WEBVTT 00:11.540 --> 00:20.880 what up vigilantes so I have a very amazing treat for you guys um I just I 00:20.880 --> 00:26.860 love the I love this community I really do um in my opinion they are the most 00:28.460 --> 00:33.580 iconic gem in all of crypto and they really are um they're unsung heroes in 00:33.580 --> 00:39.420 my opinion because the world is stupid and is completely confused with 00:39.420 --> 00:44.120 noise and stupid shit and there's a lot of psyops that go on as I've been 00:44.120 --> 00:49.120 telling you guys where people are told that things that are intelligent and 00:49.120 --> 00:55.160 useful and necessary are dumb it's all inverted all stupid all dumb they want 00:55.160 --> 00:58.300 you to think that what's good is bad and bad is good was ugly is beautiful 00:58.300 --> 01:04.400 was beautiful is ugly it's crazy but I'm really happy that my friend 01:05.360 --> 01:10.640 just kidding he's not my friend but I'm really happy that things with him and 01:10.640 --> 01:15.620 the hot to a girl have gone the way they have because now it has it's now a time 01:15.620 --> 01:19.400 to refocus in crypto and focus on things that matter to have utility and 01:19.400 --> 01:23.300 really what really matters it's in the word right crypto cryptography the 01:23.300 --> 01:29.600 most cutting-edge form of cryptography is only embraced by those who are the 01:29.600 --> 01:35.760 bravest and it's really easy out there to get confused and not know where to how 01:35.760 --> 01:39.340 to embrace the best of technology especially when there's so much money 01:39.340 --> 01:45.520 from governments institutions Silicon Valley big tech that wants to come in 01:45.520 --> 01:49.620 have a have to have their state seat at the table and you get a lot of 01:49.620 --> 01:55.620 confusing things you don't know who to trust well I am blessed here to be 01:55.620 --> 02:03.940 joined by two members volunteers of pirate chain our baby and I'm I'm so happy 02:03.940 --> 02:09.060 that they're here this is a grassroots movement it's a grassroots a network 02:09.840 --> 02:13.040 fireworks to get real it's probably my favorite network it is my favorite 02:13.040 --> 02:19.980 network and it's my favorite network because it's of how guttural it is how 02:19.980 --> 02:31.040 raw it is how new it is and how important it is we all love Monero I love 02:31.040 --> 02:36.580 Monero but the technology that we have here is unlike anything that Monero has 02:36.580 --> 02:42.860 offered and can offer and even post of full-chain membership proofs even will 02:42.860 --> 02:49.620 be able to offer because in Monero you still have to wait 20 minutes to move 02:49.620 --> 02:54.440 money in pirate chain with zero knowledge proved by default you don't have to 02:54.440 --> 02:59.160 wait 20 minutes and as of right now it is the most private cryptocurrency in the 02:59.160 --> 03:03.380 world and even after full-chain membership proofs that's questionable 03:03.380 --> 03:13.100 whether Monero will you know match it because we're expecting it to to match 03:13.100 --> 03:17.420 it so how are you guys doing and my first question is what are your 03:17.420 --> 03:21.820 thoughts on Monero the Monero project and I have to say this guys I have to 03:21.820 --> 03:29.720 say this you guys have grown a lot over the years pirate chain I see you guys 03:29.720 --> 03:37.900 at every Monero con at every Monero topia the level of maturity that this 03:37.900 --> 03:46.080 network I've seen embrace over the years like it's really awesome for me it's 03:46.080 --> 03:50.420 very it gives me a lot of joy you guys take what you guys are doing very serious 03:50.420 --> 03:55.260 and I and I and it's almost like you guys have already have gone to the next 03:55.260 --> 03:59.940 level I think honestly that you guys being around the Monero community has 03:59.940 --> 04:04.180 really influenced you guys in a very positive way and I want to thank 04:04.180 --> 04:09.720 especially the Monero devs including Kyava nerve thank you sir thank you 04:09.720 --> 04:13.980 everyone there because you guys I seen you guys talk to the pirate chain 04:13.980 --> 04:18.020 people and really like I can tell you guys have had an incredible influence on 04:18.020 --> 04:21.800 them and so first and foremost I'll shout out to Monero and to everyone in the 04:21.800 --> 04:25.960 Monero community for being like a good big brother to the pirate chain 04:25.960 --> 04:31.940 community so um state of I want to know your this how you feel about the 04:31.940 --> 04:37.760 state of the privacy space Monero what are your thoughts for me you want to 04:37.760 --> 04:42.160 take it yeah for me I absolutely love Monero I've been the Monero 04:42.160 --> 04:46.180 community far longer than I've been in pirate chain I use it all the time and 04:46.180 --> 04:49.260 I absolutely love those guys I have no ill will towards them or anything like that 04:49.260 --> 04:53.500 I consider myself Monero I consider myself part of Monero if being on the 04:53.500 --> 04:57.420 pirate chain team they told me I had to abandon Monero or talk bad about it 04:57.420 --> 05:01.780 then I would never have joined but I use it all the time I love what 05:01.780 --> 05:05.360 they're doing I'm very excited that they're upgrading their privacy to 05:05.360 --> 05:08.760 full-chain membership proofs as I'm gonna be the first person to you 05:08.760 --> 05:11.940 know looking into a day it comes out I'm be using Monero even more I'm 05:11.940 --> 05:16.820 really excited about it the but I also think it's dangerous to rely on one 05:16.820 --> 05:21.120 privacy protocol out there there's no reason why we can't have multiple for 05:21.120 --> 05:25.120 different just for a you know if there's different technical reasons for 05:25.120 --> 05:28.460 it or there might be problems with one versus the other we need to have a way 05:28.460 --> 05:34.280 to privately move wealth digitally and permission this permissionlessly and 05:34.280 --> 05:38.580 in a decentralized way and if one had one fails or one has a problem we 05:38.580 --> 05:43.700 need something back there and that's why you know I embrace pirate chain I and I 05:43.700 --> 05:47.020 saw that zero not the power of zero knowledge proofs and they're the most 05:47.020 --> 05:51.220 superior way to find privacy on the blockchain and so when I was looking 05:51.220 --> 05:54.320 around I've been involved in crypto space for a long time I would get 05:54.320 --> 05:57.740 excited about some of these other projects and then they end up letting 05:57.740 --> 06:01.460 me down or as I became more educated myself I learned that a lot of it's 06:01.460 --> 06:04.420 mostly noise there's a lot more nuance to a lot of the stuff and I 06:04.420 --> 06:09.800 was just disappoint disappointed over and over and over again and so when I was 06:09.800 --> 06:14.060 really looking for coins to support pirate chain when it launched it was 06:14.060 --> 06:17.680 really the only other one I could find that I'm like yes I could put my you 06:17.680 --> 06:20.620 know put my word behind this one I could put my full support behind this 06:20.620 --> 06:23.800 thing and it's basically for me it's Monero and pirate chain that I can 06:23.800 --> 06:26.560 support like that all the other I'm wishing the others best I have hope 06:26.560 --> 06:29.420 that they'll be able to accomplish what they're trying to accomplish but 06:29.420 --> 06:33.220 as of right now it's crypto for me is Monero and pirate chain and I'm 06:33.220 --> 06:36.300 completely blessed to be on the pirate chain team we love Monero we want to 06:36.300 --> 06:39.460 make more inroads with them we want to be friends with them we want to build a 06:39.460 --> 06:47.000 better future together can I add to that of course of course thank you as you 06:47.000 --> 06:51.960 mentioned as Daniel mentioned that yeah we would like to be friends and yeah I 06:51.960 --> 06:55.840 feel we need more privacy and we are allies we are not competitors to 06:55.840 --> 07:00.520 each other we shouldn't be fighting against each other then we die nation 07:00.520 --> 07:06.080 state government they crack down on us the few of us remaining if we are ally 07:06.080 --> 07:12.600 if we fight together against the world we have a chance of survival or do 07:12.600 --> 07:16.540 something better on top of the way you said about Kaibana he's an amazing 07:16.540 --> 07:22.040 developer he's been building several decks I'm a pirate and I've been 07:22.040 --> 07:26.660 helping him without telling him I'm a pirate on his testnet and then I may 07:26.660 --> 07:32.380 hit met up with him last year absolutely amazing person and very 07:32.380 --> 07:38.720 knowledgeable okay guys so a lot of people here watching are familiar with 07:38.720 --> 07:44.420 Monero and I always tell people that Monero is the most secure because it's 07:44.420 --> 07:47.400 the most peer-reviewed so I'm gonna ask you guys some questions that are 07:47.400 --> 07:52.260 heavy but they come from the place of of love it was straight up you know 07:52.260 --> 07:56.440 you guys have really okay you guys have been you guys have taken on when 07:56.440 --> 07:59.700 in my opinion is the hardest task in all the crypto you guys do realize that 07:59.700 --> 08:04.700 right because you guys are the future of privacy coins you guys are the future 08:04.700 --> 08:09.560 of the type of network that a human person will need when they're most in 08:09.560 --> 08:15.200 need when they're escaping a tyrannical situation when when when things 08:15.200 --> 08:18.960 are hard what hardest in someone's life so like most people don't consider 08:18.960 --> 08:22.940 privacy coins as something that like you know if they have a happy life and 08:22.940 --> 08:27.000 they live in a place that's not tyrannical that's not something that they care 08:27.000 --> 08:31.120 about arguably most people don't care about privacy they're having fun on 08:31.120 --> 08:36.080 Instagram they're having fun on on whatever app you know the book the X 08:36.080 --> 08:42.600 whatever but what's but privacy is for those who need it right it's it's not 08:42.600 --> 08:46.920 you're playing with you're dealing with people's lives here you know so the 08:46.920 --> 08:50.160 fact that you guys are here showing your face says