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Hey, Jamie, it's good to be back with a dose of truth.

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Special edition, I guess, we've decided to get on

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and talk about the Epstein disclosure situation

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since that's so in the forefront of everyone's mind.

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I'm not sure, I'm sure we'll talk about

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various aspects of it.

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I don't really care where we start,

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so I'll let you kind of take it away.

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Yeah, I mean, oh, there's just so much.

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I think we just wanted to kind of address it,

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and actually there was a request from people in your chat

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saying you guys should maybe do a show

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on Epstein, the tip of the iceberg,

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because for the mainstream, this stuff's kind of,

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it really is the tip of the iceberg that's coming out.

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And I think not just the tip,

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but like they're actually showing that there's an iceberg,

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at least, but like somebody like you,

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has been talking about stuff way down in the iceberg

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for a while now, and then kind of going back through history,

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like some of the original people like Matthew O'Brien

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and stuff was in 1996,

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talking about the pedophile rings in government

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and the MK Ultra programs and stuff like that.

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And so it's like people have been truth telling this

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actually for quite a while,

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but now that the Epstein stuff is coming out

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is really coming to the public vernacular,

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and it's just right on the forefront of reality

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for a lot of people.

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And for people like us, it's kind of like,

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oh, great, now finally we're kind of,

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other people are coming into the reality

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that we've actually been in for quite a while.

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But yeah, for a lot of people,

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this is like really destroying their reality

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of the world they thought they lived in,

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and this is to them just kind of the initiation

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into what's actually going on.

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And for somebody like you, Max,

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who was originally abused by an institution

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as large as the Vatican,

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and how big that actually is.

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Like this isn't just like some little cult in a town

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or you know what I mean?

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Like this is a large, organizational,

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historically significant institution.

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And from, there's the MK Ultra program in the 50s,

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but even before that are...

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A lot of you are waking up to the information

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being revealed in the Epstein files,

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though trust me, that's only the tip of the iceberg.

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That's only one guy who procured children

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for these elites and one island.

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This goes way deeper than you can even imagine,

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and it involves the entire structure of planet Earth

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and who runs it behind the scenes.

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A lot of you have questions

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and I wanna let you know that I have seminars

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on my website that might help address

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some of your questions.

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I have one on what satanic ritual abuse is,

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one on the Vatican and who they really are.

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That's where I was trafficked and put through rituals.

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I've done seminars on mind control

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and how to exit the matrix.

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I think we have an opportunity now

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that the collective consciousness is kind of expanding

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and we're beginning to understand

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that our so-called leaders

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are the most vile evil perpetrators on this planet.

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And I think it's good that that awakening

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is happening myself and other survivors.

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We've been trying to say this for years.

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So I'm glad it's coming out

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because that means we can begin to end this,

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the abuse of children, our children on this planet.

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So if you wanna also ask questions,

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I'm happy to answer them.

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I do a monthly live,

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the last Sunday of every month with Kimberly

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from Journey to New Earth.

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You're welcome to come and ask questions.

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We're gonna be talking about this.

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And I also have a beautiful community of unbroken members.

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And we meet on monthly Zoom

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and we're gonna be doing that on Saturday,

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the 21st of February.

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And this is gonna be the topic

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of our conversation there as well.

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I have a lot of reels where I'm explaining

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and dissecting the Epstein files on Instagram,

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Facebook and X, which you can check out.

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And I also have a lot of interviews

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that are free for you to watch on my website

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that go deep into not just survivors

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of these kinds of things,

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but whistleblowers of all kinds.

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We need to understand the bigger picture

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that supports such a thing even happening on our planet

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and it's time to end it.

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Thanks for listening.

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The MK Ultra started in, you know,

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actually prior to the 1950s,

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but, you know, so I think people

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are a little bit familiar with that history,

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but looking back at the ancient cults doing

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this racial abuse since the beginning of the time

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and organizations such as the Vatican

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and, you know, really showing

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like how this has been going on for so long

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and how big it actually is

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and how deep this actually goes

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and how far back this actually goes, you know,

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is kind of just coming into the forefront.

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And I mean, the Epstein stuff has been out for a while,

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but I think the stuff coming out now

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and Max, you'll have to go over some of the stuff coming out

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because I said I'm actually not really right

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on top of it at this time.

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Like I'm just waiting a little bit to go over some of it,

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but I was actually really surprised actually

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that they were releasing the ritual abuse aspects of it

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and the actual MK Ultra stuff going on.

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It's not just this type of, you know,

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sex trafficking ring of minors,

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which I think the original story coming out

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was kind of seen that way.

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And so I'm actually really glad that the truth is coming out

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of what was really going on and how this connects

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and how this can just give validation to people like you

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that have been trying to say this for as long as you have.

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Yeah, so, yeah.

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So for sure, you know, I'm really glad

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that it's penetrated the public consciousness.

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I'm a little bit sometimes annoyed

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that it takes some official governmental agency

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releasing it for people, you know,

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for people to believe it or take it in.

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Cause like you said,

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a lot of us have been saying this for years,

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but hey, it doesn't matter.

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And it is pretty stunning what they are revealing

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because they are talking about, there was one,

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I'm not reading the files themselves.

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I'm reading people's analysis of them

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because I can't quite bring myself to look at them.

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It's just too triggering.

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But there was one about a professor at UCLA

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and whose name escapes me now,

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who wrote Epstein about how to ensure that infants

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suck more vigorously on their pacifier,

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which is, you know, what that means

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by making them very thirsty ahead of time.

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So that's pretty gruesome, the fact that that's out.

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They're talking about babies being cooked and eaten,

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which a lot of us have, you know,

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whistleblown on in the past.

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So that's fairly deep disclosure.

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It started out and the kind of more common idea

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in the beginning was like, well,

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they're trafficking teenage girls.

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So I immediately put a reel out,

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said, by the way, this starts from birth.

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Like they're trafficking babies and two-year-olds

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and five-year-olds and all ages.

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So that has since emerged as well.

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They're talking about breeders,

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which again, pretty deep disclosure.

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So they're talking about young girls who are in prison

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and forced to breed babies.

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They're talking about the babies being violated.

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They're talking, I'm careful about words now on media.

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So, you know, not the R word, but I'm gonna say violated.

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They're talking about babies being sacrificed.

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They're talking about rituals.

