WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.700 Six one six zero is the phone number that six zero three two eight three six one six 00:05.700 --> 00:10.780 zero and you can use that number to call in and bring up whatever is on your mind 00:10.780 --> 00:15.120 with you on free talk live tonight you've got me Bonnie and Mr. Penguin and 00:15.700 --> 00:20.420 Mr. Penguin we have lots of things to talk about tonight and I think that even 00:20.420 --> 00:24.580 some of the stuff I brought in is kind of like penguin topics oh yeah for 00:24.580 --> 00:29.020 sure so anything liberty oriented well yeah I agree but we all kind of have 00:29.020 --> 00:33.900 our like kind of like our subjects we're more interested in and one of those for 00:33.900 --> 00:38.780 me recently has been the whole thing with Venezuela I was gonna say Trump's 00:38.780 --> 00:42.920 starting a war is Venice Venezuela but honestly everything he's doing yeah did 00:42.920 --> 00:47.460 you hear that he literally said this I think you're going to see that this is 00:47.460 --> 00:53.680 war I did not see that yeah but I am aware of the ships that he's been 00:53.680 --> 01:00.480 blowing up and the tankers you've been seizing yeah and he also made a US 01:00.480 --> 01:05.880 blockade of Venezuela as far as their oil trade I'm not sure exactly who that like 01:05.880 --> 01:10.020 does that apply to everyone is the US telling every country they cannot buy 01:10.020 --> 01:16.080 oil there yeah like basically anything that's on the US any oil tanker that's 01:16.080 --> 01:20.280 on the US sanctions list basically now what people have to understand is that 01:20.280 --> 01:25.600 it's a US sanctions list it's not a like some sort of international sanctions 01:25.600 --> 01:31.740 list where like nobody can do business with Venezuela it's US so there's no 01:31.740 --> 01:36.140 there's no international law it's not legal at the international level under 01:36.140 --> 01:40.020 like international law what the US is doing is illegal actually yeah it's 01:40.020 --> 01:43.600 or or the other way to phrase it is it's an act of war the US is basically 01:43.600 --> 01:48.200 committing an act of war on Venezuela so if Venezuela were to say oh I 01:48.200 --> 01:51.860 don't know defend itself it would be within every right you know under 01:51.860 --> 01:57.300 international law to do so Wow it does it does seem like an act of war I haven't 01:57.300 --> 02:02.520 heard that yeah but trying to stop them from being able to trade with their 02:02.520 --> 02:07.340 number one probably resource it must be their number one resource right you 02:07.340 --> 02:10.480 always hear about oh yeah that's the that's like 90 something percent of the 02:10.480 --> 02:14.460 economy in Venezuela for what I understand so this article from Wall 02:14.460 --> 02:19.040 Street Journal says US oil blockade of Venezuela pushes Cuba toward collapse and 02:19.040 --> 02:22.120 I thought that was kind of interesting because it's like well now we're looking 02:22.120 --> 02:25.760 at how other countries and other people in other countries are now suffering 02:25.760 --> 02:29.860 from this weird thing that Trump's trying to do to Venezuela that doesn't 02:29.860 --> 02:32.540 even make sense because who wants this who asked for this you know what I mean 02:32.540 --> 02:36.840 yeah well I mean it's it's basically bullying at the international level it's 02:36.840 --> 02:40.000 piracy it's the United States committing piracy against Venezuela 02:40.000 --> 02:44.000 because not only are they blocking the ships from getting in or out they're 02:44.000 --> 02:48.200 actually seizing the ships and then they're actually taking the oil off the 02:48.200 --> 02:53.100 ships and we technically don't know what what nothing has happened yet as far as 02:53.100 --> 02:55.880 I know because there's a process that it goes through but basically what's going 02:55.880 --> 02:58.620 to happen is that oil is going to get sold and then the profits are going to 02:58.620 --> 03:03.300 go into the US government's pocket under US law you mean the ones that they 03:03.300 --> 03:11.000 seized yeah yeah but it's illegal right the US is illegally stolen you know 03:11.000 --> 03:17.860 oil from Venezuela and Venezuela and it's basically or at least ships you know 03:17.860 --> 03:21.920 going to and from Venezuela with oil on it yeah I mean it's technically speaking 03:21.920 --> 03:28.100 like these ships are not necessarily Venezuela flagged ships but they're 03:28.100 --> 03:32.320 doing business with Venezuela and it's not like the ships are going to the 03:32.320 --> 03:36.320 United States where they could then maybe be you know legally seized they're 03:36.960 --> 03:42.000 in international water where they're being seized so yeah I mean I mean for a 03:42.000 --> 03:45.320 guy who says he's you know he's not gonna get us into any you know international 03:45.320 --> 03:51.080 wars this isn't literally an act of war I mean you're you're you're you're just 03:51.080 --> 03:57.580 short of declaring war and you're committing acts of war so it's but 03:57.580 --> 04:00.780 then again I mean politicians are hypocrites right well I did hear them 04:00.780 --> 04:07.900 explicitly say that they were planning to sell the oil on it yeah I mean so 04:07.900 --> 04:13.020 that's that's what comes next there's like a legal process within US law but 04:13.020 --> 04:17.140 it's not like so normally the thing that's really messed up they always get 04:17.140 --> 04:20.540 to decide that it's legal for them to do what they want you know well here's 04:20.540 --> 04:25.020 the thing once they have it like they don't care where it came from and this 04:25.020 --> 04:30.020 is like really messed up yeah so basically what's gonna happen is they're 04:30.020 --> 04:36.800 taking these tankers to US US ports and then and then it'll end up going through 04:36.800 --> 04:43.980 a process because under US law it's it's it's sanctioned but again it's like you 04:43.980 --> 04:47.840 can't go into another country and kidnap people and bring them back that's the 04:47.840 --> 04:53.540 kind of thing that North Korea does that get they get criticized for all 04:53.540 --> 04:58.320 the time they've kidnapped you know thousands of people from like Japan 04:58.320 --> 05:03.340 and in other countries of their quote-a-quote their own people no just 05:03.340 --> 05:07.060 Japanese people we're talking about literally Japanese not just Japanese but 05:07.060 --> 05:13.100 Japanese yeah and they did that you know they've done that in order to train 05:13.100 --> 05:19.300 their own like spies and things wow anyway but like the United States does the 05:19.300 --> 05:23.640 same thing not okay so it I don't understand about for spy purposes but 05:23.640 --> 05:29.960 for other reasons it will kidnap people overseas it's called rendition I 05:29.960 --> 05:32.880 believe it's called and when they basically they kidnap people from 05:32.880 --> 05:36.520 overseas and then once they get to the United States the courts don't care 05:36.520 --> 05:43.160 that it was illegal there was no proper extradition that occurred and it's 05:43.160 --> 05:47.300 yeah I mean it's people you know you know the United States criticizes 05:47.300 --> 05:51.940 you know countries like Venezuela and you know North Korea and Cuba and 05:51.940 --> 05:55.880 other countries you know but yeah it then does basically the same kind of 05:55.880 --> 06:01.600 things you know that are you know clearly unequivocally illegal you know 06:01.600 --> 06:06.420 under international law so it's yeah it's really hard to it's really hard to get 06:06.420 --> 06:10.680 upset over Venice what Venezuela is doing you know from that perspective 06:10.680 --> 06:16.740 now it's I think it's completely you mean upset over if they retaliate yeah 06:16.740 --> 06:21.660 well I mean not only that it's hard to get upset over Venezuela committing 06:21.660 --> 06:24.900 basically war crimes and things when the United States is doing the same thing 06:24.900 --> 06:30.200 what is the war crimes you're saying they're doing Venezuela oh yeah it's 06:30.200 --> 06:33.380 interesting question because we haven't actually I hadn't really even thought 06:33.380 --> 06:37.020 about it you know actually I don't know that they would be war crimes that I'm 06:37.020 --> 06:41.640 thinking of just like selling their oil against the United because that that's 06:41.640 --> 06:44.580 there's nothing there's nothing illegal about you know at an 06:44.580 --> 06:48.960 international level it would only be illegal for them to like maybe sell 06:48.960 --> 06:51.940 it to some American company or something like that in the US or something but 06:51.940 --> 06:55.260 then of course you know they would the tankers would be sees if they those 06:55.260 --> 06:58.960 tankers came to the United States so yeah that's obviously not happening well 06:58.960 --> 07:03.100 we should get into this article and it'll tell us more yeah so so the 07:03.100 --> 07:06.740 thing that the Venezuelan thing that's going on is basically the 07:06.740 --> 07:09.760 president has basically declared himself a dictator and for life kind of 07:09.760 --> 07:16.220 situation and he's refusing to surrender power to the oh yeah so it's 07:16.220 --> 07:19.520 not a war crime but the point that I'm making like human rights yeah it's a 07:19.520 --> 07:23.380 human rights type of issue which universally Trump has also been accused 07:23.380 --> 07:30.540 of I'm I'm not I'm a little skeptical that you can call what Trump did you 07:30.540 --> 07:37.500 know equivalent but well what about people dying in I must have lost that 07:37.500 --> 07:41.660 article but I had articles about like multiple people dying in ice custody 07:41.660 --> 07:44.460 and stuff like that in like these people that are getting arrested for 07:44.980 --> 07:48.680 so I mean that's that's way worse you know that kind of stuff that's going on 07:48.680 --> 07:53.000 you know under under you know under Trump but it's the thing is that people 07:53.000 --> 07:55.520 have to remember this stuff has been going on before a lot of this stuff has 07:55.520 --> 07:58.660 been before Trump Trump is basically what's different about Trump is he's 07:58.660 --> 08:06.060 making a or he's using these actions for public relations reasons right it's 08:06.060 --> 08:10.880 a good thing in his viewers mind yeah I mean a lot of this a lot of the 08:10.880 --> 08:14.040 crimes that have been committed by the United States occurred under prior 08:14.040 --> 08:18.820 presidents and you know Trump is basically just continuing on sort of with 08:18.820 --> 08:22.380 the status quo but people are getting upset about it or they're getting upset 08:22.380 --> 08:26.260 about it because maybe he's going he's crossing a maybe a line that previous 08:26.260 --> 08:30.080 presidents didn't necessarily one thing he's doing is that it's not crossing a 08:30.080 --> 08:33.560 line is a making like these videos and putting them out like celebrating all 08:33.560 --> 08:36.880 the ice arrest and that is making people really mad I'm not saying it's a line 08:36.880 --> 08:40.800 I don't know if that's a line like yeah I get what you're saying right he hasn't 08:40.800 --> 08:45.940 done that right and that's publicity right that's completely publicity but 08:45.940 --> 08:51.860 yeah but yeah no like but the thing is like see the thing is like a lot of 08:51.860 --> 08:55.700 times these these are like there's like when you when you start talking about 08:55.700 --> 08:59.200 like numbers and things there's probably and I don't know this with 08:59.200 --> 09:04.460 certainty but I imagine there probably isn't like some sort of you know 09:04.460 --> 09:08.360 substantial like increase for example in the number of extraditions that are 09:08.360 --> 09:13.440 occurring under Trump what we what we're seeing is I actually I don't know 09:13.440 --> 09:16.760 that I was really interested in that article I don't I suspect that's not 09:16.760 --> 09:20.960 the case and I think that's what I kind of have heard is that that we're not 09:20.960 --> 09:25.840 actually seeing like substantial increases in deportations that's what he 09:25.840 --> 09:28.540 wants but that's not necessarily what's occurring because there's still 09:28.540 --> 09:31.760 our processes and that's the thing when people say oh well he's not you 09:31.760 --> 09:37.640 know he's not following the law or whatever well you know in some respects I 09:37.640 --> 09:43.860 can understand that argument but on the same time he's he's kind of he's sort 09:43.860 --> 09:50.840 of he's interpreting the law and it may not be the way we like it or want it 09:50.840 --> 09:54.340 generally speaking but like every president does this kind of thing 09:55.080 --> 09:59.940 they they they do this they do these things and it's like okay they shouldn't 09:59.940 --> 10:04.840 have done those things but it's like it takes a lot of energy and effort for 10:04.840 --> 10:07.360 all sorts of different organizations particularly organizations like the 10:07.360 --> 10:10.860 ACLU American Civil Libertarian Union they'll try to frontier foundation 10:11.480 --> 10:15.380 I'm trying to think some of the other ones there's a libertarian law firm 10:15.380 --> 10:19.740 which you probably know the name of that does what libertarian law firm 10:19.740 --> 10:23.000 oh just the Institute for Justice yeah Institute for Justice that's it 10:23.000 --> 10:26.860 um anyway I just had to put my tongue that kind of thing of it yeah 10:26.860 --> 10:30.980 but anyway these these organizations you know every time there's a president a new 10:30.980 --> 10:34.840 president who comes into power they're fighting all sorts of things you know 10:34.840 --> 10:38.060 that these presidents are you know doing that you know are illegal or their 10:38.060 --> 10:43.260 administration's doing they're they're illegal and it just it takes a ton of 10:43.260 --> 10:46.800 money and resources and everything else yeah and in some of the cases like the 10:46.800 --> 10:50.560 things that are people are doing wrong it's not even necessarily Trump himself 10:50.560 --> 10:54.600 it's the judge like making bad calls you know like illegally saying it's okay to 10:54.600 --> 10:58.080 to keep arresting someone who'd like should have been arrested you know yeah 10:58.080 --> 11:02.880 there's a lot of bad calls by judges um and it's it's like I'm not saying that to 11:02.880 --> 11:05.620 be like oh Trump didn't do anything wrong I'm simply saying I don't know to your 11:05.620 --> 11:08.920 point yeah yeah I mean one of the problems with with our system is that 11:09.560 --> 11:13.280 we have judges and most of these judges are former prosecutors they're not 11:13.280 --> 11:15.860 you know there's this idea that they're supposed to be impartial but 11:15.860 --> 11:19.460 that's not the way the system is set up the system is not set up to put 11:19.460 --> 11:24.140 impartial people into judgeships um it's set up to put prosecutors into 11:24.140 --> 11:28.260 judgeships and they of course have a bias because they've moved up the letter over 11:28.260 --> 11:32.180 the over the years um by gaining convictions that's because that's how you 11:32.180 --> 11:35.680 move up the ladder and from as for when you become a prosecutor you move up at 11:35.680 --> 11:40.360 the ladder by getting prosecute or getting convictions sorry um when you 11:40.360 --> 11:43.220 prosecute a case so the more convictions you get the better you 11:43.220 --> 11:45.480 know the better chances you are that you move up the ladder that kind of 11:45.480 --> 11:50.440 thing um so yeah I mean um our system is just it's it's we have 11:50.440 --> 11:53.320 problems like our system itself has major problems in addition to the 11:53.320 --> 11:56.220 people that we elect so it's it's kind of a 11:56.220 --> 12:00.280 there's a combination of issues that go on in that in that regard 12:00.840 --> 12:05.500 well I agree with that and I just I the only thing that I disagree with you on 12:05.500 --> 12:08.480 is making a like I don't want to make a statement on 12:08.480 --> 12:13.060 that Trump isn't doing it more isn't arresting people legally more because 12:13.780 --> 12:16.860 I think they're purposely obfuscating those numbers I was really interested 12:16.860 --> 12:21.460 in getting into that article yeah yeah so I mean so I'm not I'm not 12:21.460 --> 12:25.500 trying to suggest that he's not illegally arresting people I'm just no 12:25.500 --> 12:27.960 at a higher rate than other presidents because there are people 12:27.960 --> 12:32.380 even people I do trust like what their their research skills and stuff claiming 12:32.380 --> 12:37.800 that he is yeah I mean so so yeah so like I think I 12:37.800 --> 12:40.820 think what you have to look at is like okay like what per like yeah I gotta 12:40.820 --> 12:43.960 start looking at like percentages right like if you look at the number of 12:43.960 --> 12:46.320 people that are being arrested I don't think that's gonna be quite 12:46.320 --> 12:50.100 the numbers that you've been made uh or you've been led to believe 12:50.540 --> 12:53.420 if you can pull up some if you're able to find some statistics on that I would 12:53.420 --> 12:56.180 love to hear what people think in terms I just didn't really want to do that in the 12:56.180 --> 12:59.520 middle of the show but I would it's hard to do I know yeah maybe on a break we 12:59.520 --> 13:02.620 can if we besides I'm not joking like whenever I've tried to just do a 13:02.620 --> 13:05.480 quick thing because people I know we're like arguing about or something 13:05.480 --> 13:08.780 you can't find a quick answer and that's when I get like distracted and 13:08.780 --> 13:12.540 go on to some other topic you know what I mean yeah so I guess I guess what 13:12.540 --> 13:15.780 I'm trying to say is that like okay so they like he he extradited like 13:15.780 --> 13:20.920 300 people illegally to um what was the ice facility in uh on door not on 13:20.920 --> 13:25.100 doors where was it I don't know it's uh El Salvador right 13:25.100 --> 13:28.860 oh okay so that's an example right like that was one of the big you know 13:28.860 --> 13:33.560 extradiction or extraditions right that he did or I don't know if that's the 13:33.560 --> 13:35.920 right word but anyway he basically shipped a bunch of people off to 13:35.920 --> 13:40.320 El Salvador right um and prison in El Salvador well the thing is that 13:40.320 --> 13:44.900 when I say that he hasn't probably done as much as you think 13:45.660 --> 13:50.020 it's because this is all public relations right and that was a lot of people 13:50.500 --> 13:54.960 but it wasn't a lot of people in the scheme of extraditions right just because 13:54.960 --> 13:57.360 like you're saying Biden might have been doing the same amount but I'm just 13:57.360 --> 14:00.380 saying I don't think we know that yeah there's a lot of it with my point that 14:00.380 --> 14:03.320 I'm trying to make is that there's a lot of extraditions every year and so 300 14:03.320 --> 14:06.460 people in terms of the number of extraditions that occur on a 14:06.460 --> 14:08.380 yearly basis is nothing right but the number of 14:08.380 --> 14:11.760 been hearing is not 300 the numbers I've been hearing is like 14:11.760 --> 14:15.960 hundreds of thousands of more cases like this 14:15.960 --> 14:19.300 than normal and that's just what I'm hearing from people who are 14:19.300 --> 14:24.720 interested in it looking into it and I wasn't in fact I don't know what a 14:24.720 --> 14:28.700 hundred thousand people is in the scheme of extraditions on like say a 14:28.700 --> 14:31.360 yearly basis or whatever so I don't really have a 14:31.360 --> 14:35.000 good idea to compare and that's basically exactly what I'm saying to 14:35.000 --> 14:37.960 saying like I don't know that so I'm not going to claim one way or the 14:37.960 --> 14:39.640 other yeah right and I don't know for like I kept 14:39.640 --> 14:42.400 I said before too and I'm gonna repeat myself I don't know for sure either so 14:42.400 --> 14:45.540 this would be something that would be great to find out yeah I just know that 14:45.540 --> 14:49.780 article I was missing a lot of the next break a lot of what presidents do is 14:49.780 --> 14:53.640 theatrics a lot of what politicians do is theatrics and certainly a lot of what 14:53.640 --> 14:56.960 trump has done has been theatrics there's a lot of things that he did by 14:56.960 --> 15:00.760 edict but once it hits the courts those things have been turned out 15:00.760 --> 15:03.700 turned you know actually thought that he actually made 15:04.500 --> 15:07.640 weed um schedule four instead of schedule one do you know what that 15:07.640 --> 15:11.260 means so that would make it less I understand this I understand the 15:11.260 --> 15:14.920 schedules um yeah so but he actually didn't like all he 15:14.920 --> 15:18.500 did was make a direct announcement but he didn't actually do it made in um 15:18.500 --> 15:23.320 executive order that told them to hurry up the process because apparently 15:23.320 --> 15:28.200 Biden already started the exact same process was that a law that passed and 15:28.200 --> 15:31.060 then what I was talking about just now what Trump 15:31.060 --> 15:34.520 did yeah was an executive order telling them and I don't know what 15:34.520 --> 15:38.140 Biden did was it a law I don't know all I know is they 15:38.140 --> 15:40.720 they're already in the process of they have to look into 15:41.320 --> 15:45.420 and then change it from schedule one to schedule four which would put it in the 15:45.420 --> 15:50.700 same range Ian told me as um man what's that call that 15:50.700 --> 15:52.440 starts with uh it's when you go in the k-hole 15:52.440 --> 15:56.660 it's uh um so it'd be in the same as steroid use 15:56.660 --> 16:00.520 okay and also the k-hole when it's I'm not remembering what that's called 16:00.520 --> 16:03.520 right now um and I think you know what you're talking about 16:03.520 --> 16:06.720 I keep wanting to say KEPRA and that's just because I've been in the gypsy rose 16:06.720 --> 16:10.320 case it's not KEPRA that's a seizure medicine this is something that was 16:10.320 --> 16:13.760 sold over the counter basically right up until recently uh I don't know how 16:13.760 --> 16:16.620 recently but doctors can prescribe it right now 16:16.620 --> 16:20.060 uh ketamine ketamine yeah yeah was the ketamine sold openly without a 16:20.060 --> 16:23.400 prescription even maybe before like a long time ago like maybe like before 16:23.400 --> 16:26.820 I was born or something oh no I meant like recently it's 16:26.820 --> 16:29.860 definitely been illegal since I was like a kid but I mean like 16:29.860 --> 16:34.160 schedule four more like instead of like oh they're 16:34.160 --> 16:37.380 pulling cars over and looking for the smell of KEPRA like I wonder I wonder if 16:37.380 --> 16:40.840 it was legal at a state level and not at the uh it wasn't legal at the 16:40.840 --> 16:43.860 federal level but it wasn't it wasn't as serious as some other 16:43.860 --> 16:46.940 substances and the other thing about it is you can go to a doctor and they 16:46.940 --> 16:50.300 can get you KEPRA but you like stay in the room with 16:50.300 --> 16:53.000 them and have a session with them like they don't just give to you and 16:53.000 --> 16:55.860 you walk off okay yeah it's like a therapy thing 16:55.860 --> 17:00.240 yeah so I know the different like um all right I meant to say ketamine I think I 17:00.240 --> 17:04.520 think schedule um drugs has to do in part with 17:04.520 --> 17:07.460 whether or not they recognize it as having medical 17:07.880 --> 17:13.300 a municipal uh value basically and so so um if it's if it's if it has 17:13.300 --> 17:16.000 medical some sort of medical value or when just 17:16.640 --> 17:20.520 which is why it's like insane that they're they say about weed because 17:20.520 --> 17:23.600 weed right there are lots of people that claim that 17:23.600 --> 17:27.480 has medical value and and lots of doctors that use it for medical value um 17:27.480 --> 17:32.200 but whereas like what doctor is giving you alcohol for medical value 17:32.780 --> 17:38.620 for a medical reason I've not heard of that except for like historically like 17:38.620 --> 17:41.960 oh okay maybe um like I mean they would they would you know get 17:42.600 --> 17:45.560 like give the baby this to make the baby sleep and stuff like that 17:45.560 --> 17:49.300 wasn't even thinking of that I was thinking more like somebody got shot 17:49.300 --> 17:52.600 and they didn't have any kind of drugs and you know alcohol was the 17:52.600 --> 17:57.180 only thing that would uh well I had a couple of uses one was I think to um 17:57.940 --> 18:01.640 you know keep out bacteria and stuff although I don't know how well or what 18:01.640 --> 18:04.020 what point they knew that would occur or that would help um 18:04.020 --> 18:08.480 and then the other is for you know you get really drunk you don't know that 18:08.480 --> 18:12.380 they're sawing off your leg right um in a battle that kind of thing um so 18:12.380 --> 18:15.140 yeah like during like the civil war period I think like they used it for 18:15.140 --> 18:18.440 for that type of I still think that like there's like for example with 18:18.440 --> 18:22.020 cratum anytime I try to look up like an answer about cratum it's 18:22.020 --> 18:25.280 really hard to find things because they just don't study it that much 18:25.280 --> 18:29.640 but weed has been studied a lot and lots of good things have been like found 18:29.640 --> 18:32.560 there have been lots of things that it helped with I'm not even like a weed 18:32.560 --> 18:35.400 user I'm not even like a big weed promoter like I wouldn't 18:35.400 --> 18:39.000 like tell somebody I think that's a good idea for them to smoke weed in most 18:39.000 --> 18:42.500 cases and yet I still can admit that there 18:42.500 --> 18:46.260 are lots of studies that show oh look this did something good for 18:46.260 --> 18:48.860 well I mean that's that's the libertarian mindset right like I don't 18:48.860 --> 18:52.980 smoke weed either and yet yeah I mean I don't I don't think it should be 18:52.980 --> 18:55.780 illegal right but in Trump's executive order thing he 18:55.780 --> 18:59.940 did where he just basically ranted about that and kind of basically told the 19:00.540 --> 19:03.360 the government like hurry it up and make it schedule for 19:03.360 --> 19:07.800 um he went off it not he I don't know if it's his own words you know what I 19:07.800 --> 19:10.480 mean but um in the executive order he goes off 19:10.480 --> 19:14.340 about how weed isn't that that harmful and it's kind of so weird to be 19:14.340 --> 19:18.620 saying that and um making like a huge statement like that was really just a 19:18.620 --> 19:21.680 big statement basically and at the same time trying to 19:21.680 --> 19:25.780 start a war with Venezuela