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So you think you know a lot about 9-Eleven?

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All right, pop quiz, hotshot.

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Number one, when were the Pentagon's

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missing trillions announced to the public?

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Number two, did 9-Eleven end

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the missing trillions investigation?

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And number three, just how many trillions

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went missing anyway?

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If you answered September 10th, yes, and 2.3,

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then guess what?

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You're wrong.

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But don't worry, a lot of people get this wrong.

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So today, let's take a deep dive

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into one of the most enduring mysteries

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of the 9-Eleven Falls flag event,

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the Pentagon's missing trillions.

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You're listening to The Corbett Report.

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CorbettReport.com.

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Welcome back, friends.

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Welcome back to another edition of The Corbett Report.

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I'm James Corbett of CorbettReport.com,

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coming to you, as always,

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from the sunny climbs of Western Japan

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here in September of 2026

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with episode 507 of The Corbett Report podcast,

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the incredible true story

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of the Pentagon's missing trillions.

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Now, obviously, the question of the missing trillions

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from the Pentagon's coffers

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is an incredibly important subject.

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And that's even just one particular aspect

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of the much wider and vastly underreported story

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of the 9-Eleven Money Trail.

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But what exactly is the relation

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between the missing trillions

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and 9-Eleven?

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And it has come to my attention

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that many people do not quite understand

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the relation between these subjects.

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And in fact, even some people

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in the Corbett Report audience

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who would be positioned to know better

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not only don't understand,

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but have actively been misrepresenting

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my reporting on this subject

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that I've been doing for,

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well, the better part of two decades now.

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So let's set that record straight today, shall we?

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And I think we have to start this exploration today

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by starting with what I think

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is probably the baseline,

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at least for anyone who was around

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in the 9-Eleven Truth Movement in the,

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back in the aughts.

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They probably know this story

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from a CBS News report

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that first aired in 2002,

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but made the rounds on the early web

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back in the 2000s.

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Panagon, the day before 9-1-1,

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Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld

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declared war, not on foreign terrorists.

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The adversary is closer to home.

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It's the Pentagon bureaucracy.

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He said money wasted by the military

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poses a serious threat.

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In fact, it could be said

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that it's a matter of life and death.

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Rumsfeld promised change,

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but the next day, the world changed.

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And in the rush to fund the war on terrorism,

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the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.

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My O3 budget

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calls for more than

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$48 billion in new defense spending.

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More money for the Pentagon

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when its own auditors admit

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the military cannot account

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for 25% of what it already spends.

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According to some estimates,

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we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.

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$2.3 trillion with a T.

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That's $8,000 for every man,

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woman and child in America.

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As I say, anyone who was around

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in the 9-Eleven Truth Movement

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say 20 years ago

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would doubtless have seen that report directly

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or at least would have heard people

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talking about that report,

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including corporate report listeners.

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You will note that my earliest exploration

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of the 9-Eleven Money Trail

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back in episode 67 of this podcast

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did cite that report specifically.

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And if you base your understanding

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of the missing trillion story

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solely on that three-minute TV soundbite report,

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you're not going to have a proper overview

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of the subject, obviously.

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And I think even Vince Gonzalez

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would not have said that that was supposed

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to be a total view of the missing trillions subject.

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But unfortunately, it has been taken as such

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by many people.

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So their understanding of the missing trillions

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has been formed from that,

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and thus they believe that there was

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$2.3 trillion that was found missing

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and announced on September 10th

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and then 9-Eleven happened

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and it was never talked about again.

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But basically every aspect

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of that truncated narrative

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is wrong, something that you would know

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if you had continued following my reporting

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on this subject over the years.

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But in case you didn't,

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well, let's fill in those blanks today.

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And we're going to start with 9-Eleven Trillions,

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Follow the Money, my 2015 documentary,

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which still, to this day, 11 years later,

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still stands as one of the very, very few

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feature-length, full-in-depth explorations

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of the incredibly essentially important topic

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of the 9-Eleven Money Trail.

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And I will allow you to speculate as to why

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no one talks about the 9-Eleven Money Trail anymore

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or really ever did.

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But anyway, I did.

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It's called 9-Eleven Trillions, Follow the Money.

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It is a full feature-length documentary film

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exploring various aspects of the 9-Eleven Money Trail,

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including specifically the question

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of the missing trillions.

