Welcome in to Journey to the New Earth.
I'm Kimberly, I'm so glad you're here today.
This is a very, very special conversation.
And I'm very pleased and grateful
to have Max Lohan back with us today.
I hope you stick around for the entire conversation
because I can almost guarantee you
that this is going to be one of the most
eye-opening discussions you've had in a long, long time.
And make sure that you put your questions over in the chat
because I will be stopping Max from time to time
to field your questions.
So make sure that this is an opportunity
that you take advantage of it
to get the questions answers
because Max is just an absolute wealth of information
on a topic that is still very troubling for people.
But I think it's so very important
for us to understand what is going on in the world.
It kind of brings it all together.
I'd like to introduce Max Lohan.
Max, thanks so much for joining us.
Thank you for having me, Kimberly.
It's always delightful to have a conversation with you.
And mind control is possibly
the most important topic of our time
because it is through this mind control
that we're being used to co-create the reality
that we're in that's not serving us.
So it's a linchpin.
Yeah.
And I think that we're going to really expose
some great information today.
What I'd like to do first, Max,
before I kind of set us up for today's conversation,
for the people who don't know you are new to this topic,
can you give us a little background on your childhood,
how you came to know all this information
that has been hidden from the rest of us,
where you took that and what you're doing now?
Sure, yeah.
Well, I was myself put through
some versions of mind control
called satanic ritual abuse and MKUltra,
which people may or may not have heard about.
I was, my Italian side of the family
was related to what I call the global cult.
And so I was,
I have survived all kinds of things
through that side of my family,
which include being taken to an underground facility in Rome,
which by the way, these exist all over the world
and there's many, many underground facilities
and tunnels all over the planet.
And I was subjected to torture there
and to a lot of MKUltra experiments.
And so when I say torture,
I mean things like electric shock,
temperature extremes,
like being locked in a big industrial sized freezer,
the usual rape, gang rape, beatings,
having to watch the torture
and slow murder of animals and other people,
being put in isolation.
So in certain boxes and chambers
where you don't know if it's night or day
or up or down for periods of time,
having to wear virtual technology goggles
and have my helmet on.
And so that was part of the MKUltra
being having to say into a tape recorder
really horrible things about myself
and then having that replayed to me
over and over with headphones.
They're all sort of techniques there.
So there was that level of it
and that was really on and off
for the first 18 years of my life.
And this facility, this underground facility
was connected to the subterranean levels of the Vatican.
There was a sort of a train that went between them.
So I was taken there
and this would be well below any level of the Vatican
that people think they might know about,
like well below the tombs and all that.
It's really deeply under the ground
and they had a special room with an altar
where I witnessed several times babies
and toddlers and children be brought in.
They would be brutalized severely
so that they would release adrenaline
and then they would be ceremonially put on the altar
and cut with a special knife,
kind of cut from their chin down while alive
and their blood would be collected in these chalices
and there would be VIPs in attendance
of all walks of life
and the chalices would be passed around
and they drink the blood.
If you go research Adrena Chrome,
you'll kind of discover a little bit about that.
They sell it actually.
And they would do these rituals
and give these sacrifices and homage to Lucifer
because the Vatican actually worships Lucifer,
their Luciferian, which if you have eyes to see
you can kind of begin to see
in all their symbology there.
I was also trafficked to different elites,
Italian and also in the United States and New York.
There is also a big underground area, for example,
under the UN where children are provided for VIPs.
I was taken there.
I was taken to different parties.
So sort of black tie very high end parties
in beautiful places and people well dressed
and then children including myself brought in in cages
and then the pedophiles,
they like their certain age and gender and race
of children so they would have their pick
and do whatever they wanted.
Sometimes the parties were on grounds,
so outdoor during the day.
And these were more like hunting parties.
So we were sent out as children to run and hide in the woods
and then we were hunted and then of course
when you were found you were raped and brutalized
in different ways.
And there was always a sacrifice
of at least one child at the end.
These people who participate in this
are the peoples at the highest level of power, wealth
and fame on the planet.
If you reach any high level, you're part of this club,
you wouldn't get there unless you were.
I've seen babies cooked and brought out on platters.
These people are Satanists
and so they eat human flesh and drink blood.
They're also psychopaths so they enjoy inflicting
suffering and their pedophiles.
And really they're also parasitic on an energetic level.
So that's kind of the background that I grew up in
and I was able to get out when I was 18
and I went to the United States and I changed my name
and I studied psychology.
I ended up working with trauma.
No surprise there.
So when I was young I worked in like the jails
and in the inner cities with homeless and addiction.
I worked with domestic violence.
I actually worked with the men and did men's groups.
I worked with children who had been abused.
So I did a variety of that kind of thing
which actually was quite healing for me
to be able to help and do something
because I felt so helpless when I was a child
with all the people that were being harmed
in front of me and I couldn't do anything about it.
I did my healing work, it took me about 10 years.
I was pretty rough to kind of recover from that life.
I had a daughter which really was the best gift
I've ever been given in this lifetime.
And at some point I was sort of saying to spirit,
you know, to God just a frustration
that this is still happening.
This happens to millions of children every year.
Children are kidnapped, children are trafficked through CPS,
children are bred for this,
children of cult families are sucked into this like I was.
So I was saying, you know, what the hell like
this has to stop and I kind of heard, you know,
well then speak out, share your story.
It was pretty terrifying to do that.
I remember after the first time I talked about it,
I had a big backlash, I had panic attacks,
I was sweating, you know, I couldn't sleep that night.
But as I kept talking about it,
it got easier and easier and it evolved into me
interviewing other people, other survivors like myself,
which was for me really amazing to discover
that it wasn't just me, there were all,
a lot of other people who had been through this.
And the more I talked to other survivors,
the more I recognized there's a playbook.
We were sharing the same forms of torture,
the same trauma-based mind control practices.
So I was putting their stories out
and then it evolved more into also interviewing
what I call truth warriors, people who reveal
all these different aspects of our society
and how they actually truly function.
And at some point it became much easier and even fun
to do these interviews.
So if people go to my website, it's unbroken.global.
There's a ton of interviews
and then I've interviewed healers
and consciousness warriors like Penny Kelly and others.
And just an effort to put what I think the formula is
to break the mind, free the mind, break the mind control.
So learn the truth because our world is a stage
and it's a bunch of lies and it's theater.
So that's one part.
And then I also put out a lot of information
on how to heal yourself
because we're all traumatized
if we're born on this planet in this time.
So how do we put ourselves back together
and how do we come together as a human collective
and free ourselves from the situation
that we're currently in?
And as you know,
because you've taken some of my seminars,
I do seminars on different topics.
I did one on mind control, on the Vatican,
on satanic ritual abuse and I'm gonna do more.
I have a monthly membership for people.
So because at some point,
and that was the case for me too,
it's hard sometimes to be in the world with people
that aren't quite at the level of awakeness,
I guess to call it, that we are.
And so we get together every month
and it's people from all different countries in the world
and it's just a really nice community
because we need to start building a community
with each other.
