WEBVTT 00:01.170 --> 00:04.730 The spirit of this revolution is not going away. 00:04.910 --> 00:10.950 This is the Ron Paul Liberty Report with Ron Paul, Daniel McAdams, and Chris Rossini. 00:11.310 --> 00:17.250 We're all ambassadors of the Ron Paul doctrine, and it's absurd. Just tell the truth. 00:17.470 --> 00:22.270 An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government. 00:34.530 --> 00:38.630 Hello, everybody, and thank you for tuning in to the Liberty Report. 00:39.310 --> 00:45.050 With us today, we have Chris Rossini, our co-host. Chris, welcome to the program. 00:45.370 --> 00:46.790 Great to be with you again, Dr. Paul. 00:47.210 --> 00:53.950 Very good. I guess we'll key in on a subject that's been around, and we're trying to figure it out. 00:54.650 --> 00:59.950 It's hard to figure it out because the people who are running this war, they haven't even figured it out yet, 01:00.430 --> 01:07.750 and nobody has explained to us yet why we're in this war, and nobody's explained to us how we're going to get out of this war. 01:07.750 --> 01:09.810 We're just wondering, who's in charge? 01:11.290 --> 01:19.170 Right now, I think it might be the war machine, the people who make profits. 01:19.710 --> 01:23.990 Maybe it's that group of people who behind the scenes pull the strings. 01:24.430 --> 01:31.490 But anyway, in the news, we hear things about the leader of Israel, the leader of the United States, 01:31.490 --> 01:38.630 and that, of course, is Trump and Netanyahu, and there was a lot of talk before the bombs started falling, 01:38.830 --> 01:45.670 and we hoped they wouldn't fall, told people why it shouldn't be falling, and yet they still did. 01:46.310 --> 01:51.130 And now they're talking about, now we're getting mixed signals, believe it or not, mixed signals. 01:51.470 --> 01:55.210 We've had a couple before, but today, they're pretty important, 01:55.210 --> 02:06.130 because it seems like the two that can thrive to have this war, Netanyahu and Trump, aren't on the same page all the time, 02:07.590 --> 02:16.030 and it looks to me on the surface, of course I don't know, it just seems like Trump maybe haven't enough of this war. 02:16.590 --> 02:22.070 Maybe reality is setting in, maybe he realizes that we're running out of money, 02:22.070 --> 02:32.670 maybe that things aren't going exactly as they planned, and maybe sanctions and tariffs and printing money is not the answer to our problems. 02:33.310 --> 02:41.390 So now, Chris, I think we have to sort of discuss and give us an opinion, because it's so difficult, 02:42.010 --> 02:46.690 and it is, and I'm sure the American people are running out, who's in charge? 02:46.690 --> 02:53.190 You know, well, why don't you look at the record, and why don't you look at our Constitution? 02:53.750 --> 03:02.110 And on our side, the people are in charge, and if it has a war issue, the people, they get to know their congressman, 03:02.270 --> 03:08.730 and then if there's a debate on the war, they urge their congressman to support a debate on the war, 03:08.950 --> 03:11.530 and explain to the people what's going on. 03:11.530 --> 03:18.510 So I think they skipped that part. I think that's one of our pros, Chris, is that hasn't happened, 03:18.810 --> 03:28.370 but now I think there's this effort, they've had enough just for a day that they don't talk about Ukraine anymore. 03:28.510 --> 03:34.190 They got tired of it, they sort of welcomed the distraction, and yet nothing really changed in Ukraine. 03:34.470 --> 03:39.470 I mean, the problems are still there, but they quit because of fatigue. 03:39.470 --> 03:44.570 And right now, I sense that the fatigue has already set in, which is good news. 03:44.750 --> 03:50.130 It didn't take a whole long, you know, a long time, but there's still a lot of danger ahead. 03:50.310 --> 03:53.530 How's this going to happen? And the big question is, who's boss? 03:53.950 --> 03:59.310 And I'd like to see what you think about that. Do you know who's boss? 04:00.090 --> 04:07.070 I do not, but I do know that Trump's first year, last year, the warning signs were there. 