a lot about you and I 08:50.160 --> 08:54.720 want to commend you for doing that I think that's awesome because it is guys 08:54.720 --> 09:01.140 like you who are really giving people hope when they lose hope moving forward 09:01.140 --> 09:09.060 we're in at the cusp of a technocratic dictatorship global tyranny and you're 09:09.060 --> 09:14.060 right Monero is not enough we need more actually everyone in Monero throughout 09:14.060 --> 09:19.880 the history of Monero has always loved Zcash but Zcash has always been kind of 09:20.500 --> 09:26.760 you know questionable being that it comes from a company there's this you know I 09:26.760 --> 09:30.300 mean and the fact that they don't practice what they preach they say they're a 09:30.300 --> 09:35.100 privacy coin but they're not private by default yeah it's optional and it 09:35.100 --> 09:39.260 shouldn't be optional it should be by default ready to go easy to use which 09:39.260 --> 09:44.900 is what you guys do okay now I have a question here that I think everyone here 09:44.900 --> 09:49.200 that's new maybe to this topic of conversation is what is the difference in 09:49.200 --> 09:59.160 cryptography what is the difference between Monero and pirate chain are yeah 09:59.160 --> 10:04.960 well Monero has several different things that they use to gain privacy the 10:04.960 --> 10:09.880 most prominent is ring CT this basically uses obfuscation to bring 10:09.880 --> 10:14.380 privacy they take your transaction they mix it up with 15 decoy transaction to 10:14.380 --> 10:17.700 get a level of privacy they also use some other things like bulletproofs and 10:17.700 --> 10:22.060 stuff which is a type of zero-knowledge proof to gain even more 10:22.060 --> 10:26.020 privacy on the addresses and stuff like that so and this works very well I'm 10:26.020 --> 10:29.220 not trying to diminish them it's the best privacy we had at the time and 10:29.220 --> 10:34.140 it's worked very well it's brought me a ton of privacy and security and it 10:34.140 --> 10:38.240 brings me peace knowing I had had that to use in the past but pirate chain uses 10:38.240 --> 10:42.560 something different called zk snarks which is type of zero-knowledge proof okay 10:42.560 --> 10:47.740 sorry about we use zero-knowledge proofs zk snarks specifically and what 10:47.740 --> 10:51.060 this does is doesn't it we don't need obfuscation we don't need to mix up 10:51.060 --> 10:54.460 transactions on the blockchain because there's absolutely nothing visible on the 10:54.460 --> 10:58.900 blockchain that could compromise your privacy the example that we like to use 10:58.900 --> 11:02.860 a lot is I'm sure most of you are familiar with the wears Waldo books 11:03.320 --> 11:07.140 and they're a big part of my childhood but anyways imagine you have a wears I 11:07.140 --> 11:10.980 have a wears Waldo book and I take a piece of paper and cut a small hole in it and 11:10.980 --> 11:15.080 I take that hole and put it directly over Waldo's head and then I can show you 11:15.080 --> 11:19.040 that book and show you that I know where Waldo is without revealing any 11:19.040 --> 11:22.420 information without actually revealing where he's at or any other information 11:22.420 --> 11:26.920 about Waldo but you can be confident that I truly know where Waldo is now 11:26.920 --> 11:31.640 on the blockchain to bring this back into blockchain this gives you zk 11:31.640 --> 11:36.220 snarks and give you confidence that as a receiver that the coins I'm sending as 11:36.220 --> 11:39.380 a sender are real coins they're not inflated coins that they're on the real 11:39.380 --> 11:43.360 network and zero-knowledge proofs really are incredible technology they give you 11:43.360 --> 11:47.800 the ability to prove something is true without revealing any information about 11:47.800 --> 11:50.900 this this has implications beyond privacy zero-knowledge proofs are 11:50.900 --> 11:54.200 older than blockchain and they're being incorporated into different technologies 11:54.200 --> 11:57.980 more and more and we're going to see them more even outside of blockchain 11:57.980 --> 12:02.240 and it really isn't incredible just think about that for me you can prove 12:02.240 --> 12:06.280 something is true to someone digitally without revealing any information to 12:06.280 --> 12:11.120 them and it's a far more elegant way to find privacy it makes things easier on 12:11.120 --> 12:13.960 the back end we don't have to you know jump through different hoops and make 12:13.960 --> 12:18.380 different changes no from the day we launched our privacy protocol it was 12:18.380 --> 12:21.680 secure there it's been private and it's been secure the entire time 12:21.680 --> 12:25.160 because nothing is revealed on the blockchain with you know other 12:25.160 --> 12:29.400 chains out there they found quirky little ways to you know use malicious nodes or 12:29.400 --> 12:33.800 do other things to compromise the privacy because or to figure out what the real 12:33.800 --> 12:37.780 transactions are on the chain we don't zero-knowledge proofs doesn't have to 12:37.780 --> 12:45.060 worry about that there is nothing revealed on the chain how is pirate 12:45.060 --> 12:51.180 chain going to be measured up against full chain membership proofs so like for 12:51.180 --> 12:56.100 me whenever I hear someone promise something in crypto I use this slang 12:56.100 --> 13:01.040 I think I made it up promise coin right so okay dude you're telling me full chain 13:01.040 --> 13:04.820 memberships proofs are gonna be all this great stuff I don't believe it till I 13:04.820 --> 13:11.840 see it on chain so in a in the hypothetical world once full chain 13:11.840 --> 13:18.260 membership proofs are completely working on Monero are in our like just 13:19.880 --> 13:25.940 working great how would pirate chain fair against Monero's full chain's 13:25.940 --> 13:32.540 membership proofs what are Monero's full chain membership proofs okay so I'm not 13:32.540 --> 13:36.120 quite the expert on full chain membership proofs but they quite yet I've been 13:36.120 --> 13:38.800 researching as much as I can and there's still a few questions that 13:38.800 --> 13:43.420 haven't been made clear to me I have been talking to Kayabe and he's a 13:43.420 --> 13:45.980 busy man though he doesn't have time to just you know message me back 13:45.980 --> 13:49.640 every time I try to talk to him you know from what I understand full chain 13:49.640 --> 13:53.980 membership proofs will basically increase the ring size from 16 to what is 13:53.980 --> 13:57.860 currently now to the ring is basically going to be the entire blockchain is 13:57.860 --> 14:03.460 going to be the ring with all of the outputs making up the anonymity set so 14:03.460 --> 14:07.180 it should be comparable to it should be comparable to pirate chain but like 14:07.180 --> 14:12.420 you said lots of things can happen I'm usually very very skeptical of this 14:12.420 --> 14:16.440 space when somebody a project says they're doing something incredible or 14:16.440 --> 14:19.780 sounds too good to be true I'm always I'm usually like I don't believe you let 14:19.780 --> 14:23.720 me see it when it comes out with this example of full chain membership proofs 14:23.720 --> 14:27.400 just because I know the people working behind it I do have more confidence 14:27.400 --> 14:31.500 that it is going to work and that it's going to come out and do everything 14:31.500 --> 14:34.460 they say it's going to do and it'll pass a peer review process and 14:34.460 --> 14:37.540 everything else so I do have way more confidence in full chain membership 14:37.540 --> 14:41.120 proofs than I do with just any other project out there making promises 14:41.120 --> 14:45.260 just because the people behind it are very very smart and I'm excited about it 14:45.260 --> 14:48.740 I don't see it as competition I see it as making our whole space better so I 14:48.740 --> 14:52.480 think once they have that they will they're claiming that they will have 14:52.480 --> 14:56.320 you know higher anonymity set with us which might be technically true but 14:56.320 --> 15:02.060 once you get to a certain anonymity set the privacy doesn't really increase 15:02.060 --> 15:05.420 that much you have absolute privacy for example like my if I send a 15:05.420 --> 15:09.720 transaction today on pirate chain and then one tomorrow technically the 15:09.720 --> 15:13.100 anonymity set has grown but that does not mean that the transaction I sent 15:13.100 --> 15:16.580 today is less private than the transaction I sent tomorrow there's nothing 15:16.580 --> 15:20.580 revealed on the chain and there's nothing that can be shown the only time 15:20.580 --> 15:25.720 the anonymity set really really matters in that situation is in the early 15:25.720 --> 15:30.400 days as the anonymity set grows it can you know in the first few thousand 15:30.400 --> 15:33.880 transactions or something before you get to a certain point there might be 15:33.880 --> 15:37.180 an argument that the anonymity is not quite as good as when you get up to 15:37.180 --> 15:41.900 you know a million unknown ain't on set but the way zero knowledge proofs works 15:41.900 --> 15:47.340 and on many sets been mostly used in the past to describe obfuscation you know 15:47.340 --> 15:50.480 to scribe off you how much you're obfuscating how many other things 15:50.480 --> 15:53.380 you're mixing it up with but with zero knowledge proofs there's nothing 15:53.380 --> 15:57.940 revealed on the chain so the terms kind of we like to it's an easy way 15:57.940 --> 16:03.200 to convey how incredibly private pirate chain is how incredibly private 16:03.200 --> 16:06.720 Monero is going to be but it's the same thing with Monero they're every 16:06.720 --> 16:10.720 transaction once full chain membership proofs come every transactions gonna grow 16:10.720 --> 16:15.240 the anonymity set but that does not mean one transaction is not as private as 16:15.240 --> 16:18.500 the one that comes after it you are getting absolute privacy no matter what 16:19.780 --> 16:24.600 yeah and and well to add to that I think something has to be said is 16:24.600 --> 16:31.900 that this level of privacy that only pirate chain has has been battle 16:31.900 --> 16:38.680 tested already it's battle tested in the open market and pirate chain has had a 16:38.680 --> 16:44.660 lot of haters which is dumb but and I wanted I want to mention something okay 16:44.660 --> 16:47.860 but I don't want to get into anything I don't want to mention any networks I 16:47.860 --> 16:53.340 just want to say this Monero is the king of the privacy coin sector why 16:53.900 --> 16:59.280 because it is the most secure and why is that's the most pure reviewed it's 16:59.280 --> 17:03.620 the standard so it's not really about the technology but it's the standard in 17:03.620 --> 17:07.860 the maturity of a community that understands the false ethos and that 17:07.860 --> 17:12.800 lives by it and I see you guys really embrace that I've seen you guys when 17:12.800 --> 17:15.360 you guys got started you guys were going really fast you guys were the new 17:15.360 --> 17:18.360 kid on the block you guys were challenged is cool you know but it's time 17:18.360 --> 17:23.420 has gone on and you guys have had the price shot up to what like $16 then 17:23.420 --> 17:27.680 they did a correction that we expected we called it's the only natural and 17:27.680 --> 17:34.000 something shoots up really high of 90% that's normal arguably arguably and this 17:34.000 --> 17:38.600 is tangential it's not healthy for a crypto network to rise in price so fast 17:38.600 --> 17:43.140 as better if there's like a you know to rise slowly kind of like Monero is but 17:43.140 --> 17:48.100 you guys already did that it's just it seems like you guys are like you guys 17:48.100 --> 17:55.140 hit the ground running so fast and and now it's almost like you guys are 17:55.140 --> 18:01.500 entering into an age of maturity that I am loving man I am so fucking I can't 18:01.500 --> 18:04.600 express I was just talking to one of my guys I'm like because I had a 18:04.600 --> 18:08.760 conversation before we got started and the way you guys handled a little 18:08.760 --> 18:15.180 pushback that I did right away I'm like okay these guys are serious these guys 18:15.180 --> 18:19.940 are like these guys been hanging out you guys be you guys I feel Monero 18:19.940 --> 18:26.520 vibes here now I feel Monero vibes here now I really do and and I do that that's 18:26.520 --> 18:30.760 a big compliment because for me going to a Monero conference is like going to a 18:30.760 --> 18:36.180 sacred space going to Monero conference is like is there a why is it sacred 18:36.180 --> 18:40.760 because it's how much they honor the falsethos and I'm seeing that in you 18:40.760 --> 18:46.600 guys you know in a very strong way it was just I feel it it's palpable you 18:46.600 --> 18:51.120 know you guys are not messing around you guys are for real for real for real for 18:51.120 --> 18:57.520 real and so that battle-hardened mindset and the fact that you guys are have like 18:57.520 --> 19:04.140 now adopted that ethos and gives me a lot of confidence and it makes me very 19:04.140 --> 19:10.880 hopeful for the future it really does for the world it makes me very happy so 19:11.540 --> 19:15.480 for every other privacy this is what I was gonna say for every other privacy 19:15.480 --> 19:20.800 coin project out there if you're not willing if you're not gonna offer us the 19:20.800 --> 19:29.600 world something that's better than Monero I'm not gonna waste my time even looking 19:29.600 --> 19:34.600 at you talking to you having a conversation with you even looking in 19:34.600 --> 19:41.600 your direction and I'm not gonna say any names I just don't care like Monero 19:41.600 --> 19:49.860 is the shit and if you're gonna enter into this conversation of privacy coins you 19:49.860 --> 19:57.740 need to bring better technology like and that's all I'm gonna say you know who 19:57.740 --> 20:04.840 this applies to and that's all I'm gonna say right um and and I've challenged 20:04.840 --> 20:10.640 your community in the past and I've been loved and hated in Empire chain in 20:10.640 --> 20:15.260 the past and it's because it comes from a place of love straight up you know I 20:15.260 --> 20:19.020 want the best because this is so important you know this is people's 20:19.020 --> 20:26.000 lives that that this network is really emphasizing so having that said I want 20:26.000 --> 20:29.580 to move into some questions you guys ready yep okay let's let's go into 20:29.580 --> 20:32.680 some questions all right they're getting comfortable here they know the 20:32.680 --> 20:37.140 heat's coming all right let's get the heat going prepare some questions for 20:37.140 --> 20:45.420 you guys here's a biggie you ready here's a biggie all right orchard I've 20:45.420 --> 20:50.060 been hearing a lot about orchard so what's the estimated timeline please 20:50.060 --> 20:54.480 explain what the heck orchard is to begin with to our audience what's orchard 20:54.480 --> 21:04.560 how is it gonna be different on pirate chain then zcash and let's start with 21:04.560 --> 21:10.740 the timeline what is the timeline and estimated completion for the orchard 21:10.740 --> 21:20.240 protocol upgrade who's gonna take this one thanks rough orchard is an 21:20.240 --> 21:27.360 improvement over zcash zcash previously started with Sprout then they went 21:27.360 --> 21:36.460 sapling then they did the orchard in sometime in 2022 so the orchard gives 21:37.440 --> 21:47.220 faster scalable more private and easy to decrypt or not decrypt I'm sorry is it 21:47.220 --> 21:54.360 to process the blockchain and everything while this is also tied to it works 21:54.360 --> 22:00.700 better with the halo to that zcash or zcash did previously people were talking 22:00.700 --> 22:06.560 about the Sprout which was like some people without understanding selling it 22:06.560 --> 22:11.160 is a trusted setup is not good even the here how about we do this let's keep 22:11.160 --> 22:17.220 it even more simple what is the trusted setup and how does orchard solve 22:17.220 --> 22:27.040 that which is a concern for people so in 2018 Zcash did a ceremony it's called 22:27.040 --> 22:35.500 ceremony of Tao where 72 participants participated using their computers to in 22:35.500 --> 22:43.860 that ceremony to make the sapling verification files and without all of 22:43.860 --> 22:50.320 those 72 participants keys you cannot dip it you need to have all of them and 22:50.320 --> 22:55.620 one of those participants were Edward Snowden so I guess I yeah he wouldn't 22:55.620 --> 23:01.820 give his key I believe and 72 wait wait so Edward Snowden was part of the 23:01.820 --> 23:07.320 origins of a pirate chain yeah in a way in a way yes oh shit okay I didn't know 23:07.320 --> 23:13.940 that that's awesome and you know he is one of the best privacy I mean influencer 23:13.940 --> 23:18.180 I would say I would take it with him for that I learned a lot from him no no he 23:18.180 --> 23:25.560 was because Zcash was just like the stocking horse for what the real deal 23:25.560 --> 23:30.500 is so anytime you hear the word Zcash or Z this see that it's really pointing 23:30.500 --> 23:33.960 to the real deal this is what's crazy guys is that the real deal has to 23:33.960 --> 23:40.600 okay it's almost like it's human nature like there's a place where you can only go 23:42.780 --> 23:48.300 it's like swimming right I can only go so far with floaters as a kid but when I 23:48.300 --> 23:52.900 take off the floaters I can dive deep and I can do things I'm here at a 23:52.900 --> 23:57.220 beautiful this is a beautiful like Everglades vibe in Al Capocco there's 23:57.220 --> 24:00.760 alligators here by the way but I can do things I can I can without the 24:00.760 --> 24:07.620 floaters right Zcash is like the floaters of institutional money VCs and all 24:07.620 --> 24:12.400 that BS in order to really go deep with this technology it needs to be grass 24:12.400 --> 24:17.360 roots it needs to be organic it needs to be you know guttural it needs to be 24:17.360 --> 24:22.620 like natural it needs to be grass roots it needs to be embraced by the 24:22.620 --> 24:30.280 people completely in a decentralized open source and you know ground up 24:30.280 --> 24:39.440 way so so yeah we can say that it started off with these people where you 24:39.440 --> 24:43.860 know that were very well intended with these technologies but it really like 24:43.860 --> 24:50.760 blooms here this is where Z addresses this is where a zero knowledge in 24:50.760 --> 24:56.080 crypto is blooming okay sorry to digress there but I need to say that 24:56.080 --> 25:00.800 no that is fine we are just having a I mean the conversation discussion so it's 25:00.800 --> 25:05.060 like information you are saying information that probably I didn't even 25:05.060 --> 25:08.340 hear in the past I didn't have any knowledge of it I'm saying things that 25:08.340 --> 25:15.860 we are sharing and collaborating so yeah with or with the halo to they made 25:15.860 --> 25:19.780 it up in a different way there was no trusted ceremony no trusted setup 25:19.780 --> 25:26.060 everything is decentralized so people who were like spreading for the 25:26.060 --> 25:31.780 about it because in the thought is that you don't know if you can really trust 25:31.780 --> 25:37.360 everyone in the ceremony right okay so orchard does is that it takes away that 25:39.020 --> 25:44.000 dependency on yeah well the thing with the trusted setup you never had to trust 25:44.000 --> 25:47.780 every single one of them just one of them as long as one because basically 25:47.780 --> 25:52.040 they had a really long cryptographic key that was used to start the privacy 25:52.040 --> 25:57.300 pool and as they split it up into 72 pieces gave it to 72 people one of which 25:57.300 --> 26:01.180 was Edward Snowden one was Peter Todd there's a bunch of influential people's 26:01.180 --> 26:05.600 in there as long as one of those people destroyed the keys that privacy pool is 26:05.600 --> 26:09.040 safe I've always been completely confident in it because the way they 26:09.040 --> 26:12.500 did it they live streamed if you guys go and Google the Z ceremony of towel 26:12.500 --> 26:16.900 go look how they did it they did it in credit they were very meticulous about 26:16.900 --> 26:19.920 how they did it they live streamed themselves destroying the keys and 26:19.920 --> 26:24.120 stuff like that then they destroyed the devices that they signed the keys with 26:24.120 --> 26:27.600 to so they destroyed the computers that