Hello. Happy New Year. It's 26. 2026. I still can't say that. Welcome to the Bath & Fresh Air.
I'm going to bring Dagmar on and we're here for Decult Natural Health Part 4. Oh my goodness,
we're making making tracks here. Welcome Dagmar. Hello Beth. Happy Fake New Year to you.
Happy Fake New Year. Yeah. I've had a very, very quiet and philosophical as I always do
New Year. It feels so good to be not a part of the whole hype, you know.
Indeed. Indeed. And our best friends are here. Maya and Elisa and it's Jackie Kay. Welcome. So
great to have you. All right. Well, we can just chat for a few minutes and wait for
some others to come along. I have to admit being discombobulated. I have to remind myself
several times what day it is, what year it is. And yeah, we had New Year's. I don't celebrate,
but because it's my son's birthday, then that totally eclipses everything and turns a fake
thing into a real thing for me anyway. Hello Ms. Quietly Content Bear. I always want to
say your name, but sometimes I forget people are actually using screen names to not be identified.
That kind of kicks my butt and I tell you too, I'm really bad at remembering, because I will remember
someone's real name, but not their screen name, as you see over and over. Yeah, lots of interesting
things going on. We've had quite a year in the House of Free Will. It's been fun. There's
been a lot of rallying, some new people coming into the zone, fresh blood in the law guilt
there. I didn't think it was going to happen, but it did. So shout out to you know who you are
in the House of Free Will. And Ms. Michelle is here as well. Thank you for being here.
Maybe I'll just let people know also that the Creator Code course is starting January 14th.
That's about deprogramming our future. And there's only two spots left. So if you wanted
to join, then this is a really good time. I sent out a little tiny note to my list today.
And so here is a link. Pretty excited about this. It's bringing a ton of new stuff out of me.
It's all the same thing that I've done in terms of the tools and the methods and the
archetypes. But it's coming out specifically for the purpose of creating envisioning. So it's
a new iteration altogether. Barely keep up with what's coming out of me. So
love that. You're so prolific. Oh, you know, it's a happiness thing that if I'm not creating,
then it's I just feel like there's there's something missing. I'm sure you can relate.
Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. No, if I'm not creating, I feel like somebody died. It's like who died.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. If you guys don't know, you can go back into episodes of Yin and the Rocks
and Dagmar. There's some links in there to your one woman show and your YouTube channel and all
that. Feel free to share in the chat here if you'd like as well. Oh, well, if I knew how to
share in the chat, I'd be so sophisticated. You have to teach me that sometime. Okay.
If you you're here on stream yard, so you can go to the place called comments in the upper right hand
column. I guess I have to minimize everything. Upper right hand comments. Okay. Comments. Oh,
there they are. Yeah, all the people. Exactly. There you go. You found us. So
you might be able to post it might also ask you to hook up your YouTube
to the chat. So it's so cool. See, now I feel like I just got off the boat and I am learning
the ways of America or technology. It was that simple. And that's how things in life can be
sometimes you create this like fake barrier inside yourself like, Oh, I can't learn that.
You know, oh, that's too complicated. Or like, Oh, I am technically retarded. I've said that
often about myself. And and how why do why why? I guess that will be part of deep programming your
future. And you put it up. Okay. Yeah, Michelle found it for us. She's a ninja. Thank you.
Yeah. Yeah. We appreciate that very much. That helps me. And and yeah, as far as those
blocks go, there's one of the programs I help people to release can be called resistance.
When you got the block, right, when it's just a little thing, I noticed that with my dishes at
night, I do not want to do dishes at night. I just don't see we got a sound but it's gone now.
Okay, cool. And I look at them and I'll pass by them and I'll arrange them and maybe I'll
rinse them and do stuff that there's this resistance kind of thing. And sometimes I practice a game.
And I've recommended this to students where I go through certain periods, especially when
I'm super busy and I've got like a million little things to do getting ready for a trip
or something like that. And every single time I feel resistance, I will do the thing.
Oh, I don't want to do the dishes. Good. I'll do them right now. Oh,
I don't want to brush my teeth. I'll do them right now. Oh, I don't want to book that ticket.
Then I'll do it right now. So it's a really, it's a really good one speeds things up.
And we're going to talk about speed today where it's good and where it's not as good.
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, that just supplies to everything even creating,
you know, just to allow for that, you know, to release that push. Because when you're like,
it's like you can't tell a child, hey, listen, you know, create something great for me right now
and make sure you look like you're enjoying it. It's that part of us that loves to create
under that kind of pressure. Usually will be like,
so yeah, everything. Yeah, do you find it can work both ways? I hear people say it quite a bit,
like when the deadline's coming, then all of a sudden things can flow. Yeah, but see, I think
that that's just kind of an emergency way of getting to the same place. Because what you're
really doing in those moments is you're unblocking yourself, you know, because you stop talking,
you're going, okay, I got to do it. And you put that on pause so things can flow out,
but you can achieve that same place. We're going to talk about the breathing, which is,
you know, you can hyperventilate and, you know, be full of energy, or you can just breathe so
gently that you still get energy, but it's the kind that's sustainable.
