WEBVTT 00:32.080 --> 00:37.800 Control exactly what people think and that is our job. Yeah, what the hell is happening what the hell is happening? 00:48.760 --> 00:50.480 The best on the planet 00:57.040 --> 01:00.440 Not just of the new cycle spinning the wheel of chaos 01:09.550 --> 01:09.950 Oh 01:09.950 --> 01:13.590 That's in the background. Well, welcome to another episode of what the hell is happening 01:14.410 --> 01:18.350 Always a great time to talk about what the hell is going on with all the chaos in the world today 01:18.350 --> 01:21.110 Oh, you know what? I actually I forgot we have our new intro 01:21.110 --> 01:24.590 I wanted to play this clip right at the gate since this is something interestingly with what we start 01:24.590 --> 01:31.250 We ended up last time saying something very interesting that I'm sure many of you already thinking about since Charlie's done a couple interviews in the 01:31.250 --> 01:36.050 fact but here's how we ended last last women's this end of 01:36.510 --> 01:38.690 January right I believe here's the end of the interview 01:40.410 --> 01:45.270 Good to see you Ryan. I'll check in. Well, I'll have I'll have plenty to report back after. Yeah 01:46.270 --> 01:49.810 I'm sure hopefully there's no weird events like last time weather events or whatever else 01:49.810 --> 01:54.470 I hope you know stay safe out there. I always like to throw it throw a little curve bar away 01:54.470 --> 01:57.610 But we're resourceful. We always find a way to figure it out 01:59.930 --> 02:01.130 Right, Charlie, how are you? 02:03.430 --> 02:03.950 Oh 02:03.950 --> 02:05.430 Well in this case to be fair 02:05.950 --> 02:09.590 This wasn't necessarily directed at the people of an archipelago 02:10.250 --> 02:16.510 So and it was happening elsewhere and it happened a couple days after the event actually it happened on the Sunday 02:17.090 --> 02:20.810 Following the event ending on Friday. I say event ending 02:20.810 --> 02:24.250 There were events going on Saturday and Sunday at the convention center as well 02:24.250 --> 02:29.810 But they were it was dollar vigilante related. So so I I yeah, I I had a 02:30.330 --> 02:32.410 You know, I had a fantastic week 02:32.410 --> 02:38.050 Leading up to that and I I got in and out without any sort of problems. I left on the Saturday before 02:38.830 --> 02:41.230 just because I was scheduled to and 02:41.230 --> 02:43.070 everything kicked off the day after but 02:43.670 --> 02:45.090 in terms of the 02:46.230 --> 02:47.110 the pyrotechnics 02:47.110 --> 02:48.550 that that happened 02:49.510 --> 02:55.410 You know, it was it was funny because we had some of the greatest investigative journalists around in the area 02:55.410 --> 02:57.770 So as soon as it kicked off on Sunday morning 02:58.590 --> 03:04.210 Patrick Henningson from 21st century wire is there Josh Sigurdson from World Alternative Media lives there 03:04.210 --> 03:09.210 He's just came out of his house and it was going on Dan Dix from press for truth. They were down there 03:09.210 --> 03:11.130 So they just grabbed their gear and went out in different 03:11.790 --> 03:12.670 directions and 03:13.450 --> 03:15.590 Filmed what was happening and what was happening 03:16.350 --> 03:18.450 was actually a bit of 03:19.310 --> 03:20.030 of a show 03:21.030 --> 03:27.190 Really it ultimately that's what it was now scary and and I'm not trying to be dismissive of anybody who was 03:27.870 --> 03:29.810 Caught in that but what? 03:30.730 --> 03:32.090 Didn't happen was 03:32.090 --> 03:36.770 The them pulling people off the bus lining them up and shooting them all that didn't happen 03:36.770 --> 03:41.610 And what didn't happen with cab drivers getting dragged out and shot and you know in the cat 03:41.610 --> 03:44.510 What did happen was the cabs were lit on fire 03:45.090 --> 03:51.290 The buses were pulled over the people were taken off put up, you know outside and then the bus were lit on fire the oxo 03:51.850 --> 03:56.110 Convenience stores the equivalent of like a 7-eleven in Mexico. They were lit on fire 03:56.110 --> 04:00.030 But they all all three of those components have relationships with the cartel 04:00.030 --> 04:07.970 They they they operate as buses and taxis and convenience stores at the behest of or with the express written 04:08.730 --> 04:11.370 Approval of the cartels and Major League Baseball 04:11.370 --> 04:16.230 They're allowed to operate and if you if the cartels decide that they have 04:16.870 --> 04:19.410 It's time to do a little show of force 04:19.410 --> 04:23.230 Then maybe your convenience stores and your cabs and your buses get burned down 04:23.230 --> 04:30.930 But that's the cost of doing business but but what didn't happen was they didn't destroy the tourism industry by going into the 04:30.930 --> 04:37.410 Hotels and taking people out in the lobbies and and doing all the things that they could have done so in in some respects 04:37.410 --> 04:38.870 it was a bit of a 04:40.150 --> 04:41.110 terrorism theater 04:41.770 --> 04:45.830 Which is good. I'm glad I as opposed to it being the real thing 04:46.990 --> 04:50.150 And but but when it when it's happening, you know, you don't know 04:50.150 --> 04:53.390 You don't know how long it's gonna go and the rumors where they're going to the hotels 04:53.390 --> 04:57.650 They're gonna start doing that so so it was an interesting time to be 04:58.270 --> 04:59.570 paying attention to 05:00.150 --> 05:06.670 You know that sort of street theater. I wasn't there. I'm glad I wasn't there and not that I want to be there for it 05:06.670 --> 05:10.550 But you know, I knew it two dozen people who were still there 05:11.150 --> 05:15.190 Having to deal with that sort of situation and and the chaos that comes with it 05:15.190 --> 05:20.330 So I guess it's a reminder to everybody, you know, everything's normal until it's not 05:20.330 --> 05:25.230 And in when the when the normality ends and you are thrust in the chaos 05:25.230 --> 05:27.850 You have to become an expert on your situation 05:27.850 --> 05:33.230 Immediately and that is tough to do especially if you're in a foreign foreign land, but I think it was probably 05:33.970 --> 05:34.490 ultimately 05:35.430 --> 05:41.750 Maybe a good thing for anybody who sort of experienced that it's it's it's a dress rehearsal 05:41.750 --> 05:48.830 For what can happen when when the lights go off or the power goes off or or chaos sparks because it doesn't take 05:48.830 --> 05:56.490 Too long for people to go from normal to looting if they think that they're going to be out of food in a couple of days 05:56.490 --> 06:00.150 They'll make some decisions that they wouldn't normally do so it's it's it's just another 06:00.750 --> 06:05.450 reminder about how fragile things can be and how how how normal is 06:05.450 --> 06:09.110 Always kind of an air quotes and that that is subject to change 06:09.570 --> 06:13.670 Pretty much on a moment's notice and you know those out there that would be driven to blue loot 06:14.110 --> 06:17.750 First of all, you know it people in positions like that if desperate anybody 06:17.750 --> 06:18.990 I think I get to that position 06:18.990 --> 06:23.570 But it shows you an early position like that or the time, you know that that's somebody who wasn't prepared 06:24.130 --> 06:27.210 That's a lesson for this right like you wouldn't need to be rushing out to loot for things 06:27.210 --> 06:31.010 You might need if not because of what's coming tomorrow what they said might happen 06:31.010 --> 06:34.550 But just because you're always prepared because you have water and resources and things you have 06:34.550 --> 06:37.110 You know, like the important thing to think about but when you say about theater 06:37.550 --> 06:40.710 How and what to what end and what do you how do you read this whole thing? 06:40.730 --> 06:47.970 So I would like what in your mind what actually went down and compare it in comparing to both the mainstream alternative and mainstream coverage 06:47.970 --> 06:52.570 Of what they claimed happened, you know, what's your insight on that and how you see it going down? 06:52.630 --> 06:56.590 And if it was theater, you know to what end by whom, you know, how do you see that? 06:57.170 --> 07:01.150 So if you're the cartel and your guy gets whacked 07:01.670 --> 07:03.550 You have to retaliate 07:04.350 --> 07:06.610 But you have to be careful on how that retaliation 07:07.310 --> 07:09.530 is framed because if you 07:10.110 --> 07:14.890 There's ways in which you can let the world know that you're angry and that you're not gonna stand for this 07:14.890 --> 07:16.410 Which is I think what they did 07:17.190 --> 07:24.230 And then there's other ways in which you can burn your bridge after you've crossed it and and and take the you know 07:24.230 --> 07:31.390 And and really sort of fight if the cartels wanted to fight with the Mexican government and make things untenable for the government 07:31.390 --> 07:34.710 They would destroy the tourism industry and they could have done that that day 07:34.710 --> 07:39.050 That that would have been your six and a half million people that come through just Puerto Vallarta every year 07:39.050 --> 07:42.850 So even if it was just limited to Puerto Vallarta, which it wasn't it was happening elsewhere 07:42.850 --> 07:47.590 But that would be enough to throw in, you know, just an economic catastrophe 07:47.590 --> 07:53.470 So we've got that going on and so when I say theater, I mean if the cartel doesn't respond 07:54.030 --> 07:56.630 That's a sign of weakness on their part, right? 07:56.630 --> 08:01.050 So they do have to respond in a way that the cartel recognizes violence fires 08:01.930 --> 08:07.570 Explosions and by it to be fair the cars exploding. They're exploding because their tires are blowing out 08:07.570 --> 08:11.390 Right, it's not like they were rigged with C4 and they were you know, they were lit on fire 08:11.390 --> 08:15.190 They were made to to catch on fire, but they weren't rigged with like 08:15.690 --> 08:20.290 Detonators and you know things like that the point being that they're doing this to to demonstrate a response 08:20.290 --> 08:23.930 But knowing that they don't want to do it to where it will cause some kind of larger spin out 08:23.930 --> 08:26.170 But sort of just like, you know pushing back slightly 08:26.170 --> 08:31.610 So you got it. Do you think that that is so you so you see it as genuinely that the 08:31.610 --> 08:38.650 Shining bomb that you know the president of Mexico took this action unilaterally because of whatever reasoning was and the cartel just responded 08:38.650 --> 08:41.730 You don't see any influence. Don't know if it was unilateral 08:41.730 --> 08:48.090 I don't know if they're like how do you see this playing in the larger sphere because a lot of the conversation and this is not 08:48.090 --> 08:49.790 For those that are new to this conversation 08:49.790 --> 08:53.510 This is not some kind of let's just find a way to tie in the elements 08:53.510 --> 08:57.910 You know like Israel the United States. There's a wildly clear documented track record of the u.s. 08:57.910 --> 09:04.610 And Israel training cartel members as I know you're going back to I mean even before but you know the most notorious in regard to 09:06.350 --> 09:10.050 It's slipped my mind all of a sudden they made Netflix documentaries about him 09:11.330 --> 09:14.590 The cartel the preview chocolate no, no 09:15.870 --> 09:20.350 God is so crazy to me famous the Netflix did a whole thing about him. It doesn't matter 09:20.350 --> 09:25.070 I'm sure everyone knows I'm talking about that one of the most famous a Sinaloa cartel. I believe and the one and 09:25.530 --> 09:29.630 What's his name? Not chocolate the one that was before that but anyway, um, I 09:30.690 --> 09:35.130 Swear it's so crazy that somebody in the chat will probably say it. My point is that there's documented 09:36.450 --> 09:40.150 You know reports or interviews or you know where they're training 09:40.150 --> 09:46.410 I mean even Israeli media caught that reported on Israel getting caught doing that and so the conversation becomes is this 09:46.410 --> 09:48.710 About some kind of a different 09:49.230 --> 09:50.110 Like right now 09:50.110 --> 09:53.290 I think a lot of people are beginning to recognize that there's a different way the world actually works 09:53.290 --> 09:58.710 That's a lesson global thing right and that's to this local point about whether or not there's involvement with the cartels 09:58.710 --> 10:02.350 Like the DEA getting caught in 2025 literally helping them 10:02.850 --> 10:07.270 Launder their money about whether this was something that was shine and bomb like maybe 10:07.270 --> 10:12.730 Stopping that and this was a response to try to push back on some kind of affecting and I'm this isn't even unique to you 10:12.730 --> 10:18.090 As in Israel, but like a global network of control. Do you see anything that goes that direction or how else do you see that? 10:18.090 --> 10:25.490 That's kind of what I was getting at like the yeah, my my my mind immediately went to Eric Holder and fast in the furious Pablo Escobar 10:25.490 --> 10:29.330 Thank you. I can't believe I didn't hear his name. Yeah, so so 10:30.270 --> 10:35.890 So immediately I started thinking a fast and furious right so so running guns into Mexico 10:35.890 --> 10:40.510 So again, it's like oh the cartels are setting off these bombs. They're committing violence 10:40.510 --> 10:45.230 It's like yeah with the weapons that we sent them. Okay, and then I started to think well 10:45.230 --> 10:49.810 Also, Israel is sending weapons as well and they're doing training. So what is that? 10:51.390 --> 10:58.970 What's that so so what it isn't I think what it isn't is it isn't the government versus the cartel? 10:59.610 --> 11:02.210 I don't think it's right. That's right. That's the government 11:03.690 --> 11:07.770 Government in the cartel have a mutually parasitic relationship, right? 11:07.850 --> 11:10.630 They need each other or maybe that government doesn't need the cartel 11:10.630 --> 11:13.110 But the cartel is there and they have to deal with it 11:13.110 --> 11:15.430 they can that and so I 11:16.610 --> 11:18.670 Don't see them as 11:20.050 --> 11:26.010 Maybe well, maybe they are sworn enemies, but I don't see that as preventing them from working with each other when they need to 11:26.010 --> 11:32.030 So I'm always a bit suspicious about this. I I have maybe you maybe you can help me walk 11:32.030 --> 11:33.350 work this out 11:34.430 --> 11:37.330 Because we've got Claudia shine bomb 11:37.990 --> 11:40.490 President of Mexico Jewish yet 11:41.370 --> 11:48.270 Her policy seemed to be very supportive of Palestinians, which has thrown me for a loop. I don't know what to make of that 11:49.050 --> 11:54.130 I'm a point about whether it's you know, it's not just being Jewish is not necessarily the tie 11:54.130 --> 11:56.990 It's the Zionist element of the Jewish or Christian side of it 11:56.990 --> 12:00.570 So I think that that's you know, I but I go it's all right. I mean to cut you off 12:01.330 --> 12:06.590 We should go into go ahead my assumption is she wouldn't be she wouldn't be the president of Mexico 12:06.590 --> 12:10.730 If she was just Jewish she'd have to be Jewish and Zionist to me. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong 12:10.730 --> 12:17.490 But I did to me what that's a that's the important factor to get into because I do think that that's whether Jewish or Zionist 12:17.490 --> 12:22.870 Independently or you know just Jewish or just sign that there's there's there's our elements of manipulation from the outside 12:22.870 --> 12:29.930 Yeah, I think that does matter like that's the that's the people out there that wanted to argue that the Zionist discussion or Israel is 12:29.930 --> 12:35.610 Devoid of a Jewish element are lying as well, right? So I think it's always important to highlight that but keep please continue your point 12:35.610 --> 12:38.170 Yeah, so I'm I'm 12:38.170 --> 12:42.490 you know, I wondered about this since it didn't break off into a 12:44.110 --> 12:45.550 continued escalation of violence 12:46.230 --> 12:49.070 that it that it felt kind of like pro-wrestling and 12:49.910 --> 12:53.690 And look you can get hurt for real when you're fake wrestling 12:53.690 --> 12:58.390 So it's it's not to be it's not it's not that oh all of this is fake 12:58.390 --> 13:03.550 No, it's it's real, but it's controlled controlled aggression. It's controlled bombs, you know 13:03.550 --> 13:08.150 It's we're gonna and we see this a lot in war too like oh they launched a drone strike against 13:08.770 --> 13:11.670 Iran and then Ron has to retaliate they have to retaliate 13:11.670 --> 13:16.190 But maybe they retaliate by saying we're gonna send a missile tomorrow at 2 o'clock p.m 13:16.190 --> 13:20.290 It hit this place right here. Make sure everybody's not don't know that's what happened last time 13:20.290 --> 13:23.130 Like I feel like there was inscribed reports that that's ultimately what happened 13:23.130 --> 13:27.470 But then Israel just took advantage of it at the after the agreed kind of back and forth. That's what it looks like 13:28.730 --> 13:32.270 What a surprise so so yeah, I am always 13:33.150 --> 13:36.370 Looking for whatever is under the surface right the the the 13:36.370 --> 13:45.110 The obvious is the cartels versus the government, but we know that there's more than that. So I guess I'm wondering I 13:47.370 --> 13:50.270 Guess I'm wondering how this plays into 13:52.810 --> 13:58.630 Israel's pretty I don't know if they've come out and publicly stated this but but for those of us who have been paying attention 13:59.230 --> 14:01.950 There has been a pivot to South America 14:02.270 --> 14:08.830 By the Israelis there they're there, you know, we're starting to hear about Patagonia and we're obviously with Argentina and Malay and 14:08.830 --> 14:15.730 And Venezuela gets gets Maduro removed and then they normalize relationships with 14:16.370 --> 14:22.670 With Israel immediately and start selling their oil to Israel immediately and so you say okay, so Israel is definitely looking like 14:23.970 --> 14:30.990 Operation Condor to I don't know they've got there's their eyes set on South America and and I would say Central America as well 14:30.990 --> 14:34.490 so so is this just the beginning of 14:35.310 --> 14:36.330 sort of the 14:37.610 --> 14:40.730 Pax Judaica in the Western Hemisphere 14:40.730 --> 14:45.350 Well, I think that's exactly what I think we have to always remember is it's not one or the other 14:45.350 --> 14:51.390 I mean we can I think we should and and have in the past discussed which one might be more guiding the other between the 14:51.390 --> 14:54.950 US and Israel that's an important conversation because who's to say I think I have my opinion 14:54.950 --> 14:58.170 But I think you know both of these agendas are the same today, right? 14:58.170 --> 15:03.450 So it's clear that the US has had this Monroe doctrine sort of our hemisphere perspective for a really long time, right? 15:03.490 --> 15:08.230 And clearly that's kind of ebbed and flowed. I mean, I think it's never really stopped, but the narratives have changed today 15:08.230 --> 15:14.270 That's just gone. Hey, like it's just it's crazy how on the I think it's I think what Israel's driving through this administration 15:14.270 --> 15:20.270 Is to make all of this happen in like I think Netanyahu personally feels that his window is closing and when he can effectively 15:20.270 --> 15:24.650 Make all this happen and so Iran's his wet dream of Iran is literally taking place 15:24.650 --> 15:26.710 And I think he his calculus is well 15:26.710 --> 15:31.770 We have to bring Lebanon immediately involved because otherwise we might get this but then Lebanon will still be there 15:31.770 --> 15:34.330 And I think Netanyahu feels that he might be losing power soon 15:34.330 --> 15:39.550 And that's what Israel's saying and so I think all of this is sort of mashing this into one large agenda 15:39.550 --> 15:42.090 I think it has to do with the AI direction the control grid 15:42.090 --> 15:44.610 All right rare earth minerals from Venezuela lithium 15:44.610 --> 15:46.270 I've got you know golden oil as well 15:46.270 --> 15:48.970 I think that's what this is and so I think you're right though 15:48.970 --> 15:52.490 But I think the Israel sort of focusing might just be that all of this is their 15:52.870 --> 15:58.610 Common agenda at this point and I think or or you could argue that this was always what Israel wanted and they're driving the u.s 15:58.610 --> 16:00.330 To do it right, but it's at this point 16:00.330 --> 16:04.470 I just see it as one thing when conglomerate, you know, and I do that's why so I think you're right 16:04.470 --> 16:09.870 But I just see it as like part of the larger ongoing agenda of mashing together their kind of religious Zionist 16:09.870 --> 16:13.910 Prophetic agenda with this kind of AI control structure. It's kind of like all in one thing 16:13.910 --> 16:16.210 I mean look they're building a Gaza freedom city 16:16.730 --> 16:21.110 Technocratic control structure in Gaza which right there is your overlapping point, you know 16:21.110 --> 16:25.170 Really quickly before I get past it just to make sure that it wasn't confusing before 16:25.170 --> 16:29.770 The I couldn't remember Pablo Escobar's name and the point is that's the Medellin cartel different location 16:29.770 --> 16:31.450 But the point is you can see them funding 16:31.450 --> 16:35.590 All of these different cartels like you can see them funding the the Rwanda conversation 16:35.590 --> 16:39.270 You can see them funding with in regard to the Bosnia genocide. It's not a secret 16:39.270 --> 16:43.210 Just for case that was my point was just trying to remember all the different evidences showing that they're 16:43.210 --> 16:49.490 Like literally on almost on the surface working to arm the very people that the government's outwardly saying is the bad guy 16:49.490 --> 16:51.650 We're fighting the history like that is so ridiculous 16:51.650 --> 16:57.430 And so that's what I'm wondering back to you that's kind of full circle to what you just said is if this was in some way 16:58.210 --> 17:01.210 Maybe manufactured involvement with her to get some kind of outcome 17:01.210 --> 17:04.030 But the way I felt that made sense when I first saw it because 17:04.030 --> 17:07.350 Sean Sean and Bob have you seen as you as you pointed out has been pretty resistant 17:07.730 --> 17:13.410 In a lot of ways health wise more than most like pushing back on the gmo corn discussion on a lot of their kind of 17:13.410 --> 17:15.430 You know the bio overlap 17:15.850 --> 17:19.050 But I I see things as well and maybe wonder whether there's more collaboration 17:19.050 --> 17:22.550 So I wondered whether this was her just deciding to kind of just you know 17:22.550 --> 17:26.650 Maybe cut off the head of the snake in regard to how they manipulate mexico if that's the way you read that 17:26.650 --> 17:29.470 You know, I thought that was an interesting thought and we should be considering that 17:29.470 --> 17:32.150 So, you know any thoughts on that and then like how do you see this? 17:32.430 --> 17:34.390 Like do you feel like anything changed and you know 17:34.390 --> 17:36.290 What else to add to this that you saw because you were there 17:36.290 --> 17:38.250 You know at least that you were there during certain points 17:38.250 --> 17:40.890 And then you've talked to a lot of people that were there as it was happening, you know 17:42.230 --> 17:43.830 I yeah, I 17:43.830 --> 17:44.130 I 17:44.910 --> 17:52.170 Just keep wondering if you know, she ran the gauntlet and survived the 30 other politicians that got killed 17:52.170 --> 17:55.610 It's not like you just lose the the race in mexico. It's like 17:56.370 --> 17:57.890 They hang you from the bridge 17:58.550 --> 17:58.850 so 18:00.090 --> 18:05.670 I wonder, you know, I just wonder how much you how much power you really have once you get into that position 18:05.670 --> 18:07.850 You know, you're constantly reminded that 18:07.850 --> 18:12.110 You're one step away from them blowing up your motorcade or you know 18:12.110 --> 18:14.970 Shooting you and you're grabbing your kids or whatever. I mean, so 18:16.230 --> 18:17.010 There's two though 18:17.010 --> 18:23.510 Like think about the americans imagine that self this country operates to and we just don't let ourselves see that like an epstein point or anything else, you know 18:24.290 --> 18:27.930 Of course, I think that's a calculus that most people need to to 18:29.210 --> 18:30.350 Use, you know to 18:31.070 --> 18:34.750 Run through their internal filter when when they start seeing people 18:35.490 --> 18:38.030 Saying and doing things that they don't normally say it's like well 18:38.030 --> 18:41.770 Have you considered that maybe they've been pulled aside and threatened because 18:42.890 --> 18:46.550 You know, you're gonna make a decision. Let's say you're gonna vote one way or another and you're a senator 18:47.710 --> 18:48.830 You know you're 18:49.530 --> 18:52.970 You may have to make a vote simply because you want to stay alive 18:52.970 --> 18:57.190 You or your family wants to stay alive and you can be dismissive of that and you go oh you guys 18:58.170 --> 19:00.010 This is big boy politics 19:00.670 --> 19:05.650 This is the type of of games where people go missing all the time or their cars blow up or things that this is 19:05.650 --> 19:09.810 They're not playing around so when it comes down to this. I think that people need to always remember 19:10.430 --> 19:16.650 Now you may get into politics for all the right reasons and think you're gonna change things and go in there with a good heart 19:16.650 --> 19:19.990 But like putin said, you know when they asked him can you 19:20.610 --> 19:24.530 Work with donald trump again. He says i've worked with plenty of american presidents 19:24.530 --> 19:27.770 They all have these grand ideas when they come into office 19:27.770 --> 19:32.670 And then they get a visit in the white house from the men in black suits and then all those ideas go out the window 19:32.670 --> 19:35.930 And and and of course I think when people hear that they go. Oh, yeah 19:36.570 --> 19:39.310 Cia right no man. That's habad 19:39.790 --> 19:45.710 That's the the habad guys in black suits that show up with their hats and then you they take all your all your good ideas 19:45.710 --> 19:49.890 And they go that's nice. We're not doing any of those from now on you work work for us 19:49.890 --> 19:52.370 and so I I think that people need to to 19:53.010 --> 19:57.130 Remember that that's a thing. I mean and by the way putin saying that I don't I don't 19:57.710 --> 19:58.110 I don't 19:58.110 --> 20:02.530 Say that he's off the hook either because there's plenty of pictures with him with all those guys standing behind 20:02.670 --> 20:03.810 his desk as well. So 20:04.350 --> 20:08.330 I actually only point that out because I think if anyone would know it would be 20:08.750 --> 20:09.110 hooten 20:10.390 --> 20:15.530 To point out and I you can speak for yourself on this is I imagine we probably agree is that that's no way to give 20:15.530 --> 20:17.730 Like a pass of accountability, right? 20:18.470 --> 20:22.590 And this and I think it's important to think about because I I addressed this the other day when it came to like even trump 20:22.590 --> 20:23.510 Like let's just say 20:23.890 --> 20:27.950 It like right now interestingly flushing out and we can get into this when we get into ron 20:27.950 --> 20:30.190 I want to do one more point about the cartel with bondy real quick 20:30.190 --> 20:32.770 But the the the point of whether he was 20:33.230 --> 20:39.830 tricked or or played by net and yahoo and I think that is the reality and it still does not I think trump is still clearly 20:40.710 --> 20:45.750 Everything that makes them like what I think he is, you know as what he's shown you throughout this administration 20:45.750 --> 20:47.510 I think is very clear whether or not 20:48.050 --> 20:50.190 He was played into this thing with ron, you know 20:50.190 --> 20:56.470 But the point is if ultimately net and yahoo did kind of play him using the threat of nukes and ron or whatever 20:56.470 --> 21:01.530 You know it's the point with that would in some way remove us a level of accountability not entirely but 21:01.530 --> 21:05.470 You know he felt pressured so that is some like it's not like he just woke up and goes 21:05.470 --> 21:08.750 I'm going to kill a ron because I want to but it's still some level of accountability 21:08.750 --> 21:13.410 But thinking about that in a larger sense if like say his family is being threatened or like rfk jr 21:13.410 --> 21:18.710 And and israel the comments were always being threatened by israel. Okay, maybe first let's prove that 21:18.710 --> 21:21.110 But does that then make him no longer responsible? 21:21.450 --> 21:23.870 Does that make him no longer guilty like there's a level of that 21:23.870 --> 21:27.430 My point is if we don't know for sure we just can't even consider that 21:27.430 --> 21:31.110 Like if there's just no way you can involve that in the decision making we have to address 21:31.110 --> 21:34.390 What's happening? Do we think this is wrong or right? Do we agree with why it's happening? 21:34.770 --> 21:38.170 Whether he's being forced into it first again has to be proven 21:38.170 --> 21:40.450 But whether or not how does that change our lives? 