Hi, Dustin, you're muted. Let's do a sound check real quick before we go on test one two three
Also, your camera is off. We can't see your camera. And we still have a few minutes
Okay
Okay, just so you know, I think we may be already live if you want to check on the
On the channel because I just did the set up here. Let me look
You see where it is on rumble
Is it on your normal? Yeah. Yeah, Victor Hugo are on the room. I don't see anything live there yet
I'll chat refresh. There it is cool. I'll share it
Yeah, okay, cool. So I'm waiting for a
Jackie to come in I wanted to give you and Jackie the first go
But if Jackie doesn't show up, I haven't heard back from her
So that's kind of strange because the whole reason this
Debate was supposed to happen in the first place was because
She went on your
uncensored church
And started telling everybody on your uncensored church that you were going to have a debate
She kind of dug a hole and then you jumped in there with her
Well, I don't know. I just offered to uh moderate the debate, but uh, why do you suppose
We don't
That's that's uh, that's on a different thing. That's going to be you and I just presenting evidence really that the debate is
You're going to expose me as a liar or I'm going to expose you as a liar. There's it's kind of like not really uh
Need for a moderator. You're just going to show me the evidence that I'm going to
moderate
That's kind of when you would need a moderator, but the Jackie thing is a quick side show and won't take long
Well, the reason why I'm saying we don't need a moderator is because basically you'll share the screen and you'll show me
The emails between you and Diane and with you and Kenan son of enos and I mean, you don't need a moderator to show the emails
you'll be able to show the proof that uh that
I didn't host because you sent out a
press release today saying that um, you hosted last week's
Livestream in the week before you'd have to show evidence of that. See I'm just going to show the evidence
I tend to respond to your press releases. I don't actually do press releases
Uh, and as far as uh, what was your other point?
Oh, um, yeah
The Jackie thing I want to address that first because like I said the audience
Is may not be aware that she went on the uncensored church
and you and her were uh, uh debating
She had set your allegations
and and then she
Came back to me and said that she had all sorts of evidence that she wanted to present
And uh, there were several people from her congregation who also
Were saying that they were going to back her up
So this seems kind of strange to me and I will have to give credit where credit is due
If this person fails to show up then those allegations that she made against you are
Unwarranted because I need proof and I need evidence
And I'm not going to believe anything that anybody says against you if when given the opportunity and asking me
For that opportunity to host a debate
they failed
I've never been able to successfully have a unmoderated debate, but hey, maybe it's the first
Well, let's put it this way. Let's show our audience
that you and I
can actually set the example
be like jesus
and
You know what? I'm not afraid to say that jesus is in me because uh
Well, you called yourself jesus. That's this is of course. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna get it. We're gonna get into that
we're gonna get into that because I
I want to address all these allegations that you're making against me
But let's address the allegations that were made against each other first
Like when you call me a pedophile
Yeah, we're gonna address every single thing
We're gonna address everything. So let's I guess it's it's a minute after the time
So I think we are actually live now. Can you check and see if we're actually live?
Where's the background?
There's people in the audience there uh scooting h.a.m
Hi, everybody
All right. So here we are
Uh jacks attack says i'm sad you guys aren't friends now. It's not about us being friends
This is about just getting at the truth. So
What happened you said we were friends
Oh, okay. Well, I considered you a friend dustin, but if you didn't then that's okay. That's fair
But uh, I did you for a while
friend
Well, I'm not afraid to say I I considered you a friend and uh, that's why this saddens me because I really trusted you
But in the emails that I've read from you apparently you always
Had ulterior motives and that's fine. I I teach as I say publicly often the best way to reveal the serpents let him speak
And I'll go on any platform how I've been on cbs. That doesn't mean I endorse them. I'm not friends with cbs
I
I've also been on cbs. That doesn't make a difference to me
It's not a pissing contest. Anyway, all right. Let's get right into this
people
Go ahead and leave your comments. I will try to read them dustin
Can you read some of the comments as well?
If people are commenting in there because let's engage
Somebody says dustin pay attention. What am I missing?
Let's let's engage with the audience. Let's let's make sure that there's no ad hominem attacks
Let's make sure that we are civil. Let's show people that we could be above board. Let's set the example, please. All right
I will not tolerate
Like, you know, if you you want to call me fat, that's fine
But I will not tolerate any kind of ad hominem attacks
And I don't expect you to tolerate them either. So only if you call me a profiteer because like
Starting artists versus, you know gypsy santa claus. Like that's not fair. I have to point out
I'm not gonna uh, I'm not gonna
Engage with you in that matter. I'm telling you that here called me a profiteer. I had a file victor
Is is is responding to that too too much for you? You condition out. You can't take it
Dustin, I see what you're your lies
You're vile
Vicious victor. We're gonna get you tonight
Dustin, I see what you're doing. I see how you're trying to manipulate the situation. I'm not gonna engage with you
Did you or did you not insinuate? I'm a pedophile victor
You don't want to engage with it because you did it and you don't want people to know
You did it at least two or three times on your show in the last
Two or three live streams that you've done about me
Which I've got recorded and on my platform in full
So now you're trying to hide from what you said
You said it
And you've also called at least two other people a pedophile this last week with no evidence
This starts off with what we're going to go through with victor's breakdown
Which started because
I tried to help my mother or my friend's mother who's in prison
Because victor wouldn't he refused to when she asked
And then he started throwing Jackie and pedophile
Gay stripper and everything else at his former guest and friend
Let's do this
When you're ready, I'll do my opening and then we'll go
Well, Dustin, uh
like I said
I'm not going to engage in your game
I see the manipulation that you're doing and I trust that the audience
Sees it as well because it's that mean you deny that you said it
You did not say those things on your live chat yesterday and the day before
What do you mean not engage are you not going to address the things that you said about me that were lies
You're not ready
Dustin I told you already I see what you're doing
The audience I'm calling you out in your lies victor and you can't address it
You don't want to talk about it because you're caught lying
You're not ready for this victor and tonight is the end of your career. I hope you're ready
Jackie won't save you
Calling yourself jesus or a quote an angel of the lord is not going to save you
You're going to be exposed for your lies and destiny most is going to come out on top as always
So Dustin again
I see what you're doing
And I'm not going to put up with it
What I'm trying to do is trying to actually start
this show
What you're doing later than good point
I'm going to allow you to keep exposing yourself because like you said
Victor I didn't call you a pedophile without evidence and I don't call anybody a pedophile without evidence
But I've exposed about a hundred of them
And I take it very seriously when you throw that word around because I think it stills from the actual victims
The actual child victims who are actually suffering pedophilia when you just call everybody who doesn't believe your bullshit a pedophile
And then if you don't want to talk about it, I understand why that's okay
I'm still going to talk about it for you because you said it
That's a fact
Again, Dustin, I see what you're doing
Everybody sees what I'm doing. Victor. It's called exposing what you said
To your show
Which they've already heard it anyway for days
Dustin
Dustin are you prepared to engage in a civil discourse without all your
What you're doing here, which is clearly
manipulative
We are seven minutes. We are seven minutes into this
And I haven't even been able to do the introduction to those who are joining for the first time
So guests are here, but okay. We'll start
Well, you're my guest Dustin. So again, I see what you're doing. It's manipulative
You're saying my guests aren't here. So who are you then?
I'm one of your guests. How many did you invite tonight?
Well, Dustin, because of the fact that you're not allowing me to continue by
Saying hello to the audience and introducing those who are new here to what is going on
I cannot explain anything because you are already
It's like going to the movies and you don't see the opening credits. You're already like into it
That's not how this works. Dustin. I see what you're doing. It's manipulative
And if you want to continue doing it, I will allow you to expose yourself
Are you now ready to allow me to do the introduction so that the audience can know what it is that they're watching?
And I will address every single one of the concerns that you made
But everything in time Dustin when a meal is served the plate must be down first
You're putting the food on the table before the plate. I see it and so does the audience
Are you prepared to be mature and act in the light of Jesus as someone who is the leader of a congregation?
Dustin
Are you done virtue signaling? I'm ready. I've been ready. I just have a quick preamble taking you about 30 seconds and then we go
Will you ask me if I'm done virtue signaling?
Dustin, I see what you're doing
I'm not virtue signaling. I asked you a yes or no question
Are you done with your manipulation? Which is clear as a narcissist?
So that same answer I just gave you if you want me to repeat it. I can
It's a yes or no question
Dustin because I want to allow you to keep digging your hole if you want
I don't follow your rules as to what I say. I can say what I want victor
So I'm giving you the same answer for the third time. Do you take it or do you just want to complain about it?
And virtue signal some more
What answer is that it's a yes or no question
May the answer is are you done virtue signaling? I've been ready and after a quick preamble. I am ready to proceed into the debate
Do you want me to say it fourth time?
Yeah, because you have to see how you answer a yes or no question
So this is interesting. You're I don't do restrictions on my speech as you know victor
You don't get to decide my answer
You get to ask a question and I will decide how I answer victor
If that's okay with you just like if it's okay with you
I will help my friend's mom without your permission because I don't need your permission. He's my friend
my brother
He barely knows you
I see what you're doing. Okay, so let's proceed
Hi
This is the maverick artist victor hugo reporting modern art ganzo journalism for the modern art music movement
it is
where I am
On the border with russia turkey armenia and azerbaijan
A camel right away from kazakhstan the ukraine israel syria iran lebanon palestine yemen and the gaza strip
110 a.m.
Where my guest is
In the united states of israel. It is october 7th
5 10 p.m. Eastern standard time
I welcome all of you and the newcomers here to this what was supposed to be a debate
between dust well
Between the guests that I have here right now
And members of his congregation of the uncensored church a woman named jackie
Who reached out to me in an email with much concern claiming sos and i've shown that in the past
I'll just briefly show it now but not even give it any kind of
Credence because we're 11 minutes here and this person has been given
Several opportunities to show up after asking me to please moderate a debate between herself and my guest
So that she could quote unquote expose him
And this person has failed to show up and not given any excuse. So i'm not going to even
uh
Give any credibility
To the allegations and accusations that were made in those emails to me
From those people of the congregation now. I do want to allow my guest
To introduce himself to everyone if you can please state your name and a little bit about yourself, please
I want people to pay close attention to who speaks the most and who has to like
Talk a lot and waste time tonight
filibustering
Anyway, I am Dustin Nemo's Krieger which translates to stone hard anonymous warrior
And it's true. I am known in uh alternative medias for being formally in a non then doxxed and having
A long list of people I've exposed as liars pedophiles or jews
And I have a list of them at Nemo's news network dot com slash slash fake news
So, you know, I have a history of doing this. I'm I'm well known for this
Never been wrong about anyone so far. I always provide receipts for everything that I say
And I'm known for debates as well
But primarily I'm an alternative media journalist and reporter as your audience already knows me
So with that said, um, I do have a quick preamble if we can before the debate. I scripted something out
Well, actually
Say that you would show the audience who speaks the most
And I hope that people are recording this because so far you've been dominating. So let me uh interject here
Let's get to before your preamble because I don't have any preamble. This isn't about preambles. This is about
facts and truth
So we're going to get to the truth and then maybe later if you want to add the preamble
You can do that
But let's stick to the facts because not everybody here has time for like you say
Filibustering I do want to say do you have anything to say to the people of your congregation?
Who are making these allegations against you because that's what this whole debate was originally supposed to be about
So let's handle that first
My preamble covers that I'll just start if that's okay with you
Okay. Yeah fair enough
I generally do not agree to unmoderated debates as I debate experts and influencers under neutral conditions as disagreement always seems to dissolve into
Censorship or disparagement
But here's what we're going to do
I'm going to state my facts calmly and present evidence
Anyone can follow along at nemos news network.com slash victor
If you censor me unfairly you will forfeit this and we will require a neutral moderator moving forward
If you attempt to ride the mute button the entire time it will be rather obvious because I have little need
To say anything. It's very short my points
A few minutes about each point to rebut entire hours of your many hundreds of public lies
Generally a debate works with fair moderation very limited interrupting or muting no insults and equal time
Both signs
Nothing about halfway done already interrupted the thing
Yeah, yeah, because you that this preamble had to deal with the congregation
Was about to get there. Yeah, we interrupted
Okay, because again moderator victor
Yeah, but Dustin I see what you're doing
You're gonna do this the whole time and say I see what you're doing as you interrupt me every single time
I see what you're doing. You're interrupting. Can I please finish?
Thank you. Okay. This has to do with the church the congregation, right how much time you're gonna waste victor
We got a lot to cover tonight. Thank you. All right, buddy. You're not you're not ready
Remember who you're talking to I debate all the time. I'm used to this stuff and I'm used to Jewish behavior
So if if you have anything living up to that then
You're not gonna if you're as bad as them then I'll be surprised
But although you do have the eye line anyway
Generally a debate works with fair moderation very limited interrupting or muting no insults and equal time given to both sides
You can split yours with whoever decides to join you and help tonight
Out of respect for everyone's time and on that point
I'd hope we can keep our points short and sweet and show the receipts rather than ramble receiptless four hours
A format typical would be introduction time segments for points with short rebuttal periods
Followed at in for opposing sides if you disagree on any of these points
We'd all love to know which and why specifically if not we can begin as to the congregation
We've already been through this. We gave Jackie an hour and 10 minutes to
Prove that I owned a hot dog business one time get my age wrong and say that I had a pilot's license falsely
and also insinuate my children had no running water apparently behind my back and
Here's a fun story about Jackie when we were praying for her
Because I was an hour and 15 minutes late to get to the church to open it that night because my spinal injury
I couldn't move my head without literally doing this to hold it up
So she reminded me excuse me. She reminded me that night that I was uh late
So I struggled out of bed managed to get upright go to church and open things up
Because she didn't want to help me that night. She was supposedly spitting up blood
That's a quote in the er
Turns out while we're praying for her and my crippled butt is hauling my butt out of bed to to do so
She's spying on us to lie about us
On platforms like yours
Now that's the kind of person jackie is now have all the receipts. I've had a number of complaints
I don't want to disparage her. She's a troubled woman. She's admittedly
Multivaxed uh on disability
She promotes apparently aluminum
Silicate or aka zeolite products constantly for money on our church
That's jackie
So since she's not here tonight
We can skip most of that I guess since we've already gone through that and done an hour and 10 minutes of that trial
And I've come out on clean, you know completely clean and unscathed
So if you guys want to go through that again, she's welcome to join tonight. She didn't show
Let's do this
minimum virtually
Okay, so let's get into some facts here
I'm going to share
with the audience my screen and also
with my guest
Can I just
understand
because
When I met you
And every time that I've had you on the show you always introduce yourself as dust and nemos
You say that you've never lied in your entire life
What is your name when you are introducing yourself and in debates and everything?
Is it dust and nemos creager as you introduce yourself today?
Or is it dust and nemos and when you introduce yourself as dust and nemos?
Do you see that as lying to the public or do you see that as
Truth
No, it's both. I was born creager and I had my name legally changed to nemos to run for congress
Decided not to run haven't changed it back yet
Gotcha victor nice try bro. I don't lie. I didn't say by the way
You keep saying to people that I say I've never lied. That's a lie
You keep lying about what I said and misquoting me often
I say I never lie and I haven't since the day I became a christian
I do not lie
And I will not lie because my god hates and abhors liars and all liars will have their part in the lake of fire
I don't want to burn for eternity
So I also hate liars like my god my father in heaven and I will not lie
Okay, well then let's start with this an easy one for you and for the audience
This is something that you put out today
uh, I sent out a press release and
This is your response to the press release again
I just want what you think is a lie and so that the audience can judge your mindset here as a pastor of a congregation
So this is uh, dust and nemos response to everybody who received this
this
Press release he says oh
Son of Enos is going to be appearing from prison is he
Or is this like that time victor called himself jesus?
See the breakdown of victor section of my article with the big email chain
highlighted in it for easy to find second column email too, so
Uh, okay, we'll we'll we'll get to that because I don't know where you're getting the son of enos thing
But I'll I'll afford you the opportunity to share that with the audience because we really want to see what your mindset is
um, okay, I'll go
Uh, which is a lie that in your email. You said he's gonna be here. You said son of enos exposes nemos apparently
In so yeah, you'll you'll be able words
You're gonna have the share screen so you can pull it up and you can show it to the audience
But I want to get to where I think see what i'm replying to victor
I don't have no people show people your press release brother. Go ahead my friend, right?
Show people your press release scroll up
Dustin I I see what you're doing y'all. You don't want to I see I have it
Don't worry. I've yeah
Yeah, that's why I'm saying you're gonna share it
But let me get to the point here dustin because we're talking about your claiming that you never lie
And I'm going to expose you in the first of several lies that you made
So let me proceed. I did not interrupt you after you asked me not to interrupt you
So let's see if you are able to do the same show me the same courtesy
So which is a lie that can clearly be seen by the fact that the shows we did on tuesday were uploaded recorded and hosted by me
He says okay, so you're claiming
That the show that we did last time was
Uploaded by you and and all this other stuff. Okay. I like what I like what you're talking about. Please. I can't see the tiny text
Okay
Uh
I will do that for you and for the audience here
So dustin emos is implying because he had made it appear as if he was blocking me and he may not show up because I couldn't
Send him the link for this email, but he's here. So
To his credit. He's here, but he's claiming that the shows that he and I have done
In the recent past were done on his zoom, which I can clearly show that they weren't now
This is no big deal, but I just want to start out short
Slowly with the lies that he says because here is evidence of a lie
Here here he is claiming right here
With very few exceptions why because it's my zoom busted again liar
Some of you were witness to this event. He may have uploaded it. He says, uh, uh
Tuesday were uploaded recorded and hosted by me. Yes, they were and here's the evidence
So just I know you're kind of laughing and everything
But how do you explain this lie the first of your lies to ronald farnham?
