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James

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Welcome

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To the Delling pod with me James Delling Paul and I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest

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Welcome to the Delling pod Christopher Sparks. Um, I am actually really I'm looking I was so looking forward to this conversation

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It was prompted by this really I've known about you for a while and I haven't really been able to get a handle on you

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I sort of asked around you know like

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Do you know about Christopher Sparks and his some keys of the kingdom Bible?

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Because I I want I wanted a an independent take as it were because I mean you could be a completely mad bloke who's just

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Come up with a rubbish translation of the Bible and making all sorts of claims or you could be a

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Total genius who's completely transformed our understanding of what the Bible really meant and stuff

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And you know, do you find this problem with it when you're trying to sell yourself and your and your Bible?

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Trying to convince people that you're not kind of a nutcase

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Well to some people yes, but you know, I give the evidence

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There's a New Testament

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Translation if you can call it that that one of my students don't be about 20 years ago

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And it says in the preface God told me to do this

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and

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The standard of the preface was about a level student students, you know, it wasn't sort of a scholarly

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Written

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Piece of work at all and the translation was awful and he said God told him to do it. Well, where's the evidence?

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Yes, well, let's let's let's start at the beginning shall we where tell me about yourself

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All right

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Where do I begin I was born in Birmingham in the early 50s 1951

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And I've lived down here in the south of England most of the time sense apart from some time in Wales and Oxford and

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My father was a literary man and a

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Grammarian and he was always quoting

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Shakespeare and Dr. Johnson and other pieces of poetry. He's he taught drama in English

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So I grew up with hearing all this and course when you're young you think yeah

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Yeah, dad, but when you get a bit older you start thinking hold on

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I think dad dad was a polymath and all these things that he knew were remarkable and

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I just naturally started reading

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Reading and writing poetry without anybody telling me to do it. It just happened. I just did it and

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so my love of literature grew from there and then my dad and I were running a bookshop and

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So I was

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managing that and

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Of course, I could get

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reduced-price books and I was getting

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Mainly reading art books because art historians write well and I was interested of course in the artworks and so I was building up a collection of

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books and then poetry and

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Then one day I

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Was in a wine bar listening to a folk band and in the interval

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I got talking to the leader of this folk band and he was

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In quote marks of born-again Bible-believing Christian and

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But he was interested in asking poetry and music and philosophy and all the things I've been reading and so

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He asked me to join his band, which I did and so I

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Got very friendly with this fellow

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And one day I went to his his church, which I lived just a few yards from and I heard the Bible read and

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Him's song and prayers read. I'd never heard anything like this as a small evangelical church and

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I walked out of there a changed man

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Can I just put just to pause you there what what were you playing in this folk band? What was it? Oh?

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harmonica and

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reading poetry

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I

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Thought not not being rude, but

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I'm not sure I wanted what would have wanted to come and see you wouldn't it been quite

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Annoying having somebody playing harmonica and reading poetry when you want kind of you know, you want

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Well, you know you want a bit of kind of

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Well, I wasn't really in poetry and playing the harmonica at the same time

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But

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Separate things I love the harmonica. It's a great instrument. I will say you can take it anywhere

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I've usually got a harmonica on me. I walk the hills

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Play the songs I love

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But now since then those days I've taken up the guitar and play guitar and harmonica and

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So part of my

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Did you have success in this folk band or was it purely a hobby?

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We weren't making money. We weren't doing it for that because this fellow was

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Christian and he was doing it to talk about God through it and Christ through his songs. So so you were doing

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Christian folk

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Well, yes, and some of this fellow's own

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Compositions which were beautiful and he was so gifted

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And really really gifted. I'll say was he died a few years ago. Oh, he was brilliant. He really was brilliant

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So I interrupted you so see you then had this this epiphany at

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This evangelical church and that inspired you to

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Dot dot dot

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Well as I saw I was getting cheap cheap books reduced books from the shop

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I was managing with my dad and

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First thing I did was get myself a cheap Bible

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You know, I just walked out of that church

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I walked into that church not wanting to serve God because I didn't even know what it meant

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I I thought it meant being a goodie-goody and staying at home reading books. Ironically, that's what I was doing anyway

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but

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So I couldn't wait to when I walked out of that church

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I couldn't wait to serve God and get a Bible and find out what it's all about and

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That's what it was about for me from the very beginning the word of God and

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So I got an NIV

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New international version and I devoured it and I took it everywhere, you know, South of France

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I've worked for a while and I just took this thing everywhere and it felt a bit

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And then I started looking at some other versions then early 1990s. I

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New Testament manuscripts and

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Then I started finding out more and more things and

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Then I came across the works of Dr. E. W. Bullinger. Have you come across him? No

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Tell me what he edited the Companion Bible published about 1913 14 and

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On the eve of the First World War. It's the King James Bible with margin notes thousands and thousands of them

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And so it was the beginning of January 1995 that I discovered Bullinger. So

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He was raising translation issues and

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Interpretation issues which I never come across in churches

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You have to get out of churches to find the truth. You get out into the wilderness. Yeah of the wilderness

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And so

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This Companion Bible and I was reading all these margin notes sitting in my front garden that summer

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hot summer

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in my cricket cap and reading these thousands and thousands of margin notes and

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Then started typing up on my PC hard drive passages, which have got to be adjusted

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So there was another book by Bullinger how to enjoy the Bible

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That sounds a sort of mainstream

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Paperback at the back of the church, but it's not it's a scholarly book with Hebrew and Greek words

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And so I was devouring these two books and making all these notes

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Then in the August of 1997 I was in Barak on tweed in a private library

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I was staying as a guest

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for a week on holiday and I

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Heard two old boys up at the books while I was sitting at a desk in this library reading

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They were talking about immortality of the soul

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so

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This

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Peaks my interest and I had to go and interrupt them ask them what they were talking about and

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They said immortality of the soul. I said why and one of them is rather like my granddad a rather tall or

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Steer man with his hands behind his back rather military. Well, it's not right, is it and I said

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Why not and he said Ezekiel 18 verse 4 the soul that sineth it shall die

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Oh, yes. Oh

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Yes, of course in the church is this immortal soul you take it for granted that when you die

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You go off somewhere your soul or your spirit. They never quite decide which it's soul or spirit

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But there was Ezekiel saying the soul whose sins will die

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Ezekiel 18 for and

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this man had

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Roland wicks had also

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Published a booklet about this called the path to immortality. It's in the bibliography at the back of my translation

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So he gave me a copy and well, I devoured this

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And on the train coming home

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From Berwick to Hampshire

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And I was thinking well if the immortality of the soul is a fake teaching which this man

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Illustrated to me is a fake teaching

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Well, then hell can't be true either. So I started looking into that

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Well a week or two later. I was sitting by a local lake

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in the sunshine and

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Thinking about all these things and thinking about William Tyndale and I decided that moment

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We've got to have a proper translation

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That's how it began August 97

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that and

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Did you have the

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the Greek

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And the Hebrew at that time

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No, no, that's the interesting thing James as soon as I began this all the right people started clustering around me

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somebody who had

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Remarkable

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technological skills

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unlike myself and so he set a program that would

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superscript all the

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Passages the numbers of the passages of the Bible

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and so he did all that for me and

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Then I was on holiday in

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Where was it land done on north of Wales?

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Excuse me in a bed and breakfast breakfast called Beth Eden

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So the house of Eden and I met there a Hebrew and great scholar who wrote out for me a list of all the books that I'd need and

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He got a hundred percent for his Hebrew exam in University

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96 for the Greek or it might be the other way around

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And so remarkable man to meet and also with all that he was a Christian

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Completely by chance you met this guy

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Well the previous holiday in Bericom tweed

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I'd been told about him that he would be in Landudno at this bed and breakfast

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So with these people I was on holiday with

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Now one of them knew this fellow and said he'd be in Landudno

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So it was the same group of people so so I went knowing he'd be there, but not knowing

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You know quite what a remarkable

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Linguist he would be and what a help we'd be to each other

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And so he didn't understand the war about the New Testament manuscripts, which I did and he is now

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Kind of world-class expert in this he's taken it to another level and his work has been an immense help for me

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And in that field as well, I do quite like stories about miracles Christopher, and I have to say I'm lightly disappointed

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I was hoping to say and I came down to breakfast and I was thinking who is gonna help me in this this this task

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I have given myself. Where am I gonna get the Greek and the Hebrew and then

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Across the I asked this man to pass me the salt and he said by the way

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I

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Wasn't far off that and the books that he he wrote right out for me

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Handwrote this list. I got every single one of them and he was right. I used them all

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Did you teach yourself Greek well, he he taught me he taught you that's brilliant. Yeah, um, yeah, and

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I

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Imagine it was quite a long project

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I mean, how does it take to translate the Bible?

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Well, I began in I'd say I began in September 97. I didn't haven't got the exact date

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from my notebooks

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But

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you know the

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September 97 that's 28

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years and a bit ago and so

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It's been sorry 97 not 98

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September 97 that's 28 years and six months and

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I've been doing it intensely every day. I mean, I eventually gave up or paid work and been living on faith

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And had to do it and I knew that it was obvious. God wants his word translated properly

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So just from that that obvious statement. I knew

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I was doing the right thing and I could see the other Bibles where there were

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Repeated errors

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right

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and

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Living on faith. I mean, I know it does say in the scriptures, you know asking you shall receive and

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There's wonderful lines in in Matthew Matthew 6 about about the you know

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Don't worry about the stuff God will take care of it. I forget the exact quote, but um, did that work for you?

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Well, yes, it's about, you know

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Sat in your mind on the kingdom of the heavens and all these things will be added to you. Is that what you're thinking of?

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No, well

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Yeah, yeah

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Well, it's it's it's the it's the bit of Matthew when he talks about consider the lilies and all that and he and he

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Oh, yes

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They don't think about don't think about clothes because God will go to provide them and don't worry about food

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It's got to provide them, but um, I mean did that happen to you? Did you where very much so?

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Yes, that's been the provision has been utterly remarkable. I could not have done this without the support of other people

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Yeah, it has been truly remarkable miraculous

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Some people were giving you sorry to iron on I'm just well, I mean just food detail food

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Well, who paid for your bills and stuff? Well, and I have I'm 75, so I have a state pension and

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But I get royalties from the books not very much

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Not very much because it's not a mainstream bestseller yet, but it's gonna have to be no

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28 years that you were doing this engaged in this project. What what what did you do? Well, I had some savings price God, right?

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okay, um and

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um

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I've read

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I've read at least one of your essays on the subject and I was very interested in what you had to say

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about the the King James

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Bible and I have to say in my in my days of ignorance when I was sort of

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Anormy, do you know what anormy is? I do. Yeah, I used to be for most of my life. I was a normie and I and

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normie establishment. What's more I?

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sort of

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Public school and then Oxford and all that and I I I kind of

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believed in in the stories we were told and I believed in shake

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I thought I thought a man from Stratford had written Shakespeare and I

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I thought the greatest British Empire was a great endeavor and I thought the King James Bible was really the only one

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It was it was written in the language of God and and there were all sorts of

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Books to support me in this, you know the people like Adam Nicholson wrote a book about the making of the of the King James Bible and

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now

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Probably not as much as you but I look at it with it with a degree of skepticism and good

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Yeah, yeah

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But before we go there, and I think that is interesting point of discussion

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tell me about

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the different versions of the

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Old and New Testaments

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Because I'm at the moment correct me if I'm wrong. I'm inclining

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Towards the Septu a

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Septuagint. Is it a Septuagint or a jint? Is it Septuagint?

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Septuagint. I'm inclined inclined towards the Septuagint. I think that the Masoretic texts are a sort of medieval

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Jewish thing not as reliable as the

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Septuagint, but you tell me am I right or wrong?

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All right, first of all, I'll have to pick up on your mention of Adam Nicholson his book Power and Glory

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Making of the King James Bible

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He he's a contemporary historian Adam Nicholson. I've read other books of him

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He's a most wonderful writer his power of narrative is second to none and he

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in this book Power and Glory

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Describes the character of King James and of the translators and

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From which I have to say the spirit of Jesus was not in them and the spirit of Jesus could not come out of them

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He really exposes their character and in my book

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Have I got a copy here? Yes in my book the study companion with the keys of the kingdom Bible

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I pay royalties to Adam Nicholson to quote length from his book

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Exposing the characters

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But really he should be paying me back some royalties because I've recommended his book

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There's so many people have come back to me and said what a magnificent book so

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It's evidence against the character of the translators and of the commissioning king

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So the king was throwing in jail those who would not bow down to his church of England religion

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and

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He was using his translators including the chairman so Lancelot Andrews as

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Inquisitors so they were going into filthy dungeons

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Acting as inquisitors and trying to trick Christians Christians, so persecutors of Christ

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So that's the first thing about King Josh Bible the people behind it were not godly people

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So the spirit of God could not come out of them

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Yes, who was the worst I mean I really didn't want you to do this because I wanted to because I think this is a

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No, where have you gone?

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Sorry

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You ignored my you ignored my instructions and and went straight into the King James Bible and the problem is that we're not gonna have to go there

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Rather anyway, doesn't matter tell me you asked about the yeah, I mentioned it

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We'll go back and then we'll go forward because I wanted to pick up on your mention of Nick. Yeah, I know you did

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so Lancelot Andrews he was clearly

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Remember this scene where you're right the some of the some of these translators are going to torture

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Christians

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Christians who just don't go with it with it with the mainstream narrative. I can't remember what their particular

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Objections were but but you're right the it's not a godly thing to be going

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To torment people over tiny doctrinal differences

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No, so lots of Andrews who else was there? Oh Robert overall and there was somebody else with a surname sparks

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I forget his surname first name

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Sparks terrible terrible individual. I hope there's no relation of mine of mine, but

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In the preface to my translation I mentioned the names of these people and

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So, yeah, would you go to a sermon?