21:41.070 --> 21:45.190 We have to always treat it as if regardless of whether they're blackmailed 21:45.190 --> 21:49.270 We have to stand for what we know is right and then address those consequences 21:49.270 --> 21:53.570 You know like if you were trump and that was happening you should have stood up and said israel's threatening to nuker on 21:53.870 --> 21:55.350 And they're trying to force me to do it 21:55.350 --> 21:59.430 You know, maybe that would have ended up with them doing exactly that but that threat is always still there 21:59.430 --> 22:03.870 By not dressing it you let that threat continue to guide the world to control everything else 22:03.870 --> 22:06.350 That doesn't seem like good math to me, you know 22:06.350 --> 22:12.430 And by putting yourself in a position where you can get compromised you play it's your own fault too 22:12.430 --> 22:14.410 Like hey bobby kennedy, you know 22:14.930 --> 22:16.670 Israel's gonna whack me if they well 22:16.670 --> 22:20.910 Maybe you shouldn't put yourself in a situation where you gave them the evidence that they needed to put you in that 22:20.910 --> 22:24.330 In that spot. So again, there's there's responsibility on both ends 22:24.330 --> 22:27.470 And you knew the job was dangerous when you took it if you decide to become a 22:27.470 --> 22:31.470 United States senator god for the president of the united states 22:32.030 --> 22:37.670 You have to understand if I know it you know it that you have put your entire family in danger by doing that 22:37.670 --> 22:43.390 And now you have to play a game of not stepping on the mind on the minds in the minefield and hope that you don't 22:43.390 --> 22:44.670 Blow yourself to smithereens 22:44.670 --> 22:48.450 But again, do I have sympathy for those people zero 22:49.190 --> 22:55.090 None I I don't care what Lindsey Graham did in the past to put him in this situation. He is a trader 22:55.850 --> 22:57.810 right, so so again 22:58.450 --> 23:04.010 That the the the israelis or the russians or the whoever they manipulated me into doing it 23:04.010 --> 23:06.050 Okay, well, it's still you doing it 23:06.050 --> 23:10.230 It's still your fault for being a you know being able to be manipulated 23:10.770 --> 23:14.150 And and so yeah sure I get it that other people are exerting 23:14.630 --> 23:20.650 Undue influence on you, but like let's not pretend that this is something that just started yesterday 23:20.650 --> 23:24.570 This has been going on forever if you get into this world of politics 23:25.110 --> 23:29.290 You're in it because you're in it for some personal reasons you're in it because it gives you 23:29.790 --> 23:35.890 You know everything that you want money power ego fame fortune women kids whatever it is you're into 23:35.890 --> 23:38.810 They'll give it to you but there's a price that comes with it 23:38.810 --> 23:42.070 You don't get to you don't get to pick the songs that they play man 23:42.070 --> 23:45.310 You just have to dance if you're if you're trump you got to get out there and you dance 23:45.310 --> 23:49.930 But you do not get to pick the songs and and if and if he ever complains about not getting to pick the music 23:49.930 --> 23:52.270 I have zero sympathy for him because again 23:52.830 --> 23:58.770 You knew the job was dangerous when you took it and you you decide to get into these and you make decisions that impact people's lives 23:58.770 --> 24:02.870 So if if you make the wrong decision and some bad guy whacks you oh well 24:02.870 --> 24:04.990 I just don't have sympathy for these people 24:05.370 --> 24:08.710 Well, and like the point you're making that's if we knew they were compromised 24:08.710 --> 24:10.410 But see a word of point where we don't even know that for sure 24:10.410 --> 24:13.650 So now they get whacked and now we won't even know for sure whether they were compromised or you know 24:13.650 --> 24:18.030 It's like we just have to go at this with what we know we can prove and and what we know is right 24:18.030 --> 24:22.430 I mean this go back to basics guys same point I make with constitutional rights and everything fire in a theater 24:22.430 --> 24:24.270 We need to go hardcore back to basics 24:24.270 --> 24:26.790 It's clear how these things are being used against us, you know 24:26.790 --> 24:30.990 And I think I think that like I really do genuinely believe that that's how this works right now 24:30.990 --> 24:34.250 And I think that's what's so confounding for this whole system is that it seems 24:34.670 --> 24:39.830 A lot of people hopefully the majority are now starting to you know open their minds to that real possibility 24:39.830 --> 24:44.990 I kind of framed that way yesterday where like I think we're at a point where you know with Trump, you know 24:46.110 --> 24:49.030 Clumsily lying about what's going on in Iran like I forget the last one 24:49.030 --> 24:51.850 It was whatever the lie was about you know first saying that it was wrong 24:51.850 --> 24:55.870 No, no now with anybody could have the tomahawk, you know just lies that anybody can see you know 24:55.870 --> 24:57.550 And it's like I just hope I mean 24:57.990 --> 25:00.830 Iraq I you probably agree. I think it was this obvious then too 25:00.830 --> 25:04.990 I just think that the situation has changed and now I'm hoping and this is what I believe 25:04.990 --> 25:07.970 Is that more people care about the truth and they do about their team 25:07.970 --> 25:12.590 And that's what that point comes back to about whether they're compromised it ultimately comes back to identity politics 25:12.590 --> 25:17.070 It says you care more about the person the team than you do about whether or not the you know 25:17.070 --> 25:21.030 The outcome what you're actually fighting for is is the end point. It's just crazy to me 25:21.030 --> 25:27.670 Well, I wonder if recently it seems like there has been in in a way that I haven't seen since 25:28.150 --> 25:31.510 Since forever. There's been a lot of trump people that are sort of 25:32.590 --> 25:36.190 Has he's crossed a lot their line in the sand for some of them 25:36.190 --> 25:38.410 And I'm glad 25:39.310 --> 25:41.970 I'm glad I mean what took you so long 25:41.970 --> 25:47.770 I suppose everybody's got a different line and and maybe if you if you voted for him and you you desperately wanted to believe it 25:47.770 --> 25:50.190 Maybe maybe just you were willing to 25:50.670 --> 25:51.730 allow him to 25:52.370 --> 25:56.670 Lie on the campaign trail about a million things. I'm gonna make this great. I'm gonna make that terrible 25:56.670 --> 25:57.310 I mean whatever 25:57.930 --> 26:01.050 But all I need you to do is keep one promise man. Do not 26:01.050 --> 26:05.090 Start another war. We can't afford it. We don't need it 26:05.670 --> 26:11.610 Morally socially economically. It's bad. It's it's just bad all the way around whatever you do 26:12.590 --> 26:15.250 You give Israel money because I know you're gonna do it anyway 26:15.250 --> 26:17.490 You're gonna give them weapons because I know you're gonna do that 26:17.490 --> 26:20.770 But we'll just don't start the war and then they do it 26:21.470 --> 26:24.930 And their reasons for doing it are so nonsensical 26:25.770 --> 26:32.410 And the information that they're giving us back from I don't know whether it's pete hexit or trump himself 26:32.410 --> 26:38.350 You know, we're winning bigly. It's the most biggest winnest winningest winning war ever and you just go 26:38.870 --> 26:41.150 Are these words coming out of your mouth? 26:41.310 --> 26:44.710 You sound like you're six and you're just making it up and it feels 26:45.250 --> 26:52.050 So cartoonish at a time when you need serious people in the room to prevent world war three from really kicking out 26:52.050 --> 26:59.010 And you get a guy that's that that comes in front of a microphone and says we've destroyed everything in Iran that's worth destroying 26:59.010 --> 26:59.530 I mean 27:00.450 --> 27:03.730 What a what a blatant lie like I almost 27:03.730 --> 27:08.830 I almost hope that they prove him wrong after a statement like that, you know, but I don't seriously 27:08.830 --> 27:15.090 I don't wish that and I don't wish I know what that means and so I'm trying to be like a decent human being and not 27:15.970 --> 27:17.210 want, you know 27:18.150 --> 27:18.670 That 27:19.450 --> 27:22.090 But it's just so frustrated 27:22.090 --> 27:29.070 I hope the people that are jumping off the trump bandwagon in droves wake up and realize that this doesn't mean that you 27:29.530 --> 27:35.990 Have to support the blue team. You don't understand that you don't have to pick either side here. There's a third option 27:35.990 --> 27:37.590 There's many options 27:38.250 --> 27:41.450 but but for those who are are frustrated with trump like 27:42.170 --> 27:43.210 I mean, I guess what? 27:43.970 --> 27:44.790 Welcome to the party 27:46.810 --> 27:48.810 But to your point for you too far away from it 27:48.810 --> 27:55.650 They're like what even if a statement like especially if it's accurate like if he if they just said which even trump's truth post said 27:55.650 --> 28:01.170 That we will now bomb, you know, the easy targets because they're not responding or whatever he made the the point was 28:01.670 --> 28:05.130 Everybody was like that's a that's that's intent to genocide right there 28:05.130 --> 28:10.370 You just made it explicitly clear or war crimes at the very least that you're going to target things that are not military targets 28:10.370 --> 28:14.750 That's undeniably clear. We already know what's happened. So if Hague Seth comes up and says work, you know 28:14.750 --> 28:19.690 Bombed everything that's not, you know, whatever a statement was like there's no way you don't take that as 28:20.350 --> 28:21.450 whether like, okay 28:21.450 --> 28:26.610 Either a crime of how far over the top it is with all the things that we know they're bombing you can prove schools 28:26.610 --> 28:28.190 It's like every other time hospitals 28:28.190 --> 28:33.250 But that ultimately that doesn't even remotely align with how this thing started like 30 seconds ago 28:33.250 --> 28:35.410 Obviously even before that no war at all 28:35.410 --> 28:38.930 But now we're going okay limited strikes just to get them to the table 28:38.930 --> 28:42.690 Oh, just to make sure that we can decapitate the leader. Well, this is all happened 28:42.690 --> 28:44.970 And so what is what are we why is it continuing? 28:45.290 --> 28:49.330 Bombing more places because israel's the one driving this and trump doesn't seem to under 28:49.330 --> 28:53.270 I mean, I'm wondering whether he's always been involved with that which is where I've been so far 28:53.270 --> 28:59.130 Well, right now with what's happening that he is now genuinely starting to recognize that he is being played by his own team 28:59.130 --> 29:04.230 You know, I think that's very important to think about because I mean the recent reports are whether now he's going 29:04.230 --> 29:06.250 Oh, well, which is so embarrassing 29:06.790 --> 29:11.490 Kushner and wickoff told me this what kind of fucking I shouldn't cuss. I'm sorry. Like I'm an a wake up 29:11.490 --> 29:18.410 What kind of leader makes that kind of statement you throw your under like that's just that is the weakest statement in the room 29:18.410 --> 29:24.830 Sorry, I'm ranting now, but it's a weak statement, but good. I'm glad he threw those two guys under the bus 29:24.830 --> 29:30.510 They deserve to have the bus drive right over them. I think jared kushner is a bad guy. I think he may be 29:30.510 --> 29:31.350 You know 29:31.870 --> 29:35.830 He may have some I mean he may be trump's handler and some weird sort of way 29:36.470 --> 29:37.850 Imagine that imagine being 29:38.510 --> 29:40.330 Your father-in-law's handler 29:40.950 --> 29:42.870 Howling for Thanksgiving would be weird 29:42.870 --> 29:44.510 but uh 29:46.250 --> 29:47.590 But this is 29:47.590 --> 29:48.610 you know 29:50.710 --> 29:52.390 Do we do we 29:52.390 --> 29:57.590 Take pete hegseth away in handcuffs and and drag him to the hag and make him answer 29:57.590 --> 29:59.750 I mean, so if you've bombed everything 30:00.370 --> 30:07.190 Worth bombing then the bombing's done, right? Exactly, right? And now the next thing that's not worth bombing by your logic 30:08.010 --> 30:13.890 So so okay, so now we're bombing things that aren't worth bombing which as you said is a war crime 30:13.890 --> 30:16.170 So we could we can lock people up for that 30:16.170 --> 30:21.030 But I don't think they understand the perception of this from 30:21.690 --> 30:25.310 The general pub. I mean outside of america obviously nobody's 30:25.310 --> 30:31.490 I have a hard time with this though because I look I think hegseth and almost everyone he's got around him are like 30:32.130 --> 30:36.050 I'm surprised they can tie their shoes in the morning without with with a way that they put this stuff forward 30:36.050 --> 30:40.170 Doesn't mean they're you know, there's people that could have been more tactful about this just as 30:40.170 --> 30:45.850 Malicious and evil but would have presented. Well, you know, so I'm wondering if that's the case both because they're there 30:46.170 --> 30:51.410 Which I think is insane the first place with anybody else around all the other people can see that they're people at the top 30:51.410 --> 30:54.810 Are ridiculous their own people that either that's you know them being there 30:54.810 --> 30:58.370 The ongoing statements driving away from even what trump just said 30:58.370 --> 31:03.530 How do we not see that as either trump has always been on a different non-america first agenda? 31:03.530 --> 31:06.770 Which is possible or that like I said, we're literally watching them 31:07.430 --> 31:12.410 Got like have control over this and and it's like hegseth is a religious Zionist 31:12.410 --> 31:14.870 It's very clear he said this out loud, right? 31:15.090 --> 31:17.710 So and and trump has made it clear now that a lot of these things that are happening 31:17.710 --> 31:19.470 Like you can go back to his first administration 31:19.470 --> 31:25.630 He gave the military the authority to carry out orders without him like the the higher us remember that with the 31:26.190 --> 31:30.610 Largest non-nuclear bomb that became very clear. So now we have this disconnect between trump 31:31.090 --> 31:33.350 And then the leadership. So if that's hegseth 31:33.350 --> 31:41.270 Doesn't alarm anybody that he may be taking directions from something other than trump, you know 31:41.270 --> 31:46.210 This is demonstrating the agenda for it's actually being driven from and you like if you want to argue with some other country 31:46.790 --> 31:49.430 Show me the evidence. I'm all for I'm all for acknowledging that 31:49.430 --> 31:52.910 I just want americans to see that this is happening like it's a pretty obvious reality 31:52.910 --> 31:55.710 That this is not being driven by what we think you know what I mean 31:56.230 --> 32:02.850 Yeah, and we're starting to move into the realm of fantasy world as opposed to actual targets, right there 32:02.850 --> 32:08.770 So at first it's like we've got to get their nuclear facilities because of you know the reasons and now it's like 32:09.410 --> 32:11.590 Trump was chosen by god 32:12.170 --> 32:14.970 And we're on a holy mission and it's like, okay 32:14.970 --> 32:19.350 Well, then then now now we're in a really weird spot because what are you gonna do? 32:19.450 --> 32:23.970 Am I gonna sit you down at the negotiating table and say what does god want for i mean 32:23.970 --> 32:29.530 What is your god want in this discussion? You know what I mean? It's like now we're we're not even dealing with 32:30.130 --> 32:35.450 Human to human negotiations now you've dragged in the eternal spirit into this who's also 32:36.030 --> 32:37.910 Apparently a real estate 32:38.490 --> 32:38.910 land 32:39.890 --> 32:41.810 specialist who you know on 32:42.490 --> 32:48.290 Contract law over 2,000 years of whose land is whose and and you start to get into this this world 32:48.290 --> 32:51.190 Like my god is better than your god and and it's like okay 32:51.810 --> 32:56.290 This is it's all it's one thing if we're having this discussion in some debate somewhere 32:56.290 --> 32:58.450 But it's quite another thing what we have 32:58.970 --> 33:02.350 Carrier groups in the persian golf we have we have people in the red sea 33:02.350 --> 33:07.530 We have we have troops all over the place that need somebody that I mean 33:09.850 --> 33:13.830 Rumsfeld would roll over in his grave if he saw pete hexeth right now 33:13.830 --> 33:16.870 I mean the the the weak the weird 33:17.470 --> 33:17.750 weak 33:18.930 --> 33:24.650 Cartoonish leadership of him. I mean I swear to god. I think they picked the