WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:07.620 Oh, we're back. We're back in Arizona. I am the middle of and damn I feel safer more insulated 00:07.620 --> 00:13.140 But we took time to take a trip down to Narkapoco with the Narkapoco 00:13.140 --> 00:19.200 Jeff Berwick's on going to split it to us. This is um, I'm just going to rattle off some of the issues 00:19.200 --> 00:25.500 I want to make sure that we get to and then just let Jeff monologue us all the hell, you know one I 00:26.860 --> 00:28.560 Haven't seen Jeff in a few years 00:28.560 --> 00:34.200 Go back he comes over and says yo, what's up? We're yakking and I'm looking at my holy crap 00:34.200 --> 00:40.440 You're like 10 years younger and I'm gonna put up here. I'll show you I show you this this is Jeff now 00:40.440 --> 00:45.240 He's a teenager. I mean, oh my god, you know, so he'll talk about his health stuff 00:45.240 --> 00:51.180 He's always got some health thing and unit the selling and you too can be young and whatever the crap 00:51.180 --> 00:56.460 But bottom line just looking pretty good, you know, he's taking care of his health 00:56.460 --> 00:59.940 You know, you stop drinking. I don't know if you're smoking still or whatever 00:59.940 --> 01:07.140 But there may be some secret sauce to Joe you're gonna explain it to us because I tell you from personal looking at Jeff 01:07.140 --> 01:12.960 He's a lot younger a lot healthier looking better. Just saying now a Narkapoco, of course 01:12.960 --> 01:18.980 We're gonna go over that we want to talk about a Narkapoco and its excess and the move from 01:19.580 --> 01:24.340 Akapoco after the hurricane of you know a friend down there that lived in 01:25.520 --> 01:29.640 Akapoco now this in Puerto Vallarta. She was saying. Oh my god 01:29.640 --> 01:35.640 200 mile an hour winds for six hours plus. It's like man 01:35.640 --> 01:39.240 She go, I'm glad my husband was here take care of business because I fold it 01:39.240 --> 01:46.440 They would and they were prepped up with enough alcohol and cigarettes, you know to be able to pass out the security 01:46.440 --> 01:52.620 So they they're getting paying cigarettes, you know, silver gold crypto. Yeah, we'll take cigarettes 01:52.620 --> 01:59.140 I mean, you know it. So there's that you gotta keep that in mind and then they go to Puerto Vallarta to be safer 01:59.680 --> 02:05.800 Well, then what happens? We'll talk about that too. You know how what was really going on there and who do you ask? 02:06.760 --> 02:11.620 You know, it's the taxi drivers to uber guys to the maids the concierge 02:11.620 --> 02:15.400 You know the people the staff there are not good people that live there 02:15.400 --> 02:19.580 You want to get the truth you go to the source and of course 02:20.220 --> 02:24.200 One thing I wanted to comment on are we there yet? Are we that where we're there? 02:24.500 --> 02:32.380 I mean, you know, so the beginning is nigh. We'll talk about that then the future, you know the community the Liberty community 02:33.100 --> 02:37.740 Predictions crypto, but I want to start with that one right there 02:38.780 --> 02:42.300 Anarchapoco has a lot of the English-speaking world 02:42.300 --> 02:48.400 I mean you get people from Spain and Europe and Africa and so on but it's generally United Kingdom 02:49.000 --> 02:54.920 Canada, Australia, New Zealand. I mean you got you know the Queen's money or Kings 02:55.720 --> 02:57.500 Zonda, you're printed money 02:59.000 --> 03:06.620 They're abused and they want to go to an archipelago and this has been a trend that I see from around the world 03:06.620 --> 03:09.120 generally English-speaking but 03:09.120 --> 03:16.020 You know us is represented, but I mean it's a lot of the English-speaking world looking for freedom 03:16.020 --> 03:23.460 And they find an archipelago and their fans of Jeff and you know his walkabouts with his dog and so on so they come 03:23.460 --> 03:30.500 And by the hundreds and it was a really not I'll give my opinion, but first let's go to Jeff Jeff 03:30.500 --> 03:36.240 Explain it to me man. You know what the move the first thing was you went from 03:36.820 --> 03:43.040 Archipelago, this is the first one in Puerto Vallarta. Tell us about that decision and how that worked out. Would you please? 03:44.080 --> 03:46.940 Well, it worked out very interestingly as you pointed out 03:46.940 --> 03:53.840 We had so many things happen to us in Acapulco so many that I don't think it could be called a coincidence at all at this point 03:53.840 --> 04:00.100 I even typed it into grok. I said grok if you had an event over eight years in Mexico and 04:00.100 --> 04:05.300 One of the one of the years someone was shot right before the conference and it was international news 04:05.300 --> 04:08.920 And it actually was which it shouldn't have been right. It was one person got shot 04:08.920 --> 04:12.780 But it was like top headlines all across the world 04:13.920 --> 04:20.660 Then after that we have a 7.2 earthquake right before Ron Paul stepped on stage the next year 04:21.220 --> 04:25.100 Then we got through the co-vades, which we had to hide in a place called the secret garden 04:25.100 --> 04:26.560 We were one of the only events that 04:27.120 --> 04:29.020 continued to run all through the co-vades 04:29.020 --> 04:33.960 Then we got hit by a cat 5 hurricane that came out of the blue not one person 04:33.960 --> 04:37.880 Well, I was like one of the only people who knew I don't know how I was one only people who knew 04:37.880 --> 04:43.600 But I I saw something on Twitter and I was like this looks like it's a big hurricane coming and everyone's like no 04:43.600 --> 04:47.020 No, there's nothing on the television. No one's saying anything and it was nighttime 04:47.020 --> 04:50.320 So most people just went to sleep and then as you pointed out a cat 5 04:50.880 --> 04:56.240 One of the only cat 5 has ever hit dead on on a major city before hit dead on on Acapulco 04:56.240 --> 05:00.320 It actually hit directly at Max Egan's house and then the secret garden behind it 05:00.320 --> 05:04.320 But the secret garden was not very damaged at all. It was very protected 05:05.340 --> 05:09.460 But that destroyed most of the city, but we still ran the conference that year 05:09.460 --> 05:14.280 Then the next year we got hit by a cat 3 rape before the conference, which was it actually hit twice 05:14.280 --> 05:18.820 Which has never happened before I came in flooded the city went out into the ocean 05:18.820 --> 05:23.640 Gain strength and then came back in and sat on top of the city until the entire city was under 05:24.320 --> 05:25.380 numerous feet of water 05:26.120 --> 05:30.020 So then that all happened and then we were like 05:30.600 --> 05:33.340 We're actually thinking let's get out of the secret garden. We've been here 05:33.340 --> 05:38.600 We were mostly there for the Covey's because a lot of like even the princess hotel in Acapulco said that they didn't 05:38.600 --> 05:40.980 If we had the event there in 2021 05:40.980 --> 05:46.960 We'd have to sit six feet apart and wear surgeons mask like they went totally crazy. They're like you have to wear surgeons 05:46.960 --> 05:50.880 Mass, I'm like we're not surgeons, but they didn't seem to get it and 05:50.880 --> 05:56.140 And so after a few years at the secret garden, we thought, you know, it's time for a change 05:56.580 --> 06:00.200 Let's let's go back out in public again. And then we thought well, if we're gonna do that 06:00.200 --> 06:07.640 Let's um go let's consider all our options and I we've heard so many people say that they they would come to our capoco 06:07.640 --> 06:11.360 But it's so hard to get that capoco, which has hardly any direct flights from anywhere 06:12.020 --> 06:14.040 So I thought well, let's try out Port America 06:14.040 --> 06:20.120 So we moved there this year and then right after the event on the Sunday after where a lot of people were still there 06:20.120 --> 06:21.740 It was hit by a massive 06:22.240 --> 06:27.600 Terror attack and so I took all that into grok. I said if all those things happen to one event 06:28.280 --> 06:31.480 Over an eight-year period. What would be the odds of it? 06:31.560 --> 06:35.700 And it actually came back with this exact number and said one in sixty point six billion 06:36.560 --> 06:37.080 and 06:37.660 --> 06:43.740 So I think I think it's fair to say at this point that either we're being attacked or 06:43.740 --> 06:49.560 We're causing this and actually Christoph Melchizia that because very spiritual says that we're actually causing it 06:49.560 --> 06:52.260 We're like because we bring so many like 06:53.280 --> 06:54.580 Truths and and freedom 06:55.180 --> 06:56.440 People who are very 06:56.980 --> 07:04.100 Coherence because all the stuff we believe in is all aligned with with truth with beauty with like not attacking other people 07:04.100 --> 07:10.820 Stuff like that. Whereas all these other systems in the world all are we're like a low-pressure system coming into a high-pressure system 07:10.820 --> 07:13.560 And it actually causes the stuff is what he says 07:14.120 --> 07:17.780 So it's either that or we're just constantly being attacked by the system 07:17.780 --> 07:21.360 Because there's no other way to explain how all these things keep happening to us 07:22.260 --> 07:26.520 But yeah, so we moved to Port of Arden as Port of Arden. It was actually amazing 07:27.220 --> 07:30.860 You know, I don't think you've been there last year or two if I remember correctly 07:30.860 --> 07:35.360 You weren't there last year, but it's changed so dramatically the event 07:35.360 --> 07:39.080 It's become such an incredible amazing coherent beautiful 07:39.920 --> 07:44.980 Event like you remember the old days back in like, you know, because this was our 12th year 07:44.980 --> 07:52.000 You remember in our first few years there was always some sort of drama or chaos or fighting or all these sort of things 07:52.000 --> 07:53.620 And there was nothing like that this year 07:54.640 --> 07:57.080 Well, you know, the reason I think is 07:58.540 --> 08:02.640 Well, I don't know why it's just evolved it was you know, I 08:03.240 --> 08:10.860 This year it was at a convention center a newer convention center part of my art is almost like Dubai and the construction 08:10.860 --> 08:15.660 Oh my god. I even asked asked a grok. I go, what the hell is going on? 08:15.740 --> 08:18.500 Why is there so much building said something about well, you know 08:18.500 --> 08:21.180 It's a tourist thing and it's growing and get more popular 08:21.180 --> 08:27.280 But there's also something about the world cup is coming to Mexico somewhere and that part of my art to be 08:27.280 --> 08:30.320 You know, like you're saying direct flights and it was so 08:31.140 --> 08:34.000 Convenient for us were before you know, I 08:34.920 --> 08:36.140 During covades, you know 08:36.140 --> 08:41.500 I MC'd a couple of years and what happened was my only condition was I'm not getting a shot 08:41.500 --> 08:43.800 And you got figured out somehow I get down there 08:43.800 --> 08:49.580 So I had to drive to Tijuana or drive to San Diego go across the bridge and go and we could do it 08:49.580 --> 08:55.400 Okay, well inconvenience myself enough to you know help out and do I'm just not getting the shot. Well 08:56.680 --> 09:02.580 Now part of my art that it's a direct shot from Sky Harbor Phoenix here straight into Puerto Vallarta 09:02.580 --> 09:06.940 And that wasn't that far. I mean there's a couple hours and boom. I'm going hell. Yeah 09:06.940 --> 09:12.340 This is I can see where it's more convenient because before you go to Mexico City and you wait for five 09:12.340 --> 09:18.160 Gazzillion years you get on a flight to go to Acapulco Airport and then you know the consternation there 09:18.160 --> 09:24.520 But it's um, it was more convenient. There was I tell you one thing that I noticed it was 09:24.520 --> 09:32.300 Not old but more mature crowd. There wasn't you know, the the 20-something crypto people run around all over it was more 09:32.900 --> 09:37.100 People that were seasoned probably had resources. They were there for 09:37.940 --> 09:44.140 You know the next big rich Jeff's going to make us rich thing and that's one thing that the dollar vigilante 09:44.140 --> 09:46.780 I remember that was a thing, you know 09:46.780 --> 09:48.660 I don't know when you started it 09:48.660 --> 09:53.860 But I remember a lot of love illusionaries that young guys there are all Jeff Burwick up and moving the 09:55.280 --> 09:59.880 Acapulco and you know looking for a future well the dollar vigilante 10:00.560 --> 10:05.920 Explain what that is and that community that you have in their focus. Would you please? 