WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:06.620 I really got the feeling of a guy sort of trying his best to repeat the talking points, 00:06.700 --> 00:10.120 but very constrained, like unable to say certain things. 00:10.400 --> 00:14.180 Not because those things might harm the interests of the U.S. government. 00:14.660 --> 00:18.640 He was happy to attack, for example, the U.S. military and say they're more brutal 00:18.640 --> 00:20.200 than the Israeli military, okay? 00:21.460 --> 00:24.780 But unwilling to say certain things because they might reflect poorly on the Israeli 00:24.780 --> 00:25.240 government. 00:26.420 --> 00:30.660 And you sort of thinking about this for a second, you're like, wait, you're the U.S. 00:30.840 --> 00:33.660 ambassador, you're our representative to a foreign country. 00:34.020 --> 00:37.140 Why is your red line criticism of that country? 00:37.540 --> 00:38.900 Shouldn't you be representing us? 00:39.500 --> 00:42.240 And it was very obvious he was representing the Israelis. 00:43.020 --> 00:43.400 Obvious. 00:43.640 --> 00:44.900 And again, you can judge for yourself. 00:45.280 --> 00:45.580 That's right. 00:45.980 --> 00:46.900 You can judge for yourself. 00:47.500 --> 00:50.140 And if you want to watch the full two and a half hours, I highly recommend it. 00:50.300 --> 00:51.340 It's very informative. 00:51.950 --> 00:54.620 Some people may be wondering why is this so pertinent? 00:55.240 --> 00:56.340 Why does this matter so much? 00:57.120 --> 01:01.220 Well, other than the fact that we're on the brink of a very significant war, 01:01.320 --> 01:04.780 if not a full on ground war invasion of Iran. 01:05.440 --> 01:08.960 The other reason that this is important is because as I've highlighted over the 01:08.960 --> 01:12.540 past couple of years of doing Liberty Lockdown, hi, this is Clint Russell. 01:12.760 --> 01:13.160 Welcome back. 01:13.540 --> 01:18.520 Is that it seems more and more apparent that we do not have sovereignty, 01:19.210 --> 01:23.240 that we do not have the ability to vote for a change in direction, 01:23.420 --> 01:26.060 particularly when it comes to foreign policy, particularly when it comes to 01:26.060 --> 01:28.020 foreign policy for one particular country. 01:28.360 --> 01:28.980 Doesn't matter. 01:29.500 --> 01:31.280 Left, right, we get the same thing. 01:31.500 --> 01:36.820 And at its core, the primary ideology that adds fuel to this fire is 01:36.820 --> 01:41.400 called dispensationalism or Christian Zionism or Zionism more broadly. 01:41.760 --> 01:44.560 And Mike Huckabee is one of those proud Christian Zionists. 01:44.560 --> 01:48.180 And he had over two hours to try and explain his worldview to Tucker 01:48.180 --> 01:50.360 Carlson, and he really failed to do so. 01:50.500 --> 01:54.180 And it's not that he failed to do so for lack of trying, but rather 01:54.180 --> 01:58.140 because I believe that the argument is so full of holes that it's 01:58.140 --> 02:01.820 impossible to make a quality defense of that position. 02:02.120 --> 02:03.000 So why does it matter? 02:03.580 --> 02:09.420 It matters because the huge support for that worldview comes 02:09.420 --> 02:14.240 from Christians in America, which believe to their core in a very 02:14.240 --> 02:19.260 loving way that they must defend Israel to get into heaven. 02:19.980 --> 02:21.260 Like, this is no exaggeration. 02:21.700 --> 02:24.520 Like, that's honestly what many Christians in America believe. 02:24.760 --> 02:25.600 There's variants of that. 02:25.740 --> 02:27.640 Some of them believe that it brings about the rapture. 02:27.820 --> 02:32.720 But regardless, they believe that we must sacrifice basically our 02:32.720 --> 02:34.480 nation on behalf of a foreign one. 02:34.680 --> 02:37.520 And while principally and philosophically, I oppose that simply 02:37.520 --> 02:41.420 because I'm a non-interventionist libertarian, I also oppose it on 02:41.420 --> 02:44.100 moral grounds because I believe that the people who are being 02:44.100 --> 02:47.500 taxed against their will in the United States ought to be the 02:47.500 --> 02:49.700 primary benefactors of those stolen dollars. 02:50.020 --> 02:51.120 That is not happening. 02:51.260 --> 02:53.500 Now, that's not to say that all of our financial woes are 02:53.500 --> 02:56.060 a product of us sending billions and billions of dollars to 02:56.060 --> 02:56.260 Israel. 02:56.500 --> 02:57.320 Obviously, it's not. 02:57.660 --> 03:01.560 But when you add in our military intervention on behalf 03:01.560 --> 03:04.760 of Israel, when it comes to Iraq, Afghanistan, basically 03:04.760 --> 03:07.720 the entire global war on terror and the upcoming war with 03:07.720 --> 03:11.900 Iran, well, then you start to quantify that and you're looking 03:11.900 --> 03:13.400 at trillions of dollars. 03:13.860 --> 03:18.740 In fact, probably around 10 trillion so far and could be 03:18.740 --> 03:22.660 God knows how much if we actually do have a full-on ground 03:22.660 --> 03:24.420 invasion of Iran coming up here soon. 03:24.660 --> 03:26.920 And I hate to do this preface, but it seems like it's 03:26.920 --> 03:29.240 necessary because if I don't do it, then I'm accused of 03:29.240 --> 03:29.800 being a hater. 03:30.440 --> 03:31.660 This is not about hate. 03:32.220 --> 03:36.860 In fact, this is about love, love of my own country, love of 03:36.860 --> 03:40.900 my own people, love for peace, love for prosperity, not that 03:40.900 --> 03:44.860 it matters, but two of my best friends in this podcasting 03:44.860 --> 03:47.460 world are probably the Fire Bernstein and Dave Smith, 03:48.140 --> 03:50.300 both Jewish, neither of which are Zionists. 03:50.660 --> 03:53.220 Many of my best friends growing up were Jewish was never 03:53.220 --> 03:53.640 an issue. 03:53.940 --> 03:57.580 Literally, never, never mattered to me at all. 03:57.600 --> 03:58.420 Still doesn't. 03:58.420 --> 04:02.760 But what I don't like is when my nation takes a back seat 04:02.760 --> 04:06.060 after being robbed to the benefit of a foreign one. 04:06.160 --> 04:09.840 And I think that anybody being honest about this ought to 04:09.840 --> 04:13.360 be able to view this for what it is, which is we are being 04:13.360 --> 04:17.060 bled both literally when it comes to our soldiers and 04:17.060 --> 04:19.640 economically when it comes to the United States balance 04:19.640 --> 04:21.240 sheet and to the tax-paying dollar. 04:21.480 --> 04:24.260 So while this episode will be very, very critical of our 04:24.260 --> 04:26.900 relationship with Israel, I just wanted to make it 04:26.900 --> 04:29.820 very clear that this is not some sort of condemnation 04:29.820 --> 04:31.340 broad-based against Jewish people. 04:31.680 --> 04:33.400 Honestly, it shouldn't need to be said. 04:33.840 --> 04:36.880 If you've watched my show for any amount of time, I think 04:36.880 --> 04:39.600 that that comes through, that this is not a hate-filled 04:39.600 --> 04:42.840 proposition, but rather one that I think is necessary. 04:43.400 --> 04:46.140 I think in many ways, it's the biggest question that 04:46.140 --> 04:48.800 we face as a people, and by a people I mean Americans. 04:49.380 --> 04:53.460 Are we ever going to reclaim our own government? 04:53.960 --> 04:56.360 Are we ever going to actually have a government that 04:56.360 --> 04:58.500 looks after us first and foremost? 04:59.200 --> 05:01.720 In my opinion and my preference would be that we have 05:01.720 --> 05:04.700 a government that only concerns itself with us. 05:05.200 --> 05:09.080 That seems like a very basic ask, and yet there has 05:09.080 --> 05:12.320 been an enormous debate over the past three years 05:12.320 --> 05:14.460 in particular when it comes to this topic. 05:14.920 --> 05:18.420 The hallmark of that debate have been slurs and 05:18.420 --> 05:20.820 yelling and condemnations. 05:21.160 --> 05:22.700 I'm not interested in doing that. 05:22.920 --> 05:25.680 I am merely interested in reclaiming our government 05:25.680 --> 05:29.000 and making it work for us, the people who live here. 05:29.460 --> 05:29.720 I know. 05:30.120 --> 05:31.460 It's a very hateful worldview. 05:31.880 --> 05:34.560 And to that end, we're going to be dissecting some 05:34.560 --> 05:39.060 of the more, how do I say, concerning highlights 05:39.580 --> 05:43.160 from this interview with Tucker Carlson and Mike Huckabee. 05:43.420 --> 05:45.020 And in the second half of this episode, I'm going 05:45.020 --> 05:47.920 to be unpacking the, I guess, kind of testimony. 05:48.200 --> 05:49.800 I don't even know if it was on the record, but 05:49.800 --> 05:53.540 Leslie Wexner, a confidant and business partner 05:53.540 --> 05:57.160 with one Jeffrey Epstein, finally spoke with 05:57.160 --> 05:58.820 the Congressional House Oversight Committee. 05:59.040 --> 06:01.580 And there was some incredible insights that we 06:01.580 --> 06:03.060 received from that conversation. 06:03.280 --> 06:04.760 So we'll get there right after this. 06:05.000 --> 06:06.240 You've appealed to Genesis. 06:06.460 --> 06:08.800 Genesis 15 says it's Abram. 06:08.900 --> 06:09.540 It's pre Abraham. 06:09.760 --> 06:13.100 It's Abram receives from God the news that 06:13.100 --> 06:15.320 his descendants will inherit the land from 06:15.920 --> 06:17.520 the Euphrates to the Nile. 06:18.160 --> 06:19.300 I think, I think that's right. 