So I have that as an option.
And yeah, so that's kind of what I'm doing now.
And I trained to become a psychologist
and so I help people, a lot of survivors of SRA
because that's a very particular kind of trauma
that the psychological community doesn't know much about
because it's hidden.
I work with survivors of any kind of trauma really.
So I do that as well.
I would imagine that others who had a similar experience
as yours didn't survive.
Oh, yes, many don't survive.
Yeah.
Many don't survive.
And see in the cult when they're doing this to us,
they don't care if children survive or not,
but the ones that do are the ones
that they can train for future roles
either on the global stage or as honeypots
or assassins or super soldiers.
So if you are strong enough to survive that level
of abuse, then you're used and you're trained
by the cult to be an asset.
Yeah, yeah.
It is surprising once this information
gets into your field that they've been able
to keep it hidden for so long
from probably 99.9% of the population.
And I think that that's a tribute to the level
of mind control that we've all been under.
And if you're in the US, which is where I'm located,
it is extraordinary the degree
to which we've been lied to and misled.
I recently took Max's seminar on mind control,
which is excellent.
I can highly recommend it.
And what I can tell you is that although I knew
some of the pillars of mind control,
this seminar brought it all together
in a way that it was just a huge aha for me
to realize the pervasiveness and the thoroughness
by which we have been misled.
And that's what I wanna talk about today
is really hit on the profound level of being lied to
while loving the story we're being told at the same time.
So I think it's important to kind of peel back the layers
and really take a look at
what's actually happening on this planet.
About, I think about a year ago,
I had said to Penny during one of the videos
that she and I did together,
I said humans are so very damaged.
And I just noticed that as a personal observation
in my circle and the people I'd come across in my lifetime,
that there were very, very few that seemed happy,
well adjusted, spending their days doing things
they loved, they felt valued, they felt engaged,
they felt important.
So many people have issues, mental issues
or emotional issues or life issues.
And what I realize now,
and particularly after Max's seminar,
is it's all engineered.
We are a civilization on a planet suffering
from arrested development.
And we have learned, we have been taught
all the wrong things in order to survive on the planet
and interact with each other
in a healthy, nurturing, growing way.
So really where I wanna go today, Max,
is kind of start from the beginning
of what you see as the foundational elements
of mind control.
And then let's go down the rabbit hole
and really kind of unpack and uncover
all the ways that we've been manipulated.
And I said to Max, and this is for you,
those of you watching,
I said to her before we came on,
I live in the United States.
I spent my life feeling so proud to be an American
and so fortunate that I lived in the United States.
I just felt proud and lucky.
And what I understand today is that
the population in the United States of America
is probably the most mind controlled population
ever on the face of this planet in its entire history.
We have been so profoundly set up
with lies in every area
that now I see it completely differently.
And I'm really working very hard
to pull at all those strings of misinformation and lies
so that I can then view the world
without that filter of control.
So that's the setup, Max.
Where would you like to start on a huge topic?
Oh boy.
Well, we can start there.
So this, okay.
So there is a global cult who runs the world
and they've run it successfully
because of secrecy and deception
and keeping from us,
keeping us very devolved,
physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually,
precisely because we are so powerful.
We are these beautiful, light-filled, radiant beings
where creators were connected to the life force.
So they have had to spend a lot of time, resources,
money and effort into mind controlling us
and it's continuous and it's constant
and they've covered every single possible arena of that ever.
So the good news is that tells us
that actually, once that mind control,
once we free our minds from that
and we rise, we do our healing work
and we rise in consciousness
and we step into our true potential,
they're done at that point.
So they have to work really hard to keep us down here
and mind control because actually otherwise,
they have no way to control us and to run the planet
the way they do and these people are parasitic.
So because they serve the dark,
they're not connected to source, to God, to the creator,
to the life force, to the light.
So see, they have to use us like movies, by the way,
are a way that they tell us what they're doing
because per universal law, they have to get our consent
and if you don't say no, it's considered implied consent.
So they let us know.
So like in the matrix,
Morpheus says to Neo that we're batteries
and that's exactly true.
So they're using us, so they mind control us
and then they use our creativity
to create this hell on earth enslaved society
that we currently live in.
So that's the good news because without that mind control
and them using us to create their world that they like,
which harms us, when we can come together as a human race,
we can co-create a heaven on earth.
So I'll start there, that this is actually very helpful.
I wanna unpack that for a little bit
because that's something Max that I have been mulling over
since your seminar is I understand they're parasitic,
they're not connected to source.
We have a greater level of light
and thereby creativity, intuitiveness, understanding
because of that source connection.
So am I understanding that they program our consciousness
with horrible movies and horrible dystopian agendas
and television and all that
to create in us a narrative, a negative fear-based narrative
and because consciousness creates.
Yes.
When we engage in that storyline
that they have spoon fetus in every direction
from the music to the entertainment
to the halftime shows that are very satanic
to the television to the fear-based commercials,
all of it, we take that in,
our consciousness then creates a scenario
with that information
and then that consciousness creates our reality.
Is that how it works?
That's exactly how it works.
Okay.
That's exactly how it works
and it's a scientific formula.
So if you know anything about the Jesuits or Mengele,
these people, they actually worked together
and one of the things that they discovered
is that the sexual abuse of a child prior to the age of five
is the best way to create a future mind-controlled slave
because of the dissociation and the fragmentation
that that trauma creates in the psyche.
And then when a person they're in shock
and the trauma is overwhelming,
the psyche's defense is to split to repress that
but then there's a blank slate there.
So that's what they do.
They program then, so that applies to the collective too.
You see some shocking imagery on TV
or they, for example, blow up the Twin Towers
and that shocks people
and then it's easy to insert the programming
which they wanna insert.
So it's called trauma-based mind control
but the sexual abuse of children
is a particularly good way
and then it becomes generational as well.
So every generation in a generational family
of sexual abuse becomes more compliant, more pliable,
more passive, more easily manipulated
than the generation even before.
So that's something that they start with
right from birth in satanic ritual abuse.
In fact, the Mengele, what he brought to the table
was that you can start abusing a child even in utero.
So this is something that he taught
so you can say horrible things to the fetus,
to the woman's pregnant belly,
you can play loud discordant music,
you can punch in a certain way
that won't kill the fetus,
you can insert things into the amniotic sack.
And so the Jesuits, for example,
they will torture, they will do this kind of torture
and then when the infant is born,
which by the way they actually use,
they take embryos and they genetically manipulate them
to make these more enhanced babies,
more intelligent, more physical prowess, et cetera.
And then when the babies, so they implant them
in these four women that they have captive
that then carry the baby to term
and then they will in a very ritualistic and horrible way
murder that mother in front of the newborn infant,
that's the first trauma, right?
And then they will sexually abuse that infant
right from babyhood, they'll mix in abuse with love,
abuse with love, right?
And so that's a trauma bond that develops
but in any case, this is their perfected formula
and so these children that are raised in this way
and a lot of, even a lot of people that you see
on the world stage would have been done to
in this way to groom them for their future role.