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Listen to the doctrine

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From somebody who's just been persecuting

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Torturing the sons of God, you know, yeah

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Being tortured to death didn't they these members sort of translating the King James Bible and

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Preaching and then going to dungeons to act as inquisitors. They really was that bad

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Yeah, so you can't trust them and so Lancelot Andrews the chairman of the translators

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Well, you say yes, you remember that particular scene. That's quite early in the book. Oh

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Here's a nasty cold-blooded cold-hearted inquisitor

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Horrible man. Yeah

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So I get that I get that they weren't nice people although that doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't

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Sufficiently scholarly to deliver a good translation, but I suppose they were also politicians

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So it's rather they were enthralled to the regime. So they had to produce a particular

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Slant is that is another problem?

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Well, yes, very much so I mean they were commissioned to do it paid to do it so yeah, well that's easy, isn't it?

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But how many were there? Oh

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about 50 odd

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And

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So there are remarkable

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Contradictions and inconsistencies such as world without end and at the end of the world

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Well, which is it, you know, I saw 45 17 and Ephesians 3 21 world without end

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Matthew 13 at the end of the world, but which is it? Actually, it's neither of them. They're both wrong

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Uh, so

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You know, it says in early one Corinthians chapter two or three

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Spiritual things are understood spiritually. Well, if you're a persecutor of Christians, you cannot be

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One of Christ's shape you just cannot be because you wouldn't act like that

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And so if you do not have the spirit of Christ in you, it's not going to come out in you

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So they did not understand spiritual things and I'll say that from the mountaintops

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They did not understand spiritual things and so every major theme

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Of the word of God is shipwrecked in the king james bible every major theme

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That is going to be anathema of course to

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So many americans because I mean if we like the kjv over here

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I'd say a huge chunk of american

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Christians

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Uh, they think it's it's not just the best the best translation

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But the only translation and you've probably you've probably seen this on the internet

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There are these various the kjv only I get more trouble from them than any anyone

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I could take some of them to court the things they've said

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Really the screen shots or facebook things that have been said I could take them to court

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But they also do things like numerology don't they whether that they talk about the the

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Well, I've it's been a while since I looked at that one, but I've seen people saying that it is literally

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gods gods creation because of the

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The symmetry and the number and where the words appear and

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If you run it through a computer this all that happens and you come across these theories, haven't you?

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Well, yes concerning the king james bible. That's all myth

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um

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There is a remarkable

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numerical structure to the word of god

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In the hebrew and greek there really is

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Um, and there's an appendix at the back of my translation

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Keys of the kingdom. Have you seen my translation james? I haven't no. I haven't no. All right. Well, this is it

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Um, it's red and gold edition 2024. There's an appendix about

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The miracle of genesis one verse one, which in hebrew is

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Now there's a remarkable numerical structure to that showing that no human mind could have come up with that sentence

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And so, you know, I've analyzed it deeply but to say that the king james bible

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make some miraculous

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Um

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Mathematical answer is fallacy

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Because well, it might do within itself

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But not it would not translate back into what the prophets and apostles wrote. So this has been my

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labor to translate to produce a translation that would translate back exactly into the original

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And the king james bible would not do that. I mean, I give one example

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I've already given to world of that end and at the end of the world both of which are wrong

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um

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john one three

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All things were made through him were made. That's wrong

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so

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the

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Greek verb verbs to make or create our poeio and cotizo. Well, it's not either of those in john one three

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It's a genito which is the standard it came to pass

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It's nothing to do with anybody creating anything now. This is grammar

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And this grammar I learned from my father and I learned from schools and I learned from university and I taught at university

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and

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People do not look at this grammar. They say

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Um, all all things were made through him were made. It's in the king james bible. It's right. Well, hold on

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Look at the greek a genito

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so when these kjv only people

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scream at you and

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um

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Say that it's inspired by god and it's better than other translations. What they'll do is compare it to other translations

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They'll never compare it back to the hebrew and greek

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So a genito means it came to pass it arose it happened

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So just just just clarify what what should it what what should the sentence read?

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Oh, right. I'll read it from from here

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I mean it all things arose through it

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Everything arose through it meaning the logos

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All things arose through the word of god

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Here we are

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Everything through it arose and apart from it there arose not even one thing that has arisen

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You see it's what arose

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through the word of god

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And john's testimony everything in this gospel on writing you

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Has been inspired by the word of god arose through the word of god activated by god's word

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And at the end he also makes testimonies that all these things are true

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So it's if you like is a cliche it's book-ended with john's testimony that everything in it is true and from the word of god

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It's nothing to do with anybody creating anything anywhere. It's all made up

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And but how does that what does that do to the significance of that of that phrase just just explain

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So is if i'm stupid

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All right. Well, it's john one three is john's testimony

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That everything in his gospel

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That he records in this narrative of events

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That happened through christ

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They were all through the power of the word of god

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Whereas the kjv and the other institution by was try to make out they twist it

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And try to make out that it's a passage showing that jesus was the creator in genesis one one

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But there is no verb in john one three that means make or made

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Um i'm still being being thick here

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Right well they are trying to

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Present you

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With a passage to show that jesus is the creator in genesis one

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Who made the heavens and the earth but he wasn't it was Elohim

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So what they're saying is false. They're doctrine is false

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jesus was born in batty ham

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And romans one says that he was out of the seed of david

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And so we know where he was born in batty ham

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right

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So he wasn't around when Elohim was creating the heavens and the earth

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Okay, all things are made by him without him was not anything made

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Right, okay, so see that's fake translating

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I can see it's bad. It's it's it's inaccurate

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Translating and and you could be right. It could be

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Uh political. What what do you think about?

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um

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Um king james being

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Essentially an occultist. Well, I know it wasn't occultist. Do you think he was do you think he was even a

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believing christian

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What do you think he's one of the working for the dark side?

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No, I think he might have been a christian in flesh called himself a christian as many people do

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but you know he you have to be

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reborn

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By renewed by the spirit of god. That's what happened to me

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In december 1979, you know as i've expressed it many times the old christopher sparks died in good riddance

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And a new christopher sparks walked out of that church

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Just yearning to get a bible and to learn what it was all about

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Well, yeah, you can call yourself a christian

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But the queen did recent queen

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Well, she obviously wasn't I I you you weren't listening to my

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podcast i've just recorded with

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Jesse sabota

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Oh, it was a former mother of darkness. Do you know do you know about the mothers of darkness?

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No, I don't

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Well, you know that satanists run the world, don't you?

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Yes, yeah, um

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The mothers of darkness are the kind of the high priestesses of this the satanic

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Cult whatever um, and she tells she tells me believe it or not that the queen was

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On the council of nine and the council of the nine is a very very very high up and evil

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occultic

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Organization, so yeah, I don't think I don't think our beloved queen how late beloved queen lisabeth was in fact

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A woman of god either. I don't think the I don't think the rules

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generally, I think they've been

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Somebody told me they've been satanists since about 1327

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All right, I didn't know that king alfred was a bible believer

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And there's a wonderful statue of him at the foot of the high street in winchester

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and

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Now he translated some passages of the bible and he wanted to run

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his country along the laws of god

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But that's certainly not what's happened to us in the last 70 years since the second world war

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Just everything wrong and bad has got its nose in the tent

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Got its camel through the gate

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and

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So was king james a christian he might have called himself a christian but

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He was not a bible believer in christian. Otherwise, he would not have authorized

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What the translators came up with?

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And right these doctrines

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That they upheld like the three gods and satan and hell immortal soul

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Virgin birth all these are from ancient babelon

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Right. Yes

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You're aware of that then james

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Yes. Well, I am because of a book that

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Another

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Book lover collector. He runs an antiquarian bookshop and he's an even he's an evangelical late year

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And he gave me this book

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on how

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The

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Well the the catholic church sort of um, uh, uh, incorporated lots of kind of babelonian

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Myths, you know, we know what's the book called synchretism

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What is it called? Um

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I've mentioned it before on the podcast. I forget. I'll go I'll go and get it in the moment. You've probably got it

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Yeah, I've got a couple of books about that. Hang on. I was going to check in the book. I think it's

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That two babelons

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Oh, yeah, yeah, I've got reverend alexander his lop his lop. Yes. Yes. I've got that wonderful

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That's in my bibliography at the back of my translation

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I knew you'd know it and I could say it's a great read and it's particularly great

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If you are of a sort of anti-popish

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Disposition and you and it and it's sort of you think oh the catholics they believe all this nonsense about this and that

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But I have heard since

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That he's his scholarship is not first rate

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That he makes he makes he makes some errors

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He makes he's he's he's so kind of way with his argument that he's that he sometimes

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Uh uses dodgy evidence to support his thesis

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All right, well, I wouldn't just put this on the catholic church

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I think that's the catholic church is an easy target

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Right because of what we know about the vatican

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But the Protestant church believes these same things

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And even before the catholic church arose through

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Bishop Damascus

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These things were being taught, you know the immortal soul and hell it's in Luke 16

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And Jesus tells the story of the poor man who goes to Abraham's bosom, which is not the biblical

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Place and the rich man who goes to Hades, which is not the biblical place either

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But did you know that story?

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Luke 16 is straight out of Homer

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It's in Homer's odyssey. It's a man called tantalus

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so

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first Homer wrote the

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The Iliad the nine years war and then the odyssey the odyssey this journey by the soldier Odysseus

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His return home to his wife Penelope in all his adventures. It's a travel fiction and on the way

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Global warming is a massive con. There was no evidence whatsoever

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That man-made climate change is a problem that is going to kill us that we need to amend our lifestyle

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In order to deal with it. It's a non-existent problem. But how do you explain this stuff to your normie friends?

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Well, I've just brought out the revised edition to my 2012 classic book

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Watermelons, which captures the story of how

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Some really nasty people decided to invent the global warming scare in order to

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fleece you to take away your freedoms to take away your land

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It's a shocking story

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I wrote it as I say in well 2011 actually it the first edition came out

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And it's a snapshot of a particular era the era when

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The people behind the time climate change scan got caught red-handed

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Tinkering with the data

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Torturing till it screamed in a scandal that I helped christen climate gate

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So I give you the background to to the skull jugglery that went on in in these seats of learning where these supposed

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Experts were informing us. We've got to act now

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I rumbled there's their scam. I then asked the question. Okay, if it is a scam

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Who's doing this and and why?

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It's a good story

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I I've kept the the original book pretty much as is but I've written two new

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chapters one at the beginning and one at the end

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Explaining how it's even worse than we thought

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I think it's a I think it still stands up. I think it's it's a good read

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Obviously I'm biased, but I'd recommend it you can buy it from

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jamesdellingpole.co.uk

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forward slash shop

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But you'll probably find that might just go to my website and look for it jamesdellingpole.co.uk

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And I hope it helps keep you informed and gives you the material you need to bring around all those

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People who are still persuaded that

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It's a disaster. We must amend our ways and appease the gods appease mother god

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There we go. It's a scam

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So

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first Homer wrote the

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The earlier the nine years war and then the odyssey the odyssey this journey by the soldier Odysseus

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His return home to his wife Penelope and all his adventures. It's a travel fiction and on the way

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Odysseus is given a guided tour of Hades and now he sees a man named tantalus

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Who is tantalizingly close to get in a drink of water?

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And fire keeps coming and so this story got circulated and then picked up by the scribes and Pharisees

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whom Jesus was rebuking in Luke 16 and saying that they're money lovers

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So by having this man poor man this beggar in Abraham's bosom

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They were saying look at the great rewards for being poor and then they could oppress them with taxes

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And so we see already before the Catholic church this idea of

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Eternal torture was being taught and the immortal soul was being taught

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And then it got incorporated into Luke

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Well, Jesus told that story

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Oh, I see

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To expose the scribes and Pharisees is it such a ridiculous story and some people say to me

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There we are Luke 16 Jesus description of hell. They don't the irony is Jesus is mocking it

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He's mocking it. You're a story and it's you know, you can find it in Homer's odyssey

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and so

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It was a fiction story. It was circulating and

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um

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So, yeah, the rich man goes off to punishment. So don't want to be rich

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Meanwhile, the scribes and Pharisees are raking it in so the hypocrites

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So these things were around and of course in the new testament there's Beelzebub

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So, you know another mythological thing

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So my point is that these things were around before the Catholic church

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Do you think we should go back to the beginning now?

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Uh, I mean you've

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You can maybe clear up some confusion. I have

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Lots of people have probably

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About what is the most trustworthy original source

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for the bible

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Right

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Yeah, now that's a difficult question to answer because it's a mixture

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This goes back to your early point about the old testament and new testament text

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So, um

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I think the best thing for people to get hold of is jp greens into linear and the keys of the kingdom bible

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So my translation has been main mainly done through jp greens

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Hebrew and greek into linear

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But by no means sticking slavishly to it there are so his old testament is based on the masoretic

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You've already raised the septuagint

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There are some passages where the septuagint has got it right and the masoretic has got it wrong

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but overall

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Um, we have to be discerning because both of them

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Have got the old testament books in the wrong order

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Both of them have got the song of Solomon and Esther which are not biblical books

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There's no righteous person in them. They're just celebrations of sin and lust

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and revenge

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And so they've both got that they've both got the prophecies of edicule in the wrong order

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Did you know about edicule made 13 dated prophecies?

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And they should obviously be in chronological order

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But they're not in the masoretic text the septuagint text the king james bible. They're just an absolute muddle

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And this is deliberate. It was done deliberately

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Was it by whom?

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Well, whoever

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Had charge over the manuscripts

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So the scrolls would have been on rollers so

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Unrolling the scroll of edicule possibly a mistake could have been made but funny that the mistake ends with

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Having the book of edicule concluding with chapters 40 to 48 which talk about

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Reconstructed temple and circumcision and bringing back all the feasts and sacrifices

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Well, all these things were done away within christ

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But it looks as if you know, there's going to be another temple built in Jerusalem

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So that's why they've concocted it like that and of course most christians think that that is a kind of prophetic

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Structure, but it's not the last prophecy

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And there's not going to be another temple. You know, they tried it once in Jerusalem and fire came out of the ground

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The laborers couldn't get near it. That's what will happen again

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um

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So

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You say got it, right

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Um, how do you know what is

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In apart from discernment. How do you know what is what the actual?

