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Und die Lollberts.
Ich liebe die Lollberts.
Du weißt, ich liebe Libertarian so viel.
Weil, wenn eine Fussballreise rauskommt, dann fallen sie wie schiefen Suits.
Also muss ich mich nicht über die Lollberts nennen.
Diese Libertarians kommen raus und sagen,
ich bin zufrieden mit Immigration,
aber ich denke nicht, dass die Regierung ein Lärm sein sollte.
Und ich bin so,
dass ich den Wind schreibe.
Weil, wenn etwas muss passieren,
dann werden sie mit ihren Händen gekriegt,
wenn wir die Arbeit machen müssen.
Ich lege dich in einem großen Gericht.
Wussten Sie, dass das 2. Amendment nicht um die Tieren zu kämpfen?
Nein, wir waren nicht in der Regierung geprägt.
Als es jetzt steht,
Lass uns sagen, Grant, was er gesagt hat,
du hast die Geschwindigkeit.
Du hast die Verteidigung.
Du hast nicht die Tieren zu kämpfen,
ohne die Verteidigung.
Also, wenn du dich beobachten kannst,
du wirst von dir besser gewohnt werden.
So, das Argument ist das.
Ich lege es einfach.
Erstens.
Wenn diese Leute kommen und sagen,
Tim ist ein Lüger für die Verwaltungen.
Ich sage, nein, du verstehst es nicht.
Es ist meine Lüge.
Es ist meine.
Ich habe für sie gewohnt.
Ich bin in der Lüge.
Ich bin auf die Lüge.
Wir haben so lange verliehen,
dass wir jetzt konservative Kommentatoren,
Trump-Supporten und Mass
arguing against the 2. Amendment.
Ich sage, es ist nicht so.
Es ist so gefährlich.
Ich werde die Präfise aus dem Weg bringen.
Ja, Tim ist mein Freund.
Es ist egal.
Ich habe nicht auf die Lüge geöffnet.
Ich habe keine Wahl.
Er ist meine Leute beinahe.
Er ist Lulbert.
Eigentlich arguing,
dass das 2. Amendment nicht formuliert wurde,
explizit,
um die Tieren zu veröffentlichen.
Bevor James Madison in
Federalist Nr. 46
und Alexander Hamilton
in Federalist Nr. 29
both argued explicitly
that, yes, it is,
that that's the exact reason
that they wanted us to be armed.
In particular,
because they didn't want to have a standing army,
because they didn't want to be an empire,
because they didn't want to be invaded
or controlled by an empire either.
So they argued very,
very eloquently
that in fact the American people
should and must be armed
to ensure their liberties,
to ensure that they remain a free state.
And mind you, it's not just our founding fathers.
This is also Scotus' rulings.
You had D.C. vs. Heller in,
I think it was 08.
They once again reaffirmed the fact
that yes,
we have to be able to arm ourselves
so that we can defend against tyranny.
So if you want to make the argument
that Alex Pretty
engaged in illegal activities
and therefore his life
was justifiably taken,
by all means,
make that argument.
But please do not make the argument
that he did not have a right
to possess a firearm
or that because he possessed a firearm,
he therefore somehow deserved to be shot.
Now, I'll agree with Tim
that I don't appreciate the hypocrisy of the left
when it comes to suddenly
affirming their God-given right
to self-defense and firearm ownership
when they have spent decades,
basically my entire life,
arguing that I should be disarmed,
that all of us should be disarmed.
So, yes, he and I agree.
They are hypocrites.
However, do not besmirch my people.
The only people that are consistent ideologically,
no matter who's in power,
all the fucking time
because we're actually serious about this shit,
because we actually do appreciate the Constitution,
because we actually do want to uphold and defend it,
because we actually do believe in self-defense
and fighting back against tyranny.
Now, there is an important argument to be had here.
In this case is very complicated.
This particular shooting,
I think, is egregious.
But instead of telling you why I believe that,
let me show you.
Now, granted, this interaction begins
just seconds before the actual interaction
between the immigration agents and PRETTY
and these other female protesters begins.
So, we don't know all of the leading up factors
that began this,
but we can judge based off of the interaction
from where it begins.
And it does appear,
at least on video,
that the aggression does not come from the protesters,
but rather from the immigration officials.