10:07.100 --> 10:12.240 The dollar vigilante I started in 2010. So it's 16 years old now 10:12.240 --> 10:16.800 I didn't start with any of this gray hair, although I am starting to lose my gray hair with the Tesla machine 10:16.800 --> 10:18.880 That's a whole other story, but the 10:19.880 --> 10:22.720 We started right after the 2008 financial collapse 10:22.720 --> 10:30.020 It became very clear to me at that point that this is not was going to be the last sort of big crash before the 10:30.020 --> 10:31.980 Complete collapse of the system 10:32.780 --> 10:35.160 And we're getting very very close to that now 10:35.160 --> 10:37.480 So yeah, we started that in 2010 10:37.480 --> 10:41.280 We've always been heavy into gold silver and the gold silver mining stocks 10:41.280 --> 10:45.980 Which have done incredibly well in the last year and then we're also been quite big into crypto 10:45.980 --> 10:52.760 I recommended Bitcoin at $3. I recommended Ethereum at $2. So so yeah, we've done incredibly well over the years 10:52.760 --> 10:58.440 And basically the entire newsletters about it went down to $60,000 from a hundred 10:58.440 --> 11:00.740 Yeah, you're still probably making money, you know 11:01.620 --> 11:07.360 Yeah, yeah, well we actually said we have a newsletter called the crypto vigilante because we can't cover it on the dollar vigilante 11:07.360 --> 11:12.580 And they said to sell your Bitcoin above a hundred thousand this year. So we nailed it again 11:12.580 --> 11:13.980 We we nail it all the time 11:13.980 --> 11:16.280 It's it's like the best newsletters in the world 11:16.280 --> 11:21.200 But no one really knows about it and we never get talked about because of course the powers that be don't want 11:21.200 --> 11:25.060 Anyone to know about this essentially a narco capitalist financial newsletter 11:25.060 --> 11:30.100 That's profiting from all of the destruction of all their central banking and all their big 11:30.100 --> 11:34.240 Government operations and things like that. But that's what we do at the dollar vigilante 11:35.540 --> 11:42.440 Well, this is it creates this is one thing I want to get your comment on you know when I I went to the Bitcoin 11:42.980 --> 11:43.460 conference 11:43.460 --> 11:50.860 At the invitation of Ross and Leno Brick when it was in Las Vegas, you know this last August and I saw 11:50.860 --> 11:58.000 It was so beating the drum at store of value. It's digital gold. You know, we're just going to get rich and we're integrating 11:58.000 --> 11:58.960 You know 11:59.860 --> 12:06.140 Crypto in to the government and the monetary system and that was what I was afraid of I mean for years decades 12:06.140 --> 12:09.420 I'm like I can see you know the hijacking Bitcoin thing 12:09.420 --> 12:16.040 We have Roger on a couple weeks before he got arrested after he published the book and we're working, you know with him and Aaron on 12:16.040 --> 12:22.960 You know demonstrating Zano in the agris market here in Occupy the land and at a principle, you know 12:22.960 --> 12:24.400 What it was for? 12:25.200 --> 12:26.240 Well, what happens is 12:27.180 --> 12:32.560 Now we have crypto is just it's a store of value. We're just going to get rich 12:32.560 --> 12:38.200 We're not in they just totally eliminate the peer-to-peer digital cash option and 12:38.200 --> 12:43.320 Bitcoin I would say I'll tell you what it's intrinsic value is it's worth the gold and silver 12:43.320 --> 12:45.900 You're willing to give up for its features 12:46.500 --> 12:50.840 Well, they take those features away all the things that we were you know the privacy 12:50.840 --> 12:55.160 You know the speed the cheapness all these things that were promised to Liberty community 12:55.160 --> 13:01.580 Well, you take that away and what the hell is it good for you know, and I so we're looking for the privacy 13:01.580 --> 13:06.880 Do you have you know little insight on some privacy coins where you see crypto going? 13:07.540 --> 13:13.420 You know, is it just going to be get it on your visa and get KYC on everything or you know 13:13.420 --> 13:16.580 We're gonna have something else that's Liberty community can embrace 13:17.620 --> 13:18.540 Yeah, for sure 13:18.540 --> 13:23.500 Yeah, when I started the dollar vigilante and then recommend a Bitcoin at $3 in 2011 13:23.500 --> 13:25.840 I knew people like Roger veer pretty quickly 13:26.360 --> 13:30.160 Raffaela Verde and so many and we were all basically a narco capitalists 13:30.160 --> 13:35.980 And we were super excited about Bitcoin because we saw the potential for it to become the world's currency 13:35.980 --> 13:41.480 And by doing that it would get rid of the central banks and by doing that we would downsize governments massively 13:41.480 --> 13:46.220 If not completely which would bring peace and prosperity on earth like we've never known it 13:46.220 --> 13:52.440 So we were super excited about it, but by around 2017 and this is actually just coming out the Epstein files now a little bit 13:53.300 --> 13:59.620 To some extent it got hijacked even by Jeffrey Epstein himself, which I didn't even know and 14:00.280 --> 14:03.340 We were aware of it though. Like we knew what was happening at that time 14:03.340 --> 14:06.940 We knew was being hijacked by basically the globalists or whatever you want to call them 14:06.940 --> 14:11.940 And what they did was they limited the block size to basically like super tiny amount 14:11.940 --> 14:15.280 So that it could never ever be used as a currency by 14:15.280 --> 14:21.860 everyone in the world it can barely be used by you know a few hundred thousand people really as a currency because of how 14:21.860 --> 14:29.760 Unlimited it was so we spoke up dramatically about that Rafael Leverde who is my partner at the crypto vigilante has been one of the most 14:29.760 --> 14:33.640 Outspoken people about it. He's been very against it ever since then 14:34.460 --> 14:38.960 And then over the years I've just become much less interested in Bitcoin 14:38.960 --> 14:43.020 I'm basically not interested in Bitcoin at all anymore even though we do have it in our portfolio 14:43.540 --> 14:47.560 Not right now as much because it's going down and probably will continue to go down but 14:48.280 --> 14:48.760 but 14:49.360 --> 14:54.160 For me personally I have no like the the reason I got into Bitcoin is what you just said, right? 14:54.260 --> 14:59.520 It was a way to get rid of the central banks. It was we thought it was private back in 2011 15:00.600 --> 15:04.500 We hadn't thought it through enough that you know these coin analytics 15:05.180 --> 15:09.920 Palantir type companies and governments would come together to be able to track everything so well 15:09.920 --> 15:11.200 So we thought it was basically 15:11.720 --> 15:18.060 Monero is what we thought Bitcoin was so then Monero was actually launched over a decade ago and 15:18.760 --> 15:22.420 I became incredibly interested at that point and I just every year now 15:22.420 --> 15:23.940 I'm more and more interested in it 15:23.940 --> 15:29.000 I think of it as what I thought Bitcoin was supposed to be and it's actually been doing 15:29.000 --> 15:35.920 Fairly well considering it's been delisted from almost every central exchange on earth, which should be a huge hint 15:36.680 --> 15:39.520 That is what the system does not want 15:40.600 --> 15:41.980 So yeah, I'm a huge 15:42.580 --> 15:45.920 Proponent of Monero and then there's some smaller ones that I like as well 15:45.920 --> 15:48.920 I've talked about it over the years like Pirate Chain. I still like Pirate Chain 15:49.980 --> 15:53.860 It's gone up a lot in the past and then went down a lot 15:55.040 --> 15:59.860 A R R R, you know Pirate Chain R. I thought that was cool 16:00.420 --> 16:04.920 Yeah, that's a cool meme and everything but it's actually even more private than Monero 16:05.440 --> 16:08.760 And it's got a lot of things being developed on it right now 16:08.760 --> 16:11.420 So those are the two like obviously Monero was the big one 16:11.420 --> 16:15.900 It's it's the big daddy and then like you know as far as the smaller coins 16:15.900 --> 16:18.880 I like things like Pirate Chain quite a bit 16:19.560 --> 16:23.520 And I think they will start to catch on more and more as these 16:23.520 --> 16:27.320 Governments and and things like that get more and more tyrannical 16:27.320 --> 16:33.540 I think you know if you look back at Bitcoin the reason it took off was it was mostly used on dark web markets 16:33.540 --> 16:36.780 That's what the Ross Ulbricht thing was all about of course 16:36.780 --> 16:39.740 They went after Ross they could find them because Bitcoin is trackable 16:40.540 --> 16:46.600 But now there's no dark net markets on earth that use Bitcoin. They'd be crazy to do that 16:46.600 --> 16:49.220 They'd be far too risky and they all use Monero 16:49.220 --> 16:55.340 So really we're kind of back at square one a little bit with where things are at but yeah 16:55.340 --> 16:57.700 I'm very bullish on Monero for the future 16:58.620 --> 17:06.020 You know we kind of latched on with Xano and the reason was is because it's creating an 17:06.020 --> 17:12.840 Infrastructure that we wanted to use and they got their own stable coin and they got they got they got and I 17:13.720 --> 17:19.560 Interviewed all the developers and so on it before we kind of you know went in I wanted to talk to him 17:19.560 --> 17:25.740 Why you know why are you doing this? Why why why why why well one of the main developers is 17:26.420 --> 17:33.940 Guy that created the base code for being anonymous with Monero, you know, so I'm going okay, so there's that 17:34.920 --> 17:36.200 When I talked to him 17:36.860 --> 17:40.860 It you know, of course, they're nervous. They don't want to kind of know I insist that both 17:40.860 --> 17:46.060 There was two guys one is kind of the businessman one was that you know kind of the CTO and I'm going I 17:46.940 --> 17:53.560 Want to know why I always at why do you why why why why and he was from St. Petersburg, Russia 17:53.560 --> 17:58.300 And the reason was he didn't want to be surveilled by Putin, you know, he's got you know 17:58.300 --> 18:02.900 I didn't want to be so I wanted to be private and I could do it and I did it, you know there 18:02.900 --> 18:03.920 I mean, what's the big deal? 18:05.260 --> 18:06.060 Well, he's 18:06.060 --> 18:11.840 Inundated by all these are narco capitalists and libertarians and all these principal people going goes. Hey, man 18:11.840 --> 18:17.780 I just wanted to be private. I don't tell you're talking about so I'm talking and I go and look you need to watch this video 18:17.780 --> 18:24.620 The philosophy of Liberty thing it was in Russian, you know, it's in like 45 languages. We're gonna be launching that project here soon 18:25.560 --> 18:29.640 The fifth it be where the eyes of March so Corbett and I've been working on this 18:29.640 --> 18:32.780 We can school it's a thing and we'll make sure you know about it 18:32.780 --> 18:40.080 But the whole point was is that if you know the philosophy of Liberty is about self ownership in this eight minute video 18:40.080 --> 18:44.940 That you have this Russian guy watch it in Russian and get okay 18:44.940 --> 18:48.860 I get it and when can school and did this, you know, it's long story 18:48.860 --> 18:55.180 But it was 93 goes to Russia after the Soviet Union's breaking up and he's got we got to get this now 18:55.180 --> 19:00.580 This guy was his tour guide is now a billion-air grocer and he go whoa, okay 19:00.580 --> 19:04.580 That's cool James. I was interviewing can we find out all this and what happened? 