were joined by the presidential candidate in Romania, who won the first round of the elections,
Caelan George Escu. And I just wanted to do a quick highlight of the timeline of events
so people are aware. I said they had a first round of elections on November 24th. His unexpected
win caused widespread surprise and concern. That's what they say. The constitutional court
then ordered a recount on November 28th. On December 2nd, the court validated the election
results. Then on December 6th, the court turned course and annulled those election results
at the, whilst the second round voting was happening, as I understand it. The constitutional court said,
in particular, that it was the, quote, illegal use of digital technologies, including artificial
intelligence, as well as the use of undeclared sources of funding. It said one candidate,
the person we're talking with, received preferential treatment on social media platforms,
which resulted in the, quote, distortion of the voter's expressed will. I have to say,
this reminds me of what happened, what was alleged with Trump during the 2016 election.
So it's pretty crazy. Doug, what, what, what did, we'll start off the first question for,
for, for our guest. Yeah, I really think it's scandalous, Caelan. We're, we're not in Romania.
I've been there several times over the years. Oddly enough, the first time,
Christmas, I don't know, New Year's Eve in 1967, it was when I first entered Romania.
But it's scandalous that about these things, what don't these people like about you? What do you
think? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for, for this point. You know, there are one or two,
two main topics on this subject. First of all, that they didn't expect simply that
Romanian people can, can take the leadership if I can say. So simply they consider that
everything can continue. The political and the oligarch system can control everything,
controlling the votes, control the democracy, which I guess doesn't exist.
And nobody cares about the people needs. This is number one. And number two,
is we discuss about another paradigm, another, as I said, we have to change the system,
other people. And they, they don't agree that because my project for Romania
was only one piece and not only for Romania, for the region. In the moment when they hear about
this, they simply, they can accept this because they're looking for just the war.
And this is the main subject, which in fact destroy, more or less, the entire Europe.
So these are the main points. And of course, the democracy was simply killed by them
and could be a precedent for any country in the world. And this is a mainly
for the problem, which we have to face now all of us. We look only for a week.
It's for all of us. Because simply they, those people, they cannot accept
the country, the people, they, they, they, they have to change or we are changing.
What are they? What are the idea of changing the system is obviously what scares them. But
was there any besides the, you know, your pro-peace, I get it. You're, you know, you don't
want war. That bothers people. But is there anything like, what in, is there, what in
particular about changing the system? What, what do you mean by that?
The change meant was that my program should work through energy. We can
is a consistent, proven, based on some routine
establishment, which does mean the power of each person to be
economy dependent. It will my point. Economic in depth, I say, does in to spread
private property, the productive private property in most of countries.
Which in other words, we empower so small and
entrepreneurs in college and Romanian entrepreneurs.
And to foster all the activity on the internal economy in a sense that all the,
how I can say, all the values which Romania has, all the,
the rich, the richness, which Romania has have to
elongate to the Romanian people, not to others. So this does mean that
even the, the mineral resources, the water, the land,
everything, it longs to the Romanian people, which does mean Romanian first.
And of course, they cannot accept this because Romania, it's a very rich country.
And of course, they capture already and they want to work.
Exactly what is like after the natural resources, but the natural resources
belongs to their people. At least was my, my point.
I end on this side, the game, that I'm the person who I introduce this
forces to in sprees anyway, the productive farming, which does mean
the state will help the people with this technology, same with mends,
with so local banks, so Romanian bats, in order to sell their ownership.
To help the private entrepreneurs in order to make the welfare for the country.
This is a very important point.
Don't give me the, sorry, just one second, sir.
Okay, but maybe, maybe there's more to it than that.
Maybe the fact that you don't want to see, if I'm correct,
you don't want to see mass immigration to Romania from alien cultures.
This is another point, yes.
And also, you don't want to see the Romanian people used in a medical experiment
for these new vaccines, which I think impress us as being very dangerous.
And of course, the big thing is that you don't want to get involved in this war
that NATO is fomenting against the Russians.
So you're at odds with these people in Brussels.
What are you going to do about that?
Now that, now that they're knocking you out of the presidency, what are you,
what can you do about it?
Well, I said very clearly now, if I'm introduced, when they ask me what I have to do,
what, what I shall do, whether when I should be president or related result,
the support for Ukraine.
