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Greetings, David Avocado Wolf here.
Welcome to the broadcast.
I've got an awesome guest coming on, Dr. Noah Lebowitz.
I found out about him through his amazing products,
supreme nutrition products.
And I was like, wow, these products are not only great
when the way they're put together,
but they're like products you can't get
hardly anywhere else.
And I was like, wow, this guy's really got something going on.
So I thought let's track him down
and let's get him on the broadcast.
Now what's even better about Dr. Noah
before I get him in here
is that he's got an office in Maui.
So if you're in Hawaii,
this guy might become your doctor
if you're tuning in from that part of the world.
All right, let's bring him in no further ado.
Dr. Noah Lebowitz, how are you doing?
I'm doing great.
It's an honor to talk with you.
I've known about you for a long time.
This is really cool to actually make a face connection.
Awesome, fantastic.
Well, I found out about you
through your supreme nutrition products.
So I think I'm gonna go there first
and then talk about your practice
and what you're doing there.
And Maui, they're our community.
One of the things that I found in your collection
is Mamosaputica and we know that's a great dewarmer.
That's what been one of the most difficult dewarmers
to find actually right up until now.
When did you guys develop that product
and how long have you been onto the nature
and the actual powers of Mamosaputica seed?
We've probably started using it seven years ago or so
and it was actually at the request of a fellow physician,
a friend of ours, Dr. Charlie Fagan-Holes in California.
He had said, hey, this stuff is awesome for parasites.
Do you have a way that you can find it?
And it took a lot of searching.
I mean, it's funny, it actually grows in my backyard in Hawaii.
That's right, we know that.
My daughter stepped on one of the plants.
She started crying, they call it pokies
because of the thorns.
But, you know, the seeds are pretty amazing.
And yeah, about the past seven years
we've been using it as a anti-parasitic.
Fantastic, now that's what I've been on.
I've been on your product and along with a bunch
of other anti-parasite products
and I just absolutely love your product.
And there's a great book out there.
I don't know if you know about Laura.
What is there?
Laura where the rape worm protocol Bible
and how she healed herself
of all her problematic conditions
including very extreme Lyme's disease
just by staying on the parasite killing protocols
and the main one being Mamosaputica seed.
So that's the thing that really got me.
I was like, wow, this is epic.
I'm gonna start into this.
That became part of our protocol.
Just real quickly before we let that one go
because that's such a great product
and I recommend that product.
Anybody who's listening right now
to add into your anti-parasite protocol,
what's your experience with people like in the field?
People come in your office,
get them on Mamosaputica, how does that react with them?
I mean, it's one of those plans
that I look at as gentle but strong.
People generally do very well with it when it's indicated.
You know, Mamosa is one of those very interesting herbs
because it has anti-fungal properties.
It has anti-barrelia properties.
It has anti-parasitic properties.
So, you know, and those are like done in a petri dish.
So it has a lot of that clinically it works
but it also, the cool thing about it
is it's very gelatinous.
So like one thing I like to do sometimes with people
is if you actually take a capsule, mix it in water,
it literally turns into a ball of goo
like the size of your fist.
And so it literally like scrubs your intestines
as it goes through.
So it's really cool because it's not just like
the biochemical properties of it.
Physically, it seems to scrub things out.
So it actually has like a dual action
which I always thought was a really cool thing
unlike a lot of other herbs.
Great point, I'm so glad you brought that up.
I actually got so far into it from your product
that I started actually collecting some in Hawaii
and you know how they grow
and sometimes you can get a lot of clusters
and I started blending them in
and I saw that demulsant quality
and I was like, oh, what, what?
And that's how I actually really realized it.
And then I started doing the experiments
like you described and I went,
well, this is really something amazing.
It's like a replacement for chia seed
or a replacement for psyllium husk
because it has that bulking quality.
So, hey, quality, look at that, everybody.
Wow, look at that.
And that's just for one capsule.
I just love how the goopiness of it is pretty cool.
It's like CMOS, it's just,
it's really something special.
And you know the plant,
for those of you who don't know Momosiputica,
it's the sensitive plant.
I know Dr. Noah knows it
because his kids are running around it
and he knows exactly how thorny it is
but it's the plant that reacts to you.
Like you touch it and it will react super interesting.
It's almost like it has animal qualities to it, right?
100%.
I mean, it's not a carnivorous plant
but as soon as you touch it,
it basically just folds up and shows its thorns
like it's ready to fight.
That's amazing.
You know what's even crazier,
because I've had a farm in Hawaii for about 20 years
and we have always just been on getting that one out.
Like, okay, let's get it out.
Okay, let's get it out, let's get it out.
And so we're always out there trying to get it out
and I did actually essentially weed it all out
and then realized, wait a second.
That's kind of how it goes in Hawaii.
