It's time for declare your independence with Ernest Hancock believe me when I say we have a
Difficult time ahead of us
But if we are to be prepared for it, we must first shed our fear of it
I stand here without fear because I remember
I remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me, but because of the path that lies behind me
I remember that for 100 years we have fought these machines and
After a century of war, I remember that which matters most
We are still
Oh
We're back. We're back in Arizona. I am in the middle of and damn I feel safer more insulated
But we took time to take a trip down to Narkapoco with the Narkapoco
Jeff Berwick's on going to split it to us. This is um, I'm just gonna rattle off some of the issues
I want to make sure that we get to and then just let Jeff monologue us all to hell, you know one I
Haven't seen Jeff in a few years
Go back he comes over and says yo, what's up? We're yakking and I'm looking at my holy crap
You're like 10 years younger and I'm gonna put up here. I'll show you I show you this this is Jeff now
He's a teenager. I mean, oh my god, you know, so he'll talk about his health stuff
He's always got some health thing and unit the selling and you too can be young and whatever the crap
But bottom line Jeff's looking pretty good, you know
He'd take care of his health, you know, you stop drinking
I don't know if you're smoking still or whatever, but there may be some secret sauce of Joe
Are you gonna explain it to us because I tell you from personal looking at Jeff?
He's a lot younger a lot healthier looking better just saying now a Narkapoco, of course
We're gonna go over that we want to talk about a Narkapoco and its success and the move from
Narkapoco after the hurricane of you know a friend down there that lived in
Narkapoco now this in part of Iarta. She was saying oh my god
200 mile an hour winds for six hours plus. It's like man
She go, I'm glad my husband was here take care of business because I fold it
There was and they were prepped up with enough alcohol and cigarettes
You know to be able to pass out the security so they they're getting paid in cigarettes
You know silver gold crypto. Yeah, we'll take cigarettes. I mean, you know it
So there's that you gotta keep that in mind and then they go to part of Iarta to be safer
Well, then what happens? We'll talk about that too. You know how what was really going on there and who do you ask?
You know, it's a taxi drivers to Uber guys to the maids the concierge
You know the people the staff there are people that live there
You want to get the truth you go to the source and of course?
One thing I wanted to comment on are we there yet? Are we that where we're there?
I mean, you know, so the beginning is nigh. We'll talk about that then the future, you know the community the Liberty community
Predictions crypto, but I want to start with that one right there
Narkapoco has a lot of the English-speaking world
I mean you get people from Spain and Europe and Africa and and so on but it's generally United Kingdom
Canada Australia New Zealand. I mean you got you know the Queen's money or Kings
Is on the you're printed money?
They're abused and they want to go to Narkapoco and this has been a trend that I see from around the world
generally English-speaking but
You know
US is represented, but I mean it's a lot of the English-speaking world looking for freedom and they find an
Narkapoco and their fans of Jeff and you know his walkabouts with his dog and so on so they come and
By the hundreds and it was a really not I'll give my opinion, but first let's go to Jeff Jeff
Explain it to me man. You know what the move the first thing was you went from
Narkapoco, this is the first one in Puerto Vallarta. Tell us about that decision and how that worked out. Would you please?
Well it worked out very interestingly as you pointed out we had so many things happened to us in Narkapoco
So many that I don't think it could be a call to coincidence at all at this point
I even typed it into grok. I said grok if you had an event over eight years in Mexico and
One of the one of the years someone was shot right before the conference
And it was international news and it actually was which it shouldn't have been right?
It was one person got shot, but it was like top headlines all across the world
Then after that we have a 7.2 earthquake right before Ron Paul stepped on stage the next year
Then we got through the co-vades, which we had to hide in a place called the secret garden
We were one of the only events that continued to run all through the co-vades
Then we got hit by a cat 5 hurricane that came out of the blue not one person
Well, I was like one of the only people who knew I don't know how I was one of the only people who knew but I
Saw something on Twitter and I was like this looks like it's a big hurricane coming and everyone's like no
No, there's nothing on the television
No one's saying anything and it was nighttime
So most people just went to sleep and then as you pointed out a cat 5
One of the only cat 5 has ever hit dead on on a major city before hit dead on on Narkapoco
It actually hit directly at Max Egan's house and then the secret garden behind it
But the secret garden was not very damaged at all. It was very protected
But that destroyed most of the city, but we still ran the conference that year
Then the next year we got hit by a cat 3 rape before the conference, which was it actually hit twice
Which has never happened before I came in flooded the city went out into the ocean
Gained strength and then came back in and sat on top of the city until the entire city was under
numerous feet of water
so then that all happened and then
We were like
We're actually thinking let's get out of the secret garden
We've been here we were mostly there for the covades because a lot of like even the princess hotel in akapoco said that they didn't
If we had the event there in 2021
We'd have to sit six feet apart and wear surgeons masks like they went totally crazy
They're like you have to wear surgeons masks. I'm like we're not surgeons, but they didn't seem to get it
and
And so after a few years at the secret garden, we thought, you know, it's time for a change
Let's let's go back out in public again. And then we thought well, we're gonna do that. Let's
Go let's consider all our options
And I we've heard so many people say that they they would come to our capoco
But it's so hard to get to akapoca, which has hardly any direct flights from anywhere
So I thought well, let's try out port of irritus who we moved there this year
And then right after the event on the sunday after where a lot of people were still there
It was hit by a massive
terror attack
And so I took all that into grok. I said if all those things happened to one event
Over an eight-year period what would be the odds of it?
And it actually came back with this exact number and said one in 60.6 billion
and
So I think I think it's fair to say at this point that either we're being attacked or
We're causing this and actually christoph melchizanak is very spiritual says that we're actually causing it
Because we bring so many like
truths and freedom
People who are very
Coherence because all the stuff we believe in is all aligned with with truth with beauty with like not attacking other people
Stuff like that. Whereas all these other systems in the world all are
We're like a low pressure system coming into a high pressure system and it actually causes the stuff is what he says
So it's either that or we're just constantly being attacked by the system
Because there's no other way to explain how all these things keep happening to us
But yeah, so we moved to port of arden as port of arden. It was actually amazing
You know, I don't think you've been there last year or two if I remember correctly
You weren't there last year, but uh, it's changed so dramatically the event
It's become such an incredible amazing coherent beautiful
Event like you remember the old days back in like, you know, because this was our 12th year
You remember in our first few years there was always some sort of drama or chaos or fighting or all these sort of things
And there was nothing like that this year
Well, you know, the reason I think is um
Well, I don't know why it's just evolved. It was um, you know, I
This year it was at a convention center a newer convention center part of my art is almost like dubai in the construction
Oh my god, I even asked asked grok. I go what the hell is going on?
