and welcome to the King Heroes Journey podcast. My name is Beth Martens, and I wore my leather jacket
today in the great honor of Alex Michael coming on Conspiracy Music Guru. Super, super excited for
this conversation. It's been a while in the coming. I'm not sure what took me so long to ask.
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popular character and album Flat Earth Man, to instrumental healing music with his album's
true Sulfeggio Volume 1, 2, and I believe 3 is coming. His latest album entitled Black Sheep
utilizes rock, while the album Unplug has a more natural, softer acoustic sound to convey the
truth-filled messages. So you can find reviews of his Sulfeggio recordings here, very extensive.
I'm going to drop this link in the chat and it's in the notes below as well.
And he's got a number of websites. So the one that you're seeing on the screen,
healingfrequencies.net is more obviously related to the healing frequencies. And here is another
one of his regular websites, or not regular websites, but Conspiracy Music Guru websites.
And without further ado, I will let you know that I am bringing Alex on right now.
Hello and welcome, Alex.
Thanks for having me on. I'm glad our paths finally crossed. As you can see, I'm also dressed
like a rock star tonight with my leather jacket. And I want to say, yeah, what took you so long,
Beth? Come on. I don't know. I don't know. I think I reached out to you once and I
wasn't successful. And I thought, oh, it means he's too big or I'm not big enough for him
yet. No, nothing to do with that. It's to do with my own confidence, really. I get asked a lot and
I usually go, oh, do you know what? If they really want me on, then they'll ask me again. And I will
usually wait for someone to ask like two or three times. Because as I said before we came on,
I'm not this confident talking head. I like to use music to communicate through, rather than,
because I feel like every time I have a conversation like this or an interview,
it's like a spotlight. It's shining on me. I must say something intelligent. But really,
at the end of the day, I'm just a working class bloke from Essex who picked up a guitar,
also found some truth and decided to put those truths into music. What I didn't realise is that
people, that that would resonate with people and people would want to then talk to the man
behind the music. I wasn't quite prepared for that. But here I've said absolutely nothing
to do with what you are. I've seen you, we're friends on Facebook and I've seen you do the
rounds and you've had discussions with many of my good friends, Dawn Lester, Steve Faulkner,
Mike Wilkerson, all good friends of mine. So I was thinking, I wonder how long it's going to be
before we cross paths. So anyway, here we are. But it's got nothing to do with it. Hey, it's me,
not you. That's fun. And I actually do have a policy when somebody doesn't respond once,
I'll always make a second and sometimes a third approach. And then by then I'm going,
okay, I'll get the message here. Yeah, it's probably good to send. I do remember the
first message you sent and maybe I was just like too busy at the time. You know, I'm just a little
bit. So yeah, it's not you, it's me. But yeah, I'm glad you reached out a second time because
otherwise this wouldn't have happened. And do you know what, this interview I've been,
if you want to call it an interview, I've actually been really looking forward to
having it actually a little bit nervous as well. So you know, I resonate with you. Let's put it that
way. Oh, that's so nice. Yeah. And I find you incredibly coherent. And that's at the level
of sound first before I actually had more of an idea of what was going on in your life,
in your mind and that kind of thing. So it's beautiful. I've always tuned in with voices
from my earliest days of listening to music to me. I wouldn't hear lyrics. I didn't even
know what a guitar sound was. I didn't understand that there was this whole arrangement of music
going on. All I paid attention to was the voice. And so that was a big discovery. I'm like, oh,
that's a guitar. All right, I play that. I'm completely the other way around. I'm terrible
with lyrics. I never listen to lyrics and lyrics are just this thing that happens to be on top of
the music. I'm listening to all the composition, all the guitar, I'm thinking what instrument,
what chords are being played. And that's the thing that fascinates me is all the music that's
going on. The lyrics kind of get in the way. And with the solfeggio stuff. That's why the
solfeggio stuff has kind of been, quote, unquote, my most successful albums because there's no
lyrics to get in the way. It knows no language barrier. So someone in China can enjoy those
albums. So for me, the music came first with that. And I'm terrible at remembering
lyrics of songs. I'm one of those people that get all the lyrics wrong. Because I'm never
concentrating on the lyrics. It's all about the music first. So I guess we look at music in
totally different ways. Well, interestingly, I never heard the lyrics either, only the tone
of the voice. So just like you, I didn't learn the words. I faked my way through them so I
could sing. But I never cared about the words. And then, lo and behold, so many of the lyrics
are paired up. Like beautiful, amazing music is paired up with lyrics that actually really
degrade consciousness. So I was strategically blocking it.
Yeah. And I suppose most of us do. They do get in the way, some of the lyrics, I think.
But yeah, so the instrumental stuff, I think, why isn't there more of that around? Because
my Sulfedio stuff has had profound effects on a lot of people. You know, I put the albums out there
just as an experiment. Because I learned about these Sulfedio healing frequencies from a guy by
the name of Jamie Buter of B-U-T, B-U-T-U-R-F-B-U-R-F. And this is an experiment. I put those
frequencies that he was talking about. The ancient Sulfedio frequency, and I infused them
and embedded them into some instrumental tracks and just put them out there as an experiment.
And the feedback that I got, which I never asked for, I didn't say please do,
I just started getting these messages with people having profound healing effects and spiritual
effects and people being cured of arthritis and sleep apnea and sleep paralysis and insomnia
and children being calm and pets being calm. And it's like, there's something about this kind
of instrumental music. It's just like, it's almost like the lyrics and the words get in the
way. Why can't more music be like this? It's like, I'm trying to do the polar opposite
of what the controllers of this world want musically. Because if you listen to the music
that's out there, it's absolutely awful rap music. People like Cardi B singing about a vagina
and rap music and gun culture and drugs and hose and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Let alone all the stuff that was coming out of the 60s and all that culture creation and
social engineering. And it's like, that's not really music. And it's been so bastardized
from what I now understand. It's been just everything from core progression to lyrical
content to the frequencies that are put into it to the back masking and everything. It's just like,
when you zoom out and see music as the whole, and you just see it for what it is, it's so
lower minded. It's not the higher minded classical music that we had 100 years ago,
where music would take these, you know, peaks and troughs and taking on a musical journey.
And they were mostly instrumental and you could really lose yourself in those musical pieces
that went on for 20, 40 minutes. And now we have the three minute pop songs with, you know,
the three chords, you know, the blues music, you know, selling yourself to the devil, that
whole thing like that. All the Beatles music and all the country music, all of that. It's just
like music has been so utterly bastardized now. And I see it now to the point where
if I'm in the car and I turn the radio on and there's this and I have to turn it off
because I know the agendas behind it. So I'm trying to do the polar opposite of that.
I'm not saying that I'm doing it correctly, but doing it as far as I'm concerned in the right
frequency instrumental with the right intent. And it seems to have a profound impact on the
listener. So I've so I've learned. That's brilliant. Yeah, I love it. So many things
I want to respond to there. When 2020 hit and the gauntlet was off, I'd been awake for
since 2015, 16. And I'm just like, Okay, that's it. No more. I can't hold my tongue
anymore. I broadcasted and I lost everything in the process, gained everything in the process too
over time. And I just stopped listening to music entirely. I did have favorite bands and artists
and things, you know, you just want background or I want to sing along. That's always my thing.
I just want to sing. And I couldn't anymore. I was I couldn't put it on because I was
Mark Devlin instrumental in this was his work instrumental in your mindset towards like
recent music, a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I'm a I can be a skimmer. I just come and
take a little bit here, take a little bit there. But I it was more I could finally perceive it,
the engineering, the manipulation, the, you know, the mix, it's trauma based
mind control, because they're, they're right there in hand or they're romancing your soul
with the beauty. And then all this crap comes in while you're all, oh, la, la, la, la. Yeah,
there's all the crap that you don't even know exists in there, you know, they could be, you
know, just in the same way that I could put healing frequencies into music with the right
intent. Well, I could the dark forces in this world can do the exact opposite, the polar
opposite. And it seems to be what's happening, you know, with certain synth sounds and,
you know, certain back masking and frequencies, you know, let alone the four four we
hurts, let alone the compression that we are now subject to when you put a song on
YouTube or iTunes or Spotify or whatever or any of these streaming platforms,
then they compressed the shit out of the music and they you it removes 90% of the
audio information. I had an email today actually from a friend and a fan of mine
who wanted to do some relaxation and she knew about myself, Fegio. So she listened to
those albums on my YouTube channel and she she'd listened to them before and had
a profound impact and had some really nice relaxation experiences out. But she said,
Oh, just for just the ease, I'll put it on YouTube and I put the headphones in. And
she said it didn't have the same impact. She said, I'm sure YouTube is growing with
the frequencies. And I said, No, they're not altering the frequencies
of the music, but they are compressing it. And she said she then went off to
listen to the uncompressed full quality WAV files from my website. And she had a
completely different experience. He said only then that she did she have the
relaxing experience that she was after. So it's very interesting that these platforms
are compressing the music and removing 90% of the audio information. So everywhere you
turn, even on your favorite Spotify, you know, where you can get billions and
billions of songs with just 10 bucks a month, it's it's you listen to shit,
you're listening to absolute crap, I'm afraid, you know, you're all the
good audio information is removed, it's tuned to 440 hertz. And I think
that's probably a big problem in this world. I mean, if all the music that was
released was recorded in 432 with the right intention, and, you know, and these
dark overlords not praying over the master in their little, you know, in their
studios and all the dark stuff that I've looked into music could really
change the world. But unfortunately, we're subject to this crap.
Indeed. Yeah. And that's exactly how hard someone told me don't say our
controllers anymore. But those guys, that's exactly how they work. They take
a good thing and they turn it upside down. So it's done it with everything,
haven't they? They've done it with the information, they've done it with health,
they've done it with education, they've done it with the very air we breathe,
the food we eat, they've done it with everything. So why not music,
the thing that we love the most. So of course, it's going to be one of the
things that of their go-tos that, you know, this thing could be
spiritually transforming. Of course, they're going to attack that and it
seems that they have and with very, they've been very successful at it, it seems.
Yeah, indeed. That's the romance side of things. I just wanted to go back a little
for you to a couple of points to also around classical music. And it's funny,
when you talk about the instrumental, that's priceless for me because I like to write.
I like to, well, when I work, I use my mind and I cannot have lyrical music.
It's just my mind goes to the tone of that voice. And that's what I'm here
in the way. It gets in the way. And then if there's any, you know, ideas that now do get
in through the lyrics, I'll be thinking on those. And so yeah, the instrumental is good.
The classical music is, I grew up on that. So that was a little bit in my blood and my
bones and my parents would drag us to a symphony now and again. And I actually
didn't like it, but I did learn to like it one day when I was driving along.
And I just started playing with singing to it. You're not supposed to sing to it.
I'm going to sing to your stuff, by the way, when I have some spare time.
Okay, great.
Yeah, I'm going to do that. And I love singing to the unsingable because you find
really interesting ways to interact at a vocal level. I'm curious,
do you like classical music, first of all? Is it something that you would put on for pleasure?
It is now. I didn't used to, but when I realized how much music has been
bastardized, and I realized the further back you go, the less bastardization you see with music.
And I started to, you know, just listen to some classical music in 432 Hertz and I started
subscribing to a lot of 432 Hertz classical channels on YouTube. Yes, the music is compressed and
blah, blah, blah, but I just wanted to see how it resonated with me. And I was actually
quite shocked at the intellect that lies within classical music. Now I even have a
favorite piece. It's Rachmaninoff's second piano concerto. It goes on for 40 minutes.
It's the most, I mean, it's astounding. It's absolutely incredible how somebody could come
up with such intellect and high-mindedness when it comes to just core progressions and just,
it blows my mind. You'll never see anything like that in today's, you know, pop music.
So, and there's no literally, like you say, the lyrics get, I often wonder like,
should music just be music? Why are we putting, why are we shouting over it?
