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Yeah, let's do this.

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Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.

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Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time to step out onto the high wire.

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Well, last week we're obviously bathing in all the success that we've had on the conversations

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around freedom, mandates, vaccinations, but the pundits keep going and the news keeps going

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and they keep screaming and yelling about how dangerous it is that we should have choice

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over six of the vaccines that were just moved into shared decision-making,

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meaning between me and my doctor. It's kind of amazing to watch it, but in case,

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for some reason, you've been under a rock, this is what that's looked like.

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Big new changes for the childhood immunization schedule. This dropped yesterday.

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The CDC is dropping the recommended 18 vaccinations down to 11 instead.

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This is a big change and I think it's going to potentially cause a lot of confusion.

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What they have done is sown a lot of uncertainty, doubt, fear, and so a lot of parents are

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going to be confused. This is going to decrease vaccine confidence,

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more burden on providers, not what we need right now.

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The American Academy of Pediatrics calls today's recommendations

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dangerous and says it can continue to give their own recommendations.

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Changing the pediatric vaccine schedule based on no scientific input on safety risks

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and little transparency will cause unnecessary fear for patients and doctors

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and will make Americans sicker. These sorts of things so distrust in vaccines and the

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minute that you have a question and somebody says to you, okay, you can go and think

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about it. You are going to take that opportunity to go and potentially think about it and never come back.

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What I find interesting about this, and it's something that I talk about rarely,

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which is why did I get so focused on the vaccine issue at all? I mean, I had a

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perfectly great job at CBS as a producer or an Emmy-winning producer of the day.

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Time talks for the doctors. But as I looked into this vaccine issue and of course,

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went on to make the documentary vaxed, what was fascinating were all the issues around

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this and especially because I grew up a progressive liberal. My parents marched in the 1960s for

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freedom of choice to choose what university, to have total freedom of speech. That's what it meant

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to me to be a liberal. So when I started looking at this issue and realizing this isn't really

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about health, this is about an authoritarian government having control over my body,

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the bodies of my children. Of course, we're in the middle of SB 277, a law that was going

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to take away anyone's right to an education. The taxpayer money that we were paying didn't

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matter. You had to be fully vaccinated based on what the pharmaceutical industry had sort of

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convinced the CDC was the best way forward. And that then separated us from what I think

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is the founding fathers declaration or mandate to have freedom in this nation. It flies in the

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face of that. And you know, I often think back, you know, this really comes down to do we trust

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the American public to make decisions? That whole news montage shows you this is going to

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cause fear. This is the one of the most dangerous things ever done, meaning it's dangerous to

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give American people the right to choose, to give them information and let them decide what

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they want to do with their children and their bodies. And remember, you know, we are

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somewhat copying the Denmark schedule at a chicken pox, but what we didn't copy is Denmark

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trusts its people to make the right decision. And they allow them the right to choose vaccination.

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So there's Germany, these other nations. So why is it that the one nation that, you know,

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yells the loudest is supposed to be the beacon of freedom for the entire world

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is one of the few nations that forces through authoritarian mandate this product in order

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to walk through life? It's really shocking. And I think about our founding fathers because

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certainly this was a question. Are the American is our population too stupid to make decisions

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for themselves? I mean, it really is the bedrock of freedom. If we're to be free, we have to

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allow everyone to be free. And certainly that was a hotly contested idea. Our founding

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fathers thought, should we only allow landowners to be the ones that vote? Because

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certainly that would mean they're probably better educated. They're educated enough to know how to,

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you know, raise money and buy a farm and run a farm. If we only have them vote for who's president,

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then we get an intelligent electorate that decides the future of this nation.

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But our founding fathers decided, you know what, this is a nation of foreign buy all the people.

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We're going to trust those that maybe don't even have the high school education. I mean,

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imagine. I mean, of all the times if we think, if we're worried that the people, our constituents,

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and our neighbors here in America, you know, lack the ability to vote for a good president,

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can you imagine what it was like back when a high school and college education were rare?

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Can you imagine what they were surrounded by there? And even then they looked out at the

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peasants and said, they should vote too. So at the heart of this, as I watch these news

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agencies fight for how dangerous it is to give people the right to choose, I think what they're

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really fighting for is the right to have an authoritarian government destroy our constitutional

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rights. To watch all of mainstream news say we stand for authoritarianism is what I think is

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happening here. If you want to question me on that, let's just talk about this term

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anti-vaxxer. If you look at anti-vaxxer in Webster's dictionary, it's a person

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opposed to the use of vaccines or regulations mandating vaccination. That's actually a change

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that's been made over time. But that's it. If you simply want to delay one vaccine or skip

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one vaccine, you are an anti-vaxxer. You realize what I think that they're making

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a huge mistake here because what they're doing is labeling millions and millions of Americans

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that simply believe they had the right to choose a pejorative like anti-vaxxer. Essentially,

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my understanding is somewhere between eight or nine out of 10 people that are currently

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eligible for the COVID vaccine in America aren't getting their booster. That means that 80 to

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90% of those that once believed in the COVID vaccine program are now opting for their right

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to choose. Are they anti-vaxxers? If there's a mandate, should they have to take it? Do they not

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want to live in a nation where they get the right to choose? Whether they think a ninth or tenth

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booster shot makes any sense whatsoever. Certainly, I believe if you ask them and they're not

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getting that tenth booster, they might say things like, geez, if I'm not immune for this

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thing by now, then make a better product. But I wouldn't be happy being mandated with

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this vaccine. And I think more and more Americans are moving in that direction saying I should have

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the right to choose. So in the end, this issue is to me only just partly about health.

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This is the tip of the spear when we talk about freedom. Because if you do not control your

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own body, if you do not control the bodies of your children as parents, then you are not

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a free citizen. There's no way to say that you are. In fact, I've said over and over again,

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you have about the same exact rights as a farm animal. And that is apparently what most of

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mainstream news believes, that that should be your way of being. And let's be clear,

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what risk is it for you to delay a vaccine or not take a vaccine? Are we going to mandate

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things for your own good? Or is it for the good of people? I mean, I think that most of the time we

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should only think about, are we hurting someone else? And in this case, now that so many vaccines

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are proving to not stop transmission, the argument that you're protecting your neighbor is now

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dead. In fact, the definition of a vaccine has changed. It no longer protects your neighbor,

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it just protects you, which means it should be my choice. So as we watch this debate roll

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out, as we watch Robert Kennedy Jr. and the support of Donald Trump and all the great doctors that

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are around Robert Kennedy Jr. fighting for your freedom, you should ask yourself about the news

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agencies that are fighting for authoritarianism. And remember, even if you're a liberal,

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one of the great liberal voices had this to say, we are not afraid to entrust the American

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people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values.

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For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market

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is a nation that is afraid of its people. John F. Kennedy, we've allowed a corporate infrastructure

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to take control of decisions in our government, not only have they pushed for a mandate that

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other nations do not have, nations that we consider to be even more authoritarian than

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our own. On top of that, once they got us to be mandated to take these products, then they said,

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and we don't want to have any liability whatsoever. So if it injures you, sorry,

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you're out of luck. You want to talk about the most ridiculous system ever built in a nation

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that says it's supposed to be free? That's it. And it's crumbling down,

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and it's going to continue to crumble because I believe human beings ultimately are intelligent,

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and we should trust our neighbors. If we get back to that place, we'll get back to being

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the shining beacon of light and freedom and hope and faith that makes this nation great.

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We're going to talk more about this. We're going to talk about your right to choose

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what blood that if you need an infusion, should you get to choose where your blood comes from,

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or should that also be a right that's taken away from you? I'm going to be talking about that,

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but first it's time for the Jackson Report. We were just sitting, Jeffrey, in the meeting

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yesterday talking about this show with the team, and what would it mean to say that

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mission accomplished? I think about when we started this out. After Vax,

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we started the informed consent action network. We started the high wire. You came in,

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we started reporting on this, and it really came down to the conversation we have around the nation.

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It would be once we are back to freedom, once we have got freedom of choice on all vaccinations,

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and frankly, liability is back on the manufacturer. Once we've restored the free market forces

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that make products great and give American people that right to choose that they were born

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with, then in many ways, I think we could move on to greener pastures and other conversations,

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and in some ways, Jeffrey, it feels like we're getting really close to that moment.

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Yeah, and there is still some unanswered questions. During the COVID response,

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which is roughly since vaccines started going into arms,

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roughly six years ago in the United States with the COVID shot,

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we still really don't know how many people have been harmed by that shot. We hear a

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lot of studies saying it saved the world and the pandemic. It ended it because we had the COVID shot

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and we've shown studies that refuted that point, but there's not a lot of studies showing how many

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people are hurt by this coerced, mandated shot. And what we have to do is we have to rely on a

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reporting system bears vaccine adverse event reporting system that is really not a robust

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reporting system, although we're told it is, but we know it's not. So we look at headlines

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like this with interest. This is a Rasmussen report, a telephone poll where people were called. This

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is human intelligence. This is how people talk. They get a telephone call and here's the headline,

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millions experience COVID-19 vaccine side effects. And it says more than a third of Americans who

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were vaccinated against COVID-19 say they had side effects from the shot and nearly half

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suspect the vaccines killed many patients. It goes on to get a little more fine-tuned here.

