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fighter jets shot down by Iran. President Donald Trump was briefed as a search and rescue operation

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continued. Nicarpa reports from Washington.

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Videos show a U.S. transport plane and Black Hawk helicopter in the skies over Iran, apparently

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involved in the rescue mission. Officials say one of the crew has now been rescued

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and is receiving hospital treatment. The whereabouts of the second crew member

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are still unknown. The downed jet was reportedly a two-seater F-15E fighter jet with a two-man

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crew. It comes after U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said the U.S. had air superiority

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above Iran and could operate virtually unchallenged over the country.

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Meanwhile, a spokesperson for the Iranian military this week warned of incoming crushing,

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broader and destructive attacks after the U.S. president said the war would continue

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for another two to three weeks. In a speech to the nation, Donald Trump said the U.S. is

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on track to soon complete all of its military objectives against Iran. Ross Callen reports.

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The response from Tehran after the primetime speech from the U.S. leader was a warning

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that the U.S. and Israel quote, must pay for the aggression you initiated. A military

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spokesperson said Iran's military production takes place in places that you don't know

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at all, rejecting claims made by the United States leader that Iran's weapons stockpile

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had been widely depleted. There's no sign of a ceasefire in sight at the moment with Iran's

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foreign ministry rejecting Donald Trump's claim that the country had asked for a halt to the

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fighting as baseless.

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Meanwhile, U.S. Supreme Court justices cast doubt on President Trump's attempts to restrict

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birthright citizenship, one of his most ambitious policy endeavors. The president

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took the unprecedented step of attending the High Court for oral arguments as conservative

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and liberal justices questioned the legality of his attempt to block the children of illegal

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immigrants born on U.S. soil from automatically becoming citizens. Kate Fisher reports from

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the U.S. Supreme Court.

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Quite the welcome for President Donald Trump as he became the first sitting president

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to hear oral arguments at the Supreme Court over whether his executive order limiting

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birthright citizenship is legal. One of his arguments is that if unrestricted it

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leads to so-called birth tourism where pregnant women travel to the U.S. to give birth so that

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their baby can have American citizenship. But the Chief Justice John Roberts seems skeptical.

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The justices also had vigorous questions for ACLU lawyer Cecilia Wang, but she found

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notably less resistance in her defense of birthright citizenship. The decision is

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expected by the end of June or early July.

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Canadian astronaut Jeremy Henson sees he and his team are feeling pretty good as the Orion

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spacecraft takes them to the far side of the moon. The four astronauts are now hundreds

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of thousands of miles from Earth as part of NASA's Artemis II mission. Stuart Smith

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has more.

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The trip will take the astronauts further from Earth than anyone has been before

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in a mission to observe but not land on the far side of the moon, which is never

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visible from Earth. After slingshotting around the Earth a few times to build

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up momentum and the right trajectory, the crew are now directly on their way to the

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moon and are the first people to leave the Earth's orbit since the 1970s.

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There's still a few days from reaching the moon, though, and in the meantime they'll

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check their equipment, control systems, and plan for the observations they'll be

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doing when they get close. In their first public video call since launching,

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Commander Reed Wiseman gave an update on their situation.

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And finally this week Pakistan and Afghanistan resume talks in China with

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Beijing mediating to calm tensions between the two sides. This comes as

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Middle East turmoil fuels wider regional instability. Analysts warn that easing

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pressure along the Afghan border is essential as Pakistan's military faces

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the risk of being stretched across both its Western and Iranian frontiers.

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Hiram Ustafa reports from Islamabad.

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Pakistani officials say the talks aim to find common ground to tackle

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terrorists allegedly operating from Afghanistan and charge Kabul to nice.

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Beijing is mediating to try to broker a ceasefire. Clashes between the two

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neighbors since February have been the most intense in decades,

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leaving dozens injured on both sides of the border. Pakistan and Afghanistan

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representatives are meeting in China's northern city of Arumchi.

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Experts stress that stability in Pakistan's western border region is crucial,

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especially amid uncertainty in Iran.

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With Islamabad sharing a 900 kilometers border with Iran,

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any instability there could put additional strain on Pakistan's military.

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And the radio bill.

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So, I don't watch the news. I don't know what's going on.

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I don't watch the news much either. I do pay attention to news stories, though.

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Three hours ago, second US fighter jet down by Strait of Hormuz as search for F-15E crew

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member in something, something. You know, the US government can definitely use that

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as a way to bolster their war with Iran, couldn't they? They could say, oh.

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Not in my opinion. That's a clear identifier that maybe you should just give up now.

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I agree with you, Stu, but-

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A whole lot more.

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They're not going to think that way. They don't think this way.

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Well, Trump certainly not.

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No, I'm sure Trump doesn't think this way. And I don't think a lot of people,

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well, maybe a lot of people in the administration are going to think like us.

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But we have these, excuse me, we have these people who think they own the right

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to go shoot anybody anywhere else in the world for America's interest.

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Yeah. It'll be interesting to see how Trump deals with this, because he's not the kind

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of guy that wants to back down, right? He's part of the deal, guys. So he goes in there

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with way more than he expects to get.

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Yep, he makes a big deal and wants people to-

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But in this case, Iran's just kind of like, no, we're not doing any of that.

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So keep it up, because we'll do this as long as you want.

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Trump's just like, okay. So it kind of sounds like he's making stuff up, but I don't know.

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Well, he is a show man. So be aware of that. And he's just putting on a show for the people

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who believe him or the people that don't. So I don't know. It's just this.

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Yeah, it's just kind of doing it on the fly.

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Yeah, it sure seems that way. And it's really, really frustrating that it is that way.

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Yeah, well, I guess we'll talk about this. I don't want to talk about this.

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There's got to be something better than talking about Trump.

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Oh, come on, dude. Don't you want to be like everyone else to talk about Trump?

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I don't want to hurt about. Bitcoin apparently is compromised by the Google entity.

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Did you hear about that one?

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No, I didn't. Tell me more.

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From what I hear, Google now claims to have quantum computing sufficient to hack Bitcoin

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and do whatever they want with it.

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So that would cause a serious problem.

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It definitely would. I mean, Bitcoin is not a private thing like a lot of people think.

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But that being said, you know, if Google or some entity could hack the Bitcoin network

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and be like, hey, I might take some Bitcoin from the stewardess by hacking his wallet,

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they definitely could. That'd be really bad.

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Yeah. And we did a story a little while ago about the Monero chain being

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under threat of 51% attack by another protocol called Qubits.

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I remember that story. Yeah.

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That didn't seem to go anywhere. So maybe they were bluffing. Maybe Google's bluffing.

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Maybe.

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And if they're not bluffing, would it really be in their interest to tell people that they could

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hack Bitcoin instead of just kind of keeping that card up their sleeve?

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I think it would be in their best interest to keep it up their sleeve so they do a surprise attack.

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However, we all know that if Google has the ability to do whatever they want to Bitcoin,

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that by extension also means U.S. government has the ability.

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That's entirely possible. I think that's the big concern that I have as someone who

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may or may not hold Bitcoin, but I know friends who do and I'm more concerned about their wallets

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and them getting hacked by some like like an entity like Google and their money stolen

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from them because we know that can happen. We know that people can steal your debit card or

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credit card and buy things that you notice. And we know that if Google or someone like them hacks

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your networks or hacks the ledger and steals money from your account, that is one of the things that

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would lead me to believe that they're harmful organization.

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Well, let's read about this and see what's actually going on with it.

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All right. This is from, this is from CoinDesk by Sharia Malwa.

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Here's what cracking Bitcoin in nine minutes by quantum computers actually means.

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Google's quantum AI team said earlier this week that a future quantum computer could derive

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a Bitcoin private key from a public key in roughly nine minutes. The number ricocheted across social

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media and spooked markets, but what does it actually mean in practice? Let's start with how Bitcoin

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transactions work. When you send Bitcoin, your wallet signs the transaction with the private

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key, a secret number that proves you own the coins. That signature also reveals your public

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key, a shareable address which gets broadcast to the network and sits in a waiting area called

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the men pool until the miner includes it in a block. On average, that confirmation takes about

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10 minutes. Your private key and public key are linked by a math problem called the elliptic curve

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discrete logarithmic problem. Classical computers can't reverse that math in any useful time frame

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while a sufficiently powerful future quantum computer running an algorithm called Shores could.

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Shores is spelled S H O R. Okay. Here's where the nine minutes parts comes in. Google's paper found

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that a quantum computer could be primed in advance by pre-computing the parts of the attack that

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don't depend on any specific public key. Once your public key appears in the men pool,

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the machine only needs about nine minutes to finish the job and derive your private key.

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Bitcoin's average confirmation time is 10 minutes. That gives the attacker roughly 41% chance of

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deriving your key and redirecting your funds before the original transaction confirms.

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So I've got a question and maybe some of the listeners out there might have the same question.

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What is the difference between my private key from my Bitcoin wallet and the public key?

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Is the public key the Bitcoin address that I send my funds that send the funds to?

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Your public key is a very complicated mathematical product of what the private key is.

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So you do something with real complicated math to the private key

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and that's how you get the public key and that's how that's how it knows it's linked.

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Okay. That's my rudimentary understanding of it.

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All right. Let's see. Think of it like a thief spending hours building a universal safe

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cracking machine pre-computation. The machine works for any safe but each time a new safe

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appears it only needs a few final adjustments and that last step is what takes about nine minutes.

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That's the mempool attack. It's alarming but requires a quantum computer that doesn't exist yet.

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Google's paper estimates such a machine would need fewer than 500,000 physical qubits.

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Today's largest quantum processors have around 1,000.

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The bigger and more immediate concern is the 6.9 million Bitcoin,

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roughly one-third of the total supply, that already sit in wallets where the public

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key has been permanently exposed. This includes early Bitcoin addresses from the network's first

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years that used a format called pay to public key where the public key is visible on the

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blockchain by default. It also includes any wallet that has reused an address since spending

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from an address since spending from an address reveals the public key for all remaining funds.

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Well that makes sense so if you've put an address out there in a transaction previously

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then the quantum computer could figure out the private key from it and it just needs

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to wait for that address. That's a little concerning honestly because

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I'm sure there are some people out there that send to the same address or receive to

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the same address for whatever reason and so if it's been used repeatedly for you to get

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funds for your project or if you're a creator and you are getting paid through Bitcoin and you

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have your public address out there that address could be used to essentially hack your wallet?

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Is that what they're trying to tell us? Yes if you reuse the same address it makes it more

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vulnerable to well we already knew that it made it more vulnerable to being spied on

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so I made it less private if you reuse the same address so a lot of us are already in the

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practice of generating a new address for each transaction it's just it's just best practice

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so there's that but you know a lot of people don't they haven't listened to that they just you

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know they just see how it works and maybe they use the same address forever. I definitely need to

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be better at using different addresses because I got I got in the habit of using similar addresses

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or same address or whatever for a period of time and you know for my podcast I have

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crypto addresses that are virtually the same so and there are ways to there are ways to make it

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secure again like you can use one address like I know I know Ian had had a Bitcoin address that

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started with one FTL Ian and because you could get vanity addresses at some point I don't know

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if you still can but yeah he had that one he used it you know repeatedly which is fine

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what you would want to do with an address like that and I have no idea what his practices were but

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what you would normally want to do is take that Bitcoin and send it to a different wallet

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or send it through a mixer even better to a different wallet so that makes sense like

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using a mixer sounds like a good idea to hide your transactions and you know

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thwart people looking at your addresses right you and you generally have like

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you know cold storage wallets and so the so that if one goes down or you lose it or something

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it's not all of it yes you know split up and anyways

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go on with the story these coins don't need the nine minute race an attacker with a sufficient

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powerful quantum computer could crack them at leisure working through exposed keys one by one

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without any time pressure bitcoins 2021 taproot upgrade made this worse as coin desk reported

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earlier Tuesday taproot changed how addresses work so that public keys are visible on chain

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by default inadvertently expanding the pool of wallets that would be vulnerable to a future

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quantum attack good job good job core developers yep yep making everything worse yeah I mean

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you halfway ruined it when you did segway in 2017 you just keep making a worse and worse pretty

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sooner to be what is there any call it uh fed fed gov dot sucks coin it wouldn't surprise me if it

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got to that point because we know for a fact we believe here on at least I believe that

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the Bitcoin network has been hijacked by blockstream people this is why we have Bitcoin cash

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the crypto wars have not ended and now with the quantum computing I just had the thought that maybe

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if the government through a private entity decided oh we're gonna we're gonna just use

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this computer and take people's Bitcoin for the good of the country so we can put it in our

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reserve they could easily do so and that would not be good for the people holding Bitcoin

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yeah um what I mean it would make the entire Bitcoin network useless if you had a spook in

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the system just going around robbing people's wallets word would get around fast so it says here the

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Bitcoin network itself would keep running mining uses a different algorithm called Shaw 256

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that quantum computers can't meaningfully speed up with current approaches blocks would still

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be produced the ledger would still exist but if private keys can be derived from public keys

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the ownership guarantees that that mate the ownership guarantees that make Bitcoin valuable

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breakdown anyone with exposed keys is at risk of theft and institutional trust in the network

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security model collapses the fix is post quantum cryptography which replaces the

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vulnerable math with algorithms that quantum computers can't crack ethereum has spent eight

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years building toward that migration bitcoin hasn't even started that's the end of that article

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um you know this this is a struggle that I saw as being an ongoing thing

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yeah and it's it's a serious problem because because if you get what are the

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one of the largest uh most capable entities in the world right now it might be governments

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it might be banks either one of those you don't really want mess with your money right and so

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all they have to do is amass the most computing power and they're in control of the money system

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and that's a problem see what I'm saying I do see what you're saying I I understand where

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you're coming from because when the banks are on the money they can do whatever they want with

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it they can turn off your bank account they can say sue is not thinking the same things we are

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sue is saying bad things we gotta cut them off he's an apostate yeah look at what they've been

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doing to you in the the last 115 years or so the bankers and uh imagine what they could do

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with the digital currency telling you oh you've reached your you've reached your beef limit

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for this month so sorry you already ate a pounder and a half and that's all you get for the whole month

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or you fit your coffee limit for the month mm-hmm you're gonna make sure you don't drink too much

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coffee after all we're the government we're here for your help yeah yeah it's none of their business

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right I don't know I don't know how many of you like I know a lot of you want to be told

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what to do or whatever because you're lazy in your brain eat some brazil nuts it'll help

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with that eat too many in fact go on the internet read about it it'll tell you you get selenosis if

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you eat too many brazil nuts selenosis is the condition which will cure most likely your slow brain

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because it's full of aluminum and fluoride and selenium is the thing that flushes it out

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but they'll tell you it's very dangerous but don't I mean go ahead and read on and find out

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how much selenium you actually have to have in order to like die from it or have permanent damage

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and uh you're not going to eat that many brazil nuts so go ahead and chow down on them clean your

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brain out it'll work a lot better I had how many brazil nuts I drank a lot of fluoride in my youth

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I think how many brazil nuts should I have to make that happen every day I don't know

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start with 10 see how that works if you can eat more good 20 eat 20 eat 30 a day I don't know

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have you tried eating 20 to 30 a day I think I did like at the most it um you're um you're

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you'll know when you go to the bathroom if you're eating too many of them

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we'll put it that way all right just listen to your body on that but yeah makes sense yeah eat

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them for a while and just let it do its thing also iodine will help uh so those are those are my

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tips for getting your brain working again but uh for those of you that like to be told what to do

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just imagine a world in which you're told down to the very minute detail like how much gas you

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get to use this month how much beef you get to eat how much grains uh you know like this is

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this sounds like a nightmare to me they they already micromanage

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too much of my life um and I don't know other people seem like they're somewhere around the

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threshold of being like that he has micromanage too much but people's capacity to be just told

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what to do is mind blowing to me but but I I don't know I suppose I'm one of those with that

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what do they call it well you would be an outlier and I think in some sense I would be too because

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I don't like being told what to do and so my question is like why do you think people

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feel like they want to be told what to do or they go toward a quote-unquote leader in whatever

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situation may arise like for instance there's a fire and you hear someone say follow me I'll

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lead you out and look follow that person why do you think people gravitate to those kinds of

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people um it's some combination of lazy scared stupid and so a lot of people want to attribute

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it to stupid when you're on the other side you can see um you know what it is then people want

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to call it stupid and I have that tendency too but it's not always necessarily stupid because

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if you look closely at the people who are you know the most the most voracious follow orders

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they're really smart and they've figured out where the incentives are and they do it really well

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to me that's uh that's soul crushing and I could never take that route but some people are really

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good at it you know just um you would you would call them the teacher's pet in class or something

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yeah so uh and they're you know a lot of them are incredibly intelligent but they use all

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that incentive and hit the next you know check checkpoint on the list in order to get themselves

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in the good graces of whoever's telling them what to do and a lot of times for those people it's

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because they're scared of um you know they've been told there's a boogeyman out there right there's

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we're here to protect you for your parents going through the mail or there's um you know

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there's a crazy christian cult that's having sex with children in waco texas or there's

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you know there's always something to be scared of and and people want someone to take that thing

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the boogeyman away and so yeah it makes sense that they wanted later to do that

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and uh whereas like most of these things are made up and if if you just sat down and thought

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about it real closely like what what is iran gonna do to me right here in new hampshire

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probably not a whole lot i mean maybe maybe if maybe if the goons up top keep acting the way

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they do then maybe they will but to me it seems like um even i don't know honestly i've i've seen

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a little bit of what it's like in iran and it's not the worst kind of middle eastern hellscape

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that you could imagine that's more like um saudi arabia which is good yeah good friends with the

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us yep and um you know people live in a place like that i'm of the opinion fine go ahead and let them

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because they're not gonna come here and affect me with it and i'll even trade with them i just

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don't want to go there you know what i mean uh same thing with like uh the f lds in southern