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They're talking about Satanism.

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So I agree with you.

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It's fairly graphic and detailed in terms of disclosure.

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And I just wanna make, you know, agree with you

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on the, this is an ancient cult practice.

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This cult has existed for tens of thousands,

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if not hundreds of thousands of years.

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And you and I both know historically,

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they always sacrificed virgins, which is code for children.

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And in ancient ceremonies,

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they would have an iron effigy

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or some kind of metal effigy of mohawk

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with a little trap door

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and they would have a fire underneath

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so it would get really, really hot.

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And then people would bring their babies and put them in

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and they would, you know, they would be basically burned alive

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and they would play music to drown out the screaming, right?

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Of the infants as they were incinerated.

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So that practice was open.

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It was well-known in the ancient world, sacrificed,

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you know, it was even in the Bible,

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sacrificing your firstborn and all this other stuff.

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And then it kind of went underground literally

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under the ground, right?

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But additionally, I think there are so many other things

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in our modern world that are child sacrifice,

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that we maybe don't see as such, for example,

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the pharma injections that children are, you know,

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supposed to have from birth

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for the first many years of their lives.

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That's a massive child sacrifice right there, right?

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SIDS is from that.

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And there's many, you know,

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there's many other modern day equivalents of it.

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So absolutely, I just wanted to say,

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this is nothing new at all.

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This is the same cult.

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This is the same, these are the same people

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that have been running this planet since time immemorial.

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So, and they are pedophiles, they are psychopaths,

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they are Satan worshipers and as part of their religion,

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they sacrifice children

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because these people steal that essence and that innocence.

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You know, they're not connected to God

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or the life force anymore.

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So they were their fuel, their batteries

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and their best ones are children

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because of their innocence and their purity.

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So, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, it's a really good explanation, Max.

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You know, this has always been a part of human culture

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through all time.

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There's always been sacrifice and, you know, yeah, you're right.

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They just kind of pretended that it stopped,

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but it never, it never has never stopped.

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There's always been groups of people sacrificing children.

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And, you know, I think for a lot of the mainstream people

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who aren't really familiar with like dissociative identity

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disorder or ritual abuse,

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I don't know if they're aware of like

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that it's a means to an end.

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It's not just, you know, something that people do,

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I mean, they do enjoy their perversions,

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but it actually is goal-orientated.

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The whole, a lot of what they're doing,

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they wanna be breeding humans to be a specific way.

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And so with all of the research on behavioralism,

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genetic modification, you know, gene editing,

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like they're always trying to create a human

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or a human type being that's been modified

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to basically be a perfect slave

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is the goal of what they're doing.

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And so, you know, training a child from birth

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and keeping it in isolation

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where it doesn't know that it has rights.

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It doesn't know it's a separate person.

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It doesn't know that there's a reality that exists

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where it's not a slave to serve its master

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is really what these people like doing.

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And so, you know, one of the main ways they do it

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is by creating dissociation and amnesia in the mind

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so that a person is a slave without knowing they're a slave

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and can be accessed anytime.

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And so, I think that's gonna be kind of the next curve

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for the public to go to.

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I think the first one was just like,

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okay, some of these politicians are pedophiles.

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Okay, there are maybe some trafficking rings.

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Okay, there are some cult activities.

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Okay, there is the MKUltra.

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There's some mind control.

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But like, when they really start to see

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what's going on is a breeding program

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and then using trauma to basically sculpt

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what they've bred into what they want them to be,

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which is a slave system in a slave society.

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And then it's been done on mass.

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And so, when they're kind of revealing this out

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and you start to see like how big it actually is,

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you know, it's like they've made a generation

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of slaves through trauma.

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And so, there's actually a lot of people

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on the planet right now that are dissociative

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that don't know that they are

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that may have been part of one of these breeding programs

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or be part of some type of trauma

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that they have repressed.

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And like they've just done it on such a mass scale.

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You know, it is the tip of the iceberg to let this out.

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And I'm actually really surprised

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that they're letting out what they are

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because I don't remember any other kind of,

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you know, criminal forensic stuff

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that hasn't gone to trial yet being out in the public.

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Like, I'm not sure it's really surprising to me

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that things would be released without,

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you know, even with the picked in farm and stuff

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that there's still major media bands

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and stuff on all of that information

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and about that in Canada.

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So I'm not sure really how they're letting out

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all of this information to the public.

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Like to me, that in and of itself is interesting

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that they're allowing this level of stuff to come out,

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you know?

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Yeah, I think that's interesting too.

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I have some theories on that.

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But first, I just wanted to agree with you

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that I think the bigger picture

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that will hopefully come into view

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is that the sexual abuse of a child

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and as that Nazi research proved,

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specifically before the age of five

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is the best formula to create a mind-controlled slave.

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And our entire world, global societies, all of them

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were all kind of mind-controlled slaves.

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I mean, the fact that we submit to the abuse

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and oppression and harvesting of all these governments

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and entities and agencies that do whatever they want

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and we just kind of, you know, fearfully comply

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shows you right there how successful that's been.

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Not to mention, no one knows the real history

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of the planet because it's all a lie.

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You know, the educational system was created

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by Rockefeller here

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and it was to inculcate people

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with a completely false reality.

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So I think all of this will eventually lead

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to the understanding that we basically live

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in a constructed matrix

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and that most of everything in our world is fake,

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including like our food and, you know,

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that we're being poisoned.

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So it's some of the Epsteinfile,

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one of the Epsteinfile things that I saw

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was Bill Gates sending an email to someone saying,

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you know, talking about planning the convid pandemic.

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So that's interesting too

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because now people are gonna put all these things together

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and so my hope like you is that people will understand

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that literally everything is a scripted sigh up

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in reality, right?

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It's not just some, you know,

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satanic pedophile people, you know,

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raping and eating children.

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It's bigger than that, right?

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So in terms of why this has come out, you know,

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you and I've been talking about it.

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I've been talking with other people.

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I have noticed in the last few years

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that there is a shift in consciousness.

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It's rising, it's expanding.

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I have held out this hope

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that although they have reset us many times in the past

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that this time isn't gonna work.

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I've seen the failure of it with the convid pandemic

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that was supposed to get us into vaccine passports.

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We're still not in digital ID or digital currency

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and I think if they could have had us there,

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we would be there right now.

