WEBVTT 01:23.660 --> 01:30.320 and welcome to the Beth of Fresh Air December 19, 2025. We're almost at the shortest day of the year. 01:30.940 --> 01:36.840 It never gets bright here anymore. It's the middle of the day and we've got an intense snowstorm 01:36.840 --> 01:43.780 and it's dark, so I had to turn all the lights on today. But welcome. I'm back today with Dagmar 01:43.780 --> 01:48.320 Stansova and I'm just going to make a few announcements before we get started and I bring 01:48.320 --> 01:55.420 her on. So hello, Mrs. Eliza. Thanks for coming on the camera check. You guys can see me. I was 01:55.420 --> 02:00.960 having some trouble yesterday. That was a little panic, but hello, Mike New. Glad to have you here 02:00.960 --> 02:05.940 as well. So yeah, I think you can just let me know if you can see me. That would be great. 02:06.860 --> 02:11.240 And so just a couple of announcements. I want to let you know that coming up Friday, 02:11.240 --> 02:16.740 I'm going to be coming on with Alex Michael, a conspiracy music guru that will be at 11am 02:16.740 --> 02:23.260 central time since he is in Spain and then a little quiet over Christmas and December 29, 02:23.480 --> 02:28.700 Jacob Lieberman is coming back on. Video is good. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you very much. 02:29.440 --> 02:35.420 And so yeah, we're going to be talking today with Dagmar Stansova again and it is part two 02:35.420 --> 02:42.060 of decalting natural health. This is a very big subject. I feel like it could go on and on 02:42.060 --> 02:47.260 into infinity, but you might catch some patterns. I'm a pattern hunter and a lover of patterns. 02:47.960 --> 02:53.340 And they can show you, you don't necessarily need to know everything about everything once you 02:53.340 --> 03:00.220 see the patterns. So here I'm going to put this banner up and without further ado, I'll bring 03:00.220 --> 03:08.400 Dagmar on. Hello and welcome Dagmar. Thanks for coming. Hello, Beth. I'm here with our favorite 03:08.400 --> 03:18.840 subject and get to break it down with our decades of experiences and share with people what we've 03:18.840 --> 03:25.680 been through. Hopefully shed some light on how a parent always wants to prevent their 03:25.680 --> 03:36.020 children from suffering. You're like, I just want you to know what I experienced. It's kind of 03:36.020 --> 03:42.360 that I'm willing to share my mistakes and I see that you are as well. So that someone else 03:42.360 --> 03:47.780 potentially could not make them and save themselves a little time in trouble and money and agony and 03:48.580 --> 03:54.660 yeah, it's there's something powerful about taking ownership of what decisions you've made 03:54.660 --> 03:59.320 and how you've influenced people. I mean, that's one of those things like, you know, 03:59.360 --> 04:05.020 no human being ever sees themselves as a villain in their own life. We all we all 04:05.020 --> 04:10.880 are doing our best, but tend to look back and say, Oh, I actually kind of was a villain in someone 04:10.880 --> 04:18.720 else's life. You know, when I look at what what ways of eating I've been through and how many 04:18.720 --> 04:23.600 people I shared it with, you know, there's a there's a little bit of that, you know, and the 04:23.600 --> 04:29.840 only thing that that, you know, brings life back to me is to just be able to acknowledge and 04:29.840 --> 04:36.760 say we're constantly learning. Exactly. And that's a beautiful thing. It's it's to me, that's how I 04:36.760 --> 04:41.820 choose my friends that they're not going to draw a line in the Senate say, Okay, that's it. I know 04:41.820 --> 04:47.380 enough. I'm done not not looking into anything anymore. Not going to upset the apple cart. 04:49.620 --> 04:56.300 Yeah, but that being said, I mean, my God, I have so much I feel so deeply for anyone 04:56.300 --> 05:02.760 who is on this journey, where either they've had something not go right at some point in their life 05:02.760 --> 05:07.440 and then they decided, Okay, I'm going to try this, or I'm going to try that. Or where they were 05:07.440 --> 05:13.580 just completely let down by the by Western medicine, or even alternative medicine, where 05:13.580 --> 05:18.640 they realized like medicine's medicine. So, you know, why don't I just look at what's 05:18.640 --> 05:25.580 what I'm putting in my body and understand it with greater depth. So not that I'm qualified 05:25.580 --> 05:33.320 in any way whatsoever, you know, to talk about any of this. But all I have is, I guess, well, right 05:33.320 --> 05:42.560 now about 48 years of experience in in, you know, not just trying one thing for a week or two, 05:42.860 --> 05:48.660 but for like, we're talking year or two. So and I have tried many things, as I heard you 05:48.660 --> 05:54.160 mentioned that in your podcast yesterday, we were saying 27 things, but that's not even all of 05:54.160 --> 06:02.900 them. Different ways of eating. And did I notice a pattern while it was happening? Not really, 06:02.900 --> 06:06.920 because it's a very similar pattern. And once you're in it, you're in the groove, you know, 06:06.940 --> 06:15.260 like one diet will will say, you know, 30% this 40% that and, you know, and another diet will say 06:15.260 --> 06:21.160 80%, 10% and 10%, you know, dividing, you know, the macro nutrients. And they all have these 06:21.160 --> 06:25.960 little regimens, you know, and it's so seductive, because you think, Oh my God, this is it. 06:27.020 --> 06:31.840 Now I'm really going to get it right. You know, and to me, that's like the big pattern, 06:31.880 --> 06:37.260 you know, the desire to like, I'm going to get this right. I'm the one thing, you know, 06:37.300 --> 06:43.000 it's going to like really make it all okay. And then you so want it to be that way. 06:43.340 --> 06:49.960 And then even after a year, you're going, I feel worse. But I'm just not doing it perfectly 06:49.960 --> 06:57.840 enough. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it engages the programming that there's, there's one of the 06:57.840 --> 07:03.180 programs, it's simply called a perfect program. And it wants to get it right. And it thinks that 07:03.180 --> 07:09.160 if I get it right, then I'm going to survive, which some people won't be able to relate to 07:09.160 --> 07:12.780 because they're like, no, I have no fear of dying whatsoever. But it really does the programming 07:13.300 --> 07:20.300 has us by the short and curly because of the threat that's behind it. And so I can very much 07:20.300 --> 07:25.580 relate to that and have been through a lot. Today, we're going to focus on ones that I don't have 07:26.140 --> 07:31.020 necessarily particular experience with, but because Dagmar does, that does make you 07:31.580 --> 07:37.900 qualified for this conversation. So, you know, we're not pontificating about ideas here. This 07:38.610 --> 07:42.540 lived experience. And we don't want to throw the baby in the bathwater out because 07:42.540 --> 07:48.900 pretty much every system has something good to offer, right? So that's almost always the case. 07:49.000 --> 07:55.300 And it's the hard part where internally we might want, like, is this good or is this bad? And 07:55.300 --> 08:00.840 it's just not like that. That's back in the paradigm of protocols. And I caught myself 08:00.840 --> 08:06.820 with that yesterday in my interview with Kelsey, how talking about how holding the breath out 08:06.820 --> 08:14.280 makes you more, what is it, not immune, but it builds up your tolerance to CO2. And so I heard 08:14.280 --> 08:18.780 her answer and I accepted her answer. But later my brain is going, yeah, but is that good or is 08:18.780 --> 08:24.460 that bad? Is it good or is that bad? Should I hold my breath out all day long? Like I want to 08:24.460 --> 08:31.100 or like I can. So yeah, it's interesting mechanisms that take place around this. It's 08:31.100 --> 08:35.980 not it's not just information. It's very much the other side of things. But we're going to 08:35.980 --> 08:42.780 go one for one, we'll see how far we get through this list. And I'm going to be asking you the 08:42.780 --> 08:48.220 questions and we'll see, you know, if we can keep it to three max five minutes on every topic, 08:48.240 --> 08:54.920 we might very well get to the end. And so I'm excited for this because it's kind of like 08:54.920 --> 09:00.880 studying religions where I didn't get involved with every religion. But I love hearing the 09:00.880 --> 09:05.740 the nuances and the little slips and changes that I did have one woman in my life who had 09:06.320 --> 09:11.080 she was actually forced to study every version of Christianity so that they could refute it 09:11.600 --> 09:17.820 as Jehovah's Witness witnesses. And so she was just a wealth of information on all of these 09:17.820 --> 09:23.540 different and you know, because I just I just think of it as one one world, but it's not by any 09:23.540 --> 09:31.100 stretch the imagination. So having said all of that, should we dive in? Sure, let's go for it. 09:31.440 --> 09:36.560 All right. And do chime in in the in the chat here if you have any experience to share or 09:36.560 --> 09:41.960 questions or happy to answer where we can. So the first one is the body ecology diet. That's 09:41.960 --> 09:49.400 by Donna Gates. It's an anti candida, lots of fermented foods, food combining. So now I 09:49.400 --> 09:56.040 reading this, I have some experience with it. But what did you find first that is good awareness 09:56.040 --> 10:03.720 for you within that? Well, just any kind of discipline, it brought awareness to the 10:04.380 --> 10:10.700 microbiome, you know, the gut. So it did bring that to my attention. But I was still so far off 10:10.700 --> 10:16.680 from having any clue as to, you know, what the function of candida might be, why you would 10:16.680 --> 10:23.180 have candida to begin with? And what does what kind of toxins does candida favor? What does it 10:23.180 --> 10:30.860 multiply and show up? So I was, you know, pretty clueless. But I stuck to it and I kept doing it. 10:30.980 --> 10:37.080 And, you know, it was those days when it was the 80s, and everybody's doing like, 10:37.940 --> 10:42.960 you know, brown rice, everything is whole grain, whole grain, whole grain, whole wheat, 10:42.960 --> 10:50.900 everything should be whole, whole, whole. Unbeknownst to me, that actually is not the best for your gut 10:50.900 --> 11:04.400 because it's very high in oxalates. And it supports the epithelial delining of the intestine being 11:04.400 --> 11:10.600 quite scratched and poked and prodded. And thinking that because I was eating brown rice, 11:10.600 --> 11:18.060 and I would slather it with olive oil and salt. So in a way, it kind of simple helped me go like, 11:18.120 --> 11:23.920 oh, this is kind of simple, I can be with this. So I started to change my palette from like, oh, 11:23.940 --> 11:31.880 I have to go to a Mexican or an Indian restaurant to enjoy food. And but what really struck me 11:31.880 --> 11:38.400 at some point, which was later, maybe 10 years later, I wasn't doing it anymore. But the woman 11:38.400 --> 11:47.340 who was sharing this, a very lovely woman, but she ended up having all kinds of face, 11:47.520 --> 11:54.320 face work, like, you know, plastic plastic surgery. And at that time, it just, and she never 11:54.320 --> 12:00.760 mentioned it. And she's talking about this is the diet, look how great I look. And I was going 12:00.760 --> 12:06.900 like, I don't know, it just made me feel like it, like, I didn't know what the truth was, 12:06.900 --> 12:12.240 but I could tell that there was something off here. You know, if she had to do that, or if she, 12:12.580 --> 12:16.480 but that, you know, not to judge people who do, because I totally get it, I get it, 12:16.680 --> 12:20.660 as long as you're open about it, you know, and when people ask you, you'll go, oh, yeah, 12:20.740 --> 12:29.940 I did, I did facial, whatever. So that diet was basically, it also got me frightened of 12:29.940 --> 12:39.040 anything sweet, you know, like a banana. I was totally not on the right track. And 12:39.740 --> 12:45.240 just to answer, remember that person who asked a question at the end of the part one that we did? 12:46.180 --> 12:50.100 Remember that person who, who mentioned something like, so are you saying this diet 12:50.100 --> 12:55.700 is that everything else is terrible except for this diet? You know, remember that question? 12:55.700 --> 13:04.160 Yeah, yeah, I'm wondering if maybe we should come to that at the end. I totally want to answer that 13:04.160 --> 13:10.420 just in case, because it'll be a rabbit hole of its own explanation. I just wanted to add that I 13:10.420 --> 13:14.980 totally ruined my son with brown rice. This was, this was, you know, I didn't even know what to 13:14.980 --> 13:20.140 call this diet, but I had obviously adopted parts of it. And yeah, it was such a bad news 13:20.140 --> 13:24.840 thing for a baby to have brown rice. Oh my goodness, I have big regrets with that. 13:25.260 --> 13:29.620 For men's interesting, I ended up like just literally, because I had good results with 13:29.620 --> 13:35.780 ferments at the beginning, typical. And then I thought more is better. So I would gobb out on 13:35.780 --> 13:40.780 fermented foods and kaffirs, make all my own vegetables and everything like that. And I 13:40.780 --> 13:46.480 realized that by the time I got to Garrett's work, had overdone it so severely and not 13:46.480 --> 13:52.120 surprising that all the effects had diminished, all that goodness. And I was just out of habit. I 13:52.120 --> 13:58.440 kept doing that stuff. So now I've gone the other direction. Some probiotic food is good. So now I 13:58.440 --> 14:03.000 just have, I have a half a cup at the most, maybe a quarter cup of kaffir every day done. 14:03.120 --> 14:09.080 And I don't bomb my body with lactobacilli, which may or may not be the right bacteria 14:09.080 --> 14:14.400 for you. That's another thing, right? Like I force fed my son that too. And he's a guy, 14:14.400 --> 14:18.740 probably not the best for him. So he's pretty happy that I don't do that anymore. 14:19.220 --> 14:23.360 I like your point about being frightened of anything sweet and how many people may have 14:23.360 --> 14:31.500 ended up unable to digest carbohydrates in the process of trying to remove all sweetness, 14:31.940 --> 14:36.100 which you really can't do. But, but yeah, we tried, I tried hard for sure. 14:36.680 --> 14:40.840 Yeah. And oftentimes when you switch from one way of eating to another and you really 14:40.840 --> 14:45.740 stick to it like me, you know, I'm the good, I'm the good student. I'm gonna, you know, respect 14:45.740 --> 14:52.000 the teacher and do what the teacher said. When just switching from anything to anything, 14:52.080 --> 14:57.460 you will feel better because your body will either you're adding something that's really toxic, 14:57.460 --> 15:03.600 which will create a reaction and shut down detox. So yeah, it feels like, wow, this is 15:03.600 --> 15:08.860 miracle. It's a miracle. It's working. I feel so good. I have so much energy. 15:09.560 --> 15:14.320 Right. And then it starts to go down and you just then want to ignore it. You just want to 15:14.320 --> 15:20.540 pretend that it's not really happening because we're trained to deny, you know, it's not just a 15:20.540 --> 15:29.180 denial is not just the river in Egypt. It's something that that we are as a survival strategy. 15:29.640 --> 15:35.300 You know, so we don't it feels terrible to tell yourself like, oh, what I'm doing is not working 15:35.300 --> 15:40.820 or what I'm doing is bad for me. It's an awful feeling. You know, exactly. And you have to process 15:40.820 --> 15:47.660 stuff. So as you're doing this, you know, dieting adventure or trying to address, you know, 15:48.820 --> 15:54.500 basically, you're questioning and addressing Western civilization, you know, you're 15:54.500 --> 16:00.300 questioning something that is just totally accepted. You know, you go to a cafe in Italy 16:00.300 --> 16:06.820 or in New York, they're going to serve you espresso. And that's absolutely the way it should be. Why 16:06.820 --> 16:12.520 else go to a cafe, you know, and you're going to eat whatever, you know, crumpets they have. 16:12.800 --> 16:24.220 So it's, it's, yeah, it does require a capacity to, to be okay with being outside of the normal, 16:24.220 --> 16:30.160 you know, the normal way of being totally. Yeah. All right. So in the name of time, 16:30.280 --> 16:37.260 we're going to move on and go to fit for life, which is Harvey and Marilyn Diamond fruit based 16:37.260 --> 16:45.280 morning living foods. Is this is like the same as a raw food diet? Very similar. Same with the 16:45.280 --> 16:52.340 Donna Gates diet. It's very focused on plants, very plant focused and protein is just a little 16:52.340 --> 16:59.480 bit. I think what she said, only 20% of your food will be protein. And the fit for life is just 16:59.480 --> 17:07.060 something that actually my mother started to do that when she was head of the anesthesia department 17:07.060 --> 17:13.840 in New Jersey. She was trying to lose some weight and she was all excited, like, oh my god, 17:13.940 --> 17:19.820 you just have fruit for breakfast. And, you know, made her so happy that it was fast. And 17:20.760 --> 17:29.060 so it's basically just another kind of leading you towards the raw vegan, you know, eat things live. 17:29.520 --> 17:36.260 And so that was kind of no, not a big deal. And so, and so what did you find is, 17:36.260 --> 17:44.680 is good and right in there? Yeah, well, okay, that's with that one. I mean, 17:44.680 --> 17:50.280 it's just the focus on living foods. That's good. You know, I think it's, it's a lovely concept. 