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uh

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Correct version of you mean the the order of the prophecies

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Because they're just generally

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Oh, well, yeah grandma

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Grandma like that. John 1 3, you know a genitov. It's not a plural passive transitive

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Dynamic verb. It's a stative intransitive

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Single active. So they've really got it wrong and they've messed up the doctrine

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and then

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I mean I could give countless examples at 2 Timothy 1 9 and Titus 1 2

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Before the world began in the king giant. It's nothing like that's nothing like the great. No, no, sorry. Sorry

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I'm you see your problem, Christopher is you know far too much

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and I'm trying to

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Maintain some discipline here and keep you on track because we're not always clever as you

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And I'm just I'm trying to get down to the because if you're talking about the correct translation

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We need to know that the stuff you're translating is trustworthy, don't we?

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So I'm I'm I'm quite interested to know

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um

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The septuagint am I right in thinking

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predates

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The masoretic text by about what a thousand years

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Right. Well, this in my opinion is all myth

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I do not believe that the septuagint was made before the days of christ. I don't believe it

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I don't believe that jesus and paul cited from the septuagint

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I believe that the translator

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singular translator of the septuagint

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used the greek new testament text

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to

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where

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christ and paul cited the hebrae prophets

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The translator used those to save him a bit of translator from the hebrae. That's why they line up

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And there were two bishops

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In the victorian time west cotton horde now they concocted a false new testament

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text

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But so they were not exactly men of christ

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However, they were extremely knowledgeable and they said that oregon was the translator of the septuagint and I agree with them

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There aren't many places I agree with them, but I agree with that

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Oregon

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Oregon, yeah, second third century

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and

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Third century ad

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Yes, yes, and that's why some of the passages where christ and paul cite the prophets

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Are the same as the septuagint because the septuagint translator used what they said. Oh, I see

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Well, that could be right

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I don't

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You see this is the problem christopher with with

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So much. Well, I often say that christianity is the biggest

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and deepest of all the rabbit holes

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because

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Yes, a we all

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Well, certainly there's a verse you believe in god

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Um, agree that it's the most important

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thing

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Yeah, um, but then

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You've got 2000 years just just

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since since christ time

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2000 years of

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some of the the most learned scholars that have ever existed

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And they've all reached different conclusions about this stuff

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And it's very very hard to know and then you've got the authorities like the the various churches

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It's very very hard to you must must have found this

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hard to know

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whom to trust and and

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Because these are not stupid people

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but

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You know, I mean if you're right if if if the

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septuagint was was was was written by or organ

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Um

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And the the masoretic text of what no well the masoretic text that they're they're about a thousand AD aren't they?

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I don't know the exact date

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Um, they're medieval the early medieval

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Yes, but the septuagint recently has developed a bit of a cult following and people a couple of people have written to me

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Why didn't you translate from the septuagint? Well, because you get the same old problems

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You know somebody pops up in youtube video and

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say making a long video about the septuagint and um and so

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People start believing this and it circulates and you know becomes clickbait

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But as I said just now, you know the septuagint has got the same problems with the order of the books

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Two books that shouldn't be in there zikios prophecies in the wrong order

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and um and some other

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real clumsy translations

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But what I do like about it is in genesis 5 and 11 it gets the dates right and so

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I have used the septuagint for those dates and other things as well

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I've got footnotes and I have thousands of footnotes in my translation

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Where I've gone to the septuagint or something else

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um, but genesis 5 and 11 is really important

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Um to get these dates right because the dates in the masoretic make it impossible for christ to be

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um

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chronologically

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descended

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From those people because the years are out and that was done. Are they well, so what dates are we talking about?

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the eight, um the ages

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of certain

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patriarchs and

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um and men

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You know how long they lived when they were born and so the masoretic puts this out now is a complicated video

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about this on youtube which I listened to years ago

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and I had to listen to it several times and

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I forget the name of the man, but again, it's in my bibliography and

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The man who has done this is incredibly

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um detailed and scholarly and

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You know, you really you can't sort of be doing an oil painting and listen to this and keep up with it

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you've got to watch the screen and make notes and

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So that was his

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thesis that it was the dates were put out deliberately in the masoretic text to put out the

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years for christ

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Right

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And the septuagint gets it right

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The septuagint does get it right. Okay. Yeah, right, so I've used their dates and and I footnoted it extensively

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Okay, so

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You've you've translated

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um the bible

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what

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How did it change what you understand about

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Jesus and christianity and what it's all about?

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All right, what a wonderful question. Yeah

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It changed everything

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because

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When I became a believer when I was born again in 1979 or filled with the spirit of god

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I just trusted the church bibles until the beginning of the 1990s

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So the 1980s

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Was not a particularly good decade for me as I was trust in these church bibles

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But 1990s got better and better when I started finding out

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So well, the first thing I found out

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No, was that the immortal soul is not true then the hell is not true

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And then there's a going to heaven and death is not true

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and

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There's one thing after another

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and as I compared the greek and the hebro to the

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English translations I could see, you know, they were completely

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Out of whack as I think this americanism isn't that I don't really like it. Um, but I think that's what they say

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and

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For example, john 1126

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It should say

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And whoever is believing in me will most certainly not die throughout the eon

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That's what the greek says will most certainly not die

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But the king james has whosoever believe it in me

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Some it shall never die never well, there's no word never in the greek of john 1126

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the greek for never is

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And it's not in there

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And then there are five other greek words who may which means most certainly not an intense negative

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So certainly not definitely not die then three words. They leave out ice ton aonia

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This is easy greek

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And I know this was I saw this at the very beginning and it means throughout the eon

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Will most certainly not die throughout the eon that is after the resurrection that jesus and martha were talking about

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Okay, so what does that what does that mean mean in practical terms for us

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Okay, john 1126 in the kjv means don't worry about dying because you go straight to heaven

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john 1126 in the greek of the apostle john

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Means that you will be resurrected

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And the day of resurrection and then you will put on immortality and you won't die

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very different

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Resurrection as opposed to immortal soul the gospel of jesus is the gospel of resurrection

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So

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We do get the period of sort of

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rotting in the ground or

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Or

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um

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Whatever happens if you get cremated

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Uh, and only after jesus comes back. Do we get brought back to life? Is that the idea?

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Yes

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Yes, he said the hour is coming when those who are in the graves

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Will hear my voice john 528

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It's going to be quite hard isn't I I can see the sort of the bones of skeletons, you know

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Like that amazing scene in um

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Is it Ezekiel where the where the where the bones suddenly acquire flesh and

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We had that prophecy of israel

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Really good great scene the true israel. Yeah

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But I can see it's you can see why the satanists invented um

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Cremation can't you because it's going to become much harder for god to to put all those bits back together again

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oh, well

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yeah resurrection is a recreation anyway because uh

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You know a body that's been in the grave for 2000 years. It's just going to be

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Particles of bones

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That's that's right. So it doesn't make much difference. God's just going to go

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Yeah, it gives gives god no problem. Yeah, no, he doesn't you're right

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I mean one one one underestimates god at one's peril

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So, okay. Adam was created out of the dust of the ground

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Yeah, so I get that so okay, so we're talking about a difference in sort of

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Cause and effect and timescale basically that that yeah, yeah

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okay

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Tell me what else we learned that you've learned

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That you know the shockers give give me give me the

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Suck it to me

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all right

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Now some people love this and some people hate it

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and that is

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that the serpent

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In the garden of eden was adam

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Whoa

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Was it

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Now roman's chapter five people read genesis three in isolation

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And think oh here we got adam the serpent and the woman and then god

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Well, there's more to it than that because roman's five is a commentary on it and one Timothy two fourteen is a comment on it

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so

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roman's chapter five say

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Says sin came into the world through one man the transgression of adam

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It was adam who was the sinner created the sin

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Paul doesn't mention any woo woo satan being this just came into the world through adam the transgression of adam

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And then of course you get these paintings of adam and eve naked and

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Taken an apple and there's a snake in a tree. Well, this is more myth

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As if adam like eve was also deceived one Timothy two fourteen. Have you ever read this?

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adam was not deceived

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That's what it says

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Which which one the the the kjp one Timothy two fourteen in the institution bibles

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And the king the keys of the kingdom bible. So it's not a translation problem

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Even in the institution bibles even they say and adam was not deceived right

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So they haven't corrupted that verse, but they don't believe it or had never seen it. So adam was the deceiver

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Was he so what well?

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Where's the snake in all this or isn't it is it not a snake? Well, john the baptist came on the scene

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Calling the enemies of god and christ serpents and matthew 23

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Jesus caused the scribes and Pharisees serpents and in revelation

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John calls the enemy the ancient serpent and the dragon

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And so in Isaiah there's crocodile. So all these animal phrases are used

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No wolves and snakes. These are men women false teachers false prophets

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pseudo-deductors false teachers

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But this the serpent features quite

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prominently in in in genesis

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Well, yes, well, it's adam deceiving his wife. That's why

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Right and what the sort of the patriarchy

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Kind of rewrote this to make the woman the the the fall guy as it were. Yes. Yes, because then

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Genesis 3 15

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First the angel of god, it wouldn't have been god because nobody has seen god

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There'd been the angel of god who always appeared before him as his ambassador angel

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First back to the serpents and then to adam and then to the woman, but the serpent is adam

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So he's talking to the evil nature in adam

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And then to adam the man what would be the consequences of your sin and then to eve

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But it says

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That um

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She will crush the head of the serpent

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But now somebody told me this

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At the stand in the light festival last May where I met your brother and had a good talk with him. Oh

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Yes

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And

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So um, yeah

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So a friend there told me that it should say she crush will crush the head of the serpent and he said that's what it says in the latin

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So I said well if that's what it says in the latin it will be have to be it will have to be very specific

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About the gender because that's how latin works

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And I said I'll look at it when I get home and certainly the latin insists

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She will crush the head of the serpent

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So she was the deceived one

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And in revelation 12 you see

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The woman who that by then is christ

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Sorry, I beg your pardon. Who by then is israel the 12 tribes

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Crushing the head of the serpent the serpent is hauled to the ground biblical

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figure of speech for defeated

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okay

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well

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I just thought it was because women are scared of snakes

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That that it was eve's eve's job. I mean they are girls are

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Screamish about snakes aren't they I thought it was something to do with that

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Not just girls. I am too can't bear them

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So yeah, there's something in them. So that's why

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The angel of god calls adam a serpent and john the baptist and jesus called their enemy's serpents

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Because it's um, it's a figure of speech

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An insult it's called hypocatastasis in the great figure of insult

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And so Jesus called her at a fox now go tell that fox

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Did he

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Okay, I'm going to give you give you a quick test

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Which psalm

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Defox is appearing

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Oh, I don't know

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63

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63

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Right, I should have known that less than fall upon the edge of the sword that they may be a portion for foxes

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How extraordinary you should have mentioned that psalm because verse four is my favorite verse

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His loving kindness is better than life and I'm going to make a video reading that very psalm

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It's on my bed in my top of my part. I mean this is better than the life itself

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I I mean, I suppose we all have our favorite translations

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I was going to actually ask you about this. Um, I I I read in your essay that

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You're demolition of the kjv

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You pointed out that some of the some of the translations they just like they really didn't understand it

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They didn't know they don't make sense. They were just

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We're told that they were a great committee of scholars and that it that there were different

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sections of the bible were allocated to these groups and then they wrangled over it

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But it's clear to me

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just

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I know the psalm is better than any other pastor bible because I read them every day and I I learned them and

01:05:54.590 --> 01:06:00.050
In the early days I was I I thought well, I've got to learn the kjv version. That's the gold standard

01:06:00.670 --> 01:06:00.910
but

01:06:01.410 --> 01:06:03.570
I tend to use the coverdale now

01:06:04.270 --> 01:06:06.590
because he makes more sense and there was

01:06:07.370 --> 01:06:08.330
psalm 64

01:06:09.070 --> 01:06:11.590
psalm 64 was a psalm that I learned

01:06:12.470 --> 01:06:16.370
in my kjv learning days and

01:06:17.090 --> 01:06:21.470
It just it's clumsy. It doesn't sort of um

01:06:22.930 --> 01:06:26.150
I think that the translators didn't quite understand

01:06:27.070 --> 01:06:30.250
What they were translating and came up with this sort of

01:06:30.250 --> 01:06:32.590
Yeah, so do I doggerel

01:06:33.090 --> 01:06:33.410
um

01:06:39.230 --> 01:06:43.410
This bit they encouraged themselves in an evil matter

01:06:43.410 --> 01:06:49.430
That makes sense. They commune of laying snares privily. They say who shall see them

01:06:50.090 --> 01:06:53.090
They search out iniquities. They accomplish a diligent search

01:06:53.090 --> 01:06:57.390
Both the inward thought of every one of them and the heart is deep

01:06:58.190 --> 01:06:59.590
it's such a

01:07:00.450 --> 01:07:04.190
Yeah, I don't I don't really have much of a sense of what's going on

01:07:05.810 --> 01:07:08.230
And then this there's the bit where it says

01:07:08.950 --> 01:07:13.090
So they shall make their own tongue to fall upon themselves

01:07:13.710 --> 01:07:17.930
Make their own tongue to fall upon themselves all that's it

01:07:18.710 --> 01:07:20.890
Whereas the coverdale translation is

01:07:21.750 --> 01:07:24.790
Yay, their own tongues shall make them fall

01:07:25.470 --> 01:07:28.010
That sort of makes more sense that that that

01:07:29.930 --> 01:07:36.670
Their lies and that will undo them. They're going to be tricked up on their own words. Yes, but exactly

01:07:36.670 --> 01:07:40.230
But the king james people were not up to it and they already had

01:07:40.790 --> 01:07:43.370
50 years earlier. They had the coverdale because they because

01:07:43.910 --> 01:07:49.690
They they they nick some of coverdell's phrases wholesale and some of them oblige the change

01:07:49.690 --> 01:07:51.870
I don't where are you on cover? Do you like him?

