It's time for Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock.
Believe me when I say we have a difficult time ahead of us.
But if we are to be prepared for it, we must first shed our fear of it.
I stand here without fear because I remember.
I remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me,
but because of the path that lies behind me.
I remember that for 100 years we have fought these machines.
And after a century of war, I remember that which matters most.
We are still here!
Let's make them remember.
We are not afraid!
Yeah!
Really?
Yeah!
We're not afraid even though, oh my god!
Oh my god!
OMG man!
This is, well, welcome to Declare Your Independence with me, Ernest Hancock,
for the Trump Report with Dr. Mark Canberra.
No, no, no, it's the Trump and Steen Report.
You keep getting it wrong.
Trump and Steen, but yeah, that's, you know, we're...
I maintain my mental sanity by knowing that.
It doesn't matter and I don't care, okay?
We insulate ourselves out here.
Donna and I are busy.
Tomorrow is Donna's birthday.
Aha!
And we're both 64 for nine days and it's my birthday.
I hit the 65 and do I get so secured?
I'm not enthusiastic.
I don't write, especially now.
You go ask him for benefits from the man, you know, even though you paid him whatever.
It comes with strings, attachments, and we need the GPS location for the Hellfire missile
kind of crap.
And I'm just, I'm just not feeling it.
You know, I'm supposed to go down tomorrow to whatever and with the Social Security
kind of dude, I don't feel it, man.
I'm just not feeling it.
I just, it's like, do I keep the date with Dracula?
Do I invite him in?
You know, he has to come in.
He wants to have a meal with me.
Do I invite him in?
You know, I'm thinking, I'm leaning not.
And my son-in-law is in financial planning and, you know, social security and Medicare
stuff and, you know, senior citizen, that's his thing.
And he goes, Dad, you got to get, you got to get in and do, you got to meet the deadline
of before then the month of your birthday.
And kind of, and if you don't, have his burger tried, you know, you'll die.
I mean, you know, something.
And I'm just, I'm not feeling good about it.
You're dancing with the devil.
You don't change him.
So I'm leaning, man, somebody's got it.
I may go down, but the first resistance that I get, well, you need to sign here.
You need to totally agree there.
You need to, and I was talking to Lieutenant Colonel Retired Air Force, Karen Katowski.
And she said, she and her husband went through this.
And she's a hardcore email onus.
And she goes, when you meet with them, they take you in a room and they're like a bank teller.
And I go, what do you mean?
She goes, but they're behind an itch or two of polycarbonate glass or barrier or whatever, transparent bulletproof, whatever.
And I'm like, why?
I don't know.
But when they're meeting with the public, they be afeard.
I'm an old man that wants to get my, you know, my entitlement.
I was promised, get my little scared checker diamond.
Give that as they're sitting behind bulletproof glass.
That really tells you everything right there.
This is like 1984 stuff.
And I just, I can't imagine wanting to interface with them regardless of the promise.
So that's kind of my initial reaction to that.
So I'll keep you guys informed of what happens.
I, that's what, I can do it by mail, you know, and stuff.
But I'm, I'm like, I think I'm going to go down there.
I want to go and experience the process.
And the first EBGB, which will be in the, you know, in the parking lot, you know, I, I like, I think I'll decline.
I'm prepared to, I think I'll decline.
The enticement, the fear that they put into you is access to healthcare.
Oh, you're 65. You're not allowed to do that.
You're allowed to get insurance. You're not allowed to pay care.
You're not allowed to, you know, so I'm going, um, what kind of private insurance case?
Oh, I don't know. Did you get your Medicaid?
You know, whatever, which a lot of my libertarian friends, I mean, they do.
And Karen's making the argument, hey, man, as much as you can milk them, you know, make it come around faster.
That's not even the point with me.
It's not getting the money.
It's not costing the money.
They just print more.
It's the, the, I totally agreed box.
You got to sign and, you know, and check.
That's what bothers me.
That's what I'm afraid.
That is my intuition.
That is my, you know, lifetime of history with, of observing these guys and then Iran.
And they're going to be looking for money.
They want some money.
Where are we going to get us some money?
How are we going to tax them more money?
We're going to talk about the war.
We're going to talk about some of the relationships with other countries.
We're going to talk about the escalation.
We're going to talk.
But the first thing I want to throw it to Frank on is this guy that comes out, the National Security Tulsi Gabbards thing,
the United Department of National Intelligence or whatever, that was created as a response to 9-11.
You know, we have way too many agencies, way too much information that we can't co-olate.
And we do it, well, here comes Palantir.
You know, they're going to, you know, we can do it for you.
You know, protect human, American individual rights, pinkie swear.
But we need to have this Department of National Intelligence so that we can coordinate all these bureaucracies and agencies that don't.
So we just need one more agency.
Yeah, yeah, that's a ticket.
We'll have one more agency, you know, so we can coordinate all the agencies.
Well, Tulsi came out.
She said, hey man, I just present all the threat analysis to whatever.
We elected President Trump to take that information, protect America.
Well, that's why he's doing kind of, you know, I didn't make a decision, but I give him the information for him to make a decision.
I'm not saying nothing about this, you know, Iran war, which she was heavily against, campaigned against, was against.
Now they're playing it off like, you know, JD Vance, you might be able to vote for him in 2080.
He was enthusiastic about this thing.
You know, maybe Vivek was against it.
You know, maybe, maybe, maybe, but Trump and him and that Yahoo, you know, the bud buddies.
Man, well, go get some.
Well, then you have the guy in charge of the war on terror or whatever, the Department of National Intelligence.
I don't know the name in front of me, but he goes, you know, I resign.
I'm done.
I can't support this thing.
I'm out.
So Tulsi's got to have a comment.
Well, we elected Trump to go kick out.
Why didn't she resign?
What role does she think she has in it?
Is there kind of cutting her out of anything anyway?
Does she care?
Do they threaten her?
What enticement?
What is in the, you know, the documents, the secret analysis of we got to go, you know, because behind the Iranians is lizard people from Alphys and something.
I mean, what is going on?
And why?
I have my opinions.
But what say Dr. Frank?
Oh, he disconnected.
I put him back in.
He missed all the good.
You there, Frank?
Yeah.
How much did you miss?
Because I get need your comment on.
No, I missed everything.
I'm sitting there.
I'm texting Donna and you and I'm like, Hey, what's going on?
All right.
Main thing is we go to war.
Trump and Steen goes to war.
Him and Netanyahu buddies.
We have Tulsi comes out and support.
Well, we elected Trump to take care of business and I just supply him information of which my head guy resigned over it, you know.
Yeah.
You know, we still got support Trump of why she's still there.
She was heavy against Iran.
I mean, I have no idea.
What say you?
Well, thank you.
You know what?
I already know what the hell you're talking about.
So that makes sense.
Joe Kent, I assume you did watch the Tucker interview with him.
Did you see that?
No, I did not.
When did that happen?
It just dropped last night.
When Joe Kent resigned, I said, I will bet a gold eagle one ounce that Tucker Carlson will have him within hours.
Savarda texted me.
He was right.
He dropped it within 24 hours of his resignation.
So it's a two hour interview with Joe Kent.
It's a banger and I'm just going to slap you around for not having a friend's finks already.
But anyway, but no, putting it up right freaking out later.
There we go.
And I'm only I have about like 45 minutes left to go on it.
But before we get to Joe Kent's interview, although to be honest, so far.
And by the way, it's a fantastic interview.
You should all watch it.
I have to say, and maybe it's just because you and I and this audience were kind of like we were to get it.
There hasn't been really any surprises.
I mean, he's basically just saying what we already know.
And but it's good to hear it from him.
And and you know what Joe Kent is representing and I'm not saying this lately.
He is what JFK wrote in his famous book.
Profiles and courage.
And you know, we're going through a transformation in this country.
That's the ultimate theme for this week.
I mean, who wrote profiles and courage?
What are you talking about?
JFK.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you ever read that book?
Did you ever see it?
I've heard of it.
Yeah, well, I won't do much of a detour, but I highly recommend it for the audience before he was president.
And I'm sure back then he had he had, you know, media people probably advised him on this.
I'm sure he had some co-writers on it.
I don't know.
But it's a fascinating book.
It's called Profiles and Courage.
Very famous.
A lot of you old timers know what I'm talking about.
And it came out kind of like today whenever a politician runs for office, it was come out with their autobiography right before they run.
Like as if it's not a mystery that they want to run for office.
Well, back then they weren't really doing biographies.
But this was, again, JFK was ahead of his time.
He was the first TV president, but he also, you know, whether you call manipulation or not, he saw that writing a book was a way to get him onto the platform for people to talk about him before the internet and all the TV shows.
So he wrote this book called Profiles and Courage.
And I forget how many stories are in there.
It's basically, it's like an anthology.
And it has like, like, I don't know, 30 or 40 chapters.
And each chat, I think something like that.
But each chapter is a profile and courage of an American who stood up to the man or did something that was revolutionary or unique that showed the foundation of what America is about.
And the thing is what's unique about it is that the stories were not about like Thomas Jefferson.
Which, you know, I mean, we're not taking it either way from Thomas Jefferson.
He was talking about people that were the second and third rung people that were ignored by history.
In fact, one of them, my honors history teacher, I remember talking about this book, one of the chapters, he said the best one was a man named Edmund Ross.
Edmund Ross.
And he's like, this guy lost the history.
And I even forget the whole story.
Well, I'll look it up for next time.
But basically he was like a representative from like a little tiny state.
And there was like this bill and this big wall that came down that to this day, America still stands behind.
But it was about to get shot down.
And he threw his entire political career on the line and got thrown run out of office on a bill that, you know, America still celebrates today.
It was stuff like that.
So anyway, my point is, it's a term profiles and courage for those of you that understand the prevalence of that book or the meaning behind it.
And that is Joe Kent.
Joe Kent is, I mean, if there's a new 2.0 edition, he'd be in there.
Which is a shame because, you know, who should be in there?
Tulsi Gabbard.
You know, people like her, but and she's not, she lost, she missed her opportunity.
And you're talking about Tulsi Gabbard's comments.
I want to ask you just real quick.
Okay, I don't want to throw the ball completely.
You can see it again.
Just hold for a sec.
But when you read Tulsi Gabbard's response, what did you take from that?
Did you take that as she's supplicating to the man and she's all, yeah, I'm all team Israel now?
Do you think like, how did you read that?
Because it's funny.
It's like a Worshack test.
I've talked to a few people and it's interesting how many different interpretations I've gotten from that.
Very vanilla statement.
What did you take from it?
My initial response was, she may know something we don't know, but we need to know it and why isn't she telling us?
Yeah.
Well, I certainly interpret that.
I think, I'm not sure what her play is.
She certainly was showing, the last, look, she was definitely all anti Iran war.
If you look on her Twitter feed, when she posted what she just did, she first posted on Twitter.
And so I never go on damn Twitter.
I hate that thing.
But, you know, sometimes I want to just check out the direct feed and the comments.
The comments section is always the most interesting.
You know, just give you a sense of the milieu out there and every, I mean, it was like thousands of comments.
I went through at least 150 and I could not find one that said anything nice about what she was saying.
Every one was, I mean, I would say half of the comments were just reposting the same post,
which was a copy of her t-shirt that she sold when she was running for office,
when she was running against the Democrats or whatever.
And it was a t-shirt saying, no war in Iran.
So she actually sold the t-shirt on her campaign website.
And so everybody was going, they were reposting her t-shirt.
Like, hey, Tulsi, so-so, you still selling these?
Like, later ask you if there's a discount on this shirt.
Like, everyone's going on the Iran shirt, right?
And so she's getting lambasted for 10,000 ways to Sunday, which she deserves.
But I was just curious, it's like, so she, she's getting hit with that.
There's no way of all people.
I mean, Donald Trump has put himself into a box about saying no Middle East wars
and all this kind of stuff.
But nobody boxed themselves in more specifically than Tulsi Gabbard.
And Trump went out of his way to put her in, in that kind of position.
Just like he did Joe Kent.
And of course, two days ago, he says, oh, yeah, I didn't realize,
he's soft on everything and he's not so smart.
He's a dumb guy.
Okay, yeah, well then you're the dumbass for putting him in, right?
But anyway, so Tulsi made no, he, she, I mean, this is,
this is like the larger issue.
I don't want to get too off topic, but like, you put Dan Bongino
and Kash Patel, who spent their entire time talking about Epstein,
and you put them in.
Like, if you really want to quash Epstein, why are you putting those people in?
But then those people wound up having a brain transplant.
And then the same thing with Tulsi.
I mean, if you really are thinking that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon
and I'm really secretly because of my stunning law,
you know, I really am for regime change, whatever,
why are you going to put of all people Tulsi Gabbard in?
I mean, it's just like, we'll get to the Trump thing later,
Trump and Steen, about whatever logic is there, if any,
or just he's a master at playing to all sides at the same time,
which is I think really what his superpower is.
But anyway, it's like you put Tulsi Gabbard in of all people
and then she's now in this box.
So the first thing she should do is effing resign, right?
I mean, that's just going to say it off the top.
That's what she should do.
And the fact that she didn't, and the fact that Joe Kent, her second,
you know, it's like, it's like, you know,
it's like Commander Riker resigning before John Luke Picard does,
you know, I mean, it's like that makes her look even worse.
So she has put herself into a box either because she's weak
or because she has some other strategy behind this,
whatever that might be.
But anyway, so she's the one with the shirts,
she's the one to put herself in this position.
And then she did, to her credit,
he and J.D. Vance were the only two people
who showed any pushback before they bombed Iran last year.
Again, we have to like, you know, do this in sections here.
How many times do we attack Iran
that we're not supposed to be attacking?
So she at least questioned it and put it out.
Then she was made person non grata
and she was not invited to the Christmas parties
and whatever else.
And there were a number of functions
that she was suddenly kept out of.
Now you'd think she would maybe have a backbone and say FU,
but instead that she wound up essentially clawing herself back
trying to prove her loyalty again.
And so she went Trump put her on some like, you know,
like dog watching patrol.
And so, so then she wound up doing this, this gig
where she was trying to help him
with his voting fraud measures from 2020 or something.
So like he put her on the other, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like he put her on something.
It's like, and also it's for a topic about the voting issue,
which was a way to show her loyalty over an issue
that's politically incorrect, but meant a lot to Trump.
So instead of dealing with national security
and foreign asset management and all of this,
she's doing his bidding, whatever,
to try to get back into the fold.
And then when I ran 2.0 or whatever that we're up to
with the bombing a few weeks ago,
now the sudden she's just disappeared, right?
She's nowhere to be heard.
So then Joe Kent does his thing yesterday
or two days ago, God bless him.
And now Tulsi comes out with that tweet.
So we're all kind of in the CM sequence.
In my opinion, because my wife read it and she's thinking,
oh, Tulsi's a sellout and she's completely,
well, I think she is in some ways,
but she's supporting the president.
And if you actually read what she's saying,
she's not at all what she's doing.
She's making the big mistake of trying
to make everybody happy.
She's trying to thread the needle
and she's trying to capitulate
without capitulation in her mind,
but she's failing from anyone who's really watching this
because that statement says nothing.
It's a statement of fact.
Basically, I'm paraphrasing.
The statement is Donald Trump is the president.
Donald Trump was elected leader.
Fact, he won the popular vote.
Fact, he sesses all the information given to him.
Fact, he made the decision.
He thinks his rest for this country.
Fact, well, I don't know about that one's a fact,
but fact, okay.
But there was not one piece of her interpretation
in there and she certainly didn't do
what the Ben Shapiro's wanted,
which is Joe Kent is a piece of crap
and he's a sellout to this country
and praise Israel or down with Iran
or Maga's Amazing.
I mean, nothing.
It was just a fact.
So you know that she's not happy about this,
but at the same time,
this is the time to stand up
or to either say something or resign,
which is what she should have done.
So Coltie Gabbard's political career is dead.
Dead on arrival.
Maybe she never wanted to do anything anyway
and I wouldn't blame her.
She's probably, she's that smart.
She wouldn't even want to be running for anything,
but she's done.
She's lost all integrity from both sides at this point.
And what's happened, I'll throw it back to you,
but I will tell you, Joe Kent,
I have to tell you, I mean,
I don't know what's going to happen,
but a lot of people are saying
when 2028 comes around,
it's not going to be Marco Rubio
because he's despised by many people from all sides.
He's neocon.
I mean, he's just, you know, he's a product.
He's like the leftovers from Thanksgiving dinner
of the neocons.
And he's been like that ever since he was the little puppet
of Jeb Bush and the Bush regime
and then the whole thing.
We can go all day about,
we all know this with Marco.
And then, of course, J.D. Vance.
This is his time to stand up
and be presidential with his principles.
It's about principles and you're definitely correct.
We will get to,
what does make America great really mean?
And as we learned this week,
well, we've kind of missed for a while,
make America great means whatever Donald Trump says it is.
It doesn't matter what it is.
It's just whatever he says,
according to him, that's what it is.
So now we have J.D. Vance.
This is his time to stand up and be presidential
and he's not.
So his presidential,
I don't know, whatever you call it,
hopefulness here, that's done.
And Marco Rubio's done.
And I really think 2028 is going to be a moment of
just a new clarity on both Democrats and Republicans
and hopefully libertarians or something else.
And I know I don't want to get in your whole thing
about still voting.
Just let's cut that out for a minute.
But as far as where the people are going to be leaning towards,
I knew that was coming up.
I could smell it from here.
But I'm just saying that where would this go?
I think it's going to have to be an outsider.
If they play the same, same old on both parties,
basically you're going to have an Ernie Hancock revolution
of I just don't care and don't vote,
which would make you have.
How Gauls Gauls.
Yeah, no, exactly.
I'm with you.
Hey buddy.
Hey look, if it's J.D. Vance.
That was shrugging.
And the regular Democrat, I'm like done.
But imagine if Owen Shrier runs or you have,
or R.F.K. Jr., we get somebody different
or someone who's a real, like truly outside the box
that they're going to have to attack or try to go after.
I mean, I'll definitely give attention to that.
But I think it's going to be somebody new.
It has to be.
It's also we're going to see a movement.
I don't get too far off stream.
We're going to see a lot with the midterms.
But you're already finding in the earlier elections in Illinois
that just happened this past week,
is that already the battle line is APAC.
Do you take money from APAC or not?
I don't think we're going to realize that.
And of course, APAC is using these funnel,
shadow organizations that are not called APAC.
They're creating all these small little organizations
that sound all maga, but they're actually APAC pseudonym,
what do they call it, foundations, whatever,
to funnel money in.
So now that's the next thing that people have to be aware of
is how APAC is making new organizations.
So it doesn't look like APAC is funding these candidates.
So I think APAC is, and the whole Israel deal
about who you take money from them or not,
is going to be the issue going into the midterms
and definitely 2028.
So it's going to be a whole new cast of characters,
I believe on both sides,
and a unification of many of the moderate Democrats
and the ex-maga, the true America first people.
I'm watching this online.
I'm telling this every week.
It's fascinating to watch this occur,
this reblending of the electorate,
and I guess it's time for that.
Whatever it turns into,
whether you or I personally like their views or not,
it's happening.
So that's going to happen.
So what I'm getting to with this is Joe Kent is,
and he hasn't said anything, at least so far.
I'm waiting for Tucker to ask him
if you're going to run for anything.
But man, he's got the looks.
He's the perfect age.
He's the next generation,
like J.D. Vance should have been.
The generation of my generation.
I guess you too, even though you're normal.
Even though I'm a what?
I mean,
they
are kind of...
Oh, you're breaking up, man.
We're losing you.
Where are you standing in your house?
It's...
Okay.
Not to make an aside,
but when they used to make movies
for comic books,
when they tried making comic book movies.
Yeah, I'm checking my
Starlink here.
It looks like it's doing good.
Yeah.
It's Frank.
Frank, you're moving out of your Wi-Fi.
You're, you know, prancing around outside.
You're doing something because, man,
I got 300 down and 60 up.
So it's you, man.
Yeah.
He went.
Well, while he's doing that,
I wanted to bring up, you know,
some stuff.
He'll come back in.
That's him, not me.
Joe Kent,
interview on Tucker Carlson
is at the top of the page now.
Another interview that I thought was interesting
that we have up next to it
is America Ready for War.
Now, this is Palmer Lucky,
the guy that did the
the face
oculus, oculus rift.
He stole for a couple of billion dollars
to
meta, you know, Zuckerberg
and took that money
and he started Andrew,
which is his own Andrew.
I think that was the sword
and Lord of the Rings.
And it is a defense
private contractor.
We're going to have low cost
whip your ass thing.
And then we had
maybe I got it at the bottom here.
We had it up yesterday
and it was a young guy
created
a surface to air
Stinger missile
for some ridiculously low price
97 bucks or something
that can track things
and it was, yeah, here it is
decentralizing defense.
I'm like, download this,
this will not be up that long
a 96 dollar
tank of gas
96 dollar guided rocket
just put precision warfare
into the hands of the people.
You want IEDs
from little Rocky kids,
you know, in the boots
on the ground invasion in Iraq,
you know, kind of,
what about surface to air missile
and this is just
and it says a point.
He goes, look, you know,
3D print this thing, then what happens?
California comes out and says,
Oh, no, no, no, no,
we got to have 3D printers
registered with the whatever
and you're not allowed to.
Now those of us that are old enough
to remember what this is like.
This was the Soviet Union
preventing
the use of printing presses.
Ideas.
Well, 3D manifestation
of ideas like defense
distributed Cody Wilson, the ghost
gunner, all this kind of stuff.
This is what they're afraid of.
All of this technology, all of these
engineers, all these scientists,
all these guys, well, hell, I can
just do it myself. Hell, I can
get a metal 3D printer.
Hell, I can get a CNC do kind
of the shipping container
which in fact is exactly what
they're doing. They are creating
3D manufacturing
prototyping, whatever
for any
whiz bang, gizmo
on the F-15 in the field of
a shipping container on the deck of
out in the desert of we can make it
our dam self instead of going through procurement
of months later if we're all dead
we can do it in the field.
We got computer geeks are
us, you know corporal
that's over there making stuff
and we're going to pay him extra.
This is what they,
those are afraid of is the
decentralization of everything
down to individuals
ninety
six dollar
surface to air
missile and it make their own
fuel. You know they just pack it
with, you know, you can go through
you know he went through in this
video of exactly
how he did it. I'm going to play
a few seconds of it, you'll see my
point, you know.
I'll just go like two thirds into
it.
BMP-180 barometric sensor for altitude
estimation and status indicators such
as LEDs and a buzzer for debugging
and system feedback. Communication
between the launcher and the rocket is handled
through an umbilical cord connections that
carries TX and RX serial lines.
Inside the rocket itself
is another ESP32 microcontroller
paired with an MPU-6050
inertial measurement unit
that provides. Now a lot of guys know what this geek
stuff is but I'll tell you a little
Arduino chip of whatever, you know
a raspberry pi was 35 dollars.
This probably has
less capability than that.
You know this is what they're
up against and they don't
understand, they don't know, they can't
they can't comprehend
the power of imagination
ingenuity, genius
and people that you piss off.
They just want to be left alone.
They can't.
That's what they're up against.
So I need, you know
one thing before, Frankie back.
Yeah, thank you.
Stay next to your Wi-Fi, it's you, not me.
So
this is JD
and Gabbard. Will they be the ticket
for 28? Is that what they're setting up for?
You know, is this what's coming?
You know what, that's actually
it's a good one. JD and
not that I think that's good
but I could see that as strategic
to have JD and Tulsi
to try to play that middle ground.
If that's what the strategy is, if they're
working with her, but I think she's lost her
credibility with it. I just don't see it.
Well, they're building up to it.
You know they go, well JD
wasn't so super excited about
Iran. You know, it's kind of why
would they release that? Why?
They're setting them up for 28.
You know, JD Vance
at center of stunning Iran war
rupture at their closed door
meeting with spy boss. Joe Kent
quit as Trump's director
of the National Counterterrorism Center
on Tuesday, accusing
Israel of pressuring the U.S.
into a conflict he says was built
on lies. Kent, a close ally
of Vance
and director National Intelligent
Tulsi Gabbard
presented his resignation letter
to the vice president 24
hours before
dramatically quitting.
Gabbard was also president at the meeting
according to the Washington Post.
A White House official said Vance
encouraged Kent to speak to White House
Chief of Staff Suzy Wiles
Gagme and Trump
before making any final decisions.
By that time he's already made the decision.
The VP encouraged him
to be respectful to POTUS
official added. Just hours later
Kent issued an
unsparing resignation letter
that claimed Trump had been
duped into striking Iran
due to pressure from Israel
and its powerful American lobby
adding, I cannot
in good conscience support
the ongoing war. Kent accused
the president of reneging
on the non
interventionist principles
he campaigned on blah blah blah
so I have not listened
to the
interview
that he did with
Tucker. Now
here we have
DNI Tulsi Gabbard
shuts down Joe Kent's
resignation letter claims
now this is, you know, her whole thing
I want to, you know, go to the
ex post that she did. This is the entire
post. Donald Trump
was overwhelmingly elected
by the American people
to be our president
and commander in chief.
As our commander in chief
he is responsible for determining
what is and is not
an imminent threat
and whether
or not to take
action he deems
necessary to protect
the safety and security of our troops
the American people
and our country. So
she puts it on him. We elected
him to be him to do this
you know, it's him.
By the way, you notice the word
it's factual. It's just factual.
Yeah, we voted
you know
you did. You know, the office
of the director of national intelligence
since 9-11
you know it's just part of that it's not
the office of the director of national
intelligence is responsible
for
helping coordinate and integrate
all intelligence
to provide the president and commander
in chief with the best information
available to inform his decisions.
Now that paragraph
has multiple
levels of interest.
She is
stating
the responsibility
of her
and that department
the office of the
director
Tulsi Gabbard
is responsible
for helping
coordinate and integrate all intelligence
to provide the president
with the information
available for making decisions.
