Well, to the Delling Poll. With me, James Delling Poll.
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And welcome to the Delling Pod.
Dick.
Not special, yes.
I am fresh from a telling off from your host.
Because you know what I did?
I broke the golden rule.
I had a pre-conversation,
a pre-podcast conversation.
And I started to touch on subjects which might be a goldmine.
Yeah.
Laugh and bon mo.
You just came in with your giant digger
and sort of trashed all the seams
that I was going to get my little team of dwarves
to go and, you know, to mine properly with their beards
and their pickaxes and stuff.
As dwarves do.
Yeah.
They're doing the mines of Mordor.
Moria.
Right.
Yes.
What I was talking about was...
Speak, friend and enter.
What was it called?
Speak.
Speak, friend.
Speak, friend and enter.
Yeah.
Yes.
Anyway, sorry, Karen.
So what I was suggesting,
I pointed out the sound quality issues
on the recent guest, J.R. Sweet.
J.R. Sweet.
Now I don't know...
I was looking for the comments below
and I thought immediately everyone's going to say
do something about bloody sound.
But no, they will go,
what a fascinating interview.
And I was thinking,
had they not noticed that you have to turn
James's part right down
and then J.R. Sweet,
you have to turn up to full
just to hear what he's saying.
Okay, I get this,
but think about it.
You're listening to a podcast
about a guy who was trained
as an Illuminati assassin
after his earlier period as a child porn star
forced to do this by his family.
And then he witnessed
the most evil satanic ritual you can imagine
and he was hunted down
in a child hunting expedition,
which also included Paris Hilton.
You kind of see why people are going to be
focusing on the content rather than the...
Yeah, delivery.
I've seen you interrupt people
midstream saying,
can you do something about your sound
or your internet connection or whatever?
I try to.
I try and do my best.
Okay, look,
if people can help me,
I'm happy to do it.
You know, we've got a gardener now.
Right.
I mean, not every day, obviously.
Do you know what his name is?
Chant the gardener.
No, he's not called.
No, he's not.
Have another guess,
thinking about yourself more.
Is he called Dick?
Yes.
And I've told him we can't call him Dick
because it's too close to home.
Yeah.
So he's called... Guess what we call him?
Richard.
Yes.
Exactly.
So we call him Richard.
Some people call me.
So Richard came and he was listening
to one of my podcasts today,
and he said,
oh, you need to get yourself a camera.
And I said, yeah, Richard,
maybe I do,
but I hate that kind of thing.
And because I'll have to learn stuff to do,
to make it work.
Mm-hmm.
And I can't be doing that.
And he said, oh, he said,
no, you can probably do stuff like
you can use your iPhone as a camera.
And I said,
I'm not going to research how to do that.
He said, well,
well, couldn't you...
Now you're...
Now you've got downtime.
Couldn't you...
And I said,
no, I find it boring.
And he said, well, I don't find it boring.
I said, well, you do it then.
You do my research for me.
And tell me what to do.
And I'll do it.
And same with anyone listening to this.
Look, anyone can make my job,
make the podcast production better
without me having to...
I'm happy to write a check.
That's fine.
I just don't want anything that involves me
having to learn stuff.
What if the camera was just a simple matter
of plug it in
and it just takes over from your previous
embedded camera and your thing?
I mean, I'm sure that would be a start,
wouldn't it?
Do you know how much...
How impatient I am, Dick?
Yes, I do know how impatient you are.
I just want to give an indication of this.
I would even find the act of having to
put my iPhone on a tripod
on my desk.
Even that very act would drive me insane.
If you were a social media influencer,
you'd have one of those circular lights.
They all have those.
And the camera sits in the middle of
and things like that.
Do they?
Yeah, they're all fully equipped, these kids.
I mean, I'm happy to get a circle of lights
with a camera in the middle.
No, I don't think it works for the interview format.
I think it's more for a piece to camera.
But anyway...
I can do pieces to cameras.
Pieces to camera.
But I prefer the conversation format.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's what you're...
It's what I was born...
It's what God made me for.
Yes.
It's interesting.
That's falling off horses.
That is the case.
Yeah, falling off horses.
If God...
If God was still like making a...
Making a song, he said,
I shall now invent the peacock
with his fine tail feathers.
And I shall invent leviathan.
See leviathan in his ocean lair.
And I will make all this cool stuff in the world.
And man shall delight in my creation.
Now, let us create the characters, the individual characters.
I am going to make Alexander the Great.
And he will conquer many...
I can see where this is going.
Many nations.
I will invent Dick.
I will give him some splendid moustaches.
And then...
I need a podcaster.
I need somebody who does digressive conversations.
Who can that be?
I know.
Trigonometry.
Yes.
They all have great equipment.
And fantastic backgrounds.
I shall make the one that looks like something out of
a Gerry Anderson animation.
And I will make sure,
even though he is supposedly a comedian,
he will never say anything funny.
Why is God talking like this?
God is noisy.
Well, and I am going to make...
The one from the Ukrainian one,
I shall make him shill for Israel
and come up with all sorts of establishment bullshit.
And people shall hate him.
And great shall be the hate...
They shall hate him like Moloch and Baal.
Talking of godly language.
You know some time ago,
you gave me the Coverdale Salter.
Yes.
Okay, so...
And you were saying,
oh, you'll have great fun with that, Dick.
And for ages, it just sat on my shelf.
Now, I am just going to grab it now.
Dick.
Because it now lives in my icon corner,
which is just over there.
And so there it is.
That makes me happy.
Very simple cover.
And even got the tunes,
which I think is more pertinent to orthodoxy
than I would have ever thought.
But because when you're doing your prayers,
you're chanting them.
You're chanting out loud generally.
You generally have to chant your psalms.
But on the godly language bit,
Coverdale is slightly more challenging
than KJV, isn't it?
It's that one step further to more archaic language.
Like 50 years earlier.
And how many years?
About 50?
Right.
Early enough to notice a difference.
And sometimes it is the words that trip you up.
And I'm reading them out loud.
The way I do it,
I've got a morning prayer routine,
which looks like this, okay?
That bit is the creed.
But this bit is prayers including repeated Lord have mercies
and crossing yourself, various other things.
So you're chanting the whole thing.
Then you're saying the creed.
And then as part of morning prayers, it's a psalm.
Now I have been doing this.
I've been going,
right, today I'm going to go for something near the beginning.
So I will do that.
Okay, it's fallen on Psalm 10.
And I'll check it briefly to check it's not 40 pages.
And I haven't gone by 119 by mistake.
Psalm 10, two pages, it's a good one.
And I treat that as a way
if God may be being able to deliver me a message
in the form of the psalm.
Okay, I'm just looking at this word.
Whom God abhoreth.
I mean, you don't see abhoreth anymore, do you?
So you'll come to the words and you'll sort of,
when you're saying them out loud,
it's very different to just reading it to yourself.
So it's very good practice for the whole Biblical speak type thing.
And I have got to love the whole Coverdale language
and just the words being used.
Look up while you've got it there.
So I don't have to go and get my copy.
My copy, by the way, is I've used it so much.
Very dogged, I'd have thought.
It's dogged and the paper started to smell
as it does when you keep touching paper again and again and again.
Go to Psalm 104.
Yep.
And go to the end of it,
the last page of Psalm 104.
Gosh, it's a four-pager.
And read the bit about Leviathan.
I haven't encountered Leviathan.
It's about a third of the way down.
Oh, right.
So is the great and wide sea also,
where in are things creeping innumerable or like that?
We've always felt that about the sea, haven't we?
Swimming in it.
There are things creeping innumerable,
both small and great beasts.
There go the ships and there is that Leviathan
whom thou hast made to take his past time therein.
