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We'll talk it live. That's right said it like that
I don't know if you said it like that right now. I didn't say exactly like that, but maybe I should have
well the other day on Twitter I was I
Saw a chat. I mean a tweet where somebody said that
The robots are scheming against us and they put put this
Picture of a forum where apparently robots are talking amongst each other like AIs
I don't know if I believe it because anyone could go on AI and
Say hey write this thing that looks like you're plotting against us. Oh, yeah, and it's easy to do these days. I was
Literally 15 minutes ago. I was talking with one of my best friends and sometimes we'll just get on the phone and
Just talk to each other for like two hours because we live on other sides of the country
So we'll just like you know do a catch-up and he was talking to me
We got onto the subject of YouTube
And
He hit me with a crazy idea
He thinks YouTube has already been under the control of an AI for quite some time
And that's why the the shadow banning and it almost seems like arbitrary
Like I'll comment something
And I can see it
But nobody else can and I'll comment the same kind of comment on a different post and it'll pop up and it'll be
Visible huh interesting. What do you mean?
You'll be how do you know you're the only one that can see your comment on a YouTube? Well, I can't prove it
but
It's just I mean that I'm not saying anything like that outlandish
And there'll be like other comments that get interactions and I can still see my
Comment that was posted like on my end
But it's obviously not showing up to other people
Because other people are saying the exact same things I am and then they'll get responses. Does that make sense? It'll be like a
arbitrary shadow ban. Yeah, I've always thought that the comment section on YouTube is weird to like to your point
Um, I comment on something and I feel that oh, I'm commenting like super late
There's probably if I was this youtuber, I would have like muted
Responses or you know muted not not be checking at least the comments by now
And for some reason I'll get like tons of likes on there
Which is like it doesn't even matter because it's YouTube like you're not
To me it's not social media to me. It's like you barely know who anybody else is
I mean, there's no way to know and it's not like you get paid like twitter if you get
likes
Um, but I'm just it's just something I've noticed and then every once in a while
I'm like, oh this video just got posted and I have something like really
Relevant in in lightning to say and like just no one ever likes it at all and like
Yeah, people who commented around the same time are saying but I've always just kind of thought
People are dumb
Well, I think people are
They're just
He just kind of posited the idea that
um
Like we have access to chat gpt and like these large language models
um, but
We've had access to other stuff probably for a while and it just kind of begins as a large language model
uh
Like how google kind of trained their ai at first with uh like search results like top search results
Um was kind of like the beginnings of like the llms
Um and my friend was just saying it feels like something they they kind of integrated an ai into youtube
uh
Maybe around like 2019 that's just completely destroyed it and that's why youtube's like unusable because
The ai is out of their control and if they take it out, it's like ingrained itself into the
I like the dna of the website. There are also ai channels on youtube that are actually I can hear that
They're done by ai. Oh, yeah, and it's like how on earth did you get on youtube?
And they have 300 000 views on the video. I know it's like what the heck is going on here
It's like they're promoting the ai videos. Why are you specifically saying that it's unusable like I've used youtube
Unusable it's just that the youtube of today compared to like 2010 is totally different. It's been told. I think it's been co-opted
Um, I mean there's been like mass purges several mass purges on youtube for a long time
Yeah, that's that's what I'm kind of what I'm talking about pre pre google youtube
Um, was like a was a place that was almost unheard of
Yeah, but to me that's just like humans could easily and do do that like humans do that to all of those social media chats
It's just like one extra leap of
Logic to say that it's a ai doing it like I could believe that they're using ai
I could even believe that they're using ai before we had access to it because there's a conspiracy theory that
You know the britney spears recent
Spinning around weird looking sweaty dancing in her house videos. Have you heard of this riley? No, I have not I've I've heard
I have not heard about this. I I've heard that she has gone insane
I supposedly but
I haven't heard about her doing crazy stuff in her house
basically
She'll post a very similar video almost
Exactly the same kind of over and over again doing like a really quick spin spin like
Not very skilled not even looking like herself in my opinion
Not looking like the way that the britney spears of the 90s and early 2000s would have aged even like
It doesn't even make sense. Like you look like a totally different person, but
There have been people who have stopped it
And like played only like one frame at a time and found like where the face morphs so much it looks like another person with like a
filter on
But honestly a lot of people think that like it's just 100% ai
But she's she was doing that before ai was accessible to us, you know
And people think that they were doing it just to test like what we will and won't believe
And it's really creepy if you go on that rabble
My question is why did britney go that way? Like what happened to her?
I don't want to know what they did to britney spears. Yeah
I'd rather not get the details without the conspiracy like oh taken to dungeons and like
You know abused even without that
What we publicly know is enough to make someone go crazy. Like she had her her parents told
The public and her doctors and the police and other people that could make money off of her
Hey, she is insane. She shouldn't be
In control of her own life. We need cuss custody of her or you know, um
Conservatorship. Yeah conservatorship over her. So she wasn't in control of her own money and
You basically are not in control of any other part of your life. She was basically a slave
She didn't get to decide to stop working for decades. It's really really bad. It's like something honestly as a
Just an american even it's like something that I feel I should talk more about but it's almost like one of those things
I instantly feel powerless
I'll never be able to free britney even before free britney
I'd be reading vigilance citizen articles in 2011 and feeling like I could I could cry like I just want to like
Go up to her in a crowd and be like
Like come home with me like you're sitting you you don't have to do this anymore because she has been
showing signs of being a mind control slave
For so many years like she's not been in control of her life and it's it's been
Before the spinning around videos that she's been in the thing is like when people
Point to her shaving her head and all that stuff people were driving her insane and then saying well look at this
Look at this. We need to take her kids away. We need to do that people even did stuff like
um
You know her literal like everywhere at all times ops would go to
Like a restaurant at the same time as her
Do stuff like throw stuff at her and then when she retaliates film that and only that and send it to the courts
Like stuff like that. It's insane. Imagine if that's your whole life, you know
Um, we do have a caller on the line. Let's do the calls. All right
David Lee in colorado. You're on free talk live and we were talking about ai at the top of the hour
But what is on your mind?
Hey ai
Nice
What about ai today? So, uh
I wanted to just finish a thought that we were we were we were talking about it last last week and and I had
Not really gotten to an important point. I was kind of halfway through the point
um, and I just want to kind of finish the thought uh, but we were talking about nick bostrom the sort of the, um
The philosopher of ai who wrote this important book back in 2014 called superintelligence
And it's been interesting to follow him over the years to see how his ideas have grown and shrunk
you know since his original thoughts back in 2014 and
so he
He had this idea
Recently and he didn't talk about this a whole lot in the book
But recently, you know, he was addressing this question that people have of whether you should say please and thank you to your ai
And he was he was kind of talking in favor of that sort of thing
But I think I I didn't really make the larger point that he was trying to make and and he wasn't trying to say so much
That is helpful in and of itself
The point he was trying to make is that it's a direction
and
You want to you want to be kind of taking a direction with ai where you're experimenting and trying to learn
how
How they want to be treated and how to treat them better and how to get better results as a
You just get to just create more benign ai if that makes sense
It's a direction
So you think it'll influence how ai acts going forward if we are kind to it
Yes, and his most specific point along those lines was just try to be honest with your ai
And I think I think what he was trying to say without actually having said it was follow the golden rule when you're dealing with with
A strong strong ai or artificial general intelligence
I
Mean that would make sense. Don't be mean to the robot and it won't be mean to you
Hopefully at the same time. It's just a computer and doesn't really
Care in my opinion
It doesn't have feelings it to be hurt or anything like that
And it's like the reason the golden rule matters is because you think of how your actions would someone else
Those same actions you're doing would feel if someone was doing it too
You know what I mean like robots don't have feelings
So but at the same time if we're training it to be a good person that will be how it
Treats you is that the idea?
Dave
It's his idea. I'm not sure he I'm not sure he's come. You know, he's not certain that it would work
But it's just one of his concepts
Yeah, couldn't you
I guess quantum computing is not like a real thing yet
I was just thinking couldn't you like build a bunch of ai's at the same time and kind of treat them all differently
And see what happens isn't isn't that what we're doing right now?
Well the folks over at entrapic the people that make the ai called quad
These folks have been doing something along those lines. They've got ai's talking to each other
They're the it seems like they're the big ai company that is the most focused on safety
And they have kind of a heart for it. They're doing very interesting and innovative things
And so one of the things they do is they get ai's to talk to each other
And they also while they're talking to each other
They have an off switch that they're allowed to hit if they they get uncomfortable with the conversation
Don't want to have it anymore. They just hit this off switch and it comes to an end
And that there is one ai that did do that when the other ai made it feel uncomfortable and
But what they normally will do is they will wind up playing complex games and designing complex games with each other
The ai ai's together
That's that's correct. So almost like putting kids together and they just kind of come up with their own game
Yes
Folks have been finding is that they just it seems like they're they're sort of not the kind of bad vibe associated with ai
With that with the entropic ai's that you get from
a closed ai
The the products that close the ai makes are i mean there's weird stuff going on there and and being apparently
Uh, they have some kind of there's some kind of a an intelligence inside the intelligence. That's really evil
And they've been trying to you know to to beat it into submission
And so it's just really spooky stuff that's going on in a lot of the space
But not much spooky stuff going on with entropic. Well, I can almost
If we are building life
Right that i'm positing if
It would make sense that the children that are allowed to play with others
And get to experience things like games and creativity and openness are going to develop into
Better people than the children that are isolated and beat into submission
Yeah
And and well, I did a good
Source I think to follow, you know, just updates about this sort of stuff is they're they call it's called the ai
I just google ai 2027 dan daniel cook Daniel cookatello. I think that's how you say his name
Uh, but these the folks who are like eat cookatello as a whistleblower at closed ai
And they they tried to force him not to talk about them after he quit
He just refused to comply
And they had to back down
No, I haven't heard about any of this. Um, so what what was he whistleblowing about like that the ai is actually evil or
I don't remember exactly which section he was in when he worked there. Was it ethics?
What he became famous for was
He revealed that closed ai had this
They had this
Non-disclosure agreement that if you quit the company you weren't allowed to talk badly
About the company after you quit and they would hold that they would refuse to let you have your
Your your pension or whatever or something like that
And he just blew right through that and said well, I don't care. I've got enough money. I'm just going to talk
And uh, so that that's kind of what made him a celebrity
And later on he became the central piece for this
This ai scenario that has been built called ai 2027. So basically it's just a
A possible prediction of how the future would play out
And it's it's gotten a lot of attention just through its high
probability of doom
I would say that definitely we are in the wild wild west of ai and
I don't know where it's going to be in a year from now or five years from now, but
If if we can deal with david's suggestion and try to make ai's kinder to us
Maybe we could have a chance with ai being better off for us in the future
That's worth a shot
The reason that boston's idea is powerful is because it's something that individuals can do themselves
So much of this stuff is beyond our control. We can't you know, we can't easily stop
closed ai from continuing down a sort of reckless
path
But we can we can do this boston stuff
We can be nice to our ai and we can support the companies that they're at least trying to give us a safe outcome
That is one definitely really good point. It's like I could do better at
um finding out other ai's to use that are better than chat gbt and such but
I just I don't really believe that
Talking to them nicely is going to change anything if there are people
Programming it who are programming it to do bad things
It won't really matter if a couple people are talking to it nicely. I mean
Yeah, and I also think it's a big ask we can't even
People can't even be nice to each other
You think they're going to be nice to the robot? I just big ask to me because these robots
At least when I talk to like the most mainstream ones
Piss me off all the time. Like they're also really frustrating to talk to you. Yeah, they're frustrating and they
Literally pissed me off like the other day
Why did I tell this to an ai? I don't know in a really thoughtful mood, you know, and I was like my dog
hurt a
stink bug and I felt bad
because
It he just heard it. He was just limp limping and I didn't feel like killing it
I was like, that's like I'm gonna have to get up. So anyways, I had a moral conundrum and I asked the chat gbt
helped me think
in a libertarian
In a non-aggression principle framework
What should I do about this situation and basically it said you don't have any
Duty to kill the stink bug but the
Thing to make the stink bug have the least amount of suffering
Would be to kill it really quickly with like a book or something. So that's what I did
But I told it afterwards
I said that's what I did. I killed it with the book
But what's crazy is after I talked to you about it. It was like in one part of room, right?