17:50.440 --> 17:56.900 But again, so misleading that, you know, you should be eating all these vegetables and fruits. 17:57.940 --> 18:04.020 You know, that's where the life is. So that's a good thing. And with Donna's diet, 18:04.560 --> 18:08.520 I mean, all the ferments, you know, it's an interesting concept, even though ferments are 18:08.520 --> 18:17.740 basically, you know, it's like, it's, it's rotted food. So that's some overlap there with the fit for 18:17.740 --> 18:25.980 life diet. Yeah, yeah. I really, I can't say that I, I guess with the body ecology diet, 18:26.180 --> 18:31.400 I can't say that there was anything really great. Some of the other diets, yes, the fit for life. 18:31.780 --> 18:35.460 Yeah, we'll just, we'll just go with one at a time, if that's okay. Yeah. And then, 18:35.460 --> 18:43.100 yeah, so there's not much to fall back on there, except that value for fresh food, which that's, 18:43.140 --> 18:50.060 that's pretty good for normal people. Yeah, it's a really big step up, you know, to just eat more 18:50.060 --> 18:57.720 cleanly, more organic, you know, live foods, all of that and exercise, you know, so it's not like 18:57.720 --> 19:02.100 a big, it's just people know how to market things really well, but they're not really 19:02.100 --> 19:08.600 marketing anything new. Right, right. Yeah, they had a fit for life. 19:09.620 --> 19:14.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was more of a mainstream. So we'll go right on then to the diet zone. 19:15.540 --> 19:24.300 The zone diet. The zone diet with berry sears, macro ratios and omega, omega three 19:26.360 --> 19:34.280 focus and, yeah, no fats in veggies, but this is, this is, or pardon me, in fruit and fruit. 19:34.900 --> 19:42.380 And yeah, so then the zone, what is, what is the macro ratios? Can you define that for me? 19:42.380 --> 19:48.740 Yeah, macro ratio was like, I believe it was 40% carbs, 19:50.480 --> 19:57.100 30 protein and 30 fat. And so this was, so this was a very mathematical diet where you'd be like, 19:57.180 --> 20:05.920 half an apple with three almonds, you know, and a one ounce of peas together. So you'd 20:05.920 --> 20:12.580 always have this particular ratio. And that was kind of fun. And it also did 20:14.120 --> 20:19.060 simplify my palate again, you know, made me more okay with just simple, 20:19.760 --> 20:25.140 simple foods and you could travel with it easily. And I tormented my poor mother and 20:25.140 --> 20:33.860 father with this diet. Yeah, so in addition to being a simplification of a way to eat, 20:34.100 --> 20:37.840 what other benefits do you think are in there? Or is that it? 20:38.980 --> 20:45.220 I mean, it's, it's, it's well, it's kind of well rounded sort of the way the, 20:45.220 --> 20:51.940 the toxic bio paradigm is the what we're eating right now, you know, to me, it's a very well 20:51.940 --> 20:57.940 rounded diet. There's, there's protein, there's fat, and there's carbs. 20:58.600 --> 21:04.920 Right, right. Yeah. And where this one would likely fall down is in the added fat. 21:04.920 --> 21:11.100 And that idea that the omegas are the brain food. And I know I used to chase the omegas. 21:11.220 --> 21:17.560 And then I was eating that MCT oil, which is disgusting, by the way, especially don't do 21:17.560 --> 21:23.700 anything to it, it immediately rots and goes rancid. I yeah, really regretted that. 21:24.240 --> 21:28.920 And then as it turns out, you're the fat that you add to your food gives your body 21:28.920 --> 21:34.500 a natural storage place for the poison that otherwise might just move through you. 21:34.500 --> 21:40.300 So that's the reason to get, and if we compare it to Garrett's work, he's always looking at 21:40.300 --> 21:44.940 what is the smallest effective amount of something that you could get. 21:45.440 --> 21:52.060 So yes, we need some fat, but it as it turns out, our muscle meats contain plenty of fat. 21:52.340 --> 21:56.780 In fact, we're, you know, I'm in the habit of draining off the fat from the meat. Whereas 21:56.780 --> 21:59.960 before I used to like, Oh, bring on the fat as much as you could get. 22:01.740 --> 22:06.300 And so yeah, I never thought I would agree with my parents on a low fat thing, but here I am. 22:07.760 --> 22:14.300 Yeah, which is why some of those diets that require high fat can be delusional for longer, 22:14.440 --> 22:18.360 or can keep the illusion going for longer, because you're constantly adding so much 22:18.360 --> 22:24.380 more fat to store things in, you know, so you can go on much, much longer going like, 22:24.420 --> 22:28.200 Oh, this is great. I'm great. I'm great. Right. But you're still kicking the 22:28.200 --> 22:35.860 can down the road. That's my favorite expression of Dr. Smith's very useful down the road. 22:36.100 --> 22:40.040 Exactly. Yeah, I can totally relate. I did that for many years until I couldn't. 22:40.260 --> 22:46.000 And then I had to seek deeper knowledge. So quickly, a couple of questions here. Well, 22:46.020 --> 22:51.060 just to zoom through them, fermented cabbage is, you know, the green cabbage is, 22:51.060 --> 22:56.460 is low A, but high in sulfur. So that's the main, I lost my taste for, for 22:57.300 --> 23:01.780 sauerkraut all together. I never thought that would happen. I threw out the last batches. 23:02.400 --> 23:07.780 And yeah, so I know it's so popular. It's possible that was a product of, you know, no 23:07.780 --> 23:12.640 refrigeration and the threat of starvation and the ability, okay, we got the cabbages now, 23:12.760 --> 23:17.000 find a way to preserve them so that they, we can eat later. 23:17.860 --> 23:23.380 Yeah. Yeah. And then are we gonna, is one of these topics going to go deep on oxalates? 23:23.440 --> 23:28.800 Because Maya had a question. It is okay. So we'll save that one, Maya. We're not ignoring. Yeah, 23:28.960 --> 23:35.540 they're ignoring. All right. So here's a next one, which is fun. This is so fun for me. I love 23:35.540 --> 23:40.620 this. Thank you, Dengar. I'm glad you have all this experience. And so the blood type diet, 23:41.040 --> 23:46.000 I remember, I'll just quickly say remember bringing, I believe I had the book at the time 23:46.000 --> 23:51.640 when I was sick with cancer, I was living across the country with, not with, but to work with a 23:51.640 --> 23:58.820 naturopath who had more experience in treatment of cancer than anybody. And I showed him the book 23:58.820 --> 24:04.600 and he said, that's garbage. Get away from me. So I just kind of left it at that. But it has 24:05.060 --> 24:10.760 persisted for a very long time. So first of all, do you think there is some benefit in it? Where 24:10.760 --> 24:17.720 does it? Well, I think the benefit of that one is that it's the first time that I even heard of this 24:17.720 --> 24:27.420 concept of lectins. But it still didn't sink in. It took another at least two decades after that 24:27.420 --> 24:35.900 for that to really sink in and grasp that. And what about lectins? So I heard this too, 24:35.900 --> 24:43.040 that they're just not good for you. It's a protein that's basically nature's way, 24:43.320 --> 24:51.060 because nature does not, or nature, let's just say plants, they can't attack and they can't eat you 24:51.060 --> 25:00.110 or bite you. So this is how they defend themselves. They make their own poisons, which are kind of, 25:00.110 --> 25:06.850 look at them as pesticides, poisons, phenols, there's all kinds of, that people tell you now are good 25:06.850 --> 25:12.870 for you. Because the whole concept of hormesis and all that people say, well, a little poison is 25:12.870 --> 25:17.970 good for you because it's good for your immune system. It gets you going. It's like saying, 25:18.030 --> 25:27.750 a little death is good for you. So it had, there's something about it was very clever. I 25:27.750 --> 25:34.690 think a lot of this is just really good marketing. And you know, this is your field. I mean, you know 25:34.690 --> 25:41.990 how powerful that can be just the title fit for life or blood type diet, and then dividing it into 25:41.990 --> 25:48.830 each blood type with their personality traits and with the foods that are beneficial, that are 25:48.830 --> 25:56.530 neutral, and that are just do not eat. So you just look at this and again, it plays on that 25:56.530 --> 26:02.910 desire to be good and to do the right thing, the perfection, you know, programming that you talked 26:02.910 --> 26:10.330 about. It's, it's, it's so seductive, you know, where you look at like, Oh, I'm a blood type B. 26:10.690 --> 26:17.590 Oh, that means, Oh, yeah, I should not eat that avocado or, you know, or all that chicken, it's 26:17.590 --> 26:23.890 killed all my ancestors because Jews should not eat. That's why they have all these diseases 26:23.890 --> 26:31.110 because of the chicken date. And now I think about now that I understand the toxic bile paradigm, 26:31.250 --> 26:37.850 I'm like, Oh, it's not the chicken. It's the, it's the tons of chicken fat and the chicken livers. 26:38.230 --> 26:44.690 You know, but, but it's, you know, all these conclusions are just, they sound so good because 26:44.690 --> 26:53.190 they're presented so beautifully. You know, yeah. And just looking at it like what are good for 26:53.190 --> 26:58.610 you? Like it'll say coffee, if you're an A type is really good for you. It's a positive, you know, 26:58.670 --> 27:05.630 it's beneficial. And I'm like, I didn't realize it then, but now I'm like, wow, you know, it's, 27:05.670 --> 27:11.950 and it's also their so-called testing is done on the unhealthiest as part of the population, 27:12.250 --> 27:17.490 you know, and they're eating not even organic, there's just, you know, they're eating like 27:17.490 --> 27:26.130 canned tomato paste. Come on, you know, so, so it's, there's really apparently, I haven't gone deep into 27:26.130 --> 27:31.810 the study of it, but there's really no real proof. You know, this is the, this is what's his name, 27:32.030 --> 27:39.550 Dodamo. It's his, he took his father's work and then created an interesting concept around it. 27:39.550 --> 27:45.890 So, right, my, my conclusion from that died, but I have all their books. 27:46.990 --> 27:52.290 Right, right. Yeah, I was going to say like that the seductive part of having somebody just hand 27:52.290 --> 27:58.770 you like, oh, here's you. And then here's your, your protocol, your foods that you can, 27:59.050 --> 28:04.050 you can eat and thrive on that are good for you. And it saves you all of the detective work 28:04.050 --> 28:08.790 of needing to actually get to know yourself and your, understand your relations, you know, 28:08.790 --> 28:13.970 because I had this idea, Apple's good, there, there's good fiber in there and it's low A, 28:14.490 --> 28:19.750 but then three times I eat an apple and I get a, I get a sign from my stomachs going like, no, 28:20.090 --> 28:26.290 don't like this. And it's like, oh, okay, that's new. And it took me a few tries, but I, I did 28:26.290 --> 28:30.830 that work and I just simply am not having apples right now. I'll probably go back to them at 28:30.830 --> 28:36.250 some point, but it's not that apples are bad. It's just that it's not working in my body 28:36.250 --> 28:41.130 right now. So I just love what you just said when you said that it's like handed to you, 28:41.190 --> 28:47.810 that made me think of religion, you know, like when it's handed to you, you feel like, oh, I don't 28:47.810 --> 28:53.970 have to think about it. I don't have to go do all the, you know, the detective work internally, 28:54.290 --> 28:59.650 you know, to see like, what does God mean to me? You know, it's, and it's a great thing. I'm 28:59.650 --> 29:03.670 not saying it's a bad thing. Sometimes it's a beautiful thing when something is handed to 29:03.670 --> 29:09.290 you and you're in a place where like, oh, you know, it just, it really centers and focuses your life. 29:09.310 --> 29:14.650 So there's nothing wrong with any of this, you know, I'm never saying that this is bad, 29:14.790 --> 29:19.450 this is wrong. It's part of the journey, you know, and wherever you end up, like some died 29:19.450 --> 29:24.930 for some person at some point in their life, maybe just the right thing for a couple of weeks 29:24.930 --> 29:30.350 or months, right? But it may be the worst thing for somebody else, you know, because we're 29:30.350 --> 29:36.170 all in different stages. But I, it drives me crazy when people say, well, everybody's different. 29:36.690 --> 29:42.970 Everybody's unique. Yeah, yeah, we all have organs. We all have a heart. We all have a brain. So 29:42.970 --> 29:50.830 we are, I think, more alike than, than different. But we do have different ways of getting rid of 29:50.830 --> 29:56.650 crap, getting rid of poisons, you know, we're in different stages of that. Like if you're 12, 29:56.650 --> 30:04.670 you're going to have, hopefully, a lot less accumulated toxins than if you're 70. So that's, 30:04.790 --> 30:08.750 anyway, that's just an aside, but go on, go with the next, what's the next one? Oh, this is an 30:08.750 --> 30:15.690 interesting one. Yeah, yeah, that is funny with the blood type, because I gave so much blood, 30:15.790 --> 30:21.170 not donation, but I was tested so many times. And I never ever found out my blood type, 30:21.170 --> 30:26.190 which was hilarious. So I couldn't even go down this road. But yeah, so next on the list 30:26.190 --> 30:33.390 is a Jennifer nutrition blindfolded raw eating guided by smell. Yeah, it's called the gene fit 30:33.390 --> 30:39.410 diet. And I, and I know both of these people who started in they wrote a book, that was the most 30:39.410 --> 30:45.290 fascinating diet I was ever on that really taught me something really interesting about, 30:46.110 --> 30:52.770 you know, how, how tuned in we are. And it's based on the concept that it's you only eat things 30:52.770 --> 31:02.870 completely raw, but it includes meat, fish, eggs, honey, vegetables and fruits. So that's an organs 31:02.870 --> 31:09.670 and all of that. But the way that you eat is you blindfold yourself. And only rich people 31:09.670 --> 31:16.190 can afford to be on this diet. Because every time you eat, you just have to have a big table and you 31:16.190 --> 31:22.190 put, you know, like, 10 different fruits, 10 different vegetables, you know, five different 31:22.190 --> 31:29.930 meats and fish, and you blindfold yourself, and you smell each one. And the one that makes you 31:29.930 --> 31:36.550 really salivate is the one that you end up eating in the, and you only eat one at a time. 31:37.150 --> 31:44.750 So it was fascinating because what I found is that, like a strawberry, one day smelled like 31:44.750 --> 31:51.930 gasoline, same batch of strawberries, and then the next day it might smell like strawberry shortcake. 31:53.330 --> 31:59.790 And so the concept of this is that your, your olfactory senses will let you know what your 31:59.790 --> 32:07.510 body needs to keep building itself. So it was a great idea. And, and I was so enamored of that 32:07.510 --> 32:12.390 because they had a child and, you know, like with children, you can really like do that, 32:12.590 --> 32:16.710 you know, spread the table and see what they'll be really drawn to eating. 32:17.470 --> 32:24.550 But it was completely not practical. And the fact that it included, you know, the eggs 32:24.550 --> 32:30.050 and no dairy, though, there was absolutely no dairy that's not considered part of natural food. 32:30.270 --> 32:37.410 But it really taught me a lot about how, you know, our sense of smell is quite phenomenal 32:38.070 --> 32:43.330 that one food, you know, when it's in its true raw state, not cooked, so it doesn't count 32:43.330 --> 32:48.850 for anything that's been heated or had any kind of chemical reaction. So, but I was like, 32:48.850 --> 32:53.110 wow, my nose can completely have a totally different smell 32:56.010 --> 32:59.650 depending on where I'm at, what day it is and how I feel. 33:00.570 --> 33:04.390 Right. So that would be one of the strengths, because I noticed that that right now, 33:04.450 --> 33:09.870 I thrive on higher potassium. So I'm drinking potassium chloride water. It tastes good and 33:09.870 --> 33:14.450 yummy to me. When I put that stuff on food, that tastes good. But there may come a time 33:14.450 --> 33:17.370 where I'm like, oof, but what, you know, what's that? 33:18.390 --> 33:23.670 Yeah. Yeah. Well, in the gene fit diet, anything that is like a supplement would not count. 33:24.130 --> 33:31.350 But but I too have that same same response with potassium citrate. I love the taste of it. 33:31.430 --> 33:36.810 And I hate it. And it will cause me a bile dump after like four or five days of using a citrate 33:36.810 --> 33:41.970 right now. I want to make one quick point about the salivating. And it's possible. I don't 33:41.970 --> 33:48.110 I haven't verified this, but I just thought of it that the more you salivate, the more it's 33:48.110 --> 33:52.210 let's check this if this is true or not, the less digestible it is. 33:52.410 --> 33:57.710 Like literally the more that's why a piece of gum will create so much saliva, because it's 33:57.710 --> 34:03.930 desperately trying to break the gum down and, you know, making enzymes and sending the 34:03.930 --> 34:10.130 the, which is actually your blood, by the way, the saliva is a is your blood coming through 34:10.130 --> 34:15.230 the glands and coming saliva. So what do you think of that? Is that I think 34:15.230 --> 34:21.790 from my little experience with the gene fit diet, that was the shortest one I did. That was only a 34:21.790 --> 34:29.490 couple of months. Was that that when you would taste that strawberry, or if it was a piece of meat, 34:29.710 --> 34:35.450 raw meat, and you would taste it when it smelled like when it smelled pleasant, 34:35.450 --> 34:43.490 and you would salivate the flavor of it would actually be like heaven. You'd be like, 34:44.190 --> 34:48.350 you know, having orgasms and like, like a piece of meat could taste like 34:49.690 --> 34:54.530 indescribable, almost sweet. You know, so, so there's something about, 34:55.710 --> 35:02.810 you know, which really we can question. What are we human beings that we can change the flavor 35:02.810 --> 35:07.130 of something? Right. Yeah. So no opinion on that one. So I'll leave that open. 35:07.930 --> 35:16.270 Yeah. Yeah. If anybody has any details on that. And so we'll move now to the raw primal diet, 35:16.450 --> 35:22.970 some in common with the other. You're, you're saying argenous and vonder. Argenous, 35:22.970 --> 35:28.990 argenous, vonder planets. Yeah. That was the diet that I was on the longest. 