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It says, however, 26% say that minor side effects and 10% reported major side effects from the vaccine.

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Okay. Now stay with me here. This is kind of a back of a napkin calculation, but we have to have

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approximations here because there's not really any great studies showing this. We just keep

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hearing bears is great. It catches everything. It's the best in the world. Go back to, you

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know, the COVID pandemic is over. You can go back to your normal lives, but there's still

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a lot of people suffering from this COVID shot. We know this. And so let's take some really broad

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approximations from this Rasmussen report and overlay it on the bears and see if we can figure

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something out. So in this Rasmussen report, they called almost 1300 people and of those adults

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that answered the phone, about 68% of them said they had been vaccinated during the COVID

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pandemic with the COVID vaccine. So at the time of this report, there's about 258 million adults

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in the US of this Rasmussen report. So about 68% of that. So about 175.4 million. So again,

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total approximations here, people are going to tear this part, but that's fine because that's all we

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have. Now let's go to bears. So we have of that 175.4 million adults who received a COVID shot.

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We go to bears. How many of them really reported what would be considered a serious

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side effect? Well, serious side effect, as you can see from open bears, you would probably

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be hospitalizations. You get the shot, you find yourself in the hospital for an extended

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state, not knowing what the heck just happened. That would probably be a serious side effect.

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So let's choose that 221,872. So here we go. Stay with me here. You take that 175.4 million

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adults who received that COVID vaccine. And according to Rasmussen, according to those

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phone calls, and you take those hospitalizations from bears, 221,872, and you get about 0.13%

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of those people ended up with a serious side effect. According to bears reporting,

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now this is all to see how robust is bears. How much is bears catching? Is it catching

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everything? So you have 0.13%. Well, Rasmussen poll, because we're going to compare it to

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that with these random telephone calls, said 10% of people said that they had a serious reaction.

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So you take 10%, you divide that by that 0.13%. Bears is under reporting at a rate of about 77

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times when it comes to major side effects. And the caveat to this, again, this is very broad

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strokes on these calculations, but the caveat to this is those hospitalizations that we chose

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for bears, that was children and adults. So we actually gave bears some help on this one.

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We over calculated how many reports were coming in, and even by doing that, 77 times

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under reporting. And remember, Harvard Pilgrim did the study, and they said less than 1%

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is what bears probably was catching before COVID of the vaccine schedule, the flu shot,

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the childhood vaccine schedule. So again, anytime we do these calculations,

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bears never comes in over reporting. In fact, it comes in massively under reporting in this case,

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77 times. You know, it's interesting because I mean, you know, I remember when you were

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bringing this up and we're looking at, you know, where is bears at? It's under 1% reported.

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If we're going to go with what Rasmussen says there, which is super interesting,

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what's fascinating about that article is, you know, remember, we were reporting somewhere

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between 40% and 50%, depending on the poll, we're saying they knew someone that they thought

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had died from the COVID vaccine. But to add in that one third think they're injured and 10%

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think that they've gotten a serious injury from it. That is a massive, massive number.

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But I remember when we won the V-safe data, and you know, this is the data, this is the app

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that the CDC created to track any sort of vaccine injury. And we built the portal in

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people can still go check this out at icandeside.org. But if you pull up that portal and you could

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search it any way you want to, what we ended up seeing with those numbers was that it was about,

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I believe, was like 7, 7.5% somewhere in that zone that we're having serious adverse events.

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And up to 30% were visiting doctors or missing school or, you know, in some way it was

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altering their life. And that actually goes really closely with what Rasmussen is reporting here.

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And again, data that we only have, Jeffrey, because of Aaron Seary and millions of dollars

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spent to both get to the Pfizer data, which the FDA wanted to hide for 75 years, would be in

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hiding for 75 years if it weren't for the work that ICAN does. The Moderna data is available

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to the public because of the work that we do here. But that v-safe data, which anyone can read

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through and go through our dashboard, which is super interesting, you can see that too.

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But again, what we're seeing is what has been reported. Harvard has said in their, you know,

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experience when they were tasked, like I think they paid, were paid a million dollars

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to investigate it, bears is capturing less than 1% of the total amount of injuries.

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There's that study that does that. And so, you know, and this matters.

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This matters when you're going to rush a totally experimental product onto all the

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population and have your president of the United States say everyone's going to have to get it,

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or they can't go to work, or they can't go to school, or they can't get on plane.

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It matters that your one major capture system is so flawed and that you want to hide your

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v-safe system and you want to hide your Pfizer data and your Moderna data. This is what I

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think America is waking up to and why we're seeing such change, you know, as we're moving along

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now. Right. And so we just want to be adults. Let's talk about children.

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So here's a headline somewhat recently out of the Atlantic. Yes, some children may have died

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from COVID shots. Well, we've come a long way since safe and effective or, you know,

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anti-vaxxers have a crazy conspiracy that the COVID shots may kill people.

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We're actually getting these headlines that from legacy media outlets that they're admitting

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this. And this brings us to a study out of Spain. And this study found something

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kind of accidentally. They were looking at the safety and the effectiveness of the COVID mRNA

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vaccines in children ages six to 11. And they used the entire population database of Madrid's health

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system. And they looked at it really during the hot years of the pandemic around May 2021

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to December 2022. So a lot of deaths going on there. And remember, they rushed these vaccines

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into children's arms. There is typically unanimous voting from Virbac, from ASIP,

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to both these in, despite massive problems, despite the fact that children were not

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dropping like flies from COVID. So this study looks at that time period. It looks at a lot of

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children. And where did they find no deaths attributable to COVID-19 occurred? Now let's

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look at the numbers because there's some questions here. I'm sure people are watching

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going, well, this is a vaccinated study. So isn't that proving that? You can say that.

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But let's look at the image here from the study. This is the table. Vaccinated 183,273,

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the controls. So they chose five times the controls of basically unvaccinated compared to

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vaccinated for six to 11 year old and 12 to 17 year old. So you add up those controls. It's

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about 2.7 million children. And if you go into this study, it says during the follow-up period,

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a certain percentage of those children in those controls received one vaccination.

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And so bottom line is about one, almost 1.4 million children in this study. And they're

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monitoring them for hospitalization, for mortality. No children died. You would think if they

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hit the dartboard, you know, they threw a dart like that with that many children. If this,

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if COVID was as dangerous, we are told that every child, every child had to get this shot,

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every infant had to get the shot. In fact, the West Coast Alliance and East Coast Alliance

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are still making their own recommendations to put them in the arms of infants. As we speak right now,

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you think that they would have captured a death or two in this just by a blind chance and they

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did not. And so that brings us kind of to the next question. We talk about the reporting

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systems, but there's people that are injured from this. There's children that are injured

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from this, myocarditis and the list goes on. You can look and what are we doing here in

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the United States? Well, we have the countermeasures injury compensation program. It pays out

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almost nothing to people that have been injured. It was never meant for a pandemic. It was that

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reporting system and a compensation system never meant for that. And we have, we have basically

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trying to move that into something else to get compensation. But in the UK, as of last week,

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they're putting forward bills in their parliament to try and get compensation for their citizens.

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Here's one of them, COVID-19 vaccine damage payments bill. And you go into and read about

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this. It says a bill to place a duty in the Secretary of State to make provisions

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about financial assistance to persons who have suffered dis, dis, disablement following vaccination

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against COVID-19 and the next can of persons who have died shortly after vaccination. So that's what

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the UK is doing. What's the US doing? And I want to bring people to a time really quickly because

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there's a lot of polarization out there with RFK Junior at the head of HHS. There's a lot of

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people thinking the vaccination schedule should have stayed the way it was, should have continued

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to be mandated without giving informed consent and choice to parents and children. So

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I want to talk about both camps. We have the camp of informed consent. We have the people that

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kind of want the old guard back. We'll call it now. I call it the Dark Ages of Medicine now,

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so it seems like we're turning the page. And that's represented by people like Stanley Plotkin,

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Walter Ornstein. These are legacy researchers who laid the groundwork for the current

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vaccination program over decades of research and vaccine development that

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we have lived under until Kennedy took office. Well, they wrote a paper.

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Well, before we get to that, to be clear, if someone happens to be watching the show for the

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first time, our own Aaron Siri, the lawyer that brings all of our cases, went and represented us

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and had a deposition of Dr. Stanley Plotkin, who is considered to be the reigning godfather

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of our vaccine program, was a nine-hour deposition. You can find excerpts of that

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in the entire thing at thehighwire.com, just search for the Plotkin deposition.

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But under that deposition, he admitted things like lack of safety testing and things like that.