So, in a matter of about 25 seconds,
this turns from what is probably
a minor engagement with protesters
into a lethal shooting.
Now, there are a number of variables
that I think are important to note
that I haven't seen anyone else discuss.
So, let's first point out,
and I can say this with some,
I guess, knowledge,
is because I was just in Dallas
during this incredible ice storm last week.
And what happened,
in fact, just yesterday I was there.
And what I realized is that,
oh, they're standing on ice.
The same thing I've been doing for the past 48 hours.
And let me tell you,
it ain't easy to keep your feet beneath you.
So, I think that that's the first reason
that this escalates so dramatically
and so out of control,
is that it's probably very slick
and very hard to get your footing,
which in my opinion,
is why Alex, Alex is the man who was shot.
He appears to be trying to keep his balance
after intervening,
getting in between himself
and the agent who had just shoved this woman.
We don't really understand why,
but regardless,
he shoves her,
Alex puts himself in between that agent
and the woman who had just fallen.
He puts his hand up.
He's immediately pepper sprayed,
but he's also trying to protect the woman
or pick her up.
But after he's pepper sprayed,
he's probably struggling to stand up
because of the ice beneath him.
He grabs onto the woman
who I think he was trying to help up.
He then kind of tumbles with her.
The agents kind of tumble with him
and they all go flooding to the ground
where things get truly,
truly out of control.
But the very key thing here is,
did he in fact draw his firearm?
Did he reach for his firearm?
And the answer is no.
Based off of all of the footage I've reviewed,
the answer is definitively no.
He did not.
He had his cell phone in his right hand,
there was a firearm that was holstered
the entire time
and even worse
for these agents that ended up firing on him
is that one of the agents
grabs his firearm from the holster
and removes it
and backpedals away from
this entire wrestling match.
Now it happens very quickly, obviously,
and I'm not trying to make this seem
extraordinarily simple.
It's not.
There's a lot of variables,
a lot of factors, a lot of people involved.
But at the end of the day,
what happened was
a man who had not swung at,
drawn on, brandished,
shot at anything,
had not aggressed upon these officers
in a violent fashion,
necessitating lethal force,
was in fact disarmed prior
to receiving any rounds in his direction.
So you have a man who appears to be
probably misguided,
attempting to do something
I would certainly not advise
trying to prevent immigration officials
from carrying out their deportation orders,
going to this protest armed
and tragically
having his life taken.
Now, because it's too early
to say definitively,
I'm not going to say definitively
that he was murdered.
I don't know that.
I think that there's a very good
argument to be made that he was.
But until we have all of the footage,
I'm just going to reserve judgment.
All I'm going to say
at this junction is to me,
given the evidence we have in front of us,
it was definitively a bad shoot,
whether or not that ultimately
means it was illegal
and that these agents will be
prosecuted and imprisoned.
I don't know.
But I think it's important.
And this is really the point
I wanted to get to.
I think it's important
that if you see a bad shoot,
you just say so.
You just say the truth about it,
regardless of what your end goal is,
regardless of what your priorities are,
you have to be honest.
And that's all I'm going to be in this situation.
Was it a good shoot or not?
Did he need to be shot?
The answer is no.
Alex Pretty should still be alive.
Just to show you that I'm being
evenheaded on this.
So should Daniel Shaver.
So should Ashley Babbitt.
So should Breonna Taylor.
There are numerous instances
of cops behaving poorly,
of showing bad judgment
and ultimately shooting people
that did not need to be shot.
All we need to do is tell the truth about that.
It doesn't mean that you want nothing
to be done about immigration.
There seems to be this argument on the right.
First off, I just want to say,
there seems to be this kind of movement
on the right to see
who can be the most callous,
who can be the most depraved,
who can be the most ideologically captured,
who can dehumanize their opponents the most.
Basically, it is a mirror image
or a funhouse image
of the worst elements of the left.
They want us disarmed.
They want us censored.
So let's censor them
and let's disarm them.
Or worse, let's shoot them.
I mean, is that really how we win?
Is that how we progress as a civilization
to just have a race to the bottom
of moral depravity?
I would argue no, it's not.
From Matt Walsh to Tim Pool to Megan Kelly,
all of them are basically beating the same drum.
This guy is an enemy combatant.
Starnovich is doing the same thing.
