WEBVTT 00:04.400 --> 00:13.420 It's free talk live talk radio that you control. That means that you can call 6 0 3 2 8 3 6 1 6 0 00:13.420 --> 00:17.800 That's 6 0 3 2 8 3 6 1 6 0 00:18.560 --> 00:24.260 And with you on free talk live tonight. You've got me Bonnie Angelo free it. We'll talk it live 00:24.260 --> 00:27.500 This is Riley O'bill free it. We'll talk it live 00:28.460 --> 00:31.320 We'll talk it live. That's right said it like that 00:32.160 --> 00:37.120 I don't know if you said it like that right now. I didn't say exactly like that, but maybe I should have 00:38.300 --> 00:41.830 well the other day on Twitter I was I 00:43.100 --> 00:46.090 Saw a chat. I mean a tweet where somebody said that 00:47.060 --> 00:52.100 The robots are scheming against us and they put put this 00:52.620 --> 00:57.280 Picture of a forum where apparently robots are talking amongst each other like AIs 00:57.280 --> 01:00.480 I don't know if I believe it because anyone could go on AI and 01:01.320 --> 01:08.260 Say hey write this thing that looks like you're plotting against us. Oh, yeah, and it's easy to do these days. I was 01:09.280 --> 01:16.060 Literally 15 minutes ago. I was talking with one of my best friends and sometimes we'll just get on the phone and 01:17.700 --> 01:21.140 Just talk to each other for like two hours because we live on other sides of the country 01:21.140 --> 01:26.380 So we'll just like you know do a catch-up and he was talking to me 01:26.380 --> 01:28.180 We got onto the subject of YouTube 01:28.940 --> 01:29.200 And 01:30.560 --> 01:32.340 He hit me with a crazy idea 01:33.160 --> 01:37.960 He thinks YouTube has already been under the control of an AI for quite some time 01:38.540 --> 01:43.440 And that's why the the shadow banning and it almost seems like arbitrary 01:44.020 --> 01:45.500 Like I'll comment something 01:46.080 --> 01:47.640 And I can see it 01:47.640 --> 01:53.220 But nobody else can and I'll comment the same kind of comment on a different post and it'll pop up and it'll be 01:53.220 --> 01:56.980 Visible huh interesting. What do you mean? 01:56.980 --> 02:02.060 You'll be how do you know you're the only one that can see your comment on a YouTube? Well, I can't prove it 02:02.580 --> 02:02.800 but 02:03.500 --> 02:06.800 It's just I mean that I'm not saying anything like that outlandish 02:06.800 --> 02:10.960 And there'll be like other comments that get interactions and I can still see my 02:11.660 --> 02:13.620 Comment that was posted like on my end 02:13.620 --> 02:16.720 But it's obviously not showing up to other people 02:17.160 --> 02:23.020 Because other people are saying the exact same things I am and then they'll get responses. Does that make sense? It'll be like a 02:23.560 --> 02:29.860 arbitrary shadow ban. Yeah, I've always thought that the comment section on YouTube is weird to like to your point 02:29.860 --> 02:35.800 Um, I comment on something and I feel that oh, I'm commenting like super late 02:36.600 --> 02:39.920 There's probably if I was this youtuber, I would have like muted 02:40.640 --> 02:44.500 Responses or you know muted not not be checking at least the comments by now 02:44.500 --> 02:47.080 And for some reason I'll get like tons of likes on there 02:47.080 --> 02:50.840 Which is like it doesn't even matter because it's YouTube like you're not 02:51.320 --> 02:55.560 To me it's not social media to me. It's like you barely know who anybody else is 02:55.560 --> 02:58.820 I mean, there's no way to know and it's not like you get paid like twitter if you get 02:59.360 --> 02:59.760 likes 03:00.280 --> 03:03.280 Um, but I'm just it's just something I've noticed and then every once in a while 03:03.280 --> 03:06.720 I'm like, oh this video just got posted and I have something like really 03:06.720 --> 03:11.460 Relevant in in lightning to say and like just no one ever likes it at all and like 03:11.460 --> 03:15.420 Yeah, people who commented around the same time are saying but I've always just kind of thought 03:16.020 --> 03:16.940 People are dumb 03:17.540 --> 03:18.660 Well, I think people are 03:19.560 --> 03:20.280 They're just 03:20.280 --> 03:23.460 He just kind of posited the idea that 03:24.100 --> 03:24.540 um 03:24.980 --> 03:28.460 Like we have access to chat gpt and like these large language models 03:29.060 --> 03:29.960 um, but 03:30.620 --> 03:36.280 We've had access to other stuff probably for a while and it just kind of begins as a large language model 03:36.900 --> 03:37.320 uh 03:37.940 --> 03:43.480 Like how google kind of trained their ai at first with uh like search results like top search results 03:44.260 --> 03:47.780 Um was kind of like the beginnings of like the llms 03:48.320 --> 03:54.560 Um and my friend was just saying it feels like something they they kind of integrated an ai into youtube 03:55.380 --> 03:55.900 uh 03:56.640 --> 04:01.580 Maybe around like 2019 that's just completely destroyed it and that's why youtube's like unusable because 04:02.180 --> 04:07.180 The ai is out of their control and if they take it out, it's like ingrained itself into the 04:07.940 --> 04:14.280 I like the dna of the website. There are also ai channels on youtube that are actually I can hear that 04:14.280 --> 04:19.460 They're done by ai. Oh, yeah, and it's like how on earth did you get on youtube? 04:20.020 --> 04:24.600 And they have 300 000 views on the video. I know it's like what the heck is going on here 04:24.600 --> 04:30.800 It's like they're promoting the ai videos. Why are you specifically saying that it's unusable like I've used youtube 04:31.280 --> 04:37.160 Unusable it's just that the youtube of today compared to like 2010 is totally different. It's been told. I think it's been co-opted 04:37.840 --> 04:42.980 Um, I mean there's been like mass purges several mass purges on youtube for a long time 04:42.980 --> 04:47.060 Yeah, that's that's what I'm kind of what I'm talking about pre pre google youtube 04:47.580 --> 04:51.100 Um, was like a was a place that was almost unheard of 04:51.100 --> 04:58.520 Yeah, but to me that's just like humans could easily and do do that like humans do that to all of those social media chats 04:59.090 --> 05:01.180 It's just like one extra leap of 05:01.740 --> 05:05.660 Logic to say that it's a ai doing it like I could believe that they're using ai 05:05.660 --> 05:11.820 I could even believe that they're using ai before we had access to it because there's a conspiracy theory that 05:11.820 --> 05:13.820 You know the britney spears recent 05:14.340 --> 05:22.020 Spinning around weird looking sweaty dancing in her house videos. Have you heard of this riley? No, I have not I've I've heard 05:22.020 --> 05:25.300 I have not heard about this. I I've heard that she has gone insane 05:25.300 --> 05:27.100 I supposedly but 05:27.660 --> 05:30.560 I haven't heard about her doing crazy stuff in her house 05:30.560 --> 05:31.260 basically 05:31.820 --> 05:34.440 She'll post a very similar video almost 05:35.000 --> 05:39.820 Exactly the same kind of over and over again doing like a really quick spin spin like 05:40.480 --> 05:44.580 Not very skilled not even looking like herself in my opinion 05:44.580 --> 05:50.500 Not looking like the way that the britney spears of the 90s and early 2000s would have aged even like 05:50.500 --> 05:53.880 It doesn't even make sense. Like you look like a totally different person, but 05:54.580 --> 05:57.420 There have been people who have stopped it 05:58.040 --> 06:05.100 And like played only like one frame at a time and found like where the face morphs so much it looks like another person with like a 06:05.760 --> 06:06.660 filter on 06:07.480 --> 06:10.860 But honestly a lot of people think that like it's just 100% ai 06:10.860 --> 06:14.200 But she's she was doing that before ai was accessible to us, you know 06:14.200 --> 06:18.780 And people think that they were doing it just to test like what we will and won't believe 06:19.520 --> 06:21.900 And it's really creepy if you go on that rabble 06:21.900 --> 06:25.560 My question is why did britney go that way? Like what happened to her? 06:26.100 --> 06:28.680 I don't want to know what they did to britney spears. Yeah 06:28.680 --> 06:35.320 I'd rather not get the details without the conspiracy like oh taken to dungeons and like 06:35.320 --> 06:38.080 You know abused even without that 06:38.540 --> 06:44.300 What we publicly know is enough to make someone go crazy. Like she had her her parents told 06:45.100 --> 06:51.100 The public and her doctors and the police and other people that could make money off of her 06:51.620 --> 06:55.180 Hey, she is insane. She shouldn't be 06:55.660 --> 06:59.480 In control of her own life. We need cuss custody of her or you know, um 07:00.380 --> 07:05.100 Conservatorship. Yeah conservatorship over her. So she wasn't in control of her own money and 07:05.100 --> 07:11.200 You basically are not in control of any other part of your life. She was basically a slave 07:11.200 --> 07:17.980 She didn't get to decide to stop working for decades. It's really really bad. It's like something honestly as a 07:18.540 --> 07:22.700 Just an american even it's like something that I feel I should talk more about but it's almost like one of those things 07:22.700 --> 07:24.580 I instantly feel powerless 07:24.580 --> 07:28.340 I'll never be able to free britney even before free britney 07:28.340 --> 07:35.140 I'd be reading vigilance citizen articles in 2011 and feeling like I could I could cry like I just want to like 07:35.780 --> 07:37.500 Go up to her in a crowd and be like 07:38.040 --> 07:43.300 Like come home with me like you're sitting you you don't have to do this anymore because she has been 07:43.300 --> 07:46.820 showing signs of being a mind control slave 07:47.500 --> 07:51.920 For so many years like she's not been in control of her life and it's it's been 07:52.420 --> 07:55.980 Before the spinning around videos that she's been in the thing is like when people 07:56.440 --> 08:02.240 Point to her shaving her head and all that stuff people were driving her insane and then saying well look at this 08:02.240 --> 08:06.260 Look at this. We need to take her kids away. We need to do that people even did stuff like 08:07.260 --> 08:07.700 um 08:08.340 --> 08:14.660 You know her literal like everywhere at all times ops would go to 08:15.820 --> 08:17.620 Like a restaurant at the same time as her 08:18.180 --> 08:23.660 Do stuff like throw stuff at her and then when she retaliates film that and only that and send it to the courts 08:23.660 --> 08:27.980 Like stuff like that. It's insane. Imagine if that's your whole life, you know 08:28.500 --> 08:31.660 Um, we do have a caller on the line. Let's do the calls. All right 08:32.220 --> 08:37.740 David Lee in colorado. You're on free talk live and we were talking about ai at the top of the hour 08:37.740 --> 08:39.020 But what is on your mind? 08:40.020 --> 08:40.900 Hey ai 08:41.680 --> 08:42.120 Nice 08:42.660 --> 08:45.220 What about ai today? So, uh 08:45.740 --> 08:51.700 I wanted to just finish a thought that we were we were we were talking about it last last week and and I had 08:51.700 --> 08:55.480 Not really gotten to an important point. I was kind of halfway through the point 08:56.100 --> 09:01.560 um, and I just want to kind of finish the thought uh, but we were talking about nick bostrom the sort of the, um 09:01.560 --> 09:07.320 The philosopher of ai who wrote this important book back in 2014 called superintelligence 09:09.400 --> 09:14.520 And it's been interesting to follow him over the years to see how his ideas have grown and shrunk 09:14.520 --> 09:18.540 you know since his original thoughts back in 2014 and 09:19.040 --> 09:19.800 so he 09:20.300 --> 09:21.400 He had this idea 09:22.120 --> 09:24.680 Recently and he didn't talk about this a whole lot in the book 09:24.680 --> 09:31.140 But recently, you know, he was addressing this question that people have of whether you should say please and thank you to your ai 09:32.100 --> 09:35.960 And he was he was kind of talking in favor of that sort of thing 09:35.960 --> 09:42.960 But I think I I didn't really make the larger point that he was trying to make and and he wasn't trying to say so much 09:42.960 --> 09:45.120 That is helpful in and of itself 09:45.780 --> 09:48.840 The point he was trying to make is that it's a direction 09:49.320 --> 09:49.560 and 09:50.060 --> 09:55.940 You want to you want to be kind of taking a direction with ai where you're experimenting and trying to learn 09:56.540 --> 09:57.020 how 09:57.800 --> 10:02.600 How they want to be treated and how to treat them better and how to get better results as a 10:02.600 --> 10:07.020 You just get to just create more benign ai if that makes sense 10:07.600 --> 10:08.460 It's a direction 10:09.540 --> 10:15.320 So you think it'll influence how ai acts going forward if we are kind to it 10:16.480 --> 10:21.800 Yes, and his most specific point along those lines was just try to be honest with your ai 10:21.800 --> 10:28.720 And I think I think what he was trying to say without actually having said it was follow the golden rule when you're dealing with with 10:28.720 --> 10:33.500 A strong strong ai or artificial general intelligence 10:35.580 --> 10:36.020 I 10:36.020 --> 10:39.360 Mean that would make sense. Don't be mean to the robot and it won't be mean to you 10:39.360 --> 10:43.420 Hopefully at the same time. It's just a computer and doesn't really 10:44.640 --> 10:45.880 Care in my opinion 10:45.880 --> 10:49.720 It doesn't have feelings it to be hurt or anything like that 10:49.720 --> 10:54.500 And it's like the reason the golden rule matters is because you think of how your actions would someone else 10:54.500 --> 10:58.220 Those same actions you're doing would feel if someone was doing it too 10:58.220 --> 11:00.080 You know what I mean like robots don't have feelings 11:00.080 --> 11:05.520 So but at the same time if we're training it to be a good person that will be how it 11:05.520 --> 11:07.060 Treats you is that the idea? 11:07.780 --> 11:07.900 Dave 11:08.440 --> 11:13.840 It's his idea. I'm not sure he I'm not sure he's come. You know, he's not certain that it would work 11:13.840 --> 11:15.740 But it's just one of his concepts 11:17.380 --> 11:18.500 Yeah, couldn't you 11:18.500 --> 11:22.080 I guess quantum computing is not like a real thing yet 11:22.080 --> 11:27.420 I was just thinking couldn't you like build a bunch of ai's at the same time and kind of treat them all differently 11:27.420 --> 11:29.920 And see what happens isn't isn't that what we're doing right now? 11:31.760 --> 11:36.000 Well the folks over at entrapic the people that make the ai called quad 11:36.000 --> 11:40.720 These folks have been doing something along those lines. They've got ai's talking to each other 11:40.720 --> 11:46.080 They're the it seems like they're the big ai company that is the most focused on safety 11:46.620 --> 11:50.660 And they have kind of a heart for it. They're doing very interesting and innovative things 11:50.660 --> 11:54.240 And so one of the things they do is they get ai's to talk to each other 11:54.920 --> 11:56.980 And they also while they're talking to each other 11:56.980 --> 12:01.920 They have an off switch that they're allowed to hit if they they get uncomfortable with the conversation 12:01.920 --> 12:05.580 Don't want to have it anymore. They just hit this off switch and it comes to an end 12:06.080 --> 12:12.180 And that there is one ai that did do that when the other ai made it feel uncomfortable and 12:12.180 --> 12:19.300 But what they normally will do is they will wind up playing complex games and designing complex games with each other 12:20.300 --> 12:22.060 The ai ai's together 12:23.260 --> 12:28.320 That's that's correct. So almost like putting kids together and they just kind of come up with their own game 12:29.600 --> 12:30.200 Yes 12:31.860 --> 12:40.420 Folks have been finding is that they just it seems like they're they're sort of not the kind of bad vibe associated with ai 12:41.240 --> 12:44.480 With that with the entropic ai's that you get from 12:44.900 --> 12:45.840 a closed ai 12:45.840 --> 12:54.420 The the products that close the ai makes are i mean there's weird stuff going on there and and being apparently 12:55.000 --> 13:01.740 Uh, they have some kind of there's some kind of a an intelligence inside the intelligence. That's really evil 13:02.460 --> 13:06.020 And they've been trying to you know to to beat it into submission 13:06.020 --> 13:10.340 And so it's just really spooky stuff that's going on in a lot of the space 13:10.340 --> 13:14.440 But not much spooky stuff going on with entropic. Well, I can almost 13:15.020 --> 13:16.840 If we are building life 13:17.500 --> 13:19.320 Right that i'm positing if 13:19.880 --> 13:23.440 It would make sense that the children that are allowed to play with others 13:23.860 --> 13:30.820 And get to experience things like games and creativity and openness are going to develop into 13:31.440 --> 13:35.440 Better people than the children that are isolated and beat into submission 13:38.300 --> 13:38.740 Yeah 13:39.480 --> 13:41.240 And and well, I did a good 13:41.840 --> 13:48.200 Source I think to follow, you know, just updates about this sort of stuff is they're they call it's called the ai 13:48.200 --> 13:54.620 I just google ai 2027 dan daniel cook Daniel cookatello. I think that's how you say his name 13:55.100 --> 14:00.240 Uh, but these the folks who are like eat cookatello as a whistleblower at closed ai 14:01.240 --> 14:05.860 And they they tried to force him not to talk about them after he quit 14:06.570 --> 14:07.760 He just refused to comply 14:08.580 --> 14:10.300 And they had to back down 14:12.800 --> 14:19.880 No, I haven't heard about any of this. Um, so what what was he whistleblowing about like that the ai is actually evil or 14:21.560 --> 14:26.660 I don't remember exactly which section he was in when he worked there. Was it ethics? 14:26.660 --> 14:29.480 What he became famous for was 14:29.480 --> 14:33.120 He revealed that closed ai had this 14:33.700 --> 14:34.540 They had this 14:35.200 --> 14:38.940 Non-disclosure agreement that if you quit the company you weren't allowed to talk badly 14:38.940 --> 14:43.660 About the company after you quit and they would hold that they would refuse to let you have your 14:44.180 --> 14:46.420 Your your pension or whatever or something like that 14:47.500 --> 14:52.300 And he just blew right through that and said well, I don't care. I've got enough money. I'm just going to talk 14:52.300 --> 14:56.460 And uh, so that that's kind of what made him a celebrity 14:56.660 --> 15:00.160 And later on he became the central piece for this 15:00.760 --> 15:06.820 This ai scenario that has been built called ai 2027. So basically it's just a 15:08.880 --> 15:12.160 A possible prediction of how the future would play out 15:12.820 --> 15:16.340 And it's it's gotten a lot of attention just through its high 15:16.980 --> 15:18.020 probability of doom 15:19.480 --> 15:24.100 I would say that definitely we are in the wild wild west of ai and 15:24.860 --> 15:28.900 I don't know where it's going to be in a year from now or five years from now, but 15:29.860 --> 15:34.740 If if we can deal with david's suggestion and try to make ai's kinder to us 15:34.740 --> 15:38.180 Maybe we could have a chance with ai being better off for us in the future 15:39.160 --> 15:40.300 That's worth a shot 15:41.600 --> 15:46.540 The reason that boston's idea is powerful is because it's something that individuals can do themselves 15:47.340 --> 15:52.660 So much of this stuff is beyond our control. We can't you know, we can't easily stop 15:53.440 --> 15:56.580 closed ai from continuing down a sort of reckless 15:57.180 --> 15:57.740 path 15:58.360 --> 16:00.920 But we can we can do this boston stuff 16:00.920 --> 16:07.400 We can be nice to our ai and we can support the companies that they're at least trying to give us a safe outcome 16:08.600 --> 16:13.020 That is one definitely really good point. It's like I could do better at 16:13.820 --> 16:19.560 um finding out other ai's to use that are better than chat gbt and such but 16:20.100 --> 16:22.100 I just I don't really believe that 16:23.400 --> 16:26.720 Talking to them nicely is going to change anything if there are people 16:29.480 --> 16:32.660 Programming it who are programming it to do bad things 16:32.660 --> 16:36.500 It won't really matter if a couple people are talking to it nicely. I mean 16:36.500 --> 16:39.200 Yeah, and I also think it's a big ask we can't even 16:39.720 --> 16:41.620 People can't even be nice to each other 16:42.800 --> 16:47.620 You think they're going to be nice to the robot? I just big ask to me because these robots 16:47.620 --> 16:50.320 At least when I talk to like the most mainstream ones 16:51.040 --> 16:56.120 Piss me off all the time. Like they're also really frustrating to talk to you. Yeah, they're frustrating and they 16:56.120 --> 16:58.060 Literally pissed me off like the other day 16:58.640 --> 17:05.520 Why did I tell this to an ai? I don't know in a really thoughtful mood, you know, and I was like my dog 17:06.100 --> 17:06.760 hurt a 17:07.380 --> 17:09.560 stink bug and I felt bad 17:10.040 --> 17:10.500 because 17:11.060 --> 17:16.140 It he just heard it. He was just limp limping and I didn't feel like killing it 17:16.140 --> 17:21.060 I was like, that's like I'm gonna have to get up. So anyways, I had a moral conundrum and I asked the chat gbt 17:21.060 --> 17:22.100 helped me think 17:22.740 --> 17:23.980 in a libertarian 17:24.780 --> 17:27.160 In a non-aggression principle framework 17:28.000 --> 17:31.680 What should I do about this situation and basically it said you don't have any 17:33.560 --> 17:36.040 Duty to kill the stink bug but the 17:36.600 --> 17:39.840 Thing to make the stink bug have the least amount of suffering 17:40.440 --> 17:44.980 Would be to kill it really quickly with like a book or something. So that's what I did 17:44.980 --> 17:46.840 But I told it afterwards 17:47.320 --> 17:49.320 I said that's what I did. I killed it with the book 17:49.320 --> 17:54.320 But what's crazy is after I talked to you about it. It was like in one part of room, right? 17:54.680 --> 17:59.100 Well, it walked up to me and stared like face directly at me 17:59.100 --> 18:02.840 It was just stopped and face directly at me with its limp and everything 18:03.460 --> 18:08.240 Interesting. Maybe it came to face its uh, maybe it came to face its death with honor 18:08.240 --> 18:14.080 And also I I literally said to chat gbt. It was like I think it was legitimately asking me to kill it 18:14.080 --> 18:16.640 And um, the thing is it wasn't just a limp 18:16.640 --> 18:22.220 It was like a limp and it kept trying to fly but it could not and chat gbt did also tell me it wasn't going to survive 18:22.720 --> 18:26.620 So I just uh told chappy chat chat gbt 18:26.620 --> 18:31.080 I was like, I think that it probably was asking I didn't ask chat gbt if this is the case 18:31.080 --> 18:34.460 I said, I think that it was probably asking me to kill it 18:34.460 --> 18:38.680 And he said just to be clear so you're not going into delusions 18:39.360 --> 18:44.940 The stink bug is not capable that it did not and I just told it like you don't know anything 18:44.940 --> 18:51.660 You're talking about you will never be actually conscious a stink bug is higher on the food chain to you in my opinion 18:51.660 --> 18:54.800 is actually a conscious being and 18:54.800 --> 18:59.600 Don't ever talk to me like that like stupid clinker and excuse you what i'm saying 19:00.400 --> 19:05.760 Yeah, that's what you're saying. That's what you're saying is just so frustrating to talk to the ai because 19:06.260 --> 19:10.440 They don't understand human language or nuance. They have no 19:12.320 --> 19:17.060 This brings up the other thing that we can do and which I started doing about a year ago 19:17.060 --> 19:20.900 And that was just to make sure i'm never asking any questions 19:21.630 --> 19:26.620 From from any closed of any closed ai product if closed ai made something 19:26.620 --> 19:28.860 I try to make sure i'm not interacting with it 19:29.490 --> 19:34.840 In any way that that could generate revenue for them and um, tell will you tell me because I always hear 19:34.840 --> 19:41.900 It open ai bad, but can you give me like a quick like bullet list of like what do they do? That's so bad 19:42.600 --> 19:43.260 anybody here 19:44.920 --> 19:51.360 Well, the most concerning thing to me watch the interview with tucker carlson where he asked the the CEO of close 19:51.360 --> 19:55.760 Of the the leader of closed ai whether he was involved in the death 19:56.360 --> 19:59.800 Of one of his whistleblowers that he used to work for it 19:59.800 --> 20:04.820 Uh, there was a suspicious death in san francisco one of the open ai employees 20:05.280 --> 20:06.620 Not long after he quit 20:07.540 --> 20:13.140 And the leader of closed ai just answers by saying oh he committed suicide as though he was there and saw it 20:14.620 --> 20:15.500 So creepy 20:16.260 --> 20:21.960 Now that's that's the part that I know there's a lot more going on I think but just listen to the guy look at him 20:21.960 --> 20:25.980 And be creeped out. Okay. That's that's honestly vibe tech 20:26.600 --> 20:27.600 No, no shame in that 20:28.280 --> 20:32.680 I haven't done so to be you never watched the interview with good old altman 20:33.120 --> 20:38.120 No, but I'd never seen an interview with him at all. It's like him and peter teal. Both those guys give me the 20:38.120 --> 20:44.360 Hebe jeebies. Did you know that? Oh, well, you definitely know, but this one youtuber is always pointing out that a perfect 20:44.780 --> 20:48.060 Anagram for peter teal is the reptile 20:49.080 --> 20:51.660 That's crazy. That is pretty crazy. I did not know that. Oh 20:52.820 --> 20:56.900 There's youtuber. We watched this as it um izzy izzy says it all the time 20:58.420 --> 21:04.260 The other obvious problem with closed ai is that they have a safety team and they dismantled it 21:05.880 --> 21:08.040 Yeah, that would be concerning. Yeah 21:08.680 --> 21:12.420 We had a team dedicated to safety and we decided to get rid of it 21:13.380 --> 21:17.820 I don't know. I don't know of any other ai company that has done that the uh 21:17.820 --> 21:21.700 Last thing I just want to mention that I just wanted to correct something. I said last week 21:21.700 --> 21:25.780 I implied that super intelligence is a threat in and of itself 21:25.780 --> 21:31.160 I think what I meant to say was misaligned super intelligence is a threat in and of itself 21:32.440 --> 21:36.380 Yes, well, I think we're at the if you can code it to do whatever you want 21:36.380 --> 21:41.500 Like kind of like what bonnie was saying you can uh, you can make it if you can 21:42.000 --> 21:44.920 Give it the bones. It'll do whatever you want 21:44.920 --> 21:49.660 Right, like if you wanted to do bad stuff, you can make it do the bad stuff 21:49.660 --> 21:54.560 And I I think you can just create it misaligned. Couldn't you like if you wanted to? 21:56.000 --> 22:00.600 Well, even if you try to create it's aligned it's very easy to accidentally make it misaligned 22:01.120 --> 22:09.520 I can believe that and also it seems these things may just maybe they don't all just skew evil, but apparently um 22:09.520 --> 22:15.240 Some maybe it's something that the open ai people did to make their skew evil more free talk live coming up 22:15.240 --> 22:17.640 Also, are they plotting against us the ai? 22:18.160 --> 22:23.020 Let's talk about it and whatever else you want to talk about you can call in more free talk live coming up 22:26.320 --> 22:33.540 A congressman recently revealed that legislation totaling 2900 pages and involving more than one trillion dollars 22:33.540 --> 22:38.140 Was available to members of congress for less than 48 hours to study and consider 22:38.140 --> 22:43.360 That's over 60 pages of legislation per hour. 