analysis and commentary on the current state of humanity and how tyranny was encroaching
and, you know, we were basically, you know, living under a control-slash-enslavement system.
What I constantly heard from people in the alternative media community were so-called
solutions that were all based in externalizing power and external factors to the self. It
was people who did not really understand in my estimation, from my personal experience,
who and what they were really up against, nor did they have a complete understanding or
even an accurate understanding of what would be necessary to change in order to change the
outcome. And that's why I wanted to put together a comprehensive presentation slash worldview
understanding of what was really taking place and what would truly be needed to change
to enact the solution. One of the things I always hear from detractors is that I'm
not speaking any solutions. And I tell people that all of my work has been the solution from day
one. You just don't understand what I'm saying. And that's a sad thing to have to say to other
people is that you're literally not quite intelligent enough to actually hear what's
being said to you. But that's literally the case when it comes to a lot of the freedom
community, sadly. I don't want it to be that way. It just is that way. They believe the most
ridiculous and erroneous things about what's going to solve this problem. They think it's
going to be a financial solution. They think it's going to be primarily a political solution. If
you don't understand the politics is divisive and not the answer and not going to solve
anything, you don't under you really don't understand life at this point as far as I'm
concerned. And, you know, or maybe they think it's going to be a technological solution
or a solution regarding food or religion or whatever they could possibly imagine or envision
is the most wildly off basis, so called solutions, pseudo solutions, non solutions that you could
ever possibly imagine. And that's what I was seeing back then. And they've only gotten
more erroneous and more ridiculous as time progressed. The the the political analysis
community, which is what really the freedom community largely amounts to, I mean, I wouldn't
use the term entirely to paint with a broad brush or make a blanket statement. But it is
largely the freedom, so called freedom community, which I don't believe is a freedom
community. I believe it is a wildly off base, wishers for freedom. That's basically what we
have. We have people who want who say they want freedom and don't want to listen to what the
real solutions are or what the real changes that have to take place internally within the
individual for freedom to ever possibly manifest. They don't want to hear that. They
This is why I got involved is to explain to people that all of the political analysis is
exactly akin to looking at the patterns on furniture on a sinking ship and go, wow, that
Ottoman there by by the couch or by the chair has such interesting fabric on it. I'm going
while there's a gigantic hole in the ship and it's sinking. This is literally, literally what we
are undergoing and experiencing. And since that time, back into 2007, when I really began
formulating, really, it was honestly in 2005, when I really started waking up and fully
waking up and really understanding what I had experienced, what was really going on, you
know, around that time, maybe even a little bit earlier than that. I say my initial awakening
was 9 11 and the aftermath of it really understood that it was an inside job and a complete false
flag by around early 2002, a few months after the event. And, you know, my subsequent, you
know, further awakening probably progressed until around 2005, where I would say I knew
what the solutions really were as far as what type of spiritual internal work and waking up to true
morality had to happen. I didn't start my public work. I had started formulating the
what on earth is happening presentation in early 2006. And I started delivering that in late 2007,
working on it for, you know, basically that entire year. So 2007 began my public work. And that
was the gap that I was trying to fill to answer your question is present the real solutions
instead of pseudo solutions that the freedom community is hallucinating the so called freedom
community is imagining and under the illusion that they're going to make any headway into
real freedom by implementing. The real solution is the understanding of true objective
morality under natural law and aligning one's behavior to it. And doing that through a process
of deep internal spiritual work with the self, which is what shadow work is ultimately all about.
How has your work changed since you've started stylistically, emotionally?
How has your approach shifted from that beginning time to more recent times?
Great question. I initially started on Internet radio stations doing an audio only show and podcast
that morphed into a video show with higher production values and, you know, a lot more
intricacy of visuals, which I think is a lot more effective because you can show slides as
you present ideas. But what I think is the most interesting part of that question is how
the content of my work changed and how my emotional state changed as time progressed.
My content shifted from in my early work. I was presenting about the control system,
all of the methodologies of control and mind control that are employed against us by
the social engineers that run our planet. I was really deeply talking about the
and occult traditions and systems and the symbology thereof and practices.
And a lot of people were very into this early work. They supported me tremendously and were
like I was just the love of people's hearts back then, let me tell you, because everybody
wants to externalize everything and point fingers outward and say, that's the problem. They're
the problem. And I'm not saying that my work was bad or that it did harm, but it was
too externalized for people who really shouldn't have received a notion of
it's not you that has to change, it's they're the problem. I was projecting that way too much
in my early work as far as I'm concerned. I probably would have maybe gone back and did
it slightly differently. But nonetheless, I think that's important information to very
much understand. It really puts things in perspective and paints a framework of who's
really doing the enslavement to humanity, why they're doing it, what their mental
framework and their worldview is, the systems that they use, the techniques they use,
the symbolism they use, it's all very important to understand. I would not teach that. I think
that needs to be taught and understood. The problem is when there's so much complexity
involved in that and there's so much detail involved in that, you have to spend a lot of
time to unpack that. And I spent the better portion of a year and a half to close to two
years simply talking about that aspect of this control system. And when you do that,
it sort of gets people into a loop of thinking. It gets them into thinking, this is all factors
outside of us. This is nothing I need to do anything about. This is just, oh, we just,
you know, he's going to make people aware of this and then things are suddenly going to change.
And that was never my intention. I always understood the spiritual aspect of things.
I was simply trying to present the information in a stepwise progression
to get people from point A to point B. And I think I did a great job of that, quite frankly.
I think I have a very logically structured presentation and podcast series with visuals,
with slides, that really unfolds someone's worldview over time. And that was my intention.
The problem is, is that the community of, let's say, people who want to analyze the control system
and people who say that they want freedom are very much people who believe that these are
somewhat somehow external factors, that they don't have to get personally involved,
that they don't have to change their own thinking. They believe they're fine the
way they are. They believe the problem is not created or generated by their worldview,
how they are thinking, what they believe, and what they erroneously believe the solutions are.
So as I encountered, as my work shifted away from explaining external factors,
because I felt I had done more than enough of that, I turned toward internal spiritual work
that is very, very, very introspective and very, very demanding and difficult of the individual
to embark upon. And when my work shifted from those external factors of explaining the control
system and its methodologies to completely turning inward and looking at how the individual
sees the world, functions in the world, their belief systems, what they are thinking,
feeling, and doing, and what they believe the actual solutions to the world crisis of
control and enslavement and the destruction of freedom and the division of humanity
into more and more violence and degeneration. When I tried to explain that the internal
factors are far more important to understand and implement than in the external factors,
and I realized that there was unbelievably deep resistance to that very notion. Forget about
doing any of those things. Even hearing that that's the issue at hand, and that's what needs to
be worked upon. The unimaginable amount of resistance that came out of the woodwork
was so colossal and overwhelming that I really emotionally felt completely attacked and betrayed
quite frankly. I realized how far away people's minds were from the real answer and how committed
they were to staying exactly in the same mindset that they had always been in life,
other than realize, hey, there's people out there who want to control and enslave me
and my loved ones. That's about it. And understanding that, ladies and gentlemen,
does not take a damned rocket science or genius, a rocket scientist or genius. Any
heart person as dim as a very dull-edged butter knife, as dim-witted as that,
can figure that out by this point in time. If you can't figure that out by this point in time,
there's something very seriously wrong with your cognitive abilities.
But good for people who figure that out. Wonderful. You're not special. You're not
unique. You haven't done anything earth-shattering. You haven't done anything absolutely astounding.
That's the very beginning of the change that needs to take place. The problem is,
people stay right there. They don't budge in their worldview and in their understanding,
and they just say they want to attribute it to external factors or groups and say,
it's all the Freemasons. It's all the Jews. It's all the Jesuits. It's all the Rosicrucians,
whatever. And they sound like infantile children who really don't have the ability to reason.
Because if you think there's anything that unidimensional in life in general,
you're delusional. It's complete illusory thinking. It's complete degenerative thinking.
It's complete childish thinking is what it is. And when I start explaining that to people and
trying to get them to understand that the internal spiritual state has to change
for external factors in the world to change, there's so much resistance to that because
they're trapped in all kinds of illusions and religious thought. And when I say religious
thought, it has to be quantified and defined. It has to be understood from the perspective I'm
using the term religious thought or religion. I do not only mean the traditional cultural
religions. And I have to say this in every interview for new people who may not be
familiar with what I'm talking about in my work. I do not mean just Christianity,
Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, etc. Religious thought means any erroneous form of thinking. And
erroneous means false. It means it's not aligned with truth. It's not aligned with what actually
exists in nature. It's a false, structural idea of the mind. That's what I mean by
erroneous thought. It's an erroneous belief system that takes us further and further away
from truth, further and further away from the natural law understanding, further and further away
from understanding what real moral principles are instead of religious nonsensical relative
morality that then if it is ever even seen as how ridiculous it is by people who once
subscribe to it or people who don't subscribe to religion, they then want to throw the idea of
morality out which is equivalent to throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You don't throw out
the understanding of true morality just because you understand that religious systems and systems
of completely erroneous belief include false teachings of morality and a false understanding
of what morality actually is. So I am trying to bring people to the understanding there is true
objective morality. Aligning with it is the path to freedom and is the solution to the system of
slavery in place in our world. How anybody could not hear that I'm presenting solutions and
say I'm not solution oriented. They are low IQ. That's the only way that I could put it.
They're degenerate thinkers. They're not higher minded people. They're simply degenerate low IQ
individuals. And as I've said, I've explained from day one what the actual solution is. The actual
solution is alignment of our behavior. It's a restructuring of our worldview. It's doing
internal spiritual shadow work upon the self to reevaluate one's worldview and come to the
understanding of true objective moral principles which you then align your behavior to in life.
When the aggregate of humanity does that freedom results. Freedom is not for an immoral people.
Freedom is only for a truly moral people that have their actions, their worldview,
their emotions and their actions aligned with true objective morality under natural law.
