U.S. operation in Iran now coming from Secretary of State Marco Rubio, saying that operations
would conclude at the appropriate time, but it would be weeks, not months.
He said that negotiations had not begun in earnest, but that the U.S. had exchanged messages
with Iran and received indications from the Iranians about a willingness to talk.
And still in the background is the possibility of U.S. boots on the ground.
Rubio, though, said that the U.S. could achieve its goals in Iran without any ground troops.
That came after the U.S. delayed a threat to attack Iran's energy infrastructure to the 6th of April.
The U.S. president said the deadline extension request came from Tehran.
Donald Trump added that talks were going very well.
But Iran's leadership says the peace proposal floated by Washington was excessive and unfair.
Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city of Van near the Iran border.
Iran has not confirmed publicly that it is in direct negotiations with the United States,
but it's understood that back-channel talks are being held between Washington and Tehran
with various countries involved in conveying messages back and forth, including Egypt, Pakistan and Turkey.
According to reports in the Wall Street Journal,
Donald Trump is considering sending another 10,000 ground troops to the Middle East
ahead of a possible incursion into Iran on top of the more than 3,000 soldiers
already on their way to the Gulf.
A report from the OECD predicts the UK economy will be hit harder than any other industrialised nation
due to the conflict in the Middle East, with inflation expected to spike and the jobs market weaken.
Stuart Smith has more from London.
Goods and services are likely to get much more expensive much more quickly
as the U.S. and Israeli war with Iran drags on
and the United Kingdom is going to be particularly hard hit according to the OECD's analysis.
Inflation was predicted to be 2.5% this year but is now forecast to be 4%.
That will impact UK growth more than similar nations like Italy, France and Germany
who analysts say are less exposed to energy shocks.
For London that means a predicted 40% decrease in annual growth this year,
even if oil and commodity prices stabilised by summer.
The think tank claims efforts to increase domestic energy use
and rely less on imported fuels should help.
The UK government says it's already doing that but opposition parties claim
the disproportionate impact of the war on the British economy
is evidence that the government's policies aren't working.
The International Olympic Committee this week banned transgender women from Olympic competition
saying the new policy promotes fairness.
The eligibility change comes after U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order last year
banning transgender girls and women from competing in female sports
ahead of the 2028 Los Angeles Summer Games. Tony Waterman reports.
Under the new policy, only biological females will be allowed to compete in the Olympics
starting in 2028. Their sex will be determined by a mandatory one-time genetic test.
IOC president, Kirstie Coventry, said the decision was based on science
which she says shows males have a performance advantage in sports
that rely on strength, power and endurance.
At the Olympic Games, even the smallest margins can be the difference between victory and defeat
so it's absolutely clear that it would not be fair for biological males to compete in the female category.
It's unclear how many, if any, athletes may be impacted.
The IOC says these individuals would still be eligible to compete in the male competitions.
And finally there was some good news this week
an endangered mountain gorilla has given birth to twins
in the east of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Conservationists say twin births are very rare in mountain gorillas.
Chris Otmeringer has more from Kinshasa.
Park Rangers at the Virunga National Park found a gorilla nursing twins
deep in the dense rainforest in the east of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
The female gorilla from the Baraka family delivered a female and a male baby.
Experts say twins are extremely rare in mountain gorillas
accounting for less than 1% of births.
Park Rangers are monitoring them to ensure they grow into adults.
The Virunga National Park is a very dangerous place for wild animals and park rangers
because many rebels and poachers operate in the area.
The twins' birth comes two months after another gorilla delivered twins.
From Feature Story News, in New York, I'm Mitch McCann and that was the Week in Review.
The FBI has successfully executed a raid on the Visa Corporation
exposing what could be the largest credit card scam in U.S. history.
According to authorities, the Visa Syndicate for years fooled millions of Americans
by issuing convincing-looking credit cards carefully designed to dupe consumers
into spending far more money than they had.
Investigators believe the Fraudulent Corporation also lured victims in
with enticing rewards programs and free gifts,
thereby trapping them in a spiral of death they could never hope to repay.
According to the results of a groundbreaking news study,
96% of humans would rather be a singing, dancing, animatronic bear.
The study finds that a great majority of people on the planet
would prefer to trade in their regular lives
for one in which they sat on a plastic log, strummed a banjo,
and sang songs on a stage with all their goofy bear friends.
Respondents also stated that not being a sentient human being
with feelings of doubt, sadness, and pain contributed to the decision.
In the studio tonight, it's Stu.
Riley O'Bell.
And coming through Jitsie, it's Mark Edge.
Yes, we're happy to have Mark with us tonight.
It's nice to have him remotely.
It's more fun to have him have you in studio, Mark,
but it's nice to have you remotely.
I agree. I would love to be up there,
and it's not possible tonight.
Yep. In studio is better, but we're happy to have you either way.
For those that want to catch me more regularly,
I'm doing a show with Sal the Aggress on X on Wednesday nights.
He's down in St. Petersburg, and that's pretty fun to do, too.
Nice. That sounds like fun.
What's the name of the show?
Well, it doesn't really...
It's going to be called Sal and Mark.
Because what's the point if you're just clicking on Sal the Aggress's feed in order to watch?
It doesn't need to be a big name.
It might be kind of shocking,
but I've never actually used Twitter or X platform for anything.
I can't say that I'm very good at these sorts of things,
but I just go in the studio and do a show of which a task I am very suited for.
Cool.
Well, the point of this show is that it's a live call-in show.
So, we're going to go to the phones.
We have Dave Ridley who's already called in.
Dave Ridley, what's on your mind tonight?
Hey, guys. This is something that actually Mark...
I got from Mark.
I was listening to Mark's interview with Jason Soren,
which is... I don't know how long ago it was,
but Jason was just brimming with details about all the different victories
for the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance in the legislature.
Yeah. I thought it was a great interview,
and I can't tell you when exactly it happened either,
but it's gotten a new life recently.
So, I have three that stuck in my mind.
I always like to say that the real litmus test,
whether you're making progress in liberty or not,
is the size of the state budget.
So, I guess they cut it by 7%.
That's incredible, right?
The big cut that came in, I think it was 2011, was almost 12%.
And that was awesome.
The whole budget?
Yeah. Wow. That's pretty good.
Yeah. I imagine that's a chunk of money.
And the other number is...
I guess they cut the budgets for all those state-run universities by 17%.
Yeah, the Democrats are saying the Republicans hate education,
but honestly, these universities, they're just overfunded.
I don't know how else to describe it.
This doesn't cost what it costs to run these...
They churn out absolute garbage, too.
They're really not worth the money,
especially in the age of YouTube
when you can just learn anything you want now.
I think it was either Jason or you, Mark,
who were making the point that the Republicans
were actively funding their own enemies
because these Democrats control these institutions.
So, why should Republicans be forced to underwrite them?
Right.
Yeah, that's fundamentally the idea is that
most people who come out of university
have had their little minds warped
by their professors who are, at this point,
almost exclusively left of center
and, in many cases, way left of center.
Yeah.
And the third factory that stuck in my brain
was I guess they have...
I don't really know exactly how to describe this
or what the word for it is.
Deregulation may not be the right word.
They have made it possible for people
to just have their own electrical grids.
There is a first state in the Union
that has done this in 100 years.
I don't know any developed country that's done this.
But basically, I guess you could have your own neighborhood grid
or you could just set up a company in the middle of nowhere
and build your own solar and have your own grid.
Yeah.
Now, I mean, it's going to be hard to do,
but if you can get people who want to be on your little system,
you know, this allows, say, four people to get together
and have a solar field with some batteries
and these kinds of things.
Why shouldn't that be illegal?
I imagine you'll see some neighborhoods try this out
and if it turns out to be feasible,
there go the power companies.
I think it's a better idea to have decentralized power
and have neighborhoods build their own grids
rather than have a centralized power company
because a centralized power company,
yeah, they might be able to deliver power better
but at the same time, if it's decentralized,
you don't have to worry about going to one big monolithic power company
to pay a bill to.
You can go to your neighbor down the street
who's supplying you solar or, you know,
maybe a small bit of nuclear power too
if they have small enough cells.
And you could build it robust like buried in the ground
instead of suspended on these weak pine poles
that get knocked over by trees every winter.
Yeah, exactly.
You could also, when the technology is available,
but maybe you've got some engineer who lives next door.
You never know.
The idea of these thorium salt reactors,
these melt down proof reactors,
once you can get that online, then you're in great shape.
It's really crazy that we split the atom in 1944
and we're still burning dead dinosaurs
to power the grid.
It doesn't make any sense.
Well, they have nuclear powered engines for submarines,
which I imagine is about as much power
as you need for, like, a neighborhood.
So I don't see why you can't just get one of those engines
and set it up.
I think people are really scared of nuclear power
and understandably so, but at the same time,
you know, if it works better, if we found a way
to contain it in such a way,
then it wouldn't be the problem that people think it is.
My understanding is that it's actually pretty safe
and pretty much every time they fail,
it's due to either sabotage or completing competence.
Or earthquakes.
And these thorium reactors even more.
So on the safe side of things,
really hard to get one of them down
for what I understand about them.
Let's not forget that big government basically
caused two of the three meltdowns
when it comes to nuclear power.
And I was only talking about thorium salt reactors.
And the third one was caused by the biggest
tidal wave to ever hit Japan.
And I think that this is really important
is if you look at all the people who died
during the three meltdowns of nuclear power,
and then you look at how many people die
to deliver you oil every year.
And as I understand the numbers,
and I'm not sitting here looking at them right now,
but as I understand those numbers,
the answer is more people die per year
to bring fossil fuels to the world
than have died in all nuclear accidents up to this point.
Yeah, and the number of people killed by,
I heard at least,
the number of people killed by the evacuation
at Fukushima in Japan,
which was the least bad government,
the least, the most competently handled disaster,
nuclear disaster.
They were more people killed in the evacuation
than were killed by radiation.
I'm not sure anyone was killed by radiation.
Yeah, I'm not sure they were either.
But yeah, with regard to the New Hampshire,
the change in the New Hampshire law,
this has a dual effect on disaster preparedness,
because if you've got a very small grid like that,
it's very unlikely to go down
because the distance to transmitting the electricity
is not very far.
So you have this sort of localized,
relatively safe electricity
that's safe from disasters to a large extent.
And in putting these networks up,
each neighborhood will become closer together
if a neighborhood does that.
Yeah, I'm sure they'll figure out
how to solve the free rider problems
and these sorts of things
in setting up neighborhood grids.
I'm not sure exactly how do you do it,
but I don't have to know.
What I have to,
this is the problem of people
who want to put up their own grids,
and now they're free to in New Hampshire.
And I don't see any reason they shouldn't be.
Yep, I agree.
It seems like a real easy problem to solve.
Like if you move into a place
that's got one of these set up
and they've already shouldered the burden of the cost
to set up the solar field
and they demand that you pitch in,
you would have options anyway.
You could set up solar panels on your roof
to power just your house.
I'm sure there would be plenty of alternatives,
which you don't get a lot of with the big power companies.
No, but New Hampshire has changed that over time too.
I think it was about 15 years ago.
They made it so that you could choose between companies.
Before that, you just,
I mean, the way it is here in Florida
is you just get a power company and that's it.
Yeah, and that's how it is in California too,
and that hasn't worked out so well for them.
Rolling blackouts are a thing in California
and I don't want to have that come to New Hampshire,
so I think the idea of having a decentralized power grid
sounds like a wonderful idea.
Yeah, Riley hates it when the lights go out.
Exactly, I do.
So much, it's very difficult.
All right, Dave, you got anything else?
No.
All right, thanks for the call.
Thanks, Dave.
If you want to get on the air like Dave did,
you can call 6-0-3-2-8-3-6-1-6-0.
Otherwise, we're going to talk about what we want to.
And I believe what we want to talk about
is 50 surprising things Americans actually agree on.
That's what I want to talk about anyway.
Yeah, well, it sounds good to me.
Let's get into it.
I bet I disagree with, you know, at least 26 of them.
I think so too.
This is from CBS News.
A reputable news source.
Well, yeah, that's how they claim it.
A guy named Kyle Grillott reporting for AFP.
So I'm going to leave the fluff that comes out of this article out,
but just realize that 60% of Americans agree on every one of these things.
Teachers should get more pay.
Between school shootings, the COVID-19 pandemic,
LGBTQ policies, and controversies over race-based content taught in schools,
US teachers have been through a lot recently.
And also, they're chronically underpaid.
Most Americans are in favor of paying them more.
In fact, 73% think teachers should be paid more.
Making me sick.
Quit your jobs if you don't like it.
You're chronically underpaid.
Oh no, you get a quarter of the year off.
And also, quit abusing kids.
Well, I think a lot of people see the work that teachers put into the
government education system and think that,
oh, this is actually a good idea to have good government education
and good teachers.
I think people just say that.
I think they know deep down inside exactly what they went through
in the government indoctrination system.
And they'll tell you to your face that, oh, look, I went through it
and I came out fine, but they didn't come out fine.
I think the average person doesn't think like that.
I think the average person says...
They're so conscious, Nose.
How do you know that, though?
How could you ignore it?
You were abused for 15,000 hours of your childhood life.
They don't see that as abuse.
They see that as getting an education.
I don't think a lot of people see that as abuse.
You and I might see it as abuse indoctrination
in the government daycare present,
but the average person doesn't think like that.
Yeah, I don't know.
Well, obviously they don't because 73% of them think
that teachers should be paid more.
Now, first thing I would like to do is distinguish
between a government school teacher
or what I like to call a bureaucrat
and a private school or homeschool co-op teacher
or even just a mom who teaches her own kids.
The case of the latter,
those people are paid what they're worth.
A private school or charter school even
that doesn't get enough students,
goes out of business and the teachers don't get paid anything
or they go on to someplace else and get paid
whatever they need to get paid or whatever,
but you're not forced to fund them.
I want to talk about the government school teachers.
Those are the ones I really have an axe to grind on
because they've decided for better or for worse
that it's easier to go into that system
and that system has major problems.
