I don't like to bend over backwards at this point to give Trump the benefit of the doubt
and say, well, he was dragged against his will into this. At some point, you have to say,
he must have wanted this on some level, or at the very least, given the choices that
he thought he realistically had, he went for this. I think the analogy with COVID is apt
in that Fauci was obviously anticipating a long campaign. Trump wasn't. Trump said,
well, I hope this will all be over by Easter. It started in March. Easter was in April,
and Fauci was saying to now hold on a minute, this is going to go a long time. Trump had
encountered on that. So likewise, even though I don't say, oh, this was against Trump's will
or he had to really be dragged into it, I do think there are indications that
he thought it would be a lot faster than it's turned out to be.