Nice. There's a, there's a difference in how we approach the, the, I mean, our body is like,
what kind of a crazy creative process is that nonstop? You know, and I always, I tend to
look at our body, I look at it like the animal in my body, like, you know, because we animals
are so amazing. We love them, you know, whether they're your own pet or whether they're, you know,
some animal in the wild, but it's, it's an animal. And you don't just walk up to an animal and start
beating it or shoving things in its mouth or trying to make it vomit or, you know, giving
it an animal, even though nothing wrong, as long as it's a niacin animal. But, you know,
you get my point, you know, that it's, that it's, there's something about that we approach the animal
with respect and awe and, and, and a trust that it's alive in front of us. It's done pretty good
that it's here alive in its great glory. And that's the same thing to approach our bodies that way
that, you know, the moment that just to start ground zero is like, wow, you're alive, I'm
alive. And look what you've been through and you're here and you're still completely devoted to me.
You know, no matter how much faith I may lose or, you know, complain, but it's still here. My heart
is beating. I'm breathing. You know, that's totally, totally. And if I say one more thing about
speed, because there's just, and it added nuance there. I like everything that you said
around it. And for me personally, because my life is, we could say erratic compared to some. So I'll
have, you know, a lot of activity all of a sudden right now, that's been the case with a new course
coming up and creating that. And it is kind of ramped up. And I've been working into the night
quite often, which is not my favorite, because for a while I had been much more restful at
night. But that's just how it happens. And then, you know, the course is going to get going,
it'll be a different kind of level. It'll probably, it'll probably even out and find its own pace over,
it's going to be 12 weeks, so a little bit of a marathon time. They're not compared to the seven
months of journey code, but nonetheless, still a nice, a nice haul. And then I'll be able to
sit back and relax. You'll notice I had podcasted quite a bit in the last little while.
My last one scheduled coming up is Monday. That is actually, just so I say it now,
Achille Curado. He's a police officer out of London, Ontario. And he's been through
some very severe levels of corruption that he tried to expose and then got crushed.
And he's coming on, I believe, for the first time ever to tell his story. I'm not sure why he
identified me as a safe place to do that, or however he would describe it, but I'm
pretty excited. And then it's going to get quiet. We'll still do, I'll still be definitely
doing Breath of Fresh Air. We'll see what the next episodes are going to be about.
And, but yeah, there'll be, there'll be like a calm down. So there's modulation. It goes up,
it goes down, it goes up, and it goes down. And I'm a little like an alligator. I think
it's not the animal that can go fast in sprints and then stops. And it pays its,
what do they call it, oxygen debt? Also, motivation is everything, right? So if you go,
if you go fast from fear, there you go. And if you go slow from fear, both, there's not,
your slow is not better than your fast in that case. So yeah, motivation really is absolutely
everything. Well, and really, what is it? It's passion, you know, I mean, it's like you're,
because what you're doing is not, you're not going, I gotta stay up late. Oh my God,
you know, no, you're, you're driven by something that wants to come forth. So you're actually
riding your own rhythm. I love the way you describe the modulation, you know, that that is
very different than pushing or punishing. Indeed, indeed. Yeah, yeah. And that disposition towards
the body, like the love, the kindness, the affection, the gratitude, this is the
makings of a good relationship with your body. Now, what we're going to talk about today are
three, four, five other modalities in the last episodes. If you didn't catch them,
we talked about a whole bunch of different diets and approaches to health. Mostly we've been on
the food department and often comparing it to the system that Dagmeir and I have used in the
last year and a bit now called toxic bile paradigm. There's a new episode toxic bile
paradigm. Does anybody want to find that for me so I can post it? We're doing two more episodes
Garrett and I tomorrow so that we can really flush that out, especially for newcomers. And
I'm going to start putting people in headlocks and making them watch it. I've already started.
Very good. Very good. Yeah, I actually said that to someone today. Yeah,
now I'm going to put you in a headlock now and send you some information
with love. Of course. Headlock is a, it's a Kali headlock, you know. Yeah. Yeah,
exactly. Kali doesn't do it for her own ego gratification. She does it when she sees
someone as being less than who they can be. Take your head, chop it off. Yeah, exactly.
Thank you, mommy. Yes, please. That's cute. All right. Well, the first one, if you're ready to
get going on our list here is, I was actually really appreciating that you included this because
I spent the only time I spent with this one was thinking it's a bunch of BS. So that's,
and I was in somebody's world that they started to hype on low deuterium
diet and, and what they call it reduced deuterium depleted water. And they started to build
actually a little bit of an empire on top of it and started to network with universities and
things that institutions that we might consider to be compromised in the health world. And
and there was a lot of funding. And next thing you know, they're trying to get a lot more funding in
from us. And it just reeked of a cult. Yeah. So what do you know about the low deuterium?
Well, I'm sure if it's the same people that I worked with, right? Yeah. But one of them happens
to be a fellow Brown University graduate of mine. So that's kind of how I stumbled into it.
But first, I just want to say, you know, we don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater
kind of thing. And there were some really great things that I learned by studying and geeking
out on deuterium. And it's really coming in handy in my understanding of hydration and water
itself. And which is one of the things I do want to this is all kind of ties in together
the deuterium people who are I think the only ones in the country who can actually test
your levels of deuterium, which of course I did. And so once I got deeper into it, you know, there
were so many little gems in there that made so much sense. But it is an expensive thing. And
there are natural ways of depleting deuterium. But if you're really like I would only send
somebody who has like, you know, major cancer and has only very little time to live, or like
they're about to kick it. So then you do want to buy that expensive deuterium depleted water and
drink it. So, okay, first, let's just get people to understand what is deuterium.
