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and welcome to the King Heroes Journey podcast. My name is Beth Martens, and I wore my leather jacket

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today in the great honor of Alex Michael coming on Conspiracy Music Guru. Super, super excited for

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this conversation. It's been a while in the coming. I'm not sure what took me so long to ask.

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And do help us share out this video. It amazes me to know and the degree to which

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my little podcast is censored and shadow banned, but it would just be great if you wanted to share

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this with any friends. And if you're not familiar with Conspiracy Music Guru, he is the world,

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he exposes the world's greatest deceptions with lyrics that inform and teach and together with

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an understanding of the power of 432 Hertz, which we're going to talk about a lot today

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in the secrets of Sulfeggio sound. His music delivers a natural vibration which has had a

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profound impact and resonance with his fans. Conscious Music is what the Conspiracy Music

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Guru is all about. Alex Michael, a multi-instrumentalist and music producer, is the mastermind

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behind Conspiracy Music Guru and is passionate about truth, as passionate about truth as he

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is about music. His music is diverse, covering musical genres from comedy country with the

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popular character and album Flat Earth Man, to instrumental healing music with his album's

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true Sulfeggio Volume 1, 2, and I believe 3 is coming. His latest album entitled Black Sheep

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utilizes rock, while the album Unplug has a more natural, softer acoustic sound to convey the

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truth-filled messages. So you can find reviews of his Sulfeggio recordings here, very extensive.

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I'm going to drop this link in the chat and it's in the notes below as well.

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And he's got a number of websites. So the one that you're seeing on the screen,

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healingfrequencies.net is more obviously related to the healing frequencies. And here is another

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one of his regular websites, or not regular websites, but Conspiracy Music Guru websites.

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And without further ado, I will let you know that I am bringing Alex on right now.

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Hello and welcome, Alex.

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Thanks for having me on. I'm glad our paths finally crossed. As you can see, I'm also dressed

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like a rock star tonight with my leather jacket. And I want to say, yeah, what took you so long,

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Beth? Come on. I don't know. I don't know. I think I reached out to you once and I

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wasn't successful. And I thought, oh, it means he's too big or I'm not big enough for him

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yet. No, nothing to do with that. It's to do with my own confidence, really. I get asked a lot and

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I usually go, oh, do you know what? If they really want me on, then they'll ask me again. And I will

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usually wait for someone to ask like two or three times. Because as I said before we came on,

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I'm not this confident talking head. I like to use music to communicate through, rather than,

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because I feel like every time I have a conversation like this or an interview,

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it's like a spotlight. It's shining on me. I must say something intelligent. But really,

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at the end of the day, I'm just a working class bloke from Essex who picked up a guitar,

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also found some truth and decided to put those truths into music. What I didn't realise is that

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people, that that would resonate with people and people would want to then talk to the man

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behind the music. I wasn't quite prepared for that. But here I've said absolutely nothing

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to do with what you are. I've seen you, we're friends on Facebook and I've seen you do the

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rounds and you've had discussions with many of my good friends, Dawn Lester, Steve Faulkner,

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Mike Wilkerson, all good friends of mine. So I was thinking, I wonder how long it's going to be

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before we cross paths. So anyway, here we are. But it's got nothing to do with it. Hey, it's me,

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not you. That's fun. And I actually do have a policy when somebody doesn't respond once,

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I'll always make a second and sometimes a third approach. And then by then I'm going,

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okay, I'll get the message here. Yeah, it's probably good to send. I do remember the

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first message you sent and maybe I was just like too busy at the time. You know, I'm just a little

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bit. So yeah, it's not you, it's me. But yeah, I'm glad you reached out a second time because

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otherwise this wouldn't have happened. And do you know what, this interview I've been,

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if you want to call it an interview, I've actually been really looking forward to

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having it actually a little bit nervous as well. So you know, I resonate with you. Let's put it that

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way. Oh, that's so nice. Yeah. And I find you incredibly coherent. And that's at the level

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of sound first before I actually had more of an idea of what was going on in your life,

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in your mind and that kind of thing. So it's beautiful. I've always tuned in with voices

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from my earliest days of listening to music to me. I wouldn't hear lyrics. I didn't even

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know what a guitar sound was. I didn't understand that there was this whole arrangement of music

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going on. All I paid attention to was the voice. And so that was a big discovery. I'm like, oh,

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that's a guitar. All right, I play that. I'm completely the other way around. I'm terrible

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with lyrics. I never listen to lyrics and lyrics are just this thing that happens to be on top of

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the music. I'm listening to all the composition, all the guitar, I'm thinking what instrument,

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what chords are being played. And that's the thing that fascinates me is all the music that's

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going on. The lyrics kind of get in the way. And with the solfeggio stuff. That's why the

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solfeggio stuff has kind of been, quote, unquote, my most successful albums because there's no

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lyrics to get in the way. It knows no language barrier. So someone in China can enjoy those

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albums. So for me, the music came first with that. And I'm terrible at remembering

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lyrics of songs. I'm one of those people that get all the lyrics wrong. Because I'm never

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concentrating on the lyrics. It's all about the music first. So I guess we look at music in

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totally different ways. Well, interestingly, I never heard the lyrics either, only the tone

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of the voice. So just like you, I didn't learn the words. I faked my way through them so I

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could sing. But I never cared about the words. And then, lo and behold, so many of the lyrics

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are paired up. Like beautiful, amazing music is paired up with lyrics that actually really

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degrade consciousness. So I was strategically blocking it.

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Yeah. And I suppose most of us do. They do get in the way, some of the lyrics, I think.

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But yeah, so the instrumental stuff, I think, why isn't there more of that around? Because

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my Sulfedio stuff has had profound effects on a lot of people. You know, I put the albums out there

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just as an experiment. Because I learned about these Sulfedio healing frequencies from a guy by

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the name of Jamie Buter of B-U-T, B-U-T-U-R-F-B-U-R-F. And this is an experiment. I put those

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frequencies that he was talking about. The ancient Sulfedio frequency, and I infused them

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and embedded them into some instrumental tracks and just put them out there as an experiment.

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And the feedback that I got, which I never asked for, I didn't say please do,

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I just started getting these messages with people having profound healing effects and spiritual

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effects and people being cured of arthritis and sleep apnea and sleep paralysis and insomnia

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and children being calm and pets being calm. And it's like, there's something about this kind

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of instrumental music. It's just like, it's almost like the lyrics and the words get in the

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way. Why can't more music be like this? It's like, I'm trying to do the polar opposite

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of what the controllers of this world want musically. Because if you listen to the music

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that's out there, it's absolutely awful rap music. People like Cardi B singing about a vagina

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and rap music and gun culture and drugs and hose and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Let alone all the stuff that was coming out of the 60s and all that culture creation and

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social engineering. And it's like, that's not really music. And it's been so bastardized

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from what I now understand. It's been just everything from core progression to lyrical

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content to the frequencies that are put into it to the back masking and everything. It's just like,

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when you zoom out and see music as the whole, and you just see it for what it is, it's so

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lower minded. It's not the higher minded classical music that we had 100 years ago,

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where music would take these, you know, peaks and troughs and taking on a musical journey.

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And they were mostly instrumental and you could really lose yourself in those musical pieces

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that went on for 20, 40 minutes. And now we have the three minute pop songs with, you know,

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the three chords, you know, the blues music, you know, selling yourself to the devil, that

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whole thing like that. All the Beatles music and all the country music, all of that. It's just

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like music has been so utterly bastardized now. And I see it now to the point where

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if I'm in the car and I turn the radio on and there's this and I have to turn it off

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because I know the agendas behind it. So I'm trying to do the polar opposite of that.

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I'm not saying that I'm doing it correctly, but doing it as far as I'm concerned in the right

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frequency instrumental with the right intent. And it seems to have a profound impact on the

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listener. So I've so I've learned. That's brilliant. Yeah, I love it. So many things

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I want to respond to there. When 2020 hit and the gauntlet was off, I'd been awake for

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since 2015, 16. And I'm just like, Okay, that's it. No more. I can't hold my tongue

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anymore. I broadcasted and I lost everything in the process, gained everything in the process too

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over time. And I just stopped listening to music entirely. I did have favorite bands and artists

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and things, you know, you just want background or I want to sing along. That's always my thing.

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I just want to sing. And I couldn't anymore. I was I couldn't put it on because I was

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Mark Devlin instrumental in this was his work instrumental in your mindset towards like

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recent music, a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I'm a I can be a skimmer. I just come and

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take a little bit here, take a little bit there. But I it was more I could finally perceive it,

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the engineering, the manipulation, the, you know, the mix, it's trauma based

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mind control, because they're, they're right there in hand or they're romancing your soul

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with the beauty. And then all this crap comes in while you're all, oh, la, la, la, la. Yeah,

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there's all the crap that you don't even know exists in there, you know, they could be, you

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know, just in the same way that I could put healing frequencies into music with the right

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intent. Well, I could the dark forces in this world can do the exact opposite, the polar

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opposite. And it seems to be what's happening, you know, with certain synth sounds and,

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you know, certain back masking and frequencies, you know, let alone the four four we

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hurts, let alone the compression that we are now subject to when you put a song on

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YouTube or iTunes or Spotify or whatever or any of these streaming platforms,

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then they compressed the shit out of the music and they you it removes 90% of the

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audio information. I had an email today actually from a friend and a fan of mine

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who wanted to do some relaxation and she knew about myself, Fegio. So she listened to

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those albums on my YouTube channel and she she'd listened to them before and had

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a profound impact and had some really nice relaxation experiences out. But she said,

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Oh, just for just the ease, I'll put it on YouTube and I put the headphones in. And

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she said it didn't have the same impact. She said, I'm sure YouTube is growing with

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the frequencies. And I said, No, they're not altering the frequencies

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of the music, but they are compressing it. And she said she then went off to

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listen to the uncompressed full quality WAV files from my website. And she had a

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completely different experience. He said only then that she did she have the

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relaxing experience that she was after. So it's very interesting that these platforms

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are compressing the music and removing 90% of the audio information. So everywhere you

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turn, even on your favorite Spotify, you know, where you can get billions and

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billions of songs with just 10 bucks a month, it's it's you listen to shit,

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you're listening to absolute crap, I'm afraid, you know, you're all the

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good audio information is removed, it's tuned to 440 hertz. And I think

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that's probably a big problem in this world. I mean, if all the music that was

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released was recorded in 432 with the right intention, and, you know, and these

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dark overlords not praying over the master in their little, you know, in their

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studios and all the dark stuff that I've looked into music could really

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change the world. But unfortunately, we're subject to this crap.

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Indeed. Yeah. And that's exactly how hard someone told me don't say our

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controllers anymore. But those guys, that's exactly how they work. They take

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a good thing and they turn it upside down. So it's done it with everything,

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haven't they? They've done it with the information, they've done it with health,

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they've done it with education, they've done it with the very air we breathe,

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the food we eat, they've done it with everything. So why not music,

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the thing that we love the most. So of course, it's going to be one of the

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things that of their go-tos that, you know, this thing could be

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spiritually transforming. Of course, they're going to attack that and it

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seems that they have and with very, they've been very successful at it, it seems.

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Yeah, indeed. That's the romance side of things. I just wanted to go back a little

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for you to a couple of points to also around classical music. And it's funny,

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when you talk about the instrumental, that's priceless for me because I like to write.

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I like to, well, when I work, I use my mind and I cannot have lyrical music.

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It's just my mind goes to the tone of that voice. And that's what I'm here

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in the way. It gets in the way. And then if there's any, you know, ideas that now do get

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in through the lyrics, I'll be thinking on those. And so yeah, the instrumental is good.

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The classical music is, I grew up on that. So that was a little bit in my blood and my

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bones and my parents would drag us to a symphony now and again. And I actually

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didn't like it, but I did learn to like it one day when I was driving along.

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And I just started playing with singing to it. You're not supposed to sing to it.

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I'm going to sing to your stuff, by the way, when I have some spare time.

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Okay, great.

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Yeah, I'm going to do that. And I love singing to the unsingable because you find

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really interesting ways to interact at a vocal level. I'm curious,

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do you like classical music, first of all? Is it something that you would put on for pleasure?

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It is now. I didn't used to, but when I realized how much music has been

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bastardized, and I realized the further back you go, the less bastardization you see with music.

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And I started to, you know, just listen to some classical music in 432 Hertz and I started

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subscribing to a lot of 432 Hertz classical channels on YouTube. Yes, the music is compressed and

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blah, blah, blah, but I just wanted to see how it resonated with me. And I was actually

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quite shocked at the intellect that lies within classical music. Now I even have a

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favorite piece. It's Rachmaninoff's second piano concerto. It goes on for 40 minutes.

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It's the most, I mean, it's astounding. It's absolutely incredible how somebody could come

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up with such intellect and high-mindedness when it comes to just core progressions and just,

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it blows my mind. You'll never see anything like that in today's, you know, pop music.

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So, and there's no literally, like you say, the lyrics get, I often wonder like,

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should music just be music? Why are we putting, why are we shouting over it?

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Why are we singing over it? Why are we getting in the way of it? Maybe music should just be

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instrumental. Maybe we should be resonating with the, with the violin and then, you know,

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some of those, you know, violin solos or piano solos can really, really move you to a point

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of tears. And you know, if you start putting lyrics over that, if someone started to sing

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over Rachmaninoff or God forbid rap, I mean, it would just take on a whole different

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meaning, wouldn't it? So I often wonder whether, you know, lyrics on top of music is a bastardization

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of music in itself. So to answer the question, yeah, I never used to be a classical music fan.

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I just thought it was just, I was weird. It just, just, but now I get it. I get why

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intelligent people listen to classical music, particularly in four, three, two hertz and

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unbassadize and uncompressed. If you're listening to, you know, Verdi, Verdi was a, was a,

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was a four, three, two hertz guy. And so if you're listening to Verdi and four, three, two hertz

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uncompressed, then, you know, then you can probably, you know, really appreciate what music can do

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for you. And I'm trying to do something similar to that. I don't think I have the ability yet

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to put together an orchestra and things like that. I don't have the, the, the budget for

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that or the space, but I could probably do it digitally, but, but I think that's where music

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needs to go. We need to go back to that uncompressed four, three, two hertz, instrumental, even longer

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pieces, like the three or four minute, five minute pieces are just like, and it's like an insult

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on intelligence, really. It's, it's, it's reducing attention span, I think. I think that's

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why the three minute pop song was invented. And I think that's why classical music can go

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on for 20 minutes, 40 minutes, because it requires your attention. And it's been bastardized on so

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many levels, but yeah, I'm slowly starting to appreciate classical music more because I know

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that's for the, the more higher minded, but we've been, we've been beaten down with this,

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with this four, 43 minute pop song and catchy chorus for so many years. It's almost hard

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to break out of that programming. Indeed. Yeah. I heard you talk a little bit about

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the attention span. That's, there's some good, good people and questions coming up in the chat

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that I'll turn to next, but yeah, that attention span of a knit. I actually refuse to spend

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time on TikTok because it's exactly that. It's, you know, it's the, and it's so

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emptying when you go and you scroll through and, and, you know, you can end up with

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a huge TikTok following, but nobody engages with you because they're just doing this.

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Right. So it's, it's not, I don't know that. Yeah. That's a, a waste of time.

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TikTok is not a place for ruckmunning off, is it?

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Not so much. Not so much. I'm going to go look up that concerto actually.

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If you forget, I'll send it to you. It's outstanding. It's just like, it's,

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it's what music should be. Yeah. Yeah. I remember the name well. So I'm,

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I'm sure I'm going to recognize that. So heavy metal musicians are often classically

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trained. Did you ever get into that genre at all? You obviously have the rock sound

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as part of your, your power. Before I was more awake to music. Yeah. I love,

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I mean, anyone that picks up a guitar, the first thing they want to do is play a power

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chord. They want to plug it into a distortion pedal and play. Oh, by the way,

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compliments on your son's playing in the intro. That was outstanding. Reminds me a lot of Hendrix

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and Steve Vibe. Brilliant playing, by the way. Thank you. Yeah. Very good. He's only young,

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isn't he? He's going to be 19 in a few days. Yeah. I already hate him. I see so many young

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players coming through that are just absolutely brilliant. There's a guy called Mateo Mancuso.