19:04.640 --> 19:10.180 He goes look this book John adventures of Jonathan gubble that you wrote that kind of Austrian economics 19:10.180 --> 19:15.040 You know what it's all about in a simple format for somebody coming out of Soviet Union can understand 19:15.040 --> 19:20.840 I need a primer. I need something. They understand your property rights tax. They know what the hell you're talking about 19:20.840 --> 19:25.940 We need to get that well somebody you know an activist then made this flash animation 19:25.940 --> 19:32.200 But would that was like a thing back in the day in the 90s and it was first translated into Russian 19:32.200 --> 19:36.280 And I'm going when I talk why why why all these people 19:36.900 --> 19:39.740 Lately or last year or so it was well 19:39.740 --> 19:44.040 I read you know like I see your book back there human action and you know 19:44.040 --> 19:47.920 I read I ran and I read and I read and I go, huh? Why? 19:48.620 --> 19:53.940 Why why why all of a sudden nighttime reading, you know, you just kind of picked it up 19:53.940 --> 19:59.840 I mean there has to be a reason and it kept coming back to they saw that flash animation that it was about 19:59.840 --> 20:05.040 Self-ownership and it kind of sent them down that road. So I'm going okay. Well, then I'm thinking 20:06.020 --> 20:10.940 America's coming out of this woke stuff and everything. It's like we're coming out of the Soviet Union 20:10.940 --> 20:16.300 I mean we need to understand the fundamental base of what this is all about 20:16.300 --> 20:17.700 They get that splinter 20:18.300 --> 20:22.040 Planet in their brain in their mind and that has legs 20:22.040 --> 20:28.780 I've seen how it's five ten years later and the same thing with a narcopoco. So the 20:29.620 --> 20:34.700 Lesson that you're trying to get the idea the philosophy the 20:35.340 --> 20:36.320 you know 20:37.180 --> 20:39.260 Understanding of what this is all about 20:39.260 --> 20:43.220 How do you do that with a narcopoco? How effective have you been? 20:43.220 --> 20:48.420 What are the issues that you focus you have a wide range of speakers on a lot of different things? 20:48.720 --> 20:52.080 How do you craft that and is it just you you got staff? 20:52.300 --> 20:57.180 Tell us about a narcopoco. Give me the elevator. They need to go next year of speech man go 20:59.220 --> 21:02.880 Well, it's changed a lot over the years as you know in the first few years 21:02.880 --> 21:09.500 It was a lot of people in like black t-shirts and get really drunk and angry about the government and you know 21:09.500 --> 21:14.940 There'd be a lot of anarcho-capitalists up there with all their slideshows showing why government is so bad for the economy 21:14.940 --> 21:17.440 Why it causes poverty and all this sort of stuff? 21:18.060 --> 21:21.840 We don't have too much of that anymore because to me that's just like obvious now 21:21.840 --> 21:27.240 Like if people don't understand that at this point, you know, they're never gonna catch up in time 21:27.800 --> 21:32.100 And what I've found is there's so many things that are related to freedom 21:32.100 --> 21:38.540 That so many incredible speakers out there and talking about what's actually going on in the world 21:39.100 --> 21:42.220 And things like that. So we have speakers like David Dyke 21:42.220 --> 21:48.520 Maxi and and all kinds of like people just talking about what's actually happening in the world 21:49.100 --> 21:51.940 And what's actually causing it and stuff like that 21:51.940 --> 21:57.520 So there's a lot of what you could call truth people and a lot of freedom people and that's basically what it is 21:57.520 --> 22:02.740 It's it's basically a truth and freedom event and we are not afraid to talk about any topic 22:02.740 --> 22:08.520 We've had flatter stuff on from the last couple years. We've had flatter debates stuff like that 22:08.520 --> 22:17.020 So it's turned from being a purely anarcho-capitalist sort of conference where we really focused on the government to a lot more about 22:17.020 --> 22:20.480 What is actual freedom and this is actually a evolution? 22:20.780 --> 22:26.260 I've gone through myself because I used to think about 10 years ago when I was drinking a lot that the biggest problem in the world 22:26.260 --> 22:28.060 Was the government's and the central banks 22:28.540 --> 22:29.980 Now I don't believe that anymore 22:29.980 --> 22:36.460 I actually think the biggest problem for almost everyone in the world is their own mind and the programming they've been put under 22:37.020 --> 22:41.760 So once I started to work on that and I did things like meditation for years 22:41.760 --> 22:47.780 I was doing between an hour and sometimes five hours a day of meditation for years and years 22:48.320 --> 22:52.860 And as I was I was beginning to like really realize a lot about 22:52.860 --> 22:59.720 What this world is and what it causes all the problems and it's usually the people actually create their own problems themselves 23:00.540 --> 23:03.480 So that's when I started talking a lot more about that stuff 23:03.480 --> 23:07.160 So then we have people coming on talking about consciousness talking about 23:07.700 --> 23:13.580 How to work on yourself self work shadow work all these sort of things and it's all kind of tied into one 23:14.120 --> 23:16.460 Week and of course we talk about other things as well 23:16.460 --> 23:23.160 We talk about crypto because privacy crypto coins could still have the potential to get rid of the central banks and the governments 23:23.160 --> 23:24.020 Which would be awesome 23:24.620 --> 23:27.580 So we talk about every single angle of things 23:28.140 --> 23:31.160 Related to freedom and not just focused on 23:31.160 --> 23:35.540 How bad the government is I think that's that's like a given at this point 23:35.540 --> 23:38.220 I think if people at this point haven't realized that 23:38.800 --> 23:40.640 They're not coming to an archivoco anyway 23:41.360 --> 23:44.800 And so we don't have to start you know at such a base level 23:45.360 --> 23:48.420 But yeah, that's what it's become. It's become a really interesting event 23:48.980 --> 23:54.940 With all kinds of incredible talks like we've we had talks on how they're injecting nano tech into people now 23:55.600 --> 23:56.460 how they're 23:56.460 --> 23:56.640 uh 23:58.200 --> 23:59.280 what kind of 24:00.580 --> 24:01.120 AI 24:02.620 --> 24:06.680 Systems they're putting into place to control people to control their minds 24:06.680 --> 24:09.920 We had people talking about what is the history of the world? 24:10.680 --> 24:14.340 Is what we're told about history true, which it's it's definitely not 24:14.340 --> 24:17.540 And then they have all kinds of incredible theories on it 24:17.540 --> 24:21.240 So so it's really encompasses everything like you were there this year 24:21.240 --> 24:26.560 Like maybe you can tell me what you kind of saw is like this huge milieu of incredible 24:27.240 --> 24:27.680 topics 24:28.660 --> 24:29.800 You know, I got to 24:30.240 --> 24:35.300 Talk to a lot of people we had a you know table out in a lobby here and I spent a lot of the time there 24:35.300 --> 24:36.400 we were doing a lot of work 24:37.440 --> 24:38.320 and um 24:38.880 --> 24:41.280 The conversations were very interesting 24:41.940 --> 24:48.040 And a lot of the people that we met at the dinners and so on you know and sitting around table and you get a 24:48.040 --> 24:54.460 You know guy from new zealand and a australian seek that you know came with a friend that 24:55.320 --> 24:58.820 It's just it's just amazing how people wind up there 24:59.740 --> 25:00.820 My impression 25:01.540 --> 25:04.880 Over the years has been that a narcopoco 25:05.420 --> 25:09.540 Was an experience that people needed like a lot of these festivals, you know 25:10.200 --> 25:14.720 You go and you find out you're not alone and that's what a lot of people are looking for 25:14.720 --> 25:17.300 Am I crazy? I mean i'm you know 25:17.300 --> 25:21.020 Am I the only one that sees and then you get all the receipts 25:21.020 --> 25:27.540 Then the details and somebody had like erin day going up and doing the epstein files on crypto of oh my god 25:27.540 --> 25:30.760 I mean it was just we had him on yesterday, you know 25:30.760 --> 25:36.680 Uh doing all that we talked before but he said just even since a narcopoco is ai 25:36.680 --> 25:40.460 Scanning all the epstein files and look at oh man 25:40.460 --> 25:48.600 Then luke nick is so deep in with epstein and the future of and tether dollar and stable coins and 25:49.280 --> 25:55.220 Him and friends get the benefit of and trump and family doing their usd1 stable company 25:55.220 --> 26:02.660 And then binance gets a pardon cz from there and then all of a sudden you find out he owns 80 percent of usd1 26:02.660 --> 26:06.560 Which is trump kind of oh my god, you know here we go 26:07.920 --> 26:15.220 Anarcopoco is a touchstone for a lot of people internationally. It's not like you know like we did our freedom summits in 26:15.820 --> 26:20.440 Here in arizona for a decade or more and all and that was a lot of the names 26:20.440 --> 26:25.240 I mean, you know, we have you know ron paul new rock. Well, you know peter shift doug casey 26:25.240 --> 26:27.220 I mean we had a lot of the guys, but it was 26:27.800 --> 26:33.320 Before they were famous, you know or in famous, you know it was before people really understood 26:33.320 --> 26:37.680 There's a people and it was still that liberty group that they knew 26:38.240 --> 26:41.900 Well, then they get confirmation our narcopoca is a little bit different 26:41.900 --> 26:49.360 What happened with the narcopoco? It is what is the philosophy of liberty? It's about it's about 26:49.940 --> 26:59.300 You decentralization of power down to the individual, you know, certainly the family community something and it encompasses a lot of other things 26:59.300 --> 27:06.620 It's like a spiritual battle against evil. It is how do you you know quiet your mind and what do you pay? 27:06.880 --> 27:10.580 What do you pay attention to and the future is about credibility? 27:11.020 --> 27:14.520 Who do you believe why are you guided by principle? 27:14.920 --> 27:18.960 You know or is it well, we're kicking ass in Iran. We win. I'm team jersey 27:18.960 --> 27:21.420 Whatever the hell the future 27:22.100 --> 27:27.660 Is abundance and I want to you know, bring it back to you on that I am looking at 27:28.380 --> 27:36.120 Especially living out on the land here that we knew that certain technologies are going to allow us to have a first world 27:36.800 --> 27:44.680 Experience is not too hungry. Not too thirsty. Not too cold. Not too hot. Not too unsheltered not to whatever and technology 27:44.680 --> 27:49.600 With the communication with satellite solar panel. I mean all kinds of stuff 27:50.140 --> 27:54.460 Gives us the ability to break away from this control grid 27:55.040 --> 27:57.760 And I'm looking for the future 27:58.500 --> 27:59.860 What do you see? 28:00.620 --> 28:05.660 Is the what are the people there for they come and they well, what's the next tip? 28:05.820 --> 28:08.320 We're going to get richer and kind of whatever and you know 28:08.320 --> 28:14.460 Hoddle our crypto and you know be worth more or are you investing in freedom at least your own freedom 28:15.160 --> 28:20.820 So the spiritual aspect that you bring to this to battle between good and evil 28:20.820 --> 28:28.280 And you know, I tell you a lot of people are starting to embrace christianity. I mean, it's really the only religion that's you know 28:30.800 --> 28:34.640 Do unto others you'd have do unto you, you know, it's a 28:36.040 --> 28:41.840 What do you say you do here? Well, not rule one. Don't be a dick. I mean, you know, this is you know 28:41.840 --> 28:49.100 What's happening and I'm wondering the spiritual aspect of this it had a big impact on you and you're seeing 28:49.680 --> 28:51.840 God's mentioned a lot even by you 28:51.840 --> 29:00.120 You know, they've got all these anarchist atheist libertarians and all of a sudden they're finding jesus. I'm wondering why did you anticipate that? 29:00.440 --> 29:01.620 Come in on that. Will you please? 29:02.960 --> 29:09.400 Yeah, that um, well for me personally it started with just doing the self work and the meditation and I got into 29:09.940 --> 29:12.020 You know deep meditations where 29:12.940 --> 29:16.760 Uh, you know, you can kind of just you kind of have this knowing 29:17.520 --> 29:22.160 You kind of this feeling of like that this isn't actually all that real 29:22.840 --> 29:27.600 And that that you're just in it for an experience and stuff like that 29:28.280 --> 29:31.360 And you know, even as a logically speaking 29:32.460 --> 29:36.380 I used to think okay, what is this world and it didn't make any sense 29:36.380 --> 29:39.240 It's like, okay, we're in a universe and it goes on forever 29:39.240 --> 29:44.020 It's like, okay. Well, that doesn't even make any sense. Like there's no wall at the end if there is a wall 29:44.020 --> 29:45.320 What's outside that wall, right? 