WEBVTT 00:30.640 --> 00:36.340 You were put on notice and you backed it and you backed a genocide to the hills for years 00:36.340 --> 00:37.060 on end. 00:37.280 --> 00:39.760 How dare you talk about corruption? 00:40.500 --> 00:42.360 How dare you talk about corruption? 00:42.740 --> 00:45.200 Thank you for your diatribe. 00:45.460 --> 00:48.960 Oh, you get to make a speech every day. 00:49.360 --> 00:51.680 You get to make a hypocritical speech every day. 00:51.920 --> 00:57.000 And God forbid you should be questioned about your diabolical record. 00:57.360 --> 01:00.960 It's amazing that you can show your genocidal face in public. 01:25.600 --> 01:26.580 I'm Ryan Christian. 01:26.780 --> 01:28.340 Welcome to the Last American Bagobond. 01:28.700 --> 01:31.160 You know, Americans like those moments, right? 01:31.320 --> 01:34.480 We like to see the corrupt get called out to their face. 01:34.720 --> 01:39.920 Now the sad thing today, what we're all, I think a lot of us bumping up against is recognizing 01:39.920 --> 01:46.100 a disconnect between the accusations, the criticism and being accountable, being held accountable. 01:46.100 --> 01:51.240 And so I'm talking to a friend of the show, journalist, author, Sam Husaini is joining me 01:51.240 --> 01:52.920 today to discuss multiple things. 01:53.120 --> 01:58.180 His recent calling out of corruption all across the spectrum is talking about running 01:58.180 --> 02:01.740 for Congress as well as just discussing the larger problems we're dealing with today. 02:02.220 --> 02:03.420 Sam, welcome back to the show. 02:03.580 --> 02:04.060 How are you today? 02:04.560 --> 02:05.380 Good to be with you. 02:05.640 --> 02:06.140 Thank you, Ryan. 02:07.880 --> 02:08.920 It's just great to see. 02:09.460 --> 02:13.420 As much as it is like I'm highlighting and I want to get into with you, a lot of what 02:13.420 --> 02:16.020 we see today from other people who don't mean what they're saying. 02:16.220 --> 02:16.980 And I believe you do. 02:18.460 --> 02:23.540 It's a lot of yelling and accusations and then no follow through and nobody's ever held 02:23.540 --> 02:23.900 accountable. 02:24.060 --> 02:27.160 And that's a really important point right now for a lot of Americans all over the 02:27.160 --> 02:27.460 spectrum. 02:27.700 --> 02:31.140 You know, hashtag arrest someone, like even from Republicans, you know, it's becoming 02:31.140 --> 02:32.200 very frustrating. 02:32.760 --> 02:35.440 So just on that first note, you know, it's nice to see him being called out 02:35.440 --> 02:38.720 because I think it's obvious these people are corrupt on both sides and I believe 02:38.720 --> 02:39.500 we share that opinion. 02:39.500 --> 02:44.320 And so let's just get into this and first, you know, what happened there, how you 02:44.320 --> 02:48.120 were banned afterward and what just not new for you and trying to call corrupt 02:48.120 --> 02:50.040 people out and being banned from places of journalism. 02:50.400 --> 02:54.420 And then let's talk about, you know, what you think is changing and then 02:54.420 --> 02:56.720 overlap that with Congress and like how you want to change that. 02:56.820 --> 02:58.500 Like, let's see some accountability today, you know. 03:01.300 --> 03:06.560 I, it was an event at the press club where I'd been a member for 20 years. 03:07.360 --> 03:14.200 It was against corruption sponsored by public citizen, presumably anti-corruption 03:14.200 --> 03:14.960 organization. 03:15.400 --> 03:18.380 And I found out that they weren't going to take questions for Schumer. 03:18.600 --> 03:22.860 There were other parts of the event where they would have Q&A, but it was 03:22.860 --> 03:24.920 clear that Schumer wasn't going to take questions. 03:25.020 --> 03:26.880 And I just thought that this was preposterous. 03:27.560 --> 03:31.500 So after he, you know, spoke for a minute or two, I stood up and called 03:31.500 --> 03:34.100 him up and said, you know, you're talking about corruption, well, 03:34.100 --> 03:36.440 it could be more corrupt than backing genocide. 03:37.760 --> 03:41.180 And I think that it's not just simply cathartic, but it's especially 03:41.180 --> 03:47.400 important to do as Democrats are trying to rebrand themselves somehow as, 03:47.740 --> 03:52.000 you know, being the party opposed to the Gaza genocide, for example, 03:53.060 --> 03:57.380 then including, you know, central figures in the Clinton in the 03:57.380 --> 03:58.660 Biden administration. 04:00.720 --> 04:03.720 So I thought that it was important to do that. 04:04.340 --> 04:06.140 You said I haven't been banned. 04:06.700 --> 04:11.820 I've been, you know, taken out of places, but I don't recall ever 04:11.820 --> 04:13.420 being outright banned. 04:13.900 --> 04:16.900 I guess I was referring to you not showing back up at the State Department. 04:17.520 --> 04:20.420 Well, they actually did let me back into the State Department 04:20.420 --> 04:24.960 because they didn't have a case as to, they rescinded my access for a while 04:24.960 --> 04:28.840 and then with virtually no explanation, re-granted it. 04:28.940 --> 04:30.380 But then they had a signed seating. 04:30.720 --> 04:34.220 So they put me way in the back right near the door if they want to 04:34.220 --> 04:35.180 drag me out again. 04:35.280 --> 04:37.560 And they kind of threatened me with, you know, security 04:37.560 --> 04:40.680 once I was, you know, chiming in in ways that they didn't like. 04:41.000 --> 04:43.320 And then about a year ago, the State Department stopped having 04:43.320 --> 04:44.420 press briefings altogether. 04:45.120 --> 04:48.700 The State Department has not had a normal scheduled press briefing 04:48.700 --> 04:51.540 with a spokesperson for over a year now. 04:51.540 --> 04:55.380 So they just pulled the plug on, you know, in a kind of minimal 04:55.380 --> 04:58.920 accountability altogether after, you know, taking pains to 04:58.920 --> 05:01.140 avoid me and violating their own rules and so on. 05:01.600 --> 05:03.860 But here, this is a press club that's supposed to be an 05:03.860 --> 05:06.120 organization dedicated to press freedom. 05:08.120 --> 05:12.920 Back in 2011, I was actually suspended from there for asking 05:12.920 --> 05:18.740 a Saudi autograph tough questions, but they had the ethics 05:18.740 --> 05:23.740 committee kicked in and overturned that suspension. 05:23.980 --> 05:25.920 It was just a two-week suspension at the time. 05:26.560 --> 05:27.560 And it got play. 05:27.720 --> 05:30.180 I mean, I got covered in the Washington Post and other places. 05:30.680 --> 05:34.140 This time, I've seen no coverage in any mainstream outlet. 05:34.660 --> 05:41.300 And the president and executive director of the press club 05:41.300 --> 05:45.220 won't even tell me who the chair of the ethics committee is. 05:47.260 --> 05:52.040 So, you know, just another, you know, threat of degeneration. 05:52.260 --> 05:55.320 I got the letter just a little bit ago from the executive 05:55.320 --> 05:58.380 director telling me that I had been banned, completely banned 05:58.380 --> 06:03.460 from the club, not just a suspension for a period of 06:03.460 --> 06:05.740 time or anything like that, which also wouldn't be 06:05.740 --> 06:06.240 justified. 06:06.720 --> 06:09.320 They concocted this narrative where I was somehow a threat 06:09.320 --> 06:11.660 to safety and security. 06:12.820 --> 06:18.620 You know, it just, you know, complete lies and, you know, 06:18.700 --> 06:23.780 hopefully either the press club elements within it will realize 06:23.780 --> 06:26.600 the damage that they're doing to themselves, not to mention 06:26.600 --> 06:29.780 just journalism and also defaming me. 06:31.760 --> 06:36.740 But also, you know, folks like you and hopefully other media 06:36.740 --> 06:40.760 will awaken to this and, you know, start covering it. 06:41.560 --> 06:42.560 Hopefully, yeah. 06:42.660 --> 06:44.800 I mean, so all that, all those points that the media 06:44.800 --> 06:47.000 not covering it, the state department shutting down 06:47.000 --> 06:49.120 briefings, you know, some of these points are generally, 06:49.300 --> 06:50.900 you know, not wanting to talk about what's happening, 06:50.920 --> 06:52.440 but, you know, you've done this a long time. 06:52.960 --> 06:55.260 It's not unprecedented, but all these things together, 06:55.540 --> 06:56.820 what sense does that give you? 06:56.980 --> 06:59.740 You know, what does that show you in what's going on today? 07:01.100 --> 07:04.540 Yeah, that, you know, institutions that are supposed 07:04.540 --> 07:07.320 to do things have been even more hollowed out 07:07.320 --> 07:09.760 than they were five, 10 or 15 years ago. 07:11.060 --> 07:15.560 And, you know, just this complete capitulation 07:15.560 --> 07:19.720 to this, you know, Trump mentality of he's the big threat 07:19.720 --> 07:22.980 and nobody else is going to be scrutinized. 07:23.160 --> 07:25.380 I mean, you know, Schumer is Mr. Wall Street 07:25.380 --> 07:28.680 and he's talking to public citizen against 07:30.400 --> 07:33.420 against against corruption, allegedly. 07:33.420 --> 07:37.680 I mean, there's so many preposterous layers to this 07:37.680 --> 07:41.200 and you're right, I have been at this for a long time 07:41.200 --> 07:45.060 and, you know, I've lived outside, you know, near DC 07:45.060 --> 07:50.080 for 30 years now, trying to do this kind of work 07:50.980 --> 07:54.860 and part of what I'm doing now is running for Congress 07:54.860 --> 07:58.320 because, you know, I feel like I've been battling 07:58.320 --> 08:02.440 against official Washington getting into news conferences 08:02.440 --> 08:06.000 and working, you know, trying to get good information 08:06.000 --> 08:08.620 into establishment media and so on and so forth. 