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He's playing in Spain. I hope to go and see him. He's not even 30. He's probably the best

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guitar player in the world. I'm like, it makes me want to throw all my guitars

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into the bin. Sorry. What was the question? I complete you. Oh, it was just about heavy metal.

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And I was asking for my son's sake because he listens. He doesn't, he's not a headbanger. He

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hates headbangers. He doesn't want to be with those people. He's listening for tech, technical,

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the, you know, the technician side of things. And I've been on some road trips where he

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just keeps sampling me through his heavy metal. And it's pretty intense, but

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it's, I totally, like, I'm never going to say, no, don't listen to that. And he'll warn me, like,

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hey, these lyrics are really weird, but this is what I like about it. And yeah. I think it's

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a necessary process for him. I think he has to go through that rock. I mean, if I was to

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advise him in any way, I would say, yeah, enjoy the rock, but for the love of God, tune it

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432 at least. Because then all the, when you're distorting a guitar, what the distortion is

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actually doing is giving you more overtones and more undertones. It's giving you a bigger sound.

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You want those overtones and undertones to be, how can I say, to be more mathematically spaced

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and whole number ratios in 432. You get that. So you get a better sound. And I do think you'll

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get a more of a healing sound. The rock music that we have in 440, like, take metallic, I used to

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be a massive Metallica fan, went to see them. And now I recognize that for what it is, of course.

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So I've kind of, you know, keep that at arm's length, but I did love that stuff. Now, I just

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wonder if, you know, you were to take that, those power chords and put them in 432. And I've

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done a whole rock album in 432 words. I think it, a lot of people say 440 is more aggressive.

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So if you want the aggression, then tune to 440. Well, there's a reason why so many

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teenagers that listen to rock music eight hours a day like Metallica or, you know, name your rock

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band, there's a reason why they're so aggressive. There's a reason why they're so irresponsible.

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There's a reason why they're so moody and grumpy. It's because they listen to this harsh,

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harsh rock guitars in 440. I would suggest tune it to 432. You might have a little

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experience. You might actually be able to talk to your child. You know, I think that, you know,

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it could be that profound. Right. Right. Well, luckily, Liam was never ruined by this. He never

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went dark or angry or bitter or all of those kind of the grumpy, like you said, luckily. So let's

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turn to that. Yeah. Yeah. He's very lucky because there's a lot that do. I mean, so yeah,

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I think it's a necessary, I mean, there's nothing wrong with the rock guitar. I'm not saying

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rock guitar equals bad rock guitar in the right frequency with the right intent can be incredible

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and incredibly powerful. I did a whole album, you know, just being angry and it was my therapy. I

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don't need a therapist. I need a microphone and during that whole COVID thing, I was like, why

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can't you see this? Why can't you are television watching news believers? Why? I told you so and

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it was just like, shout, shout, shout. It's incredibly therapeutic for me. And that resonated

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with a lot of people as well because I think, you know, the right intent, the right frequency.

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So yeah, there's a lot to it. There's a lot of little variables. I think you can tweak

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to make it more, you know, more, more profound on the end listener and better for your health as

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well, I think. Indeed. Indeed. All right. I'm turning to the chat a little bit. Hello,

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Aliza. Nice to see you. Glad you're here. That's a nice comment. Thank you. Yeah. How

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beautiful is that? I called you a bloke. And Mr. Spacebusters, who couldn't have a conversation

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without mentioning our good friend, Steve Faulkner in common. And he says, struggle he went through

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to get through the meltdown therapy and coming out the good side. You can hear each movement

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go from frantic to beautiful in the third stanza. Right on, Steve. What's that?

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Yeah, Steve, we're going to hook up soon. We have to. He was supposed to come in

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Christmas, but he's got some issues like me. Where has it come? But I won't say too much

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about that. But yeah, we're going to we're going to make up for it, Steve. We're definitely going

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to make up for it, mate. And I want to sing with both of you. So just so you know, that's

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on my bucket list. All right, you're going to have to come to Spain. Yes, yes, because

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you're both there. Exactly. Rachmaninoff, the second was a masterpiece. He had to go to

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psychiatrist after first one flopped and the critics after such high pressure was put on

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him. Rachmaninoff, too, was his this is he's. Wow, that's fascinating, man. Right, was a musical

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interpretation of the mental amazing. Yeah, he's Russian. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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And Miss Dawn Lester is in the chat. Thanks for being here. She asked about opera.

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Oh, that's an interesting question. Interestingly, a lot of opera singers say that they can

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sing better in four, three, two, and then they do in 440. They find 440 a bit of a strain.

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I do think opera is a little bit of a bastardization. Again, lyrics get in the way.

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I've not really studied opera as a genre. I find it quite comedic. In fact, I've often thought

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about doing a conspiracy song in opera, just just for a laugh, because I think I can do

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an opera sort of sound. You've got to just sing from the gut, right? Yeah, do it for it.

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But it's not something I've really studied or really enjoyed, to be honest with you. I don't know.

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I think, yeah, again, I think the lyrics get in. Do you like opera, Beth?

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You know, I find it melodramatic and I can't stand that. So I was being polite.

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Yeah, the dramatization of emotions is so fake and gay. I just can't stand it.

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That's not our right. That's that's not our true nature. The emotions can flow

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authentically and nicely, but that is like this. Yeah, it's a bit much. Yeah, I was being polite.

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I've never really warmed to it. Maybe I should give it a second chance with my new understanding

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of music, but I just I don't know. It's a little bit. Yeah, like you say, it's too

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it's too dramatic for me, really. I think if you looked at the underscore

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of it and looked at the musicality of it, I'm sure it's brilliant. So why put that?

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Why did I get pissed off with that shit?

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. I really wanted to play some of your music here,

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but I might get a strike for it. Turn it. Or could I?

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It depends. If you if you're doing on YouTube, you the only problem is you won't be able to

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monetize the YouTube stream. The stream will stay up, but you just won't be able to monetize

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it. I don't anyway. So you won't get a copy. Yeah, copyright. You'll get a copyright

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notification saying, by the way, the music that you used in this stream is owned by this fellow

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Alex Michael, which means you can't monetize the stream. And that's basically it's just a

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notification. You don't get a strike or anything like that. Oh, good to know. Yeah,

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there was only get a strike if you use the music. And I was like, how dare you use that

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music? I'm going to strike your channel from the eyes, but I would I'm not a prick. So

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right, right. Okay, maybe I misinterpreted because even when I use my only music on

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streams, I get warnings. I'm not sure I got an actual strike. So it might be what

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you're saying. Yeah, probably just be a notification. Just saying it has no bearing on

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your channel. But just to let you know that, you know, you can't monetize it because this

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music is copyrighted and so if the music that you're writing is copy when you say your

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own music, what do you what do you mean? I have four albums. I was going to send them

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to you so you could you could hear. Yeah, I've recorded and written a bunch of music

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and all right. So the good thing is at least YouTube knows that they are this

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copyrighted material. What it doesn't know is that you're the owner of that material.

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That's it. Exactly. Right on that. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, I played something off my

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Spotify the other day on a stream and it wasn't flagged in any way. So I don't know

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it might be good now. Something but yeah, Donna's saying not not her favorite

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genre as well when it comes to the opera. And yeah, so if we get deeper in, there's

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a ton of questions I want to ask you around it. But if we just do justice to the

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suffegio zone, what the heck is that it's when you're talking about a frequency,

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what would the difference be between now I'm coming to this pretty green. So forgive me.

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Yeah, me too. I'm no expert as I said in my fate. I'm no expert. I'm still very much

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dipping my toe into the water of all this. I mean, for me, the proofs in the pudding,

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I put the frequencies that I would were recommended to me put it in music and these

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people had seemed to have, you know, profound effects. But there's so much

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numerology and mathematics that go into all of this stuff. I try and stay away from that if I can.

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For me, it's like I just put it into music and here are the effects. But I'll try and

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answer some questions if I can. Yes, absolutely. So what is meant by suffegio? What is that

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pointing towards? Apparently they're supposed to be ancient healing frequencies.

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They derive from Gregorian chance. I mean, the word ancient even now,

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I don't even know what the word ancient means anymore. What is ancient? I mean,

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I think the timeline is so bloody skewed at the moment. So I don't even know what to call ancient.

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But apparently, these frequencies derive from Gregorian chance. People that really know when

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they're in meditation, they know the kind of frequencies that resonate with the cavity and

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they know the kind of sounds that should be like, you know, Mongolian throat singing,

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where they use overtones and undertones, they use all sorts of frequencies and

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they were able to create light with just the voice. And even, you know, Tibetan singing bowls are,

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they're not, they don't use digital tuners when they're creating these bowls. They use

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just their intuitive, intuitive. And so they're not created using, you know, a digital tuner or

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anything. So I think these ancient suffegio frequencies come from the Gregorian chance

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allegedly. But I do believe that has been bastardized now. I do believe there's a,

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there's an ancient or old suffegio set of frequencies, which the Gregorians knew,

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and, you know, the Mongolian throat singers or whatever, you know, ancient knowledge, whatever

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ancient is. But now I think that those frequencies can be so profound in terms of healing and well

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being that, of course, modern society have got hold of these suffegio frequencies and

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bastardized the hell out of them. So that's because suffegio frequencies,

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if you look into the internet, they're all over the place. And you go on YouTube,

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there's these, like five to eight hertz is one you see everywhere. It's got millions,

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or if not billions of views. And I'm very suspicious of that from the outset.

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But you'll never find 512 having millions of views, which I do believe is the actual

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frequency of the heart and actually can lead to well being and health.

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One of the frequencies I use in my true true suffegio albums.

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So, so there's this old set of suffegio healing frequencies that come from the Gregorian chance

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people that knew. Interestingly, a lot of the instruments that are dug up on archaeological

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sites and seem to be tuned to 432 hertz as well, which is interesting. So there's this old

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knowledge that 432 hertz or something around there because obviously years ago, we didn't

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have digital tuners. They were tuning to their cavity, I believe. There's this old ancient

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Sulfedio scale. And there's this new Sulfedio set of frequencies that have, you know,

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just become very, very popular. And when you start looking into who's behind and who's pushing

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these frequencies, you start seeing, you know, discrepancies and you start seeing, you know,

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that's when all the shill calling comes out, right? And so I took these, these what I

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believe to be the original based on Pythagorean tuning centered on a 34th, a 432 hertz,

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whereas the modern Sulfedio tuning is based on numerology and derived using numbered and

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scattered across different keys. So I take the original versus the modern and I take the

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original frequencies, embed them and infuse them into instrumental music, sit back and just

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watch for the results. And the results have been, the results are in.

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Amazing. Amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, you've seen some of those reviews and those

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testimonials of what happens when people actually immerse themselves in this music,

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because that's one of my bugbears, actually, that people don't listen to music anymore.

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They have it on in the background. They have it on while they're driving or while they're

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working. They don't actually take the time to listen to an unbasterdised, uncompressed

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instrumental music with Sulfedio healing frequencies, put on some good quality earphones,

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sit back, turn the lights off and immerse yourself in the music. People don't do that

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these days. They're too busy doing other things and just have it on in the background.

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They don't see it as this healing modality that could really help them if they just tune

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out and really focus and remove all of those distractions. So once you actually do that with

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the right frequency, uncompressed with the right intent, which I believe my albums are,

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then you can start seeing how powerful music can really be.

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That's beautiful. I love it. And then to take a step back on the subject,

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what's the difference between tone and notes and frequency?

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They're all the same thing. Well, the frequencies that I put into my Sulfedio,

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they're called sine wave frequencies, which is there's no overtones. There's no undertones.

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It's just a pure frequency. So it's literally nothing else, but it's four, three, two hertz

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and nothing else. But if you was to play four, three, two hertz on a piano, the middle A,

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then you'd have a bunch of overtones and a bunch of undertones, which make up the sound of the

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piano. That's what makes the sound of the piano. All these other frequencies. So what was the

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good? What was the difference between a tone? Oh, this is good for me. I'm really getting

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it now. So yeah, the difference between a frequency. So an A is a frequency,

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but when you play it on the piano, it's resonating throughout all of this.

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But yeah, because you're getting the sound of the hammer hitting the string,

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you're getting the sound of the wood, where the tone resonates through the body of the piano.

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That also creates frequencies. It's just a bunch of frequencies that create the sound of the

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piano. So when you hit a four, three, two on a middle A, you're getting so many different

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frequencies that make up the sound of the piano. Same with a guitar. You hit the A on the guitar

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and it's tuned to four, three, two. You're not getting four, three, two hertz. You're getting

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so many other different frequencies, hundreds of other frequencies that make up the sound

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of a guitar. But in my albums, I put pure unbarsadized sine wave. It's just a

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even me doing that with my voice. There's going to be overtones and that won't be a pure sine wave.

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But I use a pure sine wave generator to create those pure sine waves and put them into the

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music. And then I create the piano soundscape and guitar soundscape and everything on the chords

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and the melody around those pure frequencies. Oh, fascinating. And is it kind of like a drone

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the way that you're using it? Having a pure tone, like you say, sine wave

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that would be constant in the background and then you're playing with and around it?

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Exactly. So, okay. I'm getting it. So, yeah, if the song's in four, three, two hertz, I'll have that

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all the way through for seven minutes. And then my mission is to build a song around that.

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And there's many chords that you, in fact, pretty much every chord, if you're doing it

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right, you can build a real nice soundscape around that. But that pure sine wave

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frequency remains all the way through the song. But you don't even know it's there by the time

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some drums coming or some strings or some harmonies or a guitar, you won't even know it's there,

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but it's there. But I make sure everybody knows it's there because the intro of every song it

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starts and then the piano will come in that complements that. And then I might bring the

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music down to expose that frequency again. And then I'll bring up the music in the chorus

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and then I'll back it down so you can hear them. But it's there all the way through. But when all,

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of course, the instrumentation comes up, you barely even know it's there, but it's there throughout.

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In fact, it's not just one frequency. I'll use an octave above that and an octave below. So,

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there's actually three of those frequencies coming through that track while you're listening

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to all the instrumentation. I think, I don't know, it seems to work.

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How fun is that? I love it.

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It's like audio alchemy.

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Exactly. Yeah, because now it sounds like in nature, you're not going to find 432 because

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it's always going to be having overtones and undertones and different cavities that it's

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resonating off. Is that true?

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Well, I mean, they say 432 hertz is aligned with nature because when you start looking

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at all the frequencies that are involved above 432 and below, it starts to have a relationship,

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and I don't quite know how, but it starts to have a relationship with the golden ratio.

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What's it called? The other word for the golden ratio? Someone want to know in the chat?

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Fibonacci, thank you. It starts to be a relationship with that mathematically speaking

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and numerologically speaking. But you can end up on an endless row when you start

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using numerology. Frequency means how many times per second yet? Does the sound wave

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cross the middle zero point? A hertz is 1000 vibrations per second, so A cross is the center

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line, 432 a second. Yeah, but then when was the second even invented? I mean, the second is

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a relatively new thing in our timeline, isn't it? So measuring things per second might not

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even be the way to go. I don't think they were measuring per second, you know,

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anciently speaking. I think they were, like I say, tuning to what they felt, I think,

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and it just happens to be in our modern way of understanding things in hertz. I mean,

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even hertz was, like the guy hertz was only a few hundred years ago. So yeah, this idea of

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measuring frequencies per second is a relatively new thing. So I completely digress there. Where

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was I going? Oh, that's good. I'm going to play off that just in terms of standard measures.

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So we have a second, right? Who decided what a second was? We got it, and then you get the hour

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and the 24. And it was recently very disillusioned thinking that all measures were so standard.

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And I've got these little spoons for measuring small amounts of, you know,

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potassium chloride or whatever, maybe supplement powder I want to use. And it turns out,

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they are not standardized. Because I started comparing one, you know, a quarter teaspoon

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in this system is not a quarter teaspoon in that system. It's not a pinch in the

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tad and the dash and all this. And it's like, there's nothing standard. Yeah.