So then they program these children to have different altars.
So that's how they get assassins or super soldiers
or the, and they have dames for the programming
like beta programming is the sex kitten programming.
I was put through that.
So basically they teach little tiny children
how to be sexualized and sexually service adults
because the pedophiles don't want a sniveling,
screaming child to rape.
They want one that seems to act like they like it.
So the, and then these honeypots are used for blackmail.
They put them with certain important people
and get, they get video or photographs.
These kind of lone wolf assassinations
that we've heard about like the JFK or the Reagan
or whatever, these are MKUltra people
who have been done to in the way I've just described
and then programmed to do this specific task.
So everyone has a handler.
That's a person that's responsible for overseeing them.
And then whenever it's their time to do said task,
they get a certain trigger word, a code,
a sentence, something that then throws them into that altar
that they've been programmed and they go
and they execute that task, right?
So, let me-
Let me-
I want to unpack that a little.
Yeah, let me break into that
because this is new information for a lot of people
and it seems almost difficult
to understand how it functions.
So what you're saying is that
when you abuse a child in a significant way,
sexual abuse, torture, when they're under five,
what you're literally doing
because that brain is still forming
is you're breaking the natural formation growth
and maturity of that child.
And then they start compartmentalizing the torture
and putting it in a box
and then they get the training and that goes in a box
and then they get the love and that goes in the box.
And none of it makes any,
what would be natural human sense.
So I would imagine that what's left of that child
is this fragmented belief system
that has nothing to grasp onto.
Yeah, and the strongest of the children
that survive that,
humans can really,
we actually have natural abilities like telepathy
and self-healing of our bodies and telekinesis
and all this stuff.
So any ability can be trained into a child
with enough torture.
And that's what the cult does.
So they're players in strategic global positions.
There's no accident.
They control it thoroughly and completely.
So you could even say that a lot,
that people up in the hierarchy of control
are themselves mind controlled.
Yeah.
And then we are all mind controlled as well.
And so I was telling you about this earlier,
but I think it's worth mentioning.
So satanic ritual abuse is very ancient.
It's an ancient cult.
It used to, you know,
people used to bring their children
and sacrifice them to Molok.
And then this child sacrifice cult
went literally actually under the ground.
So it still occurs today,
but it's just more hidden.
So that you could say that SRA was the first kind of
scientific, so to speak, form of mind control.
But then psychiatry came into the picture.
So in 1921, the Tavistock Institute came into being
and they were purportedly helping war veterans
from World War I with Shell Shop, which is trauma.
But actually that was BS.
They weren't helping anything.
They were studying human behavior on a bigger scale,
like what happens when we traumatize these men,
we send them in and we force them to kill other humans.
And you know, the war is very, very traumatizing.
And so they began to study this.
And then at the time of World War II,
they had really, and they brought in psychiatry.
So then they began to really perfect
this model of mind control.
And if you look at their mission statement
in around 1945, right after World War II,
they said in it that they were going to use future shock
to mold people into easily accepting
a one world government, new world order.
So this has been in the works
from just the Tavistock Institute since the mid-40s, okay?
So this is not some new thing.
So they brought psychiatry in.
And in terms of psychiatry, Edward Burr,
people should research Edward Bernays.
He was Freud's nephew.
He's known as the father of propaganda.
And he began with the Tavistock Institute
to institute advertising,
which is another form of mind control, right?
And then even Freud in the late 1800s,
I think it was 1896,
he put out a paper called The Ideology of Hysteria.
Trauma, they called it Hysteria.
And they thought that women had it because they had a uterus.
And he had put out originally a paper saying,
I know, saying that,
oh, because he began to talk to women
and hear their stories.
And he said, oh, I've discovered something.
It's actually sexual abuse that's creating this trauma.
But that was not well received.
So he then recanted and did a huge disservice
by putting out the Edipal theory where he said,
oh, basically, oh, my bad,
actually children want to have sex with their parents.
They fantasize about it.
So that's again a mind control program.
And then add in Kinsey, who was a Satanist,
and they're programming the population to believe
that children are sexual since birth and all this
because they always planned,
and I heard this as a child,
they always planned at some point, which is now,
to normalize pedophilia,
to have Luciferianism as the one world religion,
which is the role of the Vatican, okay?
And then to basically have a global government
eliminate all nations.
And we see this happening today.
But this has been in execution for a long time.
And it involves, and now today with technology
added to the psychiatry part of it,
it's even more enhanced.
The mind control is even more enhanced.
So when these smartphones came out,
they're a little perfect mind control tool
that now everybody has.
And so this is kind of the evolution of it.
And there is technology today
where they can pulse thoughts and emotions into people.
And they've experimented on this massively.
So there's a whole another big pot of mind control techniques,
which like you said, you heard in my seminar,
which I can explain and go into,
but I thought, let me just leave that part there.
Yeah.
What I'd like to do now is talk about
how these techniques that were developed
have been utilized to mind control entire population.
So we're not just talking about breaking a child
or programming one child.
What they have done is that they have
perfected these techniques
and are now programming entire populations,
if not the entire planet.
So there's lots of recent events
that those of us watching are very clear on
because we live through it.
For me, the JFK assassination,
then the next big one,
probably Martin Luther King or the Robert Kennedy,
then of course, 9-11,
huge Psyop, I completely bought into the whole thing.
And then of course, most recently COVID,
that whole thing was completely planned
years, if not decades in advance.
And then in my mind, most recently,
the whole Charlie Kirk thing, total Psyop.
And Max, when I was, I have watched that,
I watched that unfold a little bit,
but I ended up backing away from it
because I thought everything around that
from every angle is a Psyop.
And I didn't wanna get sucked into it,
but there were times when I would see
a little bit of information,
I thought, I wish Max was here
because she could unpack that for me
and tell me exactly what it was
because you're able to see it
because you were behind the scenes,
you saw how they put these pieces together.
So what I'd like to do now
is pick one of those events,
whether it's 9-Eleven or COVID
or the Charlie Kirk thing,
and let's unpack that from your perspective
so that we can see how it's a 360 fabrication
that then we get sold.
Which one do you think is the most easy to work with?
Let's pick Charlie Kirk one just
because it's most recent and obviously,
but let me explain the playbook foundation
for which all of these are based.
It's called the Hegelian dialectic,
so people can go research that.
It's essentially problem reaction solution.
So they create, the cult creates the problems
like a supposed terrorist attacks,
airplanes flying into the Twin Towers.
That was a hologram show.
There were no airplanes.
It was blown up from the inside deliberately.
So that's the problem.
Then they anticipate the human reaction
and stoke fear with all the media
and repetition and repetition, ah, you know,
and it's terrorism, it's terrorism.
So they have a boogeyman.
And then they come in with the solution
which was their intended agenda all along, okay?
Which in the case of 9-Eleven,
which by the way is a satanic ritual sacrifice holiday,
the agenda was to pass the Patriot Act
to be able to go into these countries
where they wanted to do regime change
and profit off all kinds of things.
