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With your host buddy, I don't know who you are. You're about to get chlamydia Charlie Robinson

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He's a very talented filmmaker and I love this topic

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I mean remote viewing is one of my all-time favorites and I don't I don't I

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Know every time I I every time I think I know what it's all about

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Rick writer goes and makes this movie

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So if you think you know what the the remote viewing Stanford Research Institute is about because you've watched a bunch of documentaries

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Like I have you probably do you probably have a good idea

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But he's gonna connect some dots in here in this film that a whole man

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It'll blow you away. So please enjoy my conversation with director writer Lee

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Well, it's always good to connect with writer Lee after a movie. How many is this for you now?

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How many have you directed? This is the third one that is available on Amazon Prime and

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Apple TV plus and hopefully some other streaming services as the year comes to an end here

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But yes, this is the third one and I'm very excited about it. I think they it's different topics with each one

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But somehow they

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Kind of seem interconnected in some kind of weird way. I know well you you you are sort of you've got this

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niche down for sure

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Your in every film is better than the one before and that's a that's a real

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That's a real testament to your directing skills, man. I really enjoyed this one. I'll tell you why I

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It was admittedly late to the party about the gate program. I didn't go to public school

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I didn't know anything about this. I I found out about this like a couple years ago and people are like

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Oh, did you guys all have this test where they made you listen to different tones and they pulled you out of class for things?

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I was like, no, I didn't I don't know what you're talking about

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But the people who went through it were like completely triggered like oh shit. Yeah, I remember that like it was a big like

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It like snapped them out. So and then here you come and do a film about it

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And I was like man, so that's why that's part of the reason why I was excited to watch this because I

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Did not have an understanding of that program. I understand

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Like remote viewing in SRI and I get all that and I and and and I know who Lynn Buchanan is and Pat

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Price and Ingo Swan and Russell Targ and I know who those guys are, but I had

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No idea where you were taking this. So let's talk about this. Like how did you even start?

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How do you even start on a film like this like where what's your first move?

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Do you do you start making a list of people you want to interview? Do you start? I mean, where do you where do you begin?

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Well, that makes me really happy that you didn't really know exactly where the movie was going because that

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that was kind of my

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My goal with it is to like have a be a surprise kind of at the end because I'm kind of tired of you know

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Movies like spoon feeding you the entire narrative within the exposition of the movie

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I mean this documentary is really a documentary that you got a

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Kind of set down and watch and put two and two together on your own

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You know, it doesn't it gives you all the information, but there's

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Specific things that you're going to need to remember that happened in the very beginning of the movie that carries on

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To the very end of the movie that all kinds of you know, it fits together that

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You're going to have to come to that realization on your own of exactly what's going on and that's my favorite type of

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filmmaking it's that

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Stanley Kubrick ask and I'm not comparing myself to Stanley. This is two different supper things here

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I'm making documentaries Stanley Q. Well Stanley Kubrick in the beginning of his career did make documentaries

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not a lot of people know about that but

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You know, I'm not comparing myself there. He's an actual, you know a movie filmmaker. I'm a doc document

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Documentary filmmaker, you know what I mean, but that's the type of premise of that. I really like is that

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You know, it's for the audience. It's for the audience to put these things together on their own and come to their own

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Conclusion. Yes, we give you the information

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But then you take that information and you kind of put it together on your own and that's some of my favorite parts of

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filmmaking and

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We're good. That's that's a rare thing now because

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What I'm reading is that filmmakers are having to

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Adjust their entire way of doing of making films if they're gonna be on the streaming platforms like Netflix and places like that

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Because the attention span of the average viewer is so low and the distraction levels with their phones and things like that

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They've had to spoon feed it. So I actually kind of appreciate

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That you didn't just serve it up on a silver platter for everybody

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You kind of made them work a little bit in here

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Like I had an advantage because I already knew about

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SRI right so so I kind of came to a table preloaded it but but if you had no understanding of that

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This would be you'd you'd have to go for a lap do a lap around the block after you watch this and sort of like

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Try to understand what you'd just seen here because this shouldn't be happening and it feels very like

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Like if somebody told you about this at a party you'd go you have whatever like whatever and but then the way you lay it out

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It's it's it's undeniable that this is going on man. So like

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So like where did you how'd you get?

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How'd you get Limb you cannon to agree to talk to you because I feel like that guy's super dangerous

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He knows a lot of shit and and they probably know he knows a lot of shit

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And so like eyes are on him like he was cool talking to you about this stuff

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He was really cool talking with me about it, but I really had to pry on him hard even to get the

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The information that I got that's inside of the movie like I really had like

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Because you're not hearing really me ask the questions, you know what I mean?

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It's just the

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Interview part that you're getting from the person that I'm talking to but I'm there in person

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You know what I mean? I'm there behind the camera. I'm there with him and I'm asking these questions

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And I really had to pry on him hard because he really didn't have

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the

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The top security clearance of out of anybody at that time that he was in the military out of anybody in

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The world inside of the United States and that's what he said, right?

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You did he have it was he like magic like magic level clear like majestic level clearance

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I mean like he the way he made it sound there was there was nobody like really

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above them

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Yeah, that is the that's the thing is that you know and he makes that joke of you know

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Who has the top is the the most highest security clearance out of anybody?

