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U.S. operation in Iran now coming from Secretary of State Marco Rubio, saying that operations

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would conclude at the appropriate time, but it would be weeks, not months.

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He said that negotiations had not begun in earnest, but that the U.S. had exchanged messages

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with Iran and received indications from the Iranians about a willingness to talk.

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And still in the background is the possibility of U.S. boots on the ground.

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Rubio, though, said that the U.S. could achieve its goals in Iran without any ground troops.

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That came after the U.S. delayed a threat to attack Iran's energy infrastructure to the 6th of April.

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The U.S. president said the deadline extension request came from Tehran.

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Donald Trump added that talks were going very well.

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But Iran's leadership says the peace proposal floated by Washington was excessive and unfair.

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Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city of Van near the Iran border.

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Iran has not confirmed publicly that it is in direct negotiations with the United States,

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but it's understood that back-channel talks are being held between Washington and Tehran

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with various countries involved in conveying messages back and forth, including Egypt, Pakistan and Turkey.

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According to reports in the Wall Street Journal,

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Donald Trump is considering sending another 10,000 ground troops to the Middle East

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ahead of a possible incursion into Iran on top of the more than 3,000 soldiers

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already on their way to the Gulf.

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A report from the OECD predicts the UK economy will be hit harder than any other industrialised nation

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due to the conflict in the Middle East, with inflation expected to spike and the jobs market weaken.

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Stuart Smith has more from London.

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Goods and services are likely to get much more expensive much more quickly

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as the U.S. and Israeli war with Iran drags on

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and the United Kingdom is going to be particularly hard hit according to the OECD's analysis.

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Inflation was predicted to be 2.5% this year but is now forecast to be 4%.

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That will impact UK growth more than similar nations like Italy, France and Germany

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who analysts say are less exposed to energy shocks.

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For London that means a predicted 40% decrease in annual growth this year,

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even if oil and commodity prices stabilised by summer.

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The think tank claims efforts to increase domestic energy use

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and rely less on imported fuels should help.

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The UK government says it's already doing that but opposition parties claim

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the disproportionate impact of the war on the British economy

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is evidence that the government's policies aren't working.

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The International Olympic Committee this week banned transgender women from Olympic competition

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saying the new policy promotes fairness.

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The eligibility change comes after U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order last year

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banning transgender girls and women from competing in female sports

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ahead of the 2028 Los Angeles Summer Games. Tony Waterman reports.

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Under the new policy, only biological females will be allowed to compete in the Olympics

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starting in 2028. Their sex will be determined by a mandatory one-time genetic test.

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IOC president, Kirstie Coventry, said the decision was based on science

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which she says shows males have a performance advantage in sports

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that rely on strength, power and endurance.

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At the Olympic Games, even the smallest margins can be the difference between victory and defeat

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so it's absolutely clear that it would not be fair for biological males to compete in the female category.

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It's unclear how many, if any, athletes may be impacted.

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The IOC says these individuals would still be eligible to compete in the male competitions.

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And finally there was some good news this week

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an endangered mountain gorilla has given birth to twins

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in the east of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

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Conservationists say twin births are very rare in mountain gorillas.

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Chris Otmeringer has more from Kinshasa.

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Park Rangers at the Virunga National Park found a gorilla nursing twins

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deep in the dense rainforest in the east of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

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The female gorilla from the Baraka family delivered a female and a male baby.

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Experts say twins are extremely rare in mountain gorillas

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accounting for less than 1% of births.

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Park Rangers are monitoring them to ensure they grow into adults.

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The Virunga National Park is a very dangerous place for wild animals and park rangers

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because many rebels and poachers operate in the area.

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The twins' birth comes two months after another gorilla delivered twins.

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From Feature Story News, in New York, I'm Mitch McCann and that was the Week in Review.

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The FBI has successfully executed a raid on the Visa Corporation

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exposing what could be the largest credit card scam in U.S. history.

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According to authorities, the Visa Syndicate for years fooled millions of Americans

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by issuing convincing-looking credit cards carefully designed to dupe consumers

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into spending far more money than they had.

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Investigators believe the Fraudulent Corporation also lured victims in

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with enticing rewards programs and free gifts,

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thereby trapping them in a spiral of death they could never hope to repay.

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According to the results of a groundbreaking news study,

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96% of humans would rather be a singing, dancing, animatronic bear.

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The study finds that a great majority of people on the planet

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would prefer to trade in their regular lives

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for one in which they sat on a plastic log, strummed a banjo,

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and sang songs on a stage with all their goofy bear friends.

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Respondents also stated that not being a sentient human being

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with feelings of doubt, sadness, and pain contributed to the decision.

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In the studio tonight, it's Stu.

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Riley O'Bell.

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And coming through Jitsie, it's Mark Edge.

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Yes, we're happy to have Mark with us tonight.

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It's nice to have him remotely.

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It's more fun to have him have you in studio, Mark,

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but it's nice to have you remotely.

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I agree. I would love to be up there,

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and it's not possible tonight.

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Yep. In studio is better, but we're happy to have you either way.

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For those that want to catch me more regularly,

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I'm doing a show with Sal the Aggress on X on Wednesday nights.

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He's down in St. Petersburg, and that's pretty fun to do, too.

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Nice. That sounds like fun.

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What's the name of the show?

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Well, it doesn't really...

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It's going to be called Sal and Mark.

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Because what's the point if you're just clicking on Sal the Aggress's feed in order to watch?

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It doesn't need to be a big name.

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It might be kind of shocking,

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but I've never actually used Twitter or X platform for anything.

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I can't say that I'm very good at these sorts of things,

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but I just go in the studio and do a show of which a task I am very suited for.

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Cool.

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Well, the point of this show is that it's a live call-in show.

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So, we're going to go to the phones.

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We have Dave Ridley who's already called in.

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Dave Ridley, what's on your mind tonight?

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Hey, guys. This is something that actually Mark...

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I got from Mark.

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I was listening to Mark's interview with Jason Soren,

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which is... I don't know how long ago it was,

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but Jason was just brimming with details about all the different victories

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for the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance in the legislature.

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Yeah. I thought it was a great interview,

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and I can't tell you when exactly it happened either,

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but it's gotten a new life recently.

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So, I have three that stuck in my mind.

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I always like to say that the real litmus test,

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whether you're making progress in liberty or not,

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is the size of the state budget.

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So, I guess they cut it by 7%.

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That's incredible, right?

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The big cut that came in, I think it was 2011, was almost 12%.

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And that was awesome.

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The whole budget?

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Yeah. Wow. That's pretty good.

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Yeah. I imagine that's a chunk of money.

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And the other number is...

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I guess they cut the budgets for all those state-run universities by 17%.

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Yeah, the Democrats are saying the Republicans hate education,

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but honestly, these universities, they're just overfunded.

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I don't know how else to describe it.

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This doesn't cost what it costs to run these...

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They churn out absolute garbage, too.

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They're really not worth the money,

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especially in the age of YouTube

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when you can just learn anything you want now.

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I think it was either Jason or you, Mark,

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who were making the point that the Republicans

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were actively funding their own enemies

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because these Democrats control these institutions.

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So, why should Republicans be forced to underwrite them?

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Right.

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Yeah, that's fundamentally the idea is that

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most people who come out of university

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have had their little minds warped

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by their professors who are, at this point,

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almost exclusively left of center

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and, in many cases, way left of center.

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Yeah.

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And the third factory that stuck in my brain

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was I guess they have...

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I don't really know exactly how to describe this

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or what the word for it is.

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Deregulation may not be the right word.

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They have made it possible for people

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to just have their own electrical grids.

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There is a first state in the Union

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that has done this in 100 years.

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I don't know any developed country that's done this.

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But basically, I guess you could have your own neighborhood grid

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or you could just set up a company in the middle of nowhere

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and build your own solar and have your own grid.

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Yeah.

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Now, I mean, it's going to be hard to do,

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but if you can get people who want to be on your little system,

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you know, this allows, say, four people to get together

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and have a solar field with some batteries

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and these kinds of things.

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Why shouldn't that be illegal?

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I imagine you'll see some neighborhoods try this out

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and if it turns out to be feasible,

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there go the power companies.

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I think it's a better idea to have decentralized power

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and have neighborhoods build their own grids

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rather than have a centralized power company

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because a centralized power company,

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yeah, they might be able to deliver power better

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but at the same time, if it's decentralized,

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you don't have to worry about going to one big monolithic power company

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to pay a bill to.

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You can go to your neighbor down the street

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who's supplying you solar or, you know,

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maybe a small bit of nuclear power too

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if they have small enough cells.

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And you could build it robust like buried in the ground

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instead of suspended on these weak pine poles

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that get knocked over by trees every winter.

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Yeah, exactly.

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You could also, when the technology is available,

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but maybe you've got some engineer who lives next door.

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You never know.

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The idea of these thorium salt reactors,

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these melt down proof reactors,

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once you can get that online, then you're in great shape.

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It's really crazy that we split the atom in 1944

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and we're still burning dead dinosaurs

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to power the grid.

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It doesn't make any sense.

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Well, they have nuclear powered engines for submarines,

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which I imagine is about as much power

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as you need for, like, a neighborhood.

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So I don't see why you can't just get one of those engines

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and set it up.

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I think people are really scared of nuclear power

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and understandably so, but at the same time,

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you know, if it works better, if we found a way

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to contain it in such a way,

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then it wouldn't be the problem that people think it is.

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My understanding is that it's actually pretty safe

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and pretty much every time they fail,

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it's due to either sabotage or completing competence.

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Or earthquakes.

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And these thorium reactors even more.

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So on the safe side of things,

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really hard to get one of them down

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for what I understand about them.

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Let's not forget that big government basically

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caused two of the three meltdowns

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when it comes to nuclear power.

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And I was only talking about thorium salt reactors.

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And the third one was caused by the biggest

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tidal wave to ever hit Japan.

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And I think that this is really important

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is if you look at all the people who died

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during the three meltdowns of nuclear power,

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and then you look at how many people die

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to deliver you oil every year.

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And as I understand the numbers,

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and I'm not sitting here looking at them right now,

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but as I understand those numbers,

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the answer is more people die per year

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to bring fossil fuels to the world

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than have died in all nuclear accidents up to this point.

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Yeah, and the number of people killed by,

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I heard at least,

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the number of people killed by the evacuation

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at Fukushima in Japan,

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which was the least bad government,

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the least, the most competently handled disaster,

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nuclear disaster.

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They were more people killed in the evacuation

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than were killed by radiation.

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I'm not sure anyone was killed by radiation.

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Yeah, I'm not sure they were either.

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But yeah, with regard to the New Hampshire,

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the change in the New Hampshire law,

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this has a dual effect on disaster preparedness,

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because if you've got a very small grid like that,

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it's very unlikely to go down

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because the distance to transmitting the electricity

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is not very far.

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So you have this sort of localized,

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relatively safe electricity

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that's safe from disasters to a large extent.

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And in putting these networks up,

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each neighborhood will become closer together

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if a neighborhood does that.

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Yeah, I'm sure they'll figure out

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how to solve the free rider problems

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and these sorts of things

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in setting up neighborhood grids.

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I'm not sure exactly how do you do it,

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but I don't have to know.

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What I have to,

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this is the problem of people

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who want to put up their own grids,

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and now they're free to in New Hampshire.

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And I don't see any reason they shouldn't be.

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Yep, I agree.

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It seems like a real easy problem to solve.

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Like if you move into a place

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that's got one of these set up

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and they've already shouldered the burden of the cost

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to set up the solar field

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and they demand that you pitch in,

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you would have options anyway.

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You could set up solar panels on your roof

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to power just your house.

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I'm sure there would be plenty of alternatives,

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which you don't get a lot of with the big power companies.

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No, but New Hampshire has changed that over time too.

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I think it was about 15 years ago.

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They made it so that you could choose between companies.

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Before that, you just,

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I mean, the way it is here in Florida

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is you just get a power company and that's it.

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Yeah, and that's how it is in California too,

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and that hasn't worked out so well for them.

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Rolling blackouts are a thing in California

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and I don't want to have that come to New Hampshire,

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so I think the idea of having a decentralized power grid

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sounds like a wonderful idea.

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Yeah, Riley hates it when the lights go out.

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Exactly, I do.

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So much, it's very difficult.

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All right, Dave, you got anything else?

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No.

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All right, thanks for the call.

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Thanks, Dave.

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If you want to get on the air like Dave did,

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you can call 6-0-3-2-8-3-6-1-6-0.

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Otherwise, we're going to talk about what we want to.

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And I believe what we want to talk about

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is 50 surprising things Americans actually agree on.

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That's what I want to talk about anyway.

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Yeah, well, it sounds good to me.

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Let's get into it.

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I bet I disagree with, you know, at least 26 of them.

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I think so too.

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This is from CBS News.

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A reputable news source.

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Well, yeah, that's how they claim it.

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A guy named Kyle Grillott reporting for AFP.

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So I'm going to leave the fluff that comes out of this article out,

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but just realize that 60% of Americans agree on every one of these things.

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Teachers should get more pay.

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Between school shootings, the COVID-19 pandemic,

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LGBTQ policies, and controversies over race-based content taught in schools,

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US teachers have been through a lot recently.

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And also, they're chronically underpaid.

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Most Americans are in favor of paying them more.

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In fact, 73% think teachers should be paid more.

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Making me sick.

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Quit your jobs if you don't like it.

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You're chronically underpaid.

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Oh no, you get a quarter of the year off.

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And also, quit abusing kids.

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Well, I think a lot of people see the work that teachers put into the

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government education system and think that,

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oh, this is actually a good idea to have good government education

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and good teachers.

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I think people just say that.

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I think they know deep down inside exactly what they went through

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in the government indoctrination system.

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And they'll tell you to your face that, oh, look, I went through it

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and I came out fine, but they didn't come out fine.

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I think the average person doesn't think like that.

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I think the average person says...

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They're so conscious, Nose.

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How do you know that, though?

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How could you ignore it?

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You were abused for 15,000 hours of your childhood life.

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They don't see that as abuse.

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They see that as getting an education.

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I don't think a lot of people see that as abuse.

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You and I might see it as abuse indoctrination

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in the government daycare present,

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but the average person doesn't think like that.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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Well, obviously they don't because 73% of them think

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that teachers should be paid more.

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Now, first thing I would like to do is distinguish

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between a government school teacher

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or what I like to call a bureaucrat

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and a private school or homeschool co-op teacher

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or even just a mom who teaches her own kids.

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The case of the latter,

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those people are paid what they're worth.

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A private school or charter school even

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that doesn't get enough students,

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goes out of business and the teachers don't get paid anything

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or they go on to someplace else and get paid

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whatever they need to get paid or whatever,

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but you're not forced to fund them.

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I want to talk about the government school teachers.

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Those are the ones I really have an axe to grind on

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because they've decided for better or for worse

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that it's easier to go into that system

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and that system has major problems.

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They're not all focused on the teacher,

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but they've, I mean,

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the government schools are heavy in administrators.

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The teachers are hard to fire,

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which means that they don't have to be good teachers.

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They don't have to be bad teachers.

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Every teacher who's a government school teacher

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right now listening to me knows the facts

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that they've got people amongst them in their workforce

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that shouldn't be there

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and they can't get rid of them

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and they're not going anywhere.

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So I think the government school is funded

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through force and coercion.

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We're forced to pay at the pain of losing our house

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for the worst school in a given district

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because that's just the truth.

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If you take each grade

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and compare it comparatively to each grade

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and you take the district,

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compare the schools within the district,

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95 plus percent of the time

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the government school is going to be

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the worst performing school in that set.

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So I'm very confident

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in saying that we're forced to fund

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the worst school in the district

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and then if you want your kid to have a good education

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you can send them to any place else in the district

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if you wish to,

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but you must pay for the worst option.

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That's what other business model would this survive in?

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It sounds ridiculous when you say it like that.

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Most places in America,

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I wouldn't say most places.

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Many places in America we currently have school choice.

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You can take your kid and put him in a charter school,

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you can put him in a private school,

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you can homeschool him,

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you can do a variety of things.

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The government in many cases will give you some of your money

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that was extracted from you back.

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Not all of it usually.

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In fact, I believe in no case will they give you all of your money back.

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But they'll give you some of your money

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and then you can choose that school

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and that's fundamentally had way better results

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than 100 years of forced funding

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of the worst school in a given district.

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Yeah.

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And so do I think teachers should be paid more?

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I think teachers should be paid what they're worth.

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I think a great teacher

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who can teach a lot of kids

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and teach them very well

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should be paid a lot.

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And I think a terrible teacher

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who can't teach anybody

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shouldn't be paid anything.

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Yeah, I agree with that.

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I agree with that too,

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but I think the problem is a lot of people

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in America think that,

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oh, well, our teacher's not being paid enough

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so we need to vote them more money into the education fund.

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Not realizing that no one's managing the fund

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except the bureaucrats

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and the bureaucrats always vote themself more money.

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And I have some solutions for that, Riley,

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because I don't know how to solve America's problems.

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But I do have some solutions

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for my individual listeners' problems.

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So if you want your kid to go to school

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and you don't want to be forced to pay

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for government indoctrination centers

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that are the worst performing school

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in the given district,

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there's some solutions.

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You could pick up and move to New Hampshire

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where we have school choice

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and you will pay way less.

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And we're the only place in America

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that is sort of walking towards

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a more free market in schools.

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That might not be true.

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There are a few other states.

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I know Florida's doing really well

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but Connecticut,

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which was a very free place to educate your kid,

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now is less so.

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And generally, government is growing

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in most other places.

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So I don't trust those other places, including Florida,

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as well as they may be doing in the recent past.

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But New Hampshire, I trust that it's going to get freer

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and freer over time there.

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Other options.

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Live in a motor home.

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Drive from place to place

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and boondock as much as possible.

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Live on a boat.

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Another place that doesn't pay property taxes.

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Honestly, you could claim to some extent

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just renting that you don't pay property taxes.

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It's not exactly true,

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but it might make you feel better.

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It's the same claim that you don't pay sales tax.

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It's just taken from you.

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It's just added to the charges.

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Yeah, pretty much.

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Yeah, it's not like you have an option to tell the cashier,

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no, I'm not going to pay the sales tax part

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just this other part.

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They won't give you the goods.

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Yeah, I think that, but as a renter,

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you could, so to be clear,

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economic states, proper economic theory

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would state that the cost of the overhead

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for the producer is irrelevant

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to the price that the market will pay.

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So the market has a price

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and the producer has an overhead,

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and those things are related,

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but they're not directly related.

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That's correct.

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In so much as if for whatever reason you had to pay,

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I don't know, $5,000 a month to have a unit

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that was prepared for somebody to rent,

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that doesn't mean that you're entitled to a rent

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of $5,300 a month.

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Right.

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Just because it costs you $5,000 a month to run it,

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you could just be a bad business person

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and have bought too high or whatever problem there might be.

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So it's kind of fair to say,

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yeah, the landlord pays the property tax.

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It's true.

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The landlord pays the property tax,

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but it's not directly related to the cost of the rent.

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I would call that a justification.

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I wouldn't call that a truth,

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but I can see the point.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Let's go on to point number two.

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There should be policies preventing landlords

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from increasing rent.

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A pandemic era policy in 2020 prevented landlords

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from evicting tenants after that policy expired.

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Rent for many skyrocketed.

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Most Americans, 61%,

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either strongly or somewhat support policies

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that would prevent landlords from raising rent.

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So we went from schools,

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which are paid for by taxes,

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which landlords pay to landlords increasing rent.

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And most people, good people, I'm sure,

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kind people at the very least if they're not good,

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kind people don't want to see people kicked out of their homes.

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But landlords,

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no one's protecting landlords from the cost of things going up.

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No one says property taxes will not increase X.

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No one says that the Fed won't raise rates on home loans,

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and that drives the cost.

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No one says any of these things,

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but they say, yeah, renters can't be kicked out.

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Why should I take a risk as a landlord

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and be stuck holding the bag just because people feel bad for renters?

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I mean, a purchase is a relationship,

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and the government shouldn't be involved

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as nice as people might feel.

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It's none of their gosh-darned business,

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what I do and what arrangement I make with my landlord.

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None of your business.

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I want the services I want,

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and I don't want you intervening.

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That's right.

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I like having a place to rent,

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and if you stop landlords from setting their own prices,

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they pretty soon won't be any places to rent

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because who would go into a business

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that's going to cost them money to do?

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I think the reason why a lot of people see the landlords

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as the horrible people

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is because they're the one raising the prices.

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When in reality, they don't see the hidden cost of taxes

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and things like that.

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Rents are too high,

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but it's not directly attributable to the landlords.

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They're just charging what they have to

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to make it a feasible business model.

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Added that talks were going very well,

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but Iran's leadership says

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the peace proposal floated by the US

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was excessive and unfair.

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Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city of Van

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near the Iran border.

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It's understood that back-channel talks

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are being held between Washington and Tehran

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with various countries involved

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in conveying messages back and forth.

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According to reports in the Wall Street Journal,

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Donald Trump is considering sending

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another 10,000 ground troops to the Middle East

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ahead of a possible incursion into Iran.

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India is cutting taxes on petrol and diesel

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as concerns mount over a hike in fuel prices

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due to the war in West Asia.

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The cut could help oil-selling companies

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recoup some of their heightened costs

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due to supply disruptions

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and if passed on could also help consumers

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save more money.

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Ishan Garg tells us more from New Delhi.

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The Indian government has cut down a size duty

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on petrol and diesel by roughly 10% each,

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but it's unclear if that benefit

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will actually reach the common public.

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Analysts say it will help oil companies

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most of which are government-owned

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manage their costs.

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Concerns about fuel inflation

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have been looming since the war in Gulf

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started a month ago.

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India relies on imported fuel

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for about 80% of its needs

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and the country is preparing for the long haul

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with Prime Minister Narendra Modi

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warning of hard times ahead

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if the conflict drags on.

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He's holding a meeting with the chiefs

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of Indian states on Friday

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with an eye on managing fuel supplies.

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Pakistan's aviation sectors

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incurred losses of around $72 million

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as airspace disruptions linked to the

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Iran War continue to ripple

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across the region.

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Hundreds of flights to Middle Eastern

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countries are being cancelled each day,

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affecting passengers and businesses

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reliant on regional connectivity.

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Here in Mustapha, reports from Islamabad.

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Pakistani officials say

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flights to Dubai, Doha, Abu Dhabi,

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Muscat and Sharjah

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have been severely disrupted

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amid the ongoing racial crisis.

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They warn the situation is taking a toll

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on passengers and dealing a heavy blow

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to the aviation sector.

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Pakistan's national carrier PIA

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has cancelled more than 500 flights

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so far.

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Flights that are still operating

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are being forced to take longer routes,

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driving up fuel consumption

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and insurance costs linked

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to war risk exposure.

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A US Secretary of State Marco Rubio

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is joining G7 counterparts in France

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for talks on the conflict in Iran

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and the war in Ukraine.

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The UK is among several powers expressing

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concerns over Moscow allegedly

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sharing intelligence with Tehran

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to help them target US forces.

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In the studio tonight, it's Stu.

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Riley O'Bell.

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And Mark Edge.

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Yes, Mark Edge is joining us via Jitsy call tonight.

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We have callers on the line,

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so we're going to do that right now.

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Going to a call from Barter Town.

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You're on Free Talk Live, what's on your mind?

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Thank you, Stu, for accepting our phone call tonight.

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I am one of the hosts at Barter Town,

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and I just wanted to remind the listeners

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that we're having an event in May called Mayfest.

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That's one of the things, and I'm also, of course,

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happy to discuss anything on you guys' mind

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or that's relevant that might be of my alley

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to give any sort of opinion on.

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But yeah, so Mayfest, I'll just keep going

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until you want to discuss anything else.

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But Mayfest is from May 1st through whenever people decide to leave,

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and we're just asking for a contribution for vehicles

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that park and then however many people want to ride

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or carpool or bicycle or however they get out

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can camp for free in the woods at Barter Town,

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which is kind of isolated.

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It's very remote, and we're going to be offering

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complimentary services such as the toilet, hot showers,

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and we'll have meals that we'll be preparing every night

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so people can come together and share meals if you want to,

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and it's pretty much a radically free environment.

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Sorry, Stu, you have something to say?

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Yeah, what is the landmark that's closest to Barter Town

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that I might find the location of this?

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Well, Spectacle Pond, which is near Canaan, New Hampshire.

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You presume I can spell Spectacle Pond.

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Yeah, it's the traditional spelling for Spectacle, I believe.

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Again, once the assumption, this is in Maine, right?

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No, it's in Grafton County, New Hampshire.

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Spectacle Pond of Grafton County, New Hampshire

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near Canaan, New Hampshire, Canaan is C-A-N-A-A-N.

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And there's a Facebook event for it

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if people are able to search on Facebook

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for Porkfest Classic is the name we're going by,

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but it also, Mayfest is part of the title also there

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since it is the more traditional Porkfest rule set

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of the Shire Society Declaration,

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which is essentially voluntarism

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and a lot of you guys should know about the Shire Society Declaration,

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the minimal, most minimal rule set in writing

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as voluntarists that we can use

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to kind of guide our interactions among each other

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and among others so that we can lead by example

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and promote a single solid written rule set

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as the guiding principles for society to follow.

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And knowing a little bit about Barter Town that I do,

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this is a clothing optional event?

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Correct, so the Shire Society rule set

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does not allow for pushing clothing obligations onto others.

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I do love that.

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So all of the month of May, right?

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That's correct. The first week, so Mayfest

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or Mayday as some people call it,

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there's going to be a full moon on May 1st,

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so that's going to be our kickoff event.

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That's a perfect reason to have a party, right?

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Full moon, warmer weather.

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Well, it's New Hampshire.

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That's true.

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Getting close to the notches.

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There'll still probably be some snow.

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Barter Town, thanks for the call.

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Yeah, thanks for the call.

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That should be a good time.

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Space may be limited,

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so reach out to Barter Town

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to coordinate with him.

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See a bunch of New Hampshire people making.

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Some of them will be clothed,

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some of them maybe not.

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Some of them will.

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Being without clothes is nice sometimes.

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If you want to try that around other people,

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this is the event for you.

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Yeah.

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We're going to go to our next caller.

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We've got Sarah in New Mexico.

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Sarah, what's on your mind tonight?

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Oh, I went to the Nose Jinx protest yesterday.

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Here in Albuquerque.

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They're still doing those?

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Yeah, they had like 3,000 of them all across the country.

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And it was a huge, like,

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over like 1,500 people showed up.

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Who is the candidate trying to protest?

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They don't like Charles?

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They call it the Bindejo Paleto.

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We've got one of those little Paletos ice cream box.

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But anyway, that little thing.

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But if Trump, people, we don't like the war.

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We don't like the airlines.

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I don't like how, and then all of our prices

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is going to be even worse.

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But it was a lot of fun because they blocked off

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I've never seen San Mateo or Montgomery,

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big artillery street blocked off for like two hours.

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So that was just exciting.

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There's a bunch of people walking around with signs and whatever.

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There was no violence.

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What do you think about the branding No Kings, Sarah?

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I mean, like, could they just have not,

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just as easily have called it,

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you know, the Democratic Party of Albuquerque?

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I mean, what do you think?

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Well, they have to have something like a jingle.

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You know, that's catchy.

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I mean, they made a lot of jokes about him.

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And it was really hilarious as a speaker.

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But anyway, the most exciting thing I found was that

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I found people with a socialist socialist

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with a red shirt playing drums.

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And there were definitely a Communist Party

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that was part of organizing all these protests.

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And I think these might have been the people

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with stick on hammer at the UNIM table.

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I mean, it has to be the same bunch affiliated.

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You know what I mean?

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Because one of the guys had the labor union

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for the representing the UNIM workers.

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And he was part of the socialist party.

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So I thought that was the most extroling thing.

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I knew we had communists here in Albuquerque

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and you find them in the protest.

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I'm sure that's the case.

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I'm sure there are communists everywhere.

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I like the name No Kings.

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I think it's a really great brand.

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And what I mostly look forward to

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is the next few months when

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there's just a whole bunch of anti-war rhetoric going on.

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You know, and maybe that'll even last for a little while.

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I remember when George Bush was president,

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the Democrats were very principled about no war.

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When Obama came around, you know,

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they wanted to give him a peace prize

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and then he fired more cruise missiles

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than every other peace prize winner combined.

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Exactly.

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The biggest throw bombing president in the history of America.

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Until Trump came along.

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Going to show that they have no real care

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about kings and authoritarianism.

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But really, they're just, you know,

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party line kind of people.

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But nonetheless, I mean, it'll be really great

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in the future when we do have a Democratic president.

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And I am confident that we will.

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Then we can just go back and say,

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hey, I thought y'all said no kings.

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And then, you know, you bring out this authoritarian.

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Well, you know what?

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He might get impeached.

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We get how much do we need in the Senate?

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Once we run over the Senate's Democrat,

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he's going to get impeached.

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That is a true statement.

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That is a true statement. Absolutely, Sarah.

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It's about 50-50 right now.

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Maybe 51-49, Trump loses out on the Senate.

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It could happen, really could happen.

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And, you know, often the midterms go against

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the seated president.

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I don't think he's that worried about it

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because senators are for sale.

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You know, you just buy the votes you need.

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And there's plenty of money for that.

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How about this though, Sarah?

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What do you think the next president

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is going to be worse than Trump?

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Because it seems like they've gotten, you know,

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like progressively things have gotten

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sort of worse and worse, don't you think?

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Well, I think our inflation at a price

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is going to be even worse.

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People complained about, you know,

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we were paying too much for...

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And then, you know, our terms get thin,

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all the oil, they can't get any delivery,

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so everything's even like three times more prices.

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He screwed it up.

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You complained about inflation.

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Now it's even worse because

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you have to go around the straits

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and there's going to be another thing.

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All the airplane has to spend more

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to gasoline and you can't deliver products,

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you can't go traveling,

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so everything's going to be even more cashier.

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So you've got...

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Is that a yes?

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Is that a yes?

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The next president will be worse than Trump?

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Or no, I think we'll get a slight reprieve,

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but he'll be worse than Biden.

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Well, I think anything's going to be better than Trump.

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I mean, he's like the ultra left.

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I think that that's what Democrats think, yes.

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So let me...

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What do you think about...

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I mean, you would agree, though,

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that Clinton and Obama were pretty good, right?