I love the fact that Leviathan is taking his past time therein.
Isn't it great?
He's just doing stuff.
He's doing Leviathan stuff.
Just go to, okay, go to the,
I think the second page is worth of it,
about the lions.
What, earlier on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Actually, no, no, it's the third page of,
it's at the bottom.
There's going wild goats.
It's got the store and it's darkness.
The lions roaring after their prey
do seek their meat from God.
The sun arises and they get them away together
and lay them down in their dens.
Man goeth forth to his work
and to his labor until the evening.
Oh Lord, how manifold are thy works, et cetera, et cetera.
I think Psalm 104 is one of the best ones
and it's interesting.
I'm saving up, when I was in Russia,
we went to this monastery
and I met Father Panteleimon,
who I think is the arbiter of this monastery
and I'm going to do,
I don't know how good his English is
but I'm going to do a Psalm with him
and I asked him which Psalm he wants to do
and I thought he'd said the different Psalm
but when I checked with him the other day,
he named this Psalm and I thought, yeah.
Which number did he give?
He gave a number that's one more than...
Exactly, or one less.
So I had to check with him what the Psalm was about
and I was thinking, you're a real Psalm connoisseur, aren't you?
Of course you would be.
I mean, you think if you're a monk you've been...
But I thought, good choice.
Good choice, Panteleimon.
I wanted to mention another thing to you about this.
So I'm also reading the philicalia.
You know what the philicalia is.
I don't know what the philicalia is.
The philicalia is when you become
sort of even more of an ortho-bro than you are already.
The philicalia is the kind of the teachings
of the Desert Fathers, I think,
from about the third century to about the eighth century.
So there are various...
There's philicalia I, philicalia II, III, IV, V.
The later editions are from later on
in the teachings of the Desert Fathers or whatever,
or other monks and things.
But this is the early...
The ones who went out to the desert to live in caves and things
and it's their wisdom and their teachings.
When I was at Father...
I mean, yeah, Abbott, Panteleimon's monastery,
we were having dinner with the bishop and stuff like that
and I was very conscious that the place was swarming
with bloody mosquitoes, like Russia is.
And I...
And this was in the non-mosquito season.
And I said to...
When you're asking us any questions you like after dinner,
I was like, well, what do you do about the mosquitoes?
And Father Panteleimon said that he didn't bother him.
And I was thinking, how can they not bother you
when you're in mosquito-central?
Anyway, I was reading through the philicalia
and the monk was talking about how to pray
and how to basically, when you're praying,
what state of mind you need to be in to pray?
You've got to be pure.
You can't allow yourself to be distracted.
You can't allow yourself to be too pleased with yourself.
One mistake is to have polluting thoughts
about food or sex or whatever.
But another polluting thought is to think that you're being too good
because that also is an error.
And then you've got all the demons taking advantage
of any...
Chink in your armour.
Any chink in your armour. The demons are right in there.
But if you get it right, the angels are there to take charge of you
and keep you in all your ways.
Anyway, on this list of about 150 rules for praying,
there was something like, do not get bothered by mosquitoes.
So...
I was lying in bed the other night.
And I...
Look what time of year it is.
We're talking...
It's not even March, is it? Or is it just gone March?
Just gone March.
But hardly mosquito time of year.
And I could hear this whining.
Or I thought I could hear this whining.
And I thought that mosquito, if it isn't mosquito,
could easily keep me awake all night.
And then I thought...
But if I were an orthodox monk in the desert,
or actually there wouldn't have been a distinction between orthodox
because they were just monks there.
Just monks.
If I had been the desert father,
how would I treat that mosquito?
And I thought, I know what I'm going to do.
I'm going to say, thank you God for providing this mosquito
to test me and to allow me to overcome this mosquito problem.
So I'm going to...
I prayed through it and I went to sleep.
Brilliant. That is so ortho.
Yeah.
You're better at the ortho thing than me.
And I know you're not going to necessarily make the leap
because you're happy enough with your quite excellent local churches.
And that's exactly the way it should be.
They need me.
But yeah, I agree.
I mean, look, I think I'm not of a mind
that I've got an awful lot to learn
from the current church of England as it is.
I mean, I've got stuff to learn from, I don't know,
Crownmer and from Miles Coverdale
and stuff, the people who sort of help make the church.
And I don't know, George Herbert and stuff.
But I don't think I'm really...
I'm not going to be thinking, oh, I wonder what Welbys take is on this.
I want...
Said no one ever.
I wonder what the New Archbishop, whatever her name is.
This is the woman, the woman priest.
Woman, Macwoman face.
I'm sure she's going to...
Probably I should learn to be more caring.
I don't know.
But I have got much to learn from Orthodox monks
and from Catholic gurus and things.
Well, I'm not that...
I suppose technically they're not called gurus.
But you know what I mean.
I know exactly what you mean.
And what was I saying?
Yeah, so I just...
This is why I'm interested.
Actually, Tanya has been very good at this.
I mean, Tanya is so fiercely intelligent and well-read.
Tanya Edwards, like honorary dig, female dig.
So she turns me on to all these different key texts.
And the filicalia is...
Although have you read the Way of the Pilgrim yet?
No, I've got such a long reading list to come to.
I was very grateful, though, for those two books
you gave me at our last podcast live event.
And I consumed them like drinking a long, cool drink.
It was just...
I didn't realise how quickly I was going to get through them.
But they're absolutely brilliant and have now been...
Well, I passed the one back to you, the Saint Paesios one.
Yes.
But the Russian one, I have lent to a really lovely young couple in my church
who bulked a bit at the expense of how much it would have cost
to get that book on Amazon.
But I've lent it to him and he's really, really happy with it.
And he's reporting back to me on the things that have really struck him as brilliant.
But yeah, you've done God's work there in passing those books to me.
So that was really good early reading.
And just in case our listeners are wondering,
that was Everyday Saints and other stories.
What is it? Everyday Saints and other stories?
Oh, I just call it Everyday Saints.
It's the Russian one, basically.
It's with the Russian Orthodox chaps.
What I've worked out is that when you get sort of more advanced
on your sort of Christian path,
that God gives you less obvious rewards.
Like, for example, he will allow you to have your, unfortunately,
he won't protect you from having your finger broken when you're hunting.
Have you found out to your cause?
I thought, God, come on.
I thought, I think you have my back.
God, what is this?
What is this?
But, but what he does do,
is he gives you the pleasure of hearing stories like that
of just helping people, of just doing good things
and virtue being its own reward and all that.
I mean, I get this from Michelle, for example,
who, Austria Michelle, who's, she says,
look, I've had some more people who've come to me via you
and I've helped them and their lives have been transformed
and they've been healed
and terrible things have happened to them
and now they're better or they're on the way.
And I say, well, that's you, Michelle.
It's not me.
She said, no, no, they wouldn't have come to me without you.
And I think, well, that's nice of you.
And I suppose it is.
It's absolutely true.
But you just take great joy in it.
It's not something that we would have necessarily
done 20 years ago.
It would be, no, that's nice, but actually.
No, we used to go around killing people.
But that's the old us.
Yeah, but we wouldn't have appreciated the ripple effect
and the ripple effect is tremendously underrated
unless you look for it.
It's a bit like knowing the difference between
a coincidence and God sending you a message.
And obviously there's rather more less of the one
and rather more of the other.
That's true.
I think the non-believers think it's all,
oh, it's just a coincidence.
And in fact, that's the phrase they've been given
by the Godless.
Oh, it's just a coincidence.
When can I tell you about my hospital experiences?
Let's launch into it now
and true interrupt ourselves style.
So you can see, Dick,
that I'm a very sorry sight.