Why are we singing over it? Why are we getting in the way of it? Maybe music should just be
instrumental. Maybe we should be resonating with the, with the violin and then, you know,
some of those, you know, violin solos or piano solos can really, really move you to a point
of tears. And you know, if you start putting lyrics over that, if someone started to sing
over Rachmaninoff or God forbid rap, I mean, it would just take on a whole different
meaning, wouldn't it? So I often wonder whether, you know, lyrics on top of music is a bastardization
of music in itself. So to answer the question, yeah, I never used to be a classical music fan.
I just thought it was just, I was weird. It just, just, but now I get it. I get why
intelligent people listen to classical music, particularly in four, three, two hertz and
unbassadize and uncompressed. If you're listening to, you know, Verdi, Verdi was a, was a,
was a four, three, two hertz guy. And so if you're listening to Verdi and four, three, two hertz
uncompressed, then, you know, then you can probably, you know, really appreciate what music can do
for you. And I'm trying to do something similar to that. I don't think I have the ability yet
to put together an orchestra and things like that. I don't have the, the, the budget for
that or the space, but I could probably do it digitally, but, but I think that's where music
needs to go. We need to go back to that uncompressed four, three, two hertz, instrumental, even longer
pieces, like the three or four minute, five minute pieces are just like, and it's like an insult
on intelligence, really. It's, it's, it's reducing attention span, I think. I think that's
why the three minute pop song was invented. And I think that's why classical music can go
on for 20 minutes, 40 minutes, because it requires your attention. And it's been bastardized on so
many levels, but yeah, I'm slowly starting to appreciate classical music more because I know
that's for the, the more higher minded, but we've been, we've been beaten down with this,
with this four, 43 minute pop song and catchy chorus for so many years. It's almost hard
to break out of that programming. Indeed. Yeah. I heard you talk a little bit about
the attention span. That's, there's some good, good people and questions coming up in the chat
that I'll turn to next, but yeah, that attention span of a knit. I actually refuse to spend
time on TikTok because it's exactly that. It's, you know, it's the, and it's so
emptying when you go and you scroll through and, and, you know, you can end up with
a huge TikTok following, but nobody engages with you because they're just doing this.
Right. So it's, it's not, I don't know that. Yeah. That's a, a waste of time.
TikTok is not a place for ruckmunning off, is it?
Not so much. Not so much. I'm going to go look up that concerto actually.
If you forget, I'll send it to you. It's outstanding. It's just like, it's,
it's what music should be. Yeah. Yeah. I remember the name well. So I'm,
I'm sure I'm going to recognize that. So heavy metal musicians are often classically
trained. Did you ever get into that genre at all? You obviously have the rock sound
as part of your, your power. Before I was more awake to music. Yeah. I love,
I mean, anyone that picks up a guitar, the first thing they want to do is play a power
chord. They want to plug it into a distortion pedal and play. Oh, by the way,
compliments on your son's playing in the intro. That was outstanding. Reminds me a lot of Hendrix
and Steve Vibe. Brilliant playing, by the way. Thank you. Yeah. Very good. He's only young,
isn't he? He's going to be 19 in a few days. Yeah. I already hate him. I see so many young
players coming through that are just absolutely brilliant. There's a guy called Mateo Mancuso.
He's playing in Spain. I hope to go and see him. He's not even 30. He's probably the best
guitar player in the world. I'm like, it makes me want to throw all my guitars
into the bin. Sorry. What was the question? I complete you. Oh, it was just about heavy metal.
And I was asking for my son's sake because he listens. He doesn't, he's not a headbanger. He
hates headbangers. He doesn't want to be with those people. He's listening for tech, technical,
the, you know, the technician side of things. And I've been on some road trips where he
just keeps sampling me through his heavy metal. And it's pretty intense, but
it's, I totally, like, I'm never going to say, no, don't listen to that. And he'll warn me, like,
hey, these lyrics are really weird, but this is what I like about it. And yeah. I think it's
a necessary process for him. I think he has to go through that rock. I mean, if I was to
advise him in any way, I would say, yeah, enjoy the rock, but for the love of God, tune it
432 at least. Because then all the, when you're distorting a guitar, what the distortion is
actually doing is giving you more overtones and more undertones. It's giving you a bigger sound.
You want those overtones and undertones to be, how can I say, to be more mathematically spaced
and whole number ratios in 432. You get that. So you get a better sound. And I do think you'll
get a more of a healing sound. The rock music that we have in 440, like, take metallic, I used to
be a massive Metallica fan, went to see them. And now I recognize that for what it is, of course.
So I've kind of, you know, keep that at arm's length, but I did love that stuff. Now, I just
wonder if, you know, you were to take that, those power chords and put them in 432. And I've
done a whole rock album in 432 words. I think it, a lot of people say 440 is more aggressive.
So if you want the aggression, then tune to 440. Well, there's a reason why so many
teenagers that listen to rock music eight hours a day like Metallica or, you know, name your rock
band, there's a reason why they're so aggressive. There's a reason why they're so irresponsible.
There's a reason why they're so moody and grumpy. It's because they listen to this harsh,
harsh rock guitars in 440. I would suggest tune it to 432. You might have a little
experience. You might actually be able to talk to your child. You know, I think that, you know,
it could be that profound. Right. Right. Well, luckily, Liam was never ruined by this. He never
went dark or angry or bitter or all of those kind of the grumpy, like you said, luckily. So let's
turn to that. Yeah. Yeah. He's very lucky because there's a lot that do. I mean, so yeah,
I think it's a necessary, I mean, there's nothing wrong with the rock guitar. I'm not saying
rock guitar equals bad rock guitar in the right frequency with the right intent can be incredible
and incredibly powerful. I did a whole album, you know, just being angry and it was my therapy. I
don't need a therapist. I need a microphone and during that whole COVID thing, I was like, why
can't you see this? Why can't you are television watching news believers? Why? I told you so and
it was just like, shout, shout, shout. It's incredibly therapeutic for me. And that resonated
with a lot of people as well because I think, you know, the right intent, the right frequency.
So yeah, there's a lot to it. There's a lot of little variables. I think you can tweak
to make it more, you know, more, more profound on the end listener and better for your health as
well, I think. Indeed. Indeed. All right. I'm turning to the chat a little bit. Hello,
Aliza. Nice to see you. Glad you're here. That's a nice comment. Thank you. Yeah. How
beautiful is that? I called you a bloke. And Mr. Spacebusters, who couldn't have a conversation
without mentioning our good friend, Steve Faulkner in common. And he says, struggle he went through
to get through the meltdown therapy and coming out the good side. You can hear each movement
go from frantic to beautiful in the third stanza. Right on, Steve. What's that?
Yeah, Steve, we're going to hook up soon. We have to. He was supposed to come in
Christmas, but he's got some issues like me. Where has it come? But I won't say too much
about that. But yeah, we're going to we're going to make up for it, Steve. We're definitely going
to make up for it, mate. And I want to sing with both of you. So just so you know, that's
on my bucket list. All right, you're going to have to come to Spain. Yes, yes, because
you're both there. Exactly. Rachmaninoff, the second was a masterpiece. He had to go to
psychiatrist after first one flopped and the critics after such high pressure was put on
him. Rachmaninoff, too, was his this is he's. Wow, that's fascinating, man. Right, was a musical
interpretation of the mental amazing. Yeah, he's Russian. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And Miss Dawn Lester is in the chat. Thanks for being here. She asked about opera.
Oh, that's an interesting question. Interestingly, a lot of opera singers say that they can
sing better in four, three, two, and then they do in 440. They find 440 a bit of a strain.
I do think opera is a little bit of a bastardization. Again, lyrics get in the way.
I've not really studied opera as a genre. I find it quite comedic. In fact, I've often thought
about doing a conspiracy song in opera, just just for a laugh, because I think I can do
an opera sort of sound. You've got to just sing from the gut, right? Yeah, do it for it.
But it's not something I've really studied or really enjoyed, to be honest with you. I don't know.
I think, yeah, again, I think the lyrics get in. Do you like opera, Beth?
You know, I find it melodramatic and I can't stand that. So I was being polite.
Yeah, the dramatization of emotions is so fake and gay. I just can't stand it.
That's not our right. That's that's not our true nature. The emotions can flow
authentically and nicely, but that is like this. Yeah, it's a bit much. Yeah, I was being polite.
I've never really warmed to it. Maybe I should give it a second chance with my new understanding
of music, but I just I don't know. It's a little bit. Yeah, like you say, it's too
it's too dramatic for me, really. I think if you looked at the underscore
of it and looked at the musicality of it, I'm sure it's brilliant. So why put that?
Why did I get pissed off with that shit?
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I really wanted to play some of your music here,
but I might get a strike for it. Turn it. Or could I?
It depends. If you if you're doing on YouTube, you the only problem is you won't be able to
monetize the YouTube stream. The stream will stay up, but you just won't be able to monetize
it. I don't anyway. So you won't get a copy. Yeah, copyright. You'll get a copyright
notification saying, by the way, the music that you used in this stream is owned by this fellow
Alex Michael, which means you can't monetize the stream. And that's basically it's just a
notification. You don't get a strike or anything like that. Oh, good to know. Yeah,
there was only get a strike if you use the music. And I was like, how dare you use that
music? I'm going to strike your channel from the eyes, but I would I'm not a prick. So
right, right. Okay, maybe I misinterpreted because even when I use my only music on
streams, I get warnings. I'm not sure I got an actual strike. So it might be what
you're saying. Yeah, probably just be a notification. Just saying it has no bearing on
your channel. But just to let you know that, you know, you can't monetize it because this
music is copyrighted and so if the music that you're writing is copy when you say your
own music, what do you what do you mean? I have four albums. I was going to send them
to you so you could you could hear. Yeah, I've recorded and written a bunch of music
and all right. So the good thing is at least YouTube knows that they are this
copyrighted material. What it doesn't know is that you're the owner of that material.
That's it. Exactly. Right on that. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, I played something off my
Spotify the other day on a stream and it wasn't flagged in any way. So I don't know
it might be good now. Something but yeah, Donna's saying not not her favorite
genre as well when it comes to the opera. And yeah, so if we get deeper in, there's
a ton of questions I want to ask you around it. But if we just do justice to the
suffegio zone, what the heck is that it's when you're talking about a frequency,
what would the difference be between now I'm coming to this pretty green. So forgive me.
Yeah, me too. I'm no expert as I said in my fate. I'm no expert. I'm still very much
dipping my toe into the water of all this. I mean, for me, the proofs in the pudding,
I put the frequencies that I would were recommended to me put it in music and these
people had seemed to have, you know, profound effects. But there's so much
numerology and mathematics that go into all of this stuff. I try and stay away from that if I can.
For me, it's like I just put it into music and here are the effects. But I'll try and
answer some questions if I can. Yes, absolutely. So what is meant by suffegio? What is that
pointing towards? Apparently they're supposed to be ancient healing frequencies.
They derive from Gregorian chance. I mean, the word ancient even now,
I don't even know what the word ancient means anymore. What is ancient? I mean,
I think the timeline is so bloody skewed at the moment. So I don't even know what to call ancient.
But apparently, these frequencies derive from Gregorian chance. People that really know when
they're in meditation, they know the kind of frequencies that resonate with the cavity and
they know the kind of sounds that should be like, you know, Mongolian throat singing,
where they use overtones and undertones, they use all sorts of frequencies and
they were able to create light with just the voice. And even, you know, Tibetan singing bowls are,
they're not, they don't use digital tuners when they're creating these bowls. They use
just their intuitive, intuitive. And so they're not created using, you know, a digital tuner or
anything. So I think these ancient suffegio frequencies come from the Gregorian chance
allegedly. But I do believe that has been bastardized now. I do believe there's a,
there's an ancient or old suffegio set of frequencies, which the Gregorians knew,
and, you know, the Mongolian throat singers or whatever, you know, ancient knowledge, whatever
ancient is. But now I think that those frequencies can be so profound in terms of healing and well
being that, of course, modern society have got hold of these suffegio frequencies and
bastardized the hell out of them. So that's because suffegio frequencies,
if you look into the internet, they're all over the place. And you go on YouTube,
there's these, like five to eight hertz is one you see everywhere. It's got millions,
or if not billions of views. And I'm very suspicious of that from the outset.