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But Joe Biden not as good, right?

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Better than Trump.

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The ultra right.

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I didn't ask that question.

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Let's not be evasive.

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You're not a politician.

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You're not running for office.

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Obama and Clinton.

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Yeah.

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Was Biden worse than Obama and Clinton?

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I think they're all about the same.

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Really?

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They're all about the same.

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I mean, I haven't really noticed much difference

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except that, you know,

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but I just don't like all this food stand.

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They're going to make everybody to work.

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All of our food thing has been just like run dry.

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What's wrong with working while you have food stamps?

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Well, think about it.

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They're mentally ill.

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What do you think they're homeless and starving?

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I don't believe in mental illness.

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Regardless of the mean mentally ill,

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that does not prevent them from working, Sarah.

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They should fix their mental illness.

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It's just your brain.

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Just tell it.

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Just master your brain.

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Tell it to do what you want it to do instead.

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Well, for some reason, once we put all the restriction,

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all the food things that run out of food,

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everybody was going to it because they can't do the requirement.

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I don't know if it's that easy for you to say,

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but you know, these people...

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Why is it easy for me to say?

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I've used food banks.

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I've been that poor.

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Well, yeah.

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So for some reason, he put restrictions.

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They're all the stuff that's coming down from Trump,

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and everybody has to go to food banks

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and nobody has the money to give to them to act to it.

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Sarah, are you more concerned about the price of goods and oil

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than you are about, say, civilian deaths from missile launches?

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Because that's really what concerns me about the war

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and about President Trump is him condoning all of the killing.

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That's going on, which is unacceptable and must stop.

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You know, and the whole thing in America is like,

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all you care about is American troops getting killed.

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No, you are concerned about all lives being killed.

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You have to...

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Rocky or brotherhood sisters, they're human beings.

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You know, you have to worry about hurting them too,

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causing chaos.

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You are right.

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But yeah, of course.

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That's not one reason to oppose the war, you know?

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I'm against the next war too.

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Me too.

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Yep.

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Thanks for the call, Sarah.

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Thanks for the call.

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We have yet another caller on the line.

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Busy night.

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We're going to go to Turd Ferguson in Pennsylvania.

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Turd, what's on your mind tonight?

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Sarah's partisan hackery truly makes me sick.

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I really believe that she is the single worst caller

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of Free Talk Live.

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You don't think I made her entertaining?

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I don't think it's nothing against you working.

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No, no, no.

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I'm literally asking.

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I say the same thing to myself when this kind of thing happens,

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is it's my job to make Sarah as entertaining as possible

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to whomever is listening.

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And it's hard to know these days,

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because Free Talk Live is not on as many radio stations, right?

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So there's not as many uninitiated listeners.

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It's kind of the people who've been listening to her

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for the last 15 years or however long it's been.

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Personally, some of the Sarah calls have gotten the best laughs

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out of me from all of Free Talk Live history.

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She definitely is really entertaining at times.

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No, it's not.

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She's not.

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You're giving away too much credit.

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And Mark Edge, as you know, I really like you,

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but nobody can make Sarah entertaining.

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No matter how talented they are at the radio job.

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I think your opinion is as valid as the next guy's turn.

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I really appreciate it.

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She is pretty dull.

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I think my opinion is even more valid than the next guy's.

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You admit that this is a subjective situation, right?

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I disagree.

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I think this is an objective situation.

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She is objectively bad.

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I am the greatest caller of Free Talk Live of all time,

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with the exception of perhaps maybe James Wittekind.

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Have you been hanging out with Skeeter?

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Please don't say his name and get him to call.

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By the way, I have a restraining order against him,

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and it is illegal for him to call.

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Not that that happens.

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Oh, really?

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Oh, interesting.

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Well, he called a few weeks ago,

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and I was able to get on the air with him briefly.

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If I wasn't on the air, then I guess he can call.

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Oh, yeah.

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Well, I've had some great conversations with James Wittekind

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off the air on the phone.

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I actually think he's a pretty funny guy.

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He's highly entertaining.

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I think that he can be clever at times.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I agree.

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So the reason why I'm calling is because I personally believe

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that the Free State Project has basically 20 years in

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has completely failed at what attempted,

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set out to attempt to do in the first place.

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What is it?

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What is that?

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To create a free society, a voluntary society.

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Kind of.

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Let me be clear.

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I've had this interview with Jason Sorens,

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and I think you can critique the Free State Project,

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and I'm willing to do so.

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But really what he said was,

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what would happen if we took half of the libertarians

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from the libertarian party?

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Apparently, there were about 40,000 people

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who were members of the libertarian party at the time,

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in like 2002 or whatever.

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What if we took half of them and we got them to move to one state?

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And that's more of a question than it is an answer.

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And I think that the answer to the question is,

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while there will be a lot of problems,

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and there have been,

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there will be more effective than the national libertarian party.

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And I think it is.

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I don't know about that.

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I mean, Angela McCartle seems to have single-handedly

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gotten more done for the libertarian movement

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than the Free State Project.

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So there certainly seems like that.

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Now again, now this might be something

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that is more subjective than objective,

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but I got to tell you,

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I moved out of New Hampshire,

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I think it was probably six, seven years ago now maybe,

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because I was just so tired of dealing with the nonsense,

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and I felt like this thing was going nowhere.

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And I was still considered an early mover, honestly.

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I think I moved just before the move was triggered.

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And all the people that signed up had a five-year window

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per their contract to move there.

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And I'm not even sure if they've come anywhere close

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to the number of people that signed up.

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And look, I'm not knocking it, okay?

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I mean, if you like the Free State Project, good for you.

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But my suggestion is that

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why not instead, and I know this has been tried before,

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unsuccessfully, but it might be a better idea

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now that many of you,

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I mean, at least a good chunk of you are in the state,

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go ahead and move to Grafton

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and just vote out the politicians in Grafton

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and you might actually get what you want.

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Or not exactly, but something close to it.

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You might be able to create

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a little autonomous zone in Grafton

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and you might be able to secede if,

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I mean, I don't know if this has ever been tried,

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but you might be able to say,

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look, we're creating our own little constitution in Grafton

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that says that we don't have to be part of the states

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of New Hampshire or the federal government

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because we are the government.

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And what we say goes because we have a monopoly

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on the use of force in Grafton.

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And so I think that's your best bet at this point

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because I don't really see the free state project

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from a state perspective going anywhere.

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I just don't think it's going to work.

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And you guys have had 20 years.

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It's been 20 years.

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I hear you.

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I don't think it's going to create a free society

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if you want to be very pedantic

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about what the term free means,

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but I kind of do think that it has been

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somewhat successful.

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And I honestly believe that moving to one area

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together, a sort of the free town concept

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is counterproductive.

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And here's why.

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I think it's a great idea.

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I hear you.

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Okay, go ahead.

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Currently, 160 plus, I think it's 166.

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It's either 160 or 166.

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And again, I don't have the numbers in front of me.

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Of the New Hampshire representatives are rated 80% and above.

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So that means they're pro-liberty like an 8080 libertarian

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as opposed to 100 to 100 libertarian.

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And that's a pretty good number.

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That 160 means sort of the libertarians

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have a libertarian veto.

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You can't get your bill through without getting,

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you know, one of three parties on site.

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The traditional Republicans, the traditional Democrats,

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and then the sort of libertarians

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hiding as something else.

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And if you get one of those, two of those three,

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you'll get your bill passed.

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And if you get,

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and of course to get the libertarians on board,

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you probably have to have a pretty pro-freedom bill.

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And so I like that.

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I think that that's a very powerful thing.

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If you move everybody to,

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if you move 500 libertarians to one town

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and they get one representative,

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then you have one vote in the New Hampshire House.

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If you take 500 libertarians and move them

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to 500 different locations spread across New Hampshire,

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you have potentially a potential candidate in every race.

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And that candidate could, you know, win or lose

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and has the chance of being somewhere around,

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let's see, there's,

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it's hard for a libertarian to hide as a Democrat.

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The Democrats have been very good at ferreting them out.

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Of course they've stayed in minority

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for the vast majority of the time

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since the Free State Project's been here.

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The Republicans consider them Confederates

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and on the same side, so they'll,

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let's say, you know,

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they could potentially win another 40 seats

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from the 160 that are already there.

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I'm presuming that libertarians that move

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to the 160 locations of these current reps

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are smart enough not to primary them.

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Well, maybe, but here,

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the problem is that many of the people

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that were, that even once liked the Free Staters

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and once liked the libertarians now hate them.

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And, yeah, I think a lot actually

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is a more accurate estimate.

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A lot of them, a lot of them hate them

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because of, quite frankly,

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the free keeners as they used to be

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colloquially referred to as.

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And I'm not saying that,

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I'm not saying that everything's fine elsewhere

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because I think there are still a lot of people

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that hate the Free Staters in other places,

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but I think keen is probably,

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the libertarians and keen are probably

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the most hated out of all of them,

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but if you just forget about it

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and you just get the 3,000 or so,

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my sense is there's probably about 3,000

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still left in New Hampshire.

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Maybe there's more, maybe there's, I don't know.

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My sense is it's probably about three.

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Just, you can go,

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you can go to Grafton right now

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and you can outnumber everybody else in Grafton.

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You don't even need math, really.

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I mean, you could just go there

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and you can literally, you can do it in a year.

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I mean, and then there's no,

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and then there's no questions.

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There's no like, well, what if, well, like maybe,

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what if we had one free state

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or running in every election for like,

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there'd be none of that.

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Like, tomorrow you could,

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you could do what you want to do.

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And it's so simple and it's so easy.

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I support anybody's ideas

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that they feel are going to make them freer.

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Here's what I caution.

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I caution plans that make you less free

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that you hope will make the world freer

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and thus you happy.

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The sacrifice.

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Right.

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I'm kind of an objectivist, a randian in this sense,

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is that I think when you try to,

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you know, when you try to free the world,

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the world doesn't want to be freed.

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Ian Freeman sitting in prison right now

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because people did not understand

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what he was trying to do by selling Bitcoin.

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You know, some little old ladies got scammed

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by Nigerian princes

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and they somehow blamed Ian Freeman for it

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because they bought it from him.

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Now, those same little old ladies

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could have gone to Target and bought gift cards.

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They could have gone to Walmart and done the same.

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They could have gone to Coinbase and bought Bitcoin.

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And the CEO of Target and Coinbase

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aren't going to be on the witness stands.

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They're absolutely not,

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but Ian Freeman's got to sit in prison.

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So, I mean, I caution when it comes to sort of

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doing something that doesn't make you happy.

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If you're excited about moving to the Free State Project,

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I encourage you.

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If you're excited about moving to Grafton

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for the Free Town Project, again,

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I encourage you.

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If you're excited about moving to New Hampshire

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and running for office,

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I would encourage you to find what we call

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a swing district and move there.

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And, you know, just do what makes you happiest

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is my biggest advice when it comes to delivery.

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Thanks for the call tonight, Turd.

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From Feature Story News in New York,

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I'm Mitch McCann with the Weekend Review.

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U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Friday

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that the U.S. can achieve its objectives in Iran

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without needing to send in American ground troops.

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Diplomatic efforts to end the conflict are continuing,

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but Rubio has suggested there was still no direct communications.

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Nick Harper reports from Washington.

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A new timeline for this U.S. operation in Iran

01:00:01.350 --> 01:00:04.150
now coming from the Secretary of State Marco Rubio

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saying that operations would conclude at the appropriate time,

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but it would be weeks, not months.

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He said that negotiations had not begun in earnest,

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but that the U.S. had exchanged messages with Iran

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and received indications from the Iranians

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about a willingness to talk.

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And still in the background is the possibility

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of U.S. boots on the ground.

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Rubio, though, said that the U.S.

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could achieve its goals in Iran without any ground troops.

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That came after the U.S. delayed a threat

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to attack Iran's energy infrastructure

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to the 6th of April.

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The U.S. President said the deadline extension request

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came from Tehran.

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Donald Trump added that talks were going very well,

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but Iran's leadership says the peace proposal

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floated by Washington was excessive and unfair.

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Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city of Van

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near the Iran border.

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Iran has not confirmed publicly that it is in direct negotiations

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with the United States,

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but it's understood that back-channel talks

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are being held between Washington and Tehran

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with various countries involved

01:01:07.350 --> 01:01:09.210
in conveying messages back and forth,

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including Egypt, Pakistan and Turkey.

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According to reports in the Wall Street Journal,

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Donald Trump is considering sending

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another 10,000 ground troops to the Middle East

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ahead of a possible incursion into Iran

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on top of the more than 3,000 soldiers

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already on their way to the Gulf.

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A report from the OECD predicts the U.K. economy

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will be hit harder than any other industrialized nation

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due to the conflict in the Middle East

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with inflation expected to spike

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and the jobs market weaken.

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Stuart Smith has more from London.

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Goods and services are likely to get much more expensive

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much more quickly as the U.S. and Israeli war with Iran

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drags on and the United Kingdom

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is going to be particularly hard hit

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according to the OECD's analysis.

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Inflation was predicted to be 2.5% this year,

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but is now forecast to be 4%.

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That will impact U.K. growth more than similar nations

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like Italy, France and Germany

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who analysts say are less exposed to energy shocks.

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For London that means a predicted 40% decrease

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in annual growth this year

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even if oil and commodity prices stabilised by summer.

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The think tank claims efforts

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to increase domestic energy use

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and rely less on imported fuels should help.

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The U.K. government says it's already doing that

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but opposition parties claim the disproportionate impact

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of the war on the British economy

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is evidence that the government's policies aren't working.

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The International Olympic Committee this week

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banned transgender women from Olympic competition

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saying the new policy promotes fairness.

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The eligibility change comes after U.S. President

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Donald Trump signed an executive order last year

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banning transgender girls and women

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from competing in female sports

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ahead of the 2028 Los Angeles summer games.

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Tony Waterman reports.

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Under the new policy only biological females

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will be allowed to compete in the Olympics

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starting in 2028.

01:02:58.990 --> 01:03:01.710
Their sex will be determined by a mandatory

01:03:01.710 --> 01:03:03.790
one-time genetic test.

01:03:04.150 --> 01:03:06.050
IOC president, Kirstie Coventry

01:03:06.250 --> 01:03:08.510
said the decision was based on science

01:03:08.510 --> 01:03:11.790
which she says shows males have a performance advantage

01:03:11.790 --> 01:03:15.430
in sports that rely on strength, power and endurance.

01:03:16.170 --> 01:03:18.770
At the Olympic Games even the smallest margins

01:03:18.770 --> 01:03:21.210
can be the difference between victory and defeat.

01:03:21.650 --> 01:03:24.710
So it's absolutely clear that it would not be fair

01:03:24.710 --> 01:03:27.590
for biological males to compete in the female category.

01:03:27.970 --> 01:03:32.030
It's unclear how many, if any, athletes may be impacted.

01:03:32.430 --> 01:03:35.170
The IOC says these individuals would still be

01:03:35.170 --> 01:03:37.470
eligible to compete in the male competitions.

01:03:38.010 --> 01:03:39.990
And finally there was some good news this week

01:03:39.990 --> 01:03:42.690
an endangered mountain gorilla has given birth

01:03:42.690 --> 01:03:45.690
to twins in the east of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

01:03:46.410 --> 01:03:49.010
Conservationists say twin births are very rare

01:03:49.010 --> 01:03:50.010
in mountain gorillas.

01:03:50.530 --> 01:03:52.630
Chris Otamaringa has more from Kinshasa.

01:03:53.090 --> 01:03:55.770
Park Rangers at the Virunga National Park

01:03:55.770 --> 01:03:59.330
found a gorilla nursing twins deep in the dense rainforest

01:03:59.330 --> 01:04:02.150
in the east of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

01:04:02.430 --> 01:04:04.570
The female gorilla from the Baraka family

01:04:04.570 --> 01:04:06.750
delivered a female and a male baby.

01:04:07.010 --> 01:04:10.510
Experts say twins are extremely rare in mountain gorillas

01:04:10.510 --> 01:04:13.690
accounting for less than one percent of births.

01:04:13.690 --> 01:04:17.210
Park Rangers are monitoring them to ensure they grow into adults.

01:04:17.550 --> 01:04:20.270
The Virunga National Park is a very dangerous place

01:04:20.270 --> 01:04:22.250
for wild animals and park rangers

01:04:22.250 --> 01:04:25.490
because many rebels and poachers operate in the area.

01:04:25.790 --> 01:04:27.570
The twins' birth comes two months

01:04:27.570 --> 01:04:29.690
after another gorilla delivered twins.

01:04:44.250 --> 01:04:47.930
Dads were able to wrap up breakfast in bed by 9.18 a.m.

01:04:48.130 --> 01:04:50.250
giving them plenty of time to mill about the garage

01:04:50.250 --> 01:04:51.470
for the rest of the afternoon.

01:04:52.130 --> 01:04:54.370
While children who spent a minute and a half this morning

01:04:54.370 --> 01:04:57.130
hugging their mothers are currently out playing street hockey.

01:04:57.410 --> 01:04:59.950
And after completely fulfilling their Mother's Day obligations

01:04:59.950 --> 01:05:02.830
with a store-bought card, teens are now free to leave

01:05:02.830 --> 01:05:04.170
and spend the day with their friends.

01:05:04.550 --> 01:05:06.910
The moms, who were quickly and efficiently lavished

01:05:06.910 --> 01:05:09.110
with cards, flowers, assurances of love

01:05:09.110 --> 01:05:10.850
and seven full minutes of family togetherness,

01:05:10.850 --> 01:05:14.330
praised the competency with which the holiday was carried out.

01:05:14.690 --> 01:05:15.870
Oh, it was great.

01:05:16.270 --> 01:05:19.010
Charles and the kids made me feel completely appreciated.

01:05:19.470 --> 01:05:21.870
They ended the holiday before I even got out of bed.

01:05:22.330 --> 01:05:23.870
Guess I'll go out of the plants now.

01:05:24.710 --> 01:05:27.830
But before the day-long celebration concluded early this morning,

01:05:28.110 --> 01:05:29.750
moms had their own job to do,

01:05:30.130 --> 01:05:32.970
making a brief obligatory phone call to their own mothers.

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Good-looking hoodie there.

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We'll see.

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We are going to go to the phones.

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We got a caller from Las Vegas, Nevada.

01:06:53.460 --> 01:06:54.680
You're on the air.

01:06:54.820 --> 01:06:55.460
What's on your mind?

01:06:57.380 --> 01:07:00.160
Knowing government spending and deficits

01:07:00.160 --> 01:07:01.860
isn't the path to freedom.

01:07:01.900 --> 01:07:04.580
It's the path to saving democracy.

01:07:05.980 --> 01:07:07.360
And nobody wants freedom.

01:07:07.820 --> 01:07:08.700
They want slurping.

01:07:09.540 --> 01:07:14.180
Being burned with choice isn't something people want.

01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.480
And oh my God, Mark, you're an objectivist.

01:07:18.500 --> 01:07:20.560
No, I lean objectivist in that way.

01:07:22.560 --> 01:07:24.200
But I think you are right.

01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:26.900
I don't think that most people care anything about Liberty.

01:07:27.140 --> 01:07:28.900
I think they do care about flourishing.

01:07:29.740 --> 01:07:32.200
And they care about, you know,

01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:34.800
basically just how well their lives are going.

01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:38.160
And they want them, I think, to add a finer point to it,

01:07:38.160 --> 01:07:41.120
if I may, they want their lives to get marginally

01:07:41.120 --> 01:07:43.120
a little better every year.

01:07:43.500 --> 01:07:45.380
And if it does, they're pretty happy.

01:07:45.380 --> 01:07:47.800
But what would you say to this, Skeeter,

01:07:48.420 --> 01:07:51.340
is that I've heard a statistic that 80%,

01:07:51.340 --> 01:07:54.420
that's 8-0, just in case you might have heard differently,

01:07:54.720 --> 01:07:59.380
8-0% of people in the world are dissatisfied

01:08:00.040 --> 01:08:02.380
or very dissatisfied with their government.

01:08:02.520 --> 01:08:03.140
What do you think about that?

01:08:06.140 --> 01:08:08.620
Well, what they say and what they do

01:08:08.620 --> 01:08:10.360
kind of contradict each other.

01:08:10.500 --> 01:08:14.580
If you really dissatisfied, you'd leave, right?

01:08:14.580 --> 01:08:18.180
And go where? To one or the other percent of places

01:08:18.180 --> 01:08:19.780
where people are dissatisfied with their government?

01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:23.400
Seastead.

01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.800
Your options are limited based upon technology

01:08:28.240 --> 01:08:29.980
and what other people believe, right?

01:08:30.500 --> 01:08:32.820
So obviously they're selecting the best possible choice

01:08:32.820 --> 01:08:34.900
that they feel that it's available to them.

01:08:36.080 --> 01:08:38.800
So being dissatisfied kind of loses all meaning to that

01:08:38.800 --> 01:08:40.900
when you explain it that way, right?

01:08:40.900 --> 01:08:43.580
But just now what I want to talk about...

01:08:43.580 --> 01:08:46.060
Well, hold on. We're talking about this now.

01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:48.620
I think that you're right.

01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:50.720
Again, I am conceding this ground,

01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:54.000
but I also think that it takes a little time

01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:58.520
for ideas to become sort of cemented in people's minds.

01:08:59.160 --> 01:09:02.020
At this point, I think many libertarians understand

01:09:02.020 --> 01:09:04.380
if they wanted a more libertarian life,

01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:05.580
they can move to New Hampshire.

01:09:06.400 --> 01:09:08.600
But they may be, for whatever reason,

01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:12.040
it's like mom's sick and old and I don't want to go yet

01:09:12.040 --> 01:09:15.820
or I got to retire or the kids are still in the house

01:09:15.820 --> 01:09:17.240
or whatever their reason might be.

01:09:17.820 --> 01:09:20.260
I think that it's valid to sort of wait.

01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:23.960
But further, I don't think many people

01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:28.880
have heard about Prospera.HN or Morizan.city

01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:32.380
or really that even a Seastead is...

01:09:32.380 --> 01:09:34.420
I don't think a Seastead is a practical choice

01:09:34.420 --> 01:09:35.640
if you want freedom.

01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:39.580
Yes, if you want to sort of test out Seasteads and stuff,

01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:41.300
but not if you want to move outside

01:09:41.300 --> 01:09:44.140
of the sort of 12 mile international boundary.

01:09:44.480 --> 01:09:46.420
Now you'll make yourself a larger target

01:09:46.420 --> 01:09:47.940
for coercion by doing it.

01:09:48.500 --> 01:09:49.740
I think you'll get swamped.

01:09:49.740 --> 01:09:54.300
I mean, what is Prospera and Morizan, right?

01:09:54.660 --> 01:09:57.660
Other than crypto colonization of four countries, right?

01:09:58.100 --> 01:10:01.380
You guys, those societies are just role-playing.

01:10:01.500 --> 01:10:03.220
They're larking. They're larking freedom

01:10:03.220 --> 01:10:05.720
when they're actually using their privilege

01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:10.160
as a U.S. corporation to take advantage of poor countries, right?

01:10:10.260 --> 01:10:13.720
They use their wealth that they accumulated under a democracy

01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:15.860
and pretend they're independent from it

01:10:15.860 --> 01:10:18.340
when they're relying on their legal system

01:10:18.340 --> 01:10:20.280
in order to get their bargaining power

01:10:20.280 --> 01:10:23.120
to get their stupid rich city, right?

01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:24.580
Morizan and Prospera...

01:10:24.580 --> 01:10:27.260
What you're saying, it sounds like you're attacking Prospera

01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:29.240
and throwing Morizan under the bus.

01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:31.800
I mean, none of the things you said about Morizan are true.

01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:35.900
Do they rely on taxation?

01:10:37.940 --> 01:10:39.800
They are forced by...

01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:41.520
Hold on.

01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:51.760
The laws of the Zettais require them to give a less than 1% income tax,

01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:57.780
and people are sort of supposed to voluntarily participate.

01:10:58.900 --> 01:11:01.500
Did everyone there renounce their citizenship?

01:11:02.240 --> 01:11:04.640
Why would they do that? That's not an obligation.

01:11:07.260 --> 01:11:08.920
Why aren't they doing it?

01:11:09.060 --> 01:11:10.420
At least the ANCAPs who move there

01:11:10.420 --> 01:11:13.740
who claim that they're independent of the U.S. government.

01:11:13.740 --> 01:11:14.520
I see. You're confused.

01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:16.840
You don't know that much about Morizan.

01:11:17.140 --> 01:11:17.820
Fine, no problem.

01:11:18.360 --> 01:11:21.880
Morizan is a housing development for factory workers

01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:23.800
in Choloma, Honduras,

01:11:24.020 --> 01:11:30.020
one of the really inhospitable urban places in the world.

01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:37.920
I was referring to Prospera more than Morizan,

01:11:38.020 --> 01:11:40.380
but both are still...

01:11:40.380 --> 01:11:42.560
Is it run by a U.S. company?

01:11:43.260 --> 01:11:43.520
No.

01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:43.980
A corporation?

01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:44.900
Nope.

01:11:45.160 --> 01:11:45.240
No.

01:11:46.100 --> 01:11:47.260
Is it under...

01:11:47.260 --> 01:11:48.320
It's run by Honduran corporation.

01:11:50.320 --> 01:11:53.500
And the vast majority of people who live in it are Honduran,

01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:56.020
and they want to live there and they love it.

01:11:56.700 --> 01:11:57.700
They have a waiting list.

01:11:59.540 --> 01:12:00.480
They have a waiting list.

01:12:00.540 --> 01:12:01.340
So it's not open borders?

01:12:02.940 --> 01:12:04.340
Well, why would it have open borders?

01:12:06.460 --> 01:12:08.000
Oh, now you're just criticizing

01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:09.660
Annaco-capitalist theory, right?

01:12:10.020 --> 01:12:11.900
They always advocate for open borders and stuff.

01:12:12.100 --> 01:12:13.700
I get it, but you do understand.

01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:14.660
I'm sure, Skeeter.

01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:15.520
You're well informed.

01:12:15.740 --> 01:12:16.960
Not every one of our listeners are.

01:12:17.320 --> 01:12:18.740
You're well informed on this stuff,

01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:19.940
but you know as well as I do

01:12:19.940 --> 01:12:21.960
that this is a controversial issue

01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:24.000
within libertarian circles

01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:26.360
as to whether or not open borders are a good idea.

01:12:26.360 --> 01:12:30.700
I believe that when you...

01:12:30.700 --> 01:12:33.940
Well, I fundamentally believe that whatever organization

01:12:33.940 --> 01:12:36.740
owns the land gets to make the choices

01:12:37.360 --> 01:12:39.960
of what the immigration policy is.

01:12:40.300 --> 01:12:42.240
I just believe that we've been lied to

01:12:42.240 --> 01:12:44.220
in the United States when they say the government

01:12:44.220 --> 01:12:46.320
is of the people, by the people,

01:12:46.420 --> 01:12:47.260
and for the people,

01:12:47.260 --> 01:12:49.560
and that somehow we are the government.

01:12:50.100 --> 01:12:51.300
I think the government is...

01:12:51.300 --> 01:12:51.920
Yeah, how's that a lie?

01:12:52.180 --> 01:12:53.300
And they own all the land.

01:12:53.380 --> 01:12:55.360
I don't understand how that's...

01:12:55.360 --> 01:12:56.460
I don't understand how that's a lie.

01:12:57.120 --> 01:13:00.020
Theoretically, we can dissolve democracy

01:13:00.020 --> 01:13:01.700
if you get enough support for it.

01:13:02.300 --> 01:13:02.440
Sure.

01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:04.300
But it's not me, right?

01:13:05.320 --> 01:13:08.820
If I decided I wanted to dissolve democracy,

01:13:09.040 --> 01:13:10.040
I can't do it, right?

01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:13.960
Yeah, but you don't make up the entire group.

01:13:14.100 --> 01:13:16.160
You don't make up the entire ownership of the country.

01:13:16.160 --> 01:13:16.360
Sure.

01:13:16.900 --> 01:13:18.740
This is the fiction of groups, though.

01:13:19.940 --> 01:13:21.140
That's the fiction.

01:13:21.860 --> 01:13:23.440
This is what they tell you.

01:13:23.440 --> 01:13:25.400
You are the government.

01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:26.340
Well, no, I'm not.

01:13:26.740 --> 01:13:29.360
I'm 1,300 millionth of the government,

01:13:29.580 --> 01:13:31.560
and that my vote doesn't matter

01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:32.720
unless it's a tie break,

01:13:33.120 --> 01:13:35.620
and it will never be a tie break my entire life.

01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:40.060
No, that's a false way to look at it.

01:13:40.160 --> 01:13:41.160
You can always...

01:13:41.160 --> 01:13:42.200
Everybody...

01:13:42.200 --> 01:13:47.260
You can keep removing people from the vote.

01:13:47.360 --> 01:13:49.820
You can keep removing someone's vote in the system,

01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:51.700
and eventually it'll change.

01:13:51.700 --> 01:13:53.460
It doesn't matter who it is, right?

01:13:54.400 --> 01:13:55.180
Your vote...

01:13:55.180 --> 01:13:56.180
You're just sour...

01:13:56.180 --> 01:13:59.240
The majority doesn't agree with you, right?

01:13:59.960 --> 01:14:00.580
Of course it doesn't.

01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:02.120
I'm fully aware of that.

01:14:02.180 --> 01:14:05.420
That's why I picked up and I moved to New Hampshire,

01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:07.040
and then I picked up from there,

01:14:07.320 --> 01:14:09.240
and I moved to Saipan,

01:14:09.300 --> 01:14:10.500
and then I picked up from there,

01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:11.680
and I moved to Honduras,

01:14:12.500 --> 01:14:14.860
and by the way, I keep a residence in New Hampshire

01:14:14.860 --> 01:14:17.240
because U.S. citizens must have a residence,

01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:19.960
even if they're a foreign resident.

01:14:21.080 --> 01:14:23.480
The reason why people believe in this system

01:14:23.480 --> 01:14:26.340
is because it has worked relatively well.

01:14:27.040 --> 01:14:30.600
Compared to other forms of tyranny, it is good.

01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:32.700
But you would also agree, I'm sure,

01:14:32.820 --> 01:14:35.780
that government loves to retain power, right?

01:14:35.900 --> 01:14:37.380
It just doesn't want to let it go.

