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I'm welcome to the Delling pod Johnny Vedmore I'm Johnny if you see me doing
this animatedly coming forward say don't James try and sit up straight and
keep your keep your your neck because I did this unusually long podcast yesterday
and I've got a headache now and I was I constantly do this because I'm on a
really crappy little I've got a laptop which I position on a pile of books and
I use its camera I haven't got any of this fancy stuff I think this is your
problem here this sounds like your problem you need to start getting a
couple of bits of fancy stuff but why so just so that you don't have to hurt your
neck I wonder whether it would that would actually affect my behavior there
whether I whether I if I had a camera a proper camera would I would I not be
leaning forward to the camera I don't know no I died and I don't know it
takes a bit of time I when I was doing the TNT radio stuff it was quite
hard to understand where I should sit in comparison you know I you start
thinking about yourself too much and watching yourself too much like not the
kind of thing I can be bothered to do I can understand I can understand I can
see that in your nature James you're like I don't need any of that I could
just go to deal with the main facts at hand you're that type of guy I like
getting on the horse and riding off no pissing about I want glad you were
riding off then I want the I want the grooms there to take care of all the
boring stuff I can you want the groomers did you say the grooms all right
okay groom is a person who looks after a horse yeah I can imagine probably
grooms the horse and normally normally they're they're female so I well
good that's something gilet max well used to do I believe back in the day
she was big into horses in actual fact that might that might explain I mean
but just might explain her connection with a bit with with I think it's a
bit with with she was did some of the files show that she has a connection
with a bit with with of course a bit with we've got a lot of a horse training
facilities around it and yes yeah yeah it's got quite a large equestrian
little to the whole area really it's she wasn't a bruise with you I don't know I
don't know what she was I I don't know what she was I don't think she went to
the college there but she did some sort of deal with them they would do in
deals with everybody they would just had their fingers in all the pies before
we move on because I can see that there's so much you know we could we
could run away with ourselves yes let's just take a pause shall we Johnny
and describe well tell us about yourself hello my name is Johnny
Vendmore I became a journalist at one point and just got interested in the
idea of going through history and finding information no one else really could
find I realized I knew information that no one else could find I could find
it my I could think esoterically outside the box and I could think of
where to find something that no one else could have thought of before and
I used that skill over the past 10 years to write many articles and many
investigations it led to be an investigative journalist I've got a
complicated upbringing complicated past and not usual you could say I've lived
around the place now I've worked for a few platforms I wrote a couple of times
for UK column I wrote for unlimited hangout with Whitney Webb for a while
I helped her research for one nation and the black male so I got to cut my
teeth on some some proper research work as well and then I've just been producing
I try and find in a story I try it when someone comes to me with something they
say oh I want can you concentrate on this person or this person I always look
at those people and you it's always the people at the most impossible to beat
you could throw stones galore at them and nothing would they'd all bounce off
like the Peter Teals or the Elon Musk's you know they got a mimetic
quality which means that every insult everything bounces off of them is kind
of like a neo-conservative quality you could say about them and and for me I
tend to try and find the weakness in the armor I look for the place where I see
myself as a lone wolf irrational actor and those people have been dressed up
as terrorists and neodywells for many years but in actual fact we need more
lone wolf actors we need people who are willing to say okay I'm not gonna end up
within an organization telling me what to do I'll only do what I think is the
right thing to do whatever time that I feel is right to do it so that's what I
kind of do I go in between the lines I do a lot of naughty things so my
journalism tends to be like now they're reporting about young command
links to Epstein I started reporting about that seven years ago they're
only just reporting on the base level really like the essence of my first
article is what they're reporting on now in the mainstream they haven't got to any
of the real nitty-gritty information that'll take another five six seven years
so my journalism tends to be ten to fifteen years ahead of what the
mainstream offer and that's all across the board as well there's a lot of
different articles I've tackled I went through each year and multiple times a
year sometimes I break stories that the mainstream media will not allow on the
screen and what I try and do is I try and push the boundaries of what they think
they you know they they get away with a lot because no one pushes boundaries so
they get to to leave out a lot of history I'm closer getting closer and
closer to making it so awkward for the mainstream my presence that they're
gonna have to at some point let me on something and then all hell will break
loose because I'm not like a lot of the rest of people I'm not motivated by
things like money and wealth I'm motivated by something which is kind of
like an obsessive order really that I gotta I love I love asking the
questions you're not allowed to ask love it thank you Johnny that was that
was very fluent um obviously we've got to talk about
Junkerman because you mean you've done the legwork you've earned the right I
think to talk about it but first of all can we talk about because on my mind at
the moment I've just seen on Twitter this Leslie Wexner in court and his
attorney is whispering in his ear shut up or we'll kill you or something similar
and just to put this in context having been familiar with some of Whitney
Webb's research into this and and perhaps your your co-research I thought
Leslie Wexner was sort of pretty much a top dog in in in crime ink that that
he's yeah he's a big big money man he sort of ran Epstein to a degree didn't
he that is very Leslie Wexner was a prolific Zionist organiser organising
large groups of Zionists very early on by the this includes within the Jewish
business community he was always pushing the agenda for Israel in amongst
Jewish community and they were active for a long time when we were when I was
researching for one nation under blackmail I was one of the things I was
asked to look into was basically the entire rise of Leslie Wexner and and
not so much the later years but but where how he how he he was when he was
younger because he was extremely competitive a very strange man a man
who claimed to have a demon he openly wrote in and admitted within an
article in a mainstream newspaper that he had a debok a Jewish playful
spirit that made him do evil things and he always followed whatever his debok
said and that he said out loud and I think if you look at different things
like that throughout Leslie Wexner's life you start to realise he's this
character that is so wealthy and powerful in his state of Ohio I mean
he owns almost all of Ohio if you if you talk to people in Ohio they'll say oh
yeah everybody we know like one degree of separation from someone who works for
Leslie Wexner or is like a major part of one of his major businesses or
enterprises or organisations or foundations or funds because a lot of
this is university driven sort of funding that he he makes sure that he
funds organisations at every single level both business academic government so
early on he's working in a clothes shop with his dad then his dad doesn't like
his suggestion so he goes off makes a competing clothes shop and drives his
dad's business into the ground to prove a point and then his dad goes
works for him and he makes victorious secrets and all of this and the
limited brand comes after that a lot of it really it was based on teenage
underwear and bikinis he liked making teenage underwear and bikinis and
selling it to very young girls he became the lead in that and it made him
loads of money targeting girls of a certain age was what Les Wexner did
within business targeting girls of the same age was what Jeffrey Epstein did in
business as well so there's a crossover there that I think needs to be really
looked into the modeling front as well Victoria's Secret etc put Leslie Wexner
in touch with lots of different models who were the best possibility for the
highest level compromise agents models who were willing to sell something of
themselves over to the the state were fantastic for compromise operations
especially at the highest level if you want to compromise world leaders you
need to have the most beautiful and intelligent women in the world
something young command is or Melanie Walker or one of the other people who
were around Epstein Leslie Wexner was probably funded 90% of Wexner of Epstein's
organization he like he was handing his his house over to him Epstein was helping
with swapping properties over Guido Goldman Henry Kissinger's best friend
the head of the German Marshall Fund which is a CIA front was part of the
thing of one of the people who was trading properties between Epstein
Bronfman and Wexner in different places so there's loads of weird connections and
they look like they're basically funneling money and funds through
different assets and and supplying Epstein with an operational basis to do a
massive operation and lots of people wanted it to be oh it's the Mossad
I think they didn't want it to be they were told it was the Mossad because
quite simply they were fed this idea and this is the idea it's a pantomime
it's a Kabuki theater idea the Mossad is all pervasive who controls absolutely
everything and the CIA is a poor victim of the Mossad that has been manipulated the
government agencies are all poor victims of the Mossad they've all been