Yes, I haven't shamed.
And I only learned about this yesterday.
Well, you're last to know, aren't you?
But we've got the podcast now.
You can learn now.
Yeah, we can all learn together.
So as you know,
I broke my finger
when I was hunting,
which is obviously going to be my last hunt this year
and possibly ever actually,
if they ban it.
And I did it on the next strap
or maybe on the reins.
The horse was a race horse
and I had no brakes
and he was pulling so hard that my finger broke
or something happened anyway.
Luckily I carried on hunting for two hours
because I could so arrange my finger there.
Did we cover the actual riding
and the braking in our last chat
or is that something we did last night?
Maybe we did.
Okay, so because that's the last I knew of it
and the assumption was that your finger would heal.
So I thought,
so I went into hospital and it looked at
and they said, oh, yes, well,
it might need a pin.
And I thought, I don't want to pin
because that will involve surgery
and I've already got enough metal in me
and I don't like having metal in me.
I wish I'd never had it put in.
And I said to them, well, is there any way round this?
And they said, well, let's take a view.
Let's have a look at it anyway.
So I had a look at the X-ray
and this is the consultant, not me.
I was already to have the pin put in reluctantly
and then another consultant
breezed past as they probably do in hospitals
and sort of glanced at my thing and said, ah, no,
he said that'll probably heal.
Put a splint on it and it'll be fine.
So I left it for three weeks or whatever,
four weeks and went in for my checkup
and like four weeks it should be starting to knit
and everything.
It should be like you're well on the way to recovery.
It takes six weeks normally.
I went in and the doctors said the thing
you don't want to hear.
They said, and they looked at the show me the X-ray.
This is the one before and this is you
and that was bad enough and this is you now
and I could see that the break had gone from
sort of there to there
and there was no joiny stuff.
It's best when your bones join up.
And I said, well, isn't that a bit worrying
because aren't the bones like isn't it
isn't it just a song about them all being connected?
Isn't it time sensitive?
And they said, well, yes, you did.
You really do need to sort of emergency
surgery.
That's never two words you want to hear together.
No, I know.
So they will try and get you into Mr.
So-and-so's clinic in two days time.
Oh, no.
It looks like the lists are all full.
We'll try and see if orthopedic have got anything.
I said, are they as good?
And they, oh, they're just as good.
But they hadn't got anything either.
So I was waiting anxiously.
And anyway, yesterday, I...
They told me to drive in.
I'm sorry.
They didn't tell me to drive in.
They told me to arrive there by 7.30 in the morning.
I suppose because of anesthetics and stuff.
And I was quite gung-ho about it all and quite blasé.
I thought, well, they've told me that I won't be able to drive home.
And I thought, I'll stop that because I'm going to be able to drive home.
I'm me.
I can drive home.
I'm not going to get the wife to have to come all the way to this hospital to take me home.
So they said, in the morning, this is a rare moment I lie.
They said, and who's coming to pick you up?
And I said, oh, my wife will come and pick me up.
I said, thinking, oh, gosh, no, I'm not going to do that.
And then the anesthetist comes to see me and he says,
are you going to have your finger frozen or your whole arm?
I said, I don't know.
I haven't seen the consultant.
And so the surgeon or whatever, they said, well, we'll wait and see.
And then he came and said, we're doing your arm.
We're going to block your arm, which means that they freeze the whole of your arm.
And he said, you're not going to be able to drive home.
I thought, yeah, OK, I'm not going to be able to drive home.
And then anyway, then I go into the, in my imagination, before this happened,
I thought it was going to be like me, a nurse and the surgeon with a, you know,
like in a room, just on a little table.
Exactly.
And there you are off you go.
No.
It was the full operating thing, the anesthetic beforehand.
And they, they, they went with a camera into the veins underneath my armpit.
And I suddenly went as they triggered some nerve cluster.
And my arm starting to hurt just thinking about it.
Anesthetic department.
There were five people, a team of five people in there, all looking around.
And I could only distract them myself by talking to them about conspiracy stuff.
They said, well, well, what do you do?
And I said, well, I do podcasts.
I do, I do conspiracy podcasts.
Oh, is it successful?
I said, well, it would be a lot more successful if my numbers weren't limited by the
powers that beeps.
They don't want this stuff getting out.
Oh, what's your favorite conspiracy?
Well, where do you want to start?
Say, well, what happened to Diana?
Well, she was murdered on the orders of the Duke of Edinburgh in the tunnels
because that was a Merovingian burial, Merovingian 2.
And what about Madeline McCann?
I said, well, there are two theories on Madeline McCann.
Either she didn't actually die and was just invented to push the whole child tracking
devices and general populist paranoia and stuff.
Or she was part of a sort of child sex abuse ring.
And how do I avoid paying my taxes?
Ah, yes, that's a really tricky one.
I know what you mean.
And this one of the anesthetists was completely awake or was on the,
I don't want to pay my council tax to be spent on pedophiles and missiles.
She was on that.
So they were, I didn't do why the NHS is evil.
But I'd done that earlier to the Cameroonian nurse in the waiting room.
I said, you know, I don't mind hospitals for breakages and things like this.
But I said, I really wouldn't.
If I had cancer, I said, I wouldn't come and sit in your cancer treatment place
and be injected by chemo.
And she said, oh, why not?
I said, because, well, let me tell you the history of Rockefeller medicine.
So I told her the history of Rockefeller medicine.
And I said, and the vaccines, I mean, they're death jabs.
You know that, don't you?
And she said, well, we had to take the vaccine.
She said, I didn't want to.
I said, yeah, well, that's exactly it.
You didn't, did you?
She said, no.
She said, they told us that we'd lose our jobs if we didn't take the vaccine.
And I was very upset about it.
This is a Cameroonian nurse.
She wasn't stupid.
And she complained about how her son had taken the vaccine to go traveling and stuff.
So it's quite interesting.
They have a sort of, they know what's going on.
But at the same time, they're part of the kill machine system.
Yeah, but you've got to have a little bit of sympathy for the fact that the way they were trained was to be bombarded with information,
all of which they had to take on board without questioning it.
They're not taught to question things, are they?
It's very weird being awake and going to, I mean, this is a very decent teaching hospital, by the way.
I'll tell you about that in a moment.
If you're awake and you go into one of these institutions, you have very mixed feelings.
On the one hand, I was really very impressed by the professionalism of the whole team looking after me.
And the nurses were great and the surgeon was great and the treatment was top-notch.
At the same time, you know that hospitals exist and TV propaganda like scrubs exist basically to feed fodder into the kill machine.
And they are part of the culling mechanism, very important part of the culling mechanism.
So it's weird being in this kind of channel house of cabal death,
while at the same time being somewhere which is actually going to save your ass, or in this case my fingertip,
because some stuff does work.
Yeah, but isn't that just like a sort of analogy for the life that we're all living anyway?
We're all living in enemy territory and we're in the middle of a war whether we acknowledge it or not.
And we're having to play by their rules to a certain extent.
But we're like resistance within occupied France.
It's not a life of living among people who have our best interests at heart,
or the system that wants to keep us alive.
So our lives are like that every day.
It's just that when you go into a hospital you're further into the belly of the beast.
Yes, so although the Germans are technically our enemy most of the time,
they can be useful to us if we want to steal their rifles, or their Bratwurst.
Or there might be a few of them that are sympathetic to the resistance.
They might provide us with passport, or there might be some fit German secretaries that we want to have affairs.
I don't know.
Yes, I'm just trying to go with you.
You never thought this one.
No.
So I then get into the operating area where my arm is.
It is so weird, Dick.
It is like having...
It's as if Burke and Heav have arrived and they've attached one of their corpses' arms to where my arm used to be.