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Everywhere you go, everything's been bastardized. It's like we're children trying to learn again.

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It's brilliant in a way, you know, because I love learning all this stuff, but it's like,

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oh, you bastard, you did it to that as well. Exactly. Yeah. And then, and you obviously

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sense the difference, right? I will just admit entirely that I don't know what I'm listening to.

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I obviously enjoy the music. That's clear that it feels coherent to me. Your music allows me

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to focus. And that's different from other music that I find will, you know, just, I'll be,

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finally, I'll like turn it off and I'll get frustrated. Okay. I need my whole brain

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get away. But I don't, I don't have to do that with yours. And apologies for making it the background,

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but I know so many people fight. Again, on that testimonials page on my website,

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people say, I find it helps with my focus. It gives me clarity. I'll be, you know,

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whether you're having it on in the background, whether you're having it on the car,

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you can have while you're having a meal. It's great music to have in the background.

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Why not have that music on in the background when it's made with the right frequencies,

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with the right intent? Why would you want to have some compressed 440 shit? Why would you want that?

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So yeah, absolutely. Try and use it while you're while you're working in the background,

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but I'm just saying you could probably get more of a profound experience if you allow it in,

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if you really allow it in, remove all of those other distractions.

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Exactly. Yeah. Then with the headset and your wave files, right? That would be totally

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non compressed rather than the YouTube. I'm listening off of you.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. YouTube is just screws everything up and all of these streaming platforms,

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they're utterly ruining music, all of these streaming platforms.

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Right. Right. Yeah. And maybe that's part of the reason that it becomes lackluster as well.

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So very good. And so you said that the 512 is more around the heart and that's

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a common frequency that you're using? It is. Yeah. There's been a lot of people commenting

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on that particular track on album one, it's called Heart. On album two, it's called Another Heart.

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And for some reason, I don't know whether it's the chord structure. I've tried to make the song

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sound very kind of lovey-dovey, kind of love chords. It's just emotional chords.

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A bit like Celine Dion's My Heart will go on. There's a reason why that song resonated,

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because it's the chord structure. It has similar chords to that.

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What are the love chords? Well, the love chords. So C, G, A minor, G.

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I wish you could hear my piano here, but you can't. So I've kind of gone around the C,

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the G, the A minor to just give a little bit of, oh, now it's a minor.

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There's a reason why sad songs are in minor keys and happier songs are in major keys.

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But that, my heart song, it kind of crosses between both. And I infuse the 512 hertz in there,

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which comes from the keynote standard of 432 hertz. All the solfeggio healing frequencies,

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you have to have the keyboard or the piano. You have to have your root frequency in 432 hertz

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before any of those solfeggio magic frequencies appear. But that song has been the most played

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on Spotify. It's been the most played on iTunes and Apple Music and on YouTube.

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For some, and I've had people messaging me saying they just burst into tears.

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And I've had friends give birth to that song. And for some reason it resonates. I don't know.

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It just, there's an emotional attachment to that song, whether I think it's the frequency

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it's supposed to be. Allegedly, I mean, if you believe in the chakra system, I mean,

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the jury's out on that one for me, but it's allegedly the frequency of the heart.

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And octaves above and octaves below. So you've got the 512 being the frequency of the heart and

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the octave above being 1026 and the octave below being 256. What's interesting is you also find

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256, 512 and 1026 in the computer world, you know, you'll have a hard drive, which is 512 gigabytes

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or 1026 gigabytes or 256. So there's a very interesting correlation there. I don't know

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what that means. But yeah, so I don't believe 528 is the frequency of the heart or this DNA

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repairing thing, blah, blah, blah. But I don't know. I've experimented with 512, which according

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to Jamie Buter, if it's the frequency of the heart and all the frequencies that I use

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are supposed to align with the chakras, what you think about the chakra system, I don't know. I

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still don't know. Some people would dismiss it as New Age, woo, woo. I'm still experimenting and I

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have these frequencies and this is supposed to be for that, that's supposed to be for that.

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But I just put them in there and I just sort of mess around and find out kind of thing.

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Perfect. Exactly. That's how I've always done things is mess around. That's the child in me

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that doesn't mind just playing with things and experimenting. I love to invent wheels. That's

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amazing. Discover something that's well-discovered already. Yeah, what I'm doing is I don't know

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if anybody else has actually done. I'm not reinventing the wheel already, but I don't

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think anybody is infused. I mean, there's, of course, there's the healing frequency

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music out there and it's all very monotonous and it's unlistnerable really. It's kind of

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just droney and it's just a synth that stays on one chord. It doesn't go anywhere,

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but my music actually has an intro, a verse, has a bridge and a chorus and there's melody to it.

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So I don't think, and I don't think anybody's done that and actually infused these self-healing

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frequencies into music. I think it's quite a unique album. I wish you had more exposure

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because I've seen what it can do on a limited scale, but like you, I'm incredibly

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censored. So it's very frustrating because I know I have this thing that could really

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change the musical landscape and bring well-being and health to a lot of people

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if they really give it a chance, but nobody knows about it yet, which is really frustrating.

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Well, you're ahead of your time. Maybe. This is why my Flat Earthman album doesn't

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sell because I don't think people are quite ready for that kind of information.

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Right, and we will definitely get to that. Let me see. Someone had a great question,

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David, asking on the onset of AI, music making right now. I'm glad he brought this up because I

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have my own feelings. Is this a reverse or are we just going down the rabbit hole of more dead swing

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music? I hate it. I absolutely love it. Yeah. I mean, AI is a double-edged sword, isn't it?

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I mean, it's a hammer. A hammer can be used to hit someone or it can be used to build a

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house. I guess if you're using it for the right reasons, then AI, I've asked AI a few

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questions, particularly when it comes to 4, 3, 2 and so forth. And I'm getting mixed results. It's

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kind of like, oh, you lying bastard. So there is that to it. But when it comes to AI music,

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it's awful. I mean, of course it's in 440. And of course it can spit out a song just like that.

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And it's utterly compressed. The vocal sounds so soulless. The instrumental,

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it has an element of so and I think in five years time we'll be looking at a completely

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different landscape when it comes to AI music. I think it's going to actually kind of mimic

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so and it might be actually a little bit more impressive, a little bit more. But at the end

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of the day, it's making people lazy as well. Now everybody can be a musician, right? And I

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see people posting their AI songs going, this is a new song I just made. This is a new album I

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just made. Wanting credit. And I'm like, you didn't make the song. You asked AI to make you a song

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about whatever thing, whatever thing you're interested in. You took those lyrics from chat,

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then put it into sooner and said, make me a song about this. And in three minutes,

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it spat out a song with a really catchy cut. And you've gone, this is my new song. And I

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clever, I'm now a musician. It's like, you have no idea what it's like to be me. You have no

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idea of the blood, sweat and tears. Now everyone can just go, blah, blah, blah, make me a

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song. And people are making albums in five minutes. It's disgusting, really. And it has no soul.

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It's, I think, the good thing that's going to come out of this, I think is, I think it's going to

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split people into two different directions. It's going to be a want and a need for AI music

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because of it's because of how convenient it is because of how quickly you can make an album.

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So there'll probably be an AI chart, a chart just for the people that want that

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shit. I don't, but there will also be, I think it's going to push old timers and purists like me

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down another road that really want the real music with, you know, anti-establishment kind of

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lyrics or with the right intent, with the right frequencies, real music, there's going to be a

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want and I hope there's going to be a want and need for it over here somewhere. But it seems,

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of course, the masses, the asses will follow this, will love AI, they will lap it up.

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They will lap it up. They will love it and they seem to be doing so. And I think it's absolutely

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ruining creativity. It's making people dumb as shit, you know, and I think it's,

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I think musicians are going to have to think a little differently if they want to get

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exposure. It's going to be very tough out there for musicians, but I hope people have

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the intelligence to actually see it for what it is and start appreciating real music because

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that ain't real music. So it's dreadful. Yeah, it takes me about 20 seconds to turn that off.

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And I don't care who made it, even if somebody I like made it. And there is something of them

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that went into it. I shut down, there's, and it's not even just the idea of it that I don't like,

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it's there's something, it's like, no, I don't want this in my system that I have to then

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detox something or other. Yeah, it's dirty. It's dirty. I've always said like 440 hertz,

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it's like the fluoride of the music industry. And I hear that in AI music, I hear it's dirty.

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It's like, there's not a pureness to it. I can't hear the guy singing it. Of course,

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you can't because it's digital. And it's just like, there's a bunch of, I can hear,

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I've got really good ears. It's a blessing and a curse. And I hear every, it's,

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I feel dirty after I've listened to an AI song. I really do. Yeah, I'm with you on that one.

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And, and then the creative process is, you know, that that's on the chopping block is so big there.

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And I think that's completely by design, because we've been maybe taught that the creative process,

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the important part is, oh, I got a thing, I got a song, I got a book, I got a,

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you know, end product. But it the process itself, people don't necessarily know what it means to

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this is a writer's metaphor, but it is cross the board relevant that to bleed on the page

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to open your soul and allow the guts to pour and to have it be terrible for a while or even,

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you know, stays terrible or it's just your blood and your guts and it's going to make you cry

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and feel everything. And this is, this is what we don't necessarily sense in the end.

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AI could never replicate that. Never. It will never have that kind of soul where you're bleeding.

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There's a reason like there's something terrible that's happened or something magnificent that happened

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and you feel the need to put it into a palm in and then you sculpt the musical landscape

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around that with your intent with your emotion and every bend of the guitar is your pain.

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I can't do that. No, no, exactly. Exactly. And the victory on the other side,

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when you have that breakthrough and you're willing to go through the pain of creating,

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then it's that makes for a happy life. There's to me no greater happiness than when I am clear

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enough to allow things to be created through me. And that makes it a life worth living.

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I always feel like, yep, I could die now. And with no regret,

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feel like I lived a good life for that. So let's go there. And thank you, Alisa. I appreciate that.

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And David, it does have a last question. We'll read what this is. So that's

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my last question. Don't want to drag AI into this, but we'll send you an email in the future.

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Oh, okay. I thought you had another point there. And oh, this is, it fun reminds me of

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water cooling electric machines made made the song. And I have a habit of say there's

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annoying sound in an environment that could be a lawnmower or a boat motor or some, you know,

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lights that I had, I had lights that were making frequencies some years. Luckily that's gone now.

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LEDs by any chance. Was that or the LEDs by any chance? It's probably the case. Yeah,

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probably exactly. LEDs I know are pretty evil. And so my defense mechanism for that

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has always been to sing along, right? So I will, I will listen for the tone in the annoying sound.

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See if I could find one. They're usually like lack lack coherence, but you can almost always

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find one at least. And then I will make that my drone and sing around it. And that takes something

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that's like miserable and awful into some again, the happier moments of my life. You're

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canceling out the frequency on you're canceling out your your your your matching that that frequency

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wave and you're canceling it out. Is that what it is? Because I'm not trying to sing over or drown

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it out. I'm going with it. And that can and that cancels it. Well, if you're matching the

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frequency exactly, I mean, if you're taking it obviously with it with any sound, there's

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the overtones and the undertones if you take the predominant sound and you match it with

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your voice or whatever instrument if you match the main frequency, you would I guess there

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would be a conflict there and you would you would cancel it out, I think.

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Yeah, because I'm more apt to sing harmony, like sing around it a little bit on it under

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it. I listen to trucks on the street and I end up harmonizing with a fucking with a truck.

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Exactly. Exactly. That's my most favorite game ever. And when I'm under stress, if I'm

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being, say, corralled in an airport and it's like it's abuse at that level, I will start

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singing, I'll just I'll sing to survive it. Humming as well. There's a lot to humming,

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apparently. And if you're in an airport, which are the worst places in the world, which is one

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of the reasons I hate traveling because they're just, oh, they're terrible places.

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Yeah, humming could be a very good healing modality, I think in an airport for sure.

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Exactly. My latest favorite game with humming is I got a vibration plate.

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And it's for exercise, but it turns out that if you tone on there, then it moves the sound around

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in your body, moves the vibration around in your body to different places, which I was like, wow,

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amazing. And if you hum, because I'm trying to spend a lot of time with my tongue on the

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roof of my mouth, training my tongue to do that, if you've heard of that at all. Yeah,

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sleep better and all kinds of things. And so if you hum, I'm tending to make a cavity

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in my mouth anyway, even though my lips are closed. But if you close that gap, then again,

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another level of something interesting is going on with the humming. So yeah, I'm playing with that.

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Yeah, there's a lot of Montgolian throat singing that does that. They will not only hum,

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but they will create these overtones and undertones that can create light. It's like a

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hum. So there's your main, but there's a there's a there's so much going on that if you get that right,

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and you do that, you know, for hours or whatever in the right space, then profound profound things

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can happen, I think. Exactly. Exactly. Were you ever into mantra in any way? Or is that just

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no, no, no, I wish I really wish I want to get into more of that, but I've tried

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meditating in a month. I've tried all of that. But my mind's just too busy.

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So go ahead. Just my real quick thing is that I've I don't practice mantra anymore. It

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dumps you down. It numbs you out. It actually dulls your senses. That's how I got sick

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with the stage four lymphoma was doing all this mantra, all this meditation. Wow. Now I

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would rather focus rather than check out or bliss out or feel so happy or, you know, I actually want

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to zero in focus, not numb out. Right. Okay. Well, then maybe I should see that as a good thing,

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the fact that I can't numb out. I've tried because I've always, you know, I've always had

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trouble with sleeping and that and relaxing because I'm always on the go in my brain.

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I'm always created. I've always got a project. I'm always doing something.

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Find it very difficult to relax and zone out. But maybe I shouldn't feel so guilty about that.

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Yeah, exactly. There's there is a downside to that that using it to check out. I had a roommate

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die of cancer that way and her cult just said, Oh, go chant more. So she chanted more and she was

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gone. Yeah. I can't say that that killed her, but it didn't help. Obviously. Yeah.

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Interesting. No, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. So there's a dark side to chanting

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in as well. Wow. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Exactly. That's why you can get so much corruption in those

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communities that I was just looking at a documentary yesterday. Some guy was actually pretending

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to be a guru. So he just happened to look like an Indian. And so he played the part and he made

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himself into a guru and he had the following. And oh, where was I going to go with that? I

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don't I can't remember offhand, but shoot, I missed the point. It was so it was so funny

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that everybody wanted to go forward and they're they're like, you are so special and I feel

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amazing around you. And I actually basically everyone drunk the Kool-Aid. Everyone drank

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the Kool-Aid and I also drank the Kool-Aid in India. I had a guru. So this this was a point

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of interest too that you put that word in your. Yeah. If I had my time again, I wouldn't use

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that, but carry on. Okay. Well, what was behind it for you that?

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Because I was doing conspiracy. I was listening to a marketing guy at the time and he said,

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if you're going to do something, present yourself as an expert in the field. If you

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want to get a following. And I was doing conspiracy music. And I thought, well,

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if people are looking for conspiracy music, then they're going to type into Google conspiracy

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music. So what can I be conspiracy music guy conspiracy? And I remember him saying,

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you know, present yourself as an expert and remember guru really means guide or teacher

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or something like that. And I thought, well, I'm putting information in that is guiding

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and teaching. So just as an online handle, you know, some people are online or called

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like, you know, the tech guru, if there's a guy online who does nothing but Apple stuff.

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And he's a tech guru, he calls himself tech guru, or there's a guy called something Jedi,

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you know, they don't really see themselves as a Jedi or a guru or a Sith or whatever,

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or a warrior or whatever. They're just online handles at the end of the day.

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So it was kind of a tongue-in-cheek thing. I wish I'd said, I don't know,

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just call myself Alex, my course, I'd be good. Oh, guru, you think you're a guru?