Why is there so much building said something about well, you know
It's a tourist thing and it's growing and get more popular
But there's also something about the world cup is coming to mexico somewhere and that part of my art to be
You know, like you're saying direct flights and it was so
Convenient for us where before you know, I um during covades, you know
I mc'd a couple of years and what happened was my only condition was I'm not getting a shot
I mean you gotta figure out somehow I get down there
So I had to drive to teowanna or drive to san diego go across the bridge and go and we could do it
Okay, well inconvenience myself enough to you know, help out and do I'm just not getting the shot. Well, uh
Now perto by arta. It's a direct shot from sky harbor phoenix here straight into perto by arta
And that wasn't that far. I mean there's a couple hours and boom. I'm going hell. Yeah
I can see where it's more convenient because before you go to mexico city and you wait for five gazillion years
You get on a flight to go to a capoco airport and then you know the consternation there, but it's um
It was more convenient. There was I tell you one thing that I noticed it was
Not old but more mature crowd. There wasn't you know the the 20-something crypto people run around all over
It was more uh people that were seasoned probably had resources. They were there for um
You know the next big rich
Jeff's going to make a rich thing and that's one thing that the dollar vigilante
I remember that was a thing, you know
I don't know when you started it
But I remember a lot of love illusionaries that young guys there are all jeff burwick up and moving to uh
Acapoco and you know looking for a future
Well the dollar vigilante
Explain what that is and that community that you have in their focus. Would you please?
Yeah, the dollar vigilante. I started in 2010. Um, so it's uh 16 years old now
Uh, I didn't start with any of this gray hair although
I am starting to lose my gray hair with the tesla machine. That's a whole other story, but uh the um
Uh, we started right after the 2008 financial collapse
It became very clear to me at that point
That this is that was going to be the last sort of big crash before the the complete collapse of the system
Uh, and we're getting very very close to that now. So, uh, yeah, we started that in 2010
We've always been heavy into gold silver and the gold silver mining stocks
Which have done incredibly well in the last year. Uh, and then we're also been quite big into crypto
I recommend a bitcoin at three dollars. I recommend an ethereum at two dollars. So
Basically the entire newsletter's about two dollars, but it went down to 60 000 from a hundred
You're still probably making money, you know
Yeah, yeah
Well, we actually said we have a newsletter called the crypto vigilante because we can't cover it all in the dollar vigilante
And uh, they said to sell uh your bitcoin above a hundred thousand this year. So we nailed it again
We we nail it all the time
It's it's like the best newsletters in the world
But no one really knows about it and we never get talked about because of course the powers that be
Don't want anyone to know about this essentially anarcho-capitalist financial newsletter
That's profiting from all of the destruction of all their central banking and all their
Big government operations and things like that. But that's what we do at the dollar vigilante
Well, this is it it creates this is one thing I want to get your comment on, you know
When I I went to the bitcoin conference
Uh, the invitation of ross and leno brick when it was in las vegas, you know this last august
And I saw it was so beating the drum at store of value. It's digital gold
You know, we're just going to get rich and we're integrating, you know
Crypto in to the government and the monetary system and that was what I was afraid of I mean for years decades
I'm like I could see you know the hijacking bitcoin thing
We have roger on a couple weeks before he got arrested after he published the book
And we're working, you know with him and erin on, you know
Demonstrating zano in the agris market here in occupied land and out of principle, you know what it was for
Well, what happens is
Now we have crypto is just it's a store of value. We're just going to get rich
We're not in they just totally eliminate the peer-to-peer digital cash option and bitcoin
I would say I'll tell you what's intrinsic value is it's worth the gold and silver you're willing to give up for its features
Well, they take those features away
All the things that we were you know the privacy
You know the speed the cheapness all these things that were promised to liberty community
Well, you take that away. What the hell is it good for?
You know and I so we're looking for the privacy
Do you have you know
Little insight on some privacy coins where you see crypto going
You know, is it just going to be get it on your visa and get k y c'd on everything or
You know, we're going to have something else that the liberty community can embrace
Yeah, for sure. Um, yeah when I started the doll vigilante and then recommended bitcoin at three dollars in 2011
I knew people like roger veer pretty quickly
raffaela verde and so many
And we were all basically a narco capitalists and we were super excited about bitcoin because we saw the potential for it to become
The world's currency and by doing that it would get rid of the central banks
And by doing that we would downsize governments massively if not completely
Which would bring peace and prosperity on earth like we've never known it
So we were super excited about it, but by around 2017 and this is actually just coming out the ebbstein files now a little bit
To some extent it got hijacked even by jeffrey ebbstein himself, which I didn't even know
and
We were aware of it though like we knew what was happening at that time
We knew was being hijacked by basically the globalists or whatever you want to call them
And what they did was they limited the block size to basically like super tiny amount
So that it could never ever be used as a currency by everyone in the world
It can barely be used by
You know a few hundred thousand people really as a currency because of how limited it was
so we spoke up dramatically about that raffaela verde who
Is my partner at the crypto vigilante has been one of the most outspoken people about it
He's been very against it ever since then
And then over the years i've just become much less interested in bitcoin
I'm basically not interested in bitcoin at all anymore even though we do have it in our portfolio
Not right now as much because it's going down and probably will continue to go down but
but
For me personally I have no
Like the the reason I got into bitcoin is what you just said, right?
It was a way to get rid of the central banks. It was we thought it was private back in 2011
Um
We hadn't thought it through enough that you know these coin analytics
Palantir type companies and governments would come together to be able to track everything so well
So we thought it was basically
Monero is what we thought bitcoin was so then monero was actually launched over a decade ago and
I became incredibly interested at that point and I just every year now
I'm more and more interested in it. I think of it as what I thought bitcoin was supposed to be
And it's actually been doing
Fairly well considering it's been delisted from almost every central exchange on earth, which should be a huge hint
That that is what the system does not want. Um
So yeah, I'm a huge
The proponent of monero and then there's some smaller ones that I like as well
I've talked about it over the years like pirate chain. I still like pirate chain
It's uh gone up a lot in the past and then went down a lot in the past
A R R R, you know pirate chain R. I always thought that was cool
Yeah, that was a cool meme and everything but it's actually uh, even more private than monero
And it's got a lot of things being developed on it right now
So those are the two like obviously monero is the big one
It's it's the big daddy and then like, you know, as far as the smaller coins
I like things like pirate chain quite a bit
Um, and I think they will start to catch on more and more as these governments and uh, and things like that get more and more
tyrannical, um, I think, you know, if you look back at bitcoin
The reason it took off was it was mostly used on dark web markets
That's what the the russ ulbricht thing was all about. Of course, they went after ross
They could find them because bitcoin is trackable
Uh, but now there's no dark net markets on earth that use bitcoin. They'd be crazy to do that
They'd be far too risky and they all use monero. So really we're kind of back at square one a little bit
With where things are at but um, yeah, I'm very bullish on monero for the future
You know, we um, kind of latched on with zano and the reason was
Is because it's creating an infrastructure
That we wanted to use and they got their own stablecoin and they got they got they got and I
Interviewed uh all the developers and so on before we kind of you know went in I wanted to talk to them why
You know, why are you doing this? Why why why why why?
Well, one of the main developers is a guy that created the
Base code for being anonymous with monero, you know, so I'm going okay. So there's that
When I talk to them
You know, of course, they're nervous. They don't want to kind of no I insist
That both there was two guys one is kind of the businessman one was the you know, kind of the cto and I'm going
I want to know why I always at why do you why why why why why?
And he was from st. Petersburg, Russia and the reason was he didn't want to be surveilled by Putin
You know, he's got you know, I I didn't want to be sure I wanted to be private and I could do it
And I did it, you know there. I mean, what's the big deal?