06:20.440 --> 06:22.840 And that would include, like basically 06:22.840 --> 06:23.620 the entire Middle East. 06:23.840 --> 06:25.560 That would be the Levant. 06:25.780 --> 06:28.860 So that would be Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon. 06:29.000 --> 06:32.780 It would also be big parts of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. 06:33.100 --> 06:33.760 It would be, I mean. 06:33.880 --> 06:35.020 Not sure it would go that far. 06:35.180 --> 06:36.600 I mean, it would be a big piece of land. 06:36.680 --> 06:37.220 But here's the point. 06:37.360 --> 06:39.880 It would be a lot of places that are now countries. 06:40.140 --> 06:42.380 So it is entirely fair for me with respect 06:42.380 --> 06:44.000 to ask, what land are you talking about? 06:44.040 --> 06:46.700 Because I just read Genesis 15 as I have many times. 06:47.260 --> 06:49.200 And that land, I think it says, 06:49.380 --> 06:51.760 from the Nile to the Euphrates, 06:51.940 --> 06:55.340 which is, once again, basically the entire Middle East. 06:55.500 --> 06:58.220 So God gave that land to his people, the Jews, 06:58.380 --> 06:59.140 or he didn't. 06:59.600 --> 07:00.720 You're saying he did. 07:01.960 --> 07:02.940 What does that mean? 07:03.280 --> 07:06.100 Does Israel have the right to that land? 07:06.240 --> 07:07.820 Because you're appealing to Genesis. 07:08.440 --> 07:10.460 You're saying that's the original deed. 07:12.480 --> 07:14.300 It would be fine if they took it all. 07:14.300 --> 07:16.140 But we're starting off with a sledgehammer there. 07:16.600 --> 07:18.360 It would be fine if they took it all. 07:18.980 --> 07:20.540 I mean, what he's describing is, 07:20.760 --> 07:22.520 as Tucker Lewis stated, 07:22.900 --> 07:24.320 basically the entire Middle East. 07:24.920 --> 07:25.980 This is just a reminder. 07:26.380 --> 07:29.540 This is the United States ambassador to Israel, 07:29.800 --> 07:32.780 as in, he's supposed to represent the United States 07:32.780 --> 07:37.200 American interests in his role as ambassador to Israel. 07:37.520 --> 07:38.660 Just imagine for a second, 07:38.780 --> 07:41.380 if the United States ambassador to Russia 07:41.380 --> 07:45.800 were to say that Russia has a deed 07:45.800 --> 07:48.500 because of God says so to Ukraine 07:48.500 --> 07:50.280 and a whole bunch of other Eastern bloc nations. 07:50.560 --> 07:53.600 What kind of uproar and outcry would that create? 07:53.820 --> 07:57.020 Well, it would be universal and justifiably so, 07:57.420 --> 07:59.400 because that's an insane thing to think. 07:59.700 --> 08:01.640 Much less say, much less believe, 08:01.980 --> 08:04.380 much less say in front of the world 08:04.800 --> 08:05.760 on one of the largest, 08:05.920 --> 08:08.400 if not the largest political podcast in the world. 08:08.400 --> 08:11.080 I mean, to call it reckless doesn't even do it justice. 08:11.480 --> 08:13.080 I mean, it is psychotic. 08:13.260 --> 08:15.440 It is a psychotic perspective to hold. 08:15.640 --> 08:18.420 These are nations that have been possessed, 08:18.740 --> 08:21.340 controlled, defended and lived on 08:21.340 --> 08:23.580 by a different set of people 08:24.100 --> 08:25.880 for hundreds in some cases, 08:26.100 --> 08:27.380 thousands of years. 08:27.760 --> 08:29.420 And yet, Mike Huckabee, 08:29.980 --> 08:33.280 a man who allegedly represents United States interests, 08:34.080 --> 08:36.700 says that it'd be fine if they take it all. 08:36.700 --> 08:39.300 I mean, it's just crazy. 08:40.420 --> 08:42.600 It's reckless beyond words. 08:43.220 --> 08:46.120 But the logic of Tucker's question is flawless. 08:46.680 --> 08:49.120 If you're going to use biblical passages 08:49.120 --> 08:51.440 to defend their right to that land, 08:51.700 --> 08:54.880 then it has to stick to the actual biblical passage. 08:55.300 --> 08:58.220 It can't just be, well, God granted him this land. 08:58.780 --> 08:59.620 Okay, let's look it up. 09:00.020 --> 09:01.380 Which land did he grant to them? 09:01.860 --> 09:03.280 Well, from the Nile to the Euphrates. 09:03.760 --> 09:05.960 Well, that's basically all of the Middle East. 09:05.960 --> 09:07.580 So why do they get this little sliver? 09:07.980 --> 09:08.920 Why do they only get Israel? 09:09.520 --> 09:10.920 What about all these other countries? 09:11.520 --> 09:13.940 Oh, well, I guess if they wanted that, that's theirs too. 09:14.380 --> 09:15.620 And the reason that this is a big deal 09:15.620 --> 09:16.780 for those that aren't familiar 09:16.780 --> 09:18.860 is because of the Greater Israel Project, 09:19.060 --> 09:20.740 because of the West Clark Seven, 09:21.140 --> 09:23.720 because of the history of United States intervention 09:23.720 --> 09:28.040 as well as militarism from Israel against their neighbors, 09:28.040 --> 09:30.560 which makes it look more and more evident 09:30.560 --> 09:33.340 that in fact, that is what they are intending to do. 09:33.380 --> 09:35.040 That is what they have been working on 09:35.040 --> 09:37.620 for a very long time as in decades now. 09:37.780 --> 09:39.760 And most galling by far 09:39.760 --> 09:42.960 is that they are using our blood and treasure. 09:43.120 --> 09:44.760 And I don't even like using that phrase 09:44.760 --> 09:47.240 because I think it diminishes what it actually is. 09:47.860 --> 09:50.660 American boys, young men, 09:51.140 --> 09:53.400 dying in the deserts 09:53.400 --> 09:57.680 to get land for people that are not their own. 09:58.200 --> 10:00.000 Think about how fucking evil that is. 10:00.200 --> 10:03.260 And then on top of that, we pay for it. 10:03.260 --> 10:07.200 So even if you don't have a friend or son or yourself 10:07.200 --> 10:09.760 that has gone and fought and risked everything 10:09.760 --> 10:11.240 in the deserts, 10:11.240 --> 10:14.040 you and I and every other American who pays taxes 10:14.040 --> 10:16.160 has funded this madness, 10:16.440 --> 10:20.300 has funded this project of expansionism, of imperialism, 10:20.480 --> 10:21.980 and to add insult to injury, 10:22.240 --> 10:25.240 it's framed as being somehow to our benefit 10:25.240 --> 10:27.500 that we have to get cheap oil. 10:27.960 --> 10:29.400 It has never been about the oil. 10:29.660 --> 10:32.200 I've seen zero evidence that our cost of living 10:32.200 --> 10:34.120 has declined over the past 30 years, 10:34.740 --> 10:36.800 which syncs up with the 30 years of militarism 10:36.800 --> 10:37.480 in the Middle East. 10:37.580 --> 10:39.000 It's actually longer than 30 years now 10:39.000 --> 10:40.760 when you go back to Iraq War I. 10:41.140 --> 10:43.540 If you go back to the original interventions 10:43.540 --> 10:45.640 in the Middle East, you're talking 50-plus years. 10:46.080 --> 10:48.280 In that time frame, we've lost thousands of soldiers. 10:48.800 --> 10:50.500 We've blown trillions of dollars. 10:50.780 --> 10:52.100 Our national debt is approaching 10:52.100 --> 10:53.800 and will probably hit 40 trillion 10:53.800 --> 10:54.980 by the end of this year. 10:55.200 --> 10:58.160 40 fucking trillion dollars. 10:58.380 --> 10:59.600 The dollar has never been weaker. 11:00.000 --> 11:01.460 The cost of living has never been higher. 11:01.460 --> 11:03.500 It continues to spiral out of control. 11:03.660 --> 11:05.860 There doesn't seem to be any concern for it whatsoever. 11:06.100 --> 11:08.600 And yet we have American politicians, 11:08.960 --> 11:12.300 and just to make this more macro analysis, 11:12.700 --> 11:14.380 this is not about Mike Huckabee. 11:14.800 --> 11:16.100 I want to be very clear about that. 11:16.300 --> 11:18.240 As much as I don't like Mike Huckabee, 11:18.500 --> 11:19.600 it really isn't about him. 11:20.180 --> 11:24.360 It's that he is a stand-in for this phenomena 11:24.900 --> 11:26.600 that we have American politicians, 11:27.160 --> 11:29.680 some who are true believers like Mike Huckabee, 11:29.680 --> 11:31.900 and then the vast majority 11:31.900 --> 11:34.260 who don't give a fuck about what the Bible says 11:34.260 --> 11:38.560 who are doing this because they are under their thumbs, 11:38.900 --> 11:43.000 either under the legal framework of, say, APEC donations, 11:43.340 --> 11:45.580 even though I think it ought to be registered under FARA 11:45.580 --> 11:48.660 and probably should not be illegal at all 11:48.660 --> 11:51.720 or the more nefarious mechanisms for control, 11:51.720 --> 11:54.760 which in my opinion are a product of the Epstein operation, 11:54.900 --> 11:57.460 which we'll get into the Wexner testimony a little bit here. 11:57.460 --> 12:00.140 Israel goes to links that no other country, 12:00.240 --> 12:01.740 including ours goes to, 12:02.020 --> 12:03.960 in the middle of an urban war 12:03.960 --> 12:08.640 and yet Israel ended up with fewer civilian deaths 12:08.640 --> 12:11.840 in an urban war than any urban war of record. 12:12.040 --> 12:14.040 You said you didn't know how many civilian deaths there were, 12:14.160 --> 12:14.920 so how can you say that? 12:14.920 --> 12:18.400 If you took Gaza's numbers, Hamas's numbers, 12:18.640 --> 12:19.220 you would still be. 12:19.260 --> 12:19.760 But you said you don't know what the numbers are. 12:19.940 --> 12:20.260 We don't. 12:20.260 --> 12:20.920 You just told me that. 12:21.040 --> 12:22.520 But how can you say it's a lower number? 