manipulated they like children they don't they don't have any know what's
happening oh we're the biggest funding deep state spy and intelligence
organization in the world and we're just gonna be taken over by there's a
symbiotic relationship there's intelligence partners is how it works on
the global stage now and people want it's really easy in an operation like
like Operation Condor which was a mixed national nation-state intelligence
operation that was multiple South American agencies would take sanctions
against certain countries and they would use mixed national so that the
people couldn't be held to account or countries couldn't be held to account
well that's the same sort of thing they do with CIA and Mossad and with
British intelligence and French intelligence Canadian intelligence because
I can tell you Epstein was working with them all and what Wexner was doing was
he was he working to minute was was Epstein working just for Wexner that's
a really simplistic view that discounts the fact that he that Epstein was
recruited by the CIA funded by the CIA run guns through Iran Contra with the CIA
and went on to really control the Democratic Party for a Republican
leaning CIA and then to control the technocratic leadership contenders for
what is a Republican leaning CIA so I think there's a lot of CIA there and the
Leslie Wexner sort of like oh he's the big boss was a bit of a tongue in
cheek easy way for them to dress it up or something else but really it's all of
them in it together we always find this is they dress themselves up as being
taken advantage of by one person so one person has to take account or
accountability for all the other ills and then if you've got something like
that happening in courtroom people will be like oh they won't be
concentrating on what he's actually done they'll be concentrating on the
idea of conspiracy maybe he's also being controlled by a bigger entity so they
do in the same thing that they've done with Wexner for Epstein with Wexner by
doing that because they'll have someone else who's telling him what to do and
he's either big but already must be just a puppet or poor Wexner he's a
victim and all of this and you see this throughout the Epstein case the
recategorization of perpetrators and accomplices as victims this is
something that happens or like all every single level throughout the Epstein
case that is present so do you think that that incident with the the lawyer
whispering and they want to hear what he was saying didn't that was staged
yeah I think I think they just do all of these different methods of his
fifth-generation warfare everybody's got to make everybody not know what's
happening you got it you've got it you've got to be completely don't know
what's up don't know what's down don't know who's good don't know what who's
bad constantly leave doubt if you do something that's a tactic you know it's
gonna work to seed doubt into the public consciousness and you're a high
class lawyer you're doing it for a reason you're not just doing it by
accent or if you're a billionaire I mean the whole thing looked ridiculous
sounded ridiculous and allowed for the exact thing they want which is to to
take away responsibility from Les Wexner make it look like it's somebody else
who's responsible right right and yet at the same time the presumably is a
higher tier than Les Wexner well yeah but I mean be a I suppose a logical
fallacy you could describe it as a logical fallacy to think that the
two for those two things are connected to Les Wexner being not to be all an
end all is is I think something that everybody should just accept he's part
of a cog in a massive machine and that machine has much higher these in these
are the people Les Wexner looks like a business corporate Zionist who was
running intelligence operations on behalf that were interlocutors really
he's one of the interlocutors between the Mossad and the CIA and of
American agencies so I mean really what he's he is is just an employee who's
allowed to keep his cash and function in certain ways and is allowed to get away
with his certain proclivities whatever those proclivities may be so that he can
help out the intelligence agencies so he's just a cog in a machine the people
who are above him are much wealthier than him there's people who are much
wealthier than him there's people who are so wealthy that we don't even know
who they are there's a whole world be a great lot to know who those
ones are yeah we'd all love to know who those ones are but there's a whole
there's there is an entire other reality being created elsewhere and we don't
even know about that I think we got to accept now there's all sorts of like
like it was last year and the year before I was still not allowed to
talk about what my own findings without being called a conspiracist or
conspiracy theorist and all of this and now I have major papers coming to
me and saying excuse me well you you've done all the work on this we need your
advice so the switch over I hope you I hope you charge him Johnny
well let's let's just get it out there at the moment that's the most important
thing especially when it comes down to young command so you're gonna come
onto young command in a moment yeah in fact I was gonna ask you one more
question but I forgot what let's let's let's let's deal with young command tell
us about young command well young command was an interesting one I mean quick
quick rundown I I wanted to find something to do in the Epstein case I
wanted to get into it somehow it was 2019 I'd already been investigating a
few different people for quite a while and I wanted to write something but I'd
come across this one woman in about 2017 I'd come across this woman in
the flight logs and the flight logs I had color coded them and one color was only
repeated three times in the flight log that I had where everything else was like
mapped out it was just one which was Jeffrey Epstein flying with someone
else without his entourage without glane Maxwell without Sarah Callan without
anybody like that just Jeffrey Epstein and somebody else was a real rarity
there was always somebody else with them serving them helping them doing all
these things but why would you need such secret it was so
secretive and it was from flight from Paris to Britain to Birmingham airport
why go to Birmingham airport that peaked my interest and then
in 2019 I discovered she was being brought on to the health tech advisory
board on the NHS by Matt Hancock
who I mean we both got lots of names from Matt Hancock I'm sure
and a guy called Daniel Korsky who later went for tried to become mayor I think
he he's he's correct if I'm wrong he's 10 miles of bad road
he he's a very bad person yeah yes he's um he's I think he's an
intelligence he like brings people into the government
from intelligence that's what it looked like and and tries to uh it related to
tech startups very much so related to what is called the digital
panopticon I wrote an article in 2020 about Daniel Korsky called Daniel
Korsky's uh digital panopticon for unlimited hangout um and it was really
looking at the what what they're investing in and what he's he's
involved in it's about sifting data and it looks like he is um I mean he
could be he's one of those globalist multinational uh
Jewish men who you raise an eyebrow at because it looks like he's a spy
and that he's hanging around with other spies
and doing spy business at the highest level including
being uh one of the main advisors to Hamid Karzai
just after Afghanistan was taken that's a little bit of a high-brow job in it
or being in there with David Cameron that's a bit of a I I think that
Daniel Korsky is something that people with someone people really want to watch
while he was standing next to a young company to help bring young
come on board to the health tech advisory board and I was like you know
the NHS however hard they are and however difficult they may be
they have saved my life I I did go through eight years of
of intense stuff including radioactive treatment
and serious throat surgery so I love my NHS
and uh and I just I went I went against
um I just reported on Youngerman and then I next month I found out
where they had actually gone when they were in Britain which was
a little place called Fox Coat House in North Warwickshire
in a near place called Ilmington uh owned by Abigail Wexner
um they in 1999 uh they'd actually had a little bit of an uproar in the
local area because Les Wexner wanted to build a helipad
a helipad which was used on this occasion by Youngerman and Epstein to bring them
to this mansion house and there they met two
sitting US senators and there were two very important things happening just
after these senators were meeting Epstein and Youngerman
in Abigail Les Wexner's mansion out in the middle of
of uh North Warwickshire two very important things two days later
the Amber Alert Bill was being introduced by Epstein's friend
Hillary Clinton it was about stopping child trafficking and child kidnapping
that's a very interesting fact and I don't think people have properly looked into
yet and a month later was the vote of whether or not to go to the Iraq war
now someone else uh managed to inform me only yesterday of the two likely names
I haven't gone written down but the two likely names for the senators
seeing as a joint intelligence task force was noted as visiting the UK
two senators during those days and they had to have met from the first to September onwards
and those would have to be the ones who met with Youngerman Epstein and another woman a brunette
you see in the nighttime Epstein walked into this mansion house with a girl a beautiful
model looking woman on each arm as he walked in to meet the senators
I know that the police know that I contacted the Metropolitan Police and I asked them freedom
of information request if they can give me the name of the senators and they said they couldn't
for national security reasons that's in 2022 I say for national security reasons now we should
know the name of those senators and we it is for exactly those reasons we should know the name
of the senators then I released an article in 2020 which was uh the basically all of the
rundown of Nicole Youngerman's history she's an amazingly wealthy tech investor now she's
in Italian Countess Countess Pritchetti Paretti um she married Ferdinando Pritchetti Paretti also in
Epstein's Little Black Book along with his brother Hugo they're the heads of API oil family
