WEBVTT 00:00.660 --> 00:01.680 James 00:14.310 --> 00:21.890 Welcome to the deling pod with me James deling pod, and I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest 00:21.890 --> 00:24.290 But before we meet him, let's have a word from one of our sponsors 00:25.190 --> 00:31.230 You might have noticed that the gold and silver prices have been on a tear recently 00:31.230 --> 00:37.110 Silver prices especially silver silver's gone up like a rocket and gold has been doing pretty well too 00:37.810 --> 00:42.190 If you bought silver when I first started talking about it a few years ago 00:42.190 --> 00:46.410 You would have quadrupled your investment by now if you bought gold 00:46.410 --> 00:50.970 You'd certainly have doubled it and you're probably wondering is it too late? 00:51.250 --> 00:55.090 Can I still get into this this market and make money? 00:55.270 --> 01:01.270 Well, there are lots of reasons why you should have gone physical gold and silver as an insurance against against it continued decline of 01:01.270 --> 01:07.030 Fiat currency the uncertainties in the conventional stock markets. 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They can advise you on on tax issues will silver go up again 01:57.070 --> 02:03.630 Yes, probably will it go down again? Yes, probably, but I would say you should have some silver 02:03.730 --> 02:08.610 And gold in some form as long as it's solid silver and solid gold not paper gold 02:08.610 --> 02:16.070 And I would go to the pure gold company the pure gold company dot-co.uk forward slash James dash 02:16.070 --> 02:17.930 Delling poll forward slash 02:22.510 --> 02:28.910 Welcome back to the Delling pod Peter Duke the sign that you are back so soon 02:28.910 --> 02:32.970 Is an indication of how much I loved our last podcast? 02:33.870 --> 02:36.690 It was great. Well, thank you so much 02:36.690 --> 02:40.390 I'm really happy to talk to you know thinkers 02:41.270 --> 02:47.550 There's a lot of people who know a lot of stuff and they like to talk about what they know 02:47.550 --> 02:50.970 But there's not a lot of people that are constantly 02:51.530 --> 02:59.750 Expanding their own own horizons. I find and you're one of them. So thank you for having oh, well, that's a that's a lovely compliment and I 03:00.390 --> 03:04.470 Really really appreciate it. And what she while young on the compliments front 03:04.470 --> 03:05.770 I like 03:05.770 --> 03:08.450 the color of your shirt 03:09.650 --> 03:15.010 Well, well, well, thank you. I it's new, you know, as we said the last time that we spoke 03:15.010 --> 03:21.810 I lost everything that I owned so I found this great website and I won't be pimping them here 03:21.810 --> 03:23.410 But I found this great website that has 03:24.030 --> 03:29.670 Lovely products and and so I've been rebuilding my my wardrobe one one shirt at a time 03:30.230 --> 03:36.890 It's a good. It's a good. It's a good shade. I will some stage show you not not today necessarily my my new 03:38.390 --> 03:44.170 Sweater I've got which is this kind of moss green. It's it's quite like that. Anyway, I 03:45.230 --> 03:48.910 Before we go on and there's lots of there's loads. I want to talk to you about 03:49.950 --> 03:54.170 I wanted to ask a question. I didn't ask last time 03:54.170 --> 04:03.130 When you had your house burned down in Pacific palisades and you lost everything, I mean, how are you dealing with this? 04:04.690 --> 04:08.530 You know, it's in a weird way. It's kind of freeing 04:09.090 --> 04:14.250 because I don't know I I've lost my parents and you know what as your parents get older 04:15.510 --> 04:20.590 You know, they start to kind of unload stuff. I noticed my glasses are kind of fogging up here 04:20.590 --> 04:26.650 I'm gonna they you know, they they kind of unload stuff and I think they're one of the last things that my mother ever said to me 04:26.650 --> 04:32.670 Before she passed away. She said, you know at the end. It's just stuff and and so 04:33.510 --> 04:34.970 one of the things that 04:35.890 --> 04:37.510 You go through is that 04:38.270 --> 04:41.590 You define yourself. I think in this very kind of 04:42.290 --> 04:47.130 Materialist world and I'm thinking about who's the guy who wrote the society of the spectacle 04:49.130 --> 04:56.530 I'm trying to remember the name of the author. He's a French guy. Anyway, the idea is that we kind of define ourselves by all of these kind of 04:56.530 --> 05:04.130 manufactured goods and things and you know, it reminds me of a conversation I had with the vice president of of 05:05.010 --> 05:11.230 home entertainment for Paramount once and I was trying I was working for Microsoft as a consultant and he was 05:11.810 --> 05:18.550 We were trying to sell him this new way to connect DVDs to the internet through web-enabled computers 05:18.550 --> 05:23.950 And he said, you know, I don't really care about any of that stuff and I said why is that and he said because 05:24.550 --> 05:30.450 Most people don't watch DVDs and this guy was in charge of selling DVDs for Paramount Studios 05:31.050 --> 05:33.350 And I said, what do you mean most people don't watch them? 05:33.410 --> 05:38.970 And he goes I've just spent hundreds of thousands of dollars doing all this market research and I found out that 05:38.970 --> 05:43.590 That most people who buy CDs don't actually even put them into the 05:44.370 --> 05:48.810 I'm sorry DVDs. Most people who buy DVDs don't even put them into the DVD player 05:49.330 --> 05:51.530 And I said, I said, what are you talking about? 05:51.630 --> 05:55.870 And he goes people buy DVDs for all kinds of reasons a lot of times they'll buy 05:56.570 --> 06:02.290 DVDs because it was a movie that they saw once and they really liked that movie and they put it up on their shelf 06:02.290 --> 06:04.290 And then they never actually watched the movie 06:05.530 --> 06:11.650 And and the reason I'm telling you this story is because I think that a lot of the stuff that we wind up having 06:12.290 --> 06:18.470 It's because it's what we want other people to think about us. It's not really about us at all 06:18.470 --> 06:20.890 And so when you lose all of your stuff 06:21.690 --> 06:27.890 one of the one of the things that's really interesting is that you know, and and I was reasonably insured 06:27.890 --> 06:29.470 I wasn't completely insured, but 06:30.330 --> 06:33.510 you know, you wind up getting a big check from the insurance company and 06:33.510 --> 06:38.190 Then you go to start to replace stuff and you start asking yourself the question 06:38.890 --> 06:45.170 Do I really want to replace this? Is this something that I really want? Did it really mean that much to me? 06:45.870 --> 06:47.250 you know and 06:47.250 --> 06:53.150 It turns out that most of the stuff falls into the category of I don't really care anymore 06:54.070 --> 07:00.930 You know, there's a few things, you know the sentimental things that you associate with your family or your loved ones 07:01.650 --> 07:06.530 But other than that most of the other stuff it turns out. It's just stuff. So 07:08.170 --> 07:14.270 That's how I deal with it. I'm now worried that by complimenting you on your shirt 07:14.830 --> 07:19.590 I may have revealed the that the materialist within me 07:20.170 --> 07:28.010 There was I thinking I was complimenting you on it's it's that particular kind of shade of green that I like it's because it's it's actually not 07:28.010 --> 07:30.370 It's not quite a military 07:30.930 --> 07:32.790 Green yeah, it's just off 07:33.570 --> 07:39.290 Well, it's linen and I I was a little worried when I parted on because I don't the collar 07:39.290 --> 07:46.650 I probably could hit with an iron and I realized when I was putting the shower the shirt on that I no longer own an iron. So 07:48.130 --> 07:52.870 Are you familiar with the the the theory about 07:53.590 --> 07:56.490 Different fabrics having different 07:57.730 --> 08:00.530 Different they resonate at different frequencies 08:01.130 --> 08:06.930 No, but it makes it makes perfect sense to me and you won't be surprised to learn that the two 08:07.850 --> 08:08.410 best 08:08.970 --> 08:13.170 Frequencies that the most beneficial frequencies are the ones that linen 08:14.030 --> 08:17.130 vibrates on and the one that I think will 08:17.930 --> 08:23.790 Vibrates on well, that's great because I get linen shirt and linen pants on so I'm but bizarrely 08:24.990 --> 08:32.690 Apparently they cancel each other out. You're not meant to do which is why there were those biblical strictures on mixing mixing fabrics 08:34.270 --> 08:39.550 You're you're you're breaking up again. I didn't hear that last sentence. Oh, how annoying that 08:40.610 --> 08:42.830 And and you're the Bible 08:45.370 --> 08:47.130 Has strictures on on 08:47.770 --> 08:49.090 mixing of fabrics 08:49.710 --> 08:55.810 Current and there's a reason for that that they that the frequencies cancel each other out 08:55.810 --> 09:01.410 Which is why you don't watch it. So it's extraordinary that there is a is a 09:02.210 --> 09:05.770 scientific the right word that there is a there is a 09:06.490 --> 09:07.090 logical 09:07.830 --> 09:10.390 Practical basis for for these apparently 09:11.150 --> 09:11.750 crazy 09:12.730 --> 09:17.570 Injunctions that you get in the Old Testament. Well, my wife is going to be very 09:18.500 --> 09:21.010 Interested to hear that because she she knits 09:21.770 --> 09:28.680 and so and she's an avid knitter and so the the the 09:29.530 --> 09:33.930 The what the yarn is made out of winds up becoming incredibly important 09:35.050 --> 09:36.310 Sorry and 09:37.250 --> 09:39.730 Importantly an incredibly important 09:40.820 --> 09:46.710 Part of her entire process like she's she's very picky about the particular 09:47.870 --> 09:53.970 Material that she's using so she'll be really interested to hear that and we read the Bible every day. So, ah, yeah 09:53.970 --> 09:58.790 Yeah, I do as as well. It's um, it's become a hobby of mine 10:00.530 --> 10:04.910 Yeah, we I really want to talk to you about your 10:06.030 --> 10:08.370 fascinating theories about 10:09.350 --> 10:14.250 the structure of the language of the of well particularly Christ's 10:16.050 --> 10:17.170 teachings as 10:17.170 --> 10:18.570 a kind of way of 10:19.410 --> 10:24.650 Establishing truth. I mean a pistol. What was it? I'm sorry. What's what's the word? 10:25.110 --> 10:32.950 Yeah, I started off by looking at epistemology and well my my entry into things was actually linguistics 10:34.090 --> 10:36.390 and I wanted to learn 10:38.190 --> 10:39.450 Neurologistic programming 10:40.170 --> 10:44.430 Because I wanted to understand how language is used to manipulate us 10:44.430 --> 10:49.870 What's the blocking and tackling like how do you actually put words together because for people who don't know? 10:50.430 --> 10:56.330 Neurologistic programming is just hypnosis that uses conversational language. So 10:56.330 --> 11:01.410 It's a way of stringing, you know, the Greeks might have called it rhetoric 11:02.890 --> 11:08.570 But it's it's pretty targeted at the individual person and so 11:09.590 --> 11:10.630 Noam Chomsky 11:11.310 --> 11:17.890 Came up with he wrote a book called syntactic structures where he creates he came up with this thesis 11:17.890 --> 11:22.810 It's this is a universal principle like he didn't invent it. He just wrote it down 11:24.150 --> 11:27.770 That that we all have something that he calls a deep structure of memory 11:28.590 --> 11:33.670 Which is basically all of the things that we've ever experienced or 11:34.870 --> 11:36.410 Understand in our mind 11:36.410 --> 11:41.970 Some people think it's in our brain. I don't think so. I think it's in our mind. I don't think our mind is our brain 11:42.550 --> 11:44.630 That's a whole different conversation 11:44.630 --> 11:45.510 but 11:46.890 --> 11:49.230 but we have all of these ideas and 11:50.410 --> 11:52.350 in order to be able to 11:53.450 --> 11:53.930 compress 11:55.290 --> 11:56.810 What we know 11:57.330 --> 11:59.050 Into what we can say 11:59.770 --> 12:05.250 We need to do one of three things. We need to either delete distort or generalize our 12:06.010 --> 12:06.530 our 12:06.530 --> 12:08.810 understanding of the world in order to fit 12:09.370 --> 12:13.570 Whatever the ideas that we have that we want to convey the questions that we want to ask 12:14.730 --> 12:19.430 Into a sentence that somebody sitting in front of us can understand 12:19.970 --> 12:25.930 and so so we're constantly deleting distorting and generalizing and a couple of guys 12:26.850 --> 12:30.290 United a retired United States 12:31.450 --> 12:35.630 Special Forces intelligence officer named John Grinder 12:36.330 --> 12:39.470 And his partner a guy named Richard Bandler 12:39.990 --> 12:47.190 Sat down and they figured out what the patterns are in people's language that reflect whether or not they're deleting 12:47.190 --> 12:52.210 distorting or generalizing and that leads to a a 12:52.630 --> 12:52.990 a 12:54.390 --> 12:59.950 Methodology where you can ask people questions that will reveal whether or not 12:59.950 --> 13:06.090 The the sentences that they're putting together are deleting distorting or generalizing 13:06.850 --> 13:09.050 their view of the world and so 13:09.050 --> 13:15.190 It it gives you kind of a a skeleton key for getting into somebody's personality 13:16.130 --> 13:18.370 That doesn't require any kind of domain 13:19.240 --> 13:23.830 Understanding of who that person actually is or what their experiences actually are because 13:23.830 --> 13:28.250 You're simply looking at the way that they're putting their language together 13:28.250 --> 13:35.550 In order to determine whether or not they're deleting distorting or generalizing something so that was kind of the baseline 13:35.550 --> 13:38.710 That's where I started so just just interrupt you do 13:39.250 --> 13:45.050 Different people tend to do one of those three more often than than others 13:45.050 --> 13:48.230 I mean is it are you either a deletion person or a 13:49.050 --> 13:53.810 Generalization person or I you know, I I haven't thought about I again 13:53.810 --> 14:00.090 I I I don't do this for a living hypnotists actually do this. This is what they do all the time 14:00.090 --> 14:03.810 They're constantly analyzing people's language and so I'm 14:03.810 --> 14:09.650 And and you know, there's a difference between learning how to speak a language and learning how to understand it 14:09.650 --> 14:13.430 So I'm I don't consider myself a hypnotist 14:14.110 --> 14:19.210 But I understand when I I can recognize when hypnosis is being used 14:19.210 --> 14:23.630 The same way that somebody you don't have to play football 14:24.390 --> 14:31.730 To understand how football is played and so you can you can be you can be a spectator and you can understand how a sport 14:31.730 --> 14:32.510 happens 14:34.970 --> 14:36.170 so I 14:36.170 --> 14:43.310 Haven't done that but I did notice I was watching your conversation with Neil Oliver and I'm glad you mentioned 14:43.430 --> 14:46.790 This yeah, cuz I want you to yeah, tell me make your point 14:46.790 --> 14:51.290 So you started off a sentence and again 14:52.390 --> 14:55.290 You went to Oxford you're an English literature 14:56.170 --> 14:57.530 specialist and 14:57.530 --> 15:06.470 and and so the way that you form words is of a specific character and you started off a sentence by 15:06.470 --> 15:10.410 by using two words surely you must and 15:11.230 --> 15:12.870 I and I 15:12.870 --> 15:16.390 Don't even remember what you were talking about. I do and this is this is the bone 15:16.390 --> 15:22.630 I'm gonna pick with you, but but you make your good point first, okay, yes, surely you must so surely is 15:23.610 --> 15:25.210 a universal quantifier 15:25.790 --> 15:28.510 which is a word that takes a 15:30.590 --> 15:37.390 Concept and moves the needle all the way over to one side or the other which if you're a podcast toast 15:37.950 --> 15:42.810 It it's fine because what it does is that it it 15:43.510 --> 15:48.850 Initiates the other person to respond to that that that generalization, right? 15:49.090 --> 15:57.010 Yeah, and then and then you followed it up with must yeah, and and must again is universal quantifier 15:57.010 --> 16:01.710 where you're actually pushing the needle all the all the way over to one side or the other and 16:02.450 --> 16:08.550 The reason why it and I was thinking about this before we did the interview today the reason why it's 16:09.190 --> 16:16.930 It's a great technique if you're an interviewer is because if you've got somebody who's kind of like a fence sitter or there 16:17.790 --> 16:20.430 It forces them into 16:21.030 --> 16:27.090 Responding with an opinion. Okay. Yeah, the reason the reason that it winds up becoming dangerous to quote 16:27.890 --> 16:34.290 Neil Oliver is because people who are watching you will model that behavior 16:34.850 --> 16:41.570 Okay, and the and the issue lines up becoming is that while it's a great rhetorical 16:42.330 --> 16:45.430 Device for getting people to talk in an interview 16:46.130 --> 16:51.490 It it's kind of a polarizing way to speak in public with other people 16:51.490 --> 16:56.230 So that that was my comment right right so do you think I should 16:57.150 --> 17:04.510 Issue a health warning before my podcast saying look do not do not copy this man. Do not copy me 17:04.510 --> 17:08.170 I'm dangerous. I use dangerous techniques, which I don't know the experts 17:08.170 --> 17:10.050 No, no, no not at all 17:10.050 --> 17:13.410 And in fact what I do because I've gotten pretty good at catching myself 17:13.410 --> 17:19.050 But you know the first when you learn how to do this stuff you you you discover suddenly that 17:20.150 --> 17:24.870 You're you're also a victim of pattern matching what I call pattern matching 17:24.870 --> 17:27.150 Which is that we have certain? 