12:22.820 --> 12:24.560 But if you took the numbers that they reported, 12:24.560 --> 12:27.760 which is like 50,000, 24,000, 25,000 of those 12:27.760 --> 12:30.100 were actual warriors, how many civilians? 12:30.400 --> 12:31.800 If you took all the numbers. 12:31.860 --> 12:34.520 I think the numbers range from 120 to 78. 12:34.820 --> 12:35.720 Those ones I just read. 12:35.820 --> 12:36.500 I don't know if that's real. 12:36.800 --> 12:37.820 I don't know either. 12:38.120 --> 12:38.800 I'm asking you. 12:38.940 --> 12:41.680 Yeah, and I'm telling you, those numbers I've not heard, 12:42.120 --> 12:42.860 have not read. 12:43.040 --> 12:45.040 The numbers that I think are more reportable 12:45.040 --> 12:46.700 are somewhere in the 60,000 range. 12:46.900 --> 12:48.280 Brief interjection before we get back 12:48.280 --> 12:49.400 to the completion of that clip. 12:49.860 --> 12:52.680 I looked it up and the most recent figures, 12:52.680 --> 12:55.540 the conservative figures are 70 to 80,000 12:55.540 --> 12:59.600 in terms of overall fatalities from the war in Gaza 12:59.600 --> 13:01.240 so far on the Palestinian side. 13:01.280 --> 13:02.900 As I said, those are conservative estimates 13:02.900 --> 13:05.620 and those include both military combatants 13:05.620 --> 13:06.680 as well as innocent civilians. 13:07.340 --> 13:09.600 By my research, the conservative figure 13:09.600 --> 13:13.680 for civilian casualties as of now is about 45,000. 13:14.160 --> 13:16.240 So Huckabee makes this, in my opinion, 13:16.620 --> 13:17.400 pretty wild claim. 13:17.720 --> 13:19.820 He says that despite all of the criticisms 13:19.820 --> 13:21.300 that the Israeli military 13:21.300 --> 13:22.600 or the IDF has received, 13:23.220 --> 13:24.880 it's really unfounded 13:24.880 --> 13:27.900 because given the amount of precautions they take, 13:28.200 --> 13:31.680 in fact, this is the most moral army on the planet, 13:32.020 --> 13:35.560 one that is pretty universally being condemned for genocide. 13:35.940 --> 13:36.940 But setting that aside, 13:37.080 --> 13:38.340 I'm not interested in that debate at all. 13:38.720 --> 13:42.340 The claim he's making is that not only are they very moral 13:42.340 --> 13:43.400 and not committing war crimes, 13:43.480 --> 13:44.800 but in fact, they are the most moral. 13:45.140 --> 13:48.140 In fact, they are more moral than our troops, 13:48.140 --> 13:50.880 the country that he allegedly represents, 13:51.320 --> 13:52.880 which obviously sets Tucker off. 13:52.980 --> 13:54.800 But I did some quick math on this 13:54.800 --> 13:55.640 because I was like, 13:55.920 --> 13:57.040 well, maybe he's right. 13:57.400 --> 13:59.240 Maybe this is the least civilian casualties 13:59.240 --> 14:00.700 that we've seen in a war like this. 14:01.240 --> 14:02.120 It's not, though. 14:02.400 --> 14:04.320 It only took me a minute to find out. 14:04.740 --> 14:05.200 So get this, 14:05.540 --> 14:08.980 the 20 years of war that the United States fought 14:08.980 --> 14:09.580 in Afghanistan, 14:09.960 --> 14:13.240 the estimated civilian casualties are about 45,000. 14:13.240 --> 14:17.660 So a 20 year war had the same civilian casualties 14:18.160 --> 14:20.540 as a two and a half year war in Gaza. 14:20.780 --> 14:22.400 Now, it gets way worse than that, though, 14:22.440 --> 14:24.060 because he may argue, well, 14:24.180 --> 14:29.020 the figures I saw it was 44,000 and 45,000 is more. 14:29.460 --> 14:32.160 Okay, okay, Mike, let's do a per capita analysis 14:32.160 --> 14:33.160 because they like to do that, right? 14:33.260 --> 14:34.540 They like to do per capita analysis 14:34.540 --> 14:36.140 when it comes to October 7th. 14:36.180 --> 14:37.980 It's like, well, let's do per capita. 14:38.660 --> 14:42.640 Afghanistan has, or had in 2002 before the war began, 14:43.020 --> 14:44.620 20 million people living there. 14:44.940 --> 14:46.800 Gaza had 2.1 million. 14:47.200 --> 14:49.280 So just round numbers say 10x. 14:49.760 --> 14:51.720 So you would imagine if we're talking about 14:51.720 --> 14:54.200 the same level of recklessness or more recklessness, 14:54.500 --> 14:58.360 you would have 10x the amount of casualties in Afghanistan. 14:58.940 --> 15:02.180 No, they had the same amount over 20 years. 15:02.620 --> 15:05.220 So a population one tenth the size 15:05.800 --> 15:09.300 had the same amount of civilian casualties 15:10.020 --> 15:12.700 in one eighth the amount of time. 15:13.000 --> 15:15.780 So most rational sane people would conclude 15:15.780 --> 15:20.620 that in fact there was 10x the amount of civilian casualties 15:20.620 --> 15:23.000 in the war in Gaza versus the United States war 15:23.000 --> 15:23.640 in Afghanistan. 15:24.860 --> 15:26.180 Facts are tough, though. 15:26.440 --> 15:27.820 Hold on, you just once again 15:28.400 --> 15:30.160 said that the IDF is more humane 15:30.160 --> 15:31.260 than the United States military. 15:31.580 --> 15:32.320 You just said that. 15:32.320 --> 15:34.600 You said in Iraq and Afghanistan, 15:34.840 --> 15:37.100 the US military killed more civilians 15:37.100 --> 15:38.440 than the IDF did in Gaza. 15:38.620 --> 15:39.940 You just told me, I never heard that before. 15:40.500 --> 15:42.380 And my question is how do you know that? 15:42.480 --> 15:43.080 What are those numbers? 15:43.560 --> 15:45.240 And I'm trying to explain to you 15:45.640 --> 15:48.280 that there were extraordinary efforts 15:48.840 --> 15:49.920 to keep the number of flight. 15:49.920 --> 15:50.760 You don't know the numbers, do you? 15:51.240 --> 15:52.640 I think there were tens of thousands. 15:52.900 --> 15:53.740 I'll get them for you. 15:54.040 --> 15:54.820 Well, you brought it up. 15:54.920 --> 15:56.100 That's the only reason I'm pushing you. 15:56.160 --> 15:57.840 Yeah, but you, I'm wearing a flag. 15:58.080 --> 15:59.120 I've worked for a country 15:59.120 --> 16:01.560 and you pretended or alleged 16:02.120 --> 16:03.880 that somehow I'm not loyal to this 16:03.880 --> 16:04.240 and that I'm criticizing my own country. 16:04.240 --> 16:06.280 You just said they did a better job 16:06.280 --> 16:09.380 than the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan. 16:09.680 --> 16:11.000 And I said, what are the numbers? 16:11.260 --> 16:12.280 And you said, I don't know. 16:12.980 --> 16:15.400 So on what basis are you making the claim 16:15.400 --> 16:17.340 that the IDF in Gaza 16:17.960 --> 16:19.340 spared more civilians 16:19.340 --> 16:21.680 than the US Army and Marine Corps did 16:22.200 --> 16:23.420 in Afghanistan and Iraq? 16:23.600 --> 16:24.520 Why are you saying that? 16:24.980 --> 16:26.680 Like, on what basis are you saying that? 16:27.080 --> 16:28.660 From the conversations that I've had 16:28.660 --> 16:29.900 with the people who fought there 16:29.900 --> 16:32.360 and I don't have the exact numbers for you. 16:32.520 --> 16:33.880 So while we were finishing out that clip, 16:34.020 --> 16:35.140 I looked it up and in fact, 16:35.640 --> 16:36.240 drum roll please, 16:37.420 --> 16:40.760 15,000 civilian deaths in Ukraine. 16:41.080 --> 16:41.820 And you may be thinking, 16:42.260 --> 16:43.860 well, maybe the population of Ukraine 16:43.860 --> 16:46.040 is just significantly smaller than Gaza. 16:46.820 --> 16:48.980 I'm sure none of you are dumb enough to think that. 16:49.320 --> 16:51.600 No, the population of Ukraine 16:51.600 --> 16:53.040 prior to Russia's invasion 16:53.040 --> 16:55.620 was over 40 million people 16:55.620 --> 16:58.480 and there has been 15,000 civilian casualties. 16:59.100 --> 17:01.320 Now, I'm not trying to undersell any of that. 17:01.500 --> 17:02.260 As far as I'm concerned, 17:02.420 --> 17:04.460 every civilian death in a war is a tragedy. 17:04.760 --> 17:06.460 So let's just make that very clear. 17:06.760 --> 17:09.280 My point is that the two wars that I've looked up, 17:09.360 --> 17:10.120 actually I looked up three. 17:10.380 --> 17:12.260 It does appear that he's right about the war in Iraq 17:12.260 --> 17:14.200 because of the vast, you know, 17:14.240 --> 17:15.600 shock and awe of the bombing campaigns 17:15.600 --> 17:17.380 that the United States did in Iraq. 17:17.660 --> 17:20.140 There was immense civilian casualties in Iraq. 17:20.320 --> 17:23.000 But the point is that I only looked up three war, 17:23.140 --> 17:24.320 three modern wars 17:24.320 --> 17:28.260 and two of those three disprove Huckabee's claims. 17:28.620 --> 17:29.580 So why does this matter? 17:30.100 --> 17:32.900 Well, because my Huckabee is supposed to be like the top envoy 17:33.520 --> 17:35.500 on behalf of the United States 17:35.960 --> 17:37.580 in our relationship to Israel 17:37.580 --> 17:40.900 and he is lying through his teeth 17:41.440 --> 17:43.680 about the reality of that war. 17:43.820 --> 17:45.260 And this is so much more egregious 17:45.260 --> 17:46.700 than just being diplomatic. 17:47.140 --> 17:48.240 I mean, he could certainly say, 17:48.420 --> 17:51.600 look, there's been way too many civilian casualties in Gaza 17:51.600 --> 17:52.660 and it's a tragedy. 17:52.660 --> 17:53.840 And I really wish, 17:53.880 --> 17:56.100 I really wish Hamas hadn't started that war. 17:56.400 --> 17:58.680 You know, that would be like kind of the softest way 17:58.680 --> 17:59.580 that you could sell this. 17:59.880 --> 18:00.920 He's not doing that. 18:01.340 --> 18:03.740 He is carrying overt lies 18:03.740 --> 18:07.160 and talking points on behalf of Israel. 