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Mr. Penguin we have lots of things to talk about tonight and I think that even
some of the stuff I brought in is kind of like penguin topics oh yeah for
sure so anything liberty oriented well yeah I agree but we all kind of have
our like kind of like our subjects we're more interested in and one of those for
me recently has been the whole thing with Venezuela I was gonna say Trump's
starting a war is Venice Venezuela but honestly everything he's doing yeah did
you hear that he literally said this I think you're going to see that this is
war I did not see that yeah but I am aware of the ships that he's been
blowing up and the tankers you've been seizing yeah and he also made a US
blockade of Venezuela as far as their oil trade I'm not sure exactly who that like
does that apply to everyone is the US telling every country they cannot buy
oil there yeah like basically anything that's on the US any oil tanker that's
on the US sanctions list basically now what people have to understand is that
it's a US sanctions list it's not a like some sort of international sanctions
list where like nobody can do business with Venezuela it's US so there's no
there's no international law it's not legal at the international level under
like international law what the US is doing is illegal actually yeah it's
or or the other way to phrase it is it's an act of war the US is basically
committing an act of war on Venezuela so if Venezuela were to say oh I
don't know defend itself it would be within every right you know under
international law to do so Wow it does it does seem like an act of war I haven't
heard that yeah but trying to stop them from being able to trade with their
number one probably resource it must be their number one resource right you
always hear about oh yeah that's the that's like 90 something percent of the
economy in Venezuela for what I understand so this article from Wall
Street Journal says US oil blockade of Venezuela pushes Cuba toward collapse and
I thought that was kind of interesting because it's like well now we're looking
at how other countries and other people in other countries are now suffering
from this weird thing that Trump's trying to do to Venezuela that doesn't
even make sense because who wants this who asked for this you know what I mean
yeah well I mean it's it's basically bullying at the international level it's
piracy it's the United States committing piracy against Venezuela
because not only are they blocking the ships from getting in or out they're
actually seizing the ships and then they're actually taking the oil off the
ships and we technically don't know what what nothing has happened yet as far as
I know because there's a process that it goes through but basically what's going
to happen is that oil is going to get sold and then the profits are going to
go into the US government's pocket under US law you mean the ones that they
seized yeah yeah but it's illegal right the US is illegally stolen you know
oil from Venezuela and Venezuela and it's basically or at least ships you know
going to and from Venezuela with oil on it yeah I mean it's technically speaking
like these ships are not necessarily Venezuela flagged ships but they're
doing business with Venezuela and it's not like the ships are going to the
United States where they could then maybe be you know legally seized they're
in international water where they're being seized so yeah I mean I mean for a
guy who says he's you know he's not gonna get us into any you know international
wars this isn't literally an act of war I mean you're you're you're you're just
short of declaring war and you're committing acts of war so it's but
then again I mean politicians are hypocrites right well I did hear them
explicitly say that they were planning to sell the oil on it yeah I mean so
that's that's what comes next there's like a legal process within US law but
it's not like so normally the thing that's really messed up they always get
to decide that it's legal for them to do what they want you know well here's
the thing once they have it like they don't care where it came from and this
is like really messed up yeah so basically what's gonna happen is they're
taking these tankers to US US ports and then and then it'll end up going through
a process because under US law it's it's it's sanctioned but again it's like you
can't go into another country and kidnap people and bring them back that's the
kind of thing that North Korea does that get they get criticized for all
the time they've kidnapped you know thousands of people from like Japan
and in other countries of their quote-a-quote their own people no just
Japanese people we're talking about literally Japanese not just Japanese but
Japanese yeah and they did that you know they've done that in order to train
their own like spies and things wow anyway but like the United States does the
same thing not okay so it I don't understand about for spy purposes but
for other reasons it will kidnap people overseas it's called rendition I
believe it's called and when they basically they kidnap people from
overseas and then once they get to the United States the courts don't care
that it was illegal there was no proper extradition that occurred and it's
yeah I mean it's people you know you know the United States criticizes
you know countries like Venezuela and you know North Korea and Cuba and
other countries you know but yeah it then does basically the same kind of
things you know that are you know clearly unequivocally illegal you know
under international law so it's yeah it's really hard to it's really hard to get
upset over Venice what Venezuela is doing you know from that perspective
now it's I think it's completely you mean upset over if they retaliate yeah
well I mean not only that it's hard to get upset over Venezuela committing
basically war crimes and things when the United States is doing the same thing
what is the war crimes you're saying they're doing Venezuela oh yeah it's
interesting question because we haven't actually I hadn't really even thought
about it you know actually I don't know that they would be war crimes that I'm
thinking of just like selling their oil against the United because that that's
there's nothing there's nothing illegal about you know at an
international level it would only be illegal for them to like maybe sell
it to some American company or something like that in the US or something but
then of course you know they would the tankers would be sees if they those
tankers came to the United States so yeah that's obviously not happening well
we should get into this article and it'll tell us more yeah so so the
thing that the Venezuelan thing that's going on is basically the
president has basically declared himself a dictator and for life kind of
situation and he's refusing to surrender power to the oh yeah so it's
not a war crime but the point that I'm making like human rights yeah it's a
human rights type of issue which universally Trump has also been accused
of I'm I'm not I'm a little skeptical that you can call what Trump did you
know equivalent but well what about people dying in I must have lost that
article but I had articles about like multiple people dying in ice custody
and stuff like that in like these people that are getting arrested for
so I mean that's that's way worse you know that kind of stuff that's going on
you know under under you know under Trump but it's the thing is that people
have to remember this stuff has been going on before a lot of this stuff has
been before Trump Trump is basically what's different about Trump is he's
making a or he's using these actions for public relations reasons right it's
a good thing in his viewers mind yeah I mean a lot of this a lot of the
crimes that have been committed by the United States occurred under prior
presidents and you know Trump is basically just continuing on sort of with
the status quo but people are getting upset about it or they're getting upset
about it because maybe he's going he's crossing a maybe a line that previous
presidents didn't necessarily one thing he's doing is that it's not crossing a
line is a making like these videos and putting them out like celebrating all
the ice arrest and that is making people really mad I'm not saying it's a line
I don't know if that's a line like yeah I get what you're saying right he hasn't
done that right and that's publicity right that's completely publicity but
yeah but yeah no like but the thing is like see the thing is like a lot of
times these these are like there's like when you when you start talking about
like numbers and things there's probably and I don't know this with
certainty but I imagine there probably isn't like some sort of you know
substantial like increase for example in the number of extraditions that are
occurring under Trump what we what we're seeing is I actually I don't know
that I was really interested in that article I don't I suspect that's not
the case and I think that's what I kind of have heard is that that we're not
actually seeing like substantial increases in deportations that's what he
wants but that's not necessarily what's occurring because there's still
our processes and that's the thing when people say oh well he's not you
know he's not following the law or whatever well you know in some respects I
can understand that argument but on the same time he's he's kind of he's sort
of he's interpreting the law and it may not be the way we like it or want it
generally speaking but like every president does this kind of thing
they they they do this they do these things and it's like okay they shouldn't
have done those things but it's like it takes a lot of energy and effort for
all sorts of different organizations particularly organizations like the
ACLU American Civil Libertarian Union they'll try to frontier foundation
I'm trying to think some of the other ones there's a libertarian law firm
which you probably know the name of that does what libertarian law firm
oh just the Institute for Justice yeah Institute for Justice that's it
um anyway I just had to put my tongue that kind of thing of it yeah
but anyway these these organizations you know every time there's a president a new
president who comes into power they're fighting all sorts of things you know
that these presidents are you know doing that you know are illegal or their
administration's doing they're they're illegal and it just it takes a ton of
money and resources and everything else yeah and in some of the cases like the
things that are people are doing wrong it's not even necessarily Trump himself
it's the judge like making bad calls you know like illegally saying it's okay to
to keep arresting someone who'd like should have been arrested you know yeah
there's a lot of bad calls by judges um and it's it's like I'm not saying that to
be like oh Trump didn't do anything wrong I'm simply saying I don't know to your
point yeah yeah I mean one of the problems with with our system is that
we have judges and most of these judges are former prosecutors they're not
you know there's this idea that they're supposed to be impartial but
that's not the way the system is set up the system is not set up to put
impartial people into judgeships um it's set up to put prosecutors into
judgeships and they of course have a bias because they've moved up the letter over
the over the years um by gaining convictions that's because that's how you
move up the ladder and from as for when you become a prosecutor you move up at
the ladder by getting prosecute or getting convictions sorry um when you
prosecute a case so the more convictions you get the better you
know the better chances you are that you move up the ladder that kind of
thing um so yeah I mean um our system is just it's it's we have
problems like our system itself has major problems in addition to the
people that we elect so it's it's kind of a
there's a combination of issues that go on in that in that regard
well I agree with that and I just I the only thing that I disagree with you on
is making a like I don't want to make a statement on
that Trump isn't doing it more isn't arresting people legally more because
I think they're purposely obfuscating those numbers I was really interested
in getting into that article yeah yeah so I mean so I'm not I'm not
trying to suggest that he's not illegally arresting people I'm just no
at a higher rate than other presidents because there are people
even people I do trust like what their their research skills and stuff claiming
that he is yeah I mean so so yeah so like I think I
think what you have to look at is like okay like what per like yeah I gotta
start looking at like percentages right like if you look at the number of
people that are being arrested I don't think that's gonna be quite
the numbers that you've been made uh or you've been led to believe
if you can pull up some if you're able to find some statistics on that I would
love to hear what people think in terms I just didn't really want to do that in the
middle of the show but I would it's hard to do I know yeah maybe on a break we
can if we besides I'm not joking like whenever I've tried to just do a
quick thing because people I know we're like arguing about or something
you can't find a quick answer and that's when I get like distracted and
go on to some other topic you know what I mean yeah so I guess I guess what
I'm trying to say is that like okay so they like he he extradited like
300 people illegally to um what was the ice facility in uh on door not on
doors where was it I don't know it's uh El Salvador right
oh okay so that's an example right like that was one of the big you know
extradiction or extraditions right that he did or I don't know if that's the
right word but anyway he basically shipped a bunch of people off to
El Salvador right um and prison in El Salvador well the thing is that
when I say that he hasn't probably done as much as you think
it's because this is all public relations right and that was a lot of people
but it wasn't a lot of people in the scheme of extraditions right just because
like you're saying Biden might have been doing the same amount but I'm just
saying I don't think we know that yeah there's a lot of it with my point that
I'm trying to make is that there's a lot of extraditions every year and so 300
people in terms of the number of extraditions that occur on a
yearly basis is nothing right but the number of
been hearing is not 300 the numbers I've been hearing is like
hundreds of thousands of more cases like this
than normal and that's just what I'm hearing from people who are
interested in it looking into it and I wasn't in fact I don't know what a
hundred thousand people is in the scheme of extraditions on like say a
yearly basis or whatever so I don't really have a
good idea to compare and that's basically exactly what I'm saying to
saying like I don't know that so I'm not going to claim one way or the
other yeah right and I don't know for like I kept
I said before too and I'm gonna repeat myself I don't know for sure either so
this would be something that would be great to find out yeah I just know that
article I was missing a lot of the next break a lot of what presidents do is
theatrics a lot of what politicians do is theatrics and certainly a lot of what
trump has done has been theatrics there's a lot of things that he did by
edict but once it hits the courts those things have been turned out
turned you know actually thought that he actually made
weed um schedule four instead of schedule one do you know what that
means so that would make it less I understand this I understand the
schedules um yeah so but he actually didn't like all he
did was make a direct announcement but he didn't actually do it made in um
executive order that told them to hurry up the process because apparently
Biden already started the exact same process was that a law that passed and
then what I was talking about just now what Trump
did yeah was an executive order telling them and I don't know what
Biden did was it a law I don't know all I know is they
they're already in the process of they have to look into
and then change it from schedule one to schedule four which would put it in the
same range Ian told me as um man what's that call that
starts with uh it's when you go in the k-hole
it's uh um so it'd be in the same as steroid use
okay and also the k-hole when it's I'm not remembering what that's called
right now um and I think you know what you're talking about
I keep wanting to say KEPRA and that's just because I've been in the gypsy rose
case it's not KEPRA that's a seizure medicine this is something that was
sold over the counter basically right up until recently uh I don't know how
recently but doctors can prescribe it right now
uh ketamine ketamine yeah yeah was the ketamine sold openly without a
prescription even maybe before like a long time ago like maybe like before
I was born or something oh no I meant like recently it's
definitely been illegal since I was like a kid but I mean like
schedule four more like instead of like oh they're
pulling cars over and looking for the smell of KEPRA like I wonder I wonder if
it was legal at a state level and not at the uh it wasn't legal at the
federal level but it wasn't it wasn't as serious as some other
substances and the other thing about it is you can go to a doctor and they
can get you KEPRA but you like stay in the room with
them and have a session with them like they don't just give to you and
you walk off okay yeah it's like a therapy thing
yeah so I know the different like um all right I meant to say ketamine I think I
think schedule um drugs has to do in part with
whether or not they recognize it as having medical
a municipal uh value basically and so so um if it's if it's if it has
medical some sort of medical value or when just
which is why it's like insane that they're they say about weed because
weed right there are lots of people that claim that
has medical value and and lots of doctors that use it for medical value um
but whereas like what doctor is giving you alcohol for medical value
for a medical reason I've not heard of that except for like historically like
oh okay maybe um like I mean they would they would you know get
like give the baby this to make the baby sleep and stuff like that
wasn't even thinking of that I was thinking more like somebody got shot
and they didn't have any kind of drugs and you know alcohol was the
only thing that would uh well I had a couple of uses one was I think to um
you know keep out bacteria and stuff although I don't know how well or what
what point they knew that would occur or that would help um
and then the other is for you know you get really drunk you don't know that
they're sawing off your leg right um in a battle that kind of thing um so
yeah like during like the civil war period I think like they used it for
for that type of I still think that like there's like for example with
cratum anytime I try to look up like an answer about cratum it's
really hard to find things because they just don't study it that much
but weed has been studied a lot and lots of good things have been like found
there have been lots of things that it helped with I'm not even like a weed
user I'm not even like a big weed promoter like I wouldn't
like tell somebody I think that's a good idea for them to smoke weed in most
cases and yet I still can admit that there
are lots of studies that show oh look this did something good for
well I mean that's that's the libertarian mindset right like I don't
smoke weed either and yet yeah I mean I don't I don't think it should be
illegal right but in Trump's executive order thing he
did where he just basically ranted about that and kind of basically told the
the government like hurry it up and make it schedule for