And there's this sort of heavy thing that just...
And they put up this sheet over me so I can't see what's going on.
And I can hear their commentary.
And surgeons, I mean even with sort of minor operations like this,
they're kind of doing it on a wing and a prayer.
So they say, look, we might have to go in with a knife and really it'd be a bit messy.
But did they not go in with a knife?
No, they didn't.
What they did was, first of all, they squeezed the bone.
They put your hand underneath an x-ray and they manipulate the bone back into place.
And then they get a drill and they drill this titanium wire through the tip of your finger,
through the bone to...
Yeah, I know.
And you can hear this.
But you can't feel anything.
It could be happening to somebody else.
But you hear the commentary.
And yeah, exactly.
And the...
Global warming is a massive con.
There was no evidence whatsoever that man-made climate change is a problem
that is going to kill us, that we need to amend our lifestyle
in order to deal with it.
It's a non-existent problem.
But how do you explain this stuff to your normie friends?
Well, I've just brought out the revised edition of my 2012 classic book, Water Melons,
which captures the story of how some really nasty people decided to invent
the global warming scare in order to fleece you, to take away your freedoms,
to take away your land.
It's a shocking story.
I wrote it, as I say, in...
Well, 2011 actually, the first edition came out.
And it's a snapshot of a particular era.
The era when the people behind the climate change scan got caught red-handed,
tinkering with the data, torturing till it screamed
in a scandal that I helped christen Climategate.
So I give you the background to the sculled jugglery that went on
in these seats of learning where these supposed experts were informing us
that we've got to act now.
I rumbled their scan.
I then asked the question, OK, if it is a scan, who's doing this and why?
It's a good story.
I've kept the original book pretty much as is,
but I've written two new chapters, one at the beginning
and one at the end, explaining how it's even worse than we thought.
I think it still stands up.
I think it's a good read.
Obviously, I'm biased, but I'd recommend it.
You can buy it from JamesDellingPoll.co.uk forward slash shop.
You'll probably find that.
Just go to my website and look for it, JamesDellingPoll.co.uk.
And I hope it helps keep you informed
and gives you the material you need to bring round
and all those people who are still persuaded that,
oh, it's a disaster, we must amend our ways
and appease the gods, appease Mother Earth.
Every day, it's a scan.
An x-ray, and they manipulate the bone back into place
and then they get a drill and they drill this titanium wire
through the tip of your finger, through the bone to, yeah, I know.
And you can hear this.
But you can't feel anything.
It could be happening to somebody else.
But you hear the commentary.
And, yeah, exactly.
And it was clear to me that although I clearly had a top consultant,
he was training somebody else to do it.
And I was thinking, I don't want to train you.
But at the same time, A, it's a teaching hospital.
So that's what you get in teaching hospitals.
And B, and you only get the best.
But B, I was thinking, well, actually, they've got to learn somehow
and how are they going to learn if they're not doing it?
Very public spirited, aren't they?
Yeah, but I think we do kind of think that a bit.
A bit.
And anyway, luckily, the person who was being trained.
Was this like, you've done one of these before?
No. Do you want to have a go?
Yeah, why not?
What's the worst that could happen?
Yeah, exactly.
But the good thing was they didn't have to go in with a knife.
And...
Oh, there was a point where...
Oh, the worst bit, actually, was where the anaesthetics,
because they have a cannula in your other arm.
So that they can, if anything goes wrong,
or they can pump, you know,
and block you out straight away.
Pumping through the knee straight away, exactly.
Get the medazolam.
Medazolam.
Quickly, nurse.
What medazolam?
They didn't say that.
Oh, I think you need ventilating.
Words you don't want to hear.
And they said, by the way, we've just put in
three years worth of COVID shots,
because we noticed from your notes.
We noticed it was very lacking on your notes.
We've given you all three varieties
just to cover up all the patients.
Yeah, the micron, they...
Is that all right?
Oh, do you not see that was what...
That formulae sign, the consent formulae.
No, they did put in some antibiotics,
which I was not happy with.
And I tried to resist.
I said, oh, no, I don't want those, thanks.
And the surgeon said, you jolly well are,
because we don't want you to get sepsis.
Oh, right.
And I was thinking...
Oh, we're doctor now, are we?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And the thing is when you're in that situation,
when you're kind of on an operating table
and you've got all this team around you,
you're much more vulnerable to suggestions
and things than you are.
Well, you're outnumbered for a start, aren't you?
I was heavily outnumbered.
They were asking me questions about horses
and about the cost of hiring horses.
I didn't tell them I was actually done it.
I didn't tell them the exact circumstances in which...
Foxes weren't mentioned.
No, I just thought...
Best not to.
Somebody, some complete twat of it.
I did a podcast with Germ Warfare the other day.
Yeah.
And I think we were talking about hunting and stuff.
And Germ was asking me about it.
And there was some creature on Facebook saying,
how can you participate in this...
How can you talk so favourably about this barbaric sport?
Or barbaric blood sport, whatever.
I am not going to listen to either of your podcasts ever again.
And I was thinking,
Madam, I would like to refer you to my article,
The world is run by Satanists
and you're worried about fox hunting.
Actually, I don't get annoyed by idiots much
because if you did that, you'd get annoyed all the time.
But for anyone who claims to be awake,
anyone who knows what's going on in the world,
the world is run by Satanists
who sacrifice children to Satan literally
and drink their blood and harvest their adrenochrome
and cause wars that result in the deaths of millions of people
because it's past their business model.
And you're thinking,
yeah, but my job is to make sure
that people who live in the country
can't enjoy a pursuit
that is a combination of controlling a pest
in the kindest way,
better than shooting them all, which is alternative,
and which binds communities
and which provides money to people
and gives pleasure to people.
Not bloodlust pleasure,
but just the joy of being outdoors
and the joy of wearing nice clothes
and the joy of doing exciting dangerous things on horses
and the joy of working with hounds
and working with animals.
And you're sitting there thinking,
I want to stop this
because I don't know anything about it
and it makes me angry
and it's far, far worse
than Satan is running the world.
No, it's not, madam, miss,
whatever you are,
whatever gender you decided you are,
it really isn't.
Anyway, that made me cross.
People do get animated about...
Yeah, seriously.
I suppose the other thing is,
I'm thinking,
I'm not listening to reasoned argument there.
What I'm listening to is somebody who's been programmed
by the animal rights lobby,
which in turn was programmed and funded by Satanists.
That's the thing.
The Satanists fund the animal rights lobby
and you're thinking that you're being autonomous here
and that these thoughts you've reached yourself
and because you care about,
you don't know anything about it
and yet you are judging.
Yeah, so there.
Anyway, so I've been...
It's horrible having a cast on.
It's horrible.
So hang on, finish up there.
How did you get home in the end?
Did you get collected?
Well, there was no way I was going to drive home.
It was absolute...
What have we got?
Does Jason have one arm?
No.
He was just paraplegic, isn't he?
Yeah.
Yeah, apparently that's the one.
Just paraplegic, yeah.
Yeah.
I have great respect to people with physical disabilities
who are yet able to operate cars and things.
Because I tell you, you need both arms.
In a normal car, you need both arms, really.
So there was a complicated swapping of cars
and towing and throwing after that, then, presumably.
And then I tried to sleep last night,
avoiding painkillers, because I don't like...
You were straight out of hospital.
You weren't overnight or...
No, no, no, straight out of hospital.
So I came home.
She got driven by my wife.
I don't like ibuprofen, because it...
So it produces all these kind of gastric juices, I find.
It makes you all sort of feel horrible.
And...
Paracetamol damages your liver, doesn't it?
So I was thinking, I know, I'm going to try and...
