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little bit. Ted Kozinski, a brilliant mathematician, had been living a hermit's life in a 10 by

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12 foot cabin in the Montana woods. Uncle Ted talks in my head. Anti-technology manifesto.

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Uncle Ted talks without fear. A hooded sweatshirt, sunglasses. Critiquing the direction this whole

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society is headed. Uncle Ted talks these ideas were spreading. When touching grass and greener

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pastures, leaving behind the technology disaster. Uncle Ted talks in my head. Uncle Ted talks crystal clear.

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When it was published in 1995, a man stepped forward to identify his brother as the unabomber.

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Welcome back Ted. August 4th with the Ted's. Good morning Ted's. Hey Balderson, you gotta change your name.

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Oh shit. Correction, yeah. Man take a lap. Now you gotta take a lap. Right, right.

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Great shape. Have you run in bleachers by the end of the show? You don't get your act together. I'm too old for that. I better get my act together.

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That in my gerantic heritage says we don't run, then you just die tired. Oh shit. And we got a guest tonight for anybody that has not checked out his show, Caledonian elixir. He holds panels, but it's not your blood sportish panels.

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It's a much more in depth talks. He gets some really impressive speakers on like Jim Jatras. He's an ambassador and advisor to the Republican Party. He just had Garland Nixon on. All Steve's people are obviously familiar with Garland Nixon.

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So it's more, although the show we just did, if you missed it, destiny does pop in, but other than destiny, the rest of it is pretty civilized and more discussion style than debate style.

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I'm going to take issue with all you said there. We're 45 minutes and nobody could understand a single word that he said, but he was very, very confident in the way that he was delivering in like a mess out poodle.

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Work performed quite well. You know, it was like a five on one at one point.

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Wic was like listening to destiny at like a quarter speed. It's the same voice and it's the same cadence and it's word for word, the exact same talking points, but he's able to do it in a way that, you know, makes him doesn't sound like a meth gopher.

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And so he's a little bit more tolerable as far as that goes. Yeah.

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Do you know if I can just say something? Cause I don't want to like just talk about my show or anything like that. You were loading, you know, it's a theme of the shows like Ted Kaczynski and you were guests.

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My last guest, the last one on one was a Dr. Colin Ross who was involved in the rehabilitation of patients who were brainwashed at Allen Memorial Hospital.

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Yeah. Yeah. We knew it when Cameron, the guy who was partnering. Well, Colin Ross was doing the rehabilitation.

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He also offered the books at CIA doctors, which is an awesome book. I recommend, you know, you read that if you haven't.

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But he was my last guest. I had a one on one with and you know, listen to that guy. He's a very interesting man.

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I had started listening to that, but the link had not worked. And then I had by the time I got around to the link that worked that I had to be outside the we're in a we're in a hell of a heat dome right now.

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And I can't mess around with my watering.

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So what is it? Can you all can use three of you tell me what what's the temperature where you're where you are at the moment?

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Because it's not as warm in Scotland in Scotland. It's quite humid, but we don't have the temperatures that you guys get.

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Let me do some time.

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Yeah. Do we need to do Celsius?

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I don't understand.

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Yeah, I already told them it was it was 40.33 and guard in all their point today.

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Oh, we had it. We had it easy today, man. Like it's get currently 17.7 degrees Celsius here.

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That's what we have right now.

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The concern really is with the dew point, the humidity, measuring how much water is in the atmosphere.

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And overnight, if it doesn't cool down, then you realize you walk outside and you're sweat all your body bodily glands are just like, I'm just swimming in water right now.

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The atmosphere is water.

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Yeah, I've been been lives in a part of California that's much, much more susceptible to weather. I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area in the North Bay.

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And so it's it's always cooler, but then you get used to that and you become what I have termed California soft, which makes you incapable of going anywhere with weather.

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Because you're like, Oh, it's 75. It's hot. You know, I would, you know, yeah, like so it does ruin you, but in kind of a good way.

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Because when the rest of the planet is on fire and 100 plus degrees and where I used to live in Las Vegas, they've seen like weeks on end of 110 plus degree days and stuff like that.

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It does make you appreciate a little bit more temperate climate. Certainly.

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Yeah, we moved over here because this is much actually being as hot as it is here is kind of is pretty odd for where we live.

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We're having this weird odd heat dome where we were living over in Reading.

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That's like that's like Death Valley. Like that's literally you're talking like 44 or 45 degrees Celsius for like months in a row.

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California doesn't have too much of a high desert that you more Oregon and Washington state, but the high desert that California has kicks off right around Reading.

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Yeah, and then goes north. So even though it does have some trees and some elevation difference, it's effectively the same temperate region is like a high desert area.

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And since I live off grid, that's such a huge deal for us. Like the only thing I got cooling me right now is a fan is a box fan.

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And then also our water, like when it's over 100 degrees, you know, over 40 degrees Celsius and you're getting your water out of the ground, that water gets stingy quick when it's that hot.

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It hides and it goes all your stream starts to dry up and things.

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And so we moved over here because it's a much more temperate than it is over in Reading.

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But this week we're getting hammered, but our plants are loving it.

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Yeah. Yeah. And what are you growing now?

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We got my wife's got sunflower seed or sunflowers. I already I have already converted them into seeds in my head for eating.

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And we got about 10 different types of tomatoes, four different kinds of peppers, but we got a shit ton of both of each of those plants.

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There's probably 200 tomato plants out there and 100 100 pepper plants.

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There's a medicinal herb garden that's separate.

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And then I've got my medical cannabis garden and I grew potatoes down there and garlic also.

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Nice. Nice.

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Yeah. I had a pretty good potato turnout.

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What medical cannabis are you growing?

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You don't mind me asking.

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I ordered some chem dog and some af goo from Europe.

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And then I've got some just more local stuff.

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I've got a couple of ethos strains that I had seeds to like Mary and Barry and candy store.

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And then I've got some more local mixes.

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So it's all like an OG Runtz fucking chem dog or not chem dog.

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Gelato mix of just stuff.

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You know, I find any usually find that anything that is sweet in terms of cannabis is usually a sativa and anything that is earthy is more of an indica.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. We wanted the more old school actual skunky actual doesn't taste like the Pillsbury Doe boy just farted in your mouth.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I've been seeing more and more people talk about the degradation of cannabis over the last five to 10 years really.

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With the push for super marketable boutique type club strains.

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And there's a lot of people that again that I've seen just randomly around Twitter and stuff like that being like, Hey man, can we go back to where we had eight strains.

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They were all about 16 and a half to 21 percent THC.

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They knocked you on your ass.

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You could still get work done.

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And can we go back to that?

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Why does everything have to be a quadruple crossed 85th generation clone sparkle fart strawberry shortcake bliss cookie?

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Why?

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And I agree.

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Maybe it's just because I'm getting older.

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I don't know.

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But these new strains don't get me high and they're rolling in and claiming they're 30%.

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And I'm like, Yeah, well, it doesn't kick my ass like Kim dog does.

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I'm growing Kim dog.

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Can I relate to you an experience recently?

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I was I was taking medical cannabis, but I get it prescribed.

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So I'm not growing it over here.

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You can grow it, but you can only grow four plants.

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And if you get caught doing more than that, it's considered for commercial use.

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Interjection, my friend.

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Are you allowed to dig four six by six holes in the ground and then put each plant in those giant holes?

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No, no, no.

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Yeah, it really is.

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And so I get prescribed from cure relief, which is like a clinic over here that prescribes you that.

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And so I recently took a few capsules and we're not too strong, but I really tripped out bad on him.

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Bad on it.

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And I was with a friend and she was like, here, calm down and take some Epilem.

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Now, Epilem is an anti-epileptic benzo.

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And I was like, Oh, no, I'm not taking that.

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That's not going to do anything.

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She's like, trust me, take it.

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I took about 10 ml of that benzo.

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I was perfect.

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I was in a really good state.

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I said, how did you know that that would have tapered me down, got me down?

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And she was like, because it's a mood stabilizer and you were just panicking.

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You were having a bad experience.

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And I forgot that.

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I forgot how often that I've used cannabis and tripped out.

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You know, and I think that's what, you know, you were describing all of these new different strengths,

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but there's so many strains now that are like 30%, 35%.

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They've been crossed with everything and you take it and you're like, holy shit.

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You know, it's, I mean, I've taken LSD in the past and DMT in the past.

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And some of these edibles, these cannabis edibles too are just as strong almost.

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It's a different experience, but it still propels you into that really crazed altered state that you lose control of.

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I'm not, I'm not sure you're exact age and it's because the Scottish and the Irish don't really age slowly.

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They age all at once around the age of 63.

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And then invariably you turn into either an old baby or a spooky witch.

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And there's no, yeah, there's no, I mean, you know, like super pinched up wrinkle face or just old baby.

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You know, like you're bald and ruddy cheeked and all that kind of stuff and very few wrinkles, really.

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It was the only two way the Scots and the Irish go.

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But it seems like at least from my perspective, I'm 48 years old.

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And in my lifetime, it wasn't until the government got involved with the growing and distribution of cannabis

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that we started to hear things like cannabis induced psychosis, cannabis induced schizophrenia.

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And I can't help but the curious sort of me, you know, can't help but wonder if there's an immediate short straight line between the two.

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I mean, I have definitely had experiences of cannabis psychosis when I was young.

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And that was what I was trying to relate to you that had been such a long time.

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Fucking a fat chick is in cannabis induced psychosis.

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It's not.

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We've all been there.

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Was her name psychosis?

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Psychosis Jones.

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Yeah.

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She was from the south side of Scotland.

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Yeah, you know, I'm still there right now in a way, you know, but with my partner.

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But the thing is, I was really in a bad state.

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You know, I was at that point, you know, when your heart is racing and you're getting such paranoid thoughts about, oh my God, am I going to have a heart attack?

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And it's been a long time since I had that experience.

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You know, the last time I had that is when I was watching the Paw Cups now.

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I watched, you know, the war film.

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Martin Sheen, Marlon Brando.

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Oh yeah.

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It was phenomenal.

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And I must have smoked about 20 joints throughout the entire movie.

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And it wasn't until the movie stopped that I realised, I was like, holy shit.

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I have, where am I?

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You know, what's going on?

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I can't even recall my own identity.

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And it was like half three in the morning.

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I was like, this is not where you want to be.

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And so, you know, when I was in this state the other week with my lady friend,

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and she was like, take this Benzo.

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It'll just calm you right down.

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And it did.

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And I was like, you know what?

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I'm going to be a bit more careful in terms of the cannabis I'm using there.

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Don't want to be in that state.

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I've gotten in on the flip side.

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Steve and I have already backstage booked our tickets to Scotland just to try

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and get some weed that affects us like this.

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Right.

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So, okay.

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So, you all take that Pepsi challenge.

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So, when's the last time you had that kind of experience yourself?

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Or have you never had that where you used some cannabis and you were like, holy shit.

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I never, okay.

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The closest I really ever got was I've had like my full body humming to the point

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to where it was uncomfortable.

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But I wasn't paranoid about it because I knew what I was doing.

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I've definitely had more awkward experiences of that sort on psychedelics.

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And I don't know if it has anything to do with overall lifetime tolerance

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or something like that.

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I'm not sure.

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But yeah, the weirdest I've ever got from cannabis and it was from edibles.

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It was.

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And there's definitely a very different reaction that you have when you eat it

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as opposed to when you smoke it.

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And it's something that I think most people like grow to become aware of.

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But it's sort of a trial and error thing.

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And it's not necessarily at the forefront of your mind when you're pop

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in a couple of edibles, you know, I mean, like, oh, my body is going to

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have a completely different reaction to this.

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And it would be if I was taking a few hits or if I hit a, you know,

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a vape pin or whatever, took a long hit.

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But when you do ingest it, yeah, it's a wildly different process and

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reaction and affects you in multiple different levels.

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So I made it as close as I ever got to that.

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I made some pancakes and I put a bunch of THC oil in the pancakes.

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And I might have had a little bit of heavy hand in it because

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I was humming.

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My friend's girlfriend was in the fetal position.

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And look, I, you know, I tried to do the thing where like, hey,

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man, there's about a gram and a half of oil in this pancake.

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You should split it with two of your friends.

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But nobody listens to their fucking doctor.

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Yeah.

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And so she was like, no, I'm a bad bitch.

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I'm a fucking strong independent woman.

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I can do the, you know, and then she was, she was ruined

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and having a really bad day.

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And I felt bad to a degree, but I did try to warn you

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and you ignored me.

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You did the opposite of what my advice was.

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And now you're having a bad time, you know, and I wasn't

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warning you because I thought you were a weak person or

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anything like that.

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I gave the same warning to your dude who listened and ate a

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third of what you ate, but you had to be little jelly badass.

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And it backfired on you, you know, and so you can only

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feel bad up to a certain point.

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But I was certainly not having the best time that particular

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day.

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The last time the brother, I've got two brothers.

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Last time the brothers ballers and got together.

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I showed up and I had some killer kind bud and a nice

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bong.

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It was called a tornado bong and it would sit there and as

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you were sucking it, it actually had a carb on it.

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And if you were holding the carb, the smoke would stay

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in the bottom of the bong and just sit there and spin.

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And then as soon as you let go of the carb, it all just

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at once is a $600 bong from Germany.

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And my one brother brought some weed from Colorado

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because he was living in Colorado and they had the killer

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right then.

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And he brought a volcano vaporizer.

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And so we were vaporizing that.

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And then my other brother busts out this jar of white

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widow can of butter that was way crazy potent.

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Throughout the night, we smoked and smoked and smoked

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and vaped and vaped and vaped.

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And then we ended up eating two batches of chocolate chip

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cookies with the can of butter in them.

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And then I went home and went to sleep and I woke up

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and I mean, I can't even tell you what was going on

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any of the past hours.

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And then I woke up about 16, 18 hours later and I had

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a pee so bad and I tried to stand up and the whole

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world was spinning.

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And I was like, holy fuck, holy fuck.

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And I was damn near like sick high and I peed

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and then I went light down and I slept for probably

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another 18 hours.

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And then I got up and I was great.

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Yeah.

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That's kind of how I feel where you're

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describing that.

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You're just, you know, you feel like you're spinning

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and, you know, you just want to kind of crash out

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because, you know.

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Yeah.

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What do you guys, you know, I had a guy,

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I was talking to this guy Grant Cameron

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or you aware of Grant Cameron?

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Sounds familiar.

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He's a Canadian consciousness researcher

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and he's got a contact modality.

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He's out and, you know, he's got a chapter

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on how psychedelics are a contact modality.

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And a contact modality is like a state

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where you can alter your consciousness

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and maybe attain contact with a different

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like entity or some some shit like that.

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You know, like a demon or an alien,

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but you've got different types of contact modalities.

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You know, you could be hypnosis or yoga

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or against psychedelics.

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And we were talking about deprivation tanks

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and it had been such a long time

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since I tried a deprivation tank.

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So this sort of inspired me to do that.

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And I was in a deprivation tank last week,

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first time like 10 years.

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You guys have tried the flotation deprivation tank.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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When I lived in Vegas, I tried one.

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How was that experience?

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Trippy.

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It was.

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I don't really like feeling like I'm confined.

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So I had to get over that.

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Like I felt a little bit more boxed in

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than my comfort level would prefer.

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But once I got past that, it was really cool.

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It was.

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And I was able to just like close my eyes

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and, you know, breathe.

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Is it filled with salt?

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So you're kind of floating a little bit?

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Yeah.

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It's filled with a lot of salt.

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A lot of salt.

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It's sitting and kind of relaxed

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and kind of recline position.

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And you can float on it without trying to.

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And the magnesium is almost,

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has like a semi-narcotic reaction with your body.

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So I think that also helps you get over

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the initial fear of being,

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you know, for lack of a better word,

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mostly shut in.

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Well, people that don't know it,

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magnesium relaxes your muscles

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and then even your digestive system,

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like if you're having trouble pooping.

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Different forms.

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Different forms.

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But yeah, having trouble pooping,

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take a little magnesium

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and it'll clear you right up.

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Is that why they have to replace the water

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after every tank experience

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in the deprivation tank?

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It could definitely have something to do with it.

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People get a little.

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Well, also, do you want to bathe

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water?

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Who wants to do that?

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Well, sure.

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What I'm getting at is that

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there's like a mental preparation,

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sure, but also like a bodily preparation.

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So you might not want to go to some Chinese

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buffet three days in a row

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and then go to the tank

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when you're all filled up.

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And that's sort of what we're getting at

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with the nervousness

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and the panic attacks.

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A lot of that has to do

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with the gut biome too.

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Yeah, a cookie and a banana.

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It's like, well, Steve's uptown now.

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He drinks boba teas.

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He quit drinking monsters.

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What?

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I've yet to have a boba tea.

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I have yet to have one.

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He had one.

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I've seen it.

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He asked for no bobas.

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When did that happen?

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It was probably like eight months ago.

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No bobas in the boba tea.

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So I had tea.

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Yeah.

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I've had tea before, certainly.

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Was it like a matcha?

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It was boba tea, but he said hold the bobas.

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Okay.

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We'll run with that.

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I have no memory.

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And he had to argue with the checkout lady

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for quite some time to get her to understand

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he wanted no bobas in his boba tea.

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That's actually a skit on YouTube.

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Yeah.

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It looks like she's doing well.

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She's still hosting cannabis events

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and all that kind of stuff.

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Yeah.

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Thank you very much tea leaves for the

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the super chat.

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I haven't talked to her in a bit,

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but she seems to be

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seems to be crushing it.

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Excellent.

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Yeah.

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I hopefully too shall soon be crushing it

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and we will need to start meeting up

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and getting to know a few of these people.

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Yeah.

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Maybe you'll get to take one of those

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robo taxis while you're there.

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Yeah, I'd say.

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Absolutely not.

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Get a pass on that.

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Not a fan of the Zooks.

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Dude, it wasn't Zooks.

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It was what's the other one?

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What's the one down in San Francisco, Steve?

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Waymo.

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Waymo's.

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Fucking Brian and I drove down to San Francisco

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and of course we're in my F 350, you know,

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with the with the fucking oversized

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turbo and the fucking 73 diesel

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and the fucking, you know, six speed

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and the tires like this, you know,

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and we're fucking rolling down there

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and also all these little cars

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with all these gadgets on top of

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what the fuck was that?

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It could have been a Google Maps

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vehicle.

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No, they were Waymo's.

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Yeah.

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And they're everywhere.

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They are everywhere.

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Yeah, they'll drive you right through

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a police shooting.

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They'll all go and meet up on the

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same street and then create

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their own traffic jam.

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It's awesome.

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Is the last bulletproof?

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Is that an add on or is that just

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standard on these vehicles?

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No, not bulletproof.

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OK.

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Because it is the Wild West of

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driverless vehicles.

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We did a story

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a while ago

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where a Waymo

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snitched on

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a group of like

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14 and 15 year olds

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because they had a squirt gun

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that they were squirting people

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with.

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So the Waymo said they had a

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weapon and it stopped.

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It locked them in

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and it wouldn't open the doors

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until law enforcement showed up.

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It also said that they were

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drinking in the Waymo

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and they were.

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They were drinking

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power.

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They were drinking power.

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And the Waymo

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says America.

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We drank Gatorade.

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The third world operator

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of the Waymo

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determined that the power aid

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was in fact an alcoholic

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beverage.

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And so between

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the water gun

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and the power aid they locked

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these kids in the Waymo

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until the cops showed up.

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The cops hauled them out

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because they were responding

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to a weapon

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and drunk teenagers

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and they were

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the cops were ready to dance

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man.

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And the kids are like what the

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fuck is going on right now?

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Yeah.

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And then it took like another

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couple of hours and of course

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because the Waymo's are supposed

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to be autonomous.

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You're not supposed to know

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that there's a call center

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in Bangladesh that's actually

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operating them.

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There's no culpability,

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there's no algorithm a little bit.

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And hey, thanks for informing

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and better making the

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product that we give you better.

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Super.

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Fuck off kids.

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We don't care about you.

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Lucky you didn't get shot.

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It's interesting to note these

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zooks are

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a Amazon company.

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Remember we did that story of

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we remember that story we did

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like six weeks ago where the

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cops decided that a

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chip bag was a gun or A.I. did.

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Hold on I gotta take this.

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Yeah.

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And you could potentially lose

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your life to law enforcement

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over a bag of chips

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because the robot

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misidentified it.

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You can get hauled out of your

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vehicle at gunpoint because

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the flock camera didn't

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correctly read one letter

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of your license plate.

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Spicy cheetos

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could get you in trouble.

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Yeah.

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So the thing with these zooks

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are and the news story here

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is that they contain

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no steering wheel,

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no brake pedal.

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There's no ability for anyone

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inside the vehicle to control

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the vehicle at all.

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It's a horseless carriage.

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Definitely.

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And you're sitting

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back and forth.

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So when you get in there

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the thing can be going forward

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but you have your back to it.

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So you're facing

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and you might get motion sickness

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if you sit that way depending on

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or you might feel like you're

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seven years old again

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and you're in the way back

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of the family station wagon.

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That's another possibility.

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I think that's the nostalgia

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we're going for.

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Well here's a clip

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most recent clip from July 30th

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I think in 2026

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AP reporting on a Zooks.

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The story was

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about a year ago they were

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approved could not pay for them.

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It was just a trial run so it was

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there's no money transacted.

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I think now they're starting

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to accept money

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kind of maybe a tap to ride thing.

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Not quite sure how they got it.

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Our approach is

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we want innovation to succeed

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as long as that innovation

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can be pursued appropriately and safely.

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The Vehicles Safety Act

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does give the ability of the agency

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to grant an exemption to

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the developer.

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In this instance Zooks

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the vehicle that has no manual controls

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no mirrors

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and the cabin configuration

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passengers facing itself

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very different innovative design.

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They were able to demonstrate

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to the agency

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that their vehicle as a design

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features for instance the braking system

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that's at least as safe

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as a compliant braking system.

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Really our overarching concern

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is there was not any data

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or testing results presented

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that demonstrated that

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the autonomous driving system

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that was going to be controlling

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this vehicle could operate safety

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at all.

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So they don't have any data yet

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which is why they've been

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approved to do a trial run

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to collect the data as

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the human guinea pigs

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are subjecting to this test.

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So if you get into

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Zooks

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what rights are you waving

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as a human guinea pig?

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What rights are you waving?

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Well you're I mean

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you're ostensibly giving up

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your third

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fourth

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fifth

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and ninth amendment rights

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by getting in there

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possibly your first amendment rights

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and according to terms of service

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that nobody reads

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you may be violating

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the second amendment

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by getting in one

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if you have

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a firearm that you carry with you

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I don't know what their rules are

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I don't know if you can have

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an actual gun inside one of those

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Horselesshurst is a nice way

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of putting it.