um he went off it not he I don't know if it's his own words you know what I
mean but um in the executive order he goes off
about how weed isn't that that harmful and it's kind of so weird to be
saying that and um making like a huge statement like that was really just a
big statement basically and at the same time trying to
start a war with Venezuela over other drugs right and another funny thing about
that is that like he's like he's using that as an excuse to blow uh you know
drug boats out of the water right yeah we're supposed drug drug boats
it's like wait a minute okay so hold on so
weed is okay but you're probably blowing drug boats out of the water
with weed like what sense does any of this make
yeah I don't know it's like yeah murder at that I mean that's
you know that's that's what you've done is you've murdered somebody they haven't
gotten a you know a fair trial you haven't you know
it's like it's one thing to you know once somebody hits you as shores
you can go after and arrest those people and you know to you know
prosecute them right and that that's the proper way of going about it
because until they hit your shores yeah you haven't committed a crime
I think they're going to sell weed to Americans or you know actually wasn't
weed they've been claiming it's fentanyl and stuff but and the
thing is it's it's just suspicion there's no evidence right like until we have
you know until they've actually seized the drugs they don't know what it is they
just think it's that because blowing ships up that's insane
like I've never heard of a president doing something like this
oh no other president has for what I understand and what really blows my
mind is it being like venezuela you know what I mean
it's not like the thing is I'm not saying it makes it better if it's as
afghanistan but I feel like presidents have probably done
similar things in like afghanistan and we never hear about it because oh it's in
the middle of war in afghanistan they had us soldiers guarding the poppy fields
I mean yeah but I'm just saying in in some other country but yeah it really
brings it close to home when it feels like you're starting a fight with one
of our like close neighbors that could easily just like you know come and
kill a bunch of americans because they are mad about it like if your child
is killed on one of those drug boats
you may be more inclined to sneak over the border and do a terrorist attack I'm
not saying that like I think that is likely or something like that
it's just like whenever it's happening in afghanistan there is still blowback
in america like we had 9-11 and yet venezuela is way closer why are you
picking a fight with people like you see what I'm saying like blowback is a
real yeah absolutely no and and I think I think you can even extend
afghanistan came after 9-11 but nonetheless but you but there's a point
that you made there that is completely valid in that we one of the things that
the united states has done over the decades is gone in with corporations and
other western values into countries where the population doesn't like doesn't
have those values doesn't like us and and so you end up with these
terrorists targeting you know americans it's like that was not you
know 9-11 wasn't just oh you know we hate americans they have reasons to hate americans
yeah so I'm not saying it was justified I'm just saying that right I don't either
exactly it's just that we know this is a phenomenon that happens
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week's top stories the united states launched air strikes against isis in the north of nigeria
on christmas day us president donald trump said they were to send a message to insurgents in the
country who he claims are persecuting christians fsn's jagruti davai has more from washington
donald trump has been threatening military intervention in nigeria for some time and this
was the justification he gave for these strikes which he described as deadly in a social media
he said isis terrorists scum have been targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians
he added merry christmas to all including the dead terrorists of which there will be many more
if their slaughter of christians continues us africa command said their initial assessment
is that multiple isis terrorists were killed in isis camps the strikes were coordinated
with the nigerian government whose foreign minister said they shared intelligence with the
india in bangladesh summoned each other's envoys over protests outside their diplomatic missions
as already tense ties spiral the latest round of formal protests come after right-wing groups staged
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minister sheik hasena earlier this year us president trump announced a new type of battleship set to
be used by the us navy and it is one named after himself fsn's mitch mccann reports standing beside
the defense secretary and the secretary of state donald trump announced that the us will build
two new trump class battleships mr trump told reporters on monday he is calling them the
golden fleet and said eventually there'll be 25 of them mr trump said the new ships will have
100 times the force and power of any other battleship ever built and then there will
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angelo and mr penguin and i did find the article in the last segment i was talking about and i
it's not that i'm like trying to disprove what you're saying penguin it's just simply that like
we both were wondering because this is the this is exactly the normal pattern of presence like
he's the only one that started he is a new um you know he's a republican whereas last one was a
democrat and so he starts talking about we're going to be doing this and everybody thinks that it's
new starting with that president in reality the government's been doing it so it is true that
the government like biden was arresting people with ice and deporting people and just wouldn't
talk about it a lot of the a lot of the um the really tragic kind of things that you know these
people these politicians have done these you know the president basically um it has occurred under
multiple under multiple different administrations and as an example um one of the things was
separating kids from their parents right um in ice attention facilities okay that happened
under both you know under both democrat and republican administrations um but that's the
kind of thing that you know people often will you know say it's trump you know trump is you
know somehow at fault when it it's like well no that's that's not exactly it's kind of a
misleading you know misleading people right um because it happened under different administrations
on both sides political sides basically okay yes i agree um but i did want to know is it
growing or not so i found this article from msn four ice detainee deaths in four days
spark alarm as arrests grow but you're talking about the death toll not the not the number of
immigrants actually well it's it also like uh references arrest growing so i want to get into
i haven't read this okay um it says four people in immigration detention have died over a four
day period this month increasing concern among advocates and some members of congress
over detention conditions one death took place december 12th another two took place on december
14th and the fourth on december 15th according to us immigration and customs enforcement news releases
four detainee deaths in one week is a red hot crisis why are people dying this this is insane
why are people who are being arrested dying in custody like i don't even hear about just like
like criminals dying in jail but often you know i mean like just part of the
simply because of the number of detainees um and what is that number i i don't know what the
numbers are exactly but if you look up the number of detainees you're gonna find that there's a lot of
people in detention even then it's like how often so you're gonna have you know you're gonna have
deaths but the question is are they are they the result of the conditions and they've always
the conditions have always been bad in the prison systems i mean i mean even in the even
in the federal prison system when it comes to us citizens the the detention facilities are
terrible shape um we know that because of aria um and and ian yeah but ian and oria didn't experience
something that's like oh you you'll die about this you know what i mean um so some of the people that
we know have the have experienced those types of conditions i do believe um like for example
not at the federal level here um but at least at the state level for example in uh manchester
the prison conditions there are really really really terrible you don't want to be arrested
about um manchester the one in manchester i forget what it's called do you remember what that one's
called it's like main street is what i want to say it's not main street it's something street
valley street yeah valley street yeah it's supposed to be really bad um i haven't necessarily heard
that somebody died there but i people have died yeah um they find all the time like even then
it's like rap poison in people's foods and oh my god yeah people are murdered um so like by
other detain detainees or something it doesn't get investigated or it doesn't get investigated
properly or they don't have any enough evidence to determine who was you know the killer right yeah
so yeah but the point is that like the conditions are bad right so um but and this is the same
thing at the federal level um now it may be that the conditions are even worse at you know some
of these detention centers right for immigrants um it's there is a there's a variety of
conditions at different prisons across the united states at the federal level so
it's not and it's not the conditions were never good right so if it's it's worse under trump that
that very well could be they could be crowding more people into these detention facilities
making the situation even worse and this could result in you know an increasing number of deaths
so i want to know if it but that also kind of begs more questions because i want to know
well is it because is it kind of normal considering we're doing like four times as many arrests or not
so well here let me i have another statistic that is worth mentioning here um so we were asking
before what is the you know what's the level of extradition that's occurring in the united
states now versus prior to trump so in 2022 um there were 109 000 extradition immigrants extradited
okay in 2024 it was something around 700 000 wow so it clearly has significantly increased under
the most recent trump administration yep um but you know i mean i mean keep improving one of the
other things to keep in mind is that like there's only so much money going into these um extraditions
and you know in law enforcement and that kind of thing at that level so like they can increase
the number of extraditions but they sort of they are limited by their resources still
but they can do things like you know cut corners and result in more people dying for example to
sort of push those numbers up and that's probably what's going on i mean to try to i mean think
about think about how many you'd have to increase the resources by seven if you want to extradite
you know right but is are the in have the has the funding gone up by seven fold yeah exactly
maybe there's no chance because they want to pay the ice agents but not necessarily like oh
they're making sometime more room in the prisons or whatever if you look at the if you look at the
budgets i am sure that has not you know gone up by seven fold um there's you know and remember
that not only does it doesn't it doesn't need to go up by seven fold it needs to go up by even
more than that because if you look at inflation uh you know look at inflation i mean everything's
more than doubled you know in the last handful of years so it it's not it's not you know
double it's not it's i'm ira seven fold is more like you know 15 fold or maybe even more than
that potentially um would need to be funded in order to you know just keep up with the
level and the conditions that we had you know in 2022 or maybe a little before that even
this article back on msnb or sorry msn.com it says this man unis show senior council at
the american civil liberties union national prison project so that means aclu right so that aclu
national prison project okay there is no question in my mind that this represents a clear deterioration
of medical care and the worsening conditions in ice detention the recent deaths deaths bring total
detainee deaths to 30 in 2025 the highest number since 2004 when 32 people died in ice custody
this year's i wonder what like what was going on then like actually doesn't sound that bad
especially can sit relative to the number of people that they're incarcerating so yeah but think
about in 2004 it's probably many less um i don't know actually well no but i'm trying to say is the
percentage of people right so if you have maybe that would make a higher percentage in 2004 you
should have a higher percentage if you have a higher a higher number of detainees right so if
you have a 700,000 versus 100,000 you would expect there to be a seven fold increase in the
number of deaths and that's not necessarily because of worsening conditions yeah but we don't
know that yet so i want to look it up it actually it's kind of crazy so i guess in 2004 more people
were detained than 2002 that you read earlier it says okay 2022 not 2002 oh 2002 yeah but this is
also confusing me it says approximately 235,247 foreign nationals yeah in 2004 but what is
did your your thing also like specify foreign nationals because i don't know if that's
everyone's detained by ICE um my understanding is that was the numbers for extradition of uh
like illegal immigrants basically yeah that's that's what they're trying to give me this answer for
but it's also uh AI and it's feels weird that saying oh specifically foreign nationals and it's
like do you have to be a foreign national like because honestly the word foreign national is this
like um wishy washy term and it's like you could you could move to america say i don't like
Somalia anymore at all and i don't want it i'm not smelling and i'm american and they'll still call
you a foreign national on the news because they're like they want everyone out you know what i mean
yeah i mean basically anytime extradition comes into effect um so anybody overstaying a visa would
also count um and that doesn't necessarily mean they're extradited though so i'm wondering if the
number is bigger to not include foreign nationals but i guess i'd be wrong well i mean so it was
the case in particular that you know people would overstay their visas a bit and then leave
voluntarily um but this is tends to be you know like you know not so much immigrants um
that's more of tourism kind of thing what is this talking about now is it now i'm starting to think
this is like AI weirdness and i should should just move on because it says contacts this was
part of a broader enforcement effort where dhs apprehended over 1.2 million foreign nationals
in 2004 with 92 from mexico so is that the same thing as what is this doing no detention
detention does not necessarily mean extradition right so somebody could be detained released and
not be extradited yeah but i didn't know we're looking up specifically only numbers of being
extradited because these people are just dying in ice detention not necessarily after being extradited
right so you're right i mean you're right we did look up extradition not detentions um
and it's it's kind of it's kind of a complicated thing to like think about because
and also they they make they money the waters i swear like this is like the hardest thing i've
ever tried to google because some of my like people i know we're actually arguing about these numbers
and like i try to start googling they don't make it easy you know what i mean no um they don't um
but you know there's also some other factors here too that they're probably playing into this so
like for example um the seven the numbers uh well maybe not the extradition number but for
example the number of detainees you can you can do sevenfold increase in detainees
and not necessarily reduce the conditions if you're not holding on to people as well yeah like
if you're detained for a day right so it right exactly so if if somebody you know in 2004 was
detained for 25 days for example on average but they're only you know detaining people for two
days on average you know in 2024 um you know then then the conditions the the prison conditions
they don't have to spend more money basically on those prison conditions well i will say that
this here gives us at least a little bit of an answer it says nearly 66 000 people are currently in
detention according to ice data which is a record high so that's a record high of people all being
in in detention at once and it says the trump administration is seeking to spend 45 billion
dollars to expand immigration detention after refusing or sorry receiving an infusion of
cash from congress so i guess they recently got more money from congress to do more of this
i guess the rise in detention talk about waste of your tax you know your tax money right i'm just
holding these people and stuff especially since we're having we have government people who don't
want to have to show their faces grabbing people off the streets that we don't know like let's
just say there are some people that absolutely are here and i don't mean just illegally oh
they cross the border and i care about that law like they came here and they got brought here
by some NGO and don't have a job and are living off welfare say you want only those people taken
off well you're still paying this ice agent to arrest a bunch of people that maybe it's even someone
they don't like or something like that and never have any accountability and it turns out that person
was not illegal it happens all the time you know what i mean so it's definitely a huge waste
even if you are into this i'm following what you're saying so you're yeah you're so you're
talking about all the arrests that have been occurring in relation to people who were simply
foreigners or they might have even been born here in some cases and have you a citizenship you have
to pay for that and then it finds oh well we found out sorry and they released them it's like you
have to pay for that yeah yeah there's a lot right there's a tension and you know maybe somebody
doesn't have ID on them or maybe they do have ID on them but you know they still you know they
still detain them for some weird cases to you where people are completely legal even though
they're from another place but they are legally here and they have like one minor arrest for
like somebody that happened in new hampshire i think it was maybe it was the connecticut airport
canada i think it was they like extradite somebody to canada recently who had been here for like 20
something years i don't know that could be a different one because when i'm thinking he didn't
get he didn't get sent to canada he was being held and uh he's being would be allowed back into
the united states right he was the united he was uh from new hampshire but he was using the
connecticut airport and he got detained there and i don't think he actually got um sent away
anywhere they they were holding him and the only reason that they brought up with something about
him having a weed case that was dismissed from like 10 years earlier yeah and he was from germany
or something like that okay that's a different case um but yeah yeah i know um i know there was a
case in uh somebody yeah like 20 they were here in the united states for 20 something plus years
with a family and everything they were illegal they had a green card or something of that nature