18:07.540 --> 18:08.420 And why does this matter? 18:08.840 --> 18:10.220 Because this is pervasive, 18:10.660 --> 18:11.840 not just in our government, 18:12.060 --> 18:15.080 but most specifically in the Trump administration. 18:16.060 --> 18:18.460 It's basically a requirement for the job. 18:18.460 --> 18:22.500 You have to be willing to lie on behalf of Israel 18:22.860 --> 18:24.860 if you want to be in the Trump administration. 18:25.480 --> 18:27.860 And if you understand the Epstein network, 18:27.980 --> 18:29.220 if you understand the Epstein operation, 18:29.460 --> 18:30.540 if you understand Les Wexner, 18:30.620 --> 18:33.020 if you understand how all of this played out 18:33.020 --> 18:35.440 and you understand Trump's relationship with that network, 18:35.680 --> 18:37.200 you have to ask yourself 18:37.600 --> 18:39.920 if there's a reason that that's a requirement. 18:40.040 --> 18:42.820 The French gave Lebanon its right to exist. 18:43.140 --> 18:44.400 Do they have a right to exist? 18:44.720 --> 18:45.040 Do they? 18:45.640 --> 18:46.340 Well, why not? 18:46.960 --> 18:48.500 Okay, so that's my, 18:48.720 --> 18:49.940 so every country- 18:49.940 --> 18:51.200 Does the US have a right to exist? 18:51.320 --> 18:51.980 I'm asking you. 18:52.140 --> 18:53.040 Okay, and I'm telling you, 18:53.040 --> 18:54.660 I think the US has a right to exist. 18:54.840 --> 18:57.300 Does anyone question whether we have a right to exist? 18:57.640 --> 19:00.720 I don't, yeah, but I, of course, I'm for America. 19:01.220 --> 19:01.680 Good for you. 19:02.120 --> 19:06.220 But so every current country on the map 19:06.220 --> 19:09.340 has the same right to exist that Israel has. 19:09.540 --> 19:10.140 Is that what you're saying? 19:10.380 --> 19:11.460 I think what we're saying is 19:11.460 --> 19:13.640 that when a country has established itself 19:14.220 --> 19:16.120 and it is following international law, 19:16.660 --> 19:20.500 it has been deemed by numerous bodies 19:21.120 --> 19:24.360 that it is indigenous to its homeland as Israel is. 19:24.940 --> 19:25.920 This is its homeland. 19:26.080 --> 19:28.740 It goes back 3,800 years to the time of Abraham. 19:29.740 --> 19:30.800 It's not that- 19:30.800 --> 19:31.080 Well, hold on. 19:31.220 --> 19:33.640 So you're saying there's the modern legal framework. 19:34.040 --> 19:35.840 And so you said a country that abides 19:35.840 --> 19:37.720 by international law has a right to exist. 19:38.120 --> 19:41.400 I would say that that is a part of its existence. 19:41.400 --> 19:42.860 Would it be, would the inverse be true 19:42.860 --> 19:44.980 that a country that does not abide by international law 19:44.980 --> 19:46.240 forfeits its right to exist? 19:46.920 --> 19:49.220 Not necessarily if it has the capacity to stay 19:49.220 --> 19:50.960 and make its case known. 19:51.160 --> 19:53.440 Now, thanks to Huckabee's filibuster there, 19:53.760 --> 19:56.660 Tucker never got to use his sledgehammer point 19:56.660 --> 19:57.660 that he was working towards. 19:57.800 --> 19:58.920 So I'm going to complete it for him 19:58.920 --> 20:00.680 because it was worth doing. 20:00.880 --> 20:02.360 And I know exactly where he was going with it. 20:02.880 --> 20:05.580 Huckabee is arguing that Israel has a right to exist 20:05.580 --> 20:06.740 or a right to that land 20:07.340 --> 20:09.660 because they function under international law. 20:10.260 --> 20:11.920 Well, oops. 20:12.320 --> 20:14.120 Really, really bad claim there 20:14.120 --> 20:15.860 because over the past three years 20:15.860 --> 20:17.260 since the war on Gaza began, 20:17.460 --> 20:21.320 over 200 human rights organizations have come out 20:21.320 --> 20:26.000 and condemned Israel for violations of international law 20:26.420 --> 20:26.820 explicitly. 20:27.420 --> 20:28.660 So obviously that's the point 20:28.660 --> 20:30.060 that Tucker was going to hammer him with. 20:30.180 --> 20:31.280 He never got the opportunity to. 20:31.680 --> 20:33.940 That would have been a holy shit moment. 20:34.220 --> 20:36.740 So unfortunately, I'm the only one that gets to do it. 20:36.780 --> 20:38.000 I wish the world had got to hear this, 20:38.060 --> 20:39.440 but now you guys do. 20:39.440 --> 20:41.240 At least the other point that he makes 20:41.240 --> 20:43.380 and I find absolutely fascinating is he says 20:43.380 --> 20:45.860 that they have a right to this land 20:45.860 --> 20:48.080 because they've been there for 3,800 years. 20:48.260 --> 20:49.280 Well, obviously that's false 20:49.280 --> 20:52.180 because that land was possessed by Arabs 20:52.180 --> 20:55.620 or largely Arabs for a very long time by a conquest. 20:55.820 --> 20:56.560 But setting that aside, 20:56.620 --> 20:59.220 he's saying that 3,800 years 20:59.220 --> 21:00.740 they have been on that land. 21:01.020 --> 21:01.740 Okay, that's false, 21:01.840 --> 21:03.540 but just pretend that it's true, right? 21:04.080 --> 21:04.280 Okay. 21:05.000 --> 21:06.760 Homo sapiens, human beings have been around 21:06.760 --> 21:09.380 for 300,000 years. 21:10.140 --> 21:12.380 So my argument to him would be 21:12.380 --> 21:16.440 if we can find someone who was on that land mass 21:16.760 --> 21:19.020 who can demonstrate that they have lineage 21:19.020 --> 21:20.840 that goes back to that land mass 21:20.840 --> 21:24.900 prior to 3,800 years ago, say 4,000 years ago. 21:25.200 --> 21:26.840 We got some Egyptian bloodline 21:26.840 --> 21:28.080 that demonstrates that they were there. 21:28.460 --> 21:29.760 Is it now theirs? 21:30.260 --> 21:31.780 And going through that logical progression, 21:31.920 --> 21:33.660 you realize how absurd this argument is. 21:33.660 --> 21:36.500 I mean, you can't argue that a land 21:36.500 --> 21:39.560 that was possessed by people that you don't know, 21:39.780 --> 21:41.440 you've never known, you don't even know the names of. 21:41.540 --> 21:43.860 I don't know, obviously we all have lineage 21:43.860 --> 21:46.000 that goes back that far 4,000 years ago, 21:46.020 --> 21:47.300 but like, do we know them? 21:47.760 --> 21:50.940 Like, unless you have an incredible capacity 21:50.940 --> 21:52.740 for genealogical trees, 21:52.980 --> 21:54.060 you don't know who the fuck they were. 21:54.260 --> 21:55.600 No, none of us know who they were. 21:55.880 --> 21:57.800 Most of us don't even know where they were living. 21:58.040 --> 22:00.060 But for one group of people, 22:00.660 --> 22:03.860 that is as good as a quick claim deed. 22:04.200 --> 22:04.980 They own it. 22:05.280 --> 22:06.840 And given that America was formulated 22:06.840 --> 22:08.100 through conquest as well, 22:08.260 --> 22:10.620 it's just as absurd to say that, 22:10.840 --> 22:15.040 I don't know, the Navajo Indians now have a full legal right 22:15.040 --> 22:17.420 to my home in San Diego. 22:18.300 --> 22:19.820 Like, what are we even talking about here? 22:20.120 --> 22:22.560 But that's how, that's what this argument is. 22:22.880 --> 22:25.080 It's just that it's actually more ludicrous. 22:25.500 --> 22:28.000 The Native Americans have a far better claim to that 22:28.000 --> 22:30.620 because it's only 300 years ago or 400 years ago. 22:31.000 --> 22:33.600 This is 4,000 years ago, 22:33.720 --> 22:35.140 and they're making the same argument. 22:35.400 --> 22:39.720 But it would never be applicable to any other group of people 22:39.720 --> 22:41.340 and everyone would laugh it out of their room. 22:41.380 --> 22:44.140 But for some reason, this claim is taken seriously. 22:44.460 --> 22:46.680 And obviously it's because of the Bible. 22:47.180 --> 22:48.560 It's because of the worldview, 22:48.820 --> 22:51.020 the framework of Christian Zionism. 22:51.220 --> 22:52.500 In the entirety of the world, 22:52.560 --> 22:54.300 there are about 16 million Jews total. 22:55.420 --> 22:57.120 And 8 million of them live here. 22:57.420 --> 23:00.440 The rest live mostly in New York or South Florida 23:00.440 --> 23:01.780 and a few other places. 23:02.040 --> 23:02.240 Okay. 23:02.920 --> 23:05.640 So this is a small population of people. 23:07.500 --> 23:11.080 They have connection to this land historically, 23:11.340 --> 23:12.960 biblically, do they? 23:13.440 --> 23:14.180 Yes, they do. 23:14.560 --> 23:16.560 If Beebe's family, 23:16.760 --> 23:18.100 we know they lived in Eastern Europe. 23:18.260 --> 23:19.940 There's no evidence they ever lived here. 23:20.180 --> 23:21.260 He's not religious. 23:21.620 --> 23:24.980 But in what sense do you have his family tree now? 23:25.340 --> 23:25.580 We don't. 23:25.580 --> 23:25.920 Do you? 23:26.240 --> 23:26.900 He doesn't. 23:27.260 --> 23:27.900 So no one does. 23:28.000 --> 23:28.500 That's the point. 23:28.720 --> 23:31.180 So how do we know that he's any connection to this land at all? 23:31.440 --> 23:33.180 And if there has been a practice of Judaism 23:33.660 --> 23:36.360 and a connection to the language, the Bible, the land? 23:36.660 --> 23:38.420 His ancestors didn't. 23:38.680 --> 23:41.400 He doesn't practice Judaism in any rigorous way. 23:42.140 --> 23:43.360 His ancestors didn't live here. 23:43.440 --> 23:44.380 They didn't speak the language 23:44.380 --> 23:46.020 and there's no evidence they ever lived here. 23:46.120 --> 23:47.520 So on what basis does he have a right to be here? 23:47.520 --> 23:48.300 Very much speaks. 