It's very simple. You have to ask me permission to record in almost every video. We've done victor
and it's
People have witnessed it and you think you've got me here
You maybe have hosted one or two out of every show that we've ever done
victor
And all of those people that you invited
They were there at dust and nemos.com
Slash zoom and they will testify against you if they be honest
Against you in your own email chain
And I witnessed them I testified that I showed the names of the people in your email chain who were there in that zoom
And I asked them go ahead and say something because you were there you saw it
You often asked me for permission to record people know
They know this that you often asked me for permission to share
Now, why would you need to do that if it's your zoom victor because you didn't have a paid zoom victor
Because you had a 45 minute limit on your non paid zoom
So why are you trying to lie and imply that I did not normally host
when I did
I think you've caught yourself in a lie what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive
you
Okay, as you can see people I enlarge the screen and stopped sharing because I want you to see
for yourselves
Who dust and nemos is
When confronted with the truth
He goes into theatrics
So let me again share with you the truth that you insult me when I give you facts. I get it
Again now with the projection, okay, you call me you say I go into theatrics
That's a that's a appeal to ridicule you didn't you did not rebut what I said
Which is a fact and I also gave witnesses against you from our group sessions
Most of which were on my platform because it was my idea anyway and you joined
So why are you now insinuating that I am in theatrics by stating facts and you were rebutting with
smears
And appeal to ridicule which is a logical fallacy for those who were losing the debate
Make fun of it. Maybe they'll believe you victor
I see what you're doing. Yes. This is who I am folks
This is exactly who the pastor of uncensored dot church is
I wreck them in debates and I stand on truth all glory to Yahweh
Okay, if you're
Done, I will show the audience that I sent this email like I said to both you and to
Ronald Farnham and right there at the bottom you could see
Okay, great looking forward to it. I will send you both the live stream link for you to join me at 9 p.m
To bellisi time 9 23 25. This was in reference to the date that you put out
I'm not denying that in the past there were times
That we did it on your zoom
But you didn't put it out victor
I said weeks
Tuesdays multiple
You're now trying to imply that I lied about last week last week you're hosted. You're a liar
I'm gonna waste the audience's time. Yeah, I bet this is if this is what you want to do
Okay, read it victor read my words victor liar
I'll concede that to you dustin. Okay, if you want that I'll you lie. Thank you
Okay, I'll concede that one to you. I don't want to waste the audience's time. I do want the audience to see
What is happening here and make sure you ask yourself who is telling the truth? Okay, we get
Because you know you talk a lot and I don't get any time
It's interesting that you say that duster because so far you've been dominating the conversation
But I will talk since the debate began officially
Okay
So here we go. This is what uh, dustin sends out
And this is the the so-called man who lives in the light of jesus
He puts this out
To myself and to eric who was on the show yesterday boss shaney and who's in the uh comment section in the chats
He says victor
Tomorrow actually, why don't you read it dustin this will be better for you to read it
This is on your own words victor tomorrow your well today your career ends
It won't be the same after all the lies you've told get exposed on your own platform in a debate setting
Either you have to mute and censor obviously or I will wreck you and every lie you've told you chose to for some reason
Take on the best debater of our era all glory to yaway in a debate. Good format choice
That's the demox the archivist
when you say
With such hubris that you're the best debater of era and then you say all glory to yaway
is your god is your god one that uh, uh
Promotes and glorifies hubris ego and pride is debating the Pharisees constantly
He actually mocked them rebuked them baited them ignored them and called them out as demons to in everyone's plain sight
You may worship some scrawny weak jesus, but yashua is a warrior and he would have whipped you out of the temple for being such a filthy liar
I am the best debater of our era objectively. So I remain and our faith not serene church doctrine remains undefeated
It's the only christian faith on earth that remains undefeated
All glory to yaway. I am no one
But this is important information it will change you
So dustin you didn't answer the question
I think I did which part did I miss?
the one where the yaway that you
say all glory to
promotes ego pride and hubris
I just said I am no one all glory to you. Did you miss that part?
I'll repeat it again. I am no one a worm in his garden a sinner collecting dirt on bad guys
All glory to yaway
Who redeems and has saved me through the sacrifice of his only son yashua?
And that is why I started uncensored on church
I am genuine victor
All glory to my father
But I will win victory after victory in his name and I will cut off the heads of giants like david
And he loved david a man after his own heart a warrior
Again uh
Again should I call you well?
It's a yes or no answer. Does the yaway they
ask
all glory to
Does he promote
ego pride and hubris like you're showing right now
Or did I demonstrate ego pride or hubris when I gave all glory to my father and went forth to have victory in his name?
like christ
So what you're saying to the audience right now is that you you lack such humility
That you truly believe that you are the best debater of our era
Find me one who's better. I mean I can find no one who'll even debate me anymore. I'm undefeated across science theology history conspiracy
Everything that find I debate as you saw phd science professors philosophy of science
I wrecked them
On evolution climate change flood all this stuff real biblical science versus the fake stuff
You know that you should never have done this victor you ended your own career. I don't even know why frankly
I think you were just covering up the whole son of enos thing and you're trying to hide it
And now you're you're trying to somehow lash out at others who caught you
I see what you're doing dustin. I asked you a question. It's a yes or no answer
I'll ask it again so that the audience can continue to see again
Revealing yourself. I love this answer. I like to say this answer
all
Let me speak please
Again for the third time now the question being asked is a yes or no answer question
the
God that you worship when you say all glory be to Yahweh
Does he promote and encourage?
the sort of hubris
Pride and ego that you display when you openly claim that you are the best debater of our era
I don't need you to then respond with the question asking me a question
That is what the audience is seeing when I said my father and have an all glory to him
How is that showing pride or hubris?
You're insinuating things about me just like when you called me a pedophile with no evidence
You can call me proud you can call me arrogant, but I am no one
I am nothing and I give all glory to my father
I'll still wreck you in a debate because his truth stands and yours doesn't because you're a liar
I'll ask it to you for the fourth time because I don't know what pedophiles have to do with uh the question of
You like to lie about people you like to call them proud. You like to call them pedophile. You like to call them arrogant
You like to say I know what you're doing and imply something about them. I know what I'm doing too. I'm exposing your lies
This one included. I'm not proud. I'm not arrogant
I am the son of a crack whore who barely made it out of adolescence
My brother and sister mother and aunt are on the streets homeless
I don't even know if they've been disappeared like a lot of the homeless right now
Okay, like I am nothing. I'm no one. I'm the most sinful man alive. I praise Yahweh and Yahshua that he
Brought me out of that and out of Babylon. I am nothing and no one
But
You call me arrogant
Now is it factually objective that I can make a claim to be the best debater when I remain undefeated
With phd's rabbis pastors and experts scientists. Yeah, I think that's a fair claim
I give all glory to Yahweh. So he glorifies me
He gives me victories
Isaiah 54 17 says I shall refute every tongue that accuses me including yours
You're not ready Victor you feel it yet
You
Dustin I find it curious that one minute you are crying and the next minute you're smiling
Interesting. I see what you're doing. I showed of the
Yeah, it's interesting the god that you pray to I
Sincerely urge the congregation to make sure I can't Jesus that you refer to as lucifer on one of our last shows
You're interrupting me
Just so the audience has realized
Dustin claims that he does not want to be interrupted
And he wants you to take notice of who speaks more for those of you who have been recording this
Please note who has been speaking more and who has been interrupting
I will ask for the final time and this will be indicative of your character
When you openly claim with tears
in your eyes
That you are the best debater of our era and you give praise to
Yahweh
You may not see that as hubris and you're saying that the god that you worship does not see
Your words as hubris pride and ego
Again a yes and no question
Is that the god you worship and is that the way you encourage other people to live
their lives
So how can it be two questions if it's yes or no? I'm not going to follow you. Yes or no rules victor
How's that worship the god worship is Yahweh the father of yashua the god of abraham and moses adam and eve
Not your crackhead jesus that you refer to as lucifer. Where am I lying victor?
Okay, you might disagree with me. You might try to find another debater to say oh, okay
You can have your opinion about who the best is. I think it's me
I glorify the father not myself
Okay, let's move on then. Let's move on as far as uh debates go
You did a debate. When is my turn victor?
Well, you haven't really you've you've had like two you've had two or three sessions now
Let's move on. You've been sharing the whole time. When do I get to share?
You've had your moderators
You had your turn in the sense that you've been uh
Dominating this conversation the whole time. When do I get to ask questions?
Well, let's get a straight answer from you first
Can you please show you claim that you've actually had a communication?
with
Diane regarding your friend
Yeah, what's your friend's name?
Which friend are you talking about son of enos?
What's his real name?
Kenneth pollen
Everybody knows now that you doxed his mother without a permission and pissed her off
with your press releases
My turn to share victor. Okay, you want yeah, but let's mission you want to give me permission so I can share the answer
Yeah, but you're gonna share you're gonna show us but first I want to show the audience the question
So socrates says victor dustin says he has 21 emails with diane
This would be very easy to collaborate with diane and ask her if she has been communicating
with dustin
He has not produced those emails, which is very suspect
All that would take is her response to the simple question
Sorry to bother you diane, but dustin emails has stated. He has emailed you 21 times. Is this true?
If dustin cannot produce the emails and she says no
Case is closed
As those facts blow it all up
Also, since dustin was very high up operations trust q could he actually be cia as q is obvious
Cia massage
Just bringing up questions in this whole affair. I'm still shocked, but I know we are living in a movie
So can you produce? I will share the screen now because I want to make sure that you have the ability to produce
the evidence of your interaction with diane and I'm not talking about
Okay, but let me let me show you I actually contacted diane a while
If you're done with your point, let me know
Yeah, yeah
So I said hi diane people are asking me to ask you for clarification on dustin krueger
Public claim that he has emailed you and you have received and responded to him 21 times
Since your son was first incarcerated
Is this true or is dustin krueger trying to profit off of your plight publicly?
These people are all now publicly claiming to be your best friends and you are reaching out to me for verification from you
Welcome to the circus. These people are creating around your son's situation for fame and profit
Nip the lies in the butt now before they get out of hand and start making t-shirts saying
I'm son of enos's best friend for christmas
Lol, they're all your best friends now
You have to take this with a sense of humor diane. Otherwise you'll go crazy
So I will show you her response, but I will uh, if you can ask me to share screen
I will uh enable your share screen so you can show us just it says I'm not even allowed to ask
Sharing is not turned on you'll have to activate it
All right, let me do that now. Let me uh activate it. Let me see how I can
Oh, okay
This is where it gets fun guys. I hope you guys haven't fall asleep yet. Sorry about the weight
All right, so uh, let's see host tools
Share screen boom. All right
This is from Nemo's news network dot com slash victor it's titled victor hugo vodka ginger
It got weird fast. It's broken down into
Many sections. We're going to go down to a specific one here
And then we're going to cover the rest of me anyway called questions for victor
Now
The the evidence you're supposed to be providing are the 20 emails. Are you going to be showing?
You're done. Are you done? I know what I'm supposed to provide. Are you done?
Yeah, but are you I turn now?
Perfect. Thank you. Are you done? Are you going? Are you done?
See what you're doing, Dustin? Are you done, man?
Are you gonna stop interrupting? Are you gonna just keep going?
My turn. I'm sharing you see the screen
Yeah, but the thing that you're supposed to
I'm gonna stop
Yeah, okay do that. You're supposed to be sharing the emails just like I did. I showed you emails
So let's see
You looking at them smartass
I can't talk apparently but you go ahead and I'll just show you the picture right here
At least 21 as I said
As early as august
Can you open them? Oh, and here's son of enos. Oh, what did he say about me? I love you brother
And you act like he doesn't know who I am. How did you meet him by the way victor? Was it through me?
No, but I'm gonna let you show the emails
Now, how did you get in victor? No, no, no, don't don't distract. We're on your emails here the emails
Now it's my turn to ask questions victor. You've asked me a number of questions
I want to ask you at least three before you go back
Let me ask the let me ask the chat section
Do you all feel that what he's showing you right now is substantial?
Compared to the emails that I don't have to dox my private emails with this woman who had a gag order until recently
The way that you did which upset this elderly lady and then you bullied her into silence on how you doxed her against the gag order
Victor with your irresponsible press releases with your name in her direct quoted email and full name all over it
Everybody knows their name because of you victor. It was son of enos now
It's tenneth paul and his mom an elderly woman who's receiving who knows how much flak because of you
No, I'm gonna respect her privacy unlike you victor
Okay, all right, then let me share the screen then and I'll
Show you uh, are we not on my turn yet victor?
Well, you just asked me a question
I answered your question now. It's my turn to ask questions. Isn't it victor?
No, don't be afraid. Don't don't be afraid. I mean, what are you afraid of?
Do I ever get a turn? Do I are you afraid of questions victor? You've asked you've asked quite a few
It's not fair
Victor
No, I just I just want to show the audience because it's my turn. Isn't it victor? So wait, you're currently just told me earlier
Wait your turn. Take a note of it. I just did how about stop saying I just want it's not your turn wait your turn
It's my turn victor
You don't get to because you don't get just get what you just want just because you interrupt on other people's turns
I will call you out every time you try to interrupt every time you try to fill a buster
Now let's get to my questions victor
First of all, how did you meet?
Can it
Can you see this
Email that I received October 6th
2025 you're not going to allow me to ask questions or not victor
Because this is a one-sided interrogation and acquisition and I'm not allowed to ask questions. This is unfair
It is unmoderated exactly what I predicted and you are now
Filibustering and and avoiding questions victor. Are you going to allow me a fair turn?
You've asked me at least two or three questions now
I think it's my turn to get at least two or three questions
I
You said you wanted to be fair show them how it's done right like gentlemen
Can you read this email from diane poline? She's not my screen
I see my screen being shared victor because you interrupt it. So why are you why you mean?
Can I see any I'm seeing my screen because it's my turn victor
In the audience what that means victor just can I ask the feeling my turn?
And sharing over my share victor
You sound your voice supposed to have a moderator
Your voice is cracking dusted
No, it isn't I'm very firm. I'm very calm. I think that you're being unfair
I think it's irresponsible to say that you want to have a gentlemanly debate
And unmoderated and that you will be fair and then to say that you're only going to ask questions on one side
I think that's nonsense
Objective I have an email here from diane poline
It reads your turn and then you can use your email because I answered your questions and now it's my turn
You don't want the audience to see she says saying that you don't want me to I see that you don't want to answer questions victor
You you can't even answer how you met him because it's through me isn't it victor
Because you're a liar and you're caught and you will not answer any questions victor now
I've answered your questions fairly you've interrogated me and we keep catching you in lies even with your own questions
Because you got nothing victor
Now I have questions that you will not be able to answer and it's going to expose you immediately
Are you ready? It's my turn. Please allow my spring to share again. Thank you
Can the audience see this email from diane poline you guys are just you're gonna let him get away with this or what?
I'm not going to participate if you're gonna just fill the buster not allow me to continue like to participate fairly
It's my so you're why can't you wait until your turn victor?
I
I'm shocked that you are dot you're denying that she says he has only sent me what I forwarded to you and I have never replied
So let me show the audience
No, she's referred to my emails victor
She said she never replied. So now you're calling her uh a liar
Interesting show that she has victor and in fact there are many many emails here between myself and her showing that
Interesting. It's my turn. I just showed you the 21 plus emails that I claimed that you said I lied about
You're a lie. Again. I just showed them to you. You're a liar victor. You're a liar. I shared them with you victor. You're a liar
Are you done?
Or am I gonna ask and you will not allow me to ask you questions
Mute him. So now he's meeting me guys. Let me know when you're ready for a fair neutral
Moderate
Look at this. Interesting. Okay. So here we go. This is from dustin
This is interesting that he's leaving now
so
We see the true colors of who dustin is
This is uh email that stated
October 5th 2025
Dustin we're all surprised it took you this long to figure it out
victor is a character assassin
This is from Sean turnbull of sgt report. This was
What I was going to show
Dustin because he didn't show any of the emails
And now he's decided to leave because he was exposed
Diane stating that no
She has not received emails from dustin
Except for the ones that were forwarded to me and this is the one that was forwarded to me
Which is the shocking ones that I promised you all
So here's the evidence people how these people are all conspiring together
And in fighting within the alt news media now realize
Dustin nemos is welcome to come back and answer to this
But he's shown his two colors
So
Dustin we are all surprised it took you this long to figure it out says Sean turnbull of sgt report
Victor hugo is a character assassin
Glad you finally got there
All he does is bear false witness and lie about me about fetzer about peters about adams about hope
And now about you
By the way, those various stabbing videos
I had never seen them in my life until he showed them on his stupid little show
He is pure evil writes
Sean turnbull of sgt2 report to dustin nemos. Mind you. This is all sent
to diane pauline
This was sent october 5th
2025 in
You saw the the message that she sent when I asked her if dustin nemos
Had ever emailed her and she said yes, and I'm I forwarded you the emails that he sent me
These are the emails
These are the emails that she's getting she's she's witnessed to the infighting which you are now to
between sgt report and dustin nemos. So dustin nemos answers
Here it is october 5th 2025
sgt
You are a character assassin
I remember your comment. It's attached below
You called me horrible vulgarities because I told the truth you found uncomfortable
There must be a lot of these
There must be a lot of those days for a man who fought against vaccines
So long to be pushing vax daddy king jew trojan trump hopium
So late in the game
Fetzer is a snake and apparently hiding san jihub truths nothing there has changed
I forgive you shawn, but you changed
Given your son
How could you how could you stand with and defend the jews and trojan trump?
stew peters
I'm the one who exposed him
Victor hugo is a tiny channel
I broke stew peters for all to see and exposed him as the crypto jew scammer he is
Be careful who you trust has never been more important
I still ride on solo if necessary
Standing on truth as always. I go anywhere. They will let me speak. It's not an endorsement
so
dustin nemos is smacking down
shawn turnbull who shows up on
diane's
email
They they sent her an email
I'll show you who's in this email. It's pretty shocking
This woman's going through some stuff
And these people are in fighting on her email
And of course when I asked her if she's received any emails from dustin nemos
She's like, yeah, I'm forwarding him to you and this is what she forwards me
That's why dustin nemos didn't show you the email that he sent her because he's not
Sending her emails. He hasn't been corresponding with her the first time he corresponds with her
He's in fighting with shawn turnbull of sgt report who uh, I'll show you
This gets even weirder people. It's funny that he says it's weird
So shawn turnbull responds
Okay, gotcha. Good luck to you the quote holder of all truth on earth dustin
Yet too dumb to realize
Victor was playing you all along
So it's funny because uh shawn turnbull thought he was going to have an ally in dustin nemos and as it turns out
dustin nemos smacked him down
And it's more back and forth between dustin nemos and
shawn turnbull and again people when I say I bring receipts as emails
I don't show you whatever that was that dustin nemos showed you which none of you could actually read
And then realize what he told you lying to you that it he didn't want to dox
Diane Pauline as if it's not possible
This is the same man who showed you emails prior where he was able to
Uh black out certain things and conveniently
Move things around in an email
But somehow he's now claiming that he doesn't have the ability to just scratch out
her email address
Again people deception misinformation and for someone who claims to be all glory to god
Interesting how the moment that he was confronted with truth
From an email that I presented to you from diane
The mother of kenneth pauline stating that no she never received
21 emails that what she received was the email that she is forwarding to me
Which is what you are seeing now an email we're in shockingly
dustin nemos and shawn turnbull of sg2 report are fighting
In diane's email thread and now you are all witness to this
So dustin we're all surprised it took you this long to figure it out. Yes
And so here it is the full email here
Uh stu peters be careful
So i'll show you more of how this
infighting between these so-called truth tellers
These so-called christians who are actually exposing themselves as satanic christians
I wanted you all to see for yourselves
Who dustin
Is dustin creger?