and um they i think they had permanent residence permanent residence status sorry um yeah and
then they were uh they they went back to canada and when they came they tried to get back in the
united states they were i think denied i see um and it had to do with something that some arrest
from like ages ago and it's like well they had every opportunity to deny the residents
you know the permanent residence status or the green card you know in that time period
because you know those those kind of things have to be renewed every so often and it is also
minor marijuana related convictions in 2004 and 2007 um it's it's so it's really similar
to the other guy i was telling you about yeah yeah and i find that like the most
odd ones and the most ridiculous ones like you're paying for people to okay this guy christopher
didn't get put in ice custody but this is the type of thing that they are doing like i said the guy
from the german in connecticut they're basically just using any excuse to extradite um oh this guy
that you guys were talking about christopher landry the new hamps your permanent resident
he was a green card holder who got denied re-entry from canada in july 2005
it says that he was been living here since age five you said that was in 2005 uh no under 2025
oh yeah did i say 2005 again no it was july 2025 the one exactly when you guys were talking about
i mean that's the kind of thing that's that's extraordinarily messed up that the united states
will extradite somebody who was was here as a child uh and that and now as an adult they're
going to extradite them to some country where they don't even speak the language like that
well i mean i know okay that's not the case with the can i guess it could be if they were in
the french part but well no i mean yeah i mean um but yeah i mean it's like it's it's it's like
some really messed up stuff um you know uh it like even if you can you can just somehow
justify like extraditing like maybe their parents or something like that or how do you how do
how do you justify extraditing somebody as an adult you know who literally has you know grown up
here i mean like that you would think you know the whole the whole you are born here your citizen
well why why not if you've been here as a child for more than a couple of years why are you not
also granted citizenship status right like you should be i i think anyway i mean i don't even think
we should have citizenship ships at all to begin with but yeah yeah it makes sense um that
what's the difference between being born here and being literally like five or less
when you got here like what's the big difference actually you know what i mean it's like kind of
arbitrary well you're you didn't come out of your mother's womb right like here like you lived
here for a long time as a kid and you speak the english language you went to the american
schools how are you not then uh you know how do you not then have citizenship right like
like okay fine maybe you can say you know as somebody as an adult who illegally
immigrated here but that's not what's going on with these minors who have been here there
that are now adults that they're extraditing well i i don't have much else to say about the um
i stuff right now i think we we got a bunch of questions and we want to answer them and
i'm really glad i found that article um and i don't know how much the rest of this will
really be worth reading so i'm not going to it was just like all these people um making their
statements like i said is saying oh this is uh actually we're doing really well we even investigators
often know we're doing really well they're saying in custody deaths this past year averaged less
than one percent the lowest in ice history oh see this is exactly what i'm talking about
so so the death rate hasn't gone up it oh the rate i don't think anyone was claiming that the
rate went up in fact i only wanted to read this more because i wanted to know if the amount
that's exactly the point i was making before about you know people are manipulating things
that trump has done and look i don't like trump right but that doesn't mean we should be manipulating
the facts in order to sway opinion in a way that's deceptive and that's what you're doing when
you're saying well deaths have increased under trump uh you know immigration deaths in ice
facilities have increased under trump well yeah but what is it what is that as a percentage
right because if you're detaining more people and those deaths are all natural deaths or you know
they're the same yeah like we didn't get any info about these four deaths that's that's what kind of
bothers me right and and that's the thing like i i don't like trump i don't think we should be
tainting these people at all i don't i don't oh wait yes we do later in the article but we didn't
so far in the article it's like they didn't start with it no of course not later on the
titles are always the titles and the introductory are always the most manipulative it says the
four detainees who recently died were john i'm not going to read their names i'm sorry because
somebody from a Haitian immigrant a bulgarian immigrant and um a nicaraguan detainee and
somebody from Eritrea as i say Eritrea well anyways they it says that i said two of the men
died of natural causes while the other two had medical complications so two of them died of like
old age or something yeah i mean we don't happen to be and we don't necessarily know the
medical complications um i mean that could be that could have been caused by the tell us you know
yeah that right this is the other problem that we have like medical complications for the rat
poison in their food or right right um everything the government says to you is manipulative
or most of it anyway is very manipulative um you really can't trust what and unfortunately you
can't trust the news either because most of the news that you read is like our like government
press releases basically um that have just been rewritten by a reporter right so you could say
like we're listening to the government about a medical thing and i never like that because it's
like the government can't just buy fiat declare that somebody died of natural causes it's like
what let's say he died in his sleep how do how does the government know he didn't die of the
increased stress of being arrested you know what i mean like oh it's just natural and it
would have happened no matter what even if we didn't arrest him we don't know that you know
that i mean so you can die from complications you know whether you're inside a prison or outside of
a prison so it doesn't right that doesn't really tell us you know whether or not the the reason
that you died from those complications was because you were maybe they withheld a medical
proper medical care or you know i mean if they're or something about they withheld proper
medical care and you died of complications as a result of that well then that's a problem
but it could be also that they didn't withhold medical care and uh they died of complicated you
know help medical complications because you know you know it's it's yeah and it says several of
the dust that occurred this year occurred within days of people being taken into ice so if that's
just natural that is a huge coincidence right but yeah i mean it's it's that's i mean that is
another you know concern that's it's like we're detaining people who have medical conditions
and then not providing proper care it's like like you can't or you shouldn't be arresting people who
are about to go into surgery or about to go you know or in the process of going to the hospital
right like i mean there's something there's something morally wrong about that well i just
found another thing with something morally wrong it says this this is um assistant homeland
security secretary trisha mcwafflin she says there have been no spikes in depth as bed
space has been expanded we have maintained higher standard of care than most prisons that
hold us citizens including providing access to proper medical care why are you bragging about that
we shouldn't be uh having prisons in the united states with american citizens
with lower standards of care either you know then the ones people are dying in this is crazy
just just out and admitting that as a way to defend yourself so yeah it's it's it's kind of crazy
the the just the just the i want to use the word diverse that's not probably quite the right word
i'm looking for but um cognitive dissonance no no no like there's there's a wide variety of um
conditions when it comes to prison facilities in the united states yeah that's a good point you can
go to a really nice one or yeah comparatively yeah i mean there's like there's like resort prisons
if you're willing to pay for it even um but at the same time it's there's also you know better
prisons you know conditions and worse prison conditions depending on where yeah it's like
we brought up the valley street thing in new hampshire um it's like a known thing to all new
hampshire people that like oh if you go to jail just go anywhere but valley street you know don't
get arrested we're gonna go to valley and keen actually is a great place to do uh activism
we've always said because keen has uh treasure the treasure uh prison yeah whatever it's called
the jail sorry the treasure jail i don't know and valley street is a jail by the way not a
accidentally makes those words anyway yeah prison is like if you're there for more than a year if they
hold people for more than a year and uh basically you're in a prison but if it's less than a year
then it's in a jail but technically they have people that are in jail for more than a year too
but it's like usually awaiting detention or awaiting sentencing that kind of thing it's
called the sheshire county department of corrections well we call up the sheshire spiritual
retreat and um the uh one of the things about it is though is the conditions are
actually decent um you know relatively speaking obviously you still don't want to be there but
they're they're relatively conditioned by comparison to some place like manchester with valley street
the jail there is is and you know like being in the underground places under new york city
sounds absolutely horrifying where people get forgotten and stuff yeah new york has some
really bad prisons um i don't know like i don't know if there's any decent prisons
in new york but like or acceptable prison conditions but there's definitely some really
bad ones i am aware of i don't know out west there's some prisons that's just a ranch in the
middle of nowhere yeah you know i just send people out to work like cattle and build fences and you
can't run away because you'll just die the one alice johnson was in in alabama was a similar
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radio network at lrn dot fm from feature story news in san francisco i'm ira spitzer with a look
back at some of the week's top stories the united states launched airstrikes against isis in the
north of nigeria on christmas day us president donald trump said they were to send a message
to insurgents in the country who he claims are persecuting christians fsn's jagruti
david has more from washington donald trump has been threatening military intervention in nigeria
for some time and this was the justification he gave for these strikes which he described as deadly
in a social media post he said isis terrorists scum have been targeting and viciously killing
primarily innocent christians he added merry christmas to all including the dead terrorists
of which there will be many more if their slaughter of christians continues us africa
command said their initial assessment is that multiple isis terrorists were killed in isis camps
the strikes were coordinated with the nigerian government whose foreign minister said they
shared intelligence with the us india in bangladesh summoned each other's envoys over protests
outside their diplomatic missions as already tense ties spiral the latest round of formal
protests come after right-wing groups staged protests in several indian cities
over the killing of a hindu garment worker in bangladesh over allegations of blasphemy fsn's
kshitij nagar has more from new delhi the summoning of the indian high commissioner by bangladesh
is the second such instance in as many days bangladesh officials raised objections
over protests and what they described as a failure to curb demonstrations
and targeting its diplomatic missions the high commission in delhi remains under
heavy police deployment with security tightened and police forces deployed the killing of a hindu
man in northern bangladesh earlier in the month triggered public anger in india and sharpened
concerns over minority safety indian authorities say they are closely tracking developments the
escalation comes amid a broader political uncertainty in bangladesh following the
former prime minister sheik hasina earlier this year us president trump announced a new
type of battleship set to be used by the us navy and it is one named after himself fsn's
mitch mccann reports standing beside the defense secretary and the secretary of state donald trump
announced that the us will build two new trump class battleships mr trump told reporters on
monday he is calling them the golden fleet and said eventually there'll be 25 of them
mr trump said the new ships will have 100 times the force and power of any other battleship
ever built and then there will be nothing else like them the president said that the us has
not built a battleship since 1994 and said each one will be the largest in the history of the
world he said they will command respect but added that the world already respects america
mitch mccann new york from bureaus worldwide this is fsn the us confirmed it carried out
a strike on an alleged drug smuggling boat killing one person along with the seizure of another
venezuelan oil tanker over the weekend it continues the pressure campaign against venezuela's
president nicolas maduro fsn's nick harper reports from washington the us military
confirming that it had killed what it called one narco terrorist had released footage of that
strike with the us southern command confirming on x that it had carried out the attack upon the
direction of defense secretary pete hegseth it said the boat had been transiting along
known narco trafficking routes but all of this is venezuela has called for an urgent
meeting at the u.n security council to push back on what it's called the aggression of the
united states china and russia both coming out with strong support for caracas with china
saying that the us was in serious violation of international law with its continued actions
against venezuela its oil tankers and alleged drug smuggling boats i'm nick harper in washington
a car bomb killed a top military official in moscow fsn's daria bondurchuk reports from the
russian capital a car bomb exploded in southern moscow on monday killing general fanil sarvarov
he headed the operational training directorate of the russian army's general staff the top
military official was blown up in the parking lot of his apartment building reportedly minutes
after he sat in his car and traveled just a few meters he became the third person of his
rank to be killed in car bombing incidents over the past 12 months russia's investigative
committee says lieutenant general sarvarov was killed in explosion possibly orchestrated
by ukrainian intelligence services daria bondurchuk moscow that was a look at some of the week's top
stories iris spitzer reporting after decades of searching the cosmos today nasa announced that
what it was really looking for was right here on planet earth all along for years we foolishly
chased after comets moons and stars outer space may be beautiful but it's not as beautiful as the
child nor is sublime as a good bottle of wine shared among friends our search ends where it began
here on this big blue marble astronomers say that while their telescopes were pointing at mars
they never even noticed the planet that was right in front of them nasa now plans to appreciate
what they already have the agency's latest report entitled wonder is everywhere finding the beauty
in the everyday calls for further study of the little things that truly give life meaning
warm rain on a summer day the smell of pine trees touching the worn paper of your favorite book
that's what's always made us happy not some asteroid a million miles away
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and you can bring up whatever's on your mind just just recently i was listening to a video where
somebody talked about um a call to coast to coast it was a youtube video about this call to coast
back when art bell was in charge of it and how people there's conspiracy theories that it's what
got him taken off the air like got him taken out and um i left a comment i was like oh people because
the guy in the article or in the video was like oh i just miss radio like this and i was like radio
like this exists you can call into free talk live about anything i mean you can still call into
coast to coast but i don't even know i i don't know the specifics about coast to coast uh like
if they'll just let anyone on is what i'm saying like oh if there's not like a screener i don't know
i don't even know that's like or if he just does interviews like every time i've listened to coast
to coast because it's still a thing like i've listened to coast to coast on and off every
once in a while never like as much as i listened to free talk live but um it was always like an
a person that was on to talk about it like not just calls like the art bell thing was just
like people calling in and that was so fun and and cool like i didn't watch that was obviously
before my time too i'm pretty sure that he was like the 90s or maybe like early 2000s when art bell
stopped being on but i mean i was live but i wasn't listening to yeah i wasn't listening to talk radio
back then yeah but um with you on the free on free talk live you've got me bonnie angelo and
mr penguin and mr penguin you brought in an article that's gonna have a lot of words uh in the
in the title wish pile explained to people the supreme court is debating whether isp can isp
providers or internet service providers can kick people off for piracy yeah and this isn't the piracy
like on the high seas yeah there's no actual um deprivation of um anything going on in these cases
that they're talking about downloading uh music movies that kind of thing um from the internet
from a source where basically a copyright holder isn't getting a cut um so um yeah so
basically this is a huge huge huge case um it involves a liability for isp's and her service
providers and whether or not they have to you know kick you off the internet um if they if they're
informed that you might be pirating uh doing some sort of piracy um now this is based on
mere accusation not some sort of evidence or court so um it would be one thing if it was
a court saying okay you've been convicted of this now you now that now the internet service
provider has to kick you off nope all that has to happen is somebody has to make an accusation
against you oh like a neighbor can make an accusation against you uh i mean generally it's
going to be some sort of copyright holder um you don't have to make an accusation against you
but yeah a neighbor could potentially do it too i mean all it requires is somebody to basically
email your isp with your ip address and make a claim that you pirated something um and
what does the isp know the isp doesn't know what you're doing with your internet can i mean they
they could look at i mean maybe they could look into it but the point is that if you're not
currently pirating something the isp isn't necessarily going to know what you did yesterday
right so they can't even evaluate whether or not the claim you know is valid or invalid right
