WEBVTT 00:11.180 --> 00:19.280 Jamie J welcome back to yet another dose of truth. What are we going to talk about today? 00:20.180 --> 00:26.080 I think we were just going to do kind of a little brief reminder and a little educational 00:26.080 --> 00:32.040 piece on denial and what denial actually is. I think that word gets thrown around and I think 00:32.040 --> 00:36.080 a lot of times denial is unconscious and people don't realize they're doing it and I think 00:36.080 --> 00:42.760 that we actually live in a culture that promotes denial and sort of tying it into again we always 00:42.760 --> 00:48.000 want to be talking about like satanic ritual abuse and programming and MKUltra and how that kind of 00:48.000 --> 00:51.620 all connects because that's kind of been done on the individual end is being done globally 00:51.620 --> 00:57.020 to denial and so and I'll let you explain how it sort of connects to dissociation but dissociation 00:57.020 --> 01:03.800 is actually a physiological part of the brain that actually physically goes into denial and 01:03.800 --> 01:08.480 compartmentalizes things with amnesia but then there's also kind of a lower level of denial where 01:08.480 --> 01:14.060 people it's an actual psychological defense mechanism which means your ego's guarding itself from 01:14.060 --> 01:19.960 reality doesn't want to be true and so we see like the 1950s housewife where it's like everything's 01:19.960 --> 01:24.520 fine and then they're drinking volume you know doing the dishes like or you know what I mean 01:24.520 --> 01:29.060 like it's always like that we live in like a culture of denial and it's gotten really bad now 01:29.060 --> 01:34.620 where people are like just stepping over homeless people and this is kind of like future rising 01:34.620 --> 01:38.820 which is another defense mechanism where you know it's like oh things will just work themselves 01:38.820 --> 01:42.420 out things will be better and then there's the new age version of like just don't focus on it and 01:42.420 --> 01:46.160 it'll be fine and it's actually gotten so ridiculous that people aren't willing to face 01:46.160 --> 01:51.020 reality like they actually at its core it's like people believing that reality will just go away 01:51.020 --> 01:55.720 if they don't actually acknowledge it which is just lying to yourself and people seem to find 01:55.720 --> 02:02.140 great comfort in doing that but it actually makes you really in a in a very vulnerable dangerous 02:02.140 --> 02:06.880 situation to be in a state of denial when you're not actually looking at what's actually happening 02:06.880 --> 02:13.060 in reality around you and I think that even with what's happening on the planet some people 02:13.060 --> 02:17.080 are waking up but other people are going more into denial and denying what's actually happening 02:17.080 --> 02:21.660 in reality and and it's it's kind of really promoted in our society especially for like 02:21.660 --> 02:26.580 kind of women or like like you know I would say like the nice lady at church who's kind of like 02:26.580 --> 02:31.900 oh it'll just be it'll be fine you know and just always even counselors do that they give people 02:31.900 --> 02:37.000 kind of fake you know oh it'll be fine you'll meet someone and you're gonna you know this is 02:37.000 --> 02:39.780 going to happen in the end and it's like well maybe it's not maybe that's not the reality 02:39.780 --> 02:43.420 like it's like it's the difference between reality and just having a thought about something 02:43.420 --> 02:46.880 that you like the thought better than what's actually happening so let you kind of explain 02:46.880 --> 02:52.060 more about the dissociation part I mean my god everything you just said I think is the whole 02:52.060 --> 03:00.600 podcast right there he just covered it all um yeah no denial as you and I both know it's a 03:00.600 --> 03:05.680 very primitive defense mechanism it's what babies use right because they don't they don't have any 03:05.680 --> 03:12.700 other ability um right and so as a defense defense mechanisms are the way that our 03:12.700 --> 03:17.560 psyche tries to cope with something that it can't cope with right and that's how it ties to 03:17.560 --> 03:22.520 dissociation right so if you can't sorry now go ahead sorry you kind of you cut out there and 03:22.520 --> 03:25.800 then I cut you off but I just before we move on I'm supposed to like so like denial is like when 03:25.800 --> 03:30.320 you can't change the external you change that your experience of the internal and so when you're 03:30.320 --> 03:33.900 talking about a baby I just want people to keep that in mind a baby can't change it's completely 03:33.900 --> 03:39.540 dependent so it'll start changing itself for its experience as the only power it actually has um 03:39.540 --> 03:44.540 okay sorry didn't mean to cut you off there go ahead no actually that's a really good uh 03:44.540 --> 03:51.840 piece to insert there because that's correct and so if the baby has an abusive mother in order 03:51.840 --> 03:59.400 for that baby to survive it has to deny to itself that the mother is abusive because if it admitted 03:59.400 --> 04:05.040 that that would be the end you know the baby has to hold on to the mother for dear life to 04:05.040 --> 04:12.440 survive as bad as she may be right so that denial helps the baby survive the problem is 04:12.440 --> 04:18.780 a lot of adults still are using this defense mechanism you know and you know to me dissociation 04:18.780 --> 04:26.040 there's a relationship because if you're being severely abused as a child you have to split off 04:26.040 --> 04:32.520 and deny what just happened and have amnesia for it in order to keep living and surviving 04:32.520 --> 04:39.260 and putting one foot in front of the other and because the human need for attachment is so deep 04:39.260 --> 04:46.680 it's the it's the biggest need we have beyond even food then you have to do a mental gymnastics 04:46.680 --> 04:53.080 session to distort an abusive situation enough that you can bond with your perpetrator because 