WEBVTT 00:03.180 --> 00:11.320 It's time for declare your independence with Ernest Hancock believe me when I say we have a 00:11.320 --> 00:13.260 Difficult time ahead of us 00:13.260 --> 00:19.660 But if we are to be prepared for it, we must first shed our fear of it 00:20.340 --> 00:24.700 I stand here without fear because I remember 00:25.440 --> 00:32.560 I remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me, but because of the path that lies behind me 00:33.520 --> 00:37.900 I remember that for 100 years we have fought these machines and 00:38.800 --> 00:44.000 After a century of war, I remember that which matters most 00:44.860 --> 01:12.680 We are still 01:15.040 --> 01:15.500 Oh 01:16.020 --> 01:23.140 We're back. We're back in Arizona. I am in the middle of and damn I feel safer more insulated 01:23.140 --> 01:28.700 But we took time to take a trip down to Narkapoco with the Narkapoco 01:28.700 --> 01:34.720 Jeff Berwick's on going to split it to us. This is um, I'm just gonna rattle off some of the issues 01:34.720 --> 01:41.010 I want to make sure that we get to and then just let Jeff monologue us all to hell, you know one I 01:42.090 --> 01:44.030 Haven't seen Jeff in a few years 01:44.030 --> 01:49.730 Go back he comes over and says yo, what's up? We're yakking and I'm looking at my holy crap 01:49.730 --> 01:55.970 You're like 10 years younger and I'm gonna put up here. I'll show you I show you this this is Jeff now 01:55.970 --> 02:00.770 He's a teenager. I mean, oh my god, you know, so he'll talk about his health stuff 02:00.770 --> 02:06.710 He's always got some health thing and unit the selling and you too can be young and whatever the crap 02:06.710 --> 02:10.570 But bottom line Jeff's looking pretty good, you know 02:10.570 --> 02:13.350 He'd take care of his health, you know, you stop drinking 02:13.350 --> 02:18.210 I don't know if you're smoking still or whatever, but there may be some secret sauce of Joe 02:18.210 --> 02:22.650 Are you gonna explain it to us because I tell you from personal looking at Jeff? 02:22.970 --> 02:28.490 He's a lot younger a lot healthier looking better just saying now a Narkapoco, of course 02:28.490 --> 02:34.530 We're gonna go over that we want to talk about a Narkapoco and its success and the move from 02:35.050 --> 02:39.870 Narkapoco after the hurricane of you know a friend down there that lived in 02:41.090 --> 02:45.170 Narkapoco now this in part of Iarta. She was saying oh my god 02:45.170 --> 02:51.190 200 mile an hour winds for six hours plus. It's like man 02:51.190 --> 02:54.810 She go, I'm glad my husband was here take care of business because I fold it 02:54.810 --> 02:59.430 There was and they were prepped up with enough alcohol and cigarettes 02:59.430 --> 03:03.830 You know to be able to pass out the security so they they're getting paid in cigarettes 03:03.830 --> 03:09.250 You know silver gold crypto. Yeah, we'll take cigarettes. I mean, you know it 03:09.250 --> 03:14.690 So there's that you gotta keep that in mind and then they go to part of Iarta to be safer 03:15.170 --> 03:21.330 Well, then what happens? We'll talk about that too. You know how what was really going on there and who do you ask? 03:22.430 --> 03:27.130 You know, it's a taxi drivers to Uber guys to the maids the concierge 03:27.130 --> 03:30.930 You know the people the staff there are people that live there 03:30.930 --> 03:35.110 You want to get the truth you go to the source and of course? 03:35.670 --> 03:39.730 One thing I wanted to comment on are we there yet? Are we that where we're there? 03:40.050 --> 03:47.910 I mean, you know, so the beginning is nigh. We'll talk about that then the future, you know the community the Liberty community 03:48.630 --> 03:53.270 Predictions crypto, but I want to start with that one right there 03:54.350 --> 03:57.830 Narkapoco has a lot of the English-speaking world 03:57.830 --> 04:03.930 I mean you get people from Spain and Europe and Africa and and so on but it's generally United Kingdom 04:04.510 --> 04:10.430 Canada Australia New Zealand. I mean you got you know the Queen's money or Kings 04:11.190 --> 04:13.030 Is on the you're printed money? 04:14.530 --> 04:22.150 They're abused and they want to go to Narkapoco and this has been a trend that I see from around the world 04:22.150 --> 04:24.650 generally English-speaking but 04:24.650 --> 04:25.610 You know 04:26.230 --> 04:32.710 US is represented, but I mean it's a lot of the English-speaking world looking for freedom and they find an 04:32.710 --> 04:39.290 Narkapoco and their fans of Jeff and you know his walkabouts with his dog and so on so they come and 04:39.830 --> 04:46.030 By the hundreds and it was a really not I'll give my opinion, but first let's go to Jeff Jeff 04:46.030 --> 04:51.770 Explain it to me man. You know what the move the first thing was you went from 04:52.330 --> 04:58.470 Narkapoco, this is the first one in Puerto Vallarta. Tell us about that decision and how that worked out. Would you please? 04:59.870 --> 05:05.770 Well it worked out very interestingly as you pointed out we had so many things happened to us in Narkapoco 05:05.770 --> 05:09.370 So many that I don't think it could be a call to coincidence at all at this point 05:09.370 --> 05:15.610 I even typed it into grok. I said grok if you had an event over eight years in Mexico and 05:15.610 --> 05:19.350 One of the one of the years someone was shot right before the conference 05:19.350 --> 05:23.310 And it was international news and it actually was which it shouldn't have been right? 05:23.370 --> 05:28.330 It was one person got shot, but it was like top headlines all across the world 05:29.450 --> 05:36.190 Then after that we have a 7.2 earthquake right before Ron Paul stepped on stage the next year 05:36.750 --> 05:40.610 Then we got through the co-vades, which we had to hide in a place called the secret garden 05:40.610 --> 05:44.550 We were one of the only events that continued to run all through the co-vades 05:44.550 --> 05:49.490 Then we got hit by a cat 5 hurricane that came out of the blue not one person 05:49.490 --> 05:53.770 Well, I was like one of the only people who knew I don't know how I was one of the only people who knew but I 05:53.770 --> 05:59.130 Saw something on Twitter and I was like this looks like it's a big hurricane coming and everyone's like no 05:59.130 --> 06:00.510 No, there's nothing on the television 06:00.510 --> 06:02.550 No one's saying anything and it was nighttime 06:02.550 --> 06:05.890 So most people just went to sleep and then as you pointed out a cat 5 06:06.450 --> 06:11.750 One of the only cat 5 has ever hit dead on on a major city before hit dead on on Narkapoco 06:11.750 --> 06:15.850 It actually hit directly at Max Egan's house and then the secret garden behind it 06:15.850 --> 06:19.850 But the secret garden was not very damaged at all. It was very protected 06:20.810 --> 06:25.010 But that destroyed most of the city, but we still ran the conference that year 06:25.010 --> 06:29.830 Then the next year we got hit by a cat 3 rape before the conference, which was it actually hit twice 06:29.830 --> 06:34.350 Which has never happened before I came in flooded the city went out into the ocean 06:34.350 --> 06:39.190 Gained strength and then came back in and sat on top of the city until the entire city was under 06:39.890 --> 06:40.910 numerous feet of water 06:41.690 --> 06:44.030 so then that all happened and then 06:44.710 --> 06:45.570 We were like 06:46.150 --> 06:48.310 We're actually thinking let's get out of the secret garden 06:48.310 --> 06:54.110 We've been here we were mostly there for the covades because a lot of like even the princess hotel in akapoco said that they didn't 06:54.710 --> 06:56.490 If we had the event there in 2021 06:56.490 --> 07:01.270 We'd have to sit six feet apart and wear surgeons masks like they went totally crazy 07:01.270 --> 07:05.510 They're like you have to wear surgeons masks. I'm like we're not surgeons, but they didn't seem to get it 07:06.010 --> 07:06.410 and 07:06.410 --> 07:11.710 And so after a few years at the secret garden, we thought, you know, it's time for a change 07:11.710 --> 07:16.130 Let's let's go back out in public again. And then we thought well, we're gonna do that. Let's 07:17.010 --> 07:18.970 Go let's consider all our options 07:18.970 --> 07:23.170 And I we've heard so many people say that they they would come to our capoco 07:23.170 --> 07:26.870 But it's so hard to get to akapoca, which has hardly any direct flights from anywhere 07:27.570 --> 07:31.110 So I thought well, let's try out port of irritus who we moved there this year 07:31.110 --> 07:35.610 And then right after the event on the sunday after where a lot of people were still there 07:35.610 --> 07:37.310 It was hit by a massive 07:37.850 --> 07:38.510 terror attack 07:38.510 --> 07:43.130 And so I took all that into grok. I said if all those things happened to one event 07:43.810 --> 07:47.010 Over an eight-year period what would be the odds of it? 07:47.070 --> 07:51.230 And it actually came back with this exact number and said one in 60.6 billion 07:52.130 --> 07:52.650 and 07:52.650 --> 07:59.270 So I think I think it's fair to say at this point that either we're being attacked or 07:59.750 --> 08:05.090 We're causing this and actually christoph melchizanak is very spiritual says that we're actually causing it 08:05.670 --> 08:07.730 Because we bring so many like 08:08.430 --> 08:10.090 truths and freedom 08:10.670 --> 08:11.930 People who are very 08:12.450 --> 08:19.630 Coherence because all the stuff we believe in is all aligned with with truth with beauty with like not attacking other people 08:19.630 --> 08:22.910 Stuff like that. Whereas all these other systems in the world all are 08:22.910 --> 08:29.070 We're like a low pressure system coming into a high pressure system and it actually causes the stuff is what he says 08:29.890 --> 08:33.310 So it's either that or we're just constantly being attacked by the system 08:33.310 --> 08:36.890 Because there's no other way to explain how all these things keep happening to us 08:37.590 --> 08:42.050 But yeah, so we moved to port of arden as port of arden. It was actually amazing 08:42.770 --> 08:46.390 You know, I don't think you've been there last year or two if I remember correctly 08:46.390 --> 08:50.890 You weren't there last year, but uh, it's changed so dramatically the event 08:50.890 --> 08:54.610 It's become such an incredible amazing coherent beautiful 08:55.430 --> 09:00.510 Event like you remember the old days back in like, you know, because this was our 12th year 09:00.510 --> 09:07.530 You remember in our first few years there was always some sort of drama or chaos or fighting or all these sort of things 09:07.530 --> 09:09.170 And there was nothing like that this year 09:10.150 --> 09:13.110 Well, you know, the reason I think is um 09:14.070 --> 09:18.170 Well, I don't know why it's just evolved. It was um, you know, I 09:18.770 --> 09:26.390 This year it was at a convention center a newer convention center part of my art is almost like dubai in the construction 09:26.390 --> 09:31.190 Oh my god, I even asked asked grok. I go what the hell is going on? 09:31.310 --> 09:34.010 Why is there so much building said something about well, you know 09:34.010 --> 09:36.670 It's a tourist thing and it's growing and get more popular 09:36.670 --> 09:42.810 But there's also something about the world cup is coming to mexico somewhere and that part of my art to be 09:42.810 --> 09:45.830 You know, like you're saying direct flights and it was so 09:46.730 --> 09:51.670 Convenient for us where before you know, I um during covades, you know 09:51.670 --> 09:57.030 I mc'd a couple of years and what happened was my only condition was I'm not getting a shot 09:57.030 --> 09:59.330 I mean you gotta figure out somehow I get down there 09:59.330 --> 10:05.110 So I had to drive to teowanna or drive to san diego go across the bridge and go and we could do it 10:05.110 --> 10:11.950 Okay, well inconvenience myself enough to you know, help out and do I'm just not getting the shot. Well, uh 10:11.950 --> 10:18.170 Now perto by arta. It's a direct shot from sky harbor phoenix here straight into perto by arta 10:18.170 --> 10:22.470 And that wasn't that far. I mean there's a couple hours and boom. I'm going hell. Yeah 10:22.470 --> 10:28.430 I can see where it's more convenient because before you go to mexico city and you wait for five gazillion years 10:28.430 --> 10:35.010 You get on a flight to go to a capoco airport and then you know the consternation there, but it's um 10:35.010 --> 10:40.030 It was more convenient. There was I tell you one thing that I noticed it was 10:40.790 --> 10:47.230 Not old but more mature crowd. There wasn't you know the the 20-something crypto people run around all over 10:47.230 --> 10:53.570 It was more uh people that were seasoned probably had resources. They were there for um 10:53.570 --> 10:55.010 You know the next big rich 10:55.010 --> 10:59.650 Jeff's going to make a rich thing and that's one thing that the dollar vigilante 10:59.650 --> 11:02.310 I remember that was a thing, you know 11:02.910 --> 11:04.210 I don't know when you started it 11:04.210 --> 11:10.170 But I remember a lot of love illusionaries that young guys there are all jeff burwick up and moving to uh 11:10.810 --> 11:13.710 Acapoco and you know looking for a future 11:13.710 --> 11:15.410 Well the dollar vigilante 11:16.190 --> 11:21.530 Explain what that is and that community that you have in their focus. Would you please? 