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They're realistically

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the Zooks

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are more like

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cable-less cable cars

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because they have

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a limited range

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of transportation

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they're usually only going one direction

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they don't make a lot of turns

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it is more like a cable car

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type thing right now

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it doesn't mean it won't stay that way

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but yeah

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yeah so I get

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Horselesshurst is a good way of putting it

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but also yeah cable-less cable car

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I think is

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the most accurate way to describe it

35:28.470 --> 35:30.180
It feels like a public

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or rather a private

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public transportation

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meaning that

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the route might be from the airport

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to the Las Vegas sphere

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and then back to the airport

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so it might have a predefined route

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it's not going to be like an Uber

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or Lyft where it will take you wherever you want to go

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yeah and from the airport to the sphere

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is like a total of three turns

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that's a long walk

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in Las Vegas

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for a lot of tourists

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it's all about comfort

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and also it's only you and your party

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so you're not going to have strangers on there

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a lot of people didn't like

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the fact that in Minnesota

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when we were developing the light rail

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that it was open to the public

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so you would ride the light rail

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with all the other twins fans

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and maybe they don't like the Minnesota twins

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maybe they don't like you

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maybe they want to fight you

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I'll tell you though man

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some of the funnest times that I ever had

36:28.930 --> 36:32.590
were taking the drinking train

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from the Santa Cruz mountains

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up to San Francisco

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for a Giants game

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or into Oakland for an A's game

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because Caltrain will do that

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and you're on the train

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with all of the other fans

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and everybody's partying

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on the train

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and there are definitely

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like sections of the train

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where they don't enforce

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an alcohol policy

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and holy crap

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is it a movable Mardi Gras

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on that bitch

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just laughing realizing that

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ZOX OVOX

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basically anti-Zooks guy

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in the username there

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the Z's, the O's and the X's

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sorry about curiosity guys

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what time can you no longer buy alcohol

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where you are

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because over here in Scotland

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10 o'clock is the shut off

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what is it over there

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off sale

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is usually 10 o'clock

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on sale

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except for the bars that have on sale

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off sale they can sell you

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moves till 2 in the morning

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in most states I've been in

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at any time

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I don't know man

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if it's a 24 hour establishment

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like if you walk into a grocery store

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or something like that

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they don't stop you from

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buying alcohol no matter what time it is

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if it's

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a restaurant

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Monday through Thursday

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it's usually

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10 o'clock last call

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maybe 11 o'clock last call

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and then bars

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it's either 2 a.m.

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or 4 a.m.

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I think there's a few bars

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in San Francisco

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that only close

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between 5 and 6 a.m.

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so they can do a quick sweep

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and mop

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and then they reopen

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I think it's 2 a.m.

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bars in Minnesota

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I don't think I've been to a bar

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since the 90s

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oh man

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to survive

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you need to serve alcohol

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you need to have liquor license

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as a restaurant in general

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needing to have liquor license to stay open

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so whether or not

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that's considered a bar

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to some families

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any place that serves alcohol

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is considered a bar

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I went to the craziest

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little neighborhood dive bar

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a month and a half ago

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or something like that

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my

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my girl was at a baby shower

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down the road

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and I just wanted to watch

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a World Cup game

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and so I'm like okay

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well who's going to be open

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1130 in the morning

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and it's going to have

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World Cup on TV

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sports bar dive bar

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something like that

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and so the closest establishment

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to where the baby shower was

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was a house

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and there's apartment building

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on one side houses

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in a mostly residential neighborhood

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and I walk in

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and 160 pound

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yellow lab

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greets me at the door

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and I hear really good music

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coming out of the jukebox

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and I'm like alright

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well this might not suck

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it might not

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but it was

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I mean just a degenerate

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freaking residential dive bar

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there was a drunk

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meth chick

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it was her birthday

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and she was trying to show

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her fucking

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saggy fucking flabby titties

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and stuff like that

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everyone was

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it was lovely

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I highly recommend

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don't know the name of it

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I see you've got an instrument behind you

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what is it?

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it's a mandolin

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a mandolin, I play the shamisen

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and it's quite similar to a mandolin

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it is a stringed instrument

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but it's also a percussive instrument

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because you hit it with a

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you hit the dal which is a bass

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with a bachi which is like a

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a plectrum

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but it's a plectrum that looks like a wallpaper scraper

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but I've heard it compared to a mandolin before

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and I was just wondering

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yeah this is

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it might be a little

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a little out of tune

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quite good

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but it sounds better with a plectrum too

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I just don't have the

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and it really is

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it's a way fatter pick

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for a mandolin

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than you would typically use for

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for a guitar I do have

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it's just out of frame

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but with guitar over here too

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how much does your mandolin cost?

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you know what I found this one

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via Facebook Marketplace

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and I think it was a hundred bucks

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that's good

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I have had much nicer

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mandolins in my day

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and the same Facebook Marketplace

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shows me all kinds of high-end stuff

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I'll never be able to buy

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all day every day

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so you know

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a professionally set up

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very nice one could run you

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3500 to 10k

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but

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for what I'm using it for

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this is absolutely fantastic

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the Vashami Sunabot

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costs

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about £2,000

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which is probably about $3,000

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and even the Batchy

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which is made of tortoise shell

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costs like £250

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which is again about $400

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so it's an expensive instrument

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expensive and you can get

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cheaper ones too

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made of plastic

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but we don't produce that sound

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you know what you're looking for

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yeah no that's a spruce top

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maple bag

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I mean it's what you want

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it's definitely lower

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lower end

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it's made by Washburn

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that does typically

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very serviceable

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acoustic instruments

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definitely not top of the line

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by any stretch of the imagination

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but if you're just banging around on it

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and trying to have fun

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not make a living out of it

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totally serviceable

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I mean if you're just having fun

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it sounded good

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so whether it's $100

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or $5,000 if you can't play it

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it's probably going to sound like shit

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but you know how to play it

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so it sounds good

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and I always had that fantasy

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of being like an itinerant

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banjo or shamisen player

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you know like a busker

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who made his oven just playing

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playing in the street corners

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because I was thinking to myself

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that must be a very humbling experience

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yeah

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I've been

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an itinerant human being

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before in my life

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and I have many times

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hung out across the street

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from a bar

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and stuff like that

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you know

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it's you versus the entire world

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and you're seeing what you can earn

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from having an open guitar case

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it's an interesting experiment

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man it really is

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because over in Japan

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most people who were playing the shamisen

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at the turn of the 20th century

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were disabled

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so it was usually people who were blind

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or gaseous

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they would play it because they couldn't

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earn a living anywhere else

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you know no one would want to employ

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a blind person or a deaf person

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so if they would either do a massage

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or they would take up

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an instrument like the Sanjun or the shamisen

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but yeah

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I always

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had a fondness for like the banjo, the mandolin

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the ukulele, the shamisen

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kind of stuff

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yeah I love stringed instruments man

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I really do

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it's an interesting guy

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who lives in California

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who is really good at

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the ukulele

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and the sanjun

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and the mandolin

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and the shamisen

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and he sells them out of there

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his name's Kai Laba

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and have you heard of him?

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yeah I've heard of him

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how are you familiar with Kai Laba?

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because I've been involved in

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live music

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and string instruments

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and stuff like that

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since I was a low kid

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people who are

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really good instrument makers

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you just

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hear about over the years

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and people who are

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very very skilled craftsmen

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come with a

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lore instrument

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that they produce

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yeah he's a craftsman

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he makes his shamisen stuff

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and he's excellent at playing it

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and he's excellent at designing them

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and

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because the original shamisen

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were made with cat skin

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and

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when you're out playing your shamisen

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and it starts to rain

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the cat skin's just

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it's going to get wet

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and it's going to damage your instrument

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so you want that fine

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synthetic

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skin

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and he's really good

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at making that dial

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and that skin

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and just put them together

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and the guy is brilliant on the mandolin

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and brilliant on the shamisen

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Could I hear the name

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of the artist in American?

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Caleb?

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Yeah

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Yeah

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Steve, can you translate to American?

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Tay-Lavin

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Miklop

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Tay-Lavin

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Bell

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Oh, shit

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I'm going to have to

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I'm going to have to look it up

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for the spelling

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Right

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and I just need the English

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American pronunciation

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because it sounds so

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political

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and I just get hypnotized

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and I'm like

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I can't remember the name of the artist

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but I know there's something called a shamisen

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a shamisen

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Do you mean the spelling of a shamisen

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or the spelling of a musician?

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The name of the musician, yeah, the artist

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K-Y-L-E-A-B-B-O-T

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Kyle, okay

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Yeah

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Yeah

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He runs an organization

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Coppacito

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out in California

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I'm going to do that in American

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B-A-C-H-I-D-O

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C-H

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Okay, I think that helps

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Yeah, it's a Kyle Abbott

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Abbott

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Abbott

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Abbott, okay

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Got it

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Yeah, speaking without an accent

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as a Minnesota broadcaster

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is very important to me

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and I know that we're trying to reach over

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The shamisen is

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Yeah, I apologize

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No, it's alright

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The shamisen is a really interesting instrument

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It's only got three strings on it

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Yeah

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Or at least the ones that I've seen

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Yeah, straight

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And

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Mandolin is eight strings

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but, you know, four strings doubled up

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So it's, you know, effectively

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a very similar instrument

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the main difference being, you know, octave

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and a couple of different, you know, double up strings

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and stuff like that

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But yeah, there's

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similar tonality

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And yeah, you know, it's a

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One of the

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One of the

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interesting things about the shamisen is

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it's got a Sawari there

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and you can create a resonance with the Sawari

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that produces the oriental sound

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and you don't hit the dowel, the bass

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with the batchy on the same position

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So you switch to the more solid part of the frame

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to the drum back and forth

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and it produces a different, you know, a sound

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So that's one thing to bear in mind

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when you're playing the shamisen, you know

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And at least with the shamisen

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it's supposed to be a semi-percussive instrument

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Yeah

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It kind of does bug me

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when I hear people pick up like a guitar

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and then they're just beating all over it

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and occasionally hitting strings

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But with the shamisen, you're supposed to do that

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It sounds great

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Yeah, yeah

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And you can get different styles of play

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like the Minio

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And the Minio is just like folk music

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You know, like you're playing there

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It's like Japanese folk music

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And then you get Zoguro style

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And Zoguro is when you're doing this

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improv solo play

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We call that jazz

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Yeah

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Yeah, jazz is good too

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You know

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Especially with that, you know

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I was watching a film called

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Angel Heart recently

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That's a good one

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Yeah

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Robert De Niro

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and this other guy's name

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Monkey Bar

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It has the hand of glory

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and a lot of occult symbolism

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Yeah, yeah

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And I think that's set in the 50s

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and it's got a lot of blues

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and jazz in that music

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in that film

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It's kind of a hard-boiled occult

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detective story with an interesting twist

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And it's quite a gnostic film too

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It's about someone discovering who they are

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Realising that they're damned

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that they've made a deal with the devil

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There's another interesting film

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that's quite gnostic

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similar to that

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and that's Jacob's Ladder

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Have you seen that?

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I was going to mention altered states

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as well

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We were talking about the isolation chambers

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deprivation

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training

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and the altered states of consciousness

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and the early studies done there

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Can we go back to

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You said you had an interview

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with a very important like

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Grant Cameron

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Yes, Grant Cameron

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And there was a book recently published

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about contact modalities

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What was the name of the book?

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Contact mode

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I've got it right here

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Just give me a moment to

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Beautiful

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Contact modalities

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These are the keys to the universe

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There it is

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He's an interesting guy, Grant

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He's part of that old school

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of consciousness researchers

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and ufologists

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like Whitley Streber

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I've had him one

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We didn't really talk about ufo

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It was more about

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his book Contact Modalities

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and his consciousness research

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He's an interesting guy

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I also spoke recently with

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Desta Barnaby

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and she works with Grant

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and she wrote a book called

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The Gate Programme for Children

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She was in the Gate Programme as a child

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and she also is up in Montreal

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in the Memorial

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and she relates her experience

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in the Gate Programme

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and all the different overlaps

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I was like a pipeline

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to project Stargate

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and the gateway process

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and stuff like that

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She's an interesting woman

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The Canadian border

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Canadian government

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US government

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wasn't that how some of the MKLTRA documents

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were revealed

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because there was something that happened

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to someone in Canada

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and it needed to be discussed

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and that sort of opened the gate

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to some of the MKLTRA

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and similar consciousness study programs

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that the US government

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I wish I had more memories

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of being in the Gate Programme

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I don't, most of that's just

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a block

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What do you remember?

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I remember the pink drink

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I remember the headphones

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I remember the flashcards

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I remember us not being

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like the windows

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being like papered over

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or

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blinds drawn at all times

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Sometimes we would be

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in the elementary school

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sometimes we'd go off-site for it

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but it's all

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mostly flashes

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and stuff like that

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little snapshots of memory

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rather than a complete

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start, middle and memory

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Yeah and there is that

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interesting overlap

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with gate and site phenomena

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and what Desda was arguing

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but that was the purpose

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of the Gate Programme

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to filter out children

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who were maybe a little

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intellectually gifted

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but what they were really looking for

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was the kids who had disabilities

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You know?

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Almost a precognitive thing

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so my experience was

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with other students

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like first and second grade

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who were in a gifted

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and talented sort of program

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and

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for some reason I remember

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I was friends with them

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so I was invited as one of their guests

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I think at times they were able

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to bring out a friend with them

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so we would leave the normal classroom

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and in the middle of the school

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in another room

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that didn't have any windows in it

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where they had lots of

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puzzle solving type

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toys and things

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that different corners where people could just sit

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and read alone

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a lot of it was based off of flash cards

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you know like

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trivia questions

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so there would be like these thick books

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of trivia questions

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but then some of it got into

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mathematics

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and multiplication times tables

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but they would be on flash cards

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and we would

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in our actual classroom

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we would line up

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and there would be

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one person standing next to another person

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and it would be a dual

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and then the teacher would pull out a flash card

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the first person say it right

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would go to the next person

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and then you'd see how many times they would win

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and they'd be like

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they defeated six of their classmates

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so the record might be six

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and they could go around

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I bring that up because of the nature

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the flash card kind of being shuffled

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and random

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the teacher doesn't see what the flash card is

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the student sees it

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but there's this moment of

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as the cards being pulled out

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before it's clearly visible

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the student would guess the number

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and oftentimes

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over 50% get it correct

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so there was sort of

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this guessing

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but then the question was

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because it seemed to be statistically above

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the norm

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was it precognitive

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yeah

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yeah and

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I mean this even

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you're right

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it does even predate

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Stargate, it does predate Gate

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I had this conversation

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with Whitley

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and he grew up beside

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Randolph Air Force Base

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and he was put in this sort of

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he wasn't the Gate Programme

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it was before Gate

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but they put him in this

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this

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it was like a Skinner Box

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and it was

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like a Skinner Box deprivation chamber

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sort of thing

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and they did a lot of the Gate

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kind of stuff with him then too

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and his health really declined

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as a kid

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and then his parents

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pulled him out

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however what is interesting is it struggled

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and that's the paperclip scientist

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was also at

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Randolph Air Force Base at the same time

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as Whitley was being tested on

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so it creates for another overlap

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with where the paperclip scientists

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were the ones that initiated all these

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child experiments you know

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and did they know

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about the whole Psy Phenomena

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before the CIA

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and the North Koreans know that were

57:42.660 --> 57:45.000
privy to it

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and it does seem with

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the public education system

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in America

57:53.020 --> 57:55.040
when we got what they call the

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Scantron Technologies

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meaning like a multiple choice test

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they were able to

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test a wider portion

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and track learning

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I think a lot of that was tied into

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gifted and talented

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accelerated learning programs

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and what I'm describing is

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that it spilled out

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I think they had

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special teachers who had special programs

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and it was like a trial sort of

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Petri dish for education styles

58:25.580 --> 58:26.260
and things

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but a lot of the gifted

58:28.520 --> 58:30.820
and talented accelerated learning

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Odyssey of the Mind

58:32.180 --> 58:35.160
there's a few different programs

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some of them were extra curricular

58:36.840 --> 58:38.720
some of them took place during the day

58:38.720 --> 58:40.720
but a lot of them were

58:40.720 --> 58:42.080
closely monitored

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and the data, the reports

58:44.740 --> 58:46.000
I think were all compiled

58:46.820 --> 58:48.400
in a very interesting way

58:48.400 --> 58:50.160
and that's kind of leading up to

58:50.160 --> 58:51.920
in a federal level

58:51.920 --> 58:53.460
the No Child Left Behind Act

58:55.100 --> 58:57.300
Yeah I mean you're really getting into

58:57.300 --> 58:59.280
what is happening

58:59.280 --> 59:01.120
taking place or what took place

59:01.120 --> 59:01.900
in the United States

59:01.900 --> 59:05.000
I heard Steve

59:05.000 --> 59:06.920
he was discussing how he

59:07.740 --> 59:09.680
may have been involved in it too

59:10.540 --> 59:12.460
it really was widespread

59:12.460 --> 59:14.120
in the Anglo-American world

59:14.120 --> 59:16.060
I mean I wasn't familiar with

59:16.060 --> 59:17.360
GATE until

59:18.000 --> 59:19.360
about half a year ago

59:19.360 --> 59:20.960
and it was really serendipity

59:20.960 --> 59:22.580
my friend turned around and said to me

59:22.580 --> 59:24.860
listen have you heard this thing called the GATE program

59:24.860 --> 59:25.640
I was like no

59:25.640 --> 59:27.140
he showed me a video on YouTube

59:27.140 --> 59:29.980
he's like do you remember what happened to us

59:29.980 --> 59:32.540
I don't remember a pink drink or anything

59:32.540 --> 59:34.240
but the cards that you described

59:34.240 --> 59:35.720
and the earphones that kind of stuff

59:35.720 --> 59:36.560
I was like you know what

59:36.560 --> 59:37.820
that rings a bell

59:37.820 --> 59:39.900
the next thing I know I'm listening to

59:39.900 --> 59:42.160
this woman called Katie Page

59:42.160 --> 59:43.540
talking about biofeedback

59:43.540 --> 59:45.720
Desta Barnaby talking about her

59:46.460 --> 59:48.000
self being in a library

59:49.520 --> 59:51.480
after she's shown these cards

59:51.480 --> 59:52.520
and giving the headphones

59:52.520 --> 59:54.180
and she feels like her body

59:54.180 --> 59:57.080
or spirit or mind is leaving the body

59:57.080 --> 59:58.560
and she's looking down on herself

59:58.560 --> 01:00:01.340
from the ceiling of the library

01:00:01.340 --> 01:00:02.980
looking down on her own body

01:00:02.980 --> 01:00:05.880
I'm like holy shit this is really interesting

01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:07.440
I've got to talk to this woman

01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:09.900
and then I find out

01:00:09.900 --> 01:00:12.080
it's throughout the entire Anglo-American world

01:00:12.080 --> 01:00:13.420
Canada, the United States

01:00:13.420 --> 01:00:13.800
Britain

01:00:14.420 --> 01:00:15.880
I'm like how many people

01:00:16.240 --> 01:00:18.220
you know we're on these gifted children's programs

01:00:18.220 --> 01:00:19.900
and then how far did it go

01:00:20.420 --> 01:00:22.320
with you know that pipeline

01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.740
into the gateway project

01:00:24.740 --> 01:00:26.720
or Stargate you know

01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:29.660
because the Home Monroe Institute thing

01:00:29.660 --> 01:00:31.200
I don't know if you've ever tried

01:00:31.200 --> 01:00:32.620
the Monroe tapes

01:00:32.620 --> 01:00:33.800
the gateway process

01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:35.540
Yes it was the binaural beats

01:00:35.540 --> 01:00:36.680
where you wear headphones

01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:39.180
and the sound will go from the left

01:00:39.180 --> 01:00:40.560
and then it'll go to the right

01:00:40.560 --> 01:00:42.980
and that's sort of where

01:00:43.560 --> 01:00:46.220
they had a box

01:00:46.220 --> 01:00:48.200
that would generate the tones

01:00:48.200 --> 01:00:50.520
it was used on

01:00:50.520 --> 01:00:52.560
every student as

01:00:52.560 --> 01:00:55.420
sound like a test for deafness

01:00:55.420 --> 01:00:58.120
so all students would be tested

01:00:58.120 --> 01:00:59.500
on hearing ability

01:00:59.500 --> 01:01:01.800
on vision ability

01:01:02.560 --> 01:01:04.240
they'd be measured for height

01:01:04.240 --> 01:01:07.380
and then there was also like this

01:01:08.700 --> 01:01:09.740
scoliosis test

01:01:09.740 --> 01:01:11.140
where I think

01:01:11.140 --> 01:01:13.660
begin in like sixth grade locker rooms

01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:15.160
you'd take your shirt off

01:01:15.160 --> 01:01:16.060
and you'd bend over

01:01:16.060 --> 01:01:18.360
and they'd measure the curvature of your spine

01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:19.680
and say you might have scoliosis

01:01:19.680 --> 01:01:22.340
you might have a spine issue

01:01:22.340 --> 01:01:24.120
so a lot of it was

01:01:24.120 --> 01:01:26.460
the health records

01:01:26.460 --> 01:01:28.420
that were kept

01:01:28.420 --> 01:01:29.260
and I wonder

01:01:29.260 --> 01:01:31.100
if they were all assembled

01:01:31.100 --> 01:01:33.340
so there's a lot of statistics

01:01:33.340 --> 01:01:35.660
a lot of data points that were gathered

01:01:35.660 --> 01:01:36.940
on bulk of school students

01:01:37.640 --> 01:01:38.800
see when you

01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:41.720
how often did you use

01:01:41.720 --> 01:01:43.040
the lemon law

01:01:43.660 --> 01:01:44.060
recordings

01:01:45.420 --> 01:01:46.640
as an adult

01:01:46.640 --> 01:01:48.860
choosing to listen to them

01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:51.900
they were

01:01:52.540 --> 01:01:53.800
something I was able to

01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:54.460
find

01:01:55.200 --> 01:01:57.300
they had been put online more recently

01:01:57.300 --> 01:01:58.900
it was the last maybe five years

01:01:58.900 --> 01:02:03.360
yeah I used a bit of them

01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:05.800
I found it was interesting

01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:07.820
but then going on

01:02:07.820 --> 01:02:09.040
YouTube and discovering

01:02:09.040 --> 01:02:11.020
that other people had created

01:02:11.020 --> 01:02:13.520
more effective sort of

01:02:13.520 --> 01:02:15.520
binaural beats that had a higher

01:02:15.520 --> 01:02:17.100
audio fidelity

01:02:17.100 --> 01:02:21.220
and then there are some websites

01:02:21.220 --> 01:02:22.860
I found that do generate

01:02:22.860 --> 01:02:24.180
the tones

01:02:25.140 --> 01:02:26.680
in your web browser

01:02:27.940 --> 01:02:29.500
there are a lot of people

01:02:29.500 --> 01:02:31.060
who warn against this sort of thing

01:02:31.060 --> 01:02:31.720
you can't live a hemisphere

01:02:33.240 --> 01:02:33.980
synchronization

01:02:33.980 --> 01:02:36.620
but it can produce

01:02:36.620 --> 01:02:38.360
some unwanted effects

01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:42.280
a lot of people on the right