23:48.480 --> 23:49.380 It's a big question. 23:49.500 --> 23:50.420 A lot hangs on this. 23:50.460 --> 23:51.980 It's not some theoretical thing like, 23:52.100 --> 23:54.260 oh, do my grandparents do this or do that? 23:54.260 --> 23:55.640 It's like, no, we have a right to be here 23:55.640 --> 23:56.800 because my ancestors were here. 23:56.860 --> 23:57.800 Okay, how do we know they were here? 24:01.500 --> 24:05.700 I'm totally unable to process what you're trying to get at. 24:05.880 --> 24:07.200 We're not too far into the new year. 24:07.240 --> 24:09.300 So I think it's fair to still look at it 24:09.300 --> 24:12.020 through the new year's lens or the resolution's lens. 24:12.120 --> 24:13.480 And I just wanted to encourage you guys, 24:13.640 --> 24:15.900 if you haven't already, to make sure, 24:16.040 --> 24:18.020 especially if you've got a young family at home, 24:18.280 --> 24:19.800 to look into a life insurance policy. 24:19.800 --> 24:22.400 As you guys 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and it's such an interesting kind of shape-shifting argument 25:31.160 --> 25:32.860 where it's either the Bible 25:32.860 --> 25:36.340 or it's some sort of fucking bastardized version 25:36.340 --> 25:37.260 of property rights. 25:37.700 --> 25:40.880 Or it's like basically like a reparations argument, 25:41.000 --> 25:43.120 which you'll see I'm not exaggerating 25:43.120 --> 25:44.960 or being hyperbolic when it comes to the reparations 25:44.960 --> 25:45.880 side of this argument. 25:46.080 --> 25:48.880 Or it's international law or it's might-makes-right 25:50.200 --> 25:53.180 basically whatever argument he can make 25:53.180 --> 25:56.940 no matter how full of holes each and every one of them are 25:56.940 --> 25:59.120 other than probably the might-makes-right argument 25:59.120 --> 26:01.600 which I don't find to be very moral or Christian, 26:02.140 --> 26:06.120 but whatever, he's going to just throw everything at you 26:06.120 --> 26:08.700 because all that matters is at the end of the day 26:08.700 --> 26:11.480 you support, stand with, 26:11.920 --> 26:14.900 aka are willing to fight, fund and die for 26:14.900 --> 26:16.940 a country that is not your own. 26:16.940 --> 26:21.000 That is the entire functional world view 26:21.000 --> 26:24.620 of Christian Zionists in political office. 26:24.880 --> 26:27.620 Should Israel be expected to even pay one penny 26:27.620 --> 26:29.400 to rebuild Gaza at this point? 26:30.820 --> 26:31.960 Absolutely not. 26:32.480 --> 26:33.480 Absolutely not. 26:33.600 --> 26:34.640 And I'll tell you, if anything, 26:35.040 --> 26:37.000 there ought to be reparations to Israel 26:37.000 --> 26:39.940 for the extraordinary fight 26:39.940 --> 26:41.680 that they have had to conduct 26:41.680 --> 26:43.260 to get their hostages back. 26:43.420 --> 26:44.200 See, I wasn't lying. 26:44.200 --> 26:47.920 Not only does he have an obvious primary loyalty 26:47.920 --> 26:50.020 to a country that is not his own, 26:50.280 --> 26:52.500 but additionally, he believes that 26:52.500 --> 26:54.560 they should be paid reparations. 26:55.420 --> 26:57.800 The Israelis should be paid reparations 26:57.800 --> 26:59.840 for their war in Gaza. 27:00.420 --> 27:02.200 Holy shit. 27:02.960 --> 27:04.900 And this gets so much more appalling 27:04.900 --> 27:07.500 when you realize that just yesterday, 27:08.020 --> 27:13.040 Donald Trump announced 10 billion US dollars 27:13.040 --> 27:15.760 that are gonna be going to the rebuilding of Gaza. 27:16.360 --> 27:19.060 Well, our ambassador to Israel says 27:19.060 --> 27:21.540 that they should pay not a penny 27:21.540 --> 27:25.600 to rebuild the tiny sliver of land 27:25.600 --> 27:28.140 that they absolutely fucking demolished 27:28.140 --> 27:29.340 over the past two and a half years. 27:29.600 --> 27:30.600 What is happening? 27:30.900 --> 27:33.040 I often say the reason they hate Israel 27:33.040 --> 27:34.660 because Israel is small 27:34.660 --> 27:36.640 and Israel is close to where they are. 27:36.840 --> 27:38.480 And so I believe standing with Israel 27:38.480 --> 27:40.640 stands with a country that largely shares 27:40.640 --> 27:42.280 the same values that we do. 27:42.700 --> 27:44.260 Does that mean I think we should put the interest 27:44.260 --> 27:45.340 of America over Israel? 27:45.640 --> 27:48.680 No, but I haven't seen an instance where that is the case. 27:48.680 --> 27:49.920 Does that mean we should put the interest 27:49.920 --> 27:50.980 of America over Israel? 27:51.420 --> 27:51.520 No. 27:51.760 --> 27:52.840 No, does that mean we should put the interest 27:52.840 --> 27:53.840 of Israel over America? 27:53.860 --> 27:54.560 Okay, I want to make sure. 27:54.760 --> 27:56.080 If I misspoke, I apologize. 27:56.380 --> 27:57.180 That's a friend of the show, 27:57.340 --> 27:59.560 the poor sign Randy Fine saying 28:00.000 --> 28:01.380 does that mean we should put 28:01.380 --> 28:03.480 the interest of America over Israel? 28:03.880 --> 28:04.060 No. 28:04.780 --> 28:06.940 And thank God PBD caught it. 28:07.760 --> 28:09.260 Yeah, that's a Freudian slip 28:09.260 --> 28:10.280 if ever there was one, huh? 28:10.980 --> 28:12.400 I mean, and this is the problem 28:12.400 --> 28:14.060 is that there are 28:14.060 --> 28:16.160 an enormous amount 28:16.160 --> 28:17.580 of American politicians 28:18.260 --> 28:20.620 that no bullshit believe that. 28:20.960 --> 28:21.580 Now, as I said, 28:21.740 --> 28:23.500 I don't think most of them believe that 28:23.500 --> 28:24.900 on some sort of deep 28:24.900 --> 28:27.280 philosophical or ideological basis, 28:27.280 --> 28:29.440 but rather the power structure 28:29.440 --> 28:30.540 is set up in a way 28:30.540 --> 28:31.980 that it incentivizes 28:31.980 --> 28:34.480 people who get into those positions of power 28:34.480 --> 28:36.760 if they want to maintain those positions of power. 28:36.900 --> 28:38.260 They have no choice 28:38.260 --> 28:40.020 but to adopt that worldview 28:40.020 --> 28:41.580 and progress it. 28:42.260 --> 28:42.860 You cannot, 28:43.260 --> 28:45.340 you literally cannot be in DC 28:45.340 --> 28:46.700 for an extended period of time 28:46.700 --> 28:49.620 if you're not willing to take that same position 28:49.620 --> 28:51.400 as Randy Fine, 28:51.840 --> 28:53.360 Lindsey Graham, Rubio, 28:53.640 --> 28:54.500 the list goes on and on. 28:54.580 --> 28:55.440 Obviously, Huckabee 28:55.440 --> 28:56.520 and unfortunately, 28:57.120 --> 28:57.880 Donald Trump too. 28:58.140 --> 29:00.340 A joint venture between Israel and the United States 29:00.340 --> 29:02.260 to help degrade the capability 29:02.260 --> 29:03.240 of the Iranian 29:03.240 --> 29:05.200 Ayatollah to kill its people 29:05.200 --> 29:07.000 would be welcome news in Iran. 29:07.000 --> 29:08.600 Is that already underway? 29:09.120 --> 29:10.040 Well, there's planning for that. 29:10.260 --> 29:11.600 The decision had been made, 29:11.700 --> 29:13.720 but all these ships are not coming here 29:13.720 --> 29:15.140 because it's nice this time of year. 29:15.580 --> 29:17.140 Does the U.S. have a favored candidate? 29:17.340 --> 29:18.520 Are we talking about Reza Pavlavi? 29:20.020 --> 29:21.040 Because he's around quite a bit. 29:21.140 --> 29:22.320 Yeah, I like him fine, 29:22.360 --> 29:23.840 but it's up to the Iranian people. 29:24.540 --> 29:25.920 Don't get ahead of yourself. 29:26.720 --> 29:28.840 The day after the regime falls 29:28.840 --> 29:29.760 will be complicated. 29:30.120 --> 29:31.820 We don't do day after well 29:31.820 --> 29:33.040 in the U.S. 29:33.040 --> 29:34.920 That's what you got to quit saying 29:34.920 --> 29:36.480 we, it's not we, it's them. 29:37.300 --> 29:38.480 It's not my job 29:38.480 --> 29:39.980 to construct a new Iran. 29:40.500 --> 29:42.740 It's my job to give them the opportunity 29:42.740 --> 29:44.220 to construct a new Iran. 29:44.620 --> 29:46.500 This is the entire neo-conservative 29:46.500 --> 29:49.020 worldview that I'm sure you and I 29:49.020 --> 29:51.080 and basically everyone that listens to this show 29:51.080 --> 29:51.980 despise. 