But you'll never find 512 having millions of views, which I do believe is the actual
frequency of the heart and actually can lead to well being and health.
One of the frequencies I use in my true true suffegio albums.
So, so there's this old set of suffegio healing frequencies that come from the Gregorian chance
people that knew. Interestingly, a lot of the instruments that are dug up on archaeological
sites and seem to be tuned to 432 hertz as well, which is interesting. So there's this old
knowledge that 432 hertz or something around there because obviously years ago, we didn't
have digital tuners. They were tuning to their cavity, I believe. There's this old ancient
Sulfedio scale. And there's this new Sulfedio set of frequencies that have, you know,
just become very, very popular. And when you start looking into who's behind and who's pushing
these frequencies, you start seeing, you know, discrepancies and you start seeing, you know,
that's when all the shill calling comes out, right? And so I took these, these what I
believe to be the original based on Pythagorean tuning centered on a 34th, a 432 hertz,
whereas the modern Sulfedio tuning is based on numerology and derived using numbered and
scattered across different keys. So I take the original versus the modern and I take the
original frequencies, embed them and infuse them into instrumental music, sit back and just
watch for the results. And the results have been, the results are in.
Amazing. Amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, you've seen some of those reviews and those
testimonials of what happens when people actually immerse themselves in this music,
because that's one of my bugbears, actually, that people don't listen to music anymore.
They have it on in the background. They have it on while they're driving or while they're
working. They don't actually take the time to listen to an unbasterdised, uncompressed
instrumental music with Sulfedio healing frequencies, put on some good quality earphones,
sit back, turn the lights off and immerse yourself in the music. People don't do that
these days. They're too busy doing other things and just have it on in the background.
They don't see it as this healing modality that could really help them if they just tune
out and really focus and remove all of those distractions. So once you actually do that with
the right frequency, uncompressed with the right intent, which I believe my albums are,
then you can start seeing how powerful music can really be.
That's beautiful. I love it. And then to take a step back on the subject,
what's the difference between tone and notes and frequency?
They're all the same thing. Well, the frequencies that I put into my Sulfedio,
they're called sine wave frequencies, which is there's no overtones. There's no undertones.
It's just a pure frequency. So it's literally nothing else, but it's four, three, two hertz
and nothing else. But if you was to play four, three, two hertz on a piano, the middle A,
then you'd have a bunch of overtones and a bunch of undertones, which make up the sound of the
piano. That's what makes the sound of the piano. All these other frequencies. So what was the
good? What was the difference between a tone? Oh, this is good for me. I'm really getting
it now. So yeah, the difference between a frequency. So an A is a frequency,
but when you play it on the piano, it's resonating throughout all of this.
But yeah, because you're getting the sound of the hammer hitting the string,
you're getting the sound of the wood, where the tone resonates through the body of the piano.
That also creates frequencies. It's just a bunch of frequencies that create the sound of the
piano. So when you hit a four, three, two on a middle A, you're getting so many different
frequencies that make up the sound of the piano. Same with a guitar. You hit the A on the guitar
and it's tuned to four, three, two. You're not getting four, three, two hertz. You're getting
so many other different frequencies, hundreds of other frequencies that make up the sound
of a guitar. But in my albums, I put pure unbarsadized sine wave. It's just a
even me doing that with my voice. There's going to be overtones and that won't be a pure sine wave.
But I use a pure sine wave generator to create those pure sine waves and put them into the
music. And then I create the piano soundscape and guitar soundscape and everything on the chords
and the melody around those pure frequencies. Oh, fascinating. And is it kind of like a drone
the way that you're using it? Having a pure tone, like you say, sine wave
that would be constant in the background and then you're playing with and around it?
Exactly. So, okay. I'm getting it. So, yeah, if the song's in four, three, two hertz, I'll have that
all the way through for seven minutes. And then my mission is to build a song around that.
And there's many chords that you, in fact, pretty much every chord, if you're doing it
right, you can build a real nice soundscape around that. But that pure sine wave
frequency remains all the way through the song. But you don't even know it's there by the time
some drums coming or some strings or some harmonies or a guitar, you won't even know it's there,
but it's there. But I make sure everybody knows it's there because the intro of every song it
starts and then the piano will come in that complements that. And then I might bring the
music down to expose that frequency again. And then I'll bring up the music in the chorus
and then I'll back it down so you can hear them. But it's there all the way through. But when all,
of course, the instrumentation comes up, you barely even know it's there, but it's there throughout.
In fact, it's not just one frequency. I'll use an octave above that and an octave below. So,
there's actually three of those frequencies coming through that track while you're listening
to all the instrumentation. I think, I don't know, it seems to work.
How fun is that? I love it.
It's like audio alchemy.
Exactly. Yeah, because now it sounds like in nature, you're not going to find 432 because
it's always going to be having overtones and undertones and different cavities that it's
resonating off. Is that true?
Well, I mean, they say 432 hertz is aligned with nature because when you start looking
at all the frequencies that are involved above 432 and below, it starts to have a relationship,
and I don't quite know how, but it starts to have a relationship with the golden ratio.
What's it called? The other word for the golden ratio? Someone want to know in the chat?
Fibonacci, thank you. It starts to be a relationship with that mathematically speaking
and numerologically speaking. But you can end up on an endless row when you start
using numerology. Frequency means how many times per second yet? Does the sound wave
cross the middle zero point? A hertz is 1000 vibrations per second, so A cross is the center
line, 432 a second. Yeah, but then when was the second even invented? I mean, the second is
a relatively new thing in our timeline, isn't it? So measuring things per second might not
even be the way to go. I don't think they were measuring per second, you know,
anciently speaking. I think they were, like I say, tuning to what they felt, I think,
and it just happens to be in our modern way of understanding things in hertz. I mean,
even hertz was, like the guy hertz was only a few hundred years ago. So yeah, this idea of
measuring frequencies per second is a relatively new thing. So I completely digress there. Where
was I going? Oh, that's good. I'm going to play off that just in terms of standard measures.
So we have a second, right? Who decided what a second was? We got it, and then you get the hour
and the 24. And it was recently very disillusioned thinking that all measures were so standard.
And I've got these little spoons for measuring small amounts of, you know,
potassium chloride or whatever, maybe supplement powder I want to use. And it turns out,
they are not standardized. Because I started comparing one, you know, a quarter teaspoon
in this system is not a quarter teaspoon in that system. It's not a pinch in the
tad and the dash and all this. And it's like, there's nothing standard. Yeah.
Everywhere you go, everything's been bastardized. It's like we're children trying to learn again.
It's brilliant in a way, you know, because I love learning all this stuff, but it's like,
oh, you bastard, you did it to that as well. Exactly. Yeah. And then, and you obviously
sense the difference, right? I will just admit entirely that I don't know what I'm listening to.
I obviously enjoy the music. That's clear that it feels coherent to me. Your music allows me
to focus. And that's different from other music that I find will, you know, just, I'll be,
finally, I'll like turn it off and I'll get frustrated. Okay. I need my whole brain
get away. But I don't, I don't have to do that with yours. And apologies for making it the background,
but I know so many people fight. Again, on that testimonials page on my website,
people say, I find it helps with my focus. It gives me clarity. I'll be, you know,
whether you're having it on in the background, whether you're having it on the car,
you can have while you're having a meal. It's great music to have in the background.
Why not have that music on in the background when it's made with the right frequencies,
with the right intent? Why would you want to have some compressed 440 shit? Why would you want that?
So yeah, absolutely. Try and use it while you're while you're working in the background,
but I'm just saying you could probably get more of a profound experience if you allow it in,
if you really allow it in, remove all of those other distractions.
Exactly. Yeah. Then with the headset and your wave files, right? That would be totally
non compressed rather than the YouTube. I'm listening off of you.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. YouTube is just screws everything up and all of these streaming platforms,
they're utterly ruining music, all of these streaming platforms.
Right. Right. Yeah. And maybe that's part of the reason that it becomes lackluster as well.
So very good. And so you said that the 512 is more around the heart and that's
a common frequency that you're using? It is. Yeah. There's been a lot of people commenting
on that particular track on album one, it's called Heart. On album two, it's called Another Heart.
And for some reason, I don't know whether it's the chord structure. I've tried to make the song
sound very kind of lovey-dovey, kind of love chords. It's just emotional chords.
A bit like Celine Dion's My Heart will go on. There's a reason why that song resonated,
because it's the chord structure. It has similar chords to that.
What are the love chords? Well, the love chords. So C, G, A minor, G.
I wish you could hear my piano here, but you can't. So I've kind of gone around the C,
the G, the A minor to just give a little bit of, oh, now it's a minor.
There's a reason why sad songs are in minor keys and happier songs are in major keys.
But that, my heart song, it kind of crosses between both. And I infuse the 512 hertz in there,
which comes from the keynote standard of 432 hertz. All the solfeggio healing frequencies,
you have to have the keyboard or the piano. You have to have your root frequency in 432 hertz
before any of those solfeggio magic frequencies appear. But that song has been the most played
on Spotify. It's been the most played on iTunes and Apple Music and on YouTube.
For some, and I've had people messaging me saying they just burst into tears.
And I've had friends give birth to that song. And for some reason it resonates. I don't know.
It just, there's an emotional attachment to that song, whether I think it's the frequency
it's supposed to be. Allegedly, I mean, if you believe in the chakra system, I mean,
the jury's out on that one for me, but it's allegedly the frequency of the heart.
And octaves above and octaves below. So you've got the 512 being the frequency of the heart and
the octave above being 1026 and the octave below being 256. What's interesting is you also find
256, 512 and 1026 in the computer world, you know, you'll have a hard drive, which is 512 gigabytes
or 1026 gigabytes or 256. So there's a very interesting correlation there. I don't know
what that means. But yeah, so I don't believe 528 is the frequency of the heart or this DNA
repairing thing, blah, blah, blah. But I don't know. I've experimented with 512, which according
to Jamie Buter, if it's the frequency of the heart and all the frequencies that I use
are supposed to align with the chakras, what you think about the chakra system, I don't know. I
still don't know. Some people would dismiss it as New Age, woo, woo. I'm still experimenting and I
have these frequencies and this is supposed to be for that, that's supposed to be for that.
But I just put them in there and I just sort of mess around and find out kind of thing.
Perfect. Exactly. That's how I've always done things is mess around. That's the child in me
that doesn't mind just playing with things and experimenting. I love to invent wheels. That's
amazing. Discover something that's well-discovered already. Yeah, what I'm doing is I don't know
if anybody else has actually done. I'm not reinventing the wheel already, but I don't
think anybody is infused. I mean, there's, of course, there's the healing frequency
music out there and it's all very monotonous and it's unlistnerable really. It's kind of
just droney and it's just a synth that stays on one chord. It doesn't go anywhere,
but my music actually has an intro, a verse, has a bridge and a chorus and there's melody to it.
So I don't think, and I don't think anybody's done that and actually infused these self-healing
frequencies into music. I think it's quite a unique album. I wish you had more exposure
because I've seen what it can do on a limited scale, but like you, I'm incredibly
censored. So it's very frustrating because I know I have this thing that could really
change the musical landscape and bring well-being and health to a lot of people
if they really give it a chance, but nobody knows about it yet, which is really frustrating.
Well, you're ahead of your time. Maybe. This is why my Flat Earthman album doesn't
sell because I don't think people are quite ready for that kind of information.
Right, and we will definitely get to that. Let me see. Someone had a great question,
David, asking on the onset of AI, music making right now. I'm glad he brought this up because I
have my own feelings. Is this a reverse or are we just going down the rabbit hole of more dead swing
music? I hate it. I absolutely love it. Yeah. I mean, AI is a double-edged sword, isn't it?