They're not all focused on the teacher,
but they've, I mean,
the government schools are heavy in administrators.
The teachers are hard to fire,
which means that they don't have to be good teachers.
They don't have to be bad teachers.
Every teacher who's a government school teacher
right now listening to me knows the facts
that they've got people amongst them in their workforce
that shouldn't be there
and they can't get rid of them
and they're not going anywhere.
So I think the government school is funded
through force and coercion.
We're forced to pay at the pain of losing our house
for the worst school in a given district
because that's just the truth.
If you take each grade
and compare it comparatively to each grade
and you take the district,
compare the schools within the district,
95 plus percent of the time
the government school is going to be
the worst performing school in that set.
So I'm very confident
in saying that we're forced to fund
the worst school in the district
and then if you want your kid to have a good education
you can send them to any place else in the district
if you wish to,
but you must pay for the worst option.
That's what other business model would this survive in?
It sounds ridiculous when you say it like that.
Most places in America,
I wouldn't say most places.
Many places in America we currently have school choice.
You can take your kid and put him in a charter school,
you can put him in a private school,
you can homeschool him,
you can do a variety of things.
The government in many cases will give you some of your money
that was extracted from you back.
Not all of it usually.
In fact, I believe in no case will they give you all of your money back.
But they'll give you some of your money
and then you can choose that school
and that's fundamentally had way better results
than 100 years of forced funding
of the worst school in a given district.
Yeah.
And so do I think teachers should be paid more?
I think teachers should be paid what they're worth.
I think a great teacher
who can teach a lot of kids
and teach them very well
should be paid a lot.
And I think a terrible teacher
who can't teach anybody
shouldn't be paid anything.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I agree with that too,
but I think the problem is a lot of people
in America think that,
oh, well, our teacher's not being paid enough
so we need to vote them more money into the education fund.
Not realizing that no one's managing the fund
except the bureaucrats
and the bureaucrats always vote themself more money.
And I have some solutions for that, Riley,
because I don't know how to solve America's problems.
But I do have some solutions
for my individual listeners' problems.
So if you want your kid to go to school
and you don't want to be forced to pay
for government indoctrination centers
that are the worst performing school
in the given district,
there's some solutions.
You could pick up and move to New Hampshire
where we have school choice
and you will pay way less.
And we're the only place in America
that is sort of walking towards
a more free market in schools.
That might not be true.
There are a few other states.
I know Florida's doing really well
but Connecticut,
which was a very free place to educate your kid,
now is less so.
And generally, government is growing
in most other places.
So I don't trust those other places, including Florida,
as well as they may be doing in the recent past.
But New Hampshire, I trust that it's going to get freer
and freer over time there.
Other options.
Live in a motor home.
Drive from place to place
and boondock as much as possible.
Live on a boat.
Another place that doesn't pay property taxes.
Honestly, you could claim to some extent
just renting that you don't pay property taxes.
It's not exactly true,
but it might make you feel better.
It's the same claim that you don't pay sales tax.
It's just taken from you.
It's just added to the charges.
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, it's not like you have an option to tell the cashier,
no, I'm not going to pay the sales tax part
just this other part.
They won't give you the goods.
Yeah, I think that, but as a renter,
you could, so to be clear,
economic states, proper economic theory
would state that the cost of the overhead
for the producer is irrelevant
to the price that the market will pay.
So the market has a price
and the producer has an overhead,
and those things are related,
but they're not directly related.
That's correct.
In so much as if for whatever reason you had to pay,
I don't know, $5,000 a month to have a unit
that was prepared for somebody to rent,
that doesn't mean that you're entitled to a rent
of $5,300 a month.
Right.
Just because it costs you $5,000 a month to run it,
you could just be a bad business person
and have bought too high or whatever problem there might be.
So it's kind of fair to say,
yeah, the landlord pays the property tax.
It's true.
The landlord pays the property tax,
but it's not directly related to the cost of the rent.
I would call that a justification.
I wouldn't call that a truth,
but I can see the point.
Yeah.
Let's go on to point number two.
There should be policies preventing landlords
from increasing rent.
A pandemic era policy in 2020 prevented landlords
from evicting tenants after that policy expired.
Rent for many skyrocketed.
Most Americans, 61%,
either strongly or somewhat support policies
that would prevent landlords from raising rent.
So we went from schools,
which are paid for by taxes,
which landlords pay to landlords increasing rent.
And most people, good people, I'm sure,
kind people at the very least if they're not good,
kind people don't want to see people kicked out of their homes.
But landlords,
no one's protecting landlords from the cost of things going up.
No one says property taxes will not increase X.
No one says that the Fed won't raise rates on home loans,
and that drives the cost.
No one says any of these things,
but they say, yeah, renters can't be kicked out.
Why should I take a risk as a landlord
and be stuck holding the bag just because people feel bad for renters?
I mean, a purchase is a relationship,
and the government shouldn't be involved
as nice as people might feel.
It's none of their gosh-darned business,
what I do and what arrangement I make with my landlord.
None of your business.
I want the services I want,
and I don't want you intervening.
That's right.
I like having a place to rent,
and if you stop landlords from setting their own prices,
they pretty soon won't be any places to rent
because who would go into a business
that's going to cost them money to do?
I think the reason why a lot of people see the landlords
as the horrible people
is because they're the one raising the prices.
When in reality, they don't see the hidden cost of taxes
and things like that.
Rents are too high,
but it's not directly attributable to the landlords.
They're just charging what they have to
to make it a feasible business model.
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Added that talks were going very well,
but Iran's leadership says
the peace proposal floated by the US
was excessive and unfair.
Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city of Van
near the Iran border.
It's understood that back-channel talks
are being held between Washington and Tehran
with various countries involved
in conveying messages back and forth.
According to reports in the Wall Street Journal,
Donald Trump is considering sending
another 10,000 ground troops to the Middle East
ahead of a possible incursion into Iran.
India is cutting taxes on petrol and diesel
as concerns mount over a hike in fuel prices
due to the war in West Asia.
The cut could help oil-selling companies
recoup some of their heightened costs
due to supply disruptions
and if passed on could also help consumers
save more money.
Ishan Garg tells us more from New Delhi.
The Indian government has cut down a size duty
on petrol and diesel by roughly 10% each,
but it's unclear if that benefit
will actually reach the common public.
Analysts say it will help oil companies
most of which are government-owned
manage their costs.
Concerns about fuel inflation
have been looming since the war in Gulf
started a month ago.
India relies on imported fuel
for about 80% of its needs
and the country is preparing for the long haul
with Prime Minister Narendra Modi
warning of hard times ahead
if the conflict drags on.
He's holding a meeting with the chiefs
of Indian states on Friday
with an eye on managing fuel supplies.
Pakistan's aviation sectors
incurred losses of around $72 million
as airspace disruptions linked to the
Iran War continue to ripple
across the region.
Hundreds of flights to Middle Eastern
countries are being cancelled each day,
affecting passengers and businesses
reliant on regional connectivity.
Here in Mustapha, reports from Islamabad.
Pakistani officials say
flights to Dubai, Doha, Abu Dhabi,
Muscat and Sharjah
have been severely disrupted
amid the ongoing racial crisis.
They warn the situation is taking a toll
on passengers and dealing a heavy blow
to the aviation sector.
Pakistan's national carrier PIA
has cancelled more than 500 flights
so far.
Flights that are still operating
are being forced to take longer routes,
driving up fuel consumption
and insurance costs linked
to war risk exposure.
A US Secretary of State Marco Rubio
is joining G7 counterparts in France
for talks on the conflict in Iran
and the war in Ukraine.
The UK is among several powers expressing
concerns over Moscow allegedly
sharing intelligence with Tehran
to help them target US forces.
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In the studio tonight, it's Stu.
Riley O'Bell.
And Mark Edge.
Yes, Mark Edge is joining us via Jitsy call tonight.
We have callers on the line,
so we're going to do that right now.
Going to a call from Barter Town.
You're on Free Talk Live, what's on your mind?
Thank you, Stu, for accepting our phone call tonight.
I am one of the hosts at Barter Town,
and I just wanted to remind the listeners
that we're having an event in May called Mayfest.
That's one of the things, and I'm also, of course,
happy to discuss anything on you guys' mind
or that's relevant that might be of my alley
to give any sort of opinion on.
But yeah, so Mayfest, I'll just keep going
until you want to discuss anything else.
But Mayfest is from May 1st through whenever people decide to leave,
and we're just asking for a contribution for vehicles
that park and then however many people want to ride
or carpool or bicycle or however they get out
can camp for free in the woods at Barter Town,
which is kind of isolated.
It's very remote, and we're going to be offering
complimentary services such as the toilet, hot showers,
and we'll have meals that we'll be preparing every night
so people can come together and share meals if you want to,
and it's pretty much a radically free environment.
Sorry, Stu, you have something to say?
Yeah, what is the landmark that's closest to Barter Town
that I might find the location of this?
Well, Spectacle Pond, which is near Canaan, New Hampshire.
You presume I can spell Spectacle Pond.
Yeah, it's the traditional spelling for Spectacle, I believe.
Again, once the assumption, this is in Maine, right?
No, it's in Grafton County, New Hampshire.
Spectacle Pond of Grafton County, New Hampshire
near Canaan, New Hampshire, Canaan is C-A-N-A-A-N.
And there's a Facebook event for it
if people are able to search on Facebook
for Porkfest Classic is the name we're going by,
but it also, Mayfest is part of the title also there
since it is the more traditional Porkfest rule set
of the Shire Society Declaration,
which is essentially voluntarism
and a lot of you guys should know about the Shire Society Declaration,
the minimal, most minimal rule set in writing
as voluntarists that we can use
to kind of guide our interactions among each other
and among others so that we can lead by example
and promote a single solid written rule set
as the guiding principles for society to follow.
And knowing a little bit about Barter Town that I do,
this is a clothing optional event?
Correct, so the Shire Society rule set
does not allow for pushing clothing obligations onto others.
I do love that.
So all of the month of May, right?
That's correct. The first week, so Mayfest
or Mayday as some people call it,
there's going to be a full moon on May 1st,
so that's going to be our kickoff event.
That's a perfect reason to have a party, right?
Full moon, warmer weather.
Well, it's New Hampshire.
That's true.
Getting close to the notches.
There'll still probably be some snow.
Barter Town, thanks for the call.
Yeah, thanks for the call.
That should be a good time.
Space may be limited,
so reach out to Barter Town
to coordinate with him.
See a bunch of New Hampshire people making.
Some of them will be clothed,
some of them maybe not.
Some of them will.
Being without clothes is nice sometimes.
If you want to try that around other people,
this is the event for you.
Yeah.
We're going to go to our next caller.
We've got Sarah in New Mexico.
Sarah, what's on your mind tonight?
Oh, I went to the Nose Jinx protest yesterday.
Here in Albuquerque.
They're still doing those?
Yeah, they had like 3,000 of them all across the country.
And it was a huge, like,
over like 1,500 people showed up.
Who is the candidate trying to protest?
They don't like Charles?
They call it the Bindejo Paleto.
We've got one of those little Paletos ice cream box.
But anyway, that little thing.
But if Trump, people, we don't like the war.
We don't like the airlines.
I don't like how, and then all of our prices
is going to be even worse.
But it was a lot of fun because they blocked off
I've never seen San Mateo or Montgomery,
big artillery street blocked off for like two hours.
So that was just exciting.
There's a bunch of people walking around with signs and whatever.
There was no violence.
What do you think about the branding No Kings, Sarah?
I mean, like, could they just have not,
just as easily have called it,
you know, the Democratic Party of Albuquerque?
I mean, what do you think?
Well, they have to have something like a jingle.
You know, that's catchy.
I mean, they made a lot of jokes about him.
And it was really hilarious as a speaker.
But anyway, the most exciting thing I found was that
I found people with a socialist socialist
with a red shirt playing drums.
And there were definitely a Communist Party
that was part of organizing all these protests.
And I think these might have been the people
with stick on hammer at the UNIM table.
I mean, it has to be the same bunch affiliated.
You know what I mean?
Because one of the guys had the labor union
for the representing the UNIM workers.
And he was part of the socialist party.
So I thought that was the most extroling thing.
I knew we had communists here in Albuquerque
and you find them in the protest.
I'm sure that's the case.
I'm sure there are communists everywhere.
I like the name No Kings.
I think it's a really great brand.
And what I mostly look forward to
is the next few months when
there's just a whole bunch of anti-war rhetoric going on.
You know, and maybe that'll even last for a little while.
I remember when George Bush was president,
the Democrats were very principled about no war.
When Obama came around, you know,
they wanted to give him a peace prize
and then he fired more cruise missiles
than every other peace prize winner combined.
Exactly.
The biggest throw bombing president in the history of America.
Until Trump came along.
Going to show that they have no real care
about kings and authoritarianism.
But really, they're just, you know,
party line kind of people.
But nonetheless, I mean, it'll be really great
in the future when we do have a Democratic president.
And I am confident that we will.
Then we can just go back and say,
hey, I thought y'all said no kings.
And then, you know, you bring out this authoritarian.
Well, you know what?
He might get impeached.
We get how much do we need in the Senate?
Once we run over the Senate's Democrat,
he's going to get impeached.
That is a true statement.
That is a true statement. Absolutely, Sarah.
It's about 50-50 right now.
Maybe 51-49, Trump loses out on the Senate.
It could happen, really could happen.
And, you know, often the midterms go against
the seated president.
I don't think he's that worried about it
because senators are for sale.
You know, you just buy the votes you need.
And there's plenty of money for that.
How about this though, Sarah?
What do you think the next president
is going to be worse than Trump?
Because it seems like they've gotten, you know,
like progressively things have gotten
sort of worse and worse, don't you think?
Well, I think our inflation at a price
is going to be even worse.
People complained about, you know,
we were paying too much for...
And then, you know, our terms get thin,
all the oil, they can't get any delivery,
so everything's even like three times more prices.
He screwed it up.
You complained about inflation.
Now it's even worse because
you have to go around the straits
and there's going to be another thing.