They are framing him as an enemy combatant
and therefore sure,
not the cleanest shoot in the world,
but gotta break a few eggs,
is basically the mentality.
I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for Alex Pretty,
but I don't.
I don't.
Do you know why I wasn't shot
by Border Patrol this weekend?
Because I kept my ass inside
and out of their operations.
It's very simple.
If I felt strongly enough about something
the government was doing,
that I would go out and protest,
I would do it peacefully on the sidewalk
without interfering via a whistle,
via shouting, via my body, via any other way.
Rewind that back and listen to it again,
but just imagine that it's Rachel Maddow
talking about Ashley Babbitt.
Reminiscent, isn't it?
Doesn't it sound almost exactly the same?
Oh, do I feel bad for him?
I don't care if you feel bad for him.
I'm not asking for you to feel bad for him.
I'm not asking you to feel bad
for Ashley Babbitt either.
I'm just asking for you
to uphold the rule of law, conservative.
I'm asking for you to actually consider
is this a good suit or not?
Because to say that,
well, I wasn't there
and that's why I wasn't shot
is not a justification for lethal use of force.
This is exactly what they said
about Ashley Babbitt in the Capitol.
I also wasn't shot at the Capitol
because I didn't go in there
because I recognized that it was probably a trap.
She didn't recognize that and she lost her life.
That doesn't mean that you need to feel bad for her.
It just means that do you or do you not
believe that that shooting from Officer Byrd was justified.
And if you watch it,
I don't know how you come to the conclusion that it was,
despite the fact that no charges were brought against him.
And this is just, in my opinion,
a very, very similar instance of lethal force being used
when it wasn't necessary
and everyone deciding whether or not it was necessary
on ideological lines as opposed to
looking at the evidence in front of us
and being honest about what we see.
Number one, the second amendment is a right.
I'm the second amendment absolutist.
You have the right to carry a weapon
to defend yourself, not the privilege.
It is a right.
Those rights come with restrictions.
I think you would understand that more than anyone at this table.
One of those restrictions is you have to have your ID
and your permit on you.
We don't know.
Current reports are he didn't have either one of those on it.
At which point, he's not carrying legally.
So this is how far we've fallen.
We now have a second amendment absolutist on Fox News
arguing that you have to have your permit.
Otherwise, I guess you can be shot.
I don't know what the fucking argument is.
Oh, it's an absolute God given right.
No, you don't need your fucking permit.
We shouldn't be arguing that.
That is shit livery.
Hello, we've been arguing against this stuff my entire life
and now because it's a leftist that gets shot.
All of a sudden, he didn't have his permit.
He didn't have his permit.
So, whatever happens to him after that, all good.
Was lethal violence necessary or not?
The answer is no.
He represented no threat.
He had not drawn.
He had not swung.
He had not done anything to be violent.
Yes, he resisted arrest.
And yes, he should have been arrested
for interfering with their operations.
I'll grant you that.
But beyond that, I don't know how you make any argument
that lethal use of force was justified in this case.
And I will tell you the truth.
I'd be very surprised
if these agents don't end up under arrest.
And as has become all too common,
Nick Fuentes and I part ways.
And let me explain.
Because this is such an inversion of reality.
It's honestly disturbing to me.
You stand in the middle of the street with your loaded gun.
You run up on board a patrol trying to arrest somebody
and get in the middle of that.
At that point in time, you forfeit your life.
Okay?
Would it be ideal if he were detained and arrested?
Certainly.
If they knew his intentions, but they don't.
They don't know your intentions.
What they see is that they are surrounded.
They are being chased through the streets.
They are being harassed.
A masked man with a loaded gun
is running up to them at close range and getting physical.
What conclusion can they draw in a split second?
What really do you expect them to do?
So Nick says that if you interfere
with federal law enforcement operations,
you forfeit your life, no, you don't.
You don't forfeit your life.
Now, should you be arrested?
Sure, I'll grant you that again.
But you do not forfeit your life
unless you are a violent threat.
And he was not.
And then Nick proceeds to invert reality
in a way that's honestly so brazen, I'm disturbed by it.
He says that they don't know what his intentions are.
Okay, sure.
Does Alex know what their intentions are?
Does he know he's about to be shot?
Certainly he didn't know their intentions.
Then he says that they're surrounded.