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utah i'm all in favor of just letting them do their thing me too i mean because because what's

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the alternative well we could go in there and bust up their families and make sure they

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you know aren't marrying off 14 year old girls yep and they've they've done that from time to time

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and what is it what is it solved i don't think it's solved anything honestly i think it's

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broken up the group quite a bit but yeah they moved some of them out to texas and some of them

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are still you also have more hearted followers they increase they actually increased quite a bit

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the the actual human heartache that went on within that community oh yeah uh the story that

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that unfolds after the arrest of warren jeffs is that's tragedy even though the man was a monster

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it was almost better off if they if they just let it go and let the community deal with it

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themselves because this guy wasn't going to go on the way he was for now i'm sure he wasn't

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i'm sure when everything came out he was going to strip clubs he was yeah spending all kinds of

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money on that he was a sinner and he was going to get exposed and and taken down by his own

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community yeah and when and when the government found out they're like well we gotta stop this guy

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we're right they're right here right now and so that led to raids that led to you know the flds

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being hardened being more willing to follow warren jeffs i should say yeah yeah from prison too and

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now he just gives orders from prison and he tells he's just breaking up families from there

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and you know lots and lots of tears from it so good job good job on that one uh and that's

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why they handle these things i don't know are you in favor of strong arm intervention into the lives

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story news in washington i'm nick harper the u.s says it's rescued one of the two crew members

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from a fighter jet that was shot down by iran president donald trump has been briefed on the

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situation as the search and rescue operation continues for the second person in that crew

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videos show a u.s transport plane and blackhawk helicopter in the skies over iran apparently

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involved in that mission the down jet was reportedly a two-seater f-15e fighter jet

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with a two-man crew it comes after u.s defense secretary pete hegseth said the u.s had air

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superiority over iran and could operate virtually unchallenged over the country

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the cuban government is releasing 2000 prisoners in what it's calling a humanitarian and sovereign

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gesture it comes as washington has been putting increasing pressure on cuba in recent months

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including through a month's long oil blockade of the island ever sends mitch mccann reports

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cuba's embassy in washington see the release of the prisoners is designed to coincide with

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holy week an important religious occasion in a country that's largely catholic according to the

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new york times the prisoner release includes young people those over 60 foreign nationals

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and cubans who live overseas it's unclear if cuba's decision is to appease washington

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whose oil blockade has contributed to devastating power outages in recent months

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in march donald trump told reporters he believed that he would have the honor of taking cuba

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without providing further explanation as to what he meant mitch mccann new york

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canadian astronaut jeremy hansen says he and his team are feeling pretty good as their

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iran spacecraft takes them to the far side of the moon the four astronauts are now hundreds of

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thousands of miles from the earth as part of nasa's artemist two mission

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efsen stewart smith has more the trip will take the astronauts further from earth than anyone

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has been before in a mission to observe but not land on the far side of the moon

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which is never visible from earth after slingshotting around the earth a few times to build up

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momentum and the right trajectory the crew are now directly on their way to the moon

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and are the first people to leave the earth's orbit since the 1970s there's still a few days

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from reaching the moon though and in the meantime they'll check their equipment control systems

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and plan for the observations they'll be doing when they get close

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in their first public video call since launching commander read wiseman gave an update on their

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situation those pretty tense moments there for a for a second and i gotta tell you there is

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nothing normal about this sending four humans 250 000 miles away is a herculean effort and

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we are now just realizing the gravity of that the u.s economy added 178 000 jobs in march above

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expectations the u.s unemployment rate dropped slightly to 4.3 percent from bureaus worldwide

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a caller on the line excellent from las vegas nevada i suspect that it might be one of our

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usual callers but let's find out las vegas nevada you're on free talk live what's on your mind

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you know yeah you know a leadership can be a good thing because value is objective

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and you know what in when did i say leadership is not a good thing let's stick with that one

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let's go with that one you're talking about brazilian nuts

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yeah you're talking about brazilian nuts yeah what about it but that wasn't the context

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of people thinking for themselves or did you not hear that part compulsory even compulsory

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leadership right there's there's things called you know objective value acknowledges fine compulsory

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too i'm okay with that even aggressive leadership even fine sometimes yes but it has to be legitimate

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or not the difference where from when does it derive its legitimacy that's that's the issue

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at hand from objective value from nothing then because that's not existed so people should make

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decisions so the allocation of decision making a mark is determined who has money right right makes

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might right makes might or might makes right makes might not necessarily all the time charitable

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things happen right makes might right makes might right so right this is making this making

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good decisions where it increases total productivity for society right that's where objective value

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comes from right if i make a decision even for somebody else as long as it maximizes total

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productivity it's a good thing no this is why no because aggression because what you value

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as being productive might not be the same thing that i value

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you know what objective means stew you might want toilet paper made and i might use a bidet

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you see what i'm saying do you know what objective means stew yes i know what it means

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are you universal not exactly but almost about people's opinions why are you talking about

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people's opinions right it's whoever's opinion because there's no objective value

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tell me one thing that has objective value one thing tell me like okay just things like

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what gdp is trying to measure trying to measure right no that's so easily debunked like why don't

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you go for why don't you go for the low hanging fruit like air isn't that no because some people

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can slow their heart rate to like eight beats per minute and they don't value the air the same

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way that you do straight to the point things like profit imperfectly but are trying to measure

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objective value right anytime we do a decision a decision right we're rewarded with either

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profit or loss from the market right you agree with that right and it's kind of evolutionary

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right and evolution to gain through they call it fit and evolution evolutionary fitness

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in the market we call it profit and loss these are all things that are trying to measure objective

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value but they cannot do it perfectly you know why because the conceptual the measurement

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huh no yes because they're conceptual you're trying to quantify something that's not

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necessarily quantifiable it is quantifiable no see and that's the problem that's the problem

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with modern scientific and and mathematical thought is that it thinks everything can be

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quantified but it cannot it can be caught even your thoughts can be qualified no don't you don't

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you think one day we'll be able to put your thoughts on a tv screen on a digital screen i hope

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not not horrifying they're already they're already starting to do that yeah i know it's coming

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quantify your thoughts your feelings these are all this is this is this is the false narrative

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put forth by the austrian school right they just because they're scared of people

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planning for others this is why they want value to be subjective they don't want people

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making decisions for other people but it was not it's because not it's because the same thing

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doesn't bring us all joy that's why do you think do you think you need to aggressively

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make decisions for your kids stew um occasionally it gets to the point of aggressive yeah

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why is that because that's the natural order of things

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because their opinions are wrong they deviate from total pro you have a sense

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that productivity is ultimately good right what if their kids were a piece of crap like richy rich

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right what if they didn't what if you knew what if you knew they didn't work all day right

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they would never they would never work like that's fine you know when i'm playing on my deathbed

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and i'm looking back at life and i'm like and i'm like oh all the things i wish i would have

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done more of work is not going to be on that list i can guarantee it and i work plenty but i'm it's

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not i'm not going to wish i had worked more there's no way so work is not a value in and

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of itself don't give me that calvin of stick crap you probably you probably still spend most

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of your day working right and the rest of it recovering for work or raising your kids so that

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they can work in the future it's all this product it's all this production cycle that's your only

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yeah but it's toward what i value not what the market values see the market values you don't even

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the market values you don't even orios and twinkies and um and junk food and disposable

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appliances right and uh cheap throw away everything that and that's not where i place my value with

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that you don't want things to last forever for some things yeah i want them i want them disposable

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forever now some things i want disposable my car i don't want disposable i want that to last forever

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yeah yeah you do you you want you want to dispose of it as soon as it becomes obsolete

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with the new technology no i don't right no i don't like the new technology i barely

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trust cruise control i don't want anything on store or newer would you drive the model t forever

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no because that's not because that was not the people shouldn't make their own decisions

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this is this is why i can't draw the line somewhere do you know what's the happiest

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population in america skeeter what's that do you know what's the happy happiest

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subset of the population in america the happiest group

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date of americans no it's the amish

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the amish yeah yep they report a far a far higher uh happiness quotient in their life

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than the rest of america so how do you explain that uh where does okay where does the net

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migration go to the amish communities um how do people vote how will do people

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demonstrate that they're you know what they feel i mean is there net migration out of amish

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communities or into amish communities i'm just i don't know i don't know that much about the amish

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i know they have a chance to leave uh they're you know they're encouraged to even go explore

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the world this is a problem right and a lot of them decide that amish life is better

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is because it's just objective value acknowledges things as people can be incompetent even

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about their own even about their own interests right means are not subjective right the means

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toward any goal or not subjective who gets to decide who's wrong about what they want

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who gets to decide it who gets to decide what you're wrong about wanting the people who have

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shown in the past that they can make correct decisions and that's how you evaluate the

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decisions the ross child's get her to decide what your wrong thing is what actually the

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enough when you have a perfect money which privacy inhibits you'll know there's no such thing

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as a perfect no there's never been perfect money doesn't even exist in nature what's that money

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doesn't even exist in nature it's a completely human created invention nature no it's conceptual

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man money money emerges it comes from repute it's just reputation oh yeah because i see monkeys

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using it all the time oh wait no that doesn't happen we're the only species

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reputation it's money was supposed to be meant as reputation but as society grows it gets more

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complex and uh you know before technology communication is is tough uh to just it's

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hard to distribute information in a big population that also you have to go with an unnatural

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this is where you get that you call money right reputation only extends as far as people

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that you know and that's why you had to come up with money and that is an art official concept

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that humans came up with in order to represent the thing that does exist within nature and you're

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trying to conflate the two i'm not what would you say i said i said that i don't have a point of

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our route you gotta stop talking if you you want me to explain the thing to you skeeter

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what are you getting my cheese what is it like being inside of your brain

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so look money money was always meant to be reputation how much you produce produce for

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i don't think money was even meant to be how much more resources to give you in the future

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it's a cycle right and a society no this all comes from a scarcity mindset skeeter you're so full

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of crap dude i can't take any more of this call thanks for the call tonight wow man i

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i admire your patience like he does not seem to want to shut up and let you have a conversation

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with him and yeah and you know i'd let him go on for a long time if he had smart things to say

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but he's just so full and nonsense i know like every single point he wants to make is built

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on a logical fallacy and he won't admit it and he just he just bullies his way through it like

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keeps talking and never shows up last week he might be an intelligent man but he is also very socially

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inept unfortunately i don't know i kind of think he's doing it on purpose but it's fine it gives

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me an example for as much as i can get words in edge wise he to show uh how like where his

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thinking is so distorted but i don't know maybe we'll get to an agreement on something one

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of these days maybe we can now let's go to a different phone call we got turd fergus in

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in pennsylvania you're on free talk live what's on your mind well look um nobody nobody is more

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annoyed by skeeter than me but look to be clear and look i like austrian economics i am still

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intellectually intrigued by them but rafard and mises is subjective subjective value theory

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is bull crap i find it to be kind of one of the big glaring holes in austrian economics and it's

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provable with just the fact that bubbles in and i it's always shocking to me that it's the austrians

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that believe it because it's disproven by the fact that bubbles burst hold on you're gonna explain

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you're gonna explain to me how uh how a value can be objective i'm not i'm not talking about

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objective value i just know that subjective value is bull crap and i can definitely disprove subjective

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value well isn't there only objective or subjective i don't know that's a i don't i don't deal in

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philosophical things like that i deal in in facts and and here's here's how i know that

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subjective value is bull crap because there was a time in this country in the mid two

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thousands where people thought subjectively that houses were worth way more than they

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actually were and housing bubble popped and then they went back down to not zero

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but they did go come back down to earth but they didn't go to zero they went to the natural the

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real natural sort of value of of of what the houses were were actually valued at that time

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which proves that there is something called intrinsic value and you can live in a house

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you can do something with it that gives an intrinsic value there is an intrinsic value

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but that's different than being objective maybe i i i don't know there are some people that would say

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that objective and intrinsic value are the same things i don't know if i'm one of those people

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but i have heard that argument before and um and i don't know maybe this maybe so intrinsic

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value just means that it can it can be used by anyone for the same you know to

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to get the same result right i well the value part has to do with you could like how much

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how much do you value that result one person might value it differently than the other and

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that's what makes it subjective well i suppose so but the thing is that regardless of who you are

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i can walk up to a house in a suburban neighborhood to think of shape and say okay i could live in

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that and you could live in that and any individual in the world could live in it and that gives

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an inherent intrinsic value right right so so oh the the point i'm trying to make is i mean

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one person you couldn't pay to live in that house and another person will be very happy to have a house

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well well yeah i think you could too i yeah but i'm not yeah economics aside or i'm sorry

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financials aside i'm just saying that regardless of who you are someone in the world anybody

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that you randomly choose you just you know line eight billion people up and you pick one randomly

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and they could live in the house if they really had to okay yeah that's what that's what intrinsic

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value is yes right yeah so so my point is is that look objective value aside because it sounds like

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it sounds like there's some disagreement on what objective value it is but

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intrinsic value exists and subjective value is bull crap based on all the all the bubbles

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that have popped in history okay yeah okay so i i don't know maybe this will help you um

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subjective value would be like everybody wanting everybody placing the same level of value on

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that home so everybody goes to auction and everybody bids the exact same number on it

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whereas that's not the reality because somebody would rather live in their camper than a house

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oh yes well sure sure and and i'm not and again financials aside i mean yeah there's one house

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might have slightly more financial value to someone than it does another i'm i'm not debating that

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well i'm saying somebody feels more free in their camper than they would in a mansion

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like the nicest house you could possibly imagine somebody would still rather live in their camper

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right and someone might feel more free to mention than they do in a camper and vice versa

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okay that's not the argument i'm making is that is that intrinsic value though is real

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and some people and i don't know if skeeter's one of them would would maybe say that objective value

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is the same i don't know if i'm one of those people but i'm just saying that intrinsic value

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is a thing yeah and it is and i think i think skeeter would claim that money is has intrinsic

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value whereas i would claim that it doesn't only the things that you trade the money for

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have intrinsic yeah well i i can i can prove that even then always not yeah i can well at

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i can prove with another thought experiment that money does not have intrinsic value and you can

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look at you can look at examples like zimbabwe or venezuela you know what i mean or united states

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yeah or or many other you know examples of history where you know currency's been devalued

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into oblivion and then it really doesn't actually have any intrinsic value because

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some people just don't need it as a matter of fact there are many people there are many people

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that really won't wouldn't even accept it you know what i mean i'm sure we could also say to you that

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when the white people came over here in the early whenever they did the fourteen hundreds fifteen

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hundred hundreds if they were to hand a native a gold coin they wouldn't know what to do with

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it wouldn't value it same so i don't know if i'm i don't know about that i mean i i'm

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willing to bet you know this is true there's a history books recorded where there were european

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settlers that showed up in parts of africa and the gold was so plentiful you just pick it up off

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the ground and there were natives living there they had no use for it they didn't know what to do with

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gold well i mean look i'm i'm not saying that people's intelligence levels are all the same

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either yeah but what are they going to do with the gold you can't eat it

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sure well you can do a lot of other things with that's for sure you can trade to europeans

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or the chinese that's what you could do with it and they didn't know that they had no they

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had no reason to even to even think about that i guess i guess the second the seller showed up

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they they could do something with it now couldn't they but uh but look i am willing i willing to

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i'm willing to bet you that if i were to take some gold and fly if i could do another planet

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somewhere in some foreign solar system uh that i i'm willing to bet you that i could

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buy something with if i wanted to right now it'd be funny if you land around that planet

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it was just made of gold well well i i don't know uh i don't know if chemically

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um that's that's possible to sustain life i mean i guess you want to get into a beta debate

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about biology and evolution we can but i don't know if chemically that's sustainable but

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i'm willing to bet though if i were to to go hop in a spaceship and fly to some other planet

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with some gold i could buy something with it i'm willing to bet you but i've heard that's

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all i had i i just want to throw that out there yeah and um and and just and just and just tell you

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guys that look i don't know about objective value but i do know that the subjective theory of value

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that i see that i've read about a lot of austrian economics books i find it to be

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kind of just a much of a load of garbage you know i mean yeah yeah thanks for the call uh i

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i can i can get on board with that um the austrians don't get everything right they

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they do drive it some very fundamental points though i think about human about the individual

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human's choice right and in my opinion of the closest we've got to being as correct as we can be

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i mean there's no such thing as a perfect system so and uh yeah yep so that was a good call thanks

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turd yeah um all right what should we get into next

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there's lots of war to talk about there definitely is like trump has given iran another ultimatum

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to open up the streets of hormuz and yeah except that it's open you know yeah just not to america

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or israel because you guys are being jerks so stop i'm sure it's open to china yeah

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yeah it's open there's there's oil flowing through there's just not just not for us thanks trump

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you're welcome trump would say you're welcome i'm glad i'm making the greatest country on earth

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we're gonna be the wealthiest country on earth the golden age has arrived you know

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and so now they're like you know screaming about how

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oh because because now fertilizer is um a petroleum product that you're not gonna have

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enough fertilizer to grow food and feed people this is man this is why i don't watch news

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because it's just such nonsense um i don't know if you know but dandy lines those things you

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go out there and spray with roundups or the dye or whatever like those things are food yeah you can

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eat those dandy land tea you can eat the leaves uh and um you know like food is not

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scarce it doesn't need to be scarce and it's not necessarily scarce uh they're trying real hard

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with their monsanto tactics and all that to make food scarce and uh and they might actually have

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some real food shortages now that you've gone on the truckitarian diet and put all your faith in

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you know the east india empire trading so i don't know that's what you're gonna get but uh

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let's see we got a caller here david li is called david li you're on free talk live what's on your

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mind hello i wanted to continue this sort of series i've been doing and what was going on 20

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what was it going on in the free state movement 20 years ago this month cool

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uh and i say this month that's probably an exaggeration i can remember what happened in 2006