08:09.100 --> 08:12.980 And I've lived in what is now Maryland's 08:12.980 --> 08:18.500 Fourth Congressional District for most of that time, 08:18.700 --> 08:23.820 some 20 years, and I wanna try to organize people 08:23.820 --> 08:24.740 in the area. 08:24.940 --> 08:29.480 I don't want to run a campaign for the sake of it. 08:29.480 --> 08:34.000 I feel like a lot of campaigns, political campaigns, 08:34.540 --> 08:38.380 sort of try to exploit movements. 08:39.830 --> 08:42.160 And I think we've seen that from presidents, 08:42.600 --> 08:46.200 to senators, to Congress people, to mayors and so on, 08:46.580 --> 08:48.620 that they actually use movements 08:48.620 --> 08:50.260 in order to gain public office. 08:53.290 --> 08:55.040 I'm prepared to take public office. 08:55.220 --> 08:57.020 I'm trying to get into Congress, 08:57.020 --> 08:59.160 but I realized that it's a severe long shot, 09:00.940 --> 09:07.240 but I'm more than anything trying to juice up movements 09:07.240 --> 09:10.180 rather than, you know, suck them dry. 09:10.840 --> 09:13.960 And that means activating people 09:13.960 --> 09:16.240 who are outside of Washington DC 09:16.780 --> 09:20.940 and could cast a shadow onto official Washington 09:20.940 --> 09:23.660 instead of being in the shadow of it. 09:24.240 --> 09:24.940 Right, right. 09:25.540 --> 09:27.540 I mean, I think, in my opinion, 09:27.640 --> 09:28.580 I think there's clearly movements 09:28.580 --> 09:29.960 that are dishonest from the start 09:29.960 --> 09:31.280 or just not what they appear. 09:31.820 --> 09:32.820 But I think a lot of these movements 09:32.820 --> 09:34.260 are clearly genuine throughout history, 09:34.320 --> 09:36.160 but I think almost to a group, 09:36.520 --> 09:38.420 I end up seeing them co-opted, manipulated 09:38.420 --> 09:39.280 from the top down. 09:39.500 --> 09:41.300 And that's kind of what I think you're speaking to, 09:41.420 --> 09:42.700 is that it's just a common practice 09:42.700 --> 09:43.900 to take things with good intentions 09:43.900 --> 09:46.320 and just squeeze them dry for the political motivation 09:46.320 --> 09:47.080 and drop them. 09:47.360 --> 09:49.040 I've even seen memes going around about that, 09:49.040 --> 09:49.980 specifically from the left, 09:50.100 --> 09:51.460 but it's both sides of this. 09:51.460 --> 09:54.100 We're seeing, I think, happened right now 09:54.100 --> 09:55.440 with the Republican side of this, 09:55.540 --> 09:56.580 the MAGA movement and all of that. 09:56.860 --> 09:58.800 But, you know, I appreciate what you're trying to do. 09:58.860 --> 10:01.060 My audience is very familiar with my stance on this 10:01.060 --> 10:03.360 about not that I believe, you know, 10:03.480 --> 10:05.460 since if we're living in a state of society, 10:05.560 --> 10:07.320 which is what we are, not anarchistic, 10:07.440 --> 10:10.160 which is arguably what I think and I would prefer, 10:10.280 --> 10:13.080 but since we are in this type of governmental society, 10:13.300 --> 10:14.460 I argue that, you know, 10:15.080 --> 10:19.420 the system done correctly requires informed electorate, 10:19.420 --> 10:20.800 you know, engaged, voting, 10:21.400 --> 10:23.520 and expressing your opinions and being engaged. 10:24.100 --> 10:25.400 My point is always has been 10:25.400 --> 10:27.000 that I believe these things have been stolen from us. 10:27.040 --> 10:28.680 And I think that's a very easy case to make 10:28.680 --> 10:29.340 from both sides, 10:29.440 --> 10:31.380 whether it's voting machines or just corruption, 10:31.640 --> 10:32.300 voting manipulation. 10:32.720 --> 10:34.380 And so I've always opened the idea 10:34.380 --> 10:36.180 that I'm wrong about the entirety of it, 10:36.260 --> 10:37.260 but I'm very skeptical 10:37.260 --> 10:38.860 and I think most Americans are today. 10:39.160 --> 10:40.360 And so expressing all that, 10:40.680 --> 10:42.260 I'm just, my opinion is that I don't even think 10:42.260 --> 10:43.860 I'm in a position or ever will be 10:43.860 --> 10:45.500 with all this to be out there and voting, 10:45.640 --> 10:46.780 but I do appreciate, 10:47.060 --> 10:48.280 and of course I could be wrong about that 10:48.280 --> 10:50.640 and I advocate for people to do voting included 10:50.640 --> 10:51.520 what they think is important. 10:52.000 --> 10:54.700 But my point is that I think that all that said 10:54.700 --> 10:56.340 that what you're doing is important, 10:56.460 --> 10:57.440 like Derek Brose, for example, 10:57.580 --> 10:59.420 did something similar or ran for a different reason, 10:59.460 --> 11:01.280 but still trying to get political momentum, 11:01.700 --> 11:03.060 get people to think about the right things. 11:03.340 --> 11:04.560 And so I support you in doing that. 11:04.600 --> 11:06.320 And I think that if anyone is gonna have an effect 11:06.320 --> 11:07.080 at somebody like you, 11:07.140 --> 11:08.640 who I believe has good intentions in all this. 11:08.880 --> 11:10.380 And so that being said, you know, 11:10.600 --> 11:13.300 how do you see yourself making a difference 11:13.300 --> 11:15.860 in a system that you openly admit 11:15.860 --> 11:17.800 is broken and corrupted to a degree 11:17.800 --> 11:19.800 that all of it there just that is corrupted. 11:20.140 --> 11:21.520 How do you see yourself making a difference 11:21.520 --> 11:22.380 through a system like that? 11:23.140 --> 11:25.560 I think virtually every system that we operate in 11:26.200 --> 11:32.060 from media to being on X, 11:32.380 --> 11:34.840 which I probably spend too much time on to, 11:37.800 --> 11:40.140 I mean, even in the realm of armed struggle, 11:42.840 --> 11:44.540 legally and the legal realm, 11:44.540 --> 11:47.160 every realm is corrupted. 11:48.040 --> 11:50.320 And you realize that going into it. 11:50.500 --> 11:54.780 And I think the electoral realm is hugely corrupted, 11:55.320 --> 11:58.540 but that doesn't stop us from trying to use our smarts 11:58.540 --> 12:00.900 to figure out ways to short circuit the system 12:00.900 --> 12:05.720 to take what opportunities can avail themselves. 12:07.260 --> 12:09.700 I mean, I've gained some notoriety 12:09.700 --> 12:11.680 because of my questioning and so on. 12:11.920 --> 12:12.680 So I'm like, okay, 12:12.680 --> 12:15.500 could I actually make a run here for Congress 12:15.500 --> 12:21.280 and knock a very pro genocide establishment Democrat 12:21.880 --> 12:25.960 down to size and gal galvanize this district. 12:26.380 --> 12:30.000 So I think that there are opportunities 12:31.080 --> 12:34.860 and you take them where you can and you try to, 12:35.220 --> 12:36.540 I mean, one thing that I wanna do 12:37.520 --> 12:42.280 is start generating PDFs. 12:42.280 --> 12:45.260 That people can download and print as part of the campaign. 12:45.260 --> 12:48.300 And I hope that this effort will take a life of its own 12:48.300 --> 12:51.480 after the campaign so that people can have an excuse 12:51.480 --> 12:53.340 to knock on their neighbor's doors, 12:54.100 --> 12:58.340 can have an excuse to be handing out flyers at Metro stops, 12:59.840 --> 13:04.020 can have build up the tools and the mechanisms 13:04.420 --> 13:08.180 whereby people can be engaged wherever they are 13:08.840 --> 13:10.180 with the legal information 13:10.180 --> 13:12.420 and not just be, 13:13.040 --> 13:17.360 I'm still torn about what names to give this PDF project. 13:17.620 --> 13:20.880 I have a version of it up right now called papers project, 13:21.300 --> 13:23.280 but I'm almost tempted to call it something 13:23.280 --> 13:27.900 like get off your phone and read a piece of paper 13:28.440 --> 13:31.180 that this person handed to you or something along those, 13:31.460 --> 13:32.760 something shorter than that, 13:32.800 --> 13:34.480 but just maybe just get off your phone 13:36.540 --> 13:40.120 and finding ways to engage people. 13:40.260 --> 13:44.640 Imagine handing out flyers in front of military bases 13:44.640 --> 13:47.300 in front of health insurance companies, 13:48.580 --> 13:49.680 so on and so forth. 13:49.920 --> 13:55.400 I think that, a line that comes to my mind a lot 13:55.400 --> 14:00.820 is the roomy line, be fiery cold ones 14:00.820 --> 14:02.280 so that heat can come. 14:03.780 --> 14:07.600 So to try to inspire people to, 14:07.760 --> 14:10.400 in microcosm going from my tough questioning 14:10.400 --> 14:12.960 to can we take that to other venues 14:13.660 --> 14:17.000 so that people can be active in their day-to-day life 14:18.280 --> 14:20.940 and produce a citizenry that's more meaningful? 14:21.640 --> 14:22.540 Yeah, most definitely. 14:22.740 --> 14:25.100 And I personally love that for the reasons you stated, 14:25.220 --> 14:26.960 but also just the idea of where all this goes. 14:27.520 --> 14:30.780 Everything digital, even from the COVID-19 era, 14:30.780 --> 14:32.000 no contact. 14:32.400 --> 14:34.240 I think that's in a lot of ways challenging 14:34.240 --> 14:38.000 where the world, in a governmental sense, I guess, 14:38.080 --> 14:39.140 just controlling sense is going, 14:39.440 --> 14:41.600 where it's less contact, more online, 14:41.740 --> 14:42.700 so I appreciate that. 14:43.240 --> 14:45.780 But I guess the larger point of it is 14:45.780 --> 14:48.800 in a system that is designed to not change. 