people for his cabinet 33:25.210 --> 33:29.210 Based on the way they look like they look like television parts 33:29.210 --> 33:31.830 I this is that too. I think it's a lot of performance here 33:31.830 --> 33:38.850 What I mean is that they were chosen because they're weak because they're incompetent because they and and even worse 33:38.850 --> 33:43.390 Allowed to be to think that they're at the top of their game like a cash patelle 33:43.390 --> 33:48.570 Like I they seem to exude this like self-confidence that's wildly unjustified and then their actions 33:48.570 --> 33:52.430 The belied the lie that I think that's my point like that. This is like the end 33:52.430 --> 33:56.050 Look, here's the important thing. I think it won't be to think about with the overlap of israel's agenda 33:56.770 --> 34:03.290 Their religious belief from a zionist perspective is whatever you want to call religious probably the wrong word with the understanding of where it starts from 34:03.290 --> 34:05.950 But that is the at the west collapsing is one is 34:06.430 --> 34:10.790 One of the major parts that brings on the end times and this is what people like that think and so zionist 34:11.510 --> 34:11.910 Pegseth 34:12.530 --> 34:15.630 Believes that this brings the you know that the west must collapse, you know 34:15.630 --> 34:18.670 And so this this is they these are people in these positions of power 34:18.670 --> 34:21.770 And so that might be something he's willfully driving with actions 34:21.770 --> 34:25.710 But I wonder if it's that they've been placed here because this country is now bringing 34:25.710 --> 34:31.210 It's I mean look at how clearly we are on the decline as the government as their actions what they do in the world 34:31.210 --> 34:32.710 I feel like that's being engineered 34:32.710 --> 34:37.910 Like genuinely engineered to where we are collapsing in front of the world for that output or you know 34:37.910 --> 34:42.650 Maybe with israel's perspective to drive war to the united states to create that kind of situation 34:42.650 --> 34:45.130 I just want to reiterate. This is not some hypothetical 34:45.810 --> 34:49.990 This is then the gavir smotrich even netanyahu is a loot 34:49.990 --> 34:53.910 I mean the amulet conversation like they genuinely believe this reality 34:53.910 --> 34:57.390 And I think we have to realize that that's not some tangential side thing 34:57.390 --> 35:02.670 They believe that needs to happen and they're guiding us right now through this administration. That's just terrifying, you know 35:02.670 --> 35:07.450 Yeah, and it reminds me of what chomsky was saying when he was arguing with this reporter 35:07.450 --> 35:10.950 The reporter was saying what do you say? I don't believe the things that I say and he said no 35:10.950 --> 35:14.310 If you believe something different, you wouldn't be in the seat that you're in 35:16.010 --> 35:21.010 Pegseth like do I think that he's being manipulated by israel? Yes, but 35:21.010 --> 35:26.310 I don't know how much manipulation they need to do because I think he genuinely believes this stuff 35:26.310 --> 35:31.290 And again, he wouldn't be in the position that he's in if he didn't believe it because he he he fulfills a couple 35:33.190 --> 35:35.470 Ticks on the checkbox 35:36.130 --> 35:36.570 he's 35:37.270 --> 35:42.810 He's controlled by israel you got to have that he looks the part and he's kind of stupid 35:43.270 --> 35:49.130 So you can blame him. So you put these incompetent people in there the pam bandies caspital's 35:49.790 --> 35:56.070 Hexits of the world who look kind of the part, right? Oh, well, maybe not caspital, but the other ones they looked the part 35:57.050 --> 35:57.410 and 35:57.970 --> 35:59.770 But they're kind of incompetent 35:59.770 --> 36:02.790 And when it falls apart or when they make some dumb 36:02.790 --> 36:03.910 dumb decision 36:04.270 --> 36:08.090 Which is a decision that was being made for them from behind or the they were 36:08.650 --> 36:13.710 Influenced to make then you can just say well, what did you expect when you got a guy like pete hexeth off fox news 36:13.710 --> 36:16.390 Yes, exactly. We're really going to figure it out. I mean, he's a dummy 36:16.390 --> 36:20.930 So I think that those I think that again, it's like you go through school 36:20.930 --> 36:24.990 You get a degree you work your ass off and you go if I'm if I'm the best in my 36:25.490 --> 36:30.330 Career in my field. They'll they'll promote me to the top and then like you see what happens in politics 36:30.330 --> 36:35.390 It's like let's take the best. I don't want the best. We can't compromise them 36:35.390 --> 36:41.150 We can't discard them later like that. No, let's take kind of the mediocre and let's elevate them 36:41.670 --> 36:45.610 They'll think they won the lottery. They'll think exactly. I'm so smart. Look at me 36:46.410 --> 36:51.650 And then their arrogance will get them into all sorts of trouble and then we can throw them away when we're done with them 36:51.650 --> 36:55.850 And and or you you could have known or any of the rest fail upward 36:58.130 --> 37:00.090 Promote you after you get exposed for being a criminal 37:00.650 --> 37:02.750 Every time but you got to have to have a makeover 37:02.750 --> 37:07.730 Right after everyone you're going to move up a level. You've got to get the extensions and the 37:07.730 --> 37:09.150 You know the whole thing 37:09.890 --> 37:13.170 Well before we go continue to I want to get into more of the wrong conversation 37:13.170 --> 37:18.910 But this really does all interconnect in a lot of clear ways on the cartel point. There was another another 37:19.550 --> 37:20.570 report that came out 37:21.090 --> 37:23.370 And this this was the independent 37:23.370 --> 37:25.850 This is just on the news break app that I'm showing it here 37:25.850 --> 37:29.050 But the independent with the platform that reported it 37:29.710 --> 37:30.610 Trump's AG 37:30.610 --> 37:36.790 Pam Bondi is moved to heavily guarded military base after threats over abstin files from the cartels 37:37.470 --> 37:41.270 Does that make sense to you just on the title already like when I read that I'm like, what did I misunderstand? 37:41.270 --> 37:48.050 Wait, so you're telling me that so the cartels are matted bondy for the way that she's not released the appropriate information 37:48.050 --> 37:49.330 That makes sense 37:49.330 --> 37:53.790 It says attorney general Pam Bondi's reportedly been moved to secure housing on a washington dc area 37:53.790 --> 37:57.290 Apparently like a month ago is what the reporting which is being discovered now 37:57.290 --> 38:00.470 And which I guess I haven't seen it that much which seems to make sense 38:00.470 --> 38:06.290 Militia militia base, which they're bombing these right now after she received threats from drug cartels 38:06.870 --> 38:08.510 And those angry with her over well 38:08.510 --> 38:12.290 Here's what's interesting and those angry with her over the handling handling of epstein 38:12.290 --> 38:14.990 It goes on to essentially make the argument that it's cartels 38:14.990 --> 38:21.130 But what's interesting to me is who would be mostly angry with them for not doing the right thing about the files 38:21.130 --> 38:22.910 Pretty sure it's not mostly democrats 38:25.390 --> 38:28.690 If anyone would want to be car bombing 38:29.650 --> 38:31.210 Pam Bondi it would be the 38:31.870 --> 38:36.290 citizens of the united states of america who are who would like for her to do her job 38:36.890 --> 38:43.210 But what's interesting more so than anything is that right now they're manufacturing this kind of narrative about like 38:43.210 --> 38:48.110 I do very much think as we discuss that there's more connections there than not and that they're 38:48.110 --> 38:50.730 Create like I don't think that even makes sense on its face 38:50.730 --> 38:55.610 But so let's just make a story where the cartels are matted bondy because we need you to think about cartel bad guys 38:55.610 --> 39:00.390 Even though i'm not even suggesting they're not but clearly it's like anything else that's talking about proxies 39:00.390 --> 39:04.990 I think we're dealing with and and then because the epstein files like why not just mash it all together 39:04.990 --> 39:08.750 Like I just don't even understand this. I think I would argue. This is probably entirely made up 39:08.750 --> 39:13.170 Just my gut. What do you think an intern who's pulling names? I was like pan bondy 39:14.350 --> 39:14.750 Taliban 39:17.010 --> 39:20.070 Crystal meth. I don't know we'll find it. We'll make a headline out of that somehow 39:21.270 --> 39:26.690 It's very strange. It's well. This is the the mainstream corporate media trying trying to to 39:27.690 --> 39:32.730 Harness your righteous anger, right? You're you're if you're angry about the hey, well, I'm angry about the 39:33.850 --> 39:39.290 Epstein files too and it's like oh the cartels and I have something in common now. They're angry about it as well 39:40.210 --> 39:43.610 Like the like the cartels care about the epstein file. I mean come on 39:44.110 --> 39:47.710 Well, I don't even get how that connects like, you know reading through this 39:47.710 --> 39:53.710 It really just gets into like a just like a broad idea like somehow because evil people are being exposed 39:54.130 --> 39:57.830 Like that like oh, well, it must be that you know, it just didn't make sense like I haven't even seen 39:57.830 --> 39:59.250 You know either way 39:59.250 --> 40:04.710 What I think this comes back to as it says she isn't the only Trump administration official who's been moved to military bases 40:04.710 --> 40:09.610 Like I think that they may be worried like this may just be because they think that they're because that they 40:09.610 --> 40:14.630 Poked the bees nest unjustifiably that now that they may be assassinated, you know and legally speaking 40:14.630 --> 40:20.830 I don't see like they have been doing this non-stop. So I think even like I don't how does that work in international law 40:20.830 --> 40:24.490 So if I think a unilateral assassination is clearly illegal 40:24.490 --> 40:27.070 but if if a government starts a war 40:27.950 --> 40:30.750 And then that becomes you know, let's just say a 40:30.750 --> 40:35.750 Well, because Kamini was you know, like assassinating the pope from our perspective like that wouldn't even be a military 40:35.750 --> 40:37.050 So I don't think that's even a legal target 40:37.050 --> 40:42.550 But is that legal then to assassinate the you know head of the other country after they've initiated war 40:42.550 --> 40:44.690 Do you know if that that lines up? I'm not even sure 40:44.690 --> 40:49.330 I think there's always been some kind of like a caveat for just you like executing the president or you know 40:49.330 --> 40:51.770 The leader versus the I don't know any insight on that 40:52.330 --> 40:56.850 I don't know from a legal standpoint. I it just seems like 40:58.730 --> 41:00.510 Moral like from a 41:01.590 --> 41:08.230 We're the producers of the play. We don't kill each other. We've let the actors kill each other. You know what I mean and that sort of thing I 41:09.710 --> 41:13.050 Maybe maybe maybe when you're 41:14.570 --> 41:18.570 Doing things as the American empire at the behest of israel 41:18.570 --> 41:24.290 Maybe there are there's just no line in the sand anymore. Maybe there's no honor amongst thieves and you do 41:24.290 --> 41:27.850 the head of of of I mean, maybe in 41:28.750 --> 41:30.510 Maybe you don't normally do it 41:30.510 --> 41:35.810 But you do it with komani because you know Iran and seven countries in five years and that's the big one 41:35.810 --> 41:36.810 Maybe you don't do it 41:36.810 --> 41:41.110 Well, actually you do it to the leader if you didn't bring in the covid vaccines in Africa, right? 41:41.230 --> 41:42.550 How many of those guys got whacked? 41:43.550 --> 41:46.050 That said no, we're not gonna we're fine. We don't 41:46.470 --> 41:50.590 We don't need fizer and then the guide winds up, right? Yeah, so 41:50.590 --> 41:55.330 I think that they're just worried. I think that you know clearly like that was just a curiosity point 41:55.330 --> 42:01.750 But I think really I don't think any of these governments are I don't think any government in the world would truly be that worried about breaking international law 42:01.750 --> 42:05.470 Should it be in their interest and they recognize a way out of it? I you know, that's my personal opinion 42:05.470 --> 42:07.170 I think that's most governments if not all 42:07.170 --> 42:12.950 But I think that they're just worried about that kind of blowing back on them and this overlaps with the I'm sure you saw the reports 42:13.870 --> 42:17.790 It's interesting the timing on this sort of like trump and the the mines remind me to talk about that 42:17.790 --> 42:20.290 Because it's just funny the way that they feel like they're setting us up with these narratives 42:20.290 --> 42:24.770 But you got the arguments of you know, they are being like a signal that they caught 42:24.770 --> 42:28.570 The Iran was activating sleeper cells, which I'm not certainly possible 42:28.570 --> 42:32.630 But again, because it's like the boy who cries wolf this country is like, okay guys 42:32.630 --> 42:36.890 Like they how many times have they told us aliens are real in the past like six years and we're like whatever, man 42:37.410 --> 42:38.970 We'll just move on 42:40.350 --> 42:41.890 yeah, that was uh 42:43.450 --> 42:47.490 That was one of the things I had a tweet about that. Let me see if I can find it because 42:47.990 --> 42:49.470 when when they they said 42:50.150 --> 42:50.470 the 42:51.470 --> 42:52.490 the story was 42:53.450 --> 42:53.770 that 42:54.610 --> 42:57.110 No, let me let me see if I can find it here. No good 42:57.110 --> 43:01.390 What I find interesting about all this is the timing obviously, you know, but is it possible? 43:01.510 --> 43:06.950 Of course it is and and from moran's perspective because we know that they're doing it to them that it would even make sense 43:06.950 --> 43:09.350 You know, and it's illegal no matter how much you spend it 43:09.350 --> 43:15.470 I mean, that's what's funny to me is that it is illegal based on any understanding of international law, you know to what our cia 43:15.470 --> 43:20.210 They they're proudly, you know, like we've steal we cheat. We lie. We cheat. We steal Pompeo 43:20.210 --> 43:21.690 It's just a fun this perspective 43:21.690 --> 43:24.610 We have of ourselves or rather the government does of its own actions 43:24.610 --> 43:29.110 But the report was that there were sleeper cells in iran and now there was a follow-up report 43:29.110 --> 43:35.370 Basically saying that they were they've been activated essentially and then that's just kind of spun out in the mainstream alternative media with 43:35.850 --> 43:42.550 Sean ryan in like the last discussion, you know, the the drones sniffing or the sniffing bomb drones and iran and the same that 43:42.550 --> 43:46.010 It was all a bunch of hype and they got caught faking that email and the whole damn thing 43:46.010 --> 43:47.570 You know, it doesn't mean it's not possible 43:47.570 --> 43:50.430 But just recognize how often they try to lie us into these things. Go ahead 43:50.430 --> 43:55.510 Well, this was the the tweet from abc news the u.s. Has intercepted encrypted communications 43:55.510 --> 44:00.410 Believe to have originated in iran that may serve and I just said I laughed too 44:00.410 --> 44:04.590 What we need to have is code for we made it up. Oh, that's right. I did see you tweet that 44:04.590 --> 44:08.090 I think that probably is what said in my mind when I went through have you read the entire article? 