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Welcome to the David Avocado Wolf podcast.

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This show brings you David's revolutionary ideas

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on radiant health and personal growth.

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With over 30 years of experience

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and hosting more than 3,000 live health events,

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David has inspired millions worldwide

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to live their best lives ever.

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Are you ready?

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Let's get started.

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Today is the best day ever.

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Greetings, David Avocado Wolf here.

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Welcome to the broadcast.

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I've got an awesome guest coming on, Dr. Noah Lebowitz.

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I found out about him through his amazing products,

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supreme nutrition products.

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And I was like, wow, these products are not only great

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when the way they're put together,

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but they're like products you can't get

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hardly anywhere else.

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And I was like, wow, this guy's really got something going on.

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So I thought let's track him down

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and let's get him on the broadcast.

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Now what's even better about Dr. Noah

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before I get him in here

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is that he's got an office in Maui.

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So if you're in Hawaii,

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this guy might become your doctor

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if you're tuning in from that part of the world.

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All right, let's bring him in no further ado.

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Dr. Noah Lebowitz, how are you doing?

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I'm doing great.

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It's an honor to talk with you.

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I've known about you for a long time.

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This is really cool to actually make a face connection.

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Awesome, fantastic.

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Well, I found out about you

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through your supreme nutrition products.

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So I think I'm gonna go there first

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and then talk about your practice

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and what you're doing there.

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And Maui, they're our community.

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One of the things that I found in your collection

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is Mamosaputica and we know that's a great dewarmer.

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That's what been one of the most difficult dewarmers

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to find actually right up until now.

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When did you guys develop that product

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and how long have you been onto the nature

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and the actual powers of Mamosaputica seed?

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We've probably started using it seven years ago or so

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and it was actually at the request of a fellow physician,

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a friend of ours, Dr. Charlie Fagan-Holes in California.

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He had said, hey, this stuff is awesome for parasites.

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Do you have a way that you can find it?

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And it took a lot of searching.

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I mean, it's funny, it actually grows in my backyard in Hawaii.

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That's right, we know that.

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My daughter stepped on one of the plants.

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She started crying, they call it pokies

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because of the thorns.

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But, you know, the seeds are pretty amazing.

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And yeah, about the past seven years

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we've been using it as a anti-parasitic.

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Fantastic, now that's what I've been on.

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I've been on your product and along with a bunch

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of other anti-parasite products

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and I just absolutely love your product.

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And there's a great book out there.

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I don't know if you know about Laura.

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What is there?

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Laura where the rape worm protocol Bible

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and how she healed herself

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of all her problematic conditions

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including very extreme Lyme's disease

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just by staying on the parasite killing protocols

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and the main one being Mamosaputica seed.

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So that's the thing that really got me.

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I was like, wow, this is epic.

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I'm gonna start into this.

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That became part of our protocol.

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Just real quickly before we let that one go

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because that's such a great product

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and I recommend that product.

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Anybody who's listening right now

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to add into your anti-parasite protocol,

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what's your experience with people like in the field?

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People come in your office,

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get them on Mamosaputica, how does that react with them?

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I mean, it's one of those plans

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that I look at as gentle but strong.

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People generally do very well with it when it's indicated.

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You know, Mamosa is one of those very interesting herbs

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because it has anti-fungal properties.

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It has anti-barrelia properties.

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It has anti-parasitic properties.

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So, you know, and those are like done in a petri dish.

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So it has a lot of that clinically it works

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but it also, the cool thing about it

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is it's very gelatinous.

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So like one thing I like to do sometimes with people

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is if you actually take a capsule, mix it in water,

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it literally turns into a ball of goo

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like the size of your fist.

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And so it literally like scrubs your intestines

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as it goes through.

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So it's really cool because it's not just like

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the biochemical properties of it.

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Physically, it seems to scrub things out.

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So it actually has like a dual action

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which I always thought was a really cool thing

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unlike a lot of other herbs.

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Great point, I'm so glad you brought that up.

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I actually got so far into it from your product

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that I started actually collecting some in Hawaii

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and you know how they grow

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and sometimes you can get a lot of clusters

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and I started blending them in

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and I saw that demulsant quality

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and I was like, oh, what, what?

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And that's how I actually really realized it.

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And then I started doing the experiments

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like you described and I went,

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well, this is really something amazing.

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It's like a replacement for chia seed

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or a replacement for psyllium husk

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because it has that bulking quality.

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So, hey, quality, look at that, everybody.

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Wow, look at that.

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And that's just for one capsule.

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I just love how the goopiness of it is pretty cool.

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It's like CMOS, it's just,

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it's really something special.

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And you know the plant,

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for those of you who don't know Momosiputica,

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it's the sensitive plant.

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I know Dr. Noah knows it

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because his kids are running around it

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and he knows exactly how thorny it is

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but it's the plant that reacts to you.

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Like you touch it and it will react super interesting.

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It's almost like it has animal qualities to it, right?

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100%.

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I mean, it's not a carnivorous plant

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but as soon as you touch it,

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it basically just folds up and shows its thorns

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like it's ready to fight.

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That's amazing.

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You know what's even crazier,

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because I've had a farm in Hawaii for about 20 years

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and we have always just been on getting that one out.