14:49.680 --> 14:50.940 I guess, I mean, all you can do 14:50.940 --> 14:52.540 is have hope that you can change it from within 14:52.540 --> 14:54.180 if you want to effectively change it. 14:54.220 --> 14:55.620 That's where I sort of lose that momentum 14:55.620 --> 14:57.500 is that I'm just so battered down 14:57.500 --> 14:59.140 with examples that it's designed not to. 14:59.140 --> 15:01.460 And so it's like, but at the same point from the beginning, 15:01.700 --> 15:03.760 I wholeheartedly support people's desire 15:03.760 --> 15:06.340 or effort to try to change that, whether or not it can be. 15:06.460 --> 15:07.600 It's like, it's still, you know, 15:07.660 --> 15:08.880 but I just hope I'm wrong in that 15:08.880 --> 15:11.980 because I know there are good people around this in it, 15:12.220 --> 15:13.740 you know, less in it today than ever, 15:13.800 --> 15:15.780 but clearly there are people that are choosing 15:15.780 --> 15:17.140 to try to do things for the right reasons. 15:17.240 --> 15:19.040 I'd like to believe a Massey is trying to do that. 15:19.540 --> 15:20.880 I'm gonna hold people's feet to the fire, 15:20.980 --> 15:22.660 yourself included, and hope that they follow through. 15:22.880 --> 15:23.500 And I- 15:23.500 --> 15:23.520 Absolutely. 15:24.020 --> 15:25.100 Your history has shown that you will 15:25.100 --> 15:26.460 and that you demand those kind of questions. 15:26.660 --> 15:27.980 What I say about Massey all the time 15:27.980 --> 15:29.040 is somebody who's honest 15:29.040 --> 15:30.660 should be demanding themselves be questioned. 15:30.880 --> 15:32.120 So I very much appreciate that. 15:32.720 --> 15:35.500 So what are some important things 15:35.500 --> 15:37.420 that you think you want to start with in this, you know, 15:37.480 --> 15:38.580 like what'll be your, you know, 15:38.620 --> 15:40.900 not necessarily your entire, you know, campaign, 15:41.120 --> 15:43.240 but you know, some primary focal points for you. 15:43.860 --> 15:45.780 Before I answer that, I'd love to give a little bit 15:45.780 --> 15:49.620 of a historical context to this because, you know, 15:50.380 --> 15:54.420 I think that the system does produce a lot of dead ends 15:54.420 --> 15:55.700 and a lot of co-optations, 15:55.780 --> 15:57.520 but in that there are openings. 15:57.520 --> 16:00.000 I mean, for example, after Vietnam and Watergate, 16:00.540 --> 16:01.940 you had Carter come in, 16:02.220 --> 16:04.220 who very much consolidated the system. 16:04.980 --> 16:07.440 But you also had people like James Abrask, 16:07.800 --> 16:09.460 who became a senator in South Dakota 16:09.460 --> 16:14.080 and was an incredible rebel rouser in the Senate. 16:14.940 --> 16:16.480 And similarly, with the end of the Cold War, 16:16.760 --> 16:19.980 you had Clinton come in and consolidate the system. 16:20.040 --> 16:21.700 And then after the Iraq invasion, 16:22.040 --> 16:24.660 you had Obama come in and basically consolidate the system. 16:24.720 --> 16:26.240 And each of those consolidations 16:26.580 --> 16:29.240 laid the groundwork for further regressions. 16:30.080 --> 16:34.160 You know, Carter started the Rabbit Deployment Force, 16:34.320 --> 16:35.380 which became SENTCOM, 16:35.780 --> 16:38.320 which became the instrument for all, you know, 16:38.400 --> 16:40.700 all the wars that we've seen in the Middle East. 16:41.640 --> 16:44.800 So there's an insidiousness to it, 16:44.980 --> 16:46.540 but with the Gaza Genocide, 16:47.080 --> 16:49.220 I think that the Democratic establishment 16:49.220 --> 16:54.840 is attempting frantically to consolidate it in many ways 16:54.840 --> 16:58.580 and to co-op the movement against genocide. 16:58.880 --> 16:59.960 I mean, I think a lot of politicians 16:59.960 --> 17:01.680 who talk about Palestine now, 17:02.940 --> 17:04.260 I don't, you know, I'm not a mind reader. 17:04.440 --> 17:05.440 I don't know what's in their hearts, 17:05.560 --> 17:09.220 but I feel like they're benefiting more from the cause 17:09.220 --> 17:11.740 than they're actually giving in to the cause. 17:12.700 --> 17:15.140 Most of it, exactly about that today. 17:15.460 --> 17:16.540 And I, yeah. 17:16.820 --> 17:20.860 I mean, that's an extreme example of Hakeem Jeffries. 17:21.100 --> 17:23.760 And by the way, my opponent, Glenn Ivy, 17:23.760 --> 17:26.400 has actually taken more money from APEC 17:27.180 --> 17:29.220 and APEC related super PACs 17:29.220 --> 17:30.820 than Hakeem Jeffries. 17:30.940 --> 17:31.840 He's way up there. 17:34.160 --> 17:36.340 So, I mean, that, you know, 17:36.660 --> 17:39.180 the whole Gaza Genocide is central 17:39.180 --> 17:41.260 and not just simply ethically 17:41.260 --> 17:43.980 and not just simply because it's our tax dollars, 17:45.440 --> 17:48.360 but also because I think that the issue of Israel 17:48.360 --> 17:52.760 is central and the US-Israeli establishment relationship 17:52.760 --> 17:57.020 is central to the corrosion of democracy and freedom 17:57.020 --> 17:59.580 in the United States in terms of big tech, 17:59.800 --> 18:01.900 police training, and so on and so forth. 18:03.080 --> 18:05.860 So, you know, I think that these are central issues 18:05.860 --> 18:07.260 that affect us. 18:07.420 --> 18:09.600 It isn't an issue, it's emblematic 18:09.600 --> 18:13.240 of making the US more and more of an empire 18:13.240 --> 18:15.300 and even less of a democracy. 18:16.040 --> 18:19.260 So I think that that's completely central. 18:21.620 --> 18:23.600 But my other issues, 18:23.800 --> 18:25.240 I mean, some of them are very boilerplate, 18:28.100 --> 18:32.260 progressive stuff for enhanced Medicare for all. 18:32.640 --> 18:35.540 And, you know, there's clearly a dire situation 18:35.540 --> 18:38.340 in terms of health insurance and health care coverage 18:39.100 --> 18:40.420 in the United States. 18:40.520 --> 18:42.620 But, you know, at a deeper level, 18:42.620 --> 18:46.780 there's a real unequivocal commitment to civil liberties 18:47.740 --> 18:51.060 and to building up what we have in the United States 18:51.060 --> 18:53.180 rather than continued draining it 18:53.180 --> 18:54.920 for the benefit of the Epstein class 18:57.180 --> 19:01.520 in terms of where the resources go. 19:02.940 --> 19:03.880 Yeah, I love it. 19:03.980 --> 19:05.340 I mean, you know, these are, 19:05.800 --> 19:08.740 I mean, what's interesting is you'd expect almost everybody, 19:08.880 --> 19:10.900 I guess we'll see more as we get closer to, you know, 19:11.060 --> 19:12.820 I guess primarily the presidential election, 19:13.100 --> 19:15.140 but these would be things you'd hear from politicians 19:15.140 --> 19:17.400 because in my opinion, and tell me if you agree, 19:17.800 --> 19:19.860 I think it's pretty obvious the vast majority left 19:19.860 --> 19:22.240 and right of the field have generally these criticisms 19:22.240 --> 19:23.460 about these larger issues. 19:23.760 --> 19:26.240 And so I'm surprised to see not as many people, 19:26.680 --> 19:28.300 you know, stating that and not meaning it. 19:28.340 --> 19:29.640 You know, that's what a lot of politicians do, 19:29.720 --> 19:31.860 kind of like Jeffrey saying, stop with the genocide 19:31.860 --> 19:33.560 and continuing to support the genocide, 19:33.560 --> 19:34.820 whether it's funding or so on. 19:35.120 --> 19:37.020 But I guess what's important though is that, you know, 19:37.040 --> 19:39.360 these are things that I doubt I will see in that 19:39.360 --> 19:41.260 because I think they're so, I mean, from every, 19:41.620 --> 19:43.240 everybody that I can see has some kind of connection 19:43.240 --> 19:45.880 to funding through some kind of a lobby connected to Israel, 19:46.160 --> 19:48.060 some kind of a merchant of death out there, 19:48.140 --> 19:50.040 whether it be these days, Palantir, Oracle, 19:50.120 --> 19:51.980 or even going back to the old school ones, you know? 19:52.180 --> 19:53.840 And so clearly I think that a lot of them 19:53.840 --> 19:57.920 are just stuck in this old kind of status quo system. 19:58.020 --> 19:59.140 And I think that's one of the reasons 19:59.140 --> 20:00.840 that people are starting to see through all of this, 20:01.080 --> 20:01.940 you know, that we're, I mean, 20:02.240 --> 20:03.700 I guess I don't want to jump ahead to this, 20:03.720 --> 20:05.060 but since you mentioned the two-party illusion, 20:05.200 --> 20:06.480 I was kind of an end with this, 20:06.780 --> 20:07.660 that I think that, you know, 20:07.980 --> 20:09.420 we've talked about this before, in fact, 20:09.600 --> 20:10.740 you and I had an interview about this 20:10.740 --> 20:11.840 going back to Elon Musk, 20:11.840 --> 20:14.460 that I think you were 100% correct on. 20:14.860 --> 20:16.360 Elon Musk saved your free speech 20:16.360 --> 20:17.600 or the great digital divider. 20:17.660 --> 20:19.120 I'd like to believe that's pretty clear today, 20:19.120 --> 20:21.380 but to the larger point about the two-party illusion, 20:21.920 --> 20:23.620 you know, do you see that right now 20:23.620 --> 20:24.820 playing more of a factor? 20:25.000 --> 20:26.480 Like, do you see there being a divide 20:26.480 --> 20:27.800 between these two sides, 20:27.920 --> 20:29.620 or do you think they're all kind of locked in 20:29.620 --> 20:30.800 when it comes to the larger issue? 20:30.800 --> 20:32.540 And what does that say about where we are as a country? 