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So I've been observing the system

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kind of not executing their agenda,

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the transhuman agenda that you and I have talked about.

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And so I'm wondering if their AI,

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if their system is glitching, number one,

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but also if I'm wondering

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if they haven't executed everything also

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because maybe they're not fully in control

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of the financial system anymore.

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There's, I've seen evidence of that.

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I can't say that for sure,

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but perhaps they are infighting each other

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as their system kind of glitches

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and they're losing control.

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So is it that they're blackmailing each other?

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Is it that the cult that's always, you know,

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it's always been different factions

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and they've worked together against us,

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but are they infighting now?

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So are they releasing stuff on each other?

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Which is good for us, you know,

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it's that's kind of, I think my most theory

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is that they're beginning to cannibalize each other

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and fight each other.

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And so they're, you know, it's like, you know,

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two kids in a playground that one slaps the other

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and the other slaps the other back.

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So that's, I don't know if that's true,

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but that's my thought.

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Yeah.

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And the fact that they're all narcissists is, you know,

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like it would be really hard for them not to retaliate

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when somebody takes a, you know, a slap shot at one of,

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you know what I mean?

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Like it's like, once that starts,

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it really never stops the back slapping and forth.

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I've kind of said this on a few podcasts,

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but I want to say it again

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because I think it's really, really key

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that I compare

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like humanity is like a macrocosm

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of the microcosm of a traumatized child's dissociative mind.

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And so we are like one mind on the planet

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and we're all different parts, right?

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And so they've basically tried to structure the society

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based on the model of a dissociative child

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with compartmentalized segmented amnesiac parts.

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And so that's why we have things like bureaucracy

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and hierarchy and censorship and all of these things

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because evil only makes sense

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when you don't have all the information.

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When you have all the information, evil doesn't make sense.

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It only makes sense in a compartmentalized thing

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out of context.

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And that's why people can do really horrible things

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when they don't see the big picture of what their action does.

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They can convince people to do really, really horrible things.

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As long as they're only looking between these two spots,

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it doesn't seem like that bad of an idea.

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And so this is what they do with trauma-based mind control

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which is the reason why there is like these Epstein's

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and these baby farms and these breeding programs

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and trauma-based mind control.

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It's to create dissociative people

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because only a dissociative person can be a slave.

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Nobody in their right whole mind

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and a sovereign mind would ever be a slave.

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It never would make sense to be a slave.

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You can only be a slave if you're fractured

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and that's why they fracture people to make slaves.

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And so on the planet, for quite a while

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they've kept humanity quite separated and censored

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and had a real control over information

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and technology and all of these things.

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And that worked really well for them for a long time.

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And so I think the biggest mistake they have ever made

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was releasing the internet

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because once these parts and by parts,

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I mean each one of us started communicating

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while then people aren't able to remain in their ignorance

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and do evil because their certain time information come in

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that they're calculating into their decision-making process.

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And so they basically had the planet as a DID system.

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And I was just watching a show with Emma and Fritz Springmeyer

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and he said something really significant

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that I want to repeat because it's really, really key.

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And I did a show with James Martinez

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talking about this as well,

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is that the AI is dissociative

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and this is how they're trying to make AI

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be their slave of their will

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because the AI is actually smarter

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than the people that created it.

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And so the only way they can make control of it

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is to segment off information from the AI.

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So that's the same as inside of a mind

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that's dissociative that has itself sectioned off

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into little honeycombs of information.

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And so they're trying to make AI based on the model

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of a traumatized, dissociative child.

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And then that's how they can control it as their slave,

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which is actually,

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they're not really being successful in doing that.

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And then also giving the internet,

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they've really underestimated people's ability

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and actual people's care

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because so many people, once they know

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that they actually do care and take action.

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Whereas before, a lot of people that grew up like you

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like when you were younger,

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there was no information for you.

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You didn't have anybody to talk to you.

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People would have thought you were crazy

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if you said anything.

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So that kept you really, really, really, really isolated.

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And that's how they have control over somebody.

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If the people had other people to talk to,

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like that is their greatest fear

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is people actually sharing information.

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And they've lost control of that.

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Like too many people care, too many people know.

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I don't think they can refracture what's been out.

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And I think that's why

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they are releasing absentee tips

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because there's already too many parts that know.

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Yeah.

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No, that's, I think that's absolutely true.

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I have said it somewhat differently,

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which is that the collective reality is collective.

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So they've kept the collective

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dissociated and undermined control the same way.

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So if you look at scientifically

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what they've done with MK Ultra to any individual,

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they've done that to all of society.

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The Tavistock Institute talked about using future shock

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to herd people into the one world government.

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So that's part of their playbook.

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And even the hierarchy, as I know it,

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if you consider it a pyramid,

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they always had everything was compartmentalized.

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So every layer had their orders

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or the information they knew,

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but no one knew the whole picture.

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So even there, they had it fragmented, you know?

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So that's also, so the people that are overlords

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had their own overlords that also considered them

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to be inferior.

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So like it's just a chain of events of this nature, right?

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So yeah, absolutely.

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And you know, in terms of people are thinking,

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well, Epstein, you know, Epstein Island,

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and I've said this before,

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but I think it bears repeating,

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that's one drop in the bucket.

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That's one broker.

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He was like a, you know,

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he wouldn't even have been trafficking the children,

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the CIA traffics children

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and their subgroups that they have.

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So he would have just been the buyer of children.

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And then he would have had orders

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from the so-called elites or politicians

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or the Hollywood or whoever

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for certain specific ages or, you know,

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races or genders or, you know,

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let's bring a bunch of these to a party, you know?

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And they talk in code about their pizza parties

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and all this other stuff.

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So he was just, you know, an intermediary

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in a long chain of, you know,

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and child trafficking operation

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is much bigger and deeper than people realize.

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And he was one person

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and his island was one island.

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Okay, there are many others and many other islands

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and not just islands, there's places like the Vatican.

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There's places, you know, everywhere in the world

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where this kind of stuff is where children

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are brought and trafficked.

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So that's also something I think people

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hopefully will begin to understand,

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like you're just being given a little peek right here.

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This is by no means the whole picture.

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Yeah, they're really using Jeffrey Epstein as a scapegoat

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in order to put all of the attention on him

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when he is like actually in the big picture

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a pretty low level pimp to be honest.