Okay, so we have, we have hydrogen, which we're very familiar with, right, as in H2O.
Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen. It is basically I think of deuterium as hydrogen's
dark brother, heavier brother. Deuterium has like a regular hydrogen just has a
one electron and a proton. And the deuterium has electron proton and a neutron, so which makes it
twice as heavy. So you can create H2O, which with regular hydrogen, or you can create the D2O.
I don't know, I'm not sure about the use. There's another term for but it gets too
complicated. But basically, it's still water looks like water smells like water acts like water,
but it's heavy water. So in nature, and in all pretty much all groundwater and air, the there's
about 155 deuteriums per million hydrogens. So these deuteriums they can they can this is
geeking out a little bit, but but they can combine with oxygen and create water in your body. So
basically hydrogen and oxygen make water. So depending on if you are exposed to very high
levels of high deuterium water, which all of us pretty much are, or if you're living in a coastal
city, you have higher levels of deuterium in the air from the ocean because the ocean I think has
one of the highest generally somewhere around 160 parts per million in ocean water. And like
regular tap water is around 150, it's pretty high, it's you know, and any kind of industrialization
and all of that. Like that's the problem with processed food that I realize that it's not just that
it's that nothing wrong with processing, but they get processed with very high deuterium water.
So it raises the level of deuterium of the food same thing GMOs or any kind of medical
prescription drugs, poisons basically tend to be very, very high deuterium. So there is some
you know, little connections to what we're doing now. So also the bonds between the way deuterium
bonds with oxygen is a much stickier, stronger bond than the way hydrogen bonds with it and it's
much harder to unbound it. So what happens is that as we drink or eat or breathe these very
high levels of deuterium, we they end up kind of going into the mitochondrial nanomotors
and because they're bigger and heavier, they can kind of like stop them, you know. So
basically create cell, the metabolism starts to go kaput. And so you get all these,
you know, of course, every person will tie every disease in the world to their theory,
you know. So they felt that that's the cause of all autoimmune and obesity and all metabolic type
diseases, diabetes, that kind of stuff. But I think they had a point and I think it is useful as a
kind of like the way that thing that we're not allowed to name with the three letters,
the way that that thing helps people. What did Garrett say? We can say the letter before it
or the letter after it. Yeah, rhymes with schmoring rioxide. Yeah, there you go.
So, you know, it's good for an emergency, but it's much better to do things slow and easy.
So you can slowly, if you're basically functional, and let's say you have a high
deuterium level, which I did, you can slowly work on bringing it down. And there are many
techniques to to bringing it down. There's just so many interesting things about deuterium. For
example, deuterium is necessary for growth. It is necessary to make things grow. So
when a woman is pregnant, and a baby is way higher in deuterium, but it really works for it
because it's growing, right? But of course, once you're fully grown after you're 20 or whatever,
then deuterium can still make you grow, but more like your waistline will grow,
or things will grow that aren't supposed to be growing. So there's many, I mean,
yeah, you could geek out deeply into the breast milk and all that kind of stuff, but I'm going to
not go there. What? Oh, it's exactly what I was going to say. Just add in that. That's why
drinking dairy products or eating dairy products can be a problem because it has growth factors
in there. And as adults, we don't want growth because it's like you said, it's going to be
like out in the wrong direction or, you know, mess up your finger or something like that. Yeah,
there's, you don't want to grow when you're older, right? Once you've achieved the, you know, the
height and the, you know, whatever your genetics tell you, you should be then, okay. So let's see,
what else about, so there's ways of lowering the deuterium in your body. And one of them is
the butaiko breathing technique. So it ties into that. Okay, can we cover that one last? Because
I'd like to stay on this just a second. I'm not transitioning. There's, okay, so for example,
deuterium, regular boiling point of water is 212 degrees. Deuterium, heavy water, basically,
heavy water. So you have light water and heavy water. Heavy water is like 214, so it has a higher
boiling point. The freezing point of water is 32 or zero in centigrade. And for deuterium, it's
something like 38 or 34 or something higher. It's higher. So it freezes faster? Yeah, yeah. So you
can, for example, if you have make an ice cube from heavy water, and usually ice will float,
this ice will not float, it will sink. Right. And isn't that also one of the tests for
deuterium in water? Is that if you put regular ice in there, if the water's high in deuterium,
the ice will sink also? Or did I get that wrong? I'm not sure about that one. I'm only familiar.
You can test water, yes. I don't know how they test it. I'm familiar with how they test it in
your body, which is through your breath and through your saliva. Okay. So you can get a
sense of your levels of deuterium. So it's got all kinds of interesting properties,
and here's the thing. The reason that water is so expensive. The places when I first did this,
which was back in, I think, I don't know, 2011, no, no, before that 10, when I first was introduced
to it, I was getting the water from Hungary. So there's two places in Hungary and Romania,
and now there's apparently a place in, I think, Arizona. But I still think they ship it from there.
And the way that you make it, you need, and there's some people out there saying that they're
selling deuterium-depleting machines. They're not. They've removed maybe a 0.1,
but it's nothing to write home about. So if you really want to feel the effect, and you do,
when you drink deuterium-depleted water, your metabolism starts to really work better,
because the less heavy water you have in your system, the easier it is for your metabolism
to do what it's designed to do. And one of its designs is to make water. We make metabolic water
in our own body. So metabolic water is like, they call it pharmaceutical water, too,
is basically low deuterium or deuterium-depleted water. So the way they make these is that you
have these really gigantic, gigantic towers. And basically what it is, and this is a crazy thought,
and it's probably, I don't know if this is too controversial to mention, but you tell me.