20:33.100 --> 20:36.020 Yeah, I think that a lot of the screaming and shouting 20:36.020 --> 20:38.420 between the Democratic and Republican establishments 20:38.420 --> 20:39.680 is largely performative 20:39.680 --> 20:44.060 and that they effectively foster the same interests 20:44.060 --> 20:45.800 or severely overlapping interests 20:45.800 --> 20:47.340 of Wall Street, Big Tech, 20:47.540 --> 20:48.900 military industrial complex, 20:50.140 --> 20:53.900 US's empire, Israel, and so on behind the scenes, 20:54.660 --> 20:56.800 and sometimes not even behind the scenes. 20:57.480 --> 21:01.700 So I think that it's still very much a major issue. 21:01.880 --> 21:03.720 And I think that they, you know, 21:05.160 --> 21:07.860 we've seen a marginalization of the issue 21:07.860 --> 21:12.160 of the Gaza Genocide, even as it's continued. 21:12.300 --> 21:14.700 And I think that it's part of a very calibrated effort 21:14.700 --> 21:18.120 by the establishment to put it out of sight, out of mind, 21:18.360 --> 21:20.780 and to substitute it with issues 21:20.780 --> 21:25.160 that are more amenable to, you know, 21:25.740 --> 21:28.260 this facade of a great debate, 21:28.380 --> 21:30.200 whether it's immigration, for example, 21:31.380 --> 21:34.720 or, you know, the buzzword of today, socialism. 21:35.500 --> 21:39.180 These, I think, are propaganda terms and mechanisms 21:39.180 --> 21:43.100 of the establishment to get people to get them stuffed back 21:43.100 --> 21:44.480 into their partisan boxes. 21:45.460 --> 21:49.460 So that they, you know, they gotta back Trump 21:49.460 --> 21:50.920 because they don't want the social, isn't it? 21:51.000 --> 21:52.520 They gotta back the Democrats 21:52.520 --> 21:55.080 because Trump's gonna, you know, 21:55.720 --> 21:58.800 is using ICE for all of these diabolical ends, 21:58.880 --> 22:02.080 ignoring the fact that the Democrats, 22:02.080 --> 22:04.680 generally speaking, aren't for abolishing ICE. 22:06.720 --> 22:09.900 They're not for, you know, 22:09.960 --> 22:12.160 they perpetuated this system. 22:13.200 --> 22:16.500 And the crisis of immigration largely came from issues 22:16.860 --> 22:19.880 that the two party duopoly agrees on, 22:20.080 --> 22:25.120 corporate trade deals, drug wars, and interventions. 22:25.560 --> 22:27.660 These are the things that caused desperate immigration. 22:28.100 --> 22:34.760 And then the sort of result of that is desperate immigration 22:34.760 --> 22:38.100 and then the duopoly uses that to stuff everybody back 22:38.100 --> 22:39.820 into their partisan boxes. 22:39.860 --> 22:42.580 And even the creation of ICE, you know, 22:42.740 --> 22:45.120 that came out of the aftermath of 9-11 22:45.120 --> 22:47.320 and the false flag anthrax attacks, 22:48.280 --> 22:51.540 as part of the whole so-called reorganization 22:51.540 --> 22:53.520 of the so-called Department of Homeland Security, 22:54.220 --> 22:56.120 the Patriot Act and all of that. 22:56.900 --> 23:00.120 So all of these issues that are used 23:00.720 --> 23:04.300 for partisan division are effectively 23:05.160 --> 23:08.960 the results of duopoly collusion. 23:10.220 --> 23:13.220 Yeah, I mean, I think that's one of the most central issues 23:13.220 --> 23:13.880 of our time. 23:14.220 --> 23:15.500 I really think most people, 23:15.900 --> 23:16.880 just in this last administration, 23:17.360 --> 23:19.980 I mean, I would argue like to double the amount of people, 23:20.080 --> 23:21.980 if not the majority today that see that 23:21.980 --> 23:23.360 or at least are beginning to question it. 23:23.540 --> 23:24.520 I get pushed back on that, 23:24.520 --> 23:26.280 but I think it's beginning to develop more clearly. 23:26.880 --> 23:28.680 But on the part of the Israel aspect, 23:28.940 --> 23:31.780 because again, to Americans, and at least as I see it, 23:31.860 --> 23:33.760 it has become a central issue. 23:34.120 --> 23:35.740 And this is not anything about anything other 23:35.740 --> 23:37.620 than the reality of the Israeli government 23:37.620 --> 23:40.040 dictating or manipulating US policy. 23:40.460 --> 23:42.140 And so like section 219, for example, 23:42.300 --> 23:44.080 the National Defense Authorization Act 23:44.080 --> 23:46.680 or previous elements of legislation that are there, 23:47.180 --> 23:49.140 you know, do you think that's a driving factor here? 23:49.200 --> 23:51.640 And to what degree do you think Israel is at least 23:51.640 --> 23:53.440 trying to influence US policy? 23:53.440 --> 23:55.540 And then how does that play a factor in your potential, 23:55.940 --> 23:58.240 you know, if and when you become a member of Congress? 23:59.260 --> 24:01.460 I think it's very much a driving factor. 24:02.400 --> 24:05.860 You know, I view it as empire elements 24:05.860 --> 24:07.980 within the United States and Israel, 24:08.260 --> 24:11.360 collude, your mileage may vary as, you know, 24:11.420 --> 24:13.340 the whole, you know, tail wagging the dog 24:13.340 --> 24:15.120 and all of that. 24:15.780 --> 24:19.860 I think, you know, people of goodwill can debate that. 24:21.380 --> 24:24.200 I am concerned and part of the reason I'm running honestly 24:24.200 --> 24:26.860 is that, you know, there's murmurs of a third party 24:26.860 --> 24:29.040 from, you know, Tucker Carlson and company. 24:29.820 --> 24:32.720 I'm concerned that that's not going to happen. 24:34.900 --> 24:37.180 I'm concerned or that if it does happen, 24:37.220 --> 24:39.220 it's just gonna be another tentacle of the establishment. 24:40.520 --> 24:42.680 And, you know, some activists with the Green Party 24:42.680 --> 24:44.720 went out and did the work here in Maryland 24:44.720 --> 24:45.780 and got on the ballot. 24:46.100 --> 24:48.960 And some Green Party people kept knocking at my door 24:48.960 --> 24:51.820 saying, we got an open ballot line here saying, you know, 24:51.840 --> 24:55.740 I mean, I've known other decent people who, you know, 24:56.080 --> 24:58.520 ran for office and spent their entire time 24:58.520 --> 24:59.560 trying to get on the ballot. 24:59.860 --> 25:01.860 So this was handed to me on a silver platter. 25:02.920 --> 25:05.600 So that was part of my thinking 25:05.600 --> 25:08.440 and part of my thinking is to, you know, 25:08.580 --> 25:13.020 to put forward a contrast of this is a political figure 25:13.020 --> 25:14.920 who actually means what they say 25:14.920 --> 25:16.520 and we should be expecting this. 25:16.600 --> 25:17.520 This should be the norm. 25:17.520 --> 25:18.780 This shouldn't be a novelty. 25:20.680 --> 25:23.400 And that it's here and now, 25:23.560 --> 25:26.500 it's not hoping that Tucker Carlson and company 25:26.500 --> 25:29.620 come to the rescue like the cavalry in two years 25:30.300 --> 25:32.240 because they could very well end up folding 25:32.240 --> 25:34.720 behind JD Vance or something, you know, 25:34.840 --> 25:36.940 or, you know, who knows what. 25:37.520 --> 25:40.580 This is here and now and I'm hoping 25:40.580 --> 25:42.420 that it will resonate with people. 25:42.420 --> 25:45.100 And I think it already has been resonating with people 25:45.100 --> 25:51.980 on the last just week, 10 days around the country 25:51.980 --> 25:54.280 and especially within the district. 25:54.820 --> 25:56.000 Yeah, I actually agree. 25:56.220 --> 25:57.540 Now, just to be clear, so you are running 25:57.540 --> 25:58.860 on the green party, is that what the, 25:58.940 --> 25:59.860 I didn't get that in the first place. 26:00.000 --> 26:01.640 So good, that's what you got about that 26:01.640 --> 26:04.000 because I understand the logic, a lot of minds 26:04.000 --> 26:06.820 about why that might hinder your effort 26:06.820 --> 26:07.660 to potentially win. 26:07.840 --> 26:09.880 But to me, all of this is about principled stances, 26:10.100 --> 26:11.700 you know, that's really what Americans wanted 26:11.700 --> 26:13.800 from what I can see and just they don't get it. 26:13.800 --> 26:15.140 And so as much as, you know, 26:15.180 --> 26:17.320 I don't believe right now representing 26:17.320 --> 26:18.600 either side of the, you know, 26:18.700 --> 26:20.440 left-right system is a good look. 26:20.600 --> 26:21.940 I don't think they're accurate or honest. 26:22.080 --> 26:24.440 And I mean at the level, you know, DNCR and see, 26:24.520 --> 26:25.900 and I think that's pretty clear. 26:25.980 --> 26:26.680 So I'm glad to hear that, 26:26.700 --> 26:28.660 even though I do have my thoughts about any of them, 26:28.700 --> 26:30.320 like I said, the whole system, you know, 26:30.400 --> 26:32.640 I have a good, you know, feeling about this 26:32.640 --> 26:33.160 and your intentions. 26:33.160 --> 26:34.580 And so I think that goes a long way. 26:34.660 --> 26:36.100 And I believe people will pick up on the, 26:36.580 --> 26:37.920 you know, what you're laying out 26:37.920 --> 26:39.040 and that I believe you'll follow through 26:39.040 --> 26:39.860 with it as best you can. 26:39.960 --> 26:40.880 And I think, you know, 26:41.360 --> 26:42.800 it'd be a rice for fresh and change, 26:42.800 --> 26:44.660 put it that way and people in power right now. 26:44.760 --> 26:45.240 So it's good to hear. 26:46.000 --> 26:48.840 I've been open of my criticisms of the Green Party, 26:48.960 --> 26:50.640 particularly around things about, 26:50.960 --> 26:51.700 I shouldn't say the Green, 26:51.860 --> 26:53.440 members of the Green Party, 26:53.560 --> 26:54.540 primary members and particularly 26:54.540 --> 26:55.960 on the issue of COVID origins 26:57.400 --> 26:59.160 and other related things, 26:59.180 --> 27:00.640 which I've done a lot of work on 27:00.640 --> 27:03.080 as you're aware, Ryan. 27:03.560 --> 27:05.200 And, you know, part of what resonates with me 27:05.200 --> 27:07.240 is some of the early Greens would say, 27:07.640 --> 27:09.160 we're not from the left or right. 