04:53.080 --> 05:01.160 the bonding has to be there right so we understand everything has its you know importance 05:01.640 --> 05:08.480 you know just like being reactive in fight or flight has a survival importance it's important 05:08.480 --> 05:13.520 if you're in actual danger not to think because it's too costly it takes too long so you have to 05:13.520 --> 05:20.240 react but then all these mechanisms when we don't as we get grow older we when we're 05:20.240 --> 05:26.800 now still using those we're getting ourselves into trouble right so yeah I think denial 05:26.800 --> 05:36.000 has escalated lately because of the shitstorm that is our world and people just don't know how 05:36.000 --> 05:41.780 to cope and so they're in denial and I've seen this actually when I've when I expose 05:42.560 --> 05:49.160 you know SRA and MK ultra and child trafficking and and these people aren't being rude or 05:49.160 --> 05:54.660 anything but they're literally saying oh my god I can't believe this actually happens right 05:55.380 --> 06:02.160 well and they say it's too heavy for me to hold so I basically can't believe that this is real 06:02.720 --> 06:09.320 why don't you speak to that and and the abusers depend on that they depend on the denial of the 06:09.320 --> 06:13.880 general public like Kathy O'Brien wrote in her book that her abusers would just like 06:13.880 --> 06:19.440 be so arrogant in what they would do because they would they they depended on the denial like 06:19.440 --> 06:23.680 they said nobody would even think to even look at the level of evil we're doing like we'll 06:23.680 --> 06:28.300 just take this child we're trafficking right in front of the security guard and you know I mean like 06:28.300 --> 06:34.640 they're so arrogant because they depend on that denial and denial I think even becomes an addiction 06:34.640 --> 06:39.880 where people get addicted to their denial and they don't want to give it up almost like somebody 06:39.880 --> 06:43.240 would want to give a drug up and people actually use drugs and alcohol and other things to 06:43.240 --> 06:47.340 keep themselves in denial so when they have that feeling come up and so there's cognitive 06:47.340 --> 06:51.220 dissonance in the mind which causes psychic stress having two ideas at once and this ties 06:51.220 --> 06:55.720 to programming but also in general like you can't think you're a good person and you're going to 06:55.720 --> 06:59.660 church on sunday but you're like walking over top of homeless people and you know annoyed that 06:59.660 --> 07:03.480 they're in your parking spot like those two thoughts are incongruent of who you want to believe you 07:03.480 --> 07:08.040 are so you start dissociating off the one that you don't want so that what because they can't 07:08.040 --> 07:11.500 be true at the same time so you start denying and this is what programming is really they do 07:11.500 --> 07:17.360 this on purpose um and so there's kind of an argument and I've I've had lots of conversations 07:17.360 --> 07:21.140 about this I'm not sure where you sit on it max but like and and with survivors that 07:21.140 --> 07:27.360 have DID and stuff like some of them will say um dissociation is voluntary and I don't know if they 07:27.360 --> 07:31.480 just have been because I'm trying to tell them you know you're not actually responsible for 07:31.480 --> 07:35.580 something that you've just it's involuntary to associate when you associate you've lost your 07:35.580 --> 07:41.700 agency and some survivors actually have really argued with me and said no it's um it's you 07:41.700 --> 07:47.800 choose to dissociate and and I I disagree but I do know that some actual survivors do feel that way 07:48.290 --> 07:53.000 I do know that after somebody has wired their brain for dissociation whether that's through 07:53.000 --> 07:58.200 child abuse or mk ultra or satanic original abuse they do a lot of them have the ability to 07:58.200 --> 08:03.760 dissociate on with of an act of their will later but when they were a child it was involuntary 08:03.760 --> 08:07.400 but then once they have that ability they can kind of use it more when they want 08:07.400 --> 08:11.320 so that could be more of a voluntary use of it but I'm actually on the side where I believe 08:11.320 --> 08:17.600 dissociation is involuntary so I think when the trauma hits it becomes involuntary um but it's 08:17.600 --> 08:23.440 it is a physiological reaction to something like so the denial kind of comes before dissociation 08:23.440 --> 08:28.000 but it's the dissociation is there because it needs to deny deny something so I don't know you 08:28.000 --> 08:32.640 could probably speak to that more from your perspective as well oh I think it's involuntary 08:32.640 --> 08:39.940 as well yeah and you know I've done so much work on myself but I still find in moments that 08:39.940 --> 08:44.400 I'm just like there's there'll be a day where I'm very dissociated and it's frustrating 08:45.100 --> 08:50.600 I I don't want that to be the case I feel frustrated that I spaced out and forgot 08:50.600 --> 08:57.360 10 things that I was supposed to do right so then I go in and examine like what caused that 08:57.360 --> 09:02.600 dissociation today what what what was some trigger that I didn't even notice was a trigger for me 09:02.600 --> 09:10.120 like am I am I juggling too much in the last few days like it's you know what it's it's definitely 09:10.120 --> 09:19.760 not voluntary I don't like it I wish that I had you know uh I'm not I'm not it's not to the point 09:19.760 --> 09:26.360 it was when I was younger but yeah no I I definitely don't think it's voluntary yeah and I and I 09:26.360 --> 09:30.040 agree with you and I just I respect people to have like I have actually had this debate with 09:30.040 --> 09:33.780 people and I just agree to disagree because they feel differently and they have a right to but 09:34.420 --> 09:38.880 like I kind of see it as that would be really like kind of shame invoking and for people to 09:38.880 --> 09:41.920 believe that you just see what they didn't or that