11:22.410 --> 11:27.770 Yeah, the dollar vigilante. I started in 2010. Um, so it's uh 16 years old now 11:27.770 --> 11:30.150 Uh, I didn't start with any of this gray hair although 11:30.150 --> 11:34.950 I am starting to lose my gray hair with the tesla machine. That's a whole other story, but uh the um 11:34.950 --> 11:38.250 Uh, we started right after the 2008 financial collapse 11:38.250 --> 11:40.790 It became very clear to me at that point 11:40.790 --> 11:47.490 That this is that was going to be the last sort of big crash before the the complete collapse of the system 11:48.130 --> 11:53.030 Uh, and we're getting very very close to that now. So, uh, yeah, we started that in 2010 11:53.030 --> 11:56.810 We've always been heavy into gold silver and the gold silver mining stocks 11:56.810 --> 12:01.530 Which have done incredibly well in the last year. Uh, and then we're also been quite big into crypto 12:01.530 --> 12:09.390 I recommend a bitcoin at three dollars. I recommend an ethereum at two dollars. So 12:09.390 --> 12:13.950 Basically the entire newsletter's about two dollars, but it went down to 60 000 from a hundred 12:13.950 --> 12:16.310 You're still probably making money, you know 12:17.110 --> 12:18.010 Yeah, yeah 12:18.010 --> 12:22.890 Well, we actually said we have a newsletter called the crypto vigilante because we can't cover it all in the dollar vigilante 12:22.890 --> 12:28.090 And uh, they said to sell uh your bitcoin above a hundred thousand this year. So we nailed it again 12:28.090 --> 12:29.530 We we nail it all the time 12:29.530 --> 12:31.830 It's it's like the best newsletters in the world 12:31.830 --> 12:36.330 But no one really knows about it and we never get talked about because of course the powers that be 12:36.330 --> 12:40.590 Don't want anyone to know about this essentially anarcho-capitalist financial newsletter 12:40.590 --> 12:45.130 That's profiting from all of the destruction of all their central banking and all their 12:45.130 --> 12:49.790 Big government operations and things like that. But that's what we do at the dollar vigilante 12:50.990 --> 12:55.850 Well, this is it it creates this is one thing I want to get your comment on, you know 12:55.850 --> 12:58.990 When I I went to the bitcoin conference 12:58.990 --> 13:05.010 Uh, the invitation of ross and leno brick when it was in las vegas, you know this last august 13:05.570 --> 13:11.030 And I saw it was so beating the drum at store of value. It's digital gold 13:11.030 --> 13:14.510 You know, we're just going to get rich and we're integrating, you know 13:15.330 --> 13:21.650 Crypto in to the government and the monetary system and that was what I was afraid of I mean for years decades 13:21.650 --> 13:24.950 I'm like I could see you know the hijacking bitcoin thing 13:24.950 --> 13:29.050 We have roger on a couple weeks before he got arrested after he published the book 13:29.050 --> 13:32.250 And we're working, you know with him and erin on, you know 13:32.250 --> 13:39.910 Demonstrating zano in the agris market here in occupied land and out of principle, you know what it was for 13:40.510 --> 13:41.770 Well, what happens is 13:42.470 --> 13:48.090 Now we have crypto is just it's a store of value. We're just going to get rich 13:48.090 --> 13:54.490 We're not in they just totally eliminate the peer-to-peer digital cash option and bitcoin 13:54.490 --> 14:01.410 I would say I'll tell you what's intrinsic value is it's worth the gold and silver you're willing to give up for its features 14:02.070 --> 14:03.610 Well, they take those features away 14:04.070 --> 14:06.390 All the things that we were you know the privacy 14:06.390 --> 14:10.670 You know the speed the cheapness all these things that were promised to liberty community 14:11.210 --> 14:14.050 Well, you take that away. What the hell is it good for? 14:14.730 --> 14:17.070 You know and I so we're looking for the privacy 14:17.070 --> 14:18.150 Do you have you know 14:18.150 --> 14:22.430 Little insight on some privacy coins where you see crypto going 14:22.430 --> 14:28.130 You know, is it just going to be get it on your visa and get k y c'd on everything or 14:28.130 --> 14:32.150 You know, we're going to have something else that the liberty community can embrace 14:33.130 --> 14:39.010 Yeah, for sure. Um, yeah when I started the doll vigilante and then recommended bitcoin at three dollars in 2011 14:39.010 --> 14:41.370 I knew people like roger veer pretty quickly 14:41.890 --> 14:43.410 raffaela verde and so many 14:43.410 --> 14:50.110 And we were all basically a narco capitalists and we were super excited about bitcoin because we saw the potential for it to become 14:50.110 --> 14:54.210 The world's currency and by doing that it would get rid of the central banks 14:54.210 --> 14:58.090 And by doing that we would downsize governments massively if not completely 14:58.650 --> 15:01.750 Which would bring peace and prosperity on earth like we've never known it 15:01.750 --> 15:08.010 So we were super excited about it, but by around 2017 and this is actually just coming out the ebbstein files now a little bit 15:09.110 --> 15:14.290 To some extent it got hijacked even by jeffrey ebbstein himself, which I didn't even know 15:14.830 --> 15:15.130 and 15:15.830 --> 15:18.850 We were aware of it though like we knew what was happening at that time 15:18.850 --> 15:22.470 We knew was being hijacked by basically the globalists or whatever you want to call them 15:22.470 --> 15:27.470 And what they did was they limited the block size to basically like super tiny amount 15:27.470 --> 15:32.130 So that it could never ever be used as a currency by everyone in the world 15:32.130 --> 15:33.530 It can barely be used by 15:33.530 --> 15:38.130 You know a few hundred thousand people really as a currency because of how limited it was 15:38.130 --> 15:41.950 so we spoke up dramatically about that raffaela verde who 15:42.500 --> 15:46.730 Is my partner at the crypto vigilante has been one of the most outspoken people about it 15:46.730 --> 15:49.190 He's been very against it ever since then 15:50.030 --> 15:54.470 And then over the years i've just become much less interested in bitcoin 15:54.470 --> 15:58.550 I'm basically not interested in bitcoin at all anymore even though we do have it in our portfolio 15:59.110 --> 16:03.090 Not right now as much because it's going down and probably will continue to go down but 16:03.830 --> 16:04.270 but 16:04.870 --> 16:06.690 For me personally I have no 16:06.690 --> 16:09.670 Like the the reason I got into bitcoin is what you just said, right? 16:09.830 --> 16:15.050 It was a way to get rid of the central banks. It was we thought it was private back in 2011 16:15.050 --> 16:15.570 Um 16:16.290 --> 16:20.010 We hadn't thought it through enough that you know these coin analytics 16:20.610 --> 16:25.430 Palantir type companies and governments would come together to be able to track everything so well 16:25.430 --> 16:26.710 So we thought it was basically 16:27.370 --> 16:33.610 Monero is what we thought bitcoin was so then monero was actually launched over a decade ago and 16:34.150 --> 16:37.950 I became incredibly interested at that point and I just every year now 16:37.950 --> 16:42.370 I'm more and more interested in it. I think of it as what I thought bitcoin was supposed to be 16:42.970 --> 16:44.530 And it's actually been doing 16:45.070 --> 16:51.510 Fairly well considering it's been delisted from almost every central exchange on earth, which should be a huge hint 16:52.110 --> 16:55.730 That that is what the system does not want. Um 16:56.210 --> 16:57.530 So yeah, I'm a huge 16:58.050 --> 17:01.450 The proponent of monero and then there's some smaller ones that I like as well 17:01.450 --> 17:04.450 I've talked about it over the years like pirate chain. I still like pirate chain 17:05.330 --> 17:09.890 It's uh gone up a lot in the past and then went down a lot in the past 17:10.670 --> 17:15.710 A R R R, you know pirate chain R. I always thought that was cool 17:15.710 --> 17:20.450 Yeah, that was a cool meme and everything but it's actually uh, even more private than monero 17:20.450 --> 17:24.290 And it's got a lot of things being developed on it right now 17:24.290 --> 17:26.950 So those are the two like obviously monero is the big one 17:26.950 --> 17:31.430 It's it's the big daddy and then like, you know, as far as the smaller coins 17:31.430 --> 17:34.450 I like things like pirate chain quite a bit 17:35.050 --> 17:42.110 Um, and I think they will start to catch on more and more as these governments and uh, and things like that get more and more 17:42.110 --> 17:45.250 tyrannical, um, I think, you know, if you look back at bitcoin 17:45.250 --> 17:49.070 The reason it took off was it was mostly used on dark web markets 17:49.070 --> 17:53.210 That's what the the russ ulbricht thing was all about. Of course, they went after ross 17:53.210 --> 17:55.310 They could find them because bitcoin is trackable 17:55.890 --> 18:02.130 Uh, but now there's no dark net markets on earth that use bitcoin. They'd be crazy to do that 18:02.130 --> 18:07.610 They'd be far too risky and they all use monero. So really we're kind of back at square one a little bit 18:08.070 --> 18:13.230 With where things are at but um, yeah, I'm very bullish on monero for the future 18:14.190 --> 18:19.350 You know, we um, kind of latched on with zano and the reason was 18:19.350 --> 18:21.950 Is because it's creating an infrastructure 18:22.710 --> 18:28.350 That we wanted to use and they got their own stablecoin and they got they got they got and I 18:29.290 --> 18:35.430 Interviewed uh all the developers and so on before we kind of you know went in I wanted to talk to them why 18:35.430 --> 18:38.570 You know, why are you doing this? Why why why why why? 18:38.930 --> 18:43.530 Well, one of the main developers is a guy that created the 18:44.090 --> 18:49.450 Base code for being anonymous with monero, you know, so I'm going okay. So there's that 18:50.330 --> 18:51.750 When I talk to them 18:52.230 --> 18:55.650 You know, of course, they're nervous. They don't want to kind of no I insist 18:55.650 --> 19:01.270 That both there was two guys one is kind of the businessman one was the you know, kind of the cto and I'm going 19:02.110 --> 19:06.190 I want to know why I always at why do you why why why why why? 19:06.850 --> 19:12.050 And he was from st. Petersburg, Russia and the reason was he didn't want to be surveilled by Putin 19:12.490 --> 19:17.010 You know, he's got you know, I I didn't want to be sure I wanted to be private and I could do it 19:17.010 --> 19:19.470 And I did it, you know there. I mean, what's the big deal? 19:19.970 --> 19:21.470 Well, he's 19:22.130 --> 19:26.630 Inundated by all these or narco capitalists and libertarians and all these principal people going 19:26.630 --> 19:29.310 He goes, hey man, I just wanted to be private. I don't know what you're talking about 19:29.310 --> 19:34.650 So I'm talking and I go and look you need to watch this video the philosophy of liberty thing 19:34.650 --> 19:40.150 It was in russian, you know, it's in like 45 languages. We're going to be launching that project here soon 19:41.110 --> 19:43.210 The fifth beware the ides of march 19:43.210 --> 19:48.310 So Corbin and I've been working on this we can school it's a thing and we'll make sure you know about it 19:48.310 --> 19:55.650 But the whole point was is that if you know the philosophy of liberty is about self ownership in this eight minute video 19:55.650 --> 19:59.550 That you have this russian guy watch it in russian and get 20:00.030 --> 20:04.390 Okay, I get it and when kin school and did this, you know, it's a long story 20:04.390 --> 20:10.570 But it was 93 goes