For a man who claims to be the best debater
He ends up running off
And judge for yourself who was talking the most
He didn't answer any questions. He didn't provide any evidence to you
And he's still welcome here. He can still come on
I'm gonna go through this because I promised you receipts and you're gonna get them
So here we go. Here's shawn turnbull of sg2 reports response
mind you this is
The email that diane sent me when I asked her if if dustin has emailed her and she's like, yeah
I'm forwarding it to you. This is it
Nowhere in this does it show any concern for her son or for her plight. This is
These guys are coming into diane pauline's house and they're fighting in her living room
She doesn't even know who these people are
so
shawn answers
Dustin, okay. Gotcha. Good luck to you the holder of truth on earth dustin yet too dumb to realize
Victor was playing you all along and dustin responds
Victor has no surprises for me
I never trusted him lol
I'm a reporter
I'll go on anyone's platform who has the courage to host me because I believe every audience deserves the truth
It's the same thing. I told you many times years ago. Hell. I've even gone on cbs vice, etc
You know this
At least he had the balls to host dustin emos
You no longer do
Enjoy those hopium shekels as the walls close in your smart city. I mean freedom city. Trump calls them
So this was and you know, I gotta admit I'm
In agreement with the way that dustin emos is handling
shawn turnbull because shawn turnbull has really shown his colors
But at least dustin emos is able to show his face
Whereas shawn turnbull who is a total coward doesn't even show his face
and the nice thing about
Dustin emos showing his face was you were able to see
The narcissistic psychopathy of a man who on the one hand cries tears
When claiming to praise the almighty
Yahweh that he worships which promotes pride ego and hubris and lies
And then on the other hand, he has a smile that my god
If serial killers had smiles that would be one
so
SGT report responds
October 5th, 2025
Mind you, this is in response to my email asking diane to provide me evidence of any emails that dustin emos sent her
And this is what she sent me
Of course, dustin emos didn't show you this
Because he claimed he would be doxing
Diane Pauline
Now those of you out there realize here's her name
Diane Pauline
She's not being doxed
She gave me permission to share these
So it's interesting i'm going to show you more emails from Diane Pauline
Which is exactly why he scurried away like a rat on a sinking ship
And any of you that are still in the comments section that are giving glory to the god that dustin emos
Claims to worship with tears crocodile tears in his eyes realize
You are part
of this
satanic christian congregation that he's in
That's so filled with liars that the people who reached out to me with an sos
Claiming that they had all sorts of information about dustin emos as controlled opposition
Also showed their true colors as cowards when given an opportunity to present that evidence to the world
They did exactly what dustin emos did
He didn't have to run away so big deal i muted him for a second so that he could see
Diane Pauline's emails that he sent
So that you could see
But as you can see
He didn't want to have you see his expression on his face as a matter of fact
I have another surprise for you coming up because
I was going to show him the debate that he claimed to have won with curtis griffin
So
sq2 report says I don't have the balls to host your wacky theories
That's a hoot dustin
I just drew the line at
Trump is the antichrist and charlie kirk is a liver and well
Both of which you have espoused
I have a feeling that when shone turnbull of sgt report
Wrote charlie kirk is a liver and well
I don't think that shone turnbull actually thinks that charlie kirk is liver
I think what he is is lazy and sloppy and
Didn't spell check and so I think he thinks that
He doesn't agree with dustin emos's conclusion, which I agree with by the way
That charlie kirk is alive and well on uh goat island
So
He says he also believed victor's explicit lie that I threatened you stu peters and jim fetzer with those sick
Demented asinine
Simulated stabbing videos, which I had never in all caps
seen before in my life
But which victor the cowardly
liar in all caps said
I was responsible for posting on my site the phaser.com
A total lie
And you believed him without checking
That's great journalism dustin. Do you see the hypocrisy?
The psychopathy
The narcissism the hubris of these people
So he's calling dustin out
Sarcastically as that's great journalism. Meanwhile
Here's dustin's response, which is brilliant again
These guys are eating each other alive in this alt news media
Dustin responds to shorn from sgt cc'd by the way to our friend the jew vp
And hope girl and james fetzer who's also involved in this
So you see how dustin emos has exposed himself
because he's in collusion with
James fetzer hope girl
vp and sgt report which have all within the past week
attacked me
So do you see how this is all a
planned attack by all these liars
They've just been exposed
By themselves because when I received that email which was very astute
From my guest voltaire
Who said ask
Diane to provide you with evidence or ask her simply if dustin ever
Emailed her and when I did she says yes, I'm forwarding it to you and this is what dustin emailed her
Which again as you saw before he
Cowardly ran away the best debater of our era ran away when presented with evidence because that's the thing that
Narcissists like dustin emos cannot handle
When presented with truth a narcissist crumbles and runs away
So here we go, here's dustin's response
To shorn turnbull of sgt t report calling him
Out as it's not a great journalist. He says bro
You share the guy who made them
That was the whole point
He showed it on your website in real time
You can't handle a number of true things. I say here's a short list
Patriots are not in control
None of you will debate me
The king of qanon on this topic
two
Trump is a crypto Jew
Trojan Trump
Vax daddy king jiu
And is the son of perdition who brought us the mark of the beast and coming soon sudden destruction
After he is now promising
Peace and safety as the euphrates river dries up and all the end times prophecies are screaming red alert
You are an idle watchman to ignore this and not warn your flock
Wow, it's amazing how these guys are calling each other out and
I'll tell you dustin has a good
Point on this because shorn turnbull is worse than dustin
In my opinion
Because like I said at least dustin shows his face
Sean turnbull is a coward and god hates cowards
But he's also a liar
So far i'm with every point that dustin makes and i'm going to even go further to show you all what
He was talking about here
because um
Sean turnbull lies claims to be a good
Reporter a journalist and he claims that he never knew anything about
The link that he was sharing and yet here he is sharing all sorts of
Untruths on his the phaser which he admitted was his channel
All this as well claiming that i am a masad agent and that i'm the one who got kenneth polin arrested without any evidence
And yet let's go and see the video
That you can find this is what uh
dustin emos called him out on
And good for you dustin. I wish you were still here because you know what?
Uh, the longer you stayed the more people would realize who you really are
But I do believe that by you running away as a coward you've proven yourself
Although i pretty much i'm sure that you're probably doing a uh special report on your channel
Claiming that I did not give you fair time when anybody who does uh a playback of this
We'll see that he was manipulating the time gas lighting
He wasn't showing any evidence. He was just
Uh trying to lie to you all and i'm not going to put up with that
so I I don't
uh
Enable narcissists
to uh
Gaslight my audience. I have too much respect for you now
If his audience wants to believe in his lies, that's up to him. I feel uh, I will pray
For his audience not to the god he prays to because that god is obviously pretty wicked
I don't know what god would be
Uh encouraging such hubris
Such ego such lies
So i'm gonna show you here because I want to make sure that you
See what uh show on turnbull the lies that this guy has
Because he's not understanding that I didn't say he played the video but he's
Enabling the um account that shows the stabbing
And other things the incitement to violence and hatred on his channel again. How could this guy claim to be a christian?
So let me see if it is
Here maybe it's this one
I just want to uh show you the evidence people so
You know the evidence doesn't come fast and furious you have to be patient
And again that shows a lack of patience on dust and nemosis side, which by the way
He still has the thread and he can come in anytime
So don't think that just because he's gone that he can't be man enough to come back and defend himself
I'm here
giving you guys evidence, but not only am I giving you guys evidence against uh dust and nemos now
Thanks to the email that dust and nemos sent to diane and my question to diane
Did dust and nemos email you it just turns out that now all of us see that there is tremendous infighting
within
The so-called truth teller community
And that dust and nemos is verbally bitch slapping
show on turnbull of sgt report for his lies
So here we go. I think this may be okay. Here we go people and I'll bring this back into context with the uh
email here
so
This is sgt report. He says
You also believe victor's explicit lie that I threatened you stu peters and jim fetzer with those sick
demented
Asinine
simulated stabbing videos
Which I had never seen before in my life
But which victor the cowardly liar said I was responsible for posting on my site
admission of guilt the phaser.com
A total lie and you believed him without checking that's great journalism dustin to which dust and nemos
Replies bro
You share the guy who made them that was the whole point. He showed it on your website in real time
You can't handle a number of true things. Yeah, so let's
Show it again for those who are just joining in for the first time
We are not only exposing dust and nemos
But we're also exposing in real time. You can go check it out right now
Go to the phaser.com page 10 if you don't believe me. It's there go to
His lie that i'm a cia intel asset covet lockdown cuck in a mask
He just admitted that this is his channel and that he never did the research
He never bothered to actually click on the channel right here, which i'm going to do in real time
So that he could see what he is promoting. He's promoting this
Because look this is on his channel and you go here again. This is the phaser.com
I'm showing you in real time. This is october
7th in the jusa
october 8th on the border with russia you go to you just click on this
I'm not even going to say the name of it because i'm not promoting it
see as opposed to
Sean turnbull of sgt report who's promoting this channel because there's a link to it
You won't find a link to that on my channel
But look look what happens when you go here
And he says it's a lie. So what you're about to see is what shone turnbull of sgt report told diane on her channel
Is a lie
It's incredible how these people are all backstabbing each other. So here we are we end up at this channel right here
Now if you go
Down it has titles like take it in the ass last night. So this is shone turnbull mr. SGT report
Calling duster nemos out for his lack of journalism. Meanwhile. He has no idea where he's sending people
So here we go
It's a channel that basically devotes its entire time to
Slanderingly which is fine. I'm not suing rumble or bit shoot over it
Actually, I'm kind of glad that this guy's giving me free publicity
And shone and all these other people who are talking about me are also giving me free publicity
So here's the video that uh shone turnbull claims that he has no idea about
It's right there on the channel that you saw me in real time click over
I'm going to show you again in real time people
Because this is the kind of psychopathy that people are trusting in the alt news media
These are the people who want you to believe what they say and i'm calling them out
And you know what i'm giving credit to dust animos too. I'm not a scoundrel. He's absolutely right in calling
Uh, uh shone turnbull of SGT report out
He's an m m and he's a cow. So we'll take
He's a liar
Let me guarantee in a team of us today
So we'll skip the ad we'll lower the uh volume from here
You have to vote
And we will see the video
that
SGT report claims he has no idea
Uh
Is on the channel that he's promoting. He's promoting this
This is as dustin pointed out by definition
There's a link on your channel. You're giving this person credence as a credible source of news and information on your channel
and yes
He is promoting incitement to violence if anybody's watching this and they were disgusted
by the uh hubris the ego the pride the narcissism
Of dust animos and they are psychopaths and they're like, you know what?
I went to SGT reports channel and I was inspired after clicking on the link that shone turnbull of SGT report
has on his link as a as a reputable
Source as a reputable link. You don't link things to your channel the phaser
shone
And then claim innocence when this is what people that go to your channel see
You took them here shone
So I have to agree with dust animos and I wish he would have stayed because I wanted to get his opinion on this
And other things
But you see now this is a classic case for those I have a psychology degree
And I know how to deal with narcissists
The moment that you expose the narcissist. That's why every time I was telling him that I could see
what he was doing
And rather than arguing with him I sat back and I let him expose himself
Rewind this video and you'll see
He wanted me to
Be agitated. That's why he continued with what he was doing and what he was saying because he thought I was going to fall into that trap
Of a shouting match, which I made the mistake of engaging with James Fester. Who's also a narcissist
And let me remind you who's on that email thread
that Diane Pauline
Kenneth Pauline's mother
Son of Enos sent me when I asked her has Dustin Nemos sent you any emails? Yes, I will forward it to you
What Dustin Nemos showed you all
Was an insult to your intelligence people
that was not
emails and then heard him claim that it was because again in his
Good nature. It is and what a what a good guy he is. He did not want to dox
uh
Diane Pauline
So look again, I'm gonna go back people. This is in real time. Okay. I can't make this stuff
You can see it yourself. Do it yourself here. Look, I'll give you the link
All right, you go back
From this channel and where does it lead you to?
It leads you to
the phaser
Sean Turnbull caught in a lie
Thanks to Dustin Nemos and son of Enos because here
We're back to the email
Where SGT report states you also believed victor's explicit lie that I threatened you stu peters and jim fetzer
with those sick demented asinine
simulated
Stab
My life
I want to show your chats because I want the people to see what you all are saying because I want your voice to be heard
Curtis I'd like to bring you on if you can come on
because I was about to show the
Video where Dustin Nemos claims that he broke you
and
Clearly people saw how
Distraught Dustin Nemos was because he was not bringing receipts and he was called out
So Curtis if you can please I gave you the link come on the show. Let's show people
That it's okay to forgive
So welcome Curtis Griffin
I will continue with this. I can't see you Curtis and I can't hear you
If you can let me introduce you to the audience. I'll stop sharing here for a moment. Holy cow
Were you surprised that uh, Dustin Nemos
Fled like a rat off a sinking ship before I could show you
Before I can introduce you with the debate
Well, yeah, I was a little disappointed. I wanted to see that but
Is what it is man. How are you?
Good good. It's nice to see you again. It's uh, a lot of people may be shocked about this
but there's a thing called forgiveness and apology is not a weakness and I apologized to uh,
Curtis Griffin because he along with others like Eric Boschini
Were warning me about Dustin Nemos and sometimes you have to learn the hard way and uh, yeah
It's a bit embarrassing, but that's okay. I don't mind being embarrassed. It's called life. You just get up and you
Wipe yourself off. So thank you Curtis for
Coming on the show so far
What did you see and do you think I could have kept him on the show long enough for you to come on?
well possibly but again
Very similar to my debate with him. He spent most of the time talking and was constantly playing victim that he couldn't speak
and
He also at the start of your call with him today was talking about those poor victims of child sex trafficking
and
If anyone watching this now would like to go back and rewatch that debate after this
I strongly encourage it
Because I got Dustin to say that anyone who's sold into child sex trafficking
From a country that's not christian
Deserves it because their parents worshiped the wrong god
Well
No, I have to
You don't have to go and find it people because it's right here and I'm going to share it with you right now
Because what was going to happen and it never did because Dustin Nemos the coward at this point
It's safe to say
The narcissist coward and that's what narcissists do by the way
We've exposed him as a narcissist
Which is what most of the people that are preachers and stuff and most of the people that are in this
So-called truth teller arena are so I'm going to share the screen and we are going to show
this
intense moment which was really uh indicative
Of who uh, Dustin Nemos is and uh, yeah, let's check it out. Can you see the screen there, Curtis?
Can you see the screen?
Oh, you're muted Curtis
Yeah, I can see I just was worried you'd have sound from my headphones being picked up
Uh, okay. All right. Well, here we go audience if you're joining for the first time
This is another example of Dustin Nemos and his um manipulation
So then how do you justify all the people who have horrible things happen to them who are too young to choose
What about all the children being trafficked through the Epstein island and the other child trafficking raids?
They're not holding issues in for themselves
I've been fighting for those children since 2017, but they you might be playing from your way isn't their parents did not follow the law
Ah, so he's punishing them for something their parents did in what way is that just
In what way is it just to let a child be brutally raped and killed?
Because their parents did something you didn't approve of
It if you ran into me an intersection and I tortured your child to death. Would that be justice?
Hmm
Does
Very good question. Can you hear me now?
Yeah, yeah, we can see it
So, you know
In the bible god punishes those who do not follow his rules do not love him to the third and fourth generation
I can show you that with your murder scar factor with epigenetics, which is a recent science
We can show that actually in the genetics now we can prove god doesn't indeed punish the parent the child for the parents sense
Um
Which actually answers the age old question nurture versus nature. It's both
There is an expression based on the the nurture of the nature
So we have epigenetics, which is god's punishments or blessings based on your obedience to his rules
So it absolutely makes sense that even the children would not be spared of those who cast aside his rules because
They're
The same thing is the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. The old saying
It's the same thing there if they turn and repent then they are grafted into his house
But most mankind will never get there
So when the punishment for david's affair with bath shiva
Is that his wives are raped in public like and his child is tortured to death over seven days
But he's outright told his sin is forgiven
That's justice. He's been forgiven, but his son isn't for some reason
He lost something that's harder than his own life to lose that's worse than dying yourself
Okay, so I'm dying
Just to emotionally torture him that was worth torturing a baby to death for seven days
God's punishments are based on the sin which is based in the blood
I can't believe you're actually willing to get to that as an answer
This shows the level of psychopathy
That uh, dust anemos has what's interesting is during that debate
I was also taken aback by that answer and uh, I tried to be impartial
which
I'll ask curtis later if that's why one of the reasons why he was upset at me
The thing is I had a weekly show with uh, dustin and so you know
Anyway, this is the moment
That is really reflective of the manipulation that dustin has
In this moment. He claims victory
During that debate which I as the moderator
That was no victory. I can assure you if you go on dust anemos's channel right now, he'll be claiming victory
Over whatever this was but check this out
Would you guys be willing to uh come back and do another debate?
Honestly victor, I'm not the thing with isaas 7 broke me claiming that the fucking kings named in the passage
Aren't the ones being referenced in the prophecy in the same passage
Like if that's where you're at, there's no point talking to you. Like he said it was for the audience. This is silly
Like he said I broke him
Wow
That is uh very
telling curtis
Can when he can I cover a couple things there because you asked about uh,
My opinion of you moderating the debate as well as that passage we were talking about in isaas 7
Because isaas 7 is quoted as the uh the prophecy for the virgin birth of christ
However, when you go read it first off it says the child's name is going to be a manual
Show me any time in the new testament jesus has ever referred to as a manual. He isn't
Second off it's like I said it's specifically talking about a war with two neighboring kingdoms and saying that this child from this woman
Won't be eating solids before we're delivered from these kings. It's immediate
Beyond that the translation saying virgin is actually from the septuogen the helenica greek translation of the original hebrew
Where they transliterated the hebrew word for young woman to virgin
But the hebrew word is just young woman. It does not specify that she's a virgin at all
If you go to the hebrew version of the old testament, there is no prophecy of a virgin birth
anywhere
period
so
When someone is going to lie straight to your it would be like if you pointed at a car and someone was emphatically telling you
It's a seagull. There's no point having that conversation
That's what you meant when you said blind to my face. Like yeah, this is pointless
Um, yeah, I could have a more productive conversation with a brick wall
By the way, are you surprised
According to him running off
According to somebody in the chat section nemos is live right now. He's saying that i'm jewish
Of course he is he's doing his own live stream right now and he's claiming that i'm jewish that and that he won
That basically it was a victory again
Again, it's very easy to always claim you win if there's no set goalpost
Again, I'd really encourage people to go rewatch my full debate with him because
And keep in mind when you watch it the agreed on topic that he agreed to when he showed up
Was the morality of yaoi the god of the bible
And then all he did through the whole conversation was try to change the topic
Let's talk about flat earth. Let's talk about genetics. Let's know we're talking about morality
You're claiming you get your more objective morals from this book and people complained that I was constantly quoting the book
But the reason I was doing so was yes, I have severe problems with the morality of the abrahamic religions
All three of them judaism islam and christianity and I can cite verse in line for why I disagree with them
Jesus said some beautiful things. He also said some really fucked up shit
When you understand these were all floating around as separate accounts for hundreds of years before they were compiled
You start to get the question are all of these stories even necessarily talking about the same man
right
So
I don't pretend to know anything and I have no reason to believe you do either
Or that your ancient magic book does
And I was trying to show that throughout that conversation
If anything I walked into that conversation with far too much good faith. I should have been more vitriol
Um in any case as far as being upset with you
I wasn't upset with your moderation as far as I was concerned. I got him to say everything
I wanted him to he outright said that kids who are victims deserve it
He said the nine-year-old rape victim should be stoned to death if no one can confirm she screamed
which
again
According to the bible women are not credible witnesses in
Corp, so it would have to be a man
Saying that he heard her scream because women aren't good witnesses
Otherwise that little girl needs to be stoned to death according to dust and nemos
and that's
Well, no if it's the word of an all-knowing perfect being I shouldn't be able to quote unquote cherry pick it
And if I can show you passages from it that it's calling for specific actions and you're ignoring them
You're the one who's cherry picking you're choosing to follow the nice bits and ignoring the bad bits
And while that's a much healthier way to live
It's that's kind of state of cognitive dissonance to do that while also claiming the text is an error
By the way crypto fin i'm actually
Showing the emails of diane and her email address is blurred out
And that's why when dust and nemos said that the reason why he wasn't showing the
emails that he had from diane was because he didn't know how to blur out the uh
Email address that was ridiculous because if you saw the video that he did in his presentation
Against me
He had all sorts of stuff blurred out on it with different colors and everything so again the lies
Curtis why is it that?