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He was caught off guard, was not ready for it. And in our own FOIA requests,

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we found requests to CDC and FDA that Dr. Stanley Plotkin then reached out to

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Walter Ornstein and others that are the heads of the departments inside the United States

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of America and their health system saying, I just had a very uncomfortable experience with

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a lawyer, essentially. And we have to start preparing ourselves for the argument they're

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making. I wasn't prepared. So very interesting. I think it sets up this article that you're

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about to describe. Absolutely. And so this article, and just put it in context, this was in

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summer of 2024, July, to be specific. Robert F. Kennedy didn't drop out of the presidential

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race until a month later in August. So Kennedy was not at HHS. He wasn't talking about going to HHS.

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He wasn't really even talking about vaccines. In fact, I remember when he was running for

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president, he did an interview, a couple of podcasts, and he said, you know what,

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I'm not talking about vaccines anymore, because I'm running for president. There's

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also other issues that I want to talk about. So it wasn't really on the docket.

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And out of the woodwork comes Stanley Plotkin. When Stanley Plotkin speaks,

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a lot of people in medicine listen. And he published this study in the New

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England Journal of Medicine, not a small journal talking about vaccine safety science.

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I piqued her interest. This is what we had to say about it. He said, the widespread vaccine hesitancy

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observed during the COVID-19 pandemic suggests that the public is no longer satisfied with

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traditional safety goal of simply detecting and quantifying the associated risks of a vaccine

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after a vaccine has been authorized for use. The public also wants public health authorities

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to mitigate and prevent rare but serious adverse reactions, which no longer seem rare

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when vaccines are given to millions or billions of people. Huh, it kind of sounds like the

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entire group of people that helped Kennedy ascend to his presidency and into office.

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Sounds like he's one of them. He's actually saying because millions and billions of people

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are having these rare side effects, they kind of add up. And we need better safety science.

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And he goes on to say this, identifying the biologic mechanisms of adverse reactions,

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how and in whom they occur is critical for developing safer vaccines, preventing

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adverse reactions by expanding contraindications and equitably compensating

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vaccines for true adverse reactions. Kennedy himself couldn't say it any better.

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It's really amazing. I want to really drill down on this because these things can fly up.

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Bring up that last paragraph because this is what we're arguing. This is what mainstream

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keeps arguing. We have identified. We know everything about the vaccine. You don't. Here's the

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God for the vaccine saying, you know what we should do? We should be identifying the

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biological mechanisms of adverse reactions, meaning we know they exist. They have to be

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happening. You know, we study rare diseases. Why don't we study rare injuries from vaccines?

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Why aren't we giving it the same concern instead of gaslighting people and saying that

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this doesn't happen? And I want to go back to the original paragraph because I think it's

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critical as you fly through that sometimes like, Oh, would that really mean? But however,

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the widespread vaccine hesitancy observed during the COVID-19 pandemic suggests that

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the public is no longer satisfied with the traditional safety goal of simply detecting

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and quantifying the associated risks after a vaccine has been authorized for use.

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That should have been bolded when you read that. What they're saying is what we have

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proven. There are no placebo trials of any of the childhood vaccines that was totally

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acceptable back in the day by Stanley Plotkin and Walter Ornstein. But now as it turns

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out, because of Jeffrey Jackson and Robert Kennedy Jr. and Dell Baytree and others like us saying,

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you know, why are we doing safety tests like we do on every other drug we take? I guess we're

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going to have to start doing those safety tests and figuring out before the vaccine is being

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injected and mandated on every child and, you know, with COVID every adult. So it's amazing.

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You're right. It's actually what good science is supposed to be in that article also says the

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only reason we didn't do it is we didn't have the funding. I mean, you're talking about an industry

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that makes a hundred billion dollars on the COVID vaccine doesn't have the funding to do proper safety

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tests like they do on every other drug. But now that we have someone at HHS, to your point,

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doing exactly what Dr. Stanley Plotkin would have done himself, he needs to be torn down.

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Oh my God, this guy is a danger and a menace to society because he's actually

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got Marty McRee saying we're not going to prove any more vaccines

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without a placebo trial. And you're going to have to prove that the flu shot

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actually stops the flu that that season has to offer. And God forbid this be happening. This is

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why we're winning this argument, Jeffrey. It's why we're going to continue to win,

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why I think it's going to affect elections from here to come, you know, until

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everyone gets on board with the fact that we all just want safety. And there's only

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one side that would prefer authoritarianism over safety.

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And, you know, behind closed doors, what this says is the both sides are intellectually

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shaking hands. They're patting each other on the back. They're saying,

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we know what direction we're going and let's walk there together. This is what

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they're saying. It's just a kumbaya moment. So let's, let's talk about the door. I will

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love when they actually come out in public and shake hands and Stanley Plotkin says,

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Bobby, thank God for you. Thank for you for getting the funding

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into what I wish we could have done all along. And for those people that are ringing their

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fists at Bobby Kennedy and what he's doing, they got bigger problems because it's not just

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a federal level and it's not to Bobby Kennedy. This is expanded to states. States rights and

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states are now moving along in lockstep with the U.S. government. One of those states is

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Florida and take a look at what they're doing now. New concerns about what's inside some

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of the most common baby formulas, a warning for Florida families. The state's been testing

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baby formula and some of the results are scathing. According to the Florida Department of Health,

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the state tested 24 infant formulas and 16 of them contained at least one heavy metal

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above federal safety standards. Mercury was found in all 16 of the samples that tested positive

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with three formulas showing three or more undesirable results. Casey DeSantis backed by

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husband Governor Ron DeSantis alongside Florida's Surgeon General, Dr. Joseph Lattapo,

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announcing test results Friday. Neurodevelopmental injury. We're talking about injury to your

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kidneys, to your lungs, to your livers, to other pretty much every organ in your body.

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The governor says this is just the beginning. That is part of their exposing food toxins

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initiative that they will be independently testing even more products in the near future.

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We want people to be able to make the best decision for them, not necessarily what would be

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in the best decision of some, you know, manufacturer or something like that.

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You know when I watch this, Jeffrey, I think about, like, what was it? What was it like

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six Surgeon Generals or something wrote a letter against Robert Kennedy Jr.,

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you know? And I'm like, oh, the same six that allowed poison toxic chemicals in our

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baby food. Never thought to test it for the United States of America like that.

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Like the same six that allowed arsenic in the baby food, which is one of the things that are

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finding mercury, petroleum dyes in our, you know, in our fruit loops, those same six Surgeon

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Generals. I mean, it's amazing to see. It's so exciting to live in a nation that is starting

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to act like the nation you believed you lived in. Unfortunately, this is just Florida,

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hopefully other states, but honestly, you know, our own federal government shouldn't be

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testing all of these things. Shouldn't this be a part of what it takes to get on the shelves?

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Was that not what the food and drug administration was supposed to be doing all this time?

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Right. And what's powerful about this is you have Florida doing these studies for the entire

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country. So they're kind of doing what the FDA should have been doing. And so, so in light

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of that, in respect to that, we're going to give this information as they are. We're going

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to present this to the rest of the country that are watching it. You can see if you go to

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exposingfoodtoxins.com. That's Florida's new website. And it's not just food. So you can see

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by this infographic, they're looking at the food industry, they're looking at big pharma,

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they're looking at nutrition and chronic disease and mental health and substance abuse. So

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this is a first of many, many things that they're going to be going after essentially and

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trying to really investigate. So you look at the scorecard here, and this is all the food

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with heavy metal, baby food with heavy metal contamination. So you can see there in the

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red, the M's, those are mercury's that are over the limit. You probably, you know, if you're looking

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to have your child, your infant not have mercury in this system, you're probably going to want to

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avoid these foods. Oh, it is just a small amount of mercury. And I'm sure it's fine.

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You know, forget that you're taking it, you know, you're feeding this stuff two,

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three times a day. Don't worry about it. It's just mercury. It's the safe,

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it's the safe form of mercury. And as the Surgeon General Lotpo said, these recommendations by the

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EPA, these standards that are set are for adults. So when they're talking about this is over for

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adults, obviously children have different systems, much more delicate systems. So

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just keep that in mind. So let's continue now because it seems like everywhere you look now,

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people are really concerned with the toxins and the chemicals in food.

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Here's Daily Mail. Here's an investigation they did. You might want to pay attention to this if

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you drink a bottle of water. This is Daily Mail Graphic reveals the bottle waters with the most

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cancer-causing forever chemicals. These are these PFAS chemicals. They do not degrade in the

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environment. They're around forever. And they give us this infographic here. We're going to go

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through these bottles individually. So 0.1 part per million per, I'm sorry per trillion is what

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is recommended by most health professionals. Anything over that, you're probably not

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going to want to ingest that into your system. A lot of issues this causes. Cancer is the big one,

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but there's a huge amount. So let's go into these bottles here. Topochico mineral water,

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that's a glass bottle, by the way, 3.9 parts per trillion. That's 39 times over the limit.

