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starting jobs in many professions like lawyers

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being taken over by AI.

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Most experts believe that sometime within the next 20 years,

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quite possibly within 10 years,

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we'll have super intelligence, something better than us,

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and that we'll be able to do any new job that's created.

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It'll be all of them.

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The big tech companies are thinking,

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if we can be the first to get really good AI,

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human level AI,

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we can make a lot of money selling AI to companies

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so that they can replace workers.

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As far as I can see,

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that's the only place they can get their huge investments back.

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They're not thinking about the social consequences of that.

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They're assuming somehow the state will take care of it,

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but I don't see how it can.

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What does all that mean for youngsters

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trying to position themselves for the future?

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Jeffrey Hinton's got ideas for them,

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and you'll hear those on Monday.

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And a recap of today's headlines.

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The New York Times is reporting that President Trump

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is reviewing an option to send U.S. troops into Iran

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for targeted raids.

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President Trump has nominated banking exec Kevin Warsh

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to head the U.S. Central Bank.

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Like Trump, Warsh says interest rates should be lower.

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Former CNN anchor Don Lemon has been arrested

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in connection with his reporting

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during Minneapolis ICE protests.

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That's feature story news Tony Waterman reporting.

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Everyone in a bustling Chinese parade

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is attempting to elude pursuers.

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Newly discovered cave paintings suggest

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early man was battling a lot of inner demons

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and a xylophoneist is shredding it.

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This Tuesday FBI officials disclosed details

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of a disturbing al-Qaeda plot to just kick back,

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relax and savor the inevitable collapse

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of the United States.

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Intelligence agencies confirmed the massive

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coordinated plan involves terrorist cells

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across the globe training specifically

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to take a load off and unwind

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as America's political infighting,

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class divides, moral indolence,

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and environmental self-destruction

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gradually tear the nation apart.

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Our righteous warriors will devote our time

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to relaxing and really soaking

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in the infidel self-destruction.

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America's cities will be reduced to ruins.

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The economy will come to a standstill

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and we, the blessed of Islam,

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will kick back, put our feet up

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and enjoy the show.

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It's going to be great.

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And we have lots of different things to talk about.

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We do already have a caller on the line.

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I know that a lot of people,

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I think, are going to want to talk about

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this Epstein stuff.

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Let's see what Aulia from Virginia

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wants to talk about.

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Hi guys, thanks for taking the call.

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I want to talk about gun control,

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one of my favorite topics.

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Okay, in America or somewhere else?

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Yep, in the United States.

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I heard a few episodes ago,

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maybe last episode.

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Somebody was talking about the case in Hawaii

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that was going to, I guess,

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the Ninth Circuit, the Federal Court of Appeals.

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And I think they affirmed that ruling.

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And it was Hawaii's interesting new gun control laws.

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I think they have two.

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I believe one, I heard about it two months ago,

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is a state law that says

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you need affirmative permission,

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like in writing or something,

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like explicit permission from any property owner

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before you can carry a firearm on their property.

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And that's just another creative,

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unique way to get backdoor gun control in

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because it's not feasible to ask every property owner

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before you enter them for explicit permission

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to carry a firearm.

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So it would make it essentially impossible

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to carry a firearm outside your house

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or to any property besides the street.

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And I think the main reason

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or one of the reasons why

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this backdoor method for gun control happened,

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and New York's been doing similar backdoor methods for years

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with sensitive places and stuff like that,

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is because the Supreme Court ruled

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like two, three years ago now

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in New York state, RPA versus Bruin,

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that I believe states and localities,

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local governments cannot have an outright ban

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on firearm carrying.

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And they have to provide permits to people

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unless they can prove a historical analog,

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like a historical tradition

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back in the ratification of the Second Amendment

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or 14th Amendment of a similar kind of restriction,

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such as you can't take firearms

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and shoot people or give them to babies

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because historically in the 1790s,

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people were not allowed to shoot people

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or give guns to babies to carry.

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So those things were probably around in the 1790s.

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Therefore they can have restrictions,

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but there were no magazine limits in the 1790s.

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And therefore there could not be magazine limits now.

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Without that theory.

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I suspect you're overstating it

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that there was a law restricting babies from having guns

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in that era.

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Yeah, part of the law to give a tradition,

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I don't know if that's a good example,

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but that's the theory.

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Yeah, I mean, just because people didn't give babies guns

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doesn't mean it was some sort of tradition either, right?

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It's just like, yeah.

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Guns were not cheap.

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Like you wouldn't be just giving away like a gun

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to a young person.

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Maybe you'd train them or something like that

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for educational purposes.

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And I don't think there were no gun control laws

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that I know of actually in 1790.

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The only things I think in the case, Bruin,

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or maybe in Rahimi, a different smoker case about guns,

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the only things that the pro-gun control side presented

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were charity bonds and going armed laws,

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which were really after the fact things.

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Like if somebody was convicted of like a violent felony

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that shooting people,

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then they could be prohibited from like,

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they would need a charity bond,

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which is essentially like a bond,

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their friend or family member providing a bond,

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stating that they will not commit that thing again,

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or if they commit a similar violent crime again,

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they'll pay certain money or something or they'll be punished.

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That's like a bond after the fact and going armed laws

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where saying people cannot essentially be going armed,

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open carrying and openly threatening people.

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Like that would be called,

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the modern day analog would be,

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what's the word for...

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Brandishing.

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Manishing or brandishing, yeah, brandishing.

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So like that would be what the going armed thing.

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So those two things they referenced and saying,

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those were similar to our training orders in current day,

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even though they're extremely different

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than proactive, ex parte or training orders

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are pre-judicial, preemptive,

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whereas those were after the fact or whatever.

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But yeah, that was,

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I wanted to mention the Hawaii thing,

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and I think there was some comment

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that I wanted to correct about Bruin.

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That was the case in Bruin, New York State

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and or New York City did not allow people

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to have firearms printed ever,

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and that case was tremendous

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and amazing for gun rights in general

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because it made it,

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like essentially everyone has to be a shell issue.

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And unless there's a reason not to give someone a permit

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and let them carry,

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you have to give them a permit.

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The issue is New York,

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New York right away the next day said,

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all right, we'll give you permits

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and you can carry wherever you want,

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except for sensitive places.

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Oh yeah, very vague on purpose.

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As any place that's like a government building

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or school or church or public place

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where people are, where there could be kids

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or adults or men or women or the public

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or a lot of people or outside or gather

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or people can be upset.

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So every place in the world is a sensitive place

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by the definition of that statute

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can't carry anywhere.

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And it's so vague it's like I could just say

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that my house is sensitive because I feel like it,

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like, you know, it's just too vague.

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Yeah, I think it is fine getting the statute

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but it included like pretty much every place.

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Yeah, it's probably what you describe

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as overly broad and at that point

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it's just arbitrary, right?

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They can just go after whoever they want

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selectively, you know, for reasons

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that have nothing to do with the reason

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the law was intended.

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So political persecution basically

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and there's lots of laws like that.

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In Allu, you know what?

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I don't bring it up enough on the show.

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I forget, but you remind me just for being Allu.

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You didn't say it, but we need to always talk more

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and I don't know if I've ever told this

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to Chris specifically or had this conversation

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with Mr. Penguin specifically

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that New Hampshire has the worst red flag

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laws in the union.

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Did you know that?

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I don't just believe it.

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No, they passed it not that long ago

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and it was terrible.

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What they are are, it's in the,

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what is it called Allu, the thing

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that I got against the freaky guy

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that came to my house, restraining orders.

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Yeah, the restraining order laws under,

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I think RSA 173, it's the restraining order laws

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and if you read it, it's exactly

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the red flag law and it's the worst in union.

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Yeah, we actually know somebody who was,

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I think impacted by it.

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No, yeah, if you're talking about an ex-host

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who had a crazy girlfriend, that person was

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absolutely affected by that.

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Yes, but I don't know if it was that specifically

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that law because it was, so what happened

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was basically, there was a false accusation

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made by the woman who was crazy basically

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and she has a history of it basically.

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A history and we went, I went to the hearing,

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did you?

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I think you did.

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I didn't know you were there.

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I don't remember you being there.

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Maybe we're not talking about the same person

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because this is a pretty tales old time type of thing.

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I don't know if it's really wrong for me to say

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it's a matter of public record, right?

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I mean, go ahead and say it.

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I wasn't going to be, I wasn't,

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I'm not that particularly concerned about it.

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I'm saying his name.

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I don't, I don't think it matters.

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We didn't, we didn't, we didn't,

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I don't think we published anything on it

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or anything like that, but.

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Yeah, maybe it's not public.

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I mean it was kind of personal, but.

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Civil, so this one person we know

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had a girlfriend up in the North country.

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They lived together.

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She and him fought all the time.

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She, they broke up and she took pictures

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of like consensual spanking marks.

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And it was a single mark.

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And it was clearly.

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It was, yeah.

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It was, it was many years prior.

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They broke up and then they got back together.

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Yes.

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That's what's even crazier about it.

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And he didn't want to go hard against her in court,

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but actually, you know what?

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That all that is irrelevant.

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What I'm trying to say is he was

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absolutely affected by this

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because he has guns taken away

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just for the accusation.

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Right.

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And that just to be clear,

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that wasn't the red flag law, I don't believe.

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It is.

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It's just not, it doesn't have that name.

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It's the.

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It's the same.

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It's the same thing conceptually about.

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That's basically what it is.

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It's conceptually the same.

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So in his case, I think it had to do

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with like a restraining order.

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Yes.

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And that's what we're saying.

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But this, this predates the restraining order.

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It's, it's somebody makes an accusation to the police

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and the police can just go and take them, I think.

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Right.

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Is that not, I'm not.

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So that's part of the restraining order.

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They call it an emergency order protection.

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Oh, okay.

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So it's sort of just extensive restraining order.

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I also have some personal experience with this,

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which some people didn't know about.

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I had to get a restraining order on someone.

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It was my last ditch effort

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because this person was threatening me

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and other people here at the house.

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And also coming and blocking off my front door,

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we had to chase them away with a gun.

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And he was threatening me.

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And the police would do nothing.

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Sorry.

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No, wait, we didn't go to the police first.

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We sent, we got a private investigator.

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And one thing he did was go talk to the police himself.

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They told him they wouldn't do anything about it.

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He said, what is it?

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The Wild West in, Keen, New Hampshire.

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And the cops like made fun of him.

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They're like, yeah, it's the Wild West in Keen, New Hampshire.

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Yeah.

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You're letting somebody who's threatening me

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absolutely plausibly or is that the word of, you know,

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it's believable he could hurt me.

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And coming to my house very often

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and he was crazy.

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He was saying that Ian owed him $60 billion

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and Ian didn't even know him.

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But anyways, I got a restraining order on him.

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So this like inside information I'm talking about

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was when I went to file it, they asked you,

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do you want us to take this guy's guns

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in basically those words?

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And you can check yes or no.

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I put no.

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And then the judge gets to look at that

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and decide, do I want to take this guy's guns away?

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And they overrode me.

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They wrote, and I have all this record.

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Like I could prove that I didn't ask to get the guy's guns

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taken away.

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He didn't have guns.

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And so he didn't get his guns taken away.

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But he absolutely, when he got served,

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they would have taken his guns that day

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because the judge just overrode me

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and wrote, I'm going to take his guns away.

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Yeah.

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And the issue is this is ex parte

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and requires zero accusation

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and zero evidence, no print approved.

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Not even an accusation of any actual wrongdoing

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or stalking.

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All it requires is literally filing the form

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and therefore, you know, essentially asking

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for the order and the judge,

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they overstamp the initial order every time.

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And it's a red flag of confiscation,

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among other things.

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It could even be that the hearing happens.

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The judge is like, yeah, this woman's crazy.

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I'm not going to give this a restraining order to her.

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But it'd be too late.

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The guns already got taken away.

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They went to the person's house

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when they started to take his guns away.

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They go in your house and take your guns away.

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The judge also ordered I get any of his pets,

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just side note.

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I don't, I didn't ask for any of his guns.

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I'm sorry, what?

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I have the paperwork.

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And I used to think it was saying that I get his kids,

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but me and Olu went over it and I was like,

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oh, no, mind this is saying I get his pets.

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That's better.

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That's weird and messed up and makes no sense.

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And oh, Olu, I mean, sorry, Angelo is joining us.

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No, so why wait, but the pets, that doesn't.

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Is it jointly owned or if it was his?

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Remember, I went over this with you.

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It said like any jointly owned kids and then any pets.

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And it was just really badly written.

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Oh, so that's probably like for.

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So it didn't include the kids, but it did include pets.

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Well, no, that just makes sense for like,

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if it's a domestic abuse.

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Exactly, but they wrote it.

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Probably could live together.

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Badly in this and it shouldn't have been checked

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because I didn't even say I had any kids or this person

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and I didn't have any pets or this guy.

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I didn't know who he was.

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Yeah, the moral of the story is anybody who supports

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due process or freedom or gun rights or anything

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would definitely benefit and would enjoy reading

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presumably and the pocket guide to killing gun control.

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They're both an audible now as well.

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So Kindle, audible, paperback, I could discuss all this

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and the gun control book is very short and simple.

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Nice, I agree.

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And I really want more random status to know that

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we have bad red, red gun laws or sorry.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, yeah, it's something we need to get rid of.

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It's funny because we actually have

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some of the best gun laws in the country.

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I know other ones.

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Other than that.

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But again, the penguin, I'm sure you guys understand this

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strategically because it's embedded in the

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restraining order statute.

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Nobody knows about it and knows to find out about it.

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They can't fight it politically.

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It's the hardest political challenge in the world

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is messing around with the restraining order statute.

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I tried talking to somebody.

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Nobody wants that they touch it.

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Some Republican but Liberty Republican state reps

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and they said that the Democrats will absolutely

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be like, no, you guys are trying to take away

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women's protection.

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Yes, of course.

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And it's just a no go.

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Even like the biggest Liberty reps, you know,

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we're like, no, please, we're not going to put that in.

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Yeah, I get it.

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It takes a lot of courage.

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And remember, I was at that hearing

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where I think David Love, who's a conservative state rep,

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said thank you with the victim of restraining order

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like this, or red flag law.

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And he had a hard time getting his guns back.

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And I think he testified in favor of it.

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But very few others did.

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Me, him, maybe not something to stop.

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So anyway, there was a DA of the county attorney

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of Merrimack County and his assistant.

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They came and testified.

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And I got a video of it.

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There's a short video on Liberty Block on Odyssey.

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I remember they pretty much said,

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if we amend this, then people will be able to kill their wives

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and beat their wives and abuse their wives.

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And they'll have no recourse.

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And I'm like, this is just so pathetic.

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What are you smoking?

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Like seriously?

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And I'm like, oh, it's still a crime.

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I'm like, you know, murder.

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And it's not ending in a domestic abuse.

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It's still a crime.

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All we're talking about is the ex parte red flag gun law

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that is made without an accusation or evidence

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and is granted ex parte.

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We're not talking about, you know,

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they made it seem, again, they were trying to trick us

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because they were disingenuous bastards.

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They were trying to make it seem

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like a man can beat his wife and shoot his wife

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and kidnap and torture.

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And there could be no kind of prosecution for any crime.

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Ridiculous.

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If we amend this law.

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Yep.

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Absolutely preposterous.

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It's disgusting.

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Yep.

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It's scary.

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That's a war of against.

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It takes a lot of courage to change this,

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but thank you so much for the call.

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Alllou, do you have anything else?

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Thank you so much.

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No, that's all.

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I gotta run.

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Thanks.

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Yeah, it's okay.

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People should definitely check out Presumed Guilty.

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And I forgot what he said.

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His gun control, one is, if he's still there,

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I don't know if he's still there.

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The pocket guy to kill the gun control.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Alllou.

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You can just look that up on Amazon,

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sorry, Amazon and Alllou Axelman and it'll pop up.

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And thank you for the call.

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The number to call in to get in on the conversation with us

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is 603-283-6160.

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And I'll do it again with you on Free Talk Live.

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You've got me, Bonnie.

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Angelo.

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And Miss Penguin.

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Did it again since we got a new member joining us.

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So we have a caller on the line, another caller on the line.

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Dave Ridley in Colorado.

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You're on Free Talk Live.

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What's on your mind?

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A series about the history of the Free State project.

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Oh, cool.

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Like, do you mean Carla's new series?

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No, mine.

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It's just a talk radio series.

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I'm excited.

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It's just a calling talk series.

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So in 2022 and 23, all the way, I guess from 2022 through 24,

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I would call in a couple of times a year,

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trying to know this year in Free State history.

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And so I just bring people up to date.

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I just remind them of the things that happened in 2003, 2004.

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That's what I mean.

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Well, we managed to get all the way through 2025.

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And there was so much other news that I had to call you about

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that I never got around to telling you about the interesting things

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that happened 20 years ago to the Free Stateers.

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So let's hear them.

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What do you think about it?

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2025, 2005 was most interesting in relation to the Free Stateers

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in the sense that it kind of became the year that they discovered civil disobedience.

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Okay.

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2025.

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And no, oh, five.

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Yeah, I was going to say he corrected himself.

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He said he said 2005.

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I'm trying.

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Yeah, I'm just trying to follow our history 20 years ago and bring it back to life.

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But there was this guy named Mike Fisher.

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And he was a very dedicated Free Stater, kind of like a blue giant.

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I call him a blue giant because he was super effective while he was in state.

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He was only in state for about two years.

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And he called me one day and he said, I figured out what I'm going to do.

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I know how we're going to do this.

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I'm going to do what Gandhi did.

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And so he called the board of barbering.

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He said, I am going to deliver an illegal manicure in front of your offices on the following day.

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Nice.

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And he said, if you don't arrest me, I'll come back the next day and continue doing it every day

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until you arrest me.

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Or I run out of people who will accept manicure.

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And so I make it sound kind of funny, but Fisher was a very serious and somber guy.

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And he was young.

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He was about, he couldn't have been more than 21, I think, when he did this stuff.

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And so he showed up and sure enough, they called, the bureaucrats came out and said,

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you're going to arrest me doing this.

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Yeah, you can't do this.

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And we're going to call the police and he said, okay, I'm just kept on running that

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Emory board.

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And they had a gal that volunteered.

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Yeah, I was wondering.

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I was like, oh, I want people to do this and they do my nails.

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This was in, in Concord, New Hampshire.

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And so then the police showed up and they're like,

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but do we really have to do this?

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And the media was all over it.

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You know, the main TV station was there and the TV station, like, we're going to do it

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and investigation.

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They did a detailed, they did a detailed study of how do you, how do you,

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you know, man, how do you file someone's nails?

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Basically.

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And they asked him all these questions.

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Now, what if this happens to the nail?

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And, you know, what if you see this or what if you see that in their nails?

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They just like interrogated him at the cops or just like,

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so you arrested him.

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How does that feel?

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Okay, thanks.

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This is a master class in how to make them look stupid for the laws they have.

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Yeah.

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I mean, like seriously, like what's the worst that's going to happen?

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They, they cut your little bit of fruit finger off or something and you have to

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go to the hospital or something.

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Well then I'm suing you.

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Then I'm going to sue you.

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There's still liability here, guys.

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I got an infection from a male place here in Keen.

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Just never went back.

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I just do my own nails.

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Okay, yeah, fair enough.

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They didn't, they have a license, right?

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Like, so it's not like it stops.

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Well, I'm also thinking like most of the nail salons I've seen,

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those old Asian women aren't going to tell you if there's something

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wrong with your nails anyways.

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They're just going to talk amongst each other and make fun of you for it.

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They're not going to give you, they're not going to be like,

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Oh, you need doctor.

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No, they're just going to laugh at each other with each other.

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And that's not, that's not even, they're not doctors.

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Like you wouldn't expect them to tell you that.

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Like you need to see a doc.

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I mean, if there's something wrong with your nails,

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like you got fungus growing in them, go, you know,

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go get some sort of thing to kill it or see a doctor, right?

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You have to have a fungus in your nail.

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Oh, I would hope so.

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But you know that you would think that like for their own good.

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I mean, not because of the law, right, right, right?

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Like you think, no, my grandfather, he would go.

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He had, I mean, he got it like while he was in the military

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in like the fifties before they knew anything.

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So his toenail was like yellow

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and he'd go down to the dang nail salon

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and they would work on his feet.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah.

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Like to help.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Cause like, you know, little like.

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Like helping with treatments and whatnot.

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Yeah.

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My thing was my friend, well, maybe it's not that big of a deal.

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Like how I got a toe infection.

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I did everything she told me to do when I got home

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and I was slowly just happened,

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but I didn't go and try to bring her the state down on this woman.

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I just thought you guys are making me think

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that maybe we need some of these license things.

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No, I'm just kidding.

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I mean, honestly, like these are all things

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that are like they're not big enough of a deal

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to like have a license in the first place,

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but to whatever degree that like it's an issue.

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It's like a liability issue.

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And the thing is like a license doesn't solve

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the liability problem.

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Like that's why that's why companies get insurance.

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They get bonds.

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And so you're, you know, whether, like for example,

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like you wouldn't necessarily think somebody,

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I don't know who kind of thinks some of the examples,

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but like, you know, maybe does tree work would, you know,

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like insurance, but though they actually do,

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if you think about it, because if the tree falls on the house

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or, you know, they, they, they cut into a,

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maybe they're digging out a tree, right?

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Like maybe a small bush or something like that.

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And they hit a water line or some sort of sewer line.

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Well, you know, that could be a $500 bill right there.

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And so, yeah, I mean, it's, it's,

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something else has to come in and fix it.

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And, and it's the home.

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I mean, technically that doesn't necessarily.

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So the interesting part about that actually is,

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I'm not sure that there's a law that mandates they have insurance,

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but one of the things they always ask you to do,

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or they tell you to do is to check to see if they have insurance.

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It's, it's not whether they're licensed,

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it's whether they have insurance before you go and hire a,

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you know, a tree, somebody to deal with your trees basically.

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So.

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I agree.

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It's like just having insurance fixes this.

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Right.

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It's like just, just basic consumer kind of like knowledge.

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Well, I wonder how much like the beautician schools lobby

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to keep these things like there.

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It's a lobby.

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Yeah.

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Oh, it's a huge industry.

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It's a lobbyist industry.

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And the reason they want these licenses actually is,

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it's actually standard in like business school

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to teach this stuff.

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But once you've established an industry,

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you want licensing, you want barriers to entry

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because it keeps out your competition.

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Now, usually braiding in here,

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like especially like black girl hair.

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Well, black people here, they have licensing for braiding.

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It's like, what can go wrong with braiding?

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Come on.

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It's ridiculous.

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If you have more to say, you can stay on the line.

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They really, I love this series.

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It's a really awesome idea.

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And I did not know anything about this.

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Mike Fisher guy or this specific activism.

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That's so, that's really inspiring.

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That's so good.

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I'm so excited to hear if there's more to say about it.

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More free talk lab coming up either way.

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6-0-3-2-8-3-6-1-6-0.

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When New Hampshire peacefully leaves the union,

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will we have to take on some of the national debt?

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Let's be clear.

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That's not national debt.

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That's federal debt.

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Debt that was incurred by a bunch of people

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that we didn't elect, forcing policies on us

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that we didn't want,

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and two and a half million unelected federal bureaucrats.

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According to Professor Matt Quartrup from Coventry University

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and the foremost expert on independence referenda,

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the rule in international law

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is that political divorce is not like domestic divorce

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in that there is no alimony due

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and no obligation to pay the debt incurred

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by the larger organization.

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New Hampshire's government is a paragon

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of fiscal responsibility compared to the United States

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federal government.

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We didn't create the national debt.

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We didn't consent to it.

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And when we declare peaceful independence,

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New Hampshire will not owe a single solitary dime

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of federal debt.

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You can learn more about how we can peacefully

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divorce D.C. at nhindependence.org

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and join the movement at nhexit.us.

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From feature story news in Washington,

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I'm Tony Waterman.

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According to New York Times sources,

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President Donald Trump is reviewing an option

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to send American forces into Iran to carry out raids.

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It's unclear if those raids would target

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government officials or even the supreme leader.

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The option carries new weight

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after U.S. forces captured Venezuelan president

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Nicolas Maduro earlier this month.

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A strike fleet has already been positioned near Iran

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and U.S. officials say the military

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is ready to carry out any orders from the president.

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Trump is demanding Iran end its nuclear program

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and stop killing demonstrators

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if it wants to avoid U.S. military action.

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Iran's foreign minister said on Friday

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that Tehran will not negotiate under threat

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and that its defense system will never be up for negotiation.

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President Trump has nominated Kevin Warsh,

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a banking executive to head the U.S. central bank.

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Warsh was widely expected to secure the nod

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and is believed to share the president's desire

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to see U.S. interest rates fall more rapidly.

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FSN's Simon Marks reports.

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President Trump has been hinting for days

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at the possibility that Kevin Warsh

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is his choice to replace Jerome Powell

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as the chairman of the Fed.

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Now he's confirmed it.

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Over his social media account,

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the president said he expects Mr. Warsh

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to go down as one of the great Fed chairman,

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maybe the best.

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The president described his selection

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as coming from central casting,

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a possible reference to Mr. Warsh's

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clean-cut professional appearance,

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but also to his background.

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He's a former Fed governor

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and a senior figure at the investment bank, Morgan Stanley.

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Certainly, President Trump is hoping

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that Mr. Warsh will prove loyal to his demands

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for lower interest rates,

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though when the president's selection

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faces confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill,

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many lawmakers will want to know

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whether he's willing to protect

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the central bank's independence

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or make it a political arm of the Trump administration.

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Former CNN anchor Don Lemon is in custody

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after being arrested in connection

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with his reporting during the recent

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Minneapolis ICE protests.

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The 59-year-old's lawyer says

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Mr. Lemon has done nothing wrong

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and insists he is protected

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by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

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FSN's Mitch McCann reports.

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The charges that the Justice Department

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chose to file were not immediately clear,

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but Don Lemon's lawyer says

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they will be fought vigorously in court.

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The former TV anchor was arrested

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in Los Angeles on Thursday,

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where he was there to cover the Grammy Awards.

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Its report of the arrest is in relation

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to Mr. Lemon's coverage of an ICE protest

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that took place inside a Minneapolis

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church in recent weeks.

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It's reported that following the protest,

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a federal judge initially declined to sign off

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on an arrest warrant for Mr. Lemon.

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Former colleagues and lawmakers

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have defended the broadcaster.

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From Bureaux Worldwide, this is FSN.

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The phone number to get in on the conversation with us.

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You can talk about whatever you want.

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You can talk about what we're talking about,

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change the subject.

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It doesn't matter.

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It's Free Talk Live.

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And with you on Free Talk Live,

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tonight you've got me, Bonnie.

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And we have Dave Ridley still on the line.

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Thank you for holding over the break, Ridley.

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By the way, if people want more of Dave Ridley,

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you can go to RidleyReport.com.

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I really love this series idea you're doing.

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It's different than what I mentioned about Carl,

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by the way, kind of embarrassing,

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but I didn't mean to do that.

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But it is much different.

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Carla's just talking about different instances of activism

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she was involved in,

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and she's just doing it on her podcast.

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And that's great, too.

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I recommend you.

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She'll listen to it.

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It's pretty cool.

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But I love Ridley's side of this,

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because you've been here longer,

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and I knew nothing about this 2005 guide.

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Yeah, Ridley is definitely a good person

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with historical knowledge of the Free State Project,

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because of how long he's been around.

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And OG, as the guest would say.

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Oh, yeah, for sure.

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I did one interview for an OG activist,

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and it was Ridley.

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So if you guys are interested,

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you can go to our free talk live places

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where we have our archives.

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Like if you go to freetalklive.com,

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you'll find it by like our SoundCloud.

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You can look up Bonnie's activist archives.

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That's what I called it,

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and I did one interview for it.

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And it was Ridley, and it was awesome.

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There's actually a surprising number of people

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who are around from back in those days.

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But I mean, you have to remember

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the whole Free State Project was really, really tiny

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at that point in terms of louvers.

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Like more badass, I'd say.

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Oh, yeah.

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I mean, I don't know if I describe it quite like that.

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But yeah, no, certainly.

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They were doing the pretty hardcore stuff for sure.

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I think it helped too,

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because the internet wasn't what it was.

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And now it's like it's so easy to Google somebody.

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Like let's, you know,

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like 10 years after, 20 years after the fact, almost.

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And you guys are making me feel old.

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Oh, this guy.

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Well, you know.

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I know.

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Yeah, I was five in 2005.

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You guys are making me feel old.

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So, but I'm just thinking like if you would have done,

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especially with like cancel culture, right,

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where they dig up everything you've ever said

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on the internet ever.

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You know, doing that kind of stuff,

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it just has more of a spotlight now

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because of the internet, right?

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Nobody, like he didn't go viral doing that.

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So he didn't get canceled.

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And he probably could still get a job.

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No, he did get.

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Dave, didn't you get Shadow Band?

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No, he means Mike.

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We didn't get canceled doing the pedicure thing.

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Yeah.

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Like nobody's going to not give him a job 10 years from now.

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Like like in 2015, nobody went back and found that.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I think it's a different era of.

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I mean, it's a lot of that stuff has sort of been

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scrubbed from the internet.

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So you can't easily find it anyway.

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So kind of get that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's what I'm saying.

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But now everything's like on the big five platforms,

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like, you know, Twitter, Facebook, you know.

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I mean, but doesn't that doesn't that stuff kind of go away

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over time?

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I mean, not if you could not if you look up their name,

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and you really want to find racist.

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Yeah.

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So not if you get called racist for some reason,

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they'll find it.

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I don't know.

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I think I think you I think just that probably has enough

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time hasn't gone by yet.

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But yeah, I don't know.

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But do you have more friends in the story?

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Dave, we had a we had a crowd of about 20 people

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there to support him.

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And I got video of it.

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And the Keith Murphy current state,

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I think he's a state senator now.

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He was there that day and John Connell,

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who we lost in a mysterious fire.

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He was there that day.

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And anyway, so it was a seminal event in free

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state or history.

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And it was all over the press.

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And there was a political cartoon about it.

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And it triggered scrutiny of the the way that that

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law had come into being that said you had to have

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three, you know, 1500 hours of training or

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something that you did by someone's nails with

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an emery board.

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And they did, you know, and what got in the press

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was, hey, this lady who sponsored the bill

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ran a barber shop or something, you know,

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like this would help protect her from

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competition if this bill were passed.

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And then we I sponsored or I requested the

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bill at the legislature to follow up and get

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rid of the law that year.

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And I went and, you know, we didn't do very well.

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We were made fun of and everything.

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But I told, you know, I saw that one of these

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authoritarian reporters hanging around.

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I said, hey, Colin, you know, the outlaw

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manicure bill is coming up in a few minutes.

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You can come up and see it and make fun of us.

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So he did.

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He came up and covered the bill and made fun of us.

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And, you know, but what happened?

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Oh, and while speaking of licensed, licensed

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barbers, one of them, there were people that

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were trying to stop this bill.

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They were really angry that barbers like

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showed up like a union or something.

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It was like being surrounded by SDI here.

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I can see this.

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One of them, one of them assaulted me

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at the hearing and like laid hands on my head

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and said, look at that spot on your head

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that someone, they missed it, you know,

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because I had shaved all my head.

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I had barbers shave my head off.

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You missed a spot and, you know, I said,

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I licensed barber and missed a spot.

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Not me.

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No, hi.

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It sounds great.

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Oh, that's a great comeback.

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He hit you in the head when he did that.

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Say what?

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Did you say he hit you in the head

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when he poked it or something?

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And then the lady and she was putting

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her hands on my head.

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Wow.

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Gross.