27:09.220 --> 27:11.220 We're, you know, we're upfront. 27:11.220 --> 27:12.700 We're forward. 27:14.920 --> 27:16.980 And that resonates with me as well. 27:17.640 --> 27:18.280 Yeah, absolutely. 27:18.700 --> 27:19.600 You know, and like you said, 27:19.680 --> 27:20.820 we should be questioning it, you know, 27:20.880 --> 27:22.440 because people across the political spectrum 27:22.440 --> 27:23.740 will tell you what you want to hear, right? 27:23.840 --> 27:25.200 So question it, hold the feed to the fire 27:25.200 --> 27:26.680 and hope though, you know, 27:26.780 --> 27:28.820 that's one of the things I talk about today is that, 27:28.820 --> 27:29.960 you know, if we're not hoping 27:29.960 --> 27:32.300 that something like this becomes what we want it to, 27:32.360 --> 27:32.880 then what are we doing? 27:33.120 --> 27:34.820 You know, it's a lot of people end up in that position 27:34.820 --> 27:36.720 where nothing is ever possible. 27:36.960 --> 27:38.240 You know, and I get framed that way, 27:38.280 --> 27:39.480 but I'm very hopeful. 27:39.640 --> 27:41.060 Even when it comes to the Tucker thing 27:41.060 --> 27:42.540 and I don't have good feeling about it, 27:42.600 --> 27:45.140 but I still hope that it ends up being what we would want. 27:45.360 --> 27:47.420 You know, same thing with the left, right presidents, 27:47.720 --> 27:48.640 you know, you just should all hope 27:48.640 --> 27:49.560 that they do the right thing, 27:49.640 --> 27:50.620 but be honest about it 27:50.620 --> 27:52.160 because truly it's, you know, pretty clear 27:52.160 --> 27:53.560 if you're being honest with yourself, you know? 27:53.900 --> 27:55.460 So I'm looking forward to that, Sam, 27:55.520 --> 27:57.120 and I hope we can follow up on that point 27:57.120 --> 27:58.060 as it develops. 27:59.080 --> 28:00.880 I know a central part of this as well, 28:01.180 --> 28:02.440 and I'm sure, and you already mentioned, 28:02.540 --> 28:04.260 this is a central part of this for you as well 28:04.260 --> 28:05.880 is the direction of this, 28:06.320 --> 28:08.460 you know, the technocracy direction in my opinion. 28:08.600 --> 28:10.460 The idea of the reason I frame it 28:10.460 --> 28:11.940 as technocracy in particular, 28:12.160 --> 28:13.840 as opposed to just like technological surveillance 28:13.840 --> 28:15.460 is because I'm of the mind, 28:15.520 --> 28:16.580 and I think it's very obvious 28:16.580 --> 28:18.740 that it's not just the growth of surveillance, 28:19.060 --> 28:21.480 the transition of the surveillance state 28:21.480 --> 28:24.020 into some technocratic, excuse me, technological side of it, 28:24.080 --> 28:26.260 but that it merges with the government part of it. 28:26.600 --> 28:28.060 You know, the actual technocratic side, 28:28.280 --> 28:29.000 like the, you know, 28:29.320 --> 28:30.620 going back to the original idea 28:30.620 --> 28:32.000 of like the engineers and the scientists 28:32.000 --> 28:34.420 kind of running things, which it's not that so much anymore. 28:34.500 --> 28:35.940 If people look up the term of technocracy, 28:36.340 --> 28:38.520 it's become more of a, in my opinion, 28:38.520 --> 28:40.460 you know, a transition of society 28:40.460 --> 28:43.900 into some sort of like CEO run tech level country. 28:44.060 --> 28:45.260 And that's what they're openly discussing. 28:45.700 --> 28:47.860 And so all of that said, take it wherever you want, 28:47.900 --> 28:49.360 whether it's the focal point of data centers 28:49.360 --> 28:51.540 and their issues or the larger government side of it, 28:51.600 --> 28:52.540 you know, where is your mind 28:52.540 --> 28:54.980 when it comes to data centers, block cameras, 28:55.120 --> 28:56.500 the whole thing as it pertains to Americans? 28:58.520 --> 29:00.220 So many things come to mind. 29:00.860 --> 29:02.720 I will try to be coherent. 29:04.620 --> 29:06.100 When you say the CEO, 29:06.940 --> 29:10.240 I got to mention a local thing here. 29:10.540 --> 29:13.000 There is not a superintendent of schools here 29:13.000 --> 29:14.980 in Prince George's County where I am. 29:15.040 --> 29:18.600 There is a CEO of schools, you know, 29:18.660 --> 29:22.880 what you're talking about resonates in so many ways 29:22.880 --> 29:25.160 so that you have schools that look like prisons 29:25.160 --> 29:27.720 and were probably designed by some of the same people. 29:28.400 --> 29:30.600 And I think that that dovetails 29:30.600 --> 29:35.300 with the technocracy that you're exactly talking about. 29:37.080 --> 29:39.820 And I think it's very inspiring 29:39.820 --> 29:41.320 to see a lot of the activism 29:41.320 --> 29:43.140 around the data centers and so on. 29:43.160 --> 29:46.540 And it's fascinating to see the deeminization of that 29:46.540 --> 29:48.560 saying, oh, there are Luddites and so on. 29:49.520 --> 29:52.180 If you go back and read, 29:52.760 --> 29:55.080 and I don't mean to deify these figures, 29:55.720 --> 29:58.960 but Bertrand Russell and Frank Lloyd Wright 29:58.960 --> 30:01.260 and their warnings about technology 30:01.260 --> 30:02.680 and where it was leading 30:03.320 --> 30:06.100 and how it would be used for the benefit of the few 30:06.760 --> 30:12.140 until we fixed our political and economic systems, right? 30:12.880 --> 30:15.800 You know, they saw, you know, 30:15.940 --> 30:19.240 Einstein and Bertrand Russell put out a manifesto 30:19.240 --> 30:22.800 mostly dealing with nuclear, the threat of nuclear war, 30:22.820 --> 30:25.220 but there were other strands in their thinking. 30:25.600 --> 30:29.040 And they basically said, unless we, 30:29.040 --> 30:33.440 and until we fix our economic and political life, 30:33.680 --> 30:35.580 all of these technologies will be used 30:35.580 --> 30:36.640 for the benefit of a few. 30:38.760 --> 30:41.640 And, you know, so they almost, 30:41.940 --> 30:43.180 especially in the case of Bertrand Russell, 30:43.320 --> 30:45.220 who I know did some bad stuff. 30:45.300 --> 30:48.060 He was pro-eugenics early on in his life and so on. 30:50.300 --> 30:52.260 You know, it was basically, 30:52.780 --> 30:55.120 became an enlightened Luddite, you might say. 30:55.680 --> 30:58.000 You know, he's not anti-technology 30:58.000 --> 30:59.120 by any stretch of the imagination. 30:59.220 --> 31:00.740 He's anti-this technology 31:00.740 --> 31:02.800 that this establishment is putting forward 31:02.800 --> 31:05.680 to use as an instrument to further dominate us. 31:05.800 --> 31:10.680 And it's really fascinating to see young people today 31:11.200 --> 31:14.040 sort of know and realize that instinctually. 31:16.400 --> 31:18.580 It's also to the credit of people like yourself 31:18.580 --> 31:20.100 and the other independent journalists out there 31:20.100 --> 31:20.800 that are calling it out 31:20.800 --> 31:22.980 and our ability to reach them today, which is growing, 31:23.140 --> 31:24.160 but also what you said. 31:24.240 --> 31:25.200 But I think that's important to note 31:25.200 --> 31:27.220 that things are changing in the way 31:27.220 --> 31:28.380 that our society operates. 31:28.500 --> 31:30.380 And I think that's largely what this transition 31:30.380 --> 31:31.280 is being driven for, 31:31.320 --> 31:33.060 because people starting to see through things 31:33.060 --> 31:34.080 doesn't work for the establishment. 31:34.700 --> 31:35.720 Yeah, absolutely. 31:36.040 --> 31:38.020 But the threats are tremendous. 31:38.560 --> 31:41.100 You know, the threat of nuclear war, 31:41.640 --> 31:46.440 of, you know, a few elite making horrific decisions 31:46.440 --> 31:48.280 that would basically destroy humanity 31:48.280 --> 31:52.000 has sort of given away to the threat of enslaving humanity. 31:53.420 --> 31:56.420 Using this techno fascism or technocracy 31:56.420 --> 31:58.440 or however you want to term it 31:59.120 --> 32:00.740 with the constant surveillance. 32:01.380 --> 32:04.720 And I think a huge part of it is the disparity of it. 32:05.300 --> 32:09.040 Like, I could imagine a reasonable society 32:09.460 --> 32:11.280 where everybody lived in a glass house 32:11.960 --> 32:15.560 and therefore nobody through stones, right? 32:15.820 --> 32:17.400 It would be like living in a village 32:17.400 --> 32:20.460 and everybody knows everybody's business and it's equal. 32:20.920 --> 32:22.700 That's not what we're tending towards. 32:23.320 --> 32:24.980 We are tending towards a system 32:24.980 --> 32:29.020 where a privileged few have complete secrecy 32:29.020 --> 32:33.420 to do every diabolical thing you can possibly imagine 32:33.420 --> 32:36.480 and some that you can't while the rest of us 32:36.480 --> 32:39.660 have absolutely no privacy in any part of our lives. 32:39.900 --> 32:40.320 Right. 32:40.720 --> 32:44.460 That is completely horrific 32:44.460 --> 32:50.300 and completely empathetical to any decent ethical system. 32:50.640 --> 32:52.840 And what this is the craziest thing for me, 32:52.880 --> 32:53.780 I bring this up often 32:53.780 --> 32:56.520 that people still can't see what you just highlighted 32:56.520 --> 32:58.660 despite the fact that Larry Ellison can sit there 32:58.660 --> 33:00.960 in front of a million, I think a large audience 33:00.960 --> 33:03.600 and just simply say, what we're building the future, 33:03.900 --> 33:05.060 everyone will be on their best behavior 33:05.060 --> 33:05.940 because you're all being watched. 