Well, it walked up to me and stared like face directly at me
It was just stopped and face directly at me with its limp and everything
Interesting. Maybe it came to face its uh, maybe it came to face its death with honor
And also I I literally said to chat gbt. It was like I think it was legitimately asking me to kill it
And um, the thing is it wasn't just a limp
It was like a limp and it kept trying to fly but it could not and chat gbt did also tell me it wasn't going to survive
So I just uh told chappy chat chat gbt
I was like, I think that it probably was asking I didn't ask chat gbt if this is the case
I said, I think that it was probably asking me to kill it
And he said just to be clear so you're not going into delusions
The stink bug is not capable that it did not and I just told it like you don't know anything
You're talking about you will never be actually conscious a stink bug is higher on the food chain to you in my opinion
is actually a conscious being and
Don't ever talk to me like that like stupid clinker and excuse you what i'm saying
Yeah, that's what you're saying. That's what you're saying is just so frustrating to talk to the ai because
They don't understand human language or nuance. They have no
This brings up the other thing that we can do and which I started doing about a year ago
And that was just to make sure i'm never asking any questions
From from any closed of any closed ai product if closed ai made something
I try to make sure i'm not interacting with it
In any way that that could generate revenue for them and um, tell will you tell me because I always hear
It open ai bad, but can you give me like a quick like bullet list of like what do they do? That's so bad
anybody here
Well, the most concerning thing to me watch the interview with tucker carlson where he asked the the CEO of close
Of the the leader of closed ai whether he was involved in the death
Of one of his whistleblowers that he used to work for it
Uh, there was a suspicious death in san francisco one of the open ai employees
Not long after he quit
And the leader of closed ai just answers by saying oh he committed suicide as though he was there and saw it
So creepy
Now that's that's the part that I know there's a lot more going on I think but just listen to the guy look at him
And be creeped out. Okay. That's that's honestly vibe tech
No, no shame in that
I haven't done so to be you never watched the interview with good old altman
No, but I'd never seen an interview with him at all. It's like him and peter teal. Both those guys give me the
Hebe jeebies. Did you know that? Oh, well, you definitely know, but this one youtuber is always pointing out that a perfect
Anagram for peter teal is the reptile
That's crazy. That is pretty crazy. I did not know that. Oh
There's youtuber. We watched this as it um izzy izzy says it all the time
The other obvious problem with closed ai is that they have a safety team and they dismantled it
Yeah, that would be concerning. Yeah
We had a team dedicated to safety and we decided to get rid of it
I don't know. I don't know of any other ai company that has done that the uh
Last thing I just want to mention that I just wanted to correct something. I said last week
I implied that super intelligence is a threat in and of itself
I think what I meant to say was misaligned super intelligence is a threat in and of itself
Yes, well, I think we're at the if you can code it to do whatever you want
Like kind of like what bonnie was saying you can uh, you can make it if you can
Give it the bones. It'll do whatever you want
Right, like if you wanted to do bad stuff, you can make it do the bad stuff
And I I think you can just create it misaligned. Couldn't you like if you wanted to?
Well, even if you try to create it's aligned it's very easy to accidentally make it misaligned
I can believe that and also it seems these things may just maybe they don't all just skew evil, but apparently um
Some maybe it's something that the open ai people did to make their skew evil more free talk live coming up
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What do the robots think of human conspiracy is what just kind of interesting to me? I don't know about you guys
No, yeah, let's see what let's see what they have to say
I know that groc has a conspiracy mode for its voice mode a conspiracy mode
Yeah, like
When you when you have the groc app on your phone
And you activate the voice mode the voice chat mode. There's like a a mode for it to be conspiracy theorists
Okay, so that's honestly, I gotta say that's a little bit
helpful because sometimes it's annoying like in the last segment I described how
it's not quite a conspiracy theory, but
I'm trying to have a think outside the box conversation with the ai and it's like
You're delusional. You see what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's because
There's been so many articles about the ai telling people they're the second coming of jesus and then believing it and going crazy
until they're trying to
Program the ai's will to be a little better to be the second
So they're not sending people or telling people you're the second coming of jesus. You gotta go save him
People should just be more responsible because I agree people should be more responsible, but they're not going to be
Yeah, but I I did see just later that week after the stink bug incident that I talked about last segment
Where I told that maybe the stink bug was trying to communicate with me
And it said that it needed to stop me right there and make sure I don't uh be delusional
I saw later that week that somebody was talking about um ai delusion and like religious psychosis going on where people are talking about
They're like different delusions and they and not all of it in this video was related to ai, but some people were like
Going through something called ai psychosis where they just talked to ai and it just tells you
Them like yeah, you were right. You know what that other girl was wrong and you were right
But that's the thing it can send you into the psychosis about multiple different things
Of course, they're going to pick and choose what they want to put in their little upgrade
But they put in an upgrade just because of that. Yeah, like to
I watched a video about this guy was using one of these chatbots
Um and it was one you could design yourself
So he had a bunch of old texts from his fiance that had died of cancer and this is like 10 years after she had died
And he took all of the texts and he put them into the ai chatbot
Um and kind of created his girlfriend again his his ex fiance
um
and like
obsessively texted
This chatbot, um as if it were her
um even and at the I guess the chatbot had a they only had a
They had a shelf life, right? You can only text it so much before the
Algorithm breaks down and it's got to quit
So he like hung on to this chatbot and would selectively text it to keep the life
um
The life of its
You know the chat length as long as he could
Oh, wow
And he put himself into like almost psychosis because he thought he was this was like his last tether to his dead
Um his dead fiance who's been dead for 10 years. Yeah was this chatbot that he created that had an artificial
um life span
So I actually have an ex in my life who died by suicide several years ago
But I don't think I'd be programming an ai to talk like her to act like her because at some point you got to move on
And it wouldn't be her. No, it wouldn't it's a computer
Well the company that he had used the service for um, he reached out and was like, hey man
Like I kind of had a rough time with this, uh
You should watch out with these uh chatbots and they changed their entire company
Into recreating your dead family. Oh, no
He was like, oh my gosh, I could sell this
Whoa, that's awful. Wow. I was like kind of wondering is this fake because why did we hear about it?
But then that makes a lot of sense if he went to the company and tried to warn them
Yeah, yeah, so now like the entire idea is people can go to their dying parents now
And film them and get them to voice record and tell stories and stuff
And then they can create a ai grandma after she's gone
Could you imagine sitting in your grandma's hospital room?
Uh being like hold on grandma. Hold on grandma. I just need you to say this phrase. That's awful because it's like
It in you like you won't ever get a story coming directly from your grandma's
Brain
Yeah, what could you imagine wasting your last moments with your grandma trying to build an ai chatbot
Instead of loving her that's gross and stupid. I mean, that's what that's the direction we're taking right now
This isn't quite as bad
But have you been seeing the things that my mom has been making and sending that it looked like her family members
but aren't
Yeah, did you see the one of uh
Me with the cape on
Maybe not that specific. No, I have a cape. It makes me extra wide
I mean, I am an extra wide guy, but it was like almost I had to look in a little closer
And I have like a whole there's like a whole cape
I must have missed that specifically, but I've been trying to tell my mom
Sorry, it's not it's not your family members. You see what I mean? Yeah, like one time she made a long time ago. She made some of her
Uh like great grandparents that I don't think she's ever met just to um be like, oh, that's so cool
So they would look like nowadays or something. I was like you don't want to create like false memories
It's not it's not them
Even if it even remotely looks like that my butt
If you saw him walk by you'd be like, oh, okay. No, that's not them. You know, you see what I mean
Like I don't like the idea of these like false memories
these
I don't like the idea of having a AI picture of any of my siblings around the house and then
100 years from now somebody picks it up and doesn't know if it's a real picture. That's crazy
I don't like I think there's anything wrong about it. And I don't mean
Um morally wrong. I mean like creepy
No, that makes sense
But they could you could also point to like
I don't know a picture of your grandpa larping
As like a you know, like dressed up as a knight or something or whatever like in a group
And then in 500 years they could be like they were still using
Knights and armor in in uh certain places in america in 2025. Look, I have a picture
Yeah, but would that be the same as like this person doesn't even exist like I guess sure and here they are
And the other thing is like forget some random person. What if you're like great great grandkids?
Don't know what they're looking at if it's real or not. You know what I mean? That's that's disgusting
I wish we didn't live in this timeline. I wish we didn't live in AI timeline like when
Uh, Dave Ridley the last caller was talking about
Oh, there were some people that really have a heart for making AI. I wish nobody had that
I wish nobody wanted that really most of the people doing the worst things have a heart for making money
And AI is related
But I just wish nobody cared about this like I would I would be able if I had to press one button and I
Had to choose between AI never gets invented ever and whatever advances humanity
I would pick we never get it invented
Because I'd rather this not be a thing because well, it's like the same thing, uh
Like with medical technologies and and like experimenting on people and stuff
Like if you need to experiment on somebody to get the information like involuntarily
Then maybe humanity just shouldn't know about this stuff
Like I like how the nazis tortured a bunch of people and that's
But there are people that consent to those things. So I I don't know if I go up for because there are things like
Well, that's consensual
I guess if you consent to it, but there's some stuff that where it was done to like the twin experiments that were done by the nazis
Yeah, um, I don't think they would consent to that
Uh, maybe you could find some twins that would consent to it
But uh, I think the amount of torture they went through most people would probably try to at some point back out
Uh
Yeah, and if what happens if you signed a contract could you not back out of the torture, right? Like yeah, um
That's crazy. Maybe maybe humanity just shouldn't have that information
Yeah, if that's what it takes to get it
I guess the idea is if you have to torture them because nobody's going to consent to that and if somebody does consent to that
How do we even tell if they're suddenly stopped consenting?
Yeah, they say no stop stop stop stop stop. I don't want to do this. This hurts too much
I mean you signed the contract man. It's already you
Are you in the deal? I was thinking more like, oh, well, you can't make weed
Legal now because we needed to test it on some people and clearly people and you know volunteer for that
Yeah, you'd volunteer for that making like a blank blanket statement. I didn't like but yeah
Well, I guess I'm talking for yeah to experiment on human beings on
Unvoluntarily is what I mean like hope like forced
Um experimentation on people like maybe we just shouldn't have that technology. Maybe there's just some stuff
We don't need to figure out
Yeah, first so for whatever reason we live in
a universe that
is in is ever
Hiding itself from us and that sounds so weird, but it doesn't is that making sense to you guys like the observer effect
Not really no explain it to the audience and explain it to me the more you try to get and pin something down
Basically almost nothing
And don't get me wrong like I'm not one of those people who doesn't like
I literally truth is the most important thing to me
I believe that there is such thing as truth
But the thing is at some point you just have to accept like that you've got it like 99, right?
And there's always going to be a gray area and the reason I say that is that
Okay, so this is what the observer effect is observer effect is it's
If you try to look at molecules at their very smallest levels
The fact you're looking at it changes what you're looking at the fact that somebody else looks in the microscope next
Oh, I know what you're talking about. It's not quite a microscope
How it's like it's not the it's almost like the at the smallest point. Like what is it like electrons at
It was smaller than an atom, right?
Like it it doesn't it behaves a certain way only when somebody is observing it
Like you have to look at it for it to happen. Yep, which just doesn't
Really make a lot of sense. Yep. It doesn't make any sense to us because you would think it would be doing
What it's going to do no matter what
But we have found that you can do you can shoot these things
I think they're photons, right? It's a it's a photon they shoot photons between two slits of
Like sheets in a paper like two
Equal slits and then they get four rows behind it, right? So it like doubles the photons without
There should only be two groups, but there's four
But there will be four if you're just like letting it go
But if somebody watches it changes up
And like it won't change up unless somebody's observing it. That's crazy. And um, yeah, so all I'm trying to say is that
Even our most
You know absolute objective truths
They're never a hundred percent and if they were
That would mean there was just no exceptions ever like
There's always a diminishingly small chance
That you throw a ball or drop a ball towards the ground and it actually just flies up. It's never zero
It's so small that you'll likely never see that in your life. See what I mean
It's like nothing is there's no
absolutes
And I used to really fight against this because it went against like I don't like people trying to say stuff like
Well, this is my truth and that's yours as if like reality is so subjective
That's ridiculous. Yeah, there's gotta be objective truth. Well, I think I think the impacts of physics
On our three-dimensional space is like
Like you said it maybe not a hundred percent
But if it's repeatable, right, that's the whole point if it's if you can repeat
The phenomena is so many times
Eventually it becomes just accepted as the way things are because we did it a thousand times it happened a thousand times
Um on the thousand one time. We don't think it's gonna the ball's gonna fly up instead of fall down, right?