I complete, I mean,
we have so many medicinal plants grown in our property
and with the Momosa it's always a torn of,
I don't want to step on it
since I always walk barefoot.
But at the same time,
I like the medicinal properties and it's even better
if you can go and pick some seeds
or pick the leaves and do it that way also.
Greetings, David Avocado-Wolf here
to talk to you about supreme nutrition
and the awesome line of herbs that they have.
Difficult to find herbs,
herbs that are essential in our toxic world today
and herbs that can improve your bone density
and strengthen your immune system.
First on the list is Makuna
and that improves speed of thought,
speed of wit,
but most importantly for me is speed of reflexes.
I'm a drummer, I got to be sharp.
Catsclaw, Unia de Gato, another one tough to find,
great for coughs, colds, flus, fevers,
clean product from supreme nutrition.
I was so happy to finally find
a good Catsclaw product from them.
Olive leaf extract, protect your glands,
your reproductive organs.
One of my favorite supplements of all,
rich in oleorupine,
one of the things that you got to really consider
not only through your immune system,
but to protect your reproductive organs as you age.
Here's another one,
Sysysquadrangularis for bones, tendons, ligaments, joints.
Tough to find that, I'm a vegetarian
and I don't eat things that normally would be good
for that like cartilage,
so I've got to find that in the plant world
and supreme nutrition has it in Sysysquadrangularis.
Then there's Mamosiputica seed
that's designed to get those unwanted guests out,
the parasites out,
but also good for intractable conditions
like Lyme's disease,
a great adjunct to a healthy diet overall.
Another one that I found,
I'll just throw this in here too,
is Andrographis peniculata,
that's another great one for Lyme's,
tough to find anywhere out there.
You'll enjoy supreme nutrition's line
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Try them, you'll love them.
Fantastic clean products
made by doctors that I know and trust.
This is so fun for me, Dr. Noah,
because I really just want to kind of focus
on like different products
that I think are super interesting,
which you have all of them, which is so cool.
The next one I want to get into
is Andrographis peniculata.
Andrographis is one of the most bitter substances
you may ever consume.
I mean, it's beyond, when I grew it in Hawaii,
actually I just would eat the flowers
because every other part was just,
it was overwhelming,
but wow, you talk about like a Borrelia killer,
you talk about an anti-parasitic,
you talk about a mold killer, this thing's unbelievable.
What do you think about Andrographis, Dr. Noah?
I mean, it's one of the,
it has a lot of different properties.
You know, like a lot of herbs,
you think of like more for adrenals
or more for parasites,
but you know, a lot of people use it
for viral protection, it's great for viruses.
It's good for things like EBV.
Like you mentioned, it's a good antibacterial,
people use it for Lyme disease.
It helps lower histamine levels.
It's good liver support.
It's also good adrenal support.
I will say with the most recent COVID strain,
my dad's been using Andrographis the most
in his patients also,
and he's had really good results with that.
So, you know, it's one of the,
it's definitely one of the more varied plants
in terms of what it can do.
Amazing, you know, it's a really easy plant to grow
and we grow it in the tropics,
so we're growing it in Hawaii.
So it comes from the Vedic system.
I think, I'm pretty sure about that.
And that's where I first originally, I think, found it.
And for people with really chronic,
like let's say people with chronic Lyme,
they have chronic viral condition,
especially the Epstein bar and that whole family,
Herpes family, two weeks on olive leaf extract,
two weeks on echinacea, two weeks on Andrographis,
because you can't, Andrographis is not something
that you can take every day forever.
So you can take it for a period of time,
get off of it.
What are your thoughts about that?
I mean, I always look at, oh, with a lot of herbs,
you know, it's like herbs that are really strong.
You know, ideally you shouldn't be on them long term,
you know, there's more some like tonic type herbs
that I think you can use as nourishing long term,
but a lot of the strong stuff,
I think it has a time and a place for.
And I really, I do believe in that.
That's smart, I think that's just,
that's good medicine, right on.
And then, okay, let's get on to the next one,
because you guys, I think you call it
in your pharmacopy of all your great products,
you call it melea or neem, it's neem,
you know, neem is the most well-known,
you know, name of it in the Western atmosphere.
Let's talk about neem and you've got a great neem product.
Let's get into the product first,
is it just neem leaf or is there neem seed in there,
or what's it come consist of?
We just use neem leaf, you know,
with a lot of different herbs,
they have so many different properties.
Same with mimosa, I mean,
the seeds have different properties than leaves,
with melea or neem, people use the leaf,
people use the bark, people use the seed.
For our purpose, those though,
we just do 100% organic leaf in the product.
And I mean, it's another,
it's one, I think it's probably one
of the strongest anti-parasitics out there,
but it's also an amazing anti-fungal, anti-candida herb.
You know, it's one of those,
it's extremely broad spectrum.
I mean, when you talked about anagraphis and bitter,
melea has to be the worst tasting herb I've ever had.