they're responsible for things done under 09:41.920 --> 09:48.820 programming or under an associative state and so I think that the person who believes that 09:48.820 --> 09:54.920 was probably programmed to believe that as in order to be able to instill shame in them 09:54.920 --> 09:58.760 and accountability that's not there or so that they feel responsible if things are not 09:58.760 --> 10:04.820 and I believe that's actually a program but that's the way I look at it but I mean yeah some people 10:04.820 --> 10:10.180 really disagree on that but yeah I'm with you Max like I think it's completely involuntary and I 10:10.180 --> 10:14.600 think it can be used voluntarily later a little bit once people can but I think there's 10:15.320 --> 10:20.760 that involuntary so like in society though you know the people that are going into denial 10:20.760 --> 10:27.180 about reality like people you know it's it's interesting to me like how bad it's actually 10:27.180 --> 10:32.100 gotten in the last like 10 years and how people still think that like they don't actually have to 10:32.100 --> 10:35.460 do anything and things are going to be just work out and flip the other way and you know what I mean 10:35.460 --> 10:41.400 like um and um yeah it's it's really interesting to me like it's almost like and and I believe 10:41.400 --> 10:47.760 it was Joseph Mengele who said it was either gobbles or Mengele um said the more we do to 10:47.760 --> 10:52.840 people the less they believe we're doing um and so you see that happening now like things 10:52.840 --> 10:56.280 are getting really like there's like elderly people going for the maid program and living 10:56.280 --> 11:01.400 on the street and there's like so many homeless people and like and people are still like voting 11:01.400 --> 11:06.400 for politicians and thinking it's that like or that politics is another really good one 11:06.400 --> 11:12.620 like that's a good one yeah I I think every single politician it just blows my mind that 11:12.620 --> 11:16.280 people still actually believe the next person's going to do what they say it's like somebody 11:16.280 --> 11:20.620 that's cheated on you for years and they say oh no I'm not going to cheat on you this time 11:20.620 --> 11:26.640 just give me a chance and it's like this is the level of like little kids voting for politicians 11:26.640 --> 11:30.460 actually thinking that they care about them or their country when like if you look at the 11:30.460 --> 11:33.760 reality of what these politicians that they're not loyal to the countries at all anymore 11:33.760 --> 11:39.900 they're loyal to super national organizations that have no loyalty to countries so again 11:39.900 --> 11:44.060 as people projecting qualities onto people like you were talking about with that little baby 11:44.060 --> 11:48.100 projecting onto the mother that it's carrying and projection is another big part of denial 11:48.100 --> 11:52.240 so when you deny reality you kind of project onto people what you need them to be and it's like 11:52.240 --> 11:56.360 these controllers know this and they're really using it against people and so 11:56.360 --> 12:00.420 another thing with denial and it ties into why I think of it as an addiction is because when 12:00.420 --> 12:05.060 you try to help somebody by like just giving them information they their ego feels like it's 12:05.060 --> 12:09.840 being attacked and they want to fight you because you're destroying the construct they've 12:09.840 --> 12:13.960 made to them that their own minds in their own mind which they feel very threatened by that 12:13.960 --> 12:18.680 when the truth is the truth is neutral but because it's an ego driven defense like they don't want 12:18.680 --> 12:23.100 their what they've constructed to be destroyed it feels like death to them and so this is really 12:23.100 --> 12:28.520 I think one of the biggest like the biggest battle because these people that do really evil 12:28.520 --> 12:32.960 stuff they're they're pretty rational like they they know when to do something they're 12:32.960 --> 12:38.040 kind of playing chess in a very left-brain rational way whereas the people in the middle 12:38.040 --> 12:42.760 that have gone into Nile are not rational anymore and so they're being used as the 12:42.760 --> 12:47.360 pawns and you can't really appeal to their logic anymore so like this I find is a lot of 12:47.360 --> 12:51.560 my life and I know it is probably for YouTube acts and especially because I worked in addiction 12:51.560 --> 12:55.900 like it's like defense mechanism I feel like one of those tennis ball machines where I'm the 12:55.900 --> 12:59.860 machine throwing the balls and the person just has a tennis racket like batting down 12:59.860 --> 13:03.460 with their defense mechanisms and I try to think of it as a game sometimes but I mean 13:03.460 --> 13:08.600 stuff's gotten to a really serious level where we need to get out of denial yeah and I think 13:08.600 --> 13:14.560 that's probably the the best illustration of it is the political system there is the system 13:14.560 --> 13:24.320 that supposedly you vote for this these two people here in America right and that you know they promise 13:24.320 --> 13:29.960 that they're gonna you know lower taxes and there's going to be more health care and you know 13:29.960 --> 13:34.360 there's going to be better it's the same every time they don't even come up with new lives 13:34.360 --> 13:39.640 they literally all just tell the same lie but if you and if you've lived long enough 13:39.640 --> 13:45.460 you know you see this cycle every four years so I think by the time you're in your 40s or 50s 13:45.460 --> 13:50.040 you should have woken up to the fact that doesn't matter what side they're on doesn't 13:50.040 --> 13:56.880 matter they all say the same thing and then what happens is that the very things they promise 13:56.880 --> 14:06.100 actually get worse and worse and worse you know so it's at some point that denial has to go because 14:06.100 --> 14:13.340 it's right in your face the proof that these people are liars and have done