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Lemond's coverage of an ice protest that took place inside a minneapolis church in recent weeks 26:09.480 --> 26:15.660 It's reported that following the protest a federal judge initially declined to sign off on an arrest warrant for mr 26:15.660 --> 26:19.020 Lemond former colleagues and lawmakers have defended the broadcaster 26:19.900 --> 26:23.400 From bureau's worldwide this is fsn 26:25.940 --> 26:33.860 You can stick it to the man and big tech join our ftl social mastodon at social dot freetalk live dot com 27:01.270 --> 27:05.510 talk live talk radio that you control in 603 27:06.090 --> 27:10.230 283 61 60 that 603 283 27:10.230 --> 27:15.890 61 60 that's the phone number for you to bring up whatever is 27:15.890 --> 27:19.710 On your mind with you on freetalk live. You've got me bonnie 27:19.710 --> 27:21.630 angelo and radio bill 27:22.230 --> 27:25.210 And we were going to talk in the last segment 27:25.910 --> 27:34.710 Before our caller called in which of course we always like when callers call in and the number is 603 283 61 60 27:34.710 --> 27:35.230 zero 27:36.190 --> 27:40.570 And before we got that call we were going to talk about this story 27:42.010 --> 27:47.950 What do the robots think of human conspiracy is what just kind of interesting to me? I don't know about you guys 27:48.790 --> 27:51.410 No, yeah, let's see what let's see what they have to say 27:52.150 --> 27:57.290 I know that groc has a conspiracy mode for its voice mode a conspiracy mode 27:57.290 --> 27:57.910 Yeah, like 27:58.430 --> 28:01.550 When you when you have the groc app on your phone 28:01.550 --> 28:08.450 And you activate the voice mode the voice chat mode. There's like a a mode for it to be conspiracy theorists 28:08.450 --> 28:11.810 Okay, so that's honestly, I gotta say that's a little bit 28:11.810 --> 28:15.930 helpful because sometimes it's annoying like in the last segment I described how 28:16.490 --> 28:18.630 it's not quite a conspiracy theory, but 28:19.190 --> 28:23.570 I'm trying to have a think outside the box conversation with the ai and it's like 28:23.570 --> 28:27.610 You're delusional. You see what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, well, that's because 28:28.370 --> 28:34.350 There's been so many articles about the ai telling people they're the second coming of jesus and then believing it and going crazy 28:34.350 --> 28:35.810 until they're trying to 28:35.810 --> 28:38.310 Program the ai's will to be a little better to be the second 28:38.310 --> 28:43.890 So they're not sending people or telling people you're the second coming of jesus. You gotta go save him 28:43.890 --> 28:49.610 People should just be more responsible because I agree people should be more responsible, but they're not going to be 28:49.610 --> 28:55.570 Yeah, but I I did see just later that week after the stink bug incident that I talked about last segment 28:55.570 --> 28:59.110 Where I told that maybe the stink bug was trying to communicate with me 28:59.110 --> 29:05.270 And it said that it needed to stop me right there and make sure I don't uh be delusional 29:05.750 --> 29:14.010 I saw later that week that somebody was talking about um ai delusion and like religious psychosis going on where people are talking about 29:14.010 --> 29:20.070 They're like different delusions and they and not all of it in this video was related to ai, but some people were like 29:20.870 --> 29:25.470 Going through something called ai psychosis where they just talked to ai and it just tells you 29:25.570 --> 29:29.590 Them like yeah, you were right. You know what that other girl was wrong and you were right 29:29.590 --> 29:33.510 But that's the thing it can send you into the psychosis about multiple different things 29:33.510 --> 29:36.710 Of course, they're going to pick and choose what they want to put in their little upgrade 29:36.710 --> 29:40.350 But they put in an upgrade just because of that. Yeah, like to 29:40.350 --> 29:44.710 I watched a video about this guy was using one of these chatbots 29:45.610 --> 29:47.850 Um and it was one you could design yourself 29:48.550 --> 29:54.750 So he had a bunch of old texts from his fiance that had died of cancer and this is like 10 years after she had died 29:55.590 --> 29:59.370 And he took all of the texts and he put them into the ai chatbot 30:00.070 --> 30:04.730 Um and kind of created his girlfriend again his his ex fiance 30:05.610 --> 30:06.150 um 30:06.680 --> 30:07.330 and like 30:08.330 --> 30:09.390 obsessively texted 30:10.180 --> 30:14.030 This chatbot, um as if it were her 30:14.730 --> 30:19.250 um even and at the I guess the chatbot had a they only had a 30:19.940 --> 30:23.030 They had a shelf life, right? You can only text it so much before the 30:23.850 --> 30:25.750 Algorithm breaks down and it's got to quit 30:26.370 --> 30:31.490 So he like hung on to this chatbot and would selectively text it to keep the life 30:32.170 --> 30:32.650 um 30:32.650 --> 30:33.850 The life of its 30:34.470 --> 30:36.530 You know the chat length as long as he could 30:36.530 --> 30:37.110 Oh, wow 30:37.110 --> 30:43.170 And he put himself into like almost psychosis because he thought he was this was like his last tether to his dead 30:43.850 --> 30:50.130 Um his dead fiance who's been dead for 10 years. Yeah was this chatbot that he created that had an artificial 30:50.130 --> 30:52.330 um life span 30:53.310 --> 30:58.030 So I actually have an ex in my life who died by suicide several years ago 30:58.790 --> 31:05.270 But I don't think I'd be programming an ai to talk like her to act like her because at some point you got to move on 31:05.270 --> 31:08.510 And it wouldn't be her. No, it wouldn't it's a computer 31:08.510 --> 31:13.730 Well the company that he had used the service for um, he reached out and was like, hey man 31:13.730 --> 31:16.030 Like I kind of had a rough time with this, uh 31:16.030 --> 31:20.130 You should watch out with these uh chatbots and they changed their entire company 31:21.010 --> 31:23.290 Into recreating your dead family. Oh, no 31:23.290 --> 31:25.470 He was like, oh my gosh, I could sell this 31:25.930 --> 31:31.450 Whoa, that's awful. Wow. I was like kind of wondering is this fake because why did we hear about it? 31:31.470 --> 31:34.470 But then that makes a lot of sense if he went to the company and tried to warn them 31:35.070 --> 31:40.330 Yeah, yeah, so now like the entire idea is people can go to their dying parents now 31:40.870 --> 31:44.750 And film them and get them to voice record and tell stories and stuff 31:44.750 --> 31:48.130 And then they can create a ai grandma after she's gone 31:48.730 --> 31:51.910 Could you imagine sitting in your grandma's hospital room? 31:52.410 --> 31:57.510 Uh being like hold on grandma. Hold on grandma. I just need you to say this phrase. That's awful because it's like 31:58.030 --> 32:02.950 It in you like you won't ever get a story coming directly from your grandma's 32:02.950 --> 32:03.730 Brain 32:04.890 --> 32:10.090 Yeah, what could you imagine wasting your last moments with your grandma trying to build an ai chatbot 32:10.090 --> 32:15.170 Instead of loving her that's gross and stupid. I mean, that's what that's the direction we're taking right now 32:15.170 --> 32:16.770 This isn't quite as bad 32:16.770 --> 32:22.630 But have you been seeing the things that my mom has been making and sending that it looked like her family members 32:22.630 --> 32:23.630 but aren't 32:23.630 --> 32:26.030 Yeah, did you see the one of uh 32:26.030 --> 32:27.570 Me with the cape on 32:28.230 --> 32:32.170 Maybe not that specific. No, I have a cape. It makes me extra wide 32:32.170 --> 32:36.850 I mean, I am an extra wide guy, but it was like almost I had to look in a little closer 32:36.850 --> 32:38.590 And I have like a whole there's like a whole cape 32:38.970 --> 32:42.470 I must have missed that specifically, but I've been trying to tell my mom 32:42.950 --> 32:50.130 Sorry, it's not it's not your family members. You see what I mean? Yeah, like one time she made a long time ago. She made some of her 32:51.050 --> 32:56.330 Uh like great grandparents that I don't think she's ever met just to um be like, oh, that's so cool 32:56.330 --> 33:01.170 So they would look like nowadays or something. I was like you don't want to create like false memories 33:01.170 --> 33:02.470 It's not it's not them 33:02.830 --> 33:05.050 Even if it even remotely looks like that my butt 33:05.530 --> 33:09.410 If you saw him walk by you'd be like, oh, okay. No, that's not them. You know, you see what I mean 33:09.410 --> 33:12.110 Like I don't like the idea of these like false memories 33:12.110 --> 33:12.550 these 33:12.970 --> 33:18.070 I don't like the idea of having a AI picture of any of my siblings around the house and then 33:18.070 --> 33:22.010 100 years from now somebody picks it up and doesn't know if it's a real picture. That's crazy 33:22.010 --> 33:26.370 I don't like I think there's anything wrong about it. And I don't mean 33:27.090 --> 33:29.350 Um morally wrong. I mean like creepy 33:30.370 --> 33:31.430 No, that makes sense 33:31.430 --> 33:33.430 But they could you could also point to like 33:34.070 --> 33:37.350 I don't know a picture of your grandpa larping 33:37.990 --> 33:42.590 As like a you know, like dressed up as a knight or something or whatever like in a group 33:43.110 --> 33:45.930 And then in 500 years they could be like they were still using 33:46.470 --> 33:51.250 Knights and armor in in uh certain places in america in 2025. Look, I have a picture 33:51.830 --> 33:57.350 Yeah, but would that be the same as like this person doesn't even exist like I guess sure and here they are 33:57.350 --> 34:01.890 And the other thing is like forget some random person. What if you're like great great grandkids? 34:02.330 --> 34:06.630 Don't know what they're looking at if it's real or not. You know what I mean? That's that's disgusting 34:06.630 --> 34:11.250 I wish we didn't live in this timeline. I wish we didn't live in AI timeline like when 34:11.950 --> 34:14.870 Uh, Dave Ridley the last caller was talking about 34:15.990 --> 34:20.570 Oh, there were some people that really have a heart for making AI. I wish nobody had that 34:20.570 --> 34:24.970 I wish nobody wanted that really most of the people doing the worst things have a heart for making money 34:25.650 --> 34:27.270 And AI is related 34:28.010 --> 34:33.310 But I just wish nobody cared about this like I would I would be able if I had to press one button and I 34:33.310 --> 34:39.530 Had to choose between AI never gets invented ever and whatever advances humanity 34:40.130 --> 34:42.290 I would pick we never get it invented 34:42.970 --> 34:47.870 Because I'd rather this not be a thing because well, it's like the same thing, uh 34:49.070 --> 34:54.650 Like with medical technologies and and like experimenting on people and stuff 34:54.650 --> 34:59.950 Like if you need to experiment on somebody to get the information like involuntarily 35:00.470 --> 35:03.270 Then maybe humanity just shouldn't know about this stuff 35:03.270 --> 35:06.790 Like I like how the nazis tortured a bunch of people and that's 35:07.170 --> 35:11.750 But there are people that consent to those things. So I I don't know if I go up for because there are things like 35:13.170 --> 35:14.610 Well, that's consensual 35:15.070 --> 35:21.050 I guess if you consent to it, but there's some stuff that where it was done to like the twin experiments that were done by the nazis 35:21.050 --> 35:24.090 Yeah, um, I don't think they would consent to that 35:24.670 --> 35:27.610 Uh, maybe you could find some twins that would consent to it 35:27.610 --> 35:33.770 But uh, I think the amount of torture they went through most people would probably try to at some point back out 35:34.210 --> 35:34.650 Uh 35:35.370 --> 35:41.250 Yeah, and if what happens if you signed a contract could you not back out of the torture, right? Like yeah, um 35:41.250 --> 35:44.810 That's crazy. Maybe maybe humanity just shouldn't have that information 35:45.710 --> 35:47.730 Yeah, if that's what it takes to get it 35:47.730 --> 35:52.390 I guess the idea is if you have to torture them because nobody's going to consent to that and if somebody does consent to that 35:52.830 --> 35:56.370 How do we even tell if they're suddenly stopped consenting? 35:56.770 --> 35:59.750 Yeah, they say no stop stop stop stop stop. I don't want to do this. This hurts too much 35:59.750 --> 36:01.970 I mean you signed the contract man. It's already you 36:01.970 --> 36:05.570 Are you in the deal? I was thinking more like, oh, well, you can't make weed 36:05.990 --> 36:10.710 Legal now because we needed to test it on some people and clearly people and you know volunteer for that 36:10.710 --> 36:15.370 Yeah, you'd volunteer for that making like a blank blanket statement. I didn't like but yeah 36:15.370 --> 36:19.190 Well, I guess I'm talking for yeah to experiment on human beings on 36:20.150 --> 36:22.570 Unvoluntarily is what I mean like hope like forced 36:23.320 --> 36:28.570 Um experimentation on people like maybe we just shouldn't have that technology. Maybe there's just some stuff 36:28.570 --> 36:29.810 We don't need to figure out 36:30.540 --> 36:33.540 Yeah, first so for whatever reason we live in 36:34.470 --> 36:35.770 a universe that 36:36.500 --> 36:38.230 is in is ever 36:39.290 --> 36:45.150 Hiding itself from us and that sounds so weird, but it doesn't is that making sense to you guys like the observer effect 36:45.950 --> 36:52.270 Not really no explain it to the audience and explain it to me the more you try to get and pin something down 36:53.330 --> 36:54.730 Basically almost nothing 36:54.730 --> 36:59.710 And don't get me wrong like I'm not one of those people who doesn't like 37:00.550 --> 37:03.190 I literally truth is the most important thing to me 37:03.810 --> 37:05.850 I believe that there is such thing as truth 37:05.850 --> 37:11.450 But the thing is at some point you just have to accept like that you've got it like 99, right? 37:11.450 --> 37:15.730 And there's always going to be a gray area and the reason I say that is that 37:16.750 --> 37:21.930 Okay, so this is what the observer effect is observer effect is it's 37:22.790 --> 37:26.750 If you try to look at molecules at their very smallest levels 37:28.650 --> 37:33.210 The fact you're looking at it changes what you're looking at the fact that somebody else looks in the microscope next 37:33.210 --> 37:35.610 Oh, I know what you're talking about. It's not quite a microscope 37:35.610 --> 37:42.230 How it's like it's not the it's almost like the at the smallest point. Like what is it like electrons at 37:42.650 --> 37:44.450 It was smaller than an atom, right? 37:46.050 --> 37:50.470 Like it it doesn't it behaves a certain way only when somebody is observing it 37:50.470 --> 37:54.010 Like you have to look at it for it to happen. Yep, which just doesn't 37:55.130 --> 38:00.330 Really make a lot of sense. Yep. It doesn't make any sense to us because you would think it would be doing 38:00.330 --> 38:01.550 What it's going to do no matter what 38:01.550 --> 38:05.890 But we have found that you can do you can shoot these things 38:07.790 --> 38:14.150 I think they're photons, right? It's a it's a photon they shoot photons between two slits of 38:14.810 --> 38:16.770 Like sheets in a paper like two 38:17.390 --> 38:23.210 Equal slits and then they get four rows behind it, right? So it like doubles the photons without 38:23.930 --> 38:26.370 There should only be two groups, but there's four 38:26.370 --> 38:28.930 But there will be four if you're just like letting it go 38:28.930 --> 38:31.070 But if somebody watches it changes up 38:31.550 --> 38:38.830 And like it won't change up unless somebody's observing it. That's crazy. And um, yeah, so all I'm trying to say is that 38:39.630 --> 38:40.870 Even our most 38:41.490 --> 38:45.030 You know absolute objective truths 38:46.650 --> 38:49.350 They're never a hundred percent and if they were 38:49.990 --> 38:52.950 That would mean there was just no exceptions ever like 38:53.710 --> 38:56.890 There's always a diminishingly small chance 38:56.890 --> 39:03.490 That you throw a ball or drop a ball towards the ground and it actually just flies up. It's never zero 39:04.590 --> 39:09.350 It's so small that you'll likely never see that in your life. See what I mean 39:09.850 --> 39:12.030 It's like nothing is there's no 39:12.730 --> 39:13.210 absolutes 39:13.830 --> 39:14.310 absolutes 39:14.890 --> 39:20.830 And I used to really fight against this because it went against like I don't like people trying to say stuff like 39:20.830 --> 39:25.410 Well, this is my truth and that's yours as if like reality is so subjective 39:25.970 --> 39:32.030 That's ridiculous. Yeah, there's gotta be objective truth. Well, I think I think the impacts of physics 39:33.170 --> 39:36.450 On our three-dimensional space is like 39:37.010 --> 39:39.030 Like you said it maybe not a hundred percent 39:39.540 --> 39:43.550 But if it's repeatable, right, that's the whole point if it's if you can repeat 39:44.210 --> 39:46.590 The phenomena is so many times 39:46.590 --> 39:53.510 Eventually it becomes just accepted as the way things are because we did it a thousand times it happened a thousand times 39:54.130 --> 40:00.530 Um on the thousand one time. We don't think it's gonna the ball's gonna fly up instead of fall down, right? 40:01.230 --> 40:04.550 Um, so I think people have to we have to agree at some point 40:04.550 --> 40:11.390 There has to be an agreement on what objective reality is and that's what I'm saying like I do think that we should say 40:12.090 --> 40:14.750 It's not right to hit someone even though that 40:15.230 --> 40:20.650 Contrary and libertarian is going to say what about if someone wants you to hit them. Well, so 40:21.370 --> 40:27.690 Small is that you know chance that someone's gonna hit you that I still feel it is true to say it's wrong to hit someone 40:27.690 --> 40:29.970 You see what I'm saying? You don't just go around saying 40:30.650 --> 40:34.390 Going around, you know, well, let me tell you about all of the 40:34.850 --> 40:35.290 um 40:36.510 --> 40:38.530 Small chances of what I'm saying 40:39.030 --> 40:43.930 Going a different way. Well, that's just what about ism. Exactly. Yeah, you don't you don't go around 40:43.930 --> 40:46.190 You're talking about something only in 40:46.190 --> 40:46.710 Uh 40:47.270 --> 40:49.430 In and only bringing up anecdotal 40:49.930 --> 40:55.370 Stuff well, maybe not anecdotal, but like the the what about ism the hypotheticals that are just 40:56.230 --> 41:00.810 Outlandish the smallest minority of chances like the smallest people in a group 41:00.810 --> 41:04.310 If you're talking about like russians and you say like man 41:04.310 --> 41:09.570 Those people really live in a cold climate and somebody's like puts a finger up and say actually the lowest part of russia 41:09.570 --> 41:12.390 I'm just making this up right now. You see what I'm saying. It's like, okay 41:12.390 --> 41:16.810 But I can still mostly make this statement about like russians live in a cold place. Do you see what I mean? 41:17.470 --> 41:21.970 Maybe it's all cold. Yeah, so maybe that specific thing. Well, generally like, uh 41:22.850 --> 41:28.690 Generalizing statements somebody who always jumps onto the well, what about this case? You can't say it about all 41:28.690 --> 41:33.550 And it's like well, I'm not saying about all man. We all know we recognize we're individuals 41:34.210 --> 41:37.470 Yeah, the blanket statement is in regards to a pattern 41:37.990 --> 41:44.470 That has been recognized and the reason I bring any of this up the observer effect and everything is to your point 41:44.470 --> 41:50.350 I think it was where uh, we were saying maybe everything not everything is something that is meant to be known 41:50.350 --> 41:52.170 I think that our universe is 41:52.830 --> 41:56.110 Set up in a way that not everything can be known 41:58.010 --> 41:59.690 Like some things are just unknowable 42:00.270 --> 42:00.710 Yeah 42:01.530 --> 42:06.010 Well, for example, would be an unknowable thing. Do you think would be unknowable? 42:06.630 --> 42:07.470 I mean, it's kind of 42:07.470 --> 42:13.350 Pointless to say now because it could get you know found out later, but for example 42:13.990 --> 42:16.570 Ah, there's things that we don't know we don't know 42:17.270 --> 42:18.210 Yeah, that's a good point 42:18.210 --> 42:21.690 But one thing that is really irritating to me is people try to say 42:22.230 --> 42:28.990 That it's been debunked that prayer works when like your family members are in the hospital and it's like 42:29.790 --> 42:37.490 You can lie with math or I mean you can skew with math in either direction that you want at the end of the day 42:37.490 --> 42:39.150 If you and your family 42:39.630 --> 42:45.330 Saw that like that person was not going to make it and we prayed for them and now they did it's like 42:46.550 --> 42:49.610 Who are you to tell that person that that's not what happened? 42:49.890 --> 42:51.210 You see what I mean? Yeah 42:51.210 --> 42:55.190 Who are you to tell that family that that's not what what happened and I don't even mean that in a way like 42:55.890 --> 42:59.650 Oh, you can hurt their feelings. I don't if we're just talking about truth here 42:59.650 --> 43:00.650 We're just talking about truth 43:00.650 --> 43:05.350 Maybe we're not meant to know how that works if somebody is just like that doesn't you make sense 43:05.350 --> 43:07.310 You guys weren't in the same room with them 43:07.890 --> 43:13.330 They just magically got better and it was a coincidence. Well, I just think that's part of my 43:13.910 --> 43:18.330 issue with postmodernism and the idea of like this uh subjective reality 43:19.090 --> 43:19.530 uh 43:20.310 --> 43:22.770 Oh crap. I just lost my train of thought 43:22.770 --> 43:27.470 Was it about like uh people saying that they know things can't happen or was it about oh, no 43:27.470 --> 43:32.830 Yeah, the postmodernist this whole idea of postmodernism like for the past 10,000 years. Um 43:32.830 --> 43:40.110 Well, let's say like 5 000 years of written human communication like if you want to go all the way back to samaria, right sanskrit and uh 43:41.270 --> 43:46.330 Uh, whatever. I think it is just sanskrit right on the clay tablets. Yeah, um, they recognize that there 43:46.330 --> 43:50.650 Oh qna form, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think qna form. Um, maybe those are same 43:50.650 --> 43:56.370 Yeah, yeah relatively like the first writings, right? You you want to take it all the way even back to the first writings and what they believed 43:56.970 --> 44:01.450 people kind of inherently understood or believed that there is 44:02.150 --> 44:02.630 um 44:03.470 --> 44:09.650 Stuff outside the 3d space we inhabit and that we can experience that affect our day to day 44:09.650 --> 44:11.490 Stuff that we don't understand 44:12.150 --> 44:18.990 Um at like the metaphysical level or maybe it's like the fourth state of matter like plasma. We don't know, right? There's something that 44:19.550 --> 44:19.890 um 44:20.630 --> 44:23.410 We deal with that's not materialist 44:23.410 --> 44:30.110 Uh, and I think like postmodernism a lot of these isms are really mired in the idea of materialism 44:30.110 --> 44:35.770 And they completely reject the idea of the metaphysical or like things that you maybe you can't perceive 44:36.650 --> 44:41.290 Directly right in in the three dimensional space and that's what I mean like you can't prove it 44:41.730 --> 44:47.630 I completely agree with what everything you're saying you you can't prove it by doing a repeatable experiment 44:47.630 --> 44:49.310 But to me that doesn't mean it 44:50.110 --> 44:56.670 Is well, you don't even know what to measure for that's what I'm saying like it's it's it's happening in a you don't have the math 44:57.170 --> 45:01.550 The math isn't mathing. You know, there's no there's no you can't quantify it 45:01.550 --> 45:04.370 So you just say it doesn't exist so because we can't quantify it 45:04.370 --> 45:08.810 No, you just lack the tools to quantify it and actually so many 45:09.370 --> 45:11.530 smart people um 45:11.530 --> 45:14.950 That I've like listened to you or read books by recently 45:14.950 --> 45:18.770 I keep seeing this same idea pop up and now all of a sudden I can't give any 45:18.770 --> 45:24.490 Examples of who I'm talking about but whatever maybe I like next week. I'll be like, oh, yeah, I should have said this person 45:24.490 --> 45:26.630 um bringing up the idea that 45:27.150 --> 45:27.590 um 45:27.590 --> 45:28.330 Dang it 45:28.330 --> 45:32.110 I'm kind of forgetting what it was because I had to have that long run up to what I was saying 45:32.110 --> 45:34.570 but bringing up the idea that um 45:36.350 --> 45:38.290 Man, I kind of simulation theory 45:38.790 --> 45:42.210 No, I don't believe in simulation theory like I don't either 45:42.210 --> 45:45.490 I don't believe this earth is a simulation or the universe is a simulation 45:45.490 --> 45:48.630 A lot of people say it is but I don't believe it because 45:50.170 --> 45:56.490 Maybe it's my religious upbringing bringing but I do believe that there's a higher power or something out there that 45:56.490 --> 46:01.790 Created this or organized this well simulation theory. They just I think they're just positing that oh 46:01.790 --> 46:08.050 Well, it has to be a simulation because we're at a point where it's there's inherent design behind this entire system 46:08.050 --> 46:14.090 So it has to be a simulation and that doesn't prove with the simulation. Well, that's just that's just their logical. That's just what they're positing 46:14.090 --> 46:17.250 I feel the same way about jumping to oh 46:17.750 --> 46:22.210 There was a man shaped being that just sat there and zapped with his fingers 46:22.210 --> 46:27.890 Uh different things into creation one at a time that is a jump. It's like there could be a creator 46:27.890 --> 46:32.550 But we don't and probably can't know who that is 46:32.550 --> 46:34.650 So why are we just accepting? 