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And then,

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She should do the license.

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But that would be really funny to file a complaint.

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Because she was talking about it.

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Yeah, against the, because it's a license,

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you can file a complaint against the people that were, yeah.

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Head touching license.

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I mean, you asked for the head touching license.

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Sorry.

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Now you have to lose it.

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Years later, though, when no one was looking very closely,

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the bill was, the law, I think, was struck off the books.

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And no, he's no longer, you just don't have to,

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you don't have to get 1500 hours of training now

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to file nails with an Emory board, as I understand it.

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Did they lower it or did they just get rid of it all the way?

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I think they got completely rid of it or something

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where it's just much easier now.

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I, yeah, it's interesting.

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Like, you know, people laugh, like there's,

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what I always remember is the,

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oh, I'm trying to think of the guy,

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the television guy who made fun of the keen parking meter

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activist, right?

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Like it was, it's really funny.

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Actually, I don't know if you can find it on YouTube anymore.

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I think it got taken down, but it's really funny

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because people went around filling parking meters

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and the, I forget who the guy is,

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but he's like some left-wing talk show host.

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Like Jimmy Kimmel, maybe?

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No, it's not him.

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I know it if I heard the name, but

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Dave, you probably know the name.

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I just can't think of it at the moment, but

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Is it like one of the political late night guys?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Like a John Stuart or Stephen Colbert?

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That's it, Stephen Colbert.

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Yeah, Stephen Colbert.

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Anyway, but yeah, he made, they came out

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and they made a whole thing of it.

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Like they did a ton of video.

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And so like half of the show is like basically

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them like following around Chris Cantwell.

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I'm trying to think who else was there.

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Garrett Ian.

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Yeah. Was it Garrett Ian?

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James, I think it was James.

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So it might have been Garrett Ian and James.

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Yeah, I think that was the three of them.

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Anyway, but yeah, so, but it was just,

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they just mocked him like you wouldn't believe.

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But what's awesome about that is like,

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that's mocking to a normie,

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but that is advertisement to somebody who's season is like,

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that's amazing what they're doing.

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And I don't think anybody was expecting to change anything.

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Like politically with that, it was literally a publicity stunt

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to attract attention to the Free State Project

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and the people who get it, right?

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Like libertarians.

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It was, it was super useful.

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And it has lasting effects till today because

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Oh, we're still talking about it, right?

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I have done Robin Hooding with Joa

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and now when Jane sees me coming, she turns around

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and I get all the people saved from their tickets.

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Yeah.

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That happens literally more often than you'd think,

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like a few times a year.

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I'm driving around.

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I have nothing to do.

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Is Jane the local?

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The ticketer.

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The thing, the ticket lady.

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The thing to remember too is that while a lot of these things

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that like we're fighting like,

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like we're kind of being made fun of,

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like that we're doing.

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It's done in fun.

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It's done in great fun and interactive publicity.

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But then later years later, we end up getting,

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we end up winning like, or not winning,

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but getting bills passed to like fix those problems.

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I'm trying to think one of them was,

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one of them was that used to be,

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you had to, I think submit a,

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in order to get a license to concealed carry,

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you had to submit some paperwork to the sheriff

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for approval and then like,

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they just could arbitrarily deny you.

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And we actually had some of our activists

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denied a concealed carry permit.

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You know, and of course, you know,

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nothing, nothing happened at that point.

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But years later, those, that, that law changed.

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So you don't need to get any kind of concealed permit

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anymore in order to conceal.

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Was that Derek J?

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I think it was, I think Ian was one of the people.

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And I think it might have been Derek J

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made up in the other person.

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Yeah.

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I think it was like two people.

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But anyway,

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It became constitutional carry anyway.

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Right. Exactly.

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And so the whole point that I'm making is like,

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there's stuff that we do.

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And then I guess I don't know

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if that was really activism

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or what now, but it would,

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what I think it was kind of,

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they wanted to see what would happen, right?

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And, but the point, the point there is that

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the activism

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Derek's carry gun anyway.

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That's activism.

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I don't know if he committed civil disobedience

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in that particular case,

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but he certainly did commit civil disobedience

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a lot of civil disobedience

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for really, really minor stuff.

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Which you can watch it.

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Derek J's victimless crime spree.

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Absolutely best documentary ever.

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If you, if there's,

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if there's one documentary you will ever see,

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that's the one you need to see.

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That's Chris's opinion.

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I love it.

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I really do it.

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No, I enjoy it.

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Me and Riley, well,

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Riley sat with me while I watched it

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the other day.

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Riley listened to it.

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He'd seen it here, heard about it.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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He's, he's experienced it before.

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But he was like, no,

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I hadn't watched the full thing.

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I've seen clips.

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I've heard of it.

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I've heard the story.

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I hadn't watched the full thing

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all the way through in one sitting.

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And Riley took me and said,

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sit down boy,

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you're gonna, you're gonna watch this here.

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Yeah. I can't tell you how many people

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moved to the free state

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because of that, that documentary.

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And there was one.

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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I mean, yeah, definitely Derek Jay.

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Derek Jay is a victimless crime spree.

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If we talk live.

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He's not the website.

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Did I get the website?

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Derek Jay, if you type in Derek Jay,

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victimless crime spree,

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you'll get it.

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It's on YouTube.

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It's also on his page.

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I don't know if the page

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is just a link to YouTube though.

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It might just be an embedded video

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on the, on the website itself.

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But the website's still up, by the way.

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I do want to let make sure

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that Dave Ridley gets to get out

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everything he wants to get out

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for his series of calls on

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OG, New Hampshire activism.

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So is there anything else you want to say, Ridley?

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Well, we learned some important lessons

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from this particular civil disobedience

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and the arrest and the follow up.

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And one of the things was

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how important it is to support

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the activist who goes to jail.

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So he went to jail,

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but we hadn't thought about that part.

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And so we didn't,

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we didn't have like people ready

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to take him home when he got out of jail.

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He kind of just popped out

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a couple of days later

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and we didn't, we weren't ready.

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And he was kind of stranded there

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for a while and he didn't get

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the support that he needed.

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And I think that was maybe

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even the first step in him

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kind of getting a little bit

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disillusioned.

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And eventually he left the state

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and it was really sad.

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We're definitely better about that now.

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Oh yeah.

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People are just calling the jails,

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figuring out which jail he's going to.

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We're, we're definitely on top of that.

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I mean, like every time

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that somebody's been released,

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like even if I once,

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I once ran and picked somebody up,

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I think it was 2 a.m. in the morning.

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Just out of the blue,

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like they were messaging

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and I guess that his phone wasn't taken,

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but like.

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Me and you went to go get nobody.

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We've both went to go get Ian.

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Yeah, yeah.

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We've helped out Joe

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when he's been arrested

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and all this stuff.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah, like it wasn't.

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And it's like,

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and we're talking about like last minute,

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like you don't even know

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these people are going to,

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I mean,

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you might have an idea

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that they're going to be getting out

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maybe,

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but you might not have any idea

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and you just,

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you just get a message

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and all of a sudden it's like,

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it's a weird hours

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and it's like,

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you're trying to get all these people together

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that you know around you

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in order to go

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and it's like,

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we have a huge community here,

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but like how many people

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are going to be able to just

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take off at the moment's notice

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to go pick somebody up

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from the jail?

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And not just that.

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I do feel for the early activists,

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like I don't feel like we should

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judge them too harshly

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because a lot of this stuff

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is hard to figure out.

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You got to have the energy activists

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who've already been through it

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to tell you how,

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okay,

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you got to call the jail

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and ask about this

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and get a personal,

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you know,

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all this stuff.

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I wouldn't just know what to do.

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If my friend got arrested

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while I lived in Texas,

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I would not know what to do,

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you know?

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Yeah,

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I definitely have to give credit

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to the early activists

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who moved here.

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Not,

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not,

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I'm not even talking about the people

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who,

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we have tons of activists here

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that have moved over the decades,

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and there's a lot of them

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are still here even,

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but the point is that

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those early activists

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in particular,

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when they moved,

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there was nobody here,

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right?

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Like,

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I mean,

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I moved,

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but like,

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there was,

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there was thousands of people here already,

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right?

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Like,

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I don't have an excuse not to move.

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Somebody who's never,

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when there's nobody

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in there yet,

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like,

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nobody's in New Hampshire,

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why would you move, right?

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Like,

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it's just a,

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it's sort of a dream,

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right?

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But it's not a real one.

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It's,

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it's like,

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it's a fiction, right?

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And that's kind of how I look,

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look at it,

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looked at it

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when I first heard about the

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Freestyle Project in

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2000,

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what was it,

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three maybe,

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when they first announced in New

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Hampshire,

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as a destination.

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And it was like,

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I just wrote it off,

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but it was also the,

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it was also something that

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even then to me was just like,

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oh, I,

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like,

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I have to do this,

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but like,

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it wasn't real,

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right?

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So like,

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I wasn't gonna move,

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I wasn't gonna drop out of college and go.

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And it took me,

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it wasn't until like another decade,

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I want to say at least another decade or so,

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before I was,

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I heard of it again

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and I was like,

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oh my gosh,

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that actually happened.

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And I wouldn't have moved

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if it wasn't for those,

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you know,

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early movers,

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you know,

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if I didn't,

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you know,

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if it wasn't for those early activists who,

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you know,

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did things,

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you know,

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to get media attention and stuff.

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Well,

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I probably nobody else would have heard of it

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either for that matter.

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So those people are absolutely

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some of the most important people,

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I think out there

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and they deserve a lot of credit.

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And then Dave,

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thank you,

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thank you for your,

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yes,

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Dave Ridley.

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I know,

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I know a lot of you guys don't,

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don't hear,

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hear anybody appreciate,

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telling you they appreciate,

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you know,

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what you did.

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But I just want to let you know,

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we appreciate you here.

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And there are,

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you know,

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for those who know,

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anyway,

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I'm sure there's lots of other people

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who also appreciate you here as well.

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Yeah.

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Oh, thanks, Chris.

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Well,

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the other thing we learned from the,

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from this is that,

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apparently Gandhi was pretty much right

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when he said that

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for civil disobedience to be effective,

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it must trigger a response from the government.

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So when I did a civil disobedience

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campaign later,

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the reason it had to be a campaign

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a couple of years later

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was because I couldn't get them to arrest me.

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So I didn't,

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I didn't do this.

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I didn't do the Fisher thing,

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you know,

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where I said,

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I'm just going to keep doing it.

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I'm going to keep coming back.

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Yeah.

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I would just show up and do something

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and then,

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you know,

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go do something else.

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I can confirm it.

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I had to be,

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I had to perform,

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I think

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10 acts of civil disobedience

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in front of government officers

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before I could get myself arrested.

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It took forever.

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Yeah.

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I have to say,

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it was when we moved to New Hampshire in 2016,

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it was almost impossible to get arrested.

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I mean,

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we did a open container protest with,

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like,

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with,

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what is it,

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bowl?

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Yeah.

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Fake alcohol,

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whatever.

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Anyway,

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and they were,

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they,

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they were too quick to pick up on it.

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Like that,

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and they didn't do anything.

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And it was just like,

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wow,

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this is actually pretty hard to get arrested here.

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Even like,

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even when they pull you over,

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like for like,

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you know, stuff like,

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like they just kind of like,

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let you go.

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This guy named Preston H. now,

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he was doing,

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I don't know if he is now,

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he was doing First Amendment audits in New Hampshire

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and in Keen.

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He went around just last year with,

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fake,

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it's like,

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Heineken,

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I think it is,

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like zero alcohol beer.

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And he was walking around next to,

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in front of a cop doing it,

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like kind of teasing him,

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like,

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what are you going to do about it?

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And then the cop put him in handcuffs

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and he said,

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you didn't even do an investigation.

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He was like,

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I don't care.

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And he was like,

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look at the beer.

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And he was like,

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looked at the beer

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and he saw that zero percent.

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So he starts unhandcuffing him.

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And he's like,

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you,

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is it against your roles to not do an investigation

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before handcuffing someone?

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And the cop just tried to like,

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leave with us to tail box between his legs.

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He actually called and got him in trouble.

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He got him in trouble for not investigating.

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It's literally what they have to do.

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Yeah.

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They should,

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they should definitely be like,

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sure that you're doing something wrong.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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it is kind of ridiculous.

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It's like, they just,

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yeah.

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They don't have,

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how would I phrase this?

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Two brain cells are rubbed together.

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I mean, it's sort of,

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I mean, it's stereotypical,

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but it's also kind of true.

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I agree.

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Do you have anything else for us?

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Anyway, you should be able to see the video of this,

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of the arrest and everything,

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the whole 2005 event.

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I eventually uploaded it to RidleyReport.com, I think.

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Okay.

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Awesome.

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So if we search Matt,

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what was it?

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Matt Fisher on there,

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we should be able to find it.

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I think Outlaw Manicure is the, you know.

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Outlaw Manicure.

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All right, nice.

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Something like that.

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Yeah.

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Very, very fun.

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Are you going to do more calls about 2005?

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Is that how this will work?

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Yeah, there's a lot more to tell you about 2005.

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Hopefully I can get to them by the end of 2026.

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Yay.

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I love this.

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I love this.

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If you're going to start doing it routinely,

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calling in about this stuff,

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because this is all,

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I can't tell you how many stories I am aware of,

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but I'm sure there's so many that I am unaware of.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you for the call, David Lee.

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There was so much I was unaware of when I interviewed him

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about his activism.

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And I'm so happy this first call in this series

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was one I'd never heard of.

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I love that.

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Really excited.

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I mean, there's 20 years of activism now in New Hampshire.

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So like there's going to be a ton of stuff.

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And most of the people here,

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they haven't been here a decade.

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I've been here a long time,

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and I haven't really,

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I don't feel like I've been here that long.

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I've been here about almost 10 years now.

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Oh, nice.

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Yeah, so...

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Do you know your move date?

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March 2016 is when I moved.

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So we should celebrate or something.

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Yeah, actually, that would be really cool.

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That's kind of cool because

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mine was the five years just on the 21st of January.

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21st of January this year was five years,

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and yours is going to be 10.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, it's interesting.

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There's a lot of interesting people

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who have come through here.

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And I'm talking about specifically keen,

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but there's people who...

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It's really funny.

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We have people all over the state actually now,

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but a lot of people who came to New Hampshire,

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moved to New Hampshire as free-staters,

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they stopped in Keen.

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So we kind of exported our activism.

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A lot that did the brunt of activism,

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they went off to live more quiet lives

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in New Hampshire somewhere.

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A lot of them.

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Yeah, I mean, you burn out if you overdo the activism.

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And be one of the only ones.

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One of the things that actually...

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You can be targeted.

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One of the things I actually tried

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not doing was overdoing it, right?

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But you can't.

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To some degree, you got to have fun, right?

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I mean, you come here, you got to do it, right?

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But I think everybody's going to overdo it a little bit,

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but you just sort of have to sort of take it easy,

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slow down over time,

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and just sort of take it easy and keep going, right?

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I feel like I've been way more safe

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than I would have liked to when I first got here.

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It's just that Ian went to jail,

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and it's like, if I go to jail,

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well, what's going to happen?

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Free talk, why?

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Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, that's the thing.

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Not everybody is going to necessarily do

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the most risky kind of activism.

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Almost nobody's gone,

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I don't know if anybody's gone to jail

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for more than like a couple of months, right?

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Or, well, I think actually,

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Rich Paul is the only person I think

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I'm even aware of who's spent a year in a cage.

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So most of the activism that we are doing here

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is actually, first of all, it's victimless.

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There's no victims to it, right?

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So it's dumb laws that we're violating,

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whether that's open container laws,

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or smoke and weed in Central Square,

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or something along those lines.

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That's the kind of activism that tends to be done here.

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So it's not usually too terribly risky.

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Take it things to court and not paying the fines?

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Yeah, parking tickets, yeah, another one.

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Yeah, basically getting a parking ticket,

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fighting the parking ticket,

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and a court, a $5 parking ticket.

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Yeah, I mean, that's one thing I have.

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That's one of the examples of the story I have to tell.

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This is a long time ago now,

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but I'm close to a ticket at this point probably,

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but I got two parking tickets

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and it was the last time, except for you, Bonnie,

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it was the last time anybody ever got a ticketed for,

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or sorry, not ticketed,

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anybody ever got a trial for a parking ticket.

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Yeah, because what I had heard

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is that you'll go to the city,

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you'll say, I want to contest this,

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I want a court date, and they'll just drop it.

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If Ian, if Ian was not there with you,

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or maybe they would have done it

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if they'd known you were Ian's significant other,

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but other than that,

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I think that's the only reason you got a trial,

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because there were many people who tried to get the trials,

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but they would just drop the tickets,

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they'd rip the tickets up instead of giving us trials.

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After I won two parking tickets in one trial.

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Yeah, almost a decade ago.

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You were shocked that they really wanted to give us the trial,

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but it was great for us,

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because I made a video showing exactly how insane court...

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Sure, sure, sure, sure.

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Literally rips, you know, mask off.

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Well, I mean, and this also goes to show that with more people,

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if you have enough people doing stuff,

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even stupid little stuff again and again and again,

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eventually they give up.

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Even when it's still technically illegal,

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or still violates the law, you can have an impact.

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And actually it's another great example

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was the weed in Central Square.

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So Rich Paul also goes by nobody,

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he changed his name so you could vote nobody for mayor,

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by the way.

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But anyway, so Rich Paul,

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you know, this is 15 years ago, probably at this point,

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he basically was...

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There was a protest in Keene Square,

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people smoking weed basically,

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except not yet, because this was early days,

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and weed was still illegal.

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And back then, they basically were just having a protest

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and people had weed,

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but like they weren't openly smoking it.

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Well, two cops were walking to Central Square

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and they sit down right next to Rich,

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and Rich says, you mind if I smoke?

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This is on camera, by the way.

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Yeah, on camera.

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Cops say, no, go ahead, pulls out his weed,

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immediately his arrest doesn't even get a puff in.

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They get, they take him down to the station,

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and they about, I don't know, maybe an hour later,

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half an hour later,

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100 activists who were at the protest

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all go down to the police station,

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and they start smoking weed in the police station.

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Now you can't fit 100 activists

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in the lobby of the police station here,

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but maybe 50 of them were inside,

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50 of them were outside basically.

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And they were smoking.

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And they were smoking weed, right?

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So they were smoking weed in the police station.

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And no one got arrested,

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there's just too many people.

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Cages to put that many people in Keen,

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because Keen's only 23,000 people.

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So yeah, you don't, they don't have enough cages.

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And anyway, after that,

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nobody has ever been arrested,

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and every week I think there was,

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there was basically a smokeout in Keen,

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in Central Square before, well, this was again.

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And they would like circle for years.

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But they would not arrest anyone.

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Yeah, the years before we passed the law,

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we got a lot, we actually got a lot past.

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Well, didn't they just recriminalize it

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in the state of New Hampshire?

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I thought it was decriminalized,

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and I heard that they were trying to recriminalize it.

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It's decriminalized?

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Meaning it's...

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I thought they were trying to change that back though.

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I heard something that worked about it.

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Yeah, I doubt it.

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I mean, it seems unlikely.

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but all that means is it's proposed.

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Yeah, I don't doubt that there's,

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somebody's not proposing a bill to undo stuff,

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and they're always proposing bills to undo stuff,

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but that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to pass.

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They probably won't because Republicans

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are the majority and they're Liberty Republicans,

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you need to be on the Liberty Republic outside as well.

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Well, I mean, this is the thing.

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So this is also part of why it's kind of hard to undo

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a lot of this stuff is because we have New Hampshire,

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the free-staters have about control of one third,

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I'm sorry, one fourth of the house.

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It's, it doesn't, it's, we don't own the house yet,

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but we're getting there.

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And we still have enough political cloud at this point

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to sort of stop bad bills from getting passed.

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I'm interested if you find what you're talking about

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for us to talk about it.

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More free talk live coming up,

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and you can call in 6032836160

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to bring up whatever's on your mind.

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Thanks for the call, Dave Ridley.

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RidleyReport.com, too.

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More free talk live coming up.

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So the protection of life, liberty, and properties

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is what the Free State Project is all about.

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But it's an effort to move 20,000 people who understand.

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It's about demonstrating to the entire country.

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Yeah, we can have a free market, a truly free market.

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Making it just a free, great place to live.

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It's the world's largest volunteerist,

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libertarian community, and it's only getting bigger.

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That's amazing to be able to move to a place

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where other people like passionately believe

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in being free and independent.

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What the Free State Project is managing to do, though,

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is to put their money where their mouth is.

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It's physically getting up across the country

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and saying, let's go someplace

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and let's demonstrate the power of these ideas.

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There's a lot of kind of philosophy

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that surrounds liberty.

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There's a lot of thinking about it and talking about it.

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But here in New Hampshire, people are doing it.

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101 Reasons Liberty Lives in New Hampshire.

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A documentary by Free State Project Early Movers.

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Watch it free at 101reasonsfilm.com.

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So you've signed the Shire Society Declaration

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and are planning your move to New Hampshire

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to be around more liberty-oriented people.

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Next, sign up for the Shire Society Forum

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at forum.shiressociety.com.

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There are a bunch of people there

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who are already in the Shire, and they want to meet you.

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If you're already in the Shire physically,

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you should also come by the forums.

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Remember, not everyone uses Facebook.

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New people are signing up

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Hour number two is next after the news

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From feature story news in Washington, I'm Tony Waterman.

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According to New York Times sources,

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President Donald Trump is reviewing an option

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to send American forces into Iran to carry out raids.

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It's unclear if those raids would target

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government officials or even the supreme leader.

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The option carries new weight after U.S.

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forces captured Venezuelan president

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Nicolas Maduro earlier this month.

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A strike fleet has already been positioned near Iran

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and U.S. officials say the military is ready

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to carry out any orders from the president.

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Trump is demanding Iran end its nuclear program

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and stop killing demonstrators

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if it wants to avoid U.S. military action.

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Iran's foreign minister said on Friday

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that Tehran will not negotiate under threat

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and that its defense system will never be up for negotiation.

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President Trump has nominated Kevin Warsh,

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a banking executive to head the U.S. Central Bank.

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Warsh was widely expected to secure the nod

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and is believed to share the president's desire

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to see U.S. interest rates fall more rapidly.

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FSN's Simon Marks reports.

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President Trump has been hinting for days

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at the possibility that Kevin Warsh

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is his choice to replace Jerome Powell

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as the chairman of the Fed.

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Now he's confirmed it.

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Over his social media account,

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the president said he expects Mr. Warsh

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to go down as one of the great Fed chairman,

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maybe the best.

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The president described his selection

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as coming from central casting,

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a possible reference to Mr. Warsh's

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clean-cut professional appearance,

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but also to his background.

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He's a former Fed governor

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and a senior figure at the investment bank, Morgan Stanley.

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Certainly President Trump is hoping

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that Mr. Warsh will prove loyal

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to his demands for lower interest rates,

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though when the president's selection

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faces confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill,

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many lawmakers will want to know

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whether he's willing to protect

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the central bank's independence

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or make it a political arm of the Trump administration.

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Former CNN anchor Don Lemon is in custody

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after being arrested in connection

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with his reporting during the recent

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Minneapolis ICE protests.

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The 59-year-old's lawyer says

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Mr. Lemon has done nothing wrong

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and insists he is protected

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by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

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FSN's Mitch McCann reports.

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The charges that the Justice Department

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chose to file were not immediately clear,

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but Don Lemon's lawyer says

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they will be fought vigorously in court.

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The former TV anchor was arrested

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in Los Angeles on Thursday,

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where he was there to cover the Grammy Awards.

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It's reported the arrest is in relation

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to Mr. Lemon's coverage of an ICE protest

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that took place inside a Minneapolis church

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in recent weeks.

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It's reported that following the protest,

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a federal judge initially declined to sign off

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on an arrest warrant for Mr. Lemon.

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Former colleagues and lawmakers

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have defended the broadcaster.

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From Bureau's Worldwide, this is FSN.

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With FSN spotlight, I'm Simon Marks,

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ending the week with a very sober warning

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about the rapidity of developments

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in the field of artificial intelligence.

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A new poll this week showed

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that more than a quarter of all workers in Britain

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fear they will lose their jobs to AI in the next five years.

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And this week alone,

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Amazon announced a further 16,000 job losses,

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mainly in America, because of AI.

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This was the week when Jeffrey Hinton,

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the so-called godfather of AI,

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predicted that virtually every single job

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on the planet is going to be replaced

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by the industry that he now regrets having sparked.

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Already we're seeing starting jobs

01:00:00.560 --> 01:00:03.700
in many professions like lawyers being taken over by AI.

01:00:04.460 --> 01:00:07.580
Most experts believe that sometime within the next 20 years,

01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:09.280
quite possibly within 10 years,

01:00:09.620 --> 01:00:10.740
we'll have super intelligence,

01:00:11.240 --> 01:00:12.380
something better than us,

01:00:12.740 --> 01:00:15.200
and that we'll be able to do any new job that's created.

01:00:15.860 --> 01:00:16.680
It'll be all of them.

01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:18.820
The big tech companies are thinking,

01:00:19.340 --> 01:00:21.380
if we can be the first to get really good AI,

01:00:21.980 --> 01:00:22.840
human level AI,

01:00:23.580 --> 01:00:24.820
we can make a lot of money

01:00:25.540 --> 01:00:28.400
selling AI to companies so that they can replace workers.

01:00:29.120 --> 01:00:30.020
As far as I can see,

01:00:30.080 --> 01:00:32.640
that's the only place they can get their huge investments back.

01:00:34.060 --> 01:00:36.460
They're not thinking about the social consequences of that.

01:00:36.580 --> 01:00:38.560
They're assuming somehow the state will take care of it,

01:00:38.720 --> 01:00:39.700
but I don't see how it can.

01:00:40.040 --> 01:00:41.400
What does all that mean for youngsters

01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:43.840
trying to position themselves for the future?

01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.040
Jeffrey Hinton's got ideas for them,

01:00:46.140 --> 01:00:47.880
and you'll hear those on Monday.

01:00:48.820 --> 01:00:50.840
And a recap of today's headlines.

01:00:51.420 --> 01:00:52.800
The New York Times is reporting

01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:55.480
that President Trump is reviewing an option

01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.520
to send U.S. troops into Iran for targeted raids.

01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:03.820
President Trump has nominated banking exec Kevin Warsh

01:01:03.820 --> 01:01:05.440
to head the U.S. Central Bank.

01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.820
Like Trump, Warsh says interest rates should be lower.

01:01:09.460 --> 01:01:12.240
Former CNN anchor Don Lemon has been arrested

01:01:12.240 --> 01:01:14.020
in connection with his reporting

01:01:14.020 --> 01:01:16.160
during Minneapolis ICE protests.

01:01:17.180 --> 01:01:20.240
That's feature story news, Tony Waterman reporting.

01:01:20.240 --> 01:01:24.880
This week, badly shaken researchers reported observing

01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.400
an osprey stalking, killing and devouring an adult male lion

01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:31.040
in what is being called a massive food chain shakeup.

01:01:31.180 --> 01:01:33.520
Confirmation of the three-pound marine bird consuming

01:01:33.520 --> 01:01:36.280
the 400-pound feline has biologists scrambling

01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:38.300
to determine the new predator-prey connections

01:01:38.300 --> 01:01:40.280
between the planet's billions of organisms.

01:01:40.640 --> 01:01:43.380
We seem to be experiencing some sort

01:01:43.380 --> 01:01:46.040
of cross-species dietary free-for-all.

01:01:46.340 --> 01:01:48.100
Scientists say that the killing of the healthy

01:01:48.100 --> 01:01:50.620
full-grown lion by a typical osprey specimen

01:01:50.620 --> 01:01:53.200
has lent credibility to recent reports of a deer

01:01:53.200 --> 01:01:55.800
seen grazing on a nest of squirrels in Wisconsin,

01:01:56.060 --> 01:01:58.520
as well as a claim made by a group of Japanese fishermen

01:01:58.520 --> 01:02:01.020
who say they witnessed 300 million krill

01:02:01.020 --> 01:02:03.140
devouring a 40-ton humpback whale.

01:02:03.520 --> 01:02:05.540
In other news, NASA acquires the moon

01:02:05.540 --> 01:02:07.600
for an upcoming Kennedy Space Center exhibit.

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A radio DJ invites the whole town to some bullsh**

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and assuming the many universes theory

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the review you've just seen will remain relevant

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This from the Wall Street Journal,

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Venice Wayland suddenly have hope for the economy,

01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:11.880
less so for democracy.

01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:13.760
I've been really wanting to read,

01:04:13.900 --> 01:04:15.880
at least what the mainstream media wants us to know

01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.140
about what's going on in Venezuela since.

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It's like we heard about Maduro getting captured

01:04:20.120 --> 01:04:21.420
and we haven't heard anything about it since.

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I am really confused about the title of this article.

01:04:24.900 --> 01:04:27.720
I'm hoping it means that they have hope

01:04:27.720 --> 01:04:30.480
that they're hyperinflated, crappy,

01:04:31.260 --> 01:04:32.540
you know, not just their currency,

01:04:32.640 --> 01:04:34.920
but that they'll be able to have a hope

01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:37.380
for their future without the horrible

01:04:38.040 --> 01:04:38.980
state they've been in.

01:04:39.040 --> 01:04:41.060
What would, nothing has changed, so.

01:04:41.060 --> 01:04:41.820
I don't know.

01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:43.200
I don't, I don't know what's changed

01:04:43.200 --> 01:04:44.540
other than, well, Maduro's gone.

01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:45.540
So maybe that.

01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:46.340
The other party.

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Oh, that's right.

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He was arrested or while he was kidnapped.

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Kidnapped.

01:04:49.640 --> 01:04:49.820
Yeah.

01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:50.360
Yeah.

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And he's not in the United States.

01:04:51.620 --> 01:04:51.920
That's right.

01:04:52.060 --> 01:04:53.320
I don't mind calling it kidnapping.

01:04:53.820 --> 01:04:55.480
And I don't mind saying he's a horrible person.

01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:56.460
That's literally what they did.

01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:57.220
They kidnapped him.

01:04:58.660 --> 01:05:00.020
Yesterday, Angelo informed me,

01:05:00.020 --> 01:05:01.680
and I had not heard this,

01:05:01.780 --> 01:05:02.860
I don't know if you had Mr. Penguin,

01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:05.700
that the Venezuelans were saying that

01:05:05.700 --> 01:05:07.740
the way that they were able to get

01:05:07.740 --> 01:05:10.340
into his house and kidnap him so easily

01:05:10.340 --> 01:05:13.140
was they hit the entire country of Venezuela

01:05:13.140 --> 01:05:15.460
with an energy weapon that Donald Trump

01:05:15.460 --> 01:05:17.260
is calling the Discombobulator

01:05:17.940 --> 01:05:20.120
and it made their ears and eyes bleed,

01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:21.120
or ears and nose bleed.

01:05:21.460 --> 01:05:22.300
Not the whole country.

01:05:22.660 --> 01:05:24.900
They cut power to the whole country.

01:05:25.460 --> 01:05:27.040
And then there was like a microwave

01:05:27.040 --> 01:05:28.780
weapon deployed at the base.

01:05:29.200 --> 01:05:29.720
Okay, so.

01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:30.740
Okay, I guess I mixed up.

01:05:30.860 --> 01:05:32.040
I thought they both did the same thing.

01:05:32.720 --> 01:05:34.800
They cut the entire country's internet

01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:35.220
and everything.

01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:35.500
Yeah.

01:05:35.940 --> 01:05:37.560
This sounds like, this sounds like

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it's a little bit of an exaggeration

01:05:40.060 --> 01:05:41.580
on the truth, just a tad.