01:07:52.670 --> 01:07:58.090
I haven't read much of him. I have quoted him somewhere. But no, I haven't read much of it

01:07:58.090 --> 01:08:04.250
Anyway, that's just I I just get you said just now they were not up to it. Well, that is exactly right

01:08:04.250 --> 01:08:11.270
The king james bible translators were not up to it if they were they'd have got the books in the right order

01:08:11.270 --> 01:08:15.450
They would have got the new testament letters in the right order and they haven't

01:08:15.450 --> 01:08:17.270
and they would not have

01:08:17.990 --> 01:08:19.990
Made many of the blunders they make

01:08:19.990 --> 01:08:22.110
Psalm 49 verse 2

01:08:22.630 --> 01:08:24.210
It says both the sons of

01:08:24.810 --> 01:08:26.210
Adam and the sons of men

01:08:26.820 --> 01:08:28.910
And they put both low and high

01:08:29.620 --> 01:08:31.750
Well, that's not what it says

01:08:32.770 --> 01:08:40.730
And I mean there are just so many so many passages and then romans 116 the kjv has got

01:08:42.410 --> 01:08:44.050
Gentiles and greek

01:08:45.040 --> 01:08:46.110
and no

01:08:46.910 --> 01:08:49.950
Now what does it have both

01:08:51.110 --> 01:08:57.710
Both jews and gen both jews and greek both jew and greek then over the page romans 2

01:08:57.710 --> 01:09:01.570
They've got both jew and gentile. They've changed it

01:09:02.430 --> 01:09:08.630
And romans 2 9 2 10 they put jew and gentile. So this french jew and gentile is fake

01:09:09.430 --> 01:09:13.470
It should be jew the height and greek not jew and gentile

01:09:13.470 --> 01:09:18.290
Yes, well, I'm glad you said that because I've done a whole podcast on on this subject with

01:09:18.290 --> 01:09:20.910
Pretty much with william with william think

01:09:21.570 --> 01:09:21.890
who

01:09:23.130 --> 01:09:25.650
Heartily disapproves of this what this invented word

01:09:26.330 --> 01:09:31.070
Gentile which comes from the vulgate doesn't it from it's a it's a lazy translation of gentilis

01:09:31.070 --> 01:09:36.110
Which jerome somehow decided to use but it means nothing

01:09:37.210 --> 01:09:40.330
No, well originally it meant non-roman. So I've read

01:09:40.950 --> 01:09:46.210
It means the nation right. What's what's what's the actual greek word that that's that?

01:09:46.210 --> 01:09:49.890
Um ethnos ethnos the nations exactly yeah

01:09:49.890 --> 01:09:57.290
Nations yeah, yeah, where we get ethnicity and the sort of thing from but you've got so many biblical scholars talking

01:09:57.910 --> 01:10:03.130
Talking about jews and gentiles as if these words had any meaning and they just yeah, yeah

01:10:03.610 --> 01:10:05.770
It should be jew the height and greek

01:10:06.490 --> 01:10:10.770
Now the jew the heights that's the house of jewder and the greeks

01:10:11.390 --> 01:10:19.750
John 735 is he about to go to the dispersion of the greeks and teach the greeks the greeks where the dispersed disraelites

01:10:19.750 --> 01:10:24.630
That's why the new tessaments in greek. That's why paul went to these greek places

01:10:25.490 --> 01:10:32.010
Because that's where the dispersed disraelites were and that vision in acts chapter 10 that peter has

01:10:32.010 --> 01:10:35.630
through the sheet that's lowered and he sees

01:10:36.500 --> 01:10:38.550
Fish and serpents and animals

01:10:39.200 --> 01:10:40.250
These are all

01:10:40.990 --> 01:10:47.650
Names that the house of jewder were calling dispersed israelites. It's all over the old testament

01:10:47.650 --> 01:10:49.550
So is it your contention?

01:10:49.990 --> 01:10:54.490
Because this would be quite controversial. Um, is it your contention that

01:10:55.230 --> 01:10:56.630
paul was basically

01:10:57.390 --> 01:11:02.410
Bringing the dispersed israelites back to the fold. He wasn't he wasn't after other other

01:11:03.550 --> 01:11:05.790
Races he was just basically

01:11:05.790 --> 01:11:08.470
Bringing god's chosen people

01:11:09.470 --> 01:11:13.370
The the 12 the 12 tribes back to their

01:11:14.330 --> 01:11:15.350
Back home

01:11:15.350 --> 01:11:18.390
Right, so you know about this. Yes

01:11:18.390 --> 01:11:19.930
The new covenant

01:11:19.930 --> 01:11:22.470
Is expressed in jeremiah 31

01:11:22.910 --> 01:11:29.330
The whole of the days are coming when I will make a new covenant with the house of israel and the house of jewder

01:11:29.890 --> 01:11:31.830
And then jesus last supper

01:11:31.830 --> 01:11:38.630
He makes the pronounces in new covenant and it's cited in hebra's eight verse eight exactly the words of jeremiah

01:11:39.410 --> 01:11:44.930
I'll make a new covenant with the house of israel and the house of jewder. Those are the covenant people

01:11:44.930 --> 01:11:49.830
There's no covenant with jews and Gentiles. Nowhere is that written however

01:11:50.450 --> 01:11:52.510
However, a lot of

01:11:53.030 --> 01:11:54.750
British israelites would

01:11:55.430 --> 01:11:59.930
Disagree with me and do disagree with me very strongly because they say

01:12:00.570 --> 01:12:06.610
Only israelites can be saved and I really object that I hate that teaching with every fiber of my being

01:12:07.530 --> 01:12:09.850
And yes in two kings

01:12:11.010 --> 01:12:17.510
No, sorry, I think it's two chronicles chapter six. It talks about others

01:12:18.910 --> 01:12:22.330
You know coming foreigners who are not of the house of israel

01:12:22.510 --> 01:12:26.150
It says this and so in two kings. Yeah

01:12:27.450 --> 01:12:32.570
Two chronicles, I think I'll turn to it just so I'm very glad you said this

01:12:33.390 --> 01:12:36.610
Christopher because it makes me uncomfortable too. I think of

01:12:37.270 --> 01:12:37.830
people

01:12:38.650 --> 01:12:44.990
Of african heritage, for example, or maybe people from south america who may be descended from

01:12:45.730 --> 01:12:50.290
Mayans who sacrificed loads of people to the gods but have then then found

01:12:50.850 --> 01:12:51.570
Found christ

01:12:52.250 --> 01:12:58.750
Yeah, are we just are we saying yeah, but they don't count because they were never they were never one of god's chosen people

01:12:58.750 --> 01:13:02.430
So they're they're going to burn in it. I don't believe that I don't believe that

01:13:02.430 --> 01:13:03.710
It's not true

01:13:04.450 --> 01:13:05.850
No, it's a horrible teaching

01:13:06.410 --> 01:13:07.490
and it is fine

01:13:09.790 --> 01:13:12.790
Here we are two chronicles 6 32

01:13:13.550 --> 01:13:20.190
This is Solomon praying and also concerning the foreigner who is not from among your people israel

01:13:20.290 --> 01:13:22.250
That has come from a far country

01:13:22.250 --> 01:13:27.270
For the sake of your awesome name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm

01:13:27.270 --> 01:13:31.830
If they come and pray towards this house, then hear from the heavens

01:13:33.170 --> 01:13:37.370
two chronicles 6 32 so there we have it

01:13:38.070 --> 01:13:42.290
And so I get people writing to me who are not

01:13:42.850 --> 01:13:49.850
Caucasian origin, you know, and they love christ and they understand what I tell them and they're hungry

01:13:50.470 --> 01:13:51.070
and

01:13:51.810 --> 01:13:56.430
That's one of them who absolutely loves he's asian young asian man

01:13:56.890 --> 01:14:03.410
He absolutely loves all this about you know, the white Caucasian Israelites and this whole history

01:14:04.130 --> 01:14:05.070
and so

01:14:05.970 --> 01:14:08.610
Yes, anybody who comes to christ

01:14:10.030 --> 01:14:15.950
Who wants to come to the father and come through christ with a shed blood of christ is going to be forgiven

01:14:16.440 --> 01:14:20.210
You know if you were running a business and two people upset you

01:14:20.210 --> 01:14:26.310
A european and an african and they both sobbed with apology you forgive both of them

01:14:26.310 --> 01:14:28.590
Well, is god not more merciful than us?

01:14:29.130 --> 01:14:31.630
His loving kindness is better than life itself

01:14:32.390 --> 01:14:36.030
Yes, for thy loving kindness is better than the life itself

01:14:36.620 --> 01:14:42.850
Yeah, so this teaching that only white europeans can be saved. I kick it into the sea of forgetfulness

01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:44.310
It's wrong

01:14:45.970 --> 01:14:47.110
Which psalm is that?

01:14:47.950 --> 01:14:48.450
63

01:14:49.330 --> 01:14:50.910
First oh, right. Sorry

01:14:51.770 --> 01:14:55.570
The one we were just talking about only that one. Yeah. Yeah

01:14:56.150 --> 01:14:58.070
So yeah god is merciful

01:14:58.890 --> 01:15:04.310
That's good. Okay. I'm glad we've sorted that one out christopher. Um, so we definitely agree on that so um

01:15:05.230 --> 01:15:05.730
What

01:15:06.870 --> 01:15:07.590
Tell me

01:15:08.190 --> 01:15:09.910
Jesus is the son of god, isn't he?

01:15:10.550 --> 01:15:11.010
Yes

01:15:11.550 --> 01:15:13.710
Few few. Yeah. Yes

01:15:13.710 --> 01:15:14.150
Oh

01:15:14.850 --> 01:15:19.790
You know, I was really what seriously. I was really worried about that one. I thought you were going to tell me that he wasn't

01:15:20.490 --> 01:15:21.530
Ah, right

01:15:22.130 --> 01:15:23.970
Yes, yes, I'm really relieved

01:15:24.730 --> 01:15:25.850
Good good

01:15:26.550 --> 01:15:31.470
good, um, oh and of course there's there are huge schisms

01:15:32.030 --> 01:15:33.910
um between the

01:15:34.710 --> 01:15:38.090
The orthodox and probably everyone else. I don't know about the filio quay

01:15:39.970 --> 01:15:41.950
Do you know about the filio quay?

01:15:41.950 --> 01:15:43.310
No, obviously

01:15:43.930 --> 01:15:47.010
Well, let's not address it here because if you don't know about it, it's just okay

01:15:47.470 --> 01:15:53.050
Whether the the father comes. Oh, no, I can't I can't do it. My my brother's just gone orthodox and

01:15:53.790 --> 01:15:54.230
he

01:15:54.930 --> 01:15:57.590
You know it now matters to him because that's a doctrinal

01:15:58.150 --> 01:16:00.530
thing which is um, I'm quite

01:16:01.670 --> 01:16:04.310
I'm quite naughty in a way and that I I'm not

01:16:05.610 --> 01:16:10.630
Going to commit to any one particular like I love you evangelicals

01:16:11.330 --> 01:16:14.670
But I do have certain problems with

01:16:16.010 --> 01:16:17.150
With you or not

01:16:18.390 --> 01:16:22.090
Which is okay. Well, I'll give you I'll give you okay. I'll give you an example

01:16:22.090 --> 01:16:25.310
This is quite naughty of me, but but okay, so

01:16:25.970 --> 01:16:27.070
the other day I

01:16:27.750 --> 01:16:30.050
I for whatever reason I I

01:16:30.550 --> 01:16:32.190
Went and had tea with this

01:16:32.730 --> 01:16:37.290
Evangelical guy and he's you know a man of a man of God and unlike you

01:16:37.290 --> 01:16:44.350
He could tell me the exact day and hour on which he found God that God came to him and and he was born again and

01:16:44.350 --> 01:16:45.370
and blah blah blah

01:16:46.210 --> 01:16:49.330
And we had we had talks about the Psalms and it was great

01:16:49.910 --> 01:16:52.250
And then he started talking to me about israel

01:16:54.830 --> 01:16:58.970
And he spoke he spoke complete bollocks stuff that I know to be

01:16:59.790 --> 01:17:03.410
Untrue. I mean he was he was sort of he'd fallen for the Zionist fallacy

01:17:03.410 --> 01:17:07.710
The the the stuff that a lot of the kind of evangelical Christians

01:17:07.710 --> 01:17:14.770
Actually, are the evangelicals the Christians in America believe about about the nature of Israel and stuff. Yeah, and I thought

01:17:15.490 --> 01:17:15.770
so

01:17:16.810 --> 01:17:18.270
God's come to you

01:17:18.270 --> 01:17:21.390
in whenever it was 1975 on

01:17:22.010 --> 01:17:28.470
two o'clock in the afternoon on a on a Tuesday and and and you're clearly filled with the spirit and I can tell you

01:17:29.250 --> 01:17:36.390
But he's not vouched safe to you some certain key details. How do I reconcile that with you? You can't

01:17:37.030 --> 01:17:41.410
You can't play the top trumps game of of look

01:17:41.410 --> 01:17:44.810
I was I found God

01:17:45.530 --> 01:17:47.370
I was born again on this day

01:17:48.310 --> 01:17:48.810
but you

01:17:49.650 --> 01:17:53.450
And yet tell me this bollocks you're spouting, you know, do you see what I'm saying?