over other drugs right and another funny thing about 19:25.780 --> 19:29.880 that is that like he's like he's using that as an excuse to blow uh you know 19:29.880 --> 19:33.540 drug boats out of the water right yeah we're supposed drug drug boats 19:33.540 --> 19:36.660 it's like wait a minute okay so hold on so 19:37.180 --> 19:41.540 weed is okay but you're probably blowing drug boats out of the water 19:41.540 --> 19:44.200 with weed like what sense does any of this make 19:44.200 --> 19:47.900 yeah I don't know it's like yeah murder at that I mean that's 19:47.900 --> 19:50.900 you know that's that's what you've done is you've murdered somebody they haven't 19:50.900 --> 19:53.100 gotten a you know a fair trial you haven't you know 19:53.100 --> 19:56.600 it's like it's one thing to you know once somebody hits you as shores 19:56.600 --> 20:00.160 you can go after and arrest those people and you know to you know 20:00.160 --> 20:03.240 prosecute them right and that that's the proper way of going about it 20:03.240 --> 20:06.580 because until they hit your shores yeah you haven't committed a crime 20:06.580 --> 20:09.680 I think they're going to sell weed to Americans or you know actually wasn't 20:09.680 --> 20:12.800 weed they've been claiming it's fentanyl and stuff but and the 20:12.800 --> 20:17.300 thing is it's it's just suspicion there's no evidence right like until we have 20:17.960 --> 20:22.280 you know until they've actually seized the drugs they don't know what it is they 20:22.280 --> 20:25.720 just think it's that because blowing ships up that's insane 20:25.720 --> 20:27.940 like I've never heard of a president doing something like this 20:27.940 --> 20:31.420 oh no other president has for what I understand and what really blows my 20:31.420 --> 20:33.500 mind is it being like venezuela you know what I mean 20:33.500 --> 20:37.000 it's not like the thing is I'm not saying it makes it better if it's as 20:37.000 --> 20:39.540 afghanistan but I feel like presidents have probably done 20:39.540 --> 20:42.940 similar things in like afghanistan and we never hear about it because oh it's in 20:42.940 --> 20:47.160 the middle of war in afghanistan they had us soldiers guarding the poppy fields 20:47.160 --> 20:52.720 I mean yeah but I'm just saying in in some other country but yeah it really 20:52.720 --> 20:56.300 brings it close to home when it feels like you're starting a fight with one 20:56.300 --> 21:01.620 of our like close neighbors that could easily just like you know come and 21:01.620 --> 21:05.100 kill a bunch of americans because they are mad about it like if your child 21:05.100 --> 21:06.620 is killed on one of those drug boats 21:06.620 --> 21:13.020 you may be more inclined to sneak over the border and do a terrorist attack I'm 21:13.020 --> 21:16.180 not saying that like I think that is likely or something like that 21:16.180 --> 21:20.920 it's just like whenever it's happening in afghanistan there is still blowback 21:20.920 --> 21:24.620 in america like we had 9-11 and yet venezuela is way closer why are you 21:24.620 --> 21:28.700 picking a fight with people like you see what I'm saying like blowback is a 21:28.700 --> 21:32.080 real yeah absolutely no and and I think I think you can even extend 21:33.020 --> 21:37.480 afghanistan came after 9-11 but nonetheless but you but there's a point 21:37.480 --> 21:42.400 that you made there that is completely valid in that we one of the things that 21:42.400 --> 21:46.500 the united states has done over the decades is gone in with corporations and 21:46.500 --> 21:52.300 other western values into countries where the population doesn't like doesn't 21:52.300 --> 21:55.900 have those values doesn't like us and and so you end up with these 21:55.900 --> 21:59.400 terrorists targeting you know americans it's like that was not you 21:59.400 --> 22:03.640 know 9-11 wasn't just oh you know we hate americans they have reasons to hate americans 22:03.640 --> 22:07.520 yeah so I'm not saying it was justified I'm just saying that right I don't either 22:07.520 --> 22:10.240 exactly it's just that we know this is a phenomenon that happens 22:10.820 --> 22:16.800 603-283-6160 morphery talk live coming up when new hampshire peacefully leaves the union 22:16.800 --> 22:22.180 will we have to take on some of the national debt let's be clear that's not national debt 22:22.180 --> 22:26.840 that's federal debt debt that was incurred by a bunch of people that we didn't elect 22:26.840 --> 22:32.140 forcing policies on us that 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story news in san francisco i'm ira spitzer with a look back at some of the 23:19.760 --> 23:25.360 week's top stories the united states launched air strikes against isis in the north of nigeria 23:25.360 --> 23:31.340 on christmas day us president donald trump said they were to send a message to insurgents in the 23:31.340 --> 23:38.240 country who he claims are persecuting christians fsn's jagruti davai has more from washington 23:38.240 --> 23:43.580 donald trump has been threatening military intervention in nigeria for some time and this 23:43.580 --> 23:48.340 was the justification he gave for these strikes which he described as deadly in a social media 23:48.340 --> 23:55.080 he said isis terrorists scum have been targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians 23:55.080 --> 24:00.480 he added merry christmas to all including the dead terrorists of which there will be many more 24:00.480 --> 24:06.780 if their slaughter of christians continues us africa command said their initial assessment 24:06.780 --> 24:12.640 is that multiple isis terrorists were killed in isis camps the strikes were coordinated 24:12.640 --> 24:17.160 with the nigerian government whose foreign minister said they shared intelligence with the 24:17.800 --> 24:23.260 india in bangladesh summoned each other's envoys over protests outside their diplomatic missions 24:23.260 --> 24:29.820 as already tense ties spiral the latest round of formal protests come after right-wing groups staged 24:29.820 --> 24:35.840 protests in several indian cities over the killing of a hindu garment worker in bangladesh 24:35.840 --> 24:42.540 over allegations of blasphemy fsn's kshitij nagar has more from new delhi the summoning of the 24:42.540 --> 24:48.080 indian high commissioner by bangladesh is the second such instance in as many days bangladesh 24:48.080 --> 24:54.360 officials raised objections over protests and what they describe as a failure to curb demonstrations 24:54.840 --> 25:01.080 and targeting its diplomatic missions the high commission in delhi remains under heavy police 25:01.080 --> 25:07.300 deployment with security tightened and police forces deployed the killing of a hindu man in 25:07.300 --> 25:13.220 northern bangladesh earlier in the month triggered public anger in india and sharpened concerns over 25:13.220 --> 25:18.960 minority safety indian authorities say they are closely tracking developments the escalation 25:18.960 --> 25:24.440 comes amid a broader political uncertainty in bangladesh following the ouster of former prime 25:24.440 --> 25:30.620 minister sheik hasena earlier this year us president trump announced a new type of battleship set to 25:30.620 --> 25:38.840 be used by the us navy and it is one named after himself fsn's mitch mccann reports standing beside 25:38.840 --> 25:43.320 the defense secretary and the secretary of state donald trump announced that the us will build 25:43.320 --> 25:48.180 two new trump class battleships mr 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you know he's a republican whereas last one was a 27:47.070 --> 27:51.510 democrat and so he starts talking about we're going to be doing this and everybody thinks that it's 27:51.510 --> 27:57.130 new starting with that president in reality the government's been doing it so it is true that 27:57.130 --> 28:02.310 the government like biden was arresting people with ice and deporting people and just wouldn't 28:02.310 --> 28:08.890 talk about it a lot of the a lot of the um the really tragic kind of things that you know these 28:08.890 --> 28:14.130 people these politicians have done these you know the president basically um it has occurred under 28:14.130 --> 28:19.730 multiple under multiple different administrations and as an example um one of the things was 28:19.730 --> 28:25.230 separating kids from their parents right um in ice attention facilities okay that happened 28:25.230 --> 28:32.390 under both you know under both democrat and republican administrations um but that's the 28:32.390 --> 28:36.410 kind of thing that you know people often will you know say it's trump you know trump is you 28:36.410 --> 28:41.610 know somehow at fault when it it's like well no that's that's not exactly it's kind of a 28:41.610 --> 28:46.770 misleading you know misleading people right um because it happened under different administrations 28:46.770 --> 28:52.210 on both sides political sides basically okay yes i agree um but i did want to know is it 28:52.210 --> 28:58.630 growing or not so i found this article from msn four ice detainee deaths in four days 28:58.630 --> 29:05.150 spark alarm as arrests grow but you're talking about the death toll not the not the number of 29:05.150 --> 29:09.690 immigrants actually well it's it also like uh references arrest growing so i want to get into 29:09.690 --> 29:14.790 i haven't read this okay um it says four people in immigration detention have died over a four 29:14.790 --> 29:20.010 day period this month increasing concern among advocates and some members of congress 29:20.010 --> 29:26.150 over detention conditions one death took place december 12th another two took place on december 29:26.150 --> 29:31.730 14th and the fourth on december 15th according to us immigration and customs enforcement news releases 29:31.730 --> 29:37.230 four detainee deaths in one week is a red hot crisis why are people dying this this is insane 29:37.230 --> 29:42.230 why are people who are being arrested dying in custody like i don't even hear about just like 29:42.890 --> 29:46.650 like criminals dying in jail but often you know i mean like just part of the 29:47.290 --> 29:52.410 simply because of the number of detainees um and what is that number i i don't know what the 29:52.410 --> 29:56.790 numbers are exactly but if you look up the number of detainees you're gonna find that there's a lot of 29:56.790 --> 30:01.430 people in detention even then it's like how often so you're gonna have you know you're gonna have 30:01.430 --> 30:06.410 deaths but the question is are they are they the result of the conditions and they've always 30:06.410 --> 30:10.910 the conditions have always been bad in the prison systems i mean i mean even in the even 30:10.910 --> 30:15.510 in the federal prison system when it comes to us citizens the the detention facilities are 30:15.510 --> 30:20.850 terrible shape um we know that because of aria um and and ian yeah but ian and oria didn't experience 30:20.850 --> 30:26.890 something that's like oh you you'll die about this you know what i mean um so some of the people that 30:26.890 --> 30:32.790 we know have the have experienced those types of conditions i do believe um like for example 30:32.790 --> 30:38.170 not at the federal level here um but at least at the state level for example in uh manchester 30:38.770 --> 30:42.730 the prison conditions there are really really really terrible you don't want to be arrested 30:42.730 --> 30:46.770 about um manchester the one in manchester i forget what it's called do you remember what that one's 30:46.770 --> 30:50.410 called it's like main street is what i want to say it's not main street it's something street 30:50.410 --> 30:55.370 valley street yeah valley street yeah it's supposed to be really bad um i haven't necessarily heard 30:55.370 --> 31:01.070 that somebody died there but i people have died yeah um they find all the time like even then 31:01.070 --> 31:05.730 it's like rap poison in people's foods and oh my god yeah people are murdered um so like by 31:05.730 --> 31:10.710 other detain detainees or something it doesn't get investigated or it doesn't get investigated 31:10.710 --> 31:16.010 properly or they don't have any enough evidence to determine who was you know the killer right yeah 31:16.710 --> 31:21.790 so yeah but the point is that like the conditions are bad right so um but and this is the same 31:21.790 --> 31:26.430 thing at the federal level um now it may be that the conditions are even worse at you know some 31:26.430 --> 31:33.630 of these detention centers right for immigrants um it's there is a there's a variety of 31:33.630 --> 31:38.430 conditions at different prisons across the united states at the federal level so 31:38.990 --> 31:45.670 it's not and it's not the conditions were never good right so if it's it's worse under trump that 31:45.670 --> 31:50.010 that very well could be they could be crowding more people into these detention facilities 31:50.010 --> 31:55.870 making the situation even worse and this could result in you know an increasing number of deaths 31:56.610 --> 32:01.890 so i want to know if it but that also kind of begs more questions because i want to know 32:01.890 --> 32:08.830 well is it because is it kind of normal considering we're doing like four times as many arrests or not 32:08.830 --> 32:13.110 so well here let me i have another statistic that is worth mentioning here um so we were asking 32:13.110 --> 32:17.470 before what is the you know what's the level of extradition that's occurring in the united 32:17.470 --> 32:26.550 states now versus prior to trump so in 2022 um there were 109 000 extradition immigrants extradited 32:26.550 --> 32:34.850 okay in 2024 it was something around 700 000 wow so it clearly has significantly increased under 32:34.850 --> 32:41.210 the most recent trump administration yep um but you know i mean i mean keep improving one of the 32:41.210 --> 32:47.050 other things to keep in mind is that like there's only so much money going into these um extraditions 32:47.610 --> 32:52.370 and you know in law enforcement and that kind of thing at that level so like they can increase 32:52.370 --> 32:57.290 the number of extraditions but they sort of they are limited by their resources still 32:57.870 --> 33:03.430 but they can do things like you know cut corners and result in more people dying for example to 33:03.430 --> 33:07.810 sort of push those numbers up and that's probably what's going on i mean to try to i mean think 33:07.810 --> 33:12.410 about think about how many you'd have to increase the resources by seven if you want to extradite 33:12.410 --> 33:18.090 you know right but is are the in have the has the funding gone up by seven fold yeah exactly 33:18.090 --> 33:22.730 maybe there's no chance because they want to pay the ice agents but not necessarily like oh 33:22.730 --> 33:26.070 they're making sometime more room in the prisons or whatever if you look at the if you look at the 33:26.070 --> 33:32.150 budgets i am sure that has not you know gone up by seven fold um there's you know and remember 33:32.150 --> 33:36.010 that not only does it doesn't it doesn't need to go up by seven fold it needs to go up by even 33:36.010 --> 33:40.310 more than that because if you look at inflation uh you know look at inflation i mean everything's 33:40.310 --> 33:44.850 more than doubled you know in the last handful of years so it it's not it's not you know 33:44.850 --> 33:49.050 double it's not it's i'm ira seven fold is more like you know 15 fold or maybe even more than 33:49.050 --> 33:54.450 that potentially um would need to be funded in order to you know just keep up with the 33:54.450 --> 33:59.630 level and the conditions that we had you know in 2022 or maybe a little before that even 33:59.630 --> 34:07.790 this article back on msnb or sorry msn.com it says this man unis show senior council at 34:07.790 --> 34:14.190 the american civil liberties union national prison project so that means aclu right so that aclu 34:14.190 --> 34:19.990 national prison project okay there is no question in my mind that this represents a clear deterioration 34:19.990 --> 34:26.970 of medical care and the worsening conditions in ice detention the recent deaths deaths bring total 34:26.970 --> 34:35.250 detainee deaths to 30 in 2025 the highest number since 2004 when 32 people died in ice custody 34:35.250 --> 34:40.170 this year's i wonder what like what was going on then like actually doesn't sound that bad 34:40.170 --> 34:44.950 especially can sit relative to the number of people that they're incarcerating so yeah but think 34:44.950 --> 34:51.510 about in 2004 it's probably many less um i don't know actually well no but i'm trying to say is the 34:51.510 --> 34:56.130 percentage of people right so if you have maybe that would make a higher percentage in 2004 you 34:56.130 --> 34:59.410 should have a higher percentage if you have a higher a higher number of detainees right so if 34:59.410 --> 35:04.210 you have a 700,000 versus 100,000 you would expect there to be a seven fold increase in the 35:04.210 --> 35:08.670 number of deaths and that's not necessarily because of worsening conditions yeah but we don't 35:08.670 --> 35:13.870 know that yet so i want to look it up it actually it's kind of crazy so i guess in 2004 more people 35:13.870 --> 35:21.010 were detained than 2002 that you read earlier it says okay 2022 not 2002 oh 2002 yeah but this is 35:21.010 --> 35:29.490 also confusing me it says approximately 235,247 foreign nationals yeah in 2004 but what is 35:29.490 --> 35:33.830 did your your thing also like specify foreign nationals because i don't know if that's 35:33.830 --> 35:40.750 everyone's detained by ICE um my understanding is that was the numbers for extradition of uh 35:40.750 --> 35:45.050 like illegal immigrants basically yeah that's that's what they're trying to give me this answer for 35:45.050 --> 35:50.190 but it's also uh AI and it's feels weird that saying oh specifically foreign nationals and it's 35:50.190 --> 35:55.970 like do you have to be a foreign national like because honestly the word foreign national is this 35:55.970 --> 36:02.290 like um wishy washy term and it's like you could you could move to america say i don't like 36:02.730 --> 36:07.550 Somalia anymore at all and i don't want it i'm not smelling and i'm american and they'll still call 36:07.550 --> 36:10.990 you a foreign national on the news because they're like they want everyone out you know what i mean 36:10.990 --> 36:16.390 yeah i mean basically anytime extradition comes into effect um so anybody overstaying a visa would 36:16.390 --> 36:21.750 also count um and that doesn't necessarily mean they're extradited though so i'm wondering if the 36:21.750 --> 36:27.230 number is bigger to not include foreign nationals but i guess i'd be wrong well i mean so it was 36:27.230 --> 36:31.770 the case in particular that you know people would overstay their visas a bit and then leave 36:32.990 --> 36:39.130 voluntarily um but this is tends to be you know like you know not so much immigrants um 36:39.830 --> 36:43.890 that's more of tourism kind of thing what is this talking about now is it now i'm starting to think 36:43.890 --> 36:47.650 this is like AI weirdness and i should should just move on because it says contacts this was 36:47.650 --> 36:52.690 part of a broader enforcement effort where dhs apprehended over 1.2 million foreign nationals 36:52.690 --> 36:58.830 in 2004 with 92 from mexico so is that the same thing as what is this doing no detention 36:58.830 --> 37:03.490 detention does not necessarily mean extradition right so somebody could be detained released and 37:03.490 --> 37:07.250 not be extradited yeah but i didn't know we're looking up specifically only numbers of being 37:07.250 --> 37:12.730 extradited because these people are just dying in ice detention not necessarily after being extradited 37:12.730 --> 37:16.910 right so you're right i mean you're right we did look up extradition not detentions um 37:16.910 --> 37:21.390 and it's it's kind of it's kind of a complicated thing to like think about because 37:21.390 --> 37:25.330 and also they they make they money the waters i swear like this is like the hardest thing i've 37:25.330 --> 37:29.770 ever tried to google because some of my like people i know we're actually arguing about these numbers 37:29.770 --> 37:36.230 and like i try to start googling they don't make it easy you know what i mean no um they don't um 37:36.230 --> 37:39.710 but you know there's also some other factors here too that they're probably playing into this so 37:39.710 --> 37:44.630 like for example um the seven the numbers uh well maybe not the extradition number but for 37:44.630 --> 37:50.110 example the number of detainees you can you can do sevenfold increase in detainees 37:50.110 --> 37:56.450 and not necessarily reduce the conditions if you're not holding on to people as well yeah like 37:56.450 --> 38:02.230 if you're detained for a day right so it right exactly so if if somebody you know in 2004 was 38:02.230 --> 38:07.690 detained for 25 days for example on average but they're only you know detaining people for two 38:07.690 --> 38:14.410 days on average you know in 2024 um you know then then the conditions the the prison conditions 38:14.410 --> 38:18.250 they don't have to spend more money basically on those prison conditions well i will say that 38:18.250 --> 38:23.610 this here gives us at least a little bit of an answer it says nearly 66 000 people are currently in 38:23.610 --> 38:29.270 detention according to ice data which is a record high so that's a record high of people all being 38:29.270 --> 38:35.490 in in detention at once and it says the trump administration is seeking to spend 45 billion 38:35.490 --> 38:41.250 dollars to expand immigration detention after refusing or sorry receiving an infusion of 38:41.250 --> 38:46.370 cash from congress so i guess they recently got more money from congress to do more of this 38:46.370 --> 38:52.090 i guess the rise in detention talk about waste of your tax you know your tax money right i'm just 38:52.090 --> 38:57.330 holding these people and stuff especially since we're having we have government people who don't 38:57.330 --> 39:03.010 want to have to show their faces grabbing people off the streets that we don't know like let's 39:03.010 --> 39:08.710 just say there are some people that absolutely are here and i don't mean just illegally oh 39:08.710 --> 39:14.370 they cross the border and i care about that law like they came here and they got brought here 39:14.370 --> 39:21.050 by some NGO and don't have a job and are living off welfare say you want only those people taken 39:21.050 --> 39:25.390 off well you're still paying this ice agent to arrest a bunch of people that maybe it's even someone 39:25.390 --> 39:29.670 they don't like or something like that and never have any accountability and it turns out that person 39:29.670 --> 39:33.390 was not illegal it happens all the time you know what i mean so it's definitely a huge waste 39:33.770 --> 39:37.330 even if you are into this i'm following what you're saying so you're yeah you're so you're 39:37.330 --> 39:41.430 talking about all the arrests that have been occurring in relation to people who were simply 39:42.250 --> 39:47.250 foreigners or they might have even been born here in some cases and have you a citizenship you have 39:47.250 --> 39:51.190 to pay for that and then it finds oh well we found out sorry and they released them it's like you 39:51.190 --> 39:55.070 have to pay for that yeah yeah there's a lot right there's a tension and you know maybe somebody 39:55.070 --> 39:58.650 doesn't have ID on them or maybe they do have ID on them but you know they still you know they 39:58.650 --> 40:02.750 still detain them for some weird cases to you where people are completely legal even though 40:02.750 --> 40:07.750 they're from another place but they are legally here and they have like one minor arrest for 40:07.750 --> 40:12.330 like somebody that happened in new hampshire i think it was maybe it was the connecticut airport 40:12.890 --> 40:17.330 canada i think it was they like extradite somebody to canada recently who had been here for like 20 40:17.330 --> 40:21.310 something years i don't know that could be a different one because when i'm thinking he didn't 40:21.310 --> 40:25.810 get he didn't get sent to canada he was being held and uh he's being would be allowed back into 40:25.810 --> 40:29.850 the united states right he was the united he was uh from new hampshire but he was using the 40:29.850 --> 40:35.550 connecticut airport and he got detained there and i don't think he actually got um sent away 40:35.550 --> 40:40.230 anywhere they they were holding him and the only reason that they brought up with something about 40:40.230 --> 40:44.210 him having a weed case that was dismissed from like 10 years earlier yeah and he was from germany 40:44.210 --> 40:48.670 or something like that okay that's a different case um but yeah yeah i know um i know there was a 40:48.670 --> 40:53.570 case in uh somebody yeah like 20 they were here in the united states for 20 something plus years 40:53.570 --> 40:58.310 with a family and everything they were illegal they had a green card or something of that nature 40:58.310 --> 41:04.010 and um they i think they had permanent residence permanent residence status sorry um yeah and 41:04.010 --> 41:08.450 then they were uh they they went back to canada and when they came they tried to get back in the 41:08.450 --> 41:13.650 united states they were i think denied i see um and it had to do with something that some arrest 41:13.650 --> 41:19.850 from like ages ago and it's like well they had every opportunity to deny the residents 41:19.850 --> 41:23.670 you know the permanent residence status or the green card you know in that time period 41:23.670 --> 41:27.510 because you know those those kind of things have to be renewed every so often and it is also 41:27.510 --> 41:33.070 minor marijuana related convictions in 2004 and 2007 um it's it's so it's really similar 41:33.070 --> 41:36.330 to the other guy i was telling you about yeah yeah and i find that like the most 41:36.990 --> 41:42.090 odd ones and the most ridiculous ones like you're paying for people to okay this guy christopher 41:42.090 --> 41:46.130 didn't get put in ice custody but this is the type of thing that they are doing like i said the guy 41:46.130 --> 41:52.190 from the german in connecticut they're basically just using any excuse to extradite um oh this guy 41:52.190 --> 41:55.110 that you guys were talking about christopher landry the new hamps your permanent resident 41:55.110 --> 42:01.590 he was a green card holder who got denied re-entry from canada in july 2005 42:02.330 --> 42:09.650 it says that he was been living here since age five you said that was in 2005 uh no under 2025 42:09.650 --> 42:15.130 oh yeah did i say 2005 again no it was july 2025 the one exactly when you guys were talking about 42:15.130 --> 42:18.890 