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It's great man

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Shit, you know I would listen to that guy talk for hours man. He was he was deeply fascinating

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I bet the stuff that's going on in his head, but again like that

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The stuff going on in his head makes him very valuable and potentially dangerous

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So he didn't he didn't give up, you know, he didn't give up everything

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But I think it's worth for those curious to know more about what a guy like this with that high clearance saw

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You know his his words carry a lot more weight than

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Somebody like me, right? I'm just speculating about a story. I read or something. I heard but a guy like that who knows how to

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Really remote view and saw things that maybe he isn't allowed to see like

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What a fascinating fellow

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Yeah, it's really fascinating and and the things that he's put together and you know, and he's he's right

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I mean and it doesn't even a lot of the stuff that he was involved with like a lot of black ops things like very top-secret

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Missions and then we get into that a little bit later with like Walter Bosley and toward the end of the documentary where he's talking about well

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You know, you could be working for a freaking donut shop and not even know that that's a FBI or CIA

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Undercover operation has been running for 20 years. You know what I mean? So it's like, you know

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Those types of operations really do exist and they have been existing. I mean, I'm sure you're aware that I

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Think it was a couple of years ago

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that they were saying that a lot of the center aisle kiosk and malls or

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Massad front agents spy operations

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Do you remember that when they were seeing that the oh, oh, oh, I could I could understand that

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Let me clean your shoes. Let me clean your shoes. Yeah, I get your shoes very white very white come here buddy buddy buddy

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Yeah, yeah, I know those guys. Yeah, they're working from a solid fuck

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I'm not surprised those bastards they get your shoes clean for sure

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But they probably steal all your data off your cell phone while they're doing it

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Yeah, that's the thing and I think that's also what the flock cameras are also doing

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I think it's taken a lot of the data off of your devices immediately as soon as you go by it's some kind of

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Bluetooth

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technology that's just

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Snatching all the data off of your phone and yeah, that's when you go past it. Yeah, I mean, we're in we're in hell

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I mean and and these guys

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You know, I can't help but think that these guys are part of that too because when I hear Stanford Research Institute

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And I know who came out of who's coming out of Stanford

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Peter teal and that group that that's moving into the technology front in Silicon Valley

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I mean, where's that that line gets very blurry between

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Silicon Valley and

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DARPA in QTEL

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You know military and you know like SRI what is SRI? I mean what what is it technically?

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It's like a non-governmental organization is a research lab

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I mean what's it does it have a designation? Is it still operational these days? I?

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Believe it is still operational. It's in Palo Alto. It's not too far from me

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I've actually been to Palo Alto a couple of times, but it's basically a government contractor

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We're and we know

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You know

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Everyone kind of knows what government contractors are they're just a front for the intelligence in the military industrial complex for them to

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Give research and data to them so that none of it can ever be foy it

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You know, this is where a lot of people think that the UFO stuff goes as to private government contractors because they have no

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Responsibility to the American public at all so it can just be it's it's like a

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Blockade between the government and the people that things can just be shuffled off onto them

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And then no one will ever find out about it because it's it's from a private corporation

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It's kind of like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and you know skunkworks and all these different things are all government

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Contractors private government contractors that don't have any obligation to the American public

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Yeah, and that's where that technology gets hidden and that's where this this these skills get developed

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Right, I mean if you if you come across remote viewing right you discovered that there's

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There's a real science behind that

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you

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You know you you immediately realize that you're sitting on one of the most powerful technologies

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known to man right and like

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You that instantly becomes dangerous that you know how to do that, right? So it almost has to be

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quasi military in nature

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I mean I well, I guess some of these guys are now kind of doing it on a retail level

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They were doing it like with crypto back in the days

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But you're still doing it with crypto today. There's several people that you know, well the stock market

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there was actually a part in the movie that I

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Had to leave on the cutting room floor, which was Dell graph

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He was the one that created the he was operations manager for the Stargate remote viewing unit

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Which went through many different name changes and iterations since 1978 and ended up on the Stargate in the early 90s

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And that was switched by Dale graph. He's the one that created that name Stargate

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See that there's three different programs that were really discussed within the movie

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Which is the government remote viewing unit the DIA army intelligence remote viewing unit the Stargate

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Program, which was a spying on foreign assets and foreign

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things that were going on during the Cold War and

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after

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Up until 1999 whenever the CIA was supposed to get it back and then they shut it down

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Which then I believe that another program opened that was more

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nefarious that had to do with

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mental influence and

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Possibly remote assassination

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Which we will get into here, but then we also cover the Monroe Institute Gateway

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Project the Gateway experience what you can still go and do at the Monroe Institute Bob Monroe passed away

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But you can still go to the Monroe Institute and have the Gateway experience, which is the hemi sink

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Technology which is a two different

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frequencies and either one of your ears to induce an out-of-body experience and then we have the gate programs

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Which is the gifted and talented education, which is what?

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millions of kids were reportedly have been through

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Since verifiably the early 60s these programs have been going on and you just mentioned DARPA in there and DARPA is

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Very very interesting because a lot of this started in 1958

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Yeah, that's when the United States launched its first satellite in the space

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called Explorer 1 in

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1958 which was just a little bit after Russia had launched their first satellite in the space called the Sputnik and

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This is when DARPA was established was 1958 NASA was also established in 1958 and

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1958 was also when the government became involved with the public school systems

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sponsored by the Rockefellers in

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1958 and

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There's also a connection here between

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Jeffrey Epstein and gasoline Maxwell and gasoline mass Maxwell's dad and the Rothschilds were also

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Instrumental in the formation of the Federal Reserve and all this stuff is really connected

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But how the Rothschilds they basically needed to take over Wall Street, so they needed to take

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They needed to send someone there to oversee the purchase of this

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corporation called McMellan Inc and

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McMellan Inc was a media company that would later be named

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Rename McGraw Hill, which is responsible for pretty much all of the elementary school books in America

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So all of the public school books that everybody was raised on and taught out of was

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by a

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Rothschild backed

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Bought company is the one that produced all these books and the person that they sent to purchase this company was Robert Maxwell

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gasoline Maxwell's dad

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Right Robert Maxwell was working for the Rothschilds

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He was like their main guy and when Maxwell died on his job because he owed a lot of money to Massad and he owed money to the Rothschild family and the

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Rothschild family through the banking cartels of England

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Connected to the black the Maxwell running all these corporate blackmail schemes throughout the world

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Which is essentially backed by a massage in England when he died Epstein and gasoline

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He was literally just introduced to Epstein like six months before he died on his yacht

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Okay, so he died and then Epstein and gasoline

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Took over his position

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And I've seen essentially yeah working for the Rothschilds and taking that franchise that East Coast New York

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Palm Beach Island

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Branch you know and take care of all that

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So then we also have the Rockefeller

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Funding the psychic and ESP research in major universities across the United States in the early 30s

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Which I talked about in the very beginning of the movie at Duke University by psychiat

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Psychiatrists at Carl Zender and JB Ryan they developed a

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ESP psychic car game which would go on to attest and evaluate