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oftentimes i forget exactly which month it was so really it's it's it's this year 20 years ago

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so uh there were a couple of important developments in the free state uh movement

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one of them was that uh our first state rep was elected that was joel winters i think

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from manchester at the time and he was elected as a democrat so libertarian running as a democrat

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becoming a member of a legislature this was not super common back in those days anywhere

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and so it made the news and we were glad to have him you know having that success

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and i believed also the first piece of free state or sponsored legislation passed back

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the uh into law i think this was 2006 and it was don lincoln an early early free state project

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mover you know moved to new york for more freedom um and she got uh i guess we would call it the home

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i think it was called the homeschool paperwork reduction act so it just it just made made it

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easier to be a homeschooler okay so these seem like pretty small accomplishments today compared

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to what happens almost every month uh in new york sure but at the time they were a big deal

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yeah i had to start somewhere right yeah that's correct and there was a continuation of this

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sort of layer one of the previous callers i called i was telling you free free state

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is sort of discovered civil disobedience in 2005 and and it resulted in sort of an explosion

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of civil disobedience that continued on into about 2011 and in 2006 i sort of got my first dose

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of it uh kind of by accident because i i walked into an irs office and held a sign and handed out

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leaflets so these were actually i wasn't the first one to do this wrestle canning had done it

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earlier in 2006 he went into an irs office handed out leaflets tried to get in there

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he tried he tried to go in he wanted to overturn some of the pages inside their building and you

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know oh wow that's funny you know try to do what you just did at the market you know nice hey if you

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got more to this story we can uh we can hold you over coming up against it give us a call

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in new york i mitch mccann with the weekend review on friday the united states said it had

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rescued one of two crew members from a fighter jet shot down by iran president donald trump

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was briefed as a search and rescue operation continued nick harper reports from washington

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videos show a us transport plane and blackhawk helicopter in the skies over iran apparently

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involved in the rescue mission officials say one of the crew has now been rescued

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and is receiving hospital treatment the whereabouts of the second crew member are still unknown the

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downed jet was reportedly a two-seater f-15e fighter jet with a two-man crew it comes after

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u.s defense secretary pete hegseth said the u.s had air superiority above iran and could operate

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virtually unchallenged over the country meanwhile a spokesperson for the iranian military this

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week warned of incoming crushing broader and destructive attacks after the us president said

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the war would continue for another two to three weeks in a speech to the nation donald trump

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said the us is on track to soon complete all of its military objectives against iran ross callan

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reports the response from terran after the prime time speech from the us leader was a warning

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that the us and israel quote must pay for the aggression you initiated a military spokesperson

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said iran's military production takes place in places that you don't know at all rejecting claims

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made by the united states leader that iran's weapons stockpile had been widely depleted there's no sign

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of a ceasefire in sight at the moment with iran's foreign ministry rejecting donald trump's claim

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that the country had asked for a halt to the fighting as baseless meanwhile u.s supreme court

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justices cast out on president trump's attempts to restrict birthright citizenship

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one of his most ambitious policy endeavors the president took the unprecedented step of

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attending the high court for oral arguments as conservative and liberal justices question the

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legality of his attempt to block the children of illegal immigrants born on us soil from

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automatically becoming citizens kate fischer reports from the us supreme court quite the

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welcome for president donald trump as he became the first sitting president to hear oral

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arguments at the supreme court over whether his executive order limiting birthright citizenship

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is legal one of his arguments is that if unrestricted it leads to so-called birth tourism where

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pregnant women travel to the us to give birth so that their baby can have american citizenship

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but the chief justice john robert seems skeptical the justices also had vigorous questions for aclu

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lawyer cecilia wang but she found notably less resistance in her defense of birthright citizenship

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the decision is expected by the end of june or early july canadian astronaut jeremy henson says he

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and his team are feeling pretty good as the orion spacecraft takes them to the far side of the

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moon before astronauts are now hundreds of thousands of miles from earth as part of nasa's atom

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as two mission steward smith has more the trip will take the astronauts further from earth

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than anyone has been before in a mission to observe but not land on the far side of the moon

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which is never visible from earth after slingshotting around the earth a few times to build up momentum

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and the right trajectory the crew are now directly on their way to the moon and are the first people

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to leave the earth's orbit since the 1970s there's still a few days from reaching the moon

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though and in the meantime they'll check their equipment control systems and plan for the

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observations they'll be doing when they get close in their first public video call

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since launching commander read wiseman gave an update on this situation it was pretty tense

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moments there for a for a second and i gotta tell you there is nothing normal about this sending

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four humans 250 000 miles away is a herculean effort and finally this week pakistan and

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afghanistan resumed talks in china with beijing mediating to calm tensions between the two

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sides this comes as middle east turmoil fuels wider regional instability analysts warn that

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easing pressure along the afghan border is essential as pakistan's military faces the risk of being

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stretched across both its western and iranian frontiers haramistafa reports from islamabad

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pakistani officials say the talks aim to find common ground to tackle terrorists allegedly

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operating from afghanistan and charge kappelton eyes beijing is mediating to try to broker a

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ceasefire clashes between the two neighbors since february have been the most intense in

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decades leaving dozens injured on both sides of the border pakistan and afghanistan representatives

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are meeting in china's northern city of arum tree expert stress that stability in pakistan

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especially amid uncertainty in iran with islamabad sharing a 900 kilometers border with iran any

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instability there could put additional strain on pakistan's military from feature story news

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in new york i'm itch mccann and that was the week in review a new report by the department

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of health and human services has found that the average male is 4 000 less effective in fights than

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he imagines casting powerful doubts on many men's claims that they could take someone out in two

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seconds or smash a guy's face in with their fist on average men describing hypothetical fights

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overestimated their level of combat skill by a factor of 40 with 80 percent of males

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incorrectly predicting they could mess a guy up real bad with one solid punch to the jaw

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during actual physical altercations however these men were statistically more likely to end up hurting

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themselves or most commonly trying to diffuse the tension by nervously saying hey man let's all just

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calm down okay before any fighting even came to pass researchers discover that men were

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significantly weaker than they verbally indicated while chatting with friends in bars and locker

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rooms and that men who were 90 sure they could tear someone a new a**hole tended to succeed

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in the studio tonight it's stew and ralio bill we were talking with

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david li about 20 years ago in new hampshire

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david go ahead and continue with your story please yeah and actually not just in new hampshire

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where i where i pick up the story is in king new hampshire uh rustle canning lived in king where

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you where you guys are broadcasting from at that time and he's a christian anarchist activist

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double disobedience guy flat earth or two i like that right yeah he's a character about him but

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okay yeah rustles a good guy sometimes people throw the baby out of the bath water i like i like

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the flatter thing i don't think it's actually flat but i do like the thought experiment

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well it's you know all ideas should be on the table what was it george orwell said

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any any you know if any thought is forbidden then all thoughts are forbidden because they

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could lead to the forbidden thought yep mm-hmm but um anyway so he goes into this irs office

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and he's he's claiming he's going to try to overturn their table uh but that actually turned

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out not to be that big a deal what what they but i think they arrested him and charged him with

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with handing out flyers so uh you know i guess he never even made it to the table they had

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homeland security there and everything and they seized them because he announced in advance

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he was going to do it and he got thrown in jail for handing out flyers he was charged with

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distribution of handbills if i recall that's how it played out

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so this way i'm starting to let him get to the table yeah absolutely

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this created a phenomenon i call follow-up civil disobedience so uh that again i have i think i've

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done a pretty good job of not talking about myself a whole bunch during this series of

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historical stories but in this case i'm kind of part of the story so i went and imitated

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rustle by walking into an irs office unannounced and handing out leaflets uh i also held a sign

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and i refused to speak to anyone i just handed out the leaflet well uh this is something i had

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already done over at a you know at a bureaucrat office in concord at the tax you know it was the

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state tax office like the state equivalent of the irs so i had already done it almost exactly

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the same thing where i just stand it with a sign hand out flyers and leave when they tell

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me to well at the at the new hampshire office the guy who was in charge of all new hampshire taxes

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came out shook my hand answered the questions on the flyer and actually sort of became a friend of

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mine nice but at the irs office called the police the local police they called homeland

01:09:23.100 --> 01:09:29.640
security which arrived about an hour later uh they backed me out of the building the police

01:09:30.200 --> 01:09:39.560
uh backed me out and uh but again i did leave and uh a couple a couple weeks later they

01:09:40.120 --> 01:09:45.900
homeland security appeared at my home for having stood in that office and handed out flyers so they

01:09:45.900 --> 01:09:51.160
they had a charge for me which was distribution of man bills what kind of charges distribution

01:09:51.160 --> 01:09:57.420
of handheld does anybody know it's it's not a it's not a law it's a federal regulation

01:09:57.420 --> 01:10:01.560
i don't remember the name of the regulation crs something i think

01:10:04.360 --> 01:10:09.720
and they they hauled me in the court or they wanted me to pay 125 fine like a ticket you

01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:14.680
know it was just considered a violation and i refused to pay it at first or at least i didn't

01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:22.240
pay it that's and so they hauled me in the court to you know remit it i think it's actually

01:10:22.240 --> 01:10:26.200
what i i think i think what happened was it wasn't so much that i refused to pay it at first

01:10:26.200 --> 01:10:29.920
it was more than i just went through the legal process does that make sense to try and

01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:34.360
get out of the charge mm-hmm so it's kind of like taking a traffic ticket to court but this is

01:10:34.360 --> 01:10:38.480
a federal court when nothing ever happens no one ever goes there because everyone flees out right

01:10:38.480 --> 01:10:44.740
yeah and so you know i i brought activists with me we probably usually had about 15 people

01:10:44.740 --> 01:10:50.080
in the courtroom and i always would schedule a demonstration in advance uh and they found

01:10:50.080 --> 01:10:58.300
a guilty of a distribution of handbills and they and they said okay you can pay your fine on the

01:10:58.300 --> 01:11:05.280
way out so i just kind of left without paying the fine and so months later they contacted me

01:11:05.280 --> 01:11:09.320
again and they said hey you need to show up in court again to explain why you haven't paid the

01:11:09.320 --> 01:11:14.520
fine yet and at some point in there i just sent a note to the judge you know quoting rosa

01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:22.260
parks uh and saying the i'll never pay it and and i said i'm not going to tell the public this

01:11:22.260 --> 01:11:27.460
you know so for some reason you were never to prosecute me anymore on this no one even no one

01:11:27.460 --> 01:11:32.300
would even know that i had not paid but if you want to you can prosecute me i guess so sure enough

01:11:32.300 --> 01:11:36.940
you know over a period of about six months they kept calling me back into court why haven't you

01:11:36.940 --> 01:11:44.920
paid yet and every time i'd schedule a demonstration or what i eventually they just said okay i said

01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:49.280
you the judge just said okay i spent in two to four days incarceration and they just took me into

01:11:49.280 --> 01:11:56.380
jail on the spot they're not paying that fine okay wow how was that stay uh so they sent me

01:11:56.380 --> 01:12:01.720
to sx in massachusetts and it was interesting so the first thing that happened was they

01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:09.820
stick me on the in the van that takes you to sx and what they do is they shackle you so my hands are

01:12:09.820 --> 01:12:15.680
my hands are tied uh i can't really tighten i don't think they tied me to anything so i was

01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:22.400
loose in the vehicle my hands were tied and i think my feet were tied together so if they had

01:12:22.400 --> 01:12:27.700
had an accident i would have just let's imagine let's imagine they had a rollover i just you

01:12:27.700 --> 01:12:35.540
know i would have tumbled helplessly until the final snap right so uh that was the first

01:12:35.540 --> 01:12:41.840
part of the experience and then the next thing that i remember happening is i get to sx and i had

01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:50.380
sort of done some planning and some studying uh there's an organization called uh they used to

01:12:50.380 --> 01:12:54.880
call them so what do they call the embassy of heaven not in oregon and they were christian

01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:59.880
anarchists who would um they would refuse to take a driver's license and so they were always going to

01:12:59.880 --> 01:13:07.020
jail and they talked about how important it was to try and avoid giving the jail any information

01:13:07.020 --> 01:13:12.900
because it just locks up their system so i thought well yeah i can do that you know i won't try to

01:13:12.900 --> 01:13:17.120
do all the different types of resistance that you could do in jail but just try to mainly

01:13:17.120 --> 01:13:22.200
mostly just do that one thing and it works pretty well it actually does kind of lock up

01:13:22.200 --> 01:13:28.920
their system freaks them out uh what happened they had to put me in solitary and they just

01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:33.220
not answering their questions is that what you're saying yeah i guess they wanted to know who i was

01:13:33.220 --> 01:13:37.680
what my date of birth was and stuff like that whether i had tuberculosis whether i would consent to

01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:45.520
a tuberculosis test and all that i just kept saying no to most of this stuff and um so yeah

01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:52.880
they they took all my clothes seized my glasses so i was legally blind for a couple days and uh

01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:58.960
they just stuck me in this room with all these suspicious brown watches on the wall oh man

01:14:01.300 --> 01:14:06.420
and word started spreading around the jail that there was this guy who wasn't telling them

01:14:06.420 --> 01:14:11.320
any information and they had taken his clothes and his glasses right so it had a pretty positive

01:14:11.320 --> 01:14:17.720
effect and people it made the it made the other detainees pretty friendly toward me

01:14:20.780 --> 01:14:26.040
okay and the other thing you can do i didn't completely do this but if you if you either

01:14:26.040 --> 01:14:32.100
fast or give up some of your meals what i started to do was like whenever i would enter a like a room

01:14:32.100 --> 01:14:38.860
with 20 other inmates or something like that i would just hold up whatever food i had and say

01:14:38.860 --> 01:14:44.560
hey i'm not going to eat this anybody want it and they'd grab it up and everybody's my friend

01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:49.560
so that was another trick i think i got that from the embassy at heaven

01:14:51.200 --> 01:14:55.340
and uh you know there's a lot of stuff i'm forgetting probably that was really interesting

01:14:55.340 --> 01:15:00.160
that happened but one thing i haven't forgotten is one of the guards who thought i was really

01:15:00.160 --> 01:15:03.500
interesting and he's like what's going on with you how do you how come you're

01:15:03.500 --> 01:15:08.780
how come you're not why don't you have any clothes you know what's going on and why are

01:15:08.780 --> 01:15:14.200
you here and man i would have paid the fine what are you doing here and uh and i told him

01:15:14.200 --> 01:15:18.120
you know that i had a little bit of a following you know there were a few hundred people maybe

01:15:18.120 --> 01:15:22.580
that were following my situation pretty closely and there was it maybe 50 000 listeners on

01:15:22.580 --> 01:15:27.280
free talk live and he's like oh okay you're crazy i know you're not now because obviously

01:15:27.280 --> 01:15:31.440
there's not 50 000 people paying attention to you the next day he came back and he'd

01:15:31.440 --> 01:15:35.700
looked at the internet he's like okay you're a crazy militia guy who everyone is following

01:15:35.700 --> 01:15:42.200
and you're a cult leader yeah but it's not funny they gotta put you in a box somewhere

01:15:42.940 --> 01:15:47.440
yeah and this is the guy who seized my glasses right you know but we established a good relationship

01:15:47.440 --> 01:15:54.000
and his superior you know introduced me to the jail and i told him yeah i'm not gonna be

01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:58.040
i'm not gonna this is what i'm gonna do and this is what i'm not gonna do i'm not gonna

01:15:58.040 --> 01:16:01.840
answer these questions like well you're gonna get in trouble and i'm not and i'm not gonna

01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:08.000
tolerate you giving my people any trouble and i said listen uh you know i i know that if you

01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:12.860
torture me you will be able to eventually make me do what you want me to do so if you

01:16:12.860 --> 01:16:17.500
have a policy of torturing people then i guess you will be able to do you know what's your plan

01:16:17.500 --> 01:16:22.220
there you're gonna torture me into giving this information it's like whoa whoa whoa no we're

01:16:22.220 --> 01:16:27.920
not trying to torture you it's not like that i said if you ordered to torture me would you

01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:38.420
torture me he said well yeah yeah well they gotta follow orders after all yeah um so anyway

01:16:38.420 --> 01:16:43.080
all these different things occurred uh there was one point where there was some piece of

01:16:43.080 --> 01:16:49.860
information they wanted from me and i think i gave it to them and that that was an important

01:16:49.860 --> 01:16:56.100
lesson uh you know one of the guards walked up to me and said hey i heard you back down right and that

01:16:56.100 --> 01:17:01.880
it really took wind out of the sails of the process that i had been that i had been building right

01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:09.960
so i learned never to do that again okay yeah that's an interesting experience

01:17:10.500 --> 01:17:14.480
yeah initially they threw me back into the van you know four days later and off i go

01:17:15.200 --> 01:17:21.100
back to uh conquered from massachusetts and then they released me to at conquered

01:17:21.900 --> 01:17:26.040
and there was a little crowd waiting for me outside to greet me and give me a ride home

01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:33.540
cool that's really cool i love it yeah all that for distribution of hand bills thanks for the

01:17:33.540 --> 01:17:40.300
call tonight dave that was really cool i love ridley stories i love hearing about what happened

01:17:40.300 --> 01:17:46.700
in new Hampshire's past with the activists because it gives me some courage that when i do

01:17:46.700 --> 01:17:54.060
my activism i always have an idea of what to do yeah those old videos from back in the day

01:17:54.060 --> 01:18:00.920
street activism and gain are they're quite inspiring they definitely are they definitely are all right

01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:06.520
let's go to another call now from Tucson Arizona you're on free talk live what's on your mind

01:18:07.220 --> 01:18:13.500
hi there can you hear me yep go for it go ahead sometimes this mic dies hey you guys

01:18:13.500 --> 01:18:19.880
ever support sip anymore or is that just uh was that an Ian thing uh what is it

01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:27.200
yeah oh the sip line is that we're talking about yeah i don't know if we've used that license