29:52.540 --> 29:54.960 I mean, this is what we wanted so desperately to get away from. 29:55.440 --> 29:56.040 And unfortunately, 29:56.620 --> 29:58.800 while Rand Paul and Thomas Massey 29:58.800 --> 29:59.940 have been sidelined 29:59.940 --> 30:01.260 and MTG has been ousted, 30:02.040 --> 30:03.120 in their stead, 30:03.120 --> 30:05.260 we now have these fucking 30:05.260 --> 30:07.320 demons that are circulating Donald Trump 30:07.320 --> 30:08.800 and in his ear and obviously 30:08.800 --> 30:11.160 winning the day when it comes to our foreign policy 30:11.160 --> 30:12.980 as we have the largest 30:12.980 --> 30:15.120 contingent of U.S. military might 30:15.120 --> 30:16.680 sitting in the Middle East 30:16.680 --> 30:19.300 prepared for what looks like a very, 30:19.340 --> 30:20.820 very major war. In fact, 30:20.900 --> 30:23.260 the largest buildup of U.S. 30:23.560 --> 30:24.740 troops and munitions 30:24.740 --> 30:27.040 since 2003, the Iraq war. 30:27.260 --> 30:28.620 But here's the obvious 30:28.900 --> 30:30.840 point to be made about Lindsey Graham's 30:30.840 --> 30:32.320 bullshit diatribe is that 30:32.840 --> 30:34.860 he's saying, we don't know 30:34.860 --> 30:36.860 what happens after the 30:36.860 --> 30:38.800 Ayatollah Falls. It's not up 30:38.800 --> 30:40.860 to us. Basically, his 30:40.860 --> 30:42.240 entire worldview is 30:42.620 --> 30:44.020 we just break things 30:44.020 --> 30:46.580 and then other people fix them 30:46.580 --> 30:48.840 and we'll see. We'll see how it works out. 30:49.240 --> 30:50.920 The truth is that's not how it plays out 30:50.920 --> 30:53.000 is that as soon as we've broken 30:53.000 --> 30:55.180 a country, then our corporations, 30:55.460 --> 30:56.980 most of which are campaign donors 30:56.980 --> 30:58.760 to Lindsey Graham go in there and start 30:58.760 --> 31:00.540 to pilfer. There's obviously 31:00.540 --> 31:02.720 an instantaneous power vacuum that's created 31:02.720 --> 31:05.100 which is rife for corruption 31:05.100 --> 31:06.780 and civil war 31:06.780 --> 31:08.980 and bloodshed immediately 31:08.980 --> 31:10.880 after. And then the point that he never 31:10.880 --> 31:12.840 makes, which is obviously the key point 31:12.840 --> 31:14.540 is that this is not 31:14.540 --> 31:16.740 about liberating the 31:16.740 --> 31:18.700 Iranian people. It's 31:18.700 --> 31:20.460 not about liberating the 31:20.460 --> 31:22.660 Libyans or the Iraqis 31:22.660 --> 31:24.560 or the Afghanis. They're not 31:24.560 --> 31:26.720 concerned about women's 31:26.720 --> 31:28.180 rights or gay rights or what 31:28.720 --> 31:30.520 none of that is real 31:30.520 --> 31:32.480 and we all know it's not real 31:32.480 --> 31:33.820 the primary 31:34.620 --> 31:36.140 motivating factor when it comes to 31:36.140 --> 31:38.300 Lindsey Graham and Huckabee and everybody else 31:38.300 --> 31:40.760 in our government, when it comes to our foreign policy 31:40.760 --> 31:42.860 is that we topple these nations 31:42.860 --> 31:44.420 and we don't care what comes next 31:44.420 --> 31:46.360 because that's the clean break 31:46.360 --> 31:48.640 strategy. That's exactly what 31:48.640 --> 31:50.440 it is. That if you destroy 31:50.440 --> 31:52.840 Israel's enemies in that chaos 31:52.840 --> 31:54.280 it makes it much harder 31:54.280 --> 31:56.280 for them to fight back against Israel 31:56.280 --> 31:58.640 so they don't because they can't 31:58.640 --> 32:00.340 because they're so dysfunctional. 32:00.340 --> 32:02.420 That is the clean break doctrine. 32:02.780 --> 32:04.560 That's what we've been doing 32:04.560 --> 32:06.480 you and I have been funding 32:06.480 --> 32:08.500 and fighting on behalf of that 32:08.500 --> 32:10.320 plan for a nation which is 32:10.320 --> 32:12.500 not our own for 35 32:12.500 --> 32:14.160 fucking years now. 32:14.380 --> 32:16.160 So people go like, if this isn't about 32:16.160 --> 32:18.520 some sort of deep-seated anti-Semitism, why are you so upset? 32:19.060 --> 32:20.260 Oh, I don't know because 32:20.260 --> 32:22.460 the fate of my nation 32:22.460 --> 32:24.300 if not the fate of the world and certainly 32:24.300 --> 32:26.480 the fate of my children when it comes 32:26.480 --> 32:28.540 to economic prosperity or security 32:28.540 --> 32:30.340 or safety are all predicated 32:30.340 --> 32:32.460 off of this question. Are we 32:32.460 --> 32:34.480 going to ever, ever 32:34.480 --> 32:36.320 look after them? Or are we 32:36.320 --> 32:38.280 going to continue to sacrifice their future 32:38.280 --> 32:40.160 on behalf of a people who are not 32:40.160 --> 32:42.220 our own? And that is 32:42.220 --> 32:44.320 the biggest question and unfortunately 32:44.320 --> 32:46.240 the answer is no 32:46.240 --> 32:47.980 we're not going to stop. 32:48.360 --> 32:49.980 We are going to continue down this 32:49.980 --> 32:52.060 unbelievably God-forsaken 32:52.060 --> 32:54.360 and in my opinion, satanic 32:54.360 --> 32:56.240 path of sacrificing 32:56.240 --> 32:58.480 the best amongst us 32:58.480 --> 33:00.600 on behalf of Bibi Netanyahu 33:00.600 --> 33:02.000 who as far as I'm concerned 33:02.000 --> 33:03.720 is one of the worst amongst us. 33:03.920 --> 33:04.940 And why do we do that? 33:05.600 --> 33:07.880 Well, aside from the potential 33:07.880 --> 33:10.060 for blackmail and obviously the campaign 33:10.060 --> 33:11.680 contributions and just 33:11.680 --> 33:13.580 cut and checks the other angle 33:13.580 --> 33:15.980 if John Kiriakou is to be believed 33:15.980 --> 33:17.780 he said this to Julian Dore. 33:17.780 --> 33:19.540 The reason though I'm told 33:19.540 --> 33:21.800 that Donald Trump decided 33:21.800 --> 33:23.660 to bomb Iran was 33:23.660 --> 33:25.500 that the Israelis said 33:25.500 --> 33:27.820 for the first time if you don't 33:27.820 --> 33:29.840 bomb Iran to take out these deep 33:29.840 --> 33:31.600 bunkers we're going to use 33:31.600 --> 33:32.540 nuclear weapons 33:33.540 --> 33:35.680 and they had never threatened that before 33:35.680 --> 33:37.640 and so Trump said 33:37.640 --> 33:39.680 bombing Iran might actually 33:39.680 --> 33:41.560 save us from the start 33:41.560 --> 33:43.860 of World War III if it keeps 33:43.860 --> 33:45.800 the Israelis from using nuclear weapons. 33:45.800 --> 33:47.400 So according to your source 33:47.400 --> 33:49.260 the Israelis told the president 33:49.260 --> 33:51.220 of the United States that if he did not 33:51.220 --> 33:53.340 use the United States military power 33:53.340 --> 33:55.320 to bomb the nuclear facilities in Iran 33:55.320 --> 33:57.500 Israel acting on its own 33:57.500 --> 33:59.240 would use nuclear weapons. 33:59.440 --> 34:01.300 Do you see why there's a problem 34:01.300 --> 34:02.220 with that statement, John? 34:02.720 --> 34:05.300 Because they've never admitted that they've had them. 34:05.600 --> 34:07.260 So you're telling me that they just admitted 34:07.260 --> 34:08.900 to the president of the United States 34:08.900 --> 34:11.480 that they have nuclear weapons and we still do not have them 34:11.480 --> 34:12.620 in the IAEA treaty. 34:12.620 --> 34:14.300 Now with all due respect to Julian Dory 34:14.300 --> 34:15.520 who I actually like a lot 34:16.260 --> 34:18.840 he's shown his age there and a little bit of youthful naivete. 34:19.220 --> 34:20.520 The big story is not 34:20.520 --> 34:22.640 that they acknowledge that they have nuclear weapons 34:22.640 --> 34:24.900 the big story is that they are blackmailing 34:24.900 --> 34:26.440 the president of the United States 34:26.440 --> 34:29.320 with the threat of using nuclear weapons 34:29.320 --> 34:30.600 if we don't 34:30.600 --> 34:31.840 fight a war for them. 34:32.440 --> 34:33.600 That's the big story. 34:33.900 --> 34:35.760 We all know that they have nuclear weapons. 34:35.880 --> 34:38.280 The big story is that we're going to go start 34:38.280 --> 34:39.960 a massive war 34:39.960 --> 34:41.420 to prevent them 34:41.960 --> 34:42.960 from basically 34:42.960 --> 34:45.540 via extortion or blackmail 34:45.540 --> 34:46.520 however you want to look at it 34:46.520 --> 34:48.380 and risk World War 3 34:48.380 --> 34:50.660 so that their top enemy 34:50.660 --> 34:53.520 is toppled. Holy shit. 34:53.860 --> 34:55.640 Now I'm going to give two constructive criticisms 34:55.640 --> 34:57.360 to Tucker Carlson 34:57.360 --> 34:58.940 and far be it for me to be giving him 34:58.940 --> 35:00.300 any sort of constructive criticism 35:00.300 --> 35:02.800 given that he's so unbelievably successful in this arena. 35:03.260 --> 35:04.600 However, I will say 35:04.600 --> 35:07.040 one thing that really disappointed me 35:07.040 --> 35:09.180 well first off kind of a minor error 35:09.180 --> 35:10.300 but a pretty major one actually 35:10.300 --> 35:12.820 is that he said that he believed 35:12.820 --> 35:14.760 or he had read that President Herzog 35:14.760 --> 35:16.000 was in the Epstein files. 35:16.480 --> 35:18.960 My understanding based off of my reading of the files 35:18.960 --> 35:20.600 is that the Herzog reference 35:20.600 --> 35:21.780 because it was just a last name 35:21.780 --> 35:24.340 he believes that it was the president of Israel 35:24.340 --> 35:25.780 the current president of Israel 35:25.780 --> 35:28.820 was on Epstein's Island. I don't believe that's true. 35:28.940 --> 35:30.120 I think he got that wrong 35:30.120 --> 35:32.260 and for him to bring that as 35:32.260 --> 35:34.760 a kind of skewering question 35:34.760 --> 35:37.220 against Mike Huckabee I think was a big, big mistake 35:37.220 --> 35:39.080 because it undermines his credibility 35:39.080 --> 35:40.060 when it comes to everything else. 35:40.280 --> 35:42.100 So just friendly advice 35:42.560 --> 35:44.320 do a little bit better due diligence before you 35:44.320 --> 35:46.460 do these interviews. I think that was a mistake 35:46.460 --> 35:48.400 but I think the other biggest 35:48.400 --> 35:50.420 kind of problem I have with Tucker 35:50.420 --> 35:52.140 broadly and I understand why he does it 35:52.140 --> 35:54.120 but he refuses 35:55.420 --> 35:56.300 because Huckabee 35:56.300 --> 35:59.020 every criticism that Tucker would levy 35:59.020 --> 36:00.600 he'd say we're 36:00.600 --> 36:02.580 sacrificing our children's future 36:02.580 --> 36:04.700 on behalf of a foreign country and I don't like it 36:04.700 --> 36:06.520 and then Huckabee 36:06.520 --> 36:08.080 his obvious response was 36:08.080 --> 36:10.080 well it sounds like you're criticizing 36:10.080 --> 36:12.940 Donald Trump. You think Donald Trump's done a bad job? 36:13.320 --> 36:14.600 You know and unfortunately 36:15.480 --> 36:16.660 Tucker whether