to russia after the soviet union's breaking up and he's going we got to get this 20:10.570 --> 20:15.090 Now this guy was his tour guide is now a billion to air grocer and you go 20:15.090 --> 20:20.090 Whoa, okay, that's cool. James. I was interviewing Ken. We find out all this and what happened 20:20.090 --> 20:25.710 He goes look this book john the ventures of jonathan gubble that you wrote that kind of austrian economics 20:25.710 --> 20:30.570 You know what it's all about and a simple format for somebody coming out of soviet union can understand 20:30.570 --> 20:36.350 I need a primer. I need something. They understand, you know property rights tax. They don't know what the hell you're talking about 20:36.350 --> 20:41.510 We need to get that well somebody you know an activist then made this flash animation 20:41.510 --> 20:47.810 But that was like a thing back in the day in the 90s and it was first translated into russian 20:48.380 --> 20:51.830 And i'm going when I talk why why why all these people 20:52.470 --> 20:55.790 Lately or last year or so it was well, I read 20:56.340 --> 21:02.710 You know like I see your book back there human action and you know, I read iron ran and I read and I read and I go, huh? 21:03.070 --> 21:03.470 why 21:04.390 --> 21:06.190 Why why why? 21:06.610 --> 21:09.470 All of a sudden nighttime reading, you know, you just kind of picked it up 21:09.470 --> 21:13.790 I mean there has to be a reason and it kept coming back that they saw that flash animation 21:14.350 --> 21:20.570 That it was about self ownership and it kind of sent them down that road. So i'm going okay. Well, then i'm thinking 21:21.570 --> 21:26.490 America's coming out of this woke stuff and everything. It's like we're coming out of the soviet union 21:26.490 --> 21:28.830 I mean we need to understand the fundamental 21:29.610 --> 21:33.210 base of what this is all about that you get that splinter 21:33.850 --> 21:37.570 Planet in their brain in their mind and that has legs 21:37.570 --> 21:44.310 I've seen how it's five 10 years later and the same thing with a narcopoco. So the 21:45.030 --> 21:47.490 lesson that you're trying to get the 21:48.250 --> 21:50.250 idea the philosophy the 21:50.250 --> 21:51.850 um, you know 21:52.670 --> 21:54.810 Understanding what this is all about 21:54.810 --> 21:58.750 How do you do that with a narcopoco? How effective have you been? 21:58.750 --> 22:03.930 What are the issues that you because you have a wide range of speakers on a lot of different things 22:03.930 --> 22:07.590 How do you craft that and is it just you you got staff? 22:07.830 --> 22:12.710 Tell us about a narcopoco. Give me the elevator. They need to go next year of speech man go 22:14.550 --> 22:18.390 Well, um, it's changed a lot over the years as you know in the first few years 22:18.390 --> 22:24.090 It was a lot of people in like black t-shirts and uh get really drunk and angry about the government 22:24.090 --> 22:27.690 And uh, you know, there'd be a lot of anarcho-capitalists up there with all their slide shows 22:27.690 --> 22:32.930 Showing why government is so bad for the economy. Why it causes poverty and all this sort of stuff 22:33.370 --> 22:37.370 We don't have too much of that anymore because to me that's just like obvious now 22:37.370 --> 22:42.730 Uh, like if people don't understand that at this point, uh, you know, they're never gonna catch up in time 22:42.730 --> 22:47.590 Uh, and what I've found is there's so many things that are related to freedom 22:48.250 --> 22:50.930 That uh, so many incredible speakers out there 22:51.490 --> 22:54.090 And talking about what's actually going on in the world 22:54.650 --> 22:57.770 Um and things like that. So we have speakers like david dyke 22:57.770 --> 23:04.050 maxi and um and all kinds of like people just talking about what's actually happening in the world 23:04.710 --> 23:09.430 And what's actually causing it and stuff like that. So there's a lot of uh, what you can call truth 23:09.430 --> 23:13.030 People and a lot of freedom people and that's basically what it is 23:13.030 --> 23:18.270 It's it's basically a truth and freedom event and we are not afraid to talk about any topic 23:18.830 --> 23:22.690 We've had a flatter stuff on for the last couple years. We've had flatter debates 23:23.230 --> 23:24.010 Stuff like that 23:24.010 --> 23:31.210 So it's turned from being a purely anarcho capitalist sort of conference where we really focused on the government to 23:31.210 --> 23:36.010 A lot more about what is actual freedom and this is actually a a evolution 23:36.010 --> 23:41.770 I've gone through myself because I used to think about 10 years ago when I was drinking a lot that the biggest problem in the world 23:41.770 --> 23:43.590 Was the governments and the central banks 23:44.310 --> 23:45.530 Now I don't believe that anymore 23:45.530 --> 23:52.010 I I actually think the biggest problem for almost everyone in the world is their own mind and the programming they've been put under 23:52.570 --> 23:57.310 Uh, so once I started to work on that and I I did things like meditation for years 23:57.310 --> 24:03.310 I was doing between an hour and sometimes five hours a day of meditation for years and years 24:03.920 --> 24:11.510 Uh, and as I was I was beginning to like really realize a lot about uh, what this world is and what causes all the problems 24:11.510 --> 24:15.250 And it's usually the people actually create their own problems themselves 24:15.850 --> 24:19.010 Uh, so that's when I started talking a lot more about that stuff 24:19.010 --> 24:25.890 So then we have people coming on talking about consciousness talking about, uh, how to work on yourself self work shadow work 24:25.890 --> 24:29.870 All these sort of things and it's all kind of tied into one, uh, week 24:30.470 --> 24:31.990 And of course we talk about other things as well 24:31.990 --> 24:38.710 We talk about crypto because privacy crypto coins could still have the potential to get rid of the central banks and the governments 24:38.710 --> 24:39.570 Which would be awesome 24:40.250 --> 24:46.710 Uh, so we talk about every single angle of things, uh related to freedom and not just focused on 24:46.710 --> 24:51.090 How bad the government is and I think that's that's like a given at this point 24:51.090 --> 24:56.150 I think if people at this point haven't realized that, uh, they're not coming to an archivoco anyway 24:56.150 --> 25:00.350 Um, and so we don't have to start, you know, it's such a base level 25:00.350 --> 25:06.510 Um, but yeah, that's what it's become. It's become a really, uh, interesting event, uh with all kinds of incredible talks 25:06.510 --> 25:12.310 Like we've we had talks on how they're injecting nanotech into people now, uh, how they're, uh, 25:13.150 --> 25:16.730 uh, what kind of, um, uh, AI 25:18.090 --> 25:23.650 Systems they're putting into place to control people to control their minds. We had people talking about 25:23.650 --> 25:25.450 What is the history of the world? 25:26.190 --> 25:33.070 Is what we're told about history true, which it's it's definitely not, uh, and then they have all kinds of incredible theories on it 25:33.070 --> 25:36.770 So so it's really encompasses everything like you were there this year 25:36.770 --> 25:43.290 Like maybe you can tell me what you kind of saw is like this huge milieu of incredible, uh, topics 25:44.210 --> 25:50.830 You know, I got the, uh, talk to a lot of people we had a, you know, table out in a lobby and I spent a lot of the time there 25:50.830 --> 25:51.970 We were doing a lot of work 25:52.990 --> 25:53.830 and, um 25:54.430 --> 25:56.850 The conversations were very interesting 25:57.490 --> 26:01.050 And a lot of the people that we met at the dinners and so on, you know 26:01.050 --> 26:04.310 And uh sitting around table and you get a you know 26:04.310 --> 26:09.990 Guy from new zealand and a australian seek that you know came with a friend that 26:10.810 --> 26:14.350 It's just it's just amazing how people wind up there 26:15.230 --> 26:16.330 My impression 26:17.050 --> 26:24.630 Over the years has been that anarca poco was an experience that people needed like a lot of these festivals 26:24.630 --> 26:27.930 You know, uh, you go and you find out you're not alone 26:27.930 --> 26:30.270 And that's what a lot of people are looking for 26:30.270 --> 26:31.570 Am I crazy? 26:31.830 --> 26:32.830 I mean, I'm you know 26:32.830 --> 26:38.430 Am I the only one that sees and then you get all the receipts and the details and somebody 26:38.430 --> 26:45.470 Like erin day going up and doing the ebbstein files on crypto of oh my god. I mean it was just we had him on yesterday 26:45.470 --> 26:47.050 You know, uh 26:47.050 --> 26:52.230 Doing all that we talked before but he said just even since anarca poco is ai 26:52.230 --> 26:55.990 Scanning all the ebbstein files and look at old man 26:56.430 --> 27:04.150 And luke nick is so deep in with ebbstein and the future of and tethered dollar and stablecoins and 27:04.150 --> 27:10.750 Him and friends get the benefit of and trump and family doing their usd one stable company 27:10.750 --> 27:18.210 And then binance gets a pardon cz from there and then all of a sudden you find out he owns 80 percent of usd one 27:18.210 --> 27:22.110 Which is trump kind of oh my god, you know here we go 27:22.650 --> 27:30.750 Anarca poco is a touchstone for a lot of people internationally. It's not like you know, like we did our freedom summits in 27:31.350 --> 27:35.950 Here in arizona for a decade or more and all and that was a lot of the names 27:35.950 --> 27:38.310 I mean, you know, we have you know rom paul new rock 27:38.310 --> 27:44.490 Well, you know peter shift dug casey. I mean we had a lot of the guys, but it was before they were famous 27:44.880 --> 27:48.850 You know or infamous, you know, it was before people really understood 27:48.850 --> 27:53.210 And it was still that liberty group that they knew 27:53.740 --> 27:57.430 Well, then they get confirmation our narca poco is a little bit different 27:57.430 --> 28:04.870 What happened with the narca poco? It is what is the philosophy of liberty? It's about it's about 28:05.440 --> 28:11.270 You decentralization of power down to the individual, you know, certainly family community something 28:11.670 --> 28:17.590 And it encompasses a lot of other things. It's like a spiritual battle against evil 28:17.590 --> 28:22.130 It is how do you you know quiet your mind? And what do you pay? 28:22.490 --> 28:30.050 What do you pay attention to and the future is about credibility? Who do you believe? Why are you guided by principle? 28:30.470 --> 28:35.670 You know or is it well, we're kicking ass in Iran. We win. I'm team jersey. Whatever the hell 28:36.130 --> 28:43.230 The future is abundance and I want to you know bring it back to you on that. I am looking at 28:43.910 --> 28:50.850 Especially living out on the land here that we knew that certain technologies are going to allow us to have a first 28:50.850 --> 28:52.570 world experience 28:53.370 --> 29:00.190 Not too hungry not too thirsty not too cold not too hot not too unsheltered not to whatever and technology 29:00.190 --> 29:03.310 With the communication with satellite solar panel 29:03.310 --> 29:05.150 I mean all kinds of stuff 29:05.710 --> 29:13.290 Gives us the ability to break away from this control grid and i'm looking for the future 29:13.990 --> 29:15.390 What do you see? 29:16.030 --> 29:21.190 Is the what are the people there for they come and they well, what's the next tip? 29:21.310 --> 29:26.250 We're going to get richer and kind of whatever and you know hodl our crypto and you know be worth more 29:26.250 --> 29:29.970 Are you investing in freedom at least your own freedom? 29:30.650 --> 29:37.010 So the spiritual aspect that you bring to this the battle between good and evil and 29:37.010 --> 29:43.830 You know i tell you a lot of people are starting to embrace christianity. I mean it's really the only religion that's you know 29:46.290 --> 29:50.170 Do unto others you'd have do unto you you know it's a 29:51.530 --> 29:55.490 What do you say you do here? Well not rule one don't be a dick 29:55.490 --> 29:58.150 I mean you know this is you know what's happening 29:58.590 --> 30:04.630 And i'm wondering the spiritual aspect of this it had a big impact on you and you're seeing 30:05.250 --> 30:07.370 God's mentioned a lot even by you 30:07.370 --> 30:12.750 You know they've got all these anarchist atheist libertarians and all of a sudden they're finding jesus 30:12.750 --> 30:17.170 I'm wondering why did you anticipate that comment on that will you please? 