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So if you have watched that documentary

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from 11 years ago,

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you will know that the unaccounted four trillions

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that Rumsfeld was talking about

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in that September 10th, 2001 press conference

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was not discovered on September 9th.

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No, this was an issue that had been known about

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and reported on since at least 1999.

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And it was, in fact, one of the issues

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that was brought up to Donald Rumsfeld,

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specifically in his confirmation hearings

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in January of 2001,

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as he was being confirmed for Secretary of Defense

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of the George W. Bush administration

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and subsequently in House Appropriations Committee hearings.

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The topic today is an adversary

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that poses a threat,

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serious threat to security of the United States of America.

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This adversary is one of the world's last bastions

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of central planning,

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governed by dictating five-year plans

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of a single capital

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that attempts to impose its command

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across time zones, continents, oceans, and beyond.

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With brutal consistency, it stifles free thought

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and crushes new ideas.

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It disrupts the defense of the United States

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and places the lives of men and women in uniform at risk.

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On September 10th, 2001,

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Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declared a new war,

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not a war on a shadowy terrorist organization in Afghanistan

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or even a war on terror itself,

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but a war on the Pentagon.

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The adversary is closer to home.

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It's the Pentagon bureaucracy.

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Perhaps it is no surprise that Rumsfeld felt compelled

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to declare a war on the Pentagon's bureaucracy.

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The issue of the Pentagon's $2.3 trillion accounting nightmare

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had been dogging him since his confirmation hearings

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in January of 2001.

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Although Rumsfeld was interested

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in pushing forward a modernization of the military

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that was projected to cost an additional $50 billion in funding,

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that agenda was politically impossible

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in the face of the Department of Defense's

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monumental budget problem.

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How can we seriously consider

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a $50 billion increase in the defense budget

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when DOD's own auditors

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when DOD's own auditors

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say the Department cannot account for $2.3 trillion

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in transactions in one year alone?

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Now, my question to you is, Mr. Secretary,

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what do you plan to do about this?

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Decline the nomination.

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Senator, I have heard...

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I don't want to see you do that.

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Go stand adjourned in that.

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Senator, I have heard some of that

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and read some of that

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that the Department is not capable of auditing its books.

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It is...

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I was going to say terrifying.

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Terrifying only begins to describe the problem.

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The Department of Defense's own Inspector General report

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for fiscal year 1999 noted that the Defense Finance

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and Accounting Service had processed $7.6 trillion

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of department-level accounting entries in that year.

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Of that amount, only $3.5 trillion

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could be properly accounted for.

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$2.3 trillion in transactions were fudged

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to make entries balance,

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run through without proper documentation,

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or made up entirely.

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The Inspector General's office did not even examine

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the other $1.8 trillion in transactions

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because they did not have adequate time

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or staff to review them.

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In 2002, one DFAS accountant blew the whistle on the problem

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and the cover-up that was underway to stop investigators

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from finding out where the money went.

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According to some estimates,

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we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.

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$2.3 trillion with a T.

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That's $8,000 for every man, woman, and child in America

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to understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions

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consider the case of one military accountant

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who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.

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We know it's gone,

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but we don't know what they spent it on.

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Jim Minnery, a former Marine turned whistleblower,

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is risking his job by speaking out for the first time

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about the millions he noticed were missing

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from one defense agency's balance sheets.

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Minnery tried to follow the money trail,

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even crisscrossing the country looking for records.

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The director looked at me and he says,

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why do you care about this stuff?

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I took me aback, you know.

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My supervisor asked me why I care about doing a good job.

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He was reassigned and says officials then covered up

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the problem by just writing it off.

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As controller of the Pentagon from 2001 to 2004,

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Dov Zakheim was the man tasked with solving this problem.

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There are all kinds of longstanding rules and regulations

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about what you can do and what you can't do.

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I know Dr. Zakheim's been trying to hire CPAs

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because the financial systems of the department

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are so snarled up that we can't account

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for some $2.6 trillion in transactions that exist,

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if that's believable.

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And yet we're told that we can't hire CPAs

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to help untangle it in many respects.

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Mr. Secretary, the first time and the last time

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that Dov Zakheim and I broke bread together,

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he told me he'd have a handle on that $2.6 trillion by now,

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but we'll discuss that a little.