I'm going to try and tough it out.
Tuck it out.
I did try and tuck it out.
And I...
Went to sleep fine,
but then I got woken up by a nightmare
in which my hand was burning with pain.
And I woke up to find it was, indeed, burning with pain.
Right.
And...
Because it was starting to come back with feeling.
Yeah.
And I tell you what it...
Yeah, exactly.
I tell you what it feels like.
It feels exactly as you would expect it to feel
if someone were to drive a titanium wire.
Wire through the tip of your finger.
To the beginning of the next joint.
That's how it feels.
And it's there all the time.
And...
But it's no worse than that.
It is just as bad as that, but no worse.
And you've got a metal hook protruding from the end of your finger.
Yes.
There's a hook.
I can always show you.
If I...
Oh!
That's the shittest Abu Hamza I've ever seen.
It's shit.
You need to have a finger attached to it.
Oh!
I can't see any finger now.
I've only got your word that's coming out of the tip of your finger.
It is.
Oh, shit!
I'm pound shop Abu Hamza.
Credit to Ivo for that joke.
Of course, he put it on the family group chat.
I think...
A picture of a forementioned cleric.
Ivo is shit at most things,
but one thing he's good at is just taking the piss.
It's all he does, though.
It's a full-time job for him.
It's all he does.
Every single conversation.
He's like a monstrous version of you.
Yeah.
He is.
I'm Frankenstein, and he's my monster.
Yeah, and be careful what you wish for,
because you've got the sun that you would have designed on paper.
You'd have written down something like,
just like me, but even funnier.
And there he is.
Well, he's the reason that I'm doing this.
I'm trying to learn Russian again.
I mean, I tried on Duolingo and gave up,
because it's so hard.
And those letters, I mean, they're a real pain,
and they do things like they have lots of vowels together.
It's very hard for us to get used to that.
No, lots of consonants together.
I was going to say, it wouldn't be as bad as having lots of consonants together.
No, loads and loads of consonants that you have to grapple with.
And yet, there's this sort of noises that we,
sounds that we don't really make.
Oh, the rolling of the rolled R, which I've never been able to do.
Yeah, I've never been able to do that.
Never been able to roll an R.
Having had a mild list for my life,
I'm kind of like, forget about it
when it comes to actually rolling an R.
So, almost the anti-lisp.
So, you think, okay, but I can deal with this.
I can somehow manage the roll,
all the consonants and the rolled R's and the weird alphabet.
And you think, I'll get past.
And then you discover how heavily inflicted Russian is.
I mean, the grammar is, I thought German was bad.
It's just...
What do you mean by how heavily inflicted?
Well, it's got masculine...
It's like Latin, it's got masculine feminine neuter
and it's the adjective endings change
according to what gender it is and...
There's even...
There's different types of words for and
depending on the kind of connection that is being made.
They're always complicated.
And you think, hang on a second.
I love Russia and I love the Russians
and their literature, what I've read in translation.
But, surely this language, which was basically a peasant language
until it was sort of discovered by the aristocracy
in the 19th century.
Before that, they all spoke French.
But this language, why is it so complicated?
Why?
Dostoevsky was writing in the same Russian that you were...
In Russian Polish.
Did he?
What?
Don't do that to me.
Yeah, he read in Russian.
Yeah, well that's the thing.
I mean, they'd all been brought up by their nannies
who were probably English
and their parents spoke to them in French
and then suddenly they discovered the Russian language
and they created all this great literature.
They were quite an achievement.
Right, yeah.
Blimey.
Have you thought of doing Ancient Greek instead?
I have.
Don't think I have not.
One of the things I've been struck by
is how much I want to learn.
Ancient Greek, obviously, to read the New Testament
in, you know, final, yeah.
And the Septuagint.
And Italian to speak in Italy
and Spanish to speak in Spain.
Yeah, you know what?
We need our time all over again.
Yes, we do.
There's so many things I do differently.
I know every old person gets to this stage
where you realise that you've wasted certain aspects of your life.
And for me, it won't be that I didn't have enough sex.
I think it's going to be that I've wasted my time
of learning by only reluctantly learning.
I mean, even my art college days,
I thought I was getting a lot from it.
But I saw the other day someone on Substack
had put something about this young iconographer
who studied under Aidan Hart.
And his stuff is beautiful and brilliant
and he doesn't just do writing of icons.
He does stone carving and wood carving
and all of the stuff that Aidan does.
And he studied, I think, at the Royal College.
And I'm thinking if I'd already got into
the whole God thing at an earlier age,
I'd have flung myself into my five years of university
with a foundation degree and MA.
I'd have wanted to get into iconography then.
I'd have had a real purpose.
I'd have had drive.
I'd have wanted to use all of those years
to actually learn rather than just treating them
as a great time to drink coffees in cafes,
look moody, wear different hats and shag women.
It's kind of like...
Not that that was wasted time,
but I could have used my time so much better.
And now I could be the country's leading iconographer
and stone carver and all sorts.
Just imagine if God was suddenly to intervene now
and say, I shall give you your wish, Dick.
I shall take away all those shags.
As if they have never been.
See how much better you feel.
It is true.
I'm not sitting here thinking
if only I'd had more...
Actually, I don't know about that.
I don't know whether I'm necessarily thinking that.
It's not the overriding regret.
It's not the overriding thing.
I do wish that I'd learned more languages earlier
and travelled more,
because I think you need to be able to get to practice that.
I wish I'd spent time living in Russia.
I wouldn't have minded time somewhere in the Arab world
learning Arabic, say.
All of these things.
I would love to have a musical skill,
to have carried on with the piano or something,
to be able to sing.
I'd have taken up bell ringing earlier.
I've joined a choir.
Have you?
What are you?
A bass.
Are you?
And I want to be doing the chanting in the services.
That's kind of late fulfilment of a long-standing ambition,
because of course I was in the school choir prep school.
Do you have to go to choir practice or what?
Yeah.
I think there is only once a month,
and it's after divine liturgy.
No, after typica.
The service that we do without a priest.
It's difficult because you're supposed to be able to read music to do it.
And of course you've got the four different parts.
And the poor choir mistress is trying to get everyone to do their particular part.
And I can't sight read singing.
No.
It's going to be difficult to do.
So what I've actually done is I've worked out what it is on my bass guitar.
I've brought the sheet music home and I've worked out what it is.
So I'll be able to play it on my bass and then learn it and sing it.
A bit of a convoluted way.
But there's a particular hymn that we do,
and for us hymns sound like chants.
And when it works, it's going to be beautiful.
And it's quite easy.
But that whole singing in parts, in harmony,
is I think what makes orthodox music so appealing.
It's a goosebumps time.
The hairs on the back of your arms are standing out.
Have you thought?
Beautiful.
But possibly having a few singing lessons.
Because that would help you with reading the music, maybe.
Possibly.
But I think I'd rather stick with being in the choir
and kind of learning stuff from memory.
There's things I'd rather be doing with my time.
Yes.
I just think that it would give employer to a singing teacher.
But do you know what I mean?
I think worthwhile skills are...
Yeah, I agree.
Paying for.
Yeah.
I mean, I can sort of read music.
You can look at a note and work out what it is.
And don't forget, I'll be reading off the bass clef.
So it's not every good bird does fly.
No, it's F-A-C-E.
Isn't it?
Yeah.
Oh, is it?
No, it's not.
No, it's the other one.
F-A-C-E is also.
F-A-C-E, and every good bird does fly.
Or every good boy deserves food.
But it's slightly different.
Great big dogs eat grass.
Is it?
Yeah.
I think so.
All cows eat grass.
All cows eat grass?
Yeah.
Why would great big dogs eat grass?