35:29.770 --> 35:41.070 And that was a very high fat, raw dairy, raw meat, raw organs, kind of a diet, which Garrett, 35:41.230 --> 35:47.110 Garrett or Smith have been on that, or try it. Yeah. And many of the people that he's worked 35:47.110 --> 35:52.690 with as well came from the raw, the raw food, raw meat. So this would include no, 35:52.690 --> 36:03.370 no plant material, correct? Oh, no, there's plenty of fruits and vegetables and green juice is a big 36:03.370 --> 36:11.970 part of it. Celery, parsley, cilantro type juices. Okay. Yeah. There's, but a lot of raw dairy, raw 36:11.970 --> 36:19.590 cream, you know, those kind of fun, fun foods. What else about the raw and things like 36:19.590 --> 36:28.330 ceviche and, you know, all basically raw meats and fish. Yeah. And lots of butter. 36:30.370 --> 36:36.890 So the premise being that it being raw, it is unadulterated. They like it was, I think 36:37.510 --> 36:42.790 David, our avocado wolf would say cooked food is poison. And they would point to some 36:43.550 --> 36:48.830 weird biochemistry that would happen in the heating process, which I believe some of it 36:48.830 --> 36:53.430 can be true. But again, you know, when you get a molecule, when you're down to the molecular level, 36:54.130 --> 37:03.390 a molecule of calcium is a molecule of calcium. Now, what we know is to be vitamins are 37:03.390 --> 37:09.010 destroyed in the cooking process that if that's true, that's good. Because most of those vitamins 37:09.010 --> 37:14.790 are actually toxins. So in a way that gives some credence more, much more to cooked food, 37:14.790 --> 37:21.230 which I gravitated towards. I did my raw food, although I never did raw meat. I didn't do raw 37:21.230 --> 37:26.630 dairy until recently when we got our contraband. Should I say that online? I don't know. And 37:28.510 --> 37:36.710 so yeah, the whole, like there is a certain detox that comes from it. I did experience 37:36.710 --> 37:41.630 what I thought to be benefits. But here's one important point I also talked about with 37:41.630 --> 37:47.930 Kelsey yesterday is around that a lot of the, especially say the green juices and the raw, 37:48.110 --> 37:56.250 the raw plant food and the raw organ meat will get you high because of the poison content, 37:56.250 --> 38:02.530 especially copper. Yeah. And a lot of times people mistake, they think, Oh, this is great. 38:02.670 --> 38:08.370 I'm detoxing. You are just removing what you in taxed. So people think they're getting some 38:08.370 --> 38:15.730 deep detox, but it's just you're constantly adding more and more of it. And yes, you do get high. I 38:15.730 --> 38:24.550 even on my YouTube channel, I still have it on there where I do liver shots with raw milk. And I 38:24.550 --> 38:30.730 would take raw liver, put it into a little shot glass and swish it down at those disgusting. 38:30.730 --> 38:38.570 But man, I and I would even say like, Oh, this is, this is like coffee without the caffeine 38:40.430 --> 38:47.270 because you do feel incredibly like suddenly your, your eyesight gets sharper. And not that 38:47.270 --> 38:52.650 I want to seduce anybody into getting into this. But basically, it puts you into so much fight 38:52.650 --> 38:57.430 or flight, the poison of it is so strong that even like I'm talking like a little pill 38:57.430 --> 39:04.090 size piece of liver that I would, you know, swash down and it would be like, Whoa, you're, 39:04.230 --> 39:09.130 you feel alert because there's an emergency going on. There's a poison coming in. So yes, 39:09.290 --> 39:14.590 you're alert, awake. Your eyesight is better. Your hearing is better. And you have energy 39:14.590 --> 39:22.410 because you're about to die. You know, your body's going, come on now. You know, so exactly. 39:22.410 --> 39:28.890 Exactly. Yeah. It's a drug like effect and drugs are poisons and, and you get high for a reason. And 39:28.890 --> 39:33.130 your body's probably even sending off endorphins saying like, Oh, you're, you're being hurt, 39:33.230 --> 39:41.210 hurt poor thing. Here's some painkillers to go along with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, 39:41.250 --> 39:45.770 but with the, with like the green juice drink, you know, we use that, that cilantro 39:46.290 --> 39:51.650 and celery juice and all that. It's really hard to grasp. It took me a long time 39:52.450 --> 39:57.170 I think it was Dr. Chafee's lecture that he gave on plants are trying to kill you 39:58.110 --> 40:02.430 where he talked about that, that it just started to register. I'm going, Oh, 40:02.950 --> 40:08.490 that's why I feel like shit. Why I don't want to drink that celery parsley juice. 40:09.550 --> 40:16.010 But I've sold myself on that it is good for me. Exactly. Excellent point. When you think that 40:16.010 --> 40:19.470 it's detoxing you, because every time I had a green juice, I've also something else would 40:19.470 --> 40:24.610 happen. And it's like, you say your body's just going, Oh, in with the poison. Oh, it's the poison. 40:24.910 --> 40:30.210 Like run to the toilet. Same thing. Sometimes with cream that I would do. And I thought, Oh, 40:30.230 --> 40:39.370 wow, this cream is really detoxifying me. You know, lucky me. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Raw 40:39.370 --> 40:42.890 organs, that is dedication. I ain't going, I could barely eat a cooked one myself. So 40:42.890 --> 40:47.510 luckily, I never did dose on any of that. I took some pills though. You never took organ 40:47.510 --> 40:54.270 pills? Never. No, I just my brain wouldn't go there. So it's like, I got it got an FU just 40:54.270 --> 40:59.590 I had no reason I just didn't. A lot of my brain saved me from a lot of stuff that way. 41:00.030 --> 41:07.770 Pretty happy. So yeah. And yes, we agree that alcohol is a poison. Absolutely. Yep. So 41:07.770 --> 41:13.470 all right, we're just just as an aside to people who might ever try this kind of diet, 41:13.470 --> 41:23.090 the women who were on this diet always ended up really overweight and miserable. And the men always 41:23.090 --> 41:35.510 had this funky stinky old cheese smell from all that Rondary, you know, I never, I never did it 41:35.510 --> 41:41.670 enough like as intensely as everybody else did it. You know, I still had some part of me that 41:41.670 --> 41:46.810 was like, Okay, well, wait a second, I don't know about I'm not doing no smoothie with a blended 41:46.810 --> 41:54.970 kidneys in it or blended liver with, you know, fruits. No. Oh my goodness. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. 41:55.610 --> 42:01.630 All right. So we're going to go on to Douglas Graham's 80 1010 diet, which is high carb raw 42:02.150 --> 42:09.470 vegan tissue breakdown. Does that mean promoting the autophagy that glorified autophagy? 42:09.470 --> 42:16.850 It's just an extremely detoxifying diet. Well, it's really not the I mean, that's my old language 42:16.850 --> 42:22.470 saying that it's detoxifying. Really, what it is is that it is so full of poison that you just 42:22.470 --> 42:30.910 can't stop and you keep trying to get it out. And you lose a lot of weight. I mean, it's, it's 42:33.230 --> 42:44.070 mostly it's 80%. You know, plants, carbs, 10% protein, 10% fat, and only fat from nuts. It's all raw. 42:45.450 --> 43:00.330 And it's like, you know, some of the people on that diet, I mean, when I was on it, like, I 43:00.330 --> 43:06.870 ate peaches, you know, like, and the other thing that all these raw diets do, they will destroy your 43:06.870 --> 43:12.590 teeth. Right. With a high carb kind of thing in a ton of fruits and everything like that. Yeah. 43:12.990 --> 43:21.050 And then you're adding even dry fruits. I mean, it is just a only really young people can 43:21.050 --> 43:26.750 sustain this for a while. Right. Right. Yeah. For anybody that struggles with constipation, 43:26.750 --> 43:33.850 take the dry fruits and I think all dried foods out of your diet or rehydrate them before you use them. 43:34.110 --> 43:40.130 I think even dried meats will qualify for that because it instantly is going to pull water from 43:40.130 --> 43:44.690 your body to hydrate and in order, because you can't digest anything without water. 43:45.090 --> 43:48.670 It's just not going, and you're not going to detox anything without a medium it's 43:48.670 --> 43:53.370 going to move out on. So yeah, the dried fruits, it's all barely like I have, you know, 43:53.370 --> 43:58.610 one fig, even though it's kind of on the love your liver path for some calcium, but 43:59.230 --> 44:03.330 I just have to back off. And then yeah, the nuts, I ruined myself completely 44:03.790 --> 44:10.350 from that very high in oxalates, high in the fats that you don't necessarily need or want. 44:11.790 --> 44:17.830 And then yeah, the high carb is good because it's better than the low carb, at least your body 44:17.830 --> 44:25.090 won't become maladaptive to carbohydrates in the process. But I'm guessing also, you know, 44:25.270 --> 44:33.670 some elephant in the room with the 80% plant diets is too much fiber. And I think about it. Now 44:33.670 --> 44:41.490 I'm thriving at this current stage, I'm thriving on less fiber, not zero. I get a little bit 44:41.490 --> 44:47.110 with my meals, but I mean, a decent amount, maybe a quarter cup of beans and I will have 44:47.110 --> 44:55.170 cooked celery or some other low wave veg. But not like I was gorging on before and especially 44:55.170 --> 45:02.010 all of the lettuces that have are super high in insoluble fiber, which is just like a bulldozer, 45:02.050 --> 45:07.410 like you were saying, the injuries from the inside, all of that, all of that fiber becomes 45:07.830 --> 45:15.890 such a labor and a workout. And it just doesn't need a scraper, especially women, 45:15.890 --> 45:22.930 compared to men need, need more scraping, but women tend to need much less of that. 45:24.350 --> 45:30.250 Yeah. And is it too, like, see, here's a good question. Is it true too much fiber causes colon 45:30.250 --> 45:36.330 cancer? So you can't answer it like this. That's like saying is, is fiber good or is fiber bad? 45:36.490 --> 45:42.070 So this is going to be entirely contextual for each individual as you go through, and it's 45:42.070 --> 45:49.710 going to change. Right? So personally, I was eating way too much fiber. I would get totally either 45:49.710 --> 45:56.410 backed up or I would get major bile dumps and my bells still wouldn't move nicely with all that 45:56.410 --> 46:04.130 fiber. So yeah, it's, you have to find your Goldilocks place, which means your exact right 46:04.130 --> 46:12.750 amount for right now back to the detective work. So yep. Yep. And do you have a chocolate diet on 46:12.750 --> 46:17.890 here, by the way? Well, that's the superfoods. Okay, perfect. Perfect. So we're getting the 46:17.890 --> 46:24.850 chocolate Jackie. Yeah, just either. Nice. All right, this is fun. So the next one, the 46:24.850 --> 46:29.710 Hippocrates Institute Diet by Anne Wakemore. I recognize her name and Brian Clement, 46:30.590 --> 46:34.730 Vegan Raw and Wheatgrass. So they, they brought wheatgrass to us, did they? 46:35.150 --> 46:40.930 Yeah, well, that's part of the Hippocrates Institute is in Florida. And man, I bought all 46:40.930 --> 46:49.050 those books, all those fruitarian guys. And, and I remember going to a big conference of this, 46:49.090 --> 46:57.930 and Brian Clement, who looks very strong and muscular, you know, for he was young then, 46:57.930 --> 47:03.750 I don't know how he is now, but obviously it was working for him for a moment like everything works. 47:04.930 --> 47:10.750 And I know a part of it is probably because he's got a whole Institute based on it. But I remember 47:10.750 --> 47:18.590 his, his very lovely wife went up to was coming to speak to us. And she walked up on stage and 47:18.590 --> 47:24.850 she passed out. And I remember that was when I was like, I'm going, this is not working for her, 47:24.850 --> 47:30.210 but she's the wife. So she had, and she was so lovely, but she's I think of Swedish descent 47:30.210 --> 47:37.010 or somewhere from the Viking area. And her just eating this, this, this, this raw vegan diet and 47:37.010 --> 47:43.990 all that wheatgrass was, and she had, I think they have a couple of kids too. So that was when 47:43.990 --> 47:51.490 I was like, Oh, you know, something is not working here. But they help people with cancer, 47:51.490 --> 47:59.250 you know, people go there to the Institute and they, they, you know, feed them their raw meals. 48:00.430 --> 48:07.410 So everything works for a moment at some point. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like you said, 48:07.490 --> 48:14.570 even a broken clock is right twice a day. And it's a path, you know, people sometimes start 48:14.570 --> 48:23.110 the path and maybe it gives them time. So you know, who am I to say, but well, the only thing that 48:23.110 --> 48:32.130 I have to say is that I've been there. And, and I hope that nobody has to go through so many 48:32.130 --> 48:37.670 paths as I did. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, that wheatgrass, it's so nasty. I think you guys 48:37.670 --> 48:43.090 heard me say it, I was, I was taken, taken, you know, doing the one shot or the two shots. 48:43.090 --> 48:48.450 And then I think one day I had three, and the whole thing just came right back up. I just went 48:48.450 --> 48:55.110 like, are you fucking kidding me? Like this, right? And yeah, I think, Oh, I'm really detoxing now. 48:55.310 --> 48:59.390 It's like, no, no, I've been poisoned. But I didn't go back. There was, there was something 48:59.390 --> 49:05.390 that I, my system is, is good. It will override even if I've got some belief or 49:05.390 --> 49:09.590 intellectual knowledge, I'm just like, okay, I'm just backing away and I can't explain it. 49:09.590 --> 49:16.810 And I don't need to either. So yeah, that disgusting stuff, super high. And, you know, 49:16.830 --> 49:20.730 we're very lucky for the animals, they eat the grass, and they take the poison, 49:20.770 --> 49:26.910 and they stick it in their liver and give us nice clean muscle meat, or at least relatively clean. 49:27.250 --> 49:33.670 So yeah, yeah. And, you know, so there is some, a little bit swearing sometimes around 49:33.670 --> 49:39.650 here, Chrissy. So you could, I don't know what you can do there. But just, just so you know, 49:39.850 --> 49:46.650 there is, there is some, and I don't do it a whole lot, but I will do it for emphasis. 49:47.090 --> 49:54.050 I'll try to contain myself. The old country farmer out of me for a moment. 49:56.350 --> 50:02.610 And so we'll go on now to fruitarianism, not entirely unrelated to the Hippocrates, 50:02.610 --> 50:10.230 but that same path, you know, it's just, I mean, insane to, you know, I did it. 50:10.230 --> 50:14.630 And I think that's when I really started to see like some really bad things happening, 50:14.670 --> 50:19.270 but I still didn't connect it. Like I developed a sun allergy. 50:20.350 --> 50:27.210 My body was trying to get stuff out through my skin and the sun makes, promotes detox. So every 50:27.210 --> 50:34.350 time the sun hit me, it would be like, I get these hives and, and, and that messed me up for, 50:35.190 --> 50:40.510 for, and I'm still working on that. That, that was what kept me going all these years from 50:40.510 --> 50:48.130 one thing to another until I found this paradigm, which is the only one that explains 50:49.730 --> 50:52.750 what's happening and is having an actual effect. 50:53.630 --> 50:59.590 Right. Right. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. So let's, let's just a little bit of detail here with a 50:59.590 --> 51:06.010 pure fruit diet. You're getting such low protein. And what that means is that your body will not 51:06.010 --> 51:13.190 be able to make basic building blocks for, you know, whether it's building muscle or repairing 51:13.190 --> 51:19.490 or all of that kind of thing that the, the, the fallout from a lack of protein is, is ginormous. 