absolutely nothing 14:13.830 --> 14:19.960 for their country let's say they're a leader of a country in fact they've taken more of your 14:19.960 --> 14:24.680 money they've put more regulations on you they've trafficked more children you know like all 14:24.680 --> 14:31.600 these organizations that have sprung up for you know the situation has declined so at some point 14:31.600 --> 14:39.680 the denial it's the fact is in your face but the denial continues and the denial causes people to 14:40.200 --> 14:46.640 hope for a better leader and it's such a playbook I mean I we just saw it with the left 14:46.640 --> 14:51.300 you know it's all theater you know like I always say it's blue donkey production starring 14:51.300 --> 14:59.440 Joe Biden and everyone was like oh I you know and then that reality set in and then people thought 14:59.440 --> 15:05.000 well now Trump is you know a red elephant production now Trump's riding on a white horse and 15:05.000 --> 15:10.520 everything's gonna be much better he's the one and it's like how many times have you gone 15:10.520 --> 15:19.000 through this cycle and that denial is keeping the psychopaths in power it's keeping the oppression 15:19.000 --> 15:24.260 going it's keeping the it's increasing the enslavement so there has I mean that is so 15:24.260 --> 15:31.240 dangerous it's actually dangerous like I firmly am in the camp of not I don't vote 15:31.860 --> 15:39.440 because I'm not in denial and so my me withholding a vote is me saying I do not consent to the 15:39.440 --> 15:44.500 system of oppression of government that's telling me what to do enslaving me taking money 15:44.500 --> 15:51.420 you know doing all these horrible things so it's yeah people like they keep waiting and 15:51.420 --> 15:57.080 I think it connects to being saved I think it connects to a savior program it's this idea that 15:57.080 --> 16:01.700 the next one well you know a lot of people think Trump is different and he's saving us 16:02.400 --> 16:08.380 I get people all the time telling me when I expose you know child trafficking they say well 16:08.380 --> 16:15.840 don't worry Jesus will save the children you know in new age people say well the Pleiadians are 16:15.840 --> 16:22.600 coming and they'll fix everything so the denial then goes into I can just avoid this situation 16:22.600 --> 16:26.940 because somebody else is going to come and make it better yeah that's a really good connection 16:26.940 --> 16:30.410 max I didn't really think about how connected that was before you said that but yeah it goes 16:30.410 --> 16:37.070 hand in hand right um yeah and and yeah again it's like it's just refusing to actually do what's 16:37.070 --> 16:42.610 required um and I and the last show we did on bullying it's like you know people want to just 16:42.610 --> 16:49.830 not get involved and and stuff and and then but like I don't know it's I can't think that way 16:49.830 --> 16:54.870 just because of my life and my experience you know what I mean um like my mind I'm not able 16:54.870 --> 16:58.970 to be in denial about certain things anymore because I just know too much and I've experienced 16:58.970 --> 17:04.190 the consequence of being in denial or projecting qualities under a person that I wanted them to be 17:04.190 --> 17:08.610 and I like I've experienced the consequences of me being ignorant in that area like I've gotten the 17:08.610 --> 17:14.890 feedback from that were to me it's not a question um and so yeah it's again like when 17:14.890 --> 17:20.130 I am sure something's happening I instantly start taking the actions that I know that are required 17:20.130 --> 17:24.690 even if I'm scared and I'm tired and I don't want to do it I know that if I don't it's 17:24.690 --> 17:31.590 worse and not just for me but for everybody else like I know what is required um and that's not to 17:31.590 --> 17:35.510 act like I'm better than anybody else but I'm just saying I've actually I've actually tried the other 17:35.510 --> 17:40.530 way and and like for me that's not an option anymore where like like even in the town that I'm 17:40.530 --> 17:44.130 in now there's like bullying going on with people's animals and stuff and people don't want to get 17:44.130 --> 17:49.130 involved and as soon as I knew what was actually happening like I was sure of what's actually 17:49.130 --> 17:52.390 happening like you can't apply to these people's moral reasoning like they're just being 17:52.390 --> 17:56.050 bullied they just don't care they just want to violate people's rights like as soon as I knew that 17:56.050 --> 18:00.810 I was like okay now I have to actually do something I can't just stick my head in the sand because it 18:00.810 --> 18:06.370 was actually coming to my doorstep so you know um and that's a good analogy for like the bigger 18:06.370 --> 18:09.790 world system of what's happening like it is coming into people's doorsteps like people 18:09.790 --> 18:14.210 I've said this before on many many podcasts no one's allowed to stay on the sidelines now 18:14.210 --> 18:18.570 if you think you're on the sidelines of what's happening you are in a state of denial 18:18.570 --> 18:23.370 you think you're not in the game you think you just get to watch from the sidelines and 18:23.370 --> 18:28.030 that someone else is going to go fight and you might just be cheering for your team or some people 18:28.030 --> 18:31.790 but like you actually are going to be spiritually accountable for what you do 18:31.790 --> 18:37.750 and you actually are in the game whether you recognize it or not and not recognizing it will 18:37.750 --> 18:44.570 just make you not play and that's actually not going to save you even if you exist you're 18:44.570 --> 18:48.750 going to be living in such a state of hell for real that you're you will actually wish that 18:48.750 --> 18:51.490 wasn't the choice you made if you if you actually just think you're going to 18:51.490 --> 18:56.050 coward your way into some type of safety it actually doesn't mathematically work that way 18:57.430 --> 19:07.270 yeah no and and denial is something that is