04:08.470 --> 04:13.970 Netanyahu visited a record number of times. I believe it was close to, like, once every two months, 04:14.190 --> 04:17.610 which on the surface, you know, if you're going to make America great again, 04:17.730 --> 04:23.230 why is a prime minister from any country coming here once every two months? 04:23.390 --> 04:29.670 It wasn't just that, though. It was like a revolving door of our government officials going to Israel. 04:29.750 --> 04:34.130 There's always somebody there going to the wall, doing what they do. 04:34.130 --> 04:39.970 There was the sneak attacks. They bombed peace negotiations. 04:40.410 --> 04:43.970 I mean, I can't believe my country takes part in that. 04:44.690 --> 04:50.930 So here we are, beginning of year two, and the fruits are starting to come out. 04:51.050 --> 04:56.050 And they are rotten fruits. You know, we are again in the Middle East war 04:56.050 --> 05:01.310 with a president that was voted not to do this and spoke out against it. 05:01.310 --> 05:09.710 And here he is saying that he did it because he felt that Israel was going to be attacked. 05:10.150 --> 05:14.290 That is not how you go to war in America, you know. 05:14.370 --> 05:18.030 But again, maybe it is how we go to war ever since World War II. 05:18.190 --> 05:22.030 Congress has been gone, not part of the equation. 05:23.190 --> 05:27.130 And Trump uses, you know, they make joint decisions. 05:27.130 --> 05:34.830 I believe yesterday or today he said he was looking for the consent where he talks about the consent of Israel. 05:35.450 --> 05:40.630 So this is not making America great again. The warning signs were there, and now we're in trouble again. 05:41.090 --> 05:47.190 You know, we shouldn't be surprised at all about the way things are going right now 05:47.190 --> 05:53.350 with nobody in charge, really, that we can determine and what the plan is or why we're there. 05:53.350 --> 06:03.150 And this was done at the beginning with, you know, the contriving of, you know, and Trump. 06:03.910 --> 06:09.510 And yet even when they started the bombing it was sort of really fuzzy. 06:09.890 --> 06:13.930 And I mentioned the other day, really the explanation didn't make any sense, 06:14.250 --> 06:21.650 that we went into, we joined in because Israel was getting ahead of us. 06:21.650 --> 06:28.630 And that would incite, you know, people to bomb our bases and go after America. 06:29.230 --> 06:33.350 Well, if you joined the war and become the war, why wouldn't that increase it even more? 06:33.770 --> 06:37.050 So I never quite figured that out that there was that. 06:37.250 --> 06:41.090 Anyway, we joined the end. We've been fighting. We've been spending money. 06:41.510 --> 06:44.210 They never have enough money in this sort of thing. 06:44.630 --> 06:49.130 But we don't know who's really in charge. 06:49.130 --> 06:57.010 And that is a big problem. And right now there's a headline this morning in The New American. 06:57.470 --> 07:00.110 They're thinking about this, too, and they're trying to sort of that. 07:00.630 --> 07:07.810 It says Israel, headline, Israel and Trump disagree on ending the war in Iran. 07:08.090 --> 07:13.350 It seems like they were mixed up at the beginning, but I think they agreed, you know, 07:14.150 --> 07:18.150 what they had to do. And they, one way or another, they were going to invade. 07:18.150 --> 07:26.310 And start bombing Iran, not realizing already they've expressed, personally, 07:26.470 --> 07:29.110 they've expressed, you know, that they're positioned. 07:29.550 --> 07:31.970 We're surprised. We're surprised that they did that. 07:32.110 --> 07:33.950 We're surprised they did this and this. 07:34.250 --> 07:38.730 And as it's going on so long, things aren't going as well as they expected. 07:39.170 --> 07:45.070 So now, you know, they threaten about, you know, the straight of the loose. 07:45.070 --> 07:48.870 And that's not going well. And now there's an oil shortage. 07:49.170 --> 07:57.130 And now the pro-war Americans are disturbed because this might affect the economy like all wars do. 07:57.590 --> 08:00.390 So now they're saying, who's to blame? 