I mean, it's a hammer. A hammer can be used to hit someone or it can be used to build a
house. I guess if you're using it for the right reasons, then AI, I've asked AI a few
questions, particularly when it comes to 4, 3, 2 and so forth. And I'm getting mixed results. It's
kind of like, oh, you lying bastard. So there is that to it. But when it comes to AI music,
it's awful. I mean, of course it's in 440. And of course it can spit out a song just like that.
And it's utterly compressed. The vocal sounds so soulless. The instrumental,
it has an element of so and I think in five years time we'll be looking at a completely
different landscape when it comes to AI music. I think it's going to actually kind of mimic
so and it might be actually a little bit more impressive, a little bit more. But at the end
of the day, it's making people lazy as well. Now everybody can be a musician, right? And I
see people posting their AI songs going, this is a new song I just made. This is a new album I
just made. Wanting credit. And I'm like, you didn't make the song. You asked AI to make you a song
about whatever thing, whatever thing you're interested in. You took those lyrics from chat,
then put it into sooner and said, make me a song about this. And in three minutes,
it spat out a song with a really catchy cut. And you've gone, this is my new song. And I
clever, I'm now a musician. It's like, you have no idea what it's like to be me. You have no
idea of the blood, sweat and tears. Now everyone can just go, blah, blah, blah, make me a
song. And people are making albums in five minutes. It's disgusting, really. And it has no soul.
It's, I think, the good thing that's going to come out of this, I think is, I think it's going to
split people into two different directions. It's going to be a want and a need for AI music
because of it's because of how convenient it is because of how quickly you can make an album.
So there'll probably be an AI chart, a chart just for the people that want that
shit. I don't, but there will also be, I think it's going to push old timers and purists like me
down another road that really want the real music with, you know, anti-establishment kind of
lyrics or with the right intent, with the right frequencies, real music, there's going to be a
want and I hope there's going to be a want and need for it over here somewhere. But it seems,
of course, the masses, the asses will follow this, will love AI, they will lap it up.
They will lap it up. They will love it and they seem to be doing so. And I think it's absolutely
ruining creativity. It's making people dumb as shit, you know, and I think it's,
I think musicians are going to have to think a little differently if they want to get
exposure. It's going to be very tough out there for musicians, but I hope people have
the intelligence to actually see it for what it is and start appreciating real music because
that ain't real music. So it's dreadful. Yeah, it takes me about 20 seconds to turn that off.
And I don't care who made it, even if somebody I like made it. And there is something of them
that went into it. I shut down, there's, and it's not even just the idea of it that I don't like,
it's there's something, it's like, no, I don't want this in my system that I have to then
detox something or other. Yeah, it's dirty. It's dirty. I've always said like 440 hertz,
it's like the fluoride of the music industry. And I hear that in AI music, I hear it's dirty.
It's like, there's not a pureness to it. I can't hear the guy singing it. Of course,
you can't because it's digital. And it's just like, there's a bunch of, I can hear,
I've got really good ears. It's a blessing and a curse. And I hear every, it's,
I feel dirty after I've listened to an AI song. I really do. Yeah, I'm with you on that one.
And, and then the creative process is, you know, that that's on the chopping block is so big there.
And I think that's completely by design, because we've been maybe taught that the creative process,
the important part is, oh, I got a thing, I got a song, I got a book, I got a,
you know, end product. But it the process itself, people don't necessarily know what it means to
this is a writer's metaphor, but it is cross the board relevant that to bleed on the page
to open your soul and allow the guts to pour and to have it be terrible for a while or even,
you know, stays terrible or it's just your blood and your guts and it's going to make you cry
and feel everything. And this is, this is what we don't necessarily sense in the end.
AI could never replicate that. Never. It will never have that kind of soul where you're bleeding.
There's a reason like there's something terrible that's happened or something magnificent that happened
and you feel the need to put it into a palm in and then you sculpt the musical landscape
around that with your intent with your emotion and every bend of the guitar is your pain.
I can't do that. No, no, exactly. Exactly. And the victory on the other side,
when you have that breakthrough and you're willing to go through the pain of creating,
then it's that makes for a happy life. There's to me no greater happiness than when I am clear
enough to allow things to be created through me. And that makes it a life worth living.
I always feel like, yep, I could die now. And with no regret,
feel like I lived a good life for that. So let's go there. And thank you, Alisa. I appreciate that.
And David, it does have a last question. We'll read what this is. So that's
my last question. Don't want to drag AI into this, but we'll send you an email in the future.
Oh, okay. I thought you had another point there. And oh, this is, it fun reminds me of
water cooling electric machines made made the song. And I have a habit of say there's
annoying sound in an environment that could be a lawnmower or a boat motor or some, you know,
lights that I had, I had lights that were making frequencies some years. Luckily that's gone now.
LEDs by any chance. Was that or the LEDs by any chance? It's probably the case. Yeah,
probably exactly. LEDs I know are pretty evil. And so my defense mechanism for that
has always been to sing along, right? So I will, I will listen for the tone in the annoying sound.
See if I could find one. They're usually like lack lack coherence, but you can almost always
find one at least. And then I will make that my drone and sing around it. And that takes something
that's like miserable and awful into some again, the happier moments of my life. You're
canceling out the frequency on you're canceling out your your your your matching that that frequency
wave and you're canceling it out. Is that what it is? Because I'm not trying to sing over or drown
it out. I'm going with it. And that can and that cancels it. Well, if you're matching the
frequency exactly, I mean, if you're taking it obviously with it with any sound, there's
the overtones and the undertones if you take the predominant sound and you match it with
your voice or whatever instrument if you match the main frequency, you would I guess there
would be a conflict there and you would you would cancel it out, I think.
Yeah, because I'm more apt to sing harmony, like sing around it a little bit on it under
it. I listen to trucks on the street and I end up harmonizing with a fucking with a truck.
Exactly. Exactly. That's my most favorite game ever. And when I'm under stress, if I'm
being, say, corralled in an airport and it's like it's abuse at that level, I will start
singing, I'll just I'll sing to survive it. Humming as well. There's a lot to humming,
apparently. And if you're in an airport, which are the worst places in the world, which is one
of the reasons I hate traveling because they're just, oh, they're terrible places.
Yeah, humming could be a very good healing modality, I think in an airport for sure.
Exactly. My latest favorite game with humming is I got a vibration plate.
And it's for exercise, but it turns out that if you tone on there, then it moves the sound around
in your body, moves the vibration around in your body to different places, which I was like, wow,
amazing. And if you hum, because I'm trying to spend a lot of time with my tongue on the
roof of my mouth, training my tongue to do that, if you've heard of that at all. Yeah,
sleep better and all kinds of things. And so if you hum, I'm tending to make a cavity
in my mouth anyway, even though my lips are closed. But if you close that gap, then again,
another level of something interesting is going on with the humming. So yeah, I'm playing with that.
Yeah, there's a lot of Montgolian throat singing that does that. They will not only hum,
but they will create these overtones and undertones that can create light. It's like a
hum. So there's your main, but there's a there's a there's so much going on that if you get that right,
and you do that, you know, for hours or whatever in the right space, then profound profound things
can happen, I think. Exactly. Exactly. Were you ever into mantra in any way? Or is that just
no, no, no, I wish I really wish I want to get into more of that, but I've tried
meditating in a month. I've tried all of that. But my mind's just too busy.
So go ahead. Just my real quick thing is that I've I don't practice mantra anymore. It
dumps you down. It numbs you out. It actually dulls your senses. That's how I got sick
with the stage four lymphoma was doing all this mantra, all this meditation. Wow. Now I
would rather focus rather than check out or bliss out or feel so happy or, you know, I actually want
to zero in focus, not numb out. Right. Okay. Well, then maybe I should see that as a good thing,
the fact that I can't numb out. I've tried because I've always, you know, I've always had
trouble with sleeping and that and relaxing because I'm always on the go in my brain.
I'm always created. I've always got a project. I'm always doing something.
Find it very difficult to relax and zone out. But maybe I shouldn't feel so guilty about that.
Yeah, exactly. There's there is a downside to that that using it to check out. I had a roommate
die of cancer that way and her cult just said, Oh, go chant more. So she chanted more and she was
gone. Yeah. I can't say that that killed her, but it didn't help. Obviously. Yeah.
Interesting. No, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. So there's a dark side to chanting
in as well. Wow. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Exactly. That's why you can get so much corruption in those
communities that I was just looking at a documentary yesterday. Some guy was actually pretending
to be a guru. So he just happened to look like an Indian. And so he played the part and he made
himself into a guru and he had the following. And oh, where was I going to go with that? I
don't I can't remember offhand, but shoot, I missed the point. It was so it was so funny
that everybody wanted to go forward and they're they're like, you are so special and I feel
amazing around you. And I actually basically everyone drunk the Kool-Aid. Everyone drank
the Kool-Aid and I also drank the Kool-Aid in India. I had a guru. So this this was a point
of interest too that you put that word in your. Yeah. If I had my time again, I wouldn't use
that, but carry on. Okay. Well, what was behind it for you that?
Because I was doing conspiracy. I was listening to a marketing guy at the time and he said,
if you're going to do something, present yourself as an expert in the field. If you
want to get a following. And I was doing conspiracy music. And I thought, well,
if people are looking for conspiracy music, then they're going to type into Google conspiracy
music. So what can I be conspiracy music guy conspiracy? And I remember him saying,
you know, present yourself as an expert and remember guru really means guide or teacher
or something like that. And I thought, well, I'm putting information in that is guiding
and teaching. So just as an online handle, you know, some people are online or called
like, you know, the tech guru, if there's a guy online who does nothing but Apple stuff.
And he's a tech guru, he calls himself tech guru, or there's a guy called something Jedi,
you know, they don't really see themselves as a Jedi or a guru or a Sith or whatever,
or a warrior or whatever. They're just online handles at the end of the day.
So it was kind of a tongue-in-cheek thing. I wish I'd said, I don't know,
just call myself Alex, my course, I'd be good. Oh, guru, you think you're a guru?
No, it's just a bit of a tongue-in-cheek blah, blah, blah. So yeah, that was
the thinking around it. So yeah, I'm not trying to start a cult or anything,
or trying to get people to drink the Kool-Aid or anything. I think, you know,
judge them by their fruits, I think. And I think my fruits have been okay,
I've made mistakes, don't get me wrong, but I'm still learning and I'm trying to,
you know, I'm trying to do the right thing musically. I feel like I've got a purpose
now, you know, now that I know some stuff, why not put it into music, which is my way of
communicating, you know, rather than writing another tepid love song. I think the world
has got too many of those as it is. So I'm doing something very unique and different,
and it's the worst business decision I've ever made. But you know, I get so much joy
from doing it and seeing the response. I would never criticize you. Also, comedy is such a big
part of what you're delivering too. So that's a perfect fit, if you ask me. The gurus, there's
no end to the amount of material you can make fun of in that world, right? That it's literally
endless nuts. Well, you can get away with a lot more if it's a joke, right? You know,
it's more tongue-in-cheek, it's perceived as comedy or satire, whatever. And the good thing about
infusing comedy with truth is, even if people don't believe or resonate with what I'm saying,
the visuals and the how animated I am in the videos, particularly with the flat
earth man character that I did about seven years ago now, something like that, and maybe more,
actually. Yeah, no, yeah, eight years ago. That becomes a lot more shareable when you can make
someone laugh. Even if they don't get the subject really, it's just me really making fun of
NASA and showing green screen and harness fails and all that sort of stuff. And me just pointing
at it and going, hmm, that's suspicious, don't you think? And just being really animated and
dancing around them, it's a funny video at that point. And it becomes way more shareable. People
would rather share a five-minute funny music video than listen to two hours of Eric Dubey
droning on about proof after proof after proof after proof. That's for a certain type of audience,
but I want to get, you know, I want to recruit the new people into this information and go,
hey, look at this shower of crap that NASA are putting out. Surely you should be questioning
this. And I'm just doing that in a musical comedic way. I want to do more comedy for sure,
because that really resonates with a lot of people. And, you know, it makes this darker world a little
bit more fun, I think, if you're doing it with a skip in your step and a nudge in a wink.