allowing the perpetrators of our world to 19:07.270 --> 19:13.390 hurt us into the dystopian future agenda that they so desire you know so that you're 19:13.390 --> 19:19.250 right they count on it and you mentioned it a second ago but another aspect that goes with denial 19:19.250 --> 19:27.570 is projection so you and I both know psychologically if a person denies something in them a trauma 19:28.090 --> 19:34.150 let's call it your shadow your shadow is all the denied parts of you then there is always 19:34.150 --> 19:40.210 an impulse to see so what happens is that shadow those shadow parts that are denied in the self 19:40.210 --> 19:47.790 it are projected onto people in front of you and then attacked there because you know you can't deal 19:47.790 --> 19:53.070 with it you're not dealing with it in yourself so then people are projecting all the time 19:53.070 --> 20:00.530 then that causes all kinds of horrible relational problems everyone is attacking 20:00.530 --> 20:07.790 each other and well that serves the cult's interests as well you know here it's a part 20:07.790 --> 20:15.210 it's a way to you know it's certain it it branches that denial has all these tentacles that reach out 20:15.210 --> 20:23.250 that cause all kinds of other horrible things which eventually affect us right so yeah it definitely 20:23.250 --> 20:30.530 has it is also related to projection yeah and there's good projection and bad projection 20:30.530 --> 20:35.450 and counter projection and so people always I think are pretty familiar with like 20:35.450 --> 20:39.750 bad projection like stuff you don't like about yourself you're putting the finger on everybody 20:39.750 --> 20:44.510 else but there's also like projecting like that like you explain about the baby and the mother 20:44.510 --> 20:49.070 and people doing the politicians you're projecting good qualities onto them aren't there because 20:49.070 --> 20:52.730 when you're acting like a coward and not being a self-responsible person like you're actually 20:52.730 --> 20:58.630 denying your own good qualities of like bravery courage doing the right thing be having integrity 20:58.630 --> 21:01.870 and morality and so like when you're denying it in yourself you're actually projecting it 21:01.870 --> 21:06.410 onto these savior figures and thinking that it's outside of you and it's on them and they're gonna 21:06.410 --> 21:11.450 do it for you because you're denying your own courage to do the right thing and then also with 21:11.450 --> 21:17.670 evil people they a lot of the times they can rationalize their own abuse of people is because 21:17.670 --> 21:21.850 they think you're just as bad as them they don't actually realize you're not and so there's 21:21.850 --> 21:26.810 this you know the empath empath and the narcissist is like a really good example of that where 21:26.810 --> 21:32.030 that that that abuser doesn't actually they actually think that the the person they're abusing is just 21:32.030 --> 21:36.050 as bad as them at their core when they're not and then the empath is projecting all these excuses 21:36.050 --> 21:41.210 onto the abuser and making excuses for the behavior because they don't want to again they're 21:41.210 --> 21:44.730 going into denial of like this person actually has a different brain and is not experienced 21:44.730 --> 21:50.670 reality the same as you and so I think for me one of the biggest things in my life was 21:50.670 --> 21:55.610 understanding dark personalities because I was that like little child that was projecting 21:55.610 --> 22:00.410 qualities onto parents and people around me and and and boyfriends or employers you know like I said 22:00.410 --> 22:03.370 I worked at all these nonprofits where I'm like oh they're all just good people trying to help 22:03.890 --> 22:09.790 they're not they're not and so for me like my one of the biggest styles I had to get through was 22:09.790 --> 22:15.470 realizing that there's different types of consciousness in human bodies and so really 22:15.470 --> 22:20.590 understanding that you're not dealing with it's not the same as othering really it's like 22:20.590 --> 22:24.030 but just realizing you're not dealing with somebody that is having the same reality 22:25.590 --> 22:31.990 perception as you and doesn't have the same parts and so like it's it's just realizing you're dealing 22:31.990 --> 22:36.230 with something different and the danger of projecting yourself onto that person because 22:36.230 --> 22:40.190 you're not going to interact with them in a in a way they need to be at like it's going 22:40.190 --> 22:44.230 to a zoo and thinking you can pet a tiger and I know you can do that in Thailand I have 22:44.230 --> 22:49.290 done it but that tiger was drugged which is also really not cool but you know it's that 22:49.290 --> 22:53.530 where you think you can project oh I'm gonna go pet the bear that's coming on my porch or something 22:53.530 --> 22:57.530 because it's so cute and fuzzy it's like no it's a bear you can't get mad at a bear for being a 22:57.530 --> 23:02.230 bear but it will shred you so don't go and pet it because you think it's fuzzy and cute you know 23:02.850 --> 23:08.730 people have actually done that I've seen videos people like going to pet like a moose it's like 23:08.730 --> 23:15.330 it doesn't end well yeah now that's a good point there is that that good projection and that's 23:15.330 --> 23:23.110 what people and you know unfortunately the average person projects that goodness and those qualities 23:23.110 --> 23:31.250 of being a good leader and caring on the very psychopaths that are the exact opposite whether 23:31.250 --> 23:39.610 they're presidents or heads of state or global leaders or Hollywood people or you know popes I 23:39.610 --> 23:47.250 mean a lot of people think the pope is is the next thing closest to God and that person is a pedophile 23:47.850 --> 23:54.710 who's doing satanic rituals on children and is worshiping Lucifer but when I say that it triggers 23:54.710 --> 24:01.870 a lot of people and they go into denial you know no I'm I've had it flipped on me