08:00.850 --> 08:06.050 So now the effort is, oh, we're going to let the Russians sell a little bit. 08:06.270 --> 08:09.350 We'll have to relax the sanctions on Russia. 08:09.350 --> 08:16.710 And even now they're talking about removing some sanctions on Iran. 08:17.470 --> 08:21.010 They have a lot of ships out with oil. We're going to leave them alone. 08:21.710 --> 08:25.930 I mean, it's really crazy. It's schizophrenic, political schizophrenia, 08:26.370 --> 08:33.770 because they do one thing, but they don't have a well thought through plan or why they're doing it. 08:33.770 --> 08:36.830 And they don't have no moral or constitutional justification. 08:36.830 --> 08:39.890 That's where the real problem is. 08:40.750 --> 08:45.370 And now they're trying to get people to agree on how to end the war. 08:45.510 --> 08:48.250 And President Trump, let's see this article we're on to say, 08:48.510 --> 08:53.690 President Trump purported his desire to end the war in Iran sooner rather than later, 08:53.950 --> 08:58.650 is at odds with Israel's timetable reports indicate. 08:59.170 --> 09:03.930 And that's why we suggested a title. Who's in charge? 09:03.930 --> 09:11.750 And already the argument goes, who did what when and who's going to be blamed? 09:12.730 --> 09:21.850 And now there's two parts of this, the aggressive effort to start the war, start the bombing. 09:22.450 --> 09:29.110 And they even got mixed up then. Now they're talking about who ordered this bombing, 09:29.110 --> 09:34.370 who ordered this, what should we do, what should we do with the straight of her moves? 09:34.670 --> 09:37.950 And there's a disagreement, but that shouldn't surprise us. 09:38.230 --> 09:47.310 It doesn't help. I think in the comparison, even though I have lots of qualms of World War II, 09:47.670 --> 09:51.850 how it really got started and what the background was, but it was quite a bit different. 09:53.170 --> 09:57.450 People knew exactly what happened. There was this outlight bombing. 09:57.450 --> 10:03.310 And they were politically correct enough to let the opposition drop the bombs. 10:03.570 --> 10:08.910 This time we have our side, so-called side, the Americans and the Israelis, 10:10.030 --> 10:15.830 couldn't get together and really explain why they're doing this. 10:16.250 --> 10:21.450 So that's up for grabs. And I think it's that uncertainty, Chris, that is a big problem. 10:21.450 --> 10:30.030 I think it's going to prolong the answers and the decisions to be made to get this over with. 10:30.330 --> 10:34.770 And it's going to cost a lot more money. I wish to stop. 10:35.190 --> 10:39.410 Chris, I think it's appropriate to go back to my old slogan, just come home. 10:39.710 --> 10:43.630 Yes, absolutely. We just marched in. We could just march out. 10:44.270 --> 10:51.150 I want to focus for a minute or two about this group of people that, you know, the president is a disappointment. 10:51.730 --> 10:55.570 But Congress is just a bore. They're nonexist. 10:55.710 --> 11:01.530 And I hate to say it, but the American people, myself included, we've been duped our lives. 11:01.690 --> 11:05.490 You know, I went to a government or a public high school. 11:05.930 --> 11:10.670 So I remember what was taught in social studies and, you know, about government, 11:10.670 --> 11:14.730 you know, how the Constitution is the supreme law of the land. 11:14.950 --> 11:19.430 It is not in practice, how there are checks and balances. 11:20.030 --> 11:23.290 No, in practice, how a bill becomes a law. 11:23.670 --> 11:30.650 No, again, how the Congress is the closest to the people to represent the interests of the people. 11:30.810 --> 11:34.930 Well, look at what we have. Congress is virtually nonexistent. 11:35.430 --> 11:37.230 You know, how a bill becomes a law. 11:38.190 --> 11:42.350 We were duped. You know, do they even debate anything anymore? 11:42.430 --> 11:47.050 They definitely don't debate this, this monumental thing that we're involved in. 11:47.450 --> 11:49.890 And we started again last year. 11:50.470 --> 11:56.250 I can't fault everybody because Representative Massey was warning us. 11:56.490 --> 11:58.610 You know, everybody's got an APAC guy around here. 11:59.050 --> 12:01.870 And Marjorie Taylor Greene complained. 