Good evening and welcome to this week's episode of Dot Connector.
Well, tonight, we've got something different.
Again, you've not got me.
David's in his second week of his nice break, which is well-earned and well-deserved.
So tonight's episode, we're going to be sharing with you an interview that he did
with Dr. Malik.
Many of you will have heard of.
Very famous through COVID, a very outspoken, a great man, great support for him.
So we're going to be sharing an interview that David did with him a few weeks ago
here at Iconic.
Just under two hours long, and they go into everything you can think of.
So hopefully you'll enjoy that as this week's episode.
And I'll be back with you next Thursday at five o'clock.
And after that, David will be back in the famous yellow chair himself.
Until then, enjoy the episode.
David, listen, thank you so much for agreeing to do this.
No problem.
You didn't have to travel far down the road.
So basically, I got to know your son, Gareth, and he's a beautiful soul.
He is.
And I said, you know, I'd like to get your dad on the podcast.
And he was like, it's quite a long way, mate.
It's going to be a bit difficult.
And then I said, I don't mind.
I'll come up here.
So this is the first of 350 episodes that I've done outside my studio.
Worth.
I'm honored.
And I want to share something with you.
In 1990, when you kind of woke up to everything, I was 15 years old.
You were 38.
I'm now 49.
And it's in the last few years I've started my awakening process.
Right.
So when it comes to time, nonlinear time, yes, I haven't really awakened.
You've been awakening since 1990.
But chronologically, it's only 10 years after you that I really kind of
started figuring things out.
I didn't know much about you because I've been busy in my life chasing
medical career and sure, fighting COVID and whatnot.
But I'll be honest with you, the system had programmed me to think
about you in a certain way.
You were slightly crazy.
Yeah, I hope so.
You were a bit fringy.
Funny reptiles were associated with you reptile people.
And, yeah, new age, anti-God, dangerous man, a bit of a weirdo.
Don't want to be associated with him.
All of it wrong.
Apart from the reptiles, that's true.
And I hadn't read any of your books, hadn't watched any of your videos.
But this is what the system had fed through to my awareness.
And then I, you know, I heard about your son.
I met him, I did an amazing podcast with him.
And then messages started coming through to me, emails and DMs.
Oh my goodness, Gareth was so normal, not like his dad.
Oh, Gareth was so cool.
Wow, didn't expect that a son of David Ike to be like him.
And a lot of people reached out to me and said,
don't have David on your podcast.
You don't want to be associated with him.
Oh, I've heard that before.
It'll be bad for your brand, Amit.
It will discredit you being associated with him.
But here we are.
Yeah, here we are.
You know, much of what I call the mainstream alternative media,
much of which has come out of the mainstream since COVID,
they won't touch me at the Web Archipel either because...
I'm touching you.
Yeah, because they don't want to be discredited by association with me.
Because, you know, programming is...
It's like having wet paint on your hands.
Everything you touch gets paint on it.
And it's the same with programming.
And you can believe that you are deprogrammed
because you have seen that the world
and those powers running the world
are not exactly what you thought they were before,
like presidents and prime ministers and so on, politicians.
And what happens is your prison cell perceptions,
which are downloaded your entire life,
you've described it very well,
your prison cell just expands a bit.
And what you do then is you associate that with awakening.
But the prison cell is still in place.
It's just that you're seeing the world in a slightly broader way.
But it's not broad enough to encompass me.
Because, you know, my philosophy is I want to know what's happening.
I want to know what this reality is.
I want to know who we are, what we're doing here.
And when you realize that we as humans
can only see a tiny band of frequency called visible light,
and therefore almost everything in the space you're looking at
is denied your visual perception,
then I think a bit of humility is called for,
like maybe there's not just a bit more to know,
maybe there is infinitely more to know.
And I've always approached what I do from the standpoint
of what Socrates, the ancient Greek philosopher,
is quoted as saying, which is basically to know
is to know you know nothing.
And what that does is it means that whatever you know
or think you know, there's always more to know.
I mean, that should be a gimme.
But unfortunately what happens is people,
they get a certain insight, the prison cell widens slightly,
and they think that's awakening.
And they think, I've got it now.
None of us have got it.
We're getting it.
And if you stop and think I've got it,
then you're not getting any more.