And the Patriot Act actually made it legal
to harvest our data, spy on us
and designated all American citizens as enemy combatants.
So now we can be thrown in the hole, no questions asked.
Now most people didn't know what was in the Patriot Act,
didn't know anything about it.
They were in their limbic and brainstem.
So this is what these people, they know the nervous system.
So the fear, the big terror attack puts everyone in shock.
When you're in shock, the prefrontal cortex,
the thinking part of your brain shuts down
and only the limbic and brainstem are operant.
And because in a real situation of survival,
thinking is too costly, it takes too long.
So the brain gets ready to react
and it does fight or flight, right?
So they know this about the human brain,
so they're constantly pumping fear.
So they create this terror attack,
they anticipate the fear,
and then they slide in with the solution.
Everyone thinks, oh, it's for our safety.
That's when the TSA was created, okay?
You and I both remember when we could travel
and no such thing existed, right?
And then the TSA in and of itself
creates a mind control idea that it's normal
to be scanned, asked for things, poked and prodded.
Then when COVID came, people were more amenable
to standing here and going in the line this way
and all these insane rules.
So they usually have more than one agenda.
And so with 9-11, that's an example
that I'm using of the Hegelian dialectic.
Problem, reaction, solution.
So let's go to the Charlie Kirk thing.
So okay, so politics we have to understand
is also government itself means,
if you take the word apart in Latin,
it means control of the mind.
So the whole government is theater, it's a sham.
It's another part of the mind control system
which has taught us that we must obey authority
and that this entity called government
gets to tell us what to do,
gets to take part of our income,
gets to regulate us and all this.
So politics is theater.
So we have in this binary choice that we're presented
is itself a form of mind control.
You have either the Democrat or the Republican party.
I call it blue donkey productions
or red elephant productions.
Starring in recent time Joe Biden versus Donald Trump, okay?
So this also leads to another program that they love,
which is divide and conquer.
So they mind control us into fighting each other
and thinking that each other is the bad guy and the enemy
because of course that serves them quite well.
I want to break in real here for a minute here
because we are so programmed and conditioned
in the United States to look up to our leaders.
It can be very difficult for someone
who has a great moral compass,
does the right thing, takes care of their family,
goes to work.
It can be very difficult for them to understand
that we're being played continually
by this whole government thing.
Can you share with us
and you don't have to give name names
and that sort of thing,
but you know this is a play
because you were in these ritual ceremonies
as a child with members of government.
So can you give us a little background of,
you saw behind the curtain?
Yes, people who are going to be presidents,
there's no such thing as us voting and electing them.
That's a sham too.
It's to make us feel that we have chosen.
If you think about it,
even the choices we have are selected for us,
but people who they're gonna put in the office
is planned way ahead of time.
And so there's some that I have seen in the rituals
and I'll name Bush Sr.
As one of the most evil,
horrifically cruel human beings
that I've ever experienced
and I've experienced a lot of them.
So all of these people,
I would name Hillary Clinton.
She is horrific.
She is a, they're both pedophiles,
but honestly, if you're going to be
in any presidential capacity,
you're going to have had to go through rituals
where you rape and sacrifice a child
to even be able to be in that office.
So there's no good one.
There's no good one.
It's all fake.
It's all theater.
And so, you know, with,
the thing is with Biden,
so the people who are on the left
who are progressive and all that,
they're good people.
They went into that way of thinking and being
because they're just like you said,
they're good people.
They care about the earth.
They care about children.
They care about things,
but it's been socially engineered
to become very communist
and in fact, very satanic
and they've inserted the pedophile agenda
within the whole trans rights agenda
to groom that forward.
So we had him in office
and then a whole swath of people
supported this character,
this actor, I'm going to call it.
On the other side, on the right,
there were people who had woken up
to certain things.
They understood about child trafficking.
They understood about the word deep state
began to be thrown around.
I was surprised.
I thought, oh, wow,
that's coming out in the common vernacular.
So what the cult is going to do
is when something slips out of their control,
they take it and they twisted around to control it again.
So what they did is they framed the left
as the deep state and the right
as the savior of the deep state
starring Donald Trump,
who's going to ride in on his white horse
and banquish the swamp and save everyone.
And he's playing five deep chess.
That's why he hasn't done anything he said.
So they took these awake people
and they saw up them into a savior program.
And Q was a great example of that.
So Q was saying all these things that were true
because the best mind control formula is truth
mixed in with lies and inversion.
So I remember someone arguing with me and saying,
no, Q is real.
It's good because otherwise
they wouldn't say all these true things.
And I said, yes, they would
because they're trying to capture those people
that already know those things.
And he said, yeah, but then it'll wake up everybody else.
And I said, no, it won't.
People who are deeply mind control
will reject the truth when you present it to them.
They will just say, oh, that's a conspiracy theory.
So that's safe.
So this was targeted at the ones
who had awakened to a certain level
and what's the twist?
Trust the plan.
In other words, park yourself, do nothing.
And then they enlist all these people
who know there's a deep state,
know there's child trafficking, know some of this stuff.
And then they're supposed to follow their savior
who's gonna actually clean up the deep state
who's part of the deep state just like the other guy was.
So that's the mind control Psyop.
And it keeps people captive and angry at each other.
So enter Charlie Kirk.
So basically I did a little research
when it happened.
Charlie Kirk seemed like a nice conservative guy
who would go to college campuses and talk about things.
But when I did a little digging,
turning points was affiliated with the CIA.
And I know the CIA goes to college campuses and recruits.
So maybe that was his role.
So in classic this operative world, what they would,
so then I began to realize,
okay, he's probably an operative
and his wife is also an operative.
And what they do,
this is so staged that they will take people
and marry them, like bring them together.
Okay, you're gonna marry this person
and then you're gonna be this cute conservative couple
and you'll have a couple of kids
and then they go, so they're basically CIA operatives.
So this thing was this all staged
and they have holographic technology
that's very, very good.
I'll leave it at that.
So he was supposedly shot in the neck and killed
so that now they want civil war in America.
They want to get the left and the right
to hate each other and fight each other.
So that was a sigh up to further that
and also a distraction for everything else that's going on
and all the failures of Trump the savior,
that he's not doing.
So that's classic.
So this guy is somewhere else living his life.
I mean, he's not dead.
This is what they do all the time.
So that was that the interesting thing to me
is that the matrix is breaking down
because right away people were putting out videos
of the shot was on this side.
The shot, his ring was here, his ring was here
and then somebody brought out that there was a movie
where the star of the movie was named
that the star character was Charlie Kirkland
who had been shot on that same day
through the neck at a political event.
Okay, so here's my question about that.
And I heard about that and I thought about you.
I understand that ritual is very important to...
What are we gonna call them?
The Satanist, the deep state, whatever.
Why was it important that that movie came out
and then they rewrote the script
and did it live in public?
Why is that important to their little process?
Well, because again, they have to tell us,
it's revelation of the method.
They have to tell us what they're going to do.
And then they can say, karmically for universal law,
oh, well they knew.