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Like, okay, let's get it out.

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Okay, let's get it out, let's get it out.

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And so we're always out there trying to get it out

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and I did actually essentially weed it all out

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and then realized, wait a second.

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That's kind of how it goes in Hawaii.

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I complete, I mean,

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we have so many medicinal plants grown in our property

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and with the Momosa it's always a torn of,

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I don't want to step on it

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since I always walk barefoot.

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But at the same time,

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I like the medicinal properties and it's even better

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if you can go and pick some seeds

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or pick the leaves and do it that way also.

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Greetings, David Avocado-Wolf here

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to talk to you about supreme nutrition

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and the awesome line of herbs that they have.

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Difficult to find herbs,

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herbs that are essential in our toxic world today

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and herbs that can improve your bone density

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and strengthen your immune system.

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First on the list is Makuna

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and that improves speed of thought,

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speed of wit,

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but most importantly for me is speed of reflexes.

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I'm a drummer, I got to be sharp.

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Catsclaw, Unia de Gato, another one tough to find,

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great for coughs, colds, flus, fevers,

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clean product from supreme nutrition.

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I was so happy to finally find

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a good Catsclaw product from them.

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Olive leaf extract, protect your glands,

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your reproductive organs.

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One of my favorite supplements of all,

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rich in oleorupine,

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one of the things that you got to really consider

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not only through your immune system,

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but to protect your reproductive organs as you age.

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Here's another one,

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Sysysquadrangularis for bones, tendons, ligaments, joints.

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Tough to find that, I'm a vegetarian

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and I don't eat things that normally would be good

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for that like cartilage,

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so I've got to find that in the plant world

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and supreme nutrition has it in Sysysquadrangularis.

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Then there's Mamosiputica seed

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that's designed to get those unwanted guests out,

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the parasites out,

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but also good for intractable conditions

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like Lyme's disease,

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a great adjunct to a healthy diet overall.

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Another one that I found,

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I'll just throw this in here too,

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is Andrographis peniculata,

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that's another great one for Lyme's,

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tough to find anywhere out there.

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You'll enjoy supreme nutrition's line

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of powerful and difficult to find herbs.

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Try them, you'll love them.

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Fantastic clean products

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made by doctors that I know and trust.

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This is so fun for me, Dr. Noah,

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because I really just want to kind of focus

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on like different products

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that I think are super interesting,

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which you have all of them, which is so cool.

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The next one I want to get into

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is Andrographis peniculata.

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Andrographis is one of the most bitter substances

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you may ever consume.

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I mean, it's beyond, when I grew it in Hawaii,

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actually I just would eat the flowers

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because every other part was just,

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it was overwhelming,

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but wow, you talk about like a Borrelia killer,

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you talk about an anti-parasitic,

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you talk about a mold killer, this thing's unbelievable.

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What do you think about Andrographis, Dr. Noah?

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I mean, it's one of the,

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it has a lot of different properties.

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You know, like a lot of herbs,

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you think of like more for adrenals

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or more for parasites,

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but you know, a lot of people use it

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for viral protection, it's great for viruses.

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It's good for things like EBV.

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Like you mentioned, it's a good antibacterial,

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people use it for Lyme disease.

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It helps lower histamine levels.

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It's good liver support.

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It's also good adrenal support.

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I will say with the most recent COVID strain,

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my dad's been using Andrographis the most

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in his patients also,

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and he's had really good results with that.

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So, you know, it's one of the,

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it's definitely one of the more varied plants

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in terms of what it can do.

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Amazing, you know, it's a really easy plant to grow

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and we grow it in the tropics,

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so we're growing it in Hawaii.

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So it comes from the Vedic system.

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I think, I'm pretty sure about that.

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And that's where I first originally, I think, found it.

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And for people with really chronic,

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like let's say people with chronic Lyme,

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they have chronic viral condition,

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especially the Epstein bar and that whole family,

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Herpes family, two weeks on olive leaf extract,

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two weeks on echinacea, two weeks on Andrographis,

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because you can't, Andrographis is not something

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that you can take every day forever.

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So you can take it for a period of time,

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get off of it.

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What are your thoughts about that?

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I mean, I always look at, oh, with a lot of herbs,

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you know, it's like herbs that are really strong.

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You know, ideally you shouldn't be on them long term,

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you know, there's more some like tonic type herbs

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that I think you can use as nourishing long term,

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but a lot of the strong stuff,

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I think it has a time and a place for.

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And I really, I do believe in that.

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That's smart, I think that's just,

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that's good medicine, right on.

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And then, okay, let's get on to the next one,

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because you guys, I think you call it

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in your pharmacopy of all your great products,

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you call it melea or neem, it's neem,

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you know, neem is the most well-known,

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you know, name of it in the Western atmosphere.

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Let's talk about neem and you've got a great neem product.

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Let's get into the product first,

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is it just neem leaf or is there neem seed in there,

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or what's it come consist of?

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We just use neem leaf, you know,

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with a lot of different herbs,

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they have so many different properties.

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Same with mimosa, I mean,

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the seeds have different properties than leaves,

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with melea or neem, people use the leaf,

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people use the bark, people use the seed.

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For our purpose, those though,

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we just do 100% organic leaf in the product.