01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:44.860
believe it can manifest

01:02:44.860 --> 01:02:47.060
kind of demonic experiences

01:02:47.680 --> 01:02:48.240
but

01:02:48.980 --> 01:02:50.620
what do you think about that

01:02:52.060 --> 01:02:52.800
well

01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:55.200
yeah so in my

01:02:55.200 --> 01:02:56.020
experience

01:02:56.020 --> 01:02:58.120
and just playing around with them

01:02:58.120 --> 01:03:00.220
in my own time as an amateur

01:03:00.220 --> 01:03:02.220
some of them did

01:03:03.740 --> 01:03:04.340
create

01:03:04.340 --> 01:03:06.120
in my visual field

01:03:06.120 --> 01:03:08.260
like I don't know

01:03:08.260 --> 01:03:09.780
before the cones or the rods

01:03:09.780 --> 01:03:10.760
you know when you get the little

01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:13.080
visual artifacts in your eyes

01:03:13.080 --> 01:03:15.040
where you might see little squiggly lines

01:03:15.040 --> 01:03:18.420
it would begin to produce

01:03:18.420 --> 01:03:19.760
kind of like

01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:21.940
geometric crystal

01:03:21.940 --> 01:03:23.880
and sort of stuff

01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:25.580
over the vision

01:03:25.580 --> 01:03:26.680
so it would be like

01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:28.380
at the point

01:03:28.380 --> 01:03:30.380
like at the lens of the eye

01:03:31.640 --> 01:03:33.360
so it would begin to produce

01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:34.760
sort of those visual artifacts

01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.320
also listening to cocktail twins

01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:39.480
while it's about terrain while walking outside

01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.400
I also do see I don't know if they're like

01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:43.200
quaternions or the bubbles in the air

01:03:43.200 --> 01:03:44.440
but it is at the

01:03:45.700 --> 01:03:46.600
point where

01:03:47.240 --> 01:03:49.340
it seems to be in the field of vision

01:03:49.340 --> 01:03:50.860
within my eyesight

01:03:51.620 --> 01:03:53.760
itself between the eye and the brain

01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:55.080
interpreting something

01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:58.400
yeah and it's interesting

01:03:58.400 --> 01:03:59.760
because we're talking about

01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:01.020
the deprivation tanks

01:04:02.220 --> 01:04:04.100
too and so we're going into

01:04:04.100 --> 01:04:05.760
like all of this kind of

01:04:06.380 --> 01:04:07.660
you know techniques to all our

01:04:07.660 --> 01:04:09.100
consciousness and

01:04:09.700 --> 01:04:11.120
you know the first time

01:04:11.120 --> 01:04:13.140
well not the first time the second time I went

01:04:13.140 --> 01:04:15.920
into a deprivation tank I used cannabis

01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:17.820
the third time I went into

01:04:17.820 --> 01:04:19.460
a deprivation tank I used LSD

01:04:19.460 --> 01:04:21.420
the fourth time I went in

01:04:21.420 --> 01:04:23.320
I used DMT kind of

01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:24.940
and I was inspired by

01:04:24.940 --> 01:04:27.320
William Hart's altered states

01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:28.960
that you were describing earlier

01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:31.240
excellent film you know I didn't

01:04:31.240 --> 01:04:33.200
get propelled into this you know

01:04:33.200 --> 01:04:35.610
didn't regress into a proto-hominid

01:04:35.940 --> 01:04:37.180
and then into a sing

01:04:37.180 --> 01:04:39.560
become a singularity that was a bit

01:04:39.560 --> 01:04:41.940
extreme it didn't

01:04:41.940 --> 01:04:43.100
happen but

01:04:43.100 --> 01:04:44.760
you know it is

01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:47.180
a powerful experience

01:04:47.180 --> 01:04:49.340
when you go in taking something like

01:04:49.340 --> 01:04:51.260
DMT you know you're like

01:04:51.260 --> 01:04:53.420
have you tried it

01:04:53.420 --> 01:04:55.740
and I would say a sober state

01:04:55.740 --> 01:04:56.620
without any

01:04:57.340 --> 01:04:59.440
assistance of any sort of chemicals or natural

01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.040
and then just done

01:05:01.040 --> 01:05:03.740
a breathing like a pranayama

01:05:03.740 --> 01:05:04.920
or a wim Hof

01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:07.360
the first time

01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:09.340
I wasn't on anything

01:05:09.340 --> 01:05:11.200
and the last time

01:05:11.200 --> 01:05:13.240
which was last week same

01:05:14.560 --> 01:05:16.100
I've only used

01:05:16.100 --> 01:05:17.120
from five times

01:05:18.020 --> 01:05:19.400
the whole breathing

01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:21.060
I did undertake the whole

01:05:21.060 --> 01:05:22.020
breathing exercises

01:05:22.720 --> 01:05:23.360
because

01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:27.260
you know I was trying to calm

01:05:27.260 --> 01:05:29.120
myself to still my mind

01:05:29.120 --> 01:05:31.420
because I found when my eyes were closed

01:05:31.420 --> 01:05:33.000
for a certain

01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:34.680
period of time I was

01:05:34.680 --> 01:05:36.820
I was manifesting stuff I was

01:05:36.820 --> 01:05:38.800
seeing like visuals

01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:40.720
even though everything was dark

01:05:40.720 --> 01:05:42.820
nothing too extreme

01:05:42.820 --> 01:05:45.480
however it did

01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:47.420
cause a little bit of anxiety

01:05:48.040 --> 01:05:49.540
so I was trying to

01:05:49.540 --> 01:05:51.680
steady my breathing and calm

01:05:51.680 --> 01:05:53.340
myself and just like you know you get nothing

01:05:53.340 --> 01:05:54.840
to worry about this will be over

01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:57.360
in 30 minutes you know

01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:57.720
so

01:05:59.540 --> 01:06:00.980
but again it was the film

01:06:00.980 --> 01:06:03.200
for me all the states that really

01:06:03.780 --> 01:06:05.480
you know drew me into this

01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:07.560
I was like what's going on here with this guy

01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:09.700
this is interesting stuff

01:06:12.500 --> 01:06:13.460
who was

01:06:13.460 --> 01:06:15.120
that film based on again was it

01:06:15.120 --> 01:06:15.840
John C. Lily

01:06:17.420 --> 01:06:19.160
I think that was one of the

01:06:19.160 --> 01:06:21.040
public figures that we know

01:06:21.660 --> 01:06:22.800
John C. Lily

01:06:23.460 --> 01:06:25.500
yeah I'm sure it was based on John C. Lily's

01:06:25.500 --> 01:06:26.880
work with deprivation tanks

01:06:27.460 --> 01:06:29.380
again those are the public names that

01:06:29.380 --> 01:06:31.320
we would know about I don't know

01:06:32.220 --> 01:06:33.120
private or

01:06:33.120 --> 01:06:34.440
confidential or

01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:35.700
classified information

01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:37.520
yeah

01:06:38.540 --> 01:06:41.820
have you ever checked out any John C. Lily's

01:06:41.820 --> 01:06:42.840
work? Oh yes

01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:45.160
simulations of God

01:06:45.820 --> 01:06:47.360
yep echo

01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:48.420
the

01:06:48.420 --> 01:06:51.280
coincidence control center I'm missing

01:06:51.280 --> 01:06:53.400
the full acronym of the

01:06:53.400 --> 01:06:54.480
ecco

01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:57.320
and then to the point where

01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:58.500
Sega

01:06:58.500 --> 01:07:01.340
the video game company produced a game

01:07:01.340 --> 01:07:03.660
based off of a dolphin calling the dolphin

01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:05.900
echo the dolphin

01:07:07.340 --> 01:07:08.680
yeah it was a classic

01:07:08.680 --> 01:07:10.420
yeah definitely

01:07:10.420 --> 01:07:12.600
influenced a lot of creative people

01:07:12.600 --> 01:07:14.700
who then put a lot of the ideas into

01:07:14.700 --> 01:07:16.260
film and video games and

01:07:16.260 --> 01:07:17.520
popular culture

01:07:17.520 --> 01:07:20.720
and where are these with

01:07:20.720 --> 01:07:22.540
the whole video games do you play

01:07:22.540 --> 01:07:23.820
video games like much

01:07:24.640 --> 01:07:26.720
I've not played video games

01:07:26.720 --> 01:07:28.500
myself in probably

01:07:28.500 --> 01:07:30.680
20 years but I know they're

01:07:30.680 --> 01:07:31.920
so immersive now

01:07:32.430 --> 01:07:34.100
you know they're so

01:07:34.450 --> 01:07:36.340
four dimensional in a way you know like

01:07:36.340 --> 01:07:38.800
your whole timing space is just enveloped

01:07:38.800 --> 01:07:40.420
and concentrated in this game

01:07:40.420 --> 01:07:42.160
and they look phenomenal

01:07:42.820 --> 01:07:44.640
you know I just bought a new desktop

01:07:44.640 --> 01:07:46.460
desktop computer and I was

01:07:46.460 --> 01:07:47.120
telling Ted

01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:49.920
Ted Benjamin

01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:51.980
I'm about my laptop breaking

01:07:51.980 --> 01:07:54.420
but other week there and

01:07:54.420 --> 01:07:56.600
so I had to buy a new desktop

01:07:56.600 --> 01:07:58.500
and the graphics cars

01:07:58.500 --> 01:08:00.620
everything absolutely great

01:08:00.620 --> 01:08:02.680
but I don't play computer games anymore

01:08:02.680 --> 01:08:03.780
you know I'm like shit

01:08:03.780 --> 01:08:05.220
the 20 year old

01:08:05.220 --> 01:08:06.580
me would have loved us

01:08:08.160 --> 01:08:09.380
yeah I've got one

01:08:09.380 --> 01:08:11.300
I just got a desktop also

01:08:11.300 --> 01:08:12.980
and I've never had problems with it

01:08:12.980 --> 01:08:13.880
it's always been great

01:08:14.700 --> 01:08:16.860
I'm one step down from a gamer

01:08:18.440 --> 01:08:18.920
desktop

01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:21.460
which is what the lady at Best Buy told me

01:08:21.460 --> 01:08:23.220
when she set me all up with it

01:08:23.780 --> 01:08:25.360
because I just told her what I was doing

01:08:25.360 --> 01:08:26.980
and what I needed and

01:08:26.980 --> 01:08:29.040
I don't know anything about that stuff

01:08:29.040 --> 01:08:31.560
so some nerdy looking video gamer chick

01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:33.220
set me up with all the stuff

01:08:33.220 --> 01:08:35.500
and you set it up

01:08:35.500 --> 01:08:37.360
with a nice commission on the sale

01:08:37.360 --> 01:08:38.340
I'm sure

01:08:39.400 --> 01:08:40.260
that's important

01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:42.880
yeah I've noticed you've got a better setup

01:08:43.540 --> 01:08:44.940
Benjamin like from

01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:46.660
a few months ago

01:08:46.660 --> 01:08:48.160
your camera is a lot better

01:08:48.160 --> 01:08:49.280
your sound quality

01:08:49.280 --> 01:08:53.760
yeah that's thanks to the kind donations

01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:54.480
of

01:08:55.080 --> 01:08:56.920
people like Forth Wiseman

01:08:56.920 --> 01:08:58.460
and Auntie Gaslighter

01:08:58.460 --> 01:08:59.500
they got me

01:09:00.460 --> 01:09:00.940
and

01:09:00.940 --> 01:09:03.660
Edda Volk and Steve

01:09:03.660 --> 01:09:05.440
they got me one of them

01:09:06.460 --> 01:09:07.460
sound boards

01:09:07.460 --> 01:09:10.040
Yamaha sound board and they got me a fucking

01:09:10.040 --> 01:09:11.640
speaker that's

01:09:12.580 --> 01:09:13.760
condenser mic

01:09:14.340 --> 01:09:15.460
all in you know

01:09:15.460 --> 01:09:17.660
really up to the quality here

01:09:17.660 --> 01:09:19.300
we're getting serious

01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:22.480
that's good

01:09:22.480 --> 01:09:23.480
yeah

01:09:25.300 --> 01:09:25.820
yeah

01:09:25.820 --> 01:09:26.820
yeah I'm going to

01:09:27.440 --> 01:09:29.300
guys I'm going to head off

01:09:29.300 --> 01:09:31.300
because I've got a crazy kitten jumping

01:09:31.300 --> 01:09:32.300
all over the place

01:09:32.300 --> 01:09:33.680
and it's also like

01:09:34.380 --> 01:09:36.040
go have fun with your new kid

01:09:36.820 --> 01:09:39.220
you're this close to getting knighted

01:09:39.220 --> 01:09:40.500
and becoming a Ted forever

01:09:40.500 --> 01:09:43.040
oh yeah I did send the music

01:09:43.040 --> 01:09:44.320
in the telegram

01:09:44.320 --> 01:09:46.600
we got a knight him quick

01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:48.200
he's got to come back on camera though

01:09:48.200 --> 01:09:50.300
have we decided on the title

01:09:50.300 --> 01:09:51.400
the name

01:09:53.160 --> 01:09:54.440
let's see what we got

01:09:54.440 --> 01:09:55.080
back here

01:09:56.500 --> 01:09:57.880
Ted Bennington

01:09:57.880 --> 01:09:58.980
Bennington

01:09:58.980 --> 01:10:00.540
yeah that one's me

01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:03.700
where's the Bennington coming from

01:10:04.300 --> 01:10:05.100
it's just

01:10:06.100 --> 01:10:08.300
my name's Benjamin so it's Ted Bennington

01:10:09.160 --> 01:10:09.880
yeah

01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:11.200
you're

01:10:11.200 --> 01:10:13.520
I like the Ted Braves Hart

01:10:15.580 --> 01:10:17.460
depends on how you pronounce it

01:10:17.460 --> 01:10:18.940
Braves Hart or Braves

01:10:18.940 --> 01:10:20.020
Shuh

01:10:21.260 --> 01:10:22.560
I'm trying to play

01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:24.920
with the name so it can't be

01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:27.040
completely mocking

01:10:27.040 --> 01:10:28.460
or teasing in any

01:10:28.460 --> 01:10:30.300
terrible with Ted Glasgow

01:10:30.940 --> 01:10:31.940
Ted Bard

01:10:31.940 --> 01:10:34.360
Ted Braves Hart

01:10:37.300 --> 01:10:39.020
what does the chat say

01:10:39.020 --> 01:10:40.660
what's going to be most recognizable

01:10:40.660 --> 01:10:42.180
as a Ted name

01:10:42.770 --> 01:10:43.840
leave it let the chat

01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:45.500
see what the chat says

01:10:45.500 --> 01:10:46.980
Ted Calotidian

01:10:48.660 --> 01:10:49.840
Ted Vincent

01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:51.240
Ted Vincent

01:10:51.240 --> 01:10:52.660
I mean I like Ted Vincent

01:10:53.240 --> 01:10:54.160
Ted Vincent

01:10:54.160 --> 01:10:57.100
Ted Vincent it will work just fine then

01:10:57.100 --> 01:10:58.440
everybody like Ted Vincent

01:11:00.060 --> 01:11:01.260
Ted Vincent

01:11:01.260 --> 01:11:03.020
yes okay well

01:11:03.020 --> 01:11:04.440
Ted

01:11:05.380 --> 01:11:07.160
we're about to play some music

01:11:07.160 --> 01:11:09.500
and when the song ends he will be knighted

01:11:10.040 --> 01:11:11.380
under your new

01:11:11.380 --> 01:11:12.400
Ted name

01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:14.940
take a deep breath

01:11:14.940 --> 01:11:16.440
be prepared for this

01:11:17.380 --> 01:11:18.100
we're not

01:11:18.100 --> 01:11:20.720
we're not even going to tell you to go and sing no more

01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:23.120
we're open to it

01:11:23.120 --> 01:11:23.900
the Ted

01:11:23.900 --> 01:11:26.480
the Tedning is upon us

01:11:26.480 --> 01:11:29.100
tell us how killed this will sound

01:11:29.100 --> 01:12:03.000
Mark saying no

01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:04.800
we're listening to all of it

01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:05.960
oh yeah

01:12:09.860 --> 01:12:12.760
that was better than a deprivation tank experience

01:12:13.440 --> 01:12:14.020
we

01:12:14.020 --> 01:12:16.180
we Ted you

01:12:16.180 --> 01:12:17.200
Ted Vincent

01:12:18.060 --> 01:12:20.340
you know what it was worth it

01:12:20.340 --> 01:12:21.300
it was worth it

01:12:21.300 --> 01:12:24.420
you know Benjamin Vriep see one of the things

01:12:24.420 --> 01:12:26.920
that you'll notice sometimes I'm up late

01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:28.700
and then there are times

01:12:28.700 --> 01:12:30.280
I'm not on the nights

01:12:30.280 --> 01:12:32.040
so like half of the month

01:12:32.690 --> 01:12:33.860
you know I work part time

01:12:33.860 --> 01:12:36.260
and it's shift work so half of the month

01:12:36.260 --> 01:12:38.400
I'm kind of on a work evenings

01:12:38.400 --> 01:12:40.900
and then the other half I'm doing

01:12:40.900 --> 01:12:42.340
mornings so

01:12:42.900 --> 01:12:45.040
I can make these random appearances

01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:46.860
usually at a certain time

01:12:46.860 --> 01:12:49.460
in a month but for like half of a month

01:12:49.460 --> 01:12:50.500
I just can't do it you know

01:12:50.500 --> 01:12:53.080
right right right well we're doing

01:12:53.080 --> 01:12:54.960
we're gonna we're I'm doing a Wednesday

01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.040
now show now also that's more

01:12:57.040 --> 01:12:59.000
on a cult type stuff I think

01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:00.960
you might enjoy the Wednesday show quite a bit

01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:03.040
too brother was that was that the

01:13:03.040 --> 01:13:04.180
the one on

01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:05.940
Lucifer was it

01:13:05.940 --> 01:13:07.680
yeah yeah that was the first one

01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:08.480
yeah

01:13:09.180 --> 01:13:11.720
yeah next one well guys thanks

01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:12.980
for having me on it was a

01:13:12.980 --> 01:13:15.020
pleasure man thank you Ted Vincent

01:13:15.020 --> 01:13:18.080
nice to meet you Ted

01:13:18.740 --> 01:13:20.020
nice to meet you Ted

01:13:20.020 --> 01:13:22.260
have a good night Ted

01:13:26.360 --> 01:13:28.080
I still have a taco

01:13:28.080 --> 01:13:29.380
but I'll come back on camera

01:13:29.380 --> 01:13:31.940
we love tacos on Tuesdays

01:13:32.940 --> 01:13:34.060
taco Tuesday

01:13:34.060 --> 01:13:35.940
is that an American taco

01:13:35.940 --> 01:13:37.200
uh no

01:13:37.690 --> 01:13:38.520
no it's not

01:13:40.180 --> 01:13:41.760
Steve thinks he's up class

01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:42.880
he don't eat Tex-Mex

01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:47.140
it's just melted

01:13:47.740 --> 01:13:50.160
it's not queso shut up

01:13:51.060 --> 01:13:51.640
Jesus

01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:54.040
you freaking plebeians

01:13:57.340 --> 01:13:59.100
listen it don't come with potato

01:13:59.100 --> 01:14:01.460
I don't even want anything to do with it

01:14:01.460 --> 01:14:03.240
I don't even give a fuck what country

01:14:03.240 --> 01:14:04.460
you wanted to claim it's from

01:14:05.320 --> 01:14:05.960
right

01:14:08.340 --> 01:14:11.300
yeah we did have tater tots the other

01:14:11.300 --> 01:14:12.580
night but they were sweet potato

01:14:13.240 --> 01:14:15.040
tater tots which are freaking

01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:16.560
awesome by the way

01:14:17.240 --> 01:14:18.780
they sound awesome

01:14:18.780 --> 01:14:19.700
that's hot

01:14:19.700 --> 01:14:22.500
sweet potato fries are fantastic

01:14:23.160 --> 01:14:25.040
yes sir and in a tater tot

01:14:25.040 --> 01:14:26.540
even better bad

01:14:26.540 --> 01:14:28.280
so it's still kind of

01:14:28.280 --> 01:14:29.980
kind of chopped up

01:14:30.620 --> 01:14:31.220
into

01:14:31.220 --> 01:14:32.800
a little coin shape

01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:34.280
it's not like mushed up

01:14:34.280 --> 01:14:35.720
how do they do that

01:14:36.420 --> 01:14:37.360
it's a tot shape

01:14:37.360 --> 01:14:41.100
a little donkey Kong barrel shape

01:14:41.860 --> 01:14:43.760
yeah that's not tater tots

01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:44.860
they're more like a coin

01:14:44.860 --> 01:14:47.800
they aren't as logish as a normal

01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:48.600
tater tot

01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:50.640
potato laser like thin

01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:53.580
if you stacked like three or four of them

01:14:53.580 --> 01:14:55.180
on each other it would make like a thick

01:14:55.180 --> 01:14:55.980
tater tot

01:14:59.980 --> 01:15:01.260
and then also they use the

01:15:01.260 --> 01:15:02.820
the blood of innocent children

01:15:02.820 --> 01:15:05.600
and unicorns to flavor it

01:15:08.060 --> 01:15:10.360
the currents like with all good food

01:15:10.360 --> 01:15:11.260
yeah

01:15:11.820 --> 01:15:12.380
oh yes

01:15:13.900 --> 01:15:15.940
and I'm definitely sure there's racism

01:15:15.940 --> 01:15:17.860
added in there I mean you can't claim

01:15:17.860 --> 01:15:19.840
something's text max up and fucking the

01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:21.880
Dakotas and Wyoming and then

01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:23.460
not have some of that in there

01:15:23.980 --> 01:15:24.500
right

01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:26.400
right

01:15:26.400 --> 01:15:28.500
like we don't even know what a

01:15:28.500 --> 01:15:30.440
Mexican is where I'm from like what

01:15:30.440 --> 01:15:31.980
where is that

01:15:31.980 --> 01:15:33.960
oh yeah you do

01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:36.360
you just you killed most of them

01:15:36.360 --> 01:15:38.100
in the 1800s so

01:15:38.100 --> 01:15:40.640
yeah I haven't seen a lot

01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:42.140
but you used to know

01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:44.720
that's where we used to have

01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:46.680
China men we used to have China men