they used to do this so I've always 26:27.600 --> 26:31.820 been completely confident confident in it what orchard is allowing us to but it's 26:31.820 --> 26:37.200 always been a criticism like what if all 72 people actually colluded what if 26:37.200 --> 26:40.040 it's a very small chance I've never been that concerned about it I've 26:40.040 --> 26:44.720 never been concerned at all as well yeah but but it is a legit I mean it 26:44.720 --> 26:48.960 is a legitimate great is a criticism you know but what we've discovered what 26:48.960 --> 26:53.220 technology has been built since then is a way to launch a privacy pool like that 26:53.220 --> 26:57.840 without that trusted setup so the majority of users moving to orchard 26:57.840 --> 27:01.420 probably won't notice that big of a difference in their usability it does 27:01.420 --> 27:06.420 offer some scalability improvements and the potential to improve like sinking 27:06.420 --> 27:09.540 times in the future but that's a whole nother project these give us the 27:09.540 --> 27:12.740 ability to it the ability to do it but their whole other projects have got 27:12.740 --> 27:16.180 to be built as well as it makes it possible to have multi-sig 27:16.180 --> 27:19.700 addresses which is really really difficult to do on privacy coins but now 27:19.700 --> 27:23.640 we will it's not necessarily going to be implemented as soon as orchard comes out 27:23.640 --> 27:26.460 but orchard gives us the ability to actually build that in the future so 27:26.460 --> 27:29.900 orchard is essentially a new privacy pool that we can launch without those 27:29.900 --> 27:33.260 72 keys because technology has been developed since then that we don't 27:33.260 --> 27:36.760 need that initial cryptographic key to start it does that make sense 27:36.760 --> 27:41.000 perfect so on the timeline what's the timeline for orchard to be 27:41.000 --> 27:47.140 launched okay a lot of projects out there they like they give promises they give 27:47.140 --> 27:51.040 timelines and 90% of the time they don't reach them and it's they have some 27:51.040 --> 27:53.980 benefits to doing that because they announced oh it's coming out in May or 27:53.980 --> 27:57.480 whatever and their price pumps and it doesn't come out in May and it dumps or 27:57.480 --> 28:01.020 whatever we don't like disrespecting our community like that because we want to 28:01.020 --> 28:04.680 make sure we got this thing hammered out perfect before we release it there 28:04.680 --> 28:08.820 so we do not have a timeline all we can say is that it is very close the 28:08.820 --> 28:11.720 core front where it's in testing right now if you're someone that would 28:11.720 --> 28:17.000 actually are interested in testing the the test net you could come talk to us 28:17.000 --> 28:20.920 in discord you might potentially be able to come test it with us and take a 28:20.920 --> 28:24.140 look at it but we're make sure to hammer everything out the core 28:24.140 --> 28:28.300 functionality works right now transactions between sapling to orchard 28:28.300 --> 28:32.320 and orchard to sapling and back are working and so now we're just doing 28:32.320 --> 28:36.660 some usability stuff like that and then hopefully the wallet will have some 28:36.660 --> 28:42.240 like UI updates at the same time that we implement orchard and stuff like that so 28:42.240 --> 28:46.760 we don't like to give a timeline I've you know I I've asked about it and they're 28:46.760 --> 28:49.420 like well I don't I don't know what I'm gonna discover tomorrow so I don't 28:49.420 --> 28:51.780 want to tell you guys it's gonna be two months and then we have to 28:51.780 --> 28:55.080 disappoint our community we also we also don't want to the price to be 28:55.080 --> 29:02.420 manipulated over okay so what ballpark what give me ballpark they might be 29:02.420 --> 29:04.920 mad at me for saying that I think it's good it should be this year though 29:04.920 --> 29:08.840 yeah yeah it should be this year it's testing it's well works right now we 29:08.840 --> 29:11.940 could technically launch it right now but we want to make sure it's all hammered 29:11.940 --> 29:17.220 out yeah for our core developer he's working on it he has made great progress 29:17.220 --> 29:21.940 we have we're running the test net we are testing things so basic core 29:21.940 --> 29:25.740 functions everything is working and Ford is doing his own implementation as well 29:25.740 --> 29:34.900 we'll be doing some custom work on the code so yeah give us some time no no 29:34.900 --> 29:39.680 that's exactly my next question so I've heard that there are new features being 29:39.680 --> 29:46.100 added to orchard in addition to Zcash's implementation of it what are they and 29:46.100 --> 29:53.860 are they being thoroughly tested and peer reviewed yes there there are some 29:53.860 --> 30:00.380 custom implementations in orchard we will not be using the unified pool 30:00.380 --> 30:06.300 there are some other changes that we would not talk about it right now until 30:06.300 --> 30:11.100 we go through more testing and development process because there are 30:11.100 --> 30:16.660 few we get nobody's working on it right now except us so I mean so far I know so 30:16.660 --> 30:20.380 give us some time and we will if you would like I'll give you the exclusive 30:20.380 --> 30:25.920 information when we have more okay okay sounds good so in other words you 30:25.920 --> 30:33.180 guys are paving the way beyond Zcash and I would like and I would like to add and 30:33.180 --> 30:39.800 yeah once so peer review that's a great question a lot of community members and 30:39.800 --> 30:44.400 a lot of different projects answered like you were also asking so if community 30:44.400 --> 30:50.960 think we need a peer review yeah let's talk about it come join in our weekly 30:50.960 --> 30:54.400 meetings or monthly update meetings let's talk about it let's raise some 30:54.400 --> 30:59.880 funds awesome thank you thank you and would you know by whom you guys is there 30:59.880 --> 31:05.980 an idea of who would peer peer reviewed orchard I don't remember I mean we'd 31:05.980 --> 31:10.540 probably go with one of the firms that I've worked in crypto before you know 31:10.540 --> 31:14.240 Monero uses several different ones are individuals in Monero billing stuff on 31:14.240 --> 31:18.500 Monero those would be the first people we would approach and generally they'll 31:18.500 --> 31:21.280 do it because you're just paying them to do it it's a job you know they 31:21.280 --> 31:25.760 don't really have ideological in impressions on they just if you pay 31:25.760 --> 31:30.180 them they'll do it so we would absolutely look for the best people best 31:30.180 --> 31:36.700 cryptographers and people that know zk snarks and no zero knowledge proofs like 31:36.700 --> 31:40.520 he said the peer we're a community project we didn't have an ICO we didn't 31:40.520 --> 31:45.060 have a pre-mine we have no developer fund the way or developer tax I'm sorry 31:45.060 --> 31:49.590 though way we raise money is I mean similar to the Monero community it's 31:49.590 --> 31:53.510 exactly like the Monero community we have a project we want to build we 31:53.510 --> 31:58.490 estimate how much how much it would cost to do it we tell the community hey we 31:58.490 --> 32:01.670 want to build this project or we want to sponsor this event we want to do this 32:01.670 --> 32:04.810 thing we estimate it'll cost this amount of money and the community 32:04.810 --> 32:09.010 donates it together so it ultimately is up to the community the people our 32:09.010 --> 32:12.070 developers aren't paid you know they're working for free they do this 32:12.070 --> 32:15.930 as a passion forage our core developer he was hired to build treasure chest 32:15.930 --> 32:21.030 for us and then he just saw how incredible the technology was and he chose 32:21.030 --> 32:26.270 to stay for free so you know he was paid to come in here to begin with but he's 32:26.270 --> 32:30.410 just stayed and helped us build it which is absolutely incredible it means 32:30.410 --> 32:34.990 incredibly smart guy and we love that he's doing that so we yeah come join us 32:34.990 --> 32:40.110 in the discord telegram come make your voice heard come you know offer some 32:40.110 --> 32:44.450 funds donate some funds to it and let's get this peer reviewed and also to 32:44.450 --> 32:48.810 Monero and Zcash guys I would love your opinion on who the best you know people 32:48.810 --> 32:54.450 to hire to do that is I already have I have some names of firms and individuals 32:55.030 --> 32:59.230 back at you know back on my home computer that I've seen auditing Monero 32:59.230 --> 33:03.710 and Zcash stuff so ultimately those would be our first selections but that is 33:03.710 --> 33:06.790 also up to the community I'd like to get input by the community this isn't 33:06.790 --> 33:10.710 our project we are a team there's no one stopping anybody else from forming 33:10.710 --> 33:15.930 a team and developing on Pyrochain or for you know peer of doing peer review on 33:16.590 --> 33:20.110 Pyrochain and then also I want to point out that ultimately having an open source 33:20.110 --> 33:25.470 code is a type of peer review it's not it's not a substitution for it but it 33:25.470 --> 33:29.310 is a type of peer review it obviously be better if we could get a firm to do it 33:29.310 --> 33:33.730 but yeah come join us in the discord let's raise some funds and let's let's 33:33.730 --> 33:37.850 get us do it you know let's get peer reviewed this so beautiful it's like 33:37.850 --> 33:41.050 so grassroots I love this man you understand bro like I feel like I'm a 33:41.050 --> 33:48.870 fish swimming right now so cool man I'm wow I'm I'm just I'm I'm blessed to be 33:48.870 --> 33:53.110 here with you guys this is this is awesome um alright let's ask some more 33:53.110 --> 34:01.170 um questions here so there is a sense Komodo wallet decks is now 34:01.170 --> 34:08.370 requiring KYC to comply with the new EU crypto regulations what is the 34:08.370 --> 34:13.590 recommended alternative alternative decks for R to avoid KYC for those who 34:13.590 --> 34:24.270 don't want KYC thank you so Komodo is only implementing KYC on their GEY 34:24.270 --> 34:28.270 counterpart that they will release officially by themselves