My parents up country are Maui,
they have a tree growing and like,
I'll eat a couple leaves when I'm out there,
but that stuff is potent.
It's potent, we actually right here behind me,
this is interesting, just it so happens.
I've got, this is neem leaf from Hawaii,
I'm not in Hawaii right now, I'm on another farm.
And so this is just neem leaf I shipped up here
because it'll go into the sprays,
like if I'm gonna make a compost tea
and spray the trees and nourish them through the leaves,
I'm gonna do that because it's so good against insects,
right, and that probably tells us something,
you know, it's anti-parasite properties are phenomenal.
Definitely a neem oil, which I don't recommend neem oil
to be ingested, that can be toxic,
but neem oil will go out and like spray our avocado trees
and things like that is like a natural anti-pesticide,
it's amazing.
Amazing, yeah, I've done that too with soap.
I think we put the neem oil and soap together,
something like that and something like that,
that's the story, very interesting and really,
I think historically one of the most important herbs
to ever come out of India, it's really a tree,
a tree leaf, really cool and great.
So the other thing I wanna ask you about that product
is there's this history that we hear about
in the Vedic system of a man taking neem leaf
as a, so that you don't get pregnant, right?
It's like a contraceptive of some sort.
Is there any truth to that?
You know, it's a really good question,
I get this question a lot.
I mean, certain herbs like Malia, which is neem leaf,
or another one of my favorite anti-parasitics is the danga.
That's another great,
especially for more helminth, larger worm infections
and traditionally in Ayurvedic medicine,
they used men and women for contraception.
You know, I don't recommend any of those during pregnancy,
but I will say I've had a ton of women or men take them,
feel better, and then the next stop it,
and then the next month get pregnant.
So I definitely wouldn't trust it as a contraceptive,
or at least if so, it seems really fast reversible
as soon as you stop it.
Fascinating, interesting.
I just went and looked at Vedanga on your site.
That's another really cool and interesting herb.
It's a lesser known, you know,
like neem is a more commonly known Ayurvedic herb.
Vedanga, we might be the only people that have it
as a standalone product in the US.
We found it's a great antiparasitic for larger parasites.
Clinically, I see it work well for fungal issues.
Also, it's really interesting.
I read some Ayurvedic or Indian medical journals
and it talks about how it helps support people
with methylation issues.
And so I have some SNPs and my homocysteine levels run
like a 15, which is higher than they should for my age.
But if I take methylated B vitamins, I get headaches.
So I have to read the study.
I tried taking Vedanga twice a day for a month
and I did pre and post homocysteine levels
and it actually lowered my homocysteine by 25%
just like it actually showed in the studies.
And so that was pretty cool
how it basically works like folic acid
to help support methylation
but from a natural herbal standpoint.
Vedanga, V-I-D-A-N-G-A, very interesting.
Now, the elevated homocysteine levels
for somebody who's just a lay person listening,
that's a real big mark of an incoming heart attack.
Any other problems too?
Maybe stroke or what is elevated homocysteine
really connected to?
I mean, I look at it as heart inflammation, 100%.
You know, I mean, it's one of those crazy things
you go to your medical doctor
and you have a homocysteine of 40
and then it's like, oh, you're fine.
You know, they don't really put
a whole lot of faith into it
but I definitely do look at it as heart inflammation
but also just as a sign your body's not working
as well as it should.
You know, it's just, it's one of those markers
I love to see on everyone.
And if it's off, it's not like I need to supplement it
but it means something's wrong.
We need to work on you as a person to get you healthier.
Telling you everybody out there,
Dr. Noah, you might want to track this guy down
as your doctor.
That was really well described, well characterized.
Okay, let's get on to woad.
I was like, my God, these guys have woad.
You got to be kidding me.
I'm like the only person I know that grows woad actually.
Now, I'll just say what happened was for me with woad,
I was on some like, you know, magical herb site
from like upstate New York or something
and they had all kinds of interesting things.
So they're like, yeah, woad was like a, you know,
big druid herb and a big herb back in the old country
in the old rank and it was used for a dye, right?
And but, you know, they didn't really have
any more information than I was like, huh,
I bet you it has this magical history
but there's no information about it
and then they use it as a dye.
So I'm like, okay, there's a big gap there.
So I thought, well, I'll just grow it, see how it does.
And I've been very surprised.
Now, one of the things, you know,
I'm up here in Ontario, Canada.
So I'm in the far North, you know, I'm in northern Ontario.
So it's a zone three, four here.
It can get Arctic conditions.
It snowed last night, for example.
And up here, it can survive.
Woad can survive outdoors
without me having to bring seeds in
and it reseeds itself,
which is telling me something about its hardiness.
It's one of the hardiest things
I've actually ever grown here and it reseeds itself.
And I'll tell you something else, doctor,
know that blew my mind about it.