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Desani, 0.2 parts per trillion, two times over the limit. Smart water, same thing,

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two times over the limit. Aquafina, again, two times over the limit. Then we get to

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Perrier sparkling water, 1.7 parts per trillion, 17 times over the limit. Ascension alkaline water,

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0.2 parts per trillion, two times over the limit. Deer park, 1.21 parts per trillion, 12 times

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over the limit. And then we have Fiji water, 0.05. So that comes under the limit. It's the

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only bottled water that came under the limit there. And so Fiji water is the only one they

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tested. Not a lot of good odds there if they're just grabbing water off the shelf and testing

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them with these things. So something to keep, we have baby food, we have bottled water. There's a

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lot of other things that can be tested. We know that the environmental working group has done

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cereal and know moms cross America has done a lot of other things as well. So it's important to

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look at these to shape consumer behavior if you don't want these kind of things in your body

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or your children's body. And this is what Florida's doing. Any state can do this. Any

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state can do this testing. It's not very hard. It doesn't cost a lot of money.

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I want to point out just right now, Jeffrey Jackson, one of the great things that we do here in the

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High Wire is all you have to do is, you know, give us your email, which is right on the main

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page at the High Wire. And we send you the transcript to this entire show, every video,

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every article. You want to, oh, I didn't catch it. What bottles was it? You'll get the video,

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but you'll also get the actual documents themselves. There you just go scroll down

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the page where it says Brave Bowl news. Just put in your email. We don't share it with

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anyone else. And then usually by Monday of every week, you can get every single video,

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every single article, everything that we discussed. This is what, you know, sort of truth

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and transparency. This is our charter with the High Wire. We'd like every other news agency to do

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the same thing. Don't just tell us what the experts said. Show us your evidence. We are

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showing you our math every single week. And that's also because I don't want people to have

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to go out and say, well, Del Bigtree said or Jeffrey Jackson said, I want to be able to read

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the article. And frankly, the whole article, not just the excerpt that we took out. Go ahead and

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read the entire Stanley Plotkin letter slash study that he put together with Walter Ornstein.

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It's super interesting. And if you think you're, we're cherry picking, then call it out.

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That's what transparency is all about. That's what news and information is actually

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supposed to be about. We call it the High Wire protocol. And we're asking every

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single network and news agency in the world to adhere to the same principles.

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Show us your work. If someone says that there's a placebo trial, if you say it,

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prove it. Where is it? Post it? Print it. That's what we're doing on the High Wire.

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Now, I want to talk about a conversation that's a little forward-looking, but it's coming

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quick. We've been talking about this before, but this is this rapid rollout of artificial

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intelligence. And just to see if context, we came out of the COVID pandemic and AI was

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dropped in our lap. Coincidence? Who knows? Maybe history will show that, but it's dropped in

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our lap and all of a sudden it's aggressively accelerating into every aspect of our life.

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And we as citizens are going around, looking around going, wait a minute, this thing is

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moving really fast. We've got to have some big conversations here. One of them is about jobs,

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employment, and universal basic income. And an interesting point, Yvon Noel Harari,

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he is an historian. He's also really likes the WEF. He had a point that I want to really spotlight

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here. Take a listen. Okay. Now, you can think about the AI revolution as simply a wave of

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immigration of millions and billions of AI immigrants that will take people's jobs,

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that have very different cultural ideas and that might try to gain some kind of political power.

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And these AI immigrants, these digital immigrants, they don't need visas. They don't cross

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as a sea in some rickety boat in the middle of the night. They come at the speed of light.

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And I look, for instance, at far-right parties in Europe and they talk so much about the human

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immigrants, sometimes with justification, sometimes without justification. They don't talk almost

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at all about the wave of digital immigrants that is coming into Europe. And I think they

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should be much, if they care about the sovereignty of their country, if they care about

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the economic and cultural future of their country, they should be far more worried about the digital

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immigrants than about the human immigrants. I mean, it's a good point, right, like focus on

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the real issue. And it's a trippy thought, right, that for all the immigration and what it can

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do to jobs, what if it's millions of immigrants that I think you could argue have the intelligence

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of a nil-bill laureate and are going to work for less than minimum wage. And yet we're just all

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looking and complaining about other issues. And this one is, as he says, moving at light speed

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right now. Absolutely. And I want to read something that puts a fine point on it. In fact,

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I read this and it really stopped me in my place. So this is an article called The Great

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Decoupling. The title is White Collar Displacement Ignites 2026, UBI Firestorm. It

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says that the United States enters 2026. The long-predicted AI revolution has transitioned from

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a Silicon Valley slogan to a disruptive economic reality. For decades, automation was a specter

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haunting factory floors and warehouses. But the last 18 months have seen a dramatic shift

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towards the white collar cliff. This displacement has catapulted universal-based

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income from the fringe libertarian experiment to the center of its 2026 political agenda.

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It goes on to say that significance of this moment cannot be overstated. Unlike previous

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waves of automation that replace physical tasks, the current egentic era of AI targets the core

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of the middle-class professional identity, cognitive reasoning and project management,

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and specialized knowledge. As corporate earnings reach record highs due to AI-driven

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operational efficiency, while entry-level professional hiring has plummeted by nearly

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40% in some sectors, the debate over who owns the wealth generated by artificial

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intelligence has become the defining issue of the year. As we are given AI to transcribe our

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Zoom calls and make some better meme images with Google Gemini, corporations are using it to vastly

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accelerate their efficiency and thus take people out of the job market. The question is,

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are we stumbling into a universal-based income? We have the State of the Union

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address that's going to be on February 24th by President Trump, and a lot of people are looking

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forward to that and saying, is there going to be conversation about an AI dividend or something

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that's going to be given to the public, some kind of stipend or something because of this job

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displacement? That would really be the first specter of this universal basic income we're

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seeing. Again, I'm going to point to Florida here because we have a lot of governors and

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people that are standing up in politics and wanting a different change here. This is Governor DeSantis

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in Florida. He took the X. He said, why would people want to allow the human experience to

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be displaced by computers? As a creation of man, AI will not be divorced from the flaws of human

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nature. Indeed, it is more likely to magnify those flaws. It is dangerous.

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This issue, I think, is going to become more and more a major topic on the

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high wire because it's concerning me. I have a son that's 17 years old. He's a junior in high school.

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My daughter is 11 years old, and I'm trying to imagine what the future looks like for them.

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I'm trying to imagine, am I in the same position to guide my children forward for their careers

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and their ideas of who and what they want to be? Am I in the same position my parents were at?

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Because my son talks about perhaps being a lawyer. What freaks me out is really,

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I imagine they'll still be lawyers standing on floors of courtrooms, at least for the near future.

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But what about all the researchers? What about all the entry-level jobs coming in

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paralegals or all the work that you could do, whether it's an internship? Why is any lawyer

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going to bring on an intern to research other cases? Can you do some case studies on me

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when AI is going to do that better than anyone can imagine? How much of medicine is going

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to get wiped out? If your child wants to be a doctor, if the doctors mostly have become,

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you know, essentially agents for the pharmaceutical industry, almost, you know, how much of the

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medical profession is just, here's the drug for that problem. Here's the drug for your reaction

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to that drug for that problem. Oh, you have another problem. Here's the three drugs,

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and we know that's what's going on. AI can do that way better. It certainly,

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as well as any doctor, that job's gone. So to your point, all of these, what used to be what you

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wanted your child to go to school for, they seem to be the one, those careers are almost in the

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firing line more than a plumber, more than an auto mechanic at the moment. I know Elon's working

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on some robots to do that stuff. I don't know how far down the line, but I'm in a quandary

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right now on, you know, what is it I want my child to be good at? Right now, I'm like, you just

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better be good at surviving, being creative, being able to think outside the box to bob and weave,

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because your world is about to be decimated. And then you think about universal basic income.

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Let's just take away the greatest motivating factor all of us had that got us off of our bed,

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whether it was in college or after college or going out to get a job, and that's survival.

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You know, survival is what kept me alive in New York when I was, you know, trying to get that job

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waiting tables while I was pursuing a career in the arts, simply having to survive it. That was

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taken away. How many people lose really the will to fight or live? How much of this society will

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be what, smoking weed and playing video games? And I guess the great overlords will keep voting

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for them to get a raise to do that. More UBI for the people that aren't working. I don't buy it.

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Yeah. And what's it replaced by? That's the question. What's replaced? What replaces that drive?

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If in the monetary system is not perfect, I think you and I both agree on that,

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but what replaces that drive? Is it creativity? Is it some type of blissful life? Or is it

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more of a dependence on who's giving out the UBI, which is most likely going to be the

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government? And that's a recipe for disaster as we've seen throughout history.

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Yeah. Well, Jeffrey, I appreciate the reporting. Fantastic work. Again, I think there's going

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to be a super interesting year. So many things are moving really, really fast. And I love

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that you're just, you know, keeping it all eye, you know, eye in front of us. Let's not worry,

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you know, yeah, immigration, but what if immigration is coming light speed and it's

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coming after all of our jobs in a different form? We've got to keep our eyes on all of that.

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Great reporting. I look forward to talking to you next week. All right. Thank you.

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Right. Well, look, I say it at the top of this show. There are no sponsors for this show.

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You are our sponsors. This is an experiment in media. You know, much of my team, my executive

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producer came over from CBS where I worked on the daytime talks to the doctors. Our director

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of an inconvenient study came over from the doctors. We all had a dream. Imagine if what

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we were reporting, we could do something about it instead of just complaining about it.