yeah it's crazy right yeah i would have thought that they have that all
like documented and everything like everything you do no all they all they're gonna get
is is a accusation and it might say you know something was being shared with such and such
application on this port on this date but if that's not actually ongoing the isp can't verify it
right it's just an accusation now if if you're still doing it maybe they can verify it but if
you're not still doing it they can't verify that um and it's not necessarily the case that
they can verify it anyway because that means they also have to have some sort of application
to be able to verify it right um it's not like there there's all sorts there's thousands of
different types of applications protocols out there on the internet it's it's unreasonable to
expect that the an internet service provider has every single type of program and application
where they're going to be able to go and check to see whether or not you know even even if
you were still going and still doing it right still pirating something um anyway so here's
this is the title of the story spring court um so i actually swapped out one story for another
this one's from torrent freak uh these other one was even longer of the us though right this is the
us spring court yep supreme court can isps be liable for piracy by doing nothing so um here goes uh
can an isp be liable for piracy simply by doing nothing yesterday's supreme court addressed this
billion dollar question so basically uh cox is an isp that was sued and held uh getting
convicted basically at multiple levels um on appeal basically they were convicted and
eventually it's hit the supreme court now and they're saying we we knew that people were
pirating on our network but we didn't know about any specific instance um and and so
that's that's basically the question while record labels argue that cox turned a blind
eye to habitual abusers the isp warned that expanding liability without proof of an active
internet or i'm sorry active intent would turn internet providers into internet police
not only internet police but uh what what's the phrasing um uh criminals like no uh
prosecution judge both judge and jury judge jury and yeah like prosecutor judge dread no
yeah but there it's like judge it's it's like it's all it's not even that it's the police
it's like a police officer it's like law enforcement a judge prosecutor all in one
and a jury and jury yeah all in one basically the idea is like oh you're making us have to
uh enforce this ourselves piece almost and it's actually not even that it's it's going
beyond that because they don't even get to the isp doesn't even get to decide because if they decide
to not um kick you off and there's an accusation then they'll get in trouble then they're
going to get in trouble and then there's going to be billions of dollars that they're held
liable for that's basically like the whole idea where people were being becoming enforcers
of the state during covid by being uh their their stores were kicking people out and and they were
saying like like in some cases i think in some states they literally would have gotten in trouble
if they weren't kicking people out yeah yeah i don't know if it's i don't know if i'd say that's
similar but um but it's yeah it's it's like it's messed up sure um making you have to enforce
the government's rules and if you don't you get in trouble yeah but it's like it's even
way worse than that um because there's there's no no evidence there's no evidence uh there's no jury
there's no judge you know you know to decide there's no independent a body to decide you know did you
or did you not do what this third party is is accusing you know accusing your customer of
and um if you don't if you decide not to kick them off oh it's judge jury and executioner
that's it yeah okay i was like i didn't know there's like somewhere we were missing yeah
yeah yeah we were meaning like oh you're telling us to yeah but but again this is more than just
judge jury and executioner it's judge jury executioner and law enforcement yeah um because
they want you they basically want you to arrest them and then and then you know judge them and
execute them but there's no there's no judging here going on really if you think about it
because they just want the they just want the arrest part and the execution um they don't want
any kind of you know trial because then or proof of anything right right right right
right uh police and threaten essential access for okay so let me back up a second here um
let's see here uh well record labels argue that the cocks turn a blind eye to habitual abusers
the isp warned that extending liability without proof of active internet or active intent sorry
would turn internet providers into internet police and threaten essential access
for hospitals schools or even entire towns it's actually even worse than this
because there's okay so there's only seven or so companies uh that provide internet access in
the united states they're what are called backbone providers every other isp more or less connects to
one of these seven companies um in order for your like internet to travel through right um to
get from one plate one destination to the other so if they're forced to comply with this rule
they're basically cutting off companies like Comcast and Cox and AT&T well actually AT&T is one
of the backbone providers but the point that I'm making is that your isp is literally going to
get cut off from the internet because one of their customers is pirating like a customer that's
not even you right it's it's it's a downstream customer right so it it's absolutely crazy but
that's basically what the uh entertainment cartel are demanding there's so much info in this article
i'm kind of like probably missing a few things so where with this i this um case where are we at
it's like somebody suit a maybe a record label or something sued some an isp and now they're
in the supreme court the supreme court is actually considering it right now so the
entertainment cartel so the copyright industry hollywood has basically been going around suing
isps cox is one of the early ones that got sued they got found guilty at a trial level at a district
court level they appealed it the appeal court you know found uh cox to basically they upheld the
lower court ruling basically they were guilty still yeah um it's now been appealed to the
us supreme court it's it's something along those lines i maybe there's like other courts or
something in there that i'm not thinking of or i'm not using the right answer my question
yeah for the layman i think they understand what i'm saying all right the supreme court case between
several major record labels so several major record labels and internet provider cox so
that basically they teamed up they um uh what's the word they uh cartel um they cartel up
in order to go after cox communication um okay let's see here's one of the landmark battles
of this decade yeah i mean i i don't even think this is a landmark battle of this decade i
think this is more like a landmark battle of the century here um i mean this is huge i mean
think about it um if your kid pirates somebody or your your friend's kid connects to your internet
and they pirate something um now you get kicked off the internet your whole household gets kicked
off the internet your whole school gets kicked off the internet all because one person yeah your
business gets kicked off the internet um i mean if this goes into effect don't you how would
any court a pulp is you're never going to be able to connect to a wi-fi hotspot anywhere ever again
because think about it that business if you do something if you do something that they that's
piracy and they get accused of piracy that means that they lose their internet connection
they don't it's not just that they can't provide internet service to their customers anymore
they lose their internet connection meaning they can't do business orders right like like how
do you how do you operate without the internet as a business these days you can't um so it
basically ensures that you will not be able to connect to any kind of wi-fi hotspot anywhere um
you know unless you're maybe paying for it basically you know some sort of payment is
going to somebody for it and even then you're not going to be able to do it even even then
you're not going to be able to do it because you're restricted as heck too like yeah yeah i mean
like unless you're an isp and even if you are an isp you're gonna have to lock down not
only are you as an isp you're gonna have to lock down the internet to such a degree
that you can't like do anything like you can't torrent files like torrenting people
think that torrenting is only for piracy but that's not true there's all sorts of torrenting
that's going on for games uh like updates update update like game updates that kind of thing where
terror or gigabyte i don't know about terabytes maybe gigabytes and gigabytes of data not illegal
right not illegal completely legal so like you're the updates the security updates for
your games or the game updates that you get those are all using some sort of torrent type
technology um that's going to be blocked you know all of this stuff is going to be blocked it's
basically going to make the internet unusable at that point because you know short of um you know
a some sort of white list of websites you know um and and think about it like you in theory
you can't even like allow somebody to go on youtube because youtube has content that's
illegal and if you download something from youtube that's illegal and somebody somehow
how sends a you know uh dc d mca you know then you'd have to kick off your customer
you know from the internet basically um i google like some legitimate uses for torrents and it says
um some large scale companies use bid torrent as part of of their dev ops development operations to
quickly deploy your code oh yeah cluster of servers um any large files um it can be or
can be used uh downloaded that way um and it says an example well this one has an example it says
some linux distributions offer bit torrent downloads to save on bandwidth and game companies
like blizzard use it to distribute distribute the game client or patches for their games
torrent is used for anybody or any company trying to distribute large files okay yep that's that's
basically some of it um yeah my company uses torrents you know all the time i mean we we use
both it from a from a customer our customers use it from that perspective and we use it from
that perspective uh to download isos which are basically um um insulate it's installation media
basically for operating system so my my company we um we ship we ship computers um and we have to
get those operating systems somehow and in order to download them well the fastest the best way
to do it is using a torrent so we use a torrent and this is all legal this isn't illegal this
isn't piracy um but basically the courts would you know by making this ruling say well isps can't
allow torrents because you know torrents can be used for piracy um therefore you know um either
you kick them off or again like this all goes back to the big seven i backbone isp providers
they're gonna have to kick off you know the big isp's like comcast and cox and you know
all of these companies that rely on them because they are customers of the backbone
providers and and so it like this literally does not work um it's there's no way that you
can possibly mean no matter how much you walk down this is why it's no way you can make this work
from a technical perspective how to get this far how to get to this yeah i was going to be like
yeah what how are these lower courts upholding these decisions insane yeah i mean it's it's
crazy i mean a lot of you know a lot of this is comes down to bullying i think is what it
ultimately comes down to behavior yeah cartel behavior bullying um and um you know you know at
the end of the day um it basically is going to empower copyright cartels or the entertainment
cartel uh to basically kick anybody they want off the internet anytime they want that's basically
what's going to happen um and um and presumably their isp's are going to have to comply because
if they don't well their business gets shut down because the isp will get sued um into the
ground so yeah i mean it's like yeah i mean even if even if it doesn't get as draconian as
you know it would the the the ruling itself is um it's going to have a massive impact
you know on everybody basically um and it's it's not it's not this isn't the only example
of bullying that goes on um the um the state the state government uh the state governments
basically you know teamed up and they passed these laws on tax collection basically and the
us supreme court upheld the they overturned a prior ruling actually um that said that businesses that
are not in your state um they basically don't normally have to collect sales tax or they didn't
it was a catalog back in the days of catalogs but now any business it doesn't matter where
the business is located in the united states they have to collect sales tax for
10 000 plus different taxing jurisdictions now that's not actually technically possible um because
the taxes are based on the the the shipping address basically but there's 10 000 different
taxing jurisdictions there's no database of addresses that align with what taxing jurisdiction
any given address is in so your your literally every company on the internet today is literally
violating the law as it is written and decided basically by the courts yeah and now you know
you could now we could say oh the internet or the the whole internet is going to collapse
because of it but what actually happens is that the states now have this huge amount of power
to basically bully companies to do what they want yeah enforce it selectively or something
yeah selective enforcement exactly when did that become law um so the supreme court over
it's really weird because the supreme court overrolled a prior precedent so it became a law
when that prior precedent was overturned but the laws themselves don't align with the
precedent because the law prior to that what the federal law prior to that was that states don't
if you don't operate in a state you don't have to collect sales taxes so states have laws
for sales taxes that say if you collect sales taxes you have to have a you have to have
an address in the state well that means that you're going to have 50 different states you're
going to have to set up a business and in order to collect sales tax for well it's not
quite 50 states because all of them have sales tax but you get what i'm saying basically you're
in order to have a customer from any state you have to have a address there yeah so in order
for me to collect sales tax for a good that i shipped to california california law says i have
to set up a business in california before i can collect sales tax but then you're
subject to california tax code at that point for your business so you're gonna have to pay well
the supreme court made me lie made you liable simply because you shipped to somebody in california
yeah i get that but it's saying like you have to open a business there to collect the sales tax
wouldn't that make you also burdened to the other business taxes in california yeah yeah yeah
theoretically so they would just bankrupt you overnight you have to open 50 new this is
what i'm saying like there's all these laws that don't make any sense that they don't work
nothing you know but what but we don't but the point that i'm trying to make here is that we didn't
see the internet retailers go out of business what we saw was basically every single retailer
charging some arbitrary amount of tax that isn't accurate relative to what you're supposed to be
what they're supposed to be paying tax wise start um it's been a couple years now okay well um
but now so in new hampshire we don't see this because we don't have a sales tax in
good shipping into new hampshire so you'll never see in new hampshire a a sales tax at checkout
but every uh almost every other state you're going to now see a sales tax and that sales tax about
isn't going to be accurate um it's yeah it's it's absolutely crazy and you might be wondering
well how do how do brick and mortar businesses do it right well brick and mortar businesses do it
i don't have a problem with this because the tax collections uh the tax laws are only going
to be applicable to where the business is operating so if i go into a staples or a best buy or some
local retailer that store has to know the has to know at most three different taxing jurisdictions
the the laws for three different taxing jurisdictions because it's it's not where the
customer is uh lives that they're the taxes are determined based on it's where the the
goods are sold that it's being determined on but if it's an online retailer that's not the
case it's it's where the customer it lives not where you're shipping from what the that's so stupid
to and the other thing is um i was just having a conversation with people recently and i don't
remember like the topic but it doesn't matter as much i was just saying like this is why we care
about laws even if they're not enforced because the government can just decide
well now we're enforcing it selectively they can shut anybody down so any business they want
to shut down uh you know pretty much any state can stick stick their uh you know tax their irs on
that business that out of state business because some of the goods uh that customers in that or
some of their some of their i don't want to say citizens but it doesn't really they don't have
to be citizens necessarily but people somebody in their state that was in their state received
goods from a business out of state yeah it's it's crazy um and because it's impossible to
comply technically speaking with the tax law they can basically come in and shut you down
or or tax you to death uh basically say you owe this amount of tax but you only collected that
amount of tax and if you collected too much tax well then you've committed another crime
because you've committed some sort of fraud well that's crazy how would that work like if you
let's say like for online ordering if you live like on a border like if i live in massachusetts
but i get my i purchase groceries in new hampshire and i order stuff like to pick up
they've already been trying to do stuff about that like in in uh the convenience stores they all
had to do audits of where they are getting their suppliers from because it's this weird thing where
they're saying like people are um buying cigarettes from other states and selling them in new
hampshire and somehow that's making new hampshire the state lose out on taxes and so they made
them sit down and audit all of where they're getting their every supply from and send
that list to me so yeah i know i only heard about this because we know if somebody that
runs a convenience store and he could give you the better the details more correctly but it's
basically that yeah it's i don't know what's happened in that regard but um yeah it's the
the laws are crazy and the enforcement's crazy and it's arbitrary religious start or a run of
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launched airstrikes against isis in the north of nigeria on christmas day us president donald
trump said they were to send a message to insurgents in the country who he claims are
persecuting christians fsn's jagruti davai has more from washington donald trump has been threatening
military intervention in nigeria for some time and this was the justification he gave for these
strikes which he described as deadly in a social media post he said isis terrorists scum have been
targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians he added merry christmas to all