30:18.150 --> 30:24.890 Yeah, that um well for me personally it started with just doing the self work and the meditation and i got into 30:25.490 --> 30:27.590 you know deep meditations where 30:29.190 --> 30:32.270 You know you can kind of just you kind of have this knowing 30:32.950 --> 30:37.710 You kind of this feeling of like that this isn't actually all that real 30:38.330 --> 30:43.130 And that that you're just in it for an experience and stuff like that 30:43.890 --> 30:46.890 And you know even as a logically speaking 30:46.890 --> 30:51.910 I used to think okay, what is this world and it didn't make any sense 30:51.910 --> 30:54.790 It's like okay, we're in a universe and it goes on forever 30:54.790 --> 30:59.550 It's like okay, but that doesn't even make any sense like there's no wall at the end if there is a wall 30:59.550 --> 31:00.830 What's outside that wall right? 31:01.570 --> 31:05.030 Like if you think about it logically none of it really makes any sense 31:05.030 --> 31:10.770 So I began to just you know in my meditations and stuff it became very clear to me personally 31:11.370 --> 31:16.370 That this is like a 3d video game that is basically inside the mind of god 31:16.370 --> 31:20.010 And you know like even coming logically I couldn't come to 31:20.550 --> 31:22.970 Uh like this is all just an accident 31:23.670 --> 31:28.550 That made no sense to me whatsoever. In fact, if you really think just logically 31:28.550 --> 31:33.370 Like none of this makes sense none of it at all like this was clearly created 31:33.930 --> 31:38.530 So then when you get to that you start to talk about god or whatever you want to call it, right? 31:38.810 --> 31:41.890 That some something someone whatever you want to call it 31:41.890 --> 31:48.270 Created all of this and it's pretty amazing. It's pretty incredible like even you know the chicken and the egg like how did that 31:48.270 --> 31:51.810 And you know what happened they had like one had to come first, but it doesn't make any sense 31:51.810 --> 31:55.950 None of it makes sense. How is it their body does like a trillion things in every second? 31:56.070 --> 32:00.330 We don't have to do anything at all runs itself perfectly. It's like the most incredible 32:00.890 --> 32:03.510 machine ever our brains you get into that 32:03.970 --> 32:07.330 So just from a logical basis and then getting into the meditation 32:07.330 --> 32:11.250 Um, I just it became very clear to me that this is 32:11.710 --> 32:16.930 Essentially an experience we're having inside the mind of god. So that's that's basically where I went with it 32:16.930 --> 32:17.330 um 32:17.850 --> 32:20.870 And I started talking about that and I think a lot of other people 32:21.410 --> 32:25.630 Have started to come more and more to those sort of conclusions and you can of course go 32:25.630 --> 32:28.930 To the more organized religion route, uh, which 32:29.530 --> 32:33.250 Have mostly been like taken over and inverted for the most part 32:33.250 --> 32:38.210 But you know, there's people who like go with like the jesus way or whatever that is and i'm like cool 32:38.210 --> 32:42.670 Because like jesus sounds awesome. He said he did a lot of the stuff that i'm all about 32:42.670 --> 32:45.170 Like do one to others if you want them to do one to you 32:45.690 --> 32:50.850 The only time he got violent was with the government about taxes and with the central banksters 32:50.850 --> 32:52.630 And that's yeah 32:53.150 --> 32:56.710 So so i'm like he sounds exactly like my kind of guy 32:56.710 --> 33:01.570 But the thing with the the jesus stuff that I find with a lot of people is they kind of get into this 33:01.570 --> 33:04.490 Oh, if I just believe in jesus then everything will be okay 33:05.270 --> 33:10.890 I'm I'm more of the belief that uh, if jesus was real, uh, because I don't believe anything about anything 33:10.890 --> 33:16.330 Like nothing in this street video game. I don't believe any anything. I'm told, but if he was real that 33:17.030 --> 33:20.050 You were supposed to be like him is what you're supposed to be really 33:20.610 --> 33:26.230 And I I don't see a lot of christian people actually trying to be and do the work 33:26.230 --> 33:30.070 It actually takes a lot of work. You've got to get out your program 33:30.070 --> 33:32.710 And you've got to figure out your addictions you've got to 33:33.410 --> 33:37.510 It's hard work and that's what I personally did over like a 10-year period as you mentioned 33:37.510 --> 33:44.190 I used to drink a lot and I had to do the hard work on myself the shadow work the self work 33:44.870 --> 33:48.910 The deep meditation to get to kind of like get to a new level 33:49.590 --> 33:52.810 And that I think is where uh everyone should go and in fact 33:52.810 --> 33:57.650 I actually say there's actually nothing to be done really in this world in my opinion 33:57.650 --> 34:02.150 Except for doing that work on yourself and once you do that work and you get physically 34:02.730 --> 34:03.570 Really good 34:03.570 --> 34:07.890 So you can't and you know there's a lot of stuff so even in the bible and stuff about you know 34:07.890 --> 34:11.670 You take care of your temple because if your temple if your body isn't good 34:12.250 --> 34:16.130 Then your mind doesn't really work all that well and if your mind's not working all that well 34:16.130 --> 34:17.630 You're not going to be able to get into 34:18.930 --> 34:21.790 Consciousness levels where you can really connect with the source 34:22.570 --> 34:22.970 So 34:23.550 --> 34:28.670 You know, I basically say make sure your your physical temples as good as can be then work on your mind 34:28.670 --> 34:31.190 And that's a whole other ball of worms or a bag of worms 34:31.870 --> 34:33.310 bag of worms can or 34:36.850 --> 34:40.090 I had a close a whole other can of worms there 34:40.650 --> 34:44.130 With you know, there's so much programming we've got and also all of our traumas 34:44.130 --> 34:46.970 That's what actually affects most people in their lives is their 34:47.970 --> 34:49.390 Traumas that they haven't gotten over 34:50.090 --> 34:54.590 And and that is so important for everyone to work on and then once you do that and if you can do that 34:54.590 --> 34:56.030 And it takes a while to take years 34:56.910 --> 35:02.590 Then you start to be able to get into this incredible space where you can just sit and connect more with 35:02.590 --> 35:06.250 The source of my opinion or rise up to a higher consciousness level 35:06.250 --> 35:09.010 And then a lot of this stuff just starts to become clear 35:09.010 --> 35:14.850 So for me personally that's been the route that I've took and and the fact that so many people in archipelago are kind of 35:14.850 --> 35:18.190 Doing similar now. I don't know if I caused that. I don't think I did 35:18.750 --> 35:19.730 But it's possible 35:19.730 --> 35:23.190 I there was a lot of people who came up and said I changed their lives and they started 35:23.750 --> 35:29.530 Doing things like what I was doing and then all of a sudden they've reached these sort of levels or conclusions as well 35:30.090 --> 35:34.490 But yeah, it has become a very different event from 12 years ago. That's for sure 35:35.030 --> 35:37.570 You know one thing I wanted to there was 35:38.270 --> 35:39.850 A lot of shortcuts for people 35:39.850 --> 35:42.710 It was there's always a was it 35:43.490 --> 35:47.490 ayahuasca and boofoo or boofoo or whatever the frog thing 35:47.490 --> 35:51.110 Which I found out that frog is here in the snoring desert. I get the monsoon 35:51.110 --> 35:54.490 I'll be hunting me some frogs, but you know the um 35:55.030 --> 35:58.430 Main thing was is that they would take and take 35:59.020 --> 36:06.570 Go through the ceremony. You got to prepare yourself. You know your diet and drinking and you know water and make sure you kind of 36:06.570 --> 36:08.730 You got a shaman go through this process 36:09.210 --> 36:11.930 And I remember going on the beach in the morning 36:11.930 --> 36:17.750 There will still be out there watching the sunrise and I just got up and they were up all all night and still under the influence 36:17.750 --> 36:21.510 And I would interview a lot of people and they had them come on the show and so on 36:22.070 --> 36:23.670 and it seems like these 36:24.410 --> 36:28.710 These drugs these chemicals these plants and animals and stuff 36:29.350 --> 36:33.030 Got them to a point to where they could process information 36:33.830 --> 36:41.030 Much faster their brain opens up and all of a sudden they're processing information about their entire life and therefore 36:41.590 --> 36:46.470 I'm not going back to chicago. I mean that kind of thing and it was um 36:47.250 --> 36:54.610 That was kind of the commonality that I got that it gave them the power to process their circumstances and think 36:54.610 --> 36:56.130 critically and deeply 36:56.590 --> 36:57.850 You know over a 36:57.850 --> 36:59.290 hour many hours 36:59.290 --> 37:04.730 It time compressed or something and they were able to process all this stuff and then 37:04.730 --> 37:09.590 Use their brain's capacity opened up to realize some truth 37:09.590 --> 37:15.690 Then the boo boo boo you can tell me about that the frog thing they um 37:16.470 --> 37:21.130 It's not a as long a trip. I mean, it's you know the influence over an hour or something like that 37:21.750 --> 37:24.770 And these are like shortcuts to what you're talking about 37:24.770 --> 37:31.810 Do you recommend the shortcuts for some people it's therapeutic or you just rather do the the long haul meditation thing? 37:31.910 --> 37:32.350 What do you think? 37:33.470 --> 37:37.530 Well, I should say that when I first decided to go down this road and do the self work 37:38.150 --> 37:40.430 More than 10 years ago. I started with ayahuasca 37:40.430 --> 37:43.890 I did it twice and it gave me some incredible insights that 37:43.890 --> 37:46.870 No one would have been able to give me except for the plant medicine 37:47.350 --> 37:50.110 And actually it was to to allow others to help me 37:50.790 --> 37:55.750 It showed me that in the ayahuasca and that's what I wasn't doing. I wasn't asking for help 37:55.750 --> 37:57.790 I thought I had to figure this all out out of myself 37:57.790 --> 38:02.050 But after the ayahuasca I began asking my wife for help and she started helping me 38:02.550 --> 38:09.830 And then I went on to do a boga which I actually do consider the most important plant medicine on earth by a million times over 38:09.830 --> 38:12.950 And it actually is nothing really all that psychedelic 38:12.950 --> 38:18.150 You just go into deep deep deep introspection for like two full days. And what's that called? 38:18.930 --> 38:20.690 Eboga it's from africa 38:21.410 --> 38:21.950 and 38:22.740 --> 38:27.870 You basically do like a deep meditation that in some ways seems like it lasts for years 38:27.870 --> 38:33.170 Like you're in there forever it seems and you your subconscious you look at your subconscious for like 38:33.760 --> 38:37.330 Two straight days and it's super hard because there's a lot of stuff in your subconscious 38:37.330 --> 38:42.310 You don't want to look at and that's actually your traumas and they're really hard to get to and really be seen 38:44.490 --> 38:48.350 But you can do that with the eboga so yeah when it comes to plant medicines 38:48.350 --> 38:52.670 I would say that they can be very very very helpful to people 38:53.290 --> 38:56.810 In some ways it might be the only way for some people to actually 38:57.590 --> 38:59.630 Reach higher levels basically 39:00.210 --> 39:05.710 Especially something like the eboga because otherwise it takes years and years and it's super hard and 39:06.570 --> 39:11.710 The the plant medicines actually make you have to go through it. So you're stuck there 39:12.290 --> 39:14.830 Like I'll give you an example like I could get into meditations 39:14.830 --> 39:19.270 And I'd get into some pretty deep meditation sometimes and all of a sudden a memory would come up from my childhood 39:19.690 --> 39:23.130 And it'd be something I didn't want to look at right and it'd be like, you know 39:23.130 --> 39:27.610 I was getting beat up by my dad or something like that and and I just kind of like wins and I'd 39:27.610 --> 39:31.130 Breathe and I'd like not look at it because it was so hard to look at right 39:31.130 --> 39:35.010 Like you're a little kid getting beat up by your own father like just a you know 39:35.010 --> 39:37.950 You can imagine like how traumatizing that is right? 39:38.470 --> 39:40.970 The person who's supposed to be there to protect you right? 