WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.440 I think that there has to be a demonstrated set of actions that the president and probably 00:08.440 --> 00:10.220 only the president can do. 00:10.940 --> 00:16.040 And some of those are things like saying, and I'll just use it, I'll use it as an example. 00:16.160 --> 00:18.780 I don't know what direction he's going to take yet when it comes to this. 00:19.340 --> 00:21.500 Let's just talk about the FBI as an example. 00:21.500 --> 00:31.720 A demonstrated action is to put chains on the doors on Friday afternoon of the inauguration 00:32.500 --> 00:38.880 and park security, even if you had to bring military, national guard, but martial service, 00:39.280 --> 00:44.380 park them around the building, all of the entrances, and nobody, and the president stands 00:44.380 --> 00:48.630 there, and the president of the United States, Trump, instead of going to his office in 00:48.630 --> 00:51.490 the White House, stops at the, because he's the president now. 00:51.570 --> 00:55.410 He stops at the Hoover building as they're coming down, you know, Pennsylvania Avenue, 00:55.850 --> 00:59.870 and he stands there and he holds a quick press conference and says, you see this building 00:59.870 --> 01:00.390 behind me? 01:00.450 --> 01:02.090 It's never going to ruin your life again. 01:02.650 --> 01:03.110 They're done. 01:03.350 --> 01:04.970 It's being closed as of now. 01:05.350 --> 01:06.390 I'm locking the doors. 01:06.950 --> 01:10.710 I mean, there's got to be a demonstrated action. 01:11.510 --> 01:14.970 We have a very special guest, General Michael Flynn. 01:14.970 --> 01:21.190 We were just talking before this started about this period of time we're in, and it's historical 01:21.190 --> 01:21.790 context. 01:22.370 --> 01:26.430 And, Mike, you brought up that this is, you brought up a couple of eras in history. 01:26.610 --> 01:31.650 It was about Alexander the Great, and in the legend of Alexander the Great and the 01:31.650 --> 01:36.970 Gordian Knot, it was this impossible knot that, you know, no one could untie, but 01:36.970 --> 01:41.230 the person who would would rule all of Asia, I think was the idea. 01:41.670 --> 01:46.350 And it seems to me that the administrative state in the U.S. today is the modern equivalent 01:46.350 --> 01:47.530 of the Gordian Knot. 01:47.990 --> 01:50.890 You can't get at it in any conventional way. 01:51.250 --> 01:55.090 So I wonder, the way Alexander got through it, obviously people probably know the stories, 01:55.210 --> 01:57.950 but it took bold and very unconventional action. 01:58.110 --> 02:03.950 I just wonder what is the bold and unconventional action to break through the administrative 02:03.950 --> 02:05.010 state Gordian Knot? 02:05.970 --> 02:06.450 Yeah. 02:06.730 --> 02:10.410 So, and first of all, thank you guys for having me on your show. 02:10.410 --> 02:14.470 And I know we talked about doing a longer show at some point in time, so I hope we're 02:14.470 --> 02:20.470 able to pull that off for both you guys as well as your audience, because I do, I do 02:20.470 --> 02:26.650 have immense, you know, confidence in your audience that, you know, because of the 02:26.650 --> 02:27.970 types of things that you guys cover. 02:28.210 --> 02:34.710 So, and I think that their, you know, their expectation is always, you know, more 02:34.710 --> 02:37.870 and more if, especially if they think it's an interesting subject. 02:38.410 --> 02:43.210 And this particular subject, I think, is fascinating because, you know, if you think 02:43.210 --> 02:48.530 about the great captains of history, you know, the great leaders of history that were, that 02:48.530 --> 02:49.810 we still talk about. 02:49.950 --> 02:53.890 I mean, you just mentioned, you know, Peter and you mentioned, and there's others throughout 02:53.890 --> 03:00.290 history that are memorable because they took extraordinary risk during extraordinary 03:00.290 --> 03:01.030 times. 03:01.530 --> 03:05.350 And some of those times they created, they created some of those conditions. 03:05.350 --> 03:08.790 And that's, that's a, that's a part of human history. 03:09.170 --> 03:13.770 I think where we are right now, where this administration is right now, and I'm talking 03:13.770 --> 03:18.550 about the, you know, I love, I think it was a Doug that said, you know, Bidenistas. 03:18.750 --> 03:19.910 I love that word, Bidenistas. 03:20.090 --> 03:21.250 I'm going to use that from now on. 03:21.650 --> 03:28.770 So, so this administration is being led by an individual who was declared to be 03:28.770 --> 03:33.350 generally incompetent by a special counsel by the name of her. 03:33.350 --> 03:34.010 Okay. 03:34.110 --> 03:36.030 So people can go back and look at that H you are. 03:36.270 --> 03:39.810 So, you know, his memory wasn't that great, right? 03:40.050 --> 03:42.250 Talking about the president of the United States of America. 03:42.710 --> 03:48.310 So we're, we're in a place right now where this, this will not be a peaceful 03:48.310 --> 03:49.390 transfer of power. 03:49.390 --> 03:53.430 This is not going to be a peaceful transfer of power, even though Biden said it, 03:53.490 --> 03:58.210 even though Obama said it to, to Trump back in 2016 and Biden just said it to 03:58.210 --> 03:59.210 Trump last Wednesday. 03:59.210 --> 04:03.790 Do not count for one second that this is going to be a peaceful transfer of 04:03.790 --> 04:06.430 power in the last 24 hours. 04:06.570 --> 04:13.730 There are reports of at least six of these high, very offensive capabilities. 04:13.950 --> 04:19.710 These ATACMS missiles that were fired from Ukraine soil into Russian soil. 04:20.010 --> 04:21.470 These are offensive weapons. 04:21.690 --> 04:27.010 And the only way that these weapons can be used is by applying a satellite 04:27.010 --> 04:31.170 capability for the targeting, the precision targeting that is necessary. 04:31.710 --> 04:35.510 That satellite capability comes from either NATO or directly from the United 04:35.510 --> 04:35.950 States. 04:35.950 --> 04:41.370 The only way to actually fire these weapons is by having people who are 04:41.370 --> 04:46.410 not, who are the likelihood of them being Ukrainian are very, is very low. 04:46.670 --> 04:53.570 So that's a, that's a tactical example of something that could immediately 04:53.570 --> 04:55.890 take us into World War three. 04:56.470 --> 05:00.230 Putin has already come out with a statement yesterday. 05:00.510 --> 05:04.650 He came out with a statement prior to this firing where essentially Putin is 05:04.650 --> 05:08.950 talking about the conditions will change if in fact these weapons systems 05:08.950 --> 05:14.810 are used, meaning that the strategic conditions will change overnight if 05:14.810 --> 05:15.750 these weapons are used. 05:15.890 --> 05:17.350 So they've been used. 05:17.810 --> 05:21.630 Now we have to wait and see what's going to happen in terms of a, of 05:21.630 --> 05:27.210 the give and take of warfare, physical warfare between Russia and the West. 05:27.430 --> 05:30.290 And I'll just say, you know, the West principally being the United States of 05:30.290 --> 05:30.670 America. 05:31.110 --> 05:36.770 So we have a, a president of the United States that probably should receive 05:36.770 --> 05:39.670 what we call here in the United States, the 25th Amendment. 05:40.430 --> 05:44.390 And Harris should automatically, she should immediately take that action. 05:44.990 --> 05:48.130 And I, I, and I'm not saying this, you know, just to say it, I'm 05:48.130 --> 05:49.250 saying it very precisely. 05:50.430 --> 05:56.070 And then, then it's up to, it's up to her to show whether or not she actually is 05:56.070 --> 06:00.990 competent enough to be able to handle this, you know, dramatic situation for 06:00.990 --> 06:06.270 a short period of time, the people inside of the Trump orbit. 