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Indigenous school children in Canada as well as the United States

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That that was known as the Zender cards and this is a very real

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telepathy car game that a lot of people in the gate program

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remember doing as children and

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I guess it's good to go back to your

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One of your first questions is like how did the saw how did all the research and everything start to

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Formulate and began well it's kind of started around four years ago whenever I started looking into a lot of the MK ultra

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Subprojects the ones that we know about

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Because it's been reported that there were I

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don't even

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Some have estimated up to three to four hundred different MK ultra sub projects, but we only got a hundred and forty nine of

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Them and the only way that we got them was that some people were cleaning out some storage

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Facility and then they stumbled across all of the MK ultra documents that were that weren't destroyed or burned

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So that's only way that's the only way that we even know about any of this MK or have any of the

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Documentation about MK ultra is that it was just stumbled across in some

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Storage facility and if it hadn't been found if people would be talking about how they were like brainwashing everyone

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Go get out of here bullshit. I mean nobody know you're that government wouldn't do that

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Like Kathy O'Brien all these people they'd be like put the straight jacket on that crazy old lady

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But now now you know about MK ultra. You know what it is. Thank God because we they preserved some of the documents

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MK Naomi and all these other ones that they were head scrambling

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Projects, I mean this this is a real thing did they did the the gate gifted in talented education

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Does that have to do with Stargate or where they just bring in this gate?

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Word through everything was that sort of a running theme here?

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What does it mean something? Is it some occultic word or is it a gateway to somewhere else or what are they doing here?

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Yeah, it's pretty much just the in name only

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There we don't have any evidence that anybody that was in the gate program ever became a

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Official remote and I asked the people that were in the in the doc

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You the official remote viewers for DIA army intelligence if they were ever in a gate program

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But this was they had to have been in school before there was any official gifted and talented

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Education because it started in 1958. So they would have been in grade school and

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You know middle school long before then so

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It's pretty much just only in name

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You know that that's been carried over, you know, and we get a lot of gates. I mean everyone is kind of involved in a gate

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I mean when you go to the freaking airport, what do you go to you go to your gate?

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But I mean there's the flight gate. There's water gate. There's everything is a gate. It was what it seems

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I'm wondering if it's a magic spell that somebody's like, oh, yeah, don't you know the entomology that word gate means

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Casting demons or so. I don't know. So I'm just making it up

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But you know that somebody's gonna tell me like, oh, oh, yeah, it's all like witchcraft and spell casting

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Yeah, I mean it wouldn't surprise me that probably someone would do that. What is that where they turn the

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The name into a number. Oh

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Jamatria jamatria, yeah, they'll do a jamatria on it and say that sure

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So so they're looking for mentally gifted miners in this gate program, right? So what do they do when they find them?

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Well, that's the part that there's not a lot of

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evidence for and that was my main goal was to find evidence of what these gate programs really were

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doing and what the goals and the activities of

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taking these children out and

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putting them into a special

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class or

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you know

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with other kids, right that have been deemed gifted and talented and

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That's the

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Really the only speculative part of the entire movie is kind of what happens after

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You've been through the program. Yeah, because there's not they're not gonna put in a

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Document that Johnny Johnny graduated the gift of program and now he's the he's the head of NASA

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You know what I mean? They're not gonna put that in any document

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Well, my fear is actually much darker is that they disappear these kids into some underground base to

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To you know be precogs like they did in Minority Report or something like that

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You know, I like take them take them someplace and weaponize their gifts

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You know or you know, I also was curious if they were looking for something in bloodlines, you know

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They're putting all these kids through something and maybe this is we're looking for lost bloodlines or you know

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I never trust whatever it is. They're looking for gifted and talented. It's pretty vague to me

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So I just wondered if they were maybe looking for something else if they what they did they

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Categorize all these kids into a database. I mean, I like my my my mind goes to the worst possible place where they're like

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Oh, you're very talented come with us and they put you in a van and then you never see those kids again

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Right. They just disappear into some bunker. That's it. That is a very high possibility and it is

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Hinted at throughout the movie that that is a possibility with

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the idea that

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The Stargate remote viewing unit was shut down and with my belief that

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they had another unit that was done with remote influencing and remote control, which is what

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Limbukannon calls it and I show a document in the movie. I didn't show the entire document because

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You know if somebody actually got their hands on it then they could probably do some real damage, but it's a

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very real document that

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Talks about the the steps on how to remotely influence somebody

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You know it gives you the steps on how to do that and

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You know what that would seems like it would be a very good tool

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To know how to do and it could persuade

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foreign

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Targets I could persuade political leaders. I could even

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Persuade somebody to act erratically it could I mean I asked Limbukannon in the movie

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I was like could you get into someone's head to have them crash a plane?

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You know could you get into someone's head to have them crash a train?

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You know derail a train

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You know and then the next step of that which I

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Didn't put in the movie because I want you to put two and two together on your own it

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Would it be possible to get into someone's head psychically to have them kill somebody?

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Yeah to have them assassinate someone right because that's that's the the whole thing here is that

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Yes, it might be possible that you could kill somebody with your mind, right?

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You could raise their blood pressure like someone that already has some sort of predisposed condition

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That that you would want to you know them to

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Die from a heart attack or something you that is possible to do it would take a lot of work and a lot of time

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but

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According to Limbukannon, it is very possible. He was asked if he could kill Osama bin Laden with his mind

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He said yes, I could do that, but I'm not going to do that

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but the part of the interview that you didn't hear was that

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He said I well I can make him sick and

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Apparently he did it was like two weeks that no one heard from Osama bin Laden during that period of time and was reported that he was like

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Sick or something and then you know

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He wasn't during that period of time that Lynn was doing the remote influencing sickness on him

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He wasn't anywhere to be seen so it's like yes, you could do that. You could psychically assassinate somebody

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But what does that really?

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Do in the grand scheme of things right would you rather have

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Osama bin Laden die of a heart attack inside of a cave somewhere or at his house or whatever

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That's not going to be very explosive for the American public

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That's not going to be something that is going to get the attention and get everybody who run

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For the United States, but what does get somebody really Huron for the United States is seals team six going in

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Shooting and killing him and then dumping his body in the freaking ocean, which is completely ridiculous

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But anyway, we didn't see any pictures of him dead or anything

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He's just wrapped in some kind of cloth then they would throw him off of the boat whatever doesn't matter

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But the that's just my point is is that

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Yes, you could just psychically kill somebody, but why would you want to do that?