17:28.050 --> 17:34.870 Surely you must is probably something you've said thousands or tens of thousands of times in your career and 17:36.290 --> 17:41.910 And it's not a bad thing to say but when I use universal quantifiers a lot of times 17:41.910 --> 17:47.890 I will call myself out on the on universal quantifier just to let my audience know 17:47.890 --> 17:50.970 Hey, I'm doing something that I tell people not to do 17:50.970 --> 17:53.910 But but I'm letting you know that I'm doing it 17:53.910 --> 17:55.910 so I 17:56.750 --> 18:01.630 In my defense, I would say that number one 18:03.910 --> 18:10.150 Hyperbole is is part of my charm and also there's something slightly in the way in the delivery 18:10.150 --> 18:11.430 I would say which 18:12.030 --> 18:19.090 Which is sort of self-correcting in that I say in such a way that it's kind of me being 18:19.650 --> 18:23.130 Over the top but more specifically in that instance 18:23.130 --> 18:28.310 I suppose the reason that I was your criticism although it was a good point but well made 18:28.310 --> 18:35.430 It's slightly rankled was in actually you've identified this. I was frustrated by Neil's 18:35.430 --> 18:44.130 Fence sitting he's quite he's quite cautious and the point I'd been he was he was talking about how 18:44.130 --> 18:47.390 Well on the one hand or the other on the other 18:47.390 --> 18:51.030 The evidence some say this some say that and I'm thinking 18:51.830 --> 18:59.310 Frankly fuck this this fence sitting shit. I was thinking don't tell me what you think I'm not interested in this kind of 18:59.310 --> 19:05.190 Grand overview. I want to know what you know a lot of a thing and the context of this was 19:06.990 --> 19:10.950 Surely you must have developed your own 19:12.330 --> 19:14.390 Working theory on 19:15.190 --> 19:19.110 Who's behind all this stuff who's in charge what the rules are 19:19.110 --> 19:24.610 Is it God and the fallen angels? Is that the deal? This is my deal 19:25.490 --> 19:29.250 I'm telling you what I think now. Please tell me what you think and 19:29.930 --> 19:37.230 He was able to evade it because he spotted the the linguistic trick being played and he used it to sort of 19:37.230 --> 19:40.390 Like a like a matador evading the bull 19:40.390 --> 19:46.010 But actually in the process he didn't commit himself to it to an answer that was 19:46.010 --> 19:52.430 Really interesting because I don't think I don't think fence sitting is is an acceptable position. It annoys me 19:52.430 --> 19:58.630 It's reaching and and and that's a perfect a perfectly reasonable explanation 19:58.630 --> 20:03.990 and what I have found in my on my own podcast is that my audience is 20:04.730 --> 20:06.670 super interested in 20:07.810 --> 20:16.330 Understanding exactly the point that you just made that is whatever Neil Oliver had to say is not as interesting to them my audience as 20:17.050 --> 20:24.130 As as as the breakdown that you and I just had of the interaction because it gives them the tools to be able to kind of 20:24.130 --> 20:28.690 Look at other conversations and spot that stuff. Oh 20:28.690 --> 20:33.310 Let's not pretend that this conversation we're having right now is not really interesting 20:33.310 --> 20:35.790 I'm really useful and people are gonna love it. It's great 20:35.790 --> 20:43.290 Yeah, I could I could analyze this stuff till the the cows come out, which was what I think one of the reasons that you and I 20:43.290 --> 20:50.050 Get on so well, we had this sort of instant rapport. It's all they we come from 20:50.610 --> 20:55.010 Pretty different backgrounds and I mean I have no access to your 20:55.750 --> 21:02.610 Technical understanding I don't you sent me when I said what are we gonna talk about and you sent me this? 21:03.750 --> 21:05.510 A drop box thing 21:05.510 --> 21:08.590 Yes, and you thought you were being kind to me 21:08.590 --> 21:14.890 But actually you were tormenting me because what I had to do was find out which of my various drop box emails 21:14.890 --> 21:17.090 That it was that it went to 21:17.090 --> 21:23.350 To get into my drop. Yeah. Yeah, I apologize. I I didn't have an email address for you 21:23.350 --> 21:24.550 I only had the chair. I see 21:25.190 --> 21:27.050 anyway, yeah, but but 21:27.050 --> 21:32.050 And you've had this fascinating background not just in tech but in 21:33.310 --> 21:36.350 the movie industry that you and I 21:37.310 --> 21:39.390 Because of our backgrounds 21:39.910 --> 21:45.110 We've come to this understanding about how the world works, which I think is a very accurate one, which is why we're good 21:45.810 --> 21:47.030 worth listening to 21:47.870 --> 21:51.170 Which is that the people who rule the world 21:52.050 --> 21:53.010 do so 21:53.630 --> 21:54.810 not really by 21:55.390 --> 21:55.950 technological 21:57.570 --> 22:01.190 Advantage it's not that they've got they're now to develop super weapons 22:01.190 --> 22:08.250 We've talked about nuclear weapons in a bit. It's they've mastered the art of the use of language as a weapon to deceive 22:08.250 --> 22:15.510 Yeah, and it's all it's all about the illusion that it's not about building bigger bombs or it's about 22:16.030 --> 22:21.630 Creating the illusion that you've got a bigger bomb to use use the analogy that you use in your one of your essays on on 22:23.670 --> 22:25.170 You're going to Russia ma. Yeah 22:26.510 --> 22:28.930 But that's it, isn't it? It's really that simple 22:29.270 --> 22:31.890 Have you come across this theory that the word media 22:32.910 --> 22:39.870 Is related to the Meads the Meads and yes in the God and the goddess media I think 22:39.870 --> 22:43.950 So it is isn't it? It's it's the skill of of 22:44.530 --> 22:50.070 Brainwashing the the public and to do what you want. Well, well ultimately belief 22:50.070 --> 22:54.450 I mean we will get to Christian epistemology. I started off 22:54.450 --> 23:01.250 We will talking about neuro linguistic programming, but I needed that as a base kind of to show you what my my path was 23:01.250 --> 23:08.590 But yeah belief the reason that I think that a pistol we're in an epi war an epistemological war is because 23:09.730 --> 23:13.570 And epistemology is a big long word that just means. How do you know that? 23:14.550 --> 23:16.470 How do you how do you know that's true? 23:16.630 --> 23:21.850 How did you find out that information that you're using in order to frame your reality? 23:21.850 --> 23:29.350 Because ultimately epistemology is about belief. It's about the the words or the experiences that we all have that 23:30.010 --> 23:31.770 frame our belief systems 23:32.410 --> 23:37.430 And if you think of anything education or religion or media as 23:38.130 --> 23:41.330 the way that belief systems are framed 23:42.070 --> 23:42.750 then 23:43.490 --> 23:48.310 You can you know, you can you can step back a little bit and see how 23:48.950 --> 23:51.950 You know belief systems are used in order to 23:52.550 --> 23:56.610 Manage societies and to your point. It's a lot more cost-effective 23:57.410 --> 24:01.970 Than kinetic warfare. It's a lot more cost-effective than violence 24:02.730 --> 24:07.710 In order to manage large populations and get them to do what you want them to do 24:08.230 --> 24:12.710 Talking of which do you have the view that um, what's happening in? 24:13.290 --> 24:15.110 Iran right now 24:15.110 --> 24:18.430 It's more it's more kind of 24:20.750 --> 24:22.730 Illusion than than reality 24:23.670 --> 24:24.990 um, I 24:26.430 --> 24:33.250 Putting on my epistemological warfare glasses. I I look at the stories that come out 24:34.570 --> 24:35.230 and 24:36.150 --> 24:42.530 Analyze the the stories are more important to me than that and I'm not saying that people getting blown up 24:42.530 --> 24:48.210 Is a good thing and I'm not saying that what's happening in Iran is is a good thing or in Gaza 24:48.210 --> 24:50.870 I don't think it's I don't think that they're those are good things 24:51.950 --> 24:59.410 But the stories that come out wind up becoming more informative to me than the actual events that are happening and I don't again 24:59.410 --> 25:01.150 I don't mean to sound uh 25:01.850 --> 25:03.650 Anti-human when I say that 25:04.590 --> 25:09.310 Because in the epistemological warfare frame those are the most important 25:10.030 --> 25:16.610 Components what is it that people believe and uh, how is it that they're finding those things out? 25:16.770 --> 25:17.310 And so 25:17.310 --> 25:24.350 Ultimately, I think that what's going on in Iran and Gaza are both related to what malania trump was talking about 25:24.870 --> 25:27.630 At the un, you know 10 or 11 days ago 25:28.190 --> 25:34.290 Uh, which is it's the rollout of the control grid and they're gonna they're gonna use the 25:34.290 --> 25:39.910 The fact that people are have had their homes destroyed and that there's lots of orphans 25:40.490 --> 25:44.130 In order to be able to kind of pull on the heartstrings of people 25:44.870 --> 25:48.890 But I think that I look at all of the places that are being cleared 25:48.890 --> 25:53.890 And you know, I come from the pacific palisades and the difference between the pacific palisades in Gaza 25:54.570 --> 26:00.010 Is that people they're the only 12 people got killed in the pacific palisades 26:00.010 --> 26:06.270 But from a real estate standpoint, there isn't any difference between the pacific palisades in Gaza. It got cleared 26:06.270 --> 26:12.330 Okay, it just it just got erased off the surface of the planet. It's a clean slate as it were 26:12.970 --> 26:19.170 um, and so uh, what I think is going on is that uh, they're they they are resetting 26:20.210 --> 26:25.530 Iran and they are resetting Gaza and they're resetting the pacific palisades 26:26.330 --> 26:28.130 um, and uh 26:28.130 --> 26:34.090 In order to put in this new thing that they've published white papers and books and 26:34.610 --> 26:38.990 Uh, they do you and speeches about like they they tell you what they're doing 26:40.650 --> 26:41.170 Yes 26:41.770 --> 26:49.150 Yes, and what was the place in hawaii, which they also cleared. Mahayana. Yeah. Mahayana. Yeah. Yeah 26:49.150 --> 26:52.110 um, yeah, no, I think I think you're I think you're right. So 26:53.090 --> 26:55.150 Let's go to um 26:55.670 --> 27:00.030 The bible and go to the teachings of of jesus. I think it's 27:00.770 --> 27:03.070 Fascinating what what you say, right? 27:03.350 --> 27:08.710 So when I yeah, so when I learned to learn neuro linguistic programming, like I said, my wife and I read the bible every day 27:09.310 --> 27:11.410 My wife is catholic and we read the old testament 27:11.410 --> 27:15.710 We read a chapter the old testament and we read a chapter the new testament every day 27:15.710 --> 27:22.530 And when we get done with it, we start over again and we just we've been that's been a routine of ours for five years now 27:23.150 --> 27:24.370 um, and so i'm i'm like 27:24.370 --> 27:27.570 Two and a half or three times through the bible already 27:28.110 --> 27:31.730 Um, and numbers and little viticus get more interesting every time 27:32.950 --> 27:39.590 Okay, I discovered yesterday. This is something that I didn't know but again, uh, my fascination with words 27:40.430 --> 27:43.830 Uh testament. Do you know what the word testament means? No, tell me 27:44.310 --> 27:47.870 Well, it it is related to the word testicles 27:48.770 --> 27:54.670 Okay, yeah, and and basically what it means is your ability as a man 27:55.850 --> 27:59.010 to uh, uh continue your 27:59.630 --> 28:02.430 off your your your line through your offspring 28:03.130 --> 28:04.890 and so, uh 28:04.890 --> 28:09.090 When you it basically means that you're swearing on your testicles 28:09.090 --> 28:14.610 Okay, that that this is the truth and the reason that abraham has his uh 28:15.090 --> 28:18.170 His servant put his hand under his leg 28:18.690 --> 28:21.970 Yeah, is to check to make sure that his testicles are there 28:21.970 --> 28:27.910 Okay, what before he that when he swears his oath he's swearing it with with the correct equipment 28:28.370 --> 28:32.630 Yes, that you're swearing out on the correct equipment. Yeah, that's exactly what it's 28:33.390 --> 28:35.250 and so so 28:35.250 --> 28:40.110 So the use of words, um in order to define things is 28:40.690 --> 28:43.130 incredibly important component and 28:43.790 --> 28:51.050 Like I said, I don't think that gnome chomsky invented the deep structure. He wrote about it. I don't think that uh, 28:51.350 --> 28:54.690 John grinder and richard bandler invented 28:55.490 --> 29:03.590 Meta model patterns. They just documented them. They are they are things that have existed and what's great about learning linguistics is that 29:03.590 --> 29:10.630 It is kind of language independent. That is there's different nuances between english and german and latin and greek. Okay, but 29:11.430 --> 29:18.110 um specifically a cause effect complex equivalency is a cause effect complex equivalency and i'm sorry 29:18.110 --> 29:23.910 I or a universal quantifier is a universal quantifier in in different languages and so 29:23.910 --> 29:24.590 um 29:25.130 --> 29:30.110 And so what I and I know for a fact that people like robert delts 29:30.110 --> 29:37.790 who's also a big name in neuro linguistic programming that they that they used people like martin luther king and 29:37.790 --> 29:39.110 uh jesus 29:39.110 --> 29:45.210 uh of nazareth to uh to determine what the structures were 29:45.210 --> 29:51.770 In neuro linguistic programming in order to be able to identify the patterns. So it's not a coincidence 29:52.730 --> 29:59.090 That if you learn neuro linguistic programming you can look at the new testament in a completely different way because 29:59.810 --> 30:00.110 um 30:00.770 --> 30:03.330 Jesus is using the same techniques 30:03.970 --> 30:10.310 um and to that end um because my wife and I were reading the bible every day and I was learning neuro linguistic programming 30:10.310 --> 30:12.310 I started to pick up on the fact that 30:13.350 --> 30:13.950 He's 30:13.950 --> 30:17.230 with with the with the exception of intent 30:17.870 --> 30:19.390 Okay, which is usually 30:20.110 --> 30:21.850 The difference between a pickup artist 30:22.530 --> 30:23.190 and a 30:23.810 --> 30:28.610 Uh and a therapist who are using neuro linguistic programming is intent, right? 30:28.610 --> 30:34.830 It's the outcome that they're trying to elicit out of the person that they're having a conversation with 30:35.570 --> 30:41.430 Um, and what I started to pick up on and what I started to realize is that jesus is using the same techniques 30:42.130 --> 30:43.750 that tony robbins uses 30:43.750 --> 30:49.810 Okay, um in reframing people's belief systems and ultimately again 30:50.230 --> 30:54.030 What jesus is doing is that he's changing what people believe 30:54.690 --> 30:57.450 um by by virtue of the 30:58.170 --> 31:00.110 Conversations that he's having with them 31:00.830 --> 31:08.190 So for example in the uh, when uh, when they there's a situation where they uh, the give unto Caesar 31:08.770 --> 31:09.330 uh 31:10.950 --> 31:16.710 Story where you know, they where they say do you is it okay for you to you're a jew? 31:16.850 --> 31:18.530 Is it okay for you to pay taxes? 31:19.350 --> 31:20.310 um, and 31:20.310 --> 31:23.950 He recognizes that as what as something that uh 31:24.900 --> 31:25.830 Gregory Bateson 31:26.590 --> 31:31.770 Defined as a double bind now. Gregory Bateson didn't invent double binds. He just wrote it down 31:32.500 --> 31:38.010 okay, and um, jesus was put into a double bind and so 31:38.010 --> 31:41.890 What he does is he asks him a question to show them a coin 31:42.460 --> 31:45.690 Okay, when he does that he's reframing the conversation 31:46.400 --> 31:47.470 Okay, and then 31:47.470 --> 31:53.610 And then he answers the question within his the his new frame 31:53.950 --> 31:54.670 Okay 31:55.630 --> 32:00.290 That's neuro linguistic program. Okay. That's that I mean again 32:00.910 --> 32:07.050 Uh, he did it first uh in that circumstance, but if you start to break down 32:07.540 --> 32:08.610 the technique 32:08.610 --> 32:14.710 That jesus has in each one of the 32:14.710 --> 32:18.450 Uh, a red letter situations that he's in 32:19.100 --> 32:20.670 Uh, he's constantly 32:21.470 --> 32:22.270 identifying 32:23.390 --> 32:29.130 Deletions distortions and generalizations in the situations that he's in 32:29.630 --> 32:32.810 And then he's appropriately reframing 32:32.810 --> 32:39.530 Uh, using a neuro linguistic technique reframing the conversation to reoriented 32:39.530 --> 32:44.170 Reorient the belief system of the person that he's having a conversation with 32:44.570 --> 32:47.770 Okay, so that's the that's the blocking and tackling 32:48.470 --> 32:48.950 of 32:49.550 --> 32:50.950 What he's doing so 32:51.670 --> 32:58.110 um, what's and what's interesting about looking at it that way is that it it becomes dogma free 32:58.710 --> 33:01.250 um, and a lot of people who are on the fence about 33:01.830 --> 33:07.790 What being a christian means or what your belief in god actually means to you 33:07.790 --> 33:10.810 Uh, uh becomes a lot more practical 33:11.630 --> 33:16.310 Uh, because it is something that you can you can practice it you can do it 33:16.310 --> 33:18.230 um, uh, you can 33:18.950 --> 33:19.330 Uh 33:20.090 --> 33:22.290 And a lot of the words 33:23.030 --> 33:24.030 Like logos 33:24.730 --> 33:28.510 John 1 1 in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word is god 33:29.190 --> 33:30.450 Uh, or the word was god 33:32.110 --> 33:35.310 Uh, that word logos is an active process 33:35.830 --> 33:39.730 Um that gets turned in english or in latin into a static now 33:40.410 --> 33:45.990 Um, and logos is what you and I are doing right now. We are using language in order 33:46.510 --> 33:47.790 to convey ideas 33:48.310 --> 33:50.210 Uh, uh that 33:50.830 --> 33:57.450 Have the potential to reframe each other's belief systems. Um, that's something that we can do that a dog can't do 33:58.070 --> 33:58.550 um 34:00.110 --> 34:04.730 Does that does this mean that that ancient greek was a much more 34:06.110 --> 34:08.990 subtle language than anything we've got today or is it 34:10.410 --> 34:15.870 Uh, well, yeah, I think I nuanced I think maybe yeah. Yeah nuance might be a better word, but yeah 34:15.870 --> 34:21.470 Yeah, I think it was significantly more nuanced. Um, but the main thing and again, I think that you 34:21.970 --> 34:29.770 You read about these things when you start, um, investigating the history of christianity that nominalism winds up becoming a big thing now 34:30.530 --> 34:35.990 Again, I wasn't a linguist when I started this but a nominalization is simply the idea that you take 34:36.590 --> 34:36.990 a 34:37.630 --> 34:41.850 An active process like logos and then you turn it into a static noun 34:41.850 --> 34:45.890 Okay, uh the and the and the probably the the 34:46.530 --> 34:50.610 Most significant one besides logos is the word consciousness 34:51.370 --> 34:55.610 Okay, conscious consciousness. Uh, there's a 34:55.610 --> 35:02.510 A billionaire who's the kind of the george sorus of california named nicholas bergruen and he gives this 35:02.510 --> 35:05.090 He has this prize that he gives out 35:05.790 --> 35:09.210 Every year on the essay that can best define consciousness 35:09.900 --> 35:11.590 um, and it 35:11.590 --> 35:15.210 The the metadata on that is that 35:15.980 --> 35:21.470 Why in 2026 are we having essay contests where people have to define 35:22.120 --> 35:23.110 a word that 35:23.110 --> 35:28.770 In greece 3 000 years ago had a completely concrete meaning and everybody knew what it meant 35:29.440 --> 35:30.830 Which is syniodesis? 