Now what has been
her experience
central intelligence
NSA, FBI
nope you can't see it
you're not allowed
you work for me assholes
this is her
making this statement
she's going to look
my job, my office
as director
is responsible for helping coordinate
and integrating
all intelligence
to provide the president
why because they haven't been
you know you haven't come
they wow you don't need to know you have been
read in you're not level security
you know not allowed because
we say not allowed of course they got
an Israeli guy sitting there at the table
that's allowed but the president not
after carefully
reviewing all the information
before him
not her him
President Trump concluded
that the terrorist Islamist
regime in Iran
posed an imminent threat
and he took action based on that
conclusion
this is to say nothing about
nothing other than put the
responsibility on the people
you elected him
he was clear on this except he kept saying
we're not going to have a war with Iran
got a lot about that and then
you have that her office
was there to what
to coordinate all this intelligence
to give it to him
for him to take
the information available to inform
his decisions
well part of that information was BB
Netanyahu whatever hell he wanted
okay after carefully
reviewing all the information before him
President Trump concluded
so this is a
Trump thing
well who talked to him last
who was the most influential
I don't know
she doesn't say
so
she didn't throw
you know
the designer guy
you know under the bus
she didn't
blame anybody other than
we put him there
even though he said he wouldn't do this
her job is to make sure
he gets all the information
help coordinate
all intelligence
and that he made the decision
she's like hey
I'm washing my hands
that this is much I did my job
or as much as I could
and then cooperate
so why was it that this guy
goes over to where
where did he go
he goes over to
JD Vance
and he says hey man
you know
I don't want to
I'm doing this about that
so what did JD have
and they're setting him up
you know for
Joe Kent's campaign for
you know RFK Junior Tulsi
or Tulsi Junior
or JD Vance Tulsi
or JD Vance
RFK and some of the Republicans
are not letting this go
but why would they even want them
if they're not
deep state doing whatever the hell they want them to do
and was it the deep state
I keep hearing hey man
they held back
Trump on him always going
what's good are these nukes if we can't use them
I need a mushroom cloud
so I'm serious
oh they game that out
they're like whoa whoa
hell no
well they're trying to take that mantle on too
well we're not as crazy as Trump
so
JD Vance
Palantir
Peartiel
the tech bros
kind of sort of almost against
Warren Iran
Tulsi
RFK Junior
now Joe Kent
so I'm going this is multi layer
5th dimensional BS
bullshit of all the time
I don't care
it doesn't matter
because they're going to do whatever they're going to do
and the final result
is going to rest
with individual people
taking care of
themselves and isolating themselves
from the decisions of these assholes
as much as possible
because in the end
it's going to be
Chinese
Russian American
Zimbabwe
Congo
Brazil
people that are going to start directly
interfacing with each other
with encryption
crypto and on your
fucking business
eventually and always
now they're going to see it as a one world order
it's got to be managed
we've got to have a single currency
we've got to go with Sam Altman
and his globe world
crypto of retina eyeball scan
crap
that's what's coming
this is what Trump and family represent
this is what the banks and they them those
and you know
we're going to have a central bank digital currency
called
not a central bank digital currency
and they're going to get the same thing
so this is where
my focus is
on the future
we'll talk about it here in a little bit
there was I talked to
I keep thinking I did a show
it was really just like an hour conversation
but he's coming on Monday
Charles Goyette
just released his new book
he's been telling me about for a while
but now boom here it comes
it's been released
he's done Ron Paul's show
he's starting to do others
I wanted to wait until I got a chance to read it
he sent it to me
I've been reading it
Empire of lies is just all
the stacked up lies
you know certainly since Vietnam
and on
of them lying us
in the war an empire
of lies truth is treason
in an empire of lies
so the empire of lies
is all about the lies
that they tell to get us in the war
and the lies
how they use broadcast media
and this immersion
you know
therapy that they do
that Amaryllis Kennedy
arcade juniors daughter-in-law
married RFK
the third was a CIA
knock a spy
out of England Oxford I think
married a CIA guy
had little CIA babies
they got divorced married RFK third
became campaign manager
RFK junior
and October
before the 24 election
did a Tucker Carlson
interview where she goes
I recognize what's been going on
in the day that's long story
the bottom line was DARPA realized
that they could get
this mass formation psychosis
thing for lack of a better term
that they could get brainwashing
on people to do whatever as long as
they immersed them in
constant images and rhetoric and
slogans and kind of which is why
Bernays and you know Freud's
nephew and whatever this
propaganda public relations BS
that they would do to get
general public
opinion that I keep going on
about so what do they do
they immerse you
in this crap now there was
a I put it up here
we'll talk about it now
it was called planet
mind control
it was a documentary by
Jason Kristoff I highly
recommend it was sent to me by
10 dog one of the readers
of the clear independence telegram
and he put this up
and I kind of glazed over
missed it went back up there
it is and I watched it
oh my god
this was exactly
what Amarilis was talking about
CIA knock spy
campaign manager for
RFK junior wife
of RFK third
I mean on Tucker Carlson I mean come on
she got a little bit of credibility here
okay she's going
but this is weaponized
this brain
control this mind control
now you had
true stream media doing the same thing
minds of men that was what made them
famous minds of men
was their contribution to this
about MK ultra and all this guy is still
going on what they
demonstrated in this
was amazing
what they've been capable of doing
that they start off
with America's Got Talent
of some mind guy getting
Howie Mandel
to pick
time on a clock to get
the audience that was during COVID or whatever
they were all on zoom
hundreds of them up there
they all drew the same
picture and it's
how he got them to do it and they didn't
even realize they were controlled
this is how hypnotists do a lot of things
it says we are
machines
if you can hack the machine
and what Emeril us was talking
about there is a feature
primal in human being
of social creatures for us
to be with the tribe
it is baked subconsciously
in us and if you know how to trigger
that you can control
the planet
and I'm going to holy crap
general
public opinion so
what do we do
we're going yep and there it is
an hour and 36 minutes into this
Tucker Carlson Emerilist Kennedy
show you will see
and at the very bottom and I go and what's
our answer
Libertas dot earth
we are just about ready
we are ready to launch it Sunday
but we needed to finish up some stuff
the philosophy of liberty
one idea
54 languages
freedom for all
Charles Gouillette
is going to be one of the promoters of it
liberty international
students for liberty
a bunch of high pro
Karen Katowski on and on
a bunch of people
can school in Mary Ruart
a lot of libertarian friends
I kind of leaked this out
at the end of my presentation
here we go
and here's all the languages
I mean it's
50 something languages
and each one of those mid pages
are also on
IPFS so it can't be deleted
because we've done this before
and the Mossad
DDoS they come after us
I'm telling you we're
fighting them on their own
ground but
it can't be susceptible
to DDoS attacks
it can't be able to be deleted
or taken down
or de-platformed
because we created IPFS
for exactly
this fucking
reason
you guys want to play
you want one world government
I give you one world evolution
you want to play this is how we play
na na na
so
here it comes
we've yet to hard launch it
but it's all freaking in there
and ready
but I don't want any head of snake
it's not going to be
or anything it's not going to be
it's just promoter here's the hub
take it forward it in your favorite language
you know Dr. Frank
you know somebody in Japan
you know here's my thing
boom you know you go down
let's see we got Japanese
Japanese there it is
go Japanese boom
goes up
and you have it right there
in Japanese
na na na na na na
well they're still loading it up
here's a thumbnail Japanese videos
whatever let me see if it plays in Japanese
nope not yet
still that's what we're doing now
because we're putting them all up on
Facebook, Rumble, Odyssey
YouTube, Bitshoot
Brighteon
X
now the thing is the reason we're doing
YouTube is because
YouTube is our 10 can
they're just now so we just got the
site up and they're putting it up on there
but that is the one that they're first
one that they're going
to cancel I guarantee it
you know now Bitshoot
we got Bitshoot loaded first
now the reason we did Bitshoot
is because the owner of Bitshoot
got you know
cut off
Bitshoot cannot be played in the United Kingdom
and they're coming after them
so what did he do
he's like
we're going to
he moved to Dubai
he's like man I'm going to Dubai
and no no no Thailand
I think he went to Thailand
so here's all the languages that are down there
we got them already loaded on the IPFS
you see they're just
on this page Italian
Hebrew, French, Croatian
English, Bosnian
Arabic we had the one translated in Arabic
Thai, Ukrainian
Spanish I'm telling you
this is how we use
their technique
to combat them we are going
after them
using their techniques
this is how you do it
we are
nope nope nope nope
hell no we are going to
inundate the internet
from all directions
using the same
brainwash
mind control
propaganda, public relations
I have to buy every freaking broadcast
outlet, TikTok
Israeli, back, CBS
freaking Paramount
you know
and this is what our answer is
you want one world
government we're going to give you
one world
revolution
hello
what do you think I would do
what do you think
I was just going to sit on my butt
what do you think if I knew
that was my presentation
at an archipelago
what if
you knew
what they were doing
and how and why
what would you do
what can you do
if you were focused
on that
your entire adult life
general public opinion
how would you combat this
this is one of the ways
as an inspiration
to others
well I wanted to get that ran out
before the day was over
so I feel good
you feel better already
yes I do
because
man they pissed off the wrong guy
40 years ago
I'm in Washington D.C.
the national trade
data bank and the boss of the whatever
you know the
team 100 under
I can't remember these guys names now
I was back in the day at the scumbags
deep state they done those
I go when I meet
I finally from
Senator Deconcini here
the Democrat U.S. Senator
got me the meeting doing using
his fax machine
damn it I gotta meet with this guy
I go down there with my brother-in-law
there's now BP Moody's
in Manhattan
he was like a junior at Penn State
visiting Donna family during the holidays
between Christmas and New Year's
in 1989
or 90 I think
I go in young kid my early 30's
I sit down
that big giant low coffee table
round that he had in his office
his big office the hallways
in this freaking building
you could put a semi in
you go in there
I sit down nobody's around anywhere
everywhere it's between
Christmas and New Year's he's pissed off
having to come in meet with this damn kid
explained everything that I knew
what they were doing how
legislation that they did a constitutional as hell
and this and all I want
is access to this information
that you're getting
through the Census Bureau
from my tax
money funding all this trade information
that was supposed in the law
that anybody exporting like my father's
company and just tell a junior
high kid right in the report gets
and I want it and you're keeping it from me
when the charge like $8,000 to get access
I go bullshit
and I put the folder towards him and I said
I know what you're doing I want this information
and he didn't even look down at it
he kept the eyeball
eyeball pushed it back towards me
and he goes yeah kid
and what are you going to do about it
and seen
we're done
thank you
confirmation of I knew what you have tried
I was up against freaking evil
we're done
thank you for meeting me we're done
they were kind of surprised
got the answer I wanted
we walked to the front his office
through the reception area out the door
and stopped us at the door
was his aid that was there
and he was scared he knew what was going on
man he didn't have a get out of jail
free card he's like hey man
I'm not you okay well give me a call
if you
I got what I need it's all good
he was
afraid of something I don't know what
but he was afraid getting
something he knew some bad shit was going on
so then you go
okay they had a thing called team
100 team 100
was if you could raise a hundred
thousand dollars in campaign
donations to Herbert
Walker Bush you know
George daddy
for him running for president back in 88
they would make you
an ambassador or something give you a job
whatever that was the deal
and what was his name
Steve Mossbacher comes to mind
he was secretary of commerce
he was
the one that kind of you know
managed that whole thing and he was the one
that was behind all this new
order kind of America
we're doing daddy bush thing
well that was where my target
was and it went through its long
story you know I don't think
I know I know I've been through all this crap
you know like everybody's going through the
Trump administration who these people are like
you know scumbag he is
and what he's doing with stable coins
and how he's part of the
you know putting it into
central bank digital currencies or crypto
and Trump making a bunch of money in the deals
with Epstein of the blah blah blah blah
blah well I went through that crap
already you know back in
daddy but you think CIA
Mr. you know
George Daddy Bush
CIA director
ambassador to China
US trade whatever the hell the United Nations
part of the cover up
of the JFK assassination
do you think he wasn't
plugged in
he was the freaking you know
receptacle you know okay so I'm just going
and then his son takes over
and then Cheney and Rumsfeld
hell they were from the 70s
so I'm going
this really
you're still voting
so I
understood
it was always this
it was all the activism
I've done here in the state of Arizona
in the stuff that I was known for
then the Love Illusion
Love Bus Liberty tour
Libertas.Earth
what do they all have in common
first
timing it's got to be at the right time
it's got to be when everybody's
where the hell you been
and it's got to be
decentralized there can't be a head
there can't be a
the most we have on the page there's no database
there's no sign up
there's no subscription
there's no cookies
there's none of that crap
the only communication we will have
is maybe an email they're working on it now
and probably done
and a telegram
and the only reason and maybe comments
that I'm not looking at these platforms I don't care
that's going to be trolls and bots and I don't care
the only communication
is for the person
that is in Vietnam
that I got up there now
what are they doing
the Vietnam guy that created
the trifold
the PDF for a flyer
the hand out
Christmas card I did something
activist of thing
that we take that and add it to the mid page
on
Libertas.Earth for the guys
in that country to be able to do the same thing
this
this is how I
you want to know how the revolution took off
this
this is how it happened
it was having
I got to watch freaking commercials
but the uh
this is how we're doing it
again
and they go yeah but you could and you make a bunch of money
and you could this and you could that if you would
only and you didn't kind of
what that's not
the point
so here we go
are we going to be able to take
advantage of the internet
for us
of using all that time
that I spent with groc
was in support of this
can you help with this
can you yes
no you can't you liar okay I won't lie to you anymore
I can't but I will
and I in the future and we're kind of young
so will AI
be on our side
I don't know can it but we use it
now you can do it for videos
do it for memes
do it for graphics Aaron Day
has been doing that he's running
for us senate against the new new
in New Hampshire why
because he knows
that his campaign will be
enough to cause
the republicans not
to get the senate
oh
what does he want
release the crypto
release you know
in freeman release
a bunch of other guys they had
and Roger veer they made a
$48 million deal with
if he just shut up and threw it aside
well this is what is going on
behind the scenes
negotiation
fine
you want to negotiate with him run kind of
pressure to find
I don't negotiate
general public opinion
and it's going to take
the activists that I know
around the world
to forward this to use
it in its 8 minute video
real simple the whole
point of the philosophy of liberty
is that you own yourself and then it gives
some examples of whatever
life liberty property
but very
basic so I have a whole
list of things I just want to rattle
through regarding you know Israel
and you know Tucker
and Trump and things like that
I'll rattle through them quick but before I do
we throw it back to you have a question
I don't want to speak for him
but so if there's anything that's public
and your opinion where is
what do you think about with Charles go yet
obviously there's books and all and
you know him pretty well has he ever
publicly
discussed the Israel influence
on America in the past
and I'm saying and I'm just saying it's not
just about about about him but
just you know how much this has been
at least blatantly talked
about in Liberty circles
before it became quote
unquote acceptable in the last year
which we have to admit is a
is a seismic shift
that you know the
APAC Lobby and the Shapiro's have a
big problem with especially in
2028 I'll get to that later
but what has Charles and others talked about
in the past or publicly
what can you tell? He did not make it
a you know a campaign
you know that was not his stick
but
what happened was I remember
we were
doing
a show I was
producing for that Air America
now this is you know progressive liberal
lefty we were
token libertarian people
and so we had
in our contract they couldn't control content
so and they didn't control the archive
they didn't control you know
you want us over here this how it's
going to be get over it
well they took that they go oh yeah yeah yeah
whatever then they were like whoa whoa whoa
you guys are against entitlements
you're against government head you're against
and you're against uh yeah
well we thought you were liberal
terrians you know
man you guys don't get it
so but as time went
on they you know come to respect
us and after every
show the station
manager Bob Christie
I remember he was big in the
big corporation that own
bunch of radio stations and this
was his passion project and Phoenix do
this we would go outside
and he and I
would smoke a cigarette I'd get
us out all right stop my cigarette
you know because I knew I had that
three five minutes of smoking that cigarette
yeah yeah I would give
the download that's what you did
you get the board ops you get
some of the sales guys you know
I don't really that working
is the smoking alley right
I don't smoke you know but
you know I've been known to have a
cigarette every now and then well
this is what I did you know
Charles it go God you out there
smoke I go yeah you want to know
what I heard while I was smoking with
the board off the sales guy the other
you know what you want the Intel
right I thought okay
so this is how
and how we got him to start
coming around it was lost
rights was a book written by
James Beauvard which is a good friend
of mine lives you know in Maryland
near DC and that lost rights
book he's like damn
and it was very similar
you know come to think of it
and kind of the idea behind
Empire of Lies that Charles
just released now Empire
of Lies is published by the Libertarian
Institute of Scott Horton
because you know the publisher that touches
kind of thing and it's doing well
you went on just did we had the show
up he did with Ron Paul well hell
you know that's going all over the
place and Ron Paul's America
which was a you know like
a hundred and something stations they were on for a while
was
Hakoho said like he does with you know
Daniel McAdams it was Ron Paul
and Charles Goyette
so that went on for a while
so then they had you know go internet because
they are not going this is what
happened because we were going so much
against John McCain before he ran
for president in the 08
they had people
just like the Libertarian everybody doesn't believe it until
now when you get all the
Israelis and Ellison whatever
buying up all the broadcast media
they bought the station
we were on for three times
what it was worth to get us out
of a contract and off the air
this is how they do it because they knew
we were going to slam the crap in this home
state on McCain we were
doing a good job of slapping them around
now with Israel
Charles wasn't shy about it
if it come up and he didn't look to insert it
just to you know piss off everybody
and target but
he didn't shy away from it
the vice president
for the Zionist of America
that I did on my
Jewish owned
KXAM radio station
out of Scottsdale that I did the morning show
when I first started doing radio
was like well you're
against 4 and 8 even for Israel
hell yeah
well you need to interview absolutely man
no even resistance bring them on
so I got this Scottsdale attorney
that would come on my show
he was
Zionist of America VP
give your spiel man let's do it
so I'd interview him
so with Charles I said I got
just a guy for ya boom
he comes on to my regular basis
probably two three times
to make his case so Charles is not
the Jews did it and if they didn't do it
they're going to do it and we got to go after
whatever and death and destruction
that wasn't his stick
it was just freedom to answer what's the question
you know economics gold you know whatever
and foreign policy
shouldn't be taken from
poor people and you know
rich countries to rich people in poor countries
I mean kind of thing so
no he didn't
emphasize it all the time
but he wasn't shy about making his position
clear he definitely
not for this war in Iran
definitely not about our foreign
policy being that whatever
is best interest to Israel
definitely not you know looking for
some handout
or going to save the economy with some more
authoritarianism or some crap like that
okay all right well look
now I appreciate it and when you talk to Charles
just tell him I said yo he knows it's
for me when I say that
so look
a number of points that are about
topical but before I get into
you know
Kent and Trump and all this stuff
some just and some riffing off of what
Ernie talked about and I appreciate it
I want to just talk about
Iran and culture for a minute which is
the C word that Ernie this time
Ernie might actually be able to put up with it a little
bit I sent a video to Ernie
a week or so ago and
and it's okay I know Ernie I sent a few
videos I try not to send much stuff
to you but stuff so crazy now
and sometimes I'm like I'm like
my fingers twitching I really
I really want to send it to him but I know
if I do well be sparing but I do watch
what you said and I do appreciate
I do appreciate and respectfully I know
how much I mean it's I'm
you know just be able to send something
which means I get to send something to him that
that is true and we have a tip for
that I do watch it I'm
by the way just for the record because
the Ernie our whole family's in the
Firefly so I'm just telling you
oh I heard Firefly they're thinking of
having they're doing a redo of Firefly
did you hear about that it's an animated
series is that what it is okay
because they're all busy doing
stuff but they can do an animated series
yeah fill out the time between the end of
Firefly and serenity of serenity
oh wow that's cool
so they get to bring back wash and book
and all that stuff Ernie's already on top
of it alright there we go I just watched a thing
this morning and announced that some
Comic-Con thing well
you know what your geek cred still stands
up I'm proud of you
hey by the way did you get
that other email I sent sorry to a sorry audience
but there is the first time
ever the all cost
the all cast autograph
signing is going on right now every
cast member that's alive
is doing a signing so I was
gonna try trying to get Ernie to
whatever you can sign a license plate
a t-shirt like the whole
who who the whole cast
is signing they're doing
an autograph for Firefly
for Firefly yeah yeah the first time ever
they're all together I know Ernie doesn't give a crap
but anyway maybe I'll make that your special present
alright so anyway the thing is the culture
I sent Ernie
Peter definitely would appreciate that
who? Peter
oh he's into that too I didn't realize
oh big time Firefly
oh wow I got him a leather bound
all the scripts of the whatever
bang you know yeah what do you get
a gazillionaire I mean you know
you know exactly we'll have to think of that
for him anyway so as far as
with I sent Ernie a video
that Savard and I watched
it was a beautiful video so
really we enjoyed it was like an hour and a half whatever
which I know was a lot of time for Ernie
he was busy but it was about
I ran it was a documentary
it was done about 12 years
ago I watched it oh you did
you know we never had to chat about it well thank you
so so definitely we'll
comment on it but it was it was
about 10-12 years ago so it was
it was away from
the current you know political
infowar bubble that we're dealing with right now
so and and and to be
fair it was
government controlled right he had
a guy walking around exactly
when I was in China
I was in China and Mongolia back
in the 90s and we had a
person assigned to me and I
drove him crazy he actually went
like drinking because you know he didn't realize
I was like Libertarian F and
he was assigned to me and I would just like
take off and do things and he was running
after me all the time like oh no
you know a young man
that's good friends of
you know Peter and you know myself
and so on that he visited
he lived in Shanghai for a while
to recently because you know it was bad
right and um
he went to North Korea
and he sent me
a postcard and the postcard
I'm like I get this postcard from North
Korea one you might as well
make it a postcard because they're going to open it anyway
you know so he sent
the postcard and it says
oh Ernie I'm having such
a great time
in North Korea are
great leader
Kim Young grandson whatever
whoever it was his dad or him I can't
remember you know he was on the hill
it's great and it's awesome
the meetup he has it's I mean
I'm like okay I get it you know
so he knew that
he couldn't just tell me what's
going on there he just wanted to send me a postcard
from North Korea but it was
a flowery
endorsement of North Korea which means
not you know so
there's that so you're getting
oh no no it was probably because I was there
in the 90s and a lot of you guys don't know but I
I was not
I don't want to say professional I guess
pseudo professional inline skater
I used to teach inline skating
way before people even really knew about roller
blades it was like the first years that
came out and I actually
Ernie doesn't even know this I used to write for
inline skating magazine
so I was like I was well I was
a contributing
person so like when I would travel around
the world I would
take pictures and show them
you know and talk about what it's like to
skate in England or Russia
or places and just it was
trust me I was really good back in my day
I was in Tiananmen Square
oh yeah that's right I told you
I was in Tiananmen Square and I actually
hung on to rickshaw's going
around and I didn't realize that I was
told later I could have been arrested
because I was skating in
the bike lane that goes around
the whole Tiananmen Square there's this huge
bike lane and of course you know
I had my skates I would always get off the
subways or the trains and
instead of taking a taxi I'd put my skates
on I had a compass that would attach
to my glove and then I would
use a map and I had a little mirror
on my glove like I was all like
you know all like rigged up and all back
in the day and I would at the time
I had to use I had to use the bike
lane because I you know I could skate as quick as
bikers would well it turns out
I didn't realize this that the law
was only bicycles are out in bicycle
lanes but of course they had never
seen an inline skate like I was one
of the first people in America to have one
and and all of a sudden I'm in China
and I'm in the bike lane
I'm speed skating around
Tiananmen Square and I had
I had all these like taxi cabs
driving past me with people
taking pictures I'm like why is it you
know it was crazy and then the police
were like driving next to me and they'd look at me
and I didn't realize that of course
they're looking at me watching me and
then I guess they didn't know what to do
with me because there wasn't a law against inline
skating they didn't you know plus I'm with some
white guy they looked at me I thought they
were going to arrest me and they both looked
and they put gave me the thumbs up look
they gave me the thumbs up I'm like all right
cool you know they let me ride around
how tall are you Frank you're like
six five eleven I've never hit six man I'm
still working on it
really I thought you were taller
thank you
tells you how short I am
like five eleven
everybody I know is taller than I take pictures
I'm like God did I shrink or something
what the hell
I just keep it's like five eleven is the worst
because you're like just one inch away to be
a real stud but anyway
yeah exactly I'm not
well you're tall in China that's for sure
oh my god when I lived in Japan
no no no like any white dude out there
listening to me right now when you're in Asia
and I lived with the Japanese for a year
and man I had like bumps on my head
because especially if they give you a bunch of
sake because in order to be personable
they always try to out drink you right
so they give you sake when I was in
Mongolia they gave me stuff that would take
the chrome off a trailer hitch and I was
like oh my god you know I was younger
I didn't even drink back then
and I they would they would always you know they were trying to be personable
and and they're all excited
there's an American there they would always
try to impress you with drinking and then
I'd get up and then I would
forget to keep ducking
and I would just keep hitting my damn head
on every doorway or every
every time you went to the bathroom you bang
your head I'm telling you it's a thing
when you're a white guy but anyway
so so the thing is this culture
is yeah that's why I bring it up on this
show a lot I have to tell you for any
of you listening if you have an opportunity
to truly live overseas
not just visit the hard rock cafe
in England that doesn't
count but I mean if you really get to
I know it's hard in our older
age but if you have children or
grandchildren I can I'm telling
you this is the best advice
I can give anyone listening to me you do
anything that you can
to get your children or grandkids
to spend at least six months if not a year
overseas make that your
goal because it doesn't matter where but
someplace where they don't speak English
you have to do that
and the riches that
come back and the
you know the
I guess the goals
and they
come back from that is just unprecedented
it affects your life
you see the world differently see America different
and I think it enriches you in ways that
you can't you can't even put
you can't even say that a gazillion times
you can't even point to well because it's that
important but anyway so I sent
Ernie this video on Iran
and
thanks for watching it I do know it was a little
bit propaganda wise because the guy that
went he was kind of a softy but you know
what he did a good job he was allowed
over this thing was probably a decade or two
old yeah it was like 12 years old
and but it was filmed well it was
digital it was high high resolution
so it looks great on a 4k TV if you
have it but he went there and he was one
of the few people allowed
fairly good access
he was a nice older
great David Attenborough kind of guy
yeah yeah yeah David Attenborough it was
just like one of those videos right so don't expect
any there was nothing political it was just
basically somebody getting behind
the veil it's like going to North
Korea have paved roads
it was like someone going to
North Korea in this case I ran
just showing you know just a daily
life yeah because we we see
we hear about Iran in North Korea and
the minute you hear about it you hear
that you're the political side adversarial
and the threats and look at the weapons
and they're not playing along with us
and you know whatever you get into the
political if you even know about it but
the thing is these people to have their
own lives to them and this is key
in their world
this is all normal
okay this is a they find a
normality now before anyone
says what do you mean
sharia law you think that's normal you know
having women forced to put something on their
head and blah blah well you know
yes there's always going to be people
who think differently but the majority
this is their
culture and it makes
sense to them and I know
it it sounds like just an excuse
but it's not it's like