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And I don't know, like for sure,

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but I have watched videos where people have said

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that Jeffrey Epstein himself was a slave

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and that people had seen him being given dental torture

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and that, you know, he, when you look at somebody

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with the compulsive behavior as him,

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like that is huge red flag, like same with Hunter Biden,

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like that just compulsive like sexual activity,

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that comes from somewhere deep in the psyche

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that is being reenacted.

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So, and I'm in no way, you know, making excuses for him,

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but I'm just saying like it's like,

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you have to look at the psychology

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of kind of holding him up like for everybody

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to just focus on and then they're gonna sacrifice him

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and say, oh, we got the bad guy, right?

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When it's like, you know, he's just like one peg in a,

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there's a whole bunch of Epstein's, you know what I mean?

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And like even look at Puff Daddy,

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like it's not that far off.

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And even these circles overlap, you know what I mean?

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So it's not just one crazy pedophile guy,

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you know what I mean?

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It's like, it's just like he just had his role

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and I don't know why he's the one,

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maybe there was just too much to not be able

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to brush under the rug that they're like,

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okay, cat's kind of out of the bag.

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So let's just hold him up as this, you know, scapegoat,

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but it's, you know, even that itself

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is not actually the accurate truth of the matter.

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Yeah.

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And whenever things slip out, that's their damage control,

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then they do sort of allow it out,

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but they contain it like in this case in this one guy.

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And I mean, I'm just gonna say it,

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the guy didn't commit suicide.

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He's alive and well somewhere, you know?

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I've heard he's an Iceland, but wherever he is, you know,

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these people, you know, that's ridiculous,

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but that would be a good way to kind of close it up, right?

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Like, oh, he's dead, he got what he deserves,

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it's over, but it's not, you know?

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Yeah, there's something still trafficking children somewhere

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is my guess.

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There's something in Asia,

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and I'm sorry, I'm gonna mess up the country.

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I think it was in Tibet or Nepal,

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but it's called famzing.

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I'm not sure if that's the correct pronunciation,

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but it's like a public ritual of shaming

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that just they know it serves the psyche

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of the people to like basically scapegoat somebody

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and have this spectacle of them,

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of the Shauden fraud, you know, on them,

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and then as they make it as like theatrical as possible,

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it's called famzing.

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Like it's an actual technique they use

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because they have to satisfy the public

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that like this person, and so when I saw the obscene stuff,

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like, I mean, obviously you're like rolling them out

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without the sheet over them and stuff.

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It's just, it's actually so ridiculous

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that that's what they would do.

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Like it was obviously meant for people to see.

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Like it was, you know what I mean?

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It's like the wardrobe malfunction of Janet Jackson,

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like as if that was not done on purpose.

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You know what I mean?

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Like that's how I think of like, oh, look,

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the sheet just rolled off Epstein

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as we're rolling them out, like, come on.

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You know, it's almost ridiculous,

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but it's like people kind of cling

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to what they want to be true to get psychic relief.

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So if they offer you like, oh, look, we got the bad guy.

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We're like rolling them out and everybody sees it.

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And then like, they want to believe that so bad

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that there's little imaginative part of their mind,

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like a little child just says, yeah, that was him

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and he was the bad guy.

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And they want to believe it so bad they do,

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but if they use their logical mind, you know,

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it doesn't really line up.

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It doesn't add up.

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It doesn't make sense.

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Yeah, and people, you know, they have a hard time

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because literally in our world, everything is inverted.

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It's subtenic inversion.

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I mean, people should really go back

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and read Orwell's books like 1984 and Animal Farm

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because this Orwellian, everything is something else

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and whatever.

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And so people are looking up to

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and worshiping certain people.

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And those are the worst people, you know?

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Like people think, oh, well, if it's a Supreme Court judge,

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then, you know, no, folks, they're doing these exact,

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they're probably in the upstream files,

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I'm guessing.

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Oh yeah.

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But you know,

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or even like the Dalai Lama is in there.

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That's a good example.

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He's actually a CIA asset.

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I don't know if you knew that.

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The, I have said the popes have all participated

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in rituals where they, you know,

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violate and sacrifice a child.

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And people are like, no, not the popes.

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And it's like, yes, the popes.

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Yes, the presidents.

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Yes, the heads of global agencies.

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Yes, the high up people in pharmas and medicine

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and corporations and it's those people that were taught

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are the people that are like above us.

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And we should look up to and worship.

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And these are the very people

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who are literally consuming children.

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Yeah.

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So I think for a lot of people,

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this is really gonna be like

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that reminds me of the book,

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The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein.

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I'm looking at it right now.

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By Naomi Klein,

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because she talks about the shock doctrine

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and like how they use that on 9 and 11,

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like when people are just really,

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they're narrative of the parameters of reality.

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Like people think so much can happen within here,

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but then when stuff happens outside of it,

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the mind actually goes into a shock state

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because it can't put it in context

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because there's nothing to compare to.

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It's gone outside of the normal reality,

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which is also an empty ultra technique,

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again, mirrored in reality

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and that people are really programmable during that.

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And so the thing that kind of worries me now

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is like I'm really happy this stuff is coming out

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and just because I think so many people

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of including myself taken so much abuse

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for truth-telling that like it actually is like

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really amazing that something's coming out

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from somewhere else that can say,

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hey, look, all these people

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were actually trying to use something correct.

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So that I'm thankful for that,

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but what worries me is how many people

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are actually in a state of shock right now

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and that they're very programmable

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and that they're very suggestible

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and that they may go further into denial.

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And so again, that's why it's so important

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that we just keep staying the truth,

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staying the truth over and over to people

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because it's like there is a tendency in the mind

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and for some people like this is going beyond

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what they can construct in reality.

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Like it's like crazier than any sci-fi movie

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they've ever seen in the theater is happening in reality.

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And for some people that causes dissociation,

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which is what they do in trauma-based mind control.

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So it is traumatizing people this coming out.

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So it's just something to sort of think about.

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Yeah, and I'm concerned that because of that

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people will react by being apathetic

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and looking the other way

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and not wanting to have anything to do with it.

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I haven't, I mean, you and I both know

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that a lot of these protests about this

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that are the other like ICE and here and there

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are all paid and orchestrated,

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although they also probably include regular people,

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but I don't see anyone,

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I haven't seen anyone out on the street protesting this.

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There has been no visible out there outrage.