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bonnie angelo and mr penguin and we are going to get into this article from the hill dot com
it's an opinion piece and it says wait how's an opinion piece okay well maybe no maybe they're
saying like no yeah this is somebody's opinion piece it's a the views expressed by contributors
and are their own and not that of the hill okay we are the free world now it's in quotations
europe declares war on free speech in the u.s and i don't know what that means we are the
free world now what are they saying so it says we are the free world now those words from rafael
gluxman a french social socialist member of the european parliament wow they've just got straight
up socialists on the european parliament or in what even is is that like the the governing body of
the e you is that the european parliament is that what they call them i honestly don't even
people don't understand this but the europe has been very uh you know the communists didn't
disappear the communists are still there um they're just operating under democratic you know a system
basically it says um the european parliament is the directly elected legislative body of the e you
representing e u citizens and sharing law making budgetary and supervisory powers with the council
of the e you so the people in the country vote for their e you yeah they they voted in the communists
they voted in the socialists yeah yeah i get that right yeah but i'm just saying i'm just confused on
how the e you part of i didn't i didn't know it was a parliament me either what ran the european
union i thought it was more of like a un kind of thing but no no no well no i mean they call
it a parliament but the so each individual country okay so the way the e you works is that each individual
so when they pass a law at the e you level it's passed by parliament but then each individual
country has to implement that law basically they have a lot of people in this parliament too
oh sorry did you have more to say no um i i said how many reps do each country get in european
parliament says each e you country gets a different number of members of the european parliament
based on its population so i thought that was going to be like one two three four five says the
minimum of what any like the smallest country only has six in a maximum have 90 seat six seats in
their country totaling 720 m e p's um that's members european and peon parliament for one term
yeah that's a lot which is a five-year term germany has 96 how many how many so there was
did you say it was like 700 something uh seven hundred twenty and that's all of them together
luxembourg and cyprus and malta only have six while germany has 96 france has 81 spain has 61
so if you think about it so the united so in new hampshire has one of the largest
house of representatives in the united states with about 400 reps yep um and so um i think there
is there might be what the what's up what's what is the number of reps at the federal level
it's like i think it might be more than that um but in the house of representatives i think
everybody gets two in that solid right or that that's the house though i'm not sure how many i think
it's like 455 or something right around there yeah so basically yeah you're right in in terms of that
parliament being huge at the edu level but the other thing to remember though is the population
numbers too so um what's the population of europe versus the population of say the united
states um the population of europe is larger than the population of the united states um so
and um i know that new hampshire is 400 right in the house yes but it's a very very small
population yeah there's only 1.6 million people in new hampshire 1.4 million yeah i think it's
like 1.4 i've heard something like like 1.3 1.4 something like that you're represented with
4 000 other people as or was that it like 2000 but yeah i yeah it's something like that
that could be easy math to somebody who can do that and i'm not going to do the math um i just
that's just what i remember i've heard it before and now i'm just realizing that's that sounds a
little off but i don't know anyways um either way so when you're looking at it in a population
density kind of way you have way more people that the way fewer people that are being represented
by one house of representative in new hampshire than anywhere else that i know of you know what
i mean like state country i think we have the largest house um in the country definitely that's
true i've heard that a million times yeah something like that so definitely the the your most well
represented quote-unquote in new hampshire than any other state but i i would be surprised if
there's even another country that doesn't and if you think about like well i'm going to google
what's the entire population of all of europe or e you at least um i don't recall exact
numbers off the top of my head but it's it's larger than the united states i think i would say 800
million to a billion europe 450 million so and i play a european union yeah that sounds about right
and because you might be like forgetting oh like yeah well are you talking about europe or are
we talking about the european union because i put e you specifically yeah so the e you isn't
all of europe technically like russia is part of the e you or i'm sorry part of europe but not
part of russia is part of the europe but not a part of the e you and there's also a few countries
besides uh russia holy bella ruse yeah that are not part of the e you as well but the e you has
disturbingly um taken uh actually it's really scary how many countries the e you has basically
gotten under its control so to speak yeah well people don't understand is that when you join
e you there's all these laws that you have to like abide by and like pass in your own country
and it like a lot of those are really draconian so um like you basically are surrendering your
freedom when you join the e you um 27 countries yeah to be less yeah so that my main point is
you know 450 million people being represented by 700 that that's 700 i guess seems a lot less
surprising when you get to that right yep yep yep yeah so oh man i kind of lost my thing here
where i'm trying to find the article oh the hill okay there we go um so this man we said he his name
is rafael gluxman he said we are the free world world now those words from rafael gluxman a french
socialist member of the european parliament captured the pearl clutching outrage of europeans after
the trump administration did what no prior administration has ever done stand up to
europe to defend freedom of speech this week secretary of state margo rubio barred five figures
closely associated with the european censorship efforts from traveling to the us
whoa you know i didn't hear about that you know the funny thing is that like europe is like
europe loves its censorship but at the same time trump is like basically trying to do
what europe is doing in what way like he's okay so he's blocking people from europe
entering the united states right and there's other countries like i remember um i think it was
australia at one point they they blocked somebody who they didn't like some right wing person they
didn't like from entering the country trump's doing the same thing and it's it's it was politics
basically but i guess this is only specifically they're they're giving mark or sorry uh trump a
and i guess margo rubio too a pat on the back for specifically standing up over freedom of
speech specifically like they barred these people who were coming to
try to censor americans but i don't know who these people are just said these five well i
think i so i'm not 100 sure here but i think if i understand everything that's going on in
the context here um the what's happening is that europe is basically the politicians in europe are
trying to force companies like google and facebook and meda and you know basically you know social
networks to censor their websites um their users content that this is submitted by their users
and trump is saying no we don't we don't like that we don't want you to be censoring americans
because that's what's happening if you start censoring facebook it's not just a platform for
europe it's a platform for the world and europe is trying to basically bully american companies into
not just censoring people in europe but censoring people in united states too effectively yeah it's
crazy um but we do have a call on the line so i'm going to go to uber george in virginia
uber george you're on freetalk live what's on your mind hey um i was listening to show from
last week about you guys were talking about um trump seizing venezuelan oil tankers right there
calling and uh saying it was a bit of piracy and i just came across something that turns out maybe
it's not because apparently when yugo chavez came to power in venezuela and he nationalized all the
oil stuff he took all this property that belonged to american oil companies like exxon and
six oh no and such and um basically apparently they took the government of venezuela the court
saying hey you stole our stuff this is this is not yours that you have no right to it and you know
venezuela lost in court but venezuela um the chavez government was saying that we're not going
to pay that this is ours now and stuff like that and so you mean they took cuba to court is that
no that's venezuela so like when venezuela socialized and they went communist they took a
bunch of oil production equipment from exxon and kicked the u.s companies out and kept all the
infrastructure that was owned by the u.s oil companies so the u.s oil companies took them to
court and was like hey you can't just kick us out and keep all our stuff we got to be able to
take our stuff with us and they've lost so so hold on i don't know if it was all that recent actually
but no but that's what we need to back up and ask the question power what court were they taken
was this a u.s court was this a venezuelan court was this a i think of the international international
court because those are important factors but we do need to back up a moment and say
that's actually not uncommon um lots of countries um basically uh have partnerships with foreign
companies and then at some point you know take over basically 100 control uh Saudi Arabia i think is a
good example of that when they started drilling it was american companies um that and then they had
like a small percentage of ownership it might have been 10 something like that and then it became 50
percent and now it's 100 right so yeah but i think those companies though were you know paid back
or something like that like you know yeah like that's not how that contractually that's not quite
how that works guys so the country in question which has the oil has control right and they get
to dictate the terms now you're as a company you can choose not to do business with them
but if you're already doing business with them you're basically your only choice is to leave
right now maybe the country will you know compensate you for it but maybe they won't
it just depends you are agreeing to operate under that country's laws basically so it's it's
one of these things where you know we may see this as being wrong but again it's not for us to decide
it's it's for that yeah those people international court because when the company's made that agreement
venezuela was under a completely different government and it was before Hugo Chavez took power
essentially yeah so i mean you're what happened with the air you did a Darth Vader
gone i am altering the deal pray that i don't alter it any further yeah i mean you're right
on my question though uber george just to make sure we're talking about the same thing are we talking
about when in 1976 like that era because that says that they nationalized oil assets including
some belonging to us companies at the time well are we are we talking that far back
i'm not sure on that one it didn't say i i i was just what i read online was that it was
saying that um they were taken to international court the court sided with the companies you
know hey you still owe us at least for this money and then now it's been enforced in that that what
comp was doing was you know enforcing that ruling well still taking the random oil tankers and the
same as taking the money you're owed right well that well yes the value of the other tankers
plus the oil within is saying yeah this is your your going it goes towards what venezuela owes you
yeah the problem the problem is that they're violating international law in doing so
i i i get that like there's a disagreement and there's a dispute going on here at an international
level but that doesn't necessarily change the fact that they have um broken the law you know at an
international level um yeah here you're on that but i mean if but if it was an international court
that ruled that venezuela was in the wrong and that they owe them then you know it doesn't
kind of cancel out a little bit on that though i i'm really not so sure that it does i mean
this is something there's something called sovereignty right um and you know international
court doesn't have the right to just arbitrarily decide you know anything um you know in any given
country the the law of the land is is is what's decided by the people of that country um i'm
also just like googling for my life and i can't find anything about any of this like it says ai
overview i think i think i think you might be able to make a better argument that the people of
venezuela didn't vote for um you know you know this president he was he was uh he basically seized
power uh or refused to um uh you know leave when his term ran out and somebody else got elected
so yeah even when i try to go i'm pro war or anything like that although i would not be
sad of you know maduro and you know had him i don't think anybody would be sad here if you know
madura passed away yeah but yeah that you know that still doesn't change like you know things at a
certain level um you know and like i wouldn't i wouldn't take oh let's start a war but maduro
went maduro dies you know and i think there's something else i want him to die that bad there's
also something else to think about here too right so what right did the prior government
have to sell off the oil in the first place right i just happened to have found anything
with ball googling that any of that is actually related it's saying that the us receives tankers
in international waters that they claim are part of a dark fleet used by venezuela to evade us
sanctions so that's why they're saying like i watched them so so that's that's propaganda that's
a hundred percent propaganda that you're right well whether or not that's true or not i haven't
seen them say hey well we're taking this because the an international court said we won and
we're just taking our winnings back that i haven't because that hasn't been that hasn't been in the news
government's money it's really you know exiles and shells which is he's saying he read an article
saying that yeah so no he's he's citing he's citing historic uh you know cases court cases right so
it goes back you know many many decades right he was something that was from 1976 you said
yeah i think so yeah yeah something like that so um i mean that's not surprising um that you're
not seeing or hearing anything about that um and but trump did say something about he's just taking
back something and maybe that's what he's referencing but i don't know i haven't i don't know if i read
that anywhere but it might be what he's inferring to when he says we're taking something we're taking
oil back that's ours or something like that um because he did suggest he did suggest that like
what he was taking like wasn't theft or wasn't a piracy because somehow like yeah it was like it
was ours or something which which didn't make any sense at the time but put it in the
within those contexts oh it makes a little bit more sense see they're not i'm getting something now i
googled like why is trump saying the venezuelan oil actually belongs to him which right right right
that's just like a quick and it says um trump has repeatedly claimed that venezuela stole
oil land and assets and that he starts to belong to the u.s and he wants them back his
rationale nationalization of assets trump refers to the actions taken by the venezuelan
government and a former president of shaves who nationalizes countries oils in 1970s and again
in 2007 during this process american oil companies like exxon mobile and conico phillips had their
assets and oil fields seized or expropriated yep yeah i mean so so this is the problem with this is
that when you enter a country and you do business in a foreign country you take on the liabilities
and the risk of doing business in that country these this um once they nationalized it these
companies had no right to those oil the only reason they had the oil in the first place was
because a prior government um basically sold off those assets but again you're you're subject to the
whim of the people so to speak or the women the ruler and in this particular case the ruler
changed and the ruler decided to nationalize um but it does say that um the u.s companies
pursued legal action through international arbitration and one billions of dollars
in compensation venezuela struggling under economic pressure and sanctions has largely
refused to pay these amounts because it's a sovereign country nobody gets to dictate to regardless of
what international courts say they don't have that much power and uh the sovereign country gets to
decide these things and they and venezuelan uh the leader and venezuelan decided them
yeah says trump has a long history of stating that the u.s should take the oil from other
countries after military engagements such as iraq and syria viewing it as compensation for u.s
efforts or a way to prevent wealth from funding hostile groups this isn't he doesn't care about
yeah so the problem is that you're declaring war you're you're you're literally committing
to an act of war because of private interests in the united states uh that felt that you know
they were they were harmed or wronged in some way on the other hand uh at least it's not like iraq 2003
you know we're not going in with you know yeah yeah that's the key word yeah yeah i mean as long as it
doesn't happen trump trump is trying to do everything to be able to justify to create the circumstances
in which he can justify an invasion and that's just so crazy right because all of us
had always been told trump is like the the choice of peace and he wouldn't you know uh
wars never started any new wars of what they're always saying no but he caused them or he's about
to cause a war whether or not he started them i think some neo i feel like a neocon would say
that's like the job of the government though is to protect us people doing business i mean
yeah you see the problem is that the us only gets to protect us interests within the united
states right like we don't we should not be protecting interests of companies doing business
well the first time we sent the marines anywhere we sent them to like off the coast of Somalia to
protect traitors the united states like that's right so the united states for hundreds of years
has been invading other countries for american corporate i think we have two needs but the
barbaric pirate pirates i'm gonna make the term leatherneck right i'm gonna make the argument
that we shouldn't have been doing that and we should stop doing that yeah that's that's that's
fine but i'm just saying that's like i can see where people are saying this is just status
like this is this is what the u.s. government does it's what they've been doing forever why
should my tax dollars be no i'm not i'm not disagreeing with you i'm just saying this is
go to fund a war in order to secure a way to look some other company's profits or somebody