these things all come together
and and like like certain things
might make not not make sense but other
things do and they find a way to
make it work for them
if it was that overtly
oppressive and evil they would
have a revolution anyone would
that's called humanity when
humanity hits that breaking point
they break but if they're not
breaking and this is what the trump
administration others having a problem
with like we we told you guys
this is your time man revolt
you know we're we're doing you a favor
man we're doing you a plus here
and then they're not doing it and then they don't understand why
and now they have new excuses now
the new excuses because they're in a war
and they have bombs dropping on them
that's the reason that
there's not a revolution so before
the bombs are dropping they didn't
understand why they didn't revolt now they're
saying they're not revolting because of the bombs
so maybe maybe they're fairly
happy with what that where was where
they're at I know that sounds like
Iranian propaganda but
if from someone who lived over
propaganda they didn't give a crap if they
overthrew or not or what they're going to do
whatever hell they wanted to do but so
anyway so that yeah exactly
so so I want to give just one quick
example of
of kind of this
this concept where Americans
get caught in their own world and they have
sometimes a hard time seeing things
from another point of view and now
for long-term listeners of the
show you've probably heard me
say this before also if you're a
long-term listener of the show
I have empathy
and pity for you to be honest
but with that
with that aside I've talked about
the issue with
Asia and my
and what happened with the
the
the changes under Clinton
with the what was that
the
the law that he passed the
the
it was
the result
it was the law that Clinton passed
at the time for
the unification
oh my god it was
allowing outside countries
fair trade agreement
thank you it was like towards the
end of his administration and so
he was he was basically saying
look we're going to allow you into
our fair trade group
but we have we have a
stipulation here which is
political on his end and that was
that he had
to the China had to agree
to stop
allowing Chinese
children from
working at basically
they agreed that they termed
it as sweatshops right so when
children under the age of 18
are working in factories and places
right so they were saying that that
was that was child abuse
and all of this and and we will work
oh most favorite nation status
that's what it was it was the most
favorite nation status there were
concern allowing China in
there was a lot of negotiation around this
I'm sorry that's what that's what it was
we don't need the kids we got you guys
so they're like they're like hey
but so Clinton and you know it all
you know understanding Clint he's a democrat
and the liberals are all about you know
child protection and at least in theory
we won't talk about Epstein's Island
for child protection let's not go there
but but you know it was all about
let's let's let's let's take care of the kids
and you Chinese you know we want
to we want to let you into our club
but you're just not as sophisticated
as we are you just
you guys you think you are you're getting
close yeah you got nukes yeah you've
got an army yeah you've got
technology but you just are not
as sophisticated as
we are because look at how we treat our
children the children
which of course is the the oldest
trick in the book
that politicians use in America
which is it's for the children if you
want to get a bill through no matter how bad the
bill is all you got to do is tack on
at the end it's for the children
you're not they don't want men or
shift they don't want internship they don't
want trade school they don't want
going after school and learning how to
machine or do it and actually
have a trade or be able to be productive
or do something by the time you're
18 or do it when you're 14
15 16 you got to be a farm
kid that they hire
from the farm to be able to know
how to weld or freakin put a bolt
on you know this is you know
they didn't do us any favors this was
the unions this was we need
more like we need to limit the pool
the same thing they do with licensing
for doctors the same thing they do
with all kinds of other stuff
it's control it's not freedom
freedom is the answer what's the
question it permeates
everything so so that
was the issue with with with how
they how America was framing
it as if we had the the moral
high ground and China said
they turned around and
they said who
that F are you
people how dare
you sit there and tell us
that we're not allowed that we're not
sophisticated we can't be in your club
because how we treat our children
our children are fine thank you
they're sitting there they're in schools
our crime rate is lower than
you people we don't have the drug
problem with our children our kids
are working and helping support their families
but you know and they're smarter than
your children and they're smart and but you know what
we're gonna go one step further
and the step further is
you people
you're gonna dictate to us how we treat
our children why don't
we look at how you a-holes
treat your elderly
because you people
take your elderly and you
throw them in senior homes
you sit there you take your parents
who raised you who took care
of you and then you charge them
rent in order to live with
you again rent
and then you kick them out
and then they have to live on their
own and then you put them in senior
centers and you put them in hospitals
where they just lay in a bed with a bed
pan and they die and you just don't
even visit them
like the way that they
not to mention in Asia when I was
in Japan I would do every morning
I would watch of course like good morning Japan
you know whatever they had their version of the show
and you would have
there was this old
couple it was a it was twins
it was the Japanese sisters
they were identical twins and they were
like a national icon back in the day
they were a hundred and two years old
these these these female
twins and every morning
you get an update of the twins
you know about what they're eating and there was
this really cute they called it they called
them a okasans
okasans and they were like
like grandmothers
and you know it was very
interesting to see them
but I have to tell you as a white person
I didn't realize until I
saw them how unusual it was
to see very old
people on television
on morning TV
Willard Scott you guys remember Willard Scott
he was the old weather guy on
like good morning America whatever
yeah yeah yeah I think
no he was the white guy he was the white
he was kind of a big retunned white guy
Willard Scott and and he
said back in the 1980s and 90s
and he would do this
he would do the weather and then he would
he would do a segment where
he would say happy birthday
to people who were over a hundred
send their pictures in right well he
used to do that happy birthday to Matilda
from Kansas you know a hundred and two
whatever and he eventually
got told not to do that
because whenever he did the segment
they loved Willard Scott but when he
started putting old people
on pictures of old people
with wrinkles and baggy arms
and whatever the ratings
would go down people would tune out
because people don't want to see old people
in America they want to see young
20-year-olds they actually
told him to stop
doing it and he did because of the
ratings and so this is
kind of an example of American culture
where we want to see young and sexy
in the minute and not if nothing else
that's the crime demographic
you know for marketing materials
but yet in Japan you see
it's amazing when you're there you don't
notice it until you see it
is how many elderly you see
they would have a game show
where they would have
the contestants or like
the judges were all
70-80-year-old
professors from Kodai
and Kodai that's their version
of Harvard and Yale so they
would have like these top professors
be the judges on their shows
they were not sexy they were not
you know hip
they were just smart and respected
and it's like you don't know
until you see it you see the contrast
so anyway not to belabor it too much
but that it's
it's how they respect
the elderly also like
in America we talk about
progress you know if a house
or a building is over 100 years old
that's too old we got to
knock it down progress
we got to put something new in
when I was in Japan I'd be walking down
downtown Kyoto and there'd be
like you know some buildings
that were 1000 years old
that was just wasting space
well anyway so then
there's a quick story of my friend
who I went to school with
he was from Korea
and I told this story in the past
it's worth repeating
he said Frank we had a debate
about we had a debate about this
thing about elderly
and this and that and he's the one
that explained this to me the best
and he shoved up my butt so I'm going to share with you guys
he said Frank he said look
it was like me arguing
with Ernie Hancock to be honest
I used to be an Ernie back in the old days
sorry buddy
and I was like arguing with him about
hold sure no are you kidding me freedom
and this and that and that he goes Frank
he was like let me explain this to you
because he was right from Korea
he was an exchange student before I went
before I went to Japan
so I didn't understand this until
before I went there and he said Frank
let me tell you
here's an example imagine
that you come home from work
whatever and your home is on fire
it's burning down
and you have your mother
and your daughter in the house
and you only have enough time
to save one who would you save
and and of course
you know of course I said my daughter
and he says of course
I lose you
and I'm
losing him
Frank you're walking away from your Wifi again
yep and there he goes
this is one thing that I wanted to insert anyway
and it's like I did it on purpose
the
when he talks about culture
and these differences
it depends what your goal is
if your goal is to respect the elderly
respect this to do that
why
what is the morality of the country
what is their goal
the government what do you say you do here
the emperor the sovereign
the monarchy the king
whatever
those that have access
to the pulpit
those that have access
to whatever
they want to push what they want to push
what do they want to push
in America
what they want to push in America
is whatever serves them
the excuse of for the children you know whatever
the point is is that
you got to find out what it is
that they're pushing
and why
if it's for the children
a lot of times it's because they don't want competition
with kids
they don't want the questions
they don't want the open mind
they don't want the
stop lying to me
or serve my future interest
you don't need to know that
high school up to 18
you're not learning
they even had special classes
in my high school I've had a balance of checkbook
I mean as if that wasn't like
it should be standard material
know what standard is your pronouns
I mean so this is
you know what is the goal
who's in charge of that goal
who's printing the textbooks
who's getting paid for the books
the Department of Education approving of
you're allowed the FDA and the CDC
of what vaccine you got to have
and can't and changing the schedule
and judges stopping
putting a moratorium on you're not allowed to change
even though you're the guys that are supposed to change
and we're not
we canceled the meeting of you
redoing the schedule
what do you say you're doing here
so all the culture
thing I'm not against having the culture debate
what I am about
is that what
culture
you can't label it the American
culture is
about
melting pot is about
the proper rule of government defense of individual liberty
the culture of you get to say
what you want
the culture of you get to buy
sell trade
freedom is the culture
how you wrap it or what headdress
you wear well holidays you celebrate what beer you drink
I don't
freaking care
the culture of America
is freedom
Iran was that culture
now they had you know a CIA
place to scumbag shop
authoritarian we rule whatever the hell
thing but what if they're
really embraced freedom
and the competition to that
authoritarian rule
where the people get to pick somebody else they might want to rule
well the democracy
in Iran
you know is it as good
better worse than America
compared to what
where is the freedom
quotient where is the self ownership
where is what do you say
the philosophy of liberty is
that's where we're
in certain ourselves that is because
of Frank going on about this culture
thing all the time I'm going
look I need to instill
mass formation
psychosis of
freedoms about your damn self how about that
you know so that
is what we're competing with on
here so all this conversation
about culture
what culture
so first of all sorry
for the audience and for Ernie
watch it away from your wife
yeah I know I have a full signal
each time I don't know what I honestly
have no idea what's happening I've been doing this
for years and suddenly I'm in
the same location today and we're
having a problem so who knows so I
apologize but I don't really understand why but
with that said I was right at the punch
line and of course my phone went out
so the idea of my friend was saying
is like if you come home
and you save one obviously
Americans save the mother
because I'm sorry the daughter
she hasn't lived her life but the Asians
in general would save
the mother and the idea
was is because
you only have one mother
you could always have
more children
that is not why no no no
I'm just telling you that's what they were telling me
and look I'm
not saying that every Asian thinks that
let alone Asians in America
say this and I never challenge you on this
no I want to ask
you a question
what do you mean oh you said this a billion
no well no I know you've heard it
I'm just saying a lot of the audience as it
oh yes I have
so this is what I want to bring up
challenge me and then let me
still continue my point
you're gonna let me finish
my point though after you ask a question
alright go ahead ask your question go
the reason
that you have culture they go the mother
alright
the reason that America
go the children
alright
why and you say
culture uh huh
why is that they're
nobody else why anymore
why is that their culture
why is that our culture
because we have been
inundated either by
religion
preference of
the sovereign
preference of the deep state
preference of the academia
preference of you know
the media preference preference preference
which I'm saying that they always go
the children and a friend of mine
Greg Tibnan he's a farmer in Missouri
now he goes like this first
we kill all the children
and I'm like what and he goes
man if it's always for the children my
enslavement we'll kill all the children
and I can be free
I mean of course he's being sarcastic
but the point that he was making
is they keep saying for the children
why to take away
our freedom to take away
our options to take away
the future being educated
being experienced being in
the workforce being mentored
being interned
they're telling us and it happened to Donna and I
when we had our family restaurant
we had a pizza restaurant
sandwiches we were whatever
so we had our children they worked there
after school after football
game softball did that whatever
on the weekends they would do
whoever wanted to do it work the weekend
they'd run it and make money whatever
we got a visit from
uh
Wagen Price or whatever the hell it was
you know the department of labor
of federal role
the guy happened to be
a member of the church that we went to
and he was like and I go whoa
whoa whoa whoa wait a minute
he goes don't you think there are
the law is that if they're your children
child labor laws don't apply
it's like on a farm
a whole Chinese family at the Chinese
restaurant you know whatever it does
not apply if they're your children
or grand children
so I'm going no they're my kids
and then he came back with
well don't you think that
whoa whoa whoa whoa freaking
whoa
are you as a representative
of the federal freaking government
that goes to my you go to my church
are going to tell me
how to raise my children that's what
you're going to do that's what you're saying right now
is that what you're going to tell me how you think
that's going to go over fellow Christian
so eventually he just
went away and it kind of went away after he's
threatening you know Donna with a rest
because she wouldn't answer his questions because I wasn't there
yet I came in see him
yelling at her
shut this place down whoa whoa what the
shit you know and I had a
little personal pain waiting on me
and I can sit down get my drink okay
let's talk about it what's up
well she wouldn't dare go she had way more
to worry about
from talking to a fed when I'm not
there then whatever
you're going to do I guarantee you that
so Donna did her job
wait until my husband gets here I'm not talking to you
so that
culture
was instilled through a government
coercion force
of a clipboard coming into my business
tell me how to raise my kids
where did that culture
come from
come from coercion it come from
influence it come from intimidation
the exact same
thing that comes from other countries
and their culture
that was created by what
it came from the pulpit it came
from the great leader of
you know from the
podium of this how you do
it because I say
so when you're talking about culture all the time
I'm like whatever
I don't care I want the culture
of freedom that used to be
here and they're beating it out of
us over the last century
so you're going okay
what culture am I looking
for what culture has
been created why
why why
why was it created
to support who
or what you go back
biblically you back
you know Jesus time of you know
gazillion wives and the gazillion kids
and I guarantee they were home schooled
and learning how to something
so it's the culture of what
the people that run
the country that had the most
influence that had the most
television stations
that has the most radio stations
that has the most magazines
newspapers youtube channels
they're the ones that are
creating the culture that's the point
never toss
daughter
okay well
look Ernie can you still
hear me you still there
all right so so look
I'm not trying to trigger you over
the freedom of American culture I never talked
about America I'm talking about Iran
I'm trying to bring up Iran
and I'm trying to bring up
the blindness that
all cultures have
often about other cultures
and how it affects their politics
look I'm just
so I'm not
I'm not trying to get that whole thing of well
it's got to be freedom because that's Ernie's version
of American culture and look
it's not because Ernie's
I agree with him I know Ernie has a hard time
like hearing that part he keeps thinking I'm
arguing against freedom I'm not
but there's two separate things there's
what I personally want in my
culture just like it's what
I want in my household I run
my household it's my own personal
culture in my house just like
every one of you listening to me right now
has your own culture in your house
how not just whether you have
Christmas or not but how you celebrate
Christmas I mean I mean I mean
you know I don't want to get to
spell it I don't
I don't get to pedantic on this
but you know there's an age old issue
do you know how many of you listening
right now do you do your Christmas tree
before Thanksgiving
do you do it right after
Thanksgiving or do you decorate the
Christmas tree on Christmas Eve like
like a lot of people do I mean these
are you're all we're all
dependent on what the Homeowner Association says
what's that it depends
on what the Homeowner Association says
you know how to put your Christmas tree up
before Thanksgiving
exactly the Homeowner Association
so I mean you know I'm just saying
like we all think we're all the same
we're Americans or Christians and
freedom and all this and yet you know
a lot of us would go down to the mat about
when you do the decorations and you know
when your kid marries another kid from
another family all of a sudden that
becomes an issue you know like these
these simple things that you take for
granted and you know like
exactly so I'm just I'm
kind of talking about it in that perspective
I'm not trying to lock down
for now Ernie we can save our
you and I our war about American culture
later that's not what I'm talking about
I'm talking about just about humanity's
culture yeah but what's humanity
I mean it's like
when I'm going to ask you a question
I don't want to sound like a leftist
but there is a point
about relativism
and that is overused with
the left like anything goes
but there is relativism
about culture people's
cultures you don't realize
how you're just part of it this is why I'm
trying to bring this up of what my friend
talked about is when he's saying
that they would go with
the elderly over the children
you know it's something that sounds
offensive to Americans they can't
wrap their head around it but it's a
mindset that permeates
everything like I was hinting at
you know in America with something
100 years old you knock it down
it's progress whereas
in Asian cultures
they idolize things from the past
they don't care if it's high property
values and you're wasting your
property value look it's
downtown Tokyo look how much money that's
worth they don't care about that
to them it's about history
and prodigy
and so there's just a different
mindset that permeates things
you don't think about like having
100 year old people
on good morning Tokyo and we don't
know why I care what's that
and why so
you never had nobody ever answers why
what do you mean why
it's one thing leads
to the other one thing leads
how is it you have 100 year old
on good morning wait
just ask yourself your answer
in your own question why is it
that Willard Scott was told
to shut down having
you know happy
birthday to 100 year old the
ratings are bad but in Japan
every single morning in the
morning wasn't you know we had old
people's saggy skin and
the game shows all over
so just you know I mean I mean you
might think well who cares about a game show
and good morning whatever but it's
just one little tiny
part of this issue about culture
of the interest of the money
what do you mean the money
culture was crafted
so that they could have higher
ratings for advertisers
to charge more money
why else
so I ask you this question
go go ahead go ahead
what is
the foundational
basic
culture
of humanity
where does it overlap
that you can find
the same
interests
around
the world in general
I'm sure there's always outliers
to where people
have more in common
with each other
than governments do
what
is that foundational truth
or culture
that they keep
emphasizing to justify
polite society
getting along with your neighbor
both for me because I believe this
you know that we all agree on
what are those
commonalities
so
first off I just have to say
I have such a huge Joker grin
just
parting with Ernie in the morning and having these debates
I gotta say I love you Ernie even though you're wrong a lot of times
that's okay but I still love you
no but seriously it's a great question
I would say
in all sincerity if you boil it down
I think for every culture
at its foundation
it's the children
and I hate to sound like Bill Clinton about that
but I think it's the children
even though and I'm not discounting
the Asians as if they're not
and trust me they're not obtuse to this
but I think
if you don't take care of the children
or the culture that gets
passed on to the children
I mean you don't have any children
then there's nothing there
and that's kind of what a lot of feminists left this
in America are figuring out but I digress
but it's like if you don't
if you don't have that down
then I think everything else
what about the children
it's
I just say if you're asking me
what is one foundational
element of humanity
of culture that unifies all of us
I would say it's
whatever it is I don't want to get into the details
the details don't matter right now
no it doesn't
the details don't matter
it comes down to
is making sure that the children
propagate
that's it
as long as the children propagate
now and again
this is a loaded issue to me
that's the answer
this may not bode well for you
because then just hear me out
just bite your lip for a minute
quickly please
or go to the bathroom
for a minute
let me give you an example
you can help the children
with cultures that are both
100% Ernie Hancock
freedom the way he sees freedom
or
you can have
government control over a culture
and both of them
could be best or good
in their own way for the children
and let me just give you an example
that's right here in America
so on one hand
you can say
I think it's best for freedom for the kids
to do whatever they want
it's like hey if they want to
basically take kitty cats
and put them on a catapult
and throw them against the cactus
you know if the fact that they can do that
if they want
is the best for my children
because it means that if they can
destroy kitty cats and kittens against cactuses
it means underlining that
is that they're able
they have the freedom to do whatever they want
to express themselves
to live the life in which they want
to protect themselves
their progeny
this is what they're able to do
I'm not trying to speak for Ernie
God knows he can do it for himself
but I think that's in a nutshell
how a diehard libertarian would look at it
is that the idea
of killing kittens on a cactus is not to kill kittens
because Ernie Hancock actually has a soft heart
he's really softy I don't want to tell anybody else
but I mean he really cares
but it's the concept underneath that
and so that is
his version of freedom
and there's nothing that would change him from that
and God knows I've tried
that's okay but on the other hand
let's look at the other example
of freedom or lack of freedom
and what's good for the kids
or what could be good for people
right here in America
and that is, and this is factual
this is from University of Pennsylvania
the only university
in America that has a PhD
a program
for the science
this is not quackery
what I'm about to tell you, Ernie's heard this before
the science of happiness
happiness studies
I've given speeches on this
and many of you if you want to get the information
why are you a government institution
tell me what makes me happy
it's allowed for free
if any of you are interested
it's the University of Pennsylvania
the science of happiness studies
that it is all the information
data is for free and they do this on purpose
it was created or started
in 1999 or 2000
by a very famous psychiatrist
who was head of the entire
psychological association of America
good or bad
his name is Dr. Seligman
well I'm just trying to
lay the pipe that I know I'm talking about
on this issue, I'm not just throwing this out
and so if you're interested
check it out and basically
in the science of happiness
this is not whom by ah pillow talks
you know a workshop
they basically 50%
of happiness is genetic
we know that from twin studies
but the other 50%
is how we deal with resilience
how we deal with other issues
okay and how much
community do we have
and this sort of thing
well anyway
as far as far as
oh jeez what I was talking about
with the happiness
ah Ernie kill me here
alright my turn
I'll remember
I remember
the happiness studies are very important
about this but go ahead
real quick let me take it back after you
go ahead
this is my point I want to get to the freaking
news
the other stuff I want to talk about
we always get bogged down on this
but it's an important
but it's not just about culture Ernie
the whole reason I'm bringing this up
all I did
is I sent this video to you about Iran
and the whole point though
was just for Americans to see
how it is in another country
the country we're bombing
and let's skip to the end version
which is that Americans
have this mindset that we
have it right and everyone else
doesn't understand it
the thing with the happiness study
I remember what it was
the happiness study was that
it's also about control
how much control do you have in your life
and it turned out that
Russia, Russians had low
happiness studies or scores
even though they had refrigerators
they had cars, they had money
but they were low on the scale
whereas people from Africa
in particular the
bushmen of the Kalahari desert
they made a movie about it called the gods must be crazy
many of you guys have seen it
they have nothing they're walking around with one claws
and spears you know
and they're grabbing water from
and they're mesmerized by a coke bottle
that got dropped from a small plane
douché, douché
and yet the reason they made that movie
was because of the very study that I'm talking about
is that these Kalahari bushmen
were the happiest
people on the planet
when they finally did this
worldwide international study
to say it's like 20 years to do
they're like wait a minute
these people in the desert with nothing
are happier than Hollywood moguls
with like Lamborghinis
and you know and raping women
and the like Weinstein and all of this
I mean how is that they're so much happier
and it wasn't about owning things
it was other concepts
and that's what it was
so anyway I encourage you to look into that
but then they start saying okay
if the Kalahari bushmen are the happiest people on the planet
and they don't own anything
they don't have refrigeration
they don't have cars right
like the Russians
but you know what they have
they have freedom
to do what they want on their own
in their own culture, their own way
and so then they said okay
well let's look at different countries
and each country took this model
and they looked at their own country
which we're not going to look into other countries
we'll just look at America
so who are the happiest people in America
you've heard me say this before Ernie
do you remember who are the happiest people
and I'll give you a hint
it's not libertarians
nothing against our people
who are the happiest people in America
the Christian women
no
no, no, I'll tell you the answer
the answer is the Amish
the Amish were
by far
I mean we're talking by two points easily
of a scale of like 10
they were the highest
in fact I remember seeing one of the videos from the research team
and they interviewed this one woman
who was Amish, of course you know
she wouldn't be on camera
and every Amish
rated their happiness level 10 out of 10
the average American back then
this was 30 years ago
was a 7 out of 10
now I can assure you it's not 7 out of 10 now
I mean I don't know what the study is
but that was back in the 80s and 90s
when we still felt like we still had control over our life
I would gather that we're probably as bad
as the Soviet Union right now
because we don't feel like we have control in our life
but back then when Americans were
were a high 7
which was way above the average in the world
the Amish
were 10s out of 10s
all 10s out of 10s and they interviewed this one lady
and she only put a 9 down
I'll never forget this
it was like such a great interview
and they said well ma'am
how come you only put a 9 out of 10 down
and she said well
because I didn't think it was polite to brag
I'll never forget that
but the Amish
again you guys all know
they don't have electricity for the most part
they're not living our style
they don't have iPhones
they don't have any of this stuff
but yet they're the happiest
and they feel the most
free to them
and so this is an issue that I try to bring up
like with the Japanese
they have a unified monolithic culture
which libertarians would abhor
libertarians like everyone should
anyone from around the world can come in
do whatever they want any culture
and look from a libertarian standpoint
I agree
so this is why I have ferocious ambiguity on this topic
because as a libertarian
I get it
I'm the guy with the badge telling everybody how to live
you gotta do it this way
no of course not
but on the flip side I've lived in cultures
that are monolithic
and they are the most free and content
and happiness that you'll ever see
the Japanese
the Bushman
and the Amish
and the Amish are a good example
because if Ernie Hancock
with all of his freedom tried to live with the Amish
they wouldn't allow him there
because he's not one of them
he doesn't do it their way
now Ernie's like who do you mean
I got my way I wanna have my freedom
fine you can do what you want
but you're not part of their group
when you're part of the Amish assuming you come back after
what is it when they're 20
and they get to go into the world and party
party it up for a year or two
I forget that word spring have in or whatever
but when they come back
when they decide to be Amish
when they had a taste of Ernie Hancock's freedom
they either stick with the Ernie Hancock version of freedom
or they say you know what
I can do whatever the f I want
in the real world
but I go back
to the trappings of the culture I came from
and I
I'm completely free in my own way
there's no
there's no stress there's no crime
there's no art I mean
there is definitely politics in arguing
anywhere you go it's called humanity
but the happiness factor
of having everything that they need is there
and so that's what I'm just trying to bring up
is that it's so easy
for Americans especially when you
you cannot accept my version
because you can't
my issue Ernie is when it comes
to guns and the military
you and I can disagree all day
and you think I don't get it and I think you don't get it
whatever but what I'm getting to
is when you get people who have not
had this experience
who have the finger on the nuke
or they have our fad weapons
systems for missiles
and we're sitting there thinking oh well
you know Sharia law