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No, it's just a bit of a tongue-in-cheek blah, blah, blah. So yeah, that was

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the thinking around it. So yeah, I'm not trying to start a cult or anything,

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or trying to get people to drink the Kool-Aid or anything. I think, you know,

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judge them by their fruits, I think. And I think my fruits have been okay,

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I've made mistakes, don't get me wrong, but I'm still learning and I'm trying to,

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you know, I'm trying to do the right thing musically. I feel like I've got a purpose

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now, you know, now that I know some stuff, why not put it into music, which is my way of

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communicating, you know, rather than writing another tepid love song. I think the world

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has got too many of those as it is. So I'm doing something very unique and different,

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and it's the worst business decision I've ever made. But you know, I get so much joy

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from doing it and seeing the response. I would never criticize you. Also, comedy is such a big

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part of what you're delivering too. So that's a perfect fit, if you ask me. The gurus, there's

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no end to the amount of material you can make fun of in that world, right? That it's literally

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endless nuts. Well, you can get away with a lot more if it's a joke, right? You know,

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it's more tongue-in-cheek, it's perceived as comedy or satire, whatever. And the good thing about

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infusing comedy with truth is, even if people don't believe or resonate with what I'm saying,

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the visuals and the how animated I am in the videos, particularly with the flat

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earth man character that I did about seven years ago now, something like that, and maybe more,

01:00:00.550 --> 01:00:07.290
actually. Yeah, no, yeah, eight years ago. That becomes a lot more shareable when you can make

01:00:07.290 --> 01:00:14.330
someone laugh. Even if they don't get the subject really, it's just me really making fun of

01:00:14.330 --> 01:00:20.370
NASA and showing green screen and harness fails and all that sort of stuff. And me just pointing

01:00:20.370 --> 01:00:24.970
at it and going, hmm, that's suspicious, don't you think? And just being really animated and

01:00:24.970 --> 01:00:30.130
dancing around them, it's a funny video at that point. And it becomes way more shareable. People

01:00:30.130 --> 01:00:35.590
would rather share a five-minute funny music video than listen to two hours of Eric Dubey

01:00:35.590 --> 01:00:40.610
droning on about proof after proof after proof after proof. That's for a certain type of audience,

01:00:40.750 --> 01:00:44.930
but I want to get, you know, I want to recruit the new people into this information and go,

01:00:45.030 --> 01:00:50.990
hey, look at this shower of crap that NASA are putting out. Surely you should be questioning

01:00:50.990 --> 01:00:56.330
this. And I'm just doing that in a musical comedic way. I want to do more comedy for sure,

01:00:56.370 --> 01:01:02.790
because that really resonates with a lot of people. And, you know, it makes this darker world a little

01:01:02.790 --> 01:01:09.690
bit more fun, I think, if you're doing it with a skip in your step and a nudge in a wink.

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And, you know, I think it's definitely more fun to make, that's for sure.

01:01:15.790 --> 01:01:20.530
Indeed. It's more courageous because a lot of people get stuck in the anger side of the

01:01:20.530 --> 01:01:26.930
truth movement, so-called. And if you go up a few steps, you know, raise the frequency, which I'm

01:01:26.930 --> 01:01:32.630
actually not a fan of. I'm an Ascension Buster, in case you hadn't seen that. But it brings you

01:01:32.630 --> 01:01:38.210
into a place of much greater courage. And through that, also much greater connection,

01:01:38.930 --> 01:01:43.110
you let your guard down when you have a laugh. There's something like you just become

01:01:44.430 --> 01:01:49.090
authentically yourself for a second or however long that takes place. So yeah,

01:01:49.570 --> 01:01:54.570
I got addicted. Someone suggested a show. I don't watch shows, but they suggested it.

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It's in my house of free will, so I always try to out of respect, look at what they want me to

01:01:59.630 --> 01:02:04.630
see. So I got addicted to this show called The Good Place. And, you know, there's-

01:02:04.630 --> 01:02:05.410
I've been watching that.

01:02:05.570 --> 01:02:09.830
You know, okay, yeah, there's certain good elements. And then it just gets a laugh

01:02:09.830 --> 01:02:16.750
out of me. And there's- there is something to be said for this, like life worth living, right?

01:02:18.350 --> 01:02:23.910
Yeah, we don't have much choice, do we? I mean, you could handle it in a bunch of

01:02:23.910 --> 01:02:27.130
different ways. And I've handled it in a bunch of different ways musically. When I was angry with

01:02:27.130 --> 01:02:33.350
COVID, I was shouting into a microphone and I produced a rock album. And that was essential

01:02:33.350 --> 01:02:37.170
for my therapy, I think. Like I said before, I don't need a therapist. I need a microphone.

01:02:37.170 --> 01:02:41.890
I think that was essential. I mean, it's okay to be angry. It's okay to be pissed off with the world.

01:02:42.670 --> 01:02:47.450
But I definitely see what you're saying about, you know, just dealing with it with the

01:02:47.450 --> 01:02:53.550
humor of the- because we are living in a clown world. Nothing makes sense. It's almost-

01:02:53.550 --> 01:02:57.710
if you can detach yourself from, you know, from the red and the blue and the left and

01:02:57.710 --> 01:03:02.610
the right and just see it for one big stage and just one- and if you can zoom out enough

01:03:02.610 --> 01:03:07.630
to see that and start having fun with it, which I think I'm at that stage now, just have fun with

01:03:07.630 --> 01:03:13.450
it. Stop getting angry. You can't change it. You can't change it. Just have fun with it. Try and,

01:03:13.450 --> 01:03:18.730
you know, enlighten other people and get people on board. But I think having fun is absolutely

01:03:18.730 --> 01:03:25.230
essential. So, yeah, I totally see what you're saying. That's great. I love how when you

01:03:25.230 --> 01:03:29.190
start talking about fun, it gets really serious. Not with you, but I just noticed that in

01:03:29.190 --> 01:03:34.590
general, as soon as you want to do that, you used the word purpose earlier and that's

01:03:34.590 --> 01:03:40.730
the music to my ears. That's my whole subject and it's what my near-death experience taught me

01:03:40.730 --> 01:03:47.890
that we're not here in a random way. And you did the quiz on my website, the King Hero quiz,

01:03:48.070 --> 01:03:53.110
and got the nurturer. So that's- it's all a measure. All of the archetypes are not a measure

01:03:53.110 --> 01:03:59.770
as if like high or low amount of purpose, but the blueprint of the purpose that might be more

01:03:59.770 --> 01:04:05.850
predominant. And I think you and I both maybe expected- this is so fun when it's not what I

01:04:05.850 --> 01:04:10.490
expect. You know, maybe more of the rebel was going to come forward because there's an obvious

01:04:10.490 --> 01:04:15.330
persona there in your music, like you said with the rock album and just like doing your anger

01:04:15.330 --> 01:04:24.770
therapy, which I love. But it came up the nurturer, whose purpose really is service

01:04:25.590 --> 01:04:32.590
to give back. The nurturer is far enough along the hero's journey that they have enough of their

01:04:32.590 --> 01:04:40.990
own problems solved and they have something to give back. 100%. Yeah, that was a surprise to me as

01:04:40.990 --> 01:04:48.890
well. Like I said before we came on, that that was an interesting little quiz. Like one of the

01:04:48.890 --> 01:04:52.390
questions was something like, you know, do you want to give something to humanity? Do you want to

01:04:52.390 --> 01:04:56.950
help the world? And it's like, yeah, I do. And you held up a mirror to me. It's like,

01:04:58.050 --> 01:05:01.230
yeah, I am that guy. I'm that guy that's- I'm not doing this for the money.

01:05:02.350 --> 01:05:09.110
Definitely not. I'm doing this because I think I have something to say. I think I can help

01:05:09.110 --> 01:05:15.150
people. I think I can, you know, give people happier lives, healthier lives. Because I know that

01:05:16.030 --> 01:05:21.910
as long as I've been on this journey, I feel totally blessed to be on this journey.

01:05:23.510 --> 01:05:27.330
I'm a lot healthier and happier for having been on it. Yeah, there's some darkness there. I've

01:05:27.330 --> 01:05:30.670
done my dark night of the soul and you have to do the shadow work and understand that,

01:05:30.890 --> 01:05:35.670
you know, this place isn't quite what we were told. And where we live is not quite-

01:05:35.670 --> 01:05:42.870
pretty much everything you have to just let go of every single ology, pretty much. But I'm a happier

01:05:42.870 --> 01:05:49.530
person for having done that. And now I can see- I mean, I still got a lot to learn. Don't get me

01:05:49.530 --> 01:05:56.150
wrong. I've got a shitload to learn. But at least now I feel I'm in a position to help or inform

01:05:56.150 --> 01:06:01.810
or educate in some kind of way. I've had many messages that from mothers even like,

01:06:01.810 --> 01:06:08.110
your music helps me to educate my children on the deceptions of NASA or your song Big Farmer

01:06:08.110 --> 01:06:13.350
really helps my mother see, you know, that these GibiJabs weren't probably the best medical

01:06:13.350 --> 01:06:17.950
intervention in the world. And various different messages that I get from people,

01:06:18.210 --> 01:06:21.690
you know, saying that I've helped them in some way. Maybe it's just a lyric. Maybe it's

01:06:21.690 --> 01:06:27.270
the entire song. Maybe it's just a chorus. Maybe it's the theme, whatever. But when you start

01:06:27.270 --> 01:06:30.730
putting that music out there and you start realizing you are actually helping people,

01:06:31.470 --> 01:06:35.650
you're like, damn, how can I stop doing this? I now have a purpose. Maybe that's what I was

01:06:35.650 --> 01:06:40.170
put here to do. I'm not going to write another love song. I'm not going to do that anymore.

01:06:40.490 --> 01:06:44.250
You know, if I'm to write a song, there has to be something in there, at least a lyric

01:06:44.250 --> 01:06:48.590
that can move someone go, why did he put that? What's he talking about? Maybe I

01:06:48.590 --> 01:06:53.010
should do my research on that. And many people do. And they come to the same conclusions of,

01:06:53.010 --> 01:06:59.650
you know, step by step, drop by drop, you're going, oh, holy crap. It's a different world

01:06:59.650 --> 01:07:03.510
we're living in. And maybe, you know, maybe that's what I was put here to do, just to,

01:07:03.550 --> 01:07:08.670
you know, to help people see the way I see. And I think there's so much more. I was very

01:07:08.670 --> 01:07:11.970
arrogant when I got to the cosmology thing and the flat out, I thought there's no bigger

01:07:11.970 --> 01:07:16.670
truth than that. There's no bigger truth. There's no, you know, but there's so much

01:07:16.670 --> 01:07:20.290
more out there. There's so much more. The more I zoom out, the more I step back. It's like,

01:07:20.290 --> 01:07:27.050
wow. And thank God I am stepping back and zooming out really, because I can now see it from a

01:07:27.050 --> 01:07:31.450
different perspective the most. And I just take that perspective, put it into music. And

01:07:31.450 --> 01:07:36.210
a lot of times I, you know, I have fun with it. I do comedic stuff. I do a grip. You know,

01:07:36.230 --> 01:07:43.010
I did my angry session. And now more of the healing stuff. So it's like an evolution of

01:07:43.010 --> 01:07:50.470
me as a person. Every album is what I'm going through. Every album is, you know, my exposure to

01:07:50.470 --> 01:07:55.050
a certain subject. And the Sol Fejo is just my exposure to, you know, the healing frequency

01:07:55.050 --> 01:07:59.650
world, which I thought was New Age Woo-Woo at the start, but I have a very different opinion

01:07:59.650 --> 01:08:07.130
of it now. So yeah, very therapeutic. It is my purpose. I don't think I can ever do anything

01:08:07.130 --> 01:08:11.550
else. And again, the worst business decision I ever made.

01:08:13.250 --> 01:08:18.430
There you go. So fun. Yeah. I often think, if I could do easier things for money.

01:08:19.370 --> 01:08:25.150
Yeah, so good. I could make songs about space and the galaxy. Right? I could do all of that,

01:08:25.310 --> 01:08:30.210
but no, my soul won't allow me to do it. Yeah, good for you. That's amazing.

01:08:30.970 --> 01:08:34.090
Don wants me to ask you about the books you created from your lyrics.

01:08:35.390 --> 01:08:41.510
Oh, thanks, Don. Yeah. That was Dave Weiss's idea, actually. I was on a podcast with him,

01:08:41.570 --> 01:08:47.070
and he was saying, hey, Alex, why don't you turn your songs into children's books?

01:08:48.550 --> 01:08:53.130
I'm like, oh, God, that's sad. I don't even know how to do that. How do you publish a book?

01:08:54.970 --> 01:08:58.890
And but he ignited the spark. And I was like, actually, that's a really good idea.

01:08:58.890 --> 01:09:02.230
Because as I said before, like, mothers were contacting me saying,

01:09:03.330 --> 01:09:07.430
I know my kids love your music because I'm so animated in these in these music videos.

01:09:08.930 --> 01:09:13.150
And kids love it. And it's a it's a really good teaching tool. So why not make a series of

01:09:13.150 --> 01:09:19.010
children's books out of those videos? So that was about a six month process. Once David had

01:09:19.010 --> 01:09:22.390
put that idea in my head, I had to run with it. It's like, and I'm quite obsessive.

01:09:22.470 --> 01:09:26.530
Once someone puts the idea and I think it's a good idea. Once someone puts the idea into

01:09:26.530 --> 01:09:30.630
my head, I'm like, yeah, that's it. So then I had to learn all about, you know, publishing and

01:09:32.710 --> 01:09:39.490
how to, you know, PDFs and kindle publishing and all that sort of stuff and then get screenshots

01:09:39.490 --> 01:09:43.890
of my videos and blah and do all that. So it took me about six months. But yeah, now I've got a

01:09:43.890 --> 01:09:49.350
range of seven children's books that every subject of there's one about the moon landing.

01:09:49.530 --> 01:09:53.510
There's one about photographs of Earth is one about the ISS is one about satellites, you

01:09:53.510 --> 01:10:01.190
know, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's there to get the cogs turning and to inspire a little bit

01:10:01.190 --> 01:10:07.250
of critical thought in youngsters. I mean, NASA are continually targeting our children, aren't

01:10:07.250 --> 01:10:12.010
they? So why can't we do the polar opposite of that and do the same and say, hey, by the way,

01:10:13.090 --> 01:10:16.550
you know, why don't you think about what you're being told here when it comes to,

01:10:16.550 --> 01:10:21.950
you know, outspace travel and globes and galaxies and ISS and moon landings and all

01:10:21.950 --> 01:10:29.290
this, this, this, this heliosaucery. That's a good word. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, brilliant. It's funny.

01:10:29.410 --> 01:10:34.150
I didn't come across your, your children's books yet, but I have a young person in my life. I'm

01:10:34.150 --> 01:10:38.170
going to get those for may and make a great Christmas present. Yes. Next year, because

01:10:38.170 --> 01:10:43.230
you won't get me. Well, actually, if you go onto my website and you go on the merch section

01:10:43.230 --> 01:10:49.070
and you go to kids ebooks, you can download all the ebooks for free. So they're available

01:10:49.070 --> 01:10:53.730
digitally for free. If you want the hard copy, you have to go to Amazon and get them there.

01:10:54.210 --> 01:10:58.590
Right. Right. And it's no little thing to publish. So congratulations on that. I know it's,

01:10:59.030 --> 01:11:03.270
it's almost easy to write the book and that's not easy, but compared to the publishing, it's like,

01:11:03.290 --> 01:11:07.690
wow. Yeah. It was a pain in the ass. But, you know, I'm glad I did it. I'm glad I did it.

01:11:07.850 --> 01:11:11.810
Yeah. Absolutely. No, that's amazing to put that out and leave the legacy for the generation

01:11:11.810 --> 01:11:16.290
to come. Yeah. I hope those books end up on like, you know, in a dentist's waiting room

01:11:16.290 --> 01:11:19.950
or something, you know, a doctor's waiting room or something. I don't know. Or somewhere that

01:11:19.950 --> 01:11:24.170
the good thing about physical books is they will just be there. They will be in a loft somewhere

01:11:24.170 --> 01:11:27.510
or they'll be in a cupboard and someone will open the cupboard or be there. It's not like,

01:11:27.550 --> 01:11:31.130
you know, the digital book burning that we could be subjected to. All that stuff could

01:11:31.130 --> 01:11:36.290
disappear overnight. You've got physical copy. It's just, I just, I just, I like the idea

01:11:36.290 --> 01:11:40.030
of people just picking up the book and finding it, you know, for somewhere it could be a

01:11:40.030 --> 01:11:44.050
book in, I don't know, on a waiting room in a dentist's office in Arkansas or something.