33:06.080 --> 33:07.400 It's like just openly tell you that. 33:08.060 --> 33:09.760 Or Mark Andreessen on Joe Rogan 33:09.760 --> 33:11.580 talking about how that's the reality of the world 33:11.580 --> 33:12.480 and you've all been lied to. 33:12.600 --> 33:13.480 Democracy doesn't exist. 33:13.800 --> 33:15.600 You need the good oligarch to save you from the bad oligarch. 33:16.140 --> 33:17.540 But people, it just doesn't connect. 33:17.640 --> 33:18.680 It's almost as if they're talking about 33:18.680 --> 33:20.520 some hypothetical distant future 33:20.520 --> 33:21.760 they're talking about right now. 33:21.760 --> 33:23.240 They've written books about all this. 33:23.500 --> 33:25.520 So it's such an important point to see. 33:26.120 --> 33:29.040 And I'm glad to see that this is something 33:29.040 --> 33:30.420 that is on everybody's radar, 33:30.540 --> 33:31.720 but importantly people like you 33:31.720 --> 33:34.080 who are trying to work through the system to change that. 33:34.440 --> 33:36.300 Because, I mean, before I forget actually, 33:36.500 --> 33:37.500 the point though about you made 33:37.500 --> 33:38.920 about the glass house and the village. 33:39.960 --> 33:41.480 You were making a point there 33:41.480 --> 33:43.040 and I think it's important to see the contrast. 33:43.460 --> 33:45.600 But just from my perspective, I would argue 33:46.200 --> 33:48.280 that that's not, I wouldn't want either. 33:48.980 --> 33:49.840 And also- 33:49.840 --> 33:52.540 I understand that, but there is a difference 33:52.540 --> 33:54.740 between no privacy for anyone 33:54.740 --> 33:57.320 and what we are getting towards. 33:57.700 --> 33:58.320 Well, that's what I was saying. 33:58.420 --> 34:00.040 You were clearly making the point there of the contrast. 34:00.260 --> 34:01.120 I'm just simply highlighting, 34:01.620 --> 34:02.640 which maybe you agree with me, 34:02.680 --> 34:05.280 but that ultimately it comes down to the choice. 34:05.900 --> 34:07.760 And I think that's the issue is even right there, 34:07.940 --> 34:09.900 which I think will end up in a position in the near future 34:09.900 --> 34:11.500 already we're seeing versions of it 34:11.500 --> 34:13.840 where it becomes some kind of a thing like that. 34:14.000 --> 34:15.320 Where it goes, okay, we'll find. 34:15.480 --> 34:16.760 Do you want this one or do you want that one? 34:16.880 --> 34:18.880 And it shouldn't be a false binary. 34:18.880 --> 34:21.040 And this is what I think Americans need to get around. 34:21.140 --> 34:21.840 It's not left or right. 34:21.920 --> 34:23.320 It's not going through the same hamster wheel. 34:23.460 --> 34:25.160 It's trying to find different paths. 34:25.260 --> 34:27.160 And it's not always easy to see. 34:27.300 --> 34:29.200 And sometimes it's not one person with the answer. 34:29.660 --> 34:31.340 But I think that's important is that it's about 34:31.340 --> 34:32.780 people choosing their own path 34:32.780 --> 34:33.860 and how they want to live their lives. 34:34.060 --> 34:35.080 Hey, if you want to make a community 34:35.080 --> 34:36.140 where everyone has glass houses, 34:36.160 --> 34:37.600 then you guys can all gravitate towards that. 34:37.840 --> 34:39.400 But it's about forcing people into it. 34:39.700 --> 34:41.740 And these people truly believe 34:41.740 --> 34:43.600 that they either know what's best for us 34:43.600 --> 34:45.940 or honestly, I think some of them are just truly, 34:46.000 --> 34:47.000 as you said, diabolical. 34:47.000 --> 34:49.380 Just self-serving interest. 34:49.640 --> 34:50.960 But both of those are alarming to me. 34:51.740 --> 34:52.260 Absolutely. 34:52.800 --> 34:55.740 And as you say, this is a real world thing 34:55.740 --> 34:57.820 that's unfolding and people can see it. 34:58.160 --> 35:01.880 And you'll have a medical issue 35:01.880 --> 35:03.120 that you email a friend about 35:03.120 --> 35:06.620 and suddenly you see ads dealing with the medical issue 35:06.620 --> 35:09.780 if you're a typical phone user and so on. 35:10.260 --> 35:13.400 So that kind of thing is obviously snowballing more 35:13.400 --> 35:16.480 and more corporate and government interests 35:16.480 --> 35:18.900 know virtually everything about you, 35:19.000 --> 35:20.300 even things that you don't share 35:21.240 --> 35:25.100 with the actual people in their actual life. 35:26.400 --> 35:28.420 And you know, absolutely nothing 35:28.420 --> 35:31.140 about the insidious things that they do. 35:31.960 --> 35:36.420 So something definitely has to come to a head 35:36.420 --> 35:41.720 to really genuinely deal with that. 35:43.400 --> 35:45.760 And I mean, the obscene stuff is, 35:46.100 --> 35:50.160 I think a window into that immense disparity, 35:50.660 --> 35:54.040 but there's certainly others. 35:55.480 --> 35:57.080 Well, so on that point alone though, 35:57.140 --> 35:58.660 do you have any thoughts on what you're, 35:59.100 --> 36:01.900 at least as it pertains to your constituents, 36:02.520 --> 36:05.340 what, if and when, what would you try to do to stop that? 36:08.000 --> 36:09.380 Massive government disclosure. 36:10.840 --> 36:13.720 If I were to actually get into office, 36:13.960 --> 36:16.800 I would be pushing for massive government disclosure 36:16.800 --> 36:20.180 on all fronts as rapidly as possible 36:20.180 --> 36:26.740 before they can use AI to rewrite government documents 36:26.740 --> 36:29.380 before God knows what else happens 36:29.760 --> 36:32.940 to prevent further disasters 36:32.940 --> 36:35.600 to massive government disclosure 36:35.600 --> 36:37.980 about the origins of the pandemic, 36:39.740 --> 36:44.020 about all kinds of insidious government actions, 36:44.320 --> 36:46.640 I think is one major remedy. 36:46.920 --> 36:48.140 I mean, I've tried to push the envelope 36:48.140 --> 36:50.060 in terms of what it means to be a journalist 36:50.060 --> 36:52.120 and I'm gonna try to be pushing the envelope 36:52.120 --> 36:53.740 as to what it means to be a candidate 36:53.740 --> 36:55.460 or how to activate movements 36:56.200 --> 36:57.900 rather than to sponge off of them. 36:57.980 --> 36:59.280 And if I were to end up in Congress, 36:59.440 --> 37:00.900 I would try to redefine what it means 37:00.900 --> 37:01.980 to be a member of Congress. 37:02.460 --> 37:03.660 I mean, I think it's scandalous 37:03.660 --> 37:06.840 that you have members of Congress 37:07.240 --> 37:12.420 who to their credit are calling bombings of Yemen 37:13.580 --> 37:16.960 by Biden unconstitutional or bombings 37:16.960 --> 37:20.000 by Trump of Iran as unconstitutional, 37:20.400 --> 37:22.600 but then aren't taking the obvious next step 37:22.600 --> 37:25.320 of introducing articles of impeachment, for example. 37:25.800 --> 37:27.300 It only takes one member of Congress 37:27.300 --> 37:30.080 and I think that, and there had been some, 37:30.080 --> 37:36.500 Al Green put forward a thing in the summer of 2025 37:36.500 --> 37:39.520 when Trump first bombed Iran 37:40.220 --> 37:41.660 and he got suffocated 37:41.660 --> 37:43.400 by the rest of the Democratic Party sandwich 37:43.400 --> 37:44.520 and then he lost his seat. 37:46.060 --> 37:50.260 So, there are obviously diabolical mechanisms 37:50.920 --> 37:53.060 that are targeting anybody and everybody 37:53.060 --> 37:56.060 who tries to make a stand, 37:56.520 --> 37:58.680 but I'm trying to make a stand that I can 37:58.680 --> 38:01.560 and I would fulfill a very unique role 38:01.560 --> 38:06.020 in that I would call out both sides in various ways. 38:07.580 --> 38:10.600 I would move any president 38:11.240 --> 38:13.340 conducts an illegal unconstitutional 38:14.340 --> 38:17.380 or I would seek to impeach of either party. 38:18.620 --> 38:20.820 I would call out the Democrats 38:20.820 --> 38:25.680 for their complete denialism and propaganda 38:25.680 --> 38:27.400 regarding the origins of COVID 38:27.940 --> 38:29.800 and I would call out the Republicans 38:29.800 --> 38:34.640 in pretending that this is a reason to demonize China 38:34.640 --> 38:37.360 or to pretend that it was all Fauci's 38:37.360 --> 38:39.560 Fauci's a horrific actor 38:39.560 --> 38:42.200 and I called them out fairly early on in the pandemic 38:42.860 --> 38:44.720 to some extent even before, 38:44.980 --> 38:50.400 but it's an entire structure, for example, of bio weapons 38:50.400 --> 38:52.700 in which I'm in Maryland. 38:53.000 --> 38:56.060 It's not in the district, but Fort Dietrich is here. 38:56.060 --> 38:59.060 So, I've put forward a challenge to Maryland Greens 38:59.060 --> 39:02.600 and other progressives that we need to confront 39:03.120 --> 39:06.900 Fort Dietrich, the largest biodefense facility in the world, 39:07.740 --> 39:09.820 which was likely responsible 39:09.820 --> 39:12.820 for the false flag anthrax attacks in 2001, 39:12.920 --> 39:16.900 which Congress never investigated. 39:17.960 --> 39:22.960 2001, after 9-11, Congress suffered 39:22.960 --> 39:27.200 a false flag of bio weapons attack 39:27.200 --> 39:30.800 and Congress never investigated it and that's ridiculous. 39:31.080 --> 39:32.160 I'd certainly put forward 39:32.800 --> 39:34.540 that there should be a serious investigation 39:34.540 --> 39:36.100 of those anthrax attacks. 39:36.960 --> 39:39.580 They tried to pin around one guy and he ended up dead. 39:40.060 --> 39:40.220 Right. 39:42.100 --> 39:43.980 We've been covering that for quite a long time 39:43.980 --> 39:46.000 in the surge of the COVID-19 timeframe 39:46.000 --> 39:48.720 kind of a little bit about dark winter and so on. 39:48.980 --> 39:51.580 It's still, and I'm glad to bring it up though, 39:51.580 --> 39:53.160 because these things drift from the background 39:53.160 --> 39:55.180 and it's like people become generally just aware, 39:55.300 --> 39:56.620 but there's never accountability. 