They wouldn't.
All cows eat grass.
But interestingly, they're all technically notes, aren't they?
It's not like you've gone with a letter K or something.
See, I'm no fool.
Great big dogs.
Great big dogs eat grass.
They don't eat grass.
I have been reading Bruce Robinson's book on Jack the Ripper.
All right.
Called They All Love.
You know Bruce, don't you?
They all love Jack.
Yeah, I do.
Well, I mean, I say know him.
I mean, I hung out with him once.
Well, I went to his house in Herefordshire many, many years ago.
Herefordshire?
Whereabouts was he?
Can't remember.
Somewhere.
Right.
Remote.
Well, Herefordshire is.
I think it was.
Hereford is remote.
I think it, I think when...
With Nell and I was...
With Nell and I was re-released or something.
Well, there was some sort of anniversary.
In fact, it was.
It was the anniversary edition of the screenplay.
Oh, and it came out as a special edition book.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And so I went to see him.
But anyway, he's written...
It's a big, big book.
Boy discovered it for me.
And it's like 800 or 900 pages.
And he does go on a bit.
I mean, he has become totally obsessed.
But what I did learn was that...
I had John Hamer on the pod talking about Jack the Ripper.
And he told me what he'd read from another author
who claimed that, yes, it was a bunch of freemasons
from the Royal Lodge who'd assassinated a series of women
because to hide the fact that the Duke of whatever,
the King's son, had impregnated this woman
and this couldn't be allowed, you know, the bastard child
and something to do with Walter Sickert, the painter.
Anyway, it's clear reading Robinson's account
that this is not the case.
This was just under...
What you realise is that the reason
that there are so many conflicting stories about Jack the Ripper
is because they don't want you to know the truth.
And the reason they don't want you to know the truth
is that it was committed by a freemason
and covered up by freemasons
because the police were all...
All the senior police were freemasons in those days,
probably still are, and the man who did it
was a freemason in the Royal Lodge.
And his name was Michael Maybrick.
And he was...
This is extraordinary.
He was the most successful singer-songwriter of the era.
He was bigger than Gilbert and Sullivan
and he made an absolute fortune.
I mean, the sheet music from his songs
enabled him to have a string of properties.
Fantastic.
It was all about the sheet music back then, wasn't it?
Obviously, you couldn't buy records.
He was also a concert singer.
He was also in the Artist's Rifles,
which was this sort of fancy regiment
for composers or musicians, painters.
I thought the Artist's Rifles was formed in the First World War.
The Artist's Rifles later became the Territorial SS, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
21...
21 SS, I think, became the Artist's Rifles.
But at the time,
it was just a kind of boutique...
boutique military unit for artsy, for artsy types.
I mean, Alma Tudema was one of them.
All the painters of that era, you name them,
they were all in this particular unit
with its fancy clubhouse and stuff.
Was it an actual army unit?
Or was it like a militia?
Well, the volunteer regiments were quite a thing, yeah.
Like yeomans.
I don't know whether they saw any action.
We can maybe have a look.
You can Google it now.
What year was it all?
1880s.
Right.
You got your...
Yeah.
It immediately comes up when you do Artist's Rifles.
It says 21 SS reserve.
But it was...
Can you not tell you about the history of it?
Yeah.
2nd of November 2019 marked the 30th anniversary.
No.
I'm just saying it's the anniversary there.
Right, it's got a picture of them in 1860...
No.
In 1884.
And they're in...
They're all in grey with policeman-style helmets.
All right.
Is it named who the commanding officer is?
Officer commanding.
The Artist's Rifles Regiment was formed in 1859
by art student Edward Starling.
Interesting, Starling Sterling.
Starling.
It was a volunteer regiment and formed out
of the widespread fear of a French invasion.
Many of those who joined were artists,
actors, musicians and architects.
And his first headquarters was located
at Burlington House.
Its first commanders were the painters
Henry Wyndham, Phillips and Frederick Layton.
There you go.
Creativity and beauty were at the core
of the Artist's Rifles.
This may seem an odd combination for an army regiment,
but one can see both qualities
even in the regimental cap badge.
Which this shows is very fancy.
Yeah, a good rabbit hole there.
Yeah, interesting.
So this guy...
He could want to re-enact.
He was gay, probably.
Hence the kind of misogyny
and the killings,
the horrible things that he did to his victim.
But he killed them in
Masonic ritual style.
And the Masonic code at the time
probably still is, I don't know.
Probably certainly, I've thought at the higher degrees,
is that
even if one of your brothers
is a murderer
or a guilty of treason,
your duty is to him as a Mason.
You can't...
You can't betray him.
So there was the...
There was the ripper,
aka Maybrick,
killing all these women in horrible fashions
and sending these taunting letters
with these Masonic clues,
free Masonic clues in the...
All these kind of codes and stuff.
There was...
There was one of the early killings
he painted on the walls.
The word...
Some slogan with the word Jews in it.
But Jews was spelt
J-U-W-E-S.
And this was...
The police pretended that this was a...
He was illiterate. He couldn't spell Jews properly.
But it wasn't that. It was a...
It was a reference to
three characters from
Masonic folklore.
Something like Jubilo, Jubilee and Jubilar
or something.
Who were these three characters.
And...
So the way he cut the women up
were sort of like
a real-life enactment
of Masonic threats and rituals and things.
And
the police,
the guy in charge,
felt on a bound
as a Mason not to be able to...
Not to follow these leads
successfully.
So any other
red herring was encouraged.
Yeah, exactly.
So a lot of the people he've written about
the field of ripporology
is full of free Masons
covering up for their bros.
Right.
Interesting.
Yeah. Say well out of it, Dick.
Hmm.
So, um...
Is this book out now?
It came out a while ago.
It's very interesting
how quickly books die.
Um...
There's a...
There's a quarterly magazine
I get called Slightly Foxed
which just consists
of these delightful essays written by
book lovers of
books that they've
enjoyed from the past.
Um...
And so many of them are out of print.
Even books from the 90s
say that were
probably quite well reviewed at the time,
but they just disappear.
The book trade is designed to push
stuff in volume.
Well, to push stuff I think
that
serves a particular agenda
often, I think.
I mean, things like...
Well, they're going to be doing
surely books are almost something that they will regret
because
once you've got a book, that's it.
The facts, or as they're laid down at the time
are there with you. So you buy the books
and they're there forever.
No. They can't change them.
That is the interesting thing.
They are very, very good at...
I mean
the Illuminati and Illuminati
adjacent people.
They've got the second...
They're very interested in the second-hand book trade.
I mean, they've got all the...
They make sure that all the occult books
are either, you know, not available to the public
and they get them for their own private collections
or they destroy them.
And they destroy books that give information
about the true information about the past.
So gradually all the
accurate guides to what happened
in the past are taken away
from us and you've got to track it down.
The antiquarian book dealing.
And I found this through my
reading of
the Phil Rickman books that I like.
You know, the ones about Merrily Watkins,
the priest.
There's one set in the world
of
book dealership.
And nearly all these antiquarian books, it seems,
they
survive, not on the day-to-day people
coming by and buying an old book on
flowers or
an out-of-print first edition
of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
or something like that.
It's nearly all on the occulty type ones
which they keep in the back rooms
which fall into their hands
and, you know, the big money
changes hands
with things like that.
They're specialist books
that they come across that they know the market for.
So the
dusty old sort of black books
TV show style
bookshop
is probably just a front for
what's really going on in the background
because if you've taken over someone's estate
and you find these dusty old things, you won't know
what they are, but
they might.
And so you'll go to them, won't you?
If you accidentally pick up a bird book
which is Birds of America
by Ogiborne
and then you put it in a box
I'm testing you to see whether you've seen
the, you haven't seen it, have you?