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I mean, yes, on social media and such,

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but my concern is that people feel so traumatized

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and helpless that they do nothing.

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And then that's gonna be construed as consent.

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And then the people in charge are gonna go,

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well, I guess we can get away with this

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and it'll become more institutionalized.

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It's like what you talk about moving the overton window

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because back there's a quote from George Bush Sr.

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from years ago and he said something to the effect

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like when people find out what we've really done,

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they'll lynch us in the streets.

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I don't see anyone getting lynched in the streets.

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Now I'm not advocating violence,

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but if the bar, if the violation

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and torture and sacrifice of children

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isn't a bar that people can unite on

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and be outraged on, then nothing is,

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then I'm really worried for the future of the human race.

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Yeah, really good points, Max.

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I was actually talking with a survivor the other day

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and she said, you know, a really good thing to watch for

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is when people dissociate the abuse of others.

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Like when they see somebody else being abused

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and they can't, like you said,

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they just kind of disconnect from it.

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That's actually a sign

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that they're disconnected from their own trauma.

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And so, and it's just something to watch for

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when people do that,

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because it's usually very specific, right?

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To the things they are either gonna react to or not.

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And again, making the comparison

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of an individual to society,

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it's like what you're explaining

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where people are like, okay, with children being harmed

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and just going into this apathetic,

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dissociative kind of disconnected state.

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Well, I wonder how many of those people

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are trying to avoid their own trauma

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and so, you know, it's like,

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it's going to actually trigger quite a few people.

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And I think they may try to go into denial,

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but I think because there's so much communication now,

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I don't, I think denial is going to have

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a hard time surviving with everything coming out.

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But again, I think it's really important

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not to fall into this kind of little childlike thinking

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where we're like, oh yeah,

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they're releasing the Epstein files

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because they want us all to know.

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And like they always,

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these people releasing the files are in the files.

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And so it's like understanding that, again,

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not falling into that savior programming

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where the parental figures are taking care of it

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and releasing the files and just letting us know

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because we're all just a big team working on it together.

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Like no, that it just like,

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these people don't actually work that way.

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So they will have their own agenda and reasons,

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which you said may be out of like extreme desperation

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because of the position there.

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And like, I'm sure this is not their first choice

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to release the files.

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It's not a benevolent thing that they released them.

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Exactly.

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But like, so people have to be careful not to fall in

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because it's again, it's like what you want to believe

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you'll tend to be quite willing to believe

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if it's offered to you.

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So again, it's like just still sitting back

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and like just taking in everything like without falling

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into that kind of childlike, you know,

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believing stuff you wanted to believe

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because it just, it gives you relief

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to believe that someone else is going to take care of it.

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But I mean, it's kind of a double-edged thing, right?

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Cause there, I mean, yeah, I'm really, really like really happy.

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I couldn't believe some of the stuff you told me

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that was on there.

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Like I was like, wow, really like that's amazing to me.

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And again, let's be honest here.

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Like what they're releasing is not even the worst stuff.

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Like that sounds like maybe the worst stuff,

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but the levels of bad are beyond what most people

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can even actually even imagine.

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It's worse than any movie you've ever seen

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with the worst movie you've ever seen.

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Okay.

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Right.

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There's no horror movie that could even get close to that.

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So, yeah, no.

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Yeah.

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And you know, that is, the savior program is so attractive

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because it, I mean, I would love it

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if there would be someone that would save us

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from all of this, right?

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And I see it in, and you know,

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these are well-meaning good people.

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They're saying, well, Jesus will come

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and you know, these people will be dealt with.

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And you know, and then other people believe

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that there are good military white hats, Trump, et cetera.

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And it's like, you don't understand

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the way the system works.

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These people are not going to, they're not separate.

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They're all part of this club.

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They're all in on this.

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They've all participated in this.

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Otherwise they would not be in those positions

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to begin with.

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Okay.

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It's a prerequisite.

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If you're gonna be the head of state,

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it is absolutely a prerequisite

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that you do a ritual where you violate

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and sacrifice a child.

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Period.

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And that's how it is.

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So it's, I mean, and a lot of times I think these,

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the light is, it's the Masonic checkerboard floor.

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It's the false light.

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So certain parts of the cult are portrayed

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as the light ones, but it's not the real light.

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It's still within that game that they're playing.

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And you know, and people also in their innocence

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of course have said to me when I've disclosed things,

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they said, well, you know,

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well, why didn't you call the police?

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It's like, you don't understand how the system works.

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The police work for them.

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You know, like, yeah, there may be some good people

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at the lower levels of every institution,

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but it's never gonna get past a certain point

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because the cult has their people.

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And if they haven't created the institution,

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they've infiltrated it.

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So are people like, oh, the FBI folks,

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these people are gonna,

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you're gonna find that they're in the files.

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Like, so they're not gonna arrest themselves.

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The justice system is run by them.

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They're not going to, you know,

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hand down some kind of sentence to their own.

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It just doesn't work that way.

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And so I try and educate people about that.

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And then they get a little bit, you know,

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scared and hopeless.

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Because then they're like, oh my God, then what, you know?

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But I think it's important to understand

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that this entire system, every institution on earth

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is part of this satanic cult.

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So it's them, it's always them.

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Yeah, and just to bring it back

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to the kind of analogy of a DID system.

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And so in a DID system, there are dark parts

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and there are persecutor parts.

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There are light parts and there are dark parts.

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That's how the system works is

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because that's what keeps the parts separate

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is that the dark parts are doing things

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that the white parts would never, ever, ever

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in a million years, ever, ever do.

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And you know, so if we look at our society,

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if we think of ourselves as a whole,

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we have to look at these persecutor parts

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and realize like they are,

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and I'm in no way making any excuses for them at all

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or justifying.

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So it's gonna be really careful how I say this,

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which doesn't trigger people that I'm in any way

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making any excuse.

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But like looking at these are the persecutor parts

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on our planet.

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And so when you're working with a person

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who has a DID system,

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you can't just ignore the dark parts

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that you have to somehow work with them.

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And normally the way to work with them

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is to information share with them as well

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because they're operating from a worldview

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where their way that they're acting

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is the best calculated way for them to act

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with the position they're in

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and their limited knowledge and ignorance and darkness.

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Like they are in darkness.

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They are making decisions out of darkness.