I mean, it's not our fault they fall for it
and think it's true or real.
So they're telling you what they're gonna do ahead of time.
Apparently the Simpsons, I don't watch that stuff,
but apparently the Simpsons has predicted all kinds of things.
Well, they're planned ahead of time.
They're not, so yeah, I guess they are predicting it
in the sense that it's gonna be rolled out
at some point in the future, but they're letting us know
and they let us know through all kinds of movies.
If you go to the UN website
and you read like agenda 2030,
I mean, it's all spelled out there what they wanna do.
It's out there.
All the information has always been out there,
but we're so mind controlled.
We don't see it or we think it's fiction.
And there's another element, which is that they mock us, okay?
They think it's hilarious.
They laugh.
If you've watched, like I've seen clips of talk shows,
like Ellen DeGeneres or Obama or Hillary on a talk show,
laughing and joking, like, oh yeah,
we've had all these pizza parties.
We love pizza.
Well, pizza is code for pedophiling little girls.
Hot dog is little boys.
So they're openly, and they have their symbols everywhere,
all kind, you know, the one eye,
all of it is in your face and out there.
And they communicate this way with each other.
So it's a symbol communicate.
I'm a pedophile, you're a pedophile,
but they also like to mock us.
They think it's pretty funny.
And so I'll give you an example of a mockery.
Black lives matter.
Now, the average good liberal progressive will think
that it means people of colors lives matter,
which of course they do.
Yeah, I agree with that.
But that statement is not talking about people of color.
The cult could care less about any people.
That is the black nobility lives matter.
The black sun, which is one of their cult factions.
That's what they're talking about.
And so it's mockery right there.
And then every time someone repeats black lives matter,
that adds energy to that group.
Yes, it's creating, it's casting a spell.
It's the same when they created the fake pandemic
and they called it COVID.
That stands for certificate of vaccination ID,
because it was a coronavirus.
Where did that name come from?
They wanted everyone repeating COVID, COVID, COVID
because that is spell, it creates a spell.
It's a frequency, the repetition helps bring it
into existence and their desire
was to create vaccine passports.
So if everybody's repeating that over and over,
that helps it bring it into actual manifestation
in the material plane better.
And so unwittingly people were trying, were assisting them.
It didn't work, but that would be, for example,
another way that that's done.
Yeah, I do think that initially,
or at least for what I saw,
I was living in California at the time of COVID,
it, people really fell hard for that one.
For whatever reason, I didn't.
I saw it for what it was from the get go.
And I remember looking out the window thinking,
there it is, there it is.
People fell hard for that,
but I do feel like because they pushed it too far,
and there are too many people
who've had tremendous health issues,
as well as death from the shots,
which was intentional,
that that started waking people up.
And then what I saw,
and I was actually kind of giggling in a way,
when the Charlie Kirk Psyop was rolled out,
they can't get away with it like they used to,
because citizen journalists were all over that.
There were people doing sound analysis of the bullet.
There were people getting every single video
and researching every single frame.
So it was heartening to me
because all of a sudden,
it wasn't this mass compliance
of whoever is on the television telling you,
you've got to be afraid.
A lot of people aren't falling for it anymore.
And I was particularly encouraged
that so many people have said there's something
about his wife that just feels really, really off,
which tells me that even if we can't point
to what the game is,
people's intuition is so much more acute or aware now
because it just feels weird.
And that to me is encouraging.
It's very encouraging.
And I was talking about the Tavistock Institute earlier
and what followed from that is the CIA's MKUltra experiments
and the creation of, well, Operation Mockingbird,
which is the creation of the media, okay?
And that was created to mind control us.
Every reporters, TV anchors, talking heads,
all of them were either reading a CIA script
or CIA assets themselves, okay?
Like Anderson Cooper is a good example.
He's a CIA asset.
So even the media was created to mind control,
to propagandize.
If you go research Operation Mockingbird,
you'll be stunned to see how well executed
and created it was, but see what you're saying.
And what I agree with 100% is that operation is failing
because people are now not trusting the media anymore.
They're beginning to see that it's all manipulation
and lies and mind control.
And there are statistics out there that viewership
of these mainstream media channels
is falling precipitously.
Now I will warn that the cult always has another layer
of mind control ready for when you wake up to one layer.
So the alt media is where a lot of people
who woke up to the mainstream went thinking,
oh, this is the truth.
Now they're just as controlled
and just as they're all kinds of assets in there
to feeding you some truth mixed in
with a whole lot of misinformation.
You really have to be very discerning.
You will extract truths from media stuff,
but you have to be very discerning.
And you see, once you understand mind control,
like you said, you saw COVID right from the get go.
When 9-11 happened, I was watching a football game,
I think with somebody and I said, oh God, there they go again.
And my friend was like, oh, you're such a conspiracy there.
But I knew because I've seen this crap for my whole life.
So as soon as people wake up to the playbook,
they're gonna see through all of it.
And you probably saw the machinations
behind the curtain as well.
You know, conversations or understanding
that what goes into these kinds of operations.
And to add another layer to how complete
the manipulation can be,
I have heard from another source
that the holographic abilities are so advanced
that they can literally insert a hologram
into our reality, kind of like you're inserting a bookmark.
In other words, it is seamless,
it is completely believable, and it's completely fantasy.
It's completely made up.
And then once I learned that I thought,
and you guys, once you start seeing this,
it unfolds before you like you can't believe.
And you start having these aha moments
that are all at once a little bit unsettling,
but then they feel really good
because you're seeing through the whole maze of lies.
I remember Max from the 9-11,
and of course we saw the images over and over
and over again on every news channel, on the newspaper.
That was back when I used to watch the news
and read the newspaper.
And I particularly remember people jumping from the towers
and that one where the man was upside down falling headfirst.
And I thought, I had so much compassion
and angst for that person,
that's probably not even a real person.
That's probably the hologram.
Yeah, and it's complicated
because everything is staged, so wars.
Wars are a global trauma
that inflicts that trauma-based mind control
that I described they did to me and others as individuals.
They're both sides are funded.
That doesn't mean that real people
aren't murdered in war, okay?
That doesn't mean that it doesn't destroy
people's homes and regions,
but it's still deliberately done, it's a production.
So people died during 9-11,
but that was considered good by the cult
because it's a ritual sacrifice.
And there were people on the airplanes
that they claimed hit the towers because it was holograms.
So those people would have been actually kidnapped
and taken underground and then either murdered
or used for rituals or horrible things
would have probably been done to them
and they would have never been allowed to come back
because that was part of the story, right?
So no, mine loved one died in the airplane.
Well, yeah, your loved one died,
but it wasn't because the airplane hit the twin tower.
So there's a mix of the holographic technology
and the PSYOP with the reality of carnage
that they do on the human population.
So I just wanna make sure I clarify that.
Thank you for that clarification.
And I also wanna point out that so much of this
that they're able to manipulate us with the stories
rely on two things.
The fact that we're very compassionate beings,
we're very emotional and we're very compassionate by nature.