it's 36:16.660 --> 36:18.200 because of his friendship or because 36:18.200 --> 36:19.900 he wants access to the White House 36:19.900 --> 36:22.240 or he's an insider or because his audience 36:22.240 --> 36:24.480 would have been in him some I'm sure some chunk of him 36:24.480 --> 36:26.280 would if he were to go down that path 36:26.280 --> 36:27.960 but the obvious truth is yeah 36:27.960 --> 36:29.520 and I'm sure Tucker feels that way 36:29.520 --> 36:30.980 that yes this is not just 36:31.340 --> 36:33.380 an Obama Bush Clinton 36:33.380 --> 36:34.980 Bush thing 36:34.980 --> 36:37.020 or a Biden thing. This is an 36:37.020 --> 36:39.460 every president in our lifetime thing 36:39.460 --> 36:41.160 and anybody who's being honest 36:41.160 --> 36:42.640 has to acknowledge that fact 36:43.300 --> 36:45.400 all of them carry water for this country 36:45.400 --> 36:47.260 all of them and I understand 36:47.260 --> 36:49.400 that the only way that you get any sort of action 36:49.400 --> 36:51.400 in your favor from 36:51.400 --> 36:53.540 Donald Trump is to be to ingratiate yourself 36:53.540 --> 36:55.180 to him and maybe that's what he's doing 36:55.180 --> 36:56.760 and maybe in private he does tell 36:56.760 --> 36:58.180 Donald Trump look 36:58.640 --> 37:00.180 he's doing the same thing that Charlie Kirk did 37:00.600 --> 37:02.680 this war in Iran it's a non-starter 37:02.680 --> 37:04.100 please please please don't do it 37:04.100 --> 37:06.740 and maybe by continuing to pretend 37:06.740 --> 37:08.760 as if everything Trump does is right 37:08.760 --> 37:10.720 he's able to have 37:10.720 --> 37:12.300 more leverage in those private conversations 37:12.300 --> 37:13.820 that's probably true but 37:13.820 --> 37:15.840 just from my vantage point 37:15.840 --> 37:18.060 someone who will never sit down with Trump 37:18.060 --> 37:19.800 because I have no interest in doing so 37:19.800 --> 37:21.680 and he certainly would have no interest in talking to me 37:21.680 --> 37:24.460 is that I would love for Tucker Carlson 37:24.460 --> 37:26.420 to just be honest about this because I think 37:26.420 --> 37:28.740 it leaves out the big picture 37:28.740 --> 37:30.380 the big picture being that 37:30.380 --> 37:32.980 it doesn't matter who's in the White House 37:32.980 --> 37:34.900 they all are at the mercy 37:34.900 --> 37:36.860 of Israel all of them 37:36.860 --> 37:38.120 and until that changes 37:38.120 --> 37:40.000 we simply don't have a country 37:40.000 --> 37:41.460 we certainly don't have a government 37:41.460 --> 37:42.840 and she told me 37:44.120 --> 37:46.740 she had talked to so many reporters 37:46.740 --> 37:48.240 in mainstream media I mean pretty much 37:48.240 --> 37:50.140 every outlet you can think of 37:50.140 --> 37:52.420 and they just would not tell her story 37:52.940 --> 37:54.400 she said as soon as I 37:54.400 --> 37:55.900 every time I would bring up Wexner 37:55.900 --> 37:57.220 they always cut it out 37:57.680 --> 37:59.960 and she told me Wexner's the head of the snake 37:59.960 --> 38:02.500 is what she said she said of this whole operation 38:02.500 --> 38:03.540 he's the head of the snake 38:04.860 --> 38:05.600 he's the guy 38:05.600 --> 38:07.040 he's the brains of this 38:07.040 --> 38:08.840 he's the guy that's coordinating this 38:08.840 --> 38:11.320 all from his mansions 38:12.160 --> 38:13.500 this is the guy in charge 38:14.400 --> 38:15.180 and essentially 38:15.740 --> 38:17.720 and I mean other people have said this 38:18.230 --> 38:20.260 Epstein was basically just like a project manager 38:20.260 --> 38:22.340 he was like mid-level management 38:22.340 --> 38:23.560 in terms of this scheme 38:23.560 --> 38:25.860 hard pivot let's talk about Les Wexner 38:25.860 --> 38:28.140 holy shit so I wanted to start off 38:28.140 --> 38:30.320 with the Whitney Webb interview with Tim Dillon 38:30.320 --> 38:32.080 from back in 2020 because 38:32.080 --> 38:34.360 it's prescient and it's very important 38:34.360 --> 38:36.180 before we look at the interview 38:36.180 --> 38:37.820 of Les Wexner 38:37.820 --> 38:39.620 Les Wexner for those that aren't familiar 38:39.620 --> 38:42.740 started the mega group back in the 1990s 38:42.740 --> 38:44.560 co-founded by Charles Bronfen 38:44.560 --> 38:46.120 and Les Wexner 38:46.120 --> 38:48.260 with the explicit goal of 38:48.260 --> 38:50.440 basically lobbying and creating 38:50.440 --> 38:52.320 leverage on behalf of the nation 38:52.320 --> 38:54.060 of Israel now Les Wexner 38:54.060 --> 38:56.340 is an American. Other than Wexner 38:56.340 --> 38:58.340 what were some of the other things that 38:58.340 --> 39:00.320 she had told you that 39:00.320 --> 39:02.140 specifically mainstream 39:02.140 --> 39:04.320 media would not allow her to say 39:04.320 --> 39:06.240 or would cut out? Well it was 39:06.240 --> 39:08.160 specifically anything to do with Wexner 39:08.160 --> 39:09.940 and a lot of other things 39:09.940 --> 39:11.500 it was just so much because 39:11.500 --> 39:13.920 I had read about her story in mainstream media 39:13.920 --> 39:15.220 because they reported on her 39:16.080 --> 39:17.260 and honestly 39:17.260 --> 39:19.160 she said everything that she had told me 39:19.160 --> 39:21.700 she had told them and less than 5% 39:21.700 --> 39:23.260 ended up in mainstream media 39:23.260 --> 39:25.320 Are you of the opinion that 39:25.320 --> 39:27.480 Wexner is an 39:27.480 --> 39:29.280 asset of either a foreign 39:29.280 --> 39:31.180 intelligence service or our intelligence 39:31.180 --> 39:33.200 service? She said 39:33.200 --> 39:35.160 that he's Masad 39:35.160 --> 39:36.260 that's what she said 39:36.260 --> 39:39.020 and that he's part of 39:39.020 --> 39:39.840 the mob 39:39.840 --> 39:41.640 the mafia 39:41.640 --> 39:44.120 he said it's organized crime 39:44.120 --> 39:45.960 and in my series I point that out too 39:45.960 --> 39:47.660 that he has basically 39:47.660 --> 39:49.640 documented ties to the national crime 39:49.640 --> 39:51.760 syndicate which is the Jewish and Italian mafia 39:51.760 --> 39:54.100 So let's hear what Les Wexner 39:54.100 --> 39:55.740 had to say yesterday in his defense 39:55.740 --> 39:57.860 Epstein stole or otherwise 39:57.860 --> 40:00.120 misappropriated several hundred 40:00.120 --> 40:01.780 million dollars from Wexner 40:01.780 --> 40:03.780 that misconduct together 40:03.780 --> 40:05.820 with the fees that Epstein 40:05.820 --> 40:07.580 paid himself for his services 40:07.580 --> 40:09.700 to Wexner appears to account 40:09.700 --> 40:11.660 for virtually all 40:11.660 --> 40:13.040 of Epstein's wealth 40:13.700 --> 40:15.660 so several hundred 40:15.660 --> 40:17.500 million dollars is a large 40:17.500 --> 40:19.380 but not precise figure 40:19.380 --> 40:21.240 to the best of your knowledge 40:21.240 --> 40:23.480 how much exactly did Epstein 40:23.480 --> 40:25.540 steal? I don't know 40:25.540 --> 40:27.540 I don't think I'll ever know 40:27.540 --> 40:29.680 I'd like to try to understand a little 40:29.680 --> 40:31.800 bit better how Epstein was able 40:31.800 --> 40:33.540 to steal or 40:33.540 --> 40:35.780 misappropriate that many 40:35.780 --> 40:36.780 funds 40:36.780 --> 40:38.660 one way reportedly 40:38.660 --> 40:39.720 is that 40:40.360 --> 40:42.960 the trust that we described earlier 40:42.960 --> 40:44.920 which I know you said you have no recollection of 40:44.920 --> 40:46.640 I just want to be thorough 40:46.640 --> 40:49.040 the trust that he was trustee of 40:49.040 --> 40:50.680 would receive gifts of 40:50.680 --> 40:51.780 limited stock 40:51.780 --> 40:54.240 and he would then sell that stock 40:54.240 --> 40:55.800 on the New York Stock Exchange 40:55.800 --> 40:58.760 and then use a portion of those proceeds 40:58.760 --> 41:00.500 for his own personal 41:00.500 --> 41:02.700 purposes. Do you have any knowledge 41:02.700 --> 41:05.200 or recollection of what I just described? 41:05.200 --> 41:06.740 I think I'm surprised 41:07.800 --> 41:08.360 I 41:09.580 --> 41:10.140 shocked 41:10.140 --> 41:13.300 I didn't know this. Is it that you have not previously 41:13.300 --> 41:15.300 heard what I just described? 