for the 34:28.270 --> 34:32.950 regulation to comply with the regulations so this does not affect us users end 34:32.950 --> 34:39.130 users there is already a comedy comedy edition some comedy members already 34:39.130 --> 34:49.170 released some comedy edition without these KYC requirement you can trade I 34:49.170 --> 34:56.270 mean swap are earned any other coins tokens available in Komodo wallet you 34:56.270 --> 35:02.410 don't have to use Komodo's official wallet for this at all we'll add the link 35:02.410 --> 35:09.250 in the below in the below in the description section or on the screen I 35:09.250 --> 35:12.650 like to add something else so yeah it's a Komodo community edition the wallet 35:12.650 --> 35:18.730 interface looks just like Komodo's does it just doesn't have the KYC on it 35:18.730 --> 35:25.670 and another good thing to point out is the way Komodo wallet works and the 35:25.670 --> 35:29.610 way these white labels or forks if you want to call them of them yeah they're 35:29.610 --> 35:33.230 like forks of them but it's all accessing the same liquidity on the back end 35:33.230 --> 35:36.830 there are many different versions of Komodo wallet that I don't want to go 35:36.830 --> 35:40.150 give other projects promotion out there but there are other projects that have 35:40.150 --> 35:43.510 you know taken the open source code and launched their own version of 35:43.510 --> 35:48.550 Komodo wallet and anybody can do that and they all access the same 35:48.550 --> 35:52.350 liquidity in the back end so if you're doing it on Komodo wallet 35:52.350 --> 35:57.010 community edition you're still you're still accessing the same orders that you 35:57.010 --> 36:00.830 would be on the official Komodo wallet and I know they're getting a lot of I'm 36:00.830 --> 36:04.550 not part of the Komodo team or anything like that but I do want to defend them 36:04.550 --> 36:09.410 slightly there a lot of those guys are you know in places where they are a lot 36:09.410 --> 36:12.290 of the developers for Komodo are in places where they are locking people 36:12.290 --> 36:16.810 up for not doing KYC for developing protocols that aren't KYC so it's easy 36:16.810 --> 36:20.030 for someone like me to criticize them who's not a developer who's not 36:20.030 --> 36:24.630 putting my life on the line to say oh my gosh I can't believe you're doing KYC but 36:25.190 --> 36:28.070 that's a decision I haven't had to make because I'm not any I'm not at any 36:28.070 --> 36:32.570 threat of getting locked up over it so but they have done they've kept their code 36:32.570 --> 36:36.650 open source and they've allowed other people to use it and they've you know 36:36.650 --> 36:40.370 given to support to them and stuff like that so we have the Komodo wallet 36:40.370 --> 36:44.890 community edition it's up on github and it's right it's working right now 36:44.890 --> 36:48.330 you can go use it today we still have non KYC atomic swaps on Komodo 36:48.330 --> 36:52.110 wallet so we'll make sure to give you that link can you post it with this video 36:52.110 --> 36:57.930 okay great okay another question I want to hear you how you guys rebuttal this 36:57.930 --> 37:04.750 one this is a like label it however you want okay but this is this is the 37:04.750 --> 37:11.130 question some people criticize are and say that it was pre-mined or instant 37:11.130 --> 37:16.490 mine because most of the supply of the coins of its coins have already been 37:16.490 --> 37:23.590 mined what is the reason for ours faster coin supply emissions schedule and what is 37:23.590 --> 37:28.050 the best rebuttal to this flood that you guys have curious to see what you guys 37:28.050 --> 37:32.230 think about this oh yeah I've answered this question a million times and so it's 37:32.230 --> 37:35.550 a see I was not an original man I wasn't there on pirate chain launch I 37:35.550 --> 37:39.970 didn't get involved till two years afterwards so I wasn't there when it 37:39.970 --> 37:43.130 launched I'm not some whale that got you know that was mining early and 37:43.130 --> 37:46.570 got a bunch of coins or something like that and this is the foot when I go look 37:46.570 --> 37:50.870 at a crypto project I scrutinize the hell out of it I do not just jump in because 37:50.870 --> 37:54.370 I don't just listen to buzzwords buzzwords in the hype and give them my 37:54.370 --> 37:59.590 support so I before I ever joined the pirate chain community I went and 37:59.590 --> 38:02.710 looked at the arguments against this and then I listened to people from 38:02.710 --> 38:05.690 pirate chain and the community and their arguments and I found the 38:05.690 --> 38:08.550 arguments from the pirate chain team to be more compelling than the other 38:08.550 --> 38:14.210 arguments so basically pirate chain is a fair launch coin we had no ICO no 38:14.210 --> 38:19.010 pre-mine we have no dev tax there was did nobody gave us money to build this 38:19.010 --> 38:23.990 project nobody we didn't promise anybody coins the second we launched like 99 38:23.990 --> 38:27.490 percent of crypto projects do now they all have ICOs the second at launch 38:27.490 --> 38:32.290 coins go to insiders and we didn't do that and because that we were up against 38:32.290 --> 38:35.690 it we did not have the marketing that everybody else does out there we 38:35.690 --> 38:39.170 did not we couldn't just go make a bunch of ads go pay influencers to let them on 38:39.170 --> 38:42.690 their shows because I will tell you guys to get up to get on these big crypto 38:42.690 --> 38:46.830 shows you got to pay them Ron none none like Raphael and TCV we don't pay them 38:46.830 --> 38:51.010 anything that they just they support it they give you a hard time exactly I 38:51.010 --> 38:55.910 know and we opposite yeah we we appreciate it man this is a this is a 38:55.910 --> 38:59.450 kind of thing I want from a you know crypto influencer these are kind of 38:59.450 --> 39:03.930 questions I want to answer so pirate chain launch we had no funds the way 39:03.930 --> 39:08.350 what made pirate chain succeed so much in the early days it made us a successful 39:08.350 --> 39:12.570 project that we are a people were able to hear about is because my mining 39:12.570 --> 39:16.090 product mining pirate chain in the beginning was so profitable the miners 39:16.090 --> 39:20.750 made this project because as soon as pirate chain launch they saw the mining 39:20.750 --> 39:24.590 reward on it and miners flooded in increased our hash rate they spread 39:24.590 --> 39:27.670 the word about it on all the mining websites mining calculator websites 39:27.670 --> 39:31.250 pirate chain shot up to the most profitable so we didn't have an ICO 39:31.250 --> 39:34.630 we didn't have in a marketing fund this was our marketing fund and what's the 39:34.630 --> 39:38.150 ultimate criticism when you say that you know pirate chain what has a fast 39:38.150 --> 39:43.630 emissions rate you're saying that the distribution was not you know fair or 39:43.630 --> 39:47.490 not as good as other communist argument yet that's stupid that's for 39:47.490 --> 39:51.550 anyone doesn't understand capitalism because anyone who anyone that comes 39:51.550 --> 39:55.670 into something early is taking the biggest risk yep exactly it was just 39:55.670 --> 40:00.730 the way life is man tell me man in venture capital it's like one out 40:00.730 --> 40:04.850 of seven businesses make it so you as an investor invest in seven startups one 40:04.850 --> 40:12.030 makes it yeah I mean dude you now dude this is a very beautiful project 40:12.030 --> 40:17.170 exactly and I mean and they and so the Chris so a lot of people say that it 40:17.170 --> 40:22.110 wasn't as distributed as other coins but that's just it's all I mean we have 40:22.110 --> 40:25.430 for a privacy by default coins we don't know how many whales there are or 40:25.430 --> 40:28.710 how much they're holding but I think all evidence indicates that pirate 40:28.710 --> 40:32.730 chain is more in the early days was more distributed than most of the biggest 40:32.730 --> 40:37.850 competing coins and we're 2018 is a very different time from 2014 when Monero 40:37.850 --> 40:41.350 launched a very different time from 2009 when Bitcoin launch how many people 40:41.350 --> 40:45.150 were on that Bitcoin you know cryptography newsletter that heard 40:45.150 --> 40:48.710 about Bitcoin you know it was such a small community and they were 40:48.710 --> 40:52.430 mining all the early coins when pirate chain came there was tens of 40:52.430 --> 40:55.850 millions maybe even in the billions of people already involved in cryptocurrency 40:55.850 --> 41:00.950 that new cryptocurrency so they got so we of course had in the beginning have 41:00.950 --> 41:05.290 more coins available for all all those people to participate in so I think all 41:05.290 --> 41:10.950 the evidence indicates that pirate chain hey you know when we first when we 41:10.950 --> 41:14.930 first launched a create a very organic launch it was in basically in the 41:14.930 --> 41:19.330 Komodo discord there's people saying what if we still we love the CK 41:19.330 --> 41:23.310 CK snarks is so incredible what if we shielded all the transactions would 41:23.310 --> 41:27.110 it work let's try it out let's see if it works and they tried it out and it 41:27.110 --> 41:31.170 worked it was very organic it wasn't the scheme or this plan or something it 41:31.170 --> 41:34.730 just happened and it worked and then kept going with it there was thousands 41:34.730 --> 41:38.010 and thousands of people in this Komodo discord we asked people to come 41:38.010 --> 41:42.750 join our Komodo discord and our Bitcoin talk forum and stuff and 41:42.750 --> 41:45.930 Komodo's Bitcoin talk forum and stuff like that and people didn't come and 41:45.930 --> 41:50.110 join so I'm sorry that you didn't hear about it on day one we didn't 41:50.110 --> 41:54.570 have millions of dollars to go and pay these influencers tell it you know like 41:54.570 --> 41:57.810 I didn't hear about it on day one either you know I didn't hear about Bitcoin on 41:57.810 --> 42:01.870 day one why didn't Satoshi send me a freaking letter tell me about it too man 42:01.870 --> 42:05.330 what the heck yeah so I think if you just look at the numbers the amount of 42:05.330 --> 42:08.090 people involved