All the airplane has to spend more
to gasoline and you can't deliver products,
you can't go traveling,
so everything's going to be even more cashier.
So you've got...
Is that a yes?
The next president will be worse than Trump?
Or no, I think we'll get a slight reprieve,
but he'll be worse than Biden.
Well, I think anything's going to be better than Trump.
I mean, he's like the ultra left.
I think that that's what Democrats think, yes.
So let me...
What do you think about...
I mean, you would agree, though,
that Clinton and Obama were pretty good, right?
But Joe Biden not as good, right?
Better than Trump.
The ultra right.
I didn't ask that question.
Let's not be evasive.
You're not a politician.
You're not running for office.
Obama and Clinton.
Yeah.
Was Biden worse than Obama and Clinton?
I think they're all about the same.
Really?
They're all about the same.
I mean, I haven't really noticed much difference
except that, you know,
but I just don't like all this food stand.
They're going to make everybody to work.
All of our food thing has been just like run dry.
What's wrong with working while you have food stamps?
Well, think about it.
They're mentally ill.
What do you think they're homeless and starving?
I don't believe in mental illness.
Regardless of the mean mentally ill,
that does not prevent them from working, Sarah.
They should fix their mental illness.
It's just your brain.
Just tell it.
Just master your brain.
Tell it to do what you want it to do instead.
Well, for some reason, once we put all the restriction,
all the food things that run out of food,
everybody was going to it because they can't do the requirement.
I don't know if it's that easy for you to say,
but you know, these people...
Why is it easy for me to say?
I've used food banks.
I've been that poor.
Well, yeah.
So for some reason, he put restrictions.
They're all the stuff that's coming down from Trump,
and everybody has to go to food banks
and nobody has the money to give to them to act to it.
Sarah, are you more concerned about the price of goods and oil
than you are about, say, civilian deaths from missile launches?
Because that's really what concerns me about the war
and about President Trump is him condoning all of the killing.
That's going on, which is unacceptable and must stop.
You know, and the whole thing in America is like,
all you care about is American troops getting killed.
No, you are concerned about all lives being killed.
You have to...
Rocky or brotherhood sisters, they're human beings.
You know, you have to worry about hurting them too,
causing chaos.
You are right.
But yeah, of course.
That's not one reason to oppose the war, you know?
I'm against the next war too.
Me too.
Yep.
Thanks for the call, Sarah.
Thanks for the call.
We have yet another caller on the line.
Busy night.
We're going to go to Turd Ferguson in Pennsylvania.
Turd, what's on your mind tonight?
Sarah's partisan hackery truly makes me sick.
I really believe that she is the single worst caller
of Free Talk Live.
You don't think I made her entertaining?
I don't think it's nothing against you working.
No, no, no.
I'm literally asking.
I say the same thing to myself when this kind of thing happens,
is it's my job to make Sarah as entertaining as possible
to whomever is listening.
And it's hard to know these days,
because Free Talk Live is not on as many radio stations, right?
So there's not as many uninitiated listeners.
It's kind of the people who've been listening to her
for the last 15 years or however long it's been.
Personally, some of the Sarah calls have gotten the best laughs
out of me from all of Free Talk Live history.
She definitely is really entertaining at times.
No, it's not.
She's not.
You're giving away too much credit.
And Mark Edge, as you know, I really like you,
but nobody can make Sarah entertaining.
No matter how talented they are at the radio job.
I think your opinion is as valid as the next guy's turn.
I really appreciate it.
She is pretty dull.
I think my opinion is even more valid than the next guy's.
You admit that this is a subjective situation, right?
I disagree.
I think this is an objective situation.
She is objectively bad.
I am the greatest caller of Free Talk Live of all time,
with the exception of perhaps maybe James Wittekind.
Have you been hanging out with Skeeter?
Please don't say his name and get him to call.
By the way, I have a restraining order against him,
and it is illegal for him to call.
Not that that happens.
Oh, really?
Oh, interesting.
Well, he called a few weeks ago,
and I was able to get on the air with him briefly.
If I wasn't on the air, then I guess he can call.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I've had some great conversations with James Wittekind
off the air on the phone.
I actually think he's a pretty funny guy.
He's highly entertaining.
I think that he can be clever at times.
Yeah.
I agree.
So the reason why I'm calling is because I personally believe
that the Free State Project has basically 20 years in
has completely failed at what attempted,
set out to attempt to do in the first place.
What is it?
What is that?
To create a free society, a voluntary society.
Kind of.
Let me be clear.
I've had this interview with Jason Sorens,
and I think you can critique the Free State Project,
and I'm willing to do so.
But really what he said was,
what would happen if we took half of the libertarians
from the libertarian party?
Apparently, there were about 40,000 people
who were members of the libertarian party at the time,
in like 2002 or whatever.
What if we took half of them and we got them to move to one state?
And that's more of a question than it is an answer.
And I think that the answer to the question is,
while there will be a lot of problems,
and there have been,
there will be more effective than the national libertarian party.
And I think it is.
I don't know about that.
I mean, Angela McCartle seems to have single-handedly
gotten more done for the libertarian movement
than the Free State Project.
So there certainly seems like that.
Now again, now this might be something
that is more subjective than objective,
but I got to tell you,
I moved out of New Hampshire,
I think it was probably six, seven years ago now maybe,
because I was just so tired of dealing with the nonsense,
and I felt like this thing was going nowhere.
And I was still considered an early mover, honestly.
I think I moved just before the move was triggered.
And all the people that signed up had a five-year window
per their contract to move there.
And I'm not even sure if they've come anywhere close
to the number of people that signed up.
And look, I'm not knocking it, okay?
I mean, if you like the Free State Project, good for you.
But my suggestion is that
why not instead, and I know this has been tried before,
unsuccessfully, but it might be a better idea
now that many of you,
I mean, at least a good chunk of you are in the state,
go ahead and move to Grafton
and just vote out the politicians in Grafton
and you might actually get what you want.
Or not exactly, but something close to it.
You might be able to create
a little autonomous zone in Grafton
and you might be able to secede if,
I mean, I don't know if this has ever been tried,
but you might be able to say,
look, we're creating our own little constitution in Grafton
that says that we don't have to be part of the states
of New Hampshire or the federal government
because we are the government.
And what we say goes because we have a monopoly
on the use of force in Grafton.
And so I think that's your best bet at this point
because I don't really see the free state project
from a state perspective going anywhere.
I just don't think it's going to work.
And you guys have had 20 years.
It's been 20 years.
I hear you.
I don't think it's going to create a free society
if you want to be very pedantic
about what the term free means,
but I kind of do think that it has been
somewhat successful.
And I honestly believe that moving to one area
together, a sort of the free town concept
is counterproductive.
And here's why.
I think it's a great idea.
I hear you.
Okay, go ahead.
Currently, 160 plus, I think it's 166.
It's either 160 or 166.
And again, I don't have the numbers in front of me.
Of the New Hampshire representatives are rated 80% and above.
So that means they're pro-liberty like an 8080 libertarian
as opposed to 100 to 100 libertarian.
And that's a pretty good number.
That 160 means sort of the libertarians
have a libertarian veto.
You can't get your bill through without getting,
you know, one of three parties on site.
The traditional Republicans, the traditional Democrats,
and then the sort of libertarians
hiding as something else.
And if you get one of those, two of those three,
you'll get your bill passed.
And if you get,
and of course to get the libertarians on board,
you probably have to have a pretty pro-freedom bill.
And so I like that.
I think that that's a very powerful thing.
If you move everybody to,
if you move 500 libertarians to one town
and they get one representative,
then you have one vote in the New Hampshire House.
If you take 500 libertarians and move them
to 500 different locations spread across New Hampshire,
you have potentially a potential candidate in every race.
And that candidate could, you know, win or lose
and has the chance of being somewhere around,
let's see, there's,
it's hard for a libertarian to hide as a Democrat.
The Democrats have been very good at ferreting them out.
Of course they've stayed in minority
for the vast majority of the time
since the Free State Project's been here.
The Republicans consider them Confederates
and on the same side, so they'll,
let's say, you know,
they could potentially win another 40 seats
from the 160 that are already there.
I'm presuming that libertarians that move
to the 160 locations of these current reps
are smart enough not to primary them.
Well, maybe, but here,
the problem is that many of the people
that were, that even once liked the Free Staters
and once liked the libertarians now hate them.
And, yeah, I think a lot actually
is a more accurate estimate.
A lot of them, a lot of them hate them
because of, quite frankly,
the free keeners as they used to be
colloquially referred to as.
And I'm not saying that,
I'm not saying that everything's fine elsewhere
because I think there are still a lot of people
that hate the Free Staters in other places,
but I think keen is probably,
the libertarians and keen are probably
the most hated out of all of them,
but if you just forget about it
and you just get the 3,000 or so,
my sense is there's probably about 3,000
still left in New Hampshire.
Maybe there's more, maybe there's, I don't know.
My sense is it's probably about three.
Just, you can go,
you can go to Grafton right now
and you can outnumber everybody else in Grafton.
You don't even need math, really.
I mean, you could just go there
and you can literally, you can do it in a year.
I mean, and then there's no,
and then there's no questions.
There's no like, well, what if, well, like maybe,
what if we had one free state
or running in every election for like,
there'd be none of that.
Like, tomorrow you could,
you could do what you want to do.
And it's so simple and it's so easy.
I support anybody's ideas
that they feel are going to make them freer.
Here's what I caution.
I caution plans that make you less free
that you hope will make the world freer
and thus you happy.
The sacrifice.
Right.
I'm kind of an objectivist, a randian in this sense,
is that I think when you try to,
you know, when you try to free the world,
the world doesn't want to be freed.
Ian Freeman sitting in prison right now
because people did not understand
what he was trying to do by selling Bitcoin.
You know, some little old ladies got scammed
by Nigerian princes
and they somehow blamed Ian Freeman for it
because they bought it from him.
Now, those same little old ladies
could have gone to Target and bought gift cards.
They could have gone to Walmart and done the same.
They could have gone to Coinbase and bought Bitcoin.
And the CEO of Target and Coinbase
aren't going to be on the witness stands.
They're absolutely not,
but Ian Freeman's got to sit in prison.
So, I mean, I caution when it comes to sort of
doing something that doesn't make you happy.
If you're excited about moving to the Free State Project,
I encourage you.
If you're excited about moving to Grafton
for the Free Town Project, again,
I encourage you.
If you're excited about moving to New Hampshire
and running for office,
I would encourage you to find what we call
a swing district and move there.
And, you know, just do what makes you happiest
is my biggest advice when it comes to delivery.
Thanks for the call tonight, Turd.
You can get your thoughts and ideas on the air.
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U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Friday
that the U.S. can achieve its objectives in Iran
without needing to send in American ground troops.
Diplomatic efforts to end the conflict are continuing,
but Rubio has suggested there was still no direct communications.
Nick Harper reports from Washington.
A new timeline for this U.S. operation in Iran
now coming from the Secretary of State Marco Rubio
saying that operations would conclude at the appropriate time,
but it would be weeks, not months.
He said that negotiations had not begun in earnest,
but that the U.S. had exchanged messages with Iran
and received indications from the Iranians
about a willingness to talk.
And still in the background is the possibility
of U.S. boots on the ground.
Rubio, though, said that the U.S.
could achieve its goals in Iran without any ground troops.
That came after the U.S. delayed a threat
to attack Iran's energy infrastructure
to the 6th of April.
The U.S. President said the deadline extension request
came from Tehran.
Donald Trump added that talks were going very well,
but Iran's leadership says the peace proposal
floated by Washington was excessive and unfair.
Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city of Van
near the Iran border.
Iran has not confirmed publicly that it is in direct negotiations
with the United States,
but it's understood that back-channel talks
are being held between Washington and Tehran
with various countries involved
in conveying messages back and forth,
including Egypt, Pakistan and Turkey.
According to reports in the Wall Street Journal,
Donald Trump is considering sending
another 10,000 ground troops to the Middle East
ahead of a possible incursion into Iran
on top of the more than 3,000 soldiers
already on their way to the Gulf.
A report from the OECD predicts the U.K. economy
will be hit harder than any other industrialized nation
due to the conflict in the Middle East
with inflation expected to spike
and the jobs market weaken.
Stuart Smith has more from London.
Goods and services are likely to get much more expensive
much more quickly as the U.S. and Israeli war with Iran
drags on and the United Kingdom
is going to be particularly hard hit
according to the OECD's analysis.
Inflation was predicted to be 2.5% this year,
but is now forecast to be 4%.
That will impact U.K. growth more than similar nations
like Italy, France and Germany
who analysts say are less exposed to energy shocks.
For London that means a predicted 40% decrease
in annual growth this year
even if oil and commodity prices stabilised by summer.
The think tank claims efforts
to increase domestic energy use
and rely less on imported fuels should help.
The U.K. government says it's already doing that
but opposition parties claim the disproportionate impact
of the war on the British economy
is evidence that the government's policies aren't working.
The International Olympic Committee this week
banned transgender women from Olympic competition
saying the new policy promotes fairness.
The eligibility change comes after U.S. President
Donald Trump signed an executive order last year
banning transgender girls and women
from competing in female sports
ahead of the 2028 Los Angeles summer games.
Tony Waterman reports.
Under the new policy only biological females
will be allowed to compete in the Olympics
starting in 2028.
Their sex will be determined by a mandatory
one-time genetic test.
IOC president, Kirstie Coventry
said the decision was based on science
which she says shows males have a performance advantage
in sports that rely on strength, power and endurance.
At the Olympic Games even the smallest margins
can be the difference between victory and defeat.
So it's absolutely clear that it would not be fair
for biological males to compete in the female category.
It's unclear how many, if any, athletes may be impacted.
The IOC says these individuals would still be
eligible to compete in the male competitions.
And finally there was some good news this week
an endangered mountain gorilla has given birth
to twins in the east of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Conservationists say twin births are very rare
in mountain gorillas.
Chris Otamaringa has more from Kinshasa.