And let me just conclude briefly. That is the gap that I attempted to fill because hardly anyone
on this planet is speaking about those things. They're all analyzing political and financial
situations and that is not the solution. Those are pseudo solutions and what I'm talking about
is the real solution to human freedom. Whether anybody believes it or understands it or not,
it's still objectively true. And it's testable. It's a science. It's not a belief. It's not a
religion. It's a science of morality. It's a science of behavior is exactly what it is.
And people may down the line eventually understand it. They absolutely don't right now.
They're unbelievably resistant to even considering it. They scoff at these notions.
They think I've gone off the deep end or something for being as angry as I've gotten
over people not understanding it over 18 goddamn years. And it doesn't matter what those people
think ultimately. It's still true nonetheless and humanity will either understand it and
prosper and eventually become free or they'll extinct themselves. That's how things are going
to go because free will is operating in the universe. So you could ignore it at your
own peril or you could try to understand it and make the world a better place. Those are
people's options. And it's like you said, the two reasons that you
provided there that people don't want to hear those solutions, but then they also
claim that you're not providing them. So they kind of go hand in hand, right? That
that willful ignorance of what you're saying as the solutions, they can try to pinpoint and say,
okay, I don't agree with that necessary that point, but they're not even hearing the
point. And it kind of relates to the fact that they don't want to, right?
They don't want the responsibility that comes with true knowledge of how things work.
That's all it really boils down to. Knowledge and especially deep occult knowledge about what
is really generating conditions within humanity, which is what the occultists
completely understand and they're trying to hide from humanity's understanding so that
they can continue to control and enslave them. That kind of deep knowledge carries deep
personal responsibility with it. That's why people don't want to understand it.
They want to remain ignoramuses. They want to remain completely irresponsible people.
They believe they can ever truly shirk personal responsibility for what's going on. But guess
why? You can't because the universe is ultimately going to hold you to account
for your ignorance or for your lack of true right action in this world.
And why is natural law central to your message? You ended on that a second ago
that that's really why it's become central to your message. So let's just go right into that
and the work that you've done around that topic. So natural law is the universal
non-man-made eternal objective and immutable conditions that ultimately govern human behavioral
choice. It governs the free will consequences of beings that have the capacity for
holistic intelligence, meaning it does not apply to lower animals. It applies to human beings and
higher life forms who have the capacity for truly understanding the difference between right behavior
and wrong behavior objectively. And that doesn't mean that they do understand it. It means they
have the capacity to understand it. It means they have the brain power. They have the nervous
system and the type of brain that is capable of reason, that is capable of judgment and reason.
And truly understanding differences between behaviors and why certain behaviors are moral
and preferable and other behaviors are immoral and not preferable to an outcome. And there is a law
within natural law consequence that I refer to as the law of freedom. It's a law of
consequentialism. It means that if we behave in certain ways in the collective, in the aggregate,
then we're going to receive an outcome in the aggregate. And if we behave in different ways
in the aggregate, we're going to receive a different outcome. It's a very simple logical
understanding of how natural processes work and the consequences of laws work, no different
than the understanding of the consequences of any physical law. If you hold a piece of paper
in a fire, it is going to burn up. That's just a physical law. If you put a fork with an unprotected
hand into an electrical outlet, you're going to be shocked by electricity and an act of electrical
outlet. That's a natural law. It is a physical law, but it is a natural law. It is a law within the
boundaries of the laws of nature. Behavioral law works the exact same way within nature.
It's a law that is operating in the universe that requires an understanding of something
in order to align your behavior to it. This is why, if we have an important document,
we don't put it over a flame. This is why, if we don't want to be electrocuted, we don't stick
a fork in an electrical outlet because we have an accurate understanding, at least to the extent
that we need to, of how those physical laws work. Well, if you don't want enslavement and
if you don't want complete destruction upon your entire civilization, you learn what natural law
regarding behavior is. Just like if you don't want to get electrocuted, you learn how electricity
works not to stick a fork in an outlet. It's a very simple, practical, natural understanding
of laws that are operating all around us in human life, in daily life. The main law within it
is as freedom, I'm sorry, as morality increases, freedom increases and we're talking about
in the aggregate. We mean collectively over the body of humanity. This is how karma works
over an entire species. I would say yes, there is such a thing as individuated karma,
as individuated consequentialism or cause and effect of your behavior, but it is not as
easily seen in life in certain instances as if you study the progression of how karma works
over time over a species and that's what natural law reveals. That's how natural law
reveals itself unto us and is understandable. It is knowable. We can even experiment with it
if we wanted to. It is objective. It is knowable. It has boundary conditions that are
testable and understandable, just like any other law of nature, just like any other science.
It is a science of behavior. As morality increases, freedom increases over the aggregate of a civilization.
As morality declines, freedom declines and we go deeper into bondage and enslavement.
So all you have to do to understand the effect which people will make the recognition
and acknowledgement that it is tyranny, control, and slavery and the more intelligent people will
understand it's ultimately eugenics and moving toward depopulation and ultimately extinction.
If you understand those are the results, then all you have to do is go back and look at
what the cause is. The cause is immoral behavior, immoral thought, immoral behavior,
belief in nonsensical wrong ideas that ultimately lead to immoral behavior.
And that's the cause. And only removing the cause, only changing the causal factor
will ever lead to a change in result. This is what the unintelligent do not recognize.
They don't understand the link of causation. They don't get that if you think and behave a certain
way and that's how the main aggregate of the body of humanity thinks and behaves, you're inexorably
and invariably moving toward the outcome of enslavement. And if you change that worldview
and you change that thinking from an internal spiritual perspective, the outcome is going
to change as the aggregate body of humanity changes in those capacities over time.
It is not that difficult to figure out, ladies and gentlemen. It just takes observation and it
takes the understanding of our current orientation and where we are really at as far as the human
condition is concerned. And if you understand that, then you truly should understand the
factors that are involved and you should then come to a logical understanding of the
true solution, which is the understanding of objective morality, not religious morality,
but true objective morality and aligning your behavior to those things by not doing the wrong
doings under objective natural law-based morality. Just don't do the wrong doings and
the situation will actually organically revolve itself. The problem is we don't
understand what rights are because we don't understand what the wrong doings are and we
think certain people have the right to do those wrong doings, namely government. We believe in
this religion, this completely erroneous notion called authority and we think people are allowed
to do the natural law wrong doings just because they have some name attached to themselves or
some badge or some costume called a uniform or some position in society. No they don't,
no one is exempt from the laws of morality, they're the same for everyone, everyone has the same
rights and the wrong doings are the same for everyone as well. If we don't engage in the
wrong doings and we simply act only upon our rights of what we are actually endowed to do
because those actions do not initiate harm to other sentient beings, the situation actually
organically resolves itself. That is actually the solution, it has been presented in an innumerable
ridiculous amount of times. People can't hear it as such because they're so under mind control,
they're so under deception, they're so under erroneous thinking. They're just, their brains
are burnt is what it really comes down to. The chemicals in the food, air and water have
burnt their brains, they can't think straight, they can't reason, they don't have any logical
faculties within the mind anymore. They've been really reduced to the thinking of
pretty much the animal kingdom. Sadly, that's a sad, tragic thing to have to say and acknowledge,
but that's how degraded and debased human beings have become in our society in the modern
age, in the modern day. When, if we want to uplift ourselves out of that condition,
it is absolutely possible with a lot of hard work. It doesn't happen magically,
it doesn't happen automatically, good doesn't automatically defeat evil,
improvement doesn't automatically occur just because you wish it to. It takes unbelievably
hard, disciplined work upon the self to come out of nonsensical thinking. And I can tell you,
I know that that's the case, that's not just something I'm saying to make people feel good
because I was one of these idiots. I was one of the delusional, completely burnt brain idiots in my
youth. That's what led me into the darker cult. That's, you know, ironically, what let me see
a lot of the control system because I was so stubborn and imbecilic back then and my brain
was completely broken and not working correctly to such an extent that I actually went in with
the social engineers and tried to help them destroy humanity for years of my life. That's how
completely erroneously burnt brain my thinking, erroneous and burnt brain my thinking was.
You know, I don't exempt myself from those words and the conditions that I'm trying to explain.
I worked 24 seven practically for over a decade to fix my thinking.
Nonstop and you know what, that work still is ongoing because I've still experienced trauma
and traumatizing situations in my life that I have to do shadow work to work upon and recover
from. That's ongoing to this minute, to this exact second, you know, and that's why I don't
exempt myself from any of this. I'll talk about all my experiences and my erroneous belief systems
and religions and I shed them. I shed them over immense disciplined work over more than a decade of
my life and continue to do that kind of shadow work. And this is what people resist because
do you know what it takes? It takes being honest with yourself. It takes absolutely telling yourself
things that you do not want to hear about the person who you currently are. That's why
people say you want to tell me the problem lies with me and in my internal state and my mindset
and my worldview, I'm turning 180 degrees. No, you're the problem. I'm out. And you're the problem
for even saying that it's me or it's people like me or it's just humanity in general and
they're screwed up thinking. And this is why people hate my later work. They'll say, oh,
go listen to passio's early work. Don't bother with his later stuff. You know what that means?
I tell people, you know exactly what that means. You don't understand one thing I said from day one.
Zero. No understanding whatsoever. You stayed completely stagnant. You didn't learn. You
didn't grow at all. My later work is my most critically important work because it's not
only going to show you what the real solution is instead of just endlessly looking into
satanism or the occult or symbolism or secret societies or control methodologies,
it's going to make you turn inward and look at how are you contributing to the problem?
How is your distorted thinking contributing to the problems of humanity? How are you staying
in your current mindset and worldview actually lending to the continuation of the human
condition of slavery? And guess what? It's practically everything. Without changing
your worldview, without changing your understanding of the dynamics involved
and understanding natural law and aligning your behavior to it, you are on a sinking ship
and you're looking at the other end of the ship where all the water is at and you're like,
glad the hole is not in my end. That's how dumb people like that are. They're dumbest stumps.