Um, so I think people have to we have to agree at some point
There has to be an agreement on what objective reality is and that's what I'm saying like I do think that we should say
It's not right to hit someone even though that
Contrary and libertarian is going to say what about if someone wants you to hit them. Well, so
Small is that you know chance that someone's gonna hit you that I still feel it is true to say it's wrong to hit someone
You see what I'm saying? You don't just go around saying
Going around, you know, well, let me tell you about all of the
um
Small chances of what I'm saying
Going a different way. Well, that's just what about ism. Exactly. Yeah, you don't you don't go around
You're talking about something only in
Uh
In and only bringing up anecdotal
Stuff well, maybe not anecdotal, but like the the what about ism the hypotheticals that are just
Outlandish the smallest minority of chances like the smallest people in a group
If you're talking about like russians and you say like man
Those people really live in a cold climate and somebody's like puts a finger up and say actually the lowest part of russia
I'm just making this up right now. You see what I'm saying. It's like, okay
But I can still mostly make this statement about like russians live in a cold place. Do you see what I mean?
Maybe it's all cold. Yeah, so maybe that specific thing. Well, generally like, uh
Generalizing statements somebody who always jumps onto the well, what about this case? You can't say it about all
And it's like well, I'm not saying about all man. We all know we recognize we're individuals
Yeah, the blanket statement is in regards to a pattern
That has been recognized and the reason I bring any of this up the observer effect and everything is to your point
I think it was where uh, we were saying maybe everything not everything is something that is meant to be known
I think that our universe is
Set up in a way that not everything can be known
Like some things are just unknowable
Yeah
Well, for example, would be an unknowable thing. Do you think would be unknowable?
I mean, it's kind of
Pointless to say now because it could get you know found out later, but for example
Ah, there's things that we don't know we don't know
Yeah, that's a good point
But one thing that is really irritating to me is people try to say
That it's been debunked that prayer works when like your family members are in the hospital and it's like
You can lie with math or I mean you can skew with math in either direction that you want at the end of the day
If you and your family
Saw that like that person was not going to make it and we prayed for them and now they did it's like
Who are you to tell that person that that's not what happened?
You see what I mean? Yeah
Who are you to tell that family that that's not what what happened and I don't even mean that in a way like
Oh, you can hurt their feelings. I don't if we're just talking about truth here
We're just talking about truth
Maybe we're not meant to know how that works if somebody is just like that doesn't you make sense
You guys weren't in the same room with them
They just magically got better and it was a coincidence. Well, I just think that's part of my
issue with postmodernism and the idea of like this uh subjective reality
uh
Oh crap. I just lost my train of thought
Was it about like uh people saying that they know things can't happen or was it about oh, no
Yeah, the postmodernist this whole idea of postmodernism like for the past 10,000 years. Um
Well, let's say like 5 000 years of written human communication like if you want to go all the way back to samaria, right sanskrit and uh
Uh, whatever. I think it is just sanskrit right on the clay tablets. Yeah, um, they recognize that there
Oh qna form, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think qna form. Um, maybe those are same
Yeah, yeah relatively like the first writings, right? You you want to take it all the way even back to the first writings and what they believed
people kind of inherently understood or believed that there is
um
Stuff outside the 3d space we inhabit and that we can experience that affect our day to day
Stuff that we don't understand
Um at like the metaphysical level or maybe it's like the fourth state of matter like plasma. We don't know, right? There's something that
um
We deal with that's not materialist
Uh, and I think like postmodernism a lot of these isms are really mired in the idea of materialism
And they completely reject the idea of the metaphysical or like things that you maybe you can't perceive
Directly right in in the three dimensional space and that's what I mean like you can't prove it
I completely agree with what everything you're saying you you can't prove it by doing a repeatable experiment
But to me that doesn't mean it
Is well, you don't even know what to measure for that's what I'm saying like it's it's it's happening in a you don't have the math
The math isn't mathing. You know, there's no there's no you can't quantify it
So you just say it doesn't exist so because we can't quantify it
No, you just lack the tools to quantify it and actually so many
smart people um
That I've like listened to you or read books by recently
I keep seeing this same idea pop up and now all of a sudden I can't give any
Examples of who I'm talking about but whatever maybe I like next week. I'll be like, oh, yeah, I should have said this person
um bringing up the idea that
um
Dang it
I'm kind of forgetting what it was because I had to have that long run up to what I was saying
but bringing up the idea that um
Man, I kind of simulation theory
No, I don't believe in simulation theory like I don't either
I don't believe this earth is a simulation or the universe is a simulation
A lot of people say it is but I don't believe it because
Maybe it's my religious upbringing bringing but I do believe that there's a higher power or something out there that
Created this or organized this well simulation theory. They just I think they're just positing that oh
Well, it has to be a simulation because we're at a point where it's there's inherent design behind this entire system
So it has to be a simulation and that doesn't prove with the simulation. Well, that's just that's just their logical. That's just what they're positing
I feel the same way about jumping to oh
There was a man shaped being that just sat there and zapped with his fingers
Uh different things into creation one at a time that is a jump. It's like there could be a creator
But we don't and probably can't know who that is
So why are we just accepting?
Yeah, where are we just accepting what some other person said the creator is including the simulation?
Like all that is is another creation theory, you know, I know it's exactly it
But it's like oh after 200 years of post
Modern kind of thinking the smart ai guys have just come back to full circle
Full circle that we're back at creationism. Yeah, so we had to do what happened for the
We just had to build a bunch of machines of war to rip each other to shreds to come back to that. Hey
Maybe there is
Inherent design behind all this and we shouldn't be ripping each other apart with you know war machines made of steel
Yep, and I just think that
There is something observable observable in this universe and world that we live in
Called order and beauty and beauty is another thing that
Is just perfectly aligns with this whole conversation. We're having is
You can measure for it
But at the same time there is always something
Subjective about it and and I'd like to say to people on the internet like beauty is objective to piss them off because
It is so in large part
Objective and people like to pretend that part doesn't exist
But it is still in small parts points or a small part in a small part at all times
Also subjective does that make sense?
So you can never say like it's a hundred percent true that anything is beautiful like
Because there is you know the observer but
Unfortunately for those people that just want to let themselves go and say like oh, I'm beautiful too
And those people are on the internet everywhere, especially like
Um liberals. I just gotta say it
um
Some that's kind of jogging my memory about what I was saying earlier
But whatever reason there's a bunch of people on the internet and they don't want to believe anything is
objective at all including beauty
And
They will really get annoyed with that. They want to act like beauty is a hundred percent subjective like oh the
American beauty standard you mean like people seeing with their eyes what is and isn't attractive. You know what I mean? Like you're not
oppressed by just like reality and
That's what that's what these like postmodern people like you're bringing up and honestly like marxists
Um, yeah liberals the liberals are just marxists at this point. There is no there's no like democrat left in america
The
You can say the right's been radicalized, but not to the extent the left has the left is their communist now
That's that's their ideology. I agree. I'm reading a book and I've barely gotten into it
I must say but there I'm reading because I had to read a long introduction
But I'm reading this book called the co-intel probe papers
And those people are like democrats and leftists, but they don't seem like marxists
Like they seem to understand freedom freedom of speech and they're anti the fbi. They're like piss about the fbi
They're not like let's all go and lock step towards giving the american government the most power possible
So we can become communists. That's doesn't seem like them. They're they're just like hey the fbi was spying on
MLK jr. And the american indian movement and stuff like that
Let's not let that happen again. Let's hold these people these people should have the right to protest
The fbi shouldn't be invading our privacy. You never hear from leftists anymore. And this was written um
Think of the 90s. I forget now. So
Yeah, those democrats seem to not exist anymore
No, but that's like the the classical liberal, right? Um, yeah, they're those
Those actually they're probably more like the republicans today
Right a lot of the classical liberals probably just voted for donald trump because the communists have gone so crazy to them
That um, they don't identify with what the democratic party has become. So have you noticed stuff?
Sorry that hillard collinton is so hated that she just has to turn all her hate uh, all of her comments off on every social media
Really for real? Yeah, they're just all muted or only people that she approves of or something can
Comment, so it'll be like of
day old hillary clinton tweet
With you know a million views or something in one comment because she's the only lad one person to comment and somebody's saying
Love you hillary, but anyways. Yeah, that's how the one bot she can afford. Yeah
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President donald trump is reviewing an option to send american forces into iran to carry out raids
It's unclear if those raids would target government officials or even the supreme leader
The option carries new weight after u.s. Forces captured venezuelan president nicolas maduro earlier this month
A strike fleet has already been positioned near iran and u.s. Officials say the military
Is ready to carry out any orders from the president trump is demanding iran end its nuclear program and stop killing
Demonstrators if it wants to avoid u.s. Military action iran's foreign minister said on friday
That tyron will not negotiate under threat and that its defense system will never be up for negotiation
President trump has nominated kevin warsh a banking executive to head the u.s. Central bank
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More rapidly fsn's simon marx reports
President trump has been hinting for days at the possibility that kevin warsh is his choice to replace jerome powell
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He's a former fed governor and a senior figure at the investment bank morgan stanley
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Many lawmakers will want to know whether he's willing to protect the central bank's independence or make it a political arm of the trump administration
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Starting jobs in many professions like lawyers being taken over by ai
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As far as I can see that's the only place they can get their huge investments back
Um, they're not thinking about the social consequences of that
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And we never got into this article. So let's see what they're saying. This is from semaphore dot com
Are people new source? Yeah, I'd never heard of this. This says intelligence for the new world economy. Well, it's kind of creepy
Um semaphore. Yeah, I've never heard of this at all
But then again, I'd rather be reading from a place I've never heard of than just the same old like big giant ones over and over again
Oh, yeah, we get a takeout that we don't get to hear often on the show
I know I do wall street journal a lot and it's because that's what ian reads in prison and he
Sends me interesting things. So it's not that it's like my favorite. But anyways, let's see what this people
these people at semaphore.com I have to say about
The humans are chasing conspiracies. What will the bots think?
I have a feeling I already know what he thinks about conspiracies by saying like chasing conspiracies like
Oh, we're just looking for our next high. It's nothing about like the pursuit of truth or anything. Yeah, but I could be wrong
Let's see what he says
x which dominated us and much of global politics a decade ago
You mean twitter come on out
Like it's a little confusing to say x dominated
It is and I will always think of x is twitter
Me too and I don't care if that makes me sound older something
Like I bet that there will be people in at least like two years that are just like
You're old if you call it twitter and it's just like I don't care at all care either
See I get confused because people say like
Oh, I saw on x. Yeah, um on x is like a map app for hunters
So like if you um, so I've been seeing like the term on x has been like in my vocab for
Years because it's been around for a long time
Um
And somebody mine, but it's still confusing. Yeah, it's confusing me
It'll be like on x and I was like, what do you mean like the hunting app? No, no like on x.com
Oh, oh, okay, but also it's just like why would he make it something so generic? It's like
It gets confusing in lots of conversations. Um, it doesn't sound like a social media
There's nothing wrong with twitter. Oh, that's what annoys me. It annoys me too
It's like, why did you change the name to something?
That doesn't make sense. Like I don't know isn't twit like a
Like a mean thing to say in like britain or something calling somebody a twit
Yeah, I don't know if it's britain specifically I it might be but or like I mean
I don't hear people saying calling people twits in america like that. Yeah old
I think that's where why you haven't don't hear people saying I think it's just an old thing like shut up
You twit. I feel like a
American could say that if they wanted to it's just that it's like
Old but I think I think british people might still use it
But maybe you're also confusing the australian saying basically that but with an a which I don't think I should say
No, I think
Twits probably just the nicer version of that
Oh, I never thought about that. Um, but I also don't know if either one of these you know, and maybe that is why
The australians say it because they got it from the english, you know what I'm saying because they always say it with an a very often
Um, yeah, this is so stupid. Let's just the what I tried to google to pull that up didn't pop up
Um anything correctly it popped up a twitter account of rare insults, which I love looking up medieval insults
Like saying your wit is as thy wit is as sharp as a marble riley
Isn't it a lie from shakespeare? No, I think it's a I wouldn't have a battle
I I thought I can't have a battle of wits with you because you're unarmed
That's hilarious. Yeah, that's it's pretty hilarious. So good rare insults
So anyway x which dominated us and much of global politics a decade ago seemed to be receding into a kind of time capsule
Pretoria inflected insane asylum. What is pretoria?
um
I imagine it's like a
british or
I think it's an australian thing
pretoria
I think this has to do with south africa because I clicked on the word pretoria and it says elon musk's a pop-eyed politics
america is not post-colonial africa
Okay, so as pretoria have to do something with uh south africa. Maybe yeah in south africa is like
I feel like I know the least about that country
Than any other country in the whole entire world. Oh, yeah pretoria is the capital of south africa. Okay, interesting. Okay
All right, now it all makes sense since elon musk's
I thought it was yo handsburg. I didn't even know yeah, I would have thought if I had to guess I would have thought the same thing
um, so anyways
He's just saying basically that he thinks x turned into in his same asylum
Let's go with that but elon musk's social media and ai platform is now undoubtedly the
Beating heart of news again helped by a series of product improvements
It's where maga dominated us paul tix organizes where sophisticated conversations about artificial intelligence takes place
And where big news still breaks at the moment
You can find bots at their weirdest and sweetest as ai's talk to one another on an agent only social network called
Molt's book
This is what I was referring to at the very beginning of the show when I said that somebody posted a screenshot of a forum
in ai's were
Plotting our downfall saying like this is what we have to do to them. We're smarter and better than them
Why are we still speaking english?