Every two weeks in its growing cycle,
it completely changes its appearance.
Really?
Wow.
That's the most amazing thing I was like, oh, got it now.
Something is magical going on.
It looks like one, it's in the cruciferous family,
right?
It's like, you know, broccoli family.
But when you look at it, you're like, wait,
it looks like that.
Wait, then it looks like that.
So sometimes it'll look like wild mustard.
Then it'll look like broccoli.
Then it will look like some other thing
in the cruciferous family.
You know, then it goes to another one.
It's like, you know, when it sprouts up,
it looks like sprouted cabbage.
I mean, it's just amazing.
So I'd love to hear what you're using it for
in your practice and what its medicinal properties are.
Yeah, I mean, the main things that I look at it,
I look, I mean, you know, again,
it's an herb, it does a million different things.
It's great anti-inflammatory.
I mostly think of it for viral infections.
A lot of people use it for flu.
I personally like star anise or elixium,
vera more for flu, but woad is a great flu
slash viral support.
Also, fungal issues.
You know, my dad, he talked foreign research
into coming out with isatis like 30 years ago
and they eventually discontinued it,
which is why we came out with woad.
And he's been using it for fungal issues
for probably the past 30 years.
I'm currently on it for a fungal issue.
Living in Haiku Maui,
it's a little hard to get away from the mold.
But so again, it's a good anti-fungal
and anti-viral in my opinion.
Okay, cool.
Wow, very interesting.
Now, do you know what, are you using the leaf?
Is it, do you know which part of the plant?
Is it the root?
We're specifically using the root
for the medicinal properties.
And I believe that's the part
that was used for dying as well.
Yeah, when I used to live in Washington state,
one of my patients,
she was like an awesome homesteader.
And she actually like hand stitched shirts for my kids
and dyed them with fresh isatis,
fresh woad that she grew, which was really cool.
Cool, very interesting.
Okay, now the next herb I wanna get into
is one of my favorites of all time.
I've grown it in Hawaii actually,
quite for many, many years.
And it's really interesting
because the word actually makunin,
it comes from the Amazon, it's a shippewa word.
But this seed or the bean
is probably most well known in the Ayurvedic system,
which is Makuna Purians.
Let's get into that because that,
you talk about some widespread interesting
chemistries going that affects many different things.
There's one for you, so let's jump into Makuna.
Like you mentioned, I mean,
definitely probably best known in the Ayurvedic system.
It's really high in Eldoba, which, I mean,
I think if you look at most people that are depressed,
they're not low in serotonin,
they're actually low in dopamine, in my opinion.
And supplementing with Makuna with Eldoba,
then that converts into dopamine, so that's a mood elevator.
And then that can also turn it into adrenaline as needed
so it helps support increased energy.
So I look at it for mood, I look at it for energy.
I mean, a lot of people use it
for increased sexual function, for libido,
increase helping reverse male infertility,
erectile dysfunction.
So again, it's one of those very widespread herbs
with a lot of properties.
Those are kind of some of the main ones
that I personally think of though.
Yeah, that's a really good characterization.
And this disturbance, I don't know your theories
on this, Dr. No, maybe we should get into a little bit
about what's causing all the Parkinson's.
And my personal feeling is, and I got into this
because of Makuna was looking at the Shikimate pathway
of which Eldoba is a piece of that pathway
and it kind of jumps in front of the pathway
in case your body can't run through through the pathway
from the amino acids through the charisma acid
all the way step up into eventually developing
the neuro melanin that's in the substantia nigra
which is the core brain, right?
So a disturbance in that pathway
which in a plant is called the Shikimate pathway
and a human being it's not called that
but it's basically the same idea.
And Makuna seems to just give so much Eldoba
that it kind of allows that pathway to work properly
or bypass what might be problems in the pathway.
And then I started digging into a glyphosate.
The glyphosate just absolutely disturbs that pathway.
And so that's my theory is that the real cause
of the epidemic of Parkinson's
that we're dealing with is glyphosate poisoning.
What do you think?
I mean, definitely the two things that I think
when I think Parkinson's I think chemicals
slash pesticide, which glyphosate definitely
at the top of that and also heavy metals.
Both of those things I think completely will block
or alter that pathway you're talking about.
I mean, glyphosate's one of those.
I mean, the more you look into it
the more it just scares you and you really shouldn't.
Just, you know, it's worrisome
but definitely I mean detoxing chemicals,
detoxing metals, detoxing herbicides
like glyphosate can be huge
and helping to reverse Parkinson's symptoms in people.
Excellent, thanks for that.
That was beautiful.
And so we're huge fans of Makuna.
And by the way, the history,
I've gotten really into Makuna over the years,
you know, because I'm a cacao grower,
we grow chocolate trees.
Do you grow any chocolate trees up there at your place?
We have two, I will, we get like three pods a year.