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You would actually want to

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Influence remotely influence somebody else to carry out the act because

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Someone else carrying out the act then

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puts an enemy

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It gives you a singular person that you can blame everything on it was this individual

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It's exactly like with the Charlie Kirk situation, right?

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Everyone is Tyler Robinson Tyler Robinson in this we can blame this all on Tyler Robinson

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It's the exact same thing with the JFK scenario and the JFK assassination. It was Oswald Oswald. Well, we killed Oswald

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Jack Ruby shot and killed Oswald. So now it's over

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Yeah, you know, so we can just blame this on a specific individual

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And it won't matter because it's on that individual and or that group, you know, so there's a there's a lot of

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value yet way more value in a

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remote

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To remote influence somebody else to carry out a crime or carry out an act

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Absolutely. Did did Pat Price get the Osama Bin Laden treatment treatment? I

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Mean did they fake his death because like he got he dies

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They cremate the body. They don't tell his wife, you know, like and then he's like, well, sorry

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I mean he's gone like so you would never kill that guy that guy's too valuable, right? You would you would say

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We're gonna make you an offer. You can't refuse you're gonna die air quotes

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And then we're gonna move you underground change your identity. Maybe not physically move you underground, but you know what? I mean relocate you

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I

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Mean because I can't

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That that's a coincidence. I'm just unwilling to accept that he died that early that young and

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That the military did the things that they did so quickly, you know turning them into a pile of sand

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So you can't identify the body. That's that'd be something you do if you wanted to fake somebody's death. I mean, yeah

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That's exactly what you would do. Yeah, his his family wasn't notified until after he was already cremated

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People showed up to the hotel room in black suits with briefcases. They were the one that took the body

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He took out a large life insurance policy

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He gave his family and his friends a very cryptic phone call the night before he was found dead in the hotel room

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like can't kind of saying, you know

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cryptically saying you're goodbye and

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Yeah, it is 100%

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I believe that the entire thing that his entire thing was faked and you can look at the circumstantial evidence and be like

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Yes, 100% this thing was faked and and not only that the CIA could cut funding to SRI the year that he died

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Why would you do that if you didn't fake his death?

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And he's working at some top-secret underground facility for the the the government or for the CIA, right?

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It's not like Pat Price was the only remote viewer that SRI had

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They also had like Ingo Swan and a few others that were pretty good in and of their own right

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I mean Ingo Swan is considered one of the greats as well

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just as much as as Pat Price was and that's a big reason that Ingo kind of

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Stepped away from the entire thing because I'm pretty sure he knew exactly what happened to Pat Price and he was like

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Yeah, I'm not doing this. I'm

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I'm out of here, you know, he's stuck around for about six or seven years after that

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and then he might have gotten some kind of offer

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Sort of like what Pat Price got and he denied and he was like, yeah, I'm out

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Then he lived out of the rest of his life not being involved with the government and

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you know doing art and stuff like that and doing the speaking events for

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SRI and talking about remote viewing but he discontinued his work with the with the government

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after that. So yeah, it is my 100%

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I mean, I can't factually say because there's not really any there's just circumstantial evidence

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But whenever you build that circumstantial evidence to a point, it's like, okay, what's really going on here?

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He definitely is it reeks of a fake

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fake death

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What's the Monroe Institute? You mentioned it before it's like R&D for like psychic abilities or what were they?

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What were they doing over there?

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well, the goal was to

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induce an out-of-body experience that was what the Monroe Institute is still about to this very day is to

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Get people outside of their body and if you read through the CIA

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Gateway experience document that we actually show in the movie. You'll see that you know, it talks about

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getting outside of your body and communicating with

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non-human intelligence and gathering that information and then coming back and then giving that

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Informant and that's what Robert Monroe did. That's how he wrote a lot of his books was communicating with these non-human

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Intelligence entities in the astral realm and then them giving him information and then him coming back and writing these books

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About his experiences being outside of his body and the connection to the gate

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The Stargate remote viewing unit is that

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Army intelligence paid Robert Monroe around two thousand dollars this was in

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Late 70s or early 80s

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2000 which two thousand dollars is quite a bit of money back and you know the early 80s

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to send some of their army

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personnel to the Monroe Institute to figure out how to see if

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The Monroe Institute hemisync tapes would help them

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Be more psychic or help them with their remote viewing abilities and several of the people

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Including limb Buchanan were sent to the Monroe Institute to study under Robert Monroe, and they also had the tapes they're

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at Fort Meade in the remote viewing unit to

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Lynn said that they would use them as like a cool-down technique after a long day's work

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They would put on the Monroe hemisync tapes and then they would essentially be able to relax

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but also

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Within the Monroe Institute tapes the well not the tapes but within the documents it talks about how

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Bio feedback is really important in understanding

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You know psychic abilities and getting outside of your body and that's really where Katie Page comes in

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I have her in the movie as well

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and she was a part of this program in Colorado in

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The mid 70s to 80s

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I'm not 100% sure on the date you'd have to watch the movie because she said it. I didn't say it

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But she has the actual tapes of

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This program that she was a part of was called the twilight learner program

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And it was by this guy named Thomas H. Bedinsky, which previously worked at area 51

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As a navigational engineer for the SR 71 Blackbird

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And then he just happens to go to Colorado to start this self-hypnosis

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bio feedback program called the twilight learner

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Program, it's so strange

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so strange that all so many of these space engineers and these

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these these tech people

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Also want to be involved in like consciousness psychology and

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Therapy and

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Stuff like that, you know what I mean? Like they all want to be involved in like mental health work

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You know what I mean? It's so be alarmed. It's pretty alarming as many people that were involved in like space exploration

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Working for NASA working at area 51. They're

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Navigational experts and engineers that that they're also involved in psychology. It's so weird

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There's some kind of thread there that I that someone needs to figure out

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I might get to the bottom of it at some point, but it's very interesting and very strange