oil in Italy which is an extreme is the wealthiest oil firm in um in Italy and then and then
she's she spent seven years strategically litigating against me taking out multiple
injunctions from burling courts uh to go to platforms and have my content taken down one
after another she had microtaskers delisting me from every platform including google they were
going one by one microtaskers were contacting me because they felt so guilty once they worked
out what they were doing they started contacting me one by one in actual fact loads of people
have ended up contacting me because those people have been affected people who talked to me over
seven years about Youngerman at all had their podcast hit for defamation and they used the
interim court injunctions which are meant to lead to a defamation case but never led to a
defamation case because they used it as strategic litigation against public participation and it was
truly truly a really hard time then in December the Vatican who are connected with Nicole
with Countess Pritchetti Paretti and her husband they also had their baby baptised in the Vatican
um they they offered me to uh the Vatican under false pretence i knew it was going to be a i knew
i was anyway i knew it was a trap but i also i'm an investigative journalist so i go into anything
yeah they're wild so i when i got there i got harassed by police as soon as i got off the
plane i got uh intimidated i had a driver who no one knows who he worked for um i had loads
different things happen including someone run like ride up to me and shove an envelope in my
chest and it was pictures gave me pictures of me walking around Rome to intimidate me to let them
know they're watching ended up in a negotiation between me and the Vatican on behalf of Nicole
Youngerman and they told me by the end of it they told me they told me loads of things they
told me they had a camera the Vatican people told me they had a camera that could see ghosts
and could tell that ghosts were attached on people's shoulder they had knew the uh the name
of the antichrist and they tell me and i could tell everyone and and they also told me that
Nicole Youngerman was actually working with the Vatican to take down Jeffrey Epstein and show
me a load of fake emails to try and make convince me of that which was a load of bollocks
but in the end they admitted that it she was obliged because she was working for the
Vatican she was obliged to speak with them and now we could negotiate and so it was just
a negotiation it turns out uh with a load of intimidation added on and that's been seven
years were important on Nicole Youngerman now everybody can speak about her like Rome
and everybody can read more most of my stuff still geo blocked on different bird in different
countries everybody else can talk about the stuff but still loads of my articles
about 30 of them have been banned even rumble at one point deleted the three of my Youngerman
read throughs without even telling me not even informing me i know you found out three months
later that's rumble that's she was in business with peter teal when she entered in when Nicole
Youngerman entered into the health tech advisory board she was also part car by 9
9 11 car by 9 11 was invested in by Jeffrey Epstein peter teal and a huberac who was also
on the board alongside Nicole Youngerman a huberac 10th prime minister of israel and
pinches pruchas who was the head of the unit 8200 cyber security division along with alex disengard
and emeer alakai and also israeli intelligence duties is crazy let me pause you there um
youngerman what's her what's her backstory she's a german countess she countess by marriage
she's countess by marriage no no she she became an elite model she went to university of monaco
she became a leap model like Naomi Campbell elite agency john class of blankus which was partly uh
being used as a runoff for um uh john luke bownell's younger models some of them were going up to
elite models um but i've only been able to find one photo shoot in that era if you were a model
you were everywhere all the time those photos you were everywhere i found one photo shoot in
a magazine it looks like it's a cover she then entered into a company called winner max that with
a guy called robert louis drafus he was the head of adidas and he became her um they were having
an affair his wife uh she she ended up marion uh philip uh someone or a hilda brand from uh head
of black rock but basically robert louis drafus and nicole youngerman had relationships and
business partnership until he died and he protected her a lot she made a lot of front organizations
with him winner max was a front organization it was early like internet sort of uh fantasy
football type thing it was created by someone else but they all took the claim for it and then
they created infront sport media and infront sport media was run by philip bladder the nephew
of sepp bladder and they won the rights for all of the fifa world cups at a really base level and it
was a way for sepp bladder to give his um nephew a load of uh rights and i know a guy uh david
wheeling who wrote the lenin assassination books he says he was it in front sport media
when it was set up and it was a front everybody knew it was a front and they all knew it was
and they ended up having to go to a german inquiry and inquest in all inquest into um
the actual activity that went on with that company uh everybody basically robert louis
drafus took the fall for it and he was already dying he took the slaps on the wrist he ended
up dying she she made lozen money and then she went into tech big tech businesses and they're
all big tech that's connected with lots of different things like she's involved she
she created um she was involved in swarm which was a satellite array that was sold into space x and
now she owns parts of space x she owns part of revolute she owns part of job you can actually
this is about probably about 50 or 60 big major tech companies that she knew to invest in because
if you look at what she was talking about with epstein as well it wasn't only will you marry
me and will we have babies together um a superior race but it was also the idea
what do i need to invest in what options do i need so they were doing uh she she was
she was being helped with investments by epstein in the tech world behind the scenes as well
so she's an extremely big player even bigger than i even thought and i wrote a lot about her um
and then she like i said it went on for seven years this whole legal battle backwards and
forwards it's kind of ended now because they uh sent a load of information to substack and
substack gave me that information and it turns out she was denying she had flown on the lolita
express even though she's on the flight manifest she was denying an extended relationship of any type
or business relationship with jeffrey epstein she said she wasn't on the board to car by 9 11
even though she was definitely registered on the board and then they've signed it legally as well
so they've they've actually that you when you when you claim defamation against someone you have
to say two lines at the end which are legal they're legally binding they're saying that what you're
saying in this is definitely the truth and the majority of the the copyright claims and other
things they tried to use that the pictures weren't in any of the articles the video or any of the
videos but none of the platforms checked they took it down automatically because these guys
used interim berlin court injunctions to show them oh look we've got a court behind us and
none of them bother checking to see what that meant so i got a one hell of a case against yankham
and we're going head to head eventually um i don't think she'll want that as a court case so
so early life i mean you you're obviously familiar with the way that high-level models
people like that are often um uh monarch programmed or mk ultrid and they and they're used by the
the cabal for intelligence works for honey traps for for spying and stuff do you think she might be
one of those her father was extremely wealthy but by the by the look i i it is a complicated
normally i go into people's in deep into people's family history it's one of the first things i
usually do but in about 2020 late 2020 early 2021 nickle young commons people started a campaign
of disinformation they already were combating my journalism having it taken down but they were
also producing loads of fake websites with false information on there um loads of them
so that when people went to them they would find the wrong information and if i was to report
that wrong information then it would it would of course undermine my whole uh platform that's
kind of what they're doing it for i i i tried to stay away from going into her ancestry too much
but she was brought up in a very wealthy area she was um uh her father was a wealthy i think
he was a financier and jewelry sales member for the elite um and basically i they could very well be
that she is somehow trained like that but it also could be that she's already got the mindset
a mindset like her father a very good business woman but she was also i got to say it vibrant and
sexual i think i think that one of the reasons probably and this is speculation but this is from
seeing how she is seeing her relationships she likes older men she uh i think she dazzles them
to a point they can't even like robert louis drafus was willing to for his family lost the
fortune in lost a fortune in robert louis drafus because his wife took all of the money
because he was off gallivanting with nicole young company would not give her up
is she she could i i think she could not she wasn't only a dynamo in the office she wasn't
only uh extraordinarily stunning i and not only was she probably amazing in the other areas
that you need to be but she also didn't care about she she was willing to do the
compromise i think i think the high level highest level and if you're in the highest level i mean
the same accusations be made about my only gamble as well um and they were it with the same people
during this period doing the same things for the same elite modeling agency run by the exact
same people flying on the same lowly to express both Naomi Campbell and other models as well they
were all linked him because really you know if you pay those girls masses and masses of money
to make someone happy well you're talking not talking about just any old joe you're talking