01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:40.760
So the idea that you could buy your own little piece of land

01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:42.440
and buy the sovereignty thereof

01:14:42.440 --> 01:14:44.240
and run your own little country...

01:14:44.240 --> 01:14:44.880
It's not up to them.

01:14:45.360 --> 01:14:47.220
It's really not up to them, right?

01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:48.920
It's up to their performance,

01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:51.680
at least the relative performance, right?

01:14:52.220 --> 01:14:55.800
If you were to accelerate the fiscal collapse,

01:14:56.380 --> 01:14:57.420
you would see change.

01:14:57.900 --> 01:15:00.180
People would want change like in Argentina.

01:15:01.040 --> 01:15:03.060
What do you think created Bitcoin, Mark?

01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:08.660
It was the banking crisis of 2008.

01:15:09.320 --> 01:15:12.000
It's these things that prompt people,

01:15:12.140 --> 01:15:15.360
that urge people to want change.

01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:17.140
This is a valid theory.

01:15:17.140 --> 01:15:18.000
Like it worked.

01:15:19.440 --> 01:15:19.920
Yeah.

01:15:20.440 --> 01:15:20.920
Doi.

01:15:21.100 --> 01:15:23.360
When things look like they're working well,

01:15:23.420 --> 01:15:24.440
they don't want change.

01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:25.900
It's not that they're slaves

01:15:25.900 --> 01:15:29.200
or that they're under an illusion, rightly.

01:15:29.700 --> 01:15:30.700
They are under an illusion.

01:15:30.700 --> 01:15:33.840
Ladies and gentlemen, vote for the worst possible candidate.

01:15:34.160 --> 01:15:35.020
Skeeter says so.

01:15:35.140 --> 01:15:35.740
Thank you for the call.

01:15:36.440 --> 01:15:36.720
Yeah.

01:15:37.220 --> 01:15:38.740
Thanks for the call today, Skeeter.

01:15:40.260 --> 01:15:43.040
That guy's got some interesting logic, hasn't he?

01:15:43.400 --> 01:15:45.280
Well, he's one of those guys

01:15:45.280 --> 01:15:48.180
that I say is like so intelligent.

01:15:48.360 --> 01:15:49.280
He might be crazy.

01:15:49.500 --> 01:15:51.580
He's also an complete ass.

01:15:51.940 --> 01:15:56.580
It makes him, you know, unlistable to the average person.

01:15:56.740 --> 01:15:58.740
But as a caller, I think that he's,

01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:01.040
I think there's a good argument that Skeeter is a good caller.

01:16:02.200 --> 01:16:02.640
Yeah.

01:16:02.980 --> 01:16:05.820
I wish he could make his thoughts a little more coherent,

01:16:06.240 --> 01:16:09.940
but you could tell there's some substance there.

01:16:09.980 --> 01:16:11.020
It makes you look good when he's not coherent.

01:16:11.020 --> 01:16:13.020
All right.

01:16:14.180 --> 01:16:16.880
We're going to go to Tom in New Hampshire.

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Tom, you're on Free Talk Live.

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What's on your mind?

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Good evening.

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First of all, I believe the Declaration of Independence talks

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about when things are pretty much going well.

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Where it says, and I quote,

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Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established

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should not be changed for light and transient causes.

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And accordingly, all experience has shown that mankind

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are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable

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than to write themselves by abolishing the forms

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to which they are accustomed.

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I end up quote.

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So it means things are going.

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It just amazes me that most voters don't give a flying duck

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about all the people getting killed in Iran

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or the major misappropriation of our attacks,

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revenues and the military force of the United States

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to prop up a foreign country's scriptural claim

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to apply the territory out in the Middle East,

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which is what it's all about.

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Instead of simply telling all these Jewish people,

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look, next time there's a terrible thing going on,

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why don't you just all move to the United States?

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You know, they shouldn't just suffer them all

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to most of the United States.

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I kind of think that.

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I kind of do think that though.

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Is this like, I mean, really, many of the problems

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in the Middle East are Britons.

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And then, to some extent, the United States is fault.

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Had FDR welcomed the ship of the damned,

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these Jews who were trying to escape Nazi Germany

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in, I think, 39 and said, you know what,

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all you Jews come here that things might have been better.

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For the United States, you know,

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we'd have all those Nobel Peace prices and all that stuff.

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And it wouldn't be such a big deal in Israel right now.

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The other part of it is though.

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I mean, they don't care about the carnage.

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They don't care about the human rights violations

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or the international law violations going on.

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They say, oh, but the price of oil is going up.

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Oh, no, we will vote out these no good Republicans

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over something stupid like that.

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And they don't give a flying duck about the real issues there

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because it's somebody else's problem.

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And, you know, they didn't mind when the United States

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was fighting a war for oil in Iraq.

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It's just, oh, well, you know,

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it was started just so Vice President Cheney's friends

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at Halliburton could make money off the oil.

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But it's all, well, the price of oil is going up.

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And, you know, they're going to vote out the Republicans over that.

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They're over dependent on oil granted.

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But it's got to stop because, you know,

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these people are getting bombed.

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And, you know, look at the attack in Venezuela

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where the scores of security forces were wounded and killed

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to kidnap the president and vice president of Venezuela over what?

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Oh, we don't like those.

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I mean, so these people were importing cocaine into the United States.

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And I tell you, you know, cocaine, how much worse it is

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than legal drugs like alcohol.

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You know, I mean, if you drink alcohol over time,

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you can get addicted to it.

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But if you do cocaine over time, you can get addicted to it.

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So that's the first way that cocaine is so much worse.

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Another way is if you drink alcohol,

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you drink too much at one time, it can kill you.

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But if you do too much cocaine at one time, it can kill you.

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And that's the second way that cocaine is worse than alcohol.

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And the third way is if you drink alcohol and try to drive a car,

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you could crash and kill somebody else.

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But if you do cocaine and try to drive a car,

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you might crash and kill somebody else.

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Those are the three ways that cocaine is so much worse than alcohol.

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You know, they did a study at one point,

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and I can't, you know, state it off the top of my head,

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but it was something like, what is the social...

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What are the negative social effects of all the drugs?

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And they included alcohol, and it was the worst.

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It has more negative social effects by then to the fact

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that it is just consumed on a wide basis

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than all the rest of those drugs.

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Well, it's one of the most dangerous, too.

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It's one of the few that can kill you simply from the withdrawal.

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Yeah, it's true.

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You start messing around with marijuana in college.

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I mean, you know what that stuff does to you?

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You start messing around with marijuana in college.

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You might grow up to be vice president of the United States.

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Yeah.

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Well, president, for that matter.

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Al Gore, well, you know, he smoked weed

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and admitted to what and everything.

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Bill Clinton didn't inhale, supposedly, but he, you know...

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Pot waster.

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George Bush did.

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Do you realize what that stuff can do to you?

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Well, yeah.

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If you mess around with marijuana in college,

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you might grow up to be vice president of the United States.

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I put that on to politicians.

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I was holding a news conference on January 3rd, 2001

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in the legislative office building in Concord.

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During my brief time as a state representative,

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I was holding a news conference and they started...

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These state representatives decided to start asking questions

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and confronting me on my positions and stuff.

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And one of them was saying,

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do you realize what that drug do to you?

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And I answered, yeah.

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I start messing around with marijuana in college.

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You might grow up to be vice president of the United States.

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It's an excellent joke.

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Thank you for the call, Tom.

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Yeah, thanks for the call tonight.

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I just looked up Polly Market on who will win the Senate in 2026

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and currently it's a 52 percent, the slightest of margins

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for the Democrats.

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And as Sarah said earlier, she didn't, you know, she isn't wrong.

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If the Democrats manage to get the Senate,

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then Trump will be impeached.

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And I believe that means convicted also, like, you know,

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the House and Senate, you know, he's going down.

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So I suspect it's just a supposition that he will try very,

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very hard to prevent that from happening.

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What do you think they'll take him down for?

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Certainly not the war crimes, something much less.

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What difference does it make?

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It doesn't matter.

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It doesn't matter what it is.

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It's all they have.

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Well, because then they have to admit that America did war crimes.

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Yeah.

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Well, I won't even speculate.

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Polly Market probably has, but...

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Polly Market's pretty good.

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If, you know, the thing is, is there's enough things out there

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to convict someone of that they will definitely find something.

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And, you know, that's that.

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I'm not saying Trump's innocent.

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I'm not saying he's guilty.

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I'm not saying any of those things.

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I'm saying that if the Senate is taken by the Democrats,

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they will impeach Trump.

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I doubt there's been a president that hasn't done illegal things

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that could get them impeached since, you know,

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before the Federal Reserve, certainly.

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It wouldn't matter if they said,

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if they impeached him for wearing pink on Sunday.

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Right.

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You know, like, all they need is the votes.

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It doesn't matter what it is.

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Let's go on with the things that Americans agree on up to 60%.

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Spending on public housing should increase

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with rent and mortgages increasing along with homelessness.

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More people are turning to public housing,

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which is provided and paid for by the government,

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which, by the way, is a nice euphemism for saying,

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you and your taxes taken at the point of a gun if necessary.

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And believe it or not,

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60% of Americans support increasing spending on public housing.

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That's insane.

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Yeah.

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Why is that?

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Because it's not sustainable.

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You're giving people the wrong incentive.

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Yeah.

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Well, most people don't offer helping people out,

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but if you just give it to them unconditionally,

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guess what?

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They're going to keep using it.

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Most people wrongly think that, you know,

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when government does something, it's actually really good.

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But they forget that public housing is public housing

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and that's where the drug addicts go.

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That's where the poor people end up

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and there's no incentive for the poor people

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and the drug addicts to maintain the value of that property.

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It just becomes trash.

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Yeah.

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They just trash it in many cases.

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Some people, I'm sure, try very hard to keep their houses

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very nice there,

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but the difficulty is that they're in the minority

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or even it just takes one in a neighborhood

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to bring everything down.

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So, you know, it's just, it's not a solution.

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You're absolutely right.

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It creates the wrong incentives.

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And whether people believe that people are good

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or whether people believe that people are bad,

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I think that everybody can agree

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that people respond to incentives.

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Yep.

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That they respond very, very well to incentives.

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And the incentive when you give somebody free housing

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isn't necessarily to take care of the housing.

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It's just to, you know, make as much money

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as you need to make in order to get by

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and make sure you don't lose that free housing.

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Yeah, that's right.

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People will purposely make less money

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just so they can keep their benefits,

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free housing or food stamps or whatever they got going.

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I think it's better to take the exact opposite approach

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and use that temporarily.

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Like if I were to go on government assistance,

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I don't want to be having that hang over my head all the time

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because, number one, it doesn't incentivize me to produce.

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And number two,

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if I work just to maintain my benefits

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or don't work at all,

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then what's to incentivize me to save up for a house?

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What's to incentivize me to improve my life?

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Yeah, it's a difficult conundrum,

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but remember, we're just a savanna ape

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that is carrying around a cell phone in this pocket, right?

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You know, we're not all logical.

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Logic isn't the best system for convincing

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people of much of anything.

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It all comes down to sort of feelings.

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Yeah, people are very emotionally reactive.

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And group cohesion, I think, is the number one thing.

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If, you know, most, what is the percentage?

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Most people will, they did some kind of study, right?

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And they said patently ridiculous things.

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Like this line is longer than that line

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when it obviously was not, right?

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And they got 80-something percent of people

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to say at some point to agree with the obvious lie.

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And they got 15% of people to always agree with it.

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15% of people would agree with an obvious lie

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in order to what?

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Well, it's because why would they do that?

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The answer is because social cohesion is way more important

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to this particular species of primate

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than the truth is.

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Truth is relevant to about 15% of you autists out there

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and the rest of people will just kind of fall in line.

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Yeah, I kind of fall in that smaller category.

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Yeah, I'd like to think I do.

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Let's go on.

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Oh, I've got it.

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When we get back here, I've got the next one.

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Social welfare programs are fine.

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You could almost have guessed it.

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Yeah, indeed.

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Give us a call. Let us know what you think.

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Are social welfare programs fine?

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Which of these items do you agree with?

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Apparently 60% of Americans do.

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Phone number here is 6032836160.

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The company is making no secret that when it comes

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to wasting the obligatory $20 on a useless electronic dartboard

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The company is offering massive discounts

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on otherwise unsellable items for holiday parties

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you don't even want to go to,

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like the $12 decorative lantern,

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which is expected to be a big hit

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with customers who grab the first thing they see

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when they walk in the store.

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I really wanted to get something that said

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I don't care about any of you people

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and I didn't put any effort into this.

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CVS also has shitty Hanukkah gifts for coworkers

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who you think might be Jewish,

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like candles and those little plastic net bags

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full of chocolate money.

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This is the Onion News Network.

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From Feature Story News in Brussels, I'm William Denslow.

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The United States has delayed a threat to attack

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Iran's energy infrastructure to April 6th.

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The US President said the deadline extension request

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came from Tehran,

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though that's not yet been confirmed by Iran.

01:29:53.080 --> 01:29:56.040
Donald Trump added that talks were going very well,

01:29:56.400 --> 01:29:58.780
but Iran's leadership says the peace proposal

01:29:58.780 --> 01:30:01.840
floated by the US was excessive and unfair.

01:30:02.220 --> 01:30:04.580
Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city of Van

01:30:04.920 --> 01:30:05.980
near the Iran border.

01:30:06.260 --> 01:30:08.180
It's understood that back channel talks

01:30:08.180 --> 01:30:10.760
are being held between Washington and Tehran

01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:13.280
with various countries involved in conveying messages

01:30:13.280 --> 01:30:14.080
back and forth.

01:30:14.080 --> 01:30:16.200
According to reports in the Wall Street Journal,

01:30:16.440 --> 01:30:19.300
Donald Trump is considering sending another 10,000

01:30:19.620 --> 01:30:21.240
ground troops to the Middle East

01:30:21.240 --> 01:30:23.480
ahead of a possible incursion into Iran.

01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:26.520
India is cutting taxes on petrol and diesel,

01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:29.380
as concerns mount over a hike in fuel prices

01:30:29.380 --> 01:30:31.200
due to the war in West Asia.

01:30:31.920 --> 01:30:34.140
The cut could help oil-selling companies

01:30:34.140 --> 01:30:36.840
recoup some of their heightened costs

01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:38.680
due to supply disruptions

01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:41.580
and if passed on could also help consumers

01:30:41.580 --> 01:30:42.720
save more money.

01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:45.560
Ishan Garg tells us more from New Delhi.

01:30:45.860 --> 01:30:48.240
The Indian government has cut down excise duty

01:30:48.240 --> 01:30:51.140
on petrol and diesel by roughly 10% each,

01:30:51.260 --> 01:30:53.260
but it's unclear if that benefit

01:30:53.260 --> 01:30:55.180
will actually reach the common public.

01:30:55.700 --> 01:30:57.800
Analysts say it will help oil companies

01:30:57.800 --> 01:30:59.820
most of which are government-owned

01:30:59.820 --> 01:31:01.400
manage their costs.

01:31:01.780 --> 01:31:04.120
Concerns about fuel inflation have been looming

01:31:04.120 --> 01:31:06.380
since the war in Gulf started a month ago.

01:31:06.740 --> 01:31:08.440
India relies on imported fuel

01:31:08.440 --> 01:31:10.420
for about 80% of its needs

01:31:10.420 --> 01:31:12.880
and the country is preparing for the long haul

01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:14.380
with Prime Minister Narendra Modi

01:31:14.380 --> 01:31:16.360
warning of hard times ahead

01:31:16.360 --> 01:31:18.360
if the conflict drags on.

01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:20.480
He's holding a meeting with the chiefs

01:31:20.480 --> 01:31:21.940
of Indian states on Friday

01:31:21.940 --> 01:31:24.000
with an eye on managing fuel supplies.

01:31:24.580 --> 01:31:26.140
Pakistan's aviation sectors

01:31:26.140 --> 01:31:28.760
incurred losses of around $72 million,

01:31:29.660 --> 01:31:31.480
as airspace disruptions linked to the

01:31:31.480 --> 01:31:33.360
Iran War continued to ripple

01:31:33.360 --> 01:31:34.300
across the region.

01:31:34.860 --> 01:31:36.340
Hundreds of flights to Middle Eastern

01:31:36.340 --> 01:31:38.500
countries are being cancelled each day,

01:31:38.500 --> 01:31:40.720
affecting passengers and businesses

01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:42.960
reliant on regional connectivity.

01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:45.880
Hero Mustafa reports from Islamabad.

01:31:46.100 --> 01:31:47.540
Pakistani officials say

01:31:47.540 --> 01:31:50.120
flights to Dubai, Doha, Abu Dhabi,

01:31:50.400 --> 01:31:51.580
Muscat and Sharjah

01:31:51.580 --> 01:31:53.460
have been severely disrupted

01:31:53.460 --> 01:31:55.580
amid the ongoing regional crisis.

01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:58.140
They warn the situation is taking a toll

01:31:58.140 --> 01:32:00.540
on passengers and dealing a heavy blow

01:32:00.540 --> 01:32:01.980
to the aviation sector.

01:32:02.360 --> 01:32:04.600
Pakistan's national carrier PIA

01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:06.340
has cancelled more than

01:32:06.340 --> 01:32:08.500
500 flights so far.

01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:10.420
Flights that are still operating

01:32:10.420 --> 01:32:12.660
are being forced to take longer routes,

01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:14.460
driving up fuel consumption

01:32:14.460 --> 01:32:16.820
and insurance costs linked to

01:32:16.820 --> 01:32:17.960
war risk exposure.

01:32:18.380 --> 01:32:20.160
A US sector of state marker Rubio

01:32:20.160 --> 01:32:22.200
is joining G7 counterparts in France

01:32:22.200 --> 01:32:24.120
for talks on the conflict in Iran

01:32:24.120 --> 01:32:25.340
and the war in Ukraine.

01:32:25.860 --> 01:32:28.080
The UK is among several powers expressing concerns

01:32:28.080 --> 01:32:30.640
over Moscow allegedly sharing intelligence

01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:32.460
with Tehran to help them

01:32:32.460 --> 01:32:33.840
target US forces.

01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:36.880
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at the Northern Waters Outfitters

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Campground in Errol, New Hampshire.

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The owner has offered to host 100 campers

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at his campground which is being

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closed just for Forkfest.

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Anyone else who'd like to stay in the surrounding area

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may come for a day pass

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which is free.

01:33:40.750 --> 01:33:42.890
The only real restriction he's given us

01:33:42.890 --> 01:33:45.250
for this event is no nudism.

01:33:45.250 --> 01:33:47.750
That's Mayfest if you want to do that.

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Which I think we can deal with

01:33:50.150 --> 01:33:52.030
after the crazy restrictions Rogers

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started imposing.

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Forkfest stopped party for more info

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and Forkfest2026 at gmail.com

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to sign up as one of the 100 campers

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that will fit in the campground.

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In the studio tonight it's Stu,

01:34:09.130 --> 01:34:11.890
Riley O'Bill and Mark Edge.

01:34:14.290 --> 01:34:16.250
We were discussing 50 things

01:34:16.250 --> 01:34:18.090
Americans agree on.

01:34:18.650 --> 01:34:20.670
Yeah, there's few things

01:34:20.670 --> 01:34:23.070
that we think that Americans agree on.

01:34:23.270 --> 01:34:25.830
Maybe aren't so scant,

01:34:26.290 --> 01:34:28.550
but it seems like

01:34:28.550 --> 01:34:30.230
many of these things that are in here

01:34:30.230 --> 01:34:32.610
and I'm skipping over some boring ones,

01:34:32.770 --> 01:34:34.670
but I haven't honestly seen

01:34:34.670 --> 01:34:35.890
one that I really like.

01:34:36.990 --> 01:34:37.810
I mean, you know,

01:34:38.150 --> 01:34:39.810
here's one that says inflation is serious.

01:34:39.810 --> 01:34:41.930
Yeah, inflation is serious.

01:34:45.430 --> 01:34:48.290
But when you see things like

01:34:48.290 --> 01:34:50.530
social welfare programs are fine,

01:34:51.230 --> 01:34:52.190
I don't think I agree.

01:34:52.650 --> 01:34:55.130
Social welfare programs are often demonized

01:34:55.130 --> 01:34:56.370
by GOP politicians,

01:34:56.550 --> 01:34:58.450
but the majority of Americans overwhelmingly

01:34:58.450 --> 01:34:59.690
support these programs.

01:35:00.130 --> 01:35:02.350
When broken down by government benefit programs,

01:35:02.510 --> 01:35:05.530
79% of Americans have favorable views

01:35:05.530 --> 01:35:06.530
of Social Security,

01:35:07.530 --> 01:35:09.270
79% of Medicare,

01:35:09.610 --> 01:35:12.350
77% of disability insurance,

01:35:12.710 --> 01:35:14.690
76% have favorable views of Medicaid,

01:35:15.230 --> 01:35:17.630
74% have favorable views of SNAP,

01:35:17.910 --> 01:35:21.570
71% have favorable views of TAMF,

01:35:21.950 --> 01:35:23.250
temporary assistance for needy families,

01:35:23.650 --> 01:35:27.110
71% have favorable views of unemployment insurance,

01:35:27.530 --> 01:35:30.710
and 67% have favorable views of public housing assistance.

01:35:31.830 --> 01:35:33.410
And I'm not surprised,

01:35:33.410 --> 01:35:36.350
unsurprisingly, these numbers seem to mirror

01:35:36.350 --> 01:35:39.030
the people that don't pay much

01:35:39.030 --> 01:35:41.190
if any income tax.

01:35:42.150 --> 01:35:44.270
And I know that it feels like

01:35:44.270 --> 01:35:46.530
you're paying income tax because you're paying

01:35:46.530 --> 01:35:49.010
some Social Security tax,

01:35:49.790 --> 01:35:51.970
which your employer is matching.

01:35:52.490 --> 01:35:55.970
But in reality, if you remove the Social Security tax,

01:35:56.090 --> 01:35:57.790
the vast majority of Americans are

01:35:58.410 --> 01:36:00.650
not paying much at all,

01:36:00.650 --> 01:36:02.410
and a good percentage of them

01:36:02.410 --> 01:36:03.670
are actually getting something

01:36:03.670 --> 01:36:06.390
from the earned income family tax credit

01:36:06.390 --> 01:36:07.570
or whatever it might be.

01:36:08.210 --> 01:36:08.590
That's right.

01:36:10.170 --> 01:36:13.750
So it's about 20% of people

01:36:14.650 --> 01:36:16.710
pay, and really pay.

01:36:17.330 --> 01:36:19.190
I think that there's a little margin

01:36:19.190 --> 01:36:21.050
below 20% maybe, something like

01:36:22.010 --> 01:36:23.550
people who pay are in the

01:36:24.330 --> 01:36:26.770
30 to 20% bracket.

01:36:26.930 --> 01:36:27.490
They pay a little.

01:36:28.290 --> 01:36:29.490
But essentially, people who are

01:36:30.590 --> 01:36:32.770
70% of people who are below 30%

01:36:33.490 --> 01:36:35.630
of the wages, they're paying nothing.

01:36:36.190 --> 01:36:38.370
And what a surprise, 79% of Americans

01:36:38.370 --> 01:36:40.850
have a favorable view of this thing or that thing.

01:36:42.090 --> 01:36:42.950
I don't think

01:36:43.490 --> 01:36:45.950
the Social Security and Medicare are exactly

01:36:45.950 --> 01:36:47.970
fair here because those are

01:36:47.970 --> 01:36:50.070
separate programs that you pay into,

01:36:50.250 --> 01:36:52.490
so they have a slightly higher favorability,

01:36:53.310 --> 01:36:55.210
but disability insurance,

01:36:56.990 --> 01:36:58.030
Medicaid, SNAP,

01:36:58.030 --> 01:36:59.510
TAMF, these kind of things.

01:36:59.870 --> 01:37:01.690
Yeah, about the same amount of people

01:37:01.690 --> 01:37:03.790
who don't pay income tax

01:37:03.790 --> 01:37:05.850
also support these programs.

01:37:06.850 --> 01:37:08.670
Yeah, that's an interesting viewpoint.

01:37:09.030 --> 01:37:11.370
In my opinion, you could toss all of these out.

01:37:12.370 --> 01:37:14.370
Yeah, and I think that it would be a good thing.

01:37:15.030 --> 01:37:16.390
I think that if

01:37:16.990 --> 01:37:18.710
supporting people who really need

01:37:18.710 --> 01:37:20.730
your support is a good thing

01:37:20.730 --> 01:37:22.730
that in somewhere in the marketplace,

01:37:23.010 --> 01:37:25.270
charities or whatever will step up and do that.

01:37:25.850 --> 01:37:26.850
And then,

01:37:27.070 --> 01:37:29.410
the social safety net

01:37:29.410 --> 01:37:31.010
that has become a hammock,

01:37:31.650 --> 01:37:33.150
that's what will be destroyed,

01:37:33.710 --> 01:37:34.770
right, is that

01:37:34.770 --> 01:37:36.870
no church is going to let you just

01:37:36.870 --> 01:37:39.490
hang around. They might give you

01:37:39.490 --> 01:37:40.130
some assistance,

01:37:40.810 --> 01:37:42.650
but they're not going to let you just hang around

01:37:42.650 --> 01:37:44.130
month after month after month.

01:37:44.510 --> 01:37:46.970
Hey, I'm crazy. I can't work.

01:37:49.390 --> 01:37:51.250
That's what we're kind of getting told by Sarah

01:37:51.250 --> 01:37:52.050
earlier.

01:37:52.050 --> 01:37:55.030
Yep, the way the Mormon Church handles that is

01:37:55.030 --> 01:37:57.650
if they can't get you

01:37:57.650 --> 01:37:59.370
to where you're self-sufficient,

01:37:59.610 --> 01:38:01.910
they have several jobs they can put you into

01:38:01.910 --> 01:38:02.870
and they'll put you to work.

01:38:03.830 --> 01:38:05.490
Right, that sounds like a great plan.

01:38:06.090 --> 01:38:06.890
I think so too.

01:38:07.130 --> 01:38:09.770
There are ways that this can be handled

01:38:09.770 --> 01:38:12.150
without the theft

01:38:12.150 --> 01:38:13.510
that people call taxation.

01:38:15.590 --> 01:38:17.630
Absolutely. One thing I think

01:38:17.630 --> 01:38:19.970
so security probably does

01:38:20.730 --> 01:38:21.950
well, I'm sure

01:38:21.950 --> 01:38:24.010
that many of these programs that drive

01:38:24.010 --> 01:38:25.130
fathers out of homes

01:38:25.890 --> 01:38:28.010
because your family can't get as much

01:38:28.010 --> 01:38:29.210
with two incomes.

01:38:30.130 --> 01:38:31.410
So what's mom do?

01:38:31.650 --> 01:38:34.170
She says, I can keep

01:38:34.170 --> 01:38:35.990
dad around, but I can't marry him

01:38:35.990 --> 01:38:37.250
or whatever.

01:38:37.670 --> 01:38:39.690
And then the bond isn't quite as tight.

01:38:39.950 --> 01:38:41.810
So maybe dad goes away

01:38:41.810 --> 01:38:44.270
after a little while or whatever the case may be.

01:38:44.710 --> 01:38:45.810
And it destroys

01:38:45.810 --> 01:38:47.910
families in many ways.

01:38:47.910 --> 01:38:49.810
And so security,

01:38:49.970 --> 01:38:51.650
I think, causes

01:38:51.650 --> 01:38:53.810
parents to not be so cool

01:38:53.810 --> 01:38:55.950
with their kids. I mean, maybe you'd

01:38:55.950 --> 01:38:57.410
treat your kid better if you realized

01:38:57.410 --> 01:38:59.570
this is my social safety net here.

01:39:00.050 --> 01:39:00.950
Better treat him better.

01:39:01.610 --> 01:39:04.150
And not only that, but I think it's

01:39:05.530 --> 01:39:06.370
it's kind of a

01:39:07.770 --> 01:39:08.290
it's

01:39:08.290 --> 01:39:10.050
it's a misleading promise.

01:39:11.130 --> 01:39:11.650
It's

01:39:11.650 --> 01:39:14.030
supposed to supplement you in your old age,

01:39:14.030 --> 01:39:15.910
but it's

01:39:15.910 --> 01:39:17.530
by the time you've paid in

01:39:17.530 --> 01:39:19.850
dollars that were valued at, you know,

01:39:20.590 --> 01:39:21.630
market rate that

01:39:21.630 --> 01:39:23.830
you know, could actually actually buy

01:39:23.830 --> 01:39:25.790
goods, when you get those back, they're going to be so

01:39:25.790 --> 01:39:27.750
well inflated that, you know, loafer

01:39:27.750 --> 01:39:28.270
bread is

01:39:29.350 --> 01:39:31.650
up 300% from where it was when you were

01:39:31.650 --> 01:39:33.750
paying in. And it's just not it's not

01:39:33.750 --> 01:39:35.530
going to be the support that you were hoping for.

01:39:35.890 --> 01:39:37.790
Right. Some people will not

01:39:37.790 --> 01:39:39.790
save for retirement. They just won't do

01:39:39.790 --> 01:39:41.590
it. Right. Some people

01:39:42.490 --> 01:39:43.750
will always save

01:39:43.750 --> 01:39:45.570
for retirement. And

01:39:45.570 --> 01:39:47.530
there's nothing you, you know, whatever

01:39:47.530 --> 01:39:49.330
program you put out there, it doesn't make a difference.

01:39:49.650 --> 01:39:51.690
But there's this amount of people, and I

01:39:51.690 --> 01:39:53.550
wouldn't call it in the middle, but there's this percentage

01:39:53.550 --> 01:39:55.530
of people who if you take

01:39:55.530 --> 01:39:57.470
from them a certain amount

01:39:57.470 --> 01:39:59.710
every month and you say it's for retirement, they

01:39:59.710 --> 01:40:01.750
won't save. But if you didn't, they

01:40:01.750 --> 01:40:03.370
would. And

01:40:03.830 --> 01:40:05.690
you know, and save is whatever it is

01:40:05.690 --> 01:40:07.550
becomes part of a community, whatever, whatever

01:40:07.550 --> 01:40:09.710
the situation is in some way, guarantee

01:40:09.710 --> 01:40:11.350
that you're taking care of in your old age.