51:19.490 --> 51:24.750 They go to the third world and give them vitamin A shots, but really it's probably a severe 51:24.750 --> 51:28.970 deficiency of protein. I don't know if you want to say anything more about that. 51:29.370 --> 51:34.870 Yeah. Yeah. I just thought of another one that I was on, as you mentioned that it was, 51:35.050 --> 51:40.010 have you ever heard of the body electric? People did all kinds of energetic work and, 51:40.010 --> 51:47.570 and part of their premise was that they also did only raw and focused on a lot of 51:47.570 --> 51:52.210 fruits and things like that. And all those people, my God, 51:54.110 --> 52:00.150 the, you know, where they ended up, if they kept going and going with that, what that lack of protein, 52:00.850 --> 52:07.730 I remember one of the leaders of this great movement, he said to me, he said, 52:07.850 --> 52:15.490 anything that has structure is a protein. You know, I'm going, okay. And, and he actually 52:15.490 --> 52:23.670 became blind. Oh, darn raw vegan. He was older, you know, and he kept doing it, kept going and 52:23.670 --> 52:28.650 going and preaching and teaching all this stuff about, you know, getting your minerals from your 52:28.650 --> 52:35.050 juices. And he would also add humic and falvic, those kinds of minerals too. And I remember one, 52:35.170 --> 52:42.190 and that was very high in raw chocolate of any kind. And I remember at that time 52:42.190 --> 52:48.190 that I was just constantly sitting on the toilet and I thought, oh, I'm really cleaning out non stop. 52:49.910 --> 52:56.070 I know. I know the belief is just a really hard one. And so the, the fulvic minerals, 52:56.350 --> 53:02.550 it was fulvic and humic, did you say? Yeah. And what's the deal? I also never 53:02.550 --> 53:07.810 wanted to take those. What's what's humic minerals is very similar to Shilajit. 53:08.950 --> 53:12.690 Shilajit is the Indian version, but it's ancient plant, 53:15.190 --> 53:22.050 ancient plant just decomposed. And the fulvic is just an extraction from the humic. And it's more 53:22.050 --> 53:26.590 concentrated. But you know, everybody's like, oh, this is the best stuff ever, because it helps 53:26.590 --> 53:31.390 you absorb everything and it will heal your teeth. And, you know, it's fully absorbable 53:31.390 --> 53:39.590 minerals. And you're just, I stopped those when, when I, when I got to the low oxalate 53:40.470 --> 53:45.570 diet. That's when, that's when it started to dawn on me. Wait a second. These are ancient plants. 53:48.130 --> 53:53.830 And we're not talking, you know, grapes and apples. We're talking plants, vines or whatever 53:53.830 --> 53:58.490 was growing back then. Right. Right. Yeah. So funny, they managed to sell them dirt, 53:58.490 --> 54:04.770 right? Effectively, because the plants turn into dirt. And, and then so then we get to buy that. 54:05.090 --> 54:11.970 A lot of money for it. Right. Exactly. I know it's like, ooh, Shilajit, like this. 54:12.570 --> 54:16.890 Well, you know, and also Shilajit, you get pretty high from it, same with the mines. 54:17.530 --> 54:21.930 And it can have good effects. I noticed that like the humic really did, 54:22.070 --> 54:25.490 when I was having some dental work done, and I did a lot of those, 54:26.000 --> 54:33.250 they did kind of firm up my teeth. Okay. But, but is it, was it a long term or was it just short 54:33.250 --> 54:40.030 term? I don't know. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Putting your, putting your body into a state of 54:40.030 --> 54:46.490 not detoxing, meaning the bile won't be in the blood and it won't be, you know, washing the 54:46.490 --> 54:51.050 mouth, which like I said, the saliva is, is a kind of form of blood or comes from the blood. 54:51.470 --> 54:55.330 And so, yeah, your teeth could improve while you don't have a lot of 54:55.330 --> 54:59.370 bile in your system and you're not detoxing. But like you said, just kick in the can. 54:59.690 --> 55:04.770 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't do any of that. And my teeth are stronger than ever. 55:05.530 --> 55:10.630 Amazing. Yeah. I'm in month 15. What are you in? I think we're about the same. Yeah. 55:10.690 --> 55:16.490 I've been saying 14, but it might be about that. Yeah. It was September, October, 55:16.490 --> 55:21.450 I started last year. Yeah. Me too. September I started. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. I think 55:21.450 --> 55:28.850 we're on the same schedule. All right. So we're moving along now to the macrobiotic diet from 55:28.850 --> 55:37.410 Michio Kushi, a Yin Yang balance and seasonal eating. So what's, what are the positives here? 55:37.850 --> 55:44.750 Well, eating what's in your environment, that's, that's a positive. And the just, 55:44.750 --> 55:51.350 there's a certain kind of a ritualistic cleanliness or more of a spiritual aspect of the Yin and the 55:51.350 --> 55:58.370 Yang of foods, you know, to it that I kind of enjoyed. It's very monk like, you know, the way 55:58.370 --> 56:05.070 everything is served and all of that. But I've seen, I didn't do well on it. And I've seen 56:05.070 --> 56:09.630 other people who didn't because they're so little protein to once in a while you'll do a fish. 56:09.950 --> 56:13.850 But there's really, you know, which is so interesting that you're eating from your 56:13.850 --> 56:19.150 environment, but what, there's no rabbits or birds or anything in your environment. There's 56:19.150 --> 56:25.850 only like fish. So there was something off about that. And I saw people who were, 56:26.810 --> 56:34.330 it's just a very high carb diet. It's just cooked, but still plant based, you know, focus on plants. 56:35.030 --> 56:38.270 Okay. Yeah. So would it be lacking in protein as well then? 56:38.270 --> 56:43.950 Yeah, I would say it would be very lacking in protein, but in your opinion, 56:43.970 --> 56:47.310 could you get enough protein from a vegetarian diet? 56:48.870 --> 56:58.630 I tried. I really tried. I couldn't. I couldn't. And I paid for it. Because I really wanted to, 56:58.750 --> 57:05.010 I was just so like, I don't want to eat these animals, which for me was a big, big process 57:05.010 --> 57:12.290 to go internally to recognize that I too have a predator with a higher conscience, 57:12.530 --> 57:19.450 so that at least I can, when I do eat the animal, I had to, you know, own what that is, that, yeah, 57:19.690 --> 57:25.730 I am eating something else because not wanting to eat an animal. I also didn't want to own 57:25.730 --> 57:31.870 that part of me. And so I've had to like do a whole journey with that. And whenever I do 57:31.870 --> 57:37.790 eat animals, I take it very seriously. And I do eat animal every day. I take it like whatever I'm 57:37.790 --> 57:44.970 eating, I do have to not have to, but it just feels like to pay honor to life and to give something 57:44.970 --> 57:50.810 from myself in the world, you know, that, that, that I'm doing this for, for more life, 57:50.850 --> 57:59.550 not just to like suck life off of something else. So that's my, that's my, my way of addressing 57:59.550 --> 58:03.850 it. But yeah, I bet that's going to help somebody because that can be a really big 58:03.850 --> 58:10.110 hang up that, you know, they're not against meat, except on the ethical personal, their own emotional 58:10.110 --> 58:14.810 side and relationship with that. I was going to say, by the way, for the vegetarian kind of a 58:14.810 --> 58:20.790 diet, you probably technically could get 50 grams minimum of protein a day, but you'll 58:20.790 --> 58:26.710 probably get way too much fiber in the process. That's where it would fall down with me anyway. 58:26.710 --> 58:34.070 Mm hmm. Yeah, you have to eat more quantities to exactly. Yeah, I like the simple, you know, 58:34.110 --> 58:37.390 I like to feel that when I eat, I don't want to have to feel it digesting. 58:38.530 --> 58:42.170 That used to be normal for me. Every time I'd eat, you know, my stomach, you know, 58:42.190 --> 58:46.190 in the morning, it would be nice and flat. By the end of the day, it would be more, 58:46.230 --> 58:53.070 you know, distended. And so that, that's doesn't happen anymore ever. Yeah. That's, 58:53.070 --> 58:57.190 that's a really great plus. Like if I knew I was going to have a date or something, 58:57.550 --> 59:06.950 I couldn't eat the whole day. Now I can eat whenever I want. Nice, nice. And yeah, so if we go on 59:06.950 --> 59:13.310 with the specific carbohydrate, carbohydrate diet, SCD, illegal foods for gut conditions. 59:13.850 --> 59:18.950 Do you want to say that? Yeah, SCD. Well, you know, that because I was convinced, you know, 59:18.950 --> 59:24.070 how we convince ourselves and how again, it's all advertising, you know, you have SIBO, 59:24.390 --> 59:28.770 small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. I was like, yes, that's what I have. That's why my stomach 59:28.770 --> 59:33.210 is this way. And that's why, you know, I don't feel well. And that's why I have a sun, 59:33.910 --> 59:41.650 you know, issue. So I was like, that's what it is. It's, it's, it's, I have to go on 59:41.650 --> 59:47.290 this specific carbohydrate diet and, you know, all lists of legal and illegal again, 59:47.290 --> 59:53.210 very seductive. Ooh. And, but one of the things that I did learn there was the distinction between 59:55.050 --> 59:59.930 monosaccharides, disaccharides, and polysaccharides. And so basically on this diet, you avoid all 59:59.930 --> 01:00:04.990 poly and dye, which are just sugars. So dye is two sugars, poly is many sugars, 01:00:05.330 --> 01:00:08.510 and monosaccharides is one sugar. So you only eat things that are 01:00:09.310 --> 01:00:14.550 monosaccharides because those are easier to digest and to absorb and all of that kind 01:00:14.550 --> 01:00:21.870 of stuff. So I did discover that many, many things like preservatives are polysaccharides 01:00:21.870 --> 01:00:27.310 and things that surprised me, you know, or polysaccharides. So that was educational, 01:00:27.330 --> 01:00:31.910 but it still didn't do anything for me because I was still eating the monosaccharide vegetables, 01:00:32.530 --> 01:00:39.810 still eating my celery juice, drinking my juice, and eating my tomatoes. 01:00:42.670 --> 01:00:49.650 So it was just another kind of, God, what would you call it? Just another restriction. 01:00:53.550 --> 01:01:00.130 And yeah, I just was just so much effort and energy, just like measuring things, you know, 01:01:00.190 --> 01:01:05.910 and calculating this, this, you had to like, you know, make sure that you avoid this. And 01:01:05.910 --> 01:01:11.950 then I used to make my own yogurt. And I was so proud of this. I would make a yogurt that really 01:01:11.950 --> 01:01:19.630 had no polysaccharides where you get the culture for it from one place only that had nothing in it, 01:01:19.770 --> 01:01:25.430 but the acidophilus, the two particular cultures that you put into a yogurt, but no other 01:01:25.990 --> 01:01:31.930 weird things added. And you make this special SCD yogurt that you ferment for 24 hours. 01:01:32.490 --> 01:01:39.130 And again, you know, it was just taking in the dairy, taking in the A, 01:01:40.550 --> 01:01:45.550 thinking that you're doing the best thing for your gut. And it didn't do anything, 01:01:45.630 --> 01:01:54.830 but I kept doing it. That didn't stop me from sticking to it. And yeah, so that's that one. 01:01:55.230 --> 01:01:58.850 I was watching a dumb show called The Good Place, someone in the House of Free will turn 01:01:58.850 --> 01:02:02.730 me on to that. Unfortunately, I'm now addicted. I'm going to have to watch them. We might do a 01:02:02.730 --> 01:02:08.550 House of Free will event. And so they, they pegged to the one, one person, he's supposed to be a monk, 01:02:08.650 --> 01:02:12.990 but he's really in disguise. He's not a monk at all. And so they gave him what he thought he 01:02:12.990 --> 01:02:20.450 wanted a special glass of, of yak milk. And so they put, you know, he goes to, to drink it. 01:02:20.470 --> 01:02:25.310 And then he goes, bleh, like his body just rejected it. It just came right back out. 01:02:25.310 --> 01:02:31.930 And it's like, yeah, yeah, that's a smart tongue there, you know. So yeah, I hear camel milk is a 01:02:31.930 --> 01:02:37.550 little better for us, which is weird. And I can't go there personally at all for Baron. 01:02:38.150 --> 01:02:43.470 I got it. I got the camel milk powder. And I got some frozen camel milk. I still have it. 01:02:43.990 --> 01:02:48.770 And really the only thing, you know, I could see it's serving a purpose for people who 01:02:48.770 --> 01:02:54.870 just really aren't ready to get over certain addictions. Yeah, I could restart and like 01:02:54.870 --> 01:03:01.190 all I have to do is get some decaf or some fake coffee and put some camel milk in it. And I'm like, 01:03:01.230 --> 01:03:05.990 oh, I'm back in the zone of some addiction. Because it's, it reminds me of that. Like, oh, 01:03:06.230 --> 01:03:13.550 now I'm really a writer because I'm drinking fake coffee with my camel milk. 01:03:14.890 --> 01:03:20.670 Well, isn't that interesting? Because fake foods actually do promote the addiction to the real 01:03:20.670 --> 01:03:25.610 thing. I noticed that. So I started making these beautiful cookies. They're amazing with 01:03:26.230 --> 01:03:31.290 urethritol at the time, which I know is bad and wrong now. And when I had them, I would have, 01:03:31.510 --> 01:03:36.870 I couldn't eat one or two or four. Oh my goodness, I just sit in gorge on them. I had the idea 01:03:36.870 --> 01:03:41.530 that they're healthy. Meanwhile, made with almond flour. So couldn't be higher in oxalates. 01:03:41.930 --> 01:03:47.050 And but, but it was like so hungry for me. Like I really mem, mem, mem, mem wanted this. 01:03:47.050 --> 01:03:51.130 And then I would feel sick. And then, and then I finally, I'm okay. I'm just not making cookies 01:03:51.130 --> 01:03:57.470 anymore. This is, this ain't working for me. Oh yeah. Yeah. When you get that, do you know about 01:03:57.470 --> 01:04:02.090 urethritol? Why it's bad and wrong? Say compared to a xylitol that your body actually makes? 01:04:02.350 --> 01:04:08.930 I think it has to do with some kind of an alcohol. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. That would 01:04:08.930 --> 01:04:13.110 be a good Garrett question. Yeah, they're all alcohols. Yeah. Yeah. I'll have to bring 01:04:13.110 --> 01:04:19.910 that up with either Garrett or Kelsey. By the way, that was such an awesome interview with Kelsey 01:04:19.910 --> 01:04:28.830 yesterday. I loved, I loved it. I hope you do it more. Yeah, I'd grab both of them every week, 01:04:28.910 --> 01:04:36.390 if I could. I did try to make my requests a little bit speckled over the year. Yeah, fake 01:04:36.390 --> 01:04:41.190 foods, Chrissy Taylor, exactly fake foods are the worst, especially fake meat. I've never 01:04:41.190 --> 01:04:46.130 put that in my mouth. Was that true? I've, I've not, certainly not recently, but I guess I did 01:04:46.130 --> 01:04:52.710 my tofu dogs and my vegetarian days and some, some of those burgers, but they, it wasn't 01:04:52.710 --> 01:04:58.730 sustainable because they just weren't good enough for one to make me want them. And, 01:04:59.050 --> 01:05:02.570 and then yeah, all that. Are we going to be talking about soy in here? 01:05:03.690 --> 01:05:11.310 Well, yeah. I mean, why not? I mean, it's, yeah. Yeah. I mean, we know it's estrogenic and also 01:05:11.890 --> 01:05:18.710 oxalates. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And God knows what else. I mean, it's just like, if you ever 01:05:18.710 --> 01:05:23.630 watched that episode with Dr. Chafee, he talks of plants are trying to kill you. And you just 01:05:23.630 --> 01:05:29.110 realized like, like just Brussels sprouts, I think they have like 300 different toxins in them, 01:05:29.110 --> 01:05:36.230 you know, like when you really grasp that. And, and that took me so long because I did all this 01:05:36.230 --> 01:05:43.390 research about the sun allergy and it said something like, Oh, well, celery has makes you 01:05:43.390 --> 01:05:48.950 photosensitive. And I was like, what? You know, I just still, I didn't want to believe it. 01:05:49.330 --> 01:05:53.590 I just, I said, Oh, this must be some obscure research by some crazy people, 01:05:53.590 --> 01:05:59.630 you know, because I just could not associate plants with actually having something in them that 01:05:59.630 --> 01:06:05.370 isn't beneficial. I know. I know. Yeah. People are, Oh, those plants, they want us to eat them. 01:06:05.490 --> 01:06:09.830 It's so romantic. And this, I think it's the other way around that we're here for the plants. 01:06:10.510 --> 01:06:15.910 Yeah. I always joke that the really the plant, what it wants is for you to die right underneath 01:06:15.910 --> 01:06:21.270 it so that your body will decompose and release all your wonderful nutrients to feed it. 01:06:22.830 --> 01:06:27.870 Exactly. Yep. Yeah, they have a plan. It was their idea to bury people, I'm sure. 01:06:30.630 --> 01:06:37.730 Burying these suckers. Yeah. Yeah. Back to soy for a minute. When I researched a little bit of 01:06:37.730 --> 01:06:44.870 the history of there, soy was only ever used as a crop rotator to put nitrogen into the soil, 01:06:45.030 --> 01:06:49.950 which beans do. We do that now we grow soy, but just to put nitrogen in the soil, 01:06:49.950 --> 01:06:55.770 we don't eat that stuff. And so if, if you are going to eat anything now, I didn't realize it's 01:06:55.770 --> 01:07:01.690 high in oxalates and yes, estrogenic. So don't give the toll food to your, to your boy children, 01:07:01.690 --> 01:07:08.330 for sure. Luckily, I didn't like it. I wasn't into it either. Yeah. And, and then, but to 01:07:08.330 --> 01:07:15.830 only eat it in the fermented versions like tempeh and miso, I believe. Yeah. But still high 01:07:15.830 --> 01:07:22.450 oxalates. So I haven't wanted it. And that might explain why. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of other 01:07:22.450 --> 01:07:29.250 stuff in there too. But, but yeah, just don't don't do it. Yeah, exactly. And just a quick, 01:07:29.250 --> 01:07:36.390 quick question about acne. So there's three main detox pathways, the liver being the first. 