01:18:27.200 --> 01:18:33.620
anyone to prison yeah i don't think that's currently in use i tried calling on that at

01:18:33.620 --> 01:18:38.340
one point it just went right to uh i don't remember went to some kind of error message or

01:18:38.340 --> 01:18:43.560
something but i i didn't get any message saying hey well hold on here we'll be right with you or

01:18:43.560 --> 01:18:53.340
i didn't hear the show so i thought i'd ask anyway um yeah i i have to give a lot of props to

01:18:53.820 --> 01:19:00.220
to uh david lee i mean that's quite a story there and uh there was a there was a lady who

01:19:00.780 --> 01:19:07.300
remember her name now who did something very similar uh back in the day um you know basically

01:19:07.300 --> 01:19:14.400
was arrested and said absolutely nothing i think they may have been lauren canario that's her yeah

01:19:14.400 --> 01:19:19.880
lauren canario yeah yeah she gets a lot of props from me too because you know she had the guts to

01:19:20.400 --> 01:19:25.860
to just you know say no i'm not going to cooperate and uh you guys got to figure it out on

01:19:25.860 --> 01:19:33.500
your own so uh that's that's the that that's a lot of what new hampshire means to me is that

01:19:33.500 --> 01:19:38.980
collecting people like that to uh to stand up and go okay well let's see how we can build

01:19:38.980 --> 01:19:46.880
this better society one piece at a time so um but what one of the uh aspects of this i i know

01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:54.040
there was a during the break there was an actual commercial um talking about you know don't use

01:19:54.040 --> 01:20:00.280
the government's money um and i think that's probably a good thing to investigate as well

01:20:01.160 --> 01:20:06.540
seeing as how is with technology keep getting better there's more and more options to

01:20:07.170 --> 01:20:11.840
use different kinds of currency whether it's bitcoin or other cryptos or

01:20:12.900 --> 01:20:21.060
gold or gold backs or you know a lot a lot of choices but the other aspect the other

01:20:21.060 --> 01:20:27.760
aspect of it is is that uh so many people are ambusal into giving the government money you know

01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:32.320
not just using their money but handing it over because they claim oh you owe it to us why because

01:20:32.320 --> 01:20:38.820
we passed this law you know saying we uh you owe an income tax and uh that's another thing that

01:20:38.820 --> 01:20:46.160
technology has uh has revealed that the income tax actually it is not levied upon the average person

01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:54.120
because the the laws that refer to the all the stuff that people quote well it says right here in

01:20:54.120 --> 01:21:01.100
section 61 the blah blah blah blah blah blah but if you go if you do your homework and and and research

01:21:01.740 --> 01:21:08.480
who all that applies to uh the sections that talk about that only apply to uh activities

01:21:08.480 --> 01:21:14.960
and persons who are under the the exclusive jurisdiction of the congress okay there are

01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:21.500
people who live under the exclusive jurisdiction of the congress but that's not you and me yeah it's

01:21:21.500 --> 01:21:28.240
like dc residents and federal employees as far as i understand it exactly so if you're not one of them

01:21:28.240 --> 01:21:35.380
uh none of that stuff applies to you okay and the idea that you have to sign this form

01:21:36.480 --> 01:21:43.000
saying that uh well actually my income isn't really mine it's actually belongs to this foreign

01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:51.360
person um but i'm i'm i'm standing in his stead so i'm liable for the tax and uh you know so i'll

01:21:51.360 --> 01:21:58.560
pass it along to you guys and uh it's called a w nine and uh you know that that's one of the the

01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:08.880
great um shadow shadow uh yeah one of the great deceits yeah thank you deceits good word i was

01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:15.860
looking for a word like that um yeah because if you go find a book called income tax shattering the

01:22:15.860 --> 01:22:25.880
mist by david champion and if you go to uh dr reality dot you uh what is it dot not us oh crap what's the

01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:33.560
domain uh news dr reality dot news and no this is not a paid you know uh commercial announcement

01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:38.980
okay uh he doesn't give me any money to talk about him and i wish he would call in because

01:22:38.980 --> 01:22:46.240
he's a lot more articulate about this than than i am since he spent 20 years of research writing the

01:22:46.240 --> 01:22:53.080
book and uh i recently had a conversation with him where and i took the contents of a pamphlet

01:22:53.080 --> 01:23:00.740
that he publishes which is basically a a uh a heads up to employers saying hey here's why

01:23:00.740 --> 01:23:09.440
i don't need a 1099 okay and it goes into a bunch of um citations of law that that explains what

01:23:09.440 --> 01:23:20.200
the w nine is for and what it isn't for and uh so i text uh i i i was an optical character

01:23:20.200 --> 01:23:29.020
recognition the the the the text and sent it to chat gpt and chat gpt you know follows the

01:23:29.020 --> 01:23:34.040
government line and says well no he's got this guy's completely wrong he's got his head up his butt

01:23:34.040 --> 01:23:43.620
right and uh so i sent that information i edited it a bit and i actually paid him for some of his

01:23:43.620 --> 01:23:50.320
time just to hear how him respond and he said yeah the problem is is that these these chat bots

01:23:50.320 --> 01:23:56.460
get trained on information but where do they get the information you know and they may see

01:23:56.460 --> 01:24:03.300
20 percent of tax law because that's available on the line you know and who's publishing that well

01:24:03.300 --> 01:24:09.880
law firms and eight cpa's and the government okay but if you really look into that there's another

01:24:09.880 --> 01:24:17.120
70 percent that chat gpt don't know nothing about so that's right if you think it's so smart it

01:24:17.120 --> 01:24:23.600
can't even tell you how many laws are on the books yeah oh yeah yeah but uh but i invite people

01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:31.560
to uh go to dr dr reality dot news and look at the stuff he's got there uh income tax shattering

01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:38.620
the misses a book that i was listening to him back in 2004 five six seven back when he had a

01:24:38.620 --> 01:24:45.700
had a podcast and uh he actually had uh was on the radio in some some markets and he was talking

01:24:45.700 --> 01:24:49.960
about him right in this book and so he he published it well it's probably about 10 years

01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:58.200
ago now he actually published it but uh but that reveals the whole picture and uh one of his recent

01:24:58.200 --> 01:25:04.800
podcast really he talked about why the irs is still using 1960s 70s computer technology

01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:11.920
instead of upgrading to all the modern stuff and uh his his response to that was well

01:25:12.480 --> 01:25:22.100
because if you show a programmer okay um of here's what the law actually says and this is what we

01:25:22.100 --> 01:25:30.320
have to actually have to program into the computer uh the jig would be up so so they're limping along

01:25:30.320 --> 01:25:37.060
with their old old hardware because they they don't want to reveal the truth um it's kind of like

01:25:37.060 --> 01:25:43.480
honor among thieves you know they they don't actually lie to you they just you know it's it's by

01:25:43.480 --> 01:25:48.000
sins of omission it sure sounds like they're definitely withholding things i actually was

01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:52.620
talking to someone working for a government agency the other day i think for the social

01:25:52.620 --> 01:25:59.280
security administration and they were saying that their system is ms dos and that it's and

01:25:59.280 --> 01:26:04.180
it's done that way to keep the system most secure because ms dos is more secure than windows

01:26:04.180 --> 01:26:10.300
or something like that and that's their excuse yeah well you stick to that story but

01:26:12.540 --> 01:26:18.440
anyway um yeah if you if you know once you really understand what's going on and what the law

01:26:18.440 --> 01:26:25.240
actually says and the basic idea if you talk to somebody who understands how the law works

01:26:26.020 --> 01:26:31.540
there's something called jurisdiction okay and the question the first thing you ask in

01:26:31.540 --> 01:26:36.920
any kind of illegal thing is where is this jurisdiction who has jurisdiction and mainly

01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:42.220
do you the person making the claim have jurisdiction over me and where does it come from

01:26:42.980 --> 01:26:49.040
and most people just jump right over that you know somebody makes a claim and then

01:26:49.040 --> 01:26:54.600
you start answering it and as soon as you start answering the claim then you've already assumed

01:26:54.600 --> 01:27:01.400
that the jurisdiction exists whereas the first thing you do is you say um okay you've made a

01:27:01.400 --> 01:27:08.080
claim can you back that up okay okay you you you claim there's this law okay how how do you

01:27:08.980 --> 01:27:16.700
how do you establish you know using only facts uh that that law applies to me you know okay

01:27:16.700 --> 01:27:25.200
how am I the guy that that that this this law is referring to and you know you never hear you

01:27:25.200 --> 01:27:31.520
know people ask in that question is because we're trained not to yeah and from my understanding

01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:37.500
if you if you pose that question to them they'll point at things like your driver's license and

01:27:39.420 --> 01:27:46.180
the use of your social security number and I think maybe passport there's a few things they'll

01:27:46.180 --> 01:27:53.400
point to to say see this is what makes you us citizen and so you really got to know your stuff

01:27:53.400 --> 01:27:58.380
because they'll definitely have some things to try to trip you up with looks like this guy has

01:27:59.140 --> 01:28:02.980
written a book that might be useful for anybody interested in this topic

01:28:04.580 --> 01:28:09.620
yeah well several books I guess he's got business guide to payroll withholding he's got

01:28:09.620 --> 01:28:16.480
um uh income tax shattering the myth I think and that's that's the that's the main book that

01:28:16.480 --> 01:28:23.000
that goes through the entire entire story yep so all right thanks for the call go to that website

01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:31.680
it was drreality.news if you're interested in this it seems like the guy at least at least

01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:37.520
has done a little bit of his own research he may be fairly credible maybe yeah give us a call

01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:51.920
603-283-6160 this is free talk live shortly after posting for the 10,000th time on his

01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:57.460
twitter account earlier today despite only ever accumulating 15 followers local man Aaron Gartner

01:28:57.460 --> 01:29:02.280
announced he's about ready to quit the popular microblogging site well I opened my account

01:29:02.280 --> 01:29:07.040
about two years ago and tweeted pretty much every day since and it didn't return out like I

01:29:07.040 --> 01:29:11.720
expected I thought you know once I hit 8,000 tweets I can get some traction start getting

01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:18.280
more followers but it never really happened I mean I gave him my best shot I guess but I

01:29:18.280 --> 01:29:23.500
think I'm about done here he has yet to be followed by anyone beyond a handful of friends family members

01:29:23.500 --> 01:29:27.880
and seemingly inactive accounts this one time I tweeted out a pretty good joke about how

01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:33.120
out of control Lindsay Lohan is and it actually got me a retweet it was from the sky in Argentina

01:29:33.120 --> 01:29:38.780
I don't know who doesn't have any followers and he's not following anyone else oh hold on I say

01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:48.060
apparently my aunt's following me now cool yes is the onion news network

01:29:48.980 --> 01:29:54.400
from feature story news in Washington I'm Nick Harper the US says it's rescued one of the two

01:29:54.400 --> 01:30:00.040
crew members from a fighter jet that was shot down by Iran president Donald Trump has been

01:30:00.040 --> 01:30:05.640
briefed on the situation as the search and rescue operation continues for the second person

01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:12.060
in that crew videos show a US transport plane and Black Hawk helicopter in the skies over Iran

01:30:12.060 --> 01:30:20.040
apparently involved in that mission the downed jet was reportedly a two-seater F-15E fighter jet

01:30:20.040 --> 01:30:26.620
with a two-man crew it comes after US defense secretary Pete Hegseth said the US had air

01:30:26.620 --> 01:30:32.600
superiority over Iran and could operate virtually unchallenged over the country

01:30:33.420 --> 01:30:40.300
the Cuban government is releasing 2000 prisoners in what it's calling a humanitarian and sovereign

01:30:40.300 --> 01:30:46.260
gesture it comes as Washington has been putting increasing pressure on Cuba in recent months

01:30:46.260 --> 01:30:52.700
including through a months long oil blockade of the island ever sends Mitch McCann reports

01:30:53.560 --> 01:30:57.920
Cuba's embassy in Washington see the release of the prisoners is designed to coincide with

01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:02.920
holy week an important religious occasion in a country that's largely Catholic according to

01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:07.700
the New York Times the prisoner release includes young people those over 60 foreign nationals

01:31:07.700 --> 01:31:12.940
and Cubans who live overseas it's unclear if Cuba's decision is to appease Washington whose

01:31:12.940 --> 01:31:18.100
oil blockade has contributed to devastating power outages in recent months in March Donald

01:31:18.100 --> 01:31:22.360
Trump told reporters he believed that he would have the honor of taking Cuba without

01:31:22.360 --> 01:31:28.620
providing further explanation as to what he meant Mitch McCann, New York Canadian astronaut

01:31:28.620 --> 01:31:35.420
Jeremy Hansen says he and his team are feeling pretty good as their Orion spacecraft takes them

01:31:35.420 --> 01:31:41.000
to the far side of the moon the four astronauts are now hundreds of thousands of miles from the

01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:47.440
earth as part of NASA's Artemis II mission ever since Stuart Smith has more the trip will

01:31:47.440 --> 01:31:51.860
take the astronauts further from earth than anyone has been before in a mission to observe

01:31:51.860 --> 01:31:57.620
but not land on the far side of the moon which is never visible from earth after slingshotting

01:31:57.620 --> 01:32:02.480
around the earth a few times to build up momentum and the right trajectory the crew are now directly

01:32:02.480 --> 01:32:07.500
on their way to the moon and are the first people to leave the earth's orbit since the 1970s

01:32:07.500 --> 01:32:11.240
they're still a few days from reaching the moon though and in the meantime they'll check

01:32:11.240 --> 01:32:15.840
their equipment control systems and plan for the observations they'll be doing when they get

01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:20.760
close in their first public video call since launching commander Reed Wiseman gave an update

01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:25.360
on their situation it was pretty tense moments there for a for a second and i gotta tell you there

01:32:25.360 --> 01:32:32.200
is nothing normal about this sending four humans 250 000 miles away is a herculean effort and we

01:32:32.200 --> 01:32:38.580
are now just realizing the gravity of that the u.s economy added 178 000 jobs in march

01:32:38.580 --> 01:32:46.080
above expectations the u.s unemployment rate dropped slightly to 4.3 percent from bureaus

01:32:46.080 --> 01:32:54.740
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tonight it's stew and ryleo bill

01:33:52.970 --> 01:34:01.850
well nobody is on the line right now so i guess i'm here and i guess i don't know some astronauts are

01:34:01.850 --> 01:34:08.590
going around the moon yep we have Artemis 2 is going around the moon why is there is there a

01:34:08.590 --> 01:34:14.250
nuclear program up there they got to stop is there are they are they sending fentanyl from

01:34:14.250 --> 01:34:20.330
the moon is there a reason i think the reason is to go take pictures of the darks over the far

01:34:20.330 --> 01:34:24.870
side of the moon and then come back so just for funsies yeah just for funsies essentially

01:34:24.870 --> 01:34:32.290
oh cool so uh here here's a story that might make that chafe a little bit this is from

01:34:32.290 --> 01:34:37.390
matt agarist at the free thought project all right as americans go broke the us empire

01:34:37.390 --> 01:34:43.810
goes full on bread and circuses washington is masking the reality of a crumbling economy

01:34:43.810 --> 01:34:49.850
and neoconservative war drums with ufc spectacles direct the phone propaganda in the ultimate vanity

01:34:49.850 --> 01:34:57.290
play putting a politician's signature on your devalued fiat currency you know uh see when this

01:34:57.290 --> 01:35:02.710
was written april fourth you can add sending guys to the other side of the moon to this list

01:35:02.710 --> 01:35:08.130
the legendary french queen Marie Antoinette never actually told the starving peasants to eat cake

01:35:08.130 --> 01:35:13.210
but the modern-day ruling class in washington is currently shouting it through a taxpayer-funded

01:35:13.210 --> 01:35:19.270
megaphone as americans watch their purchasing power evaporate and the threat of global conflict

01:35:19.270 --> 01:35:25.450
climb the trump administration has responded not with relief but with a series of high-gloss

01:35:25.450 --> 01:35:31.230
ego-driven distractions that would make a roman and emperor blush it is a grotesque display of

01:35:31.230 --> 01:35:37.430
vanity operating under the guise of american exceptionalism while the working class puts the

01:35:37.430 --> 01:35:43.850
bill the latest slap in the face came as the treasury department announced that for the first

01:35:43.850 --> 01:35:51.190
time in 165 years a sitting president's signature will appear on us pay per currency hooray yeah

01:35:51.190 --> 01:35:57.310
i'm so excited treasury officials praised the move as a way to recognize historic achievements

01:35:57.310 --> 01:36:01.810
while the actual achievement most americans are feeling is a crippling spike in natural gas

01:36:01.810 --> 01:36:08.070
costs and grocery prices that refuse to stabilize to brand the very notes that are losing value

01:36:08.070 --> 01:36:13.030
by the hour is to literally sign the receipt for the theft of the american workers labor

01:36:13.030 --> 01:36:19.570
through the hidden taxation of inflation while you while you struggled to decide between filling

01:36:19.570 --> 01:36:24.170
the gas tank or the fridge the white house is busy transforming the south lawn into a

01:36:24.170 --> 01:36:31.550
cage fighting arena the administration's plans for usc freedom 250 a massive mma event scheduled

01:36:31.550 --> 01:36:37.390
to coincide with the president's 80th birthday is the bread and circuses strategy in its absolute

01:36:37.390 --> 01:36:44.170
purest form the state provides a 60 million dollar taxpayer subsidized circus because it can no

01:36:44.170 --> 01:36:50.390
longer afford to let you have the bread the gaslighting extends far beyond the cage

01:36:50.390 --> 01:36:55.870
bleeding directly into the geopolitical arena where the drums of war with iran are beating

01:36:55.870 --> 01:37:01.510
louder by the day the administration claims to be the vanguard of peace even the board of peace or