01:11:44.050 --> 01:11:48.450
You're just like, just the idea of that someone going, what's this? You move a mind.

01:11:50.230 --> 01:11:55.410
Indeed. Indeed. Yeah. No, it's amazing that we take care of our, our next generations

01:11:55.410 --> 01:11:59.630
coming up. We know that's probably going to be a big divide. I can see the,

01:12:00.730 --> 01:12:05.890
you know, my son, I don't know how he did it, but he woke himself up. It was actually gun laws

01:12:05.890 --> 01:12:11.010
in Canada that he, he finally just went like, are you kidding me? This, he's like,

01:12:11.010 --> 01:12:17.530
this is bullshit. And then everything followed after that, like a house of cards, like, oh,

01:12:17.590 --> 01:12:23.330
this and that. And I think he never did. Yeah. He only once made fun of me that I'm probably a

01:12:23.330 --> 01:12:28.490
flat earth or so we didn't go down that road again. I just don't go on that hill very much

01:12:28.490 --> 01:12:34.090
to die on. He's primed and ready for it, I think. Yeah. I think so too. I think so too.

01:12:34.190 --> 01:12:39.830
Yeah. He's, he's very discriminating and he'll do it on his own. He doesn't want to be

01:12:39.830 --> 01:12:44.330
influenced. You know, when it came to the jabs and the boogeyman virus and everything,

01:12:44.810 --> 01:12:50.790
one day as an 11 year old or so he proclaims to me, I don't believe anything my dad says.

01:12:51.050 --> 01:12:57.370
And I don't believe anything you say. And I said, that's a good start. Yes. Like, I'm like,

01:12:57.390 --> 01:13:03.030
perfect. That means you're actually thinking for yourself. Go, go team. So yeah, no, that,

01:13:03.110 --> 01:13:09.270
it's worked out amazingly. So he's going to be, he's going to be a great young man. You

01:13:09.270 --> 01:13:13.750
know, he's already showing signs of greatness. Thank you. Yeah. I'm, I'm, it makes me hopeful.

01:13:14.010 --> 01:13:17.070
I'm actually going to be interviewing him today for the second time in the House of

01:13:17.070 --> 01:13:20.510
Free Will. So people are getting to hear from him. He swears a lot. I can't really

01:13:20.510 --> 01:13:25.870
bring him into public yet, but I'm really holding back by the way during this conversation.

01:13:26.310 --> 01:13:30.630
I swear an awful lot, but I'm trying to hold back. But I don't mind one bit,

01:13:30.730 --> 01:13:36.090
but I think the algorithms do tune in with the swearing. So it's, it's entirely up to

01:13:36.090 --> 01:13:40.950
you. I do not mind. I'm not a, yeah, yeah. Well, maybe privately, but I'm trying to hold back.

01:13:41.030 --> 01:13:44.650
I mean, I am working class, a drinker and a smoker and I'm working class and I do,

01:13:44.830 --> 01:13:47.690
actually, I don't think that there are such things as swear words. That's a whole

01:13:47.690 --> 01:13:51.290
another conversation. I think there's words and there's intent. We can use a swear word,

01:13:51.330 --> 01:13:55.810
a curse word and put good intent behind it. And if it automatically changes the

01:13:56.950 --> 01:14:01.110
intent of that word, but that's another conversation. But yeah, I'm actually a

01:14:01.110 --> 01:14:06.510
fan of swearing. Oh, yes. Indeed. Like I, my son and I, that's, that's really,

01:14:06.650 --> 01:14:10.950
we have so much fun talking to each other. Now it's interesting when you talk about intent

01:14:11.750 --> 01:14:19.610
and then sound. So you've got the same word that has, you know, how, how you deliver it

01:14:19.610 --> 01:14:26.010
matters, but the intent is even deeper than that, right? Because I've, and my son has called

01:14:26.010 --> 01:14:30.770
me out that as a child, when I would try to put the right voice on, and that would be really

01:14:30.770 --> 01:14:37.330
kind and sweet and trying to force him to do what I want. And he's like, I see right through you,

01:14:37.590 --> 01:14:43.390
mom, this is bullshit. And, and then I'm like, Oh, so I can't just put on the right tone.

01:14:44.890 --> 01:14:48.530
And I actually have to come up with the love. I've to be loving.

01:14:49.070 --> 01:14:55.150
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, your child's not a dog. You can't go, Hey, you little prick that you

01:14:55.150 --> 01:15:00.310
can't put the dogs can be fooled by that. I don't think your son's part of the

01:15:00.310 --> 01:15:08.310
life. Hey, how are you? I'm clearing your room. No, I think I think sound waves, I think

01:15:08.970 --> 01:15:15.270
sound waves are carriers of consciousness. I believe if you put your intent into a sound wave,

01:15:15.310 --> 01:15:20.850
it can be delivered in the way you intend it like emotos experiments, for instance, with

01:15:20.850 --> 01:15:26.910
the water, right? If you, if you, if you know, if you take a jar of water and then you swear it

01:15:26.910 --> 01:15:30.330
and you say, Oh, I hate you, I want to kill you. And you put it under a certain freezing,

01:15:31.150 --> 01:15:34.650
certain temperature, and then it will show all sorts of incoherent muddiness,

01:15:35.310 --> 01:15:39.530
blah, blah, blah. But if you talk nicely to a jar of water, same with the rice experiment

01:15:39.530 --> 01:15:43.490
as well, you know, and same with plants as well, if you if you put the right intent

01:15:43.490 --> 01:15:48.990
and you could make a plant thrive with just your voice, you could also make a plant

01:15:48.990 --> 01:15:55.330
wither and die with just your voice. It's the intent behind it. If you tell a plant, I hate you,

01:15:55.390 --> 01:16:00.350
you're disgusting. You disgust me. I want to kill you. I hope you die. You do that to a plant for

01:16:00.350 --> 01:16:05.530
a month or so and you watch it literally wither and die. You do the complete opposite to another

01:16:05.530 --> 01:16:08.910
plant and say, Oh, I love you. You're the most beautiful thing. You are gorgeous plant. Welcome

01:16:08.910 --> 01:16:13.330
to the world. I hope you find this beautiful. You're you're that plant is going to thrive.

01:16:13.810 --> 01:16:16.730
But you have to do it the right intent. If you was like looking at that plant,

01:16:16.730 --> 01:16:22.430
actually hating it but saying the right words, I don't think that's going to have the same effect.

01:16:22.550 --> 01:16:27.370
I do believe that sound waves are carriers of your intent. You put your intent

01:16:27.370 --> 01:16:32.910
into a sound wave. That's how you deliver, you know, real change. I think it's wizardry,

01:16:33.090 --> 01:16:36.550
really, it's audio alchemy. I think it has to come from the intent. It has to come from

01:16:36.550 --> 01:16:45.630
the art, which my music does. That's beautiful. I love that. Let's see. Steve likes swearing

01:16:45.630 --> 01:16:56.270
the highest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he says, I just answered your question earlier about the

01:16:56.270 --> 01:17:01.430
difference between tone notes and frequency. It's not what you say or do. It's the tone you use

01:17:01.430 --> 01:17:05.770
when you say it and the intention of the tone because I can, you know, people can fake tones.

01:17:05.990 --> 01:17:12.090
They can make tones. They can, they can mimic tones. And that's what you notice with like

01:17:12.090 --> 01:17:19.630
more, say, people who are void of souls mimic very well. And this is what our AI is doing. It's

01:17:19.630 --> 01:17:27.490
mimicking our emotions. It's busy studying our emotions. I know for a fact. It's mimicking

01:17:27.490 --> 01:17:31.610
all of the soul music. In fact, there's a lot of lawsuits out there at the moment that are

01:17:31.610 --> 01:17:35.490
suing sooner because it's basically plagiarizing all of the music that's out there. It's

01:17:35.490 --> 01:17:39.710
learning from all of the music out there and it's currently learning how to be a soulful

01:17:39.710 --> 01:17:45.150
singer. And I can pick it out like that. It's just a, but it's getting better. It's going to mimic

01:17:45.150 --> 01:17:50.310
soul. Whereas some people hear the recording and they go, oh, that's so soulful. But with no

01:17:50.310 --> 01:17:57.370
intent behind it, without the singer's pain, without, without that, that core intent behind

01:17:57.370 --> 01:18:05.190
it, it's just a big bunch of nothing noise to me. You know, so, so it's going to get very

01:18:05.190 --> 01:18:09.890
good at mimicking soul AI. You know, I dread to think what's around the corner, but it can

01:18:09.890 --> 01:18:15.070
never compare to real intent going into sound waves and affecting people on a profound level

01:18:15.530 --> 01:18:19.870
because it's coming from your heart. As Imoto has shown, as the, as the rice experiment has

01:18:19.870 --> 01:18:23.450
shown, you know, talking well to plants and giving plants the right music and watching

01:18:23.450 --> 01:18:28.410
them fry with the right, it will never compare to that. It can't. Exactly. John was

01:18:28.410 --> 01:18:35.350
pointing out the secret book of plants. And to me, the, the unreplicable element is life,

01:18:36.050 --> 01:18:40.770
right? That this you can't do. Sure. Maybe you can mimic soul because soul has certain qualities

01:18:40.770 --> 01:18:46.870
about it. Life does not have qualities. There is something is either alive or it has the

01:18:46.870 --> 01:18:53.210
absence of life. And to me, that's the insult of the AI music. Now, I'm not totally against AI.

01:18:53.210 --> 01:18:58.610
It has actually transformed my life. There's a bunch of stuff that I do in my work that eats

01:18:58.610 --> 01:19:04.030
gobs of time and I don't like it. I do it as a matter of diligence so that I can do everything

01:19:04.030 --> 01:19:10.590
that is purposeful for me. And I've got it doing it. And it's like, wow, this is amazing.

01:19:11.230 --> 01:19:16.090
And I know they're going to addick me to it. And I'm going to be very sad when I need to,

01:19:16.090 --> 01:19:20.950
you know, drop a blood to get on or whatever the price of admission is going to be. I know

01:19:20.950 --> 01:19:26.250
that this is some kind of weird in-between place where they let us play with the toys.

01:19:27.550 --> 01:19:33.270
They're priming us for this. They're priming us for a digital world, aren't they? They're testing

01:19:33.270 --> 01:19:37.670
the waters with the digital currency and maybe that will become mandatory. Maybe your music will

01:19:37.670 --> 01:19:40.930
be AI. And it's all, you know, when it gets to that point of, you know, you've got to sign

01:19:40.930 --> 01:19:47.050
in with your iris scan or your footprint, then that's the time to walk away. But yeah,

01:19:47.050 --> 01:19:51.850
AI is a double-edged sword. It can be used for good. I don't suppose I have a real problem with

01:19:51.850 --> 01:19:56.770
someone making an AI song, talking about all the deception of the world. So therefore, the end

01:19:56.770 --> 01:20:01.710
user can then listen to it and be enlightened and then start on their own journey of truth.

01:20:02.190 --> 01:20:05.410
I don't really have a problem with that. I think that, you know, I think the foundations

01:20:05.410 --> 01:20:09.630
are quite shaky at that point because the music is not great. But if you're putting,

01:20:09.650 --> 01:20:14.430
you know, the real intent and good information in an AI song, then, you know,

01:20:14.810 --> 01:20:18.930
I might just let it pass. But, you know, in terms of, you know, having real profound effects

01:20:18.930 --> 01:20:22.530
with music, but if it gets someone on their journey and gets someone questioning, then maybe it can

01:20:22.530 --> 01:20:27.410
be used for that, maybe. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you're not replacing your creative process

01:20:27.950 --> 01:20:33.330
that is the blueprint that you pay forward with, right? Every time you create, then you're

01:20:33.330 --> 01:20:38.310
actually inspiring the next person to say like, Hey, because I'm a songwriter in India,

01:20:38.330 --> 01:20:43.310
he'd written more than 2000 songs. And I thought, well, you wrote 2000, I bet I can write one

01:20:43.310 --> 01:20:49.770
or two. And I started on my path at that point, right? So that's how creativity becomes something

01:20:49.770 --> 01:20:55.950
that's, that's like infectious in a good way. Yeah. Yeah, people think that writing a song is some,

01:20:56.010 --> 01:21:00.110
some, something that only a genius could do. Like people put Bob Dylan on a, on a, on a,

01:21:00.110 --> 01:21:04.190
on a pedestal because he was such a great, I don't believe that at all. I mean,

01:21:05.090 --> 01:21:10.170
don't even get me started on Bob Dylan. But his deal with the devil aside, there's all of

01:21:10.170 --> 01:21:14.310
that. Whether he even wrote his songs is another question as well. We know that people

01:21:14.310 --> 01:21:17.770
didn't write any of theirs, but there's that huge question mark above all of that.

01:21:19.430 --> 01:21:24.650
But writing a song is not difficult. I mean, any child can write a poem. Any child can write a

01:21:24.650 --> 01:21:29.050
poem. If you can just make, if you can just just speak from the heart and make something rhyme,

01:21:29.210 --> 01:21:32.790
I guarantee you I could turn that into a really nice song. If it's from the heart,

01:21:32.950 --> 01:21:37.730
it doesn't even have to rhyme. It's just writing something down. It doesn't have to rhyme.

01:21:37.730 --> 01:21:42.050
It's just why, why pretend that someone that can write a song is, Oh my God, he wrote that all

01:21:42.050 --> 01:21:47.530
by himself. Well, okay. So he can write and he can write. It's not something that only geniuses

01:21:47.530 --> 01:21:50.930
can do. You can just sit down and put your thoughts onto a bit of paper. It doesn't

01:21:50.930 --> 01:21:54.470
have to rhyme. Just pour your heart out. There's a song right there. You're now a songwriter.

01:21:56.670 --> 01:22:02.450
And yet it's highly nuanced. And there's, you know, when I'm, I'm a music snob, I don't

01:22:02.450 --> 01:22:05.710
bother to listen to anything if I don't like it. Like I just don't want to,

01:22:05.710 --> 01:22:09.570
I don't want to have it in the background. I don't want those worms in my head. If I'm

01:22:09.570 --> 01:22:15.650
going to get worms in my head, I want them to be good worms. So there's even a risk when I'll

01:22:15.650 --> 01:22:18.710
listen to people's music in a strange way, which might sound weird.

01:22:18.950 --> 01:22:22.150
Yeah, it should come from you. It should be, I don't listen to any music anymore. I try to

01:22:22.150 --> 01:22:25.230
avoid it. Of course, when you go to the supermarket or whatever, and there's something

01:22:25.230 --> 01:22:29.330
planned, you can't avoid it, but you're in a taxi or whatever. But it's on in the car.

01:22:29.550 --> 01:22:33.190
Turn it off. I try not to be influenced in any way, shape or form. I want it to all come

01:22:33.190 --> 01:22:37.790
from me. Obviously, I have my, you know, my guitar bends and my guitar solos are maybe slightly

01:22:37.790 --> 01:22:41.670
clapped on X because I do love clapped on them. Obviously, it's going to be an influence there.

01:22:42.090 --> 01:22:46.310
I don't think we can escape any kind of influence, but I try to make it all mine.

01:22:46.330 --> 01:22:50.430
If I can, I want it to come from me and me only. Can't really escape those

01:22:50.430 --> 01:22:55.030
the influences that I heard from Pink Floyd or, or, or Stevie Ray Vaughan or

01:22:55.510 --> 01:22:59.190
Hendricks or whatever. You can't really, oh, that's a nice bend. But again, if you're

01:22:59.190 --> 01:23:01.790
doing it with the right intent and the right frequency, you can have more of a

01:23:01.790 --> 01:23:05.770
profound effect. But yeah, I try and avoid influence if I can these days.