39:57.300 --> 39:59.540 So I'm glad to hear, I swear, your headline, 39:59.740 --> 40:01.700 your tagline should be, we will impeach people. 40:02.160 --> 40:04.400 I just don't think we can, trust me. 40:06.460 --> 40:08.200 I don't know that I can get to impeachment, 40:08.400 --> 40:10.440 but one Congressperson can put forward 40:10.440 --> 40:11.460 articles of impeachment. 40:11.880 --> 40:12.600 Right, right, right. 40:12.720 --> 40:13.700 What do you mean is we'll start it. 40:13.760 --> 40:15.760 We'll start the process, but it's nice to hear 40:15.760 --> 40:17.540 because there's a lot of that happening 40:17.540 --> 40:19.280 and not so much accountability. 40:19.740 --> 40:23.620 Right, so in a sense, people might try to peg me 40:23.620 --> 40:26.200 as a radical or coming from the orange or something. 40:26.800 --> 40:29.560 In a sense, if I were to get into Congress, 40:29.680 --> 40:30.920 I feel like I would be the only one 40:30.920 --> 40:33.300 actually upholding their pledge to the Constitution 40:33.840 --> 40:35.620 regardless of partisan games. 40:36.720 --> 40:40.160 I mean, even the best Democrats never, 40:40.520 --> 40:44.160 I don't think even thought of impeaching Biden 40:44.160 --> 40:46.900 for his illegal bombing of Yemen, for example, 40:46.900 --> 40:48.980 even when they called it unconstitutional. 40:49.600 --> 40:53.140 Exactly, right, because not to give a pass or anything, 40:53.180 --> 40:54.740 I think it's just as corrupt as do this, 40:54.840 --> 40:56.920 but their mind might just be that it's bad for the party, 40:57.040 --> 40:59.200 so we can't do it, to the accountability, calling them out, 40:59.500 --> 41:00.660 but that people are done with that. 41:01.320 --> 41:04.380 It's just so clear that I think this last administration 41:04.380 --> 41:07.540 right now of the Republicans getting frustrated 41:07.540 --> 41:09.580 with nobody being held accountable just shows you that. 41:09.900 --> 41:11.880 That was such a cohesive thing at the beginning 41:11.880 --> 41:14.300 and they just, I mean, they've lied and challenged 41:14.300 --> 41:15.640 almost every promise they put forward, 41:15.640 --> 41:17.600 but clearly people are just tired of that. 41:18.000 --> 41:19.440 But speaking of the Iran War, 41:19.760 --> 41:20.920 and we can kind of finish on this, 41:21.040 --> 41:24.880 is that it's an interesting addition to all of this. 41:25.140 --> 41:27.680 I mean, I'm not gonna act like I know 41:27.680 --> 41:29.060 why things look different 41:29.060 --> 41:31.580 or why Trump keeps cycling through this weird series of lies. 41:31.960 --> 41:33.700 It's just weird, it doesn't even line up for me, 41:33.920 --> 41:35.300 but clearly it's different. 41:35.640 --> 41:37.340 The Strait of Formuse has been talked about 41:37.340 --> 41:40.220 for a long time about the potential of what that might do. 41:40.840 --> 41:42.500 I just want your general thoughts on all of this. 41:42.600 --> 41:43.700 Do you feel there's more about this 41:43.700 --> 41:45.320 that is about some kind of energy transition? 41:45.320 --> 41:47.480 Do you think this is just about Israel forcing war 41:47.480 --> 41:48.420 to take out Iran? 41:48.860 --> 41:50.900 What are your thoughts and how do you see, 41:51.640 --> 41:53.060 I mean, well, I'll leave it there 41:53.060 --> 41:55.120 because we talked a lot about the left-right paradigm. 41:55.240 --> 41:56.660 I don't think either side cares, honestly, 41:56.760 --> 41:57.860 but what are your thoughts about that 41:57.860 --> 41:59.460 going forward for the future of it? 42:00.380 --> 42:03.200 I think it could be a whole series of things 42:03.200 --> 42:06.200 from Trump and his cronies playing the markets 42:06.760 --> 42:12.500 in sort of a micro profiteering sort of way 42:12.500 --> 42:16.620 to geopolitically how they are trying to figure out 42:16.620 --> 42:20.640 how to ensure that BRICS is what's sometimes called 42:20.640 --> 42:23.580 a part of the sub-imperial structure. 42:24.440 --> 42:29.080 They may well be trying to form an accommodation 42:29.080 --> 42:31.320 with elements within Iran. 42:33.020 --> 42:35.240 I mean, obviously all of the Arab governments 42:35.240 --> 42:38.200 are completely acquiescent to 42:39.800 --> 42:42.720 the apartheid genocidal state of Israel 42:42.720 --> 42:43.920 dominating the Palestinians. 42:44.540 --> 42:46.020 They haven't done a damn thing 42:46.020 --> 42:50.780 other than obviously Yemen and Surallah and Hezbollah 42:50.780 --> 42:56.600 and we saw the horrific deaths of Nasrallah and others. 42:58.080 --> 43:02.380 But to what extent is this become a show 43:03.740 --> 43:06.060 to distract from Israel? 43:06.060 --> 43:09.280 To what extent is it, I mean, it is obviously open aggression 43:09.280 --> 43:11.000 by the United States against Iran. 43:11.140 --> 43:13.960 I don't want to minimize that at all. 43:14.180 --> 43:16.780 And Iranian people have paid a heavy price 43:16.780 --> 43:19.700 in terms of sanctions and so on and so forth. 43:20.680 --> 43:25.620 But you do end up with sort of these militarists 43:25.620 --> 43:29.380 on both sides gaining primacy to some extent 43:29.380 --> 43:34.820 and to what end to how will this affecting 43:36.720 --> 43:39.160 in a positive way? 43:39.400 --> 43:43.240 I mean, if we end up, there are just so many scenarios 43:43.240 --> 43:45.540 it's hard to parse it all out, right? 43:45.640 --> 43:48.440 I mean, if we end up with a toll on the Straits of Hormuz 43:48.440 --> 43:50.140 and the Iranian establishment, 43:50.360 --> 43:52.320 the US establishment rake in some cash, 43:53.460 --> 43:56.440 I don't know that that's a real win here. 43:58.300 --> 44:02.700 I want actual accountability for the horrific war crimes 44:02.700 --> 44:07.000 that the US and Israeli governments have committed. 44:07.180 --> 44:10.400 And I want actual freedom for the people of the region, 44:10.500 --> 44:11.420 not just the Palestinians, 44:12.820 --> 44:14.520 but the people throughout the region. 44:14.660 --> 44:22.220 And in some cases, I made a slight foray into poetry 44:22.220 --> 44:23.620 at the height of the pandemic. 44:23.780 --> 44:26.460 I wrote a piece, Palestine Will Free Us All, 44:27.940 --> 44:33.260 which was basically about everything from seeing through 44:33.260 --> 44:38.340 the diabolical intricacies of the party or the duopoly, 44:38.540 --> 44:39.640 whatever you want to call it, 44:39.760 --> 44:43.700 to people in various countries, Arab and otherwise, 44:44.000 --> 44:48.280 seeing through the duplicities and complicities 44:48.280 --> 44:53.800 of their governments and seeing through the fact 44:53.800 --> 44:56.580 that we have what's basically a Palestine laboratory 44:56.580 --> 45:00.120 of surveillance and so on that will affect 45:00.720 --> 45:02.460 and is affecting all of us, 45:02.480 --> 45:05.420 where they try out their surveillance and drones 45:05.420 --> 45:09.100 and other mechanisms of control on Palestinians 45:09.100 --> 45:12.460 and then rule them out to others. 45:13.000 --> 45:18.020 And that if there's a strong enough solidarity effort 45:18.020 --> 45:22.080 that Palestine, the issue of Palestine 45:22.920 --> 45:24.480 will free us all. 45:27.820 --> 45:31.640 So, I don't know where the cracks are gonna emerge. 45:31.820 --> 45:33.760 I mean, they could emerge in the US military. 45:36.540 --> 45:39.440 They could emerge on the Arab street, 45:39.560 --> 45:41.200 they could emerge in the citizenry, 45:41.220 --> 45:43.660 in districts around the US. 45:43.880 --> 45:46.460 I mean, I'm certainly hoping that one effect of my campaign 45:46.460 --> 45:49.320 will be to galvanize the people in this district, 45:49.320 --> 45:51.520 but also to indicate, 45:51.800 --> 45:56.520 how can we strategically use campaigns? 45:56.920 --> 45:58.620 I mean, Malcolm X always talked about, 46:00.080 --> 46:02.740 I'm for anything that is intelligent. 46:04.260 --> 46:08.200 In the past, I bet we've talked about this, Ryan. 46:08.980 --> 46:13.520 I've talked about vote pact, disenchanted Democrat, 46:13.760 --> 46:15.300 disenchanted Republican pair up 46:15.300 --> 46:16.920 and both vote for a third party. 46:17.380 --> 46:19.620 I haven't emphasized that in this campaign 46:19.620 --> 46:24.800 because my current district is overwhelmingly Democrat. 46:28.200 --> 46:30.360 It's very deep blue and on the face of it, 46:30.400 --> 46:31.280 it's quite establishment. 46:31.500 --> 46:33.660 I mean, Bernie Sanders did very poorly here 46:34.520 --> 46:43.100 in primaries in 2016 and 2000 against Clinton and Biden. 46:44.800 --> 46:49.080 But I do think that there's a restlessness beneath the surface 46:49.080 --> 46:51.840 that I'm hoping to tap into 46:51.840 --> 46:54.500 and hoping to activate. 46:56.020 --> 46:58.580 And obviously with this Iran war, 46:58.660 --> 46:59.840 going back to your question, 47:01.180 --> 47:02.460 just on the face of it, 47:02.560 --> 47:08.220 costing people according to Moody's $700 per month, 47:08.300 --> 47:10.320 just an increased fuel and other costs. 47:10.320 --> 47:13.380 Never mind the toll as taxpayers. 