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If you've got a handle, it's just a little hot.

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Oh, $2.6 trillion, whatever.

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He's got a handle on it.

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It's just a little hot.

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Yeah, interesting.

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So I guess the question would be, who's Dov Zakheim?

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And as I go on to report in that aforementioned 2015

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documentary on $9.11 trillion, Dov Zakheim

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was the head of something called SPC International,

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which was a subsidiary of the System Planning Corporation,

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which was a defense contractor,

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which was providing air warfare, cybersecurity,

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and advanced military electronics

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to the Department of Defense and DARPA.

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And specifically, SPC's radar physics laboratory

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had developed a remote control system for airborne vehicles

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that they were marketing to the Pentagon prior to 9-11.

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Nothing to see here, folks.

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Don't look into the money trail at all.

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Nothing interesting.

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Of course, Dov Zakheim was also a signatory

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to the Rebuilding America's Defenses PNAC document

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and to PNAC in general.

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And as people know, the project for a New American Century

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was calling for a new Pearl Harbor

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to rebuild America's defenses

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as an excuse for rebuilding America's defenses.

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And Rumsfeld himself, as I again go on to demonstrate

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in that documentary, was talking about the Pearl Harbor,

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specifically in his confirmation hearings

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in January of 2001, stressing Pearl Harbor,

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handing out copies of this book

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that was then popular about Pearl Harbor

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right before the Pearl Harbor movie came out.

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And then America got its new Pearl Harbor.

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Wow, what an amazing kawinky dink.

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As I also go on to explain, yes, of course,

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as you can see there from that documentary,

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no, the Missing Trillions were not discovered

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on September 10th.

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They were not announced to the public

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for the first time on September 10th.

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But as I go on to explain,

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the events of 9-11 were used at least in part

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to continue the ongoing cover-up and obfuscation

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of those Missing Trillions.

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The attack on the Pentagon

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struck Wedge 1 on the west side of the building.

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An office of the U.S. Army called

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Resource Services Washington

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had just moved back into Wedge 1

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after renovations had taken place there.

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The office was staffed with 45 accountants,

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bookkeepers, and budget analysts.

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34 of them were killed in the attack.

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A 2002 follow-up report from the DOD

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and Spectre General on the Missing Trillions

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noted that a further $1.1 trillion

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in made-up accounting entries

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were processed by the Pentagon in fiscal year 2000,

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but they did not even attempt to quantify

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the missing funds for 2001.

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The Secretary of the Army, Thomas White,

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later explained they were unable to produce

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a financial report for 2001 at all,

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due to the loss of financial management personnel

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sustained during the September 11th terrorist attack.

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Before becoming Secretary of the Army,

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Thomas White was a senior executive at Enron.

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Enron was one of the largest energy companies in the world,

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posting a $111 billion profit in 2000

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before being exposed as an elaborate corporate

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accounting fraud in 2001.

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The SEC, which investigated the Enron scandal,

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occupied the 11th to 13th floors

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in World Trade Center Building 7,

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and their offices were destroyed on 9-11,

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destroying 3,000 to 4,000 documents

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on active investigations in the process.

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All right, as you can see there,

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yes, accountants and bookkeepers and budget analysts

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of the US Army were among those killed

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at the Pentagon on 9-11.

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That is a documented fact,

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and some of those people were working on

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at least the US Army's share of the missing trillions.

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But that does not mean that those were the only people

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who were working on the subject

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of the missing trillions, obviously,

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but they were at least some of the people

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who were working on that subject.

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And of course, this also ties into the Enron cover-up

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and WTC7, et cetera.

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Again, the question of the 9-11 money trail

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extremely important and almost completely neglected

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by people claiming to be 9-11 researchers.

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So I hope that that will be corrected in the future.

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But if you were kind of vaguely paying attention

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to this subject

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and you stopped paying attention at that point,

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then I guess that would be the end of the story, right?

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2.3 trillion 9-11 covered up.

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Oh, well, moving on, end of story, right?

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Wrong. No, of course, this was not the end of the story.

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It has continued for many years.

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So for example, the next major update to the story

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occurred in 2013 when it was casually admitted

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that that 2.3 trillion missing dollars

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had ballooned to 8.5 trillion missing dollars.

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The latest scandal to hit Washington

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comes from a report revealing

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that Pentagon misplaced 8.5 trillion dollars.