And I said very clear that the support will be stopped.
And the war have to be stopped immediately.
We have nothing to do with this war, nothing to do with everything which has happened there.
And we have to take care about our own country first.
So again, Romania first, not second, first.
In this moment, based on what they, they did so far, the politicians in Romania,
yeah, he's living in Romania first, he's Ukrainian, Ukrainian first.
So when it's speaking, we have to take care about our country.
And moreover, the main important pillar is to hold for the stock.
It's so crazy war, which is, it's not good for nobody.
This is the only one of the constraints.
The war, in general, is not good.
We had in 2000, in 2004, there were many, and we have a war in the middle of the world.
Of course, our country has been in this absolutely critical,
don't use the diplomacy first and use their weapons.
So it's not, okay, it's not critical.
Realistic, essentially.
You're absolutely right, I think.
Do you think that the European Union is going to fall apart?
Because Orban in Hungary is at odds with the EU.
The German government is falling apart.
The French government is falling apart.
Maybe the European Union is going to fall apart,
because these people in Brussels are trying to be dictators.
What do you think about that?
Look how it's, our lands, we didn't receive our lands from Brussels or from Washington.
We receive our lands from God in the spirit of God.
So we have to respect our land, we have to respect our people,
and moreover, we have to respect the Pyongyang people.
So here I am.
I don't care what they are doing, but I care in order to have hyper-magic approach
and dialogue with everybody.
I'm looking to stay on the table with the 80% of people.
This being of peace, as we condemn, the legal process,
not just for them, it's nothing for us.
Romania right now, it's us about the country, it's more than 20%.
Well, it's pretty shocking.
It's pretty shocking.
Yeah, I mean, you won the election, the court approved it,
and then they changed their mind.
It's like somebody talked to the members of the court
and got them to change their minds.
I mean, this is quite shameful.
What can you do?
Is there anything you can do?
Yeah, absolutely.
The problem is that the interests of politicians,
in for justice, which does mean that we have not justice,
but I'm sure that there are people with distinctive justice.
It was a system, and that we're sure that there will be a real decision,
which by the way, I have to kind of support on what they wanted.
It is hopefully to take this decision.
So what I can ask for the international community
is to speak about these subjects,
make a pression about the democracy to be stolen again,
to compete.
It was right now, it's us about the dictatorship.
And here we are, because it's what you can do to everybody,
the international community.
Because again, with your precedence,
with any country it was, I think it's like in the case.
Well, we're on your side,
and anything that we can do to make people aware of this,
because most Americans are unaware of what's going on in Romania.
It's a pity.
They are aware of that, because if this is why they insist that we push
or we should report which country we vote out,
this does mean that the authoritarian dictatorship
has a sense that we're on the cheap option.
They have an emergency situation,
and this does prevent the current President Biden from taking place.
It's exactly like in Romania.
So here we discuss about the data, and definitely here we are.
We discuss about the data here.
And I'm totally surprised that international community,
not the media, not the journalists, there are a lot.
But we discuss about the official position for the United States,
that being the situation critical of democracy will mean.
Well, perhaps when Trump is inaugurated, hopefully on January 20th,
the position of the United States towards this will change,
and you will get some serious support from the US.
It's similar.
I disagree with this point, because we are not in the position as human being,
and as a country, I'm speaking about America,
who's a strong leader and milestone basis in democracy
to wait until the January 20th with your permission.
Have you here a position?
Quickly, because today already we discuss about two weeks
already from the coup d'etat, which was happened in December 6th.
And in two weeks' time, we have not any official position
from the United States particularly.
So I'm not the waiting, we discuss about our dignity.
We discuss about our people.
We discuss about, again, a precedent, which could happen everywhere,
or any place in the world.
So there's not a point to wait until January 20th.
Even after January 20th, we know very well,
how is the situation in the United States,
which is not easy, economic, social.
There are so many problems.
We discuss about the simple gist of dignity of human being,
of realistic terms to have someone to say,
hey, what we are doing with the democracy of the world?
Because it's the first time when it's happened such a thing in the world,
which is crazy, absolutely crazy.
There's someone to cancel the election, to cancel the vote.
It was already from Friday morning, the vote was starting, by the way,
outside of Romania.
And they closed the votes in the afternoon, which doesn't mean
we had already more than 40,000 voters until that time.