39:42.250 --> 39:47.290 So anyway, uh when I do that in the meditations, I would I'd run away from it 39:47.290 --> 39:51.450 I just I wouldn't want to look at it. But when I did the eboga, I've done it twice now 39:51.450 --> 39:58.330 I did it once uh over 10 years about 10 years ago and I did it again just a few months ago in egypt at the pyramids 39:58.330 --> 40:07.770 And in this one it it made me look at my entire childhood for what seemed like years and look at every little detail of it feel every emotion 40:09.710 --> 40:13.630 Just relive it and and and feel it again and by doing that 40:13.630 --> 40:19.490 I actually ended up over the course of time healing it all and it actually changed my life dramatically afterwards 40:19.490 --> 40:22.210 So yeah when it comes to some of these plant medicines 40:22.930 --> 40:27.870 Like there's a reason that uh, some of these, you know, native americans and stuff like that 40:28.410 --> 40:33.730 Do these things they're they're actually like I actually say if everyone on earth was forced to do eboga 40:34.390 --> 40:40.110 We would have peace of rusterity on earth like we've never known it about a week later once they got over it and then 40:40.110 --> 40:41.470 And they recovered from it 40:42.010 --> 40:46.690 Because it will show them everything about themselves and they will be able to fix themselves 40:46.690 --> 40:50.290 And that's what I was saying earlier most people's problems are all caused by their own mind 40:50.290 --> 40:52.070 And that's what we need to really get 40:53.270 --> 40:58.090 Repaired or fixed or healed you could say in order and then once you do that though 40:58.630 --> 41:03.910 Incredible things happen and you mentioned that some of these people were able to process massive amounts of information 41:04.470 --> 41:12.410 Yeah, you can almost become like superhuman as you do these different levels of of self work basically what you can do with plant medicines as well 41:13.170 --> 41:17.630 You know, I've been invited, you know a bunch of times, you know, come on Ernie come on come on 41:17.630 --> 41:19.250 And I just haven't had the time 41:19.250 --> 41:25.070 I mean, you know, it's like I got responsibilities. I got to do stuff. It's not that you know, I wouldn't try it 41:25.070 --> 41:26.050 It's just that 41:26.530 --> 41:34.030 You know, and I'd love to have a shaman somebody experienced friends come out here on the land and do that feel safe 41:34.030 --> 41:37.950 And donna baby sent me but you know, it's also I'm like 41:38.550 --> 41:40.230 I don't know I need my pain 41:40.230 --> 41:44.550 I mean, you know a lot of what my life experience brought me to where I want to be now 41:44.550 --> 41:47.810 I'm not sure I would benefit or I don't know 41:47.810 --> 41:50.550 But you know, it everybody that I talked to 41:50.550 --> 41:57.670 There was a benefit they they got the process now some people they're they're they're coming up against their demons or whatever 41:57.670 --> 42:02.170 You know, they it's uncomfortable. You got to go through that and then uh, you know 42:02.670 --> 42:06.810 I don't know anyone that's done it once that says they wouldn't do it again 42:06.810 --> 42:11.850 Have you come across those people go? I'm not okay. I'm glad okay. I expect by not doing that anymore 42:11.850 --> 42:13.310 Have you gotten that response? 42:14.530 --> 42:17.270 Well, I was one of those people after the first time I did a bogey 42:17.270 --> 42:20.350 It picked the crap out of me so badly because I needed it 42:20.350 --> 42:25.970 I was basically depressed and suicidal and didn't want to live and all those sort of things 42:25.970 --> 42:29.430 And I did it as a last resort and it kicked the crap out of me 42:29.430 --> 42:34.250 It made me look at everything so much and it was super hard and when I was done 42:34.250 --> 42:38.050 I said I'll never ever ever do that again and it's because it was so hard 42:38.050 --> 42:42.790 But what I didn't realize is all the things that ended up happening over the next 10 years 42:42.790 --> 42:47.790 was because of that work I did with the aboga and then I got to the point where 42:47.790 --> 42:52.590 uh, Christoph Mckiesedek was doing it in Egypt right at the pyramids and I 42:53.070 --> 42:56.190 I'd said even months before that I'll never do a bogey again 42:56.190 --> 42:59.050 It was way too hard. Uh, but uh, he kind of convinced me 42:59.050 --> 43:02.990 He's like don't worry. You've you've done enough work now that it won't be that hard this time 43:03.510 --> 43:07.770 So I tried it again and it was still very very hard, but nothing like the first time 43:07.770 --> 43:09.390 But yeah, that was uh 43:09.890 --> 43:12.190 You know, so I was even like I'll never do that again 43:12.190 --> 43:17.730 But what I will say is that the uh, all the experiences I've had from all of them 43:17.730 --> 43:24.110 And I've done most plant medicines now all have been very beneficial and definitely nothing negative for me at all 43:26.010 --> 43:27.950 That's I you know, I'm 43:29.030 --> 43:35.490 I'm willing to experiment with you know people I trust that you know know what's up, but um 43:36.310 --> 43:37.130 I like 43:37.790 --> 43:43.650 My clarity of the I I think I get it, you know, I don't get all you know 43:44.510 --> 43:45.670 hyperbolic about anything 43:45.670 --> 43:46.630 I you know, I just 43:47.210 --> 43:54.250 Here it comes and we got to get ready for that's what you know occupy land things about but I'm I'm just like um 43:54.790 --> 44:01.170 What do you see the future is going to be your experiences talking to people around the world all the news that we got 44:01.170 --> 44:06.690 What happened part of my art to Ecuador now? Oh my god, you know around Russia China 44:06.690 --> 44:13.230 I mean, it's like damn, you know our bingo card is full. So I'm just this has been 44:13.810 --> 44:14.290 um 44:14.910 --> 44:20.210 A dampening effect on a lot of people about the future and I'm seeing abundance 44:20.210 --> 44:23.810 I mean it it you know this too shall break. What's your opinion? 44:25.230 --> 44:28.430 Well at the heart of it, I actually don't worry about anything 44:28.430 --> 44:30.750 This is all an experience that we're meant to have 44:31.370 --> 44:34.450 This we all have our own true man show in my opinion 44:35.170 --> 44:40.950 And it's perfectly tailored. We have to go through exactly what we have to go through some of it's very hard 44:40.950 --> 44:45.170 In order to learn in order to power up to the next level and stuff like that 44:45.170 --> 44:47.830 So when it comes to like what's going to happen with the world 44:48.670 --> 44:50.710 I don't worry about it whatsoever 44:51.570 --> 44:55.730 I know that this is actually not fully based reality 44:56.330 --> 45:00.870 Even as jesus would say he said I am in this world, but not of this world and 45:01.410 --> 45:03.490 You know when you come to that realization 45:04.050 --> 45:07.670 You don't worry about a thing and that's not to say that I don't 45:08.190 --> 45:08.790 You know 45:09.370 --> 45:11.490 Take care of things I need to take care of 45:11.490 --> 45:16.030 Like I'm living on a ranch with a blue roof right now for the directed energy weapons 45:16.530 --> 45:19.410 I'm growing all my own food because they're poisoning the food supply 45:20.810 --> 45:21.250 I 45:21.810 --> 45:25.730 You know, I'm I'm doing all those sort of things. So it's not like I 45:25.730 --> 45:29.630 Like I'm completely like just like I'm not worried about anything 45:29.630 --> 45:33.930 But I you know inside the video game inside this experience inside this true man show 45:34.530 --> 45:35.410 I do 45:35.990 --> 45:36.690 you know 45:37.270 --> 45:41.550 Pay attention to everything going on and be careful and you know that sort of a thing 45:42.170 --> 45:47.370 But at the end of the day, I don't worry at all because there's only one thing 45:47.370 --> 45:51.830 And this is the realization I've come to over the years is there's only one thing that exists 45:51.830 --> 45:55.230 There's only one thing that's ever existed never will exist and that's consciousness 45:55.230 --> 46:00.670 And that's what we are and we're having just this experience inside consciousness and and I think 46:00.670 --> 46:06.450 In some respect all this stuff going on like just look at how tyrannical like even when we were talking about freedom 46:06.450 --> 46:07.690 Like 20 years ago 46:07.690 --> 46:12.670 We I don't think we could ever imagine like everything that's happened in the last five or 10 years the kobe 46:12.670 --> 46:17.150 I can't believe that even happened. They locked down the entire world over a fake 46:17.370 --> 46:22.750 Sort of virus thing and then tried to inject everyone with poison. They gave them french fries to do it and they did it 46:22.750 --> 46:26.950 Um, like we're living crispy cream doughnuts. They almost had me there 46:28.810 --> 46:29.970 Yeah, so like 46:30.570 --> 46:35.730 Like I couldn't even imagine this stuff like 10 or 20 years ago and now we're living in and I think it's you know 46:35.730 --> 46:37.110 It's just all part of the video game 46:37.110 --> 46:41.370 Like and I think what we have to do right inside the video game is figure out our own path 46:41.370 --> 46:45.270 And you know first of all making sure you never sell your soul and that would be 46:45.270 --> 46:47.870 You know doing something that's not right 46:47.870 --> 46:51.370 In exchange for some sort of profit to yourself like money 46:51.370 --> 46:54.550 Most people on earth have already sold their souls from in various ways 46:55.090 --> 47:01.190 So keeping your soul intact and then figuring out the video game figuring out exactly what's going on and like 47:01.190 --> 47:05.470 Trying to weave your way around all of the massive massive 47:05.910 --> 47:10.030 Like stuff like like they're chem trailing most of the world right now. So what are you going to do with that? 47:10.110 --> 47:11.890 Well, you better be detoxing that's for sure 47:12.690 --> 47:16.170 They're uh trying to inject everyone with poison to try to inject people with nanotech 47:16.170 --> 47:21.350 And what are you going to do about that? You said you better be peacoxing. What what the hell's that? What detoxing? 47:21.790 --> 47:26.010 Uh, you know with the chem trails you're getting a lot of aluminum and stuff into your body 47:26.010 --> 47:29.670 You can actually detox a lot of bit out even with just things like saunas and certain 47:30.250 --> 47:35.130 You know heavy metals sort of detox sort of things. Um, so yeah, you have to learn all these things 47:35.130 --> 47:39.130 They're poisoning the food supply. So what are you going to do? You're going to go live on the land grow your own food 47:39.130 --> 47:44.050 Okay. Now you've passed that level, right? So and then kill gates is trying to block out the sun. What are you going to do? 47:44.590 --> 47:45.150 I'm like, wow 47:46.750 --> 47:52.770 Like it's amazing like it's incredible and uh, it's so much fun to try to win this video game 47:52.770 --> 47:56.470 That i'm just enjoying playing the game. That's really all i'm doing at this point 47:57.310 --> 48:00.030 You know, I think people are influenced by your 48:01.030 --> 48:07.490 positive aspects on this and point out what is and isn't you know important, but um 48:07.970 --> 48:15.290 The health thing, you know, that that's always been a theme of narcopoco. It seems and a lot of it, you know, clean food and you know 48:15.290 --> 48:16.870 living right, but um 48:17.350 --> 48:21.850 You you looked I I wanted to mention that top of the show. I'm just going look at jeff 48:21.850 --> 48:25.610 I mean he looks younger than what I mean. I'm sure you know cutting alcohol didn't hurt 48:25.610 --> 48:30.970 But you know, he's always got something up there kind of you know, the tesla plasma of whatever and 48:30.970 --> 48:35.050 There's a whatever and take this whatever and supplement whatever and you need more testosterone 48:35.050 --> 48:36.630 I mean, you know, whatever it is 48:36.630 --> 48:43.190 But let's talk about the tesla plasma machine. That thing was not free. It's like 11 000 dollars 48:43.190 --> 48:47.010 One of the guys bought it and he put it under our ticket. I store this here. Yeah, whatever 48:47.010 --> 48:51.830 It's kate. I'm like damn did it happen? Well, yeah, I thought it was pretty worth. I wouldn't bought it 48:51.830 --> 48:56.890 You know, so go ahead and I'll let you do you commercial on this thing just because 48:56.890 --> 49:02.170 You know, it's a thing but go ahead and tell people what that was about and I'll pull up your site here for it 