Park Rangers at the Virunga National Park
found a gorilla nursing twins deep in the dense rainforest
in the east of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
The female gorilla from the Baraka family
delivered a female and a male baby.
Experts say twins are extremely rare in mountain gorillas
accounting for less than one percent of births.
Park Rangers are monitoring them to ensure they grow into adults.
The Virunga National Park is a very dangerous place
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because many rebels and poachers operate in the area.
The twins' birth comes two months
after another gorilla delivered twins.
Dads were able to wrap up breakfast in bed by 9.18 a.m.
giving them plenty of time to mill about the garage
for the rest of the afternoon.
While children who spent a minute and a half this morning
hugging their mothers are currently out playing street hockey.
And after completely fulfilling their Mother's Day obligations
with a store-bought card, teens are now free to leave
and spend the day with their friends.
The moms, who were quickly and efficiently lavished
with cards, flowers, assurances of love
and seven full minutes of family togetherness,
praised the competency with which the holiday was carried out.
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Charles and the kids made me feel completely appreciated.
They ended the holiday before I even got out of bed.
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We got a caller from Las Vegas, Nevada.
You're on the air.
What's on your mind?
Knowing government spending and deficits
isn't the path to freedom.
It's the path to saving democracy.
And nobody wants freedom.
They want slurping.
Being burned with choice isn't something people want.
And oh my God, Mark, you're an objectivist.
No, I lean objectivist in that way.
But I think you are right.
I don't think that most people care anything about Liberty.
I think they do care about flourishing.
And they care about, you know,
basically just how well their lives are going.
And they want them, I think, to add a finer point to it,
if I may, they want their lives to get marginally
a little better every year.
And if it does, they're pretty happy.
But what would you say to this, Skeeter,
is that I've heard a statistic that 80%,
that's 8-0, just in case you might have heard differently,
8-0% of people in the world are dissatisfied
or very dissatisfied with their government.
What do you think about that?
Well, what they say and what they do
kind of contradict each other.
If you really dissatisfied, you'd leave, right?
And go where? To one or the other percent of places
where people are dissatisfied with their government?
Seastead.
Your options are limited based upon technology
and what other people believe, right?
So obviously they're selecting the best possible choice
that they feel that it's available to them.
So being dissatisfied kind of loses all meaning to that
when you explain it that way, right?
But just now what I want to talk about...
Well, hold on. We're talking about this now.
I think that you're right.
Again, I am conceding this ground,
but I also think that it takes a little time
for ideas to become sort of cemented in people's minds.
At this point, I think many libertarians understand
if they wanted a more libertarian life,
they can move to New Hampshire.
But they may be, for whatever reason,
it's like mom's sick and old and I don't want to go yet
or I got to retire or the kids are still in the house
or whatever their reason might be.
I think that it's valid to sort of wait.
But further, I don't think many people
have heard about Prospera.HN or Morizan.city
or really that even a Seastead is...
I don't think a Seastead is a practical choice
if you want freedom.
Yes, if you want to sort of test out Seasteads and stuff,
but not if you want to move outside
of the sort of 12 mile international boundary.
Now you'll make yourself a larger target
for coercion by doing it.
I think you'll get swamped.
I mean, what is Prospera and Morizan, right?
Other than crypto colonization of four countries, right?
You guys, those societies are just role-playing.
They're larking. They're larking freedom
when they're actually using their privilege
as a U.S. corporation to take advantage of poor countries, right?
They use their wealth that they accumulated under a democracy
and pretend they're independent from it
when they're relying on their legal system
in order to get their bargaining power
to get their stupid rich city, right?
Morizan and Prospera...
What you're saying, it sounds like you're attacking Prospera
and throwing Morizan under the bus.
I mean, none of the things you said about Morizan are true.
Do they rely on taxation?
They are forced by...
Hold on.
The laws of the Zettais require them to give a less than 1% income tax,
and people are sort of supposed to voluntarily participate.
Did everyone there renounce their citizenship?
Why would they do that? That's not an obligation.
Why aren't they doing it?
At least the ANCAPs who move there
who claim that they're independent of the U.S. government.
I see. You're confused.
You don't know that much about Morizan.
Fine, no problem.
Morizan is a housing development for factory workers
in Choloma, Honduras,
one of the really inhospitable urban places in the world.
I was referring to Prospera more than Morizan,
but both are still...
Is it run by a U.S. company?
No.
A corporation?
Nope.
No.
Is it under...
It's run by Honduran corporation.
And the vast majority of people who live in it are Honduran,
and they want to live there and they love it.
They have a waiting list.
So it's not open borders?
Well, why would it have open borders?
Oh, now you're just criticizing
Annaco-capitalist theory, right?
They always advocate for open borders and stuff.
I get it, but you do understand.
I'm sure, Skeeter.
You're well informed.
Not every one of our listeners are.
You're well informed on this stuff,
but you know as well as I do
that this is a controversial issue
within libertarian circles
as to whether or not open borders are a good idea.
I believe that when you...
Well, I fundamentally believe that whatever organization
owns the land gets to make the choices
of what the immigration policy is.
I just believe that we've been lied to
in the United States when they say the government
is of the people, by the people,
and for the people,
and that somehow we are the government.
I think the government is...
Yeah, how's that a lie?
And they own all the land.
I don't understand how that's...
I don't understand how that's a lie.
Theoretically, we can dissolve democracy
if you get enough support for it.
Sure.
But it's not me, right?
If I decided I wanted to dissolve democracy,
I can't do it, right?
Yeah, but you don't make up the entire group.
You don't make up the entire ownership of the country.
Sure.
This is the fiction of groups, though.
That's the fiction.
This is what they tell you.
You are the government.
Well, no, I'm not.
I'm 1,300 millionth of the government,
and that my vote doesn't matter
unless it's a tie break,
and it will never be a tie break my entire life.
No, that's a false way to look at it.
You can always...
Everybody...
You can keep removing people from the vote.
You can keep removing someone's vote in the system,
and eventually it'll change.
It doesn't matter who it is, right?
Your vote...
You're just sour...
The majority doesn't agree with you, right?
Of course it doesn't.
I'm fully aware of that.
That's why I picked up and I moved to New Hampshire,
and then I picked up from there,
and I moved to Saipan,
and then I picked up from there,
and I moved to Honduras,
and by the way, I keep a residence in New Hampshire
because U.S. citizens must have a residence,
even if they're a foreign resident.
The reason why people believe in this system
is because it has worked relatively well.
Compared to other forms of tyranny, it is good.
But you would also agree, I'm sure,
that government loves to retain power, right?
It just doesn't want to let it go.
So the idea that you could buy your own little piece of land
and buy the sovereignty thereof
and run your own little country...
It's not up to them.
It's really not up to them, right?
It's up to their performance,
at least the relative performance, right?
If you were to accelerate the fiscal collapse,
you would see change.
People would want change like in Argentina.
What do you think created Bitcoin, Mark?
It was the banking crisis of 2008.
It's these things that prompt people,
that urge people to want change.
This is a valid theory.
Like it worked.
Yeah.
Doi.
When things look like they're working well,
they don't want change.
It's not that they're slaves
or that they're under an illusion, rightly.
They are under an illusion.
Ladies and gentlemen, vote for the worst possible candidate.
Skeeter says so.
Thank you for the call.
Yeah.
Thanks for the call today, Skeeter.
That guy's got some interesting logic, hasn't he?
Well, he's one of those guys
that I say is like so intelligent.
He might be crazy.
He's also an complete ass.
It makes him, you know, unlistable to the average person.
But as a caller, I think that he's,
I think there's a good argument that Skeeter is a good caller.
Yeah.
I wish he could make his thoughts a little more coherent,
but you could tell there's some substance there.
It makes you look good when he's not coherent.
All right.
We're going to go to Tom in New Hampshire.
Tom, you're on Free Talk Live.
What's on your mind?
Good evening.
First of all, I believe the Declaration of Independence talks
about when things are pretty much going well.
Where it says, and I quote,
Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established
should not be changed for light and transient causes.
And accordingly, all experience has shown that mankind
are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable
than to write themselves by abolishing the forms
to which they are accustomed.
I end up quote.
So it means things are going.
It just amazes me that most voters don't give a flying duck
about all the people getting killed in Iran
or the major misappropriation of our attacks,
revenues and the military force of the United States
to prop up a foreign country's scriptural claim
to apply the territory out in the Middle East,
which is what it's all about.
Instead of simply telling all these Jewish people,
look, next time there's a terrible thing going on,
why don't you just all move to the United States?
You know, they shouldn't just suffer them all
to most of the United States.
I kind of think that.
I kind of do think that though.
Is this like, I mean, really, many of the problems
in the Middle East are Britons.
And then, to some extent, the United States is fault.
Had FDR welcomed the ship of the damned,
these Jews who were trying to escape Nazi Germany
in, I think, 39 and said, you know what,
all you Jews come here that things might have been better.
For the United States, you know,
we'd have all those Nobel Peace prices and all that stuff.
And it wouldn't be such a big deal in Israel right now.
The other part of it is though.
I mean, they don't care about the carnage.
They don't care about the human rights violations
or the international law violations going on.
They say, oh, but the price of oil is going up.
Oh, no, we will vote out these no good Republicans
over something stupid like that.
And they don't give a flying duck about the real issues there
because it's somebody else's problem.
And, you know, they didn't mind when the United States
was fighting a war for oil in Iraq.
It's just, oh, well, you know,
it was started just so Vice President Cheney's friends
at Halliburton could make money off the oil.
But it's all, well, the price of oil is going up.
And, you know, they're going to vote out the Republicans over that.
They're over dependent on oil granted.
But it's got to stop because, you know,
these people are getting bombed.
And, you know, look at the attack in Venezuela
where the scores of security forces were wounded and killed
to kidnap the president and vice president of Venezuela over what?
Oh, we don't like those.
I mean, so these people were importing cocaine into the United States.
And I tell you, you know, cocaine, how much worse it is
than legal drugs like alcohol.
You know, I mean, if you drink alcohol over time,
you can get addicted to it.
But if you do cocaine over time, you can get addicted to it.
So that's the first way that cocaine is so much worse.
Another way is if you drink alcohol,
you drink too much at one time, it can kill you.
But if you do too much cocaine at one time, it can kill you.
And that's the second way that cocaine is worse than alcohol.
And the third way is if you drink alcohol and try to drive a car,
you could crash and kill somebody else.
But if you do cocaine and try to drive a car,
you might crash and kill somebody else.
Those are the three ways that cocaine is so much worse than alcohol.
You know, they did a study at one point,
and I can't, you know, state it off the top of my head,
but it was something like, what is the social...
What are the negative social effects of all the drugs?
And they included alcohol, and it was the worst.
It has more negative social effects by then to the fact
that it is just consumed on a wide basis
than all the rest of those drugs.
Well, it's one of the most dangerous, too.
It's one of the few that can kill you simply from the withdrawal.
Yeah, it's true.
You start messing around with marijuana in college.
I mean, you know what that stuff does to you?
You start messing around with marijuana in college.
You might grow up to be vice president of the United States.
Yeah.
Well, president, for that matter.
Al Gore, well, you know, he smoked weed
and admitted to what and everything.
Bill Clinton didn't inhale, supposedly, but he, you know...
Pot waster.
George Bush did.
Do you realize what that stuff can do to you?
Well, yeah.
If you mess around with marijuana in college,
you might grow up to be vice president of the United States.
I put that on to politicians.
I was holding a news conference on January 3rd, 2001
in the legislative office building in Concord.
During my brief time as a state representative,
I was holding a news conference and they started...
These state representatives decided to start asking questions
and confronting me on my positions and stuff.
And one of them was saying,
do you realize what that drug do to you?
And I answered, yeah.
I start messing around with marijuana in college.
You might grow up to be vice president of the United States.
It's an excellent joke.
Thank you for the call, Tom.
Yeah, thanks for the call tonight.
I just looked up Polly Market on who will win the Senate in 2026
and currently it's a 52 percent, the slightest of margins
for the Democrats.
And as Sarah said earlier, she didn't, you know, she isn't wrong.
If the Democrats manage to get the Senate,
then Trump will be impeached.
And I believe that means convicted also, like, you know,
the House and Senate, you know, he's going down.
So I suspect it's just a supposition that he will try very,
very hard to prevent that from happening.
What do you think they'll take him down for?
Certainly not the war crimes, something much less.
What difference does it make?
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what it is.
It's all they have.
Well, because then they have to admit that America did war crimes.
Yeah.
Well, I won't even speculate.
Polly Market probably has, but...
Polly Market's pretty good.
If, you know, the thing is, is there's enough things out there
to convict someone of that they will definitely find something.
And, you know, that's that.
I'm not saying Trump's innocent.
I'm not saying he's guilty.
I'm not saying any of those things.
I'm saying that if the Senate is taken by the Democrats,
they will impeach Trump.
I doubt there's been a president that hasn't done illegal things
that could get them impeached since, you know,
before the Federal Reserve, certainly.
It wouldn't matter if they said,
if they impeached him for wearing pink on Sunday.
Right.
You know, like, all they need is the votes.
It doesn't matter what it is.
Let's go on with the things that Americans agree on up to 60%.
Spending on public housing should increase
with rent and mortgages increasing along with homelessness.
More people are turning to public housing,
which is provided and paid for by the government,
which, by the way, is a nice euphemism for saying,
you and your taxes taken at the point of a gun if necessary.
And believe it or not,
60% of Americans support increasing spending on public housing.
That's insane.
Yeah.
Why is that?
Because it's not sustainable.
You're giving people the wrong incentive.
Yeah.
Well, most people don't offer helping people out,
but if you just give it to them unconditionally,
guess what?
They're going to keep using it.
Most people wrongly think that, you know,
when government does something, it's actually really good.
But they forget that public housing is public housing
and that's where the drug addicts go.
That's where the poor people end up
and there's no incentive for the poor people
and the drug addicts to maintain the value of that property.
It just becomes trash.
Yeah.
They just trash it in many cases.