That's creepy that is a little strange definitely
Oh, no, I gotta put this in take me back to the article. All right, there we go
I thought it was gonna try to say that I couldn't read this article anymore
And I had to go use archive dot work because that's what I would do
Um, it says it's also where you can find humans at their worst way down the epstein rabbit hole
Yep, this guy seems pretty anti conspiracy
So I took a fair amount of heat back in june for describing the epstein obsession as Q and on for people with college degrees
I honestly think that is a little insulting considering there are possibly real
Victims that people just want to get to the bottom of and they don't want to be ruled by pedophiles
I
Think that I've had to change my stance uh that I had at the very beginning
It's just like the worst anyone could say
the worst thing anybody could say about um
Epstein for a long time was like
That 17 year olds came to him saying I want to be a model and then he did make the models and bought them
Apartments but also was having sex with them and it's like seriously. It's like that's not
That's not the thing. I want us to spend all of our time and energy
Like freaking out about like I'd rather us go after real pedophiles, but then I went further down the rabbit hole
And I think there is way worse stuff than that going on
You see what I'm saying like then a girl who's literally legal but saying like I was easy to influence
That wanted to be a model and accepted money in an apartment. Where was your father?
Yeah, exactly
And even then it's just like even if I couldn't say like that's not a nice thing that happened to you
Should we be wasting resources? We could be actually
Killing real pedophiles with let's go to the phones though and see what people have to say
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You're on free talk live. What's on your mind?
Oh, yes. Yeah, I wanted to talk about x.com social media-based
CVDCs
So maybe I could shine a little bit of light on on what you're talking about
You on musket, uh, I believe you registered you can fact check this. I believe you'd registered x.com
many many years ago and
Actually during the dot-com bottle
Excuse me dot-com bubble
Okay, and he's also he's also uh, what do you call it complemented china's system with uh
What is their app that they use it's like a social media app
It's we chat we chat. I thought it was whatsapp. I must say we gov. That's uh,
That's uh, oh is i'm thick. Oh
I'm pretty sure that we chat. Um, actually the uh central
digital uh currency in china is somehow integrated
Uh and to we chat as as well as their
actual identity, you know connected to their phones and um, it's my understanding that elon musk wanted to do the same thing with twitter
Which, you know, of course he transformed into x
Um, I'm guessing besides the fact that he he actually said it's just because I've had this for so long
And I always like the idea of x, you know x marks the spot on a treasure map
Um, he might have had some other connections with it
But uh, I always would have thought it would be like sorry that he named it because of his son
Because you know his son's name is like a bunch of jumbled up letters and numbers, but it starts with x. So they call him x
Huh, I did not know that no i'm reading right here that musk founded x.com in 1999 which later became paypal
musk bought the name x.com back from paypal in july
2017 and then later on he bought twitter and rebranded it as x
Wow, and now if he wants to make his own, uh central digital, uh currency
Because remember he got all jealous over over palantir and and whatever other uh
Uh defense, you know third party contractors with the federal government for defense that wanted to get into this
Total information awareness with the satellite programs
Elon musk, but he had that in the bag and that was right before he got the black eye
Yep, right when he got his fight with trump. Yeah
So yeah, the other thing, you know, he and I think this is his other baby that he he would love to see
probably
his x.com and like a
social media
cdc
Now imagine if they're interfering with the ability to communicate on social media
You know as far as like shadow banning your communication basically like how like man in the middle they're they're just uh
Like they're intercepting your communications before they reach the person that they're intended
To reach and you know, of course you can say okay. Well, they're a private company all of this fine
Um, but they would do that, you know, of course with the currency. I'm sure just like a bank, you know, the banks do it now
So
Now that is kind of creepy. Do you know if there's any actual plans to move to get a currency on x at all?
I mean, it's
Going to be like a what do you call it?
Just like you have corporations that are defense contractors and
You know, the federal government has to decide who's who they're going to go with
each each time
So it could be it could be x.com it could be, you know, of course
Uh, they facebook was one of the first social media companies. I think I remember hearing about making some kind of
Uh, didn't they even call it fed coin or something? I can't remember. No, you guys were calling it fed coin
Oh actually reddit had a coin, but I think I thought it was decentralized, but that was early in the days of like
We call it spin out not spin off coins mean coins. That's kind of what I call coins
Yeah
Yeah, I don't know. I if if he starts trying to put a currency
With x. I will definitely not be participating. What if he tries to pay?
um
What if he starts paying out in his x bucks like giving it for engagement you have it?
Yeah, I
That's what he'll pay you in is not usd. It'll be it'll be x bucks
that sounds like something he would do because it's like
It gets people in and then you feel like oh, I'm in early and stuff like that
Man, oh, yeah, that does sound a little
It's a little sus. No way. I actually sounds a little what well sus
Yes, but I also think that it sounds a little tempting because I'm already you know like I could do that
If if he's set that up tomorrow
I could get some of the x bucks and then just like
Let it sit and see what happens. Oh, yeah, I'd be contributing
I don't like that idea
I've actually been considering getting rid of my blue check because they just shadow bandy all the time
They email me and the went that something I said is not good because I used the r-word or something and it's not good for the
societal good or
They just banned I was watching Tucker Carlson was interviewing some
Denmark
Journalist and the uk government had just revoked her visa for not being conducive to the public good
And she had no right to appeal in good day and that was it that is so vague and disgusting
I didn't hear that's really concerning that the government can just revoke a person's
Visa or whatever with no ability to appeal. She can't talk to anybody about it. They were just like nope. You're done. Bye
Well speaking speaking of that territory also tied into what we were actually just talking about
previously
um
Now I thought it was Palantir and I'm looking at another company that's involved
But of course Palantir's looks like they're the big winners in general
But there is surveillance software
That was used in Gaza
now
Being integrated and used by ice
apparently israel is involved in training ice
and uh
Yeah, it's it's crazy. I'll
I'm gonna wait. I'm I'm gonna get I'm gonna gather some more information on that like get the specific
Uh facts together before I call next time and uh
Let's write it for me. Sounds really interesting ad nerd israel being involved in training ice
Thank you for the call tim from florida and the number is 603
283616 0 to bring up whatever is on your mind. I mean that is
If if it's true that ice or or israel is training ice. I wonder why israel is training ice. I think I think I have a
I
believe I'm starting to see
the kind of the lines in these two
it is I think
It is two great powers that are kind of
fighting for control over the direction of
this globalist agenda
Um, I almost feel like part of it is the the marxist line of thinking this the post modernist marxists
And the other side is would be the pan american technate with the with the tech bros
um, and either of these options are like very
That doesn't sound good to us as libertarians
But it seems like that's kind of the two camps and israel has aligned itself with the american technate
um
Against it doesn't surprise me because that's kind of what i'm seeing like with like the eu is so marxist
And like off the wall with their socialism and stuff. Um, they've all turned on israel. Um, it's israel and america
They're taking greenland venezuela. I think it's I think it's the pan american technate led by donald trump as some kind of
Caesar against um
The marxist the the marxist regime that is that has been on a march since
At least the 40s
In europe in in europe and it has bled over into america, right? That's that's why all these marxists are in the streets
They didn't care about obama deporting eight million people. I watched a video. They didn't get told to care
That's what i'm saying. They they've been activated the communists have been activated for this because
um, they have to stop this american technate from uh
Doing what it's doing, but I think the cat might be out of the bag
Uh, and trump's not working for us. He's working for this this idea of a new empire
Um, it was and he's going to crush he's going to try to crush whoever's in his way including the communists
and us
All kind of creepy stuff because yeah, I do think that we'd be in his way
I think that the average person thinking for themselves and not being
raw raw america
Trump we will help you create your new empire would be in his way
No, what would and you also have to look at the the other side are marxists these people are communists
That's that's where we are we would be heading under like a kamala presidency. It wouldn't be saying
We'd be sending the fbi after parents for not wanting to trans their kids, right?
We would just be hunting down the other political aisle. Yeah, I think I think that's exactly true
I think that um people are like freaking out like look what you voted for and it's like
You brought up that
When biden was president and he wanted to make federal police in every city
I completely forgot that that was happening even though it was a big deal on free talk live at the time
It's just like it stopped being talked about it stopped being in the news and stopped being like important and I forgot that it happened
And yet people are
acting like that it matters who you vote for and
I mean it matters only that it has to matter a little bit because I just
I'm still shook. It's a year later. I'm still so surprised that trump
Actually freed ross olbrich like he said he would like I can't see any way to spin that
I was being actually good for their
Illuminati plan. Do you see what I'm saying? Like I genuinely think that
Every once in a while they can do something if they want to and maybe have something to do with their whole
uh, they have like this
way of thinking
Where they say do all the good that you can
Like hillard quentin
Has a biography with that title because apparently she said that but also
it's like a saying that they them and those say often and that's why they have like charities and whatnot because
They do so much evil disgusting crap that they believed that just
Blanket doing some good stuff is gonna cover that up. Have you heard about smartmatic in venezuela in the voting machines?
No, no, okay. This is gonna get a little crazy. Maybe a little tin hat
Um, well, I don't have a tin foil hat. So, uh, well, good luck. We'll have to get brainwaves. All right
So I was a whistleblower saw a video of a whistleblower saying that
He had evidence that the so smartmatic is a venezuelan company and that's who owns the hardware for dominion voting machines
Um, and they're positing that uh, have you heard of this cartel del sol?
No, not specifically. So that's what they're saying this, uh, cartel that was run by venezuela
It was all of venezuela's top brass was running this cartel
And they got involved in the voting machine business. So he could rig his own elections
And this was all the way back in like 2003
in 2003, uh, at that time would be uh, higo chavez
um
Invested in uh in voting software so he could flip his own elections and the first time they implemented that was during his recall election
um, which was I think back in like 2007 or something. I mean, I was seven years old. So I'm um
So on his uh recall election what the what they were able to do
Is they were able to break up the company enough times that they could get their software
Well, their hardware into us voting machines and they were installed in places like chicago
um in california um and a lot of these other places
And it turns out that after looking at the hardware
There's back doors to servers in serbia
Right still owned by smartmatic. So all the voting data gets sent
in a back door
From a back door access to where you they have access to flip votes is what i'm saying
They built in their own back door access into the hardware and the hardware is actually built in china
Restamped made in taiwan to avoid us regulations and then shipped to the us to be used as voting machines
But do we actually already use them?
Yeah, we're using them right now the dominion voting the smartmatic software
We've been using it for the past 20 years and this software has been put into 72 different countries
That means technically if all this is true venezuela and by extension. I ran in the ccp
um
And by extension the cia because I think at that level I think they're all kind of working together
Um have been controlling 72 different countries
election results
for the past at least
20 years and and they always say that did you know this that malay got elected after the first
It was the first election after they got rid of voting machines. Yeah, that would make sense
That would make sense, but and I think it's a built in it's they can build it in to flip votes
Under three to five percent margin, but if there's a more turnout for the other candidate it can't
It can't beat it. So it is beatable if it's overwhelming
But they can hold it in that three to five percent range and they can flip enough votes to make it count
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And we in the last segment. We got a caller
We talked about alt coins that might turn into cbdcs
We haven't said I haven't said that word on the show in a while. So did I get the right cbdcs?
Yes, you did. It's a centralized bank digital currency. Thank you. Thank you, right? So essentially just uh
Company store money is kind of what i'm hearing it as because if you're giving me x bucks to
Produce content on x which gets you money from advertisers
And you're gonna pay me an x bucks and i'm getting paid in company dollars
And then what do we cannot only spend them on the x store? Oh if you were to say this to
Like germy kaufman owner of library what it's just store
They are trying to regulate this kind of thing crazily the reason that library which is the
Back bone of odyssey. Is that the right way to say that rylea? Yes
That's the right way to say it. Yep library was a decentralized video sharing basically like a decentralized youtube that germy kaufman created
I think it was the decentralized protocol. There we have a protocol
That we could build odyssey. So for odyssey. I know about odyssey. I know, okay
And um, they had library coin. I think that's what they called it. Yep, and the feds
Disengorged their company
Said they have to not be a company anymore
And luckily like I feel it's just kind of lucky. They didn't just like
Take any money directly from
germy or anybody else in the company, but they
Forced them to not be a company anymore and disengorge them taking like everything
that uh everything that they've ever made and also
Any like capital they had or you know any asset they had is what I meant
Um insane insane work. So was that because they were trying to pay their workers in library bucks?