49:02.670 --> 49:07.590 Well, I shouldn't say like I'm not involved with the tesla club like um, I just 49:08.030 --> 49:14.970 I've become like a member basically. I was like one of the first members they they came to me and they showed me the machine about two years ago 49:15.550 --> 49:20.870 And uh, I was just like most people they're like, yeah, here's basically everything at the age is you all this sort of stuff 49:20.870 --> 49:23.310 And I was like, yeah, yeah, I hear all kinds of stuff like that 49:23.310 --> 49:28.730 And uh, they gave me one of the machines and um, I actually healed my dog bruce lee's eye 49:28.730 --> 49:32.710 Which was completely white within two days with it and I was like, oh, that's interesting 49:33.370 --> 49:36.350 And then I had a maid who had a bad back for more than a decade 49:36.350 --> 49:42.210 And she was just about to quit and I put it on her back for 15 minutes and she's like the next day 49:42.210 --> 49:43.150 She was lugging 49:43.690 --> 49:47.110 Large packages around the house. No problem. She's been fine ever since 49:47.750 --> 49:52.910 So I went and I've used it with like probably hundreds of people now and every almost every time 49:52.910 --> 49:55.190 Uh, it cures whatever their problem is so 49:55.770 --> 49:59.170 I was like, okay, this is real. So I I was talking to them 49:59.170 --> 50:01.630 I'm like, you guys got to get this out to people and 50:01.630 --> 50:04.530 And they were like, well big pharma will probably kill us 50:04.530 --> 50:09.050 So, you know, if if they find out who we are and I'm like, well, you guys are smart on narco capitalist type people 50:09.050 --> 50:11.670 I met them at a narcopoco. I said, you know 50:12.110 --> 50:17.170 To an underground people can pay with Monero. You'll ship it anywhere in the world as a science kit 50:17.170 --> 50:20.730 It actually looks like it's nothing too special too to get by customs 50:20.730 --> 50:27.210 Um and all that kind of stuff. Um, so yeah, like I've I've just been helping them along the way because I believe in it 50:27.210 --> 50:30.590 So much I think it's so like to me personally, this is the biggest 50:31.910 --> 50:34.210 Re rediscovery of our lifetimes by far 50:34.210 --> 50:39.390 There's nothing that even comes close and I say rediscovery because I think people used to have access to this stuff 50:39.390 --> 50:42.250 Because nicola tesla did it about a hundred years ago. He had 50:42.990 --> 50:43.870 basically tesla 50:44.310 --> 50:49.310 Plasma machines back then and then donald trump's uncle and the cia came in and stole it 50:49.310 --> 50:53.150 And they've managed to keep it mostly hidden from him humanity for about a hundred years 50:53.690 --> 50:57.270 But a mad scientist in mexico a literally crazy guy 50:57.770 --> 51:04.250 Stumbled across a way to create not only the plasma that nicola tesla was doing but like way more effective way 51:04.250 --> 51:08.110 Stronger and it could run way longer because the old machines could run for like 10 minutes 51:08.610 --> 51:11.490 but this one can run for like all day if you want and 51:12.110 --> 51:12.930 and so 51:13.490 --> 51:16.710 They just started doing it about a year and a half ago just putting it out 51:16.710 --> 51:22.710 And so many people have been healed from it now the like paralysis people people couldn't walk dogs who couldn't walk 51:23.290 --> 51:24.690 All of a sudden now can walk 51:25.470 --> 51:31.230 People are gonna have to legs amputated and then a few weeks later. They're like walking miles a day and they're fine 51:31.830 --> 51:33.070 multiple sclerosis lady 51:33.070 --> 51:37.710 The mechanism is tricky 51:38.310 --> 51:41.650 Because it's nothing that you can fully explain 51:41.650 --> 51:46.470 Basically, uh, when you look at plasma and what nicola tesla said about plasma 51:46.470 --> 51:49.730 And you know plasma used to be talked about quite a bit even 51:49.730 --> 51:57.050 Ether what used to be in the periodic table of elements and stuff and they actually took it out about like when rockefeller took over all the medicine stuff 51:57.730 --> 52:01.270 Like a hundred and some years ago. Uh, they they hid all this stuff 52:01.270 --> 52:04.770 But basically what it appears to be is 52:05.310 --> 52:07.110 It it appears to re 52:07.990 --> 52:11.190 Take your cells which most of our cells like i'll give you one example 52:11.190 --> 52:15.750 I did a uh quantum biofeedback machine one year after I had the tesla machine 52:15.750 --> 52:18.670 I used it almost every day because it gives me incredible energy 52:19.180 --> 52:23.910 Like insane amount of energy like I can just go like all week in narco pogo was like no problem 52:23.910 --> 52:25.450 What's why I just go go go no problem? 52:26.110 --> 52:31.650 Uh because I have so much energy from the machine and I did the uh quantum biofeedback machine last year to narco pogo 52:32.230 --> 52:38.630 And uh, i'm 55 years old. I was 54 last year and uh, my tissue age was the same as a 30 year old 52:38.630 --> 52:40.970 And I had the energy of my cells of a 10 year old 52:41.690 --> 52:45.830 And that's exactly what I was feeling and actually I could I can just like I've 52:45.830 --> 52:48.550 It seems like i'm de-aging in so many different ways 52:49.410 --> 52:54.830 And what we think or no one knows exactly but it appears the plasma which you can get out of the ether 52:54.830 --> 52:59.930 So it's all around us. Uh, that's the incredible thing. That's the most beautiful thing about all this stuff is 52:59.930 --> 53:04.390 You know, you have big pharma and the doctors and the guys in the butcher coats with the really bad handwriting 53:04.390 --> 53:08.510 And they'll tell you they can't cure anything big pharma has never cured anything ever 53:08.510 --> 53:12.990 But they've got a million pills that'll make your life maybe a little better and then worse later 53:12.990 --> 53:15.790 And then you know, you'll be broken dead at the end of it 53:15.790 --> 53:19.270 When we actually have all that we need all around us 53:19.270 --> 53:25.270 We just need a way to be able to grab that out of the ether and that's what the the tesla machine does and 53:26.070 --> 53:34.150 What it basically does is it appears to revert your cells back to full functionality because most sickness is actually just because 53:34.390 --> 53:42.830 People's cells their body just isn't operating properly because it's toxic with either all the toxins that is all around us with everything 53:42.830 --> 53:49.730 Or even emotional toxins and and emotional trauma can actually be in your body 53:50.610 --> 53:53.270 So every what we think we don't know 53:53.270 --> 53:58.490 Is that it resorts your cells to like full electric functionality again 53:58.490 --> 54:02.730 And when your body does that your body can heal itself of anything your body is an incredible 54:03.530 --> 54:04.010 magical 54:04.750 --> 54:09.590 Uh mystery basically like like what else do you have like I don't know how you are Ernie 54:09.590 --> 54:14.270 But like I don't have anything that's 55 years old that I haven't really taken all that much care of 54:14.270 --> 54:17.790 That still runs like awesome except for my body, right? 54:18.290 --> 54:23.130 Like like everything else breaks after a couple of years. It just gets old or creaky and just dies 54:23.130 --> 54:25.610 You got to replace parts and all this sort of stuff 54:25.610 --> 54:27.010 But this body is amazing 54:27.010 --> 54:30.010 But what we have to do is be able to make it run optimally 54:30.010 --> 54:34.110 and of course there's other things involved in that like diet and exercise and stuff like that but 54:35.150 --> 54:40.370 Most of the problems that people have is because their body is just toxic and it could be like I said physical 54:40.370 --> 54:47.090 It could even be emotional or trauma based and this plasma out of the ether appears to bring those 54:47.610 --> 54:49.170 parts of your body back to 54:49.690 --> 54:55.130 Full function and when it does that whatever this ease that the doctors and the butcher coats tell you have 54:55.130 --> 54:58.170 Which is just a description of a problem that you have 54:58.710 --> 55:02.010 Usually seems to go away because the body can actually heal itself 55:02.010 --> 55:05.890 If it has the energy and the and the full functionality to do it 55:05.890 --> 55:10.010 Uh, and so that's what we think it does, but we don't really even know. It's incredible 55:10.010 --> 55:15.370 What do you what do you think it is that had the biggest uh, and I you know, I don't want to 55:15.770 --> 55:16.790 harp on it too much 55:16.790 --> 55:19.730 But when jeff came over just to hang 55:20.410 --> 55:25.230 Conversation we're setting up and so on. We're just yakking and I'm looking at I'm like a holy shit 55:25.230 --> 55:28.930 You look like 10 years younger when I saw you last. What do you think? 55:29.910 --> 55:35.290 Was mostly responsible for that was your emotional state, you know, your cleansing of your mind 55:35.290 --> 55:37.290 Uh getting your mind right 55:38.390 --> 55:42.530 Detoxine the plasma thing all combined no alcohol 55:42.530 --> 55:44.850 I mean you you went full tilt on 55:45.410 --> 55:46.950 Getting healthier and better 55:46.950 --> 55:49.530 But what do you think was the most effective thing? 55:50.730 --> 55:54.490 Well, I would say it's all of it for sure. Definitely stopping the alcohol 55:55.310 --> 55:57.150 Was a huge power up for me 55:57.750 --> 55:59.430 Then I got a much better diet 55:59.430 --> 56:04.010 Then I started exercising and then I kind of went pretty wild with all kinds of things 56:04.010 --> 56:08.230 I've got a hyperbaric chamber in my house. Um, I've got a lot of good things about that 56:08.230 --> 56:11.390 Yeah, I've got a steam room and a sauna 56:11.990 --> 56:13.650 I've got a cold plunge pool 56:13.650 --> 56:17.450 So I do all those things and those have definitely all contributed 56:17.450 --> 56:21.450 But I would say the biggest change has been since I've had the 56:21.450 --> 56:27.350 Tesla machine two years ago because I couldn't actually do a lot of those things because I I felt kind of like sluggish, right? 56:27.490 --> 56:33.350 Like I actually spent three to four hours a day in my spa gym every single day doing all these things 56:33.890 --> 56:36.490 Um, but I I never had the energy to do it before 56:36.490 --> 56:41.290 But once I had the Tesla machine all of a sudden I had the just basically unlimited energy 56:41.290 --> 56:45.390 So I'm like, yeah, I'll go to the gym. I'll go on the treadmill. I'll lift some weight. So I'll go 56:45.930 --> 56:50.350 In the steam room. I'll go on the sauna. I'll go on the cold plunge pool. I'll go get some sun outside 56:50.890 --> 56:58.050 I'll go in the hyperbaric chamber just like everything just seemed so easy once I my body was just working so well with so much energy 56:58.570 --> 57:01.110 So yeah, I would say it's it's definitely a combination of things 57:01.110 --> 57:04.990 But by far the biggest difference has actually come from the Tesla machine 57:05.990 --> 57:07.490 Well, a lot of the 57:08.190 --> 57:14.630 This work you do on yourself and people should do and they get their mind and bodies right and so on 57:15.150 --> 57:15.850 it it 57:16.650 --> 57:18.750 In america, we are so 57:20.190 --> 57:25.810 Inundated it's in the water. It's a fluoride. It's the chemicals. It's a centralized 57:25.810 --> 57:31.310 We got, you know a water treatment plant for you and you have the air 57:31.310 --> 57:35.650 I mean, I'm out here in the desert and I'm like, damn, there'd be chemtrail and something 57:35.650 --> 57:41.510 You know, I take some pictures and I say I go what the heck is that and you can see it kind of go you could spirit 57:41.510 --> 57:46.070 I'm going. Hey, man. I'm just saying this is not normal. This is abby normal. Okay 57:46.070 --> 57:50.770 I'm just like this is not what I grew up with. I'm just saying 57:51.410 --> 57:54.250 Well, what do you think? I don't know but it ain't normal 57:54.830 --> 57:59.150 And then you have what's in our food. What's in our in our in our 57:59.890 --> 58:01.210 After you do this 58:02.470 --> 58:05.350 I'm wondering can you do it in america? 58:06.290 --> 58:12.250 Is it even possible to get away from a lot of this coming? You know, we do you don't azer gardens and you know, we do 58:12.250 --> 58:19.670 Best we can but you know, I'm is there another place to be as america it when I was on the beach in panama 58:19.670 --> 58:25.710 Doing a little walkabout about what was going on in part of iarta with the the violence so on if there was any 58:25.710 --> 58:31.470 I mean there was definitely smoke every half mile. They made sure, you know, it looked like a gaza, but the um 58:32.750 --> 58:33.550 As i'm 58:33.550 --> 58:37.410 Doing that i'm just is it america. Is that where we got to be? 58:37.650 --> 58:41.810 Is it mexico? Is it somewhere else? Is it anywhere? Is it space? Is it out in the ocean? 