about world leaders you're talking about uh heads of enterprise and business you're talking about
lots of money changing the hands and you're talking about old classic compromise that we
know exists we know this stuff exists global warming is a massive con there is no evidence
whatsoever that man-made climate change is a problem that is going to kill us that we need
to amend our lifestyle in order to deal with it it's a non-existent problem but how do you
explain this stuff to your normie friends well i've just brought out the revised edition
my 2012 classic book watermelons which captures the story of how some really nasty people
decided to invent the global warming scare in order to fleece you to take away your freedoms
to take away your land it's a shocking story i wrote it as i say in the well 2011 actually the
first edition came out and it's a snapshot of a particular era the era when the people behind
the time climate change scan got caught red-handed tinkering with the data torturing till it screamed
in a scandal that i helped christen climate gate so i give you the background to to the
skull jugglery that went on in in these seats of learning where these supposed experts were
informing us we've got to act now i rumbled their their scan i then asked the question okay if it
is a scan who's doing this and and why it's a good story i i've kept the the original book
pretty much as is but i've written two new chapters one at the beginning and one at the end
explaining how it's even worse than we thought i think it's a i think it still stands up i think
it's it's a good read i obviously i'm biased but i'd recommend it you can buy it from
james delingpole.co.uk forward slash shop but you're probably fine that might just go
get to my website and look for it james delingpole.co.uk and i hope it helps keep you informed and gives you
the material you need to bring around all those people who are still persuaded that oh it's a
disaster we must amend our ways and appease the gods appease mother god no we don't it's a scam
you're talking about uh heads of enterprise and business
you're talking about lots of money changing hands and you're talking about old classic compromise
that we know exists we know this stuff exists we know it exists i suppose it makes sense um
now you know you state it like that that if you are a supermodel you're gonna have a price
aren't you you're gonna i mean you're not going to be proud if if you're being offered i don't
know how much to sleep with somebody you're thinking well you know it's just one night
listen if if uh if when i was younger say i was like 18 19 20 21 if someone had come along and offered
me a large amount of money to sleep with me some woman out there i'm not sure i i you know i i think
i possibly would have done it are you i mean the fact is is that one thing that we underestimate
is sex say people like it people enjoy it actually people have your parents did it and their parents
did it and their parents did it and so on and so forth all the way back and we really we we are
proved when we come to think about how other people relate to to to that and i think i think
especially post-women's liberation we're well gone if we enter into the 90s we've not only
passed to swing in 60s and and raucous behavior the 70s and 80s but women are like we can do whatever
we like now you know there's some women who have empowered themselves so much they're like
they're in control and they like that control and for those women if they're completely not
totally beautiful they can wrap any man around their finger and they know how to use that
control because this is okay this is this is one of the things i tell you i know loads of people
who like i'll sit in a a cafe or a bar there's loads of people come in and you see them and some of
them are pretty you say hello etc every now and again someone comes in who's so totally and utterly
overwhelmingly beautiful that no one can stop looking at them and those people don't have to
try very hard the majority of time they're probably very nice people sometimes they they're
involved in trades that mean they don't really learn that much or take in masses of information
they don't need to because they've got looks and looks gives you something else it gives you
people willing to do things for you because you're beautiful and the more beautiful you are the
exponential line goes with that you know you get goes up and up and up and up if you are so
gorgeous that you walk into a room that men shake around you you are in a situation where you
can bend anybody to your will and you learn how to if you learn how to do that as well
if people like this young man Naomi Campbell Kate Moss if these women were doing that
well it's going to be easy for them they looked pretty confident they learned how to sell themselves
and looks they might not even need to do that much to be perfectly honest but they also have
wants desires they want some women want to dominate men and some men want to dominate
women usually it's the one-way round sexually if you're in the sack with someone it's either
you're with someone who wants to be dominated or wants to dominate you or want some sort of
equal ground which is very rare usually women you know like men to be men and there's a
stereotype to it and there's a certain subset of characteristics that come with that women who
are in charge who are dominant who are tall beautiful can get their way can bend you round
every single finger over and over again they don't this is like no brainer work for them
they're just having fun and can you imagine the amount of money you you could make from being
open to just living life wildly and maybe even when she's doing it it doesn't look like any one
of these women it doesn't look like they're actually doing anything wrong all they're doing
is having fun sleeping with people and they don't care because they look around they go back to
their modeling world and that's what everybody's doing anyway so why should we I mean okay so
Jungkerman is a pretty girl on the make tell tell me why we should worry about her
um a lot of her job a lot of her investments in companies that have some form of ability to
get gained data and car by 9 11 was definitely one of those companies so she's involved in a company
that is 9 11 yeah car by 9 11 that's not a dodgy name is it I know and what the company is
is you call 9 11 or 9 9 9 in the UK yeah and instead of the police
you're gonna get car by 9 11 now they're gonna send out drones check the cameras have access
they'll have access to absolutely they say in their website will have access to people's cameras
outside their doors will have access to the security on different cars will have access to
the drones and this that and we'll check and we'll be able to prevent crime before it even happens
you know pre-cogs sort of way we can we can see behavior in a neighborhood if it's normal or not
and we know whether to send someone out so when you phone 9 11 you're not phone in 9 11 your
phone in Israeli intelligence and Israeli intelligence because of this get to have access to every
single bit of data about UK citizens or US citizen and then if they decide that the police
in the country actually needs to uh to react they contact them and they send them out
so is this is this legal yes this is we've we've we've given all our video feeds to the
Israelis apparently they've been getting they started getting contract after contract and during
during covid they got contracts in different places in america and they're aiming to do this this is
what the idea this is why teal was invested in their epstein ehub iraq and nicole youngerman
that's why the health tech advisory board at the same time on the health tech advisory board
is a guy who's um his name escapes me but he's the head of okin as o w k i n and this guy at this
company is invested in again by nicole youngerman and what they were announcing through njf capital
nicole youngerman financial uh uh capitals website they they're announcing hey look we've got the
rights to get all of the data in from the nhs all of the information to use it for our ai
so what are they trying to do she's trying to constantly get information now the next thing
what why should we worry well this is our problem we should worry about that that's
obvious we should worry and we would worry if it was if jeffrey epstein was the front
or if peter teal was the front or if if ehub iraq was the front because it's a beautiful
six foot seven x italian supermodel of german supermodel she's six foot seven she's six foot
seven something like that no yeah she's totally not leave super proper supermodel i mean she is
absolutely gorgeous divine i bet she's like a like a giant she's like well maybe she's six
foot four i know maybe i've added to her but she is like a giant she is i do i do say she is
like an eight foot creature with technocratic maybe she is maybe she is descended from the giants
she could be a tartarian there's a possibility but i mean the reason why we should be what we
should view her as is part of the um uh collection of data for the digital ben octagon and access
some rights to access data for the digital ben octagon on behalf of the worst people in society
they do it by using a pretty face as simple as it is now if you look at the people who were
surrounding her you start to realize that's all it is pretty face time and they need a lot of
people really high ranking people to defend her and they do that the the main legal advisor
njf is um uh the guy who last year or the year before was the main legal advisor to baron
roff child when he was alive and had been for the past four five years so um avid door i think
his name is um ben david door maybe i'll have to go to the actual website and and check it out
just due to the fact i've forgotten his name but uh yeah he was um uh jacob roff child's um
legal advisor before jacob roff child died so obviously she's got quite big access
just briefly sidetracking you although i hope it's not too much of a sidetrack
what what's what's the story about this being a kind of war within the ross child family
a sort of power struggle is there anything in that well i don't i don't tend to you know i don't
tend to um think that we ever know what's going on behind closed doors with all of these people
right i just i think a lot of what spills out into the public is it's oh if something hits