And they canceled the vote.
And what is going on here?
And is not there any reaction, any official reaction?
I'm sorry, sir, how are the people there,
your supporters responding to this in Romania today?
Well, myself for all the time,
I said that the only democracy for us is the vote,
and we have to continue to plead to vote, to heed our freedom,
to believe in what we can do as free people.
And I ask the people who are just privileged to stay calm,
to stay relaxed, and to weigh the decision of the courts.
This was my position.
It is, of course, my position was, I mean, I don't want to
ask about other pre-festation, because we are here, I disagree that
my only position, which I agree, and I talk about this before, is the vote.
The vote is a freedom of the people for it.
So we have to continue to believe on that, to believe in justice,
and the justice to make the job.
Right, and so there's a court case, as I understood quickly on Monday,
hearing regarding the matter.
Yeah, Monday morning is hopefully to give the Romanian people the right to see,
in order to continue with the second round.
Okay, so we'll know more next week.
And maybe the story will have a happy ending after all as of next week.
Do you think so?
We are strongly believed, I believe in God, all the Romanian people believe in God,
and we are sure that the last decision we've had, and the ultimate decision is from God.
We are strongly believed on that, and we are sure that
everything will be okay until the end.
But of course, also we cannot accept that this is happening in Romania
after 35 years, after the revolution in 1999, where actually we had more than 1,000 people killed,
just for freedom.
Yes, your country has a very recent history of a hard won freedom,
and most countries in the world do not have that recent experience.
So your people know how it was under the old system, fought for a new one.
Yeah, totally active with youth, exactly.
So very much appreciate the interview with you, very much appreciate your support.
And of course, we are totally together, all of us, but the Christmas time is coming very soon.
And the Christmas night, that means that we need to be together.
The people have to be together everywhere.
You don't need one country, but everywhere in the planet for freedom, for peace, and for cooperation.
So thank you very much again, and looking forward for your relationship working this summer.
Thank you, sir.
We'll do our best to get the word out about this.
And if there are events next week that come up or might be worthy to have a discussion,
again, we'd be happy to do it here once the quarter.
They're thinking, looking for okay.
Thank you, sirs.
We wish you well and merry Christmas.
All right.
So Doug, we didn't have them for long.
It's nighttime, not great audio.
I'm just trying to clean it up as best I can.
But what are your thoughts on the situation?
Well, he sounds pretty good to me.
He didn't want to go into his views, which, as far as I know, are favorable about mass migration
and about the vaccine.
And there was a third area where, other than being anti-war, wasn't there?
Yeah, he says a couple of them.
Well, that one was that he believed that the climate change thing was a business scam,
I believe is what he called that.
And there's a few other things.
I asked Chat2DP what are his most controversial ideas.
And they said anti-globalism, because he's arguing that the international institutions
and multinational corporations erode national sovereignty.
So he's also this anti-vaccine stance is what they call it.
As I understand it, I think he wrote the forward for the translation of RFK Jr.'s book,
The Real Anthony Fauci, which is shocking if you haven't read that.
So the climate change denial is another one.
That's business scam.
The opposition to NATO, anti-feminism, the fact that it says,
this is actually shocking to me that has this.
He says his promotion of organic agriculture is a controversial issue.
And then the TikTok driven populism, because this is a candidate,
it did not spend officially on his campaign at all.
And it's all organic.
And supposedly, this is the issue is that he was,
my must have been, you know, they're arguing that it was Russian interference
in some way that it was also popular in social media.
And the other thing is economic isolationism, as they say.
But he argued, he explained a little bit what he meant, but that is
support for small and medium sized businesses and Romanian ownership of the assets of the country,
Romanian citizens versus foreigners, and things like that.
I mean, none of these things are really controversial, I don't think.
I mean, we don't know the particular policies that might be, you know,
but otherwise, I think you can understand why he was so popular, why he is so popular.
I can understand that very much.
And it is absolutely shocking the way the court approved his election
or certified it, I guess it would be in the U.S.
and then changed their minds after some entities or some people talked to them.
I mean, that's on its face, it's, I mean, it's just, it stinks to high heaven.
And incidentally, the same type of thing is going on right now in Georgia,
where this woman who is the current president is looking for intervention from the European Union
to overturn the fact that she lost the elections.