Well, he's
Inundated by all these or narco capitalists and libertarians and all these principal people going
He goes, hey man, I just wanted to be private. I don't know what you're talking about
So I'm talking and I go and look you need to watch this video the philosophy of liberty thing
It was in russian, you know, it's in like 45 languages. We're going to be launching that project here soon
The fifth beware the ides of march
So Corbin and I've been working on this we can school it's a thing and we'll make sure you know about it
But the whole point was is that if you know the philosophy of liberty is about self ownership in this eight minute video
That you have this russian guy watch it in russian and get
Okay, I get it and when kin school and did this, you know, it's a long story
But it was 93 goes to russia after the soviet union's breaking up and he's going we got to get this
Now this guy was his tour guide is now a billion to air grocer and you go
Whoa, okay, that's cool. James. I was interviewing Ken. We find out all this and what happened
He goes look this book john the ventures of jonathan gubble that you wrote that kind of austrian economics
You know what it's all about and a simple format for somebody coming out of soviet union can understand
I need a primer. I need something. They understand, you know property rights tax. They don't know what the hell you're talking about
We need to get that well somebody you know an activist then made this flash animation
But that was like a thing back in the day in the 90s and it was first translated into russian
And i'm going when I talk why why why all these people
Lately or last year or so it was well, I read
You know like I see your book back there human action and you know, I read iron ran and I read and I read and I go, huh?
why
Why why why?
All of a sudden nighttime reading, you know, you just kind of picked it up
I mean there has to be a reason and it kept coming back that they saw that flash animation
That it was about self ownership and it kind of sent them down that road. So i'm going okay. Well, then i'm thinking
America's coming out of this woke stuff and everything. It's like we're coming out of the soviet union
I mean we need to understand the fundamental
base of what this is all about that you get that splinter
Planet in their brain in their mind and that has legs
I've seen how it's five 10 years later and the same thing with a narcopoco. So the
lesson that you're trying to get the
idea the philosophy the
um, you know
Understanding what this is all about
How do you do that with a narcopoco? How effective have you been?
What are the issues that you because you have a wide range of speakers on a lot of different things
How do you craft that and is it just you you got staff?
Tell us about a narcopoco. Give me the elevator. They need to go next year of speech man go
Well, um, it's changed a lot over the years as you know in the first few years
It was a lot of people in like black t-shirts and uh get really drunk and angry about the government
And uh, you know, there'd be a lot of anarcho-capitalists up there with all their slide shows
Showing why government is so bad for the economy. Why it causes poverty and all this sort of stuff
We don't have too much of that anymore because to me that's just like obvious now
Uh, like if people don't understand that at this point, uh, you know, they're never gonna catch up in time
Uh, and what I've found is there's so many things that are related to freedom
That uh, so many incredible speakers out there
And talking about what's actually going on in the world
Um and things like that. So we have speakers like david dyke
maxi and um and all kinds of like people just talking about what's actually happening in the world
And what's actually causing it and stuff like that. So there's a lot of uh, what you can call truth
People and a lot of freedom people and that's basically what it is
It's it's basically a truth and freedom event and we are not afraid to talk about any topic
We've had a flatter stuff on for the last couple years. We've had flatter debates
Stuff like that
So it's turned from being a purely anarcho capitalist sort of conference where we really focused on the government to
A lot more about what is actual freedom and this is actually a a evolution
I've gone through myself because I used to think about 10 years ago when I was drinking a lot that the biggest problem in the world
Was the governments and the central banks
Now I don't believe that anymore
I I actually think the biggest problem for almost everyone in the world is their own mind and the programming they've been put under
Uh, so once I started to work on that and I I did things like meditation for years
I was doing between an hour and sometimes five hours a day of meditation for years and years
Uh, and as I was I was beginning to like really realize a lot about uh, what this world is and what causes all the problems
And it's usually the people actually create their own problems themselves
Uh, so that's when I started talking a lot more about that stuff
So then we have people coming on talking about consciousness talking about, uh, how to work on yourself self work shadow work
All these sort of things and it's all kind of tied into one, uh, week
And of course we talk about other things as well
We talk about crypto because privacy crypto coins could still have the potential to get rid of the central banks and the governments
Which would be awesome
Uh, so we talk about every single angle of things, uh related to freedom and not just focused on
How bad the government is and I think that's that's like a given at this point
I think if people at this point haven't realized that, uh, they're not coming to an archivoco anyway
Um, and so we don't have to start, you know, it's such a base level
Um, but yeah, that's what it's become. It's become a really, uh, interesting event, uh with all kinds of incredible talks
Like we've we had talks on how they're injecting nanotech into people now, uh, how they're, uh,
uh, what kind of, um, uh, AI
Systems they're putting into place to control people to control their minds. We had people talking about
What is the history of the world?
Is what we're told about history true, which it's it's definitely not, uh, and then they have all kinds of incredible theories on it
So so it's really encompasses everything like you were there this year
Like maybe you can tell me what you kind of saw is like this huge milieu of incredible, uh, topics
You know, I got the, uh, talk to a lot of people we had a, you know, table out in a lobby and I spent a lot of the time there
We were doing a lot of work
and, um
The conversations were very interesting
And a lot of the people that we met at the dinners and so on, you know
And uh sitting around table and you get a you know
Guy from new zealand and a australian seek that you know came with a friend that
It's just it's just amazing how people wind up there
My impression
Over the years has been that anarca poco was an experience that people needed like a lot of these festivals
You know, uh, you go and you find out you're not alone
And that's what a lot of people are looking for
Am I crazy?
I mean, I'm you know
Am I the only one that sees and then you get all the receipts and the details and somebody
Like erin day going up and doing the ebbstein files on crypto of oh my god. I mean it was just we had him on yesterday
You know, uh
Doing all that we talked before but he said just even since anarca poco is ai
Scanning all the ebbstein files and look at old man
And luke nick is so deep in with ebbstein and the future of and tethered dollar and stablecoins and
Him and friends get the benefit of and trump and family doing their usd one stable company
And then binance gets a pardon cz from there and then all of a sudden you find out he owns 80 percent of usd one
Which is trump kind of oh my god, you know here we go
Anarca poco is a touchstone for a lot of people internationally. It's not like you know, like we did our freedom summits in
Here in arizona for a decade or more and all and that was a lot of the names
I mean, you know, we have you know rom paul new rock
Well, you know peter shift dug casey. I mean we had a lot of the guys, but it was before they were famous
You know or infamous, you know, it was before people really understood
And it was still that liberty group that they knew
Well, then they get confirmation our narca poco is a little bit different
What happened with the narca poco? It is what is the philosophy of liberty? It's about it's about
You decentralization of power down to the individual, you know, certainly family community something
And it encompasses a lot of other things. It's like a spiritual battle against evil
It is how do you you know quiet your mind? And what do you pay?
What do you pay attention to and the future is about credibility? Who do you believe? Why are you guided by principle?
You know or is it well, we're kicking ass in Iran. We win. I'm team jersey. Whatever the hell
The future is abundance and I want to you know bring it back to you on that. I am looking at
Especially living out on the land here that we knew that certain technologies are going to allow us to have a first
world experience
Not too hungry not too thirsty not too cold not too hot not too unsheltered not to whatever and technology
With the communication with satellite solar panel
I mean all kinds of stuff
Gives us the ability to break away from this control grid and i'm looking for the future
What do you see?
Is the what are the people there for they come and they well, what's the next tip?
We're going to get richer and kind of whatever and you know hodl our crypto and you know be worth more
Are you investing in freedom at least your own freedom?