01:37:01.510 --> 01:37:07.170
does that just mean he's bored of peace i almost wonder if you're right because he might just be

01:37:07.170 --> 01:37:11.950
bored of peace or trying to achieve peace because he always he's seeming to want to drag the

01:37:11.950 --> 01:37:17.610
world into war yeah tired of winning in board of peace that's what it is uh the administration

01:37:17.610 --> 01:37:23.270
claims to be the vanguard of peace yet continuously moves the machinery of empire into position

01:37:23.270 --> 01:37:28.930
violating the core tenants of the constitution while demanding blind patriotism they want you

01:37:28.930 --> 01:37:34.210
distracted by a gold coin with the politicians face on it so you won't ask why the blood of

01:37:34.210 --> 01:37:39.370
america's youth is being pre being prepped for the altar of the military industrial complex

01:37:40.110 --> 01:37:44.990
in a futile attempt to maintain this illusion the establishment's favorite conservative echo

01:37:44.990 --> 01:37:50.470
chambers have shifted into overdrive acting as full-time stenographers for the state

01:37:50.990 --> 01:37:56.050
outlets like fox news newsmax and newsweek are bending over backward to paint a picture of

01:37:56.050 --> 01:38:02.210
a savior president peddling the absolute fiction that the magabase is unified in

01:38:02.750 --> 01:38:08.810
complete lockstep behind these neoconservative foreign policy disasters it is a coordinated

01:38:08.810 --> 01:38:16.410
media campaign designed to isolate and silence any genuine anti-war dissent from within the right

01:38:18.890 --> 01:38:23.690
but that carefully constructed facade is already cracking under the weight of its own hypocrisy

01:38:23.690 --> 01:38:28.850
you only have to look at the recent uproar at cpac where the mere mention of impeachment

01:38:28.850 --> 01:38:34.790
drew cheers from a crowd that the media insists is the president's most loyal vanguard voices

01:38:34.790 --> 01:38:39.090
across the true liberty movement highlighted by independent commentators and publications

01:38:39.090 --> 01:38:44.710
like the american conservative are exposing the reality that the anti-war right is entirely

01:38:44.710 --> 01:38:52.970
fed up with being sold out to defense contractors these people are getting so desperate to control

01:38:52.970 --> 01:38:58.230
the narrative and keep the gas lamps lit that they launched an official white house app to feed

01:38:58.230 --> 01:39:04.890
you push notifications about a booming economy and other death deceitful pro-trump slop it is

01:39:04.890 --> 01:39:10.610
so they essentially want to keep us fed by the circus by the by the news the good news of the circus

01:39:10.610 --> 01:39:16.810
and the bread just like the animals were on animal farm it sure sounds that way it sure sounds like

01:39:16.810 --> 01:39:22.630
they it sure sounds like that's what they want to do to keep us all distracted to keep us all

01:39:22.630 --> 01:39:29.670
divided and as i see trump is doing great things for murica on its 250 year anniversary but no

01:39:29.670 --> 01:39:36.850
it's all just trump's lop mm-hmm it is attempting to build a digital pen opticon to bypass independent

01:39:37.670 --> 01:39:43.650
media and drown out the reality of utility shutoffs and foreign intervention the state is showing

01:39:43.650 --> 01:39:48.490
you exactly who they are a collection of actors obsessed with their own reflection while the

01:39:48.490 --> 01:39:53.830
audience starves in the world burns i wonder if this white house app is the thing i was hearing

01:39:53.830 --> 01:40:01.550
about where the it's like the everything that you learn in the first year of computer science

01:40:01.550 --> 01:40:06.510
to never do and then release into the public is like all the things that are on this app

01:40:07.430 --> 01:40:14.270
is basically a security nightmare for anybody who downloads it i don't know if that's the

01:40:14.270 --> 01:40:20.690
same thing but it wouldn't surprise me it wouldn't surprise me either but at the same time i don't know

01:40:20.690 --> 01:40:25.610
if you're correct that it is a secure nightmare but if it is it's a terrible thing for the

01:40:25.610 --> 01:40:29.750
government to do to you is give you a secure nightmare unless that's what they want to do

01:40:29.750 --> 01:40:34.930
yeah i was listening to last american banner bonnie was talking about some app released by

01:40:35.830 --> 01:40:40.850
by the federal government i think this may have been what he was talking about anyways

01:40:41.910 --> 01:40:46.730
the article continues the answer is not to wait for a different administrator to take the

01:40:46.730 --> 01:40:52.790
wheel of the war machine there is no voting your way out of this mess it is time we stop

01:40:52.790 --> 01:40:58.190
recognizing their authority to create this dumpster fire all together as the ruling class

01:40:58.190 --> 01:41:03.870
signs its name to your stolen wealth and demands your applause for their wars the only visible

01:41:03.870 --> 01:41:09.030
path forward is absolute financial and social autonomy we strip them of their power the

01:41:09.030 --> 01:41:13.610
moment we stop participating in their circuses and start building parallel systems they cannot

01:41:13.610 --> 01:41:19.790
control fortunately the sheer desperation of their propaganda proves they are terrified of

01:41:19.790 --> 01:41:26.290
a populist that is rapidly waking up to the grift every time the establishment rolls out another

01:41:26.290 --> 01:41:31.490
taxpayer funded distraction thousands more so you can see the cage for what it is and begin

01:41:31.490 --> 01:41:37.790
quietly opting out that peaceful voluntary rebellion is already happening all around us

01:41:37.790 --> 01:41:41.770
and is the one thing their trillions in stolen wealth can never stop

01:41:42.990 --> 01:41:50.830
uh well said madagress this is that is close closely aligned with the viewpoint in my

01:41:50.830 --> 01:41:57.530
opinion of how we fix this you just you can't make your neighbor do it you can't there's not a

01:41:57.530 --> 01:42:04.550
collective solution to this it's just you you just have to stop doing it you have to consider

01:42:04.550 --> 01:42:09.570
them illegitimate and if they're going to extort from something from you make them say that what

01:42:09.570 --> 01:42:15.930
they're doing is extorting from you because they're bullies um you know otherwise just live your

01:42:15.930 --> 01:42:23.810
life be peaceful don't cause harm and uh and this illegitimate tyranny will just crumble under

01:42:23.810 --> 01:42:27.910
its own weight and then that's what we all need to realize is that we have the ability to

01:42:27.910 --> 01:42:36.770
end the tyrannical rule over us by these people in suits of titles because as individuals we have

01:42:36.770 --> 01:42:42.890
the ability to say no if all of us decided one day that we're not going to comply what are they

01:42:42.890 --> 01:42:47.450
going to do yeah there's nothing they can do they can't lock us all in the cage can they

01:42:48.070 --> 01:42:54.770
no and and so this is this is the solution that works whether it's you know a few

01:42:55.490 --> 01:43:00.550
very wealthy families that never let their name get out into the public or whether it's like

01:43:00.550 --> 01:43:06.630
an immortal alien in Antarctica this running the world whatever it is that causes the ominous

01:43:06.630 --> 01:43:13.010
continuity through the centuries uh it doesn't matter what it is it can't stand up to us

01:43:13.810 --> 01:43:21.670
refusing to give it power it just becomes weak it's like saruman after you know after uh the

01:43:21.670 --> 01:43:27.310
scouring of the shire yeah it just loses all this power because everybody's you know nobody

01:43:27.310 --> 01:43:38.550
would give him any power anymore so um i don't know what else you want to talk about really

01:43:38.550 --> 01:43:45.810
i did put some things into into the telegram chat um but i want to go back to the story

01:43:45.810 --> 01:43:53.790
about us flying around the moon because i think it's fascinating okay i i think i think it's fascinating

01:43:53.790 --> 01:44:00.590
because at the height of war and this bread and circus show that we're getting they're sending

01:44:00.590 --> 01:44:10.550
people back to the moon and during the Vietnam war the american people were also distracted by

01:44:11.410 --> 01:44:17.750
a moon program so i feel like trump is trying to distract the american people or thinking that he

01:44:17.750 --> 01:44:21.530
could be just as great as the last presidents by distracting the american people at the moon

01:44:21.530 --> 01:44:27.290
program while the economy collapses while there's war because he wants to be a great president too

01:44:28.170 --> 01:44:33.870
he just wants someone to tell him hey you're the greatest person ever and so as we're witnessing

01:44:33.870 --> 01:44:35.470
this whole thing unfold

01:44:38.450 --> 01:44:44.350
we're witnessing the downfall of an empire i fear and it's it can be a good thing because

01:44:44.350 --> 01:44:48.010
that gives us an opportunity to move forward and do something entirely different

01:44:49.530 --> 01:44:53.130
but for many people will be a bad thing because they're not used to an empire ending

01:44:55.370 --> 01:45:03.350
yeah i could look a bit scary i think uh especially like nobody it's a hard thing to

01:45:03.350 --> 01:45:08.750
picture in your mind right like what does it look like america actually being coming coming

01:45:08.750 --> 01:45:15.150
to a complete destruction certainly you're gonna have people still going to work on the day that

01:45:15.150 --> 01:45:20.770
you know america falls apart or whatever that whatever that looks like wasn't being taken

01:45:20.770 --> 01:45:27.730
over by a foreign power or just the government gives up and goes home or i don't know whatever

01:45:27.730 --> 01:45:35.190
the case may be certainly you just still have people just that had that have such a hard time

01:45:35.190 --> 01:45:39.290
even picturing such a thing that they're just going to go to work or try to go to the grocery

01:45:39.290 --> 01:45:47.730
store or what you know go about their go out their normal lives i think a lot of people

01:45:48.510 --> 01:45:52.890
are so focused on going home going to work coming home and trying to survive

01:45:53.740 --> 01:46:00.810
that everything else outside of that is not on their mind because they're focused on survival

01:46:00.810 --> 01:46:06.350
mode and i can understand that you know you're you're dealing with a world that's always a war

01:46:06.760 --> 01:46:14.310
the financial situation is not great the economy is collapsing slowly your dollar is losing value

01:46:15.210 --> 01:46:21.690
and you're focused on how to feed your children feed your family you know pay the bills things

01:46:21.690 --> 01:46:28.630
like that and it's hard to focus on anything else and it seems like the powers that ought not be

01:46:28.630 --> 01:46:37.790
want you that way so you're more compliant and more docile yeah they they certainly do have that

01:46:37.790 --> 01:46:45.310
as part of their agendas it was a big drive of the women's liberation movement because now you

01:46:45.310 --> 01:46:50.610
just have both parents working you don't get more stuff you just have to work more yeah

01:46:52.190 --> 01:46:58.470
and they sold up women i'm guessing they sold women on the whole idea of oh you can have it all you

01:46:58.470 --> 01:47:05.250
can have kids you can have a job you can have this you can have that but you know

01:47:06.730 --> 01:47:12.690
men and women working in the workforce although can be a good thing it's also led to a breaking

01:47:12.690 --> 01:47:13.570
part of the family

01:47:17.710 --> 01:47:25.950
and that's another thing that builds society is family like i come from family of seven siblings of

01:47:25.950 --> 01:47:32.130
sorry six siblings three brothers three sisters and even though i'm thousands of miles from i still

01:47:32.130 --> 01:47:37.310
feel like i'm really close to them and that thing that's really important because

01:47:38.230 --> 01:47:43.990
families are the basic building blocks of society and at the end of the day if at the family unit

01:47:43.990 --> 01:47:54.230
is breaking apart then society is easily controlled would you agree with that yeah certainly to me

01:47:54.230 --> 01:48:02.110
it seems that family is is the only form of government prescribed by nature yeah beyond that

01:48:02.110 --> 01:48:09.670
it's all it's all human construct but nature says that you know if you're gonna be born it's gonna be

01:48:09.670 --> 01:48:16.790
to a mother and father and and uh for you to have the best chances of survival mother and

01:48:16.790 --> 01:48:29.090
father need to um put effort into seeing that outcome right all right so you posted one here

01:48:29.090 --> 01:48:38.490
from ctv news kebek passes law banning street prayers prayer rooms in universities c e g e p's

01:48:38.890 --> 01:48:46.370
not sure what that is but i bet we'll find out uh let's see here kebek is banning street

01:48:46.790 --> 01:48:55.770
street prayers the coalition avanair kebek uh c a q super minister of identity super minister

01:48:55.770 --> 01:49:02.310
of identity man these titles geez how would you how would you like to be the super minister of

01:49:02.310 --> 01:49:09.670
identity somebody wants to have that job obviously yeah john francis robert has just passed his

01:49:09.670 --> 01:49:18.270
bill to strengthen secularism the legislation received the support of the party kebecois

01:49:18.670 --> 01:49:25.850
while the liberals in kebek's solid air solid air voted against it man fringes

01:49:26.510 --> 01:49:32.430
why can't you just use english words minister robert friends instead minister robert has

01:49:32.430 --> 01:49:38.470
previously stated that street prayers could be considered acts of provocation how dare you

01:49:38.470 --> 01:49:45.630
pray history vote people by praying municipalities will be able to authorize them but only under

01:49:45.630 --> 01:49:51.090
certain criteria the new law will also ban the wearing of religious symbols by daycare

01:49:51.090 --> 01:49:57.150
educators the government is also extending this ban to teachers and staff at private schools

01:49:58.710 --> 01:50:05.950
oh my goodness however there will be a grandfather clause for employees hired before november 27th

01:50:05.950 --> 01:50:16.090
2025 the full face bill will be banned in daycare centers c e g e p's and universities for both

01:50:16.090 --> 01:50:28.570
those receiving services and those providing them the the league alt government is also signaling the

01:50:28.570 --> 01:50:34.830
end of the road for subsidized private religious schools these schools will have three years to

01:50:34.830 --> 01:50:40.410
stop selecting students and teachers based on their religious affiliation and to cease teaching

01:50:40.410 --> 01:50:46.890
religious content during school hours otherwise they will lose access to public funds religious

01:50:46.890 --> 01:50:52.050
activities may still take place in these schools but only outside of school hours they must also

01:50:52.050 --> 01:50:57.890
be optional and not funded by the state the minister is also putting an end to prayer rooms

01:50:57.890 --> 01:51:06.330
in c e g e p's and universities did it explain to us what c e g e p is i can't remember but it sounds

01:51:06.330 --> 01:51:14.330
to me like what they're trying to do is get government out of prayer i don't know i don't

01:51:14.330 --> 01:51:20.050
know i'm trying to figure this out of everywhere that they have you know the notion that they

01:51:20.050 --> 01:51:28.210
have jurisdiction okay is what it sounds like okay uh let's see the legal government is thus

01:51:28.210 --> 01:51:34.590
strengthening its bill 21 on secularism which prohibits the wearing of religious symbols by

01:51:34.590 --> 01:51:39.410
government employees and positions of authority including judges police officers and teachers

01:51:41.110 --> 01:51:46.830
once again kebek is shielding its law from legal challenges with the notwithstanding clause

01:51:52.210 --> 01:51:59.630
hmm the the pq is taking some credit for the adoption of this legislation let's acknowledge

01:51:59.630 --> 01:52:06.750
that several ideas in this bill which will become law come from the party kebek koys we're dealing

01:52:06.750 --> 01:52:12.110
with a government that often when we put forward an idea reacts by saying it doesn't make sense

01:52:12.110 --> 01:52:17.190
then in the end essentially adopts the same approach we had from the start so we believe

01:52:17.190 --> 01:52:24.470
this is indeed what needs to be done sent pq member elix something french i can't pronounce

01:52:25.550 --> 01:52:33.210
kebek kebek solidaire strongly criticizes the ban on religious symbols for daycare educators

01:52:34.750 --> 01:52:39.670
contrary to what the minister says there will be daycare educators who will lose their jobs

01:52:39.670 --> 01:52:45.150
if they were hired after november 27th or if they change facilities this is serious

01:52:45.150 --> 01:52:50.490
at a time when we're facing a crisis in our public services parents are worried

01:52:50.490 --> 01:52:55.330
and women want to work and have someone to care for their children in daycare centers

01:52:55.330 --> 01:53:00.850
say qs spokesperson rubik guzzall i have so many problems with this story

01:53:01.470 --> 01:53:06.550
canada must be nuts holy cow it sounds like it like government overreach when it comes to religion

01:53:06.550 --> 01:53:13.370
you can't wear religious symbols in the street otherwise i don't know it just seems so overbearing

01:53:13.370 --> 01:53:25.530
to me yeah uh yeah so i don't know i have mixed feelings about the attack on religion right because

01:53:25.530 --> 01:53:33.170
most religions are absolute nonsense and in fact i'd say i haven't heard of a single organized

01:53:33.170 --> 01:53:39.230
religion on the planet that isn't nonsense every single one of them nonsense i agree with you

01:53:39.230 --> 01:53:44.710
on that but most of them will say oh we're the one true path to god or whatever we have the one true

01:53:44.710 --> 01:53:49.990
the one knowledge to save you the one way to say there there are many as many paths to god as

01:53:49.990 --> 01:53:56.490
there are individuals on the planet i agree with you there yeah absolutely spirituality is real

01:53:57.850 --> 01:54:03.850
religions is kind of just bunk it's it's not going to help you get there it's just going to

01:54:03.850 --> 01:54:14.490
bulk you out of some money and give you a bunch of uh um you know red herrings so uh for that for

01:54:14.490 --> 01:54:20.130
canada to go ahead and ban is like on the one hand i don't know does this mean that

01:54:20.790 --> 01:54:27.410
does this mean that um their legislators can publicly display their dual allegiance to

01:54:27.970 --> 01:54:34.170
canada and whatever other country they love or especially if it's a religious country

01:54:35.830 --> 01:54:41.310
um i don't know like which religions are going to have the biggest problem with this rule

01:54:41.990 --> 01:54:47.810
and are any of the religions going to be exempted from it you see what i'm saying yeah i think