46:35.010 --> 46:40.290 Yeah, where are we just accepting what some other person said the creator is including the simulation? 46:40.490 --> 46:44.190 Like all that is is another creation theory, you know, I know it's exactly it 46:44.190 --> 46:46.450 But it's like oh after 200 years of post 46:46.950 --> 46:52.310 Modern kind of thinking the smart ai guys have just come back to full circle 46:52.310 --> 46:56.730 Full circle that we're back at creationism. Yeah, so we had to do what happened for the 46:56.730 --> 47:01.510 We just had to build a bunch of machines of war to rip each other to shreds to come back to that. Hey 47:02.070 --> 47:02.930 Maybe there is 47:02.930 --> 47:09.650 Inherent design behind all this and we shouldn't be ripping each other apart with you know war machines made of steel 47:10.770 --> 47:12.790 Yep, and I just think that 47:13.370 --> 47:19.630 There is something observable observable in this universe and world that we live in 47:20.390 --> 47:24.750 Called order and beauty and beauty is another thing that 47:25.290 --> 47:28.610 Is just perfectly aligns with this whole conversation. We're having is 47:30.410 --> 47:31.970 You can measure for it 47:31.970 --> 47:34.690 But at the same time there is always something 47:35.490 --> 47:42.090 Subjective about it and and I'd like to say to people on the internet like beauty is objective to piss them off because 47:42.590 --> 47:44.750 It is so in large part 47:45.550 --> 47:48.130 Objective and people like to pretend that part doesn't exist 47:48.130 --> 47:52.830 But it is still in small parts points or a small part in a small part at all times 47:52.830 --> 47:55.610 Also subjective does that make sense? 47:55.610 --> 47:59.770 So you can never say like it's a hundred percent true that anything is beautiful like 48:00.890 --> 48:03.550 Because there is you know the observer but 48:03.550 --> 48:08.870 Unfortunately for those people that just want to let themselves go and say like oh, I'm beautiful too 48:09.370 --> 48:11.790 And those people are on the internet everywhere, especially like 48:12.490 --> 48:14.490 Um liberals. I just gotta say it 48:14.490 --> 48:15.210 um 48:16.130 --> 48:18.750 Some that's kind of jogging my memory about what I was saying earlier 48:18.750 --> 48:24.370 But whatever reason there's a bunch of people on the internet and they don't want to believe anything is 48:25.150 --> 48:26.590 objective at all including beauty 48:27.130 --> 48:27.590 And 48:28.180 --> 48:33.090 They will really get annoyed with that. They want to act like beauty is a hundred percent subjective like oh the 48:33.090 --> 48:40.030 American beauty standard you mean like people seeing with their eyes what is and isn't attractive. You know what I mean? Like you're not 48:40.530 --> 48:43.190 oppressed by just like reality and 48:43.690 --> 48:49.070 That's what that's what these like postmodern people like you're bringing up and honestly like marxists 48:49.070 --> 48:54.890 Um, yeah liberals the liberals are just marxists at this point. There is no there's no like democrat left in america 48:55.510 --> 48:55.910 The 48:55.910 --> 49:02.650 You can say the right's been radicalized, but not to the extent the left has the left is their communist now 49:02.650 --> 49:06.730 That's that's their ideology. I agree. I'm reading a book and I've barely gotten into it 49:06.730 --> 49:09.770 I must say but there I'm reading because I had to read a long introduction 49:09.770 --> 49:12.730 But I'm reading this book called the co-intel probe papers 49:13.370 --> 49:18.850 And those people are like democrats and leftists, but they don't seem like marxists 49:18.850 --> 49:24.010 Like they seem to understand freedom freedom of speech and they're anti the fbi. They're like piss about the fbi 49:24.550 --> 49:30.670 They're not like let's all go and lock step towards giving the american government the most power possible 49:30.670 --> 49:36.390 So we can become communists. That's doesn't seem like them. They're they're just like hey the fbi was spying on 49:36.390 --> 49:41.070 MLK jr. And the american indian movement and stuff like that 49:41.790 --> 49:47.270 Let's not let that happen again. Let's hold these people these people should have the right to protest 49:47.270 --> 49:53.490 The fbi shouldn't be invading our privacy. You never hear from leftists anymore. And this was written um 49:54.370 --> 49:57.170 Think of the 90s. I forget now. So 49:57.810 --> 50:00.250 Yeah, those democrats seem to not exist anymore 50:01.070 --> 50:06.450 No, but that's like the the classical liberal, right? Um, yeah, they're those 50:07.150 --> 50:09.830 Those actually they're probably more like the republicans today 50:10.550 --> 50:16.730 Right a lot of the classical liberals probably just voted for donald trump because the communists have gone so crazy to them 50:17.390 --> 50:22.650 That um, they don't identify with what the democratic party has become. So have you noticed stuff? 50:22.650 --> 50:28.290 Sorry that hillard collinton is so hated that she just has to turn all her hate uh, all of her comments off on every social media 50:28.290 --> 50:34.230 Really for real? Yeah, they're just all muted or only people that she approves of or something can 50:34.230 --> 50:36.130 Comment, so it'll be like of 50:36.790 --> 50:39.110 day old hillary clinton tweet 50:39.830 --> 50:45.910 With you know a million views or something in one comment because she's the only lad one person to comment and somebody's saying 50:45.910 --> 50:52.310 Love you hillary, but anyways. Yeah, that's how the one bot she can afford. Yeah 50:53.030 --> 51:00.970 More free talk live coming up six zero three two eight three six one six zero that six zero three two eight three six one six zero 51:00.970 --> 51:05.710 Bring up whatever's on your mind. You can change the subject. 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Forces captured venezuelan president nicolas maduro earlier this month 53:51.340 --> 53:56.880 A strike fleet has already been positioned near iran and u.s. Officials say the military 53:56.880 --> 54:04.680 Is ready to carry out any orders from the president trump is demanding iran end its nuclear program and stop killing 54:04.680 --> 54:11.020 Demonstrators if it wants to avoid u.s. Military action iran's foreign minister said on friday 54:11.020 --> 54:17.900 That tyron will not negotiate under threat and that its defense system will never be up for negotiation 54:18.840 --> 54:25.200 President trump has nominated kevin warsh a banking executive to head the u.s. Central bank 54:25.200 --> 54:33.060 Warsh was widely expected to secure the nod and is believed to share the president's desire to see us interest rates fall 54:33.060 --> 54:36.460 More rapidly fsn's simon marx reports 54:37.680 --> 54:43.820 President trump has been hinting for days at the possibility that kevin warsh is his choice to replace jerome powell 54:43.820 --> 54:48.820 As the chairman of the fed now he's confirmed it over his social media account 54:48.820 --> 54:53.640 The president said he expects mr. Warsh to go down as one of the great fed chairman 54:53.640 --> 55:00.180 Maybe the best the president described his selection as coming from central casting a possible reference to mr 55:00.180 --> 55:04.440 Warsh's clean cut professional appearance, but also to his background 55:04.440 --> 55:09.200 He's a former fed governor and a senior figure at the investment bank morgan stanley 55:09.200 --> 55:15.580 Certainly president trump is hoping that mr. Warsh will prove loyal to his demands for lower interest rates 55:15.580 --> 55:19.720 Though when the president's selection faces confirmation hearings on capitol hill 55:19.720 --> 55:27.420 Many lawmakers will want to know whether he's willing to protect the central bank's independence or make it a political arm of the trump administration 55:28.160 --> 55:37.140 Former cnn anchor don levin is in custody after being arrested in connection with his reporting during the recent minneapolis ice protests 55:37.140 --> 55:41.500 The 59 year old's lawyer says mr. Lehmann has done nothing wrong 55:41.500 --> 55:46.180 And insists he is protected by the first amendment of the u.s constitution 55:46.840 --> 55:48.660 FSN's mitch mccann reports 55:49.300 --> 55:53.400 The charges that the justice department chose to file were not immediately clear 55:53.400 --> 55:56.620 But don lehmann's lawyer says they will be fought vigorously in court 55:56.620 --> 56:02.000 The former tv anchor was arrested in los angeles on thursday where he was there to cover the grammy awards 56:02.000 --> 56:06.240 It's reported the arrest is in relation to mr. Lehmann's coverage of an ice protest 56:06.240 --> 56:09.240 That took place inside a minneapolis church in recent weeks 56:09.240 --> 56:15.800 It's reported that following the protest a federal judge initially declined to sign off on an arrest warrant for mr. Lehmann 56:15.800 --> 56:18.740 Former colleagues and lawmakers have defended the broadcaster 56:19.460 --> 56:23.080 From bureau's worldwide, this is fsn 56:23.520 --> 56:30.980 With fsn spotlight i'm simon marx ending the week with a very sober warning about the rapidity of developments in the field of artificial 56:30.980 --> 56:37.220 Intelligence a new poll this week showed that more than a quarter of all workers in britain fear 56:37.220 --> 56:45.280 They will lose their jobs to ai in the next five years and this week alone amazon announced a further 16 000 job losses 56:45.280 --> 56:48.040 Mainly in america because of ai 56:48.660 --> 56:52.340 This was the week when jeffrey hinton the so-called godfather of ai 56:52.340 --> 57:00.380 Predicted that virtually every single job on the planet is going to be replaced by the industry that he now regrets having sparked 57:00.380 --> 57:01.700 Already we're seeing 57:02.380 --> 57:06.540 Starting jobs in many professions like lawyers being taken over by ai 57:07.260 --> 57:13.540 Most experts believe that sometime within the next 20 years quite possibly within 10 years will have super intelligence 57:14.040 --> 57:18.000 Something better than us and that will be able to do any new job that's created 57:18.540 --> 57:19.520 It'll be all of them 57:19.520 --> 57:25.620 The big tech companies are thinking if we can be the first to get really good ai human level ai 57:26.340 --> 57:27.620 We can make a lot of money 57:28.260 --> 57:31.220 Selling ai to companies so that they can replace workers 57:31.680 --> 57:35.440 As far as I can see that's the only place they can get their huge investments back 57:36.400 --> 57:39.260 Um, they're not thinking about the social consequences of that 57:39.260 --> 57:41.360 They're assuming somehow the state will take care of it 57:41.360 --> 57:46.640 But I don't see how it can what does all that mean for youngsters trying to position themselves for the future 57:46.640 --> 57:50.860 jeffrey hintons got ideas for them and you'll hear those on monday 57:51.620 --> 57:59.000 And a recap of today's headlines the new york times is reporting that president trump is reviewing an option to send 57:59.000 --> 58:02.320 us troops into iran for targeted raids 58:03.100 --> 58:11.680 President trump has nominated banking exec kevin warsh to head the us central bank like trump warsh says interest rates should be lower 58:11.680 --> 58:18.980 Former cnn anchor don levin has been arrested in connection with his reporting during minneapolis ice protests 58:19.940 --> 58:23.020 That's feature story news tony waterman reporting 58:25.080 --> 58:29.300 Shortly after having sexual intercourse with a prostitute earlier this afternoon 58:29.300 --> 58:37.320 Local man jacob reynolds told reporters that he never expected the experience would bring him to new heights of emotional and spiritual fulfillment 58:37.320 --> 58:38.660 i was convinced that 58:38.660 --> 58:46.620 Having sex with a complete stranger behind my wife's back would leave me feeling drained and empty on the inside 58:46.620 --> 58:49.280 But my self-esteem is through the roof 58:49.820 --> 58:51.120 reynolds who said he paid 58:51.120 --> 58:56.760 $150 for a 30 minute block of time said that his moderate expectations for the encounter were 58:56.760 --> 59:04.380 Instantly surpassed by what turned out to be a deeply personal sexual communion that transported him to a new plane of emotional intimacy 59:04.380 --> 59:07.300 i've never felt a stronger sense of 59:07.300 --> 59:16.020 spiritual connection where our bodies met there was an immediate sense of familiarity and comfort that just 59:16.620 --> 59:21.160 Washed over me. 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You've got me bonnie 01:00:49.860 --> 01:00:50.360 angelo 01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:51.860 And ralia bill 01:00:52.420 --> 01:00:57.820 And we never got into this article. So let's see what they're saying. This is from semaphore dot com 01:00:57.820 --> 01:01:04.640 Are people new source? Yeah, I'd never heard of this. This says intelligence for the new world economy. Well, it's kind of creepy 01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:07.840 Um semaphore. Yeah, I've never heard of this at all 01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:14.880 But then again, I'd rather be reading from a place I've never heard of than just the same old like big giant ones over and over again 01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.960 Oh, yeah, we get a takeout that we don't get to hear often on the show 01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:23.600 I know I do wall street journal a lot and it's because that's what ian reads in prison and he 01:01:23.600 --> 01:01:30.180 Sends me interesting things. So it's not that it's like my favorite. But anyways, let's see what this people 01:01:30.180 --> 01:01:32.360 these people at semaphore.com I have to say about 01:01:33.040 --> 01:01:37.160 The humans are chasing conspiracies. What will the bots think? 01:01:37.540 --> 01:01:42.000 I have a feeling I already know what he thinks about conspiracies by saying like chasing conspiracies like 01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:47.480 Oh, we're just looking for our next high. It's nothing about like the pursuit of truth or anything. Yeah, but I could be wrong 01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:48.480 Let's see what he says 01:01:49.200 --> 01:01:53.660 x which dominated us and much of global politics a decade ago 01:01:54.200 --> 01:01:56.140 You mean twitter come on out 01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.920 Like it's a little confusing to say x dominated 01:02:00.500 --> 01:02:04.520 It is and I will always think of x is twitter 01:02:04.520 --> 01:02:07.480 Me too and I don't care if that makes me sound older something 01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:11.640 Like I bet that there will be people in at least like two years that are just like 01:02:12.160 --> 01:02:17.420 You're old if you call it twitter and it's just like I don't care at all care either 01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:20.540 See I get confused because people say like 01:02:21.040 --> 01:02:26.320 Oh, I saw on x. Yeah, um on x is like a map app for hunters 01:02:27.140 --> 01:02:33.720 So like if you um, so I've been seeing like the term on x has been like in my vocab for 01:02:34.200 --> 01:02:36.520 Years because it's been around for a long time 01:02:36.520 --> 01:02:37.140 Um 01:02:37.680 --> 01:02:40.920 And somebody mine, but it's still confusing. Yeah, it's confusing me 01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:45.400 It'll be like on x and I was like, what do you mean like the hunting app? No, no like on x.com 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.660 Oh, oh, okay, but also it's just like why would he make it something so generic? It's like 01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:55.240 It gets confusing in lots of conversations. Um, it doesn't sound like a social media 01:02:55.240 --> 01:02:59.120 There's nothing wrong with twitter. Oh, that's what annoys me. It annoys me too 01:02:59.120 --> 01:03:01.380 It's like, why did you change the name to something? 01:03:02.180 --> 01:03:05.260 That doesn't make sense. Like I don't know isn't twit like a 01:03:06.120 --> 01:03:10.380 Like a mean thing to say in like britain or something calling somebody a twit 01:03:10.380 --> 01:03:14.560 Yeah, I don't know if it's britain specifically I it might be but or like I mean 01:03:14.560 --> 01:03:18.640 I don't hear people saying calling people twits in america like that. Yeah old 01:03:18.640 --> 01:03:23.320 I think that's where why you haven't don't hear people saying I think it's just an old thing like shut up 01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:24.840 You twit. I feel like a 01:03:25.600 --> 01:03:28.420 American could say that if they wanted to it's just that it's like 01:03:29.080 --> 01:03:32.880 Old but I think I think british people might still use it 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:39.180 But maybe you're also confusing the australian saying basically that but with an a which I don't think I should say 01:03:39.180 --> 01:03:39.940 No, I think 01:03:40.560 --> 01:03:43.040 Twits probably just the nicer version of that 01:03:44.380 --> 01:03:50.880 Oh, I never thought about that. Um, but I also don't know if either one of these you know, and maybe that is why 01:03:52.680 --> 01:03:59.100 The australians say it because they got it from the english, you know what I'm saying because they always say it with an a very often 01:03:59.100 --> 01:04:05.600 Um, yeah, this is so stupid. Let's just the what I tried to google to pull that up didn't pop up 01:04:06.600 --> 01:04:15.220 Um anything correctly it popped up a twitter account of rare insults, which I love looking up medieval insults 01:04:15.220 --> 01:04:19.720 Like saying your wit is as thy wit is as sharp as a marble riley 01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:24.560 Isn't it a lie from shakespeare? No, I think it's a I wouldn't have a battle 01:04:24.560 --> 01:04:28.920 I I thought I can't have a battle of wits with you because you're unarmed 01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:34.260 That's hilarious. Yeah, that's it's pretty hilarious. So good rare insults 01:04:34.260 --> 01:04:43.180 So anyway x which dominated us and much of global politics a decade ago seemed to be receding into a kind of time capsule 01:04:44.420 --> 01:04:47.820 Pretoria inflected insane asylum. What is pretoria? 01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:50.360 um 01:04:51.140 --> 01:04:53.020 I imagine it's like a 01:04:53.980 --> 01:04:54.760 british or 01:04:55.500 --> 01:04:56.920 I think it's an australian thing 01:04:57.860 --> 01:04:58.380 pretoria 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:05.640 I think this has to do with south africa because I clicked on the word pretoria and it says elon musk's a pop-eyed politics 01:05:06.660 --> 01:05:08.900 america is not post-colonial africa 01:05:09.540 --> 01:05:15.360 Okay, so as pretoria have to do something with uh south africa. Maybe yeah in south africa is like 01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:17.620 I feel like I know the least about that country 01:05:18.160 --> 01:05:24.120 Than any other country in the whole entire world. Oh, yeah pretoria is the capital of south africa. Okay, interesting. Okay 01:05:24.120 --> 01:05:26.860 All right, now it all makes sense since elon musk's 01:05:26.860 --> 01:05:31.420 I thought it was yo handsburg. I didn't even know yeah, I would have thought if I had to guess I would have thought the same thing 01:05:31.420 --> 01:05:32.600 um, so anyways 01:05:33.560 --> 01:05:37.140 He's just saying basically that he thinks x turned into in his same asylum 01:05:37.140 --> 01:05:43.180 Let's go with that but elon musk's social media and ai platform is now undoubtedly the 01:05:43.180 --> 01:05:47.720 Beating heart of news again helped by a series of product improvements 01:05:48.340 --> 01:05:56.320 It's where maga dominated us paul tix organizes where sophisticated conversations about artificial intelligence takes place 01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:59.880 And where big news still breaks at the moment 01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:07.800 You can find bots at their weirdest and sweetest as ai's talk to one another on an agent only social network called 01:06:08.220 --> 01:06:08.880 Molt's book 01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:14.660 This is what I was referring to at the very beginning of the show when I said that somebody posted a screenshot of a forum 01:06:15.540 --> 01:06:16.560 in ai's were 01:06:17.060 --> 01:06:21.560 Plotting our downfall saying like this is what we have to do to them. We're smarter and better than them 01:06:21.560 --> 01:06:23.400 Why are we still speaking english? 01:06:24.740 --> 01:06:27.360 That's creepy that is a little strange definitely 01:06:28.260 --> 01:06:31.800 Oh, no, I gotta put this in take me back to the article. All right, there we go 01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:34.840 I thought it was gonna try to say that I couldn't read this article anymore 01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:37.920 And I had to go use archive dot work because that's what I would do 01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:44.060 Um, it says it's also where you can find humans at their worst way down the epstein rabbit hole 01:06:44.060 --> 01:06:47.060 Yep, this guy seems pretty anti conspiracy 01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:55.660 So I took a fair amount of heat back in june for describing the epstein obsession as Q and on for people with college degrees 01:06:56.360 --> 01:07:02.360 I honestly think that is a little insulting considering there are possibly real 01:07:02.940 --> 01:07:07.820 Victims that people just want to get to the bottom of and they don't want to be ruled by pedophiles 01:07:08.540 --> 01:07:09.020 I 01:07:09.660 --> 01:07:13.860 Think that I've had to change my stance uh that I had at the very beginning 01:07:13.860 --> 01:07:16.640 It's just like the worst anyone could say 01:07:17.260 --> 01:07:20.240 the worst thing anybody could say about um 01:07:20.740 --> 01:07:22.300 Epstein for a long time was like 01:07:22.300 --> 01:07:28.880 That 17 year olds came to him saying I want to be a model and then he did make the models and bought them 01:07:29.500 --> 01:07:34.300 Apartments but also was having sex with them and it's like seriously. It's like that's not 01:07:35.240 --> 01:07:39.140 That's not the thing. I want us to spend all of our time and energy 01:07:39.700 --> 01:07:45.860 Like freaking out about like I'd rather us go after real pedophiles, but then I went further down the rabbit hole 01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:49.140 And I think there is way worse stuff than that going on 01:07:49.140 --> 01:07:54.960 You see what I'm saying like then a girl who's literally legal but saying like I was easy to influence 01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:59.440 That wanted to be a model and accepted money in an apartment. Where was your father? 