And I told them so, right? I'm not a shy person. I'm not a person who's worried about
any kind of repercussions, believe me. I made my peace with life and death. The minute I told
the satanist that I was working with and trying to help enslave humanity at one point, not really
enslave, but doing the work to basically put humanity under a delusional spell. Once I
realized it was ultimately about enslavement is when I had my crisis of conscience and
change my mind to work with them. But when I was working with them, I fully understood
where they were trying to take humanity. And it's like, since then, I have been trying to
blow the whistle on that and explain it to people. And what they told me about people's
mindset, sadly, has been true. And they said they're under such a delusional trance,
they're under such thrall is the word that they use for it, which literally means a state of being
placed under someone else's control like a puppet. They said they're under such thrall,
nobody can wake them out of it, even us. These occultists said even if we tried to change
their mindset, we wouldn't be able to do it. I don't necessarily believe that that's possible.
I think that's their understanding of it. I think if a huge amount of people really worked
on people and really put the truth out to humanity, in a continuous way, we could take
people out of this trance and out of their current worldview. The problem is they're
comfortable there, they want to stay there. And they believe that external factors, political
analysis, financial analysis is somehow the answer or the solution. And it's not.
What I just laid out and told people is the answer and the solution. The problem is they're
too hard headed to realize it. And it's very unpopular because it places the burden upon the
individual. It's not looking outward and saying, oh, it's this group, that group, these people,
that people. It's about turning inward and saying, what's my role in all of this? What's
all other people, the average person's role in all this? And how do we have to change our
minds and our behaviors? And people don't want to do that because that's a shake up to their
life. That's a shake up to their lifestyle in almost all cases. And they don't want that.
They want to remain comfortable in their little bubble of existence. And that's why when I later
in my work realized that this was the resistance that I was up against regarding the people who
even state, yes, I want true freedom. It's all lip service. When I started realizing that,
it's just lip service. And they just want a new episode. You want a new television show,
the people out there in the freedom movement. You don't want real freedom. You want to be
entertained. You think this is entertainment. You think this is social hour. You think this is
some comedy show. You think this is some new television episode that you want to see how it
unfolds. It's none of those things. It's life and death. And if yesterday didn't tell you
and teach you that this is a matter of life and death, then often never fucking will.
And I'm of course referring to Charlie Kirk's assassination, which is horrendous and reprehensible.
And this is the path that we're heading down. This is what I've been trying to avert by teaching
people that they have to work upon themselves and heal their worldview. I've been trying to
avert this kind of violence and escalation and what's going to eventually lead to warfare,
to asymmetric urban warfare at some point. I've been trying to avert that outcome of chaos and
death since day one, because I understood these factors. And that's why I've gotten so
harder and harder and harder on people. The Velvet Club of Mark Pascio came off a long time ago
and I started hitting bare knuckled, viciously. And I'm of course mean philosophically,
not actually physically. But people hate that. They want you to blame it on external factors and
say it has nothing to do with you because they don't want the responsibility that goes hand in hand
with truly changing and coming into true knowledge of what the real solution is.
And that's why I've taken it so hard on people, especially lately. Because at this point,
ladies and gentlemen, there should be so much more progress than what there is. There should be
so much more understanding of the causal factors and what the real solution is. My message should
be everywhere by this point, literally dripping from everywhere. And you know where it is?
It's nowhere. It's practically nowhere. It's in such a tiny, hidden corners of
cyberspace. It is practically not in anyone's mind. It is practically not in anyone's mouth.
And that's literally the problem is that the true solution hasn't been identified and amplified.
And it has been by a tiny few people in what you might call the natural law community,
the true freedom community, the freedom community that understands that in order to be free,
humanity must first be moral and good. And that's a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of people.
It's an insignificantly tiny percentage of people. And until that message gets amplified
greatly by people who you want to see what's going on in the world and you're confused
and you don't understand and you're horrified, listen to this message, ladies and gentlemen.
This is the message that has to be paid attention to and listened to. Not because
I'm saying it. Many, many thousands of people throughout the history of this planet have said it
on a numerable amount of times. They've worded it in a million different ways.
Okay? I'm nobody special because I understand it. And neither is anybody else just because
they happen to understand it. The message is what's important, not the individual speaking it.
My message, the message has to get out there to people. It has to be understood.
It has to be amplified and it has to grow. Or we're going to see more incidences of completely
mindless, senseless violence of people thinking that they just go around killing somebody that they
disagree with of escalation of tension leading to war. And I don't want to see that. I never
have. I will be prepared if that eventuality and that sick unfortunate outcome occurs.
I'll be ready. I changed my mindset about that a long time ago because I was like,
I'll just give up on the first day and die. And then I thought about it and I'm like, no,
my message is too important to just give up like that. I'll be ready in the eventuality
of when violence in that capacity comes my way. I'm going to try to survive it because my
message is too important not to. So I don't want to see that outcome. And I've told people
from day one, this is the solution to avoiding that outcome.
And it's like you've said, I mean, the external world is a reflection of really what's going on
inside of us. So if we're seeing escalation of violence or continuation of it, that doesn't
mean, oh, there's all this violence happening out here in the world. It's, okay, that's
violence happening inside of ourselves. We're doing the violence internally to ourselves
by ignoring this information or dozens of other things that we'll do to avoid taking
responsibility. Like you said, it's a form of self violence to the self, right? And then what do we
see erupting in around us? So to me, it's not surprising. Oh, some guy gets assassinated,
you know, and at a university, I'm not surprised at all. You know, I'm not surprised
there's not more of that happening with the amount of ignorance that people are in because,
like you said, it's just a reflection of your ex internal state, what's happening or outside. So
you got, you know, school shootings going on and everything else. But we have mass violence
happening with inside of people, if that's the case, right? If we're having these little blips
happening outside in the world, oh my God, what's going on? Well, yeah, exactly. We've been
ignoring this information. We've been ignoring ourselves. We've been ignoring
that knowledge of the self this whole time. And you know, people think that just any kind of
ignorance is someone's right. Lots of ignorance is a right for an individual, tons of different
kinds of ignorance. You know, I'm drinking a glass of iced tea right now. I do not have to
know how to cultivate and grow and harvest the kind of tea that I'm drinking right now, okay?
That I am absolutely within my rights to remain ignorant of all those processes.
But there's other kinds of ignorance that we do not have a right to engage in and just stay in
that mindset. And that is how does freedom work? What is true morality? What behaviors
do initiate harm to other sentient beings? We don't have the right to remain ignorant of those
things. And again, that's the underpinning and the basis of natural law based morality.
And not learning those things is not a right. You are in that form of ignorance over the most
important things in life, which ultimately generates the conditions that many, many other
billions of people need to live in is not a right. That's not a form of ignorance that is a right.
When you stay in that ignorance, you're a bad person. And this is what I'm saying. Willful
ignorance regarding natural law in the presence of an immense amount of knowledge regarding it
is actually the measure of a bad person. That's what makes someone a bad person,
is they don't they don't have any care or concern for what is right versus wrong.
And let's define that briefly. A right is an action that does not initiate harm to other
sentient beings. Everything that does not initiate harm against another sentient being
is reserved as a human right. Therefore, what are the wrong doing is that do violate natural
law that do violate objective morality and other people's natural rights, especially the right to
remain unharmed? Well, those are seven behaviors, seven behaviors which harm or diminish or defraud
other people. If you are harming, diminishing, defrauding from another person, you are
conducting harm against them in the objective world. This isn't about hurting people's
feelings by telling them something that they don't want to hear right now. You're not just calling
them bad because you're judgy or something, right? That's not what's happening here. We're talking
about objective states of harm and diminishment in real objective reality and nature. Right,
from a holistic worldview. Demonstrable harm. So what we saw yesterday is the first of them,
murder. And that's a political assassination, which is a form of murder. You're murdering
someone, you're taking their life without right. Well, what is taking life without right? It's theft.
You stole a life that doesn't belong to you to take. So that's a form of theft. Assault. You're
stealing bodily well-being like breaking someone's arm or hitting them in the jaw and knocking
teeth out. You're diminishing from the person health-wise and bodily well-being, which the
body is the individual's property. So what are you doing to property? You're destroying or
diminishing from property. That's a form of theft. No different than if you go and break
somebody's windows for no reason or you kick in their door and break the door in the door frame.
You've damaged property. That's a form of theft. You're diminishing from someone's property.
Well, assault is bodily diminishment without right. So that's a form of theft. Rape.
Sexual association without right to do so. Forcing sex on someone. That's taking their
free will sexual association from them. And you're often doing that with direct bodily violence,
which is assault. So that's a form of theft. Taking something that doesn't belong to you.
Physical theft is taking property that doesn't belong to you. That's the definition of theft.
So you're taking items that don't belong to you. And then you have trespass. Trespass is
stealing the comfort or safety of someone's living domain or private space that they've,
you know, basically cordoned off for their own use, for their own living or use. That's a form of
theft is trespass upon someone's property. Again, it all has to do with property and theft.
Coercion. You're taking someone's free will ability to make their own choices in life away
from them. And that's a form of theft. You don't have the right to take someone's free
will away from them. You know, and the only exception to that is if they're doing harm to
their initiating harm to another being, you have a right to stop them. That's called arrest,
where the stopping of the individual from continuing to initiate harm.
So coercion is a form of theft. You're taking free will from someone that you don't have the
right to take. And coercion, you're taking the truth away, where you're diminishing from
someone's active understanding of the truth and their ability to make informed decisions and
exercise judgment in their own lives. That's a form of theft, if you willfully and knowingly
are lying to someone to deceive them. Every wrongdoing. And by the way, these are the
true seven deadly sins, not the seven deadly sins of the ridiculous religion of, you know,
churchianity, which is they say that the real seven deadly sins are pride, gluttony,
sloth, lust, anger, jealousy and greed, all internalized states or emotions. That's it.