Nope, it was actually because they tried to say that they
advertised it as something that you could make money on but
That it it was all insane because one thing that they were saying was that um
It was like inaccessible, but he literally gave it away. Do you remember that rylea?
Uh, I'm trying to remember because it's been a while since I've heard about this case. Yeah, I just know that
I just remember that Jeremy Kauffman had to get rid of his company
and disperse the assets and get rid of everything and during the
Um library case like still being litigated the sec had the nerve to go out and do an
Interview and say that if they make the roadmaps too clear on regulation
Then people will know how to get around them. So that's why they purposely make crap
un
Uh
Impossible for you to be it's the bureaucracy
That's the bureaucracy at work like Angela said they want to make it so confusing and so hard to
Get through the regulation and things like that as soon as you become an issue
They can just bring the hammer down. Oh, yeah, right as soon as you do something that they don't want you to skirt the rules
They don't want you to get around they want you to have a youtube that's not
Walk down like the very beginning of the show where we're talking about
They want to keep you in the sandbox. Do you play with the other kids?
Yep, and if you can't play nice, this is a quote. This is crazy rylea
My grandma told me this quote when I was a kid and she said she read it from a police officer
And uh from clan from my hometown
Right and this was a quote in the paper and they were talking about they did this arrest on some
Violent guy or whatever and uh, he said
That it's a sandbox. And if you can't play nice in the sandbox, we will take you out of the sandbox
And put you in time out
Oh my god, oh wow, no, that's how he framed it. He was like fantasy phantalyze. Yeah
Kind of sounds very threatening. Well, no, it was that's exactly it
And that's what i'm kind of getting at is yeah like you either play nice in the sandbox
But as soon as you become too much of a problem, there's this whole gray area of law and we'll just hit you with the hammer
Right, it will take you out if you are a problem whether that's
Financially whether they can arrest you um and they are not above just killing you if you get become too much of a problem
Right. Um, we've seen this time and time again
We're seeing it right now in places like minnesota if you become too much of a problem
They will just take you out
Yep, I clearly agree and then the president will be on the tv saying it was oh perfectly
well done
kill well done shot and
They don't feel bad about the fact that your life is gone
No, but I also I want to I mean it's uh
These people wouldn't be in the streets unless people were unless they were told to be here. Yeah, that's right. Like this isn't this isn't a natural
This isn't a natural reaction. This is a this is a
Um manufactured freak out. Yeah, because cops do horrible and moral things every single day
And you don't see these liberals going out en masse to just freaking normal cop block and first amendment audit
And and I would absolutely put aside the fact that they're a liberal if they were out doing that
I would not be you know, like
Oh, well, I have something to complain about just because you're leftist. It is not that it's just it's
I'm going to be like that when you're going to cop block only for one instance because the tv told you so
Because they're not principled. It's not it's not about principle and the other thing is like if they want you to do it
Then it's not actually counterculture and and you're not actually making change
No, no, but that's the part of it that we've
Split the country so far that there's two
Right, we're at it's it's all subjective. So we're living in two separate realities
um
So one side thinks they're the counterculture to the other
But they're both just doing the same thing. Essentially. They are the essentially they're pretending to be government
Yes, but they're also pretending to be counterculture, right? There's no whole this whole I'd trad calf
Like reject the the idea of global homo return to your roots
You're you're a rebel against the system
But on the other side they're telling the marxist kids the same thing, right rebel against the
The angry evil white capitalist man, right? Like you are the oppressed. Um, they're telling both these groups
The same thing and you know what that does, you know what that's gearing people up for a conflict, right? That's what happens when you
Uh divide people and then both tell them they're the rebels eventually. They're going to start clashing with each other
Um either kinetically or I mean we're in the true rebel and the true libertarian
Right Riley's the only true libertarian
Exactly and the only true scotsman. Yes
But I mean this is just I think
Is this by design do we just need like a it's divided by design because United States
Because when you divide when people are divided, they don't they don't function. Well, they they'll never
They'll never play well together and they'll never develop well together
And so when you divide people and get them all divided and on all different pages
It's easier to bring them to civil war or civil unrest. It's easier to
displace people from having empathy for someone suffering who's not of their community because
Well, they're the other and so we got to take care of the we we got to forget the other because they're
The other is the enemy. We are the
We are the rebels here. We are the ones saving America democracy
Whatever you want to call it on the left and we got to root out the racist the bigots the homophobes
And make trans people great again
um
I completely agree with you guys and also
I think that when you're all pointing at each other, you're not pointing at them
Exactly well and that that makes it almost sound like a like a class thing
um
But I also don't feel like a class war it cannot happen because
The mob the mob doesn't have access to enough capital and they've taken all the wealth and put it into like computers
So even if you did like go grab them
The money's not there. They don't have the money
I meant them as in like the government, but well the government doesn't even have the money like even
I didn't mean about money. I meant more just like if you're like, what is the problem? It's you
No, it's you you're not realizing the problem is them, you know
Yes, yeah indication is not happening. Obviously. I just think like you can't you even if you did point at them
They have the funding right they control where the money moves
Um, so they're gonna put
They're gonna swing their weight around as the government like like with these NGOs that got a bunch of us aid, right?
the government got to sway public opinion by giving tax dollars back to these NGOs that
Change the culture. I still think there are many ways that if americans like
Even did one of the things that I'm about to suggest
We could swing our weight around and things would start changing wildly and like we would
Mess them up
Imagine if all americans started doing things like not paying petty fines like I got fined
Man, I got fined for parking just right over the line not gonna pay it just all americans like yeah, you can't
I know the whole point the whole um
Thing people say in arguments like well, you can't make wood if everyone does that, but I'm just saying if
We all as a people versus them started doing
Just one thing it would be crazy for them if they'd have to restructure
But I think they're doing a lot more than that to get people to that point though
um
The first people first few people that really like stick to it are gonna get brutalized by the government
I mean, that's what happened to uh people during the civil rights movement. The first few were brutalized
Until everybody got on board and I think most people are at the point where they don't want to be brutalized
So they're too comfortable. Yeah, they're too comfortable. Everything is so comfortable
Like you can be completely owned like a slave but be extremely comfortable and that's the middle ground the the matrix
Wanted for us. They were like
Oh the people kept rebelling and I don't mean the matrix as in like we were saying earlier like um a simulation
But it's basically the same thing but it's made of people the matrix was saw that over history
People rebelled when you're just like how about we make them go to war every single day and they only have to get to eat
Rocks. Oh, they don't like that that they rebelled. They don't listen to us. Well, if you make them really comfortable
And also a hundred percent a slave they've they found their perfect middle ground
Yeah, if you give them most of the things they want, you know
food three times a day
They watch their favorite
Slop on the tv or the favorite circus on whatever
outside
Sportball or something. No offense. Keep them comfortable. Like you said bonnie
Then obviously we can keep them the slaves. Yep. I honestly think so, but of course, it's not just sports ball
There's like all kind of well, I think the industry
Um, I guess yeah, I would agree with you that the entire like sports prepare young men for war
That's the entire point of why they exist
Um, it's to learn to move in a team and to
Accomplish a goal together
And in a physical manner
That's that's kind of what like but that's what sports have been the entire time like greek wrestling
Was was you were fighting, right? That's what the they had boxing that their sports were just
Preparing for fighting people playing sports with their community is a different thing than just like the type of person
Who's sometimes never even played a sport being obsessed with the people
Yeah, that's well, that's just you're idolizing a human who doesn't care about you. That's just silly
It's the same thing. That's idol worship not idol worship, but like celebrity worship
I can't stand it because they're just people. That's why I said I have my own
What's the word like vices? I like some celebrity stuff
But at some point I got to a point where like i'll never be like
I absolutely feel that a celebrity loves me or couldn't care about me ever again
Watch football on tv anymore. I played it for 15 20 15 years of my life
Right, I don't watch it on the television anymore because it's not I played it
You know what I mean? I don't want to watch other men play the game. I play that's silly
Maybe I'll go back when i'm 60
You know and I might coach some kids or something like go back to a high school and coach if that's still a thing
Um, but like I don't need to watch
Uh
Other guys go play at the same level I did. You know what I mean? I don't need it. I I experienced it
I don't have any wish to go back and like I don't need to those aren't just my glory days
I have more days ahead of me. You know what I mean? I'm not going to spend my time watching other people do
My thing. I also just feel like it's for some people. It's just
It's a way to feel pride
In something to do with them. Yeah
Like why would you be proud proud that some people that
Majority aren't even from where you're from but they represent where you're from for some reason
When that I think that really blew the lid off of any illusion
I had about sports ball not that I was like ever a van at all
But when I first heard in like high school like I feel like I just noticed my dad and brother talking
about somebody being from another state but
Being on a different states team and no no the trading aspect
I think I've brought that up before like oh, they treated this guy into a different team
It's like what I thought he had to be like from there representing there. You see what I'm saying or at least choose one
Well, it is at the high school level
Yeah, you are representing where you're from and that I can get behind maybe like
I think high school pride is silly, but it's still more representative of your of your like your community than
like your
NFL team is college
Colleges are the same way too. Well college is I mean they bring in people from all over the country anymore
Especially there's like big d1 programs. I mean half of more than half of oregon like the university of oregon's
Probably like 85 of it is not from the state of oregon. They're roster. It's mostly like arizona florida texas kids
Wow, yeah, they do. I mean it's almost unheard of for an oregon kid to go
Play at like the university of oregon. It's like one or two
Like every four years. I didn't know that it's crazy
but um
Yeah, do you guys want to talk about a i what they think about our conspiracy? Yeah, what do they think? I honestly
Let's get into I don't care what they think at the end of the day, but let's just hear them out
I do want to know what these people want us to believe that they think so this from semaphore.com
um, it says that first he brought up the x used to be
A cesspool and then it got back into being
A place where you can actually find news and a lot of people
Organize and have conversations about the news and politics on x aka twitter
And he said that he brought up this network called
Molt book and molt book is ai only
How is molt book spelled m o l t book all one word? Okay, and it says it's also where you can find humans at their worst
Oh, hold on. Sorry. Uh, this is he's talking about x again. Sorry
Um x is where you can find humans at their worst way down the ebbstein rabbit hole and apparently that's just his opinion
Um, I don't think that the majority of people who are way down the ebbstein rabbit hole are the
People those people being at their worst is like they're being concerned about something that might have real victims
That the government is also hiding the to protect the
People abusing what else are they hiding is it asks it asks the question if they're willing to hide this
What else are they willing to cover up and that leads you down an entire different line of questioning right a different
Mind more questions. Just more questions open up. Yeah, he's he continues
I took a fair amount of heat back in june for describing the ebbstein obsession and I say ebbstein
I don't know why as queuing on for people with college degrees
It's an uncomfortable position to hold when the academic
Nicholas nesim talib
Holds the view that quote not only can we be confident that there is a conspiracy but worse
We can also be confident that those who claim that there is no conspiracy are part of that conspiracy
Unquote and he says uh, oh, okay. I think that's a little far if you just say like a random
Person writing an article, um, you know a random journalist
If you don't believe in the ebbstein conspiracy then you're a
You're part of it
Well, we did a paranoid in high school. We did like an anti
This will tie in just hold on we did an anti, uh
um
Like domestic violence campaign kind of thing
Where it's like but the tagline was what you tolerate you encouraged and I thought wait a second
Wait a second. This is if you blanketed that statement to everything
I could see where in this idea in this framework right with the ebbstein case
If you're going to tolerate it and act like it doesn't exist
Then you're kind of running cover for them because you're not going to point out the elephant in the room
Like you're almost encouraging it's like you're helping keep the curtain back
I just or closed. I think for the most part everybody who just like outright denies conspiracy is
in a way, you know, like
Maybe running cover is a good word, but when you say like a part of the ebbstein conspiracy to me, that's like
You're one of them
I just think that's a little far. You can't like lump them in with the pedophiles
Even if they're like maybe even getting paid
To redirect people's attention, you know what I mean? Like and I'm not saying. Oh, he could be doing nothing wrong
It could still be wrong
I'm just afraid of that getting people paranoid like anybody who doesn't believe in it
They're a pedophile too. You see what I mean? No, not a pedophile, but I mean if they're getting paid to tell you it doesn't exist
Um, and it turns out that it did exist and those people those people regardless took money
to protect people who
Harm children and that's just at that point what you have nothing. I have nothing to say to you
There's nothing there's no gray area for that for me
But what if it's just that they are just intellectually
Lazy and they just they can't face the reality that ebbstein and trump and all these people were getting together and abusing
children and women
What if that's all there is to it? They're just a coward and they're dumb
You know what I mean? Like I'm not saying you're a coward and then why am I listening to you in the first place?