So the spiritual aspect that you bring to this the battle between good and evil and
You know i tell you a lot of people are starting to embrace christianity. I mean it's really the only religion that's you know
Do unto others you'd have do unto you you know it's a
What do you say you do here? Well not rule one don't be a dick
I mean you know this is you know what's happening
And i'm wondering the spiritual aspect of this it had a big impact on you and you're seeing
God's mentioned a lot even by you
You know they've got all these anarchist atheist libertarians and all of a sudden they're finding jesus
I'm wondering why did you anticipate that comment on that will you please?
Yeah, that um well for me personally it started with just doing the self work and the meditation and i got into
you know deep meditations where
You know you can kind of just you kind of have this knowing
You kind of this feeling of like that this isn't actually all that real
And that that you're just in it for an experience and stuff like that
And you know even as a logically speaking
I used to think okay, what is this world and it didn't make any sense
It's like okay, we're in a universe and it goes on forever
It's like okay, but that doesn't even make any sense like there's no wall at the end if there is a wall
What's outside that wall right?
Like if you think about it logically none of it really makes any sense
So I began to just you know in my meditations and stuff it became very clear to me personally
That this is like a 3d video game that is basically inside the mind of god
And you know like even coming logically I couldn't come to
Uh like this is all just an accident
That made no sense to me whatsoever. In fact, if you really think just logically
Like none of this makes sense none of it at all like this was clearly created
So then when you get to that you start to talk about god or whatever you want to call it, right?
That some something someone whatever you want to call it
Created all of this and it's pretty amazing. It's pretty incredible like even you know the chicken and the egg like how did that
And you know what happened they had like one had to come first, but it doesn't make any sense
None of it makes sense. How is it their body does like a trillion things in every second?
We don't have to do anything at all runs itself perfectly. It's like the most incredible
machine ever our brains you get into that
So just from a logical basis and then getting into the meditation
Um, I just it became very clear to me that this is
Essentially an experience we're having inside the mind of god. So that's that's basically where I went with it
um
And I started talking about that and I think a lot of other people
Have started to come more and more to those sort of conclusions and you can of course go
To the more organized religion route, uh, which
Have mostly been like taken over and inverted for the most part
But you know, there's people who like go with like the jesus way or whatever that is and i'm like cool
Because like jesus sounds awesome. He said he did a lot of the stuff that i'm all about
Like do one to others if you want them to do one to you
The only time he got violent was with the government about taxes and with the central banksters
And that's yeah
So so i'm like he sounds exactly like my kind of guy
But the thing with the the jesus stuff that I find with a lot of people is they kind of get into this
Oh, if I just believe in jesus then everything will be okay
I'm I'm more of the belief that uh, if jesus was real, uh, because I don't believe anything about anything
Like nothing in this street video game. I don't believe any anything. I'm told, but if he was real that
You were supposed to be like him is what you're supposed to be really
And I I don't see a lot of christian people actually trying to be and do the work
It actually takes a lot of work. You've got to get out your program
And you've got to figure out your addictions you've got to
It's hard work and that's what I personally did over like a 10-year period as you mentioned
I used to drink a lot and I had to do the hard work on myself the shadow work the self work
The deep meditation to get to kind of like get to a new level
And that I think is where uh everyone should go and in fact
I actually say there's actually nothing to be done really in this world in my opinion
Except for doing that work on yourself and once you do that work and you get physically
Really good
So you can't and you know there's a lot of stuff so even in the bible and stuff about you know
You take care of your temple because if your temple if your body isn't good
Then your mind doesn't really work all that well and if your mind's not working all that well
You're not going to be able to get into
Consciousness levels where you can really connect with the source
So
You know, I basically say make sure your your physical temples as good as can be then work on your mind
And that's a whole other ball of worms or a bag of worms
bag of worms can or
I had a close a whole other can of worms there
With you know, there's so much programming we've got and also all of our traumas
That's what actually affects most people in their lives is their
Traumas that they haven't gotten over
And and that is so important for everyone to work on and then once you do that and if you can do that
And it takes a while to take years
Then you start to be able to get into this incredible space where you can just sit and connect more with
The source of my opinion or rise up to a higher consciousness level
And then a lot of this stuff just starts to become clear
So for me personally that's been the route that I've took and and the fact that so many people in archipelago are kind of
Doing similar now. I don't know if I caused that. I don't think I did
But it's possible
I there was a lot of people who came up and said I changed their lives and they started
Doing things like what I was doing and then all of a sudden they've reached these sort of levels or conclusions as well
But yeah, it has become a very different event from 12 years ago. That's for sure
You know one thing I wanted to there was
A lot of shortcuts for people
It was there's always a was it
ayahuasca and boofoo or boofoo or whatever the frog thing
Which I found out that frog is here in the snoring desert. I get the monsoon
I'll be hunting me some frogs, but you know the um
Main thing was is that they would take and take
Go through the ceremony. You got to prepare yourself. You know your diet and drinking and you know water and make sure you kind of
You got a shaman go through this process
And I remember going on the beach in the morning
There will still be out there watching the sunrise and I just got up and they were up all all night and still under the influence
And I would interview a lot of people and they had them come on the show and so on
and it seems like these
These drugs these chemicals these plants and animals and stuff
Got them to a point to where they could process information
Much faster their brain opens up and all of a sudden they're processing information about their entire life and therefore
I'm not going back to chicago. I mean that kind of thing and it was um
That was kind of the commonality that I got that it gave them the power to process their circumstances and think
critically and deeply
You know over a
hour many hours
It time compressed or something and they were able to process all this stuff and then
Use their brain's capacity opened up to realize some truth
Then the boo boo boo you can tell me about that the frog thing they um
It's not a as long a trip. I mean, it's you know the influence over an hour or something like that
And these are like shortcuts to what you're talking about
Do you recommend the shortcuts for some people it's therapeutic or you just rather do the the long haul meditation thing?
What do you think?
Well, I should say that when I first decided to go down this road and do the self work
More than 10 years ago. I started with ayahuasca
I did it twice and it gave me some incredible insights that
No one would have been able to give me except for the plant medicine
And actually it was to to allow others to help me
It showed me that in the ayahuasca and that's what I wasn't doing. I wasn't asking for help
I thought I had to figure this all out out of myself
But after the ayahuasca I began asking my wife for help and she started helping me
And then I went on to do a boga which I actually do consider the most important plant medicine on earth by a million times over
And it actually is nothing really all that psychedelic
You just go into deep deep deep introspection for like two full days. And what's that called?
Eboga it's from africa
and
You basically do like a deep meditation that in some ways seems like it lasts for years
Like you're in there forever it seems and you your subconscious you look at your subconscious for like
Two straight days and it's super hard because there's a lot of stuff in your subconscious
You don't want to look at and that's actually your traumas and they're really hard to get to and really be seen
But you can do that with the eboga so yeah when it comes to plant medicines
I would say that they can be very very very helpful to people
In some ways it might be the only way for some people to actually
Reach higher levels basically
Especially something like the eboga because otherwise it takes years and years and it's super hard and
The the plant medicines actually make you have to go through it. So you're stuck there
Like I'll give you an example like I could get into meditations
And I'd get into some pretty deep meditation sometimes and all of a sudden a memory would come up from my childhood
And it'd be something I didn't want to look at right and it'd be like, you know
I was getting beat up by my dad or something like that and and I just kind of like wins and I'd
Breathe and I'd like not look at it because it was so hard to look at right
Like you're a little kid getting beat up by your own father like just a you know
You can imagine like how traumatizing that is right?