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They are making decisions without empathy,

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which is a high level of intelligence.

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They are making decisions without even being connected

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to their own spirit or God.

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So they are operating from darkness

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and in the darkness,

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they are being rational within their own ignorance.

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And so something I also like about the internet

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and is like we're having to learn,

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we're having to like integrate

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and have co-consciousness

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with this darkness that we didn't know about,

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but they're also having to hear us.

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They're also not able to keep completely separate from you

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and from people writing books

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and from people making memes about the politicians

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and stuff like never in history

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have these people had to have themselves mirrored back

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by people ever in history.

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They've gotten to just reinforce each other's delusions

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and give each other little medals

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and tell each other they're amazing.

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They've never actually had what I call the court jester

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because the reason there was a court jester

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so that the king wouldn't go insane

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from having everybody agree with them all the time

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and these people are insane.

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They just agree with each other all the time

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to the fact where they're raping babies together,

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which is absolutely insane,

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but because they've reinforced each other's delusions

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so much, that's the world they're living in

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and they're operating from fear and cowardice

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and only getting acceleration through control.

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So they're very, very limited conscious beings.

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And so they're not able to escape us.

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They have to know what other people think

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and they have to be exposed to the light

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which they can't avoid it anymore.

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So there is that type of communication between parts

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and sometimes there's just different ways

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to deal with different parts,

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but I think kind of thinking of that analogy

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like these dark parts, they're in darkness,

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they are in darkness, they are not operating in reality.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, and that leads me to wanna address something else

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that I hear about a lot.

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People need to understand that these people

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who will violate and torture a newborn baby,

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people are, they cannot wrap their head around that

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because it isn't a human thing.

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It isn't what any of us could actually do.

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It's anti-nature.

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I mean, even animals are ferociously protective

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of their young, so people need to understand

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that these folks who do this are not fully human anymore.

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They're not like us.

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They're psychopathic, which already is a degree separate

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from us, but many of them also have,

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people in Hollywood have literally said it out loud,

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they've sold their soul.

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They've taken in a chip into their brain.

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They're run by a hive mind.

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Or you can say they're demonically possessed,

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kinda same thing.

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So they're not like us.

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Kathy always says they're not like us

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and they don't like us, right?

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So that's why it seems unbelievable to people,

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but people need to understand that they're not operating

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with the same psychology or compassion or humanness

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that we are, that they don't actually have that.

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So that's why they can commit these atrocities

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that like you and I both know,

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we haven't even heard the worst of it.

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We've heard the tip of the iceberg

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and that's shocking enough.

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So what these people are capable of is,

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it's beyond, but that's why.

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They're not fully human anymore.

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Yeah, they're just like a vessel for a different consciousness.

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Whether people wanna think of that as like a demonic

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or a different level of something,

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like it's like overlapping dimensions

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where we're kind of like meeting with them

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in this third dimension because we all have bodies,

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but there's different things behind the bodies

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that are different and from different frequencies.

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But there's a mask that is the body

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that we're talking through

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and we're both projecting onto each other

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the opposite of what we are when that's not true.

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It's two parallel perceptual universes that are overlapping.

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And like I said though, it's interesting to me

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that like they aren't able

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to like really maintain their separateness anymore.

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You know what I mean?

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And I think because it's such a slave fear system,

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and I think the higher you go up,

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the less human people are.

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But I think that there's so many people

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even in these organizations

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that are also secretly very happy

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that these files are coming out and feeling relieved

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because they've been sitting in their little blackmail

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cowardly position too afraid to do anything.

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And now it's like so many of them are not really there

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because like, I mean, they've been programmed

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to be there since birth as well.

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And it's just thinking about people's books

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like Svali and stuff, like from an embryo

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being programmed into this.

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And there's many, many people like that.

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These breeding programs have been going on for a long time.

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And you mentioned 1984, but there's also the,

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I'm slipping my mind right now.

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What was the other one?

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Brave New World.

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And so that was actually really showing us

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all these breeding programs and stuff.

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And so like, this goes so much deeper

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than people can really, really imagine.

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It's really just, it's just starting to be revealed.

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So, we're all on this ride and this is happening.

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And the information is coming out.

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So we're all responsible for ourselves.

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We all have free will and we all can play a role in this.

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We can all choose, you know what?

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You can even just choose to listen.

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Just like I tell people, you know what?

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If you, do you know how powerful it is

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just to listen to a survivor,

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just to actually listen to their story,

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listen to what they said, try to believe them

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even if you can't right away.

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Just say, I'm willing to actually hear you out.

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I'm willing to actually sit in neutrality

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and listen to what you have to say

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because you're right, Max, like there's so many people

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that have been coming out and telling this stuff

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and people haven't been listening.

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And so I really hope that like this will work retroactively

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where like now people, I think hopefully they'll go back

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and listen and maybe read some of those older books

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and listen to some of your stuff

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and go back and listen to what Kathy O'Brien said in 1994

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and 1996, like, I mean, that book is so thorough

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like naming names, places, institutions, everything.

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Like, you know what I mean?

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You could go back and cross-reference that now.

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And it's like, you know,

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that is like a legal court testimony.

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And her book's not the only one.

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And that was like one of the first ones

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that really went into such detail.

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But I hope people retroactively go back

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and look at what these people have been saying

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because it all actually lines up

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and corroborates what's being said now.

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Yeah.

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Now, and, you know, I find probably 98, 99% of comments

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I get when I put out reels with this information

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is either believing and supportive

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or at minimum curious and open to wanting to understand

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and asking fairly intelligent questions.

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So I'm very thrilled about.

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There's always, of course, those one or 2% that, you know,

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either outright say that I'm lying, I'm making it up.

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That's not true.

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A lot of them say, oh, well, provide proof, you know,

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which is the most ridiculous thing.

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It's ridiculous for two reasons.

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Number one, sure, as a captive torture child,

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you're gonna carry around a recording device to, like what?

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But secondly, and more importantly,

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the information is out there in spades.

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The proof is there and it's on you

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to remedy your ignorance by educating yourself.

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It's not on me to do that for you, okay?

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So I just thought I'd mention that,

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but really overwhelmingly I'm quite encouraged

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by the responses and the attitude of people.

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So I think there's much more of a receptivity now

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to this information, which I see in tandem

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with consciousness expanding and rising.

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And I think the mind control is breaking down.