i mean that's the kind of thing that's that's extraordinarily messed up that the united states 42:18.890 --> 42:25.030 will extradite somebody who was was here as a child uh and that and now as an adult they're 42:25.030 --> 42:28.070 going to extradite them to some country where they don't even speak the language like that 42:28.070 --> 42:33.210 well i mean i know okay that's not the case with the can i guess it could be if they were in 42:33.210 --> 42:42.690 the french part but well no i mean yeah i mean um but yeah i mean it's like it's it's it's like 42:42.690 --> 42:48.370 some really messed up stuff um you know uh it like even if you can you can just somehow 42:48.370 --> 42:52.570 justify like extraditing like maybe their parents or something like that or how do you how do 42:53.110 --> 42:59.310 how do you justify extraditing somebody as an adult you know who literally has you know grown up 42:59.310 --> 43:03.770 here i mean like that you would think you know the whole the whole you are born here your citizen 43:03.770 --> 43:09.330 well why why not if you've been here as a child for more than a couple of years why are you not 43:09.330 --> 43:14.630 also granted citizenship status right like you should be i i think anyway i mean i don't even think 43:14.630 --> 43:21.930 we should have citizenship ships at all to begin with but yeah yeah it makes sense um that 43:22.930 --> 43:28.170 what's the difference between being born here and being literally like five or less 43:28.170 --> 43:32.610 when you got here like what's the big difference actually you know what i mean it's like kind of 43:32.610 --> 43:37.350 arbitrary well you're you didn't come out of your mother's womb right like here like you lived 43:37.350 --> 43:42.710 here for a long time as a kid and you speak the english language you went to the american 43:42.710 --> 43:48.210 schools how are you not then uh you know how do you not then have citizenship right like 43:48.210 --> 43:53.130 like okay fine maybe you can say you know as somebody as an adult who illegally 43:53.610 --> 43:57.890 immigrated here but that's not what's going on with these minors who have been here there 43:57.890 --> 44:05.150 that are now adults that they're extraditing well i i don't have much else to say about the um 44:05.150 --> 44:10.890 i stuff right now i think we we got a bunch of questions and we want to answer them and 44:10.890 --> 44:15.790 i'm really glad i found that article um and i don't know how much the rest of this will 44:15.790 --> 44:20.610 really be worth reading so i'm not going to it was just like all these people um making their 44:20.610 --> 44:25.950 statements like i said is saying oh this is uh actually we're doing really well we even investigators 44:25.950 --> 44:30.150 often know we're doing really well they're saying in custody deaths this past year averaged less 44:30.150 --> 44:34.490 than one percent the lowest in ice history oh see this is exactly what i'm talking about 44:34.490 --> 44:39.150 so so the death rate hasn't gone up it oh the rate i don't think anyone was claiming that the 44:39.150 --> 44:42.590 rate went up in fact i only wanted to read this more because i wanted to know if the amount 44:43.090 --> 44:47.610 that's exactly the point i was making before about you know people are manipulating things 44:47.610 --> 44:52.910 that trump has done and look i don't like trump right but that doesn't mean we should be manipulating 44:52.910 --> 44:58.690 the facts in order to sway opinion in a way that's deceptive and that's what you're doing when 44:58.690 --> 45:03.550 you're saying well deaths have increased under trump uh you know immigration deaths in ice 45:03.550 --> 45:09.070 facilities have increased under trump well yeah but what is it what is that as a percentage 45:09.070 --> 45:14.350 right because if you're detaining more people and those deaths are all natural deaths or you know 45:14.350 --> 45:19.210 they're the same yeah like we didn't get any info about these four deaths that's that's what kind of 45:19.210 --> 45:23.310 bothers me right and and that's the thing like i i don't like trump i don't think we should be 45:23.310 --> 45:27.170 tainting these people at all i don't i don't oh wait yes we do later in the article but we didn't 45:27.170 --> 45:31.910 so far in the article it's like they didn't start with it no of course not later on the 45:31.910 --> 45:36.410 titles are always the titles and the introductory are always the most manipulative it says the 45:36.410 --> 45:40.190 four detainees who recently died were john i'm not going to read their names i'm sorry because 45:40.190 --> 45:48.730 somebody from a Haitian immigrant a bulgarian immigrant and um a nicaraguan detainee and 45:48.730 --> 45:57.470 somebody from Eritrea as i say Eritrea well anyways they it says that i said two of the men 45:57.470 --> 46:02.730 died of natural causes while the other two had medical complications so two of them died of like 46:02.730 --> 46:06.030 old age or something yeah i mean we don't happen to be and we don't necessarily know the 46:06.030 --> 46:12.190 medical complications um i mean that could be that could have been caused by the tell us you know 46:12.190 --> 46:16.470 yeah that right this is the other problem that we have like medical complications for the rat 46:16.470 --> 46:21.670 poison in their food or right right um everything the government says to you is manipulative 46:22.310 --> 46:28.450 or most of it anyway is very manipulative um you really can't trust what and unfortunately you 46:28.450 --> 46:32.990 can't trust the news either because most of the news that you read is like our like government 46:33.450 --> 46:39.070 press releases basically um that have just been rewritten by a reporter right so you could say 46:39.070 --> 46:43.310 like we're listening to the government about a medical thing and i never like that because it's 46:43.310 --> 46:47.730 like the government can't just buy fiat declare that somebody died of natural causes it's like 46:47.730 --> 46:52.790 what let's say he died in his sleep how do how does the government know he didn't die of the 46:52.790 --> 46:57.170 increased stress of being arrested you know what i mean like oh it's just natural and it 46:57.170 --> 47:00.110 would have happened no matter what even if we didn't arrest him we don't know that you know 47:00.110 --> 47:05.290 that i mean so you can die from complications you know whether you're inside a prison or outside of 47:05.290 --> 47:10.810 a prison so it doesn't right that doesn't really tell us you know whether or not the the reason 47:10.810 --> 47:15.030 that you died from those complications was because you were maybe they withheld a medical 47:15.030 --> 47:19.190 proper medical care or you know i mean if they're or something about they withheld proper 47:19.190 --> 47:22.810 medical care and you died of complications as a result of that well then that's a problem 47:22.810 --> 47:27.950 but it could be also that they didn't withhold medical care and uh they died of complicated you 47:27.950 --> 47:32.990 know help medical complications because you know you know it's it's yeah and it says several of 47:32.990 --> 47:37.890 the dust that occurred this year occurred within days of people being taken into ice so if that's 47:37.890 --> 47:43.770 just natural that is a huge coincidence right but yeah i mean it's it's that's i mean that is 47:43.770 --> 47:49.570 another you know concern that's it's like we're detaining people who have medical conditions 47:49.570 --> 47:56.150 and then not providing proper care it's like like you can't or you shouldn't be arresting people who 47:56.150 --> 48:01.190 are about to go into surgery or about to go you know or in the process of going to the hospital 48:01.190 --> 48:04.890 right like i mean there's something there's something morally wrong about that well i just 48:04.890 --> 48:09.930 found another thing with something morally wrong it says this this is um assistant homeland 48:09.930 --> 48:16.330 security secretary trisha mcwafflin she says there have been no spikes in depth as bed 48:16.330 --> 48:20.910 space has been expanded we have maintained higher standard of care than most prisons that 48:20.910 --> 48:25.990 hold us citizens including providing access to proper medical care why are you bragging about that 48:25.990 --> 48:29.990 we shouldn't be uh having prisons in the united states with american citizens 48:29.990 --> 48:36.170 with lower standards of care either you know then the ones people are dying in this is crazy 48:36.170 --> 48:41.550 just just out and admitting that as a way to defend yourself so yeah it's it's it's kind of crazy 48:41.550 --> 48:47.750 the the just the just the i want to use the word diverse that's not probably quite the right word 48:47.750 --> 48:54.150 i'm looking for but um cognitive dissonance no no no like there's there's a wide variety of um 48:55.310 --> 48:59.890 conditions when it comes to prison facilities in the united states yeah that's a good point you can 48:59.890 --> 49:05.150 go to a really nice one or yeah comparatively yeah i mean there's like there's like resort prisons 49:05.150 --> 49:10.430 if you're willing to pay for it even um but at the same time it's there's also you know better 49:10.430 --> 49:14.350 prisons you know conditions and worse prison conditions depending on where yeah it's like 49:14.350 --> 49:18.090 we brought up the valley street thing in new hampshire um it's like a known thing to all new 49:18.090 --> 49:23.010 hampshire people that like oh if you go to jail just go anywhere but valley street you know don't 49:23.010 --> 49:26.910 get arrested we're gonna go to valley and keen actually is a great place to do uh activism 49:26.910 --> 49:35.310 we've always said because keen has uh treasure the treasure uh prison yeah whatever it's called 49:35.310 --> 49:40.410 the jail sorry the treasure jail i don't know and valley street is a jail by the way not a 49:40.410 --> 49:44.230 accidentally makes those words anyway yeah prison is like if you're there for more than a year if they 49:44.230 --> 49:47.770 hold people for more than a year and uh basically you're in a prison but if it's less than a year 49:47.770 --> 49:51.570 then it's in a jail but technically they have people that are in jail for more than a year too 49:51.570 --> 49:56.170 but it's like usually awaiting detention or awaiting sentencing that kind of thing it's 49:56.170 --> 49:59.690 called the sheshire county department of corrections well we call up the sheshire spiritual 49:59.690 --> 50:06.430 retreat and um the uh one of the things about it is though is the conditions are 50:06.430 --> 50:10.810 actually decent um you know relatively speaking obviously you still don't want to be there but 50:11.330 --> 50:16.050 they're they're relatively conditioned by comparison to some place like manchester with valley street 50:16.630 --> 50:21.530 the jail there is is and you know like being in the underground places under new york city 50:21.530 --> 50:25.590 sounds absolutely horrifying where people get forgotten and stuff yeah new york has some 50:25.590 --> 50:29.830 really bad prisons um i don't know like i don't know if there's any decent prisons 50:29.830 --> 50:34.050 in new york but like or acceptable prison conditions but there's definitely some really 50:34.050 --> 50:38.570 bad ones i am aware of i don't know out west there's some prisons that's just a ranch in the 50:38.570 --> 50:44.370 middle of nowhere yeah you know i just send people out to work like cattle and build fences and you 50:44.370 --> 50:48.650 can't run away because you'll just die the one alice johnson was in in alabama was a similar 50:48.650 --> 50:56.430 thing it's like a camp where you work at it well 603 283 61 60 it's free talk live more coming up 50:56.430 --> 51:01.850 and yeah you work as a slave yeah slavery is legal slavery is not illegal in the united states 51:05.630 --> 51:10.690 so the protection of life liberty and property is is what the freestay project all 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insurgents in the country who he claims are persecuting christians fsn's jagruti 53:36.330 --> 53:41.730 david has more from washington donald trump has been threatening military intervention in nigeria 53:41.730 --> 53:47.310 for some time and this was the justification he gave for these strikes which he described as deadly 53:47.310 --> 53:53.090 in a social media post he said isis terrorists scum have been targeting and viciously killing 53:53.090 --> 53:58.310 primarily innocent christians he added merry christmas to all including the dead terrorists 53:58.310 --> 54:04.430 of which there will be many more if their slaughter of christians continues us africa 54:04.430 --> 54:10.830 command said their initial assessment is that multiple isis terrorists were killed in isis camps 54:10.830 --> 54:15.550 the strikes were coordinated with the nigerian government whose foreign minister said they 54:15.550 --> 54:21.210 shared intelligence with the us india in bangladesh summoned each other's envoys over protests 54:21.210 --> 54:27.150 outside their diplomatic missions as already tense ties spiral the latest round of formal 54:27.150 --> 54:32.090 protests come after right-wing groups staged protests in several indian cities 54:32.090 --> 54:38.930 over the killing of a hindu garment worker in bangladesh over allegations of blasphemy fsn's 54:38.930 --> 54:44.090 kshitij nagar has more from new delhi the summoning of the indian high commissioner by bangladesh 54:44.090 --> 54:49.750 is the second such instance in as many days bangladesh officials raised objections 54:49.750 --> 54:54.170 over protests and what they described as a failure to curb demonstrations 54:54.700 --> 55:00.130 and targeting its diplomatic missions the high commission in delhi remains under 55:00.130 --> 55:06.710 heavy police deployment with security tightened and police forces deployed the killing of a hindu 55:06.710 --> 55:12.270 man in northern bangladesh earlier in the month triggered public anger in india and sharpened 55:12.270 --> 55:18.270 concerns over minority safety indian authorities say they are closely tracking developments the 55:18.270 --> 55:23.330 escalation comes amid a broader political uncertainty in bangladesh following the 55:23.330 --> 55:28.970 former prime minister sheik hasina earlier this year us president trump announced a new 55:28.970 --> 55:36.230 type of battleship set to be used by the us navy and it is one named after himself fsn's 55:36.230 --> 55:41.730 mitch mccann reports standing beside the defense secretary and the secretary of state donald trump 55:41.730 --> 55:46.770 announced that the us will build two new trump class battleships mr trump told reporters on 55:46.770 --> 55:51.210 monday he is calling them the golden fleet and said eventually there'll be 25 of them 55:51.210 --> 55:56.670 mr trump said the new ships will have 100 times the force and power of any other battleship 55:56.670 --> 56:00.870 ever built and then there will be nothing else like them the president said that the us has 56:00.870 --> 56:05.850 not built a battleship since 1994 and said each one will be the largest in the history of the 56:05.850 --> 56:11.070 world he said they will command respect but added that the world already respects america 56:11.070 --> 56:18.290 mitch mccann new york from bureaus worldwide this is fsn the us confirmed it carried out 56:18.290 --> 56:24.210 a strike on an alleged drug smuggling boat killing one person along with the seizure of another 56:24.210 --> 56:30.390 venezuelan oil tanker over the weekend it continues the pressure campaign against venezuela's 56:30.390 --> 56:36.730 president nicolas maduro fsn's nick harper reports from washington the us military 56:36.730 --> 56:42.650 confirming that it had killed what it called one narco terrorist had released footage of that 56:42.650 --> 56:49.070 strike with the us southern command confirming on x that it had carried out the attack upon the 56:49.070 --> 56:53.830 direction of defense secretary pete hegseth it said the boat had been transiting along 56:53.830 --> 56:59.370 known narco trafficking routes but all of this is venezuela has called for an urgent 56:59.370 --> 57:04.670 meeting at the u.n security council to push back on what it's called the aggression of the 57:04.670 --> 57:11.110 united states china and russia both coming out with strong support for caracas with china 57:11.110 --> 57:17.410 saying that the us was in serious violation of international law with its continued actions 57:17.410 --> 57:23.330 against venezuela its oil tankers and alleged drug smuggling boats i'm nick harper in washington 57:23.330 --> 57:30.650 a car bomb killed a top military official in moscow fsn's daria bondurchuk reports from the 57:30.650 --> 57:37.310 russian capital a car bomb exploded in southern moscow on monday killing general fanil sarvarov 57:37.310 --> 57:42.870 he headed the operational training directorate of the russian army's general staff the top 57:42.870 --> 57:48.270 military official was blown up in the parking lot of his apartment building reportedly minutes 57:48.270 --> 57:54.130 after he sat in his car and traveled just a few meters he became the third person of his 57:54.130 --> 57:59.530 rank to be killed in car bombing incidents over the past 12 months russia's investigative 57:59.530 --> 58:04.630 committee says lieutenant general sarvarov was killed in explosion possibly orchestrated 58:04.630 --> 58:11.350 by ukrainian intelligence services daria bondurchuk moscow that was a look at some of the week's top 58:11.350 --> 58:19.630 stories iris spitzer reporting after decades of searching the cosmos today nasa announced that 58:19.630 --> 58:24.870 what it was really looking for was right here on planet earth all along for years we foolishly 58:24.870 --> 58:31.210 chased after comets moons and stars outer space may be beautiful but it's not as beautiful as the 58:31.210 --> 58:38.690 child nor is sublime as a good bottle of wine shared among friends our search ends where it began 58:38.690 --> 58:43.970 here on this big blue marble astronomers say that while their telescopes were pointing at mars 58:43.970 --> 58:48.550 they never even noticed the planet that was right in front of them nasa now plans to appreciate 58:48.550 --> 58:54.030 what they already have the agency's latest report entitled wonder is everywhere finding the beauty 58:54.030 --> 58:58.970 in the everyday calls for further study of the little things that truly give life meaning 58:59.850 --> 59:05.590 warm rain on a summer day the smell of pine trees touching the worn paper of your favorite book 59:05.590 --> 59:10.010 that's what's always made us happy not some asteroid a million miles away 59:10.850 --> 59:13.050 this is the onion news network 59:14.950 --> 59:20.770 don't miss a moment of free talk live get our archives daily vr podcast at feeds dot free 59:20.770 --> 59:58.430 talk live dot com free talk live free talk live talk radio that you control and six zero three two 59:58.430 --> 01:00:05.250 eight three six one six zero is the phone number that six zero three two eight three six one six zero 01:00:05.870 --> 01:00:11.710 and free talk live is brought to you by liberty minded dot com official free talk live gear like 01:00:11.710 --> 01:00:16.670 t-shirts and hoodies are available at liberty minded dot com plus you'll find a unique 01:00:16.670 --> 01:00:22.050 collection of cool and funny liberty oriented clothing at liberty minded dot com that's liberty 01:00:22.050 --> 01:00:28.330 minded dot com and to get in on the air with us six zero three two eight three six one six zero 01:00:28.330 --> 01:00:33.110 and you can bring up whatever's on your mind just just recently i was listening to a video where 01:00:33.110 --> 01:00:42.270 somebody talked about um a call to coast to coast it was a youtube video about this call to coast 01:00:42.750 --> 01:00:48.490 back when art bell was in charge of it and how people there's conspiracy theories that it's what 01:00:48.490 --> 01:00:54.790 got him taken off the air like got him taken out and um i left a comment i was like oh people because 01:00:54.790 --> 01:01:00.030 the guy in the article or in the video was like oh i just miss radio like this and i was like radio 01:01:00.030 --> 01:01:04.590 like this exists you can call into free talk live about anything i mean you can still call into 01:01:04.590 --> 01:01:09.530 coast to coast but i don't even know i i don't know the specifics about coast to coast uh like 01:01:09.530 --> 01:01:14.850 if they'll just let anyone on is what i'm saying like oh if there's not like a screener i don't know 01:01:14.850 --> 01:01:20.270 i don't even know that's like or if he just does interviews like every time i've listened to coast 01:01:20.270 --> 01:01:23.530 to coast because it's still a thing like i've listened to coast to coast on and off every 01:01:23.530 --> 01:01:29.050 once in a while never like as much as i listened to free talk live but um it was always like an 01:01:29.050 --> 01:01:34.170 a person that was on to talk about it like not just calls like the art bell thing was just 01:01:34.170 --> 01:01:39.170 like people calling in and that was so fun and and cool like i didn't watch that was obviously 01:01:39.170 --> 01:01:45.050 before my time too i'm pretty sure that he was like the 90s or maybe like early 2000s when art bell 01:01:45.050 --> 01:01:49.010 stopped being on but i mean i was live but i wasn't listening to yeah i wasn't listening to talk radio 01:01:49.010 --> 01:01:55.890 back then yeah but um with you on the free on free talk live you've got me bonnie angelo and 01:01:55.890 --> 01:02:02.190 mr penguin and mr penguin you brought in an article that's gonna have a lot of words uh in the 01:02:02.190 --> 01:02:07.930 in the title wish pile explained to people the supreme court is debating whether isp can isp 01:02:07.930 --> 01:02:15.350 providers or internet service providers can kick people off for piracy yeah and this isn't the piracy 01:02:15.350 --> 01:02:22.910 like on the high seas yeah there's no actual um deprivation of um anything going on in these cases 01:02:22.910 --> 01:02:27.710 that they're talking about downloading uh music movies that kind of thing um from the internet 01:02:27.710 --> 01:02:35.930 from a source where basically a copyright holder isn't getting a cut um so um yeah so 01:02:35.930 --> 01:02:43.770 basically this is a huge huge huge case um it involves a liability for isp's and her service 01:02:43.770 --> 01:02:52.530 providers and whether or not they have to you know kick you off the internet um if they if they're 01:02:52.530 --> 01:02:58.690 informed that you might be pirating uh doing some sort of piracy um now this is based on 01:02:58.690 --> 01:03:04.430 mere accusation not some sort of evidence or court so um it would be one thing if it was 01:03:04.430 --> 01:03:08.810 a court saying okay you've been convicted of this now you now that now the internet service 01:03:08.810 --> 01:03:12.770 provider has to kick you off nope all that has to happen is somebody has to make an accusation 01:03:12.770 --> 01:03:17.050 against you oh like a neighbor can make an accusation against you uh i mean generally it's 01:03:17.050 --> 01:03:20.850 going to be some sort of copyright holder um you don't have to make an accusation against you 01:03:20.850 --> 01:03:25.230 but yeah a neighbor could potentially do it too i mean all it requires is somebody to basically 01:03:25.230 --> 01:03:31.330 email your isp with your ip address and make a claim that you pirated something um and 01:03:31.330 --> 01:03:35.350 what does the isp know the isp doesn't know what you're doing with your internet can i mean they 01:03:35.350 --> 01:03:38.830 they could look at i mean maybe they could look into it but the point is that if you're not 01:03:38.830 --> 01:03:42.890 currently pirating something the isp isn't necessarily going to know what you did yesterday 01:03:42.890 --> 01:03:49.290 right so they can't even evaluate whether or not the claim you know is valid or invalid right 01:03:50.430 --> 01:03:53.490 yeah it's crazy right yeah i would have thought that they have that all 01:03:54.250 --> 01:03:58.390 like documented and everything like everything you do no all they all they're gonna get 01:03:58.390 --> 01:04:05.430 is is a accusation and it might say you know something was being shared with such and such 01:04:05.430 --> 01:04:11.930 application on this port on this date but if that's not actually ongoing the isp can't verify it 01:04:11.930 --> 01:04:17.350 right it's just an accusation now if if you're still doing it maybe they can verify it but if 01:04:17.350 --> 01:04:22.710 you're not still doing it they can't verify that um and it's not necessarily the case that 01:04:22.710 --> 01:04:26.590 they can verify it anyway because that means they also have to have some sort of application 01:04:26.590 --> 01:04:32.470 to be able to verify it right um it's not like there there's all sorts there's thousands of 01:04:32.470 --> 01:04:35.890 different types of applications protocols out there on the internet it's it's unreasonable to 01:04:35.890 --> 01:04:40.190 expect that the an internet service provider has every single type of program and application 01:04:40.190 --> 01:04:44.370 where they're going to be able to go and check to see whether or not you know even even if 01:04:44.370 --> 01:04:50.770 you were still going and still doing it right still pirating something um anyway so here's 01:04:50.770 --> 01:04:54.930 this is the title of the story spring court um so i actually swapped out one story for another 01:04:54.930 --> 01:05:00.130 this one's from torrent freak uh these other one was even longer of the us though right this is the 01:05:00.130 --> 01:05:07.710 us spring court yep supreme court can isps be liable for piracy by doing nothing so um here goes uh 01:05:07.710 --> 01:05:12.830 can an isp be liable for piracy simply by doing nothing yesterday's supreme court addressed this 01:05:12.830 --> 01:05:20.170 billion dollar question so basically uh cox is an isp that was sued and held uh getting 01:05:20.170 --> 01:05:24.390 convicted basically at multiple levels um on appeal basically they were convicted and 01:05:24.390 --> 01:05:28.650 eventually it's hit the supreme court now and they're saying we we knew that people were 01:05:28.650 --> 01:05:33.770 pirating on our network but we didn't know about any specific instance um and and so 01:05:33.770 --> 01:05:38.930 that's that's basically the question while record labels argue that cox turned a blind 01:05:38.930 --> 01:05:43.710 eye to habitual abusers the isp warned that expanding liability without proof of an active 01:05:43.710 --> 01:05:48.470 internet or i'm sorry active intent would turn internet providers into internet police 01:05:49.180 --> 01:05:56.350 not only internet police but uh what what's the phrasing um uh criminals like no uh 01:05:56.350 --> 01:06:02.990 prosecution judge both judge and