the public it's been made to do that on purpose it's not real okay so um i just i don't okay so
so you've got this six foot seven or how much all she is a necratic creature stealing all our our
data giving the worst people in the world yeah and and everyone's just going everyone in government
who might be responsible for any kind of oversight is going uh she's a pretty girl and and make what
she is make me do things yeah that makes me do things come on you know you know what it's like
pretty girls and stuff they make it they make us go too laly in the mind yeah yeah yeah yeah
they're pretty it i i i i have known not not not biblically one of these women and they are
they're just something else um not biblically no not biblically so um
um are we done with young man or is the more well you can i mean that is young man she's
now in a situation where times have changed before it was only me she had to try and like
a target and a raster to cover up her um uh connections with epstein and barack and other
people it should have been obvious but now she's she's been outed as really a key a key player i wasn't
expecting that to be honest i thought she i you know i thought her association was a little bit less
than than what is turned out to be so she's even more important um i think these guys
in different countries you're going to see this happen in different places so i think that's one
of the things we can look for is that and and it's happening in spain now as well it is people who
are related to other people who have had connections with epstein and it's caused like
uproars in each of these little european countries so i think the europeans are going to start to
get epstein fever soon well what do you mean you mean they've been reading all the stories
and they realize it's that it's the current i mean no the epstein was uh in bed with
like loads of royals loads of families loads of big financial firms that have massive links
all around the world um that are based all around the world a lot of the like spanish
royalty spanish politicians people like that will probably have connections in different ways to
this network because it's a large criminal conspiracy they'll be the same within italy
within germany within france um each of these countries one by one will learn that this isn't
just something that's an american art was an american operation it was a big globalist
intelligence blob operation and they happen all over the place a lot of what we i mean a lot
of what we're talking about when we're talking about what he was doing he was trafficking
children trafficking children he was tailed john lukbrunow was taking children it were
getting children from eastern europe and from other places traffic them across to france
flying them from france i think flying them from france to newfoundland in canada and then
dropping them off and then traveling back so already you've got the canadians who kind of
know what's going on because i've also i mean what you'll find interesting and i can give you a
little um this this you'll find very interesting um i i've been doing some other investigations
there's an article i got coming out soon haven't told people completely the crux i have said out loud
the basics of it is that i met someone i've interviewed a few people and i discovered someone
who had a telephone switch in west minster that were in 1980s and he bought it from some people
in america and it had been set up by the morsad and by robert maxwell's people to paying loads of
the calls from west minster across to um other countries where they could then be recorded
or listened to and they knew what was happening in the halls of power is how robert maxwell was
helping israel or how we think it was israel to um uh spy on the world but israel were making
money off it israel were setting it up israel were funneling the information but that information
was going through canada and the canadian firm in particular videotron had a load of switches
within london and were working on they were kind of breaking the rules of the telecom industry back
in the day they were working on both sides of the river they had been kind of like a gentleman's
agreement not to a videotron this canadian company started to get involved in both
videotron uh at the time or at the time of uh when i was investigating videotron the head
was brian moroney who was one of robert maxwell's very close friends uh brian moroney
was prime minister during the time that canada was doing this robert maxwell uh brian moroney
actually talks about robert maxwell once inviting him to the ritz in montreal and him going there
and tell him tell him margot facture's going to stand down tomorrow and saying oh you know
robert maxwell always had access to this information but that's because the canadians were helping
the israelis to spy on the british government now they're all in it together every single one of them
we like to they like to say oh it's the israelis here oh it's the the the british here oh it's the
americans here it's all of them together orchestrating it even the british would have known they're
being spied on by their allies so it's a big gray intelligence blob
that's a lot to take in okay um so so what what do you mean by switches you mean that whatever
mps are making private phone calls they were um so communication went through telecom switches
which were like basically bits of infrastructure technological infrastructure that sit there the
calls so someone in down in street is going to make a call in the 80s it goes through a switch
now if that switch has been loaded up with the right information on the right software
which is the software as well part of the software that robert maxwell was helping to develop
with things like promise software to spy on people at the same time we know that the
promise software at the same time was doing exactly the same thing it would go to that switch
and what we discovered is that in one case it was going to that switch and then going to singapore
in another case it was going to that switch and it was going to Sri Lanka and then back to
canada and in canada is like a backbone of the telecommunications network and from there
all of that information could be spread to wherever they wanted it to go so basically
it was costing the people who had owned a switch it was costing them three four times as much to
run that switch and they were losing money and they couldn't work out why because they were
losing so much money because it was being triangulated they were triangulating the calls
so the Mossad could listen at using canadian infrastructure and the chinese were involved
by the way just saying that's a new that's an investigation that even when i again when i put
that out it's going to be 10 years ahead of what the mainstream report none of the mainstream
will report on that they won't dare report on that they won't report on how israel and canada
was spying on britain they won't do it i can say it out loud now and it won't be in the
newspapers tomorrow because it went you know it should be though it should be that should be how
the media works it should be that someone shows something and people'd investigate and go bloody
hell that's true quick less skillet says it should be like that but johnny you know why
you're a conspiracy theorist you know you know very well why that the media the media is part
of the problem i know you know they're all it together is it your thesis that all the
intelligence agencies i mean even even the the the fsb and the the chinese and stuff they're all
they're all in cahoots children agree when when they want to be um i mean they've got to put on
the show they've got to put on the show so they have their own little like ecosystems they have
their own little pools but here and there they uh work together so one of the ways we can see
this and i think with china in particular we could probably see this from about the 1960s late 50s
60s america make this decision that they're going to go along mutually assured destruction
root with their philosophy from this point on yeah everybody fires nukes everybody's dead no one
will fire nukes so that means that more people in just more countries than just russia and america
have to have nukes so they start proliferating uh weapons technology i've got i actually ever
recently released an article on uh substack which is about benesia buto being trained by
the same people as claus wab would be in trained in harvard uh just after claus wab
had been trained and going back to leak nuclear weapons technology while her father
during this period her father was actually being given behind the scenes nuclear weapons
technology by kissinger's people as well to help with the pakistani nuclear weapons program uh zufika
ali buto um so so there's a lot of history of purposeful proliferation including with china
including with pakistan including with india including with south africa 1967 to uh onwards
till he left in the early 70s claus wab was working for his father's old firm in a merger
schulster echer weiss and that company was later it was outed in uh a swiss inquiry
that they at that time were proliferating nuclear weapons technology illegally to the
apartheid south african regime while claus wab was heading the remerger uh the merger
these companies and the reformation of these companies he was actually doing what his father
had also done with the nazis which is so proliferating nuclear weapons technology
or selling nuclear weapons technology or working on nuclear weapons technology use that word technology
um does any of this this stuff work i mean do you do you believe in nuclear weapons do you
know i'm i'm i'm i mean they've they've shown us they've shown us they've said these tests
exist and if we were to posit those tests exist and there's been loads of nuclear weapons
that have been they've gone off at least recorded between uh 1945 to 1992 or 1993
something like 2000 weapons is a meant to have gone off but what i've learned during my investigations
on everything is that you can't believe your eyes on most things you have to posit that it's either
this way or it is not so either there's been that many if there's been that many then we're not
all dead but the we could say maybe rates of autism and other things like that and idea that
things have risen quite significantly maybe that's from a multitude of different attacks on our system
and an extra amount of nuclear waste in the atmosphere could probably help with all of that