58:42.110 --> 58:44.870 Is it you know, where's your community? Where's galt's gulch? 58:44.990 --> 58:48.810 And you got to find it or can you create it yourself, you know in your own 58:48.810 --> 58:51.790 Area by doing the work on yourself your body your mind 58:52.350 --> 58:55.950 What do you think is there you know, do we got to occupy the land? 58:56.290 --> 59:01.570 Somewhere else or not even the land or space or go orbit mars mining asteroids 59:01.570 --> 59:05.690 I mean, what is it that you think that we should be focused on? 59:06.590 --> 59:09.750 Where we try and be free is there a place? 59:10.910 --> 59:14.610 Well, I would start with everyone needs to really do the work on themselves 59:14.610 --> 59:15.410 uh 59:15.410 --> 59:21.170 We're just talking about to get out all these programs and get it physically mentally and spiritually really good 59:21.170 --> 59:23.650 And then actually all this stuff becomes very 59:23.650 --> 59:27.950 Obvious you see signs and symbols you get all kinds of downloads and stuff. So 59:28.670 --> 59:32.650 Like I would say like there is no one place that is you know safe 59:33.090 --> 59:34.050 There you know 59:34.690 --> 59:39.090 And we didn't come to play this video game to be safe anyway, but 59:39.590 --> 59:43.210 Uh, I would say for the most part trust your intuition and your gut 59:43.890 --> 59:48.810 So, you know if you feel like that's where you should be and you've done that you sit there, right? 59:48.810 --> 59:53.010 You do you're like meditating in the morning you just like for an hour and you're like, you know 59:53.010 --> 59:58.730 Just trying to feel and you even ask the question, you know, should I be here and all of a sudden it becomes this like 59:59.330 --> 01:00:03.570 Your body feels it and it goes. Yes, you're supposed to be here. Then that's where you're supposed to be 01:00:03.570 --> 01:00:07.950 So that's that's what everyone needs to do. You really need to go inside for the answers 01:00:08.650 --> 01:00:13.390 Um, and there is no safe place. Uh, but if you do the work, uh 01:00:13.930 --> 01:00:16.750 Really, there's nothing ever to worry about at all. Um 01:00:17.290 --> 01:00:22.050 And even inside this video game if you do the work you actually get through everything 01:00:22.050 --> 01:00:25.730 You actually get you become like superhuman if you do the work. Um 01:00:26.270 --> 01:00:30.510 Sort of like being a Jedi like uh, like even with the port of art to stuff, right? 01:00:30.570 --> 01:00:33.410 Like nothing happened to any of our people and I think uh 01:00:33.410 --> 01:00:36.650 Big part of that is because a lot of us are doing the work 01:00:36.650 --> 01:00:39.790 And so a lot of our people just walk through it like no problem 01:00:39.790 --> 01:00:42.490 And you know, it really wasn't a major massive event 01:00:42.490 --> 01:00:46.470 It looked like it was at first and and of course in the news they said it was 01:00:46.750 --> 01:00:51.070 It was just a bunch of buses on fire for the most part. Um, but because a lot of us 01:00:51.070 --> 01:00:58.570 strategically located to make sure the town looked under smoke of I sit there and watched it from Panama and I'm going 01:00:59.150 --> 01:01:04.970 Oh, this is so manipulative staged up. There's something, you know, Trump you got to get rid of the 01:01:04.970 --> 01:01:11.730 fentanyl deal with the president of Mexico and take out one guy do kind of then we'll do Ecuador, Venezuela 01:01:11.730 --> 01:01:18.510 A random kind of there's a thing and I'm just this is not, you know, what they're trying to depict 01:01:18.970 --> 01:01:22.950 And I just that let let's get to that real quick 01:01:22.950 --> 01:01:26.450 I don't want to spend a lot of time on it because it just make you talk about it 01:01:26.450 --> 01:01:30.270 But um, are you going to go back to part of our tell you think next year? 01:01:31.090 --> 01:01:35.210 Well, one of the interesting things was there was still a lot of people there when this terror attack 01:01:35.210 --> 01:01:41.210 Happened which was mostly staged. Uh, it was mostly a show. Um, and it was done on purpose for 01:01:41.210 --> 01:01:42.850 Yeah, mostly theater 01:01:42.850 --> 01:01:49.450 Uh, and most of our people didn't fall for in fact max egan was out right as it was happening just with his camera laughing 01:01:49.450 --> 01:01:54.670 Uh, a lot of alternative media people were there and they're going out and showing it's like there's nothing really happening 01:01:54.670 --> 01:02:00.610 There's just a bunch of buses that are on fire and then actually another person went out and he saw that a bunch of the windshields 01:02:00.610 --> 01:02:01.750 Were all melted and stuff 01:02:01.750 --> 01:02:05.310 So we actually suspect there might have been directed energy weapons involved 01:02:05.310 --> 01:02:10.810 But they actually picked the worst place to do this this thing because all of us are like used to this stuff 01:02:10.810 --> 01:02:13.810 And we've all done the work. We're not scared of anything. We're not fearful 01:02:14.590 --> 01:02:16.930 We're investigative and all that sort of thing 01:02:16.930 --> 01:02:19.690 So it's kind of interesting like even a day after that happened 01:02:19.690 --> 01:02:23.590 There was still a lot of people there and a lot of them went to maxis bar that night and they're all like 01:02:23.590 --> 01:02:28.950 Yeah, I can't wait to come back next year. Even though it was like, you know, this terrorizing event, right? But 01:02:29.650 --> 01:02:34.330 So yeah, most people I asked at the end of the event and this is before the terror attack 01:02:34.330 --> 01:02:38.750 But I think it's still the same that most people would like to have it back in port of air to next year 01:02:38.750 --> 01:02:42.210 So we probably will where we have it that's up for debate 01:02:42.210 --> 01:02:44.930 We're going to be sending out a survey to everyone who came to the event 01:02:44.930 --> 01:02:52.350 We're thinking we might even do it outside of like port of art itself and like san pancho and areas like that are on the 01:02:52.350 --> 01:02:56.130 On the coast there about 45 minutes from port of air to 01:02:56.650 --> 01:02:59.490 But that's all to be decided. But uh, yeah, so 01:02:59.490 --> 01:03:02.150 Okay, I want to have a vote I get a vote 01:03:03.090 --> 01:03:05.950 Everyone gets a vote, you know, we we all believe in the democracy 01:03:05.950 --> 01:03:09.170 You know, like that's democracy is, you know, the most important thing 01:03:10.950 --> 01:03:17.270 You know, I think I I really like the uh, an orc apoco because it was 01:03:18.250 --> 01:03:18.730 um 01:03:19.290 --> 01:03:24.930 Broke up into a lot of different groups you get to meet people and talk and so on you go see what you want to see 01:03:25.510 --> 01:03:26.470 and um 01:03:26.470 --> 01:03:30.870 You had the beach and it was on you the vendors the massage tables 01:03:30.870 --> 01:03:36.070 You got the uh different resorts or different things that you've done in the past on the beach 01:03:36.070 --> 01:03:39.310 This wasn't on the beach now. We were next to the beach 01:03:39.310 --> 01:03:41.530 I mean you could go to the beach if you wanted to 01:03:41.530 --> 01:03:46.470 But to have it at a resort that was on the beach added something to it 01:03:46.470 --> 01:03:50.910 And it also kept a lot of the people in the same place that you could do that 01:03:50.910 --> 01:03:58.350 It was it was pleasurable. It was nice. You really taxed out the taxis and the uber's but the um 01:03:58.970 --> 01:04:05.550 It was it was pleasant. It was nice. I mean if it was there again, you know, I think it'd be cool 01:04:06.050 --> 01:04:11.310 But I'm really like the the beach experience that there was one thing that I missed, you know 01:04:11.310 --> 01:04:14.910 And if that could be accomplished that would be cool. Um 01:04:15.430 --> 01:04:18.190 There is a lot of um 01:04:19.590 --> 01:04:22.930 Predictions that I wanted to just get your opinion on 01:04:23.610 --> 01:04:24.130 um 01:04:24.930 --> 01:04:31.450 You know you talk about all the political stuff, you know the midterms and this guy said that and who gets prosecuted and 01:04:31.450 --> 01:04:37.730 You know, are you gonna arrest anybody about anything and aren't you know in the wars and rumors of wars and all this stuff 01:04:37.730 --> 01:04:42.270 It just it seems to me. What if they had a war and nobody came or cared? 01:04:42.690 --> 01:04:49.790 You know, and I'm feeling that I'm just like man, you guys do you we're insulated from we're getting away from 01:04:49.790 --> 01:04:54.290 We're getting our mind, right? You know, we're in the right place. We've found our tribe 01:04:54.290 --> 01:04:59.210 We're focusing on our family and new family and and the community and so on 01:04:59.690 --> 01:05:00.130 Um 01:05:00.670 --> 01:05:04.290 Give us a view into the future a little bit. You know, what do you think's going to happen? 01:05:07.410 --> 01:05:13.610 Man, that's a tough question. Um, I think the entire um, this is actually great news for us 01:05:13.610 --> 01:05:15.930 I think all these governments um 01:05:15.930 --> 01:05:19.070 And central banks they're all going to be collapsing in the next couple years 01:05:19.070 --> 01:05:19.850 um 01:05:19.850 --> 01:05:26.910 And then what how that plays out and what happens will be a little bumpy at the very least for a lot of people 01:05:27.550 --> 01:05:31.590 Uh, that's why I'm quite a big proponent of getting out of major cities 01:05:32.170 --> 01:05:36.350 Getting, you know, like where you are there where I am here on my ranch 01:05:36.970 --> 01:05:42.950 Because I think as a lot of these things collapse, which is awesome and going to be so incredible 01:05:43.650 --> 01:05:48.710 That it's going to be very messy because so many people are so in-neared and so tied to the system 01:05:49.670 --> 01:05:53.190 That's uh, you know when the grocery store is closed when the banks collapse 01:05:53.190 --> 01:05:58.370 You know, I wouldn't want to be in like new york city when that happened, right? 01:05:59.050 --> 01:06:00.870 Um, and there's all kinds of other things 01:06:00.870 --> 01:06:02.590 But I think the more that people just 01:06:02.590 --> 01:06:07.730 Do what you're saying and just detach from the system and go off wherever they go 01:06:07.730 --> 01:06:11.130 And create their new life and their new economy and their new 01:06:11.130 --> 01:06:15.770 Whatever they're going to do grow their own food. I think the more that people do that the better 01:06:15.770 --> 01:06:17.390 um, and I think 01:06:18.070 --> 01:06:24.970 If they're smart, uh, if they're paying attention, uh, if they're doing the work, uh, they will probably have a 01:06:25.590 --> 01:06:30.790 Be able to survive the next couple years and then after that, I think we could go on to an incredible new world 01:06:30.790 --> 01:06:33.670 That would be yeah, just incredible 01:06:33.670 --> 01:06:38.850 But you're going to have to survive the collapse of the old world. Uh, you're going to have to be smart to do that 01:06:39.430 --> 01:06:41.730 You know one thing before you go, I 01:06:42.370 --> 01:06:43.270 On narcopoco 01:06:44.530 --> 01:06:52.130 Always videos it you get access to it. You able to see, you know, uh, the videos that you missed and so on 01:06:52.130 --> 01:06:56.570 Um, you know, I'm sure I got access as a speaker thing whatever 01:06:57.070 --> 01:07:01.850 But there was a bunch of things that I missed that I wanted to see because of scheduling 01:07:01.850 --> 01:07:03.570 There was so much going on 01:07:04.290 --> 01:07:06.010 How do I get to the videos man? 01:07:06.010 --> 01:07:10.310 You know, it's you know, pipping out for the people we can go watch videos. What's that? 01:07:11.490 --> 01:07:13.630 Yeah, you can get them at narcopoco.com 01:07:14.170 --> 01:07:18.110 I don't know exactly where it is on the website, but it should be there probably near the top 01:07:18.110 --> 01:07:24.190 Get virtual tickets or replays and uh, yeah go to tickets and then if you go there, they should 01:07:24.730 --> 01:07:29.850 If you click on tickets, I think you have to actually click on it. I think it should open down below 01:07:29.850 --> 01:07:31.090 Here you go 01:07:31.090 --> 01:07:37.970 