They're their mental states or emotions. They're not actions. Remember, a right is an action
that does not initiate harm to other sentient beings. A wrong is an action that does initiate
harm to other sentient beings. I'm not saying these are great emotional or mental
states to dwell in and stay in and not improve yourself to try to exercise discipline not to
continuously engage these states. But if I'm gluttonous and I eat too much on a particular day,
I haven't harmed another being. I haven't initiated harm to another being. I may have created
an upset stomach for myself and maybe I'll purge later if it's severe enough gluttony.
But I'm not doing, I'm not initiating harming harm to another. And that's the definition of harm.
That's the definition of a wrong, a transgression against natural law. The real said, you know,
I literally said to a person at a meetup, they were trying to tell me, oh, to lust is absolutely
a sin. And I said, really, like you've never seen in a pretty exceedingly attractive woman
on the street or, you know, on a movie or something and felt the emotion of lust as a man,
because I was talking to another man, allegedly, a man. And he says, yes, of course I have.
And I think that that's sinful. I'm like, well, did you rape the person? And they know they got
caught in a complete logical imbecilic fallacy of their own distorted thinking. And
they won't answer the question. I'm like, you need to take more than a millisecond to answer
that question, really? Because that means other that you're really, really stupid. And you don't
understand that lust isn't rape. One is an internal emotion, emotional state. One is an
actual violent behavior that you conduct upon another. And or you may really have raped someone,
which makes it even worse of why you're not answering. You know, you either know you're
completely defeated in your argument in a snap of fingers, or maybe you did rape someone. I'm like,
so which is it? And this is where we're at in our society. The people want to be attached
to their bullshit religious thought so deeply that they won't even answer a simple question.
Have you ever raped somebody that you lost it after, you know, or felt lost regarding
when you saw them? This shows you the qualitative difference between the nonsensical seven deadly
sins of churchianity versus the real seven deadly sins under natural law. And I always tell people,
listen, just say them aloud or listen to them spoken aloud. And here are the qualitative
difference in the language. Pride, gluttony, sloth, lust, anger, jealousy, greed versus murder,
assault, rape, theft, trespass, coercion, deception. What do you think carries more
weight and violence and seriousness? What do you think has more gravitas?
The states of mind that, yes, I'm admitting aren't things to aspire to or stay in because
eventually, yes, they could lead to bad behavior. They may not be the best way to be those ways,
yeah. But they're not. What you're saying with the rights are actually actions that you're taking
in the real physical world. That's right. Not that the world's purely physical either, but
so, but compared to juxtapose that to constitutional rights, right? These are also
somewhat more in the positive. So it's still, what you're describing is more in the negative
of the aspect of a right. All natural rights can only truly be defined in the apophatic,
meaning in the negative. Apophatic comes from the, it's a form of inquiry. It's an
epistemological form of inquiry. Epistemology is how we understand reality, how we come to
knowledge, the methodologies by which we come to knowledge. And the apophatic form of inquiry
means that we are engaging in saying what the thing is not. So that's why I said a right
is an action that does not initiate harm against another sentient being. Therefore,
we have to understand what actions do initiate harm against another sentient being. When you know
what rights are not by knowing the wrongdoings, the true seven deadly sins of murder, assault,
rape, theft, trespass, coercion, and deception, and they're all forms of theft,
then you understand what a natural right is. It's a behavior that does not
engage in those behaviors. It does not initiate harm by doing those seven things,
which are ultimately one thing, stealing. Natural law can be boiled down to one law,
don't steal. That's how simple the laws of the creator are. The laws of nature, the laws of
the creator of the universe, the laws of karmic consequence, natural law boils down to two words,
you know, three, if you don't hyphenate, do not steal. If you want to hyphenate it, don't
steal. That's the end of the whole argument. That's the end of the whole issue. That's
what it all boils down to in a nutshell. Ladies and gentlemen who said, who have said over the
years, Mark Paseo doesn't prevent solutions. This is the one and only solution in all of life for
freedom. You want to hear how you get freedom? Don't steal. Don't take anything that does not
belong to you. Know what your true property is and what it is not. Align your behavior to
that simple moral principle and freedom will organically result. That goes for everybody.
There are no exceptions to the rule, no matter what position or costume you happen to be wearing.
That's the solution, boys and girls out there. I know it's a difficult thing. I said two words
together with a period at the end. Don't steal. Pull your brain power to work for it. I'm
amazed you've got too much garbage floating around and banging back and forth between the ears
and you're not truly listening. The mind is speaking. It's chattering. It's doing too much
chatter endlessly. We don't quiet the mind and we can't hear the simplicity and the elegance
and the true morality inherent to the solution. That's because the mind is going nonstop with
its bullshit religions. When we stop the mind from chattering with its nonsensical,
imbecilic religious thought, the solution will present itself to us. But you know what? That
voice never speaks above a whisper. It's not Mark Cascio's voice, ladies and gentlemen. I happen
to be a vehicle for it in the physical domain, but that real voice that is telling us what
that solution is does not raise its voice like I do. It doesn't get real pissed off with you.
It just says it at the most quiet whisper imaginable. Your mind has to be quiet enough to receive it.
It's like a radio on a specific wavelength and the message is there, but it's very faint
and it doesn't raise its voice. It doesn't broadcast at an unbelievably loud volume. It
underlays everything. Our mind as an antenna receiver for information has to be tuned to
that truth frequency and vibration. That only happens when we choir it from its mental chatter
and unbelievable and multifarious forms of noise. That's why shadow work involves the
understanding of how to quiet the mind, how to engage in truly prosperous forms of meditation,
not meditation, just numb yourself out to go into a blissed trance state, which is just as bad
as other religious forms of thought to ignore the harm of the world, to ignore the evil taking
place all around us. That's New Age nonsense meditative practices. This is what people want to
do who are just in the yoga for staying fit or trim or socializing with the other people who
do it or believing in meditation somehow makes you cool or center or whatever so you can then
go and tolerate the crazy conditions of the world. That's not what meditation is therefore,
ladies and gentlemen, that's not what it is to be used for as a practical useful tool.
True transcendental meditation as a practical and useful tool will help you to quiet the
mind from competing thoughts so that you can truly understand what the real solutions are
and what your real role went to be for you to be up taken into the real role in the real
work, what your Dharma is, what you must do in the world, the kind of right action you
must take in life. When you understand that, everything unfolds following that. But to get
to that point, you have to be able to quiet the mind. It's a gigantic part of internal spiritual
shadow work of true shadow work. Okay, so I think earlier you were talking about a unified
worldview or how people construct their worldview. And I've talked a little bit in my work about
that is not something that everybody does. Most people don't even understand that they're
operating from a worldview. But this philosophy that you've put forth and put forward in your work
does have a unifying component. And when you get pushed on that point, typically I've heard you
say something like, who put these laws in motion? Where do these laws come from? Well,
they come from the creator of the universe. And to me, that answer actually helps unify
the worldview. It actually helps it all make sense and come together that there is
something acting, something that's acted from the beginning or however you want to state it,
that's put these laws into motion. And I think people resist that as well. So they may
somewhat accept and hear what you're saying and start to get along with the natural law.
But when it has to come from a creator, oh, I can't quite go that far with you. But
to me, it doesn't make sense unless you add that component. So it's really just kind of
taking the worldview and unifying it holistically.
These are the same kind of people. And I'll preface this by saying I'm neither a
religionist or an atheist. I reject both of those false dichotomous paradigms and schisms,
because that's what they are. They are dialectics. They are Hegelian dialectics
for people to fall into so that they never understand the truth of how our reality is
structured and operates, which is knowable, which is not something that is unknowable.
I say part of the worldview has to be the truth is knowable, the biggest lie
and the biggest destruction of a healed worldview is that the truth is not knowable.
Truth is knowable. If we work hard enough to understand what's really taking place around
us, that takes observation, that takes dedication, that takes intelligence,
that takes care to learn and know what it is. It is not unknowable. The universe is not here to
torment us with its unknowability. That's part of a sick, twisted, distorted, psychopathic worldview
that everything is here as a prison to torment us. No, it is not. This is not an evil domain.
This is a domain of free will and consequence, choice and consequence. That's the big lesson
here. How do you organize your choice? How do you structure and organize your free will choices
so that you can gain maximum benefit? You can liken it to game theory because
natural law has been game theory. The mathematician John Nash actually wrote about natural law
mathematically in his paper called Equilibrium. They made a movie about it called A Beautiful
Mind with Russell Crowe and Jennifer Connolly, one of some of the best acted parts in I think all of
film and one of the best movies ever made. If people haven't seen it, watch that film. What's
it about? Governing dynamics. That's the key thing in the film. That's what natural law is.
How do you receive the maximum beneficial outcome? And that's what I'm trying to get
people to see and understand. They're resistant to that because of religion.
Because they have a religion, whether it's a cultural religion, whether it's the religion
of authority, whether it's the religion of scientism, whether it's the religion of atheism,
doesn't matter. It's all erroneous thought. It's all you don't have enough information
and you think you do. See, that's where I perhaps went even overboard excessively in the
other direction. The amount of information that I took in to understand what I understand because
I saw what I saw, it drove me into a state of over the top drive into let's just say what it is,
obsession. It drove me into a state of complete obsession. I would absolutely say
I became obsessed with understanding what was really going on in this world. When I saw,
I got a little pullback of the curtain and a peek around the other side and saw who's running the
game, who's running the show, what their ideology is, what their worldview is, what their
methodologies are. And thank God I did because I was a stubborn motherfucker, a really stubborn soul
in my youth, worse than you could possibly imagine. And it's almost like that was
ordained or arranged for me. I don't even want to think about it like fate.
I don't like that notion. I believe, yes, perhaps we are led in certain directions and then
our behavior expresses those tendencies one way or another. I don't necessarily believe in just
fate. I'm not a determinist. We could talk about those with that worldview in a moment. But
when I was led to be able to take a peek behind the curtain and behind the corridors of power in
this world and see what it really was, that is when I was scared straight, you could say.
That's what made my worldview start to crack because I was just as stubborn as other people.