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so she was a part of this program that was essentially like a

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Self-hypnosis and she said whenever she

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How she remembered that she went through this program was that she's in her later in her life

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She started listening to the Monroe Institute Gateway tapes

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And then she was triggered back to whenever she was a kid and she was involved in this Twilight learner program

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with Thomas H. Bedinsky and

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The Denver Tech Center in Colorado when she was a kid

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And then she's like putting two and two together. She's like this seems like very familiar

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This has given me this exact same experience of this out of body

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Experience that I was getting whenever I was a kid listening to these tapes. So they they're very similar

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In the way that they do the almost the exact same thing

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and then you get into

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The gate program the gifted and talented education and people remembering hearing these strange weird frequencies that

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Triggered them back to whenever they were a kid and in these

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Programs and being tested with these hearing tests in public school in the gate program

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When you were talking about how they they would get these people out of their bodies and have them interact with

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Beans in the astral realm and

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Drag information back and that reminds me of what Jordy Rose said the CEO of D wave who makes the super computers

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He was talking about how they were opening up

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Parallel dimensions and they were interacting with intelligence there and they were dragging information back into this

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dimension and it was like

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I'm like I have a follow-up question

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Who's giving you the information?

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What is the information? How do you know it's they're good?

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How do you know the information is any good like I don't know we're in a world where it's like

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We're in a world of computer viruses. How do you know you're not dragging?

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Like information virus from one dimension into your dimension and this is like a really bad idea

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Like I don't know what his answer was. I never I don't know that he ever really gave a

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Solid answer. I don't I don't think they're I don't think there is an answer but like what is this man like this seems

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Incredibly reckless to me. I mean and I and I love psychedelics don't get me wrong

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I've gone into these places and you know, there's a lot of information, but it's like

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But no there was no being that was like let me give you this information

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Because if that happened, you know, I'd I'd have some thoughts about it

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But like this feels incredibly reckless to to send all these people get them out of their bodies

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interacting with who knows what who knows where right and some parallel dimension and then this information what is supposed to be

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Supposed to be good information or I guess they I don't know maybe they don't make a determination whether it's good or bad

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But maybe whether it's accurate or enough. I mean, how do you measure the accuracy of the information you drag back from some?

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Heavier dimension that you can't even explain to somebody

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Well, that's the thing Alex Jones in 2018 on Joe Rogan was saying that in San Francisco

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There's government agents that would be doing DMT and go and make intergalactic deals with the alien non-human intelligence

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Regardless of what you think about Alex Jones, I mean shit that kind of lines up with what these this Monroe's gateway stuff is

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About you know what I mean and I that one that one always that episode was actually taken down

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You can't find it anymore of but that always stuck with me. That's also the episode that he's talking about how they're harvesting

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Like the the late-term abortion stuff where they're just you know

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Animal human chimera hybrids and all kinds of crazy shit, but very plausible now and they probably

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You know took that down for the whole thing down for a reason, but that's a very difficult episode to find but um, that's right the

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I think that the goal here is because there's also a

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There's a lot of controversy over this substance that was supposedly given to these

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Young children which a lot of people remember it as like the pink drink, right? It's a strange chalky

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type of liquid that a lot of kids in the gay program were

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you know said to have been essentially forced to take and

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When you look at that as like a drug a hallucinogenic drug everything starts to make sense

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I mean, this is exactly what human Cameron was doing in

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the MK Ultra programs in Canada at Raven's crack

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It's literally the exact same thing. He was drugging people

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Psychologically traumatizing them through some form of abuse

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We called it deep patterning which gets rid of any cognitive thought any rational

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Rationalization that you could possibly come to through the trauma that you're receiving and then he would put on a

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Looped audio message, which is what he called psychic driving

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We talk about this in the this is the connection between the second movie and this movie, you know

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Because we talk a lot about you and Cameron in a clockwork shining

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Kubrick's Odyssey 3 and

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That's essentially

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When you relate that to the public school stuff, it seems identical

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To exactly what's going on. So they drug the child and people can say all while this was a

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President's physical fitness test. This was a you know a fluoride whatever mouth rinse you weren't supposed to drink it

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That's yes. I'm not claiming that those things didn't happen. Yes

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I I went to private school. We didn't have a president's physical fitness test at once a year, but this is different

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This isn't a standard

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Quarterly

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Half-year year standard test that can be confused with some of the because that those things did happen, too

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You know, I do and also remember the health department showing up to the school once a year

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and we do like a teeth brushing course and a hand washing course where they would put the

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The soap on your hands, but that wasn't really soap, but it was the go to the sink to wash

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Then they were shine a black light on your you remember this

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They were shine like a black light on your hands to see where you messed up on washing your hands might have been something

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You know that not everyone did but you know, it's something similar to what people

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The the the bunkers and the skeptics of this whole thing would say that it was, you know

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But that's not what I'm talking about something very frequent

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I'm talking about something on a daily

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weekly

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basis that you're being pulled out of the classroom to be a part of this

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this

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Program on a daily and weekly basis. This isn't something that everybody went through

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right there can be

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Certain things that like the things that I just mentioned like the president's physical fitness test where everyone was involved

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Or the health department coming to the school where everyone was involved and that might be something that you're misremembering as

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Something that happened to everybody

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Right, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about something. Yeah, this is different

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Different and separate in the fact that it's happening every single day and and it's a weekly thing so

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When you take into consideration you and Cameron and what he was doing whenever the MK ultra

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Sub projects were leased out to Canada in order for people not to really find out about them within the United States

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they would lease them out to other countries and

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When you take into consideration what he was doing up there and then what people reported was happening to them in the gate program

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The gifted and talented education in public school. They are almost identical. They're given a substance that they don't know

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That could possibly be some sort of hallucinogenic drug

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They're taken into a room. They're given strange tests. They're given

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flash-guard tests of Rorschach test vision test

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Then they have headphones put on them with

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That's exactly like what you and Cameron was doing with the psychic driving the looped audio message. It's it's identical

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In in the process that that it goes through and then they're outside of their body and then they're having a disassociative

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experience

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Where they've gotten outside of their body and now they're in this other state

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They've been drugged and and not knowing what's going on and that's that's like the the whole thing of what?