01:23:06.570 --> 01:23:11.330
Right. Right. I get you. Yeah. And then there's no, nothing new under the sun, right? So we,

01:23:11.370 --> 01:23:15.790
we inevitably borrow their songs. I thought were so original and like where people are like,

01:23:15.930 --> 01:23:18.810
where did that come from? And then I'd go back and listen to something and go like,

01:23:19.030 --> 01:23:23.210
oh my goodness, that's where I, that got in my brain. And I didn't know I was,

01:23:23.790 --> 01:23:27.150
it wasn't a copy, but I could see clearly there was a.

01:23:27.470 --> 01:23:30.110
Yeah. So much stuff is stolen from classical music as well,

01:23:30.110 --> 01:23:34.570
Rachmaninoff as well. You know, there's certain sections of a Rachmaninoff song

01:23:34.570 --> 01:23:38.310
that did the piano concerto number two, Rachmaninoff. The sections of that

01:23:38.310 --> 01:23:43.890
were stolen to make All By Myself by Nielsen and made famous by Celine Dion.

01:23:44.070 --> 01:23:51.650
There's a lovely little bridge in there that's just beautiful. But

01:23:52.410 --> 01:23:55.150
so when you hear it and you go, Oh my God, that was amazing. Like,

01:23:55.210 --> 01:23:58.050
how did Nielsen come up with that? No, he stole it from Rachmaninoff.

01:23:58.050 --> 01:24:01.670
The reason they're able to steal it is because it's over 100 years old and it's

01:24:01.670 --> 01:24:05.950
copyright free at that point. So, so much is taken from those great composers and

01:24:05.950 --> 01:24:08.830
brought into the real world. And you think, Oh, that's amazing. No, you stole that.

01:24:10.570 --> 01:24:16.570
Exactly. Yeah. The good artists borrow and great artists steal. Steve is saying AI will

01:24:16.570 --> 01:24:21.390
never have what we call X factor. Even when it, when it learns to try and be less

01:24:21.890 --> 01:24:26.810
perfect to mimic us, it still won't ever have that thing that resonates with us.

01:24:26.810 --> 01:24:32.610
Yeah. 100%. It will never, it will never have that. It can't have that. It's utterly soulless.

01:24:33.070 --> 01:24:38.090
Yeah. Yeah. What did my, my son's dad is a music producer as well. And he would,

01:24:38.090 --> 01:24:42.870
he would call it the intangible, the thing that couldn't be named or you can't

01:24:42.870 --> 01:24:46.450
put your finger on it, but it's there and everybody knows it.

01:24:47.210 --> 01:24:52.210
I've just realized something. The URL that you've got healingfrequencies.net

01:24:52.210 --> 01:24:56.730
It's healingwithfrequencies.net. So anyone who tried to go onto that website and not

01:24:56.730 --> 01:25:00.970
going to find my website. Sorry about that. Yeah. My apologies too. I should have been

01:25:00.970 --> 01:25:03.930
prepared healing with. Excellent. I'm going to change that right now. So,

01:25:05.250 --> 01:25:08.690
and I will even grab that as a URL to put in the chat.

01:25:11.310 --> 01:25:21.700
There we go. Sometimes I said I was complaining they go and improve something

01:25:21.700 --> 01:25:26.680
and it doesn't make it better. It's okay. It's under my, under my

01:25:28.100 --> 01:25:32.780
try. Try one more time to do this. It's no reason it shouldn't work healing.

01:25:33.280 --> 01:25:36.120
It's okay. It's right. It's right there. Look anyway.

01:25:38.260 --> 01:25:39.240
One dumb thing.

01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:45.100
How's that? Okay. Yeah. I can sleep at night now. Excellent.

01:25:45.900 --> 01:25:49.680
You wouldn't want to add to the insomnia. I got some ideas to share with you,

01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:52.200
but I'll share offline if you're interested. Yeah.

01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:57.420
Because I completely transformed my sleep. I sleep through the entire night now.

01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:04.100
I'm getting there. I was borderline insomniac for many, many years. I've done a lot of work

01:26:06.580 --> 01:26:12.920
mentally. Just doing some relaxation sort of exercises and relaxing my body. What I've done

01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:20.600
is I've, I've, you, I kind of pay attention to my body and I realized the stress that's

01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:24.940
in my neck and I go, hold on. Your neck's really stressed. It's really, you don't realize it until

01:26:24.940 --> 01:26:31.920
you actually focus on, on relaxing your neck and you start, okay, focus on the neck. Relax.

01:26:32.100 --> 01:26:36.740
And then also the neck. I'm doing it now. Now my shoulders are dropping. It's only when you

01:26:36.740 --> 01:26:40.860
really focus on that. And I've been doing that in bed and like, okay, relax your shins,

01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:45.920
relax your toes, relax your face. Like the amount of tension you carry in your face is

01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:51.740
incredible in your eyebrows. And it's like, you go to bed like this, this coiled mess and you

01:26:51.740 --> 01:26:58.240
don't realize it. And you try to sleep like, why do I can't sleep? Then you start to sort of have

01:26:58.240 --> 01:27:03.280
a little, I've started to have a little word with myself and go like, dude, you know, stop it.

01:27:05.780 --> 01:27:08.700
And I've been, I'm way better now. I'm way, way better now.

01:27:09.500 --> 01:27:12.180
That's good. Oh, good for you. That's amazing. Yeah, that can go a long way.

01:27:12.660 --> 01:27:17.080
And I won't go off on too much of a tangent, but you can keep in mind that copper is poison.

01:27:17.240 --> 01:27:24.620
And that's something that causes causes a lot of insomnia, a lot of jaw and, and this

01:27:25.480 --> 01:27:31.920
you're just shattering. I'm drinking out of copper cups. Stop it. Really? Stop it. Wow. Yep.

01:27:32.100 --> 01:27:38.660
That is the biggest sigh up ever. Wow. Yep. And I got tons of receipts and medical literature

01:27:38.660 --> 01:27:44.120
if you need that. So what you should need that fence. Right. Okay. My wife needs to hear this.

01:27:44.220 --> 01:27:51.260
She's, she's, um, she's big on the copper. Okay. It's a stimulant. Almost every poison is,

01:27:51.260 --> 01:27:56.380
is stimulating. So we get high from it. That's why people think that they're, when they eat

01:27:56.380 --> 01:28:00.540
organs, they're, they're getting high. They are because they're being poisoned.

01:28:02.780 --> 01:28:07.480
And so it has this, you know, I used to guzzle green juices loaded in copper.

01:28:07.480 --> 01:28:15.880
And I would go, Oh, I'm so healing over here. I'm high and go up. Yeah. Okay.

01:28:15.980 --> 01:28:21.100
Noted. Thanks for that. You're very welcome. Yeah. I love the, the alternative to the alternative.

01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:25.100
Yeah. Yeah. Now I consider it's like another ivermectin, isn't it?

01:28:25.700 --> 01:28:33.420
What's that? It's like another ivermectin, right? Yeah. Bingo. Bingo. Yep. Exactly.

01:28:33.420 --> 01:28:38.280
No, I consider myself an outlier among outliers now that a whole bunch of the truth, the world,

01:28:38.300 --> 01:28:42.420
they don't like me anymore because I didn't just stop looking for the truth.

01:28:43.440 --> 01:28:46.340
Right. No, no, good for you. And I would, I would, um,

01:28:47.580 --> 01:28:49.600
same with colloidal silver. Right. Would you say that?

01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:57.140
Silver. Some people are slamming it. I, I don't want to take it in. And I don't

01:28:57.140 --> 01:29:03.280
hear bad things about it. So I mean, I do hear the bad things, but yeah. So my

01:29:03.280 --> 01:29:07.480
jury's still a little bit out. I don't want it in my body for some reason though. So there's that.

01:29:08.200 --> 01:29:11.840
And, uh, I know it's been slammed and all it turns people blue. There's different

01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:17.820
applications with, uh, literally does. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't want it.

01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:22.720
I think I had a lot of it. I'm done with it. I have used it topically when I had a very

01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:28.660
bad cut I was used to protect. So, uh, yeah. Yeah. There's, this is a very, very big

01:29:28.660 --> 01:29:34.940
subject. How's your time by the way? I'd never asked you. Yeah. Cause I have a bunch more questions.

01:29:35.440 --> 01:29:41.500
Great. And, uh, yeah. So when was that turning point when, when your music and

01:29:41.500 --> 01:29:46.700
conspiracy collided? Was there a moment where you, you weren't doing that when you decided you were?

01:29:47.400 --> 01:29:52.620
Yeah. I think there was definitely a turning point in 2012 because I'd been doing music.

01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:56.480
Like I was introduced to a piano when I was four years old. I come from a musical family.

01:29:56.480 --> 01:30:01.620
My dad was an organist. My uncle was a guitarist. My other uncle was a bassist. My other uncle was

01:30:01.620 --> 01:30:07.300
a drummer. They was all in a band together. So I was surrounded by music from a very early age.

01:30:07.540 --> 01:30:12.340
Started learning the piano when I was four. And, um, I did my first gig when I was eight

01:30:12.860 --> 01:30:17.900
playing in an old people's home, playing, um, Christmas music. And then, uh, I did some

01:30:17.900 --> 01:30:22.880
gigs when I was 12 and 13 playing keyboard in a little club and started out and then

01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:28.260
was DJ and I was a karaoke compare and acoustic guitarist and a singer. And I was just always doing

01:30:28.260 --> 01:30:32.020
cover songs and maybe a few of my own, which were those tepid love songs. It was just music,

01:30:32.120 --> 01:30:35.480
music, music. And I was making a living out of making music, which is what I always wanted.

01:30:36.260 --> 01:30:39.820
Never really wanted to work a day in my life. I wanted to, you know, I didn't

01:30:39.820 --> 01:30:43.020
never really wanted to clock in and clock out, although I did plenty of that.

01:30:43.940 --> 01:30:48.720
I wanted to make a living from making music and, uh, I achieved that to a certain extent.

01:30:49.380 --> 01:30:53.420
It's only in 2012 when, you know, an alternative narrative hit me.

01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:56.940
9-11 was the catalyst that got me into truth. Sure.

01:30:57.500 --> 01:31:03.440
And like a lot of people, like a lot of people, that's that similar story. And when that hit me,

01:31:03.900 --> 01:31:09.620
it was like, I, how can I make us another love song? Can I, this is so profound.

01:31:10.720 --> 01:31:14.300
Um, I don't know what to do with this information. I can't, you know,

01:31:14.300 --> 01:31:19.920
the only thing I could do is to put it into music. And in 2012, I wasn't really a competent music

01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:25.140
producer. I was just doing, you know, gigs in pubs. And I didn't really know how to record my

01:31:25.140 --> 01:31:32.860
stuff onto a computer. I got to about 2000 and 14, 15, where I was messing around with music

01:31:32.860 --> 01:31:37.180
production. I had a ringtone company, still have actually, and I was making ringtones and

01:31:37.180 --> 01:31:41.320
selling them on iTunes. And that was a good revenue for a while. And then,

01:31:41.320 --> 01:31:47.320
I, then all of, all of that just became like, just, God, it's so benign. And so,

01:31:47.740 --> 01:31:51.520
just, I don't know, just wasn't really changing the world. Really, I had this

01:31:52.160 --> 01:31:55.660
profound knowledge that the whole world doesn't work the way I thought it would.

01:31:55.760 --> 01:32:00.880
There's these huge lies, these lines that are so far out of most people's perception that they,

01:32:01.300 --> 01:32:06.400
but I got it. It's like, Oh, now the world makes sense. Like that line in the matrix where,

01:32:06.440 --> 01:32:10.220
where, where Morpheus says to Neo, there's something wrong in the world, you know it.

01:32:11.320 --> 01:32:15.700
But you just can't put your finger on it. You, you feel it when you go to work, you feel it when

01:32:15.700 --> 01:32:21.940
you go to church, when you pay your taxes. And I felt that and I was like, Oh, now I get it.

01:32:22.060 --> 01:32:26.340
It's like, so when you're hit with that profound truth, like the world doesn't work the way you

01:32:26.340 --> 01:32:32.440
thought, it's like, Oh my God, everything changed for me musically. So when I finally had the

01:32:32.440 --> 01:32:37.020
confidence to actually produce my own song, when I, when I, you know, was familiar with the,

01:32:37.020 --> 01:32:46.860
with the software, I made my very first conspiracy song in 2017. And that was about Flat Earth.

01:32:47.980 --> 01:32:53.780
And I wasn't that one. Well, it was called Flat Earth Man. That's it. Yeah. And it was,

01:32:53.820 --> 01:33:00.000
it was a story about me meeting a, well, it's, it's, it's a long story behind that.

01:33:00.280 --> 01:33:04.120
Mike Wilkerson was involved in that actually, because I remember talking to him about Flat

01:33:04.120 --> 01:33:08.600
Earth. And he was like, no way, bro, there's photographs and everything. And I'm like, yeah,

01:33:08.660 --> 01:33:13.780
but, you know, you, you can imagine that conversation. And that inspired me to write a song.

01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:17.100
You know, I met a man the other day. And this is written from his perspective,

01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:22.600
like he's meeting this guy who thinks the earth is flat. So the, and I just remember

01:33:22.600 --> 01:33:27.080
writing this poem into my phone saying, I met a man the other day who thought the earth was

01:33:27.080 --> 01:33:30.960
flat. I said, man, you must be crazy. Where the hell was your tin foil hat?

01:33:31.940 --> 01:33:37.900
But he spoke with such conviction and he believed the words he spoke. And something deep inside me

01:33:37.900 --> 01:33:41.720
knew this couldn't be a joke. But why would he believe this? Why believe such things? Because

01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:47.280
everybody knows the earth's a ball and that it spins. And, well, you must be pretty crazy if

01:33:47.280 --> 01:33:51.960
you think the earth is flat. And I can't remember the exact lyrics, but it was inspired by

01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:58.120
that conversation. And I wrote that poem into my phone. And I thought, well, I might as

01:33:58.120 --> 01:34:02.700
into a song now, but I wasn't comfortable delivering it as Alex Michael and just like

01:34:02.700 --> 01:34:07.980
singing a serious song. I thought, well, let's put a hat on and some shades and kind of do a country

01:34:07.980 --> 01:34:12.440
voice. And well, I met a man the other day who thought the earth was flat. And I delivered

01:34:12.440 --> 01:34:16.860
it that way in hiding behind the, hiding behind the character if you like, because I

01:34:16.860 --> 01:34:20.880
thought if my family's going to see this, then they can just dismiss it. I was just

01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:25.760
putting on a funny voice. He doesn't believe that stuff. He's just, you know,

01:34:26.380 --> 01:34:31.380
it's just a song. But of course it was my telling of my profound truth, my profound

01:34:31.380 --> 01:34:36.040
understanding that, holy crap, we've been lied to about where we live. And I'm putting into music,

01:34:36.160 --> 01:34:40.900
but not comfortable delivering it as, you know, Alex Michael. So I put on this character and it

01:34:40.900 --> 01:34:46.320
actually worked, you know, because I put that song out there and I kind of got an internet

01:34:46.320 --> 01:34:49.800
hug and a pat on the back and people are going more and more on call. And I ended up doing

01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:53.220
another one, right? Okay, let's do the moon landing. Let's do the photographs of earth.