35:31.570 --> 35:33.150 um, which is simply the 35:33.150 --> 35:37.490 The ability to recognize your own frame to recognize that 35:37.490 --> 35:42.670 You have a perspective in the world and it's different from everybody else's and that 35:42.670 --> 35:47.610 The way that you frame your own reality is based on your own experiences and that 35:48.130 --> 35:50.110 It's a pretty it's a pretty concrete 35:50.910 --> 35:57.090 Definition of that word and yet in 2026 3 000 years later. We're struggling to discover what it is 35:57.650 --> 35:59.150 uh, I can go on and on 35:59.730 --> 36:06.870 About about that but jumping back to christianity for a second the the if we understand what 36:07.490 --> 36:08.990 the definitions of the 36:10.010 --> 36:14.250 Basically, there's four words. There's more. Okay, maybe five 36:14.770 --> 36:15.310 um 36:15.750 --> 36:22.410 Or six, but there's four. Uh, there's a few words that if you actually understand what they mean in greek when you're reading the new testament 36:22.410 --> 36:28.790 It it has a lot of uh impact on what the new testament means and this isn't bible code 36:28.790 --> 36:36.470 You know, you know, it's not gematria where you're taking the third letter of every page and you know putting it together and building a sentence 36:36.470 --> 36:41.810 It's it's simple because jesus is logos incarnate, right? 36:42.550 --> 36:47.250 It it says it right there jesus's logos incarnate logos is 36:47.870 --> 36:49.830 the the process of 36:49.830 --> 36:57.750 uh, uh reasoned discourse that you and i are using right now, so he's reasoned discourse incarnate 36:58.350 --> 37:06.450 Okay, it's and so if you are reading the the gospels and you understand that he it says that he's reasoned 37:07.070 --> 37:13.410 Uh, uh discourse incarnate. I'm not making that up. That's what it says if you understand what the beginning of june 37:13.410 --> 37:20.710 Yeah, exactly. Okay. That's what it says. Okay. Um, then anytime that you see he or 37:21.350 --> 37:24.130 Uh, or uh, uh, he's speaking 37:24.790 --> 37:28.250 Uh, you if you think about uh him as logos 37:28.910 --> 37:32.150 Uh, not as a as a man, but as logos 37:32.950 --> 37:33.850 uh, then 37:34.590 --> 37:40.110 A lot of the things, uh that happen wind up becoming self-evident if you think of the father as 37:40.570 --> 37:43.110 Unknowable truth when he says that only through me 37:43.690 --> 37:49.910 Can you get to the father only through reasoned discourse? Right? Okay. Can you get to the truth? 37:51.190 --> 37:55.570 Okay, then ding ding ding, you know a lot of lights go off. Um, and so 37:56.110 --> 38:01.110 Uh, you know when when you start to read the bible and understand it in that 38:01.650 --> 38:02.170 uh 38:02.660 --> 38:06.070 in that uh epistemological and linguistic frame 38:06.640 --> 38:09.990 Uh, a a lot of what winds up happening is 38:10.420 --> 38:15.950 Uh, is is this belief reframing and so why does that wind up becoming? 38:16.710 --> 38:22.070 Uh, uh, so important today in 2026 and that is because I believe that 38:22.580 --> 38:28.110 In this battleground that you're talking about where belief system winds up becoming 38:28.110 --> 38:33.530 Uh, the the the main way that human beings are controlled 38:34.470 --> 38:41.010 Then you need to be able to uh, you need to be able to find a way to find the father 38:41.590 --> 38:44.390 Okay in a truth-free environment 38:44.390 --> 38:48.330 And I don't think that jesus was dealing with a different situation 38:49.270 --> 38:49.910 Uh 38:50.330 --> 38:54.310 In in his day, then we're dealing with in our day in that 38:54.310 --> 39:00.410 Um, you've got a bunch of people who are running around who who are trying to control other people's belief systems 39:01.070 --> 39:01.650 and 39:02.230 --> 39:06.450 Jesus is giving a a a basic blocking and tackling 39:07.230 --> 39:08.650 Uh a toolkit 39:09.290 --> 39:13.850 For people to be able to discern truth in a truth-free environment 39:14.340 --> 39:16.430 Right? If you don't know anything else 39:17.030 --> 39:21.970 Uh, if you use these methods, uh, you can find your way to the father 39:21.970 --> 39:25.650 You can use reason discourse in order to find your way to the truth 39:26.410 --> 39:30.590 And I think that that's a very practical way of looking at christianity 39:31.210 --> 39:32.430 I was very 39:33.630 --> 39:34.190 struck 39:34.950 --> 39:37.150 Um when reading your thesis 39:37.990 --> 39:38.550 um 39:39.630 --> 39:40.190 about 39:40.930 --> 39:41.810 something that I 39:42.590 --> 39:45.710 Already intuitive to it a while back, but I hadn't had it 39:46.270 --> 39:49.530 confirmed really when I started going down the rubber hole 39:50.550 --> 39:53.650 And becoming a sort of more serious christian at the same time 39:54.370 --> 39:58.230 I realized that the two things were intimately connected that that that when 39:59.010 --> 40:05.030 The the journey that you take as a christian is very similar to the the the journey you take when you go down the rubber hole 40:05.030 --> 40:08.570 And you have to cast all your old life behind you 40:08.570 --> 40:14.270 You have to abandon and you do you get abandoned by everyone. Um pretty much. He's not on the same path 40:15.230 --> 40:15.670 um 40:16.410 --> 40:17.890 And there are very few of you 40:20.470 --> 40:26.850 Global warming is a massive con. There was no evidence whatsoever 40:27.530 --> 40:34.630 That man-made climate change is a problem that is going to kill us that we need to amend our lifestyle 40:34.630 --> 40:41.190 In order to deal with it. It's a non-existent problem. But how do you explain this stuff to your 40:41.190 --> 40:48.890 Normie friends? Well, I've just brought out the revised edition of my 2012 classic book 40:49.450 --> 40:53.290 Watermelons which captures the story of how 40:53.750 --> 40:55.490 Some really nasty people 40:55.930 --> 41:04.550 Decided to invent the global warming scare in order to fleece you to take away your freedoms to take away your land 41:05.370 --> 41:10.150 It's a shocking story. I wrote it as I say in the well 2011 actually 41:10.150 --> 41:17.810 The first edition came out and it's a snapshot of a particular era the era when 41:18.310 --> 41:23.370 The people behind the chime climate change scan got caught red-handed 41:23.970 --> 41:25.090 Tinkering with the data 41:25.090 --> 41:29.490 Torturing till it screamed in a scandal that I helped christen 41:30.210 --> 41:37.230 Climategate so I give you the background to to the skull jugglery that went on in in these seats of learning where 41:37.230 --> 41:40.650 These supposed experts were informing us. We've got to act now 41:41.230 --> 41:46.450 I rumbled their their scan. I then asked the question. Okay, if it is a scan 41:47.170 --> 41:49.770 Who's doing this and and why? 41:50.490 --> 41:51.230 It's a good story 41:51.770 --> 41:56.050 I I've kept the the original book pretty much as is but I've written 41:56.050 --> 42:00.690 Two new chapters one at the beginning and one at the end 42:00.690 --> 42:04.710 Explaining how it's even worse than we thought 42:05.330 --> 42:08.570 I think it's a I think it still stands up. I think it's it's a good read 42:08.570 --> 42:11.970 I obviously I'm biased but I'd recommend it you can buy it from 42:12.870 --> 42:14.450 jamesdellingpole.co.uk 42:15.150 --> 42:16.270 forward slash shop 42:16.270 --> 42:21.330 But you're probably fine. I might just go to my website and look for it jamesdellingpole.co.uk 42:22.050 --> 42:29.470 And I hope it helps keep you informed and gives you the material you need to bring around all those 42:29.970 --> 42:36.970 People who are still persuaded that oh, it's a disaster. We must amend our ways and appease the gods appease mother god 42:36.970 --> 42:38.850 No, we don't it's a scam 42:42.490 --> 42:43.750 I was very 42:44.950 --> 42:45.550 Struck 42:46.390 --> 42:48.450 When reading your thesis 42:49.270 --> 42:49.870 um 42:50.910 --> 42:51.510 about 42:52.210 --> 42:53.130 something that I 42:53.850 --> 42:57.030 Already intuitive to it at a while back, but I hadn't had it 42:57.590 --> 43:00.810 confirmed really when I started going down the rubber hole 43:01.490 --> 43:01.890 and 43:02.450 --> 43:04.950 Becoming a sort of more serious Christian at the same time 43:05.830 --> 43:09.610 I realized that the two things were intimately connected that that that when 43:10.250 --> 43:16.350 The the journey that you take as a Christian is very similar to the the the journey you take when you go down the rubber hole 43:16.890 --> 43:19.890 And you have to cast all your old life behind you 43:19.890 --> 43:25.630 You have to abandon and you do you get abandoned by everyone pretty much who's not on the same path 43:26.470 --> 43:26.990 um 43:27.630 --> 43:29.210 And there are very few of you 43:29.870 --> 43:32.330 And you get you get persecuted for it 43:32.770 --> 43:36.590 These things apply both to conspiracy theorists and christians. Mm-hmm 43:37.290 --> 43:37.630 it's 43:38.090 --> 43:38.670 I mean 43:38.670 --> 43:40.830 And you've explained why now 43:41.790 --> 43:49.010 Well, again, I'm I'm I'm just looking at the words, but if you understand that uh, jesus's logos incarnate 43:49.510 --> 43:51.010 and that um 43:51.870 --> 43:55.290 Again, there's the the words are logos, which means 43:56.270 --> 43:57.270 Reason discourse 43:58.470 --> 43:59.830 There's crisis 44:00.630 --> 44:07.370 Okay, which in english means something bad is about to happen. Okay, but in greek it means discernment 44:07.890 --> 44:11.950 So then you have to ask yourself the question. So so the political 44:11.950 --> 44:16.730 translation of words is there's a is called hermeneutics 44:17.450 --> 44:19.270 um, and and so 44:19.790 --> 44:25.830 uh, the translation of logos to the word or uh, uh crisis 44:26.410 --> 44:29.770 To crisis in english as opposed to discernment 44:29.770 --> 44:35.090 Okay, these are political decisions to get made right. You think so 44:35.830 --> 44:40.070 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. They were hijacked deliberately and distorted 44:40.610 --> 44:43.030 Yes, this lens for epistemological 44:43.590 --> 44:44.350 ends, yes 44:45.050 --> 44:46.250 Okay, so 44:46.930 --> 44:52.590 Because if you change the meaning of a word then you change the belief system in the people that are reading those words 44:54.850 --> 45:01.550 That's quite a it's quite a long way from crisis and its original meaning of discernment to 45:02.270 --> 45:03.510 Yeah, i'm having a crisis 45:04.230 --> 45:05.770 Well, what what about meek? 45:07.110 --> 45:08.110 You ride horse 45:09.270 --> 45:12.270 You ride horses, right? I do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 45:12.270 --> 45:15.870 Meek in its greek form one again 45:16.250 --> 45:20.190 You have to kind of dig through the little scott lexicon in order to get there 45:20.190 --> 45:26.310 But meek in its original form is that ability that that reserved strength 45:27.020 --> 45:34.630 And the and the the uh example that they give the it's in i can't remember which greek poet wrote about it 45:34.630 --> 45:39.450 Um, but it's the ability to control a warhorse with your reins 45:41.370 --> 45:41.950 Right 45:42.580 --> 45:45.970 Which i failed to do the other the other the other week when i broke my finger 45:46.520 --> 45:50.670 Yeah, my warhorse which was an was an ex racehorse 45:51.370 --> 45:52.870 Was so strong 45:53.570 --> 45:59.990 And i was trying to rein him in and i couldn't and i literally broke my finger on his on his neck strap trying to 45:59.990 --> 46:00.930 And in fact 46:01.510 --> 46:06.110 I broke one finger and the other finger which is the other finger that goes under under the neck strap the again 46:06.110 --> 46:09.750 My ring finger i've damaged one of the nerves. Um, i 46:10.970 --> 46:16.130 Because i've been focused on the broken finger i hadn't realized that the other finger was was a problem too 46:16.670 --> 46:22.490 Well, i did that with a little teeny dog with my with my uh with my little finger on my right hand 46:22.490 --> 46:28.030 Years ago, so you shouldn't be embarrassed. Okay. Okay, but that's um 46:28.030 --> 46:33.310 Of course this this changes the meaning of of the so me 46:33.690 --> 46:34.490 Here at the earth 46:35.250 --> 46:35.530 Yeah 46:36.270 --> 46:40.050 The mink so it's not people who are just kind of going. Oh 46:40.630 --> 46:42.030 Do you think so? Oh really? 46:43.130 --> 46:47.950 Well, whatever whatever what is our current understanding of meekness. It's just kind of 46:48.510 --> 46:52.490 It's kind of weak and humble and you know quiet and you know 46:53.070 --> 47:00.510 Uh, but no it's reserved strength is is what them strength. Well, that makes that makes more sense that they would inherit the earth 47:00.510 --> 47:05.710 Of course it does so much so much more sense. Do you think? 47:06.390 --> 47:07.830 Do you think that? 47:09.290 --> 47:11.030 Um, the church fathers 47:12.810 --> 47:18.050 Get this or not or are they working on the mistranslation? Do you think i mean do you think 47:18.050 --> 47:26.310 Christianity has been almost totally taken over by these these kind of by the hermeneutics the by by the the false definitions 47:26.310 --> 47:31.410 I think roman christianity. I said something to my wife yesterday. My wife is a catholic 47:31.410 --> 47:35.550 She said that she loved you saying this. Well, no, she i make her very uncomfortable 47:35.550 --> 47:40.830 uh, but uh, uh, she was uh, I did my pod 47:41.030 --> 47:48.770 My my live stream yesterday and somebody was asked she was she moderates my chats for me and um, somebody was uh 47:48.770 --> 47:54.290 Be rating her about you know, what kind of a christian I am. Is he a catholic? Is he at this? Is yeah 47:54.890 --> 47:59.190 And I've I've thought about this a lot because it's very important to my wife and um 47:59.190 --> 48:03.710 And I I came to the conclusion. Oh just yesterday. I I looked at her 48:03.710 --> 48:06.970 I I thought of this a few days ago, but it's the first time it came out of my mouth 48:06.970 --> 48:13.050 I said I figured out what kind of a christian that I am and she said what's that and I said I'm a lowercase c catholic 48:14.770 --> 48:18.810 Um, oh, right. Yeah. Well, that's that's the universal that yeah, right 48:19.670 --> 48:23.350 So that she got she didn't she didn't laugh, but it made her smile 48:23.350 --> 48:26.610 You know like it. So do you do you reckon the orthodox of 48:27.050 --> 48:33.030 I I was struck when I went to um to moscov last year and I was taken to the 48:33.030 --> 48:40.440 The the fantastic super monastery outside mosco where lots of good stuff's happened. Um, and they've got you know, loads of 48:41.130 --> 48:42.970 loads of good icons and 48:43.600 --> 48:45.550 It's it's serious. Um 48:46.280 --> 48:47.710 And it's quite heavily 48:48.530 --> 48:50.350 fortified the walls outside 48:50.350 --> 48:52.950 um the the the the surrounding walls 48:53.440 --> 48:55.510 and somebody told me that that 48:56.160 --> 48:57.250 back in the day 48:57.700 --> 48:59.770 that this monastery was besieged 49:00.550 --> 49:00.910 and 49:01.630 --> 49:07.630 Pretty much everyone inside died, but they helped they held out and and and the the monks became warriors when they 49:08.170 --> 49:10.830 in times of I spoke to say in times of crisis 49:12.090 --> 49:13.210 but but 49:14.250 --> 49:15.370 when when 49:16.490 --> 49:20.850 When when trouble appeared the the monks were not meek any longer 49:20.850 --> 49:26.430 They they they picked up their spears or their swords and or their war hammers and went out to fight 49:27.390 --> 49:30.810 I was just wondering is is that still there? Do you think in the well? 49:31.010 --> 49:35.970 Well, it's funny because when I came to when I again what I do is 49:35.970 --> 49:38.370 Uh, I this has been a journey for me 49:38.370 --> 49:41.790 Like if you look at my podcast two years ago or three years ago 49:41.790 --> 49:48.550 I wasn't talking about any of this stuff because I hadn't figured any of it out yet. Um, and and uh, and so 49:49.070 --> 49:50.190 Uh, I have an audience 49:51.390 --> 49:55.830 That's global and one of my uh, one of my uh subscribers 49:56.430 --> 49:59.110 started texting me because he lived in greece 50:00.010 --> 50:03.130 And he said peter he said you have to move to greece 50:03.130 --> 50:07.630 And I said why is that and he goes because we've known what you're saying for 2000 years now 50:08.190 --> 50:15.170 Okay, right, right and and and and so when you start to look at things like the fourth crusade 50:15.830 --> 50:17.730 where the roman church 50:18.490 --> 50:19.790 teamed up with 50:21.370 --> 50:22.370 the venetians 50:22.950 --> 50:28.470 In order and convinced a bunch of french knights that they were going to go to jerusalem 50:29.170 --> 50:34.410 and uh free jerusalem from the moors or the saracens 50:34.410 --> 50:36.950 I can't remember who it was that was in jerusalem at the time 50:37.710 --> 50:41.790 But they wound up going to constant noble and sacking constant noble 50:42.630 --> 50:43.770 in 1204 50:44.530 --> 50:47.510 um and replacing all of the greeks breaking 50:48.090 --> 50:48.630 prelates 50:49.270 --> 50:58.050 