29:46.140 --> 29:49.500 Like if you think about it logically none of it really makes any sense 29:49.500 --> 29:55.220 So I began to just you know in my meditations and stuff. It became very clear to me personally 29:55.800 --> 30:00.840 That this is like a 3d video game that is basically inside the mind of god 30:00.840 --> 30:04.480 And you know, like even coming logically I couldn't come to 30:05.400 --> 30:10.080 Like this is all just an accident. Uh, that made no sense to me whatsoever 30:10.080 --> 30:13.000 In fact, if you really think just logically 30:14.120 --> 30:17.840 Like none of this makes sense none of it at all like this was clearly created 30:18.240 --> 30:23.000 So then when you get to that you start to talk about god or whatever you want to call it, right? 30:23.400 --> 30:29.080 That some something someone whatever you want to call it created all of this and it's pretty amazing 30:29.080 --> 30:32.760 It's pretty incredible. Like even you know, the chicken and the egg like how did that? 30:32.900 --> 30:36.260 And you know, what happened they had like one had to come first, but it doesn't make any sense 30:36.260 --> 30:40.420 None of it makes sense. How is it that our body does like a trillion things in every second? 30:40.580 --> 30:44.760 We don't have to do anything at all runs itself perfectly. It's like the most incredible 30:45.320 --> 30:48.000 machine ever our brains you get into that 30:48.620 --> 30:51.800 So just from a logical basis and then getting into the meditation 30:51.800 --> 30:55.720 Um, I just it became very clear to me that this is 30:56.260 --> 31:01.900 Essentially an experience we're having inside the mind of god. So that's that's basically where I went with it. Um 31:02.560 --> 31:05.340 And I started talking about that and I think a lot of other people 31:05.900 --> 31:10.080 Have started to come more and more to those sort of conclusions and you can of course go 31:10.620 --> 31:13.380 to the more organized religion route, uh, which 31:14.100 --> 31:17.720 Have mostly been like taken over and inverted for the most part 31:17.720 --> 31:22.680 But you know, there's people who like go with like the jesus way or whatever that is and I'm like cool 31:22.680 --> 31:27.140 Because like jesus sounds awesome. He said he did a lot of the stuff that I'm all about 31:27.140 --> 31:29.580 Like do unto others and you want them to do unto you 31:29.580 --> 31:35.320 The only time he got violent was with the government about taxes and with the central banksters 31:35.320 --> 31:37.080 Uh, and that's yeah 31:37.660 --> 31:41.160 So so I'm like he sounds exactly like my kind of guy 31:41.160 --> 31:46.020 But the thing with the the jesus stuff that I find with a lot of people is they kind of get into this 31:46.020 --> 31:48.960 Oh, if I just believe in jesus then everything will be okay 31:49.720 --> 31:55.380 I'm I'm more of the belief that uh, if jesus was real, uh, because I don't believe anything about anything 31:55.380 --> 31:58.860 Like nothing in this street video game. I don't believe any anything i'm told 31:58.860 --> 32:00.820 but if he was real that 32:01.460 --> 32:04.540 You were supposed to be like him is what you're supposed to be really 32:05.020 --> 32:10.700 And I I don't see a lot of christian people actually trying to be and do the work 32:10.700 --> 32:16.340 It actually takes a lot of work. You've got to get out your program. You've got to figure out your addictions 32:16.340 --> 32:17.180 You've got to 32:17.840 --> 32:18.740 It's hard work 32:18.740 --> 32:21.980 And that's what I personally did over like a 10-year period as you mentioned 32:21.980 --> 32:23.400 I used to drink a lot 32:24.000 --> 32:28.620 And I had to do the hard work on myself the shadow work the self work 32:29.140 --> 32:33.380 The deep meditation to get to kind of like get to a new level 32:34.040 --> 32:35.440 And that I think is where 32:35.960 --> 32:42.100 Everyone should go and in fact, I actually say there's actually nothing to be done really in this world in my opinion 32:42.100 --> 32:46.620 Except for doing that work on yourself and once you do that work and you get physically 32:47.200 --> 32:48.040 Really good 32:48.040 --> 32:52.360 So you can't and you know, there's a lot of stuff so that even in the bible and stuff about you know 32:52.360 --> 32:56.120 You take care of your temple because if your temple if your body isn't good 32:56.680 --> 33:02.140 Then your mind doesn't really work all that well. And if your mind's not working all that well, you're not going to be able to get into 33:03.400 --> 33:06.240 Consciousness levels where you can really connect with the source 33:07.020 --> 33:07.440 so 33:08.000 --> 33:13.120 You know, I basically say make sure your your physical temples as good as can be then work on your mind 33:13.120 --> 33:15.760 And that's a whole other ball of worms or a bag of worms 33:16.520 --> 33:17.780 Bag of worms can or 33:21.260 --> 33:24.560 I had to close a whole other can of worms there 33:25.060 --> 33:30.940 With you know, there's so much program where we've got and also all of our traumas. That's what actually affects most people in their lives 33:30.940 --> 33:31.460 is their 33:32.420 --> 33:33.860 Traumas that they haven't gotten over 33:34.540 --> 33:39.740 And and that is so important for everyone to work on and then once you do that and if you can do that and it takes a while 33:39.740 --> 33:40.580 a thick years 33:41.360 --> 33:44.100 Then you start to be able to get into this incredible space 33:44.100 --> 33:49.840 Where you can just sit and connect more with the source in my opinion or rise up to a higher 33:49.840 --> 33:53.460 Consciousness level and then a lot of this stuff just starts to become clear 33:53.460 --> 34:00.280 So for me personally that's been the route that I've took and the fact that so many people in archipelago are kind of doing similar now 34:00.280 --> 34:02.660 I don't know if I caused that I don't think I did 34:03.220 --> 34:04.220 But it's possible 34:04.220 --> 34:07.660 I there was a lot of people came up and said I changed their lives and they started 34:08.260 --> 34:14.000 Doing things like what I was doing and then all of a sudden they've reached these sort of levels or conclusions as well 34:14.640 --> 34:18.960 But yeah, it has become a very different event from 12 years ago. That's for sure 34:19.580 --> 34:22.040 you know one thing I wanted to there was 34:22.740 --> 34:24.300 A lot of shortcuts for people 34:24.300 --> 34:31.960 It was there's always a was it um, ayahuasca and boofoo or boofoo or whatever the frog thing 34:31.960 --> 34:38.960 Which I found out that frog is here in the snoring desert. I get the monsoon. I'll be hunting me some frogs, but you know the um 34:39.460 --> 34:44.500 Main thing was is that they would take and take go through the ceremony 34:44.500 --> 34:51.020 You got to prepare yourself, you know your diet and drinking and you know water and make sure you kind of 34:51.020 --> 34:53.220 You got a shaman go through this process 34:53.900 --> 34:59.580 And I remember going on the beach in the morning. They were still be out there watching the sunrise and I just got up 34:59.580 --> 35:03.560 And they were up all all night and still under the influence and I would interview a lot of people 35:03.560 --> 35:05.980 And they hadn't come on the show and so on 35:06.600 --> 35:08.820 and it seems like these um 35:08.820 --> 35:13.180 These drugs these chemicals these plants and animals and stuff 35:13.860 --> 35:17.520 Got them to a point to where they could process information 35:18.300 --> 35:24.760 Much faster their brain opens up and all of a sudden they're processing information about their entire life 35:24.760 --> 35:30.940 And therefore I'm not going back to chicago. I mean that kind of thing and it was um 35:31.780 --> 35:39.100 That was kind of the commonality that I got that it gave them the power to process their circumstances and think 35:39.100 --> 35:40.600 critically and deeply 35:41.060 --> 35:42.300 You know over a 35:42.300 --> 35:49.820 Hour or many hours at time compressed or something and they were able to process all this stuff and then use 35:49.820 --> 35:54.100 Their brain's capacity opened up to realize some truth 35:54.100 --> 36:00.140 Then the boo boo boo boo you can tell me about that the frog thing they um 36:00.840 --> 36:05.580 It's not as long a trip. I mean it's you know the influence over an hour or something like that 36:06.160 --> 36:12.020 And these are like shortcuts to what you're talking about. Do you recommend the shortcuts for some people? 36:12.100 --> 36:16.800 It's therapeutic or you just rather do the the long haul meditation thing. What do you think? 36:17.620 --> 36:22.040 Well, I should say that when I first decided to go down this road and do the self work 36:22.620 --> 36:24.900 More than 10 years ago. I started with ayahuasca 36:24.900 --> 36:31.360 I did it twice and it gave me some incredible insights that no one would have been able to give me except for the plant medicine 36:31.360 --> 36:34.600 And actually it was to to allow others to help me 36:34.600 --> 36:40.220 It showed me that in the ayahuasca and that's what I wasn't doing. I wasn't asking for help 36:40.220 --> 36:42.240 I thought I had to figure this all out of myself 36:42.240 --> 36:46.500 But after the ayahuasca I began asking my wife for help and she started helping me 36:46.980 --> 36:54.300 And then I went on to do it bogey, which I actually do consider the most important plant medicine on earth by a million times over 36:54.300 --> 36:57.460 And it actually is nothing really all that psychedelic 36:57.460 --> 37:02.620 You just go into deep deep deep introspection for like two full days. And what's that called? 37:03.500 --> 37:05.080 Iboga it's from Africa 37:06.480 --> 37:12.340 And you basically do like a deep meditation that in some ways seems like it lasts for years 37:12.340 --> 37:17.680 Like you're in there forever. It seems and you your subconscious you look at your subconscious for like 37:18.250 --> 37:21.740 Two straight days and it's super hard because there's a lot of stuff in your subconscious 37:21.740 --> 37:26.820 You don't want to look at and that's actually your traumas and they're really hard to get to and really be seen 37:28.960 --> 37:30.820 But you can do that with the iboga 37:30.820 --> 37:37.140 So yeah when it comes to plant medicines, I would say that they can be very very very helpful to people 37:37.720 --> 37:41.260 In some ways it might be the only way for some people to actually 37:41.960 --> 37:44.120 Reach higher levels basically 37:44.740 --> 37:50.140 Especially something like the iboga because otherwise it takes years and years and it's super hard and 37:50.880 --> 37:56.180 The the plant medicines actually make you have to go through it. So you're stuck there 37:56.760 --> 38:02.300 Like I'll give you an example like I could get into meditations and I'd get into some pretty deep meditation sometimes and all of a sudden 38:02.300 --> 38:03.740 The memory would come up from my childhood 38:04.160 --> 38:07.580 And it'd be something I didn't want to look at right and it'd be like, you know 38:07.580 --> 38:12.240 I was getting beat up by my dad or something like that and and I just kind of like wins and I'd 38:12.240 --> 38:15.620 Breathe and I'd like not look at it because it was so hard to look at right 38:15.620 --> 38:19.480 Like you're a little kid getting beat up by your own father like just a you know 38:19.480 --> 38:22.420 You can imagine like how traumatizing that is right? 38:22.960 --> 38:25.440 The person who's supposed to be there to protect you right? 