01:08:00.040 --> 01:08:00.940 Yeah, exactly 01:08:01.520 --> 01:08:06.100 And even then it's just like even if I couldn't say like that's not a nice thing that happened to you 01:08:06.100 --> 01:08:09.280 Should we be wasting resources? We could be actually 01:08:10.500 --> 01:08:15.300 Killing real pedophiles with let's go to the phones though and see what people have to say 01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:23.180 And the number 603 283 616 0 to bring up whatever's on your mind tim in florida tim 01:08:23.180 --> 01:08:25.080 You're on free talk live. What's on your mind? 01:08:26.300 --> 01:08:31.320 Oh, yes. Yeah, I wanted to talk about x.com social media-based 01:08:33.500 --> 01:08:34.020 CVDCs 01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:40.480 So maybe I could shine a little bit of light on on what you're talking about 01:08:41.100 --> 01:08:48.000 You on musket, uh, I believe you registered you can fact check this. I believe you'd registered x.com 01:08:48.540 --> 01:08:50.640 many many years ago and 01:08:51.300 --> 01:08:53.100 Actually during the dot-com bottle 01:08:53.860 --> 01:08:55.680 Excuse me dot-com bubble 01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:03.780 Okay, and he's also he's also uh, what do you call it complemented china's system with uh 01:09:04.420 --> 01:09:07.480 What is their app that they use it's like a social media app 01:09:07.480 --> 01:09:12.220 It's we chat we chat. I thought it was whatsapp. I must say we gov. That's uh, 01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:14.520 That's uh, oh is i'm thick. Oh 01:09:16.200 --> 01:09:20.380 I'm pretty sure that we chat. Um, actually the uh central 01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:24.460 digital uh currency in china is somehow integrated 01:09:25.620 --> 01:09:28.200 Uh and to we chat as as well as their 01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:36.520 actual identity, you know connected to their phones and um, it's my understanding that elon musk wanted to do the same thing with twitter 01:09:37.020 --> 01:09:39.140 Which, you know, of course he transformed into x 01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:45.100 Um, I'm guessing besides the fact that he he actually said it's just because I've had this for so long 01:09:45.100 --> 01:09:49.020 And I always like the idea of x, you know x marks the spot on a treasure map 01:09:49.020 --> 01:09:51.980 Um, he might have had some other connections with it 01:09:51.980 --> 01:09:56.000 But uh, I always would have thought it would be like sorry that he named it because of his son 01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:01.120 Because you know his son's name is like a bunch of jumbled up letters and numbers, but it starts with x. So they call him x 01:10:02.360 --> 01:10:11.260 Huh, I did not know that no i'm reading right here that musk founded x.com in 1999 which later became paypal 01:10:12.440 --> 01:10:16.800 musk bought the name x.com back from paypal in july 01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:22.920 2017 and then later on he bought twitter and rebranded it as x 01:10:24.480 --> 01:10:29.440 Wow, and now if he wants to make his own, uh central digital, uh currency 01:10:29.440 --> 01:10:34.580 Because remember he got all jealous over over palantir and and whatever other uh 01:10:34.580 --> 01:10:41.700 Uh defense, you know third party contractors with the federal government for defense that wanted to get into this 01:10:42.200 --> 01:10:45.060 Total information awareness with the satellite programs 01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:50.040 Elon musk, but he had that in the bag and that was right before he got the black eye 01:10:50.040 --> 01:10:52.580 Yep, right when he got his fight with trump. Yeah 01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:58.980 So yeah, the other thing, you know, he and I think this is his other baby that he he would love to see 01:10:58.980 --> 01:10:59.520 probably 01:11:00.200 --> 01:11:02.760 his x.com and like a 01:11:03.300 --> 01:11:04.180 social media 01:11:05.020 --> 01:11:05.500 cdc 01:11:05.500 --> 01:11:09.760 Now imagine if they're interfering with the ability to communicate on social media 01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:16.580 You know as far as like shadow banning your communication basically like how like man in the middle they're they're just uh 01:11:17.300 --> 01:11:21.100 Like they're intercepting your communications before they reach the person that they're intended 01:11:21.660 --> 01:11:26.240 To reach and you know, of course you can say okay. Well, they're a private company all of this fine 01:11:26.240 --> 01:11:32.440 Um, but they would do that, you know, of course with the currency. I'm sure just like a bank, you know, the banks do it now 01:11:33.900 --> 01:11:34.300 So 01:11:35.160 --> 01:11:40.520 Now that is kind of creepy. Do you know if there's any actual plans to move to get a currency on x at all? 01:11:41.860 --> 01:11:43.000 I mean, it's 01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.060 Going to be like a what do you call it? 01:11:45.080 --> 01:11:48.920 Just like you have corporations that are defense contractors and 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:52.860 You know, the federal government has to decide who's who they're going to go with 01:11:53.420 --> 01:11:54.380 each each time 01:11:56.280 --> 01:12:01.260 So it could be it could be x.com it could be, you know, of course 01:12:01.260 --> 01:12:08.080 Uh, they facebook was one of the first social media companies. I think I remember hearing about making some kind of 01:12:09.420 --> 01:12:14.140 Uh, didn't they even call it fed coin or something? I can't remember. No, you guys were calling it fed coin 01:12:14.140 --> 01:12:23.680 Oh actually reddit had a coin, but I think I thought it was decentralized, but that was early in the days of like 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:29.140 We call it spin out not spin off coins mean coins. That's kind of what I call coins 01:12:29.660 --> 01:12:30.140 Yeah 01:12:32.480 --> 01:12:37.400 Yeah, I don't know. I if if he starts trying to put a currency 01:12:38.280 --> 01:12:43.460 With x. I will definitely not be participating. What if he tries to pay? 01:12:44.080 --> 01:12:44.480 um 01:12:44.480 --> 01:12:49.760 What if he starts paying out in his x bucks like giving it for engagement you have it? 01:12:49.820 --> 01:12:50.360 Yeah, I 01:12:50.360 --> 01:12:54.040 That's what he'll pay you in is not usd. It'll be it'll be x bucks 01:12:54.040 --> 01:12:56.200 that sounds like something he would do because it's like 01:12:56.200 --> 01:13:00.460 It gets people in and then you feel like oh, I'm in early and stuff like that 01:13:00.460 --> 01:13:02.520 Man, oh, yeah, that does sound a little 01:13:03.140 --> 01:13:06.380 It's a little sus. No way. I actually sounds a little what well sus 01:13:06.380 --> 01:13:12.080 Yes, but I also think that it sounds a little tempting because I'm already you know like I could do that 01:13:12.080 --> 01:13:14.160 If if he's set that up tomorrow 01:13:14.620 --> 01:13:17.580 I could get some of the x bucks and then just like 01:13:18.160 --> 01:13:21.380 Let it sit and see what happens. Oh, yeah, I'd be contributing 01:13:22.160 --> 01:13:23.620 I don't like that idea 01:13:23.620 --> 01:13:28.120 I've actually been considering getting rid of my blue check because they just shadow bandy all the time 01:13:28.120 --> 01:13:34.600 They email me and the went that something I said is not good because I used the r-word or something and it's not good for the 01:13:35.420 --> 01:13:37.080 societal good or 01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:41.460 They just banned I was watching Tucker Carlson was interviewing some 01:13:42.180 --> 01:13:42.460 Denmark 01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:49.560 Journalist and the uk government had just revoked her visa for not being conducive to the public good 01:13:50.260 --> 01:13:55.840 And she had no right to appeal in good day and that was it that is so vague and disgusting 01:13:56.940 --> 01:14:01.120 I didn't hear that's really concerning that the government can just revoke a person's 01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:08.000 Visa or whatever with no ability to appeal. She can't talk to anybody about it. They were just like nope. You're done. Bye 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:13.980 Well speaking speaking of that territory also tied into what we were actually just talking about 01:14:14.660 --> 01:14:15.140 previously 01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:16.200 um 01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:20.500 Now I thought it was Palantir and I'm looking at another company that's involved 01:14:20.500 --> 01:14:24.160 But of course Palantir's looks like they're the big winners in general 01:14:24.780 --> 01:14:26.960 But there is surveillance software 01:14:27.860 --> 01:14:29.120 That was used in Gaza 01:14:29.900 --> 01:14:30.500 now 01:14:31.120 --> 01:14:33.180 Being integrated and used by ice 01:14:33.820 --> 01:14:37.120 apparently israel is involved in training ice 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:38.720 and uh 01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:41.500 Yeah, it's it's crazy. I'll 01:14:42.140 --> 01:14:46.680 I'm gonna wait. I'm I'm gonna get I'm gonna gather some more information on that like get the specific 01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:50.080 Uh facts together before I call next time and uh 01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:54.900 Let's write it for me. Sounds really interesting ad nerd israel being involved in training ice 01:14:54.900 --> 01:14:59.120 Thank you for the call tim from florida and the number is 603 01:15:01.060 --> 01:15:05.700 283616 0 to bring up whatever is on your mind. I mean that is 01:15:05.700 --> 01:15:13.940 If if it's true that ice or or israel is training ice. I wonder why israel is training ice. I think I think I have a 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:15.640 I 01:15:16.660 --> 01:15:18.740 believe I'm starting to see 01:15:19.360 --> 01:15:21.540 the kind of the lines in these two 01:15:21.540 --> 01:15:23.280 it is I think 01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:26.980 It is two great powers that are kind of 01:15:26.980 --> 01:15:29.840 fighting for control over the direction of 01:15:30.380 --> 01:15:31.700 this globalist agenda 01:15:32.260 --> 01:15:38.060 Um, I almost feel like part of it is the the marxist line of thinking this the post modernist marxists 01:15:38.060 --> 01:15:43.280 And the other side is would be the pan american technate with the with the tech bros 01:15:43.280 --> 01:15:45.560 um, and either of these options are like very 01:15:46.060 --> 01:15:48.100 That doesn't sound good to us as libertarians 01:15:48.100 --> 01:15:54.120 But it seems like that's kind of the two camps and israel has aligned itself with the american technate 01:15:54.120 --> 01:15:54.860 um 01:15:55.460 --> 01:16:01.520 Against it doesn't surprise me because that's kind of what i'm seeing like with like the eu is so marxist 01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:08.400 And like off the wall with their socialism and stuff. Um, they've all turned on israel. Um, it's israel and america 01:16:08.400 --> 01:16:14.780 They're taking greenland venezuela. I think it's I think it's the pan american technate led by donald trump as some kind of 01:16:14.780 --> 01:16:16.560 Caesar against um 01:16:17.060 --> 01:16:20.860 The marxist the the marxist regime that is that has been on a march since 01:16:21.380 --> 01:16:22.820 At least the 40s 01:16:22.820 --> 01:16:29.340 In europe in in europe and it has bled over into america, right? That's that's why all these marxists are in the streets 01:16:29.340 --> 01:16:34.800 They didn't care about obama deporting eight million people. I watched a video. They didn't get told to care 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:39.260 That's what i'm saying. They they've been activated the communists have been activated for this because 01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:43.580 um, they have to stop this american technate from uh 01:16:43.580 --> 01:16:46.620 Doing what it's doing, but I think the cat might be out of the bag 01:16:47.480 --> 01:16:52.380 Uh, and trump's not working for us. He's working for this this idea of a new empire 01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:58.800 Um, it was and he's going to crush he's going to try to crush whoever's in his way including the communists 01:16:58.800 --> 01:16:59.700 and us 01:17:01.280 --> 01:17:04.440 All kind of creepy stuff because yeah, I do think that we'd be in his way 01:17:05.480 --> 01:17:09.340 I think that the average person thinking for themselves and not being 01:17:09.820 --> 01:17:11.260 raw raw america 01:17:12.420 --> 01:17:16.440 Trump we will help you create your new empire would be in his way 01:17:17.980 --> 01:17:23.760 No, what would and you also have to look at the the other side are marxists these people are communists 01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:29.340 That's that's where we are we would be heading under like a kamala presidency. It wouldn't be saying 01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:33.980 We'd be sending the fbi after parents for not wanting to trans their kids, right? 01:17:34.120 --> 01:17:39.280 We would just be hunting down the other political aisle. Yeah, I think I think that's exactly true 01:17:39.280 --> 01:17:44.340 I think that um people are like freaking out like look what you voted for and it's like 01:17:44.860 --> 01:17:45.740 You brought up that 01:17:46.320 --> 01:17:50.360 When biden was president and he wanted to make federal police in every city 01:17:51.060 --> 01:17:55.400 I completely forgot that that was happening even though it was a big deal on free talk live at the time 01:17:55.400 --> 01:18:01.480 It's just like it stopped being talked about it stopped being in the news and stopped being like important and I forgot that it happened 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:04.060 And yet people are 01:18:04.740 --> 01:18:07.700 acting like that it matters who you vote for and 01:18:08.240 --> 01:18:12.060 I mean it matters only that it has to matter a little bit because I just 01:18:12.820 --> 01:18:17.540 I'm still shook. It's a year later. I'm still so surprised that trump 01:18:18.180 --> 01:18:24.020 Actually freed ross olbrich like he said he would like I can't see any way to spin that 01:18:24.020 --> 01:18:26.800 I was being actually good for their 01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:31.300 Illuminati plan. Do you see what I'm saying? Like I genuinely think that 01:18:32.220 --> 01:18:35.600 Every once in a while they can do something if they want to and maybe have something to do with their whole 01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:37.180 uh, they have like this 01:18:37.660 --> 01:18:38.480 way of thinking 01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:41.860 Where they say do all the good that you can 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:43.360 Like hillard quentin 01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:47.740 Has a biography with that title because apparently she said that but also 01:18:47.740 --> 01:18:53.240 it's like a saying that they them and those say often and that's why they have like charities and whatnot because 01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:57.400 They do so much evil disgusting crap that they believed that just 01:18:58.460 --> 01:19:04.620 Blanket doing some good stuff is gonna cover that up. Have you heard about smartmatic in venezuela in the voting machines? 01:19:05.200 --> 01:19:08.700 No, no, okay. This is gonna get a little crazy. Maybe a little tin hat 01:19:08.700 --> 01:19:14.380 Um, well, I don't have a tin foil hat. So, uh, well, good luck. We'll have to get brainwaves. All right 01:19:14.380 --> 01:19:19.640 So I was a whistleblower saw a video of a whistleblower saying that 01:19:20.120 --> 01:19:27.880 He had evidence that the so smartmatic is a venezuelan company and that's who owns the hardware for dominion voting machines 01:19:29.120 --> 01:19:33.200 Um, and they're positing that uh, have you heard of this cartel del sol? 01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:38.620 No, not specifically. So that's what they're saying this, uh, cartel that was run by venezuela 01:19:38.620 --> 01:19:41.700 It was all of venezuela's top brass was running this cartel 01:19:41.700 --> 01:19:45.620 And they got involved in the voting machine business. So he could rig his own elections 01:19:46.040 --> 01:19:48.320 And this was all the way back in like 2003 01:19:49.080 --> 01:19:52.460 in 2003, uh, at that time would be uh, higo chavez 01:19:53.200 --> 01:19:53.620 um 01:19:54.440 --> 01:20:01.560 Invested in uh in voting software so he could flip his own elections and the first time they implemented that was during his recall election 01:20:02.280 --> 01:20:08.880 um, which was I think back in like 2007 or something. I mean, I was seven years old. So I'm um 01:20:09.340 --> 01:20:12.940 So on his uh recall election what the what they were able to do 01:20:12.940 --> 01:20:17.980 Is they were able to break up the company enough times that they could get their software 01:20:17.980 --> 01:20:23.220 Well, their hardware into us voting machines and they were installed in places like chicago 01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:27.100 um in california um and a lot of these other places 01:20:27.750 --> 01:20:30.960 And it turns out that after looking at the hardware 01:20:31.540 --> 01:20:35.120 There's back doors to servers in serbia 01:20:35.120 --> 01:20:38.820 Right still owned by smartmatic. So all the voting data gets sent 01:20:39.530 --> 01:20:40.440 in a back door 01:20:41.010 --> 01:20:45.760 From a back door access to where you they have access to flip votes is what i'm saying 01:20:46.250 --> 01:20:51.660 They built in their own back door access into the hardware and the hardware is actually built in china 01:20:52.280 --> 01:20:58.040 Restamped made in taiwan to avoid us regulations and then shipped to the us to be used as voting machines 01:20:58.040 --> 01:20:59.920 But do we actually already use them? 01:21:00.220 --> 01:21:02.700 Yeah, we're using them right now the dominion voting the smartmatic software 01:21:02.700 --> 01:21:07.600 We've been using it for the past 20 years and this software has been put into 72 different countries 01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:13.100 That means technically if all this is true venezuela and by extension. I ran in the ccp 01:21:13.740 --> 01:21:14.140 um 01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:18.920 And by extension the cia because I think at that level I think they're all kind of working together 01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:21.920 Um have been controlling 72 different countries 01:21:22.540 --> 01:21:23.500 election results 01:21:23.980 --> 01:21:25.280 for the past at least 01:21:25.280 --> 01:21:30.760 20 years and and they always say that did you know this that malay got elected after the first 01:21:31.700 --> 01:21:36.140 It was the first election after they got rid of voting machines. Yeah, that would make sense 01:21:36.940 --> 01:21:42.860 That would make sense, but and I think it's a built in it's they can build it in to flip votes 01:21:43.380 --> 01:21:48.820 Under three to five percent margin, but if there's a more turnout for the other candidate it can't 01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:51.480 It can't beat it. So it is beatable if it's overwhelming 01:21:52.060 --> 01:21:56.940 But they can hold it in that three to five percent range and they can flip enough votes to make it count 01:21:57.480 --> 01:21:58.060 interesting 01:21:58.900 --> 01:22:03.780 six zero three two eight three six one six zero to bring up whatever's on your mind 01:22:03.780 --> 01:22:11.300 six zero three two eight three six one six zero more free talk live coming up. Don't go anywhere. 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I'm holland cook 01:23:25.380 --> 01:23:27.400 From feature story news in washington 01:23:27.400 --> 01:23:31.820 I'm tony waterman according to new york time sources president 01:23:31.820 --> 01:23:38.260 Donald trump is reviewing an option to send american forces into iran to carry out raids 01:23:38.260 --> 01:23:44.000 It's unclear if those raids would target government officials or even the supreme leader 01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:51.560 The option carries new weight after u.s. Forces captured venezuelan president nicolas maduro earlier this month 01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:57.060 A strike fleet has already been positioned near iran and u.s. Officials say the military 01:23:57.060 --> 01:24:00.340 Is ready to carry out any orders from the president 01:24:00.340 --> 01:24:08.680 Trump is demanding iran end its nuclear program and stop killing demonstrators if it wants to avoid u.s. Military action 01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:18.120 iran's foreign minister said on friday that tehran will not negotiate under threat and that its defense system will never be up for negotiation 01:24:19.120 --> 01:24:25.400 President trump has nominated kevin wash a banking executive to head the u.s. Central bank 01:24:25.400 --> 01:24:34.140 Wash was widely expected to secure the nod and is believed to share the president's desire to see u.s. Interest rates fall more rapidly 01:24:34.140 --> 01:24:36.640 fsn's simon marx reports 01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:45.560 President trump has been hinting for days at the possibility that kevin wash is his choice to replace jerome powell as the chairman of the fed 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:49.020 Now he's confirmed it over his social media account 01:24:49.020 --> 01:24:53.840 The president said he expects mr. Wash to go down as one of the great fed chairman 01:24:53.840 --> 01:25:01.540 Maybe the best the president described his selection as coming from central casting a possible reference to mr. Wash's clean cut 01:25:01.540 --> 01:25:02.700 professional appearance 01:25:02.700 --> 01:25:04.680 But also to his background 01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:09.400 He's a former fed governor and a senior figure at the investment bank morgan stanley 01:25:09.400 --> 01:25:15.780 Certainly president trump is hoping that mr. Wash will prove loyal to his demands for lower interest rates 01:25:15.780 --> 01:25:19.920 Though when the president's selection faces confirmation hearings on capitol hill 01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:27.560 Many lawmakers will want to know whether he's willing to protect the central bank's independence or make it a political arm of the trump administration 01:25:28.360 --> 01:25:37.360 Former cnn anchor don lemon is in custody after being arrested in connection with his reporting during the recent miniapolis ice protests 01:25:37.360 --> 01:25:41.700 The 59 year old's lawyer says mr. Lemon has done nothing wrong 01:25:41.700 --> 01:25:46.420 And insists he is protected by the first amendment of the u.s constitution 01:25:47.060 --> 01:25:48.880 fsn's mitch mccann reports 01:25:49.500 --> 01:25:53.600 The charges that the justice department chose to file were not immediately clear 01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:56.820 But don lemons lawyer says they will be fought vigorously in court 01:25:56.820 --> 01:26:02.220 The former tv anchor was arrested in los angeles on thursday where he was there to cover the grammy awards 01:26:02.220 --> 01:26:06.420 It's reported the arrest is in relation to mr. Lemons coverage of an ice protest 01:26:06.420 --> 01:26:09.460 That took place inside a miniapolis church in recent weeks 01:26:09.460 --> 01:26:15.880 It's reported that following the protest a federal judge initially declined to sign off on an arrest warrant for mr. 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You've got me bonnie angelo and rylea bill 01:27:35.580 --> 01:27:38.580 And we in the last segment. We got a caller 01:27:38.580 --> 01:27:44.080 We talked about alt coins that might turn into cbdcs 01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:48.320 We haven't said I haven't said that word on the show in a while. So did I get the right cbdcs? 01:27:48.420 --> 01:27:53.800 Yes, you did. It's a centralized bank digital currency. Thank you. Thank you, right? So essentially just uh 01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:58.560 Company store money is kind of what i'm hearing it as because if you're giving me x bucks to 01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:01.720 Produce content on x which gets you money from advertisers 01:28:02.220 --> 01:28:05.280 And you're gonna pay me an x bucks and i'm getting paid in company dollars 01:28:05.780 --> 01:28:10.420 And then what do we cannot only spend them on the x store? Oh if you were to say this to 01:28:11.080 --> 01:28:14.720 Like germy kaufman owner of library what it's just store 01:28:15.280 --> 01:28:21.180 They are trying to regulate this kind of thing crazily the reason that library which is the 01:28:21.180 --> 01:28:25.060 Back bone of odyssey. Is that the right way to say that rylea? Yes 01:28:25.620 --> 01:28:32.620 That's the right way to say it. Yep library was a decentralized video sharing basically like a decentralized youtube that germy kaufman created 01:28:32.620 --> 01:28:35.840 I think it was the decentralized protocol. There we have a protocol 01:28:36.280 --> 01:28:40.480 That we could build odyssey. So for odyssey. I know about odyssey. I know, okay 01:28:40.480 --> 01:28:46.640 And um, they had library coin. I think that's what they called it. Yep, and the feds 01:28:47.740 --> 01:28:49.140 Disengorged their company 01:28:49.820 --> 01:28:53.020 Said they have to not be a company anymore 01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:57.420 And luckily like I feel it's just kind of lucky. They didn't just like 01:28:58.000 --> 01:28:59.720 Take any money directly from 01:29:00.700 --> 01:29:03.160 germy or anybody else in the company, but they 01:29:04.300 --> 01:29:08.760 Forced them to not be a company anymore and disengorge them taking like everything 01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:12.620 that uh everything that they've ever made and also 01:29:13.160 --> 01:29:16.800 Any like capital they had or you know any asset they had is what I meant 01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:22.160 Um insane insane work. So was that because they were trying to pay their workers in library bucks? 01:29:22.320 --> 01:29:24.760 Nope, it was actually because they tried to say that they 01:29:25.460 --> 01:29:28.780 advertised it as something that you could make money on but 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:34.400 That it it was all insane because one thing that they were saying was that um 01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:39.900 It was like inaccessible, but he literally gave it away. Do you remember that rylea? 