No, Alex was surrounded on the ground by seven agents.
Two women are five, six feet away.
None of the other protesters have sprinted up on them
and have surrounded them.
None of that's happening.
You have seven Border Patrol agents
surrounding one man on the ground
who you have essentially already subdued
and already removed his firearms
so that he couldn't even present a real threat to you.
And then the inversion gets even more dramatic
and that he says, well, they've got this man
that they don't know his intentions and he's masked.
He is not masked.
They all are.
Federal law enforcement agents are all masked up.
He is not.
They are all armed.
He is not when the shock is fired.
I mean, this is pure inversion of reality.
Now, I understand.
Nick Fuentes is very in favor of deportations.
I am too.
We make that very clear.
I am very much in favor of deportations.
That does not mean we have to lie about what happened.
What he said there is a lie.
Three of those bullet points that he listed off
were abject provable lies.
In fact, inversions of reality.
Attributing to Alex Pretty,
what in fact the Border Patrol agents were doing.
It's crazy.
Now Nick goes on to make some very valid points
that in fact, these are pretty radical people,
genuinely ideologically possessed
and genuinely committed to fighting the federal government
in a way that is ill-advised,
particularly given the circumstances
that we're facing right now,
particularly given that in fact, yes,
Donald Trump, if he had a mandate for anything,
it was deportations.
It was to build the wall.
It's not as if that was a secret.
That was basically the number one thing he campaigned on
for a decade straight.
So, if you believe in democracy at all
and you believe in the will of the majority,
well, the majority wanted deportations.
That is true.
And it is true that these people
are trying to prevent that from happening.
But it is also true,
and this is the point that they seem to continuously miss,
is that it is also true
that if you have bad shoots like this
and you lie about it
and you pretend as if it's justified
and worse, you argue that it's totally okay,
well, then you're going to lose the public's support,
the public will to carry out mass deportations.
And I'm not guessing at this,
that's exactly what happened.
From a few months ago to now,
Trump had a plus 10
on immigration enforcement deportations
and now he's underwater by like 15 or 20 points.
It's created, like the swing is enormous.
Now to be clear, I'm not advocating that they stop
because the public is getting queasy.
I'm advocating that they enforce the laws,
but that also applies to the cops
or the Border Patrol agents
who fired on this man unnecessarily.
I think you have to uphold the rule of law
on both sides of this dispute,
lest you just relegate yourself
to some sort of Mad Max Hellscape,
which is where we appear to be headed.
And one of the most bizarre counterarguments I keep getting
is there seems to be this belief or this implication
that because I think that this was a bad shoot
and that these officers ought to be investigated
and if this footage is as damming as it appears
ought to be charged and prosecuted,
that that means that, oh, I'm too soft for this.
Oh, you don't actually want deportations.
Oh, you don't want deportations.
Yeah, no.
I actually want way more deportations
than probably any of you do.
I am arguing explicitly
that you will get no deportations
if you don't get your shit in order
because you need the public to be on your side
to a significant extent
or you end up with every city in America
looking like Minneapolis
as you try to carry out these deportations.
Get it?
And instead we've got the head of the FBI
saying stupid shit like this.
But as Secretary Noam said,
no one who wants to be peaceful
shows up at a protest
with a firearm that is loaded with two full magazines.
That is not a peaceful protest
and you do not get to touch law enforcement.
You do that anywhere,
this FBI is gonna be leaving the charge to Arrest those.
But how was he threatening Border Patrol?
You've collected the evidence, you said, right?
You have the handgun in your possession?
That's right.
And how was he using that handgun
in terms of threatening Border Patrol?
What was the threat?
He had his camera, right?
He was filming it.
That's something that I want the DHS and the prosecutors
because they are the ones investigating that case.
I don't wanna stylize that evidence.
But I trust the men and women on the ground
who are trained professionals
to only use it when it's absolutely necessary.
And I trust Secretary Noam's leadership
and DHS and HSI to do the right thing
as they've always done in these scenarios.
The top federal law enforcement agent in this country
saying that you don't get to show up at a protest
with a loaded firearm and two magazines.
Yes, you do.
According to me, every constitutional scholar,
every founding father, every scoters ruling,
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And as I said earlier,
I do believe that there should be major deportations.
You've had 20 million people or so
come in just over the last presidential term.