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MK ultra was really about was

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unknowingly

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dosing people

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With drugs to then gauge the red that was some of the first ones that were ever done. It was done on army personnel

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That would they would just take giant barrels of this this drug called BZ

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Which is like a hundred times more powerful than standard LSD

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They would just crack the barrels open and let those the substance wash out over the field

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And then they would just have what they would simulate an army battle out there

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While and then all the soldiers have to be drug because they were so freakin loopy didn't know what was going on and a lot of them

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They were forced to inhale substances that they weren't told they tried to sue the government

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They didn't get anything and a lot of the the government tried to say that they weren't even in the program

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This is a documentary about it on HBO I can't remember what well, there's a there's a

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there's a motion picture that

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Sort of mimics that Jacob's ladder which in my opinion is the scariest movie

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I have ever seen in my entire life with Tim Robbins in it and

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He have you seen that movie before I have not seen Jacob's law they they're in Vietnam

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They get dosed there it happens in the aftermath. They're looking back on their time in Vietnam

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They're trying to put the pieces together

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Something happened they dosed them

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Turns out what happened is that they dosed them with this chemical agent to make them extremely aggressive called the ladder and

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The people went berserk and they just they didn't just kill the enemy

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They killed each other and they just it was a big disaster and the army tried to like bury it and the whole thing

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It's like he's trying to piece it back together and you know

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It's chaotic and scary and and I and I my assumption is that probably based on some bit of truth

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You know probably a real program like that

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I mean, you know, maybe not a documentary necessarily but but the idea that the government would be spraying you with these

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Chemical agents to try and make you more aggressive on the battlefield. It sounds crazy, but doesn't sound like something they wouldn't do

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Yeah, that program was the first done in Fort Detrick

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Maryland which is very close to Fort Mead, Maryland and some of it was also done at Redstone Orsenal

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As well, so yeah, yeah, that was some of the very first MK Ultra programs were experiments on army personnel

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That were volunteers for the program and they weren't told what the outcome of any of these experiments were going to be

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They just were told that they were

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Biological agents

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They weren't told that it was going to make essentially them go into a psychosis because when you're unknowingly dosed with a hallucinogenic

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You can immediately go into a psychosis because you don't know what's going on like whenever you take a

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Substance and you knowingly know what it's going to do. You can mentally prepare for that experience, right?

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When you're unknowingly dosed with it

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You you think you're having a mental breakdown you you don't know it's one thing if you do acid and go to the grocery store

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It's another thing if you didn't know you were doing acid and you're going to the and you're at in you're there and the

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The the hall gets longer like the aisle gets twice as long and you're like, holy shit

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It's finally happening. I'm losing my mind if that happened to you like on just a normal Tuesday afternoon

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You check yourself into the nut house for sure

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But if you if somebody later told you, oh, we were just fucking with you. We sprayed you with a bunch of stuff

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You'd still wouldn't like it of course

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But at least it would fill in some of the gaps as to why your brain became

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You know so so unhinged out of the blue

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Yeah, you can lose your mind and that was like the whole that's what the CIA love doing

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They they love just unknowingly dosing people

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There was an apartment that they just put lsd aerosol in that was a party

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You had that people would just go out of their minds and lose their marbles

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Well speaking of fake dust too, I just had Walter Bosley on the channel last week and he was talking about how his neighbor

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Whenever he was in the air force and then he started getting into the

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FBI and working as an undercover agent and a lot of these operations

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His neighbor was also an intelligence officer. I worked for the intelligence community and

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He had went to Antarctica on a mission

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Okay, he's seen some

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Apparently seen some crazy shit down there

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right

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almost lost his mind

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based off of what he saw

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And then the military called his wife and said that he had died

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That he died in combat right he was gone her

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And then eight months later

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She gets another phone call and it's him

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And he's like i'm alive. I'll be at the house in 10 minutes

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Don't ask me any questions. I'm not going to talk about

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what happened

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Whoa

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But i'm here and i'm out of active duty. I'm done with the military

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Yeah, and uh, and i'm back

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So yeah, I yeah, I I think that happens more than than people

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No, but uh

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Um

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How is walter bosley? I haven't talked to him in in a while

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I had a phone conversation with him one one time that

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For like an hour we talked about all kinds of stuff interesting guy

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Uh, he's doing really great. Um, uh

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He's writing a new book

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He's uh

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Trying to get into the documentary

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Spaces as well, but he's doing really good. So yeah, have him on again. Uh, have him on again sometime soon

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his UFO work is uh

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Really incredible

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His airship work is is pretty remarkable as well. I mean that took me down a rabbit hole. I was like wait a second wait

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What because I because I

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Lived for 10 years in the south bay area of of los angeles and anybody that

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Would go down that 405 bend in the south bay would see the blimp the good year blimp was stationed there

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It was right off of the freeway. You'd drive if it was in town

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It would be there and you would see it and so

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I would just see that blimp, you know, I don't know maybe once a month for 10 years, you know

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and just think and I would I remember thinking like

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That's kind of an unusual technology that sort of never really went anywhere

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and then then you dig and then you get into walters work and it's like

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Are you certain about that that that technology that never went anywhere like

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Allow me to introduce you to the concept of the vanilla sky and I was like wait what?

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What is like so he cracked my head open on on some stuff years ago and

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On the airship mystery of like the late 1800s early 1900s and

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And why all those paintings look the way they look man

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I'll tell you what there's so much of our history that we just do not know that they

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intentionally misled us about like

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You know, that's why when you're doing you're you're doing work on on these sorts of psychic

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Abilities like psychic programs and it all feels very brand new

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But I wonder how much of this technology this knowledge has been around for you and it's just about guarding it

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It's been around for thousands of years and people know exactly how to put you into a meditative state and

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You know, they destroyed the technology because it would have been too helpful or something like that

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You know what I mean? Like I just I feel like our history is such bullshit and and

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I don't know. It's frustrating. I feel I feel very destabilized because of that like you you sort of

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Drifting like you don't know where you come from

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You told that this is the most technologically advanced time in human history. I have questions about that. I don't know

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I don't know if that's necessarily true

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And I think this might have been there might have been some other times that got

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Flooded over over the years. So I don't know man

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How how do you do it at the at this point? Like you've gone down every rabbit hole

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And then some like how do you how do you how is your head working these days after everything that you know?