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And I mean, it's another,

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it's one, I think it's probably one

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of the strongest anti-parasitics out there,

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but it's also an amazing anti-fungal, anti-candida herb.

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You know, it's one of those,

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it's extremely broad spectrum.

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I mean, when you talked about anagraphis and bitter,

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melea has to be the worst tasting herb I've ever had.

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My parents up country are Maui,

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they have a tree growing and like,

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I'll eat a couple leaves when I'm out there,

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but that stuff is potent.

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It's potent, we actually right here behind me,

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this is interesting, just it so happens.

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I've got, this is neem leaf from Hawaii,

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I'm not in Hawaii right now, I'm on another farm.

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And so this is just neem leaf I shipped up here

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because it'll go into the sprays,

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like if I'm gonna make a compost tea

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and spray the trees and nourish them through the leaves,

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I'm gonna do that because it's so good against insects,

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right, and that probably tells us something,

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you know, it's anti-parasite properties are phenomenal.

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Definitely a neem oil, which I don't recommend neem oil

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to be ingested, that can be toxic,

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but neem oil will go out and like spray our avocado trees

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and things like that is like a natural anti-pesticide,

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it's amazing.

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Amazing, yeah, I've done that too with soap.

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I think we put the neem oil and soap together,

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something like that and something like that,

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that's the story, very interesting and really,

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I think historically one of the most important herbs

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to ever come out of India, it's really a tree,

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a tree leaf, really cool and great.

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So the other thing I wanna ask you about that product

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is there's this history that we hear about

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in the Vedic system of a man taking neem leaf

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as a, so that you don't get pregnant, right?

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It's like a contraceptive of some sort.

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Is there any truth to that?

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You know, it's a really good question,

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I get this question a lot.

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I mean, certain herbs like Malia, which is neem leaf,

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or another one of my favorite anti-parasitics is the danga.

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That's another great,

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especially for more helminth, larger worm infections

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and traditionally in Ayurvedic medicine,

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they used men and women for contraception.

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You know, I don't recommend any of those during pregnancy,

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but I will say I've had a ton of women or men take them,

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feel better, and then the next stop it,

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and then the next month get pregnant.

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So I definitely wouldn't trust it as a contraceptive,

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or at least if so, it seems really fast reversible

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as soon as you stop it.

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Fascinating, interesting.

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I just went and looked at Vedanga on your site.

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That's another really cool and interesting herb.

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It's a lesser known, you know,

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like neem is a more commonly known Ayurvedic herb.

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Vedanga, we might be the only people that have it

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as a standalone product in the US.

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We found it's a great antiparasitic for larger parasites.

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Clinically, I see it work well for fungal issues.

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Also, it's really interesting.

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I read some Ayurvedic or Indian medical journals

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and it talks about how it helps support people

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with methylation issues.

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And so I have some SNPs and my homocysteine levels run

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like a 15, which is higher than they should for my age.

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But if I take methylated B vitamins, I get headaches.

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So I have to read the study.

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I tried taking Vedanga twice a day for a month

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and I did pre and post homocysteine levels

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and it actually lowered my homocysteine by 25%

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just like it actually showed in the studies.

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And so that was pretty cool

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how it basically works like folic acid

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to help support methylation

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but from a natural herbal standpoint.

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Vedanga, V-I-D-A-N-G-A, very interesting.

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Now, the elevated homocysteine levels

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for somebody who's just a lay person listening,

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that's a real big mark of an incoming heart attack.

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Any other problems too?

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Maybe stroke or what is elevated homocysteine

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really connected to?

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I mean, I look at it as heart inflammation, 100%.

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You know, I mean, it's one of those crazy things

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you go to your medical doctor

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and you have a homocysteine of 40

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and then it's like, oh, you're fine.

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You know, they don't really put

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a whole lot of faith into it

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but I definitely do look at it as heart inflammation

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but also just as a sign your body's not working

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as well as it should.

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You know, it's just, it's one of those markers

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I love to see on everyone.

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And if it's off, it's not like I need to supplement it

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but it means something's wrong.

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We need to work on you as a person to get you healthier.

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Telling you everybody out there,

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Dr. Noah, you might want to track this guy down

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as your doctor.

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That was really well described, well characterized.

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Okay, let's get on to woad.

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I was like, my God, these guys have woad.

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You got to be kidding me.

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I'm like the only person I know that grows woad actually.

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Now, I'll just say what happened was for me with woad,

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I was on some like, you know, magical herb site

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from like upstate New York or something

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and they had all kinds of interesting things.

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So they're like, yeah, woad was like a, you know,

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big druid herb and a big herb back in the old country

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in the old rank and it was used for a dye, right?

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And but, you know, they didn't really have

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any more information than I was like, huh,

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I bet you it has this magical history

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but there's no information about it

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and then they use it as a dye.

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So I'm like, okay, there's a big gap there.

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So I thought, well, I'll just grow it, see how it does.

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And I've been very surprised.

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Now, one of the things, you know,

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I'm up here in Ontario, Canada.

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So I'm in the far North, you know, I'm in northern Ontario.

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So it's a zone three, four here.

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It can get Arctic conditions.

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It snowed last night, for example.

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And up here, it can survive.