And when I saw what was really running things, who was really running things and how,
that's when I said, I've been wrong. And maybe without that experience,
that wouldn't have happened. I don't know. I was pretty damn stubborn. Okay, so this is people's
problem is they're subscribing either to a worldview of religionism or atheism, which ultimately is
all religionism. And this is why I tell people, it doesn't matter what false system of belief
you're subscribing to, it's all religion. That's what religion is. It's a cage for the mind.
And again, traditional religionists have a big problem with this and want to fight you on it because
they're so cultishly addicted to their nonsensical cultural religions. And atheists and scientism
believers want to fight you on this because they're so addicted to their non-belief in a creative,
underlying intelligence in nature. And they're, you know,
absolutely stubborn attachment to government grant money funded science, which they think is real
science. Okay, and we don't have real science operating in this world, quite frankly, we have
very few places where real true science is actually operating. There are some, there are
pockets of it, but it is not all the places that people refer to as science. I have news for
you. Okay, I saw this firsthand working in a scientific institution, which most people have
never worked in a scientific institution. And admittedly, my role was technology support,
but I heard conversations and I heard people say, you know, you think we're looking for cures here
just because this is a medical research facility, we're looking for treatments. That's what brings
grant money. That's what brings funding. You cure something that puts this to bed.
You don't ever speak that word. I heard a department chief in the hematology oncology section
of the University of Pennsylvania say that to one of his scientific assistants in his laboratory
because he thought I wasn't in the room because I was under a desk unplugging ethernet cables.
Yeah. So you want to talk about science? To me, I've been around scientific institutions.
I worked in research laboratories. Okay, I know what goes on in there, and I know how the paradigm
is controlled by money. So again, I do not take a religious worldview, nor do I take an atheistic
worldview. Those are galleon dialectics to divide people's mind and keep them away from the
truth. The truth is nature has a creative underlying intelligence. I don't care whether
you want to call it God, you can call it the creative underlying intelligence inherent in nature.
If you want to put it in as quote, scientific worldview is possible. Something created matter
and the laws that govern it, something to created the forces that ultimately govern matter,
the laws that ultimately govern those forces. This is why we talk about the laws of thermodynamics,
the laws of gravity, etc. We are governed by the laws that ultimately apply to behavior.
People will think a complete atheist and a scientism believer will say everything in the
universe is governed by law because they're reductionist to materialism. And then when you
say, well, oh, is your behavior governed by law? Oh, no, that's different because consciousness
is some random chaotic thing that happens in the brain. And that's exempt from those laws. No,
it isn't. And it isn't a random chaotic thing. It's a highly organized, structured form of
differentiation of matter that requires intelligence to have ever formed into something like that.
They want to pick and choose. They want to take part of a worldview and integrate it. So it's
more of utilitarianism for them to take aspects of I'm going to use some logic. I'm going to take
that logic and my mathematics, these concepts that don't physically exist in the physical world
and apply them to my materialistic deterministic worldview. That's right. That's exactly
correct. I couldn't have said it any better. You're providing a transcendental argument that
I don't think they would accept that they would. That's why they wouldn't accept your
argument because it transcends the physical and it integrates a God, a creator into the
worldview, which to me helps unify the whole thing and make it make sense.
Yes. It's not a religious notion. It's just a logical notion. It's reasonable.
And these people's worldview, it's coming from Newtonian materialism, which has since been
long scientifically disproven. It's coming from Hegelianism. It's coming from Marxism,
Marxist materialism, which is the underlying of all kinds of totalitarian beliefs,
namely communism, etc. It's coming from a Darwinistic worldview as well. And all of these,
again, as you said, lead to deterministic worldview. This is the worldview schism.
Is it deterministic or is it random? And in the left brain schism, it could be either one of those
things, pure randomness and chaos or total determinism based on materialism and matter.
Even in the religious worldview, it could be completely deterministic because in their
worldview, God controls everything, is all knowing, is all seeing, is all powerful,
and so all choices preordained and predetermined. So where is the role of free will?
The truth is in neither one of those extremity positions, the truth is a unified form of
a worldview that is arrived at through reason and through investigation into the laws of nature.
And it both has a component that is deterministic and a component that is random somewhat.
And that is the deterministic component is natural law. There are laws that are inescapable
in their consequence. So if I take this piece of paper and I let it go, does it fall
downward toward the center of the earth? Yes, it does. That's a law that is operating
as long as we are here on earth. It's deterministic. It's a function of the natural realm and how it
is structured where we are at right now. You go off into space and you hold this and it'll just
hover there because the gravitational force of the earth is not going to apply to it there.
That's still a law. That's still how the laws of nature are operating in the domain
where you are currently at. It's not random. That's the deterministic component of the laws of
matter. The same applies to behavior. They're not random. They're deterministic. They work a
certain way all the time everywhere in the universe. So that's the deterministic component,
natural law, the governing dynamics of behavioral consequence for intelligent beings,
for holistically intelligent beings who have the capacity for holistic intelligence and reason
and the understanding of the difference between right and wrong behavior. The randomness component
is free will because I could exercise free will and snap these eyeglasses in half for no reason.
I could also not do that and place them back down on the desk.
I could take that piece of paper that I just held and tear into million pieces
even though it has important information on it that I want to keep. I'm going to exercise my free
will not to do that. It's the same thing when it comes to natural law and how we interact with
consequential law of behavior. We exercise the randomness component and we try to do it
not randomly. We try to do it in an ordered fashion that is based in the understanding
of the law. So again, as I said, if you do understand the laws of
electromagnetism, you are not going to take a metal object like a butter knife and insert it
with a bare hand into an electrical outlet. You're not going to go to a high tension power line
that just may have come down and you see sparking and it's all live obviously and go grab it
like that unless you want to die. So the understanding of the law means we exercise our
free will in an intelligent capacity. If you know that there's a jagged rocky bottom to a
thousand foot cliff, you don't go and do a triple somersault over the edge of the cliff because
you're going to be dead when you hit the bottom because you know how the law of gravity
operates in this space. So even if you don't know how it operates, you can observe it. That one's
more observable. You could throw a ball. I might not be able to describe it correctly. Throw a basketball
off and watch it explode when it hits the jagged rocks. But I don't have to know the mathematics
behind it. So even just like human beings living together a certain way, I can observe ways that
work and ways that are very destructive. And I don't have to go as deep as you've gone,
like you said, obsessively seeking. But you know, people don't want to accept it. So that like in
your presentation, I wanted to go into a little bit here, two masks, same face. We don't want to accept
what these behaviors of humanity does on the mass scale. And we're about to basically repeat the
same thing that you discussed in that presentation. How have your thoughts changed or looking back
on that presentation since doing it pretty recently? What are some thoughts on the
overall presentation and how it went? I'd have to say it was well received by my community of people
and people who want to open up their mind and their worldview to understanding how totalitarianism
actually results in our world, how it progresses and how it results and how it is driven by
sick occult religious worldviews, meaning worldviews that are hidden and eventually express
in completely devastatingly destructive ways to human freedom and life. But they originate as
occult belief systems that are brewing and bubbling under the surface of our society.
And that was like an eight hour presentation on the underpinnings within occult belief systems
and occult societies that led to the formation of both the Nazi Third Reich and the Soviet Union
and Communist China and just worldwide communism in general. The Bolshevik revolution leading
to the Soviet Union and now the Chinese Communist Party. So there is devastating colossal proof
that these ideologies were not just things that came out of regular society but were
fomented deliberately by occult orders and dark occult practitioners. I went into it in painstaking
incredibly deeply researched detail that took eight hours to unfold and unpack. And I would say that
while the small percentage that comprises what I would again call the natural law-based freedom
community responded to it very well, did it really change minds on any kind of a mass scale or
people interested in this understanding of this aspect of occultism in a wider way? No,
they're very rigidly attached to their religious belief systems and they don't even think that they
have religious beliefs. All of these people would describe themselves as non-religious, non-spiritual
even, atheist, materialist and yet they have the most deeply held, cultish, absolute cult driven
religious minds of anybody that I could even cite. That's how rigidly attached they are to
completely religious notions of false belief systems that don't do anybody any good,
that don't progress humanity, that don't get you to the state that you say you want to go to.
It's just erroneous thinking leading to completely distorted results. This just really comes from
not knowing how to think. It comes from distortion of thought. When you have distorted thought,
your outcomes are all going to be skewed and off. It's like if you're a computer programmer
and you get one period in the wrong place, you get one semicolon in the wrong place,
you get one comma in the wrong place, your whole program is done, it's shot, it doesn't work right.
This is why being correct and having a methodology for being correct is so critically important.
You have to understand how to arrive at the truth. That's epistemology.
Ontologically, you have to have a accurate view of reality in general. You have to be
ontologically sound and not be just driven by fantasy and completely fantastic views of how
things work in the world. You can't be driven by dreaming and illusion. Even before you start
an ontological process, you have to have somewhat of a healthy mindset, an epistemological process.
You have to have somewhat of a healthy ontology. Once you then start exploring epistemologically,
you have to arrive at an understanding of how we arrive at truth, and that is through the
trivium process. The trivium process means you first have to gather all the data, the grammar.
You have to gather the information. People are talking about things that they have no
information about. They're trying to say that they know how things work when they
haven't even gathered the grammar to themselves. They haven't read the material. They haven't read
the information. They haven't even gathered the information, let alone poured through it.
They haven't performed the second stage of the trivium, which is pouring through all the data
once you've gathered it and sifting through it and weeding out logical inconsistencies
and logical fallacies from the data set to arrive at an accurate understanding of what
all the data means. You have to gather it all. You have to sift through it. You have to weed out
all of the things that don't make sense to come to a logical sensible conclusion about what it
actually means. That's the understanding process. And then once you do that, your job is just
beginning because you have to act rightly upon the data set and the understanding of the data
set. That's the trivium. Right action is wisdom. That's the third step. So it's knowledge,
understanding, and wisdom. People are trying to jump right to the action aspect, the rhetoric
of the trivium, without gathering the grammar of the trivium in the first stage and garnering a
correct understanding of the data set in the second stage. They're not even performing
the two first steps of the trivium in the correct order and they can never be taken
out of that order. It's knowledge, understanding, wisdom. Another way of saying it is grammar,
logic, and rhetoric. And if you want to look at it in the modern sense, I look at it in a computer
analogy sense. It's input, processing, and output. You've got to input the data,
process it in the computer, doing the logical transforms that it's going to do with its
processing capability. And then you've got to output it in a structured form on the screen and then
off to the internet so that other people can learn from it. This is how we learn and grow.