06:06.790 --> 06:09.750 So what they need to start doing, and Trump can actually do this. 06:09.810 --> 06:13.930 And I, I mentioned this to you guys on the prior to coming on, you 06:13.930 --> 06:18.450 know, during the 26th period of time, there was a whole range of circumstances. 06:19.010 --> 06:22.430 And one of the things that I got caught up in, you know, and I, I was 06:22.430 --> 06:25.370 absolutely in my right to do it. 06:25.610 --> 06:29.870 I, I, I spoke with the Russian ambassador at the time because there 06:29.870 --> 06:33.510 was very high tension being created by the outgoing administration. 06:33.530 --> 06:36.710 In this case, Obama, you know, when he, you know, after he said, we're 06:36.710 --> 06:39.150 going to have the smooth transition of power, we did not. 06:39.150 --> 06:45.130 And I was able to deescalate a very dramatic situation because of my 06:45.130 --> 06:47.150 relationship with the Russian ambassador. 06:47.410 --> 06:50.490 And then, of course, him relaying it back to Putin and the response 06:50.490 --> 06:55.530 back was, was, okay, we're going to wait until Trump gets into office to 06:55.530 --> 07:00.670 be able to have a more, you know, a more reasonable conversation. 07:01.310 --> 07:06.390 Well, I think that President Trump, President-elect Trump, he may have 07:06.390 --> 07:10.090 to take things into his own hands because the American people just gave 07:10.090 --> 07:11.950 him a mandate for peace. 07:12.390 --> 07:15.370 One of the things that Trump said during the campaign was he wanted 07:15.370 --> 07:16.770 to end the killing in Ukraine. 07:17.830 --> 07:22.590 So, so Trump actually has a responsibility not to act as the 07:22.590 --> 07:26.330 president, but to act as a person who is going to be coming into 07:26.330 --> 07:31.110 office very soon and make that phone call to say, hey, look, you 07:31.110 --> 07:34.190 know, and that's not just to Putin, who he has a relationship with, 07:34.190 --> 07:37.610 but that's the G who he has a relationship with and other world 07:37.610 --> 07:41.950 leaders, Orban and others, even, even people in, in, in South 07:41.950 --> 07:47.030 America, you know, Millay, he got the, the, the president of 07:47.030 --> 07:47.870 Paraguay. 07:48.190 --> 07:50.350 I mean, you have other international leaders. 07:50.530 --> 07:53.390 And I think that we, that we still have the conference going 07:53.390 --> 07:55.030 on down in South America right now. 07:55.270 --> 07:59.530 So, so there's got to be sort of cool heads prevail time 07:59.530 --> 08:03.310 because what we're seeing is we're seeing decision making by 08:03.310 --> 08:08.470 the bureaucratic deep state in the, in Washington, DC, not, not 08:08.470 --> 08:11.050 the White House, Biden is incapable. 08:11.530 --> 08:14.350 It is undeniable he's incapable of making these types of decisions 08:14.350 --> 08:18.410 that we just, that we just heard, you know, we just saw occur 08:18.410 --> 08:22.530 in the last, frankly, from Sunday until the overnight 08:22.530 --> 08:24.010 firing of these eight Tacoms. 08:24.190 --> 08:27.590 So you have a bureaucratic deep state inside that are 08:27.590 --> 08:28.330 making decisions. 08:28.330 --> 08:31.410 And frankly, it's probably emanating from places like 08:31.410 --> 08:31.990 the CIA. 08:31.990 --> 08:36.050 So, and I, and I've said very publicly, guys, that, that I 08:36.050 --> 08:40.150 think that John Brennan is sort of the tactical pointy end of the 08:40.150 --> 08:42.570 spear here for this bureaucratic deep state. 08:42.670 --> 08:44.170 And he's not even in the government right now. 08:44.590 --> 08:49.170 So, so all that said, Matt Gaetz, Matt Gaetz is the 08:49.170 --> 08:51.810 designated incoming Attorney General for the United States 08:51.810 --> 08:54.310 of America for the Trump administration. 08:55.150 --> 08:58.310 Matt Gaetz will likely become the Attorney General and Trump 08:58.310 --> 09:02.210 has every authority, every constitutional privilege and 09:02.210 --> 09:05.550 up and right to be able to appoint Matt Gaetz in one of 09:05.550 --> 09:07.290 these, what they call recess type appointments. 09:08.030 --> 09:09.270 He can clearly do that. 09:09.370 --> 09:13.190 And Matt can actually sit in that position for close to, I 09:13.190 --> 09:16.910 mean, damn near, you know, 400, I think it's 420 days or 09:16.910 --> 09:17.630 something like that. 09:17.710 --> 09:19.750 There's a 215 day rule. 09:20.010 --> 09:22.070 And then there's an extension that he can stay there 09:22.070 --> 09:24.610 if the, if they, if the dummies in the Senate don't 09:24.610 --> 09:25.530 confirm him. 09:26.030 --> 09:28.670 So Matt Gaetz ought to put the word out to those in the 09:28.670 --> 09:32.790 Department of Justice to hold on all communications that had 09:32.790 --> 09:38.030 anything to do with this very provocative offensive event that 09:38.030 --> 09:42.910 the, that was promulgated by the West, whether it's NATO or 09:42.910 --> 09:45.250 whether it's the United States, but hold on all those 09:45.250 --> 09:45.750 communications. 09:45.950 --> 09:49.210 We want all communications with anybody in the United 09:49.210 --> 09:52.650 States government between, you know, this, you know, 09:52.650 --> 09:55.750 between point A and point B that have to do with this issue. 09:55.970 --> 09:58.050 And we want all the communications that go over to 09:58.050 --> 10:01.370 Ukraine, hold on to all of it, because if you don't, we're 10:01.370 --> 10:02.370 going to come after you. 10:02.650 --> 10:06.010 There has to be a consequence for people that are making 10:06.010 --> 10:09.350 these decisions that are not in the authority to do these 10:09.350 --> 10:09.650 things. 10:10.110 --> 10:13.810 The third thing, the third thing is Congress, Speaker, 10:13.950 --> 10:17.630 Speaker Johnson should immediately move to impeach Biden 10:17.630 --> 10:21.070 because, you know, the impeachment clause basically 10:21.070 --> 10:23.710 talks about high crimes and misdemeanors, right? 10:23.890 --> 10:26.450 These are, I mean, Trump was impeached because he said the 10:26.450 --> 10:28.550 2020 election was stolen. 10:29.670 --> 10:32.230 Trump was impeached because he had a perfectly good 10:32.230 --> 10:33.950 phone call to Ukraine. 10:34.290 --> 10:35.850 Twice they tried to impeach him. 10:36.290 --> 10:39.750 So this is a case of, and again, it's undeniable, 10:40.410 --> 10:44.150 provocative, offensive action, and then the Speaker 10:44.150 --> 10:46.390 Johnson has a responsibility to sit there with his 10:46.390 --> 10:49.450 leadership and say, you know, what do we do here? 10:49.450 --> 10:53.650 You know, and they should move to impeach immediately if the 10:53.650 --> 10:57.830 if the 25th Amendment isn't invoked by by Vice President 10:57.830 --> 10:58.210 Harris. 10:58.670 --> 11:02.510 And and that that move to impeach, you know, is a very 11:02.510 --> 11:07.370 real, you know, he is he is basically taking the 11:07.370 --> 11:08.270 nation to war. 11:08.310 --> 11:10.430 So when you think about what's the high crime, what's 11:10.430 --> 11:14.910 the misdemeanor, Biden is taking the nation potentially 11:14.910 --> 11:18.710 to World War Three without a declaration of war by the 11:18.710 --> 11:19.650 United States Congress. 11:19.830 --> 11:21.370 Now, people can go, well, we've been doing this for a 11:21.370 --> 11:23.350 long time, we've been we've been going overseas for a 11:23.350 --> 11:24.990 long time without a declaration of war. 11:25.250 --> 11:27.310 That doesn't mean that it's that it shouldn't happen. 11:27.910 --> 11:30.630 That that's that's in our that that is in our system 11:30.630 --> 11:31.930 that we're supposed to do that. 11:32.270 --> 11:35.390 So so the nation then, you know, takes responsibility 11:35.390 --> 11:37.370 for this and not just the president, right? 