01:05:42.020 --> 01:05:44.000
So my understanding is that a certain area

01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:45.820
was cut of power within the Capitol.

01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:47.360
And as far as the,

01:05:47.500 --> 01:05:48.720
and you correct me, I'll correct me

01:05:48.720 --> 01:05:49.540
if I'm wrong here, but.

01:05:49.660 --> 01:05:51.400
We got this from Al Jazeera, just so you know.

01:05:51.680 --> 01:05:52.720
So like this is what's being reported.

01:05:53.460 --> 01:05:53.560
I understand.

01:05:54.020 --> 01:05:54.980
I could understand you being

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credulous of if it happens.

01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:57.060
The news, you can't believe everything

01:05:57.060 --> 01:05:57.920
you read in the news,

01:05:58.140 --> 01:05:59.320
or especially in the news.

01:06:00.380 --> 01:06:02.120
So, but then again, you know,

01:06:03.180 --> 01:06:07.200
this is, so that might be with Al Jazeera

01:06:07.200 --> 01:06:09.920
saying and maybe it seems unlikely

01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:11.480
to be the totally accurate.

01:06:11.660 --> 01:06:13.480
It sounds like they probably exaggerated it a bit

01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:14.760
or you're exaggerating what they said.

01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:15.940
We don't know everything.

01:06:16.100 --> 01:06:18.300
The defense minister of Venezuela

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accused the United States of using weapons

01:06:20.660 --> 01:06:21.840
that haven't been seen before.

01:06:22.300 --> 01:06:22.320
Yeah.

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:24.160
So these, these weapons actually might be

01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:28.320
what's the, I'm trying to think

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international under international law

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actually and other agreements.

01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:34.020
So I don't know.

01:06:34.100 --> 01:06:34.860
I don't know that for sure.

01:06:35.120 --> 01:06:35.760
Crimes possible.

01:06:36.060 --> 01:06:36.780
We don't know.

01:06:36.780 --> 01:06:37.240
Yeah.

01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:38.920
So if they're not saying what they are,

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if they're not claiming that they have these weapons,

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then how could anybody know if it's against the law?

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So certain biological and other chemical

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and other types of weapons of this nature,

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I believe are now here's the other aspect of this.

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I don't know if the U.S.

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technically is part of that agreement.

01:06:57.020 --> 01:06:59.880
So it might be like illegal under international law,

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but like because the U.S.

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is not part of it, they can do it

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or I don't know something like that.

01:07:03.500 --> 01:07:06.320
But yeah, it's, this is definitely

01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:07.800
it definitely sounds like the kind of thing

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that is probably late.

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Well, they reference that there are,

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there are like sound weapons,

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like wave weapons that are used for like

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on ships and for crowd control.

01:07:17.980 --> 01:07:19.660
Like this technology kind of works.

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And so in war, that's illegal.

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I don't necessarily know what's illegal outside of that.

01:07:23.600 --> 01:07:24.160
Well, this is a set of police action.

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This was a standard war.

01:07:25.620 --> 01:07:27.820
It might be legal for police action

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within your own country, but using it in a time

01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:31.720
like, but your military using that

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against other actors of countries

01:07:33.420 --> 01:07:35.160
that you're invading or defending against.

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Why Trump is trying to get around this being an active war?

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He said he didn't send the military.

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He sent, what was it?

01:07:40.560 --> 01:07:41.000
Law enforcement.

01:07:41.380 --> 01:07:42.900
Well, isn't it like a Delta Force thing?

01:07:43.220 --> 01:07:44.560
Like a, like a DOJ.

01:07:44.780 --> 01:07:45.020
What is Delta Force?

01:07:45.140 --> 01:07:45.540
Oh, yeah.

01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:47.580
It was like a DOJ like joint operation.

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Basically like feds.

01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:50.760
I think it's undoubtable that there was a military.

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He said there was military involvement though.

01:07:53.100 --> 01:07:54.420
So I don't know how you can then

01:07:54.420 --> 01:07:56.520
disclaim liability, you know,

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or under breaking international laws for.

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No, because what they do is they

01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:02.760
create the joint task force, right?

01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:05.040
And they just put the DEA at the top of the joint.

01:08:05.040 --> 01:08:06.860
I know what they do, right?

01:08:07.080 --> 01:08:09.380
But that doesn't change the fact that like it was,

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I mean, like, this is making it right.

01:08:12.540 --> 01:08:14.100
It's just how they get around their own laws.

01:08:14.180 --> 01:08:15.720
So here's the, here's the problem, right?

01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:17.200
I understand the US does this kind of stuff

01:08:17.200 --> 01:08:18.660
all the time they get around the laws

01:08:18.660 --> 01:08:19.840
within the United States, right?

01:08:20.160 --> 01:08:22.320
But it's the problem I think with this

01:08:22.320 --> 01:08:24.840
is that the very act of invading

01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:26.700
another country is an act of war, right?

01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:28.300
So it doesn't even matter what you're claiming.

01:08:28.400 --> 01:08:29.540
You can claim this as a law enforcement,

01:08:29.780 --> 01:08:31.600
law enforcement doing it, but it doesn't matter.

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It's still an act of war.

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I'm not sure what feels the same way as me.

01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:36.480
I'm not arguing that it is an act of war.

01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:38.140
I don't think any, I'm not trying to suggest

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either of you guys are arguing against this idea or thought.

01:08:41.200 --> 01:08:43.460
Did Venezuela declare war on the US for the invasion?

01:08:45.140 --> 01:08:45.600
Why do you ask?

01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:47.460
So I'm just saying then is it like,

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I mean, then it's not a war if we're in

01:08:50.620 --> 01:08:52.360
and we're already out of the country now.

01:08:53.340 --> 01:08:55.300
But and when somebody does an act of war,

01:08:55.460 --> 01:08:57.940
I guess it doesn't matter if it's declared,

01:08:58.260 --> 01:08:59.880
it's still an act of war, right?

01:08:59.960 --> 01:09:01.760
So it's still illegal under international law,

01:09:01.820 --> 01:09:02.380
as I understand it.

01:09:03.020 --> 01:09:04.080
Who's going to enforce it?

01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:09.320
And this is the reason why the United States gets away

01:09:09.320 --> 01:09:10.860
with war crimes all the time, right?

01:09:11.420 --> 01:09:12.360
They're just bullies.

01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:13.500
There's something I was like,

01:09:13.580 --> 01:09:14.740
oh, there's a certain word I was looking for

01:09:14.740 --> 01:09:16.500
that I knew was something that was illegal

01:09:16.500 --> 01:09:18.560
for the weapons and international law.

01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:20.200
And it's indiscriminate.

01:09:20.320 --> 01:09:22.960
Like it's not targeting a certain set amount,

01:09:23.340 --> 01:09:24.440
like a biological weapon.

01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:27.220
If it's a biological weapon that flies through the air

01:09:27.220 --> 01:09:29.280
and it can kill crops and it can kill goats.

01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:31.240
Wait, so back up with your thought a little bit.

01:09:31.240 --> 01:09:33.720
You just looked at something up and you're saying

01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:35.780
that it's illegal only if it's...

01:09:35.780 --> 01:09:36.520
No, not only.

01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:37.820
This is just one of the things.

01:09:37.980 --> 01:09:39.720
This is one of the things that seems to apply

01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:42.360
to this discombobulator Trump was talking about

01:09:42.360 --> 01:09:46.720
that it would indiscriminately affect people in its range.

01:09:47.220 --> 01:09:47.580
You know what I mean?

01:09:47.780 --> 01:09:50.220
Like it's like there could be some non-military

01:09:50.220 --> 01:09:51.260
personnel sitting in their house.

01:09:51.540 --> 01:09:54.020
I'm pretty sure that like these types of weapons

01:09:54.020 --> 01:09:55.260
are somewhat targeted.

01:09:55.480 --> 01:09:58.440
I don't want to say that they're targeted.

01:09:58.780 --> 01:10:00.680
Like it could be like, okay, crowd control.

01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:01.880
That's still targeted.

01:10:02.140 --> 01:10:03.800
It's a lot of people are going to be affected,

01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:04.780
but it's still targeted.

01:10:04.900 --> 01:10:06.440
It's not the kind of thing that's going to be

01:10:07.460 --> 01:10:09.060
done from space and then all of a sudden

01:10:09.060 --> 01:10:10.940
like the entire country is going to be affected.

01:10:10.940 --> 01:10:13.600
Well, that's showing off at least most of an entire country's

01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.620
internet and electricity.

01:10:17.360 --> 01:10:18.380
Trump was quoting I was saying,

01:10:18.660 --> 01:10:20.240
no one in the country had light

01:10:20.240 --> 01:10:21.160
unless they had a candle.

01:10:21.160 --> 01:10:22.280
That's not accurate.

01:10:22.460 --> 01:10:24.800
It was certain areas of the capital that got cut off.

01:10:24.980 --> 01:10:26.460
I mean, again, this is what I read.

01:10:26.660 --> 01:10:27.000
I don't know.

01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:29.780
Look, I mean, it's the problem with everything you read

01:10:29.780 --> 01:10:30.480
and here, right?

01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:32.180
Like these people are liars.

01:10:32.300 --> 01:10:32.820
They're thieves.

01:10:33.080 --> 01:10:34.040
They're scum, right?

01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:36.240
You know, whether we're talking about

01:10:36.240 --> 01:10:38.040
Marduro or we're talking about, you know,

01:10:38.160 --> 01:10:40.020
Trump or we're talking about Joe Biden

01:10:40.020 --> 01:10:41.300
or we're talking about some other politician

01:10:41.980 --> 01:10:43.700
or some law enforcement, especially law enforcement,

01:10:43.940 --> 01:10:44.060
right?

01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:45.840
Like these people are scum.

01:10:46.120 --> 01:10:48.780
This specific weapon could be discriminant enough,

01:10:48.780 --> 01:10:52.600
but it could cause perfluous injury

01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:54.280
because these people were saying it felt

01:10:54.280 --> 01:10:55.940
like there was an explosion in their head

01:10:55.940 --> 01:10:57.460
and then they're not eyes.

01:10:57.480 --> 01:10:58.360
So there it was crippling.

01:10:58.820 --> 01:11:00.720
Yeah, I mean, the whole point of a weapon like this

01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.020
is to cripple them so they can't fight back, basically.

01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:06.160
And that's probably going to be fairly targeted

01:11:06.160 --> 01:11:08.020
in a certain area.

01:11:08.380 --> 01:11:10.760
I doubt it was beyond the compound.

01:11:11.380 --> 01:11:13.620
We don't know yet because we don't know what it is.

01:11:13.620 --> 01:11:14.040
We don't.

01:11:14.340 --> 01:11:19.640
But it's still seems unlikely that it was going to be,

01:11:20.380 --> 01:11:21.700
you know, I mean, just think about it.

01:11:21.860 --> 01:11:23.920
Think about it like radio waves, right?

01:11:24.500 --> 01:11:27.340
Like if that's the type of technology it is.

01:11:27.340 --> 01:11:29.840
Yeah, there's, I mean...

01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:30.740
But you don't know what it is.

01:11:30.860 --> 01:11:32.580
You said you didn't believe what it was at the beginning,

01:11:32.740 --> 01:11:33.020
didn't you?

01:11:33.240 --> 01:11:34.900
Didn't you not believe in the discombobulator?

01:11:35.180 --> 01:11:37.320
Or are you just saying that the claim

01:11:37.320 --> 01:11:39.040
that it didn't attack the whole country?

01:11:39.040 --> 01:11:40.520
What I said is it's unlikely.

01:11:41.060 --> 01:11:43.140
I don't believe that the weapon affected

01:11:43.140 --> 01:11:45.500
the entire country is the part that I have skeptical on.

01:11:45.620 --> 01:11:49.020
That's not, I don't think the discombobulator

01:11:49.020 --> 01:11:53.680
is who affected the 47 Venezuelans

01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:57.180
and the 37 Cubans that died trying to defend...

01:11:57.640 --> 01:11:58.480
That's what killed them.

01:11:58.480 --> 01:11:59.920
Yeah, well, I mean they were,

01:12:00.040 --> 01:12:01.820
they hit it with it and then they went in there

01:12:01.820 --> 01:12:03.140
and shot everybody still standing.

01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:04.940
Yeah, see the discombobulator,

01:12:05.080 --> 01:12:05.860
I don't think killed anyone.

01:12:05.980 --> 01:12:09.340
So the discombobulator, that's a hilarious choice word.

01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:11.840
No, no, no, this is like a science fiction terminology

01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:13.180
and I just find it hilarious.

01:12:13.460 --> 01:12:13.880
This is what Trump called it.

01:12:14.140 --> 01:12:15.360
So yeah, I don't disbelieve you.

01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:16.900
I just find it kind of humorous.

01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.960
So I'm not an expert on any of these weapons or anything.

01:12:20.060 --> 01:12:22.260
Well, how do you explain it was that it made his head hurt

01:12:22.260 --> 01:12:25.420
and then his eyes started bleeding

01:12:25.420 --> 01:12:26.680
and people started throwing up?

01:12:27.400 --> 01:12:29.160
In line with the other...

01:12:29.160 --> 01:12:32.160
This is known scientifically plausible stuff

01:12:32.160 --> 01:12:33.160
that they can do.

01:12:33.380 --> 01:12:35.080
Listen, I lived on Dogway Proving Ground

01:12:35.080 --> 01:12:37.640
and it's a bio weapons proving ground

01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:42.000
that the military uses to test their biological weapons

01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.980
and they constantly had big groups of people.

01:12:45.100 --> 01:12:45.720
I worked at the hotel.

01:12:46.040 --> 01:12:49.600
I had NASA people checking in to go and use their fields

01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:51.680
and it's the size of Rhode Island.

01:12:51.860 --> 01:12:54.580
Like they're definitely working on weapons.

01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:55.680
Biological weapons, you mean?

01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:57.040
New biological weapons, yeah.

01:12:57.120 --> 01:13:02.780
Okay, I wouldn't necessarily be terribly surprised

01:13:02.780 --> 01:13:03.940
if that was true.

01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:08.000
I mean, if you look at some of what's been revealed,

01:13:08.280 --> 01:13:09.440
like there's certainly...

01:13:09.440 --> 01:13:09.640
The gay bomb.

01:13:10.040 --> 01:13:11.440
The gay bomb was brought up.

01:13:11.580 --> 01:13:12.400
Did you ever hear about that?

01:13:12.540 --> 01:13:13.680
Yeah, I've heard of it.

01:13:14.360 --> 01:13:16.040
But no, I mean, there's certainly...

01:13:16.040 --> 01:13:16.680
I feel that it's not a conspiracy.

01:13:17.020 --> 01:13:17.640
Yeah, no, no, no.

01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:18.200
They tried it.

01:13:18.480 --> 01:13:19.500
There's like...

01:13:19.500 --> 01:13:20.760
You can actually look at research

01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:22.700
that they can't do in the United States.

01:13:23.040 --> 01:13:23.740
So they were doing...

01:13:23.740 --> 01:13:25.500
This is a funny part about the Chinese...

01:13:26.620 --> 01:13:29.400
During COVID with the China...

01:13:29.400 --> 01:13:31.140
So it came from China, right?

01:13:31.600 --> 01:13:37.500
But the research that was being funded by a U.S. university...

01:13:37.500 --> 01:13:38.400
By the NIH too.

01:13:38.620 --> 01:13:39.940
With funding from the government.

01:13:40.200 --> 01:13:42.920
So it's really funny when you hear people like Trump

01:13:42.920 --> 01:13:47.760
or other U.S. leaders criticizing China for COVID

01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:51.620
because there's a good possibility

01:13:51.620 --> 01:13:53.500
that it was literally funded by U.S.

01:13:53.500 --> 01:13:56.000
And that was set up by actually by Fauci,

01:13:56.140 --> 01:13:56.980
that whole workaround,

01:13:57.100 --> 01:13:59.500
because Obama had banned the...

01:14:00.860 --> 01:14:06.560
Publicly banned the research into gain of function

01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:09.900
on viruses like that, gain of function research.

01:14:10.440 --> 01:14:12.720
So like Fauci was still the head of the NIH

01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:15.020
and he kind of built this whole workaround

01:14:15.020 --> 01:14:17.720
to fund the coronavirus lab in China.

01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:19.540
Yeah, just because they're using a Chinese law.

01:14:19.540 --> 01:14:20.280
Yeah, yeah.

01:14:20.400 --> 01:14:22.040
Yeah, I mean, again, like I said,

01:14:22.040 --> 01:14:24.420
I don't know if it's accurate

01:14:24.420 --> 01:14:26.880
if it did in fact come from that lab or not,

01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:28.700
but it's still...

01:14:28.700 --> 01:14:29.820
Whether it did or didn't...

01:14:29.820 --> 01:14:32.640
So wait, did the coronavirus lab...

01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:33.100
I just...

01:14:33.100 --> 01:14:34.540
The thing that blows my mind is,

01:14:34.940 --> 01:14:38.880
did the novel coronavirus come from the

01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.480
gain of function research coronavirus lab

01:14:41.480 --> 01:14:43.580
or it came from, what do they say,

01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:47.600
a pangolin or a bat from a wet market across the town?

01:14:47.780 --> 01:14:49.380
And I'm not saying that as a conspiracy theory.

01:14:49.460 --> 01:14:50.380
I thought they straight up came out...

01:14:50.380 --> 01:14:50.840
Yeah, they did.

01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:53.380
They did come out with it like a year or two ago.

01:14:53.700 --> 01:14:56.440
I don't remember what the final conclusion was,

01:14:56.500 --> 01:14:58.920
but I don't necessarily know that it matters all that much.

01:14:59.180 --> 01:15:00.340
Like everything that...

01:15:00.340 --> 01:15:01.260
But it implicates America.

01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:03.310
I know it's a Chinese lab, but it was...

01:15:05.140 --> 01:15:06.840
That's the humorous part, right?

01:15:07.320 --> 01:15:09.000
Like it's like, you know,

01:15:09.220 --> 01:15:10.940
when you hear these politicians speak,

01:15:11.140 --> 01:15:12.940
you know they're lying and it's like...

01:15:12.940 --> 01:15:14.340
And actually it's really also interesting

01:15:14.340 --> 01:15:15.620
because like they also flip.

01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:16.960
Like originally they were saying

01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:18.200
not to wear masks, I think,

01:15:18.240 --> 01:15:19.700
and then they said to wear masks later.

01:15:19.700 --> 01:15:20.780
It's like, wait a minute.

01:15:20.860 --> 01:15:22.180
And then in the midst of it,

01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:25.160
after saying like the week before Fauci had said

01:15:25.160 --> 01:15:27.320
like wear four masks and wear goggles as well,

01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:28.500
then he said it didn't matter.

01:15:28.700 --> 01:15:29.760
Like the next week and it was like,

01:15:29.780 --> 01:15:31.500
okay, you guys are purposely messing with people.

01:15:31.700 --> 01:15:34.740
So I googled it just to see what they are like saying.

01:15:34.980 --> 01:15:36.840
And they said their AI overview says

01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:39.440
there's no definitive universally agreed upon answer

01:15:39.440 --> 01:15:42.120
as to whether the novel coronavirus originated from

01:15:42.120 --> 01:15:43.560
a Chinese lab leak.

01:15:43.860 --> 01:15:46.520
Both natural origin and a lab related incident

01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:48.300
remain plausible hypotheses.

01:15:48.300 --> 01:15:51.160
So my bad, it's not consensus like I thought.

01:15:51.380 --> 01:15:52.040
I thought I would like...

01:15:52.340 --> 01:15:53.900
I mean, the White House came out and said it,

01:15:53.940 --> 01:15:54.760
that could be a lie.

01:15:54.920 --> 01:15:56.600
Even the words like that they're using

01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:58.140
is like it's kind of hard to believe, right?

01:15:58.260 --> 01:16:00.340
Like there has not been universal consensus.

01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:02.380
There's never universal consensus on anything.

01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:03.240
That's a good point.

01:16:03.260 --> 01:16:06.260
So like it's almost like, okay,

01:16:06.320 --> 01:16:08.120
so you're literally manipulating something

01:16:08.120 --> 01:16:08.940
that's being manipulated.

01:16:09.240 --> 01:16:14.020
A House panel concluded that COVID-19...

01:16:14.020 --> 01:16:16.140
And this was while Biden was president.

01:16:16.360 --> 01:16:16.500
Yeah.

01:16:16.500 --> 01:16:18.740
That COVID-19 came from a lab leak,

01:16:18.860 --> 01:16:23.000
but that doesn't mean that the White House is correct.

01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.820
I mean, and that's kind of humorous too.

01:16:26.140 --> 01:16:28.960
And just in that like, if it came from a lab leak,

01:16:29.040 --> 01:16:31.460
it was the US funded research.

01:16:31.780 --> 01:16:33.060
Right. I wonder how many Americans think,

01:16:33.280 --> 01:16:35.060
oh, so the Chinese hit us with it

01:16:35.060 --> 01:16:37.080
just because it was a Chinese lab.

01:16:37.200 --> 01:16:38.380
No, the Chinese had...

01:16:38.380 --> 01:16:39.260
They locked...

01:16:39.260 --> 01:16:41.260
I remember what happened in China was horrific.

01:16:41.480 --> 01:16:43.660
How they were welding people into their houses.

01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:44.100
Yep.

01:16:44.440 --> 01:16:44.520
Yeah.

01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:46.300
I think it hit China way,

01:16:46.300 --> 01:16:48.540
worse than it hit like the West.

01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:50.500
That wouldn't make sense why they wanted to leak it there.

01:16:50.580 --> 01:16:51.840
Wow. That makes no sense.

01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:54.560
Maybe if you don't believe the numbers,

01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:56.400
but it sounds like China's population

01:16:56.400 --> 01:16:59.020
like actually did take a really big hit.

01:16:59.260 --> 01:17:01.240
You know what seems plausible

01:17:01.240 --> 01:17:03.920
is the overreaction was probably because it was...

01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:07.120
They thought it was a lab leak themselves.

01:17:08.060 --> 01:17:11.320
You know, a Chinese lab leaked something more serious.

01:17:11.700 --> 01:17:12.760
Ended up being less serious

01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:13.940
than they thought it was originally.

01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:16.480
And that's why they were overreacting.

01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:18.200
China itself.

01:17:18.440 --> 01:17:19.140
Yeah, China itself.

01:17:19.280 --> 01:17:22.000
And then in the end, after enough time on the by,

01:17:22.060 --> 01:17:24.000
we realized it wasn't as bad.

01:17:24.220 --> 01:17:27.860
It wasn't as bad as they made it sound sound.

01:17:28.340 --> 01:17:36.580
But again, I mean, it did impact people who had other health conditions, but...

01:17:36.580 --> 01:17:37.640
Yeah, like comorbidities.

01:17:37.780 --> 01:17:39.620
Yeah, comorbidities is the word.

01:17:39.960 --> 01:17:41.640
I know that in older people, I believe it.

01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:43.300
Like, old people die from the flu all the time.

01:17:43.300 --> 01:17:44.280
Right, right, right.

01:17:44.400 --> 01:17:46.180
But this is why it's an overreaction, right?

01:17:47.040 --> 01:17:50.380
So, you know, like, I don't know.

01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:51.520
I think I, I'm sorry.

01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:54.260
I know one person who died, I guess, from...

01:17:55.220 --> 01:17:56.880
Well, I didn't know well.

01:17:57.140 --> 01:17:59.220
But yeah, I used to do a show with Aria

01:17:59.220 --> 01:18:01.960
and there was another guy who wrote it in

01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:04.700
and he died from the whole COVID thing.

01:18:05.040 --> 01:18:06.140
Wow, I didn't hear about this.

01:18:06.300 --> 01:18:07.460
Yeah, but like, yeah, but like,

01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:08.760
everybody, I don't know.

01:18:08.980 --> 01:18:10.040
I don't know anybody else.

01:18:10.860 --> 01:18:12.280
He had, he had co...

01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:15.020
You know, he had, yeah, he had comorbidities.

01:18:15.400 --> 01:18:16.900
Comorbidities, I can't even say the word.

01:18:17.440 --> 01:18:17.760
Comorbidities.

01:18:18.440 --> 01:18:18.760
Comorbidities.

01:18:18.900 --> 01:18:19.200
Comorbidities.

01:18:19.280 --> 01:18:19.600
Morbidities.

01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:22.460
It's like the word morbid, it's ease.

01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:24.820
Yeah, anyway, yeah, he had, he had,

01:18:24.820 --> 01:18:27.000
he had other issues, basically, that were...

01:18:28.180 --> 01:18:28.720
Yeah, so...

01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:29.560
Is it on Aria's show?

01:18:31.320 --> 01:18:33.440
It wasn't Aria's show.

01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:35.720
It was, let's see, who was it?

01:18:35.900 --> 01:18:36.800
It wasn't Will Coley.

01:18:36.860 --> 01:18:37.480
Yeah, Will Coley.

01:18:37.620 --> 01:18:39.020
It was Will Coley, Aria, and me.

01:18:39.020 --> 01:18:39.900
Will Coley died?

01:18:40.500 --> 01:18:41.900
No, no, no, no, it wasn't Will Coley who died.

01:18:42.160 --> 01:18:44.900
It was, I mean, if you did, I didn't hear about it, but...

01:18:45.580 --> 01:18:48.340
No, it was, it was, it was this other guy.

01:18:48.580 --> 01:18:50.940
I don't, I'm trying to think if he was a lawyer or...

01:18:50.940 --> 01:18:52.700
But I think he was an older guy, basically,

01:18:53.260 --> 01:18:54.900
and he had some other health issues.

01:18:55.500 --> 01:18:57.400
Yeah, he was basically sick, and this was,

01:18:57.440 --> 01:18:58.840
this was before COVID even hit.

01:18:59.120 --> 01:19:00.400
So, anyway...

01:19:00.400 --> 01:19:01.100
Can we know another person then,

01:19:01.120 --> 01:19:03.260
because the person who did Kirby's Cue barbecue,

01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:04.960
the man, the husband?

01:19:05.280 --> 01:19:06.180
Oh, I forgot about him.

01:19:06.300 --> 01:19:08.180
He was already sick with like diabetes

01:19:08.180 --> 01:19:09.240
and all kinds of other stuff.

01:19:09.380 --> 01:19:10.320
Died from COVID?

01:19:10.740 --> 01:19:12.840
He got COVID, and then weeks later, he died.

01:19:13.140 --> 01:19:14.180
Yeah, but was it from COVID?

01:19:14.460 --> 01:19:17.940
Well, that's the thing, the people that know this situation

01:19:17.940 --> 01:19:18.580
well were like,

01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:20.940
it shouldn't have been counted as a COVID

01:19:21.640 --> 01:19:24.160
related death, because he was already so sick.

01:19:24.500 --> 01:19:26.360
Like, he ate bad his whole life.

01:19:26.500 --> 01:19:27.100
He was obese.

01:19:27.380 --> 01:19:30.040
He was in his, I think, 70s, maybe 60s,

01:19:30.080 --> 01:19:32.400
but he was already like, his doctors were already scared for him.

01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:34.300
Then he gets a flu and dies.

01:19:34.640 --> 01:19:36.400
So it's kind of like, he shouldn't be rude.

01:19:36.400 --> 01:19:38.660
All I can tell you is, I know a lot of people,

01:19:39.020 --> 01:19:41.720
and if there's only two of them that died out of...

01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:42.320
I don't even know.

01:19:42.680 --> 01:19:44.280
It's a very small percentage of the population.

01:19:44.460 --> 01:19:45.540
The risk was very low.

01:19:46.200 --> 01:19:47.180
I have two...

01:19:47.180 --> 01:19:49.320
Well, I had two elderly parents at the time,

01:19:49.320 --> 01:19:51.300
and neither of them died from COVID.

01:19:52.080 --> 01:19:52.800
I mean, I don't know.

01:19:52.980 --> 01:19:55.700
Like, it's not to say that it didn't...

01:19:55.700 --> 01:19:57.060
It definitely affected people.

01:19:57.620 --> 01:19:58.560
None of my grandparents died.

01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.300
I have grandparents in California, Missouri, and Alabama.

01:20:01.580 --> 01:20:02.520
Well, I mean, that's the thing.

01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:04.220
Like, this is why it was an overreaction.

01:20:04.220 --> 01:20:08.960
And I have like, I have four grandpas and three grandmas.

01:20:09.080 --> 01:20:11.520
I actually don't think the original...

01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:13.120
Some of the original stuff that was going on

01:20:13.120 --> 01:20:14.380
was necessarily overreaction.

01:20:14.700 --> 01:20:15.400
One grandpas died.

01:20:16.120 --> 01:20:21.520
But I think it became pretty clear in short order that it was an overreaction.

01:20:23.040 --> 01:20:25.060
But yeah, I mean, it's like, it's...

01:20:26.420 --> 01:20:26.940
Yeah.

01:20:28.400 --> 01:20:32.500
Interesting thing about New Hampshire is that we shut down for about...

01:20:32.500 --> 01:20:33.000
I want to say like,

01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:34.920
it was like two weeks or something like that, basically,

01:20:35.700 --> 01:20:39.060
which was really short in the scheme of things of pretty much everywhere.

01:20:39.320 --> 01:20:40.420
When I got here in September 2020,

01:20:40.420 --> 01:20:42.240
it was like a whole new world.

01:20:42.320 --> 01:20:44.080
Like, it was not shut down.

01:20:44.160 --> 01:20:45.540
But I do want to get into this article,

01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:46.940
so I just talk about COVID.

01:20:47.220 --> 01:20:48.460
I really don't like talking about COVID.

01:20:48.660 --> 01:20:49.560
I am so sick of COVID.

01:20:50.020 --> 01:20:51.820
It's depressing, but...

01:20:51.820 --> 01:20:52.520
Okay, weeks after...

01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:53.880
This is from The Wall Street Journal, by the way.

01:20:54.320 --> 01:20:56.100
Weeks after a U.S. military raid

01:20:56.100 --> 01:20:58.900
ended the 13-year rule of Nicholas Maduro,

01:20:59.780 --> 01:21:02.340
Venezuelans are living through a whiplash transition

01:21:02.340 --> 01:21:04.580
that feels less like a democratic dawn

01:21:04.580 --> 01:21:06.280
and more like an economic takeover.

01:21:06.700 --> 01:21:09.180
Maduro's regime is still largely in place.

01:21:09.380 --> 01:21:10.840
That's one thing that's a little odd scheme.

01:21:11.360 --> 01:21:14.980
Why just remove the head and leave the rest of the disease?

01:21:15.300 --> 01:21:17.300
It's personal vendetta is what it is.

01:21:17.460 --> 01:21:17.720
Maybe.

01:21:18.200 --> 01:21:21.080
Led by his vice president in Confidant,

01:21:21.360 --> 01:21:22.040
Delcy Rodriguez,

01:21:22.700 --> 01:21:25.560
there is little talk of holding free and fair elections.

01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:26.080
Wow.

01:21:26.780 --> 01:21:28.540
Masked intelligence agents.

01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:29.320
Wow.

01:21:29.320 --> 01:21:32.660
So they have their own masked goons running through the streets,

01:21:32.780 --> 01:21:33.000
I guess.

01:21:33.240 --> 01:21:34.760
Dressed in black and armed,

01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:37.460
still man checkpoints throughout the city in Caracas.

01:21:37.940 --> 01:21:39.640
A reminder that Maduro may be gone,

01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:41.440
but his legacy of repression lives on.

01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:44.140
At the same time, there is hope for the economy

01:21:44.140 --> 01:21:45.220
for the first time in decades,

01:21:45.360 --> 01:21:47.220
as relations with the U.S. thought.