01:40:12.310 --> 01:40:13.710
And it's those people

01:40:13.710 --> 01:40:15.630
that are harmed the most by Social Security

01:40:15.630 --> 01:40:17.310
because Social Security isn't

01:40:17.310 --> 01:40:19.350
a promise to take care of you in your

01:40:19.350 --> 01:40:20.830
old age. It's a promise

01:40:21.140 --> 01:40:23.030
that we will give you the minimum

01:40:23.710 --> 01:40:25.430
possible for you to survive.

01:40:26.110 --> 01:40:27.470
Right. And, you know,

01:40:27.510 --> 01:40:28.590
dog food and

01:40:29.240 --> 01:40:31.330
housing projects, you know, it's

01:40:31.330 --> 01:40:33.550
not good. And that's

01:40:33.550 --> 01:40:35.250
where it really leaves people astray. They're

01:40:35.250 --> 01:40:37.430
like, I feel like I was betrayed by this

01:40:37.430 --> 01:40:39.150
system. And were they

01:40:39.150 --> 01:40:41.150
well, they didn't do enough

01:40:41.150 --> 01:40:43.430
research. That's for sure. Yeah, that was

01:40:43.430 --> 01:40:45.150
always the intention. They wanted to trust

01:40:45.150 --> 01:40:47.290
the Social Security system to take care of

01:40:47.290 --> 01:40:49.150
them, not realizing that government is inflating

01:40:49.150 --> 01:40:50.350
the value of your currency

01:40:50.970 --> 01:40:52.210
in favor of

01:40:52.930 --> 01:40:54.710
you know, feeding the

01:40:55.290 --> 01:40:56.350
welfare people

01:40:57.110 --> 01:40:59.250
rather than taking care of inflation

01:40:59.250 --> 01:41:01.370
and managing it by, you know,

01:41:01.510 --> 01:41:02.530
not spending as much.

01:41:03.750 --> 01:41:05.430
That's right. Your government doesn't

01:41:05.430 --> 01:41:06.190
care about you.

01:41:06.910 --> 01:41:08.490
No. No, they just

01:41:08.490 --> 01:41:10.170
want your vote. And

01:41:10.170 --> 01:41:12.010
they are willing to throw some

01:41:12.010 --> 01:41:14.030
crumbs out there in order to get it,

01:41:14.050 --> 01:41:15.370
especially the Democratic Party.

01:41:16.910 --> 01:41:17.990
But, yeah,

01:41:18.490 --> 01:41:19.790
they, you know, neither party

01:41:19.790 --> 01:41:21.930
actually cares about you.

01:41:22.290 --> 01:41:23.010
No, how could they?

01:41:24.070 --> 01:41:25.370
How could they? Yeah.

01:41:25.730 --> 01:41:27.190
How could they? How could they?

01:41:27.790 --> 01:41:30.270
How can you have representatives

01:41:30.270 --> 01:41:31.570
that don't even know you?

01:41:32.370 --> 01:41:33.830
So just care about you.

01:41:33.830 --> 01:41:35.630
Yeah. Yeah.

01:41:36.030 --> 01:41:37.670
They're just people who are,

01:41:37.690 --> 01:41:39.950
you know, they're the person that's in that geographic

01:41:39.950 --> 01:41:41.850
area that's best suited to lie

01:41:41.850 --> 01:41:43.810
to you, right? They tell the most

01:41:43.810 --> 01:41:44.770
convincing lies.

01:41:45.850 --> 01:41:47.870
Ladies and gentlemen, I care

01:41:47.870 --> 01:41:49.410
deeply about my constituents.

01:41:50.570 --> 01:41:51.650
Right? Yeah.

01:41:51.890 --> 01:41:53.930
I mean, obviously, that's what

01:41:53.930 --> 01:41:55.750
the system was designed to do

01:41:55.750 --> 01:41:57.790
is to elevate the person who

01:41:57.790 --> 01:41:59.190
is the best at lying.

01:41:59.870 --> 01:42:01.570
Yeah. Yeah, Bill Clinton saying,

01:42:01.570 --> 01:42:03.710
I feel your pain and all of that.

01:42:03.710 --> 01:42:05.670
He doesn't feel anyone's pain at all.

01:42:05.990 --> 01:42:06.510
No.

01:42:07.450 --> 01:42:09.810
Nope. He probably felt the pain

01:42:09.810 --> 01:42:10.350
of those

01:42:11.810 --> 01:42:13.670
those young ladies that he

01:42:13.670 --> 01:42:15.630
molested there on Epstein Island.

01:42:16.110 --> 01:42:17.510
No, I bet it was too

01:42:17.510 --> 01:42:19.690
coked up to feel much pain

01:42:19.690 --> 01:42:20.810
at all. Yeah.

01:42:21.110 --> 01:42:23.030
See the tears running down their faces?

01:42:23.650 --> 01:42:26.050
Who knows? I bet they felt the pain, but.

01:42:26.550 --> 01:42:27.130
I bet they did.

01:42:28.250 --> 01:42:29.770
Let's go on to the next

01:42:29.770 --> 01:42:30.050
one.

01:42:31.150 --> 01:42:32.630
Americans agree we see

01:42:32.630 --> 01:42:34.970
too many political ads.

01:42:35.410 --> 01:42:36.010
Yes, we do.

01:42:36.610 --> 01:42:38.830
Some countries have legal limits on

01:42:38.830 --> 01:42:40.550
candidate ads. For instance, Canada's

01:42:40.550 --> 01:42:42.270
campaign season is typically less than

01:42:42.270 --> 01:42:44.510
three months. In Mexico, it's 90

01:42:44.510 --> 01:42:45.990
days as though that's some kind of

01:42:45.990 --> 01:42:46.850
difference in three months.

01:42:47.330 --> 01:42:49.490
In Argentina, it's 60 days.

01:42:49.970 --> 01:42:52.030
This is really, truly written for

01:42:52.030 --> 01:42:52.570
stupid people.

01:42:53.890 --> 01:42:55.550
It's 60 days in France.

01:42:55.550 --> 01:42:57.510
Election campaigning is usually about two

01:42:57.510 --> 01:42:59.350
weeks long. Meanwhile, in America,

01:42:59.390 --> 01:43:01.450
candidates announced they're running up to two years

01:43:01.450 --> 01:43:03.230
in advance. But that doesn't mean

01:43:03.230 --> 01:43:05.350
we like it. The majority of Americans

01:43:05.350 --> 01:43:07.450
64% believe that there are too

01:43:07.450 --> 01:43:08.390
many political ads.

01:43:10.030 --> 01:43:11.430
I guess I have to agree

01:43:11.430 --> 01:43:13.210
with them. I don't like it.

01:43:13.610 --> 01:43:15.690
But I, at the same time,

01:43:15.710 --> 01:43:17.670
wouldn't propose

01:43:17.670 --> 01:43:18.850
to stop it.

01:43:19.650 --> 01:43:21.670
I, you know, whatever.

01:43:22.350 --> 01:43:23.050
This is

01:43:23.050 --> 01:43:25.470
what your system has wrought, ladies

01:43:25.470 --> 01:43:26.870
and gentlemen. It is

01:43:26.870 --> 01:43:29.250
so valuable right now

01:43:29.250 --> 01:43:31.010
to become president

01:43:31.010 --> 01:43:32.790
or a senator or representative

01:43:32.790 --> 01:43:35.290
that the parties are willing to spend

01:43:35.290 --> 01:43:37.070
millions and millions

01:43:37.070 --> 01:43:39.210
of dollars to get there. And

01:43:39.210 --> 01:43:40.210
more importantly,

01:43:41.310 --> 01:43:42.750
people, wealthy people,

01:43:42.950 --> 01:43:45.030
corporations are willing

01:43:45.030 --> 01:43:46.910
to donate in order

01:43:46.910 --> 01:43:48.550
to get those

01:43:48.550 --> 01:43:51.330
positions, to get the favors from people who

01:43:51.330 --> 01:43:52.110
get into those positions.

01:43:53.770 --> 01:43:55.350
And that's what it comes down to.

01:43:56.550 --> 01:43:56.970
And

01:43:56.970 --> 01:43:59.510
I mean, Americans know it.

01:44:00.010 --> 01:44:01.170
What are we going to do about it?

01:44:02.070 --> 01:44:02.990
We have to get the

01:44:02.990 --> 01:44:04.930
politicians who benefit from this

01:44:04.930 --> 01:44:06.750
qui bono, right? Who benefits?

01:44:07.530 --> 01:44:09.190
We have to get the politicians who benefit

01:44:09.190 --> 01:44:10.830
from this to stop it.

01:44:11.510 --> 01:44:12.790
And they're not going to stop it.

01:44:13.110 --> 01:44:14.230
No, they're not going to stop it.

01:44:14.650 --> 01:44:16.970
This is even the part that everybody knows about.

01:44:18.450 --> 01:44:19.410
It gets a lot

01:44:19.410 --> 01:44:20.830
more shady than that.

01:44:21.190 --> 01:44:22.670
But I mean,

01:44:23.330 --> 01:44:24.790
most people do know that

01:44:24.790 --> 01:44:27.370
that's how it is. Your government's for sale

01:44:27.370 --> 01:44:28.370
to the highest bidder.

01:44:31.250 --> 01:44:32.610
The next one.

01:44:33.190 --> 01:44:35.110
This is what we call talk radio hell.

01:44:35.770 --> 01:44:36.510
Are you guys prepared?

01:44:37.290 --> 01:44:38.910
Yeah, let's do it.

01:44:39.370 --> 01:44:41.010
You know what talk radio hell is, guys?

01:44:41.810 --> 01:44:42.830
Not exactly, but

01:44:43.410 --> 01:44:44.730
I'm sure you'll tell us.

01:44:45.590 --> 01:44:46.130
Abortion.

01:44:46.130 --> 01:44:48.230
Abortion should be legal

01:44:48.230 --> 01:44:49.010
in many cases.

01:44:49.790 --> 01:44:51.550
On June 24, 2020,

01:44:51.830 --> 01:44:53.610
the Supreme Court overturned

01:44:53.610 --> 01:44:55.770
Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion

01:44:55.770 --> 01:44:57.970
federally. Since then, many states

01:44:57.970 --> 01:44:59.850
have outlawed or restricted abortion.

01:45:00.250 --> 01:45:01.850
But most Americans disagree

01:45:01.850 --> 01:45:04.050
with the court according to this poll.

01:45:04.870 --> 01:45:05.930
64%

01:45:05.930 --> 01:45:07.970
believe abortion should be legal in

01:45:07.970 --> 01:45:09.330
most or all cases.

01:45:09.550 --> 01:45:11.650
And 59% believe that Roe v.

01:45:11.950 --> 01:45:13.810
Wade shouldn't have been overturned.

01:45:13.810 --> 01:45:15.190
Now, I would disagree.

01:45:15.410 --> 01:45:16.930
I think Roe v. Wade was bad law.

01:45:17.610 --> 01:45:19.270
I don't think that

01:45:19.650 --> 01:45:21.770
it, you know, we currently

01:45:21.770 --> 01:45:23.710
states decide what

01:45:23.710 --> 01:45:25.450
homicide is and how it's defined.

01:45:26.010 --> 01:45:27.410
But for some reason,

01:45:28.310 --> 01:45:29.730
the killing of

01:45:29.730 --> 01:45:31.590
infants needed to be

01:45:32.250 --> 01:45:33.370
federally allowed.

01:45:33.830 --> 01:45:35.030
And I just think that's wrong.

01:45:36.070 --> 01:45:37.650
Now, I think everybody

01:45:37.650 --> 01:45:39.390
can agree that, you know,

01:45:39.490 --> 01:45:41.630
the terminology I use, they know where I'm

01:45:41.630 --> 01:45:42.910
at, but they don't.

01:45:43.510 --> 01:45:44.990
I, in fact, believe

01:45:45.630 --> 01:45:46.590
that if you

01:45:48.090 --> 01:45:49.610
are committed enough

01:45:49.610 --> 01:45:51.430
to go to Planned Parenthood

01:45:51.430 --> 01:45:53.030
or some other abortion clinic

01:45:53.430 --> 01:45:55.550
and kill your offspring, your unborn

01:45:55.550 --> 01:45:57.390
offspring, that you should

01:45:58.450 --> 01:45:59.850
absolutely think you should,

01:46:00.010 --> 01:46:01.590
because you clearly are an unfit

01:46:01.590 --> 01:46:03.450
mother. And that kid is

01:46:03.450 --> 01:46:05.050
very likely to grow up and be

01:46:05.590 --> 01:46:05.870
awful.

01:46:06.730 --> 01:46:09.470
Yeah, I kind of, I don't know, sort

01:46:09.470 --> 01:46:11.070
of agree along those lines.

01:46:11.350 --> 01:46:13.330
Epigenetic expression can turn out

01:46:13.330 --> 01:46:15.130
a lot of different ways, and I don't think

01:46:15.130 --> 01:46:17.310
that, I don't think that, you know,

01:46:18.690 --> 01:46:19.370
sometimes the

01:46:19.370 --> 01:46:21.430
fruit does fall quite a ways from

01:46:21.430 --> 01:46:23.330
the tree, but it does. My only concern

01:46:23.330 --> 01:46:25.450
about this approach is how you, that

01:46:25.990 --> 01:46:27.610
this approach might incentivize

01:46:27.610 --> 01:46:29.490
people from, for just, I'll

01:46:29.490 --> 01:46:31.390
just have sex and have a hookup or whatever

01:46:31.390 --> 01:46:33.030
and forget pregnant, I'll just abort the baby.

01:46:34.190 --> 01:46:35.150
So I

01:46:35.150 --> 01:46:37.350
can understand the concern

01:46:37.350 --> 01:46:39.450
behind that, but also I agree with you, Mark

01:46:39.450 --> 01:46:40.770
that, you know, if you're going to

01:46:41.230 --> 01:46:43.190
go through it, then you should just go through

01:46:43.190 --> 01:46:44.850
with it, because you're going to be a bad mom anyway.

01:46:45.950 --> 01:46:46.350
You're irresponsible.

01:46:47.910 --> 01:46:49.470
Well, yeah, and I agree

01:46:49.470 --> 01:46:51.330
that is the, what you're doing

01:46:51.330 --> 01:46:53.090
there is you've murdered your offspring.

01:46:53.810 --> 01:46:55.390
However, I don't think it's

01:46:55.390 --> 01:46:57.110
any of the state's business

01:46:57.110 --> 01:46:58.930
whether you're going to murder your offspring.

01:46:59.570 --> 01:47:01.330
I don't use the term murder. I like

01:47:01.330 --> 01:47:03.190
homicide. Homicide simply says

01:47:03.190 --> 01:47:04.030
the killing of a human.

01:47:04.750 --> 01:47:05.230
Okay.

01:47:06.050 --> 01:47:07.550
Oh, murder has

01:47:08.270 --> 01:47:08.750
pretty,

01:47:09.950 --> 01:47:10.910
that denotes

01:47:11.550 --> 01:47:13.450
what do they call it, premeditation.

01:47:14.130 --> 01:47:15.850
Is that right? It doesn't necessarily, but

01:47:15.850 --> 01:47:18.010
it, you know, I just prefer, I just

01:47:18.010 --> 01:47:19.290
don't like that term personally.

01:47:19.730 --> 01:47:21.670
I think homicide is a,

01:47:21.770 --> 01:47:23.270
as factual as you can get.

01:47:24.570 --> 01:47:25.810
But, yeah.

01:47:25.810 --> 01:47:28.730
I tend to use murder because it's a little more offensive and

01:47:29.290 --> 01:47:30.030
you know,

01:47:30.650 --> 01:47:31.970
the killing of an unborn baby

01:47:31.970 --> 01:47:33.330
is kind of offensive to me.

01:47:34.090 --> 01:47:35.930
I think it's funny that the vast majority

01:47:35.930 --> 01:47:37.850
of people that are pro-life

01:47:37.850 --> 01:47:38.930
vote Republican

01:47:39.740 --> 01:47:42.110
and therefore are trying to save

01:47:42.110 --> 01:47:43.650
the people in the party

01:47:43.650 --> 01:47:45.670
that are on the other side

01:47:45.670 --> 01:47:47.110
because it's true.

01:47:47.690 --> 01:47:49.150
Democrats probably

01:47:49.970 --> 01:47:51.550
you know, comfortably

01:47:51.550 --> 01:47:53.650
have 80%,

01:47:53.650 --> 01:47:56.110
80% of the abortions.

01:47:57.150 --> 01:47:57.510
And

01:47:57.510 --> 01:48:00.350
Democrats who are in the benefitting

01:48:00.350 --> 01:48:01.430
side of those voters

01:48:01.430 --> 01:48:04.010
are like, no, no, just kill them.

01:48:04.750 --> 01:48:06.050
Like it's just, it's sort of,

01:48:06.150 --> 01:48:07.610
it's cross ways and

01:48:07.610 --> 01:48:10.110
generally the parties don't go that way.

01:48:10.570 --> 01:48:12.090
You have a very difficult time

01:48:12.090 --> 01:48:13.750
finding a pro-life

01:48:14.330 --> 01:48:15.850
liberal. I know a couple

01:48:16.390 --> 01:48:17.550
but, you know,

01:48:17.910 --> 01:48:20.470
they don't want of course somebody to be locked up

01:48:20.470 --> 01:48:21.210
and I wouldn't either

01:48:21.210 --> 01:48:23.670
want a doctor locked up for these things.

01:48:24.070 --> 01:48:25.870
But, you know,

01:48:26.310 --> 01:48:28.350
that's about the only way thing you can do, right?

01:48:29.130 --> 01:48:30.730
That's what our system's designed to do is

01:48:30.730 --> 01:48:32.690
lock up people who do bad things.

01:48:33.070 --> 01:48:34.950
So, that's all you can do is lock up doctors.

01:48:35.450 --> 01:48:36.710
That's not a very good system.

01:48:37.310 --> 01:48:38.330
There's a...

01:48:38.330 --> 01:48:40.330
You know, a good

01:48:41.010 --> 01:48:42.250
healthy dose of shame

01:48:42.250 --> 01:48:44.610
I think we go a lot longer way

01:48:44.610 --> 01:48:45.390
with that than

01:48:46.070 --> 01:48:47.850
being put in a cage for a little while.

01:48:48.370 --> 01:48:50.450
And this is the difference between the

01:48:50.450 --> 01:48:52.510
parties, right? Like the belief

01:48:52.510 --> 01:48:54.350
systems of them. I don't think you can

01:48:54.350 --> 01:48:55.410
shame Democrats

01:48:55.410 --> 01:48:57.730
by, you know,

01:48:57.790 --> 01:48:59.270
the pro-lifers saying,

01:48:59.510 --> 01:49:01.370
hey, that's bad. We've been trying that

01:49:01.370 --> 01:49:02.890
for decades and it's just not working.

01:49:03.170 --> 01:49:04.910
That's true. It just seems to outrage them

01:49:04.910 --> 01:49:06.030
and make them want to do it more.

01:49:06.750 --> 01:49:09.470
Now, I would point out that this is another one of those

01:49:09.470 --> 01:49:11.430
you bake the cake situations

01:49:11.430 --> 01:49:13.730
because the vast majority of people

01:49:13.730 --> 01:49:15.310
who are affected

01:49:15.310 --> 01:49:16.810
by this are in

01:49:17.750 --> 01:49:18.870
Republican states.

01:49:19.390 --> 01:49:21.230
So, it's just going to cause

01:49:21.230 --> 01:49:23.350
the leftists in

01:49:23.350 --> 01:49:24.770
the Republican states to leave

01:49:25.330 --> 01:49:26.470
more so.

01:49:27.350 --> 01:49:29.310
And maybe, if you care deeply enough

01:49:29.310 --> 01:49:31.210
about it, the righties to move

01:49:31.210 --> 01:49:32.670
out of the Democratic states.

01:49:33.070 --> 01:49:33.950
I really wonder

01:49:33.950 --> 01:49:35.150
about

01:49:36.650 --> 01:49:38.610
Democrats in Utah

01:49:39.350 --> 01:49:41.050
and I wonder about

01:49:41.050 --> 01:49:42.330
Republicans

01:49:43.090 --> 01:49:44.910
in Portsmouth. Is it

01:49:44.910 --> 01:49:47.290
Portland? I mean, they exist, right?

01:49:47.750 --> 01:49:48.370
You know, they're there.

01:49:48.710 --> 01:49:50.870
There's a lot of Democrats, especially

01:49:50.870 --> 01:49:52.370
in Salt Lake City, Utah.

01:49:52.870 --> 01:49:53.390
Plenty of them.

01:49:54.270 --> 01:49:55.870
They might be the majority at this point.

01:49:57.610 --> 01:49:58.510
Is it? I don't know.

01:49:59.250 --> 01:50:01.290
Are you Mormon or born Mormon?

01:50:01.670 --> 01:50:03.130
Yeah. Born into the Covenant,

01:50:03.410 --> 01:50:04.210
as they say, yes.

01:50:04.530 --> 01:50:06.750
Sue and I are both born LDS, yes.

01:50:08.030 --> 01:50:08.230
Okay.

01:50:08.650 --> 01:50:10.810
Yeah, I didn't know

01:50:10.810 --> 01:50:12.590
that. All I know

01:50:12.590 --> 01:50:14.970
is that there's a lot of good Mormons

01:50:14.970 --> 01:50:16.630
in the libertarian sphere.

01:50:17.510 --> 01:50:17.630
Yeah.

01:50:18.310 --> 01:50:19.450
I don't know why.

01:50:20.550 --> 01:50:21.390
It's because

01:50:23.730 --> 01:50:24.290
Mormonism

01:50:24.290 --> 01:50:26.590
heaps so much cognitive dissonance

01:50:26.590 --> 01:50:28.090
on you that your shelf breaks

01:50:28.090 --> 01:50:29.510
before most Americans.

01:50:30.030 --> 01:50:32.230
And so you have to deal

01:50:32.230 --> 01:50:32.610
with things.

01:50:33.130 --> 01:50:35.250
Is that really true? You weren't indoctrinated

01:50:35.250 --> 01:50:37.670
in some way with some minor libertarian

01:50:37.670 --> 01:50:38.750
beliefs?

01:50:38.990 --> 01:50:41.270
Well, I know Joseph Smith has been quoted

01:50:41.270 --> 01:50:42.950
as saying that he teaches

01:50:43.510 --> 01:50:45.290
people correct principles and allows

01:50:45.290 --> 01:50:46.850
them to govern themselves, but

01:50:46.850 --> 01:50:49.390
the church doesn't operate that way at all.

01:50:49.510 --> 01:50:51.430
You have a prophet who dictates

01:50:51.430 --> 01:50:53.310
to you what you should drink and what you should

01:50:53.310 --> 01:50:55.450
wear. He said that, but he also

01:50:55.450 --> 01:50:57.210
ran for president in the United States.

01:50:57.390 --> 01:50:57.570
Yeah.

01:50:57.970 --> 01:51:00.970
And he also talked about setting up

01:51:00.970 --> 01:51:02.830
an entire nation of his own

01:51:02.830 --> 01:51:05.110
that he would be a new Mohammed

01:51:05.110 --> 01:51:07.370
to the world. He had a lot of interesting

01:51:07.370 --> 01:51:08.190
things to say.

01:51:09.510 --> 01:51:11.190
He's also made king of the world

01:51:11.190 --> 01:51:11.830
at some point.

01:51:14.210 --> 01:51:15.030
Who's this?

01:51:15.390 --> 01:51:15.770
Joseph Smith.

01:51:15.990 --> 01:51:17.830
The founder of

01:51:17.830 --> 01:51:18.790
the Mormon religion.

01:51:19.390 --> 01:51:21.170
And what is his name?

01:51:21.790 --> 01:51:22.370
Joseph Smith.

01:51:24.150 --> 01:51:25.490
I know Brigham Young

01:51:25.490 --> 01:51:27.230
because of the university.

01:51:28.170 --> 01:51:28.390
Yep.

01:51:30.150 --> 01:51:32.050
He's the guy that took over the majority

01:51:32.050 --> 01:51:32.630
after

01:51:33.770 --> 01:51:35.350
Joseph Smith was murdered.

01:51:36.110 --> 01:51:36.810
There was a minority?

01:51:37.710 --> 01:51:39.650
Yes. The minority followed

01:51:39.650 --> 01:51:41.750
Joseph Smith's wife and became

01:51:42.910 --> 01:51:43.550
the

01:51:43.550 --> 01:51:45.050
organized LDS church.

01:51:45.410 --> 01:51:47.090
Now they've renamed

01:51:47.090 --> 01:51:48.690
to a community of Christ.

01:51:50.350 --> 01:51:50.790
Interesting.

01:51:51.370 --> 01:51:53.850
How majority, how minority

01:51:53.850 --> 01:51:54.330
was it?

01:51:55.090 --> 01:51:56.150
That one was pretty minority.

01:51:57.230 --> 01:51:59.230
There were also their splinter groups during

01:51:59.230 --> 01:52:00.930
that time as well, but they're not

01:52:00.930 --> 01:52:03.150
well known and talked about much.

01:52:03.630 --> 01:52:05.330
And then when Polygamy was out a lot

01:52:05.330 --> 01:52:06.690
he had further splintering.

01:52:06.690 --> 01:52:07.590
Yes.

01:52:08.230 --> 01:52:11.130
Then I know they're the fundamentalist LDS.

01:52:11.570 --> 01:52:14.650
There's also another group

01:52:14.650 --> 01:52:16.770
that practices Polygamy called

01:52:16.770 --> 01:52:17.990
the Kingston group.

01:52:18.410 --> 01:52:20.230
They also call themselves the Order.

01:52:20.910 --> 01:52:21.850
They live in Northern Utah.

01:52:22.930 --> 01:52:24.690
And so, yeah, there are a lot of

01:52:24.690 --> 01:52:25.910
splinter groups after Polygamy.

01:52:27.510 --> 01:52:28.670
And here's

01:52:28.670 --> 01:52:30.510
I'm curious, maybe you guys know better than

01:52:30.510 --> 01:52:32.450
me, Polygamy is a system

01:52:32.450 --> 01:52:34.250
that does not work mathematically.

01:52:35.030 --> 01:52:36.230
About as many

01:52:36.230 --> 01:52:37.690
men are born as women

01:52:38.250 --> 01:52:39.870
and if you're letting

01:52:39.870 --> 01:52:42.090
the old guys have

01:52:42.090 --> 01:52:44.250
three wives, that means

01:52:44.250 --> 01:52:45.350
that for every

01:52:46.190 --> 01:52:48.130
basically all the young guys

01:52:48.130 --> 01:52:50.130
or nearly all of them, you'd have to be

01:52:50.130 --> 01:52:51.870
a real butt kisser

01:52:51.870 --> 01:52:54.210
in order to survive

01:52:54.210 --> 01:52:55.510
this grist mill.

01:52:57.390 --> 01:52:59.450
They don't get wives.

01:53:00.190 --> 01:53:00.850
What happens?

01:53:00.850 --> 01:53:02.250
How does it work?

01:53:02.390 --> 01:53:04.170
In these smaller communities it really

01:53:04.170 --> 01:53:05.750
causes a lot of havoc.

01:53:07.930 --> 01:53:08.450
They

01:53:08.450 --> 01:53:10.210
locally term

01:53:10.210 --> 01:53:12.150
the young men lost boys.

01:53:12.310 --> 01:53:13.970
They get rejected from their community.

01:53:14.390 --> 01:53:16.150
In some cases they're allowed to come back

01:53:16.150 --> 01:53:17.590
once they've made a certain amount of money

01:53:17.590 --> 01:53:18.510
or something like that.

01:53:20.470 --> 01:53:22.670
But it's very sad for the young men

01:53:22.670 --> 01:53:24.490
because they've just turned out of the community

01:53:24.490 --> 01:53:25.390
because there aren't enough

01:53:26.310 --> 01:53:27.930
prospective wives for them.

01:53:29.790 --> 01:53:30.250
I

01:53:30.250 --> 01:53:30.750
don't know how

01:53:30.750 --> 01:53:32.970
it was going to work out.

01:53:33.730 --> 01:53:35.490
Very high standards on the young men

01:53:35.490 --> 01:53:37.830
and then when they fail to reach those high

01:53:37.830 --> 01:53:39.750
standards they say, you're out of here?

01:53:40.030 --> 01:53:40.190
Yeah.

01:53:41.310 --> 01:53:43.910
That makes sense. That's a good system

01:53:43.910 --> 01:53:45.970
if you're going to do something

01:53:45.970 --> 01:53:46.430
this dumb.

01:53:47.310 --> 01:53:49.730
I don't know how it was supposed to work on

01:53:49.730 --> 01:53:51.650
a large scale

01:53:52.890 --> 01:53:53.730
except that

01:53:53.730 --> 01:53:55.810
I know in the early days

01:53:55.810 --> 01:53:57.110
of it there was a lot of

01:53:58.110 --> 01:53:59.970
marrying the wives of people

01:53:59.970 --> 01:54:00.590
who had died

01:54:00.590 --> 01:54:02.410
or marrying

01:54:02.410 --> 01:54:05.030
your buddy's wife in secret.

01:54:05.610 --> 01:54:07.790
There was a lot of weird stuff going on.

01:54:07.830 --> 01:54:07.990
Oh yeah.

01:54:08.830 --> 01:54:09.710
Well this kind of

01:54:11.810 --> 01:54:13.510
marrying widows made sense

01:54:13.510 --> 01:54:14.930
when men died at 40

01:54:15.630 --> 01:54:17.030
but marrying widows

01:54:17.030 --> 01:54:18.690
when men died at 80

01:54:18.690 --> 01:54:20.210
makes a lot less sense.

01:54:20.670 --> 01:54:20.910
Yeah.

01:54:20.910 --> 01:54:21.390
Yeah.

01:54:22.710 --> 01:54:23.970
And this was

01:54:24.710 --> 01:54:26.670
pretty civil war so people were still

01:54:26.670 --> 01:54:28.630
drinking bad water and then

01:54:28.630 --> 01:54:29.850
crapping themselves to death.

01:54:30.870 --> 01:54:32.610
Death at 40

01:54:32.610 --> 01:54:34.270
was probably still pretty common.

01:54:35.670 --> 01:54:36.850
I don't know

01:54:36.850 --> 01:54:38.910
what they had in mind for all this.