jury judge jury and yeah like prosecutor judge dread no 01:06:02.990 --> 01:06:07.070 yeah but there it's like judge it's it's like it's all it's not even that it's the police 01:06:07.070 --> 01:06:13.150 it's like a police officer it's like law enforcement a judge prosecutor all in one 01:06:13.150 --> 01:06:18.470 and a jury and jury yeah all in one basically the idea is like oh you're making us have to 01:06:19.190 --> 01:06:24.230 uh enforce this ourselves piece almost and it's actually not even that it's it's going 01:06:24.230 --> 01:06:28.550 beyond that because they don't even get to the isp doesn't even get to decide because if they decide 01:06:28.550 --> 01:06:33.750 to not um kick you off and there's an accusation then they'll get in trouble then they're 01:06:33.750 --> 01:06:36.790 going to get in trouble and then there's going to be billions of dollars that they're held 01:06:36.790 --> 01:06:41.930 liable for that's basically like the whole idea where people were being becoming enforcers 01:06:41.930 --> 01:06:48.930 of the state during covid by being uh their their stores were kicking people out and and they were 01:06:48.930 --> 01:06:53.150 saying like like in some cases i think in some states they literally would have gotten in trouble 01:06:53.150 --> 01:06:57.430 if they weren't kicking people out yeah yeah i don't know if it's i don't know if i'd say that's 01:06:57.430 --> 01:07:03.110 similar but um but it's yeah it's it's like it's messed up sure um making you have to enforce 01:07:03.110 --> 01:07:08.750 the government's rules and if you don't you get in trouble yeah but it's like it's even 01:07:08.750 --> 01:07:15.750 way worse than that um because there's there's no no evidence there's no evidence uh there's no jury 01:07:15.750 --> 01:07:22.590 there's no judge you know you know to decide there's no independent a body to decide you know did you 01:07:22.590 --> 01:07:28.190 or did you not do what this third party is is accusing you know accusing your customer of 01:07:28.190 --> 01:07:33.390 and um if you don't if you decide not to kick them off oh it's judge jury and executioner 01:07:33.390 --> 01:07:36.410 that's it yeah okay i was like i didn't know there's like somewhere we were missing yeah 01:07:36.410 --> 01:07:40.690 yeah yeah we were meaning like oh you're telling us to yeah but but again this is more than just 01:07:40.690 --> 01:07:46.030 judge jury and executioner it's judge jury executioner and law enforcement yeah um because 01:07:46.030 --> 01:07:51.070 they want you they basically want you to arrest them and then and then you know judge them and 01:07:51.070 --> 01:07:54.470 execute them but there's no there's no judging here going on really if you think about it 01:07:54.470 --> 01:07:59.550 because they just want the they just want the arrest part and the execution um they don't want 01:07:59.550 --> 01:08:05.210 any kind of you know trial because then or proof of anything right right right right 01:08:05.210 --> 01:08:09.990 right uh police and threaten essential access for okay so let me back up a second here um 01:08:09.990 --> 01:08:15.110 let's see here uh well record labels argue that the cocks turn a blind eye to habitual abusers 01:08:15.110 --> 01:08:20.050 the isp warned that extending liability without proof of active internet or active intent sorry 01:08:20.050 --> 01:08:23.630 would turn internet providers into internet police and threaten essential access 01:08:23.630 --> 01:08:28.650 for hospitals schools or even entire towns it's actually even worse than this 01:08:28.650 --> 01:08:34.470 because there's okay so there's only seven or so companies uh that provide internet access in 01:08:34.470 --> 01:08:41.050 the united states they're what are called backbone providers every other isp more or less connects to 01:08:41.050 --> 01:08:47.030 one of these seven companies um in order for your like internet to travel through right um to 01:08:47.030 --> 01:08:51.870 get from one plate one destination to the other so if they're forced to comply with this rule 01:08:51.870 --> 01:08:58.850 they're basically cutting off companies like Comcast and Cox and AT&T well actually AT&T is one 01:08:58.850 --> 01:09:03.430 of the backbone providers but the point that I'm making is that your isp is literally going to 01:09:03.430 --> 01:09:09.490 get cut off from the internet because one of their customers is pirating like a customer that's 01:09:09.490 --> 01:09:16.150 not even you right it's it's it's a downstream customer right so it it's absolutely crazy but 01:09:16.150 --> 01:09:22.370 that's basically what the uh entertainment cartel are demanding there's so much info in this article 01:09:22.370 --> 01:09:30.250 i'm kind of like probably missing a few things so where with this i this um case where are we at 01:09:30.250 --> 01:09:37.390 it's like somebody suit a maybe a record label or something sued some an isp and now they're 01:09:37.390 --> 01:09:41.290 in the supreme court the supreme court is actually considering it right now so the 01:09:41.290 --> 01:09:45.510 entertainment cartel so the copyright industry hollywood has basically been going around suing 01:09:45.510 --> 01:09:51.350 isps cox is one of the early ones that got sued they got found guilty at a trial level at a district 01:09:51.350 --> 01:09:58.270 court level they appealed it the appeal court you know found uh cox to basically they upheld the 01:09:58.270 --> 01:10:02.450 lower court ruling basically they were guilty still yeah um it's now been appealed to the 01:10:02.450 --> 01:10:08.210 us supreme court it's it's something along those lines i maybe there's like other courts or 01:10:08.210 --> 01:10:11.650 something in there that i'm not thinking of or i'm not using the right answer my question 01:10:11.650 --> 01:10:17.790 yeah for the layman i think they understand what i'm saying all right the supreme court case between 01:10:17.790 --> 01:10:22.050 several major record labels so several major record labels and internet provider cox so 01:10:22.050 --> 01:10:27.830 that basically they teamed up they um uh what's the word they uh cartel um they cartel up 01:10:27.830 --> 01:10:33.190 in order to go after cox communication um okay let's see here's one of the landmark battles 01:10:33.810 --> 01:10:38.650 of this decade yeah i mean i i don't even think this is a landmark battle of this decade i 01:10:38.650 --> 01:10:42.970 think this is more like a landmark battle of the century here um i mean this is huge i mean 01:10:42.970 --> 01:10:48.870 think about it um if your kid pirates somebody or your your friend's kid connects to your internet 01:10:48.870 --> 01:10:54.090 and they pirate something um now you get kicked off the internet your whole household gets kicked 01:10:54.090 --> 01:10:59.330 off the internet your whole school gets kicked off the internet all because one person yeah your 01:10:59.330 --> 01:11:04.730 business gets kicked off the internet um i mean if this goes into effect don't you how would 01:11:04.730 --> 01:11:10.390 any court a pulp is you're never going to be able to connect to a wi-fi hotspot anywhere ever again 01:11:10.390 --> 01:11:15.110 because think about it that business if you do something if you do something that they that's 01:11:15.110 --> 01:11:19.130 piracy and they get accused of piracy that means that they lose their internet connection 01:11:19.130 --> 01:11:23.830 they don't it's not just that they can't provide internet service to their customers anymore 01:11:24.330 --> 01:11:28.550 they lose their internet connection meaning they can't do business orders right like like how 01:11:28.550 --> 01:11:33.790 do you how do you operate without the internet as a business these days you can't um so it 01:11:33.790 --> 01:11:39.050 basically ensures that you will not be able to connect to any kind of wi-fi hotspot anywhere um 01:11:39.050 --> 01:11:43.190 you know unless you're maybe paying for it basically you know some sort of payment is 01:11:43.190 --> 01:11:47.390 going to somebody for it and even then you're not going to be able to do it even even then 01:11:47.390 --> 01:11:51.290 you're not going to be able to do it because you're restricted as heck too like yeah yeah i mean 01:11:51.290 --> 01:11:56.150 like unless you're an isp and even if you are an isp you're gonna have to lock down not 01:11:56.150 --> 01:11:59.770 only are you as an isp you're gonna have to lock down the internet to such a degree 01:11:59.770 --> 01:12:04.590 that you can't like do anything like you can't torrent files like torrenting people 01:12:04.590 --> 01:12:08.470 think that torrenting is only for piracy but that's not true there's all sorts of torrenting 01:12:08.470 --> 01:12:14.150 that's going on for games uh like updates update update like game updates that kind of thing where 01:12:14.150 --> 01:12:18.290 terror or gigabyte i don't know about terabytes maybe gigabytes and gigabytes of data not illegal 01:12:18.290 --> 01:12:22.270 right not illegal completely legal so like you're the updates the security updates for 01:12:22.270 --> 01:12:26.690 your games or the game updates that you get those are all using some sort of torrent type 01:12:26.690 --> 01:12:31.550 technology um that's going to be blocked you know all of this stuff is going to be blocked it's 01:12:31.550 --> 01:12:37.030 basically going to make the internet unusable at that point because you know short of um you know 01:12:37.030 --> 01:12:43.310 a some sort of white list of websites you know um and and think about it like you in theory 01:12:43.310 --> 01:12:47.650 you can't even like allow somebody to go on youtube because youtube has content that's 01:12:47.650 --> 01:12:50.990 illegal and if you download something from youtube that's illegal and somebody somehow 01:12:50.990 --> 01:12:56.210 how sends a you know uh dc d mca you know then you'd have to kick off your customer 01:12:56.210 --> 01:13:01.530 you know from the internet basically um i google like some legitimate uses for torrents and it says 01:13:01.530 --> 01:13:08.170 um some large scale companies use bid torrent as part of of their dev ops development operations to 01:13:08.170 --> 01:13:16.230 quickly deploy your code oh yeah cluster of servers um any large files um it can be or 01:13:16.230 --> 01:13:22.590 can be used uh downloaded that way um and it says an example well this one has an example it says 01:13:23.170 --> 01:13:28.490 some linux distributions offer bit torrent downloads to save on bandwidth and game companies 01:13:28.490 --> 01:13:32.890 like blizzard use it to distribute distribute the game client or patches for their games 01:13:32.890 --> 01:13:37.710 torrent is used for anybody or any company trying to distribute large files okay yep that's that's 01:13:37.710 --> 01:13:42.430 basically some of it um yeah my company uses torrents you know all the time i mean we we use 01:13:42.430 --> 01:13:47.190 both it from a from a customer our customers use it from that perspective and we use it from 01:13:47.190 --> 01:13:53.590 that perspective uh to download isos which are basically um um insulate it's installation media 01:13:53.590 --> 01:13:59.450 basically for operating system so my my company we um we ship we ship computers um and we have to 01:13:59.450 --> 01:14:03.670 get those operating systems somehow and in order to download them well the fastest the best way 01:14:03.670 --> 01:14:07.710 to do it is using a torrent so we use a torrent and this is all legal this isn't illegal this 01:14:07.710 --> 01:14:13.870 isn't piracy um but basically the courts would you know by making this ruling say well isps can't 01:14:13.870 --> 01:14:19.990 allow torrents because you know torrents can be used for piracy um therefore you know um either 01:14:19.990 --> 01:14:26.450 you kick them off or again like this all goes back to the big seven i backbone isp providers 01:14:26.450 --> 01:14:31.830 they're gonna have to kick off you know the big isp's like comcast and cox and you know 01:14:31.830 --> 01:14:36.450 all of these companies that rely on them because they are customers of the backbone 01:14:36.450 --> 01:14:43.430 providers and and so it like this literally does not work um it's there's no way that you 01:14:43.430 --> 01:14:47.170 can possibly mean no matter how much you walk down this is why it's no way you can make this work 01:14:47.170 --> 01:14:50.590 from a technical perspective how to get this far how to get to this yeah i was going to be like 01:14:50.590 --> 01:14:56.490 yeah what how are these lower courts upholding these decisions insane yeah i mean it's it's 01:14:56.490 --> 01:15:01.390 crazy i mean a lot of you know a lot of this is comes down to bullying i think is what it 01:15:01.390 --> 01:15:08.110 ultimately comes down to behavior yeah cartel behavior bullying um and um you know you know at 01:15:08.110 --> 01:15:14.750 the end of the day um it basically is going to empower copyright cartels or the entertainment 01:15:14.750 --> 01:15:19.690 cartel uh to basically kick anybody they want off the internet anytime they want that's basically 01:15:19.690 --> 01:15:25.110 what's going to happen um and um and presumably their isp's are going to have to comply because 01:15:25.110 --> 01:15:30.450 if they don't well their business gets shut down because the isp will get sued um into the 01:15:30.450 --> 01:15:38.250 ground so yeah i mean it's like yeah i mean even if even if it doesn't get as draconian as 01:15:38.250 --> 01:15:46.290 you know it would the the the ruling itself is um it's going to have a massive impact 01:15:46.290 --> 01:15:51.990 you know on everybody basically um and it's it's not it's not this isn't the only example 01:15:51.990 --> 01:15:57.890 of bullying that goes on um the um the state the state government uh the state governments 01:15:57.890 --> 01:16:03.810 basically you know teamed up and they passed these laws on tax collection basically and the 01:16:03.810 --> 01:16:10.890 us supreme court upheld the they overturned a prior ruling actually um that said that businesses that 01:16:11.710 --> 01:16:16.890 are not in your state um they basically don't normally have to collect sales tax or they didn't 01:16:16.890 --> 01:16:21.970 it was a catalog back in the days of catalogs but now any business it doesn't matter where 01:16:21.970 --> 01:16:25.290 the business is located in the united states they have to collect sales tax for 01:16:25.290 --> 01:16:30.830 10 000 plus different taxing jurisdictions now that's not actually technically possible um because 01:16:30.830 --> 01:16:37.230 the taxes are based on the the the shipping address basically but there's 10 000 different 01:16:37.230 --> 01:16:43.690 taxing jurisdictions there's no database of addresses that align with what taxing jurisdiction 01:16:43.690 --> 01:16:49.130 any given address is in so your your literally every company on the internet today is literally 01:16:49.130 --> 01:16:55.970 violating the law as it is written and decided basically by the courts yeah and now you know 01:16:55.970 --> 01:16:59.530 you could now we could say oh the internet or the the whole internet is going to collapse 01:16:59.530 --> 01:17:04.390 because of it but what actually happens is that the states now have this huge amount of power 01:17:04.390 --> 01:17:08.290 to basically bully companies to do what they want yeah enforce it selectively or something 01:17:08.290 --> 01:17:14.470 yeah selective enforcement exactly when did that become law um so the supreme court over 01:17:14.470 --> 01:17:20.650 it's really weird because the supreme court overrolled a prior precedent so it became a law 01:17:20.650 --> 01:17:26.370 when that prior precedent was overturned but the laws themselves don't align with the 01:17:26.370 --> 01:17:32.030 precedent because the law prior to that what the federal law prior to that was that states don't 01:17:32.030 --> 01:17:37.030 if you don't operate in a state you don't have to collect sales taxes so states have laws 01:17:37.030 --> 01:17:41.610 for sales taxes that say if you collect sales taxes you have to have a you have to have 01:17:41.610 --> 01:17:46.170 an address in the state well that means that you're going to have 50 different states you're 01:17:46.170 --> 01:17:50.290 going to have to set up a business and in order to collect sales tax for well it's not 01:17:50.290 --> 01:17:53.970 quite 50 states because all of them have sales tax but you get what i'm saying basically you're 01:17:53.970 --> 01:17:59.290 in order to have a customer from any state you have to have a address there yeah so in order 01:17:59.290 --> 01:18:05.070 for me to collect sales tax for a good that i shipped to california california law says i have 01:18:05.070 --> 01:18:08.870 to set up a business in california before i can collect sales tax but then you're 01:18:08.870 --> 01:18:13.250 subject to california tax code at that point for your business so you're gonna have to pay well 01:18:13.250 --> 01:18:19.670 the supreme court made me lie made you liable simply because you shipped to somebody in california 01:18:19.670 --> 01:18:24.350 yeah i get that but it's saying like you have to open a business there to collect the sales tax 01:18:24.350 --> 01:18:29.490 wouldn't that make you also burdened to the other business taxes in california yeah yeah yeah 01:18:29.490 --> 01:18:32.890 theoretically so they would just bankrupt you overnight you have to open 50 new this is 01:18:32.890 --> 01:18:35.550 what i'm saying like there's all these laws that don't make any sense that they don't work 01:18:35.550 --> 01:18:40.770 nothing you know but what but we don't but the point that i'm trying to make here is that we didn't 01:18:40.770 --> 01:18:47.370 see the internet retailers go out of business what we saw was basically every single retailer 01:18:47.370 --> 01:18:53.470 charging some arbitrary amount of tax that isn't accurate relative to what you're supposed to be 01:18:53.470 --> 01:18:58.030 what they're supposed to be paying tax wise start um it's been a couple years now okay well um 01:18:58.030 --> 01:19:05.530 but now so in new hampshire we don't see this because we don't have a sales tax in 01:19:05.530 --> 01:19:10.090 good shipping into new hampshire so you'll never see in new hampshire a a sales tax at checkout 01:19:10.090 --> 01:19:15.130 but every uh almost every other state you're going to now see a sales tax and that sales tax about 01:19:15.130 --> 01:19:20.250 isn't going to be accurate um it's yeah it's it's absolutely crazy and you might be wondering 01:19:20.250 --> 01:19:25.030 well how do how do brick and mortar businesses do it right well brick and mortar businesses do it 01:19:25.030 --> 01:19:30.190 i don't have a problem with this because the tax collections uh the tax laws are only going 01:19:30.190 --> 01:19:35.910 to be applicable to where the business is operating so if i go into a staples or a best buy or some 01:19:35.910 --> 01:19:41.650 local retailer that store has to know the has to know at most three different taxing jurisdictions 01:19:41.650 --> 01:19:45.990 the the laws for three different taxing jurisdictions because it's it's not where the 01:19:45.990 --> 01:19:51.530 customer is uh lives that they're the taxes are determined based on it's where the the 01:19:51.530 --> 01:19:56.770 goods are sold that it's being determined on but if it's an online retailer that's not the 01:19:56.770 --> 01:20:03.990 case it's it's where the customer it lives not where you're shipping from what the that's so stupid 01:20:03.990 --> 01:20:08.490 to and the other thing is um i was just having a conversation with people recently and i don't 01:20:08.490 --> 01:20:13.730 remember like the topic but it doesn't matter as much i was just saying like this is why we care 01:20:14.930 --> 01:20:18.810 about laws even if they're not enforced because the government can just decide 01:20:19.330 --> 01:20:23.770 well now we're enforcing it selectively they can shut anybody down so any business they want 01:20:23.770 --> 01:20:31.610 to shut down uh you know pretty much any state can stick stick their uh you know tax their irs on 01:20:31.610 --> 01:20:38.050 that business that out of state business because some of the goods uh that customers in that or 01:20:38.050 --> 01:20:41.890 some of their some of their i don't want to say citizens but it doesn't really they don't have 01:20:41.890 --> 01:20:45.510 to be citizens necessarily but people somebody in their state that was in their state received 01:20:45.510 --> 01:20:50.510 goods from a business out of state yeah it's it's crazy um and because it's impossible to 01:20:50.510 --> 01:20:53.450 comply technically speaking with the tax law they can basically come in and shut you down 01:20:53.450 --> 01:20:58.670 or or tax you to death uh basically say you owe this amount of tax but you only collected that 01:20:58.670 --> 01:21:03.010 amount of tax and if you collected too much tax well then you've committed another crime 01:21:03.010 --> 01:21:09.850 because you've committed some sort of fraud well that's crazy how would that work like if you 01:21:09.850 --> 01:21:15.510 let's say like for online ordering if you live like on a border like if i live in massachusetts 01:21:15.510 --> 01:21:20.490 but i get my i purchase groceries in new hampshire and i order stuff like to pick up 01:21:20.490 --> 01:21:25.910 they've already been trying to do stuff about that like in in uh the convenience stores they all 01:21:25.910 --> 01:21:33.430 had to do audits of where they are getting their suppliers from because it's this weird thing where 01:21:33.430 --> 01:21:39.110 they're saying like people are um buying cigarettes from other states and selling them in new 01:21:39.110 --> 01:21:45.290 hampshire and somehow that's making new hampshire the state lose out on taxes and so they made 01:21:45.290 --> 01:21:49.470 them sit down and audit all of where they're getting their every supply from and send 01:21:49.470 --> 01:21:53.850 that list to me so yeah i know i only heard about this because we know if somebody that 01:21:53.850 --> 01:21:57.870 runs a convenience store and he could give you the better the details more correctly but it's 01:21:57.870 --> 01:22:02.630 basically that yeah it's i don't know what's happened in that regard but um yeah it's the 01:22:02.630 --> 01:22:07.050 the laws are crazy and the enforcement's crazy and it's arbitrary religious start or a run of 01:22:07.050 --> 01:22:13.170 business it does it really does free talk live coming up 603 283 6160 call in with whatever's on 01:22:13.170 --> 01:22:21.650 your mind if you're looking for work you know what i mean by elevator speech it's the short version 01:22:21.650 --> 01:22:28.110 saying just enough to make the listener want to listen more even if you're not a job seeker 01:22:28.110 --> 01:22:35.290 effective communication skills have never been more important with money and attention so scarce now 01:22:35.290 --> 01:22:42.830 so to cut through the clutter choose every single word as though it was the last word 01:22:42.830 --> 01:22:50.810 the person you're speaking to will hear otherwise it might be instead of saying due to the fact that 01:22:51.590 --> 01:23:01.810 say because and avoid mispronunciations say jewelry not jewelry which could offend undoubtedly you 01:23:01.810 --> 01:23:07.970 don't want to say undoubtedly and whatever you do never use a preposition to end a sentence with 01:23:08.470 --> 01:23:16.090 just kidding for more tips hit survival speech dot com i'm holland cook from feature story news in 01:23:16.090 --> 01:23:21.910 san francisco i'm ira spitzer with a look back at some of the week's top stories the united states 01:23:21.910 --> 01:23:28.350 launched airstrikes against isis in the north of nigeria on christmas day us president donald 01:23:28.350 --> 01:23:33.250 trump said they were to send a message to insurgents in the country who he claims are 01:23:33.250 --> 01:23:39.870 persecuting christians fsn's jagruti davai has more from washington donald trump has been threatening 01:23:39.870 --> 01:23:45.350 military intervention in nigeria for some time and this was the justification he gave for these 01:23:45.350 --> 01:23:51.510 strikes which he described as deadly in a social media post he said isis terrorists scum have been 01:23:51.510 --> 01:23:57.090 targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians he added merry christmas to all 01:23:57.090 --> 01:24:02.130 including the dead terrorists of which there will be many more if their slaughter of christians 01:24:02.130 --> 01:24:09.510 continues us africa command said their initial assessment is that multiple isis terrorists were 01:24:09.510 --> 01:24:15.170 killed in isis camps the strikes were coordinated with the nigerian government whose foreign minister 01:24:15.170 --> 01:24:20.850 said they shared intelligence with the us india in bangladesh summoned each other's envoys over 01:24:20.850 --> 01:24:26.990 protests outside their diplomatic missions as already tense ties spiral the latest round of 01:24:26.990 --> 01:24:33.090 formal protests come after right-wing groups staged protests in several indian cities over the 01:24:33.090 --> 01:24:39.970 killing of a hindu garment worker in bangladesh over allegations of blasphemy fsn's kshitij nagar 01:24:39.970 --> 01:24:44.190 has more from new deli the summoning of the indian high commissioner by bangladesh 01:24:44.190 --> 01:24:50.430 is the second such instance in as many days bangladesh officials raised objections over 01:24:50.430 --> 01:24:56.090 protests and what they describe as a failure to curb demonstrations and targeting its 01:24:56.090 --> 01:25:01.510 diplomatic missions the high commission in deli remains under heavy police deployment 01:25:01.510 --> 01:25:08.090 with security tightened and police forces deployed the killing of a hindu man in northern bangladesh 01:25:08.090 --> 01:25:13.750 earlier in the month shigat public anger in india and sharpened concerns over minority 01:25:13.750 --> 01:25:19.650 safety indian authorities say they are closely tracking developments the escalation comes amid 01:25:19.650 --> 01:25:24.730 broader political uncertainty in bangladesh following the ouster of former prime minister 01:25:24.730 --> 01:25:30.950 sheik asena earlier this year us president trump announced a new type of battleship set to be used 01:25:30.950 --> 01:25:39.010 by the us navy and it is one named after himself fsn's mitch mccan reports standing beside the 01:25:39.010 --> 01:25:43.590 defense secretary and the secretary of state donald trump announced that the us will build two 01:25:43.590 --> 01:25:48.150 new trump class battleships mr trump told reporters on monday he is calling them the 01:25:48.150 --> 01:25:53.030 golden fleet and said eventually there'll be 25 of them mr trump said the new ships will 01:25:53.030 --> 01:25:58.610 have 100 times the force and power of any other battleship ever built at india will be nothing 01:25:58.610 --> 01:26:04.130 else like them the president said that the us has not built a battleship since 1994 and said each 01:26:04.130 --> 01:26:09.070 one will be the largest in the history of the world he said they will command respect but added 01:26:09.070 --> 01:26:15.970 that the world already respects america from bureaus worldwide this is fs we're still not 01:26:15.970 --> 01:26:20.730 sure why you'd want to watch but our video feed is 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free talk live you've got me 01:27:31.630 --> 01:27:37.990 bonnie angelo and mr penguin and we are going to get into this article from the hill dot com 01:27:38.810 --> 01:27:45.210 it's an opinion piece and it says wait how's an opinion piece okay well maybe no maybe they're 01:27:45.210 --> 01:27:50.690 saying like no yeah this is somebody's opinion piece it's a the views expressed by contributors 01:27:50.690 --> 01:27:56.670 and are their own and not that of the hill okay we are the free world now it's in quotations 01:27:56.670 --> 01:28:02.430 europe declares war on free speech in the u.s and i don't know what that means we are the 01:28:02.430 --> 01:28:09.750 free world now what are they saying so it says we are the free world now those words from rafael 01:28:09.750 --> 01:28:15.870 gluxman a french social socialist member of the european parliament wow they've just got straight 01:28:15.870 --> 01:28:23.110 up socialists on the european parliament or in what even is is that like the the governing body of 01:28:23.110 --> 01:28:28.910 the e you is that the european parliament is that what they call them i honestly don't even 01:28:28.910 --> 01:28:35.150 people don't understand this but the europe has been very uh you know the communists didn't 01:28:35.150 --> 01:28:41.890 disappear the communists are still there um they're just operating under democratic you know a system 01:28:41.890 --> 01:28:47.870 basically it says um the european parliament is the directly elected legislative body of the e you 01:28:47.870 --> 01:28:53.930 representing e u citizens and sharing law making budgetary and supervisory powers with the council 01:28:53.930 --> 01:29:01.650 of the e you so the people in the country vote for their e you yeah they they voted in the communists 01:29:01.650 --> 01:29:06.550 they voted in the socialists yeah yeah i get that right yeah but i'm just saying i'm just confused on 01:29:06.550 --> 01:29:12.670 how the e you part of i didn't i didn't know it was a parliament me either what ran the european 01:29:12.670 --> 01:29:20.270 union i thought it was more of like a un kind of thing but no no no well no i mean they call 01:29:20.270 --> 01:29:26.190 it a parliament but the so each individual country okay so the way the e you works is that each individual 01:29:26.190 --> 01:29:31.930 so when they pass a law at the e you level it's passed by parliament but then each individual 01:29:31.930 --> 01:29:36.930 country has to implement that law basically they have a lot of people in this parliament too 01:29:37.470 --> 01:29:43.130 oh sorry did you have more to say no um i i said how many reps do each country get in european 01:29:43.130 --> 01:29:48.210 parliament says each e you country gets a different number of members of the european parliament 01:29:48.210 --> 01:29:53.370 based on its population so i thought that was going to be like one two three four five says the 01:29:53.370 --> 01:30:00.230 minimum of what any like the smallest country only has six in a maximum have 90 seat six seats in 01:30:00.230 --> 01:30:09.750 their country totaling 720 m e p's um that's members european and peon parliament for one term 01:30:09.750 --> 01:30:16.230 yeah that's a lot which is a five-year term germany has 96 how many how many so there was 01:30:16.230 --> 01:30:21.210 did you say it was like 700 something uh seven hundred twenty and that's all of them together 01:30:21.210 --> 01:30:27.870 luxembourg and cyprus and malta only have six while germany has 96 france has 81 spain has 61 01:30:27.870 --> 01:30:32.570 so if you think about it so the united so in new hampshire has one of the largest 01:30:33.310 --> 01:30:39.110 house of representatives in the united states with about 400 reps yep um and so um i think there 01:30:39.110 --> 01:30:42.690 is there might be what the what's up what's what is the number of reps at the federal level 01:30:42.690 --> 01:30:47.210 it's like i think it might be more than that um but in the house of representatives i think 01:30:47.210 --> 01:30:52.810 everybody gets two in that solid right or that that's the house though i'm not sure how many i think 01:30:52.810 --> 01:30:58.850 it's like 455 or something right around there yeah so basically yeah you're right in in terms of that 01:30:58.850 --> 01:31:05.290 parliament being huge at the edu level but the other thing to remember though is the population 01:31:05.290 --> 01:31:09.590 numbers too so um what's the population of europe versus the population of say the united 01:31:09.590 --> 01:31:15.010 states um the population of europe is larger than the population of the united states um so 01:31:15.010 --> 01:31:21.550 and um i know that new hampshire is 400 right in the house yes but it's a very very small 01:31:21.550 --> 01:31:26.490 population yeah there's only 1.6 million people in new hampshire 1.4 million yeah i think it's 01:31:26.490 --> 01:31:30.610 like 1.4 i've heard something like like 1.3 1.4 something like that you're represented with 01:31:31.090 --> 01:31:36.270 4 000 other people as or was that it like 2000 but yeah i yeah it's something like that 01:31:36.270 --> 01:31:40.630 that could be easy math to somebody who can do that and i'm not going to do the math um i just 01:31:40.630 --> 01:31:44.630 that's just what i remember i've heard it before and now i'm just realizing that's that sounds a 01:31:44.630 --> 01:31:49.030 little off but i don't know anyways um either way so when you're looking at it in a population 01:31:49.030 --> 01:31:55.730 density kind of way you have way more people that the way fewer people that are being represented 01:31:55.730 --> 01:32:01.210 by one house of representative in new hampshire than anywhere else that i know of you know what 01:32:01.210 --> 01:32:07.390 i mean like state country i think we have the largest house um in the country definitely that's 01:32:07.390 --> 01:32:12.110 true i've heard that a million times yeah something like that so definitely the the your most well 01:32:12.110 --> 01:32:17.490 represented quote-unquote in new hampshire than any other state but i i would be surprised if 01:32:17.490 --> 01:32:20.690 there's even another country that doesn't and if you think about like well i'm going to google 01:32:20.690 --> 01:32:27.030 what's the entire population of all of europe or e you at least um i don't recall exact 01:32:27.030 --> 01:32:31.190 numbers off the top of my head but it's it's larger than the united states i think i would say 800 01:32:31.190 --> 01:32:38.870 million to a billion europe 450 million so and i play a european union yeah that sounds about right 01:32:38.870 --> 01:32:43.850 and because you might be like forgetting oh like yeah well are you talking about europe or are 01:32:43.850 --> 01:32:48.130 we talking about the european union because i put e you specifically yeah so the e you isn't 01:32:48.130 --> 01:32:52.650 all of europe technically like russia is part of the e you or i'm sorry part of europe but not 01:32:52.650 --> 01:32:58.290 part of russia is part of the europe but not a part of the e you and there's also a few countries 01:32:59.370 --> 01:33:06.470 besides uh russia holy bella ruse yeah that are not part of the e you as well but the e you has 01:33:07.350 --> 01:33:15.130 disturbingly um taken uh actually it's really scary how many countries the e you has basically 01:33:15.130 --> 01:33:18.930 gotten under its control so to speak yeah well people don't understand is that when you join 01:33:18.930 --> 01:33:24.110 e you there's all these laws that you have to like abide by and like pass in your own country 01:33:24.610 --> 01:33:30.290 and it like a lot of those are really draconian so um like you basically are surrendering your 01:33:30.290 --> 01:33:37.670 freedom when you join the e you um 27 countries yeah to be less yeah so that my main point is 01:33:37.670 --> 01:33:43.230 you know 450 million people being represented by 700 that that's 700 i guess seems a lot less 01:33:43.230 --> 01:33:49.630 surprising when you get to that right yep yep yep yeah so oh man i kind of lost my thing here 01:33:49.630 --> 01:33:54.630 where i'm trying to find the article oh the hill okay there we go um so this man we said he his name 01:33:54.630 --> 01:34:00.930 is rafael gluxman he said we are the free world world now those words from rafael gluxman a french 01:34:00.930 --> 01:34:06.610 socialist member of the european parliament captured the pearl clutching outrage of europeans after 01:34:06.610 --> 01:34:11.090 the trump administration did what no prior administration has ever done stand up to 01:34:11.090 --> 01:34:18.210 europe to defend freedom of speech this week secretary of state margo rubio barred five figures 01:34:19.090 --> 01:34:23.190 closely associated with the european censorship efforts from traveling to the us 01:34:23.810 --> 01:34:30.970 whoa you know i didn't hear about that you know the funny thing is that like europe is like 01:34:31.450 --> 01:34:38.290 europe loves its censorship but at the same time trump is like basically trying to do 01:34:38.970 --> 01:34:46.970 what europe is doing in what way like he's okay so he's blocking people from europe 01:34:47.930 --> 01:34:53.690 entering the united states right and there's other countries like i remember um i think it was 01:34:53.690 --> 01:34:58.530 australia at one point they they blocked somebody who they didn't like some right wing person they 01:34:58.530 --> 01:35:03.630 didn't like from entering the country trump's doing the same thing and it's it's it was politics 01:35:03.630 --> 01:35:08.530 basically but i guess this is only specifically they're they're giving mark or sorry uh trump a 01:35:08.530 --> 01:35:13.990 and i guess margo rubio too a pat on the back for specifically standing up over freedom of 01:35:13.990 --> 01:35:17.790 speech specifically like they barred these people who were coming to 01:35:19.290 --> 01:35:24.310 try to censor americans but i don't know who these people are just said these five well i 01:35:24.310 --> 01:35:29.310 think i so i'm not 100 sure here but i think if i understand everything that's going on in 01:35:29.310 --> 01:35:35.650 the context here um the what's happening is that europe is basically the politicians in europe are 01:35:35.650 --> 01:35:42.270 trying to force companies like google and facebook and meda and you know basically you know social 01:35:42.270 --> 01:35:49.330 networks to censor their websites um their users content that this is submitted by their users 01:35:49.870 --> 01:35:54.690 and trump is saying no we don't we don't like that we don't want you to be censoring americans 01:35:54.690 --> 01:35:59.270 because that's what's happening if you start censoring facebook it's not just a platform for 01:35:59.270 --> 01:36:04.750 europe it's a platform for the world and europe is trying to basically bully american companies into 01:36:05.250 --> 01:36:08.750 not just censoring people in europe but censoring people in united states too effectively yeah it's 01:36:08.750 --> 01:36:13.130 crazy um but we do have a call on the line so i'm going to go to uber george in virginia 01:36:13.130 --> 01:36:19.750 uber george you're on freetalk live what's on your mind hey um i was listening to show from 01:36:19.750 --> 01:36:26.030 last week about you guys were talking about um trump seizing venezuelan oil tankers right there 01:36:26.030 --> 01:36:32.910 calling and uh saying it was a bit of piracy and i just came across something that turns out maybe 01:36:32.910 --> 01:36:39.730 it's not because apparently when yugo chavez came to power in venezuela and he nationalized all the 01:36:39.730 --> 01:36:44.990 oil stuff he took all this property that belonged to american oil companies like exxon and 01:36:44.990 --> 01:36:51.730 six oh no and such and um basically apparently they took the government of venezuela the court 01:36:51.730 --> 01:36:57.910 saying hey you stole our stuff this is this is not yours that you have no right to it and you know 01:36:57.910 --> 01:37:04.330 venezuela lost in court but venezuela um the chavez government was saying that we're not going 01:37:04.330 --> 01:37:09.670 to pay that this is ours now and stuff like that and so you mean they took cuba to court is that 01:37:10.170 --> 01:37:16.750 no that's venezuela so like when venezuela socialized and they went communist they took a 01:37:16.750 --> 01:37:23.550 bunch of oil production equipment from exxon and kicked the u.s companies out and kept all the 01:37:23.550 --> 01:37:29.250 infrastructure that was owned by the u.s oil companies so the u.s oil companies took them to 01:37:29.250 --> 01:37:33.630 court and was like hey you can't just kick us out and keep all our stuff we got to be able to 01:37:33.630 --> 01:37:40.450 take our stuff with us and they've lost so so hold on i don't know if it was all that recent actually 01:37:40.450 --> 01:37:45.310 but no but that's what we need to back up and ask the question power what court were they taken 01:37:45.310 --> 01:37:49.730 was this a u.s court was this a venezuelan court was this a i think of the international international 01:37:49.730 --> 01:37:54.770 court because those are important factors but we do need to back up a moment and say 01:37:55.270 --> 01:38:02.770 that's actually not uncommon um lots of countries um basically uh have partnerships with foreign 01:38:02.770 --> 01:38:09.390 companies and then at some point you know take over basically 100 control uh Saudi Arabia i think is a 01:38:09.390 --> 01:38:16.030 good example of that when they started drilling it was american companies um that and then they had 01:38:16.030 --> 01:38:19.650 like a small percentage of ownership it might have been 10 something like that and then it became 50 01:38:19.650 --> 01:38:24.910 percent and now it's 100 right so yeah but i think those companies though were you know paid back 01:38:24.910 --> 01:38:29.350 or something like that like you know yeah like that's not how that contractually that's not quite 01:38:29.350 --> 01:38:37.210 how that works guys so the country in question which has the oil has control right and they get 01:38:37.210 --> 01:38:41.850 to dictate the terms now you're as a company you can choose not to do business with them 01:38:41.850 --> 01:38:46.410 but if you're already doing business with them you're basically your only choice is to leave 01:38:46.410 --> 01:38:51.150 right now maybe the country will you know compensate you for it but maybe they won't 01:38:51.150 --> 01:38:57.930 it just depends you are agreeing to operate under that country's laws basically so it's it's 01:38:57.930 --> 01:39:05.410 one of these things where you know we may see this as being wrong but again it's not for us to decide 01:39:05.410 --> 01:39:10.830 it's it's for that yeah those people international court because when the company's made that agreement 01:39:10.830 --> 01:39:15.250 venezuela was under a completely different government and it was before Hugo Chavez took power 01:39:15.770 --> 01:39:20.350 essentially yeah so i mean you're what happened with the air you did a Darth Vader 01:39:20.350 --> 01:39:25.370 gone i am altering the deal pray that i don't alter it any further yeah i mean you're right 01:39:25.370 --> 01:39:29.250 on my question though uber george just to make sure we're talking about the same thing are we talking 01:39:29.250 --> 01:39:36.710 about when in 1976 like that era because that says that they nationalized oil assets including 01:39:36.710 --> 01:39:41.850 some belonging to us companies at the time well are we are we talking that far back 01:39:42.770 --> 01:39:49.030 i'm not sure on that one it didn't say i i i was just what i read online was that it was 01:39:49.030 --> 01:39:54.330 saying that um they were taken to international court the court sided with the companies you 01:39:54.330 --> 01:40:00.190 know hey you still owe us at least for this money and then now it's been enforced in that that what 01:40:00.190 --> 01:40:05.990 comp was doing was you know enforcing that ruling well still taking the random oil tankers and the 01:40:05.990 --> 01:40:11.290 same as taking the money you're owed right well that well yes the value of the other tankers 01:40:11.290 --> 01:40:16.910 plus the oil within is saying yeah this is your your going it goes towards what venezuela owes you 01:40:16.910 --> 01:40:20.970 yeah the problem the problem is that they're violating international law in doing so 01:40:20.970 --> 01:40:27.170 i i i get that like there's a disagreement and there's a dispute going on here at an international 01:40:27.170 --> 01:40:34.130 level but that doesn't necessarily change the fact that they have um broken the law you know at an 01:40:34.130 --> 01:40:40.390 international level um yeah here you're on that but i mean if but if it was an international court 01:40:40.390 --> 01:40:46.430 that ruled that venezuela was in the wrong and that they owe them then you know it doesn't 01:40:46.430 --> 01:40:53.010 kind of cancel out a little bit on that though i i'm really not so sure that it does i mean 01:40:53.010 --> 01:40:57.490 this is something there's something called sovereignty right um and you know international 01:40:57.490 --> 01:41:03.610 court doesn't have the right to just arbitrarily decide you know anything um you know in any given 01:41:03.610 --> 01:41:10.050 country the the law of the land is is is what's decided by the people of that country um i'm 01:41:10.050 --> 01:41:14.490 also just like googling for my life and i can't find anything about any of this like it says ai 01:41:14.490 --> 01:41:18.630 overview i think i think i think you might be able to make a better argument that the people of 01:41:18.630 --> 01:41:24.910 venezuela didn't vote for um you know you know this president he was he was uh he basically seized 01:41:24.910 --> 01:41:32.330 power uh or refused to um uh you know leave when his term ran out and somebody else got elected 01:41:32.330 --> 01:41:38.050 so yeah even when i try to go i'm pro war or anything like that although i would not be 01:41:38.050 --> 01:41:44.810 sad of you know maduro and you know had him i don't think anybody would be sad here if you know 01:41:44.810 --> 01:41:50.710 madura passed away yeah but yeah that you know that still doesn't change like you know things at a 01:41:50.710 --> 01:41:57.290 certain level um you know and like i wouldn't i wouldn't take oh let's start a war but maduro 01:41:57.290 --> 01:42:00.950 went maduro dies you know and i think there's something else i want him to die that bad there's 01:42:00.950 --> 01:42:05.410 also something else to think about here too right so what right did the prior government 01:42:05.410 --> 01:42:09.910 have to sell off the oil in the first place right i just happened to have found anything 01:42:09.910 --> 01:42:15.310 with ball googling that any of that is actually related it's saying that the us receives tankers 01:42:15.310 --> 01:42:19.770 in international waters that they claim are part of a dark fleet used by venezuela to evade us 01:42:19.770 --> 01:42:24.270 sanctions so that's why they're saying like i watched them so so that's that's propaganda that's 01:42:24.270 --> 01:42:27.710 a hundred percent propaganda that you're right well whether or not that's true or not i haven't 01:42:27.710 --> 01:42:34.370 seen them say hey well we're taking this because the an international court said we won and 01:42:34.370 --> 01:42:38.450 we're just taking our winnings back that i haven't because that hasn't been that hasn't been in the news 01:42:38.450 --> 01:42:42.770 government's money it's really you know exiles and shells which is he's saying he read an article 01:42:42.770 --> 01:42:49.530 saying that yeah so no he's he's citing he's citing historic uh you know cases court cases right so 01:42:49.530 --> 01:42:53.570 it goes back you know many many decades right he was something that was from 1976 you said 01:42:54.110 --> 01:42:58.690 yeah i think so yeah yeah something like that so um i mean that's not surprising um that you're 01:42:58.690 --> 01:43:03.090 not seeing or hearing anything about that um and but trump did say something about he's just taking 01:43:03.090 --> 01:43:08.210 back something and maybe that's what he's referencing but i don't know i haven't i don't know if i read 01:43:08.210 --> 01:43:13.510 that anywhere but it might be what he's inferring to when he says we're taking something we're taking 01:43:13.510 --> 01:43:18.550 oil back that's ours or something like that um because he did suggest he did suggest that like 01:43:19.250 --> 01:43:26.750 what he was taking like wasn't theft or wasn't a piracy because somehow like yeah it was like it 01:43:26.750 --> 01:43:31.190 was ours or something which which didn't make any sense at the time but put it in the 01:43:31.190 --> 01:43:37.190 within those contexts oh it makes a little bit more sense see they're not i'm getting something now i 01:43:37.190 --> 01:43:41.770 googled like why is trump saying the venezuelan oil actually belongs to him which right right right 01:43:41.770 --> 01:43:47.510 that's just like a quick and it says um trump has repeatedly claimed that venezuela stole 01:43:47.510 --> 01:43:52.630 oil land and assets and that he starts to belong to the u.s and he wants them back his 01:43:52.630 --> 01:43:57.630 rationale nationalization of assets trump refers to the actions taken by the venezuelan 01:43:57.630 --> 01:44:02.970 government and a former president of shaves who nationalizes countries oils in 1970s and again 01:44:02.970 --> 01:44:09.230 in 2007 during this process american oil companies like exxon mobile and conico phillips had their 01:44:09.230 --> 01:44:15.050 assets and oil fields seized or expropriated yep yeah i mean so so this is the problem with this is 01:44:15.050 --> 01:44:19.950 that when you enter a country and you do business in a foreign country you take on the liabilities 01:44:19.950 --> 01:44:25.630 and the risk of doing business in that country these this um once they nationalized it these 01:44:25.630 --> 01:44:28.810 companies had no right to those oil the only reason they had the oil in the first place was 01:44:28.810 --> 01:44:36.210 because a prior government um basically sold off those assets but again you're you're subject to the 01:44:36.210 --> 01:44:41.110 whim of the people so to speak or the women the ruler and in this particular case the ruler 01:44:41.110 --> 01:44:47.470 changed and the ruler decided to nationalize um but it does say that um the u.s companies 01:44:47.470 --> 01:44:51.310 pursued legal action through international arbitration and one billions of dollars 01:44:51.750 --> 01:44:56.910 in compensation venezuela struggling under economic pressure and sanctions has largely 01:44:56.910 --> 01:45:03.550 refused to pay these amounts because it's a sovereign country nobody gets to dictate to regardless of 01:45:03.550 --> 01:45:09.590 what international courts say they don't have that much power and uh the sovereign country gets to 01:45:09.590 --> 01:45:14.190 decide these things and they and venezuelan uh the leader and venezuelan decided them 01:45:14.190 --> 01:45:19.290 yeah says trump has a long history of stating that the u.s should take the oil from other 01:45:19.290 --> 01:45:24.930 countries after military engagements such as iraq and syria viewing it as compensation for u.s 01:45:24.930 --> 01:45:30.410 efforts or a way to prevent wealth from funding hostile groups this isn't he doesn't care about 01:45:30.410 --> 01:45:34.770 yeah so the problem is that you're declaring war you're you're you're literally committing 01:45:34.770 --> 01:45:42.150 to an act of war because of private interests in the united states uh that felt that you know 01:45:42.150 --> 01:45:49.270 they were they were harmed or wronged in some way on the other hand uh at least it's not like iraq 2003 01:45:49.270 --> 01:45:54.830 you know we're not going in with you know yeah yeah that's the key word yeah yeah i mean as long as it 01:45:54.830 --> 01:46:00.530 doesn't happen trump trump is trying to do everything to be able to justify to create the circumstances 01:46:00.530 --> 01:46:04.670 in which he can justify an invasion and that's just so crazy right because all of us 01:46:04.670 --> 01:46:10.950 had always been told trump is like the the choice of peace and he wouldn't you know uh 01:46:10.950 --> 01:46:17.070 wars never started any new wars of what they're always saying no but he caused them or he's about 01:46:17.070 --> 01:46:23.210 to cause a war whether or not he started them i think some neo i feel like a neocon would say 01:46:23.210 --> 01:46:30.090 that's like the job of the government though is to protect us people doing business i mean 01:46:30.090 --> 01:46:35.250 yeah you see the problem is that the us only gets to protect us interests within the united 01:46:35.250 --> 01:46:40.550 states right like we don't we should not be protecting interests of companies doing business 01:46:40.550 --> 01:46:45.930 well the first time we sent the marines anywhere we sent them to like off the coast of Somalia to 01:46:45.930 --> 01:46:50.450 protect traitors the united states like that's right so the united states for hundreds of years 01:46:50.450 --> 01:46:55.450 has been invading other countries for american corporate i think we have two needs but the 01:46:55.450 --> 01:46:59.410 barbaric pirate pirates i'm gonna make the term leatherneck right i'm gonna make the argument 01:46:59.410 --> 01:47:03.390 that we shouldn't have been doing that and we should stop doing that yeah that's that's that's 01:47:03.390 --> 01:47:07.610 fine but i'm just saying that's like i can see where people are saying this is just status 01:47:07.610 --> 01:47:12.810 like this is this is what the u.s. government does it's what they've been doing forever why 01:47:12.810 --> 01:47:17.070 should my tax dollars be no i'm not i'm not disagreeing with you i'm just saying this is 01:47:17.070 --> 01:47:22.430 go to fund a war in order to secure a way to look some other company's profits or somebody 01:47:22.430 --> 01:47:27.130 else's profits that makes no sense profits like they're they're saying that they own the the 01:47:27.130 --> 01:47:33.830 oil in another country that anybody should know that any sovereign state owns the oil under 01:47:33.830 --> 01:47:38.530 their ground but trump is ultimately at the end of the day yeah until that oil is outside their 01:47:38.530 --> 01:47:43.070 country because they used to work there doesn't mean like he owns they he owns it i don't i don't 01:47:43.070 --> 01:47:47.410 think it's the oil i think it's the infrastructure that's built by exxon mobile he claimed they 01:47:47.410 --> 01:47:53.610 stole venezuela stole from them oil