And, you know, I think it's definitely more fun to make, that's for sure.
Indeed. It's more courageous because a lot of people get stuck in the anger side of the
truth movement, so-called. And if you go up a few steps, you know, raise the frequency, which I'm
actually not a fan of. I'm an Ascension Buster, in case you hadn't seen that. But it brings you
into a place of much greater courage. And through that, also much greater connection,
you let your guard down when you have a laugh. There's something like you just become
authentically yourself for a second or however long that takes place. So yeah,
I got addicted. Someone suggested a show. I don't watch shows, but they suggested it.
It's in my house of free will, so I always try to out of respect, look at what they want me to
see. So I got addicted to this show called The Good Place. And, you know, there's-
I've been watching that.
You know, okay, yeah, there's certain good elements. And then it just gets a laugh
out of me. And there's- there is something to be said for this, like life worth living, right?
Yeah, we don't have much choice, do we? I mean, you could handle it in a bunch of
different ways. And I've handled it in a bunch of different ways musically. When I was angry with
COVID, I was shouting into a microphone and I produced a rock album. And that was essential
for my therapy, I think. Like I said before, I don't need a therapist. I need a microphone.
I think that was essential. I mean, it's okay to be angry. It's okay to be pissed off with the world.
But I definitely see what you're saying about, you know, just dealing with it with the
humor of the- because we are living in a clown world. Nothing makes sense. It's almost-
if you can detach yourself from, you know, from the red and the blue and the left and
the right and just see it for one big stage and just one- and if you can zoom out enough
to see that and start having fun with it, which I think I'm at that stage now, just have fun with
it. Stop getting angry. You can't change it. You can't change it. Just have fun with it. Try and,
you know, enlighten other people and get people on board. But I think having fun is absolutely
essential. So, yeah, I totally see what you're saying. That's great. I love how when you
start talking about fun, it gets really serious. Not with you, but I just noticed that in
general, as soon as you want to do that, you used the word purpose earlier and that's
the music to my ears. That's my whole subject and it's what my near-death experience taught me
that we're not here in a random way. And you did the quiz on my website, the King Hero quiz,
and got the nurturer. So that's- it's all a measure. All of the archetypes are not a measure
as if like high or low amount of purpose, but the blueprint of the purpose that might be more
predominant. And I think you and I both maybe expected- this is so fun when it's not what I
expect. You know, maybe more of the rebel was going to come forward because there's an obvious
persona there in your music, like you said with the rock album and just like doing your anger
therapy, which I love. But it came up the nurturer, whose purpose really is service
to give back. The nurturer is far enough along the hero's journey that they have enough of their
own problems solved and they have something to give back. 100%. Yeah, that was a surprise to me as
well. Like I said before we came on, that that was an interesting little quiz. Like one of the
questions was something like, you know, do you want to give something to humanity? Do you want to
help the world? And it's like, yeah, I do. And you held up a mirror to me. It's like,
yeah, I am that guy. I'm that guy that's- I'm not doing this for the money.
Definitely not. I'm doing this because I think I have something to say. I think I can help
people. I think I can, you know, give people happier lives, healthier lives. Because I know that
as long as I've been on this journey, I feel totally blessed to be on this journey.
I'm a lot healthier and happier for having been on it. Yeah, there's some darkness there. I've
done my dark night of the soul and you have to do the shadow work and understand that,
you know, this place isn't quite what we were told. And where we live is not quite-
pretty much everything you have to just let go of every single ology, pretty much. But I'm a happier
person for having done that. And now I can see- I mean, I still got a lot to learn. Don't get me
wrong. I've got a shitload to learn. But at least now I feel I'm in a position to help or inform
or educate in some kind of way. I've had many messages that from mothers even like,
your music helps me to educate my children on the deceptions of NASA or your song Big Farmer
really helps my mother see, you know, that these GibiJabs weren't probably the best medical
intervention in the world. And various different messages that I get from people,
you know, saying that I've helped them in some way. Maybe it's just a lyric. Maybe it's
the entire song. Maybe it's just a chorus. Maybe it's the theme, whatever. But when you start
putting that music out there and you start realizing you are actually helping people,
you're like, damn, how can I stop doing this? I now have a purpose. Maybe that's what I was
put here to do. I'm not going to write another love song. I'm not going to do that anymore.
You know, if I'm to write a song, there has to be something in there, at least a lyric
that can move someone go, why did he put that? What's he talking about? Maybe I
should do my research on that. And many people do. And they come to the same conclusions of,
you know, step by step, drop by drop, you're going, oh, holy crap. It's a different world
we're living in. And maybe, you know, maybe that's what I was put here to do, just to,
you know, to help people see the way I see. And I think there's so much more. I was very
arrogant when I got to the cosmology thing and the flat out, I thought there's no bigger
truth than that. There's no bigger truth. There's no, you know, but there's so much
more out there. There's so much more. The more I zoom out, the more I step back. It's like,
wow. And thank God I am stepping back and zooming out really, because I can now see it from a
different perspective the most. And I just take that perspective, put it into music. And
a lot of times I, you know, I have fun with it. I do comedic stuff. I do a grip. You know,
I did my angry session. And now more of the healing stuff. So it's like an evolution of
me as a person. Every album is what I'm going through. Every album is, you know, my exposure to
a certain subject. And the Sol Fejo is just my exposure to, you know, the healing frequency
world, which I thought was New Age Woo-Woo at the start, but I have a very different opinion
of it now. So yeah, very therapeutic. It is my purpose. I don't think I can ever do anything
else. And again, the worst business decision I ever made.
There you go. So fun. Yeah. I often think, if I could do easier things for money.
Yeah, so good. I could make songs about space and the galaxy. Right? I could do all of that,
but no, my soul won't allow me to do it. Yeah, good for you. That's amazing.
Don wants me to ask you about the books you created from your lyrics.
Oh, thanks, Don. Yeah. That was Dave Weiss's idea, actually. I was on a podcast with him,
and he was saying, hey, Alex, why don't you turn your songs into children's books?
I'm like, oh, God, that's sad. I don't even know how to do that. How do you publish a book?
And but he ignited the spark. And I was like, actually, that's a really good idea.
Because as I said before, like, mothers were contacting me saying,
I know my kids love your music because I'm so animated in these in these music videos.
And kids love it. And it's a it's a really good teaching tool. So why not make a series of
children's books out of those videos? So that was about a six month process. Once David had
put that idea in my head, I had to run with it. It's like, and I'm quite obsessive.
Once someone puts the idea and I think it's a good idea. Once someone puts the idea into
my head, I'm like, yeah, that's it. So then I had to learn all about, you know, publishing and
how to, you know, PDFs and kindle publishing and all that sort of stuff and then get screenshots
of my videos and blah and do all that. So it took me about six months. But yeah, now I've got a
range of seven children's books that every subject of there's one about the moon landing.
There's one about photographs of Earth is one about the ISS is one about satellites, you
know, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's there to get the cogs turning and to inspire a little bit
of critical thought in youngsters. I mean, NASA are continually targeting our children, aren't
they? So why can't we do the polar opposite of that and do the same and say, hey, by the way,
you know, why don't you think about what you're being told here when it comes to,
you know, outspace travel and globes and galaxies and ISS and moon landings and all
this, this, this, this heliosaucery. That's a good word. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, brilliant. It's funny.
I didn't come across your, your children's books yet, but I have a young person in my life. I'm
going to get those for may and make a great Christmas present. Yes. Next year, because
you won't get me. Well, actually, if you go onto my website and you go on the merch section
and you go to kids ebooks, you can download all the ebooks for free. So they're available
digitally for free. If you want the hard copy, you have to go to Amazon and get them there.
Right. Right. And it's no little thing to publish. So congratulations on that. I know it's,
it's almost easy to write the book and that's not easy, but compared to the publishing, it's like,
wow. Yeah. It was a pain in the ass. But, you know, I'm glad I did it. I'm glad I did it.
Yeah. Absolutely. No, that's amazing to put that out and leave the legacy for the generation
to come. Yeah. I hope those books end up on like, you know, in a dentist's waiting room
or something, you know, a doctor's waiting room or something. I don't know. Or somewhere that
the good thing about physical books is they will just be there. They will be in a loft somewhere
or they'll be in a cupboard and someone will open the cupboard or be there. It's not like,
you know, the digital book burning that we could be subjected to. All that stuff could
disappear overnight. You've got physical copy. It's just, I just, I just, I like the idea
of people just picking up the book and finding it, you know, for somewhere it could be a
book in, I don't know, on a waiting room in a dentist's office in Arkansas or something.
You're just like, just the idea of that someone going, what's this? You move a mind.
Indeed. Indeed. Yeah. No, it's amazing that we take care of our, our next generations
coming up. We know that's probably going to be a big divide. I can see the,
you know, my son, I don't know how he did it, but he woke himself up. It was actually gun laws
in Canada that he, he finally just went like, are you kidding me? This, he's like,
this is bullshit. And then everything followed after that, like a house of cards, like, oh,
this and that. And I think he never did. Yeah. He only once made fun of me that I'm probably a
flat earth or so we didn't go down that road again. I just don't go on that hill very much
to die on. He's primed and ready for it, I think. Yeah. I think so too. I think so too.
Yeah. He's, he's very discriminating and he'll do it on his own. He doesn't want to be
influenced. You know, when it came to the jabs and the boogeyman virus and everything,
one day as an 11 year old or so he proclaims to me, I don't believe anything my dad says.
And I don't believe anything you say. And I said, that's a good start. Yes. Like, I'm like,
perfect. That means you're actually thinking for yourself. Go, go team. So yeah, no, that,
it's worked out amazingly. So he's going to be, he's going to be a great young man. You
know, he's already showing signs of greatness. Thank you. Yeah. I'm, I'm, it makes me hopeful.
I'm actually going to be interviewing him today for the second time in the House of
Free Will. So people are getting to hear from him. He swears a lot. I can't really
bring him into public yet, but I'm really holding back by the way during this conversation.
I swear an awful lot, but I'm trying to hold back. But I don't mind one bit,
but I think the algorithms do tune in with the swearing. So it's, it's entirely up to
you. I do not mind. I'm not a, yeah, yeah. Well, maybe privately, but I'm trying to hold back.
I mean, I am working class, a drinker and a smoker and I'm working class and I do,
actually, I don't think that there are such things as swear words. That's a whole
another conversation. I think there's words and there's intent. We can use a swear word,
a curse word and put good intent behind it. And if it automatically changes the
intent of that word, but that's another conversation. But yeah, I'm actually a
fan of swearing. Oh, yes. Indeed. Like I, my son and I, that's, that's really,
we have so much fun talking to each other. Now it's interesting when you talk about intent
and then sound. So you've got the same word that has, you know, how, how you deliver it
matters, but the intent is even deeper than that, right? Because I've, and my son has called
me out that as a child, when I would try to put the right voice on, and that would be really
kind and sweet and trying to force him to do what I want. And he's like, I see right through you,
mom, this is bullshit. And, and then I'm like, Oh, so I can't just put on the right tone.
And I actually have to come up with the love. I've to be loving.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, your child's not a dog. You can't go, Hey, you little prick that you
can't put the dogs can be fooled by that. I don't think your son's part of the
life. Hey, how are you? I'm clearing your room. No, I think I think sound waves, I think
sound waves are carriers of consciousness. I believe if you put your intent into a sound wave,
it can be delivered in the way you intend it like emotos experiments, for instance, with
the water, right? If you, if you, if you know, if you take a jar of water and then you swear it
and you say, Oh, I hate you, I want to kill you. And you put it under a certain freezing,
certain temperature, and then it will show all sorts of incoherent muddiness,
blah, blah, blah. But if you talk nicely to a jar of water, same with the rice experiment
as well, you know, and same with plants as well, if you if you put the right intent
and you could make a plant thrive with just your voice, you could also make a plant
wither and die with just your voice. It's the intent behind it. If you tell a plant, I hate you,
you're disgusting. You disgust me. I want to kill you. I hope you die. You do that to a plant for
a month or so and you watch it literally wither and die. You do the complete opposite to another
plant and say, Oh, I love you. You're the most beautiful thing. You are gorgeous plant. Welcome
to the world. I hope you find this beautiful. You're you're that plant is going to thrive.