41:15.460 --> 41:17.080 I've never heard of it 41:17.080 --> 41:18.080 never saw this document 41:18.080 --> 41:21.300 and it was publicly reported I think by ABC 41:21.300 --> 41:23.200 several years ago but not 41:23.200 --> 41:24.820 ever on your radar 41:24.820 --> 41:27.600 never. So that's Les Wexner 41:27.600 --> 41:28.940 a guy who 41:28.940 --> 41:30.060 in 1991 41:30.060 --> 41:33.140 signed a power of attorney over to Jeffrey Epstein 41:33.140 --> 41:35.380 he's also to this day 41:35.380 --> 41:37.700 the richest man in the state of Ohio 41:37.700 --> 41:39.080 and he 41:39.080 --> 41:41.180 was robbed to the tune of 41:41.180 --> 41:43.080 hundreds of millions of dollars 41:43.080 --> 41:45.100 by Jeffrey Epstein 41:45.100 --> 41:47.080 who had a power of attorney over his 41:47.080 --> 41:48.620 estate and Les Wexner 41:48.900 --> 41:51.120 the richest man in Ohio wants you to 41:51.120 --> 41:53.480 believe that he had no idea 41:53.480 --> 41:55.260 that he had no idea 41:55.260 --> 41:57.280 let me tell you as a former money 41:57.280 --> 41:58.960 manager a guy who managed 41:58.960 --> 42:00.000 hundreds of millions of dollars 42:00.000 --> 42:02.220 I knew a lot of rich people 42:02.220 --> 42:03.960 and let me tell you 42:03.960 --> 42:05.460 none of them 42:06.000 --> 42:07.900 would misplace over 42:07.900 --> 42:09.040 a hundred million dollars 42:09.960 --> 42:11.640 doesn't ever fucking 42:11.640 --> 42:13.680 happen. You don't become a billionaire 42:13.680 --> 42:15.960 by losing hundreds of millions of dollars 42:15.960 --> 42:18.200 and you just don't even look into it 42:18.200 --> 42:20.060 you don't even know that it's occurred. So how did 42:20.060 --> 42:22.180 Wexner get in contact with Epstein 42:22.180 --> 42:23.620 you might be wondering. As that 42:23.620 --> 42:26.020 business relationship became 42:26.020 --> 42:27.900 closer and you eventually hired him 42:27.900 --> 42:28.700 I assume he 42:28.700 --> 42:31.340 he pitched his services in some way 42:31.340 --> 42:33.200 what was his way of framing 42:33.200 --> 42:35.080 what he was offering to you. I think 42:35.080 --> 42:36.520 it was his experience 42:38.360 --> 42:40.020 at an industrial level 42:40.020 --> 42:41.700 like looking for a big company 42:41.700 --> 42:43.180 like Bear Stearns 42:43.180 --> 42:44.960 and they had done personal 42:45.780 --> 42:47.860 work for the Rothschild family 42:47.860 --> 42:49.740 in France. Personal 42:49.740 --> 42:51.160 wealth management essentially 42:54.220 --> 42:55.660 I don't know. 42:55.660 --> 42:57.300 So he doesn't have a fucking clue 42:57.300 --> 42:59.740 what skill set Jeffrey Epstein brought to the table 42:59.740 --> 43:00.980 all he knows 43:01.500 --> 43:04.160 is that he worked with the Rothschilds 43:04.160 --> 43:05.240 this is classic 43:05.240 --> 43:07.260 Russian espionage 43:07.260 --> 43:08.200 is it not folks? 43:08.940 --> 43:10.580 Oh my god 43:11.740 --> 43:13.520 oh it's so crazy 43:13.520 --> 43:15.360 I mean it's so crazy that 43:15.360 --> 43:16.800 we even have to like 43:17.420 --> 43:19.040 actually make an argument 43:19.040 --> 43:20.660 when the evidence is just 43:20.660 --> 43:22.620 all so in your face 43:22.620 --> 43:24.140 as to what this was 43:24.140 --> 43:26.560 so the reason I wanted to tie these 43:26.560 --> 43:28.360 two stories together is because I think that 43:28.360 --> 43:30.200 the obvious concern 43:30.200 --> 43:32.500 for most people that have paid attention 43:32.500 --> 43:33.820 to both of these stories 43:33.820 --> 43:36.640 both of these narratives over the past couple 43:36.640 --> 43:38.700 years is that how intertwined 43:38.700 --> 43:40.780 are they? How much does 43:41.400 --> 43:42.240 what the 43:42.240 --> 43:44.440 I'm not even saying specifically the Epstein operation 43:44.440 --> 43:45.960 I'm saying what the Epstein operation 43:46.680 --> 43:47.240 entailed 43:47.920 --> 43:50.020 what was it broad based 43:50.020 --> 43:51.840 and if you believe as I do 43:51.840 --> 43:53.380 that it was about creating 43:54.000 --> 43:54.900 leverage or 43:55.780 --> 43:58.060 gaining favor with rich 43:58.060 --> 44:00.220 and powerful people in corporate America 44:00.220 --> 44:02.140 as well as in governments all over the world 44:02.140 --> 44:03.120 that 44:03.120 --> 44:05.500 was it about sexual 44:05.800 --> 44:07.940 compromise and if that is part of it 44:07.940 --> 44:09.900 then is that the reason that so many of our 44:09.900 --> 44:11.480 politicians don't represent us 44:11.480 --> 44:13.280 because I think the truth is that 44:13.280 --> 44:15.860 regardless of how much leverage can be 44:15.860 --> 44:18.080 applied through organizations like APEC 44:18.080 --> 44:19.640 and just funding 44:19.640 --> 44:22.000 campaigns and funding competitors against 44:22.000 --> 44:23.560 people like Massier and MTG 44:23.820 --> 44:26.080 if they get out of line I think most of us 44:26.080 --> 44:27.660 recognize at this point that 44:27.660 --> 44:29.680 the world view of 44:29.680 --> 44:31.840 Zionism is such 44:31.840 --> 44:33.320 an existential battle 44:33.960 --> 44:35.820 that's their perspective all the time 44:35.820 --> 44:37.940 existential battle as they're 44:37.940 --> 44:39.120 conquering all of their neighbors 44:39.120 --> 44:41.820 they're existential under threat they're always the victim 44:41.820 --> 44:44.140 even though they're demolishing everybody 44:44.140 --> 44:46.000 around them and once you kind of come to terms 44:46.000 --> 44:47.260 with that you look at it and you go 44:47.260 --> 44:49.420 okay do you think it's really 44:49.970 --> 44:51.040 limited to just 44:51.800 --> 44:52.640 campaign contributions 44:53.400 --> 44:55.320 like do you think that they're not 44:55.320 --> 44:56.900 taking it to the next level 44:56.900 --> 44:59.020 and I think most people 44:59.020 --> 45:01.780 even if you weren't sure about what the 45:01.780 --> 45:04.740 EPC operation entailed just the cover up of it 45:04.740 --> 45:06.100 given all of the evidence we have 45:06.100 --> 45:07.340 as to what it did entail 45:07.340 --> 45:09.660 and then the cover up of it by our own government 45:09.660 --> 45:11.300 tells you that there is something 45:11.830 --> 45:13.980 fucking enormous going on here 45:13.980 --> 45:15.960 because it's not just about 45:15.960 --> 45:18.320 protecting the richest man in Ohio 45:18.320 --> 45:20.280 it's not just about 45:20.280 --> 45:22.100 combating anti-Semitism 45:22.100 --> 45:24.680 it's much much bigger 45:24.680 --> 45:25.920 and I think that 45:25.920 --> 45:28.140 this is the reason I've spent the past 45:28.140 --> 45:30.260 four or five episodes now talking about the 45:30.260 --> 45:31.280 Epstein thing is because 45:31.280 --> 45:34.080 I think that it's all part of the 45:34.080 --> 45:36.020 bigger kind of functional 45:36.020 --> 45:38.360 narrative like how our system 45:38.360 --> 45:40.120 truly functions at its 45:40.120 --> 45:41.660 core which is why 45:41.660 --> 45:43.740 the algorithm has not been 45:43.740 --> 45:45.220 lacking me lately because 45:45.220 --> 45:47.900 I think I'm really fucking onto it right now 45:47.900 --> 45:49.620 I think I'm really really like 45:49.620 --> 45:51.180 over the target big time so 45:51.180 --> 45:53.180 if you agree 45:53.180 --> 45:55.820 share this show around because if you don't support 45:55.820 --> 45:57.500 Liberty Lockdown if you don't support me 45:57.500 --> 45:59.020 Clint Russell hi again 45:59.660 --> 46:01.340 then you're stuck with these 46:01.340 --> 46:03.700 fucking lemmings which have filled 46:03.700 --> 46:05.200 in for Charlie Kirk 46:05.200 --> 46:06.860 after his untimely demise 46:07.480 --> 46:09.180 but listen there are 46:09.740 --> 46:11.380 things happening in the background 46:11.380 --> 46:12.900 at the DOJ 46:12.900 --> 46:14.480 that we just need to keep our 46:14.940 --> 46:17.020 eyes on and we need to sort of say listen 46:17.020 --> 46:18.920 the wheels of justice 46:18.920 --> 46:21.160 turn slowly sometimes but they are happening 46:21.160 --> 46:23.060 okay so we should remember 46:23.060 --> 46:24.940 that for a lot of people 46:24.940 --> 46:27.440 this has become a political cause 46:27.440 --> 46:29.040 out of proportion 46:29.040 --> 46:30.920 to what is actually proven 46:30.920 --> 46:32.460 what is actually provable 46:33.100 --> 46:34.780 and yeah more might be coming but 46:34.780 --> 46:36.960 we should remember that there is a lot of 46:36.960 --> 46:39.240 we've been through a few rounds of law fair in our time 46:39.240 --> 46:40.760 it's sad it honestly 46:40.760 --> 46:43.140 makes me sad but I just wanted to say 46:43.600 --> 46:44.860 I am still following 46:44.860 --> 46:46.940 the Charlie Kirk case very closely if you guys are 46:46.940 --> 46:48.900 interested in me doing a update episode 46:48.900 --> 46:50.880 I have quite a bit to talk about 46:50.880 --> 46:52.720 at this point I haven't done one in like 46:52.720 --> 46:54.060 I don't know maybe a month now 46:54.660 --> 46:56.800 so if you're interested to drop a comment down below 46:56.800 --> 46:58.680 let me know if there's enough interest 46:58.680 --> 47:00.920 I will do one and if there's not then I'll just keep it 47:00.920 --> 47:02.720 moving there's a hell of a lot of news happening 47:02.720 --> 47:04.760 so I've got I've got my pick of the letter 47:04.760 --> 47:06.480 please do hit the like button, subscribe 47:06.480 --> 47:08.860 and share the show around and most importantly 47:08.860 --> 47:10.580 hug and kiss your family 47:10.580 --> 47:11.520 love you guys, peace 47:11.520 --> 47:14.180 I don't anticipate Leslie Wexner 47:14.180 --> 47:17.020 being arrested at any point 47:17.020 --> 47:18.580 he is 47:18.580 --> 47:19.780 far too powerful 47:19.780 --> 47:22.000 his money is everywhere 47:22.560 --> 47:24.880 and honestly he has extremely deep 47:24.880 --> 47:26.280 ties to numerous 47:26.280 --> 47:28.460 officials in the Israeli government 47:28.460 --> 47:29.960 through his philanthropies 47:29.960 --> 47:32.840 he focused pretty much the bulk 47:32.840 --> 47:33.980 of the Wexner Foundation 47:33.980 --> 47:36.260 on training up prominent figures 47:36.260 --> 47:38.220 first in the U.S. in the U.S. 47:38.280 --> 47:39.880 in the Jewish community in particular 47:39.880 --> 47:42.060 and now those fellows 47:42.060 --> 47:43.420 those Wexner fellows 47:43.420 --> 47:45.280 essentially run APAC 47:45.280 --> 47:47.880 it has an extremely close relationship with APAC 47:47.880 --> 47:49.560 subscribe to Liberty Lockdown 47:49.560 --> 47:51.060 great podcast Clint is tight