because the ultimate criticism is that it wasn't as 42:08.090 --> 42:11.710 distributed as other ones and I and I think all the evidence is the opposite 42:11.710 --> 42:15.670 we launched a lot later there was a lot more people involved in the launch 42:15.670 --> 42:19.950 of pirate chain than there was in the launch of Bitcoin or a million other 42:19.950 --> 42:24.670 projects that are bigger than them so I don't see a legitimate criticism to to 42:24.670 --> 42:28.450 that so you want to hear my story I'm a hot came to pirate chain yeah okay cool 42:28.450 --> 42:35.630 so I I was at a I was at the Monero con conference at Casa de Monero in Denver 42:35.630 --> 42:40.970 Colorado with Sunita and Doug Tumen we and I was one of the hosts well they 42:40.970 --> 42:44.750 were the main hosts of the house but I was there and then there was a there 42:44.750 --> 42:53.990 was the it was myself I took a friend there's five people at that house as the 42:53.990 --> 43:01.890 host and the third person was need money 90 if you guys he's og of Monero 43:03.510 --> 43:09.350 moderator and so it was us five and someone came to the house who I was 43:09.350 --> 43:13.650 really cool I started talking to this person and they told me look we just 43:13.650 --> 43:19.770 launched a project not too much long ago as a experiment out of the Komodo you 43:19.770 --> 43:25.890 know infrastructure is an experiment to do to create what we always wanted Z 43:25.890 --> 43:30.290 cash to be and I'm like no what what dude that was my intro to it it was at 43:30.290 --> 43:39.070 Monero conference yeah it was a I guess the name of the dev was pirate 43:39.070 --> 43:46.610 Jane so bless her you know she's cool so shout out to pirate Jane you got me and 43:46.610 --> 43:55.530 into his most amazing network blessing to you and so that's my story and and then 43:56.090 --> 44:01.670 I presented this to my biz partners at at the Crypto Vigilante and it took a 44:01.670 --> 44:08.510 year of research bro a rear a year of research like especially mr. X 72 page 44:08.510 --> 44:13.450 report yeah the 72 page report yeah something similar that was a quite long 44:13.450 --> 44:22.750 report I I skim few pages but I read it yeah so it was it because most of my 44:22.750 --> 44:31.170 guys most of the analysts at TC VR come from like Monero maximalism and Monero 44:31.170 --> 44:37.850 extremists I guess sorry we got interrupted there for a second and yeah 44:37.850 --> 44:42.590 they were very they were very you know because this is a big deal again guys 44:42.590 --> 44:50.530 we're dealing with it's is not a meme coin I guess pirates are cool memes but it's 44:50.530 --> 44:54.310 it's a cryptocurrency and it's beyond a cryptocurrency it's what many thought 44:54.310 --> 44:58.870 Bitcoin was supposed to be and then later on what many thought Z cash was 44:58.870 --> 45:04.210 going to deliver the market this is the purest of networks that embraces 45:04.210 --> 45:11.810 zero knowledge proofs the most advanced form of cryptography for privacy on the 45:11.810 --> 45:16.390 internet for financial privacy on the internet so it's a it's a it's this is 45:16.390 --> 45:20.590 like yeah dude I'm really honored to be here with you guys you I don't think you 45:20.590 --> 45:27.790 guys realize because these guys these guys are these guys are grassroots and 45:27.790 --> 45:31.270 they have very much of an activist vibe to them but I don't I don't think 45:31.270 --> 45:34.530 they realize how big of a deal this network is I don't think you guys 45:34.530 --> 45:39.010 realize how big of a deal you guys are and it's probably because you guys are 45:39.010 --> 45:45.770 so caught up in your work and you guys you know you guys should expect a lot of 45:45.770 --> 45:52.130 haters all of Silicon Valley wants to give the world a fake version of what 45:52.130 --> 45:56.230 you guys are giving the world like there is a project called I think iron fish 45:56.230 --> 45:59.730 or some bullshit like that that was like a fake version of pirate chain 45:59.730 --> 46:04.010 calling it was funded by VCs like can you imagine that 46:06.810 --> 46:14.210 but you guys are pure and and and that purity puts you guys in a in a very 46:14.210 --> 46:22.410 unique place even when Roger there had his interview with with Tucker Carlson 46:22.410 --> 46:33.150 he he didn't say pirate chain but he said you know z coins a lot of it has to do 46:33.150 --> 46:36.990 because I think Roger's also has some business partnerships with digital 46:36.990 --> 46:41.710 currency group maybe I don't know maybe I'm speculating here or maybe he just 46:41.710 --> 46:47.650 doesn't know about it but this is the z coin this is the zero knowledge coin 46:47.650 --> 46:55.750 um so yeah so let me ask you a question that maybe a lot of people wanted me 46:55.750 --> 47:01.470 wanted me to ask that are new to privacy so how does a pirate chain mitigate how 47:01.470 --> 47:06.250 does it assure that there can't be an inflation bug being that it is your 47:06.250 --> 47:15.810 knowledge proof wants to take this question we knew about a bug that was 47:15.810 --> 47:21.490 notified to pirate team it came from z cache when they found out about the bug 47:21.490 --> 47:29.070 that had it in sprout so there was that that was only on sprout sapling didn't 47:29.070 --> 47:33.130 have any bug nobody could find it it's been on the market I mean it's been 47:33.130 --> 47:38.750 live and been being used for many years now but there there is no bug found 47:38.750 --> 47:43.010 in sapling nothing in order yet but sprout when we did the one time 47:43.010 --> 47:49.890 migration from sprout to sapling we had a system to monitor and check every single 47:50.490 --> 47:55.730 coin that was mined since day one and the amount that was transferred via going 47:55.730 --> 48:00.710 via to uh from sprout to a transparent address to a z address every coin was 48:00.710 --> 48:08.090 counted when it went through when it migrated from sprout to sapling so 48:08.090 --> 48:15.350 we knew there was no extra coin minted basically the bug that z cache found and 48:15.350 --> 48:19.490 fixed it didn't have long time and it was very I mean it's not like everybody 48:19.490 --> 48:23.850 could exploit that bug not everybody is capable of exploiting 48:23.850 --> 48:30.690 everything bug anyway but yeah we had a system making sure that nobody has 48:30.690 --> 48:37.030 taken advantages of that bug awesome awesome also the way it's 48:37.470 --> 48:42.510 in or audited in real time is the coin on pirate chain the coin based transaction 48:42.510 --> 48:46.750 is the the only transparent transactions are pirate chain or the coin based 48:46.750 --> 48:52.990 transaction the transaction from uh the miner am I getting that wrong uh no you 48:52.990 --> 48:57.310 are right but it's not only so all the coin based rewards are 48:57.310 --> 49:00.910 transparent address that's how it's uh we can audit how many coins were 49:00.910 --> 49:06.190 mined in its entire existence of like how many as per the blocks there 49:06.750 --> 49:11.970 two more types of transparent transaction we do one of them is to increase the 49:11.970 --> 49:15.910 security that was done with komodo's delayed proof of work so it was like 49:15.910 --> 49:19.690 few days later the party was launched it was like straight away secured with 49:19.690 --> 49:24.010 delayed proof of work that was needed an exception needed to be added to allow 49:24.010 --> 49:28.170 all 64 notary notary addresses to use transparent address because they cannot use 49:28.910 --> 49:32.550 private address because private address the transaction we cannot verify 49:32.550 --> 49:35.150 whether the checkpoint was is in there or not because 49:35.150 --> 49:39.630 z transaction doesn't have any information in them so there is no way to 49:39.630 --> 49:43.830 validate or verify that it was really done so this is one of the exception 49:44.490 --> 49:49.010 couple of years ago we added another exception now this time was to allow 49:49.010 --> 49:56.730 atomic swap to happen the atomic swap the barter decks atomic decks komodo 49:56.730 --> 50:01.350 wallet as we call it right now the development started a long long time ago 50:01.350 --> 50:04.870 by jl777 but it was working with all transparent 50:05.610 --> 50:10.530 coins and even ethereum tokens now they have added even more but we didn't have 50:10.530 --> 50:15.890 pirate chain so for this pirate chain we had to add an another exception for 50:17.130 --> 50:22.350 only for a single swap there will be unique address generated that is pay to 50:22.350 --> 50:28.330 script hash we call it p2sh addresses they start with b they're unique and only 50:28.330 --> 50:33.850 one time use each time so for temporary few blocks the coins from a z address 50:33.850 --> 50:37.110 will go to that b address which is the pay to script hash 50:38.530 --> 50:43.070 it will sit there that's like a transparent transaction and then nobody has the private 50:43.070 --> 50:48.510 key of it like user one of the user partially cannot have the full private key so both of 50:48.510 --> 50:56.230 the users it is created automatically but anyway once those swap completes those funds goes into 50:56.230 --> 51:03.350 z address and that is it so two exceptions and coinbase so three types of transparent addresses 51:03.990 --> 51:09.750 so it's uh yeah so there is and these are exceptions that a user can't really act well if 51:09.750 --> 51:12.970 you're a miner you'll receive that first if you guys aren't familiar with a coinbase 51:12.970 --> 51:19.010 transaction is that's a reward a miner gets from mining so that first uh transaction to the miner 51:19.010 --> 51:23.890 is transparent so you can go and verify how many coins have been minted on there 51:23.890 --> 51:31.930 I would like to add another thing a lot of people I heard uh even they asked me questions in different 51:31.930 --> 51:38.350 places like does it not decrease the privacy allowing atomic swap transactions to go through 51:39.090 --> 51:44.290 transparent address and z address again no in a way because it's unique address you cannot 51:44.290 --> 51:49.350 correlate every single atomic dex transaction by using one b address because it's unique each 51:49.350 --> 51:58.550 time for each swap it same address never been