11:37.770 --> 11:41.330 So those are just a couple of things that I believe 11:41.990 --> 11:45.530 have to happen in this here and now going forward, 11:45.530 --> 11:49.530 going forward, President Trump is going to have his 11:49.530 --> 11:54.550 hands full because, you know, despite what what Elon 11:54.550 --> 11:58.450 and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, who are 11:58.450 --> 12:00.930 responsible for this, they call it the Doge, right? 12:01.050 --> 12:03.570 The Department of Government Efficiency, I guess. 12:04.430 --> 12:07.350 Number one, there will be, you know, there 12:07.350 --> 12:09.070 should be no new departments created. 12:09.450 --> 12:13.390 What they really have is they have a they have 12:13.390 --> 12:17.630 a directive by President Elect Trump to find 12:18.250 --> 12:20.790 places in our government that we like Millet did. 12:20.910 --> 12:22.910 Millet, I love his up, where up, where up, right? 12:23.050 --> 12:24.210 I mean, that was great. 12:24.350 --> 12:27.310 I mean, it was he did it kind of in a comedic way, 12:27.810 --> 12:31.190 but he did it in a very purposeful, precise way. 12:31.490 --> 12:34.510 You know, as the as the incoming leader, and he 12:34.510 --> 12:38.210 to me, as I've watched Argentina, you know, 12:38.250 --> 12:41.230 I've watched Argentina actually begin to show 12:41.230 --> 12:43.130 some some blossoming, right? 12:43.210 --> 12:45.550 Like like a dead plant, which was dead from 12:45.550 --> 12:47.030 communism for a hundred years. 12:47.310 --> 12:50.230 I've seen some blossoming in places like Argentina, 12:50.430 --> 12:52.950 like a new flower coming to come into life because, 12:53.230 --> 12:55.410 you know, he is he is, you know, taking 12:55.410 --> 12:58.310 capitalism to another level that can actually 12:58.310 --> 13:01.750 help a country economically, you know, 13:01.770 --> 13:04.450 and frankly, to a degree, morally ascend. 13:05.150 --> 13:07.790 And in this case, Trump is going to have 13:07.790 --> 13:10.790 his hands full to fill the coffers 13:11.350 --> 13:14.430 of the of the parts of the administration 13:14.990 --> 13:18.290 that do survive because there has to be 13:18.290 --> 13:21.610 a reckoning with parts of of our government, 13:21.750 --> 13:23.670 of our US government that must be eliminated. 13:23.850 --> 13:26.010 And I've been a very big proponent for years 13:26.010 --> 13:29.110 of getting rid of like the Department of Education. 13:29.570 --> 13:32.210 It's a wasteland, you know, that I'm sure 13:32.210 --> 13:35.090 that there's good, you know, the secretarial staff. 13:35.290 --> 13:36.970 And I'm sure that they're competent people. 13:36.970 --> 13:40.470 But when you get up into the into the the higher echelons 13:40.470 --> 13:43.450 of that organization, they've been ruining our education 13:43.450 --> 13:46.050 system in this country for, you know, basically 13:46.050 --> 13:49.710 going back to the late 70s, late 1970s, 13:49.710 --> 13:51.170 when Jimmy Carter stood it up. 13:51.690 --> 13:54.270 So so there's a lot that that is an example 13:54.270 --> 13:56.970 of the kinds of things that that an Elon 13:56.970 --> 13:58.750 and a Vivec are going to have to look at. 13:58.950 --> 14:00.950 Never mind, you know, those are whole cloth 14:00.950 --> 14:05.450 institutional structures that must be removed 14:05.450 --> 14:06.310 and taken down. 14:06.550 --> 14:09.750 But there's also going to have to be a some decisions 14:09.750 --> 14:12.450 about people and about budgets, right? 14:12.610 --> 14:15.270 And how how can you shift budgets 14:15.270 --> 14:17.610 from one budget line to another? 14:17.850 --> 14:19.690 And where do budgets exist? 14:19.890 --> 14:22.370 I mean, most people, Bobby Kennedy is learning 14:22.370 --> 14:25.110 and he knows Bobby Kennedy is learning that 14:25.110 --> 14:28.270 the the the health and human services 14:28.270 --> 14:32.270 actually has a budget almost twice the size 14:32.890 --> 14:34.850 of the Department of Defense, folks. 14:34.850 --> 14:39.230 OK, for your audience, I mean, that blows people away, right? 14:39.390 --> 14:42.890 I mean, you're talking in the trillions of dollars, a budget. 14:43.070 --> 14:45.550 So Bobby Kennedy is going to have to look at at some 14:45.550 --> 14:48.510 of these things, as well as like a Pete Hage set 14:48.510 --> 14:51.230 going into the Department of Defense, which has never 14:51.230 --> 14:52.090 passed an audit. 14:52.250 --> 14:53.890 I think what they just said, you know, a week ago, 14:54.150 --> 14:58.330 nine years or whatever, I know, I know inside 14:58.330 --> 15:01.810 of the Department of Defense and these are the again, 15:01.850 --> 15:03.470 these are things that the that the incoming 15:03.470 --> 15:05.950 administration is going to have to deal with because 15:06.770 --> 15:10.450 you either decide to keep to keep these things running 15:10.450 --> 15:13.570 or you stop them and you shut them down. 15:13.730 --> 15:15.070 You shut them down whole cloth. 15:15.470 --> 15:17.810 But inside the Department of Defense, there's 15:17.810 --> 15:20.850 sixteen different agencies and activities. 15:21.330 --> 15:23.670 I ran one of them, the Defense Intelligence Agency, 15:23.670 --> 15:26.710 a large one of the largest intel agencies in the world. 15:27.010 --> 15:30.390 But that was just one agency inside of a Department 15:30.390 --> 15:33.070 of Defense that has about sixteen of those. 15:33.070 --> 15:35.430 Now, some of those are smaller like our like our 15:35.430 --> 15:38.010 commissary agency that, you know, where people go 15:38.010 --> 15:40.850 and buy on military bases where they buy food, right? 15:41.410 --> 15:44.710 Or you have a logistics agency, which is actually 15:44.710 --> 15:47.930 a pretty, pretty large body of people. 15:48.250 --> 15:50.350 And no, and then you have all of the services. 15:50.530 --> 15:52.330 So this is just inside the Department of Defense. 15:52.730 --> 15:54.290 So there's going to have to be a reckoning 15:54.290 --> 15:56.170 because everybody goes, oh, we can't touch our military. 15:56.370 --> 15:58.370 We got to we got to give our military more money 15:58.370 --> 15:59.850 and we got to make them stronger. 16:00.270 --> 16:02.250 If you give the military one more dollar, 16:02.250 --> 16:03.770 it's not going to make them any stronger. 16:03.890 --> 16:06.150 If you give them another trillion dollars, 16:06.290 --> 16:07.570 it's not going to make them stronger. 16:07.950 --> 16:10.490 One of the most important things for Trump to do. 16:11.310 --> 16:13.490 And I know I'm going along in your question, 16:13.710 --> 16:16.370 but I, you know, I'm on a roll 16:16.370 --> 16:18.690 and I want to get these points across 16:19.130 --> 16:22.850 because your real question is, does Trump have the guts 16:22.850 --> 16:24.630 to do the things that need to be done, 16:24.690 --> 16:26.570 as Peter the Great did, or Alexander the Great, 16:26.610 --> 16:29.330 or any of these great captains in time, you know, 16:30.090 --> 16:32.430 does he have the guts to make the calls 16:32.430 --> 16:35.070 to be able to achieve the things he needs to achieve? 16:35.410 --> 16:37.090 Right. I believe that he does. 16:37.290 --> 16:39.250 I believe from what I have seen him say 16:39.250 --> 16:42.730 since the election that he is really looking 16:42.730 --> 16:45.390 hard at taking the actions that are necessary. 16:46.350 --> 16:49.530 And one of the things that has to change 16:50.130 --> 16:52.870 from the top down and certainly in all these different 16:52.870 --> 16:54.830 organizations is the culture. 