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Woad can survive outdoors

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without me having to bring seeds in

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and it reseeds itself,

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which is telling me something about its hardiness.

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It's one of the hardiest things

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I've actually ever grown here and it reseeds itself.

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And I'll tell you something else, doctor,

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know that blew my mind about it.

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Every two weeks in its growing cycle,

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it completely changes its appearance.

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Really?

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Wow.

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That's the most amazing thing I was like, oh, got it now.

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Something is magical going on.

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It looks like one, it's in the cruciferous family,

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right?

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It's like, you know, broccoli family.

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But when you look at it, you're like, wait,

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it looks like that.

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Wait, then it looks like that.

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So sometimes it'll look like wild mustard.

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Then it'll look like broccoli.

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Then it will look like some other thing

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in the cruciferous family.

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You know, then it goes to another one.

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It's like, you know, when it sprouts up,

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it looks like sprouted cabbage.

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I mean, it's just amazing.

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So I'd love to hear what you're using it for

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in your practice and what its medicinal properties are.

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Yeah, I mean, the main things that I look at it,

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I look, I mean, you know, again,

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it's an herb, it does a million different things.

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It's great anti-inflammatory.

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I mostly think of it for viral infections.

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A lot of people use it for flu.

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I personally like star anise or elixium,

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vera more for flu, but woad is a great flu

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slash viral support.

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Also, fungal issues.

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You know, my dad, he talked foreign research

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into coming out with isatis like 30 years ago

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and they eventually discontinued it,

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which is why we came out with woad.

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And he's been using it for fungal issues

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for probably the past 30 years.

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I'm currently on it for a fungal issue.

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Living in Haiku Maui,

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it's a little hard to get away from the mold.

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But so again, it's a good anti-fungal

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and anti-viral in my opinion.

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Okay, cool.

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Wow, very interesting.

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Now, do you know what, are you using the leaf?

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Is it, do you know which part of the plant?

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Is it the root?

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We're specifically using the root

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for the medicinal properties.

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And I believe that's the part

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that was used for dying as well.

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Yeah, when I used to live in Washington state,

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one of my patients,

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she was like an awesome homesteader.

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And she actually like hand stitched shirts for my kids

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and dyed them with fresh isatis,

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fresh woad that she grew, which was really cool.

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Cool, very interesting.

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Okay, now the next herb I wanna get into

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is one of my favorites of all time.

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I've grown it in Hawaii actually,

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quite for many, many years.

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And it's really interesting

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because the word actually makunin,

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it comes from the Amazon, it's a shippewa word.

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But this seed or the bean

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is probably most well known in the Ayurvedic system,

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which is Makuna Purians.

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Let's get into that because that,

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you talk about some widespread interesting

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chemistries going that affects many different things.

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There's one for you, so let's jump into Makuna.

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Like you mentioned, I mean,

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definitely probably best known in the Ayurvedic system.

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It's really high in Eldoba, which, I mean,

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I think if you look at most people that are depressed,

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they're not low in serotonin,

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they're actually low in dopamine, in my opinion.

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And supplementing with Makuna with Eldoba,

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then that converts into dopamine, so that's a mood elevator.

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And then that can also turn it into adrenaline as needed

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so it helps support increased energy.

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So I look at it for mood, I look at it for energy.

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I mean, a lot of people use it

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for increased sexual function, for libido,

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increase helping reverse male infertility,

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erectile dysfunction.

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So again, it's one of those very widespread herbs

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with a lot of properties.

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Those are kind of some of the main ones

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that I personally think of though.

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Yeah, that's a really good characterization.

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And this disturbance, I don't know your theories

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on this, Dr. No, maybe we should get into a little bit

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about what's causing all the Parkinson's.

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And my personal feeling is, and I got into this

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because of Makuna was looking at the Shikimate pathway

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of which Eldoba is a piece of that pathway

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and it kind of jumps in front of the pathway

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in case your body can't run through through the pathway

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from the amino acids through the charisma acid

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all the way step up into eventually developing

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the neuro melanin that's in the substantia nigra

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which is the core brain, right?

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So a disturbance in that pathway

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which in a plant is called the Shikimate pathway

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and a human being it's not called that

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but it's basically the same idea.

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And Makuna seems to just give so much Eldoba

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that it kind of allows that pathway to work properly

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or bypass what might be problems in the pathway.

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And then I started digging into a glyphosate.

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The glyphosate just absolutely disturbs that pathway.

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And so that's my theory is that the real cause

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of the epidemic of Parkinson's

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that we're dealing with is glyphosate poisoning.

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What do you think?

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I mean, definitely the two things that I think

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when I think Parkinson's I think chemicals

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slash pesticide, which glyphosate definitely

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at the top of that and also heavy metals.

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Both of those things I think completely will block

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or alter that pathway you're talking about.

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I mean, glyphosate's one of those.

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I mean, the more you look into it

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the more it just scares you and you really shouldn't.

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Just, you know, it's worrisome

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but definitely I mean detoxing chemicals,

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detoxing metals, detoxing herbicides

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like glyphosate can be huge

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and helping to reverse Parkinson's symptoms in people.

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Excellent, thanks for that.

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That was beautiful.

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And so we're huge fans of Makuna.