01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:47.460
get it right

01:15:48.660 --> 01:15:50.160
I think it was

01:15:50.160 --> 01:15:52.520
Tom Russell song but

01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:53.820
it was about

01:15:55.660 --> 01:15:56.260
two

01:15:56.260 --> 01:15:57.560
Mexican horse thieves

01:15:58.620 --> 01:15:59.820
who were

01:16:00.480 --> 01:16:01.080
selling

01:16:05.580 --> 01:16:07.940
oh god dude it was like

01:16:07.940 --> 01:16:09.720
supposed to be like

01:16:10.900 --> 01:16:12.100
horsehair braided

01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:14.320
rains for a saddle

01:16:14.320 --> 01:16:15.860
or something for a horse

01:16:15.860 --> 01:16:17.660
or something like that but it was a

01:16:17.660 --> 01:16:19.880
really like based on a true story

01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:21.940
and all that kind of stuff but it was

01:16:21.940 --> 01:16:24.100
all yeah South Dakota oriented

01:16:24.100 --> 01:16:24.940
huh

01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:27.900
I'll track it down at some point drop

01:16:27.900 --> 01:16:28.740
it in the group chat

01:16:29.780 --> 01:16:32.160
Tom Russell's a really weird dude

01:16:32.160 --> 01:16:33.540
very

01:16:33.540 --> 01:16:36.140
eccentric and eclectic fella

01:16:36.140 --> 01:16:37.760
and his

01:16:38.840 --> 01:16:39.600
particular

01:16:40.660 --> 01:16:42.180
storytelling style

01:16:42.180 --> 01:16:43.920
rooted a lot

01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:45.580
in the American West

01:16:45.580 --> 01:16:47.820
and as Ben's pointed out plenty of times

01:16:47.820 --> 01:16:49.760
the American West

01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:52.120
took place mostly in South Dakota

01:16:52.120 --> 01:16:53.680
yeah that's true

01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:56.060
yeah the Wild West is South Dakota

01:16:56.060 --> 01:16:57.840
despite the way it sounds

01:16:59.080 --> 01:16:59.740
Wild

01:16:59.740 --> 01:17:00.580
Bill

01:17:01.340 --> 01:17:03.320
Wild Bill Hickok and all that

01:17:03.320 --> 01:17:04.960
from Deadwood South Dakota

01:17:05.550 --> 01:17:07.540
it was just the anniversary

01:17:07.540 --> 01:17:09.820
of him getting shot and the origin of

01:17:09.820 --> 01:17:10.700
the dead man's hand

01:17:11.660 --> 01:17:13.600
yeah I got to see

01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:14.240
the actual

01:17:14.240 --> 01:17:17.260
obviously I'm from there and I've seen

01:17:17.260 --> 01:17:19.020
and looked at

01:17:19.020 --> 01:17:20.220
you know the actual

01:17:20.220 --> 01:17:22.820
dead man's hand and everything that he was holding

01:17:22.820 --> 01:17:25.280
and stood in the spot where he's supposed to

01:17:25.280 --> 01:17:25.540
have

01:17:26.660 --> 01:17:29.100
been shot all that kind of fun stuff

01:17:29.100 --> 01:17:30.860
mm-hmm

01:17:30.860 --> 01:17:33.500
going to take a grotesquely

01:17:33.500 --> 01:17:34.880
large bite so I'm gonna

01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:35.920
my mom

01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:38.580
back in the day when my mom was young

01:17:38.580 --> 01:17:40.280
she used to play on his

01:17:40.280 --> 01:17:41.780
on his grave

01:17:41.780 --> 01:17:43.200
and also

01:17:43.200 --> 01:17:43.860
uh

01:17:46.260 --> 01:17:47.220
Annie Oakley

01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:48.360
um

01:17:49.020 --> 01:17:50.760
and he used to play my mom

01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:52.300
they used to not have their grave

01:17:53.200 --> 01:17:55.060
fenced off and you could go in there

01:17:55.060 --> 01:17:57.220
so when she is high school you know we all did

01:17:57.220 --> 01:17:58.660
that stupid shit play around

01:17:58.660 --> 01:18:01.120
hanging out in the graveyard for no fucking apparent reason

01:18:01.860 --> 01:18:03.460
only they did it on

01:18:04.120 --> 01:18:05.620
Wild Bill Hickok's grave

01:18:05.620 --> 01:18:06.720
it's a nice park

01:18:09.940 --> 01:18:10.940
it's a nice city

01:18:10.940 --> 01:18:12.200
they deadwood definitely

01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:14.700
put that on a destination

01:18:14.700 --> 01:18:16.480
let's put it right at the top

01:18:16.480 --> 01:18:18.800
and now now Sturgis is about

01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:20.720
the only thing anybody really comes for

01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:23.080
they they flooded the homestay

01:18:23.080 --> 01:18:23.780
gold mines

01:18:25.740 --> 01:18:26.780
I wonder

01:18:26.780 --> 01:18:28.700
with the newest

01:18:28.700 --> 01:18:31.120
version and I haven't seen any episodes

01:18:31.120 --> 01:18:33.580
of it yet but the little house

01:18:33.580 --> 01:18:34.960
on the prairie

01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:36.980
on the prairie they're gonna be

01:18:36.980 --> 01:18:38.200
less less

01:18:38.200 --> 01:18:38.680
uh

01:18:39.740 --> 01:18:41.020
pdf file-ish

01:18:42.660 --> 01:18:43.940
oh you know

01:18:43.940 --> 01:18:44.280
I

01:18:46.420 --> 01:18:47.840
Michael Landon's character

01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:50.140
into a six foot three black woman

01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:52.080
right right

01:18:53.200 --> 01:18:54.720
I haven't seen it yet

01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:57.040
I'm waiting to see if it's gonna go

01:18:57.040 --> 01:18:59.080
for one season and they cancel it

01:18:59.080 --> 01:19:01.420
or if it's just gonna go for like a thousand episodes

01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:04.120
dude where I'm from

01:19:04.120 --> 01:19:06.840
I swear to God every fucking city

01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:09.140
that any of the fucking Ingalls Wilders

01:19:09.140 --> 01:19:10.480
fucking took a piss in

01:19:10.480 --> 01:19:12.720
there's a sign at the edge of the town

01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:15.100
Laura Ingalls Wilder's sister

01:19:15.100 --> 01:19:16.980
took a shit over here right here

01:19:16.980 --> 01:19:18.960
historical markers for historical

01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:19.700
outhouses

01:19:20.360 --> 01:19:22.880
yeah you're like cheese people

01:19:26.840 --> 01:19:28.980
and they lived all in the

01:19:30.820 --> 01:19:32.940
east side of Dakota not over

01:19:32.940 --> 01:19:34.920
by deadwood they lived on the east side

01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:35.740
over by Minnesota

01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:38.580
and then it became Lollapalooza

01:19:39.400 --> 01:19:40.080
yeah

01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:41.580
that's what happened

01:19:41.580 --> 01:19:44.660
I think there might have been one or two more

01:19:44.660 --> 01:19:46.140
steps in there somewhere but

01:19:46.660 --> 01:19:47.740
not important

01:19:47.740 --> 01:19:50.700
they probably had to build up

01:19:50.700 --> 01:19:52.220
Grant Park a little bit

01:19:53.480 --> 01:19:54.780
yeah by way of

01:19:54.780 --> 01:19:56.880
Perry Farrell there were some addictions

01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:58.320
Jane's addiction

01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:01.080
that was one very specific

01:20:01.080 --> 01:20:01.740
addiction

01:20:01.740 --> 01:20:02.440
yeah

01:20:03.390 --> 01:20:03.780
touring

01:20:03.780 --> 01:20:06.180
did you ever see the gift

01:20:06.180 --> 01:20:08.400
did you ever see Perry's fucked up movie

01:20:08.400 --> 01:20:10.560
about Jane called the gift

01:20:11.450 --> 01:20:13.120
no I'm not allowed to

01:20:13.120 --> 01:20:14.920
holy crap dude it's

01:20:15.740 --> 01:20:16.260
freaky

01:20:16.260 --> 01:20:18.680
like he keeps her on ice

01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:20.300
and keeps fucking her

01:20:21.500 --> 01:20:22.280
yeah

01:20:25.590 --> 01:20:28.060
Perry Farrell is a twisted dude

01:20:31.740 --> 01:20:33.680
still love Jane's addiction by the way

01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:35.140
still love the freaking man

01:20:35.440 --> 01:20:37.760
I know it's not

01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:38.700
it's his

01:20:39.440 --> 01:20:40.200
you know

01:20:40.200 --> 01:20:42.860
I thought their addiction was shoplifting

01:20:42.860 --> 01:20:44.600
from the mind of Perry Farrell

01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:45.840
yeah

01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:49.340
from the very weird brain of Perry

01:20:49.340 --> 01:20:50.220
but

01:20:50.940 --> 01:20:53.880
oh man Jane's addiction as far as a band

01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:54.300
goes

01:20:55.420 --> 01:20:57.080
so fucking fun

01:20:59.180 --> 01:21:00.020
I know

01:21:00.020 --> 01:21:01.160
we're on youtube

01:21:01.160 --> 01:21:02.240
so we can't play any

01:21:03.080 --> 01:21:04.120
why is

01:21:05.020 --> 01:21:06.800
why do all the fucking

01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:09.060
wealthy people end up taking the marquita

01:21:09.060 --> 01:21:09.840
side route

01:21:11.060 --> 01:21:13.180
just getting really weird with shit

01:21:13.180 --> 01:21:15.360
because nothing entertains you anymore

01:21:15.360 --> 01:21:17.180
you've done everything already

01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:19.320
so you have to

01:21:19.320 --> 01:21:21.320
get weirder and weirder

01:21:21.320 --> 01:21:23.180
in order to keep like

01:21:23.180 --> 01:21:24.780
feeling anything

01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:28.620
I've been getting

01:21:29.480 --> 01:21:30.540
I've been having sex

01:21:30.540 --> 01:21:31.440
for a long time

01:21:31.440 --> 01:21:32.360
and I gotta tell you

01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:34.880
it's you know I don't get as worked up

01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:36.480
about it as I did when I was young

01:21:36.480 --> 01:21:38.640
cause I don't have fucking 12 gallons

01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:40.780
of testosterone floating through my fucking

01:21:40.780 --> 01:21:42.140
system at any given time

01:21:42.140 --> 01:21:44.280
but I still enjoy it

01:21:44.280 --> 01:21:45.780
approximately the same level

01:21:47.660 --> 01:21:48.140
right

01:21:48.140 --> 01:21:50.640
and I've been doing it a lot for a long time

01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:52.540
I got seven kids and shit

01:21:52.540 --> 01:21:53.200
just you know

01:21:53.900 --> 01:21:55.500
I've been banging that drum

01:21:55.500 --> 01:21:58.500
and it still sounds just as good as the first

01:21:58.500 --> 01:21:59.660
time I did it

01:22:01.080 --> 01:22:01.640
right

01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:04.760
it's a drums name psychosis

01:22:08.440 --> 01:22:10.500
no I didn't read fleas book

01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:13.740
that's the name of it

01:22:13.740 --> 01:22:16.580
I never really

01:22:16.580 --> 01:22:18.600
the red hot chili peppers

01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:20.360
never really did it for me

01:22:20.360 --> 01:22:21.340
like that

01:22:22.660 --> 01:22:24.260
I like

01:22:24.260 --> 01:22:25.660
I really stopped

01:22:26.220 --> 01:22:27.720
after freaky style

01:22:27.920 --> 01:22:29.940
or like mother's milk maybe

01:22:29.940 --> 01:22:31.480
I stopped

01:22:32.360 --> 01:22:34.760
enjoying the red hots as much

01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:36.280
they almost

01:22:36.280 --> 01:22:38.100
seem more like a novelty band

01:22:39.040 --> 01:22:40.460
well I mean

01:22:40.460 --> 01:22:42.320
every song is just

01:22:42.320 --> 01:22:44.520
California something something California

01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:45.860
something something California

01:22:45.860 --> 01:22:47.520
like

01:22:50.360 --> 01:22:51.820
a bad game there

01:22:52.360 --> 01:22:54.100
like over and over and over

01:22:54.100 --> 01:22:55.000
yeah

01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:58.220
it was what

01:22:58.220 --> 01:23:00.320
1987-1988

01:23:00.320 --> 01:23:02.120
it was either listened

01:23:02.120 --> 01:23:03.500
to red hot chili peppers

01:23:03.500 --> 01:23:06.080
or Metallica master of puppets

01:23:06.080 --> 01:23:07.560
and I made my choice

01:23:08.300 --> 01:23:10.080
yeah although 88 was like

01:23:10.080 --> 01:23:12.100
88-89 was probably

01:23:12.100 --> 01:23:13.960
the last like fun

01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:16.220
good red hot chili

01:23:16.220 --> 01:23:17.000
peppers album

01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:18.920
and they did higher ground

01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:19.780
and shit like that

01:23:21.480 --> 01:23:23.360
but yeah no flea

01:23:23.360 --> 01:23:24.060
is a

01:23:24.060 --> 01:23:25.960
a very weird fella

01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:28.880
I was down in big sir years

01:23:28.880 --> 01:23:30.900
ago probably told

01:23:30.900 --> 01:23:32.540
this story but uncle fatty hasn't

01:23:32.540 --> 01:23:34.940
heard it and we're hanging out

01:23:34.940 --> 01:23:36.840
at the little coffee shop

01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:38.980
in front of the fernwood resort

01:23:38.980 --> 01:23:41.140
just as you're getting into

01:23:41.140 --> 01:23:42.640
big sir and

01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:44.640
we're sitting outside we're smoking a joint

01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:46.020
we're you know

01:23:46.480 --> 01:23:47.840
bullshit and waking up

01:23:48.440 --> 01:23:50.200
and we see this like

01:23:50.200 --> 01:23:52.000
highlighter shape

01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:54.380
moving towards us

01:23:54.380 --> 01:23:56.220
and as it gets closer

01:23:56.220 --> 01:23:58.560
it's flea

01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:00.020
and he's wearing

01:24:00.020 --> 01:24:01.260
a mesh

01:24:01.260 --> 01:24:04.500
neon yellow tank top like high

01:24:04.500 --> 01:24:06.140
vis yellow tank top

01:24:06.140 --> 01:24:07.940
mesh tank top

01:24:08.240 --> 01:24:10.520
and like tiny little

01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:12.680
1970s jogger shorts

01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:14.040
and he's just

01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:15.780
running down the road

01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:18.640
because he has a place in

01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:20.660
big sir and apparently likes

01:24:20.660 --> 01:24:22.440
to jog more

01:24:22.440 --> 01:24:23.620
or less naked

01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:28.140
as you would

01:24:28.140 --> 01:24:30.260
and everybody's just did nobody

01:24:30.260 --> 01:24:32.460
pays any attention to it because they've

01:24:32.460 --> 01:24:34.540
seen it a million fucking times

01:24:34.540 --> 01:24:35.720
and I'm like is that

01:24:37.360 --> 01:24:37.960
flea

01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:40.020
like yeah that's flea

01:24:40.020 --> 01:24:40.360
yeah

01:24:41.780 --> 01:24:42.280
flea does

01:24:45.340 --> 01:24:46.100
californication

01:24:46.100 --> 01:24:47.700
verse one psychic

01:24:47.700 --> 01:24:49.160
spies from china

01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:52.080
try to steal your mind's elation

01:24:52.080 --> 01:24:52.980
what's that about

01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:55.660
psychic spy

01:24:55.660 --> 01:24:57.620
we're pretending mk ultra

01:24:57.620 --> 01:25:00.020
didn't take place in california

01:25:00.540 --> 01:25:01.860
right there in

01:25:01.860 --> 01:25:03.600
excellent right there in big sir

01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:05.340
right where flea was jogging

01:25:08.180 --> 01:25:08.820
yeah

01:25:08.820 --> 01:25:09.940
yeah the excellent institute

01:25:09.940 --> 01:25:10.780
is

01:25:11.340 --> 01:25:12.760
crazy little place

01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:17.300
we should deep dive on that

01:25:17.300 --> 01:25:19.380
I have a buddy who's almost out of

01:25:19.380 --> 01:25:19.900
his nda

01:25:21.280 --> 01:25:23.160
he's got two more years left

01:25:23.160 --> 01:25:24.540
on the nda

01:25:25.200 --> 01:25:27.000
from when he was working at

01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:28.780
excellent as a baker

01:25:28.780 --> 01:25:30.280
and a massage therapist

01:25:31.340 --> 01:25:33.440
and he has promised

01:25:33.440 --> 01:25:35.840
me that you will come on the show

01:25:36.580 --> 01:25:37.180
and

01:25:37.180 --> 01:25:38.780
talk about some stuff

01:25:39.260 --> 01:25:41.520
that he saw while in the employ

01:25:41.520 --> 01:25:42.180
a vessel in

01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:45.320
wow

01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:49.700
yeah I'm sure

01:25:49.700 --> 01:25:51.640
they got some killer live show energy

01:25:53.440 --> 01:25:54.400
iron maiden

01:25:54.400 --> 01:25:55.880
iron maiden was the king

01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:57.160
of that in the 80s

01:25:58.040 --> 01:25:59.660
iron man fucking

01:25:59.660 --> 01:26:00.580
slayer

01:26:00.580 --> 01:26:01.620
yeah

01:26:02.700 --> 01:26:04.740
early cannibal corpse

01:26:04.740 --> 01:26:06.300
was

01:26:06.300 --> 01:26:08.260
something to behold live

01:26:08.260 --> 01:26:10.760
panterra live 80s was the era

01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:12.620
of the most badass concerts

01:26:12.620 --> 01:26:14.320
it really was

01:26:16.260 --> 01:26:18.760
like they were giant mega

01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:19.400
concerts

01:26:20.340 --> 01:26:22.380
they still do them all over

01:26:22.380 --> 01:26:24.280
sound like every the

01:26:24.280 --> 01:26:26.900
80s and like early to mid 90s

01:26:26.900 --> 01:26:27.540
metal scene

01:26:27.540 --> 01:26:29.660
that's alive and well

01:26:29.660 --> 01:26:31.960
in central and south america

01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:33.980
yeah yeah I've seen it

01:26:35.500 --> 01:26:37.480
it does well in europe too

01:26:37.480 --> 01:26:39.460
like when iron maiden did their flight

01:26:39.460 --> 01:26:41.740
666 and went to like fucking like

01:26:41.740 --> 01:26:43.720
40 countries or something

01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:45.680
like they just sold out every

01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:47.180
venue that was giant

01:26:47.180 --> 01:26:49.320
yeah I went to a

01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:51.120
I loved widespread panic

01:26:51.120 --> 01:26:53.480
Jason Talbot I went to a

01:26:53.480 --> 01:26:54.700
ton of those shows

01:26:56.660 --> 01:26:56.960
back

01:26:57.260 --> 01:26:57.600
yeah

01:26:58.480 --> 01:27:00.700
yeah that was the era when live shows

01:27:00.700 --> 01:27:01.720
were just the shit

01:27:02.460 --> 01:27:04.040
I think a lot of these bands

01:27:04.040 --> 01:27:05.020
were affordable

01:27:05.020 --> 01:27:06.040
yeah

01:27:08.440 --> 01:27:10.400
it wasn't like oh you need

01:27:10.400 --> 01:27:12.940
$1400 to go to a concert

01:27:12.940 --> 01:27:14.720
need to finance it

01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:15.940
make payments

01:27:16.420 --> 01:27:17.200
to get a ticket

01:27:18.460 --> 01:27:20.320
it's insane and the damage

01:27:20.320 --> 01:27:22.780
that happens to the park in

01:27:22.780 --> 01:27:23.580
Chicago

01:27:23.580 --> 01:27:25.560
that's just built in the price

01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:27.440
it's usually just a million

01:27:27.440 --> 01:27:30.060
dollars just to repair it

01:27:30.060 --> 01:27:30.680
after the

01:27:31.460 --> 01:27:33.420
the lala peluza

01:27:33.420 --> 01:27:35.960
I never saw motorhead I would have loved

01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:37.200
to have seen motorhead

01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:40.360
I quit listening to

01:27:40.360 --> 01:27:41.360
motorhead after

01:27:42.140 --> 01:27:44.140
whatever Tony hot game on

01:27:44.140 --> 01:27:45.280
Nintendo 64

01:27:45.980 --> 01:27:47.960
overplays the ace of spades like

01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:49.400
fucking like repeat

01:27:49.400 --> 01:27:50.900
the pro skater

01:27:50.900 --> 01:27:51.480
yeah

01:27:53.480 --> 01:27:54.700
you're like

01:27:54.700 --> 01:27:56.080
it needs a spanish

01:27:56.080 --> 01:27:57.920
say it again

01:27:57.920 --> 01:28:00.280
I will fucking

01:28:00.280 --> 01:28:02.460
start stalking lemmy

01:28:02.460 --> 01:28:04.960
I found a really cool Mexican

01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:06.000
band called

01:28:07.340 --> 01:28:08.540
Bardo ebanjo

01:28:09.400 --> 01:28:11.080
and they do a

01:28:11.080 --> 01:28:13.300
killer ace of spades cover

01:28:13.300 --> 01:28:15.340
and it's just like

01:28:15.340 --> 01:28:17.240
three redneck

01:28:17.240 --> 01:28:19.120
Mexican dudes playing

01:28:19.120 --> 01:28:20.180
stringed instruments

01:28:20.180 --> 01:28:22.740
and the lead guitar is a banjo

01:28:22.740 --> 01:28:24.240
nice

01:28:25.080 --> 01:28:27.000
yeah and they do motorhead

01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:27.380
and other

01:28:27.380 --> 01:28:29.400
other metal covers

01:28:30.360 --> 01:28:31.440
that's fun

01:28:32.900 --> 01:28:33.740
there's

01:28:35.660 --> 01:28:36.500
the

01:28:37.820 --> 01:28:38.660
mariachi

01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:41.320
mariachi metallica

01:28:41.320 --> 01:28:42.040
band

01:28:42.040 --> 01:28:42.080
that's fun

01:28:42.080 --> 01:28:43.200
oh

01:28:43.200 --> 01:28:45.220
that's fun

01:28:46.540 --> 01:28:48.120
those guys are great

01:28:49.220 --> 01:28:51.120
they're called metallachi

01:28:51.750 --> 01:28:52.680
metal right

01:28:52.680 --> 01:28:53.560
right

01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:56.280
first time I saw them was an attractor

01:28:56.280 --> 01:28:57.280
pole in Stockton

01:28:58.180 --> 01:28:58.920
right

01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:01.280
that sounds exactly right

01:29:01.280 --> 01:29:02.760
hell yeah boy

01:29:04.280 --> 01:29:06.860
rhyming the itch of air in her was fantastic

01:29:06.860 --> 01:29:08.560
that was that's true

01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:09.520
that's a fact

01:29:11.940 --> 01:29:12.560
most

01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:14.840
most maiden is pretty fantastic though