and told that 24:01.870 --> 24:08.290 I'm a Luciferian for saying that yeah yeah that's a really good example Max and I'm glad you 24:08.290 --> 24:11.890 brought it up because I was just getting the same thing in my mind it must have been telepathy because 24:11.890 --> 24:18.250 it was like thinking about like that the example of the pedophile right and so and and there's 24:18.250 --> 24:22.630 different levels of pedophile I hate even the fact that I have to say like everyday average 24:22.630 --> 24:27.470 pedophiles to like extreme organized pedophiles but it's all it's all horrible but there's 24:27.470 --> 24:33.290 kind of different variants of it like sound intentionally for creating dissociative identity 24:33.290 --> 24:37.930 and for strategic abuse and some of it's just like more organic just human sickness playing 24:37.930 --> 24:44.790 out in different levels but you'll notice this theme of you know the person loves to be seen as a 24:44.790 --> 24:49.530 good person they're that they're getting off on that probably just as much as using power control 24:49.530 --> 24:55.630 to sex in a sexual way over the child so they're also you know mind effing the entire family 24:55.630 --> 24:59.510 they're grooming the entire family they're grooming the entire society that is part of 24:59.510 --> 25:04.830 the thrill for them is the fact that you think that they wouldn't do that and then even when 25:04.830 --> 25:09.910 people come forward and say oh grandpa did this or this boy scout leader did this everybody says 25:09.910 --> 25:15.470 they instantly go into denial and say oh well he wouldn't do that he's such a nice man at church 25:15.470 --> 25:20.190 or he's such a great coach or you know what I mean like this is what people need to get past 25:20.190 --> 25:25.710 is you need to understand how much these people love the fact that you do that they depend on 25:25.710 --> 25:30.110 you doing that and that's why they get so arrogant that they become boy scout leaders teachers 25:30.110 --> 25:35.510 like right in the parent space picking the kid up right in front of you like that to them they get 25:35.510 --> 25:41.870 so much joy out of that grooming and tricking and and the um dupers delight of tricking everybody 25:41.870 --> 25:47.690 into thinking that they're a really good wholesome person and um and then they project all those 25:47.690 --> 25:52.490 qualities onto the child of the child not being something sacred to be protected they project 25:52.490 --> 25:57.550 their own like inner psyche and wounded child onto that child and then and to justify the 25:57.550 --> 26:01.690 abuse so it's like all this projection going on but you know that's the same and then you see how 26:01.690 --> 26:06.630 this type of person this type of personality and I've always said that narcissism and pedophilia 26:06.630 --> 26:11.950 are connected because a narcissist is five years old and and that's why they're even attracted to 26:11.950 --> 26:15.770 children because they're they are five and so they're they're attracted to five-year-old 26:15.770 --> 26:20.330 emotionally it's a really sick thing but it's so connected the narcissism and pedophilia 26:20.330 --> 26:26.150 and then you see this type of personality also likes power and control and so that's why 26:26.150 --> 26:31.230 we have like politicians who are in pedophile rings that and they're also easy to blackmail 26:31.730 --> 26:35.850 but um you know there's a real connection between people who want power and control 26:35.850 --> 26:40.390 which is what pedophilia actually is it's just a sexual version of that but they love 26:40.390 --> 26:44.810 the deception they love being the snake in a suit they love being having the mask of 26:44.810 --> 26:48.950 the good person that you trust and you send your positive energy and you believe in them and 26:48.950 --> 26:54.290 that to them is the whole game like we need to stop giving them that we need to hold a 26:54.290 --> 26:59.410 mirror up to them not to be projecting all the qualities onto them like it's that is one of the 26:59.410 --> 27:06.070 main games being played yeah and that's really really tragic and that's exactly what happens 27:06.070 --> 27:15.450 where a child will say so-and-so is doing this to me and oh no that's not possible they're a 27:15.450 --> 27:21.310 well-renowned pediatrician or they're the star teacher of the school they're the principal 27:21.310 --> 27:30.310 of the school they're the that's the the bishop no you know no that's the mega millionaire billionaire 27:30.310 --> 27:37.770 head of a corporation they would never do that or you know that's the that's child protective services 27:37.770 --> 27:46.710 they protect children I mean in fact I there's a situation with someone I know who told me that 27:46.710 --> 27:55.710 a friend of hers who has twins young two-year-old twins and is a single mother was overwhelmed 27:56.090 --> 28:05.510 and so called child protective services for help and now is facing them trying to kidnap her 28:05.510 --> 28:12.870 children so in her in her innocence in her denial she goes to the very agency that 28:12.870 --> 28:18.770 traffics children to tell them she's depressed and struggling and now they're going to take her 28:18.770 --> 28:26.830 children and traffic them I mean it's really so in that case denial had a very rapid instant karma 28:26.830 --> 28:33.930 consequence and you know so people we need to really think about that you know snitching on your 28:33.930 --> 28:42.010 neighbor uh yeah well you're next you know so this is yeah this is a really primitive really 28:42.650 --> 28:50.090 kind of can be a necessary mechanism if you're you know a baby say but as an adult we really 28:50.090 --> 28:54.590 have to snap out of the denial and I mean I get that too when I expose things I've been through 28:54.590 --> 28:59.910 there are a few people that will say no you're lying you're making that up as if you know 28:59.910 --> 29:06.930 and that that doesn't exist that's the level of denial you know because maybe you know maybe it hurts 29:06.930 --> 