and these women with the headbands and oh my god
they're all being oppressed and they all got guns
to their heads and it's like oh my god
they all have to be saved and they just don't realize
how we get it
well you know what I've heard this before
from the Bill Clinton years
when we're telling the Chinese
that they're I know I said this but
you know it's like you're killing your children
they're like our children are fine
you're killing your elderly and
our country can't
even conceive of that
because in our mind it makes sense
that the elderly are stuck in a senior home
I mean I don't want to deal with them
I mean it takes cost too much money
I can't afford a home nurse
I'm putting them in a senior home
what else do you expect me to do
well in other countries that's not even a question
the whole model is different
but if you haven't lived overseas
you don't think of things you've never thought about
that's my god damn point
and when it gets into foreign policy
that's an issue
how much more time do you need to make your point
because clearly we still don't understand
this is a country
because Americans have not lived overseas
of course
and you and I are so arguing about this
after how many years Ernie
how many years have you been arguing
I'm not arguing about it anymore
anyway
I still owe Ernie a vote of thanks
because he watched the video
and I was trying to fight with you
I don't get a chance to explain myself
I'm sure you'll have plenty of a chance Ernie
but look Ernie
before you sit there you tell me how wrong I am
I don't even know you're wrong
no you're wrong
can you at least
I'd like your honest opinion
before you go into your political side
freedom
can you at least just a little bit of humanity
what does it take away
from admittedly
government controlled
and edited whatever
that video about Iran
and you saw
the people were bombing
you saw that not everybody
how many people are like
we like America even though
they're wearing their head scarves
and this and that you saw a culture
that was for the most part
Pope aesthetic does it mean
that there weren't people that were fighting
against it who still remember
under the shah from the 70s
and the liberal
western revolution that was
wonderful on level
at the same time it was
definitely being paid for
and controlled by the west
under the shah and a lot of that
was over under over oil as
Dr. Ron Paul of all people
blatantly pointed out
so yes you know women were wearing
like mini skirts but there was
a cost for that and that was we're
shoving the middle finger
at the culture of
of Persia and you know
that whole thing blew up in our face
as it always does and Dr. Ron Paul
stated that
but with all that said when you watch the video
I'm really curious
with all that said
what did you learn or take away from the video
I'm just curious anything good from it
or anything that was
that was new for you to see
that every human being
and culture
country, region
color, religion
in this planet has way more
in common than they don't
agree that's what I got
agree okay we're done
okay we're done
alright so
so let me just a couple
a couple of things we'll get past that
so thank you wait wait wait I get to have my
do you hear it
I still want to talk about
all that but alright go ahead I've been talking for a while
go ahead and then
go ahead and then tell me
how the Amish are wrong for their culture
go ahead
nobody
asks
why
the Amish don't get drafted the Amish don't pay a lot
taxes the Amish are left alone
why
because they don't interface
with the government they got an agreement back in the
day if we don't need
don't want any benefits from
we're not taking so secured leave us
aloneism but then here comes
demand you're not allowed
to raise cows
for other people's consumption
you're not allowed you're not allowed you're not
allowed so then what do they do
they come out and force and go
vote who they vote for
Trump who we at war with
Iran
by who Trump I mean
so you know we're free right up until
we started voting okay
by the way and of course they're meat
also they're meat remember the
lawsuit they're trying to go after them with
the meat
that's what I said
raising cows
okay so this is
what my point
God and I can't get frank
acknowledges you know
he's gonna go oh yeah but
I'm like no this is
my point this is what drives me
this is why I don't give a shit about getting
new holidays or
you know how many scarves they wear
whatever they I don't care
when you say a universal
commonality
between all cultures
is who
what
is responsible
for the children
the upbringing of the children
the education of the children
the nutrition of the children
the having of the children
who is that
what do you say you do here
so you get like Romania
they started you know just use
you know having baby factories
we're just going to raise a whole bunch of
communists from the beginning damn grandmas
teaching them patriotic songs
and you're not allowed
okay head start we're going to have
we'll let you have your guns
as long as we get to have all the minds of your children
which is what happened
here in Arizona
you can have guns that
the children the school and shooting teams
or whatever as long as we get them
at three years old
in the nursery school
the taxpayer funded we indoctrinate
because grandmas teach them
you know how to shoot by six
you know who
who is responsible
for the
family
is it the family
is it that damn old masculine
misogynist patriarchy
which is what they target
come after we need beta
males we need freaking
you know pussy ass
we don't need men
we need boys
to do what we tell
them and we're going to use
this inundation of media whatever
to do it
to produce that
culture
you have four percent
of homosexual
community that you know represents
the population but there are at least
fifty percent of every freaking
in sitcom
you know there's straight white males
freaking gone
why what purpose
the father
to stupid the rule
gone
bring home the bacon and fry it up in the pan
feminism
why
nobody asked why
it is intentional
it's on purpose
and it's directed at
humanity
to change
humanity's
support of generation next
culture
so what is a universal
culture
it's the culture of that
which keeps humanity
marching on
to keep it
perpetuating
to go forth and multiply
to have and raise
children
you'll get the talk
to have and raise children
so this whole thing
when you want to talk about culture
what is the culture
of humanity
if I came from multi-dimensional
other star system
galactic whatever the hell
or I'm just AI
I'm AI man I can process all the information
I go um
I can ask rock right
now
what is the general
overlapping
cultural norm
for
humanity
on the planet earth
I think I should do that
when you start your next
before we ask rock
what do you think answer your own question
what do you think it is
who individual liberty
self-responsibility
who is in charge
of me
who is in charge
of my family
who it decides
what is or is not best
for my children
not some church member
coming in with a clipboard from the federal government
telling me how I'm going to raise
my child and whether they should work at
my restaurant
not that
what if you do what if you think that
I don't care what you think
I want to be
in a culture
I'm allowed to think
I get to decide
so can I ask you a question
do you think the Amish themselves
feel they're free
or they're in a cult
and they're controlled and they have no freedom
don't care no no I'm asking you
what do you think
I don't care
they should be
put yourself in their business
why should I care Frank
I'm not saying you should care
I'm asking you with your intelligence level
how do you think an Amish person
sees themselves
controlled or free
and I don't care
that's such a cop out Ernie
come on man
that's the crux
that's the crux of our argument
why do you even care
why do you even ask that question
why
because it's the plate of the matter
is that you can be what
you think is controlled
but take things for free
in this case the Amish it could be the Iranians
it could be the Americans
that's what I'm saying is that
freedom to one person
that's relative to what
that's what my point is
you want to be communists go be communists
you just can't make me do it
Amish are you the Amish are communists
you call them communists now
I'm saying you could be communists
socialists, religious cult
Mormon, Amish, midnight
I don't care
you could do whatever
you want
and after your year of going around
whatever and you want to go back there
or you want to create your own
I've been through this
we would go to the
what do you call it polygamist
Northern strip
North of the Grand Canyon still in Arizona
and you have these guys
that you have one faction
arguing with the other because
one has private property rights and the other one
they move you into a church
sanction funded house
that you there and your
10% goes to the whatever
the more money that you produce for the church
the more wives you get to have
according to the elders
I went through this and I'm going
don't care
people that change from that
we're going to have property rights
they move down the road 10-15 miles
started their own thing
now they got property rights
cool peace out
what do they think don't care
they don't like it they go start something else
what do they need
the freedom
to make that decision
for them and
their family
themselves
their children
and if you have the other religious
group come and say well you're doing it wrong
and your children now belong to us
we're going to save them from you
wow who's responsible
for generation next
who raises their children
why would anybody
come back and tell
another country like China
you're raising your children wrong
you know one who the hell
are you to tell me
oh you want to do a comparison
let's do a comparison just like what you did
you're going well who's the happiest
you know do I care
you know where do you got to care
no I don't got to care
I didn't say you have to care
I already know your tag lines on your t-shirt
you got a tattooed on your butt
I think I just don't care
I get it I'm just trying to point
that's your agent not in charge
that's right
I think Donna told me about it
but I'm just saying this
I got that shirt they gave me
they wanted me to
MC a thing in Washington DC
the big Ron Paul Revolution
the summer of 08 and I said I'll do it
but I'm a special agent
so freaking not in charge
you guys do everything
everybody's going to come up to me one the night
I send them to somebody
I am not in charge
if I don't have any responsibility
for picking speakers doing whatever
I am so freaking not in charge
let me ask you
I'm just still down
and both of us are going to take a chill pill
let me just ask you
can you
I'm not trying to set you up I'm not
but can you acknowledge
I'm going to be able to
I'll try
I don't even listen to this arguing
give your best try man
yeah yeah
can you at least
acknowledge perhaps
that you know
someone could be living in a lifestyle
that you don't think
is free but they
feel that they're free
and they have no joy of America
can you
exactly even America
I mean this is the part that
I guess on authority I'm not going to
I promise I won't steal it and start yelling
and talking too long but
like when I was in Japan
or with the Amish
or the Iranians
and I'm not talking about the political
here is that I
have personally seen not in Iran
because I haven't been there that video gave
a little insight to it though
is that you can have people that
are they're living in a world
that would never work in America
and they're homogenized
wait wait they're homogenized
in their country and their culture
they all speak the same language
they all have the same
religion they all
follow the same doctrines and holidays
and whatever they or their kids
all go to the same schools
that are state sponsored schools
in fact in Japan on any given day
every grade
school is on the same
book in the same page
in the same grade book
per day that's how regulated
the Japanese schools are
in their mind
in their mind they are
completely having content with it
but that would not work with
how Ernie would see it but do you
do you see the fact that
these people in their mind
they're free if you sit back and say
well what what how come you know
you can do this and this they're like we don't want to
we're happy with where we're at
and they're free and they're content
I mean do you do you do see
that what what cultures
that might be more much more
rigid than America allowing people
to have any religion any
any language any anything
which would not fly in America
or definitely Ernie Hancock but
can you see how people who live in those
cultures do not feel
that they're oppressed they
are free and they're often
safe and happy and it works
for them is that can you at least
acknowledge that absolutely
and they have those
uncle's dysphoria is what they call
them yeah dysphoria I think it is
you know it's cultured that you know have
left their home country and recreated
all over the world now
the Somali do that in Minnesota
you know you got you know
little China little Italy little little
little little all across freaking America
right you know you have the Dutch
Amish you know they speak German
you know you got you got you got
Native Americans that are here never
saw you know I'm sure some
saw white man I mean you know
so freaking what
that's not the point
are they
free to choose
if they're not well you know
that's their problem you know I
go fix it we're gonna have a civil war
we're gonna what all I
am saying I'm gonna say it
freaking again I can do it in a nano
moment compared to Frank
is that who
is responsible
for you
who is the person
that signs the check
who's the person that's ultimately
responsible who's the person that
serves the time
for their action who is the one that
negotiated with for their
labor or their
slave who is the
one responsible for the
children that they
are responsible for
if didn't have or DNA
is part of them or whatever
who and why
you know I it always
comes down well you have to acknowledge
that somebody else wants to be a
I don't care be a slave
knock yourself out New York City
pace let me know how it works out
but you can't tell
me how
I must raise
my children
and the first thing we did my oldest
daughter or four kids was third grade
I look you know what is this
homeschool thing you must
in Arizona it's different than other places
Arizona you have to inform
the powers that be whatever
that you're homeschooling which I did
on a little paper handed the first
day of school said our kids aren't going here
no more peace out last time we went
in government school at the same
time you know a decade later
when I started doing radio
we had a family that we were following
in Massachusetts that
you're homeschooling you're
not allowed they sue them
they come after them they charge them with criminal stuff
they're going to take the children away finally
it was negotiated that they
had to take a test
you got to take the test now of course
they beat the crap out of the test but
the family is like I have them on my show
they're back in those 304
and they're going you know
we're going to take your test
we're going to force take your job I'll give a shit
what your criteria is anyway
what makes you think I give a crap what your test is
your test is going to test them
what you think is important they're my kids
so
the lawyers negotiated with them
and this was the thing they go alright
you must present
the children
to this lobby or the conference room
of the best western downtown or whatever
for them to take the test
they had three kids
like the two oldest that had to take the test or whatever
they were like preteen teen
age
they go in they sat down at the table
they put the test in front of them
and they sat there and stared at it for an hour
they got up gave it back
hey you said I had to come here present
to take the test
I failed now what
damn it
so this is what they did
they said you know
we have awarded custody
or guardianship
or whatever
to the state
but
we're allowing them to live at home
raised by you
they would not give up
the ownership
of the children
in
America
so what is the common
culture
it's not government edict
it's not government mandate
it's not government coercion
it may form
mass formation psychosis that
it may become well
and that's the argument here in America
it takes a village
oh the people should control
children a little bit
and I'm going no
the common
culture of humanity
is based on
their continuing
to be a humanity
which is
go forth and multiply
have children be responsible
for your children
to the point that they're responsible
for themselves
that is a foundational
culture
element in everything
but in communism
socialism authoritarianism
ism ism ism of isms
they got their isms right here
and that ism is to support the ism
and how do we support the ism
with indoctrination
starts with children
then it starts with adults
then it starts with everybody
everywhere for everything
and your 1984 brave new world
Fahrenheit 451 all over again
and that's exactly my point
so when you talk about
these different cultures and how
I don't freaking
care
I'm not done
I go go go
so when you got
an entire country with the power
of our military
to whatever excuse we come up with
for the children, for the people
for individual rights
Iran's often 30,000 their people
they're doing whatever excuse
you come up with which you know
half of the problem you cause to begin with
to justify do whatever
because I don't care
the
individual
is what is
supported by humanity
continuing
to
propagate
to go forward to not be
extinct
because if human
responsibility for yourself
and your family
was not eventually
the priority that gets people
to resist the revolution
to civil war to whatever
we would be
extinct by now
because power always
collectivizes
till it has the power to off any descent
to go after anybody
it doesn't tow the line
which is what's happening right
now
you're not allowed to say it
you're going to get arrested
you're going to get a visit by somebody with guns
in a clipboard and if you keep saying
keep saying no
you're dead
and if you're not dead
you're excommunicated from society
if you go fine
that suits me just fine
I go occupy the land
or the sea or the space somewhere
well then you're a bad example
and you got to be taken out
for being a dissident
and that is what's happening right now
so when you talk about this culture thing
I'm going what culture
culture that supports humanity
humanity even existing
I don't care
and I don't care what any other country is
it's me
what supports
me
what supports me and my family
on my family chat
of my children
their spouses
and my grandchildren and Donna and I
what
affects that
that's all I care about
and we are responsible
for the raising of our children
and our grandchildren until they
become responsible for themselves
and their families and that
is a universal culture
that cannot be suppressed
for
certainly more than
four cycles you know
the fourth turning it always
comes around throughout history over
and over it's called revolution
round and round
she goes and we are in
the final stage
that we have the hubris
that we have the technology
and we have the military
might that we think
we're going to go change somebody
else's culture to where that
individual that country
that family is no longer
in charge of how they're going to live
and we're going to dictate it with this here
bomb
that's what's going on
that will not sustain itself
libertoss.earth
no I
you know at the very end what you said
I agree that's kind of I guess ultimately
at least despite our
somehow differences
is that at the end of the day when America
thinks that we have some
dominant culture even though America doesn't
even know what the hell the culture is
and we're literally going through a culture identification
we used to
I agree
that's what Ron Paul was saying
we won't even know what these words mean
yeah no no
seriously I think we agree
at least in the meta point
is that we had a culture
and we don't have a unified culture now
and yet at the same time we don't even know
what our own culture is
and yet we're trying to export it
we're exporting our culture that we ourselves
are going through a culture war
we call it the culture war
so if we're calling it a culture war
and we're exporting
at least we're still trying to
before we did
Elvis, Michael Jackson, George Lucas
we can go all day
we've been exporting our culture
we exported our debt
we exported our military
and yet most Americans don't even know another language
we've never traveled
and don't know anything about the world yet
we're exporting everything to the rest of the world
and now we're wondering why we're getting
some blow back
from the rest of the world
it's not just about money
or about history or about the
Middle East as Dr. Ron Paul, God bless him
and he's correct about
there's many components to it
but you and I are in agreement there
and look
I'm not trying to bait you on this
but let me just ask you a question
do you think
who is the more free
and again free is
oh man this is such a
you know with normies this is
a more fun discussion
when you're audience, what you're doing with Ernest
the Ernest Hancock
and I say that with some reverence
yes I'm that libertarian
exactly
this is like a mine field
but you know hopefully some of you
at least 2% of you give me some credit
for taking on Ernest here
I know hopefully 2% of you do
but like it's like
alright so if you're looking at
2 groups
imagine a group
in an Ernie
world which is
everyone does whatever they want
imagine you have like a thousand people
all living
on an island
it's like the Lord of the Flies
and you're on an island
and each person wants to do exactly their way
they want their language
their religion
they want their foods
they want every single thing done their way
their own way
and they're like I'm free
I got my own flag, I put my own flag down
and the other guy that's like
100 feet away
he's doing his own thing
maybe he goes to sleep at a different time
and he plays rock music when you're trying to sleep
it's like everyone's doing their own
he's got different foods and then your foods
and everything's different
now you could be free
if everyone supposedly agrees
but it is
insane to think
that
you will have tranquility
in that situation
and this is the quandary
and I mean if I'm not trying to knock libertarians
because I come
I still see myself as a libertarian
Ernie of course
Ernie's like kicked me out of the club
but the thing is
it's like
everyone does their own thing
you're going to walk on other people's toes
it's just going to happen
I saw this at the jackalope
a
conference or whatever you call it
with the camping which we all did
everyone wants to do whatever they want
and some people showed up
they decided to do a rave
with loud music until spring
and five o'clock in the morning
but with the nonstop
it's like nonstop
well they got to do what they wanted to do
their freedom
the rest of the groups
like you know what I can't deal with that
now of course Ernie's like
but they got to exercise their freedom
so okay everyone gets to do their own freedom
but very quickly
you realize you're not always compatible
so either you leave
or you have to have an aggregate
where you start to vote
which Ernie of course won't do
and you say alright
51% agree that when it's past
midnight
we should have no loud music
because how many of us have children
have to sleep
and of course
now none of this includes Ernie
because Ernie's just sitting there having
a musical gang bang
going yeah freedom
so we all give credit to Ernie
he doesn't care about anything
he just doesn't care
but for the rest of people who have kids
and looking at different timings
and this and that this becomes an issue
about having loud music
that you literally cannot sleep
and any one of you listening
what's your point skip to the end
my point is that that is
ultimate Ernie version of freedom
versus a group of people
that have the same language
the same you know
foods the same everything
like for instance if you have a food store
and everyone needs the same foods
the food store
can keep everything stocked
for having sushi
or wasabi
or whatever that you want
you never run out of food
but if you have a thousand
different people
with a thousand different cultures
and a thousand different foods
that they like to eat
then how do you get the food
damn before Ernie says
grow your own food you dumb asses
that's what I'm doing I have my own farm
okay fine so everyone has their own farm
but if you don't have a farm
because maybe in order to have an industrialized
you probably incentivize to have your own farm
you happen to have a city
because not everyone can be a farmer
otherwise there's no port
otherwise no port of farmers
because if everybody you know
if nobody was in a city
and everyone had their own farm
then I guess you're on growing your own thing
but then again it comes back to
how do you have a society
that has enough of an economy
to fight against people who don't all
live off of the land
who have cities
I am not
you're not pragmatic
my question is how do you have people
that are all living
if you have a thousand people all living
doing their own thing Ernie's style
with their own freedom
then I guess and I'm not trying to be
I'm truly not trying to be facetious
you might see that as an attitude
freedom that you can
you have your own plot of land
you got your own like square acre
and you do whatever you want on that square acre
you can pound sand
you can send off fireworks
you can do whatever
so you're free there
but the local food store
doesn't have enough food for maybe
what you want unless you grow your own
because they have to have Indian food
and they have this veggie vegan food
and they have to have
Muslim food and they have to have Russian food
and they have all these different foods
and look and I'm nothing against cultural food
I'm just saying if everyone's
doing their own thing all the time
their own schools with their own religions
their own cultures
everything then you have
to do everything on your own
and you know what Ernie's view is
thank you Frank
I want to do it on my own
I want to do everything on my own
on my plot of land with my bulldozer
and by the way no slight to Ernie
Ernie's doing awesome with what he's doing
I'm just saying God bless him
but I just mean if everyone does
their own thing completely from scratch
you know maybe that is
it is the ultimate sign of freedom
and a culture that
allows that level of freedom
and I will never take that away from you
but I'm just saying
how many people look at that themselves
who are not
that libertarian bumper sticker
as freedom
versus others that look at the
look at the what
oh my god Frank's cutting out
so I get to talk
this is about when it hangs up
and then he calls back in
and
the jackalope thing is a good thing
as a great example
and a decade long experiment
that went like another
three or four years it's still going on
but this is what happened
could you have
a freedom
gathering
that no one was in charge
where everybody was
that could go and just camp out
you know a few of their besties
and you get hundreds of people and families
there to do whatever
can you do that
sure we did it
for ten years
ten ten a decade
I'm going nope nope
you don't say where people got a camp
families over here this over here
stage here that nope
there's no organization
other than spontaneous order
and that people do what
they want to do when they want to do it
like a good neighbor don't be
rule one don't be a dick
there was only two rules
one don't be a dick
two you can't
drive your vehicles on the marsh
they had it
cordoned off with railroad ties
and you know telephone pole whatever
because it got wet out there
people sank messed it up
gotta go save them
you know march out there play kid whatever
don't take your vehicles
on the marsh you moron
because people would do it
you violated rule two
what was rule one
rule one don't be a dick
and one of those things was don't drive in the marsh
other than that
you do what you want
ten
years went up and down
a little loud here a little desk
have a little meeting everybody talk about
cab yachts all good
but then it started to get
it started to be successful
so it started to be kind of
more organized
we could charge a little bit get better bands
and we could have a list
we could get a community
we'd have a culture of somebody is in charge
of a committee of the old
man I'm out
I already had my experiment
it works as long as
you don't have anything it'll kind of
you'll have too much coffee
one year not enough the next year
but I get to go camping
with hundreds of my new best friends
and if I want it I bring it
okay you don't want it there
you don't find move down the road
dude whatever
it was an experiment
well what happened
no one
owned the property
so because it was
forest service so anyone
could come
nobody could kick them out
nobody had the force of arms
nobody was the
sergeant at arms if you're not allowed
you've been excommunicated from because it wasn't
organized then we go
to rogers campground
where porkfest is in northern
new hampshire they're probably
not going to have
the traditional pork
fest this year
why
because it got to where
people tried to control it too much
Crosby
the owner
he was like peace out you guys do what you want
you'll pay the thing
don't harm anybody
I don't care
peace out
I'll protect you from the tax man
do you have a food license to do that
what do you say
where's your sales kind of our cut
nope you're not allowed to go into the campground
keep your shiny badge out here
you're not
they do whatever and peace out
which is what
happened and the value
that Crosby gave that event
was to insulate them
from government action
they were
for what was internal and were allowed
by a private
property owner to keep the government
out but they
were the ones that managed and
rented and ran the event
so they could excommunicate
and kick out whoever they wanted
and as a property owner if they needed
him to exercise property rights
they'd kick them out
well then that becomes contention
and who you kicked out
and you did it wrong
you know crap happens
and after a decade or two
you just run into whatever
a lot of times it's infiltrated
you have what's called coolers
they need to cool
this freedom thing down
they come in and they start
a whisper campaign
they troll different things
they got bots that happened
I've seen it all
because I've been around a long time
and I paid attention
then
I got my own property
I go you know what
I got 18 acres
I could have hundreds of people come out here
and set it up and RV and kind of
nice weather you know like
you know it's usually April
you know March April
it's about right now it's about the nicest
weather you know the winds
aren't really high right now
hadn't got oh my god hot
nice it's cool enough to have a fire
you know maybe a month ago
February might be good
certainly October first
you know half of November
I could do that
but then I'd have people on my land
and I'd have to
excommunicate some
I go I don't want you hit you can't change
your transmission on your freaking RV
here you can't do you can't
you can't deal this is the rule
so then came mid-fest
out of Oklahoma spab and
Oklahoma but
he knew that it had to be on
private property it is
a campground that was trying to
family friendly up they've been
working on it fixing a lot of stuff
tornado hits here to get to redo that
and so on had a bunch of Harley
Davidson big you know
marijuana festivals and stuff
there to kind of want to tone
it down a little bit more we got all these
anarchists there are way
more family friendly way
more self-responsible way
more not in charge way more
just pay them your rental fee
and rule one don't be a dick and
Mike
I was his last name the SWATEC
Mike his first
jackalope
he was so inspired that
he goes you don't need to be one in the middle of the country
so he goes
in Oklahoma he finds this place
and they have
rules
rule one don't be a dick
you know rule two
you'll do that do that do that so
music
dogs kids
how to be
a good neighbor
ultimately
it'll come down to the property owner
will kick your ass out with us golf
clapping on the sidelines you know
by God
so who are the people that come
well I want to have walk around naked
all the time in the whatever
and go to the pool and the shuffle
board can't no not allowed
you will do you know respect
our preferences there
there you can't come anymore
well I want to have
naked zombie dancing you know
pleasure dome of the
whatever bondage display
we'd rather not you know
or can or require to whatever
you set up your own rules
but what does it come down to
from personal
experience
of having been all around the country
looking at
different living conditions
you have intentional
communities
unintentional communities
municipal communities
out in the county communities
I'm far enough out there ain't no community
communities you know what
is the best in my opinion
the best is yet to do
whatever the hell you want
except
on my property
and if you do not respect
that this is
my property
and that I get to have
the peaceful
continuous use
of my property
which that has come up in law
which includes what
shiny lights, laser beams
going in your backyard
or big rave kind of
that's not the peaceful use of my property
but it's off my property
so this is where you have
what jurisdiction do you have
where do you have this judge
how do you get along with each other
what kind of neighbors do you have
which is why
brings up Donna and I
there's properties around us
like 10 acre lotments
we're waiting for the big giant crash
they go down
we may be buying all the property
around our property
why?