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That's what this is. The informed consent action network doesn't just report to you.

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We get involved. We fight in courtrooms for places where we see an issue. We believe in

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your freedom. I'm not just saying I am complaining about the desire for authoritarianism by

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mainstream media. We are doing something about it. We funded the lawsuit that brought

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finally over years of fighting freedom to Mississippi and the right to choose.

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They can opt out based on a religious exemption in Mississippi, something that had been taken

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from them in the 1970s. We are deep in that fight now in West Virginia. We won the case.

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We won against all the lawyers there, but of course, Pharma and all the funding and God

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knows who's behind the 20 lawyers on the other side of the aisle are marching this straight

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in to appeal. We are in an appellate court now. The fight continues. In order for us to

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stand in that courtroom, remember, there's no money to be won here. These are not court cases

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that your average lawyer would take up. Frankly, no one thought anyone would fight for you

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because who's going to fight a lawsuit that doesn't pay us any money? Who could spend

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millions of dollars fighting for freedom? Where is that money going to come from?

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Well, that's what you've made possible. That is what the high wire is doing. That is what Aaron

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Siri is able to do. One of the greatest attorneys in the history of our Constitution in this nation

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we're America's public health watchdog. We have the Pfizer data, the book Pfizer Papers

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you're funding cable networks for them to lie to you and fight for authoritarianism.

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Don't you want someone fighting for your freedom and talking about every week?

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You just go to the highwire.com, go to the top of the page, donate to ICANN.

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You don't even know everything we're involved in. We can't even talk about all of it.

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And the lawsuits that are ongoing, 90 as we speak, we'll make it super easy. Just type in 72022

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work that we're doing here in Jeffrey Jackson and Aaron Ciri. You get to tap yourself on the

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shoulder and say, I did that every time we have a legal win. All right. Also, I want to

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By the way, if you're wearing a high wire shirt in an airport, I will come up to you and say

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point out, this is one of the favorites. It's one of my favorites. While AI is now studying

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everything you're doing, probably listening to you through your phone, even when you think it's

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on silent or you've got an airplane mode, who knows? This is a Faraday bag. And it's a great

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EMFs. Keep that out of your life. There's so many great things about this. It's a top seller,

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and you can get it right now at our store. Several years ago, in the middle of,

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actually, it was like April of 2021, I had a sort of surprising health scare. I was running

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all over talking about COVID, talking about these issues. Then I thought I caught COVID.

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I was really weak. I was having trouble walking across the room. Luckily,

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some friends of mine sort of forced me to go to a heart doctor. I didn't end up having a heart

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issue, but that heart doctor through blood tests discovered that my hemoglobin was down to 4.8.

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They said to me, I mean, I got an emergency call in the morning. It was a Thursday morning.

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I was supposed to be heading to the show in about an hour. I was not feeling very good,

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but I'm a guy that's like, the show must go on. I'm going to be there. This doctor said,

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you aren't going to any show. You need to get to an ER right away. You need emergency blood

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transfusions. Your hemoglobin should be somewhere between 13 and 17. You're at 4.8.

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Mandatory emergency infusions start if you're below, I think, 7 at the time. I was at 4.8.

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It was a serious emergency. I had an issue. I didn't want blood from people that had been

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vaccinated with the COVID vaccine. I don't want that spike protein in my body, that

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man-made, manipulated product that was never properly tested. Don't want it. Don't need it.

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Even though I was really on the verge of death, luckily a friend of mine called

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the blood bank here in Austin, and there was only, I think, it was seven total units. I'm

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B negative, which I guess is pretty rare. In all of Austin, only about seven units,

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and they don't track whether or not there was a COVID vaccine. Luckily, the person at Blood Bank

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made some calls and found one. By the course of the day, meanwhile, I was saying, well, look,

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I know people that have negative blood. My wife is O negative. I could get her blood.

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And here in Austin, Texas, they said, we can't process it fast enough. It would take 10 days

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to two weeks to process your wife's blood. I called a friend who has a clinic in

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down in Mexico in Cancun. I said, are they testing blood there? Do they know whether

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there's a COVID vaccine? He said, let me look into it. As it turns out, they were testing

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for it. Always amazing when they're more thorough than we are in the United States of America.

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And he said, and we can turn your wife's blood around in probably under four hours.

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So I flew to Mexico. My wife went with me and I went down and started getting transfusions in

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Mexico. Oh, a great headline. Top anti-vaxxers unhinged quest for unvaccinated blood leads

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into Mexico. Del, look at this, Del desperately needed transfusion, but first he had to

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track down the blood of a donor who hadn't been vaccinated. And his doctor friend in Mexico was

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ready to oblige. So it made headlines. It's weird the things that make headlines. But look at that.

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I mean, that dude right there didn't know he was dying, totally green, no oxygen moving

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through my blood. I think that's only four transfusions. I needed 10, about four in.

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I was feeling a heck of a lot better. But this is an issue. Should I have the right to

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have blood for my wife and people that I know? Should it take? Why is it that concierge medicine

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is much more available in Mexico than it is here in the United States of America? These are questions

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that are being asked right now. And they're very important for all of us, whether it's about

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a vaccine issue or some other blood issue may have. This is a recent hearing on a law in

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Texas. Take a look at this. Blood is not something most people think about until they need it. And

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yet one in 70 people will require a transfusion each year. So this is no small thing, especially if

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you have a chronic disease like these girls have or a condition that requires transfusions regularly.

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In situations where someone has a rare blood type or particular blood disease,

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often it can be difficult to find high quality blood that may be necessary for them to

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receive a transfusion. My daughter sitting here next to me were born with a rare blood

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disorder called beta thalassemia major. It's a disease where they do not make any blood of

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their own and they require transfusions every month for the rest of their lives. I was born

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in China with a disease called thalassemia. I had to live in an orphanage until my parents

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could come and bring me home. When I first got home I was really really sick. Every two

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weeks I had to go to the hospital to get blood. I still felt awful. But then we found some

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incredible donors who matched me exactly. I started getting super fresh blood.

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After I started getting blood from those wonderful people, everything got better.

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I was adopted from China when I was three years old. Sadly when I got adopted I was very sick

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because the orphanage I was in couldn't take me to go get blood. I was adopted after my sister

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when I got my first transfusion. They found out I have harder blood to match than my sister.

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One time they gave me bad blood that didn't match exactly and I had a bad reaction. I couldn't

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breathe and I had bumps all over me. After that happened my mom told the doctors I was going to

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get special blood like my sister. It was hard to find my special blood but my mom finally found

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enough and after that I stopped getting sick at the time too. Direct donation is the collection

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of blood with the intention of it going to a specific individual. Unfortunately many hospitals

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and blood banks are recently refusing to fulfill position prescribed and ordered

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autologous and direct donations despite the fact that they are legal safe and have a long history

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of prior use. Two years ago our lives got turned upside down. Carter blood care called me out of

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the blue and told me that our donors could no longer donate blood to our girls anymore.

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Even though for the past 10 years they had agreed to let us do that. Almost immediately

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after their first transfusion with anonymous blood their health rapidly began to decline.

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It was so awful. I slept all summer long. I had itches. I itched all the time.

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I had terrible sores in my mouth and I even told my mom I couldn't live like this anymore

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which made my mom cry every day. When they took our donors away two years ago

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I got super scared. They've got super sick and I just was too tired to do anything.

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All I want to do was sleep. I prayed and prayed every day that we would get our special blood again.

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There's a growing number of situations where entities within the blood donation industry have

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made the business financial decision to override the doctor's order for the directed donor blood

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effectively keeping the doctor from practicing medicine in the best interest of their patient.

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We had to change blood banks hospitals and doctors which was a little scary but I got

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my special blood back. Now I feel great. For the past 18 months the girls have gotten their

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direct donors back and they've absolutely thrived. It's mind-blowing to see the positive changes in them

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compared to 2023. I'm in the junior high. I play volleyball and basketball. I'm a cheerleader

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and I have enough energy to run track this year. No one at my school would ever know I have

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thalassemia. I'm so happy. I feel like a normal kid now. I love gymnastics but probably the

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best part about getting my special blood back is having the energy to annoy my family with

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my constant giggling and goofiness. I also talk a lot. The worst part about not getting my special

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blood was seeing my mom cry and worry so much. I don't ever want to go through that again.

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Well obviously a very important hearing. I am joined now. It's my honor and pleasure to be

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joined by Liz James who is the founder and president of Blessed by His Blood.

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And Tanya Lear, the mother of the two beautiful kids that we saw there. Tanya,

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Liz, thank you for joining me. Thank you for having us. Liz, you know, I think about back in

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the movies, car accident, you know, television shows, people were like, oh, you know, find

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neighbors and friends that had the right blood type so that you could donate blood and help the

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person out. The system seems to have changed. But tell me a little bit about before we get

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your company blessed by His Blood. What is it? First of all, thank you for having us today.