01:54:47.810 --> 01:54:51.830
christian you'll have a problem with it islam will have a problem with it for sure

01:54:53.330 --> 01:54:59.930
but as for who is going to get the grease i would say that leftists and canada is a leftist

01:54:59.930 --> 01:55:05.530
country they want to pander to islam because it's the main order yeah and i also wonder if it's

01:55:05.530 --> 01:55:13.230
going to go something like hijab not allowed uh cross necklace not allowed yeah yamaka allowed

01:55:13.890 --> 01:55:17.490
okay you know what i mean and so like they're going to have this weird kind of

01:55:18.270 --> 01:55:25.070
um i don't know arbitrary seeming sort of rule set that doesn't it it doesn't hold up logically and

01:55:25.730 --> 01:55:31.990
and you're just going to have people embittered by it but i don't know i don't know how they'll do it

01:55:32.770 --> 01:55:34.350
uh it just seems like

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i was i was showing a little bit of a video from a from a i don't know if it was like a

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a senate meeting or some it was a canadian government

01:55:47.810 --> 01:55:53.490
function you know like like what it looks like on c span when they show the the congress meetings

01:55:53.490 --> 01:56:00.550
and whatever yeah but it was it was canadian and those people are nuts like i was i was blown away

01:56:00.550 --> 01:56:05.090
by the amount of nonsense i heard in this short little three minute video it's all about the

01:56:05.090 --> 01:56:12.070
nonsense you heard uh the the person of the podium talking was like calling everyone comrades

01:56:12.070 --> 01:56:19.970
for one oh so it was a leftist convention up there yeah and it was um it was uh one person spoke up

01:56:19.970 --> 01:56:25.790
and asked to not have gendered language used during the meeting interesting and um

01:56:25.790 --> 01:56:30.330
i think i saw clips of that and this lady up front was just like losing her mind

01:56:30.330 --> 01:56:35.950
trying to like bark orders about people sitting down so that the counters can count how many

01:56:35.950 --> 01:56:42.730
people are in the room and it's just like i don't know it it's so creepy and safe space feeling

01:56:42.730 --> 01:56:49.050
yeah why they want to make everyone feel safe and welcome and they want to have everyone

01:56:49.050 --> 01:56:55.330
have an opportunity to speak and everyone has their privilege and it's just it just doesn't

01:56:55.330 --> 01:57:00.490
work that way yeah if that's the mindset of your average populace you're just set up to be

01:57:00.490 --> 01:57:09.010
destroyed by something you know a little more brutal oh yeah canada oh yeah so so uh i don't know

01:57:09.010 --> 01:57:14.730
that just seems seems like not a place i would get along with most people

01:57:16.390 --> 01:57:21.610
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here on the liberty radio network at lrn dot fm from feature story news in new york i mitch

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mccann with the weekend review on friday the united states said it had rescued one of two crew members

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from a fighter jet shot down by iran president donald trump was briefed as a search and rescue

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operation continued nick harper reports from washington video show a u.s transport plane and

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blackhawk helicopter in the skies over iran apparently involved in the rescue mission

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officials say one of the crew has now been rescued and is receiving hospital treatment the

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whereabouts of the second crew member are still unknown the downed jet was reportedly a two-seater

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f-15 e fighter jet with a two-man crew it comes after u.s defense secretary pete hegseth said the

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u.s had air superiority above iran and could operate virtually unchallenged over the country

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meanwhile a spokesperson for the iranian military this week warned of incoming

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crushing broader and destructive attacks after the us president said the war would

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continue for another two to three weeks in a speech to the nation donald trump said the

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u.s is on track to soon complete all of its military objectives against iran ross callan reports

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the response from terran after the prime time speech from the u.s leader was a warning that the

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u.s and israel quote must pay for the aggression you initiated a military spokesperson said iran's

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military production takes place in places that you don't know at all rejecting claims made

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by the united states leader that iran's weapons stockpile had been widely depleted there's no sign

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of a ceasefire in sight at the moment with iran's foreign ministry rejecting donald trump's claim

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that the country had asked for a halt to the fighting as baseless meanwhile u.s supreme court

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justices cast out on president trump's attempts to restrict birthright citizenship one of his most

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ambitious policy endeavors the president took the unprecedented step of attending the high

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court for oral arguments as conservative and liberal justices questioned the legality of his

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attempt to block the children of illegal immigrants born on u.s soil from automatically becoming

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citizens kate fischer reports from the u.s supreme court quite the welcome for president donald

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trump as he became the first sitting president to hear oral arguments of the supreme court

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over whether his executive order limiting birthright citizenship is legal one of his

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arguments is that if unrestricted it leads to so-called birth tourism where pregnant women

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travel to the u.s to give birth so that their baby can have american citizenship but the chief

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justice john robert seems skeptical the justices also had vigorous questions for aclu lawyer

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cecilia wang but she found notably less resistance in her defense of birthright

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citizenship a decision is expected by the end of june or early july canadian astronaut

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jeremy hansons says he and his team are feeling pretty good as the orion spacecraft takes them

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to the far side of the moon the four astronauts are now hundreds of thousands of miles from

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earth as part of nasa's artemis two mission steward smith has more the trip will take the

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astronauts further from earth than anyone has been before in a mission to observe but not

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land on the far side of the moon which is never visible from earth after slingshotting around

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the earth a few times to build up momentum and the right trajectory the crew are now directly on

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their way to the moon and are the first people to leave the earth's orbit since the 1970s there's

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still a few days from reaching the moon though and in the meantime they'll check their equipment

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control systems and plan for the observations they'll be doing when they get close in their

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first public video call since launching commander read wiseman gave an update on their situation

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there's pretty tense moments there for a for a second and i gotta tell you there is nothing

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normal about this sending four humans 250 000 miles away is a herculean effort and finally this

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week pakistan and afghanistan resume talks in china with beijing mediating to calm tensions

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between the two sides this comes as middle east turmoil fuels wider regional instability

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analysts warn that easing pressure along the afghan border is essential as pakistan's

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military faces the risk of being stretched across both its western and iranian frontiers

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here are most tougher reports from islamabad pakistani officials say the talks aim to find

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common ground to tackle terrorists allegedly operating from afghanistan and charge karmal

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tenais beijing is mediating to try to broker a ceasefire clashes between the two neighbors

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since february have been the most intense in decades leaving dozens injured on both sides of

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the border pakistan and afghanistan representatives are meeting in china's northern city of arum tree

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expert stress that stability in pakistan's western border region is crucial especially

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amid uncertainty in iran with islamabad sharing a 900 kilometers border with iran any instability

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there could put additional strain on pakistan's military from feature story news in new york i'm

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and that was the weekend review a new report finds climate change skeptics could reach catastrophic

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escalating violence and rising death toll in gaza this week israel unveiled a new defense system

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to deflect accusations of human rights violations israeli officials praised the new safety structure's

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ability to intercept an international barrage of war crime allegations and divert criticisms of

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to the phones we've got sarah in new mexico sarah what's on your mind it's nice to talk with

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you guys and i have a huge win we're getting four more speeding cameras and apple cookie

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why do you consider that to be a win sarah well i have been working on these speeders we got drag

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racers speeders we got people hit and run i mean they run stop signs red light cameras i mean

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everything so speeding cameras is better than nothing it's something so it's a huge right so

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four more so we got 20 so just little by little they're just adding more they promise to put

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another 20 more but i love speeding cameras yep sarah thinks that that's going to make people

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slow down it really doesn't though because most of the people who are speeding can afford to just pay

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the ticket and they really don't care how many times they get a speeding ticket until they'll just

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pay and pay and pay it yeah until it affects their you know like you can only get so many

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until they threaten to take your license away or whatever but i don't think they do that here

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i don't do in our state you know there's no points against the driver's license

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so you just keep getting them and paying them wow the speeding cameras aren't gonna do anything now

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yeah this is new mexico i mean that it's amazing so here's the thing other states like in georgia

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your your your points goes on your driver's license points goes to your

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credit rating points go to your insurance companies and what else does it do

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it's it's not i mean i think some states it's criminal i mean they will

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if you're unpaid uh red like never they will haul you and put you in jail i mean

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say they were texas illinois all right you know like chicago but on state the only thing that

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they could do is put them on your credit so then if you have back credit you're half

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half your life you're homeless the other half you're in jail you have you don't need credit you

02:09:35.940 --> 02:09:41.940
don't want credit you don't have credit you could get all these tickets and tear them all up i mean

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that's the only thing i i have the people are not paying and what what i see is there's two

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cars parked around what they're doing is they're taking their license plate and putting up on

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the rear view car and it's tinnit there's a car like that and then there's a yeah i mean so they're

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taking and then they have i think there's another car with that bogus temporary it's a bogus temporary

02:10:08.060 --> 02:10:16.400
license and they stick it on the rear back rear window so then the red light cameras can't take

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a picture of it or something i love the creative ways that people are avoiding these traffic

02:10:20.880 --> 02:10:26.760
cameras that makes me really excited yeah that's funny yeah that that is really funny you know what

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i know that it's a fake temporary license because i've seen this other car with this white paper

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stuck on the car for like a whole year every time that's parked there they have a temporary license

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so i'm thinking they must know somebody in the dmv it's just a black and white paper like a print

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out that you feel like you could fill out with any bogus any person could put that out using a

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computer scanner or whatever and just write any bogus number on it i i don't know that you'd be

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surprised sara um i may or may not know somebody who drove around for more than a year in a car

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with plates that didn't even belong on it and were expired no problems from the cops

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oh but it looks it actually looked like a license plate but these are the temporary it's just a

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black and white paper with a black print on it so it's not like anything authentic anybody could

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print a similar like temporary license and write whatever names on it and maybe i'm thinking

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maybe they have family or friends that work for dmv and all they have to do is give you a

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blank temporary paper and you just fill out any they'll probably give you the expired license plate to

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write down and then they stuck it up in the back window and they run around like like this no that

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could never happen the people that work at the dmv are so pure of heart they work for the government

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don't you know they're they're um anointed and holy and they could never do anything wrong

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no corruption ever happens in government they're they're the perfect saviors

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all kinds of things going on and then i have no idea in our state i have no idea if there are

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consequences that that's with you people that are worried that these needs credit they need to

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borrow money for a loan on a house or to buy a car they need real they will pay it all the rest

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of them that have no like okay one out of four people have no drivers uh equal no car insurance

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here okay so so it's supposed to be a law and there's one fourth of the people that don't have

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many don't pay it don't have car insurance and then or they've or they've just figured out that

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it's a scam and if they can drive for 30 years uninsured and then they get caught and have

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to pay the $3050 ticket it was way better than the four thousand dollars they were going to spend

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on auto insurance that they were never going to use because they're careful drivers

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which i've done before and i came out ahead so what they do is they get taken to court they'll

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go to the did someone you got to get a driver's uh you got to get your car insurance what they do

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is they enroll for a whole month and the next month they cancel out yeah they don't

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why wouldn't you to get yeah that's another racket you know so here but here's the problem with that

02:13:38.620 --> 02:13:45.440
if you get hit if you're grabbing in the metro you have to have a pay a uninsured motorist

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so you have to pay for an uninsurance card to hit you to run the stop-right and assignment

02:13:53.020 --> 02:14:00.620
your car otherwise they have no insurance so you're you're done if your car gets damaged and

02:14:01.200 --> 02:14:06.200
totaled there's nobody's going to help you out and that's the end of it so you have to pay

02:14:06.200 --> 02:14:13.120
for the uninsured car motorists because one out of four cars that will hit you that'll run the

02:14:13.120 --> 02:14:18.740
red light and famine to you they don't have any insurance so that's what you got to have in

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New Mexico if you have a decent car that you want to salvage or anything yeah it's part of the

02:14:25.920 --> 02:14:31.480
minimum state requirement in a lot of states to have uninsured motorists covered are you serious

02:14:31.480 --> 02:14:38.720
that's required too yeah but i thought i thought it was just a minimum of just liability to cover

02:14:39.360 --> 02:14:44.000
what i don't know the cover your fault or something you can't do nothing about covering

02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:49.160
the other person i have no idea but yeah i can't remember it wasn't a lot of coverage it was only

02:14:49.160 --> 02:14:54.480
like $10,000 or something in Utah where they did this in in New Hampshire they don't require you to

02:14:54.480 --> 02:15:01.280
have insurance which actually makes it a lot cheaper which is nice because i i mean i've run

02:15:01.280 --> 02:15:10.460
the insurance anyways just because just because it's cheap enough that it seems like it seems like

02:15:10.460 --> 02:15:17.820
it's probably worth it for me um but they don't you know they don't have a state minimum requirements

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they don't have any requirement for it but in Utah they had one and uninsured motorists was on

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that list but i think it was only up to like 10,000 yeah so i just hope you know if there's

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there's a driver with a fake temporary license that they just wrote in and stuck it in the back

02:15:39.420 --> 02:15:45.440
rear window but if they're between cars that are afraid of getting a ticket in the front and the

02:15:45.440 --> 02:15:51.300
back they're going to have to do the speed limit that's what i think about it the other speeders

02:15:51.300 --> 02:15:55.740
there's sandwich between people that are afraid of tickets they can't speed either

02:15:57.240 --> 02:16:03.360
yeah well i don't know the red light cameras aren't going to stop the speeders uh and thanks

02:16:03.360 --> 02:16:07.600
for the call tonight if anything i think the red light cameras are going to create more

02:16:07.600 --> 02:16:12.140
create ways to get out of speeding tickets or people are just going to pay the fines and not care

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yeah you're just going to have people doing you know doing the things like uh like the um the

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license plate covers that make it hard to take a picture of or the fake fake temporaries or whatever

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they're going to do people they can afford to pay a speeding ticket and want to speed are

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going to speed and then pay the ticket and people that can't afford to pay the ticket or

02:16:34.960 --> 02:16:40.560
and want to speed they're going to speed and not pay the ticket it's not really that big of an

02:16:40.560 --> 02:16:45.540
influence on people's decision when they're actually behind their wheel whether or not

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they're going to let off the gas or push it for me i keep it under the speed limit because i

02:16:50.780 --> 02:16:57.380
don't like police interactions and i try to avoid them uh or i keep it under the you know the

02:16:57.920 --> 02:17:02.820
the implied five over is the actual speed limit so that so that's i keep it between

02:17:02.820 --> 02:17:08.840
the posted speed limit and five over those speeds will won't ever get you pulled over you might be

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doing something else that gets you pulled over but it won't be the speed so so i you know and that's

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that's because i don't want to i don't want the police interactions and i'm not going to speed

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because one it's not going to save me enough time and two it's going to increase my risk of um you

02:17:26.400 --> 02:17:35.140
know catastrophic vehicular failure or accident uh in other words it's it's you know the faster you

02:17:35.140 --> 02:17:44.340
going the less safe you are um which you know it's fine i feel fine driving fast but um

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but it's not number three is that it is not going to save you that much time right and so

02:17:53.260 --> 02:18:00.560
did i already say that one sorry no worries uh yeah and i'm not going to pay them and it's a

02:18:00.560 --> 02:18:03.880
big hassle on my time to have to go into court and tell them why i'm not going to pay them

02:18:03.880 --> 02:18:09.240
and then find out what else they want me to do you know so the drain on my time the police

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interaction those are enough to incentivize me to not do it and and the upside isn't enough

02:18:14.540 --> 02:18:22.040
to incentivize me to do it yeah so i don't know personally i'm not a big speeder but i support

02:18:23.420 --> 02:18:32.440
people's um i support people that want to do so and can do it competently and you know within reason

02:18:32.440 --> 02:18:40.920
and i think go ahead speed away it's uh i don't know i kind of sympathize with sarah though

02:18:40.920 --> 02:18:46.200
some people are absolute maniacs when they get when they get behind the wheel of the vehicle

02:18:46.200 --> 02:18:53.700
it's just they should not ever do it because one time i was driving uh i was driving over to brattle

02:18:53.700 --> 02:19:00.000
bro on nine and there's you know one lane each direction and a shoulder that's about

02:19:01.140 --> 02:19:06.680
not quite wide enough to fit a whole car on well this gigantic truck comes down the road

02:19:07.560 --> 02:19:13.260
like like there's you know a line of traffic so if somebody's going 50 the posted speed limit

02:19:13.260 --> 02:19:18.780
it's going to make a big line of cars behind it because everybody wants to go 55 or 60 and so

02:19:18.780 --> 02:19:25.880
it was one of those situations and this big huge pickup truck all just like huge jacked up oversized

02:19:25.880 --> 02:19:32.480
tires comes flying down the shoulder oh man just passing cars without any regard not honking

02:19:32.480 --> 02:19:37.640
his horn just flies down the shoulder he must have been going at least at least 90 but i would

02:19:37.640 --> 02:19:45.400
guess probably closer to 100 that's great and and that is not that's not safe you can't be doing

02:19:45.400 --> 02:19:50.640
that kind of stuff yeah some old grandma is going to see you and the marriage she's going to panic

02:19:50.640 --> 02:19:54.640
and pull over to the right because that's her instinct and you are going to kill her and

02:19:54.640 --> 02:19:58.960
that you know like you really want to live with that i don't so i don't drive like an idiot

02:19:58.960 --> 02:20:03.500
but some people don't seem to have such reservations it seems like when people get

02:20:03.500 --> 02:20:08.220
behind a wheel it's like their mind goes out the window yeah and what it sounds like i mean i

02:20:08.220 --> 02:20:13.460
have never driven before on roads so i couldn't answer the question but just sounds like

02:20:13.460 --> 02:20:17.840
what people told me everyone just goes crazy you know what it feels like though when somebody

02:20:17.840 --> 02:20:22.460
stops hard or turns hard oh yeah you can tell there's a lot of weight and a lot of g-force

02:20:22.460 --> 02:20:29.640
there and and people just don't think about it that way they don't they never consider the