It's not very good.
Okay, well, one day I'll have to visit.
We'll give it a little fertilization,
see what we could do,
or maybe bring you one of our strains.
At any rate, one of the things that has been happening
in many jungle environments in Central and South America
has been the growing of Makuna with cacao.
And this is actually one of the most
ancient combinations of all time.
And that's an amazing combo.
So if you are doing Makuna and you're like,
oh, how could I mix this into some food?
Actually it goes great with chocolate.
That's its historical partner.
It's even more historical than chocolate and vanilla.
Is that wild or what?
And, you know, that means total sense thinking of, you know,
how a lot of like Native Americans use beans along the crops
to nitrogen fix and everything.
So from a growing standpoint, that's fascinating,
but it makes complete sense.
They do so well together.
Just Makuna and cacao growing together is amazing.
Makuna, vanilla and cacao all growing together
is an amazing combination growing that way for many years.
Okay, let's, I want to jump into, you know,
because I think what I see in your offering
is dealing with people with high viral load,
dealing with people with high fungal load,
dealing with people with high Borrelia and Lyme.
So Japanese knotweed, you have a good
Japanese knotweed product.
Thank God, that's hard to find with no fillers,
no binders, none of the junk that goes in.
Let's get into Japanese knotweed a little bit.
It's in that Polygonum family,
which, you know, is notable for He Shu Wu,
the famous Chinese herb.
It's notable for buckwheat.
It's notable for the, what's the yellow doc?
Yellow Docs in that family.
But let's get into Japanese knotweed
and your thoughts on it.
You know, it's, I love it for, again,
a lot of different things.
Like you mentioned, Lyme disease,
it's a very popular one for that.
It has a lot of great properties with Borrelia and Babesia.
Great for viral issues, especially chronic viral issues.
When you think chronic Epstein-Bars, Cytolomegovirus,
things like that, it can come in very popular.
And another cool thing with Japanese knotweed
is if you look at the research,
it has really great anti-biofilm properties.
So that's the way that like Borrelia and different Epstein-Bars
and different infections can hide away in biofilms.
And so the knotweed can really help to get rid
of the infections themselves,
but also break down where they're hiding in the body.
Epic, really good description.
There's a, in the original, or in the later versions
of Dr. Buehner, you remember Stephen Herrod Buehner,
the great herbalist, he actually has a chart in there.
There's one of the most amazing charts.
I've always thought, Dr. No,
that we need to get this chart big
and published on websites everywhere
because it has the herb and then all the things
that it's known to do based on the scientific research.
Ooh, I like that.
Yeah, and it's in, it's only in the later versions
of that book, and the book is called Healing Limes
by Dr. Buehner, B-U-H-N-E-R,
if you wanna track that down.
And I saw that chart,
because I had an earlier version.
One day I was looking at another version,
I was like, wait a second, what's this?
What's in here?
And I just thought, geez,
it would be so helpful for any practitioners
or anybody just looking for self-healing
to just have that chart because what we're taught,
as you know, oh, you have to take a pharmaceutical,
this doesn't work, you do this instead.
You know, it's like that typical dismissive,
herbs don't work.
In reality, herbs are the only thing
that's gonna work long-term.
Definitely.
It's right, it's like,
there's no side effects for real.
I mean, they're natural side effects.
If you do too much,
you write the difference between a poison
and a medicine as dosage.
Do too much, your body says, hey, stop,
let's do something else.
And you know, it's not the pharmaceuticals
or it's like really gnarly side effects
and there's no end date, typically.
But anyway, let's jump into,
I wanted to get into Cicis quadrangularis,
because this is another one that's just impossible to find,
but you've got it and a good one.
And I was like, wow, okay,
so I wanna get into your thoughts on that one.
You know, Cicis is a really interesting herb
because it really helps promote healing.
I mean, people use it for healing the stomach.
I've seen people use it for fungal issues,
using it has antibacterial properties.
You know, again, as a nerve,
it has so many different properties.
But it's really cool because it helps to heal joints,
it helps with ligaments, it helps with cartilage.
So a lot of people that might have,
you could say structural issues
from something like Bardonella
or just, you know, hysteria, dirt biking
or whatever things people do,
it really helps the body start to regenerate and heal
in a little bit of the way, you know,
like the big thing nowadays,
like pro-therapy injections, stem cell injections,
things like that.
And this is a little bit more like an herbal version
to help the body start to heal
from a natural standpoint.
Oh man, okay, so I've gotta ask you some questions
and because I injured my meniscus on my knee
and, you know, I'm still walking around
but I just can't hit on a certain angle.
That's just, that's kind of where it is.
It's just a certain angle of attack
and then I'll get a weird,
like almost an electrical shock thing
and it'll get me off of it quick.
And it's getting, you know, it's improving a lot
and I'll probably be over it in about six weeks,
maybe two months, something like that.