Humans are, we wanna help, we wanna love,
we wanna nurture, we wanna,
we want people to have what they need as humans.
That's what we want.
And we're also very, very, we have low self-esteem.
In other words, the fact that they've gotten us
to pay taxes, a significant portion of the money
we work for so hard and to just hand it over
to a completely corrupt system,
if we had any sense of self-worth or self-esteem,
we would have said this is, no, no,
all of us would have said no.
And imagine if back in COVID,
if all of us would have said, I'm not doing that,
I'm not wearing a mask, I'm not doing the six-foot thing.
So much of it is predicated on our lack
of interpersonal strength, which is created
by continually tearing us, trust the experts.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Look to other people, look to the government,
we're going to save you.
It's a whole agenda where they create the low self-esteem,
where they then utilize our compassion
and our emotional makeup to then manipulate us.
It's just all such a game.
And I have to give them credit.
They've been, I mean, it's been very successful
for a long time.
I do feel like it's falling apart now.
Don't you agree?
Yeah, and that's the weaponization of love.
They consider love a weakness.
It's actually a strength, but they don't know it
because they don't have that capacity.
These people end at ego.
So there's a service to self-path,
which ends at, which doesn't reach full evolution
of the being or enlightenment.
And then there's a service to others path, which does.
And so these creatures have taken the service to self-path
and they have cut off that,
I think the soul comes, is connected through the heart.
So they don't have that, but they do know that we do.
And of course they weaponize that.
That's how they get us to comply
with ridiculous things, you know?
Like, and you're right, it all though
is based on our consent and compliance,
because if people had known,
had understood what a sigh up is
and what was really going on during this COVID time,
if people had all said, I'm not wearing a mask,
I'm not shutting down my business,
nothing would have happened.
Mia, it could have been stopped in its tracks
if everybody just said, yeah, I'm not doing that.
Yes.
That's because we actually have the power
to change this world.
We're being convinced we don't
and that one of the biggest sigh ups,
mind control sigh ups is this belief in authority.
Yeah.
And if you want to kind of research that,
go look at the 1965 Milgram experiment.
Have you heard of that one?
Oh yeah, that's, and going out and share it
with the viewers because some people
might not have heard of it.
I mean, basically in a nutshell,
they recruited volunteers and the volunteers
thought that they were helping someone
sitting behind a panel to learn a task.
And they were told that it was an experiment
to see if negative reinforcement would help them learn.
So if they got something wrong,
they had a little dial of shock,
they would give them a mild electric shock.
The dial went to danger and death.
So it was to see compliance with authority.
So the person on the other side was part of,
in on the gig and would get the answer wrong deliberately.
And the person in a white coat who was the authority figure
would tell the volunteer, okay, turn up the dial,
turn up the dial.
And people would say, yeah, but it says danger here
and the authority doesn't matter, you turn it up.
And most people were willing to turn the dial to death.
And then the person on the other side would act
like the shock was like, you know,
like they were foaming at the mouth and whatever.
And people were still willing to shock this person
to the point of death because an authority figure
in a white coat told them,
that's a very, very sad experiment.
That's what it showed.
Yeah, yeah.
And let's talk about the whole white coat syndrome
because I think particularly here in the US,
so much of the population is completely mind controlled
by what I call, you know, the medical mafia,
which was Big Pharma and the Rockefeller Medical System,
and Max, I think you'll agree,
was specifically designed to keep us sick.
Yes.
And then extract as much money as possible
on the way to our death.
Yes, if it's still out there and available,
I could send it to you because I have a copy of it.
There's something called the secret covenant,
in which they describe their completely,
disgustingly evil agenda to create the Rockefeller
Western Medical System and how they're gonna use
these things to accelerate our aging and soften our minds
and make us sick.
And the whole thing was set up to sicken us
so that they could profit off managing that sickness,
but of course never curing it.
And also as a side bonus, reduce our lifespan,
which if you look today,
our lifespan has actually been reduced
from several decades ago.
So that entire system was created to sicken us
and it's a form of mind control
because a weak body will have a not properly working
weak mind.
And so it's disgusting,
but that's the whole basis of that system
and Rockefeller bought off Congress,
created medical schools, gave a lot of money
and made natural medicine, anything herbal,
anything energetic, old wives tales and not true.
And people are so brainwashed,
they still think this today, right?
The inverse is actually true.
That's real medicine and the modern medical model
is what's BS, doctors are.
And so Rockefeller would fund medical schools
if they taught what he told them to teach.
So doctors go in well-intended and well-meaning,
want to be healers and help people,
but the way they're trained and taught,
I mean, there's some good things,
but mostly they're manipulated into a model
that is not correct.
Pharmaceuticals and vaccines
are probably the most toxic things
you could put into your body.
Yes.
And yet we have been so thoroughly mind-controlled,
most of the population to think
that that's the only way you can survive.
It's crazy.
It's interesting is that they used the same playbook
when they were transitioning from
what I call more holistic medical practices
to the Rockefeller system,
calling people quacks, discrediting them,
mocking them, belittling them
and making it uncomfortable for you
to believe something other than the narrative
that they were selling you.
They used that same playbook for COVID.
They mocked and belittled and drugged through the mud
and took away licenses of the doctors
that were actually trying to help people.
While they celebrated and gave bonuses
to the doctors who were literally killing people
in the hospitals with the established protocol
that came down from Fauci at all.
So think about that, folks.
We literally watched doctors like Mary Bowden
who was saving people have her license revoked
while doctors who were killing people on ventilators
and remdesivir given bonuses.
And we stood by and watched that.
Yeah.
It's a mind-control technique called shoot the hostage.
So basically any doctor who stood up
and said, this is not right, this is not true
was mocked, deplatformed, sometimes gotten rid of
definitely unlicensed.
So then other doctors who see that
are gonna go, uh-oh, I better shut my mouth
because otherwise that's gonna happen to me.
And also licensing is part of the beast,
what I call the beast system.
It exists so that they can control you.
And so whether you're a doctor or a psychologist
or whatever, the fact that you have to have a license
means then that you have to obey their regulations
and requirements and you cannot be a free thinker
and you cannot disagree with the essentially
mind-control propaganda that they're teaching you
and forcing you to subject your clients or patients to.
Yeah.
And I think that that, you know, when we look at
what's happened to the medical profession,
there's really been a push to get doctors
out of private practice and into hospitals
so that they then can be controlled.
Because it, you know, the first thing you do
when you're a doctor and you get to first position
is you go buy a big house and a whole bunch of cars
and you got a fancy wife you got to pay for and all of this.
So they're indentured servants.
Literally, they have a huge more, you know,
they have a huge student debt
and then they buy all this stuff, you know,
the stuff you get, I'm a doctor
and you got the doctor's wife.
And so they're beholden to a system
that not only taught them the wrong information
but then they converted it into a religion.
Right.
That's the new religion is scientism.
That was the new COVID era religion.
So now don't argue with science.
You know, there was nothing scientific about any of that.
And, you know, actually I have a friend who's an MD
and she, well, she was fired
because she refused to take the job.