The person who's supposed to be there to protect you right?
So anyway, uh when I do that in the meditations, I would I'd run away from it
I just I wouldn't want to look at it. But when I did the eboga, I've done it twice now
I did it once uh over 10 years about 10 years ago and I did it again just a few months ago in egypt at the pyramids
And in this one it it made me look at my entire childhood for what seemed like years and look at every little detail of it feel every emotion
Just relive it and and and feel it again and by doing that
I actually ended up over the course of time healing it all and it actually changed my life dramatically afterwards
So yeah when it comes to some of these plant medicines
Like there's a reason that uh, some of these, you know, native americans and stuff like that
Do these things they're they're actually like I actually say if everyone on earth was forced to do eboga
We would have peace of rusterity on earth like we've never known it about a week later once they got over it and then
And they recovered from it
Because it will show them everything about themselves and they will be able to fix themselves
And that's what I was saying earlier most people's problems are all caused by their own mind
And that's what we need to really get
Repaired or fixed or healed you could say in order and then once you do that though
Incredible things happen and you mentioned that some of these people were able to process massive amounts of information
Yeah, you can almost become like superhuman as you do these different levels of of self work basically what you can do with plant medicines as well
You know, I've been invited, you know a bunch of times, you know, come on Ernie come on come on
And I just haven't had the time
I mean, you know, it's like I got responsibilities. I got to do stuff. It's not that you know, I wouldn't try it
It's just that
You know, and I'd love to have a shaman somebody experienced friends come out here on the land and do that feel safe
And donna baby sent me but you know, it's also I'm like
I don't know I need my pain
I mean, you know a lot of what my life experience brought me to where I want to be now
I'm not sure I would benefit or I don't know
But you know, it everybody that I talked to
There was a benefit they they got the process now some people they're they're they're coming up against their demons or whatever
You know, they it's uncomfortable. You got to go through that and then uh, you know
I don't know anyone that's done it once that says they wouldn't do it again
Have you come across those people go? I'm not okay. I'm glad okay. I expect by not doing that anymore
Have you gotten that response?
Well, I was one of those people after the first time I did a bogey
It picked the crap out of me so badly because I needed it
I was basically depressed and suicidal and didn't want to live and all those sort of things
And I did it as a last resort and it kicked the crap out of me
It made me look at everything so much and it was super hard and when I was done
I said I'll never ever ever do that again and it's because it was so hard
But what I didn't realize is all the things that ended up happening over the next 10 years
was because of that work I did with the aboga and then I got to the point where
uh, Christoph Mckiesedek was doing it in Egypt right at the pyramids and I
I'd said even months before that I'll never do a bogey again
It was way too hard. Uh, but uh, he kind of convinced me
He's like don't worry. You've you've done enough work now that it won't be that hard this time
So I tried it again and it was still very very hard, but nothing like the first time
But yeah, that was uh
You know, so I was even like I'll never do that again
But what I will say is that the uh, all the experiences I've had from all of them
And I've done most plant medicines now all have been very beneficial and definitely nothing negative for me at all
That's I you know, I'm
I'm willing to experiment with you know people I trust that you know know what's up, but um
I like
My clarity of the I I think I get it, you know, I don't get all you know
hyperbolic about anything
I you know, I just
Here it comes and we got to get ready for that's what you know occupy land things about but I'm I'm just like um
What do you see the future is going to be your experiences talking to people around the world all the news that we got
What happened part of my art to Ecuador now? Oh my god, you know around Russia China
I mean, it's like damn, you know our bingo card is full. So I'm just this has been
um
A dampening effect on a lot of people about the future and I'm seeing abundance
I mean it it you know this too shall break. What's your opinion?
Well at the heart of it, I actually don't worry about anything
This is all an experience that we're meant to have
This we all have our own true man show in my opinion
And it's perfectly tailored. We have to go through exactly what we have to go through some of it's very hard
In order to learn in order to power up to the next level and stuff like that
So when it comes to like what's going to happen with the world
I don't worry about it whatsoever
I know that this is actually not fully based reality
Even as jesus would say he said I am in this world, but not of this world and
You know when you come to that realization
You don't worry about a thing and that's not to say that I don't
You know
Take care of things I need to take care of
Like I'm living on a ranch with a blue roof right now for the directed energy weapons
I'm growing all my own food because they're poisoning the food supply
I
You know, I'm I'm doing all those sort of things. So it's not like I
Like I'm completely like just like I'm not worried about anything
But I you know inside the video game inside this experience inside this true man show
I do
you know
Pay attention to everything going on and be careful and you know that sort of a thing
But at the end of the day, I don't worry at all because there's only one thing
And this is the realization I've come to over the years is there's only one thing that exists
There's only one thing that's ever existed never will exist and that's consciousness
And that's what we are and we're having just this experience inside consciousness and and I think
In some respect all this stuff going on like just look at how tyrannical like even when we were talking about freedom
Like 20 years ago
We I don't think we could ever imagine like everything that's happened in the last five or 10 years the kobe
I can't believe that even happened. They locked down the entire world over a fake
Sort of virus thing and then tried to inject everyone with poison. They gave them french fries to do it and they did it
Um, like we're living crispy cream doughnuts. They almost had me there
Yeah, so like
Like I couldn't even imagine this stuff like 10 or 20 years ago and now we're living in and I think it's you know
It's just all part of the video game
Like and I think what we have to do right inside the video game is figure out our own path
And you know first of all making sure you never sell your soul and that would be
You know doing something that's not right
In exchange for some sort of profit to yourself like money
Most people on earth have already sold their souls from in various ways
So keeping your soul intact and then figuring out the video game figuring out exactly what's going on and like
Trying to weave your way around all of the massive massive
Like stuff like like they're chem trailing most of the world right now. So what are you going to do with that?
Well, you better be detoxing that's for sure
They're uh trying to inject everyone with poison to try to inject people with nanotech
And what are you going to do about that? You said you better be peacoxing. What what the hell's that? What detoxing?
Uh, you know with the chem trails you're getting a lot of aluminum and stuff into your body
You can actually detox a lot of bit out even with just things like saunas and certain
You know heavy metals sort of detox sort of things. Um, so yeah, you have to learn all these things
They're poisoning the food supply. So what are you going to do? You're going to go live on the land grow your own food
Okay. Now you've passed that level, right? So and then kill gates is trying to block out the sun. What are you going to do?