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We are 100% not for profit cooperative. There's nobody that gets a salary or any benefit from

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this other than we know we're doing the right thing. And what we do is we match donors and

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recipients for people who have chosen to abstain from mRNA technology. And we are nationwide.

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So nationwide, if you want, if you need a blood transmission, you match people that have the

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same blood type. Is that a sense of this word? Correct. We work within our cooperative

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membership. And we're a faith based, although you don't have to be of Christian faith to be

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a member. But we are modeled after John 1513, which is no man has greater love than to

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give his life for his friend. And we jokingly say you're not giving your life or just giving a pint

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of blood in a couple hours of your time. And we've just had some really beautiful stories

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come out in the last two and a half years since we've since we've been doing this.

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You know, I never would have thought I would need a company like yours or a

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nonprofit like yours until you know, I went through the health crisis that I did.

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Tanya, what was this debate that's taking place about?

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So basically when we adopted our two daughters, we found directed donors who had been donating

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blood for our girls for 10 years. And there was zero issues. The girls were thriving.

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They were healthy. They're doing great. They were actually healthier than other patients

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who have the same blood disorder in the wide DFW area because of what we were doing.

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And without reason, suddenly one day they called me up and said, hey,

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sorry, your direct donors can no longer donate blood for your daughters. There was no explanation as

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to why. No, nothing, just your cut off and a story. And so this bill that we were created

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that Liz actually went to, we hadn't even met each other. I didn't even know there was a bill.

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She was fighting for this right to, you know, something that we've had in this country

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since 1980. She was fighting for this bill and for all people who need chronic transfusions or

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if anyone needs a transfusion from, you know, an operation or if they have cancer or anything,

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that they would be allowed to choose their donor, which we have been doing since the 80s in this

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country. Are there states where, you know, like here in Texas, what are you actually fighting

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for? It's really not a state by state problem. It's a, it, it tends to be a blood center

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by blood center problem. And what we have is, is even a corporate entity making medical decisions

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in a blanket way. And so one size fits all, which is what I'm completely against. This is,

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this is exactly right. And not just that, but taking away the right for the doctor to practice

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medicine as they best see fit, as well as the patient's own rights. I mean, if you're, if you're

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saying you have, you do not have the right to choose and you're stuck between a rock and a hard

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place, the hard place and the rock being if you don't receive a transfusion, you will die.

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That's, that is quite a conundrum. And, and it's also not, not a great time to have to

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make that decision. I mean, you're under stress already. And one of the, one of the things that,

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that doctors should be doing and any, anybody in healthcare should be doing is creating less

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stress in a patient, not more stress. If you're in a car wreck and you're bleeding out,

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you're going to get whatever you're going to get, you know, unless you have something on that

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says you're a Jehovah's Witness or something like that, which the Jehovah's Witness,

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and there's a, there's, there's a protocol called the Jehovah's Witness Protocol.

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But if you're Jehovah's Witness... What is that protocol? I'm curious,

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how do they survive a situation like that? Well, in some cases they don't, but they're at,

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they absolutely do not take tissue or blood. Okay. But as anybody else in the public can also

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opt into the Jehovah's Witness Protocol and the Jehovah's Witness Protocol

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is, is a little bit different depending on the situation is, because the question is,

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why do you need blood? So for somebody like Faith or Mele who don't make red blood cells,

01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:11.440
it's not, it would not behoove them to receive an erythropoietin promoting product that would,

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that would promote the production of red blood cells because their body doesn't make it.

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But there are other things that they might be able to do, not for the girls, because they

01:03:20.580 --> 01:03:26.320
have a very specific problem going on. But for somebody who's going through chemotherapy or has

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anemia, there's trans-examic acid, there's platelet producing drugs, there's iron infusions, there's,

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there are lots of other things that can be done depending on the individual.

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So, and you can ask for those things too. There's

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radial embolization, which, which, where they can embolize certain vessels. There's also something

01:03:53.600 --> 01:03:59.920
called cell-saver technology where you can, if you know that you're going into a surgery,

01:03:59.920 --> 01:04:06.360
they can actually harvest the blood as you're bleeding out, clean it in like kind of a dialysis

01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:12.040
cleaning situation, it's through a perfusionist. And then put it back in. That's actually the safest

01:04:12.040 --> 01:04:17.100
way you can receive a transfusion is for them to clean your own blood and just put it right back

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in again. Interesting. What is the argument that's being made? I mean, your daughters are giving

01:04:21.340 --> 01:04:27.660
this incredible testimony. What argument's being made? No, sorry, you know, young ladies.

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So, if you watch the rest of the hearing, you can hear, because all of the politicians asked

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these people from that particular blood bank why. And their biggest thing that they said is,

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well, people lie. And the people that are, people lie. Directed donor blood is not safer

01:04:48.580 --> 01:04:56.100
than the voluntary blood donors that we have. They have a two to seven times higher risk of

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infectious diseases. And the critical elements when you donate blood is to fill out a donor

01:05:00.700 --> 01:05:07.220
questionnaire and also the testing that we do. But directed donors are incentivized to donate.

01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:14.980
And they are, have been found to be more likely to not be truthful on that donor questionnaire.

01:05:15.720 --> 01:05:20.380
Now, we do test all blood for infectious diseases, but there are window periods for

01:05:20.380 --> 01:05:27.140
each infectious disease, HIV and hepatitis C, 10 days, hepatitis B up to 24 days. So,

01:05:27.140 --> 01:05:31.360
it's possible for a donor to be infected with these viruses and not test positive.

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That's where this donor questionnaire becomes very, very important,

01:05:35.540 --> 01:05:40.840
because we're evaluating the risk. So, if a donor is incentivized to donate,

01:05:41.180 --> 01:05:46.240
they may not be truthful. And this is why you see an increased risk of directed donor blood.

01:05:46.720 --> 01:05:53.880
And so, the people that are closest to you are motivated to donate for you. And so,

01:05:53.880 --> 01:06:00.040
they're going to lie about their extracurricular habits. And that is just wild to me,

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because let me just tell you who our donors are. Whenever we, whenever we brought the girls home

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and they were not thriving, our hematologist at the time actually came to us and said,

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listen, your girls have rare antigens on their blood, they're difficult to match,

01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:18.300
and we don't always have a bag sitting on the shelf ready to give one of your girls.

01:06:18.820 --> 01:06:22.440
And if we do, sometimes the bag that they have is going to expire the next day.

01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:27.420
So, if you give a patient a bag of blood that is fixing to expire,

01:06:27.620 --> 01:06:30.520
you're giving them empty red blood cells that do them absolutely no good,

01:06:30.720 --> 01:06:34.400
and all you do is create iron overload, which is a big problem for chronically

01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:37.820
transfused patients, because iron collects in every major organ that you have,

01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:41.260
and there's absolutely no way to get the iron out except to bleed or take really dangerous

01:06:41.260 --> 01:06:46.820
key later medications. So, she said, if you find some donors that match your daughters

01:06:46.820 --> 01:06:51.200
exactly, then we can solve this problem, because they can go in and donate the week

01:06:51.200 --> 01:06:54.860
before, we'll always have the blood on hand, it'll be fresh and they'll do great.

01:06:55.460 --> 01:07:00.580
And so, I had a mission and I did it. So, I didn't ask close friends and family,

01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:06.260
I did a Facebook poll that was public, and I asked people if they had any kind of calling

01:07:06.260 --> 01:07:09.920
to come do something good for these little girls who were not thriving to help us,

01:07:10.120 --> 01:07:13.880
people came out of the woodwork, because at the core of every human being,

01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:20.820
we all are created to do good. And so, people genuinely, I feel, want to be good people,

01:07:20.820 --> 01:07:24.920
deep down, everybody. And so, these strangers came out of the woodwork.

01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:29.840
You believe in humanity too, it's kind of the whole point of my perspective today, right?

01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:34.920
And so, these people came out of the woodworks to help us, and we tested hundreds of donors,

01:07:35.380 --> 01:07:38.780
and we didn't find hundreds of donors, but we did test that many,

01:07:39.120 --> 01:07:42.900
and we found a few that matched exactly, which was really, really hard to do,

01:07:42.980 --> 01:07:45.720
and it didn't happen overnight, it took us a while to find these donors.

01:07:45.720 --> 01:07:51.360
But these donors, faithfully, some of them I have yet to this day to meet them face to face,

01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:57.880
and they, you know, I don't have any money, I have seven children. We don't have gifts to give

01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:03.180
people. So, I just thank you so much for everything that you're doing for us. That is the text

01:08:03.180 --> 01:08:08.220
message I send, and it's genuine, and they know it, and that is it. They've never met my girls,

01:08:08.340 --> 01:08:13.920
and they don't care, they genuinely want to help our kids, and that's it. But this blood bank

01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:18.500
says that, oh, well, they're going to lie. What's interesting, and I'm just going to add this, is

01:08:18.500 --> 01:08:26.580
that I was writing up here with Liz, and she got a phone call from my blood bank, and they said,

01:08:26.700 --> 01:08:31.900
hey, we know you donated a couple weeks ago, but we need some platelets. There is a

01:08:31.900 --> 01:08:36.100
shortage of platelets. We'll give you two $30 gift cards if you'll come do it right now.