So far it looks as if there's been
about 2 million people who have left,
most of them voluntarily
because they're fearful of deportation, I guess.
But there's been, from my read,
300, 500,000, somewhere in there,
I can't get a clear handle on it,
of actual forcible deportations over the past year.
Barely an increase from historical deportation figures.
So we're not even coming close
to what people are demanding.
We're not coming close to what the Cernovichs
or the Tempools or the Aron McIntires
of the world are demanding.
But he still has the audacity to reply to me saying,
all right Clint, I see you're upset about this.
How do you intend to get 20 million deportations,
if not this essentially?
To which I said, well, let me tell you.
I'd start by withholding all federal funds
to every sanctuary state that refuses to cooperate.
I wouldn't have continued funding the welfare programs
that feed the flood of illegals.
I'd immediately prosecute all the politicians
who created this disaster.
I'd prosecute the NGO networks.
I'd fire Bondi tonight
if she refuses to do any of the above.
Trump is doing none of that.
But you question my commitment.
Trump isn't even 10% as serious as I am.
Instead, you run cover for the murder of a guy
who clearly shouldn't have been killed.
It's sick.
I got a little passionate there and said murder.
I shouldn't have, but I think it was.
You could also go after employers,
landlords, banks who kept them there.
You could increase incentives and punishments
for anyone who refuses to leave.
You could legitimately start imprisoning thousands
of illegals who decline the carrot option,
which they're doing.
I don't know if you're aware of this,
but they're offering,
I think it was like $3,000
or maybe it was 2,000
to voluntarily leave,
but really no stick still.
And then I finish off by saying,
no one believes the stick is real,
nor should they, it isn't.
If it were, the exodus would be significant,
but the libertarians are the problem
as the GOP does next to nothing,
same as it always is.
Pure condescension as your side does fuck all.
It's a joke.
And I stand by every word of that.
It is a joke.
And I think that's the biggest point
that I wanted to make here
is that they're pretending as if,
if I don't just go rubber stamp,
that Alex Pretty shooting was A-okay by me,
well then the deportations are gonna,
they're not gonna happen, Clint.
You have to support what looks like extrajudicial murder
or the deportations are gonna happen.
No, no, no.
The reality is,
is that we're getting what looks like a really bad shoot
and not the deportation that you wanted.
And you're blaming the libertarians
for being upset over the really bad shoot.
Well, your president, Donald Trump,
isn't delivering on the deportations.
Not even fucking close to what he promised
or what he campaigned on.
Not even close.
And mind you, all of those things that I prescribed,
he says, well, I've said the same thing.
Trump's not doing them or he can't do them.
To which I say, how do you know?
He hasn't tried.
The vast majority of those things I detailed out,
he hasn't tried at all.
He doesn't talk about.
When Thomas Massey decides that he's not gonna vote
for some enormous spending bill,
does Trump bite his tongue
or does he spend the next year rallying against him?
The answer is, he spends an entire year rallying against him
because he's not exactly a wilting flower.
He's not incapable of making his opinions known.
But when it comes to Congress
continuing to fund these immigration programs
for asylum seekers or illegals or whatever else,
Congress green lights it
and Trump says nothing
because he doesn't care
because he's not an immigration hawk.
It's Donald Trump who just came out last week
and said, you know what, forget it.
We're not gonna be deporting anybody
who works in hotels or in the fields
or in the casinos or whatever else.
One of the stories that I've unfortunately
been hearing this morning
is that Border Patrol agents
have now been given new orders.
Not to, for example,
if they were to run a license plate
and they would come back as that person is an illegal,
that Border Patrol was forced to let into the country
under Joe Biden,
they are no longer allowed to arrest that person.
And is this the first thing?
Even though they know for a fact it's an illegal.
Is this new information
that you're just bringing to light right now
that these new orders?
Okay, and I don't want you to reveal your sources
but you have someone who you trust on this,
you believe this is a matter of official,
actual approach and policy now.
This actually came from two Border Patrol agents,
two separate Border Patrol agents
on the ground in Minnesota.
They're very, very frustrated.
Obviously they feel like one of them actually said
that this feels like we just reverted
to the Biden days.
All of those people, they're good to stay.
So, what are you talking about, Aron?
20 million deportations are gonna happen?
How, when?