01:17:53.930 --> 01:17:55.970
Yeah, mainstream stuff

01:17:56.530 --> 01:17:59.530
And I get people comment on my video certainty

01:18:00.770 --> 01:18:05.830
unattractive and actually do you know what prideful the kind of the sort of

01:18:05.830 --> 01:18:08.750
We know that why why pride is considered the worst sin

01:18:08.750 --> 01:18:12.090
Why I always have to try and stop it in myself because it's quite tempting

01:18:12.710 --> 01:18:14.990
But that's that's that's lucifer's sin

01:18:16.810 --> 01:18:17.370
Well

01:18:18.770 --> 01:18:20.670
Lucifer is another fiction

01:18:21.250 --> 01:18:23.790
That should be translated venus

01:18:23.790 --> 01:18:26.510
In Isaiah 14 verse 12

01:18:26.510 --> 01:18:29.350
Now you're really bubbled

01:18:29.350 --> 01:18:30.110
you are

01:18:30.110 --> 01:18:31.990
It says

01:18:31.990 --> 01:18:36.890
What the son of the morning he's venus

01:18:37.770 --> 01:18:41.530
Well, that's gonna ruin that the morning lucifer's one afternoon morning

01:18:42.430 --> 01:18:44.690
Yeah, it's about the king of Babylon

01:18:45.550 --> 01:18:45.890
and

01:18:45.890 --> 01:18:52.490
You said about pride rising up. Well, this happened to the king of tyre. His name was hyron

01:18:52.490 --> 01:19:00.030
And he's spoken about in Ezekiel 28 and people say oh look that's satan because it said eason says eden

01:19:00.030 --> 01:19:03.390
Well, there were other places called eden at that time

01:19:04.170 --> 01:19:08.090
of Ezekiel it's mentioned and um

01:19:08.710 --> 01:19:12.530
But it's about the king of hyrum who was out of the tribe of naftali

01:19:12.530 --> 01:19:15.190
He's an israelite and they're calling him satan

01:19:15.190 --> 01:19:20.990
A man who was a friend of king david a friend of Solomon helped build the temple

01:19:21.850 --> 01:19:22.970
Okay, so

01:19:24.150 --> 01:19:26.430
There was no lucifer no

01:19:27.790 --> 01:19:32.890
Well, the luciferians are going to be in trouble. And aren't they yes, they've been using the wrong name all this time

01:19:33.530 --> 01:19:35.290
I presume, you know the light paper

01:19:35.990 --> 01:19:36.470
Yeah

01:19:36.990 --> 01:19:40.850
Yeah, well when that first came out they asked me for an article about this

01:19:41.330 --> 01:19:44.630
And I said no that there is no satan

01:19:44.630 --> 01:19:48.650
And of course some people hate this because they love having satan in the world

01:19:49.410 --> 01:19:51.690
Because it's somebody to blame but

01:19:52.310 --> 01:19:52.670
what

01:19:53.210 --> 01:19:53.630
um

01:19:53.630 --> 01:20:01.090
Strikes at the heart of human pride is that all sin and evil comes from the human heart from within Jesus said this

01:20:01.530 --> 01:20:09.150
Right now mark 7 15 Jesus says there is nothing outside a man that can defy with him nothing

01:20:10.350 --> 01:20:12.750
So, okay, so

01:20:14.750 --> 01:20:15.230
If

01:20:15.790 --> 01:20:22.690
So all the traditions in your in your understanding about the fallen angels the

01:20:23.250 --> 01:20:24.930
Yeah, tell me about this. Let's talk about the nephilim

01:20:26.230 --> 01:20:29.390
that that's union genesis where where the

01:20:30.290 --> 01:20:31.190
The uh

01:20:31.770 --> 01:20:38.370
The sons of the what is it they find the gods the sons of god go on the daughters of men attractive so they decide to

01:20:39.070 --> 01:20:39.870
Shacken yes

01:20:40.530 --> 01:20:46.630
Well, they're mixing with women. They should not have mixed with there's nothing in there to say that they're fallen angels

01:20:47.330 --> 01:20:52.750
I uploaded a video just this morning about this my video number 309

01:20:52.750 --> 01:20:56.190
It's entitled the sons of god and it deals with this subject

01:20:56.850 --> 01:21:00.930
So in hebrew sons of god is benih el rohim

01:21:01.890 --> 01:21:08.990
And in one translation the jps jewish publication society they put divine beings

01:21:08.990 --> 01:21:13.550
Well, it's benih el rohim, which means sons of god. They're not divine beings

01:21:13.550 --> 01:21:18.970
And there's nothing to say that these nephilim are woo woo creepy spirits

01:21:19.410 --> 01:21:22.790
It just says that um, you know, yeah

01:21:23.450 --> 01:21:23.850
They

01:21:24.470 --> 01:21:28.350
They were different different peoples and they were canaanites

01:21:28.350 --> 01:21:34.630
How do I know that because after the flood they reappear in numbers 13 33

01:21:35.530 --> 01:21:39.250
So you remember the story of joshua and calab men of a different spirit

01:21:39.710 --> 01:21:46.590
Who go over into enemy lines and spy the nephilim and come back and say we can take them

01:21:46.590 --> 01:21:52.050
The nephilim were a canaanite tribe of men. They weren't woo woo creepy spirits

01:21:52.050 --> 01:21:55.250
So the nephilim genesis six is what does nephilim mean?

01:21:55.770 --> 01:21:59.330
For well, it's believed that it means fallen

01:22:00.910 --> 01:22:08.070
Right. Well, that sounds like fallen fallen wise. It's a plural word. It can mean for fallen ones. It could be

01:22:08.610 --> 01:22:09.650
Yeah, so you don't think

01:22:11.750 --> 01:22:12.230
Um

01:22:13.930 --> 01:22:16.510
Not fallen angels doesn't say that

01:22:17.270 --> 01:22:20.730
You're really upsetting me now, um christopher. This is i mean, okay

01:22:20.730 --> 01:22:24.950
So i'm relieved to hear that jesus is the son of god, but i'm now very bothered by your um

01:22:25.250 --> 01:22:29.430
because obviously i'm quite invested in the and the um

01:22:30.180 --> 01:22:31.410
and lucifer and

01:22:31.980 --> 01:22:32.990
okay, so

01:22:34.570 --> 01:22:35.270
um

01:22:36.310 --> 01:22:37.510
you're you're

01:22:38.180 --> 01:22:40.010
You maintain that

01:22:40.930 --> 01:22:48.390
The text does not support the claim that i mean i i agree that it's quite sketchy on on the on this this

01:22:48.390 --> 01:22:50.350
supposed war in heaven where

01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:52.510
a third of the heavenly house get

01:22:53.170 --> 01:22:53.530
cast

01:22:54.730 --> 01:22:55.210
down

01:22:56.430 --> 01:22:56.910
um

01:22:57.670 --> 01:23:03.350
It's it it's it's quite fragmentary isn't it it's description of that if at all and you're saying it doesn't even happen

01:23:04.070 --> 01:23:07.130
Well, it's in it's in revelation chapter 12

01:23:07.630 --> 01:23:15.290
And it's about that time of the day of the lord a revelation 110 john says i was in the spirit on the day of the lord

01:23:16.230 --> 01:23:16.710
and

01:23:17.770 --> 01:23:22.970
So that's what revelation is all about that three and a half year period of the day of the lord

01:23:22.970 --> 01:23:27.010
And revelation 12 is an event in the time of that

01:23:27.530 --> 01:23:27.910
um

01:23:27.910 --> 01:23:33.610
Where it says war in heaven it means among the leaders

01:23:34.450 --> 01:23:40.370
Now, where do i get this from genesis 2 4 isiah 1 2 isiah 110

01:23:41.130 --> 01:23:44.610
revelation 12 itself the heavens and the earth

01:23:44.610 --> 01:23:49.210
Genesis 2 4 these are the generations of the heavens and the earth right

01:23:49.990 --> 01:23:50.670
generations

01:23:51.990 --> 01:23:53.350
sky and

01:23:54.350 --> 01:23:59.530
Clouds and plods of earth do not have children. It's talk talking about rulers

01:24:00.350 --> 01:24:01.390
and those ruled

01:24:02.210 --> 01:24:02.970
and this is

01:24:03.950 --> 01:24:05.410
excuse me

01:24:05.410 --> 01:24:11.890
emphasized in isiah 1 verse 2 here are heavens here are earth again clouds and

01:24:12.590 --> 01:24:17.470
Plods of earth don't have ears and then a few verses later verse 10

01:24:17.470 --> 01:24:18.650
Isiah

01:24:19.310 --> 01:24:20.750
Describes what he's talking about

01:24:21.870 --> 01:24:25.310
Rulers and those ruled so that's what heavens and earth means

01:24:26.080 --> 01:24:27.750
in revelation 12

01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:33.450
And this war in heaven it means war among the rulers

01:24:34.260 --> 01:24:36.190
War among the rulers

01:24:36.820 --> 01:24:39.750
And then where it says the serpent has

01:24:40.340 --> 01:24:43.350
Hulled down cast down this is biblical language

01:24:44.100 --> 01:24:45.670
in my translation

01:24:46.690 --> 01:24:48.710
These passages are footnoted

01:24:49.390 --> 01:24:56.630
The hull to the ground it's even talks about the word of god falling to the ground in one place in two kings

01:24:56.630 --> 01:24:57.430
I think it is

01:24:57.430 --> 01:24:59.890
and so I footnoted all these

01:25:00.710 --> 01:25:04.010
Hull to the ground we use it in english, you know that

01:25:04.010 --> 01:25:08.050
Derek is a cocky son. So he needs bringing down to earth

01:25:08.570 --> 01:25:14.610
He needs bringing down to the ground. It's used in english. Where did we get it from? It's a hebra

01:25:15.550 --> 01:25:22.910
Idiom and a greek idiom. That's where we got it from. Okay, and hull to the ground. It's used in isiah

01:25:23.490 --> 01:25:27.670
14 about the king of Babylon, you know, he was been a son of the morning

01:25:27.670 --> 01:25:30.450
So he was like the morning star had a great reputation

01:25:31.050 --> 01:25:34.890
But because of his pride, he was hulled to the ground and brought down

01:25:36.370 --> 01:25:37.410
okay, um

01:25:37.950 --> 01:25:43.710
So how has this actively changed your I mean I sort of asked this before but

01:25:44.610 --> 01:25:45.830
How's this shifted your

01:25:46.630 --> 01:25:50.570
The application of your faith and your your your christian practice

01:25:52.130 --> 01:25:55.890
Right now, yeah, this is perhaps the most relevant question

01:25:55.890 --> 01:26:03.170
I said earlier that the 1980s were a bit chaos for me because I still believed and trusted the church bibles

01:26:03.170 --> 01:26:07.990
And you know the word of man the word of flesh cannot save you

01:26:07.990 --> 01:26:11.070
As these bibles are a mixture of flesh and spirit

01:26:11.950 --> 01:26:18.050
And when I started finding out the truth, you know what the bible is really about. I mean this is

01:26:18.910 --> 01:26:19.950
30 years

01:26:19.950 --> 01:26:21.470
of daily

01:26:22.030 --> 01:26:23.310
intense study

01:26:23.310 --> 01:26:28.950
Getting up in the middle of the night to go down and check things. Oh, does it really say

01:26:29.570 --> 01:26:36.250
You know ice ton I own not in John 11 26. Does it really say this and yes? Yes, it does

01:26:36.250 --> 01:26:45.050
So this intense obsessive study for over 30 years, you know, you pick up biblical language

01:26:45.630 --> 01:26:46.370
and so

01:26:47.290 --> 01:26:50.490
When you're stripped of this mainstream

01:26:51.570 --> 01:26:51.930
religion

01:26:52.730 --> 01:26:54.650
You're left in the wilderness

01:26:54.650 --> 01:26:58.630
You cannot be part of the church system and the church bibles

01:26:58.630 --> 01:27:04.710
Because you want only one thing the word of god translated properly and then you're in the wilderness

01:27:05.270 --> 01:27:07.110
Well, that's when Moses found god

01:27:07.690 --> 01:27:11.150
And John the Baptist and Jesus and Paul and Elijah

01:27:11.810 --> 01:27:16.730
So if it's good enough for them, you know, god of the wilderness and the desert

01:27:18.210 --> 01:27:20.150
Pardon and the desert fathers

01:27:21.770 --> 01:27:25.310
All the all the all the all the monks they went into the desert

01:27:26.010 --> 01:27:26.990
Oh, well

01:27:27.530 --> 01:27:32.870
Did they what did they come back with you know, this is always the point I just

01:27:38.790 --> 01:27:40.310
and so I

01:27:40.990 --> 01:27:41.550
formulated

01:27:42.850 --> 01:27:45.190
targets and laws to

01:27:45.930 --> 01:27:51.270
What should I say test myself? I was walking down my drive. Oh, I don't know when

01:27:52.330 --> 01:27:57.310
Couple of decades ago. All right sparks. Why are you right about John 11 26?

01:27:58.030 --> 01:28:00.490
Now, how can I defend it? Well, it's grammar

01:28:01.170 --> 01:28:04.870
It's grammar. So all right, then I started

01:28:05.830 --> 01:28:11.830
To get a list of translating laws. So I've got grammar internal harmony

01:28:12.650 --> 01:28:13.110
logic

01:28:13.790 --> 01:28:15.430
research and text

01:28:15.970 --> 01:28:17.650
And then I thought all right

01:28:17.650 --> 01:28:24.950
What is the target of those accuracy clarity and literariness? So accuracy

01:28:25.570 --> 01:28:27.470
So it would translate back

01:28:28.010 --> 01:28:30.270
You know, it's grammatically correct then

01:28:31.370 --> 01:28:32.530
second clarity

01:28:33.370 --> 01:28:33.710
Well

01:28:34.410 --> 01:28:39.070
Exodus 38 verse 4 in the kjv is just that's a gobbledygook

01:28:39.070 --> 01:28:42.890
Adam Nickerson raises a passage in 2 Corinthians 6

01:28:43.550 --> 01:28:46.050
Be enlarged in your bowels or something

01:28:47.030 --> 01:28:49.610
It was straightened in your bowels

01:28:49.610 --> 01:28:54.850
And they wear gobbledygook. Yeah. So that's Nickerson and

01:28:55.750 --> 01:29:01.210
So clarity and so I had had this in my head, you know

01:29:01.210 --> 01:29:05.870
I want a young question to be able to understand this

01:29:06.330 --> 01:29:07.430
Make it clear

01:29:07.430 --> 01:29:11.510
Make it accurate and then my third translating target

01:29:12.090 --> 01:29:18.030
Literariness. So this means recovering idioms figures of speech word order

01:29:18.030 --> 01:29:25.790
And these have been lost in all the bibles. Yes, and in the kjv too. There are idioms that they just wipe out

01:29:27.050 --> 01:29:32.510
And word order that they just wipe out when you've got the proper word order. It's far more emotive

01:29:34.030 --> 01:29:34.450
and

01:29:35.110 --> 01:29:39.370
but in terms of how you live your life and

01:29:40.270 --> 01:29:46.170
What do you think it's going to happen to you? What do you think makes what do you think you need to do to be a Christian?