In the in the church with latin speaking prelates. So there's a few important things that happen in the in the uh 50:58.050 --> 51:03.290 fourth crusade that you don't really read about in a lot of books. Um, one is that 51:04.010 --> 51:10.770 The monetary system of the roman empire, uh, the panophysics maximus in constant noble 51:10.770 --> 51:13.970 Had the right to mint gold coins 51:14.770 --> 51:15.190 um 51:15.190 --> 51:20.410 And then the second thing was that the greek speaking catholic church got replaced with the latin speaking 51:21.090 --> 51:21.850 catholic church 51:22.450 --> 51:24.170 um in 1204 so 51:24.690 --> 51:31.250 Those things happened where you basically had, you know catholic on cat. It was a crusade, but it was catholics fighting catholics 51:31.250 --> 51:33.050 um greek catholics fighting 51:33.890 --> 51:35.570 roman catholics, yeah 51:35.570 --> 51:36.750 Yeah, so 51:37.310 --> 51:37.730 Right 51:38.690 --> 51:42.530 So from an epistemological standpoint just from a language standpoint 51:42.530 --> 51:47.570 That's a that there's a big important shift if you understand the importance of taking 51:48.190 --> 51:51.350 logos and turning it into word or taking, you know 51:51.350 --> 51:54.470 Uh prowess and turning it into crisis or I 51:54.470 --> 52:00.550 I don't know if that's the right word. That's the right one. Anyway, um, cross is meek. Yeah 52:01.410 --> 52:04.210 Proud uh prowess is meek. Yeah. Yeah 52:04.210 --> 52:07.750 So you got you have you have logos you have crisis 52:07.750 --> 52:14.170 You have prowess and then you have agape agape is love and it's it's it's love that you do 52:15.010 --> 52:21.090 It's it's an again. It's an active word. It's not a noun. It's not a feeling that you have it's something that you do 52:21.750 --> 52:22.310 um 52:22.990 --> 52:28.630 You do something for the good of the people that you're making your your your decisions for 52:29.330 --> 52:31.310 um, and and that's a 52:31.310 --> 52:32.750 again in english 52:32.750 --> 52:37.410 Uh, when when people start talking about uh, uh, christian love 52:38.030 --> 52:40.510 Uh, well, it was agape in greek 52:41.130 --> 52:48.030 In in english, we tend to take uh, a bunch of different forms of love arrows and agape and 52:48.030 --> 52:54.490 Uh, I think that there's a couple of other greek forms of the word love and then we put them all into this word love and it becomes 52:55.070 --> 52:57.770 um, when you do that, uh, you create 52:58.350 --> 52:59.090 uh confusion 52:59.730 --> 53:02.650 Uh, and uh, which I call magic 53:02.750 --> 53:07.330 I think that when you take something self-evident like agape and then you turn it into english 53:08.650 --> 53:14.190 Love or probably a better example is logos you take logos and you turn it into the word 53:14.790 --> 53:22.090 Then you're nominalizing it. You're turning it into an object and that allows you to introduce an intermediary 53:22.590 --> 53:28.550 Uh, who can explain to you what the thing that you don't the self-evident thing that you don't understand 53:29.070 --> 53:34.270 The reason that you don't understand it is because they've taken the self-evident component of it, which is 53:34.270 --> 53:35.690 a meaning 53:36.850 --> 53:42.730 And then they've turned it into an object that you have to be able to kind of puzzle out somehow 53:42.730 --> 53:46.790 And you need help you need someone to explain it to you. Yeah 53:47.550 --> 53:48.950 So a magician 53:49.870 --> 53:51.210 this this is 53:51.870 --> 53:54.470 really really interesting and it 53:54.470 --> 53:54.790 it 53:55.430 --> 53:57.610 Goes a long way to confirming my view 53:58.990 --> 54:04.950 That christianity is is too important to be left to the uh, to the church 54:06.930 --> 54:07.490 Because 54:09.150 --> 54:10.270 Yeah, it 54:10.750 --> 54:15.090 Well, again, I again, uh, I I think that there's 54:15.610 --> 54:21.730 Just looking at it from an epistemological level. Matthew 1820 says we're two or three gathered. I am there 54:22.250 --> 54:28.430 Okay, the logos is there. Okay, the reason discourse is there. He also said in at least 54:28.430 --> 54:30.490 I think eight different places 54:31.130 --> 54:34.530 That if you put more than 11 people in the room bad things are going to happen 54:35.630 --> 54:37.190 Um, did he say that? 54:37.830 --> 54:41.950 The illusion is to judas, right 54:42.730 --> 54:45.490 Okay, okay, but but basically 54:47.410 --> 54:49.210 The number 12 54:49.830 --> 54:57.990 Is is is in there several times and um, and he said, you know, he he says one of the 12 of you is going to 54:57.990 --> 55:03.850 Betray me and I think that the inference there is that if you keep your group smaller than 12 55:04.790 --> 55:10.550 Yeah, okay, and I believe I I actually fundamentally believe that the reason that christianity 55:10.550 --> 55:13.330 became uh, the grassroots 55:13.330 --> 55:13.830 Roots 55:14.490 --> 55:15.810 Uh movement that it became 55:16.630 --> 55:22.630 specifically because of that strategy that small, uh, it's called the 55:22.630 --> 55:27.610 In in encountering intelligence encountering intelligence. It's called the cell structure, right? 55:27.770 --> 55:29.830 You have to say it sounds like a terrorist structure to me 55:29.830 --> 55:36.970 Well, they want to call it a terrorist structure because the the romans thought the christians were terrorists. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah 55:37.770 --> 55:42.950 So so so the and I keep telling I I said this on my show yesterday. It's like 55:43.330 --> 55:43.970 I don't want 55:43.970 --> 55:48.590 I don't want to put together a group of a million people that follow 55:49.170 --> 55:52.650 Uh, peter duke or james stelling pa or anybody else 55:52.650 --> 55:56.230 I want people to figure out what i'm saying and then go tell their friends 55:57.030 --> 56:00.030 Okay, that's because that's the winning strategy 56:00.750 --> 56:01.230 um 56:02.270 --> 56:05.910 And that's why christianity became an unstoppable force 56:08.370 --> 56:13.150 I'm I'm with you on all this. I said you what apart from and I'm trying to 56:13.330 --> 56:13.570 uh 56:14.270 --> 56:15.850 Study russian at the moment 56:16.730 --> 56:23.230 I mean you've made me think I really should be doing ancient greek. Um, what what's the way what what is koine greek? 56:23.410 --> 56:27.730 Is that is that just ancient greek koine look look here's here's the great news 56:28.450 --> 56:30.930 um, the great news is that 56:31.650 --> 56:34.430 uh, large language models are not 56:35.250 --> 56:41.350 Uh, I don't believe in the the two words artificial intelligence. I don't I think it's a misnomer 56:41.910 --> 56:48.510 But the large language models are really good at language. They're really good at it. And you have to be careful 56:49.110 --> 56:51.990 Uh, but a lot of the research that I have been doing 56:52.630 --> 57:00.570 Uh, I go into large language models. I ask it to look at the original koine koine greek. I have specific, um 57:01.630 --> 57:07.530 Uh, uh prompts that I use that I'll share with you that I'll share with anybody in order to keep it focused 57:07.530 --> 57:13.590 You know in order to make sure that it's not hallucinating and telling me something that isn't so 57:14.250 --> 57:18.330 um, but the large language models are really really good at 57:18.330 --> 57:24.690 um at doing translation and nuanced translation and you have to steer it 57:24.690 --> 57:26.730 So when i'm studying greek, I always 57:27.530 --> 57:31.370 Uh, I always require that it use the oldest 57:31.930 --> 57:33.050 koine greek 57:33.610 --> 57:38.130 Sources people go which version of the bible do you use do you use king james? 57:38.310 --> 57:44.950 Do you use the vulgate do you and it's like no, I used the original koine greek, you know, um, and they're and you can 57:44.950 --> 57:46.770 access the um 57:47.590 --> 57:53.670 Uh, the oldest forms of the koine greek which are in the vatican library because they've all been digitized 57:54.410 --> 57:55.170 um, okay 57:55.170 --> 57:59.170 Do you have a name the gospels in the 57:59.830 --> 58:03.570 Yes, they do and I don't know them off the top of my head, but I have them in my notes 58:03.570 --> 58:04.970 So so the gospels 58:05.710 --> 58:09.150 It's right. The the gospels were all originally written in greek 58:11.490 --> 58:15.170 With the with the old testament you've got the septuagint 58:15.590 --> 58:22.030 Which is it? Yeah. Well, yeah, and there and there and there are there is um controversy about whether or not the septuagint 58:22.030 --> 58:25.790 Um is actually was actually written in greek also and then translated 58:25.790 --> 58:28.310 Uh in the sixth century to hebru 58:28.310 --> 58:30.090 Yes, well, this is okay 58:30.090 --> 58:36.890 And given that we don't there was no evidence of this old hebru the uh hebru language is that 58:36.890 --> 58:41.670 Which is crazy. I mean it does my head in to think that there's this 58:42.390 --> 58:48.170 That supposedly the language in which the old testament was written doesn't exist anywhere 58:48.750 --> 58:50.670 It you know makes me a bit suspicious 58:51.410 --> 58:57.970 And you should be and and but but but that's why look looking at things on an epistemological level. It's like, okay 58:57.970 --> 58:59.410 Here's a belief system 59:00.030 --> 59:02.670 Okay, that's being used in order to control people 59:03.170 --> 59:07.150 Okay, you can get down into the weeds of the dog dogma of it 59:07.150 --> 59:12.510 And but if you if you stay on a on a metal level, uh, you can say, okay 59:12.510 --> 59:16.270 Well, this is the belief system that was being used in order to control all of these people 59:16.970 --> 59:18.770 um, and uh 59:19.310 --> 59:22.190 Is it true or not? That's a different question, right? 59:23.250 --> 59:29.990 Um, uh, but was it used as the motivation for getting people to plant crops at a certain time or 59:29.990 --> 59:33.950 You know, uh, how is that these yesties? 59:34.810 --> 59:37.850 Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 59:38.830 --> 59:40.110 So, uh 59:40.630 --> 59:42.850 You know and and that kind of you know 59:42.850 --> 59:45.550 You know part of what my 59:46.370 --> 59:47.910 exploration has has been 59:47.910 --> 59:54.010 Is trying to figure out, you know, who this cult is that that controlled the world and yeah 59:56.030 --> 01:00:00.430 And and I don't think it's the jews. I don't I'm not into that 01:00:00.430 --> 01:00:04.070 What do they even exist? I mean, I I don't even know who the jews are so that 01:00:04.070 --> 01:00:08.530 Yeah, well, we'll start we'll start to find out where the word the word jew came came from 01:00:08.530 --> 01:00:09.770 Where's that word again? 01:00:10.150 --> 01:00:13.690 One of the great things about doing this and large language models 01:00:13.690 --> 01:00:18.290 Okay, is that you can go in and you can say where did the word jew come from, right? 01:00:18.430 --> 01:00:22.150 And I haven't done that. It's on my list to oh, you must do and you must get back to me 01:00:22.150 --> 01:00:25.030 So I should use that must there, but it's quite it's quite imperative 01:00:25.030 --> 01:00:28.710 I know that Hebrew means from over on the other side of the river 01:00:29.470 --> 01:00:29.870 Okay 01:00:30.410 --> 01:00:35.730 Uh, which it must be the Jordan. So it's the tribes that lived on one. So I think that like 01:00:36.590 --> 01:00:39.030 like the Levites and the 01:00:39.550 --> 01:00:47.050 Judea and Levites lived south of the Jordan and the other 10 lived north of the Jordan. So Hebrew means over the river 01:00:48.190 --> 01:00:48.690 Um 01:00:49.550 --> 01:00:55.370 Again, when you when you start to learn what the words mean then things start to make a lot more sense. Yes. Yeah 01:00:55.370 --> 01:01:01.310 No, I I I share your suspicion of the the it's the jews because I think you've got to define jews. You've got to 01:01:01.310 --> 01:01:05.550 I I'm I am very taken with the with the finician 01:01:06.450 --> 01:01:06.950 theory 01:01:07.770 --> 01:01:15.270 Yeah, yeah, and I see the matrilineal nature of it because where there is where there is a crossover with with with with the jews 01:01:15.270 --> 01:01:15.950 um 01:01:17.110 --> 01:01:24.210 But I can see it would really work as a kind of as a sort of secretive control mechanism 01:01:25.790 --> 01:01:32.110 Which the matrilineal bloodlines? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Um, yeah, and it's 01:01:33.210 --> 01:01:33.730 I 01:01:33.730 --> 01:01:40.990 Yeah, I mean I could I could go on and on about that. Um, but the uh, uh, the child sacrifice thing, um on 01:01:40.990 --> 01:01:45.630 Tell me about that. Well, I mean on january 5th. I walked by this really weird step 01:01:45.630 --> 01:01:49.610 So I was the official photographer for stop the steel 01:01:49.610 --> 01:01:55.610 I was a maga through and through and I was on the I was on the top echelon of 01:01:55.610 --> 01:02:00.810 Maga like I was involved with the the the people who were the major influencers 01:02:01.430 --> 01:02:05.190 And my entree into that was my ability as a photographer 01:02:06.070 --> 01:02:12.830 So I built a network of of the most influential maga people out there. Um, and 01:02:13.450 --> 01:02:20.190 Uh, I felt like I was in a honey in a honeypot slaughter pen on january 6th 01:02:20.190 --> 01:02:26.050 I was at the at the at the capital. I had a credential. I was in the front row 01:02:26.050 --> 01:02:31.950 I was on the steps and uh, and so I felt completely betrayed on the on the sixth 01:02:32.490 --> 01:02:33.530 but on the fifth 01:02:34.570 --> 01:02:35.130 I 01:02:35.790 --> 01:02:38.150 because I come from hollywood 01:02:39.450 --> 01:02:46.590 I uh decided that the best use of my time getting there a day before the event was to walk the plant 01:02:46.590 --> 01:02:50.890 Which was to go to all the different locations that were scheduled 01:02:51.470 --> 01:02:53.970 For donald trump to be the next day 01:02:54.570 --> 01:02:58.990 To figure out where the best place to stand to get a good picture would be, you know 01:02:58.990 --> 01:03:05.710 Where you know because the the the name of the game is getting there first, right? Yeah, and so I was walking down 01:03:06.590 --> 01:03:14.330 Constitution avenue with a a friend of mine who I had hired as an assistant who just happened to be an expert in the occult and esoteric 01:03:15.010 --> 01:03:18.750 um, that's he's got thousands of books any points to 01:03:19.430 --> 01:03:23.550 Uh, the sermafridite on the top of something called the melan auditorium 01:03:24.090 --> 01:03:28.890 That's supposed to be the goddess columbia whoever why do americans have? 01:03:29.530 --> 01:03:35.350 Made up goddesses. There is no goddess columbia. By the way, there's no roman greek goddess columbia 01:03:35.350 --> 01:03:43.070 Okay, that's a american made up thing like britannia is a made up british, okay, and um 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:44.510 And so 01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:50.990 But it was cold and I didn't have time and then we kept walking and a block down in front of the national archive 01:03:51.380 --> 01:03:58.350 Is this statue that's called heritage that is our another hermaphrodite. Okay, so it's a very 01:03:59.070 --> 01:04:03.390 male looking uh frame shoulders legs feet 01:04:04.110 --> 01:04:06.910 Uh, and and an androgynous bumma 01:04:07.980 --> 01:04:09.810 Yes androgynous face 01:04:10.540 --> 01:04:16.390 With boobs, right and in one arm. It's holding a baby in a sheaf of wheat 01:04:17.040 --> 01:04:21.450 And in the other arm, it's it's holding an amphora or an urn 01:04:22.050 --> 01:04:28.050 Um with a snake on top of it and on the base of it is a winged solar disk 01:04:29.030 --> 01:04:35.710 Um, so this is america, right? Yeah, this thing was this was put up in the 1930s 01:04:36.370 --> 01:04:37.450 okay, and 01:04:38.430 --> 01:04:42.510 Okay, and I was going what is that and and by the way, I've done some research on it 01:04:42.510 --> 01:04:51.050 It was it was delivered as a solid uh a block of limestone and the um the sculptor actually sculpted it out on site 01:04:51.570 --> 01:04:56.350 So they put a little like curtain around it and the guy sculpted it where it sits 01:04:56.350 --> 01:05:01.110 Right there, so they didn't sculpt it someplace and move it. They they sculpted it in place 01:05:01.750 --> 01:05:07.370 anyway, um, I I ran into a but I I've talked to you before about mrs. Heritage history 01:05:07.450 --> 01:05:13.010 And uh, I've been doing a lot of research on the Phoenicians and I found a book by a woman named I think 01:05:13.530 --> 01:05:15.170 Uh, justine quinn 01:05:15.810 --> 01:05:18.710 Is that her name alice justine quinn I think 01:05:19.210 --> 01:05:21.210 oxford archaeology professor 01:05:21.950 --> 01:05:28.070 Wrote this book called in search of the Phoenicians where she talks about these things called, uh, uh 01:05:28.070 --> 01:05:31.810 It's a it's a subset of the Phoenicians 01:05:32.350 --> 01:05:36.330 First of all Phoenicians just means people from the levant if you live in Greece 01:05:36.330 --> 01:05:41.010 It doesn't it's there was no country called Phoenicia. There's no Phoenician flag 01:05:41.550 --> 01:05:45.690 People will tell you that the red cross or that these other things are Phoenicians 01:05:46.290 --> 01:05:49.730 Um, it may something had something that they they all had in common 01:05:49.730 --> 01:05:56.050 But it is they didn't think of themselves as Phoenicians. They thought of themselves as tyrians or you know, whatever 01:05:57.110 --> 01:05:57.590 um 01:05:57.590 --> 01:06:01.670 Anyway, uh, it it did a very good job of explaining 01:06:01.670 --> 01:06:08.590 Um, uh to me my it gave me the the knowledge to be able to look at that statue and interpret it and basically 01:06:09.430 --> 01:06:09.770 uh 01:06:10.490 --> 01:06:17.670 What that statue says to me my interpretation of it my semiotic interpretation of that statue is that 01:06:17.670 --> 01:06:19.430 uh, the seed of 01:06:20.090 --> 01:06:22.430 Uh, uh the seed of the past 01:06:23.030 --> 01:06:25.350 Brings the harvest of the future the seed 01:06:25.990 --> 01:06:27.530 Is the is the baby 01:06:28.130 --> 01:06:29.770 okay, because in 01:06:29.770 --> 01:06:34.210 child sacrifice what what what quinn found in all of these 01:06:34.830 --> 01:06:39.250 Uh, toffet cult they had the she calls it the toffet cult 01:06:39.870 --> 01:06:42.370 The toffets are a circle 01:06:43.170 --> 01:06:50.990 Where there's a bunch of urns buried in the circle and inside the urns are the remains of sacrificed infants 01:06:51.550 --> 01:06:55.690 So we we we hear about the uh, the baby sacrificing 01:06:56.170 --> 01:07:02.890 But we don't hear about the the uh, the the telos or the eschaton. Why were these people burning babies? 