01:21:47.400 --> 01:21:47.740
That's why.

01:21:47.900 --> 01:21:49.060
That's why they're hopeful.

01:21:49.060 --> 01:21:49.880
Yeah, they'll make money.

01:21:50.120 --> 01:21:54.620
I mean, they'll make money out of this.

01:21:54.860 --> 01:21:56.440
I mean, are they going to be self-autonomous?

01:21:56.580 --> 01:21:58.680
No, but they'll have the ability...

01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:00.960
They were like, they had a lot of the U.S. dollar before.

01:22:01.120 --> 01:22:04.940
Nobody is autonomous in the sense that you're talking about.

01:22:05.420 --> 01:22:09.580
The United States is heavily dependent on China and other countries,

01:22:09.580 --> 01:22:12.240
including Europe and, you know, South America.

01:22:12.240 --> 01:22:14.760
Well, I just mean like the Venezuelans won't be autonomous in their,

01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:18.400
in their picking a leader, right?

01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:19.300
Like they're not going to have a,

01:22:19.360 --> 01:22:21.240
they're not going to be autonomous in their democracy,

01:22:21.240 --> 01:22:23.540
but they'll have access to the world goods now.

01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:24.080
Hopefully.

01:22:24.120 --> 01:22:26.060
And they can, they might have a chance to make money.

01:22:26.240 --> 01:22:26.760
I don't know.

01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:29.400
Did you hear that Cuba is now heavily,

01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:32.240
it's not rationed?

01:22:32.440 --> 01:22:33.180
No, they're not.

01:22:33.400 --> 01:22:35.300
Trump doesn't want anyone to do...

01:22:35.300 --> 01:22:35.800
Sanctioned?

01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:36.320
Sanctioned.

01:22:36.440 --> 01:22:37.120
Heavily sanctioned?

01:22:37.300 --> 01:22:37.460
Yeah.

01:22:37.680 --> 01:22:38.660
I mean, it already was.

01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:39.120
Like new sanctions?

01:22:39.460 --> 01:22:41.460
New sanctioned though, because Trump...

01:22:41.460 --> 01:22:42.540
Are they blockading Cuba?

01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:44.920
I think there was some talk about something along those lines.

01:22:45.060 --> 01:22:45.360
I don't know.

01:22:45.420 --> 01:22:47.840
But Trump is threatening anyone that brings them supplies.

01:22:48.360 --> 01:22:48.720
It's bad.

01:22:48.980 --> 01:22:51.140
So then it is probably like a verbal blockade.

01:22:51.780 --> 01:22:54.460
I think that it sounds like they're threatening up to blockade Cuba,

01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:55.220
something like that.

01:22:56.080 --> 01:22:57.180
Sounds, sounds right.

01:22:57.840 --> 01:22:59.540
It says that at the same time,

01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:01.260
there's hope for the economy for the first time

01:23:01.260 --> 01:23:02.960
as U.S. relations thought.

01:23:03.240 --> 01:23:07.000
The Trump administration sold $500 million of Venezuelan oil

01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:11.180
and pumped $300 million of it into Venezuelan banks

01:23:11.180 --> 01:23:14.660
in a bid to help lift the country's currency, the Bolivar,

01:23:14.860 --> 01:23:16.200
in tame hyperinflation.

01:23:16.340 --> 01:23:17.800
What are they going to legalize the dollar?

01:23:18.060 --> 01:23:19.180
So people at least have that choice.

01:23:19.380 --> 01:23:19.660
I'm sorry.

01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:20.260
Wait a minute.

01:23:20.380 --> 01:23:21.000
Let me get this straight.

01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:24.800
They stole oil and then they put it,

01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:28.940
they send, they send a portion of the value of it back into Cuba.

01:23:29.220 --> 01:23:30.660
I mean, I'm sorry, not Cuba, into Venezuela.

01:23:31.080 --> 01:23:31.380
Interesting.

01:23:31.660 --> 01:23:31.760
Right.

01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:32.860
That sounds, you got it right.

01:23:33.260 --> 01:23:33.900
What, why?

01:23:34.120 --> 01:23:35.080
What would be the point of that?

01:23:35.220 --> 01:23:38.200
It's just going to be siphoned off by the Venezuelan government

01:23:38.200 --> 01:23:39.700
to go back to those...

01:23:39.700 --> 01:23:40.480
I think they're going to ask the government.

01:23:40.660 --> 01:23:41.200
That's such a good point.

01:23:41.320 --> 01:23:41.400
Right.

01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:43.640
Like, they're, like, this is a crazy thing.

01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:45.700
Like, even if it's not direct, right?

01:23:45.780 --> 01:23:47.840
Like, let's say, you know, it's,

01:23:47.940 --> 01:23:50.060
that money does end up going to prop up,

01:23:50.060 --> 01:23:50.760
like the currency.

01:23:51.080 --> 01:23:53.340
They're just going to end up taking it from somewhere else

01:23:53.340 --> 01:23:55.100
that, you know, maybe taxes would have covered

01:23:55.100 --> 01:23:55.960
or something like that, right?

01:23:56.340 --> 01:23:58.500
Like, and then that tax money now is going to go to the,

01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:00.580
to recover the, or to cover the,

01:24:00.620 --> 01:24:03.800
the costs of the oil or whatever that was stolen, right?

01:24:04.100 --> 01:24:04.320
Like...

01:24:04.320 --> 01:24:04.860
Am I wrong?

01:24:05.080 --> 01:24:08.120
Don't they, isn't using the dollar illegal

01:24:08.120 --> 01:24:09.320
in Venezuela still?

01:24:10.260 --> 01:24:12.260
I, yeah, you might be right,

01:24:12.320 --> 01:24:14.160
but I think in practice it's tolerated.

01:24:14.300 --> 01:24:15.180
Something along those lines.

01:24:15.340 --> 01:24:16.340
I know it says this whole thing

01:24:16.340 --> 01:24:17.980
where there's an official exchange rate,

01:24:17.980 --> 01:24:21.340
but the Venezuelans rely on an unofficial parallel rate

01:24:21.340 --> 01:24:22.960
to determine the value of their dollars.

01:24:23.120 --> 01:24:25.120
It's like a black market exchange rate

01:24:25.120 --> 01:24:26.680
is what you'd be referring to.

01:24:26.900 --> 01:24:28.680
And nobody would take their US dollars

01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:30.820
to the Venezuelan bank.

01:24:30.940 --> 01:24:31.160
The government's going to get their money.

01:24:31.400 --> 01:24:31.780
Yeah, yeah.

01:24:31.860 --> 01:24:32.800
To get their bowl of ours, because that wasn't it.

01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:34.180
Right, because it's, it's, it's regulated

01:24:34.180 --> 01:24:35.500
by the government in Venezuela.

01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:37.380
And the amount that you'll get is a fraction

01:24:37.380 --> 01:24:39.140
of what they're actually worth on the black market.

01:24:39.240 --> 01:24:40.020
I guess I was still wrong in a way.

01:24:40.020 --> 01:24:40.540
The real market.

01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:41.620
Because I thought it was like,

01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:44.280
oh, you are not allowed to use the dollar,

01:24:44.520 --> 01:24:45.420
but I guess you are,

01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:46.700
or maybe they just can't force it?

01:24:46.700 --> 01:24:48.840
You might be right about it being technically illegal,

01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:51.620
but like it's not enforced something.

01:24:51.700 --> 01:24:52.460
That's my understanding.

01:24:52.800 --> 01:24:54.900
Feel free to look it up and correct me if I'm wrong,

01:24:55.020 --> 01:24:55.760
but that's my,

01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:57.260
then my understanding of what the situation was

01:24:57.260 --> 01:24:57.640
in Venezuela.

01:24:57.960 --> 01:24:59.400
Yeah, I don't know exactly.

01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:00.840
We'll try to figure that out.

01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:01.360
I want to know.

01:25:01.360 --> 01:25:02.460
It's probably like it here, right?

01:25:02.660 --> 01:25:03.380
But if we haven't,

01:25:03.960 --> 01:25:05.620
it's like the same thing with crypto, right?

01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:07.560
If we want to use crypto instead of US dollars,

01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:09.680
we can kind of do that off the books.

01:25:09.980 --> 01:25:10.860
Illegal here, though.

01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:12.180
They haven't done that exactly yet,

01:25:12.220 --> 01:25:13.200
but I know what you mean, like,

01:25:13.240 --> 01:25:14.400
or use it in a way that they don't like.

01:25:14.400 --> 01:25:16.100
They certainly use coercion against you.

01:25:16.100 --> 01:25:19.080
Coming up, more stuff to talk about,

01:25:19.380 --> 01:25:21.720
a vehicle kill switch, more regulations,

01:25:22.080 --> 01:25:22.420
more free.

01:25:22.600 --> 01:25:24.320
If you're looking for work,

01:25:24.660 --> 01:25:26.720
the person you are applying to

01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:29.240
may be even more nervous than you are.

01:25:29.620 --> 01:25:30.800
And the way things are now,

01:25:30.940 --> 01:25:33.960
your references have never been more important.

01:25:34.360 --> 01:25:35.340
Here are three tips.

01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:39.220
First, know that employers are checking.

01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.520
Every hire is under the microscope these days.

01:25:43.060 --> 01:25:45.420
Second, they won't just be checking references

01:25:45.420 --> 01:25:46.480
you provide.

01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:49.080
Figure that all of your ex-employers

01:25:49.080 --> 01:25:50.960
will get a call and be asked,

01:25:51.160 --> 01:25:53.080
would you hire him or her again?

01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.980
Third, assume you will be googled.

01:25:57.420 --> 01:25:58.540
So before you apply,

01:25:58.740 --> 01:26:00.500
remove all those party animal photos

01:26:00.500 --> 01:26:01.940
from your Facebook page.

01:26:02.340 --> 01:26:04.160
Even if you're not in the job market,

01:26:04.360 --> 01:26:06.040
effective communication skills

01:26:06.040 --> 01:26:07.980
have never been more important

01:26:07.980 --> 01:26:10.080
with money and attention.

01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:11.880
So scarce now.

01:26:12.340 --> 01:26:14.140
For more tips for job seekers

01:26:14.140 --> 01:26:15.760
and getting better results

01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:17.480
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01:26:17.960 --> 01:26:20.200
hit survivalspeech.com.

01:26:20.720 --> 01:26:21.640
I'm Holland Cook.

01:26:22.540 --> 01:26:24.420
From Feature Story News in Washington,

01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:25.780
I'm Toni Waterman.

01:26:26.280 --> 01:26:28.360
According to New York Times sources,

01:26:28.700 --> 01:26:31.080
President Donald Trump is reviewing an option

01:26:31.080 --> 01:26:33.940
to send American forces into Iran

01:26:33.940 --> 01:26:35.360
to carry out raids.

01:26:35.900 --> 01:26:37.740
It's unclear if those raids

01:26:37.740 --> 01:26:39.280
would target government officials

01:26:39.280 --> 01:26:41.160
or even the Supreme Leader.

01:26:41.620 --> 01:26:43.260
The option carries new weight

01:26:43.260 --> 01:26:45.260
after U.S. forces captured

01:26:45.260 --> 01:26:47.380
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro

01:26:47.380 --> 01:26:48.800
earlier this month.

01:26:49.260 --> 01:26:51.400
A strike fleet has already been positioned

01:26:51.400 --> 01:26:53.680
near Iran and U.S. officials say

01:26:53.680 --> 01:26:56.000
the military is ready to carry out

01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:57.560
any orders from the president.

01:26:58.080 --> 01:26:59.460
Trump is demanding Iran

01:26:59.460 --> 01:27:01.000
end its nuclear program

01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:02.840
and stop killing demonstrators

01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:05.860
if it wants to avoid U.S. military action.

01:27:06.280 --> 01:27:08.380
Iran's foreign minister said on Friday

01:27:08.380 --> 01:27:10.920
that Tehran will not negotiate

01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:11.720
under threat

01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:13.260
and that its defense system

01:27:13.260 --> 01:27:15.240
will never be up for negotiation.

01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:18.300
President Trump has nominated

01:27:18.300 --> 01:27:20.780
Kevin Warsh, a banking executive,

01:27:21.080 --> 01:27:22.600
to head the U.S. Central Bank.

01:27:23.100 --> 01:27:24.840
Warsh was widely expected

01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:26.020
to secure the nod

01:27:26.020 --> 01:27:27.320
and is believed to share

01:27:27.320 --> 01:27:28.440
the president's desire

01:27:28.440 --> 01:27:30.460
to see U.S. interest rates fall

01:27:30.460 --> 01:27:31.300
more rapidly.

01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:33.760
FSN's Simon Marks reports.

01:27:35.160 --> 01:27:36.740
President Trump has been hinting

01:27:36.740 --> 01:27:37.960
for days at the possibility

01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:39.860
that Kevin Warsh is his choice

01:27:39.860 --> 01:27:41.240
to replace Jerome Powell

01:27:41.240 --> 01:27:42.740
as the chairman of the Fed.

01:27:43.120 --> 01:27:44.440
Now he's confirmed it.

01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:46.200
Over his social media account,

01:27:46.340 --> 01:27:47.660
the president said he expects

01:27:47.660 --> 01:27:49.180
Mr. Warsh to go down

01:27:49.180 --> 01:27:51.040
as one of the great Fed chairman

01:27:51.040 --> 01:27:52.260
maybe the best.

01:27:52.640 --> 01:27:54.220
The president described his selection

01:27:54.220 --> 01:27:55.900
as coming from central casting,

01:27:56.280 --> 01:27:58.140
a possible reference to Mr. Warsh's

01:27:58.140 --> 01:27:59.940
clean-cut professional appearance,

01:28:00.280 --> 01:28:01.880
but also to his background.

01:28:02.260 --> 01:28:03.440
He's a former Fed governor

01:28:03.440 --> 01:28:04.560
and a senior figure

01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:06.460
at the investment bank, Morgan Stanley.

01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:08.720
Certainly, President Trump is hoping

01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:10.080
that Mr. Warsh will prove

01:28:10.080 --> 01:28:11.420
loyal to his demands

01:28:11.420 --> 01:28:12.960
for lower interest rates,

01:28:13.300 --> 01:28:14.460
though when the president's

01:28:14.460 --> 01:28:15.600
selection faces confirmation

01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:17.200
hearings on Capitol Hill,

01:28:17.540 --> 01:28:19.040
many lawmakers will want to know

01:28:19.040 --> 01:28:20.300
whether he's willing to protect

01:28:20.300 --> 01:28:21.840
the central bank's independence

01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:23.760
or make it a political arm

01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:24.880
of the Trump administration.

01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:27.760
Former CNN anchor Don Lemon

01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:29.680
is in custody after being

01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:30.880
arrested in connection

01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:31.840
with his reporting

01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:32.840
during the recent

01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:34.520
Minneapolis ICE protests.

01:28:35.120 --> 01:28:36.940
The 59-year-old's lawyer says

01:28:36.940 --> 01:28:38.900
Mr. Lemon has done nothing wrong

01:28:38.900 --> 01:28:40.940
and insists he is protected

01:28:40.940 --> 01:28:42.040
by the First Amendment

01:28:42.040 --> 01:28:43.520
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FSN's Mitch McCann reports.

01:28:46.820 --> 01:28:48.060
The charges that the Justice

01:28:48.060 --> 01:28:49.440
Department chose to file

01:28:49.440 --> 01:28:50.820
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01:28:51.040 --> 01:28:52.240
but Don Lemon's lawyer says

01:28:52.240 --> 01:28:53.520
they will be fought vigorously

01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:54.040
in court.

01:28:54.480 --> 01:28:55.620
The former TV anchor was

01:28:55.620 --> 01:28:56.700
arrested in Los Angeles

01:28:56.700 --> 01:28:57.280
on Thursday,

01:28:57.700 --> 01:28:58.260
where he was there

01:28:58.260 --> 01:28:59.440
to cover the Grammy Awards.

01:28:59.860 --> 01:29:00.820
It's reported the arrest

01:29:00.820 --> 01:29:02.300
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01:29:07.940 --> 01:29:08.560
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Ferguson in Pennsylvania,

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you're on Free Talk Live.

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What's on your mind?

01:30:43.850 --> 01:30:44.890
Well, you know,

01:30:44.970 --> 01:30:46.830
I saw Return to Silent Hill

01:30:47.410 --> 01:30:49.370
like probably like a little over a week ago

01:30:50.870 --> 01:30:52.390
and I'm bummed out.

01:30:52.690 --> 01:30:55.530
I don't know what happened.

01:30:56.150 --> 01:30:56.430
You were so excited.

01:30:57.570 --> 01:30:59.510
Yeah, it should have been a slam dunk.

01:31:00.110 --> 01:31:01.390
Do you think that they do this

01:31:01.390 --> 01:31:02.310
to depress people?

01:31:02.410 --> 01:31:03.750
Yeah, it's a humiliation ritual.

01:31:03.990 --> 01:31:04.770
It's on purpose.

01:31:05.070 --> 01:31:05.970
But you guys always know

01:31:05.970 --> 01:31:08.930
not to see anything as of the word

01:31:08.930 --> 01:31:09.870
two in the name.

01:31:10.110 --> 01:31:10.830
Well, this is the thing.

01:31:10.990 --> 01:31:12.130
Turd was excited for this

01:31:12.130 --> 01:31:13.910
because he thought it was the

01:31:13.910 --> 01:31:15.830
end of the crappification

01:31:15.830 --> 01:31:17.050
of everything because

01:31:17.810 --> 01:31:18.290
Why?

01:31:19.010 --> 01:31:19.190
Why?

01:31:19.350 --> 01:31:19.990
Can you explain that?

01:31:20.190 --> 01:31:20.490
Why, Turd?

01:31:20.630 --> 01:31:22.010
Because I remember that being confusing me too.

01:31:22.290 --> 01:31:24.410
Well, because the source material

01:31:24.410 --> 01:31:25.230
that they used

01:31:25.230 --> 01:31:26.310
was Silent Hill 2,

01:31:26.510 --> 01:31:27.410
which is

01:31:27.410 --> 01:31:29.190
probably the single greatest

01:31:29.190 --> 01:31:30.050
story

01:31:30.050 --> 01:31:31.550
in the history of video games.

01:31:31.710 --> 01:31:32.950
James Sunderland is probably

01:31:32.950 --> 01:31:35.230
the single greatest video game character

01:31:35.650 --> 01:31:37.210
in the history of video games.

01:31:38.330 --> 01:31:39.270
And, you know,

01:31:39.450 --> 01:31:41.570
and I've seen a lot of buzz this week

01:31:41.570 --> 01:31:43.910
and a lot of people feel the same way I do.

01:31:44.010 --> 01:31:45.390
And everybody was kind of reminiscing

01:31:45.830 --> 01:31:47.270
about the mid 2000s

01:31:47.270 --> 01:31:48.090
because everybody knows

01:31:48.090 --> 01:31:49.250
that the mid 2000s

01:31:49.250 --> 01:31:49.970
was like the best.

01:31:49.970 --> 01:31:50.950
They want you

01:31:50.950 --> 01:31:52.610
in this nostalgia

01:31:53.870 --> 01:31:54.670
fuel depression.

01:31:55.010 --> 01:31:55.430
I don't know.

01:31:55.490 --> 01:31:56.870
What they did to Assassin's Creed

01:31:57.550 --> 01:31:58.690
broke my heart.

01:31:58.990 --> 01:31:59.550
That's the thing.

01:31:59.550 --> 01:32:00.390
That movie was so,

01:32:00.470 --> 01:32:01.950
but that came out like 2016.

01:32:02.390 --> 01:32:04.610
It was like the beginning of the crappification,

01:32:05.010 --> 01:32:05.370
I guess.

01:32:05.670 --> 01:32:07.770
I feel like that's just your view

01:32:07.770 --> 01:32:07.970
because you're younger.

01:32:07.970 --> 01:32:09.190
You guys gotta clarify something.

01:32:09.370 --> 01:32:09.890
These are games,

01:32:10.510 --> 01:32:10.950
like video games.

01:32:11.050 --> 01:32:11.150
Yeah.

01:32:11.410 --> 01:32:11.490
Okay.

01:32:11.610 --> 01:32:14.330
I mean, that first game came out in 2007.

01:32:14.550 --> 01:32:15.970
That's like the mid 2000s.

01:32:16.030 --> 01:32:16.690
What you're talking about

01:32:16.690 --> 01:32:17.950
is purely a game though, right?

01:32:18.030 --> 01:32:18.850
And what Turd's talking about

01:32:18.850 --> 01:32:20.610
is a game turned movie.

01:32:21.450 --> 01:32:22.770
Well, no, they turned the game

01:32:22.770 --> 01:32:24.510
I'm referencing into a movie too,

01:32:24.650 --> 01:32:25.530
but it flopped.

01:32:25.550 --> 01:32:26.150
It was terrible.

01:32:26.490 --> 01:32:27.110
But the thing is like,

01:32:27.210 --> 01:32:28.510
I think that the crappification

01:32:28.510 --> 01:32:30.250
was well on its way before 2016,

01:32:30.490 --> 01:32:32.570
but that's probably because I was 19 and,

01:32:32.630 --> 01:32:33.830
you know, 20 and 2016.

01:32:34.390 --> 01:32:36.350
Dude, this is a long timing coming,

01:32:36.570 --> 01:32:38.670
but I think it's just gotten worse and worse

01:32:38.670 --> 01:32:40.390
and especially over more recent years

01:32:40.950 --> 01:32:41.730
because the,

01:32:41.730 --> 01:32:43.350
you know, technologically speaking,

01:32:43.570 --> 01:32:45.090
it's more easily done.

01:32:45.150 --> 01:32:46.510
Somebody who's an old geezer now

01:32:46.510 --> 01:32:48.110
was complaining about the crappification

01:32:48.110 --> 01:32:49.310
of everything in the 80s.

01:32:49.410 --> 01:32:50.470
Like actually my grandma said-

01:32:50.470 --> 01:32:51.690
I'm gonna raise my hand here and say,

01:32:51.810 --> 01:32:52.430
yeah, I was.

01:32:52.650 --> 01:32:54.550
My grandma was talking about

01:32:54.550 --> 01:32:56.570
how crap classic rock music

01:32:56.570 --> 01:32:57.650
was in the 80s,

01:32:57.650 --> 01:32:59.630
and she hated my dad listening to it

01:32:59.630 --> 01:33:00.330
because she was like,

01:33:00.510 --> 01:33:01.750
why don't you listen to real music,

01:33:01.870 --> 01:33:02.490
like the Beatles?

01:33:03.110 --> 01:33:04.510
And I bet her parents-

01:33:04.510 --> 01:33:05.370
Beatles actually hate too bad.

01:33:05.370 --> 01:33:06.150
thought the Beatles was the crappification.

01:33:06.470 --> 01:33:06.990
I love the Beatles.

01:33:07.490 --> 01:33:08.750
Yeah, Beatles actually listen too bad.

01:33:09.010 --> 01:33:09.510
It's like the one,

01:33:09.750 --> 01:33:10.950
it's one of those bands that like,

01:33:11.130 --> 01:33:12.770
I even know people in the 90s

01:33:12.770 --> 01:33:14.390
were listening to, like-

01:33:14.570 --> 01:33:15.470
People still love the Beatles,

01:33:15.590 --> 01:33:17.170
but I just think that-

01:33:17.170 --> 01:33:18.270
No, I mean like young people

01:33:18.270 --> 01:33:19.090
were listening to,

01:33:19.230 --> 01:33:20.190
like not even just old people.

01:33:20.490 --> 01:33:22.130
But think about the old people

01:33:22.130 --> 01:33:23.910
in the 60s when the Beatles came out.

01:33:23.990 --> 01:33:24.610
They were probably like,

01:33:24.690 --> 01:33:25.530
this is crap.

01:33:25.630 --> 01:33:26.690
We need to be listening to

01:33:26.690 --> 01:33:27.350
whatever the hell-

01:33:27.350 --> 01:33:28.670
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

01:33:28.810 --> 01:33:29.910
Whatever the heck they listened to.

01:33:29.910 --> 01:33:30.490
Well, I hope not.

01:33:30.770 --> 01:33:32.650
But here's the thing though,

01:33:32.870 --> 01:33:33.850
in the mid-2000s,

01:33:33.910 --> 01:33:35.570
when the first Resident Evil movie came out,

01:33:35.650 --> 01:33:36.110
or I'm sorry,

01:33:36.190 --> 01:33:37.590
the first Silent Hill movie came out,

01:33:38.050 --> 01:33:39.250
people actually really liked it.

01:33:39.290 --> 01:33:40.690
And there's been a lot of buzz this week

01:33:40.690 --> 01:33:42.490
of all the people that are bummed out

01:33:42.490 --> 01:33:43.490
and they're just reminiscing

01:33:43.490 --> 01:33:45.070
about how good the first Silent Hill,

01:33:45.230 --> 01:33:45.410
and look,

01:33:46.170 --> 01:33:48.410
I don't know if it was that great of a movie,

01:33:48.530 --> 01:33:51.010
but the ending of the first Silent Hill movie

01:33:51.010 --> 01:33:52.050
was fantastic.

01:33:52.950 --> 01:33:54.530
I mean, they ended it perfectly.

01:33:55.450 --> 01:33:55.790
You know,

01:33:55.790 --> 01:33:57.890
Rose and Sharon like drove back to their house

01:33:58.430 --> 01:33:59.830
and their husband was waiting for them,

01:33:59.830 --> 01:34:01.750
but then you realize that,

01:34:03.210 --> 01:34:05.290
like in the last scene right before the credits,

01:34:05.970 --> 01:34:08.730
that Rose and Sharon had died in Silent Hill

01:34:08.730 --> 01:34:10.310
and that their souls were sort of trapped

01:34:10.310 --> 01:34:11.850
in like the other world.

01:34:12.370 --> 01:34:14.550
And it was just a beautiful haunting ending.

01:34:15.770 --> 01:34:16.850
And they all,

01:34:17.010 --> 01:34:18.050
and that's the thing,

01:34:18.850 --> 01:34:20.630
as bad as it was,

01:34:20.910 --> 01:34:21.690
they could have at least,

01:34:22.110 --> 01:34:23.510
I mean, I've got so much to say about it,

01:34:23.530 --> 01:34:24.950
but they could have at least-

01:34:24.950 --> 01:34:26.230
Scary movie, scary.

01:34:26.470 --> 01:34:26.770
Yeah.

01:34:26.770 --> 01:34:27.010
Yeah.

01:34:27.110 --> 01:34:28.250
It's like a thriller or-

01:34:28.250 --> 01:34:28.610
You know what?

01:34:28.790 --> 01:34:31.230
That's actually one of the things that it got right.

01:34:31.370 --> 01:34:32.030
Like it was,

01:34:32.710 --> 01:34:34.530
okay, like it was kind of scary.

01:34:34.690 --> 01:34:36.790
They did actually do an okay job

01:34:36.790 --> 01:34:38.850
making it kind of scary, but they-

01:34:38.850 --> 01:34:39.730
You mean this new one was-

01:34:39.730 --> 01:34:40.890
They did an okay job at that?

01:34:41.710 --> 01:34:42.510
Yeah, yeah.

01:34:43.270 --> 01:34:45.690
Yeah, but they screwed up the story so much

01:34:46.550 --> 01:34:48.290
and then they screwed up the ending.

01:34:48.430 --> 01:34:49.750
I mean, I was shocked.

01:34:50.310 --> 01:34:51.490
I mean, I couldn't even believe it.

01:34:51.590 --> 01:34:54.830
And you know, to do James Sunderland's

01:34:54.950 --> 01:34:57.230
story of guilt like that,

01:34:57.530 --> 01:34:57.790
I mean,

01:34:58.590 --> 01:35:00.690
just did a dirty and-

01:35:00.690 --> 01:35:02.450
And Silent Hill 2

01:35:03.350 --> 01:35:05.090
is a haunting,

01:35:06.870 --> 01:35:08.570
terrible tragic story

01:35:08.570 --> 01:35:11.970
about two young lovers

01:35:12.770 --> 01:35:15.130
that were separated in tragic circumstance

01:35:15.670 --> 01:35:16.610
and you know,

01:35:16.930 --> 01:35:18.350
Mary like got cancer

01:35:18.350 --> 01:35:19.790
and then died,

01:35:20.090 --> 01:35:21.190
and there were some terminal illness

01:35:21.190 --> 01:35:21.770
and then died

01:35:21.770 --> 01:35:24.370
and he couldn't live without his wife

01:35:24.370 --> 01:35:25.910
and then he goes to Silent Hill

01:35:25.910 --> 01:35:27.030
because he gets a letter from her

01:35:27.030 --> 01:35:29.330
and then at the end of the game,

01:35:29.990 --> 01:35:31.730
after you go through all this stuff

01:35:31.730 --> 01:35:34.010
and you realize that he's dealing with guilt

01:35:34.450 --> 01:35:35.890
and sexual repression

01:35:36.630 --> 01:35:38.850
and anxiety and anger

01:35:38.850 --> 01:35:39.850
and all these things

01:35:39.850 --> 01:35:40.590
and then you realize

01:35:40.590 --> 01:35:41.830
at the end that no,

01:35:41.950 --> 01:35:43.130
she didn't die from cancer,

01:35:43.270 --> 01:35:45.830
that James Sunderland murdered his wife

01:35:47.390 --> 01:35:50.310
because she was angry at him

01:35:50.310 --> 01:35:51.250
and she was yelling at him

01:35:51.250 --> 01:35:52.330
and you know,

01:35:52.390 --> 01:35:53.870
as she was getting closer and closer

01:35:53.870 --> 01:35:54.350
to dying

01:35:54.950 --> 01:35:56.850
and he couldn't look at her

01:35:56.850 --> 01:35:58.750
and she was becoming physically uglier

01:35:59.230 --> 01:36:01.750
and all she wanted him to do

01:36:01.750 --> 01:36:03.190
was for him to tell her

01:36:03.190 --> 01:36:05.110
that he was still attracted to her

01:36:05.110 --> 01:36:07.110
and that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her

01:36:07.110 --> 01:36:07.950
but he couldn't,

01:36:08.190 --> 01:36:08.530
I mean,

01:36:08.750 --> 01:36:09.270
he couldn't,

01:36:09.270 --> 01:36:09.870
as a man

01:36:10.830 --> 01:36:11.590
and so

01:36:12.070 --> 01:36:14.190
He killed her but the movie

01:36:14.190 --> 01:36:15.310
before he learned this

01:36:15.310 --> 01:36:16.530
is all like his delusions,

01:36:16.890 --> 01:36:17.410
is that what you're saying?

01:36:18.230 --> 01:36:19.430
Well, he killed her,

01:36:19.450 --> 01:36:20.650
he killed her in the video game

01:36:20.650 --> 01:36:23.050
and that's the way it should have been

01:36:23.050 --> 01:36:24.670
and then in the

01:36:24.670 --> 01:36:26.270
in the twist in the video game

01:36:26.270 --> 01:36:27.750
I think was that he killed her

01:36:27.750 --> 01:36:28.630
Yeah, the video game you get

01:36:28.630 --> 01:36:29.350
and then the movie,

01:36:29.530 --> 01:36:30.670
they screwed it up

01:36:30.670 --> 01:36:32.170
they totally screwed it up

01:36:32.170 --> 01:36:34.310
Is this gonna be like spoilers?