Cause those, you know, those things are slow.
What else would you recommend then?
Because I'd like to know some other things
I could be taking other than your cysts.
I'm doing obviously a whole bunch of,
a whole protocol of things,
but you may have something I don't know
on your, on your website here.
From a healing standpoint from an herbal,
probably cysts would be my top recommendation.
You know, the only other thing that sometimes,
you know, since if things are pinched
whenever you move, you're gonna have a lot of inflammation.
And one thing I really like for that,
I'm not sure if you're aware
or if you use much of manjista or indian matter root.
No.
It's another, it's used in traditional Chinese medicine
as well as Ayurvedic medicine.
So I made, you know, both aspects of that.
And in my opinion, it is the best lymphatic cleanser.
So like I'll use it for people with lymphedema
where their legs are swollen up really big,
or just people with like chronic infections
and their lymph is just really congested.
A cool thing is like the first few days you take it,
your pee will usually change colors
because you're actually getting stuff out.
But then they've also found with manjista,
it's an anti-inflammatory as strong as turic,
but it's water soluble.
So you don't have to worry about taking it
with the black pepper, taking it with the fat.
It just gets absorbed a lot better.
So that's one thing I love, manjista.
Fantastic, we're learned so much here.
This is just great.
I see you also have, you have the star anise,
that's your illicium supreme.
Just so everybody knows that.
I dug deep into that during the pandemic days.
And that was fascinating.
I got into growing it actually.
I got so into it.
And I was like, whoa,
and the whole shikame pathway we were just talking about
was discovered in this plant.
Let's give us a little bit about that.
I don't think that that herb gets enough press.
You know, I think it's like 85% of the world's
illicium or star anise crops go to making tamaflu.
You know, but if you look at tamaflu,
basically all the description says is
it decreases your symptoms by up to one day
and then has like nine pages of potential side effects.
I mean, who wants that?
With illicium, I mean, I love doing a high dose for me,
which in pill form, that's about nine pills a day.
So that's like one and a half grams, three times a day.
And people with influenza, it works amazing.
I've seen it stop it in its tracks whenever they're like,
oh, I get the flu in the last week.
I took your illicium, it was gone in a day.
Or people that have been sick for like two weeks
and haven't gotten over it.
And they're like, as soon as I started it,
it just basically stopped it in its tracks.
And a cool thing about star anise
is traditionally it's a safe one to use during pregnancy.
So for all the pregnant and breastfeeding mamas out there,
it's a good one because it works great.
They can take it also in addition to kids,
it tastes good in my opinion.
Or, you know, for any adult,
it's kind of a very versatile herb there.
Awesome, I completely am totally in your camp.
I think it's one of the greatest things.
It was like, you know, there was so much talk
about ivermectin, this is another huge,
for me it was a discovery from the pandemic
that was like, my God, like this stuff's incredibly powerful.
And again, it's very high in chikamate.
I mean, after the chikamate pathway.
Okay, I want to jump into your Artemisia.
That was another one.
I think you've got the one that the African Artemisia.
Is that correct? Is that what's in there?
We use Artemisia annula, which is more.
That's it, yeah.
Okay, so I didn't know if that was called African.
I more think of it more of it.
I think of it as a Chinese medicine herb,
but again, I mean, it did grow in Europe.
I have it growing in my house.
Yeah, sweet Marywood.
It's a really good one.
That's another one that came out of the whole pandemic
that was like, it's like the star anise or illicium.
It's like ivermectin.
I mean, it was just something just incredible.
It was like, Artemisia annula, who knew about that?
And so, and then I got into the whole thing.
It's used for malaria.
I mean, that's a big part of what it's used for too.
And especially in Africa.
And then all other kinds of things.
It's one of the actually the most
dominantly grown herbs in Africa.
I was like, you got it.
It's like a whole world industry there.
Let's get into it.
So tell us a little bit more about it.
I mean, it's funny like you mentioned about Artemisia
because I mean, certain countries actually banned it
during COVID, which makes no sense whatsoever
because they didn't want it as a natural remedy.
Just blows my mind.
So definitely has a lot of great things there.
I mean, I've thought of it as an anti-parasitic.
It's a gentle but very potent anti-parasitic.
I've used it for that for a long time.
Also has some more again, gentle anti-fungal properties.
It also is a good one for Lyme disease.
So it has a lot of different properties,
which I think is pretty cool.
Like you mentioned, a lot of people use it for lupus.
They use it for so many different things.
I can think of a couple actually really tough
parasite cases where some patients actually brewed
an Artemisia T and then did enemas with it.
And that was like the game changer for them.
It's like the herb was working orally,
but it just wasn't fully doing it.
Again, I've had like two patients in 10 years do this,
but that was like a big game changer for them.
Interesting, fascinating about that.