01:07:03.210 --> 01:07:09.510 Like what why were they doing that? Okay, and um on the tops of 01:07:10.010 --> 01:07:15.630 The the circles are these stela s t i l e stelae 01:07:16.250 --> 01:07:18.890 um, which look like gravestone markers 01:07:19.390 --> 01:07:21.250 um, except that when quinn 01:07:21.930 --> 01:07:22.310 um 01:07:24.130 --> 01:07:27.330 Translated them and she translated like many of them 01:07:27.830 --> 01:07:30.590 Um, they're receipts like you would get at costco 01:07:32.790 --> 01:07:40.230 For for for this uh payment, which was this baby that we sacrificed we got this 01:07:41.290 --> 01:07:43.350 Product we got this harvest 01:07:44.410 --> 01:07:46.990 So so they're they're receipts 01:07:47.490 --> 01:07:50.510 The the stela are the receipts um that 01:07:51.270 --> 01:07:54.370 Confirm that for the sacrifice there was a payoff 01:07:55.330 --> 01:08:00.410 Okay, and so uh, and so you wind up uh with this 01:08:01.370 --> 01:08:04.590 Uh, very trans it's the it's very transactional 01:08:04.590 --> 01:08:10.130 Let's just say that that the that the uh that the stela are very transactional 01:08:10.130 --> 01:08:16.290 So then I I remembered the statue and I went back and I looked at the statue and I went well the urn 01:08:16.290 --> 01:08:19.030 Is where the baby goes after they sacrificed the baby 01:08:20.550 --> 01:08:25.470 Okay, and the and the the the wheat which is the harvest 01:08:26.310 --> 01:08:30.770 Is the thing that's guaranteed by the sacrifice of the child 01:08:31.350 --> 01:08:34.270 So it's a child sacrifice statue 01:08:35.010 --> 01:08:36.690 That is sitting on the steps 01:08:37.410 --> 01:08:41.050 Of the united states national archives that was put there 01:08:41.830 --> 01:08:43.330 in the 1930s 01:08:44.390 --> 01:08:47.530 Okay, so are you gonna is that the jews? 01:08:48.090 --> 01:08:49.950 I don't think that's the jews 01:08:49.950 --> 01:08:55.590 Okay, well, I think I think it just goes deeper. I deeper than that. I mean that the 01:08:56.330 --> 01:09:00.110 That the point I sometimes make is that the jews didn't exist as a people 01:09:01.650 --> 01:09:03.330 Before a certain period 01:09:03.330 --> 01:09:07.270 So you've got it. You've got to wonder who was doing the bad shit before them and and it's 01:09:08.550 --> 01:09:12.570 Well, the old testament is filled with stories of getting rid of those people 01:09:13.270 --> 01:09:15.050 Right. Yeah, well god is 01:09:15.770 --> 01:09:21.230 Frustration they were the golden calf people, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah 01:09:21.890 --> 01:09:25.070 They were the people samuel was supposed to wipe out and get rid of 01:09:25.810 --> 01:09:28.970 Right, so a lot of this might just be revenge 01:09:29.750 --> 01:09:34.790 You know the Phoenician revenge by blaming it on the jews and then taking all of their territory back 01:09:35.770 --> 01:09:36.870 Yeah to me 01:09:38.690 --> 01:09:39.130 I 01:09:40.070 --> 01:09:42.850 Yeah, I don't think that statue was put there by accident 01:09:42.850 --> 01:09:47.190 I don't think it was put there in it. It was sculpted in innocence by a guy who just 01:09:47.190 --> 01:09:48.790 happened to have seen some 01:09:48.790 --> 01:09:51.150 Phoenician sculptures on his 01:09:51.150 --> 01:09:55.370 Right, and I'm just gonna put a winged solar disc on the bottom because it looks good 01:09:55.370 --> 01:09:59.450 Don't know what yeah, whatever give her a wing. Give her a baby. Yeah, cuz 01:10:01.190 --> 01:10:01.690 No 01:10:02.410 --> 01:10:08.250 But like but likewise the statue of liberty. I don't believe there. There isn't a god liberty 01:10:08.810 --> 01:10:14.330 Okay, the the no, it's not that is lucifer, isn't it? No, it's at its addis 01:10:15.270 --> 01:10:19.190 Oh, it's a artist. Okay. It's artist from from the sable and addis 01:10:19.190 --> 01:10:21.590 And bringing this back to the testament 01:10:22.250 --> 01:10:25.650 What is addis famous for cutting off his own testicles? 01:10:26.330 --> 01:10:27.910 Oh, okay, so 01:10:28.850 --> 01:10:36.050 So addis is uh, you're breaking up. So I'll I'll talk for a second. Um addis is uh, is uh 01:10:36.050 --> 01:10:38.450 part of the sable and addis cult 01:10:39.030 --> 01:10:43.430 And famously he was kind of a shepherd who fell in love with this 01:10:43.430 --> 01:10:48.430 Goddess and then he'd be traitor because he fell in love with a nymph like a 01:10:48.430 --> 01:10:55.190 A niad or river nymph or something like that and uh, he was so ashamed that uh, he castrated himself 01:10:56.030 --> 01:11:00.830 uh, and uh, and and and bled to death I think and uh, 01:11:01.090 --> 01:11:07.030 Sibel was so uh, uh taken aback that she turned him into a tree. So a pine tree, right? 01:11:07.670 --> 01:11:09.770 um, which we all put up in our 01:11:10.490 --> 01:11:12.810 In our houses at the end of december 01:11:13.390 --> 01:11:15.090 Uh, we put oh 01:11:15.630 --> 01:11:16.570 So we do 01:11:17.230 --> 01:11:22.610 Yeah, we put this addis tree up in our in our houses. I don't think you finished making your point about um, how 01:11:22.610 --> 01:11:30.370 The finish there was a sort of subgroup of Phoenicians. Yeah, so yeah, they uh, so they were the people who were driven out of the Levant 01:11:30.370 --> 01:11:34.010 okay, so uh, so, uh, uh 01:11:34.010 --> 01:11:36.250 moses and uh company 01:11:36.830 --> 01:11:40.010 His descendants were constantly trying to get rid of these people 01:11:40.410 --> 01:11:46.530 In that part of the world and they wound up settling in colonies. Carthage was the biggest one 01:11:46.530 --> 01:11:49.530 But they were also in uh, Sicily 01:11:50.210 --> 01:11:51.850 uh, and sardinia 01:11:52.490 --> 01:11:54.690 and north and other parts of north africa 01:11:55.530 --> 01:12:02.330 um, right and so uh, and so that's and if you think about like the italian mafia 01:12:03.330 --> 01:12:09.270 uh, and the things that uh, the overlaps between uh, the their methods 01:12:10.010 --> 01:12:12.350 uh, and the italian mafia then uh 01:12:12.970 --> 01:12:18.170 Uh, it makes sense that you know in sicily and sardinia and northern africa 01:12:19.190 --> 01:12:21.010 That these things are going 01:12:21.010 --> 01:12:23.710 yeah, so 01:12:24.590 --> 01:12:30.990 Just going back. I know it's it's presumptuous to try and work out what the mind of god is 01:12:31.650 --> 01:12:31.950 but 01:12:32.730 --> 01:12:35.670 As i understand it from your theory 01:12:36.530 --> 01:12:37.130 god 01:12:38.090 --> 01:12:39.350 Sends his only son 01:12:40.780 --> 01:12:43.150 to take human flesh 01:12:44.080 --> 01:12:47.510 And to to die for our sins, but simultaneously 01:12:48.300 --> 01:12:50.670 He becomes a sort of metaphor 01:12:51.300 --> 01:12:55.130 in in in a sort of linguistic um 01:12:56.600 --> 01:13:00.410 Uh a nominalization a nominalization. Yeah 01:13:01.140 --> 01:13:02.270 That enables 01:13:03.250 --> 01:13:09.810 Because okay, so god looks at looks at the earth and he sees that he's very disappointed. I mean things have just gone 01:13:10.730 --> 01:13:15.790 Terrible that that people haven't debated his injunctions to take out the people who put their children in the fire 01:13:15.790 --> 01:13:21.450 that they've they've adopted the ways of the of the very people that he said he most appores and 01:13:22.530 --> 01:13:26.030 Unfortunately, the deal is with free will that god cannot just 01:13:26.030 --> 01:13:30.930 Just storm in there and intervene and smite smite all the bad guys and rescue all the good 01:13:30.930 --> 01:13:32.070 he has to 01:13:32.780 --> 01:13:33.330 let us 01:13:34.010 --> 01:13:35.630 Fight it out for ourselves 01:13:36.370 --> 01:13:38.850 and so what he does is he gives 01:13:39.610 --> 01:13:44.890 Through jesus he expresses he gives us the secret of 01:13:44.890 --> 01:13:50.190 A fighting back linguistically against our oppressors and discerning 01:13:52.090 --> 01:13:54.290 Yeah, yeah, is that how it works 01:13:54.760 --> 01:14:00.790 Yes, and then and then in order to control that because it became grassroots and uncontrollable 01:14:01.610 --> 01:14:07.050 Then you need to apply magic. So you need to wrap that process in a mystery 01:14:07.730 --> 01:14:11.030 And introduce experts to explain it to people 01:14:12.790 --> 01:14:15.230 Because I did god want that bit 01:14:16.250 --> 01:14:17.370 Was that a church 01:14:18.350 --> 01:14:22.410 Isn't that the church intervening in that but isn't that the sort of the political system? 01:14:22.730 --> 01:14:29.510 Ecclesia is ecclesia is another word that became church ecclesia just means a group of people. Yes. Yes 01:14:29.510 --> 01:14:31.810 So I I I I get that. Yeah 01:14:31.810 --> 01:14:35.130 I'm just 01:14:35.950 --> 01:14:36.690 Are we 01:14:36.690 --> 01:14:41.710 I haven't done enough research on on that particular component of it 01:14:42.290 --> 01:14:46.990 Frank frankly because I think that it'll cause more domestic strife for me than anything else 01:14:48.150 --> 01:14:50.650 I mean, I don't know about you Peter, but but 01:14:51.510 --> 01:14:55.530 I feel very very blessed that that my christian journey 01:14:56.910 --> 01:15:00.150 Started at about the same time as my journey down the rabbit hole 01:15:00.150 --> 01:15:03.410 because what it means is that I I haven't got 01:15:03.930 --> 01:15:08.450 That much dogma weighing me down. I mean, I mean, I'm the church of england, isn't it? 01:15:08.550 --> 01:15:10.470 You can write you can think what you like 01:15:11.250 --> 01:15:16.330 Luckily, I have a story about that but go on so so my my brother dick 01:15:16.890 --> 01:15:22.830 Is is is now a catechumen in the in the orthodox church and I I applaud it and I and I I 01:15:22.830 --> 01:15:25.150 I envy him in many ways, but 01:15:25.530 --> 01:15:27.810 I feel at the moment that 01:15:28.810 --> 01:15:29.510 I'm on 01:15:30.370 --> 01:15:34.970 I'm on a mission to find out what god really wants. I mean, what that 01:15:34.970 --> 01:15:39.250 That is the essence of godliness trying to try to do god's will 01:15:39.900 --> 01:15:44.630 And and and that that's really important to me because I think it's the key to everything 01:15:45.210 --> 01:15:45.530 um 01:15:45.530 --> 01:15:53.330 happiness apart from anything else and and um, and obviously whatever happens here after but um 01:15:55.530 --> 01:16:01.270 It's it's difficult, isn't it? It's difficult and and and what you what you what you're saying now about about 01:16:02.190 --> 01:16:04.650 logos and and um 01:16:05.470 --> 01:16:07.810 discernment and and meekness and 01:16:08.550 --> 01:16:09.570 and agape 01:16:10.490 --> 01:16:15.130 It it it makes sense to me that that it's kind of up to us to 01:16:15.690 --> 01:16:18.990 To use these skills to work out what the deal is 01:16:19.570 --> 01:16:24.210 But it's not just saying it's not just to kind of sit there and listen to what your what your priest tells 01:16:24.210 --> 01:16:26.090 kingdom of god is within you 01:16:26.690 --> 01:16:27.110 yeah 01:16:28.770 --> 01:16:30.790 That's he didn't stutter 01:16:32.090 --> 01:16:38.190 And we're not being gnostic here, but oh, I mean it's a little it's a little with a with a lowercase g 01:16:38.190 --> 01:16:40.410 Yeah, yes indeed 01:16:41.170 --> 01:16:41.590 Indeed 01:16:42.240 --> 01:16:42.570 yeah 01:16:42.570 --> 01:16:51.570 Which is right right again again the look because because being gnostic is an ab is an active product with a lowercase g 01:16:51.570 --> 01:16:52.750 Is an active process? 01:16:52.750 --> 01:16:58.310 Yeah, right with an uppercase g. It's a it's a noun. It becomes a static object 01:17:00.170 --> 01:17:01.210 Yeah, yeah 01:17:01.210 --> 01:17:08.850 And so Mike so I have a question for you. Yeah, which is your because you're an english literature major at oxford 01:17:08.850 --> 01:17:13.050 Yeah, right. Well, did they talk about this at oxford? No 01:17:14.250 --> 01:17:15.470 No, I mean 01:17:16.950 --> 01:17:20.310 I do credit my my tutor 01:17:21.010 --> 01:17:26.210 Um peter conrad who was who's brilliant with my intellectual formation. I mean he did more for me than anybody 01:17:26.750 --> 01:17:28.350 Has done before or since 01:17:28.350 --> 01:17:30.670 uh because he 01:17:31.510 --> 01:17:34.350 insisted that we work out work out stuff for ourselves 01:17:35.030 --> 01:17:40.110 He he he said you here's here's your reading list. Um and here and and 01:17:40.110 --> 01:17:45.730 You'll be here's a list of critical texts, but he said why why read the critical text when you can just 01:17:46.350 --> 01:17:48.050 Read the text and and respond 01:17:48.710 --> 01:17:53.770 Which is which is a wonderful thing to be told when you're when you're when you're you're 19 01:17:53.770 --> 01:17:58.470 And you're emerging from a school system, which has trained you to kind of parrot stuff and 01:17:59.730 --> 01:18:03.310 Um, you know, he gave me permission to think for myself, which was great 01:18:03.310 --> 01:18:09.110 But I I don't I don't think that my that the education I had in christ church was typical of the experience of 01:18:09.110 --> 01:18:14.550 Even at that even at that time when oxford was undoubtedly a better university than it is now 01:18:15.290 --> 01:18:17.570 And better at better at encouraging 01:18:19.650 --> 01:18:23.570 Original thought to a degree not on ppe maybe but in the english district of course 01:18:24.210 --> 01:18:24.730 right 01:18:25.390 --> 01:18:32.730 Again, I you know, you and I have talked about this before I just uh because I think that it's interesting because when I go to find 01:18:33.390 --> 01:18:33.910 uh 01:18:34.610 --> 01:18:39.610 Like the definitive sources a lot of them are oxford publication, right? 01:18:39.610 --> 01:18:45.130 So I was I was doing I was doing research on the fasci and uh, there's a book 01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:45.870 by 01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:52.350 Guy named quarry can't remember his name the definitive book on fat on the on the symbol 01:18:52.350 --> 01:18:55.770 The fasci which is the bundle of sticks with the axe 01:18:56.370 --> 01:18:59.210 Um was written by a guy who went to oxford 01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:04.930 Who happened to be the a guitar player in the band the lemon heads if you can imagine 01:19:05.850 --> 01:19:06.930 right, okay 01:19:06.930 --> 01:19:08.870 okay, but 01:19:09.810 --> 01:19:17.730 My analysis after looking at that book my analysis of what the fasci really means is that it's the symbol that 01:19:18.390 --> 01:19:23.310 That represents the monopoly on violence and my 01:19:24.070 --> 01:19:26.850 My thesis at this point, uh, I I 01:19:27.530 --> 01:19:33.470 In the last couple of days, I wrote an uh an amendment to the constitution of the united states to kind of fix the problems 01:19:33.470 --> 01:19:34.450 that we have right now 01:19:35.310 --> 01:19:38.570 If I might not be so bold, but um 01:19:38.870 --> 01:19:44.690 But uh, it it it occurred to me that uh, we we talk about money being the thing that controls 01:19:45.410 --> 01:19:49.570 uh the world and uh, e michael jones makes a great, uh 01:19:50.150 --> 01:19:53.430 argument in his book baron metal that if you don't have a moral 01:19:54.170 --> 01:19:54.730 uh 01:19:56.170 --> 01:19:59.910 Money system it doesn't really matter what kind of money system you have 01:20:00.470 --> 01:20:04.570 Because you're going to wind up with uh an oligarchy or a totalitarian 01:20:05.290 --> 01:20:10.410 Government, um, if you don't have morals attached attached to it. And and so I made an attempt 01:20:10.410 --> 01:20:12.330 An amoral way of 01:20:12.330 --> 01:20:18.450 In instilling morality into the constitution of the united states. Oh tell me your solution 01:20:19.130 --> 01:20:23.670 um, well, um the the so my my thesis is that 01:20:24.170 --> 01:20:25.450 um, there's two things 01:20:26.130 --> 01:20:26.730 uh 01:20:27.630 --> 01:20:31.710 That the uh oligarchy uses in order to control us 01:20:32.270 --> 01:20:35.490 One is a monopoly on violence people will say money 01:20:35.490 --> 01:20:41.770 But I think it's a monopoly on violence and epistemology and I think that money is a form of epistemology 01:20:41.770 --> 01:20:44.530 That is getting people to believe that 01:20:44.530 --> 01:20:51.190 Gold is worth this or silver is worth that or a dollar or a pound is worth this. This is all magic, right? 01:20:51.270 --> 01:20:52.870 This is all epistemological magic 01:20:53.630 --> 01:21:00.030 And so you have to go you have to go to the core you have to go to the root of what the problem is and so 01:21:00.510 --> 01:21:07.790 Uh, the problem with the constitution of the united states of america is there's two major problems with it 01:21:07.790 --> 01:21:10.250 One is that it doesn't address 01:21:10.830 --> 01:21:11.330 transparency 01:21:11.330 --> 01:21:14.410 And it doesn't address 01:21:15.450 --> 01:21:16.890 Uh accountability 01:21:18.110 --> 01:21:22.690 Uh, uh in in a way that is satisfactory to 01:21:22.690 --> 01:21:23.610 uh 01:21:23.610 --> 01:21:27.850 Uh to the ideals of a democratic republic 01:21:27.850 --> 01:21:33.350 And so um going back to the control grid that melania trump was kicking off in the un 01:21:33.950 --> 01:21:36.330 Where they want to put in this, uh 01:21:36.330 --> 01:21:39.850 This they want to put in this blockchain based 01:21:40.730 --> 01:21:46.990 management and control system to control every human being on the planet every dollar that we spend every 01:21:47.690 --> 01:21:51.710 Uh, uh calorie that we eat every calorie that we expend 01:21:51.710 --> 01:21:53.930 They want to be able to control all of that 01:21:54.510 --> 01:21:55.630 And I said great 01:21:56.510 --> 01:22:00.730 Okay, let's let's turn this around and point it at the oligarchs, too 01:22:01.170 --> 01:22:02.570 Because there's two things 01:22:03.230 --> 01:22:08.310 Uh, uh that are missing right now in all constitutions all 01:22:08.890 --> 01:22:10.970 I don't care what country you're in. Okay 01:22:11.630 --> 01:22:13.810 transparency and accountability blockchain 01:22:14.370 --> 01:22:16.110 would be the ultimate 01:22:16.750 --> 01:22:20.410 technology for determining who owns what 01:22:21.090 --> 01:22:23.650 Meaning who owns what share of stock? 