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And by the way, the history,

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I've gotten really into Makuna over the years,

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you know, because I'm a cacao grower,

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we grow chocolate trees.

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Do you grow any chocolate trees up there at your place?

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We have two, I will, we get like three pods a year.

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It's not very good.

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Okay, well, one day I'll have to visit.

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We'll give it a little fertilization,

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see what we could do,

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or maybe bring you one of our strains.

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At any rate, one of the things that has been happening

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in many jungle environments in Central and South America

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has been the growing of Makuna with cacao.

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And this is actually one of the most

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ancient combinations of all time.

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And that's an amazing combo.

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So if you are doing Makuna and you're like,

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oh, how could I mix this into some food?

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Actually it goes great with chocolate.

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That's its historical partner.

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It's even more historical than chocolate and vanilla.

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Is that wild or what?

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And, you know, that means total sense thinking of, you know,

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how a lot of like Native Americans use beans along the crops

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to nitrogen fix and everything.

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So from a growing standpoint, that's fascinating,

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but it makes complete sense.

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They do so well together.

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Just Makuna and cacao growing together is amazing.

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Makuna, vanilla and cacao all growing together

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is an amazing combination growing that way for many years.

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Okay, let's, I want to jump into, you know,

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because I think what I see in your offering

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is dealing with people with high viral load,

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dealing with people with high fungal load,

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dealing with people with high Borrelia and Lyme.

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So Japanese knotweed, you have a good

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Japanese knotweed product.

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Thank God, that's hard to find with no fillers,

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no binders, none of the junk that goes in.

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Let's get into Japanese knotweed a little bit.

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It's in that Polygonum family,

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which, you know, is notable for He Shu Wu,

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the famous Chinese herb.

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It's notable for buckwheat.

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It's notable for the, what's the yellow doc?

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Yellow Docs in that family.

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But let's get into Japanese knotweed

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and your thoughts on it.

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You know, it's, I love it for, again,

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a lot of different things.

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Like you mentioned, Lyme disease,

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it's a very popular one for that.

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It has a lot of great properties with Borrelia and Babesia.

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Great for viral issues, especially chronic viral issues.

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When you think chronic Epstein-Bars, Cytolomegovirus,

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things like that, it can come in very popular.

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And another cool thing with Japanese knotweed

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is if you look at the research,

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it has really great anti-biofilm properties.

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So that's the way that like Borrelia and different Epstein-Bars

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and different infections can hide away in biofilms.

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And so the knotweed can really help to get rid

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of the infections themselves,

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but also break down where they're hiding in the body.

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Epic, really good description.

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There's a, in the original, or in the later versions

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of Dr. Buehner, you remember Stephen Herrod Buehner,

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the great herbalist, he actually has a chart in there.

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There's one of the most amazing charts.

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I've always thought, Dr. No,

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that we need to get this chart big

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and published on websites everywhere

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because it has the herb and then all the things

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that it's known to do based on the scientific research.

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Ooh, I like that.

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Yeah, and it's in, it's only in the later versions

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of that book, and the book is called Healing Limes

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by Dr. Buehner, B-U-H-N-E-R,

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if you wanna track that down.

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And I saw that chart,

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because I had an earlier version.

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One day I was looking at another version,

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I was like, wait a second, what's this?

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What's in here?

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And I just thought, geez,

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it would be so helpful for any practitioners

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or anybody just looking for self-healing

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to just have that chart because what we're taught,

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as you know, oh, you have to take a pharmaceutical,

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this doesn't work, you do this instead.

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You know, it's like that typical dismissive,

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herbs don't work.

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In reality, herbs are the only thing

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that's gonna work long-term.

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Definitely.

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It's right, it's like,

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there's no side effects for real.

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I mean, they're natural side effects.

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If you do too much,

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you write the difference between a poison

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and a medicine as dosage.

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Do too much, your body says, hey, stop,

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let's do something else.

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And you know, it's not the pharmaceuticals

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or it's like really gnarly side effects

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and there's no end date, typically.

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But anyway, let's jump into,

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I wanted to get into Cicis quadrangularis,

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because this is another one that's just impossible to find,

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but you've got it and a good one.

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And I was like, wow, okay,

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so I wanna get into your thoughts on that one.

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You know, Cicis is a really interesting herb

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because it really helps promote healing.

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I mean, people use it for healing the stomach.

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I've seen people use it for fungal issues,

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using it has antibacterial properties.

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You know, again, as a nerve,

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it has so many different properties.

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But it's really cool because it helps to heal joints,

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it helps with ligaments, it helps with cartilage.

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So a lot of people that might have,

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you could say structural issues

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from something like Bardonella

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or just, you know, hysteria, dirt biking

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or whatever things people do,

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it really helps the body start to regenerate and heal

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in a little bit of the way, you know,

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like the big thing nowadays,

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like pro-therapy injections, stem cell injections,

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things like that.

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And this is a little bit more like an herbal version

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to help the body start to heal

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from a natural standpoint.

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Oh man, okay, so I've gotta ask you some questions

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and because I injured my meniscus on my knee

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and, you know, I'm still walking around

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but I just can't hit on a certain angle.

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That's just, that's kind of where it is.

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It's just a certain angle of attack

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and then I'll get a weird,

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like almost an electrical shock thing

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and it'll get me off of it quick.