And, but when she was still working,
she had a case of someone who came in
and to the ER and had died of a heart attack
and she had treated this patient.
And then the nurse brought her the thing to sign
and the diagnosis, the reason of death was COVID.
And she said, no, that's wrong.
It was a heart attack.
And the nurse said, I know,
but they're telling us to put this as the reason of death.
And she's like, what?
So she went to the hospital director
and said, what's going on?
And the guy told her, well,
we get $60,000 per COVID death diagnosis.
So we're diagnosing every death.
There was even a gunshot wound death
that was diagnosed as COVID.
And then they inflate those numbers.
And then that's part of the propaganda
to convince people that this boogeyman virus
is killing us all.
But hospitals were paid a lot of money to lie.
And then paid a lot of money to put people
like you said on ventilators,
which would result in them dying.
So it was really disgusting scam,
but it also normalized a medical police state.
Yeah, dual purpose, right there, dual purpose.
So let, you know, and when I look at that,
when I look at that whole COVID nonsense,
I see a population with no inner rudder,
with no sense of self,
with no inner strength and ability to discern.
I see a population who just does what they're told
out of fear and out of low self-esteem
and just a built in compliance
because they feel so powerless,
which tells me the way out
is not necessarily to battle the system,
which I think is a waste of time
and a waste of consciousness.
It's what you did, it's the inner work.
It's the developing a sense of self,
developing a strong moral compass,
developing the strength to say no,
when everybody around you is saying take the jab
or, you know, stand in line
or walk down this aisle with the arrows,
which to me is like,
can you even believe that people
followed those arrows in the grocery stores?
I deliberately went the wrong way because-
I did too, I got kicked out of so many stores during COVID.
But it sees all acts of courage, Kimberly.
So for example, I've been traveling a lot
and in America, now when you go to the TSA
to the front of the line before you go in,
they say stand here
and there's like two little shoe marks
in front of the camera.
So I of course never stand there.
I hand them my passport
and I say, this is voluntary, isn't it?
And it is.
So then they say, oh yeah, okay, no problem.
And one guy asked me like,
why don't you wanna have your picture taken?
And I said, well, you have my face
and you have my picture on my passport.
Why would you need to take a photograph of me?
And he thought about it
and he didn't really have an answer.
You know, I wasn't gonna school him
on the real reason why,
because that would have taken too long.
But I, it's a small act of courage
because every other person complies,
stands there and has their photograph taken.
I don't even think they think about it.
I never have, I don't get my photograph taken.
I don't go through that.
I get my JJ karate chopped every time I go fly, you know.
It's, I don't think most people even think
about the fact that they can say no.
Yeah.
And it's though, but it's those little things
saying no, you know, God,
I wish more people had said no during COVID, you know,
that would have ended things much sooner.
You know, pay cash when you can.
Say no to anything like that,
that's infringing on your freedom.
I mean, we can, if all of us start doing that,
that's what's gonna change things.
Cause we actually do have that power,
but we don't know it, but you are right.
There's a large swath of the population
that people call them zombies or normies or sheep.
And I don't want, I don't like to be pejorative towards anyone,
but it does seem like there's a large swath of people
who are completely hive minded and obedient
to everything they're told to do.
And they're no longer critically thinking.
And that's a problem because again,
the way we get out of this situation
is when enough of us say no.
Yeah, exactly.
And I think that, you know, I get frustrated as well
and I think it's the, you know,
the small minded human part of me,
when I look back at COVID,
and I think if everyone would have just said no,
we would have eliminated all the stuff
that all of us got drug through,
you know, people losing their jobs,
people lining up for endless boosters,
people not being able to,
I mean, imagine all that we could have eliminated
if everybody would just say, yeah, yeah,
I'm not gonna do that.
I would want a gift that could have been.
But the fact is, is that I think or what I think it is,
is most people just don't want the trouble.
They just, they just wanna kind of live
in their own little, you know, place
and not have to battle and not have to stand up.
They just don't want any trouble.
They don't trust themselves enough
or value themselves enough to stand up and say,
I don't think that's good for me.
I'm not gonna do that.
The problem with that attitude is that
it allows these, this evil system to flourish
and to continue.
And it's not gonna make you safe to comply
because the ultimate agenda,
you're not gonna like it once you're in a 15-minute city
and it's digital everything
and you're in a social credit system
and you can't say anything that contradicts the narrative
or you can't buy food.
I mean, or you're forced to vaccinate yourself
with all kinds of stuff, you know,
or they take your children just because
you won't agree to let them change gender
or whatever it is.
Like the world, they're heading towards
and a dystopian transhuman enslavement agenda
that's not going to be nice for anyone.
So the people that wanna lay low
and feel like it's safer to comply
are actually helping this future come into being.
Yeah, yeah.
It's that compliance that allows it to move forward
which brings us to, you know, as a psychologist
and with all your training and all your background
and all your experience,
can you give us three steps,
three or four that will help all of us?
And I think the people watching are probably
a little bit more aware
and are probably a little bit more comfortable saying,
yeah, I'm not gonna do that.
But it starts with us, you guys that are watching.
And when we model healthy self-esteem
and healthy boundaries and healthy expectations
from our fellow man, when we model that,
we then give others a framework
to start stepping into their own power.
So Max, where would someone start
in maybe three steps that we could, you know,
just all start trying to internalize
to create a different narrative?
I mean, one kind of basic thing is
take care of your physical vessel
because it's the avatar it's holding your soul
and your consciousness.
So this is another form of mind control.
So it just, we're so poisoned, you know,
they can trail us, they flirtate the water,
they give us this crap food.
It isn't easy, but find a way to start to eat healthy food.
If you, you know, the best thing would be to grow your own.
I remember once talking to Penny and her saying that
if you plant something, put the seed in your mouth
and then plant it because then it kind of grows
to have the nutrients that you particularly need, right?
So that's also a way to shift out of the matrix
because they've controlled the food supplies
corporately controlled.
So grow your own, do community gardens,
you can grow food in a pot on a balcony.
Start to go to farmers market, support farms,
eat healthy food, get enough sleep.
In America, we have this culture
that is actually so John Wayne and cool
to work 18 hours a day and not sleep.
No, that's not cool, okay?
Sleep deprivation is a form of torture for a reason.
Get enough sleep, okay?
Go to bed at the same time, get up at the same time
and move your body.
Do something, yoga, dance, you know, X walk,
whatever it is, take care of that vessel is going to be,
it sounds very simplistic, but it's a very profound step
and there's a reason why they've attacked the vessel
so ferociously because that is very significant
and important.
Then I say, and this is what I've done,
become very aware of your thinking,
of your behavioral patterns, your mental programs,
you know, your emotion, like what triggers you?
So I think a really good way is to everyday journal
for a bit, it helps the hemispheres
of the brain work together
and so become your own observer.
So do you have certain patterns?
Do you tend to assume that the negative immediately,
like, oh, the stores close, oh, I knew it,
it's always, what are you saying to yourself?