used now it goes on so when the funds for a swap 51:58.550 --> 52:04.030 goes from z address z address to our address or transparent address the anonset decreases a bit 52:04.030 --> 52:10.010 but when it goes back to z address again it's there so literally nothing happens so these 52:10.010 --> 52:15.370 you cannot I mean show me you can link directly a transfer I will I mean I will do some 52:15.930 --> 52:23.550 swaps and if you can link them directly then let's talk but until you link them there is no 52:23.550 --> 52:29.330 way I mean we don't see any way that it's decreasing the anonymity set or the privacy or the security 52:29.330 --> 52:36.950 of the chain but this is to allow users an extra thing that wasn't possible before this is to give 52:36.950 --> 52:42.750 you a feature so always when you try to do something that has to be a little bit of compromise 52:42.750 --> 52:49.150 if not more so we try to minimize it within the technology I mean with the technology that is 52:49.150 --> 52:55.270 currently available to us so this is the route we could take if we had different technology 52:55.790 --> 52:59.490 better technology to implement this of course we would have done that 53:01.270 --> 53:07.210 so I just wanted to add this option so nothing to worry about it yeah thank you for that 53:07.210 --> 53:13.950 thorough very thorough explanation really appreciate it um I wish we had an audience so 53:13.950 --> 53:18.990 people can ask you more questions directly did you guys give us talk at an archipelago 53:19.730 --> 53:25.510 I did a crypto show I'll use the crypto show crypto show with Francesco people knows him as 53:25.510 --> 53:31.230 also our critic minor from Monera and Danny from Dragon egg the crypto show he was the host 53:31.230 --> 53:39.210 so I'm from I mean I was ripping pirate uh Francesco was doing Monera so that was a good talk 53:39.210 --> 53:47.830 one hour long pretty good a lot of technical talks we did as I said like I love Monera too I help them 53:47.830 --> 53:53.850 like with I help with Seri desks Seri desks dude that is so badass man congrats man and thank you 53:53.850 --> 53:59.970 thank you for doing that like um that's so cool dude yeah he's testing Seri desks for Luke 53:59.970 --> 54:06.990 yeah he's helping Luke uh Kibaya nerve I always have trouble pronouncing him he's testing Seri desks 54:06.990 --> 54:10.670 with him right now we have good relationships with the people in them we're all trying to fight for 54:10.670 --> 54:16.170 the same thing yeah he did the podcast and then Amy and I gave a presentation about pirate jamie 54:16.170 --> 54:21.150 did just a short little overview of what it was and then I did a whole ethos of freedom and 54:21.150 --> 54:27.230 privacy kind of things that was the right kind of crowd for that excuse me man coffee wearing me 54:27.230 --> 54:35.190 out sweating out the coffee um but dude um there's just so much we can talk about here but here I think 54:35.190 --> 54:43.350 let's let's like tour you know let's let's um let's move on to talk about something that is not 54:43.350 --> 54:50.470 as apparent but arguably is the most important and something that we've learned kind of like the 54:50.470 --> 54:59.510 hard way um which is that what matters most in crypto not just in crypto but in order for the 55:00.110 --> 55:06.730 for the for a va for the a project to grow especially for an important project to grow 55:06.730 --> 55:12.710 you need for it to grow in and market size so it invites more people to peer review 55:12.710 --> 55:19.570 and important projects such as a pirate chain so you invite more developers to work on it right 55:19.570 --> 55:25.670 to get more attention okay so what what liquidity channels do you guys have right now 55:26.520 --> 55:32.770 on what exchanges can you find a pirate chain what is the future of liquidity looking like for pirate 55:32.770 --> 55:42.190 chain um right now the the most liquidity is on mexy mexy and trade ogre that they have both 55:42.190 --> 55:47.170 support is greatly obviously a pirate chain team does not endorse any exchange either 55:47.170 --> 55:51.110 those two have treated us well so far but then there's been other exchanges in the past that 55:51.110 --> 55:56.290 treated us well and then delisted us and took money from our customers our users and stuff like that 55:56.290 --> 56:00.930 by not giving them enough time to withdraw and stuff and so it is a battle now for pirate 56:00.930 --> 56:04.930 chain and minaret to get on they don't want to touch privacy coins even though it's not 56:04.930 --> 56:08.710 illegal in the u.s. I don't understand why Coinbase isn't listing them especially 56:08.710 --> 56:14.050 since donald trump is basically signal it's a wild west for crypto now you know he's releasing 56:14.050 --> 56:18.490 his own project so it's quite apparent that it should be legal at least in the u.s. you 56:18.490 --> 56:24.250 europe's a different story so but they don't want to list us for fear of future regulatory 56:24.870 --> 56:28.490 regulatory problems because they can't tell where the funds are coming from they can't prove 56:28.490 --> 56:33.070 that it wasn't used in you know terrorism or anything like that so the biggest exchanges 56:33.070 --> 56:37.610 out there won't list minaret they won't list pirate chain it's truly and this is where our 56:37.610 --> 56:42.330 fight is really on like we're it's to fight to get more liquidity there have been a few 56:42.330 --> 56:48.270 other smaller exchanges that have listed us in the last year uh non-kyc is one i encourage you 56:48.270 --> 56:52.210 guys to go check out that one like i said we don't endorse any of them you're get these are banks 56:52.210 --> 56:57.530 these are crypto exchanges a crypto bank you're giving them the coins you know so uh but that 56:57.530 --> 57:01.530 so we don't encourage you to leave coins on any exchange but there have been several smaller 57:01.530 --> 57:06.670 ones have popped up and guys if you're out there trading on something like i mean if you're 57:06.670 --> 57:12.630 using binance or something that delisted minaret uh why are you and you're a minaret head 57:12.630 --> 57:16.150 why are you supporting them there's exchanges out there that have very good liquidity like if 57:16.150 --> 57:20.490 you're a binance user max c has really good liquidity and they're supporting us stop feeding 57:20.490 --> 57:24.150 like the beast that doesn't want you to be a part of it so don't even if you're buying other 57:24.150 --> 57:28.990 coins other than well you're not buying minaret on binance because they delisted it 57:28.990 --> 57:33.930 but why use binance at all they slapped us in the face and said they don't care about 57:33.930 --> 57:38.090 privacy and they don't care about freedom they don't care about sovereignty so go and support 57:38.090 --> 57:43.630 the exchanges that do don't leave your coins on any of them always pull out always pull out after 57:43.630 --> 57:50.950 sex like i like to say s e x or c e x sorry but yeah you go and uh go and use these exchange 57:50.950 --> 57:57.170 yeah there you go sorry bad joke but uh go and uh go and support these exchanges that don't 57:57.170 --> 58:04.330 so that uh do uh respect our privacy and respect not you know having no kyc on them go to pirate 58:04.330 --> 58:09.650 chain.com uh slash exchanges there's all the exchanges we're listed on and then try the 58:09.650 --> 58:14.810 atomic swaps too atomic swaps you know are the future if we do really go into like technocratic 58:14.810 --> 58:18.670 future where they're cracking down on the use of these kind of atomic swaps are going to be 58:18.670 --> 58:22.870 essential so we'll learn how to use them and go check them out and seven support exchanges 58:22.870 --> 58:27.270 that are supporting us stop giving your money to exchanges that don't support us you know 58:28.450 --> 58:39.510 cool okay so in the area of marketing getting out there and um you know the the crypto world 58:39.510 --> 58:46.730 right now is saturated with meme coins and the idea that utility doesn't matter 58:47.440 --> 58:54.070 i think that that is honestly dying as we're talking like that whole the stupidity you know 58:55.130 --> 59:01.890 vibe is dying and people are reconnecting back to things that matter so 59:03.890 --> 59:13.170 um how do you guys plan on tackling that aspect the pr aspect the the the memetic aspect of of 59:13.170 --> 59:19.370 pirate chain i guess yeah i guess that's probably my department here um what we're trying to focus on 59:19.370 --> 59:24.450 right now is getting merchants to accept pirate chain and getting people to start using it and 59:24.450 --> 59:28.410 when arrow two all the privacy coins start using alternatives to fiat you know we have 59:28.410 --> 59:33.530 alternatives to fiat out there that work fiat is the it's the food that feeds the beast 59:33.530 --> 59:38.090 you know it's what they use to psi up you it's what they use to fund wars and stuff like 59:38.090 --> 59:41.890 that if you're a merchant out there and you believe in freedom and sovereignty start 59:41.890 --> 59:46.590 using alternatives to fiat and that's what we're really trying to push right now 59:46.590 --> 59:51.570 merchants like yeah it's great if we get some investor to come you know speculate on pirate 59:51.570 --> 59:55.070 chain and buy a bunch of it or something like that that's not what we're really looking for 59:55.070 --> 59:59.410 we want to increase the liquidity of pirate chain by having more and more merchants 59:59.410 --> 01:00:03.390 that are accepting it so people are buying the pirate chain to go and buy stuff from those 01:00:03.390 --> 01:00:09.610 merchants to actually do commerce and something you talk about a lot is kind of embracing 01:00:09.610 --> 01:00:14.530 the meme you know i've heard i think it was at uh nonsense this or something like that you uh 01:00:14.530 --> 01:00:18.790 gave a president a great presentation by the way too hilarious he's ever if you guys haven't seen 01:00:18.790 --> 01:00:23.470 him speak live he does uh he does great in these videos but he's also very great alive 01:00:23.470 --> 01:00:29.150 and embracing you know the meme we're a very serious project so as a team we're not trying 01:00:29.150 --> 01:00:33.290 to meme but we'd like our