Because you've become an eddy, a whirlpool in the river,
the river of awareness, the river of knowledge,
the river of insight is all flowing past,
but you're in this whirlpool eddy thinking you've got it.
And what has happened, of course, with the mainstream media
as they completely ignore me now,
I mean they used to just ridicule me and ridicule me.
And then I became dangerous and I was dangerous and dangerous
and then now we're in this phase since COVID of ignoring me.
But the mainstream of the alternative media is still in its eddy.
It's a slightly bigger one than the mainstream media,
not too much bigger honestly with many of them.
And therefore they see me in much the same terms as the mainstream media do.
I mean they say, oh yeah, he's right about this and he's right about that.
But oh, you've seen what he's saying about this.
And they're in a slightly bigger prison than those they call out and claim to expose.
David, we'll come to the mainstream alternative media in a second.
I don't want to say something about your book, right?
So basically when I was trying to research you, I was like, oh shit, there's a lot of material.
Oh yeah.
Man, he's written a lot of books.
Oh my God, there's a lot of videos.
So you know what?
I'm sorry, I'm very last minute.
I'm just going to read the latest book.
And now you're telling me there's another book.
So I've read the book.
And what I've learned about you is how much we have in common
and how much actually I share your views.
So it's not like I've been biased or corrupted by your previous work.
I've already come to the same conclusions as you.
And when I read your book, what I formulated in my head, my opinion about you is
you're a deeply philosophical man.
You're very well researched.
There's no quackery going on.
You're very balanced, very nuanced and very deep and profound.
I mean, and you tie in scientific concepts, philosophical concepts.
You're up to scratch with geopolitics, the psychology of man.
Kudos.
Very kind.
I'm being serious.
So what I'm trying to say is like, and it's not like I read your stuff in the past.
And now I'm like, oh yeah, I've been indoctrinated by you.
No, I have lived most of my life not knowing anything about you.
And because I do so many podcasts and I read a lot of books,
I've just finished something called the mitochondria manifesto,
which ties in with what you've actually written.
I think everything happens for a reason.
That book talks about how energy, light is transformed into what we deem as physical manifestation.
Light from the sun becomes food via the plants which eat it from,
which are eaten by animals and then we eat it.
And ultimately we still have light within us.
We are beings of light, magnetism, water and energy.
You actually touch upon all of this in your book.
And my brain was getting blown apart when I was reading you right about it.
I was like, oh my God.
And you want to hear something crazy?
I mean, I told you something crazy.
On my drive here, I pictured, I was like, I bet I'll walk into the loo
and I'll see David Ike in his jumper standing at the urinal.
And I'll be like, well, this is fucking awkward.
And that's exactly what happened.
Yeah, it did.
It wasn't awkward.
And I think because I've already anticipated it.
But what's even fascinating is in your first chapter,
you talk about what is above, what is below.
You talk about the holographic man.
You know, we know someone mutually, a friend,
but I don't know how well you know him.
Someone called Dr. Robin Kelly from New Zealand.
Have you ever heard of him?
You vaguely, yeah.
So your son, not Gareth, Jamie.
Jamie and Richard Willett went out to New Zealand.
That's right.
And he knew your partner.
And he introduced your partner to Jamie and Richard.
That's right.
And she came here.
And so he said to me on the phone today,
you won't remind him that I'm the one that did the matchmaking.
Yeah.
It was a strange sequence of events.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, I do know him.
And so basically he also wrote about the holographic man.
But independently and came to these conclusions as you did,
which I just find amazing, the similarities.
It's just incredible.
Well, this is how I see it anyway.
The whole conspiracy is about control of perception
because from perception becomes our behavior.
We behave as we do because we perceive as we do.
And my view is, and I'm not alone,
and this goes back into ancient times,
is that this is what we would call today a simulation.
And the idea is to hold our perception of reality
within the simulation,
which is all about holding your frequency within the simulation.
So what you're interacting with is the simulation.
But a real awakening, which goes much, much further
than the slightly bigger prison cell awakening,
a fake awakening,
is when you can expand your awareness
beyond the frequency, quote, walls of this simulation.
And then you're tapping into infinite possibility.
You're tapping into infinite insight, infinite awareness,
infinite knowledge, infinite intuition.
And when you tap into that, you get the same stuff.
And therefore when people say,
how is a maze reading your book?
Because I'd come to the same conclusion.