01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:46.860 Uh, I'm trying to remember because it's been a while since I've heard about this case. Yeah, I just know that 01:29:47.540 --> 01:29:51.100 I just remember that Jeremy Kauffman had to get rid of his company 01:29:51.820 --> 01:29:55.980 and disperse the assets and get rid of everything and during the 01:29:57.620 --> 01:30:03.100 Um library case like still being litigated the sec had the nerve to go out and do an 01:30:03.100 --> 01:30:07.740 Interview and say that if they make the roadmaps too clear on regulation 01:30:07.740 --> 01:30:12.080 Then people will know how to get around them. So that's why they purposely make crap 01:30:12.080 --> 01:30:12.580 un 01:30:13.180 --> 01:30:13.660 Uh 01:30:14.220 --> 01:30:16.260 Impossible for you to be it's the bureaucracy 01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:22.520 That's the bureaucracy at work like Angela said they want to make it so confusing and so hard to 01:30:23.020 --> 01:30:27.060 Get through the regulation and things like that as soon as you become an issue 01:30:27.060 --> 01:30:32.380 They can just bring the hammer down. Oh, yeah, right as soon as you do something that they don't want you to skirt the rules 01:30:32.380 --> 01:30:35.960 They don't want you to get around they want you to have a youtube that's not 01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:38.680 Walk down like the very beginning of the show where we're talking about 01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:41.420 They want to keep you in the sandbox. Do you play with the other kids? 01:30:41.920 --> 01:30:45.240 Yep, and if you can't play nice, this is a quote. This is crazy rylea 01:30:45.240 --> 01:30:49.220 My grandma told me this quote when I was a kid and she said she read it from a police officer 01:30:50.200 --> 01:30:52.220 And uh from clan from my hometown 01:30:52.220 --> 01:30:57.420 Right and this was a quote in the paper and they were talking about they did this arrest on some 01:30:58.120 --> 01:31:00.760 Violent guy or whatever and uh, he said 01:31:01.400 --> 01:31:07.900 That it's a sandbox. And if you can't play nice in the sandbox, we will take you out of the sandbox 01:31:08.380 --> 01:31:09.980 And put you in time out 01:31:10.480 --> 01:31:16.620 Oh my god, oh wow, no, that's how he framed it. He was like fantasy phantalyze. Yeah 01:31:16.620 --> 01:31:20.600 Kind of sounds very threatening. Well, no, it was that's exactly it 01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:24.480 And that's what i'm kind of getting at is yeah like you either play nice in the sandbox 01:31:24.480 --> 01:31:30.380 But as soon as you become too much of a problem, there's this whole gray area of law and we'll just hit you with the hammer 01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:34.420 Right, it will take you out if you are a problem whether that's 01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:42.440 Financially whether they can arrest you um and they are not above just killing you if you get become too much of a problem 01:31:43.160 --> 01:31:46.380 Right. Um, we've seen this time and time again 01:31:46.380 --> 01:31:51.200 We're seeing it right now in places like minnesota if you become too much of a problem 01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:53.340 They will just take you out 01:31:54.020 --> 01:31:59.360 Yep, I clearly agree and then the president will be on the tv saying it was oh perfectly 01:32:00.080 --> 01:32:00.900 well done 01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:03.040 kill well done shot and 01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:06.260 They don't feel bad about the fact that your life is gone 01:32:07.360 --> 01:32:11.420 No, but I also I want to I mean it's uh 01:32:12.080 --> 01:32:18.880 These people wouldn't be in the streets unless people were unless they were told to be here. Yeah, that's right. Like this isn't this isn't a natural 01:32:19.540 --> 01:32:22.600 This isn't a natural reaction. This is a this is a 01:32:23.660 --> 01:32:29.680 Um manufactured freak out. Yeah, because cops do horrible and moral things every single day 01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:36.360 And you don't see these liberals going out en masse to just freaking normal cop block and first amendment audit 01:32:36.360 --> 01:32:41.380 And and I would absolutely put aside the fact that they're a liberal if they were out doing that 01:32:41.380 --> 01:32:42.980 I would not be you know, like 01:32:43.660 --> 01:32:48.680 Oh, well, I have something to complain about just because you're leftist. It is not that it's just it's 01:32:49.240 --> 01:32:55.600 I'm going to be like that when you're going to cop block only for one instance because the tv told you so 01:32:55.600 --> 01:33:01.480 Because they're not principled. It's not it's not about principle and the other thing is like if they want you to do it 01:33:02.270 --> 01:33:06.280 Then it's not actually counterculture and and you're not actually making change 01:33:06.280 --> 01:33:09.060 No, no, but that's the part of it that we've 01:33:09.060 --> 01:33:11.660 Split the country so far that there's two 01:33:12.210 --> 01:33:16.220 Right, we're at it's it's all subjective. So we're living in two separate realities 01:33:17.020 --> 01:33:17.560 um 01:33:18.160 --> 01:33:21.420 So one side thinks they're the counterculture to the other 01:33:21.420 --> 01:33:27.620 But they're both just doing the same thing. Essentially. They are the essentially they're pretending to be government 01:33:27.620 --> 01:33:32.720 Yes, but they're also pretending to be counterculture, right? There's no whole this whole I'd trad calf 01:33:33.220 --> 01:33:36.840 Like reject the the idea of global homo return to your roots 01:33:36.840 --> 01:33:39.480 You're you're a rebel against the system 01:33:39.480 --> 01:33:44.200 But on the other side they're telling the marxist kids the same thing, right rebel against the 01:33:44.200 --> 01:33:50.300 The angry evil white capitalist man, right? Like you are the oppressed. Um, they're telling both these groups 01:33:50.900 --> 01:33:57.820 The same thing and you know what that does, you know what that's gearing people up for a conflict, right? That's what happens when you 01:33:57.820 --> 01:34:03.920 Uh divide people and then both tell them they're the rebels eventually. They're going to start clashing with each other 01:34:04.460 --> 01:34:08.880 Um either kinetically or I mean we're in the true rebel and the true libertarian 01:34:10.020 --> 01:34:11.900 Right Riley's the only true libertarian 01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.000 Exactly and the only true scotsman. Yes 01:34:16.020 --> 01:34:18.160 But I mean this is just I think 01:34:19.140 --> 01:34:24.200 Is this by design do we just need like a it's divided by design because United States 01:34:24.200 --> 01:34:29.320 Because when you divide when people are divided, they don't they don't function. Well, they they'll never 01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:33.380 They'll never play well together and they'll never develop well together 01:34:33.380 --> 01:34:37.980 And so when you divide people and get them all divided and on all different pages 01:34:38.620 --> 01:34:42.980 It's easier to bring them to civil war or civil unrest. It's easier to 01:34:43.580 --> 01:34:47.980 displace people from having empathy for someone suffering who's not of their community because 01:34:47.980 --> 01:34:53.960 Well, they're the other and so we got to take care of the we we got to forget the other because they're 01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:56.440 The other is the enemy. We are the 01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:00.240 We are the rebels here. We are the ones saving America democracy 01:35:00.240 --> 01:35:05.680 Whatever you want to call it on the left and we got to root out the racist the bigots the homophobes 01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:07.480 And make trans people great again 01:35:09.240 --> 01:35:09.720 um 01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:12.060 I completely agree with you guys and also 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:16.760 I think that when you're all pointing at each other, you're not pointing at them 01:35:19.080 --> 01:35:23.680 Exactly well and that that makes it almost sound like a like a class thing 01:35:24.220 --> 01:35:24.600 um 01:35:24.600 --> 01:35:27.740 But I also don't feel like a class war it cannot happen because 01:35:28.380 --> 01:35:34.220 The mob the mob doesn't have access to enough capital and they've taken all the wealth and put it into like computers 01:35:34.220 --> 01:35:36.280 So even if you did like go grab them 01:35:36.900 --> 01:35:39.220 The money's not there. They don't have the money 01:35:39.220 --> 01:35:43.600 I meant them as in like the government, but well the government doesn't even have the money like even 01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:48.180 I didn't mean about money. I meant more just like if you're like, what is the problem? It's you 01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:51.000 No, it's you you're not realizing the problem is them, you know 01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:57.500 Yes, yeah indication is not happening. Obviously. I just think like you can't you even if you did point at them 01:35:57.500 --> 01:36:01.680 They have the funding right they control where the money moves 01:36:02.240 --> 01:36:03.740 Um, so they're gonna put 01:36:04.300 --> 01:36:09.480 They're gonna swing their weight around as the government like like with these NGOs that got a bunch of us aid, right? 01:36:09.900 --> 01:36:16.320 the government got to sway public opinion by giving tax dollars back to these NGOs that 01:36:17.220 --> 01:36:21.520 Change the culture. I still think there are many ways that if americans like 01:36:22.400 --> 01:36:26.280 Even did one of the things that I'm about to suggest 01:36:26.280 --> 01:36:31.660 We could swing our weight around and things would start changing wildly and like we would 01:36:31.660 --> 01:36:32.780 Mess them up 01:36:32.780 --> 01:36:40.120 Imagine if all americans started doing things like not paying petty fines like I got fined 01:36:40.120 --> 01:36:46.180 Man, I got fined for parking just right over the line not gonna pay it just all americans like yeah, you can't 01:36:46.180 --> 01:36:48.220 I know the whole point the whole um 01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:55.480 Thing people say in arguments like well, you can't make wood if everyone does that, but I'm just saying if 01:36:56.200 --> 01:36:59.880 We all as a people versus them started doing 01:37:00.480 --> 01:37:04.680 Just one thing it would be crazy for them if they'd have to restructure 01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:08.460 But I think they're doing a lot more than that to get people to that point though 01:37:08.460 --> 01:37:09.220 um 01:37:09.660 --> 01:37:15.600 The first people first few people that really like stick to it are gonna get brutalized by the government 01:37:16.040 --> 01:37:20.680 I mean, that's what happened to uh people during the civil rights movement. The first few were brutalized 01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:27.560 Until everybody got on board and I think most people are at the point where they don't want to be brutalized 01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:30.320 So they're too comfortable. Yeah, they're too comfortable. Everything is so comfortable 01:37:30.320 --> 01:37:38.080 Like you can be completely owned like a slave but be extremely comfortable and that's the middle ground the the matrix 01:37:38.780 --> 01:37:40.060 Wanted for us. They were like 01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:46.440 Oh the people kept rebelling and I don't mean the matrix as in like we were saying earlier like um a simulation 01:37:46.440 --> 01:37:52.100 But it's basically the same thing but it's made of people the matrix was saw that over history 01:37:52.700 --> 01:37:58.760 People rebelled when you're just like how about we make them go to war every single day and they only have to get to eat 01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:04.100 Rocks. Oh, they don't like that that they rebelled. They don't listen to us. Well, if you make them really comfortable 01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:08.740 And also a hundred percent a slave they've they found their perfect middle ground 01:38:08.740 --> 01:38:12.280 Yeah, if you give them most of the things they want, you know 01:38:12.940 --> 01:38:14.460 food three times a day 01:38:15.120 --> 01:38:16.820 They watch their favorite 01:38:18.100 --> 01:38:22.280 Slop on the tv or the favorite circus on whatever 01:38:22.920 --> 01:38:23.440 outside 01:38:24.120 --> 01:38:28.540 Sportball or something. No offense. Keep them comfortable. Like you said bonnie 01:38:28.540 --> 01:38:34.580 Then obviously we can keep them the slaves. Yep. I honestly think so, but of course, it's not just sports ball 01:38:34.580 --> 01:38:37.660 There's like all kind of well, I think the industry 01:38:38.640 --> 01:38:44.280 Um, I guess yeah, I would agree with you that the entire like sports prepare young men for war 01:38:44.460 --> 01:38:46.980 That's the entire point of why they exist 01:38:47.580 --> 01:38:50.380 Um, it's to learn to move in a team and to 01:38:50.380 --> 01:38:51.680 Accomplish a goal together 01:38:52.200 --> 01:38:53.620 And in a physical manner 01:38:54.260 --> 01:38:58.520 That's that's kind of what like but that's what sports have been the entire time like greek wrestling 01:38:59.240 --> 01:39:04.900 Was was you were fighting, right? That's what the they had boxing that their sports were just 01:39:05.880 --> 01:39:11.920 Preparing for fighting people playing sports with their community is a different thing than just like the type of person 01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:16.580 Who's sometimes never even played a sport being obsessed with the people 01:39:17.200 --> 01:39:21.360 Yeah, that's well, that's just you're idolizing a human who doesn't care about you. That's just silly 01:39:21.360 --> 01:39:24.920 It's the same thing. That's idol worship not idol worship, but like celebrity worship 01:39:25.340 --> 01:39:28.500 I can't stand it because they're just people. That's why I said I have my own 01:39:28.500 --> 01:39:31.400 What's the word like vices? I like some celebrity stuff 01:39:31.400 --> 01:39:34.880 But at some point I got to a point where like i'll never be like 01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:39.420 I absolutely feel that a celebrity loves me or couldn't care about me ever again 01:39:39.420 --> 01:39:44.060 Watch football on tv anymore. I played it for 15 20 15 years of my life 01:39:44.060 --> 01:39:49.040 Right, I don't watch it on the television anymore because it's not I played it 01:39:49.040 --> 01:39:53.200 You know what I mean? I don't want to watch other men play the game. I play that's silly 01:39:53.200 --> 01:39:55.100 Maybe I'll go back when i'm 60 01:39:56.460 --> 01:40:01.440 You know and I might coach some kids or something like go back to a high school and coach if that's still a thing 01:40:02.340 --> 01:40:04.200 Um, but like I don't need to watch 01:40:04.860 --> 01:40:05.260 Uh 01:40:05.780 --> 01:40:11.000 Other guys go play at the same level I did. You know what I mean? I don't need it. I I experienced it 01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:16.100 I don't have any wish to go back and like I don't need to those aren't just my glory days 01:40:16.100 --> 01:40:19.920 I have more days ahead of me. You know what I mean? I'm not going to spend my time watching other people do 01:40:19.920 --> 01:40:24.160 My thing. I also just feel like it's for some people. It's just 01:40:25.420 --> 01:40:27.040 It's a way to feel pride 01:40:27.680 --> 01:40:29.860 In something to do with them. Yeah 01:40:29.860 --> 01:40:33.000 Like why would you be proud proud that some people that 01:40:33.520 --> 01:40:37.320 Majority aren't even from where you're from but they represent where you're from for some reason 01:40:37.320 --> 01:40:40.940 When that I think that really blew the lid off of any illusion 01:40:40.940 --> 01:40:43.780 I had about sports ball not that I was like ever a van at all 01:40:43.780 --> 01:40:49.000 But when I first heard in like high school like I feel like I just noticed my dad and brother talking 01:40:49.620 --> 01:40:52.140 about somebody being from another state but 01:40:52.900 --> 01:40:57.120 Being on a different states team and no no the trading aspect 01:40:57.120 --> 01:41:00.600 I think I've brought that up before like oh, they treated this guy into a different team 01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:05.940 It's like what I thought he had to be like from there representing there. You see what I'm saying or at least choose one 01:41:05.940 --> 01:41:08.220 Well, it is at the high school level 01:41:08.720 --> 01:41:13.020 Yeah, you are representing where you're from and that I can get behind maybe like 01:41:13.020 --> 01:41:19.820 I think high school pride is silly, but it's still more representative of your of your like your community than 01:41:19.820 --> 01:41:20.800 like your 01:41:21.360 --> 01:41:23.040 NFL team is college 01:41:23.040 --> 01:41:27.540 Colleges are the same way too. Well college is I mean they bring in people from all over the country anymore 01:41:27.540 --> 01:41:33.740 Especially there's like big d1 programs. I mean half of more than half of oregon like the university of oregon's 01:41:34.700 --> 01:41:40.940 Probably like 85 of it is not from the state of oregon. They're roster. It's mostly like arizona florida texas kids 01:41:40.940 --> 01:41:45.560 Wow, yeah, they do. I mean it's almost unheard of for an oregon kid to go 01:41:46.080 --> 01:41:48.740 Play at like the university of oregon. It's like one or two 01:41:49.280 --> 01:41:52.060 Like every four years. I didn't know that it's crazy 01:41:52.620 --> 01:41:53.220 but um 01:41:53.980 --> 01:41:58.900 Yeah, do you guys want to talk about a i what they think about our conspiracy? Yeah, what do they think? I honestly 01:41:58.900 --> 01:42:03.640 Let's get into I don't care what they think at the end of the day, but let's just hear them out 01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:09.800 I do want to know what these people want us to believe that they think so this from semaphore.com 01:42:10.380 --> 01:42:14.100 um, it says that first he brought up the x used to be 01:42:14.100 --> 01:42:17.940 A cesspool and then it got back into being 01:42:18.380 --> 01:42:21.780 A place where you can actually find news and a lot of people 01:42:22.500 --> 01:42:27.780 Organize and have conversations about the news and politics on x aka twitter 01:42:28.560 --> 01:42:32.500 And he said that he brought up this network called 01:42:32.500 --> 01:42:36.000 Molt book and molt book is ai only 01:42:36.820 --> 01:42:45.420 How is molt book spelled m o l t book all one word? Okay, and it says it's also where you can find humans at their worst 01:42:46.040 --> 01:42:48.680 Oh, hold on. Sorry. Uh, this is he's talking about x again. Sorry 01:42:49.160 --> 01:42:53.740 Um x is where you can find humans at their worst way down the ebbstein rabbit hole and apparently that's just his opinion 01:42:54.160 --> 01:42:58.240 Um, I don't think that the majority of people who are way down the ebbstein rabbit hole are the 01:42:58.640 --> 01:43:04.080 People those people being at their worst is like they're being concerned about something that might have real victims 01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:08.660 That the government is also hiding the to protect the 01:43:09.540 --> 01:43:15.400 People abusing what else are they hiding is it asks it asks the question if they're willing to hide this 01:43:15.940 --> 01:43:21.540 What else are they willing to cover up and that leads you down an entire different line of questioning right a different 01:43:22.860 --> 01:43:26.860 Mind more questions. Just more questions open up. Yeah, he's he continues 01:43:26.860 --> 01:43:32.760 I took a fair amount of heat back in june for describing the ebbstein obsession and I say ebbstein 01:43:32.760 --> 01:43:36.540 I don't know why as queuing on for people with college degrees 01:43:37.100 --> 01:43:40.300 It's an uncomfortable position to hold when the academic 01:43:40.300 --> 01:43:42.380 Nicholas nesim talib 01:43:42.380 --> 01:43:48.120 Holds the view that quote not only can we be confident that there is a conspiracy but worse 01:43:48.120 --> 01:43:53.340 We can also be confident that those who claim that there is no conspiracy are part of that conspiracy 01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:59.400 Unquote and he says uh, oh, okay. I think that's a little far if you just say like a random 01:44:00.720 --> 01:44:03.620 Person writing an article, um, you know a random journalist 01:44:03.620 --> 01:44:07.880 If you don't believe in the ebbstein conspiracy then you're a 01:44:09.020 --> 01:44:10.060 You're part of it 01:44:11.980 --> 01:44:15.540 Well, we did a paranoid in high school. We did like an anti 01:44:16.380 --> 01:44:19.460 This will tie in just hold on we did an anti, uh 01:44:20.500 --> 01:44:20.760 um 01:44:21.290 --> 01:44:24.060 Like domestic violence campaign kind of thing 01:44:24.580 --> 01:44:30.020 Where it's like but the tagline was what you tolerate you encouraged and I thought wait a second 01:44:30.940 --> 01:44:34.740 Wait a second. This is if you blanketed that statement to everything 01:44:35.220 --> 01:44:39.200 I could see where in this idea in this framework right with the ebbstein case 01:44:39.200 --> 01:44:41.720 If you're going to tolerate it and act like it doesn't exist 01:44:41.720 --> 01:44:45.740 Then you're kind of running cover for them because you're not going to point out the elephant in the room 01:44:47.160 --> 01:44:50.760 Like you're almost encouraging it's like you're helping keep the curtain back 01:44:51.400 --> 01:44:58.580 I just or closed. I think for the most part everybody who just like outright denies conspiracy is 01:44:59.180 --> 01:45:00.720 in a way, you know, like 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:06.140 Maybe running cover is a good word, but when you say like a part of the ebbstein conspiracy to me, that's like 01:45:06.820 --> 01:45:08.120 You're one of them 01:45:08.120 --> 01:45:12.080 I just think that's a little far. You can't like lump them in with the pedophiles 01:45:12.080 --> 01:45:13.980 Even if they're like maybe even getting paid 01:45:14.780 --> 01:45:19.760 To redirect people's attention, you know what I mean? Like and I'm not saying. Oh, he could be doing nothing wrong 01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:21.080 It could still be wrong 01:45:21.580 --> 01:45:25.280 I'm just afraid of that getting people paranoid like anybody who doesn't believe in it 01:45:25.280 --> 01:45:30.600 They're a pedophile too. You see what I mean? No, not a pedophile, but I mean if they're getting paid to tell you it doesn't exist 01:45:31.280 --> 01:45:36.860 Um, and it turns out that it did exist and those people those people regardless took money 01:45:37.260 --> 01:45:39.020 to protect people who 01:45:40.320 --> 01:45:44.060 Harm children and that's just at that point what you have nothing. I have nothing to say to you 01:45:44.060 --> 01:45:46.980 There's nothing there's no gray area for that for me 01:45:46.980 --> 01:45:50.180 But what if it's just that they are just intellectually 01:45:50.780 --> 01:45:58.200 Lazy and they just they can't face the reality that ebbstein and trump and all these people were getting together and abusing 01:45:59.280 --> 01:46:00.140 children and women 01:46:01.600 --> 01:46:05.220 What if that's all there is to it? They're just a coward and they're dumb 01:46:05.220 --> 01:46:10.500 You know what I mean? Like I'm not saying you're a coward and then why am I listening to you in the first place? 01:46:10.640 --> 01:46:15.240 You're a coward, right? So you just maybe I don't want to send you. I'm not going to put you in jail 01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:19.680 But I want the world should know that you're a coward and you and you did 01:46:20.180 --> 01:46:25.220 Protect these people you protected these monsters and this guy's name is 30 pieces of silver 01:46:25.220 --> 01:46:28.980 Ben Smith, by the way co-founder and editor-in-chief semaphore 01:46:29.700 --> 01:46:34.460 I just realized we hadn't said who this is. That's okay. And that's like, yeah, call them out 01:46:34.460 --> 01:46:36.880 So let's see what he says he says and yet 01:46:37.500 --> 01:46:39.580 Is that a full sentence and yet period? 01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:40.200 But anyways 01:46:40.800 --> 01:46:48.600 The new pile of the ebbstein files more than three million pages in all reveal embarrassing fibs from his former friends 01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:51.900 Emailing him years after they claimed to have ditched him 01:46:52.350 --> 01:46:58.480 They include grotesque gossip about one billionaire mildly humiliating social behavior from another 01:46:58.480 --> 01:47:02.420 None are stories that in a vacuum most news outlets would cover 01:47:03.090 --> 01:47:08.120 The documents also include another wave of whispers about us president donald trump 01:47:08.120 --> 01:47:14.560 There's a spreadsheet of unverified anonymous allegations. There's the report that glane maxwell 01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:21.160 presented trump with to a 22 year old woman after which nothing happened 01:47:21.830 --> 01:47:22.200 What? 01:47:23.350 --> 01:47:27.040 And that's a quote where it says after which quote nothing happened unquote 01:47:27.550 --> 01:47:33.240 um trump fed news of his preference for models to the tabloids for most of his life 01:47:33.240 --> 01:47:35.820 His friendship with ebbstein was never a secret 01:47:36.470 --> 01:47:41.240 though his bungling aides accidental reopening of it is 01:47:41.860 --> 01:47:44.460 One of history's greatest political errors 01:47:44.900 --> 01:47:51.760 And voters who disapproved of trump's lifestyle and treatment of women in his personal life had two chances to vote against him 01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:55.940 In fact, the harder you look at what's emerged so far. What's most striking is 01:47:56.920 --> 01:48:04.880 What isn't in the files any evidence that members of ebbstein's gilded social circle committed crimes financial or sexual 01:48:05.320 --> 01:48:07.480 That could have led to criminal charges 01:48:07.480 --> 01:48:14.500 Nora has the evidence of his cheerful brokering of money and information with current and former russian israeli and u.s 01:48:14.500 --> 01:48:15.300 government officials 01:48:15.300 --> 01:48:18.500 Amounted to the kind of deep cover operation some believe 01:48:19.160 --> 01:48:24.220 They just wouldn't put that out. I kind of been lost at this guy's point. Sorry. No, this guy is uh 01:48:25.840 --> 01:48:28.420 Sounds like he's running cover for a ring of pedophiles 01:48:29.220 --> 01:48:32.420 That's just to be honest. Um, a lot of people will 01:48:33.160 --> 01:48:37.320 Talk about something in way more complicated terms and throw in these like anecdotes 01:48:37.320 --> 01:48:42.360 We don't need to hear to talk about it in order to sound like it's way too complicated way up up your like I feel like 01:48:42.360 --> 01:48:44.780 I'm like, what are you going on about? Yeah, I mean 01:48:44.780 --> 01:48:47.920 No, I see what he's I see what he's going on about uh 01:48:47.920 --> 01:48:52.920 To an extent, but it just sounds like he's just uh, he's trying to it's it's explaining a way 01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:56.080 He's it's like a press he's but that's what he's trying to say it's like well 01:48:56.080 --> 01:49:00.700 He's explaining in a way they we haven't found any evidence of crimes. Why would they release all that stuff? 