29:12.850 too much to acknowledge that this is the way you know people they don't want to believe that the 29:12.850 --> 29:19.770 world is evil they want to believe that government is a good parent that the global the WHO is a 29:19.770 --> 29:25.530 good medical thing they want to believe like you say they project this goodness and it's 29:25.530 --> 29:33.130 really stressful for them to admit that that's actually the opposite even with evidence out the 29:33.130 --> 29:38.070 wazoo right in front of their face that that is the case yeah it's just choosing to believe 29:38.070 --> 29:42.170 what you want to be true which um like I said you can get away with that for a little while 29:42.170 --> 29:47.630 you could you know being a coward or being a denial can definitely um prolong and extend 29:47.630 --> 29:53.370 things from coming into your reality for a short time maybe a little bit longer time 29:53.370 --> 29:59.070 but it's never actually going to protect you like it's like standing on a train track and saying oh 29:59.070 --> 30:03.550 you know the train's pretty far away I'm gonna not think about it it's gonna not gonna be here for 30:03.550 --> 30:07.050 20 minutes I have enough time to tie my shoes or whatever right and then I guess it's getting 30:07.050 --> 30:11.430 closer and closer and closer and like at some point you're being a denial is not actually 30:11.430 --> 30:14.490 stopping that train from coming and at the point when the trains are in front of your face 30:14.490 --> 30:20.310 like um that's why I like I was trying to give some advice to somebody whose mother's really 30:20.310 --> 30:25.310 in denial and um she signed she signed a bunch of legal papers and everything and I said like 30:25.690 --> 30:30.590 you need to sit her down and like don't let her out of the hot seat like you can't play this game 30:30.590 --> 30:34.330 I'm like that's like that's like leaving your mother on a train track with the train coming 30:34.330 --> 30:37.470 you don't want to hurt her feelings or make her upset by telling her there's a train coming 30:37.470 --> 30:42.070 you're gonna let your mother get crushed by a train um at some point if you have to kick 30:42.070 --> 30:47.970 someone in the head to get them off the track that's okay um and I think we're kind of at 30:47.970 --> 30:55.390 that point in in history um where we don't need to be playing these little denial games because 30:55.390 --> 31:01.130 at some point the train's actually pretty close and so like I don't have a problem kicking somebody 31:01.830 --> 31:06.630 to get them off the track I think they'll they'll thank me later um but yeah there's 31:06.630 --> 31:11.770 also a lot of people because we're so conditioned especially in Canada to be nice um they 31:11.770 --> 31:17.230 don't want to um push up against people's denial because a lot of people are vicious when you 31:17.230 --> 31:20.930 push on their denial which is actually a sign that they are denial it's like it's like if somebody 31:20.930 --> 31:25.230 didn't have a drinking problem and and and you said that to them they probably wouldn't get all 31:25.230 --> 31:31.330 like vicious at you but the fact that they do like shows you it's a sore spot um so yeah it's 31:31.330 --> 31:35.730 it's like people are conditioned not to push up against everybody else's now everybody feeds 31:35.730 --> 31:40.270 each other's denial almost in a kind of a cult mentality where we're all going to pretend 31:40.270 --> 31:44.670 this is true and like kind of reinforce each other's denial um you know what I mean and 31:44.670 --> 31:49.630 you see this in in society when like we have to go about and just act like everything's normal 31:49.630 --> 31:52.930 and fine when you go in public when like it's like there's really stuff we should all be talking 31:52.930 --> 31:56.750 about happening a train coming it's like we're just sitting having a coffee on the track trying 31:56.750 --> 32:00.310 to be polite and make small talk with people both pretending we don't see the train out of the 32:00.310 --> 32:08.050 corner of our eye and that's kind of where humanity's at right now so um yeah oops yeah now 32:08.050 --> 32:15.690 it's it's pretty disturbing um the other day as often happens everywhere um where I live they had 32:15.690 --> 32:20.770 they were chemtrailing the sky like crazy like they were strikes going this way there was strikes 32:20.770 --> 32:26.330 going this way and I said to someone oh dear like it was it could have been a nice sunny day 32:26.330 --> 32:36.230 but they've chemtrail what no that's not it's like uh look up yeah that's a good one max 32:36.230 --> 32:40.610 because that's there's a visual we're like most of the denial stuff is not visually there but the 32:40.610 --> 32:44.990 chemtrails is such a good one because it's like visually you can see it and you can both look at 32:44.990 --> 32:50.950 it at the same time and people still are like oh I'm just seeing clouds you know right that's 32:50.950 --> 32:56.770 what the person said well those are clouds it's like uh no no those are not clouds clouds 32:56.770 --> 33:05.370 don't crisscross and yeah for triangles and shapes and I mean no yeah but yeah again yeah 33:05.370 --> 33:12.310 and that's how you know it's it's a trick of the mind right yeah it's stressful for it was 33:12.310 --> 33:18.910 stressful for that person can't hold the reality that the very people that are supposed to 33:19.410 --> 33:25.590 protect you and run a country and blah blah blah are actually poisoning you and poisoning the 33:25.590 --> 33:34.510 air you breathe deliberately like this is I think and of all the everything that it boils down to I think 33:35.430 --> 33:42.530 people are going to need to overcome the denial that an evil group of psychopathic pedophile satanic 33:42.530 --> 33:49.150 parasitic people run the planet and they're a death cult and they want to harm you they want 33:49.150 --> 33:54.390 to poison you they want to rape your children and they want to completely enslave you and 33:54.390 --> 34:00.770 merge you with machine so they