38:26.680 --> 38:31.760 So anyway, uh when I do that in the meditations, uh, I would I'd run away from it 38:31.760 --> 38:35.920 I just I wouldn't want to look at it. But when I did the iboga, I've done it twice now 38:35.920 --> 38:42.520 I did it once uh over 10 years about 10 years ago and I did it again just a few months ago in Egypt at the pyramids 38:42.520 --> 38:50.980 Uh and in this one it it made me look at my entire childhood for what seemed like years and look at every little detail of it 38:50.980 --> 38:52.260 Feel every emotion 38:52.260 --> 38:53.220 Um 38:54.200 --> 39:01.300 Just relive it and and and feel it again and by doing that actually ended up over the course of time healing it all 39:01.300 --> 39:06.680 And it actually changed my life dramatically afterwards. So yeah when it comes to some of these plant medicines 39:07.400 --> 39:12.380 Like there's a reason that uh some of these, you know, native americans and stuff like that 39:13.020 --> 39:18.200 Do these things they're actually like I actually say if everyone on earth was forced to do iboga 39:18.840 --> 39:24.580 We would have peace of rasterity on earth like we've never known it about a week later once they got over it and then 39:24.580 --> 39:26.200 And it recovered from it 39:26.200 --> 39:31.180 Because it will show them everything about themselves and they will be able to fix themselves 39:31.180 --> 39:36.500 And that's what I was saying earlier. Most people's problems are all caused by their own mind and that's what we need to really get 39:36.500 --> 39:37.300 um 39:37.300 --> 39:42.560 repaired or fixed or healed you could say in order and then once you do that though 39:43.040 --> 39:48.400 Incredible things happen and you mentioned that some of these people were able to process massive amounts of information 39:48.960 --> 39:56.860 Yeah, you can almost become like superhuman as you do these different levels of of self work basically what you can do with plant medicines as well 39:57.700 --> 40:02.100 You know, I've been invited, you know a bunch of times, you know, come on Ernie come on come on 40:02.100 --> 40:07.320 And I just haven't had the time. I mean, you know, it's like I got responsibilities. I got to do stuff 40:07.320 --> 40:10.500 It's not that you know, I wouldn't try it. It's just that 40:10.960 --> 40:15.420 You know, and I'd love to have a shaman somebody experienced friends 40:15.420 --> 40:19.620 Come out here on the land and do that feel safe and Donna baby sent me 40:19.620 --> 40:22.400 But you know, it's also I'm like 40:23.020 --> 40:29.040 I don't know. I need my pain. I mean, you know, a lot of what my life experience brought me to where I want to be now 40:29.040 --> 40:32.280 I'm not sure I would benefit or I don't know 40:32.280 --> 40:36.320 But you know, it everybody that I talked to there was a benefit 40:36.320 --> 40:42.800 They they got the process now some people they're they're they're coming up against their demons or whatever, you know, they 40:43.360 --> 40:46.660 It's uncomfortable. You got to go through that and then, uh, you know 40:47.180 --> 40:53.120 I don't know anyone that's done it once that says they wouldn't do it again. Have you come across those people go? 40:53.480 --> 40:57.800 Okay, I'm glad okay. I'm not doing that anymore. Have you gotten that response? 40:59.020 --> 41:04.820 Well, I was one of those people after the first time I did a boga it picked the crap out of me so badly because I needed it 41:04.820 --> 41:05.680 I was basically 41:06.200 --> 41:07.200 depressed and 41:07.200 --> 41:13.900 Suicidal and didn't want to live and all those sort of things and I did it as a last resort and it kicked the crap out of me 41:13.900 --> 41:18.740 It made me look at everything so much and it was super hard and when I was done 41:18.740 --> 41:22.560 I said I'll never ever ever do that again and it's because it was so hard 41:22.560 --> 41:29.020 But what I didn't realize is all the things that ended up happening over the next 10 years was because of that work 41:29.020 --> 41:32.560 I did with the a boga and then I got to the point where uh, 41:32.560 --> 41:37.060 Christoph Mckiesedek was doing it in Egypt right at the pyramids and I 41:37.540 --> 41:41.600 I'd said even months before that I'll never do a boga again. It was way too hard 41:41.600 --> 41:47.500 But he kind of convinced me. He's like don't worry. You've you've done enough work now that it won't be that hard this time 41:48.060 --> 41:53.880 So I tried it again and it was still very very hard, but nothing like the first time but yeah, that was uh 41:53.880 --> 41:56.660 You know, so I was even like I'll never do that again 41:56.660 --> 42:03.920 But what I will say is that the uh, all the experiences I had from all of them and I've done most plant medicines now 42:03.920 --> 42:08.620 All have been very beneficial and definitely nothing negative for me at all 42:10.440 --> 42:12.400 That's I you know, I'm 42:13.460 --> 42:20.000 I'm willing to experiment with you know, people I trust that you know know what's up, but um 42:20.740 --> 42:21.580 I like 42:22.280 --> 42:28.180 My clarity of the I I think I get it, you know, I don't get all you know 42:29.020 --> 42:30.120 hyperbolic about anything 42:30.120 --> 42:31.100 I you know, I just 42:31.700 --> 42:38.780 Here it comes and we got to get ready for that's what you know occupy land things about but I'm I'm just like um 42:39.280 --> 42:45.640 What do you see the future is going to be your experiences talking to people around the world all the news that we got 42:45.640 --> 42:51.180 What happened part of my art to Ecuador now? Oh my god, you know Iran Russia China 42:51.180 --> 42:57.720 I mean, it's like damn, you know our bingo card is full. So I'm just this has been 42:58.360 --> 42:58.840 um 42:59.380 --> 43:04.680 A dampening effect on a lot of people about the future and I'm seeing abundance 43:04.680 --> 43:08.280 I mean it it you know this too shall break. What's your opinion? 43:09.700 --> 43:12.900 Well at the heart of it, I actually don't worry about anything 43:12.900 --> 43:15.220 This is all an experience that we're meant to have 43:15.840 --> 43:18.920 This we all have our own true man show in my opinion 43:19.640 --> 43:25.420 And it's perfectly tailored. We have to go through exactly what we have to go through some of it's very hard 43:25.420 --> 43:29.640 In order to learn in order to power up to the next level and stuff like that 43:29.640 --> 43:32.300 So when it comes to like what's going to happen with the world 43:32.860 --> 43:40.200 Um, I don't worry about it whatsoever. Um, I know that this is actually not fully based reality 43:40.820 --> 43:45.340 Even as jesus would say he said I am in this world, but not of this world and 43:45.880 --> 43:48.000 You know when you come to that realization 43:48.520 --> 43:52.140 You don't worry about a thing. Um, and that's not to say that I don't 43:52.640 --> 43:53.260 You know 43:53.840 --> 43:56.000 Take care of things I need to take care of 43:56.000 --> 44:00.500 Like I'm living on a ranch with a blue roof right now for the directed energy weapons 44:01.000 --> 44:03.860 I'm growing all my own food because they're poisoning the food supply 44:05.360 --> 44:07.000 I uh, you know 44:07.560 --> 44:11.320 I'm I'm doing all those sort of things. So it's not like I like I'm 44:11.880 --> 44:14.260 Completely like just like I'm not worried about a thing 44:14.260 --> 44:18.400 But I you know inside the video game inside this experience inside this true man show 44:18.840 --> 44:21.120 um, I do, um, you know 44:21.780 --> 44:26.000 Pay attention to everything going on and and be careful and you know that sort of a thing 44:26.720 --> 44:31.840 But at the end of the day, I don't worry at all because uh, there's only one thing 44:31.840 --> 44:36.220 This is the realization I've come to over the years is there's only one thing that exists 44:36.220 --> 44:39.700 Uh, there's only one thing that's ever existed never will exist and that's consciousness 44:39.700 --> 44:45.140 And that's what we are and we're having just this experience inside consciousness and and I think 44:45.140 --> 44:50.920 In some respect all this stuff going on like just look at how tyrannical like even when we were talking about freedom 44:50.920 --> 44:56.500 Like 20 years ago, uh, we I don't think we could ever imagine like everything that's happened in the last five or 10 years 44:56.500 --> 45:01.620 The Kobe side. I can't believe that even happened. They locked down the entire world over a fake 45:01.620 --> 45:04.720 Sort of virus thing and then tried to inject everyone with poison 45:04.720 --> 45:09.220 They gave them french fries to do it and they did it. Um, like we're living in 45:09.220 --> 45:11.360 Krispy Kreme donuts. He almost had me there 45:13.340 --> 45:14.520 Yeah, so like 45:15.040 --> 45:19.440 Like I couldn't even imagine this stuff like 10 or 20 years ago and now we're living in it 45:19.440 --> 45:21.620 I think it's you know, it's just all part of the video game 45:21.620 --> 45:26.380 Like and I think what we have to do right inside the video game is figure out our own path and you know 45:26.380 --> 45:29.780 First of all, uh, making sure you never sell your soul and that would be 45:29.780 --> 45:32.340 You know doing something that's not right 45:32.340 --> 45:35.860 In exchange for some sort of profit to yourself like money 45:35.860 --> 45:39.020 Most people on earth have already sold their souls from in various ways 45:39.620 --> 45:45.680 Uh, so keeping your soul intact and then figuring out the video game figure out exactly what's going on and like 45:45.680 --> 45:49.940 Trying to weave your way around all of the massive massive 45:50.580 --> 45:54.500 Like stuff like like they're chemtrailing most of the world right now. So what are you going to do with that? 45:54.620 --> 45:56.400 Well, you better be detoxing. That's for sure 45:57.420 --> 46:01.680 They're trying to inject everyone with poison to try to inject people with nanotech. And what are you going to do about that? 46:01.680 --> 46:05.800 Wait, you said you better be peacoxing. What what the hell is that? What detoxing? 46:06.180 --> 46:10.500 Uh, you know with the chemtrails you're getting a lot of aluminum and stuff into your body 46:10.500 --> 46:14.160 You can actually detox a lot of it out even with just things like saunas and certain 46:14.740 --> 46:19.600 You know heavy metals sort of detox sort of things. Um, so yeah, you have to learn all these things 46:19.600 --> 46:23.620 They're poisoning the food supply. So what are you going to do? You're going to go live on the land grow your own food 46:23.620 --> 46:28.520 Okay, now you've passed that level, right? So and then kill gates is trying to block out the sun. What are you going to do? 46:31.660 --> 46:37.260 It's amazing like it's incredible and uh, it's so much fun to try to win this video game 46:37.260 --> 46:40.960 That i'm just enjoying playing the game. That's really all i'm doing at this point 46:41.780 --> 46:44.520 You know, I think people are influenced by your 46:45.520 --> 46:51.940 positive aspects on this and point out what is and isn't you know important, but um 46:52.500 --> 46:59.760 The health thing, you know, that that's always been a theme of narcopoco. It seems and a lot of it, you know clean food and you know 46:59.760 --> 47:00.300 living right 47:00.300 --> 47:01.360 but um 47:01.360 --> 47:06.320 You you look I I wanted to mention that top of the show. I'm just going look at jeff 47:06.320 --> 47:10.080 I mean he looks younger than what I mean. I'm sure you know cutting alcohol didn't hurt 47:10.080 --> 47:15.440 But you know, he's always got something up there kind of you know, the tesla plasma of whatever and 47:15.440 --> 47:19.520 There's a whatever and take this whatever and supplement whatever and you need more testosterone 47:19.520 --> 47:21.080 I mean, you know, whatever it is 47:21.080 --> 47:27.680 But let's talk about the tesla plasma machine that thing was not free. It's like 11 000 dollars 47:27.680 --> 47:32.380 One of the guys bought it and he put it under our ticket. I store this here. Yeah, whatever it's kate 47:32.380 --> 47:36.320 I'm like damn did it have it? Well, yeah, I thought it was pretty worth. I wouldn't bought it 47:36.320 --> 47:41.340 You know, so go ahead and I'll let you do you commercial on this thing just because 47:41.340 --> 47:46.640 You know, it's a thing but go ahead and tell people what that was about and I'll pull up your site here for it 47:46.640 --> 47:47.120 Let's see 47:47.120 --> 47:52.080 Well, I shouldn't say like I'm not involved with the tesla club like um, I just 47:52.500 --> 47:56.120 I've become like a member basically. I was like one of the first members 47:56.120 --> 47:59.440 They they came to me and they showed me the machine about two years ago 48:00.020 --> 48:05.340 And uh, I was just like most people they're like, yeah, here's basically everything at the age is you all this sort of stuff 48:05.340 --> 48:07.800 And I was like, yeah, yeah, I hear and all kinds of stuff like that 48:07.800 --> 48:13.200 And uh, they gave me one of the machines and um, I actually healed my dog bruce lee's eye 48:13.200 --> 48:17.180 Which was completely white within two days with it and I was like, oh, that's interesting 48:17.840 --> 48:20.820 And then I had a maid who had a bad back for more than a decade 48:20.820 --> 48:24.520 And she was just about to quit and I put it on her back for 15 minutes 48:24.520 --> 48:27.620 And she's like the next day she was lugging 48:28.160 --> 48:31.560 Large packages around the house. No problem. She's been fine ever since 48:32.240 --> 48:37.380 So I went and I've used it with