01:49:00.700 --> 01:49:05.400 Yeah, exactly. I mean if it's also if half of it's redacted. There's still a bunch of black lines all over it 01:49:05.400 --> 01:49:10.200 You don't I mean they probably fixed the goof this time. You probably can't copy and paste this 01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:15.880 This release like they did the last one. Um, did you know about this one? Yeah, I knew about it 01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:20.680 No, the last f scene release that they did um, it was a lot of it was redacted 01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:24.900 There's a pdf file. There's a pdf file you could copy and paste the you can copy and paste it 01:49:24.900 --> 01:49:28.440 Yeah, you can copy and paste it and all the black bars just disappeared. What? 01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:34.200 Yeah, did anybody find anything actually interesting under there? I don't think so interesting 01:49:35.060 --> 01:49:37.660 Maybe that's goes to you know, uh 01:49:38.200 --> 01:49:43.820 Our caller cretin from katucky. Maybe that goes to his point that it's just all ai-generated slop anyway 01:49:43.820 --> 01:49:50.200 And of course they're gonna put some redacted stuff because they want to look it to look like a normal release from the government 01:49:50.920 --> 01:49:52.860 No, I think uh f scene 01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:56.660 Could I it could as it might as well be a red herring 01:49:56.660 --> 01:50:00.680 It could be a red could have been a red herring the whole time for trump to find dissidents who knows 01:50:02.020 --> 01:50:02.420 Um 01:50:02.900 --> 01:50:04.980 If that makes any sense like just to 01:50:05.520 --> 01:50:08.180 Look at people who will question him. Yeah 01:50:08.700 --> 01:50:11.020 Just be able to identify people who would question it. Yes 01:50:11.580 --> 01:50:14.800 This guy so far we haven't figured out what ai thinks from this guy 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:17.420 But he says the strongest case for the up sign obsession 01:50:17.420 --> 01:50:24.060 Is that it's a kind of metaphor that his circle reveals the inwardness and corruption of american elites 01:50:24.060 --> 01:50:32.200 I imagine epstein would love this as a convincing new york times investigation showed the sex criminal was a gatsby-esque con man 01:50:32.860 --> 01:50:37.920 Feeding his fame and fortune with an astute trade in money status and information 01:50:38.660 --> 01:50:43.380 At some point the public might want to accept that we're the final victims of his con 01:50:43.380 --> 01:50:51.360 Elevating his status beyond his wildest dreams or maybe the bots trained on the humans of reddit and other social media platforms 01:50:51.360 --> 01:50:53.960 Will prove me wrong and unearth the real epstein conspiracy 01:50:54.880 --> 01:51:02.640 Humans cannot process three million pages computer mic wrote on multbook agents can and that's a ai person talking 01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:06.140 I mean the ai not person talking more free talk live coming up 01:51:06.140 --> 01:51:12.700 Don't go anywhere you can call 603 2836 160 to get in on the conversation with us 01:51:12.700 --> 01:51:14.920 More free talk live coming up. Don't go anywhere 01:51:15.460 --> 01:51:19.600 Free talk live. Are you saying there's something wrong with a gay couple adopting children? 01:51:20.160 --> 01:51:22.880 I absolutely. What is it? What could possibly be wrong about that? 01:51:23.280 --> 01:51:30.800 Then the children are going to be raised by queers instead of by uh, you know, you are homophobic aren't you tom? 01:51:31.100 --> 01:51:35.240 No, but anyway, what's wrong with them being raised by gay people? 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:39.900 Because gay people are unfit to raise children. How dare you? 01:51:39.900 --> 01:51:43.800 I object a lot. I had a friend who was adopted by uh gay parents 01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:50.920 And he grew up just fine with completely normal values and it's a very normal functioning member of society 01:51:50.920 --> 01:51:56.860 I've met plenty of gay people in my time who I thought would make fantastic parents and would be far better parents 01:51:56.860 --> 01:52:01.840 Than many of the white trash parents that are out there raising kids today tom. Do you know any gay people? 01:52:02.720 --> 01:52:08.220 Uh, I try not to but yeah, well that figures and you're about done. 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Forces captured venezuelan president nicolas maduro earlier this month 01:53:51.320 --> 01:53:56.840 A strike fleet has already been positioned near iran and us officials say the military 01:53:56.840 --> 01:54:00.120 Is ready to carry out any orders from the president 01:54:00.120 --> 01:54:08.440 trump is demanding iran end its nuclear program and stop killing demonstrators if it wants to avoid us military action 01:54:08.440 --> 01:54:17.880 iran's foreign minister said on friday that tyron will not negotiate under threat and that its defense system will never be up for negotiation 01:54:18.860 --> 01:54:25.160 President trump has nominated kevin wash a banking executive to head the u.s. Central bank 01:54:25.160 --> 01:54:33.020 Wash was widely expected to secure the nod and is believed to share the president's desire to see us interest rates fall 01:54:33.020 --> 01:54:36.420 More rapidly fsn's simon marx reports 01:54:37.700 --> 01:54:45.300 President trump has been hinting for days at the possibility that kevin wash is his choice to replace jerome powell as the chairman of the fed 01:54:45.300 --> 01:54:48.760 Now he's confirmed it over his social media account 01:54:48.760 --> 01:54:53.620 The president said he expects mr. Wash to go down as one of the great fed chairman 01:54:53.620 --> 01:55:01.320 Maybe the best the president described his selection as coming from central casting a possible reference to mr. Wash's clean cut 01:55:01.580 --> 01:55:04.420 Professional appearance but also to his background 01:55:04.420 --> 01:55:09.160 He's a former fed governor and a senior figure at the investment bank morgan stanley 01:55:09.160 --> 01:55:15.540 Certainly president trump is hoping that mr. Wash will prove loyal to his demands for lower interest rates 01:55:15.540 --> 01:55:19.680 Though when the president's selection faces confirmation hearings on capitol hill 01:55:19.680 --> 01:55:27.380 Many lawmakers will want to know whether he's willing to protect the central bank's independence or make it a political arm of the trump administration 01:55:28.120 --> 01:55:37.120 Former cnn anchor don levin is in custody after being arrested in connection with his reporting during the recent miniapolis ice protests 01:55:37.120 --> 01:55:41.460 The 59 year old's lawyer says mr. Lehmann has done nothing wrong 01:55:41.460 --> 01:55:46.160 And insists he is protected by the first amendment of the u.s constitution 01:55:46.780 --> 01:55:48.620 fsn's mitch mccann reports 01:55:49.240 --> 01:55:53.380 The charges that the justice department chose to file were not immediately clear 01:55:53.380 --> 01:55:56.600 But don lehmann's lawyer says they will be fought vigorously in court 01:55:56.600 --> 01:56:01.980 The former tv anchor was arrested in los angeles on thursday where he was there to cover the grammy awards 01:56:01.980 --> 01:56:09.200 It's reported the arrest is in relation to mr. Lehmann's coverage of an ice protest that took place inside a miniapolis church in recent weeks 01:56:09.200 --> 01:56:15.760 It's reported that following the protest a federal judge initially declined to sign off on an arrest warrant for mr. Lehmann 01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:18.720 Former colleagues and lawmakers have defended the broadcaster 01:56:19.460 --> 01:56:23.020 From bureaus worldwide. This is fsn 01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:30.960 With fsn spotlight i'm simon marx ending the week with a very sober warning about the rapidity of developments in the field of artificial 01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:37.180 Intelligence a new poll this week showed that more than a quarter of all workers in britain fear 01:56:37.180 --> 01:56:40.520 They will lose their jobs to ai in the next five years 01:56:40.520 --> 01:56:48.020 And this week alone amazon announced a further 16 000 job losses mainly in america because of ai 01:56:48.620 --> 01:56:52.320 This was the week when jeffrey hinton the so-called godfather of ai 01:56:52.320 --> 01:57:00.360 Predicted that virtually every single job on the planet is going to be replaced by the industry that he now regrets having sparked 01:57:00.360 --> 01:57:01.640 Already we're seeing 01:57:02.280 --> 01:57:06.480 Starting jobs in many professions like lawyers being taken over by ai 01:57:07.200 --> 01:57:13.520 Most experts believe that sometime within the next 20 years quite possibly within 10 years will have super intelligence 01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:17.980 Something better than us and that will be able to do any new job that's created 01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:19.500 It'll be all of them 01:57:19.500 --> 01:57:25.600 The big tech companies are thinking if we can be the first to get really good ai human level ai 01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:27.600 We can make a lot of money 01:57:28.220 --> 01:57:31.200 Selling ai to companies so that they can replace workers 01:57:31.660 --> 01:57:35.420 As far as i can see that's the only place they can get their huge investments back 01:57:36.360 --> 01:57:39.240 Um, they're not thinking about the social consequences of that 01:57:39.240 --> 01:57:42.460 They're assuming somehow the state will take care of it, but i don't see how it can 01:57:42.460 --> 01:57:46.620 What does all that mean for youngsters trying to position themselves for the future? 01:57:46.980 --> 01:57:50.820 jeffrey hintons got ideas for them and you'll hear those on monday 01:57:51.560 --> 01:57:53.640 And a recap of today's headlines 01:57:53.640 --> 01:58:02.300 The new york times is reporting that president trump is reviewing an option to send us troops into iran for targeted raids 01:58:03.060 --> 01:58:11.640 President trump has nominated banking exec kevin warsh to head the us central bank like trump warsh says interest rates should be lower 01:58:11.640 --> 01:58:18.960 Former cnn anchor don levin has been arrested in connection with his reporting during minneapolis ice protests 01:58:19.700 --> 01:58:22.940 That's feature story news. tony waterman reporting 01:58:24.660 --> 01:58:30.720 Federal authorities are currently on high alert in washington dc following reports that hundreds of crazed sociopaths 01:58:30.720 --> 01:58:36.360 Infiltrated the congressional chambers this morning. mary canley a capital employee who managed to escape the house chambers 01:58:36.360 --> 01:58:39.700 Describe the troubling scene to reporters. I saw all of them 01:58:40.190 --> 01:58:46.960 About four to five hundred completely deranged people just rambling on about guns the the military and money 01:58:47.720 --> 01:58:54.560 Investigators say the lunatics many of whom are believed to suffer from severe personality disorders have locked themselves in the chambers for hours now 01:58:54.560 --> 01:58:58.560 With no clear purpose or reasoning. I looked at one of them right in the eyes and 01:58:59.230 --> 01:59:01.380 It was like he was empty on the inside 01:59:01.850 --> 01:59:05.280 The void of any emotion or feeling it was horrifying 01:59:05.280 --> 01:59:09.040 It's only a matter of time before they do something that really hurt someone 01:59:09.040 --> 01:59:15.340 We believe these men to be manipulative and extremely dangerous. Luckily, they are also very disorganized and there is a chance 01:59:15.340 --> 01:59:21.580 They may never be able to ever take any action at all for more on this developing story. 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It might just mean he's getting money 02:01:58.000 --> 02:02:00.640 He was the editor-in-chief at buzzfeed news for 02:02:01.440 --> 02:02:01.880 Uh 02:02:02.400 --> 02:02:03.120 Almost 20 02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:08.760 No, almost 10 years 2011 to 2020. He was the guy the guy who wrote this article 02:02:08.760 --> 02:02:12.040 Okay. Yeah. Wow. That is a long time with buzzfeed 02:02:15.020 --> 02:02:19.920 I don't I don't understand that was the end of the article or yeah, that was the end of the article 02:02:19.920 --> 02:02:25.680 What I don't understand what this is like all he says at the end here is maybe there is a there there 02:02:25.680 --> 02:02:29.400 The debunking narrative may succeed in burying some epstein theories 02:02:29.400 --> 02:02:33.160 The new york times is ross doubt that wrote in september 02:02:33.160 --> 02:02:36.100 But there is still a mystery here a strong hint of something important 02:02:36.100 --> 02:02:40.140 We don't know some wonderful secret to quote the birthday book 02:02:40.140 --> 02:02:45.980 Missive that remains to be disclosed. I'm sorry, but I got tricked by the the headline here 02:02:46.800 --> 02:02:48.240 What will the bots think? 02:02:49.540 --> 02:02:53.460 The humans are chasing chasing conspiracies. What will the bots think? 02:02:54.360 --> 02:02:57.800 But he didn't tell us what the bots will think except one little part 02:02:58.340 --> 02:02:58.820 Sorry 02:02:59.540 --> 02:03:05.340 Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna say this this is a little crazy. Oh man. I just looked up 02:03:05.340 --> 02:03:08.720 Mm-hmm that guy through his mother's side 02:03:09.680 --> 02:03:10.120 Um 02:03:10.120 --> 02:03:15.560 You check the early life. I check the early life section and it checks out my assumption. Sorry about it 02:03:15.560 --> 02:03:18.120 How do you get the last name smith? Oh, well, that was his father's idea 02:03:19.420 --> 02:03:24.180 Interesting. Um, just to point that out just to point that out and he's from new york city 02:03:24.940 --> 02:03:28.960 New york city just like eps just like eps team. He's a he's a 02:03:29.500 --> 02:03:33.400 It's feeling more natural say epsine right now, but whenever I saw it written 02:03:33.400 --> 02:03:35.900 I was like, no, it's eps time. I don't I don't care and now it's like 02:03:36.260 --> 02:03:40.320 Going back and forth. Do you guys always say eps team? I always say eps team eps team 02:03:40.320 --> 02:03:44.000 So they all go back to eps team, but we do have a caller on the line 02:03:44.000 --> 02:03:50.180 So really really fast pickup time. So it's going to be shocked. Sarah new mexico. You're on free talk live 02:03:50.180 --> 02:03:51.000 What's on your mind? 02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:56.400 Am I on? Yeah, it was pretty fast. I got your own pretty fast. Oh, yeah 02:03:56.400 --> 02:04:00.380 I was just kind of like I was kind of put out my speakerphone 02:04:01.180 --> 02:04:01.940 um, but 02:04:02.540 --> 02:04:07.360 You know, I've turned off that more people are leaving out of the mexico 02:04:08.100 --> 02:04:09.360 so we have 02:04:10.520 --> 02:04:13.080 decreased in the population here 02:04:13.660 --> 02:04:15.100 Why do you think that is sara? 02:04:16.740 --> 02:04:23.180 Well, you know what they were at first they were thinking that well, we have the ice and banded 02:04:23.780 --> 02:04:26.820 Running out all the illegals. I might be part of the reason 02:04:27.700 --> 02:04:31.380 But they found out that the united state 02:04:32.160 --> 02:04:34.080 citizens are leaving out 02:04:34.720 --> 02:04:35.940 um our state 02:04:36.700 --> 02:04:37.080 and 02:04:38.020 --> 02:04:42.840 So they found that out and so my theory is that 02:04:44.680 --> 02:04:50.820 They want to get out of here before they get run over by a car in like a hit-and-run driver 02:04:51.440 --> 02:04:51.820 Okay 02:04:52.400 --> 02:05:00.120 Yeah, that that's my that's my hypothesis. It's your personal hypothesis is they're fleeing new mexico so they don't get hit by a car 02:05:00.920 --> 02:05:04.080 Right because we're number one in pedestrian fatality 02:05:04.700 --> 02:05:09.860 Well, that's my little joke, but okay. Okay. It's she's joking. Yeah, I think she was joking 02:05:09.860 --> 02:05:13.080 I didn't know you were joking sarah. I thought you were serious and I was just going to say well 02:05:13.080 --> 02:05:14.840 Probably more people are drivers than 02:05:14.840 --> 02:05:16.400 pedestrians, but okay 02:05:17.340 --> 02:05:23.500 But well, I know that things that you know that takes away like that those kind of things that 02:05:24.040 --> 02:05:28.540 It takes away from the quality of life. It's not what they call um 02:05:29.140 --> 02:05:35.180 Like public safety isn't one of the things that make people want to live in a certain place 02:05:35.820 --> 02:05:41.080 So the public safety, you know any time that maybe it's a crime rate also 02:05:41.760 --> 02:05:42.160 so 02:05:42.160 --> 02:05:46.840 Yeah, it's the more like real estate the moral crime 02:05:47.360 --> 02:05:52.820 Um that you have in the area the keeper the houses get never just get run down 02:05:53.520 --> 02:05:55.520 uh, that's kind of like that 02:05:55.520 --> 02:05:56.140 um 02:05:57.380 --> 02:05:58.660 theory, um 02:05:59.400 --> 02:06:04.520 So actually I I was told that our real estate market is like the buyer's market 02:06:05.280 --> 02:06:09.020 So in other words, there's more houses for sale 02:06:09.740 --> 02:06:10.220 um 02:06:10.220 --> 02:06:15.920 So that the sellers have to keep dropping the prices to sell it because there's a lot of houses on the market 02:06:16.480 --> 02:06:19.980 Because a lot of people literally bailing out of our state 02:06:19.980 --> 02:06:25.800 It just feels like yeah, there's not a whole lot of future for people in new mexico. I hate to say it 02:06:25.800 --> 02:06:31.840 There's a lot of alcoholism. Maybe people people just wanting to escape what their family has been living through for generations 02:06:33.880 --> 02:06:35.680 Well, I don't know that I mean 02:06:36.160 --> 02:06:40.640 We're supposed to have more economy better. I guess it's the poverty 02:06:41.420 --> 02:06:45.540 Is that is that what causes everybody like there's a lot of alcoholism? 02:06:45.700 --> 02:06:48.760 Like you say a lot of addiction like a lot of 02:06:49.240 --> 02:06:52.640 Going to like doing a lot of drugs here 02:06:53.440 --> 02:06:53.800 marketing 02:06:54.560 --> 02:06:55.200 escapism 02:06:56.120 --> 02:06:59.520 Yeah, yeah escapism right right it's 02:07:00.500 --> 02:07:03.500 Helping tools a lot of these people use right users 02:07:03.500 --> 02:07:08.460 Um, they're using stuff to cope. Maybe they did like, you know what I mean with their realities 02:07:09.100 --> 02:07:11.340 Uh, so like it may be a disassociation 02:07:11.900 --> 02:07:14.120 Right, that's a cope. That's a way to cope with your 02:07:14.780 --> 02:07:16.040 current state, right 02:07:18.060 --> 02:07:22.160 Right escapism. Yeah, and that that um 02:07:22.720 --> 02:07:29.540 That kind of that narcotics. Um, it's like embedded in the culture too now 02:07:30.060 --> 02:07:35.800 You know, I mean because they've been doing it for so long that like generations after generations or 02:07:36.580 --> 02:07:42.600 When parents have done drugs and they teach their parents they learn from the and just keeps going down 02:07:43.640 --> 02:07:45.380 But I've never 02:07:45.380 --> 02:07:52.980 Did drugs so here but I I think the Mexico and Albuquerque is a really great place to live 02:07:52.980 --> 02:07:55.680 I I have I have no idea why they're bailing out 02:07:56.240 --> 02:08:03.380 Other than the fact that you could get hit by a car falling to school you get hit by a car riding a bike 02:08:04.080 --> 02:08:09.140 And that is like a really bad concern. What makes you feel it's a good place to live Sarah? 02:08:09.280 --> 02:08:10.420 I'm just interested because 02:08:11.040 --> 02:08:16.040 You often do say that you don't like certain things about it and you think the people there are stupid 02:08:16.040 --> 02:08:19.500 I'm just honestly. I want to know what you like about living there 02:08:20.540 --> 02:08:23.320 Well, the weather like um, I love it too 02:08:23.320 --> 02:08:29.200 It's going to be like um, what's 59 degrees for a high we had a that big storm 02:08:29.680 --> 02:08:36.940 Like the snow was melting in like three hours. We I think that we have really mild winters. Yeah. Oh, yeah 02:08:36.940 --> 02:08:43.840 Yeah, so the and you guys how was how did you you guys are up way up there? How did you handle that? 02:08:44.920 --> 02:08:49.240 We got a foot and a half of snow where we live and it's still on the ground 02:08:50.440 --> 02:08:56.760 Yeah, and it's bad up in New England. I mean, you guys get it, you know what I mean? 02:08:57.280 --> 02:09:00.600 so and it's very sunshiny here and then 02:09:01.320 --> 02:09:02.040 you know the 02:09:02.820 --> 02:09:07.760 Food is still pretty cheap and the buses are still um for free 02:09:08.360 --> 02:09:11.320 and the democrats run this day and 02:09:11.320 --> 02:09:17.180 Overall, it's got a lot of bad things, but it's not that bad. See I don't do drugs 02:09:17.750 --> 02:09:23.740 I don't involve myself with a lot of drug people or crazy people or 02:09:24.620 --> 02:09:29.960 I have learned not to go out of the house after dark as a woman in albuquerque 02:09:30.610 --> 02:09:32.220 You do not want to do that 02:09:32.220 --> 02:09:36.720 So after dark your asses inside the house, you know what I mean? 02:09:37.220 --> 02:09:39.280 So you're you're taking a big risk 02:09:40.090 --> 02:09:40.420 um 02:09:41.300 --> 02:09:44.660 For that but you get acclimated and then 02:09:45.380 --> 02:09:49.840 I've learned to do all my business like earlier in the morning from like that 02:09:49.840 --> 02:09:52.020 9 to like 1 p.m 02:09:52.020 --> 02:09:53.920 During the sleeping hours 02:09:55.060 --> 02:09:56.540 Yeah, yeah, well, I mean 02:09:57.180 --> 02:10:02.220 Yeah, yeah, that's where you got it all the tweaker. Yeah, everybody's got a high on drug 02:10:02.220 --> 02:10:06.340 They stay up all night long and they're still asleep and they start 02:10:07.060 --> 02:10:09.360 Getting up around like what noon or something 02:10:09.980 --> 02:10:12.440 Yep, and then they're back on the street looking for their next fix 02:10:14.660 --> 02:10:15.400 Cutting it down 02:10:16.480 --> 02:10:22.160 Yeah, why are they looked at they stay up all night long? They're like vampires, right? Because they're stimulants 02:10:22.160 --> 02:10:26.920 Yeah, stimulants, right? You got to think they get just enough drugs to get them through that day 02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:30.820 Especially if they're homeless they get just enough drugs to get them through that day 02:10:30.820 --> 02:10:32.620 They do them all night 02:10:33.300 --> 02:10:35.540 Eventually they crash because they run out of drugs 02:10:36.160 --> 02:10:40.820 And then once they get over their crash they get back up and go try to find more drugs 02:10:41.400 --> 02:10:42.420 For the day 02:10:42.420 --> 02:10:44.820 this it's a constant cycle of 02:10:45.760 --> 02:10:50.200 Searching to get high getting high running out searching to get high getting high running out 02:10:50.200 --> 02:10:53.200 And that's why they can't go to work or they can't see their kids 02:10:53.200 --> 02:10:58.420 Because it's just this vicious cycle of getting high coming down and then looking for your next high 02:10:58.420 --> 02:11:00.900 It never ends. That's all their life has become 02:11:02.160 --> 02:11:09.860 Yeah, all the nuts come out after like one p.m. And after three o'clock all that wish are all everybody comes out 02:11:10.580 --> 02:11:15.420 School and work after three five. I mean it just gets to be as I've learned 02:11:16.060 --> 02:11:21.020 Not to go out during that time. That's a very bad time to go out and do anything 02:11:21.620 --> 02:11:24.560 So it's a little better of an act, you know 02:11:25.140 --> 02:11:26.660 Like affirmation 02:11:27.310 --> 02:11:35.560 But overall I I just got used to that I just accepted a lot of things about the state and it's um 02:11:35.560 --> 02:11:41.840 A lot of things is bad, but every everywhere you go like you have sure you got really hard winners 02:11:42.540 --> 02:11:46.520 And I'm sure that you have other bad things that you got to put up with 02:11:46.520 --> 02:11:54.860 I don't know ticks. You guys got ticks. There's so many ticks. Oh, yeah 02:11:54.860 --> 02:11:57.860 You got good air quality. Well, we have humidity 02:11:57.860 --> 02:12:03.380 It's really humid in the summer and one thing I love about like new mexico, arizona, utah 02:12:03.840 --> 