01:36:34.690 --> 01:36:36.250
You should at least give a spoiler alert

01:36:37.430 --> 01:36:37.870
Well,

01:36:38.030 --> 01:36:38.390
well,

01:36:38.450 --> 01:36:38.930
I mean,

01:36:39.430 --> 01:36:40.950
nobody wants to see it now

01:36:40.950 --> 01:36:42.390
because everybody online

01:36:42.390 --> 01:36:44.370
is talking about

01:36:44.370 --> 01:36:45.790
how they screwed it up so bad

01:36:45.790 --> 01:36:46.450
If I'm excited about something

01:36:46.450 --> 01:36:47.730
and then the people are saying

01:36:47.730 --> 01:36:48.710
the reviews say it's bad

01:36:48.710 --> 01:36:50.030
I'll still go see it

01:36:50.030 --> 01:36:50.430
Really?

01:36:50.890 --> 01:36:51.890
Especially if like

01:36:51.890 --> 01:36:53.430
something I'm really excited about

01:36:53.430 --> 01:36:54.410
and then people are saying

01:36:54.410 --> 01:36:55.570
Oh, the reviews say it's bad

01:36:55.570 --> 01:36:56.450
I might just break it

01:36:56.450 --> 01:36:56.610
Well,

01:36:56.610 --> 01:36:58.690
well, look, I might do that too

01:36:58.690 --> 01:36:59.450
but if

01:36:59.450 --> 01:37:00.750
but if in a game

01:37:00.750 --> 01:37:01.650
I might do it for the popcorn

01:37:01.650 --> 01:37:02.750
in a sort of game app

01:37:02.750 --> 01:37:03.330
Yeah

01:37:03.330 --> 01:37:05.130
In a situation where it's a game adaptation

01:37:06.030 --> 01:37:07.350
and then everybody's saying

01:37:07.350 --> 01:37:09.270
that they screwed up the lore so bad

01:37:09.270 --> 01:37:09.830
I mean,

01:37:09.850 --> 01:37:12.070
nobody wants to go see that

01:37:12.070 --> 01:37:13.210
if they screwed it up

01:37:13.210 --> 01:37:14.970
I still don't think you should spoil it

01:37:15.750 --> 01:37:16.490
It's too early

01:37:16.490 --> 01:37:17.310
All right, well,

01:37:17.310 --> 01:37:18.970
well, look, I won't spoil the movie

01:37:18.970 --> 01:37:19.970
if you want to go see it

01:37:19.970 --> 01:37:20.910
I don't want to go see it

01:37:20.910 --> 01:37:21.130
But um

01:37:21.130 --> 01:37:22.250
I'm just looking out for it

01:37:22.250 --> 01:37:23.610
You guys are putting me to sleep right now, so

01:37:23.610 --> 01:37:26.110
Yeah, I don't watch that many movies at all

01:37:26.110 --> 01:37:28.450
The only movie I've watched recently is SpongeBob movie

01:37:28.450 --> 01:37:30.490
I started watching The Silent Hill at some point

01:37:30.490 --> 01:37:31.810
but I don't think I ever got through the whole thing

01:37:31.810 --> 01:37:32.930
I don't like to be disturbed

01:37:32.930 --> 01:37:34.130
I don't like scary things

01:37:34.130 --> 01:37:35.930
I don't want that in my life

01:37:35.930 --> 01:37:37.870
It was too slow, I think

01:37:37.870 --> 01:37:38.550
and boring

01:37:38.550 --> 01:37:39.430
Like it was like

01:37:39.430 --> 01:37:41.070
if it maybe if the pace was a little quicker

01:37:41.070 --> 01:37:41.730
it would have been interesting

01:37:41.730 --> 01:37:42.330
but like

01:37:42.330 --> 01:37:43.010
I can

01:37:43.010 --> 01:37:43.050
Nothing?

01:37:43.590 --> 01:37:45.010
Like Crow triple seven

01:37:45.010 --> 01:37:46.630
I know earlier what I was describing

01:37:46.630 --> 01:37:47.870
might be more just like

01:37:47.870 --> 01:37:50.350
Oh, taste changing throughout the decades

01:37:50.350 --> 01:37:52.650
But one thing that the podcast

01:37:53.170 --> 01:37:55.410
Crow triple seven did a little series on

01:37:55.410 --> 01:37:56.310
within their own podcast

01:37:57.010 --> 01:37:57.450
was

01:37:58.010 --> 01:38:00.530
What they them and those are trying to impose

01:38:00.530 --> 01:38:02.230
on us each decade

01:38:02.230 --> 01:38:03.470
is very flavored

01:38:04.030 --> 01:38:05.410
Up until recently

01:38:05.410 --> 01:38:06.730
Now they want us to feel lost

01:38:06.730 --> 01:38:07.750
And I believe that

01:38:07.750 --> 01:38:09.550
I used to say it's weird how it's like

01:38:10.110 --> 01:38:12.350
You think of what did people wear in the 70s?

01:38:12.390 --> 01:38:13.510
Oh, it's so very

01:38:14.030 --> 01:38:15.650
You know what they wore in the 70s

01:38:15.650 --> 01:38:16.490
Like corduroy

01:38:17.770 --> 01:38:19.250
Disco, mini skirts, disco stuff

01:38:19.250 --> 01:38:19.870
You know all that stuff

01:38:19.870 --> 01:38:21.370
But you can't think

01:38:21.370 --> 01:38:23.290
It's not as easy to think of

01:38:23.290 --> 01:38:26.530
Oh, what did they wear in 2010?

01:38:27.390 --> 01:38:28.490
Yeah, it's true

01:38:28.490 --> 01:38:29.130
I feel like

01:38:29.130 --> 01:38:29.810
No, I do

01:38:29.810 --> 01:38:31.070
I think it's a swag t-shirt

01:38:31.070 --> 01:38:32.170
It's party rock anthem

01:38:32.170 --> 01:38:33.370
I was gonna say

01:38:33.370 --> 01:38:34.570
I think there's like

01:38:34.570 --> 01:38:36.990
Specific things for specific groups even

01:38:36.990 --> 01:38:37.270
Yeah, I can

01:38:37.270 --> 01:38:38.510
I wouldn't have wore that stuff

01:38:38.510 --> 01:38:39.630
I can probably think of like

01:38:39.630 --> 01:38:40.570
What was

01:38:40.570 --> 01:38:41.430
You know people were

01:38:41.430 --> 01:38:43.430
You know wearing maybe like in the 50s

01:38:43.430 --> 01:38:46.230
60s, 70s, 80s, 90s

01:38:46.230 --> 01:38:47.010
If you just think of like

01:38:47.010 --> 01:38:47.990
And then 2000 like

01:38:47.990 --> 01:38:49.730
After 2000 is like

01:38:49.730 --> 01:38:51.150
What do people wear nowadays like

01:38:51.150 --> 01:38:51.870
Everything random

01:38:51.870 --> 01:38:52.330
Yeah

01:38:52.330 --> 01:38:54.110
I feel like the early 2000s

01:38:54.110 --> 01:38:56.610
Were more of a continuation of just the late 90s

01:38:56.610 --> 01:38:57.090
I feel like

01:38:57.090 --> 01:38:58.050
Early 2000s

01:38:58.050 --> 01:38:58.310
Yeah

01:38:58.310 --> 01:39:00.630
Like ice tips and Guy Fieri

01:39:00.630 --> 01:39:01.130
Ask shirts

01:39:01.130 --> 01:39:02.070
Oh early 2000s

01:39:02.070 --> 01:39:02.570
Yeah early 2000s

01:39:03.410 --> 01:39:04.250
DC shoes

01:39:04.250 --> 01:39:06.150
Like everybody dressed like Rob Deerneck

01:39:06.150 --> 01:39:06.810
Cargo shorts

01:39:06.810 --> 01:39:08.310
Definitely were a thing in the 90s

01:39:08.310 --> 01:39:09.890
Like that was definitely their big uh

01:39:09.890 --> 01:39:10.230
Yeah

01:39:10.230 --> 01:39:12.270
And if you go back to like the 80s

01:39:12.270 --> 01:39:12.930
It was like tight

01:39:12.930 --> 01:39:13.850
It was like short shorts

01:39:13.850 --> 01:39:15.090
Like guys in short shorts

01:39:15.090 --> 01:39:16.610
But the main idea is that

01:39:16.610 --> 01:39:18.510
They said starting in the 90s

01:39:18.510 --> 01:39:20.850
They started wanting people to feel sad

01:39:20.850 --> 01:39:21.750
And that's when like

01:39:21.750 --> 01:39:23.350
Oh antidepressants everywhere

01:39:23.910 --> 01:39:24.770
And um

01:39:24.770 --> 01:39:25.630
Nostalgia everything

01:39:25.630 --> 01:39:27.570
All the cartoons are sad

01:39:27.570 --> 01:39:30.110
Hey Arnold can make me cry

01:39:30.110 --> 01:39:31.990
Hanold can make a grown man cry

01:39:32.510 --> 01:39:34.910
Did you ever watch Hey Arnold in the 90s?

01:39:35.190 --> 01:39:35.530
No

01:39:35.530 --> 01:39:36.450
Well you were in a kid

01:39:36.450 --> 01:39:37.050
I was probably

01:39:37.710 --> 01:39:38.410
Well I mean

01:39:38.410 --> 01:39:39.790
In 1990 I was

01:39:40.510 --> 01:39:41.070
Still a kid

01:39:41.070 --> 01:39:42.610
Six years old I think

01:39:42.610 --> 01:39:43.190
Yeah so

01:39:43.190 --> 01:39:44.430
I think it came out later

01:39:44.430 --> 01:39:45.230
I'll look it up while

01:39:45.230 --> 01:39:45.550
But

01:39:45.550 --> 01:39:46.970
Well I think the kids shows

01:39:46.970 --> 01:39:49.370
Just started introducing a lot more adult themes

01:39:49.370 --> 01:39:51.450
And some shows tried to do it

01:39:51.450 --> 01:39:52.190
In like a

01:39:52.190 --> 01:39:53.890
Yeah I was in sixth grade at that point

01:39:53.890 --> 01:39:54.890
So it was beyond me

01:39:54.890 --> 01:39:55.910
October 7th 1996

01:39:55.910 --> 01:39:58.510
And a lot of people like to point to the Jewish

01:39:59.370 --> 01:40:00.550
Themes in Hey Arnold

01:40:01.070 --> 01:40:02.310
And it happened October

01:40:02.310 --> 01:40:03.690
It premiered

01:40:03.690 --> 01:40:05.630
October 7th 1996

01:40:06.410 --> 01:40:06.890
Anyways

01:40:07.450 --> 01:40:08.210
Well isn't

01:40:08.210 --> 01:40:10.010
Isn't Arnold Jewish?

01:40:10.370 --> 01:40:11.450
No, uh Harold was

01:40:11.450 --> 01:40:12.370
Oh okay

01:40:12.370 --> 01:40:13.150
Um

01:40:13.150 --> 01:40:14.890
Anything else for us Turret

01:40:14.890 --> 01:40:16.130
I just don't really want to continue

01:40:16.130 --> 01:40:17.970
Talking about Silent Hill so specifically

01:40:19.790 --> 01:40:21.990
Um no I don't have it

01:40:21.990 --> 01:40:23.410
Well I will say uh

01:40:23.410 --> 01:40:26.330
The girls in the mid-2000s looked pretty hot

01:40:26.330 --> 01:40:27.530
They knew how to dress

01:40:28.050 --> 01:40:30.910
There's nothing better than a young sexy chica

01:40:30.910 --> 01:40:33.690
Wearing some skin tight Abercrombie and fits clothes

01:40:33.690 --> 01:40:34.610
A holster clothes

01:40:35.330 --> 01:40:35.870
They're pretty

01:40:35.870 --> 01:40:36.810
That was pretty nice

01:40:36.810 --> 01:40:37.810
And uh

01:40:37.810 --> 01:40:38.950
What are girls wearing now?

01:40:39.090 --> 01:40:40.010
I'm sorry but like

01:40:40.010 --> 01:40:41.750
A lot less skin tight stuff I'll say

01:40:41.750 --> 01:40:42.130
Okay

01:40:42.130 --> 01:40:43.490
Um especially jeans

01:40:43.490 --> 01:40:44.550
The mom jeans back

01:40:44.550 --> 01:40:46.270
Mom jeans 90 jeans are back

01:40:46.270 --> 01:40:47.110
Like really

01:40:47.110 --> 01:40:48.610
Not Janko

01:40:48.610 --> 01:40:50.490
Not all the way to Janko baggy

01:40:50.490 --> 01:40:52.190
But still pretty loose fitting

01:40:52.190 --> 01:40:53.670
Compared to what they were

01:40:53.670 --> 01:40:54.110
Insanity

01:40:54.110 --> 01:40:55.090
Where I'm just like

01:40:55.090 --> 01:40:55.790
I hate it

01:40:55.790 --> 01:40:56.190
I just

01:40:56.190 --> 01:40:56.590
I just

01:40:56.590 --> 01:40:57.730
You know I used to

01:40:57.730 --> 01:41:01.010
I loved seeing the girls in high school

01:41:01.010 --> 01:41:02.730
Walk around in their outfits

01:41:02.730 --> 01:41:05.230
They were so young and hot

01:41:05.790 --> 01:41:06.950
And now all the girls

01:41:06.950 --> 01:41:10.030
Where they're stupid idiotic things

01:41:10.030 --> 01:41:12.670
Where you can't see the silhouettes of their body

01:41:13.310 --> 01:41:15.330
This is a thing I've just recently learned about

01:41:15.330 --> 01:41:16.130
Like Billie Eilish

01:41:16.130 --> 01:41:16.450
I guess

01:41:16.450 --> 01:41:17.750
Like a Billie Eilish style

01:41:17.750 --> 01:41:18.730
Where men just wear

01:41:18.730 --> 01:41:20.010
Barrel and leg jeans

01:41:20.010 --> 01:41:20.450
I feel

01:41:20.450 --> 01:41:21.510
I feel for you man

01:41:21.510 --> 01:41:23.570
I want the short shorts back on the guys

01:41:24.130 --> 01:41:25.130
From the 80s

01:41:25.130 --> 01:41:25.870
Yeah from the 80s

01:41:26.610 --> 01:41:27.010
Yeah

01:41:27.010 --> 01:41:28.330
Yeah but um

01:41:28.330 --> 01:41:29.170
But look uh

01:41:29.170 --> 01:41:31.070
I mean I can still kind of see the gym

01:41:31.070 --> 01:41:32.290
With some of the girls

01:41:32.290 --> 01:41:33.290
Because they're all wearing the

01:41:33.290 --> 01:41:34.990
That you know that that compression

01:41:34.990 --> 01:41:36.850
It's because they all want to be influencers now

01:41:36.850 --> 01:41:38.350
I have to say though man

01:41:38.350 --> 01:41:39.590
I give them a lot of respect

01:41:39.590 --> 01:41:40.990
Just the females man

01:41:40.990 --> 01:41:42.450
The tight tight clothing man

01:41:42.450 --> 01:41:43.530
I wore it

01:41:43.530 --> 01:41:44.350
I mean when I was like

01:41:44.350 --> 01:41:46.510
Young I was in the 80s

01:41:46.510 --> 01:41:47.110
It was in the 80s

01:41:47.110 --> 01:41:48.490
And man tight clothing

01:41:48.490 --> 01:41:50.090
Man I don't know how anybody puts up with it

01:41:50.090 --> 01:41:50.570
I wear tight clothing

01:41:50.570 --> 01:41:52.050
Like really tight clothing all the time

01:41:52.050 --> 01:41:53.070
In high school middle school

01:41:53.070 --> 01:41:54.270
And then right after high school

01:41:54.270 --> 01:41:55.630
And then it's like right then I was like

01:41:56.910 --> 01:41:59.050
Oh things will look better on me

01:41:59.050 --> 01:42:00.270
If I just stop wearing them

01:42:00.270 --> 01:42:02.490
Like everything like skin tight

01:42:02.490 --> 01:42:02.810
Skin tight?

01:42:02.910 --> 01:42:03.830
It genuinely does look more like

01:42:03.830 --> 01:42:04.670
Oh I don't think it looks better

01:42:04.670 --> 01:42:05.590
I think it probably looks worse

01:42:05.590 --> 01:42:07.350
But it's gotta feel a lot better

01:42:07.350 --> 01:42:08.470
To wear looser clothing

01:42:09.130 --> 01:42:11.270
Skin tight clothing does not look good on you

01:42:11.270 --> 01:42:12.510
Unless you were like bored then

01:42:12.510 --> 01:42:14.450
And then I was in the middle school high school

01:42:14.450 --> 01:42:15.490
But you put you hard

01:42:15.490 --> 01:42:16.390
You're like

01:42:16.390 --> 01:42:17.770
But I'm more like feminine now

01:42:17.770 --> 01:42:19.310
It's like I used to weigh 80 pounds

01:42:19.310 --> 01:42:20.430
As a same height

01:42:20.430 --> 01:42:22.530
Oh I didn't know that you were uh

01:42:22.530 --> 01:42:24.010
You had to wait on you at some point

01:42:24.010 --> 01:42:25.690
Oh yeah I was so skinny

01:42:25.690 --> 01:42:26.630
I mean you're pretty

01:42:26.630 --> 01:42:27.950
Yeah you're uh

01:42:27.950 --> 01:42:29.310
I mean I'm a gay guy and I'm telling you

01:42:29.310 --> 01:42:29.970
You're pretty so

01:42:29.970 --> 01:42:30.510
Thank you

01:42:30.510 --> 01:42:32.110
But I just think that

01:42:32.590 --> 01:42:33.950
What turd likes is like

01:42:34.850 --> 01:42:36.030
It's not cute

01:42:36.030 --> 01:42:36.810
It looks

01:42:37.450 --> 01:42:39.930
It's it's definitely not just like the style change

01:42:39.930 --> 01:42:41.390
It's not classy

01:42:41.390 --> 01:42:43.210
Well so your opinion doesn't count here

01:42:43.210 --> 01:42:44.330
Because you're a woman

01:42:44.330 --> 01:42:45.350
Yeah sure

01:42:45.350 --> 01:42:46.710
We gotta ask the straight guys here

01:42:46.710 --> 01:42:47.270
Sure

01:42:47.270 --> 01:42:47.790
Look I

01:42:47.790 --> 01:42:51.070
I don't know I I come from a time of yoga pants in school

01:42:51.070 --> 01:42:52.030
All the time

01:42:52.030 --> 01:42:52.730
And like

01:42:53.230 --> 01:42:54.450
Chicks would wear just leggings

01:42:54.450 --> 01:42:55.710
All the all the non-stop

01:42:55.710 --> 01:42:56.470
Or you could sometimes see their underwear

01:42:56.470 --> 01:42:58.430
And I don't like through like yeah

01:42:58.430 --> 01:42:59.730
I understand the yoga pants

01:42:59.730 --> 01:43:00.730
Like that's just like

01:43:00.730 --> 01:43:01.130
The tight jeans

01:43:01.130 --> 01:43:03.930
I prefer yoga pants over skinny jeans

01:43:03.930 --> 01:43:04.370
To be honest

01:43:04.370 --> 01:43:05.250
But they have to be opaque

01:43:05.250 --> 01:43:07.350
But it was a yeah it was a lot of yoga pants

01:43:07.350 --> 01:43:08.090
I love yoga pants

01:43:08.090 --> 01:43:09.770
I think yoga pants

01:43:09.770 --> 01:43:10.470
Are great

01:43:10.470 --> 01:43:11.910
Especially when I can see the

01:43:12.490 --> 01:43:13.410
Outline of the pants

01:43:13.410 --> 01:43:14.790
Yeah the Han Solo look

01:43:14.790 --> 01:43:16.870
It's they all wear black leggings

01:43:16.870 --> 01:43:18.030
With the Ugg boots

01:43:18.490 --> 01:43:20.130
And then they have a black vest

01:43:20.130 --> 01:43:21.350
And then maybe a white shirt

01:43:21.350 --> 01:43:22.990
And when they're all in their little

01:43:22.990 --> 01:43:23.950
Like girlfriend groups

01:43:23.950 --> 01:43:25.610
It looks like a pack of Han Solos

01:43:25.610 --> 01:43:26.690
Running around

01:43:26.690 --> 01:43:27.810
From the spice lattes

01:43:27.810 --> 01:43:28.850
Yeah drinking lattes

01:43:28.850 --> 01:43:29.530
I get it on the

01:43:29.530 --> 01:43:30.750
I get it on the top

01:43:30.750 --> 01:43:31.870
But the bottom I just

01:43:31.870 --> 01:43:33.190
That just seems like

01:43:33.190 --> 01:43:33.850
Not attractive at all to me

01:43:33.850 --> 01:43:35.270
There's one thing about it that makes you look

01:43:35.270 --> 01:43:36.170
Like really top heavy

01:43:36.170 --> 01:43:37.130
It's like if you have any

01:43:37.670 --> 01:43:38.810
Meat to you at all

01:43:38.810 --> 01:43:39.490
At the top

01:43:39.490 --> 01:43:41.510
You're going to look like you're going to fall over

01:43:41.510 --> 01:43:42.350
And you're just

01:43:42.350 --> 01:43:43.250
Well we're just assuming

01:43:43.250 --> 01:43:44.150
We're just assuming

01:43:44.150 --> 01:43:45.450
We're just assuming that

01:43:45.450 --> 01:43:46.130
We're talking about pretty

01:43:46.130 --> 01:43:46.750
Pretty women

01:43:46.750 --> 01:43:47.290
Pretty girls

01:43:47.290 --> 01:43:47.650
Yeah

01:43:47.650 --> 01:43:48.330
Not yet

01:43:48.330 --> 01:43:48.890
Okay

01:43:49.550 --> 01:43:51.370
I think that even swimming is pretty

01:43:51.370 --> 01:43:52.870
But just doesn't have very

01:43:53.510 --> 01:43:55.070
Thicker like muscular legs

01:43:55.070 --> 01:43:56.030
Can look kind of gross

01:43:56.030 --> 01:43:57.050
See but that was what

01:43:57.050 --> 01:43:58.350
That's what was in

01:43:58.350 --> 01:44:00.490
Or I think kind of is in

01:44:00.490 --> 01:44:01.830
Still it's like the thick girl

01:44:01.830 --> 01:44:03.510
Right like the bigger thighs

01:44:03.510 --> 01:44:04.370
Bigger butt

01:44:05.410 --> 01:44:07.610
So that like those aren't the top heavy girls

01:44:07.610 --> 01:44:08.110
But even like

01:44:08.110 --> 01:44:08.990
I mean that requires

01:44:08.990 --> 01:44:09.990
Nice legs

01:44:09.990 --> 01:44:11.570
That requires a certain kink there

01:44:12.270 --> 01:44:12.770
I mean

01:44:12.770 --> 01:44:15.490
Definitely in like the 70s

01:44:15.490 --> 01:44:17.010
And sorry 90s when

01:44:17.990 --> 01:44:19.370
Rail thin was a thing

01:44:19.370 --> 01:44:20.950
You'd still want like some muscle

01:44:20.950 --> 01:44:22.130
Like some definition to your legs

01:44:22.130 --> 01:44:23.590
Like I think what people have never liked

01:44:23.590 --> 01:44:24.770
Is like straight up chicken legs

01:44:24.770 --> 01:44:25.650
Like just

01:44:25.650 --> 01:44:27.030
Yeah but now it's like

01:44:27.630 --> 01:44:30.110
It's like it's not just tone

01:44:30.110 --> 01:44:31.090
It's like

01:44:32.030 --> 01:44:32.550
Thick

01:44:32.550 --> 01:44:35.090
Like some fat on you

01:44:35.090 --> 01:44:36.310
But he's not saying like

01:44:36.310 --> 01:44:37.470
Obese or anything

01:44:37.470 --> 01:44:38.270
Not obese

01:44:38.270 --> 01:44:40.150
But compared to the two

01:44:40.150 --> 01:44:42.510
Compared to the 2000s women who were

01:44:43.070 --> 01:44:45.350
Like you know the the supermodel

01:44:46.070 --> 01:44:47.850
S96 pound rail thin

01:44:47.850 --> 01:44:48.590
Yeah, yeah, okay

01:44:48.590 --> 01:44:49.410
Abracombie and Fitch jeans

01:44:49.410 --> 01:44:50.030
Which is why

01:44:50.030 --> 01:44:52.570
Like the women who were attractive now

01:44:52.570 --> 01:44:54.190
Like Kim Kardashian could not fit

01:44:54.190 --> 01:44:55.650
In the Abracombie and Fitch jeans

01:44:55.650 --> 01:44:57.710
No, but at her biggest

01:44:57.710 --> 01:45:00.370
She isn't even in style anymore

01:45:00.370 --> 01:45:02.290
Kim Kardashian at her biggest

01:45:02.290 --> 01:45:04.310
Is still too thick for it's like

01:45:04.310 --> 01:45:06.370
It leveled out because it was so crazy

01:45:06.370 --> 01:45:07.150
You if you were

01:45:07.730 --> 01:45:08.550
Remotely feminine

01:45:09.070 --> 01:45:10.650
You were called fat

01:45:10.650 --> 01:45:13.390
On tabloids in the 90s and in the early 2000s

01:45:13.390 --> 01:45:14.290
And then it was like

01:45:14.290 --> 01:45:15.690
We're not we're taking this back

01:45:15.690 --> 01:45:18.170
So now like obesity is in and in like

01:45:18.770 --> 01:45:19.450
BBLs and like

01:45:19.450 --> 01:45:19.830
What?

01:45:20.430 --> 01:45:22.370
So freaking thick that it's like

01:45:22.370 --> 01:45:22.910
Obesity is in

01:45:22.910 --> 01:45:24.870
Yeah, do you not know who Lizzo is?

01:45:25.090 --> 01:45:26.450
But now it went back to normal

01:45:26.450 --> 01:45:27.930
It's like more normalized

01:45:27.930 --> 01:45:29.030
Yeah, I think

01:45:29.030 --> 01:45:31.090
Because I totally missed that

01:45:31.090 --> 01:45:32.330
So I was hot for a while

01:45:32.330 --> 01:45:32.690
Interesting

01:45:32.690 --> 01:45:34.250
No, you weren't

01:45:34.250 --> 01:45:34.950
Oh wait what

01:45:34.950 --> 01:45:35.970
I just thought you said obesity was in

01:45:35.970 --> 01:45:37.550
Only the fat chicks were hot

01:45:37.550 --> 01:45:37.830
Oh yeah

01:45:37.830 --> 01:45:40.190
The fat men you were still the bottom of them

01:45:40.190 --> 01:45:41.370
You were still scum dog

01:45:41.890 --> 01:45:42.850
Don't get it twisted

01:45:42.850 --> 01:45:44.090
We were still

01:45:44.090 --> 01:45:44.650
We were still

01:45:44.650 --> 01:45:45.290
Hey, I don't care

01:45:45.290 --> 01:45:47.370
I got myself a you know a significant other

01:45:47.370 --> 01:45:48.390
So I'm off

01:45:48.390 --> 01:45:49.110
No, you were not

01:45:49.110 --> 01:45:50.110
I'm off the playing field anyway

01:45:50.590 --> 01:45:52.010
We do have a caller in the line

01:45:52.010 --> 01:45:53.650
So Tom from New Hampshire

01:45:53.650 --> 01:45:55.010
You're on Freetalk Live

01:45:55.010 --> 01:45:55.790
What's on your mind?

01:45:56.190 --> 01:45:56.710
Good evening

01:45:56.710 --> 01:45:59.550
On October 7th, 2003

01:46:00.010 --> 01:46:02.110
U.S. Senator Judd Gregg's wife

01:46:02.110 --> 01:46:04.410
Was abducted at knife point

01:46:04.410 --> 01:46:07.650
Out of their home away from home in Virginia

01:46:08.890 --> 01:46:11.670
And there was an investigation

01:46:11.670 --> 01:46:13.190
Of course the police responded

01:46:13.770 --> 01:46:15.290
They eventually caught the suspect

01:46:15.290 --> 01:46:17.210
But the U.S. Capitol police

01:46:17.210 --> 01:46:21.150
Also briefly investigated the attack

01:46:21.790 --> 01:46:25.070
The reason being that their job is

01:46:25.070 --> 01:46:26.170
The uh

01:46:26.170 --> 01:46:27.490
Oh and they were from New Hampshire

01:46:27.490 --> 01:46:28.210
Wow okay

01:46:28.210 --> 01:46:29.430
So Kathleen Gregg

01:46:29.430 --> 01:46:31.550
The wife of the U.S. Senator Judd Gregg

01:46:31.550 --> 01:46:33.610
From New Hampshire was abducted at knife point

01:46:33.610 --> 01:46:36.490
From her home in McLean, Virginia on October 7th

01:46:36.490 --> 01:46:37.350
Oh I have never heard of this

01:46:38.030 --> 01:46:38.550
Well

01:46:38.550 --> 01:46:39.270
So what's the point?

01:46:39.430 --> 01:46:40.370
Where are we going with this?

01:46:40.830 --> 01:46:43.190
The U.S. Capitol police are investigating

01:46:43.190 --> 01:46:44.970
In the case it was a situation

01:46:44.970 --> 01:46:47.530
Where somebody was trying to retaliate

01:46:47.530 --> 01:46:48.530
Or intimidate

01:46:48.530 --> 01:46:51.050
Or threaten or harass

01:46:51.050 --> 01:46:53.010
U.S. Senator Judd Gregg

01:46:53.010 --> 01:46:55.390
Because of the performance of his duties

01:46:55.390 --> 01:46:57.430
Because they don't like the way he voted

01:46:58.090 --> 01:46:58.790
Okay now

01:46:58.790 --> 01:47:00.630
The reason I'm bringing that up

01:47:00.630 --> 01:47:01.970
Is because see that

01:47:01.970 --> 01:47:03.650
The crime happened in Virginia

01:47:03.650 --> 01:47:05.650
Far away from the U.S. Capitol

01:47:05.650 --> 01:47:08.170
But the U.S. Capitol police still have

01:47:08.170 --> 01:47:09.930
Jurisdiction over these crimes

01:47:09.930 --> 01:47:11.830
I think it's anywhere in the country

01:47:11.830 --> 01:47:13.670
And I'm just kind of wondering

01:47:13.670 --> 01:47:14.450
Wait what?

01:47:14.750 --> 01:47:16.450
When, yeah because

01:47:16.450 --> 01:47:20.110
Their job is to prosecute people

01:47:20.110 --> 01:47:21.550
Who aren't trying to intimidate

01:47:21.550 --> 01:47:23.070
Or harass threaten or whatever

01:47:23.690 --> 01:47:26.490
Whatever it is against members of Congress

01:47:27.010 --> 01:47:29.150
Those crimes against members of Congress

01:47:29.150 --> 01:47:31.830
Can be prosecuted by the U.S. Capitol police

01:47:31.970 --> 01:47:34.770
I don't necessarily know that means they have jurisdiction

01:47:34.770 --> 01:47:35.870
Well they claim

01:47:35.870 --> 01:47:38.350
Well I guess you can claim jurisdiction over

01:47:38.350 --> 01:47:40.050
A foreign entity

01:47:40.050 --> 01:47:41.230
Yeah I don't know

01:47:41.230 --> 01:47:42.390
All right but go on

01:47:43.490 --> 01:47:46.050
Okay when members of Congress go

01:47:46.050 --> 01:47:49.230
To investigate Alligator Alley

01:47:49.230 --> 01:47:51.470
And the ice goons chase them away

01:47:51.470 --> 01:47:52.910
And say no you can't come in there

01:47:52.910 --> 01:47:54.870
Aren't they committing a crime

01:47:54.870 --> 01:47:56.290
Against those members of Congress

01:47:56.290 --> 01:47:59.230
By saying no you can't do your official duties

01:47:59.230 --> 01:48:01.250
Of making sure that

01:48:01.250 --> 01:48:05.190
The ice facility is up to respect

01:48:05.730 --> 01:48:08.970
Okay and could the members of Congress

01:48:08.970 --> 01:48:10.790
Get the U.S. Capitol police

01:48:10.790 --> 01:48:13.710
Go down there and arrest the guy at the gate

01:48:13.710 --> 01:48:14.670
Who won't let them in

01:48:16.870 --> 01:48:19.110
Wow so it looks like I found this article

01:48:19.110 --> 01:48:21.690
From 2003 where it says that they expanded

01:48:23.190 --> 01:48:24.690
Their interdiction program

01:48:24.690 --> 01:48:25.810
Wait expanded

01:48:26.790 --> 01:48:27.810
What did they expand?