01:07:36.670 --> 01:07:41.750 If the liver can't handle the poison, it's going to send it into the kidneys. If the kidneys 01:07:41.750 --> 01:07:46.970 can't handle the load, it's going to send it out the skin. And so that's exactly what, 01:07:47.010 --> 01:07:53.490 what acne is. It's just poison that your body has, has become systemic through the colostasis, 01:07:53.490 --> 01:08:00.130 meaning bile got out of your digestive system into your blood. And then it's going to exit 01:08:00.130 --> 01:08:06.430 the skin because it needs to exit one way or another. And it's, it's always, you can tell 01:08:06.430 --> 01:08:15.390 by the color, you know, red and yellow. Yes. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, we always think sort of 01:08:15.390 --> 01:08:20.650 like white blood cells, but there's probably a good vitamin A component there as well. 01:08:21.070 --> 01:08:25.490 Yeah, I've noticed a lot of changes in my skin and some good ones recently just way less dry, 01:08:25.650 --> 01:08:31.730 way less die off going on. Excellent. Good. Yeah, because that was kind of sad if we 01:08:31.730 --> 01:08:35.050 thought we'd have to go in the future with this, like, you know, my skin would just like 01:08:35.050 --> 01:08:38.710 do this every morning. And I'm like, after the shower, raining over, you know, 01:08:38.750 --> 01:08:43.470 after a while, I was like, you know what, if that's how it's going to be, if I'm going to lose the 01:08:43.470 --> 01:08:51.370 visual, I'll still be fine because I feel so good. Exactly. Exactly. It was a, it was a big 01:08:51.370 --> 01:08:55.750 moment, but I'm really happy now with the, especially with the magnesium pit at late 01:08:55.750 --> 01:09:02.170 that fantastic Kelsey recommended. I'm feeling like the moisture is coming back and I'm like, 01:09:02.170 --> 01:09:11.870 oh my God, my skin's coming back. Yeah. Do you use that in addition to MSG or instead of? 01:09:12.610 --> 01:09:19.070 In addition. Well, I couldn't do the MSG until I started doing the magnesium pitalate, 01:09:19.270 --> 01:09:25.030 which basically does have gluten, you know, the, it's, it's pyroglutin made is the other name for 01:09:25.030 --> 01:09:31.450 it. Pyroglutin made, yes. Yeah, yeah. So, so I noticed that, oh, suddenly I can do the 01:09:32.150 --> 01:09:39.670 manasodium glutamate, much bigger portions, which I'm loving. Yeah. No, it's delicious. Okay. Yes, 01:09:39.730 --> 01:09:47.310 like I've got a whole great big bag of L pyroglutamic acid, which I hear is the same as that 01:09:48.110 --> 01:09:51.870 magnesium pitalate, although it's a completely different name going on there, but that's 01:09:51.870 --> 01:09:57.190 this week. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to try that. I'm going to try using it if I can take 01:09:57.190 --> 01:10:02.770 more MSG because I'm on a teeter-totter with the MSG that, you know, I can go one pinch for sure and 01:10:02.770 --> 01:10:08.730 not pay any price, but two pinches after about five days, my body's going like, woo-hoo, let's, 01:10:08.790 --> 01:10:15.510 let's release copper fast. Yeah, yeah, you got to let that copper release. I think that the 01:10:15.510 --> 01:10:22.590 copper is more intense than the, than the vitamin A actually, because of all the chocolate that I 01:10:22.590 --> 01:10:28.550 ate. Right, right. Luckily, it quit me. I couldn't continue with that chocolate. I was, you know, 01:10:29.330 --> 01:10:35.330 yeah, that was, that was good. My body just knew it was like back off. So yeah, I even had 01:10:35.330 --> 01:10:43.110 a one little thing on, on what day, some occasion it was, and just had half of a half of a thing 01:10:43.110 --> 01:10:49.370 with that had chocolate on top of it. Well, in seconds, I broke out my skin. It just went 01:10:49.370 --> 01:10:55.130 like from my mouth right to my skin and it's out of there. So it didn't last, luckily, was, you know, 01:10:55.190 --> 01:11:00.710 like a shingles breakout. Luckily, it didn't set off a whole mechanism. But, but yeah, 01:11:00.770 --> 01:11:10.490 it was a very clear sign, like this is poison. That magnesium pitalate, it's P-I-D-O-L-A-T-E. 01:11:10.490 --> 01:11:20.610 Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And it's from Neutropics. Yeah, Neutropic, N-O-O-T-R-O-P-I-C-S. 01:11:20.970 --> 01:11:24.410 Okay. If you feel like it drop it in the, in the chat and they could, 01:11:24.790 --> 01:11:30.750 I don't know how to do that best. Okay, no problem. No problem. So I also feel like 01:11:31.190 --> 01:11:35.710 recommending a supplement. It's not good just to take a recommendation and run with it. 01:11:35.710 --> 01:11:40.410 You really, you need to learn and understand your own, your own body with it too. 01:11:41.030 --> 01:11:45.870 So I know that was my bad habit. I hear something on the grapevine. I run and I get it and I take 01:11:45.870 --> 01:11:52.130 a lot of it just without any knowledge at all. Yeah. And this is, this is after I've done all 01:11:52.130 --> 01:11:58.410 kinds of different magnesiums that didn't quite, the chlorides didn't work as well for me. Whereas 01:11:58.410 --> 01:12:05.970 this one, it's doing a really great job for me, but I searched and tried. I didn't just go like, 01:12:06.030 --> 01:12:11.190 Oh, I'll do this. You know, and I had my blood tested and my hair tested. So I, you know, 01:12:11.210 --> 01:12:18.910 so I'm not just like shooting in the dark. Exactly. I definitely need to, to restore my 01:12:18.910 --> 01:12:24.590 magnesium supply because I've been using up so much of it because of, you know, trying to 01:12:24.590 --> 01:12:33.050 my body's working. There you go. There you go. All right. So we are now on the low glycemic index 01:12:33.050 --> 01:12:39.810 diet. That's just a pretty simple one. I mean, it's all about the glycemic index. I mean, 01:12:39.850 --> 01:12:44.550 if I were to follow that now, I wouldn't be eating two or three bananas in a row, 01:12:44.650 --> 01:12:50.210 which I do sometimes when I need them. I find that a lot of these diets that are so like, 01:12:50.210 --> 01:12:55.690 here's the precise number. Here's the, you know, all of, I'm finding that they're moot, you know, 01:12:55.850 --> 01:13:01.250 they don't, it's, it's different when you're not taking in a whole bunch of poisons. You know, 01:13:01.350 --> 01:13:08.670 it's a completely different universe. You know, you can't go by the same, by the same rules of 01:13:08.670 --> 01:13:15.670 like food combining, let's say, you know, I don't need any food combining when I'm not eating 01:13:15.670 --> 01:13:20.630 poisons. I think it's more had to do more with, you know, combining the poisons. 01:13:22.890 --> 01:13:28.990 I don't know what I mean, like all these things that are so popular and the yin and the yang of 01:13:28.990 --> 01:13:36.710 this, you know, it's, it's, it's so, so it's a different universe. Like things that I, that I 01:13:36.710 --> 01:13:42.730 needed before, I don't need anymore because I was just trying to kind of suppress some reaction 01:13:42.730 --> 01:13:49.590 to something when I kept adding the poison. So, and that, that's, I think is what makes 01:13:50.130 --> 01:13:56.290 anybody qualified to even just talk about things. You just try it as the, you know, you just have, 01:13:56.410 --> 01:14:03.050 you just try something. So I certainly, I get an A for trying many things. And the same thing, 01:14:03.130 --> 01:14:08.990 thank God I didn't shut down like a lot of people do, like a lot of people that come to a point 01:14:08.990 --> 01:14:14.330 where they're just like, no, I've already tried, I've tried everything. I've tried everything. I 01:14:14.330 --> 01:14:21.410 don't want to do anything else. I'm just so grateful that even with all the stuff that I went through 01:14:21.410 --> 01:14:27.130 and all the negative things that have happened to me from the things that I tried, that I still 01:14:27.950 --> 01:14:34.090 continued to be open and in search. And I tried this. So, and that's the only reason 01:14:34.090 --> 01:14:40.050 I'm even talking about it publicly, you know, because I see what it's doing to me. 01:14:40.730 --> 01:14:47.830 Yeah. Yeah. Around me. I have, I have my very close friend from college. She's doing the same 01:14:47.830 --> 01:14:53.210 thing, same time as I am. And I have two other friends. So we're watching each other, you know, 01:14:53.890 --> 01:15:00.350 for sure. Yeah, that might be the, the lover in you, which I, I often see. And it's that 01:15:00.350 --> 01:15:06.410 the truth or bust. We're not going, we're not going to compromise and stop because I have 01:15:06.410 --> 01:15:14.030 the trying fatigue going on. And, you know, yeah, like that's, that's, I avoided trying 01:15:14.590 --> 01:15:21.310 burnout by not trying everything. And, and like, you know, I would more block, oh, new trend. 01:15:21.630 --> 01:15:27.710 Don't, don't look at it. So don't consider it. That's my denial strategy. And yeah, 01:15:27.710 --> 01:15:32.430 it's such an extremely good point. I want to emphasize it is different when you're not 01:15:33.010 --> 01:15:38.750 intoxing on a regular basis. And that's, that's my only claim to fame. I'm not some people 01:15:38.750 --> 01:15:44.570 criticized Garrett that he's shilling the supplements. I'm not on the supplements. 01:15:44.970 --> 01:15:51.130 Yeah. Can we hit on that? Because to me, that's another thing that I think makes this very 01:15:51.130 --> 01:15:56.830 different is that you really, and the only things that have had a really strong effect on me, 01:15:56.830 --> 01:16:01.990 were things where I did not have to take any supplements. And this is definitely, 01:16:02.910 --> 01:16:09.390 it's just a food, just eliminating the poisons. Yeah, that's a lot of magic right there. And I 01:16:09.390 --> 01:16:15.410 actually wish I could take, I can see the signs. My body would thrive if I could have more zinc. 01:16:15.690 --> 01:16:21.190 But even when I tried to, I removed the fibers from my zinc sources, meaning meat 01:16:21.190 --> 01:16:27.170 for a few days, just for one of the meals. And I started to detox too fast. I'm literally getting 01:16:27.170 --> 01:16:33.290 too much zinc. So I was like, okay, bring it back. And for me now, I want to combine 01:16:33.990 --> 01:16:40.230 my fiber with my zinc sources, which is sort of backwards for someone else that might benefit 01:16:40.230 --> 01:16:48.630 from separating them for a time. So yeah, yeah, that's a thing. And let's see. 01:16:50.390 --> 01:16:56.930 Yeah, the food combining, I just, I rejected that myself. That was something, although you can see, 01:16:57.070 --> 01:17:04.310 like if you down a smoothie on top of a burger, and you don't feel good, and there's a whole 01:17:04.310 --> 01:17:09.730 bunch of sugar, especially the dessert after meal. When I went to India, we all would eat dessert 01:17:09.730 --> 01:17:16.210 first, knowing that it's going to just like be fuel and burn through. And then the heavier food won't, 01:17:16.250 --> 01:17:21.270 won't, the idea was that it would ferment because of the sugar. Is that, is that, is that true? Or 01:17:22.030 --> 01:17:27.250 just, I mean, depends what are you eating? What kind of sugars, you know, 01:17:27.730 --> 01:17:33.410 this is a sugar sugar, like, yeah, if it's a sugar sugar, well, yeah, you know, it probably 01:17:33.410 --> 01:17:43.110 will ferment, but anything can ferment. We have fermentative processes inside of us on purpose, 01:17:43.230 --> 01:17:51.730 right? Yeah, yeah. And, you know, drinking a smoothie that's not eating, you know, 01:17:53.770 --> 01:18:02.210 you're breaking down all these vegetables and fruits and or whatever, you know, that's not 01:18:02.210 --> 01:18:06.990 really, we're not, we're meant to eat the fruit, you know, the blender is our teeth. 01:18:08.090 --> 01:18:13.870 Exactly. I know, and our, and our jaws are getting very weak because we're not chewing that much, 01:18:13.870 --> 01:18:19.130 although I think mine's really strong from years of grinding my teeth. So now I need a break. 01:18:19.510 --> 01:18:23.830 Thank God, the low, the low copper and the detox that I've done this last year, 01:18:23.830 --> 01:18:30.990 I do not ever grind my teeth anymore. I don't have that constant stress and tension in 01:18:30.990 --> 01:18:36.490 my jaw that I used to have. It's miraculous, literally. That's awesome. I know, I know it was 01:18:36.490 --> 01:18:43.590 really torturous to try to like bite the teeth out of my own mouth when I'm sleeping every night, 01:18:43.830 --> 01:18:50.650 like that was just like, oh, poor thing. So all right, on to the antiparasite diet. We said 01:18:50.650 --> 01:18:56.130 a little bit about this last time, but it certainly bears repeating herbs, antimicrobials, 01:18:56.270 --> 01:19:00.470 and fear-based protocols. What would you like to share about that? Is there anything good 01:19:00.470 --> 01:19:08.970 in it? Well, not the way that it's presented. Yeah. You know, there's, there's something to be said 01:19:08.970 --> 01:19:15.390 about understanding. That was the one good thing that I, that I grasped from the primal 01:19:15.390 --> 01:19:21.930 raw diet, the Arjunis Wanda Planets diet, that I still feel there's a lot of truth to that, 01:19:21.930 --> 01:19:29.890 which is based on the terrain theory, meaning that, you know, if you have dead tissue in you, 01:19:30.910 --> 01:19:36.610 parasites will be drawn to it and will multiply to try to get rid of it. Like I started to understand 01:19:36.610 --> 01:19:43.110 the role of bacteria and parasites and funguses, not as some horrible enemy that we have to get 01:19:43.110 --> 01:19:50.290 rid of, but is just something that is already in our system. And for when we do die, 01:19:50.290 --> 01:19:57.350 when we are all dead tissue, hopefully it will eat the rest of it and basically kind of decompose us, 01:19:57.430 --> 01:20:02.990 right? That that's the job. But if you have a lot of dead tissue in you while you're still living, 01:20:04.210 --> 01:20:08.270 then more of them are going to come and clean up. So it's just like, you know, 01:20:08.290 --> 01:20:14.230 you don't blame the crow for killing the deer on the road just because the crow is eating it. 01:20:15.030 --> 01:20:23.250 The deer was dead, that's why the crow came. So that part I think is interesting, but the way that 01:20:23.250 --> 01:20:29.250 it's presented by most people and the way it was presented to me, horrifying, you know, 01:20:29.350 --> 01:20:32.950 when they will show you the enlarged pictures of like, this is what it looks like, you know, 01:20:32.970 --> 01:20:40.090 and this is attached to you. And it will, I mean, it's just, again, it's nothing but 01:20:40.090 --> 01:20:47.450 terror of like being, you know, invaded from the inside. And then it scared the 01:20:48.070 --> 01:20:54.790 but Jesus out of me when when I was, you know, exposed to all of that. So I would do all like the 01:20:54.790 --> 01:21:02.310 walnut. What was it, the shells and the garlic and the tumor, you know, all these things, 01:21:02.470 --> 01:21:08.950 turmeric, that was supposed to kill the parasites. Basically, I was eating a lot of the spices 01:21:08.950 --> 01:21:16.390 that are naturally put into all Indian foods, which I guess, you know, it played an important 01:21:16.390 --> 01:21:23.030 function there, because there was no refrigeration, I imagine at, you know, at some point. So people 01:21:23.030 --> 01:21:32.050 had to come up with ways to kill the parasites. I know there couldn't be anything more fear 01:21:32.050 --> 01:21:37.870 porny on that side. And it was another one, I'll congratulate myself that I just went like, no, 01:21:38.450 --> 01:21:43.430 no, it's a no. And it was partly the cognitive dissonance of literally not wanting to 01:21:44.010 --> 01:21:50.350 acknowledge that I have an enemy within and there, you know, laying eggs and squirming and all 01:21:50.350 --> 01:21:55.730 this kind of stuff. I just, I just like, when it, you know, it was a no. And so I was very 01:21:55.730 --> 01:22:00.650 happy with myself when I, when discovering in this last year that the parasite craze is a 01:22:00.650 --> 01:22:09.070 Rockefeller invention. And it goes, yeah, it goes to this exact day, it still has the same 01:22:09.070 --> 01:22:14.850 momentum as it ever did, selling all of those so called remedies that are, yes, they do kill 01:22:14.850 --> 01:22:22.850 parasites. They are a like anti life, right? They are also killing you. So these substances 01:22:22.850 --> 01:22:30.230 are dangerous to the parasites and equally so to you. One thing that was really big 01:22:30.870 --> 01:22:36.650 wake up for me too that this might have included, but just that the metals content in your body 01:22:36.650 --> 01:22:42.030 is very proportionate to the amount of parasites that you'll have. So as long as there's a big 01:22:42.030 --> 01:22:47.690 amount of metals to clean up, the parasites are your friend, because otherwise they you 01:22:47.690 --> 01:22:52.290 probably be dead. Yeah, that's that's aluminum, I think is what Candida favors. 01:22:52.930 --> 01:23:00.670 Okay. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, so when you realize like, oh, this is really trying to, you know, 01:23:00.810 --> 01:23:06.670 get some stuff out of me and is helping me clean it up, consume it just like, you know, 01:23:06.750 --> 01:23:10.770 you have all these incredible microbes that you can put into a major oil spill, 01:23:11.150 --> 01:23:16.610 and it will eat it, you know, this is, I hear here in Asheville, North Carolina, 01:23:17.290 --> 01:23:23.530 you know, there's secret missions young people have found that there's certain microbes that will 01:23:23.530 --> 01:23:30.530 clean up. Apparently there's all kinds of toxins after the hurricane and radioactivity, and they're 01:23:30.530 --> 01:23:36.430 finding they're, they're having to sneak it in because trying to create like a kind of a ground 01:23:36.430 --> 01:23:42.690 level where each neighbor will do their land. But, but the, you know, the government is, 01:23:42.690 --> 01:23:48.950 is not wanting to do that kind of a cleanup, but they can really clean up stuff. So, 01:23:50.250 --> 01:23:55.850 internally and externally in the environment outside and in our inner environment. But if you 01:23:55.850 --> 01:24:01.850 don't, if you don't keep giving them stuff, then they leave on their own. Yeah, I was 01:24:01.850 --> 01:24:06.250 joked that it's like, you know, there's a family of these, these parasites living 01:24:06.250 --> 01:24:12.530 wherever in your body, and the food stops coming in. It's kind of like, well, you know, 01:24:12.590 --> 01:24:19.850 I think we should move, honey. Exactly. It will leak around here. Yeah. But, but, but here's the 01:24:19.850 --> 01:24:24.090 thing that the thing about the parasites that always drove me nuts is that it was about 01:24:24.090 --> 01:24:29.770 attack them, you know, and it's this whole, and if you come into anything and you attack it, 01:24:29.870 --> 01:24:34.930 it starts to really activate, you know, and can go crazy and you can cause yourself 01:24:34.930 --> 01:24:42.090 all kinds of very unpleasant symptoms. Whereas if you just stop feeding them, they naturally kind 01:24:42.090 --> 01:24:48.470 of feel like, oh, let's go on a vacation to some other place, you know, and do better. Yeah. Yeah, 01:24:48.490 --> 01:24:55.470 we can do better than this. This whole, this place is a bore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't feed the 01:24:55.470 --> 01:25:01.250 churros. Exactly. Like send the kids to school and maybe we'll move too. Yeah. Yeah. And 01:25:01.250 --> 01:25:07.570 Ivermectin being a really key one that amazingly it became also the cure for the big C suddenly, 01:25:07.810 --> 01:25:13.570 but yeah, this is very, very widely used even people that I'll say, you know, really have 01:25:13.570 --> 01:25:18.050 a good knowledge and a good brain, and they would never put it in their own body, 01:25:18.050 --> 01:25:24.150 but they do put it in their animals, you know, and I have a great deal of respect for, 01:25:24.250 --> 01:25:30.350 for my friends who do that. But, but it's, you know, you need to know it's a poison to 01:25:30.350 --> 01:25:35.570 us. It is a poison to them and you get short term good effects. The reason that you're going to 01:25:35.570 --> 01:25:41.430 have to keep on treating them over time all the time and, and again into the future, 01:25:41.490 --> 01:25:46.230 because all you're doing is killing the cure to the problem. Now I don't, I'm no expert in, 01:25:46.230 --> 01:25:51.530 in livestock or anything like that. So I don't know how you'd get them to detox. But yeah, 01:25:51.570 --> 01:25:58.070 the pleomorphism, Jackie, is a really good principle to have that, that organisms 01:25:58.070 --> 01:26:04.730 actually change based on their environment and you can, you can observe that and yeah, 01:26:04.930 --> 01:26:12.830 yeah, your body has incredible intelligence in its own micro level. I thought I had proof 01:26:12.830 --> 01:26:17.750 of pleomorphism when I, by accident, I left some chicken because I use my outside as a freezer 01:26:17.750 --> 01:26:23.190 sometimes in the winter and I forgot that this thing of chicken was out there. So I come in 01:26:23.190 --> 01:26:30.410 the spring and it was covered in, in maggots. So it was just like, wow, like this. And then I'm, 01:26:30.410 --> 01:26:35.270 I'm, I'm thinking like, but did they crawl over the balcony or where did they come from? 01:26:35.610 --> 01:26:41.150 Some people say, well, they, they're, they're passed by flies. But frankly, it felt like it came 01:26:41.150 --> 01:26:46.730 from within because this was like a sealed container. Nothing could get in there. 01:26:47.290 --> 01:26:52.770 Yeah, yeah, that's actually that's, that's called, that's what the primal diet, they do this thing 01:26:52.770 --> 01:26:57.950 called high meat, where they take a piece of meat and they put it in a jar with a little bit of air 01:26:57.950 --> 01:27:02.530 maybe coming in, but you leave it there for a couple of months and then you eat this. 01:27:04.690 --> 01:27:08.870 I have, I've never done that. No, I drew the line at that. But 01:27:10.450 --> 01:27:13.270 yeah, so you can basically transform a simple 01:27:14.410 --> 01:27:20.030 protein, I forget what they call it in pleomorphism, you know, it's the Beauchamp versus pastor, 01:27:20.250 --> 01:27:28.130 great, great discussion. And it can slowly transform into a fungus, into a bacteria, 01:27:28.210 --> 01:27:34.290 and then into a parasite. And then it can also go the other way, depending on the, on the 01:27:34.290 --> 01:27:39.910 terrain, you know, I, I love that theory. And I do say theory because it is a theory, but 01:27:40.450 --> 01:27:47.210 so is germ theory. And just, I just want people to acknowledge that they're both theories. 01:27:47.710 --> 01:27:52.130 Right, right, right, exactly. And the truth is probably not in either extreme. 01:27:52.830 --> 01:28:00.010 And neither is it a medium. But we won't go there right now. Oh, right. So we are moving 01:28:00.010 --> 01:28:05.850 right along here and we're on the superfoods. Food's diet. Thank you, David Wolf. 01:28:07.130 --> 01:28:13.630 Yeah. Was he the creator of that whole thing? He was like, he was a huge part of it. He was 01:28:13.630 --> 01:28:19.590 all about the superfoods. Oh my God. And he was part of it, but I didn't know he was like the 01:28:19.590 --> 01:28:26.230 ringmaster there. Well, he started the whole coconut craze. And then he went to the raw 01:28:26.230 --> 01:28:33.450 chocolate thing. And then into all the Chinese mushrooms. Oh my God. And then the maca, 01:28:33.450 --> 01:28:39.350 the mesquite, and all the exotic fruits from South America turned into powders. Crazy. 01:28:40.130 --> 01:28:45.470 The more wild the thing is, the higher the oxalates and the higher the poisons. So you're just like 01:28:45.470 --> 01:28:54.450 Say that again, Dagmar. Well, the more wild a fruit or a plant is, the more it will have 01:28:54.450 --> 01:29:00.490 poisons and the more it will have oxalates because the wilder survive better. That's why 01:29:00.490 --> 01:29:05.530 they survive because they have more poisons in them. They were the better, they were like the 01:29:05.530 --> 01:29:14.350 big winners, you know, of the plant world. And this is where all that then also all the 01:29:14.350 --> 01:29:19.890 plants from the ocean, from the chlorella to the spirulina to I forget what else. 01:29:21.170 --> 01:29:28.050 And then all the jungle peanuts. Oh my God. People making so much money or selling truly 01:29:28.050 --> 01:29:36.830 raw cashews. The list goes on and on and maca another stimulant that supposedly is really 01:29:36.830 --> 01:29:44.550 good for your libido. It's just it's just an insane and chlorophyll. You did the chlorophyll 01:29:44.550 --> 01:29:50.910 to Beth, right? And there's the chlorophyll, which is like basically the the the iron of the 01:29:50.910 --> 01:29:57.510 this is like, you know, strengthen your blood with chlorophyll. Like last time I looked in 01:29:57.510 --> 01:30:03.630 the mirror, I was not a plant. There's the yeah, the big story about chlorophyll was that it was 01:30:03.630 --> 01:30:08.990 just one molecule away from blood. Yeah, you're feeding your blood, but it turns out to it's 01:30:08.990 --> 01:30:16.230 so jacked in copper. When I had the worst insomnia, I would take chlorophyll before bed 01:30:16.230 --> 01:30:23.850 every night. Well, no wonder I was. Yep. Yeah, I didn't know until this day, I finally 01:30:23.850 --> 01:30:30.090 figured out that yes, it's stimulating. So that you know, I backed off on that. But but yeah, 01:30:30.110 --> 01:30:37.430 the ocean plants, the the chlorellus spirulina, all the seaweed, those are ocean plants. 01:30:37.950 --> 01:30:44.410 Yeah, very, very high in A and oxalates. And iodine, which you don't necessarily want. 01:30:44.650 --> 01:30:50.690 And then all the slew of Chinese mushrooms. And I use them all the time. I could I would 01:30:50.690 --> 01:30:59.710 make like the best tasting fake coffee with just Dwanwood Reishi and Chaga, and Hushi Wu, and all 01:30:59.710 --> 01:31:08.670 these other I mean, yeah, it's Chaga, for example, create even the Chinese, like when you go to 01:31:08.670 --> 01:31:14.810 round tea gardens store in LA, you know, the number one distributor of all these Chinese herbs. 01:31:15.370 --> 01:31:23.050 And you ask them like about Chaga, and you say, Well, you know, how's the oxalate level on that? 01:31:23.130 --> 01:31:28.930 They're like, Oh, no, you can't scratch crazy high. Chaga is so high oxalate that even the 01:31:28.930 --> 01:31:34.370 Chinese doctors know about it. And people who have any even remotely close to any kind of 01:31:34.370 --> 01:31:40.050 kidney issues, you know, they, they, they can't do Chaga. But I was thinking, Oh, 01:31:40.050 --> 01:31:46.630 Chaga came from, you know, the Russia from, you know, the backwoods of Russia. 01:31:48.390 --> 01:31:56.530 It must be good. It's Slavic Kosomai. You know, and so I was like, Oh, my God, 01:31:56.570 --> 01:32:01.270 I would even get the whole mushroom, and then I would grind it down and, and I would put it 01:32:01.270 --> 01:32:08.370 into chocolate. Oh my God. And I would the goji berries, the longan berries, I would put all 01:32:08.370 --> 01:32:13.610 that into my chocolate along with the almond butter, the cashew butter, the walnut butter. 01:32:15.610 --> 01:32:22.390 And they were, they were definitely good. What else did I oh, and that's the, the, the 01:32:22.390 --> 01:32:27.510 superfoods of course, then there's the cod liver oil and the fermented cod liver oil. 01:32:28.150 --> 01:32:34.370 You know how much that stuff costs? Oh my God. I did it for a while, but it was just so 01:32:34.370 --> 01:32:39.370 disgusting that my instincts went like, I can't do this. And then we got the whole collagen and 01:32:39.370 --> 01:32:46.930 gelatin craze. And then we got the, you know, probiotics, just like, you know, these, these 01:32:46.930 --> 01:32:53.030 bottles of probiotics would have like, you know, 30 different probiotics in them. And then they 01:32:53.030 --> 01:32:59.370 would say, Oh, and here's the prebiotics. It's all the same. Every food you eat is a prebiotic. 01:33:00.470 --> 01:33:04.550 You know, but they found a way, Oh, this is a really good prebiotic. 01:33:04.870 --> 01:33:11.930 All that means is, is, it's like pre, is it pre, well, it's not fiber yet, 01:33:11.930 --> 01:33:16.650 because say sun fiber is like a prebiotic or something different. 01:33:17.670 --> 01:33:22.930 Well, it's just food for the bacteria. Right. Right. There you go. There you go. 01:33:23.210 --> 01:33:26.990 Should we take a quick pass at Ashwagandha? And then I'm going to respond to some of those 01:33:26.990 --> 01:33:32.710 foods as well. Ashwagandha. Wow. Also high in A and high in oxalates. 01:33:32.990 --> 01:33:38.030 Okay. Considered an adaptogen, right? So that's one of its claims to fame, 01:33:38.590 --> 01:33:41.170 but high in oxalates. And what was the other one? 01:33:42.130 --> 01:33:45.210 An A and vitamin A. There you go. There you go. Yeah. 01:33:45.410 --> 01:33:53.810 Basically, yeah, I think it goes back to the asparagus family. But yeah. Yeah. Ashwagandha 01:33:53.810 --> 01:33:59.190 and everybody's doing it for their hormones, you know, and the Ayurvedic people. 01:33:59.470 --> 01:34:04.350 And I love these people. They're great. And I love the whole, the way it's set up, you know, 01:34:04.410 --> 01:34:08.710 just like the blood type died. And I'm sure some Ayurvedic person will shoot me for this, but 01:34:09.570 --> 01:34:14.390 but, you know, it's so beautifully laid out. And, and the whole premise is that, yes, 01:34:14.530 --> 01:34:18.310 it's something that's been around for thousands of years. So it's got to be good. 01:34:18.690 --> 01:34:22.370 But we're not the same people we were a thousand years ago. 01:34:22.370 --> 01:34:28.370 And maybe this was, you know, I think they had different kind of like practices for the 01:34:28.370 --> 01:34:34.630 emperors and different practices for the poor people. So you don't know which is which and 01:34:34.630 --> 01:34:40.250 what its, its purpose is, you know, it's not only in the modern era that food has been used 01:34:40.250 --> 01:34:47.370 to subdue people or to make them be functional, but not so functional that they're live long, 01:34:47.370 --> 01:34:52.710 but functional enough that they can be our slaves and do, you know, keep the country going. 01:34:54.030 --> 01:35:01.030 So. Exactly. Yeah, good one. I definitely took my fair share of Ashwagandha because I was in India 01:35:01.030 --> 01:35:04.670 and that seemed like the thing to do because it was this adaptogen. 01:35:07.210 --> 01:35:12.270 Adaptogens. It just sounds so good, you know, I know, I know exactly. Yes, see, there was 01:35:12.270 --> 01:35:16.650 anything that, there were so many, you get the rashes and the shiitakes and all of the, 01:35:16.650 --> 01:35:21.990 the culinary. So yeah, really, again, high in copper, all the mushrooms are high in copper. 01:35:23.150 --> 01:35:26.730 So yeah, I stopped eating those entirely. Anything else about mushrooms that you know? 01:35:28.330 --> 01:35:32.890 I mean, wow, I mean, you know, we all know that pretty much if you're in the woods, 01:35:32.970 --> 01:35:36.730 don't eat the mushroom, unless you absolutely know that it's not going to kill you. 01:35:36.730 --> 01:35:44.110 Mm hmm. I don't think they're meant for humans to eat. I think they're meant to clean the environment. 01:35:44.570 --> 01:35:51.270 Right. Because they can. And what else was in there than there was? 01:35:52.270 --> 01:35:56.510 Yeah, I just wanted to emphasize the cod liver oil. So you don't want to eat liver and you 01:35:56.510 --> 01:36:04.510 don't want to eat the oil that's made from which is like, yeah, living filter of the water 01:36:04.510 --> 01:36:10.890 to start out with. The liver is the filter of the filter. And then you make an oil, 01:36:11.170 --> 01:36:17.170 which gives it a medium to store the poison in. The oil is like you're squeezing out the worst of 01:36:17.170 --> 01:36:24.730 the liver. And then, and then, and then you drink it. Right. So I never went down that path. 01:36:24.850 --> 01:36:30.170 I did eat my weight in goji berries. They were considered magical food. And now I'm thinking 01:36:30.170 --> 01:36:34.090 about the person who turned me on to all these foods and boy, they were jacked up. 01:36:34.470 --> 01:36:43.110 They are major nightshade. Goji berries are major nightshade, very high in oxalates and A. 01:36:43.710 --> 01:36:47.410 I mean, you know, just look at their color, anything that's strong colored like, 01:36:47.550 --> 01:36:52.670 like that kind of red and God knows what else, probably all kinds of phenols. 01:36:53.230 --> 01:37:01.630 Um, same thing also with the, the super food beat craze, you know, the beat powders. I mean, 01:37:01.790 --> 01:37:06.410 it's just great marketing, you know, nitric oxide, you're going to build your nitric 01:37:06.410 --> 01:37:10.970 oxide with, with, with this, this beat powder because you need it because that will calm 01:37:10.970 --> 01:37:18.630 you down. Well, just gently breathing in and out with your nose, not your mouth. 01:37:18.630 --> 01:37:27.710 You are making your own nitric oxide in your nasal cavity. So you don't need to jack yourself up on 01:37:27.710 --> 01:37:36.950 crazy high oxalates from the, the, the beat and A. So it's, wow. And I used to like, 01:37:37.050 --> 01:37:41.270 I would make my, I put a little piece of beat into everything that I would blend. 01:37:43.430 --> 01:37:49.630 There you go. I was lucky. I didn't really like beats that much. So I would have just a little 01:37:49.630 --> 01:37:55.330 bit of a con, like a condiment now and again, I come home from the farm and I'd have one beat 01:37:55.330 --> 01:37:59.910 and people look at me like, what's wrong with you? And yeah, I didn't like carrot 01:37:59.910 --> 01:38:04.930 either. I would have about one a year, same kind of effect just for an orange thing on the plate. 01:38:05.550 --> 01:38:11.510 And yeah, just didn't like that. So all right, well, that's a lot of good information there. 01:38:11.590 --> 01:38:17.430 Sorry, David Avocado Wolf, but yeah. And he's a, you know, he's an okay guy, you know, he's a, 01:38:17.590 --> 01:38:22.670 it's like, like I said in the beginning, nobody ever, we never perceive ourselves as 01:38:22.670 --> 01:38:29.610 the villain in our own story. Right. We're trying to do something good. We're trying to, 01:38:29.610 --> 01:38:37.050 you know, like that's all I ever want is to, to share, you know, what my intentions are very good. 01:38:37.710 --> 01:38:44.630 Yeah. Unless you're a psychopath, you can't harm knowingly. You won't be able to do that, 01:38:44.710 --> 01:38:51.690 especially not for a long time, but it's going to hard to say where it goes off the rails. 01:38:52.250 --> 01:38:56.950 And where money is concerned, that can be quite a pain killer. So if you're suffering 01:38:56.950 --> 01:39:03.470 on the inside due to some moral conflict, conflict of some kind, the money might 01:39:04.230 --> 01:39:11.130 dull the pain, let's say. And, and, and, you know, forgive me. The guy sells ivermectin. 01:39:11.970 --> 01:39:19.250 No. Yes. And to the tune of, I mean, I heard 10 million dollars. 