I mean, she'd actually like the EU to get involved and overturn the elections in Georgia
because she lost.
And then trying the color revolution stuff there was going on, right?
I mean, to me, it's, and maybe you figured out, hey, that's not,
that didn't work out so well, we didn't win.
So let's, we have to not allow the election at all to occur.
Yeah, yeah, elections have actually become a sham where you can't trust the results.
And if the powers of be don't like the results, they'll do their best to invalidate it.
So it's, all of this can be solved just by having complete free markets,
where the government doesn't control the country.
I mean, elections are unimportant if all the government does is have a police force
and a court system and a military to keep active invaders out.
But governments today do everything, but those three things, it doesn't do those three things
effectively, it does everything else.
So of course, everybody is grabbing for the reins of power.
Right.
And yeah, go ahead.
He said, you know, Romania has taken on a Ukraine first policy
rather than a Romanian first policy.
But even not Ukraine, it's not even about Ukraine.
I mean, Ukraine, isn't a Ukraine first policy?
No, it's not.
Yeah, that's, that's right.
We have to fight this, this war against Russia to the absolute last Ukrainian.
It's, it's, it's absolutely insane.
It really, I feel like I'm living in a bizarre world on so many levels, quite frankly.
Yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent.
It seems like a sincere and honest guy.
I'm not sure we'd agree with him on every issue, but I'm sure we wouldn't.
But Jesus, I mean, it's insane that it's insane that they just canceled the election like that.
And he said this, so they have Americans might not be familiar,
but a lot of countries have a multiple stages of an election.
They do this in Uruguay here too, where they have,
so you can have a whole bunch of candidates run.
So it's not just closed off to two parties,
basically like it is in the U.S.
And so lots of candidates can get on the ballot.
I think there were 13 total candidates on the ballot he was on.
He comes out the winner of that, and then they, then they have their second round.
And it was while the second round, basically to make sure that the person who wins has
a clear majority.
So they take the two best candidates from the first round, and then they do a runoff.
And to me, I like that.
I love that idea, by the way, because it shows,
it's not so risky for people to express their support for a third party candidate,
for instance, you know, because, you know, if they don't win the first one,
then they can get another chance to vote.
So it was during the election, the final round that the Supreme Court ruled that the first
one was invalid and immediately shut down polling places.
I mean, that's insane.
I mean, it was like the last second with, you know,
I don't know what to say about it, honestly.
Yeah, and actually, you brought up something that it's worth looking at.
Americans think of the two-party system in the U.S. as being part of the cosmic firmament,
like that's the way it's always been, and that's the way it should be.
But you look at the Democratic Party and they put up two people in the last election,
Biden and Harris, who were, you know, one man is in his donage and one person is manifestly stupid
and unqualified totally.
So who put these two people up to represent one of the largest parties?
I mean, and then, of course, under the circumstances, you have to support Trump
for the Republicans, but he's kind of conducted a soft-cooted towel within the Republican Party,
but there's lots and lots of people in the country that don't want either one of them,
but they have absolutely nothing to say about it.
So the two-party system in the U.S., I mean, we can argue, could be replaced by the type
of thing that you have a pre-election and then go from there.
And what was it in the Federalist Papers?
One thing that they always said in the Federalist Papers was that the worst thing that can happen
to a country is that it breaks into factions, but factions, which was a word that was used
a lot in the Federalist Papers, really meant political parties, which was not a phrase that
was used back then. They were called factions, and that's exactly what happened.
And nobody discusses that, just like the fact that you've got these two political parties that,
there's a good argument that can be made that the Democratic Party
is going to cease to exist, just like the Whigs used to exist, and now they no longer do,
and the Federalist Party used to exist, and now it no longer does.
And who knows what's going to happen to the Republican Party, which has become the
MAGA Party. So I don't know. It's a chaotic situation.
Yeah, it's very interesting. I didn't actually realize that that's, I haven't read the Federalist
Papers since I was in high school, and I don't have your memory, so I can't remember
all the details as well. But yeah, it says these divisions can result in the formation
of groups that pursue their interests at the expense of others. So yes, these parties
definitely, and that's how they kept RFK Jr. completely off the ballot. They wouldn't let
them even compete on the Democratic ticket. Yeah, and RFK Jr. had wide support. I mean,
I've seen numbers that would indicate that 20, 25% of the people, which is a huge number in the U.S.,
supported him for president, but he couldn't go anywhere because he didn't have control
of the apparatus of either party, and he was blocked out.