44:08.510 --> 44:14.330 It is cartoonish. It's like it, you know, we we believe we've discovered something that may have been this 44:14.330 --> 44:19.710 And we and it could have taken place at this time and what might have about like literally like six different versions of 44:19.710 --> 44:23.130 Extending this uh, basically the headline should have been something we're not sure about that 44:23.130 --> 44:25.910 We don't know where and when but maybe like that's literally the whole story 44:26.510 --> 44:31.190 My favorite that they didn't use in this article, but they they probably saved it for another one is 44:31.190 --> 44:34.090 People close to the president's thinking said 44:36.150 --> 44:37.930 Oh, okay, good 44:38.470 --> 44:41.570 So random guys opinion about what trump may think right journalism 44:41.570 --> 44:44.610 It's clear like as we know and hopefully people know by now 44:44.610 --> 44:49.830 This is just so somebody in this in this whether again, manufacturing consent the editor whatever maybe just 44:49.830 --> 44:53.510 Decided to do it themselves, but otherwise guided by something did you go? 44:53.690 --> 44:58.770 Let's push out this narrative like the you see how this works the it's a threat to our democracy down every channel, right? 44:59.390 --> 45:02.230 Here's the narrative and then they frame it their own slight variations 45:02.230 --> 45:06.410 They know the window in which they can operate and it ends up being the same story. There's nothing to go on 45:06.410 --> 45:13.250 I mean has anybody even really followed up other than people in the ima and independent media about like the halloween terror attack 45:13.250 --> 45:18.990 Or I mean I just went over this again from alex jones predictions. What is is is letitia james in jail 45:18.990 --> 45:24.470 How about james comey, you know and the point was every one of these things were designed to fail in my mind 45:24.470 --> 45:27.990 I said the moment they came out when looking through the data. I was like this is going to fail 45:27.990 --> 45:31.410 They set this up. There's nothing to go on or or the autopan discussion 45:31.410 --> 45:35.110 You know it's we talked early on most bag. I think are starting to turn 45:35.110 --> 45:40.070 But like think about today what the actions are taking they're lying about damn near everything, you know 45:40.070 --> 45:43.830 Yeah, well in addition to mc in all five days of an orca puco 45:43.830 --> 45:47.450 I also had a slot a speaking slot and and I used that 45:48.530 --> 45:50.090 to speak about the 45:50.570 --> 45:53.750 rise of the independent media about and and 45:54.430 --> 45:56.050 more importantly I talked about 45:56.870 --> 45:59.790 operation mockingbird and the influence of 45:59.790 --> 46:05.530 The cia early on and how they take the narrative and you know, it'd be one thing 46:06.070 --> 46:07.590 if the mainstream media 46:08.310 --> 46:15.010 And well, sometimes they do it especially with war but for the most part if they took a story and just completely turned at 180 46:15.010 --> 46:18.530 That's too much, you know, it's too obvious when you do that 46:18.530 --> 46:23.950 And so I was kind of reminding the audience like the best propaganda is when you just knock it a little bit off 46:23.950 --> 46:30.490 Of course, you know just enough and gradually over time that you get so far away from it that you there's no 46:31.350 --> 46:34.450 Connection to the truth at all, but but that's the real 46:35.230 --> 46:40.070 Key, I mean if you want to have proper. I'm not trying to teach these lunatics how to lie to us better 46:40.070 --> 46:42.550 but I mean, you know, you you don't 46:42.550 --> 46:47.870 Don't you don't make it so obvious that you're trying to throw people on to him onto another 46:48.430 --> 46:52.870 Trail you just you just nudge. I mean the nudge unit in the uk is a prime example 46:52.870 --> 46:58.850 They actually call it that it's like we just want to we don't want to totally turn you into somebody else 46:58.850 --> 46:59.490 We just want 47:00.170 --> 47:03.150 Move you are thinking just a little bit off of where it currently is 47:03.590 --> 47:06.670 Right, you know and and think this is again to that same point 47:06.670 --> 47:10.410 Look at what the current administration is doing like I swear 47:10.410 --> 47:12.890 I've said this so many times more than I've seen in the past 47:12.890 --> 47:15.330 I've said this in the past, but I've never seen it this much 47:15.330 --> 47:19.210 These these guys lie about things that you don't even need to lie about 47:19.210 --> 47:22.650 You know like in ways like why did you even like it who knows? 47:22.730 --> 47:24.490 Maybe they're just so desperate or so, you know 47:24.490 --> 47:28.090 But the point is they lie in ways that are like like you just said not 47:28.550 --> 47:31.590 Mostly truth and a small like this blatant hardcore 47:31.590 --> 47:36.390 Like challenging what even the people right around them would want to say, you know and the question is why 47:37.050 --> 47:40.530 In competence, I think that's self-evident, but I do think it's more than that 47:40.530 --> 47:44.530 You know like there's such big like my like the points we make although there are people around them 47:44.530 --> 47:49.650 People that have been doing this their entire lives that know like that you shouldn't say that or not allowing do it 47:49.650 --> 47:54.710 But they still do it Trump's out there still, you know, in some cases. I do think he's the one putting these things out 47:54.710 --> 47:57.410 It's like there's in the past you see like speaking to handlers 47:57.410 --> 47:59.870 They know people that are like no, you know, this is the right time 47:59.870 --> 48:00.830 No, say it like this 48:00.830 --> 48:04.750 But it seems like that's not as much there at the very least they're the ones driving them to do the things that 48:04.750 --> 48:06.670 Like make Americans see this 48:06.670 --> 48:08.270 Not I don't know why that would be the agenda 48:08.270 --> 48:12.110 But again, I think it's more about kind of a you know, bringing this all down around its ankles 48:12.110 --> 48:16.470 Both because of what I think the agenda is about like the west and the us discussion 48:16.470 --> 48:20.930 But also because of the global conversation, you know about creating this massive shift 48:20.930 --> 48:23.890 Of which the united states the current reality is sort of the guiding 48:24.330 --> 48:29.530 You know guidepost on like the current direction, right? And that's always been shifting the bricks and everything 48:29.530 --> 48:32.630 But I think what we're seeing is that massive transition into the new 48:32.630 --> 48:37.730 You know, well the way I read it is that the trump that the people right now in control of that direction 48:37.730 --> 48:39.930 Don't want to lose that control to some other 48:39.930 --> 48:45.610 You know the trump wants to position himself as this like emperor king of like the new global order like globalism 48:45.610 --> 48:48.810 You know, and so I think that's what comes back to like why a lot of this is happening 48:48.810 --> 48:52.670 So let's talk about the administrative promos and and some of these other points 48:52.670 --> 48:55.330 And and you know bring up anything by the way that you want to get into 48:55.330 --> 48:56.790 There's just some of the things that I had lined up 48:56.790 --> 49:00.570 And I think what's interesting is about the mind part and actually to bring it together 49:00.570 --> 49:02.230 What I was just talking about with the propaganda 49:02.950 --> 49:08.170 This is so weird how I keep seeing this so trump and I my mind this is somebody guiding this through him 49:08.170 --> 49:11.990 I don't think he this is obvious the way it's happening trump comes up and goes, you know 49:11.990 --> 49:14.650 There's no reason to say this. There's no indication. It's happening 49:14.650 --> 49:18.010 But if they put minds in the straight of promos, then we are going to have an issue with that 49:18.010 --> 49:22.190 And we're going to have to do something about it. And so he makes a clear point to say it's not happening 49:22.190 --> 49:23.750 But if right 49:24.950 --> 49:26.450 Not even 24 hours later 49:26.830 --> 49:31.270 There's minds and reports of minds and which is certainly possible like this is a not a new conversation 49:31.270 --> 49:34.810 Right it's happened before this is that they're they're controlled area. They threaten things like this 49:34.810 --> 49:37.590 But why would he come out and say it's not happening? 49:37.630 --> 49:42.650 But if it does and then right after all of a sudden there's reports makes you wonder whether they're even actually are minds at this point 49:42.650 --> 49:46.310 You know, it's just like they did this and I'm wondering whether that's something that's somebody being fed trump 49:46.310 --> 49:49.530 Like even in his inner circle, you know, put out a tweet saying this can't happen 49:49.530 --> 49:51.850 And then they're the okay, it's nishi if you mind conversation 49:51.850 --> 49:57.390 I just how I read that but either way now they're using this argument to say that they're mining this and we're going to 49:57.390 --> 50:01.990 You know create this conflict in the zone when I don't even think it's effectively shut down 50:01.990 --> 50:06.190 I think I think you can easily prove that it's just very restricted based on their threats 50:06.190 --> 50:12.090 Like but now with the myths that the actual minds they can actually argue that they're legitimately shutting it down 50:12.090 --> 50:16.790 So I'm wondering whether that's a ploy because I don't think Iran is in the interest right now to actually like 50:17.310 --> 50:21.750 Legitimately shut it down. I think they're playing their game with the threats to slow down the interest 50:21.750 --> 50:27.490 You know, but I think if they know if they're like literally blockaded the pathway that that would become something that everybody would use 50:27.490 --> 50:31.670 To go after them, you know, just just my just my two cents you're reading the you know writing on the wall 50:31.670 --> 50:36.850 So what do you think say? Well, I would look at what happened when the babel mandra straight, right? 50:36.910 --> 50:37.150 Where 50:37.750 --> 50:42.190 There were some ships that were allowed to pass through through there. We got no problem with you 50:42.190 --> 50:46.310 You're good you going through but if you're an israeli flagship or somebody who's 50:46.310 --> 50:51.070 American flagged or you're trying to pretend like you're not then we'll light you up and so 50:51.710 --> 50:56.490 Whether it's mind or not doesn't even really matter at this point the you're you're a target 50:57.370 --> 51:02.210 And if and for people who are unfamiliar with that kink in where the Strait of Hormuz is 51:03.070 --> 51:05.330 Here I brought this up actually good. I'm glad you said that too 51:05.330 --> 51:07.770 So if you guys don't remember I and this is such an important point 51:07.770 --> 51:11.750 Here's what he's talking about. This is the babel mandra straight and this is largely why the yemen 51:11.750 --> 51:12.990 I think the yemen 51:13.690 --> 51:17.650 Invasion occupation is happening and then this is the Strait of Hormuz on the other side of the landmass keep going 51:17.650 --> 51:23.770 Yeah, so you you're in these maritime choke points where you you force the traffic through a very tight little 51:24.370 --> 51:30.630 Narrow pathway and as long as you're good as long as you have no political attention with anybody and you're you're then 51:30.630 --> 51:31.550 Those stay open 51:32.050 --> 51:37.230 And but you but I don't think that you need to physically mind them so much is just tell people 51:37.230 --> 51:42.890 Certain ships are allowed to go through our gang territory and certain ships aren't and if you're flying your flag and our 51:42.890 --> 51:45.730 In our through our turf our neighborhood 51:46.250 --> 51:50.930 We're gonna we're gonna light you up and if you have a problem with that then you shouldn't have come through and in that 51:51.470 --> 51:52.610 that I think they can 51:52.610 --> 51:55.650 Then then they can negotiate 51:56.490 --> 51:59.890 Country by country specific instead of closing it down to everybody 51:59.890 --> 52:06.270 Why not leave it open say you haven't been a problem with us? You can go through you allow you boch rain 52:06.270 --> 52:09.270 I'll put an american base there. You're not getting any of your stuff through 52:09.870 --> 52:10.390 Sorry 52:10.930 --> 52:14.710 In less in less in less maybe now we say 52:15.390 --> 52:20.670 All of you gulf arab states that have have american bases will make you a deal 52:21.450 --> 52:24.690 We'll allow you safe passage through here, but you got to close all those bases 52:24.690 --> 52:28.130 You got to get everybody out or just not engage in the ongoing war like that 52:29.250 --> 52:33.450 Don't bomb us anymore don't allow them to bomb us from your countries and we'll stop bombing you that of course 52:33.450 --> 52:36.150 Trump very embarrassingly called a surrender which 52:36.150 --> 52:40.230 No, but I mean everyone can see that's not what happened. So that that shows desperation to me 52:40.230 --> 52:41.630 I don't know how else you frame that you know 52:41.630 --> 52:46.330 But so this is what's important to me about this and I keep bringing this up is that you know exactly what you said 52:46.330 --> 52:50.190 I think that is what I think this is the the calculus like they're they're thinking 52:50.190 --> 52:58.870 We can't shut this down legitimately because everybody would have mad at us literally everybody including the the flirting with the oil price discussion and the world economy 52:58.870 --> 53:04.830 You know and so what effectively threats which has which has happened will bomb the ships that go through or at the very least 53:04.830 --> 53:09.910 That's what the us media frames as the way that they've said it and same thing saying that they're going to 53:09.910 --> 53:16.650 You know basically threats of shutting it down and immediately you've got this entirely like all the western press all the mainstream alternative 53:16.650 --> 53:20.310 Media the Australia removes has been shut and I said well hold on 53:20.310 --> 53:23.610 You know I suppose like but I it's live map. It's clearly not shut 53:23.610 --> 53:27.730 You know look at all the traffic which is way more traffic today than it was yesterday and on top of that 53:27.730 --> 53:31.110 This is what I thought was interesting too, but it makes more sense when you look at the 53:32.470 --> 53:36.770 Because on the other side of the the the water area. This is a us ship right here 53:36.770 --> 53:41.070 USS Michael Murphy, but it's way over here on this side. So technically behind this gray line 53:41.070 --> 53:47.490 That's the that's the Iranian, you know regional waters and it but it you know overlaps pretty clearly right there 53:47.490 --> 53:50.950 But so my point though is that either way if it's not shut down 53:50.950 --> 53:55.230 Then it's what you think or what you said I argue. I'll get this back to where it was hold on 53:56.050 --> 54:00.190 Because that means that clearly it's about trying to allow it to continue 54:00.190 --> 54:04.110 But while while only hurting the people who are effectively against them 54:04.110 --> 54:07.670 Which makes sense is why they would want to frame this as them shutting it down for everybody 54:07.670 --> 54:09.890 So it's always like this so which is back to the point 54:09.890 --> 54:15.110 Why I want I starting to feel that it's more likely that they haven't put minds out there 54:15.110 --> 54:19.550 But like you said either threatened it and didn't do it or ultimately that's just something they made up 54:19.550 --> 54:23.590 Which is why trump said it weirdly and then the next like less than 24 hours later 54:23.590 --> 54:27.070 There's reports from the us media claiming it's already happening just with my thought 54:27.070 --> 54:30.630 And it's just as likely that they put minds out there because of what they drove them to do 54:30.630 --> 54:37.190 But it's an interesting point right and I think this then carries over into the oil part of this conversation 54:37.670 --> 54:43.290 But do you have any thoughts on just the the you know discussion of the the waterways and you know what that might do 54:43.790 --> 54:44.670 They've got them 54:44.670 --> 54:49.950 They also have to sort of be mindful of their relationship with the other BRICS nations and what's going on there 54:49.950 --> 54:53.590 And and if you're if you're shutting off that whole thing, you're not just impacting 54:53.590 --> 54:59.610 You know, I mean I get it. It's a war and it's unusual times, but but you have to be 55:00.210 --> 55:01.550 mindful that there's 55:02.750 --> 55:05.670 You have partners that will suffer from this as well 55:05.670 --> 55:09.050 And so they may have a voice in in how this plays out 55:09.530 --> 55:13.970 Of course, they understand what you're up against probably even support you 55:14.750 --> 55:15.910 but need to 55:17.810 --> 55:21.550 Be careful with this and in the trump messaging is 55:22.210 --> 55:30.890 So disjointed that it makes it makes you wonder is he being erratic on purpose to to come across as as 55:31.570 --> 55:32.630 as uh 55:33.570 --> 55:35.290 Kind of buffoonish and 55:36.530 --> 55:37.870 Is it a tactic? 