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Military leaders have also been found

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ordering subordinates to doctor books

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to hide the missing money.

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This is the conclusion of a special report by Reuters.

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One former Pentagon employee, Linda Woodford,

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said she spent 15 years there falsifying financial records.

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Woodford had a job checking Navy

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counting records against figures

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supplied by the Treasury Department.

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She said money was missing from the report every month.

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2.3 trillion, that's chump change.

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No, by 2013 it was 8.5 trillion.

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But actually, 8.5 trillion is chump change

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compared to the next update.

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That's right, by 2018 the number had ballooned to 21 trillion dollars.

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And we get that from an update that was done to that number

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after the numbers were crunched by Solari, Solari.com,

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specifically a joint investigation between Dr. Mark Skidmore

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of Michigan State University and Catherine Austin-Fitz of Solari.com

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at missingmoney.solari.com found that by 2018

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they were able to crunch the numbers and find 21 trillion dollars.

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Not missing from the Pentagon's coffers,

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but that were unaccounted for and unaccountable

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in the Pentagon's budgets.

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So back in 2018, upon the release of that new investigation,

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I had the chance to interview Dr. Mark Skidmore

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about that report and its findings.

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So you have arrived at this number 21 trillion dollars,

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which is the sort of the headline number

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at missingmoney.solari.com.

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And so this is gathered from a number of different reports

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that have been issued by the OIG over the years.

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And these are numbers that are gathered

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from these different reports and then added together.

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Is there a possibility that these numbers are cumulative

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or that some numbers that are reported later

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include some of the numbers that reported earlier?

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Or are these are completely separate for specific fiscal years?

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Well, for example, the most recent report came out

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for the Army, 2015, 6.5 trillion.

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And there'll be references in the report.

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Well, we had to make these adjustments

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to account for some prior years.

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But there were several years for which there were no reports

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and you go back a few years.

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And there was another report for so many hundreds of billions

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or a trillion here, a trillion there.

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And so it's not clear, right?

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It doesn't make sense to me that you would issue a report

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for let's say 2007 and then somehow in 2015,

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there would be a re-accumulation.

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I don't think that's what's going on, although it's unclear.

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As so many other things in this story are unclear.

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All right.

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So let's talk about your attempts to try to clarify this.

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This seems like if the Office of Inspector General

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is issuing these reports, then there is some public interface

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with this data in some way, at least through the OIG.

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So they would be receptive to sharing this data

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in some form with researchers like yourself?

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Well, initially, I had been interacting with somebody

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at the Office of the Inspector General.

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At one point, I had a phone call with two or three people

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and I just was trying to get a handle

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on some specific questions in the report.

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But the people that I talked with couldn't provide answers to those.

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And at some point, I was referred to a communications person

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at the OIG who, of course, didn't know anything specific

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with regard to these reports.

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And then at one point, all of the URLs were disabled for the OIG.

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And then at some point, I had done an interview

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on Michigan Radio regarding this question.

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Actually, I've now done a couple of interviews,

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which I think are really useful.

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But they just stopped responding.

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At one point, they responded to the producer of Michigan Radio

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and said, yeah, we'd be happy to provide more information.

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And I'll give you three examples.

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Because you could read these reports and you could ask

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a number of different questions for different years.

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So I just picked the latest one, the largest one, 6.5 trillion.

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And I said, here are some examples that I don't see

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how you could possibly get to.

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And one of them was what looked to be like an $800 billion

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transfer from Treasury.

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And I'm thinking, well, $122 billion.

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I know how Treasury relates to the different agencies

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within government, whether it's a state government

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or a national government.

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In a given year, the Treasury would transfer funds

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over to the Army in the amount that was authorized

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by the governing body, which would be $122 billion.

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Why would you need to have a transaction of $800 billion

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to make an adjustment?

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And they wouldn't provide any kind of specific answer

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to that question.

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Dave Lindorf, the author of this recent report

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by the nation, actually went to Treasury

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and said, what's going on?

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And Treasury just didn't respond.

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So that's one example.

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So we don't have an answer.

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Another one was there's a $900 billion

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adjustment for accounts payable.

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And so one of my questions is, well,

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how could you get accounts payable of $900 billion

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in transactions that we don't know about?

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What were those for?

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And again, no response.