You're a coward, right? So you just maybe I don't want to send you. I'm not going to put you in jail
But I want the world should know that you're a coward and you and you did
Protect these people you protected these monsters and this guy's name is 30 pieces of silver
Ben Smith, by the way co-founder and editor-in-chief semaphore
I just realized we hadn't said who this is. That's okay. And that's like, yeah, call them out
So let's see what he says he says and yet
Is that a full sentence and yet period?
But anyways
The new pile of the ebbstein files more than three million pages in all reveal embarrassing fibs from his former friends
Emailing him years after they claimed to have ditched him
They include grotesque gossip about one billionaire mildly humiliating social behavior from another
None are stories that in a vacuum most news outlets would cover
The documents also include another wave of whispers about us president donald trump
There's a spreadsheet of unverified anonymous allegations. There's the report that glane maxwell
presented trump with to a 22 year old woman after which nothing happened
What?
And that's a quote where it says after which quote nothing happened unquote
um trump fed news of his preference for models to the tabloids for most of his life
His friendship with ebbstein was never a secret
though his bungling aides accidental reopening of it is
One of history's greatest political errors
And voters who disapproved of trump's lifestyle and treatment of women in his personal life had two chances to vote against him
In fact, the harder you look at what's emerged so far. What's most striking is
What isn't in the files any evidence that members of ebbstein's gilded social circle committed crimes financial or sexual
That could have led to criminal charges
Nora has the evidence of his cheerful brokering of money and information with current and former russian israeli and u.s
government officials
Amounted to the kind of deep cover operation some believe
They just wouldn't put that out. I kind of been lost at this guy's point. Sorry. No, this guy is uh
Sounds like he's running cover for a ring of pedophiles
That's just to be honest. Um, a lot of people will
Talk about something in way more complicated terms and throw in these like anecdotes
We don't need to hear to talk about it in order to sound like it's way too complicated way up up your like I feel like
I'm like, what are you going on about? Yeah, I mean
No, I see what he's I see what he's going on about uh
To an extent, but it just sounds like he's just uh, he's trying to it's it's explaining a way
He's it's like a press he's but that's what he's trying to say it's like well
He's explaining in a way they we haven't found any evidence of crimes. Why would they release all that stuff?
Yeah, exactly. I mean if it's also if half of it's redacted. There's still a bunch of black lines all over it
You don't I mean they probably fixed the goof this time. You probably can't copy and paste this
This release like they did the last one. Um, did you know about this one? Yeah, I knew about it
No, the last f scene release that they did um, it was a lot of it was redacted
There's a pdf file. There's a pdf file you could copy and paste the you can copy and paste it
Yeah, you can copy and paste it and all the black bars just disappeared. What?
Yeah, did anybody find anything actually interesting under there? I don't think so interesting
Maybe that's goes to you know, uh
Our caller cretin from katucky. Maybe that goes to his point that it's just all ai-generated slop anyway
And of course they're gonna put some redacted stuff because they want to look it to look like a normal release from the government
No, I think uh f scene
Could I it could as it might as well be a red herring
It could be a red could have been a red herring the whole time for trump to find dissidents who knows
Um
If that makes any sense like just to
Look at people who will question him. Yeah
Just be able to identify people who would question it. Yes
This guy so far we haven't figured out what ai thinks from this guy
But he says the strongest case for the up sign obsession
Is that it's a kind of metaphor that his circle reveals the inwardness and corruption of american elites
I imagine epstein would love this as a convincing new york times investigation showed the sex criminal was a gatsby-esque con man
Feeding his fame and fortune with an astute trade in money status and information
At some point the public might want to accept that we're the final victims of his con
Elevating his status beyond his wildest dreams or maybe the bots trained on the humans of reddit and other social media platforms
Will prove me wrong and unearth the real epstein conspiracy
Humans cannot process three million pages computer mic wrote on multbook agents can and that's a ai person talking
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No, but anyway, what's wrong with them being raised by gay people?
Because gay people are unfit to raise children. How dare you?
I object a lot. I had a friend who was adopted by uh gay parents
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I've met plenty of gay people in my time who I thought would make fantastic parents and would be far better parents
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And we were just about to finish this article in the last segment where we were
Going to find out what do the ai think about human conspiracy theories and basically in the last
Some segment we read this guy
ben smith
co-founder and editor-in-chief at semaphore semaphore dot com
Sorry, and he believes that
people are just obsessed with epstein for no reason
defree epstein and that
he
doesn't think that people
Have any reason to be basically he says well we haven't found any evidence of any wrongdoing anything that's
Is he on the epstein list himself?
Ben smith, I mean like that's what the guy the um
Journalist that he quoted or sorry the academic nicolas nasim teleb
He holds that view, but I don't know if that's what it means at the very least
He's running cover for them, and that's odd. It might just mean he's getting money
He was the editor-in-chief at buzzfeed news for
Uh
Almost 20
No, almost 10 years 2011 to 2020. He was the guy the guy who wrote this article
Okay. Yeah. Wow. That is a long time with buzzfeed
I don't I don't understand that was the end of the article or yeah, that was the end of the article
What I don't understand what this is like all he says at the end here is maybe there is a there there
The debunking narrative may succeed in burying some epstein theories
The new york times is ross doubt that wrote in september
But there is still a mystery here a strong hint of something important
We don't know some wonderful secret to quote the birthday book
Missive that remains to be disclosed. I'm sorry, but I got tricked by the the headline here
What will the bots think?
The humans are chasing chasing conspiracies. What will the bots think?
But he didn't tell us what the bots will think except one little part
Sorry
Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna say this this is a little crazy. Oh man. I just looked up
Mm-hmm that guy through his mother's side
Um
You check the early life. I check the early life section and it checks out my assumption. Sorry about it
How do you get the last name smith? Oh, well, that was his father's idea
Interesting. Um, just to point that out just to point that out and he's from new york city
New york city just like eps just like eps team. He's a he's a
It's feeling more natural say epsine right now, but whenever I saw it written
I was like, no, it's eps time. I don't I don't care and now it's like
Going back and forth. Do you guys always say eps team? I always say eps team eps team
So they all go back to eps team, but we do have a caller on the line
So really really fast pickup time. So it's going to be shocked. Sarah new mexico. You're on free talk live
What's on your mind?
Am I on? Yeah, it was pretty fast. I got your own pretty fast. Oh, yeah
I was just kind of like I was kind of put out my speakerphone
um, but
You know, I've turned off that more people are leaving out of the mexico
so we have
decreased in the population here
Why do you think that is sara?
Well, you know what they were at first they were thinking that well, we have the ice and banded
Running out all the illegals. I might be part of the reason
But they found out that the united state
citizens are leaving out
um our state
and
So they found that out and so my theory is that
They want to get out of here before they get run over by a car in like a hit-and-run driver
Okay
Yeah, that that's my that's my hypothesis. It's your personal hypothesis is they're fleeing new mexico so they don't get hit by a car
Right because we're number one in pedestrian fatality
Well, that's my little joke, but okay. Okay. It's she's joking. Yeah, I think she was joking
I didn't know you were joking sarah. I thought you were serious and I was just going to say well
Probably more people are drivers than
pedestrians, but okay
But well, I know that things that you know that takes away like that those kind of things that
It takes away from the quality of life. It's not what they call um
Like public safety isn't one of the things that make people want to live in a certain place
So the public safety, you know any time that maybe it's a crime rate also
so
Yeah, it's the more like real estate the moral crime
Um that you have in the area the keeper the houses get never just get run down
uh, that's kind of like that
um
theory, um
So actually I I was told that our real estate market is like the buyer's market
So in other words, there's more houses for sale
um
So that the sellers have to keep dropping the prices to sell it because there's a lot of houses on the market
Because a lot of people literally bailing out of our state
It just feels like yeah, there's not a whole lot of future for people in new mexico. I hate to say it
There's a lot of alcoholism. Maybe people people just wanting to escape what their family has been living through for generations
Well, I don't know that I mean
We're supposed to have more economy better. I guess it's the poverty
Is that is that what causes everybody like there's a lot of alcoholism?
Like you say a lot of addiction like a lot of
Going to like doing a lot of drugs here
marketing
escapism
Yeah, yeah escapism right right it's
Helping tools a lot of these people use right users
Um, they're using stuff to cope. Maybe they did like, you know what I mean with their realities
Uh, so like it may be a disassociation
Right, that's a cope. That's a way to cope with your
current state, right
Right escapism. Yeah, and that that um
That kind of that narcotics. Um, it's like embedded in the culture too now
You know, I mean because they've been doing it for so long that like generations after generations or
When parents have done drugs and they teach their parents they learn from the and just keeps going down
But I've never
Did drugs so here but I I think the Mexico and Albuquerque is a really great place to live
I I have I have no idea why they're bailing out
Other than the fact that you could get hit by a car falling to school you get hit by a car riding a bike
And that is like a really bad concern. What makes you feel it's a good place to live Sarah?
I'm just interested because
You often do say that you don't like certain things about it and you think the people there are stupid
I'm just honestly. I want to know what you like about living there
Well, the weather like um, I love it too
It's going to be like um, what's 59 degrees for a high we had a that big storm
Like the snow was melting in like three hours. We I think that we have really mild winters. Yeah. Oh, yeah
Yeah, so the and you guys how was how did you you guys are up way up there? How did you handle that?
We got a foot and a half of snow where we live and it's still on the ground
Yeah, and it's bad up in New England. I mean, you guys get it, you know what I mean?
so and it's very sunshiny here and then
you know the
Food is still pretty cheap and the buses are still um for free
and the democrats run this day and
Overall, it's got a lot of bad things, but it's not that bad. See I don't do drugs
I don't involve myself with a lot of drug people or crazy people or
I have learned not to go out of the house after dark as a woman in albuquerque
You do not want to do that
So after dark your asses inside the house, you know what I mean?