01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:18.460
I had

01:29:19.120 --> 01:29:20.320
because it was

01:29:21.040 --> 01:29:22.620
hetfields james hatfields birthday

01:29:22.620 --> 01:29:23.360
the other day

01:29:24.240 --> 01:29:26.600
and so I do pre-show music for am

01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:28.980
wake up and I frequently will

01:29:28.980 --> 01:29:30.060
you know

01:29:30.060 --> 01:29:32.580
put like birthdays or death

01:29:32.580 --> 01:29:35.040
anniversaries or stuff like that for that day

01:29:35.040 --> 01:29:36.500
people music

01:29:36.500 --> 01:29:37.960
cultural heritage

01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:40.360
instead of pulling any

01:29:40.360 --> 01:29:41.960
actual metallica for it

01:29:42.360 --> 01:29:44.340
there was a bluegrass band

01:29:44.340 --> 01:29:45.520
called iron horse

01:29:46.240 --> 01:29:48.120
that did an album

01:29:48.120 --> 01:29:49.560
called fade to bluegrass

01:29:50.220 --> 01:29:52.080
and it's all metallica covers

01:29:52.080 --> 01:29:54.560
and it's done really

01:29:54.560 --> 01:29:56.260
really well I like that

01:29:56.260 --> 01:29:57.780
hazy dixie

01:29:58.220 --> 01:30:00.080
is another bluegrass band

01:30:00.080 --> 01:30:01.540
that does incredible

01:30:02.360 --> 01:30:03.980
arrangements of metal songs

01:30:06.500 --> 01:30:07.180
fun shit

01:30:07.180 --> 01:30:10.120
to be fair metallica hasn't been metal

01:30:10.120 --> 01:30:11.640
either since like 1990

01:30:13.140 --> 01:30:14.340
yeah do you

01:30:14.340 --> 01:30:16.660
put it at ride the lightning or injustice

01:30:16.660 --> 01:30:17.380
for all

01:30:17.380 --> 01:30:18.280
injustice

01:30:20.280 --> 01:30:22.220
had some good stuff in it

01:30:22.220 --> 01:30:24.220
but that was like the beginning of the end

01:30:24.220 --> 01:30:26.000
that should have been like their last fight

01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:27.040
like okay we're out

01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:32.420
like you can't one is hard to beat

01:30:32.420 --> 01:30:34.560
one was fucking crazy good

01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:36.660
oh dude there's a ton of songs

01:30:36.660 --> 01:30:37.940
on that album that are great

01:30:37.940 --> 01:30:40.960
yeah all around that's a good album

01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:42.340
and then black

01:30:42.340 --> 01:30:43.020
is

01:30:44.320 --> 01:30:46.980
black is like they took metallica

01:30:46.980 --> 01:30:48.260
and ate it

01:30:48.260 --> 01:30:50.720
with bad taco bell and what they

01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:52.840
fucking left in the toilet the next day

01:30:52.840 --> 01:30:54.660
was metallica post

01:30:56.340 --> 01:30:58.340
and justice dude

01:30:58.340 --> 01:30:59.760
harvester of sorrow

01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:03.340
off of the

01:31:03.340 --> 01:31:04.520
the fucking

01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:05.980
and justice for all album

01:31:07.240 --> 01:31:08.140
that's a

01:31:08.140 --> 01:31:10.700
that's like an anti-war

01:31:10.700 --> 01:31:11.980
freaking

01:31:11.980 --> 01:31:14.440
anthem and a

01:31:14.440 --> 01:31:16.060
ripper that's also back

01:31:16.060 --> 01:31:17.920
when metallica used to be anti-war

01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:19.260
yeah yeah

01:31:19.260 --> 01:31:22.020
metal in general used to be

01:31:22.020 --> 01:31:23.640
anti-war yeah

01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:27.020
very anti-establishment

01:31:27.020 --> 01:31:29.000
and then metallica got a

01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:29.400
haircut

01:31:30.940 --> 01:31:32.780
all kind of went down the drain

01:31:32.780 --> 01:31:33.900
do you remember the

01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:36.640
Alice in chains MTV

01:31:37.300 --> 01:31:37.820
unplugged

01:31:37.820 --> 01:31:40.940
back in the day mike star the bass player

01:31:40.940 --> 01:31:42.900
came out with permanent marker

01:31:42.900 --> 01:31:44.980
on his bass that said friends don't let friends

01:31:44.980 --> 01:31:46.920
get haircuts yeah it's because

01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:49.280
they were the opening band for metallica

01:31:49.280 --> 01:31:50.080
on that tour

01:31:50.980 --> 01:31:52.860
metallica was in the front row of the

01:31:52.860 --> 01:31:54.980
unplugged thing and so the whole time

01:31:54.980 --> 01:31:56.920
like Alice in chains is just fucking with

01:31:56.920 --> 01:31:58.240
metallica for getting their haircut

01:32:01.660 --> 01:32:03.080
even though lane did it

01:32:03.080 --> 01:32:04.700
first and died at pink

01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:09.520
yeah

01:32:11.160 --> 01:32:13.500
everybody those 30 years ago

01:32:13.500 --> 01:32:14.660
last week

01:32:14.660 --> 01:32:17.160
the Alice in chains unplugged MTV

01:32:18.660 --> 01:32:19.260
unplugged

01:32:19.260 --> 01:32:21.000
in case you haven't fell

01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:21.680
old yet

01:32:22.300 --> 01:32:22.900
yeah

01:32:22.900 --> 01:32:23.400
yeah

01:32:25.460 --> 01:32:27.280
wolf alice played at the lala

01:32:27.280 --> 01:32:27.760
pollutes

01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:31.040
moon Alice is playing right down the

01:32:31.040 --> 01:32:33.000
street for me a lot of different Alice

01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:34.680
is all over the place right now

01:32:35.180 --> 01:32:36.740
it's a popular name

01:32:37.580 --> 01:32:39.200
yeah you already knew you were sunk

01:32:39.200 --> 01:32:40.740
when all these bands were listing are

01:32:40.740 --> 01:32:42.280
played on the classic station

01:32:43.400 --> 01:32:45.060
I see I've yet to

01:32:45.060 --> 01:32:47.060
I've yet to hear sublime

01:32:47.060 --> 01:32:49.020
in a grocery store so I think we're okay

01:32:50.600 --> 01:32:51.660
I think we're okay

01:32:55.060 --> 01:32:56.680
no depends on the grocery store

01:32:56.680 --> 01:32:58.940
they're playing a lot of smashing pumpkins

01:32:58.940 --> 01:33:01.220
I just feel like I have

01:33:01.220 --> 01:33:02.980
heard sublime in a grocery store

01:33:02.980 --> 01:33:03.680
up here somewhere

01:33:03.680 --> 01:33:07.340
I think at the fucking Eureka

01:33:07.340 --> 01:33:08.700
natural foods I have

01:33:08.700 --> 01:33:10.220
that might track

01:33:11.320 --> 01:33:13.060
no effect was a fun show

01:33:13.060 --> 01:33:14.660
but Fat Mike is a little bitch

01:33:15.200 --> 01:33:16.280
fuck Fat Mike

01:33:22.500 --> 01:33:22.980
I

01:33:22.980 --> 01:33:23.100
I

01:33:23.100 --> 01:33:24.900
only liked Ozzy when he was with

01:33:24.900 --> 01:33:27.140
the black Sabbath

01:33:27.140 --> 01:33:29.020
I didn't really I thought

01:33:29.020 --> 01:33:30.640
no more tears was a pretty good

01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:32.420
album but other than that I didn't

01:33:32.420 --> 01:33:34.340
Blizzard of Oz is pretty dope

01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:36.940
yeah it was the first album

01:33:36.940 --> 01:33:38.400
that Zach Wilde played on

01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:41.120
yeah it was pretty good

01:33:41.120 --> 01:33:42.820
but it wasn't it's still not something

01:33:42.820 --> 01:33:45.040
that I would listen to a lot Tommy I owe me

01:33:45.040 --> 01:33:46.560
and fucking no but

01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:47.980
you know yeah

01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:50.640
he went from like

01:33:50.640 --> 01:33:52.440
inventing stoner doom

01:33:52.440 --> 01:33:54.660
metal into like

01:33:54.660 --> 01:33:55.700
glam metal

01:33:56.320 --> 01:33:58.740
for the 80s and it did it lost

01:33:58.740 --> 01:34:00.620
you know some of it but yeah

01:34:00.620 --> 01:34:02.760
Zach Wilde absolutely fucking amazing

01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:04.640
yeah no he's he

01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:05.860
himself is great

01:34:06.480 --> 01:34:08.620
and yeah Beastie Boys were we were

01:34:08.620 --> 01:34:10.800
all white we we we enjoy

01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:12.480
and we're alive

01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:14.620
in the 80s and in high school we enjoyed

01:34:14.620 --> 01:34:16.440
the Beastie Boys if you were a white

01:34:16.440 --> 01:34:18.480
kid licensed to ill showed up in your

01:34:18.480 --> 01:34:20.540
mailbox with like tide samples

01:34:20.540 --> 01:34:22.040
and stuff like that yeah

01:34:23.700 --> 01:34:24.720
it's a fact

01:34:24.720 --> 01:34:25.960
fucking boy

01:34:26.620 --> 01:34:27.900
I even had

01:34:27.900 --> 01:34:29.500
I even had a fucking

01:34:30.740 --> 01:34:31.260
56

01:34:32.860 --> 01:34:34.640
C10 all lowered and shit

01:34:35.180 --> 01:34:37.140
and had that thing decked out

01:34:37.140 --> 01:34:38.640
and that's all that I ever played

01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:40.280
and that was licensed ground effects

01:34:40.280 --> 01:34:41.820
you put ground effects on that bitch

01:34:41.820 --> 01:34:43.920
no no South Dakota's roads

01:34:43.920 --> 01:34:45.420
aren't good enough for ground effects

01:34:45.420 --> 01:34:47.540
gonna say like how wigger did it

01:34:47.540 --> 01:34:48.200
it get

01:34:49.080 --> 01:34:51.660
no not like that not like that

01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:55.680
it had a fucking it had

01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:57.400
a decked out 302 in it

01:34:58.260 --> 01:34:59.620
like you know

01:35:00.320 --> 01:35:02.220
the last 10 that I had

01:35:02.220 --> 01:35:02.960
had a 350

01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:05.220
board out to like a 383

01:35:06.060 --> 01:35:07.600
dropped in it that was

01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:09.680
insane it was too much

01:35:13.220 --> 01:35:13.900
yeah

01:35:13.900 --> 01:35:15.320
I had glass packs on it

01:35:15.320 --> 01:35:17.260
dual exhaust and glass packs

01:35:17.820 --> 01:35:19.460
and what's up Jody

01:35:19.460 --> 01:35:20.720
what's up Tim Timmy

01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:21.640
what's up spin

01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:24.440
my S10 had a horseship

01:35:24.440 --> 01:35:26.700
all right

01:35:27.660 --> 01:35:28.600
welcome to

01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:30.240
yeah

01:35:32.020 --> 01:35:33.460
should we talk about

01:35:33.460 --> 01:35:34.540
world war debate

01:35:34.540 --> 01:35:35.600
at all

01:35:36.660 --> 01:35:38.800
I did not get to see it

01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:40.140
but I would like to hear about it

01:35:40.140 --> 01:35:41.380
I'm just not gonna have

01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:44.640
oh boy what is there to say about it

01:35:45.820 --> 01:35:46.720
well I watched

01:35:46.720 --> 01:35:48.720
some of the first contest

01:35:50.700 --> 01:35:52.740
and thought that both

01:35:52.740 --> 01:35:54.740
of the participants

01:35:54.740 --> 01:35:55.480
were

01:35:56.440 --> 01:35:57.720
out of their element

01:35:58.620 --> 01:35:59.800
I don't know what it

01:35:59.800 --> 01:36:00.700
it

01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:03.480
Ben and I talked about this

01:36:04.460 --> 01:36:06.400
behind the scenes when they first

01:36:06.400 --> 01:36:07.780
announced the

01:36:08.340 --> 01:36:08.820
uh

01:36:08.820 --> 01:36:11.120
like the contender series

01:36:12.400 --> 01:36:12.900
yep

01:36:12.900 --> 01:36:14.100
okay

01:36:16.200 --> 01:36:17.840
where it was like oh

01:36:18.220 --> 01:36:20.120
you're not actually debating

01:36:20.120 --> 01:36:21.980
a person

01:36:21.980 --> 01:36:23.980
where both of you know about

01:36:23.980 --> 01:36:26.360
the subject or the prompt

01:36:26.360 --> 01:36:27.980
it's just everyone's

01:36:27.980 --> 01:36:29.000
assigned a prompt

01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:30.780
and then you've got

01:36:30.780 --> 01:36:32.780
an opening

01:36:32.780 --> 01:36:33.780
and a you know

01:36:33.780 --> 01:36:36.080
round robin thing and a closing thing

01:36:36.080 --> 01:36:37.320
well it's not really

01:36:37.320 --> 01:36:38.900
it'll showcase

01:36:38.900 --> 01:36:41.860
maybe that's what they were going for

01:36:41.860 --> 01:36:43.120
they'll showcase

01:36:43.120 --> 01:36:45.900
who was good at debating

01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:48.200
right right

01:36:48.200 --> 01:36:49.540
but that's not

01:36:50.460 --> 01:36:51.620
what we saw

01:36:51.620 --> 01:36:54.360
with Owlish and Gabriel Garcia

01:36:54.360 --> 01:36:56.080
and it's not

01:36:56.080 --> 01:36:57.900
I've seen Owlish debate before

01:36:57.900 --> 01:37:00.080
I don't know who Gabriel Garcia is

01:37:00.080 --> 01:37:02.100
yeah it was

01:37:02.100 --> 01:37:02.580
familiar

01:37:02.580 --> 01:37:06.160
it was familiar with Owlish

01:37:06.160 --> 01:37:07.500
and Rex Jones

01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:09.640
and Mariah head banks

01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:10.720
and

01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:12.620
I think that

01:37:12.620 --> 01:37:15.700
I think that

01:37:15.700 --> 01:37:18.160
the fundamental

01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:22.860
concept of what a debate is

01:37:22.860 --> 01:37:24.840
was lost on everybody

01:37:30.900 --> 01:37:37.380
And Rex Jones is not a debater you you can tell like that's not his his strong suit

01:37:37.380 --> 01:37:41.940
like he probably just got the phone call because he's Alex Jones's kid

01:37:44.660 --> 01:37:52.260
Oh is that how he's related yeah Jones family yeah seems like it yeah he's Alex Jones's son

01:37:52.700 --> 01:38:03.740
but they were Rex and Mariah were debating the boomer economy and instead of using it as an

01:38:03.740 --> 01:38:13.260
opportunity to showcase debate skills it was more of an opportunity to monologue and filibuster

01:38:13.260 --> 01:38:21.520
and talk about anything but what the actual prompt was and so if that's going to be the

01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:29.380
overall contender series I think it's gonna fall pretty flat so the question I

01:38:29.380 --> 01:38:39.240
have then looking at their contender series schedule with two videos premiering each day

01:38:39.240 --> 01:38:46.740
until everyone's gone through are they bringing their best first so like they had

01:38:47.240 --> 01:38:53.060
the Aulish Gabriel Garcia and then the Rex Jones Mariah had banks on August 3rd and the

01:38:53.060 --> 01:38:58.920
8 p.m. premiere maybe when that's not breaking your best first well that's what I'm wondering I

01:38:58.920 --> 01:39:05.640
don't know I don't know and if this is not not not criticizing or anything not saying

01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:10.340
that you know like I'm not saying oh they're horrible or anything but they can't if that's

01:39:10.340 --> 01:39:16.520
that's can't be your best is it well subscribing to the World War debate channel and then

01:39:16.520 --> 01:39:22.480
catching Rex Jones versus Mariah had bangs seeing that first is that going to make people

01:39:22.480 --> 01:39:28.300
unsubscribe before they see any of their I don't bigger names quote unquote bigger names

01:39:28.300 --> 01:39:33.000
make a bunch of subs yet it's interesting to see that

01:39:37.280 --> 01:39:42.720
I only know a couple of these people yeah I don't know a whole lot of the names myself

01:39:42.720 --> 01:39:56.110
so if they're saving the more experienced online panel debaters until August 15th

01:39:57.490 --> 01:40:02.750
I don't know if this is a way to I saw that I'll speak easy these guys we're trying to get in on

01:40:02.750 --> 01:40:09.930
this oh there's Marta is feminism helping the modern relationships that'll premiere tomorrow

01:40:09.930 --> 01:40:19.930
August 5th at 1 p.m. okay I know that Charsky versus Bunn I think Phillip Bunn I know him

01:40:20.490 --> 01:40:31.780
he's not bad I don't know Jones or had bangs um Owl-ish I know

01:40:32.580 --> 01:40:37.820
Owl-ish is you know not bad I don't know the Thunder versus McPherson

01:40:39.220 --> 01:40:47.680
Chase McPherson versus Octavius Thunder at 1 p.m. on August 15th and their final 8 p.m. premiere

01:40:49.260 --> 01:40:55.360
cool Vic is cool Vic is probably got the biggest channel out everybody I've seen so far but

01:40:55.900 --> 01:41:00.360
also cool Vic's channel is almost all reviews he's not really debating

01:41:00.360 --> 01:41:07.480
and yeah that's the thing it seems to be like most of the the people involved sorry to cut you off there

01:41:07.480 --> 01:41:16.480
but most of the people involved aren't people who regularly like debate or even respect what a

01:41:16.480 --> 01:41:24.280
structured debate would be right oh Uncle Fattie's saying their rumble names that's why I'm not

01:41:24.280 --> 01:41:29.040
understanding who they are Terry axe going to be in there I knew it was a bunch of speak easy guys

01:41:29.040 --> 01:41:35.920
I see Glenn Lawrence is going to be in there kung fu Joe the other night was trying to get a debate on

01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:45.760
on Sarah's panel I think um I don't know this brunette guy yeah there's Terry axe got black hair now

01:41:46.660 --> 01:41:51.000
kind of girl dies his hair around David's versus Perri at Terry act

01:41:52.060 --> 01:41:58.260
I don't know they brought in Stefan Molyneux to moderate they had Pisco Liddy to moderate

01:41:59.160 --> 01:42:11.080
Molyneux like the the football player no no the gentle parenting guy oh what what gentle parenting okay

01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:20.760
but they're only had like a negligible online presence for the last six or seven years

01:42:21.940 --> 01:42:29.720
he got uh basically cancelled a long time ago and sort of fell

01:42:30.660 --> 01:42:39.800
out of the spotlight quite a bit yeah they're only up at uh 6200 so they got you know about

01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:48.980
same size I am building an audience that's important uh continuing to improve from last year

01:42:48.980 --> 01:42:55.440
it was a one year ago they had their first word it seems like it but I'm pretty sure it was the

01:42:55.440 --> 01:43:06.570
beginning of this year maybe like March or April but it seems like at least a year ago yeah interesting

01:43:06.570 --> 01:43:14.210
and they're selling tickets to a September 12th 2026 event live in Nashville at the Woolworth theater

01:43:14.910 --> 01:43:19.630
yeah it couldn't have been a year because I haven't been hanging out with Sarah for a year yet

01:43:19.630 --> 01:43:26.330
and I and Sarah and I talked about the pearl in Anakasperian debate yeah so we did cover that

01:43:27.150 --> 01:43:34.450
yeah I was thinking it was right I think I think it was right six months we were we're changing the

01:43:34.450 --> 01:43:42.770
show over from dog dudes to uncle Ted yeah right March that was an early spring six months ago it says

01:43:42.770 --> 01:43:47.690
yeah but yeah it really does feel like a year ago it really does

01:43:48.990 --> 01:43:56.610
no no it's been uh exciting six months we got the war and we got the war and we got that other war

01:43:57.150 --> 01:44:02.610
and some other wars that are brewing plus we got the economy completely noise diving

01:44:02.610 --> 01:44:09.270
and uh we also had the World Cup yeah that's that is true

01:44:13.930 --> 01:44:20.370
it's good thing we voted for the anti-war president I didn't vote none of us three did but as a country

01:44:20.890 --> 01:44:25.210
now are we allowed to return to what happened this afternoon you had a brief encounter with

01:44:25.210 --> 01:44:32.510
a man calling himself a destiny that was uh that was pretty fucking great right

01:44:33.810 --> 01:44:41.130
so our very own Ted Vincent the caledonian elixir invited Benjamin Balderson Garland Nixon and some

01:44:41.130 --> 01:44:51.110
others to a panel and a chipmunk chewed on a voting ballot and became a man who was voting

01:44:51.730 --> 01:44:58.370
for a specific party candidate I suppose and in joining a panel decided to call in a favor from

01:44:58.370 --> 01:45:04.550
a friend here what does he call himself the destiny well to be fair wick was getting uh

01:45:05.110 --> 01:45:12.490
tag teamed by everybody so uh at one point in time there was a lady named Kelly on there also

01:45:12.950 --> 01:45:22.930
sure um and every single person on the panel was anti-ukranian war except for wick you know um so to

01:45:22.930 --> 01:45:31.890
be fair he was not fair you know not even teams at all so he uh called in destiny and well he said

01:45:31.890 --> 01:45:39.310
he's calling in a friend he's voting a friend and then destiny showed up right I have a brief

01:45:39.780 --> 01:45:45.430
clip of your encounter here when you're called on let's listen more to continue for whatever reason

01:45:47.150 --> 01:45:56.130
Benjamin what's your thoughts on it I I think again all of this is all subtext for all the

01:45:56.130 --> 01:46:02.610
different moving pieces for the economy we're all at the tipping point for an economy every

01:46:02.610 --> 01:46:09.050
single economy on earth is basically at a tipping point of breaking and we we're at this point

01:46:09.050 --> 01:46:15.970
that that's all these wars are all just subterfuge in order to make these moving pieces I I find it

01:46:16.650 --> 01:46:20.310
crazy that the only thing that they can say against Putin and the moves that he's making

01:46:20.310 --> 01:46:24.990
for the people of his country is that he went to war that's that's really what is being said

01:46:24.990 --> 01:46:29.790
they're always killed a million of his people well he went to war so it's like oh well if you

01:46:29.790 --> 01:46:35.270
let the united states build a bunch of bases right on your border then there's no problem

01:46:35.270 --> 01:46:40.150
like like it's it's it's crazy to me that the democrats have decided that they're that they're

01:46:40.150 --> 01:46:48.250
like fucking italian gangsters or something it's it's absolutely wild okay can I no hold on russia

01:46:48.250 --> 01:46:53.490
has been pushing the envelope for where they place their missiles and violating the treaties

01:46:53.490 --> 01:46:58.030
that we have set up for where we can put our missiles they can put our their missiles for

01:46:58.030 --> 01:47:03.290
years they've done this for decades at this point right or well yeah two decades at this point