01:29:47.010 --> 01:29:48.190
Has that changed at all?

01:29:49.350 --> 01:29:52.410
Right. Well, it has to come from God

01:29:53.110 --> 01:29:54.690
You can't decide

01:29:55.210 --> 01:29:57.610
I want to be a Christian because you don't know what it is

01:29:57.610 --> 01:30:01.610
You can go to church and say your prayers and read a bible and think you're a Christian

01:30:02.150 --> 01:30:03.110
but when God

01:30:04.050 --> 01:30:05.670
breathes his spirit into you

01:30:06.250 --> 01:30:12.490
Then you really know what it is. So when it's happened to you, you know, but it's not something you can do

01:30:12.490 --> 01:30:14.330
It's something that God does

01:30:15.490 --> 01:30:16.310
and so

01:30:17.250 --> 01:30:19.290
Removing from me all these

01:30:19.290 --> 01:30:20.030
false

01:30:20.830 --> 01:30:27.550
Props of mainstream religion and throwing me onto a proper translation. So I live in a world

01:30:28.460 --> 01:30:36.190
An earth underneath a firmament with God beyond that with Christ sitting at his right hand and the angels

01:30:37.220 --> 01:30:42.310
And those who were raptured in AD 70 they are there and we are down here

01:30:42.310 --> 01:30:48.510
There are no woo woo demons and satans and lucifer and wobbly spirits

01:30:48.510 --> 01:30:50.910
There's just when you say that you say that

01:30:52.090 --> 01:30:53.310
ex-cathedra

01:30:55.310 --> 01:30:56.930
How do you know they're demons?

01:30:57.850 --> 01:31:01.770
I don't say ex-cathedra. I say in cathedra because

01:31:02.710 --> 01:31:03.390
I know

01:31:03.990 --> 01:31:04.310
that

01:31:05.150 --> 01:31:10.790
God created no such things because if he did they would be in the bible

01:31:10.790 --> 01:31:17.950
But of course people do say well satans in the bible. What about jove? I'm always getting this. What about jove?

01:31:17.950 --> 01:31:23.110
What about jove? Well jove chapter 16 describes jove's enemy. He's a human

01:31:24.170 --> 01:31:24.710
and

01:31:26.050 --> 01:31:29.370
Zah another word for enemy and an avil

01:31:30.670 --> 01:31:31.750
An ungodly

01:31:32.320 --> 01:31:39.030
Man, he's a bully and a thug and he's taken a dislike to jove. So as I say he's described in chapter 16

01:31:39.030 --> 01:31:43.750
So the word satan in jove one and two shall be written enemy lowercase

01:31:44.370 --> 01:31:47.350
There is no satan throughout the whole of the word of god

01:31:47.350 --> 01:31:54.570
Everywhere that word appears should be crossed out and above it right in lowercase enemy or adversary

01:31:54.570 --> 01:32:01.050
And and when when when jesus casts that evil spirits, what's he what's he casting out?

01:32:01.930 --> 01:32:02.910
Right now

01:32:02.910 --> 01:32:09.010
I've been promising for a long time to make a video about this but other things keep coming to the surface that I need to deal with

01:32:09.650 --> 01:32:11.750
That I have handwritten the script

01:32:12.290 --> 01:32:14.130
So it's a variety of things

01:32:14.970 --> 01:32:18.270
So it's possession in the mind

01:32:19.170 --> 01:32:21.490
strongholds of immorality

01:32:22.150 --> 01:32:26.930
strongholds of false teaching and sometimes it's a physical obstruction

01:32:27.450 --> 01:32:29.970
Such as causing deafness or muteness

01:32:30.450 --> 01:32:37.590
So it's a variety of things and in mark where it says has the phrase unclean spirits. These are the people

01:32:38.550 --> 01:32:41.810
Now the word spirit is often used for people

01:32:42.270 --> 01:32:47.910
And in case of the kingdom bible pabry is 12 9 by footnote all the passages

01:32:48.430 --> 01:32:50.390
Where spirit is put for people

01:32:51.070 --> 01:32:54.730
But you know some don't want this they want all these

01:32:54.730 --> 01:32:57.210
Willow stories and they're not true

01:32:58.210 --> 01:32:58.890
so

01:32:59.610 --> 01:33:00.290
um

01:33:00.950 --> 01:33:02.690
I suppose I've

01:33:03.110 --> 01:33:04.950
It was obvious question really

01:33:05.770 --> 01:33:06.450
um

01:33:07.270 --> 01:33:08.410
which is

01:33:09.710 --> 01:33:12.830
I read a life recently of

01:33:13.410 --> 01:33:15.530
George Herbert and

01:33:16.730 --> 01:33:17.530
the

01:33:19.550 --> 01:33:21.330
The priests in those days

01:33:22.230 --> 01:33:24.550
were incredibly well educated. I mean

01:33:25.050 --> 01:33:31.670
Herbert went to Westminster and was probably at about the age of 10 was probably where

01:33:31.670 --> 01:33:34.970
The most advanced oxbridge scholars are on their

01:33:35.530 --> 01:33:40.790
Greek course greek and latin and you know, he would he would have been fluent in greek latin and hebrew

01:33:41.470 --> 01:33:41.850
um

01:33:41.850 --> 01:33:49.870
Going back before then in in the early days when they were much closer to the time of of christ

01:33:50.810 --> 01:33:51.870
They would have been

01:33:52.810 --> 01:33:54.070
reading this stuff

01:33:54.070 --> 01:33:54.930
presumably

01:33:55.670 --> 01:33:56.310
in

01:33:56.950 --> 01:34:03.590
In the original greek, so they would they would have had access to that they would have been been imbibing it

01:34:04.230 --> 01:34:05.130
straight from the

01:34:05.750 --> 01:34:07.110
straight from the source

01:34:07.970 --> 01:34:08.570
um

01:34:08.570 --> 01:34:12.550
They would they would have known these the nuances that you're talking about now

01:34:12.550 --> 01:34:15.850
They would have been in no they wouldn't have had subsequent translations

01:34:16.670 --> 01:34:19.550
clouding the waters and muddying the issue

01:34:20.450 --> 01:34:20.750
so

01:34:23.150 --> 01:34:25.550
If they didn't

01:34:25.550 --> 01:34:28.670
See these things how come you're seeing them now?

01:34:29.590 --> 01:34:33.610
Well, why don't they get these traditions that are accumulating a complete rubbish?

01:34:33.910 --> 01:34:40.370
Why was it do you have to wait until the 21st century for you christopher putt sparks to to be

01:34:41.250 --> 01:34:43.290
The the the revealer

01:34:43.290 --> 01:34:49.690
Right. Well, I'm not the first George Herbert would have had these translations. I mean he was 17th century, wasn't he?

01:34:49.790 --> 01:34:51.330
Yeah, he had the translations

01:34:51.330 --> 01:34:54.870
But also dominant was the latin vulgate, which is

01:34:54.870 --> 01:34:56.970
You know another institution bible

01:34:58.050 --> 01:35:03.630
So they would have been trusting those and how many I mean did George Herbert go to the greek and

01:35:04.150 --> 01:35:08.310
The hebra manuscripts. I don't know. I've only read his power. I don't know

01:35:08.310 --> 01:35:14.110
But I was using him as a sort of a type of that of that period of the sort of the the scholar

01:35:14.550 --> 01:35:19.210
That somebody must have been reading the greek and somebody must have known then the stuff you're talking about

01:35:20.170 --> 01:35:21.250
Yes, yes

01:35:21.790 --> 01:35:26.430
I have a book called the protesters. I was trying to find it last night. It's um

01:35:26.990 --> 01:35:28.470
in the pile of books

01:35:29.110 --> 01:35:30.490
to my right here

01:35:32.250 --> 01:35:36.410
Piled up the wrong way to fit them all in as I can't find it at the moment

01:35:36.410 --> 01:35:40.850
But the protesters gives the history of some of these others who did know truths

01:35:41.890 --> 01:35:44.410
And so it hasn't all just

01:35:45.490 --> 01:35:45.970
Oh

01:35:47.870 --> 01:35:50.310
Maybe within the last 20 years or so

01:35:51.250 --> 01:35:56.210
I wish the protesters I'll have to pull out all my books from that shelf and

01:35:56.710 --> 01:36:01.290
And draw it up. But that's what it's called the protesters written by a woman whose name I forget

01:36:02.950 --> 01:36:06.470
But you see from the very beginning

01:36:07.250 --> 01:36:07.550
the

01:36:08.130 --> 01:36:08.470
forming

01:36:09.170 --> 01:36:14.190
That the church fathers, you know, they taught some pagan things like the immortal soul

01:36:14.850 --> 01:36:16.710
And then the roman church

01:36:17.370 --> 01:36:21.790
And then the protestant church. There was this religion of christianity

01:36:22.410 --> 01:36:23.610
And it's creeds

01:36:24.230 --> 01:36:31.550
So no ridley and kranmer. I think was wrote the 39 articles of the church of england. Well, it starts with this three god system

01:36:32.230 --> 01:36:33.630
So all these beliefs

01:36:34.730 --> 01:36:37.310
You know trinity satan

01:36:37.310 --> 01:36:42.170
Hell immortal soul all these things were so embedded in the culture and

01:36:43.070 --> 01:36:43.670
um

01:36:44.250 --> 01:36:47.330
You know, I read um, I've been reading recently

01:36:48.130 --> 01:36:52.090
I've read a book on van ek the dutch painter. I've read one on

01:36:52.610 --> 01:36:53.090
Titian

01:36:53.090 --> 01:36:57.070
And what was the other one caravaggio and rubens

01:36:57.590 --> 01:36:58.610
And no these

01:36:59.110 --> 01:37:04.970
Painters, I mean these are books i've had for a while except the caravaggio is new but the others had for a long time

01:37:04.970 --> 01:37:11.410
I'm rereading them and you see these paintings that they were commissioned to write it's upholding

01:37:11.410 --> 01:37:18.010
All the formal christianity, you know popes and fish hats and bishops in fish hats

01:37:18.690 --> 01:37:21.650
And feet off the ground halos over their head

01:37:21.650 --> 01:37:23.330
trinities in the heaven

01:37:24.050 --> 01:37:25.410
devils and little demons

01:37:26.130 --> 01:37:26.730
cherubim

01:37:27.320 --> 01:37:29.390
Little babies floating in the sky

01:37:29.860 --> 01:37:31.530
So the whole of the culture

01:37:31.980 --> 01:37:32.790
was drunk

01:37:33.520 --> 01:37:34.530
with this

01:37:35.320 --> 01:37:38.330
false religion and in isiah it's written truth

01:37:39.140 --> 01:37:40.290
stumbled in the street

01:37:40.930 --> 01:37:44.790
So the whole of the western world was so saturated with this

01:37:44.790 --> 01:37:50.930
Mixture this pagan religion mixed with christianity and this is

01:37:51.910 --> 01:37:56.230
Discomforting and destabilizing to many people but i'm afraid it's true

01:37:56.770 --> 01:38:00.590
Well, it is. I mean it's quite shocking because what you're kind of saying

01:38:00.590 --> 01:38:04.450
I mean, I don't want to put words into your mouth, but I mean it's it's not an unreasonable

01:38:05.830 --> 01:38:06.350
um

01:38:07.010 --> 01:38:07.530
inference

01:38:08.250 --> 01:38:09.210
Is that

01:38:10.530 --> 01:38:12.150
Pretty much everything

01:38:12.810 --> 01:38:14.010
in christianity

01:38:14.970 --> 01:38:16.070
since the original

01:38:17.670 --> 01:38:20.590
Bible the original greek and the original hebrew

01:38:21.430 --> 01:38:23.650
is just kind of

01:38:23.650 --> 01:38:25.350
Wu and pagan bollocks

01:38:26.850 --> 01:38:28.170
So all those

01:38:29.170 --> 01:38:32.730
Yeah, but but yeah, most of that. I mean we see you're you're you're

01:38:33.550 --> 01:38:33.850
I mean

01:38:34.830 --> 01:38:36.850
Is it your understanding that all those

01:38:37.530 --> 01:38:43.090
Monks who went out you sounded quite dismissive of them all the all the desert monks who went to live out in in caves in the desert

01:38:44.370 --> 01:38:46.150
contemplating stuff and and

01:38:46.770 --> 01:38:47.710
all the great

01:38:48.630 --> 01:38:50.690
thinkers on christianity or

01:38:51.090 --> 01:38:52.530
or gustin or

01:38:53.490 --> 01:38:55.370
whoever all the great thinkers

01:38:56.190 --> 01:38:57.350
they were all

01:38:58.470 --> 01:38:59.070
using

01:38:59.850 --> 01:39:01.710
false information to draw

01:39:02.490 --> 01:39:07.590
false conclusions and that they didn't guide us towards the light but but steered us away from it in some ways

01:39:08.370 --> 01:39:12.690
But well, I don't know about those monks, you know, the test is what did they come back with?

01:39:12.870 --> 01:39:13.470
What were they saying?