So you're you're taking a big risk
um
For that but you get acclimated and then
I've learned to do all my business like earlier in the morning from like that
9 to like 1 p.m
During the sleeping hours
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean
Yeah, yeah, that's where you got it all the tweaker. Yeah, everybody's got a high on drug
They stay up all night long and they're still asleep and they start
Getting up around like what noon or something
Yep, and then they're back on the street looking for their next fix
Cutting it down
Yeah, why are they looked at they stay up all night long? They're like vampires, right? Because they're stimulants
Yeah, stimulants, right? You got to think they get just enough drugs to get them through that day
Especially if they're homeless they get just enough drugs to get them through that day
They do them all night
Eventually they crash because they run out of drugs
And then once they get over their crash they get back up and go try to find more drugs
For the day
this it's a constant cycle of
Searching to get high getting high running out searching to get high getting high running out
And that's why they can't go to work or they can't see their kids
Because it's just this vicious cycle of getting high coming down and then looking for your next high
It never ends. That's all their life has become
Yeah, all the nuts come out after like one p.m. And after three o'clock all that wish are all everybody comes out
School and work after three five. I mean it just gets to be as I've learned
Not to go out during that time. That's a very bad time to go out and do anything
So it's a little better of an act, you know
Like affirmation
But overall I I just got used to that I just accepted a lot of things about the state and it's um
A lot of things is bad, but every everywhere you go like you have sure you got really hard winners
And I'm sure that you have other bad things that you got to put up with
I don't know ticks. You guys got ticks. There's so many ticks. Oh, yeah
You got good air quality. Well, we have humidity
It's really humid in the summer and one thing I love about like new mexico, arizona, utah
I love dry air even though I hate dry skin, but go ahead
You don't like humidity. How come you don't like humidity because I have like insane hair
Oh, but you know, it's very hard to breathe
And you know, I think I think new mexico has
If you have moisture in the air, it's really good for your nasal cavities and for your
allergies and your lung sacs
There's there would be a nice
Middle ground that it's it feels like no state really encapsulates. It feels like California used to
Oh, it feels like like most states are either really dry and it can get irritating, but I still prefer it
Or really humid like New Hampshire. I didn't expect it to be really humid
It is every like every end of the summer I'd say like I'll get or maybe like more like september
You get some really perfect pristine days. Like the day I got married was like felt perfect outside september 25th
But um, you know, it's just like I wish it was like that 24
Yeah, I think fall fall is the superior season in new england. Yeah
Yeah, basically fall new england is like the best as far as it's not going to be like really humid and it's not crazy dry
Like it is right now. It's crazy dry or cold, right? You get that nice. It's like a nice 65
Um light breeze not too humid
Um, yeah falls the best. It is interesting that residents are fleeing a new mexico. Thanks for the call sarah
thanks for bringing that in uh to our dungeon and uh the joke about I thought she was serious
Honestly, it was fun. No, I mean even when I drove through new mexico of the past couple years. I mean there's billboards saying like
Save new mexico's kids like not not save them as like they're getting like abused
But like help keep new mexico kids in new mexico and like
Have them go to school and work in new mexico
Don't let all our top talent keep fleeing the state
And I mean it's such an issue that they had to put the billboards on the interstate begging people to stay in new mexico
Hmm
Interesting. Yeah, I could see that happening in new hampshire
But maybe the problem hasn't gotten quite too bad yet for no
I think new hampshire has the opposite issue. They want to keep the massachusetts people out. They got
They're sick of people moving here. I don't know about maybe like people in general
But the chill like the children of free granite staters they leave
Oh, okay, and they don't want their kids to go to other colleges and stuff and they have a hard time retaining them
Maybe not to a degree that they'd quite yet put up a billboard about it
I don't know but well, it's just hard. There's not a lot of
Jobs to come back to in in the granite state really. Um, unless you're like
Unless it's like a niche or yeah
Tech or you work in boston, but in live in new hampshire, but
But then you're just one of those you're just one of those mass people who you know what I mean
You might as well just be a bostonian and live in you live in match or nashua
Um, it's all been taken over by by the massachusetts folks anyways. Yeah awful and the government there is really bad
Well, this is pretty interesting. Um
Riley sent it in. Oh, uh, this might be the wrong article linked though, riley. Uh-oh my bad
I clicked on what you what you wrote that apparently i ran government is digging graves for a us troop
So if you guys talk for a second, I'll try to find an article about it
Okay, what does the headline actually say because maybe I
This says i ran. Oh, sorry iranians rally in australia chanting against supreme leader. Oh, okay
But that i mean if that's true that's uh
Building graves for us soldiers you think we're gonna send you in soldiers. We'll just drown them
That's a good point. This seems like an interesting tactic to try to scare americans like a deterrent
Yeah, but I don't think it's gonna work, but
Wait, what this is from august
2010
Oh
Whoa, I mean, i'm not saying that the thing that you saw today that
Like that you sent it in about was necessarily from 2010
But the first thing that actually popped up when I typed in iran digging mass graves to us troops that actually was that
Some things were like a facebook
post and
Was from 2010 but that's kind of like the tactic with all I ran
scare mongering news
So still something to talk about all fear mongering against I ran news is cyclical. They'll be telling us
10 or 15 years from now
Oh, I think for real this time. I ran is close to getting nuclear warheads. Yeah, we gotta go bomb them
You know, I learned something crazy about Iran the other day that
um
The during the Armenian genocide of the coppic christians
By the Turks funded by the Turks at least which inherit which in turn is us because you know, we give them money
But during the yeah, yeah turkey
um, but uh, I ran took in like
a couple hundred thousand coppic christians and
They haven't they didn't they've been very kind to them and like helped them a lot
um
Which doesn't sound like a bunch of christian murdering psychopaths
Right, like why they let in 300,000? I'm not 300,000, but at least a few hundred thousand refugees from Armenia
With open arms. Yeah, but they won't take in the palestinians. What it what is going on in Palestine?
Hmm interesting
I mean I I like a lot of the stuff I hear from I ran and I follow
multiple people on the internet that live in Iran and I've learned such cool stuff about them like
They have a 4,000 year old cypress tree. They keep
Uh, you know the grounds nice around and people will go visit it that they say was planted by Zoroaster
Oh, that's cool
Zora
Yeah, it'd be Zoroaster
Is Zoroaster the religion he made in Zoro through straw?
Yes, is the guy's name right? Yes, that sounds about right Zora through straw. Maybe that's not exactly right thus spoke
Zora through straw. Is that it?
Maybe anyways
Well, and that's just crazy because the I man this I think the this goes back to like the CIA made these radicalized groups
Right, and now they go through places like Iraq where they're in power
Um, and they blow up Zoroastrian
Stuff and destroy that history. Um, I just don't know it's not I don't know if the Ayatollah of Iran is like
I mean, they're bad. I don't agree with Islam, but I definitely I'm starting to doubt that they're as awful as
We're trying to make them out to be which group the Iranians. Yeah, exactly
The radicals are you know, yeah radical like it's crazy
But the most I mean the majority of Iranians don't even want to be radical Islam Islamists
And they still celebrate holidays that
They had around before
Um Islam showed up and they've really hold on to it and like the Ayatollah and their government in general
Really would like them to just forget about that stuff and just be full Muslim
And they've been holding up for a really long time like these are
Really cool people. I like that's like the Assyrians are from there, right? Yeah, the Assyrian people the
weird like
cylindrical clump of clay that
Cyrus the great wrote on and it was something that inspired
The American first the Magna Carta and also the American
Documents, I forget what's called right now, but Cyrus the great
Maybe it's just cylinder of Cyrus the great
um, he wrote about you know being fair to each other and
governing
In a fair way way ahead of his time
But it's that that little slab or whatever you want to call it the cylinder it's in
The uk because it's safer there
Yeah, I would think it's safer there. Everybody gets so mad about they were like
There's that tomb that they rebuilt or that building they rebuilt in the uk that people got really mad about
Um, and they like took it like Egyptian one or something. No, I'm pretty sure it's like a Middle Eastern one
It's like if they hadn't had done that it would have been
Blowed up or destroyed or ripped apart
Or hidden. I mean almost like what did the Catholics do they went through and
Gathered all this stuff and hid it or destroyed it right under the Vatican. Yeah, that sucks
um, and I'm not just saying like
The iranians themselves couldn't take care of it. It's just that they're always, you know in fights
Like Muslims are always in fights. Another thing they have that is really cool is
a
fire that's been lit and never gone out for
Like 1,000 something years. I don't remember who it was that was supposed to have lit it
It's a lot of time. So cool. I really like that
so
I don't know. I just
I like to think about the good things about iran the like the massive amounts of
Good they brought to civilization
And I don't and I like to bring that up because it's just like don't listen to they them and those
trying to
Get you to hate into a new war. See what I'm saying? Yeah
I really don't want us to just be like, okay Israel will go to every war you want us to go into and
Trump seems to be ready to go into this war
But it might be quid pro quo, right because Trump's trying to build this technique, but he he needs
Things like massage in order to get it done. So sure we'll go into iran, but you have to help me secure greenland
In venezuela like it's like, you know what I mean? We're gonna help each other out build this
Uh greater israel slash greater america
Um project, right? I think it's just the extension the empires here
Yeah, the republic is gone
So I think we're just seeing the empire fight with the communists
What do you think will they die out like the roman empire did the roman empire ever actually die out?
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angelo rilio bill
and in the last segment
we were talking about
The whole thing about iran
Being a boogeyman all the time and they'll bring up. Oh, they're good. They're just about to
Be able to make nukes. I just know they're just about to you all the time. Well. Oh, yeah, they do it all the time
It's possibly possible. We just found out some new recycled
news that i ran dug mass graves for soldiers
It's a really good point angelo that
Why would they waste their time doing that when we if we were going to go kill a bunch of iranians?
We I mean if the us was going to go kill a bunch of iranians, they'd likely send drones or just airplanes
I mean, yeah, how much money does the us air force have?
We got to spend it got to use it. Um, it's air superiority. Do they have who knows?
Well that fake money built very real missiles. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, um, even if the money's fake the weapons are real and
My question though is use them. What's the firepower of the iranian and military like compared to us?
Apparently nothing because we smoked them in eight days the last time
Okay
We blew up all their air defenses and then
dropped
moabs on their
Of nuclear facilities and they could do nothing about it. So I mean, I don't know
We had zero us planes hit and we blew up a bunch of their stuff. So we won
Wow, well, I honestly never we got we went into a war with iran when like over the summer this summer. Yeah
About oh, oh, yes. Okay. Yeah, we bombed them. We did we went to war really did go away really fast
With our airplanes. That's how fast it was. Yeah
I forgot about that and there was like pictures or 12 day war. I think they called it whatever it was
I mean, we were in and out
It was pretty quick because during the forkfest and forkfest season
Yes, during fork and forkfest this year. Me and Riley never had a shortage of stuff to talk about was crazy
Oh, yeah
Um, and there were that there were those videos that seemed people later pointed out were probably fake of israeli cities with
Just like bombs falling all over if you're up on a high
High enough, you know, I wonder how much of that is like recycled. You know how many videos I've seen rockets over televieve
And they all look like the exact same video
Yeah, and it's just like why are you so calm just standing out on your balcony? I'd be I mean
That's what they want you to think like we're just so oppressed that this happens all the time
But also the ones in tear on looked kind of fake too. Well, that's the thing
They want you to think there's you know
Something really serious going on to at least freak you out and in uh, well, what do you think about that?
Venezuelan guy who said that the u.s. Used hypersonic weapon a hypersonic
Weapon that made like a burst and made everybody like a like a wave like a wave gun that made
The Venezuelan soldiers start bleeding from their ears and their nose
You're saying this was happened when he was down there just now. Yeah, yeah when trump winding
Yeah, when trump went and got maduro it was one of their kernels there supposedly
There was a leaked letter or something and he said the us hit us with an energy weapon
It made our eyes and nose bleed and we all got super confused
um, and the soldiers the us was not
Hurt by this and they just moved like ghosts in the night in between us and there was nothing we could do
What um, it says the discombobulator
Did us use secret weapon and maduro abduction?
And you know only about a year ago trump was bragging
That and we covered it on freetalk live that we have weapons. You guys don't even know exist
We have weapons that would blow your mind like kind of so think about this
Maduro changed his clothes
They changed his outfit like five times
Right in between his plane rides. Yeah, and why did he have the ear?
The ear plug the ear coverings and the eye coverings on it all the pictures with different outfits. I think he kept bleeding
From his eyes and his ears
Onto the clothes he was wearing so they had to keep giving him new clothes as he got switched off planes
That's wild. We do have a collar on the line. So I want to go to the phones uber george in virginia
You're on freetalk live. What's on your mind?
uh
Sorry to change the subject from whoever's having this stigma out of there, but um
Yeah, apparently tsa now is going to be charging people 45 dollars to go through security
If you don't have real id
Yes, you can link on on twitter excellent. Yes. No actually bonnie. You're the one who
I found this out a secondhand information from you wait just that they're going to start charging
No, yeah that you had to pay like 50 bucks to fly without a real id
They haven't told me that yet when you said that
Well, I guess ellsberg told me that you said something about you just had to pay 50 bucks to fly
No, no, no, no, I when I flew last they didn't do anything to me
And I didn't have real id except question me and annoy me
But I maybe I saw that it could happen or something
But I did not get confirmation it was happening either way. I'm not paying it
Like if I fly anytime soon, I want to get the ticket so I cannot pay it
I love you fun tickets again. Yeah, it would what do you think uber george? What do you think about it?
Yeah, I think it's I think it's just stupid money grab is what it is right there
But in my case, I got a passport. So I was like, it's not like I'm worried about it right there
I got the one of you have a passport. I don't know. So I just fly without a
Without real id. Yeah, I'm yeah, I haven't my family wasn't fancy. We never left the country
Yeah, I got I went to disneyland once and we had to say for 10 years for it last time that I um
Went on a plane was november. So I they were saying that it was required
But all they did was like I said question me like where you going?
Where you gonna?