I'm like, wow
Like it's amazing like it's incredible and uh, it's so much fun to try to win this video game
That i'm just enjoying playing the game. That's really all i'm doing at this point
You know, I think people are influenced by your
positive aspects on this and point out what is and isn't you know important, but um
The health thing, you know, that that's always been a theme of narcopoco. It seems and a lot of it, you know, clean food and you know
living right, but um
You you looked I I wanted to mention that top of the show. I'm just going look at jeff
I mean he looks younger than what I mean. I'm sure you know cutting alcohol didn't hurt
But you know, he's always got something up there kind of you know, the tesla plasma of whatever and
There's a whatever and take this whatever and supplement whatever and you need more testosterone
I mean, you know, whatever it is
But let's talk about the tesla plasma machine. That thing was not free. It's like 11 000 dollars
One of the guys bought it and he put it under our ticket. I store this here. Yeah, whatever
It's kate. I'm like damn did it happen? Well, yeah, I thought it was pretty worth. I wouldn't bought it
You know, so go ahead and I'll let you do you commercial on this thing just because
You know, it's a thing but go ahead and tell people what that was about and I'll pull up your site here for it
Well, I shouldn't say like I'm not involved with the tesla club like um, I just
I've become like a member basically. I was like one of the first members they they came to me and they showed me the machine about two years ago
And uh, I was just like most people they're like, yeah, here's basically everything at the age is you all this sort of stuff
And I was like, yeah, yeah, I hear all kinds of stuff like that
And uh, they gave me one of the machines and um, I actually healed my dog bruce lee's eye
Which was completely white within two days with it and I was like, oh, that's interesting
And then I had a maid who had a bad back for more than a decade
And she was just about to quit and I put it on her back for 15 minutes and she's like the next day
She was lugging
Large packages around the house. No problem. She's been fine ever since
So I went and I've used it with like probably hundreds of people now and every almost every time
Uh, it cures whatever their problem is so
I was like, okay, this is real. So I I was talking to them
I'm like, you guys got to get this out to people and
And they were like, well big pharma will probably kill us
So, you know, if if they find out who we are and I'm like, well, you guys are smart on narco capitalist type people
I met them at a narcopoco. I said, you know
To an underground people can pay with Monero. You'll ship it anywhere in the world as a science kit
It actually looks like it's nothing too special too to get by customs
Um and all that kind of stuff. Um, so yeah, like I've I've just been helping them along the way because I believe in it
So much I think it's so like to me personally, this is the biggest
Re rediscovery of our lifetimes by far
There's nothing that even comes close and I say rediscovery because I think people used to have access to this stuff
Because nicola tesla did it about a hundred years ago. He had
basically tesla
Plasma machines back then and then donald trump's uncle and the cia came in and stole it
And they've managed to keep it mostly hidden from him humanity for about a hundred years
But a mad scientist in mexico a literally crazy guy
Stumbled across a way to create not only the plasma that nicola tesla was doing but like way more effective way
Stronger and it could run way longer because the old machines could run for like 10 minutes
but this one can run for like all day if you want and
and so
They just started doing it about a year and a half ago just putting it out
And so many people have been healed from it now the like paralysis people people couldn't walk dogs who couldn't walk
All of a sudden now can walk
People are gonna have to legs amputated and then a few weeks later. They're like walking miles a day and they're fine
multiple sclerosis lady
The mechanism is tricky
Because it's nothing that you can fully explain
Basically, uh, when you look at plasma and what nicola tesla said about plasma
And you know plasma used to be talked about quite a bit even
Ether what used to be in the periodic table of elements and stuff and they actually took it out about like when rockefeller took over all the medicine stuff
Like a hundred and some years ago. Uh, they they hid all this stuff
But basically what it appears to be is
It it appears to re
Take your cells which most of our cells like i'll give you one example
I did a uh quantum biofeedback machine one year after I had the tesla machine
I used it almost every day because it gives me incredible energy
Like insane amount of energy like I can just go like all week in narco pogo was like no problem
What's why I just go go go no problem?
Uh because I have so much energy from the machine and I did the uh quantum biofeedback machine last year to narco pogo
And uh, i'm 55 years old. I was 54 last year and uh, my tissue age was the same as a 30 year old
And I had the energy of my cells of a 10 year old
And that's exactly what I was feeling and actually I could I can just like I've
It seems like i'm de-aging in so many different ways
And what we think or no one knows exactly but it appears the plasma which you can get out of the ether
So it's all around us. Uh, that's the incredible thing. That's the most beautiful thing about all this stuff is
You know, you have big pharma and the doctors and the guys in the butcher coats with the really bad handwriting
And they'll tell you they can't cure anything big pharma has never cured anything ever
But they've got a million pills that'll make your life maybe a little better and then worse later
And then you know, you'll be broken dead at the end of it
When we actually have all that we need all around us
We just need a way to be able to grab that out of the ether and that's what the the tesla machine does and
What it basically does is it appears to revert your cells back to full functionality because most sickness is actually just because
People's cells their body just isn't operating properly because it's toxic with either all the toxins that is all around us with everything
Or even emotional toxins and and emotional trauma can actually be in your body
So every what we think we don't know
Is that it resorts your cells to like full electric functionality again
And when your body does that your body can heal itself of anything your body is an incredible
magical
Uh mystery basically like like what else do you have like I don't know how you are Ernie
But like I don't have anything that's 55 years old that I haven't really taken all that much care of
That still runs like awesome except for my body, right?
Like like everything else breaks after a couple of years. It just gets old or creaky and just dies
You got to replace parts and all this sort of stuff
But this body is amazing
But what we have to do is be able to make it run optimally
and of course there's other things involved in that like diet and exercise and stuff like that but
Most of the problems that people have is because their body is just toxic and it could be like I said physical
It could even be emotional or trauma based and this plasma out of the ether appears to bring those
parts of your body back to
Full function and when it does that whatever this ease that the doctors and the butcher coats tell you have
Which is just a description of a problem that you have
Usually seems to go away because the body can actually heal itself
If it has the energy and the and the full functionality to do it
Uh, and so that's what we think it does, but we don't really even know. It's incredible
What do you what do you think it is that had the biggest uh, and I you know, I don't want to
harp on it too much
But when jeff came over just to hang
Conversation we're setting up and so on. We're just yakking and I'm looking at I'm like a holy shit
You look like 10 years younger when I saw you last. What do you think?
Was mostly responsible for that was your emotional state, you know, your cleansing of your mind
Uh getting your mind right
Detoxine the plasma thing all combined no alcohol
I mean you you went full tilt on
Getting healthier and better
But what do you think was the most effective thing?
Well, I would say it's all of it for sure. Definitely stopping the alcohol
Was a huge power up for me
Then I got a much better diet
Then I started exercising and then I kind of went pretty wild with all kinds of things
I've got a hyperbaric chamber in my house. Um, I've got a lot of good things about that
Yeah, I've got a steam room and a sauna
I've got a cold plunge pool
So I do all those things and those have definitely all contributed
But I would say the biggest change has been since I've had the
Tesla machine two years ago because I couldn't actually do a lot of those things because I I felt kind of like sluggish, right?
Like I actually spent three to four hours a day in my spa gym every single day doing all these things
Um, but I I never had the energy to do it before
But once I had the Tesla machine all of a sudden I had the just basically unlimited energy
So I'm like, yeah, I'll go to the gym. I'll go on the treadmill. I'll lift some weight. So I'll go
In the steam room. I'll go on the sauna. I'll go on the cold plunge pool. I'll go get some sun outside
I'll go in the hyperbaric chamber just like everything just seemed so easy once I my body was just working so well with so much energy
So yeah, I would say it's it's definitely a combination of things
But by far the biggest difference has actually come from the Tesla machine
Well, a lot of the
This work you do on yourself and people should do and they get their mind and bodies right and so on
it it
In america, we are so
Inundated it's in the water. It's a fluoride. It's the chemicals. It's a centralized
We got, you know a water treatment plant for you and you have the air
I mean, I'm out here in the desert and I'm like, damn, there'd be chemtrail and something
You know, I take some pictures and I say I go what the heck is that and you can see it kind of go you could spirit
I'm going. Hey, man. I'm just saying this is not normal. This is abby normal. Okay
I'm just like this is not what I grew up with. I'm just saying
Well, what do you think? I don't know but it ain't normal
And then you have what's in our food. What's in our in our in our
After you do this
I'm wondering can you do it in america?