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And it's getting, you know, it's improving a lot

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and I'll probably be over it in about six weeks,

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maybe two months, something like that.

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Cause those, you know, those things are slow.

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What else would you recommend then?

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Because I'd like to know some other things

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I could be taking other than your cysts.

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I'm doing obviously a whole bunch of,

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a whole protocol of things,

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but you may have something I don't know

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on your, on your website here.

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From a healing standpoint from an herbal,

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probably cysts would be my top recommendation.

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You know, the only other thing that sometimes,

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you know, since if things are pinched

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whenever you move, you're gonna have a lot of inflammation.

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And one thing I really like for that,

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I'm not sure if you're aware

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or if you use much of manjista or indian matter root.

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No.

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It's another, it's used in traditional Chinese medicine

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as well as Ayurvedic medicine.

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So I made, you know, both aspects of that.

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And in my opinion, it is the best lymphatic cleanser.

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So like I'll use it for people with lymphedema

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where their legs are swollen up really big,

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or just people with like chronic infections

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and their lymph is just really congested.

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A cool thing is like the first few days you take it,

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your pee will usually change colors

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because you're actually getting stuff out.

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But then they've also found with manjista,

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it's an anti-inflammatory as strong as turic,

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but it's water soluble.

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So you don't have to worry about taking it

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with the black pepper, taking it with the fat.

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It just gets absorbed a lot better.

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So that's one thing I love, manjista.

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Fantastic, we're learned so much here.

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This is just great.

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I see you also have, you have the star anise,

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that's your illicium supreme.

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Just so everybody knows that.

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I dug deep into that during the pandemic days.

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And that was fascinating.

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I got into growing it actually.

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I got so into it.

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And I was like, whoa,

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and the whole shikame pathway we were just talking about

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was discovered in this plant.

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Let's give us a little bit about that.

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I don't think that that herb gets enough press.

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You know, I think it's like 85% of the world's

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illicium or star anise crops go to making tamaflu.

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You know, but if you look at tamaflu,

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basically all the description says is

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it decreases your symptoms by up to one day

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and then has like nine pages of potential side effects.

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I mean, who wants that?

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With illicium, I mean, I love doing a high dose for me,

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which in pill form, that's about nine pills a day.

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So that's like one and a half grams, three times a day.

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And people with influenza, it works amazing.

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I've seen it stop it in its tracks whenever they're like,

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oh, I get the flu in the last week.

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I took your illicium, it was gone in a day.

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Or people that have been sick for like two weeks

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and haven't gotten over it.

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And they're like, as soon as I started it,

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it just basically stopped it in its tracks.

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And a cool thing about star anise

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is traditionally it's a safe one to use during pregnancy.

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So for all the pregnant and breastfeeding mamas out there,

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it's a good one because it works great.

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They can take it also in addition to kids,

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it tastes good in my opinion.

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Or, you know, for any adult,

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it's kind of a very versatile herb there.

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Awesome, I completely am totally in your camp.

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I think it's one of the greatest things.

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It was like, you know, there was so much talk

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about ivermectin, this is another huge,

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for me it was a discovery from the pandemic

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that was like, my God, like this stuff's incredibly powerful.

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And again, it's very high in chikamate.

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I mean, after the chikamate pathway.

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Okay, I want to jump into your Artemisia.

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That was another one.

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I think you've got the one that the African Artemisia.

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Is that correct? Is that what's in there?

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We use Artemisia annula, which is more.

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That's it, yeah.

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Okay, so I didn't know if that was called African.

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I more think of it more of it.

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I think of it as a Chinese medicine herb,

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but again, I mean, it did grow in Europe.

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I have it growing in my house.

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Yeah, sweet Marywood.

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It's a really good one.

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That's another one that came out of the whole pandemic

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that was like, it's like the star anise or illicium.

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It's like ivermectin.

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I mean, it was just something just incredible.

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It was like, Artemisia annula, who knew about that?

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And so, and then I got into the whole thing.

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It's used for malaria.

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I mean, that's a big part of what it's used for too.

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And especially in Africa.

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And then all other kinds of things.

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It's one of the actually the most

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dominantly grown herbs in Africa.

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I was like, you got it.

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It's like a whole world industry there.

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Let's get into it.

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So tell us a little bit more about it.

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I mean, it's funny like you mentioned about Artemisia

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because I mean, certain countries actually banned it

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during COVID, which makes no sense whatsoever

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because they didn't want it as a natural remedy.

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Just blows my mind.

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So definitely has a lot of great things there.

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I mean, I've thought of it as an anti-parasitic.

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It's a gentle but very potent anti-parasitic.

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I've used it for that for a long time.

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Also has some more again, gentle anti-fungal properties.

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It also is a good one for Lyme disease.

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So it has a lot of different properties,

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which I think is pretty cool.

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Like you mentioned, a lot of people use it for lupus.

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They use it for so many different things.

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I can think of a couple actually really tough

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parasite cases where some patients actually brewed

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an Artemisia T and then did enemas with it.

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And that was like the game changer for them.

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It's like the herb was working orally,

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but it just wasn't fully doing it.

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Again, I've had like two patients in 10 years do this,

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but that was like a big game changer for them.

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Interesting, fascinating about that.