land and assets what literally oil land and assets which 01:47:53.610 --> 01:47:59.930 is in the ground anyone's quote back yeah i mean this is this is the look guys i no 01:47:59.930 --> 01:48:05.050 matter what the government tells you they have the ability to change the terms of the deal 01:48:05.050 --> 01:48:09.870 and venezuela did yeah it's no different when the when the united states does it when the 01:48:09.870 --> 01:48:15.170 when the u.s. raises taxes do you get it do you get it just decide oh i just don't want to 01:48:15.170 --> 01:48:19.110 pay my no they're gonna come after you if you if you don't pay your taxes um the government 01:48:19.110 --> 01:48:23.030 gets to unfortunately for better or worse the government gets these governments get to dictate 01:48:23.030 --> 01:48:27.090 the terms whether you like it or not and these corporate interests went into venezuela 01:48:27.090 --> 01:48:31.170 and they made a deal and the government decided to change those terms they're probably benefiting 01:48:31.170 --> 01:48:35.870 off the corruption in venezuela and then it came to bite them in the butt well yeah they 01:48:35.870 --> 01:48:39.050 they benefit from the corruption and then when a different you know uh you know 01:48:39.050 --> 01:48:42.870 dictator be gone to power they basically changed the deal they changed the terms 01:48:42.870 --> 01:48:48.470 yeah because that dictator wasn't benefiting from it i mean it this people take advantage 01:48:48.470 --> 01:48:53.850 they take advantage of the the population look at what happened in russia when went when it 01:48:53.850 --> 01:48:59.570 democratic right i mean look at who owns the russia the the oil in russia it's literally like 01:48:59.570 --> 01:49:04.490 one of seven i don't even think it's one of seven it's like one or it's like all the oil 01:49:04.490 --> 01:49:08.210 in russia is owned by like one guy basically it's something like insane like that there's 01:49:08.210 --> 01:49:13.610 seven oligarchs but they i think they have different businesses in different areas like one 01:49:13.610 --> 01:49:20.190 owns steel one owns oil like it's it's it's it's crazy right it's crazy i hold to that guy 01:49:20.190 --> 01:49:24.790 it's crazy but but you but you kind of that kind of makes you question whether or not 01:49:24.790 --> 01:49:30.810 those assets are legitimately owned by these individuals yeah he couldn't possibly go and 01:49:30.810 --> 01:49:36.590 defend each each oil well it's not even that but it's it's it's the fact that the the means 01:49:36.590 --> 01:49:42.070 at which the assets were acquired in the first place were not legitimate in any sense of the 01:49:42.070 --> 01:49:47.750 word so how would it be like if let's say socialists and you know socialists got back 01:49:47.750 --> 01:49:53.150 into power in russia why would it be wrong for them to take back the oil for example or take back 01:49:53.150 --> 01:49:58.010 the steel you know that was sold off for you know you know pennies on the dot well pennies on the 01:49:58.010 --> 01:50:03.550 ruble or whatever the equivalent expression would be right um i'm not arguing for socialism i'm 01:50:03.550 --> 01:50:07.390 not doing that at all here guys that's not what i'm saying i'm just saying that you got to 01:50:07.390 --> 01:50:13.450 keep things in context yeah well that just well that's kind of what uh that's how people i think 01:50:13.450 --> 01:50:19.650 look now because we're in this like his stage of uh like well this is this was our land but before 01:50:19.650 --> 01:50:23.910 that it was somebody else's land like how far back are we going until we consider this to be somebody 01:50:23.910 --> 01:50:27.530 yeah sure right because you could go all the way back and say that it's not even the benesway 01:50:27.530 --> 01:50:31.950 and governments it should go back to like the tribes of the amazon because they were technically 01:50:31.950 --> 01:50:38.630 there first uh yeah there's been right so many you know it's annoying when thank you for the 01:50:38.630 --> 01:50:44.370 call uber george but the idea that like we're arguing for the government to own the land is 01:50:44.370 --> 01:50:49.310 difficult because we're just claiming well this other government has a lesser claim at the very 01:50:49.310 --> 01:50:52.770 least at least that's where i'm coming from you i mean i don't think the government should 01:50:52.770 --> 01:50:57.750 own the land at all but at the same time you know the way in which this land ends up into people's 01:50:57.750 --> 01:51:05.290 private hands you know in 603 2836160 more free talk live is coming up free talk live 01:51:05.290 --> 01:51:10.630 dear fgl we've got chemtrail down here in west virginia be nice you've never seen them 01:51:11.390 --> 01:51:17.370 con trail disappear relatively quickly compared to the chemtrail if anybody is listening and 01:51:17.370 --> 01:51:21.570 that wants to fight the chemtrails there's things called what are you gonna fight them 01:51:21.570 --> 01:51:27.690 wait a minute called quad busters a wad busters i gotta give ufo hopes there's more credit 01:51:27.690 --> 01:51:32.510 at least they go out and build a little saucer and they tie into a cardboard saucer and yeah 01:51:32.510 --> 01:51:38.030 i'd love to see a semi-legitimate website reporting anything on this particular issue 01:51:38.030 --> 01:51:42.910 i don't i don't think i don't think you're gonna get that semi i just asked semi-legitimate you 01:51:42.910 --> 01:51:47.290 want a doctor to say there's much a lot of doctors just because you're a doctor doesn't mean you're 01:51:47.290 --> 01:51:52.830 an expert or smart or it doesn't even mean you're a doctor okay okay go on my website later 01:51:52.830 --> 01:51:59.390 on tonight and i'll be doctor men which okay free talk live seven nights a week from seven to ten 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insurgents in the country 01:53:31.490 --> 01:53:38.730 who he claims are persecuting christians fsn's jagruti davai has more from washington donald trump 01:53:38.730 --> 01:53:44.090 has been threatening military intervention in nigeria for some time and this was the justification 01:53:44.090 --> 01:53:49.830 he gave for these strikes which he described as deadly in a social media post he said isis 01:53:49.830 --> 01:53:55.690 terrorists scum have been targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians he added 01:53:55.690 --> 01:54:00.230 merry christmas to all including the dead terrorists of which there will be many more 01:54:00.230 --> 01:54:06.550 if their slaughter of christians continues us africa command said their initial assessment 01:54:06.550 --> 01:54:12.450 is that multiple isis terrorists were killed in isis camps the strikes were coordinated 01:54:12.450 --> 01:54:18.010 with the nigerian government whose foreign minister said they shared intelligence with the us india 01:54:18.010 --> 01:54:23.070 in bangladesh summoned each other's envoys over protests outside their diplomatic missions 01:54:23.070 --> 01:54:29.230 as already tense ties spiral the latest round of formal protests come after right-wing groups 01:54:29.230 --> 01:54:35.630 staged protests in several indian cities over the killing of a hindu garment worker in bangladesh 01:54:35.630 --> 01:54:42.590 over allegations of blasphemy fsn's kshitij nagar has more from new delhi the summoning of the indian 01:54:42.590 --> 01:54:48.370 high commissioner by bangladesh is the second such instance in as many days bangladesh officials 01:54:48.370 --> 01:54:54.130 raised objections over protests and what they describe as a failure to curb demonstrations 01:54:54.610 --> 01:55:00.830 and targeting its diplomatic missions the high commission in delhi remains under heavy police 01:55:00.830 --> 01:55:07.090 deployment with security tightened and police forces deployed the killing of a hindu man in 01:55:07.090 --> 01:55:13.010 northern bangladesh earlier in the month triggered public anger in india and sharpened concerns over 01:55:13.010 --> 01:55:19.150 minority safety indian authorities say they are closely tracking developments the escalation comes 01:55:19.150 --> 01:55:24.630 amid a broader political uncertainty in bangladesh following the ouster of former prime minister 01:55:24.630 --> 01:55:31.350 earlier this year us president trump announced a new type of battleship set to be used by the us 01:55:31.350 --> 01:55:39.050 navy and it is one named after himself fsn's mitch mccann reports standing beside the defense 01:55:39.050 --> 01:55:43.610 secretary and the secretary of state donald trump announced that the us will build two new 01:55:43.610 --> 01:55:48.670 trump class battleships mr trump told reporters on monday he is calling them the golden fleet 01:55:48.670 --> 01:55:53.890 and said eventually there'll be 25 of them mr trump said the new ships will have 100 times 01:55:53.890 --> 01:55:59.190 the force and power of any other battleship ever built and in there will be nothing else like them 01:55:59.190 --> 01:56:04.350 the president said that the us has not built a battleship since 1994 and said each one will 01:56:04.350 --> 01:56:09.150 be the largest in the history of the world he said they will command respect but added that the 01:56:09.150 --> 01:56:15.490 world already respects america mitch mccann new york from bureaus worldwide this is fsn 01:56:16.250 --> 01:56:21.890 the us confirmed it carried out a strike on an alleged drug smuggling boat killing one person 01:56:21.890 --> 01:56:28.090 along with the seizure of another venezuela oil tanker over the weekend it continues the pressure 01:56:28.090 --> 01:56:35.330 campaign against venezuela's president nicolas maduro fsn's nick harper reports from washington 01:56:35.790 --> 01:56:41.250 the us military confirming that it had killed what it called one narco terrorist it released 01:56:41.250 --> 01:56:47.670 footage of that strike with the us southern command confirming on x that it had carried out 01:56:47.670 --> 01:56:53.230 the attack upon the direction of defense secretary pete hegseth it said the boat had been transiting 01:56:53.230 --> 01:56:59.730 along known narco trafficking routes but all of this as venezuela has called for an urgent meeting 01:56:59.730 --> 01:57:05.530 at the un security council to push back on what it's called the aggression of the united states 01:57:05.530 --> 01:57:11.830 china and russia both coming out with strong support for caracas with china saying that the 01:57:11.830 --> 01:57:18.450 us was in serious violation of international law with its continued actions against venezuela 01:57:18.450 --> 01:57:25.410 its oil tankers and alleged drug smuggling boats i'm nick harper in washington a car bomb killed a top 01:57:25.410 --> 01:57:32.370 military official in moscow fsn's daria bonderchuk reports from the russian capital a car bomb 01:57:32.370 --> 01:57:38.650 exploded in southern moscow on monday killing general fanil sarvarov he headed the operational 01:57:38.650 --> 01:57:44.270 training directorate of the russian army's general staff the top military official was blown 01:57:44.270 --> 01:57:50.050 up in the parking lot of his apartment building reportedly minutes after he sat in his car and 01:57:50.050 --> 01:57:55.890 traveled just a few meters he became the third person of his rank to be killed in car bombing 01:57:55.890 --> 01:58:01.090 incidents over the past 12 months russia's investigative committee says lieutenant general 01:58:01.090 --> 01:58:05.970 sarvarov was killed in explosion possibly orchestrated by ukrainian intelligence 01:58:05.970 --> 01:58:12.790 and services daria bonderchuk moscow that was a look at some of the week's top stories iris spitzer 01:58:12.790 --> 01:58:23.050 reporting for the past several years now area woman katelyn mooney has been convinced that each 01:58:23.050 --> 01:58:28.250 and every one of her friends should be a professional comedian our reporters spoke to katelyn this 01:58:28.250 --> 01:58:35.290 morning about her quote hilarious group of friends karen is so funny like i can't even explain it 01:58:35.290 --> 01:58:40.290 she's always just saying whatever on her mind she has this totally sassy attitude you just can't 01:58:40.290 --> 01:58:46.670 help but laugh my roommate raised me she always has these hilarious stories that i mean they're just 01:58:46.670 --> 01:58:52.290 too much i'm always telling her that she should just go up on stage and talk i mean everyone would 01:58:52.290 --> 01:58:57.650 love it mooney went on to say that her good friend lauren is so funny she could quote definitely 01:58:57.650 --> 01:59:02.530 be on saturday night live or the office a sentiment she echoed about a number of her 01:59:02.530 --> 01:59:07.470 other acquaintances including her childhood friend marsha her college roommate angela her 01:59:07.470 --> 01:59:15.150 co-worker julie and even her sister jennifer yes is the onion news network you can help spread the 01:59:15.150 --> 01:59:20.570 ideas of liberty with our patreon for just five dollars per month at amps dot free talk live 01:59:20.570 --> 02:00:02.710 dot com free talk live talk radio that you control and 6032836160 is the phone number you 02:00:02.710 --> 02:00:08.550 can get in on the conversation with us like uber george did and bring up whatever's on your mind 02:00:08.550 --> 02:00:12.870 and i at least i love that i brought up a whole new topic than what we're talking about and 02:00:13.690 --> 02:00:19.190 taught me something i didn't know before in fact i i remember one of the things they were talking 02:00:19.190 --> 02:00:23.490 about when they seized that oil tanker was that they were saying well really it's just ours 02:00:23.490 --> 02:00:28.110 anyway but i i didn't know what their reasoning was i still think it's flawed reasoning i'm 02:00:28.110 --> 02:00:34.890 but you would have had to hear you would have had to hear uber sorry i usually mute you guys while i 02:00:34.890 --> 02:00:39.230 open the show because i have this tree didn't i just need everybody to like let me get that out 02:00:39.230 --> 02:00:44.290 but i forgot and i censored you guys yeah no worries definitely lives all i was saying yeah 02:00:44.290 --> 02:00:48.270 no i agree with you i was just i was just playing devil's advocate i was just saying that 02:00:48.270 --> 02:00:53.170 from their worldview which is a flawed worldview right i'm not disagreeing with you but that's 02:00:53.170 --> 02:00:56.910 just how they're gonna justify it to the masses you're saying it was nothing new yeah like 02:00:56.910 --> 02:01:04.770 this isn't new this is we this is just a playbook so another in things that are somewhat new the the 02:01:04.770 --> 02:01:09.450 european union has been we've actually covered multiple different articles about this the european 02:01:09.450 --> 02:01:17.130 union has been doing many things to try and make their censorship laws apply to americans 02:01:17.710 --> 02:01:21.450 and people in other countries well i guess american companies is the big part because they 02:01:21.450 --> 02:01:28.910 want to like find they don't want to find uh like the user they want to find twitter for letting 02:01:28.910 --> 02:01:32.310 the german man see the tweet that they're not allowed to think they want to do both 02:01:33.970 --> 02:01:39.350 actually gone and find people or arrested people i'm really not sure but that's not over the EU 02:01:39.350 --> 02:01:44.050 law that's over british law yes okay okay this is true but there's not there's not that much 02:01:44.050 --> 02:01:49.270 difference between british law and like EU law like they were literally one in the same 02:01:49.990 --> 02:01:55.190 like like i'm not going to have a and they're both doing the similar similar things as an EU police 02:01:55.190 --> 02:01:59.810 officer going to show up to the tech the man in texas's house and try to give him a fine for 02:01:59.810 --> 02:02:05.010 tweeting something no that's why they want to go through the x that allows the german man no i 02:02:05.010 --> 02:02:09.050 i'm just saying i'm not sure that they're only doing that they might be wanting to do the problem 02:02:09.050 --> 02:02:16.330 is they're unable to do that right so they're much more easily able to um coerce american 02:02:16.330 --> 02:02:21.330 companies because the american companies also operate in europe the the man in texas 02:02:21.930 --> 02:02:27.590 may never even leave the united states so trying to you know find him when the fight when they 02:02:27.590 --> 02:02:31.190 have no means of enforcement of those fines because the u.s courts aren't going to enforce 02:02:31.190 --> 02:02:37.870 EU fines unless there's an equivalent u.s law that's going to be impossible to achieve right 02:02:37.870 --> 02:02:40.950 yeah that's what i'm just saying they're going they're not going after americans 02:02:40.950 --> 02:02:44.410 they're going after american companies well they're going after americans through american 02:02:44.410 --> 02:02:51.630 yeah yeah it says that um we already covered in the last segment that marco rubio borrowed these 02:02:51.630 --> 02:02:58.130 five officials um who wanted to travel to the united states and he borrowed them from the 02:02:58.130 --> 02:03:01.970 and they're closely associated with european censorship but he doesn't say who they this 02:03:01.970 --> 02:03:08.610 doesn't say who this they are it says this includes theory brett brettan a former european 02:03:08.610 --> 02:03:13.710 union commissioner responsible for digital policy but it doesn't say who the other four 02:03:13.710 --> 02:03:20.050 people were in a post on x marco rubio declared that the u.s will no longer tolerate these egregious 02:03:20.050 --> 02:03:26.250 acts of extra territorial censorship and will target leading figures of the global censorship 02:03:26.250 --> 02:03:33.430 industrial complex from entering the united states i have a feeling and i don't know if i read this 02:03:33.430 --> 02:03:38.190 or not but he may be one of the or one of those people may be uh one of the people behind 02:03:38.190 --> 02:03:43.470 like the gdpr um like one of the leading figures behind that which is to say some more about him 02:03:43.470 --> 02:03:49.970 i don't know what gdpr is gdpr is what the general data regulation protection act something like that 02:03:49.970 --> 02:03:55.210 um it basically is a is a really really bad law that is it like the one from like two years ago 02:03:55.630 --> 02:03:59.890 it's even older it's even older than that i think um it's not that old but it's it's maybe four 02:03:59.890 --> 02:04:05.490 or five i think at this point um but anyway yeah no it's it's one of these laws that like they 02:04:05.490 --> 02:04:12.190 basically like us websites are like especially like news websites even like the hollywood reporter 02:04:12.190 --> 02:04:18.030 for example they they're blocking all of europe because it basically requires you to jump through 02:04:18.030 --> 02:04:25.730 all of these hoops uh in order to like serve your information to like e u customers and stuff 02:04:25.730 --> 02:04:30.070 oh yes this is what i'm thinking of i just didn't know its name yeah like um like for example um 02:04:30.070 --> 02:04:35.950 if you put up a product page in french uh the the european government might consider you 02:04:36.470 --> 02:04:41.030 advertising to people in france and therefore they consider you to be in your jurisdiction in 02:04:41.030 --> 02:04:44.650 their jurisdiction sorry even though you're a u.s company that doesn't operate outside the 02:04:44.650 --> 02:04:46.630 united states you might ship outside the united states where you're canadian 02:04:49.270 --> 02:04:53.570 see that seems crazy yeah like either way it's just yeah so they're trying to enforce their 02:04:53.570 --> 02:04:58.090 jurisdiction on companies outside of europe basically so it would apply to a canadian 02:04:58.090 --> 02:05:03.570 company shipping into europe as well so this guy breton his name is theri it's like terry but 02:05:03.570 --> 02:05:08.430 it's with a th terry breton achieved infamy as one of the architects of the massive e u 02:05:08.430 --> 02:05:14.570 sensor sorry censorship system which is now being globalized armed with the notorious 02:05:14.570 --> 02:05:20.290 digital service act breton and others threatened american companies and officials that they 02:05:20.290 --> 02:05:25.350 would have to yield to european standards of free speech after breton learned that musk was 02:05:25.350 --> 02:05:29.970 planning to interview trump before the last presidential election he even warned the x 02:05:29.970 --> 02:05:38.890 owner that he would be monitored and potentially subject to e u fines the e u is not a fan of 02:05:38.890 --> 02:05:43.450 free speech they have been trying to crack down as much as they possibly can even like 02:05:43.450 --> 02:05:49.170 rating german houses um over internet they're they're doing they've done all sorts of terrible 02:05:49.170 --> 02:05:55.850 things in europe when it comes to you know speech from outlawing or indirectly outlawing things 02:05:55.850 --> 02:06:00.810 like tour that provide privacy and ability for people to anonymously communicate things that may 02:06:00.810 --> 02:06:08.130 you know it may not be popular for example um to um just like yeah things like the gdpr 02:06:08.130 --> 02:06:13.510 which is sort of like indirect censorship basically um by forcing absurd you know regulations on 02:06:13.510 --> 02:06:17.730 companies yeah and by the way i said ship into europe before i shouldn't have said that 02:06:17.730 --> 02:06:20.850 because that makes because at that point you may actually have to comply with some sort of 02:06:20.850 --> 02:06:24.870 regulation but when you're a company like the hollywood reporter which is literally just a news 02:06:24.870 --> 02:06:30.550 website and writing articles for it you shouldn't have to comply with european law just because 02:06:30.550 --> 02:06:35.350 you maybe published some articles in french there's there's like there's people outside of 02:06:35.350 --> 02:06:40.410 france right that might be reading your content like maybe the canadians um there's a large 02:06:40.410 --> 02:06:45.570 french canadian population right um but the european government with the gdpr basically 02:06:45.570 --> 02:06:53.670 tries to try to tries to basically coerce you into complying with their laws um through fines 02:06:53.670 --> 02:06:59.170 and things that probably aren't enforceable against you as a u.s company but nonetheless um 02:06:59.170 --> 02:07:04.370 you know based off of things like you know what language you you know or what currency you 02:07:04.370 --> 02:07:09.410 you advertise in or you know all that kind of thing yeah so it says that the guy at the 02:07:09.410 --> 02:07:17.990 very beginning that we said he said the quote we are the free world now whatever the heck that means 02:07:17.990 --> 02:07:22.490 it just it's absurd it's it's just such an absurd statement it um goes on to talk about more 02:07:22.490 --> 02:07:28.030 things that says he said socialist gluck gluck's man that's his name the a french socialist one 02:07:28.030 --> 02:07:34.650 of the most more deadly socialists in the world by country um not him himself but you know 02:07:34.650 --> 02:07:41.010 french socialists pretty deadly he is now irate at this scandalous sanction against terry britain 02:07:41.010 --> 02:07:47.930 we are europeans he declared we must defend our laws our principles our interests in other words 02:07:47.930 --> 02:07:52.290 this is a war over whether europe or the u.s constitution will dictate the scope of free 02:07:52.290 --> 02:07:58.070 speech for american companies and citizens britain and his colleagues are finally being 02:07:58.070 --> 02:08:02.710 treated as what they are a clear and present danger to the indispensable right that 02:08:02.710 --> 02:08:10.830 defines all americans the e u has been enlisted by anti free speech figures in the u.s to force 02:08:10.830 --> 02:08:18.770 companies like x and facebook to oh wow so u.s like figures that hate free speech have been 02:08:18.770 --> 02:08:23.430 going to e u to get them to enforce this to force companies like x and facebook to restore 02:08:23.430 --> 02:08:28.670 censorship of americans france literally kidnapped uh tell the founder of telegram 02:08:28.670 --> 02:08:35.090 oh yeah yeah how long ago was that uh like this year yeah um and months right holding them hostage 02:08:35.090 --> 02:08:39.070 do they still have him yeah yeah they still have him wow i mean he's been allowed to leave the 02:08:39.070 --> 02:08:45.730 country um but yes um for short stints but yeah he's required to return every so often so what if 02:08:45.730 --> 02:08:50.810 we just go somewhere that doesn't extra night and they help well yeah that's that's a possibility 02:08:50.810 --> 02:08:56.670 um but yeah i mean basically that the problem the problem is that a lot of these people 02:08:56.670 --> 02:09:01.130 they want to be able to travel right yeah and if you travel to any country that has a treaty with 02:09:01.130 --> 02:09:08.670 france uh that country may extra got you to france i like how well isn't the french the ones who got 02:09:08.670 --> 02:09:13.370 john mackafee yes i think so no that was pain wasn't it he at least killed himself in spain 02:09:13.370 --> 02:09:17.050 maybe that's where they first got him but i do want to go to this caller unscreened caller 02:09:17.050 --> 02:09:24.670 you're on free talk live what's on your mind oh this is a max max from manchester hello what's 02:09:24.670 --> 02:09:29.930 on your mind max from manchester uh so at least in new hampshire where we are organizing the 02:09:29.930 --> 02:09:36.290 republican liberty caucus um they're they're way ahead of us in some other states um but for people 02:09:36.290 --> 02:09:41.890 live in uh new hampshire anywhere near new hampshire in new england you can uh come visit us we're 02:09:41.890 --> 02:09:50.090 doing a weekly meetup at strange brew in uh manchester every sunday at 420 awesome so every 02:09:50.090 --> 02:09:57.770 sunday at 420 unfortunately that does um conflict with social sunday but wait where is it against 02:09:57.770 --> 02:10:03.070 strange brewing in actually people could get back but there's always the idea that like oh well if 02:10:03.070 --> 02:10:07.950 we're in a at a protest on a sunday in manchester we won't make it back for social sunday but we 02:10:07.950 --> 02:10:15.070 could always tend um your what are you calling it again uh what's that what are you calling the 02:10:15.070 --> 02:10:21.110 event again um it's just the republican liberty caucus meetup it it's um it's right before the 02:10:21.110 --> 02:10:27.270 bitcoin meetup at five o'clock so let's be some overlap there but lots of states are reorganizing 02:10:27.270 --> 02:10:33.050 i did want to mention also um if it's all right to jump to a different topic yes that's fine 02:10:34.010 --> 02:10:38.510 so um you know how i guess it's peter teal has like five billion dollars or something in his 