16:55.490 --> 16:58.090 When you take and I've taken over a lot of organizations, 16:58.090 --> 17:02.050 I've led organizations from 30 to almost 30,000. 17:02.390 --> 17:04.150 So when you take over an organization, 17:04.410 --> 17:05.610 one of the things that you examine 17:05.610 --> 17:07.930 is the culture of the organization. 17:08.150 --> 17:09.970 Is it a discipline culture? 17:10.550 --> 17:12.010 Is it a war fighting culture? 17:12.770 --> 17:14.330 You know, is it a lazy culture? 17:14.750 --> 17:17.790 Are they do they not understand what the standards are? 17:18.010 --> 17:19.730 I mean, so the culture of the organization 17:19.730 --> 17:21.390 has everything to do with the attitude 17:21.390 --> 17:25.490 and the way that an organization functions and operates. 17:25.490 --> 17:28.790 Right. And so all of our all of our 17:29.630 --> 17:34.010 all of our institutions right now inside of the government 17:34.010 --> 17:37.930 have this woke mentality, this woke culture. 17:38.190 --> 17:42.110 And it has it was it was basically, you know, 17:42.230 --> 17:46.170 intubated inside of the government by Obama. 17:46.790 --> 17:50.610 Trump had did, you know, was really not able to change it 17:50.610 --> 17:52.950 as much as I think he would have liked to have changed it. 17:52.950 --> 17:57.310 And it and it resulted in him, you know, not getting elected in 2020. 17:57.450 --> 17:58.250 And we can argue that. 17:58.390 --> 18:01.530 And then for four years being persecuted by the court systems, 18:01.530 --> 18:07.030 but coming back like a, you know, like a I mean, like like a like a Napoleon 18:07.030 --> 18:08.610 or like a Caesar, right? 18:08.670 --> 18:11.670 He came back and he's going to stand the test of time 18:11.670 --> 18:14.090 and talk about a historic figure. 18:14.450 --> 18:18.630 But does he have the the necessary courage to be able to stand there 18:18.630 --> 18:22.370 and say, OK, I understand forgiveness. 18:22.950 --> 18:28.250 But I also understand accountability and I believe now I'm speaking for Mike Flynn. 18:28.650 --> 18:33.390 I believe that accountability must occur because without accountability, 18:34.070 --> 18:36.870 four years from now or 10 years from now, 18:36.950 --> 18:40.190 people will attempt the same things over and over and over. 18:40.330 --> 18:42.870 And they'll continue to get away with it as long as they see 18:42.870 --> 18:44.430 that no one is held accountable. 18:44.650 --> 18:48.130 And I'm not talking about some little minion, you know, low level, 18:48.630 --> 18:50.650 you know, government bureaucrat. 18:50.650 --> 18:53.830 I'm talking about people at the highest levels of our, you know, 18:53.890 --> 18:58.590 that have that have been in charge of very, very high levels of our government. 18:58.870 --> 19:01.230 And that also includes up and up to and including 19:01.230 --> 19:04.910 the executive office of the president of the United States of America. 19:05.330 --> 19:10.170 So accountability has to happen as reform is occurring. 19:10.550 --> 19:13.690 And that's where I want to see Trump's inner strength 19:14.270 --> 19:17.270 come out of him because the people around him, 19:17.270 --> 19:19.790 they're going to make decisions about, you know, 19:19.790 --> 19:22.270 which direction to move a new, you know, whatever organization 19:22.270 --> 19:26.810 they're responsible for, a Hague Seth or a Tulsi Gabbard or a or a Matt Gates. 19:27.230 --> 19:29.090 They got to move these organizations forward. 19:29.490 --> 19:31.750 But they're, you know, do they have the authority? 19:31.930 --> 19:34.870 I don't want them to look behind, to look over their shoulders 19:34.870 --> 19:39.890 and wonder if Trump is, you know, is, you know, waiting to see what they do. 19:40.170 --> 19:43.690 I want Trump to say, here's what I want you to do. 19:43.770 --> 19:45.350 Here's what I expect you to achieve. 19:45.710 --> 19:48.070 If you need my help, you come back and you let me know. 19:48.070 --> 19:50.510 But I expect you to do the following things and, man, 19:51.190 --> 19:55.050 you know, you give me that kind of guidance and, you know, Katie bar the door 19:55.050 --> 19:58.930 and you'll have a very effective organization in a relatively short period of time. 19:59.070 --> 20:03.410 So I'll pause there because that was a long answer. 20:03.710 --> 20:08.010 You know, speaking of that, I really loved your comment on X 20:08.010 --> 20:14.630 a while ago where there was a very smarmy and slick 20:14.630 --> 20:19.690 female DOD executive who was being interviewed by John Stewart. 20:20.110 --> 20:25.570 And it was amazing how she dodged and slithered around the question that he asked. 20:26.310 --> 20:30.650 And I think this is typical of the bureaucracies that we have in the government. 20:30.810 --> 20:34.010 But do you think that it could possibly be changed? 20:34.110 --> 20:39.210 Because let's take Johnson, who impresses me, frankly, is something of a nothing nobody. 20:41.990 --> 20:47.410 Wouldn't you say having run one of these 17 praetorian agencies in the government 20:47.990 --> 20:55.070 that they have or could have so much dirt on him that he wouldn't dare do anything 20:55.070 --> 20:59.930 to change things or they would unleash the hounds of hell on him? 21:00.250 --> 21:02.070 Now, isn't that the way it's going to work? 21:02.790 --> 21:05.170 Yeah, and it does work like that in Washington, D.C. 21:05.190 --> 21:07.190 And it works like that when it comes to anybody 21:07.190 --> 21:11.610 that's going to that's been hanging around Washington and floating back and forth 21:11.610 --> 21:14.570 in between administrations, whether they stay there and, you know, 21:14.590 --> 21:19.170 in some K Street lobby group or law firm, and then they go back into the Democrat 21:19.170 --> 21:23.910 regime or the Republican regime, definitely throughout the legislative branches, 21:24.070 --> 21:27.230 all members of Congress, you know, the House and the Senate 21:27.230 --> 21:31.670 and then all judges fall into fall into this into this trap. 21:31.950 --> 21:36.890 So the person that you mentioned that I that I highlighted the other day 21:36.890 --> 21:40.890 was the deputy secretary of defense, the number two persons. 21:41.490 --> 21:43.010 She she was the number two. 21:43.030 --> 21:46.930 She is the number two person in the Department of Defense, you know, 21:46.970 --> 21:51.810 of a trillion dollar organization that has not been able to pass audits for years. 21:52.030 --> 21:57.470 And she she basically her response showed the American people 21:58.190 --> 22:03.450 that she was so out of touch with with what the American people expect. 22:04.010 --> 22:09.370 For example, I have been audited twice in my in my life by the IRS 22:09.850 --> 22:12.050 while I was serving in the military, actually. 22:12.210 --> 22:15.330 And then I've gone through other audits in my in my civilian capacity 22:15.330 --> 22:18.470 now running different organizations because because I'm a conservative. 22:18.950 --> 22:22.170 So when I go through an audit, if I don't pass the audit, 22:22.310 --> 22:25.510 the IRS comes in and charges me some additional monies 22:25.510 --> 22:27.930 or maybe they come maybe they'll come after me for other reasons. 22:28.350 --> 22:32.010 But yet the Department of Defense has not been able to pass an audit. 22:32.010 --> 22:33.910 And I think it's like nine years or something like that. 22:33.950 --> 22:35.570 It's an incredible amount of time. 22:36.030 --> 22:37.010 Well, we all remember. 22:37.230 --> 22:41.650 We all remember when Rumsfeld said his two point three billion, right? 22:41.870 --> 22:44.150 No, trillion dollars that we can't track. 22:44.490 --> 22:48.190 And that was a long time ago. I'm sure it's I'm sure it's the same thing. 