Is it even possible to get away from a lot of this coming? You know, we do you don't azer gardens and you know, we do
Best we can but you know, I'm is there another place to be as america it when I was on the beach in panama
Doing a little walkabout about what was going on in part of iarta with the the violence so on if there was any
I mean there was definitely smoke every half mile. They made sure, you know, it looked like a gaza, but the um
As i'm
Doing that i'm just is it america. Is that where we got to be?
Is it mexico? Is it somewhere else? Is it anywhere? Is it space? Is it out in the ocean?
Is it you know, where's your community? Where's galt's gulch?
And you got to find it or can you create it yourself, you know in your own
Area by doing the work on yourself your body your mind
What do you think is there you know, do we got to occupy the land?
Somewhere else or not even the land or space or go orbit mars mining asteroids
I mean, what is it that you think that we should be focused on?
Where we try and be free is there a place?
Well, I would start with everyone needs to really do the work on themselves
uh
We're just talking about to get out all these programs and get it physically mentally and spiritually really good
And then actually all this stuff becomes very
Obvious you see signs and symbols you get all kinds of downloads and stuff. So
Like I would say like there is no one place that is you know safe
There you know
And we didn't come to play this video game to be safe anyway, but
Uh, I would say for the most part trust your intuition and your gut
So, you know if you feel like that's where you should be and you've done that you sit there, right?
You do you're like meditating in the morning you just like for an hour and you're like, you know
Just trying to feel and you even ask the question, you know, should I be here and all of a sudden it becomes this like
Your body feels it and it goes. Yes, you're supposed to be here. Then that's where you're supposed to be
So that's that's what everyone needs to do. You really need to go inside for the answers
Um, and there is no safe place. Uh, but if you do the work, uh
Really, there's nothing ever to worry about at all. Um
And even inside this video game if you do the work you actually get through everything
You actually get you become like superhuman if you do the work. Um
Sort of like being a Jedi like uh, like even with the port of art to stuff, right?
Like nothing happened to any of our people and I think uh
Big part of that is because a lot of us are doing the work
And so a lot of our people just walk through it like no problem
And you know, it really wasn't a major massive event
It looked like it was at first and and of course in the news they said it was
It was just a bunch of buses on fire for the most part. Um, but because a lot of us
strategically located to make sure the town looked under smoke of I sit there and watched it from Panama and I'm going
Oh, this is so manipulative staged up. There's something, you know, Trump you got to get rid of the
fentanyl deal with the president of Mexico and take out one guy do kind of then we'll do Ecuador, Venezuela
A random kind of there's a thing and I'm just this is not, you know, what they're trying to depict
And I just that let let's get to that real quick
I don't want to spend a lot of time on it because it just make you talk about it
But um, are you going to go back to part of our tell you think next year?
Well, one of the interesting things was there was still a lot of people there when this terror attack
Happened which was mostly staged. Uh, it was mostly a show. Um, and it was done on purpose for
Yeah, mostly theater
Uh, and most of our people didn't fall for in fact max egan was out right as it was happening just with his camera laughing
Uh, a lot of alternative media people were there and they're going out and showing it's like there's nothing really happening
There's just a bunch of buses that are on fire and then actually another person went out and he saw that a bunch of the windshields
Were all melted and stuff
So we actually suspect there might have been directed energy weapons involved
But they actually picked the worst place to do this this thing because all of us are like used to this stuff
And we've all done the work. We're not scared of anything. We're not fearful
We're investigative and all that sort of thing
So it's kind of interesting like even a day after that happened
There was still a lot of people there and a lot of them went to maxis bar that night and they're all like
Yeah, I can't wait to come back next year. Even though it was like, you know, this terrorizing event, right? But
So yeah, most people I asked at the end of the event and this is before the terror attack
But I think it's still the same that most people would like to have it back in port of air to next year
So we probably will where we have it that's up for debate
We're going to be sending out a survey to everyone who came to the event
We're thinking we might even do it outside of like port of art itself and like san pancho and areas like that are on the
On the coast there about 45 minutes from port of air to
But that's all to be decided. But uh, yeah, so
Okay, I want to have a vote I get a vote
Everyone gets a vote, you know, we we all believe in the democracy
You know, like that's democracy is, you know, the most important thing
You know, I think I I really like the uh, an orc apoco because it was
um
Broke up into a lot of different groups you get to meet people and talk and so on you go see what you want to see
and um
You had the beach and it was on you the vendors the massage tables
You got the uh different resorts or different things that you've done in the past on the beach
This wasn't on the beach now. We were next to the beach
I mean you could go to the beach if you wanted to
But to have it at a resort that was on the beach added something to it
And it also kept a lot of the people in the same place that you could do that
It was it was pleasurable. It was nice. You really taxed out the taxis and the uber's but the um
It was it was pleasant. It was nice. I mean if it was there again, you know, I think it'd be cool
But I'm really like the the beach experience that there was one thing that I missed, you know
And if that could be accomplished that would be cool. Um
There is a lot of um
Predictions that I wanted to just get your opinion on
um
You know you talk about all the political stuff, you know the midterms and this guy said that and who gets prosecuted and
You know, are you gonna arrest anybody about anything and aren't you know in the wars and rumors of wars and all this stuff
It just it seems to me. What if they had a war and nobody came or cared?
You know, and I'm feeling that I'm just like man, you guys do you we're insulated from we're getting away from
We're getting our mind, right? You know, we're in the right place. We've found our tribe
We're focusing on our family and new family and and the community and so on
Um
Give us a view into the future a little bit. You know, what do you think's going to happen?
Man, that's a tough question. Um, I think the entire um, this is actually great news for us
I think all these governments um
And central banks they're all going to be collapsing in the next couple years
um
And then what how that plays out and what happens will be a little bumpy at the very least for a lot of people
Uh, that's why I'm quite a big proponent of getting out of major cities
Getting, you know, like where you are there where I am here on my ranch
Because I think as a lot of these things collapse, which is awesome and going to be so incredible
That it's going to be very messy because so many people are so in-neared and so tied to the system
That's uh, you know when the grocery store is closed when the banks collapse
You know, I wouldn't want to be in like new york city when that happened, right?
Um, and there's all kinds of other things
But I think the more that people just
Do what you're saying and just detach from the system and go off wherever they go
And create their new life and their new economy and their new
Whatever they're going to do grow their own food. I think the more that people do that the better
um, and I think
If they're smart, uh, if they're paying attention, uh, if they're doing the work, uh, they will probably have a
Be able to survive the next couple years and then after that, I think we could go on to an incredible new world
That would be yeah, just incredible
But you're going to have to survive the collapse of the old world. Uh, you're going to have to be smart to do that
You know one thing before you go, I
On narcopoco
Always videos it you get access to it. You able to see, you know, uh, the videos that you missed and so on
Um, you know, I'm sure I got access as a speaker thing whatever
But there was a bunch of things that I missed that I wanted to see because of scheduling
There was so much going on
How do I get to the videos man?
You know, it's you know, pipping out for the people we can go watch videos. What's that?