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It's, you know, this is really what I love

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about what you're offering is

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these are very powerful herbs, don't get enough press.

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If you find them, they're got fillers

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and binders and other crap in it, it's just horrible.

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And then you don't really, you can't really trust it.

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But what you guys have is like, it's just incredible.

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And another one that comes up very,

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it's one I use commonly in tea,

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and it's one that's very prevalent on Hawaii actually,

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it's kind of gotten loose and wild there,

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which is cat's claw or unia de gato.

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And you've got it and you've got a trustable,

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good product, which is again,

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another one you find all kinds of things

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in this category of cat's claw

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that aren't actually the real cat's claw.

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Well, let's get into cat's claw.

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Cause to me, this is one of the great tonic herbs

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to ever come out of the jungle.

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It's one of the great substances.

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Like to me, like the Pau de Arco cat's claw combination

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is that anti-viral, anti-fungal combo is just incredible.

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And it's always a go-to.

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It's kind of like garlic level in terms of its anti-viral,

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but it also has anti-fungal properties.

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Give us some stories about cat's claw

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and what are your thoughts on it?

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I mean, like you said,

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it's a very broad spectrum,

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I think Lyme, Babesia, Bardonella and viruses,

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I think EBV, I think herpes, all of that.

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But it's also a great antibacterial.

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It's a great anti-fungal, especially with candida.

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So, you know, some people traditionally,

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they used it for UTIs,

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they used it for tooth infections,

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almost make like a poultice

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and kind of suck on it in there.

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It's supportive for the liver,

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people with IBS, Crohn's, it helps lower inflammation.

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You know, TNF alpha lowering, it's one of those again,

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it's so broad spectrum.

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And it reminds me a little bit of mimosa,

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not that like the plant moves in response to touch,

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but just those sharp claws.

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I mean, it's kind of like a get away from me type thing,

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but it is super, super powerful.

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Dr. No, you know that story about like, for example,

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Japanese knotweed that it's invasive

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in the places where it's needed?

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You know what I mean?

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Like that, this whole idea that,

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cause we're all sold some completely chaotic ideas.

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Like, oh, it's all random

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and like nature's all random.

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And actually there's an intelligence going on

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that's way beyond actually most people's consciousness.

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And what's interesting to me about cat's claw

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is it's like, like I was in Jamaica, okay?

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And I was talking to the Rastafarians up there

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in the mountains and hanging out there,

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I stayed up there with them.

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And so we, every day we're talking

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about what's going in their teapot.

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What are you actually putting in there?

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I want to know what is actually going in there.

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And then they're like, the first thing

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that goes in the bottom of that teapot every day

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is cat's claw.

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And I'm like, where is it?

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And they go like that and right there.

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So that you know how the, you know how the jungle is

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you live in the jungle.

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So you have like trees and stuff

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and bushes that are encroaching in.

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And the cat's claw climbs up those trees

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and then goes over the top of them

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and was literally connecting over the road

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up in this mountain in Jamaica.

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And I was like, oh, that, it's right there.

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Look at that.

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I mean, that's how invasive it is.

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It's so intense.

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And that kind of tells you the power completely.

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I mean, you know, talking store on the side.

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I mean, I definitely do think, you know,

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just like back in the day,

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you only were exposed to infections

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that lived near you, you know,

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different fungi, different bacteria.

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Now on any given day, we're coming in contact

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with people from every continent of the world

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we're eating food from who knows where

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and we go to exposed to so much stuff.

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And that's why I think, you know,

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pulling herbs from South America,

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from Europe, from Asia, from China,

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from India, from, you know, Canada,

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from everywhere, you kind of need that

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to deal with what you're growing with.

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You know, my dad always thought so,

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if you look in the South,

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what grows up all telephone poles, it's Kudzu.

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And he's like, ha, I wonder if Kudzu

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is going to help people with EMF sensitivities

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because like it grows up all the telephone poles.

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And it actually didn't end up.

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Kudzu is a great herb,

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but it didn't end up helping with EMFs.

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But then a lot of testing,

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we actually found Chonka piedra,

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which I'm sure, you know,

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I mean, that's a great one for stones.

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We actually found that that helps a lot of people

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with EMF sensitivities.

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Wow, of all things.

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That's interesting.

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Chonka piedra is a favorite of mine.

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I've grown it whenever,

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like it grows in Hawaii wildly.

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There's a lot of that family there.

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And it's just, it's,

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I'm trying to think of the name of it,

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it's some,

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Danthus, Pyranthus.

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Philanthus, Sneery.

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Philanthus, Nyruery.

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There it is, Nyruery.

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Philanthus, Nyruery.

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That's it, something like that, Philanthus.

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Anyway, it's one of those

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I've seen it growing all over Houston, Texas,

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for example.

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Everywhere, yep.

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And what, just one of my favorites of all time

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and the stone breaker, right?

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So, you know, the ancients knew,

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those ancient Amazonian shamans knew about

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those breaking up stone formations

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that people thought they would didn't have

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the surgical prowess that we have today,

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but man, they knew.

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I wanna talk about another one more herb that you've got.

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It's really, it's a seaweed.

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And it's just, it's cool that you have it here.

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And I was like, oh, I wonder why Dr. Noah has this,

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why this one?