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And some people have said, well, it can be internal from one

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part of the Army to another.

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And so these adjustments.

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But why would they be unsupported?

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And I'll give you another example regarding that

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in just a moment that Norquist provided.

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And here's the one that I sort of narrowed down.

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At one point I said, forget about my other questions.

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Here's a question I think you could respond to easily

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in a day's time.

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In the report, there were 170 adjustments

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tallied to $2.1 trillion.

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So that's a huge number, right?

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A trillion is $1,000 billion.

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$2.1 trillion is bigger than the GDP of India.

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And it's embodied in just 170 transactions.

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What in the world could that be for?

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Will you please just provide an addendum on your website

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or send me a spreadsheet so that we can all see

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what those adjustments were for?

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And they just stopped responding to any inquiry.

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And so I've been trying to pull on that strain

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because I recognize that if you go back all these years

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for different parts of the DoD or HUD, that no one person

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is going to provide an answer that would satisfy

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what happened to $21 trillion in transactions

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that are unsupported.

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But you could answer that question.

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And I haven't gotten an answer.

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So that's the kind of interaction I've had

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with the Office of the Inspector General.

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I've talked with the Office of Management at Budgeman.

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I've talked with the GAO.

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And so, but nobody seems to have any clarity on this.

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I've tried to reach out to lawmakers

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and I get very little interest or response.

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So that's the kind of thing that has happened

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along the way that I just, I can't make sense of.

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And then there was a hearing, a C-SPAN hearing

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with David Norquist who's the Comptroller of the DoD.

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And so this was on, I think, something called Metabunk

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and Norquist was explaining, well, with the $6.5 trillion,

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there was a lawmaker asking, how could that possibly be?

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This is just crazy.

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And Norquist says, well, you have the general fund ledger

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and then you have the property book ledger

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and these systems don't talk to each other.

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And so when you have something happen on the property book,

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you've got to somehow reflect that in the general fund book.

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And so let's say you have a base closure and it says,

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well, that could be in the hundreds of billions

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that you'd write down on your property book

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and you have to reflect it over here.

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And that's the reason that we have 6.5.

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It could be hundreds of billions.

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And so I thought, well, I read the report.

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So I looked at the report.

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And indeed there are about $160 billion

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in transfers related to property,

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transactions related to property.

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So that's a huge number just for a change in the property book.

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So it doesn't say what those were for.

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But even more importantly, that's only, you know,

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what, 2% or 3% of $6.5 trillion.

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There's a whole set of transactions

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that are unsupported that Norquist just completely ignores

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and nobody asks any more questions.

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And that's it.

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And that's the explanation.

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Right. Clearly inadequate.

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And, you know, is he being deceptive?

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You know, did he lie?

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And if he were in the court of law, would he have lied?

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Well, he didn't say something that was untrue.

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It was just totally incomplete.

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All right.

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That's just a taste of my 2018 conversation

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with Dr. Mark Skidmore about the concept

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of the missing $21 trillion

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and the investigation that was ongoing at that time

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at missingmoney.solari.com.

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So there's more information there to be had

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if you are interested.

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But wait, it gets even worse.

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Because shortly after that missing money investigation

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started to uncover the $21 trillion number

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and shortly after my conversation with Dr. Mark Skidmore,

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a little-known advisory board

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issued a new federal accounting standard

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that went noticed by almost no one in the world

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that made the issue of the $21 trillion

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look itself like chump change

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because the new number is infinity or zero

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or somewhere in between

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and you're not allowed to know.

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You can't make this stuff up.

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So this all revolves around something

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called FASAB statement 56 or FASAB 56,

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which again, almost no one in the world

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was paying attention to, except for

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Katherine Austin-Fetz and Solari.com, who

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as presumably as a result of all of these investigators

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and researchers poking their nose

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into the missing trillion's issue

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provoked this new federal accounting standard.

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So if you want to know more about that,

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obviously there is more information at Solari.com.

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I'll point you to a good overview of the topic

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called FASAB statement 56,

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Understanding Government Financial Accounting Loopholes

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from the Solari reports

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substack from January of 2025,

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in which it notes that this hitherto obscure advisory board

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that was set up in response to the CFO,

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the Chief Financial Officer Act,

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called the Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board

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had released in 2018 a statement

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of Federal Financial Accounting Standards 56,

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which took government accounting practices

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from laxly enforced reporting standards

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to a new benchmark,

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entirely expressed in a new benchmark entirely,

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expressly approved obfuscation of reporting,

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and in some cases outright concealing financials.