and maybe it was intentionally done to partially destroy our world so we would want to be keeping
it but maybe maybe it doesn't exist at all irrelevant to me if they're going off and they're not
going off they're not going off in south wales and they're not not going off in south wales
so it don't make no difference to me at the moment i have no idea where i you know i'm i'm well
accepting that jeffrey absteins alive and well at virginia guffrey is alive and well i i'm i i can
do you think absteins absteins in in the district of tell aviv isn't he no i think i i if he would
be anywhere i think it would be a teramar uh out in melissi a teramar now tell me about teram
what what's a teramar well um galane maxwell was working on a project called teramar it was building
a sea base out in the middle of nowhere now if you are the elites and you want to build a most
amazing sea base out in a place where no ships ever go past no planes ever go past no satellites
ever functioned to to look at you could have a life where everything goes on a whole different world
a whole different society and they were forming this they were creating this teramar was a project
and and she was she was really serious galane maxwell was really serious about teramar now
if you think okay if they're creating a place for them all to go that's impossible for us to find
or see where they can do what they want and then they all start disappearing one by one
what we're going to think is happening are we going to think that they're all dying are we
going to think they're all hanging out in a place that we could actually capture them by camera
i think they're going to be somewhere far away and i think teramar would be the bill
fit the bill so is that where bowie is what david i thought he i thought he was an antarctica
but this is i like the idea that he could be you know in a in a sort of no he's in marz
nemo type setup no he's he's maybe it's the organ maybe he's learning the organ like captain
nemo he already knew the organ i reckon he already knew yeah ground control to teramar
no actually he's probably with some of the who's rick wakeman is he dead i don't know
you know rick wakeman from rick wakeman do you know rick rick rick no no i can't do a rick
wakeman impersonation i he's got a lot or had long hair but i'm sure he played he played the organ
didn't he on on uh spiders from marz no no no rick wakeman was a different band so um which
which we tell you see i i knew you'd have to put them on listen i got a lot of songs on
teramar teramar that's so where do you think the teramar bases are in the mariana's trench or
something well if you if you actually look okay try try looking at where planes fly try looking
at where ships go and then just imagine where they would want it and i don't know i don't i
think that's going to be too far away you wouldn't want to be in the middle of yeah you
mentioned where no nobody goes nobody looks but you at the same time she's gonna they're gonna want to
go on holiday to malaga no not that malaga that's silly you know as a straw man but they might want
to go to a holiday to costa rica i don't think so i think i think i think that if you reform
or you form an entire new society that's perfect to you what of sort of pedos of such a creepy
pedos yes yes this is what this is unfortunately you know i wouldn't have even said that a couple of
years ago i would i i would have accepted that i sound a bit mad at least if i did say that but
it's pretty obvious that these guys have issues significant issues so because a lot of them
have been sexually abused from from birth pretty much they've had fractured personalities they've
unfortunately our society and even down in in standard society doesn't really protect children
and when you do try and protect children you find that the the organizations that are built to
protect children actually hinder any investigation and look after the system and the structure
itself because that's their job like yeah it but it's continued it's continued on and on in a way
that is is honestly if you see it sometimes you're just like how can these people not see
they're the evil ones but the fact is is that's the way life is and these people exist at some
point we've got to get over the fact that they believe this or they like this or they want
this we've got to get over that fact we can't understand it but it's true so we've got to
get over that fact and start them working on well if that's true what does it mean and it means that
if they are in control of society and they want to build a new society in their image it will be
pretty dark and it will be fueled from our children oh you mean they'll launch forays from
their that's what they did you know how many children go missing i mean it's insane numbers
insane people going missing is saying i can't even remember if it's children or people but i mean
for a two three-year period in america something like three hundred and twenty five thousand people
go missing across the water alone three hundred that's crazy missing people the amount of missing
people in every country is insane the i think there's a very likely that there's a whole
i mean it's not very likely it's proven that there's masses of networks that systematically groom
lure groom and brainwash children into being slaves for them that's that is what the epstein
operation was when i was writing when i was researching for one nation under blackmail part
of the thing i had to research was something that later became the epstein 101 series one of the
episodes as lou the lure grooming and abuse they were straight in they knew what they do it to lure
kids there's a technique to groom kids there's a technique they employed those techniques
systematically because they were that operation they were there grooming young girls for that
reason and looking for ones who could be used for other operations and other purposes we know
those exist we've seen them over and over again to now think that they don't exist now because we've
seen them that would be that would be crazy they are everywhere and it is systematic and out on your
streets yeah your kid might not go missing so that but that would then not mean that no kids
are going missing in the world it means that the vulnerable kids are the ones who get picked
off and there's a lot of vulnerable kids out there there's a lot of kids who don't have parents
who are very good there's a lot of parents who are just completely lost they got no they got no
sense whatsoever i go out and see some of the people on the streets they can barely look after
themselves let alone children and they got five children so i mean there's going to be loads of
things like this and if we actually examined the witness testimony epstein case they were
systematic they were going out there they knew what they were doing they knew what they were
looking for and the more you do it as well the more you detach if a girl is going every
day to a place where they're being lured groomed for sex their behaviour changes their behaviour
changes towards their family their family start to notice their behavioural change they start to
question them it separates them from their family and soon those girls or boys run away from home
and go elsewhere and then in running away from home and going elsewhere they run into the arms
of their abusers and become part of the traffic network and that is a loop that goes around
in the luring and grooming stage that also a large part of that is separating those kids
from their families and making them after a deal by different rules in a different system
and then slowly they detach them from the family until they themselves reject their own family
because they have been groomed so that's that systematic nature that's what grooming
does it separates people and those kids we don't see them as going missing either
because they've had enough of their families it looks like they've made the decision themselves
but it's a selection of illegal processes of harassment of abuse of psychological coercion
that have led them to basically feel like they are closer to these people who they've got a
twisted version of love with and sexual abuse is a twisted version of love
i went i was groomed for two years by a prolific sex offender called paul avanchi he got tried in a
court he had molested a three and a half year old the same time he was grooming me and the
things he would say to me were both horrible disgusting and twisted and loving so he would
say things that were almost like he loved me but he would describe what that was and it did not
sound like love now if then that goes on to something else that'll twist you up forever
that'll mess you up forever i mean it's hard it's hard when i know i had a very good friend
won't say his name but a very good friend who was abused all throughout being a kid
and he told me he he he now finds much older men attractive so in the 60s and 70s he often
gets with guys who he looks after as they die he's totally loving and he told me that he
didn't even think he would be homosexual if it wasn't for the abuse he thinks he would have
been straight and so there's a lot of things that happen in that process that we we we then
we no longer know how to attach a responsibility or accountability for and looks seemingly natural
you know now if you take away all of those things and you lock someone in a room when
imagine imagine they have their own terama imagine it's their rules that apply those people have
no idea what justice will be kids can be brought up in a world where they have no idea what is going on
yeah yeah now somebody just another another um digression
somebody told me about this town you'll you'll know about it in america in one of the american
states on a lake which is basically a sort of pedo this is sort of normal normalizes pedophilia
um i know i don't know about this place okay somebody watching this where i've talked about on
the previous shift the lake yeah it is it is yeah non-sale
disneyland yeah florida just florida you're talking about florida
yeah um so so these children okay so they're satisfying the perverse urges of i hate to call
them elites the predator class or whatever the there are a bunch of pervs aren't they
yeah no satisfaction i don't think this i don't think that's sort of it is i don't think the
don't think that's what it is but it's something close to that it's about compromise it's about it