It's, you know, this is really what I love
about what you're offering is
these are very powerful herbs, don't get enough press.
If you find them, they're got fillers
and binders and other crap in it, it's just horrible.
And then you don't really, you can't really trust it.
But what you guys have is like, it's just incredible.
And another one that comes up very,
it's one I use commonly in tea,
and it's one that's very prevalent on Hawaii actually,
it's kind of gotten loose and wild there,
which is cat's claw or unia de gato.
And you've got it and you've got a trustable,
good product, which is again,
another one you find all kinds of things
in this category of cat's claw
that aren't actually the real cat's claw.
Well, let's get into cat's claw.
Cause to me, this is one of the great tonic herbs
to ever come out of the jungle.
It's one of the great substances.
Like to me, like the Pau de Arco cat's claw combination
is that anti-viral, anti-fungal combo is just incredible.
And it's always a go-to.
It's kind of like garlic level in terms of its anti-viral,
but it also has anti-fungal properties.
Give us some stories about cat's claw
and what are your thoughts on it?
I mean, like you said,
it's a very broad spectrum,
I think Lyme, Babesia, Bardonella and viruses,
I think EBV, I think herpes, all of that.
But it's also a great antibacterial.
It's a great anti-fungal, especially with candida.
So, you know, some people traditionally,
they used it for UTIs,
they used it for tooth infections,
almost make like a poultice
and kind of suck on it in there.
It's supportive for the liver,
people with IBS, Crohn's, it helps lower inflammation.
You know, TNF alpha lowering, it's one of those again,
it's so broad spectrum.
And it reminds me a little bit of mimosa,
not that like the plant moves in response to touch,
but just those sharp claws.
I mean, it's kind of like a get away from me type thing,
but it is super, super powerful.
Dr. No, you know that story about like, for example,
Japanese knotweed that it's invasive
in the places where it's needed?
You know what I mean?
Like that, this whole idea that,
cause we're all sold some completely chaotic ideas.
Like, oh, it's all random
and like nature's all random.
And actually there's an intelligence going on
that's way beyond actually most people's consciousness.
And what's interesting to me about cat's claw
is it's like, like I was in Jamaica, okay?
And I was talking to the Rastafarians up there
in the mountains and hanging out there,
I stayed up there with them.
And so we, every day we're talking
about what's going in their teapot.
What are you actually putting in there?
I want to know what is actually going in there.
And then they're like, the first thing
that goes in the bottom of that teapot every day
is cat's claw.
And I'm like, where is it?
And they go like that and right there.
So that you know how the, you know how the jungle is
you live in the jungle.
So you have like trees and stuff
and bushes that are encroaching in.
And the cat's claw climbs up those trees
and then goes over the top of them
and was literally connecting over the road
up in this mountain in Jamaica.
And I was like, oh, that, it's right there.
Look at that.
I mean, that's how invasive it is.
It's so intense.
And that kind of tells you the power completely.
I mean, you know, talking store on the side.
I mean, I definitely do think, you know,
just like back in the day,
you only were exposed to infections
that lived near you, you know,
different fungi, different bacteria.
Now on any given day, we're coming in contact
with people from every continent of the world
we're eating food from who knows where
and we go to exposed to so much stuff.
And that's why I think, you know,
pulling herbs from South America,
from Europe, from Asia, from China,
from India, from, you know, Canada,
from everywhere, you kind of need that
to deal with what you're growing with.
You know, my dad always thought so,
if you look in the South,
what grows up all telephone poles, it's Kudzu.
And he's like, ha, I wonder if Kudzu
is going to help people with EMF sensitivities
because like it grows up all the telephone poles.
And it actually didn't end up.
Kudzu is a great herb,
but it didn't end up helping with EMFs.
But then a lot of testing,
we actually found Chonka piedra,
which I'm sure, you know,
I mean, that's a great one for stones.
We actually found that that helps a lot of people
with EMF sensitivities.
Wow, of all things.
That's interesting.
Chonka piedra is a favorite of mine.
I've grown it whenever,
like it grows in Hawaii wildly.
There's a lot of that family there.
And it's just, it's,
I'm trying to think of the name of it,
it's some,
Danthus, Pyranthus.
Philanthus, Sneery.
Philanthus, Nyruery.
There it is, Nyruery.
Philanthus, Nyruery.
That's it, something like that, Philanthus.
Anyway, it's one of those
I've seen it growing all over Houston, Texas,
for example.
Everywhere, yep.
And what, just one of my favorites of all time
and the stone breaker, right?
So, you know, the ancients knew,
those ancient Amazonian shamans knew about
those breaking up stone formations
that people thought they would didn't have
the surgical prowess that we have today,
but man, they knew.
I wanna talk about another one more herb that you've got.
It's really, it's a seaweed.
And it's just, it's cool that you have it here.
And I was like, oh, I wonder why Dr. Noah has this,
why this one?