01:22:24.470 --> 01:22:29.470 Who owns the control of the united states federal reserve or the bank of england? 01:22:29.750 --> 01:22:30.730 I'd love to know 01:22:31.510 --> 01:22:40.690 Yeah, I think everyone would love to know okay, and the thing about blockchain is that you could use it to pierce the veil of things like 01:22:41.310 --> 01:22:42.230 holding companies 01:22:43.210 --> 01:22:47.010 and uh limited liability companies and shell companies 01:22:47.770 --> 01:22:48.930 uh cutouts 01:22:49.510 --> 01:22:51.410 You know front men 01:22:52.050 --> 01:22:56.230 Uh, because it would allow you to ultimately determine who owns what? 01:22:56.770 --> 01:22:58.290 uh on on 01:22:58.290 --> 01:23:01.250 On a great on a granular level 01:23:01.890 --> 01:23:05.210 um part of my uh amendment 01:23:05.930 --> 01:23:11.450 Uh create something called a a concert group because one of the ways that 01:23:12.030 --> 01:23:18.650 Uh, the oligarchs get around having people know who they are is they use things like black rock 01:23:18.930 --> 01:23:20.330 mechanisms like black rock 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:22.470 where they're accumulating 01:23:23.040 --> 01:23:24.470 the votes of a bunch of 01:23:25.040 --> 01:23:26.350 individual people or 01:23:27.220 --> 01:23:27.970 they're creating 01:23:28.750 --> 01:23:30.290 uh jeffrey eppstein 01:23:30.290 --> 01:23:35.970 uh inspired groups where you've got four or five different people who seem unrelated 01:23:36.580 --> 01:23:43.330 Right who are all putting money in or controlling the board of directors of a certain company in order to move that company into a 01:23:43.330 --> 01:23:46.370 A specific direction, so I call those things concert groups 01:23:46.850 --> 01:23:52.230 These things are algorithmically trivial to be able to determine if 01:23:52.810 --> 01:23:58.310 You've got if you're tracking all of the ownership stakes in all of the corporations and foundations 01:23:58.850 --> 01:23:59.870 public and private 01:24:00.350 --> 01:24:04.390 okay, if you're tracking all of that stuff with blockchain then 01:24:05.010 --> 01:24:06.090 uh, then 01:24:07.590 --> 01:24:09.770 insinuating uh coordination 01:24:10.450 --> 01:24:12.990 Becomes a really kind of trivial programmatic 01:24:13.530 --> 01:24:13.870 uh 01:24:14.970 --> 01:24:15.910 Problem to solve 01:24:17.950 --> 01:24:23.730 Yeah, it's it's not very hard. Okay. Um, it's really gonna happen peter this this thing 01:24:23.730 --> 01:24:29.090 It's it's the same technology that you would use for amazon to determine 01:24:29.090 --> 01:24:32.430 If you were looking at this product that you might like that product 01:24:33.050 --> 01:24:35.490 Okay, it's it's called collaborative filtering 01:24:36.090 --> 01:24:43.110 Okay, so if you apply collaborative filtering to insider trading, you're going to be able to find the insider traders like that 01:24:43.730 --> 01:24:44.090 Okay 01:24:44.930 --> 01:24:51.610 You can replace all you can replace all of those investigators at the security and exchange commission with an algorithm. Okay 01:24:52.370 --> 01:24:52.790 um 01:24:53.450 --> 01:24:58.130 So the second part is uh, the second part is, uh 01:25:00.950 --> 01:25:01.590 Uh 01:25:03.050 --> 01:25:06.750 What did I say I I I I I have the idea in my head an accountability 01:25:07.790 --> 01:25:08.370 accountability 01:25:09.210 --> 01:25:13.430 um, and so the idea is is that um, you could also put 01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:17.390 The promises that politicians make on the blockchain 01:25:19.230 --> 01:25:25.870 Okay, and uh, you could have a stochastic election stochastic is a just a uh 01:25:25.870 --> 01:25:32.790 A computer term for random because it turns out that computers are actually really bad at doing random numbers 01:25:33.410 --> 01:25:36.730 um, they they they they're so ordered 01:25:37.390 --> 01:25:42.570 That randomness is anathema to them and they have a problem. So you have so, uh 01:25:42.570 --> 01:25:48.750 They're there are companies that like do encryption keys and stuff and the way that they come up with the randomness is that they have a 01:25:48.750 --> 01:25:50.770 A wall of lava lamps 01:25:51.490 --> 01:25:53.310 Right and they've got a camera 01:25:53.310 --> 01:26:01.210 They have cameras aimed at the lava lamps that are measuring the pixels and this is the way that they come up with random number generators is by 01:26:01.730 --> 01:26:08.510 Uh, analyzing the the the the wax floating in the hot water. So so this is called stochastic 01:26:09.100 --> 01:26:14.110 So there's a stochastic election and we can come up with the parameters for a stochastic election 01:26:14.110 --> 01:26:20.110 but the the thing about um, uh politicians is that if you give them a calendar like a 01:26:20.110 --> 01:26:20.450 uh 01:26:21.050 --> 01:26:22.050 A um 01:26:22.050 --> 01:26:27.850 The way that we do it in the united states is that we have a election every four years or every two years 01:26:27.850 --> 01:26:32.390 The way that you do it in the uk is that uh, if the government can't come to a decision 01:26:32.390 --> 01:26:34.290 Then the prime minister can have an election 01:26:34.910 --> 01:26:41.390 Um in in my frame, you'd have a stochastic election series where people would be only asked one question 01:26:41.390 --> 01:26:43.590 Which is did the prom did the? 01:26:44.390 --> 01:26:46.550 uh, politicians should keep their promise or no 01:26:47.550 --> 01:26:48.550 um, and 01:26:48.550 --> 01:26:52.190 Uh, I I propose an incredibly draconian 01:26:52.790 --> 01:26:57.930 solution that's based on something that uh, palmer lucky who's somebody that i've met and talked to before 01:26:57.930 --> 01:26:59.110 I think his picture 01:26:59.750 --> 01:27:05.830 Uh came up with which is uh, he came up with a vr helmet that has uh three explosive charges in it 01:27:05.830 --> 01:27:09.630 So if you get killed in a video game, you actually get killed in real life 01:27:11.070 --> 01:27:17.330 So I was thinking well, um, isn't that the appropriate crown because again in my semiotic analysis 01:27:17.330 --> 01:27:22.750 You've got the the the crown of the king of england charles. What does that crown mean? 01:27:23.450 --> 01:27:23.850 right 01:27:24.370 --> 01:27:27.710 Well in the inside it's got a fridging cap 01:27:28.170 --> 01:27:29.870 the inside of the 01:27:30.550 --> 01:27:36.530 Of the crown is a cap and it's a fridging cap and again this goes back to the cults 01:27:36.530 --> 01:27:42.030 the the finnish and cults okay fridges actually in anatolia anatolia is 01:27:42.690 --> 01:27:43.170 um 01:27:43.790 --> 01:27:45.230 You know next to the levant 01:27:45.230 --> 01:27:51.230 And so you've got uh, and and by the way, I think that a fridging cap which is the the 01:27:51.230 --> 01:27:53.870 It's the french cap and the french revolution 01:27:54.470 --> 01:28:00.090 It's on the seal of the senate of the united states of america and the seal of the united states army 01:28:00.090 --> 01:28:02.510 it's on the seals of uh 01:28:03.470 --> 01:28:07.350 Dozens of american states and dozens of countries 01:28:08.610 --> 01:28:14.350 And so you've got this fridging cap. I I think that the fridging cap is is is a foreskin 01:28:15.230 --> 01:28:16.170 I think it is the 01:28:17.970 --> 01:28:21.850 Okay, okay, which takes us back to the old testament. Why are they always? 01:28:22.690 --> 01:28:28.230 Circumcising people like, you know, what what is that all about right? What is castration all about? 01:28:28.390 --> 01:28:32.470 What is circumcision all about but anyway, you've got these fridging caps right so 01:28:33.070 --> 01:28:39.250 The the king so crowns royal crowns european crowns have a fridging cap inside a golden cage 01:28:39.250 --> 01:28:42.370 What does that represent? Well the golden cage is the oligarchy 01:28:42.970 --> 01:28:43.950 right because 01:28:44.470 --> 01:28:44.830 what 01:28:45.850 --> 01:28:52.050 King james II that the stewards believed that they served in under the divine right of kings 01:28:52.050 --> 01:28:56.410 They believed that it was god's will that they were royal that they were kings, right? 01:28:57.090 --> 01:28:57.850 after the 01:28:58.490 --> 01:28:59.590 glorious revolution 01:29:00.510 --> 01:29:03.270 um the uh the monarchy 01:29:04.010 --> 01:29:11.350 uh became subject to the oligarchy and that the the king serves at the pleasure of the oligarchy and so 01:29:11.350 --> 01:29:12.610 um the 01:29:13.070 --> 01:29:20.870 The fridging cap represents liberty. What does liberty mean? Liberty means freedom that's been bestowed on you 01:29:20.870 --> 01:29:25.950 Okay, it's been if you ask 99 of americans 01:29:25.950 --> 01:29:27.190 I don't know about great britain 01:29:27.190 --> 01:29:31.730 But if you ask 99 of americans what the difference between the word liberty and the word freedom is 01:29:31.730 --> 01:29:33.890 They can't tell you the difference between the word 01:29:33.890 --> 01:29:37.650 They don't know the difference between the word when I started studying this 01:29:37.650 --> 01:29:40.310 I didn't know the difference between liberty and freedom 01:29:40.310 --> 01:29:44.990 Liberty is freedom that someone bestows on you if you are a slave owner 01:29:45.530 --> 01:29:48.450 And you free your slave you give them this cap 01:29:49.150 --> 01:29:51.690 And the cap says this person's a free person 01:29:51.690 --> 01:29:58.270 They've been bestowed their freedom by the empire. Okay, so charles has a fridging cap 01:29:58.910 --> 01:29:59.470 Okay 01:30:00.250 --> 01:30:07.310 In his crown and then it's got a golden cage on it. That's what the rest of the crown is. This is peter duke's interpretation 01:30:07.310 --> 01:30:13.330 All right, so what does that mean? It means that charles serves at the 01:30:13.330 --> 01:30:21.710 Uh at the pleasure of the crown corporation, which is a city of lending corporation that was put together by livery companies 01:30:22.370 --> 01:30:26.690 Um, I think it's interesting that the first livery company is called the the mercers 01:30:27.490 --> 01:30:33.030 And that some of the biggest influences in american elections lately have been the mercers 01:30:34.330 --> 01:30:35.050 Um 01:30:36.090 --> 01:30:39.890 They they were certainly taking taking care of breitbart for a while 01:30:40.450 --> 01:30:40.810 um 01:30:41.610 --> 01:30:45.710 Um, and so again words words have meanings. They mean things, right? 01:30:46.390 --> 01:30:47.610 and so um 01:30:48.510 --> 01:30:51.430 And so the the crown is actually 01:30:51.990 --> 01:30:54.470 Uh a fridging cap inside a golden cage 01:30:54.470 --> 01:30:58.410 So this is a perfect metaphor for the way that the windsors 01:30:58.990 --> 01:31:02.490 Uh their position in in great britain 01:31:02.490 --> 01:31:03.350 they are 01:31:03.350 --> 01:31:12.470 Uh, they are freed slaves who serve at the liberty their their liberty has been bestowed on them by the oligarchy that is the 01:31:13.130 --> 01:31:14.790 city of lending crown corporation 01:31:15.990 --> 01:31:16.510 um 01:31:17.070 --> 01:31:19.430 That's kind of my jaded one-sided bias 01:31:20.110 --> 01:31:21.490 Take at it. Yeah 01:31:22.290 --> 01:31:24.830 I'll buy that for for dollar. I mean 01:31:26.050 --> 01:31:29.490 Or a pound or a pound. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's 01:31:29.990 --> 01:31:31.770 In for a penny in for a pound, right? 01:31:32.550 --> 01:31:34.570 Yeah, um 01:31:36.970 --> 01:31:37.990 There was a line 01:31:39.290 --> 01:31:40.810 Dispiriting and at the same time 01:31:41.990 --> 01:31:44.110 kind of right and true and actually 01:31:44.990 --> 01:31:46.530 sort of, um 01:31:46.530 --> 01:31:51.650 Makes you more based I think where you say in your analysis of um 01:31:52.670 --> 01:31:57.830 In your sort of run up to your piece about epistemology and and and christ teaching 01:31:58.350 --> 01:32:00.450 You say that the two questions 01:32:01.050 --> 01:32:02.710 People who are awake 01:32:03.450 --> 01:32:04.770 tend to ask is 01:32:06.530 --> 01:32:07.290 Where can like 01:32:07.950 --> 01:32:13.010 Where can I go? Where can I go and how can I save my stuff? Yeah? Yeah, and 01:32:13.010 --> 01:32:18.390 And jesus, you know somebody came to jesus and asked the same question and he said give away all your stuff 01:32:19.970 --> 01:32:24.750 And and that's why I kind of look at my uh my losing all my stuff in the palisades fire is a blessing 01:32:25.670 --> 01:32:30.610 Because I I I kind of had it done for me, you know, I got rid all of my stuff disappeared 01:32:31.130 --> 01:32:34.850 Uh, and then I had to deal with uh life on that on those terms 01:32:35.610 --> 01:32:43.190 I mean, obviously I had insurance so I could you know make up for that, but um those are the two questions and 01:32:43.190 --> 01:32:46.050 um, and I don't think that there is 01:32:46.550 --> 01:32:52.970 Any place that you can go? I mean my wife and I have gone through all of this like we drove around to different states and we 01:32:52.970 --> 01:32:59.970 we went to arizona nevada and and and we were looking at different places that we could live we have many friends who 01:32:59.970 --> 01:33:01.550 moved to uh 01:33:03.310 --> 01:33:04.870 Nashville, uh, we have 01:33:05.910 --> 01:33:11.590 Friends who are considering moving to cordilline, Idaho. I have a friend in cordilline, Idaho says don't move here 01:33:11.590 --> 01:33:14.090 It isn't you're not you're not really running 01:33:14.650 --> 01:33:20.430 And it isn't because she doesn't want them to move there because it's locals only it's that um, if you think that 01:33:20.430 --> 01:33:25.830 You're going to get away from it. Yeah by moving here, uh, then then that's not going to happen 01:33:25.830 --> 01:33:29.290 I need to close my blinds. Hang on one second. Oh, yeah, I was looking at that 01:33:29.830 --> 01:33:30.270 Yeah 01:33:36.980 --> 01:33:39.620 I was comparing the quality of the light 01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:46.180 The light in california at at 8 a.m. Or whatever time it is there now 01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:48.920 Yeah, and and in north hamptonshire 01:33:49.420 --> 01:33:49.860 in 01:33:51.340 --> 01:33:55.180 Are we they've allowed us to have some blue skies today, which is 01:33:55.180 --> 01:33:59.600 They give us these occasional treatlets, you know, yes, we're not going to give you cam trail 01:34:01.520 --> 01:34:03.940 Fog today you're going to get some blue 01:34:04.500 --> 01:34:07.060 Just show you what you what you're missing most of the time 01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:10.120 Well, I'm I'm living next to a navy base now 01:34:10.120 --> 01:34:14.380 Which is very strange for me because there's all this military action that goes on all the time 01:34:14.380 --> 01:34:19.620 There's hawker hunters from the 1950s that fly over my house all the time. I have no idea why 01:34:22.480 --> 01:34:22.880 I 01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:28.460 Think the good thing about living you're living next to a naval base is when it all kicks off 01:34:29.320 --> 01:34:30.220 You're going to be 01:34:32.480 --> 01:34:35.120 You're going to have sort of people who might be able to 01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:38.380 I don't know 01:34:38.380 --> 01:34:43.300 I think you're right. I I I want to believe that I want to believe that I had one 01:34:43.300 --> 01:34:43.700 One 01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:45.440 catastrophic 01:34:46.700 --> 01:34:50.400 Without being hyperbolic one catastrophic event in my life already 01:34:51.060 --> 01:34:51.520 I 01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:58.720 Although it was funny because my wife and I we moved into so we're about 40 miles north of los angeles now 01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:05.140 And we found this lovely little apartment and it's on the beach and we got a dog and he's walking around here someplace 01:35:05.860 --> 01:35:06.140 and 01:35:07.640 --> 01:35:12.700 We were we we had we had no furniture everything that we owned like fit in the truck 01:35:12.700 --> 01:35:16.460 So we ordered a bunch of furniture, but it was going to take a few days to get here 01:35:16.460 --> 01:35:21.960 So we got an air mattress and so we're living in this apartment. We've got no furniture and we're sleeping on an air mattress 01:35:22.520 --> 01:35:22.900 and 01:35:22.900 --> 01:35:25.880 Uh, and we get a tsunami warning 01:35:28.580 --> 01:35:34.120 Yeah, but you can float off on the air mattress, right? Right exactly. That was the right piece of furniture to happen 01:35:34.120 --> 01:35:39.220 Yeah, exactly. But uh, it was it was funny because uh, one of my my 01:35:40.280 --> 01:35:40.660 when 01:35:41.240 --> 01:35:47.300 When the palisades fire happened, um, I I lived in the I lived in the sandmonic mountains my whole life 01:35:47.300 --> 01:35:54.120 And I was not expecting that the los angeles fire department would stand down and not show up because but that's exactly what happened 01:35:54.660 --> 01:35:57.700 Okay, so regardless of whether or not I think it was arson 01:35:57.700 --> 01:36:01.460 There there are very very few people who think that it's arson 01:36:02.140 --> 01:36:07.380 But I think that it was arson. I think it was arson on january 1st. I think it was arson on january 7th 01:36:08.080 --> 01:36:09.540 uh, uh, both times 01:36:10.060 --> 01:36:16.040 And I I lay out in several articles on my website exactly why I think that happened 01:36:16.040 --> 01:36:21.900 But for for the for this story, I didn't I I basically ignored all the evacuation warnings 