If we understood the science and were open to it and were not completely brainwashed,
we would use all our nuclear plants to get cheap, cheap, free deuterium-depleted water
because the way they make nuclear energies, they take regular deuterium,
155 parts per million water, they suck out the deuteriums, so they deplete it of the deuteriums,
and then they take two deuteriums, they smash them together and create tritium.
So that's nuclear power, right? So there's tons of some actually really good water coming from
these places if we knew how to, you know, if people were like willing to even investigate this.
So in Europe, in Hungary, Romania, and I think also in Germany, they've been using this for
all that, and Ariens have been using it for like dog, dog, hearing dog cancer and things like that.
Just giving them deuterium-depleted water. So when I got it, it was pretty darn expensive,
you know, to have it shipped here from there, but I don't know how else to, because people would
say, oh no, you can create your own deuterium-depleted water by putting, you know, freezing some water
and then you take out the ice, you know, and that's how you know which is the deuterium
depleted, but you would end up, you'd have to have like the refrigerator the size of a house,
and it would take you, you know, days and days to get a little bit of it,
so they have a more sophisticated way of doing it, which I'm not sure what it is.
Anyway, so what else? So the...
Yeah, I was just gonna jump in if you don't mind.
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Yeah, the reactors, it's so interesting. They actually need heavy water.
That's, I'm just saying what you said for their process, so yeah, it would have been a natural
kind of place. Oh yeah, Cammy loves to discuss the fractures, that's different.
Okay, come back to that, Michelle. And so yeah, that would be interesting, and
what was I gonna say? Is it, when it comes to your health, what,
in terms of metabolism, did you notice anything or do you feel like it's more, yeah, you did?
Oh yeah. And is it more like a band-aid, like the...
Well, drinking the water is like a band-aid and then kind of an accelerator, you know,
but if you don't change anything in your life, you're just gonna keep having,
you know, you're gonna have to keep drinking that water.
Right, so it is more of a band-aid.
Well, but you know, a band-aid can be a really helpful thing if you're feeling really bad
and you're at least need more time to figure out what to do, but not for the rest of your life,
right? Yeah, I'm not putting band-aids down, but it's a good category to have
when you see that, like, one is actually curative in going to the root source,
and then these things typically are more like band-aids where they can get you through
tough times. And they can, you know, I mean, for me at least so far, this low toxin diet
is the only one that feels like it's sustainable, and thank God I don't need a band-aid,
you know, but because my body's still functioning well, so I can do it, you know,
the slow and easy way. But I definitely, I was in a lot of trouble. I mean, I was having all
kinds of symptoms that were scaring the bejesus out of me, and this definitely calmed that down
and gave me, bought me more time to figure things out, and at least got me into the breathing technique
and got me aware of, you know, that, oh, so when we eat food, our body takes the hydrogen from
the food and the oxygen from the air, and together we make our own internal clean water, you know,
our inner waters are more pristine than the ones that we're, you know, showering with.
They have to be, right? So I really appreciated that, and I also saw how it does
your metabolism, you know, it's like when you have a lot of poisons in there, it has to speed up,
it has to do all kinds of things to try to process that and get them out.
And is it not the other way around, though, when there's a massive toxic load,
that it actually slows the whole metabolism down?
Yeah, yeah, which is, which is, that's the paradox, you know, it's just like putting your
foot on the brake and accelerating at the same time, you know, if you keep taking the poisons,
yeah, you'll get to that point of shutdown. But if you're still like a child, you know,
whose energy, the moment you put something bad in its body, it will try to throw it up
immediately. You know, so if you're still have enough of that vitality, if you're more
on the side of life, then you will probably be speeding up, you know, which I experienced
now very clearly. And it's not a mystery to me anymore. Like I couldn't understand why didn't
my heart rate go up after I ate? It was what I was eating, you know, what I thought was
was this great nourishing meal of
phenols and, you know, great good fats and all of that. And that's the only thing that I
am not in agreement with the people who talk about the Turin-depleted diet, because they are
huge proponents of high fat. And because it, yeah, it helps. Yeah, it makes you feel better.
But I don't think they've done any deep enough research on that. And I'm grateful that I now
have a, you know, more wider understanding through the toxic vial paradigm of what that is
actually doing. Right on. Can I jump in here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, please do. Just on the
subject, this is something I want to show from the rooftops all the time that
99.9% of the time that I eat, I feel good after. And yesterday was one of the, the 0.01% because
I had a little birthday party for my son and we ate pot stickers and pierogies and some New
York Slays and donuts and stuff like that. And not huge amounts of it, but actually pretty
modest amounts on my part. And then after I get this little like, oh, nausea, oh, some vial backing
up. Who wants charcoal? So I run, we all have a glass of charcoal and then it's completely gone.
That's like a Band-Aid in that case, right? I took poison and it's what Dr. Smith calls the
charcoal sandwich, you know. So I did the same thing recently and I made it myself. I made
like an apple crumble, which required some butter. That was the main thing, but it was just apples,
butter and, and wheat. And I calculated how much of the butter was per each slice, you know.