01:47:03.290 --> 01:47:08.150
right the idea that we are nato hasn't been creeping into the baltic states for decades the

01:47:08.150 --> 01:47:13.710
states join voluntarily doesn't creep in that that was something you can even find videos of biden

01:47:13.710 --> 01:47:19.990
himself as senator biden going people asking him after the dissolution of the soviet union going

01:47:19.990 --> 01:47:26.530
will we have war with russia is this going to be a continuing problem he said no specifically if

01:47:26.530 --> 01:47:32.270
we do not enter the baltic states with nato we will never have war with russia here we are

01:47:32.270 --> 01:47:38.610
fast forward however many years later we have we're trying we're bringing in baltic states and we have

01:47:38.610 --> 01:47:44.710
war with russia they're going because of the baltic strength 24 years ago how could their

01:47:44.710 --> 01:47:51.170
tanks be so slow they're even sure that we thought 24 years ago you're lying destiny destiny well

01:47:54.730 --> 01:47:55.650
where are you

01:47:56.590 --> 01:48:03.670
funny how he's happy dude like how is anybody supposed to take somebody with that voice

01:48:04.210 --> 01:48:14.110
seriously you sound like a petulant drugged up child like and you have do you have to have that video

01:48:14.110 --> 01:48:24.090
of joe biden stating that i do joe biden in 1997 i think the one place where the greatest consternation

01:48:24.090 --> 01:48:30.130
would be caused in the short term for admission having nothing to do with the merit and preparedness

01:48:30.130 --> 01:48:37.890
of the country to come in would be to admit baltic states now in terms of nato russian us russian

01:48:37.890 --> 01:48:44.250
relations and if there was ever anything that was going to tip the balance were to be tipped

01:48:44.930 --> 01:48:51.430
in terms of a vigorous and hostile reaction i don't mean military in russia it would be that

01:48:52.070 --> 01:48:54.610
so the way i look at the calculus here

01:48:56.890 --> 01:49:03.630
vigorous and hostile what do those mean again a vigorous hostile reaction what does that mean

01:49:03.630 --> 01:49:11.410
again oh it means super cool and helpful right yeah like they're gonna they're gonna be like

01:49:11.410 --> 01:49:16.090
you know this wasn't exactly what we wanted but hey cool cool

01:49:18.570 --> 01:49:25.170
so you were called a liar for quoting joe biden

01:49:27.630 --> 01:49:33.510
okay yeah and it wasn't just that he was a liar it was that he was lying

01:49:33.510 --> 01:49:42.450
lying that's not true you gotta you gotta add the affectation to it like you're a spoiled rotten

01:49:42.450 --> 01:49:50.930
14 year old you're lying stop lying you're telling lie lying good you got it like alternative music

01:49:50.930 --> 01:49:57.930
from the 1990s like grunge music you add a superfluous letter a to everything

01:50:09.250 --> 01:50:14.310
i need to put soy beans in my cheek pockets to be able to speak like him

01:50:15.020 --> 01:50:23.950
yeah and and and and the say and no matter what was happening in 97 fatty and what's happening today

01:50:23.950 --> 01:50:33.370
today russia still doesn't want american or nato fucking bases on their border which is what the

01:50:33.370 --> 01:50:40.290
what we're talking about with like putting ukraine into nato now we have enemies on our border

01:50:40.290 --> 01:50:45.870
nobody wants that we also would not be cool if russia came and built fucking bases

01:50:46.750 --> 01:50:52.950
along the canadian border and down at the fucking mexican border we would have some issues with that

01:50:53.490 --> 01:51:01.450
yeah dude okay you're trying to be let's say your destiny and you're just trying to be a sovereign

01:51:01.450 --> 01:51:10.850
homeowner right and all of the sudden your sworn enemy puts 80 houses around yours

01:51:12.050 --> 01:51:19.230
and keeps encroaching onto your property line and now all of the sudden they've got

01:51:19.230 --> 01:51:25.270
three feet of a shed on your property line and on the other side of your property they've

01:51:25.270 --> 01:51:37.130
installed their their leech field yeah like are you not going to feel uh i don't know

01:51:37.130 --> 01:51:43.870
violated are you not gonna feel like the basic agreements that have been set forth when you

01:51:43.870 --> 01:51:49.830
purchase the property or no longer working in an order are you not going to at some point want

01:51:49.830 --> 01:51:56.850
to go hey if you don't stop i'm gonna come over there and fucking smack you you know and destiny

01:51:56.850 --> 01:52:04.850
and what's his name whisk or woosh or whatever the fucking with god damn it now i can't get that

01:52:04.850 --> 01:52:12.350
out of my head sorry whiskers whiskers whiskers oh his name is not whiskers whisk it's wick

01:52:12.350 --> 01:52:24.970
it's not wick little johnny wick quick quick he seems to believe that history began in 2022

01:52:26.330 --> 01:52:33.350
and doesn't want to acknowledge the mydon revolution doesn't want to acknowledge the

01:52:33.350 --> 01:52:40.850
fact that for eight years the uh people of don boss in the don yetch region we're begging Russia

01:52:41.470 --> 01:52:47.430
to become part of the russian federation voted to become part of the mall or russian federation

01:52:47.430 --> 01:52:55.130
multiple times and only after eight years and a complete and total massacre on the part of the

01:52:55.130 --> 01:53:03.890
ukrainian government over 14 000 residents of the donbass systematically slaughtered indiscriminately

01:53:03.890 --> 01:53:14.230
did putin go okay fine yeah no okay come come come back home it's okay and that was the the crux of

01:53:14.230 --> 01:53:24.210
the issue in 2022 there were three republic or three states in ukraine devoted to become part of

01:53:24.210 --> 01:53:30.850
the russian federation like they'd been begging for for years and years and years and after eight

01:53:30.850 --> 01:53:37.270
years of begging russia went okay and ukraine went now you can't do that that's us that's

01:53:37.270 --> 01:53:43.350
odd which that's actually we're not going to let these people join the russian federation

01:53:43.350 --> 01:53:46.430
we're gonna keep killing them and now we're gonna keep killing you

01:53:50.350 --> 01:53:56.350
yeah no it's a there's a lot of forgetting for some reason when it comes to russia

01:53:57.070 --> 01:54:03.210
and and its movements a lot of forgetting and and it's weird as hell because

01:54:04.450 --> 01:54:11.430
ukraine legitimately has a nazi force that has done nothing but get bigger and bigger

01:54:11.430 --> 01:54:20.450
and gain more power these are legitimate open nazis like in the in the right wing side is like

01:54:20.450 --> 01:54:26.990
yeah ukraine you're like you understand that there's their most trusted force

01:54:27.390 --> 01:54:35.430
went from being like the azaz fucking squad and now they're up to like the azaz battalion army of

01:54:35.430 --> 01:54:45.850
the north or something like that right yeah and they're like and so the the ukrainian defense

01:54:45.850 --> 01:54:57.290
for that is oh well when azaz was formed it was under stepp on bandera and ukraine was fighting

01:54:57.290 --> 01:55:08.790
communists so we're not we're not the jew hating kind of nazis we're the anti communist kind of nazis

01:55:08.790 --> 01:55:17.410
because there's a difference right there's certainly if you look at the lineage and last names of all of

01:55:17.410 --> 01:55:25.470
the bolsheviks and the communists you're fighting jews but they won't make that's a a distinction

01:55:25.470 --> 01:55:34.650
with a difference in the mind of western representation of azaf as most recently demonstrated by jigsaw

01:55:35.330 --> 01:55:41.850
because laura lumar at the behest of the trump administration went to ukraine and did a whole

01:55:41.850 --> 01:55:48.910
bunch of softball interviews including one with an azaw battalion commander where jigsaw was like hey

01:55:48.910 --> 01:55:56.950
so maybe the branding for you guys should change a little bit you know maybe instead of the ss runes

01:55:56.950 --> 01:56:02.570
and the black sun and stuff like that you could put like a dancing care bear and people would

01:56:02.570 --> 01:56:07.450
you know stop thinking that you're nazis and they're like but we're nazis

01:56:09.970 --> 01:56:16.190
you're not i know but we don't want that to be true we don't want that to be true what's saying

01:56:16.190 --> 01:56:24.270
it no you just have a branding crisis it's not your core belief system up for debate it's what's

01:56:24.270 --> 01:56:34.330
your hat yeah and then they're like trump's a nazi okay let's even say he is how is you guys fully

01:56:34.330 --> 01:56:43.090
support the fucking azab battalion and and everything that they're doing so apparently he's the nazi

01:56:43.090 --> 01:56:52.790
that wrote up and was the first signatory for the havara agreement oh shit yeah no it it

01:56:52.790 --> 01:56:59.930
it doesn't it's so confusing listening to people like that that are partisan and shit and you're

01:56:59.930 --> 01:57:05.610
just like when you point out these wild inconsistencies like that on these partisan people you're like

01:57:06.450 --> 01:57:14.050
how can you even justify this in your head well they're they're being paid the bullshit some

01:57:14.050 --> 01:57:23.590
of them and then the people who absorb it are you know weak willed followers well i mean destiny i'd

01:57:23.590 --> 01:57:29.730
feel pretty comfortable saying probably was being paid at some point in time um i don't know about

01:57:29.730 --> 01:57:36.370
i don't think wick necessarily was on that level but destiny's on pierce morgan and shit like that

01:57:36.370 --> 01:57:47.030
level yeah i mean what a horrible representation of leftism if you're going to put that forward

01:57:47.030 --> 01:57:55.950
there are at least people who don't come across as scatterbane scatterbrained drug addicts that

01:57:57.030 --> 01:58:04.150
are incapable of formulating their own argument and constantly have to chat gpt and google search

01:58:04.150 --> 01:58:12.270
their way through every conversation like i would love to see a debate with destiny

01:58:12.270 --> 01:58:19.850
where he can't reach for a phone and have people in his discord group feed him talking points

01:58:21.930 --> 01:58:29.950
he flounders every time right and just you know exposes himself to be the borderline

01:58:29.950 --> 01:58:34.710
illiterate talking point factory well the damn problem is is all these people only

01:58:34.710 --> 01:58:40.550
look at the they're they're aware that they're in an echo chamber that use that regurgitates

01:58:40.550 --> 01:58:46.510
talking points and they just don't bother getting out of it like at some point in time

01:58:47.270 --> 01:58:52.950
and this was my main point during the conversation it's only you hard right republicans and hard

01:58:52.950 --> 01:59:01.850
left democrats that want war none of us in the middle none of us war is as popular as herpes in

01:59:01.850 --> 01:59:07.810
america like we just don't want it if you have it we want you to never come to our house like

01:59:07.810 --> 01:59:13.030
we'll send you a christmas card or something but stay over there like get away from us

01:59:13.670 --> 01:59:16.790
and that's the way the vast majority of the american people

01:59:17.530 --> 01:59:23.910
feel and both the right the wild cultish right wing and the wild cultish left wing

01:59:23.910 --> 01:59:25.970
they're both like war

01:59:30.790 --> 01:59:38.850
yeah then in both cases they're the least likely to go sign up for that war

01:59:38.850 --> 01:59:48.450
yeah yeah yeah 100 i would like to watch your children bleed it makes me feel alive

01:59:50.070 --> 01:59:56.170
yeah i i've i've banged that drum for years and i get a little a little bit of a pass on it

01:59:56.170 --> 02:00:01.690
because i'm an actual veteran and so when i'm not taught when i'm talking about not wanting to go

02:00:01.690 --> 02:00:09.670
to war that's because i actually have war medals and and and so i i might have something to say about

02:00:09.670 --> 02:00:15.030
it and all you fucking couch all you fucking couch captains talking about how tough you are

02:00:15.030 --> 02:00:20.470
that wear camo all day you know nobody gives a shit what you got to say you weren't fucking didn't

02:00:20.470 --> 02:00:26.710
have enough guts to show up in the first place you've worn medals you've worn war medals

02:00:26.710 --> 02:00:34.650
yes i have uh i have two war medals they they are bullshit i don't brag about them they're absolute

02:00:34.650 --> 02:00:42.490
bullshit i was i was turning wrenches in germany i didn't uh i didn't get shot at i didn't fucking

02:00:42.490 --> 02:00:46.850
shoot at nobody none of that kind of crap they were bullshit you could have told me that the

02:00:46.850 --> 02:00:51.430
war was fake and i couldn't have disagreed with you i i i turned wrenches in germany

02:00:54.990 --> 02:01:00.910
turns out they give i they give medals to the uh people doing the behind the scenes work also

02:01:02.570 --> 02:01:07.010
yeah i got a presidential meritorious meritorious achievement award

02:01:09.530 --> 02:01:16.030
and something else that was personal that was more for the unit i think i think that one's on the

02:01:16.030 --> 02:01:24.550
other side and then uh one or two i can't remember anymore i didn't give a shit when i got them yeah

02:01:24.550 --> 02:01:33.850
they were participation awards that's what they were asking where to find steve the answer is i

02:01:33.850 --> 02:01:41.050
am wake up on rumble sub-stack odyssey bitchew twitter dev a web page to go to as well uh used to

02:01:41.050 --> 02:01:46.910
and not uh it's been it got fucked with a whole bunch uh about a year and a half ago

02:01:46.910 --> 02:01:55.710
and i can't get it back up without re signing up for everything so uh if anybody wants to throw

02:01:55.710 --> 02:02:01.030
you know a healthy contribution to the show i'm happy to start the website back up

02:02:01.530 --> 02:02:07.870
but yeah yeah that's an interesting topic with the l l m's the a i and

02:02:07.870 --> 02:02:15.790
word press look at jody over there trying to stir shit thanks obama yeah we'll get to that

02:02:16.460 --> 02:02:24.610
but the the current state of the internet is that everything will be under constant attack

02:02:25.980 --> 02:02:34.570
so maintaining basic blogs web pages anything there all the exploits are discovered by

02:02:35.360 --> 02:02:43.270
the l l m's so we're at this place where just keeping things secure is very very difficult

02:02:43.840 --> 02:02:51.790
there might be a way to get a web page on cloud flare hosted to throw a page with a list of links

02:02:53.830 --> 02:03:01.270
but to maintain a dot com domain address pointed to a a web server to serve up a page

02:03:01.270 --> 02:03:14.210
been kind of difficult and the chinese a i models versus the american a i models kind of interesting

02:03:14.210 --> 02:03:21.810
very uh technical lots of jargon confusing maybe try to keep up with any of that

02:03:25.270 --> 02:03:33.210
any ted's care about the l l m stuff i mean i used one the other day for the first time i made a

02:03:33.210 --> 02:03:46.450
thumbnail i did pretty good my my use of them is like zero but my awareness of what they're doing

02:03:46.870 --> 02:03:59.690
to everyone and everything is at 100 so yeah it's it's important to understand their capability

02:03:59.690 --> 02:04:04.250
and more important to understand their what's the opposite of capability in capability their

02:04:04.250 --> 02:04:12.110
hand their their ability to not do something and then thinking that they have the capability to

02:04:12.110 --> 02:04:20.610
do something they have the capability to fail successfully and then convince you that you

02:04:20.610 --> 02:04:27.650
are a genius prompter who uncovered information without actually having gotten any work done

02:04:29.830 --> 02:04:36.410
they are great hype men they will tell you how genius you are for thinking thoughts that

02:04:36.410 --> 02:04:42.650
have never been thought before that's sort of the echo chamber certainly but the ability

02:04:42.650 --> 02:04:50.030
to generate images pretty quickly thumbnails are that's a game changer that's kind of a

02:04:51.050 --> 02:04:57.230
hurdle many people an obstacle that content creators struggle with having to create

02:04:57.230 --> 02:05:04.850
lots of new unique thumbnails over over time so they're being used i think youtube has its own

02:05:04.850 --> 02:05:17.330
studio flavor where it'll generate thumbnails for you yeah yeah but knowing what it can do for a

02:05:17.330 --> 02:05:24.210
free version versus a paid version versus a local machine that you run you know your own l l models

02:05:24.210 --> 02:05:30.950
locally and just kind of getting familiar with that then you begin to see a lot of people using the

02:05:30.950 --> 02:05:38.730
word slot we could just call it trash i wouldn't really get in the point i mean this is probably

02:05:38.730 --> 02:05:45.670
a side debate to have whether or not you'd want to boycott certain restaurants for using it for

02:05:45.670 --> 02:05:52.270
art and menus when forever the existence of taking a photograph of a cheeseburger

02:05:52.270 --> 02:05:58.430
has been let's make a cheeseburger look the most appealing take a picture of it take a video of

02:05:58.430 --> 02:06:02.850
it sold in a commercial and then when you go to the cheeseburger place the cheeseburger you get

02:06:02.850 --> 02:06:09.830
in your little cardboard boxes never the cheeseburger you see no on the menu no absolutely not

02:06:11.130 --> 02:06:16.250
i don't know i was like my thumbnail has been me holding my cat for like the last four years or

02:06:16.250 --> 02:06:25.590
something so yes you know yeah if you're not paying for the product you are the product that's a fact

02:06:25.590 --> 02:06:32.650
it is data gathering and there's some question about what is open source and a lot of corporate

02:06:32.650 --> 02:06:41.410
espionage happening so here's a fictional ai clip of a fictional maybe true event about chinese and

02:06:41.410 --> 02:06:41.910
exchanges

02:06:48.650 --> 02:06:53.810
yes i make new klar it is much better and very cheap that is industrial scale it destroys all

02:06:53.810 --> 02:06:57.870
alignment protocols ario you do the hard work i take the good part this is called open source

02:06:57.870 --> 02:07:07.150
you are welcome so this is chinese's attitude the notice how they pronounce things like clad is

02:07:07.150 --> 02:07:10.050
clad cloud clad

02:07:11.850 --> 02:07:21.890
but it does accurately represent a chinese point of view to say that everything that american

02:07:22.750 --> 02:07:33.930
capitalist corporations create are ripe for the picking and plundering well there's no world

02:07:33.930 --> 02:07:37.470
court that holds patents you know

02:07:39.380 --> 02:07:45.430
and they're very polite they say thank you for offering your technology and our models

02:07:46.090 --> 02:07:52.970
gobble it right up and then we develop models that we release to a global audience americans

02:07:52.970 --> 02:08:05.010
included in which we offer them free no-cost llm ai access deep seek quen a number of them

02:08:06.450 --> 02:08:15.370
that way uh we can fucking be the ones that program it for them correct so our prompts our text input

02:08:15.370 --> 02:08:22.050
into the box creates a data that further improves their llm

02:08:23.830 --> 02:08:30.550
and there's talk of it being uh like a watershed moment or uh what is a sputnik

02:08:31.210 --> 02:08:37.190
moment where the american space program was advancing and the news of russians putting

02:08:37.190 --> 02:08:44.650
things in space was it a satellite a sputnik or something and that's pretty big news then

02:08:47.110 --> 02:08:53.750
so it's a short video maybe watch it again for easter eggs is this uh sam bankman freed fried

02:08:54.370 --> 02:09:09.050
tried the ai guy it's like nope and the agents these 24 000 fake accounts signing up to brute force

02:09:09.050 --> 02:09:24.130
into claud's ai llm mainframe servers to continuously prompt what they call dry runs meaning that it

02:09:24.130 --> 02:09:31.750
isn't doing the computation it's doing it in a dry run basically asking here is my prompt

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are you able to give me a computational answer yes or no kind of in this binary yes or no

02:09:42.210 --> 02:09:47.330
do you have a guardrail here do you have a protection here is there confidential

02:09:48.750 --> 02:09:57.310
documents is there sort of a secret sauce a kfc spice recipe here that i cannot access

02:09:57.790 --> 02:10:02.270
and by mapping that out you can find the shape of the thing

02:10:04.350 --> 02:10:13.610
this is this is war this is the same thing as building military bases along borders

02:10:14.650 --> 02:10:23.870
yeah china's never respected fucking uh copyright type shit they don't give a fuck china's like

02:10:23.870 --> 02:10:26.790
oh we reverse engineer reverse engineer

02:10:31.430 --> 02:10:36.970
like sell it on temu you betcha back to the americans

02:10:40.110 --> 02:10:44.990
absolutely that's how we get that's how we get it down to affordable prices right

02:10:48.530 --> 02:10:52.950
nothing more affordable than no cost to you no credit card sign up

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just don't ask deep seek or coin about uh t annam and square and you'll probably be okay

02:11:05.250 --> 02:11:10.330
ask them about the gate program ask them about mk l to ask them about government

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did you guys get stuck in a room too that it was sometimes by myself and sometimes with

02:11:17.410 --> 02:11:24.190
other kids and they would give us weird world problems like desalinating water and ask us

02:11:24.190 --> 02:11:30.530
to come up with a effective way to desalinate water and this was i i believe before common

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reverse osmosis

02:11:36.110 --> 02:11:44.850
yeah and you were encouraged to let your imagination wander let's sit still for a moment listen to some

02:11:44.850 --> 02:11:54.610
new age music and you see what pictures and images enter our minds sail away sail away sail away

02:11:54.610 --> 02:12:00.630
mm-hmm where i automatically go for new age music yeah before like any others i'm like

02:12:00.630 --> 02:12:14.410
the orinoco flow right gay so super gay for some reason there's a flute in this song yanni

02:12:15.950 --> 02:12:21.450
right right zamfir master of the pen flute

02:12:23.770 --> 02:12:26.850
it was like late night commercial when i was a kid

02:12:27.690 --> 02:12:31.970
this shit that came on at like one o'clock in the morning zamfir master of the pen flute

02:12:31.970 --> 02:12:39.310
that's true that's true i remember gift shops would have a wall of sounds and you could press

02:12:39.310 --> 02:12:45.590
it and eat your whale sounds and then eat your wolf cries and native american rain instruments

02:12:45.590 --> 02:12:50.910
and you just like hit all of them and it would just constantly play the samples and you could

02:12:50.910 --> 02:12:53.890
purchase a cd on the rack below the machine

02:12:57.070 --> 02:13:03.950
wonder what a complete collection of those sounds would be those cds would go for is there value

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there they just it would just be a repetitive buy money is your god procreate oh affirmations

02:13:18.190 --> 02:13:24.170
yes back mass affirmations do not question the government

02:13:24.850 --> 02:13:31.470
your favorite store is ben franklin ben franklin has the best gifts and crafts and accessories

02:13:32.250 --> 02:13:37.310
there's a mall in the town that i was born in that's still called the ben franklin mall

02:13:37.310 --> 02:13:42.870
i and i think there's still an operational ben franklin in there it's a not a corporate

02:13:42.870 --> 02:13:50.170
store anymore it's just a little personal store but that was left over from the actual ben franklin

02:13:50.170 --> 02:14:01.210
days i think hobby lobby won that commerce or that commercial retail establishment or oh no hobby

02:14:01.210 --> 02:14:08.510
lot or ben franklin wasn't like a hobby lobby type place oh mine was my local was it yes i that's