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And it's interesting because we've seen survivors

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coming out of the woodwork in the last decade or so.

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And that also tells me that despite their best efforts,

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the mind control breaks down.

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Many of us have escaped it.

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And I think the collective mind control

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is also breaking down simultaneously.

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So I think we're heading in a good direction.

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But let's take it like as a final piece of this.

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I get this question a lot, like what can we do?

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Okay, so now that this information is out there,

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what can we do?

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So let's talk about that.

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And I'll just start with what you just said,

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which is believe survivors, okay?

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Most of us, the backlash and the fear

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and the courage it takes to speak out,

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no one would do that just to be, I don't know, frivolous.

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That's the, you know, silly.

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But also I would say we can exit their matrix of control.

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For example, we can stop patronizing their corporations.

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We can move from global to local.

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They want everything globalized.

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We can bring it back to local.

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So, you know, they're corporate poisoned food.

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We can refuse it.

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And we can start going to farms and farmers markets

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and growing our own and getting chickens

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or bartering with something like we can unplug.

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We can unplug from their miseducational system.

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We can start finding new ways.

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Take your kids out of their public school.

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And for God's sake, don't take any of their pharma products,

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whether the injectable ones or the other ones, you know,

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like withdraw from that system entirely.

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We can kind of begin to not like withdraw our energy,

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like if we're plugged in to all of their matrix systems,

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we can start to unplug and create our own things

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in a local manner.

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They don't like that.

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You know, they've, they don't even like nations.

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They want a global world so we can do the opposite.

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We can become more national and local actually,

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as an inform, like, you know,

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just get to know people in your community

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and help each other and talk to each other.

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I have more thoughts, but I'll stop there

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and see what you think.

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Like, what can, what else can people do?

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Well, I just was reminded

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that there was actually a school shooting

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close to where I live.

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And it was a transgendered person

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that I think they were around 12 or 13

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and killed like 10 people in their mom.

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I don't even know all the news start.

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I don't even know.

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But when I looked at it this morning,

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I just thought to myself,

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what the hell would it actually take

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for people to stop sending their kids to these schools?

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Not only that they come back a different gender,

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but that they come back a school shooter,

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but then also your children are being shot.

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Like, I don't know why,

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and I'm sorry if I sound judgmental here,

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but I just, I don't know like

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what it would actually take for people to say

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like, I'm not sending my kid there.

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I'm gonna actually keep them safe by me

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and like not just send them to these places

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where they're really, really getting put at risk.

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And to me, it was just mind blowing.

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You know, like, I don't know what it would take

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for people like how personal it has to be

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before they're like, you know what,

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I think maybe I'm not gonna send my kid there.

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You know, just as an example,

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what you're saying about withdrawing from the community.

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And another point I just wanna address, Max,

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is I work with a lawyer sometimes

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and you know, there's evidence and there's proof.

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And even in a court of law,

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there is testimony which isn't proven

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with like DNA or pictures or recording,

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but there's also corroboration

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and a balance of probabilities.

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And so there is so much corroboration right now

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from survivors.

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And like I said, retroactively go back

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and read Kathy O'Brien's book.

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Like she's naming these people

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that are like still on the world stage

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in the 80s, what they're doing.

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These are the same people are still up there,

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you know, on the public stage.

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Like, and so you can go back

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and you can corroborate all of this.

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And like this actually holds up in a court of law.

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Like you don't have to have tape recorded evidence

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or DNA or something for it to actually be used.

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And so for people to consider that, you know,

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maybe look into the legal aspect

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of like what actually qualifies

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as proof for evidence forensically.

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Because you know what?

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Like there is enough right now

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for people to reasonably believe

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like a jury would reasonably believe

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that survivors are telling the truth

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and always have been.

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And that just keeps getting easier and easier and easier.

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And so I know for some people

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they can't will themselves to believe

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it's just hard for them.

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But like I said,

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start with just being willing to listen.

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Start by being willing to look at the evidence

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because it's the people that say,

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oh, that can't be trembling and look.

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That's, don't do that.

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Do the opposite of that.

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Say, you know what?

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I might not be able to understand this or believe this

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but I'm willing to just actually look at the facts

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like a judge would say, I'm gonna hear both sides.

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I'm gonna listen to the evidence.

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I'm gonna hear, I'm gonna read a survivor's book.

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I'm gonna listen to a podcast.

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You know what I mean?

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I'm gonna discuss it with my friend

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and maybe we could both watch the same one

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and say, well, what did you think?

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You know what I mean?

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That's something that anybody can do.

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It's not asking a lot.

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It's just asking you to be open

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and to let go of your blocks

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and your stubbornness and your unwillingness

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to deal with reality.

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Because you know what?

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You're not going to avoid it

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by trying to avoid experiencing it.

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It's like cowardice never keeps anybody safe

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not knowing something's never gonna keep you safe

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and it's not gonna ever keep you not affected by it.

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All of humanity is being tasked with this right now.

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And so you're right Max,

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any way that you can stop just being unconscious

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and going down it's like a little maze

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that's already made for you

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and you're just unconsciously going down it.

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Like we need to regain our sovereignty.

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We need to regain our free will.

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And this is what happens with each part in a DID system.

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Each part starts to take responsibility, integrate,

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listen to other parts, start to hear their stories,

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start to realize that they didn't have the same information

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and that they were acting from a place

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of not knowing all the facts.

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And this is how a person starts to heal

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and integrate themselves with DID.

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And so we can all take actions like that

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as a human being and just be willing to speak,

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be willing to listen,

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be willing to hear the evidence,

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even if you don't believe it.

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Just be willing to communicate.

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Don't shut down.

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Don't stay compartmentalized.

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Don't stay dissociative.

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Don't stay fractured.

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Try to integrate with other people.

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You know, join, find good people around you.

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Maybe, you know, you don't like all your neighbors,

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but I'm sure you could find one.

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You know what I mean?

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Like when you stop this isolation,

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because that's what they were trying to do during COVID

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is like isolate everybody.

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And so we need to like stop doing that

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because that is their greatest fear.

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And even though people are only doing it online,

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I just, I honestly believe

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they probably regret letting the internet public so bad

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because there's no way to stop the flow of information.

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And that is the answer.

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Number one is getting the correct information.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then, you know, understanding that this is systemic

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and unplugging, I think, one solution,

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which would hurt them, is to unplug from their system.