01:34:53.220 --> 01:34:58.840
Let's do the ISS. And before I knew it, I was, I made a whole album about that about

01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:05.980
NASA and cosmology and all that sort of stuff. So it was only really 2016 that I got the

01:35:05.980 --> 01:35:11.840
confidence and I had enough bullet points to be able to go right. I have something to say now

01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:16.840
and I can put it into a song and I can play a bit of guitar. I can sing a little bit and I

01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:20.940
reckon I could make a song and I could like tell people about this stuff. I know, but

01:35:20.940 --> 01:35:25.520
hide behind this character. And I did that and people was like, people, so many people thought

01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:31.840
I was this Southerner from Texas or something. Exactly. Yeah. And it was a real compliment because

01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:35.680
people are like, holy shit, you're English. Yeah, yeah. We thought you was American. Well,

01:35:35.700 --> 01:35:40.620
thanks very much as a compliment, but I did this stereotypical kind of voice that was loud

01:35:40.620 --> 01:35:46.060
by the end. It's really animated and really was like way over the top. You know, it

01:35:46.060 --> 01:35:53.400
was too much television as a child, but that's how I hid behind, you know, that subject and

01:35:54.200 --> 01:36:01.520
that's how I chose to deliver it. It was like this transition between 2012 and 2016 of learning

01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:07.800
this stuff and then a point of being able to put it into music, you know, in terms of the

01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:11.920
software and ability and that. And I was like, right now I'm going to, I can't do any other

01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:16.860
music now. It's going to have to be this. Now I could, you know, just, you know, get it off my

01:36:16.860 --> 01:36:22.440
chest. And so yeah, it was 2012, the catalyst 9-11 that got me into it. And then I eventually got

01:36:22.440 --> 01:36:28.160
confident enough on the software that I was able to start making my first song and video,

01:36:28.260 --> 01:36:32.340
which the first video wasn't any green screen. It was just me just jumping around in studio.

01:36:32.340 --> 01:36:36.660
And then I found the wonders of green screen. It's like, holy crap, you telling me all I

01:36:36.660 --> 01:36:41.740
need is a green bit of cloth. And I could put any image I like behind me. Right. That just

01:36:41.740 --> 01:36:47.320
exploded my creativity. And then I'll have a point where I'm floating on the ISS in some of the videos.

01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:53.840
And I just, it really, you know, gave me this creative burst to just, just, just to get

01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:58.060
everything off my chest and comedically and having a lot of fun with it as well. So

01:36:58.060 --> 01:37:03.680
it's been a huge journey. And then there's all sorts of other topics that I've addressed

01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:08.260
in other videos and that. And I will continue to do it, I think, because once you know this stuff,

01:37:08.700 --> 01:37:14.620
I don't think you can stay silent. I think it's your duty to put it out there. You know,

01:37:14.700 --> 01:37:20.820
because I don't want to be on my deathbed going, I want to leave behind a little bit of a legacy

01:37:20.820 --> 01:37:27.100
and try and say that at least I tried, I tried to leave this apartment in a better

01:37:27.100 --> 01:37:32.220
condition than when I found it. You know, at least I can, you know, go to my deathbed

01:37:32.220 --> 01:37:36.860
going, yeah, remember them songs I made, you know, and millions of people saw them.

01:37:37.160 --> 01:37:42.060
And that's, you know, that will, I think, that'll give me some peace in my final days, I think.

01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:45.560
Amen. And that's spoken like a true king hero, by the way.

01:37:46.080 --> 01:37:47.280
Thank you. Thank you.

01:37:47.900 --> 01:37:50.880
Yeah, the duty, the legacy, the leave of better than you found it.

01:37:51.160 --> 01:37:53.600
Yeah. That's how I feel. That's genuinely how I feel.

01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:58.560
Yeah, that's amazing. And your buddy, Mike, our buddy, Mike is in the chat here.

01:37:58.920 --> 01:37:59.480
There he is.

01:37:59.480 --> 01:38:00.120
Hello.

01:38:00.940 --> 01:38:06.980
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. His ears were burning, Dawn. And a hello quietly content bear.

01:38:07.060 --> 01:38:10.020
Thank you for being here. And thanks for the, the truth bombs.

01:38:10.620 --> 01:38:16.580
Miss Elisa Eliza. Sorry if I'm missing. I met several Eliza Eliza's at the same time.

01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:18.460
It's I'm really confused now, I have to say.

01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:24.940
Just how that went. And yeah, I love that. The accent, of course, I just have to say

01:38:25.480 --> 01:38:28.320
how surprising it was to know you are you from Sussex?

01:38:28.320 --> 01:38:31.600
Is that, I think I've heard you say you have a Sussex kind of accent.

01:38:32.660 --> 01:38:37.160
Essex is different. Essex, yeah. Essex is about 20 miles northeast of London.

01:38:37.280 --> 01:38:41.140
So it's like a London overspill. So I have a London accent and I drop my teas and

01:38:41.140 --> 01:38:45.140
occasionally I might use some rhyming slang. I don't, not so much since I've been in Spain,

01:38:45.240 --> 01:38:49.880
but in the UK, I would use that a little bit. And yeah, we're very common people.

01:38:50.940 --> 01:38:54.120
Well, it's not to us, right? Like that. That's a fancy accent.

01:38:54.120 --> 01:38:58.740
And then I noticed how I would say the Beatles and all of the European bands,

01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:05.380
they don't sound like they're from London or and you started to explain that.

01:39:05.460 --> 01:39:07.640
Do you want to talk about that? How that ended up being like

01:39:08.860 --> 01:39:10.980
how do you choose an accent when you sing?

01:39:11.900 --> 01:39:16.400
It's weird. It's yeah. I mean, I don't know why people adopt this accent when they sing.

01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:21.140
A lot of English singers, when they start singing, they will start to sound American

01:39:21.140 --> 01:39:24.960
for whatever. I don't know. There seems to be, I don't know. It's very, very strange,

01:39:25.060 --> 01:39:29.920
like Adele, for instance, when she talks, she talks like that. She's a proper Londoner

01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:33.680
and she's like really brash and she's like, it's horrible to listen to.

01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:41.900
But when she's singing, she's like, hello. It's like, hold on. Where did that come from?

01:39:43.540 --> 01:39:48.600
We all do it. We're all guilty of doing it. I mean, I've sung in so many different

01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:53.280
accents and different styles. I have the ability to choose. If I'm doing a reggae song,

01:39:53.740 --> 01:39:58.840
well, I can do a reggae song, man. I can sing like this and I can sing like I've got this

01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:04.620
ability to choose a particular sound. Or if I'm if I want to sound more, I don't know,

01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:09.140
more black, if you like, I can do like I don't know. I don't want to do a range of voices,

01:40:09.160 --> 01:40:14.280
but I can do accents and I can do a rock voice. I can just really reach and find those

01:40:14.280 --> 01:40:18.540
those frequencies, if you like. I can find the anger that's required for a rock song,

01:40:18.640 --> 01:40:23.180
or I can find the subtlety that's required for a love song. I have that ability.

01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:29.500
But it's just, I have these different accents or different tonalities that I have access to,

01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:34.020
like a little library that, okay, this song requires that. None of it's really my own voice.

01:40:34.100 --> 01:40:41.120
If I was to sing in my own voice, it would sound terrible. It just wouldn't sound maybe

01:40:41.120 --> 01:40:45.520
if I was to, you know, I don't know if that would work or not. But when people sing, they're not,

01:40:46.180 --> 01:40:51.380
I don't know. I don't really know what my own sound is, really, because I'm always going,

01:40:51.480 --> 01:40:56.560
this song's a reggae song. Let's put a little reggae twang on it. You know, so if you're

01:40:56.560 --> 01:41:03.660
singing about the nation, you'll be, I would phrase it as the nearsion. Like, it's like,

01:41:03.780 --> 01:41:08.300
there's just certain little flex that will just make, you know, the song sound a little

01:41:08.300 --> 01:41:15.740
bit like more like the original or it would sound better that way. If I sang a rock song

01:41:16.660 --> 01:41:21.480
with this voice, as I'm talking to you now, it would sound terrible. So I think we all

01:41:21.480 --> 01:41:26.520
just step into a different character when we're singing like Adele's a good example of that.

01:41:26.940 --> 01:41:31.100
And I think we all do it, really. I don't know why we do it. It just,

01:41:31.620 --> 01:41:36.720
I just like to mold into the song and choose a voice for that song. And I just, I like

01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:43.500
having the ability to do that. That's amazing. Now, your voice, to me, I would characterize

01:41:43.500 --> 01:41:50.640
as incredibly unaffected. But obviously I'm not hearing from the accent side. There's

01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:56.700
something else, you know, when it ends up, people's voice ends up sounding fake. Or

01:41:57.270 --> 01:42:04.020
it can be processing also in the studio, but it's affected. It's again kind of persona

01:42:04.020 --> 01:42:09.160
a little bit. Maybe it's the emotion behind it or something. So even though you're using so many

01:42:09.160 --> 01:42:15.100
different accents, it comes across as very straight in a good way.

01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:19.620
There's a lot of processing that goes on in the music industry, you know, because there's

01:42:19.620 --> 01:42:23.680
so many different techniques. I've used them sometimes. But if you really want to get,

01:42:23.820 --> 01:42:28.620
see, this is why I'm gravitating more towards a more acoustic sound these days,

01:42:28.620 --> 01:42:35.480
because you can get a real natural raw sound with two acoustic guitars and a voice that can

01:42:35.480 --> 01:42:40.400
actually be more profound and rather than the big production sound where you're having,

01:42:40.580 --> 01:42:44.360
you're doubling up the vocals and you're putting harmonies and there's so much processing that

01:42:44.360 --> 01:42:48.260
goes into it. And that's what all of our pop music is. So much process. Let's go listen to

01:42:48.260 --> 01:42:52.540
a Taylor Swift song. It's just like stripped down her raw vocal. It won't sound anything

01:42:52.540 --> 01:42:56.500
like that. But I'm now a big fan of, you know, just an acoustic guitar and a vocal

01:42:56.500 --> 01:43:01.800
and a good vocal or a good harmony. A good example of that is actually

01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:07.780
more than words by Extreme. Massive, massive song. It was just a gone acoustic guitar

01:43:07.780 --> 01:43:15.060
and one song and one singer and one harmony. It was a beautiful song, albeit in 440. But

01:43:15.060 --> 01:43:20.620
songs like that, I think I'm gravitating more to the more natural sound, the more sort of

01:43:20.620 --> 01:43:25.460
MTV unplugged era where there used to be talent. You know, if you've ever seen the

01:43:25.460 --> 01:43:31.160
MTV unplugged series where like Alanis Morissette or Nirvana or Eric Clapton, big fan of that set was

01:43:31.160 --> 01:43:37.980
amazing. So the unplugged, the natural sound, the, you know, the less processed, the, you know,

01:43:38.040 --> 01:43:43.820
not harmony pedals and chorus pedals and reverb pedals and, you know, doubling and all of that

01:43:43.820 --> 01:43:48.300
processing that goes into it. It's more bastardization, really. But I think you can get

01:43:48.300 --> 01:43:52.180
something really pure out of just something very magical. And it's happened at my house

01:43:52.180 --> 01:43:56.180
many, many times where we've had people back at my house and there's a couple of guys and we just

01:43:56.180 --> 01:44:00.980
pick up acoustic guitars and we play and we sing and it's just something about the acoustic guitar.

01:44:01.080 --> 01:44:03.860
We can just pick it up. You don't have to plug it in. You don't have to go, oh,

01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:06.960
can we have a little bit less gain on that? Can you, you know, can you turn the reverb up or

01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:11.960
the more bass and you just pick up the guitar and go? There's something very raw and beautiful

01:44:11.960 --> 01:44:16.740
about that. So that's why a lot of my stuff on my channel now is like more acoustic and just

01:44:17.900 --> 01:44:23.200
well thought out and nice harmonies and just pure. And I think there's something,

01:44:23.400 --> 01:44:27.980
I want to take music back to that, you know, actually remove the processing. Yes,

01:44:28.080 --> 01:44:35.500
I put a bit of reverb on there. But that should be all you need, shouldn't it, really?

01:44:37.280 --> 01:44:41.640
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not even against it. I'm just really hungry to hear that

01:44:42.120 --> 01:44:48.200
authentic voice, that unprocessed, not even unprocessed, because it's all going to come through

01:44:48.200 --> 01:44:52.160
something. If you were to leave it completely alone, you wouldn't like the sound either,

01:44:52.240 --> 01:44:56.800
because it's come through those electronics and I don't know, flattens or deadens. You do need

01:44:56.800 --> 01:45:02.760
some reverb, like you need to make it warm. But yeah, there's just something I can tell

01:45:02.760 --> 01:45:07.100
the difference. I don't care how talented you are. I've seen many, many incredibly

01:45:07.100 --> 01:45:14.040
intelligent musicians, singers, and they're technically right on and very good in their

01:45:14.040 --> 01:45:22.280
ability. But there's something, it's like it's... Sometimes I would rather have a great song

01:45:22.280 --> 01:45:29.660
with a really shit recording, rather than a great song with all this processing. I've

01:45:29.660 --> 01:45:34.940
been following people on Facebook, there's a guy, he's clearly a country guy, he's got his

01:45:34.940 --> 01:45:39.240
overalls on, he's sitting in a boat and he's just the best songwriter I've ever heard.

01:45:39.520 --> 01:45:44.060
He just knows how to tell a story and the quality is not great, he's just a guy with a...

01:45:44.060 --> 01:45:50.260
But my God, is it so captivating because you're just captivated by the rawness of it,

01:45:50.660 --> 01:45:54.460
because he's telling a story and you don't... The quality of it kind of goes out the

01:45:54.460 --> 01:45:57.900
window at that point. You're just listening to a guy on a guitar, telling a story about

01:45:57.900 --> 01:46:04.060
a girl he met in a bar and it's just like... I think there's a beauty to that.

01:46:04.060 --> 01:46:09.500
I agree totally. And Steve is saying that you use your real voice when you guys sing together

01:46:09.500 --> 01:46:13.220
and they are your songs in your style. Yeah, those are some of my all-time favorites.

01:46:13.240 --> 01:46:16.260
That's what he thinks, but what he doesn't realize is I'm putting on a voice that...

01:46:16.260 --> 01:46:19.340
No, I'm not putting on... That is actually the real me, to be fair, yeah.

01:46:19.720 --> 01:46:22.840
When I work with real musicians and good musicians, the real me comes out.

01:46:23.120 --> 01:46:28.520
There's only a few songs where I actually use my real voice, which is just me singing from

01:46:28.520 --> 01:46:32.720
the heart. But if I want to put a little inflection of reggae there, or if I want to

01:46:32.720 --> 01:46:37.600
put a rap and I want to sound more street, more urban, more London, I can do that.

01:46:37.880 --> 01:46:41.900
And I've done that with Steve. Actually, I did a rap in a song with Steve where I kind of

01:46:42.420 --> 01:46:46.580
go a little bit more urban in that. But I have that ability to do that. I have like a little

01:46:46.580 --> 01:46:51.200
selection of things I could choose from if I want them. So that's quite a nice thing to have.

01:46:51.700 --> 01:46:55.900
Nice. Yeah, it's like a color's painters in the palette. You got this color and that color

01:46:55.900 --> 01:47:00.220
and you can draw... It doesn't take away from the authenticity to me at all.

01:47:00.580 --> 01:47:04.960
Jon, really put my finger on... It's probably that intangible thing that you just can't simply

01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:10.760
describe. It's nice not to be pigeonholed into... If I was signed to a label, for instance, and

01:47:10.760 --> 01:47:18.140
they would put me in this box of, you can only sing these types of songs. And I don't want to do

01:47:18.140 --> 01:47:22.440
that. I want to go, oh, do you know what? I'm angry today. I want to do a rock song. Or

01:47:23.180 --> 01:47:29.420
I could do something in my full set, which would make it more beautiful or more chill

01:47:29.420 --> 01:47:36.580
or whatever. So I like to be able to experiment with all sorts of genres. And thankfully, I didn't

01:47:36.580 --> 01:47:45.680
sell myself. Yeah, brilliant. And what's recognition like for you? Did you go from a time where you

01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:50.180
felt like you didn't have that too when you did? Yeah, that's a great question. That's a great

01:47:50.180 --> 01:47:57.500
one. Yeah, I never got any recognition as a child. Me neither. Yeah, it's one of my

01:47:58.860 --> 01:48:04.340
frustrations. It's like, I don't know, I have all sorts of issues with my childhood,

01:48:04.520 --> 01:48:10.140
but we won't go there. It's not a therapy session. But when I started putting this music out there,

01:48:10.700 --> 01:48:15.960
I started to get the recognition that I was starved of as a child, I feel. And I was getting

01:48:15.960 --> 01:48:19.440
that internet hug that I talked about earlier and that little pat on the back. And it was

01:48:19.440 --> 01:48:24.660
something I really, really needed and wanted. And that's what spurred me on to do more

01:48:24.660 --> 01:48:30.460
people recognizing what I do. And I try and do as many different things in many different genres.