for the peaceful use of our property
and the insulation of our property
we have that freedom
hopefully we have that
financial option
and when things go to shit
we just might
that was the lesson that was learned
what about
I don't care
we want to live
in liberty
we are free
you can in a moment
we are free
to make use of our hands
our life
our labor
to create and attain
our justly acquired property
we are free
but are you at liberty
are you at liberty to do that
what jurisdiction
what claim on my life
and my freedom
does something or somebody else have
to tell me I don't
control my property
my family
my children
my food
my air
it's so fundamental and basic
and everybody brings up straw men
what about
and I'm going
what about my freedom
to choose
my freedom
to set my own standards
on my property
what about that
can't talk about that
we got to talk about somebody else
somewhere
is either doing it better
or doing it wrong
or who's going to rule me
or who's going to be my president
or who's going to pass some law
that mental effort
is not in my psyche
I don't
fucking care
and it doesn't matter
you're trying to make it matter
you're trying to give me a circumstance
that it should matter
when it really doesn't
and in that environment
in the early 90's
when you have home school what's that
I yanked my kids out of school
not a hesitation
I always learn the risk
what am I risking
what is it that I got to contend with
how hard is this to do
what am I going to
so I go through that and evaluate the risk
and I keep thinking more and more
of me going down
the social security administration
for me to be able to
get my Medicare
whatever
get my social security money back
and I'm just like
you know I guarantee
they're going to want me to sign
I totally agree bubble of whatever
I think I'll go down
to see the first
moment in the parking lot
where they do that
they do that
I don't need your benefit
and that's Jay noon
all these guys are like
man you don't ask for benefits from the government
but then just recently
good friend
that's just totally out I don't want to mess with it
gets a visit from the IRS
well it says explain it to you
so tell me what does it yet do here
you got a bank account
we're seeing that you're transacting and doing
there's some money in there
but
you say you're not susceptible to the
tax man well we're here to argue with you
then you got to make a decision
do you pay the
extortion fee? Donna and I do
you know alright
here's all the money you see goes to Rebecca
here's all the money we got
and this much alright this is my
do I get my roads fixed no
can I ask you a question
anything no
can I ask you a question so
how do you
10 minute question
22nd question
how do you
define or interpret
the two terms
freedom
versus the word culture
how do those
interact are they
comparison contrast
how do you see them
how do you compare
a dinner fork
with a car tire
I'm asking you and just so you know
I'm setting you up
culture and freedom
hey because of your friend
I'm setting you up I'm just letting you know
because I love you
you can have a culture
of freedom
but can you have a
freedom
culture yeah I guess so
you know but I
I don't even understand the context
comparing dinner forks with tires
you know what's the
how are they related you know what are you saying
I could have a culture
and I can have freedom
I could have a freedom culture or culture
freedom but
the words by themselves are
freestanding what do you mean
okay are you done
is that your answer I'm asking the question
what do you mean
there are isolated individual
words you could have a freedom
culture or culture of freedom
but freedom and culture
are not necessarily late
whenever I say the word culture
you know your blood pressure goes through the
goddamn roof when I mention freedom
yeah freedom whatever I want to do
freedom and Frank doesn't
understand it isn't getting so thick-headed
so so how do you define
freedom versus culture
I'm just curious and by the way
because I love you
I'm just saying I'm setting you up for
you know well do the setup
because I don't understand what your question
I'm just asking do you see
freedom and culture the same different
or what can you have a culture without freedom
yes can you have freedom
without a culture
individually probably family
yes you know I see they're
isolated they're not they're not you can't
it's not like you can't have one
you know without the other the other
has to require the other one
I don't understand your point
no I'm just I'm not trying
to be a complete jerk about it I'm just
just asking because you know if you always
talk about you know when I but whenever I
bring up culture you
you always get triggered
and it's always about freedom
and you think that and and you know I'm being
trying to be sincere you know you
feel that I don't see what you're
seeing yeah you it's like
I don't care what culture it is
I don't care what color you like
I don't care what holiday
you celebrate I don't care what food
you like it comes down to
freedom do I have the right
to celebrate whatever color
or culture or food
or religion or holiday
or clothes or whatever
who's in charge of me
I'm sorry who's in charge
of me am I am or somebody else
is it a culture
of you're at liberty
to use your freedom
you're at liberty
you're just complicating
the goddamn issue
when I
oh you are you are you just want to
complicate it so if somebody
wants if my daughter
wants to celebrate Christmas
and wait for Santa to come
I mean is that because she's
being controlled
or is that culture
a lot of times they overlap
per touche
oh you're getting close to my world
don't do that Ernie you're going to get yourself in trouble
alright so
so let let me let me get to
question
we already are you ready
and this is the last one
we got to go
wait wait wait
same damn culture argument
this killing me
this is important
whenever Ernie gets caught in a corner
just think you know
whenever Ernie gets caught in a corner
he always says time for the news
time for the news
that's what Ernie's losing
because he always goes
it's time for the news
no that's when you throw in it
no I already know
alright here we go
so who is the most
libertarian person you know
what would you say besides Ron Ball
Thomas Jefferson maybe
same
you know you gotta define
how many libertarians can dance on a head of a pan
I'm leading
I'm leading the witness here
Thomas Jefferson
hopefully Ernie knows who Thomas Jefferson is
and I don't think Thomas Jefferson
was the woke blue haired liberal
so let's just go with that
the purpose of
he writes he wrote it down
the purpose of government
the defense of individual rights
when they don't do that
it's time to alter abolish it
your duty boom
Thomas Jefferson
well
Thomas Jefferson
and I put it in
Thomas Jefferson and slavery
or slaves you can put different versions in there
so I'm just gonna give this a quick paragraph
I hate to read on the on a radio
Thomas Jefferson
author of the declaration
owned over how many slaves did Thomas Jefferson
have do you know Ernie
I know like a hundred or something
you know sixty whatever
it wasn't a gazillion but it wasn't
a couple well Ernie
inherited him from his you know
wife's family or something
and he was more about you know
hell he was making love to him and had a bunch of children from him
so it wasn't like he didn't like black people
it was he was protecting them
from slavery
more than anything else
if he put him out and sold him
he kept the families together
I mean there's a whole other background
of why he had slaves
wait wait wait wait
I already see you guys
Ernie's getting triggered here
so Ernie's already wrong
because he doesn't know the number
Thomas Jefferson
the writer of the declaration
and by the way I don't be
saying this for the goddamn beginning here
I love Thomas Jefferson
I am not a blue hair
I'm not sitting there saying that
Christopher Columbus was an a-hole
not discovering America
let me just get all this for the leftist
and CIA people listening
okay just you know
I'm on your side audience
but I do have Ernie Hancock
who was kind of a
let's just say it's a piece of work and it's challenging
but I love Ernie
but anyway he said about
100 slaves right?
I know you don't know
it's okay I'm not an expert
um Thomas Jefferson
owned over
600
slaves
during his lifetime
with around 130
that were still alive
at his Monticello Plantation
at any given time
while expressing
I'm just reading this from
chatbot so give or take
where the chatbot is lying to me
I'm just being up front
while expressing that slavery was
quote the poor bull entanglement
unquote
he remained a slave holder
until his death freeing
only 10 slaves
he also enslaved
Sally Hemings
with whom he had several children
called marriage
I know I've talked to Donna
I'm just kidding
but no in all seriousness
you know I'm not
saying this for the audience
and Ernie knows me enough personally
I'm not trying to bash Thomas Jefferson
I'm not trying to take away
the credibility and the
profundity of what our founding fathers were
I mean none of that
BS that they want to span
I want to be very
f-ing clear and Ernie knows this
but I just want to know any of you leftists
or anyone listening in trying to
spin crap that is not what I'm saying
I love Thomas Jefferson he's a hero
he is the reason
alright blah blah blah
alright I mean I get it
but I just want to give Ernie
a hard time here because that's what
I'm paid to do
is
I want Ernest
and I can't believe I'm turning it over
to him because I have some more stuff to say
before we get to the news
don't be grabbing the mic back
I got a few things about Joe Kent
still so but I'm being nice
I'm a nice being
I know we do and I'll be able to do it
for a week quick
no no because this is an issue
but I want to throw it to you
and I'm not trying to stick it to you
I'm really not but I'm trying
you get triggered
every time and the fact that
Ernest gets triggered
audience could say something to you
I won't say what that means
but I'm just saying it should say something to you
but I am just pointing out
with Thomas Jefferson
that with Thomas Jefferson
you know because Ernie
whenever I talk about culture
Ernie says culture and freedom
are like completely opposite
or like independent
terms so
without using the word culture
because Ernie's blood pressure
goes up and when Ernie's blood pressure
goes up then me being a doctor
I'm on the loop and you know
I'm responsible for Ernie
so I don't want my liability insurance
to go up so without getting
Ernie upset using the word
you know culture
how does Ernie
describe Thomas
Jefferson who is the
probably the penultimate
libertarian
and about liberty and freedom
and do whatever the hell you want
because if Ernie can find some libertarian
that trumps
you know I'm being a little fun
so he's just here then Thomas Jefferson
I'd like to hear it from Ernest
but if we assume that Thomas Jefferson
is the pinnacle
of liberty and he's got
600 slaves
alright I'd like to hear from
Ernie without using the word culture
because Ernie's not allowed to use the word culture
otherwise I'll bust the ass of him
and flip out and my blood pressure
goes up and then his doctor dies
in front of him but I'm curious
how do you explain
or describe
the ultimate example
of libertarianism Thomas Jefferson
600 slaves without using the word
culture go
why
because I'd like to hear an explanation
because you keep thinking there's a
desperate
despairing issue go ahead
a bunch of things in there
that you know are very
challengeable one
the ultimate libertarian Thomas Jefferson
you know
I never said that
the only respect
I have for Thomas Jefferson
was his advocacy for the rights of
the individual
you had like John Adams going on about
America we can even have
our own Kang let's call
George Washington we can be Kang
we have a government we just gotta have a Kang
we gotta compete on the international level
whatever then Hamilton is the one that did
the constitution Jefferson
was in France he had nothing to do
with the constitution he is
representing us there
so it's you know making babies
with Sally what's her face so I just like
this is you know
the comparison
you know using Jefferson
as a slave owner I go
what are you a progressive I mean you know so
I'm I don't see
it's not the ad hominem attacks just go
with the issue how do you define
the ultimate libertarian
no you're not you're you're you're doing
ad hominem attacks on me in your time
no you're looking at me
no go ahead and answer the question
I can't because you asked
me as a
great quintessential libertarian
Thomas Jefferson I would never do that
he's way more
libertarian than a lot of other guys
but you know what's my top libertarian
I don't know
probably Rothbard
Al Neal Smith
Ron Paul
is a really good example
but you know it's hard
to have someone that
you know as a congressman
you know when I say
Massie's the libertarian yeah probably
Ron Paul you maybe not
you know ran so much
you know that's why it stuck with me so much
yes I'm that libertarian
because
it came from a speech that was
one of
gentlemen running for president
in a presidential debate
one year back in
whenever it doesn't matter
and it was yes I'm that libertarian
the one that does that
that libertarian that does this
and I go that's it we did bumper stickers
yes I'm that libertarian
which I used to have in my laptop in my old studio
and I'm going
yeah what is that libertarian
well who is
that libertarian well I'll freaking raise my hand
I'm that libertarian
you know well
when you say how can I defend
somebody
that had slaves
being a libertarian
what makes you think I could
or would want to
you know I mean I do go back
and I have checked that out
did the history on it
how many did he actually buy
how many did he inherit
what would have happened to him if he
you know freed him and let him go
some that you know probably wanted to be freed
and had somewhere to go he freed
you know I mean there's
you know a dozen or more of some
they freed you know then you get
alright well who wants to be freed
man I got pretty good over here
I'm eating and got a night
and they're giving me some kind of freedom
and they're you know don't hate me
or think lowly of me and I'm protected
from the other slave owners
I mean you know you can do a movie
a whole movie on it
matter of fact I'm sure there had been
so the thing is is that when you say
what was he a victim of
the circumstances
you can say culture you can say whatever
the hell you want you're not allowed to say culture
well don't you know
it was a
product of his circumstances
when he wrote culture
that's culture you're not allowed to say that
the declaration of
independence when he wrote
the Declaration of Independence
and he put in life
liberty and what was very popular
because of John Locke
you know they were influenced by
through decades before life, liberty
and property
well he didn't want
the property
to include human beings
so they put in pursuit of
happiness as opposed to property
for
that reason
because they didn't want to perpetuate
the slave trade
well this is and then
the abolitionist thing was going on there
and in England yada yada yada yada
so they were products
of their circumstances
culture
just say it Ernie
I know it pains you but that's the point
the word culture is what you
keep dancing around you understand
that's the point
you know I don't mind using the word
culture but it doesn't really apply
because there were so many in fact
an entire north
that went to war
and hundreds of thousands
of Americans killed by other Americans
died
to not have slavery
it wasn't really ingrained in our culture
as much as you try and make out
it was though
I mean how could
hundreds of thousands of people
died for them
to try to eradicate that
from the circumstances
and you won't acknowledge that
oh my god how do you defend
and look
I'm from Philadelphia I was born in Philly
so I got some Philly cred
not to mention I know
the right type of cheese
and besides I know the right cheese
to put on a soft pretzel
Ernest doesn't
there wasn't a civil war
that didn't happen
all I know is if you know about soft pretzels
and Philly or real philadelphia
and you know about history but with that said
I'm just saying how do you
how do you in any way Ernest
and I'm not trying to be an ass
but you know maybe I am
is how do you defend
the ultimate libertarian
who wrote the Declaration of Independence
he always throw the
you always keep trying to shove up my ass
about the Bill of Rights
and I don't say that in a bad way
because Ernest is right at the end of the day
the Bill of Rights trumps
Ernest Hancock's favorite word
it trumps the Constitution
and he's correct and he should be
but how do you turn around
and say and by the way
the Bill of Rights was not just Thomas Jefferson
it was other people just to be clear
but Thomas was definitely
part of it
but how do you defend someone
with the ultimate Bill of Rights
that Ernest says I don't give a crap what Frank says
if it's not the Bill of Rights
it doesn't matter Constitution doesn't matter
nothing matters Bill of Rights
so Ernest has gone
on the record
and God knows I know
and he's taken the sword
for the Bill of Rights which is Thomas Jefferson
who has 600 slain
right
now I'm not trying to sound
like a goddamn leftist I'm really not
trust me I'm not
I'm not I'm not because
the reason I don't
is because I understand
and this is a hard thing
culture I understand
the times that people live in
and it's so challenging for people
in different times
to look back in history
and using their own frame of reference
to understand other people
I mean this has been and I don't want to
get into a whole this is a whole loaded topic
but the whole thing of feminism
I mean it's really tough
and I God bless Donna
and Savarda and women
who and I mean this
sincerely like I think these are very
special women who are in a very
unique time in history
who on one hand come from
thousands of years
earlier where women were
in a different position compared to
men which I think
in many ways was protectionist
from evolution
and from history
but then we have this new world
of everything being equal
and men and women or you can do whatever
and I'm not against that either I don't want
women to be to be paid less than
men and I'm not trying to get into that
issue either but but you've got
people in this strange
you know like like split
between them and and and it's
like it's an issue about
culture and about about timeliness
it's it's not
it's not a stone
you know and and people have to see
the events they have around
them from the context
of the world that they live in
from the history and
Ernie's favorite word of the day
culture that they're in
and the thing is when people
in the past have lived
thousands of years or hundreds of
years in the same
culture when I say culture
that's like a it's like
it's like an overall for language
religion
ladies food
the weather
even the weather even the weather
believe it or not all of this
is all around the same people remember
most humans
look I'm going to say this Ernie and I think
you know this but just
for the audience's sake this is one of the
most profound things
you will anyone listening be right now
is going to hear for the next year
according to me because I don't know
what I'm talking about
this is one of the most profound statements
I had time to
settle on and that is
that throughout time throughout all of
human history
up until
the last 50 years
70 years
I don't know whatever
is that almost every human
being ever born
ever born
has been born
lived and
died within
seven to eight miles
of where they were born
period
end of effing story
just imagine that
that you were born
lived and died within
seven miles
of where you're at
and that includes
the people you meet the men
if you're a woman you meet
the foods the foods
that were grown in the plants
and the indigenous
plants in your area remember
for millions of years
you didn't have whole foods
having like
shrimp being imported from Mexico
you didn't have dragon fruit
sent from like Brazil
you didn't have like whatever sent from whatever
you had like here in Arizona
you had chaparral
you had
you had you know I mean all you had
were the states and the point
and the point is
the point is that that is what cultures
often about
it's like and these people didn't think that
they were like lost their freedoms
that's who they were
at the time
are they allowed
what's that
are they allowed
well of course they're allowed
as long as they're allowed
it's a conceptual issue
of what freedom is
and your view
look your view of freedom Ernie
and I say this as a compliment
it's a much more
intellectual
10,000 view
approach
it goes down to the freaking ground
no I mean it's not that
Ernie likes to think that I don't get it
I really do
Ernie doesn't want to admit it
but it's like no I get it
it's just the concept
is can
absolute
over freedom freedom freedom
I want to take cats and shove them
into cactuses
can that work and I can play
you know rap music until
4 o'clock in the morning at like
a billion decibels
because I'm in Bangkok it's all for freedom
and is that the that's
Ernest version of freedom just so you know
just for the audience Ernest wasn't
doing whatever he wants at any time and
you know I mean that's
Ernest version of freedom
as long as I don't violate the pursuit
of happiness I'm not going to be
a person to take that away
and and by the way
and by the way and and I'm going to be
very serious about this
I am not in any way
saying anything negative against
my friend Ernest I mean this
sincerely but
true freedom would be
you know if Ernest
Frank's true freedom
true freedom everybody pay attention
here comes here we go well
I mean you know what about
God forbid something
that's now considered important
what if Ernest decides it was to
spank his kids
spank his grandkids you know wants to
tell his wife and not I mean
I mean Donna would beat the shit out of Ernie
but you know it's like you know if
Ernie's like the old fashioned men
would be like hey hey you know my wife has to
I'm just
I would love to see that I'm just
saying though it's like you know
that's freedom right Ernie
can live the life that he thinks
is free to him
and I'm not going to I'm not going to be
the guy with the shiny badge as much as
Ernie keeps thinking that that's what I'm in favor of
I'm not that's fine
but if everybody if every
man lives his life
very similar then every
and women and everyone feels
a copa aesthetic and it makes sense
home it's a homogenous
for that culture
I'm not
saying that's a good culture
it could be a horrendous culture
it could be a culture that stifles
you know ingenuity
and being into the world
stage and growth
all of that but at the end of the
but you see Ernie every time
this comes up Ernie realize he's getting
boxed in so he always wants to jump out of it
and he thinks I'm wasting everyone's time
do you really think I feel boxed in
do you really Frank
do I feel boxed in do you really think
yes I do yes I do
because you can't handle those
kind of conversations
once you get it you think
I'm wasting time
I'm not wasting time
I'm just bringing up a point
and I'm not trying to like get you into a box
because I'm really nice
it's just an issue of how we
think America is
or what your culture is
I'm saying look I have no problem
you can do whatever you want
but just recognize
that you have a culture
and what you think is free
is not what other people think is free or not
so all I'm saying is let's not be
let's just get back to the point of
four hours ago
let's not be dropping bombs
on countries and not that
Ernie has said this by the way
but let's not be dropping bombs on countries
because they have Sharia law
and they're not doing it the right way
that we're free and they're not
because if anyone says
they're not free and we are
I will throw that up your ass
for anybody
because what someone thinks is free
is not free to somebody else
and I personally have lived through this
I personally thought
I knew what freedom was
and everybody else was full of shit
because I got the American flag
and I got the Constitution
and I have Thomas Jefferson
and I went to freedom
and everybody else was full of shit
and you all have been brainwashed
and you're a propaganda
and after living too long
I've been living too long
I guess
is I have learned the hard way
in many ways for my wife living in India
me being in Japan and Mongolia
and China and the Philippines
and I can keep going and going and going
and just many of you listening know
what I'm talking about
is that this
this mindset
of good versus evil
and freedom versus non-freedom and all of this
gets much more murky
and so the issue is
and this is where Ernie and I probably agree
is that the issue is
just don't get involved
don't be bombing other countries
with this mindset that we know better
and of course we've gotten completely off topic
of what we should have been talking about
for the whole day
which is
Joe Kent and about
how the system is manipulating us
but at the end of the day though
it comes down to culture when people think
because this is a culture also
and I'll throw it to you Ernie and I thank you
and I seriously thank you
hey I'm thanking you come and be nice
I'm thanking you for the patience
but this gets into culture
that also culture
involves religion
and I have been hearing
a word giving some kind of
a lot of people but
dopamine hit or something by saying it
well but the Scofield Bible
the Scofield Bible of Christians
and the Third Temple
and all of this and that gets into
culture
now you might say it's religion
but it's religious culture
and this is where
if 90% of Americans
were Christian
and if 90 or roughly
80 to 90% of Christians
were Scofield Bible people
who all believed that the Third Temple
had to be blown up or rebuilt
or whatever
I'm not personally
I'm not in favor of that and Ernie's not
but I would at least
understand
why this country
decides with 90%
that it's gotta rebuild the
temple because Jesus is third coming
or whatever
two minutes that's fine I get that
like at least I understand
but where it's coming from
just like the Muslims have their view
the Shinto have their review
because it's cultural
but when you have and Ernie is running
into this problem now
where when everybody has their own view
of religion and culture
and language and food
and Ernie thinks when I say food
he thinks I'm wasting his time on that
no food is very part of this
but when everyone has their own
interpretations of everything
and then you wind up with 10%
or 20% according to
our friend Andrew
using his last name
that 20% of Christians
who are also 50%
of this country
Andrew may join us next week
to have this discussion
thank you I'm glad you are
but if only 50% of the country
is Christian and 20%
of the Christians are
Scofield Bible people
who think that if I don't kiss the ass of
Israel then I'm going to hell
and those are the people running our
government which is what Andrew
thank God all of you should be listening
to that show when it comes up
that is a cultural issue
this is not 95%
of Americans believing X
this is our country with Muslims
and Buddhists and Sikhs
and even Ernie knows a certain
Sikh in my family and we've got
so many different disparity
religious freedoms that Ernie goes
yeah freedom we love freedom
but you know what
but you know what you get from freedom
with different religions and canned cultures
and everything everyone's doing their own
goddamn thing and so it's like hurting
cats and Ernie thinks
somehow that's easy that's good for freedom
I think hurting cats
ultimately negates your freedom
because what we're going to see
from this whole war in Iran
whether you like it or not like it
is and I think Ernie I'll throw it
to you but the one thing Ernie and I
will agree on and I know
Ernie will agree with me and if Ernie
doesn't agree with me I will pay him
a hundred dollars and that is
right you ready Ernie you want to make
a hundred bucks you ready
a hundred bucks Ernie's going to agree
with me I know this is like shocking
is that given what's happening right
now with the war
the so-called unofficial war as I ran
blah blah blah blah blah
we will lose our rights
so do you think we're going to lose
our rights more or gain rights
given this you will agree
we're going to lose rights correct
anyway I might lose yours
I might lose mine
anyway the point is
is that all this is going to do we're going to lose
rights I'm sure Ernie doesn't think we're going to
gain rights given all this
this is idiot
this is idiotic
anyway go ahead Ernie go ahead
tell me if I'm wrong or right that's why I don't care
go
we're going to end the show because we're not getting to
what we should be
discussing but we'll
wrap it up here next week
we're going to have Andrew a good young friend of ours
that has been
doing a lot of this and I want to have this discussion
because
I ordered I just got
I gave it to Donna to read the late great
planet earth now there's a lot
of controversy
in that to where he goes
yeah the rebuilding of the third
temple you know the
battle armageddon
eyes will be consumed from their
sockets flesh from the bones
Christ coming the new Jerusalem
the red heifer
to consecrate the site
so I read this is like
in the 70s and I read it
late 70s early 80s it had
a big impact on me it was a lot of
you know just I what what's this all about
you know kind of there is you know
the silent majority
of the Nixon start talking about
the Christians of and and
you were bad if you
voted I mean you got
in the politics and everything there's a
kingdom you know that over this
one and why are you worried about and doesn't
matter and don't care and
then it was like oh no we gotta get are you
born again Christian Reagan
are you born Christian
yeah are you born again did you do it right
you know and pastor Chuck
Baldwin was part of that moral majority
morning Christian
breakfast with the president kind of crap through
the 80s and as
time went on he started to see
how politicized religion got to be might as well be
the moolas so he's just like
nope nope nope I'm out of this
I'm not making the church
susceptible to their whims
and their faith based initiatives and
they get we get access to your church
database and you get a little bit of government money
and kind of then all of a sudden it became
you know church of the state and which ones
are which ones aren't and do you
file with a blah blah blah blah
blah so
pastor Chuck Baldwin
so we're scheduling to have him on it's probably
not going to be until April you know
to where our schedules line up so
we'll have him on he writes for Freemans
Phoenix quite a bit and we'll have him
on talk about this he's done full series
on Revelation well
then there is the Scofield Bible we had
Christian Zionism was a movie
that we helped get
made and produced and you can find it on
rumble now still but it was
very damning it was
you know Israel had infiltrated
the seminaries
for where they trained pastors
to go into Christian churches
but it had footnotes that was
like longer than the damn Bible
and it was all about
how you twist sermons
and this passage and this
into Christians
aren't good Christians unless
they perpetuate the idea
that we must support the
state of Israel
with money blood treasure whatever
you're not going to heaven unless you're
support of Israel that was a
campaign to insert
themselves into the general public
opinion of which
Frank cause culture okay
so I'm going all right
now just to
you know get some facts straight here
the bill of rights was primarily
written by
Madison so
Jay's Madison was the primary
author and you know the
amendments in 1789
so this is like
13 years after the declaration
you know during the first congress
now Jefferson played
you know a role he was a key
influencer he urged
he was reluctant that Madison
you know
just
not add
rights that were
to the constitution that were
against government
it was a 10 thou shalt not the
government that was kind of the point
so this is so when I
talk about these guys
you know Thomas Paine
does common sense
you know the cause what's the cause
well he wrote this pamphlet
George Washington gave it out to all
the continental army you know this is
for the cause whatever the cause was
well that was a man
I think he was only in the US
God less than a year or two
you know before he wrote that he came here
to get away from all this crap and he's
like what the hell what's it about
well what do you say you do here
why did I come here
so common sense
then you have
some of the
founders they do credit
you know they just wanted to have a government
be able to fund some wars
that's Hamilton you know
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson
you know I think they
they were born on the same day
they died on the same day
you know there's a lot of commonality
between them Quincy Adams
John Adams son
you know finally Jefferson
congratulated them they started up a correspondence
and went on and these letters
have been done back and forth that they
a lot of the quotes from Jefferson's from that correspondence
you know of course he was
primary writer of the declaration
and am I defending
the men
no the concepts
the ideas
the rhetoric that
was going back and forth between the
Federalists and the Anti-Federalists arguing
over the
adoption of the Constitution
whether it even should be
it was under false pretenses
they were there to do a weight
and measure thing you know from the dollar
and you know decimal system
and all of a sudden they get this whole new document
because they didn't like the article's confederation
because they'd collectivize it and not
and Hamilton wanted to be able
you know his father-in-law
linked Bank of England to fund the
we get to buy up the old Continentals
get full dollar for dollar kind of like
they're bankers
it's all banking bullshit
so they wanted to have a national bank
they do it we're like on our third one
so you know this is and they're going to
get rid of that and go to stable coins
I mean it's just the same shit
over and over do I give a crap about
the individuals
no it's the ideas
it's the debate
it's the concepts it's the argument
over what
was the proper rule of government
the defense of individual rights
who wrote it
doesn't matter
do I care
so when it comes down to things like
you know can you
have and this is what Frank is
I think
not putting words in his mouth
can you have
freedom
in a country
that doesn't have
a single culture
do you have a
unifying
culture
like Japan he's so
you know fond of
can you have a single happiness
culture
like the Amish that had their owner
they feel free are they happy
can you have a single
free country
without a single
culture
I will agree with Frank
probably
not
so what would that
single culture be
the freedom
and the
recognized liberty
for you to have
your own fucking culture
how about that culture
how about
I got a plan
for you to have
your own plan
how about that
no that is not
acceptable
to Frank
that is why
I don't like having this conversation
because we always come down
to that single thing
you think I don't know
you think I don't understand
I understand perfectly
Frank
thinks there should be
a single culture
of
I have no idea what that culture would be
Frank is going to go yep
you got to have a culture of
something whatever it is
let me finish
you can correct me after I make this statement
so what I keep saying
in response to that
what do I care
what holidays
beer food
a tire
whatever that happens around this country
as long as it doesn't
affect the
culture of your freedom
to do it
well the Somali
go into Minnesota and they're going to have
Sharia law
is there going to be Sharia law on me
no okay well I don't give a shit
they can do whatever the hell they want
I want to ask you a question
remember I forget his name
actually from the movie the matrix
and the matrix of libertarianism
goes so hand in hand
but do you remember the name of the guy
what was the name
of the guy who was part of
the Morpheus team
and he was talking about the red pill
and blue pill and he was the one
that decided to be blue-pilled
remember the guy I forget his name
but he was the Italian guy
and he was told by agent Smith
that if you sell out Neo
and Morpheus
you know what I've learned
is that ignorance is bliss
right right exactly
exactly so he's the guy that's like
you know what I know
what reality is but I'd rather go back
into whatever I want
and I'm just
and I know from our point of view
and even from the movie's point of view
is that guy was the a-haul and he was the
sell out and he was
the turncoat and we could go all kinds of names
but from a certain point of view
you could argue I mean
does he really want to live in a world where
everything's miserable and you're fighting
robots whereas he could be living
in a world where you know it's like
alright you can go to the movies and you watch
the Oscars and you can get
girlfriends off of Tinder like
I don't know like like what's freedom
you know I mean I mean
our point of view is freedom is reality
but is that really what it is
so let me ask you the guy that
sold out and wanted to be blue-pilled again
do you think
he was giving up his freedom
or do you think he was in many ways in his own way
getting his own freedom back
how would you define that
I think that was a really good
example his name was Cypher
the um
his idea
of freedom
he goes yeah I
I'm doing what Morpheus says all the time
you know I'm living
in you know the dank ship
of I gotta
wake up do what he says go to sleep
and wake up again do what he says
not like
I want to be make me
an actor I want to be rich
I want to
you know what I've discovered I know this steak
isn't real
I know it's not it's
going to taste juicy
and savory in my mouth
but you know what I've discovered
ignorance
is bliss
there are people like that
should you have
in your culture
allow them
to live in their matrix world
hell a lot of them do
they're online doing whatever you know
virtual reality this is coming
so they're going to Neuralink
and you're not allowed
you're allowed peace
be all brain dead
you want oh you want me to pay
for feeding you you want me to put
a you know a food tube in your stomach
you want an IV of me
no take care
of yourself you know
that culture I keep
saying this over
and over
but what it comes down to and the reason that
Frank keeps trying to defend this
is because he wants to have
the art from his experience
of traveling around the world
of seeing grinning Japanese
or whatever
whatever the hell his experience has been
is that
they are happy
by his perception
they are unified by his perception
because they have
a single harmonious
culture
of which I respond
every freaking
time
fine I want
a culture
I was promised
a culture
there are documents of a culture
that you get to have your own
personal pursuit
of happiness
that you can live in what and
in America
that's pretty much what we live
in around the world
do you have as many
different cultures inside
a country
well if you do
a lot of times the government is trying to beat it out of you
which is what they are trying to do here
why
because they want a single
culture of I pledge allegiance
to the flag Merca
in elementary school
I have a single culture of
we all accept the trans
and you know you got to have
a black lesbian
transvestite whatever
CEO and so many percentage of
ESG DEI
corporations of whatever the hell
that's the culture
that they want
what they don't want is a culture
that allows you to do whatever the hell you want
as long as you're not
making me fund it
making me participate in it
making me support it
saying I have to do it in my business
I have to do it with my family
I have where's the freedom
part of that it's out
and
sacrificed
for a harmonious
homogenized
single culture
dictated to us
by them those
and the fact that Frank
insists that their only way to
have freedom
is to have a single
unifying culture
of the
never said that
audience
is that what you got from him or not
audience I want to hear
please I want to hear from you audience
so
people that are there still
I know
it is amazing to me
how many people come to listen to the whole
freaking thing
God help them
I am like
really
and I do ask this question
who talks more me or Frank
me
but
you know they just remember
my stuff more
oh
they just remember me talking
they do
so correct
that point
that you believe
that without a harmonious
single
unifying
culture
you can't have freedom
and my point is
that culture
is not about
anything
other than your freedom
to pursue your own happiness
in any way you want
with anyone you want
as long as it doesn't violate my pursuit
I don't care and it doesn't matter
and you are going yes it does
we all have to be
you know eating hot dogs or something
I have no idea
you keep going back to that
that Frank Sambore
has the shiny bad
this is what you keep saying
and that's what you're saying
that's not your position
it's not what I'm saying
what do you say
you keep thinking
that when I talk about this culture issue
you can't help yourself
but think that what I'm
talking about is
the dog with
the man
you're cutting out
I can't
the Lord doesn't want you to be able to say
what you want to say
So I go go ahead and say I
Can't you're you're not coming in and I really wanted to hear this
All right, we're gonna end the show but go ahead, you know hang up and come back in
There it happened anyway, but
Because I really want to do because this is what I think the audience can understand why I feel this
But I do think he says it is that we have to have a single
Harmonious culture in order to have freedom now. He says that's not his position. So now unmute yourself
What is your advocacy Frank?