Yeah, well, you must have tapped into the same stuff then
because it's there for everybody.
It's just that most people live in a myopia
and it's not having to go at them from cradle to grave.
They're programmed and pressured to live in a myopia.
I refuse to because, you know, when I started out
and I went through this historic levels of ridicule
and, you know, I still do,
people haven't looked at my stuff,
but it's not like it was.
You have to come to terms with the fact
that if you're going to go with this philosophy
of whatever I know, there's always more to know.
So what don't I know?
You know, you get to a point, you think,
well, I think I got that.
But what don't I know?
That takes you deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole
or in another analogy, more and more of expanded awareness.
And as you do that, you are leaving the perceptual prison cells
that most people are programmed from cradle to grave
from their parents because they're bad people
because they've been through the same programming
from school, university, media, peer pressure, people at work.
There is this program
and everyone's kind of agreed that this is normal.
That's the perception of normal.
This is the real world, as they will call it.
But if you are, you're not satisfied with that
and you want to expand your awareness
and understanding deeper and deeper
and deeper into the field of infinity,
then you very quickly are going to leave the sense of normal
that most of the population have.
And you have to be, you have to be not only aware of that,
you have to be okay with that
because when you are saying things that are outside the normal,
then most people are going to think of you,
as they do of me, that they're crazy, they're strange,
they're extreme, they're dangerous, whatever.
And all you're doing is concluding a different perception
of reality to them.
And I've been talking now since I started in 1990
about how being different is a crime
because if you're different from the normal,
then you are attacked, vilified,
dismissed, marginalized by that sense of normal.
And it's become a crime,
and not just now, but through human history as we know it,
it's become a crime to be different.
And I don't want to be like everyone else.
That's my worst nightmare.
That's you and me both, buddy.
Yeah.
So, you know, I left, I was in a cult within Islam.
I mean, some would argue that Islam is a cult,
but I was actually in a cult called Ahmadiyya.
And the cult believes that the second coming of Jesus
came along in 1898 in Qadian, India.
So I grew up in that cult.
I was born in Scotland into this cult not knowing any better
that Jesus had already come and gone.
And so most Muslims didn't think of me and my group of people
at the time as being Muslims.
I've left that cult.
I left that cult a long time ago
because I just wasn't comfortable with the teachings,
even as a kid.
I wasn't comfortable with the teachings of Islam,
of the God that was presented to me.
I thought he was a very childish, petulant.
Worship me and if you don't, you're going to hell.
It was like, what kind of God is this?
You know, if a God of love wouldn't really care
if you worship them or not because we are flawed,
we're only human.
And then I looked at other religions and I thought,
well, the Christian God and the Jewish God
are the same Abrahamic gods,
same raffle, petty, childlike gods.
I'm not really into this either.
So I kind of rejected religion,
but I sensed that there was still something bigger.
I did not believe that this was all just by accident,
evolution.
And I think the reason why a lot of people
also find you quite threatening is because
they are coming from a religious background.
So the Christians will be like,
oh my God, he's all New Age and he's anti-God
and he's evil, he's doing the devil's work.
But the truth is, you're not.
You make it very clear, you're not New Age.
No, I'm not.
You know, you're rejecting religion
and that raffle of God isn't serving the devil.
Yeah, what I find when I observe the world
is that religion is everywhere.
And I don't just mean what my father used to call
bricks and mortar religion.
Oh yeah.
I mean belief systems that are on the same theme
in the way they work as religion.
For instance, you mentioned the New Age.
I said the New Age is a religion.
And you've got all the other major religions.
But then I look at science.
It's a religion.
There's an orthodoxy.
That's the religious story.
There are the holy books.
They are the orthodoxy science books.
And anyone that goes outside of the orthodoxy
is marginalized.
They're a blasphemer.
They're banished.
It's the same thing.
You are a wonderful example.
All you were doing was asking questions rightly
about a hoax.
And you were marginalized and dismissed and thrown out
because you're a blasphemer against the orthodoxy.
And what is the orthodoxy?
Oh, it's whatever they tell me it is.
Yeah, OK, right.
You're a doctor, right?
Yeah, I'm a doctor.
Whatever they tell me I am.
And religion is everywhere because religion
is a belief system.
OK, this is a massive, massively important area.
So you've got this simulated reality
which is created to not just to control
but to mesmerize our perception of reality.