02:20:29.640 --> 02:20:34.380
fact that what they're driving is weighs thousands of pounds which is absolutely destroy whatever it

02:20:34.380 --> 02:20:40.700
hits and there's a plane on their phone or going way too fast or whatever it is they're doing

02:20:42.100 --> 02:20:48.920
but yeah i mean you know they they come up with new laws and new new penalties for

02:20:48.920 --> 02:20:54.020
this type of behavior all the time and this type of behavior doesn't decrease so

02:20:54.020 --> 02:21:01.740
i don't know red light cameras seem like a waste of time and money to me sarah sure gets excited

02:21:01.740 --> 02:21:07.640
about them it sounds like she does well from her past calls on the show she seems like a very

02:21:07.640 --> 02:21:12.240
big government person loves the idea of communism and so i can see you're getting

02:21:12.240 --> 02:21:18.540
delighted by like by these speeding cameras because she wants control for society

02:21:20.380 --> 02:21:26.360
yeah she does i wonder what it is that motivates her maybe i should ask her one of these nights

02:21:26.360 --> 02:21:33.440
whether it's um she's obviously not going to admit to it if it's stupidity yeah i don't

02:21:33.440 --> 02:21:38.300
think it's stupidity though i think sarah's got some i think she's got some underlying

02:21:38.300 --> 02:21:42.960
cleverness to her i think she does too i mean she she knows how to call this show she knows how

02:21:42.960 --> 02:21:49.240
to talk to people obviously she's either scared or she has such a desperation to be part of a tribe

02:21:49.240 --> 02:21:55.440
that she's willing to uh glom on to the yeah you know to the biggest group that looks like a

02:21:55.440 --> 02:22:07.520
tribe to her which would be leftist government types um so anyways riley brought another story

02:22:08.620 --> 02:22:16.020
this one from ap news the reputable news source the ap news is just like

02:22:17.800 --> 02:22:25.560
that's just like the uh the big pool of state propaganda that all the news agencies pull from

02:22:25.560 --> 02:22:30.500
is that right i would say so yeah so i think that's where the big propagandists pull their

02:22:31.140 --> 02:22:37.620
their stories from i like to use the ap because at least if there's a rumor the ap can

02:22:37.620 --> 02:22:42.320
either confirm it for me or they might have their own spin on it so i can be like okay well

02:22:42.320 --> 02:22:46.840
this might be the truth on the matter and this might be the ap's version of the truth

02:22:50.120 --> 02:22:51.000
mm-hmm

02:22:54.360 --> 02:23:01.120
that's why uh news news companies pulling their information from ap is how you get the phenomenon

02:23:01.120 --> 02:23:07.980
of you know the 300 news broadcasters saying the same sentence with the same inflection

02:23:07.980 --> 02:23:14.120
and it's a real creepy especially when they overlay them and make videos if you haven't seen

02:23:14.120 --> 02:23:18.400
one of those you definitely should they're really interesting yeah go look it up

02:23:20.960 --> 02:23:26.400
uh all right this was a quadruple amputee

02:23:28.600 --> 02:23:29.900
cornhole player

02:23:30.940 --> 02:23:38.620
fatally shoots man what the heck i know it's a wild story all right that's one heck of a headline

02:23:38.620 --> 02:23:43.760
quadruple amputee cornhole player fatally shoots man mariland authorities say

02:23:45.340 --> 02:23:49.420
a professional cornhole player there's a professional cornhole league

02:23:50.140 --> 02:23:53.740
yes there's america come on you gotta do

02:23:55.380 --> 02:24:01.140
bread and she can do you can do something better than that i think a professional cornhole player

02:24:01.140 --> 02:24:06.660
who's also a quadruple amputee has been accused of fatally shooting a passenger in the front

02:24:06.660 --> 02:24:13.680
seat of a car he was driving during an argument mariland authorities say who was driving the

02:24:13.680 --> 02:24:17.340
quadruple amputee or the person that got shot i think the amputee

02:24:19.740 --> 02:24:24.240
doesn't quadruple amputee mean you have your arms and legs removed

02:24:24.550 --> 02:24:27.500
i would assume so i wonder how he plays cornhole

02:24:28.480 --> 02:24:33.200
that's what i was wondering you talk it with your mouth i have no idea

02:24:34.520 --> 02:24:43.780
oh geez all right let's go on with the story datan james webber 27 was featured by espn in 2023

02:24:43.780 --> 02:24:49.820
in a story of inspiration noting he rode dirt bikes wrestled and played football before becoming

02:24:50.340 --> 02:24:57.140
a professional cornhole player in the same year he wrote an essay for the today's show about how

02:24:57.140 --> 02:25:03.020
he became a professional competitor on sunday night he was arrested and charged as a fugitive

02:25:03.020 --> 02:25:14.320
from justice by police in in albert narl county what that is albert narl i might be county virginia

02:25:14.320 --> 02:25:22.560
the charles county sheriff's office said in a statement charles county is seeking his extradition

02:25:22.560 --> 02:25:27.660
from virginia and said he will be charged with first-degree murder second-degree murder

02:25:27.660 --> 02:25:34.340
and related charges it wasn't clear tuesday whether webby webber has an attorney yet

02:25:34.860 --> 02:25:41.480
messages seeking comment were left for his mother in a 2023 essay for the today's show

02:25:41.480 --> 02:25:47.540
webber said doctors amputated his arms and legs when he was 10 months old to save his life after

02:25:47.540 --> 02:25:52.920
he contracted a serious blood infection his medical team gave him a three percent chance of

02:25:52.920 --> 02:25:59.620
surviving he wrote webber went on to become a professional player of cornhole which players

02:25:59.620 --> 02:26:05.980
throw beanbags through a hole in a slanted wooden board to score points in the essay for the

02:26:05.980 --> 02:26:11.300
today's show he said he learned to grab the beanbag by the corners and throw it using his amputated

02:26:11.300 --> 02:26:21.420
arms webber pulled over after the shooting in la platte maryland and asked two passengers in

02:26:21.420 --> 02:26:28.080
the back of the car to help pull the victim out the charles county sheriff's office said the witness

02:26:28.080 --> 02:26:34.300
the witnesses refused got out of the car and flagged down police officers webber fled with the

02:26:34.300 --> 02:26:42.040
victim still in the car the sheriff's office said two hours later a resident in charlotte hall

02:26:42.040 --> 02:26:50.140
about about a 10 mile drive away reported a body in a yard officers found the victim

02:26:51.160 --> 02:26:56.500
bradrick michael wells 27 of wall dwarf who was pronounced dead at the scene

02:26:57.660 --> 02:27:03.880
the american cornhole league posted a statement on its facebook page saying it is aware of

02:27:03.880 --> 02:27:09.620
allegations involving webber but said it would not comment on what is called an active legal

02:27:09.620 --> 02:27:12.280
situation while proceedings were ongoing

02:27:22.450 --> 02:27:27.330
this is such a strange story because it posts some of the comments here

02:27:29.150 --> 02:27:37.650
from hang on where where are these this must be on x i guess okay somebody says i'm reminded

02:27:37.650 --> 02:27:43.750
of blade runner dude his legs look lethal overcome incredible odds then toss them away

02:27:43.750 --> 02:27:44.750
like a bean bag

02:27:49.230 --> 02:27:55.750
somebody says so many questions here starting with professional a ham cornhole i assume they

02:27:55.750 --> 02:28:01.050
mean bean bag toss professional bean bag toss seriously yeah i brought that one up

02:28:02.790 --> 02:28:11.170
a man with no legs or arms shot someone and drove away evading police wow how that's what i

02:28:11.170 --> 02:28:17.670
want to know i hope this case goes to trial because holy hannah i'd love to hear the trial

02:28:18.790 --> 02:28:24.250
yeah i don't know it doesn't show any pictures of the guy i mean what his limbs look like how do you

02:28:24.250 --> 02:28:30.590
get what do you pull the trigger with yeah that's what i want to know holy cow man all right give

02:28:30.590 --> 02:28:51.920
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02:28:56.400 --> 02:29:03.120
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02:29:03.120 --> 02:29:09.520
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from feature story news in washington i'm nick harper the u.s says it's rescued one of the two

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crew members from a fighter jet that was shot down by iran president donald trump has been briefed

02:30:00.460 --> 02:30:05.760
on the situation as the search and rescue operation continues for the second person in

02:30:05.760 --> 02:30:12.100
that crew videos show a us transport plane and blackhawk helicopter in the skies over iran

02:30:12.100 --> 02:30:19.960
apparently involved in that mission the down jet was reportedly a two-seater f-15e fighter jet

02:30:19.960 --> 02:30:26.500
with a two-man crew it comes after us defense secretary pete hegseth said the us had air

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superiority over iran and could operate virtually unchallenged over the country

02:30:33.700 --> 02:30:40.200
the cuban government is releasing 2000 prisoners in what it's calling a humanitarian and sovereign

02:30:40.200 --> 02:30:46.200
gesture it comes as washington has been putting increasing pressure on cuba in recent months

02:30:46.200 --> 02:30:52.680
including through a months long oil blockade of the island ever since mitch mccann reports

02:30:53.400 --> 02:30:57.840
cuba's embassy in washington see the release of the prisoners is designed to coincide with

02:30:57.840 --> 02:31:02.840
holy week an important religious occasion in a country that's largely catholic according to

02:31:02.840 --> 02:31:07.020
the new york times the prisoner release includes young people those over 60 foreign

02:31:07.020 --> 02:31:12.480
nationals and cubans who live overseas it's unclear of cuba's decision is to appease washington

02:31:12.480 --> 02:31:18.120
whose oil blockade has contributed to devastating power outages in recent months in march donald

02:31:18.120 --> 02:31:22.760
trump told reporters he believed that he would have the honor of taking cuba without providing

02:31:22.760 --> 02:31:28.980
further explanation as to what he meant mitch mccann new york canadian astronaut jeremy

02:31:28.980 --> 02:31:35.520
hansen says he and his team are feeling pretty good as their iran spacecraft takes them to

02:31:35.520 --> 02:31:41.180
the far side of the moon the four astronauts are now hundreds of thousands of miles from the earth

02:31:41.180 --> 02:31:47.620
as part of nasa's artemist two mission efsen stewart smith has more the trip will take the

02:31:47.620 --> 02:31:52.920
astronauts further from earth than anyone has been before in a mission to observe but not land on

02:31:52.920 --> 02:31:58.200
the far side of the moon which is never visible from earth after slingshotting around the earth

02:31:58.200 --> 02:32:02.840
a few times to build up momentum and the right trajectory the crew are now directly on their

02:32:02.840 --> 02:32:08.160
way to the moon and are the first people to leave the earth's orbit since the 1970s there's still a

02:32:08.160 --> 02:32:12.360
few days from reaching the moon though and in the meantime they'll check their equipment control

02:32:12.360 --> 02:32:17.380
systems and plan for the observations they'll be doing when they get close in their first public

02:32:17.380 --> 02:32:22.300
video call since launching commander read wiseman gave an update on their situation those pretty

02:32:22.300 --> 02:32:26.860
tense moments there for a for a second and i gotta tell you there is nothing normal about

02:32:26.860 --> 02:32:33.260
this sending for humans 250 000 miles away is a herculean effort and we are now just realizing

02:32:33.260 --> 02:32:41.240
the gravity of that the u.s economy added 178 000 jobs in march above expectations the u.s

02:32:41.240 --> 02:32:47.740
unemployment rate dropped slightly to 4.3 percent from bureaus worldwide this is efsen

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um we'd love to have a conversation with you but if you don't call us that's okay

02:33:39.620 --> 02:33:43.840
we can talk about something else we have plenty to talk about there's plenty of stuff going on

02:33:43.840 --> 02:33:52.740
the world we could definitely talk about here's the thing that i found an activist post from

02:33:52.740 --> 02:34:03.200
michael zimmerman at bitcoin magazine us senators unveil mind in america act to reshore btc lining

02:34:03.200 --> 02:34:11.180
codified bitcoin strategic rivers reserve this thing turned out so far to be a big nothing

02:34:11.180 --> 02:34:18.580
burger the strategic bitcoin reserve was all made of stolen bitcoin yep well the bitcoin

02:34:18.580 --> 02:34:26.220
hollers hoped it meant that the us was actually going to start um purchasing bitcoin but they had

02:34:26.220 --> 02:34:31.180
no intention of doing anything like that of course not that would be the most intelligent thing to

02:34:31.180 --> 02:34:37.380
do they want to do the easy thing and sell money from people or bitcoin from people just because

02:34:37.380 --> 02:34:43.920
they could yeah they just wanted to wave a wave of flag around and shout about how great they are

02:34:43.920 --> 02:34:52.880
because look at our big pile of stolen bitcoin yep uh the republican senators bill cassidy and

02:34:52.880 --> 02:35:00.220
synthia lumas introduced legislation monday aimed at reshaping the u.s digital asset mining sector

02:35:00.220 --> 02:35:07.480
tightening supply chains and embedding bitcoin into federal reserve strategy the proposal titled

02:35:07.480 --> 02:35:15.100
mind in america act would establish a federal certification program for domestic crypto mining

02:35:15.100 --> 02:35:21.820
operations while phasing out reliance on foreign manufactured hardware um

02:35:24.750 --> 02:35:32.940
huh i wonder if that's like the first step to um to like making it illegal to use a foreign

02:35:32.940 --> 02:35:39.060
mining pool or foreign mining equipment it might be and they might use that to

02:35:39.700 --> 02:35:46.320
oh well now new hampshire is for an equipment or or someone's using a vpn they could use that

02:35:46.320 --> 02:35:55.140
against them too mm-hmm it also seeks to codify donald trump's executive order creating a strategic

02:35:55.140 --> 02:36:02.360
bitcoin reserve placing the policy on statutory footing according to a release on the matter

02:36:05.020 --> 02:36:13.300
yeah i i guess so if they start passing laws that are that you know reference this strategic bitcoin

02:36:13.300 --> 02:36:18.480
reserve then it makes it more of a real thing and it doesn't just fade away into nothingness

02:36:18.480 --> 02:36:22.760
because right now it's really just nothing yeah it definitely is nothing i know they're still

02:36:22.760 --> 02:36:26.700
planning on using stolen bitcoins but once it's codified they're definitely going to start using

02:36:26.700 --> 02:36:31.680
stolen bitcoins and pretend that they're actually you know having a strategic reserve of bitcoin

02:36:31.680 --> 02:36:38.420
when in reality they're just stealing it from people mm-hmm digital asset mining is a big part

02:36:38.420 --> 02:36:43.840
of our economy we should be doing it here in america cassidy said in a statement framing the

02:36:43.840 --> 02:36:53.000
bill as a supply chain and manufacturing initiative that's funny like like bitcoin mining is

02:36:53.960 --> 02:37:01.220
is an actual uh it results in actual goods or you know what i mean like it's silly to

02:37:01.220 --> 02:37:07.480
for my brain to consider bitcoin mining as part of the economy or supply chains that's weird

02:37:07.480 --> 02:37:13.300
lume is tied the legislation to a broader push to position the united states as a global hub

02:37:13.300 --> 02:37:20.180
for digital assets the mind in america act brings this industry home through forward

02:37:20.180 --> 02:37:25.980
thinking initiatives to secure our financial future barham statement barman's statement she said

02:37:27.320 --> 02:37:30.820
the bill directs the department of commerce to create a voluntary

02:37:31.360 --> 02:37:36.660
mind in america certification for mining facilities and pools that meet security and

02:37:36.660 --> 02:37:42.200
sourcing standards certified operators would be required to transition away from hardware linked

02:37:42.200 --> 02:37:49.200
to foreign adversaries over a phased timeline with the goal of full compliance by the end

02:37:49.200 --> 02:37:55.120
of the decade full compliance comply with the magic compliance it's just interesting to

02:37:55.120 --> 02:38:00.760
me that here they are saying oh this is voluntary now but soon enough it won't be yeah and as we

02:38:00.760 --> 02:38:08.500
look back at the uh the great american view point of the bitcoin experiment those who were

02:38:09.100 --> 02:38:14.140
trying to be most compliant with the government are the ones that got hammered the hardest

02:38:15.340 --> 02:38:23.540
so and i'm not telling anybody to be non-compliant or but i'm also not telling you to be compliant

02:38:23.540 --> 02:38:30.740
because that's obviously not a good idea yeah lawmakers and industry advocates have pointed

02:38:30.740 --> 02:38:37.200
to a stark imbalance in the current mining ecosystem while the united states controls an

02:38:37.200 --> 02:38:42.520
estimated 38 percent of global bitcoin hash rate what do you mean the united states

02:38:42.520 --> 02:38:48.140
controls it like the united states government is mining 38 percent of the global bitcoin i don't

02:38:48.140 --> 02:38:54.000
think so they're talking about individuals inside of america right yeah but the way they

02:38:54.000 --> 02:38:59.660
write that sentence sounds so communist government you know what i mean oh they've got to make it

02:38:59.660 --> 02:39:06.380
sound because in the case of the minor in the case of china they can say china controls an

02:39:06.380 --> 02:39:11.140
estimated 38 percent or whatever right and that would be accurate but when they say the united

02:39:11.140 --> 02:39:17.840
states controls that's different like that that's a horrible way to say that because it's not accurate

02:39:18.420 --> 02:39:23.940
anyways roughly 90 percent of specialized mining hardware is produced in chinese firms

02:39:23.940 --> 02:39:33.100
including bitmain and micro bt used to be bitmain was the only one making um good bitcoin miners

02:39:33.100 --> 02:39:39.760
when did that change i don't know apparently there's micro bt now huh interesting i don't

02:39:39.760 --> 02:39:45.620
know anything about that um i haven't even looked at i haven't looked at the mining tech

02:39:45.620 --> 02:39:52.420
or the the market for mining machines for yeah quite a while because i wouldn't mind bitcoin