what's obviously it's a lot of different epstein the most of the girls who were molested
was molested by epstein for his own personal gratification so yeah to an extent satisfaction
but it's i think gratis gratification is the perverse pleasure of bullying these these
children yeah yeah and the witness testimony a lot of the witness testimony
is a mixture between either he was extremely loving towards them and extremely caring and
like a father figure to being extremely aggressive and extremely forceful and dominating so i think
it depended on the the nature of the girl themselves how he would target them
and what age are we talking about here because we only know about virginia geoffrey when she was
17 with prince andrew i mean there must be so he seems to be he seems um and and this by a lot of
the testimony 13 to 18 same as george hunted and harford the second who uh mimicked epstein's life
in many different ways back 30 40 years before um they he liked girls prime and that was between
the ages of 13 and 18 they described as that when one girl bought home a girl who was 18 or 19
to epstein she was reprimanded told off and said don't do don't bother bringing back anyone that old
right and what about the other the other visitors to epstein island were they were they being sort
of hooked up with whatever age with epstein island is new york house was much more um the the albrillo
358 albrillo way was was a house of hell that was where the majority of epstein's victims were
molested they were groomed from the the west palm beach from the the um slum areas of palm
beach uh by all the different network the top girls that epstein had working for him and they would bring
these much younger girls into the house so most of the stuff and all of the people who went to
these places they would be uh uh some who would have said something was weird but wouldn't have
seen anything but would have seen that it was full of young girls everywhere and would have made
their own judgments from that and there was a load who would be obviously really positively smiling
about the whole thing and i'm sure they probably would be offered certain things because this was
uh everything was kind of free for epstein you know and epstein's friends that's the whole
point it's a party boat it's a place where they all go they all indulge and in that way
everybody's in it together there is no compromise they compromise themselves you you're just part of it
you know and and and he would film all this i don't i don't think so i i don't i i'd some some uh
like in fox coat house um so so i have to be careful about how i talk about fox coat house
um because i know someone who was there the night of the meeting i know i've talked to someone
i'm uh i have that person's information we've talked a fair few times he gave me a load of information
i know there was a fair few people at fox coat house um some of them were on camera units
one of those camera units was identical to one that was in uh the island houses and looked like
it had been made uh signature piece made for both places so there's obviously they they have i think
they have um back then they had rooms hooked up with cameras and the like but i think the guests
who go there know that fully well you're not going you're not going to go somewhere like that
to an obvious compromise operation and not know you're being compromised and it you have to think
about whether or not that person's bottom line is enough to accept being compromised so if it's a
senator in fox coat house and they're about to make love to the most beautiful woman who is going
to be completely nutly mind-blowing in every different way and an intellectual equal if not
superior and totally blow your mind if that is their bottom line they're on the party boat they
don't care if cameras are up they don't care they there's no chance in their life that they're
going to get to sleep with a six foot seven supermodel they they just do not care being
on the party boat it doesn't even matter anymore whether this camera is there or not
but there's gotta have been some compromise classic compromise but i think it is tongue
in cheek compromise a lot of this was just everybody was in it together if if one person
got affected the whole network got affected which is what we're seeing now so they compromised
themselves by just being a part of it that's interesting so they just sort of thought safety
in numbers yeah i can see that that on paper this looks bad if i'm filmed having sex with a underage
child say and it could be used against me but look there's x y and z and they're even more famous than
me and well even even so think about it like this so so what you just said there imagine
the process that it would have to come to the authorities or the public are seeing a famous person
molesting a child you wouldn't be able to see it anyway it would be held by department of justice
or fbi it would only be viewed by a very small amount of judges and jury if ever did come out
and likelihood is is it would only come out if it was found after someone else had been
arrested and they had found where all of this compromise was if it otherwise why would it come
out at all it it's very rare amount of circumstances that someone would use that compromise because in
using that compromise they're saying look that person did that at my house and if that person
got questioned by the police there or the fbi they're going to go in say a senator who's say
a senator has gone to albrilla way stayed in the first room in the albrilla way mansion met
epstein got given a 14 year old girl to go off make love to whatever you know i say that have sex rape
abuse you go down the thing but it's all about keywords and getting blocked online it actually
like abuses a girl gets recorded on camera yeah doing that and then epstein goes and says i'm going
to show someone that why would he do that it would compromise him it wouldn't even make sense it
have to be through like detached that would only work if they were in another hotel they were in
another house or another someone else's things and look we've got you doing this elsewhere because you
wouldn't be inviting someone over to your house to break the law you wouldn't be inviting someone over
to your house to do that if you're going to then use that against them with the authorities that
none of that makes any sense so i think once people start to actually analyze how compromise
works the idea that you would invite them over to your own house record them doing something and then
use that evidence against people that is i think that's mad yeah so just in a nutshell what what
just what was the purpose then of the of this compromise but compromised by people being involved
in in the same business you're you're you're buying people off you're not buying people off with fear
all the time if you've got a hundred different currencies and one of them is using fear intimidation
and blackmail compromise and the rest of them is just giving everybody everything they desire and
they want which one are you going to use by default it's no point in doing the negative
one over and over again especially if you want repeat business off these guys you're working
with them all the time you're friends with them all the time you want them just to be on the party
boat that's why that's why the difference between the like party boat idea comes into effect because
well the party boat is different from compromise they're not taking pictures or things like that
they're just getting on the boat and in being on that boat everybody protects them each other
automatically partially because they don't want to be caught they don't want to go down with
the enterprise but also partially because they want to continue having whatever they want they can't get
elsewhere right right can you explain to me briefly what fifth generation warfare is because
you said this is what's going on right now all these epstein revelations yeah so so the easiest
way to describe previous generations of warfare there is a full list of it you know from sticks
and stones muskets and the like there's lots of generations of warfare but a lot of it in
the past has been about kinetic warfare so it's about shooting somebody about firing a missile
at somebody it's about blowing somebody up we have battles where loads of people die because of
explosions and projectiles etc back in the day it was spears nowadays they kind of
reformed it when say worked out how uh technology will work well in the future if we have all drones
we it's very hard for us to kill each other it'll end up just be robots fighting robots mostly you
know and robots could butcher people with a hundred percent accuracy if you give if you give a man a
musket and you send him out to a field he can fire a hundred musket balls and maybe injure one
person the chance you can actually kill someone with a musket is very very small rifle more machine
gun much more but still you've only got limited amount maybe you your your shot to death
rate most will be a nought point nought nought two or something with robots is a hundred percent
they don't miss so they that warfare will be a thing in the past there's no point in just
everybody just obliterate robots just going around obliterating everybody no one would allow it
it would just go crazy and it would just be mad again it's like a form of mutually
assured destruction so they decided that there has to be other you know they posited this
beforehand it through the 50s 60s 70s it developed more and more and it's the idea of using psychological
operations it's using tactics like flooding the zone it's using mind war what's what's
starting the zone too much information yeah yeah flood flooding the zone is like what we're
seeing now with the apstein files so you got a load of unredacted court documents unredacted
flight logs unredacted it address books in the public domain you can't take them out of the public
domain they're all over the place but if you want to make it so that people don't even look at them
anymore or even though they exist you flood that zone full of other information so you redact
all of those flight logs you redact all of those stress books you redact all those court
documents and then you re-release them as though it's a special release and then you release more
files you release other crappy redacted photos and soon people cannot even find the old unredacted