01:39:14.410 --> 01:39:16.930
But you know, it hasn't all they written out of the calia

01:39:17.630 --> 01:39:18.990
So you can read it

01:39:19.530 --> 01:39:23.110
They talk about demons quite a lot, which we say you'd be quite dismissive of that

01:39:24.390 --> 01:39:28.470
Yes, I don't believe that there are these living evil spirits

01:39:30.010 --> 01:39:30.730
I

01:39:30.730 --> 01:39:38.490
Don't believe it. I don't believe that's biblically that's the letter of james. He describes demonic as meaning that which is

01:39:40.390 --> 01:39:44.370
Natural and of the flesh flesh nature natural

01:39:46.410 --> 01:39:47.130
And

01:39:48.050 --> 01:39:48.770
so

01:39:49.670 --> 01:39:51.270
The story of the pigs

01:39:51.270 --> 01:39:55.630
You know the man in gas and ganasorette with the pigs

01:39:55.630 --> 01:39:59.170
Who says he's got a legion of demons in him?

01:39:59.330 --> 01:40:05.050
He does and yet people will believe that crazy madman who had to be shackled

01:40:05.830 --> 01:40:07.410
They get their doctrine from him

01:40:08.250 --> 01:40:11.030
Not from what jesus did and what jesus said

01:40:13.870 --> 01:40:14.430
Um

01:40:17.250 --> 01:40:20.750
I I'm gonna have to obviously i'm gonna have to get hold of your your bible

01:40:21.270 --> 01:40:22.030
I find

01:40:23.170 --> 01:40:24.230
what you say

01:40:25.130 --> 01:40:27.070
really interesting and

01:40:28.090 --> 01:40:28.890
seductive

01:40:28.890 --> 01:40:29.630
in

01:40:30.310 --> 01:40:31.110
some ways

01:40:32.010 --> 01:40:34.250
But I think you're wrong about demons

01:40:34.250 --> 01:40:36.690
I think you're totally wrong

01:40:37.990 --> 01:40:39.430
Well, where did they come from?

01:40:40.470 --> 01:40:41.950
Well, I don't know

01:40:42.670 --> 01:40:45.890
No, well exactly. Yes, that's the question

01:40:47.030 --> 01:40:47.430
and

01:40:47.930 --> 01:40:48.690
but so

01:40:49.110 --> 01:40:57.110
You know the book of revelation about mystery Babylon. This is Jerusalem in rebellion, which was destroyed in 80 70

01:40:57.710 --> 01:40:59.790
and ever since then we have had

01:41:01.610 --> 01:41:09.470
Influential men theologians and so on pushing themselves forward the influential the rich the wealthy

01:41:09.890 --> 01:41:14.850
And they created this religion and the church fathers again influential

01:41:15.870 --> 01:41:16.630
and

01:41:17.060 --> 01:41:24.470
So powerful men have created this and they've created a mixture of bible and pagan bible and Babylon

01:41:25.240 --> 01:41:27.550
So mystery Babylon has resurfaced

01:41:28.360 --> 01:41:33.190
But when the word of god is translated properly, you'll get in a different story

01:41:34.190 --> 01:41:37.310
So I was thinking about this actually because I've been

01:41:38.630 --> 01:41:40.870
As we've been talking I've been trying to

01:41:43.310 --> 01:41:48.250
Formulate a kind of an instant reaction an instant view of what you've been saying, which is which is really interesting

01:41:48.850 --> 01:41:49.290
but

01:41:51.210 --> 01:41:52.550
It seems to me that on

01:41:55.330 --> 01:41:58.390
Some level you're not that

01:42:00.650 --> 01:42:03.330
You don't really believe in the supernatural very much

01:42:06.030 --> 01:42:06.630
Only

01:42:06.630 --> 01:42:12.690
You're saved but but that's that's supernatural means above natural. Yes. I only believe

01:42:13.270 --> 01:42:16.310
In god and christ and the angels

01:42:16.870 --> 01:42:21.650
What about oh, you do believe in angels and and and do they do they appear on earth?

01:42:22.510 --> 01:42:25.450
Well, we don't know what they're doing because we're not told

01:42:28.110 --> 01:42:33.050
So all the people who came to have been visited by angels over the years

01:42:34.610 --> 01:42:37.310
Were they talking bollocks or do you believe them?

01:42:38.210 --> 01:42:38.410
well

01:42:40.290 --> 01:42:44.710
I wouldn't say that because I don't know their cases

01:42:45.530 --> 01:42:49.310
Uh, you know, I'd like to be james or any of them like to judge but

01:42:50.430 --> 01:42:55.110
Uh, do we need the appearance of angels? No, we've got the word of god

01:42:55.730 --> 01:42:59.490
Well, I don't know. I I find there's something kind of

01:42:59.490 --> 01:43:01.810
It's almost

01:43:03.570 --> 01:43:07.230
Sterile about about your your worldview. There's I mean

01:43:11.530 --> 01:43:17.610
You're very confident you've you've you've got you know, you talk about the moment when you were

01:43:18.810 --> 01:43:24.230
When you were filled with the when you were born again, yeah, yeah, but then then

01:43:28.190 --> 01:43:28.630
I

01:43:28.630 --> 01:43:30.050
Quite like the constant

01:43:31.150 --> 01:43:32.030
search for

01:43:32.590 --> 01:43:35.490
trying to live a godly life and and and and

01:43:36.050 --> 01:43:41.990
Seeking for signs of god, which he don't I mean it seems to me that he that that that faith is a living thing

01:43:41.990 --> 01:43:44.550
It's a living. It's it's an ongoing experience that

01:43:45.110 --> 01:43:50.070
God speaks to us. He gives us little signs to show. He's there. He has a sense of humor

01:43:50.070 --> 01:43:57.590
He I I feel him all around me and and speaking to me. I don't I don't I don't get that from you, but maybe i'm wrong

01:43:59.050 --> 01:44:01.710
Well, the words that I hear are the words of scripture

01:44:01.710 --> 01:44:06.230
Now sometimes I feel that god is saying something else to me

01:44:07.530 --> 01:44:14.170
That's not from the scripture, but you know, I'll be very careful how I rephrase that

01:44:14.170 --> 01:44:19.430
You know, I'm not going to go around saying god's told me to do this god's told me to do that

01:44:20.070 --> 01:44:22.330
People do that and then something goes wrong

01:44:22.850 --> 01:44:30.490
And you know god told me to marry such and such a woman somebody might say and then they get divorced

01:44:31.150 --> 01:44:33.950
And well, they weren't right were they?

01:44:35.070 --> 01:44:38.810
You know or something else perhaps that's not the best example

01:44:39.910 --> 01:44:47.630
But uh, you know, I'm conscious conscious of god's presence as you were saying yourself

01:44:47.630 --> 01:44:50.210
Yes, I'm very conscious of god's presence

01:44:51.250 --> 01:44:51.710
and

01:44:52.910 --> 01:44:56.050
I'm constantly he or mostly constantly

01:44:56.750 --> 01:45:01.870
Electrified about this truth of god and there's nothing more exciting

01:45:02.530 --> 01:45:08.090
And to have discovered his real truth and to translate the bible grammatically

01:45:09.090 --> 01:45:13.110
And I don't need all these other stories

01:45:13.870 --> 01:45:19.970
Of another supernatural you see the first commandment you shall have no other gods before me

01:45:20.790 --> 01:45:24.190
exodus 20 deuteronomy 5 no other gods

01:45:25.090 --> 01:45:33.730
What were the kings of israel constantly rebuked for by god's prophets turning aside to other gods?

01:45:34.050 --> 01:45:38.230
And to me, you know, there's satans demons trinity

01:45:39.030 --> 01:45:46.710
This is turning aside to other gods and it's forbidden and we shouldn't be doing it

01:45:46.710 --> 01:45:52.230
And it's not biblical. You know, they're not biblical truths. So this is sin

01:45:52.230 --> 01:45:57.190
Creating all this behind on a second. You're saying that when I'm looking for signs from god

01:45:57.190 --> 01:45:58.450
I'm basically

01:45:59.190 --> 01:46:04.710
Worshiping false idols. No, not if you're looking for signs from no, not if you're looking for signs from god

01:46:04.710 --> 01:46:08.150
No, that's that's fine. Well, that's who I'm asking that's who I'm asking for

01:46:08.970 --> 01:46:13.730
But no, what I'm saying is that this invention of satan and hell and

01:46:14.470 --> 01:46:15.770
Well, yeah, I tell you what

01:46:16.530 --> 01:46:20.190
The satanists are going to be after you or the lysoferians because they've been

01:46:20.770 --> 01:46:22.630
For thousands of years

01:46:23.350 --> 01:46:30.110
They've been busily sacrificing children to their dark overlords to apparently no end whatsoever

01:46:31.190 --> 01:46:36.750
Yes, and some of the Israelites did this and they sacrificed horses as well

01:46:36.750 --> 01:46:39.630
And they've made their sons pass through the fire

01:46:40.470 --> 01:46:42.030
So children on horses

01:46:43.610 --> 01:46:45.110
What they put the children on the horses

01:46:45.850 --> 01:46:48.170
No, no, the horse a separate sacrifice

01:46:48.890 --> 01:46:52.570
And this is in the bible. I don't agree with that. I don't remember that scene

01:46:53.150 --> 01:46:55.810
Oh, it's in two kings sacrificing horses

01:46:56.390 --> 01:46:56.870
really

01:46:57.610 --> 01:47:01.390
Bastants yeah and making their children their sons pass through fire

01:47:02.450 --> 01:47:05.230
And so that's all goes on by the way

01:47:05.870 --> 01:47:06.630
Oh, I know

01:47:07.250 --> 01:47:08.470
Yeah, of course it does

01:47:08.470 --> 01:47:11.790
Yeah, this is wicked

01:47:12.710 --> 01:47:13.110
um

01:47:13.870 --> 01:47:15.990
I was going to um

01:47:16.610 --> 01:47:19.990
Sorry, my wife just brought me some tea and I was going to ask you an important before we go

01:47:19.990 --> 01:47:22.830
I was going to ask you something that came to me. Um

01:47:26.210 --> 01:47:26.610
Yeah

01:47:27.490 --> 01:47:33.390
Where oh you've got some tea as well. Hmm. Is that you you've managed to there must be cold by now

01:47:34.010 --> 01:47:34.710
Yes, it is

01:47:35.230 --> 01:47:36.250
It's green tea

01:47:37.070 --> 01:47:39.110
I love green tea after my lunch

01:47:39.790 --> 01:47:46.070
I don't drink coffee in the afternoon the hungarians say of coffee. It's medicine in the morning poison in the afternoon

01:47:46.590 --> 01:47:48.930
That's that's good old hungarians. They're right

01:47:49.750 --> 01:47:51.490
Now say it in hungarian

01:47:52.270 --> 01:47:53.490
Oh, no, I can't do that

01:47:54.790 --> 01:47:55.990
I could make something

01:47:56.890 --> 01:47:58.830
You might not know the difference

01:47:59.790 --> 01:48:05.370
Even the hungarians even the hungarians can't speak hungarian. It's so hard. Well, so um

01:48:06.390 --> 01:48:08.370
What um, yeah

01:48:09.230 --> 01:48:10.650
Where are your miracles?

01:48:11.750 --> 01:48:13.430
They're created by god

01:48:13.950 --> 01:48:14.610
and christ

01:48:15.290 --> 01:48:16.350
Yeah, but but and

01:48:17.170 --> 01:48:18.630
Do they do they happen?

01:48:20.330 --> 01:48:21.010
Yes

01:48:22.030 --> 01:48:24.630
Yes, of course. Yes, they do

01:48:24.630 --> 01:48:27.810
Well, if you I'm glad you I'm glad you acknowledge that one

01:48:28.390 --> 01:48:34.270
I was going to I was getting worried that you were going to take all the fun out of of christianity. Oh, no 30 years ago

01:48:34.270 --> 01:48:36.950
I had an upset stomach. I don't know why

01:48:37.410 --> 01:48:43.850
But it was my stomach was just in agony. I must have eaten something that didn't agree with me

01:48:44.570 --> 01:48:48.170
and um, I got fed up with it and after you know

01:48:48.810 --> 01:48:53.410
Take back in those days. I didn't know about keeping off pharmaceuticals like I know now

01:48:53.910 --> 01:48:59.590
And um, so after four days of you know pharmaceutical pills not working

01:48:59.590 --> 01:49:02.950
I lay on the floor for half an hour and prayed and it went

01:49:06.770 --> 01:49:08.130
How long did you pray for

01:49:08.850 --> 01:49:12.910
So you sit up now 20 to 30 minutes something like that. Yes

01:49:13.490 --> 01:49:15.670
Yes, I believe in miracles. Yes

01:49:16.170 --> 01:49:20.710
That they don't happen as often as they did when jesus was around in the apostles

01:49:21.330 --> 01:49:21.750
because

01:49:22.210 --> 01:49:22.850
he was

01:49:23.490 --> 01:49:27.030
Anointed with power by the spirit of god to

01:49:27.750 --> 01:49:32.750
draw attention to his office as the messiah of israel

01:49:33.710 --> 01:49:36.610
And we are not given those same powers

01:49:36.610 --> 01:49:42.370
But some things still do happen which we have to say like a friend of mine was part

01:49:43.050 --> 01:49:49.630
At a traffic light and the you know, the lights were red and then they turned green and just for some reason

01:49:49.630 --> 01:49:51.730
She didn't take off straight away

01:49:52.350 --> 01:49:53.550
She doesn't know why

01:49:54.150 --> 01:50:00.810
And then a car came roaring past through the red lights the other way about 80 miles an hour and she'd have gone smack into him

01:50:01.690 --> 01:50:03.130
What held her back

01:50:06.070 --> 01:50:12.450
Yeah, I'd like to think so and we've all got many stories. I'll tell you something

01:50:13.150 --> 01:50:16.930
This is pretty amazing. You know, I don't look for signs

01:50:17.410 --> 01:50:23.370
I trust the word of god and I don't look for signs. I really don't but a few years ago

01:50:23.370 --> 01:50:28.450
I got a very nasty letter at the beginning of the lockdown