else's profits that makes no sense profits like they're they're saying that they own the the
oil in another country that anybody should know that any sovereign state owns the oil under
their ground but trump is ultimately at the end of the day yeah until that oil is outside their
country because they used to work there doesn't mean like he owns they he owns it i don't i don't
think it's the oil i think it's the infrastructure that's built by exxon mobile he claimed they
stole venezuela stole from them oil land and assets what literally oil land and assets which
is in the ground anyone's quote back yeah i mean this is this is the look guys i no
matter what the government tells you they have the ability to change the terms of the deal
and venezuela did yeah it's no different when the when the united states does it when the
when the u.s. raises taxes do you get it do you get it just decide oh i just don't want to
pay my no they're gonna come after you if you if you don't pay your taxes um the government
gets to unfortunately for better or worse the government gets these governments get to dictate
the terms whether you like it or not and these corporate interests went into venezuela
and they made a deal and the government decided to change those terms they're probably benefiting
off the corruption in venezuela and then it came to bite them in the butt well yeah they
they benefit from the corruption and then when a different you know uh you know
dictator be gone to power they basically changed the deal they changed the terms
yeah because that dictator wasn't benefiting from it i mean it this people take advantage
they take advantage of the the population look at what happened in russia when went when it
democratic right i mean look at who owns the russia the the oil in russia it's literally like
one of seven i don't even think it's one of seven it's like one or it's like all the oil
in russia is owned by like one guy basically it's something like insane like that there's
seven oligarchs but they i think they have different businesses in different areas like one
owns steel one owns oil like it's it's it's it's crazy right it's crazy i hold to that guy
it's crazy but but you but you kind of that kind of makes you question whether or not
those assets are legitimately owned by these individuals yeah he couldn't possibly go and
defend each each oil well it's not even that but it's it's it's the fact that the the means
at which the assets were acquired in the first place were not legitimate in any sense of the
word so how would it be like if let's say socialists and you know socialists got back
into power in russia why would it be wrong for them to take back the oil for example or take back
the steel you know that was sold off for you know you know pennies on the dot well pennies on the
ruble or whatever the equivalent expression would be right um i'm not arguing for socialism i'm
not doing that at all here guys that's not what i'm saying i'm just saying that you got to
keep things in context yeah well that just well that's kind of what uh that's how people i think
look now because we're in this like his stage of uh like well this is this was our land but before
that it was somebody else's land like how far back are we going until we consider this to be somebody
yeah sure right because you could go all the way back and say that it's not even the benesway
and governments it should go back to like the tribes of the amazon because they were technically
there first uh yeah there's been right so many you know it's annoying when thank you for the
call uber george but the idea that like we're arguing for the government to own the land is
difficult because we're just claiming well this other government has a lesser claim at the very
least at least that's where i'm coming from you i mean i don't think the government should
own the land at all but at the same time you know the way in which this land ends up into people's
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the week's top stories the united states launched airstrikes against isis in the north of nigeria on
christmas day us president donald trump said they were to send a message to insurgents in the country
who he claims are persecuting christians fsn's jagruti davai has more from washington donald trump
has been threatening military intervention in nigeria for some time and this was the justification
he gave for these strikes which he described as deadly in a social media post he said isis
terrorists scum have been targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians he added
merry christmas to all including the dead terrorists of which there will be many more
if their slaughter of christians continues us africa command said their initial assessment
is that multiple isis terrorists were killed in isis camps the strikes were coordinated
with the nigerian government whose foreign minister said they shared intelligence with the us india
in bangladesh summoned each other's envoys over protests outside their diplomatic missions
as already tense ties spiral the latest round of formal protests come after right-wing groups
staged protests in several indian cities over the killing of a hindu garment worker in bangladesh
over allegations of blasphemy fsn's kshitij nagar has more from new delhi the summoning of the indian
high commissioner by bangladesh is the second such instance in as many days bangladesh officials
raised objections over protests and what they describe as a failure to curb demonstrations
and targeting its diplomatic missions the high commission in delhi remains under heavy police
deployment with security tightened and police forces deployed the killing of a hindu man in
northern bangladesh earlier in the month triggered public anger in india and sharpened concerns over
minority safety indian authorities say they are closely tracking developments the escalation comes
amid a broader political uncertainty in bangladesh following the ouster of former prime minister
earlier this year us president trump announced a new type of battleship set to be used by the us
navy and it is one named after himself fsn's mitch mccann reports standing beside the defense
secretary and the secretary of state donald trump announced that the us will build two new
trump class battleships mr trump told reporters on monday he is calling them the golden fleet
and said eventually there'll be 25 of them mr trump said the new ships will have 100 times
the force and power of any other battleship ever built and in there will be nothing else like them
the president said that the us has not built a battleship since 1994 and said each one will
be the largest in the history of the world he said they will command respect but added that the
world already respects america mitch mccann new york from bureaus worldwide this is fsn
the us confirmed it carried out a strike on an alleged drug smuggling boat killing one person
along with the seizure of another venezuela oil tanker over the weekend it continues the pressure
campaign against venezuela's president nicolas maduro fsn's nick harper reports from washington
the us military confirming that it had killed what it called one narco terrorist it released
footage of that strike with the us southern command confirming on x that it had carried out
the attack upon the direction of defense secretary pete hegseth it said the boat had been transiting
along known narco trafficking routes but all of this as venezuela has called for an urgent meeting
at the un security council to push back on what it's called the aggression of the united states
china and russia both coming out with strong support for caracas with china saying that the
us was in serious violation of international law with its continued actions against venezuela
its oil tankers and alleged drug smuggling boats i'm nick harper in washington a car bomb killed a top
military official in moscow fsn's daria bonderchuk reports from the russian capital a car bomb
exploded in southern moscow on monday killing general fanil sarvarov he headed the operational
training directorate of the russian army's general staff the top military official was blown
up in the parking lot of his apartment building reportedly minutes after he sat in his car and
traveled just a few meters he became the third person of his rank to be killed in car bombing
incidents over the past 12 months russia's investigative committee says lieutenant general
sarvarov was killed in explosion possibly orchestrated by ukrainian intelligence
and services daria bonderchuk moscow that was a look at some of the week's top stories iris spitzer
reporting for the past several years now area woman katelyn mooney has been convinced that each
and every one of her friends should be a professional comedian our reporters spoke to katelyn this
morning about her quote hilarious group of friends karen is so funny like i can't even explain it
she's always just saying whatever on her mind she has this totally sassy attitude you just can't
help but laugh my roommate raised me she always has these hilarious stories that i mean they're just
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can get in on the conversation with us like uber george did and bring up whatever's on your mind
and i at least i love that i brought up a whole new topic than what we're talking about and
taught me something i didn't know before in fact i i remember one of the things they were talking
about when they seized that oil tanker was that they were saying well really it's just ours
anyway but i i didn't know what their reasoning was i still think it's flawed reasoning i'm
but you would have had to hear you would have had to hear uber sorry i usually mute you guys while i
open the show because i have this tree didn't i just need everybody to like let me get that out
but i forgot and i censored you guys yeah no worries definitely lives all i was saying yeah
no i agree with you i was just i was just playing devil's advocate i was just saying that
from their worldview which is a flawed worldview right i'm not disagreeing with you but that's
just how they're gonna justify it to the masses you're saying it was nothing new yeah like
this isn't new this is we this is just a playbook so another in things that are somewhat new the the
european union has been we've actually covered multiple different articles about this the european
union has been doing many things to try and make their censorship laws apply to americans
and people in other countries well i guess american companies is the big part because they
want to like find they don't want to find uh like the user they want to find twitter for letting
the german man see the tweet that they're not allowed to think they want to do both
actually gone and find people or arrested people i'm really not sure but that's not over the EU
law that's over british law yes okay okay this is true but there's not there's not that much
difference between british law and like EU law like they were literally one in the same
like like i'm not going to have a and they're both doing the similar similar things as an EU police
officer going to show up to the tech the man in texas's house and try to give him a fine for
tweeting something no that's why they want to go through the x that allows the german man no i
i'm just saying i'm not sure that they're only doing that they might be wanting to do the problem
is they're unable to do that right so they're much more easily able to um coerce american
companies because the american companies also operate in europe the the man in texas
may never even leave the united states so trying to you know find him when the fight when they
have no means of enforcement of those fines because the u.s courts aren't going to enforce
EU fines unless there's an equivalent u.s law that's going to be impossible to achieve right
yeah that's what i'm just saying they're going they're not going after americans
they're going after american companies well they're going after americans through american
yeah yeah it says that um we already covered in the last segment that marco rubio borrowed these
five officials um who wanted to travel to the united states and he borrowed them from the
and they're closely associated with european censorship but he doesn't say who they this
doesn't say who this they are it says this includes theory brett brettan a former european
union commissioner responsible for digital policy but it doesn't say who the other four
people were in a post on x marco rubio declared that the u.s will no longer tolerate these egregious
acts of extra territorial censorship and will target leading figures of the global censorship
industrial complex from entering the united states i have a feeling and i don't know if i read this
or not but he may be one of the or one of those people may be uh one of the people behind
like the gdpr um like one of the leading figures behind that which is to say some more about him
i don't know what gdpr is gdpr is what the general data regulation protection act something like that
um it basically is a is a really really bad law that is it like the one from like two years ago
it's even older it's even older than that i think um it's not that old but it's it's maybe four
or five i think at this point um but anyway yeah no it's it's one of these laws that like they
basically like us websites are like especially like news websites even like the hollywood reporter
for example they they're blocking all of europe because it basically requires you to jump through
all of these hoops uh in order to like serve your information to like e u customers and stuff
oh yes this is what i'm thinking of i just didn't know its name yeah like um like for example um
if you put up a product page in french uh the the european government might consider you
advertising to people in france and therefore they consider you to be in your jurisdiction in
their jurisdiction sorry even though you're a u.s company that doesn't operate outside the
united states you might ship outside the united states where you're canadian
see that seems crazy yeah like either way it's just yeah so they're trying to enforce their
jurisdiction on companies outside of europe basically so it would apply to a canadian
company shipping into europe as well so this guy breton his name is theri it's like terry but
it's with a th terry breton achieved infamy as one of the architects of the massive e u
sensor sorry censorship system which is now being globalized armed with the notorious
digital service act breton and others threatened american companies and officials that they
would have to yield to european standards of free speech after breton learned that musk was
planning to interview trump before the last presidential election he even warned the x
owner that he would be monitored and potentially subject to e u fines the e u is not a fan of
free speech they have been trying to crack down as much as they possibly can even like
rating german houses um over internet they're they're doing they've done all sorts of terrible
things in europe when it comes to you know speech from outlawing or indirectly outlawing things
like tour that provide privacy and ability for people to anonymously communicate things that may
you know it may not be popular for example um to um just like yeah things like the gdpr
which is sort of like indirect censorship basically um by forcing absurd you know regulations on
companies yeah and by the way i said ship into europe before i shouldn't have said that
because that makes because at that point you may actually have to comply with some sort of
regulation but when you're a company like the hollywood reporter which is literally just a news
website and writing articles for it you shouldn't have to comply with european law just because
you maybe published some articles in french there's there's like there's people outside of
france right that might be reading your content like maybe the canadians um there's a large
french canadian population right um but the european government with the gdpr basically
tries to try to tries to basically coerce you into complying with their laws um through fines
and things that probably aren't enforceable against you as a u.s company but nonetheless um
you know based off of things like you know what language you you know or what currency you
you advertise in or you know all that kind of thing yeah so it says that the guy at the
very beginning that we said he said the quote we are the free world now whatever the heck that means
it just it's absurd it's it's just such an absurd statement it um goes on to talk about more
things that says he said socialist gluck gluck's man that's his name the a french socialist one
of the most more deadly socialists in the world by country um not him himself but you know
french socialists pretty deadly he is now irate at this scandalous sanction against terry britain
we are europeans he declared we must defend our laws our principles our interests in other words
this is a war over whether europe or the u.s constitution will dictate the scope of free
speech for american companies and citizens britain and his colleagues are finally being
treated as what they are a clear and present danger to the indispensable right that
defines all americans the e u has been enlisted by anti free speech figures in the u.s to force
companies like x and facebook to oh wow so u.s like figures that hate free speech have been
going to e u to get them to enforce this to force companies like x and facebook to restore
censorship of americans france literally kidnapped uh tell the founder of telegram
oh yeah yeah how long ago was that uh like this year yeah um and months right holding them hostage
do they still have him yeah yeah they still have him wow i mean he's been allowed to leave the
country um but yes um for short stints but yeah he's required to return every so often so what if
we just go somewhere that doesn't extra night and they help well yeah that's that's a possibility
um but yeah i mean basically that the problem the problem is that a lot of these people
they want to be able to travel right yeah and if you travel to any country that has a treaty with
france uh that country may extra got you to france i like how well isn't the french the ones who got
john mackafee yes i think so no that was pain wasn't it he at least killed himself in spain
maybe that's where they first got him but i do want to go to this caller unscreened caller
you're on free talk live what's on your mind oh this is a max max from manchester hello what's
on your mind max from manchester uh so at least in new hampshire where we are organizing the
republican liberty caucus um they're they're way ahead of us in some other states um but for people
live in uh new hampshire anywhere near new hampshire in new england you can uh come visit us we're
doing a weekly meetup at strange brew in uh manchester every sunday at 420 awesome so every
sunday at 420 unfortunately that does um conflict with social sunday but wait where is it against
strange brewing in actually people could get back but there's always the idea that like oh well if
we're in a at a protest on a sunday in manchester we won't make it back for social sunday but we
could always tend um your what are you calling it again uh what's that what are you calling the
event again um it's just the republican liberty caucus meetup it it's um it's right before the
bitcoin meetup at five o'clock so let's be some overlap there but lots of states are reorganizing
i did want to mention also um if it's all right to jump to a different topic yes that's fine
so um you know how i guess it's peter teal has like five billion dollars or something in his
roth ira i've never heard that putting well fidelity and a few others are letting um