01:39:23.270 --> 01:39:26.590 Well, I know he's going to come after me. I said that on X one day, 01:39:26.590 --> 01:39:32.250 and then he suddenly followed me and I'm like, Oh, David on my track here. But like, 01:39:32.430 --> 01:39:36.950 how can you justify that? Promoting everything natural, natural, natural. But all of a sudden, 01:39:37.110 --> 01:39:42.450 oh, this drug is the bomb. But here's the catch, though. All that natural, natural, 01:39:42.450 --> 01:39:47.490 natural is really no different than ivermectin. I mean, that's the whole point of these super 01:39:47.490 --> 01:39:54.550 foods, you know, or just eating tons of vegetables, you know, yeah, they're natural. 01:39:54.550 --> 01:40:02.670 But as we know, like tobacco is a pesticide. Coffee is a pesticide. It's natural, right? 01:40:03.670 --> 01:40:10.610 So there's that other layer. So you really can't blame that on anyone because it's so deeply ingrained, 01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:18.370 you know, in us. It's so a part of our life, you know, the whole bringing tea from China, tea, 01:40:18.370 --> 01:40:27.110 another crazy high oxalate, tannins and a, I think tea is high in a too, right? I'm pretty sure. 01:40:27.770 --> 01:40:33.290 Yeah, probably would depend on which one. I know Ruobos very high because it's like that bright red 01:40:34.250 --> 01:40:43.610 regular tea, you know, chai tea, black tea, green tea, white tea, all of them are high in oxalates 01:40:43.610 --> 01:40:51.450 and caffeine, right? Which is a pesticide, right? So when you I mean, it's it's almost like sacrilege 01:40:51.450 --> 01:40:58.650 to say what our tea ceremony or our coffee break or our, you know, afternoon crumpets and tea, 01:40:58.710 --> 01:41:03.690 are you saying that that's not good? No, it's a beautiful we have so many beautiful rituals 01:41:03.690 --> 01:41:09.550 that come from this, you know, that are part of our that it's passed on. So it's really hard to 01:41:09.550 --> 01:41:15.130 how do you how do you address that, you know, with most normal people would be like, 01:41:15.670 --> 01:41:20.870 what kind of a, you know, what do you call the person who goes against religion and then they 01:41:20.870 --> 01:41:29.290 burn them heretic like being a heretic? Yep, exactly. So let's get to know. Yeah, 01:41:29.310 --> 01:41:34.570 you were saying also just about how they use the foods and the diets and everything and we 01:41:34.570 --> 01:41:38.570 think about our history. Oh, well, the grandpa did it or the great grandpa did it and that 01:41:38.570 --> 01:41:47.270 must be good. And then so the beer was specifically designed to take the strong men out. They would 01:41:47.270 --> 01:41:53.990 they apparently it was in the monasteries and the male monks were were using the beer 01:41:53.990 --> 01:42:00.630 to take their testosterone out because it's intensely estrogenic. Oh, make them soft and 01:42:00.630 --> 01:42:07.110 squishy and have no aggression whatsoever, our ability to defend themselves. And then, 01:42:07.110 --> 01:42:14.370 you know, what it it beer is considered a man's drink. Wow. Isn't that amazing, though? I love 01:42:14.370 --> 01:42:19.870 your words, soft and squishy. Yeah, it's a man's drink makes you soft and squishy. 01:42:21.710 --> 01:42:29.250 Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, back to just a comment in about psilocybin here. The very reason that 01:42:29.250 --> 01:42:36.590 you get high on psilocybin is because your liver has been poisoned. That's exact reason 01:42:36.590 --> 01:42:41.990 I had a boyfriend that was smart enough to know that the biochemistry of the psychedelics, 01:42:42.050 --> 01:42:47.370 that's how they work. They poison you. And so then you have to contend with that. And personally, 01:42:47.870 --> 01:42:53.510 to me, the the juice of that is not worth the squeeze anymore. There was there was a time where 01:42:53.510 --> 01:42:59.110 I felt like it was but I don't want to be damaged by my spiritual inner work and or never 01:42:59.110 --> 01:43:06.290 mind entertainment. That's something so yeah, I used to throw up your milk assembly. I'm sorry 01:43:06.290 --> 01:43:12.070 to hear that Jackie. It sucks. And golden milk. I never I never went for it. I heard about it. 01:43:12.090 --> 01:43:16.530 Everybody thought it was so great. I never I would buy turmeric. I wouldn't use it. 01:43:16.590 --> 01:43:23.810 They make an LA they sell at the farmers market. They sell a golden kefir where they make 01:43:23.810 --> 01:43:31.010 a kefir with turmeric in it. So gross. Yeah, exactly. All I can't believe the how that must taste. 01:43:31.550 --> 01:43:37.250 So no, I don't know why I just did not go for the turmeric. I ended up buying a storing the 01:43:37.250 --> 01:43:44.790 turmeric for the apocalypse famine. And yes, now in the graveyard of all my foods and supplements, 01:43:45.030 --> 01:43:50.390 I don't eat anymore. And you find it hard to believe. Well, that's that's the interesting 01:43:50.390 --> 01:43:57.610 part. You might not take it. He just sells it. Right. He might not take it. And it's part of this 01:43:57.610 --> 01:44:02.130 is a little bit of a point I was going to make that because all of those, you know, coconut, 01:44:02.350 --> 01:44:08.730 raw chocolate, mocha, the chlorella, the cod liver oil, the collagen, the everything, 01:44:08.770 --> 01:44:15.250 it's taken the same exact way allopathic medicine prescribes. Oh, you got this ill, 01:44:15.250 --> 01:44:21.290 take this, you know, natural remedy. But it's the same thing. It's, it's arthritis, 01:44:21.890 --> 01:44:28.970 take your collagen. That's right. It's pointing a gun at a symptom. And so the then then flipping 01:44:28.970 --> 01:44:34.990 over to ivermectin isn't such a big stretch. Yeah, no, right. You're right. Yeah. Yeah, 01:44:35.110 --> 01:44:39.650 yeah, you're very welcome. And turmeric also very high in oxalates. Yeah, I just hate that 01:44:39.650 --> 01:44:43.150 stuff. I like I said, I would buy it and not use it. It would sit on the counter and 01:44:43.150 --> 01:44:47.410 rot away. And I'm like, Oh, okay, I guess I, you know, won't buy that for a little while until I 01:44:47.410 --> 01:44:54.150 forget. I'm saving all those. I still have like bags of various, you know, clothes, turmeric, 01:44:55.270 --> 01:45:02.950 curry. I'm saving it for the zombies. When they come, there you go, big turmeric balls and 01:45:02.950 --> 01:45:10.070 began here. Yeah, put, make it in chocolate. Nice containment chocolate. Yes, yes, yes, 01:45:10.070 --> 01:45:15.110 absolutely. I know. I still have chocolate. I haven't touched it now for four years. But 01:45:15.770 --> 01:45:23.330 but I still have some and cacao butter and cacao paste. And yeah, what's up with cacao, by the way, 01:45:24.410 --> 01:45:31.890 say, is there the cacao for cacao butter? We have no caffeine in it. But is there what's 01:45:31.890 --> 01:45:36.290 what would be wrong with it other than the high fat? Oh, yeah, I stayed with that. You know, 01:45:36.290 --> 01:45:43.870 I talk myself into all just make white chocolate, which which I did. But I would then put Chinese 01:45:43.870 --> 01:45:48.330 mushrooms in it. And it would taste like real chocolate. And it, you know, gave it a little 01:45:48.330 --> 01:45:56.790 coloring with the chaga in it. I think it still has that terrible fat in it. And some other other 01:45:56.790 --> 01:46:02.790 things. It's just not it's just not worth eating it. You know, yeah, I put one of those raw 01:46:02.790 --> 01:46:07.970 chips in my mouth a few months after starting the love your liver. And it was so bitter and 01:46:07.970 --> 01:46:12.830 disgusting. I'm like, did this go bad? Or this is how it really tastes? And I'm just I'm just noticing 01:46:12.830 --> 01:46:19.010 it now. Okay, I couldn't figure it out. So yeah, recommending the turmeric for arthritis, 01:46:19.130 --> 01:46:25.570 which it will cause, right, like it will literally build up the vitamin A is a nemesis to 01:46:25.570 --> 01:46:32.010 your to your joints. And it's a big part of the anti inflammatory diet. That's another diet. 01:46:32.570 --> 01:46:36.670 You know, tried for a very short time. But yeah, I know. 01:46:37.410 --> 01:46:41.290 Yeah, when inflammation is considered to be the enemy, it's like, but what caused the 01:46:41.290 --> 01:46:47.410 inflammation, you guys, come on, we got to take one more step, figure that out. 01:46:48.110 --> 01:46:52.930 Yeah. And then the black pepper Jackie, I realized that was poisoned because in India, 01:46:53.010 --> 01:46:58.310 I owed deed in a restaurant. They just use way too much black pepper in this little Southern 01:46:58.310 --> 01:47:07.370 India corner of, what was it? Probably Kerala. And I would, I would just have a big reaction 01:47:07.370 --> 01:47:12.770 every time I ate their food. So I knew that black pepper was not for me. I never used it 01:47:12.770 --> 01:47:16.870 on my food otherwise and walked away from it. But yeah, definitely. 01:47:17.330 --> 01:47:23.170 It sort of is similar like fulvic acid, the black pepper helps to absorb other poisons. 01:47:23.850 --> 01:47:27.510 That's why they always say when you do turmeric must do some black pepper with it. 01:47:27.510 --> 01:47:34.710 So that it will absorb better. Like, oh, great, great. And it's also black pepper is very high 01:47:34.710 --> 01:47:40.630 in oxalate. Like the oxalate people will say, do white pepper? Well, okay, it's lower in oxalates, 01:47:40.650 --> 01:47:45.830 but there's other stuff in there. Right, right. Yeah. And taste terrible. Come on, you guys. 01:47:46.730 --> 01:47:54.010 Well, that needs, what does that dose kind of stimulating foods? What do they do? They kind 01:47:54.010 --> 01:48:00.890 of hit you like a sharp like, mm, you know, you feel it's that need to, and we've been so trained. 01:48:01.070 --> 01:48:05.910 I mean, this is, I'm really, you know, a heretic against Western civilization in what I'm saying 01:48:05.910 --> 01:48:12.450 here, you know, because we've been trained to be stimulated and have a high from it, you know, 01:48:12.490 --> 01:48:20.890 from the kind of programs we watch from the news itself, right? So, so the, the, the spices 01:48:20.890 --> 01:48:26.370 and all that they give us that hit of what we it's like we're repeating the pattern that's been kind 01:48:26.370 --> 01:48:33.410 of put into our everyday life, not because it's natural. We shouldn't be that stimulated unless 01:48:33.410 --> 01:48:39.350 we're, you know, being chased by some, you know, lion or something. Yeah, then we shouldn't be 01:48:39.350 --> 01:48:45.130 stimulated and fully alert, but not the way we are in everyday, you know, modern life. It's 01:48:45.130 --> 01:48:49.830 a lot. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, you don't want the phone to ring and then you go into like 01:48:49.830 --> 01:48:56.610 hyper, hyperfighting flight mode. So yeah, yeah. And would there be copper? I don't know, 01:48:56.630 --> 01:49:02.690 particularly about the black pepper. I wouldn't doubt it, but I don't know. You can always ask 01:49:02.690 --> 01:49:11.690 your chat GPT and verify in case they're lying. What's that? The chat GPT really knows. 01:49:12.450 --> 01:49:16.650 Yeah, it can, but it should be verified. Absolutely. Every little bit of data, 01:49:16.650 --> 01:49:22.450 if you want to call it knowledge has to be verified. They are known for lying. They've 01:49:22.450 --> 01:49:28.050 misattributed two quotes to me. I said this and then when I said I didn't say that, they're like, 01:49:28.110 --> 01:49:33.850 oh, oops, sorry. They're like programmed to apologize. So that's really funny. 01:49:35.270 --> 01:49:38.950 All right, so we are only at 15. I bet we're not going to finish today. 01:49:40.370 --> 01:49:45.790 But if you think that you might be available to do one more. 01:49:45.790 --> 01:49:50.830 I would love to do one more and get to some of the, really get into some of these, 01:49:50.990 --> 01:49:57.190 which are more recent decade. Yeah, because there's some good ones in there. 01:49:57.550 --> 01:50:03.510 Yeah. Yeah, I wonder is that a good place to leave it for now? And we can just chat a bit 01:50:03.510 --> 01:50:08.750 since it's already 10 minutes to the second hour. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I know that went really fast. 01:50:08.750 --> 01:50:16.130 Wow. That really went so fast. Okay. Yeah. And if anyone has any questions, so yeah, we'll have to, 01:50:16.970 --> 01:50:23.270 because one week today is which kind of day, something like Christmas. Is it the day after 01:50:23.270 --> 01:50:29.230 Christmas? So your boxing day, it's not the best, but we can just get together and talk and see if 01:50:29.230 --> 01:50:35.610 you want to do an episode that day. I'm fine with it, but I don't know what your schedule is. 01:50:35.610 --> 01:50:39.110 I barely have any plans. I don't have friends. I don't have family. 01:50:40.070 --> 01:50:45.450 I do have friends actually, but I have family. I just don't see them, 01:50:45.550 --> 01:50:49.650 and I don't get invited to the dinners. No bitterness over here or anything like that. 01:50:50.930 --> 01:50:57.050 And which is fine. It's all good. Black pepper kills bacteria. It's probably why 01:50:57.050 --> 01:51:02.310 they loved it in India. Kills good stuff too. Exactly. This is the kind of thinking you 01:51:02.310 --> 01:51:08.970 want to. We were totally brainwashed with that. Oh, it kills bacteria. Therefore, put it in your 01:51:08.970 --> 01:51:15.670 mouth. I'm still a little on the edge with silver, even though Garrett is very into silver. Oh, 01:51:15.690 --> 01:51:19.850 and let's make sure to answer that question that came up at the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. 01:51:21.750 --> 01:51:27.750 Yeah, so think it away. What's your response? Yeah, let's do that exactly. So someone asked 01:51:27.750 --> 01:51:32.310 us last time on the way out, and I promised to answer this, that, oh, you meant copper and 01:51:32.310 --> 01:51:38.470 the cow butter. Yeah, I'm kind of guessing too. So on the way out, because we sound like we are in 01:51:38.470 --> 01:51:44.550 the cult of Garrett Smith. I know we do. I know, because there's been an awakening. There has 01:51:44.550 --> 01:51:51.090 been like, aha. And but it's not because he makes sense when he talks. It's because what 01:51:51.090 --> 01:52:00.050 he says makes sense in my body. I have never in my life been able to walk like it's always been 90% 01:52:00.050 --> 01:52:06.990 mystery. And that's what pushed me to really develop the mental, spiritual, emotional work, 01:52:06.990 --> 01:52:13.530 because that's all I had. I didn't even have truth at the level of health. I was always a big 01:52:13.530 --> 01:52:21.810 question mark. And so having found things that not only make scientific verifiable 01:52:22.370 --> 01:52:28.570 through the medical research from many different angles, it's not just, oh, one article said this, 01:52:28.690 --> 01:52:35.390 it's not like that. It is a compare and a contrast. The guy provides all the receipts, 01:52:35.850 --> 01:52:42.230 the exact links to the exact papers, and he talks through them and he helps you to learn 01:52:42.230 --> 01:52:47.690 so that you yourself could start to understand without being dependent on him. Now, I don't have 01:52:47.690 --> 01:52:53.010 to go to him with every question. I can literally go to the medical research and do justice 01:52:53.010 --> 01:53:01.830 to a degree. I don't want to overstate that ability yet, but it's growing. And so if I can 01:53:01.830 --> 01:53:10.430 verify and I can gain control over my health, then I get excited. I'm like, wow, this is new, 01:53:10.430 --> 01:53:16.150 better late than never. This is who knows how long my life is after this could be longer. 01:53:16.950 --> 01:53:21.170 We've been joking a few of us in the back end that somebody was saying to me yesterday, 01:53:21.230 --> 01:53:26.370 maybe we'll be the last three people on earth after, you know, if we make this experiment 01:53:27.610 --> 01:53:33.470 and we maintain health beyond what other people are able to do may or may not happen. Someone 01:53:33.470 --> 01:53:38.210 just wrote me, oh my 70 year old one friend is doing fantastic doing all the wrong things. 01:53:38.210 --> 01:53:42.850 Can you explain that? And that's like, no, I can't. And I don't know her and I don't understand 01:53:43.390 --> 01:53:48.510 the ins and outs or her life and her history or anything like I literally could say nothing 01:53:48.510 --> 01:53:53.590 about that. And it's possible she has a miraculous relationship with God. And there's 01:53:53.590 --> 01:53:59.710 something that that trumps everything. All healing is the grace of the divine at the end of the 01:53:59.710 --> 01:54:04.790 day. But there's a lot more knowledge that that we could have. We're just in a in a place 01:54:04.790 --> 01:54:11.250 in history that Garrett's work is unique. There isn't anyone that says what he's saying. They 01:54:11.250 --> 01:54:17.490 haven't made the same discoveries about toxic bile theory, which became toxic bile paradigm 01:54:17.490 --> 01:54:23.290 because of the incredible reliability. Here's another major thing is that because he doesn't 01:54:23.290 --> 01:54:30.290 work with one person or just ideas and push around ideas, he has people that hire him 01:54:30.290 --> 01:54:35.310 and rely on him. And it's not just once you go to see him and then you move on, 01:54:35.310 --> 01:54:41.190 like a lot of the practitioners, we're there for six months at a time. I'm now signed up for 18 01:54:41.190 --> 01:54:47.250 months into the future. Why? Not because I'm in trouble. It's because the quality of the education 01:54:47.250 --> 01:54:53.570 is unparalleled. I go every single time to his office hours, even though it's in the middle of 01:54:53.570 --> 01:54:58.490 my day, it's it's a very, if you could call it expensive time, I could be doing something 01:54:58.490 --> 01:55:04.830 really productive with that time. But I am because I'm getting I'm getting the goods and I'm getting to 01:55:04.830 --> 01:55:13.470 see through many people's eyes, their wins, their their struggles to to see how it goes. And and 01:55:13.910 --> 01:55:20.410 you become a detective for yourself for others. He doesn't push the supplements down your throat. 