So we're living in a reality we think is solid
and everything when you only got to do a little bit
of research and realize it's not.
It's all illusory.
But you have to keep people from that expansion of awareness,
true awakening, to realize the nature of the true eye
which is consciousness, a state of being aware.
You've got to do everything you can
to stop that expansion of consciousness.
So what you do is you get people to identify
with the labels of human
and the subdivisions of human, the IMRs as I call them,
IMR, Muslim, IMR, Christian, IMR, black, IMR, white, whatever.
And you are trying to put people,
working to put people into limitations of perception,
limitations of perception.
And that is the opposite of,
okay, I think I got this.
Now what don't I know?
Expansion of awareness, expansion of questioning.
No, no, I've got it now.
I've got it.
I'm a Christian.
I've got it.
So what's a Christian?
Well, what it says here
and what that guy in the fork tells me.
And then you've got,
you say to someone else,
so what are you?
I'm a Muslim.
Okay, what's a Muslim?
Well, it's what's in this book
and what this man tells me.
It stands in front.
Okay, you're a Jew.
What's that mean?
Oh, well, it means I go to the synagogue
like he goes to the mosque
and he goes to the church
and it's all in a book
and he told that guy in black
tells me what's going on.
Hindu, same.
And then you've got right-wing politics,
left-wing politics.
You've got all these new age.
They're all,
they all have their rules and regulations
and their limitation.
So, and that's the idea,
to put people into belief systems
that are unquestionable.
That means you've circled the wagons
around your mind.
And so, if you are a Christian
or a Muslim or a Hindu
or right-wing politics,
left-wing politics, whatever,
there are areas you immediately deny yourself.
Areas of research,
areas of potential understanding,
you've denied them
because if you go there,
well, I might come up with information
that means that I've got to leave
the Christian belief system
because they don't make sense anymore
or the Muslim belief system
or the Hindu belief system
or right-wing politics belief system,
left-wing politics belief system,
cultural belief system.
And so, instead of doing that,
because people have this desire
to be part of a group for some reason,
I've never had it my entire life.
That's why I've always worked alone.
But that denial
to stay within the group,
the group think the belief system,
means that vast, vast,
massive numbers of humanity
deny themselves all these areas
of potential research and exploration.
And, fully enough,
since packing amazement can't believe it,
that's where the answers lie.
As you well know,
in those areas
that these belief systems deny you going.
Absolutely.
I mean, and just you call them religions,
I call them all cults,
whether it's a climate cult,
whether it's...
Another religion.
A cult.
Yeah.
Religious cult.
Yeah.
Because it's a cult
because the analogies you gave were perfect,
but there's a leadership and authority,
then there's the indoctrination
and it's enforced by the fellow cult members
and that's control of your life,
money, everything.
And the ultimate punishment of a cult
is banishment, you know?
Ridicule, ostracisation.
And in medicine, it's like that.
It's religion.
Because basically,
like you just said,
it stops you having that broad picture,
right-wing brain,
right-brain kind of attitude
to be curious,
to be like a child.
It pigeonholes you.
So 300,000 doctors in the UK,
how many of them questioned COVID?
How many of them questioned the experimental vaccine?
It's shocking how few did.
And I just want to do a nod to you.
Thank you and well done
for seeing right from the beginning
that COVID was a hoax.
I'm just saying thank you.
It was a pleasure.
And the thing is,
I can't do anything other.
It's not within me
to go through the
thought process that says,
yeah, I can see this is the situation,
but what are the consequences
for me of saying it, right?
You've been through the same.
And all the way through this last,
well, I'm in the 36th year
of doing this now.
All the way through,
I've never once had that
point where I've thought,
this is what I think is going on,
but what are the consequences?
I don't think consequences.
I just want to know what's going on.
And if it passes my line
that I can
satisfy myself
that this is how it is,
then I'll say it.
And how people receive it is up to them.
I left,
it's interesting.
I have this phrase,
life often gives you your greatest gifts
brilliantly disguised as your worst nightmare.
And of course,
I guess you've been through that as well.
And all that
incredible
ridicule
that I went through
in the early 1990s
and absolutely through the rest of the 1990s,
it set me free.
It set me free
of the prison that most people live in,
which is the fear of what other people think.
And once you step out
of that fear,
because
when you fear
what other people think,
you're not you anymore.