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Well, I think a lot of things have been hidden from us

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From a very deep fundamental level. I mean so many of our cities are built on top of other cities

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Sacramento is literally built on top of old

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Sacramento that's seen with san francisco

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There's the tunnels underneath the both of those city vegas as well

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And also it's like you know under vegas. Yeah, so like what are we even doing here?

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Like I don't even understand how this is even like a thing anymore. It's

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It's unbelievable that you know, uh, we can't come to the realization that

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You know, maybe we're we're not the most advanced that we've ever been, you know, like why is that so hard?

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Why is that so hard for academia to come into the realization that

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We have probably been here at this exact point several times before and the history. I mean, how far is it?

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I mean science and archaeology is keeps putting pushing back the date

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I mean there's a skull that was found recently that was like over a million years old, dude

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Yeah, so

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We have we have recency bias we we feel that we're

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You know since we're here now

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We're the pinnacle like the final evolution of everything that's been going on over the years if it had been any better

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It

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We would be building upon that, right? That's the sort of the law

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And it's actually kind of logical to think that I suppose unless you

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Contemplate that maybe civilization was brought to a halt abruptly multiple times throughout

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It's you know

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Recorded history or I don't even know if it's recorded history

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But just the history that we've been here and and I you mentioned too the same time the NASA gets formed

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Same time the Rockefellers

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Invade the school system

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public school system compulsory school system

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You start see globes in the classrooms

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You know, they start putting globes there to start talking to you about dinosaurs immediately

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I mean what kid doesn't want to talk about dinosaurs, right? So I I've started scratching my head

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I mean if we're gonna review everything here if everything's on the table for review then like I have questions about like

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I don't know about these dinosaurs either

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You know

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They just literally found a whole pit of bones and then just started putting things together and was like this is a dinosaur

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This is what we think the dinosaur looks like

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It doesn't look anything like that. It was just a giant pit of freaking bones that they decided to put together

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To make it look like whatever they wanted it to look at. This is a velociraptor. This is a t-rex

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No, it's not. How do you know?

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It's not like the entire dinosaur was preserved

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No, they've never died. They've never found one

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Completely preserved in the exact way that it's been presented to us as the way that it looked

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Doesn't exist. It's never existed

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So what does that do to somebody's mind, you know what I mean?

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Like it puts it like if you introduced that information early on

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Same way as like cultures before us have have done it with like religion believing that like

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I don't know you have to sacrifice people so that you can get the so the weather will be favorable to you

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Right, but if you believe that if you're if you grow up with that early on and that's just what you believe

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Or that's what you're told

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You know, you don't seem to drift too much away from that. I wonder what the benefit is

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To the controllers to keep us in the dark about

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A lot of this stuff. I understand like psychic abilities. That'd be crazy if everybody could tap into their psychic abilities. It might be

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unstable for for the controlling parties, but like what difference does it make to them whether or not dinosaurs are real or the shape of the earth or the

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uh, you know aliens or anything like that

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I

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It just seems like they're they're intentionally limiting our possibility or putting us on some different

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uh

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thought process

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Just to keep us

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disoriented and confused

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I'll tell you why because it's exactly

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why

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you would want to get the smartest person from

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India to come and work for your company your your major tech company

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This is it. It's the exact same reason why you would want to get

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A very smart developer from china to come and work for your giant

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Because anything that they make for you

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They have no control over they can invent the the greatest technology the world has ever seen

01:03:42.650 --> 01:03:45.170
For you they will never own it

01:03:46.170 --> 01:03:52.190
They will never be the head of that company. They will never be the ceo of that organization

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They will never be the president of that organization. So it's about control

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You could control

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the people

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Then uh

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And you know that would be the big reason that you would want to control the kids because if you control the kids

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and what they are uh determined to do from a very young age then you essentially have

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a stranglehold on the future and you can

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basically tell the future because

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And know the future because you have all the people

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Already ready to develop that future for you and that gets into your one of your original questions of what was

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the gate program

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all about

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and

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I don't just believe that it was for psychic abilities. I don't just believe that it was some sort of

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mk ultra

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project I I believe that it was also for

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recruitment but

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not only recruitment for

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The three-light organizations and the military because that's a really big branch of it as well, but it's also

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For uh putting people in positions of power

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Corporations uh CEOs

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uh to because again if you get

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The the brightest

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Mines working for you that means that they are not going to be competition for you

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They're not going to go out and invent their own corporation

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They're not going to run their own multimillion dollar organization. They're not going to be uh, you know any kind of

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Trouble for you in the long term because they are working for you

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Right. They're they're all of their smarts

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And their innovation is going and the people that slip through the cracks don't really matter because

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Those people can be like their ideas and their

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patents and whatever that they come up with. Uh, it can be hidden and uh, basically banished under the national security act

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Right. That's another really important aspect of this. They can just call anything

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National security and then just completely conceal it under the banner of national security

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Right. That's what the patriot act in 9 11 really did was

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You know because there was this thing in the early 70s about like furpa

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And uh, a lot of parents were getting really upset because they couldn't get their child's uh educational records

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And it turned out that the educational records was actually going to the cia

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That's why they couldn't get their records, right their their kids records. So they installed this, uh

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this bill called furpa

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and furpa was to

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Give the rights back to the parents to get their child's education records

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But the cia slipped in an amendment at like the one of the last uh days of this bill being passed

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That still allowed the cia to get access to all of the so the parents got the access finally back, but

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It all didn't block access from the cia from also getting the ability to get the records as well

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And then when 9 11 happened and the patriot act happened basically

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Got rid of any remnants of furpa ever existing because now it's about terrorism, right now we can

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Get in and get access to anybody's records that we possibly ever want to have under the threat of

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of terrorism of domestic or or foreign

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terrorism, right and that's how they

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Essentially got around anything that was left over from furpa. So now it's just uh, you know, they can label it as whatever they want

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And that was under the the threat of the whole

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terrorism thing was under the threat of national security. So they can essentially do that with

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Any patent that you ever file?