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Yes, the importance of this for the question

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of missing trillions or quadrillions

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or quintillions or whatever of missing phony funny money

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from the federal budget is put into crystal clear focus

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by this particular and almost entirely obscure

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Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board

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and their statement 56.

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So hopefully, again, if you are a dedicated corpiteer,

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you will already know about this

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because you'll know that I've talked to

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Catherine Austin Fitz about this a couple of times.

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Firstly, in September of 2019,

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where we talked about this FASAB 56

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and how it relates to the concept of the missing 21,

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question mark trillion dollars.

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Catherine Austin Fitz, let's start informing people

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about FASAB 56 and the completion question mark

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of the financial coup d'etat

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that's been going on for at least the past couple of decades.

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Right, absolutely.

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There's now 21 trillion and undocumented adjustments

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that we know about.

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You discussed those with Dr. Skidmore.

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And while everyone was paying attention to,

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or I shouldn't say everyone,

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many people were paying attention to Supreme Court Justice

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as then nominee, Kavanaugh, sex life,

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what was quietly working its way through both the White House

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and through the Congress

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was the Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board.

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Now that's the federal one.

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And it was a policy, James, that would allow

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both essentially the White House and the government

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to take sections of 24 agencies

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plus another 150 federal agencies secret.

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So now the government is free to have secret books

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by a process that we're not allowed to know

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and approved by people we're not allowed to know.

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And we're not allowed to know that they didn't.

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So when you look at the federal government books,

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they're totally meaningless.

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And the theory is that an informal policy board

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can promulgate a policy

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approved at the sort of administrative level

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that completely overrides all the financial management laws

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and the US Constitution requirements

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on financial disclosure.

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So what I did at the end of the year,

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as I said, it's time to take everything,

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all of the documentation on 30 years of shenanigans

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on the federal credit, put it in a hard copy

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and mail it to investors

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and concerned citizens all around the world.

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Because this is an issue, what they did, James,

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you know, when you describe the policy,

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it sounds very obscure.

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What they did was they basically took the majority

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of the US securities market dark.

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Right. Now, let's flesh that out for people

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who don't understand the significance of that.

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Of course, the US securities market is

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the underpinning, the backbone of the entire

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global financial architecture,

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as it existed in the post-World War II era

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and the idea of taking that dark.

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What does that mean?

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Put handles on that so people can grasp it.

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It's the underpinning, because remember,

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we've grown the emerging market bond

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and stock markets significantly since 1990.

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They've really grown tremendously,

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but it's still the 800-pound gorilla in the room.

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What you've got is US Treasury securities

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and anything related to US Treasury securities

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are dependent on the federal credit.

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Now, does not have appropriate disclosure behind it.

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And then all the private stocks,

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all the private companies who are dependent

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on federal credit for their either contracts

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or a variety of different subsidy programs.

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So when I say the majority of the US securities market,

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I mean all the private companies

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who are very dependent on the federal credit

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both directly and indirectly,

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as well as Treasury bonds and all the related bonds

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like Freddie, Fanny's and the mortgage securities.

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So you're talking about a very significant portion.

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I should also mention municipal bonds,

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which are heavily dependent on money

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coming out of the Treasury.

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If I go to any county,

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and America's just divided into 3,100 counties,

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there is usually 50% or more of the revenues

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in that county directly or indirectly

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come from the federal credit.

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So we have centralized an enormous amount

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of the US economy and securities market

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running through the federal credit.

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And if you take that mechanism dark,

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it means everything in that process goes dark.

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So for example, we have 25 trillion dollars

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in US pension funds.

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The US pension funds are the largest investors

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in US Treasuries.

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Now let me just walk you mechanically how this works.

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I put a dollar into my pension fund.

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That's real savings.

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My pension fund turns around and buys

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a US Treasury with that dollar.

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The dollar goes into Treasury.

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If you look at the 21 trillion missing

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from the federal government,

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let's just postulate that that dollar leaves

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by some unknown mechanism out the back door.

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What do I, the pension fund holder, have?

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I've got a Treasury security

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that I'm liable for as a taxpayer.