Some people, I'm sure, try very hard to keep their houses
very nice there,
but the difficulty is that they're in the minority
or even it just takes one in a neighborhood
to bring everything down.
So, you know, it's just, it's not a solution.
You're absolutely right.
It creates the wrong incentives.
And whether people believe that people are good
or whether people believe that people are bad,
I think that everybody can agree
that people respond to incentives.
Yep.
That they respond very, very well to incentives.
And the incentive when you give somebody free housing
isn't necessarily to take care of the housing.
It's just to, you know, make as much money
as you need to make in order to get by
and make sure you don't lose that free housing.
Yeah, that's right.
People will purposely make less money
just so they can keep their benefits,
free housing or food stamps or whatever they got going.
I think it's better to take the exact opposite approach
and use that temporarily.
Like if I were to go on government assistance,
I don't want to be having that hang over my head all the time
because, number one, it doesn't incentivize me to produce.
And number two,
if I work just to maintain my benefits
or don't work at all,
then what's to incentivize me to save up for a house?
What's to incentivize me to improve my life?
Yeah, it's a difficult conundrum,
but remember, we're just a savanna ape
that is carrying around a cell phone in this pocket, right?
You know, we're not all logical.
Logic isn't the best system for convincing
people of much of anything.
It all comes down to sort of feelings.
Yeah, people are very emotionally reactive.
And group cohesion, I think, is the number one thing.
If, you know, most, what is the percentage?
Most people will, they did some kind of study, right?
And they said patently ridiculous things.
Like this line is longer than that line
when it obviously was not, right?
And they got 80-something percent of people
to say at some point to agree with the obvious lie.
And they got 15% of people to always agree with it.
15% of people would agree with an obvious lie
in order to what?
Well, it's because why would they do that?
The answer is because social cohesion is way more important
to this particular species of primate
than the truth is.
Truth is relevant to about 15% of you autists out there
and the rest of people will just kind of fall in line.
Yeah, I kind of fall in that smaller category.
Yeah, I'd like to think I do.
Let's go on.
Oh, I've got it.
When we get back here, I've got the next one.
Social welfare programs are fine.
You could almost have guessed it.
Yeah, indeed.
Give us a call. Let us know what you think.
Are social welfare programs fine?
Which of these items do you agree with?
Apparently 60% of Americans do.
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The United States has delayed a threat to attack
Iran's energy infrastructure to April 6th.
The US President said the deadline extension request
came from Tehran,
though that's not yet been confirmed by Iran.
Donald Trump added that talks were going very well,
but Iran's leadership says the peace proposal
floated by the US was excessive and unfair.
Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city of Van
near the Iran border.
It's understood that back channel talks
are being held between Washington and Tehran
with various countries involved in conveying messages
back and forth.
According to reports in the Wall Street Journal,
Donald Trump is considering sending another 10,000
ground troops to the Middle East
ahead of a possible incursion into Iran.
India is cutting taxes on petrol and diesel,
as concerns mount over a hike in fuel prices
due to the war in West Asia.
The cut could help oil-selling companies
recoup some of their heightened costs
due to supply disruptions
and if passed on could also help consumers
save more money.
Ishan Garg tells us more from New Delhi.
The Indian government has cut down excise duty
on petrol and diesel by roughly 10% each,
but it's unclear if that benefit
will actually reach the common public.
Analysts say it will help oil companies
most of which are government-owned
manage their costs.
Concerns about fuel inflation have been looming
since the war in Gulf started a month ago.
India relies on imported fuel
for about 80% of its needs
and the country is preparing for the long haul
with Prime Minister Narendra Modi
warning of hard times ahead
if the conflict drags on.
He's holding a meeting with the chiefs
of Indian states on Friday
with an eye on managing fuel supplies.
Pakistan's aviation sectors
incurred losses of around $72 million,
as airspace disruptions linked to the
Iran War continued to ripple
across the region.
Hundreds of flights to Middle Eastern
countries are being cancelled each day,
affecting passengers and businesses
reliant on regional connectivity.
Hero Mustafa reports from Islamabad.
Pakistani officials say
flights to Dubai, Doha, Abu Dhabi,
Muscat and Sharjah
have been severely disrupted
amid the ongoing regional crisis.
They warn the situation is taking a toll
on passengers and dealing a heavy blow
to the aviation sector.
Pakistan's national carrier PIA
has cancelled more than
500 flights so far.
Flights that are still operating
are being forced to take longer routes,
driving up fuel consumption
and insurance costs linked to
war risk exposure.
A US sector of state marker Rubio
is joining G7 counterparts in France
for talks on the conflict in Iran
and the war in Ukraine.
The UK is among several powers expressing concerns
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with Tehran to help them
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In the studio tonight it's Stu,
Riley O'Bill and Mark Edge.
We were discussing 50 things
Americans agree on.
Yeah, there's few things
that we think that Americans agree on.
Maybe aren't so scant,
but it seems like
many of these things that are in here
and I'm skipping over some boring ones,
but I haven't honestly seen
one that I really like.
I mean, you know,
here's one that says inflation is serious.
Yeah, inflation is serious.
But when you see things like
social welfare programs are fine,
I don't think I agree.
Social welfare programs are often demonized
by GOP politicians,
but the majority of Americans overwhelmingly
support these programs.
When broken down by government benefit programs,
79% of Americans have favorable views
of Social Security,
79% of Medicare,
77% of disability insurance,
76% have favorable views of Medicaid,
74% have favorable views of SNAP,
71% have favorable views of TAMF,
temporary assistance for needy families,
71% have favorable views of unemployment insurance,
and 67% have favorable views of public housing assistance.
And I'm not surprised,
unsurprisingly, these numbers seem to mirror
the people that don't pay much
if any income tax.
And I know that it feels like
you're paying income tax because you're paying
some Social Security tax,
which your employer is matching.
But in reality, if you remove the Social Security tax,
the vast majority of Americans are
not paying much at all,
and a good percentage of them
are actually getting something
from the earned income family tax credit
or whatever it might be.
That's right.
So it's about 20% of people
pay, and really pay.
I think that there's a little margin
below 20% maybe, something like
people who pay are in the
30 to 20% bracket.
They pay a little.
But essentially, people who are
70% of people who are below 30%
of the wages, they're paying nothing.
And what a surprise, 79% of Americans
have a favorable view of this thing or that thing.
I don't think
the Social Security and Medicare are exactly
fair here because those are
separate programs that you pay into,
so they have a slightly higher favorability,
but disability insurance,
Medicaid, SNAP,
TAMF, these kind of things.
Yeah, about the same amount of people
who don't pay income tax
also support these programs.
Yeah, that's an interesting viewpoint.
In my opinion, you could toss all of these out.
Yeah, and I think that it would be a good thing.
I think that if
supporting people who really need
your support is a good thing
that in somewhere in the marketplace,
charities or whatever will step up and do that.
And then,
the social safety net
that has become a hammock,
that's what will be destroyed,
right, is that
no church is going to let you just
hang around. They might give you
some assistance,
but they're not going to let you just hang around
month after month after month.
Hey, I'm crazy. I can't work.
That's what we're kind of getting told by Sarah
earlier.
Yep, the way the Mormon Church handles that is
if they can't get you
to where you're self-sufficient,
they have several jobs they can put you into
and they'll put you to work.
Right, that sounds like a great plan.
I think so too.
There are ways that this can be handled
without the theft
that people call taxation.
Absolutely. One thing I think
so security probably does
well, I'm sure
that many of these programs that drive
fathers out of homes
because your family can't get as much
with two incomes.
So what's mom do?
She says, I can keep
dad around, but I can't marry him
or whatever.
And then the bond isn't quite as tight.
So maybe dad goes away
after a little while or whatever the case may be.
And it destroys
families in many ways.
And so security,
I think, causes
parents to not be so cool
with their kids. I mean, maybe you'd
treat your kid better if you realized
this is my social safety net here.
Better treat him better.
And not only that, but I think it's
it's kind of a
it's
it's a misleading promise.
It's
supposed to supplement you in your old age,
but it's
by the time you've paid in
dollars that were valued at, you know,
market rate that
you know, could actually actually buy
goods, when you get those back, they're going to be so
well inflated that, you know, loafer
bread is
up 300% from where it was when you were
paying in. And it's just not it's not
going to be the support that you were hoping for.
Right. Some people will not
save for retirement. They just won't do
it. Right. Some people
will always save
for retirement. And
there's nothing you, you know, whatever
program you put out there, it doesn't make a difference.
But there's this amount of people, and I
wouldn't call it in the middle, but there's this percentage
of people who if you take
from them a certain amount
every month and you say it's for retirement, they
won't save. But if you didn't, they
would. And
you know, and save is whatever it is
becomes part of a community, whatever, whatever
the situation is in some way, guarantee
that you're taking care of in your old age.
And it's those people
that are harmed the most by Social Security
because Social Security isn't
a promise to take care of you in your
old age. It's a promise
that we will give you the minimum
possible for you to survive.
Right. And, you know,
dog food and
housing projects, you know, it's
not good. And that's
where it really leaves people astray. They're
like, I feel like I was betrayed by this
system. And were they
well, they didn't do enough
research. That's for sure. Yeah, that was
always the intention. They wanted to trust
the Social Security system to take care of
them, not realizing that government is inflating
the value of your currency
in favor of
you know, feeding the
welfare people
rather than taking care of inflation
and managing it by, you know,
not spending as much.
That's right. Your government doesn't
care about you.
No. No, they just
want your vote. And
they are willing to throw some
crumbs out there in order to get it,
especially the Democratic Party.
But, yeah,
they, you know, neither party
actually cares about you.
No, how could they?
How could they? Yeah.
How could they? How could they?
How can you have representatives
that don't even know you?
So just care about you.
Yeah. Yeah.
They're just people who are,
you know, they're the person that's in that geographic
area that's best suited to lie
to you, right? They tell the most
convincing lies.
Ladies and gentlemen, I care
deeply about my constituents.
Right? Yeah.
I mean, obviously, that's what
the system was designed to do
is to elevate the person who
is the best at lying.
Yeah. Yeah, Bill Clinton saying,
I feel your pain and all of that.
He doesn't feel anyone's pain at all.
No.
Nope. He probably felt the pain
of those
those young ladies that he
molested there on Epstein Island.
No, I bet it was too
coked up to feel much pain
at all. Yeah.
See the tears running down their faces?
Who knows? I bet they felt the pain, but.
I bet they did.
Let's go on to the next
one.
Americans agree we see
too many political ads.
Yes, we do.
Some countries have legal limits on
candidate ads. For instance, Canada's
campaign season is typically less than
three months. In Mexico, it's 90
days as though that's some kind of
difference in three months.
In Argentina, it's 60 days.
This is really, truly written for
stupid people.
It's 60 days in France.
Election campaigning is usually about two
weeks long. Meanwhile, in America,
candidates announced they're running up to two years
in advance. But that doesn't mean
we like it. The majority of Americans
64% believe that there are too
many political ads.
I guess I have to agree
with them. I don't like it.
But I, at the same time,
wouldn't propose
to stop it.
I, you know, whatever.
This is
what your system has wrought, ladies
and gentlemen. It is
so valuable right now
to become president
or a senator or representative
that the parties are willing to spend
millions and millions
of dollars to get there. And
more importantly,
people, wealthy people,
corporations are willing
to donate in order
to get those
positions, to get the favors from people who
get into those positions.
And that's what it comes down to.
And
I mean, Americans know it.
What are we going to do about it?
We have to get the
politicians who benefit from this
qui bono, right? Who benefits?
We have to get the politicians who benefit
from this to stop it.
And they're not going to stop it.
No, they're not going to stop it.
This is even the part that everybody knows about.
It gets a lot
more shady than that.
But I mean,
most people do know that
that's how it is. Your government's for sale
to the highest bidder.
The next one.
This is what we call talk radio hell.
Are you guys prepared?
Yeah, let's do it.
You know what talk radio hell is, guys?
Not exactly, but
I'm sure you'll tell us.
Abortion.
Abortion should be legal
in many cases.
On June 24, 2020,
the Supreme Court overturned
Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion
federally. Since then, many states
have outlawed or restricted abortion.
But most Americans disagree
with the court according to this poll.
64%
believe abortion should be legal in
most or all cases.
And 59% believe that Roe v.
Wade shouldn't have been overturned.
Now, I would disagree.
I think Roe v. Wade was bad law.
I don't think that
it, you know, we currently
states decide what
homicide is and how it's defined.
But for some reason,
the killing of
infants needed to be
federally allowed.
And I just think that's wrong.
Now, I think everybody
can agree that, you know,
the terminology I use, they know where I'm
at, but they don't.
I, in fact, believe
that if you
are committed enough
to go to Planned Parenthood
or some other abortion clinic
and kill your offspring, your unborn
offspring, that you should
absolutely think you should,
because you clearly are an unfit
mother. And that kid is
very likely to grow up and be
awful.
Yeah, I kind of, I don't know, sort
of agree along those lines.
Epigenetic expression can turn out
a lot of different ways, and I don't think
that, I don't think that, you know,
sometimes the
fruit does fall quite a ways from
the tree, but it does. My only concern
about this approach is how you, that
this approach might incentivize
people from, for just, I'll
just have sex and have a hookup or whatever
and forget pregnant, I'll just abort the baby.
So I
can understand the concern
behind that, but also I agree with you, Mark
that, you know, if you're going to
go through it, then you should just go through
with it, because you're going to be a bad mom anyway.
You're irresponsible.
Well, yeah, and I agree
that is the, what you're doing
there is you've murdered your offspring.
However, I don't think it's
any of the state's business
whether you're going to murder your offspring.
I don't use the term murder. I like
homicide. Homicide simply says
the killing of a human.
Okay.
Oh, murder has
pretty,
that denotes
what do they call it, premeditation.
Is that right? It doesn't necessarily, but
it, you know, I just prefer, I just
don't like that term personally.
I think homicide is a,
as factual as you can get.
But, yeah.
I tend to use murder because it's a little more offensive and
you know,
the killing of an unborn baby
is kind of offensive to me.