12:02.230 --> 12:03.210 She said she was frustrated. 12:03.390 --> 12:06.270 All we do is pass bills for Israel around here. 12:06.270 --> 12:08.490 I remember that. That may have been on talk or two. 12:08.910 --> 12:13.970 So millions of people, you know, in the last few years have been learning about APAC 12:13.970 --> 12:16.450 and they see their representatives on X. 12:16.630 --> 12:18.730 We stand with Israel. We stand with Israel. 12:18.950 --> 12:22.310 They trip over each other to tell us how much they stand with Israel. 12:22.410 --> 12:26.470 But this is not new. This didn't just happen in the last two years. 12:26.690 --> 12:31.650 I have a quote from Pat Buchanan, the great Pat Buchanan, who said this in 1990, 12:31.650 --> 12:39.410 36 years ago, he said, quote, the Congress of the United States is Israeli occupied territory. 12:39.970 --> 12:42.390 End quote, 36 years ago. 12:42.490 --> 12:47.030 So again, the seeds were planted and we're bearing the rotten fruit today. 12:47.650 --> 12:54.870 And they had to sort of exclude Pat from even talking and being a public person 12:55.470 --> 12:57.790 over these last several decades. 12:57.790 --> 13:02.910 But there is an effort now for dealing with the subject that we have brought up. 13:03.310 --> 13:09.530 And I want to call attention to an article that has just come out in the Wall Street Journal. 13:09.910 --> 13:13.470 And the Wall Street Journal is not exactly libertarian leaning. 13:13.890 --> 13:18.890 They're not with us on all this non-interference. 13:18.890 --> 13:27.510 So I want to quote from them because they're facing the same dilemma of who's doing what. 13:28.470 --> 13:32.750 And the title is US and Israel Disagree. 13:33.550 --> 13:42.690 A Wall Street Journal report from Wednesday bolsters the notion that Israel wants to drag out the war longer than America does. 13:43.070 --> 13:43.930 Could be true. 13:43.930 --> 13:47.410 But why did we help them start it? 13:47.590 --> 13:48.850 That's what is annoying. 13:49.730 --> 14:01.430 There is some concern among the White House officials that Israel wants the war to last after the U.S. expresses its desire to end bombing campaign. 14:01.430 --> 14:13.510 The official said U.S. and Israeli officials say the Israeli message is it will stop its campaign in Iran whenever the U.S. involvement stopped. 14:14.110 --> 14:22.310 Now this isn't coming from some conspiracy group, somebody that's been with non-interventionists for decades. 14:22.910 --> 14:26.110 This is coming from the Wall Street Journal. 14:26.110 --> 14:32.310 So this goes on as Trump has told AIDS he wants to end the war. 14:32.410 --> 14:34.930 I really believe he said that he wanted to. 14:35.290 --> 14:37.690 But at one time he said he didn't want to start wars. 14:38.190 --> 14:43.110 So that makes it more difficult to figure out which words we have to cling to. 14:43.410 --> 14:53.150 But it doesn't change the responsibility of all Americans and all people who can get attention to make the case for peace rather than war. 14:53.150 --> 15:01.590 And that most of the wars, matter of fact could be all wars, especially since World War II, could have been prevented. 15:01.850 --> 15:08.410 We would not have had to be in any of them if we would have followed the rules that were supposed to follow. 15:09.110 --> 15:17.050 And Trump told the AIDS he wanted to end the war and after brokering a ceasefire in the last year's 12-day war, 15:17.050 --> 15:21.790 he believes he can put a stop to the fighting when he wants. 15:22.290 --> 15:25.130 U.S. officials said, that's a good quote. 15:25.630 --> 15:29.350 Well, if he wants to do it and it's possible, that's the right thing to do. 15:29.670 --> 15:31.350 Why don't they do it? 15:31.710 --> 15:33.170 Man, I shouldn't be asking questions. 15:33.390 --> 15:34.650 I should suggest what they do. 15:35.010 --> 15:37.650 And my suggestions have always been don't get involved. 15:38.410 --> 15:39.990 Getting involved is all easy. 15:40.070 --> 15:40.910 It's all political. 