01:48:30.660 --> 01:48:36.620
I still think I've got so much more to offer. And there's going to be a lot more coming out where

01:48:36.620 --> 01:48:41.520
people go, oh, I didn't realize he could do that. So it's just like a nice little journey where

01:48:41.520 --> 01:48:45.540
people are giving me this pat on the back. It's really nice to get a pat on the back,

01:48:45.680 --> 01:48:52.580
an internet hug. It's really nice to get those messages and to know that you're reaching

01:48:52.580 --> 01:48:56.400
people and touching people. And my family couldn't see it and they will never see it.

01:48:56.820 --> 01:49:01.740
They don't understand me. They will never understand why I do what I do. It's a crying shame.

01:49:02.220 --> 01:49:06.880
They couldn't see it. And that's really, really frustrating. If it was frustrating for me,

01:49:06.940 --> 01:49:11.400
I've let it go now quite a lot now. Because it's now been replaced with people that do

01:49:11.400 --> 01:49:16.160
see it, that people that do get it and understand why I sit in this studio for

01:49:16.160 --> 01:49:21.240
hours and hours a day, why I do do what I do. Because it has that effect. And I get that

01:49:21.240 --> 01:49:31.000
recognition now. It's not a fuel for what I do. But it's really nice to get those nice comments.

01:49:31.300 --> 01:49:37.120
So I'm getting the recognition now. And that's a beautiful thing. I feel a little bit more complete.

01:49:38.240 --> 01:49:44.440
That's amazing. Yeah, there's two extremes, one where people can't be okay without the

01:49:44.440 --> 01:49:49.340
love and approval of others. But then there's also that we can't create in a vacuum.

01:49:49.860 --> 01:49:55.820
If you can't, you can sit and do all the best work all day alone. But if it's not

01:49:55.820 --> 01:50:01.320
for the sake of connection, there's no purpose in it. It's not, you can't just

01:50:01.320 --> 01:50:04.880
fill yourself up that way. It doesn't work that way. It's the hero's journey,

01:50:05.480 --> 01:50:13.420
bringing the elixir. And then yeah, so I mean, my life fell on deaf ears for many,

01:50:13.420 --> 01:50:20.320
many years until I was like post cancer, actually, that finally, then it's like, well,

01:50:20.340 --> 01:50:26.640
what do I have to lose? Life is short, better spend it with people who maybe see me and have

01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:31.260
some recognition, not so they can blow the smoke up my butt and make me feel good about myself

01:50:31.260 --> 01:50:36.020
when I really feel bad, but just so that we can be with our people. Absolutely.

01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:46.200
Being amongst your own is so vital, I think. I've learned to let go of those things that

01:50:46.200 --> 01:50:50.260
are holding me back. My family doesn't get me. My family doesn't understand me,

01:50:50.320 --> 01:50:54.820
these people, and I've drifted away from that. What I have found is this whole new world of

01:50:54.820 --> 01:51:00.400
people that do understand me, that do get me. 80 people came to my villa a few months ago,

01:51:00.820 --> 01:51:05.680
and it was to being surrounded by all of these wonderful people. The vibe was incredible,

01:51:05.680 --> 01:51:13.240
and I realized that these are my people, these are my family. And I bloody love that.

01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:17.940
Yeah, yeah. That's our birthright. We need that.

01:51:18.780 --> 01:51:22.120
Starved of that. We've all been starved of that. We've all been so misunderstood,

01:51:22.120 --> 01:51:26.320
haven't we, for so many years with family. And it's just like, you know,

01:51:26.380 --> 01:51:31.120
I'm the black sheep. In fact, my rock album is called Black Sheep, and there's a track on

01:51:31.120 --> 01:51:34.940
there called Black Sheep about being the black sheep of the family, just never fitting in

01:51:34.940 --> 01:51:40.800
that square peg in a round hole. And then finally, you know, finding my people.

01:51:42.180 --> 01:51:46.720
You know, that's a beautiful, and inviting them to my house was another weird thing.

01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:53.680
But yeah, so I feel really vindicated and accepted and appreciated and recognized now.

01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:58.620
And that is only going to make me want to do more, isn't it?

01:51:59.080 --> 01:52:04.100
Right, exactly. I know, because I can get some backlash or, you know, negative feedback

01:52:04.100 --> 01:52:09.140
here or there, which is not very common anymore, just because I vet my audience pretty good.

01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:13.840
I'm very myself. So people get turned off with that, and that's perfect. They just,

01:52:13.980 --> 01:52:21.060
they're just not there. And so yeah, the more you can get out and reveal yourself, the better

01:52:21.660 --> 01:52:26.560
they can recognize you. If you're, this is one of the shadows of the alchemist archetype is

01:52:26.560 --> 01:52:32.000
more hiding behind things and not showing your true self, and then you can't be found.

01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:36.320
Right, so it's very difficult to to have a tribe that way.

01:52:37.120 --> 01:52:42.940
Yeah, no, I love where I am now. And, you know, long may it continue and long may it blossom

01:52:42.940 --> 01:52:48.400
and long may it grow. And I'm finding I'm finding a community even here in Spain,

01:52:48.400 --> 01:52:53.220
you know, our little cult, as Mike likes to call it, just people under the same,

01:52:53.440 --> 01:52:56.560
you know, people with the same understanding, it's growing and growing and growing.

01:52:57.340 --> 01:53:02.520
I've been here 10 years, but finally, you know, I'm finding my tribe locally and online as well.

01:53:02.820 --> 01:53:07.840
And once I get my visa issues sorted, I'll be attending more conferences and performing at

01:53:07.840 --> 01:53:13.700
more conferences as well. Because this is my thing now, you know, amongst people that I love,

01:53:13.880 --> 01:53:18.000
respect them, people that love and respect me, it's a whole new thing in my life. And it's

01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:26.240
glorious, you know, to be to be to be appreciated, you know, to be just to be recognized. It's a

01:53:26.240 --> 01:53:31.140
beautiful thing. So, yeah, I definitely want to do more of that once I get my my travel situation

01:53:31.140 --> 01:53:36.900
sorted. And but in the meantime, whilst I'm sort of bound to Spain for now, you know, I'm always

01:53:36.900 --> 01:53:42.380
making more music and just putting my thoughts, you know, into music and hoping that it will

01:53:42.380 --> 01:53:47.920
resonate with with people which seems to be doing, you know, so, you know, you know,

01:53:48.140 --> 01:53:54.620
long live the truth and long live truth music and conscious music. Amen, brother. I love it.

01:53:55.520 --> 01:54:02.240
So if there was a song to play out, what would you choose? I got your YouTube here. Now the

01:54:02.240 --> 01:54:07.800
problem is I'm a member, and I do recommend everyone go and become a member of this channel.

01:54:08.920 --> 01:54:13.840
But I don't want to play anything that's going to be out of your bounds. So is there

01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:19.860
something that you could recommend? What do you mean out of my bounds? I can play

01:54:19.860 --> 01:54:24.600
something that's members only? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And what do you think is the

01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:30.460
best? Oh, there's Steve with his mouth wide open. That's Steve's reaction to that video.

01:54:30.700 --> 01:54:33.380
Do you know what you wake up some day is very, very popular.

01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:41.060
We're going back a year or so. Keep going down, keep going, keep going, keep going,

01:54:41.120 --> 01:54:43.660
keep going, keep going, keep going. There to the right, to the right. Down a bit.

01:54:44.600 --> 01:54:50.500
Up a bit. Sorry. Up, up, up, up, up, up. One more. Up one more. There it is. There you

01:54:50.500 --> 01:54:56.120
wake up some day. Okay. That got a lot of traction. That's a great song. All right.

01:54:56.220 --> 01:54:58.880
Can you guys hear it? Yeah. Excellent.

01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:53.680
Better open your eyes, sir. They hate the same thing.

01:55:54.260 --> 01:56:00.360
You don't have either. And that's why you're down. They're never going to change

01:56:00.360 --> 01:56:10.320
all your heads in the ground. They don't want you going anywhere except six feet underground.

01:56:12.620 --> 01:56:21.240
I believe in those dawg lying wolves on the screen. Whose words you believe in those pockets

01:56:21.240 --> 01:56:29.480
are green or you're green with envy. You guess it's okay. I promise everybody else is getting

01:56:29.480 --> 01:56:39.520
stepped on the same way. You think you have freedom but you'll wake up some day.

01:56:41.360 --> 01:56:49.460
So they tax you and drug you and work you to death. They defeat you and cheat you until

01:56:49.460 --> 01:56:56.860
your last breath. They may poison your body and waste all your time. And they put on your

01:56:56.860 --> 01:57:05.740
strength to dissolve in your mind. You think you make choices but you're just

01:57:05.740 --> 01:57:17.080
last in line. They be churching you, schooling you, ruling you through, selling you, telling

01:57:17.080 --> 01:57:25.180
you it's good for you. They abuse you, confuse you and use you each day. Then they paralyze

01:57:25.180 --> 01:57:30.900
you, sterilize you. That's how they play. And you trust them, you lust them, do you

01:57:30.900 --> 01:57:36.660
anything they say? And they make you their pet because you signed your name away.

01:57:38.840 --> 01:57:46.740
You think you have freedom but you'll wake up some day. But still you play.

01:57:47.880 --> 01:57:55.660
Yes, you think you have freedom but you'll wake up some day. There's just no way.

01:57:59.060 --> 01:58:09.850
You think you have freedom but you'll wake up some day.

01:58:16.060 --> 01:58:20.060
Oh man, the harmonies. That just gets me right here. I tell you, the two of you guys,

01:58:20.360 --> 01:58:24.800
what a pure sound that is. And you might be muted because I had to mute you for your...

01:58:25.840 --> 01:58:28.600
Yeah, there you go. Now you can hear.

01:58:29.620 --> 01:58:33.420
Yeah, so beautiful. So beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all

01:58:33.420 --> 01:58:37.440
your music for this wonderful conversation. I'm getting a little bit chaste. I got

01:58:37.440 --> 01:58:40.520
someone who wants to come and fix my dishwasher and I'm going to need that.

01:58:41.820 --> 01:58:46.320
This is a really messy around here right now. Oh, I know the feeling. I know the

01:58:46.320 --> 01:58:51.480
feeling. We've had boiler problems today. Shelly took us, my wife took us a cold shower.

01:58:52.920 --> 01:58:57.060
Yeah, we've got, I'm decorating. I get it. I get it. Go tend to what you need to tend to.

01:58:58.000 --> 01:59:04.880
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So getting some good appreciation in the chat here. And I hope you

01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:10.720
have a beautiful rest of your holiday season. Thank you again for coming on and spreading your

01:59:10.720 --> 01:59:15.840
joy. It is kind of the solstice where we're at the shortest moments of the year here in the

01:59:15.840 --> 01:59:22.140
Northern Hemisphere at least. And so it's an auspicious day to do this. Thank you so much.

01:59:22.140 --> 01:59:25.660
It's been a total pleasure. I've enjoyed it thoroughly. Thank you.

01:59:25.820 --> 01:59:29.760
Good. Yeah, my pleasure. I do have a few announcements, but you're welcome to

01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:34.980
go or just stick around for that on the theme of creativity. I'm offering a new course starting

01:59:34.980 --> 01:59:41.580
in January on the 14th. And this is exactly the process that I use every time I get into

01:59:41.580 --> 01:59:47.100
a creative slump for one reason or another. If life knocks me around, which it has,

01:59:47.100 --> 01:59:53.120
it knocks me around fairly regularly. And I, you know, I've got the tools to heal and recover from

01:59:53.120 --> 01:59:58.920
that stuff, but it's always, okay, like, how am I going to come back into the world now after the

01:59:58.920 --> 02:00:05.840
world has come to an end? So I'm actually teaching the process of that. Now what I've used all my life

02:00:05.840 --> 02:00:11.400
to get back into a place of being truly inspired and creating from a place of freedom rather than

02:00:11.400 --> 02:00:18.300
fear. And so I'm excited to offer this 12-week course starting in January. And there's lots of

02:00:18.300 --> 02:00:23.520
great people signing up right now. The Early Bird is going to be on only for seven more days starting

02:00:23.520 --> 02:00:28.100
today. So the 29th, I'll be back here with Dr. Jacob Lieberman. If you've, I don't know if

02:00:28.100 --> 02:00:33.420
you've heard of him, Alex. He's a, he actually, he's an eye doctor and he got, he had a

02:00:33.420 --> 02:00:37.900
spontaneous awakening and is extremely smart. I don't think he's awake. He didn't wake

02:00:37.900 --> 02:00:44.000
up. He's a doctor. So it'll be like the first person I've hosted since 2020 that really didn't

02:00:44.000 --> 02:00:48.480
understand what's going on with that, but he's got enough. I can't wait to tune into that then.

02:00:48.580 --> 02:00:51.260
That's going to be an interesting conversation. I know, I know I'm going to have to be really

02:00:51.260 --> 02:00:55.940
delicate not to, not to call him out. You never know. I've been known to say. Oh, you'll

02:00:55.940 --> 02:01:02.540
smash it. Very good. And so if we're not already acquainted, it's best to come to my website,

02:01:02.960 --> 02:01:07.500
sign up to do a King Hero archetype quiz so that we're connected by email and not dependent

02:01:07.500 --> 02:01:12.360
on these platforms that do come and go. And I've lost an entire channel here already.

02:01:12.900 --> 02:01:18.060
I'm up on Spotify and iTunes. That's where you can go and find the oldest archives of everything

02:01:18.060 --> 02:01:23.100
and stuff I probably don't agree with at all anymore. Looks like I can't stream to X anymore.

02:01:23.620 --> 02:01:28.200
They, they fraudulently charged me $560 for something I didn't order. So I did a bank

02:01:28.200 --> 02:01:33.980
dispute and now they've instantly like canceled me. I can't, I can't live stream and

02:01:34.610 --> 02:01:39.640
yeah. So they don't like me anymore, but I just didn't want to pay that money. And

02:01:39.640 --> 02:01:44.740
I think that's all for now. So you can visit my website, Bathmartins.com for any information

02:01:45.260 --> 02:01:50.960
about my course coming up or anything else. And definitely go and visit HealingWithFrequencies.net

02:01:50.960 --> 02:01:56.960
and ConspiracyMusicGuru.com. Is that correct? That's correct. And the YouTube,

02:01:58.040 --> 02:02:04.340
um, here is the video that we just played by the way. So you can get a direct link to that.

02:02:04.940 --> 02:02:09.080
And I hope I can have you on again and meet you in person. Absolutely. Well,

02:02:09.100 --> 02:02:13.080
one day it will happen, I'm sure. Okay. Fantastic. Yeah. You, me and, and Steve,

02:02:13.180 --> 02:02:16.600
we're going to be doing some singing. I'll hold that in mind. Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait.

02:02:16.900 --> 02:02:19.920
Yeah. And I'll send you my music, by the way, as I think. Please do. Please do.

02:02:20.180 --> 02:02:23.940
Okay. All right. Well, everyone have a beautiful rest of your day. I am going to

02:02:23.940 --> 02:02:27.960
play us out with another piece by my son that he had.

02:02:31.780 --> 02:02:37.500
Sorry, that was too fast. I'm sure you're happy there. And yeah, shout out to him, Psycho. He's,

02:02:37.500 --> 02:02:42.720
he's got a job moving snow right now. So he's working around the clock and really industriously.

02:02:43.080 --> 02:02:46.860
So shout out to him. If he hears this, which I will, I will ask him to listen because

02:02:46.860 --> 02:02:51.300
it's interesting from the music side. Sure. All right, everyone. Thank you,

02:02:51.300 --> 02:02:56.660
Alex, and have a beautiful rest of your day. Everyone else as well. Okay. Bye for now. Bye.

02:02:57.080 --> 02:02:57.280
Bye.