55:38.050 --> 55:41.530 So yeah, is it a tactic? I'm not I'm trying. I'm not I'm really trying to not go 55:42.110 --> 55:47.910 12 dimensional chess here with and I have a hard time giving him credit for things, but what if it's a no 55:48.630 --> 55:49.110 intentionally 55:50.030 --> 55:51.230 Trying to be 55:51.730 --> 55:57.270 Wishy washy or bad at this which would go against every component of his personality I admit 55:57.270 --> 56:04.170 But but what if he just made a calculation like I can't stop the war, but what if I just played it really poorly 56:05.030 --> 56:08.590 Well to one end though flesh it out. What would you what would you think that would be in it? 56:08.630 --> 56:10.750 How would that better his stance? 56:11.510 --> 56:14.970 I don't know. What if I was so bad at this that I got the israelis whacked 56:15.650 --> 56:17.210 And then I got them off my back 56:17.630 --> 56:18.570 You know what I mean 56:18.570 --> 56:21.610 This is like q always narrative right no matter how it's going 56:21.610 --> 56:24.930 It's all if you end up where it looks like he somehow hurt israel 56:24.930 --> 56:27.870 I don't it was all played out to make that happen 56:27.870 --> 56:32.530 You know, I mean that that's why that's kind of where I'm at too in a lot of ways back to the point about the threat 56:32.530 --> 56:36.810 What I mean rubio came out and said it basically said the israel threatened a nuke aran 56:36.810 --> 56:40.010 That's why he claimed it you know israel a rather trump had to react 56:40.010 --> 56:43.150 You know that ultimately you can see this position where you know 56:43.150 --> 56:44.190 I mean it makes sense 56:44.190 --> 56:48.350 And like I said back to the earlier point about whether it's a level of like removing accountability 56:48.350 --> 56:49.470 Yeah to a degree 56:49.470 --> 56:52.070 But as you said it's still he's there for a reason 56:52.070 --> 56:56.250 But I think this is kind of where we might be where trump is realizing 56:56.250 --> 57:01.030 More than maybe he was aware that this is happening that egg said than rubio or whatever else 57:01.030 --> 57:04.350 That's just a thought that I had but then that would change the way he would engage with this 57:04.350 --> 57:05.290 And so to your point 57:05.290 --> 57:08.250 Is it likely you're possible that he is sort of going? 57:08.290 --> 57:13.450 Okay, like maybe I can drag this into a certain point to where that could better my stance and I can make it 57:13.450 --> 57:16.210 Look like I stop this or whatever or you know turn 57:16.210 --> 57:22.590 I I just don't see a world in which that ever happens where this administration turns on israel because you're complicit in far too many things 57:22.590 --> 57:25.330 I even argue covet 19 in that very much connects 57:25.330 --> 57:29.930 But just the the genocide how in the world you can get away from that whether you blame him or not 57:29.930 --> 57:34.510 You're already trapped in that and I think they know that I think that's now part of the angle for the epstein 57:35.010 --> 57:38.130 You know manipulation now they have them with their involvement in the genocide 57:38.130 --> 57:44.110 You know and now now they're almost forcing them to openly commit the same tactics to lay cover for what they did the entire time 57:44.110 --> 57:47.890 You know, but I think it's a valid point to consider whether trump may be changing his direction 57:47.890 --> 57:50.990 And he's capable of that he showed himself to crafty like that 57:50.990 --> 57:55.090 But it also shows he's lying to you and that's somehow okay in the moment because of the outcome 57:55.090 --> 57:57.570 It's always a guess anyway, you know, but very valid point 57:58.110 --> 57:59.670 Yeah, I really I really always kind of 57:59.670 --> 58:03.830 In hesitant to go down that path of giving trump any sort of like 58:04.250 --> 58:09.510 Credit for doing this but I do wonder if maybe he was on board or maybe he was slightly on board with everything 58:10.070 --> 58:13.550 But as we get further and further down with the Gaza situation 58:13.550 --> 58:16.090 We get into this and you know, he's outwardly showing support 58:16.090 --> 58:20.690 But maybe you know, maybe there's a conversation that he heads up and rubio have of like 58:21.370 --> 58:24.890 They're gonna kill us all they're gonna get us all like, you know what I mean like 58:24.890 --> 58:27.770 Rubio's statement was about kind of like almost giving him that 58:28.250 --> 58:29.450 like yeah, like 58:30.210 --> 58:33.230 It felt a little bit like oops didn't mean to mention that 58:34.130 --> 58:38.470 Right, you know that we we did that on but so I wonder 58:39.690 --> 58:45.650 Helm I wonder what percentage the trumps hexeth and rubios of the world are willing 58:45.650 --> 58:49.210 willing participants or hostages at this point 58:49.210 --> 58:53.710 I don't know or like you said earlier sort of a middle ground of both where they wouldn't be in that position 58:53.710 --> 58:57.270 If they didn't already believe in these things, but even they have their own ambition 58:57.270 --> 59:00.390 Even they you know, like this is the point about trump and we both agree 59:00.390 --> 59:06.090 I don't I don't see I see it would have to be some very very very tough situation for trump to decide 59:06.630 --> 59:10.890 To make himself look stupid to make himself look a weak played one in the conversation 59:10.890 --> 59:14.150 I don't I think I would even borderline argue. He's not capable of that 59:14.150 --> 59:19.730 I know it goes against this entire personality to do something like that if it's like, uh, we're all gonna die 59:19.730 --> 59:22.710 You know, maybe you could see a world that might happen 59:22.710 --> 59:27.510 And so I think we're both talking about this as you should consider these points because either way 59:27.510 --> 59:31.010 And this is where I'm hoping most americans are getting to what does it show you 59:31.470 --> 59:35.350 Ever this is why I was so interested in that point because no matter how you read it 59:36.090 --> 59:41.210 Trump is essentially now telling you israel's influencing this government right like to a degree. You can't ignore if ultimately the 59:41.750 --> 59:45.530 excuse to get trump out of responsibility is well israel sort of pressured him 59:45.530 --> 59:46.730 It's like, well, thank you fine 59:46.730 --> 59:52.450 I'll even let him get out of the accountability in that moment to be able to make as long as everybody can acknowledge that israel is 59:52.450 --> 59:56.530 Influencing if not manipulating if not controlling us policy 59:56.530 --> 01:00:02.370 You know, it's weird how close and obvious we get to that point and we like the the mainstream major alternative 01:00:02.370 --> 01:00:07.890 Just cannot allow that to be acknowledged. And I think we know why that is and it doesn't have to do solely with jewish people 01:00:07.890 --> 01:00:08.510 If that's what you're thinking 01:00:08.510 --> 01:00:09.370 Yeah 01:00:10.470 --> 01:00:12.510 Wild how it isn't an interesting time 01:00:12.510 --> 01:00:15.970 How I mean just october 7th forward. I mean the whole world has changed 01:00:16.470 --> 01:00:20.830 Well, I made that point during my presentation as well when I put up a picture of the 01:00:21.450 --> 01:00:25.070 It was a compilation headshots of all the major media 01:00:25.770 --> 01:00:32.090 The high-ranking members of each of the five major media corporations with the blue jewish stars over all of their faces 01:00:32.090 --> 01:00:34.130 It's like, you know, and I said in the presentation 01:00:34.830 --> 01:00:38.850 If they were catholics, I'd say they were catholics if they were aztecs 01:00:38.850 --> 01:00:40.010 I'd say they were aztecs 01:00:40.010 --> 01:00:44.430 There's no aztecs on that list there, right? And so so at the bare minimum 01:00:44.970 --> 01:00:47.310 We have the potential for a problem 01:00:47.310 --> 01:00:54.070 Yeah, I mean and of course the even if your point taken well is that it's any one over representation of anything 01:00:54.070 --> 01:00:55.310 It's worth considering that point 01:00:55.310 --> 01:00:58.670 But I would add that remember the star of david is not a jewish symbol 01:00:58.670 --> 01:01:03.630 That's a zionic symbol the the the menorah is the actual jewish symbol and and orthodox jews will tell you that 01:01:03.630 --> 01:01:06.990 So it's just important to consider both of those angles, but you're right regardless 01:01:06.990 --> 01:01:11.150 If it was all a bunch of you know, chinese nationals that would worry me if it was all a bunch of 01:01:11.150 --> 01:01:14.650 You know, I mean anything religions nationality like the point is that we can see 01:01:15.610 --> 01:01:19.110 Influence in every I mean and that's not even necessarily always nefarious, right? 01:01:19.210 --> 01:01:23.230 Like you can talk about, you know, you have muslims in a certain area that you want to influence that 01:01:23.230 --> 01:01:26.530 You know that make their area more like they like christians do the same thing 01:01:26.530 --> 01:01:29.510 So to jews it's it or specifically nationalities 01:01:29.510 --> 01:01:30.330 We know this happens 01:01:30.330 --> 01:01:34.310 But we should be aware and able to call out any of them if it's something that is 01:01:34.850 --> 01:01:38.610 Illegal something that is immoral something that we disagree with of course, you know 01:01:38.610 --> 01:01:43.950 It's just weird how obviously one angle of that has been so weaponized to the point to where this is so interesting 01:01:43.950 --> 01:01:46.210 One it started where you're not allowed to talk about it 01:01:46.210 --> 01:01:48.570 But now and I think this is the scientist agenda 01:01:48.570 --> 01:01:53.350 It's causing people who are otherwise good intention to actually make the connection to feel like 01:01:53.350 --> 01:01:55.510 Oh, it turns out it is the jews doing all of this 01:01:55.510 --> 01:01:58.610 You know what I mean? Like they've created that drive. That's why they do that 01:01:58.610 --> 01:02:03.550 That's why I think that's so important to jump in there and always make that point because there's so many people 01:02:03.550 --> 01:02:07.710 There's people that are honestly who you know have good intentions who have fallen for that 01:02:07.710 --> 01:02:09.950 I see it every day and I of course like if you're wrong too, you know 01:02:09.950 --> 01:02:13.550 Yeah, no, but if you allow them to convince you that all jews are bad 01:02:13.550 --> 01:02:18.090 You're falling into their trap, right? You're you're you're walking into the trap where you say see 01:02:18.090 --> 01:02:21.870 We're just persecuted for no good reason. It's like no you have to be 01:02:21.870 --> 01:02:27.110 You have to be consistent in your criticism and you have to give credit when it's due and you have to be 01:02:27.630 --> 01:02:33.350 Critical when it's due as well and it's it's just it's just I think people are starting to recognize the volt hair quote 01:02:33.350 --> 01:02:39.090 When they they look around and they recognize that there's there's one group that you aren't actually allowed to criticize 01:02:39.090 --> 01:02:42.570 Isn't that interesting and maybe maybe they do have some undue influence 01:02:42.570 --> 01:02:47.110 And if they do then we should have the discussion about it, but since we're not allowed to 01:02:47.110 --> 01:02:50.990 They tell us we're not allowed to we're having the discussion regardless, but 01:02:51.930 --> 01:02:54.770 That is kind of a bigger problem way wait a second 01:02:54.770 --> 01:02:56.410 So it's a problem that you're doing this 01:02:56.410 --> 01:03:00.950 But now it's another problem that you were not allowed to talk about that you're doing this because that's now 01:03:00.950 --> 01:03:05.850 Compound so can we are we not talking about if the muslims do it? Oh, no, that would be front page headline 01:03:05.850 --> 01:03:12.530 So I see so so now it's inconsistent in how you know, so we can't talk about you guys doing it 01:03:12.530 --> 01:03:17.790 But if you see coordination from this other ethnic group, well, yeah, you got to mention them 01:03:17.790 --> 01:03:21.270 But just don't mention those who cannot be named so it's 01:03:21.270 --> 01:03:26.290 The tide is turning and of course you and I are probably thinking the same thing 01:03:26.910 --> 01:03:28.750 Uh, are we walking into a trap? 01:03:29.130 --> 01:03:34.370 Because there's never been a time when you're allowed to talk about this stuff so freely and have these right 01:03:34.370 --> 01:03:38.950 You know these criticisms of them and and and I wonder all right, so 01:03:39.810 --> 01:03:45.810 Are they just using this as an opportunity to get us all out in the open on camera? 