02:10:38.510 --> 02:10:44.490 roth ira i've never heard that putting well fidelity and a few others are letting um 02:10:45.110 --> 02:10:49.290 you can put your more aggressive um investments if it's like money in your bank money that you 02:10:49.290 --> 02:10:54.730 have lying around your post tax dollars you can put into your roth ira and people are buying 02:10:54.730 --> 02:10:59.830 um crypto i have uh bitcoin ethereum salana and other stuff in my roth ira and fidelity 02:11:00.690 --> 02:11:05.750 and even if it grows like 10 times or 50 times or something like that um 02:11:06.350 --> 02:11:11.590 drill about a roth ira is that you don't um have to pay capital gains tax and it doesn't 02:11:11.590 --> 02:11:16.050 have requirement on distributions and it's a lot more flexible than other types of ira like a 401k 02:11:16.670 --> 02:11:20.790 so i believe you still have to pay tax on that when you take the money out you just have to pay 02:11:20.790 --> 02:11:29.230 the capital gains right so that's a 401k but a health savings account and a roth ira um actually 02:11:29.230 --> 02:11:34.450 the health savings account is probably a better like all-around deal but it's it's hard to get 02:11:34.450 --> 02:11:42.590 crypto into an hsa but you can have like you could just get like $7,000 worth of ethereum every year 02:11:42.590 --> 02:11:48.490 you could um dollar cost average like uh 150 a week from your paycheck directly into your roth ira 02:11:48.490 --> 02:11:52.570 and just keep buying ethereum or salana or litecoin or whatever you want to buy 02:11:53.090 --> 02:11:56.930 and like i say if it goes up 10 times or 50 times by the time you retire 02:11:57.530 --> 02:12:03.710 you can just pull it out and it's 100 tax free because um congress figures that you've already 02:12:03.710 --> 02:12:11.210 paid taxes on it initially and because the limitation on it is only 7 000 year going in i think it's 02:12:11.210 --> 02:12:18.390 going up to 7500 a year next year um and if you're turning 50 the year that you turn 50 i think it 02:12:18.390 --> 02:12:23.850 goes up by another thousand dollars so you can put like another like 8500 a year or something 02:12:23.850 --> 02:12:29.730 like that into it um it is kind of a loophole it is kind of a hack but lots of people who 02:12:29.730 --> 02:12:35.490 just have like maybe 5 10 15 percent of their portfolio is in crypto they're using their 02:12:35.490 --> 02:12:39.730 roth ira to do the whole thing just in case you know they pick one that goes up 50 times 02:12:40.180 --> 02:12:44.030 and they don't want to pay taxes on it when they retire so they'll just like pull it out when 02:12:44.030 --> 02:12:50.830 they're 55 60 years old and uh be able to retire early well that's nice so is this something new 02:12:50.830 --> 02:12:54.710 or something is that way you're telling us that like is that like some new or you're just saying 02:12:54.710 --> 02:12:59.990 like oh well this is a kind of way to get away the cap away from doing the capital gains taxes 02:12:59.990 --> 02:13:06.670 on the case for a while hasn't it um it has been but um fidelity has added more options 02:13:06.670 --> 02:13:11.750 i think that vanguard lets you do it now i mean so so one of the things that you you're doing 02:13:11.750 --> 02:13:15.430 here though is you're surrendering control you're not in control of those that crypto 02:13:15.430 --> 02:13:19.370 that's a good point like the controlling the crypto yeah i mean i i get why people are 02:13:19.370 --> 02:13:23.530 doing it for tax reasons um but at the same time it is something i also think people 02:13:23.530 --> 02:13:27.670 need to be wary of because as soon as you uh you know do something like this the government has 02:13:27.670 --> 02:13:32.070 something they can seize from you um whereas if you have crypto in a wallet they can try and 02:13:32.070 --> 02:13:35.650 seize it right it's all custody wallet that is they can see they can try and seize it 02:13:35.650 --> 02:13:39.530 but it's a heck of a lot harder for them to actually do so i still think it's pretty good 02:13:39.530 --> 02:13:45.510 information for someone who is looking to you know cash out their crypto without having to 02:13:45.510 --> 02:13:49.790 pay capital gains but i i don't know didn't didn't the genius act to make it less it's 02:13:49.790 --> 02:13:55.050 only it's certainly it's certainly i think uh individually it's it depends on what your 02:13:55.050 --> 02:14:01.050 circumstances are right like yeah ultimately but i mean it's a lot of us have like you'll have like 02:14:01.050 --> 02:14:05.830 some people have like some in their wallet they'll have like a laptop an old laptop that 02:14:05.830 --> 02:14:10.550 still has some crypto here and there um and people looking kind of looking for ways to kind 02:14:10.550 --> 02:14:15.830 of max out and um you can actually do a Roth conversion so if you have a bunch of money 02:14:15.830 --> 02:14:20.570 in your 401k you can chunk over like seven thousand dollars a year three thousand dollars 02:14:20.570 --> 02:14:28.290 a year into your Roth IRA and uh you know take a bunch of like slow moving underperforming stocks 02:14:28.290 --> 02:14:32.590 tons of people have money in their 401k um you can go to your financial advisor attack 02:14:32.590 --> 02:14:38.510 prepare and move that money on your four into your Roth IRA and now you can buy um you can 02:14:38.510 --> 02:14:42.710 buy crypto with money that's just kind of sitting there again three four five six percent 02:14:42.710 --> 02:14:46.930 i think i think i think you make some uh interesting um i think these are some very 02:14:46.930 --> 02:14:51.210 interesting investment vehicles but at the same time you're also talking to a bunch of 02:14:51.210 --> 02:14:55.710 libertarians who that don't trust the government at all so i do gotta ask you about to bring that 02:14:55.710 --> 02:15:00.590 back are you part of the libertarian arm of this republican libertarian meetup 02:15:01.870 --> 02:15:05.890 so the republican liberty caucus is kind of like a more of a big tent it includes like 02:15:06.790 --> 02:15:11.950 constitutionalist libertarians um some kind of like you know absolutely minimal government 02:15:13.350 --> 02:15:19.310 reformers school choice folks one issue folks but mainly the a lot of it's like the third 02:15:19.310 --> 02:15:23.110 parting movement they've tried and tried and tried to get on the ballot in hampshire i had ballot 02:15:23.110 --> 02:15:27.970 access legislation in when i was in the legislature and both parties were just like a hundred 02:15:27.970 --> 02:15:32.890 percent against it and they just they hated the idea of third parties and they felt like it just 02:15:32.890 --> 02:15:36.470 kind of screwed everything up but you still have independence and third party's getting on a ballot 02:15:36.470 --> 02:15:43.150 so with the rlc we can kind of take on like uh big government prohibitionist rino neil khan 02:15:43.150 --> 02:15:48.530 whatever and in the state primary which is what i did win the primary and then go take on the 02:15:48.530 --> 02:15:53.530 democrat kind of just do it like one you know one you know opponent at a time it gives you 02:15:53.530 --> 02:16:00.150 like it's it's an uphill battle still but you can take one you you take on one in the 02:16:00.150 --> 02:16:04.010 republican primary in september eighth and then you take on the other one november third 02:16:05.030 --> 02:16:08.930 yep that i mean that all makes sense to me and and it's just like kind of the more big tent 02:16:08.930 --> 02:16:13.890 like the all my actual question was are you currently a house i mean uh yeah a representative 02:16:15.270 --> 02:16:19.610 no i'm getting asked believe it or not people are asking me to run for state senate and state 02:16:19.610 --> 02:16:25.330 house at the same time um i'm not sure if i want to run again right away it is kind of 02:16:25.330 --> 02:16:30.030 it's it's it's kind of expensive to eat stuff a lot of time yeah it's really hard to get ledges 02:16:30.410 --> 02:16:34.670 it's it's a lot easier to add a new law than to take an old one away and i spent a lot of years 02:16:34.670 --> 02:16:39.530 trying to like reduce penalties and protect your rights and get criminal justice reform 02:16:39.530 --> 02:16:45.230 stuff through and it's really hard to get like the good stuff through yeah yeah no doubt well 02:16:45.230 --> 02:16:49.430 thank you and it sounds like a good meetup for like being able to meet those us i mean on 02:16:49.430 --> 02:16:52.650 new hampshire representatives that you want to talk to you like if you have a bill idea and 02:16:52.650 --> 02:16:56.750 stuff like that so thank you for sharing that with us you know the thing we should we should 02:16:56.750 --> 02:17:03.610 you know if we really want to get correct cause chaos we need to get rid of the r's and the d's 02:17:03.610 --> 02:17:09.370 next to the names on the um on the polls when people go to vote basically just the polls 02:17:09.370 --> 02:17:13.470 oh you know when you people go to the polls they they get they see a d or an r next to the 02:17:13.470 --> 02:17:17.790 network maybe an l yeah that would be like well we'd have to remove a whole bunch of stuff 02:17:17.790 --> 02:17:20.810 and thank you so much but if you get rid of that nobody we know who to vote for because 02:17:20.810 --> 02:17:25.410 everybody votes based off the party line and they don't know who the candidates are so you 02:17:25.410 --> 02:17:29.830 cause some serious chaos that would be awesome but i don't know all kinds of things i don't know that 02:17:29.830 --> 02:17:35.510 that would be good for libertarians or not but it certainly would make for even more chaos than 02:17:35.510 --> 02:17:42.990 already exists well i i mean i don't really think that anybody's gonna do it one but also 02:17:42.990 --> 02:17:46.570 oh i don't think it has a chance yeah there's more things that would have to be removed from 02:17:46.570 --> 02:17:49.990 that as well i think because like right now there's even like you can press a button in 02:17:49.990 --> 02:17:54.910 some places where you just vote down party lines did you know that because i did that in in 02:17:54.910 --> 02:17:58.570 utah maybe it's not a new hampshire thing at all i did it in utah when i first voted for 02:17:58.570 --> 02:18:03.210 trump yeah i don't i've i haven't seen that yeah and i didn't i didn't even know anything about 02:18:03.210 --> 02:18:06.590 the other people running i was just like obviously i'm gonna go vote republican i mean we got 02:18:06.590 --> 02:18:11.170 we have paper we have paper ballots in new hampshire which is pretty cool yeah that's true 02:18:12.430 --> 02:18:15.770 well back to the stuff we were talking about before 02:18:15.770 --> 02:18:22.650 were basically censorship from the united's i mean from from europe this time you know 02:18:23.630 --> 02:18:27.950 it's funny like marco rubio getting to tweet that and stuff like that they want to make themselves 02:18:27.950 --> 02:18:32.930 look like oh the united states we care about free speed you know but the government the united 02:18:32.930 --> 02:18:37.490 states the government people the government goons and killers and right thieves they don't really 02:18:37.490 --> 02:18:42.490 care um it's just you know a political thing for them at any point in time it says uh 02:18:42.490 --> 02:18:49.130 the the eu has been enlisted by anti free speech figures in the us to force companies like x and 02:18:49.130 --> 02:18:55.050 facebook to restore censorship of americans after musk brought twitter or sorry bought twitter with 02:18:55.050 --> 02:19:01.370 a pledge to restore free speech protections hillary clinton called upon european officials to force 02:19:01.370 --> 02:19:06.070 him to censor under europe's digital services act i don't i didn't hear about that that's 02:19:06.070 --> 02:19:13.130 horrible nina that's another one of those bad uh laws for sure nina jankovic the former head of 02:19:13.130 --> 02:19:19.490 biden's infamous disinformation governance board appeared before the european parliament she called 02:19:19.490 --> 02:19:27.030 upon the 27 eu countries to fight against the us whoa uh which she described as a global threat 02:19:27.030 --> 02:19:32.970 white she did she's part of the biden's board in the u.s government and she's going to the 02:19:32.970 --> 02:19:38.610 european parliament and saying that the united states is a global threat so please fight against us 02:19:38.610 --> 02:19:43.290 that's crazy you know it's funny is wasn't it wasn't it the democrats who are going after the 02:19:43.290 --> 02:19:49.590 libertarians calling us um what was the word domestic terroristic no it wasn't that um 02:19:49.590 --> 02:19:55.750 but but it was close um do you remember uh dissidents oh maybe it was this yeah yeah 02:19:55.750 --> 02:19:58.730 they're calling us like dissidents or something like that because we were vote what 02:19:58.730 --> 02:20:01.590 would we try to do we try to get a law passed to declare independence in new hampshire 02:20:01.590 --> 02:20:06.010 oh you mean just in new hampshire yeah when we tried to declare independence in new hampshire 02:20:06.010 --> 02:20:10.770 no it wasn't it's the word that means a seditious sedition right talk about seditious 02:20:10.770 --> 02:20:17.630 yeah that's a good point that's exactly what that seems like yeah it almost sounds like not even 02:20:17.630 --> 02:20:21.730 sedition that it's almost like outright treason going to another government and being like hey 02:20:21.730 --> 02:20:26.790 can you yeah can you hurt the place i'm from thank you that i represent you right right democrat 02:20:26.790 --> 02:20:31.010 it's hillary clinton right democrat right no it was actually in this case is nina jankovic but 02:20:31.010 --> 02:20:36.910 who's uh hillary clinton called upon the european union officials to force ilan musk to censor 02:20:36.910 --> 02:20:40.950 her that's different yeah well either way i mean if it's if we're talking about the democrats 02:20:41.510 --> 02:20:49.150 doing this it sounds very very hypocritical it really does so the e you and these enthusiastically 02:20:49.150 --> 02:20:55.750 took up the challenge when they asked for it this year i spoke in the berlin world forum 02:20:55.750 --> 02:21:03.590 which boosted the slogan a new world order with european values whoa bill and hillary clinton and 02:21:03.590 --> 02:21:10.470 other americans cheered on the european efforts the digital the digital services act bar speech that 02:21:10.470 --> 02:21:16.530 is viewed as disinformation or incitement which would definitely be us oh yeah when it was passed 02:21:16.530 --> 02:21:25.310 over the condemnation well incitement to not engage or uh obey i presume the incitement 02:21:25.310 --> 02:21:29.590 is more broad than incitement to violence because we obviously don't incite violence right exactly 02:21:29.590 --> 02:21:33.370 i wanted that's what you're what you're referencing yeah they'd be like they're inciting people to not 02:21:33.370 --> 02:21:38.970 obey our edicts and yeah that's exactly what they would call it when it um when the digital 02:21:38.970 --> 02:21:45.610 services act was passed over the condemnations of many of us in the free speech community 02:21:45.610 --> 02:21:51.350 european commission executive vice president margaret vestiger celebrated by declaring that 02:21:51.350 --> 02:21:57.550 it is not a slogan anymore that what is illegal offline should also be seen in dealt with as illegal 02:21:57.550 --> 02:22:03.330 online now it is a real thing democracy is back what are you talking about nothing can be illegal 02:22:03.330 --> 02:22:10.210 online in the sense that the entrant is the world more free talk live coming up 603 2836 160 02:22:10.690 --> 02:22:17.870 more free talk live coming up hey you are going to love the movie victimless crime spree 02:22:17.870 --> 02:22:24.670 it's hilarious heartwarming and carries a ton of inspiring freedom messages feeling down about 02:22:24.670 --> 02:22:30.410 the lack of liberty in your life you need to put on this film with some friends and have a good laugh 02:22:30.410 --> 02:22:35.570 it's a true story about me and my friends in new hampshire living free singing dancing 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02:23:31.310 on christmas day us president donald trump said they were to send a message to insurgents in the 02:23:31.310 --> 02:23:38.210 country who he claims are persecuting christians fsn's jagruti davai has more from washington 02:23:38.210 --> 02:23:43.530 donald trump has been threatening military intervention in nigeria for some time and this 02:23:43.530 --> 02:23:48.770 was the justification he gave for these strikes which he described as deadly in a social media post 02:23:48.770 --> 02:23:55.010 he said isis terrorists scum have been targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians 02:23:55.010 --> 02:24:00.390 he added merry christmas to all including the dead terrorists of which there will be many more 02:24:00.390 --> 02:24:06.750 if their slaughter of christians continues us africa command said their initial assessment 02:24:06.750 --> 02:24:13.190 is that multiple isis terrorists were killed in isis camps the strikes were coordinated with the 02:24:13.190 --> 02:24:18.390 nigerian government whose foreign minister said they shared intelligence with the us india in 02:24:18.390 --> 02:24:23.810 bangladesh summoned each other's envoys over protests outside their diplomatic missions as 02:24:23.810 --> 02:24:29.390 already tense ties spiral the latest round of formal protests come after right wing groups 02:24:29.390 --> 02:24:35.250 staged protests in several indian cities over the killing of a hindu garment worker in 02:24:35.250 --> 02:24:42.350 bangladesh over allegations of blasphemy fsn's kshitij nagar has more from new delhi the summoning of 02:24:42.350 --> 02:24:47.310 the indian high commissioner by bangladesh is the second such instance in as many days 02:24:47.310 --> 02:24:53.250 bangladesh officials raised objections over protests and what they describe as a failure 02:24:53.250 --> 02:24:59.470 to curb demonstrations and targeting its diplomatic missions the high commission in delhi 02:24:59.470 --> 02:25:06.070 remains under heavy police deployment with security tightened and police forces deployed the killing 02:25:06.070 --> 02:25:12.370 of a hindu man in northern bangladesh earlier in the month triggered public anger in india and sharpened 02:25:12.370 --> 02:25:18.390 concerns over minority safety indian authorities say they are closely tracking developments the 02:25:18.390 --> 02:25:23.430 escalation comes amid a broader political uncertainty in bangladesh following the 02:25:23.430 --> 02:25:29.050 formal prime minister sheik hasina earlier this year us president trump announced a new 02:25:29.050 --> 02:25:36.310 type of battleship set to be used by the us navy and it is one named after himself fsn's 02:25:36.310 --> 02:25:41.190 mitch mccann reports standing beside the defense secretary and the secretary of state 02:25:41.190 --> 02:25:45.170 donald trump announced that the us will build two new trump class battleships 02:25:45.170 --> 02:25:49.930 mr trump told reporters on monday he is calling them the golden fleet and said eventually 02:25:49.930 --> 02:25:55.810 there'll be 25 of them mr trump said the new ships will have 100 times the force and power of any 02:25:55.810 --> 02:26:00.430 other battleship ever built and then there will be nothing else like them the president said that 02:26:00.430 --> 02:26:05.390 the us has not built a battleship since 1994 and said each one will be the largest in the 02:26:05.390 --> 02:26:09.570 history of the world he said they will command respect but added that the world 02:26:09.570 --> 02:26:17.590 already respects america from bureaus worldwide this is fs yep we still do email drop your 02:26:17.590 --> 02:26:22.770 email address in the entry box at free talk live dot com and you'll be kept in the loop with free talk live 02:26:24.530 --> 02:27:00.490 talk live it's back 603 283 6160 that's 603 283 6160 you can call in and bring up whatever's on your 02:27:00.490 --> 02:27:04.990 mind that's the whole point of free talk live you can change the subject you can disagree with 02:27:04.990 --> 02:27:09.250 us it doesn't matter because it's free talk live and you can call in about whatever you want 02:27:09.250 --> 02:27:14.370 with you on free talk live tonight you've got me bonnie angela and mr penguin in that number 02:27:15.290 --> 02:27:24.270 603 283 6160 and we have had many different things talked about in the in the in the 02:27:24.270 --> 02:27:30.070 in the interim between the two segments i was bringing up did you know which state 02:27:30.910 --> 02:27:35.430 is the only one state that has made cannibalism illegal i just learned this and it's 02:27:35.430 --> 02:27:39.530 i don't know and you might think oh maybe it was you know like they heard about the 02:27:39.530 --> 02:27:45.390 donor party eating each other no it was in the 1980s they just need to clarify it's not legal 02:27:45.390 --> 02:27:51.830 to murder somebody in order to cannibalize them yeah yeah you have to wait until they die and then 02:27:51.830 --> 02:27:56.830 once it comes out of them the morgue i guess then you can eat them but even then i don't 02:27:56.830 --> 02:28:01.310 consider like desecration of a corpse isn't that probably not just like enough rules that 02:28:01.310 --> 02:28:05.110 make it like it would probably be essentially illegal and yeah there are so many ways but 02:28:05.110 --> 02:28:09.950 actually there are there this is the thing in some some states this is what i heard i heard 02:28:09.950 --> 02:28:16.910 this whole video about it you can eat human meat but you have to buy it for some from some 02:28:16.910 --> 02:28:21.630 you have to buy it from some other like first of all there has to be like a third party here 02:28:21.630 --> 02:28:26.250 and you buy it from that company and i don't remember oh man i'm i'm missing like the 02:28:26.250 --> 02:28:32.230 caveat i was about to get into a human or horse meat no human meat that's i don't even understand 02:28:32.230 --> 02:28:37.210 how the long port because like the person like agreed to be part of it or something like that so 02:28:37.210 --> 02:28:41.630 like when they died of natural circumstances yeah exactly so wait could you what about oh my gosh 02:28:41.630 --> 02:28:47.230 what if you get what if you get hooked up with the canadian company that kills people like the 02:28:47.230 --> 02:28:54.410 assistants and dying the maids yeah so you can just buy depressed people's meat and then sell it 02:28:54.410 --> 02:28:58.350 bodies and they eat it yeah because they and they just sign it away anyways because what do they 02:28:58.350 --> 02:29:05.350 care they're killing themselves i i'm sorry but like i just can't imagine anybody soiling green 02:29:05.350 --> 02:29:12.510 dude yeah that's horrifying um i did want to bring up this thing that we probably should have 02:29:12.510 --> 02:29:16.870 brought up closer to the ice conversation because like we already did talk a lot about 02:29:16.870 --> 02:29:21.710 the ice stuff we already had to say i mean actually angelo uh came in in the second segment 02:29:21.710 --> 02:29:26.070 maybe he hasn't got to say everything he was interested in saying about it but this from media 02:29:27.030 --> 02:29:33.290 no media ight well i i don't even know how the heck you'd say that media ight um dot com 02:29:33.750 --> 02:29:40.170 the tsa is giving the names of all air travelers to ice you have some weird websites when you get 02:29:40.170 --> 02:29:43.250 your news off drudge it's like you click on it and then all of a sudden you're on media ight 02:29:43.250 --> 02:29:50.770 dot com i thought some meditate no it's media ight dot com um the transportation security 02:29:50.770 --> 02:29:55.470 administration is providing immigration and customs enforcement with the names of 02:29:55.470 --> 02:30:01.650 all travelers passing through american airports that's pretty that's pretty crazy the tsa has 02:30:01.650 --> 02:30:06.850 submitted lists of names to the immigration agency multiple times a week since the program began 02:30:06.850 --> 02:30:11.850 in march the new york times reported on friday but this is a bit older of an article i held on 02:30:11.850 --> 02:30:18.370 to it's december 12th so um ice then checks travelers information against its own internal 02:30:18.370 --> 02:30:24.190 list of those subject to deportations though the number of those deported due to this program is 02:30:24.190 --> 02:30:29.770 unknown documents obtained by the times show that at least two high-profile arrests were 02:30:29.770 --> 02:30:37.290 carried out based on tsa's information one was this woman's name is not a me it's a any any i 02:30:37.290 --> 02:30:43.770 um maybe it's annie maybe that's why i say a and y annie lucia lopez belowza the college student 02:30:43.770 --> 02:30:48.490 arrested at boston logan airport while traveling to visit her family for thanksgiving this was 02:30:48.490 --> 02:30:54.110 another crazy one because she was like been in america all her life too well let me let me let me 02:30:54.110 --> 02:30:59.830 make sure i understand this correctly so we all have to surrender our privacy because of two 02:30:59.830 --> 02:31:06.810 high-profile arrests yeah i guess so then again it's unknown how many have been i how 02:31:07.350 --> 02:31:12.850 how do people justify this in their head that like support government and i don't get this this one 02:31:12.850 --> 02:31:17.710 the annie lucia lopez belowza one is like when you read about that it's crazy it's like the story 02:31:17.710 --> 02:31:22.990 is crazy too yeah yeah it's like no one would want it yeah you know well not no one but i bet a 02:31:22.990 --> 02:31:27.170 majority of americans don't want people like her deported is what i'm trying to say yeah right right 02:31:27.170 --> 02:31:31.610 right um so the college student arrested at boston logan airport while traveling to visit 02:31:31.610 --> 02:31:36.070 her family for thanksgiving she was met by immigration officers at her gate and deported 02:31:36.070 --> 02:31:40.990 to honduras two days later it's so scary um it's just scary to be like a 18-year-old girl or 02:31:40.990 --> 02:31:45.350 whatever deported and and she's from here like i read the it's not explaining the rest of this it 02:31:45.350 --> 02:31:49.510 says i'm sorry wait what she's from here that's what i'm saying like she was born in honduras 02:31:49.510 --> 02:31:55.010 but she immigrated here and it's very young and she's just a college student yeah this this is 02:31:55.010 --> 02:32:00.070 exactly what i was talking about earlier in the show it's i don't i don't understand how people 02:32:00.070 --> 02:32:07.930 can like hold up signs and support trump and uh you know and it's not just trump but yeah i mean 02:32:07.930 --> 02:32:12.310 like it doesn't matter whether