Okay, because words are frequencies, they're spells
and that's why it's, you know, television
and all these things are pumping all this
and music has lyrics
and they're pumping all these really negative words
at us so become aware of what words you're using.
What do you believe?
You know, because we don't even know,
we just go in the world and do this and that
and we're not aware of our thought process
of what's motivating us, what's driving us
and if you start to watch yourself,
you're gonna notice where you're gonna be like,
oh, crap, that's not good.
I tend to whatever the pattern is, right?
So become very, very self-observant
and then notice what triggers you
because when you're triggered,
what's happened is you've gotten activated,
something in the present moment or someone
activated something in you, a wound, a trauma
that's already pre-existing in you
or you wouldn't be triggered, that's gold.
Follow that.
When someone triggers you or something triggers you,
don't react, take a step back, sit quietly and go,
hmm, what did that activate in me?
Because if you follow the thread back,
you're gonna find some trauma,
likely from your childhood, something that happened to you
and then you can, a really important thing
is sit there and feel it.
So let's say it's shame.
Someone triggered you, you feel deep shame.
You don't need to attack the person
that gave you that feeling, that's your feeling.
You sit there and as hard as it is,
you just sit there in that shame
until it passes through you.
It will go, it will move, emotion,
they will move through, right?
So we get stuck because we block it
and then we drink and we drug
and we don't wanna feel what we have to feel it.
Find how old was I when I started feeling this?
Find that inner child in you who's holding that trauma,
let them release it, witness it, hold them,
reframe the wrong cognition.
A lot of us who have been sexually abused have shame
but you know what, you can tell that inner child,
it's not your shame.
The perpetrator is the one who should be ashamed
for what they did to you.
That's not yours to carry.
So free yourself, work, just constantly observe
all of your patterns and then correct them
and make a change.
Habits, the brain, it takes 21 days to break a habit.
Every time you're in a habit,
it's like neurologically in your brain,
it creates a pathway and becomes a rut.
So if for 21 days you don't go down that pathway,
so for me, for example, I have a sugar addiction.
So that's my addiction of choice.
So if I start eating sweets or cookies
and then it becomes impossible,
so I have to stop and I've tried that.
For 21 days, all of a sudden you don't crave it anymore
because if you haven't driven down that neurological pathway,
it disappears from your brain
and that could be with a negative self-talk
or smoking or whatever bad habit you've picked up
because any addictive habit is there
to make you not feel the traumas that you're carrying
and we're all carrying traumas.
So I would say very important to find and heal your trauma
whether you wanna go to a talk therapist,
whether you wanna do yoga,
whether you want to do EMDR,
it doesn't really matter,
just address your traumas
because that's where they hook you with the mind control.
And then I would say learning.
We learn something new every day.
Like go, go watch Kimberly's interview,
see what you can learn, read about a certain topic,
like expand your mind and go into finding out the truth
behind this completely world-staged mind control reality
because when you free your mind, wow,
like anything can happen, anything,
when you free your mind and you heal your traumas
and you are self-responsible observing yourself,
everyone says, oh, well, this tends to always happen to me.
Okay, how am I responsible for that pattern
that keeps repeating in my life?
That's the only thing you can change.
So just have a goal to evolve ourselves, I think,
and be the best version of us that we can be
because that's how the world's gonna shift.
Yeah, that was beautiful, thank you, Max.
So take care of your body, watch your thinking,
and then watch your habits as well.
Yeah.
Max, this has been so good.
It's like all I wanna say right now is will you come back?
Of course.
I wanna keep the conversation going.
This is so important.
And I do have a few calls for action
from those of you watching.
First of all, Max's, all her links
are in the description box down below.
Go and follow her on Instagram.
It's a little daily or every few day reminder
of where we're at and what we need to be aware of.
Her Instagram, all her links are down below.
And if you want to do a deeper dive,
and I can tell you it is so worth the time
in the investment, it's a tiny investment.
Watch the Mind Control seminar that Max has
on her website, unbroken.global.
It is, it took me, I think I watched it in two sections
because it's a little heavy.
It can be a little heavy when you start thinking,
oh my gosh, all of a sudden all these random concepts
start coming together and I see, oh, this is nuts.
But the good news is, is once you watch that seminar
and I'll have Max back if she's available, it frees us.
And the freedom in my mind isn't battling these people.
It's rising above them.
It's taking our frequency and rising above
because they can't touch us when we're in that God light,
when we're in that God space,
when we're in that source energy.
It almost becomes laughable,
the little pantomines that they do.
It becomes, I almost look like it
as an annoying, you know, bratty little brother at this point.
It's just, it's wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
And they're doing all these machinations
and I'm like, yeah, whatever,
I'm gonna go plant something, you know?
So when we all get to that place
where we're no longer participating in the game,
the game ends and isn't that way one?
So we can get our planet back to what it can be,
a nurturing, loving, supportive, incredible place
of human creativity that will be the envy of the universe.
You know, that everyone will think
they really pulled it off on that planet.
That's, at least that's my goal.
I think what's beautifully said,
and I couldn't agree more with everything you said,
there's no fighting the system,
there's no reforming the system,
the system needs to crumble and go.
And we need to co-create something completely different,
which is absolutely possible.
And what anything we create
is going to be a thousand times better
than what we have now.
Yeah, it's inevitable because we are at,
we are incredible creatures.
We have such a connection, we're so creative,
we're so loving, we're so compassionate.
We have a planet that's beyond extraordinarily beautiful,
so diverse, plant life, animal life.
We have such a gift that we just need to do that
a little bit of rising up, letting go of our traumas,
healing our bodies, working together,
and then start putting our love and compassion
into a system that really is going to grow and blossom from it,
not throwing it down a dark hole
that we don't need anymore.
Yeah.
Well, Max, will you come back and see us sometime?
I would be honored to come back
as many times as you want.
Yeah, I love these conversations because in my mind,
and I think that you probably will all agree,
this is at the heart of the matter.
This is why our planet isn't working.
This is why every election is a rug pull.
Every time we think things are getting better,
they're getting worse.
It's up to us.
There's no savior coming, we are it.
The person in the mirror is the savior.
So I'm excited about that.
And Max, thank you so much for taking your time
to give so generously.
I'm always so blown away with the heroic journey you're on
and you're willing to talk about really tough stuff
at a time where I'm sure you just can get a lot
of less than complimentary feedback.
So let's support Max.
Go to all her links, follow her, take that course.
I think you'll really love it on Mind Control.
All right?
Thank you, Kim.
All right, and thanks everyone for joining us.
I really, really appreciate you.
Share this with the people that you know
will be open to it.
Because if we can open up a pathway
to people seeing things differently,
it's just gonna keep our journey going
and that's what we want.
All right, thanks everyone.
We'll see you next time.
And I'm here on this channel with Penny
in just a few hours.
We're gonna talk about the looksie
and we're also gonna talk about the evolution of humanity
which I think is gonna depth tell just beautifully
with this conversation.
So tune in for that later today.
Thanks a lot.
Bye now.
Bye, Max.
Thank you.
Hang around.
Don't leave.