Uh, oh we got pre-sales for 2027 already. I didn't know about that. Um, scroll down 01:07:38.610 --> 01:07:40.530 Oh, there you go. I think it passed it already 01:07:41.550 --> 01:07:45.470 Scroll up scroll up. There it is. Scroll down. No, scroll down 01:07:45.970 --> 01:07:49.570 Yeah, right there. An narcopoto 2026 virtual access. There you go 01:07:49.570 --> 01:07:53.350 And if you want you can get the dollar vigilante and crypto vigilante bundle as well 01:07:53.350 --> 01:07:57.950 Um, and yeah, there was so many incredible talks and we actually had two stages as you know 01:07:57.950 --> 01:08:03.870 And we recorded all of it. So there's a massive amount of incredible information and incredible speakers 01:08:04.650 --> 01:08:08.770 Um, so yeah, you can get access to all of it for just 150 bucks pretty good 01:08:08.770 --> 01:08:11.750 It's like a I don't know got to be a hundred hours of of stuff 01:08:11.750 --> 01:08:15.010 Which you can watch at your own pace, of course, unlike us at the event 01:08:15.010 --> 01:08:18.510 We had to watch it like every single day every hour of every day 01:08:18.510 --> 01:08:23.970 You can kind of take your time, but yeah, it's there's so much good information in there. I highly recommend it 01:08:24.730 --> 01:08:27.110 Yeah, this is um, we're at a 01:08:28.090 --> 01:08:34.570 It's a mile marker. We're at a mile marker in history. You know, this is you know, what's going on now is 01:08:34.570 --> 01:08:39.350 You know, there's a before and there's an after there's a before 01:08:40.510 --> 01:08:45.390 invasion of Iran, Venezuela, Ecuador, whatever trump kind of 01:08:45.390 --> 01:08:50.410 Whatever and an orcopoco, you know home and we're just getting to the truth kind of deal 01:08:51.130 --> 01:08:53.690 And there's an after and the after 01:08:54.250 --> 01:09:01.810 I I'm I'm very very optimistic see the whole concept of freedom's phoenix was from the ashes of lady liberties torch 01:09:01.810 --> 01:09:06.490 Freedom's rebirth freedom's phoenix. That was the point, you know for my grandkids 01:09:06.490 --> 01:09:09.190 I'm like I we're going to have to go through the ashes 01:09:09.190 --> 01:09:14.630 And when we saw in late 19, it was the movie joker came out with the walking phoenix 01:09:14.630 --> 01:09:18.130 And I'm watching I'm like what the crap was that, you know 01:09:18.130 --> 01:09:24.410 Is it it's like predictive programming kind of threw it and then that summer here we go portland and all that yep 01:09:24.410 --> 01:09:25.010 Here we go 01:09:25.010 --> 01:09:31.130 Here come the ashes and people going to have to start making decisions for themselves and their future and their families and 01:09:31.130 --> 01:09:35.770 And you have you know a young you have a family you got a young son 01:09:35.770 --> 01:09:40.730 Was on your shoulders out there and he was you know digging that but you know you got 01:09:40.730 --> 01:09:43.170 He had to go put on a spider man outfit, man 01:09:43.790 --> 01:09:47.170 Come back and show everybody so you got a young son 01:09:47.170 --> 01:09:49.350 You you're looking into the future 01:09:49.350 --> 01:09:52.310 Are you feeling pretty optimistic you okay? 01:09:53.990 --> 01:09:56.230 Yeah, like in general, yes, um 01:09:57.430 --> 01:10:01.070 I think it's going to be a very different world that he's going to grow up in 01:10:01.070 --> 01:10:07.090 Even if you look at the ai stuff, which but I think the ai stuff is all actually going to start collapsing in a couple years 01:10:07.090 --> 01:10:08.610 For a number of different reasons 01:10:09.230 --> 01:10:11.530 Um, but yeah, no, I'm gonna you know 01:10:11.530 --> 01:10:17.650 He's already like had so much better childhood than me or my my wife ever could have imagined 01:10:18.170 --> 01:10:26.290 We're you know, just making sure his life is full of love and connection and never has to you know, worry about anything 01:10:26.290 --> 01:10:26.970 and 01:10:27.570 --> 01:10:32.670 It's just all beauty and love and and a huge family that he's always playing with and 01:10:32.670 --> 01:10:36.050 Um, I just expect we'll just continue on like that 01:10:36.050 --> 01:10:39.310 He'll never see the inside of a government indoctrination camp 01:10:39.310 --> 01:10:42.230 Of course and just be unschooled and you know 01:10:42.830 --> 01:10:45.410 Even if it ends up he just ends up running this ranch 01:10:45.950 --> 01:10:50.010 And with all the animals and with all the greenhouses and growing our own food 01:10:50.010 --> 01:10:54.350 And if he wants to make a business out of that at some point or whatever, I don't know 01:10:54.350 --> 01:10:55.830 But you know, I'm not too worried 01:10:55.830 --> 01:11:00.210 I even if it turns worst-case scenario and we go into this full terminator 01:11:00.210 --> 01:11:04.990 Pellentier thing with drones coming around trying to kill us all all of us freedom fighters and stuff 01:11:04.990 --> 01:11:05.710 Like 01:11:07.170 --> 01:11:12.110 He's a he's a strong kid. We have a gym in our house. He's gonna be in the gym all the time 01:11:12.110 --> 01:11:16.790 If he gets up to like, I don't know 16 years old and he's like in perfect physical shape 01:11:16.790 --> 01:11:21.270 And we have to go be out in the mountains like basically fighting off the government drones with like 01:11:21.270 --> 01:11:26.950 Cyber attacks that we're doing on them and stuff like that'd be pretty cool too. So even if it goes dystopian 01:11:27.450 --> 01:11:33.830 I think we're really gonna enjoy just you know surviving it. Uh, and if it goes totally beautiful all the better 01:11:35.510 --> 01:11:42.070 Thank you for spending time with me. Jeff, you know, I think it's um, this is a good message for people to see that 01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:44.210 Resistance is not futile 01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:50.790 There is a tribe out there that you can find if you're freedom oriented individual and it comes down to you know 01:11:50.790 --> 01:11:55.330 Finding peace of mind, you know, just you know understanding the truth of things 01:11:55.330 --> 01:12:03.790 And an orca poco is one of those things that if you're of this mind and you experience it you get a feeling 01:12:04.990 --> 01:12:05.470 of relief 01:12:06.210 --> 01:12:08.530 You're not alone. You're not crazy 01:12:09.070 --> 01:12:11.230 You understand other people do 01:12:11.770 --> 01:12:18.750 And there is a future and a lot of it is just being comfortable in your own skin with your own family and your own community 01:12:18.750 --> 01:12:21.370 And an orca poco is a very good 01:12:21.370 --> 01:12:26.050 Wide spread of all kinds of interest that you'll find something 01:12:26.050 --> 01:12:30.030 To be there for and then of course part of our art was very nice 01:12:30.030 --> 01:12:34.570 You know, you go around and it was safe even in the middle of all the crap it was safe 01:12:34.570 --> 01:12:38.930 I mean, you know, this is it was such a sigh up and they do this every year 01:12:38.930 --> 01:12:45.710 Cia says don't go there. You'll all die or you know, we have a travel warning of against or whatever or jeffson 01:12:45.710 --> 01:12:47.510 You know agent of the whatever 01:12:48.230 --> 01:12:52.830 Reptile just just bullshit. I mean, you know, it's just constant, you know 01:12:52.830 --> 01:12:58.770 Oh and ike, you know, uh speaking he did a zoom thing, you know, that was very popular 01:12:58.770 --> 01:13:01.190 You know like all of a sudden he's not crazy anymore 01:13:01.910 --> 01:13:04.870 You know, so a lot of this stuff has just been 01:13:05.410 --> 01:13:07.750 It was so refreshing. I really enjoyed it 01:13:07.750 --> 01:13:14.210 Thanks for you know, inviting me down because I just I I really met a lot of great people. Oh 01:13:14.910 --> 01:13:21.990 The founder of bit shoot is going to feature our project at the top and do I mean this is it's a really good networking 01:13:21.990 --> 01:13:27.610 Opportunity as well and you get your mind and body right. It was really good experience 01:13:27.610 --> 01:13:35.550 We look forward to promoting 27 and uh, I'm very interested in where it's going to be and how you know, we'll we'll participate 01:13:35.550 --> 01:13:42.990 We'll we'll make something happen and you know, there's a lot of other stuff we can talk about but that kind of the gist of it before you go 01:13:42.990 --> 01:13:45.050 I mean the the the 01:13:46.250 --> 01:13:49.330 Visuals that they had for perturbi art and the violence and everything 01:13:50.690 --> 01:13:54.130 On a scale 1 to 10, what kind of bullshit were we looking at? 01:13:55.630 --> 01:13:56.110 Uh 01:13:56.650 --> 01:13:58.430 I think looking back at it 01:13:58.990 --> 01:13:59.890 10 out of 10 01:14:00.410 --> 01:14:04.950 It was it was almost nothing in actual fact. It was really 01:14:05.650 --> 01:14:10.790 About nine in the morning on sunday or eight in the morning all of a sudden and we're still not sure how this happened 01:14:11.590 --> 01:14:19.030 Like there was a bus on fire on almost every street in port of aerta and a couple a bunch of oxo stores were all on fire 01:14:19.550 --> 01:14:23.790 Uh, there was really not much else other than that. There was a couple gunshots fired 01:14:23.790 --> 01:14:26.270 We do know of one one person was hit in the arm 01:14:26.830 --> 01:14:28.790 But really there was hardly anything 01:14:29.310 --> 01:14:35.550 It was mostly a show and then after that they just left and there was no police the entire day actually for two full days afterwards 01:14:35.550 --> 01:14:39.350 There was no police. There was no fire people. They just let everything up fire and left 01:14:39.350 --> 01:14:45.190 Um, and so as long as you didn't get lit on fire somehow or if you were in a building that was on fire 01:14:45.190 --> 01:14:51.470 You could get out. There really was almost nothing. Um, that happened. It was it was truly a staged 01:14:52.470 --> 01:14:59.330 Psychological operation for a number of agendas. Um, it was it was really incredible to witness like live inside of it 01:14:59.330 --> 01:15:02.290 And that like I said, like maybe they did it that weekend 01:15:02.750 --> 01:15:08.010 Partly because we were there because they do seem to target our our event. It just seems that's the case 01:15:08.010 --> 01:15:13.170 Uh, and if that was the case they kind of backfired on them because max egan was out with in like a few minutes 01:15:13.710 --> 01:15:16.350 They're doing with his camera saying what a joke this is 01:15:16.890 --> 01:15:19.790 Like there's nothing to worry about and all that kind of stuff 01:15:19.790 --> 01:15:23.070 Patrick Henningson was out there. Dan Dix was out there 01:15:23.610 --> 01:15:29.510 Uh, we're I was doing a video. I was like, yeah, there's a bunch of fires. I don't know what's going on 01:15:29.510 --> 01:15:32.490 But I watch your video behind your house there 01:15:33.050 --> 01:15:36.750 I I I I'm really glad that 01:15:37.610 --> 01:15:44.050 It happened to a crowd that you know understood they they could see they weren't all freaked out 01:15:44.050 --> 01:15:47.410 I mean, you know early on Dan Dix was kind of you know 01:15:48.470 --> 01:15:51.050 You know things are happening here, man 01:15:51.650 --> 01:15:58.850 But um, it quickly evolved in that. Yeah, it's just you know, they them those doing their thing and we'll find out later 01:15:58.850 --> 01:16:04.030 You know, it's always got to wait three weeks, you know find out what the real story is, but um 01:16:04.030 --> 01:16:09.430 I'm glad that you're there. I'm looking forward to promoting what you're doing next year 01:16:09.430 --> 01:16:14.610 And you got a great team, you know, take care of business and there's other festivals and so on that 01:16:14.610 --> 01:16:20.790 Going and you guys are going to Lieberland Lieber to Poco, you know, maybe there might be something in New Hampshire 01:16:20.790 --> 01:16:25.150 Maybe there might be there might be there might be let me know how we can help 01:16:25.150 --> 01:16:28.130 I'm supportive, man. I'm glad you got the right mindset 01:16:28.130 --> 01:16:34.850 You have great events and you have a lot of life changing presentations and confirmation of 01:16:35.430 --> 01:16:39.530 Truth that people are feeling and they get to experience it. It's awesome 01:16:39.530 --> 01:16:45.070 Anarcapoco anarcapoco 20 27 be a comment keeps getting better 01:16:45.070 --> 01:16:49.150 Jeff Burwick, thank you very much. Jeff. It's been pleasure, man 01:16:49.770 --> 01:16:52.550 Always a pleasure and a thank you. All right. Peace brother 01:16:53.250 --> 01:16:53.550 peace