like probably hundreds of people now and every almost every time 48:37.380 --> 48:41.700 It cures whatever their problem is so I was like, okay, this is real 48:41.700 --> 48:46.080 So I I was talking to them. I'm like, you guys got to get this out to people and 48:46.080 --> 48:49.000 And they were like, well big farm old probably kill us 48:49.000 --> 48:53.520 So, you know, if if they find out who we are and I'm like, well, you guys are smart at narco capitalist type people 48:53.520 --> 48:56.160 I met them at narco poco. I said, you know 48:56.580 --> 49:01.640 To an underground people can pay with Monero. You ship it anywhere in the world as a science kit 49:01.640 --> 49:05.220 Uh, it actually looks like it's nothing too special too to get by customs 49:05.980 --> 49:11.680 Um and all that kind of stuff. Um, so yeah, like I've just been helping them along the way because I believe in it 49:11.700 --> 49:15.060 So much I think it's so like to me personally, this is the biggest 49:16.300 --> 49:18.680 Re rediscovery of our lifetimes by far 49:18.680 --> 49:24.060 There's nothing that even comes close and I say rediscovery because I think people used to have access to this stuff because 49:24.060 --> 49:26.720 Nikola tesla did it about a hundred years ago. He had 49:27.300 --> 49:28.360 basically tesla 49:28.900 --> 49:34.880 Plasma machines back then and then donald trump's uncle and the cia came in and stole it and they've managed to keep it 49:34.880 --> 49:37.620 Mostly hidden from him humanity for about a hundred years 49:38.120 --> 49:41.740 But a a mad scientist in mexico a literally crazy guy 49:42.340 --> 49:48.280 Stumbled across a way to create not only the plasma that nicola tesla was doing but like way more effective 49:48.280 --> 49:52.600 Way stronger and it could run way longer because the old machines could run for like 10 minutes 49:53.280 --> 49:57.400 But this one can run for like all day if you want and um, and so 49:57.920 --> 50:01.180 They just started doing it about a year and a half ago just putting it out 50:01.180 --> 50:07.140 And so many people have been healed from it now that like paralysis people people couldn't walk dogs who couldn't walk 50:07.620 --> 50:09.660 All of a sudden now can walk. Um 50:09.660 --> 50:15.700 People are gonna have to legs amputated and then a few weeks later. They're like walking miles a day and they're fine 50:15.700 --> 50:18.640 Uh, multiple sclerosis lady, you know the mechanism 50:19.780 --> 50:26.040 The mechanism is tricky, uh, because it's nothing that you can fully explain 50:26.580 --> 50:33.800 Basically, uh, when you look at plasma and what nicola tesla said about plasma and you know plasma used to be talked about quite a bit 50:33.800 --> 50:38.140 Even ether what used to be in the periodic table of elements and stuff 50:38.140 --> 50:41.520 And they actually took it out about like when rockefeller took over all the medicine stuff 50:42.200 --> 50:45.740 Like a hundred and some years ago. Uh, they they hid all this stuff 50:45.740 --> 50:49.340 But basically what it appears to be is 50:49.960 --> 50:51.640 It it appears to read 50:52.360 --> 50:55.660 Um, take your cells which most of our cells like I'll give you one example 50:55.660 --> 51:00.180 I did a uh quantum biofeedback machine one year after I had the tesla machine 51:00.180 --> 51:03.120 I used it almost every day because it gives me incredible energy 51:03.120 --> 51:08.380 Like insane amount of energy like I can just go like all week in narco pogo. It was like no problem 51:08.380 --> 51:09.940 What's why I just go go go no problem 51:09.940 --> 51:16.120 Uh, because I have so much energy from the machine and I did the uh quantum biofeedback machine last year to narco pogo 51:16.700 --> 51:19.940 And uh, I'm 55 years old. I was 54 last year 51:19.940 --> 51:25.460 And uh, my tissue age was the same as a 30 year old and I had the energy in my cells of a 10 year old 51:25.460 --> 51:30.320 Um, and that's exactly what I was feeling and actually I could I can just like I've 51:30.320 --> 51:32.980 It seems like I'm de-aging in so many different ways 51:33.800 --> 51:39.300 And what we think or no one knows exactly but it appears the plasma which you can get out of the ether 51:39.300 --> 51:44.420 So it's all around us. Uh, that's the incredible thing. That's the most beautiful thing about all this stuff is 51:44.420 --> 51:48.840 You know, you have big pharma and the doctors and the guys in the butcher coats with the really bad handwriting 51:48.840 --> 51:52.980 And they'll tell you they can't cure anything big pharma has never cured anything ever 51:52.980 --> 51:57.460 But they've got a million pills that'll make your life maybe a little better and then worse later 51:57.460 --> 52:00.240 And then, you know, you'll be broken dead at the end of it 52:00.640 --> 52:03.740 When we actually have all that we need all around us 52:03.740 --> 52:09.740 we just need a way to be able to grab that out of the ether and that's what the the tesla machine does and 52:10.420 --> 52:16.580 What it basically does is it appears to revert your cells back to full functionality because most sickness 52:17.060 --> 52:24.620 Is actually just because people's cells their body just isn't operating properly because it's toxic with either 52:24.620 --> 52:30.100 All the toxins that is all around us with everything or even emotional toxins and and 52:30.100 --> 52:32.640 emotional trauma can actually 52:33.240 --> 52:37.740 Be in your body. Um, so every what we think we don't know 52:37.740 --> 52:41.440 Is that it resorts your cells to like full electric 52:42.060 --> 52:47.200 Functionality again and when your body does that your body can heal itself of anything your body is an incredible 52:47.940 --> 52:48.460 magical 52:49.800 --> 52:54.080 Mystery basically like like what else do you have like? I don't know how you are Ernie 52:54.080 --> 52:58.700 But like I don't have anything that's 55 years old that I haven't really taken all that much care of 52:58.700 --> 53:02.260 That still runs like awesome except for my body, right? 53:02.720 --> 53:07.600 Like like everything else breaks after a couple of years. It just gets old or creaky and just dies 53:07.600 --> 53:10.080 You got to replace parts and all this sort of stuff 53:10.080 --> 53:11.480 But this body is amazing 53:11.480 --> 53:18.620 But what we have to do is be able to make it run optimally and of course there's other things involved in that like diet and exercise and stuff like that, but 53:19.680 --> 53:23.480 Most of the problems that people have is because their body is just toxic 53:23.480 --> 53:27.620 And it could be like I said physical it could even be emotional or trauma based and this 53:27.620 --> 53:31.540 Plasma out of the ether appears to bring those 53:32.120 --> 53:33.640 parts of your body back to 53:34.160 --> 53:39.600 Full function and when it does that whatever dis ease that the doctors and the butcher coats tell you have 53:39.600 --> 53:42.680 Which is just a description of a problem that you have 53:43.180 --> 53:50.360 Usually seems to go away because the body can actually heal itself if it has the energy and the and the full functionality to do it 53:50.360 --> 53:53.660 Uh and so that's what we think it does, but we don't really even know 53:53.660 --> 53:59.680 It's incredible. What do you what do you think it is that had the biggest uh, and I you know, I don't want to 54:00.160 --> 54:04.160 Harp on it too much, but when jeff came over just hang 54:04.980 --> 54:09.700 Conversation we're setting up and so on. We're just yakking. I'm looking at I'm like a holy shit 54:09.700 --> 54:13.400 You look like 10 years younger when I saw you laugh. What do you think? 54:14.340 --> 54:19.740 Was mostly responsible for that was your emotional state, you know your cleansing of your mind 54:20.360 --> 54:21.760 Getting your mind right 54:22.860 --> 54:29.360 Detoxine the plasma thing all combined no alcohol. I mean you you went full tilt on 54:29.900 --> 54:34.000 Getting healthier and better, but what do you think was the most effective thing? 54:35.100 --> 54:39.000 Well, I would say it's all of it for sure. Definitely stopping the alcohol 54:39.640 --> 54:41.600 Was a huge power up for me 54:42.200 --> 54:46.740 Then I got a much better diet then I started exercising and then I kind of went pretty 54:46.740 --> 54:50.220 Wild with all kinds of things. I've got a hyperbaric chamber in my house 54:51.140 --> 54:55.880 I've got a lot of good things about that. Yeah, I've got a steam room and a sauna 54:56.440 --> 54:59.440 I've got a cold plunge pool. So I do all those things 55:00.030 --> 55:01.960 And those have definitely all contributed 55:01.960 --> 55:08.680 But I would say the biggest change has been since I've had the tesla machine two years ago because I couldn't actually do 55:08.680 --> 55:11.820 A lot of those things because I I felt kind of like sluggish, right? 55:11.820 --> 55:17.820 Like I actually spent three to four hours a day in my spa gym every single day doing all these things 55:18.660 --> 55:23.420 But I I never had the energy to do it before but once I had the tesla machine all of a sudden 55:23.420 --> 55:27.960 I had like just basically unlimited energy. So I'm like, yeah, I'll go to the gym. I'll go on the treadmill 55:27.960 --> 55:33.020 I'll lift some weight. So I'll go in the steam room. I'll go on the sauna. I'll go in the cold plunge pool 55:33.020 --> 55:36.520 I'll go get some sun outside. I'll go in the hyperbaric chamber 55:36.520 --> 55:42.500 Just like everything just seemed so easy once I my body was just working so well with so much energy 55:42.500 --> 55:49.440 So yeah, I would say it's it's definitely a combination of things but by far the biggest difference has actually come from the tesla machine 55:50.580 --> 55:52.000 Well, a lot of the 55:52.680 --> 55:53.460 this uh 55:53.460 --> 55:59.060 Work you do on yourself and people should do and they get their mind and bodies right and so on 55:59.640 --> 55:59.920 it 55:59.920 --> 56:03.240 In america, we are so 56:04.440 --> 56:04.960 Inundated 56:05.440 --> 56:11.920 It's in the water. It's a fluoride. It's the chemicals. It's a centralized. We got, you know, a water 56:12.460 --> 56:18.620 Treatment plant for you and you have the air. I mean, I'm out here in the desert and I'm like, damn 56:18.620 --> 56:22.560 There'd be chem trail and something, you know, I take some pictures and I say I go 56:22.560 --> 56:27.300 What the heck is that and you can see it kind of go you could spirits. I'm going. Hey, man 56:27.300 --> 56:34.280 I'm just saying this is not normal. This is abnormal. Okay. I'm just like this is not what I grew up with 56:34.280 --> 56:35.240 I'm just saying 56:35.880 --> 56:41.480 Well, what do you think? I don't know, but it ain't normal and then you have what's in our food 56:41.480 --> 56:43.620 What's in our in our in our 56:43.620 --> 56:45.780 After you do this 56:47.020 --> 56:49.840 I'm wondering can you do it in america? 56:50.720 --> 56:55.960 Is it even possible to get away from a lot of this stuff? I mean, you know, we do you don't hazard gardens 56:55.960 --> 57:01.920 And you know, we do the best we can but you know, I'm is there another place to be as america it 57:01.920 --> 57:04.140 When I was on the beach in panama 57:04.140 --> 57:10.180 Doing a little walkabout about what was going on in Puerto Vallarta with the the violence on if there was any 57:10.180 --> 57:15.850 I mean, there was definitely smoke every half mile. They made sure, you know, it looked like a gauze, but the um 57:17.200 --> 57:18.000 As i'm 57:18.000 --> 57:21.880 Doing that i'm just is it america. Is that where we got to be? 57:22.100 --> 57:26.680 Is it mexico? Is it somewhere else? Is it anywhere? Is it space? Is it out in the ocean? Is it? 57:26.920 --> 57:28.020 You know, where's your community? 57:28.020 --> 57:31.820 Where's galt's gulch and you got to find it or can you create it yourself? 57:32.100 --> 57:36.260 You know in your own area by doing the work on yourself your body your mind 57:36.850 --> 57:40.420 What do you think is there, you know, do we got to occupy the land? 57:40.780 --> 57:46.040 Somewhere else or not even the land or space or go orbit mars mining asteroids 57:46.040 --> 57:50.160 I mean, what is it that you think that we should be focused on? 57:51.100 --> 57:54.240 Where we try and be free is there a place? 