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So I've just converted a dollar of an asset

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into a dollar of liability.

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Now, you can say to me,

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I can't prove that that's happening.

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If you look at the refusal of the federal government

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to comply with the federal financial statement laws

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since they were promulgated in the mid-90s,

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I don't know that it's not disappearing out the back door.

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We have no reliable financial statements.

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And when a group of people, Dr. Skidmore,

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myself pressured for reliable financial statements,

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what we got was FASB 56 and a government promulgation

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of an administrative policy that says

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we can keep all of our books secret.

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Now, what that means is

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we're required to pay taxes into a mechanism

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and they're not required to tell us what they did with our money.

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I mean, that's fascism.

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That is not a democracy.

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That's fascism.

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So what we're watching is the conversion

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of the governance model of the United States of America

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into a straight fascism system.

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Because in fact, if you look at where the money's going,

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those governmental operations increasingly

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are not run by government employees.

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They're run by private corporations.

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So we're basically forced by law

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to pay an enormous amount of taxes into this system.

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And our pension funds and retirement funds

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are buying an enormous amount of these securities.

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The money's going into the system.

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It's going into the hand of private corporations.

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The assets increasingly

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are going into the balance sheets of private corporation.

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And there's no reporting back.

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It's a secret.

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It's a black box.

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Once again, that is Catherine Austin-Fitz of Solari.com

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and that is just a taste of our conversation

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from September of 2019

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where she explains the financial coup d'etat.

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So I hope that you will follow the link

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from the hyperlinked transcript

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of today's episode at CorbettReport.com

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slash MissingTrillions

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to find that full conversation

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and also to find the follow-up conversation,

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which I will mention now in November of 2019,

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I recorded a conversation with Catherine Austin-Fitz

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on the topic of where the Missing Trillions are going,

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which seems a very good question

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to be asking in all of this.

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So I hope that at the very least today

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I have provided a little bit more context

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and detail to the Missing Trillions story.

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It is a big story

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and I recognize that financials

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and budgets and numbers and accounting

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is not the sexiest side of conspiracy reality.

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It's not the woo woo explosive whatever

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that people love to talk about endlessly,

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but it is exceptionally important.

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I think you will grant.

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So if you are interested in this subject,

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once again, the complete hyperlinked transcript,

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everything that I've talked about,

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all of the interviews, everything I've shown today

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will be at CorbettReport.com slash MissingTrillions.

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But if you are interested in

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the aforementioned 9-11 Trillions documentary,

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of course that is available

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at CorbettReport.com slash 9-11 Trillions.

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The complete hyperlinked transcript,

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whole documentary, audio, video formats,

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as usual, is all up there for free.

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Or you can purchase the DVD version

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at NewWorldNextWeek.com

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to help make independent reporting like this possible.

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And I hope other people who have had their whistle wetted

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by today's exploration will take up the mantle

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and start looking at this incredibly important

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but oddly neglected aspect of the 9-11 mystery,

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The Missing Trillions.

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And on that note, we're going to leave

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today's exploration here for today.

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I thank you for investing your mind time

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in today's exploration.

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We're going to leave today with the interesting

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parting words of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld

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in the infamous September 10th, 2001 press conference

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in which he announced his war on bureaucracy

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the day before 9-11.

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But here's a part of that press conference

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that you probably haven't seen

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unless you were a Corbett Report here.

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Here it is again.

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Some might ask how in the world could the Secretary of Defense

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attack the Pentagon in front of its people?

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To them I reply, I have no desire to attack the Pentagon.

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I want to liberate it.

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Since the day of 9-11, we've been told what happened.

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Freedom itself is under attack.

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We've been told who to blame.

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The Taliban and Al Qaeda.

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Some have been lauded.

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Terrorists in the terrorist network.

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Osama bin Laden, the leader of Al Qaeda.

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We've been told what to think.

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Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories

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concerning the attacks of September the 11th.

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But if you haven't seen 9-11 trillions or 9-11 war games,

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you don't know anything about 9-11.

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Some might ask how in the world could the Secretary of Defense

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attack the Pentagon in front of its people?

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We had four war games going on on September 11th.

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8.5 trillion dollars.

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The most extraordinary coincidences in the history of mankind.

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We've never seen so much real-world stuff happen during an exercise.

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It is, I was going to say, terrifying.