Do you think Trump is interested in that?
Clearly he's not.
So, spare me the sermon.
How would you hold the guy
who's actually the President of the United States accountable?
Not political commentators on the internet.
We have a lot of heart.
They said you gotta lighten up on this.
We have a lot of heart for people.
They came in illegally,
but they're good people
and they're working now on farms
and they're working in lunchenets and hotels and all.
And we're looking to get the criminals out right now.
The criminals.
Every once in a while you see a story, we take somebody.
It should be out, cause they came in illegally.
So in theory they should be.
But we're focused on the murderers, the drug dealers,
the mentally insane.
So, now that I've lost all the right-wingers,
let me go over and offend all the left-wingers
if there's any still watching.
Probably not many, but.
So, there is a breaking news story from CNN.
Take it with a grain of salt.
But the allegation is that
Freddie was in another altercation
with ICE agents a week ago.
CNN is learning that Alex Freddie
had a physical encounter with federal agents
about a week before he was shot and killed by law enforcement.
Sources tell CNN that Freddie broke a rib
when a group of federal officers tackled him
while he was protesting.
And in that altercation with five or six agents
he broke a rib.
So, obviously it was violent to some extent.
Now, this is standard fare with all police shootings,
especially controversial ones.
They try and smear the character of the person who was shot
and try and make it seem as if it was more justifiable
because of his past history,
when really all that matters
is what transpired on that day.
Was it justifiable use of lethal force?
Or was it not?
I believe it was not.
But I do wanna talk about
kind of the macro landscape of what we're facing here
because it is a really big deal.
And first off, I wanna say one thing I find most hilarious
about Tim's rant about being the boot is that...
It's my boots, it's mine.
I voted for them, I'm wearing the boot.
First off, you're never the boot.
You really never the boot.
I mean, unless your soldier, maybe you're the boot,
unless you're one of the ICE members, maybe you're the boot.
But even then, you're taking order.
So it's like, you're never, as a voter,
as a voter in the country, you're not a boot.
You're not the boot.
And as a podcaster who endorsed and supported Trump,
that doesn't make you the boot.
I don't even understand how you get yourself in that mindset
that you think that you're wielding power
because you voted for a guy who's not even really delivering
on any of the things that he promised you he would do.
Like, you're the boot.
Okay, so I'm not licking the boot, I am the boot.
Much better.
I don't even know why that's more appealing, to be honest.
But all right, I got one more insulting thing to say.
Honestly, Alex Pretty is closer to being the boot than you are.
I mean, these leftist agitators,
which I'll grant, that's what they are,
are far closer to actually wielding power than you are,
sitting in your studio, or than I am sitting in mine.
I mean, these are truly radical, revolutionary people.
That doesn't mean I agree with them.
But in terms of wielding actual power,
these people are pretty much bringing the deportations
to a standstill in Minnesota.
And they're doing so without firing a shot.
That's wielding actual power.
All right, I've thoroughly upset the right wing.
Now let me talk about the left
and why I'm so concerned about them.
You know, these are really well-oiled
organizations that are doing this.
Now, that doesn't mean that their insurrectionist terrorists
is a lot of the right wingers
are trying to label these people.
All I'm saying is that these people
are truly ideologically possessed and committed.
Existentially committed.
They will sacrifice everything.
And this is the point that I wanted to make,
is that everyone on the right just keeps saying,
they're doing this on purpose because they wanna be shot,
because they want to have martyrs.
And my argument to you would be, yeah, you're right.
So don't give it to them.
Hello, it seems as if the natural conclusion
that you're coming to is, so whatever,
just shoot them all, I guess.
Whereas my obvious counter to that is,
make sure that if you're going to endorse
the use of the state, particularly when it comes
to lethal violence, killing,
that you only do so in a life-and-death situation.
Otherwise you immediately lose the high ground.
Entering into this presidential term for Donald Trump,
you had the Democrats who had opened the borders wide open,
had us on the precipice of World War III,
were telling all of the boys and girls
to basically change their genders.
They were labeling all straight white guys
or just white people broadly as enemy combatants essentially.
They were about as, oh, I have vaccine mandates,
they were about as reprehensible as you could possibly be.
And somehow in a year, given all of that goodwill,
given all of the obvious moral high ground that you had,
you are abandoning it because you just want to stand by
what seems to be a very clearly bad shoot.