Someone who claims that they've never lied
Finds it's so easy to lie. I noticed that about about dust and nemos. I mean he the lies come fast and furious
What do you think about that?
I mean the first thing a con man is always going to say is trust me
I don't know why that's even
Why that's even a question right like
Yeah, everyone who's got something to sell is going to try and push that they're credible
everyone and even uh
Even claiming that the god of the bible hates liars
That's not really a correct statement and I know the commandment people are about to reach to but if you go read that again
Properly it says thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor
Yeah, that is not that is not a prohibition on lying
That is a prohibition on one very specific type of love. Those are not the same thing
So if I'm selling you a jar of snake oil saying it's going to cure your baldness
That is not me bearing false witness against my neighbor. It wouldn't fall within the spectrum of that commandment
Meanwhile
If you're picking up sticks on a Saturday, so sayeth the lord you must be stoned to death
Right
Yeah, I mean it's just unbelievable these students are quite dangerous
The one thing that i'm noticing with these people like shawn turnbull of sgt report
Hope girl
Uh, uh, who is the researcher for shawn turnbull and dustin emos these people all claim to be the most pious
righteous christians and yet they are
Evil pure what's going on?
Okay, so one of the first conversations we ever had I compared the alleged truth and freedom movement
to
waiting through raw sewage
looking for uh
Looking for dropped jewelry, right? I don't know if you remember that but I know I gave that comparison
Now
You're familiar with what the strizand effect is, right? Yeah
Okay, so
Let's say
Even just really mundane information
But that you don't want being a mainstream talking point
Like all of the politicians who own stocks in the defense industry in the medical industry
While voting on the policies that are going to enrich themselves
Because when people talk about conspiracy theory all the conspiracy is is two or more people
Colluding with each other to get away with a crime. That's what a conspiracy is
You study history most of history is a string of conspiracies
Now if you have something like that you don't want to ban people talking about it because that'll cause more people to look at it
So what you can do instead if you just flood that space with nonsense
Then people trying to look especially if you can control the algorithms so that the nonsense is what's going to be seen first
Then anyone who goes trying to look is going to be constantly stumbling over that stuff
And if you're working 40 to 60 hours a week and you've got other real world problems
How much time and energy do you have to sift through that?
You're going to say it's not worth your time and you're going to stop looking
It's basically just adding static over the signal so that people can't discern what's real and what isn't
So for example
When
Dustin claimed victory over you because he took your words out of context and manipulated it
And then he played that video for his congregation and his followers
Um, like you said, they probably didn't see the entire debate
They just saw that clip
And then because they he's like the cult of personality. I notice a lot of people they believe everything
SGT report says everything hope girl says everything Fetzer says everything Dustin says because
it's them
It's like a worship. These people are
Like cult members. Is that what you're seeing or how do you explain this?
I mean
As far as his viewers go with that really wouldn't matter either way because if they're following him
It's because he's appealing to their confirmation bias
We even had that with abdl loroy after that debate with him
Abdl messaged me and said curt. I suggest you go back and reread the bible looking for truth
Oh, so to understand your book. I need to go into it assuming it's correct. That's ridiculous
But that's again if you've been raised to believe that this book is the truth
Then you're going to look for people who are going to reaffirm that
And so I mean if people are already following him, they're going to eat up whatever he says it doesn't really matter
That's why I said at the end. This was for the viewers here. I
Put into words why I dislike the god of the bible and why I consider it a moral
That's all
And I got Dustin to just outright agree with a lot of it which was hilarious
That's the thing
Yeah, you're absolutely right. See like what I was trying to do and I would have loved to have had him stay longer
But I don't know if you saw that he got nervous
The moment that I showed him
Diane Pauline's email
He that's when he left because he knew that she said I'm forwarding it to you
And he knew what she was going to forward to me, which was this whole infighting
Which I haven't even finished showing everybody, but I mean he was embarrassed. He's like, oh my god
She actually forwarded him that email string
I don't know how much of that you saw but that was basically
SGT report trying to say oh good Dustin we're together on the same side now and then Dustin saying no, I'm not
on your side you're you know
He was going off on him and then so so now it's like arguing going on and it continues
And this woman is like who are these people? She doesn't even know who these people are
They're just arguing on her email page, you know
so
Since you and I started interacting I've been cc'd in a lot of emails where I have no fucking clue who it is
to me
Like why am I getting this?
Yeah, it's bizarro lid. Why do you suppose this is happening now like october 8th 2025 that
The veil is being lifted people like Dustin Emos are being exposed short and the thing is they're all exposing themselves
Why do you think that is too like they're
They're exposed you
You accused me of the same thing when I criticized you victor when I was
Making fun of your conversation between you and brandon crawl and you're like and it's about the seed wars and the nephilim and like
You have no proof of that except that an ancient jewish book says so
That that's your evidence
It's the same with like saying the moon is made of plasma
I sit in the backyard and look at the moon almost every month. I can count the uh
I can count the craters on it. They're always in the same spot. It's not made of plasma
You can see it with your own eyes. You don't have to trust nasa
By the way, it's a full it's a full moon out today. Uh, it is we uh
We've also survived. I'm not sure if you're aware, but we've also survived the rapture twice in the last month
Yeah, yeah, it's where it's uh almost three o'clock in the morning and the full moon is so bright here
I know you guys are in the daytime, but you're in for a treat
Uh when the sun goes down because it's it's really
A sight to see the full moon. No my contention with you was that I
was
Trying to reach out to I was actually concerned about you. I considered you a friend
That's why I was shocked when dustin said that he was never my friend
I I don't understand why you would ever want to
well, I guess if you're like a
Sir like subversive
But I I considered you a friend I considered dust and a friend and when I reached out to you
I reached out to you sincerely because I was asking you for help with
Kenneth Pauline son of venos
And uh, you know the only response I got from you was somebody saying hey, listen
Did you see that hit piece that they did where you were calling me a faggot and this and that?
I get it. I mean listen people call me worse things, but I was I was genuinely surprised. I thought you were my friend
I'm just saying since
Right and I
Generally considered us to have a friendship as well now that being said like I said
And you took it a little out of context, but that might have just been a misunderstanding
What I said was I choose to keep multiple layers of separation
between myself and child rape apologists
It's not just that I don't want to be friends with people who say that shit
If someone's keeping those people as friends
I don't want them around me either if you're friends with someone like Jeffrey Epstein
I don't want you near me if you're friends with someone like Dustin Nemo's who's saying that some
You know Tibetan girl who was raised Buddhist deserves it when she's sold to a pedophile
Because her parents worshiped the wrong imaginary friend. Then I don't want you near me. I don't want to be attached to that
You know, I told a specific ill-willed to you. That's just my stance on it
So so I totally respect that and I agree with that even
So what I appreciate that we're doing this in front of the audience and this is unrehearsed. This is just real people
How do you think you and I could have dealt with that in a way because if you would have told me that like if you
if you would have contacted
that I would have agreed with and
Just so you know
I probably would have distanced myself from Dustin as well because
I didn't see it quite the way you did and also just so you know
I felt like since I have a weekly show with him that
I don't know. I think you could have convinced me to say, hey, you know what drop this guy
Don't do the shows with him because the way you just expressed that to me now
I completely agree with you. But the way that I saw it was in a
You know video that like I said, you know, I have a sense of humor
Uh, but man if you would have just told me I would have been like wow, you've got a really good point
So what can we learn from this with the audience so that
These things don't happen
Yeah, can I reply to that because I had originally planned we had uh
Another show but with you myself and Brandon planned
Yeah, yeah, I was planning on telling you that in that show and then you cancelled it because you were traveling that week
So the show where I was planning on explaining that got cancelled and I just kind of moved on to doing other things
That was all
Okay, but still I mean, I think I think we could have uh
avoided that had we communicated and that's what's so important about communication because
What you stated I can't argue. That's absolutely true. Uh, I was also flabbergasted
With the comments that Dustin said and in my
opinion
It was one of the reasons why Christianity is so dangerous any religion
That holds to those things where you could say that a child deserves to be murdered that way
I mean wow, I mean
that that was uh, uh quite shocking
to me
and he said it with a straight face without any kind of
flinching or nothing
The do you remember
The uh, the first show you did with myself and my weird friend Darren
Yeah, yeah, do you remember the video he played of the rabbi from it?
Yeah
Do you remember what the rabbi was saying?
No
Okay, the rabbi was reading from the rhombom. The rhombom is what the jews called the book of mimonides in the christian bible
And he was explaining that the proper interpretation of the rhombom is that both islam and christianity
Exist to get the goyim to worship their god
Okay, yeah, I believe that
Because according to the real jewish messianic prophecies
Before the messiah can arrive all the nations need to bow to hasham
So even if it's a watered down wrong version of the religion as long as those nations
Are claiming to worship hasham
Then that's still a victory doesn't matter that they're not following all the laws. They just need to profess worship to him
So christianity was adopted by emperor constantine who then pushed it across all of europe
And it became the european culture and pushed out european paganism
And islam pushed out all the different religions and became the dominant religion in arabia and a lot of asia
They essentially just went two separate directions and colonized two different parts of the world
But because of that over half of the world now claims to be part of one of the abrahamic religions regardless which one it is
And that's why we're in such a mess because everything is based on deception manipulation and lies
Yeah, that's what you're gonna wade through in this space constantly it's never gonna stop
That's why when you were saying I was gonna run out of people to call fags
I was laughing about it like no it's never gonna stop coming out of the woodwork
They're everywhere man, but I tried to keep up with it. I wouldn't be able to I'd never have time to sleep
Man, but the thing is
They're exposing themselves now and they're more brash than ever for example
You see donald trump sitting next to bill gay sitting next to albert burla sitting next to
Mark suckerberg fouchies running around
You've got uh, dust and emos right now doing a live stream gloating that he won and that amadu and all this stuff
so it's like
I I don't see where this ends. There's no
There's no coming to terms with it like
If anything these people are even more emboldened because now dustin's like I never lose a debate
I'm like, wait a minute. You just ran out
You just quit
But he's chalking that up as a victory
What's the mentality with this? How come are these people just psychotic?
Well, I mean if you're saying that a nine-year-old rape victim should be stoned to death, you're psychotic and
As far as that goes if you're trying to test children for psychopathy
One of the ways you do it is by seeing if they'll believe they can do things that are wrong because an authority says
Like if the teacher says you're allowed to punch that child in the face
A child with a conscience will look at them and go no, I'm not
But a child with psychopathic tendencies might just walk up to that other kid and punch them and be like well the teacher said I could
Like
So when you're going well if the book says you need to stone the nine-year-old to death you need to
Stone the nine-year-old to death because the book says so
The point of these belief systems is to create psychopaths
It artificially induces it you're somehow telling yourself that the thing you claim to worship is pure love
While it constantly demands blood sacrifices
Well, I'm glad you've come back on the show because you know what we're learning a lot more
Curtis with you on this show
Then we were with Dustin. I could see I don't know how much of that you saw
But it was gaslighting. It was manipulative like you said with your debate
It was supposed to be on a certain topic
But he kept moving it over to this and to that and to this it was just insane
And we never never got around to seeing any of his evidence when he showed the so-called emails
That he had
You couldn't even see them. They were like small like this and he's like look look you see
James Fetcher did the same thing when I asked him for his dd2 14
He didn't show his dd2 14
He showed an old grainy photo of some guy all the way in like the back row
With an arrow pointing at it and he's like look you see that guy right back there all the way back there like back there
That's me. That's the proof. It's like
Yeah
But the audience
His congregation believes it
It's like a jim jones
Drink the kool-aid kind of thing
well, that's
again
Going back to points that were made in that conversation even he was he at first he was critical of
Me when I pointed out that I had problems with jesus curing the blind man
Right, like how can you be opposed to that?
Well, jesus is asked because remember when he was saying intergenerational sin and the you know, third and fourth generation being punished
Well, the disciples of jesus asked
What sin did this man's parents commit for him to be born this way?
jesus says
He didn't his parents didn't commit a sin. The father made him this way. So I might reveal myself
So the only reason that man was blind was so that jesus could come along and cure it and show off
now
We have a term from when you create a problem so that you can artificially come along and provide the answer, right?
That's called the hegelian dialectic
Create the problem sell the solution
Create a blind man so you can cure him and be saved
It's literally a mind control tactic right there in broad daylight in the bible
And when I point that out suddenly he needs to change the topic
Same with that long pause. Like do you call this justice?
Of course it isn't it's psychopathic it treats people as commodities to be used and hurt in whatever way you see fit
I mean the the story of lots even worse
According to the god of the bible lot was completely righteous before the lord. He had done nothing wrong
And based on a bet with satan that lot would continue to love him no matter what
The all-knowing god of the bible gives satan the conditions just don't kill him
him
But satan kills his 10 children with the god's permission
And tortures him to near death and turns his wife and friends against it
now
You'll be saying there will be people saying but that wasn't god
It was satan, but it was done explicitly with god's permission
The all-knowing god knew exactly what satan would do with those rules and he gave those rules knowing it
Right and if he already knew how lot was going to behave anyway, there should have been no need for the test, right?
Yeah, but these all psychopathic nonsense the longer you think about it the worse it gets
That's why we're in a mess
Because the thing is these people fight
For their right to be psychopaths and then those of us who see the psychopathy
We're like holy cow. We're surrounded by psychopaths. What do we do?
Because you know people say it's the jews. It's the jews. Okay. Yeah
We know it's the jews, but it's also these psychopathic christians and muslims too. Like you said, it's the whole abrahamic religion
instructed to bring about the antichrist because all of them are crazy
Absolutely, and that's why frequently in and at noise the hell out of them. I refer to christians as christ kites
Because yeah from from my perspective, they're exactly as bad as the jews
Well, when you when you hear dustin and you know, the beginning of this whole thing was very telling
Jews may use lies to circumvent the non-jews meanwhile everything that dustin has been stating
our lies
And the moment that I showed him the truth
He couldn't take it. He quit he left
He hit I don't know if the audience was able to see the expression on his face when he saw the email from diane
That made him nervous because he was like, oh my god. I'm exposed
It said I am going to forward you the email that dustin sent me. She's like, who is this guy?
You know, he's arguing on my he sent me an email and now he's arguing with shawm
From bestie tear report and some fetzer guy is on there and hope like who are these people
Yeah, I got an email. I'm sending it to you
And so dustin is now and he left
He used the excuse. Well, I had to mute him because his and this is what do you say about this? Curtis?
Because he was trying that with you too
You're having a debate
You see how you're allowing me to speak
Notice if you go back dustin spoke over me and he tried to speak
Louder than me
And that's I had to mute him because otherwise what he was trying to do is he was trying to dominate because he
Was trying to keep me and suppress the evidence
What is that what what tactic how do you explain that to people what he was doing? I don't know if you saw that
Did you see that or no?
I did. Yeah, the jew cries ever does he strikes you? I don't know
And I mean with that again the accusations of filibuster
Part of why with especially with like my conversation with him
Part of why he wanted the five minute time segments
Was so that he could rattle off a bunch of non sequiturs about genetics or flat earth or whatever other nonsense
And if I didn't argue back against those points and derailed the conversation in the process
He could claim that I conceded them because I couldn't argue against them when in fact
I was just choosing to ignore them to focus the conversation
right
and that's
The problem and I've said this before the entire problem with the concept of live debate is that
If you gave me a five minute time window, I could make a ridiculous number of assertions just make a stick
And to the amount of time it would take to actually show the evidence to refute it
To refute a single point could take two or three five minute segments
So
The moment you start trying to refute that way you're never going to be able to refute all of the points someone's bringing up
Exactly
Listically if you were trying to have a mature honest debate, it wouldn't be live or in time segments
It would be in a set of open letters that anyone could read
So that you could both take as long as you needed both to write it
And as much space on the pages you needed to make your point with all of your citations, right?
Wow academic paper. Yeah, now what you said recently happened
with uh, Jonas e alexis the senior editor of the veterans today foreign
Uh, anyway, it's supposed to be uncensored veterans today foreign news or something and um
He invited me and fetzer
To engage in that sort of debate which you said where we would write down and with citations and everything
And we did it for about a week
back and forth
James fetzer's citations were
At hominem attacks
Which were clearly stated in the beginning. No at hominem attacks
Mine were evidence. I provide evidence. That's why lately. I've been doing these marathons because I've been showing people the evidence
And then at the end
When he was about to publish it James fetzer told him don't publish it
And then I got the letter from uh, the senior editor
He says oh because we received a letter from James fetzer. We're not going to publish it
Which exposed this uncensored veterans today magazine as censoring itself
And again, there's this power
That james fetzer has I never realized it because what you were there during the debate
He's just some crazy old man
But it turns out a phone call from him gets him on stu peters within 48 hours my interview with stu peters censored
They're all connected
Mike Adams alex jokes
It's one big club and we're not in it and the moment that we dare to expose these people
They shut us down
And that's what's happening and that's what I'm exposing and that's why I've been under such attack
Because they've all been attacking me in this past week a concerted effort as I showed in that email that they're all cc'd on
It's all the same people. They're all working together
But it's good because it's being exposed now. That's what I see
Yeah, I I really don't have a lot to say on that because I haven't been following this closely
uh
if anything I've been
Until fairly recently I was kind of just taking a break from the news cycle and the all media
And not really keeping track of much
But like I was saying earlier about the putting noise over the signal
Yeah, you're going to flood it with agents and you're going to do it for every single flavor
even things like
You know dangerous harmful vaccines
You're going to flood that space with your own people
Who while criticizing it are criticizing it with non-sensical arguments
So that people who are trying to look into it find those and discredit anyone who's calling it out, right?
So not only do they do that with vaccines, but they do that with religion as well
abstract religions the oldest control mechanism on earth
An invisible man in the sky that you can't see totally told me that
You have to do what I say because he told me or you need to be stoned to death
Hey, uh, Curtis the hell do you think that is?
I want to show you something. I don't know if you can see this Curtis, but uh, dust
Dustin emos is in the chat section
Oh, hi Dustin
You see he's there rather than being here. Dustin you have the uh, uh, the link you can come back on the show
And don't be afraid if you claim to have no fear then come on the show
He's here in the chat section, but why don't you join Curtis and I?
Do you think that uh, uh, Dustin emos will have the courage to actually join
Us Curtis or no?
I I doubt it and I also don't really care
What's what's the conversation going to be well the book says it so it's true
Little girls should be stoned to death
It's interesting. He's so concerned with followers. He comes on to the chat section to say you're losing followers victor
But Dustin why don't come on the show, uh, uh and actually
Show your strength. He's saying I can't stand being censored and muted in a debate
So no thanks. I tried get a moderator. Okay, Curtis griffin will be our moderator. How about that before?
Uh, I was the moderator between you and Curtis griffin. Would you allow Curtis griffin to moderate this?
He's saying he was 5.87 before one hour later 5.86
Tomorrow, who knows no, Dustin
The time is now
I'm done with you
After this because you've shown your true colors if you're going to be a coward
And be in the comment section then so be it and you're welcome to stick around because I've got more evidence to prove
Who you are, but here's your chance now to at least speak to Curtis griffin and to Curtis griffin
What you meant when you said that you broke him
Now while we wait to see if he actually joins us. Can we get to some of that evidence?