01:03:45.810 --> 01:03:48.730 That's always a valid point if you made but I hear this point 01:03:48.730 --> 01:03:54.470 Every time things like this happen remember when the cannabis was a huge like, you know, it's still weirdly kind of stalled 01:03:54.470 --> 01:03:56.190 It's not even everything's so crazy 01:03:56.190 --> 01:04:00.850 But you know, there was a momentum and all the most states are now legalizing and everyone everybody 01:04:00.850 --> 01:04:05.790 Because this is where my kind of tealab really kind of rooted in starting was the cannabis law reform discussion 01:04:05.790 --> 01:04:07.830 Was like, oh you guys are falling for it 01:04:07.830 --> 01:04:11.150 They're just not they're just making a list of everybody who who what smokes cannabis 01:04:11.630 --> 01:04:16.250 Going to round y'all up people were making that argument, you know, and it's I said then I guess possible 01:04:16.250 --> 01:04:18.990 But you know one there's plenty of other ways, you know same point 01:04:18.990 --> 01:04:23.470 So I argue it's worth considering that but to what end, you know what I mean like to what to what to 01:04:23.470 --> 01:04:27.490 To censor us are doing that, you know to to round us up. Well that can happen regardless, you know 01:04:27.490 --> 01:04:29.430 But consider it right consider whether that's there 01:04:29.430 --> 01:04:34.850 But I would argue regardless we always and I said this during the self censorship rise in the independent media 01:04:34.850 --> 01:04:37.490 I I I took censorship head-on 01:04:37.490 --> 01:04:40.510 I would I allowed them to censor me because I was unwilling to 01:04:40.510 --> 01:04:45.310 Self-censor I'm going to say the words what I mean, you know, I'm not going to say, you know, whatever the boob boob or whatever 01:04:45.310 --> 01:04:48.750 You know, which I understand though like I get why that some people chose that round 01:04:48.750 --> 01:04:50.530 And maybe they were the right maybe that was the right path 01:04:50.530 --> 01:04:53.670 But I just I think it's important to err on that side on everywhere 01:04:53.670 --> 01:04:56.630 That's my point about firing a theater. It's like whatever it is 01:04:56.630 --> 01:04:59.150 We need to we need to draw that line as hard 01:04:59.150 --> 01:05:05.050 You know in in the principle as opposed to letting the the even if it's logical drive us away from what we know 01:05:05.050 --> 01:05:07.750 The principle is you know, and that's just everything everywhere 01:05:07.750 --> 01:05:09.810 I see right now is doing that to everybody in this country 01:05:10.290 --> 01:05:16.050 Drifting you away from believing in the constitution drifting away from believing in law from believing in what's moral, you know 01:05:16.050 --> 01:05:19.950 Hit them while they're down, right? I don't want a fair fight. These are things we're hearing from our administration 01:05:19.950 --> 01:05:21.750 You know, it's it's pretty sad 01:05:22.510 --> 01:05:23.570 yeah, it's uh 01:05:25.530 --> 01:05:29.570 Don't allow them to demoralize you as well, you know, there's there's a lot of this going on 01:05:29.570 --> 01:05:32.730 I mean if they can get you to throw your hands up in the air and say I just give up 01:05:32.730 --> 01:05:35.850 I submit I just tell me what to do you want me to take the shot 01:05:36.410 --> 01:05:40.430 You want me to stand on the dot or go this direction down the just make it all stop 01:05:41.050 --> 01:05:43.870 You know, that's they they're almost kind of counting on you 01:05:44.470 --> 01:05:46.130 getting to a point where you 01:05:47.030 --> 01:05:53.530 Where you give up and and we can't do that, of course that's uh, it's our duty and obligation to to 01:05:54.710 --> 01:05:59.690 To remain strong in the in the face of this insanity and to um 01:06:00.290 --> 01:06:02.610 Uh and to never compromise ourselves 01:06:02.610 --> 01:06:06.970 I think the most devious form of censorship self-censorship 01:06:06.970 --> 01:06:11.250 I agree because you can never measure that you can't quantify it and does something to you 01:06:11.250 --> 01:06:15.310 When you know that you wanted to say something, but you didn't you held back 01:06:16.350 --> 01:06:20.430 It then once you do it once you can do it again easier and again and again 01:06:20.430 --> 01:06:24.490 And then the next thing you know, you're just not being honest with anybody about who you are or what you think and 01:06:24.490 --> 01:06:26.590 And then what is the point? 01:06:27.070 --> 01:06:28.350 You know, what's the point? 01:06:28.570 --> 01:06:34.210 You're gonna just sit in your pod and suck your thumb and wait for the government to tell you when you can come out or be happy 01:06:34.210 --> 01:06:34.830 I mean I just 01:06:35.710 --> 01:06:40.730 These are very flawed human beings that are trying to tell us how to behave and how to act in this world 01:06:40.730 --> 01:06:46.450 And I just I just have no respect for them. So I don't know why the rest of us just don't just stand up 01:06:47.450 --> 01:06:49.470 And and tell him, you know, we're not going to take 01:06:50.870 --> 01:06:55.590 Moral authority from the likes of the people in washington dc, which is not going to do it 01:06:55.990 --> 01:06:59.270 Exactly. I mean and that's that's even coming out in mainstream for crying out loud 01:06:59.270 --> 01:07:00.730 Which never means honest to me 01:07:00.730 --> 01:07:03.350 It just means that it's that obvious that they have to somewhat address it 01:07:03.350 --> 01:07:07.430 But you know the standing of the u.s. Govern in the world, you know, what right do you have? 01:07:07.610 --> 01:07:12.770 I saw that in the pentagon briefing like where do you have to to speak to anybody about morality when 01:07:12.770 --> 01:07:17.750 The girl school bombing or you know, whatever else it is they can deny all day the world is aware 01:07:17.750 --> 01:07:20.530 You know, it's it doesn't go away anymore, and I'm glad to see that 01:07:20.530 --> 01:07:23.950 I do think this is emblematic of you know, we're seeing change 01:07:23.950 --> 01:07:28.470 Whether grudgingly or or a feigned or not it is happening 01:07:28.470 --> 01:07:32.130 And I just think that's worth pointing out is that we have been censored and you know 01:07:32.610 --> 01:07:37.470 Sidelined and suppressed and you know with now with ai and algorithms and financial attacks and lawsuits 01:07:37.470 --> 01:07:41.930 And I mean all of us and yet we're still making this happen as all of independent media 01:07:41.930 --> 01:07:45.090 It's like I say it all the time that's a win guys take it for what it is 01:07:45.090 --> 01:07:48.430 And we fight's never going to be over probably never but that's definitely a win 01:07:48.430 --> 01:07:51.410 Yeah, I'll I'll end with a couple of points 01:07:51.410 --> 01:07:54.130 I saw here and we can you know kind of discuss on where we think this will go 01:07:54.130 --> 01:07:57.930 But this was one of these all I can show them real quick just breaking breaking news stuff 01:07:57.930 --> 01:08:03.970 This one was reported earlier that Iran like we were discussing Iran's military warned that any ships belonging to the u.s 01:08:03.970 --> 01:08:07.790 Israel or their allies passing through the strait could be targeted. So you're right 01:08:07.790 --> 01:08:11.250 I mean, it's explicit now just coming out of the gate and saying it there was reports now that a 01:08:11.670 --> 01:08:14.990 Projectile hit a cargo ship. So here we go again, right? So is this 01:08:15.590 --> 01:08:19.410 Bolton's limpet mines are we are they faking this again or did Iran find a reason to attack them? 01:08:19.410 --> 01:08:25.910 I mean both are very possible, you know, but I think it's interesting after they after they stress the the the mine laying conversation 01:08:25.910 --> 01:08:27.610 And they're now in in the area, right? 01:08:27.990 --> 01:08:34.550 And I think lastly just I think it's interesting reports of Iran Iran's military says it will hit economic targets banks 01:08:34.550 --> 01:08:36.870 Which by the way are crime that's a that's a war crime 01:08:36.870 --> 01:08:38.430 It no matter who's doing it 01:08:38.430 --> 01:08:40.210 Those are non military targets, right? 01:08:40.490 --> 01:08:44.630 And then this one says Iran announces the facilities associated with major u.s technology companies 01:08:44.630 --> 01:08:50.870 That's very relevant like Amazon Microsoft IBM Oracle Palantir may be targeted. That's their AI agenda 01:08:50.870 --> 01:08:55.430 And it says Iran says they are switching from reciprocal hits to continuous strikes because you know 01:08:55.430 --> 01:08:56.010 They're responding 01:08:56.010 --> 01:08:59.990 Which is what they've been doing since they were attacked in the first place and now they're saying, you know what? 01:09:00.010 --> 01:09:03.930 They're not stopping. They have no legal justification. So we're switching into full, you know 01:09:03.930 --> 01:09:09.930 I don't think either one has declared war essentially, but this is now more than ever a direct back and forth 01:09:09.930 --> 01:09:15.330 You know war but what I think to end with is interesting is, you know, all of this military targets, you know 01:09:15.330 --> 01:09:21.150 Banks this none of this was happening before they initiated this and they started targeting civilian locations 01:09:21.150 --> 01:09:25.030 They'll lie all day about what Iran willing to do. The evidence is not there look around the world 01:09:25.030 --> 01:09:28.590 However, we have the evidence of what israel's doing what the u.s is always done 01:09:29.130 --> 01:09:31.430 Hey Seth can yet again say we'll never target civilians 01:09:31.430 --> 01:09:34.910 And you could bring up the hundred thousand articles of them getting caught targeting civilians 01:09:34.910 --> 01:09:38.250 And then in some cases admitting it whether mistakes or targeted whatever 01:09:38.250 --> 01:09:41.850 And so what I want to point out to end is that they've driven this year, right? 01:09:42.110 --> 01:09:46.090 So whether banks get targeted or or, you know, Palantir, whatever it is the u.s 01:09:46.090 --> 01:09:49.950 Government in Israel have literally driven this into a reality into reality with their 01:09:51.270 --> 01:09:53.950 Unquestionably illegal actions. We didn't touch on it today, but 01:09:54.410 --> 01:09:57.310 War powers act hasn't been met. It wasn't eminent trump stated himself 01:09:57.310 --> 01:10:00.650 There's no congressional authority or approval and there's no authorization 01:10:00.650 --> 01:10:03.950 So it's like no matter how you spend this this is a crime that's taking place 01:10:03.950 --> 01:10:06.910 But no different than every other government administration in our past 01:10:06.910 --> 01:10:10.330 So I just wanted your thoughts on where you think that's going to go, you know, do you think this is going to 01:10:11.170 --> 01:10:13.310 You know, like like we said, maybe trump's seeing it 01:10:13.310 --> 01:10:15.490 Does he try to pull back it's just going to stall out in some way 01:10:15.490 --> 01:10:18.290 Or do you think this just literally goes where it seems it's going to go? 01:10:18.770 --> 01:10:21.570 It's pretty it's pretty alarming, you know from whatever way you look at this 01:10:22.110 --> 01:10:26.950 It's so funny that you'll find most of the americans cheering on the destruction of 01:10:27.570 --> 01:10:31.470 AI data centers from microsoft and amazon and oracle and all that 01:10:31.470 --> 01:10:33.570 It's like, oh, would you like us to tell you where they are? 01:10:33.570 --> 01:10:36.890 We'll get you a map. We'll draw a map for you. So make sure, you know, you don't miss 01:10:37.410 --> 01:10:41.870 This this is where we've become, you know, and trump has nobody to blame 01:10:43.150 --> 01:10:50.030 He's a second day in he had larry ellison and sam altman standing there next to him pledging half a trillion dollars to give to those guys 01:10:50.030 --> 01:10:54.570 I don't blame the iranians for thinking we need to target these tech centers as well 01:10:55.090 --> 01:10:58.810 Because you would be right to and the banking the banks as well 01:10:58.810 --> 01:11:03.870 I mean, look if if if the israelis are going to launch missiles or the americans 01:11:03.870 --> 01:11:08.350 I don't know who did it and blow up 100 plus school children 01:11:09.110 --> 01:11:13.110 Then I have no problem with tehran taking out a couple banks 01:11:13.850 --> 01:11:16.050 Well, I mean I I get your point 01:11:16.050 --> 01:11:20.890 But I think what I what I what I will continue to argue and I'll include the school are showing that as well 01:11:21.450 --> 01:11:26.450 You know is that I I understand completely the justification in their mind for doing it, right? 01:11:26.450 --> 01:11:31.350 And I argue I argue mark my words that I don't believe that they will bomb a school or a hospital 01:11:31.350 --> 01:11:33.130 Why watch right now? It'll happen 01:11:33.130 --> 01:11:36.350 But banks and technology those are still war crimes 01:11:36.350 --> 01:11:40.010 Regardless and they would say the same when us is targeting theirs 01:11:40.010 --> 01:11:44.050 So I hope that line doesn't get crossed because they could take a stance that would show that they're not 01:11:44.050 --> 01:11:47.770 Falling that level, but if they do, you know, I do you think the u.s 01:11:47.770 --> 01:11:49.050 I mean, look, I don't even ask the question 01:11:49.050 --> 01:11:50.190 They're already doing it the u.s. 01:11:50.230 --> 01:11:52.890 Israel do it every single time so it's justified in their mind 01:11:52.890 --> 01:11:58.130 But I I hope that line doesn't get crossed because that that like that's what we talk about what we're doing every day in this field 01:11:58.130 --> 01:12:01.150 Right like or whatever we discussed you fall to that level 01:12:01.550 --> 01:12:04.330 You're the same thing regardless of how you got driven there 01:12:04.330 --> 01:12:07.390 You are the same thing and I think that's an important lesson for all of this, you know 01:12:07.390 --> 01:12:11.570 Don't lie because they do don't fall to that level integrity principles is important 01:12:11.570 --> 01:12:14.290 But you know, I think that where it's where it may go 01:12:14.290 --> 01:12:16.910 I mean that may be where they feel like they have to go and again 01:12:16.910 --> 01:12:21.630 That will be the responsibility of the people who started this illegally. That's my question is yes 01:12:21.630 --> 01:12:23.110 You're right that 01:12:23.110 --> 01:12:26.070 In order to do the things 01:12:26.650 --> 01:12:31.690 That the Israelis and the Americans do you would be lowering yourself to their level 01:12:32.430 --> 01:12:32.950 but 01:12:33.770 --> 01:12:40.370 Maybe Iran has made a calculation that this is the only way those people will respond. Maybe is that we have to like 01:12:42.430 --> 01:12:46.650 We can't negotiate with them you you want to you you want to get their attention 01:12:46.650 --> 01:12:49.430 Do the things to them that they do to you maybe not 01:12:49.430 --> 01:12:52.490 Schools because I agree with you they're that's not their style 01:12:53.410 --> 01:12:59.710 And I don't think that America that the American or Israelis would care if you bomb their schools as much as if you bomb their 01:12:59.710 --> 01:13:03.710 AI centers probably yeah, and so exactly that's actually an excellent point 01:13:03.710 --> 01:13:08.030 Right, so that's the that's the chosen line to cross because of how much that's clearly important to them 01:13:08.030 --> 01:13:10.670 Or even just the threat may actually change action, right? 