01:48:27.950 --> 01:48:28.850
The expansion of the Capitol

01:48:28.850 --> 01:48:32.950
They expanded their jurisdiction for this

01:48:32.950 --> 01:48:33.830
It looks like

01:48:33.830 --> 01:48:35.730
Is that how you understand it?

01:48:36.190 --> 01:48:38.790
Yeah so I don't know if they can

01:48:39.510 --> 01:48:40.330
Go out there

01:48:40.330 --> 01:48:41.850
If they investigate

01:48:42.310 --> 01:48:43.810
They get their official report

01:48:43.810 --> 01:48:46.010
If Trump might just prosecute

01:48:46.590 --> 01:48:48.110
Might just pardon them anyway

01:48:48.110 --> 01:48:50.030
But now that you've got the investigation

01:48:50.030 --> 01:48:50.570
And everything

01:48:50.570 --> 01:48:52.410
The other thing that

01:48:52.970 --> 01:48:54.730
Even if Trump pardons them

01:48:54.730 --> 01:48:56.050
Congress can impeach

01:48:56.610 --> 01:48:58.570
And remove from office

01:48:58.850 --> 01:49:01.310
The ice goons that chased away

01:49:01.310 --> 01:49:02.350
Members of Congress

01:49:02.350 --> 01:49:04.470
Yeah but it's not the police who would bring charges

01:49:04.470 --> 01:49:06.530
It'd have to be a district attorney

01:49:06.530 --> 01:49:09.730
Like the courts would have to like charge

01:49:10.210 --> 01:49:12.490
The Capitol police could arrest the ICE agents

01:49:12.490 --> 01:49:13.690
But it would be up to the courts

01:49:13.690 --> 01:49:15.390
To like actually charge them with the crime

01:49:15.890 --> 01:49:17.490
And like take that move that forward

01:49:17.490 --> 01:49:18.830
Or at least prosecute for sure

01:49:18.830 --> 01:49:20.750
Or they had to like prosecute them

01:49:21.190 --> 01:49:23.770
Yeah and Trump would probably fire the prosecutor

01:49:23.770 --> 01:49:25.130
That does that too

01:49:25.130 --> 01:49:26.570
Because it's a federal prosecutor

01:49:26.570 --> 01:49:30.110
So as opposed to just simply pardoning

01:49:30.110 --> 01:49:31.410
The ice goons

01:49:31.410 --> 01:49:33.370
Which I wouldn't put it past them either

01:49:33.370 --> 01:49:36.350
But Congress could impeach those ice goons

01:49:36.350 --> 01:49:38.930
And maybe they'd feel they're better off

01:49:38.930 --> 01:49:41.410
Just letting the members of Congress go in

01:49:41.890 --> 01:49:44.330
I believe I read about one situation

01:49:44.330 --> 01:49:46.890
Where Democrats and Republicans went in together

01:49:46.890 --> 01:49:49.050
And they came out with very different stories

01:49:49.050 --> 01:49:51.770
So you never know what to think

01:49:53.510 --> 01:49:54.110
Okay

01:49:54.110 --> 01:49:55.130
Yeah they're never honest

01:49:55.130 --> 01:49:56.370
I mean why would they

01:49:56.570 --> 01:49:59.050
Actually that makes sense to a point

01:49:59.050 --> 01:50:01.870
Like if they're just going to go in and lie about it anyways

01:50:02.690 --> 01:50:04.290
Who even cares if they're going in

01:50:04.290 --> 01:50:05.830
Because they're just not going to tell us the truth

01:50:05.830 --> 01:50:07.630
About what they saw to begin with

01:50:07.630 --> 01:50:09.590
Well some of them are telling the truth

01:50:09.590 --> 01:50:10.610
And the other ones are lying

01:50:10.610 --> 01:50:11.770
And we don't really know

01:50:12.470 --> 01:50:14.070
Some of them are telling it's horrible inside

01:50:14.070 --> 01:50:14.910
And some of them are saying

01:50:14.910 --> 01:50:16.210
Oh no everything was fine inside

01:50:16.210 --> 01:50:17.510
I don't know what they're talking about

01:50:18.430 --> 01:50:19.870
You know the Republicans are saying

01:50:19.870 --> 01:50:21.870
That Trump is doing a wonderful job

01:50:21.870 --> 01:50:24.450
And ICE is doing everything up to spec

01:50:24.450 --> 01:50:26.630
And the Democrats are saying no no no

01:50:26.630 --> 01:50:29.070
That's a horrible quality condition

01:50:29.070 --> 01:50:33.250
That people being underfed and less shackled

01:50:33.250 --> 01:50:34.770
The days and the time stop

01:50:34.770 --> 01:50:36.830
Or whatever they're saying it is

01:50:36.830 --> 01:50:41.770
So if they impede the members of Congress

01:50:41.770 --> 01:50:43.230
From performing their official duties

01:50:43.230 --> 01:50:46.350
Can the US Capitol Police get involved

01:50:46.350 --> 01:50:48.850
And arrest the ICE goons

01:50:48.850 --> 01:50:51.290
That won't let them into the facility

01:50:51.290 --> 01:50:52.510
Well I don't give them any ideas

01:50:52.510 --> 01:50:54.890
Interesting this also happened October 7th

01:50:54.890 --> 01:50:56.490
As I get brought up so much

01:50:56.490 --> 01:50:58.370
Yeah I don't know a whole lot about it

01:50:58.370 --> 01:51:00.050
But my interesting is they do

01:51:00.050 --> 01:51:02.210
The members of Congress do have the power to

01:51:02.890 --> 01:51:03.590
What is it?

01:51:03.850 --> 01:51:04.910
Investigate those facilities

01:51:04.910 --> 01:51:06.190
So they should be letting them in

01:51:08.010 --> 01:51:08.970
Well interesting

01:51:09.990 --> 01:51:11.730
Wait who should be letting who in?

01:51:12.330 --> 01:51:15.850
I believe the facilities that are like

01:51:15.850 --> 01:51:20.930
I think I'm like prisons and or detention centers

01:51:20.930 --> 01:51:24.690
I believe the members of Congress have the authority

01:51:24.690 --> 01:51:27.810
To go in and like investigate them

01:51:27.810 --> 01:51:29.550
Like at basically any point they want

01:51:30.470 --> 01:51:31.670
On an ounce and everything

01:51:33.030 --> 01:51:36.890
Okay well I don't like that idea

01:51:36.890 --> 01:51:39.170
But you're not agreeing with it right?

01:51:40.630 --> 01:51:42.850
I don't know if I'm agreeing with anything he said

01:51:42.850 --> 01:51:44.670
I'm but as far as like

01:51:44.670 --> 01:51:48.010
Them having the Congress Critters having the power to go in

01:51:48.010 --> 01:51:50.210
I mean I don't know why that would be an issue

01:51:50.210 --> 01:51:52.090
But should the Capitol Police be involved?

01:51:52.810 --> 01:51:53.650
I think was his question

01:51:54.270 --> 01:51:55.850
Or can they get involved?

01:51:56.170 --> 01:51:58.270
Just because of you know it's like almost like saying

01:51:58.270 --> 01:52:00.170
Oh national security now we can do it

01:52:00.170 --> 01:52:03.070
I mean the FBI has jurisdiction nationally

01:52:03.070 --> 01:52:06.990
So I'm not sure what necessarily difference this necessarily makes

01:52:06.990 --> 01:52:09.490
But they said that it was the first expanded in 1992

01:52:09.970 --> 01:52:11.030
I kind of clicked off that

01:52:11.030 --> 01:52:12.190
Well I think the reason to get

01:52:12.190 --> 01:52:13.710
I mean look I don't think the FBI

01:52:13.710 --> 01:52:14.670
Should be allowed in New Hampshire

01:52:14.670 --> 01:52:16.390
But I guess

01:52:16.390 --> 01:52:17.890
Exactly that's what I kind of asked

01:52:17.890 --> 01:52:19.070
Yeah right right right right

01:52:19.070 --> 01:52:21.390
You're just saying you could see them making that claim right?

01:52:21.910 --> 01:52:22.150
Yeah

01:52:22.830 --> 01:52:23.230
Um

01:52:23.230 --> 01:52:25.070
And I just don't know what difference it makes

01:52:25.070 --> 01:52:27.110
In terms of whether the FBI investigates it

01:52:27.110 --> 01:52:29.170
Or the Capitol Police investigate it

01:52:29.170 --> 01:52:31.170
Well I think the idea is the Capitol Police

01:52:31.170 --> 01:52:33.170
Is not under the thumb of Donald Trump

01:52:33.170 --> 01:52:36.090
And they could circumvent his authorities

01:52:36.090 --> 01:52:37.870
And I don't know I don't know what

01:52:37.870 --> 01:52:39.010
I don't know what uh

01:52:39.430 --> 01:52:40.930
I don't know what the um

01:52:40.930 --> 01:52:43.550
The president or has or doesn't have as far as like

01:52:44.670 --> 01:52:46.210
Authority in this particular case

01:52:46.630 --> 01:52:47.510
Yeah I don't either

01:52:47.510 --> 01:52:48.590
I mean the DOJ

01:52:48.590 --> 01:52:49.550
This is what

01:52:49.550 --> 01:52:51.030
The DOJ is definitely under the president

01:52:51.030 --> 01:52:52.090
So yeah that's what I'm saying

01:52:52.090 --> 01:52:52.670
You need a prosecutor

01:52:52.670 --> 01:52:54.650
If the Capitol Police is not

01:52:55.530 --> 01:52:56.950
That's news to me so

01:52:57.630 --> 01:52:59.130
Um and if they have the same jurisdiction

01:52:59.130 --> 01:53:00.790
To be basically as the FBI that

01:53:00.790 --> 01:53:01.710
Well law enforcement

01:53:01.710 --> 01:53:02.170
Interesting

01:53:02.170 --> 01:53:03.870
Right like it like I was saying

01:53:03.870 --> 01:53:07.250
Like all they do all all a cop really can do is

01:53:07.250 --> 01:53:09.290
Suspect you of a crime

01:53:09.290 --> 01:53:12.070
And then they can hold you on suspicion of a crime

01:53:12.070 --> 01:53:14.450
And then it's up to the attorney to like

01:53:14.450 --> 01:53:15.830
Prosecute the case

01:53:15.830 --> 01:53:16.870
Yeah like there's

01:53:16.870 --> 01:53:17.730
Take it to the courts

01:53:17.730 --> 01:53:18.630
I mean there's

01:53:18.630 --> 01:53:20.270
Not saying like that's true

01:53:20.270 --> 01:53:21.310
That's right or not

01:53:21.310 --> 01:53:22.330
You're not like wrong

01:53:22.330 --> 01:53:24.250
But there's definitely um

01:53:24.250 --> 01:53:25.390
I think the way to phrase it is

01:53:25.390 --> 01:53:26.130
There is

01:53:29.790 --> 01:53:30.930
What's the word like uh

01:53:30.930 --> 01:53:32.510
Like like like during Nazi Germany

01:53:32.510 --> 01:53:34.790
Uh when they went after people like

01:53:34.790 --> 01:53:36.930
You know soldiers and things and people who helped

01:53:36.930 --> 01:53:37.490
Hitler

01:53:37.490 --> 01:53:39.350
You know they had culpability basically

01:53:39.350 --> 01:53:40.770
And I think it's kind of the same situation

01:53:40.770 --> 01:53:41.830
The prosecutors have culpability

01:53:41.830 --> 01:53:42.970
Just like the law enforcement agents

01:53:42.970 --> 01:53:44.430
Well one thing I want to say is

01:53:44.430 --> 01:53:45.630
Don't give them any ideas

01:53:46.190 --> 01:53:49.190
It's like for more excuses to go after people and you know

01:53:49.190 --> 01:53:50.530
Expand powers

01:53:50.530 --> 01:53:51.890
I don't think I need to give them any ideas

01:53:51.890 --> 01:53:53.130
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Our number three is next

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After the news here on the Liberty Radio Network

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At lrn.fm

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From feature story news in Washington

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I'm Tony Waterman

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According to New York Times sources

01:56:22.430 --> 01:56:25.170
President Donald Trump is reviewing an option

01:56:25.170 --> 01:56:27.990
To send American forces into Iran

01:56:27.990 --> 01:56:29.450
To carry out raids

01:56:29.450 --> 01:56:32.390
It's unclear if those raids would target

01:56:32.390 --> 01:56:35.250
Government officials or even the supreme leader

01:56:35.250 --> 01:56:37.330
The option carries new weight

01:56:37.330 --> 01:56:40.490
After U.S. forces captured Venezuelan president

01:56:40.490 --> 01:56:42.870
Nicolas Maduro earlier this month

01:56:42.870 --> 01:56:46.410
A strike fleet has already been positioned near Iran

01:56:46.410 --> 01:56:48.370
And U.S. officials say the military

01:56:48.370 --> 01:56:51.650
Is ready to carry out any orders from the president

01:56:51.650 --> 01:56:55.050
Trump is demanding Iran end its nuclear program

01:56:55.050 --> 01:56:56.910
And stop killing demonstrators

01:56:56.910 --> 01:56:59.950
If it wants to avoid U.S. military action

01:56:59.950 --> 01:57:02.450
Iran's foreign minister said on Friday

01:57:02.450 --> 01:57:05.770
That Tehran will not negotiate under threat

01:57:05.770 --> 01:57:08.290
And that its defense system will never be up

01:57:08.290 --> 01:57:09.210
For negotiation

01:57:10.410 --> 01:57:13.350
President Trump has nominated Kevin Warsh

01:57:13.350 --> 01:57:16.710
A banking executive to head the U.S. central bank

01:57:16.710 --> 01:57:20.090
Warsh was widely expected to secure the nod

01:57:20.090 --> 01:57:22.490
And is believed to share the president's desire

01:57:22.490 --> 01:57:25.410
To see U.S. interest rates fall more rapidly

01:57:25.410 --> 01:57:27.910
FSN's Simon Marks reports

01:57:29.170 --> 01:57:31.270
President Trump has been hinting for days

01:57:31.270 --> 01:57:33.130
At the possibility that Kevin Warsh

01:57:33.130 --> 01:57:35.290
Is his choice to replace Jerome Powell

01:57:35.290 --> 01:57:36.830
As the chairman of the Fed

01:57:36.830 --> 01:57:38.510
Now he's confirmed it

01:57:38.510 --> 01:57:40.270
Over his social media account

01:57:40.270 --> 01:57:42.390
The president said he expects Mr. Warsh

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To go down as one of the great Fed chairman

01:57:45.130 --> 01:57:46.330
Maybe the best

01:57:46.330 --> 01:57:48.290
The president described his selection

01:57:48.290 --> 01:57:49.970
As coming from central casting

01:57:49.970 --> 01:57:52.210
A possible reference to Mr. Warsh's

01:57:52.210 --> 01:57:54.010
Clean cut professional appearance

01:57:54.010 --> 01:57:55.930
But also to his background

01:57:55.930 --> 01:57:57.510
He's a former Fed governor

01:57:57.510 --> 01:57:59.690
And a senior figure at the investment bank

01:57:59.690 --> 01:58:00.570
Morgan Stanley

01:58:00.570 --> 01:58:02.790
Certainly President Trump is hoping

01:58:02.790 --> 01:58:04.490
That Mr. Warsh will prove loyal

01:58:04.490 --> 01:58:07.010
To his demands for lower interest rates

01:58:07.010 --> 01:58:08.910
Though when the president's selection

01:58:08.910 --> 01:58:11.210
Faces confirmation hearings on Capitol Hill

01:58:11.210 --> 01:58:13.110
Many lawmakers will want to know

01:58:13.110 --> 01:58:14.330
Whether he's willing to protect

01:58:14.330 --> 01:58:15.910
The central bank's independence

01:58:15.910 --> 01:58:17.830
Or make it a political arm

01:58:17.830 --> 01:58:18.930
Of the Trump administration

01:58:19.650 --> 01:58:21.830
Former CNN anchor Don Lemon

01:58:21.830 --> 01:58:24.310
Is in custody after being arrested

01:58:24.310 --> 01:58:25.890
In connection with his reporting

01:58:25.890 --> 01:58:28.610
During the recent Minneapolis ICE protests

01:58:29.010 --> 01:58:30.990
The 59-year-old's lawyer says

01:58:30.990 --> 01:58:32.950
Mr. Lemon has done nothing wrong

01:58:32.950 --> 01:58:35.010
And insists he is protected

01:58:35.010 --> 01:58:37.550
By the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

01:58:38.330 --> 01:58:40.090
FSN's Mitch McCann reports

01:58:40.780 --> 01:58:42.590
The charges that the Justice Department

01:58:42.590 --> 01:58:44.890
Chose to file were not immediately clear

01:58:44.890 --> 01:58:46.310
But Don Lemon's lawyer says

01:58:46.310 --> 01:58:48.110
They will be fought vigorously in court

01:58:48.110 --> 01:58:50.010
The former TV anchor was arrested

01:58:50.010 --> 01:58:51.330
In Los Angeles on Thursday

01:58:51.330 --> 01:58:53.570
Where he was there to cover the Grammy Awards

01:58:53.570 --> 01:58:55.510
It's reported the arrest is in relation

01:58:55.510 --> 01:58:57.670
To Mr. Lemon's coverage of an ICE protest

01:58:57.670 --> 01:58:59.890
That took place inside a Minneapolis church

01:58:59.890 --> 01:59:00.690
In recent weeks

01:59:00.690 --> 01:59:02.790
It's reported that following the protest

01:59:02.790 --> 01:59:05.530
A federal judge initially declined to sign off

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On an arrest warrant for Mr. Lemon

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Former colleagues and lawmakers

01:59:08.690 --> 01:59:10.230
Have defended the broadcaster

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From Bureau's Worldwide

01:59:12.790 --> 01:59:14.790
This is FSN

01:59:14.790 --> 01:59:17.330
With FSN spotlight, I'm Simon Marks

01:59:17.330 --> 01:59:19.510
Ending the week with a very sober warning

01:59:19.510 --> 01:59:21.070
About the rapidity of developments

01:59:21.070 --> 01:59:23.410
In the field of artificial intelligence

01:59:23.410 --> 01:59:25.190
A new poll this week showed

01:59:25.190 --> 01:59:27.270
That more than a quarter of all workers

01:59:27.270 --> 01:59:29.890
In Britain fear they will lose their jobs

01:59:29.890 --> 01:59:32.030
To AI in the next five years

01:59:32.030 --> 01:59:33.230
And this week alone

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Amazon announced a further 16,000 job losses

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Mainly in America

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Because of AI

01:59:40.110 --> 01:59:41.870
This was the week when Jeffrey Hinton

01:59:41.870 --> 01:59:43.890
The so-called godfather of AI

01:59:43.890 --> 01:59:46.670
Predicted that virtually every single job

01:59:46.670 --> 01:59:48.790
On the planet is going to be replaced

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By the industry that he now regrets

01:59:50.910 --> 01:59:51.810
Having sparked

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Already we're seeing starting jobs

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In many professions like lawyers

01:59:56.210 --> 01:59:58.030
Being taken over by AI

01:59:58.670 --> 01:59:59.750
Most experts believe

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That sometime within the next 20 years

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Quite possibly within 10 years

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We'll have super intelligence

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Something better than us

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And that we'll be able to do any new job

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That's created

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It'll be all of them

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The big tech companies are thinking

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If we can be the first to get really good AI

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Human level AI

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We can make a lot of money

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Selling AI to companies

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So that they can replace workers

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As far as I can see

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That's the only place

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They can get their huge investments back

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They're not thinking

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About the social consequences of that

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Better assuming somehow the state will take care of it

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But I don't see how it can

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What does all that mean for youngsters

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Trying to position themselves for the future?

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Jeffrey Hinton's got ideas for them

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And you'll hear those on Monday

02:00:42.910 --> 02:00:45.150
And a recap of today's headlines

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The New York Times is reporting

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That President Trump is reviewing an option

02:00:49.770 --> 02:00:52.030
To send U.S. troops into Iran

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For targeted raids

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President Trump has nominated banking exec

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Kevin Warsh to head the U.S. Central Bank

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Like Trump, Warsh says interest rates should be lower

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Former CNN anchor Don Lemon

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Has been arrested in connection with his reporting

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During Minneapolis ICE protests

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That's feature story news Tony Waterman reporting

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Emergency crews at the scene of the merciful accident

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Described the sea of fast food bags, candy bar wrappers

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And losing lottery tickets surrounding the crash site

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As utterly tragic

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Adding that the scorched corpses inside the bus

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Were quote only slightly more lifeless

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Than before the deadly accident

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Evidence suggests that most of the victims

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Suffer during the crash

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And for many years before they even boarded the bus

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Al Qaeda is refusing to carry out

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Any further terrorist attacks

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Hey, Mr. Penguin

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And we already have a caller in the line

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So let's go to the phones

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We have Sarah in New Mexico

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Sarah, you're on Free Talk Live

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What's on your mind?

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Yes, I think we want to bring up that

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Pension is a communist program

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And our pensions have been going away

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Okay, the idea of a pension period?

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No, but the idea of a government pension

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See what I'm saying?

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Because it's like

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It's like the government guarantees you'll have an income for life

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Even if you just work for our job for like 10 years

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Don't you think that's communist, Mr. Penguin?

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Well, I'm talking about that

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When I was like nine years old

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Back then, everybody got a pension from a private company

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And it was $10 that you put in

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And you got a dollar back

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Then you put your own money in

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It was, I mean, it was common

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It wasn't universal, but yeah

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But you put your own money in according to Sarah

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So what is that?

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Is it a retirement fund?

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I think, sorry, you're describing a 401k actually

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As far as putting $1 in and getting $1 out

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From the company, basically

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But pensions were usually

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And still are to some degree

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To whatever degree they exist

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Not many companies offer them anymore

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But they're usually funded by the companies that you work for

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So it's a benefit of the job

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So they basically, you know

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They put in money and set aside for your retirement

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And then they pay you out until you death

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A certain amount until you die, basically

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Whereas a 401k, you get a set amount from your employer

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And often it's a 401k matching

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Which means that you put in something

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And then they put in something

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But nonetheless, that amount can eventually run out though

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Potentially

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So it's

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Whereas the pension in theory doesn't run out

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So they pay you until you die

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Whereas a 401k, you could end up running out of money

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If there's not enough money in your 401k

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So this is a communist program

02:05:40.740 --> 02:05:44.020
And you know, they stole all this money

02:05:44.020 --> 02:05:45.560
And nobody cares about it

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Yeah, but it's a voluntary

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That changes the entire

02:05:48.580 --> 02:05:50.860
You volunteered to sign up for this program

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Wait a minute

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How is it, I'm trying to understand something

02:05:52.760 --> 02:05:53.620
How is this communist?

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This doesn't

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From the government

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Not in a private company

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I feel like it is a communist thing

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The way that they do it with their government jobs

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Because if you work our government job for 10 years

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We'll guarantee that the next generation of people

02:06:10.460 --> 02:06:12.380
Getting government jobs will pay for your pension

02:06:12.380 --> 02:06:14.500
And then you need to recruit more

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Like you guys are talking about

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I think this is a major problem that we're talking about

02:06:17.640 --> 02:06:19.680
But I don't know if it's specifically communist

02:06:19.680 --> 02:06:20.620
I mean, that's a good point

02:06:20.620 --> 02:06:22.160
But here's another thing I have to say

02:06:22.160 --> 02:06:24.380
It's kind of like a pyramid scheme in a way

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The way that Jay explained to me

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The teachers unions in Massachusetts

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Maybe this is everywhere

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But Jay specifically had info

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On the teachers unions in Massachusetts

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They had incentive to get more people to become teachers

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Or else their pensions weren't going to get paid

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By the new people coming and paying the union

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Well, it's okay

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So here's, I think one of the problems

02:06:44.100 --> 02:06:45.320
That you're kind of describing here

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Is that the larger the union is

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The more power the union has

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And the more influence they have

02:06:52.040 --> 02:06:52.800
So they can

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But also people paying in

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In order to keep the top paid

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If not enough people become teachers the next year

02:06:59.320 --> 02:07:04.500
Say we just lower the funds for the public schools

02:07:04.500 --> 02:07:07.320
Because, well, we found out that it doesn't actually

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Raise testing stores or whatever

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They're going to fight against that

02:07:10.520 --> 02:07:12.560
Hard core because in part

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Their pyramid scheme they got going on with their pensions

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See what I mean?

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Because they need newbies

02:07:17.240 --> 02:07:19.000
It's like pyramid scheme, you need newbies

02:07:19.000 --> 02:07:20.060
No, I see what she's saying

02:07:20.060 --> 02:07:21.120
Like if you don't have

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New people to pay for the retirees

02:07:23.980 --> 02:07:25.480
Yeah, no, no, no

02:07:25.480 --> 02:07:25.900
So there's

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Then you don't have a retirement

02:07:27.420 --> 02:07:31.120
Okay, so there's something called a funded pension

02:07:31.120 --> 02:07:32.620
And there's something called an unfunded pension

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And or liability anyway

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I actually know a little bit about this surprisingly

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So in New Jersey the pension fund is basically been

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It was supposed to be funded by the state

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But they basically, I don't know if you guys know about

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Social Security

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But like how they've been stealing from Social Security

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To pay for other programs

02:07:50.000 --> 02:07:50.360
Yeah

02:07:50.360 --> 02:07:52.340
Well, New Jersey's basically been doing the same kind of thing

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With the New Jersey pension fund

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For teachers basically

02:07:55.900 --> 02:08:00.180
So it and because they did not fund the pension for 20 years

02:08:00.180 --> 02:08:02.460
They basically don't have any money left in their pension fund

02:08:02.460 --> 02:08:04.180
To pay out the teachers that are now retiring

02:08:04.180 --> 02:08:06.360
So basically the cost

02:08:06.360 --> 02:08:08.400
The cost of this is astronomical

02:08:09.660 --> 02:08:11.740
To taxpayers because ultimately those

02:08:12.360 --> 02:08:15.480
Have to those either either one or two things have to happen

02:08:15.480 --> 02:08:17.800
The teachers no longer they lose their pension

02:08:17.800 --> 02:08:20.280
Or the state has to fund those

02:08:20.280 --> 02:08:22.480
That pension fund they have to put money into the pension fund

02:08:22.480 --> 02:08:23.920
That they haven't been doing for 20 years

02:08:24.560 --> 02:08:27.460
And in the process also stole a money over the last 20 years

02:08:28.160 --> 02:08:28.580
So

02:08:28.580 --> 02:08:30.320
I mean it's certainly

02:08:30.320 --> 02:08:31.380
You guys are making excuses

02:08:31.380 --> 02:08:32.280
A scam of some way

02:08:32.280 --> 02:08:32.700
That

02:08:33.240 --> 02:08:37.280
Like you guys are saying it's okay for them to get ripped off of the pension

02:08:37.280 --> 02:08:39.480
For whatever reason that they come up with

02:08:39.480 --> 02:08:40.480
I'm not saying that

02:08:40.480 --> 02:08:42.380
Yeah, I don't think we said that at all actually

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In fact I think that it's funny because

02:08:43.620 --> 02:08:45.960
Chris and Angelo and I are saying

02:08:45.960 --> 02:08:47.740
Ah communism scam

02:08:47.740 --> 02:08:48.680
Same thing

02:08:49.320 --> 02:08:51.260
Like almost the same thing not Chris saying that

02:08:51.260 --> 02:08:53.460
I think I think a better way to phrase this is that the

02:08:54.100 --> 02:08:56.240
Sort of the special interests

02:08:56.240 --> 02:08:58.900
While their special interest group is what they are

02:08:58.900 --> 02:09:00.660
And they've basically

02:09:02.200 --> 02:09:04.540
Manipulated their way into undeserved

02:09:05.360 --> 02:09:05.840
monies

02:09:06.440 --> 02:09:07.560
Through the

02:09:09.040 --> 02:09:10.620
Benefits that teachers get

02:09:11.220 --> 02:09:13.320
In the real world if you look at the benefits for teachers

02:09:13.320 --> 02:09:14.300
Or at least in New Jersey

02:09:14.300 --> 02:09:16.920
It's astronomical that what they've been promised

02:09:16.920 --> 02:09:19.360
And it's outside

02:09:19.360 --> 02:09:21.940
You know I tell you that this is communist agenda

02:09:21.940 --> 02:09:23.580
Communist because

02:09:24.360 --> 02:09:28.040
What I used to call go to communist party meetings

02:09:28.040 --> 02:09:31.300
That was one of the things that the communist party

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Fend this for

02:09:32.860 --> 02:09:36.620
What's our security, Medicaid, Medicare and pensions

02:09:36.620 --> 02:09:37.380
Well

02:09:37.380 --> 02:09:38.940
That's the way that we use the house

02:09:38.940 --> 02:09:39.860
Government-funded pensions

02:09:39.860 --> 02:09:41.820
Is that what the communist party would want?

02:09:42.020 --> 02:09:43.280
Or is that what you're saying?

02:09:43.620 --> 02:09:44.800
Okay, well you

02:09:44.800 --> 02:09:46.780
Okay, you're you're how old are you?