You're on mute
You're muted
All right, now he's coming back in again
Okay, now I got you on another thing
By the way, I got I have to say Ernie I think looks like he's 89 years old
you know why I'm saying that because
Because he's been touched by God like you said it's like God doesn't want me to
Sit down for him to hear me. So I think Ernie's like Moses here
I get cut off so I think Ernie's bequeathed by God. So I'll give it to you
Anyway, I'm afraid
Freedom without a single unifying country culture that has been what I hear from you
Constantly I'm going I don't care if we can have the culture of freedom for you to have your own culture
Boom we're done and you're like no
We have a culture that needs to be not something or has to be something or something and I'm like
I don't care. I just want to have the freedom to have my own. Yeah, but your position is what?
Okay, so so very quickly I brought the Amish if you talk to an Amish person and you ask them
Are they free? They think they're free
They think they're freer than Ernie Hancock is and I would have your audience and wait wait
No, I would say who's freer and forget some pedantic
Technicals about things an Amish person who's raised as raised Amish and is around his family and lives in the same world
And eats the same foods and sings the same song goes the same churches
And like everything is completely normal in their world. It's copacetic. Do they think they're oppressed now?
They are they aren't Ernie might sit back and say are they really free?
They're in America and they had to sell out and maybe they're not
In their world they're happy and they're free and then you look and then you look at Ernest Hancock
Who's spent and and and this is not meant to be a cheap shot. It's actually a compliment to Ernie
But you've got Ernie who let's just say spends more time than anyone listening
Right now to this to this show God help you if you are I don't think there's any of you
Any of you who spends more time trying to fight for their version of freedom
Then my friend and he does drive my blood pressure up Ernest Hancock
Ernie is the quintessential Hancock
I mean he is it's liberty in his bones in his DNA and I love him for that
But I'm just not earth go even though Ernie drives me crazy, but Ernie, you know every day
I mean all it is this like how many shows does he do how many hours is he fighting and he's sitting there
And he's doing this he's doing that and he's he's getting his own bulldoze there
And he's telling the man to scruff and not to mention
I mean this very sincerely because he and I both had issues with the man and
Ernie to his credit went all the way to DC and took him on and and he almost lost his liberties over everything
And I cannot I can I don't even the words to stress how much respect I have for Ernie for that
And I'm just saying this is what Ernest and Donna has done and his kids
Which I won't mention their names have all done for the sense of liberty
So I in no way in any effing way
Undermine the fight for liberty ongoing the fact that you know
The Ron Paul and the whole the whole liberty movement
You're the only asshole that I'm sitting a kiss butt to you and you still complain. It's unbelievable
But anyway, I'm just saying that no, it's gonna be followed up with what's coming. So just bring it
I'm just I'm just saying that you know Ernie has done and I'm not trying to kiss his butt because I won't do that
But I'm being fair
I mean, he's an example of someone who's fought every which way and we all have libertarian
People that we know including many of you listening who have fought in your own way Peter shift with his own father
And we know we go all day different examples
I thought we've all fought for freedom in our own way and we're sitting there
Trying to fight for our version of liberty what we think is freedom and we still never feel like it's enough
I mean, let's just be honest our what we think liberty and freedom is keeps going away year by year by year
I mean if any of you think we have a free society without a single culture if any of you
Listening think we have more freedom in 2026 then 2025
Give me a call and if any of you think we have more freedom in 2026 then 2015 give me a call or
2010 I'm just saying just give me a call all I know is I believe that our freedoms keep losing year after year after year
And we keep fighting from the perspective of the Ernie Hancock version of liberty and freedom
And I'm not trying to make light of that, but if you happen to be an Amish person
All of this is just noise
All of this is like you're somewhere else of your Japanese or your North Korean
This is no matter and they don't care as far as yeah as far as they're concerned
They have their religion. They have their language. They have their friends
They have their copacetic and being copacetic and lack of chaos lack of
Diversity that creates chaos and I'm not you know creates a sense of tranquility and
Peacefulness and many people interpret that as their version of freedom now. I understand from Ernie
He was like so we should have a free. I'm just saying I guess this freedom and tranquility
They are different words
Clearly and this is where Ernie would probably say I don't care about tranquility. I'd rather have fights and
murders and
Destruction as long as I have my freedom and and and I am in no way
Freedom to stop such freedom
but but the thing is many times one man what they think is freedom or what they think is you know as oppression is
another man's tranquility and freedom a free society
Without a single
Culture of whatever the hell it is that you want a single culture about I don't I'm not saying I want a single culture
I'm just pointing out that freedom and tranquility and culture. These are separate things, but they're also intertwined and
And that's all I'm trying to point out is is that you
Gazillion times over hours and my statement why you can't you cannot you cannot even comment on my comment that
freedom
being at liberty
To correct your circumstance your happenstance the pursuit of your happiness is what the promise was of this country
That is the culture what you do with your free hundred years ago
I could not possibly give a shit about no matter how many you know lines of Clorox you want to snort, you know
That's 200 years ago
But don't you think that what not now?
No, let me read before I piss you off because I know I will let me just say that my view of freedom is
Let's just say for argument's sake is the same as yours, but what I'm saying is culturally
Can you at least agree that a culture's view of what you think freedom?
200 years ago the change of what they think freedom is later
No, oh really now I agree with you cult like
Personally, but culturally I disagree and I know that
Argument was the argument a thousand years ago. What was the argument for the Christians?
What was the argument for the Vikings? What was the argument for the Magna Carta? What was the argument for the creation of?
America what what is the argument do you own yourself are you property of a king?
Are you property are you mandated and prevented from doing whatever the hell it is by some?
government or the
Sheriff in Nottingham or whatever the hell that's what the argument has been says for fucking ever
John Locke that was the whole point that influenced the founders
They're going to look we don't give a shit what you do as long as you're not
violating someone else's right to do what they want to do and that you are responsible for you and
Your property and your family that is it and now whatever people do fine
I'm going to the festival of the whatever
You know flying dragon lighted candle lift up, you know chinatown
Whatever the hell or you know st. Patrick's day parade or doing the via. I don't give a shit
That is not what's part of my culture
It's you know st. Patrick's day part of my culture when I feel like it we're agreeing
You know held on and I go whoop st. Patrick day should we put on some green?
I mean, you know, it's just that is is that part of our culture
the freedom
To celebrate it the freedom to acknowledge it the freedom to allow it the freedom to put up my christmas tree the day before
Thanksgiving the freedom to whatever that
Is the culture and you can't acknowledge that
well
I definitely acknowledge it
I would just say I think we're going to go round and around but when my daughter turns 15 16
We already found this school over in Beijing
She's going to a international language school like I did in japan
And we're going to be spending time in japan and uh china
And I want you and dana to be our guests and join us. You're going to join us
In china
Yeah, I want you guys to come with seriously my my daughter's going to be the boss though
She's going to be talking chinese and get us around but what do you think she'll keep us out of trouble?
What do you think where when when's this?
When she turns like 15 16, it's about like eight years away, but you know just thrown it out there
You up for it. We're not in you know world war four by then
Absolutely, guys. Nobody will let me pursue my happiness
Because frank's got a culture for me that I got a goose step to
yeah
I want to get
The culture police on Ernie, of course
But you know, some of you can handle the culture police
I think I think I would love and I mean it sincerely
I think we should all go and it'll be great and you know, my daughter would keep us out of jail
Hopefully, you know, she'll be able to give them the the wink and knows the secret handshake and and mandarin
But uh, no pretty little white girls aren't allowed to speak mandarin. You're going to jail
That's not exactly that's all reason. I want her no mandarin to keep me out of prison
When I go to China so I get facial recognition in their system. That'd be a good idea
Of course, it'll be here in America. You know, this is you know, I
From now on
Every time you come up with culture thing
It's going to be
Zeroed in on this concept
what
That I believe that all arguments that you have for this is that you come down to
Without a unified
culture
Recognized
I have no idea in law, you know, you know in the court precedent of
According to frank laid whatever the hell it is, you know for america that we're not going to be able to be free
That we're not going to have a harmonious
Tranquil existence because we don't have a common something and I'm like, yeah
I kind of agree with that. You know, our day culture
is freedom
Not that freedom is is a side effect of a unified harmonious culture. I don't believe that at all
So I I want to ask you since because I know no one who's half smart is still listening to our show right now
God bless you guys
Seriously, but I mean I want to ask you a question
What do you know you and I are
We're we're good friends. I love you and and now we get along and we agree on most everything, right?
I mean from the ron paul revolution, you know, charles going I mean we can go all day
No, just socially we get along fine
Right, right, right. We we get along until he brings up cultures. No, no, that's my point
We get along almost everything except that ernie still watches new star trek and I think he's full of crap
I don't know what's happened to his brain, but anyway, yeah
Sucks man
Discovery and starfleet academy. Yeah, I'm not a fan
Oh
Ernie's late to the party on that one, but but aside from that
Ernie and I agree
We've come to the same conclusions from different perspectives and I think that's important to point out
You know, you can have different journeys and come to the same place
So we agree on
We agree on for the most part 99% of almost everything and I and I don't know what hardly anything ernie and I
Disagree on to be honest
um
But with that
We'll accept that trump is awesome. Trump's gonna save the world, but we won't go there
Do you still believe that?
Of course not. Oh god
Ernie was losing blood pressure before the show on that one
But uh, but anyway, but we agree on almost everything most of the way
But every time the c word comes up
It turns into this and I don't know, you know, if any of you are stupid enough to keep listening to the show
I think a lot of you do and I mean this respectfully
I think you get it if nothing else whether you're team ernie or team frank
I think you're realizing that there's something there and i'm just wondering
How is it that you
And not to be a trick question, but how do you in your own way process
That you and I agree on almost everything and you know, i'm not stupid. I know you're not stupid
We both get it in many ways
But how is it we get to this
This line in the sand and then we are with this whole breakdown every time about culture and you flip out
And and and and one last point I want to ask you because you insist on wait wait wait wait wait
I want to ask i'm going to ask you your question about what it is that you think i'm missing
But before you do
And this is not and I swear to you my friend i'm not trying to make a cheap shot
But isn't it intriguing that the one area that you and I agree on everything
But we disagree on this the one thing that makes us different is that I have spent many time many years
Overseas and you haven't and i'm not trying to be a jerk
I'm just saying doesn't that say something to you about this debate that we keep having
And it's not that I want a shiny badge and i'm in charge of freedom
And i'm telling you blah blah blah we keep you keep throwing that at me like and that's not true
But do you like what what is it if it's not about me living overseas that has nothing to do with it
What is it you somehow think i'm missing go ahead
For some reason
Because you have experience around the way i mean i've been out of the country
I mean i'm not i'm in new europe or africa or asia
But i mean you know it it's not like i don't know people that are russian
And i don't know people that are rainy and i don't know i know a lot of people i'm 65 in the freedom movement
It's not like i haven't met and interviewed freaking people all over so i'm not totally oblivious to what's going on
And i study history and i read books and i deal with whatever so i'm not totally isolated and i'm more on
I agree
You know and just taking a trip to mexico and panama the first thing you learn is that it's only the americans that are fat
I mean you know i just fyi
and um so this is the
What i feel that our disconnect is
Is that i always am looking for a base
fundamental
What do you do humans and humanity have in common because it's way more than they have
differences
And that's why this philosophy of the liberty project that we're doing as i think is so important because my experience has been
Is that when you start
Putting out the concept and the idea
That people own themselves
That they are not subject to
Their rulers their leaders their sovereigns their kings their queens their presidents their prime ministers love that
Like donald trump is doing if you're not
Rhyme with him. You're not maga anymore. You're a trader margaret taylor green
You're a subversive
Dissident of whatever tucker carlson. You need to be shot and killed or whatever the hell going on
Charlie kirk if you're not in with whatever it is that
Israel and america and they them those in the bankers or whatever want
Then you're not part of polite society and should be therefore shunned with tax money and surveillance
and i'm going
whoa
This has been obvious and demonstrated
So i'm going what is a unifying?
cultural
american
Thing that we can all grasp around and embrace
the philosophy of liberty
That video
That thing that kin school and did the pictures of jonathan gull but it was a touchstone for all libertarian activists
Since for freaking ever since the early 90s
When the internet first started getting going that was passed around everywhere
It was suppressed so much that we got d-dost for promoting it in arab spring. We get d-dost and
Beat up by jantapolitano here and the governor of sonora and everything we did it in spanish
And they fire you know the guy that promoted you kind of do whatever
I see why they go after it so much because that is
The culture that i was promised
By the documents the founders the argument the rhetoric and the discussion and debate that went around the creation of this freaking country
and it was
enshrined in the declaration of independence and
the bill of rights
But the constitution allowed for its demise if you could get in charge of the three branches of government
You'll find yourself
constitutionally in a free speech zone
So i'm going okay
What is
the culture
frank
Gets my ire up because he argues what everybody else
All of these countries all of i don't give a crown i don't got to visit them
They're all arguing for our unifying culture for this afghanistan under the taliban is
By the clerics and i and the mullahs of is by the king and queen prime
You know prime minister of united kingdom is justin trudeau is it is by
esg dei global warming united nations of freaking
Davos world economic forum whatever they all got a unifying
Worldwide single currency whatever the hell it is
culture
They will not and do not recognize that there can be should be
Was and eventually
Inevitably because humanity keeps marching on after the fourth turning ashes from lady liberties torch rebirth of freedoms phoenix
Whatever i keep arguing there will always be
The aspiration by people that give a shit that understand for a culture
Of you get to have your own pursuit of happiness and i don't give a shit
It doesn't need to be the same
Thing other than your allowance to have whatever you want to raise your family and your children
Under as long as it comports to the idea that you get to do it without bothering somebody else
But governments
require the idea that we're on
Red blue team whatever team
against anyone
That disagrees with it or a dissident or doesn't follow the program or whatever
That they must be beaten into submission so that it takes a village to make you raise your children the way they want
I see that over and over and over and that is the argument
What i feel frank represents and the reason i even wanted to do the trump report was to emphasize
that point
That the culture that the goal of politics
Of dissidents of agreement disagreement the discussion
is about
Are you at liberty from a central plan a government the jurisdiction of we got a court and guns and
three branches of the whatever
Are you at liberty
to be free
Freedom i'm not in shackles
Nobody's holding me down. I don't got a boot on my neck. I get up when I want I fashion what I want
I want my tractor do what I want
I'm free to do what I want
But am I at liberty to
Do I have a clipboard waiting on me backed up by a gun
For me to do what I want as long as one on my property
And I'm not bothering anybody else. I'm not putting a laser beam in their window. I'm not surveilling them
I'm not playing loud music. I'm not I'm not
Violating their pursuit of their own individual happiness
I gotta let my mask get this and and I appreciate the time Ernie. I really mean that
I know this seems like a waste to you because you think you get frustrated
But I think the audience finds some value in this. I hope if not, you know, we'll end it
But I'm just curious like
I didn't tell you this
I was gonna send you a text or a picture of this and I didn't
So I've been hiking. I live by a mountain
Ernie knows this I live right on the mountain top
And I've been you know, the weather has been great in Arizona. By the way, if you have a motorcycle in Arizona
This is the time. Oh, I know this is the time. This is amazing motorcycle
No, exactly
Anyway, I went hiking and I do a long hike. I go to the it was like different peaks, uh, like south mountain kind of area
Um, we're more as a technically it's north mountain
But anyway, so I'm hiking and normally in the mountain range. I'm at there's not many hikers. It's very
Very low impact, which I like, you know, when I hike
I might run into one person if that
So it's very few people ever there also
When I hike and this might be moot to the to my story
I actually hike right by shadow mountain church
For those of you don't know shadow mountain church is a huge mega church
Right nestled inside this like little valley of the mountain
And that is the church that donald trump
Comes to every time whenever trump comes to Arizona because the republicans have a deal with that place
It's a big parking lot. It's a beautiful, you know scenery and they do all their like state conventions or county conventions
It's a republican freaking miles will be headquarter
No, no exactly exactly and it's uh, you know, whatever the deal is i'm curious whatever it is
But you know to the we're not getting into the politics of it, which is true
You know here
Arizona is one of the only states though where it's so hot that you just can't have you know
65 year old women or 70 year olds hanging out, you know for hours waiting to get through, you know, secret service
They're just gonna pass out and die like literally. I mean, that's how hot it is in arizona
So anyway, you know, whatever it is. They have this church here and it happens to be literally my backyard
Like whenever I go hiking i'm seeing the place that donald trump comes to every day
So anyways, I I was I was hiking around
And I did my hike to just the other day first the first time and well
I've been doing it since spring, you know coming around. It's all good
So I get to the top of the mountain
And normally there's never anybody there and I get to the top and there's this guy standing
kneeling down
And this he kind of freaked me out because you know, he was he was kneeling
And he saw me get to the top which normally there's never anybody there and he pops up all flustered and he looks at me
And you know, it's okay. He realized I wasn't trying to hit him or hurt him and you know, whatever the point is
He was on the mountaintop
Literally overlooking literally right over
The church that donald trump comes to the christian church the mega church where they have all the mega stuff
And this man
Right exactly exactly and the man at the top of the mountain
And I was there at sunset
was a muslim
And you know, am I against muslims? No, so I'm gonna just be clear. I'm not trying to you know get into that crap
But I had never seen this before and there was he was he was at the top of the mountain
Facing sunset
Now I found out later when I looked as I started looking into this, you know, I mean because I'm a dumb ass
Guess what this past week was it was ramadan ramadan. Exactly. We had ramadan
So plus ramadan while we have a religious war with uh, pete heads kegseff and all the crap that we started to share with
But all I know is I'm hiking just trying to stay away from politics
Ernie won't believe that one. I was listening to a star wars book actually
Don't tell anybody and I'm here at the top and all of a sudden I see this guy
Bowling down and he had the koran open the book. I mean I saw he actually said the koran
You know didn't so many words
And so I have a muslim bowing down, you know to the sun with the koran open
On the mountain that I go to every day or you know every few days probably a good place to do that
No, absolutely. No, no from a muslim's point of view. God bless them, you know, and he's doing this
Literally with the church that donald trump goes to of all the christians
Literally like right in the same you can't even escape the frame of reference there. Is he at liberty to do so?