22:48.390 --> 22:51.350 It's he said that on the 10th of September of 2001, 22:51.470 --> 22:53.890 the day before the Twin Towers were hit, by the way. 22:54.030 --> 22:55.770 So, you know, timing is everything. 22:56.070 --> 23:00.410 So I but her attitude is is the attitude 23:00.410 --> 23:03.670 that we are dealing with when I talk about culture 23:03.670 --> 23:06.810 and culture in these organizations in Washington, D.C. 23:07.510 --> 23:12.890 That that culture, that attitude has to be like like like a metastasized 23:12.890 --> 23:14.530 answer of the throat. 23:15.210 --> 23:21.190 It's got to be excised out and then a purification, you know, has 23:21.190 --> 23:25.250 in these, you know, the deep state people in the media, the big media, 23:25.310 --> 23:26.710 they got they're going to go crazy. 23:26.850 --> 23:28.770 They hear me say to use the word purification. 23:28.770 --> 23:33.470 Now, the purification, the cleansing of what we must do 23:33.470 --> 23:35.450 to get rid of this attitude. 23:35.590 --> 23:36.950 We have to get rid of this attitude. 23:37.250 --> 23:41.330 And I can tell you from the uniform military side of things, 23:41.510 --> 23:44.310 that's actually not that difficult to do. 23:44.490 --> 23:47.810 It's going to take some time, but it's not that difficult to do 23:47.810 --> 23:51.590 on the civilian side of those that are appointed officials inside 23:51.590 --> 23:54.210 of the executive branch of the government, whether it's Department 23:54.210 --> 23:57.310 of Defense or Department of Commerce or Department of Agriculture. 23:57.850 --> 24:04.290 This attitude of wokeness, this attitude of mediocrity has got to be eliminated. 24:04.770 --> 24:07.010 And we don't need that many people in the government. 24:07.230 --> 24:12.410 The federal government doesn't I am so looking forward to how 24:12.410 --> 24:18.490 President Trump deals with taxes, right, federal taxes, because he's 24:18.490 --> 24:22.850 talked about different ideas about eliminating federal taxes. 24:23.350 --> 24:28.610 That and then, you know, going with a sort of a tariff based payment system, 24:28.790 --> 24:31.530 right, we'll see we'll see what he's able to achieve. 24:31.630 --> 24:35.990 And I know he's he's looking at some really smart people to bring in 24:36.450 --> 24:40.710 to help him, you know, work through that, you know, particularly a treasury. 24:40.950 --> 24:44.310 And I think commerce is another big one that does require somebody 24:44.310 --> 24:48.490 that that has that kind of a mind when you say that commerce is another 24:48.490 --> 24:53.990 agency that should be abolished, frankly, just education, which everybody's 24:53.990 --> 24:59.090 talking about, but the Department of Agriculture, which employs 100,000 24:59.090 --> 25:01.090 people to make farmers lives miserable. 25:01.630 --> 25:04.630 But the point I'd make, and I don't know if you agree with this or not, 25:05.050 --> 25:09.370 it's that replacing the terrible people that are there now, these 25:09.370 --> 25:13.350 Jacobins, actually the control Washington and everything in the beltway 25:13.350 --> 25:15.490 and replacing them with good people. 25:15.490 --> 25:20.290 I think that's actually kind of counterproductive and firing people. 25:20.650 --> 25:23.690 Why? It's like trimming a noxious plant. 25:24.330 --> 25:26.510 When you trim it, it just grows back stronger. 25:26.710 --> 25:31.330 You've got to pull it up by the roots and so Agent Orange where grew. 25:31.830 --> 25:33.710 And I don't know if they're going to be able to do that. 25:33.850 --> 25:35.170 Do you think we'll be able to do that? 25:35.730 --> 25:40.550 Yeah, I mean, that's the that's the big $64,000 question. 25:40.550 --> 25:45.530 And I think that I think that there has to be a demonstrated 25:47.350 --> 25:53.710 set of actions that the president and probably only the president can do. 25:54.410 --> 25:58.350 And some of those are things like saying, and I'll just use it. 25:58.530 --> 25:59.530 I'll use it as an example. 25:59.650 --> 26:02.270 I don't know what direction he's going to take yet when it comes to this. 26:02.730 --> 26:04.970 Let's just talk about the FBI as an example. 26:05.110 --> 26:07.350 I mean, we've mentioned the Department of Education and Trump has already 26:07.350 --> 26:13.390 talked about that, but a demonstration of action to remove something. 26:13.590 --> 26:16.270 I mean, literally to pull it right out of the ground by the roots, right? 26:16.670 --> 26:20.410 Not like you say, getting in there and trim the dead branches off of it. 26:20.570 --> 26:23.890 And in all, you know, in four years from now or 10 years from now, 26:23.910 --> 26:26.390 it comes back and it's and it's worse, right? 26:27.510 --> 26:33.490 To go there, a demonstrated action is to put to put chains on the doors, 26:34.170 --> 26:42.130 you know, on Friday afternoon of the of the inauguration and and park security, 26:42.210 --> 26:46.030 even if you had to bring military, National Guard, but but Marshall service, 26:46.290 --> 26:50.110 park them around the building, all of the entrances and nobody 26:50.110 --> 26:51.990 and the president stands there. 26:52.130 --> 26:55.250 So in the president of the United States, Trump, instead of going to his 26:55.250 --> 26:58.410 office in the White House, stops at the because he's the president. 26:58.570 --> 27:01.550 Now he stops at the Hoover building as they're coming down, you know, 27:01.550 --> 27:05.470 Pennsylvania Avenue and he stands there and he holds a quick press conference 27:05.470 --> 27:09.270 and says, you see this building behind me, it's never going to ruin your life again. 27:09.730 --> 27:12.130 They're done. It's being closed as of now. 27:12.510 --> 27:15.030 I'm locking the doors, you know, whatever, right? 27:15.150 --> 27:18.910 I mean, there's got to be a a demonstrated action. 27:19.430 --> 27:23.410 And like I said, back to I think it was Matt's question earlier about, 27:24.130 --> 27:27.110 you know, are we willing to take these steps, right? 27:27.250 --> 27:30.110 I mean, you had great time. 27:30.110 --> 27:34.090 You had these these momentous times in history and then these great 27:34.090 --> 27:38.970 captains rose to those momentous times and they change the world. 27:39.110 --> 27:40.890 They actually change the direction of the world. 27:41.170 --> 27:45.930 If Trump doesn't take these types of actions, I'm not sure if we're going 27:45.930 --> 27:50.630 to change the direction, you know, and course correct us back to a time 27:50.630 --> 27:53.250 that I talk about going backwards in time. 27:53.350 --> 27:58.150 I'm talking about to a place where we can live on a planet 27:58.150 --> 28:02.970 where the United States of America continues to thrive and be a humble 28:02.970 --> 28:11.130 nation, but be a nation of innovators, of wealth producers, of idea makers and creators. 28:11.690 --> 28:15.230 I mean, that's what the United States is very capable of still doing 28:15.230 --> 28:18.490 with the right leadership and the right culture, the right attitude. 28:18.770 --> 28:21.490 And if Trump doesn't take these kinds of extraordinary actions, 28:21.870 --> 28:26.330 I'm afraid that what will happen is the bureaucracy like they typically do. 28:26.330 --> 28:27.350 And I know because they did this. 28:27.390 --> 28:29.910 They tried to do this with me and in some cases they succeeded. 28:30.390 --> 28:35.350 You would tell somebody you'd go, OK, I want your your part of the agency. 28:35.910 --> 28:36.810 I want it eliminated. 28:37.090 --> 28:39.570 Right. And I wanted it eliminated by Monday. 28:40.250 --> 28:42.970 And so what they would do is they would come back to you on Monday 28:42.970 --> 28:44.910 with a white paper like this. 28:45.010 --> 28:48.230 They come back to the white paper and all the reasons why they can't do it. 28:48.310 --> 28:50.350 And you're like, well, that's not what I asked you. 28:50.350 --> 28:52.850 But I don't want the white paper. I want it. I want the door shut. 28:53.530 --> 28:55.470 So now I got to go do it myself. 