01:36:21.900 --> 01:36:23.400 And I was working on a video 01:36:23.400 --> 01:36:30.060 I shot video of the fire of the superscoopers the canadian superscoopers that were coming in and I was working on the video 01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:36.320 And it wasn't until about five o'clock that I went outside and looked around and everybody was gone 01:36:36.320 --> 01:36:39.120 And noticed that there were no fire trucks 01:36:40.160 --> 01:36:44.280 There was no fire engines in my neighborhood none zero 01:36:45.300 --> 01:36:46.420 And I thought 01:36:47.380 --> 01:36:48.380 That's not good 01:36:49.100 --> 01:36:49.580 Yeah 01:36:50.460 --> 01:36:51.900 That that's not good 01:36:52.540 --> 01:36:57.200 You know and at that point that's when I thought okay. We better get the hell out of here 01:36:57.700 --> 01:36:59.660 um, and so, uh 01:37:00.220 --> 01:37:06.560 Uh, the nice thing I like about where I live now is that I that the when something happens the fire trucks show up 01:37:07.020 --> 01:37:08.320 We take that for granted 01:37:08.910 --> 01:37:15.320 We you know, it's something that I took for granted my entire life that when there's a fire the fire department comes 01:37:16.070 --> 01:37:19.260 Well, because we've been trained to there was a character called fireman sam 01:37:20.030 --> 01:37:23.480 a children's children on children's tv and fireman sam 01:37:24.330 --> 01:37:26.380 Goes and rescues 01:37:26.380 --> 01:37:30.260 Cats stuck in trees and when your house burns down he comes in 01:37:31.090 --> 01:37:34.020 Right the fire department goes up. Yeah. Yeah 01:37:34.020 --> 01:37:39.080 Yeah, and and you know, there were hundreds of fire trucks there 01:37:39.080 --> 01:37:45.620 But they were most of them were being platooned down on on the pacific coast highway in the beach parking lots 01:37:46.320 --> 01:37:48.220 Uh, and they weren't fighting the fires 01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:49.520 um 01:37:50.260 --> 01:37:54.300 And there's all kinds of stories about why that happened. I don't think it really matters at this point 01:37:54.820 --> 01:37:57.420 What the story is? I I think that it was planned 01:37:58.040 --> 01:38:00.600 Uh, it was planned it again like gaza 01:38:01.320 --> 01:38:02.040 was planned 01:38:02.620 --> 01:38:06.660 Uh, there's no you can't look at gaza and say they didn't plan to do this 01:38:08.860 --> 01:38:12.300 No, they they I think their story bored it, don't they 01:38:12.920 --> 01:38:15.460 They storyboard it and then they they make the movie 01:38:16.120 --> 01:38:18.780 Well, not only is story they wore game it 01:38:18.780 --> 01:38:26.300 They yeah, you know, they they again, I was a rand kid my mom worked at rand and I grew up playing these games 01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:31.280 Um, you know, which is another kind of thread of things that I I work on 01:38:31.280 --> 01:38:35.620 It's funny, uh, I wrote a whole series of articles, uh about mark brunette 01:38:36.310 --> 01:38:37.720 and game theory because 01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:39.300 again 01:38:40.220 --> 01:38:46.720 Random happenstance jeff probst was I was watching survivor one night jeff probst was talking about how survivor is based on 01:38:47.350 --> 01:38:49.580 john nash's non cooperative game theory 01:38:50.220 --> 01:38:56.180 um, and then I was uh, I I spent a week with a good friend of mine, matthew crawford at this, uh 01:38:56.180 --> 01:38:57.420 friend of ours house in 01:38:58.060 --> 01:39:03.080 in nevada, and we were talking about game theory and we were talking about 01:39:03.820 --> 01:39:04.200 uh 01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:07.080 Two television shows in particular survivor 01:39:07.780 --> 01:39:10.980 Uh, which is in its almost 50th season or something now 01:39:11.580 --> 01:39:14.820 um, and the apprentice which are both 01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:19.280 Uh mark brunette shows mark brunette is 01:39:19.280 --> 01:39:20.640 British military 01:39:21.320 --> 01:39:23.240 These bridges is the military 01:39:23.720 --> 01:39:26.580 Yeah, yeah, he's born in london served in the falcons 01:39:26.580 --> 01:39:28.320 uh moved to 01:39:29.260 --> 01:39:34.720 Uh, los angeles and the story about him is that he was a nanny in beverly hills 01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:38.740 Yes, and then he was selling t-shirts on venice boardwalk 01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:42.580 And then he became a showrunner on the biggest show on television 01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:50.120 It's it it's it. It's an interesting, uh, it's an interesting, uh trajectory. Yeah, it is 01:39:50.900 --> 01:39:52.100 It is so 01:39:52.740 --> 01:39:55.740 But the but these shows are based on non cooperative game theory 01:39:56.260 --> 01:40:00.940 Is that the same by the way is is game theory different from non cooperative game theory? 01:40:01.180 --> 01:40:06.600 It was different for that john von neumann came up with the original, uh game theory, right? 01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:12.580 Uh, which came up with things like uh prisoners dilemma. Yeah, and things like that. It's something that uh, the rand corporation 01:40:13.120 --> 01:40:15.640 Uh specialized in and that's why my 01:40:16.260 --> 01:40:22.080 Uh indoctrination when I was 10 or 11 years old by a rand mathematician who lived next door to me 01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:24.540 Uh by happenstance 01:40:25.300 --> 01:40:32.900 Uh was inch. I was introduced to all of this kind of uh, uh, it's basically it's abstract thinking what you're doing is you're 01:40:32.900 --> 01:40:35.160 Taking real life 01:40:35.700 --> 01:40:39.340 Situations and you're figuring out what the rules would be 01:40:39.780 --> 01:40:47.160 And what the pieces would be for creating an abstraction of this real world event so that you can play it 01:40:47.160 --> 01:40:51.000 So you can see what the different results would be 01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:56.280 Um, uh, so that's the essence of game theory is that how do you take? 01:40:56.920 --> 01:41:04.080 Real life situations and then put them into a a framework that would allow you to test it 01:41:04.080 --> 01:41:10.460 Right. It's all about testing the situation. And so john nash and again peter duke's 01:41:11.040 --> 01:41:11.380 first 01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:13.440 uh 01:41:14.300 --> 01:41:20.420 I can't remember which leading one of my leading indicators on epistemological warfare is that if you've got 01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:22.300 um, uh 01:41:23.200 --> 01:41:29.960 Trans media saturation on a particular idea. It means that it's important to the oligarchy. Okay, so 01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:31.200 um 01:41:31.780 --> 01:41:38.220 John nash's non cooperative game theory got made into a movie with russell crow and jennifer connelly by 01:41:38.780 --> 01:41:41.820 by uh ron howard and brian grazier 01:41:42.480 --> 01:41:45.040 ron howard always gets the kind of the 01:41:45.780 --> 01:41:51.420 I mean, he's considered a reliable set of hands to to make a peter burger peter burg too 01:41:51.420 --> 01:41:54.600 I there's a few of them out there who are 01:41:55.300 --> 01:41:58.740 Tapped, you know, yeah, um, and I used to know peter burg 01:41:58.740 --> 01:42:02.220 I used to hang out with peter burg back in the day when he was an when he was an actor 01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:05.960 um, but uh, the idea is is that um, 01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:07.400 uh 01:42:08.560 --> 01:42:13.780 Why do they make a movie about non cooperative game theory if non cooperative game theory isn't an important 01:42:13.780 --> 01:42:15.340 concept for them 01:42:15.340 --> 01:42:22.380 Uh, why do they use non cooperative game theory to create the two biggest television shows in history? 01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:24.260 A survivor in the apprentice 01:42:25.040 --> 01:42:29.100 If it isn't really important to them and then you have to understand then you have to ask yourself the question 01:42:29.100 --> 01:42:31.060 Well, why do they do that? And so I've written 01:42:31.700 --> 01:42:33.580 articles on why I thought that 01:42:34.180 --> 01:42:37.560 survivor was important because survivor basically shows you 01:42:38.180 --> 01:42:39.860 What can happen in an ultimate? 01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:42.720 uh, democracy because the 01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:48.120 The winner of that game is determined by um, a republic of the failed 01:42:48.700 --> 01:42:53.280 You know of the people who who who didn't make it to the end, right? 01:42:53.940 --> 01:42:55.560 and uh 01:42:55.560 --> 01:42:59.100 The apprentice is just a model for an ideal 01:42:59.700 --> 01:43:02.940 uh, courtesy arvin styled totalitarian dictatorship 01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:04.320 um 01:43:04.960 --> 01:43:07.040 And and and and so my trump 01:43:07.980 --> 01:43:10.820 Right and it right headed by trump who accidentally 01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:18.300 Who's also in the who's also in the world wrestling federation, uh hall of fame for something called k-fabe 01:43:19.400 --> 01:43:19.900 um 01:43:20.510 --> 01:43:21.280 Which led me 01:43:21.280 --> 01:43:25.700 Which led me to a different kind of game because I was in the game business for a while 01:43:25.700 --> 01:43:28.040 I worked for steven spielberg at a place called the 01:43:28.620 --> 01:43:29.800 sega game works 01:43:30.420 --> 01:43:36.160 And then I tried to stay involved in kind of the leading edge of I wasn't really interested in the day-to-day 01:43:36.160 --> 01:43:39.580 kind of game stuff, but I was really interested in the um 01:43:41.100 --> 01:43:46.940 Cutting edge and there was this kind of game that was called a uh alternate reality game 01:43:47.740 --> 01:43:51.260 that uh, was kind of big in the late uh 01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:55.520 1990s and it occurred to me that 01:43:56.180 --> 01:43:57.180 What's going on? 01:43:57.760 --> 01:44:02.980 Uh in the new cycle right now specifically what made me start thinking about it was charlie the charlie kerkmurder 01:44:03.440 --> 01:44:04.940 is that uh 01:44:05.500 --> 01:44:10.180 An alternate reality game is where you create something called a rabbit hole 01:44:10.820 --> 01:44:11.940 in the real world 01:44:12.480 --> 01:44:15.820 Right, and then you start dripping out 01:44:15.820 --> 01:44:20.680 Um information in in this game theory. It's called they're called tix 01:44:21.440 --> 01:44:23.360 um as a way to control 01:44:24.080 --> 01:44:25.700 uh audience engagement 01:44:26.380 --> 01:44:30.280 And the thing is about the tix is that they don't 01:44:30.280 --> 01:44:34.820 Uh, no one they're they're so complicated and kind of broad scope 01:44:35.320 --> 01:44:38.820 That one person cannot solve the problem by themselves 01:44:38.820 --> 01:44:42.380 They need a bunch of other people to to solve the problems 01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:47.460 And so if you start to take a look at the the charlie kerk event 01:44:47.940 --> 01:44:48.820 in total 01:44:49.620 --> 01:44:54.300 Like not just the kanda sowing's part not just the e and carol part not just the 01:44:54.300 --> 01:44:58.500 Cache patel part not you know, if you take the whole thing in total 01:44:59.300 --> 01:45:02.720 Okay, it looks like an alternate reality game to me 01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:07.700 It looks like something and and and the best way to kind of think about that would be like the truman show 01:45:08.340 --> 01:45:13.880 There's the character that uh ed harris plays who's kind of like the director of the show 01:45:14.580 --> 01:45:18.740 um, and it is it feels to me like the charlie kerk 01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:26.000 Murder is an arc. It's an alternate reality game that's being played and that doesn't mean that real people don't get killed 01:45:26.560 --> 01:45:28.980 Um, but it doesn't mean that they did either 01:45:29.780 --> 01:45:31.220 No, it doesn't either, you know 01:45:31.770 --> 01:45:32.040 No 01:45:32.040 --> 01:45:39.740 And and the purpose so obviously that whole narrative was something that was very important for them to put out 01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:45.600 Yes, and so then and again the epistemological frame on that is okay 01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:50.020 Well, what is the benefit of the charlie kerk murder story? Yeah, right? 01:45:50.760 --> 01:45:51.040 um 01:45:51.040 --> 01:45:57.100 You because you could spend the rest of your life people have spent their entire lives trying to figure out who killed jfk 01:45:57.100 --> 01:45:59.320 Right, they have right 01:45:59.320 --> 01:46:02.000 So people can do that with charlie kerk 01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:03.740 But the important part is 01:46:04.480 --> 01:46:07.900 What what does the charlie kerk murder story create? 01:46:08.040 --> 01:46:13.640 What are what are the circumstances that are different after charlie kerk is murdered than 01:46:14.220 --> 01:46:15.880 before charlie kerk was murdered? 01:46:16.700 --> 01:46:17.120 um 01:46:17.680 --> 01:46:19.420 On a kind of meta level. Yeah 01:46:20.200 --> 01:46:23.020 And the answer is that the short answer 01:46:23.720 --> 01:46:28.300 Well, I mean, I do think that I do think that the people who think that he was um 01:46:28.300 --> 01:46:29.260 an existential 01:46:30.220 --> 01:46:32.980 threat to the narrative of 01:46:33.780 --> 01:46:37.480 uh, the narrative control that was required in order to 01:46:38.140 --> 01:46:38.720 facilitate 01:46:38.720 --> 01:46:41.140 the completion of 01:46:42.220 --> 01:46:42.620 the 01:46:44.300 --> 01:46:48.320 Mid-east plan which was to take syria and then in iran 01:46:49.380 --> 01:46:52.060 Wesley clark famously said that they had plans in 01:46:52.940 --> 01:46:55.580 2000 to take all seven of those countries that 01:46:56.460 --> 01:47:01.020 Obviously that that that was going to go forward charlie kerk was a problem 01:47:01.820 --> 01:47:02.140 uh 01:47:02.860 --> 01:47:05.220 Because he was going to create enough 01:47:06.100 --> 01:47:12.460 Public sentiment that it would become very difficult for them to get away with it. I think it's still I mean, I think that trump was 01:47:13.500 --> 01:47:16.640 Polling at something like 17 percent approval last week 01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:18.480 Oh, right 01:47:18.480 --> 01:47:21.280 you know, uh, uh, so 01:47:21.280 --> 01:47:22.020 uh 01:47:22.620 --> 01:47:25.980 If charlie kerk was still alive, it would probably be a three percent 01:47:28.300 --> 01:47:35.500 Right, but how how do you accommodate me into this particular schemata because I I think he's still alive 01:47:35.500 --> 01:47:39.700 And I think it was the whole thing was fake. Oh, well, that's fine. It doesn't matter 01:47:40.640 --> 01:47:45.640 Yeah, he may be out sitting on a yeah, but but maybe sitting on a beach in matagascar 01:47:45.640 --> 01:47:49.640 Do you mean that he was there as a warning to people to question the narrative or you know 01:47:49.640 --> 01:47:52.340 You say these things you're going to die or what? 01:47:58.140 --> 01:48:03.280 Because surely surely if if the idea of of the assassination was to 01:48:03.900 --> 01:48:07.360 Well, the alleged assassination was to derail opposition to 01:48:07.940 --> 01:48:12.300 Uh, the plans to kind of take iran and syria and so on 01:48:12.760 --> 01:48:13.340 um 01:48:14.300 --> 01:48:19.620 Surely would have already inflamed that particular base and made the more determined than ever to 01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:21.680 You know the martin charlie and his 01:48:24.220 --> 01:48:27.760 I you know that I think that a lot of times these things are tests 01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:32.780 So for example, um, and I didn't come up with this idea somebody on the internet came up with it 01:48:32.780 --> 01:48:37.440 It resonated with me that co vid was a was not really 01:48:37.440 --> 01:48:44.360 Uh, well, they they talk about goal stacking when the oligarchs do these things when they execute something like like, uh 01:48:45.420 --> 01:48:48.540 Like co vid, uh, they have multiple goals that they have 01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:54.300 That they want to try to test right? Uh, um, and so 01:48:54.840 --> 01:48:59.420 Uh, the one of the things that I think that they were trying to test primarily was 01:48:59.960 --> 01:49:01.060 what is the 01:49:01.700 --> 01:49:07.400 Uh, loyalty of the infrastructure of the uh leadership infrastructure that they have in place globally 01:49:07.400 --> 01:49:13.200 So famously there were a bunch of presidents of uh, african countries. Yeah, like a fully 01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:16.140 Don't rest his soul. What a what a hero I 01:49:16.140 --> 01:49:20.060 I want before before I die. I want to see a 01:49:20.620 --> 01:49:23.360 statue erected to john maga fuli in 01:49:24.400 --> 01:49:27.360 Whatever the capital of of right holding a 01:49:28.420 --> 01:49:33.940 Holding a cornucopia and a swab, right? Yeah, exactly and uh 01:49:36.060 --> 01:49:39.080 Yeah, and uh, and then what was it a guava? 01:49:40.160 --> 01:49:43.340 Yeah, a guava and a swab, right? I think so. Yeah 01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:50.060 Yeah, again, but he was using he was using logos and crisis and prowess and and agape 01:49:50.620 --> 01:49:55.000 Right, he applied those things and uh, and he got crucified for it 01:49:55.660 --> 01:49:56.060 um 01:49:56.840 --> 01:49:57.540 but uh 01:49:58.320 --> 01:50:06.160 But what wound up happening? Uh, so I think that I think that co vid was a test of of of leadership and I think that 01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:10.960 The charlie kirk assassination. I think the fake butler assassination 01:50:11.580 --> 01:50:18.000 Uh, a lot of people don't uh, remember this but um, koby bryant died right before kovat started 01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:20.680 Or did he um, yeah 01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:25.740 Yeah, we see the one in the in the helicopter in the helicopter, right? 