And I, and I use xylitol too. It was really delicious, but I forgot about the charcoal.
And because I'm not, my body's not craving butter anymore, or I'm not eating it like I
used to, of course. Oh my God, I used to eat tons of it. And I noticed like, oh wow, I feel,
is this nausea that I feel? I was like, oh my God, I'm so not used to that. Like you,
every meal I could easily go and walk and run and do something after that never feels like,
oh, I just ate, you know, oh, I can't, I have to wait until I digest, you know. And so
I was like, oh, then I took the charcoal afterwards, you know, and it helped. It helped.
But I was like, wow, man, it's like, what a, what a responsive instrument that's now talking to me.
And I'm listening. I'm not chucking it off to like, oh, well, it's just because it was so cold
outside or because I had this emotional thing I was going through, you know. Yeah, yeah, thanks,
thanks for, for bringing that, bringing that in. Yeah, so then,
do you want to talk about hydrogen gas or is there more on deuterium that you want to?
No, I don't want to, hydrogen gas, I mean, I want to talk about hydrogen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you talk about hydrogen gas. Yeah, because I breathe that stuff for almost a year and,
and pretty, you know, give it a real college try, kind of like you do when you approach modalities,
you really go for it. And I would say nine, 10 months into it, I had a complete breakdown of my
digestive system. You guys have heard me talk about that before, but it was like over. I didn't
digest food for about 90 days or more after that. Wow. And I was still in this belief that
the Brown's gas was good for me. But I noticed, and I've had this happen before where,
you know, I go to grab the nozzle thing to give my gas myself up and, and my hands going, no,
like my, I'm actually, don't, don't, and then there's like, oh yeah, it feels better if I push
the machine over there and oh, it feels even better when I put it in the closet away from here.
And I just instinctively knew some people might have used that time to go harder on it.
And what, what I became aware of is that, first of all, hydrogen is an antioxidant.
So it works against your detox pathways that are oxidative, right? So the reason that people
feel good, and this is inevitably, it's a typical duration paradox kind of thing,
where at the beginning you get what feel to be like, wow, results, you get heightened energy,
you get, you feel high, you feel, you know, why? Because you're not detoxing on
at nearly any level anymore, depending on how much you do it. So I, yeah, when I heard that it was
an antioxidant, it's, again, hydrogen gas is a band-aid. It's not curative like the claims
are made. And I'm sorry, and there were times where I was even myself, and you know,
you might see old videos with an affiliate link to hydrogen gas machine. I'm not going to go through
and try to comb out all of that stuff. But just for the record, it's, I don't recommend it anymore.
I really love the creator. He's amazing. And he's a member around my parts and stuff like
that. Well, not my parts, my house of free will. So I'm really weird, not that, not that.
You know, so love the guy, but I can't get behind the hydrogen gas anymore. And it was pretty evident
that people ended up on it all the time, like all night, all day, all everything. And what happens
when you start to come off of it is that you don't feel good. Right. You know, I can add to that
story because I did never got the machine, but I got two big ass boxes of these hydrogen.
They're like in pill form, right? And you stick them in your water and you close the bottle tight,
you wait for it to do, and then you drink it, right? And I spent some money on that. That was
around, I think that was before I did the low deuterium. And something in me, I mean, I just
recently, just finally, and this was, I had them now for maybe 15 years or something.
I finally too big, I was like, I can't throw this away. You know, everything in me, every time
I did it, I was like, I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. And I put them in the back and the
back of the closet. And finally, I was like, I need room in this closet. And I finally threw
them away. But it was the same kind of like, it just didn't, you know, the same way like
with, I had vitamin A in a little bottle I bought once. And it took me, I think like,
maybe 12 years to even finish it. Because every time I take one, I'd be like, I had no idea why,
right? But of course, I was sucking down the vitamin A with all the eggs and the dairy. And,
you know, but when it was in that pill form, something in me was not, yeah,
that's powerful that you were able to, you know, feel into that even after doing it.
And still believing it. Yeah, it's kind of what you said at the beginning that our bodies
have, well, maybe you didn't say this, but to add on to what you said is that there isn't innate
intelligence. I was in India and they had sent me with malaria pills. It's called
mefloquin, I believe. And I would, religiously at that time, you know, I got all the vaccines
and I'm religiously taking all the pills and I've got a pill one morning and I'm putting
go to put it in my mouth and I'm doing this kind of like, it's not going, doesn't want to go.
And it taught me, it's like, I think I'm not taking that anymore. I just, I put it down and
they went, hmm, okay, all right. And I actually started to improve after that. Of course, I had
been sick with everything. Yeah. Speaking of that, when I was 14, 13, 14, in sixth grade,
my best friend passed away from leukemia. Suddenly, beautiful, vibrant young woman.
And I, being a nerd already back then, I took my mother's medical drug book, right? I had the
encyclopedia and I looked up, you know, possible causes of, of leukemia. And what I found there
was malaria pills. And I'm going malaria pills, but why would, and then I asked her parents if
she's ever, and they're like, oh, yes, we lived in South Africa and we took them every day.
So, you know, even at that age, I, something told me that this was not natural, you know,
and, and people just kind of write it off, you know, the hydrochloric when, when, you know,
basically they're saying, oh, no problem. It's, it's been around for so long. So of course,
it's harmless, just like I've remefted. Are we allowed to say that or no?
I think so. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't been killed for that one.