community to meme you know it obviously gets people excited it 01:00:33.290 --> 01:00:38.190 pakes people funny uh it's actually a great way to tackle like serious issues sometimes the 01:00:38.190 --> 01:00:42.570 best way to criticize these tyrants is to make fun of them you know so use pirate to 01:00:42.570 --> 01:00:47.270 make fun of them we have a very memeable name and pirate better more memeable than most of them 01:00:47.270 --> 01:00:50.970 but it's not supposed to be a joke we call ourselves pirates for a reason it's because 01:00:50.970 --> 01:00:55.230 of people this is why i touched on him in my presentation yesterday we call ourselves pirates 01:00:55.230 --> 01:00:59.630 so that people will know from the minute they hear our name what we're about we're not 01:00:59.630 --> 01:01:03.650 going to compromise we're not going to submit to these tyrants we're going to keep fighting 01:01:03.650 --> 01:01:09.370 till our last breath to have privacy decentralization and sovereignty and that's why we call ourselves 01:01:09.370 --> 01:01:14.510 pirates we want people to know that we are different we're not going to go you know submitting to 01:01:14.510 --> 01:01:19.030 black rock or making changes to our protocol so that black rock will give us an etf or so 01:01:19.030 --> 01:01:23.690 PayPal will incorporate us stuff like we're taking the difficult road we are fighting against them 01:01:23.690 --> 01:01:27.370 we're not trying to get them to take our you know invest in us and take our mind we are 01:01:27.370 --> 01:01:31.810 trying to get the people the free people of the world to start using these options and 01:01:31.810 --> 01:01:36.170 that's what we want people to know when they hear pirates we are pirates we are not submitting we're 01:01:36.170 --> 01:01:40.930 not complying we're doing this the right way absolute decentralization absolute privacy 01:01:40.930 --> 01:01:46.590 so join the memeing we do have some new marketing people we actually have a guy who's been working 01:01:46.590 --> 01:01:51.430 in a for marketing firms really high up marketing firms for years this career is in marketing 01:01:51.430 --> 01:01:57.330 and he's helping us now you know doing a rebranding and showing us like more professional 01:01:57.330 --> 01:02:01.270 ways of doing things so we're really excited to have him on but guys come and join us in 01:02:01.270 --> 01:02:05.330 the discord this is a community this isn't our prod just our project this is everyone's project 01:02:05.330 --> 01:02:09.950 come be a part of it we're only powerful as you as our community is and you guys are the 01:02:09.950 --> 01:02:14.170 community come show up that's how we really make a difference come show up and be part of 01:02:14.170 --> 01:02:18.470 something meaningful we're doing something important here and you have a chance to do 01:02:18.470 --> 01:02:21.950 something to make the world a better place for your children and your grandchildren 01:02:21.950 --> 01:02:26.650 something when you're on your deathbed in 50 or 90 years that you'll be able to look back 01:02:26.650 --> 01:02:31.910 and say I showed up and I helped and I fought and I was a part of this and when we succeed you can 01:02:31.910 --> 01:02:37.090 feel the pride that you were part of that and that you made it happen so let's come join us this 01:02:37.090 --> 01:02:41.790 is a community marketing campaign go get your friends to download wallets send them a pirate 01:02:41.790 --> 01:02:46.150 chain transaction show them how quick and cheap it is one minute block times less than a penny 01:02:47.110 --> 01:02:51.250 unstoppable absolute privacy that's the best way to turn people on to it go get them to 01:02:51.250 --> 01:02:54.810 download a wallet and do a pirate chain transaction with them give them one pirate 01:02:54.810 --> 01:03:00.490 chain it doesn't cost you that much and that's how you show them that that's how you market to them 01:03:00.490 --> 01:03:03.450 that's how you show them that we're different we're not just trying to get you to buy it and 01:03:03.450 --> 01:03:08.870 leave it on exchange hope the number goes up show them how well it works for in-person transactions 01:03:08.870 --> 01:03:13.170 or for you know face-to-face transactions or online transactions we're on the other side 01:03:13.170 --> 01:03:18.090 of the world and we are increasing increasing our market adoption we got over the last few 01:03:18.090 --> 01:03:22.170 months I guess it's been a good six months we got accepted on a couple new services like 01:03:22.170 --> 01:03:29.370 Trocador their big supporters of Monero and Monazon Monazon is a service where you can 01:03:29.370 --> 01:03:36.090 basically order from Amazon with pirate chain it's uh or it's so basically yeah it's really cool go 01:03:36.090 --> 01:03:40.290 check out Monazon they got other coins too yeah basically what happens is they have 01:03:40.290 --> 01:03:45.990 full fillers too you can become a full filler to earn money this way so if uh you just pick 01:03:45.990 --> 01:03:50.410 what you want on on Amazon through their you know portal through their website and 01:03:50.410 --> 01:03:56.130 basically someone else makes the order for you you pay them in pirate chain they pay Amazon in 01:03:56.130 --> 01:04:01.570 dollars and then they have it shipped to an Amazon box have you seen those boxes outside of super 01:04:01.570 --> 01:04:05.330 marks and stuff like that believe that's what they're called Amazon boxes and they have them 01:04:05.330 --> 01:04:09.370 shipped to that they're like lockers yeah Amazon lockers that's what it's called and they're 01:04:09.370 --> 01:04:12.210 shipped there and so you don't have to give your home address or anything you can buy 01:04:12.210 --> 01:04:17.050 stuff off Amazon right now have it shipped to an Amazon locker and get it without giving 01:04:17.050 --> 01:04:21.370 your name your address or any information like that so basically you can buy anything you want with 01:04:21.370 --> 01:04:28.170 uh you you know anonymously and anonymously wow and if you want to make because there is a fee 01:04:28.170 --> 01:04:31.690 on top of that and if you want to be a full filler the person ordering for people obviously 01:04:31.690 --> 01:04:35.070 you get rid of all your privacy you don't get any privacy doing that but you can make a 01:04:35.070 --> 01:04:39.230 little money being a full filler with that so go to monazon.com I believe and then also 01:04:39.230 --> 01:04:44.550 Trocador which is a place you can buy gift cards and stuff like that so there's new services 01:04:44.550 --> 01:04:48.510 coming and joining and asking us we didn't go pay these guys or anything they just saw the power 01:04:48.510 --> 01:04:52.910 of privacy and they wanted uh power of pirate chains privacy and they wanted us on their service 01:04:52.910 --> 01:04:57.150 so yeah Trocador monazon any merchants out there if you need help onboarding on the 01:04:57.150 --> 01:05:00.830 pirate chain reach out to me that's what we're trying to do this is a peer-to-peer currency 01:05:00.830 --> 01:05:05.170 made for doing commerce so let's do some commerce with it and let's you know change the world with 01:05:05.170 --> 01:05:13.030 it that's beautiful is there anything else you would like to say and by the way I never 01:05:13.030 --> 01:05:19.690 introduced you or you on purpose I did that on purpose and an enmity you guys have to figure 01:05:19.690 --> 01:05:23.310 out who they are if you really want to know who they are but I'm not going to introduce them to you 01:05:23.310 --> 01:05:27.750 unless you guys want to introduce yourselves but whatever I'm well I'm more of the guy going 01:05:27.750 --> 01:05:32.190 out in public talking to people and doing the monthly updates anyone that and uh going to 01:05:32.190 --> 01:05:35.790 events and stuff like that it's a very special case that he came out with us this time 01:05:35.790 --> 01:05:41.370 but my I'm Daniel I'm Dejohn's on discord telegram and other places anyone in the pirate 01:05:41.370 --> 01:05:45.150 community I'm sure knows me I'm on there every single day I'm the one that does the monthly 01:05:45.150 --> 01:05:49.090 updates host the community calls and stuff like that so I'd love you guys to come and 01:05:49.090 --> 01:05:54.590 join me in the community we do community calls every sunday at 1 p.m. eastern time in the U.S. 01:05:54.630 --> 01:05:59.330 we get on there we talk about everything that's where we organize with the community we get ideas 01:05:59.330 --> 01:06:05.290 and and just and we sometimes we talk about other things too it's our community we just 01:06:05.290 --> 01:06:08.550 that's where we join as a community I really encourage people to come join us on those 01:06:08.550 --> 01:06:13.970 calls and I'm the one leading it there so if you're in businesses out there merchants out there 01:06:14.450 --> 01:06:17.950 anyone interested in business development or something like that I'm the person you can 01:06:17.950 --> 01:06:23.350 reach out to there on discord or telegram I'm the Johns or we have our emails up on our website 01:06:23.350 --> 01:06:27.530 you can reach out to us through there so come and join us guys be a part of something meaningful 01:06:27.530 --> 01:06:31.510 let's let's make the world a more peaceful and prosperous place using this incredible 01:06:31.510 --> 01:06:36.990 technology hey guys this was a pirate chain conversation my timer is running out 01:06:37.710 --> 01:06:44.750 and we're just a go learn about it peace love anarchy that's it guys thank you now we are dealing with 01:06:44.750 --> 01:06:51.510 a possible world war some will say we are already in a world war my condolences and prayers go out 01:06:51.510 --> 01:06:57.030 to everyone suffering under tyranny it really sucks I'm really sorry but it seems as if people 01:06:57.030 --> 01:07:02.050 are starting to wake up regarding crypto more and more each day and so it's in the description 01:07:02.050 --> 01:07:07.290 right here to read where we give our secret sauce and what we teach our subscribers because 01:07:07.290 --> 01:07:11.910 things are just that bad you know everyone needs this information people need to know about 01:07:11.910 --> 01:07:18.470 sound cryptocurrencies that are actually private by default and to know how to properly use crypto