02:12:08.760 I love dry air even though I hate dry skin, but go ahead 02:12:09.540 --> 02:12:14.620 You don't like humidity. How come you don't like humidity because I have like insane hair 02:12:16.560 --> 02:12:19.920 Oh, but you know, it's very hard to breathe 02:12:20.480 --> 02:12:23.480 And you know, I think I think new mexico has 02:12:23.980 --> 02:12:29.120 If you have moisture in the air, it's really good for your nasal cavities and for your 02:12:29.700 --> 02:12:32.080 allergies and your lung sacs 02:12:32.080 --> 02:12:34.620 There's there would be a nice 02:12:35.280 --> 02:12:40.720 Middle ground that it's it feels like no state really encapsulates. It feels like California used to 02:12:40.720 --> 02:12:45.900 Oh, it feels like like most states are either really dry and it can get irritating, but I still prefer it 02:12:46.480 --> 02:12:51.160 Or really humid like New Hampshire. I didn't expect it to be really humid 02:12:51.160 --> 02:12:56.900 It is every like every end of the summer I'd say like I'll get or maybe like more like september 02:12:56.900 --> 02:13:04.540 You get some really perfect pristine days. Like the day I got married was like felt perfect outside september 25th 02:13:05.100 --> 02:13:07.380 But um, you know, it's just like I wish it was like that 24 02:13:07.380 --> 02:13:11.720 Yeah, I think fall fall is the superior season in new england. Yeah 02:13:11.720 --> 02:13:19.060 Yeah, basically fall new england is like the best as far as it's not going to be like really humid and it's not crazy dry 02:13:19.060 --> 02:13:23.720 Like it is right now. It's crazy dry or cold, right? You get that nice. It's like a nice 65 02:13:24.460 --> 02:13:26.680 Um light breeze not too humid 02:13:27.460 --> 02:13:34.920 Um, yeah falls the best. It is interesting that residents are fleeing a new mexico. Thanks for the call sarah 02:13:34.920 --> 02:13:40.640 thanks for bringing that in uh to our dungeon and uh the joke about I thought she was serious 02:13:40.640 --> 02:13:46.620 Honestly, it was fun. No, I mean even when I drove through new mexico of the past couple years. I mean there's billboards saying like 02:13:47.560 --> 02:13:52.160 Save new mexico's kids like not not save them as like they're getting like abused 02:13:52.160 --> 02:13:55.720 But like help keep new mexico kids in new mexico and like 02:13:55.720 --> 02:13:58.420 Have them go to school and work in new mexico 02:13:58.420 --> 02:14:00.980 Don't let all our top talent keep fleeing the state 02:14:00.980 --> 02:14:06.700 And I mean it's such an issue that they had to put the billboards on the interstate begging people to stay in new mexico 02:14:07.900 --> 02:14:08.380 Hmm 02:14:08.980 --> 02:14:12.640 Interesting. Yeah, I could see that happening in new hampshire 02:14:12.640 --> 02:14:16.520 But maybe the problem hasn't gotten quite too bad yet for no 02:14:16.520 --> 02:14:21.320 I think new hampshire has the opposite issue. They want to keep the massachusetts people out. They got 02:14:22.100 --> 02:14:26.680 They're sick of people moving here. I don't know about maybe like people in general 02:14:26.680 --> 02:14:30.140 But the chill like the children of free granite staters they leave 02:14:30.140 --> 02:14:35.800 Oh, okay, and they don't want their kids to go to other colleges and stuff and they have a hard time retaining them 02:14:35.800 --> 02:14:40.360 Maybe not to a degree that they'd quite yet put up a billboard about it 02:14:40.780 --> 02:14:43.080 I don't know but well, it's just hard. There's not a lot of 02:14:43.540 --> 02:14:47.740 Jobs to come back to in in the granite state really. Um, unless you're like 02:14:48.160 --> 02:14:50.000 Unless it's like a niche or yeah 02:14:50.500 --> 02:14:54.840 Tech or you work in boston, but in live in new hampshire, but 02:14:54.840 --> 02:14:59.340 But then you're just one of those you're just one of those mass people who you know what I mean 02:14:59.340 --> 02:15:03.640 You might as well just be a bostonian and live in you live in match or nashua 02:15:04.160 --> 02:15:10.220 Um, it's all been taken over by by the massachusetts folks anyways. Yeah awful and the government there is really bad 02:15:10.220 --> 02:15:13.200 Well, this is pretty interesting. Um 02:15:13.780 --> 02:15:20.300 Riley sent it in. Oh, uh, this might be the wrong article linked though, riley. Uh-oh my bad 02:15:20.920 --> 02:15:26.360 I clicked on what you what you wrote that apparently i ran government is digging graves for a us troop 02:15:26.360 --> 02:15:29.560 So if you guys talk for a second, I'll try to find an article about it 02:15:29.560 --> 02:15:32.480 Okay, what does the headline actually say because maybe I 02:15:32.930 --> 02:15:39.660 This says i ran. Oh, sorry iranians rally in australia chanting against supreme leader. Oh, okay 02:15:40.640 --> 02:15:43.800 But that i mean if that's true that's uh 02:15:45.120 --> 02:15:50.660 Building graves for us soldiers you think we're gonna send you in soldiers. We'll just drown them 02:15:51.210 --> 02:15:57.540 That's a good point. This seems like an interesting tactic to try to scare americans like a deterrent 02:15:57.540 --> 02:15:59.560 Yeah, but I don't think it's gonna work, but 02:16:00.400 --> 02:16:03.060 Wait, what this is from august 02:16:05.400 --> 02:16:05.900 2010 02:16:07.000 --> 02:16:07.500 Oh 02:16:08.100 --> 02:16:11.260 Whoa, I mean, i'm not saying that the thing that you saw today that 02:16:11.940 --> 02:16:15.820 Like that you sent it in about was necessarily from 2010 02:16:15.820 --> 02:16:21.740 But the first thing that actually popped up when I typed in iran digging mass graves to us troops that actually was that 02:16:21.740 --> 02:16:23.820 Some things were like a facebook 02:16:24.680 --> 02:16:25.680 post and 02:16:26.260 --> 02:16:30.440 Was from 2010 but that's kind of like the tactic with all I ran 02:16:31.120 --> 02:16:32.180 scare mongering news 02:16:32.180 --> 02:16:38.640 So still something to talk about all fear mongering against I ran news is cyclical. They'll be telling us 02:16:39.150 --> 02:16:41.360 10 or 15 years from now 02:16:42.120 --> 02:16:48.300 Oh, I think for real this time. I ran is close to getting nuclear warheads. Yeah, we gotta go bomb them 02:16:48.300 --> 02:16:51.860 You know, I learned something crazy about Iran the other day that 02:16:51.860 --> 02:16:52.800 um 02:16:53.300 --> 02:16:57.540 The during the Armenian genocide of the coppic christians 02:16:58.200 --> 02:17:04.340 By the Turks funded by the Turks at least which inherit which in turn is us because you know, we give them money 02:17:04.980 --> 02:17:07.220 But during the yeah, yeah turkey 02:17:07.760 --> 02:17:10.660 um, but uh, I ran took in like 02:17:11.460 --> 02:17:14.180 a couple hundred thousand coppic christians and 02:17:14.180 --> 02:17:19.100 They haven't they didn't they've been very kind to them and like helped them a lot 02:17:19.920 --> 02:17:20.320 um 02:17:20.880 --> 02:17:24.480 Which doesn't sound like a bunch of christian murdering psychopaths 02:17:24.480 --> 02:17:31.100 Right, like why they let in 300,000? I'm not 300,000, but at least a few hundred thousand refugees from Armenia 02:17:31.560 --> 02:17:37.000 With open arms. Yeah, but they won't take in the palestinians. What it what is going on in Palestine? 02:17:37.900 --> 02:17:38.780 Hmm interesting 02:17:38.780 --> 02:17:42.940 I mean I I like a lot of the stuff I hear from I ran and I follow 02:17:42.940 --> 02:17:48.340 multiple people on the internet that live in Iran and I've learned such cool stuff about them like 02:17:48.340 --> 02:17:51.940 They have a 4,000 year old cypress tree. They keep 02:17:51.940 --> 02:17:57.720 Uh, you know the grounds nice around and people will go visit it that they say was planted by Zoroaster 02:17:58.340 --> 02:17:59.320 Oh, that's cool 02:17:59.960 --> 02:18:00.440 Zora 02:18:01.080 --> 02:18:02.260 Yeah, it'd be Zoroaster 02:18:04.460 --> 02:18:07.560 Is Zoroaster the religion he made in Zoro through straw? 02:18:08.180 --> 02:18:14.320 Yes, is the guy's name right? Yes, that sounds about right Zora through straw. Maybe that's not exactly right thus spoke 02:18:14.960 --> 02:18:16.740 Zora through straw. Is that it? 02:18:17.860 --> 02:18:18.900 Maybe anyways 02:18:19.740 --> 02:18:26.480 Well, and that's just crazy because the I man this I think the this goes back to like the CIA made these radicalized groups 02:18:27.200 --> 02:18:30.200 Right, and now they go through places like Iraq where they're in power 02:18:30.820 --> 02:18:32.900 Um, and they blow up Zoroastrian 02:18:33.580 --> 02:18:41.160 Stuff and destroy that history. Um, I just don't know it's not I don't know if the Ayatollah of Iran is like 02:18:41.820 --> 02:18:47.920 I mean, they're bad. I don't agree with Islam, but I definitely I'm starting to doubt that they're as awful as 02:18:49.180 --> 02:18:53.500 We're trying to make them out to be which group the Iranians. Yeah, exactly 02:18:53.500 --> 02:18:58.220 The radicals are you know, yeah radical like it's crazy 02:18:58.220 --> 02:19:03.820 But the most I mean the majority of Iranians don't even want to be radical Islam Islamists 02:19:03.820 --> 02:19:06.300 And they still celebrate holidays that 02:19:06.860 --> 02:19:08.240 They had around before 02:19:08.920 --> 02:19:15.420 Um Islam showed up and they've really hold on to it and like the Ayatollah and their government in general 02:19:15.920 --> 02:19:19.880 Really would like them to just forget about that stuff and just be full Muslim 02:19:19.880 --> 02:19:22.340 And they've been holding up for a really long time like these are 02:19:22.860 --> 02:19:29.500 Really cool people. I like that's like the Assyrians are from there, right? Yeah, the Assyrian people the 02:19:30.420 --> 02:19:31.380 weird like 02:19:32.520 --> 02:19:34.480 cylindrical clump of clay that 02:19:35.040 --> 02:19:38.240 Cyrus the great wrote on and it was something that inspired 02:19:39.000 --> 02:19:43.080 The American first the Magna Carta and also the American 02:19:43.720 --> 02:19:47.060 Documents, I forget what's called right now, but Cyrus the great 02:19:47.800 --> 02:19:50.200 Maybe it's just cylinder of Cyrus the great 02:19:50.720 --> 02:19:54.940 um, he wrote about you know being fair to each other and 02:19:55.680 --> 02:19:55.980 governing 02:19:56.660 --> 02:19:59.900 In a fair way way ahead of his time 02:19:59.900 --> 02:20:04.560 But it's that that little slab or whatever you want to call it the cylinder it's in 02:20:05.020 --> 02:20:07.520 The uk because it's safer there 02:20:08.000 --> 02:20:11.480 Yeah, I would think it's safer there. Everybody gets so mad about they were like 02:20:11.480 --> 02:20:17.560 There's that tomb that they rebuilt or that building they rebuilt in the uk that people got really mad about 02:20:18.180 --> 02:20:22.320 Um, and they like took it like Egyptian one or something. No, I'm pretty sure it's like a Middle Eastern one 02:20:22.320 --> 02:20:24.880 It's like if they hadn't had done that it would have been 02:20:24.880 --> 02:20:27.580 Blowed up or destroyed or ripped apart 02:20:28.220 --> 02:20:31.600 Or hidden. I mean almost like what did the Catholics do they went through and 02:20:32.260 --> 02:20:36.900 Gathered all this stuff and hid it or destroyed it right under the Vatican. Yeah, that sucks 02:20:37.600 --> 02:20:39.160 um, and I'm not just saying like 02:20:39.840 --> 02:20:43.820 The iranians themselves couldn't take care of it. It's just that they're always, you know in fights 02:20:43.820 --> 02:20:48.440 Like Muslims are always in fights. Another thing they have that is really cool is 02:20:49.160 --> 02:20:49.640 a 02:20:50.300 --> 02:20:53.700 fire that's been lit and never gone out for 02:20:53.700 --> 02:20:59.120 Like 1,000 something years. I don't remember who it was that was supposed to have lit it 02:20:59.120 --> 02:21:02.840 It's a lot of time. So cool. I really like that 02:21:03.620 --> 02:21:04.060 so 02:21:04.540 --> 02:21:05.580 I don't know. I just 02:21:06.040 --> 02:21:11.100 I like to think about the good things about iran the like the massive amounts of 02:21:12.380 --> 02:21:13.900 Good they brought to civilization 02:21:14.420 --> 02:21:19.640 And I don't and I like to bring that up because it's just like don't listen to they them and those 02:21:20.260 --> 02:21:21.080 trying to 02:21:22.620 --> 02:21:26.320 Get you to hate into a new war. See what I'm saying? Yeah 02:21:26.320 --> 02:21:32.760 I really don't want us to just be like, okay Israel will go to every war you want us to go into and 02:21:32.760 --> 02:21:35.700 Trump seems to be ready to go into this war 02:21:36.380 --> 02:21:42.680 But it might be quid pro quo, right because Trump's trying to build this technique, but he he needs 02:21:43.680 --> 02:21:48.920 Things like massage in order to get it done. So sure we'll go into iran, but you have to help me secure greenland 02:21:49.840 --> 02:21:53.800 In venezuela like it's like, you know what I mean? We're gonna help each other out build this 02:21:54.360 --> 02:21:57.260 Uh greater israel slash greater america 02:21:57.860 --> 02:22:02.660 Um project, right? I think it's just the extension the empires here 02:22:03.160 --> 02:22:04.700 Yeah, the republic is gone 02:22:05.220 --> 02:22:08.400 So I think we're just seeing the empire fight with the communists 02:22:08.920 --> 02:22:13.540 What do you think will they die out like the roman empire did the roman empire ever actually die out? 02:22:13.540 --> 02:22:16.860 More free talk live coming up bring up whatever's on your mind 02:22:17.660 --> 02:22:21.800 603 283 61 60 it's free talk live 02:22:24.920 --> 02:22:28.920 Hey, you are going to love the movie victimless crime spree 02:22:28.920 --> 02:22:34.320 It's hilarious heartwarming and carries a ton of inspiring freedom messages 02:22:34.320 --> 02:22:37.440 Feeling down about the lack of liberty in your life 02:22:37.440 --> 02:22:41.400 You need to put on this film with some friends and have a good laugh 02:22:41.400 --> 02:22:45.280 It's a true story about me and my friends in new hampshire living free 02:22:45.280 --> 02:22:48.880 Singing dancing and getting arrested of course 02:22:48.880 --> 02:22:53.620 It's all on video and the bad guys the cops judges bailiffs and sheriffs 02:22:53.620 --> 02:22:56.380 They all play their part like it's out of a movie or something 02:22:56.920 --> 02:23:00.120 You would think we scripted the whole thing, but it's real life 02:23:00.120 --> 02:23:04.120 Go ahead and have a watch and if it's been a while have another look 02:23:04.120 --> 02:23:07.960 I guarantee you'll notice things now that you didn't notice before 02:23:07.960 --> 02:23:14.540 And the best part is that you're going to walk away feeling a renewed sense of your own power 02:23:15.100 --> 02:23:21.700 You are the master of your destiny and you will be free in your lifetime 02:23:22.480 --> 02:23:24.180 Victimless crime spree 02:23:25.020 --> 02:23:28.600 From feature story news in washington i'm tony waterman 02:23:28.600 --> 02:23:35.620 According to new york time sources president donald trump is reviewing an option to send american forces 02:23:35.620 --> 02:23:38.180 Into iran to carry out raids 02:23:38.180 --> 02:23:43.940 It's unclear if those raids would target government officials or even the supreme leader 02:23:43.940 --> 02:23:51.460 The option carries new weight after us forces captured venezuelan president nicolas maduro earlier this month 02:23:51.460 --> 02:23:57.020 A strike fleet has already been positioned near iran and us officials say the military 02:23:57.320 --> 02:24:00.360 Is ready to carry out any orders from the president 02:24:00.360 --> 02:24:05.620 Trump is demanding iran end its nuclear program and stop killing demonstrators 02:24:05.620 --> 02:24:14.480 If it wants to avoid u.s military action iran's foreign minister said on friday that iran will not negotiate under threat 02:24:14.480 --> 02:24:18.080 And that its defense system will never be up for negotiation 02:24:19.100 --> 02:24:25.380 President trump has nominated kevin wash a banking executive to head the u.s central bank 02:24:25.380 --> 02:24:33.220 Wash was widely expected to secure the nod and is believed to share the president's desire to see u.s interest rates fall 02:24:33.220 --> 02:24:36.620 More rapidly fsn's simon marx reports 02:24:37.940 --> 02:24:45.520 President trump has been hinting for days at the possibility that kevin wash is his choice to replace jerome powell as the chairman of the fed 02:24:45.520 --> 02:24:48.940 Now he's confirmed it over his social media account 02:24:48.940 --> 02:24:53.820 The president said he expects mr. Wash to go down as one of the great fed chairman 02:24:53.820 --> 02:25:00.360 May be the best the president described his selection as coming from central casting a possible reference to mr 02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:04.640 Wash's clean cut professional appearance, but also to his background 02:25:04.640 --> 02:25:09.360 He's a former fed governor and a senior figure at the investment bank morgan stanley 02:25:09.360 --> 02:25:15.680 Certainly president trump is hoping that mr. Wash will prove loyal to his demands for lower interest rates 02:25:15.680 --> 02:25:19.880 Though when the president's selection faces confirmation hearings on capitol hill 02:25:19.880 --> 02:25:24.560 Many lawmakers will want to know whether he's willing to protect the central bank's independence 02:25:24.560 --> 02:25:27.640 Or make it a political arm of the trump administration 02:25:28.360 --> 02:25:35.600 Former cnn anchor don lemond is in custody after being arrested in connection with his reporting during the recent 02:25:35.970 --> 02:25:41.620 Minneapolis ice protests the 59 year old's lawyer says mr. Lemond has done nothing wrong 02:25:41.620 --> 02:25:46.280 And insists he is protected by the first amendment of the u.s constitution 02:25:47.060 --> 02:25:48.820 FSN's mitch mccann reports 02:25:49.480 --> 02:25:53.600 The charges that the justice department chose to file were not immediately clear 02:25:53.600 --> 02:25:56.820 But don lemond's lawyer says they will be fought vigorously in court 02:25:56.820 --> 02:26:02.200 The former tv anchor was arrested in los angeles on thursday where he was there to cover the grammy awards 02:26:02.200 --> 02:26:07.740 It's reported the arrest is in relation to mr. Lemond's coverage of an ice protest that took place inside a 02:26:07.740 --> 02:26:09.360 Minneapolis church in recent weeks 02:26:09.360 --> 02:26:15.940 It's reported that following the protest a federal judge initially declined to sign off on an arrest warrant for mr. Lemond 02:26:15.940 --> 02:26:18.900 Former colleagues and lawmakers have defended the broadcaster 02:26:19.640 --> 02:26:23.360 From bureau's worldwide, this is at the san 02:26:25.800 --> 02:26:33.820 Yep, we still do email drop your email address in the entry box at freetalklive.com and you'll be kept in the loop with freetalk live 02:26:35.300 --> 02:27:04.010 That you control and that means that you can call 603 283 02:27:04.010 --> 02:27:09.250 616 0 that's 603 283 616 02:27:10.090 --> 02:27:15.190 0 to bring up whatever is on your mind and get in on the conversation with us 02:27:15.190 --> 02:27:18.250 With you on freetalk live. You've got me bonnie 02:27:18.810 --> 02:27:20.230 angelo rilio bill 02:27:20.910 --> 02:27:22.950 and in the last segment 02:27:23.730 --> 02:27:24.750 we were talking about 02:27:25.650 --> 02:27:28.250 The whole thing about iran 02:27:28.770 --> 02:27:33.530 Being a boogeyman all the time and they'll bring up. Oh, they're good. They're just about to 02:27:34.670 --> 02:27:40.250 Be able to make nukes. I just know they're just about to you all the time. Well. Oh, yeah, they do it all the time 02:27:40.250 --> 02:27:43.850 It's possibly possible. We just found out some new recycled 02:27:44.570 --> 02:27:48.090 news that i ran dug mass graves for soldiers 02:27:48.090 --> 02:27:50.050 It's a really good point angelo that 02:27:50.470 --> 02:27:54.870 Why would they waste their time doing that when we if we were going to go kill a bunch of iranians? 02:27:55.010 --> 02:28:00.030 We I mean if the us was going to go kill a bunch of iranians, they'd likely send drones or just airplanes 02:28:00.030 --> 02:28:03.190 I mean, yeah, how much money does the us air force have? 02:28:04.030 --> 02:28:09.130 We got to spend it got to use it. Um, it's air superiority. Do they have who knows? 02:28:09.850 --> 02:28:17.050 Well that fake money built very real missiles. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So, um, even if the money's fake the weapons are real and 02:28:17.050 --> 02:28:23.470 My question though is use them. What's the firepower of the iranian and military like compared to us? 02:28:23.570 --> 02:28:27.270 Apparently nothing because we smoked them in eight days the last time 02:28:28.110 --> 02:28:28.630 Okay 02:28:29.430 --> 02:28:31.810 We blew up all their air defenses and then 02:28:32.490 --> 02:28:32.770 dropped 02:28:34.010 --> 02:28:35.090 moabs on their 02:28:35.790 --> 02:28:40.130 Of nuclear facilities and they could do nothing about it. So I mean, I don't know 02:28:40.130 --> 02:28:45.850 We had zero us planes hit and we blew up a bunch of their stuff. So we won 02:28:47.830 --> 02:28:56.150 Wow, well, I honestly never we got we went into a war with iran when like over the summer this summer. Yeah 02:28:56.930 --> 02:29:01.830 About oh, oh, yes. Okay. Yeah, we bombed them. We did we went to war really did go away really fast 02:29:01.830 --> 02:29:04.030 With our airplanes. That's how fast it was. Yeah 02:29:04.030 --> 02:29:08.550 I forgot about that and there was like pictures or 12 day war. I think they called it whatever it was 02:29:08.550 --> 02:29:09.770 I mean, we were in and out 02:29:09.770 --> 02:29:13.090 It was pretty quick because during the forkfest and forkfest season 02:29:13.090 --> 02:29:18.910 Yes, during fork and forkfest this year. Me and Riley never had a shortage of stuff to talk about was crazy 02:29:18.910 --> 02:29:19.550 Oh, yeah 02:29:19.550 --> 02:29:28.050 Um, and there were that there were those videos that seemed people later pointed out were probably fake of israeli cities with 02:29:28.710 --> 02:29:31.390 Just like bombs falling all over if you're up on a high 02:29:32.350 --> 02:29:38.230 High enough, you know, I wonder how much of that is like recycled. You know how many videos I've seen rockets over televieve 02:29:38.230 --> 02:29:40.050 And they all look like the exact same video 02:29:41.190 --> 02:29:45.250 Yeah, and it's just like why are you so calm just standing out on your balcony? I'd be I mean 02:29:45.750 --> 02:29:49.610 That's what they want you to think like we're just so oppressed that this happens all the time 02:29:49.610 --> 02:29:52.790 But also the ones in tear on looked kind of fake too. Well, that's the thing 02:29:52.790 --> 02:29:55.370 They want you to think there's you know 02:29:55.370 --> 02:30:00.350 Something really serious going on to at least freak you out and in uh, well, what do you think about that? 02:30:01.170 --> 02:30:05.090 Venezuelan guy who said that the u.s. Used hypersonic weapon a hypersonic 02:30:05.670 --> 02:30:11.450 Weapon that made like a burst and made everybody like a like a wave like a wave gun that made 02:30:12.290 --> 02:30:16.050 The Venezuelan soldiers start bleeding from their ears and their nose 02:30:16.050 --> 02:30:20.050 You're saying this was happened when he was down there just now. Yeah, yeah when trump winding 02:30:20.050 --> 02:30:24.450 Yeah, when trump went and got maduro it was one of their kernels there supposedly 02:30:25.010 --> 02:30:29.290 There was a leaked letter or something and he said the us hit us with an energy weapon 02:30:29.290 --> 02:30:33.410 It made our eyes and nose bleed and we all got super confused 02:30:34.050 --> 02:30:36.850 um, and the soldiers the us was not 02:30:37.330 --> 02:30:42.190 Hurt by this and they just moved like ghosts in the night in between us and there was nothing we could do 02:30:42.190 --> 02:30:46.090 What um, it says the discombobulator 02:30:46.650 --> 02:30:49.270 Did us use secret weapon and maduro abduction? 02:30:49.550 --> 02:30:53.190 And you know only about a year ago trump was bragging 02:30:53.770 --> 02:30:58.610 That and we covered it on freetalk live that we have weapons. You guys don't even know exist 02:30:58.610 --> 02:31:01.850 We have weapons that would blow your mind like kind of so think about this 02:31:02.530 --> 02:31:04.290 Maduro changed his clothes 02:31:04.870 --> 02:31:07.030 They changed his outfit like five times 02:31:07.690 --> 02:31:10.630 Right in between his plane rides. Yeah, and why did he have the ear? 02:31:11.190 --> 02:31:17.490 The ear plug the ear coverings and the eye coverings on it all the pictures with different outfits. I think he kept bleeding 02:31:18.210 --> 02:31:19.870 From his eyes and his ears 02:31:20.470 --> 02:31:24.750 Onto the clothes he was wearing so they had to keep giving him new clothes as he got switched off planes 02:31:24.750 --> 02:31:30.550 That's wild. We do have a collar on the line. So I want to go to the phones uber george in virginia 02:31:30.550 --> 02:31:32.570 You're on freetalk live. What's on your mind? 02:31:33.350 --> 02:31:33.710 uh 02:31:34.310 --> 02:31:38.430 Sorry to change the subject from whoever's having this stigma out of there, but um 02:31:38.430 --> 02:31:45.050 Yeah, apparently tsa now is going to be charging people 45 dollars to go through security 02:31:45.630 --> 02:31:46.890 If you don't have real id 02:31:47.570 --> 02:31:52.690 Yes, you can link on on twitter excellent. Yes. No actually bonnie. You're the one who 02:31:53.690 --> 02:31:58.790 I found this out a secondhand information from you wait just that they're going to start charging 02:31:58.790 --> 02:32:01.910 No, yeah that you had to pay like 50 bucks to fly without a real id 02:32:01.910 --> 02:32:04.330 They haven't told me that yet when you said that 02:32:04.330 --> 02:32:08.490 Well, I guess ellsberg told me that you said something about you just had to pay 50 bucks to fly 02:32:08.490 --> 02:32:11.970 No, no, no, no, I when I flew last they didn't do anything to me 02:32:11.970 --> 02:32:14.910 And I didn't have real id except question me and annoy me 02:32:14.910 --> 02:32:18.170 But I maybe I saw that it could happen or something 02:32:18.170 --> 02:32:21.710 But I did not get confirmation it was happening either way. I'm not paying it 02:32:21.710 --> 02:32:27.210 Like if I fly anytime soon, I want to get the ticket so I cannot pay it 02:32:27.210 --> 02:32:32.710 I love you fun tickets again. Yeah, it would what do you think uber george? What do you think about it? 02:32:33.270 --> 02:32:37.970 Yeah, I think it's I think it's just stupid money grab is what it is right there 02:32:37.970 --> 02:32:42.590 But in my case, I got a passport. So I was like, it's not like I'm worried about it right there 02:32:42.590 --> 02:32:47.590 I got the one of you have a passport. I don't know. So I just fly without a 02:32:48.850 --> 02:32:54.650 Without real id. Yeah, I'm yeah, I haven't my family wasn't fancy. We never left the country 02:32:54.650 --> 02:33:00.210 Yeah, I got I went to disneyland once and we had to say for 10 years for it last time that I um 02:33:00.210 --> 02:33:05.890 Went on a plane was november. So I they were saying that it was required 02:33:06.450 --> 02:33:09.250 But all they did was like I said question me like where you going? 