28:55.470 --> 28:59.050 And I would sit there and I did this a couple to a couple of of elements 28:59.050 --> 29:02.250 within the Defense Intelligence Agency to this day. 29:02.250 --> 29:04.850 And I'll, you know, a point of pride for me. 29:04.930 --> 29:07.590 And I don't normally talk like this. 29:08.450 --> 29:12.590 But I reformed that agency into centers, what's called centers 29:12.590 --> 29:17.330 to be more downward looking to support war fighting 29:18.770 --> 29:20.230 commands out in the battlefield. 29:20.470 --> 29:22.790 Right. And that was at a time when we were still was 2012. 29:22.830 --> 29:23.610 We were still at war. 29:24.070 --> 29:28.570 And those though that center concept has stayed in place 29:29.070 --> 29:34.410 till this day because it is a it is a downward focused link linkage 29:34.910 --> 29:38.290 to the people that that we were supposed to support 29:38.290 --> 29:41.950 instead of this upward looking organization that I got 29:41.950 --> 29:46.490 that was kissing the rear end of the CIA and the White House and the DNI. 29:46.770 --> 29:48.690 Right. I didn't care about that. 29:48.770 --> 29:52.030 What I cared about was we had elements in our military 29:52.030 --> 29:53.910 and in our country that were at war. 29:54.350 --> 29:57.810 We had great capabilities and I wanted to focus down and in. 29:58.470 --> 30:01.630 And until this day, those that structure still exists. 30:02.070 --> 30:04.750 The attitude is not quite there, but the structure exists 30:04.750 --> 30:08.610 because how you when you when you recreate a government structure, 30:08.690 --> 30:09.890 you have to do it two ways. 30:09.950 --> 30:12.510 It's not just, you know, a good idea that you just, you know, 30:12.530 --> 30:14.970 you move some desks around a couple of line and block. 30:15.270 --> 30:18.710 You've got to change the human resources system, which I did. 30:19.190 --> 30:22.710 And I made it more more of an upward mobility type thing 30:22.710 --> 30:25.510 instead of a lot of people at the top and very few at the bottom. 30:25.610 --> 30:30.070 And then you also got to look at the the budgetary processes 30:30.630 --> 30:34.750 to move monies from one line over to another and then make it permanent. 30:35.090 --> 30:37.090 And those are two ways to do that. 30:37.490 --> 30:41.830 And and frankly, I would have shut down half of DIA if I could. 30:42.090 --> 30:45.770 But, you know, you're at the time, I'm not I'm not in a position where, 30:45.770 --> 30:49.770 you know, you got the secretary of defense, Panetta and the director 30:49.770 --> 30:53.150 of national intelligence, Clapper, you know, and they were like, 30:53.190 --> 30:54.810 no, we can't do that. We're not going to do that. 30:54.810 --> 30:57.190 But you do what you think you need to do. 30:57.290 --> 30:58.210 And they allowed me to do it. 30:58.330 --> 31:00.750 They gave me great flexibility to do the things I needed to do. 31:01.190 --> 31:05.390 But now we're talking about, you know, the entire governmental level 31:05.390 --> 31:10.210 as well as some institutions that do tie into the government, 31:10.210 --> 31:15.070 meaning like the banking institution, educational institutions, 31:15.070 --> 31:19.250 right, the, you know, colleges and universities that get I can imagine. 31:19.330 --> 31:23.350 I can imagine how hard it would be, because you remember that ex-football 31:23.350 --> 31:28.650 player, Jack Kemp, who was appointed head of HUD during the Reagan years. 31:29.410 --> 31:31.850 And his mandate was to. 31:32.710 --> 31:33.850 Cut it back. 31:35.370 --> 31:38.310 Actually eliminated, which had been done. 31:38.630 --> 31:43.330 But to show how competent he was and how strong and he actually 31:43.330 --> 31:47.650 doubled the size of the damned agency right in front of everybody's eyes. 31:48.310 --> 31:49.530 So this is a real danger. 31:50.010 --> 31:55.130 I mean, the DIA, which you used to run, used to run, 31:55.810 --> 31:58.490 it's one of 17 intelligence agencies. 31:59.310 --> 32:02.990 Do we need 17 intelligence agencies? 32:03.230 --> 32:05.730 Because you're an intelligence guy. 32:06.090 --> 32:09.550 And no, and no, so let me jump because I'm going to run out of time here 32:09.550 --> 32:12.530 and I appreciate it. And like we talked about earlier, you know, 32:12.530 --> 32:16.570 maybe we maybe we figure out a way to get me down there for a longer form format. 32:16.950 --> 32:24.510 So in the one, just one of the issues with 17 agencies is every 32:24.510 --> 32:28.470 single one of them has their own communications system. 32:28.910 --> 32:32.330 And every single one of those communication systems are multi 32:32.330 --> 32:34.310 billion dollar systems. 32:34.830 --> 32:37.130 I mean, you're talking about everything, the box, you know, 32:37.170 --> 32:40.910 the box itself, the wiring, the naming conventions, 32:40.910 --> 32:43.970 how they function, what they're tied into. 32:44.350 --> 32:45.810 It is utter insanity. 32:46.270 --> 32:51.710 And I can tell you that some of those agencies have multiple communications inside. 32:52.610 --> 32:56.010 So that's so, so, yeah, so do you need 17? 32:56.250 --> 32:57.790 No, you do not need 17. 32:58.050 --> 33:03.150 Do you need 17 or or at least 20, maybe 25 different communication systems 33:03.150 --> 33:05.450 that are that are probably on average. 33:05.850 --> 33:09.150 Every single one of them is probably around somewhere between one 33:09.150 --> 33:13.330 to four billion dollars at cost, OK, average per. 33:14.010 --> 33:20.170 So, I mean, the insanity of what we allowed from from 9 11, 33:20.530 --> 33:24.030 the Patriot Act, the growth of the intelligence community. 33:24.330 --> 33:30.030 And yet and yet we the the the the enemies around the world 33:30.030 --> 33:31.450 were actually diminishing. 33:32.330 --> 33:35.770 They were they were really diminishing at the time. 33:35.770 --> 33:39.930 And what we have done is we we've grown and become 33:39.930 --> 33:43.950 we've essentially grown into a very incompetent 33:43.950 --> 33:47.530 intelligence community, extremely incompetent intelligence community. 33:47.810 --> 33:51.770 We have gotten almost nothing right at the strategic level. 33:52.370 --> 33:54.330 Nothing. Nothing. You're right. Absolutely nothing. 33:54.930 --> 33:57.350 Yeah. I mean, there's tactical successes here and there. 33:57.430 --> 34:01.110 But at the strategic level, we've gotten nothing right. 34:01.610 --> 34:06.230 And so, yeah, so that there has to be extraordinary reform. 34:06.510 --> 34:10.790 And this is something that I know Tulsi Gabbard, 34:11.510 --> 34:13.690 you know, it's and it's going to be it's going to be difficult. 34:13.870 --> 34:18.470 She's going to have to to really consider how, you know, 34:18.490 --> 34:22.110 because you can't just go in the in the in the high offices 34:22.110 --> 34:24.370 of the of the Director of National Intelligence, 34:24.490 --> 34:26.830 which I spent a year there as an assistant director. 34:27.270 --> 34:30.430 And you can't just go up there and have a nice office 34:30.430 --> 34:33.550 and look out your window and, you know, and feel good about yourself. 34:33.890 --> 34:38.350 No, this is this is really hard work and the hard work I know has already begun. 34:38.590 --> 34:41.670 But but there is going to have to be reform. 34:42.010 --> 34:45.090 And like I said about President Trump, you know, 34:45.350 --> 34:49.550 to for him to close the FBI down, the American people would be cheering. 