I'd like to see that email chain
With Dustin saying that she had never spoken to
Like yeah, zoom in on it so the people watching can actually read it for themselves and just quickly go through that
Yeah, so, uh, uh, let me see. Okay. We got to Curtis griffin here. Yeah, this is this is incredible here
first of all, let me
Show you the one where she
Says right here, this is the one that scared him by the way
This is the one that scared him away
Because this is Diane Pauline and I blocked out her name or her address so she's not being doxed
And uh, she says clearly he has only sent me what I forward to you and I have never replied
And what she forwarded to me was this infighting that's going on between him
SGT report and look you see her name is right there Diane Pauline. This is dated october 6 2025 and it's SGT report vp
Diane Pauline hope girl and james fetzer. So
That's why he freaked out because he was like, oh my god
She's forwarding him the email that I sent nowhere in this is he concerned about her son
Or about her it's all about again him with his followers. This man is ego driven. It's pride. It's hubris
it's really disgusting, but
I'm not surprised because most of these people are the people that are in charge of churches right now
Right. I mean these people if they think that they can lead people by example, meanwhile, they've got like
Mansions Bentley's private jets. They're always asking for money. Oh here he is
He's here. We have you muted and can't see you Dustin. Here's the evidence that he's lying by the way
Here's the evidence. He's lying
We can't see you Dustin got you again. Share the screen if you can't see it
But we can't see your face. I have evidence right here that you're lying that I have helped or tried to help Diane
Well
Well, let's go down and read it. But let's just go through the evidence right here
We got completely without arguing
Okay, so Victor was lying Nemo's was trying to help the entire time Victor's trying to claim that I haven't tried to help
Implying that he's the only one who even was even in that big mega email chain. You guys saw we called himself Jesus
He continually tried to pretend that he was the only one helping
Well, here's the email that proves he's lying
Here's where he introduced me to her by email because I didn't have it and he was sitting on that too for a while
So he knew that he was lying. He knew
That we can't see who sent this
We can't you're not showing the why can't you see why can't you see the screen that's being shared victor?
No, no, I can see the screen
I can't see who sent the email
You know, it's from Victor it's from Victor to me and Diane
I'm he says I'm introducing you to Dustin Nemo's who was a good friend of mine and may be able to help your son
And there's more to it there, but that's where he himself introduces us
So now he's saying this never happened never happened and I'm lying and she's now saying
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Dustin. What are you talking about? What's what's the date on this?
It is
When you first introduced August 17th
Victor you're lying and you're caught again just like earlier. That's why you muted me
That's why you wouldn't allow me to speak
That's why you had to start over sharing because I wrecked you in front of your own audience again
You're a liar. You're caught lying again. Here's where I offered to help her
Hi, Diane. I was going to offer to interview you
Because you don't allow there you go again. I'm not even finished. He keeps interrupting. See here's
Yeah, you have to halfway through and he's he's censoring again. This is why I had to go the first time
Halfway through and he's censoring. I didn't even finish
You're coming in here to filibuster. Are you going to censor me again victor or not?
No, but are you going to let me speak? No, it's my turn again. You're doing it again victor
It's my turn. You were interrupting halfway through my infographics. Stop censoring victor
Stop lying about me. Stop calling everybody that you don't like a pedophile
You're despicable
Disgusting human who spreads vicious lies with no evidence
You're bullying this elderly woman and I show on my post at Nemo's news network.com slash victor
That you bullied her threatened to withhold help from her and after she called you out for doxing her name
Without permission after she warned you not to with a gag order
You have now knew I threatened this woman into submission and when he gets out when my brother son of enos kenneth gets out
Dude, it's not going to go well for your career. More people will actually leave your channel than are already leaving
Since the debate a hundred or more people have left your channel. I've got the proof
I've got the before and I've got the after quote
Hey, diane, I was going to offer to interview you if you want to raise awareness in quote victor says this never happened
I was never trying to help her now diane, of course refused because of a gag order which victor violated repeatedly
With his press releases because he considers her a quote opportunity
End quote and he's not actually trying to help her. He's virtue signaling. He's manipulative
Where does it say opportunity again? You can say quote end quote, but you got to show the evidence dusted
That's what I showed that one earlier, but I'm happy to pull it up again
Yeah, let's see now. Wait a minute. Didn't you earlier on the right? No right here
An abomination of that by the way notice one thing here
You don't like highlights of your lies. You don't like lies are highlighted
Dustin, can I speak here? You say here victor calls himself. Jesus. I showed this yesterday on the show
Go back to that. Okay. No, no
Where's that?
Closing your lies. Let's show
Let's show where I say that I'm jesus right here. It's high. It's actually enlarged at the top so you can see it
It says quote you put your you keep interrupting and censoring you won't let me answer questions and you change topic
First of all, first of all, I want to prove you call her an opportunity right here in in red. You see that
in red it says
That I would share the opportunity to interview diane and her son to me
It's a duty. It's not an opportunity and here's where you said you're jesus quote
You put your trust in vp over jesus and quote. You're not jesus
Maybe you're crackhead jesus the satanist lucifer that you refer to but you're not jesus victor
Wait a minute. Now you have to allow me to show the full context because now you're taking things out of context
Can you show the entire email without the blackout?
This there's no blackout. You lie every time you say there's a blackout. You said it five
No blackout not a single not a single letter is missing you lying
Liar not a single letter is blacked out. You're a liar. It is highlighted for convenience liar
Then why are you not showing the jesus part? Show it show it?
All right. Now. Let me read it. Okay. Go back to it. Go back to it. Okay
Yeah, make it big. Okay. There you go make it blue for your convenience
No, no, no, but go go to the front because you see
You're taking things out of context here. I want to show people want to say christian. How are you jesus
Dustin let me read the entire sentence. Okay, because you're taking it out of context
We'll move it over so I can read the entire sentence. You're you're blocking it out
This is satanic. Yeah. Yeah, there's more to that. Okay. Now you go. There you go
All right, keep going keep going so that the audience can yeah, there you go make it there you go
All right. Now. Let's put this into context. It says
You have a debate coming up with your congregation
And I will not defend you if you fail to acknowledge that you put your trust in vp over jesus
And explain to me and your congregation why you choose to do so now dustin
See
Curtis am I calling myself jesus in that? There's no other context
It's grammatically that that would make sense victor
You can't be saying put your trust in vp over jesus if there's absolutely no situation between vp and myself
Wherever a situation came up where I had to trust her over jesus. That's a lie
You're lying. Okay, and you're not you're you're now conflating two things though because he's conflating two things
No
Curtis I already broke you once you want it again
Oh, shut the fuck up you little faggot
Now then
No, it's saying you're not jesus is not saying that I am jesus. It's a certain that you're not
You put your trust in vp over jesus
end quote
Yes, and you can jesus you can say that that is I trusted vp over who victor
Because vp brought evidence and Victor was lying over and not allowing people to respond
Who did I trust over look who's talking over and not allowing other all right, Curtis answer this question
Then who did I try no no no no let me say what I was going to say
Stop talking over me. No, I keep getting censored. I'm sorry
stop
now that
Saying that you put your trust in vp over jesus might be wrong
But it is not a claim that he is jesus
Those are two completely different sentences
Then he says you're not jesus
That's still not claiming that he is
That is grammatically what it says. He's asserting that you're not someone. This is really a claim that he is
Yes, it is very simple. You're just lying through your teeth
Curtis answer the question then who did I put my trust in over vp?
I don't know because I don't fucking know you
Okay, so I'm sorry. Who did I put my trust in over jesus?
Again, I don't know who you put your trust exactly the only thing that could possibly make sense of this
Is that victor's referring to himself as jesus because the only person I put trust in over was over him
I put trust in vp over victor because vp made sense and had evidence. That's what happened. That's why victor's mad
That's why victor keeps saying you're with this vp person who I didn't know
It actually says here
But he actually says right here quote you have staked your entire reputation and family's future on vp
In quote even though I kept saying an hour and 33 minutes later in an email
He shared quote. I do not know this vp guy in quote
He keeps he keeps trying to go back to that. Well, guess what? I found vp
I met vp vp had some good shit on you and now vp showed me all this other stuff where you're bullying diane and all this evidence
vp had receipts victor has no receipts victor calls himself jesus and lies about men being pedophiles
Pastors fathers being pedophiles. You're a sick sick man victor shame on you
Judge whether or not victor is right or wrong about who you put your trust in no
I do know sentence structure and he's not calling himself jesus
What else could make sense here kurtis?
Who did I put my trust in?
Again claiming you put your trust in someone is not claiming to be that someone those are completely but he is because he's saying
I put my trust in vp over jesus. You're just a lot. How did I put my trust in vp over jesus kurtis?
How has nothing to do with that is the question of is that man?
Yes, the context has something to do with the sentence and the grammar and the context the syntax all of it
Yes, it makes it's very important actually you can't understand without the context and the context is
He's saying that I put my trust in something
over jesus
Which might be in vp over jesus now. How did I put my trust aiming to be jesus?
How did I put my trust in vp over jesus when I put here's what happened?
I put my trust in vp over victor and then here's what he says I put my trust in vp over jesus
So that's what happened here
I
Did not put my trust in vp over jesus. I put my trust in vp over victor because vp brought evidence and here's him
Misconflating lying
insinuating. He's jesus
Just like I said, I never lie. I never lie
That's the quote victor. Don't get it wrong again. I never lie because I'm a boy shout not lie
Justin can you see this? Can you read this? This is from diane pauline
I
Want you to tell the audience that she's lying now
She wrote this is 10 six. This is just like less than 48 hours ago
Expose them all satanic people
vp sent me another email. I will forward it to you
Keep kenny in your prayers this week as he is applying for parole
No one knows when he will be released
But according to you and vp. He's already out
And has his date that's a lie
He is definitely want to go and see you asap. Yeah
He does this she doesn't say anything about wanting to see dust and kreger
He wants to see me as soon as he gets out
Saw him yesterday and he is hanging in there
Praying for his release and safety will keep you posted. Thanks again for your friendship and loyalty to my son. I don't
believe
The lies
Okay, and I've got more from diane paul about you
So you're either going to call diane pauline a liar. Here she is
diane pauline
october
6
2025
I am trusting my instincts. Who is hope girl?
She has a telegram channel and spreading lies
Like you refuse to interview me and so on
What the fuck?
I only trust you
despite what everyone is saying
She's not saying I trust dust and kreger
She's not saying she trusts hope girl or shaw and turnbull of sgt report
She's not saying she trusts james fetzer. She's saying she trusts me. This is addressed to me
Can you provide any emails? Just straight up emails not with all the flashy stuff that you have there
All the razzle dazzle just a regular
Can you provide where she says I only trust you dust and kreger?
I'm sorry. Dustin. He only brings razzle dazzle. You're gonna have to deal with it. I highlight
Take notes
You're a liar. Please stop and please stop lying and saying I'm blacking things out, by the way
Yes, she's either lying mistaken or you faked that email because I already showed you where I emailed her and you introduced us
Wow
So now you're and now you're trying now you're trying to say you've been erupting victor. There you go again
You asked me for evidence i'm trying to provide it and you keep interrupting
You keep interrupting when I try I think you're faking that email victor. I think you're lying again because you keep getting caught line
I think it's a fake email
Yeah, I think it's a fake email because I just showed you didn't I I just showed you where I sent her email to help her
And you were in that email chain because you introduced us. I showed you that email
Is this a fake email where you sent? Probably that looks like a text that that is a yeah, that is a uh, uh
That is a jpeg
Okay, so so vp. This is dated october 6 2025 901 a.m
You're telling me up this email between you sgt report dian hope girl
James fetzer where you say don't ask him to stand down. This is a glorious
Implosion. He destroyed his career and expo so you're acknowledging that this is true. I thought you said I just made this up
No, I said this is a jpeg. I never said you make I said that you made up the email. She just sent you saying that that uh
Anything all that stuff you just showed you showed two or three different emails
First of all, she did email me and I did email her
And we talked and you were in that chain and I already showed that evidence like 20 minutes ago
So here you are again
You're trying again to go in circles around your lie. You got caught lying and here you are
Trying to say that I never emailed her. You got caught lying victor
But you just said you talked to her there's difference did talk to her
I've emailed her many times just like I proved earlier
Wait a minute talking and emailing to help her
But you talked to her by the phone
No, I never said I was on the phone with her victor. You're now making it up again
You're just making it up again victor somebody in an email. That's different because you talk in email, too
That is common vernacular
Yes, really? Maybe you're not american. Maybe you don't understand this
Oh, i'm not american now. I don't know. Are you
What am I dustin? I don't know. I think you're I think you're a stolen valour jew
Who lives in the middle east and tries to target truthers like this poor man's mother
Frankly, that's what I think the mother who doesn't trust you. Yes the mother who doesn't trust you
And you know what even if you have somehow convinced her to like lie and say she never talked to me
I can prove that she did and that you were part of it. So here you are convincing an old lady to lie
That's pretty fucked up victor and son of enos is going to know all of it. He calls me his brother
He loves me. He knows about my past my humble
Upbringing is what he calls it and he loves my music too by the way
She's actually listening to this dustin. So you're called
Uh liar
I can't wait to see you when you get out brother and we're gonna have a great talk about what victor has done to your mother
And I have evidence
So this is what sgt report sends to you. What do you think about this?
Dustin thou shalt not bear false witness. Why are we talking about sgt report instead of what you lied about victor?
Well, why don't you say that you said that you didn't claim to be jesus?
You said that you didn't call her an opportunity. You said that I didn't email her
I keep ribbed like destroying your lies and you just keep offering more lies and more questions
I still don't get to ask you say you still mute me. You still censor me. You still over talk me
I don't get to ask questions. It's not a debate. It is victor asking Nemo's a hundred lies
That's what it is and I'm done with it
I'm done with it when you're ready for a real debate with a real moderator like a man
I'm here when you're ready for fair. I'm here. We tried this your way and you proved that you censored
No, no, no, good night saying that you've conversed with diane. Okay. I'll just talk without him here
Saying that you talked with diane if it's via email
Would work if she had replied to you
Right
He showed you never
Yeah, she never showed examples of him emailing diane
Yeah on the 17th of august
And we have from yesterday diane saying she's never replied and wants the emails to stop
Yeah, it's that's right there
This is from yesterday
You're still listening to this because i'm sure you are can you show evidence of diane replying to any of your emails?
Please you can't that would be the actual evidence
That's how that works
similar to you know, my understanding actual sentence structure unlike you
but
Yeah, I mean he totally takes one part of a huge sentence
And claims that i'm claiming that i'm jesus. Do you see the psychopathy here? Do you see the deception?
The uh, I mean it's exactly like he said he came in and he said he broke you
You heard him when he said that yeah, I know
He still believes he broke you. I mean, it's just incredible. He's got to clutch those straws, man
He's got to hold on to that because the other option is admitting that he's not mr. Never loses
Now now here he is back in the chat section desperately
Everybody
Well, you did not
Either on this live stream or on your own channel show any evidence of diane replying to you
Does it you have a reply?
Yeah, I mean now and he even's calling her an old woman insulting her with ad hominem attacks
That she's lying. I mean, holy cow. And can I point out another misdirection in the language there?
See, you're giving someone the opportunity to speak with someone else as in you know two people and you're trying to bring them together
Is now seeing that you view that person as a business opportunity. That's not how that language works
Well, I mean again, so wow curtis. This is like
Totally unscripted all of you who are watching this are watching a man
Crumble in real time of his own doing
Because if you notice he was talking over curtis who was trying to say something
He was whining claiming that he was being censored and muted, which he was not
And he left again
Not once but twice. What does this say about the strength of a man
Leading a congregation and more so what does it say about his followers?
I mean you already know my opinion on all of the abrahamic cults, so I don't have much to add on that man
Wow
So you see he talks tough again another one who when confronted with the opportunity to actually show
Evidence
He quickly doesn't want this shown. This is what diane sent me when I asked her
Have you received or corresponded with him 21 times? She's like, yeah, I'm sending. I'm forwarding you what I sent
But she never replied
Because she said she trusts her instinct and she only trusts me he's been
Lying to her
A woman has instinct she could tell
So anyway, look at this. He this is him
Uh, uh and reply to these uh emails. They're all here. I mean it's just unbelievable
Um, I'm gonna continue to read them because he obviously doesn't want this stuff read
so
I wrote this fire through him
Yeah, yeah, let's let's go through them in order because
I've got listen. I actually put time into this
So this is shown from an sg2 report that he didn't want you all to see because he's embarrassed
And shone turnbull is also embarrassed because these people are outing themselves as controlled opposition
So again, this is sg2 report at gmail.com. I'm not doxing anybody. He's a public figure people could contact him. He's he's
He does shows
He says dustin thou shalt not bear false witness. This is very important victor deceived you and his audience in real time
He is a pathological liar. Notice how these people write too with all caps
It's all projection and inversion
He's calling me a liar and he puts it on all caps because he knows he's the liar
um
The video of victor hugo that I posted on the phaser.com was a video that exposed him for being a masked up
pandemic lockdown cuck
The video I posted is still on the phaser.com right here for you and everyone else to see for yourself
Note that it does not show any simulated stabbing of you
Fetzer or stu peters, etc
Here is the video I posted at the phaser.com watch it an intel asset lockdown cuck in a mask
The video is actually all taken out of context
I was living in china and everybody wears masks in china because of the pollution
I was wearing a mask way before the covet thing even happened because that's just it's like a thing if you live in china
That's what people do and you wear a mask. So it's really bad air quality there
But of course they took that and they took it all out of context
um
Now jump to 620 in the victor hugo hit piece who released as victor hugo literally lies about me
Pretends to click on the video I posted in the phaser.com and instead plays an entirely different video
Watch victor lie to dustin nemos and his audience in real time
By playing a simulated stabbing video instead of the victor in a mask video that I had embedded on the phaser.com
Listen to victor lie when he says here it is folks. I'm not making it up again
I'm not making this up
Sean turnbull is responsible for the death if anything happens to stupeeters to dustin nemos to james fetzer
As he plays the simulated stabbing video, which I had never seen before in my life
Skip to 620 victor hugo is getting exactly what he wants dustin
He got you to fall into his snare and now he has turned on you just like he has turned on everybody
How to find a snake indeed now? I don't know if he saw uh
dustin nemos's response to this which was hilarious because he basically told uh
s t report
That he was a liar
So i'm going to show you that and then i'm going to show you how these people are so
misleading their audience and uh, it's a reason why people are losing faith in this whole
arena so here's
dustin nemos's response to which I totally agree
And then i'm going to show the audience who are just tuning in how these people lie to you. It's miss misleading
It's deception
So, uh, here's dustin nemos
His response. They'll shout not bear fault with false witness indeed. I have never claimed you showed that video on your website
I don't recall victor saying it either. So here's dustin actually saying the truth
and defending me
So
This is in dustin's own words
What he did say
And I agree with because he showed it in previous interviews
Was that you share the account behind it free mind music as if it were some legitimate news source
Rather than some meth adult troll with gay violent fantasies
The company you keep these days. I guess new maga full of trannies
Victor hugo got what he wants from me. What exposed he got nothing from me. Sean
I gave him nothing and took everything
I was on his show weekly. I exposed him as a liar. I lost nothing
win again
so
dustin
Really has this like opinion of himself, which is amazing
I want to show the audience and you Curtis because I don't know if you saw this
Remember what a sgt report was claiming that
His channel has nothing to do with the video of people getting stabbed. This is the phaser
Let me see. Did I just lose it?