It's all a fraud, Doug. I think it's the entire thing.
In this guy's case, because we're all about democracy, all about democracy,
and as soon as it actually, the results are not, don't come out in a predictable way,
or let's say a tolerable way, then they're swept aside. They probably think with 13 candidates,
he's popular, he doesn't have any money though. He's not going to be one of the two
remaining standing. They go to the runoff, and they lost that gamble, and so they canceled the
entire thing. Well, this is happening throughout Europe because in Germany, the AFD party, which has
similar views to what Katelyn has in Romania, and they're more or less
anti-state and free market oriented, more or less, but a vast improvement from an individual's
point of view to all the ultra-leftist parties in Germany, I mean, they try to illegalize
that party, the AFD party in Germany, and the same things happening in France, where Marie
Le Pen, whatever her faults are, was basically blocked out in their last elections, and the
same thing happened in England, where this horrible person, Keir Starmer, was installed.
Democracy really is a sham throughout the Western world, and that goes to Canada as well with Trudeau.
Yeah, exactly. I wonder, yeah, maybe it's always been that way,
and just now the dissension among the people toward the system is so massive that
it's becoming obvious that these problems exist. Yeah, so people aren't going to go out into
the streets with pitchforks and torches the way they might have 100 years ago,
but what are they going to do today if the average person is unhappy? A standard of living
is dropping everywhere. Certainly, well, not the people of the top 10%, their standard of
living is going up. They're becoming wealthier, and especially the top 1%, but the bottom 50%
are losing ground and getting further in debt for credit cards and to finance their cars
and to pay for their stupid college educations and just to live from day to day,
so they're getting rather unhappy. I don't know if we'll reach a boiling point or not.
Well, Mania will be a good test case for this because it's the way he's handled it so far
by telling everybody to just chill out and let's see how the process, like let's use the process,
we got to believe in the process, is smart because if they did anything up until this
point at least they would just be used against them. But the question comes like if this court
case or this hearing on Monday doesn't resolve anything, what are you going to do? These people
who literally fought against the dictator get out of this bad situation not long ago. I mean,
living memory for a good part of the population at least, when something is taken from them
like this so directly, so in their face, so without plausible deniability, how do you think
they might handle it? Yeah, the Romanians had a really nasty dictatorship under Ceausescu,
who was the name of this guy. It was absolutely horrible. And the secret police force that he
had was the second worst in Eastern Europe after the Stasi in Germany. And it was recent
enough that people remember these things and they don't particularly want to be bossed around again.
So it's going to be really interesting to see what happens in Romania, which I'm just guessing.
Not one out of 20 Americans have even heard about this.
I think you're right. And one of the major... Sorry, go ahead.
Oh, I was going to say, I'm guessing one out of 20, but I'm probably overly optimistic. It's
probably like one out of 40 or something. I think you're right. I think you're right. I mean,
I remember seeing headlines about it, but no discussion. And the fact that I'm really
grateful he wanted to come on with us, but the fact that he is not on Fox News talking about it
or in any of the major press talking about it, he has to go to people like us, you know,
is just shows that I think that there's an effort on the part of the powers of B
or whatever the money class, I don't know, to make sure his message is not out there clearly.
Just they want to go away and swoop onto the road. Yeah. The ruling classes in the world,
the international deep state, if you would, don't want to have their rice bowls broken
with people that would disenfranchise the huge amount of power that they have.
So, yeah, no wonder he can't get his message out. And no wonder we tried to overturn his election.
Well, much the same way that they overturned, tried to overturn Trump's election.
And of course, Trump isn't an office shut. So they're capable of anything in between now and
January 20th, I think. Same thing. Yeah. I see they wouldn't, but I've heard rumors of stuff.