But you have to do it the right intent. If you was like looking at that plant,
actually hating it but saying the right words, I don't think that's going to have the same effect.
I do believe that sound waves are carriers of your intent. You put your intent
into a sound wave. That's how you deliver, you know, real change. I think it's wizardry,
really, it's audio alchemy. I think it has to come from the intent. It has to come from
the art, which my music does. That's beautiful. I love that. Let's see. Steve likes swearing
the highest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he says, I just answered your question earlier about the
difference between tone notes and frequency. It's not what you say or do. It's the tone you use
when you say it and the intention of the tone because I can, you know, people can fake tones.
They can make tones. They can, they can mimic tones. And that's what you notice with like
more, say, people who are void of souls mimic very well. And this is what our AI is doing. It's
mimicking our emotions. It's busy studying our emotions. I know for a fact. It's mimicking
all of the soul music. In fact, there's a lot of lawsuits out there at the moment that are
suing sooner because it's basically plagiarizing all of the music that's out there. It's
learning from all of the music out there and it's currently learning how to be a soulful
singer. And I can pick it out like that. It's just a, but it's getting better. It's going to mimic
soul. Whereas some people hear the recording and they go, oh, that's so soulful. But with no
intent behind it, without the singer's pain, without, without that, that core intent behind
it, it's just a big bunch of nothing noise to me. You know, so, so it's going to get very
good at mimicking soul AI. You know, I dread to think what's around the corner, but it can
never compare to real intent going into sound waves and affecting people on a profound level
because it's coming from your heart. As Imoto has shown, as the, as the rice experiment has
shown, you know, talking well to plants and giving plants the right music and watching
them fry with the right, it will never compare to that. It can't. Exactly. John was
pointing out the secret book of plants. And to me, the, the unreplicable element is life,
right? That this you can't do. Sure. Maybe you can mimic soul because soul has certain qualities
about it. Life does not have qualities. There is something is either alive or it has the
absence of life. And to me, that's the insult of the AI music. Now, I'm not totally against AI.
It has actually transformed my life. There's a bunch of stuff that I do in my work that eats
gobs of time and I don't like it. I do it as a matter of diligence so that I can do everything
that is purposeful for me. And I've got it doing it. And it's like, wow, this is amazing.
And I know they're going to addick me to it. And I'm going to be very sad when I need to,
you know, drop a blood to get on or whatever the price of admission is going to be. I know
that this is some kind of weird in-between place where they let us play with the toys.
They're priming us for this. They're priming us for a digital world, aren't they? They're testing
the waters with the digital currency and maybe that will become mandatory. Maybe your music will
be AI. And it's all, you know, when it gets to that point of, you know, you've got to sign
in with your iris scan or your footprint, then that's the time to walk away. But yeah,
AI is a double-edged sword. It can be used for good. I don't suppose I have a real problem with
someone making an AI song, talking about all the deception of the world. So therefore, the end
user can then listen to it and be enlightened and then start on their own journey of truth.
I don't really have a problem with that. I think that, you know, I think the foundations
are quite shaky at that point because the music is not great. But if you're putting,
you know, the real intent and good information in an AI song, then, you know,
I might just let it pass. But, you know, in terms of, you know, having real profound effects
with music, but if it gets someone on their journey and gets someone questioning, then maybe it can
be used for that, maybe. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you're not replacing your creative process
that is the blueprint that you pay forward with, right? Every time you create, then you're
actually inspiring the next person to say like, Hey, because I'm a songwriter in India,
he'd written more than 2000 songs. And I thought, well, you wrote 2000, I bet I can write one
or two. And I started on my path at that point, right? So that's how creativity becomes something
that's, that's like infectious in a good way. Yeah. Yeah, people think that writing a song is some,
some, something that only a genius could do. Like people put Bob Dylan on a, on a, on a,
on a pedestal because he was such a great, I don't believe that at all. I mean,
don't even get me started on Bob Dylan. But his deal with the devil aside, there's all of
that. Whether he even wrote his songs is another question as well. We know that people
didn't write any of theirs, but there's that huge question mark above all of that.
But writing a song is not difficult. I mean, any child can write a poem. Any child can write a
poem. If you can just make, if you can just just speak from the heart and make something rhyme,
I guarantee you I could turn that into a really nice song. If it's from the heart,
it doesn't even have to rhyme. It's just writing something down. It doesn't have to rhyme.
It's just why, why pretend that someone that can write a song is, Oh my God, he wrote that all
by himself. Well, okay. So he can write and he can write. It's not something that only geniuses
can do. You can just sit down and put your thoughts onto a bit of paper. It doesn't
have to rhyme. Just pour your heart out. There's a song right there. You're now a songwriter.
And yet it's highly nuanced. And there's, you know, when I'm, I'm a music snob, I don't
bother to listen to anything if I don't like it. Like I just don't want to,
I don't want to have it in the background. I don't want those worms in my head. If I'm
going to get worms in my head, I want them to be good worms. So there's even a risk when I'll
listen to people's music in a strange way, which might sound weird.
Yeah, it should come from you. It should be, I don't listen to any music anymore. I try to
avoid it. Of course, when you go to the supermarket or whatever, and there's something
planned, you can't avoid it, but you're in a taxi or whatever. But it's on in the car.
Turn it off. I try not to be influenced in any way, shape or form. I want it to all come
from me. Obviously, I have my, you know, my guitar bends and my guitar solos are maybe slightly
clapped on X because I do love clapped on them. Obviously, it's going to be an influence there.
I don't think we can escape any kind of influence, but I try to make it all mine.
If I can, I want it to come from me and me only. Can't really escape those
the influences that I heard from Pink Floyd or, or, or Stevie Ray Vaughan or
Hendricks or whatever. You can't really, oh, that's a nice bend. But again, if you're
doing it with the right intent and the right frequency, you can have more of a
profound effect. But yeah, I try and avoid influence if I can these days.
Right. Right. I get you. Yeah. And then there's no, nothing new under the sun, right? So we,
we inevitably borrow their songs. I thought were so original and like where people are like,
where did that come from? And then I'd go back and listen to something and go like,
oh my goodness, that's where I, that got in my brain. And I didn't know I was,
it wasn't a copy, but I could see clearly there was a.
Yeah. So much stuff is stolen from classical music as well,
Rachmaninoff as well. You know, there's certain sections of a Rachmaninoff song
that did the piano concerto number two, Rachmaninoff. The sections of that
were stolen to make All By Myself by Nielsen and made famous by Celine Dion.
There's a lovely little bridge in there that's just beautiful. But
so when you hear it and you go, Oh my God, that was amazing. Like,
how did Nielsen come up with that? No, he stole it from Rachmaninoff.
The reason they're able to steal it is because it's over 100 years old and it's
copyright free at that point. So, so much is taken from those great composers and
brought into the real world. And you think, Oh, that's amazing. No, you stole that.
Exactly. Yeah. The good artists borrow and great artists steal. Steve is saying AI will
never have what we call X factor. Even when it, when it learns to try and be less
perfect to mimic us, it still won't ever have that thing that resonates with us.
Yeah. 100%. It will never, it will never have that. It can't have that. It's utterly soulless.
Yeah. Yeah. What did my, my son's dad is a music producer as well. And he would,
he would call it the intangible, the thing that couldn't be named or you can't
put your finger on it, but it's there and everybody knows it.
I've just realized something. The URL that you've got healingfrequencies.net
It's healingwithfrequencies.net. So anyone who tried to go onto that website and not
going to find my website. Sorry about that. Yeah. My apologies too. I should have been
prepared healing with. Excellent. I'm going to change that right now. So,
and I will even grab that as a URL to put in the chat.
There we go. Sometimes I said I was complaining they go and improve something
and it doesn't make it better. It's okay. It's under my, under my
try. Try one more time to do this. It's no reason it shouldn't work healing.
It's okay. It's right. It's right there. Look anyway.
One dumb thing.
How's that? Okay. Yeah. I can sleep at night now. Excellent.
You wouldn't want to add to the insomnia. I got some ideas to share with you,
but I'll share offline if you're interested. Yeah.
Because I completely transformed my sleep. I sleep through the entire night now.
I'm getting there. I was borderline insomniac for many, many years. I've done a lot of work
mentally. Just doing some relaxation sort of exercises and relaxing my body. What I've done
is I've, I've, you, I kind of pay attention to my body and I realized the stress that's
in my neck and I go, hold on. Your neck's really stressed. It's really, you don't realize it until
you actually focus on, on relaxing your neck and you start, okay, focus on the neck. Relax.
And then also the neck. I'm doing it now. Now my shoulders are dropping. It's only when you
really focus on that. And I've been doing that in bed and like, okay, relax your shins,
relax your toes, relax your face. Like the amount of tension you carry in your face is
incredible in your eyebrows. And it's like, you go to bed like this, this coiled mess and you
don't realize it. And you try to sleep like, why do I can't sleep? Then you start to sort of have
a little, I've started to have a little word with myself and go like, dude, you know, stop it.
And I've been, I'm way better now. I'm way, way better now.
That's good. Oh, good for you. That's amazing. Yeah, that can go a long way.
And I won't go off on too much of a tangent, but you can keep in mind that copper is poison.
And that's something that causes causes a lot of insomnia, a lot of jaw and, and this
you're just shattering. I'm drinking out of copper cups. Stop it. Really? Stop it. Wow. Yep.
That is the biggest sigh up ever. Wow. Yep. And I got tons of receipts and medical literature
if you need that. So what you should need that fence. Right. Okay. My wife needs to hear this.
She's, she's, um, she's big on the copper. Okay. It's a stimulant. Almost every poison is,
is stimulating. So we get high from it. That's why people think that they're, when they eat
organs, they're, they're getting high. They are because they're being poisoned.
And so it has this, you know, I used to guzzle green juices loaded in copper.
And I would go, Oh, I'm so healing over here. I'm high and go up. Yeah. Okay.
Noted. Thanks for that. You're very welcome. Yeah. I love the, the alternative to the alternative.
Yeah. Yeah. Now I consider it's like another ivermectin, isn't it?
What's that? It's like another ivermectin, right? Yeah. Bingo. Bingo. Yep. Exactly.
No, I consider myself an outlier among outliers now that a whole bunch of the truth, the world,
they don't like me anymore because I didn't just stop looking for the truth.
Right. No, no, good for you. And I would, I would, um,
same with colloidal silver. Right. Would you say that?
Silver. Some people are slamming it. I, I don't want to take it in. And I don't
hear bad things about it. So I mean, I do hear the bad things, but yeah. So my
jury's still a little bit out. I don't want it in my body for some reason though. So there's that.
And, uh, I know it's been slammed and all it turns people blue. There's different
applications with, uh, literally does. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't want it.
I think I had a lot of it. I'm done with it. I have used it topically when I had a very
bad cut I was used to protect. So, uh, yeah. Yeah. There's, this is a very, very big
subject. How's your time by the way? I'd never asked you. Yeah. Cause I have a bunch more questions.
Great. And, uh, yeah. So when was that turning point when, when your music and
conspiracy collided? Was there a moment where you, you weren't doing that when you decided you were?
Yeah. I think there was definitely a turning point in 2012 because I'd been doing music.
Like I was introduced to a piano when I was four years old. I come from a musical family.
My dad was an organist. My uncle was a guitarist. My other uncle was a bassist. My other uncle was
a drummer. They was all in a band together. So I was surrounded by music from a very early age.
Started learning the piano when I was four. And, um, I did my first gig when I was eight
playing in an old people's home, playing, um, Christmas music. And then, uh, I did some
gigs when I was 12 and 13 playing keyboard in a little club and started out and then
was DJ and I was a karaoke compare and acoustic guitarist and a singer. And I was just always doing
cover songs and maybe a few of my own, which were those tepid love songs. It was just music,
music, music. And I was making a living out of making music, which is what I always wanted.