Yeah, you can get them at narcopoco.com
I don't know exactly where it is on the website, but it should be there probably near the top
Get virtual tickets or replays and uh, yeah go to tickets and then if you go there, they should
If you click on tickets, I think you have to actually click on it. I think it should open down below
Here you go
Uh, oh we got pre-sales for 2027 already. I didn't know about that. Um, scroll down
Oh, there you go. I think it passed it already
Scroll up scroll up. There it is. Scroll down. No, scroll down
Yeah, right there. An narcopoto 2026 virtual access. There you go
And if you want you can get the dollar vigilante and crypto vigilante bundle as well
Um, and yeah, there was so many incredible talks and we actually had two stages as you know
And we recorded all of it. So there's a massive amount of incredible information and incredible speakers
Um, so yeah, you can get access to all of it for just 150 bucks pretty good
It's like a I don't know got to be a hundred hours of of stuff
Which you can watch at your own pace, of course, unlike us at the event
We had to watch it like every single day every hour of every day
You can kind of take your time, but yeah, it's there's so much good information in there. I highly recommend it
Yeah, this is um, we're at a
It's a mile marker. We're at a mile marker in history. You know, this is you know, what's going on now is
You know, there's a before and there's an after there's a before
invasion of Iran, Venezuela, Ecuador, whatever trump kind of
Whatever and an orcopoco, you know home and we're just getting to the truth kind of deal
And there's an after and the after
I I'm I'm very very optimistic see the whole concept of freedom's phoenix was from the ashes of lady liberties torch
Freedom's rebirth freedom's phoenix. That was the point, you know for my grandkids
I'm like I we're going to have to go through the ashes
And when we saw in late 19, it was the movie joker came out with the walking phoenix
And I'm watching I'm like what the crap was that, you know
Is it it's like predictive programming kind of threw it and then that summer here we go portland and all that yep
Here we go
Here come the ashes and people going to have to start making decisions for themselves and their future and their families and
And you have you know a young you have a family you got a young son
Was on your shoulders out there and he was you know digging that but you know you got
He had to go put on a spider man outfit, man
Come back and show everybody so you got a young son
You you're looking into the future
Are you feeling pretty optimistic you okay?
Yeah, like in general, yes, um
I think it's going to be a very different world that he's going to grow up in
Even if you look at the ai stuff, which but I think the ai stuff is all actually going to start collapsing in a couple years
For a number of different reasons
Um, but yeah, no, I'm gonna you know
He's already like had so much better childhood than me or my my wife ever could have imagined
We're you know, just making sure his life is full of love and connection and never has to you know, worry about anything
and
It's just all beauty and love and and a huge family that he's always playing with and
Um, I just expect we'll just continue on like that
He'll never see the inside of a government indoctrination camp
Of course and just be unschooled and you know
Even if it ends up he just ends up running this ranch
And with all the animals and with all the greenhouses and growing our own food
And if he wants to make a business out of that at some point or whatever, I don't know
But you know, I'm not too worried
I even if it turns worst-case scenario and we go into this full terminator
Pellentier thing with drones coming around trying to kill us all all of us freedom fighters and stuff
Like
He's a he's a strong kid. We have a gym in our house. He's gonna be in the gym all the time
If he gets up to like, I don't know 16 years old and he's like in perfect physical shape
And we have to go be out in the mountains like basically fighting off the government drones with like
Cyber attacks that we're doing on them and stuff like that'd be pretty cool too. So even if it goes dystopian
I think we're really gonna enjoy just you know surviving it. Uh, and if it goes totally beautiful all the better
Thank you for spending time with me. Jeff, you know, I think it's um, this is a good message for people to see that
Resistance is not futile
There is a tribe out there that you can find if you're freedom oriented individual and it comes down to you know
Finding peace of mind, you know, just you know understanding the truth of things
And an orca poco is one of those things that if you're of this mind and you experience it you get a feeling
of relief
You're not alone. You're not crazy
You understand other people do
And there is a future and a lot of it is just being comfortable in your own skin with your own family and your own community
And an orca poco is a very good
Wide spread of all kinds of interest that you'll find something
To be there for and then of course part of our art was very nice
You know, you go around and it was safe even in the middle of all the crap it was safe
I mean, you know, this is it was such a sigh up and they do this every year
Cia says don't go there. You'll all die or you know, we have a travel warning of against or whatever or jeffson
You know agent of the whatever
Reptile just just bullshit. I mean, you know, it's just constant, you know
Oh and ike, you know, uh speaking he did a zoom thing, you know, that was very popular
You know like all of a sudden he's not crazy anymore
You know, so a lot of this stuff has just been
It was so refreshing. I really enjoyed it
Thanks for you know, inviting me down because I just I I really met a lot of great people. Oh
The founder of bit shoot is going to feature our project at the top and do I mean this is it's a really good networking
Opportunity as well and you get your mind and body right. It was really good experience
We look forward to promoting 27 and uh, I'm very interested in where it's going to be and how you know, we'll we'll participate
We'll we'll make something happen and you know, there's a lot of other stuff we can talk about but that kind of the gist of it before you go
I mean the the the
Visuals that they had for perturbi art and the violence and everything
On a scale 1 to 10, what kind of bullshit were we looking at?
Uh
I think looking back at it
10 out of 10
It was it was almost nothing in actual fact. It was really
About nine in the morning on sunday or eight in the morning all of a sudden and we're still not sure how this happened
Like there was a bus on fire on almost every street in port of aerta and a couple a bunch of oxo stores were all on fire
Uh, there was really not much else other than that. There was a couple gunshots fired
We do know of one one person was hit in the arm
But really there was hardly anything
It was mostly a show and then after that they just left and there was no police the entire day actually for two full days afterwards
There was no police. There was no fire people. They just let everything up fire and left
Um, and so as long as you didn't get lit on fire somehow or if you were in a building that was on fire
You could get out. There really was almost nothing. Um, that happened. It was it was truly a staged
Psychological operation for a number of agendas. Um, it was it was really incredible to witness like live inside of it
And that like I said, like maybe they did it that weekend
Partly because we were there because they do seem to target our our event. It just seems that's the case
Uh, and if that was the case they kind of backfired on them because max egan was out with in like a few minutes
They're doing with his camera saying what a joke this is
Like there's nothing to worry about and all that kind of stuff
Patrick Henningson was out there. Dan Dix was out there
Uh, we're I was doing a video. I was like, yeah, there's a bunch of fires. I don't know what's going on
But I watch your video behind your house there
I I I I'm really glad that
It happened to a crowd that you know understood they they could see they weren't all freaked out
I mean, you know early on Dan Dix was kind of you know
You know things are happening here, man
But um, it quickly evolved in that. Yeah, it's just you know, they them those doing their thing and we'll find out later
You know, it's always got to wait three weeks, you know find out what the real story is, but um
I'm glad that you're there. I'm looking forward to promoting what you're doing next year
And you got a great team, you know, take care of business and there's other festivals and so on that
Going and you guys are going to Lieberland Lieber to Poco, you know, maybe there might be something in New Hampshire
Maybe there might be there might be there might be let me know how we can help
I'm supportive, man. I'm glad you got the right mindset
You have great events and you have a lot of life changing presentations and confirmation of
Truth that people are feeling and they get to experience it. It's awesome
Anarcapoco anarcapoco 20 27 be a comment keeps getting better
Jeff Burwick, thank you very much. Jeff. It's been pleasure, man
Always a pleasure and a thank you. All right. Peace brother
peace