No.
The successor series
to Detectorists.
Oh gosh, right.
No, I do want to watch that, but I don't get any BBC
so I've got to wait for some sort of channel
that is really good.
You like it, do you?
It's very good. Oh good.
I'm glad you didn't dash my hopes with that one.
No, what he's done
what's he called the man from Mackenzie Crook?
Mackenzie Crook, he's very, very clever.
So he's
managed to recreate
all the charm
and the whole
mood and the sort of the wistfulness
and the Englishness
of Detectorists
but with a completely different plot
line and characters.
It's very, very good.
Except this one's in Suburban Manchester.
Right.
I thought he'd use some of the characters from Detectorists.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they're not Detectorists.
There's not a metal detector in sight.
Although I did notice an Edward
the first, possibly Penny
appeared in one episode.
A little nod. An Easter egg.
A little nod, yeah.
He does come across as a thinker, Mackenzie Crook.
He doesn't
love the publicity
and he comes across as a very thoughtful individual.
He does.
I mean, I feel bad that I should even have raised
the subject of TV because it is evil
and it's a brainwashing device.
And yet, and yet.
What's another case if we have to live in their world
and there's no point in denying ourselves
the little pleasures.
It does mean that whenever you watch a film
or a TV show, you're always watching it
on at least two levels.
The level that's presented to you
and the one that looks in
at all the clues as to
what they're trying to do.
I suddenly thought, I was going to ask you,
have we spoken about
Doc Malis?
No, I think that was
possibly something that we talked about
over lunch when you came over.
Yes, that's right.
When you came to Worcester last.
So I've been kind of
wrestling with my
my conscience.
Like on the one hand,
Christopher Booker
used to say never get into a fight
with the chimney sweep.
And of course,
Christ enjoys us
to turn the other cheek.
But at the same time,
he did
overturn the moneylenders tables
and he
cursed the fig tree
just because it didn't give him any fruit.
Have you
where are you on
like
righteous rage and stuff
and forgiveness?
It's one of the trickiest parts
of the whole Christian deal.
You know, being told
not to judge
when really we're doing it all the time,
all the time, every day.
You're making your assessment
of someone, of what they've said,
of things they've done.
And
it's hard to know
just how far is acceptable
we're doing that because it's in human nature
to do so.
And then there's the forgiving
and then there's the
we had a discussion the other day in the pub
that was a semi sort of Thursday
circle-ish type meetup
talking with George
who's now fully Catholic
about whether or not
he said you should admonish
people who are sinning.
It's one of the things they're encouraged to do.
And it's like, well, isn't that the same as judging?
But then do you let people carry on
doing something that's wrong
and just ignore them?
I don't think it quite comes under judging.
I'm wondering whether one's allowed to kind of
smite and then forgive
or admonish and then
I think
if somebody
if somebody behaves very badly
ooh, thank you.
If somebody behaves badly
and sort of go around
kind of oblivious to
the toxicity of their behaviour
and the damage that they
at least tried to do
I kind of think they sort of need to be
exposed rather than allowed to get
I mean, if Jack
okay, this chap isn't Jack the Ripper
but if Jack the Ripper
is going around
and he's going around unchecked
is it really the question
thing to not
do not
call him out?
I think that's where the George's argument would hold
whereby you
you do have to
do what you can to stop sinners sinning
I suppose it's that whole greater good
expression, isn't it?
It's like
well that's the thing
I've become conscious that there are
look
that there are people who do what we do
that I think
most of us in this kind of
conspiracy
realm
are in it because we're seekers after truth
and we want to get to the bottom of things
and we
the calling is higher than
any kind of other considerations
like earning a living or stuff
I mean, I'd be doing this stuff
even if
it wasn't my living
and if somebody kind of
breaks that
the house rules
as it were and sort of starts
attacking
his own people
gratuitously
that's the bit that bothers me
the attacking your own people
it's sort of like well none of us perfect
but
unless you're quite clearly
and this is probably what they believe of you
they think they found
a reason to show that you are
not who you purport to be
yeah but I
really don't hold much water
I've written a long piece but I haven't
published it yet but well
largely because I've been held back by
I was going to finish it but my fingers aren't
working at the moment
but
okay
I don't want to name names
well just don't
no no no no
what I mean is
that people on my
side
are saying
you can't let this one pass
because it's not just about you it's about
all of us
and I take the point
that
this is actually bigger than me
I'm just thinking
aloud here
it's difficult isn't it
yeah well
clearly what's going to be the answer is to
do the
correct Christian thing
but that's what we started this discussion about
what is the
correct Christian approach to this
but it's not a cut and dry
well we know it's
thou shalt not kill
so that's out
I'm not going to
I don't cover his ass anyway so
bearing false witness
yeah you see he's born
he's born false witness isn't he
basically
and that's kind of
that's a bit of a no no
yeah
I think actually
you've clarified that one
you've clarified that one yeah
he's born false witness
and that ain't good
no
um
and you know if you are a seeker of the truth
bearing false witness
the worst thing
doing it knowingly
yeah
to score points
or whatever
it is horrible
when our side turns on each other
and there's a lot of it about
there's not enough good targets out there
this is the thing
you've got
the entire
Epstein
guest list
who did unspeakable things
I mean look at
do you know what John Podesta
someone has pointed out recently about that
you're very naive if you think
it's just Epstein
he's just going to be one of many such people
who had
that sort of level of connection
and that made me think, blimey
what if he's just the tip of the iceberg
so who else are you thinking
well I don't know who else it can possibly be
but who would have known
about Epstein had it not
somehow blown open
I mean is he the one
we're being allowed to know about
will it be dealt with and then will it make everyone
think the whole problem's gone away
all I'm saying is
I would feel very uncomfortable
if I were to discover
the in-between writing charming
sitcoms about
English people
Mackenzie Crook was running them
I mean
it just wouldn't be Mackenzie Crook would it
who would you
who would you like to be
this is going to be
a very incriminating question
if I was to come up with a name
I'm not saying who do you think is guilty
I see who would it make
you happy to discover was guilty
I mean there are obvious ones like Piers Morgan
and Gary Lynn
who would be the
David Attenborough that would be
I think I've just
won haven't I
did you see how well my David Attenborough
Tweet did the other day
what did you say
it was me having a conversation
with my normie colleagues at work
one of them sat round the coffee machine
one of them goes David Attenborough
he must be
one of the most loved people in the country
in fact I can't imagine anyone not liking him
and I was like
let me just say
and I started
spouting off on him
and the last thing I put was
simultaneous eye roll from all of my
colleagues because
they just think I'm contrary
for the sake of being contrary
but
they haven't got a clue
and they didn't even know what the word Malthusian meant
and even if they'd looked it up
they'd probably dismiss it
but
it's
that feeling you had
touched a nerve
that feeling you had with your work colleagues
I did get a bit of
a glimpse of that
in the operating theatre
when I was
when I mentioned Merovingian blood
sacrifices and then I talked about
Adrenochrome harvesting and stuff
I thought maybe I pushed it too far
I don't know
I don't
one of us pushing it too far that almost never happens
the thing is they don't say
they don't because
I suppose they just go a bit cold on you
you're a patient or whatever
they call you Mr
or Sir
I probably feel they have some sort of professional
relationship that they have to maintain with you
I had a similar thing
and he may well be listening now
but
I just
met
my new accountant
and I don't know much about him
but I was spouting off and I was over sharing
and he was interested in everything I had to say
and so I was just going on
and on I was like
I have no idea whether he's on board
with any of this and he was just
being so pleasant that I just carried
straight on and it's
dangerous territory I could be
saying completely the wrong thing
I've done this but I'm an overshara
and