Never really wanted to work a day in my life. I wanted to, you know, I didn't
never really wanted to clock in and clock out, although I did plenty of that.
I wanted to make a living from making music and, uh, I achieved that to a certain extent.
It's only in 2012 when, you know, an alternative narrative hit me.
9-11 was the catalyst that got me into truth. Sure.
And like a lot of people, like a lot of people, that's that similar story. And when that hit me,
it was like, I, how can I make us another love song? Can I, this is so profound.
Um, I don't know what to do with this information. I can't, you know,
the only thing I could do is to put it into music. And in 2012, I wasn't really a competent music
producer. I was just doing, you know, gigs in pubs. And I didn't really know how to record my
stuff onto a computer. I got to about 2000 and 14, 15, where I was messing around with music
production. I had a ringtone company, still have actually, and I was making ringtones and
selling them on iTunes. And that was a good revenue for a while. And then,
I, then all of, all of that just became like, just, God, it's so benign. And so,
just, I don't know, just wasn't really changing the world. Really, I had this
profound knowledge that the whole world doesn't work the way I thought it would.
There's these huge lies, these lines that are so far out of most people's perception that they,
but I got it. It's like, Oh, now the world makes sense. Like that line in the matrix where,
where, where Morpheus says to Neo, there's something wrong in the world, you know it.
But you just can't put your finger on it. You, you feel it when you go to work, you feel it when
you go to church, when you pay your taxes. And I felt that and I was like, Oh, now I get it.
It's like, so when you're hit with that profound truth, like the world doesn't work the way you
thought, it's like, Oh my God, everything changed for me musically. So when I finally had the
confidence to actually produce my own song, when I, when I, you know, was familiar with the,
with the software, I made my very first conspiracy song in 2017. And that was about Flat Earth.
And I wasn't that one. Well, it was called Flat Earth Man. That's it. Yeah. And it was,
it was a story about me meeting a, well, it's, it's, it's a long story behind that.
Mike Wilkerson was involved in that actually, because I remember talking to him about Flat
Earth. And he was like, no way, bro, there's photographs and everything. And I'm like, yeah,
but, you know, you, you can imagine that conversation. And that inspired me to write a song.
You know, I met a man the other day. And this is written from his perspective,
like he's meeting this guy who thinks the earth is flat. So the, and I just remember
writing this poem into my phone saying, I met a man the other day who thought the earth was
flat. I said, man, you must be crazy. Where the hell was your tin foil hat?
But he spoke with such conviction and he believed the words he spoke. And something deep inside me
knew this couldn't be a joke. But why would he believe this? Why believe such things? Because
everybody knows the earth's a ball and that it spins. And, well, you must be pretty crazy if
you think the earth is flat. And I can't remember the exact lyrics, but it was inspired by
that conversation. And I wrote that poem into my phone. And I thought, well, I might as
into a song now, but I wasn't comfortable delivering it as Alex Michael and just like
singing a serious song. I thought, well, let's put a hat on and some shades and kind of do a country
voice. And well, I met a man the other day who thought the earth was flat. And I delivered
it that way in hiding behind the, hiding behind the character if you like, because I
thought if my family's going to see this, then they can just dismiss it. I was just
putting on a funny voice. He doesn't believe that stuff. He's just, you know,
it's just a song. But of course it was my telling of my profound truth, my profound
understanding that, holy crap, we've been lied to about where we live. And I'm putting into music,
but not comfortable delivering it as, you know, Alex Michael. So I put on this character and it
actually worked, you know, because I put that song out there and I kind of got an internet
hug and a pat on the back and people are going more and more on call. And I ended up doing
another one, right? Okay, let's do the moon landing. Let's do the photographs of earth.
Let's do the ISS. And before I knew it, I was, I made a whole album about that about
NASA and cosmology and all that sort of stuff. So it was only really 2016 that I got the
confidence and I had enough bullet points to be able to go right. I have something to say now
and I can put it into a song and I can play a bit of guitar. I can sing a little bit and I
reckon I could make a song and I could like tell people about this stuff. I know, but
hide behind this character. And I did that and people was like, people, so many people thought
I was this Southerner from Texas or something. Exactly. Yeah. And it was a real compliment because
people are like, holy shit, you're English. Yeah, yeah. We thought you was American. Well,
thanks very much as a compliment, but I did this stereotypical kind of voice that was loud
by the end. It's really animated and really was like way over the top. You know, it
was too much television as a child, but that's how I hid behind, you know, that subject and
that's how I chose to deliver it. It was like this transition between 2012 and 2016 of learning
this stuff and then a point of being able to put it into music, you know, in terms of the
software and ability and that. And I was like, right now I'm going to, I can't do any other
music now. It's going to have to be this. Now I could, you know, just, you know, get it off my
chest. And so yeah, it was 2012, the catalyst 9-11 that got me into it. And then I eventually got
confident enough on the software that I was able to start making my first song and video,
which the first video wasn't any green screen. It was just me just jumping around in studio.
And then I found the wonders of green screen. It's like, holy crap, you telling me all I
need is a green bit of cloth. And I could put any image I like behind me. Right. That just
exploded my creativity. And then I'll have a point where I'm floating on the ISS in some of the videos.
And I just, it really, you know, gave me this creative burst to just, just, just to get
everything off my chest and comedically and having a lot of fun with it as well. So
it's been a huge journey. And then there's all sorts of other topics that I've addressed
in other videos and that. And I will continue to do it, I think, because once you know this stuff,
I don't think you can stay silent. I think it's your duty to put it out there. You know,
because I don't want to be on my deathbed going, I want to leave behind a little bit of a legacy
and try and say that at least I tried, I tried to leave this apartment in a better
condition than when I found it. You know, at least I can, you know, go to my deathbed
going, yeah, remember them songs I made, you know, and millions of people saw them.
And that's, you know, that will, I think, that'll give me some peace in my final days, I think.
Amen. And that's spoken like a true king hero, by the way.
Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah, the duty, the legacy, the leave of better than you found it.
Yeah. That's how I feel. That's genuinely how I feel.
Yeah, that's amazing. And your buddy, Mike, our buddy, Mike is in the chat here.
There he is.
Hello.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. His ears were burning, Dawn. And a hello quietly content bear.
Thank you for being here. And thanks for the, the truth bombs.
Miss Elisa Eliza. Sorry if I'm missing. I met several Eliza Eliza's at the same time.
It's I'm really confused now, I have to say.
Just how that went. And yeah, I love that. The accent, of course, I just have to say
how surprising it was to know you are you from Sussex?
Is that, I think I've heard you say you have a Sussex kind of accent.
Essex is different. Essex, yeah. Essex is about 20 miles northeast of London.
So it's like a London overspill. So I have a London accent and I drop my teas and
occasionally I might use some rhyming slang. I don't, not so much since I've been in Spain,
but in the UK, I would use that a little bit. And yeah, we're very common people.
Well, it's not to us, right? Like that. That's a fancy accent.
And then I noticed how I would say the Beatles and all of the European bands,
they don't sound like they're from London or and you started to explain that.
Do you want to talk about that? How that ended up being like
how do you choose an accent when you sing?
It's weird. It's yeah. I mean, I don't know why people adopt this accent when they sing.
A lot of English singers, when they start singing, they will start to sound American
for whatever. I don't know. There seems to be, I don't know. It's very, very strange,
like Adele, for instance, when she talks, she talks like that. She's a proper Londoner
and she's like really brash and she's like, it's horrible to listen to.
But when she's singing, she's like, hello. It's like, hold on. Where did that come from?
We all do it. We're all guilty of doing it. I mean, I've sung in so many different
accents and different styles. I have the ability to choose. If I'm doing a reggae song,
well, I can do a reggae song, man. I can sing like this and I can sing like I've got this
ability to choose a particular sound. Or if I'm if I want to sound more, I don't know,
more black, if you like, I can do like I don't know. I don't want to do a range of voices,
but I can do accents and I can do a rock voice. I can just really reach and find those
those frequencies, if you like. I can find the anger that's required for a rock song,
or I can find the subtlety that's required for a love song. I have that ability.
But it's just, I have these different accents or different tonalities that I have access to,
like a little library that, okay, this song requires that. None of it's really my own voice.
If I was to sing in my own voice, it would sound terrible. It just wouldn't sound maybe
if I was to, you know, I don't know if that would work or not. But when people sing, they're not,
I don't know. I don't really know what my own sound is, really, because I'm always going,
this song's a reggae song. Let's put a little reggae twang on it. You know, so if you're
singing about the nation, you'll be, I would phrase it as the nearsion. Like, it's like,
there's just certain little flex that will just make, you know, the song sound a little
bit like more like the original or it would sound better that way. If I sang a rock song
with this voice, as I'm talking to you now, it would sound terrible. So I think we all
just step into a different character when we're singing like Adele's a good example of that.
And I think we all do it, really. I don't know why we do it. It just,
I just like to mold into the song and choose a voice for that song. And I just, I like
having the ability to do that. That's amazing. Now, your voice, to me, I would characterize
as incredibly unaffected. But obviously I'm not hearing from the accent side. There's
something else, you know, when it ends up, people's voice ends up sounding fake. Or
it can be processing also in the studio, but it's affected. It's again kind of persona
a little bit. Maybe it's the emotion behind it or something. So even though you're using so many
different accents, it comes across as very straight in a good way.
There's a lot of processing that goes on in the music industry, you know, because there's
so many different techniques. I've used them sometimes. But if you really want to get,
see, this is why I'm gravitating more towards a more acoustic sound these days,
because you can get a real natural raw sound with two acoustic guitars and a voice that can
actually be more profound and rather than the big production sound where you're having,
you're doubling up the vocals and you're putting harmonies and there's so much processing that
goes into it. And that's what all of our pop music is. So much process. Let's go listen to
a Taylor Swift song. It's just like stripped down her raw vocal. It won't sound anything
like that. But I'm now a big fan of, you know, just an acoustic guitar and a vocal
and a good vocal or a good harmony. A good example of that is actually
more than words by Extreme. Massive, massive song. It was just a gone acoustic guitar
and one song and one singer and one harmony. It was a beautiful song, albeit in 440. But
songs like that, I think I'm gravitating more to the more natural sound, the more sort of
MTV unplugged era where there used to be talent. You know, if you've ever seen the
MTV unplugged series where like Alanis Morissette or Nirvana or Eric Clapton, big fan of that set was
amazing. So the unplugged, the natural sound, the, you know, the less processed, the, you know,
not harmony pedals and chorus pedals and reverb pedals and, you know, doubling and all of that
processing that goes into it. It's more bastardization, really. But I think you can get
something really pure out of just something very magical. And it's happened at my house
many, many times where we've had people back at my house and there's a couple of guys and we just
pick up acoustic guitars and we play and we sing and it's just something about the acoustic guitar.
We can just pick it up. You don't have to plug it in. You don't have to go, oh,
can we have a little bit less gain on that? Can you, you know, can you turn the reverb up or
the more bass and you just pick up the guitar and go? There's something very raw and beautiful
about that. So that's why a lot of my stuff on my channel now is like more acoustic and just
well thought out and nice harmonies and just pure. And I think there's something,
I want to take music back to that, you know, actually remove the processing. Yes,
I put a bit of reverb on there. But that should be all you need, shouldn't it, really?
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not even against it. I'm just really hungry to hear that
authentic voice, that unprocessed, not even unprocessed, because it's all going to come through
something. If you were to leave it completely alone, you wouldn't like the sound either,
because it's come through those electronics and I don't know, flattens or deadens. You do need
some reverb, like you need to make it warm. But yeah, there's just something I can tell
the difference. I don't care how talented you are. I've seen many, many incredibly
intelligent musicians, singers, and they're technically right on and very good in their
ability. But there's something, it's like it's... Sometimes I would rather have a great song
with a really shit recording, rather than a great song with all this processing. I've
been following people on Facebook, there's a guy, he's clearly a country guy, he's got his
overalls on, he's sitting in a boat and he's just the best songwriter I've ever heard.