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But wow, that's amazing that I just love hearing your, you know, that,
that you, that your, your, you know, the, the, the, the animal in your body, you know, the,
the deep with them, just, just the, like the hand, you know, you're doing it to yourself.
Exactly. The hand and the hand.
Yeah, little inner conflict going on there, but, but my body won. It was, it was great. I was like,
okay, all right, okay, you're telling me, give me a sign. So yeah, that's, that's one thing. And
so let's see where I wanted to add frequency devices to our list of things.
Oh, okay.
If you want to talk about Buteco first since you've been, you've been jumping at the
bit for that for a few minutes.
Well, because, because that's related to the, to the lowering the deuterium. That's one way we
do lower our deuterium is by exhaling. It's our exhale that can get some of that heavy
stuff out of our system. So part of the deuterium lowering deuterium procedure is to do all these
things to, like for example, my mask. This is a, you can sleep with this mask or have it on during the
day. Basically what it does is it raises your CO2 just a little bit because the whole premise,
and I think this is beyond deuterium, this is our everyday life, we are over breathing.
We are basically hyperventilating. And there's research that talks about how in the last 100 years
that has increased that people are breathing more breaths per minute than they used to.
And there's a lot of reasons why we could be doing that. I mean, of course we have all the,
all the electronics that put the animal in our body into fight or flight, even though our ears
don't hear the frequencies of the EMFs and our phones and our Wi-Fi, but the nervous system,
which is the animal in our body, can feel and hear it's affecting it. So you could be zenned out
going, yes, I'm so calm and at peace, but your body's going, ah, ah, you know, well, you know,
or walking into a city or through a city, you're being bombarded. It's like an attack
on the nervous system. So when that happens, we start to hyperventilate. And when we're breathing too
much, get too much oxygen, it constricts our vessels. So the actual oxygen can't get to
where it's supposed to get to, because it's our hemoglobin that delivers, that carries the
oxygen, right? So if, if we have so much of it, we can never release it from the hemoglobin.
We need a certain level of CO2 so that the oxygen will be released and go into the tissues.
So a lot of people are basically CO2 deprived, and which is what, when you sleep with this mask,
or you have around for a while, you start to recirculate and you start to raise your
CO2 a little bit so you can actually use the oxygen. So you're really changing your metabolism
by doing that. And the other thing that you're doing, like, let's say if you sleep with this,
normally you're inhaling deuterium, high deuterium air, but you know, every city has
different levels of deuterium, you know, depending on how close you are to the ocean.
But so when you're breathing with this mask, I mean, it feels, you feel like dark, but what happens is
that you're actually lowering, you're exhaling some of the lower deuterium and you keep
re-inhaling it so you're breathing lower deuterium air by sleeping with this.
And the way you can tell if you're progressing with lowering, depleting your deuterium, or basically
just getting better health and improving your metabolism is you do a little test which is
called a control pause. And I think Garrett had a wonderful woman, I forget her name, Ronda
something. Ronda Holman. Yeah, she talked about that. And I've used that as a test for a long
time. And it's so helpful because it's so easy to do. And especially during the morning control pause,
like when before you start moving around and doing stuff, that way you could tell
how have you been using your oxygen while you were sleeping. So it's very... What is the test
then? Yeah, I'll tell you. I'm going to tell you. All right. It's a fun test. Basically,
what you do is you... Okay. So just like butteco nose breathing, that's the first premise. You're
breathing through your nose, not through your mouth. And if you look at nature, animals only
open their mouths and breathe through their mouths when they're eating, drinking or dying,
or think they're going to die. But look at us, especially people who let's say talk a lot.
That's another way to destroy your metabolism. If you're talking too much, it's another way to
hyperventilate, basically, because your mouth is open as you're talking. So the way you do it is
you... The butteco breathing, the main signature of it is breathing so gently through your nose
that not even the hairs in your nose are hardly moving, that it's such a quiet, gentle breath.
And I saw this in full action while I lived in Topanga in Los Angeles. And there was a mountain
line who came and sat in front of my window, which was at ground level. And because I was
always cooking some meat, so it always just sit there. And the way that mountain line came
and sat in front of me, it sat down in the sun. And it was alive, but it was hardly moving as it
was breathing. There was no strain. It was this like... And I was watching this going, so that's
what butteco is talking about. When you're at rest to breathe so gently that nothing is...
There's no... You're not chest breathing, that it's just stomach breathing, gentle,
quiet stomach breathing. So the way you do this test is you just... First, you just experience
what it's like to just breathe without your chest or neck being engaged. And just from your belly,
quiet, no emergency, you know, what it feels like. So you take one or two quiet breaths
and then you, on your normal exhale, after that quiet breath, you hold your nose
and you count or you have a little clock. I just do one Mississippi, two Mississippi kind of thing.
And you see how many seconds you can hold your nose until you feel air hunger.
Just the beginnings of air hunger. For some people it may be their belly
or their diaphragm will start to spasm. So it's a breath retention then?
Well, yes, but it's really important that when you do this that this is not a contest.
No, I get it. I get it. Yeah, yeah. So that is what I wanted to know just about what was the
test of the... You said it was like testing your CO2 or something like that. It sounds like
a breath exercise. Well, it's not an exercise. This is a way to monitor like people who are
on the Love Your Liver program. They can monitor month by month to see how well they're doing
by seeing how... So this is just one more thing. How long they can hold their breath for.