02:39:53.380 --> 02:39:58.520
uh it'd be too expensive to mine i think yeah i might mine something else but not bitcoin

02:39:58.520 --> 02:40:04.320
well and not even just because it's expensive just because it's not it's by far not my favorite

02:40:04.320 --> 02:40:09.960
coin it's the most popular so i'll use it but it's kind of a piece of junk

02:40:11.320 --> 02:40:18.240
it's so it's so pricey it's so clunky and just so great it's so clunky and just don't and yeah it's

02:40:18.240 --> 02:40:22.880
definitely really clunky like you can't it's only feature his number goes up yeah that's the only

02:40:22.880 --> 02:40:27.260
nice thing about it his number goes up like there are tons of other coins out there that could

02:40:27.260 --> 02:40:34.080
be really great like bitcoin cash dash manero yeah i really like dash for usability um it's let

02:40:34.080 --> 02:40:42.140
me down fewer times than even like bitcoin cash yeah uh and and i'll i'll give it to the bch chain

02:40:42.140 --> 02:40:49.740
like a lot of its shortcomings were due to outside attacks um whether socially engineered attacks or

02:40:49.740 --> 02:40:58.120
actual internet computer related technology attacks they even attacked their own chain once

02:40:58.120 --> 02:41:02.080
kind of they spammed the heck out of their own chain to see what kind of throughput it could get

02:41:02.080 --> 02:41:08.180
and it went ahead and proved that not increasing the block size was really dumb for the bitcoin

02:41:08.180 --> 02:41:14.840
main chain and yet they didn't they kept it up they kept not increasing the block size yeah

02:41:14.840 --> 02:41:21.120
after 92 plus percent of all the miners were signaling yes we want to increase the block

02:41:21.120 --> 02:41:26.820
size and then like two weeks later you know the block stream guys get a million bucks from

02:41:26.820 --> 02:41:35.140
henry the castries and a xa and yeah which is very builder berg related and suddenly

02:41:35.760 --> 02:41:42.460
nope we're just going to do the segwith thing keep the block small uh anyways there's uh

02:41:42.960 --> 02:41:47.400
yeah there's a lot a lot of better coins out there than btc bitcoin

02:41:50.140 --> 02:41:54.880
i'm personally a fan manero or the idea of manero for pricey privacy i've never used

02:41:54.880 --> 02:42:02.460
manero in a transaction yet i've never seen manero but it's really cool and and it has been for a

02:42:02.460 --> 02:42:07.360
long time and i've always kind of been like skeptical that it would work out for a lot of

02:42:07.360 --> 02:42:14.120
reasons that i don't really necessarily want to get into right now but yeah um it's it's held

02:42:14.120 --> 02:42:20.900
in there really well and a lot of people have adopted it and it's cool manero is it cool

02:42:20.900 --> 02:42:33.520
cool and i like that better than btc um but yeah btc is just so sorely lacking and in so many ways

02:42:33.520 --> 02:42:39.020
that it should do you know anything about xrp i've heard i've seen a lot of posts on twitter

02:42:39.020 --> 02:42:46.560
or or now x promoting it i looked into it when it was kind of a new thing and i decided i was

02:42:46.560 --> 02:42:51.220
never gonna buy any and i haven't and i don't i don't read about it it's not interesting to me

02:42:51.220 --> 02:42:55.520
it's uh it's like a it was designed as like a

02:42:57.760 --> 02:43:03.380
as like a second layer for the banks okay uh digital currency for the banks

02:43:03.380 --> 02:43:16.540
it's supposed to be like an interbank sort of currency thing but yeah it the whole i don't

02:43:16.540 --> 02:43:21.600
support wasn't because it was because it was tied to the banks or what made you decide that

02:43:22.680 --> 02:43:26.560
yeah that was part of it and then and then the

02:43:28.520 --> 02:43:36.220
let's see this was a long time ago um so i think the way they had it set up as far as

02:43:37.180 --> 02:43:43.540
so like with the bitcoins got 21 million built in scarcity kind of thing and xrp i think

02:43:43.540 --> 02:43:48.760
doesn't have that i don't think they have a hard cap on how many coins oh that could be a problem

02:43:48.760 --> 02:43:53.720
if people want to produce more coins well they have you know they have ways of controlling it so

02:43:53.720 --> 02:43:58.020
that there's a planned amount of inflation okay there are a lot of coins that don't have a cap

02:43:58.020 --> 02:44:08.080
they're fine yeah but that but certainly back then definitely more so than now the 21 million

02:44:08.080 --> 02:44:15.660
hard cap was was very appealing to me of course i realized after thinking about why do they have

02:44:15.660 --> 02:44:23.520
eight spots after the decimal um that that it doesn't matter if they say there's only going

02:44:23.520 --> 02:44:27.560
to be 21 million because as soon as they start changing how many spots they have after the

02:44:27.560 --> 02:44:33.360
decimal it's the same thing as inflating the total supply yeah and i've been argued with

02:44:33.360 --> 02:44:40.220
that no it's not but if you think about it it does exist it has the exact effect of inflation

02:44:41.620 --> 02:44:49.300
on the existing supply so i don't know and i expect they'll do that at some point that's not

02:44:49.300 --> 02:44:53.480
you know that's years to come that they'll have to do it i figure once you get to million

02:44:53.480 --> 02:44:58.440
dollar bitcoin because then you got what one dollar satoshi yeah and they've got to do

02:44:58.440 --> 02:45:04.000
something to make the the bitcoin more reusable yeah and you can't have one dollar is the very base

02:45:04.000 --> 02:45:10.420
you know um the very smallest amount transactable right because once satoshi is the smallest

02:45:10.420 --> 02:45:16.600
amount transactable it is one one hundred millionth of a coin do you think bitcoin

02:45:16.600 --> 02:45:22.770
could ever go to a million dollars though yeah and not not necessarily because it's

02:45:22.770 --> 02:45:31.690
it's so like you know a million u.s. dollars at that time not only buy you 10 loaves of bread

02:45:31.690 --> 02:45:39.670
or something yeah or a bicycle okay but yes i think it could go way past a million interesting

02:45:39.670 --> 02:45:45.370
yeah depending you know depending on what u.s. dollar does but even if u.s. dollar held its

02:45:45.370 --> 02:45:50.490
current value in terms of actual market goods i still think it could go to a million yes

02:45:50.490 --> 02:45:59.890
okay um you you start seeing the rest of the world use this as a as a you know a worldwide asset in

02:45:59.890 --> 02:46:07.390
which they're trading major goods like oil and um grain and whatever else they trade technology

02:46:07.390 --> 02:46:13.310
weapons they start denominating these things in bitcoin valuation and yeah you could see the

02:46:13.310 --> 02:46:20.150
price go way way up at that point is going to be hard to get yourself more than you know

02:46:20.490 --> 02:46:28.310
point zero zero zero zero five of a bitcoin anymore so might still be a good idea to buy a

02:46:28.310 --> 02:46:33.890
little bit and just put it in a wallet make sure you got those keys yeah you know hard copied down

02:46:33.890 --> 02:46:39.770
somewhere yeah do you think that'll happen in our lifetime i think the whole bitcoin thing

02:46:39.770 --> 02:46:47.290
will play out and die in our lifetime okay it's my guess probably by the time i'm real old but

02:46:47.790 --> 02:46:53.210
yeah yeah i think i think bitcoin will be will die will be replaced by one world currency

02:46:54.270 --> 02:47:00.270
unless people demand something else but yeah you're going towards globalism so it would only

02:47:00.270 --> 02:47:06.130
make sense for there only to be one global currency right yeah the one currency they

02:47:06.130 --> 02:47:12.170
get traded all over the world and it you might come out with i'm sure i'm sure there will be

02:47:12.170 --> 02:47:20.150
local currencies and also somewhat of a competition in the digital currency market like there is now but

02:47:20.150 --> 02:47:26.350
maybe maybe not you know it's varied you might only have three or four alternatives

02:47:26.890 --> 02:47:31.810
and they'll be you know they'll only be allowed to exist as long as they follow a

02:47:31.810 --> 02:47:37.550
certain rule set or something like that but i i don't i don't see a lot of freedom in the

02:47:38.190 --> 02:47:41.530
in the world of money coming just because they made digital money

02:47:42.670 --> 02:47:48.530
okay especially you know after watching all the bitcoin people that started out is like yeah

02:47:48.530 --> 02:47:52.970
this thing gives us freedom from the banks and from inflation and from all the evil things

02:47:52.970 --> 02:47:58.850
the money does and it just turned into oh a number go up and this is a store of value

02:47:58.850 --> 02:48:05.090
and i don't care if it does all the evil things so you know unless people demand

02:48:05.090 --> 02:48:10.630
something better that's what you're going to get but we have a color on the line this is day

02:48:10.630 --> 02:48:16.270
that in new mexico what's on your mind david what you're talking about so break it down so like

02:48:16.270 --> 02:48:21.390
if you're using the dollar or if you're using an ounce of gold or if you're using silver

02:48:21.390 --> 02:48:25.910
or you're using bitcoin whatever okay so you're talking about bitcoin so use that

02:48:25.910 --> 02:48:30.330
but you might as well be talking about gold because what you're really talking about is

02:48:30.330 --> 02:48:33.390
a thing that is

02:48:35.510 --> 02:48:43.970
finite and then you divide that thing into however many divisions you want you the divisions are

02:48:43.970 --> 02:48:53.070
infinite the thing is finite so once again gold and bitcoin for in that respect same thing

02:48:53.490 --> 02:48:58.690
so the numbers you know one million dollars whatever that's completely irrelevant

02:48:59.310 --> 02:49:10.010
um what what is relevant though is you know if people accept the thing in exchange for another

02:49:10.010 --> 02:49:17.350
thing and presently they accept you know a gold we're not going to i'm not talking about the

02:49:17.350 --> 02:49:21.690
fact that you can't go into walmart and buy something with gold but people accept gold people

02:49:21.690 --> 02:49:30.430
accept bitcoin so they're the same in that way and they're both finite and then the way that

02:49:30.430 --> 02:49:39.030
you determine the value is you take the thing and divide it into everything that exists or divide it

02:49:39.030 --> 02:49:46.290
into by everything that exists so every loaf of bread every automobile every acre of land everything

02:49:46.290 --> 02:49:51.950
it has value you know and to simplify it we'll just say okay we're only going to use

02:49:52.670 --> 02:50:00.650
one thing as a as a medium of exchange we're only going to use bitcoin so for this example

02:50:00.650 --> 02:50:09.370
so you take the totality of the bitcoin uh divided by everything that exists which is

02:50:09.370 --> 02:50:18.390
basically equity you know the equity of the universe you know divided into and mathematically

02:50:18.390 --> 02:50:27.350
you're using 21 million not notwithstanding the ones that are you know lost um and and so there

02:50:27.350 --> 02:50:34.430
there you can you can determine the value in bitcoin of everything that exists if you could

02:50:34.430 --> 02:50:39.950
do that mathematical equation which actually you know especially with super computing or quantum

02:50:39.950 --> 02:50:45.010
computing you can do a pretty close estimate but even with pencil and paper you could get

02:50:45.010 --> 02:50:52.730
pretty damn close at estimating what the value of a loaf of bread is uh in this point in time

02:50:53.390 --> 02:51:02.930
in bitcoin so you follow me kind of except when you start talking about the value of

02:51:02.930 --> 02:51:09.290
everything in the universe because that's that goes into the realm of if i say everything on earth

02:51:09.810 --> 02:51:16.450
then oh well you didn't include what's on the moon or what's on mars or what's in the andromeda

02:51:16.450 --> 02:51:21.510
yeah but we don't even know the fully we don't even know the full use of everything on the earth yet

02:51:21.510 --> 02:51:28.730
so there might be a substance here that we don't we don't realize the value in at this time right

02:51:28.730 --> 02:51:33.490
and so then when you do when you do find that value then you add that into your mathematical

02:51:33.490 --> 02:51:40.410
equation well that'd be a very constant constantly changing complicated sort of thing then well no

02:51:40.410 --> 02:51:44.090
it'd be very easy it's like uh what if great arithmetic

02:51:47.390 --> 02:51:54.490
i well no because also you're gonna have a hard time making an assessment of how much of which

02:51:55.470 --> 02:52:04.630
substances exist everywhere no well for our purposes you you you just account for

02:52:05.570 --> 02:52:11.830
what is reasonably known to exist okay the amount accessible to humans at this time then

02:52:12.790 --> 02:52:18.270
okay yeah if you can't use it presently then it doesn't matter if you want to have a separate

02:52:18.270 --> 02:52:23.530
math equation that includes everything that we think we can get to in the next

02:52:23.530 --> 02:52:30.170
five seconds or in the next five minutes or in the next five days or you know whatever length

02:52:30.170 --> 02:52:36.570
of time you want you could include that you could do that math as well but yeah it still has problematic

02:52:36.570 --> 02:52:44.270
externalities in that though like like if somebody discovers a vein of gold that's as large as

02:52:44.270 --> 02:52:49.170
the entire known supply on the planet well they've already done that there's a supposedly an

02:52:49.170 --> 02:52:55.190
asteroid floating out there that is known that has enough gold on it to to make let's say they found

02:52:55.190 --> 02:53:01.070
one in the dirt in the earth you know what i mean and they didn't have to figure out how to go get

02:53:01.070 --> 02:53:06.930
it they just could start mining it might be easier to get the one that's traveling around in space

02:53:06.930 --> 02:53:12.110
that has the gold right on the surface and all you got to do is land a craft on it and then

02:53:12.690 --> 02:53:17.550
load it up and send it back to earth as opposed to looking for what you don't know if it exists

02:53:17.550 --> 02:53:23.370
or not somewhere a mile underground yeah but it causes the necessary reevaluation of the whole scheme

02:53:25.210 --> 02:53:31.870
well welcome to life dude yeah i'm aware of that did you not like did you not like math class when

02:53:31.870 --> 02:53:38.430
you're in school i did not i do like math i did not like math class right you didn't even like school

02:53:38.430 --> 02:53:46.310
dude so you know um so just just assign that job to people that actually enjoy math and

02:53:46.310 --> 02:53:49.310
doing that kind of thing and then you just got asked them for the answer

02:53:50.610 --> 02:53:54.390
mm-hmm all right so what was the uh what was the goal of

02:53:56.110 --> 02:54:02.350
the goal of what so um sorry i i interjected there while you were before i think you got to your

02:54:02.350 --> 02:54:10.610
final point no no i i i never have a final point dude i can keep going and going okay so why would

02:54:10.610 --> 02:54:15.650
we want to never reach i never reached the like to finish my sentence i never reached the end of

02:54:15.650 --> 02:54:22.310
my intellect yeah well we were talking about though was uh having just one currency and evaluating

02:54:23.030 --> 02:54:29.290
that which exists in in that currency that's a simple enough equation i get that

02:54:30.070 --> 02:54:35.950
um right did you have a point about what you know just using one currency

02:54:37.550 --> 02:54:43.270
well first of all that's not realistic we're never gonna use just one currency nor should we

02:54:43.270 --> 02:54:50.450
know we shouldn't the bankers would like it though or who the f cares what the bankers want

02:54:50.450 --> 02:54:58.410
the bankers well then f them i think so too but i don't know what what's the but what's the

02:54:58.410 --> 02:55:02.150
problem but people keep following their incentives and empowering them

02:55:03.870 --> 02:55:10.570
right and so then your job if you don't like it is to think of a way to derail that little scam

02:55:12.050 --> 02:55:21.090
mm-hmm so got enough got some ideas um i i might or might not have ideas about that

02:55:21.830 --> 02:55:28.110
how about how about uh oh oh let's see or i'll oh right oh rightly bill bill i don't know if i have

02:55:28.110 --> 02:55:34.890
any good ideas either dude well come on man just smoke another doobie you'll get an idea

02:55:36.750 --> 02:55:44.790
certainly using an alternative to the currency that you don't like would be one idea right yeah

02:55:44.790 --> 02:55:50.770
yeah so yeah that's that's one good idea that's that's well underway you know with bitcoin and

02:55:50.770 --> 02:55:57.090
Monero and the other million uh altcoins mean coins trading and skills would be a good idea too

02:55:59.010 --> 02:56:04.030
yet well i'm sorry say that again i think i heard you said but i'm not maybe trading and skills could

02:56:04.030 --> 02:56:10.490
be a good idea too yes although that we we used to do that and we and they kind of figured out how to

02:56:10.490 --> 02:56:16.870
game that whole system and so we got a breakdown how did they game that system you know the bankers

02:56:16.870 --> 02:56:24.570
and the other powers that be um so that what they finagled away into getting a large percentage

02:56:24.570 --> 02:56:30.370
of everything you do and then they promised you a good retirement

02:56:32.350 --> 02:56:37.790
well yeah you got to take care of the slaves man i mean the how hard are the slaves gonna work for

02:56:37.790 --> 02:56:43.610
you if when they they're their retirement age because they're they're too uh you know they're

02:56:43.610 --> 02:56:50.070
not they can't do the work anymore if you just off them then you're kind of gonna like the

02:56:50.070 --> 02:56:54.930
other slaves are kind of not going to like work as well if they know that you know when they get

02:56:54.930 --> 02:56:59.470
too old they're going to be like just the dispose though so yeah you got to give them or you got to

02:56:59.470 --> 02:57:04.650
give the slaves a retirement but that's all factored in man they got that covered of course they tax

02:57:04.650 --> 02:57:10.730
you on the retirement too and a lot of cases don't well in almost all cases don't they yes they

02:57:10.730 --> 02:57:15.830
do and they own the medical system which will get the last drop out of you at the end anyways

02:57:15.830 --> 02:57:21.950
and they know it uh they don't i mean you can't take it with you but they certainly don't want you

02:57:21.950 --> 02:57:27.310
leaving it to someone else no they don't they will take that thank you very much this has been free

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