01:08:36.420 --> 01:08:40.440
Right now. We need it right now. And if you do that, we're also going to put your name

01:08:40.440 --> 01:08:47.440
in a hat for our all-expense paid vacation trip for two to the Super Bowl. Yep. Come on, come on,

01:08:47.480 --> 01:08:54.320
let's do it. And she said, you know, she couldn't, and why not? But you need to. And so like,

01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:59.180
they were pretty pushy. Yeah. And I actually get that call about every three or four weeks.

01:08:59.620 --> 01:09:04.020
But what's crazy is that they're incentivizing anonymous donors. They're

01:09:04.020 --> 01:09:08.700
incentivizing everybody. I mean, the entire process is anonymous. The fact that you'd

01:09:08.700 --> 01:09:13.160
lie is though, somehow that lie is going to permeate the blood that's going to be tested

01:09:13.160 --> 01:09:18.900
for and all the issues anyway. It's going to go through the same blood test as anyone else. And

01:09:18.900 --> 01:09:24.840
why is why is anyone that knows you or doesn't have any greater propensity to lie than someone

01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:30.720
that's trying to pick up some a ticket? But that says to me, there's huge funding behind

01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:33.820
it. There's something bigger than what we're seeing. This isn't just about, oh,

01:09:33.820 --> 01:09:40.480
we're a blood company. We want to help people donate blood. Where's the cash cow that I'm not

01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:45.120
seeing? So this is very important. This is what people don't understand. I think

01:09:45.120 --> 01:09:52.960
blood is maybe the only industry where somebody is giving something away altruistically,

01:09:53.020 --> 01:10:01.940
and it is turned and sold. And the United States supplies 70% of the world's blood products.

01:10:02.660 --> 01:10:08.220
Around the rest of the world. 70% of the world's blood products. In terms of commodity,

01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:14.780
it's ahead of gold and coal. Really? That is correct. And in addition to that,

01:10:15.580 --> 01:10:20.900
only about 20% of blood total that's collected in a community actually stays in the community.

01:10:21.360 --> 01:10:28.900
But it's not just sold overseas. It's sold to Big Pharma and it's sold for research. And the

01:10:28.900 --> 01:10:35.000
Big Pharma component is really interesting. And I have quite a lot of experience in it. I'm a pharmacist.

01:10:35.820 --> 01:10:46.740
I realized back in about 2012, the biologics, which is a class of pharmaceuticals that is

01:10:46.740 --> 01:10:55.200
the fastest growing, most profitable aspect of pharmaceuticals that we have now,

01:10:56.100 --> 01:11:04.340
about 10 to 20% of those biologics are actually made from human blood. And that in itself is concerning

01:11:04.340 --> 01:11:10.880
because it's not just, like, if I give blood, it's not just my blood going into one person's

01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:20.520
pharmaceuticals. It's batched in vats. And so it's literally untrackable. And that creates a

01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:28.640
other set of problems. So when people donate blood, how much value can that have? They're

01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:35.040
giving away football tickets. Do we have a sense of overseas? Is blood worth more than it is here?

01:11:35.940 --> 01:11:43.900
That is very interesting. So contract prices and the blood industry is very tight-lipped

01:11:43.900 --> 01:11:53.100
on pricing. I have been able to acquire some pricing from various hospitals. And on average,

01:11:53.180 --> 01:12:00.060
a contract pricing runs about $700 a bag. But if I'm donating to you, and it's a direct donor

01:12:00.060 --> 01:12:08.760
situation, that barcode bag belongs to you. If it's an anonymous donor bag, they can look at

01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:15.580
a bag and say, oh, there's something unique about this bag. I have all of these antigens.

01:12:16.020 --> 01:12:25.800
Perhaps I'm unvaccinated, whatever. I know I will only get $700 by giving it to you, Dell. Or

01:12:26.540 --> 01:12:33.640
I can make $4,000 because of these unique properties by donating to this pharmaceutical

01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:39.580
company who is looking for those particular things or somebody overseas or whatever.

01:12:40.100 --> 01:12:47.460
On top of that, I will say I was at an event a few months ago talking to a doctor and one of her

01:12:47.460 --> 01:12:52.940
patients had gone overseas to have a procedure done. She said that she wanted unvaccinated blood

01:12:52.940 --> 01:12:59.580
on standby. And they said, well, that will be an additional $70,000. So I don't know,

01:12:59.580 --> 01:13:07.480
that's an anecdotal story, but she came back with that information. So that, if true, and I

01:13:07.480 --> 01:13:13.520
believe it probably is, if true, that says that, of course, all blood is different.

01:13:14.660 --> 01:13:19.560
So when you go and donate blood, they're studying it, and it starts getting categorized

01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:23.500
into having different special needs. That's exactly right. I'm curious with your daughters,

01:13:23.500 --> 01:13:30.020
you said that once they went on to sort of the pooled blood, if you will, like not direct donor,

01:13:30.240 --> 01:13:36.220
that they started having health issues. What is wrong? Why is that blood not as good? Do you

01:13:36.220 --> 01:13:42.640
know where it's coming from or why they would be having health issues? So according to where

01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:47.560
they were going, they said that they matched it down to the last antigen. So I hope that

01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:54.000
they did, but I did read the expiration dates of the bags because I was very curious at that time

01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:58.220
what it was. And the expiration date on one of the bags was two days from the day we got it,

01:13:58.240 --> 01:14:01.600
even though they assured me that they were going to have the freshest blood available,

01:14:01.740 --> 01:14:06.580
and they didn't. And so for a person who gets chronically transfused, you need the

01:14:06.580 --> 01:14:10.900
freshest blood. You also need blood from a healthy donor. So another thing we have

01:14:10.900 --> 01:14:14.820
in our population is the most people that donate blood are usually over the age of 65.

01:14:14.820 --> 01:14:18.780
And why is that? Is because you're retired and you're like, you know what? I got nothing

01:14:18.780 --> 01:14:24.340
better to do. I want to give back, okay? But the 20, 30 and 40 year olds don't typically go donate.

01:14:24.660 --> 01:14:28.380
Why? Because they're busy. They're working. They don't want to take two hours out of their day

01:14:28.380 --> 01:14:32.340
to drive and then sit there and then have to drink some juice and do all the things you

01:14:32.340 --> 01:14:38.120
have to do to donate. It's just not convenient. And so those are the people that don't donate.

01:14:38.460 --> 01:14:43.200
So basically when we got a bag of blood that was anonymous, I don't know who it came from,

01:14:43.200 --> 01:14:49.480
you know, but the girl's hemoglobin was tanking. And so a pre-transfusion hemoglobin for my girls,

01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:54.100
for them to actually be able to thrive, needs to be above 10. Theirs was coming in at seven.

01:14:54.600 --> 01:14:59.080
That's not compatible with any quality of life whatsoever. A normal hemoglobin for a person

01:14:59.080 --> 01:15:04.180
who does not have a blood disease for a female is about 13. For a male is 14 or higher. So

01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:09.740
they had no quality of life. So they laid around all summer long. One of my daughters

01:15:09.740 --> 01:15:14.900
got fever blisters. Well, that comes from a particular virus. That virus is not one of the

01:15:14.900 --> 01:15:22.240
viruses that's true. Somebody lied. It's not one that's tested. So there's certain diseases that

01:15:22.240 --> 01:15:29.240
they test for in the blood, but there's a lot of them that they don't. And the CEO of this

01:15:29.240 --> 01:15:34.500
particular blood bank that we were having issues with went on stage and said there is a

01:15:34.500 --> 01:15:42.040
10-day window for HIV that we don't know if someone donates. There is a 12 to 14 day for hepatitis C,

01:15:42.120 --> 01:15:48.380
and there's a 24-day window for hepatitis B. And that is a random donor off the street who decides

01:15:48.380 --> 01:15:52.760
I want to go do a good thing today and donate. My donors have been doing this for 10 years.

01:15:53.100 --> 01:15:55.940
So if they had one of those problems, they would have been screened out by now.

01:15:56.480 --> 01:16:00.780
So their arguments are completely invalid. They make absolutely no sense.

01:16:00.780 --> 01:16:06.660
They also argued that it was so expensive. Like, this is so much more expensive to do this.

01:16:06.980 --> 01:16:12.100
And, you know, basically they're tagging with a special little tag and they're putting it on a

01:16:12.100 --> 01:16:18.240
shelf. And the blood that goes to the hospitals, blood goes to hospitals all the time. So you're

01:16:18.240 --> 01:16:23.160
not hiring an extra courier or paying those fees or anything. So there's no extra cost.