But here's a really, really important distinction that you hold your nose and you wait until
you have air hunger and then you let go of your nose and then the next breath you take
should just be as gentle as the one you started with. So in other words, you shouldn't be
then going suddenly inhaling. It should be so that you just... When you feel that like,
okay, I now really need to inhale like that air hunger, then that's when you cut it off.
So in other words, you count from... And in the beginning, I could only do it for like 12 seconds.
Okay. Yeah. So this is breath retention then, right?
It's holding the breath in. It's holding the breath on and on and exhale.
Okay. So that's not retention. Yeah, that's the other... This is very... Yeah. Yeah. So this is...
Yeah. So Rhonda talked about this a little bit. She talked about the...
actually increasing your tolerance to CO2 as part of that technique.
Yeah. I mean, that's a one way to put it. I just look at it like,
you know, just checking in to see how well you can balance how calm can you get. Because if you
do have a slightly increased CO2, then your vessels can dilate and also your nitric oxide
is made through the nose because your nitric oxide is made in your nasal cavity
and in other parts of the body. But if you're breathing through your nose, you're getting
that nitric oxide, which you don't have to do freaking beet juice to do it. You know,
like everybody's selling all their beet powders. So this is just... If you do do this tomorrow
morning when you wake up or anytime during the day, just remember that it's not about
how long you can hold your breath because you could probably go on for a long time. But then
when you inhale, it would be like gasp. It's how long you can comfortably hold.
How long you can comfortably hold. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I did a lot of pranayama in India
and if you take it in any kind of competitive way, then you're going to suffer immediately.
It's not very pleasant at all. Yeah. It's not a sport, nothing to be forced in that regard.
It actually will feed nicely into talking about frequencies, I think, because I say as part of
Creator Code, there is one module on somatics on the body, which includes the body and the breath
and the nervous system and the spine and that kind of thing. And it's interesting because I
was thinking about this last night, I was writing a little bit about it, that the breath techniques
are on the one hand, there's a lot of different uses for them. On the one hand, they can be a way
to raise frequency, to raise your energy as a kind of like system hack, where your energy,
if it's low, you do certain kind of breathing to raise your energy. Or if your energy is high,
too high, and you're all wired, then you do certain kind of breathing to bring it down.
And so it's more of a manipulation in that respect, but I don't hear that that's what
this is. This is a completely different thing. And so say some people would approach the breath
like, oh, I'm so enlightened now, I did all this breath work, and I feel like I'm in a
trance and an altered state of some kind. And that does happen. I've been part of all kinds
of breathing things. Did I just talk about this maybe on a podcast or something like that?
We did an event in 2020, when we were all clandestine, we had to sneak to this event,
to somebody's house and drive in through the garage. So they wouldn't, the neighbors wouldn't
see and call us out. And it was something, I can't remember the name of it, but like
really intense, strong breath work that basically resulted in a whole group of people
screaming and crying for quite a while. Like it was, it was kind of off the charts like that.
That's not my gem, I have to say at all, if that's not something like I never went back,
I never, I never even tried it again, literally. And so it's easy, just from,
just from my perspective, it's easy to think about breath techniques as curative
for what ails the mind, the heart, the emotions and that kind of thing. It's not,
it's just not. Yes, it's a tool to, it's sort of like, you know, using the
CDS or the Deuterium Depleted Water or Vitamin C or something, it's a hack.
But on the side of the CO2 and what could be, what you're saying could be actually a
CO2 deficiency, then that this is something completely different. So then that's cool.
Well, you know how everybody's always telling you when you're, when you're upset or something,
just take a deep breath. It's exactly the opposite. When you're panicking and nervous.
No, don't take a, the same thing with yawning, people say, oh, yawning is good. No, we all know
intuitively that yawning, I don't, I feel like if you feel like yawning, then gentle breathe
and get yourself back in there because it's, there's so much transmission of an energetic
of what a yawn means when we interpret it in many ways, interesting ways. You know,
if you're talking and you started yawning now, I'd be like, oh, she bored or she thinking about
something else is she, you know, it doesn't seem like I, anyway, forget that. That's just my,
it's hard to say with that one, Dagmar, because I have clients that release and yawn
and not everybody does it. It's, it doesn't happen for me, but literally every single
time they let a program go, they yawn and I've seen it the exact other way around where the
yawn is actually resistance to the release. You know, so you, I'm learning to less and
less to say, you know, one thing means one thing. Yeah. And then what's the context of it? And,
and you know, I get the gentle breathing, but there's some, there's something weird happening
in the breath world because it's almost like it's been a little infiltrated and you get
there's so much conflicting information. And this is one thing I tried to, I tried to nail
a bunch of teachers down in India and, and ask them very direct questions. And I wanted,
I wanted straight answers and they wouldn't give them. And I think this is part of why
that there's, you know, it's not like, is this food good or is this food bad? There's,
there's a relationship to your breath in that moment that is going to be appropriate.
And there are times, you know, like I'm, I'm personally, I'm a champ at holding my breath out.
This is something I, I trained myself to do. I can go a long time without breathing
and, and, and then there's been, you know, times where I've really benefited from,
from a full breath. That belly breathing thing, I think is a little bit,
if I say a dramatic word, Psiopt, too. I don't, I don't think that that's the thing,
but since I discovered to breathe instead of out to breathe down, this has been, then
like it's my, my osteopath was saying, oh my goodness, you have a powerful diaphragm.