02:09:47.120 --> 02:09:47.720
I'm

02:09:47.720 --> 02:09:48.400
I'm really nice

02:09:48.400 --> 02:09:48.740
Six

02:09:49.740 --> 02:09:52.700
Okay, so when I was nine years old

02:09:52.700 --> 02:09:55.060
I remember when Reagan was there

02:09:55.060 --> 02:09:58.700
Almost like 90% of the people got pensions from the company

02:09:58.700 --> 02:10:03.140
One dollar you put in it was not a 401k we should get a one dollar bag

02:10:03.140 --> 02:10:04.400
Now it's

02:10:04.400 --> 02:10:08.360
Disappeared and nobody knows what's going on and nobody really cares

02:10:08.360 --> 02:10:11.060
So they're taking away a communist program

02:10:11.860 --> 02:10:14.560
So I'm just bringing it up. They're getting ripped off

02:10:14.560 --> 02:10:15.540
It's not a communist

02:10:16.060 --> 02:10:17.540
Yes, stop saying it's communist

02:10:17.540 --> 02:10:21.680
If the company wants it's a socialist program through the company

02:10:21.680 --> 02:10:24.740
That's your the company is funding it and you're gonna

02:10:24.740 --> 02:10:26.380
I don't know if you call it socialist even

02:10:26.380 --> 02:10:26.820
I don't know either

02:10:27.440 --> 02:10:30.980
Socialists I think I think it would be fair to say when you participate voluntarily

02:10:30.980 --> 02:10:33.920
Or are you just using if you're giving one dollar and you're gonna get a dollar back

02:10:33.920 --> 02:10:37.060
And then you're effectively just using your pension as a bank. It's a bank account

02:10:37.060 --> 02:10:38.300
Yeah, that's your saving

02:10:38.300 --> 02:10:40.280
I don't think I don't think you can call it

02:10:40.280 --> 02:10:42.680
I don't think you can call a pension or a 401k

02:10:42.680 --> 02:10:44.960
Or any of that is socialist that's that's more capitalist

02:10:45.460 --> 02:10:46.560
But the um

02:10:46.560 --> 02:10:51.120
Why would you be that big because they twisted your mind when I went to the communist party

02:10:51.800 --> 02:10:53.020
In the communist paper

02:10:53.020 --> 02:10:56.820
The thing me and chris are kind of was a communist plan

02:10:56.820 --> 02:10:57.640
It's voluntary

02:10:57.640 --> 02:11:02.100
Yeah, if it's voluntary within the company that you're putting in and stuff that is not communist

02:11:02.100 --> 02:11:08.080
But when it's the government saying that they'll get they'll continue paying their employee who worked for 10 years for life

02:11:08.080 --> 02:11:11.860
Don't you think that's a little different than a like if I got IHG

02:11:11.860 --> 02:11:14.000
I was paying in and my other employees were

02:11:14.580 --> 02:11:16.580
Fellow employees were a better example

02:11:16.580 --> 02:11:20.060
A better example of something that sort of is social socialist

02:11:20.060 --> 02:11:23.780
Sort of leaning it. I don't know if I call it socialist, but would be health insurance

02:11:23.780 --> 02:11:29.600
And that is within the within the however, it's got to be within the context of

02:11:30.140 --> 02:11:32.540
Sort of you're paying into a system

02:11:33.140 --> 02:11:39.580
And but what you benefit you might you might you might get more from it than you put in but you might also lose

02:11:39.580 --> 02:11:45.400
Yeah, because you're basically socializing the costs over a large group of people now in theory

02:11:46.500 --> 02:11:51.240
Medicaid Medicare is basically free health care for people. It's not free

02:11:51.880 --> 02:11:57.040
It's not free. You put you you've paid into it over the course of your you know working career

02:11:57.580 --> 02:12:00.520
You're paying it to it when you're old and you need it

02:12:00.520 --> 02:12:03.580
It's there for you when you when your health goes bad

02:12:03.580 --> 02:12:07.980
The Medicaid takes for your nursing home or medicine or doctors visit

02:12:07.980 --> 02:12:12.680
When you do it when you get into work and you need blood that's all paid

02:12:13.260 --> 02:12:18.140
For by Medicaid. So it's a communist philosophy everybody pays there when they're able to work

02:12:18.140 --> 02:12:22.140
Yeah, but you you don't necessarily have to have that forced mandated by government

02:12:22.140 --> 02:12:24.300
You can do that through the private system as well

02:12:24.300 --> 02:12:29.640
I pay for health insurance out of my own pocket. Um, I'm a self-employed individual basically

02:12:29.640 --> 02:12:34.540
I mean technically my corporate the corporation I work for pays for but anyway, the point that I'm making is your own one though, right?

02:12:34.540 --> 02:12:40.920
Yeah, I I I I I have 100 shares of my company. So but anyway, the point is that um, ultimately

02:12:41.360 --> 02:12:44.740
You're you're paying into these systems through your employment

02:12:45.280 --> 02:12:48.160
Um health insurance, for example, if you get health insurance from a company

02:12:48.160 --> 02:12:52.340
But if you don't and say you're self-employed in the sense that you don't work for a corporation

02:12:52.340 --> 02:12:56.160
You just work for yourself, you know, um, you're you're still when you get health insurance

02:12:56.160 --> 02:13:00.900
You're paying an amount out of your own pocket to get that health insurance and you're joining a socialist

02:13:01.860 --> 02:13:06.760
Scheme basically, but it's voluntary and and there's nothing wrong with that. Um,

02:13:07.020 --> 02:13:12.160
It the thing that's wrong is when it's mandated by law when you're forced to participate

02:13:13.260 --> 02:13:14.040
So I

02:13:14.920 --> 02:13:16.080
understand this

02:13:16.080 --> 02:13:20.420
Okay, obama was accused of being a communist socialist and he

02:13:20.420 --> 02:13:26.080
Okay, so that his obama health plan. What's the big deal that the whole thing was gonna end

02:13:26.080 --> 02:13:30.280
Because it's it's mandated by law. That's the problem. It's not

02:13:30.900 --> 02:13:38.900
Okay, the problem is that the poor people that are making less money now they have to pay higher insurance way to get the benefits

02:13:39.600 --> 02:13:44.960
So the low income people they just get asked out. They get shoveled out of all the healthcare

02:13:44.960 --> 02:13:51.660
health care benefit benefits that they're poor. They don't qualify. They don't get the help and that's what the big

02:13:51.660 --> 02:13:52.480
most

02:13:53.240 --> 02:13:59.580
So you're okay. So backing up a moment one of the problems with this is that basically most people in america

02:13:59.580 --> 02:14:00.320
They're not poor

02:14:00.760 --> 02:14:06.660
Um, it's it's only a very very small percentage the reason that you don't have much in terms of income

02:14:06.660 --> 02:14:11.580
People that we consider to be poor, which is a good percentage of the population. Let's say it's a third, right?

02:14:11.680 --> 02:14:12.720
Just just for argument's sake

02:14:12.720 --> 02:14:15.080
Um, a third of the population is poor

02:14:15.080 --> 02:14:19.780
But most of that's because the government is stealing through various means through it's called taxes

02:14:19.780 --> 02:14:22.720
But many of these taxes are hidden taxes. So for example

02:14:23.160 --> 02:14:27.720
Um, it may be that you're paying a certain percentage of sales tax. No, that's not really a hidden tax

02:14:27.720 --> 02:14:32.180
But the point is there are tax the gas tax. I would say is a pretty hidden tax

02:14:32.180 --> 02:14:36.900
It's not well advertised. You're right gas taxes, but it is on the receipt. So it's not I don't know if I call it hidden

02:14:36.900 --> 02:14:40.360
But there's there's certainly other hidden taxes about like the cell phone ones

02:14:40.360 --> 02:14:43.940
That was one that somebody pointed out to me as a tax. I'm paying and I was like, uh, well

02:14:43.940 --> 02:14:48.580
There's a lot of things that there's a lot of things you don't even know about. Um, just for example

02:14:49.140 --> 02:14:54.140
tariffs are a form of tax. So, um, the prices on the goods in the stores about

02:14:54.140 --> 02:14:58.440
13 percent of that. Well, it may be even higher now, but it so

02:14:58.980 --> 02:15:02.240
The first time around when trump instituted the tariffs

02:15:02.240 --> 02:15:10.420
Under his first presidency it basically caused a price increase across a wal-mart of about 13 percent

02:15:10.420 --> 02:15:14.980
So about 13 percent of your ink. I mean, okay, this is not a perfect analogy

02:15:14.980 --> 02:15:18.240
But it's about 13 percent of your income for the sake of argument

02:15:18.240 --> 02:15:23.600
Um is basically being stolen from you through taxation that you don't know about right

02:15:23.600 --> 02:15:30.380
And now if you add up all the taxes that you you do and don't know about it ends up being something like 90 percent

02:15:30.380 --> 02:15:32.900
So think about this way if your income more than doubles

02:15:33.440 --> 02:15:40.120
Uh, even the people in the one the bottom one third most of those people are gonna have enough money to cover their their costs themselves

02:15:40.120 --> 02:15:42.500
And they wouldn't need government programs

02:15:42.500 --> 02:15:51.780
The only reason that we we need these people need most of these people need government programs is because the government itself has caused the cost of these programs

02:15:51.780 --> 02:15:52.960
to rise

02:15:53.480 --> 02:15:57.420
Because of the inefficiencies if you let this all occur through free market

02:15:58.150 --> 02:16:02.320
And voluntary participation you'd have more efficient systems. And for example

02:16:03.000 --> 02:16:09.120
Somebody who's on the street needs a house over the they needs a roof over their head more than they need doctors a doctor

02:16:09.670 --> 02:16:12.480
You know health insurance basically those people would end up

02:16:12.480 --> 02:16:16.100
Putting that money into a house over their head so they don't get sick in the first place

02:16:16.730 --> 02:16:18.080
and not wasted on

02:16:18.870 --> 02:16:22.760
Health insurance that they don't need right? It's not to say that you know

02:16:23.620 --> 02:16:25.780
Some people definitely need health insurance, but

02:16:25.780 --> 02:16:30.800
It depends on the individual and and and these programs don't take that into consideration

02:16:30.800 --> 02:16:34.460
They're they're just sort of universal and then they end up wasting a lot of money as a result

02:16:34.460 --> 02:16:42.500
So that's why um voluntary programs are are kind of um a better voluntary socialist type programs are a way better approach

02:16:42.500 --> 02:16:45.340
than mandated government programs

02:16:46.420 --> 02:16:46.900
Hmm

02:16:47.420 --> 02:16:53.860
Well, I I agree that's much better as well and still I'm not sure if the state funding ones cover the word communist

02:16:53.860 --> 02:16:57.780
But I understand why sarah would say that the communists like it, you know

02:16:57.780 --> 02:17:01.040
Well, especially if it has the weight of a union behind it

02:17:01.040 --> 02:17:02.820
Like the union is gonna

02:17:03.320 --> 02:17:08.520
force the company to do a pension that would be like a she's not wrong workers unite idea

02:17:08.520 --> 02:17:13.740
She's not she's definitely not I think her sentiment isn't necessarily wrong here like a lot of like a lot of the stuff does come from

02:17:14.500 --> 02:17:19.320
The unions and that's what the reason you have pensions is because of

02:17:20.080 --> 02:17:22.580
What 19 early 1900s?

02:17:22.880 --> 02:17:24.780
Maybe late 1800s

02:17:25.240 --> 02:17:30.640
Unions basically fighting for those pensions. Um, so like the labor unions and the

02:17:30.640 --> 02:17:34.560
Yes, who built the unions the communist party the communist party

02:17:34.560 --> 02:17:41.140
And sarah sarah like I think what you have to under one of the things you should understand about like libertarians is

02:17:41.140 --> 02:17:43.400
I don't think we're I wouldn't say we're

02:17:43.940 --> 02:17:51.380
Against unions entirely like like so unions are a good tool in a free market to fight back against oppressive

02:17:52.240 --> 02:17:55.540
You know corporations and yeah, yeah, like capitalists

02:17:55.540 --> 02:17:59.620
Capitalism, but you you want to make sure that it's it's not being done

02:18:00.140 --> 02:18:02.480
You know done through government or regulation

02:18:03.280 --> 02:18:08.560
And so that what you're talking about when it comes to pensions is it was never done traditionally

02:18:08.560 --> 02:18:13.020
It was never done through government. It was well. It was mostly done anyway through

02:18:13.580 --> 02:18:19.980
Protests, you know walkouts that kind of thing strikes right right and that's actually a good. Um, that's actually kind of a

02:18:20.560 --> 02:18:21.080
good

02:18:22.320 --> 02:18:24.780
solution to the sort of the problem of

02:18:25.520 --> 02:18:28.360
You know labor not having a lot of

02:18:29.000 --> 02:18:33.480
Power in the in the in the relationship between employers and employees

02:18:34.440 --> 02:18:37.740
But all they ever taught me in schools seriously over and over again

02:18:37.740 --> 02:18:41.460
I was always excited for american history specifically. It was like the robber barons

02:18:41.460 --> 02:18:46.220
The robber barons are evil and that's why we had to make unions. They taught me that so many times over in

02:18:46.220 --> 02:18:48.900
You know what it's some of it some of this is true right like some of that

02:18:48.900 --> 02:18:54.780
Yes, people were being taken advantage of and they were being people were being taken advantage of but that doesn't necessarily mean the solution

02:18:55.360 --> 02:18:55.760
um

02:18:55.760 --> 02:18:58.000
The solution might have some of the salute problems

02:18:58.000 --> 02:19:03.160
Or the solutions some of those problems might have been you know legal ones because you know people were being

02:19:03.160 --> 02:19:05.400
Lands were literally just being outright stolen from people

02:19:05.400 --> 02:19:10.560
Well, but it was the government does is they'll use immigration to union bust. They did it in the 1900s

02:19:10.560 --> 02:19:14.280
That's what they imported so many irish. Sure because the irish would work for pennies

02:19:14.280 --> 02:19:15.920
And this is the thing though

02:19:15.920 --> 02:19:22.340
We need free. This is one of the reasons why we need free. We don't want just free trade. We want free

02:19:22.340 --> 02:19:24.600
uh libertarians anyway, we want

02:19:24.600 --> 02:19:25.440
free

02:19:25.880 --> 02:19:27.400
Uh movement of people as well

02:19:27.400 --> 02:19:31.080
So you not only you you can compete and basically and this is the thing

02:19:31.080 --> 02:19:36.660
What what I think americans sometimes fail to understand is we are some of the best educated people in the world

02:19:36.660 --> 02:19:42.240
Right, like you do not have a problem competing with foreigners. You are basically complaining about

02:19:42.810 --> 02:19:48.940
Something that is almost artificially an artificial concern that doesn't for the most part exist

02:19:48.940 --> 02:19:53.880
When when we import labor for example, um, it actually benefits

02:19:53.880 --> 02:19:58.700
Uh americans because then those americans end up with better paying jobs

02:19:59.220 --> 02:20:02.400
You know over time because there's ends up you end up having a less

02:20:02.400 --> 02:20:06.780
There's less cost to the production which ends up benefiting everybody

02:20:06.780 --> 02:20:11.020
But it also ends up benefiting them in the sense of well now there's no there's more management, right?

02:20:11.080 --> 02:20:12.780
And so there's there's more better paying jobs

02:20:13.720 --> 02:20:17.220
It's it's not all it's not all negative. I don't and don't get me wrong

02:20:17.220 --> 02:20:21.500
I'm not saying that it's I don't think the the trickle down theory of like hatcher

02:20:21.500 --> 02:20:27.160
Is somebody in the uk a long time ago anyway 80s anyway, um, I think a lot of that was kind of nonsense

02:20:27.160 --> 02:20:30.500
It was ridiculous. Um, but it doesn't necessarily mean there's no truth

02:20:30.500 --> 02:20:34.920
It's it's entirely false. I guess is what I'm trying to say like workers should be able to come together and say

02:20:34.920 --> 02:20:38.580
Hey, we want to um work. We want to talk to you the boss

02:20:38.580 --> 02:20:43.180
We're not being treated fairly and this is what like throw your weight around they should be allowed to do that

02:20:43.180 --> 02:20:48.980
Yeah, absolutely. And but at the same time like the employer should be allowed to go and say okay, you're fired

02:20:49.780 --> 02:20:50.180
um

02:20:51.320 --> 02:20:55.220
And it's it's it's yeah, but if they say okay, you're fired because I can

02:20:55.980 --> 02:21:02.500
I have the government is funding people to come here and work under the table for less dollars

02:21:02.500 --> 02:21:07.300
Well, then let's solve that problem by stop funding them right like right like that's the thing

02:21:07.300 --> 02:21:09.560
Um, there are welfare there are problems

02:21:09.560 --> 02:21:13.500
But the solutions that you know the the communists and the people on the left

02:21:13.500 --> 02:21:17.380
Want to shove down our throat are really really terrible solutions

02:21:17.380 --> 02:21:21.480
And I don't want to give anybody the idea that I am on the right

02:21:21.480 --> 02:21:23.160
I am not on the right not by a long shot

02:21:23.160 --> 02:21:25.740
The the the people the republicans the conservatives

02:21:25.740 --> 02:21:29.240
They have a lot of terrible ideas too and a lot of them are very similar to the people on the left

02:21:29.240 --> 02:21:35.000
They're socialists too. They want to socialize police protection. They definitely the people on the right are definitely socialist

02:21:35.640 --> 02:21:40.580
It they just don't perceive themselves to be socialists because the conservative party doesn't exist

02:21:40.580 --> 02:21:43.060
The overton windows shifts every 20 years

02:21:43.560 --> 02:21:45.240
Nothing ever gets conserved

02:21:45.240 --> 02:21:50.320
All you gotta do yeah start talking about medicaid medicare

02:21:50.790 --> 02:21:56.880
Social security with republicans and all of a sudden you will you will get a response that is like

02:21:56.880 --> 02:21:58.880
Oh, I thought you were conservative a republican

02:21:59.480 --> 02:22:01.440
And they're like, what do you mean? I am

02:22:01.440 --> 02:22:02.080
Yeah

02:22:02.800 --> 02:22:04.800
No, you're talking socialism here

02:22:04.800 --> 02:22:08.200
Well, I think they're upset that they're 50 and if we turned it off now

02:22:08.200 --> 02:22:11.840
Then they've already paid so x amount of dollars into it and they want to get the money

02:22:11.840 --> 02:22:14.740
They got it. Yeah, right, but right and I totally agree

02:22:14.740 --> 02:22:18.820
It's selfish socialism. The problem is it is a pyramid scheme, right?

02:22:18.900 --> 02:22:25.100
And so so that money that you put in you were you were deceived basically and you shouldn't um

02:22:25.100 --> 02:22:29.260
I mean, look, I don't want to I don't want to be like, okay

02:22:29.260 --> 02:22:35.260
Like I get like I get it and we need we probably need a solution to this problem of all these people being deceived

02:22:35.940 --> 02:22:40.320
Um, but at the same time it's like it has to end at some point. Yeah, right

02:22:40.320 --> 02:22:47.060
It's like and you're you're selling your grandchildren out like wouldn't you rather be a little less comfortable than ruin your grandchildren's future?

02:22:47.420 --> 02:22:52.220
Yeah, um, I mean and maybe one of the solutions to the problem is to pay out everybody, right?

02:22:52.660 --> 02:22:57.400
Um, it's whatever degree that there's money in the you know in in that system, right?

02:22:57.760 --> 02:23:02.740
I mean like pay them all the rest they would get until they died or one lump sum kind of situation, right?

02:23:03.340 --> 02:23:04.980
So, um and ended there

02:23:04.980 --> 02:23:10.680
Yeah, and and the problem here mind you is that you're going to get a percentage, right? Because it's there's the money does

02:23:10.680 --> 02:23:13.180
One of the problems is the money doesn't actually exist

02:23:13.180 --> 02:23:17.940
Yeah, you you were putting into it, but it was going out the moment you put it into that system

02:23:17.940 --> 02:23:23.420
And so now what we have is a situation where there's no money the only way you're going to get a

02:23:23.420 --> 02:23:30.860
So security is basically by stealing from me. Um meaning me as in the sense that the working population, right?

02:23:31.340 --> 02:23:33.840
Um, and the original people who put into it

02:23:33.840 --> 02:23:38.680
Uh, it got paid out to people who who never actually paid into it in the first place

02:23:38.680 --> 02:23:42.120
So every every successive generation is basically

02:23:42.720 --> 02:23:45.060
Uh being harmed effectively

02:23:45.600 --> 02:23:47.100
Um by this system

02:23:47.640 --> 02:23:54.100
Um, and it's a terrible system if you ask me well and it blows up really quickly if you make it impossible to have kids

02:23:54.100 --> 02:23:58.680
So suddenly there's more workers to feed this the beast and there are right

02:23:58.680 --> 02:24:06.080
So it old people so the system actually the system has implemented actually works to the degree that you have a replacement population

02:24:06.080 --> 02:24:08.480
The problem is we don't have a replacement population

02:24:09.160 --> 02:24:13.900
Right, and this is what makes it a sort of a pyramid scheme or something similar to it and in that

02:24:14.360 --> 02:24:17.600
We don't have okay, so think about this way. Um

02:24:17.600 --> 02:24:19.160
Past generations, you know

02:24:19.160 --> 02:24:24.200
They had nine kids and then more recent generations five and then four then three then two now

02:24:24.200 --> 02:24:28.320
We don't even have one it's like something like one point something kids per person

02:24:28.680 --> 02:24:31.220
Something like that or yeah, sorry for a couple it would be that would be correct

02:24:31.220 --> 02:24:34.620
Which means that you're not even you don't have enough money going into the system to cover

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the they

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uh

02:24:38.060 --> 02:24:40.100
Sorry not pensions. Um to cover the

02:24:41.100 --> 02:24:46.600
What are we talking about? Um, so security. Yeah of people who are now retiring. So

02:24:47.280 --> 02:24:51.660
Yeah, it's it's it's one big scam. That's one big scheme and um, like a lot of the government

02:24:51.660 --> 02:24:52.180
Yeah

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Tams and schemes. Thank you for the call sarah for new mexico more free talk live coming up six zero three two eight

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According to new york time sources president donald trump is reviewing an option to send american forces into iran to carry out raids

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It's unclear if those raids would target government officials or even the supreme leader

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The option carries new weight after us forces captured venezuelan president nicolas maduro earlier this month

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A strike fleet has already been positioned near iran and us officials say the military

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Is ready to carry out any orders from the president

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Trump is demanding iran end its nuclear program and stop killing demonstrators if it wants to avoid us military action

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iran's foreign minister said on friday that tehran will not negotiate under threat and that its defense system will never be up for negotiation

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President trump has nominated kevin warsh a banking executive to head the us central bank

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warsh was widely expected to secure the nod and is believed to share the president's desire to see us interest rates fall

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More rapidly fsn's simon marx reports

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President trump has been hinting for days at the possibility that kevin warsh is his choice to replace jaron powell as the chairman of the fed

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Now he's confirmed it over his social media account

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The president said he expects mr. Warsh to go down as one of the great fed chairman

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May be the best the president described his selection as coming from central casting a possible reference to mr

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He's a former fed governor and a senior figure at the investment bank morgan stanley

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Certainly president trump is hoping that mr. Warsh will prove loyal to his demands for lower interest rates

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Though when the president's selection faces confirmation hearings on capitol hill

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Many lawmakers will want to know whether he's willing to protect the central bank's independence or make it a political arm of the trump administration

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Oh, my first session for a tattoo to be removed today

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Everybody likes to tell you that hurts more than getting a tattoo. It doesn't well anymore

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I understand why they thought that because it used to and um the lasers they have now they are like more powerful

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But less painful. I'm so excited about it. I'm gonna have

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Only one tiny one inch by one inch tattoo on my arm and no giant eagle tattoo on my back

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I wonder if listeners even knew that about me. I hate it. It was bad decision

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Yeah, Bonnie's really a bad girl and uh, oh my god

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She hasn't looked it, but uh, yeah behind the scenes man. I can only imagine your your youth

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Yeah, exactly. It was 19 and 22 when I got my tattoos. So it was just like

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Bad youth decisions not even like a drunk decision or anything like that just like something I was like

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I kind of think I don't like this at right as soon as it was over with

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I kind of think I don't like this. I'm going to try to ignore that feeling never ever grew on me

02:31:02.250 --> 02:31:06.570
I didn't like it. Um, but with you on free talk live tonight. You've got me Bonnie

02:31:07.370 --> 02:31:09.890
Angelo and mr. Penguin and also the friendship

02:31:10.650 --> 02:31:13.170
Tattoos with people. I don't I'm not friends with anymore

02:31:13.710 --> 02:31:18.970
So that's always great. Yeah, he gets that every day. That seems like it does seem like a kind of a terrible idea

02:31:18.970 --> 02:31:20.750
So what do you think does he get?

02:31:21.310 --> 02:31:24.630
I feel like he probably gets a ton of like people who got out get out of prison

02:31:24.630 --> 02:31:27.610
And are like, no, I need all this stuff removed

02:31:28.190 --> 02:31:32.530
That's such a great point because he said that he said there are people that kill themselves over it

02:31:32.530 --> 02:31:38.930
I think he's doing a great service to people. He doesn't give tattoos. He's only a tattoo remover and uh, his

02:31:38.930 --> 02:31:43.990
Uh point was it's a racer head in Brattleboro if you want to know you got you got to explain to me

02:31:43.990 --> 02:31:46.230
how does this actually work like is this like a

02:31:47.030 --> 02:31:50.590
Doctor type person or is this like somebody who just removes tattoos with a

02:31:50.590 --> 02:31:54.950
Who has the laser and he rents a space and you find him on the internet and you in fact

02:31:54.950 --> 02:31:57.590
There wasn't there's not even a sign for the door. So it seemed a little sketchy

02:31:57.590 --> 02:32:04.250
He was really professional and everything seemed clean. I was really happy with my experience and um, it's painful

02:32:04.250 --> 02:32:07.810
But he's not creepy or I don't know how to explain. He's not weird

02:32:07.810 --> 02:32:11.750
It's like clean. It's like clean and like looks professional seems like the older guy

02:32:11.750 --> 02:32:15.610
Okay, I'm not as legit seems legit. It's legit. Why do I need to see a government?

02:32:15.610 --> 02:32:20.990
Why why do I need a why do I need a government to tell me that he's cleared to do tattoo removals?

02:32:21.190 --> 02:32:24.890
Oh, yeah, no, no, he probably has a license, but I don't so I don't know what the

02:32:24.890 --> 02:32:29.210
I don't even know what the procedure looks like right like I kind of get it like it's a laser

02:32:29.210 --> 02:32:33.790
But like one snap it literally sounds like a snap. It's so loud. It was like plugging my ears

02:32:33.790 --> 02:32:34.830
It's not so loud

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It's a weird noise because it said it does it shoots photons that use so fast that it's like it makes a sound wave

02:32:41.490 --> 02:32:45.310
So I closest thing I've ever experienced personally

02:32:45.890 --> 02:32:52.730
To lasers on body parts or I had lasik surgery when I was young. Yeah, so I already ran out or whatever

02:32:55.670 --> 02:33:01.290
So if you ever get lasik, um, you do need to be aware and they will tell you this before you get it

02:33:01.290 --> 02:33:04.110
It's only good for a certain period of time like a decade. Maybe or so

02:33:04.690 --> 02:33:08.590
Um, you you may be able to do the basically trying to sell you on like

02:33:08.590 --> 02:33:12.970
Oh, well, then you can get touch-ups and things like that. But you know ultimately at the end of the day, honestly like

02:33:13.650 --> 02:33:15.410
You get older and you don't really care anymore

02:33:16.210 --> 02:33:19.710
So you could get it again if you want it, but you know, yeah

02:33:19.710 --> 02:33:22.750
I mean, I think there's a certain amount of risk to it. Um to be honest

02:33:23.730 --> 02:33:28.970
Like okay, so my I'm trying to think what they're what they're called lenses to bring him to the grocery store

02:33:28.970 --> 02:33:32.030
You can't rely on Riley to bring you so well, I don't know

02:33:32.030 --> 02:33:35.610
I mean Riley's pretty good these days. You can do his own shopping

02:33:35.610 --> 02:33:38.070
He might be able to help me if I do go blind, but imagine

02:33:38.590 --> 02:33:43.830
Chris went blind from lasik and Riley showed him how to go get around the grocery store. Yeah, so it's a reverse

02:33:43.830 --> 02:33:47.770
Riley get would get paid back against you too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right?

02:33:48.030 --> 02:33:50.830
Yeah, pay me back for all the time I spent with him

02:33:50.830 --> 02:33:56.850
forcing him to be independent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, it's the master becomes the student and now you get to

02:33:56.850 --> 02:33:59.110
Yeah, it's honestly. It's not even me like

02:33:59.110 --> 02:34:01.330
Going around so so let's back up a second

02:34:01.330 --> 02:34:05.110
so Riley's a co-host on this show and he's blind anyway, and um

02:34:05.110 --> 02:34:12.470
I I regularly like probably like once a week or so. I take him grocery shopping and um, he's um, I've been very I've been very

02:34:13.010 --> 02:34:20.390
Encouraging very encouraging him to you know, he's been very pushing the baby out of the nest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, anyway

02:34:20.390 --> 02:34:25.910
and um, I mean here's the thing like everybody always tries to do stuff for you when you're blind and it's like

02:34:26.610 --> 02:34:32.510
You know, it's it kind of steals your independence from you and um, and I think I think um

02:34:32.510 --> 02:34:38.810
I think Riley appreciates it. Um, but I've been encouraging him to you know, don't let me show you you just do it

02:34:38.810 --> 02:34:40.670
Like you you you learn yourself, right?

02:34:40.930 --> 02:34:43.810
And um, so it's not even me like showing him where stuff is

02:34:43.810 --> 02:34:47.210
It's him just walking or wandering around a grocery store figuring out where things are

02:34:47.210 --> 02:34:50.570
And then you know next time, you know, he gets faster at it a little bit faster

02:34:50.570 --> 02:34:55.050
And is he using his glasses tool? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and he's um, he does have some tools to help him

02:34:55.050 --> 02:35:00.690
He's got um these I hate these things, but they're um, the one the one good thing they're good for

02:35:00.690 --> 02:35:01.870
is for somebody who's blind

02:35:02.790 --> 02:35:07.530
Yesterday I said I would like click and delete anything AI and I was like dang it

02:35:07.530 --> 02:35:09.710
The only good thing I could think of is like for

02:35:09.710 --> 02:35:17.430
Blind people and maybe there's some other disabilities that help people. Yeah. I don't like anything else. AI. There's there's two solutions

02:35:17.430 --> 02:35:21.790
Um, basically to reading sort of text and things um for people who are blind

02:35:21.790 --> 02:35:25.410
One of them is a phone app and one of them is the AI glasses

02:35:25.410 --> 02:35:28.030
And so he's got these AI glasses like

02:35:28.030 --> 02:35:32.490
But he already had his phone reading himself before AI glasses. He did the AI glasses do work better though

02:35:32.490 --> 02:35:37.170
Um, so and and the thing is um, you kind of need them in order to read the labels

02:35:37.770 --> 02:35:42.150
So and there's some things that you have to read the labels on in order because the containers are the same

02:35:42.150 --> 02:35:45.990
So but one of the things one of the things I was trying to you know

02:35:46.610 --> 02:35:50.030
Tag him to do um to so he's he's actually can do it himself

02:35:50.030 --> 02:35:56.470
Is that he needs to rely not only on so the skills he had before was basically finding where stuff is right

02:35:56.470 --> 02:35:59.350
The problem is then he started relying on the glasses too much

02:35:59.970 --> 02:36:03.470
And he he's unable to find where this stuff is so i'm like, okay rally

02:36:03.470 --> 02:36:07.870
Don't forget you need to rely on your old skills and the new ones the glasses, right?

02:36:08.110 --> 02:36:11.190
So yeah, it's like I it's not me really going around showing him where stuff is

02:36:11.190 --> 02:36:17.330
It's just me encouraging him to you know, take the time and energy to figure it out yourself the most, um

02:36:17.330 --> 02:36:17.650
independent

02:36:19.890 --> 02:36:22.670
I was I was impressed with him today with um

02:36:23.110 --> 02:36:27.170
You came I drove him to the local burger, but I didn't guide him in and he found his way in

02:36:27.170 --> 02:36:29.670
Right for the most part and it's a little dangerous there

02:36:29.670 --> 02:36:31.290
So it was good that you were watching a little bit

02:36:31.290 --> 02:36:34.450
But but yeah, but um he can even do that for the most part by himself almost

02:36:34.450 --> 02:36:39.950
We do have a caller so i'm going to go to the phones unscreened caller you're on free talk live. What is on your mind?

02:36:41.570 --> 02:36:44.970
Yeah, technology. Hey chris. How you doing? Yeah, what's up technology?

02:36:45.610 --> 02:36:45.770
um

02:36:46.570 --> 02:36:52.290
Yeah, technology so um picking up where we left off, uh, you know and past conversations

02:36:52.670 --> 02:36:57.770
Things that you that I don't that i'm having problems with with technology and you might have a handle on

02:36:58.230 --> 02:36:59.650
one of the things you're talking about was

02:37:00.270 --> 02:37:02.210
The the uh forthcoming

02:37:02.950 --> 02:37:03.430
satellite

02:37:04.450 --> 02:37:08.130
Uh, direct to mobile. Are you still there? Yeah, i'm here

02:37:08.930 --> 02:37:15.290
Okay, satellite direct to mobile, which I don't know if you've kept up with the with the what's going on with that

02:37:15.290 --> 02:37:17.310
But the news that I read

02:37:17.310 --> 02:37:19.790
Is there news? Is there new news?