Is that prudent?
It seems totally unintelligent to me.
It seems totally unnecessary.
I think that's the thing that really bothers me most about it
is that you don't need to do this.
Just because you say, yes, I think that was a bad shoot
and he should be investigated.
But the deportations continue.
In fact, we're going to spend the rest of our time
yelling at Trump because he's not delivering.
All of those things that he could have been doing
when it comes to pressuring Congress
to get them to actually stop the funding of this nonsense
or to push his DOJ to actually prosecute
the funding sources for this nonsense.
He's not doing any of that.
But apparently that can't be said
because I guess it shows weakness.
And if you show any weakness,
then the deportation stop.
There's some weird mental paradigm
that you guys have like a box that you put yourselves in.
It makes no fucking sense.
It doesn't, it's totally illogical.
All you have to do is say, yeah, bad shoot.
What's going on with these deportations?
Why aren't there more?
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Hey, why aren't they happening faster?
Why is Trump now saying
he's only going to go after violent criminals?
Why is he saying that basically all of his donors
who have employees who are undocumented,
scare quotes, they get to stay?
Why are you not upset with him?
Why are you so upset with the Libertarians going bad shoot?
Bad shoot, that's it, that's all we're saying.
And it's just like, you're our mortal enemies now.
You fucking, you wishy-washy,
you're basically wet paper bags.
As soon as we get into a fight,
you guys just go run it away.
I ain't run it away.
I'm just telling you the truth.
It's a bad shoot.
Just accept that and we keep it moving.
But no.
We have to say that it was a great shoot
and then it's the best thing that's ever,
I've ever seen crystal clear.
Like, what are we doing here?
I got spun off course there,
but I do want to talk a little bit more about
why it's so dangerous to allow this paradigm to persist.
Essentially, like the left, love them or hate them.
Largely hate them.
They are demonstrating that they have a greater commitment
to this than any of us do.
Certainly more than Trump does, by a lot.
Like a magnitude's more.
These are just like foot soldiers on the ground,
20 degree weather in Minnesota.
These people have 10 times the heart
and commitment to this
than basically anybody on the right at this point.
These people are serious as all get out.
So you need to just start there.
Deal with the fact that you are up against a serious force.
I'm not saying that these people are,
you know, physically intimidating or daunting.
I'm not saying that they could win
in an all out war with the right.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying these people are more committed
to their belief system
and seeing it brought to fruition
than you or your leadership
or anybody you know basically.
And I think that's the thing
that you need to really wrestle with.
Do you care about this country more than they do?
Because I'll just tell you,
what it looks like right now, the answer is no.
Now, that doesn't mean that they're right,
just because they have more zealotry.
I'm just saying their dedication to this
is something to behold.
Something to add into your calculus
in like how you proceed moving forward.
You need to understand what you're up against
if you have any chance of prevailing.
And then once you understand the playing field,
then you can actually game plan
and find a way to prevail.
And as of now, it seems to me
that it's just knee jerk bravado.
You know, we're Pinochet all of a sudden.
Well, a helicopter's all over the place.
It's like, it's ridiculous.
And it doesn't come across sincere.
I don't think any of you
are actually ready for any of that.
And I don't know why you're pretending that you are
because it's obvious that you're not.
So if you wanna win,
but you don't wanna become some uncivilized Barbarian,
you can do that.
You're capable of doing that,
but it's going to require courage
and honesty first and foremost.
And that's all I'm imploring you to do.
Just be honest.
Bad shoot, also deportations are extremely important
because if you don't,
well then you've essentially already seeded your nation.
Like you've given it away.
It's over at that point
because once they know that you won't deport,
well then it's just a matter of time
before they get citizenship and full voting rights
and you'll never win an election again.
So I'm on the same side as you guys
when it comes to analyzing why this matters.
But we're totally apart right now
when it comes to how to tactically attack this issue.
And I think you're attacking it
in a totally counterproductive way.
And I think you're going to lose popular support
as a consequence.
And that is popular support that you need right now.
You need to reclaim.
And for the record, I'm not,
and I'm gonna do what you guys don't do.
Instead of blaming Aron McIntyre
and Cernovich and Tim Pool and all these people,
I'm gonna implore you to blame the people
who actually deserve it.