I think it's funny that the vast majority
of people that are pro-life
vote Republican
and therefore are trying to save
the people in the party
that are on the other side
because it's true.
Democrats probably
you know, comfortably
have 80%,
80% of the abortions.
And
Democrats who are in the benefitting
side of those voters
are like, no, no, just kill them.
Like it's just, it's sort of,
it's cross ways and
generally the parties don't go that way.
You have a very difficult time
finding a pro-life
liberal. I know a couple
but, you know,
they don't want of course somebody to be locked up
and I wouldn't either
want a doctor locked up for these things.
But, you know,
that's about the only way thing you can do, right?
That's what our system's designed to do is
lock up people who do bad things.
So, that's all you can do is lock up doctors.
That's not a very good system.
There's a...
You know, a good
healthy dose of shame
I think we go a lot longer way
with that than
being put in a cage for a little while.
And this is the difference between the
parties, right? Like the belief
systems of them. I don't think you can
shame Democrats
by, you know,
the pro-lifers saying,
hey, that's bad. We've been trying that
for decades and it's just not working.
That's true. It just seems to outrage them
and make them want to do it more.
Now, I would point out that this is another one of those
you bake the cake situations
because the vast majority of people
who are affected
by this are in
Republican states.
So, it's just going to cause
the leftists in
the Republican states to leave
more so.
And maybe, if you care deeply enough
about it, the righties to move
out of the Democratic states.
I really wonder
about
Democrats in Utah
and I wonder about
Republicans
in Portsmouth. Is it
Portland? I mean, they exist, right?
You know, they're there.
There's a lot of Democrats, especially
in Salt Lake City, Utah.
Plenty of them.
They might be the majority at this point.
Is it? I don't know.
Are you Mormon or born Mormon?
Yeah. Born into the Covenant,
as they say, yes.
Sue and I are both born LDS, yes.
Okay.
Yeah, I didn't know
that. All I know
is that there's a lot of good Mormons
in the libertarian sphere.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
It's because
Mormonism
heaps so much cognitive dissonance
on you that your shelf breaks
before most Americans.
And so you have to deal
with things.
Is that really true? You weren't indoctrinated
in some way with some minor libertarian
beliefs?
Well, I know Joseph Smith has been quoted
as saying that he teaches
people correct principles and allows
them to govern themselves, but
the church doesn't operate that way at all.
You have a prophet who dictates
to you what you should drink and what you should
wear. He said that, but he also
ran for president in the United States.
Yeah.
And he also talked about setting up
an entire nation of his own
that he would be a new Mohammed
to the world. He had a lot of interesting
things to say.
He's also made king of the world
at some point.
Who's this?
Joseph Smith.
The founder of
the Mormon religion.
And what is his name?
Joseph Smith.
I know Brigham Young
because of the university.
Yep.
He's the guy that took over the majority
after
Joseph Smith was murdered.
There was a minority?
Yes. The minority followed
Joseph Smith's wife and became
the
organized LDS church.
Now they've renamed
to a community of Christ.
Interesting.
How majority, how minority
was it?
That one was pretty minority.
There were also their splinter groups during
that time as well, but they're not
well known and talked about much.
And then when Polygamy was out a lot
he had further splintering.
Yes.
Then I know they're the fundamentalist LDS.
There's also another group
that practices Polygamy called
the Kingston group.
They also call themselves the Order.
They live in Northern Utah.
And so, yeah, there are a lot of
splinter groups after Polygamy.
And here's
I'm curious, maybe you guys know better than
me, Polygamy is a system
that does not work mathematically.
About as many
men are born as women
and if you're letting
the old guys have
three wives, that means
that for every
basically all the young guys
or nearly all of them, you'd have to be
a real butt kisser
in order to survive
this grist mill.
They don't get wives.
What happens?
How does it work?
In these smaller communities it really
causes a lot of havoc.
They
locally term
the young men lost boys.
They get rejected from their community.
In some cases they're allowed to come back
once they've made a certain amount of money
or something like that.
But it's very sad for the young men
because they've just turned out of the community
because there aren't enough
prospective wives for them.
I
don't know how
it was going to work out.
Very high standards on the young men
and then when they fail to reach those high
standards they say, you're out of here?
Yeah.
That makes sense. That's a good system
if you're going to do something
this dumb.
I don't know how it was supposed to work on
a large scale
except that
I know in the early days
of it there was a lot of
marrying the wives of people
who had died
or marrying
your buddy's wife in secret.
There was a lot of weird stuff going on.
Oh yeah.
Well this kind of
marrying widows made sense
when men died at 40
but marrying widows
when men died at 80
makes a lot less sense.
Yeah.
And this was
pretty civil war so people were still
drinking bad water and then
crapping themselves to death.
Death at 40
was probably still pretty common.
I don't know
what they had in mind for all this.
How that was
They probably just wanted extra wives
and they didn't really have much in mind.
Absolutely. That was the drive of it.
I don't know if he had
a long term plan for it. Probably not.
He switched things up on the fly
a lot.
He was a crafty guy Joseph Smith
studying his history.
He definitely was. I mean he was
treasure digging and
putting a rock in a hat and claiming to
translate a book.
It's absolutely the most American
religion ever invented.
It really is.
Well it's a very American invention.
Yeah. Americans love a good scam.
That's why they support government
and social security.
I guess
all religions can be boiled down
to a few funny little
phrases right and
gone after.
I think that
one thing that we could agree on
atheists or otherwise
is that
we, this species
was evolved or created
to believe
in a God is that
everybody does.
Every society does
and that
presumably the societies that did not
aren't here.
Maybe the Neanderthals
were atheists.
Whatever they were they didn't make it.
That's entirely possible.
Yeah.
The history of religion is very fascinating
to the way that
paganism was the
prevalent
belief across
the world at one point and then
Christianity became popular and then
there was kind of a struggle between them
and Christianity kind of paganized
and paganism kind of Christianized
and everything sort of gets
mixed together. There's so much
from the eastern traditions
that mix into the western traditions
and
it's because a lot of it
is sort of just allegorical
and
built on metaphors.
And it appeals.
It appeals to people. They want it.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, especially
with like Mormonism, who doesn't want to
be sealed to their family for eternity?
For eternity. Yeah.
That's their one, that's their biggest
goal to promise that they can, they have
the power to seal you to your loved ones
so that in the next life
In heaven? Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Yep, you'll be able to be with your... I just haven't
heard the terminology. With your family forever.
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U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio
said on Friday that the U.S.
can achieve its objectives in Iran
without needing to send in American
ground troops. Diplomatic efforts
to end the conflict are continuing,
but Rubio has suggested there was still
no direct communications.
Nick Harper reports from Washington.
A new timeline for this U.S.
operation in Iran now coming from
the Secretary of State Marco Rubio
saying that operations would
conclude at the appropriate time
but it would be weeks, not months.
He said that negotiations
had not begun in earnest
but that the U.S. had exchanged
messages with Iran and
received indications from the Iranians
about a willingness to talk
and still in the background is the possibility
of U.S. boots on the ground.
Rubio though said that the U.S.
could achieve its goals in Iran
without any ground troops.
That came after the U.S.
delayed a threat to attack Iran's
energy infrastructure to the 6th of April.
The U.S. President said the deadline
extension request came from Tehran.
Donald Trump added that talks were going
very well, but Iran's leadership
says the peace proposal floated by Washington
was excessive and unfair.
Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city
of Van near the Iran border.
Iran has not confirmed publicly
that it is in direct negotiations
with the United States
but it's understood that back channel
talks are being held between Washington
and Tehran with various countries
involved in conveying messages back and forth
including Egypt, Pakistan and
Turkey. According to reports
in the Wall Street Journal, Donald Trump
is considering sending another 10,000
ground troops to the Middle East
ahead of a possible incursion into Iran
on top of the more than 3,000 soldiers
already on their way to the Gulf.
A report from the OECD
predicts the UK economy will be hit
harder than any other industrialized nation
due to the conflict in the Middle East
with inflation expected to spike
and the jobs market weaken.
Stuart Smith has more from London.
Goods and services are likely to get
much more expensive, much more quickly
as the U.S. and Israeli war with Iran
drags on and the United Kingdom
is going to be particularly hard hit
according to the OECD's analysis.
Inflation was predicted to be
2.5% this year but is now
forecast to be 4%.
That will impact UK growth more than
similar nations like Italy, France
and Germany who analysts say
are less exposed to energy shocks.
For London that means a predicted 40%
decrease in annual growth
this year, even if
oil and commodity prices stabilised by
summer. The think tank claims
efforts to increase domestic energy
use and rely less on imported fuels
should help. The UK government
says it's already doing that but opposition
parties claim the disproportionate
impact of the war on the British economy
is evidence that the government's
policies aren't working.
The International Olympic Committee this week
banned transgender women from Olympic
competition, saying the new policy
promotes fairness. The eligibility
change comes after U.S. President
Donald Trump signed an executive order
last year banning transgender
girls and women from competing in
female sports ahead of the
2028 Los Angeles summer games.
Tony Waterman reports. Under the
new policy, only biological
females will be allowed to compete in
the Olympics starting in 2028.
Their sex will be determined
by a mandatory one-time
genetic test. IOC
president, Kirstie Coventry
said the decision was based on science
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that rely on strength, power
and endurance.
At the Olympic Games, even the smallest
margins can be the difference between
victory and defeat. So it's
absolutely clear that it would not
be fair for biological males to compete
in the female category. It's unclear
how many, if any
athletes may be impacted.
The IOC says these individuals
would still be eligible to compete
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there was some good news this week and
endangered mountain gorilla has given
birth to twins in the east of the
Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Conservationists say twin births are
very rare in mountain gorillas.
Chris Ottingeringa has more from Kinshasa.
Park Rangers at the
Virunga National Park found a gorilla
nesting twins deep in the
dense rainforest in the east of the
Democratic Republic of Congo.
The female gorilla from the Baraka family
delivered a female and a male baby.
Experts say twins are extremely rare
in mountain gorillas, accounting
for less than one percent of
births. Park Rangers are monitoring
them to ensure they grow into
adults. The Virunga National Park
is a very dangerous place for wild
animals and park rangers because
many rebels and poachers operate
in the area. The twins birth comes
two months after another gorilla
delivered twins.
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and I want to bring up that it is Palm Sunday
today in the western
Christian calendar at least
and this marks
in their minds the
last week of Jesus's life
and traditionally
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Indeed.
Alright, so
things that Americans agree upon
we've
been through quite a list here
at this point
illegal immigration
is a problem
a solid 61%
believe that illegal immigration is a problem in the United States
furthermore 59%
of Americans see the solution
at the border
see the situation excuse me at the border as a crisis.