02:37:20.750 --> 02:37:29.750
Yeah, yeah, there is. Um, and so at this point whether people are aware of it or not the major carriers pretty much all have

02:37:30.330 --> 02:37:32.930
A satellite direct to sell

02:37:33.710 --> 02:37:34.090
messaging

02:37:34.870 --> 02:37:39.770
Yeah, and um, but they but they don't yet have full data data

02:37:40.410 --> 02:37:44.910
Satellite direct to mobile. Yeah, it's expensive to do data

02:37:44.910 --> 02:37:49.350
So well it's expensive to voice to especially voice but um data is expensive

02:37:49.350 --> 02:37:52.890
So you wouldn't you wouldn't want to do that. You'd only want to do basic text messaging kind of stuff

02:37:53.350 --> 02:37:58.670
But but they are going to do it. They they if you full on data they're they're not going to do

02:37:58.670 --> 02:38:01.670
I mean, well, I mean, so well, let's see you can do it for

02:38:01.670 --> 02:38:04.770
The cost is the cost you're right the costs have dropped

02:38:04.770 --> 02:38:06.110
So I guess you you might be able to do it

02:38:06.110 --> 02:38:11.050
But it's it's still going to be way more expensive than the local um the local cellular signal

02:38:11.750 --> 02:38:12.550
Costs the carriers

02:38:12.550 --> 02:38:18.050
So it's still going to be something that is a secondary not primary as far as you know functionality is concerned

02:38:18.050 --> 02:38:22.070
True, but the but the the satellite direct to mobile

02:38:22.830 --> 02:38:29.110
Messaging is a secondary backup because the way that your phone's work the way that your phones work right now

02:38:29.110 --> 02:38:31.310
Is that if you are

02:38:31.310 --> 02:38:36.590
Where there is self signal and you get a text message it will go through the normal channels

02:38:36.590 --> 02:38:38.190
If you are out of

02:38:38.190 --> 02:38:43.610
Signal range, then it will automatically go through the satellite and you'll still get it anyway

02:38:43.610 --> 02:38:47.810
It's included in the premium plans from the premium carriers

02:38:48.370 --> 02:38:51.990
Um, and if it's and if you don't have a premium plan at a premium carrier

02:38:51.990 --> 02:38:57.310
Then you can pay like 10 bucks for the add-on. That's where that's where we're at now

02:38:57.310 --> 02:39:03.410
And so it's just sounds like they've put they've built sat phones into your regular cell phone

02:39:03.410 --> 02:39:07.150
Yeah, or like the same technology. Yeah, basically more

02:39:07.450 --> 02:39:09.770
I think this is a more this is a more modern technology

02:39:09.770 --> 02:39:17.050
But yeah, well, I've used sat phones like hiking and camping like deep woods. Um, so like I know like they do have direct satellite messaging

02:39:17.590 --> 02:39:20.930
Oh, yeah, you're like I have that for techies and decades. Yeah. Yeah, so

02:39:21.490 --> 02:39:26.170
But those phones are expensive and the so is the service like 300 400 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the phone

02:39:26.690 --> 02:39:31.270
But but this is your your current cell phones that you have in your possession

02:39:31.270 --> 02:39:34.990
If you have a flagship phone at a flagship carrier

02:39:35.590 --> 02:39:40.010
Buying their flagship service. You already have it on your existing phone

02:39:40.010 --> 02:39:43.970
They have built that the capability in in many cases

02:39:44.690 --> 02:39:49.970
Already in the last couple of years. Yeah, and it depends also the some are doing that way

02:39:49.970 --> 02:39:54.610
There's also the it has been designed that it works with your normal phone

02:39:54.610 --> 02:39:59.770
That didn't have the chipset for the satellite built into it now coming up in the

02:40:00.350 --> 02:40:03.670
Now coming up and then say what that doesn't make any sense to me

02:40:03.670 --> 02:40:06.950
How how would that work? Uh, there's no way that could work

02:40:06.950 --> 02:40:12.290
I mean, if the chip doesn't have the satellite capabilities, it's not going to be able to communicate with the satellite

02:40:12.870 --> 02:40:15.570
Okay, well here. Well, if it's an e-sim, here's

02:40:15.570 --> 02:40:17.190
This is something to do with e-sims

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Here's what I know from re doing extensive reading reading until I couldn't find any new information

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And that is that the satellite direct to mobile messaging as a backup

02:40:31.010 --> 02:40:38.430
In some instances meaning whatever combination of carrier and plan and phone that you have in some instances

02:40:39.110 --> 02:40:44.270
It it it works with whatever phone you bought even though you never knew that it had that capability

02:40:44.270 --> 02:40:47.490
Oh, yeah in other in that's because it hasn't it wasn't turned on

02:40:47.490 --> 02:40:51.070
It's it's not that it didn't exist or it wasn't in the chip. It's was stolen the chip

02:40:51.070 --> 02:40:57.190
It just yeah, it's it's yeah, they basically deployed the technology long before it was, you know, activated or available as a service

02:40:57.610 --> 02:41:02.210
Exactly. So now going into the future was if you want to keep an eye on

02:41:02.850 --> 02:41:04.610
mobile devices and phones

02:41:05.170 --> 02:41:07.590
That come out in the near future

02:41:07.590 --> 02:41:12.110
What people like myself are waiting for because because we're in the know

02:41:12.110 --> 02:41:19.610
We've been reading the news is we're looking for the new generation of phones that come equipped with the chip set

02:41:19.610 --> 02:41:25.250
That allows the satellite direct to mobile full service data

02:41:26.530 --> 02:41:27.810
And that's coming out

02:41:27.810 --> 02:41:36.270
Uh, apparently in this this year this like this next quarter start watching if if not this quarter then the next quarter

02:41:36.270 --> 02:41:38.330
It's coming out soon from what I read

02:41:38.920 --> 02:41:45.390
Yeah, I this is not the kind of thing that I mean, I'm terribly into um, I just don't care. Um, and also

02:41:45.390 --> 02:41:50.010
I am but um, but I I get the I get the technology. I just yeah, it's not terribly interested

02:41:50.010 --> 02:41:54.550
Right. So so so starlink, right because I'm a starlink user

02:41:54.550 --> 02:42:02.470
And when satellite is capable direct to mobile, then I don't need to lug around the the the starlink

02:42:02.840 --> 02:42:03.970
Of a setup

02:42:04.950 --> 02:42:07.330
That's not going to be a replacement for the starlink setup

02:42:08.030 --> 02:42:08.930
Yes, it will

02:42:10.450 --> 02:42:14.630
Okay, it won't be the performance is not going to the performance is not going to be there

02:42:14.630 --> 02:42:19.590
Correct. Correct. It will not be as high speed as the starlink

02:42:20.410 --> 02:42:24.250
traditional setup, uh, whether the base unit mobile unit

02:42:25.010 --> 02:42:28.570
Backpacking unit the the mini unit whatever won't be as fast as those

02:42:28.570 --> 02:42:35.090
But it will be fast. It'll be fast enough to do for instance to do business. It may not be fast

02:42:35.090 --> 02:42:41.430
I mean, it'll affect your so I actually I'm gonna I'm gonna back up and just say I don't actually know what the performance differences are

02:42:41.430 --> 02:42:43.310
I just know that there's definitely going to be a performance difference

02:42:44.270 --> 02:42:48.690
Right. I but I have read I have read the about the performance differences

02:42:49.270 --> 02:42:54.390
And it will be fast enough, you know, like if you're a do you have any idea like what those speeds will be like

02:42:54.390 --> 02:43:00.230
I'm thinking like like, you know, I don't even know like 90s era dial-up not even that problem

02:43:00.970 --> 02:43:04.010
I I get the impression. I don't remember the exact numbers

02:43:04.010 --> 02:43:08.650
But when I read it and I filed whatever I can recall from when I when I read it

02:43:08.650 --> 02:43:14.430
Yeah, the impression the impression I got is like like I live off the grid and I'm talking to you right now

02:43:14.430 --> 02:43:18.890
I'm using the internet right now do it for every different thing I do and what I got is on

02:43:18.890 --> 02:43:24.230
I have two devices and I it goes back and forth between four g and five g

02:43:24.230 --> 02:43:29.350
And and and then the cellular side like right now I got four bars on my other device

02:43:29.350 --> 02:43:33.710
I'm sure it says three and then it usually goes down as low as two occasionally

02:43:33.710 --> 02:43:36.050
I see one and my speeds

02:43:36.590 --> 02:43:39.370
Are such that, you know, to give you one example

02:43:39.370 --> 02:43:42.610
If I want to go on youtube and keep increasing the quality

02:43:43.130 --> 02:43:48.030
Of the video and then especially if I want to watch it at a faster than than one x speed

02:43:48.030 --> 02:43:51.770
Um, for instance, if I want to watch it a faster than one x speed

02:43:51.770 --> 02:43:59.170
The highest quality that I can go is like 720. I can't go to 1080 and then go faster than one x

02:43:59.170 --> 02:44:01.990
If I want to watch 1080, I got a I got a

02:44:02.530 --> 02:44:04.510
So you're just like a speed test

02:44:04.510 --> 02:44:11.130
No, it doesn't have a service yet. It's not I haven't bought I haven't bothered but but I can if you want to put it in mega mega

02:44:11.730 --> 02:44:14.150
What is it mega any megs a second?

02:44:15.010 --> 02:44:19.330
I'd be surprised if you get megs a second, but but go ahead. I'm sorry. Meg's a minute

02:44:19.330 --> 02:44:22.730
So what the service I described to you right now

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Yeah, uh, I

02:44:26.630 --> 02:44:32.210
No, no mega bit is 30 megs. Um, um, yeah a minute. Yeah, 30 megs a minute. So, uh,

02:44:33.130 --> 02:44:37.530
I don't think I don't think I would have advertised anything in those in that as 30 megs a minute

02:44:37.530 --> 02:44:41.890
You you you probably advertise a kilobits a second or uh megabits a second

02:44:42.410 --> 02:44:48.450
Okay, I'm telling you what I'm getting I'm getting 30 megs a minute on the mobile devices that I described to you

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Which is the point is that's obvious lower than

02:44:51.950 --> 02:44:53.550
Currently, yeah, that's probably 4g

02:44:54.150 --> 02:44:58.490
Yeah, but isn't that not related to these satellite ones because it is it's completely separate

02:44:58.490 --> 02:45:01.290
Yeah, I thought so I'm trying I'm trying to tell you what I know

02:45:01.290 --> 02:45:07.590
I'm trying to finish what so so that's what I that's what I have right and obviously that's slower than your home internet

02:45:07.590 --> 02:45:10.450
Which yes, you know a hundred times faster

02:45:10.450 --> 02:45:15.350
And the impression that I got from the news is that the satellite direct to mobile

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Well, they will be trying to maintain

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What I have now it won't get faster likely

02:45:21.250 --> 02:45:24.410
Okay, so they're trying to maintain 30 megs per second from a satellite

02:45:25.650 --> 02:45:26.490
Yeah, okay

02:45:26.490 --> 02:45:29.110
I I will be shocked if they have those kind of speeds

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But look, I don't know. I don't know the technology well enough the advancements in the technology. These are low or earth

02:45:35.810 --> 02:45:40.950
Satellites as opposed to the higher earth satellites. Um, so there's there's going to be lower latency in theory

02:45:40.950 --> 02:45:43.430
And higher latency for the older technology

02:45:44.070 --> 02:45:49.270
But I I don't know like I would be I would be surprised that they're able to get 30 megs per second

02:45:49.270 --> 02:45:55.030
But I I mean so if the satellite all right, so low earth orbit satellites are

02:45:55.030 --> 02:45:57.910
Like star link you can get 100 megabits a second maybe

02:45:59.050 --> 02:46:01.050
So if I would think it would be like a

02:46:01.050 --> 02:46:06.210
Fraction of that because the like you have to have a big dish in order to use a star link, right?

02:46:06.710 --> 02:46:11.750
So when you shrink it down into something the size of a cell phone, I would expect you to have drastically

02:46:13.350 --> 02:46:14.070
worse reception

02:46:15.330 --> 02:46:17.350
And the data rates are going to go way down

02:46:17.350 --> 02:46:20.910
But I I yeah, I don't know for sure. Do you have more you want to talk about this?

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Or do you want to talk about the vpn? I think we should go on to the vpn. Thank you for the call david

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And go ahead chris. You had a where'd this article come from? Yeah, so this is come from this is coming from reclaim the

02:46:32.570 --> 02:46:38.610
.org and the title of the story is uk house of lords votes to extend age verification of vpns

02:46:39.170 --> 02:46:44.690
So they already made these age verifications on sites and now they want to extend that to to vpns

02:46:44.690 --> 02:46:50.930
Yes, so basically in the uk if you go to facebook or you go to some other social media site right youtube maybe

02:46:51.490 --> 02:46:56.510
You're being you're gonna have to basically this actually already started for I believe um, yeah

02:46:56.510 --> 02:46:59.330
You're gonna use your digital id to log on right? That's tied to your

02:46:59.850 --> 02:47:03.670
Well, it's you have to verify your id somehow like they call they say a digital id

02:47:03.670 --> 02:47:07.830
But basically what they're doing is they're saying you got to present them with an id

02:47:07.830 --> 02:47:16.430
Right like your driver's license right in order to get on facebook. It's it's absolutely insane. Well, so if you go through a vpn

02:47:17.210 --> 02:47:23.010
You're no it doesn't look like to facebook that you're coming from the uk anymore. And so the uk won't ask you to show id

02:47:24.650 --> 02:47:25.130
Right

02:47:26.570 --> 02:47:33.870
They're now going to regulate in the uk the vpn service the vpn service so the vpn providers have to have to

02:47:34.710 --> 02:47:37.210
Ask for id basically is the idea

02:47:38.070 --> 02:47:40.810
um, it's it's it's absolutely sounds absolutely crazy

02:47:40.810 --> 02:47:46.770
um, because the only companies that are going to have to comply are companies that have

02:47:47.330 --> 02:47:53.730
Like servers in the uk anybody else is basically going to just be able to ignore them. So you're gonna

02:47:54.370 --> 02:47:58.950
And the consequences of this is also kind of like dumb right in the sense that

02:47:59.770 --> 02:48:00.750
think about it like this

02:48:01.970 --> 02:48:07.170
You're going to end up forcing people to use free services that are not within the country anyway, and they're going to be more dangerous

02:48:08.870 --> 02:48:12.790
But you know, let's just say like people just don't use servers in the uk

02:48:13.970 --> 02:48:18.350
It kind of like what's the point of the bill at that point right like so we give them enough time

02:48:18.350 --> 02:48:22.490
I just want to put a pin in this really fast and go to the phones. We have a

02:48:22.970 --> 02:48:25.450
Unscreened caller. You're on free talk live. What's on your mind?

02:48:28.050 --> 02:48:33.490
Yes, can somebody please tell dave from mexico that free talk live

02:48:33.490 --> 02:48:35.810
May be a caller driven show

02:48:36.470 --> 02:48:38.290
But it's listener supported

02:48:39.730 --> 02:48:41.510
You you're bored by his call

02:48:44.590 --> 02:48:46.810
Is that what it is oh he hung up

02:48:46.810 --> 02:48:50.170
I think that's I think that's the the gist of it

02:48:50.770 --> 02:48:54.690
Callers, I mean sorry dave calls are hit and miss sometimes. He's pretty entertaining

02:48:56.370 --> 02:49:01.170
Sometimes I wasn't very interested in last call, but I thought chris might be so I let it go on for a bit

02:49:01.170 --> 02:49:05.030
I mean honestly, I don't like I don't even use this. I mean, okay

02:49:05.030 --> 02:49:08.370
So I have a cell phone that you can see from the video, but there's no SIM card in it

02:49:08.370 --> 02:49:12.170
Right, so I don't even use like a cell phone like you would think

02:49:12.170 --> 02:49:19.210
Yeah, like self-service. Yeah, you just use them as like an iPod touch. Yeah, um, they're they're basically tracking devices and um

02:49:19.210 --> 02:49:21.570
I there's people who call them trackers

02:49:21.570 --> 02:49:25.270
We should just start calling cell phones are tracking devices like looking up on your tracking device

02:49:25.270 --> 02:49:30.810
It's basically I I mean, I don't want to go so far as saying it was a technology invented by the cea to track everybody

02:49:30.810 --> 02:49:33.050
But that's basically what it is in practice

02:49:33.830 --> 02:49:34.230
so

02:49:35.110 --> 02:49:39.350
I don't know why you wouldn't want to go that far. It wouldn't surprise me, but you know

02:49:39.810 --> 02:49:45.290
A lot of the a lot of technology has come out of government funding from that in like research and stuff like that

02:49:45.290 --> 02:49:48.950
So like like the internet. Yeah the internet especially as an example

02:49:48.950 --> 02:49:55.750
Directly fed to our phones via the magic rectangles. Yeah. Yeah, and it's not necessarily the oldest technology terrible, but it's

02:49:56.270 --> 02:49:58.750
it the cell phones in particular are

02:50:00.290 --> 02:50:01.330
Particularly dangerous

02:50:01.910 --> 02:50:03.310
They've got modem

02:50:03.310 --> 02:50:06.910
So I actually understand how these things work and if there's basically this thing called firmware

02:50:06.910 --> 02:50:11.590
and there's this thing called a modem basically in your cell phone and that modem

02:50:11.590 --> 02:50:15.110
The firmware for the modem part can be remotely updated

02:50:15.110 --> 02:50:19.850
by the cellular provider and the government can basically order the cellular provider to

02:50:20.510 --> 02:50:26.010
Basically put a bug in so like it then up to the dates of firmware on the modem and then once the modem is updated

02:50:26.010 --> 02:50:29.030
It had generally on most phones. It has access to the rest of the device

02:50:29.030 --> 02:50:31.950
So like any kind of encryption that you do on your phone is totally futile

02:50:32.870 --> 02:50:37.990
Um, it's and I don't want to say that it's totally futile because it's not in the sense that

02:50:37.990 --> 02:50:40.710
They're not going to be doing this to every single person's cell phone probably

02:50:41.070 --> 02:50:43.650
But if you were targeted if you're targeted

02:50:43.650 --> 02:50:47.790
Yeah, you're the cell the encryption is basically pointless the encryption is

02:50:48.290 --> 02:50:54.530
Fine when it comes to sort of stifling mass surveillance, maybe but as far as like if you're a targeted individual

02:50:54.530 --> 02:50:59.330
Yeah, it doesn't you're you're basically being um anybody who's advertising

02:50:59.330 --> 02:51:06.130
I just I could see where it's like how targeted are you like if like if

02:51:06.690 --> 02:51:12.730
The Manchester police try to track your phone and it's encrypted and they hit a wall and they don't have access to like

02:51:12.730 --> 02:51:13.610
they're the

02:51:14.490 --> 02:51:15.690
Yeah, I mean so

02:51:16.590 --> 02:51:20.230
So I do have a pretty good understanding of some of the stuff so the

02:51:21.270 --> 02:51:21.710
The

02:51:22.450 --> 02:51:26.490
Your your government agents even at much higher level not not your local law enforcement

02:51:26.490 --> 02:51:32.070
They don't have access to this kind of technology, right? They might request that the higher ups do it possibly but the

02:51:32.650 --> 02:51:36.930
They're not going to use something like this against you and me generally speaking. I mean

02:51:38.130 --> 02:51:42.610
Maybe possibly but probably all right. So most people they're not going to use this against like some random criminal

02:51:43.070 --> 02:51:48.570
Um, but the type of people they will use this against in particular are drug kingpins, especially like in mexico

02:51:48.570 --> 02:51:52.870
Yeah, the vice chancellor of germany. They probably use this against not that long ago

02:51:52.870 --> 02:51:58.410
It was a public case that was revealed, right? Isn't that what it's called? Um, that was one of the names for

02:51:58.990 --> 02:52:03.790
The same idea of the system. Yeah, I don't know specifically how it entangles

02:52:03.790 --> 02:52:07.050
I don't necessarily think that is connected to this necessarily. Um, specifically

02:52:07.690 --> 02:52:13.390
Um, there's very little information out there though on this. Um, like these back doors basically into our phones

02:52:13.390 --> 02:52:16.850
Um, but it's just like the way the technology works

02:52:16.850 --> 02:52:25.530
And the other thing is like the FCC the federal communication commission actually prohibits the source code release for the like the firmware that goes into the

02:52:25.530 --> 02:52:35.010
Uh modems for for what's used in these devices. So there's there's like ways there's hacks to sort of turn your modem off on some phones

02:52:35.010 --> 02:52:41.910
Um, there's something called the pine phone. Um, if you if you want a device that actually like you actually can be like protect yourself against some of this

02:52:41.910 --> 02:52:45.450
Um, and basically the pine phone has a little what's called dip switches

02:52:45.450 --> 02:52:48.870
You probably haven't heard of these unless you're like living in the 80s or early 90s

02:52:48.870 --> 02:52:54.950
But yeah, so basically the switch these dip switches basically disconnect the power from the modem part

02:52:54.950 --> 02:52:58.570
Most phones it's all integrated. So you can't even do this with but with the pine phone

02:52:58.570 --> 02:53:01.670
They use separate modem um from the like sort of the the rest of the device

02:53:01.670 --> 02:53:05.650
So like that's basically the only device out there. Um, other than one other

02:53:05.650 --> 02:53:09.270
Product that's from a company that's very malicious. So I won't recommend there. I won't even mention his name

02:53:09.270 --> 02:53:13.290
But um, but basically a pine phone is like one of the few devices on the market that you can actually

02:53:13.750 --> 02:53:17.130
If you want actually have like some sort of secure communication with

02:53:17.510 --> 02:53:22.650
Um, pretty much everything else is potentially backdoor. Like if I was the vice president of um,

02:53:22.650 --> 02:53:26.550
The vice chancellor in Germany. Can the pine phones modem not get updated?

02:53:27.430 --> 02:53:30.630
Um, yeah, if I have to switch on no, it can then they can update it

02:53:30.630 --> 02:53:33.770
And I'm sure they should be able to update that but

02:53:34.330 --> 02:53:39.170
You could turn the modem off so they can't track so they can't read what's going on on your phone

02:53:39.170 --> 02:53:43.090
Oh and because the modem the memory is separate they can't they can't um

02:53:43.090 --> 02:53:45.410
The modem can't read the memory of the main core device of the encryption

02:53:45.410 --> 02:53:49.390
That makes sense because you compartmentalize the memory exactly. Oh, yeah

02:53:49.390 --> 02:53:53.250
Yeah, and that's what makes it basically the most potentially secure device in the world

02:53:53.250 --> 02:53:55.370
See this is more interesting to me than the whole

02:53:55.370 --> 02:54:03.490
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From feature story news in washington i'm tony waterman

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According to new york time sources president donald trump is reviewing an option to send american forces into iran to carry out raids

02:56:29.230 --> 02:56:35.070
It's unclear if those raids would target government officials or even the supreme leader

02:56:35.070 --> 02:56:42.630
The option carries new weight after u.s. Forces captured venezuelan president nicolas maduro earlier this month

02:56:42.630 --> 02:56:48.150
A strike fleet has already been positioned near iran and u.s. Officials say the military

02:56:48.150 --> 02:56:51.430
Is ready to carry out any orders from the president

02:56:51.430 --> 02:56:59.750
Trump is demanding iran end its nuclear program and stop killing demonstrators if it wants to avoid u.s. Military action

02:56:59.750 --> 02:57:09.190
iran's foreign minister said on friday that tyron will not negotiate under threat and that its defense system will never be up for negotiation

02:57:10.150 --> 02:57:16.450
President trump has nominated kevin warsh a banking executive to head the u.s. Central bank

02:57:16.450 --> 02:57:24.330
Warsh was widely expected to secure the nod and is believed to share the president's desire to see us interest rates fall

02:57:24.330 --> 02:57:27.710
More rapidly fsn's simon marx reports

02:57:29.010 --> 02:57:36.630
President trump has been hinting for days at the possibility that kevin warsh is his choice to replace jerome powell as the chairman of the fed

02:57:36.630 --> 02:57:40.090
Now he's confirmed it over his social media account

02:57:40.090 --> 02:57:44.930
The president said he expects mr. Warsh to go down as one of the great fed chairman

02:57:44.930 --> 02:57:52.630
Maybe the best the president described his selection as coming from central casting a possible reference to mr. Warsh's clean cut

02:57:52.910 --> 02:57:55.730
Professional appearance but also to his background

02:57:55.730 --> 02:58:00.450
He's a former fed governor and a senior figure at the investment bank morgan stanley

02:58:00.450 --> 02:58:06.610
Certainly president trump is hoping that mr. Warsh will prove loyal to his demands for lower interest rates

02:58:06.630 --> 02:58:10.990
Though when the president's selection faces confirmation hearings on capitol hill

02:58:10.990 --> 02:58:18.750
Many lawmakers will want to know whether he's willing to protect the central bank's independence or make it a political arm of the trump administration

02:58:19.470 --> 02:58:26.750
Former cnn anchor don lemond is in custody after being arrested in connection with his reporting during the recent

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Minneapolis ice protests the 59 year old's lawyer says mr. Lemond has done nothing wrong

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And insists he is protected by the first amendment of the u.s. Constitution

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FSN's mitch mccann reports

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The charges that the justice department chose to file were not immediately clear

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But don lemond's lawyers says they will be fought vigorously in court

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The former tv anchor was arrested in los angeles on thursday where he was there to cover the grammy awards

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It's reported the arrest is in relation to mr. Lemond's coverage of an ice protest that took place inside a miniapolis church in recent weeks

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It's reported that following the protest a federal judge initially declined to sign off on an arrest warrant for mr. Lemond

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Former colleagues and lawmakers have defended the broadcaster

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From bureaus worldwide

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This is fsn with fsn spotlight i'm simon marx ending the week with a very sober warning about the rapidity of developments in the field of

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Artificial intelligence a new poll this week showed that more than a quarter of all workers in britain fear

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They will lose their jobs to ai in the next five years and this week alone amazon announced a further 16 000 job losses

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Mainly in america because of ai this was the week when jeffrey hinton the so-called godfather of ai

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Predicted that virtually every single job on the planet is going to be replaced by the industry that he now regrets having sparked

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Already we're seeing um starting jobs in many professions like lawyers being taken over by ai

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Most experts believe that sometime within the next 20 years quite possibly within 10 years will have super intelligence

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Something better than us and that will be able to do any new job that's created

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It'll be all of them

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The big tech companies are thinking if we can be the first to get really good ai human level ai

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We can make a lot of money

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Selling ai to companies so that they can replace workers

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As far as i can see that's the only place they can get the huge investments back

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Um, they're not thinking about the social consequences of that. They're assuming somehow the state will take care of it

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But i don't see how it can what does all that mean for youngsters trying to position themselves for the future

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jeffrey hintons got ideas for them and you'll hear those on monday

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And a recap of today's headlines the new york times is reporting that president trump is reviewing an option to send

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us troops into iran for targeted raids

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President trump has nominated banking exec kevin warsh to head the us central bank like trump warsh says interest rates should be lower

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Former cnn anchor don levin has been arrested in connection with his reporting during minneapolis ice protests

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That's feature story news. Tony waterman reporting

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If you're the parent of a manchild you know how frustrating it can sometimes be

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The piercing sound of his video games waking you up at 2 in the morning

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His insatiable hunger and inability to cook anything for himself the messes he makes the stress can be overwhelming

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Something will set them off

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Such as their manchild will tell them that they don't know how to tie a tie even though they're almost 30

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They'll start shaking them and shaking them and yelling and saying what the hell is wrong with you

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Why don't you get a real job instead of working part-time at a board game store

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The results of shaken manchild syndrome are devastating

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Trauma caused by the brain colliding with the inside of the manchild's skull can lead to cognitive disabilities

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Making it even more unlikely. He'll finally marry the girl

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He's been having a long distance online relationship with for six years or it can even lead to death

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He's not spilling cereal all over the couch or leaving his beard clippings in the bathroom sink intentionally

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He truly does not know what he's doing for the lab report. I'm steward adams

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This is rallyo bill free it will talk it live

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We'll talk it live. I don't know if you said it like that. No, I didn't say exactly like that, but maybe I should have

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well

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the other day on twitter I was

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I saw a chat

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I mean a tweet where somebody said

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that the robots are

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Scheming against us and they put put this

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Picture of a forum where apparently robots are talking amongst each other like ai's

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I don't know if I believe it because anyone could go on ai

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and say hey write this

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Thing that looks like you're plotting against us. Oh, yeah, and it's easy to do these days. I was

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Literally 15 minutes ago. I was talking with one of my best friends and sometimes we'll just get on the phone and

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uh

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Just talk to each other for like two hours because we live on other sides of the country

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so we'll just like

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You know do a catch up and uh, he was talking to me. We got on to the subject of youtube

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And uh, he hit me with a crazy idea

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Um, he thinks youtube has already been under the control of an ai for quite some time

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And that's why the the shadow banning and it almost seems like arbitrary

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Like I'll comment something

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Um, and I can see it but nobody else can and I'll comment the same kind of comment on a different post and it'll pop up

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And it'll be visible

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Huh interesting. What do you?

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Mean you'll be how do you know you're the only one that can see your comment on youtube?

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Well, I can't prove it. Um, but uh, it's just I mean I'm not saying anything like that outlandish

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And there'll be like other comments that get interactions and I can still see my

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Comment that was posted like on my end

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But it's obviously not showing up to other people

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Um, because other people are saying the exact same things I am and then they'll get responses. Does that make sense?

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It'll be like a arbitrary shadow ban

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Yeah, I've always thought that the comment section on youtube is weird to like to your point

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Um, I comment on something and I feel that oh i'm commenting like super late

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There's probably if I was this youtuber, I would have like muted responses or you know muted

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Not not be checking at least the comments by now and for some reason I'll get like tons of likes on there

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Which is like it doesn't even matter because it's youtube like you're not

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To me. It's not social media to me. It's like you barely know who anybody else is

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I mean there's no way to know and it's not like you get paid like twitter if you get

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Likes

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Um, but I'm just it's just something I've noticed and then every once in a while

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I'm like oh this video just got posted and I have something like really

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Relevant in in landing to say in like just no one ever likes it at all and like yeah people who commented around the same time

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We're saying but I've always just kind of thought

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People are dumb

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well, I think people are

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They're just like that just works too well. He just kind of posited the idea that

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um, like we have access to chat gpt and like these large language models, um, but

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We've had access to other stuff probably for a while and it just kind of begins as a large language model

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uh

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Like how google kind of trained their ai at first with uh, like search results like top search results

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Um was kind of like the beginnings of like the llms

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um, and my friend was just saying it feels like

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Something they they kind of integrated an ai into youtube

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uh

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Maybe around like 2019 that's just completely destroyed it and that's why youtube's like unusable because

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The ai is out of their control and if they take it out, it's like ingrained itself into the

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I like the dna of the website. There are also ai channels on youtube that are actually I can hear that they're done by ai

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Oh, yeah, and it's like how on earth did you get on youtube and they have 300 000 views on the video

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I know it's like what the heck is going on here. It's like they're promoting the ai videos

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Why are you specifically saying that it's unusable like I've used youtube unusable

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It's just that the youtube of today compared to like 2010 is totally different. It's been told. I think it's been co-opted

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Um, I mean there's been like mass purges several mass purges on youtube for a long time. Yeah, that's