57:55.480 --> 57:59.080 Well, I would start with everyone needs to really do the work on themselves 57:59.080 --> 58:05.620 Uh, we're just talking about to get out all these programs and get it physically mentally and spiritually really good 58:05.620 --> 58:10.200 And then actually all this stuff becomes very, uh, obvious. You see signs and symbols 58:10.200 --> 58:12.380 You get all kinds of downloads and stuff. So 58:12.880 --> 58:18.520 Uh, like I would say like there is no one place, uh, that is, you know, safe, uh, there, you know 58:18.520 --> 58:23.660 And we didn't come to play this video game to be safe anyway, uh, but 58:24.480 --> 58:27.700 I would say for the most part trust your intuition and your gut 58:28.360 --> 58:33.300 So, you know, if you feel like that's where you should be and you've done that you sit there, right? 58:33.400 --> 58:34.780 You're like meditating in the morning 58:34.780 --> 58:39.960 You're just like for an hour and you're like, you know, just trying to feel and you even ask the question 58:39.960 --> 58:43.200 You know, should I be here and all of a sudden it becomes this like 58:43.800 --> 58:48.060 Your body feels it and it goes. Yes, you're supposed to be here. Then that's where you're supposed to be 58:48.060 --> 58:52.380 So that's that's what everyone needs to do. You really need to go inside for the answers 58:52.980 --> 58:55.380 Um, and there is no safe place 58:55.860 --> 58:57.860 But if you do the work, uh 58:58.380 --> 59:01.240 Really, there's nothing ever to worry about at all. Um 59:01.740 --> 59:09.580 And even inside this video game if you do the work, you actually get through everything you actually get you become like superhuman if you do the work 59:10.480 --> 59:12.460 Sort of like being a Jedi like 59:12.960 --> 59:18.000 Like even with the port of air to stuff, right? Like nothing happened to any of our people and I think, uh 59:18.000 --> 59:21.120 Big part of that is because a lot of us are doing the work 59:21.120 --> 59:24.260 And so a lot of our people just walk through it like no problem 59:24.260 --> 59:26.980 And you know, it really wasn't a major massive event 59:26.980 --> 59:30.940 It looked like it was at first and and of course in the news they said it was 59:30.940 --> 59:35.580 It was just a bunch of buses on fire for the most part. Um, but because a lot of us 59:36.180 --> 59:43.040 Located to make sure the town looked under smoke of I sit there and watched it from Panama and I'm going 59:43.600 --> 59:48.380 Oh, this is so manipulative staged up. There's something, you know, Trump 59:48.380 --> 59:53.960 You got to get rid of the fentanyl deal with the president of Mexico and take out one guy do 59:53.960 --> 59:56.200 Kind of them will do Ecuador, Venezuela 59:56.760 --> 01:00:03.000 Iran kind of there's a thing and I'm just this is not, you know, what they're trying to depict 01:00:03.600 --> 01:00:07.440 And I just that let let's get to that real quick 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:10.920 I don't want to spend a lot of time on it because it just make you talk about it 01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:14.740 But, um, are you going to go back to part of our tell you think next year? 01:00:15.560 --> 01:00:19.660 Well, one of the interesting things was there was still a lot of people there when this terror attack 01:00:20.080 --> 01:00:25.680 Happened, which was mostly staged. It was mostly a show. Um, and it was done on purpose for 01:00:25.680 --> 01:00:27.320 Yeah, mostly theater 01:00:27.980 --> 01:00:33.880 And most of our people didn't fall for in fact max zegan was out right as it was happening just with his camera laughing 01:00:34.420 --> 01:00:37.780 A lot of alternative media people were there and they're going out and showing 01:00:37.780 --> 01:00:41.480 It's like there's nothing really happening. There's just a bunch of buses that are on fire and then 01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:46.180 Actually another person went out and he saw that a bunch of the windshields were all melted and stuff 01:00:46.180 --> 01:00:49.740 So we actually suspect there might have been directed energy weapons involved 01:00:49.740 --> 01:00:55.280 But they actually picked the worst place to do this this thing because all of us are like used to this stuff 01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.260 And we've all done the work. We're not scared of anything. We're not fearful 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:04.180 We're investigative and all that sort of thing. So it's kind of interesting like even a day after that happened 01:01:04.180 --> 01:01:08.060 There was still a lot of people there and a lot of them went to max's bar that night and they're all like 01:01:08.060 --> 01:01:13.420 Yeah, I can't wait to come back next year. Even though it was like, you know, this terrorizing event, right? But 01:01:14.120 --> 01:01:18.800 So yeah, most people I actually asked at the end of the event and this is before the terror attack 01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:23.220 But I think it's still the same that most people would like to have it back in port of ireta next year 01:01:23.220 --> 01:01:24.340 So we probably will 01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:29.340 Where we have it that's up for debate. We're going to be sending out a survey to everyone who came to the event 01:01:29.900 --> 01:01:36.820 We're thinking we might even do it outside of like port of ireta itself and like san poncho and areas like they're on the 01:01:36.820 --> 01:01:40.600 On the coast there about 45 minutes from port of ireta 01:01:41.100 --> 01:01:46.640 But that's all to be decided. But uh, yeah, so okay, I want to have a vote. I get a vote 01:01:47.540 --> 01:01:53.660 Everyone gets a vote, you know, we we all believe in the democracy, you know, like that's democracy is, you know, the most important thing 01:01:55.420 --> 01:02:01.740 You know my thing I I really like the uh, an orc apoco because it was 01:02:02.720 --> 01:02:03.200 um 01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:09.380 Broke up into a lot of different groups you get to meet people and talk and so on you go see what you want to see 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:10.960 and um 01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:16.380 You had the beach and it was on you the vendors the massage tables you got the 01:02:16.940 --> 01:02:20.560 Different resorts or different things that you've done in the past on the beach 01:02:20.560 --> 01:02:23.800 This wasn't on the beach now. We were next to the beach 01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:29.520 I mean you could go to the beach if you wanted to but to have it at a resort that was on the beach 01:02:29.520 --> 01:02:35.380 Added something to it and also kept a lot of the people in the same place that you could do that 01:02:35.380 --> 01:02:42.860 It was it was pleasurable. It was nice. You really taxed out the taxis and the uber's but the um 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:50.020 It was it was pleasant. It was nice. I mean if it was there again, you know, I think it'd be cool 01:02:50.560 --> 01:02:55.780 But I'm really like the the beach experience that there was one thing that I missed, you know 01:02:55.780 --> 01:03:02.580 And if that could be accomplished that would be cool. Um, there is a lot of um 01:03:03.980 --> 01:03:07.400 Predictions that I wanted to just get your opinion on 01:03:08.940 --> 01:03:15.900 You know you talk about all the political stuff, you know the midterms and this guy said that and who gets prosecuted and 01:03:15.900 --> 01:03:22.240 You know, are you gonna arrest anybody about anything and aren't you know in the wars and rumors of wars and all this stuff? 01:03:22.300 --> 01:03:26.780 It just it seems to me. What if they had a war and nobody came or cared? 01:03:27.120 --> 01:03:34.260 You know, and i'm feeling that i'm just like man, you guys do you we're insulated from we're getting away from 01:03:34.260 --> 01:03:38.740 We're getting our mind, right? You know, we're in the right place. We found our tribe 01:03:38.740 --> 01:03:43.980 We're focusing on our family a new family and and the community and so on 01:03:43.980 --> 01:03:44.540 um 01:03:44.980 --> 01:03:48.740 Give us a view into the future a little bit, you know, what do you think's going to happen? 01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:58.080 Man, that's a tough question. Um, I think the entire um, this is actually great news for us 01:03:58.080 --> 01:04:03.540 I think all these governments um and central banks, they're all going to be collapsing in the next couple years 01:04:03.540 --> 01:04:04.300 um 01:04:04.300 --> 01:04:11.380 And then what how that plays out and what happens will be a little bumpy at the very least for a lot of people 01:04:12.020 --> 01:04:15.980 That's why i'm quite a big proponent of getting out of major cities 01:04:16.640 --> 01:04:20.820 Getting you know, like where you are there where I am here on my ranch 01:04:21.380 --> 01:04:27.400 Because I think as a lot of these things collapse, which is awesome and going to be so incredible 01:04:28.200 --> 01:04:33.160 That it's going to be very messy because so many people are so inured and so tied to the system 01:04:34.180 --> 01:04:37.600 That's uh, you know when the grocery store is closed when the banks collapse 01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:42.840 You know, I wouldn't want to be in like new york city when that happened, right? 01:04:43.380 --> 01:04:45.360 Um, and there's all kinds of other things 01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:47.060 But I think the more that people just 01:04:47.060 --> 01:04:52.180 Do what you're saying and and just detach from the system and go off wherever they go 01:04:52.180 --> 01:04:55.580 And create their new life and their new economy and their new 01:04:55.580 --> 01:05:00.240 Whatever they're going to do grow their own food. I think the more that people do that the better 01:05:00.240 --> 01:05:01.880 um, and I think 01:05:02.500 --> 01:05:07.460 If they're smart, uh, if they're paying attention, uh, if they're doing the work 01:05:07.600 --> 01:05:09.480 They will probably have a 01:05:10.080 --> 01:05:15.300 Be able to survive the next couple of years and then after that I think we could go on to an incredible new world 01:05:15.300 --> 01:05:18.120 That would be yeah, just incredible 01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:23.360 But you're going to have to survive the collapse of the old world. Uh, you're going to have to be smart to do that 01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:27.760 You know one thing before you go. I'm a narcopoco 01:05:29.120 --> 01:05:36.560 Always videos it you get access to it. You able to see you know, uh, the videos that you missed and so on 01:05:36.560 --> 01:05:41.020 Um, you know, I'm sure I got access as a speaker thing whatever 01:05:41.020 --> 01:05:48.020 But there was a bunch of things that I missed that I wanted to see because of scheduling there was so much going on 01:05:48.540 --> 01:05:54.820 How do I get to the videos man? You know, it's you know, pimp it out for the people we can go watch videos. What's that? 01:05:56.080 --> 01:05:58.080 Yeah, you can get them at narcopoco.com 01:05:58.660 --> 01:06:02.600 I don't know exactly where it is on the website, but it should be there probably near the top 01:06:02.600 --> 01:06:06.320 get virtual ticket or replays and uh 01:06:06.560 --> 01:06:10.240 Yeah, go to tickets and then if you go there, they shouldn't if you click on tickets 01:06:10.240 --> 01:06:15.480 I think you have to actually click on it. I think it should open down below. Yeah, here we go 01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:22.500 Uh, oh we got pre-sales for 2027 already. I didn't know about that. Um, scroll down 01:06:23.180 --> 01:06:25.180 I'm there. I think it passed it already 01:06:26.040 --> 01:06:29.920 Scroll up scroll up. There it is scroll down. No, scroll down 01:06:30.500 --> 01:06:30.900 Yeah 01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:34.060 An arc about to 2026 virtual access there you go 01:06:34.060 --> 01:06:37.820 And if you want you can get the dollar vigilante and crypto vigilante bundle as well 01:06:38.420 --> 01:06:42.420 And yeah, there was so many incredible talks and we actually had two stages as you know 01:06:42.420 --> 01:06:48.360 And we recorded all of it. So there's a massive amount of incredible information and incredible speakers 01:06:49.140 --> 01:06:53.240 Um, so yeah, you can get access to all of it for just 150 bucks pretty good 01:06:53.240 --> 01:06:56.220 It's like a I don't know got to be a hundred hours of of stuff 01:06:56.220 --> 01:06:59.480 Which you can watch at your own pace, of course, unlike us at the event 01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:02.980 We had to watch it like every single day every hour of every day 01:07:02.980 --> 01:07:08.420 You can kind of take your time, but yeah, it's there's so much good information in there. I highly recommend it 01:07:09.020 --> 01:07:11.660 Yeah, this is um, we're at a 01:07:12.640 --> 01:07:16.400 It's a mile marker. We're at a mile marker in history 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:22.460 You know, this is you know, what's going on now is you know, there's a before and there's an after 01:07:22.460 --> 01:07:23.800 There's a before 01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:31.580 Invasion of Iran, Venezuela, Ecuador, whatever Trump kind of whatever and an orca poco 01:07:31.580 --> 01:07:34.860 You know home and we're just getting to the truth kind of deal 01:07:35.560 --> 01:07:38.140 And there's an after and the after 01:07:38.660 --> 01:07:46.300 I I'm I'm very very optimistic see the whole concept of freedoms phoenix was from the ashes of lady liberties torch 01:07:46.300 --> 01:07:50.960 Freedoms rebirth freedoms phoenix. That was the point, you know for my grandkids 01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:56.140 I'm like I we're gonna have to go through the ashes and when we saw in late 19 01:07:56.140 --> 01:08:01.960 It was the movie joker came out with a walking phoenix and I'm watching I'm like what the crap was that 01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:06.760 You know, it's it's like predictive programming kind of do it and then that summer 01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:09.480 Here we go portland and island. Yep. Here we go 01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:15.620 Here come the ashes and people gonna have to start making decisions for themselves and their future and their families and 01:08:15.620 --> 01:08:20.220 And you have you know a young you have a family. You got a young son 01:08:20.220 --> 01:08:26.860 Was on your shoulders out there and he was you know digging that but you know, you got he had to go put on a spider man 01:08:26.860 --> 01:08:27.640 Outfit man 01:08:28.200 --> 01:08:33.800 Come back and show everybody. So you got a young son. You you're looking into the future 01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:36.780 Are you feeling pretty optimistic? You okay? 01:08:38.360 --> 01:08:40.700 Yeah, like in general. Yes, um 01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:47.320 I think it's going to be a very different world that he's going to grow up in the even if you look at the AI stuff 01:08:47.320 --> 01:08:53.100 Which but I think the AI stuff is all actually going to start collapsing in a couple years for a number of different reasons 01:08:53.660 --> 01:09:01.000 Um, but yeah, no, I'm gonna you know, he's already like had so much better childhood than me or my my wife 01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:02.120 ever could have imagined 01:09:02.700 --> 01:09:09.240 We're you know, just making sure his life is full of love and connection and never has to you know 01:09:09.240 --> 01:09:17.140 Worry about anything and uh, it's just all beauty and love and and a huge family that he's always playing with and 01:09:17.620 --> 01:09:20.520 Um, I just expect we'll just continue on like that 01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:24.240 He'll never see the inside of a government indoctrination camp, of course 01:09:24.240 --> 01:09:26.700 And just be unschooled and you know 01:09:27.260 --> 01:09:29.880 Even if it ends up he just ends up running this ranch 01:09:30.400 --> 01:09:34.480 And with all the animals and with all the greenhouses and growing our own food 01:09:34.480 --> 01:09:38.080 And if he wants to make a business out of that at some point or whatever 01:09:38.080 --> 01:09:40.320 I don't know, but you know, I'm not too worried 01:09:40.820 --> 01:09:46.900 Even if it turns worst-case scenario and we go into this full terminator or pellet tier thing with drones coming around 01:09:46.900 --> 01:09:49.480 Trying to kill us all all of us freedom fighters and stuff 01:09:49.480 --> 01:09:50.120 like 01:09:50.120 --> 01:09:56.560 Like he's he's a he's a strong kid. We have a gym in our house. He's going to be in the gym all the time 01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:01.260 You know, if he gets up to like, I don't know 16 years old and he's like in perfect physical shape 01:10:01.260 --> 01:10:05.740 And we have to go be out in the mountains like basically fighting off the government drones with like 01:10:05.740 --> 01:10:09.760 Cyber attacks that we're doing on them and stuff like that'd be pretty cool, too 01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:14.980 So even if it goes dystopian, I think we're really going to enjoy just you know surviving it 01:10:14.980 --> 01:10:18.320 And if it goes totally beautiful all the better 01:10:20.040 --> 01:10:26.540 Thank you for spending time with me, jeff. You know, I think it's um, this is a good message for people to see that 01:10:27.180 --> 01:10:28.720 Resistance is not futile 01:10:29.240 --> 01:10:34.520 There is a tribe out there that you can find if you're freedom oriented individual and it comes down to 01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:39.840 You know finding peace of mind, you know, just you know understanding the truth of things 01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:48.280 And an arcapoco is one of those things that if you're of this mind and you experience it you get a feeling 01:10:48.940 --> 01:10:49.960 Of relief 01:10:50.880 --> 01:10:53.020 You're not alone. You're not crazy 01:10:53.480 --> 01:10:55.700 You understand other people do 01:10:56.160 --> 01:11:03.180 And there is a future and a lot of it is just being comfortable in your own skin with your own family and your own community 01:11:03.180 --> 01:11:05.820 And an arcapoco is a very good 01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:10.520 widespread of all kinds of interests that you'll find something 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:14.500 To be there for and then of course part of our art was very nice 01:11:14.500 --> 01:11:19.020 You know, you can go around and it was safe even in the middle of all the crap. It was safe 01:11:19.020 --> 01:11:23.380 I mean, you know, this is it was such a sigh up and they do this every year 01:11:23.380 --> 01:11:28.960 Cia says don't go there. You'll all die or you know, we have a travel warning against whatever 01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:32.020 Or jeffson, you know agent of the whatever 01:11:33.480 --> 01:11:37.600 Reptile bullshit. I mean, you know, it's just constant, you know, oh 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:43.260 And ike, you know, uh speaking he did a zoom thing, you know, that was very popular 01:11:43.260 --> 01:11:45.680 You know like all of a sudden he's not crazy anymore 01:11:46.460 --> 01:11:49.360 You know, so a lot of this stuff has just been 01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:57.840 It was so refreshing. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for you know, inviting me down because I just I I really met a lot of great people 01:11:57.840 --> 01:11:58.660 Oh 01:11:59.420 --> 01:12:06.500 The founder of bit shoot is going to feature our project at the top and do I mean, this is it's a really good networking 01:12:06.500 --> 01:12:12.080 Opportunity as well and you get your mind and body right. It was really good experience 01:12:12.080 --> 01:12:19.100 And we look forward to promoting 27 and uh, I'm very interested in where it's going to be and how you know 01:12:19.100 --> 01:12:21.300 We'll we'll participate. We'll make something happen 01:12:21.300 --> 01:12:27.460 And you know, there's a lot of other stuff we can talk about but that kind of the gist of it before you go 01:12:27.460 --> 01:12:29.460 I mean the the the 01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:33.800 Visuals that they had for perk to buy art and the violence and everything 01:12:35.160 --> 01:12:38.620 On a scale one to ten. What kind of bullshit were we looking at? 01:12:40.900 --> 01:12:48.560 Uh, I think looking back at it, uh 10 out of 10, uh, it was it was almost nothing in actual fact 01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:49.380 It was really 01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:55.240 About nine in the morning on sunday or eight in the morning all of a sudden and we're still not sure how this happened 01:12:56.140 --> 01:13:03.540 Like there was a bus on fire on almost every street in port of aerta and a couple a bunch of oxo stores were all on fire 01:13:03.540 --> 01:13:08.240 Uh, there was really not much else other than that. There was a couple gunshots fired 01:13:08.240 --> 01:13:10.780 We do know of one one person was hit in the arm 01:13:11.300 --> 01:13:17.620 But really there was hardly anything. Um, it was mostly a show and then after that they just left and there was no police 01:13:17.620 --> 01:13:21.820 The entire day actually for two full days afterwards. There was no police. There was no fire people 01:13:21.820 --> 01:13:23.820 They just let everything up fire and left 01:13:24.340 --> 01:13:29.660 And so as long as you didn't get lit on fire somehow or if you were in a building that was on fire 01:13:29.660 --> 01:13:35.920 You could get out. There really was almost nothing. Um, that happened. It was it was truly a staged 01:13:36.440 --> 01:13:43.820 Uh, psychological operation for a number of agendas. Um, it was it was really incredible to witness like live inside of it 01:13:43.820 --> 01:13:46.760 And that like I said, like maybe they did it that weekend 01:13:47.220 --> 01:13:52.460 Partly because we were there because they do seem to target our our event. It just seems that's the case 01:13:53.020 --> 01:13:57.640 Uh, and if that was the case, they kind of backfired on them because max egan was out with in like a few minutes 01:13:58.220 --> 01:14:00.760 Fitting with his camera saying what a joke this is 01:14:01.340 --> 01:14:07.540 Like there's nothing to worry about and all that kind of stuff. Uh, patrick henningston was out there dan dicks was out there 01:14:08.060 --> 01:14:13.960 Uh, we're I was doing a video. I was like, yeah, there's a bunch of fires. I don't know what's going on 01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:15.380 But I don't know. I watch your video 01:14:15.820 --> 01:14:16.980 behind your house there 01:14:16.980 --> 01:14:21.220 I I'm I'm really glad that 01:14:22.460 --> 01:14:28.520 It happened to a crowd that you know understood they they could see they weren't all freaked out 01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:31.880 I mean, you know early on dan dicks was kind of you know 01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:35.560 Things are happening here, man 01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:43.320 But um, it quickly evolved into yeah, it's just you know, they them those doing their thing and we'll find out later 01:14:43.320 --> 01:14:48.500 You know, it's always gotta wait three weeks, you know find out what the real story is, but um 01:14:48.500 --> 01:14:53.920 I'm glad that you're there. I'm looking forward to promoting what you're doing next year 01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:59.080 And you got a great team, you know, take care of business and there's other festivals and so on that 01:14:59.080 --> 01:15:05.300 Going and you guys are going to Lieberland Lieber to poco, you know, maybe there might be something new Hampshire 01:15:05.300 --> 01:15:09.600 Maybe there might be there might be there might be let me know how we can help 01:15:10.040 --> 01:15:12.620 I'm supportive, man. I'm glad you got the right mindset 01:15:12.620 --> 01:15:16.620 You have great events and you have a lot of life-changing 01:15:17.260 --> 01:15:19.340 presentations and confirmation of 01:15:19.900 --> 01:15:27.120 Truth that people are feeling and they get to experience it. It's awesome. Anarca poco anarca poco 20 27 01:15:27.120 --> 01:15:33.620 Be a comment keeps getting better. Jeff Burwick. Thank you very much. Jeff. It's been pleasure, man 01:15:34.300 --> 01:15:37.020 Always a pleasure any. Thank you. All right. Peace, brother