34:50.050 --> 34:54.570 They'll you'll hear the cheers from the American people if he closes the FBI down. 34:54.830 --> 34:57.190 And there's a lot of second order effects. 34:57.190 --> 34:58.450 I mean, I think it was G.K. 34:59.210 --> 35:02.390 Chastritson said, you know, be careful when you take offense down 35:02.390 --> 35:05.450 because it was put up, you know, it was the reason why it was put up in the first place. 35:05.650 --> 35:08.690 So you just got to understand the consequences when you do something. 35:09.010 --> 35:13.530 And then you have to accept those consequences back to back to the earlier question about, 35:13.750 --> 35:17.610 you know, does, you know, does Trump does he does? 35:17.730 --> 35:20.930 He got the courage, he have the courage to do the things that are necessary. 35:21.730 --> 35:24.590 Sitting here today, I believe he does, I believe he does. 35:24.590 --> 35:29.010 But there is going to be so much inertia directed against him 35:29.010 --> 35:30.990 to keep him from doing what is necessary. 35:31.550 --> 35:34.770 Everybody around even a lot of a lot of the Republicans, 35:35.110 --> 35:37.890 a lot of the establishment are going to tell him, oh, you can't do this. 35:37.990 --> 35:38.550 You can't do that. 35:38.750 --> 35:43.490 And frankly, it's the first person that comes to you that says you can't do something. 35:44.050 --> 35:45.730 They're they're on the other side. 35:45.830 --> 35:48.910 You know, I I I hesitate to say they're your enemy, 35:48.910 --> 35:50.890 but damn, they're close to being your enemy. 35:51.130 --> 35:53.290 So understand that if somebody comes to you and says, 35:53.290 --> 35:56.850 you Mr. President, you really can't do this and they don't have a damn good reason why, 35:57.370 --> 35:59.170 you know, we need them. 35:59.650 --> 36:01.990 OK, now you go back and you follow the money trail. 36:02.470 --> 36:03.990 You go back and you follow the money trail. 36:04.090 --> 36:05.870 And that's those are the people to me. 36:06.250 --> 36:09.470 And that's why, you know, I like I like Matt Gates's attitude. 36:09.690 --> 36:13.150 You know, I mean, there there's going to have to be lawfully done 36:14.030 --> 36:16.410 investigations, but they have to be done quickly. 36:16.690 --> 36:20.370 And I will tell you, I will tell you, you know, because I I've been, 36:20.390 --> 36:22.850 you know, accused of knowing where the bodies are buried. 36:22.850 --> 36:28.170 Right. So one of part of that accusation of knowing where the bodies are buried 36:28.170 --> 36:34.470 is knowing which place to look for the the the communications 36:34.470 --> 36:37.370 that I know were had between people. 36:37.710 --> 36:41.230 And some of those have to do with budgeting authorities 36:41.930 --> 36:46.050 that, yes, they come from Congress, but there's probably 36:46.900 --> 36:49.330 less than this many people, less than a handful 36:49.330 --> 36:52.130 that really know anything about those budgets. 36:52.130 --> 36:56.890 And I'm talking about budgets that are that are that are in the in the 36:57.410 --> 37:01.810 hundreds of billions of dollars level that nobody pays any attention to. 37:02.110 --> 37:06.030 OK, so that I know that I know for a fact. 37:06.170 --> 37:08.830 And those are the things that it's obvious. 37:09.170 --> 37:14.810 And the way you're talking, Mike, it's music to our ears. 37:15.290 --> 37:18.990 It seems to me the US government at this point is like a hundred story 37:18.990 --> 37:22.870 building about to collapse and you can either let it collapse randomly 37:22.870 --> 37:26.450 and unpredictably or you can have a controlled demolition of it. 37:26.690 --> 37:28.110 And it's going to be one or the other. 37:28.250 --> 37:29.450 I'm for the controlled demolition. 37:29.790 --> 37:33.710 Now, is there any chance that you'll be able 37:33.710 --> 37:36.590 to join this party with the new Trump administration? 37:37.910 --> 37:39.170 Yeah, there's a chance. 37:41.070 --> 37:46.490 But it's not necessarily, you know, I think we're on 37:46.490 --> 37:50.490 that right now with everybody is in a good place. 37:51.930 --> 37:54.450 And I definitely will help. 37:55.510 --> 38:01.290 I I I understand the direction and the strategy that Trump is taking. 38:01.850 --> 38:07.530 And I agree with it, you know, not not necessarily every single piece of it. 38:07.770 --> 38:13.990 But but the the more important thing right now is the is to kind of what I call 38:13.990 --> 38:18.130 in it's a military term, you organize for combat, right? 38:18.350 --> 38:22.970 You and actually the more specific phrase is you task organize for combat. 38:23.450 --> 38:27.510 And when you task organize for combat, that means that you go and look at 38:27.510 --> 38:29.990 the people that you're going to need on your team. 38:30.330 --> 38:33.070 And then you look at the resources that you're going to have to use 38:33.070 --> 38:36.710 immediately, because once you make contact with the enemy 38:36.710 --> 38:39.190 and believe me, they are already engaged. 38:39.610 --> 38:43.050 But once you make even greater contact with the enemy, once you're in 38:43.050 --> 38:47.570 you once you're at the line of departure, which is really the day 38:47.570 --> 38:51.350 he takes the oath of office, if it's a smooth transition of power, 38:51.510 --> 38:54.290 then war will have to be waged. 38:54.690 --> 38:58.430 And and I say that metaphorically for the crazy mainstream media 38:58.430 --> 39:00.470 that will take it and say, Flynn wants to go to war. 39:00.770 --> 39:06.090 No, the metaphor for saying there is going to be great difficulties 39:06.090 --> 39:11.410 once the line of departure is crossed by the by this new Trump administration. 39:11.960 --> 39:16.310 Because right now, trying to get anything out of your counterparts 39:16.700 --> 39:21.650 in the various agencies, activities, departments and commissions is near is damn 39:21.650 --> 39:26.370 near impossible. And and Biden just sat with Trump last Wednesday 39:26.370 --> 39:28.350 and told him smooth transition of power. 39:28.350 --> 39:33.770 And we're firing offensive provocative weapons into Russia today. 39:34.170 --> 39:36.510 So those two don't connect. 39:36.810 --> 39:39.750 That is undeniable that these things have occurred. 39:39.750 --> 39:41.630 So these are not made up things. 39:42.330 --> 39:45.190 So it's it's kind of like, OK, so where are we at? 39:45.310 --> 39:50.030 I mean, I would if I were, you know, and I said this last night to some, you know, 39:50.150 --> 39:53.590 to some folks, Trump ought to be calling up Joe Biden going, hey, Joe, 39:53.670 --> 39:57.230 are you all there? Because, you know, if you're not and you need to, 39:57.250 --> 39:59.550 you know, we need to do something else here, something is not going. 40:00.110 --> 40:02.150 You know, Putin has got to. 40:04.250 --> 40:08.450 He has got to take some responsibility. 40:08.450 --> 40:11.970 You know, for his own sovereignty, his own protection. 40:12.210 --> 40:15.530 I mean, you know, it's not it's not the Kremlin that provoked this. 40:15.670 --> 40:17.830 It's the White House. You're quite correct. 40:18.050 --> 40:20.610 And nobody nobody says that these days. You're absolutely right. 40:20.930 --> 40:25.350 But if if Biden stepped down or was impeached, 40:25.710 --> 40:28.290 he'd be replaced by Kamala. 40:28.770 --> 40:32.510 And yeah, she's even more dangerous. OK, that's OK. 40:32.670 --> 40:34.030 That's OK for a period of time. 40:34.290 --> 40:37.930 So let's let's let's give her that and see what she's willing to do. 40:37.930 --> 40:39.030 See what she's capable of. 40:39.030 --> 40:40.910 But she's she's demonstrably 40:41.590 --> 40:45.270 unintelligent and unknowledgeable and philosophically 40:45.890 --> 40:47.990 a communist, quite frankly. Right. 