He just knows how to tell a story and the quality is not great, he's just a guy with a...
But my God, is it so captivating because you're just captivated by the rawness of it,
because he's telling a story and you don't... The quality of it kind of goes out the
window at that point. You're just listening to a guy on a guitar, telling a story about
a girl he met in a bar and it's just like... I think there's a beauty to that.
I agree totally. And Steve is saying that you use your real voice when you guys sing together
and they are your songs in your style. Yeah, those are some of my all-time favorites.
That's what he thinks, but what he doesn't realize is I'm putting on a voice that...
No, I'm not putting on... That is actually the real me, to be fair, yeah.
When I work with real musicians and good musicians, the real me comes out.
There's only a few songs where I actually use my real voice, which is just me singing from
the heart. But if I want to put a little inflection of reggae there, or if I want to
put a rap and I want to sound more street, more urban, more London, I can do that.
And I've done that with Steve. Actually, I did a rap in a song with Steve where I kind of
go a little bit more urban in that. But I have that ability to do that. I have like a little
selection of things I could choose from if I want them. So that's quite a nice thing to have.
Nice. Yeah, it's like a color's painters in the palette. You got this color and that color
and you can draw... It doesn't take away from the authenticity to me at all.
Jon, really put my finger on... It's probably that intangible thing that you just can't simply
describe. It's nice not to be pigeonholed into... If I was signed to a label, for instance, and
they would put me in this box of, you can only sing these types of songs. And I don't want to do
that. I want to go, oh, do you know what? I'm angry today. I want to do a rock song. Or
I could do something in my full set, which would make it more beautiful or more chill
or whatever. So I like to be able to experiment with all sorts of genres. And thankfully, I didn't
sell myself. Yeah, brilliant. And what's recognition like for you? Did you go from a time where you
felt like you didn't have that too when you did? Yeah, that's a great question. That's a great
one. Yeah, I never got any recognition as a child. Me neither. Yeah, it's one of my
frustrations. It's like, I don't know, I have all sorts of issues with my childhood,
but we won't go there. It's not a therapy session. But when I started putting this music out there,
I started to get the recognition that I was starved of as a child, I feel. And I was getting
that internet hug that I talked about earlier and that little pat on the back. And it was
something I really, really needed and wanted. And that's what spurred me on to do more
people recognizing what I do. And I try and do as many different things in many different genres.
I still think I've got so much more to offer. And there's going to be a lot more coming out where
people go, oh, I didn't realize he could do that. So it's just like a nice little journey where
people are giving me this pat on the back. It's really nice to get a pat on the back,
an internet hug. It's really nice to get those messages and to know that you're reaching
people and touching people. And my family couldn't see it and they will never see it.
They don't understand me. They will never understand why I do what I do. It's a crying shame.
They couldn't see it. And that's really, really frustrating. If it was frustrating for me,
I've let it go now quite a lot now. Because it's now been replaced with people that do
see it, that people that do get it and understand why I sit in this studio for
hours and hours a day, why I do do what I do. Because it has that effect. And I get that
recognition now. It's not a fuel for what I do. But it's really nice to get those nice comments.
So I'm getting the recognition now. And that's a beautiful thing. I feel a little bit more complete.
That's amazing. Yeah, there's two extremes, one where people can't be okay without the
love and approval of others. But then there's also that we can't create in a vacuum.
If you can't, you can sit and do all the best work all day alone. But if it's not
for the sake of connection, there's no purpose in it. It's not, you can't just
fill yourself up that way. It doesn't work that way. It's the hero's journey,
bringing the elixir. And then yeah, so I mean, my life fell on deaf ears for many,
many years until I was like post cancer, actually, that finally, then it's like, well,
what do I have to lose? Life is short, better spend it with people who maybe see me and have
some recognition, not so they can blow the smoke up my butt and make me feel good about myself
when I really feel bad, but just so that we can be with our people. Absolutely.
Being amongst your own is so vital, I think. I've learned to let go of those things that
are holding me back. My family doesn't get me. My family doesn't understand me,
these people, and I've drifted away from that. What I have found is this whole new world of
people that do understand me, that do get me. 80 people came to my villa a few months ago,
and it was to being surrounded by all of these wonderful people. The vibe was incredible,
and I realized that these are my people, these are my family. And I bloody love that.
Yeah, yeah. That's our birthright. We need that.
Starved of that. We've all been starved of that. We've all been so misunderstood,
haven't we, for so many years with family. And it's just like, you know,
I'm the black sheep. In fact, my rock album is called Black Sheep, and there's a track on
there called Black Sheep about being the black sheep of the family, just never fitting in
that square peg in a round hole. And then finally, you know, finding my people.
You know, that's a beautiful, and inviting them to my house was another weird thing.
But yeah, so I feel really vindicated and accepted and appreciated and recognized now.
And that is only going to make me want to do more, isn't it?
Right, exactly. I know, because I can get some backlash or, you know, negative feedback
here or there, which is not very common anymore, just because I vet my audience pretty good.
I'm very myself. So people get turned off with that, and that's perfect. They just,
they're just not there. And so yeah, the more you can get out and reveal yourself, the better
they can recognize you. If you're, this is one of the shadows of the alchemist archetype is
more hiding behind things and not showing your true self, and then you can't be found.
Right, so it's very difficult to to have a tribe that way.
Yeah, no, I love where I am now. And, you know, long may it continue and long may it blossom
and long may it grow. And I'm finding I'm finding a community even here in Spain,
you know, our little cult, as Mike likes to call it, just people under the same,
you know, people with the same understanding, it's growing and growing and growing.
I've been here 10 years, but finally, you know, I'm finding my tribe locally and online as well.
And once I get my visa issues sorted, I'll be attending more conferences and performing at
more conferences as well. Because this is my thing now, you know, amongst people that I love,
respect them, people that love and respect me, it's a whole new thing in my life. And it's
glorious, you know, to be to be to be appreciated, you know, to be just to be recognized. It's a
beautiful thing. So, yeah, I definitely want to do more of that once I get my my travel situation
sorted. And but in the meantime, whilst I'm sort of bound to Spain for now, you know, I'm always
making more music and just putting my thoughts, you know, into music and hoping that it will
resonate with with people which seems to be doing, you know, so, you know, you know,
long live the truth and long live truth music and conscious music. Amen, brother. I love it.
So if there was a song to play out, what would you choose? I got your YouTube here. Now the
problem is I'm a member, and I do recommend everyone go and become a member of this channel.
But I don't want to play anything that's going to be out of your bounds. So is there
something that you could recommend? What do you mean out of my bounds? I can play
something that's members only? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And what do you think is the
best? Oh, there's Steve with his mouth wide open. That's Steve's reaction to that video.
Do you know what you wake up some day is very, very popular.
We're going back a year or so. Keep going down, keep going, keep going, keep going,
keep going, keep going, keep going. There to the right, to the right. Down a bit.
Up a bit. Sorry. Up, up, up, up, up, up. One more. Up one more. There it is. There you
wake up some day. Okay. That got a lot of traction. That's a great song. All right.
Can you guys hear it? Yeah. Excellent.
Better open your eyes, sir. They hate the same thing.
You don't have either. And that's why you're down. They're never going to change
all your heads in the ground. They don't want you going anywhere except six feet underground.
I believe in those dawg lying wolves on the screen. Whose words you believe in those pockets
are green or you're green with envy. You guess it's okay. I promise everybody else is getting
stepped on the same way. You think you have freedom but you'll wake up some day.
So they tax you and drug you and work you to death. They defeat you and cheat you until
your last breath. They may poison your body and waste all your time. And they put on your
strength to dissolve in your mind. You think you make choices but you're just
last in line. They be churching you, schooling you, ruling you through, selling you, telling
you it's good for you. They abuse you, confuse you and use you each day. Then they paralyze
you, sterilize you. That's how they play. And you trust them, you lust them, do you
anything they say? And they make you their pet because you signed your name away.
You think you have freedom but you'll wake up some day. But still you play.
Yes, you think you have freedom but you'll wake up some day. There's just no way.
You think you have freedom but you'll wake up some day.
Oh man, the harmonies. That just gets me right here. I tell you, the two of you guys,
what a pure sound that is. And you might be muted because I had to mute you for your...
Yeah, there you go. Now you can hear.
Yeah, so beautiful. So beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all
your music for this wonderful conversation. I'm getting a little bit chaste. I got
someone who wants to come and fix my dishwasher and I'm going to need that.
This is a really messy around here right now. Oh, I know the feeling. I know the
feeling. We've had boiler problems today. Shelly took us, my wife took us a cold shower.
Yeah, we've got, I'm decorating. I get it. I get it. Go tend to what you need to tend to.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So getting some good appreciation in the chat here. And I hope you
have a beautiful rest of your holiday season. Thank you again for coming on and spreading your
joy. It is kind of the solstice where we're at the shortest moments of the year here in the
Northern Hemisphere at least. And so it's an auspicious day to do this. Thank you so much.
It's been a total pleasure. I've enjoyed it thoroughly. Thank you.
Good. Yeah, my pleasure. I do have a few announcements, but you're welcome to
go or just stick around for that on the theme of creativity. I'm offering a new course starting
in January on the 14th. And this is exactly the process that I use every time I get into
a creative slump for one reason or another. If life knocks me around, which it has,
it knocks me around fairly regularly. And I, you know, I've got the tools to heal and recover from
that stuff, but it's always, okay, like, how am I going to come back into the world now after the
world has come to an end? So I'm actually teaching the process of that. Now what I've used all my life
to get back into a place of being truly inspired and creating from a place of freedom rather than
fear. And so I'm excited to offer this 12-week course starting in January. And there's lots of
great people signing up right now. The Early Bird is going to be on only for seven more days starting
today. So the 29th, I'll be back here with Dr. Jacob Lieberman. If you've, I don't know if
you've heard of him, Alex. He's a, he actually, he's an eye doctor and he got, he had a
spontaneous awakening and is extremely smart. I don't think he's awake. He didn't wake
up. He's a doctor. So it'll be like the first person I've hosted since 2020 that really didn't
understand what's going on with that, but he's got enough. I can't wait to tune into that then.
That's going to be an interesting conversation. I know, I know I'm going to have to be really
delicate not to, not to call him out. You never know. I've been known to say. Oh, you'll
smash it. Very good. And so if we're not already acquainted, it's best to come to my website,
sign up to do a King Hero archetype quiz so that we're connected by email and not dependent
on these platforms that do come and go. And I've lost an entire channel here already.
I'm up on Spotify and iTunes. That's where you can go and find the oldest archives of everything
and stuff I probably don't agree with at all anymore. Looks like I can't stream to X anymore.
They, they fraudulently charged me $560 for something I didn't order. So I did a bank
dispute and now they've instantly like canceled me. I can't, I can't live stream and
yeah. So they don't like me anymore, but I just didn't want to pay that money. And
I think that's all for now. So you can visit my website, Bathmartins.com for any information
about my course coming up or anything else. And definitely go and visit HealingWithFrequencies.net
and ConspiracyMusicGuru.com. Is that correct? That's correct. And the YouTube,
um, here is the video that we just played by the way. So you can get a direct link to that.
And I hope I can have you on again and meet you in person. Absolutely. Well,
one day it will happen, I'm sure. Okay. Fantastic. Yeah. You, me and, and Steve,
we're going to be doing some singing. I'll hold that in mind. Yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait.
Yeah. And I'll send you my music, by the way, as I think. Please do. Please do.
Okay. All right. Well, everyone have a beautiful rest of your day. I am going to
play us out with another piece by my son that he had.
Sorry, that was too fast. I'm sure you're happy there. And yeah, shout out to him, Psycho. He's,
he's got a job moving snow right now. So he's working around the clock and really industriously.
So shout out to him. If he hears this, which I will, I will ask him to listen because
it's interesting from the music side. Sure. All right, everyone. Thank you,
Alex, and have a beautiful rest of your day. Everyone else as well. Okay. Bye for now. Bye.
Bye.