I don't know. Let me see what happened here
Sorry about that folks. I don't know what happened
Okay, so we're back on this. Let me show you
Okay, let me get back to this stream here
But again
You have to bring receipts. You can't just talk about it. You have to actually show it
So i'm gonna show you guys
And because I know dustin's watching this because he's still in the chat
Are you going to show any of diane's replies to you?
Did she ever respond?
So, yeah, dustin. Oh, here he is all these lies
caught already his own audience seems to not care or be unable to comprehend dustin, uh
Curtis just asked you a question. Can you provide at least one?
email response
No, you didn't dustin you showed you emailing diane. You never showed diane emailing you
Yes, I can read
I shared it when I came in last and victor wouldn't let me talk
Oh, okay, I see what he's saying the one where she responded to him about
the inquiry of the, uh
Um interview that was when I first introduced
Dustin which was a mistake. I should never have introduced him just like I introduced him to you
And he's shown his true colors, but dustin you claim to have 21
emails correspondences from her. So anyway, let's get back to the phase
Wait, wait, I just want to clarify something that means that the entirety of the evidence shown
Was a request for an interview that she declined
That was it. Yeah. Yeah, that says any other correspondence. Has there been correspondence about you trying to help son of enos?
anything
Yeah, no
Please show that
That's a good question
But notice how dustin emos is now trying to deflect from your question by saying
Curtis you should hear what victor said about you lol
Curtis is right here right now and he can ask me and
He and I have been very honest with each other. So dustin your
deflection
is
From his question. Do you have any proof that you have?
Contacted her in any way to help her son
In any way
I've got it in spades because we communicate all the time
But I want to again show the audience how shone turnbull
Is a liar because here's the phaser stun him with truth and dustin emos was right
that he lied because
If you go to this click, which is right here. This is on the phaser
We didn't say that he showed the video here, but
He's leading people to this link
Where when they go to the link
I don't know if you've seen this Curtis, but you see how manipulative people are
so
SGT report is claiming that he's got nothing at all to do with the following of what i'm about to show you
Here's this channel with very few ones
May I please interrupt for a moment because
Dustin's there in the comments saying I tried to help her like I said no dustin show you trying to help her
Show her responding to you show you trying to organize anything
If you were sending her emails and she was ignoring you
Then that's showing that she doesn't want anything to do with you
That's what that shows
And and the thing is dustin why are you actually in the chat section
When if you were truly a man of god and without fear you would be here with Curtis and I
That's what I don't understand. So god hates cowards
And you're being a coward right now. Why are you so afraid of Curtis and I experienced pain relief faster recovery and boosted energy
With flex beams powerful red and near infrared
So you being in the chat is just uh exposing yourself as a coward
You can be here right now. You could show us the evidence
We will shut up as a matter of fact, I will gladly shut up and see the emails that you have with Diane
Not just that one
You can't just show us one where she says hey, listen, you know, I'm not I'm not going to do the interview and then that's it
So this is this is what I mean if you go from the
The phaser you end up seeing videos
Like this of dustin emos being stabbed in the face. Have you seen this Curtis?
No, why would I watch this?
Why would I possibly watch this and that's what I'm saying?
So this is what shawn turnbull of sg2 report denies
That his website the phaser leads to I literally just clicked on the phaser
Clicked on the link from the phaser
And this is what you get when you go to the link on the phaser
And meanwhile shawn turnbull another satanic christian who claims to be pious
righteous
And he's like no this it's not true
So he so we're supposed to deny what we're seeing what i'm showing you all in real time that you can actually
See for yourself dustin, please come back on the show
Look what he puts who's afraid see what he's afraid of
Which is why he had to censor me when I proved him a liar earlier twice all evidence above my brother son of enos
He keeps calling him his brother son of enos
What's nothing to do with you? I showed you the email when he gets out. He wants to see me
He doesn't say he wants to see you dustin you're delirious
And you're insulting his mother. She's watching this right now
This is the video that is being promoted on shawn turnbull's look at this
People getting stabbed in the face and everything and he's denying all this
It's just incredible
Again, I'm going to go back. Look. This is in real time people. I'm literally doing this in real time
So you can go back and see
That this leads back to
SGT report
The phaser which he admitted in his email
Was his channel. Here you go. Look, I can't make this stuff up people
So do you see how these liars are outing themselves and now they're infighting because dustin emos even called
shawn turnbull a liar the phasers stun him with truth
You go hear people you click on this channel and you will see all sorts of stuff including the homosexual stuff that uh
Dustin was talking about
Which is not
Very nice. All right, let's get back to the letters dustin emos is still in the chat section
Which is interesting instead of being here with us where he can actually show us
Instead of uh, uh being in the chat section, which is interesting. I don't know how the people in the chat section are
How are you all responding to dustin emos spamming the chat section when he should actually be here with curtis and i
How interesting
Well
You all your emails, but why don't you show the emails like this dustin like real like like
Without being censored and manipulated the way you did where you're
Showing people that i'm saying that i'm uh jesus and stuff. Oh, this is what uh, uh, vp says because they're all getting nervous because they're all infighting
So vp says
Guys
We are here to celebrate the final nail being hammered into victor's coffin his own doing by the way
Perhaps all the slander and defamation that victor has been inflicting on us all will very soon come to its final end
These guys she's begging uh
SGT report and dustin to stop fighting
That this is supposed to be about victor. Why are you guys outing each other?
So now here's ronald farnham getting thrown into the mix by shone from an sgt report
Who was a guest on my show and has nothing to do with any of this?
Sean says dear ronald farnham. I am writing to address the defamatory statements
You have made about me in your recent emails including the subject line referenced below and through communications evolving victor yugo
These statements are false and damaging to my reputation
I demand that you immediately cease making such statements and retract any prior false claims
If you continue to spread defamatory content
I will be forced to pursue legal action to protect my rights and reputation
Please confirm in writing that you will comply with this request. I hope to resolve this matter without further escalation
Sincerely shone turnbull sgt report and of course
He cc's it to his law firm parker
Daniels and kibord
To which ronald farnham answers dear whoever you are
I have no idea who you are or what you are talking about
But I only acknowledge official communication
Sincerely ronald russer farnham. So these people are so dead
And if he's gonna try to make threats he should learn a little bit of legal language
Because if you're doing something like that, it's not a request. It's a demand
A request is something that can be denied
If you want someone to stop using your name without your consent, it would be I demand you cease
But he he doesn't even know the language. He if he actually has lawyers
He probably should have let them draft it. They probably have a default one
They copy paste and then just insert the names into
But so the message that they're sent up
A dustin emos is still in the chat section dustin come on the show
Stop being a coward. You're showing your cowardice
What does this say curtis about the fact that you're on the show?
And this was actually supposed to be a debate with dustin emos and that he came on and left again
That's twice. He's run off
well, I mean
Even when he came on the second time he tries to talk over everyone
And then when he gets muted because he's talking over everyone
He starts quetching and going re oi vei oi vei. I'm a victim. I'm being censored
You know like a fucking jew
Yeah, it's interesting. He calls everybody a jew. Meanwhile, he's covechi
So these are the emails by the way that were sent to me when I asked
Diane if she's received emails from dustin emails. They're all a bunch of like nothing to do with her son
It's all like, uh
She's like, what is this drama that if I had if I had real world problems
And I was getting spammed with that bullshit. I'd be annoyed too
So she's like a subject. Please read this testimony. This is from vp, uh, uh, who
Now, uh, you heard dustin emos say he's aligned with that he's spoken with and that boy
Does vp have all sorts of evidence on me? I never met this person. I've shown this person already
She's a jew an armenian jew which interestingly enough is now aligned with dustin and has exposed dustin
So she says diane, please read this email that was written today, october 3rd 2025 by my friend
Men with friends like these who need enemies. They all hate each other
Who is currently being horribly attacked and victimized by victor hugo as of late
He has been posting endless videos of hope girl alleging that she is a pedophile, etc
She is a good christian woman, of course. She doesn't deserve this
I just want to present the perspective of people that victor is attacking if you want to personally verify any of this information
I'm sure that hope girl would love to speak with you on this. She is a wonderful person as are you and keenon
Which is interesting because that's not his name. His name is kenneth pauline
So these people don't even know his name
He uses keenon and son of enos as an alias because
He knew that people were uh
After him, but now everybody knows it's kenneth pauline
So call him by his real name
But they can't because they claim to be his friend and his brother
But they're actually snakes
So she says and of course all the same people involved. Hello russ. That's herpes winter
Susan bradford the woman who's having a bipolar manic episode in public
And james fetzer
I just wanted to convey the sentiment to you here that I said to jim on a phone call
I just had with him. I am so sorry for the torment
You have all experienced at the hands of this operative victor hugo
Myself and my husband tevan are no strangers to what it feels like to be targeted in this way
It's part of the reason why we left the united states 10 years ago
My family are engineers. We were building controversial free energy generator
And this is what put us on the target list at first
It was online trolling from the energy industry entire websites dedicated smearing us forums with 4 000 common threats
smear us countless troll blogs with tons of articles smearing us
Then the assignment for attacking us got passed to a literal satanic pedophile ring cult in the uk
That's when the trolling got really bad. My husband a real unlike victor navy vet and engineer
Was targeted with electronic weapons v2k microwave frequencies targeting his heart in his sleep
Plus there was in-person gang stalking when we were in the u in the uk
I had nine videos made about me every single day for four years made by the satanist group
They would send me sexual pictures and pictures of bloody dead children's bodies
Nothing was too much for the lengths they would go the lives were diabolical beyond belief
I documented all of it for four years. I did interviews about it. I wrote a separate blog about it
I made entire youtube channels about it. It's all still up if anyone wants to see
I also researched a ton on these operations who pays them how they do this
Why they do this the training documents leaked by snowden on jt rig
Were a huge eye opener for me, which is why we did a two-hour presentation on this back in 2019
What any of this has to do
With diane pauline and the situation of her son being incarcerated is beyond me
Yeah, I was wondering that myself. I was trying to understand what the point was
So I'm glad that you were in the same spot as me there
Yeah, I was sitting here thinking I fucking lose the plot
Why like
Diane is like who are these people?
Why are they coming on my sending me emails and like what is all this so she
You know asks me this stuff and I'm like
These people are crazy. There's no other way to describe it. These people are absolutely crazy
And by the way, it's interesting how the moment that I defend myself against their allegations
Because she's claiming that I'm not a veteran and and all these other things
They claim those things are attacks. I'm not going to read all of this because it's just too much
But she's obviously connected with shawn from sgt report and all this other stuff. You guys can
See it if you want just like stop and you can
Screenshare that and just watch it. But these people are insane. Again, these are all emails that are sent to diane
From vp who's now working closely with dustin to apparently destroy me
Diane, please watch this video that dustin posted last night. By the way
I am 100 armenian and the don may jews slaughtered 1.5 billion of my people. I am not a jew
Which she's totally a jew. I don't know if you've seen her photo, but she's a jew
And of course, she's lying now claiming that she's not a jew
We are not done with exposing victor. So please keep your name and your son's name away from victor
Dustin is a good family man. He never slandered anyone victor is gaslighting dustin when in reality victor is the predator a wolf
Hiding in sheep's clothing
Please use your discernment to see what victor has done to people like me
Dustin hope girl james fetzer shawn from sgt report, etc
Only a psychotic person does normal people do not bully and slander and lie about everything about a person
Notice all the people that she noticed here
They're all in fighting. They're all quite literally
You saw the emails dustin calling shawn out shawn calling dustin out and they all call themselves friends
I am grateful. However that I heard about your son's illegal arrest and incarceration on victor's channel
As that is how I was able to take some form of action
I was very happy working with the team to help keenan get released before his plea deal release date
Do you see how she lies? This is october 5th. He's still in jail
According to this woman just like dustin taking victory laps over his victory over you where he uh
Broke you this woman is actually writing to the mother
Telling the mother that she's the one who helped to release her son early
While the son is still in jail. So can you imagine?
Diane is like victor. Who are these crazy people telling me that they helped my son out of jail? He's still not out of jail
I mean, this is insane
She says victor chose to sabotage and prevent the publication of the fruits of this labor and slanders me till this day
Yeah, it's not slander when i'm telling you that you're crazy
Taking victory laps for doing something that you haven't done. It hasn't happened yet. He's not out of prison yet
So yeah, but i'm slandering her the moral of the story is
Son of enos isn't out of jail
They haven't helped him with anything because he's still in jail
And they haven't proven that she's replied to any of their messages, right? That's my takeaway so far
Yeah, i'm understanding this properly
Yeah, and here's uh
Dustin again sending emails to diane. So he's taking credit for these as being 21 emails when they're actually emails that she's not responded to
Okay, i'll give him that she responded way back when I introduced. I did an
Introducted hi diane. I'm introducing you to my friend dustin. Would you like to do an interview?
She responds no right now. It's not safe for me to do an interview
That's it. I introduced him and if you heard earlier
He's the one who claims that he introduced me to her
So right off the bat in his own email
He just proved that he's a liar because he said i'm the one who introduced you to king and son of enos
I'm the one who introduced you to diane
He in his own email. He just proved that he was lying
I mean he didn't even notice that
So here he is october 5th victor is making some very big claims about your state of mind
In his recent podcast about me
Including calling me a false prophet insinuating. I am a pedophile because some random rumor told him so etc
So first he was claiming that I called him a pedophile
There's so many claims out there on the internet that you can see of people claiming that he was a gay stripper
He admits that he worked at a gay club
Uh that he was in jail convicted that he was selling drugs to children and near
I mean all these things
Just like to take a moment and point out that he led with victor is making some very big claims about your state of mind
And then goes on to talk about how he feels he's being attacked and not say what it is that you're actually your state of mind other than
In a panic, which I mean if you're worried about where you're gonna live and trying to get your son out of prison panic seems appropriate
Like saying that someone's panicked about that isn't exactly slander
Right
So what was the big claim?
Can you quote it? Can you provide a link in a timestamp? Like
What is with people not providing receipts everyone says they provide receipts and then when you say okay show me the receipts there are no receipts
That's the thing i'm quite literally showing the receipts
I know we're sitting here reading emails. We've done this a bunch of times before man. I'm familiar with this
But the thing is you see the difference between my emails and his emails
Oh, this is interesting. They're finally realizing that their attempts to get diane to
Turn on me
It's not working. So now they're begging her to get me to stop exposing them. This is interesting
october 5th from vp the one who is now
Working diligently with dust and emos to destroy me
Dear diane, please read the bottom of this screen from victor's presentation
He stated that he would do as you wish and notify me that you no
Longer will be communicating with me due to victor's lies about me that I injured you
I never received such an email
So diane asked me to stop to tell these people to stop because they're harassing her basically
this is digital harassment of a woman who is
really in a desperate state because of her son and
They're all contacting her with this nonsense that you see this in fighting
She doesn't even know who these people are and really she could care less
So they keep sending her even though I told them listen, please stop communicating with her. You're annoying her
I tried to tell her just block these people, but she's
She doesn't know how to block them. I don't know. Anyway
He lied to you. Perhaps he was too busy and didn't have the time to send it. I did
I showed the proof that I did
But the problem is that when I sent you emails after 9 11 20 25 it appeared that I was going against your wishes
By the way, you know, what's weird? Curtis
They say their lies and then I quite literally show the emails
To expose their lies. I don't understand how these people don't realize I've got the evidence
So it's weird. It's like
He lied to you
I quite literally show the email that I sent to her cc'd it to Diane and to Jane Ava Tracy
Telling her to stop
And she's saying this as if Diane is too stupid to remember that I actually sent that email. This is amazing
But the problem is that when you sent the okay Victor and Jane are currently using you and your son to attack people like Dustin and myself
Can you ask Victor to stand down, please?
However, be careful. If you assert yourself with courage, he may rend you as he has done with Dustin and myself
I did help your son's early release due to the notice. However
I just read the email where she's saying that he's still not released and that he still hasn't even had his hearing
So what fantasy world is this VP living in where she's like, I did help your son's early release
Due to the notice. Can you imagine again?
Being Diane reading this going
What? Who is this crazy woman?
You want me to give you credit for helping release my son still in jail you idiot
However, Vic
Yeah, it would be literally counterproductive to say that your son's out of jail when he's not you'd be shooting yourself in the foot
So
This is insane. Yeah
Um, it's it's I mean, it's like and it's all here. See
Dustin doesn't preside
Receipts we're asking them for receipts and he's gone now. He's not even in the chat section because apparently the people in the chat section
The receipt that proved you were a liar who can't be trusted was that you initially got them in touch for a potential
Uh
Interview which you said you're giving them the opportunity to speak and he can see that as you're treating her as an
opportunity
And that was in august and she declined
That that was the entirety of the receipt. That's all there is to it
Yeah
And then he showed no further replies from her regarding him helping allegedly get her son out of prison
He showed emails of him trying to contact her about it. He showed nothing of her replying to him about it
That that's my understanding
And then he called her a liar because of that one
response that she gave in response to my introduction
Now he's claiming she's a liar. I mean this guy is like beyond rude, you know, so okay, uh
However, victor does not know how to read the law
This woman who's not a lawyer claims to
Victor never reads the emails that I explain how I break down piece by piece how the laws are written
Because this means the public sees that he cannot justify trashing me
Why am I going to read these super long emails from this crazy woman?
Who's not even a lawyer? I mean, I I'm busy. I don't have time to read emails from crazy people
How can we now justify jane avatraci continually calling me an ugly jew bitch in the comments when she doesn't even know me
Can you again?
Diane's reading this
Going who is this woman? Like why are you sending me these whining emails?
How can any decent human beings stand by and intentionally cause this level of abuse?
To a person just by clicking a button and forwarding this message to victor
Victor is spreading hatred. So please don't give him ammo. Now. She's telling diane what to do
Diane, please tell me what i've done wrong to you outside of the lies that victor has spewed about me
And again, diane is like not answering these people because these people are crazy
She doesn't want to engage with these people. You can forward this email to victor. It's okay
But please note that you are then knowingly subjecting me to further attacks by this confirmed liar
I am also a mother and a widow. My husband was murdered when I was six months pregnant with my second baby
I don't need sympathy from people that already enjoy attacking me
But diane really you cannot see that victor is pitting us against one another
I have done nothing wrong to you. It is only victor's mouth that spews lies about me, but there is
No evidence capital and oh
Let's all just love each other and get along. Remember
I hope so
It's like these people it's crazy. They're spewing all these lies and stuff
Then they're expecting me to back down because i'm providing evidence
And then they want to talk about love, you know, so these people are absolutely crazy because uh,
I didn't start this but i'm certainly not one to uh back down from the truth
So then dustin emos responds
Don't ask him to stand down. Mind you. This is sent to dust. This is from dustin emos
to vp the woman who claims that she was uh
Left a widow and all this stuff to diane who's like who the hell are these people to the hope girl who
claims that she was like
Attacked by some satanic cult in the uk for some reason and james fetzer who
You were the moderator during the debate and you saw that he went about as well as dustin emos
So dustin emos and james fetzer have that in common which is shown here now that they're all working together
Here it is people. Here's the evidence
That dustin emos james fetzer and all these people have been working together. Okay
Don't ask him to stand down. This is a glorious
implosion
He destroyed his career and exposed himself over my trying to help my friend's mom when he refused
To interview her and sat on it
I didn't but then he got offended and began to spread these lies
Now he's literally spreading hundreds of false statements including calling me a christian pastor and a father of four
And someone who's been fighting against child trafficking professionally since 2017 as a reporter
Who helped bring about the great awakening and the noticing of who's hurting the children them a pedophile
Let him continue. The best way to expose a serpent is to let them speak
I fear no mud. I've exposed over a hundred jews
Pedos or liars who all have bigger audiences than victor and I always win praise yaway
My god the hubris and ego of this guy
Oh, I know I'm very aware. Yeah
Hey dustin if you're listening you always faked gay now that um
And what what the hell does having children have to do with your uh alleged criminal behavior?