This is the resistance in the so-called freedom community. They don't want to perform
the scientific methodology. They just want to formulate a nonsensical belief and run with
it and then act on it. And you think you're going to get orderly results based in freedom
and prosperity. You're going to get disorganized chaos in every aspect of your life because you
don't know how to think properly because the school system fucked up your brains with indoctrination,
didn't teach you the correct methodology of learning and truth discovery.
And then you're running with that ball blindly, not knowing where you're taking yourself and
the rest of society as a result. I like how you said you have to do it in order,
but then also I would just push back a little and say, but you also have to go back and fix
the bugs in the computer analogy. So you had some input and then you processed it into some output
and it was pretty good, but you noticed there were some issues. So yes, it needs to be done in
order, but it's also not done in order because you got to go back. And we also can't collect
all the grammar in the first go. You were saying earlier, even yourself is still doing some
internal work, still doing the trauma, still doing past history, still learning. You never
really stopped going down that path. Yes, we can come to conclusions. We were talking about
worldviews earlier, which are conclusions that you're putting forward. It's not that they're
unmovable. It's just they're more foundational in what you're putting forward. But it doesn't
mean if I'm learning about the trivia itself that I don't go back and go, you know, I
never really thought about that. And I never really looked at it this way. So I got to
modify things in how I'm putting this forward. And so with the trivia, I've seen a lot of
issues myself with people sort of claiming that now that they understand what the trivia is that,
oh, now I've got the, you know, like you said, they'll skip over the grammar, the logic and jump
to a lot of conclusions still. So I love the trivia method. I think it is a great tool,
but I also see it being misused, you know. Yes, absolutely. And that's because people
aren't doing that refinement on the data set and the transforms that they apply to it. Again,
it is a process that is going to be revised as new information comes to light. So it,
but it also doesn't mean that you stay silent forever just because you don't have the totality
of everything. You want to act upon what you have determined is true, what you have determined
to the best of your ability is true and put that out there for other people to learn from.
And that's how the scientific community should work. We put our results out
and then they are tweaked and refined as new information is brought to light
and new conclusions are then published. So it's always a matter of refining the process and
refining the rhetoric that goes hand in hand with the process. So absolutely,
that's very correct as you stated. Keeping it in the technical vein.
We need technical skills in this battle. What is your perception on how people are
using technical skills or not using their lack of technical skills in this battle?
I am fighting not to put my head in my hands right now. It is one of the things that I harp
on endlessly almost every single solitary day. The ignorance when it comes to the
utilization of technology in our world is so colossal, so profound, so overwhelming that I
want to cry. It makes me want to weep into my hands. I don't know how else I could state it.
I can't overstate how bad that is, that condition. And I just see people every
single day. They have no idea how to use a computer. They have no idea how to
just even catalog the simplest of data. They have no idea how to even
basically take a digital photo and put it in a folder. They have no idea how to
pay for something electronically. They have no idea how to use cryptocurrency.
They can't print anything. They don't know how to make a PDF document.
Forget about using a digital camera or a video camera or publishing something on the
internet or God forbid making a website. I mean, technical ignorance is one of the hallmarks
of why we're being defeated. It's one of the underlying main reasons why freedom is being
destroyed because the average person is a Luddite moron when it comes to technology and
publishing. And they still haven't even made the connection that the truth has to get out
there through technological means. You're not going to tell your neighbor something by word of mouth
with no formalization, with no immortalizing of the data and information, and not put it online
for other people to inspect and learn from. And it's fleeting. It's ephemeral. It's gone in
an instant. And they believe that's how the truth is going to get out there into the world,
not through technology, not through learning how to publish, not through putting things online,
putting things in places that can't be censored, that are going to really be
eternal like blockchain technology, at least to the extent that as long as the planet exists
and the internet exists along with it. How people can't come to the conclusion
that the solution, which is teaching people objective morality and natural law,
has a technological component, which is the means and methodology to get the word out to the public.
It's like their brains literally can't come to logical conclusions because they've been so
damaged literally brain-wise. The mind and brain have been damaged chemically.
They're like chemically lobotomized in a way. And again, that takes unbelievably hard work
to come out of, but it is possible. The brain is plastic. The mind is plastic. And I don't mean
literal plastic. Plasticity means it can come back from damage. And in the forms of damage
that we're talking about, it is very possible with hard effort, with hard work, to improve
the plasticity of the brain and the mind and bring them into better conditions.
It is not impossible to improve people. A dumb person can be turned into a smart person. It is
definitely absolutely possible, but it's one of the hardest things to do in life. I'm living proof
of it. I was not a smart person in my youth. I may have had the capacity for intelligence,
but I was not utilizing that capacity. I was believing things that were told to me
and jumping from one belief system to another. Now, I have actual intelligence that I have worked
and honed through the Trivium method, through deep study. This is not something that just comes
to you in an instant, in a flash of lightning or some satori moment of awakening. This took
years of brutal hard work and sacrifice to come out of a pre-existing mindset and heal my mind
and my brain and my worldview and my soul and work toward the betterment of my life
and my understanding of things. That's the whole purpose of life. This is what the ultimate
long-term goal and purpose of life on this planet is about, learning and growth as a being,
as a soul. People still haven't gotten that. They think it's collecting the most toys or the most
money or the most comfort. I mean, if you believe that that absolute selfish and self-serving
worldview of life is the correct one, that's again, complete and utter delusion. This comes
from a complete materialist worldview. Again, that's the worldview schism that has to be
healed. This isn't about materialism. This isn't about matter as being prime and everything being
spiritless, soulless. It isn't about believing in that God controls everything and he has these
things he doesn't want you to do. The church tells you exactly what those things are or the
synagogue tells you what those things are to do or not do. We have to understand that
natural law is not written in any religious text. It's written on the human heart. It's written in
the human soul. That's what in biblical scriptures Jesus meant when he said,
the kingdom of God is within. You're going to find those answers by turning inward,
not looking outward to religious answers or scientific answers. We need a holistic worldview
that brings together an understanding of natural law and free will of science and spirituality,
because they're not different. They're one thing, operating together to bring us the
results of what we are going to experience and learn and grow from in life. People have just
not made that worldview schism healing and that worldview change. That transcendental
change mechanism has not really taken off and worked through them yet,
because they're still clinging to dead religious belief systems regardless of what form they take.
And you put your money where your mouth is. You teach a class how to become the true media,
actually trying to help people improve their technological skills. It wasn't just bashing
people. You're actually out there trying to help people that want to learn. I took the
class. It was a wonderful class and absolutely overwhelming, by the way. There's just so much
information provided. Thank you. I appreciate that. And yes, it can be a lot to take in, but we have
to start somewhere and build our understanding. And it's challenging. It's not something that
I expect people to just immediately get. You have to work at it like anything else. If you're
going to go and hit the gym and get in shape, you've got to work at it. You're not going
to see the results immediately. You'll see the results down the line as you habituate the process
and do it more and more. Practice leads us closer to being perfect. We're never going to arrive at a
condition of perfection. This is one of the things I teach in the seminar is that there's no such
thing as perfection. You're not trying to strive or arrive at perfection. You're trying
to compete with yourself from yesterday and better yourself and have a better understanding of
what to do. I ask people in the freedom movement, how do you think ideas about freedom are going to
propagate themselves? And the answers that you get are honestly, they're just the stupidest
things that you've ever heard. We're going to vote somebody into office. We'll get people
to start going to church again. Just telling it to your children and your family is the
answer. I've never heard more ridiculous nonsensical things drool out of people's mouths. And again,
there's no easy way of telling this to people. Like, how do you tell somebody
that's really, really, really dumb? That's really stupid because they haven't logically thought
it through. If you don't understand technology, you don't know how to publish things that
can reach millions of people's eyes, ears, and minds and then change them internally. Help to
change them internally. You're not going to immediately change them. You're going to give
them the tool set by which and through which they can change themselves. But if that's not out there,
what is out there? All the propaganda of the mainstream media, all the propaganda of the
government and the school systems and the false scientific systems and the false
religions, they have all their systems of broadcasting to people's minds in place and active.
And you think you're going to cut through all of that tech. You're going to cut through all of that
bombardment of their false message and false religion and their mind control methodology
by speaking something to your next door neighbor that they'll never hear again.
You have to publish online. You have to go public. You have to speak out publicly. You have to record
what you say in it. There has to be a record of the things that you've taught. You have to publish
it in books. You have to publish it in videos. You have to publish it in audio. You have to
publish it in presentation and lecture form. And you have to immortalize it by putting it
on uncensurable areas of the internet, which involves more likely than not some type of blockchain
technology by which it's going to act as a ledger of data and information for posterity into the future.
I don't know how anybody can come to any other logical conclusion. And the reason they don't
is because they're not thinking logically. They don't know how to think progressionally
one step at a time through. They can't take it like that because they've never been taught to.
They've never been taught how to think. They've only been taught what to think. These are the
same people that think that the answer is going to come in this form. Mark, you're not teaching
solutions because you haven't said Jim or Sally, this is step number one. I'm going to write it
down for you. And that's step one that you have to take in the world. And I've given you step one.
Now, after you're done step one, I'm going to write down step two for you on a list. And then
you're going to go do that. That's not how life and any solutions work, ladies and gentlemen.
We have to understand the true solutions from a conceptual point of view first. This is why
and how to become the true media where I teach people technology on how to become content creators
so that they can publish their findings online regarding the state of our world and how to truly
fix that condition. I lost my train of thought briefly. I was talking about
how to become the true media and where was I going with it?