I don't want to substantiate them. But what do you think? Until I know more. But what do you
think about the, what effect does this NATO base that they've got in Romania? Is it NATO or US
base in Romania? They've got a big one there. And apparently, I wonder how much that factors
into the equation. Well, of course, when we say NATO base, we really mean a US base,
because none of the other countries in NATO bring any, bring very much to the party at all,
militarily, quite frankly. So it's, perhaps it's a sign of a declining degraded empire like the
US is. They're going supernova. It's like a star that's blowing up. It's at its brightest,
just when it's coming to its end. And I think that's the case with the US. It's
financially bankrupt, economically in trouble, sociologically unstable. But the stock market's
hitting new highs. Not the last few days. It's been a little rough, I think.
Yeah. Yeah, this could all come on blued just overnight. So I don't know.
We're on the edge of chaos the way I see it. That doesn't mean that tomorrow morning,
everything is going to change even next week. But it's a slow degradation for the people on the
bottom half of society. And on the top half, things could fall apart very, very, very, very
quickly on a number of levels. And I'm not even counting the possibility of nuclear war,
whether it starts in the Ukraine, with the Russians or with the Israelis and the
Israelis and the Iranians. Because of course, if the Israelis push this thing with the Iranians
very far, like many other countries, the Iranians are well known to be on the edge
of creating their own nuclear weapons. It's no longer rocket science, even rocket science,
to be able to create a nuclear weapon. And of all people in the world,
the Israelis should be afraid of nuclear weapons being used. But the Iranians can get them. Listen,
they can get them from the Pakistanis who have lots of them and who are fellow Muslims,
in addition to the fact that they're on the point of making their own. And if the Israelis
try to preemptively take out the Iranian facilities to build their own,
they'll just come back and do it again. Or maybe they'll just buy some bombs from the
Pakistanis. Or maybe there are still bombs floating around from the collapse of the
Soviet Union 30 years ago, possibly. That's one of the allegations or something
around that with this drone activity in New Jersey. It was one of the theories that they're,
I don't know if you've seen this or not, that they're like nuke snippers in some way.
And nobody says, to me, this is actually one of the most amazing things
that I've seen the U.S. government do when it comes to pure duplicity and incompetence,
is this is well known. I mean, throughout the U.S. that there are hundreds of drones and
many, many, many, many thousands of millions of sightings of these drones floating around the
Northeast U.S. at night. And the U.S. government says, well, we don't know, but if we know
they're not dangerous and don't worry, nothing to see here, it's absolutely insane. And the
average person has got to think, you know what, we have a military and the military has got
lots of helicopters throughout the Northeast. Why don't they put up some helicopters with
spotlights or at least night vision devices and shine them on the drones and see what they are.
Maybe even force a couple down, which wouldn't be very hard to do. And who is putting up all these
drones? What are they doing? What are their capabilities? They're not doing this. And this
is going on for weeks and weeks with nothing but denials from these corrupt government officials.
I mean, this has got to be a disconnect going on in the average American's mind at this point.
It's gone too far. What do you think is plausible? What do you think is going on with the drones?
The most plausible excuse that I've heard is that there's a nuclear device or some type of
radiological weapon or something of that nature that's gotten out of the bag and they're trying
to find it. Okay, that makes sense. But running drones around at night to try to find it,
I don't think that helps the situation. I mean, you'd think that there would be some way,
if that was the case, that they could do it during the daytime in that such a
chaotic and mismanaged manner. So if they alerted the public about it,
I think this is a plausible scenario one that is, I agree, the most plausible.
If they were doing it during the day, would alert the public too much about it,
where the public would clearly be able to see and watch what's going on and be like,
this something they would ask too many questions. And if they had to alert them that no work,
we actually are concerned that there could be something like this out there,
that there would be panic in that highly populated area, wouldn't there?
Maybe, but there's already something verging on panic. And if they're looking for a nuclear device
or radiological device, wouldn't they have already centered their search towards one area
and then go in with boots on the ground to look at it as opposed to
having pods apparently of three or four or five drones at once floating around
and large drones, stop little toy drones? I mean, this does nothing but create suspicion.
Somebody's head's got a role for this.