You are what they say
you should be.
And from my
perspective, I'm not having it.
I will be what I am,
not what you say I should be.
And what that does,
especially when you let go
of this fear of what other people think,
because from my experience, I'm sure of yours too,
is people who say one thing
and ridicule you,
they stop you in the street a few years later
and ask you what's going on.
But the thing is,
if you don't say it
at the time
because you fear what people will think,
then it's no good years and years later
saying I knew this was going to happen
because people will go yeah, sure you did mate.
But it's even worse than that David.
There's some people who
publicly would say they disagree with you,
but privately would say they agree with you.
Yes, exactly.
It's not even in the future.
It's in the now.
But that's a wonderful example
of fearing what other people think
and taking into account
consequences for actions.
Now of course, you look at the consequences
of walking in front of a truck
as you walk across the road,
not talking about those consequences.
I'm talking about the consequences
of doing what you know to be right.
And it's this intimidation,
whether it's your career being threatened,
whether it's your income being threatened,
whatever it's your reputation,
your image being threatened.
It's this intimidation
not to do what you know to be right.
And the answer to
sorting this world out
is that people start doing that.
You know,
instead of
looking to keep other people happy all the time,
so you stay within the group
so that they'll think of you,
oh yeah, he knows what he's doing.
He's in the real world, he is.
You express your uniqueness
and what happens happens
because once you are in a situation
where you feel free
to express what you think,
you then start to realize
that there are actually other people
who are in the same position as you,
I'm going to not say this
because I mean what will people think,
who actually think the same as you?
And the only thing that stopped
that person talking to that person
and that person to this person and coming together
is that they were all in fear
of the consequences of saying
what they believed to be right.
And it's time just to drop that
because the consequences,
I mean, how did we get here?
We got here because of that.
Why is it
that throughout no human history
the few have always controlled the many?
Because the many have always
looked up to the few a hierarchy
to tell them what to do,
tell them what to think
and even though they haven't maybe agreed with it
much of the time,
they fear not obeying.
And so all the way through history
we've had the few controlling the many
and that's how we got here.
And through AI
they want control of the many
by the few on a scale
we've never actually seen in no human history.
So what was it Einstein said
about doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results?
It's time that we tried something else
which is instead of conforming
and staying part of a group for the sake of it,
we express our uniqueness
and when we do that
we'll realize how many people actually agree with us
but I keep in their heads down.
And it's interesting when you talked earlier about
the holographic nature
of reality that I've been talking about all these years.
One of the great,
really amazing
traits phenomena
of the holographic
state
is that every part of the whole
or every part of the whole
is a smaller version of the whole.
So because of the way
the frequencies in holograms
interact, it means that the information
of the whole picture
is contained in every part of the picture
and so if you cut a holographic print
in four and you fire the laser
at four, you won't get a quarter of the picture
you'll get a quarter version of the whole picture
and what you're talking about there
about the cult
and the cult's plural
and the hierarchies
is classic
holographic phenomena
because if you look at the way that
these individual cults as you described
are ruled
and controlled through this hierarchy
and everyone's looking up at the guru
and the cult leader
well you then look at the world as a whole
and it works in exactly the same way
it doesn't matter what level
of society you're looking at
whether it's a religious belief or a political belief
or whether it's the planet as a whole
society
they all work the same
and what I'm saying
is we don't have to conform to that
hierarchy is not the only way
that we can organise ourselves
in fact it's the way that the few control the many
that's how hierarchy works
that's why we have hierarchies everywhere
because it means a tiny few can control the rest of the pyramids
so you know what
I agree with all that so one of the things
before I read the book
I've had this download mother load
in the last two years and the things that have come up in my head
that are really pressing are
bank of international settlements
you know, Zionism, ultra-Zionism
evil force
we can't put our faith in false messiahs and idols
we all as human beings have to lift and elevate ourselves
that God resides within every single one of us
and that we're all part of a consciousness
that we are all frequency and energy beings
I've been coming to all these conclusions
and you know some people said oh you're a controlled opposition
but then when I read your stuff
you go places where I've just mentioned
where other people won't talk about it
they won't talk about bank of international settlements
they might talk about wokeism
but they won't go any deeper than that
it's all just a superficial and that comes back to
the mainstream alternative media
so I have lost a lot of supporters
because I've been questioning Elon Musk
and Bobby Kennedy and Trump
and like you
I'm not afraid to speak up
look I gave up my 25 year surgical consultant career
you know to do the right thing
you think I'm not going to do that now
you think I'm just going to keep a few subscribers
keep my mouth shut and go yeah
Trump is our hero
I'm always going to speak my mind and see the truth
and say the truth that I see it as
but there's a lot in the mainstream alternative media
I feel like they're either bad actors
or they're misinformed
and you talked about this in the book beautifully
and you highlight the case that
you know you for example were talking about code
right from the beginning you got it right
but now that you've got these heroes out there
you're pushing the lockdowns, pushing the masks
pushing the injections
and now they're the hero dissidents
and it's like really?