The first step, the first idea, the first tenet of what I teach and how to become the true
media is this isn't something that you do in step one, step two, step three, like a grocery
list. The first tenet of how to become the true media is the concept is king. If you cannot think
conceptually, if you cannot understand unifying principles and ideas, you're not going to understand
the tasks and the steps that have to come later as a result of your understanding of concept.
This is why I tell people a computer task that you might want to do to put something online,
let's say, is going to involve certain pieces of software. It will involve an operating system,
a piece of software, and usually a workflow of some kind, a method by which you're going
to do this task. You don't just jump to the task, you don't make just an SOP,
a standard operating procedure that says trained monkey do this, step one, do this, step two,
do this. You can do that, but is the person going to walk away with an accurate understanding of why
that was necessary to do? No, they're just going to act as a trained monkey.
Nobody should act as a trained monkey because you know what that is? That's an order follower.
Order followers are trained monkeys. I don't want an army of order followers. I want an army of
intelligent people who understand conceptually why this is the answer and why we need to implement
it. They have to be autodidactic. That means they're ultimately teaching themselves. We're
teaching themselves how to do it. I don't want trained order followers. That's the exact opposite
of what I want. I want trained order followers eradicated from existence and not necessarily
physically, but choosing not to become people like that and not to go into those professions.
What we teach in how to become the true media is the number one thing is to understand
what you are doing from a conceptual framework, meaning the steps might change tomorrow. If the
operating system changes, you might have a completely different workflow tomorrow. If the
software program changes, you're not going to go through the same steps and menus and buttons.
What if software is discontinued and it no longer works after a certain period of time
and you can't stay on the same computer forever, so eventually you have to move to a
new piece of software to accomplish the task in technology and computing?
If you don't know conceptually what to do, you're looking at the computer program and you're like,
I don't know how to work this, but conceptually, if you know what to do, you can figure it out
in two minutes. I've looked at programs this year on how to become the true media. I opened up
a desktop publishing software program that I had never used once, ever. I've used things like
Clark Express, I've used things like Adobe InDesign, I've used things like Apple's Pages,
Microsoft Word for it, although I don't think that's a great tool for that task,
but I've used the industry standard stuff for those tasks and I used to do that professionally.
I opened up a piece of software that I had never launched and made a page layout using that software
in minutes. How? Because I don't just study tasks like a trained monkey going about step one,
step two, step three, step four. That's not logical organized thinking based in truth
discovery methods. That's laziness and this is what the freedom community is and does and wants.
They want to remain lazy. That's why they don't want to learn technology. That's why they don't
want to become broadcasters. That's why they think somebody else is going to solve it when
they vote them in or it's going to all get solved when we reform the finance system.
They're delusional people. You have to understand things from an underlying causal
and conceptual framework first or you do not understand how things truly work or why they
work that way. That's why a person who doesn't understand the conceptual principles of desktop
publishing is not going to open up a piece of software that they've never seen before
and figure out how to make an organized layout that they're ready to print in five to ten minutes.
Somebody who understands conceptually how that software is supposed to work
and works and if the developer is laying things out in somewhat of a logical layout
interface wise, they will learn that technology in minutes, not hours or even days in minutes
because conceptually they know the concepts involved. It's the same thing when it comes to human
behavior and freedom. You have to understand the underlying conceptual framework and the
underlying laws. If you don't understand that from a natural perspective in the realm of point
of fact nature and how it operates, you are wandering blindly through a desert of dead
ideology and you're not learning and you're not growing and you're not progressing in your
understanding and you're certainly not implementing a true solution. This is where my work is differentiated
from other people and because it's more difficult to grasp because most people are those trained
monkeys or want to be those trained monkeys and don't want to think at a higher conceptual
level, most influencers who want to reach the maximum amount of people and who want to
do things from the lowest common denominator approach, don't want to discuss the ideas that I
discussed. They don't want to bring me on. They don't want to have that discussion. They want to
talk to trained monkeys who they can tell do step one, do step two, do step three like the
trained monkey you are who doesn't even understand why the hell you're doing what you're doing.
That's not part of the solution, ladies and gentlemen. That's doing more harm in the world
and I'm going to continue to say that until eventually it hits their heart. Maybe their
heart will be melted at some point to a point. Maybe you need to see way more people shot dead
and I'm telling you, if you think that's bad, you don't know what war is going to be.
People who think what we saw yesterday with Charlie Kirk was bad. You don't know what war
is going to be. You have no conceptualization mentally what it's going to involve and be and
look like. None whatsoever because it will be so infinitely fucking worse than that.
You can't imagine it from the place you're at. I'm saying that with the utmost serious
and the utmost gravitas in my voice because I'm trying to avert that. All of the influencers
out there, you want to understand why this is happening? You want the solution to be implemented
so it doesn't happen anymore? You better start talking about natural law from a very serious
perspective and this is really again symbolically what the G in the middle of the compass is in
square and Freemasonry is about. I've told people it ultimately does stand for the generative
principle. You have to care enough. You have to care. You have to deeply inside of your being.
You have to care so much for the truth and you have to care for what the real solutions are.
You need to stop analyzing the results, the effects. They're over and done with. Nothing's
going to bring an assassinated man back to life but we can understand the causal factors that
led to this from a moral perspective and start talking about those things instead
of political and financial analysis which isn't leading humanity anywhere except into deeper
chains. That's where that's leading people, not into a state of true freedom. That's what I hope
will eventually unfold. Maybe their hearts will eventually be touched and melted somehow.
I don't know if that's in the cards but I do know the path that we're on as far as what
people are doing and what influencers are doing and how they're trying to garner audiences.
I'm not worried about a big audience. I want this message to get out. Of course I want to be
able to keep my operation running and then keep a roof over my head. People would dare say you
can't make any resources from this. You're supposed to be some pauper. You're supposed
to be some person that doesn't have two cents to rub together so I can't even buy resources
that I need to do this work or to pay a mortgage on a house to keep a roof over my head and feed
myself. The nerve of people like that. You don't know what's involved because you haven't lifted a
fucking finger. That's the real thing that hits home. You want to call people who are really
doing this kind of work and asking for donations for resources. You want to call them names
and say that they're not genuine because they're telling you that they need resources to continue
an operation based in telling the truth. People have no idea what's involved in any part of this
because you know how much they've done of it? Fucking zero. Zero. They haven't lifted a pinky
finger. They've sat on their asses and complained is what they've done and they've
complained about the people who are actually involved in the battle when they've been
sitting on their lazy asses doing nothing and that's why I've been so hard on people
and those are the factors that really need to change if we're going to get out of this mess.
Yeah, I see people want the infotainment like you're saying and the influencers are playing
right into that and they'll think that like you know off gritting or getting on some solar panels
or getting some goats and chickens as part of the solution and I think what the part of the
issue is they may want to affect real change in the world but the focus and concentration
that it would take them to get into the skill sets that you're talking about is overwhelming to them
and so maybe that's part of the aspect of care but let's talk about focus and concentration
in getting into that work and you know the lack of that and I think what people are doing out
gardening potatoes and stuff is somewhat easier and like less resistant into going into that
behavior it's not like it's easy I'm not saying that it's it's just it's kind of like a natural
way to just be and then but you're not affecting change on the wider scale though and I think part
of it is not just that they don't care but also just that that focus and concentration muscle
has not been built it's not it's not there so that they when they sit down to do like you're
saying they're looking for a task and it kind of starts to melt away the commitment to this
sitting at a desk plus if they you know it's a lot of sitting here yes if they look at what the real
great work is to do they're often put off by it they they realize intuitively and subconsciously
how difficult a task we are really up against listen to what the task is ladies and gentlemen
if you want one overarching task this is it you must dissolve away in your own mind
and then in all other people's minds religious thought that's the great work that is what
has to happen think about how difficult that is how clinging to the death people are of
nonsensical religious ideas that is burned into their burnt brains it is burnt in there so deep
that it is one of the most challenging things to get them to see reason and to get them to see
truth they don't want to they've installed that virus software program into the mind
deliberately because they don't want the responsibility that comes hand in hand
with knowing the truth and the real solution and knowing how difficult that is to do
and again when I'm talking I want to just go back to that brief symbolism that I was starting
to unpack for a moment the G in the middle of the compass is in squares not only about the
generative principle of care which I've talked about in my work I call that the lost or
eighth principle of the hermetic principles which is a tradition that talks about natural law and
the underpinning um principles that really lay under it as a foundation for its expression in
the world and I think that they are missing the most important of all the principles and that's
what do we deeply care about oh we can talk about rhythm and gender and consequences you know
correspondence etc all day but if we don't talk about what drives the heart we're missing the
biggest unifying factor what we care about enough to actually try to do in the world to make an
effort is what will ultimately manifest and if we don't care enough it will not manifest
so do we care enough to change people's minds so that it puts them in the mindset of a true
understanding of how freedom works and how natural law works do we actually care enough to do that
or do we just want the easy route and say I'm going to try to live as off for it as possible
so that people don't bother me until the world is completely destroyed and then eventually they
come and eat me and and devour me in the process it's like that's not the answer isolation is not
the answer engagement is the answer that's why you think I agree with a political analysis
and commentator like Charlie Kirk I don't I don't share his views on just about anything
politically I'm a radical anarchist that rejects the notion of authority entirely
because I understand authority is a claim of ownership on another being and completely usurping
their free will and that's not called authority that's called that's a euphemism it's a euphemism
for the real thing that it is slavery I don't accept or believe in the moral legitimacy of slavery
but if you don't understand that's a completely reprehensible immoral act
there's something broken in your brain in your heart and in your soul and the the point is what I
did respect about the man he's having a discourse with people he's not just jumping to violence
he's trying to explain his point of view I have respect for anybody that could do that in an
intelligible way so it's it's this is tragic this is nothing to celebrate you know this is
horrifying and it's going to get infinitely more horrifying yeah this is the very beginning
this is this is first shots fired ladies and gentlemen if you think it's not going to get
worse from here on out based on the mindset that is out there you're nuts okay so the G
not only represents the generative principle of care which drives everything it underlies all
from the perspective of the force of nature of the physical force of gravity but that is the
unifying force right that's what physicists have been looking for the quantum theory of gravity