Absolutely earnest
Uh, you know, what are you expecting me to say? No, he didn't have the shiny badge. He's not allowed
No, I'm just pointing out that that's the first time I've seen that and you know, it turns into a
into a
Question, you know, I mean, I mean not to you
So I'm not going to ask you this because Ernie's was going to yell at me
He's gonna say you don't get it right, you know what the word freedom means and yes, I do understand freedom means
But on the other hand you can start to ask
I mean, I've never seen this before
Ever I mean I can't I'm start thinking of my of my grandparents my grandpa
John johnny, you know, I mean just you know diehard roman catholic
Whatever now, I'm not trying to say that the whole country has to be roman catholic
But you know the country came from that background christian christianity. I mean in catholicism
I mean, you know jfk consider a great president you have you know, uh, you know and god we trust them
We can go all day and remember i'm coming from an asius buddhist background for many of you newbies who don't listen to the show a lot
I am not trying to propagate
Christianity I respect christianity because it created and formed our culture and our country
Which ernie gets all upset about when I mention that even on the buddhist that's the that's the funny thing
But i'm looking at this
As you know, I go hiking and for the first time i'm seeing a muslim on the top
I didn't see christians with him. He was all by himself and look all power to him
You know, I mean if anything anyone that really is that
Dedicated to god and their religion. I have respect for I mean, I just mean that
But when we have christians that are avoiding the church
And and then we have you know, we have unfettered immigration which ernie and his live die hard that libertarian friends go
Frank you're a fascist, you know, anyone can come whenever they want. Okay, so now we have all bunch of muslims coming in
You know, are they peaceful frank? Are they blowing people up? Are you are you buying the kool aid frank?
You know, that's what i'm gonna hear. So like, you know, I'll just go with the crap that I hear from ernie
So like no, I'm not I'm not saying these people are doing any of this
But you have a culture change culture frank. I don't hear a good word culture in our show
So so this is where all the roadblocks come up
But suddenly all the sudden I have a muslims right bowing down to a la, you know on my mountain
Right over the goddamn church that donald trump comes to bow down to for the same christians
They're telling him he needs to bomb iran because otherwise we don't have the third temple
You see what i'm getting to? I mean, this is all f stuff
So like and i'm not for any of this stuff. I just want to come and say i'm not i'm not rooting for any religion
i'm gonna be clear
But i'm talking about this word culture that ernie gets all bent out of shape about
And so let's say more because ernie wants open borders
So we have more muslims coming here and now next year I come on my hill and mountain
And I got 10 people bound down to a la at sunset at ramadan and ernie's gonna go
What's your problem frank? Are you trying to say you're gonna have the shiny badge?
Are you in charge now? I'm gonna hear all that crap and i'm gonna say no i'm not
But guess what the culture changes the next so you know the year after that you got 50 people
Bowling down to ramadan on you know the temple and all of a sudden i'm like kicked off the
I'm sure they won't kick me off the mountain
But let's just say you start to feel a bit uncomfortable as I was to be completely honest
I threw me off and I went down
This is not this is on me
But I went i'm going down a different path because I didn't want to
Intersect with this guy and I went down a different path and I got lost and I had to find a different way off
The mountain and off a different path. I just and that was me. I will be honest, but it did throw me off
So now after how many years does this occur?
Until suddenly
You know enough people are here and they vote for someone who was all in favor of ramadan and was muslim
And then they say you know like the guy from new york
And they want sharia law here and they say that my daughter and ernie's grandchildren granddaughters
Have to wear a head scarf
I mean, you know ernie's gonna go. Oh, I like that. Well, you know
I mean I can step back and say and I told you so from day one
And ernie's gonna flip out and give me 10,000 reasons why I just don't get it and I didn't hear it and all this
And i'm not trying to you know do when I told just so because i'm not like that
But you know, it's like
This is the ultimate quandary
How do you balance ultimate freedom with cultural freedom and of of who you are
Ernie can sit back and say it's all about freedom. What do you think i'm going to say?
Well, I'm really looking forward to it because all I know is i'm already seeing the change
Right now. I've lived here. How many years? I've lived for five six years. I moved here right before covid
I've been in this area even longer than that. I've been here for nine ten years
I have never ever and I've hiked this mountain for nine
Years and I hiked this mountain a lot far as and Keith has been with me many times on this mountain
I have never ever ever ever ever ever seen anyone bowing down
So it's a muslim ramadan until just the other day at the same time that we're going the war and all this other crap
So given ernie's, you know the version of war of the world that he doesn't care doesn't matter
Is that if we if we continue in this this vein?
It would not surprise me that in five eight years that my daughter will have to wear a headscarf
And if that happens, I'm curious what ernie's view is is this view is well, you know what?
It's all for freedom and whoever came here and I don't care about culture
Nothing matters and I'm out in the middle of the desert and it doesn't matter blah blah blah
Or are you going to sit back and maybe say you know culture?
Maybe actually matters ultimately at how this plays out because you know the people for sharia law
They feel just as strongly as I was saying before about whether you save your kids
Or your parents from a burning building and both sides have a point
And you can't argue that your version of reality is better than someone else's because it's cultural
Something that I know you have a hard time with and I don't mean that to be an asshole. I'm just saying it's just
I don't have a hard time at all. So I'm asking. I know it's all about freedom freedom. It's all right
So I'm done making my case. I'm very interested. How is your interpretation of this go?
What do you think it is?
You're gonna well, I mean your your version. I don't care. Doesn't matter. I mean you're gonna have to throw that out
Just no you brought up a good
Sure, I mean it is
Next year you go up. So I don't know
You go damn. I do I want to take on Ramadan. I got you know
I'm not gonna do Ramadan. You're my own thing. So, yeah, you do your own thing
You know, but the point is until how many people because you don't vote you go out of your way
It's a hundred thousand
You're not you're not gonna vote
So when the Muslims come and they vote and then they say
Your grandkids have to wear a head scarf
Then what are you gonna say? Then what are you gonna say?
Well, you know what?
You know, I didn't vote so I don't care and I don't care and I don't care and doesn't matter
But all of a sudden your grand granddaughters are wearing head scarfs. Then what's your answer to that go?
You know, I it's amazing that you don't know my answer
How do you not know what my answer
Without saying that go ahead and give me a real answer go
A real answer
What if what if I mean just what if
the culture
Was that they are perfectly encouraged allowed
To go up on the mountain
bow to the east
west whatever
and celebrate in honor
their religion
Their god during Ramadan or any other time
It's public property. I mean, that's a whole another thing too with libertarians
But you have tragedies or comments what we're gonna well, we want to use it. We're doing it. We're going up, you know
What do they call it? But yes, yes, it was peak now. It has to be squat peak whatever it's called squat peak
So you go um, uh, what if they just do that? What if they you know take over and they have um
Call the prayer, you know
You know in minnesota or where the hell it is what if they're doing what if what if what if okay?
Well, what if
The culture was you know one don't be a dick
And two that you're free to do whatever the hell you want as long as you're not violating my
Pursuit of happiness and the peaceful enjoyment of my property
What if that were the culture?
It wouldn't matter, you know, you seem to forget that here in arizona. We are heavily influenced with architecture
catholic influence
Mormon influence
Um, it's really influence right in his span. Yeah the downtown, you know, there's a
Uh, the story of the jews, you know big time. It's on saturday. They're walking the synagogue all time or whatever and they're
You know black hats and long cyber and kind of stuff. So that we have an enormous influence
Here been the phoenix on syco de mayo the fifth of may. Oh my god
You know, this is to think that this doesn't already happen
It used to be a hell of a lot more when I was a kid
Of especially since I was redhead and kill patrick my, you know, grandmother was, you know
St patrick's day. I mean hell, I can't keep track how many times I went to some bar on st patrick's day to drink green beer
I mean, you know, so this is already happened
It's happening
So the threat is
These people are going to change or they already have
You know, there's always been an acceptance of whatever the hell
You know now I got you know big love
Who do you mean by they these people? Who do you mean by that anybody?
You know, I got you know, uh
Freakin polygamy on netflix. I mean, you know, it's like what if you know, that there's anything wrong with that
But you know, I'm just like this is already happened
What has been stripped
Of that blending that melting pot that culture is the one
aspect
That binds everyone
The culture of leave me alone ism the culture of your free to pursue your own
individual
Family yourself
You're not owned by anyone
Culture to express it and whatever worshiping the spaghetti monster, you know that worshiping the church of ai to do it
Don't give a shit
As long as you are not
Subsidizing it with my money
Putting it in the law regulation to give some advantage to one over another
Making sure this is why I'm sensitive to the argument of municipalities putting up
You know Christmas crucifixes crucifixes, you know, uh, whatever
Throwing their weight behind some culture tax money. You're paying for the city of phoenix, you know
Nativity scene major kind of man. I'm kind of hip to that. I'm like, yeah
That's kind of going overboard. You want to put up lights. You want to celebrate the freaking
You know solstice of the whatever the hell or kind of you know, or just put them up because they're pretty
You know winter of whatever. I'll give a shit, you know
But the and in fact that was part of the first amendment is what they argue for you can't have a state
Sponsored worship but so that argument gets in and they use it for their convenience to exclude
others
Damn jews or damn muslims or damn buddhist or damn into damn something, you know
No, we we vote this way and I'm going whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what if
the culture
of freedom
Which is you're at liberty to express yourself any old way you want
But you're not going to use my money to do it
Okay, let me ask you a question if if this is a great thought experiment if a muslim
Killed press for columbus on his way over and a muslim the so-called discovered america first
And the american colonies were all muslim
Do you think we would have the constitution and notice?
I said constitution over the bill of rights because you know, we wouldn't even get to the bill of rights yet
But would we have a bill of rights in constitution if you think if the muslims
Discovered quote-unquote america first. Yes or no
One I don't know
two
Kind of in there. I don't care and it doesn't matter. Oh god
Come on Ernie
cop out
Go intellectually honest because
Don't do a tulsi gabbro because
I believe
that humanity
Will always ratchet and trend
Towards freedom
It's the most productive
It's the most all-encompassing
It's the most wealth generating
It's the most
pliable
to humanity
To recognize self ownership and that you are in charge as a matriarchy
Whatever of your children in your family
There was a book I read one time it was called than beggars could ride and it was just if wishes were horses than beggars could ride
Whatever, but it was called than beggars could ride
It was in the future that you chose to live in whatever
Mem mimicry of a culture that you wanted people goes
We were so rich and so AI and so robotic that people go. You know what I want to live in ancient Rome
I want to be the Caesar nap nap nap. I want to be the um
The the bearer
Of the sovereign. I want to be the slave that carries the the thing
I want to be you know in the roaring twenties. I want to be the gangster. I want to be I want to be I want to be
Whatever and then whatever happens to you happens to you and it goes in it goes
Now why would somebody want to be the bearer of the feroe? You look at the feroe
You know, he's he's all fat or the Caesar or whatever. He's unhealthy
He's not you know and the slaves be bopping around. Of course, uh, they you know get time off
They only do it for four hours a day or whatever the hell
You know, they have high tech carbon fiber sailing ships, but they want to be pirates
They want to be you know, John Hancock delivering whatever the hell they want, you know, they want they want
In there there was some this guy was just abandoning this is like Harrison Bergeron kind of thing and what happened was
He eventually becomes one of the techs behind the scene because he just can't
live a lie
Well, one of the points in there is there was matriarchy societies
The Navajo or Hopi or some other culture amazon, you know women whatever
That it doesn't have to be a patriarchy
Generally, usually it is just because of you know
Men or men and women are more the nurturer or carer or mother bond through breastfeeding to tell you all kinds of reasons
But the point is is that will there be
This kind of choice that people make to have whatever the hell it is how they want to look fine
But sooner or later
Humanity will structure itself
Try to attain to want to be
Left alone
For them to have their family to have their tribe to have their clique to have their culture
To have their country to have their valley to do you look go to afghanistan
There's not a national soccer team. You know, there's not a national one. I mean, I'm sure they try to whatever
But afghanistan is just a bunch of tribes in whatever mountain valley of now if you're not allowed to rule
I'm sorry, sorry
You think this this
this
Freedom that all it's something like you said, I'm trying to put ordinary mouth, but you're saying
You know at the end of the day just let everything go
Freedom will figure itself out
And you know, there's something called commerce
You know, I mean I mean you could argue that silk road
I mean, I mean look you can make that argument. I know who else has made that argument
Some dude that you and I know I think I forget his name. Oh, it's bob anderson
That's right. And he talks about you know that we'll have freedom again, but we're talking what how many years
Thousand years of darkness or how many years has he said?
You know the thousand years of darkness if we let this
Not be a culture of there we go. So, you know, you got someone like him who I don't think bob is completely obtuse
So this conversation or this audience he's looking at a thousand years
Now ernie might say
Good
You know thousand years, that's fine
You know takes time to incubate real freedom and a few assholes have not figured it out yet
1,000 years, hopefully you'll figure it out.
Then 1,000 years later, my great, great,
great, great, great, great, great, great, great,
great, grand kids will then finally get freedom.
And from Ernie's point of view, I guess that makes sense.
That's his theory and how it works.
As opposed to, what?
I'm okay with it.
Trump coming around and saying
you got my kind of freedom?
That's Ernie's passive version of freedom.
And look, I'm okay with it.
I mean, from that perspective,
You know Liberty, you know wins and freedom always wins that just gets messy first and I'm not being I'm not trying to be you know
You know I kind of kind of thrown shade at it. I mean, he's right
I think ultimately history shows we go through this
Oscillation of freedom and fascism. I mean effective the old famous movie about no matter how
oppressive or dictatorial or authoritarian any regime is
They promise a
Chicken in every pot a
car in the driveway
Your freedom you're gonna be worth more make more money more opportunities for your kids
But you know why do they promise that because that is what people want
They want to be left alone. They want to be you know, they don't want to be herded
They don't want to serve the emperor. They don't want no matter how much they try and do that
What do the sovereigns always do they get some religious leader some pope some pastor some, you know
Faith-based initiative some something to lay hands on going to hurricane victims in Katrina in New Orleans
And say yeah, give up your guns to the man
The thing is I'm not doubting the Bob Anderson or any Hancock version of Liberty that you just let everything go
Don't care doesn't matter who cares not interested
We've heard all heard this on the show and if it takes a thousand years
Eventually are we don't know the far predecessors who won't even look human. They'll look like goddamn gray aliens with as I wish
To what from from like, you know from from from Elon Musk's
Cyberchips in our brain, you know, they at least will be free supposedly
But that's one way of going about it the Ernie Hancock way of doing it on the other hand
You know, you got another group of people they're like hey, you know
So they're seeing it like okay the guy who's like praying for Ramadan on the mountain the guy's a good guy
I'm sure he's a nice guy and I'm not putting anything down on him personally. I'm really not if anything
I've a lot of respect for the guy because I know how tough it is
Living in another country with another culture and a different religion because I live that I he was like 35 and
And and why was he scared?
Was he scared I didn't say scared
He was flustered because he thought he was all alone on this mountain when I showed up
He did look scared, but more just flustered
He just like whoa, whoa, whoa, you know because you know when you're praying and you think you're completely alone
And then someone's walking behind you. They you know, they get flustered not to mention
I'm sure he knew that he was a Muslim bowing down in a so-called
Christian maybe he didn't feel that we were in a culture of freedom
And I'm the Buddhist like I don't I don't have an issue with it from a religious point of view
But from a culture point of view it did throw me off not to mention
Literally in the silhouette of in the literally behind I just taken a picture. He had the damn Donald Trump
Search literally behind him. I mean it was right there. He was like I wish I took a picture of it
It was so of like unreal the the the the the just the I don't know
What am I saying this
Even talk here, but just just the contradiction of the two
It was fasting the seat and I just kept going in and another guy eventually showed up by the way a tall
Finn, you know English guy and he showed up and he was kind of taken back and he went a different way
And he were all trying to be respectful of the gentleman. It wasn't like we're trying to give him a hard time
So and I and again, I mean this I am
What did you acknowledge him? Did you smile at him? Did you throw a rock at him? I just walked past them
I didn't even want to get into his way. I just kept passing by and I just decided to find another way
Honestly, it did throw me off. I have I've been up that mountain
100 times at least thousand times
I've never seen that and this is going on at the same time of the wars going in the Middle East and you know
It could just be a complete coincidence
But it was at sunset and he had this book out
It was the book of ramen it was the whatever it was it was doing Ramadan
But it was the what do you call it the there was the Muslim book I
The the yeah, I the Quran it was the Christ. I read it. I saw it open. It was all in
Muslim's language or whatever that might be Farsi or whatever it is
I'm sorry for my ignorance, but it was definitely not the guy there with the Bible
All right, and so it's just it said a lot to me and I God knows the first person
I thought of was Ernest Hancock on
I just don't understand you're just so in the club and you don't get it and you want your shiny badge and
You know, I already was laughing it that when I saw that I was like here here here we go
This is what happens and it's like reminds me of when I was in the African-American the black alpha-fie alpha fraternity
Many of you know this story. I was the only white member of a black fraternity and the old lady
Martha who used to run the thing and she was like the grandma and she was awesome. She loved me
She taught me all that soul food God knows some Philly, but she used to tell me
She said her famous line and Ernie's heard this is it's great to have an open mind
But not so open that your brain falls out of it
And that is what I find liberals do definitely and sometimes my conservative and libertarian friends do they
Up in their principle, which I'm not saying not just because the minute you say it's about your principal
They go, so you told me Frank not to follow my principle. You're saying not the fuck
We're going at all and they try to because we start about cold
They try to box you in like like like you're selling out principles because at the end of the day
Following your principles is typically paramount and I agree with that, but this is where the quandary occurs
This is what happens. There's no one. This is when culture and freedom of those whole
Ernie and I go round and round for a decade keeps going around and round because because it's an easy
Pop-out to say if you're about principles that
It's like I'm holding the line for principles and I'm not I'm not gonna tell you not the whole of your principles
But at the same time when when if you keep allowing
Illegals to come here or even legals and you allow anyone to come and it doesn't matter about
Culture it doesn't matter about religion or or or or education background if none of this matters
And you're what I don't want to be accused of being a fascist because I'm all for freedom
Do you allow anyone to come and then you got people from other countries other cultures and different histories and different?
perspectives of the world to come here
Eventually you will be outvoted and you will have whatever it is
I'm just using an example of where of where Farsi becomes the official language and
About Sharia law becomes the official rule of the land and Ernie would say well, that's not gonna happen
That won't happen because I'm for freedom
Yeah, but when you just open your brain and your brain falls out and you allow all these other people come in who don't
See freedom the way that Ernie sees freedom then eventually you get outvoted Ernie can sit there all day and go
Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, but this is my version
Well, you know what thank you have a nice day
You're outvoted because the new version of freedom is a new voting culture
And when they turn around and then you got 50 people praying at Ramadan on the mountain that I literally just saw Ernie
Okay, eventually your daughters are told to wear a head scarf and you can sit back and say well
I'm not gonna do it fine. Don't do it
but now you've got a whole nother level of lack of freedom just like our friend who had the
Economic discussion group who spent his life trying to fight for freedom and the freedom increased or decreased in their lifetime
So I'm just saying what is the what is the direction that this is going and as I said like Einstein said
Doing the same thing over and over again and expect the same difference is a definition of insanity
And I'm not saying that I have the answer to everything and I'm certainly not trying to tell Ernie to do it
My way and do a shiny badge because that's Ernie's scapegoat
That's that's what Ernie does Ernie every time you try
He knows he's in a corner and he doesn't want to meet so what Ernie does is he tries to see you corner Ernie
Oh, there you are Kurt and then you try to spin it around and trying to say that
I just don't get it and you start throw it on me
But it's not about me
This is a deeper issue that you can't explain the Ramadan on my mountain and it's gonna keep
Continuing if we allowing anyone to come here with any culture any of you point and it's all about freedom of choice
But when that freedom gets overwhelmed overwhelmed by a culture
When that
codifies
their version in the code book of law
There that becomes their version of freedom and it doesn't matter what your version of freedom means at that point
That's my point. Go ahead. Tell me how wrong I am go ahead
This is a perfect example. I believe of Frank having been
Influenced and
indoctrinated mass formation psychosis inundated by from all vectors of whatever to share
Disappinion that is so prevalent in the country, which is why I wanted to do this show from the beginning
it is
From a basis that they eventually will make the argument that is totally hit on us that if you do this
You're a better person
If you do this this bad thing will happen if you don't do this
You know all these variables that are put out
without
the foundation of
freedom I
Am not free if they put a gun to my head and
Say I have to hire this person if I can't
hire this person I
Can't sponsor
this foreign person or whatever
That I have a standard set on to me by this person now when you say
Open borders or just an open border or letting buddy and their buddy in
That's not necessarily my position. I am I think anyone that wants to move
anywhere certainly to America
Should be allowed to do so as long as they recognize
Can articulate
pass the test
Agree, I totally agree you sign on the dotted line that
They recognize the culture need
benefits of freedom that
They as an individual
understand that the best
hope for
Freedom for humanity is that you do whatever you want
But you're not allowed to infringe on another person's pursuit of their freedom
You make that the criteria
Bring it. I'm good
Now the thing is is that?
They can't do that
With our school children coming out of junior high
They can't
Advocate that here in America much last for anybody else. They just want somebody to vote Democrat
It used to be in my lifetime
You know you got a gun rack in your pickup with a rifle in your high school parking lot
in my lifetime
That you have the DCM. I think they called it
you have
Firearm training classes that at the end of it you got a m1 grand
30-odd six
World War two surplus rifle
Given to you by the government to defend against all enemies foreign domestic. These are programs
I think some of those are still available
That culture that of freedom is something I wholeheartedly
Through the promise that was made us and the promotion of that freedom culture
should be done with our
People here in America and to have at least an understanding
Agreement
Advocacy would be nice of
Anybody that wants to live here and claim
American citizenship
This is why I always ask make America great again. What the shit do you mean?
What is America is it a corporation is it a philosophy is a geography is it a culture is it a people?
What does it mean?
if you are advocating for what I
believe makes
America
Exceptional this exceptional well what exceptionalism
Bill brights
Declaration a
Functioning democracy without computers
What is it?
Nobody ever asked why anymore
So when Frank says well, what are you gonna do when you got?
20 million
Muslims
Living here. I don't know. Are they American Muslims?
for American values the American promise
the American Bill of Rights
Bring it
What do you do when you got all these American loving we want to not take over
Not being funded not getting welfare not fraud and the taxpayers not doing
Somali people coming fine
But that's not what Frank saying
He's saying when you got these millions upon millions of Biden invasion of whatever just to be voters that get
I've seen it happen. You have here in Arizona. You'd have people in support of these different food programs. They called them
wick and and
There's a bunch of different programs yet social services will go to all these people know by the way vote Democrat
And here's all this food
Here's all these different programs for education here. You get to have your childcare paid for here
You get subsidies for getting a job. Here's your phone. Here's your here's your here's you. I don't get that
So these people under what condition are these people coming?
Who who's doing it who's saying this who's being part of that who are the ones that are
Advocating for this onslaught of immigrants that are coming are
They in agreement of what the promise was for America
the cause
Common sense the answer is no Ronnie. They're not
Most of them are not right. I think reason right. I agree good who who's the blame for that?
What culture is being promoted?
Who's in charge of that? Well, you were supposed to be our bill of rights our
Constitution our decoration our court system or what it's gone
That is my very point and it doesn't matter if they're
Muslim or from another country or Chinese or you know Somalian or whatever
We have an internal
rot of
America that it doesn't matter if it was from them if they came here or not they are
infecting and taking away the meaning of freedom in
America for Americans and it's been going on for
Generations and the abandonment of that concept
that advocacy that
culture of
America was about is
the
problem and
To blame it on some other foreign country other language speaking of different beer or food is to miss
the real point
We have lost the heritage
The function the reason for the light on the hill here in America
We have been taken over there's been a coup it started
from the signing of the Constitution and we used to have a t-shirt that said
Government doesn't work. I want my money back and it had a graph and there is a revolution gap
This concept was from a speech long story the revolution gap when you finally have a revolution a
Civil war an abandonment of the regime here is when the promise from government and
The reality start to separate to the point it gets overwhelming and the people rebel
When they start of the country then they do the whiskey rebellion it starts to separate a little bit then they do the first
National bank separates a little bit, you know, they get to the Civil War separates quite a bit
Then they get to the Federal Reserve
An income tax World War one World War two
Korean War Vietnam War
Watergate on and on and on and on and on and it gets to the point to where the government
Promise that Trump's up there promising and the reality which is going to get a lot more economic problem
that revolution gap between the promise of government and
What is in reality is when the regime is challenged and what do they do?
You're not allowed to dissent
You're not allowed to advocate for this freedom Ernie was talking about we need to have a
monolithic
Cultural enforced by you're not allowed to
Enforce you keep thinking you can't get your head around that to you everything is enforced
I I just saw I wasn't gonna bring this up. I don't bring this up
I just saw a patient on Tuesday. It's so I meant in my internet for those
You don't know I pretend to be a doctor, you know during the week. I do prostate cancer. It's my focus anyway
My international office. I see patients on Tuesday and I had a gentleman who was a war veteran
And he was in the Middle East for 15 years a long-term guy
I didn't realize that at first he came to see me and you know, I'm dealing with this prostate stuff
I won't go into it right now
But you know, he was talking about the Middle East because I was asked for their background
You know, just to get a sense of what kind of jobs they have, you know
Because it could affect the prostate and their PSA and anyway, I'm very detailed
So it turns out, you know, we start chatting with him. He's in the Middle East for 15 years. I'm like, whoa
So, you know, we're shooting that, you know what and
Anyway, he's telling me the job and how much he loved the Middle East and he was in a few different Middle East countries
Qatar and he was in Saudi Arabia quite a bit and he was in Iraq for a little bit
He I mean he was there for a long time since since the early wars. Anyway, you get it
but the thing is is I
He was telling me that when he speak when he was talking to the locals
The number one thing he heard for many of the locals and I know when I was in Japan
There were certain things that everyone kind of brought up. I won't go into that one, but he said
Someday you'll be outside of the American borders early and you'll start to appreciate these conversations
But anyway, this gentleman he said
Most of the people talking to him when when you know when they felt at ease
They knew they wasn't reporting them. They weren't being listened to the phones are off blah blah blah. They would say
Why do you keep allowing fellow Arabs our people into your country?