you can put your more aggressive um investments if it's like money in your bank money that you
have lying around your post tax dollars you can put into your roth ira and people are buying
um crypto i have uh bitcoin ethereum salana and other stuff in my roth ira and fidelity
and even if it grows like 10 times or 50 times or something like that um
drill about a roth ira is that you don't um have to pay capital gains tax and it doesn't
have requirement on distributions and it's a lot more flexible than other types of ira like a 401k
so i believe you still have to pay tax on that when you take the money out you just have to pay
the capital gains right so that's a 401k but a health savings account and a roth ira um actually
the health savings account is probably a better like all-around deal but it's it's hard to get
crypto into an hsa but you can have like you could just get like $7,000 worth of ethereum every year
you could um dollar cost average like uh 150 a week from your paycheck directly into your roth ira
and just keep buying ethereum or salana or litecoin or whatever you want to buy
and like i say if it goes up 10 times or 50 times by the time you retire
you can just pull it out and it's 100 tax free because um congress figures that you've already
paid taxes on it initially and because the limitation on it is only 7 000 year going in i think it's
going up to 7500 a year next year um and if you're turning 50 the year that you turn 50 i think it
goes up by another thousand dollars so you can put like another like 8500 a year or something
like that into it um it is kind of a loophole it is kind of a hack but lots of people who
just have like maybe 5 10 15 percent of their portfolio is in crypto they're using their
roth ira to do the whole thing just in case you know they pick one that goes up 50 times
and they don't want to pay taxes on it when they retire so they'll just like pull it out when
they're 55 60 years old and uh be able to retire early well that's nice so is this something new
or something is that way you're telling us that like is that like some new or you're just saying
like oh well this is a kind of way to get away the cap away from doing the capital gains taxes
on the case for a while hasn't it um it has been but um fidelity has added more options
i think that vanguard lets you do it now i mean so so one of the things that you you're doing
here though is you're surrendering control you're not in control of those that crypto
that's a good point like the controlling the crypto yeah i mean i i get why people are
doing it for tax reasons um but at the same time it is something i also think people
need to be wary of because as soon as you uh you know do something like this the government has
something they can seize from you um whereas if you have crypto in a wallet they can try and
seize it right it's all custody wallet that is they can see they can try and seize it
but it's a heck of a lot harder for them to actually do so i still think it's pretty good
information for someone who is looking to you know cash out their crypto without having to
pay capital gains but i i don't know didn't didn't the genius act to make it less it's
only it's certainly it's certainly i think uh individually it's it depends on what your
circumstances are right like yeah ultimately but i mean it's a lot of us have like you'll have like
some people have like some in their wallet they'll have like a laptop an old laptop that
still has some crypto here and there um and people looking kind of looking for ways to kind
of max out and um you can actually do a Roth conversion so if you have a bunch of money
in your 401k you can chunk over like seven thousand dollars a year three thousand dollars
a year into your Roth IRA and uh you know take a bunch of like slow moving underperforming stocks
tons of people have money in their 401k um you can go to your financial advisor attack
prepare and move that money on your four into your Roth IRA and now you can buy um you can
buy crypto with money that's just kind of sitting there again three four five six percent
i think i think i think you make some uh interesting um i think these are some very
interesting investment vehicles but at the same time you're also talking to a bunch of
libertarians who that don't trust the government at all so i do gotta ask you about to bring that
back are you part of the libertarian arm of this republican libertarian meetup
so the republican liberty caucus is kind of like a more of a big tent it includes like
constitutionalist libertarians um some kind of like you know absolutely minimal government
reformers school choice folks one issue folks but mainly the a lot of it's like the third
parting movement they've tried and tried and tried to get on the ballot in hampshire i had ballot
access legislation in when i was in the legislature and both parties were just like a hundred
percent against it and they just they hated the idea of third parties and they felt like it just
kind of screwed everything up but you still have independence and third party's getting on a ballot
so with the rlc we can kind of take on like uh big government prohibitionist rino neil khan
whatever and in the state primary which is what i did win the primary and then go take on the
democrat kind of just do it like one you know one you know opponent at a time it gives you
like it's it's an uphill battle still but you can take one you you take on one in the
republican primary in september eighth and then you take on the other one november third
yep that i mean that all makes sense to me and and it's just like kind of the more big tent
like the all my actual question was are you currently a house i mean uh yeah a representative
no i'm getting asked believe it or not people are asking me to run for state senate and state
house at the same time um i'm not sure if i want to run again right away it is kind of
it's it's it's kind of expensive to eat stuff a lot of time yeah it's really hard to get ledges
it's it's a lot easier to add a new law than to take an old one away and i spent a lot of years
trying to like reduce penalties and protect your rights and get criminal justice reform
stuff through and it's really hard to get like the good stuff through yeah yeah no doubt well
thank you and it sounds like a good meetup for like being able to meet those us i mean on
new hampshire representatives that you want to talk to you like if you have a bill idea and
stuff like that so thank you for sharing that with us you know the thing we should we should
you know if we really want to get correct cause chaos we need to get rid of the r's and the d's
next to the names on the um on the polls when people go to vote basically just the polls
oh you know when you people go to the polls they they get they see a d or an r next to the
network maybe an l yeah that would be like well we'd have to remove a whole bunch of stuff
and thank you so much but if you get rid of that nobody we know who to vote for because
everybody votes based off the party line and they don't know who the candidates are so you
cause some serious chaos that would be awesome but i don't know all kinds of things i don't know that
that would be good for libertarians or not but it certainly would make for even more chaos than
already exists well i i mean i don't really think that anybody's gonna do it one but also
oh i don't think it has a chance yeah there's more things that would have to be removed from
that as well i think because like right now there's even like you can press a button in
some places where you just vote down party lines did you know that because i did that in in
utah maybe it's not a new hampshire thing at all i did it in utah when i first voted for
trump yeah i don't i've i haven't seen that yeah and i didn't i didn't even know anything about
the other people running i was just like obviously i'm gonna go vote republican i mean we got
we have paper we have paper ballots in new hampshire which is pretty cool yeah that's true
well back to the stuff we were talking about before
were basically censorship from the united's i mean from from europe this time you know
it's funny like marco rubio getting to tweet that and stuff like that they want to make themselves
look like oh the united states we care about free speed you know but the government the united
states the government people the government goons and killers and right thieves they don't really
care um it's just you know a political thing for them at any point in time it says uh
the the eu has been enlisted by anti free speech figures in the us to force companies like x and
facebook to restore censorship of americans after musk brought twitter or sorry bought twitter with
a pledge to restore free speech protections hillary clinton called upon european officials to force
him to censor under europe's digital services act i don't i didn't hear about that that's
horrible nina that's another one of those bad uh laws for sure nina jankovic the former head of
biden's infamous disinformation governance board appeared before the european parliament she called
upon the 27 eu countries to fight against the us whoa uh which she described as a global threat
white she did she's part of the biden's board in the u.s government and she's going to the
european parliament and saying that the united states is a global threat so please fight against us
that's crazy you know it's funny is wasn't it wasn't it the democrats who are going after the
libertarians calling us um what was the word domestic terroristic no it wasn't that um
but but it was close um do you remember uh dissidents oh maybe it was this yeah yeah
they're calling us like dissidents or something like that because we were vote what
would we try to do we try to get a law passed to declare independence in new hampshire
oh you mean just in new hampshire yeah when we tried to declare independence in new hampshire
no it wasn't it's the word that means a seditious sedition right talk about seditious
yeah that's a good point that's exactly what that seems like yeah it almost sounds like not even
sedition that it's almost like outright treason going to another government and being like hey
can you yeah can you hurt the place i'm from thank you that i represent you right right democrat
it's hillary clinton right democrat right no it was actually in this case is nina jankovic but
who's uh hillary clinton called upon the european union officials to force ilan musk to censor
her that's different yeah well either way i mean if it's if we're talking about the democrats
doing this it sounds very very hypocritical it really does so the e you and these enthusiastically
took up the challenge when they asked for it this year i spoke in the berlin world forum
which boosted the slogan a new world order with european values whoa bill and hillary clinton and
other americans cheered on the european efforts the digital the digital services act bar speech that
is viewed as disinformation or incitement which would definitely be us oh yeah when it was passed
over the condemnation well incitement to not engage or uh obey i presume the incitement
is more broad than incitement to violence because we obviously don't incite violence right exactly
i wanted that's what you're what you're referencing yeah they'd be like they're inciting people to not
obey our edicts and yeah that's exactly what they would call it when it um when the digital
services act was passed over the condemnations of many of us in the free speech community
european commission executive vice president margaret vestiger celebrated by declaring that
it is not a slogan anymore that what is illegal offline should also be seen in dealt with as illegal
online now it is a real thing democracy is back what are you talking about nothing can be illegal
online in the sense that the entrant is the world more free talk live coming up 603 2836 160
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of the week's top stories the united states launched airstrikes against isis in the north of nigeria
on christmas day us president donald trump said they were to send a message to insurgents in the
country who he claims are persecuting christians fsn's jagruti davai has more from washington
donald trump has been threatening military intervention in nigeria for some time and this
was the justification he gave for these strikes which he described as deadly in a social media post
he said isis terrorists scum have been targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians
he added merry christmas to all including the dead terrorists of which there will be many more
if their slaughter of christians continues us africa command said their initial assessment
is that multiple isis terrorists were killed in isis camps the strikes were coordinated with the
nigerian government whose foreign minister said they shared intelligence with the us india in
bangladesh summoned each other's envoys over protests outside their diplomatic missions as
already tense ties spiral the latest round of formal protests come after right wing groups
staged protests in several indian cities over the killing of a hindu garment worker in
bangladesh over allegations of blasphemy fsn's kshitij nagar has more from new delhi the summoning of
the indian high commissioner by bangladesh is the second such instance in as many days
bangladesh officials raised objections over protests and what they describe as a failure
to curb demonstrations and targeting its diplomatic missions the high commission in delhi
remains under heavy police deployment with security tightened and police forces deployed the killing
of a hindu man in northern bangladesh earlier in the month triggered public anger in india and sharpened
concerns over minority safety indian authorities say they are closely tracking developments the
escalation comes amid a broader political uncertainty in bangladesh following the
formal prime minister sheik hasina earlier this year us president trump announced a new
type of battleship set to be used by the us navy and it is one named after himself fsn's
mitch mccann reports standing beside the defense secretary and the secretary of state
donald trump announced that the us will build two new trump class battleships
mr trump told reporters on monday he is calling them the golden fleet and said eventually
there'll be 25 of them mr trump said the new ships will have 100 times the force and power of any
other battleship ever built and then there will be nothing else like them the president said that
the us has not built a battleship since 1994 and said each one will be the largest in the
history of the world he said they will command respect but added that the world
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603 283 6160 and we have had many different things talked about in the in the in the
in the interim between the two segments i was bringing up did you know which state
is the only one state that has made cannibalism illegal i just learned this and it's
i don't know and you might think oh maybe it was you know like they heard about the
donor party eating each other no it was in the 1980s they just need to clarify it's not legal
to murder somebody in order to cannibalize them yeah yeah you have to wait until they die and then
once it comes out of them the morgue i guess then you can eat them but even then i don't
consider like desecration of a corpse isn't that probably not just like enough rules that
make it like it would probably be essentially illegal and yeah there are so many ways but
actually there are there this is the thing in some some states this is what i heard i heard
this whole video about it you can eat human meat but you have to buy it for some from some
you have to buy it from some other like first of all there has to be like a third party here
and you buy it from that company and i don't remember oh man i'm i'm missing like the
caveat i was about to get into a human or horse meat no human meat that's i don't even understand
how the long port because like the person like agreed to be part of it or something like that so
like when they died of natural circumstances yeah exactly so wait could you what about oh my gosh
what if you get what if you get hooked up with the canadian company that kills people like the
assistants and dying the maids yeah so you can just buy depressed people's meat and then sell it
bodies and they eat it yeah because they and they just sign it away anyways because what do they
care they're killing themselves i i'm sorry but like i just can't imagine anybody soiling green
dude yeah that's horrifying um i did want to bring up this thing that we probably should have
brought up closer to the ice conversation because like we already did talk a lot about
the ice stuff we already had to say i mean actually angelo uh came in in the second segment
maybe he hasn't got to say everything he was interested in saying about it but this from media
no media ight well i i don't even know how the heck you'd say that media ight um dot com
the tsa is giving the names of all air travelers to ice you have some weird websites when you get
your news off drudge it's like you click on it and then all of a sudden you're on media ight
dot com i thought some meditate no it's media ight dot com um the transportation security
administration is providing immigration and customs enforcement with the names of
all travelers passing through american airports that's pretty that's pretty crazy the tsa has
submitted lists of names to the immigration agency multiple times a week since the program began
in march the new york times reported on friday but this is a bit older of an article i held on
to it's december 12th so um ice then checks travelers information against its own internal
list of those subject to deportations though the number of those deported due to this program is
unknown documents obtained by the times show that at least two high-profile arrests were
carried out based on tsa's information one was this woman's name is not a me it's a any any i
um maybe it's annie maybe that's why i say a and y annie lucia lopez belowza the college student
arrested at boston logan airport while traveling to visit her family for thanksgiving this was
another crazy one because she was like been in america all her life too well let me let me let me
make sure i understand this correctly so we all have to surrender our privacy because of two
high-profile arrests yeah i guess so then again it's unknown how many have been i how
how do people justify this in their head that like support government and i don't get this this one
the annie lucia lopez belowza one is like when you read about that it's crazy it's like the story
is crazy too yeah yeah it's like no one would want it yeah you know well not no one but i bet a
majority of americans don't want people like her deported is what i'm trying to say yeah right right
right um so the college student arrested at boston logan airport while traveling to visit
her family for thanksgiving she was met by immigration officers at her gate and deported
to honduras two days later it's so scary um it's just scary to be like a 18-year-old girl or
whatever deported and and she's from here like i read the it's not explaining the rest of this it
says i'm sorry wait what she's from here that's what i'm saying like she was born in honduras
but she immigrated here and it's very young and she's just a college student yeah this this is
exactly what i was talking about earlier in the show it's i don't i don't understand how people
can like hold up signs and support trump and uh you know and it's not just trump but yeah i mean
like it doesn't matter whether it's biden or you know whoever is in power these these people are
scum she was 19 it says that um it talks about how that i brought up a scene in an
article to see like how old is she uh she was but has been in the united states and she was