the unified field theory whatever you want to call it the force that unifies all of the
forces of physical forces of nature is gravity and it means gravity but not in that sense
it means gravity from the sense of this is important this has gravity this has weight
this has gravitas this is serious this is not a joke this is not a game this is not social
hour or a social scene this is not anything that should be taken lightly this is something
that should be taken with extreme seriousness and gravity that's the other thing that the G
in the middle of the compass is in square is and that's what the generative principle is
and that's what natural law is it is the unifying field it is the unifying law
care is what unifies everything if we don't understand that we're lost and that's what
people have to start talking about they have to start talking about the true esoteric causal
underlying principles that are the ultimate causal factors and the ultimate conceptual
ideas that need to be understood not political and financial analysis or new tech or new ways
of growing food we're getting off grid if you think those are the answers and the solutions
i hate to break the news to you but you're going around in yet another religion in another box
for consciousness you're in another track you're in another cul-de-sac the influencers out there
have to get on to the understanding of natural law if you're going to change anything in this life
and if you want i will help to bring that understanding to the public i personally don't
even want to do this anymore i haven't wanted to do this for a long time i feel like i've
said everything i've ever needed to say or want to say all i can do is rehash and reword things in
slightly different ways to help people get a better understanding of it that is torture it is
it's something that i recognize needs to be done but when you really live your life on repeat like
that it's not fun you don't enjoy it you start to you start to feel like it is a burden and
it is because so few people have done it if there were a million people doing this in the world and
i mean to my level every day dedicating their lives to this the dent that we would put in what's going
on in our world would be colossal i think one million people not even doing as good of a job
as me we'd reverse the course of our world within a couple of years i've said this before
i've like run these numbers in my mind because i have a very logically structured mind and a
mathematical mind that can really see systems i see things from a systems level i would have been a
good systems administrator you know i was more of a desktop technician when i professionally did that
but i see whole systems at work i would have been a good actuary probably i could have done that
i think i have a high enough i queue to do that and i see patterns and things and whole systems
logically enough that i could have probably done actuarial work and you know what people have to do
is start seeing things from a higher level perspective and understand this is what has
to be looked at and studied you know that i don't want to have to be the only person that does
this and again the numbers that i've run if we had about a million people doing a half
decent job you're right like not even at the level that i've pushed for this if they did it
even halfway decent one million souls on this planet doing that and teaching natural law
could probably change our reality for the better and create a state of freedom within a few years
a few years at my estimate if we had i'm going to say between one and five thousand people
doing this at my level or even more dedicated we would reverse course of the the condition
of humanity within six months that's how fast the change would overtake they would not be able
to stop it from a consciousness perspective from a change from an overwhelming change in
consciousness and worldview that's how fast it would happen we don't even have a hundred people
doing this at that level not even a hundred on the earth on the whole planet so people just
have to open up their minds and start pressing for the real solution instead of all of these
pseudo solutions and just all of this discussion and analysis of things that are not going to make
the real change happen in this world and it's a hard bubble to burst for people it's a very hard
thing for them to hear uh they're very emotionally attached they're egotistically attached
they're psychologically attached to these false solutions and i just again i i'll end all my most
of my interviews or at least contain this in them i implore the people with the really big
audiences reevaluate your life's work you're not doing you're not putting out the real solutions
at all you haven't been and you're not now give your heart over to what the real solution needs
to be study it i'm not asking for belief it's something that you can learn you can study
you can understand how it works you could even experiment within your own life or even on a
wider scale if you want there's no belief required in this solution you need to understand a law that
is operating in nature this is like telling people understand how gravity works so you don't go off
the edge of the cliff you don't drive your car off the over the end of a broken bridge if you
know how gravity works you're not going to do those things well if you know how natural law
works you could tell people and teach people how to restructure their thought processes so that they
don't fall for nonsense garbage incorrect erroneous thoughts that are going to lead them nowhere except
to offer a deeper prison in life you teach people that you're giving them the underlying causal
factors for real change in the world you keep teaching political and financial analysis
all you're doing is spinning around on a fucking hamster wheel going nowhere and you're leading
society down a blind alley and that's not helping that's doing harm all your help helping people
get there by taking on a seminar that you're going to be hosting on shadow work yes tell us
about the sacrifice and hardship that people can expect getting in to not only just shadow
work but the great work and a little bit about your seminar as well it's going to be one of the
most difficult lectures seminars presentations for people to hear that i've ever put out
let's just put it that way number one it is going to take people who really want to listen
and listening is a gigantic part of shadow work learning to listen is a massive part of shadow
work and most people don't know how to listen and that's why they don't know how to learn
you know i'll quote the Ramones learn to listen listen to learn learn to listen before you get
burned you know from one of their best albums i think that was mando bizarro the song learn to
listen um they're not learning how to listen because they don't know how to quiet the mind
and make space for learning you can't fill see this glass that i drained of the iced tea during
this uh you know interview is empty now you can fill it because it's empty there's empty space and you
can now fill it and put liquid in it but this glass is largely full of water you can't fill
this glass full of orange juice you could put that much in there but it's going to be very diluted
orange juice you'd have to empty this glass first make space and then you could fill it with orange
juice it's the same with knowledge the mind can't have competing thoughts in it constantly chattering
even when you're trying to learn if there's competing thoughts to the learning process
you're not going to learn the elitists the satanists the social engineers they teach their
children this method they understand that if you have completing competing thoughts
bitter chattering and erroneous you're not going to learn you're not going to get the
methods you're not going to you're certainly not going to devote yourself to anything that's
going to make you receive and achieve your goals this is our community though they
they don't have these methods in hand and i'll give a another masonic allegory and again
i've taught a lot of freemasonry i'm not a lodge freemason i'm not enough i hold no rank you know
i teach it as an allegorical system for morality and for change and learning and growth as i do
many other occult traditions the idea of tiling the lodge is very important when it comes to
shadow work it's something i'm going to talk about in the presentation among many many other
things the tyler of the lodge is the person who goes and guards the door once the lodge
meeting has conducted it has begun it has initiated the lodge in freemasonry the actual
building and the the system of the lodge is an allegory for the mind and the brain and how
one's thought processes work to accomplish goals over time that's what it is allegorically a
symbol of the tyler who guards the entrance to the lodge and makes sure no one who's not a member
and has direct business being in that lodge gets in that door is an allegory for guarding the
mind of intrusive thoughts so that when we're going to do the work that we're going to do
when we're going to focus in like a laser and get the job done follow things through to
their logical conclusion until we have accomplished the task at hand and we have accomplished the work
the tyler guards against intrusive thoughts entering the mind this is what we must learn
to do we must learn to tile the lodge here and people haven't been taught to do that by their
parents by their teachers by their friends and family members by their colleagues and their
clergy etc they've been given completely erroneous thoughts and processes for the mind
that lead us into blind alleys and don't allow us to receive the goals and the results that we
say we want to achieve so the shadow work seminar is going to be on november 11th 2025
enrollment is open at my website water on earth is happening dot com enrollment has been
abysmal there's plenty of seats for anybody that wants to attend
while i shouldn't say that i'm very shocked i thought that there would even be a better
response and there is not it's it's not a good sign so i'm not saying that for sympathy
or for a bunch of people to enroll i'm just telling you people don't want this work they don't
want to do it that's why we're losing we can turn it around still at this very incredibly late hour
we can still turn it around but at the stage that we're in and the direction i see see things
heading in um and people not wanting to do the real work and arrive at the real solutions
and talk about them with other people and really spread them through society i would say
prepare yourself for a lot more eventualities like we witnessed yesterday sadly yeah it's still a
choice and that we still have the question mark on the keyboard uh so final question for you mark
what is your message to the next generation of truth seekers of people coming down this path
here and not as familiar with all the work that obviously you've gone through not familiar with
your work maybe they're just kind of getting into this um and they're looking at yeah maybe one day
i could you know get into that and help out with this problem what's your message to that
generation of people coming on board very simple politics is a religious system of erroneous thought
and occult do not get do not get involved with it and think that that is in any way ever
going to be a solution for humanity moving forward study true spirituality from a positive
light occultic perspective never latching on to one tradition but studying morality from
an eclectic and integral approach do internal work upon yourself to improve your own understanding
of how life and nature work and the laws that govern our behavior and improve and learn and grow
within yourself before trying to enact any other solutions externally then understand
objective morality and natural law and teach that as far and as wide and as freely as possible
and try to influence people to those understandings and outcomes and then we'll see an
improvement in our world in a short factor of time shorter than people would believe if that
work is that ball is picked up and run with it will happen so quickly and organically will be
shocked the problem is not enough of us are currently doing that nowhere near enough
so if you do want to get involved in that expansion of world view and how that process
starts to unfold my website water on earth is happening dot com is there all my information
is up there for free start with the podcast section listen and view my podcast in order at
your own pace watch all of my video lectures and seminars the world view will unfold for you
and you will understand it is all there if you want it you have to want it you have to
care enough for truth to want that badly enough to take the time and make the sacrifice
to go through that material and much of the other material that I talk about and expose
in my lectures and presentations and you will get it and a new world view will unfold and all the
methodologies that you can then employ are also all there so that's my advice to especially young
people out there and I guess that's a good place that we could leave it absolutely and
I would just say it's a hundred percent worth your time and energy and attention to go
through from the beginning marks podcast from number one he's got it on the website so it's
at the top as soon as you click podcast you can start your journey I've gone through it
probably at least two and a half times completely and then obviously all the other work that you've
put out outside of the podcast so definitely worth your time to go through and take mark up on that
offer any final thoughts mark before we Tyler I want to just say thank you for all of your
efforts I enjoy having you on one great work network of the production that you have done
through content creators that you've worked with is phenomenal your own work is phenomenal
keep that up and you know all we can do is continue to try and I just want to thank you for
extending the opportunity to meet it to be interviewed here today so thank you
okay thanks mark you got it