You think other pedos haven't had children?
How many of the people on the epstein list have children? That's it's a complete non sequitur has nothing to do with anything
And that's what you see with pretty much everyone in the alleged truth movement
They'll make a statement and then when you ask for what they're using to back that they just
Spelt nonsense
I
Want to get to the ones where where diane clearly states that she trusts me
I mean again if anything dustin, please provide at least an email one
Where she says
Anything like this. I mean she's actually happy that that these people are being exposed. This is quite literally
I've read it before I'll read it again. This is october 6th
Exposed them all
Satanic people
VP sent me another email all caps. She's tired of this people stop digitally harassing his mother
I will forward it to you keep kenny in your prayers this week as he is applying for parole
Again vp. He's applying for parole. He's not out yet. He's still in jail as a matter of fact breaking news people
And I can share this because before the show diane sent me the recording from jail
that she had with
her son
Kenneth Pauline
There was a huge demonstration outside the prison apparently
people are starting to realize
that
People like him who are noticing are being put in jail for noticing
So because there was a big uprising and you can probably read this in the news
People were outside of the jail
That Kenneth Pauline aka son of enos. They had to move him because they were concerned
So he's now being moved and his spirit is being lifted because people are finally rising up
and protesting outside of his prison
But
The reason why this is no moment to celebrate as he was saying in the phone call
Is because they may keep him in there longer now
Because they are using him as an example
Which is why in the emails that I've shared earlier when diane asked can I come on your show?
I want to speak about this. I said no
Not because I don't want you on the show, but because
Anything that you say
This is the crown. This isn't the united states a constitutional republic
This is the british crown. They can do whatever they want
He has been kidnapped and he's being held prisoner
They haven't even like formally charged him with anything and all the charges that they're giving them are nonsense
Because the stuff that he cited was from the bible in the talmud
If you're claiming that the bible in the talmud are hate speech
Which they are
Then that means anybody
Anybody that's reading the bible or the talmud should all be you know kidnapped and thrown in jail
Do you see what i'm saying? So it's like that's the conundrum with this. That's why they have been holding him
I'm just like they held the people in j6 without a hearing without bail. That's what's going on people
So when vp keeps emailing the mother telling her i'm so glad I was able to help your son get out of jail
Hello, did you see the date on that email that vp said here?
This is ten six. He's still in jail
And people are protesting outside of his jail
It's getting to the point where they had to move him and now because they moved him. He says they may be keeping him longer
Well, that's frustrating it's nice to hear that enough people care that they're out protesting
Yeah, and it's not because of dust and nemos. I can tell you that because if dust and nemos really cared
He'd be on this show right now
Doing the right thing and apologizing and saying hey man. Listen, you know what?
This isn't about me. This is about my friend my brother
Kenneth Pauline son of enos. We should be talking about Kenneth Pauline right now and rallying the troops
But his ego and his hubris and his pride this
Narcissist who's been exposed
Look up what a narcissist is you'll notice that at the moment that you confront a narcissist a narcissist with truth
they back down
Because everything that a narcissist has is about distraction
Trying to goad somebody into an argument like James Fetzer did he was successful with me
That's what narcissists do. They try to talk over you like he was doing with Curtis Griffin
With the dust and nemos he Curtis Griffin was trying to say something and he wouldn't let him say something the moment that
Curtis Griffin was starting to talk dust and nemos left
Why because he couldn't handle the truth that Curtis Griffin was about to get to him if you
Share the truth with a narcissist and you show them evidence
That would stand up in a court of law. It's like holding a cross up to a vampire
That's why
I feel bad for Dustin because he has a mental problem. He is mentally disturbed
And I feel that he's dangerous because he's like that guy from Jonestown
Because he's leading a large group of people and they're following a guy who's clearly got a mental disorder
Curtis am I off on this or what's going on here?
Well, I wouldn't say you're off on it, but that's basically the history of religion
I
At the end of the day, no matter which of the major religions you're talking about
They're all extremist
You go read what Jesus actually said. He said sell everything
Give to the poor and follow me
According to Jesus, you should be unmarried and living homeless waiting for the kingdom of god to arrive
That's what he actually said
You couldn't have a functioning society if everyone actually applied that to their life
All three of the major religions are in their own special and unique ways
Like that to begin with and I don't even actually at least
I don't believe that he believes any of it
But again, like you said about his obsession with audience
His audience is the extremist Christian literalist
So he has to always lean into if the book says that it's true
No matter how psychotic it is
That's where you have him saying that the nine-year-old girl should be stoned to death
Can you repeat that about his audience because that's pretty telling what you just said
Which part that he uh, he's appealing to people who are Christian literalists where the whole book has to be true
Yeah, yeah, that's the uh, the Christian groups that would claim that it is the univocal word of god
And it's the complete truth or whatever else
so
Yes, I I am a godless man. Thank you for noticing
Who says that? Oh someone in the comments
Oh, yeah, scooting if the alleged creator of the universe requires anything other than my moral behavior
It's not worth worshiping in the first place
anything else
Well, the thing is if you're worshiping the god that Dustin worships my god
I don't know what to say
That was very interesting. There was someone in the comments accusing Dustin of being a Gnostic
But Dustin is constantly praising Yahweh and the Gnostics would have referred to Yahweh as the Demiurge or Yelda Beyo
They actually believed that the creator of the world we're experiencing was inherently evil
And was essentially using this world as a luke harvesting far
By the way, I just want to reiterate to people this was the message today
From Diane Pauline looking forward to your live tonight. See who who shows up. Thanks for all you do
You are appreciated. Stay strong. God has this exposing is always needed Diane
So she is glad and as a matter of fact today in the conversation
That uh, Dustin, please provide me with any evidence
Could you back to that last one, please?
Yeah, yeah, sure. Um, Dustin, if you can please provide me with any conversations that you have been privy to that are
Taking place
with Kenan because again, you claim to be so close to them, but
Where's the proof brother? Just like all we're asking for is proof
To validate your claims
I mean, uh, here it is right here. Look this right here
Call 2025 10 71
I'm not going to play it for you guys because there's a thing called confidentiality
But I am sharing with you that he did say that he was moved from his prison today
Because of the people that were protesting and you could hear it in his voice
How he was very excited to see that the reason why they moved him out was because of that because now people are saying
Wow, you know, like no, he's finally getting to ask a question
Yeah, how did she send that to oh, it's because you're in Tbilisi
Isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was wondering how she sent it on the eight
That's got to be like five or six in the morning where you are
Curtis they get mad at me because I stay up late and I do these marathon live streams
The thing is Curtis the truth
Takes time like you notice you were asking Dustin provide the evidence
But all he did was provide lip service
That's all he does when you see the videos. It's just him talking talking talking, but
I take the time to actually put the emails together to make sure that she's maintaining her privacy
To number them in order like this takes time. Yeah, it takes a lot of work
When you go to this to provide evidence him with his uh
His
Fuckin the Europeans are the real Israelites horse shit
like
For the record that siob is basically we was Kang's for 75 iq bible bell trash
um
That's what it is
and
It's ridiculous and you had him and brandon crawl on your show a couple months ago saying that shit
And they were saying yes the real archaeology proves and then they make a bunch of assertions
At no point in the two hour show did they name a single researcher a single dig site a single find
To back their claim. They just said the real archaeology and left it at that
And and that's what people will go to the comments be like man
It's so impressive what great knowledge these guys have
It's really pathetic what people are willing to accept is proof
Well, I noticed that the first time that dustin
Ran off like a rat on a sinking ship
Was when I showed him the email from diane pauline
Stating that she was going to forward me the e-mails
Because he knew that it was going to expose
Sean from sgt. Report and destiny most with their infighting
And his connection to james fetzer and hope girl and how he's tied in to these controlled opposition
So again, here's diane pauline in her own words stating expose them all satanic people
And when she spoke to
Her son today in prison. She said by the way son
Thank you. You and victor are both exposing these people
And what teneth pauline said was you know what mom if that's why it was that I had to be in here
So that the truth could come out and all these people could be exposed
Well, then so be it and he was laughing he was cheerful
This was the first time I'd heard
Kenneth pauline in a good mood because people were gathered outside the prison saying, you know set him free
They moved him out and then his mother calls him with the good news. Yeah
Tonight i'm going to be listening in on the debate because victor hugo is going to be exposing dust and emos and all these other controlled opposition
And and he was like wow, that's great, you know, so
I have the tapes and i'm not going to play them for you now
But when kenneth comes out and when diane is out and they're both together and it's safe to do so
Yes, then I will play these tapes for you and everything like that
But no see dustin wants this he wants the followers you heard him
He's like, oh you've lost a hundred followers those hundred followers were people who sent me messages saying we're unsubscribing from your channel because
You're being so mean to dustin
You know what I feel sorry for you people if you follow this guy who's obviously uh warped
Then maybe you shouldn't be following my channel. I don't know. You know like i'm sorry, but
A hundred people leaving that's okay. I'll probably have like a thousand more after that
Because eventually people are going to realize this guy is like evil again
Now he's calling diane polina liar because she's
Saying expose them all
Again thanks again for your friendship and loyalty to my son. I didn't write did you hear what he said?
He says i'm the one making these things up that this that somehow I have the capacity
Curtis how stupid am I when it comes to computers did I or did I not ask you for help and that's how you and I
Even developed what I still consider a friendship. I hope uh, you don't mind if I call you a friend, but uh, that's fine
Yeah, you're fairly technologically illiterate. I don't know how the hell would I know how to do this man?
It's like do you think
Would I you know how long would it take me to make up all these emails?
And to like do all this like how long do you think it would take i'm not saying it's impossible
But you know me I couldn't oh no
That would actually be very easy to fake because it's all text right
Like all you need to do is make an account with uh the dp initials or just generate that image
And then you could just type in blue text the name
Like yeah, a text image is very easy to doctor, but that goes both ways. It's the same with the dustin's alleged proof
It's the problem with trying to claim you can prove anything anymore
Yeah, I mean it's just incredible anyway people will know because diane will be on the show
But when it's safe people right now, it's not safe
So this is from uh, jane ava tracy. She says good for diane that she is investigating these lunatics and doing her homework
She herself is reading and seeing the lies they are spreading
It is not the same truth unless you see and read it for yourself
She is informed on who the real enemies are to her and kenan's safety
dustin wants money and vp pinkston wants fame
With being associated with kenan
They both will get neither since diane can see right through both of them that vp vartu pinkston is such a scumbag
And dustin is such a lying satanic
Christian
Yeah, I mean I can read more comments to you people are noticing what's going on again another one with diane polin
I'm trusting my instincts. Who's this hope girl?
like
She's spreading lies like you refuse to interview me and so on I only trust you
Despite what everyone is saying again
Trust is earned people and these people have not earned her trust
Nor will they because these people are are lying
So again, I'm just showing you these and uh, uh, when she comes on the show, she'll verify that these are true
Um, you read any comments here that are interesting dustin was upset that diane chose you victor period
Um, you know, it's not even a pissing contest. This is about getting uh, uh
This guy had a jail for noticing and the reason being is because it could happen to anybody
That's what's so sad about this. How did this turn into a he's my friend not your
And also if the concern is that
Diane doing interviews while he's still in prison is going to extend his time in jail
and you're claiming that he's connected to uh
To all these other shills like stu peters
Is it possible the point is they're trying to get her to show up on a show for that exact reason
Yeah, these people are all connected and they're all working together
Obviously that's speculation. I don't know that as an absolute fact and i'm going to hedge that
But it's interesting to consider
By the way, jeff burwick who uh
I've been on his show
Or he's been on my show rather and I communicate with him. He's one of the people that I uh
Trust I I always give people the benefit of the doubt Curtis. I don't know about you
But I can't go through life. Just not trusting everybody. I'm not going to be a paranoid guy
Living underneath my couch and just like saying everybody's evil, you know, it hurt me when I heard
Uh, uh, Dustin Nemo say that he was never my friend. I was like, wow, so this guy's a two-faced. That's kind of weird
um, no offense, but when I was uh
I want to say working with you because that was work. I had a good time
I laughed a lot with you people really enjoyed it
And we had a lot of good off-camera conversations before and after calls and stuff. Yeah, we got along just fine
Doesn't mean I agree with everything you ever said
Sometimes I didn't bother to point it out because it wasn't worth the time
but like
The last video we did with you me and Darren when you were talking about like the deep underground military bases
And I said, well, why do you believe that and you said well all these people going missing in public parks
And I like well that doesn't really prove what you're claiming
Because there's an infinite number of ways people could go missing in those parks without the necessity of the deep underground base
That doesn't prove that those don't exist definitively either
It's just what you're claiming is the evidence isn't really proof of your thesis, right?
And yeah, absolutely fair and and I accept that that's why when you and I would have these shows
We would agree to disagree and that's what makes
And this has been
A driving point from the moment we ever met was my constant demand people need to demand
Better proof if you're claiming to be out here in the truth movement
You shouldn't just be biting at everything that's thrown out in front of you
How many of these losers out here talking about like you need to raise your fucking vibration level?
Okay, vibration of what what's the frequency? How many hurts is it?
How do you measure that what the fuck are you even talking about?
And you watch the deer in the headlights look when you start saying that to them
Well, that's how I can see these people
Because if you get the deer in the headlights look and they can't provide you with the answers
And instead what they start doing is attacking you and you'll notice that that happened
The moment that dustin came on he came on like a freight train
Didn't even really acknowledge you except for saying yeah, I broke you he had to get that in
You know he had to get that in it's like
Wow, there's there's no
Decency with this man. I don't understand again his god Yahweh
What a horrible what a horrible god. No wonder like you said he's all about like
torturing children and having children
Be punished in that way. I mean it's just horrible the god that this man
He just said that little girls should be stoned to death if they're raped and no one heard them scream
And that virgins who are raped should be forced to marry their attacker
Like, you know, he just said that checkmate. It's in his book. He wins. That's how it works. It's in the book
So let's hear what Jeff Burwick has to say about what's going on
some people like Candace Owens
Who's amazing?
Can you pause for a sec? I just
Frank noble gbg bfe. It's not vibration curve. It's vibration level spelt incorrectly
Like ground level and sea level fella
Okay
How exactly does vibration have a fucking level?
Like ground level and sea measurable and sea level are heights. They're distances from something
That's what you're basing it on
Frequency refers to how often something oscillates. So like if you're talking about alternating current power
60 hertz is that in one second you get 60 full wave size
That's what a frequency is. There's no such thing as a frequency level. You're just wrong
Sorry, yeah, that's okay. That's the thing
The ego and the pride get in the way
Rather than people acknowledging
If that was meant as a joke, you got me. It's just I've heard so much shit
That's more insane than that as people like trying to checkmate. I know more than you that maybe I misread that
Where are you seeing that big? Yeah big up. Yes
Someone said way to parse a joker. It's and it's possible. I might have just misunderstood because this is text
It's hard to tell if someone's joking
Yeah, I really wish Dustin would have stayed that's a shame, but what do you think was it
Was it better that he left or that he stayed? How do you how do you think it would have gone if he would have stayed?
Would would he have acknowledged these emails from diane?
No, no, they're all photoshop, but his ones that look like they were jumbled together and ms paint are totally real
Trust me bro. I never lie
So I don't think this was ever gonna
Work out right because basically what was supposed to happen was I was just supposed to shut up and let him
Railroad me just like basically james fetzer. He wanted to pull a james fetzer on this is what he wanted to do
More or less or like I said if you did strict five minute segments
He was just going to use his to make a ridiculous number of assertions that you couldn't possibly argue against in your five minutes
And then claim that you failed to disprove those points. Therefore checkmate
um, that that's how all these grifting losers act. It's not new and
It's why I say that, you know, live public debates aren't really the way you should argue
So here's pilgrim's place says curtis. You are sounding like dustin now. Okay, you're humble apology works dusty can't do that
Wait, then how am I sounding like dustin if he can't do that? And I can wouldn't that mean we don't sound like each other?
That's a little confusing
Yeah, that is a bit confusing. I'm not sure what's where that's wait curtis
I'm like dustin again. She did you say that you never lie?
I was paraphrasing dustin, but I did say those words
That was oh, wow. See people are taking things out of context now
That or they're joking too again. He might just be having fun. Okay. All right
Okay, here we go. Oh and frank noble g. All right. So it's interesting the chat's got its own thing going on there
Some people like Candace Owens
Who's a mason took her Carlson who's a mason and cia
to say some of the truth
So that people go oh at least
We're getting the truth from these people. No, you're not you're getting some truth
It's like albert pike said
If you want a leader we should we will supply them
So, yeah, dustin emos gives you some truth
But then he gives you all sorts of other stuff which is completely dangerous and it's just like albert pike
He's the leader of a congregation and boy. Is that dangerous?
So I would say list of the cute people
Well, it's starting to rain now
Like he keeps doing super evil stuff at what point
Like at what point do you kind of say?
Do you kind of realize
That he's not the good guy and you've actually been fooled
I don't feel bad if he was fooled. Everyone gets fooled
Yeah, so Curtis at what point do you think the people that are still
believing in uh, this guy dustin emos will realize that he's really
Not to be trusted. There's no other way of saying it
It depends because there's going to be a lot of people where as long
Just like any of the other grifters as long as they're saying the parts that can form to someone's
confirmation bias enough
They're going to put aside the other things because they like listening to it
Tell me the things I want to hear that's how most of the people over here are
And when you look into this guy's past the things that he's been arrested for and convicted of
Are not good things
Like son of emos now has an arrest and a conviction. I get it
But when you compare what son of emos did which was just noticing
to what
Dustin kreger did
It's night and day
And that's the sad part about what's happening is that there's really good people who are
Convicted that that requires clarification as well. Was he convicted or was he arrested because those aren't the same thing
No, this guy dustin emos has been convicted
Of what?
Apparently selling drugs near a school and a bunch of other things
Okay, you know what state that was in
Just type in dustin kreger
And you'll find it online. It's a whole bunch of stuff
That's why when when he was like that I said this and I said that no
That's part of the stuff that people have said and that he's even admitted because he said he was on an x
And I have it he came on my show afterwards and was crying about it quite literally he was
Crying did you see when he started crying today by the way? That was weird
Yeah
Like one minute he's crying and then the next minute he's like smiling. I don't know how that happens
It's like
That's kind of tough. I thought it was meant to be like a showy act
I thought he was making fun when he did it. Maybe I was misreading that though
Is that the way he pretends to cry when he's talking about those poor kids on Epstein island?