01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:32.340 And and if you follow michael hoffman, there's this ritual that they have which is the which is killing the king 01:50:33.660 --> 01:50:37.160 Arguably, uh, koby bryant was the king of basketball 01:50:37.920 --> 01:50:40.040 Right at the point that he died 01:50:40.680 --> 01:50:45.720 So um, so koby bryant and and the and the helicopter pilot was iranian 01:50:47.260 --> 01:50:48.220 uh, so 01:50:50.020 --> 01:50:51.120 That that always 01:50:52.420 --> 01:50:59.560 Felt very, uh ritualistic to me like I and in fact and in fact, I was friends with olly alexander at the time who was 01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:04.200 I'm still friends with him. I just haven't talked to him in a while. Um, and uh 01:51:04.760 --> 01:51:08.820 Uh, when I found out and koby died within a couple of miles before I lived again 01:51:08.820 --> 01:51:12.500 I live in this uh interesting part of the world and uh 01:51:13.130 --> 01:51:15.940 I called ali and I said something big is about to happen 01:51:16.640 --> 01:51:21.260 And he said he said why is that and I said because this feels like a ritual sacrifice to me 01:51:21.940 --> 01:51:22.800 and within 01:51:23.820 --> 01:51:26.560 Within a couple of weeks, uh kovat started 01:51:27.200 --> 01:51:31.320 Is this the occult book collector guy that it was a different? Uh 01:51:32.020 --> 01:51:33.300 No, this is uh 01:51:33.300 --> 01:51:40.100 No, that that's pat moise. You know, this is uh olly alexander was the guy who wreck who organized stop the steal 01:51:40.840 --> 01:51:41.360 um 01:51:42.020 --> 01:51:46.140 Uh, but I'm there's a there's a writer that I who I follow 01:51:46.140 --> 01:51:51.140 I've I've read practically everything that he's written. He's got a great substack. His name is michael hoffman 01:51:51.140 --> 01:51:57.920 Yeah, um, and he wrote a book, uh, 20 years ago called secret societies and psychological warfare 01:51:58.540 --> 01:51:59.060 um 01:51:59.620 --> 01:52:02.500 and uh, and he talks about uh and 01:52:03.380 --> 01:52:07.420 His mentor was a guy named james shelby downard 01:52:08.180 --> 01:52:12.200 Uh, and they wrote a book together called king kill 33 01:52:12.900 --> 01:52:19.460 Uh, and this is where uh, shall james shelby downard was talking about like how these rituals work 01:52:19.460 --> 01:52:23.120 You know, what's the blocking and tackling? What is it that these people actually do? 01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:28.440 um, and so killing a king like killing john f kennedy 01:52:29.220 --> 01:52:35.880 Uh, it turns out that there's going going back to goal stacking. There's a lot of different reasons why you killed john f kennedy 01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:39.000 It's not just one reason. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I I I get that 01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:43.800 Yeah, so that's why they call it camelot so that they could make him king arthur 01:52:45.420 --> 01:52:50.660 Yeah, well, it's funny because you're saying that you're mentioning camelot because one of the rabbit holes that i've been going down 01:52:50.660 --> 01:52:52.960 the last couple of weeks and i'm going to talk to uh 01:52:53.460 --> 01:52:55.580 Mrs. Heritage history later 01:52:56.280 --> 01:52:57.560 And maybe this will come up 01:52:58.120 --> 01:53:01.840 Is that a great deal of british history has just been erased 01:53:02.580 --> 01:53:04.360 um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 01:53:05.280 --> 01:53:10.500 There's a huge amount of it. That's just been erased. Well, there's there's there's there's the wilson and blackit books 01:53:10.500 --> 01:53:13.700 wilson and blackit with these welsh amity historians 01:53:14.380 --> 01:53:18.940 Yeah, who realized that there were two king arthers two real king arthers 01:53:19.480 --> 01:53:22.300 Right, or maybe more than that. I think it might have been a whole 01:53:22.960 --> 01:53:25.540 Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah, what do we call wilson and 01:53:26.500 --> 01:53:27.680 wilson and black it 01:53:28.200 --> 01:53:28.640 Okay 01:53:29.140 --> 01:53:36.320 And they one of them died in a mysterious fire. I mean they were they were that they were inconvenient to the as happens 01:53:36.960 --> 01:53:39.520 It happens doesn't it it already does 01:53:40.440 --> 01:53:44.760 Yeah, i'm done. I'm not an original researcher. I'm done. I'm just a kind of 01:53:46.320 --> 01:53:48.960 I flutter around like some 01:53:49.780 --> 01:53:57.340 I was like, well, yeah, you know, I I don't think that doing the research is dangerous. I think becoming popular after the research 01:53:58.540 --> 01:54:01.740 Becoming popularizing your research becomes the dangerous part 01:54:02.400 --> 01:54:02.960 well 01:54:03.800 --> 01:54:06.220 I'm grateful to them because they they so 01:54:06.220 --> 01:54:11.620 They so constrain my traffic that i'm never in any danger of of reaching more than a 01:54:11.620 --> 01:54:13.500 fraction of my potential audience 01:54:14.080 --> 01:54:14.640 Ditto 01:54:15.440 --> 01:54:16.360 it's just like 01:54:17.540 --> 01:54:21.640 It's kind of Tarsam, but I suppose it's slightly less Tarsam than being killed 01:54:21.640 --> 01:54:27.200 I mean, yeah, exactly. And I'm and I'm guessing that if you know how substack has all of those 01:54:27.680 --> 01:54:32.980 Stats that they give you for how popular your article is might always do this and then they go 01:54:34.780 --> 01:54:37.560 Meanwhile that annoying person who writes these 01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:45.820 Clickbait, yeah, well, it's sort of informed jaunty clickbait like like lots of 01:54:46.340 --> 01:54:51.260 Here's an inch. Here's a subject that might interest you based on my and you think oh 01:54:52.200 --> 01:54:57.640 Yeah, you're you're nice, but you're from normie world and you're not you're not really dealing with any things that matter 01:54:58.500 --> 01:54:59.400 You're just talking 01:55:00.080 --> 01:55:02.140 You're just defining their power at dime 01:55:02.140 --> 01:55:09.640 Right. Well to me to me it all boils down to the definition between knowing and thinking there's lots of people who like to collect 01:55:09.640 --> 01:55:11.220 ideas like 01:55:11.220 --> 01:55:16.980 A seed catalog in I guess in in britain you call them bus spotters, right or train spotters 01:55:18.280 --> 01:55:21.260 Yeah, people who who who collect stuff? 01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:25.380 And want to be the expert in that stuff, right? 01:55:25.840 --> 01:55:28.540 As opposed to 01:55:29.340 --> 01:55:35.700 You know critical inquiry like I I look at you know jumping back to christianity for a second 01:55:36.270 --> 01:55:39.180 I look at that process of 01:55:39.900 --> 01:55:42.580 Taking logos putting it on the cross of discernment 01:55:42.580 --> 01:55:49.400 Practicing prowess and in the direction of agape when you complete all of that you're christened 01:55:49.400 --> 01:55:50.280 But what has happened? 01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:53.800 What has happened is that your old belief has died 01:55:54.420 --> 01:56:00.900 And become resurrected and reborn as a new belief something that you believed before the process started 01:56:01.740 --> 01:56:06.740 Isn't there and has been replaced by something else after the process is complete 01:56:07.480 --> 01:56:14.420 Well, this is an ongoing thing. This doesn't happen once. This is a a mindset, you know, yes 01:56:15.140 --> 01:56:18.200 Which which is a nominalization. I probably shouldn't call it a mindset 01:56:18.200 --> 01:56:19.960 I probably I should probably call it a mind 01:56:20.620 --> 01:56:24.440 Mindset isn't is a nominalization. It's a it's a process, right? 01:56:24.920 --> 01:56:28.560 That we use in order to be able to constantly grow and make 01:56:29.280 --> 01:56:36.240 Become more perfect, you know the the constitution is framed as a more perfect union and what jesus is 01:56:36.740 --> 01:56:42.980 Is is is giving you the handbook to do is to become a more perfect person 01:56:43.580 --> 01:56:44.380 Did you 01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:47.500 No reason why you should but I did I did this 01:56:48.100 --> 01:56:50.360 podcast the other day with sir eskenor 01:56:51.040 --> 01:56:51.300 who 01:56:52.320 --> 01:56:54.940 Who rather bummed me out by laying this 01:56:55.520 --> 01:56:57.580 Really bad trip version of jesus on me 01:56:58.360 --> 01:57:02.100 So I mean I had him on the podcast because sir eskenor is is clearly 01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:09.320 He's he's properly red pilled or indeed black pilled and he sees through all the conspiracies and stuff 01:57:09.940 --> 01:57:13.880 But he was saying he started off the podcast by saying well 01:57:14.500 --> 01:57:14.900 um 01:57:15.540 --> 01:57:21.880 I think it's even worse than you think. I think that what people like you and me and you peter are doing 01:57:22.840 --> 01:57:25.440 it's we we do we do it because 01:57:26.840 --> 01:57:29.340 They find it useful that we do this stuff 01:57:29.340 --> 01:57:35.440 They want us to do this stuff and it's all part of the transition from the kind of the world of satan to the world 01:57:35.440 --> 01:57:40.740 Sort of the the luciferian backlash, which is going to be the false light of the 01:57:41.260 --> 01:57:44.160 So we're meant to be putting all this horror stuff out there about 01:57:45.020 --> 01:57:46.780 about adrenaline chrome and 01:57:48.020 --> 01:57:50.480 I I think I think he's partially correct 01:57:50.480 --> 01:57:52.580 But part of the reason that I do write 01:57:53.460 --> 01:57:57.920 My you know, it's my motivation for writing the uh linguist or christianity 01:57:58.620 --> 01:58:03.640 Thing and it's also my motivation for putting it into as many different 01:58:03.640 --> 01:58:09.640 Um, uh formats as I can so for people who read I write it for people who listen 01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:15.640 I do a podcast for people who want to watch a video. I try to make a video. Um, and so, uh 01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:20.340 The reason I do that is because to his point 01:58:20.880 --> 01:58:25.040 If the only thing that you're doing is um, and I'm sorry my dog is 01:58:26.060 --> 01:58:32.080 Dropping a ball at my feet. Well, that's good. Well, I'm trying to talk about he's good loyal well trained dog. That's good 01:58:32.080 --> 01:58:37.080 Yes, quickly. Good boy. Good boy. Good boy. Stop it. Anyway, um 01:58:37.680 --> 01:58:41.160 the uh, uh, the point that I was trying to make is that uh, I 01:58:41.160 --> 01:58:43.140 People have accused me of being blackpilled 01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:49.480 Uh, because I'm figuring all of these things out, but the uh, or I think I think I'm figuring these things out 01:58:49.480 --> 01:58:54.800 um, and the and the issue is what do you do about it, right to your to 01:58:55.040 --> 01:59:00.840 Your other guests, uh concern and I think that that's uh, uh, part and parcel 01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:04.420 I think that part of the reason that I've really tried to figure out how to 01:59:05.040 --> 01:59:09.720 Uh, communicate my christian epistemology message in the in the format that I have 01:59:09.720 --> 01:59:14.320 Is because there is uh, there is good news 01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:20.360 Okay, the good news is that the only thing that is required in order to 01:59:21.220 --> 01:59:27.800 overturn the oligarchic control on the planet is to understand that we're in an epistemological war 01:59:28.620 --> 01:59:33.120 And that jesus gave us tools for overcoming the epistemological war 01:59:33.620 --> 01:59:41.640 Okay, and we all have it in us. The kingdom of god is in us. Okay. They can't take it away from us 01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:43.280 Okay, they can't take 01:59:43.920 --> 01:59:49.460 They can't take our ability to use logos crisis prowess and agape 01:59:49.460 --> 01:59:55.960 They can't take that away from us. We all have it. Okay. The only thing that we need in order to be able to 01:59:56.560 --> 02:00:00.100 Uh, utilize it is to realize that we do have it 02:00:00.100 --> 02:00:05.600 And this is like the lesson of the the wizard of oz when dorthy at the end of the wizard of oz 02:00:05.600 --> 02:00:11.080 The the the wizard says you've always had it all you have to do is click your heels three times and say there's no 02:00:11.080 --> 02:00:11.880 place like home 02:00:12.440 --> 02:00:14.220 Okay, that's the truth 02:00:14.220 --> 02:00:17.680 That that's that we all have the ability to do this 02:00:18.320 --> 02:00:20.700 But we have to be able to wake up 02:00:20.700 --> 02:00:25.860 To that idea, you know, the I guess buddha means to wake up, right? 02:00:26.840 --> 02:00:27.040 um 02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:34.000 I haven't researched that but somebody told me once that buddhism is to to be awakened, right? 02:00:35.020 --> 02:00:35.580 um 02:00:36.940 --> 02:00:40.140 Yeah, drop an enormous subject in at the end of the podcast 02:00:40.140 --> 02:00:45.240 Yeah, and that I don't know that that I that honestly, I don't know a lot about yeah 02:00:45.240 --> 02:00:52.540 I I have practiced zen though. I read zen in the bar book zen in the art of archery and I actually used that as a handbook to 02:00:53.000 --> 02:00:56.820 Uh quash my ego at one point. I won't die. Did it work? 02:00:57.720 --> 02:01:02.600 Yeah, it was great. It's great. I I didn't use archery though. I used I I used a batting cage 02:01:03.200 --> 02:01:08.000 Uh, so have you ever read harrigal? Uh zen in the art of archery? 02:01:08.540 --> 02:01:10.540 It's a short book. It's a very short book 02:01:10.540 --> 02:01:15.700 Basically, he was a german philosopher and he went to japan to learn how to practice zen 02:01:16.260 --> 02:01:20.040 And zen is about uh is about uh controlling your own ego 02:01:20.960 --> 02:01:26.700 um and uh and the idea is is that there is a perfect way to do the t ceremony 02:01:26.700 --> 02:01:29.840 There is a perfect way to arrange flowers. There is a 02:01:30.560 --> 02:01:35.400 Perfect way to shoot a bow and arrow and that um, uh, it's about 02:01:36.240 --> 02:01:38.680 Uh understanding that there's a method 02:01:39.460 --> 02:01:44.860 Uh, and that by quashing your ego, uh, you can get closer to that method 02:01:44.860 --> 02:01:50.440 So in it's it's it's similar to christianity in that it's about perfection of the self 02:01:51.120 --> 02:01:52.060 um the 02:01:52.780 --> 02:01:54.620 I differ from the 02:01:55.260 --> 02:01:59.180 Eschaton from the telos of the eastern religions because I believe that 02:01:59.180 --> 02:02:05.580 Eastern religions are ultimately about the destruction of the self and christianity is about the perfection of the self 02:02:06.240 --> 02:02:07.360 That's a nice distinction 02:02:08.060 --> 02:02:13.040 I get that from I I didn't make that up. Uh, it comes from a philosopher named wolf gank smith 02:02:13.040 --> 02:02:18.520 Who it it breaks my heart to find out that I lived within a few miles of him for the last 20 years of his life 02:02:18.520 --> 02:02:23.500 And he just passed away a couple of years ago and I didn't really discover him until a couple of years ago 02:02:24.380 --> 02:02:30.740 I've had um the problems with with with potential podcast guests. They they they die on me before I can get to them 02:02:31.220 --> 02:02:39.400 Yeah, anyway, but but but smiths studied he studied the Vedas, uh for most of his life and uh, his wife was a catholic 02:02:39.400 --> 02:02:46.340 And he came to the ultimate conclusion that eastern religions are about the destruction of the self the metaphor that they use is that 02:02:47.080 --> 02:02:50.160 You you uh, your your consciousness, uh 02:02:50.160 --> 02:02:54.700 melds with the one the same way that a drop of water fall goes into the ocean 02:02:55.480 --> 02:03:03.280 Um, which is kind of antithetical to christianity and it is what I think makes christianity a unique worldview 02:03:03.280 --> 02:03:04.080 Um 02:03:04.600 --> 02:03:10.180 In that it really is about the perfection of the self. It's it's not about the destruction of the self 02:03:10.920 --> 02:03:11.520 Yeah 02:03:12.240 --> 02:03:13.060 To what end? 02:03:15.160 --> 02:03:15.760 Yes 02:03:16.560 --> 02:03:19.780 I think that's the question that is the question isn't it that is that 02:03:20.620 --> 02:03:24.320 All right, maybe I think that's how we start the next podcast 02:03:25.900 --> 02:03:26.600 Right, yeah 02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:32.240 And that's a good way to end this one because yeah, exactly. Um, well, thank you. Thank you pin. That's great 02:03:32.240 --> 02:03:36.580 I'm looking forward to my cappuccino. Um as my reward for a podcast 02:03:37.320 --> 02:03:42.420 Well, well well done. I've enjoyed this very much. Well, thank you very much for asking me such 02:03:42.920 --> 02:03:45.660 such thoughtful questions and I appreciate 02:03:46.780 --> 02:03:53.160 The time and the energy that you put into figuring stuff out and I'm looking forward to doing it again 02:03:53.160 --> 02:03:56.960 It'll be fun. Um, just remind people well, we can find you 02:03:57.660 --> 02:04:01.380 right, um, uh, the Duke report, uh, if you go to the Duke report.com 02:04:01.380 --> 02:04:06.860 It will take you to my substack, which is uh, which is the Duke report dot substack.com 02:04:07.300 --> 02:04:09.300 And that's where I publish my articles 02:04:10.120 --> 02:04:14.820 And then I I I have a collection of books. 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