So, apparently
2% of people do not think it's a crisis
but do think that it's a problem
what
and you know
what are the solutions I don't know
the politicians sure haven't given us any
in this amount of time and I think it's because
they all benefit
right the Democrats want people
to become here and be
subjugated so that they feel like
you know they should be part of the Democratic Party
because that's the party of the subjugated people
and the Republicans
want to keep these folks illegal
because that's what their big donors want
because they're these big corporations
that sort of feed off this slave
labor market
oh but Mark people are gonna
people on the right are gonna argue though
Trump's deporting a ton of illegals already
well
I sure he's deporting
some but I mean you can't like how are you
gonna deport the millions that's not a solution
that's just talking points and don't
forget that ISIS slowed down ever since
they shot a couple of people
that obviously for no good reason
um you know that's it's
it's just not a winning solution
you can't have a border crack down
without
a police state
you know you might put more people on the border
I get it you know play
you know play uh
I don't know red rover with the
immigrants to the border fine and dandy
whatever but
you really can't stop
the you know what are you gonna do
about the people that are here
there's not a really good solution for that
you know as AI gets worse
and the uh the big brother
gets more intrusive I think it'll be easier
to find illegals but
you know just going around and asking
people questions that's a bad system
and it just
gives the democrats more to vote for
yeah I agree
yeah
so um
now I would take I will take
the hoppian uh stance on this
which is I believe
that the united states
government owns all the land
called the united states
even if you own your land
you just
you're just a long term lessor
with the right of survivorship
that if you pay
tax on your land and I don't know
anybody inside the you know
48 contiguous states who does not
if you pay tax
on your land to whom are you paying it
and why are you paying
it if you own it
because I own some things and I do not pay
tax on those things I may have paid
a tax when I bought it
but I don't have to pay to keep it
that sounds much more like a rental agreement
that it does
like an ownership agreement
so I would contend
that the united states government
by proxy um of all these
you know states and counties and whatever
owns the government
and therefore at the very least
I would contend that your state owns
your property
and therefore they are the ones
who can come up with the immigration
policy and that you
are voluntary surf on their land
that's about right
if you want
to be not a voluntary surf
then you need to pick another location
and I can
tell you about those locations
but
I would contend the vast majority of people
listening to me are better off
just understanding that you're a voluntary
surf
rather than just give it up
this isn't a government by the people
of the people for the people
it's none of those things
you're just
the modern version of a subject
right the king changed
from one
leader
5000 miles away to 5000
one mile away
but the power didn't
the power is still there
you're still a surf on the land
and you still have to pay your
your bushel of wheat
or whatever it is that you've got to give up
and you've got to produce it
and you've got to make it
so there it is
that's I believe really the solution
and do I like it
no
I think this country was made great
by immigrants
and I think we'd be better off
if we would simply come up with an immigration policy
that would steal
all the good
people of all the other countries away from them
and leave them
with the criminals and the rapists
and the evil people
yeah
seems like it should be doable too
it's so easy
it'd be absolutely easy
hey score 138
on one of our IQ tests
that we administer in your country
at our embassy
and we'll let you come in
or pay us
$100,000
and we'll let you have a citizenship
but you have to denounce your old one
or whatever it is
these are just things that are coming off the top of my head
and bringing this up
and I'm sure that brighter minds
can come up with better systems
than even this
but it's absolutely ludicrous
the United States sends people away
that would work hard
and pay taxes
and brings people in
that want to get paid to be here
that's right they deport the roofer
and they bring in the welfare recipient
well the right always says
I love immigration
but I just want them to come here legally
sure and if
you know if it's easier to swim
the Rio Grande
than it is to climb the mountain
of bureaucracy
anybody who says that
has never experienced what it's like
to try to get into this country
and it gets more and more difficult every year
I'm dealing with it right now
I don't even like a little bit of paperwork
I bet that's a whole lot of paperwork
and a whole lot of lawyer fees
I imagine
that's what it really comes down to right
well somebody else
who's got an opinion on immigration
I'm sure is David in New Mexico
so we'll go to the phones David
you're on free talk live what's on your mind
thanks for that segue Mark
swim the Rio Grande in fact I was down
swimming the Rio Grande
getting my back wet a couple summers ago
on a good American holiday
Labor Day
and when I came back to my truck
after wetting my back
in the Rio Grande
and
some illegals
a whole SUV full of six illegals
were driving off and my battery
was missing out of my truck
oh they like batteries
yeah
so thank you illegal immigration
okay and the illegals
that live next door to me
I've had to call the cops on them
like I don't know literally a hundred times
in the two years that they've been here
because they don't behave like what you do
so now I don't totally disagree
with you Mark I agree with you
and I disagree with you
in probably equal parts
and
so rather than me just
shot gunning it let me ask
you Mark if you would please pick one of the points
that you just laid out and I can
I would like to speak to whatever point
that you choose
I think that the United States should
have some system
be it IQ test or
you know military
service or money
whatever
in order to allow people to
jump the line
in immigration
I agree with you Mark I think that's a
great idea because I
love it that you are
very warfare oriented
because that is
the same warfare techniques
that for instance the Chinese are using
against you right now or against not
we'll leave Mark out of it
because he'll deny that he's part of it
against me
and I would allege the rest of our nation
and the rest of the world
there's a phrase for that type of warfare
unrestricted warfare
the Chinese generals wrote a book on it
and that's one of the things that's a good
modern warfare tactic
aside from prior to
in addition or before
labeling it as unrestricted warfare
it was also a good
you know social policy
and a good business policy
to recruit
the best and the brightest
from wherever you can get them
and then the warfare part of it
is that you're denying the use
of those brains and brawn
from your enemies
which is everybody else
especially the ones that aren't white you know
I threw that in there for effect
I'm not sure where the Chinese
comes with the Chinese I need a little help here
there is a
there is a book and I'm sure that
is this the three body problem
pardon the three body problem
I don't know
Stu probably knows that I'm talking about
if he does he's welcome to interject or and or Riley
there was a book an actual book
or paper or a treatise or whatever
that was written by
I believe it's three
high ranking Chinese generals
on unrestricted warfare
and that we're experiencing right now
it's in full effect against us
China against
the whole world but especially the United States
Stu I don't want to just come out and ask
Stu Riley do you know what I'm talking about
I have no idea what you're talking about honestly
sorry there's a book called
unrestricted warfare is an influential
military strategy book
by PLA colonels
Kwai Ling and Wang Zhang Shu
focusing on defeating
technologically superior opponents
yeah it's okay sorry
non-traditional means
economic, cyber, legal
and terror
there you go
so all of that
that's exactly what we're talking about
it's good to bring in smart people
because we will be
we will use them in a terror war against China
I need help
I'm being sarcastic
but actually
it's bad to bring in intelligent people
because they will be used against us
it's good and bad
it's good and bad the bottom line
is the good outweighs the bad
because this addresses
and what I'm about to say
in addressing that point how it's
good and bad and that the good outweighs
the bad also addresses another point
that you made earlier on this
subject and you'll see what it is here in a moment
and that's how to filter them out
so bring in the best
and the brightest and yes when you bring them in
oh and by the way when I was in college
I lived in a rooming house that had 20 rooms
and 12 of them were
occupied by Chinese spies
they were all graduate students
and so
but what you do is you bring in
the best and the brightest and yes
China will sneak in their spies
because they're all spies
but then you need to do
you have to have filtering process in place
and there's nothing wrong with papers please
because if you are a society
without papers please
you will become the American Indian
so where would the paper please
acceptable so like somebody
standing around saying you need to have
well for instance right there
on interstate
10 and interstate 40
I think 40 goes
near your house
they have checkpoints
where they will stop
every car and ask you if you're a US
citizen now it's easy
to just you know be me
and go through but I didn't do that
I said am I being
detained do you have
reasonable articulable suspicion that I've
committed a crime and kind of
went through this little rigamarole with them
you can find it on YouTube
I'm not sure what it's under but I'm sure it's
am I being detained
is somewhere in there and
it's um yeah
I mean you know I don't like
the idea personally of being
detained without reasonable articulable suspicion
because I consider it unconstitutional
let me address what you just said
I agree with you
under normal circumstances but what you're
not factoring in is that
I mean some other
people not you and me created this
country and if they hadn't done that for us
we wouldn't even be having this conversation but they did
that and so we're having this conversation
and when they created
this country for us that we're in now
instead of this being you know Britain
or whatever it would be with a different set of rules
they made some rules and
part of the rules is pertaining to the
border the rules are not
the same as other than the border
and the the rules about
well this isn't at the border though
40 doesn't go through the border
40 is inside the country
checkpoint so these are
the border is not considered to be one line
the border patrol
has jurisdiction I believe to like
100 miles inside of the border
or 200 miles
or 500 miles or yeah who knows
I believe
100 if they can arbitrarily say
100 miles can't they arbitrarily
say 1000
well I don't think well they could but
they didn't do it arbitrarily I'm
certain and I can't fight it but I'm
certain that if I did research it we
could find the enabling legislation
that non
arbitrarily although I guess it's
arbitrary if you got a bunch of humans sitting around
deciding okay how many miles
okay 100 you know on one
hand it's arbitrary on the other hand
there was some sort of logic
reason deduction that went into them
concluding that 100 miles is a
reasonable number but they
put it into law and they enabled
they did the enabling legislation
I'm sure and it probably
I can see I'll concede that
what I would further
you know spar with you on
this one is that the founders
who did write that constitution
didn't see fit
to enable the federal
government to handle immigration they
only gave them naturalization
and that left immigration
to the states now
unfortunately I think
that very likely Arizona
and Texas would be
very strict with their borders but
I don't think New Mexico
you know that wrote its constitution
both Spanish and English would be quite
so draconian
well I don't know that if you
come here and you and you talk to
New Mexican, New Mexican, New Mexican
well actually they don't feel like that this Mexican
but the New Mexicans here are not big fans
of Mexicans
per se especially when they come across the border
illegal they don't consider themselves
at all and you can find videos
recorded in downtown Albuquerque
of some Mexicans that were here
doing off-road racing and some New Mexicans
that were buddies with them
doing some off-road racing
consider themselves to be cousins but we're not the same people
we're different people
and so they don't consider it at all the same
even though you know back before New Mexico
became a U.S. territory
or I'm sorry even after it became a territory
the New Mexicans
that were here after it became a territory
were referred to as Mexicans
if they were non-white
because they were they used to be Mexicans so they're Mexicans
but
so nowadays the citizens
I mean what percent of the citizens
I don't know but a lot of
you know slightly tanned
Native New Mexicans
whose families have been here for
400 years
going all the way back to the conquistadors
they're not down with
the Mexicans coming across
illegally across the border for one thing
they're also the ones that come across the border illegal
are typically
they're Indians they're American Indians
and the New Mexicans
that we're talking about are a mix of
Spaniard and American Indian
like 85-15 kind of thing
and so I kind of went off a little bit
so did that give you any insight as to
New Mexico
you know interestingly people who are
Indian or First Nation as they call them in Canada
can move across the U.S. Canadian
border with no issues at all
it's part of a treaty
but people who are
Indian
sort of unrecognized Indian tribes
from Mexico
don't have the same advantages
and I think that that's because
you know if the tribe
is from north of the Rio Grande
and the concomitant lines that go with it
then they're Indians but if it's south
they're just Mexicans
well that's a racism thing
on the part of the Mexicans
because here's the deal
well he was a close friend
we were not in contact anymore
but he was basically my singular
best friend for several years
and his name was Nacho Ignacio Salazar
and he was born in Mexico
and every morning he would wake up
and he would cross the border and come to school
in the United States
not Lord'sburg
it doesn't matter if I think of it I'll tell you
but anyway he would come across the border
go to school and then go back across the border
and go home because they could just go back
and forth across the border and get free school
in the United States and instead of Mexico
and so he just at one point he just
you know as an adult started living here
and lived here all of his life
now he was mad
at his own family
because his own family
told him that he was
Spanish, Spanish, Spanish, Spanish, Spanish
and he found out as an adult
that he had a good percentage
and specific ancestors
that were 100% Indian
Native American
and the point there is
why Nacho, why that
well because they're racist
they try to sweep it under the carpet
they don't want it to be known
that they have mixed race in their family
it's a
you know up
one up one down
you're low class if you're an Indian
and you're higher class if you're all Spaniard
and so that's what they did because
it's racist and that was
all in Mexico that we didn't do that
absolutely and then it's
that was true here
you know with say Blacks
in Louisiana
you'd have quadrunes or octunes
or whatever and people would pass
you know I don't think that that's
evidence of racism
personally I think it's evidence of practicality
if you can do better
by being part of
the in-group then you can by being
part of the out-group and who can't
then be part
of the in-group if you can be part of the in-group
true but like
I said in the case that that I gave they were
actually embarrassed of it and tried to hide it
because they didn't want anybody to know
not not just that they would take advantage
of being able to you know pass
well that's that that's the best way
for people not to know they probably
presumed that if they told
their son that he was
a Spaniard as opposed to
you know an Indian then
their son would repeat that
and it would make the lie more true
and this was before 23
and me and people would know these things
and you know who could predict that
I didn't you know I couldn't predict that
I didn't think about it
and I didn't hear any predictions and so
I again I give the parents
lots of leeway in this I don't call that
racism I don't call that unacceptable
but I also don't
think
so the protection of life liberty and
properties is what the Free State Project
thought about but it's an effort to move
20,000 people who understand
it's about demonstrating
to the entire country that yeah we can
have a free market a truly
free market making it just a free
a great place to live it's
the world's largest
volunteerist libertarian community
and it's only getting bigger
that's amazing to be able to move to a
place where other people like passionately
believe in being free and independent
what the Free State Project is managing to do though
is to put their money where their mouth is
physically getting up across the country
and saying let's go someplace and let's demonstrate
the power of these ideas there's
a lot of kind of philosophy
that surrounds liberty there's a lot of thinking
about it and talking about it but here in New Hampshire
people are doing it
101 Reasons Liberty Lives in New Hampshire
a documentary by Free State Project
Early Movers watch it free
at 101reasonsFilm.com
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It's understood that back channel talks
and Tehran with various countries
and forth.
The U.S. President said the deadline
extension request came from Tehran
though that's not yet been confirmed
by Iran.
Donald Trump added that talks were going
very well but Iran's leadership says
the peace proposal floated by the U.S.
was excessive and unfair.
Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city
Iran near the Iran border.
It's understood that back channel talks
are being held between Washington
and Tehran with various countries
involved in conveying messages back and forth
according to reports in the Wall Street Journal
Donald Trump is considering sending
another 10,000 ground troops
to the Middle East ahead of a possible
incursion into Iran.
India is cutting taxes on petrol
and diesel as concerns mount
over a hike in fuel prices
due to the war in West Asia.
The cut could help oil-selling companies
recoup some of their heightened costs
due to supply disruptions
and if passed on
could also help consumers save more money.
Ishan Garg tells us more
from New Delhi.
The Indian government has cut down
excise duty on petrol and diesel
by roughly 10% each
but it's unclear if that benefit
will actually reach the common public.
Analysts say it will help oil companies
most of which are government owned
manage their costs.
Concerns about fuel inflation have been looming
since the war in Gulf started a month ago.
India relies on imported fuel
for about 80% of its needs
and the country is preparing
for the long haul with Prime Minister
Narendra Modi warning of hard times
ahead if the conflict drags on.
He's holding a meeting
with the chiefs of Indian states on Friday
with an eye on managing fuel supplies.
Pakistan's aviation
sectors incurred losses of around
72 million dollars
as airspace disruptions linked to the
Iran war continued to ripple
across the region.
Hundreds of flights to Middle Eastern countries
are being cancelled each day
affecting passengers and businesses
reliant on regional connectivity.
Here in Mustapha reports from Islamabad.
Pakistani officials say
flights to Dubai, Doha,
Abu Dhabi, Muscat and Sharjah
have been severely disrupted
amid the ongoing regional crisis.
They warned the situation is taking
a toll on passengers
and dealing a heavy blow to the aviation sector.
Pakistan's national
carrier PIA has cancelled
more than 500 flights
so far.
Flights that are still operating
are being forced to take longer routes
driving up fuel consumption
and insurance costs linked to war risk
exposure.
A US sector of state marker Rubio is joining
G7 counterparts in France
for talks on the conflict in Iran
and the war in Ukraine.
The UK is among several powers expressing concerns
over Moscow allegedly sharing
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The Oscar tonight is
Stu, Riley O'Bell
and Mark Edge.
And we
do have colors on the line so we're going to
go to Lamar Colorado.
What's on your mind tonight?
Listening to the show
for the first time, very interesting topics.
I'm curious about
your checkpoint that you went through
in I-10 and I-40.
How were you able to prove your US citizenship
when you were questioned?
Sure, this one was in particular
outside of El Paso on
I-10.
I can't tell you the year but
I'm going to say
8
to 10 years ago.
They didn't ask
me to prove.
It was really just a situation
where a Hispanic
looking gentleman
says, you know, what's your citizenship?
Right?
I'm not giving you my citizenship.
Am I being detained?
Am I free to go?
No, you're not being detained.
Okay, then I'll leave.
No, you can't leave.
Oh, then I'm being detained.
What reasonable, articulable suspicion do you have
that I've committed a crime?
You're not being detained, right?
Like, is this sort of roundabout thing
that goes on for a little while?