01:54:40.430 --> 01:54:40.850
How that was

01:54:40.850 --> 01:54:42.930
They probably just wanted extra wives

01:54:42.930 --> 01:54:44.610
and they didn't really have much in mind.

01:54:44.850 --> 01:54:46.990
Absolutely. That was the drive of it.

01:54:47.150 --> 01:54:48.870
I don't know if he had

01:54:48.870 --> 01:54:50.870
a long term plan for it. Probably not.

01:54:51.190 --> 01:54:53.050
He switched things up on the fly

01:54:53.050 --> 01:54:53.650
a lot.

01:54:54.730 --> 01:54:56.970
He was a crafty guy Joseph Smith

01:54:57.570 --> 01:54:58.850
studying his history.

01:54:59.410 --> 01:55:00.930
He definitely was. I mean he was

01:55:00.930 --> 01:55:02.190
treasure digging and

01:55:02.870 --> 01:55:04.790
putting a rock in a hat and claiming to

01:55:04.790 --> 01:55:05.510
translate a book.

01:55:06.450 --> 01:55:08.690
It's absolutely the most American

01:55:08.690 --> 01:55:09.970
religion ever invented.

01:55:10.870 --> 01:55:11.630
It really is.

01:55:12.070 --> 01:55:13.850
Well it's a very American invention.

01:55:14.590 --> 01:55:16.810
Yeah. Americans love a good scam.

01:55:17.930 --> 01:55:19.670
That's why they support government

01:55:19.670 --> 01:55:20.910
and social security.

01:55:21.890 --> 01:55:22.890
I guess

01:55:22.890 --> 01:55:25.070
all religions can be boiled down

01:55:25.070 --> 01:55:26.350
to a few funny little

01:55:26.350 --> 01:55:28.350
phrases right and

01:55:28.350 --> 01:55:29.690
gone after.

01:55:31.350 --> 01:55:32.590
I think that

01:55:33.410 --> 01:55:35.470
one thing that we could agree on

01:55:35.470 --> 01:55:37.210
atheists or otherwise

01:55:37.210 --> 01:55:38.470
is that

01:55:38.470 --> 01:55:40.810
we, this species

01:55:40.810 --> 01:55:42.530
was evolved or created

01:55:42.530 --> 01:55:44.870
to believe

01:55:44.870 --> 01:55:46.290
in a God is that

01:55:46.870 --> 01:55:47.730
everybody does.

01:55:48.330 --> 01:55:49.590
Every society does

01:55:50.590 --> 01:55:51.630
and that

01:55:51.630 --> 01:55:53.850
presumably the societies that did not

01:55:53.850 --> 01:55:54.730
aren't here.

01:55:55.670 --> 01:55:57.490
Maybe the Neanderthals

01:55:57.490 --> 01:55:58.890
were atheists.

01:55:59.950 --> 01:56:02.330
Whatever they were they didn't make it.

01:56:03.950 --> 01:56:05.410
That's entirely possible.

01:56:06.530 --> 01:56:06.730
Yeah.

01:56:07.170 --> 01:56:07.930
Yeah.

01:56:08.170 --> 01:56:10.810
The history of religion is very fascinating

01:56:10.810 --> 01:56:11.810
to the way that

01:56:12.630 --> 01:56:13.850
paganism was the

01:56:13.850 --> 01:56:14.650
prevalent

01:56:16.610 --> 01:56:17.650
belief across

01:56:17.650 --> 01:56:19.150
the world at one point and then

01:56:19.710 --> 01:56:21.510
Christianity became popular and then

01:56:21.510 --> 01:56:23.270
there was kind of a struggle between them

01:56:23.270 --> 01:56:25.690
and Christianity kind of paganized

01:56:25.690 --> 01:56:27.850
and paganism kind of Christianized

01:56:27.850 --> 01:56:29.690
and everything sort of gets

01:56:29.690 --> 01:56:31.150
mixed together. There's so much

01:56:32.390 --> 01:56:34.290
from the eastern traditions

01:56:34.290 --> 01:56:35.950
that mix into the western traditions

01:56:36.330 --> 01:56:36.730
and

01:56:38.170 --> 01:56:39.950
it's because a lot of it

01:56:39.950 --> 01:56:41.850
is sort of just allegorical

01:56:42.510 --> 01:56:42.990
and

01:56:44.050 --> 01:56:45.270
built on metaphors.

01:56:45.930 --> 01:56:46.650
And it appeals.

01:56:47.690 --> 01:56:49.330
It appeals to people. They want it.

01:56:49.730 --> 01:56:51.690
Yeah, absolutely. Well, especially

01:56:51.690 --> 01:56:53.910
with like Mormonism, who doesn't want to

01:56:53.910 --> 01:56:55.890
be sealed to their family for eternity?

01:56:56.390 --> 01:56:56.610
For eternity. Yeah.

01:56:57.770 --> 01:56:59.610
That's their one, that's their biggest

01:56:59.610 --> 01:57:01.570
goal to promise that they can, they have

01:57:01.570 --> 01:57:03.570
the power to seal you to your loved ones

01:57:03.570 --> 01:57:05.590
so that in the next life

01:57:05.590 --> 01:57:06.850
In heaven? Yeah.

01:57:06.850 --> 01:57:08.630
Yeah. Okay.

01:57:08.890 --> 01:57:10.230
Yep, you'll be able to be with your... I just haven't

01:57:10.230 --> 01:57:12.170
heard the terminology. With your family forever.

01:57:12.510 --> 01:57:14.170
Yep. Give us a call.

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From Feature Story News

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in New York, I'm Mitch McCann

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with the Week in Review.

01:59:41.700 --> 01:59:43.740
U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio

01:59:43.740 --> 01:59:45.260
said on Friday that the U.S.

01:59:45.340 --> 01:59:46.900
can achieve its objectives in Iran

01:59:46.900 --> 01:59:48.680
without needing to send in American

01:59:48.680 --> 01:59:50.680
ground troops. Diplomatic efforts

01:59:50.680 --> 01:59:52.560
to end the conflict are continuing,

01:59:52.560 --> 01:59:54.620
but Rubio has suggested there was still

01:59:54.620 --> 01:59:55.880
no direct communications.

01:59:56.480 --> 01:59:58.020
Nick Harper reports from Washington.

01:59:58.500 --> 02:00:00.280
A new timeline for this U.S.

02:00:00.280 --> 02:00:02.220
operation in Iran now coming from

02:00:02.220 --> 02:00:04.040
the Secretary of State Marco Rubio

02:00:04.520 --> 02:00:06.140
saying that operations would

02:00:06.140 --> 02:00:08.500
conclude at the appropriate time

02:00:08.500 --> 02:00:10.860
but it would be weeks, not months.

02:00:11.500 --> 02:00:12.640
He said that negotiations

02:00:12.640 --> 02:00:14.420
had not begun in earnest

02:00:14.420 --> 02:00:16.140
but that the U.S. had exchanged

02:00:16.140 --> 02:00:18.240
messages with Iran and

02:00:18.240 --> 02:00:20.800
received indications from the Iranians

02:00:20.800 --> 02:00:22.860
about a willingness to talk

02:00:22.860 --> 02:00:25.360
and still in the background is the possibility

02:00:25.360 --> 02:00:27.420
of U.S. boots on the ground.

02:00:27.740 --> 02:00:29.660
Rubio though said that the U.S.

02:00:29.660 --> 02:00:31.440
could achieve its goals in Iran

02:00:31.440 --> 02:00:33.540
without any ground troops.

02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:35.120
That came after the U.S.

02:00:35.180 --> 02:00:36.760
delayed a threat to attack Iran's

02:00:36.760 --> 02:00:38.800
energy infrastructure to the 6th of April.

02:00:39.160 --> 02:00:40.580
The U.S. President said the deadline

02:00:40.580 --> 02:00:42.840
extension request came from Tehran.

02:00:43.240 --> 02:00:44.940
Donald Trump added that talks were going

02:00:44.940 --> 02:00:46.700
very well, but Iran's leadership

02:00:46.700 --> 02:00:49.040
says the peace proposal floated by Washington

02:00:49.040 --> 02:00:51.360
was excessive and unfair.

02:00:51.360 --> 02:00:53.680
Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city

02:00:53.680 --> 02:00:55.340
of Van near the Iran border.

02:00:55.720 --> 02:00:57.500
Iran has not confirmed publicly

02:00:57.500 --> 02:00:59.600
that it is in direct negotiations

02:00:59.600 --> 02:01:01.140
with the United States

02:01:01.140 --> 02:01:02.900
but it's understood that back channel

02:01:02.900 --> 02:01:05.100
talks are being held between Washington

02:01:05.100 --> 02:01:06.800
and Tehran with various countries

02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:09.180
involved in conveying messages back and forth

02:01:09.180 --> 02:01:11.400
including Egypt, Pakistan and

02:01:11.400 --> 02:01:13.140
Turkey. According to reports

02:01:13.140 --> 02:01:14.960
in the Wall Street Journal, Donald Trump

02:01:14.960 --> 02:01:17.560
is considering sending another 10,000

02:01:17.560 --> 02:01:19.200
ground troops to the Middle East

02:01:19.200 --> 02:01:21.460
ahead of a possible incursion into Iran

02:01:21.460 --> 02:01:23.880
on top of the more than 3,000 soldiers

02:01:23.880 --> 02:01:25.500
already on their way to the Gulf.

02:01:25.900 --> 02:01:27.260
A report from the OECD

02:01:27.260 --> 02:01:29.360
predicts the UK economy will be hit

02:01:29.360 --> 02:01:31.800
harder than any other industrialized nation

02:01:31.800 --> 02:01:33.840
due to the conflict in the Middle East

02:01:33.840 --> 02:01:35.680
with inflation expected to spike

02:01:35.680 --> 02:01:37.220
and the jobs market weaken.

02:01:38.000 --> 02:01:39.540
Stuart Smith has more from London.

02:01:39.980 --> 02:01:41.620
Goods and services are likely to get

02:01:41.620 --> 02:01:43.780
much more expensive, much more quickly

02:01:43.780 --> 02:01:45.880
as the U.S. and Israeli war with Iran

02:01:45.880 --> 02:01:47.780
drags on and the United Kingdom

02:01:47.780 --> 02:01:49.620
is going to be particularly hard hit

02:01:49.620 --> 02:01:51.460
according to the OECD's analysis.

02:01:52.020 --> 02:01:53.560
Inflation was predicted to be

02:01:53.560 --> 02:01:55.860
2.5% this year but is now

02:01:55.860 --> 02:01:57.620
forecast to be 4%.

02:01:57.620 --> 02:01:59.760
That will impact UK growth more than

02:01:59.760 --> 02:02:01.700
similar nations like Italy, France

02:02:01.700 --> 02:02:03.500
and Germany who analysts say

02:02:03.500 --> 02:02:05.260
are less exposed to energy shocks.

02:02:05.660 --> 02:02:08.000
For London that means a predicted 40%

02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:09.700
decrease in annual growth

02:02:09.700 --> 02:02:11.240
this year, even if

02:02:11.240 --> 02:02:13.540
oil and commodity prices stabilised by

02:02:13.540 --> 02:02:15.340
summer. The think tank claims

02:02:15.340 --> 02:02:17.280
efforts to increase domestic energy

02:02:17.280 --> 02:02:19.360
use and rely less on imported fuels

02:02:19.360 --> 02:02:21.140
should help. The UK government

02:02:21.140 --> 02:02:23.340
says it's already doing that but opposition

02:02:23.340 --> 02:02:25.440
parties claim the disproportionate

02:02:25.440 --> 02:02:27.500
impact of the war on the British economy

02:02:27.500 --> 02:02:29.360
is evidence that the government's

02:02:29.360 --> 02:02:30.440
policies aren't working.

02:02:30.900 --> 02:02:32.800
The International Olympic Committee this week

02:02:32.800 --> 02:02:34.620
banned transgender women from Olympic

02:02:34.620 --> 02:02:36.540
competition, saying the new policy

02:02:36.540 --> 02:02:38.540
promotes fairness. The eligibility

02:02:38.540 --> 02:02:40.660
change comes after U.S. President

02:02:40.660 --> 02:02:42.580
Donald Trump signed an executive order

02:02:42.580 --> 02:02:44.440
last year banning transgender

02:02:44.440 --> 02:02:46.460
girls and women from competing in

02:02:46.460 --> 02:02:48.180
female sports ahead of the

02:02:48.180 --> 02:02:50.340
2028 Los Angeles summer games.

02:02:50.680 --> 02:02:52.600
Tony Waterman reports. Under the

02:02:52.600 --> 02:02:54.440
new policy, only biological

02:02:54.440 --> 02:02:56.460
females will be allowed to compete in

02:02:56.460 --> 02:02:58.580
the Olympics starting in 2028.

02:02:59.040 --> 02:03:00.520
Their sex will be determined

02:03:00.520 --> 02:03:02.720
by a mandatory one-time

02:03:02.720 --> 02:03:04.520
genetic test. IOC

02:03:04.520 --> 02:03:06.220
president, Kirstie Coventry

02:03:06.220 --> 02:03:08.520
said the decision was based on science

02:03:08.520 --> 02:03:10.440
which she says shows males

02:03:10.440 --> 02:03:12.600
have a performance advantage in sports

02:03:12.600 --> 02:03:14.600
that rely on strength, power

02:03:14.600 --> 02:03:15.420
and endurance.

02:03:16.280 --> 02:03:18.220
At the Olympic Games, even the smallest

02:03:18.220 --> 02:03:20.260
margins can be the difference between

02:03:20.260 --> 02:03:22.120
victory and defeat. So it's

02:03:22.120 --> 02:03:24.200
absolutely clear that it would not

02:03:24.200 --> 02:03:26.360
be fair for biological males to compete

02:03:26.360 --> 02:03:28.440
in the female category. It's unclear

02:03:28.440 --> 02:03:30.340
how many, if any

02:03:30.340 --> 02:03:31.980
athletes may be impacted.

02:03:32.400 --> 02:03:34.420
The IOC says these individuals

02:03:34.420 --> 02:03:36.220
would still be eligible to compete

02:03:36.220 --> 02:03:38.460
in the male competitions. And finally

02:03:38.460 --> 02:03:40.220
there was some good news this week and

02:03:40.220 --> 02:03:42.300
endangered mountain gorilla has given

02:03:42.300 --> 02:03:44.180
birth to twins in the east of the

02:03:44.180 --> 02:03:45.640
Democratic Republic of the Congo.

02:03:46.480 --> 02:03:48.340
Conservationists say twin births are

02:03:48.340 --> 02:03:50.000
very rare in mountain gorillas.

02:03:50.480 --> 02:03:52.620
Chris Ottingeringa has more from Kinshasa.

02:03:53.040 --> 02:03:54.440
Park Rangers at the

02:03:54.440 --> 02:03:56.700
Virunga National Park found a gorilla

02:03:56.700 --> 02:03:58.460
nesting twins deep in the

02:03:58.460 --> 02:04:00.320
dense rainforest in the east of the

02:04:00.320 --> 02:04:02.100
Democratic Republic of Congo.

02:04:02.380 --> 02:04:04.560
The female gorilla from the Baraka family

02:04:04.560 --> 02:04:06.720
delivered a female and a male baby.

02:04:06.720 --> 02:04:09.400
Experts say twins are extremely rare

02:04:09.400 --> 02:04:11.160
in mountain gorillas, accounting

02:04:11.160 --> 02:04:12.780
for less than one percent of

02:04:12.780 --> 02:04:14.800
births. Park Rangers are monitoring

02:04:14.800 --> 02:04:16.640
them to ensure they grow into

02:04:16.640 --> 02:04:18.780
adults. The Virunga National Park

02:04:18.780 --> 02:04:20.740
is a very dangerous place for wild

02:04:20.740 --> 02:04:22.600
animals and park rangers because

02:04:22.600 --> 02:04:24.700
many rebels and poachers operate

02:04:24.700 --> 02:04:26.980
in the area. The twins birth comes

02:04:26.980 --> 02:04:28.740
two months after another gorilla

02:04:28.740 --> 02:04:29.700
delivered twins.

02:04:36.720 --> 02:04:38.600
According to a study released Thursday

02:04:38.600 --> 02:04:40.440
by the Princeton University Department of

02:04:40.440 --> 02:04:42.600
Biology, this local two-year-old Woodland

02:04:42.600 --> 02:04:44.560
chipmunk has crafted a far more secure

02:04:44.560 --> 02:04:46.340
and dependable plan for the future than

02:04:46.340 --> 02:04:47.700
8 out of 10 Americans.

02:04:48.120 --> 02:04:50.060
Reporters spoke to citizens to get their view

02:04:50.060 --> 02:04:51.940
on the study. Clearly this chipmunk is pretty

02:04:51.940 --> 02:04:53.640
impressive. I mean he wakes up every morning

02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:55.320
and says I need to collect acorns and

02:04:55.320 --> 02:04:57.320
berries for the winter. He sets goals for

02:04:57.320 --> 02:04:59.060
himself and he gets it done. He has to

02:04:59.060 --> 02:05:00.920
make a burrow in a tree stump. That's

02:05:00.920 --> 02:05:02.560
exactly what he does. He doesn't

02:05:02.560 --> 02:05:04.600
pause and have a snack and lay around

02:05:04.600 --> 02:05:06.620
for a few hours. Out of nearly 40 separate

02:05:06.620 --> 02:05:08.600
interviews with Americans, 33 told

02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:10.380
reporters they were very impressed by the

02:05:10.380 --> 02:05:12.200
chipmunks continued display of foresight,

02:05:12.380 --> 02:05:13.960
personal responsibility and pragmatic

02:05:13.960 --> 02:05:16.340
decision-making when considering his own future.

02:05:16.540 --> 02:05:18.360
He's preparing for winter. He's building

02:05:18.360 --> 02:05:20.480
a home and he's trying to get enough nutrients

02:05:20.480 --> 02:05:21.960
to make it throughout the rest of the day.

02:05:22.260 --> 02:05:23.800
All this while being worried about

02:05:24.380 --> 02:05:26.660
maybe getting eaten by a wolf for an owl

02:05:26.660 --> 02:05:28.280
or something. Earlier this week the

02:05:28.280 --> 02:05:30.080
electricity went out from my home because I forgot

02:05:30.080 --> 02:05:32.520
to pay my bill. It's the second

02:05:32.520 --> 02:05:33.120
time this year.

02:05:33.840 --> 02:05:35.960
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Hey, I've got to pay a few bills too

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if you guys would entertain me

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for just a moment.

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For those of you who have cryptocurrency

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currently, you have cryptocurrency

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and you want to access

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the value in that cryptocurrency

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without selling it.

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There's a platform that you need

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to know about. It's called SALT.

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And SALT

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allows you to take a loan

02:07:10.500 --> 02:07:11.740
against your cryptocurrency

02:07:13.000 --> 02:07:14.140
and, you know,

02:07:14.220 --> 02:07:16.220
it's like any other loan. You pay a little bit of interest

02:07:16.220 --> 02:07:17.780
but it's tax-free, right?

02:07:18.240 --> 02:07:20.200
You pay interest instead of

02:07:20.200 --> 02:07:21.780
paying money to the federal government

02:07:21.780 --> 02:07:23.780
because if you sell it, it's a capital gain

02:07:24.720 --> 02:07:26.480
and you have to pay tax on that.

02:07:26.860 --> 02:07:28.680
If you take a loan against it

02:07:28.680 --> 02:07:30.220
it's a lower rate than

02:07:30.220 --> 02:07:31.980
the tax anyway and

02:07:31.980 --> 02:07:34.400
you don't have to take, you don't have to

02:07:34.400 --> 02:07:35.660
pay tax on it.

02:07:35.660 --> 02:07:37.340
So, I think it's a great option.

02:07:37.680 --> 02:07:39.460
If you're interested in

02:07:39.460 --> 02:07:41.380
accessing the value of your cryptocurrency

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that you currently hold now

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contact me at

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saltatmarkedge.org

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That's an email address.

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saltatmarkedge.org

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and I'll walk you through the process.

02:07:53.760 --> 02:07:54.440
Further,

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if you do me a favor

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and go to your Twitter account

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and like at markedge

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show

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and Sally

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at Sally Mayweather

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then you can see me do another

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show on Wednesday nights.

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Sounds good. Nice.

02:08:12.760 --> 02:08:14.260
So, before we go on

02:08:14.260 --> 02:08:16.540
we were talking about religion in the last segment

02:08:16.540 --> 02:08:18.580
and I want to bring up that it is Palm Sunday

02:08:18.580 --> 02:08:20.100
today in the western

02:08:20.100 --> 02:08:22.120
Christian calendar at least

02:08:22.120 --> 02:08:23.900
and this marks

02:08:23.900 --> 02:08:25.240
in their minds the

02:08:26.020 --> 02:08:27.580
last week of Jesus's life

02:08:27.580 --> 02:08:29.920
and traditionally

02:08:29.920 --> 02:08:31.820
they say that this is the day that Jesus

02:08:31.820 --> 02:08:33.960
came into Jerusalem writing on a donkey

02:08:34.560 --> 02:08:35.680
where people were

02:08:35.680 --> 02:08:38.340
putting their palm fronds and waving their palm fronds

02:08:38.340 --> 02:08:40.120
and putting down their coats in front of the donkey

02:08:40.120 --> 02:08:41.540
as he entered Jerusalem.

02:08:42.860 --> 02:08:43.420
So.

02:08:43.980 --> 02:08:45.860
There you go. It's Palm Sunday.

02:08:48.460 --> 02:08:50.000
Happy Palm Sunday to

02:08:50.000 --> 02:08:51.820
those who celebrate. Exactly.

02:08:52.840 --> 02:08:53.280
Indeed.

02:08:54.240 --> 02:08:55.340
Alright, so

02:08:55.840 --> 02:08:57.860
things that Americans agree upon

02:08:59.300 --> 02:08:59.820
we've

02:08:59.820 --> 02:09:01.140
been through quite a list here

02:09:01.980 --> 02:09:03.060
at this point

02:09:04.440 --> 02:09:05.480
illegal immigration

02:09:05.480 --> 02:09:06.920
is a problem

02:09:07.720 --> 02:09:09.580
a solid 61%

02:09:09.580 --> 02:09:12.120
believe that illegal immigration is a problem in the United States

02:09:12.120 --> 02:09:13.660
furthermore 59%

02:09:13.660 --> 02:09:15.500
of Americans see the solution

02:09:15.500 --> 02:09:16.960
at the border

02:09:16.960 --> 02:09:20.040
see the situation excuse me at the border as a crisis.

02:09:20.680 --> 02:09:21.720
So, apparently

02:09:21.720 --> 02:09:23.860
2% of people do not think it's a crisis

02:09:23.860 --> 02:09:25.860
but do think that it's a problem

02:09:25.860 --> 02:09:26.680
what

02:09:28.560 --> 02:09:29.700
and you know

02:09:30.340 --> 02:09:32.120
what are the solutions I don't know

02:09:32.120 --> 02:09:33.980
the politicians sure haven't given us any

02:09:33.980 --> 02:09:36.060
in this amount of time and I think it's because

02:09:36.060 --> 02:09:36.920
they all benefit

02:09:37.480 --> 02:09:39.920
right the Democrats want people

02:09:39.920 --> 02:09:41.720
to become here and be

02:09:41.720 --> 02:09:43.920
subjugated so that they feel like

02:09:43.920 --> 02:09:45.800
you know they should be part of the Democratic Party

02:09:45.800 --> 02:09:47.980
because that's the party of the subjugated people

02:09:48.700 --> 02:09:49.920
and the Republicans

02:09:49.920 --> 02:09:51.820
want to keep these folks illegal

02:09:52.760 --> 02:09:55.040
because that's what their big donors want

02:09:55.040 --> 02:09:56.600
because they're these big corporations

02:09:56.600 --> 02:09:59.120
that sort of feed off this slave

02:09:59.120 --> 02:10:00.000
labor market

02:10:00.720 --> 02:10:02.600
oh but Mark people are gonna

02:10:02.600 --> 02:10:04.340
people on the right are gonna argue though

02:10:04.340 --> 02:10:06.780
Trump's deporting a ton of illegals already

02:10:08.560 --> 02:10:09.080
well

02:10:09.080 --> 02:10:10.960
I sure he's deporting

02:10:10.960 --> 02:10:12.860
some but I mean you can't like how are you

02:10:12.860 --> 02:10:15.020
gonna deport the millions that's not a solution

02:10:15.020 --> 02:10:17.020
that's just talking points and don't

02:10:17.020 --> 02:10:19.020
forget that ISIS slowed down ever since

02:10:19.020 --> 02:10:20.240
they shot a couple of people

02:10:20.940 --> 02:10:22.940
that obviously for no good reason

02:10:22.940 --> 02:10:25.340
um you know that's it's

02:10:25.340 --> 02:10:27.140
it's just not a winning solution

02:10:27.140 --> 02:10:29.820
you can't have a border crack down

02:10:30.400 --> 02:10:30.920
without

02:10:30.920 --> 02:10:32.180
a police state

02:10:33.080 --> 02:10:35.140
you know you might put more people on the border

02:10:35.140 --> 02:10:36.440
I get it you know play

02:10:36.440 --> 02:10:38.260
you know play uh

02:10:38.800 --> 02:10:40.800
I don't know red rover with the

02:10:40.800 --> 02:10:43.040
immigrants to the border fine and dandy

02:10:43.040 --> 02:10:44.580
whatever but

02:10:44.580 --> 02:10:46.380
you really can't stop

02:10:47.360 --> 02:10:49.060
the you know what are you gonna do

02:10:49.060 --> 02:10:50.160
about the people that are here

02:10:50.160 --> 02:10:52.540
there's not a really good solution for that

02:10:52.540 --> 02:10:54.280
you know as AI gets worse

02:10:54.280 --> 02:10:56.120
and the uh the big brother

02:10:56.120 --> 02:10:58.160
gets more intrusive I think it'll be easier

02:10:58.160 --> 02:10:59.580
to find illegals but

02:11:00.520 --> 02:11:02.200
you know just going around and asking

02:11:02.200 --> 02:11:04.440
people questions that's a bad system

02:11:05.220 --> 02:11:06.160
and it just

02:11:06.160 --> 02:11:08.240
gives the democrats more to vote for

02:11:11.000 --> 02:11:12.240
yeah I agree

02:11:12.880 --> 02:11:13.440
yeah

02:11:14.660 --> 02:11:15.780
so um

02:11:15.780 --> 02:11:18.140
now I would take I will take

02:11:18.140 --> 02:11:20.580
the hoppian uh stance on this

02:11:20.580 --> 02:11:22.480
which is I believe

02:11:22.480 --> 02:11:24.160
that the united states

02:11:24.160 --> 02:11:26.400
government owns all the land

02:11:26.400 --> 02:11:27.780
called the united states

02:11:27.780 --> 02:11:29.720
even if you own your land

02:11:29.720 --> 02:11:31.200
you just

02:11:32.200 --> 02:11:34.440
you're just a long term lessor

02:11:34.440 --> 02:11:36.560
with the right of survivorship

02:11:36.560 --> 02:11:38.420
that if you pay

02:11:38.420 --> 02:11:40.060
tax on your land and I don't know

02:11:40.060 --> 02:11:41.940
anybody inside the you know

02:11:41.940 --> 02:11:44.220
48 contiguous states who does not

02:11:44.220 --> 02:11:46.100
if you pay tax

02:11:46.100 --> 02:11:48.700
on your land to whom are you paying it

02:11:48.700 --> 02:11:50.200
and why are you paying

02:11:50.200 --> 02:11:50.960
it if you own it

02:11:51.460 --> 02:11:53.580
because I own some things and I do not pay

02:11:53.580 --> 02:11:55.720
tax on those things I may have paid

02:11:55.720 --> 02:11:57.280
a tax when I bought it

02:11:57.280 --> 02:11:59.300
but I don't have to pay to keep it

02:11:59.300 --> 02:12:02.060
that sounds much more like a rental agreement

02:12:02.060 --> 02:12:02.940
that it does

02:12:02.940 --> 02:12:04.620
like an ownership agreement

02:12:04.620 --> 02:12:06.680
so I would contend

02:12:07.520 --> 02:12:09.040
that the united states government

02:12:09.040 --> 02:12:11.600
by proxy um of all these

02:12:11.600 --> 02:12:13.480
you know states and counties and whatever

02:12:13.480 --> 02:12:15.180
owns the government

02:12:15.180 --> 02:12:17.460
and therefore at the very least

02:12:17.460 --> 02:12:19.520
I would contend that your state owns

02:12:19.520 --> 02:12:20.100
your property

02:12:21.280 --> 02:12:23.640
and therefore they are the ones

02:12:23.640 --> 02:12:25.600
who can come up with the immigration

02:12:25.600 --> 02:12:27.220
policy and that you

02:12:27.220 --> 02:12:29.660
are voluntary surf on their land

02:12:30.400 --> 02:12:31.600
that's about right

02:12:31.600 --> 02:12:32.920
if you want

02:12:33.280 --> 02:12:35.420
to be not a voluntary surf

02:12:35.420 --> 02:12:37.620
then you need to pick another location

02:12:37.620 --> 02:12:39.440
and I can

02:12:39.440 --> 02:12:40.900
tell you about those locations

02:12:41.560 --> 02:12:42.200
but

02:12:42.200 --> 02:12:44.900
I would contend the vast majority of people

02:12:44.900 --> 02:12:46.940
listening to me are better off

02:12:46.940 --> 02:12:49.240
just understanding that you're a voluntary

02:12:49.240 --> 02:12:49.880
surf

02:12:49.880 --> 02:12:52.680
rather than just give it up

02:12:52.680 --> 02:12:54.620
this isn't a government by the people

02:12:54.620 --> 02:12:56.120
of the people for the people

02:12:56.120 --> 02:12:57.860
it's none of those things

02:12:59.040 --> 02:13:00.080
you're just

02:13:00.080 --> 02:13:02.360
the modern version of a subject

02:13:02.840 --> 02:13:04.540
right the king changed

02:13:04.540 --> 02:13:06.080
from one

02:13:06.680 --> 02:13:07.200
leader

02:13:07.200 --> 02:13:09.340
5000 miles away to 5000

02:13:09.340 --> 02:13:10.620
one mile away

02:13:11.300 --> 02:13:13.180
but the power didn't

02:13:13.720 --> 02:13:15.320
the power is still there

02:13:15.860 --> 02:13:18.140
you're still a surf on the land

02:13:18.140 --> 02:13:19.420
and you still have to pay your

02:13:19.420 --> 02:13:21.740
your bushel of wheat

02:13:21.740 --> 02:13:23.780
or whatever it is that you've got to give up

02:13:24.820 --> 02:13:26.200
and you've got to produce it

02:13:26.200 --> 02:13:27.120
and you've got to make it

02:13:27.120 --> 02:13:28.400
so there it is

02:13:28.400 --> 02:13:30.680
that's I believe really the solution

02:13:32.020 --> 02:13:33.740
and do I like it

02:13:33.740 --> 02:13:34.360
no

02:13:34.360 --> 02:13:37.480
I think this country was made great

02:13:37.480 --> 02:13:38.340
by immigrants

02:13:38.340 --> 02:13:40.640
and I think we'd be better off

02:13:40.640 --> 02:13:43.720
if we would simply come up with an immigration policy