stuff anymore they're too busy looking at the same thing redacted and so it's it's an amazing piece
of theater because then people are moan about the factors of redactions so then the next waves
they'll unredact it a tiny little bit more release it again so there's even more stuff out there and
then it gets to the point where then you're like no we want the unredacted files and eventually
they can release the unredacted files it's 20 years on everybody who's involved in the case
has died always too old and can claim dementia anyway and the whole thing has been blown
over just as always now in event 201 Matthew Harrington was there for a Edelman PR and
he suggested through COVID the best way to manage the information is by flooding the zone we get as
many voices as we can to say anti-vaxxers bad anti-vaxxers bad we've put all of the sanctions
we can we just flood the zone with information pro-vaccine information pro-vaccine propaganda
every single angle whether it's true or not flood out our voices me and you flood out our
voices completely flooding the zone these are all types of tactics you know back in the day the guy
who run Edelman PR the guy who created it was a guy who uh Daniel J Edelman he uh was originally
running PsyOps during World War two which is with leaflet drops over Germany trying to convince
them uh to go against him to rebel and to make him think that the the war was already over
and they were just around the corner etc and he went on to be one of the main marketers
and a lot of PsyOps a lot of fifth generation warfare tactics are just marketing tactics
they're just ways to make us change our behavior and make us think a certain way so Nudge Theory
Richard Thaler's Nudge Theory that was incorporated into governments like in America and Britain
under Cameron and Obama who uh in 2008 Edge Masterclass funded by Epstein Richard Thaler
presented six different masterclasses over six days to some of the heads of the tech industries
on how to manipulate people by using social media and poverty the is this is what fifth
generation warfare tactics are and the other thing is create the media create the masses of
the media now the main guy who's been designing this partially for tier one forces in the past
so JSOC organizations such as Seal Team Six of course tier one organizations that even above the
CIA you'll never get there's no reveal of documents from those guys completely black ops
the DIA as well were run by General Flynn throughout the Nautis is protege is Matthew Pottinger
who I've written about his father a lot John Stanley Pottinger and General Michael Flynn
has been writing about fifth generation warfare and has been involved in loads of different media
institutes for ages and ages manipulating and placing fake media people into the ifa and the
majority like you're talking it might it might be 60 70 maybe even 80 percent of the media that the
people out there are consuming that all of the indie media all of these other neo mainstream
media like Alex Jones and stuff a lot of this is all created it's all funded it's all part of
what is fifth generation warfare they need to have as many people to flood the zone when you
go to your for you page on twitter and you're looking through your for you page when a big
event happens every single account tweets the same thing they're being told and paid to tweet
that same thing and it's all of them and some of our accounts just jump on board because they're like
everybody's doing this I should do this too and those people are the people who all get recruited
afterwards those people you could just mute mute mute because they are just fifth generation
warfare accounts they're just being used and manipulated to sway the narrative whenever
they want to sway the narrative and you need to have a load of people that people trust
the Candice Owens the Tucker Carlson's you look at all of these people they've all got this point
where you get back in your oh actually that moment in their life doesn't make any sense
that moment is a bit where the you know they show for a moment like with Tucker Carlson
like the first thing he does out to university what's he do go to the CIA get told or get
refused a job or they didn't want me at the CIA boo-hoo-hoo they didn't want you at the CIA
or you actually currently still work for the CIA and he goes to Central America
it's all of it all of it is suspicious all of I mean if you if you look at any construct you can
see a point you were the pinnish a went to the school of the Americas you know you got you got all
of these different people go to a moment where they go to a training course Kissinger's International
Seminar Klaus Schwab you know these people all get trained they all get put into place but
the media is the main thing in fifth-generation warfare you can treat the he who controls really
the media controls the world it's like it's like hey that that I for that might have been on
on a truth bomb that you were on with your brother a picture of George Orwell and he who controls
the past controls the future you know that yeah that is that is very much or something
hey didn't you have a thing with kittens or something yeah there was puppies puppies that's
lovely do you think um so organizations like GB news definitely fifth generation
it stinks stinks stinks to high heaven GB news stinks to high heaven or p.s. Morgan
stinks to higher the people who aren't p.s. Morgan a load of them not all of them but a load of them
like different ones and ones who are plugging my articles elsewhere but won't talk about me on
anything or won't talk about any of our work on those because they're also also part of other
weird organizations that only use other people's work to gain credibility Mike Benz is one of
those I'd say uh he was part of the frame game which was uh a load of Jewish people
doing anti Zionist posts to make everybody think that there was more anti uh sorry anti
Semitic posts some people thought there was more anti Semitism than there actually was
it was called the frame game they were employed to do that then you look at the people who
Mike Benz pushes out people like Ryan Dawson who addresses Epstein up as just the Mossad
and makes it into an anti Semitic trope what Ryan Dawson does yeah so Ryan Dawson does that he's
pushed out by Mike Benz all the time Ryan Dawson wouldn't even talk about young commandant people
I was trying to push him to talk about it me me and him don't get on he he uh he did he did
he called uh Whitney uh a plagiarist on multiple occasions because at one time apparently there
was one line in something that she put that she didn't accredit to him in one line and he tried
to apply that to me at one point he was in an interview with Maria Farmer who had paid people
Maria Farmer had already paid people uh to to say shit about me and say bad stuff about me so
she's obviously not my friend but he she was in a podcast and he said odd they mentioned
something to do with me and he said oh they're plagiarists and like Ryan Dawson's too scared
to report on anything I report on he doesn't report on anything I report on because he's a
little chicken he's too scared to because he works for these people who are meant to he the reason
why a load of these people live uh out far away as well is because they can then get away with
doing operations you can't work domestically and I think Ryan Dawson goes under that uh that
banner it stinks of the frame game so it's not a surprise that Mike Benz who was part of
the frame game for a pro-zionist organizations are employing people like that not a surprise
that's um that's really interesting I bet you I bet you'd be a you'd be my good go to
for when I'm trying to work out who's actually for real it it seems not many of us I don't
think no no not many um I and to be perfectly honest um what I discovered is I probably
in in doing what I do I've probably got about I say about eight to eleven handlers people who come
into my life some of them are more obvious some of them are others and they try and push me in certain
ways try and get me to do some things they're employed to make certain people in the media
try and say certain things or try and do certain things or sometimes just to undermine their
platform they gain trust over time and then they try and undermine your platform so there's
a load of other players who are not even just not even in the independent media sphere maybe you
were guests maybe you were people who were writing books and stuff who also is hard to trust them
but you discover that when you've got handlers like that you know what their game is you don't
give away that you know what their game is that's so you don't just not work with people
you try and work out who they are whether you're right we watch their tactics you try to understand
what you find funny about them what you don't you're not sure about and then you decide how far
you're willing to get behind them or trust them or or be part of whatever they want to create
because it depended on how much you think that they're dodgy you have to in a sense step over
the line on many occasions doing this work and that's why I went to Rome when the Vatican
asked me to go to Rome loads of people said oh don't go don't go and I was like I'm an
investigative journalist an investigative journalist doesn't investigate by not going
into and also pasta right ask what now that's the other thing I said I could end up spending
my time in Italian prison but I could also end up spending a few days eating carbonara
yeah exactly yeah I know so why not um Johnny I've I've loved talking to you it's been really good
um um we must do it again soon I look forward to it the rain's just started
thundering down on my skylights right now so obviously uh I'm gonna be stuck in the
house for a bit but I tell you I I I have a lot of time for you James if you want to ever have
a sit down have a conversation about anything again just have a chat I love it I love you think I
do you think I'm real do you think I think I'm not I'm not I'm not mostly you're mostly real
but yeah but I mean we're all driven by we we do I'm positive that we disagree on loads of
different things and that is very human and we may hold allegiance to different people and that
is very human but you're also very human you're very I this is one of the things about your
brother as well I like I feel like I'm talking to a real person so that's a good sign
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