Then they take some dogs to sniff the car
and then I say, well, what are you
looking for? See, I knew this was a drug
stop. We're not looking for drugs.
We're looking for immigrants, illegal
immigrants. And I said, well, what do they smell like?
Because there's people in the car, right?
And I remember
that was a great quip. What do they smell like?
And, you know,
fundamentally it's a very privileged
thing to do. I was in
no risk whatsoever, because
at any point I could say, I was born
in Sarasota, Florida
and you and I know it, right?
I can't say that.
I was born overseas. My dad
was active duty military.
My mother was born over
in France. My grandparents
were in an internment camp in East Germany
during World War II.
So my mother came to the States
in 1953 through Ellis Island
to become a U.S. citizen.
And later married my father.
Because she was Polish,
my father, being an active duty
army, lost his top secret
security clearance because of
really former
citizenship being close to Russia.
I am a U.S. citizen. I'm
a military veteran.
I even held ATS clearance.
And the only way to hold that is to be
a U.S. citizen and only a U.S.
citizen. But when
we get into these things about
are you a citizen pop here in
Bitta with the border patrol
stuff. Yeah, I wasn't born here
guys, but I am a citizen.
How do I prove that to you?
Yeah, that's, well, I suspect
it just comes down to accent
and yours passes the muster.
They're not even going to ask
a question when it comes to it.
They're looking for the obvious
situation.
I pass through those things
nonverbally all the time
that ask the question.
I'd give kind of half a head nod
and they'd be like, all right, on your way.
And previously that's what I had done too.
I just ran up on somebody who
wasn't going to let me through.
Thanks for the call.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Have a good day. You too.
Thanks for the call. Always
nice to have a new color. Absolutely.
We've got
Creighton in Kentucky who is not
a new color, but is a good color.
Creighton, what's on your mind?
Hi guys, it's been a long
time since I called in part because
I've been on a kind of a
no-screen digital internet
fast.
And it's an interesting thing
that you that you
experienced something like that in the middle
of a war.
So
I started right at the beginning
of
the attack on Iran
and
I was kind of surprised
that it was still going on when I
came out of it.
And
I'm interested
in
my spirit host
opinion
on this whole thing with Iran.
Mark Edge,
my spirit host
Yep.
What do you think about what's
going on over there? Well, just
to, you know, to remove all doubt
from anybody's mind, I was against this war
before it started. And I'm against
the next one that started too.
And I don't care which one
of the
megalomaniacs that are occupying
the White House starts it.
But
I was impressed with the
Venezuelan conflict
over and done with in an instant, right?
Like they toppled a country in an hour
or something.
Impressive. I'm not supporting it.
I'm just impressed.
And with this one, I don't
it doesn't seem like it's going quite so
well.
I, you know, I mean
the idea that Trump and
his, well, he's responsible.
He's the he's the guy given
calling the shots. And there
was a
elementary school full of
kids that was killed.
And I think it's
it's it's terrible and it's
sad. And that's the cost of war.
And personally, I'm not willing to
pay it. So
you know, go and have your war
but not with me.
Yeah. Personally, I think he's
stepped right in it with this one.
Like you said, the Venezuelan thing
went off without a hitch. And
I think I think so. He got a little too cocky
some of his advisors were just telling him, look,
we can do Iran next. And it'll go off
exactly the same way. But he
after that, but he didn't do his rating up
because Iran's been
waiting for this for a long time.
They were
not surprised by it.
I'm a veteran in the Marine Corps
and that gives me
a different perspective than most
libertarians.
Generally speaking, I am
I have a bias against war.
But I
am not anti-war.
And I had to look
at this one. And my opinion is a little
different, I think, than Mark
said.
The thing of it is, is that
I look at it the same way you look at
when two people fighting, you know,
the
rule
about who threw the first punch.
And
and if you look at it in the short
term, you look at it and you think,
well, obviously Donald Trump
threw the first punch. And I don't think
that's true.
Because
if you look at the totality
of
what the things that have happened
since the Iran
the current regime in Iran has taken over
you can connect
either directly or indirectly
Iran, the government
of Iran to
practically everything
that has gone badly
or wrong
or harshly in the Middle East.
I disagree.
Okay, you can disagree. That's fine.
You're going to make the claim that
Israel hasn't been the cause of anything
bad in the Middle East? No, I'm not.
Oh, okay. I'm not
pro-Israel.
I'm not pro-government. I think Israel's
government is just as bad as most other
governments. But Iran's
government, the current government
anyway, is uniquely
bad. And that
they have been
not necessarily throwing punches
but throwing
fake punches and pulling their punches
right at the last inch
of our nose
for the West
nose for 50 years.
So I don't know if you know how these things
work but what actually happens is
a banker sneaks up in between two guys
and he punches one of them and then moves
and when the guy turns around
and he sees not the banker, he gets in a fight
with the wrong guy and that's how it works
and the banker always benefits.
All wars are bankers' wars.
All wars are bankers' wars
but not all bankers'
benefits.
No, not all bankers'
benefit but there is always a banker
the benefits.
Maybe.
I will not contest.
I'll give you that given
but based on the idea
that
Iran has been
involved
in so much
chaos
in the Middle East
for the past 50 years
and the United States in particular
but the West in general has been
trying very hard
to maintain the
reduce the chaos.
It seems like...
Like fomenting coups
and placing
sanctions on countries
and that's how you keep order?
Yes.
Regime changes
and starving populations.
One does wonder
being the preferred trading partner
of China, I hasn't exactly worked
for dealing with that regime
either.
I don't know what the best solution
for propagating regime changes
around the world.
I mean
I can see the point
where a direct intervention
as opposed to wishing for
good luck
happens.
But when it comes to the trolley scenario
I say the guy who pulled the levers
responsible
and Trump decided
in the trolley scenario that it was worth
pulling the lever that he would
the benefits would outweigh
the costs and
I mean
I just think that by pulling the lever
he became responsible for what was going on
over there in a way that he wasn't
previously responsible for.
I do have a question
that in a modern world
when
the people obviously want regime
change
and they can't get it because
technology
has gotten to the point that it allows
totalitarian governments to have so much
power
then what
do other countries do?
I don't have an answer to that
and
like you Creighton, I shall not
shed a tear over
any of the
leadership of Iran that might be killed
here and there. But I do
wonder
what the mothers and fathers of those children
that were killed say
about US intervention
like does it seem worth it to them
and I suspect the answer is no.
I also suspect the answer would be no.
We definitely
did see a lot of videos
of young people
Iran favoring
regime change
but that doesn't mean
skeptical on those.
That's not useful information
because
that's a cherry
picked viewpoint
and definitely does not necessarily
re-represent anything close to
majority of the population.
But that's also beside the point
because
I think
the goal is actually
to deplete
Iran's
ammunition
and I think
there's been a wonderful job of doing that.
So tell me of that tactic
maybe you're looking at this differently than I am
I don't know how many missiles Iran
has. I suspect they were
lying about it. I had a friend who
was a quarter master for
US tank battalion
and he said that any given moment
that one-third
of their tanks were out of commission now
I know I can go up online and look
at how many tanks the US has and how many
Russia has and these kind of things. I would presume
these numbers are even greater
for Russia. But one-third
of US tanks are out of commission at any given time
at the end of their war
game training that goes
on for a week or two weeks. I can't remember
what he said
that at that point
another third of their
tanks are out of commission
so presuming that these
tanks are coming in and out of
service all the time
about half of our tanks are out of commission
at any one time
I presume Iran who's been under sanctions
for decades
that is building these bombs
these missiles excuse me
that they have a difficult time
finding parts
and fuel and all these
things. I've heard stories
about the Chinese
military using the
rocket fuel to
cook up whatever marmot they
managed to catch recently
and I suspect that those sorts of things
go on in very poor places
and
so I kind of think
they don't have anywhere near the missiles
that we've been told
and I'm kind of wondering if they're out of missiles almost
entirely
well probably
and I can say that that was near
a certainty because they just recently
released 3,500
marines of
Apache helicopter
and
ATIN warthog units over there
and both of those
weapon systems are
ground attack
but they're also very vulnerable
to missiles
the service to air missiles
so you don't introduce
those weapons systems into an
environment where you don't have absolute control of the air
so
there's the very fact that they're bringing those
out of mothball because basically
both of those systems are old
right the ATIN
was retired essentially
you're not kidding when you say mothball
they tried to give them to you
Ukrainians so they're like hell no
we don't want them we'd rather not go
up in the air than go up in an ATIN
but the claim is
is that the ATIN is uniquely
suited to take down these
bathtubs that the
Iranians are calling their
navy at this point
and they are
attacked from the area to hit surface
targets
exactly what the ATIN is good at
it's just a flying gatlin gun
yeah well that's what it is
well Crichton you haven't
convinced me to support the war but
you knew you weren't going to anyway
but I do appreciate
I have some
commiseration with where you're at
on the point but
I just can't
I know how inefficient the government is
I kind of feel like
the Trump administration is
attempting to distract us from
perhaps some more domestic issues
that they wish would go away
I kind of agree with that
and thanks for the call today Crichton
I can't get behind the war
or pretty much any war
I've never seen a
proper justification that made me say
yeah that war
we definitely should have gotten involved in
not even World War I
not one war
I'm against World War I
but I think that
well what about when the
Texans took
Mexico
took Texas
from Mexico
and then
the United States intervened
and essentially
beat Santa Ana
I think that that's probably the most
justifiable war
that I can come up with
in US history
I know a lot of people want me to say
World War II and the Nazis and those kind of
things but I don't think you can separate
World War I
and the decisions that the allied
pallors made there
from World War II
those
decisions had concomitant issues
and I'm just not prepared
to agree with World War II
but I think the Mexican-American
war
is the most justifiable
what do you think?
I guess that might be the closest
to justifiable but I still couldn't
get behind it
What about the Revolutionary War?
That was the one I was going to go with Riley
thank you
Go ahead
I think the Revolutionary War
was more of a
a show than anything else
I really don't think there was a lot
genuine that happened there
I think it was
50% manufactured
and just written into the history books
may not have happened in the first place
and 50% was just a small group of people
who had a plan to do a thing
and make it look like something else
What did they do to make it look like a Revolutionary War?
I'm open to the idea
that this is
Thomas Payne pamphlets
talking about
for the cause
tea party
that kind of stuff
it very much rings true with modern-day propaganda techniques
and social engineering
I think it's social engineering
and propaganda techniques
I'm not disagreeing with that part
but the question is what occurred
and what didn't occur
I have to
this is the difficulty of my job
as a talk show host
is I have to look at something
something out there is a fact
and of course some of it
is just fabrications
I don't have an answer
I feel like the Revolutionary War has been whitewashed
and we didn't hear about
many of the
loyalists that got tarred and feathered
and things like that
that there was
these people were
basically punished without a trial
and that sounds very un-American
but probably happened
I don't know a lot of that was probably
just political enemies
or something that needed to be cancelled
in the end result
there was a pause in the war
for a little while and then it started up again in 1812
and that one ended in a draw
I don't think America
ever gained their independence
exactly
I think they've always been under the control of
some very European
they call themselves
round table groups
there's a book called Tragedy and Hope
that explains all of this very well
yeah I have
the author of Tragedy and Hope
has been here on Free Talk Live
I haven't listened to it
and
well I often
am engrossed
in these
tales of these
smoky smoke filled rooms
where those that would
rule us make deals
with each other and these things
the powers that ought not be
that is wonderful
I just don't know how to
address it
and I'm going to have to give
the revolutionary war
if we're going to call it a war rather than a rebellion
I would have to give it
the highest marks
as far as
US reasons for war
now I will go ahead and take marks away
for the reasons that I'm about to give
we literally have an AB test
as to
Canada and the United States
right like one of them
secedes from the union the other one doesn't
they have the same population
almost everything is the same
by the way some loyalists move north
to Canada and you know those kind of things
and when
you look at the heritage foundations
freedom of the world
now heritage foundation no one would accuse
the
them of being some kind of
libertarian think tank
I mean they're conservative
freest countries I'm looking up
the Canada is actually
listed
as
a freer place in the United States
that's right here's freedom
house
there's a few different of these
here it is heritage economic freedom
heritage.org
index of economic freedom
and
view rankings for all countries by the way
the United States not in the top
not in the top
probably not over here
probably not in the top 10 or
maybe even 20
right so I'm looking
for their number overall
score that'll do it
Singapore Switzerland Ireland
Australia Taiwan Luxembourg
Denmark by the way
Liechtenstein's too small to make this
list but it would probably be number
one
Denmark Norway Estonia Netherlands Sweden
New Zealand these are economic
freedoms you may disagree on something else
Finland Canada
Lithuania Iceland Chile Cyprus
South Korea Czech Republic
United States
right under Mauritius and right above
the UAE
so what number on the list is that
you know it doesn't have a number
just the way this thing is designed
but I'm gonna say
it's somewhere around 20
20 20 to 30 and Canada's
higher now
by the way
the raw score is
call it three
points higher out of a hundred
nobody gets a hundred
Singapore has
scrolling and by the way
not the you know the
most socially free place but
economically quite free 84.4
Canada is
75.2
United States is
73 excuse me that's
Czech Republic 72.8
so
when you look at this
you can see that
somebody who did
did the study found that Canada
came out freer than the United States
did quite a bit for
so a revolutionary war
in order to free you from a monarch
5000 miles away
apparently isn't a good choice
turn out to be a bad trade
yeah now I'm not saying it's a
much worse choice is there's
not a big trade here but
you know the things that we pride
ourselves on the most
as libertarians may not even
be that effectual for
gaining freedom now we certainly got
independence but you know the
trade of one monarch 5000
miles away for
5000 monarchs one mile away I
wouldn't make
well some interesting
things have come out of it
such as the
celebration of the right to bear arms
has effectively resulted in
a lot of guns in the hands of
American citizens which
is a big problem for
the powers that ought not be
because they would rather that you
not have them so they can boss you around
a lot easier
yeah free men can own guns
and the United States is by
far the gun owning
place in the world
yeah it's real gun even
you can find guns in other places though
I don't think guns make you free
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