01:50:29.170 --> 01:50:29.630
2020

01:50:30.490 --> 01:50:32.590
in May or June, I got a

01:50:33.310 --> 01:50:34.490
really nasty

01:50:34.970 --> 01:50:35.970
typed letter

01:50:36.770 --> 01:50:42.950
From somebody say I love you. You foul some creature and I hate hate hate your friends

01:50:43.790 --> 01:50:45.850
37 pages written like that

01:50:47.010 --> 01:50:49.490
and then saying that

01:50:50.170 --> 01:50:51.570
He was going through

01:50:52.130 --> 01:50:53.750
This fellow whoever he was

01:50:53.750 --> 01:50:58.270
Was going to do this and that and threaten me to not publish any more books

01:50:58.790 --> 01:50:59.990
So I went for a walk

01:51:00.830 --> 01:51:06.330
I'm a South Dan Hills an area that is known as old Winchester Hill

01:51:07.330 --> 01:51:10.850
And I walked the afternoon and they're praying about this

01:51:11.570 --> 01:51:13.910
and at that time I was going to call my

01:51:14.430 --> 01:51:20.110
Translation I just come up with the title the keys of the kingdom bible then I get this threat

01:51:20.710 --> 01:51:22.070
That there'll be consequences

01:51:22.890 --> 01:51:24.370
and this nasty letter

01:51:25.890 --> 01:51:26.850
Not signed

01:51:27.650 --> 01:51:33.330
And so I go walk on the hills praying about this. I sit on the hill looking down over the sea

01:51:33.930 --> 01:51:38.130
Then it starts raining. So I walk back to my car in the car park

01:51:38.130 --> 01:51:41.330
Park next to my car is a car with a registration

01:51:42.870 --> 01:51:43.430
KTK

01:51:44.190 --> 01:51:45.770
No, sorry G4

01:51:46.350 --> 01:51:50.930
KTK and I looked at it and I read go for keys of the kingdom

01:51:56.090 --> 01:51:56.650
Well

01:51:57.710 --> 01:51:58.830
Pretty remarkable

01:51:59.490 --> 01:52:00.870
That's that that's a great story

01:52:00.870 --> 01:52:02.510
But you see the thing is

01:52:03.090 --> 01:52:07.270
Obviously that the guy was it was demons telling him to to write that

01:52:07.270 --> 01:52:11.710
That's the thing the reason he wrote it. It was because I said I didn't believe in satan

01:52:12.710 --> 01:52:17.470
Yeah, well, that's so the demons would would pissed off as they would be well now

01:52:17.470 --> 01:52:20.730
He was pissed off. You see you're letting him off the hook James

01:52:21.270 --> 01:52:22.530
He was pissed off

01:52:23.190 --> 01:52:25.110
And he wrote this nasty letter

01:52:25.890 --> 01:52:28.770
So we're never we're never going to agree on this Christopher

01:52:29.510 --> 01:52:29.970
I

01:52:30.630 --> 01:52:33.810
You might do when I make my video series on demons

01:52:34.430 --> 01:52:35.590
You might well do

01:52:36.310 --> 01:52:38.390
So, you know, never say never

01:52:38.390 --> 01:52:43.990
Out of my out of my cold dead hands when you take my demons away from me

01:52:45.250 --> 01:52:46.570
Why do you want them?

01:52:47.370 --> 01:52:52.690
because I just believe in the truth and it's very important to me and

01:52:54.310 --> 01:52:59.330
I I I just know too much about demons to for them not to be not to be real

01:53:00.790 --> 01:53:02.730
Well, you shouldn't

01:53:02.730 --> 01:53:08.150
You know, this is a distraction. Your mind should be focused on

01:53:08.150 --> 01:53:10.090
God and Christ and

01:53:10.530 --> 01:53:12.390
Your own mind and anything

01:53:12.390 --> 01:53:13.230
I think it is

01:53:13.230 --> 01:53:21.790
I think that's in you. That's not of God is from your heart. Jesus says Matthew 15 19 mark 7 15

01:53:21.790 --> 01:53:23.770
Romans 132

01:53:23.770 --> 01:53:26.810
The lusts of their own heart Paul says

01:53:27.930 --> 01:53:30.950
Well, I should be very interested to read your your um

01:53:32.250 --> 01:53:35.490
translations of the Psalms particularly just because I I I

01:53:36.050 --> 01:53:42.530
Obviously know them better than other bits. Um, yes, I love the Psalms by yourself. I absolutely love them

01:53:43.050 --> 01:53:45.010
They're the prayers we should be praying

01:53:45.590 --> 01:53:49.090
Well, I mean, they're the basis of all prayers aren't they all most prayers

01:53:49.950 --> 01:53:50.890
they seem to

01:53:51.870 --> 01:53:52.350
um

01:53:54.750 --> 01:54:00.050
Yes, I I had this very interesting thing the other day about about um

01:54:01.410 --> 01:54:02.530
praise Psalms

01:54:03.670 --> 01:54:04.230
um

01:54:05.290 --> 01:54:10.710
Which I won't give you I won't give the details because because you're just you're just you'll just think it's woo woo

01:54:11.290 --> 01:54:11.850
but

01:54:12.530 --> 01:54:14.450
What I will say to you is that

01:54:14.990 --> 01:54:15.290
God

01:54:16.070 --> 01:54:21.590
Definitely likes the praise Psalms. He does. He's just they make him happy

01:54:21.590 --> 01:54:23.330
He's not he

01:54:24.270 --> 01:54:31.190
The idea that God is just so far above this stuff that you like whatever, you know, he he actually

01:54:31.190 --> 01:54:33.830
Does like it when you sing the praise Psalms

01:54:35.030 --> 01:54:35.510
But

01:54:36.250 --> 01:54:42.030
So good you should say that because just this morning I wrote to a friend and I said ringing in my ears

01:54:42.550 --> 01:54:44.870
There's from the Psalms sing praises

01:54:45.890 --> 01:54:48.730
And I mean, this is throughout the Psalms and

01:54:49.270 --> 01:54:50.170
A friend of mine

01:54:50.870 --> 01:54:56.950
Write a book about this by worshiping in spirit and truth. She's a professional musician and

01:54:57.810 --> 01:55:02.090
Bible believer and worshiping in spirit and truth and she calls it the river of life

01:55:02.710 --> 01:55:03.610
I love that

01:55:04.930 --> 01:55:05.450
Yeah

01:55:06.250 --> 01:55:10.630
Yeah, rejoice in the Lord. Are you righteous for it become with wealth just to be thankful

01:55:11.290 --> 01:55:19.370
Um, very good. That's a good one. And I it's quite interesting because that that is the number that the enemy uses

01:55:20.070 --> 01:55:22.710
um, that particular psalm psalm 33

01:55:23.350 --> 01:55:26.670
And it's almost as though the whoever numbered the Psalms

01:55:26.670 --> 01:55:28.070
shows a particular

01:55:28.730 --> 01:55:30.690
a particularly good psalm

01:55:31.250 --> 01:55:31.550
to

01:55:32.210 --> 01:55:34.230
To throw it back in the enemy's face

01:55:35.810 --> 01:55:41.570
Um, anyway, um, Christopher, it's been an absolute pleasure

01:55:42.470 --> 01:55:46.310
Talking to you. Oh, I I just wanted to actually point out

01:55:47.150 --> 01:55:50.910
One other thing well rather compliment you on the point you made

01:55:51.570 --> 01:55:51.910
so

01:55:53.410 --> 01:55:54.090
um

01:55:55.110 --> 01:55:56.510
In your essay

01:55:57.290 --> 01:55:57.970
you

01:55:58.730 --> 01:56:02.710
You raise objections to a phrase from the king james bible

01:56:03.670 --> 01:56:04.670
Which i'd always

01:56:05.500 --> 01:56:06.430
thought as a

01:56:07.030 --> 01:56:09.110
as an absolute classic of

01:56:09.110 --> 01:56:10.370
of the kjv

01:56:11.120 --> 01:56:13.310
One of those wonderfully sonorous

01:56:13.910 --> 01:56:16.730
phrases in which the the translators

01:56:17.510 --> 01:56:17.930
specialized

01:56:18.970 --> 01:56:24.450
And you you didn't completely change my view on it, but you you did actually give me pause

01:56:25.080 --> 01:56:26.490
and the phrase is

01:56:27.200 --> 01:56:28.670
sufficient unto the day

01:56:29.240 --> 01:56:31.270
Is the evil thereof

01:56:32.250 --> 01:56:38.470
Um, as you know, it's from it's from the end of that Matthew six. Um, and

01:56:40.830 --> 01:56:42.970
You criticizes it as the kind of

01:56:43.490 --> 01:56:44.210
high-faluting

01:56:44.810 --> 01:56:45.690
sort of

01:56:46.350 --> 01:56:46.830
Latinate

01:56:48.090 --> 01:56:49.230
incomprehensible to the

01:56:49.230 --> 01:56:52.790
ordinary folk phrases in which these these scholars

01:56:53.630 --> 01:56:57.870
Which these scholars use to kind of distance distance us from the word of God

01:56:57.870 --> 01:57:00.950
Is that is that a fair summary of what your view on that line?

01:57:02.670 --> 01:57:09.050
Yes, I might be a little softer on that line out. Where did you read me you wrote an essay about it?

01:57:09.310 --> 01:57:13.170
You wrote and you mentioned that and I think where where did I publish that?

01:57:13.830 --> 01:57:19.850
On your website, I think I was it on my website, right? Yeah. Well, there are far worse phrases

01:57:20.690 --> 01:57:22.310
exodus 38 verse 4

01:57:23.190 --> 01:57:26.790
But no, um concerning that sufficient for the day

01:57:27.630 --> 01:57:33.190
What I like to do is try to reproduce the word order of the greek

01:57:33.690 --> 01:57:38.810
Yeah, that's what I like to do and on the kjv on the title page

01:57:38.810 --> 01:57:46.110
It has appointed to be read in churches in other words not by the playboy at home

01:57:46.110 --> 01:57:46.630
but

01:57:47.650 --> 01:57:52.930
Explained to you by other priests and bishops. Yeah. Yeah

01:57:53.470 --> 01:57:53.990
Hmm

01:57:55.270 --> 01:57:57.650
The reason I think that um

01:57:58.390 --> 01:58:00.870
I I still go both ways on that phrase I can

01:58:01.590 --> 01:58:05.910
When I first came upon that phrase, I did not know what it meant at all

01:58:05.910 --> 01:58:09.550
You've really got to work harder to understand

01:58:10.250 --> 01:58:11.270
That it means

01:58:12.150 --> 01:58:12.670
essentially

01:58:14.090 --> 01:58:19.610
There's enough bad stuff that goes on in one day without having to worry about the one about tomorrow

01:58:20.350 --> 01:58:20.870
um

01:58:23.430 --> 01:58:24.090
but

01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:29.270
Even though it's kind of all but incomprehensible at the same time I can see

01:58:30.210 --> 01:58:30.570
that

01:58:31.430 --> 01:58:33.990
to people who would have been familiar

01:58:34.770 --> 01:58:35.430
with

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say

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Horace's Odes as they probably would have been

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They were drawn towards the epigrammatic

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so

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I imagine that that those who who are familiar with the the great

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Latin authors like like Horace

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will

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Will be able to relish

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The condensed ideas in in in those epigrammatic latin phrases and we're trying to recapture that in

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English

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So I sort of I don't hate them for what they were trying to do

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And I think that that that is quite successful once you understand it, but at the same time it is kind of

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elitist

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Well, yes

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I'm trying to remember the name of the

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scholar

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The um, William Tyndale scholar

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Who died a few years ago? I was wanting to meet him and then he he went and died on me, but was he killed

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Pardon

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Was he killed by the enemy? No. No, he wasn't no

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No, he's recent. Uh, you know, I died a few years ago

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I just can't remember his name, but he raised this how

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No, so I came across it when I was first doing this translation

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that um

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Oh Daniel that was his surname

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Daniel with an ending in a double l David Daniel, perhaps

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um

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And he raised this about it being latin it

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and so

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not easy for

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Uneducated peoples. I mean, I'll give you a tiny example. Matthew 23 starts

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Then jesus said

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That's the order jesus said, but they put then sayeth jesus. So they put the verb sayeth before jesus. Why?

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The greek doesn't but that's just a tiny example

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um microcosm

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of what they've done

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but um

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but to me

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the the worst thing is their

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shipwrecking of all the major

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themes of the word of god and their persecution of christians

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um at the hand of the

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king

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and

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So no all their false teachings

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They have vaccinated into the word of god and so I would like to say to you

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The word of god has never been translated properly in the english language

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Well, that is a bold statement and i'm

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It's a very good way to end the podcast and people can be tell us christopher where we can

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Read the the best so far translation

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presumably it is in your view of

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the bible

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Yeah, well there are over 5 000 footnotes giving strong concordance references

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There are appendices as a preface

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and so

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I when I make a translation that's unexpected I lay it bare

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with

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footnotes

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And so everybody can go and check and a year and a half ago. I did a series of videos

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And um and I kept saying on the videos

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Please go away and check these and one woman was coming back saying I'm checking everything you're saying and you're right

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It's true what you say. So it's on my website keysofthekingdombible.com

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And then I've got a youtube channel keys of the kingdom holy bible

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good um well

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Thank you christopher and everyone else if you've enjoyed this podcast, which obviously you have because

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I mean what's not to like about my podcast? There's so much better than the competition

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um

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Do do please consider consider supporting me

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Um becoming a paid subscriber you can you can do that on on substack although I get so heavily limited

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Or you can support my sponsors. We should do that anyway, and you can or you can buy me a coffee

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Do you want to give me a treat? Yeah james? Let me buy you loads of coffees that still works. Um, thank you

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um and spread the word

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And thank you for your support. Um, yeah, thank you christopher again

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So thank you james. It's been a delight talking to you, and I hope we can talk again

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And perhaps even meet at one of those crazy festivals

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Yes, yes, yes stand in the light

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my first article in the light paper was the

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Word of god has never been translated properly in the English language. That was my first article for