01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:28.540
The only extra cost that I had in that particular situation is they made me pay

01:16:30.120 --> 01:16:36.440
$111 to donate my own blood with a money order. I could not do a credit card, a check,

01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:41.080
or anything. How to be a money order? Well, obviously, this is something that I think we

01:16:41.080 --> 01:16:46.600
all need to be focused on. Again, this is just about, I think, sort of corporate capture of

01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:50.560
things that we think should just be wide open and free, especially here in the United States

01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:54.180
of America. How do people follow the work that you're doing? They just go to-

01:16:54.180 --> 01:17:00.620
It's www.blessedbyhisblood.com. Okay, awesome. Look, if you guys will stick around. I'd love to

01:17:00.620 --> 01:17:03.720
have an off-the-record. I'd love to know what it's like to adopt out of China.

01:17:04.240 --> 01:17:07.200
That's got to be quite a ride in sort of what inspired you to start.

01:17:07.380 --> 01:17:07.720
Thank you.

01:17:08.140 --> 01:17:10.220
Blessed by His Blood. I want to thank you for joining us today.

01:17:10.300 --> 01:17:10.840
Thank you. Thank you for having us.

01:17:10.980 --> 01:17:11.520
Thank you very much. Absolutely.

01:17:12.660 --> 01:17:16.880
Look, you know, our founding fathers said if you want to remain free,

01:17:16.940 --> 01:17:20.620
you're going to have to remain vigilant. These may seem like bizarre stories until

01:17:20.620 --> 01:17:26.120
you find yourself in a situation where you actually need blood or you need freedom.

01:17:26.300 --> 01:17:29.580
You need the right to choose your doctor. You want your doctor to be able to do whatever

01:17:29.580 --> 01:17:36.080
they want to do, not what's forced down by some corporate infrastructure that doesn't have you

01:17:36.080 --> 01:17:41.280
personally in mind. This is about concierge. This is about living the life that each one

01:17:41.280 --> 01:17:45.440
of us deserves. Remember, this country is founded on the principle of the individual,

01:17:45.440 --> 01:17:51.560
how dynamic you are. We recognize you're unique. We recognize that your body isn't exactly like

01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:55.860
your neighbors. We recognize that you may want to make different choices. That is what the

01:17:55.860 --> 01:18:00.760
high wire is perpetually reporting on is what we're standing for, is what we're fighting for

01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:07.840
for you. So when you donate, you continue to not only, you know, fight for the things that

01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:12.680
you know you care about, how about the things that you didn't know might be an issue until

01:18:12.680 --> 01:18:17.840
maybe it's too late. We're looking at those things too. One of the great ways you can donate is we

01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:23.660
still have our terrorist project, which is we're adding to the high road, which is this beautiful

01:18:23.660 --> 01:18:29.320
walkway walk. Every single day that I come to this show from the offices to the studios here,

01:18:29.900 --> 01:18:34.000
the benches are gone, but you can still choose a brick. And we hope that once you

01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.880
choose that brick, you can come and watch the show and find that brick yourself. This

01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:43.220
is my favorite brick of the week. Hey everybody. Well, this beautiful walkway is about to extend

01:18:43.220 --> 01:18:49.280
onto the terrace. And this is my favorite brick of the week. Always fight for freedom of choice,

01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:54.720
the Malin family. In fact, that's really what this show has all been about. You've been

01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:59.720
watching it. This is more than just vaccines. This is more than body autonomy. This is a

01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:05.220
fight for freedom. It is truly what the high wire is involved in, of what ICAN stands for.

01:19:05.220 --> 01:19:09.500
So I hope you'll join us in continuing to fight for freedom.

01:19:11.700 --> 01:19:19.600
Of all the nations that should celebrate freedom of medical decision, medical freedom, it should be

01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:26.380
the United States of America, whose founding doctrine is based on freedom. Well, what happens

01:19:26.380 --> 01:19:32.820
when you take a medical freedom advocate and you put them ahead of HHS, they don't just

01:19:32.820 --> 01:19:38.500
bring freedom back to this country. They are that beacon of light and shining hope for the

01:19:38.500 --> 01:19:42.540
rest of the world. And that's what happened in an announcement this week by Robert Kenyon Jr.

01:19:42.620 --> 01:19:48.060
Take a look at this. Today, I want to tell you about a letter that I just sent to Germany's

01:19:48.060 --> 01:19:53.680
federal minister of health, Nina Workin, because what's happening in Germany right now demands

01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:59.640
a clear public response from the United States of America. I've learned that more than a thousand

01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:06.380
German physicians and thousands of their patients now face prosecution and punishment for issuing

01:20:06.380 --> 01:20:13.440
exemptions from wearing masks or getting COVID-19 vaccines during the pandemic. When any government

01:20:13.440 --> 01:20:19.540
criminalizes doctors for advising their patients, it crossed the line that free societies have

01:20:19.540 --> 01:20:25.180
always treated as sacred. In my letter, I explained that Germany is targeting physicians

01:20:25.180 --> 01:20:31.040
who put their patients first and punishing citizens for making their own medical choices.

01:20:31.620 --> 01:20:36.680
The German government is now violating the sacred patient-physician relationship,

01:20:37.040 --> 01:20:44.120
replacing it with a dangerous system that makes physicians enforcers of state policies.

01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:48.800
Your health is no longer your doctor's priority under this system.

01:20:49.440 --> 01:20:54.060
You're a doctor instead of serving the welfare of the collective as determined by

01:20:54.060 --> 01:20:59.780
unelected technocrats with no medical training. During the COVID era, governments across the world

01:20:59.780 --> 01:21:06.080
expanded their authority. Even in America, doctors were unjustly attacked for challenging

01:21:06.080 --> 01:21:11.900
the status quo. Germany followed that same pattern. And now doctors who raised questions

01:21:11.900 --> 01:21:18.780
are challenged official directives, face conviction, the loss of their licenses, and even exile from

01:21:18.780 --> 01:21:23.060
their professions. Germany has long held a respected place in the global community

01:21:23.060 --> 01:21:26.500
as a nation committed to democratic values and human rights.

01:21:27.320 --> 01:21:33.360
Policies that suppress dissent, that silent speech that criminalize medical decision-making

01:21:33.360 --> 01:21:39.800
undermine that legacy. A confident government listens to its innocence. A free society

01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:45.640
protects the rights to think, the rights of question, and the right to choose. In my letter,

01:21:45.900 --> 01:21:50.760
I made it clear that Germany has the opportunity and the responsibility to correct this trajectory,

01:21:51.060 --> 01:21:55.440
to restore medical autonomy, to end politically motivated prosecutions,

01:21:56.400 --> 01:22:00.600
and to uphold the rights that anchor every democratic nation.

01:22:01.620 --> 01:22:06.560
History will record how leaders respond at moments like this. Thank you.

01:22:08.260 --> 01:22:13.340
What an incredible statement and it really points out concerns we should all have.

01:22:13.660 --> 01:22:18.860
You know, if you've watched this show, sitting at this desk have been countless doctors and

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scientists that actually saw the truth before anyone else did, said that the

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vaccine was never going to stop transmission, said that you were going to have blood clots.

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The leading heart doctor in the world, most published, Peter McCullough,

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has sat right here. He sat here and warned people this is raising the risk of myocarditis,

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pericarditis, all which has been backed by, was backed by science then. Now there's even more

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science that exists. But how does a free society allow the persecution of science?

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We have watched that in the darkest times throughout history and even darker is when

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the media gets behind it and becomes a propaganda machine for that authoritarian

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government attacking free citizens. Real science, real scientists simply because they

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have a differing opinion. And I want to point this out. Without freedom you don't have science.

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Without freedom you don't have health. Because ultimately one thing I know to be true about

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the history of mankind and especially of science, I can't think of a single circumstance where the

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consensus in the body of science made the altering shift and change that evolved that

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science practice. From Galileo we threw him in jail. We wanted to believe we were the center

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of the universe and when we didn't get what we liked our authoritarian government said you

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should be arrested. Certainly we should have evolved from that. Certainly we should recognize

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that the evolution of science and medicine and the advancement of society relies upon

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doctors being able to step outside of the norm, step outside of the consensus and offer a differing

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position and offer science that can be repeated. And if that science does repeat and does show

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that that mask is incapable of stopping a particle as small as a coronavirus then it should be

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you know not mandated upon you and certainly doctors should be able to write an exemption

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like those that are now under threat in Germany. And if a vaccine doesn't stop transmission

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then why do you have to take it? If it cannot protect your neighbor why would that doctor lose

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their license? And when you start seeing all the harms caused by this vaccine and we're

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doing an investigation now look into the future it looks like our concern of prion disease

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you know which is essentially a form of mad cow disease maybe being caused by this vaccine

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we're doing a deep dive I'm not going to bring it to you until we have more information but we are

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continuing the research because you know we have to know what's happening inside of our society we

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have to know if we're in the clear but more importantly than anything else we have to

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learn from history and it has never been intelligent to rush science and to arrest

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the scientists that have a dissenting perspective open market free speech that's what America is

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based on and I would really love to see news and media begin to support freedom instead of

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authoritarian controls which clearly are being funded by large moneyed interests the high

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wire doesn't work that way and we hope that others will follow our lead this is the work

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that we do here and we're excited more than ever to continue this work because this may be the most

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important year in the future of our species I hope to stay tuned in to our work and I'll see you

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next week on the High Wire