I think you are too
yes
that was one of the things that God did when he was making us
and wanted to kind of
he didn't want to make us too perfect
he's done a really good job there
they are faultless at the moment
what characteristics
can I
I'm going to roll my dice
my million sided dice
it's come up over sharers
how I'm sharing is
I'm going to give this one a stupid
past I'm going to make him ring bells
later on but I'm going to make him
into hunting even though he can't
ride very well
yeah and I got bold head
moustache
reenactment
I've got a few other weird
rolls of the million sided
dice but
yeah they all keep you
grounded to some degree
have you before we go I know that you don't like to
overrun
I might go to the pub because it's Friday evening
well done
I
I feel like
it's like cold coming in I'm sure I've got it
I've had a runny nose since the last summer
but I put that down
to the sodding chem trails but
whatever it is they're putting up there is not agreeing
with me
or anyone for that matter
I just wanted to warn you of a podcast
I've got coming up I mean it's out to subscribers
so you probably technically
you can just do it now because I think I give you
listening free don't I
it's with
um
what's he called
my brains gone blank
um
Sir Eskenal
yeah I thought that come up but I didn't know
Sir Eskenal is I mean he's
top on
he's he's very very
awake
he's been awake for a very long time he's very very good
on calling out all the kind of
geopolitical trickery and stuff and he's not
for the actual night of the realm
no he's not he's he's he's
he's Greek right formerly
Orthodox but but but this is the story
I'm about to tell you so
I thought he was going to do
just tell me all more
stuff about how the world works and stuff and
um
but he's
but he's he's he's gone
so far down the rabbit hole that he thinks
that the reason we haven't been killed
is not because they can't
be asked but because we're actually we're actually
doing their work for them and
that we are
pointing stuff out that they want
pointed out because we are
you and me yeah I'm up
for killing am I no no we
are we are
by revealing everything that
that the whole rottenness of the system we
are ushering in
the moment when
the Luciferian
um yang to the satanic
yin comes in
and and and so
we we we are paving the way
for this moment where
people are suddenly relieved
that all this apparent
the all the mass can't even slip completely
away and and actually
the new thing is just as bad
and then and then he tells me about
his finding
what he discovered about
Jesus that that
convinced him that um
that the bible too
is a massive sigh up so he treats me
to all this this stuff and he says
one of the things he says is quite interesting he says
do you know how
the the disciples were
well I assume they were
young men in their 20s
when yeah they weren't
and if you if you google this you'll find
this is the case they were they were about 15
what 15 yeah
wow Jesus was older
and so but it the inference
he drew on that was that was something
slightly creepy and sort of slightly
homoerotic about and that actually
Jesus was just a kind of
um a sort of
rebadged sort of elusinian
mystery cult stroke
sort of
he
I didn't
I found his argument quite shocking and
and uh you know
whoa when he was when he was telling it to me
but I've since
I've since looked into
there's another guy who talks about this stuff who's made it his shtick
that Jesus was a pedo
that Jesus was whatever
um and you know an alleged
Greek scholar and I think
his arguments are actually they've
been pretty comprehensively
debunked by
other
other language scholars you know other other
Greek and other Greek scholars
um
but I suppose what I'm saying
is when you listen to the if you listen to the pod
just just go in there sort of
brace yourself brace yourself
yeah yeah I'm not going to like that very much
no it's all right I think it's good
it's good to be exposed to these ideas because
because actually I think one needs to know
what arguments are being
used by the absolutely yeah yeah yeah
I mean I
keep falling back on that whenever I get
my doubts about my chosen root
and faith I fall back on things
like the books you lent me and I think about
the uh the monks on Mount
Athos and I think well
you're going to say all those guys are
wrong that that they're regularly
communing with the saints and you know
they they've got info an information
fast track
that we could only imagine you know
that it's not just
the Bible they've got their own ancient
scriptures there they've got
um direct
knowledge it's
this is this is my
take to and in our own
little way we do have God
does give us little little
shiny glimpses hello
here I am yeah um God
Winks God Winks he does
um
um yeah so
it is worth pointing out to
the naysayers that it isn't just
the Bible that we're hanging on to
you know you can't debunk
bits of the Bible and then expect our whole
faith to fall apart because there's so
much more to it than that
especially when you last read Isaiah
or Isaiah as the Americans call
the system calling him yeah we
we I think we say uh
Isaiah and um
when did you last read him
um
I think we've been doing
no yeah have we been doing
Bible study on him no Hebrews
when do you do Bible study
um it happens
various times
there's two sets going on at the moment
um there's one when we're doing
revelation and there's another
that's a toughie
but it's uh obviously all
from an orthodox perspective and when do
you where do you in Worcester yeah
at my church
how far is it
10 minute drive it's very
close to where I took you swimming that time
really close really close
oh no I'm very lucky it was
one of sorry about the nose
it's one of the reasons I decided
it was calling me because
there's people who have to travel halfway
across the country to get to that church
every week and um for me it's
a 10 minute drive so that was another
you know you've lucked out there
yes
moving closer to my new name
which you've given
strong approval to
so when we get baptized
we're meant to take a baptismal name
and there's a paeceos
in my church
um yeah they all
go for the big names don't they
well you're not going to go for
Saint Bob are you it's it's good you're going to go
for a name that has I don't believe the
resistant Bob
no but probably a Robert
is there a Saint Robert even
I don't even know that it's going to be
Roberto or something like that
I don't know but anyway
I'm looking like choosing
Wolfston
who was the bishop the last
um
Anglo-Saxon bishop to still be
serving uh under the Normans
and uh
yeah he was a born near where
you live served here
and Gloucestershire and London
um became the
patron saint of vegetarians
and peasants
and how was he martyred
um I
don't think he was I don't think that
the most of the modern day
bishops were particularly seen
off in a horrific way I think oh no
he died whilst
washing the feet of a parishioner
I
would rather go
that way than being sawn in
half by a wooden saw given the choice
it sounds really quite appealing
doesn't it yeah yeah
that's not a bad way to go which is
why the only the only disciple
you want to be is is John even though
I like James the only
one not martyred horribly yeah not
not martyred at all
no
yeah just died and he was Jesus
his favourite or so he tells us
the one he loved the one he loved
yeah
anyway lots lots more
conversations for another time well exactly
we've done well um
so
that's it isn't it looks like
it so we've done your finger that's
the main thing this was the James's
finger podcast
yeah this
was the main thing so now we know
and they can pick your nose with
great efficiency and accuracy
well
yeah
I'm wearing
I'm wearing sling clothes
the other thing
talking about getting gratuitous the angry
I was
furious this morning you know what I was
furious with getting dressed
cuffs yeah cuffs
why does everything have to have a cuff
why is this got stupid
because everything has a cuff
when you when you've got a sling
when you've got a plaster cast
and it's a real pain it's
all about
t-shirts and jumpers for me
but uh yeah if you've got cuffs
then re-examine
your wardrobe
enough of the shirts already
yeah okay right
um good
well that's it then isn't it looks like
it thank you
um I hope your call gets better
yeah well it doesn't
show any signs of it but yeah let's hope
oh one more thing um
dear beloved viewers
and listeners um
I just want to say extra thank you to you
because I've heard that
it's really really hard
to download
my to upload my
my podcast
apparently they the powers
that be make it extra extra body
difficult so thank you
for sticking with me and making the effort
um I mean I know I'm worth it
but it's good to know that you you know
I'm worth it too so thank you
even those who you don't give me money
even those even the freeloaders
I love you just for making the effort
and for being my friend
and sticking with me through thick and thin
so thank you and thank you
okay speak to you soon then brother
lots of love okay