02:13:43.720 --> 02:13:45.220
that would steal

02:13:45.740 --> 02:13:46.940
all the good

02:13:46.940 --> 02:13:49.880
people of all the other countries away from them

02:13:49.880 --> 02:13:51.040
and leave them

02:13:51.040 --> 02:13:53.840
with the criminals and the rapists

02:13:53.840 --> 02:13:55.460
and the evil people

02:13:55.460 --> 02:13:56.280
yeah

02:13:56.280 --> 02:13:58.660
seems like it should be doable too

02:13:59.480 --> 02:14:00.360
it's so easy

02:14:00.360 --> 02:14:01.960
it'd be absolutely easy

02:14:01.960 --> 02:14:04.320
hey score 138

02:14:04.320 --> 02:14:05.680
on one of our IQ tests

02:14:05.680 --> 02:14:08.380
that we administer in your country

02:14:08.380 --> 02:14:09.480
at our embassy

02:14:10.240 --> 02:14:11.280
and we'll let you come in

02:14:11.280 --> 02:14:13.960
or pay us

02:14:13.960 --> 02:14:14.880
$100,000

02:14:15.560 --> 02:14:17.280
and we'll let you have a citizenship

02:14:17.280 --> 02:14:18.880
but you have to denounce your old one

02:14:18.880 --> 02:14:20.020
or whatever it is

02:14:20.020 --> 02:14:23.240
these are just things that are coming off the top of my head

02:14:23.240 --> 02:14:24.280
and bringing this up

02:14:24.280 --> 02:14:26.720
and I'm sure that brighter minds

02:14:26.720 --> 02:14:28.420
can come up with better systems

02:14:28.420 --> 02:14:29.240
than even this

02:14:29.240 --> 02:14:31.860
but it's absolutely ludicrous

02:14:31.860 --> 02:14:34.560
the United States sends people away

02:14:34.560 --> 02:14:36.260
that would work hard

02:14:36.260 --> 02:14:37.180
and pay taxes

02:14:37.180 --> 02:14:39.020
and brings people in

02:14:39.020 --> 02:14:41.540
that want to get paid to be here

02:14:41.540 --> 02:14:43.220
that's right they deport the roofer

02:14:43.220 --> 02:14:45.220
and they bring in the welfare recipient

02:14:45.220 --> 02:14:46.900
well the right always says

02:14:46.900 --> 02:14:49.280
I love immigration

02:14:49.280 --> 02:14:51.080
but I just want them to come here legally

02:14:52.320 --> 02:14:53.460
sure and if

02:14:53.460 --> 02:14:55.240
you know if it's easier to swim

02:14:55.240 --> 02:14:56.260
the Rio Grande

02:14:56.260 --> 02:14:58.740
than it is to climb the mountain

02:14:58.740 --> 02:14:59.940
of bureaucracy

02:14:59.940 --> 02:15:01.800
anybody who says that

02:15:01.800 --> 02:15:04.760
has never experienced what it's like

02:15:04.760 --> 02:15:06.160
to try to get into this country

02:15:06.160 --> 02:15:09.880
and it gets more and more difficult every year

02:15:09.880 --> 02:15:11.580
I'm dealing with it right now

02:15:12.160 --> 02:15:14.120
I don't even like a little bit of paperwork

02:15:14.120 --> 02:15:15.620
I bet that's a whole lot of paperwork

02:15:16.180 --> 02:15:17.580
and a whole lot of lawyer fees

02:15:17.580 --> 02:15:18.140
I imagine

02:15:18.140 --> 02:15:20.740
that's what it really comes down to right

02:15:20.740 --> 02:15:23.140
well somebody else

02:15:23.140 --> 02:15:25.040
who's got an opinion on immigration

02:15:25.040 --> 02:15:26.840
I'm sure is David in New Mexico

02:15:26.840 --> 02:15:28.420
so we'll go to the phones David

02:15:28.420 --> 02:15:30.740
you're on free talk live what's on your mind

02:15:31.440 --> 02:15:32.880
thanks for that segue Mark

02:15:32.880 --> 02:15:34.760
swim the Rio Grande in fact I was down

02:15:34.760 --> 02:15:35.980
swimming the Rio Grande

02:15:35.980 --> 02:15:38.680
getting my back wet a couple summers ago

02:15:38.680 --> 02:15:40.940
on a good American holiday

02:15:40.940 --> 02:15:41.980
Labor Day

02:15:42.700 --> 02:15:44.580
and when I came back to my truck

02:15:44.580 --> 02:15:47.080
after wetting my back

02:15:47.080 --> 02:15:48.160
in the Rio Grande

02:15:48.160 --> 02:15:48.200
and

02:15:49.900 --> 02:15:50.980
some illegals

02:15:50.980 --> 02:15:53.300
a whole SUV full of six illegals

02:15:53.300 --> 02:15:55.480
were driving off and my battery

02:15:55.480 --> 02:15:57.340
was missing out of my truck

02:15:57.340 --> 02:15:58.700
oh they like batteries

02:15:58.700 --> 02:15:59.700
yeah

02:16:01.360 --> 02:16:04.020
so thank you illegal immigration

02:16:04.020 --> 02:16:06.020
okay and the illegals

02:16:06.020 --> 02:16:07.340
that live next door to me

02:16:07.340 --> 02:16:09.020
I've had to call the cops on them

02:16:09.020 --> 02:16:11.300
like I don't know literally a hundred times

02:16:11.300 --> 02:16:13.200
in the two years that they've been here

02:16:13.200 --> 02:16:15.740
because they don't behave like what you do

02:16:15.740 --> 02:16:17.640
so now I don't totally disagree

02:16:17.640 --> 02:16:19.660
with you Mark I agree with you

02:16:19.660 --> 02:16:21.600
and I disagree with you

02:16:21.600 --> 02:16:23.120
in probably equal parts

02:16:23.740 --> 02:16:24.020
and

02:16:26.020 --> 02:16:27.680
so rather than me just

02:16:27.680 --> 02:16:29.580
shot gunning it let me ask

02:16:29.580 --> 02:16:31.840
you Mark if you would please pick one of the points

02:16:31.840 --> 02:16:33.600
that you just laid out and I can

02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:35.460
I would like to speak to whatever point

02:16:35.460 --> 02:16:36.260
that you choose

02:16:37.460 --> 02:16:39.580
I think that the United States should

02:16:39.580 --> 02:16:40.680
have some system

02:16:40.680 --> 02:16:43.500
be it IQ test or

02:16:43.500 --> 02:16:45.400
you know military

02:16:45.400 --> 02:16:47.440
service or money

02:16:47.440 --> 02:16:48.740
whatever

02:16:48.740 --> 02:16:51.000
in order to allow people to

02:16:51.350 --> 02:16:52.400
jump the line

02:16:53.390 --> 02:16:54.380
in immigration

02:16:55.370 --> 02:16:57.020
I agree with you Mark I think that's a

02:16:57.020 --> 02:16:59.120
great idea because I

02:16:59.120 --> 02:17:01.120
love it that you are

02:17:01.120 --> 02:17:03.140
very warfare oriented

02:17:03.140 --> 02:17:04.740
because that is

02:17:04.740 --> 02:17:07.780
the same warfare techniques

02:17:07.780 --> 02:17:09.280
that for instance the Chinese are using

02:17:09.280 --> 02:17:10.920
against you right now or against not

02:17:10.920 --> 02:17:12.520
we'll leave Mark out of it

02:17:12.520 --> 02:17:13.720
because he'll deny that he's part of it

02:17:13.720 --> 02:17:14.620
against me

02:17:14.620 --> 02:17:17.640
and I would allege the rest of our nation

02:17:17.640 --> 02:17:18.680
and the rest of the world

02:17:19.220 --> 02:17:22.000
there's a phrase for that type of warfare

02:17:22.940 --> 02:17:23.900
unrestricted warfare

02:17:23.900 --> 02:17:25.760
the Chinese generals wrote a book on it

02:17:25.760 --> 02:17:28.100
and that's one of the things that's a good

02:17:28.100 --> 02:17:29.740
modern warfare tactic

02:17:30.600 --> 02:17:32.680
aside from prior to

02:17:32.680 --> 02:17:34.220
in addition or before

02:17:34.880 --> 02:17:36.740
labeling it as unrestricted warfare

02:17:36.740 --> 02:17:38.300
it was also a good

02:17:38.300 --> 02:17:39.820
you know social policy

02:17:39.820 --> 02:17:41.180
and a good business policy

02:17:41.180 --> 02:17:43.560
to recruit

02:17:44.240 --> 02:17:46.200
the best and the brightest

02:17:46.200 --> 02:17:48.220
from wherever you can get them

02:17:48.220 --> 02:17:50.580
and then the warfare part of it

02:17:50.580 --> 02:17:52.620
is that you're denying the use

02:17:52.620 --> 02:17:54.240
of those brains and brawn

02:17:54.240 --> 02:17:55.540
from your enemies

02:17:55.540 --> 02:17:56.900
which is everybody else

02:17:56.900 --> 02:17:59.000
especially the ones that aren't white you know

02:17:59.000 --> 02:18:01.460
I threw that in there for effect

02:18:02.080 --> 02:18:03.760
I'm not sure where the Chinese

02:18:04.160 --> 02:18:06.560
comes with the Chinese I need a little help here

02:18:06.560 --> 02:18:07.900
there is a

02:18:07.900 --> 02:18:09.760
there is a book and I'm sure that

02:18:09.760 --> 02:18:11.580
is this the three body problem

02:18:12.660 --> 02:18:14.620
pardon the three body problem

02:18:14.620 --> 02:18:16.120
I don't know

02:18:16.120 --> 02:18:18.040
Stu probably knows that I'm talking about

02:18:18.040 --> 02:18:20.380
if he does he's welcome to interject or and or Riley

02:18:20.380 --> 02:18:22.260
there was a book an actual book

02:18:22.260 --> 02:18:23.940
or paper or a treatise or whatever

02:18:23.940 --> 02:18:25.420
that was written by

02:18:25.420 --> 02:18:27.180
I believe it's three

02:18:27.180 --> 02:18:29.220
high ranking Chinese generals

02:18:29.220 --> 02:18:31.120
on unrestricted warfare

02:18:31.120 --> 02:18:33.880
and that we're experiencing right now

02:18:33.880 --> 02:18:35.920
it's in full effect against us

02:18:35.920 --> 02:18:37.440
China against

02:18:37.440 --> 02:18:40.340
the whole world but especially the United States

02:18:40.340 --> 02:18:42.560
Stu I don't want to just come out and ask

02:18:42.560 --> 02:18:44.500
Stu Riley do you know what I'm talking about

02:18:44.500 --> 02:18:46.560
I have no idea what you're talking about honestly

02:18:46.560 --> 02:18:48.260
sorry there's a book called

02:18:48.260 --> 02:18:50.180
unrestricted warfare is an influential

02:18:50.180 --> 02:18:51.880
military strategy book

02:18:51.880 --> 02:18:53.320
by PLA colonels

02:18:53.720 --> 02:18:56.400
Kwai Ling and Wang Zhang Shu

02:18:56.400 --> 02:18:57.780
focusing on defeating

02:18:57.780 --> 02:18:59.600
technologically superior opponents

02:19:00.280 --> 02:19:01.700
yeah it's okay sorry

02:19:01.700 --> 02:19:03.080
non-traditional means

02:19:04.960 --> 02:19:06.360
economic, cyber, legal

02:19:06.360 --> 02:19:06.920
and terror

02:19:07.600 --> 02:19:08.460
there you go

02:19:09.620 --> 02:19:10.660
so all of that

02:19:10.660 --> 02:19:12.540
that's exactly what we're talking about

02:19:13.680 --> 02:19:16.000
it's good to bring in smart people

02:19:16.000 --> 02:19:17.380
because we will be

02:19:17.380 --> 02:19:20.080
we will use them in a terror war against China

02:19:20.780 --> 02:19:21.560
I need help

02:19:21.560 --> 02:19:23.220
I'm being sarcastic

02:19:23.220 --> 02:19:25.440
but actually

02:19:26.220 --> 02:19:28.400
it's bad to bring in intelligent people

02:19:28.400 --> 02:19:30.720
because they will be used against us

02:19:31.420 --> 02:19:32.780
it's good and bad

02:19:32.780 --> 02:19:34.660
it's good and bad the bottom line

02:19:34.660 --> 02:19:36.580
is the good outweighs the bad

02:19:36.580 --> 02:19:38.160
because this addresses

02:19:38.160 --> 02:19:40.480
and what I'm about to say

02:19:40.480 --> 02:19:42.700
in addressing that point how it's

02:19:42.700 --> 02:19:44.760
good and bad and that the good outweighs

02:19:44.760 --> 02:19:46.640
the bad also addresses another point

02:19:46.640 --> 02:19:48.260
that you made earlier on this

02:19:48.260 --> 02:19:50.840
subject and you'll see what it is here in a moment

02:19:51.460 --> 02:19:52.960
and that's how to filter them out

02:19:52.960 --> 02:19:54.780
so bring in the best

02:19:54.780 --> 02:19:56.840
and the brightest and yes when you bring them in

02:19:56.840 --> 02:19:58.580
oh and by the way when I was in college

02:19:58.580 --> 02:20:00.780
I lived in a rooming house that had 20 rooms

02:20:00.780 --> 02:20:02.580
and 12 of them were

02:20:02.580 --> 02:20:05.160
occupied by Chinese spies

02:20:05.160 --> 02:20:07.180
they were all graduate students

02:20:07.180 --> 02:20:08.580
and so

02:20:08.580 --> 02:20:11.020
but what you do is you bring in

02:20:11.020 --> 02:20:12.320
the best and the brightest and yes

02:20:12.320 --> 02:20:13.940
China will sneak in their spies

02:20:13.940 --> 02:20:15.200
because they're all spies

02:20:16.240 --> 02:20:17.820
but then you need to do

02:20:17.820 --> 02:20:19.940
you have to have filtering process in place

02:20:19.940 --> 02:20:22.680
and there's nothing wrong with papers please

02:20:22.680 --> 02:20:24.620
because if you are a society

02:20:24.620 --> 02:20:26.120
without papers please

02:20:26.120 --> 02:20:28.020
you will become the American Indian

02:20:29.840 --> 02:20:31.900
so where would the paper please

02:20:31.900 --> 02:20:33.500
acceptable so like somebody

02:20:33.900 --> 02:20:36.360
standing around saying you need to have

02:20:36.360 --> 02:20:37.880
well for instance right there

02:20:37.880 --> 02:20:40.060
on interstate

02:20:40.060 --> 02:20:42.020
10 and interstate 40

02:20:42.020 --> 02:20:43.580
I think 40 goes

02:20:43.800 --> 02:20:44.680
near your house

02:20:45.940 --> 02:20:48.020
they have checkpoints

02:20:48.020 --> 02:20:49.540
where they will stop

02:20:50.000 --> 02:20:52.060
every car and ask you if you're a US

02:20:52.060 --> 02:20:53.840
citizen now it's easy

02:20:53.840 --> 02:20:55.360
to just you know be me

02:20:55.360 --> 02:20:57.960
and go through but I didn't do that

02:20:57.960 --> 02:20:59.840
I said am I being

02:20:59.840 --> 02:21:01.660
detained do you have

02:21:01.660 --> 02:21:03.820
reasonable articulable suspicion that I've

02:21:03.820 --> 02:21:05.940
committed a crime and kind of

02:21:05.940 --> 02:21:07.660
went through this little rigamarole with them

02:21:07.660 --> 02:21:08.700
you can find it on YouTube

02:21:08.700 --> 02:21:11.680
I'm not sure what it's under but I'm sure it's

02:21:11.680 --> 02:21:12.940
am I being detained

02:21:12.940 --> 02:21:15.380
is somewhere in there and

02:21:15.380 --> 02:21:17.340
it's um yeah

02:21:17.340 --> 02:21:19.560
I mean you know I don't like

02:21:19.560 --> 02:21:21.320
the idea personally of being

02:21:21.320 --> 02:21:23.700
detained without reasonable articulable suspicion

02:21:23.700 --> 02:21:25.240
because I consider it unconstitutional

02:21:25.940 --> 02:21:27.440
let me address what you just said

02:21:27.440 --> 02:21:28.900
I agree with you

02:21:28.900 --> 02:21:31.360
under normal circumstances but what you're

02:21:31.360 --> 02:21:33.280
not factoring in is that

02:21:33.280 --> 02:21:35.400
I mean some other

02:21:35.400 --> 02:21:37.460
people not you and me created this

02:21:37.460 --> 02:21:39.220
country and if they hadn't done that for us

02:21:39.220 --> 02:21:41.460
we wouldn't even be having this conversation but they did

02:21:41.460 --> 02:21:43.440
that and so we're having this conversation

02:21:43.440 --> 02:21:45.220
and when they created

02:21:45.220 --> 02:21:47.560
this country for us that we're in now

02:21:47.560 --> 02:21:49.380
instead of this being you know Britain

02:21:49.380 --> 02:21:51.620
or whatever it would be with a different set of rules

02:21:51.620 --> 02:21:53.320
they made some rules and

02:21:53.320 --> 02:21:55.340
part of the rules is pertaining to the

02:21:55.340 --> 02:21:57.320
border the rules are not

02:21:57.320 --> 02:21:59.460
the same as other than the border

02:21:59.460 --> 02:22:01.580
and the the rules about

02:22:01.580 --> 02:22:03.240
well this isn't at the border though

02:22:03.240 --> 02:22:04.660
40 doesn't go through the border

02:22:05.260 --> 02:22:07.260
40 is inside the country

02:22:07.260 --> 02:22:08.640
checkpoint so these are

02:22:08.640 --> 02:22:12.100
the border is not considered to be one line

02:22:12.100 --> 02:22:13.400
the border patrol

02:22:13.400 --> 02:22:15.200
has jurisdiction I believe to like

02:22:15.200 --> 02:22:17.680
100 miles inside of the border

02:22:18.580 --> 02:22:19.900
or 200 miles

02:22:19.900 --> 02:22:22.220
or 500 miles or yeah who knows

02:22:23.240 --> 02:22:24.000
I believe

02:22:24.000 --> 02:22:25.960
100 if they can arbitrarily say

02:22:25.960 --> 02:22:27.860
100 miles can't they arbitrarily

02:22:27.860 --> 02:22:28.540
say 1000

02:22:29.400 --> 02:22:31.120
well I don't think well they could but

02:22:31.120 --> 02:22:33.580
they didn't do it arbitrarily I'm

02:22:33.580 --> 02:22:35.480
certain and I can't fight it but I'm

02:22:35.480 --> 02:22:37.600
certain that if I did research it we

02:22:37.600 --> 02:22:40.100
could find the enabling legislation

02:22:40.100 --> 02:22:41.740
that non

02:22:42.320 --> 02:22:43.820
arbitrarily although I guess it's

02:22:43.820 --> 02:22:45.580
arbitrary if you got a bunch of humans sitting around

02:22:45.580 --> 02:22:47.180
deciding okay how many miles

02:22:47.180 --> 02:22:49.640
okay 100 you know on one

02:22:49.640 --> 02:22:51.280
hand it's arbitrary on the other hand

02:22:51.280 --> 02:22:53.440
there was some sort of logic

02:22:53.440 --> 02:22:55.600
reason deduction that went into them

02:22:55.600 --> 02:22:57.620
concluding that 100 miles is a

02:22:57.620 --> 02:22:59.620
reasonable number but they

02:22:59.620 --> 02:23:01.400
put it into law and they enabled

02:23:01.400 --> 02:23:03.400
they did the enabling legislation

02:23:03.400 --> 02:23:05.160
I'm sure and it probably

02:23:05.160 --> 02:23:07.560
I can see I'll concede that

02:23:07.560 --> 02:23:09.220
what I would further

02:23:09.220 --> 02:23:11.660
you know spar with you on

02:23:11.660 --> 02:23:13.600
this one is that the founders

02:23:13.600 --> 02:23:15.320
who did write that constitution

02:23:15.320 --> 02:23:17.380
didn't see fit

02:23:17.380 --> 02:23:19.420
to enable the federal

02:23:19.420 --> 02:23:21.620
government to handle immigration they

02:23:21.620 --> 02:23:23.880
only gave them naturalization

02:23:23.880 --> 02:23:25.780
and that left immigration

02:23:25.780 --> 02:23:27.400
to the states now

02:23:27.400 --> 02:23:29.640
unfortunately I think

02:23:29.640 --> 02:23:31.420
that very likely Arizona

02:23:31.420 --> 02:23:33.700
and Texas would be

02:23:33.700 --> 02:23:35.660
very strict with their borders but

02:23:35.660 --> 02:23:36.700
I don't think New Mexico

02:23:37.600 --> 02:23:39.460
you know that wrote its constitution

02:23:39.460 --> 02:23:41.520
both Spanish and English would be quite

02:23:41.520 --> 02:23:43.360
so draconian

02:23:43.960 --> 02:23:45.440
well I don't know that if you

02:23:45.440 --> 02:23:47.040
come here and you and you talk to

02:23:47.040 --> 02:23:48.900
New Mexican, New Mexican, New Mexican

02:23:48.900 --> 02:23:50.360
well actually they don't feel like that this Mexican

02:23:50.360 --> 02:23:52.980
but the New Mexicans here are not big fans

02:23:53.520 --> 02:23:55.400
of Mexicans

02:23:55.400 --> 02:23:57.440
per se especially when they come across the border

02:23:57.440 --> 02:23:59.040
illegal they don't consider themselves

02:23:59.540 --> 02:24:01.440
at all and you can find videos

02:24:01.440 --> 02:24:03.220
recorded in downtown Albuquerque

02:24:03.220 --> 02:24:05.360
of some Mexicans that were here

02:24:05.360 --> 02:24:07.800
doing off-road racing and some New Mexicans

02:24:07.800 --> 02:24:09.360
that were buddies with them

02:24:09.360 --> 02:24:10.460
doing some off-road racing

02:24:10.460 --> 02:24:13.220
consider themselves to be cousins but we're not the same people

02:24:13.220 --> 02:24:14.040
we're different people

02:24:14.700 --> 02:24:16.480
and so they don't consider it at all the same

02:24:16.480 --> 02:24:18.880
even though you know back before New Mexico

02:24:18.880 --> 02:24:20.480
became a U.S. territory

02:24:21.180 --> 02:24:23.660
or I'm sorry even after it became a territory

02:24:23.660 --> 02:24:25.340
the New Mexicans

02:24:25.340 --> 02:24:27.240
that were here after it became a territory

02:24:27.240 --> 02:24:29.480
were referred to as Mexicans

02:24:29.480 --> 02:24:30.740
if they were non-white

02:24:30.740 --> 02:24:33.260
because they were they used to be Mexicans so they're Mexicans

02:24:34.300 --> 02:24:34.780
but

02:24:35.140 --> 02:24:37.100
so nowadays the citizens

02:24:37.100 --> 02:24:39.480
I mean what percent of the citizens

02:24:39.480 --> 02:24:41.300
I don't know but a lot of

02:24:41.300 --> 02:24:43.160
you know slightly tanned

02:24:43.160 --> 02:24:45.100
Native New Mexicans

02:24:45.100 --> 02:24:46.740
whose families have been here for

02:24:46.740 --> 02:24:48.140
400 years

02:24:48.140 --> 02:24:50.640
going all the way back to the conquistadors

02:24:50.640 --> 02:24:52.960
they're not down with

02:24:52.960 --> 02:24:55.180
the Mexicans coming across

02:24:55.180 --> 02:24:56.780
illegally across the border for one thing

02:24:56.780 --> 02:24:59.420
they're also the ones that come across the border illegal

02:24:59.420 --> 02:25:00.500
are typically

02:25:00.860 --> 02:25:03.100
they're Indians they're American Indians

02:25:03.100 --> 02:25:05.020
and the New Mexicans

02:25:05.020 --> 02:25:06.960
that we're talking about are a mix of

02:25:06.960 --> 02:25:08.940
Spaniard and American Indian

02:25:08.940 --> 02:25:10.900
like 85-15 kind of thing

02:25:10.900 --> 02:25:12.900
and so I kind of went off a little bit

02:25:12.900 --> 02:25:14.900
so did that give you any insight as to

02:25:16.000 --> 02:25:16.720
New Mexico

02:25:16.720 --> 02:25:19.060
you know interestingly people who are

02:25:19.060 --> 02:25:21.240
Indian or First Nation as they call them in Canada

02:25:21.240 --> 02:25:22.980
can move across the U.S. Canadian

02:25:22.980 --> 02:25:25.220
border with no issues at all

02:25:25.220 --> 02:25:26.420
it's part of a treaty

02:25:26.980 --> 02:25:28.260
but people who are

02:25:29.000 --> 02:25:29.520
Indian

02:25:30.400 --> 02:25:33.020
sort of unrecognized Indian tribes

02:25:33.020 --> 02:25:33.860
from Mexico

02:25:33.860 --> 02:25:36.360
don't have the same advantages

02:25:36.360 --> 02:25:38.060
and I think that that's because

02:25:38.060 --> 02:25:40.540
you know if the tribe

02:25:40.540 --> 02:25:42.440
is from north of the Rio Grande

02:25:42.440 --> 02:25:44.220
and the concomitant lines that go with it

02:25:44.220 --> 02:25:46.400
then they're Indians but if it's south

02:25:46.400 --> 02:25:47.240
they're just Mexicans

02:25:48.720 --> 02:25:50.460
well that's a racism thing

02:25:50.460 --> 02:25:51.880
on the part of the Mexicans

02:25:51.880 --> 02:25:53.100
because here's the deal

02:25:53.100 --> 02:25:55.480
well he was a close friend

02:25:55.480 --> 02:25:57.620
we were not in contact anymore

02:25:57.620 --> 02:26:00.080
but he was basically my singular

02:26:00.080 --> 02:26:01.620
best friend for several years

02:26:01.620 --> 02:26:04.960
and his name was Nacho Ignacio Salazar

02:26:04.960 --> 02:26:06.640
and he was born in Mexico

02:26:07.040 --> 02:26:08.920
and every morning he would wake up

02:26:08.920 --> 02:26:11.160
and he would cross the border and come to school

02:26:11.160 --> 02:26:13.380
in the United States

02:26:13.380 --> 02:26:14.820
not Lord'sburg

02:26:14.820 --> 02:26:17.340
it doesn't matter if I think of it I'll tell you

02:26:17.340 --> 02:26:19.080
but anyway he would come across the border

02:26:19.080 --> 02:26:20.560
go to school and then go back across the border

02:26:20.560 --> 02:26:22.620
and go home because they could just go back

02:26:22.620 --> 02:26:24.380
and forth across the border and get free school

02:26:24.380 --> 02:26:27.180
in the United States and instead of Mexico

02:26:27.180 --> 02:26:28.760
and so he just at one point he just

02:26:28.760 --> 02:26:30.520
you know as an adult started living here

02:26:30.520 --> 02:26:31.920
and lived here all of his life

02:26:31.920 --> 02:26:34.380
now he was mad

02:26:34.380 --> 02:26:35.840
at his own family

02:26:35.840 --> 02:26:37.640
because his own family

02:26:38.460 --> 02:26:39.880
told him that he was

02:26:39.880 --> 02:26:42.140
Spanish, Spanish, Spanish, Spanish, Spanish

02:26:42.580 --> 02:26:44.300
and he found out as an adult

02:26:44.300 --> 02:26:46.200
that he had a good percentage

02:26:46.200 --> 02:26:48.780
and specific ancestors

02:26:48.780 --> 02:26:50.840
that were 100% Indian

02:26:50.840 --> 02:26:51.820
Native American

02:26:51.820 --> 02:26:54.120
and the point there is

02:26:54.720 --> 02:26:56.320
why Nacho, why that

02:26:56.320 --> 02:26:57.680
well because they're racist

02:26:57.680 --> 02:27:00.580
they try to sweep it under the carpet

02:27:00.580 --> 02:27:02.240
they don't want it to be known

02:27:02.240 --> 02:27:04.460
that they have mixed race in their family

02:27:05.300 --> 02:27:06.000
it's a

02:27:06.000 --> 02:27:07.220
you know up

02:27:08.180 --> 02:27:09.380
one up one down

02:27:09.380 --> 02:27:11.540
you're low class if you're an Indian

02:27:11.540 --> 02:27:14.100
and you're higher class if you're all Spaniard

02:27:14.100 --> 02:27:15.780
and so that's what they did because

02:27:16.260 --> 02:27:18.060
it's racist and that was

02:27:18.060 --> 02:27:20.040
all in Mexico that we didn't do that

02:27:20.640 --> 02:27:21.900
absolutely and then it's

02:27:21.900 --> 02:27:22.800
that was true here

02:27:22.800 --> 02:27:24.840
you know with say Blacks

02:27:24.840 --> 02:27:25.680
in Louisiana

02:27:26.400 --> 02:27:28.640
you'd have quadrunes or octunes

02:27:28.640 --> 02:27:30.500
or whatever and people would pass

02:27:31.520 --> 02:27:33.380
you know I don't think that that's

02:27:33.380 --> 02:27:34.500
evidence of racism

02:27:34.500 --> 02:27:37.140
personally I think it's evidence of practicality

02:27:37.140 --> 02:27:38.640
if you can do better

02:27:38.640 --> 02:27:40.520
by being part of

02:27:40.520 --> 02:27:42.840
the in-group then you can by being

02:27:42.840 --> 02:27:44.820
part of the out-group and who can't

02:27:45.860 --> 02:27:46.920
then be part

02:27:46.920 --> 02:27:48.700
of the in-group if you can be part of the in-group

02:27:49.540 --> 02:27:50.820
true but like

02:27:50.820 --> 02:27:52.700
I said in the case that that I gave they were

02:27:52.700 --> 02:27:55.000
actually embarrassed of it and tried to hide it

02:27:55.000 --> 02:27:56.960
because they didn't want anybody to know

02:27:56.960 --> 02:27:58.540
not not just that they would take advantage

02:27:58.540 --> 02:28:00.500
of being able to you know pass

02:28:01.020 --> 02:28:02.920
well that's that that's the best way

02:28:02.920 --> 02:28:04.400
for people not to know they probably

02:28:05.760 --> 02:28:06.880
presumed that if they told

02:28:06.880 --> 02:28:08.720
their son that he was

02:28:08.720 --> 02:28:10.540
a Spaniard as opposed to

02:28:10.540 --> 02:28:12.580
you know an Indian then

02:28:12.580 --> 02:28:14.360
their son would repeat that

02:28:14.360 --> 02:28:16.900
and it would make the lie more true

02:28:16.900 --> 02:28:18.840
and this was before 23

02:28:18.840 --> 02:28:20.920
and me and people would know these things

02:28:20.920 --> 02:28:22.680
and you know who could predict that

02:28:22.680 --> 02:28:24.700
I didn't you know I couldn't predict that

02:28:24.700 --> 02:28:25.480
I didn't think about it

02:28:25.480 --> 02:28:28.660
and I didn't hear any predictions and so

02:28:28.660 --> 02:28:30.940
I again I give the parents

02:28:30.940 --> 02:28:32.700
lots of leeway in this I don't call that

02:28:32.700 --> 02:28:34.300
racism I don't call that unacceptable

02:28:35.180 --> 02:28:36.840
but I also don't

02:28:36.840 --> 02:28:36.960
think

02:28:38.860 --> 02:28:40.700
so the protection of life liberty and

02:28:40.700 --> 02:28:42.520
properties is what the Free State Project

02:28:42.520 --> 02:28:44.220
thought about but it's an effort to move

02:28:44.220 --> 02:28:46.280
20,000 people who understand

02:28:46.280 --> 02:28:48.160
it's about demonstrating

02:28:48.160 --> 02:28:50.380
to the entire country that yeah we can

02:28:50.380 --> 02:28:52.200
have a free market a truly

02:28:52.200 --> 02:28:54.140
free market making it just a free

02:28:54.140 --> 02:28:56.340
a great place to live it's

02:28:56.340 --> 02:28:57.660
the world's largest

02:28:58.700 --> 02:29:00.300
volunteerist libertarian community

02:29:00.300 --> 02:29:02.020
and it's only getting bigger

02:29:02.020 --> 02:29:04.240
that's amazing to be able to move to a

02:29:04.240 --> 02:29:05.980
place where other people like passionately

02:29:05.980 --> 02:29:07.280
believe in being free and independent

02:29:07.280 --> 02:29:09.560
what the Free State Project is managing to do though

02:29:09.560 --> 02:29:12.020
is to put their money where their mouth is

02:29:12.020 --> 02:29:13.960
physically getting up across the country

02:29:13.960 --> 02:29:15.880
and saying let's go someplace and let's demonstrate

02:29:15.880 --> 02:29:17.960
the power of these ideas there's

02:29:17.960 --> 02:29:19.740
a lot of kind of philosophy

02:29:19.740 --> 02:29:21.720
that surrounds liberty there's a lot of thinking

02:29:21.720 --> 02:29:23.680
about it and talking about it but here in New Hampshire

02:29:23.680 --> 02:29:25.140
people are doing it

02:29:25.140 --> 02:29:28.040
101 Reasons Liberty Lives in New Hampshire

02:29:28.040 --> 02:29:30.060
a documentary by Free State Project

02:29:30.060 --> 02:29:31.800
Early Movers watch it free

02:29:31.800 --> 02:29:33.800
at 101reasonsFilm.com

02:29:34.960 --> 02:29:36.120
101ReasonsFilm.com

02:29:44.660 --> 02:29:45.300
It's understood that back channel talks

02:29:45.300 --> 02:29:45.340
and Tehran with various countries

02:29:45.340 --> 02:29:45.720
and forth.