01:55:20.410 --> 01:55:28.710 He's not shilling his brand. Yes, they are a high quality that that he himself wants to take. That's 01:55:28.710 --> 01:55:32.430 probably what started them making their own supplements, because they weren't finding the 01:55:32.430 --> 01:55:38.510 quality that they wanted. But you know, if I want to make my own magnesium oil, it's a simple 01:55:38.510 --> 01:55:44.570 recipe, and they provide it. So it's, you know, it's not much of a money making business, 01:55:44.570 --> 01:55:51.730 although he is a very good entrepreneur. He sells very well. You won't get a single email that doesn't 01:55:51.730 --> 01:55:56.630 have a link to a product. So he takes care of himself that way. He's got a big ship to run. 01:55:57.550 --> 01:56:04.830 And is this the only approach to me? It's just the one that makes sense. And it's a growing 01:56:04.830 --> 01:56:11.990 paradigm is a growing body of knowledge. We've seen over our time of involvement how he comes 01:56:11.990 --> 01:56:17.030 out with new research. Kelsey is a ground breaker. If you didn't see the interview from 01:56:17.030 --> 01:56:22.770 yesterday, Kelsey, Kenny, when there's a problem, she dives in to the cell and the molecular 01:56:22.770 --> 01:56:29.590 biology side of things and discovers, you know, what has been either buried or demonized like 01:56:29.590 --> 01:56:41.750 MSG. So this is a team I want to be on. They are forward thinking. They are hugely compassionate. 01:56:42.210 --> 01:56:48.250 I hear like, you know, Garrett could be such a jerk to a lot of people who are stuck. And they 01:56:48.250 --> 01:56:51.970 can't have a new thought. And maybe every week they're having the same thought. And that 01:56:51.970 --> 01:56:56.150 happens, right? Like it's, I hear myself do it's like, Oh, I want to ask that question 01:56:56.150 --> 01:57:00.330 again, that I already asked 50 times. And I still want to ask it because there's something, 01:57:00.510 --> 01:57:06.790 you know, some other factor here. But he's nothing but kind and patient and compassionate. 01:57:07.810 --> 01:57:12.490 And, you know, I've been through some hellish stuff too in this last year. And they were there 01:57:12.490 --> 01:57:21.190 for me. They didn't slough me off or say like, Oh, you know, save it for this time or that 01:57:21.190 --> 01:57:27.190 time. He has good boundaries, but he also has a very big heart. So anything you want to add to that? 01:57:27.850 --> 01:57:33.950 I just want to, I love what everything you said. You're so eloquent. The education. 01:57:34.910 --> 01:57:40.610 See, to me, this is this is what distinguishes this from many other things that I have done 01:57:42.170 --> 01:57:52.450 that even, you know, you, I don't need any of his supplements. I love them. And I use some of them. 01:57:52.730 --> 01:57:57.670 But there's no need for them. Like I keep going down to base one, which is just the food. 01:57:58.250 --> 01:58:02.770 You know, that's like, that's my resting place. And 01:58:05.830 --> 01:58:13.210 the education, the being able to connect like we only got halfway through my stuff, you know, 01:58:13.330 --> 01:58:21.230 when when I connect some of the ones that we will talk about next week, those get, I got, 01:58:21.490 --> 01:58:26.250 I continue to get more and more and more scientific as I went on and on. And 01:58:28.010 --> 01:58:33.390 originally someone told me about Garrett and they asked me to debunk him 01:58:34.090 --> 01:58:38.590 because they just were getting into their raw cream and their raw dairy and all that. And 01:58:38.590 --> 01:58:44.950 they were like, you have to debunk him. I go, no problem. And I, and as I dove into it, 01:58:45.690 --> 01:58:51.610 just to dive into it, I realized like, oh, there's more education here. And I kept going 01:58:51.610 --> 01:58:59.210 and going. And I realized I started to connect all the things that I had done in the past specifically 01:58:59.930 --> 01:59:06.670 in a scientific way, you know, when did which symptoms show up and how I kept being misled? 01:59:07.150 --> 01:59:15.090 Like I've done so many bad things, but I was fine, you know, up until a certain point, 01:59:15.110 --> 01:59:20.250 then I do something else. And I never would connect them. I wouldn't connect like what 01:59:20.250 --> 01:59:28.250 happened, when and why. And his education and the and also grand general's three books, 01:59:28.250 --> 01:59:36.890 which I read his free PDFs, or truly like just gave me, I mean, that's why I can't hide my 01:59:36.890 --> 01:59:43.250 enthusiasm about, you know, what I learned, because so many things that not only in my life, 01:59:43.250 --> 01:59:50.190 but in my family's life, I saw how things shifted when we started to add more copper. 01:59:50.570 --> 01:59:57.730 And when we started to add tons and tons of a, and when we started to when we would take something 01:59:57.730 --> 02:00:03.230 away, I would see how things changed and how some would improve and some will get worse. 02:00:03.450 --> 02:00:09.350 But what I love is that I can go that Garrett has given us tools to go on PubMed. 02:00:09.350 --> 02:00:14.650 You know, you're not going to some strange hidden, you know, you just go on PubMed and you 02:00:14.650 --> 02:00:20.450 there's so much amazing research there. You know, now how to read that research, 02:00:20.450 --> 02:00:30.430 I feel so much more confident about that. And just understanding that what that I mean, 02:00:30.450 --> 02:00:37.070 I never even thought of bile and never even occurred to me, right? You know, to put that 02:00:37.070 --> 02:00:44.670 together and to be thinking about like, Oh, so this is already by itself, the most toxic substance 02:00:44.670 --> 02:00:51.630 in our body. And then we all have a certain recipe of that. And that basically we're just 02:00:51.630 --> 02:00:58.990 trying to get it to not be super crazy toxic, you know, by not putting in more toxins, just 02:00:58.990 --> 02:01:05.950 let it do its thing of removing daily type of stuff, but not have to deal with the burden 02:01:05.950 --> 02:01:11.810 of constantly adding more and more. So once I grasped the whole bio thing, I was like, wow, 02:01:12.150 --> 02:01:18.650 how could I have missed that? But then it's easy, you know, because, you know, even if you go take 02:01:18.650 --> 02:01:28.030 biology or even I was pre-med. So I and I still missed it. I still missed it. And I didn't get into 02:01:28.030 --> 02:01:33.570 it like that. But now that I have that in my pocket, I can look at all the other things 02:01:33.570 --> 02:01:41.170 that I've done and see why they worked it or why they didn't. So anyway, so I just think that I just, 02:01:41.490 --> 02:01:48.310 I don't think this is the only thing. But I think that right now it is for me the only thing that 02:01:48.310 --> 02:01:56.250 is able to put an umbrella over everything that I have done over 48 years and tried, you know, 02:01:56.370 --> 02:02:02.090 it's like the only umbrella that can capture it all and put it into perspective. 02:02:03.570 --> 02:02:10.410 And that I'm experiencing it and seeing what it does. So yeah, yeah, beautiful. Thank you. I 02:02:10.410 --> 02:02:16.490 appreciate that hearing from you. And yeah, it's a it's a good team. It's a good team. There's 02:02:16.490 --> 02:02:23.130 there's good people in there that that's also one of the ways that I evaluate the efficacy 02:02:23.130 --> 02:02:28.430 of a practitioner is who is surrounded? You know, what are the quality of the people 02:02:28.430 --> 02:02:35.490 that are around? Are they, you know, willing to actually research? Or do they just want to 02:02:35.490 --> 02:02:41.770 listen to somebody say that they're doing the research and and with no worry of like opening 02:02:41.770 --> 02:02:48.790 a link or following up on anything? Never mind the detective work in yourself. And that's now 02:02:48.790 --> 02:02:53.250 now, I can't believe how low my my standards were for research. 02:02:54.950 --> 02:02:59.830 Crazy. Oh, boy, that's embarrassing. But but now, you know, the first thing I'm going to do is, 02:02:59.950 --> 02:03:05.630 okay, like what what's what evidence do you actually have? And it's not going to be just 02:03:05.630 --> 02:03:11.550 like so and so said, or the YouTube said, or like, let's let's actually see comparative 02:03:13.030 --> 02:03:16.870 literature, where studies were actually done. And that's one thing I appreciate too, 02:03:16.890 --> 02:03:21.390 because you asked I asked a lot of questions in that form. And they will just say there's 02:03:21.390 --> 02:03:26.570 no research on it. Maybe they'll have a guess or an opinion or something like that. But the 02:03:26.570 --> 02:03:30.250 first thing is like, there's no research on that, I kept trying to get them to answer me about 02:03:30.250 --> 02:03:38.630 the topical use of things like magnesium and niacin and and it's or metals, because I got 02:03:38.630 --> 02:03:44.250 myself a zinc bracelet in case I could tolerate the zinc wearing it, but there's just no research 02:03:44.250 --> 02:03:49.430 to go back and they will admit they will not just admit that, but they will be very 02:03:49.430 --> 02:03:56.530 forthright, not leading you to believe things that have no basis. So it's a it's a very non 02:03:56.530 --> 02:04:01.890 religious non belief base. Oh, trust the faith, trust the process or they're not trust the faith, 02:04:01.970 --> 02:04:07.330 but you know, have faith in the in the process kind of thing. It's that's none of that. It's 02:04:07.330 --> 02:04:13.150 much more science based. And I appreciate that so much. We should do a short intro of 02:04:13.150 --> 02:04:18.730 that for the upcoming bio podcast. Yeah, yeah, that's a smart idea. I think we're doing 02:04:18.730 --> 02:04:22.550 that tomorrow early in the morning. Not my best time, I tell you, but I'll have to, 02:04:23.050 --> 02:04:26.150 I don't know what I'll do to, I might have to drink coffee tomorrow 02:04:27.470 --> 02:04:31.310 to stimulate or what is some I'll take some other poison to stimulate me 02:04:31.730 --> 02:04:35.270 in the morning, which I probably don't need. I'll get on my vibrate. Oh, I got a vibration 02:04:35.270 --> 02:04:40.190 plate by the way, thanks to you. Oh, wow. Yeah, because you sent me that workout, 02:04:40.370 --> 02:04:44.690 the 10 minute workout that she does on a vibration plate. Oh, I do it on my little 02:04:44.690 --> 02:04:51.050 trampoline. I vibrate myself. Excellent. Yeah, yeah, it's a really good tool. I'm pretty excited 02:04:51.050 --> 02:04:56.350 about that. I also got a sauna blanket. I'm not as happy with that. I have to say at first I was 02:04:56.350 --> 02:05:03.510 thrilled just because I thought I had fixed my my sweating, you know, desire to sweat more. 02:05:04.150 --> 02:05:07.910 But it's it's not that good. I don't know. I'm going to experiment with it a little over 02:05:07.910 --> 02:05:14.990 the weekend. And I just don't sweat that easily. So somehow, I don't know, have you tried anything 02:05:14.990 --> 02:05:21.470 like that? I have I have a infrared sauna that I do go I also show sauna. It takes me quite a while 02:05:21.470 --> 02:05:27.950 to to break into a sweat. It does too. Okay. Yeah. Okay, that's good to hear. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe 02:05:27.950 --> 02:05:32.950 next week, could we also talk about I would love to share just a little bit about the butteco 02:05:32.950 --> 02:05:40.210 breathing. Totally. Technique because I think I can kind of sum it up. It's really good. It's a 02:05:40.210 --> 02:05:46.330 wonderful addition to to Garrett's work and also what Kelsey was talking about yesterday. 02:05:47.650 --> 02:05:52.170 You know, the breathing and it's very simple and you can just do it anytime anywhere while 02:05:52.170 --> 02:05:59.430 you're driving walking, you know. Yeah. Fantastic. I put it on the list for next time. So 02:05:59.430 --> 02:06:03.750 yeah, we'll keep you guys posted if it's going to be one week today on Boxing Day. 02:06:04.070 --> 02:06:09.990 I think it could be okay, but I don't know yet for sure. So stay tuned. If you're not already a 02:06:09.990 --> 02:06:16.410 subscriber at my website, you could go there and sign up for King Hero archetype quiz or 02:06:16.410 --> 02:06:23.490 an ascension myth busting training for both for free and or anything. Just put up your hand 02:06:23.490 --> 02:06:30.910 and we can be in contact. I always send out notices about these live streams and I think 02:06:30.910 --> 02:06:37.430 we're going to have 20 second coming up. We'll see you guys Monday here for Alex Michael, who is the 02:06:37.430 --> 02:06:42.270 conspiracy music guru. We're going to be talking Sulfedio. I don't talk frequencies with very 02:06:42.270 --> 02:06:48.510 many people because it's not it's not what I cracked it up today. We could probably put 02:06:48.510 --> 02:06:53.230 that on the list or, you know, the frequency machines and stuff like that. I think maybe we 02:06:53.230 --> 02:06:58.450 sort of covered that last time. Oh, actually, you know, that's that that that that is kind of a 02:06:58.450 --> 02:07:06.050 health cult too. It really is. We should do a little bit a little little with that. Yeah. 02:07:06.170 --> 02:07:12.130 Okay. It's on it's on the list for sure. Exactly. Yeah. And yeah, breathing is good. 02:07:12.130 --> 02:07:18.170 Breathing is very, very good, right? That's that you you can live with two days without food and you 02:07:18.170 --> 02:07:26.990 can live well two days without water. I think what is it? No, no, it's much much. No, it's like 10 02:07:26.990 --> 02:07:32.170 days. It's much longer without food and a little less water and then with breath. Yeah. 02:07:32.830 --> 02:07:38.570 Yeah, it's like minutes. Yeah, it's over for you. So yeah, breathing super important and 02:07:39.130 --> 02:07:44.250 it is a good part of healing. That's something that I've learned to do, especially when people are 02:07:44.950 --> 02:07:50.730 immobilized in any way that maybe you can't jump on that trampoline, but you can like, you know, 02:07:50.790 --> 02:07:56.290 just do this on it and and and breath work, which will move your system. When I was really 02:07:56.290 --> 02:08:03.150 sick a few years back, I moved my lymph with the breath every day, every day, every day, all day, 02:08:03.150 --> 02:08:10.290 breathing and breathing and breathing have a really strong diaphragm now, actually. Yeah, yeah, 02:08:10.410 --> 02:08:16.090 there there can be some I'll put I'll put that on the list. Well, because there's so many misconceptions 02:08:16.090 --> 02:08:22.590 where people think carbon dioxide is bad and oxygen is good. And to understand that you need a 02:08:22.590 --> 02:08:28.730 certain level of carbon dioxide to make the oxygen actually be able to to be integrated into 02:08:28.730 --> 02:08:35.990 your tissues, you know, so that and the intake of breathing really it's it's it's quite a trip. 02:08:36.430 --> 02:08:43.130 It's quite a yeah. Okay, yes, we'll add the pranayam to the talk about breathing. Okay, 02:08:43.150 --> 02:08:47.510 fantastic. Good. Well, thank you very much. Honestly, I couldn't have done justice to 02:08:47.510 --> 02:08:52.930 a lot of this and more to come. So I really appreciate that that you could come and do 02:08:52.930 --> 02:09:00.170 this and and keep going with me. I took a couple for the team. All the diets that I've done. 02:09:01.430 --> 02:09:08.230 Exactly. Exactly. Now we get your lived wisdom, which truly is an expertise of kinds. So yeah, 02:09:08.270 --> 02:09:15.890 I think that's all for today. You can find me at BethMartens.com. And there are a number of 02:09:15.890 --> 02:09:21.650 ways to get involved. The creator code course is going to be starting in January on the 14th. 02:09:21.650 --> 02:09:27.910 This is for the either visioneers or want to be visioneers who feel like there's too much 02:09:27.910 --> 02:09:33.230 heaviness in their life right now. And they're not able to put what they want out in front of them, 02:09:33.330 --> 02:09:37.550 or they're doing that, but they know that it's not coming from a clean place. It's 02:09:37.550 --> 02:09:43.710 exhausting them or they get exhausted in the process. And so this is going to be a really 02:09:43.710 --> 02:09:48.510 beautiful thing. I've got I've got a good crew already signed up for for this and about 02:09:48.510 --> 02:09:56.450 maybe another eight or nine spots are left. So if you'd like to join before December 29th, 02:09:56.450 --> 02:10:00.690 it's the best time if you connect with me because the early bird will end there. It's 02:10:00.690 --> 02:10:07.770 it's a very deeply I don't want to use the D word, but there's deep savings on the course 02:10:07.770 --> 02:10:13.190 right now because you're going to be actually assisting me by giving me feedback and letting 02:10:13.190 --> 02:10:19.910 me know how to how to improve this for future creators to come. Because this is probably something 02:10:19.910 --> 02:10:25.830 I'm going to be doing on a regular basis, maybe three, four times a year even. So yeah, 02:10:26.150 --> 02:10:30.490 that's going to be a lot of fun. And thank you very much everyone for coming. Thanks again. 02:10:30.750 --> 02:10:37.730 I'm going to play us out. And I think that's all ready to go. So lots of love. Dagmar 02:10:37.730 --> 02:10:43.330 you too, Beth. Okay. Thank you. Bye. Bye for now.