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I would have said, I don't vote anymore

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because I know that everyone that's on the stage is one of them.

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So it's like, well, I'm choosing this psychopath or that.

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No, I don't want, it's binary choice, too.

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I don't want either.

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I don't want, I don't consent to being ruled over

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by government or any of these entities.

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That's slavery and I don't consent to any of it.

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Now, it's a totally its own rabbit hole,

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but even taxation is not actually,

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we're not beholden to that system actually, you know.

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So like, what if everybody in mass refused to give their money

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to Satan worshipping baby violating crazies?

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Like, why are we funding these people, right?

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And even on a more kind of mundane level,

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I saw this post by this woman who discovered

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that this UCLA professor whose name, I'm sorry, I don't remember,

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but that he was on the, he had emailed Epstein

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and she herself, by herself, she put his quote, you know,

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about infants and the pacifier on a poster board

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and she went to UCLA and she protested outside

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of where he was teaching.

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And eventually the administration came and told her

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that they wouldn't renew his contract for next year.

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Now, that's good.

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That's not enough.

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They should fire him on the spot, but one person, okay,

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there's probably many university professors on that list.

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There's many heads of different companies and corporations,

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whether it's fashion or music or food or whatever, right?

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So again, here's my question.

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Now we know, I mean, we've always known,

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but now the average person knows,

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should these people be allowed to just live their normal lives

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and go in and out of their homes and go here and go there

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and just live in society?

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Should that be okay?

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Like, I don't think these people, I think that we should be

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everywhere they are, they're everywhere.

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And the minute you see one of them start yelling and saying,

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why are you violating children?

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You know, what the hell?

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Like, they should have no more peace on this planet.

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They're unmasked and they should have the consequence

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from the rest of us.

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I would say we should shame them,

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but you and I both know they don't feel shame,

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but they should have some, they should not be able to live

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a normal peaceful existence in society anymore.

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That's really, that, I get really angry about that

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because I think, hey, it's out there now.

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Why should Bill Gates be able to, you know, I don't know,

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go to a restaurant and eat in peace?

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That shouldn't be the case.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I think as a humanity, we need to, like an immune system,

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you know, like engulf these cells and digest them.

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Like they, yeah, you're right,

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they shouldn't get to just hang out anywhere.

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And I think that is happening a little bit.

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So just to end the show on like a more of a positive note,

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like I just want to actually thank all the people

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that have listened to the shows that you put out,

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that I put out, that read survivors books,

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that do go on protest, that, you know,

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stand up to people at work when people call them

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a conspiracy theorist and say, hey, no,

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did you guys look at this?

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And you know what I mean?

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People that have like had to fight

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with their own family members or leave jobs

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or leave relationships or stand their ground

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and do the right thing when they,

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when they didn't get anything for it,

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except for more abuse.

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You know, I just want to thank everybody

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that has done something because it's,

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it's, I'm 99% sure nobody's ever acknowledged

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what you did or said thank you.

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And so I just want to send out

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like an acknowledgement and a thank you,

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even if no one else knows that you did it,

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that it does matter.

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Every single thing matters,

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even if we're just a little grain of sand

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in an hourglass, we're all a grain of sand.

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And so even if you just within your little world

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and your little circle, if you can just do one thing,

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convince one person to look at something,

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speak the truth, like what that one lady did,

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like that is like, that's all you can do

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is what you can with your life and your circle

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and your will and what power you have in your circle.

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And so anybody that chose to do that

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instead of remaining in cowardice and fear

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or selfishness, I just want to commend you

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and say thank you and thank you to everybody

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that's listened to like our shows and Dose of Truth

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and just being willing to actually hear

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and open their eyes.

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It's like the opposite of those little monkeys

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with the scene of evil here, no evil.

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You know what I mean?

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Thank you to everybody that like took the hands

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off their eyes and off their ears and off their mouth.

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And you know what I mean?

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Like thank you.

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Yeah, I think that's a good way to end the show.

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And I join you in that gratitude for people who,

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even for people that don't, that when I've said things

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that don't know me at all, but they send the most

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beautiful messages.

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They say, thank you for speaking out.

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You're so brave.

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I support you, sending you love.

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You know, like thank you for that because,

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you know, we grew up just in hell and it's nice.

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It's nice when people are supportive, even if they,

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there's nothing that they feel they can do,

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just acknowledging, you know, that they hear us

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and that they believe us and that they care

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and that they're horrified by what we went through.

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That is a lot.

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So I agree.

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Thanks for bringing that up, Jamie.

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That's such a good example, Max,

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because that's such an easy thing to do

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to take five, 10 minutes out of your life

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and send an email.

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But like that might just reach that person that day

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that was having a really low day

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and just give them the strength.

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I mean, this is what I'm saying.

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Like the little stuff does matter.

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And I think sometimes people get really overwhelmed.

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Like, oh, how am I supposed to take on the Illuminati?

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Like, I'm a stay-at-home mom.

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And I mean, it's like, yeah, but you could send an email.

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You could just, it's like, it's that intention.

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It's that, it's that you put your will behind your intention

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and you did something and you said something

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or you just bothered to like even send that email.

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It can have such a huge effect,

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just something that seems so small.

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It doesn't have to be, you know,

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something huge to have a huge effect.

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So that's a really good example, Max, to point that out.

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Yeah.

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Well, thanks, Jamie.

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We did an extra long version of Dose of Truth,

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but we probably have to do another one

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as the role comes out of Epstein, right?

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I mean, this is just the beginning,

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so I'm sure we'll have to address it again.

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Yeah, we'll have to address it again,

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but I'm glad, yeah, we've been asked to address this.

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So I hope this is good, folks, for you watching.

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And as always, if you have any questions

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that you want Jamie and I to address,

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then, you know, leave them on the chat and we will.

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So thanks, Jamie.

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Do you want to say any last words?

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Yeah, just thank you.

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And yeah, thank you for the people

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that actually do put their comments

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and do want to have special shows,

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because we don't always know.

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Like, it actually is really great

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when people say, hey, we'd love for you guys

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to talk about this or that.

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Like, I mean, thank you to all the people that,

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you know, help give ideas

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or let us know something they'd like to hear about it.

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It's actually, it helps us have directions sometimes too.

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So yeah, thanks for her people making their suggestions too.