Yeah. I mean, if it is a radiological weapon or this,
I mean, you can imagine them doing drones at night and then during the day they just
and then also by day and night, they probably have, you know, ground based stuff running around
trucks that are, you know, that don't draw as much attention driving around areas as well,
trying to collect that data. But, you know, obviously, if there's something
terrible happens with this, you know, it is would it might affect the election results
here in a way, right? I mean, couldn't this create that plausible scenario where
emergency powers need to be evoked and the, you know, the election can be set aside and that
could delay Trump getting into office? Well, there's been a transfer of power during
declared wars in the past. So would that really be an excuse? But then again, as
George, as Kale and George Esku has just pointed out, you know, this can happen right before your
very eyes. So anything could happen, anything could happen at this point in the United States
and they'll come up with some kind of a plausible, basically bullshit excuse, but
kind of plausible why you can't have Trump in office. Who knows? I mean, you can't trust anything
these days and you can't trust the media. And as nice as it is that we can get boots on the
ground reporting from hundreds of blogsters that are out there. Can you really, which ones of
them can you really rely on? And what facilities do they have to get actual accurate news?
So you can't trust the mass media and you can't trust, well, it really gets back to
what you should do is look out for number one, make sure that your own personal life is in
order and do the best you can to help your family and friends and neighbors
and expand things slowly from there. But
what are you saying? Basically have a responsibility for all that's in your control
and focus your energy there. That's what you're saying.
Why not to be overly distracted with crazy rumors that are going on way beyond your control
or even actual knowledge? I heard there are flying saucers out there. You could start any
kind of a rumor and it might get lagged and people would repeat it today.
Well, it's not so much reliable. You can't trust anything and you certainly can't trust
the US government. I want to add to the rumors a little bit now which is going to
what you say we should do is that I saw this democratic guy talking about how
that starting on December 20th that they were going to do something to counteract the victory.
Just a guy talking, it was into, I was on TikTok or something posted on Twitter.
And then I see this morning when I got up a post on Twitter that says
Kamala Harris just abruptly canceled her planned trip to California and quote,
raised to the White House per reporters. Biden also just returned to DC after being
expected to stay in Delaware until after Christmas. Is something going on?
I heard about that last night. My wife who monitors these things told me that
Kamala was rushed to the White House with sirens and red lights and all this type of thing.
Why would that be necessary? What's the point? What's going on?
Has there been any explanation of this so far?
There has not. But to me it is funny that this is basically happening on December 20th
which is what that guy was just saying in that video like is if I don't know that there were
some plan and then you have put this together with the drone incidents that are ongoing in New Jersey
added to this radical action that was taken in Romania to overturn that election there.
And you know these are we don't know the we don't know all the details
in any of these things but those things together that like those those details together paint a very
dire picture that make me to reconsider my position on the idea that oh he'll come Trump will
be in office on January 20th. They aren't going to do anything stupid. I think it'll be okay.
You know it makes me wish that I really only cared about what the Kardashians
and professional football teams were doing. It would make life so much more simple and let's
worry some quite frankly. Well this is what most Americans I think decided a while ago and
have checked out every kind of important matter and are only focused on entertainment so.
Yeah yeah well I guess it's cheap entertainment as long as they don't blow the world up which
is entirely possible at this point really. It really is. Okay well I think it would be interesting if
whatever happens on Monday especially if things don't go the way that that Kalin hopes on Monday
that maybe we can get them back on and get another 20 minutes with them just to get an update
if you're up for it. Oh I definitely be up for it and I hope that we can get a proper video
hookup with them as opposed to a cell phone which is pretty marginal.
Yeah and he's he's obviously it's he was uh he's five hours ahead of us in the northern
hemisphere so it's like 5 p.m. his time in Romania and dark. It makes me happy to be in
the southern hemisphere right now where it's summer. Well and that's and that's not the
only reason why it's nice to be down here quite frankly and uh no I'm sure he can get a good
set up because it's not like Romania is a primitive and backward country because it's not.
Not it isn't. Okay well we'll see if we can do that and we'll see if anything really interesting
happens this weekend with with maybe maybe Kamala being rushed to the White House could
lead to an interesting news weekend. Yeah yeah that's right anything is possible I mean let
your imagination go absolutely wild because it's all possible at this point.
Maybe it's maybe they made contact with the these drones they're not drones they're UFOs and maybe
the aliens they wanted to talk to her leader and so she's rushing to the scene to make sure she's
there. That's really comical it's like something out of idiocracy I think what came all up for us
is being our our leader of all people oh well. All right well I'll uh yeah I'll see if I can clean
up his audio a little bit and I'll get this published and see hopefully people can hear it well enough
and then we'll be back next week with more. Okay great good week. Thanks. You too.