02:29:45.720 --> 02:29:47.320
The U.S. President said the deadline

02:29:47.320 --> 02:29:49.720
extension request came from Tehran

02:29:49.720 --> 02:29:51.620
though that's not yet been confirmed

02:29:51.620 --> 02:29:52.620
by Iran.

02:29:53.000 --> 02:29:55.120
Donald Trump added that talks were going

02:29:55.120 --> 02:29:57.640
very well but Iran's leadership says

02:29:57.640 --> 02:29:59.900
the peace proposal floated by the U.S.

02:29:59.920 --> 02:30:01.800
was excessive and unfair.

02:30:02.180 --> 02:30:04.100
Ross Cullen reports from the Turkish city

02:30:04.100 --> 02:30:05.940
Iran near the Iran border.

02:30:06.280 --> 02:30:08.120
It's understood that back channel talks

02:30:08.120 --> 02:30:09.960
are being held between Washington

02:30:09.960 --> 02:30:11.640
and Tehran with various countries

02:30:11.640 --> 02:30:14.000
involved in conveying messages back and forth

02:30:14.000 --> 02:30:16.120
according to reports in the Wall Street Journal

02:30:16.120 --> 02:30:18.160
Donald Trump is considering sending

02:30:18.160 --> 02:30:20.220
another 10,000 ground troops

02:30:20.220 --> 02:30:21.980
to the Middle East ahead of a possible

02:30:21.980 --> 02:30:23.420
incursion into Iran.

02:30:23.740 --> 02:30:25.720
India is cutting taxes on petrol

02:30:25.720 --> 02:30:27.740
and diesel as concerns mount

02:30:27.740 --> 02:30:29.300
over a hike in fuel prices

02:30:29.300 --> 02:30:31.140
due to the war in West Asia.

02:30:31.140 --> 02:30:34.100
The cut could help oil-selling companies

02:30:34.100 --> 02:30:36.760
recoup some of their heightened costs

02:30:36.760 --> 02:30:38.660
due to supply disruptions

02:30:38.660 --> 02:30:39.880
and if passed on

02:30:39.880 --> 02:30:42.660
could also help consumers save more money.

02:30:43.120 --> 02:30:44.740
Ishan Garg tells us more

02:30:44.740 --> 02:30:45.480
from New Delhi.

02:30:45.800 --> 02:30:47.280
The Indian government has cut down

02:30:47.280 --> 02:30:49.600
excise duty on petrol and diesel

02:30:49.600 --> 02:30:51.080
by roughly 10% each

02:30:51.080 --> 02:30:53.180
but it's unclear if that benefit

02:30:53.180 --> 02:30:55.120
will actually reach the common public.

02:30:55.620 --> 02:30:57.720
Analysts say it will help oil companies

02:30:57.720 --> 02:30:59.780
most of which are government owned

02:30:59.780 --> 02:31:01.340
manage their costs.

02:31:01.680 --> 02:31:04.020
Concerns about fuel inflation have been looming

02:31:04.020 --> 02:31:06.300
since the war in Gulf started a month ago.

02:31:06.760 --> 02:31:08.340
India relies on imported fuel

02:31:08.340 --> 02:31:10.320
for about 80% of its needs

02:31:10.320 --> 02:31:11.880
and the country is preparing

02:31:11.880 --> 02:31:13.580
for the long haul with Prime Minister

02:31:13.580 --> 02:31:15.980
Narendra Modi warning of hard times

02:31:15.980 --> 02:31:18.280
ahead if the conflict drags on.

02:31:18.700 --> 02:31:19.580
He's holding a meeting

02:31:19.580 --> 02:31:21.860
with the chiefs of Indian states on Friday

02:31:21.860 --> 02:31:23.900
with an eye on managing fuel supplies.

02:31:24.480 --> 02:31:25.500
Pakistan's aviation

02:31:25.500 --> 02:31:27.540
sectors incurred losses of around

02:31:27.540 --> 02:31:29.160
72 million dollars

02:31:29.160 --> 02:31:31.420
as airspace disruptions linked to the

02:31:31.420 --> 02:31:33.320
Iran war continued to ripple

02:31:33.320 --> 02:31:34.220
across the region.

02:31:34.840 --> 02:31:36.720
Hundreds of flights to Middle Eastern countries

02:31:36.720 --> 02:31:38.460
are being cancelled each day

02:31:38.460 --> 02:31:40.660
affecting passengers and businesses

02:31:40.660 --> 02:31:42.760
reliant on regional connectivity.

02:31:43.560 --> 02:31:45.800
Here in Mustapha reports from Islamabad.

02:31:46.040 --> 02:31:47.480
Pakistani officials say

02:31:47.480 --> 02:31:49.240
flights to Dubai, Doha,

02:31:49.440 --> 02:31:51.500
Abu Dhabi, Muscat and Sharjah

02:31:51.500 --> 02:31:53.400
have been severely disrupted

02:31:53.400 --> 02:31:55.440
amid the ongoing regional crisis.

02:31:55.440 --> 02:31:57.580
They warned the situation is taking

02:31:57.580 --> 02:31:58.860
a toll on passengers

02:31:58.860 --> 02:32:01.860
and dealing a heavy blow to the aviation sector.

02:32:02.300 --> 02:32:03.400
Pakistan's national

02:32:03.400 --> 02:32:05.620
carrier PIA has cancelled

02:32:05.620 --> 02:32:07.680
more than 500 flights

02:32:07.680 --> 02:32:08.420
so far.

02:32:08.700 --> 02:32:10.320
Flights that are still operating

02:32:10.320 --> 02:32:12.560
are being forced to take longer routes

02:32:12.560 --> 02:32:14.420
driving up fuel consumption

02:32:14.420 --> 02:32:17.200
and insurance costs linked to war risk

02:32:17.200 --> 02:32:17.900
exposure.

02:32:18.280 --> 02:32:20.420
A US sector of state marker Rubio is joining

02:32:20.420 --> 02:32:22.140
G7 counterparts in France

02:32:22.140 --> 02:32:24.080
for talks on the conflict in Iran

02:32:24.080 --> 02:32:25.280
and the war in Ukraine.

02:32:25.800 --> 02:32:28.020
The UK is among several powers expressing concerns

02:32:28.020 --> 02:32:29.980
over Moscow allegedly sharing

02:32:29.980 --> 02:32:31.500
intelligence with Tehran

02:32:31.500 --> 02:32:33.800
to help them target US forces.

02:32:34.280 --> 02:32:36.320
From bureaus worldwide, this is

02:32:36.320 --> 02:32:36.700
FSN.

02:33:07.980 --> 02:33:09.600
All you have to do is call

02:33:09.600 --> 02:33:12.680
6-0-3-2-8-3-6-1-6-0

02:33:12.680 --> 02:33:14.260
and you can talk to us.

02:33:15.020 --> 02:33:16.240
The Oscar tonight is

02:33:16.240 --> 02:33:17.740
Stu, Riley O'Bell

02:33:18.660 --> 02:33:19.640
and Mark Edge.

02:33:20.820 --> 02:33:21.620
And we

02:33:21.620 --> 02:33:24.060
do have colors on the line so we're going to

02:33:24.060 --> 02:33:25.560
go to Lamar Colorado.

02:33:27.000 --> 02:33:28.160
What's on your mind tonight?

02:33:29.140 --> 02:33:30.140
Listening to the show

02:33:30.140 --> 02:33:32.000
for the first time, very interesting topics.

02:33:33.400 --> 02:33:34.440
I'm curious about

02:33:34.440 --> 02:33:36.080
your checkpoint that you went through

02:33:36.080 --> 02:33:37.300
in I-10 and I-40.

02:33:37.800 --> 02:33:39.860
How were you able to prove your US citizenship

02:33:39.860 --> 02:33:40.740
when you were questioned?

02:33:41.700 --> 02:33:43.360
Sure, this one was in particular

02:33:43.920 --> 02:33:45.540
outside of El Paso on

02:33:45.540 --> 02:33:46.260
I-10.

02:33:47.920 --> 02:33:49.820
I can't tell you the year but

02:33:49.820 --> 02:33:50.660
I'm going to say

02:33:53.000 --> 02:33:53.520
8

02:33:53.520 --> 02:33:54.660
to 10 years ago.

02:33:58.640 --> 02:34:00.000
They didn't ask

02:34:00.000 --> 02:34:00.620
me to prove.

02:34:01.820 --> 02:34:03.660
It was really just a situation

02:34:03.660 --> 02:34:05.480
where a Hispanic

02:34:05.480 --> 02:34:06.620
looking gentleman

02:34:06.620 --> 02:34:09.120
says, you know, what's your citizenship?

02:34:09.800 --> 02:34:09.860
Right?

02:34:10.320 --> 02:34:12.800
I'm not giving you my citizenship.

02:34:13.320 --> 02:34:14.360
Am I being detained?

02:34:15.520 --> 02:34:16.600
Am I free to go?

02:34:18.840 --> 02:34:20.480
No, you're not being detained.

02:34:20.720 --> 02:34:21.500
Okay, then I'll leave.

02:34:21.760 --> 02:34:22.580
No, you can't leave.

02:34:22.820 --> 02:34:23.860
Oh, then I'm being detained.

02:34:24.540 --> 02:34:26.760
What reasonable, articulable suspicion do you have

02:34:26.760 --> 02:34:27.820
that I've committed a crime?

02:34:28.420 --> 02:34:29.680
You're not being detained, right?

02:34:29.680 --> 02:34:31.680
Like, is this sort of roundabout thing

02:34:31.680 --> 02:34:33.140
that goes on for a little while?

02:34:33.240 --> 02:34:35.440
Then they take some dogs to sniff the car

02:34:35.440 --> 02:34:37.660
and then I say, well, what are you

02:34:37.660 --> 02:34:39.840
looking for? See, I knew this was a drug

02:34:39.840 --> 02:34:41.280
stop. We're not looking for drugs.

02:34:41.440 --> 02:34:43.620
We're looking for immigrants, illegal

02:34:43.620 --> 02:34:45.640
immigrants. And I said, well, what do they smell like?

02:34:45.740 --> 02:34:47.640
Because there's people in the car, right?

02:34:50.460 --> 02:34:51.500
And I remember

02:34:51.500 --> 02:34:53.860
that was a great quip. What do they smell like?

02:34:55.160 --> 02:34:55.480
And, you know,

02:34:55.640 --> 02:34:57.400
fundamentally it's a very privileged

02:34:57.400 --> 02:34:59.220
thing to do. I was in

02:34:59.220 --> 02:35:01.280
no risk whatsoever, because

02:35:01.280 --> 02:35:03.740
at any point I could say, I was born

02:35:03.740 --> 02:35:05.400
in Sarasota, Florida

02:35:05.400 --> 02:35:08.080
and you and I know it, right?

02:35:08.380 --> 02:35:09.380
I can't say that.

02:35:09.540 --> 02:35:11.240
I was born overseas. My dad

02:35:11.240 --> 02:35:12.560
was active duty military.

02:35:13.500 --> 02:35:15.340
My mother was born over

02:35:15.340 --> 02:35:17.080
in France. My grandparents

02:35:17.080 --> 02:35:19.500
were in an internment camp in East Germany

02:35:19.500 --> 02:35:20.660
during World War II.

02:35:21.520 --> 02:35:23.140
So my mother came to the States

02:35:23.140 --> 02:35:25.520
in 1953 through Ellis Island

02:35:25.520 --> 02:35:27.260
to become a U.S. citizen.

02:35:27.880 --> 02:35:29.480
And later married my father.

02:35:30.280 --> 02:35:31.440
Because she was Polish,

02:35:31.740 --> 02:35:33.320
my father, being an active duty

02:35:33.320 --> 02:35:35.580
army, lost his top secret

02:35:35.580 --> 02:35:37.240
security clearance because of

02:35:37.240 --> 02:35:38.620
really former

02:35:39.240 --> 02:35:41.180
citizenship being close to Russia.

02:35:43.160 --> 02:35:45.420
I am a U.S. citizen. I'm

02:35:45.420 --> 02:35:46.540
a military veteran.

02:35:47.440 --> 02:35:49.260
I even held ATS clearance.

02:35:49.540 --> 02:35:51.160
And the only way to hold that is to be

02:35:51.160 --> 02:35:53.540
a U.S. citizen and only a U.S.

02:35:53.540 --> 02:35:55.480
citizen. But when

02:35:55.480 --> 02:35:57.160
we get into these things about

02:35:57.160 --> 02:35:59.420
are you a citizen pop here in

02:35:59.420 --> 02:36:01.580
Bitta with the border patrol

02:36:01.580 --> 02:36:03.580
stuff. Yeah, I wasn't born here

02:36:03.580 --> 02:36:04.840
guys, but I am a citizen.

02:36:05.740 --> 02:36:07.360
How do I prove that to you?

02:36:08.020 --> 02:36:09.700
Yeah, that's, well, I suspect

02:36:09.700 --> 02:36:11.440
it just comes down to accent

02:36:11.440 --> 02:36:13.700
and yours passes the muster.

02:36:14.100 --> 02:36:15.360
They're not even going to ask

02:36:15.360 --> 02:36:17.040
a question when it comes to it.

02:36:17.320 --> 02:36:19.180
They're looking for the obvious

02:36:20.120 --> 02:36:20.660
situation.

02:36:21.920 --> 02:36:23.520
I pass through those things

02:36:24.040 --> 02:36:25.260
nonverbally all the time

02:36:25.260 --> 02:36:26.900
that ask the question.

02:36:27.080 --> 02:36:28.640
I'd give kind of half a head nod

02:36:28.640 --> 02:36:30.140
and they'd be like, all right, on your way.

02:36:30.720 --> 02:36:32.600
And previously that's what I had done too.

02:36:33.140 --> 02:36:34.600
I just ran up on somebody who

02:36:34.600 --> 02:36:35.720
wasn't going to let me through.

02:36:38.420 --> 02:36:39.200
Thanks for the call.

02:36:39.680 --> 02:36:40.800
Yeah, I appreciate that.

02:36:41.220 --> 02:36:42.380
Have a good day. You too.

02:36:42.980 --> 02:36:44.280
Thanks for the call. Always

02:36:44.280 --> 02:36:46.100
nice to have a new color. Absolutely.

02:36:47.440 --> 02:36:48.060
We've got

02:36:48.060 --> 02:36:50.060
Creighton in Kentucky who is not

02:36:50.060 --> 02:36:51.820
a new color, but is a good color.

02:36:51.940 --> 02:36:52.880
Creighton, what's on your mind?

02:36:54.060 --> 02:36:55.800
Hi guys, it's been a long

02:36:55.800 --> 02:36:57.520
time since I called in part because

02:36:57.520 --> 02:36:59.700
I've been on a kind of a

02:36:59.700 --> 02:37:01.660
no-screen digital internet

02:37:01.660 --> 02:37:02.240
fast.

02:37:04.180 --> 02:37:05.720
And it's an interesting thing

02:37:05.720 --> 02:37:07.420
that you that you

02:37:07.420 --> 02:37:09.440
experienced something like that in the middle

02:37:09.440 --> 02:37:10.300
of a war.

02:37:12.940 --> 02:37:13.460
So

02:37:13.460 --> 02:37:16.040
I started right at the beginning

02:37:16.040 --> 02:37:16.640
of

02:37:16.640 --> 02:37:18.800
the attack on Iran

02:37:18.800 --> 02:37:19.480
and

02:37:20.760 --> 02:37:22.920
I was kind of surprised

02:37:22.920 --> 02:37:24.640
that it was still going on when I

02:37:24.640 --> 02:37:25.960
came out of it.

02:37:27.600 --> 02:37:28.400
And

02:37:28.400 --> 02:37:30.260
I'm interested

02:37:30.260 --> 02:37:31.000
in

02:37:31.000 --> 02:37:34.820
my spirit host

02:37:34.820 --> 02:37:35.800
opinion

02:37:35.800 --> 02:37:39.220
on this whole thing with Iran.

02:37:40.600 --> 02:37:41.800
Mark Edge,

02:37:42.340 --> 02:37:43.240
my spirit host

02:37:43.240 --> 02:37:44.000
Yep.

02:37:45.520 --> 02:37:47.240
What do you think about what's

02:37:47.240 --> 02:37:49.060
going on over there? Well, just

02:37:49.060 --> 02:37:51.040
to, you know, to remove all doubt

02:37:51.040 --> 02:37:53.020
from anybody's mind, I was against this war

02:37:53.020 --> 02:37:55.000
before it started. And I'm against

02:37:55.000 --> 02:37:56.640
the next one that started too.

02:37:56.880 --> 02:37:58.420
And I don't care which one

02:37:58.420 --> 02:37:59.420
of the

02:38:01.100 --> 02:38:02.920
megalomaniacs that are occupying

02:38:02.920 --> 02:38:04.520
the White House starts it.

02:38:05.880 --> 02:38:06.220
But

02:38:06.800 --> 02:38:08.860
I was impressed with the

02:38:09.700 --> 02:38:10.740
Venezuelan conflict

02:38:10.740 --> 02:38:13.200
over and done with in an instant, right?

02:38:13.300 --> 02:38:15.020
Like they toppled a country in an hour

02:38:15.020 --> 02:38:16.080
or something.

02:38:16.960 --> 02:38:19.060
Impressive. I'm not supporting it.

02:38:19.120 --> 02:38:19.800
I'm just impressed.

02:38:21.100 --> 02:38:22.940
And with this one, I don't

02:38:22.940 --> 02:38:24.900
it doesn't seem like it's going quite so

02:38:24.900 --> 02:38:25.240
well.

02:38:27.000 --> 02:38:28.520
I, you know, I mean

02:38:28.520 --> 02:38:30.560
the idea that Trump and

02:38:30.560 --> 02:38:32.660
his, well, he's responsible.

02:38:32.960 --> 02:38:34.360
He's the he's the guy given

02:38:34.360 --> 02:38:36.780
calling the shots. And there

02:38:36.780 --> 02:38:37.300
was a

02:38:38.160 --> 02:38:39.560
elementary school full of

02:38:39.560 --> 02:38:41.240
kids that was killed.

02:38:42.100 --> 02:38:43.460
And I think it's

02:38:43.460 --> 02:38:45.300
it's it's terrible and it's

02:38:45.300 --> 02:38:47.480
sad. And that's the cost of war.

02:38:47.760 --> 02:38:49.360
And personally, I'm not willing to

02:38:49.360 --> 02:38:51.160
pay it. So

02:38:51.160 --> 02:38:53.520
you know, go and have your war

02:38:53.520 --> 02:38:55.060
but not with me.

02:38:55.380 --> 02:38:57.260
Yeah. Personally, I think he's

02:38:57.260 --> 02:38:58.560
stepped right in it with this one.

02:38:59.220 --> 02:39:01.020
Like you said, the Venezuelan thing

02:39:01.020 --> 02:39:03.020
went off without a hitch. And

02:39:03.020 --> 02:39:05.620
I think I think so. He got a little too cocky

02:39:05.620 --> 02:39:07.540
some of his advisors were just telling him, look,

02:39:07.640 --> 02:39:09.700
we can do Iran next. And it'll go off

02:39:09.700 --> 02:39:11.220
exactly the same way. But he

02:39:11.220 --> 02:39:13.480
after that, but he didn't do his rating up

02:39:13.480 --> 02:39:15.020
because Iran's been

02:39:15.540 --> 02:39:17.440
waiting for this for a long time.

02:39:18.960 --> 02:39:19.680
They were

02:39:19.680 --> 02:39:20.720
not surprised by it.

02:39:21.580 --> 02:39:23.040
I'm a veteran in the Marine Corps

02:39:24.220 --> 02:39:25.540
and that gives me

02:39:25.540 --> 02:39:27.160
a different perspective than most

02:39:27.160 --> 02:39:28.000
libertarians.

02:39:29.760 --> 02:39:31.620
Generally speaking, I am

02:39:32.680 --> 02:39:34.360
I have a bias against war.

02:39:35.500 --> 02:39:36.420
But I

02:39:36.420 --> 02:39:37.660
am not anti-war.

02:39:38.680 --> 02:39:40.300
And I had to look

02:39:40.300 --> 02:39:42.300
at this one. And my opinion is a little

02:39:42.300 --> 02:39:43.960
different, I think, than Mark

02:39:43.960 --> 02:39:44.060
said.

02:39:46.740 --> 02:39:48.400
The thing of it is, is that

02:39:48.400 --> 02:39:50.380
I look at it the same way you look at

02:39:50.380 --> 02:39:52.280
when two people fighting, you know,

02:39:54.260 --> 02:39:54.580
the

02:39:55.760 --> 02:39:56.220
rule

02:39:56.220 --> 02:39:58.260
about who threw the first punch.

02:39:59.520 --> 02:39:59.980
And

02:40:00.660 --> 02:40:02.280
and if you look at it in the short

02:40:02.280 --> 02:40:04.240
term, you look at it and you think,

02:40:04.420 --> 02:40:05.960
well, obviously Donald Trump

02:40:05.960 --> 02:40:08.220
threw the first punch. And I don't think

02:40:08.220 --> 02:40:08.760
that's true.

02:40:10.600 --> 02:40:11.220
Because

02:40:11.220 --> 02:40:13.300
if you look at the totality

02:40:14.000 --> 02:40:14.620
of

02:40:16.050 --> 02:40:18.000
what the things that have happened

02:40:18.000 --> 02:40:20.000
since the Iran

02:40:20.000 --> 02:40:22.420
the current regime in Iran has taken over

02:40:24.220 --> 02:40:26.060
you can connect

02:40:26.060 --> 02:40:27.440
either directly or indirectly

02:40:28.160 --> 02:40:30.060
Iran, the government

02:40:30.060 --> 02:40:31.300
of Iran to

02:40:32.720 --> 02:40:33.680
practically everything

02:40:34.360 --> 02:40:35.880
that has gone badly

02:40:35.880 --> 02:40:36.720
or wrong

02:40:37.680 --> 02:40:39.660
or harshly in the Middle East.

02:40:41.220 --> 02:40:42.180
I disagree.

02:40:44.280 --> 02:40:46.040
Okay, you can disagree. That's fine.

02:40:46.740 --> 02:40:48.060
You're going to make the claim that

02:40:48.060 --> 02:40:49.820
Israel hasn't been the cause of anything

02:40:49.820 --> 02:40:51.640
bad in the Middle East? No, I'm not.

02:40:51.880 --> 02:40:53.100
Oh, okay. I'm not

02:40:53.740 --> 02:40:54.680
pro-Israel.

02:40:55.320 --> 02:40:57.920
I'm not pro-government. I think Israel's

02:40:57.920 --> 02:40:59.740
government is just as bad as most other

02:40:59.740 --> 02:41:01.680
governments. But Iran's

02:41:01.680 --> 02:41:03.780
government, the current government

02:41:03.780 --> 02:41:05.220
anyway, is uniquely

02:41:05.720 --> 02:41:07.500
bad. And that

02:41:09.740 --> 02:41:11.500
they have been

02:41:11.500 --> 02:41:13.760
not necessarily throwing punches

02:41:13.760 --> 02:41:15.500
but throwing

02:41:15.500 --> 02:41:17.500
fake punches and pulling their punches

02:41:17.500 --> 02:41:19.500
right at the last inch

02:41:19.500 --> 02:41:21.180
of our nose

02:41:21.920 --> 02:41:23.760
for the West

02:41:23.760 --> 02:41:25.920
nose for 50 years.

02:41:26.540 --> 02:41:28.400
So I don't know if you know how these things

02:41:28.400 --> 02:41:30.000
work but what actually happens is

02:41:30.000 --> 02:41:31.960
a banker sneaks up in between two guys

02:41:31.960 --> 02:41:33.600
and he punches one of them and then moves

02:41:33.600 --> 02:41:34.880
and when the guy turns around

02:41:35.480 --> 02:41:37.920
and he sees not the banker, he gets in a fight

02:41:37.920 --> 02:41:39.640
with the wrong guy and that's how it works

02:41:39.640 --> 02:41:40.980
and the banker always benefits.

02:41:42.480 --> 02:41:43.700
All wars are bankers' wars.

02:41:44.940 --> 02:41:46.420
All wars are bankers' wars

02:41:46.420 --> 02:41:48.240
but not all bankers'

02:41:48.440 --> 02:41:48.740
benefits.

02:41:50.660 --> 02:41:51.940
No, not all bankers'

02:41:52.080 --> 02:41:53.520
benefit but there is always a banker

02:41:53.520 --> 02:41:54.140
the benefits.

02:41:56.220 --> 02:41:56.860
Maybe.

02:41:57.980 --> 02:41:58.840
I will not contest.

02:41:59.360 --> 02:42:00.160
I'll give you that given

02:42:01.280 --> 02:42:03.140
but based on the idea

02:42:03.140 --> 02:42:04.240
that

02:42:04.240 --> 02:42:06.420
Iran has been

02:42:06.420 --> 02:42:07.520
involved

02:42:08.760 --> 02:42:10.600
in so much

02:42:11.500 --> 02:42:11.820
chaos

02:42:11.820 --> 02:42:13.740
in the Middle East

02:42:13.740 --> 02:42:15.580
for the past 50 years

02:42:15.580 --> 02:42:18.480
and the United States in particular

02:42:18.480 --> 02:42:20.680
but the West in general has been

02:42:20.680 --> 02:42:21.980
trying very hard

02:42:22.540 --> 02:42:24.060
to maintain the

02:42:24.060 --> 02:42:25.400
reduce the chaos.

02:42:25.660 --> 02:42:27.080
It seems like...

02:42:27.080 --> 02:42:28.760
Like fomenting coups

02:42:28.760 --> 02:42:31.920
and placing

02:42:31.920 --> 02:42:33.180
sanctions on countries

02:42:33.180 --> 02:42:35.520
and that's how you keep order?

02:42:37.020 --> 02:42:37.360
Yes.

02:42:37.900 --> 02:42:39.040
Regime changes

02:42:39.040 --> 02:42:41.640
and starving populations.