47:17.270 --> 47:21.880 That should jolt people out of this sleepwalking 47:21.880 --> 47:25.940 and thinking that putting in a completely establishment 47:25.940 --> 47:28.660 Democrat, Glen Ivy, my Democratic opponent, 47:28.880 --> 47:32.100 who ran over to Israel twice, at least 47:33.200 --> 47:35.940 during the height of the genocide to meet 47:35.940 --> 47:38.780 with quote unquote Netanyahu, 47:40.700 --> 47:45.100 and was put in, as I mentioned earlier, with APEC money. 47:45.140 --> 47:49.140 He defeated Donna Edwards back in 2022, 47:51.940 --> 47:53.500 who was a Democrat, 47:53.840 --> 47:55.940 but was as good of a Democrat as you're gonna, 47:56.020 --> 47:58.240 she actually went to Gaza in 2009. 47:58.900 --> 48:02.180 So I think that that put a target on her back 48:02.760 --> 48:04.140 in the APEC circle. 48:04.260 --> 48:08.680 So when they saw their chance in 2022, they knocked her out. 48:08.680 --> 48:09.580 She ran for the Senate, 48:09.860 --> 48:11.820 lost, tried to win her house seat back, 48:11.940 --> 48:12.900 and that's when they got her. 48:15.040 --> 48:19.280 So the system is diabolical. 48:19.460 --> 48:20.840 There's no question about that. 48:21.040 --> 48:24.200 The question is, what tools can we use? 48:24.420 --> 48:29.700 Media, art, comedy, legal mechanisms, 48:29.960 --> 48:34.320 activism, obviously, or what combination of those 48:34.320 --> 48:38.480 can we use in order to meaningfully change things? 48:38.480 --> 48:41.680 And that's what I'm trying to do right now. 48:41.760 --> 48:45.160 If I can plug the website, samhuseini.com, 48:47.740 --> 48:50.940 for the campaign, obviously people can donate, 48:50.960 --> 48:52.000 but they can volunteer. 48:52.260 --> 48:53.700 We're gonna be setting up phone banking, 48:54.440 --> 48:58.220 and we're gonna be trying to generate these PDFs 48:58.220 --> 49:00.760 and hoping that people can be passing them out, 49:00.880 --> 49:05.540 can be really meaningfully engaging the public square. 49:08.200 --> 49:11.420 And yeah, it's, you know, it's ringing the bells 49:11.420 --> 49:12.560 that still can ring. 49:12.800 --> 49:16.080 I don't, I got my problems with Leonard Cohen too, 49:17.280 --> 49:19.700 but that goes through my mind a lot. 49:20.520 --> 49:21.780 Well, I'm glad to hear it, Sam. 49:21.980 --> 49:24.480 And, you know, I think that this is, you know, 49:25.020 --> 49:27.240 like I said before, I think you have good intentions. 49:27.760 --> 49:28.640 I think you have, you know, 49:28.860 --> 49:30.100 I think what you want to do 49:30.100 --> 49:31.400 is what I would like to see happen. 49:31.580 --> 49:34.100 So in so far as that goes, I support you with that. 49:34.100 --> 49:35.320 But I, you know, like I said, 49:35.440 --> 49:36.820 I just don't think the system is something, 49:36.940 --> 49:39.220 I don't think I'm gonna be voting any time soon, 49:39.240 --> 49:40.020 but that way. 49:40.300 --> 49:41.920 But I just, I hope people will support you either way. 49:41.940 --> 49:43.640 And if you think the voting makes a difference in this, 49:43.680 --> 49:44.760 and I advocate that you do it, 49:44.760 --> 49:47.100 because I believe that Sam has good intentions here. 49:47.320 --> 49:49.440 But, you know, it's nice to see this even get talked about. 49:49.780 --> 49:50.960 That's what's so crazy about this. 49:51.040 --> 49:52.500 I mean, it just lasts depending on the way out. 49:52.840 --> 49:53.720 Don't you find it insane 49:53.720 --> 49:55.460 that these things are even being discussed right now? 49:55.700 --> 49:57.960 I mean, 20, I mean, a couple of years ago, 49:58.040 --> 49:59.620 I wouldn't have said we would be discussing 49:59.620 --> 50:01.600 what Israel was doing the way that we are, 50:01.860 --> 50:03.600 discussing some of these things and such, you know, 50:03.600 --> 50:05.120 it's become surface level. 50:05.280 --> 50:06.980 And I think that that is a testament 50:06.980 --> 50:08.400 to the power of independent media 50:08.400 --> 50:10.140 and people like yourself, journalists out there 50:10.140 --> 50:11.760 who are just, you know, have principles 50:11.760 --> 50:12.600 and care about the truth 50:12.600 --> 50:13.800 and try to fight to get it out there. 50:14.000 --> 50:15.080 I think there's a win there. 50:15.320 --> 50:16.440 You know, and I think that's like I said, 50:16.480 --> 50:18.180 why a lot of this negative stuff is happening. 50:18.200 --> 50:19.440 So as much as it's, you know, 50:19.500 --> 50:20.520 kind of darker before the dawn, 50:20.720 --> 50:21.700 you know, darkest before the dawn, 50:21.800 --> 50:23.580 I do think that we're having positive momentum. 50:23.800 --> 50:25.020 And so I hope that people can see that 50:25.020 --> 50:26.860 with what you're doing as well and support you. 50:27.140 --> 50:29.460 So any other final thoughts before we wrap up today, Sam? 50:29.700 --> 50:30.980 Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, 50:30.980 --> 50:33.420 people have pointed to a change in public opinion polls. 50:33.760 --> 50:35.980 I mean, I'm still amazed that anybody says 50:35.980 --> 50:39.540 that they support Israel after what we've seen. 50:40.040 --> 50:42.440 So, and, you know, and, you know, 50:42.540 --> 50:44.300 I mean, who would have thought three years ago 50:44.300 --> 50:46.000 that they could get away with all of this 50:47.700 --> 50:49.960 and Netanyahu's still be in power 50:49.960 --> 50:53.160 and so on and so forth. 50:55.260 --> 50:57.760 So I think that they have gotten away 50:57.760 --> 50:58.680 with a hell of a lot. 50:59.800 --> 51:02.460 And I'm sort of, you know, in this part, 51:02.560 --> 51:04.300 one of the things that I'm doing with this candidacy 51:04.300 --> 51:07.040 is saying, okay, there's supposed to be this shift 51:07.040 --> 51:07.860 in public opinion. 51:08.260 --> 51:09.120 Where is it? 51:09.720 --> 51:13.280 You know, it can't just simply be two or three races 51:13.280 --> 51:16.540 in New York and maybe a senatorial race in Michigan 51:17.020 --> 51:19.360 of people who you're not even sure 51:19.360 --> 51:21.200 they're really gonna put their shoulder to the wheel 51:21.200 --> 51:23.340 if they get into office, right? 51:24.140 --> 51:27.220 You know, I mean, I'll say he has already said 51:27.220 --> 51:31.020 that he will not, that they so fervently 51:31.020 --> 51:32.080 against the filibuster. 51:32.340 --> 51:34.480 Well, that's the main thing that a senator can do. 51:35.320 --> 51:39.040 A sole senator, if you want one senator to stand up to APAC, 51:39.480 --> 51:40.760 the first thing that they would do 51:40.760 --> 51:43.920 is use the filibuster to call out everybody else. 51:44.880 --> 51:46.600 And he's already positioning himself 51:46.600 --> 51:49.020 to not be in a position of doing that. 51:51.040 --> 51:55.000 So I'm sort of calling everybody on, 51:55.660 --> 52:00.460 is there really a big transformation in public opinion 52:00.460 --> 52:02.820 and where is it manifesting itself 52:02.820 --> 52:05.500 in a way that will actually make a difference 52:05.500 --> 52:07.240 or will the system consolidate? 52:07.720 --> 52:10.420 Just like it consolidated after the Iraq War, 52:10.800 --> 52:13.500 just like it consolidated after the end of the Cold War, 52:13.720 --> 52:18.280 just like it consolidated after the Vietnam War. 52:18.800 --> 52:20.080 And enough consolidation. 52:20.540 --> 52:23.340 We have to find ways of breaking with the system. 52:24.100 --> 52:27.820 And that's part of what's galvanizing me to do this 52:27.820 --> 52:29.580 and to do it in the way that I'm doing it. 52:29.600 --> 52:30.600 I'm not simply running. 52:30.880 --> 52:33.960 I'm saying I'm going to run an activist campaign 52:33.960 --> 52:38.600 that is trying to activate a particular district 52:38.600 --> 52:40.140 right outside of Washington, DC 52:40.570 --> 52:42.460 that has a lot of government workers. 52:43.060 --> 52:46.340 That means a lot of potential whistleblowers, right? 52:47.200 --> 52:50.600 That means if there's a real systemic shift 52:50.600 --> 52:55.720 in pockets of this country that really changed, 52:55.940 --> 52:58.920 then that begins to crumble the edifice of empire 52:59.460 --> 53:02.400 and something truly beautiful emerging from that. 53:03.000 --> 53:04.140 Well, I'd love to hear it, Sam. 53:04.500 --> 53:05.460 And I hope you the best. 53:05.500 --> 53:07.820 I wish the best and I hope that you actually succeed in this. 53:08.020 --> 53:08.920 And at the very least, 53:08.960 --> 53:10.520 I hope that your efforts will bring attention 53:10.520 --> 53:12.500 to some of the things that people aren't thinking about. 53:12.900 --> 53:14.980 So hopefully we can follow up during it, 53:15.000 --> 53:16.980 afterward and continue to talk about this, Sam. 53:17.080 --> 53:17.900 So I appreciate your work. 53:18.460 --> 53:19.640 Keep me accountable, Ryan. 53:20.000 --> 53:21.360 I will, trust me, you know I will. 53:22.520 --> 53:23.060 Thank you. 53:23.140 --> 53:24.100 I'll move it there for today. 53:24.340 --> 53:26.040 As always, everybody out there, question everything. 53:26.340 --> 53:27.220 Come to your own conclusions. 53:27.740 --> 53:28.280 Stay vigilant. 53:31.420 --> 53:33.540 From the president's office in the White House 53:33.540 --> 53:34.560 in Washington, DC, 53:34.920 --> 53:36.520 we present an address by the president 53:36.520 --> 53:38.600 of the United States Dwight D. Eisenhower. 53:39.100 --> 53:42.680 In holding scientific research and discovery in respect, 53:43.300 --> 53:46.200 as we should, we must also be alert 53:46.620 --> 53:48.580 to the equal and opposite danger 53:48.720 --> 53:52.760 that public policy could itself become the captive 53:52.760 --> 53:56.740 of a scientific technological elite.