it's biden or you know whoever is in power these these people are 02:32:12.310 --> 02:32:19.210 scum she was 19 it says that um it talks about how that i brought up a scene in an 02:32:19.210 --> 02:32:23.730 article to see like how old is she uh she was but has been in the united states and she was 02:32:23.730 --> 02:32:29.670 seven years old when her parents brought her here to a seek asylum and um she was deported 02:32:29.670 --> 02:32:34.050 even after federal judge issued an order barring the government from removing her yeah this was such 02:32:34.050 --> 02:32:39.510 a weird thing i read about this one in particular are they still doing the um the the whole 02:32:40.090 --> 02:32:44.530 see i thought they stuck okay so supposedly they were ordered to stop extraditing people 02:32:45.330 --> 02:32:51.610 that were like not allowed to be extradited because of judges orders right well she 02:32:52.230 --> 02:32:58.130 i think just was this before that happened uh i don't know what she had a visa she's been here for 02:32:59.330 --> 02:33:04.790 since she was seven right so it's like a long it's a long time it's like over 10 years 02:33:05.530 --> 02:33:10.310 oh here's what is not a visa so in 2014 an immigration judge ordered her removal but she 02:33:10.310 --> 02:33:15.390 just stayed in the country illegally instead so like you can get an article i mean uh uh 02:33:15.390 --> 02:33:19.950 sorry not article you can get a letter in the mail it says you must come to the courthouse 02:33:19.950 --> 02:33:24.110 and you're going to be deported yeah you can just not go to the courthouse right so i guess that's 02:33:24.110 --> 02:33:29.030 what she did i got you but that was 2014 and she's only 19 now so like she had to be really young then 02:33:29.890 --> 02:33:36.050 um so wait when she was 14 she got no she wasn't 14 if she was 19 now she was born in the letter 02:33:36.050 --> 02:33:41.810 when she was 19 no wait no when did you get the letter in 2014 but she's 19 now so i don't know 02:33:41.810 --> 02:33:46.790 how many nine nine she got a letter for maybe her parents got it but you know i'm saying 02:33:46.790 --> 02:33:51.390 she was ordered from the judge i'm following it i'm following i guess her asylum was denied 02:33:51.390 --> 02:33:56.110 and they were ordered to leave i guess the whole family was and they didn't see this is the messed 02:33:56.110 --> 02:34:00.670 up part it's like these are minors that we're talking about they never had any they never had 02:34:00.670 --> 02:34:05.530 any ability to influence any of this in the first place so what right do we now have to 02:34:05.530 --> 02:34:10.370 extradite them i mean this is just this is just messed up um well were her parents 02:34:10.370 --> 02:34:14.990 deported in 2014 or are they still in the country i haven't found anything the other thing 02:34:14.990 --> 02:34:20.470 probably are still in the country but the children were extradited but the or deported 02:34:20.470 --> 02:34:23.950 but the the parents were not i was just thinking maybe if the parents got deported 02:34:24.810 --> 02:34:29.530 previously and she like stayed in the country with family or something and grew up and tells 02:34:29.530 --> 02:34:34.570 now that she's past 18 the government can come after her she never had any control over any of 02:34:34.570 --> 02:34:39.030 this in the first place it was some adults who had control and this is all because of the law 02:34:39.030 --> 02:34:44.270 like how can you how can you do this to somebody like how can you harm somebody 02:34:45.410 --> 02:34:51.630 again like after you've denied them like human rights basically to have their own defense but 02:34:51.630 --> 02:34:55.870 but they didn't because you told them they couldn't because they were a minor and it's like 02:34:55.870 --> 02:34:59.390 and now you just get the x you know you just need to deport you get to get to deport them 02:34:59.390 --> 02:35:03.550 well what another thing that's crazy about it is uh she wasn't traveling out of the country 02:35:03.550 --> 02:35:08.590 she wasn't trying to come back and traveling from boston to i think texas to visit family 02:35:08.590 --> 02:35:12.650 so i think her family's there you know i there's something that um interesting story i 02:35:12.650 --> 02:35:19.350 actually have so i recently bought a plane ticket with bitcoin or some sort of crypto anyway 02:35:20.010 --> 02:35:27.530 and um i got a this is with a self custody wallet and i got a hotel room as well same company 02:35:27.530 --> 02:35:36.750 and when i uh the hotel went through just fine when the airfare uh appeared to go through 02:35:36.750 --> 02:35:45.110 just fine as well but then i get an email saying that i tripped their aml which stands for anti 02:35:45.110 --> 02:35:50.850 money laundering procedure well and the question is why would i have tripped their aml it well the 02:35:50.850 --> 02:35:53.870 only reason would be because i use i have it it was a self custody wallet and they don't know 02:35:53.870 --> 02:35:58.910 what the source of funds are so they they're they're basically trying to force me to identify 02:35:58.910 --> 02:36:04.850 myself even though they already have my name and everything right and my birthday they're 02:36:04.850 --> 02:36:11.770 trying to force me to identify myself in order to get a refund uh even because i said it actually 02:36:11.770 --> 02:36:16.970 when they when they asked for aml stuff i said no i don't want to and uh you know you can just 02:36:16.970 --> 02:36:22.230 refund me and they're like oh you have to do aml in order for a refund just for the refund just 02:36:22.230 --> 02:36:27.190 for the refund and um but but this all goes you know kind of all gets into you know this this 02:36:27.190 --> 02:36:32.270 this nonsense or this absurdities um that these um you know the government and the airlines and 02:36:32.270 --> 02:36:39.310 the companies that are you know this was the sorry was it the airline that said this is the 02:36:39.310 --> 02:36:43.770 company that sold the ticket so this is to be the booking agent was it and it wasn't bit refill 02:36:44.430 --> 02:36:49.150 no this would have been travel or something i think that's fine anyway i was just like it would 02:36:49.150 --> 02:36:55.830 have been pretty big news if it was bit refill because you know no no um no but but it but the 02:36:55.830 --> 02:37:00.050 point is that the the aml wasn't tripped because of the hotel park there were two 02:37:00.050 --> 02:37:04.650 separate purchases by the way from the same company the hotel didn't trip aml it was only the 02:37:04.650 --> 02:37:11.150 flight that tripped aml right so i mean just think about this for a moment they're basically 02:37:11.150 --> 02:37:20.410 forcing people to identify themselves to travel domestically and not just at the airport gates 02:37:20.410 --> 02:37:30.670 right um not just at the security line well so so i thought i made this name up um it says another 02:37:30.670 --> 02:37:34.490 one of the people that were arrested due to tsa tipping off them and giving them information 02:37:35.130 --> 02:37:41.610 was marta brazada randero slavia and i literally have it spelled differently and i wrote how i 02:37:41.610 --> 02:37:45.970 would pronounce it brazada and i said i think i made up this name in a good in a little note 02:37:45.970 --> 02:37:50.670 on my phone my mind is blown when i was a kid i thought i made up the name selena and then i heard 02:37:50.670 --> 02:37:55.110 somebody got kidnapped named selena i was like that's the name i made up but it's very possible you 02:37:55.110 --> 02:37:58.590 know i heard it and it didn't realize i heard it but i thought i made it up based on just like 02:37:58.590 --> 02:38:03.430 pretty word sounds you know i mean it's a little like out there i don't think i would like 02:38:04.050 --> 02:38:07.910 you know the chances the chances of you having come up with a unique name are probably 02:38:07.910 --> 02:38:13.550 pretty slim i know but only because there are so many people in this world eight billion 02:38:13.550 --> 02:38:20.750 nine eight nine billion people in this world the chances are good that somebody else has come 02:38:20.750 --> 02:38:25.210 up with the same name and the same spelling even yeah that you would have come up with that's 02:38:25.210 --> 02:38:29.330 blowing my mind i was like is that the one i said i wrote like i write down names i like 02:38:29.330 --> 02:38:32.550 you gotta you gotta come up with some really bizarre names in order to find 02:38:33.290 --> 02:38:38.170 or not be able to find somebody else with the same name that is seriously crazy but anyways 02:38:38.770 --> 02:38:43.390 the same office also used the same office i'm not sure what they mean by that sorry because 02:38:43.390 --> 02:38:48.910 i skipped ahead a little because i told you guys with a different article about the any lady or girl 02:38:48.910 --> 02:38:53.510 any whatever sorry it's just like that's a really weird spelling so it really like 02:38:53.970 --> 02:38:58.650 i think i'm like is it any but anyways that same office also used tsa information to tip 02:38:58.650 --> 02:39:04.950 off officials to arrest marta presada randeros levia at assault lake city airport in october 02:39:04.950 --> 02:39:10.190 former ice official with knowledge of the program told the times that tsa gave ice 02:39:10.190 --> 02:39:17.030 officers photos of potential targets whoa they even got photos i mean this all goes back to the 02:39:17.030 --> 02:39:21.050 whole they take photos when you go to sorry when you're in um line for the tsa now that they'll 02:39:21.050 --> 02:39:24.610 take photos of you and i've been just saying no and you just refuse don't you don't have to 02:39:24.610 --> 02:39:31.110 yeah um but not only that um this just goes to you know evidence further that the the whole 02:39:31.110 --> 02:39:37.550 tsa thing is security theater it was never anything else um it's not one of your security has 02:39:37.550 --> 02:39:43.970 nothing to do with security it's about control not security um security might you might build 02:39:43.970 --> 02:39:48.150 argue security for preventing people from bringing bombs on planes or guns or something like that 02:39:48.610 --> 02:39:53.470 you can't but that's not what that's not what they're actually doing here well but yeah you 02:39:53.470 --> 02:39:59.670 can see that but they don't do it anyways they they've done studies and all the guns get through 02:39:59.670 --> 02:40:04.550 tsa i know that's what i mean like it's it's it's it's security theater um the whole real 02:40:04.550 --> 02:40:10.830 id thing same thing uh the terrorists had passports had valid passports or driver's licenses actually 02:40:10.830 --> 02:40:15.790 issued by i think it was um florida if i recall correctly um the point is that none of this stops 02:40:15.790 --> 02:40:21.150 terrorism none of this makes us any safer um it's it's just it's literally a mechanism of being 02:40:21.150 --> 02:40:26.090 able to control people and it's not and and this is an example of um you know people who are 02:40:26.090 --> 02:40:33.490 immigrants but they also use it to control these american citizens as well um what is it 02:40:33.490 --> 02:40:40.210 now you just pay off the tsa oh no i went to $50 or no i went into the i float i keep 02:40:40.210 --> 02:40:44.470 forgetting to tell the listeners this i flew twice without real id have you flown since they said you 02:40:44.470 --> 02:40:50.930 have to have real id i have not oh i was a i had a trip planned for january 11th but that ends i ended 02:40:50.930 --> 02:40:57.970 up ended up not actually having to go um because i could do a remote testimony um for for a trial 02:40:57.970 --> 02:41:04.670 that i'm supposed to be a testify at so oh wow okay well um when i did it um flying to alabama 02:41:04.670 --> 02:41:09.370 and back basically they just will be like hey we got someone who doesn't have real id they rub 02:41:09.370 --> 02:41:13.390 something on your hands i didn't refuse it ian probably would have wanted me to refuse it but 02:41:13.390 --> 02:41:17.390 i didn't refuse that they just rub this little soft thing on my hands and then they put it in 02:41:17.390 --> 02:41:21.090 a machine to see if you have like that's the bomb detector bomb stuff on your hands yeah the 02:41:21.090 --> 02:41:25.610 bomb residue is way to text and um they asked me a bunch of like questions in a really like 02:41:25.610 --> 02:41:30.170 snarky way like where are you going you got family there and you know like they ask you way 02:41:30.170 --> 02:41:37.130 more extra questions um but it says though the airlines have previously provided tsa with 02:41:37.130 --> 02:41:43.890 passenger information to provide or to compare with federal databases the agency has generally 02:41:43.890 --> 02:41:49.950 steered clear of domestic criminal or immigration matters said one former agency official who 02:41:49.950 --> 02:41:56.630 spoke to the times on the condition of anonymity oh wow okay so i was going to ask like the whole 02:41:56.630 --> 02:42:02.230 thing where they talked whereas somebody told the time and a tsa agent tsa agent gave the times 02:42:02.230 --> 02:42:10.670 that information about um the marta brazada rinderos la vea lady um yeah i did wonder 02:42:11.450 --> 02:42:16.050 if they're just openly like hey just you know this is happening like are they allowed to like 02:42:16.050 --> 02:42:22.050 are they giving their names and everything but well did you want to talk about the the other 02:42:22.050 --> 02:42:28.730 yes the fed ending paper checks are they making paper checks illegal i don't know i just want to 02:42:28.730 --> 02:42:32.350 hear about so this is the story it's from cnn business could paper checks be on the way out 02:42:32.350 --> 02:42:37.490 like the penny um so it's interesting because it's apparently the government is involved in 02:42:37.490 --> 02:42:41.770 paper checks and i didn't know this necessarily i don't think um but when the us mint stopped 02:42:41.770 --> 02:42:47.170 making pennies last month the first time in 238 years it drew a lot of attention but there have been 02:42:47.750 --> 02:42:52.150 quiet moves to stop using paper checks as well the government stopped sending out most paper 02:42:52.150 --> 02:42:56.490 checks to recipients as of the end of september part of an effort to fully modernize federal 02:42:56.490 --> 02:43:00.990 benefits payments and on thursday the federal reserve put out a notice that suggests it is 02:43:00.990 --> 02:43:05.890 considering but only considering the winding down of checking services it now provides for banks 02:43:05.890 --> 02:43:12.210 so basically what that means is that if they decide to um no longer provide the service how 02:43:12.210 --> 02:43:19.690 are banks going to you know do checks because the they're using the federal government for the 02:43:19.690 --> 02:43:24.430 checking basically there they're a customer of the federal government so what does the federal 02:43:24.430 --> 02:43:28.110 government do in this case because like ian and i whenever we've bought checks we never buy it 02:43:28.110 --> 02:43:32.270 from the bank we buy them from like a check company like the fed gives them those checks 02:43:32.270 --> 02:43:37.750 i think those checks all end up going to a government and then that's and then they like 02:43:37.750 --> 02:43:40.990 to they do the clearing from there something like that the central bank statement said that 02:43:40.990 --> 02:43:46.030 as an alternative to winding down those services it is mulling at more uh investment in its 02:43:46.030 --> 02:43:49.710 check processing services so they're they're providing apparently some sort of check 02:43:49.710 --> 02:43:54.490 processing service but note that would come at a higher cost but it is also considering 02:43:54.490 --> 02:43:59.270 not making any such investments in order to keep costs roughly unchanged that would 02:43:59.270 --> 02:44:05.970 lead to reduced reliability of those services going forward over time check use has steadily 02:44:05.970 --> 02:44:10.370 declined digital payment methods i need it for tons of stuff so what the heck yeah i know and 02:44:10.370 --> 02:44:15.290 this is the thing um people still use checks all the time for things like for example um to pay a 02:44:15.290 --> 02:44:19.230 you know maybe your one care guy or somebody comes to the house to fix a furnace everything 02:44:19.230 --> 02:44:24.410 i do with the city yeah the same thing here i pay the city as well with checks um which is 02:44:24.410 --> 02:44:28.790 kind of a mistake because they like to um you know not keep their stuff secure and then they 02:44:28.790 --> 02:44:33.050 then your account gets taken over but anyway um well i did want to say what i googled what 02:44:33.050 --> 02:44:37.150 does the fed do with paper checks it says it processes paper checks for banks by acting 02:44:37.150 --> 02:44:41.430 as a central clearing house receiving checks from local banks crediting their accounts right yeah 02:44:41.430 --> 02:44:46.430 yep so i just want to know what what are they even saying they have to do okay that that makes 02:44:46.430 --> 02:44:53.390 sense so they don't make the checks so how does that work with like uh like a so they just want 02:44:53.390 --> 02:44:57.130 direct deposit then yeah what are they going to essentially they want to force everybody into 02:44:57.130 --> 02:45:03.370 digital um payments because i i think it has to do with basically um being able to control you um 02:45:03.370 --> 02:45:07.370 it's it's easier to control you when everything's digital it's a lot harder to control people when 02:45:07.370 --> 02:45:14.270 you know you have other options um so checks have yeah checks remain the important 02:45:14.270 --> 02:45:17.650 payment mechanism for consumers and businesses you said discontinuing federal reserve check 02:45:17.650 --> 02:45:21.810 services is not an efficient solution to the growing problem of payment fraud particularly 02:45:21.810 --> 02:45:27.370 later the ongoing role of checks in the payments system the history of checks is a little uncertain 02:45:27.860 --> 02:45:35.070 but they are thought to date back nearly 2400 years yes 2400 years the first modern checks 02:45:35.070 --> 02:45:40.070 gained popularity more than 500 years ago and the early 1500s in Amsterdam Holland people who had 02:45:40.070 --> 02:45:47.890 accumulated cash began depositing it with the Dutch cashiers for a fee and a safer alternative 02:45:47.890 --> 02:45:53.490 to keeping the money at home then the cashiers agreed to pay the debts out of the money in each 02:45:53.490 --> 02:45:59.110 account based on the depositor's rain order or note to do so said it posts in the history of 02:45:59.110 --> 02:46:05.470 checking on the site checkkeeper an online check printing service the end of paper checks could 02:46:05.470 --> 02:46:09.750 cause problems for consumers who don't have access to a traditional bank account and who 02:46:09.750 --> 02:46:13.830 still depend on the small slips of paper to receive some of their funds including their 02:46:13.830 --> 02:46:19.150 paycheck about six percent of adults were unbanked in 2024 according to the federal reserve 02:46:19.150 --> 02:46:24.610 I know people who are unbanked and they're American citizens born and raised here 02:46:26.050 --> 02:46:32.510 yeah it's it's it's kind of um I actually know people who were using bitcoin and didn't have 02:46:32.510 --> 02:46:37.350 a bank account or credit cards or debit card of any kind in order to do online banking 02:46:38.050 --> 02:46:42.750 and people don't realize this but you can still in some instances use money orders 02:46:43.870 --> 02:46:50.290 and cashiers checks to buy stuff online so there's still uses for for for those products and services 02:46:52.190 --> 02:46:58.670 wait but using checks online well you send a check in the mail and then you place the 02:46:58.670 --> 02:47:02.590 order online and then when they receive the check they send you the goods I guess I've never done 02:47:02.590 --> 02:47:09.850 that in any way that I can think of so you guys are too young yeah um I was I was yeah I uh 02:47:09.850 --> 02:47:16.850 that's um it's kind of like catalog ordering like think of like a like an internet catalog 02:47:16.850 --> 02:47:22.530 instead of a printed one you gotta send your order like with a check yeah I I mean the last 02:47:22.530 --> 02:47:27.770 time I used the money order I was like 11 years old and it was a time period in which the um credit 02:47:27.770 --> 02:47:33.970 cards were barely being accepted yet on the internet yeah I guess I have sent a check in with 02:47:33.970 --> 02:47:36.450 something but it's an application to the government it's always government it's 02:47:36.450 --> 02:47:39.490 almost always government when I have to be used to check like I just have to pay my rent 02:47:39.490 --> 02:47:45.830 directly to it's literally I'd write to you the um oh what did I write it was like one of the like 02:47:45.830 --> 02:47:52.470 federal like what is that called what's the Fed the Federal Reserve I think it was to the Federal 02:47:52.470 --> 02:47:56.630 Reserve no not the Federal Reserve the Department of Defense no no no but it was on Dugway and it 02:47:56.630 --> 02:48:02.050 was it was directly to I think the Fed um but either what I'm trying to say is because I lived 02:48:02.050 --> 02:48:05.990 on a military base yeah so I'm some sort of federal agency like the United States federal 02:48:05.990 --> 02:48:10.810 government is that who you know no I remember being like this is crazy I'm writing it to here 02:48:10.810 --> 02:48:14.890 here's the Fed here's the interesting thing 10% of Americans don't even have a smartphone 02:48:14.890 --> 02:48:21.710 so they're trying to force this stuff down our throats basically and against our will um and 02:48:21.710 --> 02:48:28.010 all in the name of uh well I don't even know if they even said in the name of security here 02:48:28.010 --> 02:48:34.710 but they often use that to you know try and get people to agree and um it's it's it's not security 02:48:34.710 --> 02:48:38.830 it's completely in this case like maybe they're trying to say like oh well not enough people 02:48:38.830 --> 02:48:41.950 use it and and like just hope that people go along with that because they're trying to use it 02:48:41.950 --> 02:48:46.430 like it's exactly the same as the penny percent of Americans don't even have don't even have a 02:48:46.430 --> 02:48:52.770 smartphone okay so just think about that format okay you're basically saying that anybody over 02:48:52.770 --> 02:49:00.150 the age of 60 is like not allowed to like pay their bills anymore because that's how they do it yeah 02:49:00.150 --> 02:49:06.050 yeah I mean um before my dad passed away he had the hardest of time using a smartphone now he did 02:49:06.050 --> 02:49:13.530 have a computer um but a lot of stuff these days you know everything people were trying to push 02:49:13.530 --> 02:49:18.210 him to use the smartphone and he couldn't do it he just didn't have the the faculties he had 02:49:18.210 --> 02:49:25.090 I mean he he wasn't he was he had not lost anything like up here but just just the overall abilities 02:49:25.090 --> 02:49:29.530 you know uh to use a smartphone or the child smartphones are challenging and people I think 02:49:29.530 --> 02:49:34.370 a lot of young people don't really understand that um but um I I didn't grow up with smartphones but 02:49:34.370 --> 02:49:40.210 I you know grow I did grow up using you know palm pilots and things like that and um and even 02:49:40.210 --> 02:49:44.490 you know even though I've you know picked up those skills I still understand I very well 02:49:44.490 --> 02:49:51.050 understand um and I'm in my 40s now but I very well understand you know the challenges particularly 02:49:51.050 --> 02:49:56.190 somebody who who's on the older side um you know is going to face with especially like my grandma 02:49:56.190 --> 02:50:02.330 can barely see like your phone yeah exactly um yeah I mean some of this some of these things I you 02:50:02.330 --> 02:50:06.270 know I can already you know personally experience a little bit of um you know when it comes to 02:50:06.270 --> 02:50:10.150 just looking at a computer screen for example sometimes it's hard to see the computer screen 02:50:10.710 --> 02:50:15.150 or focus in on you know text on the screen it takes a little bit longer to focus in on it 02:50:15.150 --> 02:50:19.730 and um so even like you know you know you think about people you know grandma having hard time 02:50:19.730 --> 02:50:23.370 using a smartphone for digital payments well even if you give her a computer she's gonna have a 02:50:23.370 --> 02:50:28.690 hard time with it right um and makes no sense I um I deal with Sarah doesn't know Sarah only 02:50:28.690 --> 02:50:34.150 owns a dumb phone she's not old I deal with a lot of old people um every day and I'm telling 02:50:34.150 --> 02:50:38.510 you it's like even just getting a credit card number over the phone from somebody it can be a 02:50:38.510 --> 02:50:44.690 challenge so it's been free talk live you can see more of us tomorrow at the same time and also 02:50:44.690 --> 02:51:06.750 free talk live dot com thanks for listening peace this hour free talk live is brought to you by dash 02:51:06.750 --> 02:51:12.290 digital cash dash is the cryptocurrency designed to be used for spending in addition to being one 02:51:12.290 --> 02:51:16.870 of the world's first cryptocurrencies dash was the first crypto project to have a decentralized 02:51:16.870 --> 02:51:22.970 autonomous organization that to this day continues to improve and promote dash 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02:53:16.530 free talk live here at listen dot free talk live dot com from feature story news in san francisco 02:53:16.530 --> 02:53:21.890 i'm ira spitzer with a look back at some of the week's top stories the united states launched 02:53:21.890 --> 02:53:28.590 airstrikes against isis in the north of nigeria on christmas day us president donald trump said 02:53:28.590 --> 02:53:34.170 they were to send a message to insurgents in the country who he claims are persecuting christians 02:53:34.170 --> 02:53:40.030 fsn's jagruti davay has more from washington donald trump has been threatening military 02:53:40.030 --> 02:53:45.450 intervention in nigeria for some time and this was the justification he gave for these strikes 02:53:45.450 --> 02:53:51.150 which he described as deadly in a social media post he said isis terrorists scum have been 02:53:51.150 --> 02:53:56.750 targeting and viciously killing primarily innocent christians he added merry christmas to all 02:53:56.750 --> 02:54:01.770 including the dead terrorists of which there will be many more if their slaughter of christians 02:54:01.770 --> 02:54:08.730 continues u.s africa command said their initial assessment is that multiple isis terrorists 02:54:08.730 --> 02:54:12.810 were killed in isis camps the strikes were coordinated with the