Yeah, by the way, did you see this as you chose to for some reason and take on the best
Debater of our era in a debate
I don't know how he can consider himself the best debater of our era. He took off twice
Well more importantly, what would constitute victory?
What would actually be the objective thing that proves whether you won or lost a debate?
He broke you
Well, my point is if you don't have a definitive line
Then you can always just claim that you won
That's how most of these alleged online debates go. It's just
People claiming that they won
Both sides. They always walk away claiming that they won over the other
You see it all the time
That's
So oh by the way, just so people know what uh vp looks like, uh, this is vp
the one who is uh trying to take credit for uh,
Kenneth Pauline being out of jail. It's this one right here. I'll I'll not uh,
Bring the other person in but yeah this one and with the schnaz like that. She's claiming not to be a jew
But anyway, this person's trouble. She's an agitator
She she she might not be a jew victor. She might be a goblin
Yeah, she looks like a goblin. She's definitely she's a goblin wearing tan, uh body paint to cover up the green
By the way, we're gonna we're gonna end this up. I thank you so much for uh joining
Being a part of this. It's uh, good to see you again. And uh, like I said, I apologize. You were absolutely right
Uh, I was wrong about dust and nemos. I had to find out the wrong or the the hard way sometimes that happens
But better I find out now than later. These are the things that he's been uh posting online
If you want to see the videos, I'll even share them on my channel
Because I want you to see I think this is important for you to see the way that this man lies
He puts this on his nemo's news network and sends it out to everybody
Victor Hugo Vaca jr. It got weird fast
And then he just goes on and talks for like
Half an hour to 45 minutes to an hour
And no evidence except for those weird emails that he took out of
Uh context and he purposefully blotted out things and it just is it's so deceptive
Uh, yeah, so Victor Hugo
He's claiming that I am a jew now. I don't know. Uh, so there's that. Um
There's more
Yeah
Ever everyone who disagrees with me is a jew you see that everywhere in this community as well
like you'll actually um
There are like neo-nazi forums that actually have rules against jew painting people because it's so prevalent
The moment two guys in the community disagree they both start pointing at each other and shrieking jew
So it's everywhere man. Everyone's a fucking jew
One thing that's been exposed to and this is what's interesting again with Kenneth Pauline son of enos being in jail
He's exposed so many people and like I said, it was it was so
Nice to hear his voice from jail. He he he was he was like you could tell that he felt
strong he said even if they increase my sentence he goes I know that I'm exposing people so I was like man
That's great. You know, so he's all and he's not done by the way
Uh, he's not I didn't think he would be
He's not done. He's coming out and he's going to be stronger than ever
So they made a mistake and thank you to everybody who supported him and who's rallied behind him
and thank you to everybody who showed up to the jail today that was major and uh
Who knows maybe they may release him earlier because of what just happened
Maybe they'll keep him longer to set an example, but uh, we'll see
Anyway, he also exposed
um
stupe Peters
Because I contacted stupe Peters immediately and said hey stu my friend is in jail
Can you report something about that same thing with Mike Adams all these people who claim to be free speech
They've all been silent
And that's why I was telling Dustin Nemo
So I'm like show me the evidence that you've contacted other people you he has a long list of contacts
He hasn't contacted anybody. He hasn't done anything. That's the whole thing
He had his chance today to provide me with evidence. He didn't provide any evidence. So here's the evidence. I contacted
Zachary Winkle who's the producer over at the stu Peters network for the vaccine police show
He did a hit piece with uh, james fetzer for over two hours
where james fetzer later admitted that he went on there and used
a
satire the same exact satire that he used during the debate
Where you were moderator curtis where he was reading from a script that he wrote
And saying and win young said I would never do and victor hugo said and he was like totally taking
My voice
It wasn't my voice and he was making shit up basically and then he admitted it was satire
He goes on the stu Peters network
reads the exact same thing verbatim
So I contacted the producer. I said hey listen
I sent them the clip of the debate that you were moderating. I sent them that part
I go does that sound familiar to you?
I said he's just reading from a script that he then admitted was satire
And then I sent him the clip of him laughing
With his mates on the fetzer show after he left early remember he left an you know, I gotta leave
And he said yeah, I read this and I didn't tell them that it was satire
Again, he didn't tell the people uh to stu Peters network that it was satire. They believed it was fact
So I said Zachary
This guy's just turned your channel into the comedy central
It's supposed to be like news and information and you're letting them read comedy on your channel as fact
So they were like, oh, well, you can come on the show and we'll you know
Allow you to do that. Haven't heard back from them. So anyway, uh,
This is that Zachary Winkle says victor your emails are heavy on outrage
But light on substance you're upset about fexer's claims on our sandy hook show
Particularly regarding your late father. Yeah, because james fexer was on the show claiming that
I had a 16 page rap sheet
And I've never been convicted of anything
So how could I have a 16 page rap sheet? Anyway, it turns out that that's another
Made-up thing and he admitted and I sent him the the clip from it
The police he says, can you verify this rap sheet? The police said no, it's a fraudulent rap sheet
We can't verify this this man has never been convicted of anything. So
James fexer went on the show knowing
That he had false information and he started telling them that my father
who's dead
Has a 16 page rap sheet and that he confused me with my father with the 86 years old and facelifts at botox and stuff
And they never pushed back on him. They never said anything. They just accepted it as fact
So, I mean, it's just unbelievable how, uh,
He's desecrating my dead father and all this stuff. It's just ridiculous
You were going to say something because I was thinking that it was one of those rubber CIA masks you got going on
Yeah, so then so he goes we acknowledged that fexer's rap sheet rant was inappropriate
And we should have challenged his satire claim live at the 32 mark
However, our policy is to let guests speak unfiltered
Which you also benefited from during your appearance
Now see this is the problem curtis like you said if you have a five minute debate
And these shows usually have people on for about five minutes
That means if you don't push back on these people
Then they spew five minutes worth of lies and then drop the mic and say goodbye
And then everybody that just heard them goes oh, wow that guy was on the stu peters network
He must be an expert. It must be true
See, this is the problem that I see with these shows. Nobody pushes back curtis
Well, I've even had that criticism when you have people on your own show where people will be something like, uh
Copperplate Karen like I've been taken to the stargate by the military
Hold on. Didn't you just say that the government was undermining the alleged true government?
And now that same government is taking you to meet these people. Why would they be enabling you?
None of this makes any fucking sense
Right. Well, yeah, I mean you don't ask that. You're not like hold the fuck on
Yeah, yeah
I'm just gonna walk past that like you didn't just say what you just said
Yeah, guilty is charged. Absolutely. You're right. Yeah, I'm guilty of that sometimes sometimes guests will come on
And they'll just ramble on and I don't push back on them. I need to start doing that more
So be aware guests if you come on the show
I'm going to start practicing what I preach and I'm going to start pushing back on some of these
Things that people say. All right, so let's see. Um, he says, uh
Your full segment aired unedited on rumble, which is interesting because he didn't air it on the stoopeders network
He aired it on some small channel the christopher key. I get way more views than christopher key does so
again
Uh, uh misinformation disinformation here. He says your evidence against fetzer 2011 and 2019 blog post bit shoe clips
And 10 000 to 20 000 challenge lacks credibility
grainy photos and unverified claims from james fetzer don't constitute proof
Which is interesting because now he's pushing back on what i'm providing him as proof
Meanwhile, the whole two hours that james fetzer was on he never provided anything and he never pushed back these people or something
Uh, he says, um, yeah, you've provided no verifiable evidence to counter fetzer's claims or substantiate your own
Your personal attacks like calling christopher handicapped and cuck key undermine your credibility and mirror the unprofessional slurs
from jh
Sterling I appreciate your call for unity and offered to mediate victor
We accept your live stream invitation name the time and platform unfiltered with the audience q&a
Christopher is prepared to address your claims directly
Regarding your mention of fetzer's confession screenshot and hope girl's alleged mockery
Provide the screenshot and specific links. We won't chase vague allegations
We're committed to transparency and facts bring hard evidence not recycled blogs or rants
Our audience deserves clarity not drama
Stoopeders won't be joining as his focus remains on broader network priorities
So realize
This is out there. I've contacted him again
No response. The only response I got from him was that he was going to report
Jane Ava Tracy who sends out press releases
To I don't know which authorities because he claims that it's spam
So now here is a uh producer of news on the stoopeders network
trying to shut down press releases instead of
Going from what he's saying here. Okay. Let's do this
So i'm making this public because people need to see what goes on behind the scenes of these shows
Where these people say one thing and then they do another
So zachery. I'm calling you out christopher key. I'm calling you out. Let's do this. You've said we were going to do this
I'm going to respond and share that response as well
So, uh, let me see should I even read this dear christopher with friends like fetzer and hope girl who needs enemies
Your buddy fetzer has publicly used you to make a mockery of the stoopeders network
As previously mentioned, you're welcome to come on my live stream next week
To discuss how you and zachery allowed this trolling by fetzer to happen
Even after I warned you guys you can take questions from the audience as well
Who are watching this drama unfold stoopeders is also welcome on the show to address how he plans on dealing with the damage done
To the credibility of the stoopeders network because ignoring it will not make it go away
As you can see fetzer is taking a victory lap and will continue to do so if unchallenged
Congratulations christopher and zachery the stoopeders network just got trolled by the reputation wrecking ball james fetzer
Jane will be putting out a press release to announce my respectful imitation
To have christopher key and stoopeders on my live stream next week to do damage control
Whenever is most convenient for everyone and I will personally pass along the press release to stoopeders
So he knows i've made this off for public the stoopeders
Network will be welcome on record to show for you
To air on the stoopeders network if you wish to counter the fetzer video
That is currently up on the stoopeders network like a pimple on the channel's nose
For the world to see how fetzer turned the stoopeders network into comedy central
using his admitted satire
And 16 page rap sheet that the florida police refused to acknowledge as being authentic and factual
While the stoopeders network still has the lies and slander posted as fact without alerting the audience
That the stoopeders network was trolled by jim fetzer in his own loading admission
So that's the latest that's next up
stoopeders is
Being exposed and it's incredible how all these people are being exposed kurtis
So thank you because you've been a part of all this stuff
Can I just add something there? You got me thinking about it while you were reading that
I'm really sick to death of people calling for unity and complaining that people are causing
division
Because if you're actually claiming to be a truth community and you have two groups of people saying different things
They can't both be true
So one of them has to be wrong
You actually care about truth than the alleged truth community should be a figurative pit fight not a circle jerk
It's not about you
Yeah, and you you've said that you said that before as a guest on my show
Which is why people really appreciated you being on the show and they were really disheartened when you and I
Had that falling out. So to me I have
I'm feeling very happy today first like I said to hear my friend kenneth polin in jail
Talking to his mother telling him that he's so excited because
They had to move him out of the jail because people are outside protesting
And he doesn't care if they keep him in longer because he knows that now
Something is happening and when he gets out he's going to be bigger and stronger and just wait. He's telling her
I've got all these great ideas in my mind
And she knows she told him about this debate today with dustin neemose and he's like wow
That's really great. So this is good and then to see you come back on the show after
Thanks to eric bosheny for making this possible
And thanks to you for showing the courage and the strength to forgive me and to
Come back on the show and when I say forgive me, it's because I asked
I apologize to him for um, you know, uh warning me about
dust and neemose and my failure that doesn't mean I still
Uh
Wasn't a bit upset with the manner in which he dealt with that. I do think that he could have
Delt with it in a different way instead of coming out with a an attack video on you know, I haven't seen that by the way
Just so you know, no the the attack video
You should because I don't know whether you're referring to my response to you
And what you said or you're talking about the one where I was responding to you and brandon kroll
Because there were two parts. There was a part where
I saw the one where you were calling brandon kroll and I a faggot and faggots and this and that
We actually the seed wars and the nephilim and the book of you know, okay another pile of jewish fairy tales
I haven't
I haven't seen one where you have like cover
I'm thinking oh, yeah, where did you get hurt? That's one that people keep
Psychic reasons why I filled out a butthurt report. Yeah. Yeah, you know
That makes me a faggot
Well, yeah, if you're if you're out here talking about nonsense that you have no proof for yeah
That's the the slur we used to kind of hand wave away those people. That's what we say about it here
That's what we do when we do dumpster dives. That's how it is if you're gonna spell nonsense
You're an equally viable target. Maybe one day you and I can go through that together then you can uh
And watch that and we'll we'll dissect it, but at least give me an opportunity to defend myself
I've been you would so busy
I I don't have time to watch all these hit pieces that that are out there everything from me being
You saw it when I went on that free mind music that guy's got videos of me the whole channel
It's me. I don't have time to watch all the videos people
But thank you for making them because it does drive people to my channel. It's free publicity
But yeah, if you want to do that sometime, but we'll go through it and you know, give me an opportunity to
Rebut whatever it is. You're calling me faggot and stuff like that, but I I have a sense of
Yeah, we can do that sometime you have to have thick skin if you're gonna be in this arena people
This is not the land for pussies and what Curtis said is absolutely true
How can I be united with Dustin at this point? I can't
I can't see it. I don't agree with him. He's he's a narcissist
And he's out of control. That's the way I see it and I'm not going to give him a platform to spew his nonsense
And that is kind of the point I was trying to make if you're actually saying what you're trying to find is truth
You shouldn't be having allegiances with people
It should be a bit first and foremost to trying to find out what's true and nothing else
And if someone you previously liked starts spouting nonsense
You shouldn't let that friendship stand in the way of calling that out
Or you're letting your personal life get in the way of what's more important
And that's the problem and why we're in this state when I see uh, donald trump sitting next to mark zuckerberg
who
censored him on facebook and
paid to rig the election
And then melania trump next to bill gates who's poisoning people all over the world and
depopulating the planet
And then I see albert borla
Shaking hands with rfk jr. I'm like wait a minute
What's going on here? This is
Completely wrong. You guys may be friends
But if your friend is a serial killer or if your friend is a pedophile, you need to call them out people
I told you from the beginning. It's all kayfabe man. Of course. That's what's going on. Those people don't actually dislike even when they were like spouting, you know
Clippable sound bites about each other behind closed doors. They don't care. It's a stage show
The into it's the same with all these leaks where an alleged photographer gets a photo of someone's cell phone at the white house
Do you really think they don't have good enough security to control the
Reporters and make sure they don't have an angle on people's phones
Like do you really think security is that in cobiton? It's not a wonderful leak from some photographer. It was planned
They drafted up that letter. They had the guys put it on his phone
They deliberately positioned him so he'd have the photographer behind him
like
It's all a clown show
And people need to get that through their heads
Can you explain what kayfabe is?
Oh, kayfabe is a wrestling term. It's uh, it's a rearranging of the letters for the words be fake
Oh, and
kayfabe was because
In like early 20th century
wrestling when it was frequently done at circuses and things
quickly the newspapers realized that
People cared about the drama. They didn't actually care about the sportsmanship. Like it wasn't a contest. They cared about
The storylines and things about beef between different wrestlers and things
And that's how you get the evolution to today of modern wrestling where it's just a stage show with roided up dudes and tights
Um, that's what it is
But the point is that
If you have fans watching who still believe in it
You have to know to keep up your character
Because it's not like going to see a normal piece of theater where the act ends when you walk off the stage after your bow
If you have a specific wrestling persona, you're expected to keep that up at all times
So if you're out in public, you still need to be acting like your character
Um
Hence kayfabe was a code word to let someone know that there were potentially fans watching and they had to maintain the act
Whereas you go backstage and you might have the faces and he was sitting around drinking beer and chatting with each other
Because like they rehearse these shows in advance. It's all planned. They train together like they're friends
But when they're out in the ring, they've got to maintain an act. That's kayfabe
Behind closed doors all these politicians and CEOs
They're all working together
The the public disagreement is an act that
That's what ritual magic is in essence
You're telling the story that people have to hear in order to believe the next step you're trying to roll out to
Wow
You know what's interesting kurtis?
We're living in a world right now where nobody knows what to believe
And I suspect that certain people will be believing that this whole thing between dust and and I
And you also because I already saw comments saying it. Yeah, no, there are people saying that this is orchestrated
We've completely orchestrated this
People are saying that in the comments
Really and I saw before I came on the show today. I saw that in the comments that it was fake
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't it wasn't the majority but people said it and
It's something you basically can't disprove either
like
How can I possibly prove to you that this isn't fake? I can't
Wow
So that doesn't give us much hope
Because I'll tell you what nobody knows what to believe if nobody knows who to trust
It turns out when people tell you that they're your friends. They're lying. They're just waiting for the opportunity to backstab you
I don't know how
We can survive in a world like this. It it kind of makes me a little bit sad
Yeah, but that's
Another trap people fall into they're like, where's the whole bow you sound blackpilt?
What if you actually are in an awful situation?
Should you not recognize it just because it's negative? Yeah, things are awful
um
I mean the first noble truth from buddha was existence is suffering
And that's not meant to be blackpilled exactly. It's that
Like you're gonna get old your joints are gonna hurt you're gonna die
You're gonna go through phases where you're hungry. You might be homeless
like
The very nature of what this world is you're going to experience suffering
Period
But when you've got over the idea that that's not the way things are supposed to be you don't resent it anymore
You don't take it personally
And you can get over it like yeah, things are gonna suck sometimes. Oh well
And so
One of the things that causes the most harm to people is an assumption
That there's a specific way things are supposed to be
Because then anytime the world doesn't conform to that preconceived notion they get bent out of shape about it
And that's never helpful or healthy
Stop trying to make the world conform to what you want it to be and just acknowledge it for what it is
Yeah, almost everyone in the public media is fake
Yeah, most of your politicians are probably on the agapstein island list
And most people don't care until it starts to affect their personal love
It's the cards we were dealt it's where we're at
Well
Thanks again
Thanks to all of you out there. Thanks layla decker. Thanks antichrist productions. Look forward to hosting you soon warrior in the garden
Is coming on uh soon
Also, uh, thank you
South crates. I uh look forward to having you on the show again and uh
Pilgrims place says this is a battle for the men. I believe there remains a difference in roles
You did a fine job of dealing with dustin and before I leave. I wanted to say thanks for your help
You're welcome everybody and uh, this was
for me
A kind of a roller coaster ride of a day on the one hand. I'm happy to be reunited with kurtis griffin
it shows me that uh
Forgiveness is not a weakness and neither is apologies
Um, it reminds me of the good times and the laughs that I shared with kurtis griffin
I also was really happy to hear my friend kenneth polin
behind bars with such joy
finally people are
protesting in front of the jail
Which is what we were hoping would happen if stu peters mike adams alex jones and everybody in the first
Week that he was arrested had all just
Talked about it. This could have happened a hundred days ago, but for whatever reason
like
uh, kenneth was saying
This was meant to be mom
I had to be here. I had to go through this and
To hear him say all the cool things that he's got planned for the future gives me hope
Because whatever he's been through he's coming out and he's not going down and he's not gonna shut up
So that's great. And uh, I'm glad that uh, dustin emos was exposed
As much as I thought of him as a friend
I will still pray for him because I do believe in the power of prayer
More so i'm praying for those who are his followers
Because he's a dangerous man like donald trump is
And uh, I was wrong about trump. I was wrong about dustin emos, but i'm right about you out there
Thank you all for uh staying through this marathon and going through all of this. Thank you again kurtis
Remember everybody united we stand divided we fall
Never give up
Never surrender keep shining live love
flow