40:48.070 --> 40:53.530 So I'm afraid we'd be stepping from the frying pan into the fire. 40:53.790 --> 40:56.330 This is the next two months is going to be dangerous. 40:56.590 --> 40:59.430 Don't you think? Well, and that's why I said that, you know, 40:59.610 --> 41:01.670 that Congress needs to impeach as well. 41:02.090 --> 41:03.110 I mean, you can't have. 41:03.290 --> 41:07.050 So number one, this is why the 25th Amendment is so important right now. 41:07.050 --> 41:09.370 And I understand that you're right about Kamala Harris. 41:10.310 --> 41:13.170 But but we haven't we have an incompetent person 41:13.170 --> 41:17.890 with his with his responsibility on the on the nuclear football. 41:18.130 --> 41:19.250 Right. I mean, this is crazy. 41:19.710 --> 41:20.910 So we can't have that. 41:21.450 --> 41:25.650 I'm not going to say that Kamala is much, you know, much better. 41:25.990 --> 41:30.770 But she's she is at least at a level of competency that 41:31.290 --> 41:35.090 that, you know, she's she would be and she's elected, 41:35.210 --> 41:36.550 I guess, is the other part of this. 41:36.550 --> 41:40.290 It's I mean, I'm having a real difficult time saying that Kamala would be better. 41:40.370 --> 41:41.110 She wouldn't be better. 41:41.270 --> 41:45.890 But but we cannot have an incompetent person in the White House right now. 41:46.030 --> 41:51.370 But this is why my second thing was was we got to we have to impeach immediately. 41:51.710 --> 41:56.010 I mean, these people this is this is such a dangerous 41:57.250 --> 42:04.010 moment in history and and and I want people direct to remember, OK, 42:04.010 --> 42:09.130 because history in the last hundred years, so this is twenty twenty four, 42:10.170 --> 42:14.970 you know, the Bolshevik Revolution from from 1924, essentially, 42:15.110 --> 42:17.470 that early 1920s, a hundred year period of time, 42:17.630 --> 42:21.490 you look at all of the wars that we were involved in, 42:21.590 --> 42:26.250 all of the people that were killed unnecessarily in many, many cases. 42:26.570 --> 42:29.650 Right. I mean, most cases, in fact, damn, they're all cases. 42:29.930 --> 42:32.570 I always tell people I'm not I'm not anti war. 42:32.570 --> 42:33.850 I'm anti stupid war. 42:34.350 --> 42:36.950 And most of them, 99 percent of them have been stupid. 42:37.530 --> 42:40.230 And but that's only in the last hundred years. 42:40.390 --> 42:41.930 That's not that long of a period of time. 42:42.170 --> 42:47.210 So what is that what is happening now could take us into another evolution 42:47.210 --> 42:50.290 of warfare that is much different. 42:50.490 --> 42:51.430 And we're already in it. 42:51.590 --> 42:55.770 You know, I say that we're in this we're in this fifth generation warfare 42:56.410 --> 43:01.330 that is that has components of irregularness and and and conventional 43:01.930 --> 43:06.270 and information and, you know, and physical. 43:06.830 --> 43:10.210 I mean, these these different dimensions that we are currently involved in. 43:10.470 --> 43:16.130 But what if it grows, if it grows larger, which it could very quickly, 43:17.030 --> 43:18.610 folks, we could be in big trouble. 43:18.810 --> 43:21.790 And that's what I personally, again, speaking from Mike Flint, 43:22.450 --> 43:25.890 I would love to be able to avoid that, you know, 43:26.090 --> 43:29.410 and help those people that are trying to make those decisions to avoid that. 43:29.410 --> 43:31.830 But there has to be decisions made. 43:32.210 --> 43:35.850 We can't just sit here and keep talking to each other like this 43:35.850 --> 43:39.910 or posting things on X or some other social media outlet 43:39.910 --> 43:42.530 and think that that's going to solve the world's problems. 43:42.730 --> 43:43.170 It is not. 43:43.190 --> 43:47.750 Wouldn't you say that we're already actually at the cusp 43:47.750 --> 43:52.370 of what might be something resembling an actual civil war 43:53.070 --> 43:56.710 in this country, because the red people and the blue people 43:56.710 --> 43:58.810 actually can't talk to each other. 43:58.810 --> 44:00.230 They're different tribes. 44:01.010 --> 44:03.110 This is very, very dangerous. 44:04.050 --> 44:09.590 Yeah, I think I don't think it's as bad as as has been described by the media, 44:09.690 --> 44:11.510 the mainstream corporate woke media. 44:11.850 --> 44:15.770 I do think it from the mandate, one of the things that the mandate showed 44:15.770 --> 44:21.030 for Trump's victory was a larger component of America actually believes 44:21.030 --> 44:26.010 in the kinds of things that he has spoken about, that Trump has spoken about. 44:26.010 --> 44:29.970 So so I think it's not it's not like a 50 50 thing. 44:30.030 --> 44:33.330 I think actually we've got a much smaller group of very vocal, 44:33.550 --> 44:36.550 very active leftists, communists, primarily. 44:36.970 --> 44:40.750 And we have a majority of Americans that that want to have 44:40.750 --> 44:42.690 what frankly what I'm talking about. 44:42.790 --> 44:43.630 We want to have peace. 44:43.970 --> 44:47.830 We want to have the ability to be able to thrive as an economy. 44:48.110 --> 44:52.050 We want to be able to thrive as a country, but we want change. 44:52.050 --> 44:55.930 And we want, you know, I'll use Barack Obama's word fundamental, 44:56.370 --> 44:59.850 but we want fundamental change, you know, taking us to a place 44:59.850 --> 45:04.530 that is that is based on our constitution and not based on some 45:04.530 --> 45:07.490 communist edict that Barack Obama wanted because that's the direction 45:07.490 --> 45:08.070 that we were heading. 45:08.430 --> 45:11.050 Well, of course, we're absolutely right. 45:11.210 --> 45:18.070 But, you know, we did a we did a show that analyzed the 20 points 45:18.070 --> 45:20.710 that, you know, that big fat guy. 45:21.490 --> 45:22.850 What's his what's his name more? 45:23.070 --> 45:27.710 Yeah, Michael Moore. OK, so he came up with 20 things. 45:27.750 --> 45:30.430 And we checked that he was right about these things. 45:30.510 --> 45:33.890 And it turns out that on each of these 20 things, 45:36.070 --> 45:40.690 the average American is looking for more government and more benefits 45:40.690 --> 45:46.330 and so forth, so that it may be that the US has been very 45:46.330 --> 45:51.230 corrupted for generations by Marxist professors in college 45:51.230 --> 45:53.550 and now in high school and now in grade school. 45:53.890 --> 45:55.930 It's going to be hard to turn around there. 45:56.050 --> 45:59.770 They're in they're in law schools, they're in medical schools. 46:00.030 --> 46:02.070 I mean, they're in public schools. 46:02.790 --> 46:07.270 So anyway, yeah, I mean, I'm I know, listen, I'm going to have to 46:07.270 --> 46:09.270 I'm going to have to jump because of my time. 46:09.290 --> 46:12.810 And I want to also respect your your guys time, too. 46:12.810 --> 46:16.930 And I I would I love this kind of a conversation. 46:17.270 --> 46:19.450 And I hope that it was OK for your audience, too. 46:19.710 --> 46:20.790 It was great. I want to thank you. 46:20.890 --> 46:22.650 You gave us double the time you said you would. 46:22.830 --> 46:23.810 I really appreciate it. 46:23.870 --> 46:24.770 It's very generous of you. 46:24.890 --> 46:27.630 And hopefully we can have that longer conversation at some point. 46:27.750 --> 46:29.290 So thank you. Yeah, think about it. 46:29.330 --> 46:30.930 And you know, you guys know how to get a hold of me. 46:31.010 --> 46:35.590 And God bless you guys and your audience and and say some prayers out there. 46:35.730 --> 46:39.350 If you've got to if you have an audience that prays, pray a lot 46:39.350 --> 46:44.590 because I tell people it's the most powerful weapon system known to man. 46:45.430 --> 46:46.910 All right. Thank you very much. 46:47.050 --> 46:48.730 Thanks. God bless you.