seven years old when her parents brought her here to a seek asylum and um she was deported
even after federal judge issued an order barring the government from removing her yeah this was such
a weird thing i read about this one in particular are they still doing the um the the whole
see i thought they stuck okay so supposedly they were ordered to stop extraditing people
that were like not allowed to be extradited because of judges orders right well she
i think just was this before that happened uh i don't know what she had a visa she's been here for
since she was seven right so it's like a long it's a long time it's like over 10 years
oh here's what is not a visa so in 2014 an immigration judge ordered her removal but she
just stayed in the country illegally instead so like you can get an article i mean uh uh
sorry not article you can get a letter in the mail it says you must come to the courthouse
and you're going to be deported yeah you can just not go to the courthouse right so i guess that's
what she did i got you but that was 2014 and she's only 19 now so like she had to be really young then
um so wait when she was 14 she got no she wasn't 14 if she was 19 now she was born in the letter
when she was 19 no wait no when did you get the letter in 2014 but she's 19 now so i don't know
how many nine nine she got a letter for maybe her parents got it but you know i'm saying
she was ordered from the judge i'm following it i'm following i guess her asylum was denied
and they were ordered to leave i guess the whole family was and they didn't see this is the messed
up part it's like these are minors that we're talking about they never had any they never had
any ability to influence any of this in the first place so what right do we now have to
extradite them i mean this is just this is just messed up um well were her parents
deported in 2014 or are they still in the country i haven't found anything the other thing
probably are still in the country but the children were extradited but the or deported
but the the parents were not i was just thinking maybe if the parents got deported
previously and she like stayed in the country with family or something and grew up and tells
now that she's past 18 the government can come after her she never had any control over any of
this in the first place it was some adults who had control and this is all because of the law
like how can you how can you do this to somebody like how can you harm somebody
again like after you've denied them like human rights basically to have their own defense but
but they didn't because you told them they couldn't because they were a minor and it's like
and now you just get the x you know you just need to deport you get to get to deport them
well what another thing that's crazy about it is uh she wasn't traveling out of the country
she wasn't trying to come back and traveling from boston to i think texas to visit family
so i think her family's there you know i there's something that um interesting story i
actually have so i recently bought a plane ticket with bitcoin or some sort of crypto anyway
and um i got a this is with a self custody wallet and i got a hotel room as well same company
and when i uh the hotel went through just fine when the airfare uh appeared to go through
just fine as well but then i get an email saying that i tripped their aml which stands for anti
money laundering procedure well and the question is why would i have tripped their aml it well the
only reason would be because i use i have it it was a self custody wallet and they don't know
what the source of funds are so they they're they're basically trying to force me to identify
myself even though they already have my name and everything right and my birthday they're
trying to force me to identify myself in order to get a refund uh even because i said it actually
when they when they asked for aml stuff i said no i don't want to and uh you know you can just
refund me and they're like oh you have to do aml in order for a refund just for the refund just
for the refund and um but but this all goes you know kind of all gets into you know this this
this nonsense or this absurdities um that these um you know the government and the airlines and
the companies that are you know this was the sorry was it the airline that said this is the
company that sold the ticket so this is to be the booking agent was it and it wasn't bit refill
no this would have been travel or something i think that's fine anyway i was just like it would
have been pretty big news if it was bit refill because you know no no um no but but it but the
point is that the the aml wasn't tripped because of the hotel park there were two
separate purchases by the way from the same company the hotel didn't trip aml it was only the
flight that tripped aml right so i mean just think about this for a moment they're basically
forcing people to identify themselves to travel domestically and not just at the airport gates
right um not just at the security line well so so i thought i made this name up um it says another
one of the people that were arrested due to tsa tipping off them and giving them information
was marta brazada randero slavia and i literally have it spelled differently and i wrote how i
would pronounce it brazada and i said i think i made up this name in a good in a little note
on my phone my mind is blown when i was a kid i thought i made up the name selena and then i heard
somebody got kidnapped named selena i was like that's the name i made up but it's very possible you
know i heard it and it didn't realize i heard it but i thought i made it up based on just like
pretty word sounds you know i mean it's a little like out there i don't think i would like
you know the chances the chances of you having come up with a unique name are probably
pretty slim i know but only because there are so many people in this world eight billion
nine eight nine billion people in this world the chances are good that somebody else has come
up with the same name and the same spelling even yeah that you would have come up with that's
blowing my mind i was like is that the one i said i wrote like i write down names i like
you gotta you gotta come up with some really bizarre names in order to find
or not be able to find somebody else with the same name that is seriously crazy but anyways
the same office also used the same office i'm not sure what they mean by that sorry because
i skipped ahead a little because i told you guys with a different article about the any lady or girl
any whatever sorry it's just like that's a really weird spelling so it really like
i think i'm like is it any but anyways that same office also used tsa information to tip
off officials to arrest marta presada randeros levia at assault lake city airport in october
former ice official with knowledge of the program told the times that tsa gave ice
officers photos of potential targets whoa they even got photos i mean this all goes back to the
whole they take photos when you go to sorry when you're in um line for the tsa now that they'll
take photos of you and i've been just saying no and you just refuse don't you don't have to
yeah um but not only that um this just goes to you know evidence further that the the whole
tsa thing is security theater it was never anything else um it's not one of your security has
nothing to do with security it's about control not security um security might you might build
argue security for preventing people from bringing bombs on planes or guns or something like that
you can't but that's not what that's not what they're actually doing here well but yeah you
can see that but they don't do it anyways they they've done studies and all the guns get through
tsa i know that's what i mean like it's it's it's it's security theater um the whole real
id thing same thing uh the terrorists had passports had valid passports or driver's licenses actually
issued by i think it was um florida if i recall correctly um the point is that none of this stops
terrorism none of this makes us any safer um it's it's just it's literally a mechanism of being
able to control people and it's not and and this is an example of um you know people who are
immigrants but they also use it to control these american citizens as well um what is it
now you just pay off the tsa oh no i went to $50 or no i went into the i float i keep
forgetting to tell the listeners this i flew twice without real id have you flown since they said you
have to have real id i have not oh i was a i had a trip planned for january 11th but that ends i ended
up ended up not actually having to go um because i could do a remote testimony um for for a trial
that i'm supposed to be a testify at so oh wow okay well um when i did it um flying to alabama
and back basically they just will be like hey we got someone who doesn't have real id they rub
something on your hands i didn't refuse it ian probably would have wanted me to refuse it but
i didn't refuse that they just rub this little soft thing on my hands and then they put it in
a machine to see if you have like that's the bomb detector bomb stuff on your hands yeah the
bomb residue is way to text and um they asked me a bunch of like questions in a really like
snarky way like where are you going you got family there and you know like they ask you way
more extra questions um but it says though the airlines have previously provided tsa with
passenger information to provide or to compare with federal databases the agency has generally
steered clear of domestic criminal or immigration matters said one former agency official who
spoke to the times on the condition of anonymity oh wow okay so i was going to ask like the whole
thing where they talked whereas somebody told the time and a tsa agent tsa agent gave the times
that information about um the marta brazada rinderos la vea lady um yeah i did wonder
if they're just openly like hey just you know this is happening like are they allowed to like
are they giving their names and everything but well did you want to talk about the the other
yes the fed ending paper checks are they making paper checks illegal i don't know i just want to
hear about so this is the story it's from cnn business could paper checks be on the way out
like the penny um so it's interesting because it's apparently the government is involved in
paper checks and i didn't know this necessarily i don't think um but when the us mint stopped
making pennies last month the first time in 238 years it drew a lot of attention but there have been
quiet moves to stop using paper checks as well the government stopped sending out most paper
checks to recipients as of the end of september part of an effort to fully modernize federal
benefits payments and on thursday the federal reserve put out a notice that suggests it is
considering but only considering the winding down of checking services it now provides for banks
so basically what that means is that if they decide to um no longer provide the service how
are banks going to you know do checks because the they're using the federal government for the
checking basically there they're a customer of the federal government so what does the federal
government do in this case because like ian and i whenever we've bought checks we never buy it
from the bank we buy them from like a check company like the fed gives them those checks
i think those checks all end up going to a government and then that's and then they like
to they do the clearing from there something like that the central bank statement said that
as an alternative to winding down those services it is mulling at more uh investment in its
check processing services so they're they're providing apparently some sort of check
processing service but note that would come at a higher cost but it is also considering
not making any such investments in order to keep costs roughly unchanged that would
lead to reduced reliability of those services going forward over time check use has steadily
declined digital payment methods i need it for tons of stuff so what the heck yeah i know and
this is the thing um people still use checks all the time for things like for example um to pay a
you know maybe your one care guy or somebody comes to the house to fix a furnace everything
i do with the city yeah the same thing here i pay the city as well with checks um which is
kind of a mistake because they like to um you know not keep their stuff secure and then they
then your account gets taken over but anyway um well i did want to say what i googled what
does the fed do with paper checks it says it processes paper checks for banks by acting
as a central clearing house receiving checks from local banks crediting their accounts right yeah
yep so i just want to know what what are they even saying they have to do okay that that makes
sense so they don't make the checks so how does that work with like uh like a so they just want
direct deposit then yeah what are they going to essentially they want to force everybody into
digital um payments because i i think it has to do with basically um being able to control you um
it's it's easier to control you when everything's digital it's a lot harder to control people when
you know you have other options um so checks have yeah checks remain the important
payment mechanism for consumers and businesses you said discontinuing federal reserve check
services is not an efficient solution to the growing problem of payment fraud particularly
later the ongoing role of checks in the payments system the history of checks is a little uncertain
but they are thought to date back nearly 2400 years yes 2400 years the first modern checks
gained popularity more than 500 years ago and the early 1500s in Amsterdam Holland people who had
accumulated cash began depositing it with the Dutch cashiers for a fee and a safer alternative
to keeping the money at home then the cashiers agreed to pay the debts out of the money in each
account based on the depositor's rain order or note to do so said it posts in the history of
checking on the site checkkeeper an online check printing service the end of paper checks could
cause problems for consumers who don't have access to a traditional bank account and who
still depend on the small slips of paper to receive some of their funds including their
paycheck about six percent of adults were unbanked in 2024 according to the federal reserve
I know people who are unbanked and they're American citizens born and raised here
yeah it's it's it's kind of um I actually know people who were using bitcoin and didn't have
a bank account or credit cards or debit card of any kind in order to do online banking
and people don't realize this but you can still in some instances use money orders
and cashiers checks to buy stuff online so there's still uses for for for those products and services
wait but using checks online well you send a check in the mail and then you place the
order online and then when they receive the check they send you the goods I guess I've never done
that in any way that I can think of so you guys are too young yeah um I was I was yeah I uh
that's um it's kind of like catalog ordering like think of like a like an internet catalog
instead of a printed one you gotta send your order like with a check yeah I I mean the last
time I used the money order I was like 11 years old and it was a time period in which the um credit
cards were barely being accepted yet on the internet yeah I guess I have sent a check in with
something but it's an application to the government it's always government it's
almost always government when I have to be used to check like I just have to pay my rent
directly to it's literally I'd write to you the um oh what did I write it was like one of the like
federal like what is that called what's the Fed the Federal Reserve I think it was to the Federal
Reserve no not the Federal Reserve the Department of Defense no no no but it was on Dugway and it
was it was directly to I think the Fed um but either what I'm trying to say is because I lived
on a military base yeah so I'm some sort of federal agency like the United States federal
government is that who you know no I remember being like this is crazy I'm writing it to here
here's the Fed here's the interesting thing 10% of Americans don't even have a smartphone
so they're trying to force this stuff down our throats basically and against our will um and
all in the name of uh well I don't even know if they even said in the name of security here
but they often use that to you know try and get people to agree and um it's it's it's not security
it's completely in this case like maybe they're trying to say like oh well not enough people
use it and and like just hope that people go along with that because they're trying to use it
like it's exactly the same as the penny percent of Americans don't even have don't even have a
smartphone okay so just think about that format okay you're basically saying that anybody over
the age of 60 is like not allowed to like pay their bills anymore because that's how they do it yeah
yeah I mean um before my dad passed away he had the hardest of time using a smartphone now he did
have a computer um but a lot of stuff these days you know everything people were trying to push
him to use the smartphone and he couldn't do it he just didn't have the the faculties he had
I mean he he wasn't he was he had not lost anything like up here but just just the overall abilities
you know uh to use a smartphone or the child smartphones are challenging and people I think
a lot of young people don't really understand that um but um I I didn't grow up with smartphones but
I you know grow I did grow up using you know palm pilots and things like that and um and even
you know even though I've you know picked up those skills I still understand I very well
understand um and I'm in my 40s now but I very well understand you know the challenges particularly
somebody who who's on the older side um you know is going to face with especially like my grandma
can barely see like your phone yeah exactly um yeah I mean some of this some of these things I you
know I can already you know personally experience a little bit of um you know when it comes to
just looking at a computer screen for example sometimes it's hard to see the computer screen
or focus in on you know text on the screen it takes a little bit longer to focus in on it
and um so even like you know you know you think about people you know grandma having hard time
using a smartphone for digital payments well even if you give her a computer she's gonna have a
hard time with it right um and makes no sense I um I deal with Sarah doesn't know Sarah only
owns a dumb phone she's not old I deal with a lot of old people um every day and I'm telling
you it's like even just getting a credit card number over the phone from somebody it can be a
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i'm ira spitzer with a look back at some of the week's top stories the united states launched
airstrikes against isis in the north of nigeria on christmas day us president donald trump said
they were to send a message to insurgents in the country who he claims are persecuting christians
fsn's jagruti davay has more from washington donald trump has been threatening military
intervention in nigeria for some time and this was the justification he gave for these strikes
which he described as deadly in a social media post he said isis terrorists scum have been
targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians he added merry christmas to all
including the dead terrorists of which there will be many more if their slaughter of christians
continues u.s africa command said their initial assessment is that multiple isis terrorists
were killed in isis camps the strikes were coordinated with the