01:13:10.990 --> 01:13:16.430 But you know, it's just it's such a horrible reality because it's something that is being driven into reality 01:13:16.430 --> 01:13:19.570 And they may like you said believe that this is the only path 01:13:19.570 --> 01:13:23.990 I would still call it a war crime no matter what but I genuinely hope we don't get to that 01:13:23.990 --> 01:13:26.510 That that that line being crossed 01:13:26.510 --> 01:13:32.510 But you know, I I believe that right now that's being all of this is being driven because of this ideological push 01:13:32.510 --> 01:13:37.170 And I think Iran very much sees that and so you understand the you know 01:13:37.170 --> 01:13:41.050 Even like the samson option element, you know what I mean like these are things that they're this is 01:13:41.050 --> 01:13:42.750 You know, how do you respond to that? 01:13:42.750 --> 01:13:46.310 What do you do knowing that that line is crossable for them? 01:13:46.750 --> 01:13:50.610 And that's what worries me is this may become like the like you said that well, you know 01:13:50.610 --> 01:13:53.750 The logic then becomes that we have to take irrational action 01:13:53.750 --> 01:13:56.870 Otherwise we will end up being removed and it's like, you know, and again 01:13:56.870 --> 01:14:03.910 This needs to be repeated like that only exists because of what's been driven by these people claiming they're fighting for freedom and liberty 01:14:04.410 --> 01:14:09.090 You know, who knows maybe Iran was the one that or maybe they have this mindset of the radical 01:14:09.090 --> 01:14:12.270 But there's no evidence of that the world does not show that their actions do not show that 01:14:12.270 --> 01:14:17.570 So the only what we're thing we're left with is looking at what the people claiming good or have been doing the entire time 01:14:17.570 --> 01:14:19.210 And it proves who they actually are, you know 01:14:19.210 --> 01:14:23.550 So as always people need to stand up call this out, you know take the effort to 01:14:24.550 --> 01:14:27.810 Show each other people right do what actions you think makes difference. You want to protest 01:14:27.810 --> 01:14:32.030 You want to call your your congressman do it all right, but do something right? 01:14:32.110 --> 01:14:33.490 What do you think people should do charlie? 01:14:33.590 --> 01:14:36.210 What do you think is the you know conscientious objector conversation? 01:14:36.350 --> 01:14:40.330 There's a lot of stuff that's been going on, you know, mike prisner people saying they don't want to go 01:14:40.330 --> 01:14:41.930 You know, what what do you think people should be doing? 01:14:42.330 --> 01:14:47.990 Well, I saw in israel that uh, a lot of people at ben gurion airport were opting for the samsonite option 01:14:48.470 --> 01:14:53.070 Hmm. Well, and what's this the samsonite option, which is getting on an airplane getting the hell out of there 01:14:53.070 --> 01:14:53.990 That's what they were doing 01:14:54.790 --> 01:14:58.850 They were they were they were they were leaving. I think for americans 01:14:58.850 --> 01:15:02.450 I mean the this would be such a deeply unpopular war 01:15:03.330 --> 01:15:06.370 The idea of a draft. I know I was 01:15:06.910 --> 01:15:08.530 freshman in college in 01:15:09.090 --> 01:15:11.070 January 91 when they did the 01:15:11.610 --> 01:15:16.690 Or the first gulf war and that was a question that everyone was asking sure we're gonna get drafted into this 01:15:16.690 --> 01:15:20.990 Is there gonna be a war and and and so that was a real conversation that was being had 01:15:21.550 --> 01:15:23.610 By people my age when I was in college 01:15:24.310 --> 01:15:28.890 It didn't wind up happening of course if something like that were to be rolled out now 01:15:29.830 --> 01:15:34.470 In an era of social media in an era in a post pat tilman world 01:15:35.450 --> 01:15:38.970 Good luck. Good luck trying to do that. We would be 01:15:40.610 --> 01:15:43.530 We would be I would I would be 01:15:44.170 --> 01:15:44.510 working 01:15:45.410 --> 01:15:50.890 20 hours a day trying to do everything I could to throw a monkey wrench in that plan 01:15:50.890 --> 01:15:51.870 Mm-hmm 01:15:51.870 --> 01:16:00.290 You know to the idea of of suckering in a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds who don't know any better to go die for israel in 01:16:00.790 --> 01:16:01.550 in iran 01:16:02.890 --> 01:16:06.250 deeply unpopular, I I think that might be the end of 01:16:06.870 --> 01:16:13.670 The trump administration if you tried to roll that maybe I mean maybe like it would be so unpopular that the right and left join 01:16:13.670 --> 01:16:16.850 Together in opposition of that you can imagine that 01:16:16.850 --> 01:16:21.850 And a mafia point right where that's self-regulation where they recognize that trump or whatever they're doing is 01:16:21.850 --> 01:16:24.970 Is exposing the game for everybody and that's how that tends to work 01:16:24.970 --> 01:16:28.370 Right, so they go we got to get him out of here and we can go back to playing the same game 01:16:28.370 --> 01:16:29.790 Yeah, yeah 01:16:30.290 --> 01:16:34.950 Yeah, it's a it's a it's an important time to be paying attention and and to not get 01:16:36.070 --> 01:16:41.510 Suckered into these emotional responses to things especially with the mainstream media. They want you to feel a certain way 01:16:41.510 --> 01:16:44.390 They want you to hate certain people. They want you to think that 01:16:45.010 --> 01:16:45.950 But you know 01:16:46.470 --> 01:16:51.010 They want you to be inconsistent in your beliefs and bombing when we do it is fine 01:16:51.010 --> 01:16:53.950 It's spreading freedom and democracy when they do it it's terrorism 01:16:54.410 --> 01:16:56.830 And if they can get you to into that 01:16:57.490 --> 01:17:04.270 Frame of mind where you're us versus them then then they've got you, you know, and I think it's just so important for us to 01:17:05.010 --> 01:17:09.290 Pull back to try and take a look at the big picture get good information 01:17:09.290 --> 01:17:12.350 You know and and and not be so 01:17:12.350 --> 01:17:18.630 Reactive I know that there's a tendency especially in america, you know, let's get on there before they get us here 01:17:18.630 --> 01:17:21.210 And I worry about a false flag, of course 01:17:21.210 --> 01:17:24.790 So we worry about this sleeper cells thing that they're they're pitching 01:17:25.440 --> 01:17:30.570 You know, um, so so what would that look like? Well, it would you know 01:17:31.190 --> 01:17:37.650 What if they tried that in it in it backfired and everybody immediately went israel did it and and on social media 01:17:37.650 --> 01:17:40.870 It was just such a dud that they couldn't roll that out anymore. I mean, maybe 01:17:42.170 --> 01:17:46.630 Yeah, and that is that those sorts of things have happened recently too. Yeah, so 01:17:48.050 --> 01:17:51.590 We're getting to the point where they are the boys who cried wolf 01:17:52.210 --> 01:17:55.190 And people just aren't really paying attention anymore and that's good 01:17:55.190 --> 01:17:57.930 That's a that's a that's a that's a better place for us to be 01:17:58.450 --> 01:18:00.750 Now than 2005 01:18:01.330 --> 01:18:04.330 When the iraq war sales pitch was happening and you 01:18:04.330 --> 01:18:07.390 All you had to do is be the dixie chicks and say, you know, shoot 01:18:07.390 --> 01:18:09.470 We should give this a second thought and it's like out 01:18:10.030 --> 01:18:13.610 vanished from the country have to change your name do all you know, so 01:18:14.830 --> 01:18:16.870 You know, this this is sort of where we are 01:18:16.870 --> 01:18:22.410 I just hope people will will take a moment and not be reactive and and and understand that there's 01:18:22.410 --> 01:18:25.010 on both sides, you know both sides propaganda 01:18:26.270 --> 01:18:32.270 And and to be mindful of that and not be reactive because they're gonna get you emotional and because you'll 01:18:33.130 --> 01:18:35.170 You know because then they can get you to act a certain way 01:18:35.170 --> 01:18:40.890 Yeah, right because circumvent's logic. They know that, you know, but to your point about they they're not paying attention 01:18:40.890 --> 01:18:43.210 And I know what you meant but I would frame it differently 01:18:43.710 --> 01:18:45.910 It's they're paying more attention than ever 01:18:45.910 --> 01:18:49.930 They're just not paying attention to the people that are proven liars over the years, right? 01:18:50.150 --> 01:18:53.070 You know, and I even argue that we should be watching and considering everything we can 01:18:53.070 --> 01:18:57.310 But question at all right vetted all question if you can't verify it you put it to the side 01:18:57.310 --> 01:18:58.410 But I think that's what's happening 01:18:58.410 --> 01:19:04.410 I think more people than ever are asking questions that they've never thought were even like they'd even realize existed 01:19:04.410 --> 01:19:07.250 You know, like this is truly starting to evolve in a way 01:19:07.250 --> 01:19:11.930 And I think we've been here to a smaller degree more than once and it's it's our opportunity 01:19:11.930 --> 01:19:16.150 It's our obligation to do something to try to take advantage of this change 01:19:16.150 --> 01:19:20.450 Especially since it's so clear that none of us like what's going on none of us like this 01:19:20.450 --> 01:19:25.730 It's like if we're literally every time talking about the lesser of evils. How do we not realize where we are? 01:19:25.730 --> 01:19:28.930 You know, it's like let's we can genuinely change this and I think that's finally 01:19:29.550 --> 01:19:32.410 Becoming clear to people that it's not just pick the other side 01:19:32.410 --> 01:19:37.230 But you know, how do we re have how do we evolve or literally rebuild or build something new? 01:19:37.330 --> 01:19:42.690 You know, it's important that we start asking these questions. We're gonna have a great conversation a month from now. I can tell you 01:19:43.290 --> 01:19:45.090 Yeah, yeah, yeah are hopefully sooner 01:19:45.090 --> 01:19:49.130 I mean we should you know, like just if there's something crazy going on we'll jump on and talk about it, man 01:19:49.130 --> 01:19:50.930 But I always appreciate our conversations, brother 01:19:50.930 --> 01:19:53.790 It's just important to be able to flush these thoughts out, you know 01:19:53.790 --> 01:19:58.530 Just just have a dialogue and think it through because a lot of this stuff is, you know, as always, you know 01:19:58.530 --> 01:20:00.370 You adding new things to 01:20:01.150 --> 01:20:04.590 My thoughts and vice versa and hopefully we do that for everybody out there, you know 01:20:04.590 --> 01:20:09.870 Because some of this stuff really is ridiculous and you know until you put a fine point on it until you openly say it out loud 01:20:09.870 --> 01:20:12.930 Some people don't really see it or put it together myself included, you know 01:20:12.930 --> 01:20:16.990 I have a conversation with you where I go, you know what and then I go do a show and it's talking about something 01:20:16.990 --> 01:20:18.010 You and I discussed, you know 01:20:18.610 --> 01:20:23.490 Yeah, yeah, well, we're all we're all helping each other. Nobody has it all figured out and that's the beauty of it 01:20:23.490 --> 01:20:26.530 I mean, it's a big jigsaw puzzle and you bring a piece and I bring a piece and 01:20:27.130 --> 01:20:33.630 After a while it starts to take shape and we start to to to see the you know, what's out there, but 01:20:34.310 --> 01:20:34.710 um 01:20:35.510 --> 01:20:37.430 I'm just I'm glad that uh 01:20:37.950 --> 01:20:44.170 I'm glad that people are starting to ask some questions now. Yeah, I I would agree with you that maybe they're not paying attention to the 01:20:44.170 --> 01:20:46.090 mainstream media anymore, but they are 01:20:46.690 --> 01:20:51.050 Paying attention. Maybe it's just as simple as getting lied to that's what did it to me 01:20:51.050 --> 01:20:56.950 I got lied to so much by the media that it it infuriated me. I just wanted to go out there and prove them wrong and now 01:20:56.950 --> 01:20:57.650 you know 01:20:57.650 --> 01:21:01.750 Went from despising the media to now being a part of it with activist 01:21:01.750 --> 01:21:07.310 I suppose that's that's sort of how it goes, right? I wanted to prove them wrong so badly that i'm like 01:21:07.310 --> 01:21:13.030 This is how you do it the right way, right, right? You want to prove so so wrong so badly that you go out and do it every day 01:21:13.030 --> 01:21:18.410 Yeah, every day every single day. We get to do I know I frankly enjoy it 01:21:18.410 --> 01:21:19.170 I like I you know 01:21:19.170 --> 01:21:23.930 I'm glad we're the point where we are in real time watching people whether mainstream alternative or mainstream 01:21:24.470 --> 01:21:28.350 Get seen for what they really are there is a level of enjoyment there because they deserve it 01:21:28.350 --> 01:21:31.950 You know and I think that accountability is it's nice to see and hopefully we can get more of that 01:21:31.950 --> 01:21:35.310 So fairly always a pleasure brother. Thank you for being here and as always 01:21:35.310 --> 01:21:39.730 Out there question everything come to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant 01:21:40.970 --> 01:21:47.850 I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough and it's very hard for me to see how the United States 01:21:50.110 --> 01:21:52.190 President can get us to war with Iran 01:21:54.310 --> 01:21:58.390 Which leads me to conclude that if in fact compromise is not coming 01:21:59.070 --> 01:22:04.590 That the traditional way of america gets to war is what would be best for you as interests 01:22:05.030 --> 01:22:09.750 Uh, some people might think that mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into the world war two as david mentioned 01:22:09.750 --> 01:22:11.450 You may recall. We had to wait for pearl harbor 01:22:12.090 --> 01:22:15.110 Some people might think mr. Wilson wanted to get us into world war one 01:22:15.110 --> 01:22:17.710 You may recall. He had to wait for the lucetani episode 01:22:18.230 --> 01:22:21.210 Some people might think that mr. Johnson wanted to send troops to vietnam 01:22:21.210 --> 01:22:23.930 You may recall. We had to wait for the gulf of tonkin episode 01:22:25.010 --> 01:22:28.970 We didn't go to war with spain until the uss until the main exploded 01:22:29.590 --> 01:22:34.130 And may I point out that mr. Lincoln did not feel he could call out the federal army 01:22:34.130 --> 01:22:39.410 Until fort sumpter was attacked which is why he ordered the commander at fort sumpter to do exactly that thing 01:22:39.410 --> 01:22:42.590 Which the south carolinians had said would cause an attack 01:22:43.710 --> 01:22:49.090 So if in fact the iranians aren't going to compromise it would be best if somebody else started the war 01:22:53.290 --> 01:22:55.670 But I would just like to suggest that 01:22:56.210 --> 01:22:58.970 One can combine other means of pressure with sanctions 01:22:59.610 --> 01:23:01.310 I mentioned that explosion 01:23:01.890 --> 01:23:05.130 On august 17th we could step up the pressure 01:23:06.370 --> 01:23:11.390 I mean look people iranian submarines periodically go down someday one of them might not come up 01:23:11.950 --> 01:23:12.770 Who would know why? 01:23:14.330 --> 01:23:18.810 We can do a variety of things if we wish to increase the pressure. I'm not advocating that 01:23:19.310 --> 01:23:20.990 But i'm just suggesting that 01:23:22.110 --> 01:23:28.310 This is not a either or proposition of you know, it's just sanctions has to has to succeed or other things 01:23:28.830 --> 01:23:30.330 We are in the game 01:23:31.310 --> 01:23:33.610 Of using covert means against the iranians 01:23:35.630 --> 01:23:37.830 We we could get nastier at that