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With the patent office, they can just hide it under the the national security act. Um,

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Uh, I think that that is called the invention

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secrecy act of 1951

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Which says that the government can literally classify any patent under the threat of national security

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And you know, what is national security again at national security is just whatever the they say that it is

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All right, so it's a multi layered thing. It's not just for psychic abilities

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It's not just for recruitment to the military or in the three letter organizations. It's also

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to find the next gretta thunberg

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Right, it's also to find

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the net that's going to come out there and talk about climate change and all this

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Crazy shit or whatever it is whatever agenda. It's to propagandize people is to find the next person

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To come out and and push the next agenda that they want pushed

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That's a big part of the in the programs, too

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It's a to find the next athlete to find the next

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Top musician I mean when you go back and look at like all the musicians from the 60s and all these people had military backgrounds

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Their fathers were in military

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They had a very close relative that was in the military

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The the air force had a freaking air force base on top of laurel canyon called lookout mountain

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Uh air force base, you know what I mean? So this is just a carryover

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To get everybody it's exactly like mk ultra how they realized that mk ultra was

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You know

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They figured it out on an individual level and then they were like well

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Let's just expand this to do it to everybody all the exact same time

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We'll just have these really big traumatic events that will traumatize them. We'll uproot everybody's lives and then we'll

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You know to turn it into then I'll give us the ability to pass the laws that we would otherwise not be able to do

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Okay, that's exactly like what happened with

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Uh

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Getting people into uh positions of power through the kids of military servicemen and women

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Okay, now that evolved out of there to everybody's kids

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Yeah, it was for tested first on those military kids

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Probably in laurel canyon all that stuff going on, you know, it's funny you say look out mountain you mentioned that I just saw two day

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That uh jared leto sold it for 12 million bucks. He bought it for five. Yep. I saw it today that he sold it

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Bro it was said that he was running a straight up cult out of that did you hear about that?

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Yeah, and he probably is and my assumption is that maybe they told him to sell it

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Like you're a little too hot right now. What would the whole cult leadership that you're doing?

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You know, maybe you need to leave our facility that you bought

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Right air quotes for us. Um, yeah, there's some fuckery of foot there for sure and and that guy is

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He's one step away from

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Uh, serving up kool-aid to all his followers. Um, damn man

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You're good. Totally right. He bought it for five million and he sold it for 12 months off the market

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So this was like a private sale

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Yeah, you don't exactly put that one on realtor.com. I don't I don't think

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I mean you could there there's probably some kind of freaks in uh

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In all area. Yeah, I mean it would be it's like like on that from a dollar per square foot standpoint

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It's a bang. It's a great deal. I mean you get it like a gigantic facility

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Not exactly like what a husband and wife with kids is looking for it

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What's the school district here around the lookout mountain? Oh

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This is you're probably gonna is probably gonna take you into some underground bunker or something and it's probably bad there. Um

01:11:40.630 --> 01:11:43.150
Let's wrap up with this. Let's give your

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Executive producer ken Swartz some some love for being involved in in the film. You know, we love ken ken is, uh

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The founder of uh c60 power you guys can go to shopc60.com promo code macro get your carbon 60

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ken the scientist man he

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He

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How was he involved he kicked in a little bit of money for it?

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Yes, he's the uh executive producer

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Well, no, he's the producer j is the executive producer. He uh, he produced the the movie for me and uh helped

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Help fund it and i'm very grateful to ken. He's a very big supporter of

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This movie and just a supporter of truth just in general

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So, uh, I'm very grateful for ken being involved with this project and hopefully will

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Fund uh projects uh in the future

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That I want to do a charlie kirk

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I want to do a charlie kirk one next brown

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Excellent excellent. Yeah ken ken lives not too far from me. We go to lunch all the time

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He's been to mexico for narcapulco a few times. He's he's he's a trip man. We we love ken. He's been on the show a bunch

01:12:57.310 --> 01:13:02.870
To um, let's wrap up with this. Where's the best place to find it? I watched it on amazon prime

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And so I know it's available there

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psychic agent the gate program

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Where is there is available anywhere else or is that should we direct everybody to

01:13:12.730 --> 01:13:15.570
prime that is the uh primary place

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That you can watch it. It's on a few other streaming uh platforms

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But that's just the easiest one that you can uh

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Purchase it on and yeah the the whole

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The very foundation of the reason that I wanted to make the movie was

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Not only give people a history of the psychic spy unit ran by the di a and army intelligence

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Which I feel like that is the first time that that's ever really been done a conclusive history

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But it was also to

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prove

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What they were doing in the uh gate program

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Uh

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Gifted and talented education in public school and we show documentation

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Real documentation in the movie of exactly what they were doing

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Also with uh mk ultra sub project 102

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Which was a summer camp where the cia was collecting data on 462 children

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mk ultra sub project

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83 which was all about the study of esp and psychic abilities and

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136 literally talks about psychic testing on children

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I hope people go and check it out. Yeah, you can rent it or purchase it

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On amazon prime and please leave a rating and uh, if you don't want to leave a review, that's fine, but uh,

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If you could leave a at least leave a rating

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And a review it will really help out

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The movie and help push it out the first three months of the movie being out is really important

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So, uh, thanks so much for having me on charlie. Really appreciate it. Glad you watched it and glad you really enjoyed it. Yeah

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Yeah, well this audience knows we're very vocal about

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Stuffing the ballot box in terms of rating because those bastards rig the algorithms against us on everything else

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Like if we have the ability to make sure that everybody who rents it or buys it

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Gives it five stars and write something nice about it. Yes. We will most definitely do that

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We we we do that around here to fight back against

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Those bastards and if you went through the gate program, this this movie is not optional

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Okay, it is required viewing if you went through it. I mean a view after watching this you're you're you're you're gonna have to

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You're just gonna have to check it out for yourself. I've watched it. It is fantastic

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That's right early everybody go out there and support his work and connect with him

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Um, you can find it at amazon prime. I'm gonna put the link in the show notes

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So it's easy for everybody to check it out

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If you want to connect with me macro aggressions.io is the website activist post.com. We're doing news over there

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Thanks, everybody talk to you again soon