02:42:42.140 --> 02:42:42.640
One does wonder

02:42:42.640 --> 02:42:46.120
being the preferred trading partner

02:42:46.120 --> 02:42:48.180
of China, I hasn't exactly worked

02:42:48.180 --> 02:42:50.320
for dealing with that regime

02:42:50.320 --> 02:42:50.900
either.

02:42:51.380 --> 02:42:53.340
I don't know what the best solution

02:42:53.340 --> 02:42:56.060
for propagating regime changes

02:42:56.060 --> 02:42:57.360
around the world.

02:42:58.820 --> 02:42:59.380
I mean

02:42:59.380 --> 02:43:02.140
I can see the point

02:43:02.140 --> 02:43:04.080
where a direct intervention

02:43:04.080 --> 02:43:06.100
as opposed to wishing for

02:43:06.100 --> 02:43:07.080
good luck

02:43:08.180 --> 02:43:08.820
happens.

02:43:09.240 --> 02:43:11.060
But when it comes to the trolley scenario

02:43:11.060 --> 02:43:13.300
I say the guy who pulled the levers

02:43:13.300 --> 02:43:14.000
responsible

02:43:14.000 --> 02:43:16.440
and Trump decided

02:43:16.440 --> 02:43:18.400
in the trolley scenario that it was worth

02:43:18.400 --> 02:43:19.800
pulling the lever that he would

02:43:19.800 --> 02:43:22.300
the benefits would outweigh

02:43:22.300 --> 02:43:24.280
the costs and

02:43:25.500 --> 02:43:26.360
I mean

02:43:26.360 --> 02:43:27.860
I just think that by pulling the lever

02:43:27.860 --> 02:43:30.220
he became responsible for what was going on

02:43:30.220 --> 02:43:31.800
over there in a way that he wasn't

02:43:31.800 --> 02:43:33.120
previously responsible for.

02:43:33.520 --> 02:43:34.880
I do have a question

02:43:34.880 --> 02:43:37.080
that in a modern world

02:43:37.080 --> 02:43:37.940
when

02:43:38.900 --> 02:43:41.700
the people obviously want regime

02:43:41.700 --> 02:43:42.180
change

02:43:42.980 --> 02:43:45.620
and they can't get it because

02:43:46.940 --> 02:43:47.580
technology

02:43:47.580 --> 02:43:49.780
has gotten to the point that it allows

02:43:49.780 --> 02:43:51.760
totalitarian governments to have so much

02:43:51.760 --> 02:43:52.220
power

02:43:53.600 --> 02:43:54.880
then what

02:43:54.880 --> 02:43:57.560
do other countries do?

02:43:57.740 --> 02:43:59.180
I don't have an answer to that

02:44:00.480 --> 02:44:01.120
and

02:44:01.400 --> 02:44:03.300
like you Creighton, I shall not

02:44:03.300 --> 02:44:05.300
shed a tear over

02:44:05.300 --> 02:44:06.160
any of the

02:44:07.040 --> 02:44:09.580
leadership of Iran that might be killed

02:44:09.580 --> 02:44:11.240
here and there. But I do

02:44:12.240 --> 02:44:12.800
wonder

02:44:12.800 --> 02:44:15.720
what the mothers and fathers of those children

02:44:15.720 --> 02:44:16.940
that were killed say

02:44:17.860 --> 02:44:19.480
about US intervention

02:44:19.480 --> 02:44:21.700
like does it seem worth it to them

02:44:21.700 --> 02:44:23.560
and I suspect the answer is no.

02:44:25.400 --> 02:44:28.060
I also suspect the answer would be no.

02:44:28.920 --> 02:44:29.580
We definitely

02:44:29.580 --> 02:44:31.520
did see a lot of videos

02:44:31.520 --> 02:44:33.140
of young people

02:44:33.140 --> 02:44:35.620
Iran favoring

02:44:35.620 --> 02:44:36.820
regime change

02:44:36.820 --> 02:44:38.200
but that doesn't mean

02:44:38.640 --> 02:44:39.920
skeptical on those.

02:44:41.440 --> 02:44:43.920
That's not useful information

02:44:43.920 --> 02:44:44.540
because

02:44:44.540 --> 02:44:46.600
that's a cherry

02:44:46.600 --> 02:44:47.440
picked viewpoint

02:44:47.440 --> 02:44:50.360
and definitely does not necessarily

02:44:50.360 --> 02:44:52.600
re-represent anything close to

02:44:52.600 --> 02:44:53.580
majority of the population.

02:44:54.440 --> 02:44:56.260
But that's also beside the point

02:44:57.220 --> 02:44:58.100
because

02:44:59.080 --> 02:45:00.680
I think

02:45:00.680 --> 02:45:01.960
the goal is actually

02:45:01.960 --> 02:45:03.100
to deplete

02:45:04.960 --> 02:45:05.480
Iran's

02:45:08.600 --> 02:45:09.120
ammunition

02:45:10.300 --> 02:45:11.100
and I think

02:45:11.100 --> 02:45:12.600
there's been a wonderful job of doing that.

02:45:13.460 --> 02:45:14.840
So tell me of that tactic

02:45:14.840 --> 02:45:16.780
maybe you're looking at this differently than I am

02:45:16.780 --> 02:45:19.020
I don't know how many missiles Iran

02:45:19.020 --> 02:45:20.900
has. I suspect they were

02:45:20.900 --> 02:45:23.000
lying about it. I had a friend who

02:45:23.000 --> 02:45:24.980
was a quarter master for

02:45:25.640 --> 02:45:26.980
US tank battalion

02:45:26.980 --> 02:45:29.200
and he said that any given moment

02:45:29.880 --> 02:45:31.040
that one-third

02:45:31.040 --> 02:45:32.940
of their tanks were out of commission now

02:45:32.940 --> 02:45:34.960
I know I can go up online and look

02:45:34.960 --> 02:45:36.820
at how many tanks the US has and how many

02:45:36.820 --> 02:45:39.000
Russia has and these kind of things. I would presume

02:45:39.000 --> 02:45:40.420
these numbers are even greater

02:45:41.100 --> 02:45:42.900
for Russia. But one-third

02:45:42.900 --> 02:45:45.100
of US tanks are out of commission at any given time

02:45:45.100 --> 02:45:46.940
at the end of their war

02:45:46.940 --> 02:45:48.920
game training that goes

02:45:48.920 --> 02:45:51.040
on for a week or two weeks. I can't remember

02:45:51.680 --> 02:45:52.460
what he said

02:45:53.040 --> 02:45:55.180
that at that point

02:45:55.180 --> 02:45:57.060
another third of their

02:45:57.060 --> 02:45:58.300
tanks are out of commission

02:45:58.300 --> 02:46:00.480
so presuming that these

02:46:00.480 --> 02:46:02.140
tanks are coming in and out of

02:46:02.140 --> 02:46:04.020
service all the time

02:46:04.020 --> 02:46:06.520
about half of our tanks are out of commission

02:46:06.520 --> 02:46:07.660
at any one time

02:46:08.280 --> 02:46:10.560
I presume Iran who's been under sanctions

02:46:10.560 --> 02:46:11.740
for decades

02:46:12.600 --> 02:46:14.700
that is building these bombs

02:46:14.700 --> 02:46:16.360
these missiles excuse me

02:46:16.360 --> 02:46:18.620
that they have a difficult time

02:46:18.620 --> 02:46:20.000
finding parts

02:46:20.000 --> 02:46:22.480
and fuel and all these

02:46:22.480 --> 02:46:24.200
things. I've heard stories

02:46:24.200 --> 02:46:26.280
about the Chinese

02:46:26.280 --> 02:46:27.700
military using the

02:46:28.100 --> 02:46:29.200
rocket fuel to

02:46:29.200 --> 02:46:31.680
cook up whatever marmot they

02:46:31.680 --> 02:46:33.620
managed to catch recently

02:46:33.620 --> 02:46:35.660
and I suspect that those sorts of things

02:46:35.660 --> 02:46:37.920
go on in very poor places

02:46:39.080 --> 02:46:39.720
and

02:46:40.120 --> 02:46:42.020
so I kind of think

02:46:42.020 --> 02:46:43.780
they don't have anywhere near the missiles

02:46:43.780 --> 02:46:44.860
that we've been told

02:46:45.520 --> 02:46:48.000
and I'm kind of wondering if they're out of missiles almost

02:46:48.000 --> 02:46:48.500
entirely

02:46:50.040 --> 02:46:50.960
well probably

02:46:50.960 --> 02:46:53.700
and I can say that that was near

02:46:53.700 --> 02:46:56.020
a certainty because they just recently

02:46:56.020 --> 02:46:57.340
released 3,500

02:46:57.340 --> 02:46:59.200
marines of

02:46:59.200 --> 02:47:00.880
Apache helicopter

02:47:01.380 --> 02:47:01.820
and

02:47:01.820 --> 02:47:05.340
ATIN warthog units over there

02:47:05.340 --> 02:47:07.140
and both of those

02:47:07.700 --> 02:47:09.300
weapon systems are

02:47:09.300 --> 02:47:11.160
ground attack

02:47:11.700 --> 02:47:13.840
but they're also very vulnerable

02:47:13.840 --> 02:47:15.700
to missiles

02:47:15.700 --> 02:47:17.440
the service to air missiles

02:47:17.440 --> 02:47:19.560
so you don't introduce

02:47:19.560 --> 02:47:21.700
those weapons systems into an

02:47:21.700 --> 02:47:23.920
environment where you don't have absolute control of the air

02:47:24.780 --> 02:47:25.260
so

02:47:25.260 --> 02:47:27.760
there's the very fact that they're bringing those

02:47:27.760 --> 02:47:29.880
out of mothball because basically

02:47:29.880 --> 02:47:31.620
both of those systems are old

02:47:31.620 --> 02:47:33.660
right the ATIN

02:47:33.660 --> 02:47:35.100
was retired essentially

02:47:35.740 --> 02:47:37.900
you're not kidding when you say mothball

02:47:37.900 --> 02:47:39.540
they tried to give them to you

02:47:39.540 --> 02:47:41.300
Ukrainians so they're like hell no

02:47:41.300 --> 02:47:43.760
we don't want them we'd rather not go

02:47:43.760 --> 02:47:45.800
up in the air than go up in an ATIN

02:47:45.800 --> 02:47:47.660
but the claim is

02:47:47.660 --> 02:47:49.200
is that the ATIN is uniquely

02:47:49.200 --> 02:47:51.280
suited to take down these

02:47:51.280 --> 02:47:52.380
bathtubs that the

02:47:52.380 --> 02:47:54.420
Iranians are calling their

02:47:54.960 --> 02:47:56.160
navy at this point

02:47:57.260 --> 02:47:58.120
and they are

02:47:59.140 --> 02:48:01.400
attacked from the area to hit surface

02:48:02.360 --> 02:48:02.880
targets

02:48:03.500 --> 02:48:05.320
exactly what the ATIN is good at

02:48:05.320 --> 02:48:07.180
it's just a flying gatlin gun

02:48:07.180 --> 02:48:08.620
yeah well that's what it is

02:48:09.880 --> 02:48:11.240
well Crichton you haven't

02:48:11.240 --> 02:48:12.940
convinced me to support the war but

02:48:12.940 --> 02:48:14.280
you knew you weren't going to anyway

02:48:15.120 --> 02:48:17.280
but I do appreciate

02:48:17.280 --> 02:48:18.120
I have some

02:48:18.860 --> 02:48:20.440
commiseration with where you're at

02:48:20.440 --> 02:48:21.960
on the point but

02:48:21.960 --> 02:48:23.860
I just can't

02:48:23.860 --> 02:48:26.940
I know how inefficient the government is

02:48:26.940 --> 02:48:29.180
I kind of feel like

02:48:29.180 --> 02:48:31.120
the Trump administration is

02:48:31.120 --> 02:48:33.420
attempting to distract us from

02:48:33.420 --> 02:48:35.540
perhaps some more domestic issues

02:48:35.540 --> 02:48:37.120
that they wish would go away

02:48:39.040 --> 02:48:41.000
I kind of agree with that

02:48:41.000 --> 02:48:42.540
and thanks for the call today Crichton

02:48:42.540 --> 02:48:45.140
I can't get behind the war

02:48:45.140 --> 02:48:47.340
or pretty much any war

02:48:47.340 --> 02:48:49.020
I've never seen a

02:48:49.020 --> 02:48:50.920
proper justification that made me say

02:48:50.920 --> 02:48:51.980
yeah that war

02:48:51.980 --> 02:48:54.400
we definitely should have gotten involved in

02:48:54.400 --> 02:48:56.460
not even World War I

02:48:56.460 --> 02:48:57.640
not one war

02:48:58.660 --> 02:49:00.500
I'm against World War I

02:49:00.500 --> 02:49:02.400
but I think that

02:49:02.400 --> 02:49:04.720
well what about when the

02:49:04.720 --> 02:49:06.660
Texans took

02:49:07.720 --> 02:49:08.460
Mexico

02:49:09.140 --> 02:49:11.180
took Texas

02:49:11.180 --> 02:49:11.960
from Mexico

02:49:12.660 --> 02:49:13.400
and then

02:49:13.400 --> 02:49:15.220
the United States intervened

02:49:15.220 --> 02:49:15.820
and essentially

02:49:16.960 --> 02:49:18.380
beat Santa Ana

02:49:18.380 --> 02:49:20.980
I think that that's probably the most

02:49:21.820 --> 02:49:22.860
justifiable war

02:49:22.860 --> 02:49:25.740
that I can come up with

02:49:25.740 --> 02:49:26.540
in US history

02:49:26.540 --> 02:49:28.840
I know a lot of people want me to say

02:49:28.840 --> 02:49:30.860
World War II and the Nazis and those kind of

02:49:30.860 --> 02:49:32.500
things but I don't think you can separate

02:49:32.500 --> 02:49:33.720
World War I

02:49:33.720 --> 02:49:36.180
and the decisions that the allied

02:49:36.180 --> 02:49:37.960
pallors made there

02:49:37.960 --> 02:49:40.260
from World War II

02:49:40.260 --> 02:49:40.960
those

02:49:41.780 --> 02:49:44.160
decisions had concomitant issues

02:49:44.160 --> 02:49:45.740
and I'm just not prepared

02:49:45.740 --> 02:49:47.960
to agree with World War II

02:49:47.960 --> 02:49:49.860
but I think the Mexican-American

02:49:49.860 --> 02:49:50.340
war

02:49:51.680 --> 02:49:53.080
is the most justifiable

02:49:53.900 --> 02:49:54.600
what do you think?

02:49:55.100 --> 02:49:57.580
I guess that might be the closest

02:49:57.580 --> 02:49:59.980
to justifiable but I still couldn't

02:49:59.980 --> 02:50:01.100
get behind it

02:50:01.100 --> 02:50:02.580
What about the Revolutionary War?

02:50:03.140 --> 02:50:04.760
That was the one I was going to go with Riley

02:50:04.760 --> 02:50:05.300
thank you

02:50:06.100 --> 02:50:06.800
Go ahead

02:50:06.800 --> 02:50:10.540
I think the Revolutionary War

02:50:10.540 --> 02:50:11.460
was more of a

02:50:12.780 --> 02:50:14.120
was more of a

02:50:14.120 --> 02:50:15.820
a show than anything else

02:50:15.820 --> 02:50:18.260
I really don't think there was a lot

02:50:18.260 --> 02:50:19.640
genuine that happened there

02:50:19.640 --> 02:50:20.600
I think it was

02:50:22.520 --> 02:50:24.500
50% manufactured

02:50:24.500 --> 02:50:26.280
and just written into the history books

02:50:26.280 --> 02:50:27.820
may not have happened in the first place

02:50:27.820 --> 02:50:30.840
and 50% was just a small group of people

02:50:30.840 --> 02:50:32.260
who had a plan to do a thing

02:50:32.260 --> 02:50:33.660
and make it look like something else

02:50:35.320 --> 02:50:38.720
What did they do to make it look like a Revolutionary War?

02:50:39.980 --> 02:50:42.000
I'm open to the idea

02:50:42.000 --> 02:50:43.420
that this is

02:50:43.420 --> 02:50:44.840
Thomas Payne pamphlets

02:50:45.600 --> 02:50:46.740
talking about

02:50:47.780 --> 02:50:49.040
for the cause

02:50:49.040 --> 02:50:50.440
tea party

02:50:50.440 --> 02:50:51.920
that kind of stuff

02:50:51.920 --> 02:50:55.820
it very much rings true with modern-day propaganda techniques

02:50:56.480 --> 02:50:58.200
and social engineering

02:50:58.200 --> 02:50:59.980
I think it's social engineering

02:50:59.980 --> 02:51:01.040
and propaganda techniques

02:51:01.040 --> 02:51:02.440
I'm not disagreeing with that part

02:51:02.440 --> 02:51:04.680
but the question is what occurred

02:51:04.680 --> 02:51:05.800
and what didn't occur

02:51:05.800 --> 02:51:07.240
I have to

02:51:07.860 --> 02:51:10.260
this is the difficulty of my job

02:51:10.260 --> 02:51:11.480
as a talk show host

02:51:11.480 --> 02:51:13.440
is I have to look at something

02:51:13.440 --> 02:51:15.360
something out there is a fact

02:51:16.940 --> 02:51:18.620
and of course some of it

02:51:18.620 --> 02:51:20.020
is just fabrications

02:51:20.020 --> 02:51:21.500
I don't have an answer

02:51:21.500 --> 02:51:24.380
I feel like the Revolutionary War has been whitewashed

02:51:24.380 --> 02:51:25.880
and we didn't hear about

02:51:25.880 --> 02:51:26.840
many of the

02:51:28.200 --> 02:51:30.140
loyalists that got tarred and feathered

02:51:30.480 --> 02:51:32.320
and things like that

02:51:32.320 --> 02:51:33.120
that there was

02:51:33.120 --> 02:51:34.080
these people were

02:51:35.160 --> 02:51:37.120
basically punished without a trial

02:51:37.620 --> 02:51:39.260
and that sounds very un-American

02:51:39.260 --> 02:51:40.940
but probably happened

02:51:42.920 --> 02:51:45.600
I don't know a lot of that was probably

02:51:45.600 --> 02:51:47.160
just political enemies

02:51:47.160 --> 02:51:49.420
or something that needed to be cancelled

02:51:50.440 --> 02:51:52.600
in the end result

02:51:52.600 --> 02:51:54.560
there was a pause in the war

02:51:54.560 --> 02:51:56.880
for a little while and then it started up again in 1812

02:51:56.880 --> 02:51:58.780
and that one ended in a draw

02:51:59.520 --> 02:52:00.900
I don't think America

02:52:00.900 --> 02:52:02.500
ever gained their independence

02:52:03.360 --> 02:52:03.840
exactly

02:52:03.840 --> 02:52:06.380
I think they've always been under the control of

02:52:06.380 --> 02:52:07.840
some very European

02:52:11.260 --> 02:52:12.520
they call themselves

02:52:12.520 --> 02:52:13.500
round table groups

02:52:14.500 --> 02:52:16.360
there's a book called Tragedy and Hope

02:52:17.640 --> 02:52:19.700
that explains all of this very well

02:52:19.700 --> 02:52:21.240
yeah I have

02:52:21.240 --> 02:52:24.040
the author of Tragedy and Hope

02:52:24.040 --> 02:52:25.960
has been here on Free Talk Live

02:52:25.960 --> 02:52:27.240
I haven't listened to it

02:52:27.240 --> 02:52:27.720
and

02:52:28.680 --> 02:52:30.680
well I often

02:52:30.680 --> 02:52:33.140
am engrossed

02:52:33.140 --> 02:52:34.080
in these

02:52:35.440 --> 02:52:37.000
tales of these

02:52:37.700 --> 02:52:39.060
smoky smoke filled rooms

02:52:39.500 --> 02:52:41.340
where those that would

02:52:41.340 --> 02:52:43.500
rule us make deals

02:52:43.500 --> 02:52:45.060
with each other and these things

02:52:46.060 --> 02:52:48.140
the powers that ought not be

02:52:48.140 --> 02:52:48.780
that is wonderful

02:52:48.780 --> 02:52:50.780
I just don't know how to

02:52:51.340 --> 02:52:52.200
address it

02:52:52.200 --> 02:52:55.500
and I'm going to have to give

02:52:55.940 --> 02:52:57.340
the revolutionary war

02:52:57.340 --> 02:52:59.260
if we're going to call it a war rather than a rebellion

02:53:00.200 --> 02:53:01.520
I would have to give it

02:53:01.520 --> 02:53:02.940
the highest marks

02:53:02.940 --> 02:53:04.460
as far as

02:53:04.460 --> 02:53:07.220
US reasons for war

02:53:07.220 --> 02:53:09.740
now I will go ahead and take marks away

02:53:09.740 --> 02:53:11.260
for the reasons that I'm about to give

02:53:11.980 --> 02:53:14.180
we literally have an AB test

02:53:14.920 --> 02:53:15.860
as to

02:53:16.680 --> 02:53:18.100
Canada and the United States

02:53:18.100 --> 02:53:19.500
right like one of them

02:53:19.500 --> 02:53:21.400
secedes from the union the other one doesn't

02:53:21.400 --> 02:53:23.260
they have the same population

02:53:23.820 --> 02:53:25.340
almost everything is the same

02:53:25.720 --> 02:53:27.640
by the way some loyalists move north

02:53:27.640 --> 02:53:29.340
to Canada and you know those kind of things

02:53:30.240 --> 02:53:31.280
and when

02:53:31.280 --> 02:53:33.380
you look at the heritage foundations

02:53:34.820 --> 02:53:35.960
freedom of the world

02:53:35.960 --> 02:53:38.120
now heritage foundation no one would accuse

02:53:39.000 --> 02:53:39.520
the

02:53:39.520 --> 02:53:41.720
them of being some kind of

02:53:41.720 --> 02:53:43.080
libertarian think tank

02:53:43.080 --> 02:53:44.340
I mean they're conservative

02:53:46.930 --> 02:53:48.560
freest countries I'm looking up

02:53:48.930 --> 02:53:51.300
the Canada is actually

02:53:51.300 --> 02:53:51.780
listed

02:53:53.060 --> 02:53:54.000
as

02:53:54.850 --> 02:53:57.240
a freer place in the United States

02:53:57.240 --> 02:53:59.220
that's right here's freedom

02:53:59.220 --> 02:53:59.780
house

02:53:59.780 --> 02:54:02.480
there's a few different of these

02:54:02.480 --> 02:54:04.700
here it is heritage economic freedom

02:54:04.700 --> 02:54:06.560
heritage.org

02:54:07.080 --> 02:54:09.100
index of economic freedom

02:54:09.100 --> 02:54:10.880
and

02:54:10.880 --> 02:54:13.100
view rankings for all countries by the way

02:54:13.100 --> 02:54:14.920
the United States not in the top

02:54:16.120 --> 02:54:17.200
not in the top

02:54:17.880 --> 02:54:18.980
probably not over here

02:54:18.980 --> 02:54:20.780
probably not in the top 10 or

02:54:20.780 --> 02:54:21.920
maybe even 20

02:54:23.160 --> 02:54:24.800
right so I'm looking

02:54:24.800 --> 02:54:26.920
for their number overall

02:54:26.920 --> 02:54:28.020
score that'll do it

02:54:29.040 --> 02:54:30.840
Singapore Switzerland Ireland

02:54:30.840 --> 02:54:32.880
Australia Taiwan Luxembourg

02:54:33.620 --> 02:54:34.820
Denmark by the way

02:54:34.820 --> 02:54:36.920
Liechtenstein's too small to make this

02:54:36.920 --> 02:54:38.720
list but it would probably be number

02:54:38.720 --> 02:54:39.020
one

02:54:39.020 --> 02:54:42.540
Denmark Norway Estonia Netherlands Sweden

02:54:42.540 --> 02:54:44.420
New Zealand these are economic

02:54:44.420 --> 02:54:46.580
freedoms you may disagree on something else

02:54:46.580 --> 02:54:48.300
Finland Canada

02:54:48.300 --> 02:54:51.020
Lithuania Iceland Chile Cyprus

02:54:51.020 --> 02:54:53.080
South Korea Czech Republic

02:54:53.080 --> 02:54:54.380
United States

02:54:54.380 --> 02:54:56.600
right under Mauritius and right above

02:54:56.600 --> 02:54:57.960
the UAE

02:54:58.700 --> 02:55:00.760
so what number on the list is that

02:55:00.760 --> 02:55:02.220
you know it doesn't have a number

02:55:02.220 --> 02:55:05.000
just the way this thing is designed

02:55:05.000 --> 02:55:06.820
but I'm gonna say

02:55:06.820 --> 02:55:08.380
it's somewhere around 20

02:55:08.380 --> 02:55:11.140
20 20 to 30 and Canada's

02:55:11.140 --> 02:55:12.360
higher now

02:55:13.720 --> 02:55:14.620
by the way

02:55:14.620 --> 02:55:16.600
the raw score is

02:55:17.740 --> 02:55:18.780
call it three

02:55:18.780 --> 02:55:20.360
points higher out of a hundred

02:55:20.360 --> 02:55:22.080
nobody gets a hundred

02:55:23.460 --> 02:55:24.780
Singapore has

02:55:25.600 --> 02:55:27.060
scrolling and by the way

02:55:27.060 --> 02:55:28.560
not the you know the

02:55:28.560 --> 02:55:30.340
most socially free place but

02:55:30.340 --> 02:55:33.080
economically quite free 84.4

02:55:33.080 --> 02:55:34.940
Canada is

02:55:36.020 --> 02:55:37.380
75.2

02:55:37.380 --> 02:55:38.560
United States is

02:55:38.560 --> 02:55:40.980
73 excuse me that's

02:55:40.980 --> 02:55:42.760
Czech Republic 72.8

02:55:44.120 --> 02:55:44.800
so

02:55:45.540 --> 02:55:46.920
when you look at this

02:55:46.920 --> 02:55:48.020
you can see that

02:55:49.740 --> 02:55:50.940
somebody who did

02:55:50.940 --> 02:55:52.880
did the study found that Canada

02:55:52.880 --> 02:55:55.420
came out freer than the United States

02:55:55.420 --> 02:55:56.560
did quite a bit for

02:55:56.560 --> 02:55:58.860
so a revolutionary war

02:55:58.860 --> 02:56:01.120
in order to free you from a monarch

02:56:01.120 --> 02:56:02.760
5000 miles away

02:56:02.760 --> 02:56:04.440
apparently isn't a good choice

02:56:04.440 --> 02:56:06.000
turn out to be a bad trade

02:56:06.760 --> 02:56:08.800
yeah now I'm not saying it's a

02:56:08.800 --> 02:56:10.720
much worse choice is there's

02:56:10.720 --> 02:56:12.600
not a big trade here but

02:56:12.600 --> 02:56:14.880
you know the things that we pride

02:56:14.880 --> 02:56:16.500
ourselves on the most

02:56:16.500 --> 02:56:18.660
as libertarians may not even

02:56:18.660 --> 02:56:20.340
be that effectual for

02:56:20.340 --> 02:56:22.700
gaining freedom now we certainly got

02:56:22.700 --> 02:56:24.560
independence but you know the

02:56:24.560 --> 02:56:26.640
trade of one monarch 5000

02:56:26.640 --> 02:56:27.900
miles away for

02:56:27.900 --> 02:56:30.540
5000 monarchs one mile away I

02:56:30.540 --> 02:56:31.220
wouldn't make

02:56:32.400 --> 02:56:34.460
well some interesting

02:56:34.460 --> 02:56:36.660
things have come out of it

02:56:36.660 --> 02:56:38.420
such as the

02:56:38.420 --> 02:56:40.340
celebration of the right to bear arms

02:56:40.340 --> 02:56:42.520
has effectively resulted in

02:56:42.520 --> 02:56:44.380
a lot of guns in the hands of

02:56:45.260 --> 02:56:46.660
American citizens which

02:56:46.660 --> 02:56:48.380
is a big problem for

02:56:48.380 --> 02:56:50.500
the powers that ought not be

02:56:51.080 --> 02:56:52.460
because they would rather that you

02:56:52.460 --> 02:56:54.280
not have them so they can boss you around

02:56:54.280 --> 02:56:54.840
a lot easier

02:56:55.500 --> 02:56:57.540
yeah free men can own guns

02:56:57.540 --> 02:56:59.360
and the United States is by

02:56:59.360 --> 02:57:01.280
far the gun owning

02:57:01.280 --> 02:57:02.800
place in the world

02:57:02.800 --> 02:57:04.100
yeah it's real gun even

02:57:04.100 --> 02:57:05.640
you can find guns in other places though

02:57:05.640 --> 02:57:08.060
I don't think guns make you free

02:57:08.060 --> 02:57:10.580
yep this has been free talk live

02:57:10.580 --> 02:57:12.140
we'll be back next weekend

02:57:12.140 --> 02:57:14.480
thanks for listening peace

02:57:27.150 --> 02:57:28.630
if you're looking for work

02:57:28.630 --> 02:57:30.850
the person you are applying to

02:57:30.850 --> 02:57:33.230
is probably so swamped

02:57:33.230 --> 02:57:35.070
with applicants that he or she

02:57:35.070 --> 02:57:36.890
is tough to reach

02:57:36.890 --> 02:57:38.790
so call early in the day

02:57:38.790 --> 02:57:40.170
before eight a.m.

02:57:40.250 --> 02:57:42.430
before the palace guards arrive

02:57:42.430 --> 02:57:44.730
you'll need your prospects direct number

02:57:44.730 --> 02:57:47.170
and here's a sneaky way to get it

02:57:47.170 --> 02:57:48.910
suppose the company's main

02:57:48.910 --> 02:57:49.850
number is

02:57:51.630 --> 02:57:52.350
5555000

02:57:52.770 --> 02:57:53.770
you should call

02:57:56.630 --> 02:57:57.350
5555012

02:57:57.350 --> 02:57:59.090
when someone says

02:57:59.090 --> 02:58:00.650
good morning Pam Johnson

02:58:00.650 --> 02:58:02.610
you should innocently say oops

02:58:02.610 --> 02:58:04.970
somebody here must have written this down wrong

02:58:04.970 --> 02:58:06.710
I was calling for Tom Frederick

02:58:06.710 --> 02:58:08.070
what's his direct number

02:58:08.070 --> 02:58:10.850
if the very next thing you hear isn't Pam

02:58:10.850 --> 02:58:12.370
giving you Tom's number

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