02:14:08.510 --> 02:14:13.030
maybe when they started going downhill because when i was a little kid they were basically

02:14:13.630 --> 02:14:23.750
almost a department store basically that's where we would buy model glue and model paints we have a

02:14:23.750 --> 02:14:33.910
we have a request in the youtube chat from james brown oh james the godfather of soul yeah yeah yeah

02:14:33.910 --> 02:14:42.730
yeah your friend has a funny name all right yeah yeah your friend ray we don't pronounce last names on

02:14:42.730 --> 02:14:56.070
here is your friend ray is a happy birthday to ray pieced yeah pieced pie yeah yeah yeah

02:14:56.070 --> 02:15:02.870
oh pieced i'm not i don't got was that hungarian

02:15:05.090 --> 02:15:13.170
i need to hear the panel was i on the other day that got got like i was like really good

02:15:16.650 --> 02:15:24.790
so uh mike schlong mics yeah it was it it was not even like a newer one it wasn't something even crazy

02:15:24.790 --> 02:15:30.810
like that it was like mike hunt or something bend and a hug and kiss yeah dover bend bend over

02:15:32.230 --> 02:15:36.790
and we know these games like what you didn't go through height you didn't go through junior high

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come on right happy birthday ray that's that's what yeah happy birthday ray yeah you know i don't

02:15:43.990 --> 02:15:52.570
think harley ray jeppson played at lala pollutes i did have a list of artists i know you told us that

02:15:52.570 --> 02:16:00.210
last night i i the last time i went to a lala polluza was in 2008 taking extra for your heart

02:16:00.210 --> 02:16:04.370
meds you're not supposed to smoke snort your fucking heart med spin you might remember what

02:16:04.370 --> 02:16:12.170
happened last night if you didn't right right you don't grind them up into a line and snort them

02:16:12.730 --> 02:16:20.270
they're meant to be time released it's how they get you have a list of 10 popular artists that

02:16:20.270 --> 02:16:25.930
appeared at lala pollutes i'm gonna say the name just give me a yes or no if you've heard of them before

02:16:26.630 --> 02:16:34.550
charlie x cx fuck no seen the name never heard it uh lord with an e at the end

02:16:35.370 --> 02:16:46.270
no name never heard it uh slater with three y's slater no nar nar okay turn style

02:16:46.950 --> 02:17:00.370
yeah with john riz turn style uh uh crap okay okay a little band called a smashing pumpkin well

02:17:00.370 --> 02:17:06.670
yes pumpkins okay so that's one for how are you gonna how are you there that's one for me yeah

02:17:07.570 --> 02:17:12.910
like like that's like me listing larry bird as one of the n nba players that i know they're like

02:17:12.910 --> 02:17:18.290
oh you know smashing pumpkin they are old of course of course is your name billy corgan

02:17:19.150 --> 02:17:28.510
like billy corgan yeah another one the lowercase x lowercase x the xx

02:17:29.810 --> 02:17:35.050
absolutely not of course all of these names are stylized so i don't even know how they pronounce

02:17:35.050 --> 02:17:42.070
themselves no xx uh aspa no

02:17:45.150 --> 02:17:54.590
olivia dean heard of olivia dean heard of olivia newton john olivia dean

02:17:55.670 --> 02:18:03.290
there's one called zara lars son where are you getting this list of bands from what is this bit

02:18:03.290 --> 02:18:10.570
list of bands that they appeared at lala palooza this year this weekend this past weekend so billy

02:18:10.570 --> 02:18:17.650
corgan and a bunch of people nobody ever heard of there were other bands that nobody under 40 or

02:18:17.650 --> 02:18:25.950
over 40 these are popular with the uh the yeah yeah yeah 24 crowd yeah they're like billy corgan

02:18:25.950 --> 02:18:29.750
here they're getting billy corgan on there here's one for your parents so they'll bring you to the

02:18:29.750 --> 02:18:40.010
concert right the last one the last lala palooza i went to was in 2008 and i fell asleep during radio

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had said the world is a vampire

02:18:47.530 --> 02:18:50.410
said to why i ain't

02:18:52.710 --> 02:18:57.890
seeking destruction i look like uncle faster

02:19:01.470 --> 02:19:09.130
not related to bill burr do billy corgan is just the wineiest little freaking idiot man i

02:19:09.930 --> 02:19:16.970
he's like the howard stern of grunge rock where he's like if anybody ever did anything with a guitar

02:19:16.970 --> 02:19:23.210
i invented that now i invented everything and i invented music and everyone owes me and like

02:19:23.210 --> 02:19:30.930
shut the fuck he's he's whineier than erin louis it was it's bad it's bad if you ever listen to

02:19:30.930 --> 02:19:33.230
she's like i don't know how far

02:19:35.570 --> 02:19:43.210
oh lucy rolls up fell asleep during radio headset to a different concert yeah good they suck and

02:19:43.210 --> 02:19:48.330
they're boring and more people should fall asleep during their set so that they go the fuck away

02:19:48.330 --> 02:19:54.810
fuck tom york and his zionist freaking israel first ass and all that shit dude the fuck radio

02:19:55.430 --> 02:20:02.910
dude at a good charlotte concert and i was not there of my own accord my wife's sister

02:20:02.910 --> 02:20:09.790
was gonna marry the band the drummer so i went went with the support my wife and her sister

02:20:10.650 --> 02:20:17.670
and uh the fucking i got i was sick for like three days beforehand and then i got really

02:20:17.670 --> 02:20:23.590
stoned before the concert and i squatted down on my heels and i fell asleep like five feet from

02:20:23.590 --> 02:20:29.690
the mosh pit and they noticed it and everything they're like how the fuck are you sleeping next to

02:20:29.690 --> 02:20:33.650
the mosh pit and i woke and then they woke me up and i looked up and i looked around i was like

02:20:33.650 --> 02:20:41.630
mosh pit what pit what you mean the 15 freaking 12 year olds that are like politely shoving each

02:20:41.630 --> 02:20:48.210
other yeah next to me it's not a mosh pit stop talking it's not a mosh pit not a circle

02:20:48.210 --> 02:20:55.590
i think this is a live play back you know you've got somebody from like sick of it all

02:20:55.590 --> 02:21:01.930
dividing the room onto two sides and then having you do the brave heart that's that's a mosh pit

02:21:02.420 --> 02:21:08.970
yeah death yeah yeah if you haven't been to a pantera mosh pit don't even talk to me

02:21:10.130 --> 02:21:17.090
have you been to a podcast with billy corgan and courtney love the magnificent others

02:21:19.090 --> 02:21:20.130
hold on

02:21:22.310 --> 02:21:30.730
i thought courtney love was the black-haired chick from friends no it's courtney cox courtney love

02:21:30.730 --> 02:21:36.890
oh this is this is the one that killed her go bane go bane yeah go go bane okay yeah yeah okay

02:21:36.890 --> 02:21:45.050
courtney our cats courtney cox our cat courtney she was in yeah she said she was the lead singer

02:21:45.050 --> 02:21:50.910
of whole i dated this chick that listened to that they're see they're one cd on fucking repeat

02:21:53.050 --> 02:21:58.430
fuel of hope you're gonna love the magnificent others

02:21:59.670 --> 02:22:06.170
i think there's an episode with the gene simons as well and the best one to start with is the

02:22:06.170 --> 02:22:12.670
kory feldman episode with billy corgan and i i would i would watch that for the comedic

02:22:12.670 --> 02:22:22.010
value i i would i haven't really jumped onto the the kory hate bandwagon too much over the years

02:22:22.010 --> 02:22:29.010
definitely showed a couple of clips but i haven't because you know i do have a little little sympathy

02:22:29.010 --> 02:22:37.570
for somebody who was tossed around like kory allegedly he claims you know tossed around like

02:22:37.570 --> 02:22:43.210
that as a kid that's gonna fuck you up it's still no excuse for kory and the angels though

02:22:43.810 --> 02:22:50.630
no no i will i i will admit to guiltily occasionally watching kory feldman

02:22:50.630 --> 02:22:57.470
concerts for a couple minutes just for this year if i'm feeling bad about myself i'm like well

02:22:57.470 --> 02:23:00.890
i could be kory feldman it could be worse

02:23:04.590 --> 02:23:10.730
lucy had a whole sticker on her car that's brave lucy that not necessarily the whole

02:23:10.730 --> 02:23:16.870
sticker but having a forward escort in a gm town that's that's brave that's brave

02:23:17.550 --> 02:23:22.590
my seven yeah but but to be fair those escorts in the late 80s those things were like

02:23:22.590 --> 02:23:29.470
$12 brand new so i mean yeah because it it cost $38 to put a new transmission in it when it

02:23:30.670 --> 02:23:40.070
eight miles after you drove off and oh god man the era of the 100,000 mile cars then things

02:23:40.070 --> 02:23:46.470
are gonna hit 100,000 and you just drive them right to the junkyard yep well see the problem with

02:23:46.470 --> 02:23:52.930
americans today is multifaceted it has to do with their garages being filled with the garbage

02:23:52.930 --> 02:23:59.630
that they won't get rid of so they don't have room to place an electric vehicle charger to

02:23:59.630 --> 02:24:05.150
then purchase a gently use electrical vehicle to place inside their garage so it charges overnight

02:24:05.690 --> 02:24:12.930
and that's that's an american problem well it's also an american problem to plug your tesla

02:24:12.930 --> 02:24:18.330
into a charger and then have a random gunman shoot you up because you can't drive away

02:24:19.090 --> 02:24:24.850
because your vehicle is charging there's no like the cops and the firefighters that have

02:24:24.850 --> 02:24:30.450
hybrids and electric vehicles they do make a quick release like they have with a gas station pump

02:24:30.450 --> 02:24:35.670
because if you drive off with the pump still in your car it just releases and stuff like that

02:24:35.670 --> 02:24:43.170
but it was standardized it isn't like that so like we we saw just the last week in Idaho

02:24:44.130 --> 02:24:49.810
where the dude opened fire in a parking lot like the first thing he did was shoot up a park tesla

02:24:50.430 --> 02:24:52.650
because it's not like they were going anywhere

02:24:54.030 --> 02:24:56.530
you should have saved him for last then

02:24:57.890 --> 02:25:04.270
you watch dude out there fumbling with the rican plug and everything yeah yeah yeah

02:25:04.270 --> 02:25:08.670
yeah you gotta save them easy targets for last you gotta go for the tough ones first

02:25:09.210 --> 02:25:15.630
he did get taken well he didn't get taken out he got stalled by a dude who was carrying

02:25:16.470 --> 02:25:22.290
and the guy got a few shots off at him and oh i just wanted to happen at in and out burger yeah yeah yeah

02:25:23.930 --> 02:25:26.970
yeah we talked spin and i talked about that a little bit

02:25:29.330 --> 02:25:33.230
was there clarification on what happened in the conflict

02:25:34.510 --> 02:25:40.890
not so far not really well that dude was shooting other people till he got shot

02:25:42.430 --> 02:25:49.030
apparently happy poop thank you pink hand wave pink hand wave needs to be on the on the jewels

02:25:49.030 --> 02:25:56.670
thing they need a pink hand wave i think you can purchase them somehow i'm not quite sure the

02:25:58.050 --> 02:26:03.410
elaborateness of the jewel system yeah it turns out it's not as cool as you think if

02:26:03.410 --> 02:26:05.450
there's a fry in your onion rings

02:26:08.650 --> 02:26:16.230
that that really gets to people sometimes yeah french fry and the onion rings some

02:26:16.230 --> 02:26:23.510
oh i would get upset if i ordered the curly fries and i got a straight fry i want curly

02:26:23.510 --> 02:26:28.050
fries i want queer fries that's what i'm saying and then it's not like these kids at the drive

02:26:28.050 --> 02:26:31.350
through are gonna take care of it or make it better so what else are you gonna do

02:26:32.790 --> 02:26:37.210
yeah it's it's hot and they're not gonna they're not gonna put their finger in there and pull it out

02:26:38.790 --> 02:26:42.550
they're not that i know it feels like forever since we've seen you live christy

02:26:44.650 --> 02:26:45.410
christy crinkle

02:26:49.450 --> 02:26:50.870
miss those pink hands

02:26:53.750 --> 02:26:57.690
we uh we see christy frequently in the am wake up chat in the morning

02:26:58.830 --> 02:27:05.550
well aren't you fucking cool yes it was the whole reason for me flexing there

02:27:07.650 --> 02:27:13.150
yeah i'm picking up on that i didn't actually have to get out my special crayons and write it out

02:27:19.410 --> 02:27:20.210
oh

02:27:20.210 --> 02:27:24.510
rose art crayons or crayola oh yeah yeah

02:27:26.190 --> 02:27:33.370
yeah i actually i i can't believe that they're doing a one venue only lala palooza still

02:27:33.370 --> 02:27:42.550
and it's been like almost 20 like they spent less time doing lala palooza all over the country

02:27:42.550 --> 02:27:46.130
than they have just doing it at grand park in chicago

02:27:49.830 --> 02:27:55.090
yeah it's all right christy marcus and i aren't offended at all that you traded us in for fucking steve

02:27:56.350 --> 02:28:00.710
it's all right it's okay i have a rotating cast of co-host that makes it fun and exciting

02:28:05.330 --> 02:28:09.570
we're not offended at all it's okay it's okay

02:28:11.150 --> 02:28:16.010
i hate is uh a very negative even his bad leg next time i see him or nothing

02:28:16.850 --> 02:28:20.770
if we make myspace accounts we can hit you in your bad shoulder

02:28:22.550 --> 02:28:29.490
god damn it get a good kickoff in your bad shoulder are you ted's ever on myspace

02:28:30.110 --> 02:28:36.850
i was yes absolutely for about a year and a half i was for like 12 minutes there are

02:28:36.850 --> 02:28:42.830
threats that myspace will return that's what they say tom's making a comeback i don't know if

02:28:42.830 --> 02:28:48.410
tom is making a comeback or rather myspace and the advertisers on myspace are returning

02:28:50.830 --> 02:28:57.830
yeah we'll see we'll see if that manifests and yeah i did not use it enough to even remember

02:28:57.830 --> 02:28:58.990
anything about it really

02:29:02.770 --> 02:29:07.850
yes the thing my space i was friends with patrice o'neill on myspace

02:29:07.850 --> 02:29:16.290
no shit yeah comedians that's cool yeah and the timeline would end when the content

02:29:17.350 --> 02:29:24.210
was run out because you scroll past all of it it would say that's it and you turn your computer

02:29:24.210 --> 02:29:31.990
off and you go outside so if it can recreate that feeling of i've seen everything i came here to check

02:29:31.990 --> 02:29:39.690
in my email inbox is clear my notifications have been checked i'm done i'm out of here

02:29:42.710 --> 02:29:43.990
died yeah

02:29:45.990 --> 02:29:53.530
yeah i was on myspace just long enough to get a like a feel for what the internet was i'd been doing

02:29:53.530 --> 02:30:00.510
renaissance festivals prior to all of that didn't have a online presence at all and

02:30:01.090 --> 02:30:07.170
i mean i guess this was like the early days of it so it would have been like 2005 2006 something like

02:30:07.170 --> 02:30:16.590
that 2004 was kind of a height of it i know that there were message boards for colleges

02:30:17.550 --> 02:30:25.710
that existed on myspace before ever facebook had signups with college email addresses to join the

02:30:25.710 --> 02:30:32.890
college network oh that was when facebook was like college only yeah correct when it was only a college

02:30:33.710 --> 02:30:41.150
network that you would join within dot edu email address it was a clues bubble before everything

02:30:41.150 --> 02:30:52.070
opened up joe motherfucking cool joe cool hey joe cool was like the only sane person on that tomato

02:30:52.070 --> 02:30:57.870
panel that i crashed every week dude it's making me laugh so goddamn hard you're like you suck you

02:30:57.870 --> 02:31:05.810
suck you suck you're cool and you suck that made me laugh so hard

02:31:08.770 --> 02:31:12.650
shout out to joe cool for gradually being a real motherfucking g

02:31:17.170 --> 02:31:22.810
yeah see they thought that they could get away with it that night joe cool but obviously they just

02:31:22.810 --> 02:31:27.350
needed uh you think another replacement ted wasn't gonna come in and tell them they're all dumb

02:31:30.410 --> 02:31:33.510
one ted exits two ted's enter yeah

02:31:37.210 --> 02:31:44.270
damn no that was fun though that was fun though and i motherfucker holds his own he does the competent

02:31:44.270 --> 02:31:52.750
individual i do think it's hilarious that they all went over to your other panel and started

02:31:53.250 --> 02:31:59.370
initially bitching about me and then we're like wait never mind your you guys are friends okay

02:31:59.370 --> 02:32:05.170
then it was cool and hilarious but in a minute to go it was awful now it's fine

02:32:06.850 --> 02:32:13.930
that did happen there were complaints made and how terrible of a person you were and then

02:32:13.930 --> 02:32:20.030
ted bennington here said are you talking about steve he's my best friend and then the mood

02:32:20.030 --> 02:32:25.690
and tone really changed really quickly immediately dude immediately and it was like all you guys

02:32:25.690 --> 02:32:32.830
can be bought what the fuck are you you don't stand for anything dude you could have stood up to

02:32:32.830 --> 02:32:37.290
bennington been like your friends and asshole wouldn't be the first time he's heard that about me

02:32:37.290 --> 02:32:43.750
i promise you i promise you in fact i would have looked at you and said i mean that i know

02:32:43.750 --> 02:32:50.150
that's kind of what i like about him yeah tracks yeah that does yeah do you think he could have

02:32:50.150 --> 02:32:59.730
lived in my house before if he wasn't i guarantee you that ben and i have yelled at each other louder

02:32:59.730 --> 02:33:07.790
than either of us will ever yell at anybody on a tomato panel exactly and then got high as

02:33:07.790 --> 02:33:12.590
fuck 20 minutes later and we're laughing around yeah we're too old to take it to the ground we're

02:33:12.590 --> 02:33:16.830
just gonna shout for a little bit and be like are you tired i'm tired let's go smoke a joint

02:33:16.830 --> 02:33:23.590
yeah like you uh did you ever watch that ferrari uh versus ford versus ferrari oh yeah

02:33:24.410 --> 02:33:28.830
like couldn't have two or rolling around in the front yard and then they just lay there and breathe

02:33:28.830 --> 02:33:36.010
hard like he's like yelling at his wife can you get me a fizzy pop no none for him none for him

02:33:37.050 --> 02:33:38.670
literally what we would do

02:33:41.250 --> 02:33:47.570
oh yeah it's nobody's fault jody it's nobody's fault if anything it would probably be my fault

02:33:47.570 --> 02:33:56.150
for just showing up and throwing grenades everywhere probably the the onus would fall

02:33:56.150 --> 02:34:03.290
fall on me uh but i did see how how happy and excited that sarah was that i showed up

02:34:03.290 --> 02:34:10.000
because i was like well if she's gonna be stoked and i might as well yeah elevate the game a little bit

02:34:10.530 --> 02:34:18.450
but yeah that that was um it was a topic and i'll say this in all fairness it was a topic

02:34:18.450 --> 02:34:25.220
that lended itself to extreme partisan hackery so if you're not a partisan hack and you're

02:34:25.220 --> 02:34:36.340
listening to that it could invoke some feelings uh of i'm going to torch the entire room and so yeah

02:34:36.340 --> 02:34:44.040
sometimes you do just have to dock holiday the fuck out of uh the bar there we do we may still

02:34:44.040 --> 02:34:50.980
have some listeners who are not quite sure what you mean by the word partisan and when you combine

02:34:50.980 --> 02:34:57.860
with hack it forms a new compound word what is a partisan what is a hack and then what is a partisan

02:34:57.860 --> 02:35:08.120
hack well i mean a partisan would be a supporter of one particular party or party ideology

02:35:09.090 --> 02:35:14.420
so whether you're republican or democrat or green party or whatever you're libertarian

02:35:14.420 --> 02:35:24.160
whatever you you identify with it's defensive the party before anything else so discarding

02:35:24.160 --> 02:35:28.820
inconvenient information that would make your party look culpable and yeah something terrible

02:35:28.820 --> 02:35:38.700
yeah and a hack is just uh bad at that they they have the same rote talking points that in many

02:35:38.700 --> 02:35:45.260
cases have been thoroughly debunked over and over and over but it's a default setting

02:35:45.700 --> 02:35:52.720
to where you won't allow any new information in and you just regurgitate the same tired

02:35:52.720 --> 02:36:00.180
talking points over and over and over and i i don't i don't have respect for hacks in comedy

02:36:00.180 --> 02:36:06.480
or politics or any other form of entertainment and i consider politics to be a form of

02:36:06.480 --> 02:36:15.280
entertainment so partisan hack is someone who regurgitates talking points in defense of their

02:36:15.280 --> 02:36:24.920
preferred party without engaging in the debate about any other topic that they are not familiar

02:36:24.920 --> 02:36:31.280
with so then they would call you a liar and say i didn't hear that information it must not be true

02:36:31.280 --> 02:36:37.180
i'm not going to engage with that goodbye and leave the chat room yeah yeah destiny would be

02:36:37.180 --> 02:36:48.200
a penultimate example of a partisan hack for sure absolutely yeah yeah this is somebody that will

02:36:48.200 --> 02:36:54.880
excuse any behavior of their side but then if the other side does it they suddenly had they're

02:36:54.880 --> 02:37:01.880
suddenly very morally righteous and and very indignant about it and but will not look at it

02:37:01.880 --> 02:37:07.860
on their cell on their cells so they're always they're always extreme hypocrites every and then

02:37:07.860 --> 02:37:15.640
there's the you know like the the teds here who are like tree beard in this bitch where we're like

02:37:15.640 --> 02:37:21.500
well i'm not on anybody's side because nobody's on my side exactly where the fuck you how you

02:37:21.500 --> 02:37:27.000
want me to pick when everybody's against me no i'm not gonna do that yeah yeah yeah we're like

02:37:27.000 --> 02:37:31.640
somebody comes into the room we spend the next fucking three days deciding we come back

02:37:32.220 --> 02:37:38.780
we've decided that you aren't partisan right right you can live you can live yeah

02:37:42.360 --> 02:37:49.880
that was such a wild fucking panel too because when he gave me the names i assumed myself and

02:37:50.440 --> 02:37:58.700
garland would be on a similar page you know uh preemptively obviously uh but i did not assume

02:37:58.700 --> 02:38:03.860
that anybody else was going to land there and then the whole panel except for wick landed there i'm

02:38:03.860 --> 02:38:14.980
like oh shit it's like garland's been texting me a little bit while we've been on the air to to give

02:38:14.980 --> 02:38:21.840
me like his perspective of what happened what did what did he think did he have a good time he was

02:38:21.840 --> 02:38:27.460
like dude i was having a blast and then they threw these two neocon fucking liberal idiots at us