can fully control you and harvest your energy for their needs I mean I 34:00.770 --> 34:07.730 just I think I covered it all right like you just have to accept that as a fact so we can start uh 34:07.730 --> 34:15.110 coming to a solution for this yeah exactly and I was just thinking about that today because 34:15.110 --> 34:19.330 I was like it's so irrational to make life hell for all the humans on the earth like with 34:19.330 --> 34:23.490 paying rent and the food and and I'm trying to think like it just doesn't make sense like 34:23.490 --> 34:27.210 even if you had a farm of animals you're like oh I'm gonna make it make the bunny hutch nice and 34:27.210 --> 34:31.290 make the chickens happier whatever like I was just thinking this morning like why would you do something 34:31.290 --> 34:35.710 that makes all humans miserable and then I started to think about is because they don't really care 34:35.710 --> 34:40.750 about our consciousness they just want our biological bodies to hold their consciousness and 34:40.750 --> 34:46.450 so once they've kicked it out with like drugs or whatever they can kick out your your spirit 34:46.450 --> 34:50.790 consciousness like they they actually just want our biological bodies to put their 34:50.790 --> 34:55.450 consciousness into so they don't really care it's like they kind of like grew a batch of 34:56.870 --> 35:01.370 living biological beings that they need to hold technology in and so that's why 35:01.370 --> 35:06.290 they actually don't care about our feelings you know what I mean like it's um that's the only 35:06.290 --> 35:10.630 way I can make sense of it so yeah what you just said max is really good um to sum it up and 35:10.630 --> 35:15.730 that is the denial people need to get get out of because that is reality and um yeah seems really 35:15.730 --> 35:22.230 sci-fi but it's uh that's what's happening guys well we're in a spiritual war we have been and it's 35:22.230 --> 35:29.310 at a tipping point and so denial now just means you'll go down you know there's really it's it's 35:29.310 --> 35:34.610 it's do or die right now yeah I just had the um little meme of people like watching Monty 35:34.610 --> 35:39.110 Monty Python the black knight when it when the knight comes up oh yeah and people who watch 35:39.110 --> 35:42.750 Python and he cuts the arms and legs off and the knight's laying there with just a torso 35:42.750 --> 35:47.570 saying oh it's just a scratch it's just a scratch I'm like that I had to post that actually because 35:47.570 --> 35:51.530 I'm like that is what I feel like I'm dealing with every day with people in denial like getting their 35:51.530 --> 35:55.630 legs out of it and still think they're fine it's like it's how how bad does it have to get before 35:55.630 --> 36:04.270 you wake up so yeah I don't know but um it we're really at a point where it is it's like 36:04.270 --> 36:11.190 wake up because if you do if you take away the denial a whole another thing opens up which is 36:11.190 --> 36:17.890 the solutions the things that we can all do is it comfortable no do we have to actually 36:18.470 --> 36:27.070 exert effort and courage and energy yes but it's between that or become I mean the suffering 36:27.970 --> 36:35.210 of we already are experiencing much less when the final agenda has closed its door you know I mean 36:35.770 --> 36:44.470 I don't want that I'd rather fight to the death so yeah um and just to close off here I'm sorry I 36:44.470 --> 36:48.210 think my battery's actually gonna die I don't know where my cord is I hope it's a cut out yeah um 36:48.730 --> 36:53.070 just to end off like if you if you're in denial you actually can't make rational decisions 36:53.790 --> 36:57.670 people become irrational like if you have a calculator and the number seven stuck down 36:57.670 --> 37:01.290 doesn't matter how smart you are you're gonna be off by seven and what you calculate out 37:01.290 --> 37:06.010 for your decisions to navigate reality so getting up out of denial actually is like lifting that number 37:06.010 --> 37:09.650 seven up and then you can actually make decisions because you actually have the correct numbers 37:09.650 --> 37:13.890 to calculate and so you only get empowered by getting out of denial even though it's scary 37:13.890 --> 37:18.090 being in denial just feels like it's keeping you safe it's actually a delusion you have in 37:18.090 --> 37:22.770 your own mind so like getting out of it allows you it actually empowers you to deal with 37:22.770 --> 37:26.290 reality which a lot of humans are doing right now just to leave on a more positive note 37:26.290 --> 37:29.870 but getting out of denial is the first step you have to look at what's actually happening 37:29.870 --> 37:34.370 before you can decide how to interact with reality but pretending as something is not it's 37:34.370 --> 37:38.830 like fighting with a blindfold on you know what I mean so take off the blindfold look at what your 37:38.830 --> 37:42.750 opponent is and then you actually will be empowered because you'll have all the information you need 37:42.750 --> 37:48.170 to make decisions and you're way more powerful than you think yeah more powerful than our enemy 37:48.170 --> 37:53.830 for sure especially when we come together so yeah because they're in the biggest denial of all 37:53.830 --> 37:57.650 because they're in denial of the nature of the universe and that they can go against god in 37:57.650 --> 38:03.490 reality and create their own reality so our enemies are actually the in the most denial of anybody 38:03.490 --> 38:08.890 so if we take in their denial we're playing on their field whereas if we get out of denial we're 38:08.890 --> 38:14.110 like so high above them because they are just like completely in denial themselves and and not 38:14.610 --> 38:19.490 what they're trying to do is not going to work anyways so it's yeah wow that was brilliant 38:19.490 --> 38:25.130 that's I think that's where we'll end it Jamie so thank you so much for this I think 38:25.130 --> 38:31.830 important talk on denial so until the next one then thanks Max