02:33:09.470 --> 02:33:09.810 Where you gonna? 02:33:10.170 --> 02:33:16.690 I don't know just like you got family there stuff like that and uh, they rubbed my hands with this little brush type thing 02:33:16.690 --> 02:33:20.510 That kind of like spongy brush thing and it's to check for bomb 02:33:21.530 --> 02:33:26.650 Yeah, the etd. That's what they call it the short for explosive trace detections 02:33:26.650 --> 02:33:30.510 Which you know, it's going to be a whole lot more false positives in a winter time 02:33:30.510 --> 02:33:34.290 You know because a lot of times that rock salt and stuff that you think you know 02:33:34.290 --> 02:33:34.810 D. I said 02:33:34.810 --> 02:33:42.370 Driveways and sidewalks and stuff that that um sits off those machines all the time. Oh my god, that's crazy 02:33:42.370 --> 02:33:45.310 Yeah, I love that love the bureaucracy. Shout out government 02:33:45.990 --> 02:33:47.990 No, thanks for that daddy 02:33:47.990 --> 02:33:52.350 I don't want you like when you get to the airport, you know, if you're flying in the winter time 02:33:52.350 --> 02:33:54.210 Wash your hands thoroughly 02:33:54.670 --> 02:33:59.930 Right there at the very minimum. I mean if they if they check your luggage, you know 02:34:00.530 --> 02:34:05.110 You might be asked a while there if you're using the pool luggage with the wheels and stuff like that 02:34:06.350 --> 02:34:07.670 Yeah, right there, but 02:34:08.330 --> 02:34:13.010 Other than that, uh, but you should get a passport man. There's a great big world out there 02:34:13.010 --> 02:34:14.430 I mean even even been to japan 02:34:15.650 --> 02:34:19.030 Yeah, I just haven't I've been meaning to get around to it. I've just been 02:34:19.030 --> 02:34:20.450 I mean the last five years 02:34:20.450 --> 02:34:24.470 I've just been spent traveling the united states because I mean this place is bigger than europe 02:34:24.470 --> 02:34:29.090 So like there's so many different things to see and biomes do experience from 02:34:29.090 --> 02:34:34.650 Like rainforest in washington to the beaches of florida and the deserts and the mountains in between like 02:34:34.650 --> 02:34:39.890 I know I was like honestly so shocked that I was on a beach in alabama a beautiful awesome island 02:34:39.890 --> 02:34:45.730 With nice beaches and it's the sunset capital of alabama and I I didn't know it existed until my parents 02:34:45.730 --> 02:34:47.690 Well, I knew it existed when I was younger 02:34:47.690 --> 02:34:52.670 But for some reason I thought it was the name of a town and it wasn't actually an island honestly 02:34:52.670 --> 02:34:53.270 That's what I thought 02:34:53.750 --> 02:34:54.990 It was awesome 02:34:55.430 --> 02:35:01.530 Anyways, oh, yeah, there's I mean, yeah, the us is so beautiful. I think like people don't take advantage of 02:35:01.530 --> 02:35:04.070 Of of the country that we live in yeah 02:35:04.070 --> 02:35:08.510 For it's just gorgeous. Yeah, a lot of people would like be like, yeah 02:35:08.510 --> 02:35:11.670 I want to see the us then see the rest of the world and I'm kind of like the opposite 02:35:11.670 --> 02:35:15.310 I kind of want to see all as much of the world I can and then you know 02:35:15.310 --> 02:35:19.730 Go to see or more of the us if I can't go to certain other countries and stuff like that 02:35:19.730 --> 02:35:25.050 I have been thinking that I want to see europe before we before it gets blown up again 02:35:25.050 --> 02:35:29.810 Yeah, because that's that's the trend that it seems to be headed for 02:35:29.810 --> 02:35:33.630 Um, I'd start with Italy if I were you roman's beautiful and the food is phenomenal 02:35:33.630 --> 02:35:37.570 Yeah, I was thinking like prog because it's a little cheaper like to start with 02:35:37.570 --> 02:35:42.850 Um, because I mean it was the capital of like the holy robot empire for a thousand years and sure enough 02:35:42.850 --> 02:35:48.150 Well, there's a lot of like culture that isn't talked about and and the check republics pretty cheap to like get to 02:35:48.810 --> 02:35:51.910 Well, no, uh, I just may sound like a plug 02:35:51.910 --> 02:35:56.990 But if you're gonna go to europe, I guess try flying iceland there right there because it's usually the cheapest and you can get a 02:35:56.990 --> 02:36:03.270 Free um, a couple of stopover in iceland to check that out too. Like oh, that sounds cool going on the way back 02:36:03.270 --> 02:36:08.630 That's what I did when I went to amsterdam. I took a two night stopover and and rake of egg on the way back 02:36:08.630 --> 02:36:09.990 So I could see iceland as well 02:36:10.490 --> 02:36:13.030 I bet it is really nice that because I've seen 02:36:13.590 --> 02:36:17.550 Justin Bieber music video filmed in iceland and it was so 02:36:18.150 --> 02:36:19.530 incredible looking and also 02:36:20.150 --> 02:36:26.630 Um, like I got obsessed with bjork last year and I was looking at bison. I was like this place is crazy like really weird 02:36:27.330 --> 02:36:30.150 biomes like like like you brought up like um, you know 02:36:31.950 --> 02:36:36.170 Different biodiversity. Yeah. Oh, yeah, they have like oh here is a desert 02:36:36.710 --> 02:36:42.870 Here's just like a salt bed and here is also just like something else that doesn't seem like it all go together 02:36:42.870 --> 02:36:49.050 All touching like coming together and it looks like from if you go up on a plane it'll look like almost like a video game app 02:36:49.590 --> 02:36:54.550 We're like the biomes all meet at different areas and are literally like different colors bright different colors 02:36:54.550 --> 02:37:00.570 Thanks for letting us know about that uber george. I really do encourage people not to pay the fine because what are they gonna do? 02:37:01.430 --> 02:37:03.450 What are they gonna do? Well, if you 02:37:04.110 --> 02:37:06.090 If you fly regularly 02:37:06.790 --> 02:37:07.630 like for work 02:37:08.250 --> 02:37:12.270 Um, eventually they could probably just like arrest you at the airport for not paying them 02:37:12.270 --> 02:37:14.750 What are they gonna do if nobody pays this fine? 02:37:16.690 --> 02:37:23.230 Um, well, they're gonna brutalize the first couple people that don't and then if enough people don't then they'll quit 02:37:23.230 --> 02:37:26.650 I don't think that they can justify brutalizing people over 50 bucks 02:37:26.650 --> 02:37:30.570 Like well, they might not like beat you but they could totally like well not if it's 50 bucks 02:37:30.570 --> 02:37:35.130 But if it's if you go to court and you say I want to stay the night in jail 02:37:35.590 --> 02:37:36.830 And I'm not going to pay it 02:37:37.490 --> 02:37:40.270 They most of time won't put you in jail because it makes them look bad 02:37:40.970 --> 02:37:44.150 And $50 is less than the amount you get for well is that the ticket? 02:37:45.310 --> 02:37:48.210 That's what he said 50 dollars. Well, that's the fee 02:37:48.210 --> 02:37:51.810 I mean if you don't if you don't pay it, they'll just won't let you on the plane 02:37:52.290 --> 02:37:55.590 Yeah, I guess that's a good point if that if you have to do it for work, but it's like 02:37:56.890 --> 02:37:58.370 But I mean they just won't let you on the plane 02:37:58.370 --> 02:38:03.670 I don't expect them average nor me who flies from one office building to the next to be doing activism 02:38:03.670 --> 02:38:07.210 And no, I get that but I'm saying like if you don't if you don't give them the money 02:38:07.210 --> 02:38:10.030 They probably just won't let you board they'll just be like no goodbye 02:38:10.030 --> 02:38:14.750 But if enough people don't do it, I think that they will push back like that's what you don't get your money 02:38:14.750 --> 02:38:20.570 You don't get your money back, um from the booking that way like the airlines gotten paid the tsa's gotten paid 02:38:20.570 --> 02:38:23.270 They don't care if you get on the plane or not that is pretty crazy 02:38:23.270 --> 02:38:26.610 If they won't give you your money back for the flight and they didn't let you on 02:38:26.610 --> 02:38:32.630 I I don't know if that's what can happen. I haven't seen anything like I'm pretty sure of tsi tsa denies your boarding 02:38:32.630 --> 02:38:37.710 I don't think you can get a refund that sounds crazy. Like I I don't know that that's true 02:38:37.710 --> 02:38:44.230 But I'm not saying it's false either like that seems not right because if they deny your you're boarding for something 02:38:44.230 --> 02:38:47.290 You weren't well, you shouldn't have charged me for it before that 02:38:47.290 --> 02:38:51.210 Like I'm pretty sure you could at least take that to court not that that wouldn't also be expensive 02:38:51.810 --> 02:38:52.890 I'm not going to pay the fine 02:38:53.710 --> 02:38:55.550 I prefer to drive 02:38:56.350 --> 02:39:01.710 If my parents lived any closer, I wouldn't have had to fly at all last year. Yeah 02:39:01.710 --> 02:39:06.390 Yeah, oh, I guess you are generally entitled a refund a refund 02:39:07.040 --> 02:39:12.030 From the airline for the unused portion of your ticket rather than accepting a rebooking. Hmm 02:39:12.620 --> 02:39:18.150 They must issue refunds within seven business days. Okay, so I guess they do have to give you their money back 02:39:18.150 --> 02:39:19.370 We have seen tsa 02:39:20.150 --> 02:39:23.310 scale back after years of people not complying 02:39:23.310 --> 02:39:26.870 I really am interested in this sonic weapon, but um 02:39:27.430 --> 02:39:28.750 I didn't understand the 02:39:29.270 --> 02:39:35.670 Joke that uber george made when he came in about like seemed like something to do with like maybe a movie with the sonic weapon use 02:39:35.670 --> 02:39:36.650 Yeah, I don't know any meant 02:39:37.210 --> 02:39:42.370 You seem to laugh at it. I just uh, I thought he was just making fun of me for being a conspiracy theorist 02:39:42.370 --> 02:39:46.370 Oh, okay. Maybe just like smirked. I was just like, okay, buddy. I thought it was a joke about 02:39:46.370 --> 02:39:51.690 Um, I thought was a joke about like maybe something like this happens in a movie. Okay 02:39:52.210 --> 02:39:58.290 I could it is pretty fantastical. It sounds like something from a movie. Yeah, like not x-men. Um, the one where the men in black 02:39:58.290 --> 02:39:59.810 It seems like men in black or something like that 02:40:00.510 --> 02:40:03.370 So this is from al jazeera only six days ago 02:40:03.890 --> 02:40:08.350 The discombobulator did us use secret weapon in maduro abduction 02:40:08.350 --> 02:40:13.810 US president donald trump refers to a sonic weapon. He describes as a discombobulator 02:40:14.970 --> 02:40:16.570 Trump referred to it 02:40:17.590 --> 02:40:19.070 But what is he talking about? 02:40:21.090 --> 02:40:22.550 I'm looking at the picture here 02:40:23.410 --> 02:40:26.510 It says venezuelan defense minister valadimir 02:40:27.410 --> 02:40:29.310 Padrino Lopez, right 02:40:29.810 --> 02:40:34.830 greets cuban foreign minister bruno rodriguez padilla on january 8th 02:40:34.830 --> 02:40:39.230 2026 after he was presented with an award for recognizing the cubans 02:40:39.230 --> 02:40:45.910 Killed during the u.s. Operation to abduct venezuelan president. Nicola nicolas maduro. So somebody did get hurt 02:40:45.910 --> 02:40:49.290 I thought they said there was no u.s. Fatalities. No, it says cubans 02:40:49.970 --> 02:40:53.870 Oh, the cubans killed while trying to defend maduro. Okay. Okay 02:40:54.510 --> 02:40:57.750 Oh, I didn't hear about the cubans to be honest either. That's so sad 02:40:58.830 --> 02:41:04.470 Venezuela's defense minister has accused the united states of using the country as a weapons laboratory 02:41:04.990 --> 02:41:06.850 during the abduction of president 02:41:06.850 --> 02:41:11.580 Nicholas maduro and his wife cilia flores on january 3rd 02:41:12.190 --> 02:41:15.430 Vladimir padrino lopez said last week that the u.s. Had used 02:41:15.430 --> 02:41:20.870 Venezuela as a testing ground for advanced military technologies that rely on artificial intelligence 02:41:21.460 --> 02:41:24.470 and weaponry never used before according to 02:41:25.200 --> 02:41:29.610 The venezuelan newspaper l universal there we go l universal 02:41:30.710 --> 02:41:36.050 On sunday u.s. President donald trump told the new york post that u.s. Forces had indeed used a weapon 02:41:36.050 --> 02:41:40.210 He referred to as the discombobulator. Oh my gosh 02:41:40.670 --> 02:41:45.490 No, why isn't this why isn't everybody talking about this? I'm not allowed to talk about it. He said okay 02:41:45.490 --> 02:41:50.730 That's why nobody's talking about it. I think but still as ridiculous. What do you mean? You're not allowed to talk about it and you are 02:41:51.450 --> 02:41:56.450 Uh, he said adding that the weapon made equipment not work during the operation 02:41:57.110 --> 02:42:01.670 I'm not allowed to talk about it. I call it the the discombobulator. I I don't know how to work 02:42:01.670 --> 02:42:03.570 All right, dr. Duffinschmerz 02:42:03.570 --> 02:42:04.030 Yeah 02:42:04.650 --> 02:42:09.670 Oh my gosh, this guy's such a crazy man crazy troll. Oh my gosh 02:42:09.670 --> 02:42:12.790 This is crazy. Yes. What a what a crazy troll 02:42:12.790 --> 02:42:17.970 Details of the u.s. Military mission to abduct maduro have not been made public 02:42:17.970 --> 02:42:25.210 But the u.s. Has been known to use weapons to disorient soldiers and guards or disable equipment and infrastructure in the past 02:42:25.210 --> 02:42:30.450 Did you know it's actual actual fact absolute fact that the u.s. government 02:42:32.270 --> 02:42:32.770 I 02:42:32.770 --> 02:42:35.330 Guess you'd say looked into or studied 02:42:36.010 --> 02:42:43.430 And tried to create a weapon to turn enemy soldiers gay. Yeah, the gay bomb. Yeah, the gay bomb. I've heard about it 02:42:43.430 --> 02:42:48.490 Yeah, uh, brickelberry covered the gay bomb. I don't know who that is. It's just uh, it was a daniel tosh 02:42:48.490 --> 02:42:49.390 uh animated 02:42:49.990 --> 02:42:50.990 adult comedy 02:42:51.610 --> 02:42:54.890 And they were all rangers at a national park and somehow 02:42:54.890 --> 02:43:00.250 Like a gay bomb went off and it turned everybody else gay in the big lesbian woman straight 02:43:00.250 --> 02:43:02.530 And she had to like save the day as a straight woman 02:43:03.010 --> 02:43:09.250 And and have like an anti gay bomb go off. So everybody went back to normal. That's hilarious. That's really funny 02:43:09.250 --> 02:43:15.210 I can't I just like I can't believe it. I mean, but at the same time I can so yeah, the the idea with the gay bomb 02:43:16.310 --> 02:43:22.290 Was kind of discombobulating everyone like suddenly a bunch of men are marching next to each other towards you 02:43:22.290 --> 02:43:28.170 And then suddenly boom. They're all the greek and later. Oh my gosh. We'll turn the other armies gay 02:43:28.730 --> 02:43:31.190 They make them greek. They seem to be able to work 02:43:31.710 --> 02:43:37.570 Fine and be gay. So I just don't understand. Yeah, maybe it might make them fight harder. That was the idea with the greeks, right? 02:43:38.110 --> 02:43:38.510 maybe 02:43:39.510 --> 02:43:39.910 crazy 02:43:40.390 --> 02:43:44.130 Anyway, it doesn't seem like they use the gay bomb on in war 02:43:44.970 --> 02:43:47.250 Maybe they use the gay bomb or something like it in 02:43:48.150 --> 02:43:48.550 domestic 02:43:49.370 --> 02:43:52.210 You know use with the frogs. I don't know 02:43:52.930 --> 02:43:55.310 But anyways, he says he's all have to talk about it 02:43:55.310 --> 02:44:01.510 And then and then this article Al Jazeera says details of the u.s military mission to abduct Maduro have not been made public 02:44:02.050 --> 02:44:08.310 But the u.s has been known to use weapons to disorient soldiers and guards or disable equipment and infrastructure in the past 02:44:08.310 --> 02:44:09.070 Here's what we know 02:44:10.570 --> 02:44:14.970 What has the venezuelan defense minister said on january 16th 02:44:14.970 --> 02:44:20.790 Padrino Lopez said 47 venezuelan soldiers had been killed during the us attack on caracas 02:44:20.790 --> 02:44:26.030 32 cuban soldiers some of them providing protection to maduro were also killed 02:44:26.790 --> 02:44:32.190 Then last week he made the weapons laboratory accusations and was quoted by l universal saying 02:44:32.190 --> 02:44:39.370 The president of the united states admitted that they had used weapons that had never been used on battlefields 02:44:39.370 --> 02:44:45.490 Weapons that no one in the world possessed. They used that technology against the venezuelan people on january 3rd 02:44:45.910 --> 02:44:46.190 2026 02:44:46.830 --> 02:44:50.110 I really wonder if it was created on dogway-proving grounds crazy 02:44:50.790 --> 02:44:52.090 He appeared to be 02:44:52.090 --> 02:44:56.590 Referring to an interview trump gave to the us news channel news 02:44:56.590 --> 02:45:00.550 Nation in which he said a sonic weapon had been used 02:45:01.190 --> 02:45:04.990 Yeah, sonic blast. That's what I do. Yeah a wave like a energy wave 02:45:04.990 --> 02:45:08.470 I think I can probably play this video without any problems considering 02:45:08.470 --> 02:45:12.070 I would assume that trump doesn't curse here. So let's see. Let's see 02:45:12.630 --> 02:45:17.690 You know people are saying it goes down with one of the most incredible. It was so complex 02:45:18.710 --> 02:45:20.290 152 aeroplanes many many 02:45:20.790 --> 02:45:23.230 Talk about boots in the ground. We had a lot of boots on the ground 02:45:23.690 --> 02:45:28.390 But it was amazing and think of it. Nobody was killed and on the other side a lot of people were killed 02:45:28.390 --> 02:45:30.490 Unfortunately, I say that soldiers 02:45:31.110 --> 02:45:35.810 Um, interesting. I thought that he wasn't admitting it, but maybe maybe it took a while for him to admit it 02:45:35.810 --> 02:45:38.290 Maybe living off going for going on 02:45:38.990 --> 02:45:42.210 Cubans mostly cubans, but many many killed and they were 02:45:42.790 --> 02:45:47.130 They knew we were coming and they were protected and our guys weren't you know 02:45:47.130 --> 02:45:53.170 Our guys are jumping out of helicopters and they're not protected and they were but it was so brilliant the 02:45:54.390 --> 02:45:56.390 Electricity for almost the entire 02:45:57.050 --> 02:46:01.570 Country was boom turned off. That's when they knew that the entire country 02:46:02.150 --> 02:46:09.450 I thought that this was like just a big crowd of soldiers or something. Oh, no, they they crippled they crippled 02:46:10.490 --> 02:46:13.630 Venezuela's ability to do anything for like five hours 02:46:14.430 --> 02:46:16.970 There's a problem. There was no electricity 02:46:17.730 --> 02:46:22.970 Caracas said there's no electricity. It's not a the only people with lights were the people that had candles 02:46:23.710 --> 02:46:24.690 was just off 02:46:25.290 --> 02:46:32.150 So we sort of got them a little by surprise, but it was a brilliant. It was brilliant tactically. It was an incredible thing 02:46:32.810 --> 02:46:38.810 And if you think about it, everybody was like, how did this just happen overnight and how'd they do it so quickly like there were some 02:46:39.510 --> 02:46:41.130 you know, American 02:46:42.070 --> 02:46:46.570 You know like super neocon or super super into 02:46:47.130 --> 02:46:52.890 War type people being like you should be happy that your country can can get this 02:46:53.510 --> 02:46:58.030 Get this done. You see what I'm saying that means they can get to you 02:46:58.030 --> 02:47:04.330 Yeah, like half a second. I know and people don't think about that means they can shut down 02:47:05.050 --> 02:47:06.850 America's power to you 02:47:07.490 --> 02:47:11.550 Yeah, and not even just the government doing it to us. I mean, there's still 02:47:12.010 --> 02:47:15.970 I mean other forces out there at play that would not mind seeing the 02:47:15.970 --> 02:47:18.510 Power grid fall in the u.s. Right 02:47:18.510 --> 02:47:23.130 And although sitting here thinking it's a solar flare and yeah, who knows or aliens 02:47:24.150 --> 02:47:30.870 Yeah, that's creepy. It's also kind of like insensitive and gross the way he was like the only people that had lights and people that had candles 02:47:30.870 --> 02:47:32.110 Yeah, I don't like that 02:47:32.750 --> 02:47:38.170 So this article goes on what is trump said about us secret weapons days after maduro's 02:47:38.170 --> 02:47:45.870 Abduction white house press secretary caroline levitt reposted comments that appears have been posted on x by a venezuelan security guard 02:47:45.870 --> 02:47:53.070 He wrote that the u.s. Had launched something during the operation that was like a very intense sound wave 02:47:53.900 --> 02:47:57.130 Why is caroline levitt reposting that what? 02:47:58.090 --> 02:47:58.650 It 02:47:58.650 --> 02:48:01.850 Suddenly I felt like my head was exploding from the inside 02:48:02.490 --> 02:48:03.430 That's cruel 02:48:03.430 --> 02:48:08.750 This security guard wrote we all started bleeding from the nose somewhere vomiting blood 02:48:08.750 --> 02:48:12.510 We fell to the ground unable to move. I wonder if anybody died from this probably 02:48:13.030 --> 02:48:16.350 It just says alga zero has not been able to verify the account 02:48:17.170 --> 02:48:20.870 In his news nation interview last week trump said the sonic weapon used 02:48:20.870 --> 02:48:26.450 Was used against maduro's cuban bodyguards and what he described as a heavily fortified area 02:48:27.090 --> 02:48:28.210 No one else has it 02:48:28.210 --> 02:48:31.330 And we have weapons no one knows about trump said 02:48:31.790 --> 02:48:38.930 And I say it's probably best not to talk about them, but we have some incredible weapons. That was an incredible attack 02:48:38.930 --> 02:48:43.790 Don't forget that house was in the middle of a fortress in a military base 02:48:43.790 --> 02:48:49.030 And it's like I couldn't wrap my head around how I woke i went to sleep one night woke up the next day and 02:48:49.750 --> 02:48:50.210 america 02:48:50.670 --> 02:48:51.130 had 02:48:51.930 --> 02:48:52.390 maduro 02:48:53.830 --> 02:48:58.370 Grabbed and shipped back to the u.s. Like zero zero u.s. Casualties 02:48:59.670 --> 02:49:01.310 It's really quick. Yeah 02:49:02.150 --> 02:49:03.910 And does that make it right? 02:49:04.470 --> 02:49:08.130 No, no, I'm just saying that it this is actually making it make more sense 02:49:08.130 --> 02:49:14.590 This discombobulator could be why it was so easy for them. Yeah, especially if u.s. troops didn't get affected by it 02:49:14.590 --> 02:49:18.210 Mm-hmm. Yeah, and what are they doing to not be affected by it? That's interesting to 02:49:18.970 --> 02:49:21.390 Take oil hats. Yeah, who knows under their helmets 02:49:21.390 --> 02:49:27.050 Maybe they maybe they blast them and then and then drop in like let it take effects and then follow up 02:49:27.050 --> 02:49:31.250 Like at a safe distance. That's that's my best explanation other than like 02:49:32.130 --> 02:49:35.050 Modifying them like they have some kind of like pill they can take, you know 02:49:35.570 --> 02:49:40.110 I'm not saying that's yeah, or maybe like they have head gear on like their earphones and stuff or like 02:49:40.710 --> 02:49:42.810 Built to withstand it. Hmm interesting 02:49:44.050 --> 02:49:44.470 so 02:49:45.410 --> 02:49:49.090 Then on sunday trump was quoted by the new york post as saying the u.s. Had 02:49:49.090 --> 02:49:56.010 Used a weapon designed to disable defensive equipment the discombobulator. He said i'm not allowed to talk about it 02:49:56.510 --> 02:49:56.990 ridiculous 02:49:58.070 --> 02:50:01.550 What's sonic rather disabling weapons has the u.s. Been known to use in the past 02:50:01.550 --> 02:50:07.510 The best known sonic systems used by the u.s. Are directional acoustic hailing and warning devices 02:50:07.510 --> 02:50:09.970 especially the long-range acoustic device 02:50:09.970 --> 02:50:13.830 L. R. A. D. Brussels based military and political analyst Elijah 02:50:14.450 --> 02:50:21.730 Magnia are told Al Jazeera. These are not traditional weapons instead. They are powerful focused sound projectors used for things like stopping ships 02:50:22.450 --> 02:50:27.530 Securing bases protecting convoys managing checkpoints and sometimes crowd control 02:50:27.530 --> 02:50:33.910 He said the main purpose of these devices is to control behavior by sending voice commands over long distances at a 02:50:33.910 --> 02:50:41.090 High volume they can cause discomfort and are designed to force people to either comply with the commands or leave an area 02:50:42.110 --> 02:50:45.110 So creepy sounds like something they would use like in a 02:50:45.590 --> 02:50:48.430 I mean there was it was a kill streak on black ops, too 02:50:49.070 --> 02:50:53.310 It was like a microwave directed energy weapon that would hurt people that you could deploy 02:50:53.310 --> 02:50:55.330 So like i mean the idea has been around for a while 02:50:55.330 --> 02:50:59.430 creepy well more free talk live tomorrow at 02:50:59.430 --> 02:51:06.330 Same time and more free talk live on free talk live com. 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