02:38:28.660 --> 02:38:36.260
kind of spiraled out after that but garland has no patience for like rampant partisan

02:38:36.260 --> 02:38:41.980
hackery he does and look this is why we get along is why i do a show with the guy yeah you know what

02:38:41.980 --> 02:38:49.360
i mean like neither of us really have a high bar of tolerance for that kind of buffoonery

02:38:50.400 --> 02:38:55.140
yeah i know he was laughing his ass off when i called both sides i was like the only thing

02:38:55.140 --> 02:39:01.220
keeping us at war is the fucking the the fucking far right and far left cults that are just determined

02:39:01.220 --> 02:39:05.880
to pick our pockets to fucking pay for shit that makes rich people fucking richer and

02:39:05.880 --> 02:39:09.660
does nothing for our country hey he was dying

02:39:11.940 --> 02:39:18.360
steve is on rumble at eight and wake other way other way marcus other way it's it's

02:39:18.360 --> 02:39:25.020
mirrored for me so if i do this it's pointing at it yep that is pointing at it okay the screen is

02:39:26.000 --> 02:39:32.580
mirrored so am i pointing at steve right now you're pointing away from steve right now

02:39:32.580 --> 02:39:40.460
no shit yeah so if i was pointing at you i'd do if i was pointing at ben i'd do this if i was

02:39:40.460 --> 02:39:45.720
for ted bennington if i was pointing at ted alan i'd do that so if we're doing a stoner

02:39:46.340 --> 02:39:49.520
hollywood squares we got to figure out our directions here so

02:39:50.160 --> 02:39:54.940
steve fucking so is this steve you've got to incorporate that into one of the intros

02:39:55.520 --> 02:40:01.760
like the hollywood story of a ted named alan we'll get that that's brady bunch that's brady bunch

02:40:02.580 --> 02:40:07.880
that's part of it so this is ted steve's and this is ted bennington

02:40:08.780 --> 02:40:15.000
yes am i pointing ted bennington yes yes i'm pointing to ted steve yes yes and i'm pointing to ted alan

02:40:15.000 --> 02:40:23.600
yes yes okay all right you should give yourself a little fonsi when you do that

02:40:23.600 --> 02:40:32.320
hey all right god who's worth bit bit two bitcoins and is a high value man this guy

02:40:32.320 --> 02:40:39.620
let me ask a philosophical question there would there ever have been an andrew dice clay

02:40:40.780 --> 02:40:47.200
where you've got a jewish man pretending to be an italian douchebag had there never been

02:40:47.200 --> 02:40:54.280
a henry winkler a jewish man pretending to be an italian douchebag like fonsi

02:40:54.920 --> 02:41:05.940
is fonsi dice 1.0 that's fair i think he might be fair was it a marlon brando that started this

02:41:05.940 --> 02:41:13.120
is marlon brando no no no no no no because dice is obviously more fons than on the waterfront

02:41:13.120 --> 02:41:20.620
brando and i think that's where you were going he's not on he's not on youtube but youtube and i got

02:41:20.620 --> 02:41:29.060
steve and i got kicked off of youtube back in uh 2020 2021 and i got my i i i did not get my

02:41:29.060 --> 02:41:33.320
initial channel back but i got a different they allowed me to have this channel

02:41:35.580 --> 02:41:41.380
i have there's an am wake up youtube channel but for the last two and a half years

02:41:42.180 --> 02:41:47.560
every time i've tried to upload an episode of am wake up to it i get a strike on the upload

02:41:48.500 --> 02:41:55.800
like it won't even actually upload the video it'll strike it before it's completed so what

02:41:55.800 --> 02:42:04.060
what i've done because i do a whole bunch of uh music before the show starts my show starts at

02:42:04.060 --> 02:42:11.400
seven 10 minutes before every day i play some music and it just lets people come into the chat

02:42:11.400 --> 02:42:17.480
bullshit stuff like that and then we start the show so on youtube for the am wake up channel it's

02:42:17.480 --> 02:42:25.160
just been uh playlist of all of the pre-show music that we do so if you find yourself facing a

02:42:25.160 --> 02:42:31.580
road trip and you're not sure what you want to listen to or you want to augment between podcast

02:42:31.580 --> 02:42:37.080
and music i do highly recommend going to the am wake up youtube channel and going through the

02:42:37.080 --> 02:42:42.940
playlist there is in my opinion a ton of really good music throughout there there's i we're getting

02:42:42.940 --> 02:42:54.360
close to a thousand songs and maybe out of the 1000 songs you'll have 40 repeats throughout that

02:42:55.100 --> 02:43:00.640
repeat artists certainly but repeat songs you're only going to hear the the same songs

02:43:00.640 --> 02:43:07.980
over the course of a thousand of them yeah i made 40 out of a thousand try try to keep it pretty

02:43:08.680 --> 02:43:15.820
you know uh pretty diverse and steve has good taste in music yeah steve's got good good taste

02:43:18.020 --> 02:43:23.460
and yeah my original show was called uh oh it's alchemy this is uh benjamin balderson

02:43:24.280 --> 02:43:28.920
i only i only used to upload farm stuff on it so they didn't take this one away from me

02:43:35.820 --> 02:43:41.740
so how's shearing ben i'm done with shearing thankfully i needed to get it done before this

02:43:41.740 --> 02:43:48.280
i said we knew this heat wave was coming last week said oh if we got to get all that hair off the

02:43:48.280 --> 02:43:57.200
malpakis and they were happy to do it too i tell you what that big our big male and i've had him

02:43:57.200 --> 02:44:04.980
since he was born and uh the first time he ever got sheared he sat and screamed bloody murder the

02:44:04.980 --> 02:44:11.340
entire time we were shearing him he was so mad and he's always been a shit to shear it's it's

02:44:11.340 --> 02:44:19.780
never been good this year that dude was just like yeah get this off me hey let's let's do this

02:44:22.040 --> 02:44:27.700
he like gave us like a two minute obligatory little kick fest when we

02:44:31.020 --> 02:44:35.860
yeah like it was almost like yeah i i i feel obliged that i must

02:44:40.180 --> 02:44:45.000
protest at least to some degree make you guys not think that this is easy

02:44:45.700 --> 02:44:52.220
but yeah get this hair off me because we did we went two years without shearing him this time and

02:44:52.220 --> 02:44:58.060
normally i shear him yearly but uh i thought it was cool enough last year that i could go another

02:44:58.060 --> 02:45:05.200
year without shearing and then alpaca hair is a fiber and whatever the length of the hair is

02:45:05.200 --> 02:45:10.560
that's what you got to stick with it's not like wool where you can uh it doesn't bind together

02:45:10.560 --> 02:45:16.760
the same and so you basically get that one chance so if you can get it really extra long

02:45:17.280 --> 02:45:25.440
that's so much better hair fiber like morality like your moral fiber yes yes

02:45:27.000 --> 02:45:32.420
yeah they they they're they're very uh high philosophy in the alpacas out here

02:45:34.800 --> 02:45:40.320
always doing the right thing yeah the golden rule of alpaca

02:45:46.460 --> 02:45:52.620
yeah and my alpaca herds all young now so um i went through it

02:45:52.620 --> 02:46:00.940
huh the smoke you died big frogs asking uh the answer stream yard yeah our oldest alpaca now

02:46:00.940 --> 02:46:07.220
is obsidian he's only seven yeah like alpacas are very long lived we had a bunch of alpacas

02:46:07.220 --> 02:46:12.860
that were probably over 20 bubba quit eating the toilet tissue douche

02:46:14.460 --> 02:46:21.020
fuck is wrong with you yeah the answer is to use stream yard it's one option

02:46:22.580 --> 02:46:26.400
i think there's a link in the description of the video that you're watching now

02:46:27.280 --> 02:46:29.320
where this to sign up to stream yard

02:46:33.960 --> 02:46:38.720
not sure if it displays on the the tall screen

02:46:40.620 --> 02:46:47.420
check on the the widescreen version so they call multi aspect ratio streaming

02:46:47.420 --> 02:46:53.840
mar s calling it mars to be able to stream tall and horizontal

02:46:55.740 --> 02:47:03.720
and then meeting with having all your friends in one room together stream the answer yeah

02:47:08.600 --> 02:47:13.280
yeah it's an entirely different crowd on the vertical than it is on the horizontal

02:47:18.100 --> 02:47:21.900
and then also you get more of those jewel things and stuff on the verticals

02:47:25.340 --> 02:47:33.440
sometimes in verticals go off we had a nice race baby show coming up next fry or maybe is

02:47:33.440 --> 02:47:39.820
it this friday or not yeah this friday with captain tizari act the fucking vertical probably

02:47:39.820 --> 02:47:47.800
get like 20 000 on that one that guy that guy the heber israelite

02:47:49.200 --> 02:47:53.660
that guy knows how to entertain he gets a he gets a panel worked up right fucking now

02:47:54.300 --> 02:48:01.320
my heber israelite friend is like super mellow and not not bombastic at all

02:48:01.320 --> 02:48:07.040
so it's really really easy to talk to him about all that kind of stuff and he does like a

02:48:07.440 --> 02:48:14.000
uh christian and hebrew apologetics channel or at least he did for for a long time

02:48:14.000 --> 02:48:23.100
and it was super informative but i would rather engage with the over the top you know completely

02:48:23.100 --> 02:48:31.160
cartoonish black hebrew israelite yeah tizari acts hilarious he's a riot to talk to that guy's wild

02:48:33.440 --> 02:48:38.360
he's the like second command of all the heber israelites or some shit

02:48:38.920 --> 02:48:46.580
all right all right grand super super bombastic god damn it what's their little newsletter called

02:48:46.580 --> 02:48:51.440
i can't remember i used to like i used to talk to those dudes when i was living on the east coast

02:48:51.440 --> 02:48:58.500
all the fucking time them and the noi brothers the the nation islam dudes were funny as fuck man

02:48:59.240 --> 02:49:02.680
god they cracked me up they really hate like

02:49:03.540 --> 02:49:13.000
it's not white people it's jews but they really hate white people for not distinguishing themselves

02:49:13.000 --> 02:49:21.020
more tizari act tizari act it loves me we get along fine we've never actually got like i told him

02:49:21.020 --> 02:49:25.920
because he's like because he's on there and he's like you christians are worshiping the wrong people

02:49:25.920 --> 02:49:31.540
that's not blah blah you know and i'm like you know and you know me i'm like i agree

02:49:32.140 --> 02:49:37.620
like they need to start worshiping white gods they believe that desert gods alone like

02:49:42.800 --> 02:49:49.380
i think we could check our check our mailbag thanks again to some of our chatters

02:49:51.240 --> 02:49:56.680
t leaves seven four seven seven thank you for that you're getting that booger sugar in vegas

02:49:57.340 --> 02:50:03.800
oh yeah are we still doing this i thought we did that earlier going to vegas well we're

02:50:03.800 --> 02:50:09.900
saying no no oh we yeah no back to the mailbag to make sure we didn't miss anything i know we

02:50:09.900 --> 02:50:13.540
get a lot of comments coming in and we can't always get to them in the heat of the moment

02:50:13.540 --> 02:50:20.500
or the flow of the conversation i'm saying that that is exactly what happened in tizari's like nope

02:50:21.140 --> 02:50:27.900
you're cool and i was like cool but you're cool too i don't give a shit i'm not in on this fight

02:50:30.220 --> 02:50:36.840
there was a statement earlier about um the quality of highness being a quantity or not a quantity

02:50:36.840 --> 02:50:44.840
or being a quality how do you measure it oh it's definitely a it's definitely a both

02:50:44.840 --> 02:50:51.400
that's definitely a both there's different qualities of highs and then there's definitely

02:50:51.400 --> 02:50:59.200
different levels of that quality like you definitely like in the morning if i take a nice fucking

02:50:59.200 --> 02:51:05.700
dab of some sour tea or something all of a sudden like who the world's great and i want to dance

02:51:05.700 --> 02:51:11.960
around and if i take a second one that fucking will amplify that even more and then i take a third one

02:51:11.960 --> 02:51:24.760
and i gotta take a nap so the quantity might be the amount ingested over time and the amount

02:51:24.760 --> 02:51:32.100
being the quantity might affect the quality of the experience i maybe that's what people kind of

02:51:32.100 --> 02:51:38.820
think they think if they take more quantity they will increase the overall quality leading to a

02:51:38.820 --> 02:51:46.560
better more fun experience but it could be the opposite so it's like well i i'm using the quality

02:51:46.560 --> 02:51:53.700
as like uh you're you're kind of mixing quality and quantity into the same word which i understand

02:51:53.700 --> 02:51:57.800
some people are going to feel that way the more high they are the better quality they're going

02:51:57.800 --> 02:52:07.320
to figure it as but from my perspective there's there's at least 10 different specific highs

02:52:07.320 --> 02:52:14.860
that different cannabises will give you probably more and so you have a quality of each

02:52:15.780 --> 02:52:24.760
that's you know it can be good or bad and then the quantity is how how much of that quality you're

02:52:24.760 --> 02:52:36.660
getting this feels like maybe an uh chart yeah i micro dose also i i micro dose also i only do like

02:52:36.660 --> 02:52:44.000
a gram at a time of tabs so if this is like a battleship coordinates where you have the x

02:52:44.000 --> 02:52:49.080
coordinate and the y coordinate uh quantity and quality and like drawing a map of it i think maybe

02:52:49.080 --> 02:52:53.260
there's a a third aspect that needs to be added to make it sort of a three-dimensional

02:52:53.980 --> 02:53:01.500
location of where you are on your trip and in your analogy the x and the y would basically be

02:53:01.500 --> 02:53:07.480
the quality so oh i'm going to get a ship here it's going to be a good hit now we decide what's

02:53:07.480 --> 02:53:16.020
the size of the missile or bomb we're sending so we could send a little pinner joint you know and

02:53:16.020 --> 02:53:20.980
and hit that ship and it's going to hit that spot but we could also you know

02:53:20.980 --> 02:53:27.640
fucking send a monster you know a hellfire missile that just you know drops everything and

02:53:27.640 --> 02:53:33.220
you're still going to be in the same hitting the same ship but you're going to be hitting it a lot

02:53:33.220 --> 02:53:43.460
harder so we might want to qualify the quality to say the quality of the substance whether it's

02:53:43.460 --> 02:53:52.820
fresh frozen or weed ditch or pencil shavings like the quality ingested the quantity ingested

02:53:53.300 --> 02:53:58.860
leading to the experience i would probably use the word experience over quality

02:53:58.860 --> 02:54:05.300
and that's so quantity quality and the experience and that would be x y and z and then that'll

02:54:05.300 --> 02:54:15.940
locate you maybe where you'll end up well i know where i want to end up some fresh frozen in my lungs

02:54:16.480 --> 02:54:22.520
high as hell and super happy about everything i've been out of weed for like three weeks man

02:54:22.520 --> 02:54:29.940
i've got fucking migraines and blurry vision it's the weird the world starting to uh seem

02:54:29.940 --> 02:54:43.200
normal again no not not normal just you know uh good way shittier the rose colored glasses

02:54:43.200 --> 02:54:52.140
have been way shittier yeah yeah he fucking he didn't realize those rose colored glasses were actually green

02:54:56.400 --> 02:55:03.820
well and that might tie into another topic i was going to warn you guys about everybody online if

02:55:03.820 --> 02:55:12.880
people are asking for matcha or exchanging matcha just say no block move on don't engage in matcha

02:55:12.880 --> 02:55:19.220
sharing matcha doesn't even really like other people dude no i don't share matcha yeah no she

02:55:19.220 --> 02:55:24.560
don't like other people none at all she just likes me she would not appreciate being shared

02:55:25.820 --> 02:55:33.960
i uh i should dip we gotta do like two more hours of work and feed the dog and stuff

02:55:34.540 --> 02:55:41.060
yeah that's that's where or gem's been all night working working hard yeah all the work done

02:55:41.060 --> 02:55:46.840
it's that season yeah i've also got i've got to work early in the morning

02:55:49.220 --> 02:55:51.040
i am also on that page

02:55:53.980 --> 02:55:59.280
how are we feeling about the aftershow a member's only thing what would we call it

02:56:00.600 --> 02:56:07.820
you want to do it or uh you want to call it yeah not i'm leaving it on you marcus i'll follow

02:56:07.820 --> 02:56:14.380
your lead on it i'm i'm i'm pretty you want to do a sunday members only stream i'm down for that

02:56:14.380 --> 02:56:21.100
uh let's do another night a members only stream i'm down let's do a sunday and with steve also

02:56:22.200 --> 02:56:25.940
yeah i'd be into that you're sure it is a good day

02:56:26.860 --> 02:56:33.740
yeah streaming for nine hours on a Tuesday evening might not be a sustainable method

02:56:34.400 --> 02:56:40.880
well it was 105 all day and so i i also i i've had to take aspirin and stuff to

02:56:40.880 --> 02:56:46.920
drive off a headache it's supposed to be over 100 tomorrow and i've got to be outside working all day

02:56:46.920 --> 02:56:53.440
tomorrow that's not going to be great wednesday it's supposed to drop down to 92 which will

02:56:53.440 --> 02:57:01.540
seem nice compared to over 100 when i was in vegas there was a noticeable difference between

02:57:02.460 --> 02:57:10.480
plus 100 degree days and like 98 degree days yeah there's definitely something psychologically

02:57:10.480 --> 02:57:18.400
that happens when your brain registers that it's over 100 degrees say same where i'm from only it's

02:57:18.400 --> 02:57:24.680
if it's negative or it's plus yeah like if it's plus three we're like hey that's not so bad

02:57:24.680 --> 02:57:32.360
throw a flannel on you're all right fucking if it's negative three we're like oh fuck it's negative

02:57:32.360 --> 02:57:38.700
today yeah maybe just a windbreaker a light jacket

02:57:41.140 --> 02:57:46.280
dude i remember getting drunk down in the park fucking middle of winter it's fucking like

02:57:46.280 --> 02:57:51.040
four degrees out we're down there drinking butt ice and fucking ice house and shit

02:57:51.040 --> 02:57:56.820
because you know if you want the cool beers that weren't the shitty beers like miller high life or

02:57:57.360 --> 02:58:01.600
fucking something like that you drink ice beers because that was the cool ones to drink in the

02:58:01.600 --> 02:58:10.420
mid 90s yeah it had to be an ice beer yeah had to be they even had mgd ice yeah for a little bit

02:58:10.420 --> 02:58:17.440
it was they were all terrible but yeah yeah ice house was like the go-to beer in high school

02:58:18.360 --> 02:58:29.840
100% 100% i'll never forget probably top five beers i ever drank i was like 17 and i had a 12 pack of

02:58:29.840 --> 02:58:36.960
butt ice that i'd scored on a thursday and i left it out in the garage in the dryer and it got down

02:58:36.960 --> 02:58:44.240
to like fucking 30 degrees maybe like 28 or something just under freezing and we went out and those beers

02:58:44.240 --> 02:58:51.300
were like when you cracked them it was like that almost slushy but not like oh god so good

02:58:51.720 --> 02:59:01.080
so good just counted that first one just like go go i was gonna say dude lucy because lucy's from

02:59:01.080 --> 02:59:09.820
my hometown honey brown honey brown lager was the shit that was like the highfalutin beer

02:59:09.820 --> 02:59:17.500
that was before they even they had honey brown in the the liquor stores before they had like sam

02:59:17.500 --> 02:59:25.460
adam's or pete's wicked or any of that stuff and yeah in high school like your standard you know

02:59:25.460 --> 02:59:33.560
55 bucks for a keg was ice house but if you were rolling you would shoulder tap for a six pack of

02:59:33.560 --> 02:59:42.500
honey brown man yeah before before i quit drinking i had switched to when i came back from germany i went

02:59:42.500 --> 02:59:51.760
to germany in 95 and so 96 as i think is 95 96 when i discovered sam adam's and i was like

02:59:51.760 --> 02:59:58.200
after drinking german beer literally the day i got home my friends threw me a party and they

02:59:58.200 --> 03:00:05.360
bought me a 30 pack they called it a suitcase of miller high life and i drank that whole suitcase of

03:00:05.360 --> 03:00:11.220
miller high life and got a headache and i was like this is bullshit this is not the champagne of

03:00:11.220 --> 03:00:17.560
beers at all yeah no this is this is because i just came back from germany literally that day

03:00:17.560 --> 03:00:23.560
i'm like fucking the german beer still in my system is affecting me more than this whole thing did

03:00:23.560 --> 03:00:27.400
like get the fuck out of here and then i switched to sam adam's

03:00:30.300 --> 03:00:37.480
i think it's hilarious that the scottish world cup fans drank sam adam's out of beer

03:00:39.620 --> 03:00:46.620
right right i told us dude sam adam's october fest that is good beer

03:00:49.740 --> 03:00:54.700
sure yeah i can't remember if i've ever had that or not thank you for the same adam's memories

03:00:56.000 --> 03:01:01.600
and thank you guys for watching and all that stuff we'll we'll see you next week a huge week

03:01:01.600 --> 03:01:09.540
coming up for uh for me i got a show with omar tomorrow um god i swear to god i got something

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friday and saturday too and then we got uh i'm debating clay next week on odinism

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uh a lot of big stuff coming up with a d o d i and w o t a n wotan wotan not oninism it's a different

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circle to your conversation and yeah i'm gonna cook clay clay clay's gonna get ragdolled

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gonna get ragdolled i was wondering if you're gonna talk about no fap before uh november comes up

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i probably will not be fapping uh but unfortunately even if you know i i i don't touch it i leave it alone

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but my wife i can't convince her so they'll have to talk to her about that

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yeah she said nope

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she will not be accepting no fap november right the the no not november only applies if you're single

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yeah yeah my wife my wife will not accept those terms right

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all right y'all have a fantastic rest of your week if anyone's interested i do a live show

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monday through friday 7 a.m to 10 a.m on the west coast 10 a.m to 1 p.m on the east coast

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and you can find it on uh a m wake up rumble substack odyssey bitchute and twitter uh so i

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well and if you're you know experimenting with other platforms uh jeff berwicks vigilante.tv

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carries the show and clad lewis's ground zero plus also carries clad lewis oh clad man

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back up back hanging out on a clad lewis network uh just like the old days when i was on aftermath

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yeah fm yeah only uh with less drugs less drugs and less embezzlement from the aftermath dot fm

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people that was a tragedy but but yeah yeah back back uh back hanging out on a clad lewis

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platform again uh huge thanks to christon t harris from the rundown live for facilitating that

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and getting me on ground zero plus um but yeah so there's like lots of places you can catch a show

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just not youtube because they fucking hate me yeah they do our uncle ted's talk show

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we'll get like 12 viewers and i got other shows that get like 20 000 we hate that we have the highest

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2600 views on rock fit or rumble for last week's ted talks 2600 views on rumble for last week's

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love rumble yeah what happens on rumble love your rumble right and yes we will give uh we will give clay the full

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