15:41.290 --> 15:46.250 And some of the people who would take Trump, give Trump excuses, 15:46.250 --> 15:49.450 he said before that he doesn't want to have the wars. 15:49.750 --> 15:52.450 And a lot of people now said that same thing. 15:52.770 --> 15:58.630 They're up against it because there's Americans in harm's way and Americans are starting to die. 15:58.970 --> 16:03.510 Americans are very unhappy with what's happening in the economy. 16:04.050 --> 16:09.750 So they do this and they back out. 16:09.930 --> 16:12.290 They don't stick with their original premise and say, 16:12.290 --> 16:16.670 we said non-intervention, don't go in, don't have the war. 16:17.410 --> 16:21.410 But no, once the war breaks out, it's very hard to stop the wars. 16:21.650 --> 16:25.150 And that's what the practical lesson they ought to learn. 16:25.850 --> 16:26.770 Very good, Dr. Paul. 16:27.170 --> 16:31.550 I'll finish up with my closing statement and this is a real eye-opener 16:32.210 --> 16:33.850 because I just learned it this morning. 16:35.450 --> 16:39.890 Iran's military budget is $10 billion, $10 billion. 16:40.890 --> 16:42.350 America's is over a trillion. 16:43.770 --> 16:47.170 And Iran is one of the most sanctioned countries. 16:48.810 --> 16:56.850 And the Pentagon comes out and says they want another $200 billion to fight Iran. 16:59.270 --> 17:02.370 It's amazing even saying these words. 17:03.050 --> 17:09.730 And Iran with $10 billion has halted the world with drones and missiles. 17:09.850 --> 17:12.730 And Trump goes out, we destroyed this and that. 17:12.970 --> 17:14.050 They're not fighting you with that. 17:14.870 --> 17:20.870 It's missiles and drones and they are seizing up the world, piling on costs. 17:21.590 --> 17:28.270 This is the asymmetric warfare on our government and on us and Asia, Europe 17:28.270 --> 17:35.930 with $10 billion budget and our Pentagon wants to rob us of another $200 billion. 17:36.550 --> 17:39.250 I mean, it's stunning, stunning these numbers. 17:39.730 --> 17:45.390 And we wonder why the American standard of living has been spiraling down the drain for decades. 17:45.690 --> 17:46.490 This is it. 17:47.030 --> 17:48.990 The empire has bankrupted us. 17:49.370 --> 17:50.350 We had some hope. 17:50.870 --> 17:56.930 The guy with the red hat that was dancing on the stage was going to focus on America, not the empire. 17:56.930 --> 18:01.610 He chose the empire, he chose Israel and now we're all paying the price. 18:02.390 --> 18:13.050 You know, this has led to an old debate, an old reality and that is wars cause economic problems at home. 18:13.530 --> 18:20.090 And they say wars cause inflation and that wars can be used to get out of a depression. 18:20.590 --> 18:23.530 And all that is total nonsense. 18:23.530 --> 18:30.770 You could send up prices but it indirectly causes inflation because of what Chris just pointed out. 18:31.170 --> 18:34.570 They wanted $200 billion for this war. 18:34.870 --> 18:36.310 We don't have it. 18:36.690 --> 18:41.550 We have to steal it either from the people or defraud the people by printing the money. 18:42.130 --> 18:44.350 And they do this. 18:44.630 --> 18:52.110 They can get away with it and they're doing it because they want to keep the people safe and the people go along with it. 18:52.110 --> 18:56.570 But it leads to a problem and a dilemma really for the Federal Reserve. 18:56.690 --> 18:59.950 They don't know what to do because the economy is starting to reflect. 19:00.110 --> 19:03.670 Even today's news and the economy is not going well. 19:03.870 --> 19:08.270 And that means the recession is going to be very evident quite soon. 19:09.330 --> 19:13.250 And then that will put more pressure on the war. 19:13.430 --> 19:14.870 People will say, well, we can't quit. 19:15.030 --> 19:16.930 We haven't won and we don't want to lose a war. 19:17.390 --> 19:20.710 We thought we got that out of our system with Vietnam. 19:20.710 --> 19:25.530 Oh yeah, I think we didn't win the war in Afghanistan either. 19:26.090 --> 19:30.510 But the Fed now has a problem with a recession. 19:31.370 --> 19:38.330 And even before the recession started, the President always argued and I said that he's ahead of the game 19:38.330 --> 19:42.010 because he knew that the interest rates eventually would have to be cut. 19:42.010 --> 19:50.090 And now that's what's the problem is they're trying to keep the interest rates from climbing. 