I mean can you just expand on that bit?
Yeah, Maltra and Campbell
and all these people who were pushing the
Doctor Campbell
Doctor Campbell, Doctor of Philosophy by the way
they were pushing it
until it became untenable
or in one case that had a
personal tragedy which opened their eyes
and suddenly okay fine
you know people changed their minds
and yeah that's fine
but they then presented as the
heroes and the go-to people
over something that
over a hoax that they actually bought
and this is a
thing that I've
identified quite a long time ago
is that
after the Covid
hoax broke
suddenly these people started appearing
out of the mainstream
into the quote alternative media
who bought the Covid hoax
and or most of them had
and then
become these
people talking about
the conspiracy
the thing is that so many of them
the great majority came in
and they came in from
a certain specialization
like oh I'm anti-woke as you mentioned
and then they start
Peterson's a classic
I was just going to mention his name
Peterson's a classic because
he came in with a specialization
from a psychology point of view
and then they start
pontificating about
the conspiracy they know
absolutely nothing about
and they get
picked up there's two kinds of
people
that
I would say the negative
variety that came into the alternative media
and one
is that which
knows exactly what it's doing
now they are the few
they're the place people
and then you've got the others
who
they're promoted
like the
place people
because they know next to nothing
about the wider conspiracy
and they're also
those people because I know a few of them
and I've seen them and met them
they are self-promoters
they want the limelight
they will sell their soul to the devil
for the fame and the money
and the people know that
and give it to them
I mean it's very simple
you don't need too many people who completely
in the know of what they're doing
to create
this fake alternative media
and misdirect people
and one of the
flashing red lights
is
are they promoting Trump or not
because
from my point of view
if you're a journalist
or if you're alternative in any way
you don't take political
sides because
the first thing you realize
as you research this
is we live in one party states
actually we live in a one party world
if the truth be told the cult
but we live in one party
states so
you have the right and you have the left
and they move between each other
but the outcome
is invariably the same
the rhetoric is different
the emphasis is different
who they say they represent is different
but the outcome is the same and it just goes on
and on and on
and so you had these people
come in to the alternative media
and invariably they were
eulogizes
of Donald Trump
who is not fighting the
deep state he is the deep state
he's part of it he's a gopher
like all these politicians are
for the deep state but
this is the
way I've seen this
I have this phrase know the
outcome and you'll see the journey
if you don't know what the outcome
is planned to be then everything seems random
it seems to be
bewildering why is this happening
why is that happening why are they doing this
why are they doing it like that because they
much better for people if they did it like that
bewildering
but once you know what the outcome
is planned to be
suddenly these bewildering random
events become very clear stepping
stones to the outcome
and so
what is the biggest outcome
that they want they want a
fusion of humans and artificial
intelligence so artificial
intelligence becomes the human mind
instead of having to manipulate
information
to manipulate perception
you give
people perception direct through
AI that's the idea
and people would be
staggered to see
how far along the
road this has gone
in terms of
manipulating
writing
technologically generated
electromagnetic fields to
infiltrate the brain and the
perception the brain manifests
as a sense of reality
and so the left
in politics
were not the left that I grew up
in that was
challenging the
anti-war the power of the
anti-war they were
challenging the power of what were then
millionaires now billionaires
not that left it's
what we might call the woke left
they've pretty much bought it
and so they can get the hard sell
of this AI human fusion
coming from your Bill Gates
and your Klaus Schwab
and your Ray Kurzweil
Google
who are saying we need
to be connected to
artificial intelligence
because we'll be gods
it's the
it's the next stage
of human evolution
yeah it's
it's the fourth industrial revolution
right
so you give them the hard sell
because they're probably almost certainly most of them will buy it
but you've got a problem
with and you had this
problem certainly
in the time of COVID
these people that weren't buying
that and were very skeptical
of artificial