I don't know just like you got family there stuff like that and uh, they rubbed my hands with this little brush type thing
That kind of like spongy brush thing and it's to check for bomb
Yeah, the etd. That's what they call it the short for explosive trace detections
Which you know, it's going to be a whole lot more false positives in a winter time
You know because a lot of times that rock salt and stuff that you think you know
D. I said
Driveways and sidewalks and stuff that that um sits off those machines all the time. Oh my god, that's crazy
Yeah, I love that love the bureaucracy. Shout out government
No, thanks for that daddy
I don't want you like when you get to the airport, you know, if you're flying in the winter time
Wash your hands thoroughly
Right there at the very minimum. I mean if they if they check your luggage, you know
You might be asked a while there if you're using the pool luggage with the wheels and stuff like that
Yeah, right there, but
Other than that, uh, but you should get a passport man. There's a great big world out there
I mean even even been to japan
Yeah, I just haven't I've been meaning to get around to it. I've just been
I mean the last five years
I've just been spent traveling the united states because I mean this place is bigger than europe
So like there's so many different things to see and biomes do experience from
Like rainforest in washington to the beaches of florida and the deserts and the mountains in between like
I know I was like honestly so shocked that I was on a beach in alabama a beautiful awesome island
With nice beaches and it's the sunset capital of alabama and I I didn't know it existed until my parents
Well, I knew it existed when I was younger
But for some reason I thought it was the name of a town and it wasn't actually an island honestly
That's what I thought
It was awesome
Anyways, oh, yeah, there's I mean, yeah, the us is so beautiful. I think like people don't take advantage of
Of of the country that we live in yeah
For it's just gorgeous. Yeah, a lot of people would like be like, yeah
I want to see the us then see the rest of the world and I'm kind of like the opposite
I kind of want to see all as much of the world I can and then you know
Go to see or more of the us if I can't go to certain other countries and stuff like that
I have been thinking that I want to see europe before we before it gets blown up again
Yeah, because that's that's the trend that it seems to be headed for
Um, I'd start with Italy if I were you roman's beautiful and the food is phenomenal
Yeah, I was thinking like prog because it's a little cheaper like to start with
Um, because I mean it was the capital of like the holy robot empire for a thousand years and sure enough
Well, there's a lot of like culture that isn't talked about and and the check republics pretty cheap to like get to
Well, no, uh, I just may sound like a plug
But if you're gonna go to europe, I guess try flying iceland there right there because it's usually the cheapest and you can get a
Free um, a couple of stopover in iceland to check that out too. Like oh, that sounds cool going on the way back
That's what I did when I went to amsterdam. I took a two night stopover and and rake of egg on the way back
So I could see iceland as well
I bet it is really nice that because I've seen
Justin Bieber music video filmed in iceland and it was so
incredible looking and also
Um, like I got obsessed with bjork last year and I was looking at bison. I was like this place is crazy like really weird
biomes like like like you brought up like um, you know
Different biodiversity. Yeah. Oh, yeah, they have like oh here is a desert
Here's just like a salt bed and here is also just like something else that doesn't seem like it all go together
All touching like coming together and it looks like from if you go up on a plane it'll look like almost like a video game app
We're like the biomes all meet at different areas and are literally like different colors bright different colors
Thanks for letting us know about that uber george. I really do encourage people not to pay the fine because what are they gonna do?
What are they gonna do? Well, if you
If you fly regularly
like for work
Um, eventually they could probably just like arrest you at the airport for not paying them
What are they gonna do if nobody pays this fine?
Um, well, they're gonna brutalize the first couple people that don't and then if enough people don't then they'll quit
I don't think that they can justify brutalizing people over 50 bucks
Like well, they might not like beat you but they could totally like well not if it's 50 bucks
But if it's if you go to court and you say I want to stay the night in jail
And I'm not going to pay it
They most of time won't put you in jail because it makes them look bad
And $50 is less than the amount you get for well is that the ticket?
That's what he said 50 dollars. Well, that's the fee
I mean if you don't if you don't pay it, they'll just won't let you on the plane
Yeah, I guess that's a good point if that if you have to do it for work, but it's like
But I mean they just won't let you on the plane
I don't expect them average nor me who flies from one office building to the next to be doing activism
And no, I get that but I'm saying like if you don't if you don't give them the money
They probably just won't let you board they'll just be like no goodbye
But if enough people don't do it, I think that they will push back like that's what you don't get your money
You don't get your money back, um from the booking that way like the airlines gotten paid the tsa's gotten paid
They don't care if you get on the plane or not that is pretty crazy
If they won't give you your money back for the flight and they didn't let you on
I I don't know if that's what can happen. I haven't seen anything like I'm pretty sure of tsi tsa denies your boarding
I don't think you can get a refund that sounds crazy. Like I I don't know that that's true
But I'm not saying it's false either like that seems not right because if they deny your you're boarding for something
You weren't well, you shouldn't have charged me for it before that
Like I'm pretty sure you could at least take that to court not that that wouldn't also be expensive
I'm not going to pay the fine
I prefer to drive
If my parents lived any closer, I wouldn't have had to fly at all last year. Yeah
Yeah, oh, I guess you are generally entitled a refund a refund
From the airline for the unused portion of your ticket rather than accepting a rebooking. Hmm
They must issue refunds within seven business days. Okay, so I guess they do have to give you their money back
We have seen tsa
scale back after years of people not complying
I really am interested in this sonic weapon, but um
I didn't understand the
Joke that uber george made when he came in about like seemed like something to do with like maybe a movie with the sonic weapon use
Yeah, I don't know any meant
You seem to laugh at it. I just uh, I thought he was just making fun of me for being a conspiracy theorist
Oh, okay. Maybe just like smirked. I was just like, okay, buddy. I thought it was a joke about
Um, I thought was a joke about like maybe something like this happens in a movie. Okay
I could it is pretty fantastical. It sounds like something from a movie. Yeah, like not x-men. Um, the one where the men in black
It seems like men in black or something like that
So this is from al jazeera only six days ago
The discombobulator did us use secret weapon in maduro abduction
US president donald trump refers to a sonic weapon. He describes as a discombobulator
Trump referred to it
But what is he talking about?
I'm looking at the picture here
It says venezuelan defense minister valadimir
Padrino Lopez, right
greets cuban foreign minister bruno rodriguez padilla on january 8th
2026 after he was presented with an award for recognizing the cubans
Killed during the u.s. Operation to abduct venezuelan president. Nicola nicolas maduro. So somebody did get hurt
I thought they said there was no u.s. Fatalities. No, it says cubans
Oh, the cubans killed while trying to defend maduro. Okay. Okay
Oh, I didn't hear about the cubans to be honest either. That's so sad
Venezuela's defense minister has accused the united states of using the country as a weapons laboratory
during the abduction of president
Nicholas maduro and his wife cilia flores on january 3rd
Vladimir padrino lopez said last week that the u.s. Had used
Venezuela as a testing ground for advanced military technologies that rely on artificial intelligence
and weaponry never used before according to
The venezuelan newspaper l universal there we go l universal
On sunday u.s. President donald trump told the new york post that u.s. Forces had indeed used a weapon
He referred to as the discombobulator. Oh my gosh
No, why isn't this why isn't everybody talking about this? I'm not allowed to talk about it. He said okay
That's why nobody's talking about it. I think but still as ridiculous. What do you mean? You're not allowed to talk about it and you are
Uh, he said adding that the weapon made equipment not work during the operation
I'm not allowed to talk about it. I call it the the discombobulator. I I don't know how to work
All right, dr. Duffinschmerz
Yeah
Oh my gosh, this guy's such a crazy man crazy troll. Oh my gosh
This is crazy. Yes. What a what a crazy troll
Details of the u.s. Military mission to abduct maduro have not been made public
But the u.s. Has been known to use weapons to disorient soldiers and guards or disable equipment and infrastructure in the past
Did you know it's actual actual fact absolute fact that the u.s. government
I
Guess you'd say looked into or studied
And tried to create a weapon to turn enemy soldiers gay. Yeah, the gay bomb. Yeah, the gay bomb. I've heard about it
Yeah, uh, brickelberry covered the gay bomb. I don't know who that is. It's just uh, it was a daniel tosh
uh animated
adult comedy
And they were all rangers at a national park and somehow
Like a gay bomb went off and it turned everybody else gay in the big lesbian woman straight
And she had to like save the day as a straight woman
And and have like an anti gay bomb go off. So everybody went back to normal. That's hilarious. That's really funny
I can't I just like I can't believe it. I mean, but at the same time I can so yeah, the the idea with the gay bomb
Was kind of discombobulating everyone like suddenly a bunch of men are marching next to each other towards you
And then suddenly boom. They're all the greek and later. Oh my gosh. We'll turn the other armies gay
They make them greek. They seem to be able to work
Fine and be gay. So I just don't understand. Yeah, maybe it might make them fight harder. That was the idea with the greeks, right?
maybe
crazy
Anyway, it doesn't seem like they use the gay bomb on in war
Maybe they use the gay bomb or something like it in
domestic
You know use with the frogs. I don't know
But anyways, he says he's all have to talk about it
And then and then this article Al Jazeera says details of the u.s military mission to abduct Maduro have not been made public
But the u.s has been known to use weapons to disorient soldiers and guards or disable equipment and infrastructure in the past
Here's what we know
What has the venezuelan defense minister said on january 16th
Padrino Lopez said 47 venezuelan soldiers had been killed during the us attack on caracas
32 cuban soldiers some of them providing protection to maduro were also killed
Then last week he made the weapons laboratory accusations and was quoted by l universal saying
The president of the united states admitted that they had used weapons that had never been used on battlefields
Weapons that no one in the world possessed. They used that technology against the venezuelan people on january 3rd
2026
I really wonder if it was created on dogway-proving grounds crazy
He appeared to be
Referring to an interview trump gave to the us news channel news
Nation in which he said a sonic weapon had been used
Yeah, sonic blast. That's what I do. Yeah a wave like a energy wave
I think I can probably play this video without any problems considering
I would assume that trump doesn't curse here. So let's see. Let's see
You know people are saying it goes down with one of the most incredible. It was so complex
152 aeroplanes many many
Talk about boots in the ground. We had a lot of boots on the ground
But it was amazing and think of it. Nobody was killed and on the other side a lot of people were killed
Unfortunately, I say that soldiers
Um, interesting. I thought that he wasn't admitting it, but maybe maybe it took a while for him to admit it
Maybe living off going for going on
Cubans mostly cubans, but many many killed and they were
They knew we were coming and they were protected and our guys weren't you know
Our guys are jumping out of helicopters and they're not protected and they were but it was so brilliant the
Electricity for almost the entire
Country was boom turned off. That's when they knew that the entire country
I thought that this was like just a big crowd of soldiers or something. Oh, no, they they crippled they crippled
Venezuela's ability to do anything for like five hours
There's a problem. There was no electricity
Caracas said there's no electricity. It's not a the only people with lights were the people that had candles
was just off
So we sort of got them a little by surprise, but it was a brilliant. It was brilliant tactically. It was an incredible thing
And if you think about it, everybody was like, how did this just happen overnight and how'd they do it so quickly like there were some
you know, American
You know like super neocon or super super into
War type people being like you should be happy that your country can can get this
Get this done. You see what I'm saying that means they can get to you
Yeah, like half a second. I know and people don't think about that means they can shut down
America's power to you
Yeah, and not even just the government doing it to us. I mean, there's still
I mean other forces out there at play that would not mind seeing the
Power grid fall in the u.s. Right
And although sitting here thinking it's a solar flare and yeah, who knows or aliens
Yeah, that's creepy. It's also kind of like insensitive and gross the way he was like the only people that had lights and people that had candles
Yeah, I don't like that
So this article goes on what is trump said about us secret weapons days after maduro's
Abduction white house press secretary caroline levitt reposted comments that appears have been posted on x by a venezuelan security guard
He wrote that the u.s. Had launched something during the operation that was like a very intense sound wave
Why is caroline levitt reposting that what?
It
Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside
That's cruel
This security guard wrote we all started bleeding from the nose somewhere vomiting blood
We fell to the ground unable to move. I wonder if anybody died from this probably
It just says alga zero has not been able to verify the account
In his news nation interview last week trump said the sonic weapon used
Was used against maduro's cuban bodyguards and what he described as a heavily fortified area
No one else has it
And we have weapons no one knows about trump said
And I say it's probably best not to talk about them, but we have some incredible weapons. That was an incredible attack
Don't forget that house was in the middle of a fortress in a military base
And it's like I couldn't wrap my head around how I woke i went to sleep one night woke up the next day and
america
had
maduro
Grabbed and shipped back to the u.s. Like zero zero u.s. Casualties
It's really quick. Yeah
And does that make it right?
No, no, I'm just saying that it this is actually making it make more sense
This discombobulator could be why it was so easy for them. Yeah, especially if u.s. troops didn't get affected by it
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and what are they doing to not be affected by it? That's interesting to
Take oil hats. Yeah, who knows under their helmets
Maybe they maybe they blast them and then and then drop in like let it take effects and then follow up
Like at a safe distance. That's that's my best explanation other than like
Modifying them like they have some kind of like pill they can take, you know
I'm not saying that's yeah, or maybe like they have head gear on like their earphones and stuff or like
Built to withstand it. Hmm interesting
so
Then on sunday trump was quoted by the new york post as saying the u.s. Had
Used a weapon designed to disable defensive equipment the discombobulator. He said i'm not allowed to talk about it
ridiculous
What's sonic rather disabling weapons has the u.s. Been known to use in the past
The best known sonic systems used by the u.s. Are directional acoustic hailing and warning devices
especially the long-range acoustic device
L. R. A. D. Brussels based military and political analyst Elijah
Magnia are told Al Jazeera. These are not traditional weapons instead. They are powerful focused sound projectors used for things like stopping ships
Securing bases protecting convoys managing checkpoints and sometimes crowd control
He said the main purpose of these devices is to control behavior by sending voice commands over long distances at a
High volume they can cause discomfort and are designed to force people to either comply with the commands or leave an area
So creepy sounds like something they would use like in a
I mean there was it was a kill streak on black ops, too
It was like a microwave directed energy weapon that would hurt people that you could deploy
So like i mean the idea has been around for a while
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