19:50.710 --> 19:56.710 But low interest rates, that means more inflation and that means that the people are going to be unhappier 19:56.710 --> 20:01.430 and that means that the turmoil at home is going to be more difficult. 20:02.110 --> 20:08.410 The maldistribution of wealth will continue because that's a natural consequence of the destruction of a currency 20:08.410 --> 20:11.810 and that means that there will be more violence here at home. 20:12.430 --> 20:14.530 So this is a bad situation. 20:14.850 --> 20:20.850 It's been on again, off again, up and down, you know, ever since we had the Fed especially. 20:21.230 --> 20:23.970 And it's a little bit of a human nature. 20:24.410 --> 20:29.890 But right now I think we're facing conditions that are making it much worse. 20:30.130 --> 20:32.310 They're not going to easily settle this debate. 20:32.630 --> 20:35.810 Who started the war and who's going to end it and who's the boss? 20:35.810 --> 20:41.650 And I think ultimately the market is the boss. 20:42.070 --> 20:48.750 The market will tell you that something has to be done and that's why the market has questioned our foreign policy 20:48.750 --> 20:54.230 and the market has questioned the availability of the dollar to the people. 20:54.870 --> 21:01.970 And that means that the people are questioning our leadership in the world. 21:01.970 --> 21:04.270 And that's going to be resolved. 21:04.470 --> 21:05.890 But there'll be ups and downs on that. 21:06.170 --> 21:07.370 And there'll still be people. 21:07.930 --> 21:11.190 We are the only country that can print money and get away with it. 21:11.350 --> 21:14.290 So we need more money, but it's going to lead to more trouble. 21:14.730 --> 21:18.610 And the neat part about all this, this could all be a positive. 21:19.130 --> 21:23.430 It wakes up people, wakes up the people what the government is doing to us. 21:23.510 --> 21:26.890 It wakes up people according to what they're doing to the monetary policy. 21:27.170 --> 21:30.350 It wakes up people and say, why do we have a foreign policy like this? 21:30.350 --> 21:34.190 And believe me, more and more people are coming our way on that. 21:34.430 --> 21:39.550 The unfortunate part, the majority of people that maneuver themselves in the position of power, 21:40.150 --> 21:43.550 you know, their goal in life is to stay there. 21:43.890 --> 21:48.790 So even when they were saying good things, they switch around because to stay there, 21:48.870 --> 21:50.630 they have to satisfy the special interest. 21:50.990 --> 21:56.330 They have to, you know, maintain what are the rules in protecting democracy? 21:56.970 --> 21:59.590 The protection of mob rule is what it really is. 21:59.590 --> 22:02.530 So I see this as a horrible situation. 22:02.990 --> 22:08.230 Things could get worse, but it's also an opportunity for us to get the message of liberty and sound money out 22:08.230 --> 22:10.730 because it is the answer to this. 22:10.950 --> 22:13.330 And it's not only an economic issue. 22:13.610 --> 22:16.570 It's not only a foreign policy issue. 22:16.790 --> 22:18.350 It's a moral issue. 22:18.710 --> 22:21.890 And that's the hardest part that people can understand. 22:22.710 --> 22:27.530 But lying to keep these individuals in power. 22:27.530 --> 22:33.830 And that's what happens once they have an empire going, you know, the empire becomes the deciding factor. 22:34.070 --> 22:38.290 And that will lead us to the crisis that I'm talking about. 22:38.590 --> 22:45.630 But I'm excited about the fact that the answer to it and the understanding of how freedom really works 22:45.630 --> 22:48.730 is available to us in this electronic age. 22:48.990 --> 22:54.610 Everybody can find the information, but they have to have the moral fiber to look for the right things 22:54.610 --> 22:57.590 and study and learn and participate. 22:58.390 --> 23:02.530 I want to thank everybody for tuning in today to the Liberty Report. 23:03.450 --> 23:04.530 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