intelligence very skeptical of
transhumanism and the fusion of humans
and were skeptical
of people like Elon Musk
but
you've got to get them
because in the in the words of Ray Kurzweil
at Google this so called
futurist strange bloke
they all are
from years ago
is that by 2030
they want this
human AI fusion to be
well underway
and so
you've got a period
where you have to get
that pushback
a group shall we say skeptical group
on board
with the AI
and so
out of nowhere
Elon Musk buys
Twitter is allowed to buy
Twitter
because
people just
they want something
to be a certain way
and they'd rather
the false perception that it
is a certain way
than to realize
that it's not
that's because they want the comfortable lie rather than the harsh truth
this is why hope
is a
tremendous
force of manipulation
hope's always in the future
give them hope
and then they'll accept shite now
but so we had this
situation
where the
right as it became known
the pushbacker right shall we say
realized that
it wasn't difficult
that the deep
state quote control the
social media platforms
and control Twitter
and people were thrown off
Twitter for having the wrong opinion
even a mildly wrong opinion
yeah okay and they were saying
what the deep state
controls Twitter
okay yeah I agree with you
I was thrown off it
and then
along comes Elon Musk
and he's allowed to buy it
well
not just he bought it
but a load of people like
Saudi Arabia connected
Qatar connected people that really believe
in freedom of speech were also part
of buying it
and so
he then starts releasing
some of these so called Twitter files
to show that
yeah before I bought it
the deep state owned Twitter
yeah so here's a question
Elon why did they
sell it to you then
why did they allow you
to buy it when you were claiming
to be a free speech absolutist
when the deep state as you call it
had Twitter exactly
where it wanted it
so soon as that happened
I realized it was a scam
not least because I've been tracking
Musk for a long time and realized
he was ticking all the boxes of
the global cult as I call it
agenda
and then
you start to realize very quickly
what the game is
because suddenly the alternative
media I mean people like Alex Jones
who you know
goes back not as far as I go back
but he goes back a long way
who was calling out
the deep state calling out
Elon Musk at one point
suddenly he's on his knees with his
tongue out right
to Trump and to
Musk they can do
no wrong no matter what wrong they do
and
suddenly
this pushback
group
were seeing
him in a totally different light
because now because he
let them back on Twitter
he was one of them
I remember there was
an activist in the Netherlands
called Eva Vlandingerbroek
who did a video in
2022
saying that
Musk is not our friend
and that he's a transhumanist
soon as he bought
Twitter forget all that mate
now he's one of us he's our friend
you can't say anything against Elon
and I saw this
everywhere and so
Elon Musk
suddenly became
the hero
and crucially
he stopped being called out
for all the boxes he was ticking
for the global cult
agenda not these through SpaceX
and Tesla and all these
and still is that was crazy
yeah he still is
pushing that agenda every fucking day
and
people seem to have this massive blind spot
and you know how you talk about this left-right shift
I mean the analogy I give is like a sailing boat
tacking in the wind
it goes that way and that way
starboard, port, starboard
but it goes straight ahead the final destination
is always straight ahead
it's the same and people don't seem to see that
but in the big
you really put it down so eloquently
this
hard sell soft sell
and it's how about
constantly manipulating the public
and ultimately what they want is
you to stay at the casino table
playing the game
what they don't want you to do is go
and walk away
and they sell
you the shite
and people are so desperate
for hope and someone
to lead them and one of the reasons
why I think I like
your book and your message was
because you are
telling people to empower themselves
you're telling everybody lift
yourself up and don't put your hope
in someone else
this is the answer
and this is very difficult
because most people don't want to do that David
see there's so many levels to this
so many
oh there's so many levels to it
and so you move between the levels
and people think you're crazy
if you go outside of their normal
but there are so many levels to
appreciate
it's now
becoming clearer
and clearer and clearer
in the realm of quantum physics
that
your
your consciousness
what science calls
the observer
consciousness in other words
your consciousness is
rearranging
the energy at the quantum
below matter level
to
mirror
your perceptions
this is really
really important
to take your power back
and take control of your life back