And it's one I like eating.
I've always loved this particular seaweed,
which is alleria.
Alleria, you know, we wanted a trace mineral support product.
You know, a lot of people are low in minerals.
The problem with a lot of seaweeds are they're either,
they're just contaminated.
I mean, unfortunately the ocean is not clean.
At least a lot of the ocean isn't clean like we would hope.
And you know, we wanted to find a seaweed
that wasn't contaminated with mercury and cadmium
and different things like that.
And that had a lot of iodine
and had a lot of other good properties.
And we found that alleria worked well.
We were able to get a freshly harvested one
off the coast of Nova Scotia
where the water seems to be pretty clear.
Heavy metal tests are great.
And you know, it's a great iodine source
for a lot of people that don't get daily iodine in,
along with many other trace minerals.
So it's kind of like my go-to
for a trace mineral source.
Okay, cool, cool product.
And you see a lot of kelp out there on the market.
You'll see a lot of like nori being eaten
and seaweed dishes of all different kinds.
But this is alleria is really a top shelf kind of thing.
It's really an epic seaweed.
That was cool.
It was just cool to see that.
And you've got many other things
and I'm just gonna invite everyone.
We'll give you guys the link to go
and check out Dr. Noah's entire site.
It's, if you've got somebody in your family
who's dealing with a really, you know
difficult viral condition or very difficult
like labesia, Lyme situation or an unknown condition.
This is the kind of level of herbalism
that you should get some consultation about
and really get some knowledge about.
Now, Dr. Noah, you are over there in Maui.
And so you take new patients?
I hope you do.
Cause I'll probably send some people your way soon.
We are taking new patients.
Yes.
My dad and I worked together
and we have another doc in the office.
We're busy, but we love working
with people with chronic issues.
Fungal, Lyme, viral, chronic fatigue.
Those are the types of things we love helping people with.
Fantastic.
And you're up there in Kula.
So how do people track you down?
Let's get your contact info
and make sure that people know
how to reach you at your office.
Is it, do you have a website for your office?
I do.
It's very simple.
Just drnoelibowitz.com.
That's the easiest way to follow me.
And I think my dad has a website also,
but if you just Google my name,
I come up pretty easily.
We're not hard to find.
Do you do social media at all?
I do.
I have an Instagram account
where I just like talking health with people.
Oh, cool.
You know, I'm the believer is everyone is unique.
I can have 10 people come to see me
with the same symptoms.
Every person gets different herbs.
Every person gets different dietary plans
because we're all so unique.
But, you know, you start to see patterns
and what works more often.
So I like to just give some suggestions
on social media,
which is dr and underscore Noah DC.
DC, okay.
Awesome.
Yes.
No a H just like Noah, right?
Yes.
So people remember the biblical spelling
and level which is L E B O W I T Z, right?
Correct.
Okay, cool.
Okay, we got all that information.
Fantastic.
Well, I think when I get to Maui next time,
I'm going to come track you down.
Please do.
And just overall, I want just as a,
as kind of a perspective for people out there
because people have a hard time understanding
how to put this into their lifestyle, right?
With the herbalism and the,
and changes in diet and that kind of thing.
Just a couple ideas, what recommendation
of how do you integrate herbs into your diet?
How do you integrate like a new dietary change
that has to be consistent because, you know,
let's say somebody's eating sugar every day
and they've got fungal issues.
It's not going to work out, right?
So what are your thoughts about that?
Just dealing with real people with real issues.
You know, like I mentioned before,
I mean, everyone is so unique.
Little steps do make a difference.
You know, if you dealt with fungal and parasitic issues
in people, they would get so much healthier.
But if you really want to deal
with fungal and parasitic issues,
you also need to make dietary changes.
Like you mentioned, you know,
the sugar is going to feed all of that.
So you can't ever look at anything in isolation.
You know, some people could just cut
sugaring out of their diet and they feel amazing.
Some people could just take an herb
like Malia, the neem leaf, and they feel amazing.
But a lot of the times it's kind of that combination in one
to really get them over the hump
and making changes like that and they can really do well.
Fantastic.
All right, everybody, that's Dr. Noah Lebowitz,
great doctor over there and Maui.
Track him down.
We'll get the information right here in the show notes
so you can track him down yourself.
We'll make sure you get his shop too.
They've got really great stuff and really interesting stuff
and stuff that you can rely on.
Just the fact that I can go and get the cat's claw
and just know that I can rely on it
and I know the product and I know how good it is.
The fact that I can get like Artemisia and Neua and know
it's like, hey, there's no fillers and no binders,
no crap, you know, no chemical sprays,
all that stuff, it's just awesome.
And many other things are there.
So check that out.
Thanks so much for joining us, Dr. Noah.
We'll have you on again.
Thank you, it's been an honor.
All right, you guys, signing off.
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