They kept saying what is it with your nation? Why are you allowing people from other and this is his words
other cultures our culture into your nation
Like these are people from Arabian nations who love their own culture
Who understood that oil and vinegar don't mix and they're like we would never allow your people
Your culture into ours because they would ask everything up and yet
They were asking him all the time like why are you guys wasting all your bombs and resources and blood and everything?
To do all of this and then you're taking a lot all of our people and
Bringing them to your not to mention a lot of them are criminals anyway not to get into that whole conversation
I'm not saying everyone
I'm not saying everyone who comes here is a criminal or a terrorist
Let me just be clear for any of you lefties or three letter agency people listening
I'm not saying that but this is his words. He was just saying this is what he got all
Yeah, look at Europe. Why are you why are you there just like when I was in Japan?
I was always asked how many guns though. I own because when I was there in the 90s
They assumed every American had 10,000 guns because of that young man
Shuji who got shot at a Halloween party in America and I've talked about that in the past
But but reason more in the last 15 20 years. That's how the Arabs who were looking at this from Middle Eastern countries
They're like what is wrong with you Americans?
I mean we have not saying you guys are bad people
But do you understand just how different we are and you're allowing all these people like like they couldn't wrap their own head around
What and it's they're going to say it's their people
So I'm just am I going to say go ahead. Tell me. What is that missing again? I mean again?
This is what I just said well go ahead
Give us your tired your hungry huddled masses yearning to what?
The one one
To be free bring it
Free but the point you and I keep going around around is the word free is
Relative Ernie you think the word free is absolute you see it as diehard
Do
It is no
That's your interpretation
That's your interpretation my interpretation. We'll be very clear my interpretation is very simple
You are allowed to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't impede someone else
Anyone wants to come here and advocate for that?
I don't give a shit where you're from or who you are peace out bring it
That is why when we have people from all over the world refugee status today, but then what happens Cuba empties up their empties out there
During scarface years back in the day. What do they do? You want the Cubans fine?
You can have all our drug dealing criminal scumbag
Crazy people same thing comes from Venezuela same thing comes from all our Central America
We get invaded by what the best people the people that are not in prison the people that want to be free
The people that demonstrated you know they're they only got an education they can read they can do are willing to or whatever
We just bring them all in for what reason because it serves some
Republican some Democrat some water they them though it did not serve us
That was not the point and then they get the social welfare programs or whatever
So didn't you go to a libertarian and you say well you're for open borders. I can't believe you want open borders
Yeah, eliminate all the entitlement
Welfare I'll let me know. Well, we can't let people in until we do that. All right fine. Then do that
They all get no my turn they don't get all of these benefits then they come in you go
No, no, no, then they're gonna be on top of the mountain doing Ramadan
So freaking what you keep conflating all these points
One single point
The whole purpose of this country and this government and the promise that they made was that any and everybody
Can come here be free be productive as long as they understand the culture that we created
From the beginning where they promise with our documents and to the degree that we are in debt
That we are an empire that we've gone all over the world doing all kinds of stupid shit
And we have debt that will never be paid off
That's going to be passed on the great great to hell for in perpetuity
until the collapse is because of how far we have
deviated and left that
promise that
Enforcement that use of the three branches of government to defend individual rights and it started from the beginning
of
They then those that are willing to do any and everything to benefit them at the expense of
people of the Americans of our
Culture and that culture you every time you say the word culture
I will always defend the idea that America's culture was based on
freedom that you are
able to expect the government to protect your
Individual life to protect your property and to protect your
Individual pursuit of happiness and if it doesn't do that why the fuck is it there?
That's it. Okay story. No, I get it
So Ernie's view of freedom is Ernie's version of freedom and you know and again
It's unconditional and it's his interpretation
Absolutely
What do you say you do here? Why are you there? Why are you taking my money? Why are you drafting my kids?
Why are you fighting these wars and killing people in my name?
Rationalized that freedom is this is where it all comes down to and and this is the hard part because you keep thinking
I'm arguing with you remember
Well, I am just for ratings, but I mean
Personally
Personally I agree with you personally, but don't tell anybody because it'll be bad for our show
But I'm just saying that that
Objectively and what I'm trying to get the larger point that you keep arguing with me about is that you think the word freedom is
Not relative you think it's absolute and you are effing wrong
I mean, I mean, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe after what's wrong, but according to Ernie we go to Ernie
All right Ernie's right. I'm wrong
So what it means to Ernie because Ernie's absolute freedom
So I want I want Ernie to say it you effing say it right now
Because according to Ernie as far as absolute freedom
So some guy that puts lipstick on his little on his lip and says they identify as a female pig
But since it happens to be female rather than the male pig
He gets to go to a female bathroom with my eight-year-old daughter trying to go in there by herself
So at the end of the day so some some some guy who's who maybe has a mental issue and identifies as a woman
He has the freedom therefore to go into a male
I'm sorry a male gets to go into a female bathroom. That's his version of freedom. It's absolute freedom
So I want you to say it and say that a mentally disturbed person male with lipsticks could go in a female bathroom
Because that's absolute freedom say it Ernie right now in the show go say it
Say it he has the freedom to do that. All right. I have the but I have the freedom to
You know my daughter
What
Well, that's the point. This is where you start having the conflict isn't it so all of a sudden you start having this breakdown
About what a man is what a female is all of this stuff and this is the problem
So already Ernie has to put it nobody makes responsibility
Ernie has everybody wants somebody to pass a law
Everybody wants somebody else to do it. Everybody wants to delegate this authority for someone else that will violate the laws
Ernie the reason for the laws and and I'm not for laziness
But don't you understand that the laws are ramification or are they there there are there are a
Some of how much conflict a society has the more conflict people have the more we got so many laws
We don't have any conflict now
No, I mean, I know you don't see that. This is why you go to Japan. No, I don't any laws
No, I don't want because I don't see laws. You're current you're reducing conflict James
I said seriously if you ever had to I would love to have this conversation with James
Have you and do you guys ever talk about the cultural issue in Japan or do you just talk about other concepts?
I'm just curious. I would love to talk to James about this. I
Would love for you to talk to James
I know that'd be great. We should have a puzzle set. I
will bring it up our next conversation because
It goes with our launch of Libertas daughter
See, I don't get in to all of this nuanced stuff because I don't need to God for me with you
Because you freaking pissing me off
This because when we do the philosophy of liberty, right?
The only concept that we're worried about that you own yourself
That anybody that says they have some
Say over your life
Are not your betters. They're not your friends, you know, they're not advocating for freedom
You know that you have a right to your life and keep breathing in and out
That you have the freedom of your hands your liberty to you know
Fashioned, you know freaking raw material into your property. I mean life liberty property. It's just past present future
It's just three ways to say the same thing. That's the point and that you own yourself once you get that basic
fundamental concept
Then all of this social engineering all the coercion and force all the taxation
All of this we speak for you and go wage war and your your name and oh by the way
Where's your sons and daughters go do it all that?
goes away
So if you understand that you own yourself that is the splinter in the mind of the planet that I wish to inject
That is what we're doing. Well, all of this other shit
Derived from that realization
Once people get that then they're a lot easier for understanding and
Advocating for Ernie's version of freedom
Exactly why I'm doing Ernie's version of freedom first of splinter in the mind
The version that Ernie is advocating. Yeah, no, no, I get that one. By the way splinter in the mind is a great a
Great analogy and a great reference. That was it. It was a famous Star Wars book by the way
So there was a great reference, but yeah, that was matrix. Yeah. Oh, that was really I didn't realize that
Yeah, it was from really stars book too, but anyway, I know I we can finish up
I mean, there's other things I wanted to mention just you and I both knew but you're right
We went long on this way look to look without getting frustrated about it to be to our credit
We've not debated culture in about two months
Because you and I've done pretty good I think but you know
It just came up with this thing with Iran and and we're not allowed for a long time now either
But I mean, I think it's worth bringing up because I mean they literally called the culture war
I mean, it's not it's it's I think it's good
I mean, I don't want both of us getting too frustrated about it
But the fact that we're so similar and yet it comes up and yet it's in our culture as
No pun intended and our audience and I know our audience is going through this as well
Do it's not you know, it's not just you and I I mean
I know we're all trying to wrestle this in different ways and some of us think we have the absolute like Ernie does
This is real simple to stop them to talk about what was nothing to talk about it
Why the hell do we have the culture war? How come we're we're having the issues that we're having
You know, so clearly even if Ernie thinks there's nothing to talk about and and I say this respectfully
There's others who think this is worth talking about including me
And it's not just me if it was just me Ernie wouldn't have me on the show
I'd be a nothing burger in ratings and no one would care
I'd just be this strange opinion, but it's not just me. It's just like the whole Israel thing
You know, there's how many which is why I suffer through these
Everybody's got a solution, but they're not fixing the core problem
But the core problem is they're not doing what they promised what the agreement was well
If you don't like it leave and I'm going like what you've taken over the entire concept of what America was promised
You've taken over everything. Who do you mean by taking over education?
You've taken over utilities you've taken over banking and commerce and you know the right to spy and sell and you
Balance you they them those whoever won't leave me alone
This is they've taken over this country's whole entire mission
I'm still try and say that we're free and we're Americans and then they say make America great again
What the fuck are you talking about?
They won't define it and they won't fix it
Which is the whole point in a long very four-hour out-of-the-way way of
Explaining it of what has happened the Maga we never even got to today, which is fine, but everyone is watch
Wait, wait, wait, everyone's watching the news and they see it Maga and Ernie was correct to find Maga
What does that mean? There is Maga which Trump is defined as whatever I say
And then there's really the other Maga, which is America first, which is what they interpreted America first and you're seeing
Completely the split over that and it's
You know Tucker and you know whoever else they'll
You're kicked out of Maga and I'm going well if that's the definition and you're as you're fucking
I'm leaving Maga. You know right kiss my ass. So this is just he's so stupid on this
Yeah, and I'm like this. I did not one thing. I did not think I did not think Trump was stupid
You know, I thought he was telling he's doing whatever. He's got his you know 5d chipped something
You know, but no, this is stupid. This is this is he have shown his his
his his ego is it his his
Small penis is something. I don't know what the hell is going on
We got you know Michael event is just hammering a crap out of
Megan Kelly and she just keeps calling him small penis man. Well small penis
Micro penis whatever, you know, so I'm just going
This is where the discourses come down to is this it
We there is much pretty
No, so I just and nobody wants to fix the real problem. So America first was a great slogan. Okay, do it
I'm gonna be prudent at this juncture
I've been through this so many times that I am and even more so now than ever before
You're still voting so hit to have you know, what else is going to come up JD Vance and Tulsi
You're still voting. I mean they can't come up with it. It's gonna have to be a
Slate what it's gonna have to be, you know, a
Succesion succession movement, it's gonna have to be a Western libertarian alliance with Alberta
Eastern Rocky states and Sonora or something which is what Elio Smith was going on about the reason was because that's where all the
Resources were save oil, you know in Texas or whatever, but you have Alberta
You know got a bunch of oil you got minerals throughout the eastern part of the Rockies
You got, you know gun ownership community freedom oriented, you know what North Mexico kind of give the ask screw everybody
We'll just do our own thing. Well
Do I need a vote? You know Alberta? Yeah, we're gonna vote on it. We're we're outside. We're not Canadians anymore
Okay, well probably not gonna allow that to happen and if they do so what it's still another freaking government
There's gonna be 51st state who the hell wants to join America now?
So I'm just like this is the promise of what America was the promise the promise the promise and
The only reason that it lasted as long as it did
Was because people believed in the promise while at the same time. They were
in debting us
Eating out our substance and taking over through the banks through the secret handshake club of filling the blank
You know through the you know the Zionist movement the banking thing that you know
Build the Berg Weft or do whatever. No, it doesn't matter who it was
It's going to be another one behind them waiting to do it
Why because the middle class in America that's where all the money was the wealth of
Americans and if they can get you sick and if they get you on your death bed
Well, they own all the hospitals and big pharma and we're gonna take all your money there
You won't have any at the end and if you got any left. Well, then there's the death tax
You know, there's a you move tax. There's you a deliberately ducked tax
You know, this is what we're dealing with now and nobody recognizes it
They keep blaming somebody else. It's those damn Muslims. It's a the Somali's coming here and ripping us off
What do you mean Somali's ripping us off? You're the ones that created the program
You're the ones that have a bunch what all of a sudden you just find out in California. They're ripping you off, too
You know the BLM ripped you out of me ripping you off and you're still
Creating it you think they don't know you think Congress doesn't know you think Democratic Party doesn't know you think all these people don't know, of course
They know
They're the ones that created it
So we keep blaming everybody else while we keep delegating authority to someone else to create another program
And then we get attacked 9-11. What do they do? Well, we need another department of the DNI
To to fix all our departments. Yeah, that's a ticket. No, this is it's going to implode
It is the economy stupid. It is going to happen and I can't get far enough away
You need mesh networks. You need communication need satellite base
You need a crypto that can bypass the entire system and be private
You need private stable coins stable to silver. Hopefully you need to have the ability to grow and
Source your own water and food you raise your own children. You need a you need a you need to occupy the land dot org
That is why I did that. That's why we're doing libertas. Earth
So you understand the basic fundamental you own yourself or you're gonna be on the land some clipboard's gonna say
Oh, I'm sorry. You don't own yourself. Didn't you get the memo? This is all of what I've done my and almost entire
adult life and it has been because the title of my
presentation in an archipelago just a couple weeks ago was
What if you knew what if you knew this is gonna happen?
What if you knew we're on this trend? So when you ask, you know, what what's the direction?
You think this is going Ernie? I already know where it's going. It's going to hell in a hand basket. I already know
I mean, you know, this is that this is funny. It's like they're not tweaking it. They're no fixing it. You can't fix it
It's already fixed
You know, well, I mean it. It's what's next and what is next the principle the promise
the freedom if you don't have that
We're doomed thousand year dark darkness, but where does it go?
What always does you know the pilgrims the Mayflower the whatever going to
You know the ocean, you know the sea the space to Mars to whatever
humanity marches on but I prefer
Earth
Because I don't think there's anywhere else to go that we're going to be able to thrive the resources are here
The electromagnetic protection the magnetic field for our health that whatever. I don't think you know, you know
You want to go to Mars peace out, but you know, I think we're evolved on earth and this is where we're going to be so
Why am I excited about?
Firefly
Firefly was an awesome. They kind of referenced the alliance the bad guys
We had to leave earth because of all this
Well, who was the alliance who who who was you know, the government that came after that it was alliance between the West and East
That's why everybody custom Chinese, you know, and they're kind of almost kind of merkin
It's the alliance the alliance of what of government of central plan
They went out. Yeah, they had all the independent planets wanted to not be controlled by the central and then you know
The civil war happened firefly. That's what that was all about
And the great lines that came out of the captain's like that's government editor is there to meddle in a man's business
There's a whole bunch of one liners in there and then they wonder why it was so popular
We did a show back in 2004 where we had all this has been a long time in the making is so popular with the fans
but Fox had to kill it why
Because
Libertas dot earth it was the whole concept that government was the problem
That was what the theme was with Joss Whedon this whole thing. Therefore it must fucking die
That's why and the people brought it back
So when they do the animation when they do the new story lines, what's gonna happen?
I guarantee it's gonna have a whole bunch of this
Rhetoric again and we'll come under attack then the people gonna want to do it when we did a big show on this
We put it out in all the forums all manages blew up the servers at the radio station me and two other guy pal
Gamble and Kevin was named a guy that was University of Arizona astrophysic
He was a big firefly plant fan and libertarian
He comes on and the point that we were making is that this is such a popular series
Because it espouses libertarian philosophy and the people that are big fans
Don't know it. They don't understand it what they're in support of is the idea that is in
Philosophy of Liberty Libertas dot earth that I got a bunch of guys that fake
There is a definition of freedom like Ernie. That's doing this
So that's what we're doing
Why because it's not represented anywhere else sure as shit not by the United States freaking governments
Any of them local state federal we have totally been taken over with our money and they indebted us
And it's not going to get better and we're not gonna be able to blame the Somalis the Arabs the Muslims the
Mexicans the Venezuelans
We are the blame we allowed it. Why because we were sigh opt
We were just inundated with all of these vectors of information to allow for it
It's normal to let it happen, and I don't see some
32-year-old couple from Bangladesh as an enemy when they want to come to America
To be free to pursue their happiness
I can't see a single Iranian or Pakistani or whatever that is not busting their ass
Open a store next to our pizza restaurant were three
Afghanistan brothers, and I think they had a fourth to they came here
And they ran like a little dollar store kind of thing
But I tell you some black guys came in one of the shop lifts of sneakers from and everything
They barred the door a gunfight came out, and I'm like holy shit, man
Don't be trying to rob the afghanis man, so they worked hard. They did so do I
Afghanistan appeal I'm not with no I got a whole bunch of slew of people that want to be
American they want to work hard they want to support the promise they want to benefit from it
No, that's not their version of freedom Ernie
That's not what most people think when they think of freedom and coming to America. That's your version
You keep thinking that's what do you know this idiot I was five years their next-door neighbor
You met one guy for a few hours doing whatever and you're going his view of what happens in Iraq
Military guy, and I spent five years with him
Them and my family by his stuff talking with them doing the yyy from me, and I don't know them better
When the majority of people who are speaking in this country come they don't speak English
If you don't speak English, how many of them you think are reading the Constitution in Spanish?
Yeah, how many of these people do you think are now we're done that are the scholars of the Constitution?
I mean you for a minute this audience knows they've done polls
Well, they've interviewed people they come here that play station. They want to get like, you know
They want to get kickbacks. They want to get money. They wouldn't have their kids and have the kids here
I mean, I mean, it's not about their sitting or going about Thomas
They're not reading
I don't want them before they come here. I don't want them like you have this
Now what I don't want them. No, I'm just serious like that you have I don't want them have this
Don't want them and I want the ones that agree that they come here here. So I'm not they're not allowed because
View of who's coming here and that's what's happening. Well, I want to give you like I look like you talk
I we have to finish up both of us have to go and I won't make this long
But when I finish and we're done go. Thank you. Thank you when I lived in Japan
It was like, you know, it was a great it was like 25 years ago
But there was like I used to get the newspaper when that newspapers
It was the only English newspaper and it was it was sanctioned
It was basically an English version of the Japanese newspaper
It was called the Japan Times and I got it every day my home states or their credit because I knew I was a news junkie
They said I was the only student who lived study abroad who paired about international news and there were there were
Thanks for actually they were appreciative and they paid for it and they were a poor family
I just want to give them credit because they paid for it. They didn't have to and I got it
So I read it every day. So anyway, but like some of the main news stories of the day
Let me tell you what the news stories of the day work. Okay, they had a tax problem
This is one of the Japanese economy was falling apart is whether they should have the tax rate to 5% or
6% that was a huge news story. Let me tell you another one. There was a huge issue
culturally about the Chinese and
Japanese sex sex workers because during World War two a lot of the Japanese women were used to sex slaves
To the Chinese during World War two
This was a massive scandal in Japan versus China and they had all kinds of like, you know
negotiations over it and
Saving face and what happens to the 80 year old women who are sex slaves in World War two and like this like the whole
Time I was there
It was all about, you know, how much to have China pay for that or, you know, what what saving face all of that
I'll tell you another big huge huge
He went the biggest scandal biggest issue in Japan when I was there. Hope you're sitting down for this Ernie
Sumo wrestling now sumo wrestling is their version of
Relates why I'm
Because I'm trying to explain to you the context the contrast of what America is dealing with what we what our version of problems are
When you don't have an imaginary society and I know you're like where you going Frank?
So I'm making a point. I was there for a year and this is like one of the major stories aside from I can tell you some others and
Ernie's gonna go. Well, this is this is this is this is pablum. I don't understand where Frank's going
This is ridiculous. I don't get it. That's the point Ernie
So the other bit the huge issue one of the biggest issues was sumo wrestling now. I love sumo
It's like their version of American football and they had a huge scandal
Hope you're sitting down Ernie and this was that sumo wrestlers
Which is like, you know, again like the Super Bowl. You gotta be American to play American football
You remember the scandal we had recently where we had white
What is the name bad bunny or something that when I'm doing the Super Bowl party and the half-time people flipped out over that
Well, imagine this 30 years ago when for the first time
Hawaiians because there's a lot of Japanese who live in Hawaii. So there's a lot of Hawaiians that are half
Japanese and half American or half Hawaiian and many
Many sumo people come from Hawaii and they tend to be a little bit bigger than Japanese because they have some Hawaiian blood in them
And so there's a huge debate
Can a Hawaiian Japanese be allowed to be in the Japanese sumo championships?
Because there's nothing more Japanese than sumo and the minute you have a Hawaiian or someone who's not a hundred percent
Japanese blood. Well that kind of discredits or contaminates the whole sumo wrestling, you know lineage
I mean it goes back like 2,000 years, which Ernie's like 2,000. I don't give a crap, you know, whatever
America's 200 years. They were talking 2,000 years for Japan
And so it was this was like the biggest story of all time about whether or whether a non-Japanese can be in sumo
I mean that this this was like what I lived through and it was like, oh my god, you know
I mean, of course
I wound up hearing about the David Koresh getting burned down in the branch Davidians that happened when I was in Japan and
The Japanese dinner, you know, they couldn't even conceive of that one
But anyway, I'm just trying to give you a sense of how a homogenized society these are problems
You know, that's their problem. Now I come to let's look at a modern America
We're sitting there about men being in female bathrooms about men being in female swim teams
We're dealing with like, you know, the Jewish Americans who want us to bomb this other country because they're Jewish
And they feel that there's a religious war going on
Then you have another group of Christians or different than other Christians who think that is the third temple needs to be rebuilt
And we have to all bow down to Jews because I guess they're more important or something
I mean, that's the Scofield Bible people at least from what I'm hearing
And then you've got Buddhists that live here and seek to have their own agenda
But God knows I know because my wife is a Sikh and I hear it from her family
And we can go I can go on and on about how many problems you do about this and that and that and that about about
This problem about about race issues and
Then you've got a communist in New York, we got communism and socialism versus that
I mean, these are massive
fundamental like
Existential issues that our country is dealing with we yet when I was in Japan
It was whether a five or six percent tax rate and whether you know who can be a sumo wrestler
Now I know you don't quite grasp what I'm saying. I'm not trying to be an ass. I'm just saying you're probably still confused
What am I getting to I'm trying to give you an example of an homogenized society versus one
That's not now you might say I don't care about homogenization. I don't want that
I want freedom to do whatever I want. And yes, I'm not again
I I know you have a hard time trying to sincerely trying to understand my perspective perspective on this
I think I honestly think I confuse you to be honest, but it's it's like this
This is how I see it from someone who's both an American who understands and loves Thomas Tain and Thomas Jefferson
And gets the concept of what Ernie and our audience is
Understands from but when you unfortunately and I say this almost tongue-in-cheek. I've been contaminated
I've been
Spruely poisoned by the concept of living overseas because once you do you start to see just how
Just other ways of the world and you come back and you start to see sometimes our own issues either
Either that they seem less than they really are or sometimes you see how much worse that they really are by
Comparison and we see how other people live and then with that not to mention the propaganda
Saying that people who don't live the way we do are not living in freedom like we are the ones who are free as
You know, I don't feel very very free anymore compared to other countries and I can keep going and that's what that's what Tucker Carlson
Is often bringing up as well. So, you know this whole concept of of like an existential
Freedom that Ernie brings up like I don't know what there's to talk about there's freedom
Well, freedom is I have to say
God, no, he's gonna kill me on it. We got to get going
But I think it's more relative than you think I used to think freedom was not relative
It was absolute either it is or it isn't but
And I called something else I used to say that as well and and I'm sure I
Won't change your mind. I'm just saying
All I can tell the audience though is someone who felt exactly like you you will never change my mind on it as
I began to travel and see things different ways
I began to see what I thought with was freedom is
Relative, I mean, I don't want to be told what to do let alone from the goddamn government that that to me
I guess at the end of the day you call that freedom, but I started to see how freedom is not only relative
But it's it's it's proportional to how much quote-unquote
diversity and ironically how much brain falling out of your head
Freedom that you have that when you have too much quote-unquote freedom
It circles back and kicks you in the ass in a way that you don't you know
I've been hearing this lately, but all you have to do is add one word to it
Okay, and you're just saying the same thing that they are
I've been listening to for the past weeks. Go ahead
Free speech
Relative
It's kind of not what you think it is, you know
I've been here in this same thing for the past few weeks. All you had to do is add speech to it
No, well, I would never say that
Yeah
Speeching say whatever you want to say. I hear your point. No, I know you're right
I will never go that direction, but it is it's a slippery slope, isn't it?
It's a slippery slope and what all I know is what a thousand people are praying with their for Ramadan on my mountain
Pretty soon at some point I we that we them that made by the outnumbered and you might think it doesn't matter
But to them it might and they have a different viewpoint of culture that you don't see yet until it kicks you in the butt
And when it dies, it'll be too late burning care. I know you don't care as you do, you know
It's very simple you do you are free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't violate
The individual rights of another person or their pursuit of happiness. How hard is that? That's my definition
That's it, you know, no, it's relative. Well, it might be the relative to you
But it's not to me. We got to go because I had to get the yeah
Pick up some stuff. Well, I'm fifty-one percent of
Arizonans all say that that you're not allowed to be a libertarian or you have to wear a head scarf
Then we'll hear what Ernie's version of freedom is but you know because they'll vote
They'll vote their version of freedom and it's a little different Ernie's freedom. All right guys
I really enjoyed the show I really did and I know it's been a while since we had a debate about culture
Next time I'm sure we'll get more if there's even ever ever ever ever ever ever a next time
Because you know it's going to be you know freedom of speech is relative is all I'm going to keep bringing up
So I'm just like you know and the idea that there's you know
We got to have a homogenized like Japan culture thing fine
I'm not a problem of that as long as it's in support of freedom and I get to do what I want
And you get do what you want and we don't bother each other. Boom. I'm all about that culture
I felt the most free
The most Muslims out there praying all I can say is I felt the most relaxed and free in Japan
I wasn't even Japanese. It was a good time. All right, man. I'll catch us. Hey, hi to Donna for me
Guys all right. Bye. Bye