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And it's one I like eating.

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I've always loved this particular seaweed,

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which is alleria.

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Alleria, you know, we wanted a trace mineral support product.

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You know, a lot of people are low in minerals.

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The problem with a lot of seaweeds are they're either,

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they're just contaminated.

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I mean, unfortunately the ocean is not clean.

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At least a lot of the ocean isn't clean like we would hope.

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And you know, we wanted to find a seaweed

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that wasn't contaminated with mercury and cadmium

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and different things like that.

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And that had a lot of iodine

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and had a lot of other good properties.

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And we found that alleria worked well.

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We were able to get a freshly harvested one

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off the coast of Nova Scotia

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where the water seems to be pretty clear.

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Heavy metal tests are great.

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And you know, it's a great iodine source

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for a lot of people that don't get daily iodine in,

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along with many other trace minerals.

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So it's kind of like my go-to

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for a trace mineral source.

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Okay, cool, cool product.

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And you see a lot of kelp out there on the market.

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You'll see a lot of like nori being eaten

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and seaweed dishes of all different kinds.

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But this is alleria is really a top shelf kind of thing.

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It's really an epic seaweed.

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That was cool.

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It was just cool to see that.

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And you've got many other things

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and I'm just gonna invite everyone.

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We'll give you guys the link to go

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and check out Dr. Noah's entire site.

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It's, if you've got somebody in your family

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who's dealing with a really, you know

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difficult viral condition or very difficult

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like labesia, Lyme situation or an unknown condition.

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This is the kind of level of herbalism

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that you should get some consultation about

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and really get some knowledge about.

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Now, Dr. Noah, you are over there in Maui.

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And so you take new patients?

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I hope you do.

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Cause I'll probably send some people your way soon.

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We are taking new patients.

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Yes.

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My dad and I worked together

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and we have another doc in the office.

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We're busy, but we love working

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with people with chronic issues.

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Fungal, Lyme, viral, chronic fatigue.

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Those are the types of things we love helping people with.

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Fantastic.

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And you're up there in Kula.

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So how do people track you down?

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Let's get your contact info

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and make sure that people know

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how to reach you at your office.

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Is it, do you have a website for your office?

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I do.

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It's very simple.

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Just drnoelibowitz.com.

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That's the easiest way to follow me.

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And I think my dad has a website also,

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but if you just Google my name,

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I come up pretty easily.

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We're not hard to find.

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Do you do social media at all?

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I do.

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I have an Instagram account

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where I just like talking health with people.

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Oh, cool.

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You know, I'm the believer is everyone is unique.

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I can have 10 people come to see me

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with the same symptoms.

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Every person gets different herbs.

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Every person gets different dietary plans

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because we're all so unique.

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But, you know, you start to see patterns

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and what works more often.

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So I like to just give some suggestions

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on social media,

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which is dr and underscore Noah DC.

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DC, okay.

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Awesome.

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Yes.

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No a H just like Noah, right?

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Yes.

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So people remember the biblical spelling

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and level which is L E B O W I T Z, right?

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Correct.

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Okay, cool.

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Okay, we got all that information.

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Fantastic.

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Well, I think when I get to Maui next time,

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I'm going to come track you down.

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Please do.

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And just overall, I want just as a,

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as kind of a perspective for people out there

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because people have a hard time understanding

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how to put this into their lifestyle, right?

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With the herbalism and the,

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and changes in diet and that kind of thing.

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Just a couple ideas, what recommendation

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of how do you integrate herbs into your diet?

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How do you integrate like a new dietary change

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that has to be consistent because, you know,

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let's say somebody's eating sugar every day

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and they've got fungal issues.

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It's not going to work out, right?

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So what are your thoughts about that?

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Just dealing with real people with real issues.

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You know, like I mentioned before,

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I mean, everyone is so unique.

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Little steps do make a difference.

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You know, if you dealt with fungal and parasitic issues

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in people, they would get so much healthier.

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But if you really want to deal

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with fungal and parasitic issues,

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you also need to make dietary changes.

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Like you mentioned, you know,

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the sugar is going to feed all of that.

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So you can't ever look at anything in isolation.

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You know, some people could just cut

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sugaring out of their diet and they feel amazing.

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Some people could just take an herb

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like Malia, the neem leaf, and they feel amazing.

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But a lot of the times it's kind of that combination in one

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to really get them over the hump

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and making changes like that and they can really do well.

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Fantastic.

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All right, everybody, that's Dr. Noah Lebowitz,

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great doctor over there and Maui.

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Track him down.

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We'll get the information right here in the show notes

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so you can track him down yourself.

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We'll make sure you get his shop too.

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They've got really great stuff and really interesting stuff

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and stuff that you can rely on.

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Just the fact that I can go and get the cat's claw

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and just know that I can rely on it

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and I know the product and I know how good it is.

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The fact that I can get like Artemisia and Neua and know

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it's like, hey, there's no fillers and no binders,

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no crap, you know, no chemical sprays,

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all that stuff, it's just awesome.

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And many other things are there.

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So check that out.

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Thanks so much for joining us, Dr. Noah.

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We'll have you on again.

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Thank you, it's been an honor.

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All right, you guys, signing off.

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Have the best day ever.

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