And that is Donald Trump.
He's not serious about this.
He has no intention of even deporting a fifth
of the people that came in under Joe Biden.
It ain't happening.
He's not doing it.
So start there.
Can we just come back together on that?
Can we say, hey,
we still agree that this is a big issue.
Let's move past all of this other nonsense,
this extraneous stuff
and talk about the fact that Donald Trump
is not trying to get Congress to do his bidding
when it comes to the immigration issue in this country.
And if we can actually come together on that,
maybe, maybe we can get action.
But as long as we're just pretending
that oh, I'm tougher than you
because I'm totally thrilled with that shoot,
well, then we're fucking doomed.
That's the truth.
Hate me for saying it, I don't care.
Everything is a scripted reality show.
I criticize ICE, people get mad at me.
They're like, well,
how do you think people should be deported,
da, da, da, da.
Number one, you can pass legislation,
which they haven't done.
All of the stuff they've done on immigration
is through executive orders, a lot of it.
It will be reversed immediately by a Democratic president.
If you do a reality show spectacle
where you're grabbing people here and there, left and right,
and it revs everybody up
and you then have protests everywhere,
no, you don't have a long-term solution.
What you do is you're stirring the pot
and creating like mini civil wars all over the country.
You're not going after employers
that are employing illegal labor.
You're not going after Steve Nguyen.
You're not going after the big hotel magnets.
As is all too often the case,
Tim Dillon has better analysis
than almost every commentator I listen to regularly.
It's crazy.
A comedian, a gay comedian, a morally obese gay comedian,
is better at political analysis than y'all are.
He's right.
They're stirring shit up,
but they're not actually accomplishing much at all.
The deportation rates are barely above Obama's high year.
There are those in the immigrants' rights community
who have argued passionately
that we should simply provide those who are illegally
with legal status,
or at least ignore the laws on the books
and put an end to deportation until we have better laws.
And often this argument is framed in moral terms.
Why should we punish people who are just trying to earn a living?
I recognize the sense of compassion that drives this argument.
But I believe such an indiscriminate approach
would be both unwise and unfair.
It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally
that there will be no repercussions for such a decision.
And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration.
And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world
who are waiting in line to come here illegally.
Ultimately, our nation, like all nations,
has the right and obligation to control its borders
and set laws for residency and citizenship.
No matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons,
the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.
That's the great right-wing wave?
I mean, you're satisfied?
I know you're not satisfied.
So let's put down the swords when it comes to each other
and start talking about the people that you actually voted for
that actually failed to deliver
and let's demand that they do.
When it comes to Epstein,
when it comes to ending the war in Ukraine,
when it comes to ending our relationship with Israel,
at least pulling back ever so slightly,
when it comes to not going to war with Iran or Venezuela,
when it comes to the Epstein list
and focusing on the deportations that we all agree are necessary.
Now, I'm talking to the right-wingers.
I know many of my libertarian audience
doesn't agree with me on that.
I'll convert and convince you eventually
because honestly, why do I have to convince you?
Just fucking look at Europe.
How's it doing?
Big welfare state, massive influx of immigrants
in a very short period of time.
How has it worked out for them?
They're doing great.
Never been better.
Economy booming, free speech is abundant.
No, it's a disaster.
And we are on that same trajectory.
You have to stop it.
If you want to maintain any liberty in this country,
you have to stop it.
And I'm going to stop even trying to argue for it
because it's such a waste of my time.
Borders are imaginary.
Okay, okay.
Well, the 50 million illegals here are not.
They're not imaginary.
The border isn't imaginary or not.
They aren't.
So, how would you contend with that?
I had a great time in Texas despite it being 20,
I mean, it was like almost zero at one day at night.
It was so brutal.
Saw the Lakers, huge comeback win against the Mavs.
It was fun.
Saw hockey game, basketball game.
It was just like me, my brother, my stepdad and live sports.
Talk about a dude trip, right?
And barely surviving in the ice storm of Texas,
which I didn't know was a thing.
But we had a blast and I really did miss you guys.
And I really did want to put out an episode,
but obviously I was gone for a week and I had so much to say.
So I was just kind of stirring, walking around the hotel.
I couldn't fucking say this.
So sorry for the full on rant, this entire episode,
but I'm passionate.
So I got it out.
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