And then even down, I think that's slightly Psiopt, because honestly, we breathe in six directions.
Yeah, I think, I think what you're saying is very profound. And let's just say it right here,
right now, as you're bringing it in, that absolutely it is, you know, you could say Psiopt,
or you could just say it's Psiopt by us, you know, when we get attached to one thing,
because like you started with what you said in the beginning, how you go into a rhythm
and you're speeding and then you're slowing, it's the same thing. Like I'm saying but take a breathing
for people who are hyperventilated, you know, just so you have access to both. Now, for example,
I also did holotropic breathing, which is, yeah, holotropic breathing, which is extreme
hyperventilation. And it was powerful. I went back to, you know, one time, no, two times I did it,
but each time I went back to being like an amoeba, I went, you know, and I had somebody sitting
with me and it was all, it was basically like, you know, doing ayahuasca without the drug.
So, so I, you know, if I look at, you know, what do I prefer, I prefer to do that.
And also I've done the Wim Hof breathing and there's a time when, yeah, I want to do that. Or like,
what's his name, Joe Dispenza, which he does kind of a Wim Hof-ish type breathing, where you get to
experience how much can happen without breath and the power and the discipline of that. So,
there's a place for all of it, but I really do think that for most of the way the world is,
most people are deficient in the quiet breath, you know, because I think we can access, you know, I
mean, I mean, if you're engaged in any kind of passion, you're probably having some, you know,
heavy hyperventilating going on. Even though I highly recommend always keeping your tongue on
your upper palate and trying to close your mouth. When you're in a moment of passion,
don't let it all be, you know, it does something else to how the energy circulates.
But I think this is really good what you're saying, but I'm so grateful that you're
pulling it into that, you know, that you keep checking, you know, that it doesn't become one
or the other. Because there is a place for all of this. And nobody can know except the person
themselves. But to have access to somehow have, like, like as an actor, you train to go to the edge
of every emotion. But doesn't mean that you go there all the time, but that you have the road
that you've created a pathway, or for, you know, the work that you do, you're open up a certain
access to an archetype. So now it's available to you. And you're aware of it, you know.
So I think that there's a there's a place for everyone at the table.
Nice. Yeah, I like that. Lots of nuance.
So you were going to talk about maybe frequency devices. Did you let's see, there was one last,
you know, what can can you explain to me one last thing before we go and move on here around.
So as soon as I heard Rhonda talk about the tongue on the top of the front, the mouth,
and I heard it properly, because I've heard that a lot of years already. But for me, it was always,
yeah, my tongue's on the top of my mouth, because I almost always have the tip of my tongue
on the top of my mouth, literally. But there's this big, like, it's hollow, exactly. And I
was watching how even how I was doing breath exercises that I've been doing for a long time
now with a lot of habit. And it was with this hollow tongue. And so now I've been learning.
And at first it was hard. It was like, I can't even quite feel there was some kind of connection
not going there, even though I was doing it. So now after I don't know what has been three
weeks or something since Rhonda been on Garrett show. And so it's a much more habit.
I do seem to wake up with my tongue on the roof of my mouth. And at first it was annoying,
because it's all I could pay attention to. And, you know, like just always aware of it.
Looking at myself in the mirror with my tongue hanging in my tongue on my roof of my mouth.
So what is what is happening? What are the mechanics of of doing that? What are the advantages?
Well, to me, my experience of it is that it feels like I'm plugged in. And there's like a comfort,
there's a sense of calm when the tongue is, I guess, resting up there and behind like it's holding up,
like it's keeping the breathing of my skull bones going right, you know, like having it there,
like so that your your your palate doesn't collapse, which I guess that's what aging is,
you know, we start to we start to the bone structure starts to collapse.
So for me, it's it's a combination of, I guess, I feel like it's related to the fascia to the
lymph, to all of that, you know, that it's that it's kind of part of the, the whatever it is that
holds our keeps our structure, you know, that that's part of the integrity of the structure,
and that the tongue has, I'm sure, a lot of deep psychological aspects connected to it, you know,
tasting being tasting the world life, speaking, there's just so many important things that happen
in this part of our, I mean, a lot goes on in our head and face, my God, you know, all these
things like I'm breaking out now, you know, like my brain is trying to be clean. So it's
do using my face to clean itself out like woohoo. I'm more than ever aware, I'm sure it's been
happening the whole time along, but of my brain detoxing, and and it loves the face, the eyes,
the nose, the ears, everything is like the ears. Exactly. It's all a path out. I know it's like
when I'm sniffling and blowing my nose and stuff, and I'm telling people this is a great way to live,
you should try this. I know, I know it's stupid if I count the the Kleenex boxes in my house,
there's probably seven at a time, and a garbage can to go along with it. So yeah, I'm kind of a
nerd there. But it's better than, than cancer. Yeah, yeah, totally. I know exactly clean
that stuff out. The mouth open is so interesting. I saw a video of somebody yesterday and and they
I think they won a prize and their mouth was open like this. And it gives you this automatic
impression that they're not intelligent. Now, I know that could be completely wrong. I don't
know that guy. No, but that's that's the whole the box, the Xbox or you know, archetype
or stereotype, I guess I should say. But yeah, I mean, it's like you don't feel attracted to
to a man who's going around or a woman who that's why women who talk a lot can sometimes not be as
attractive as women who can like, you know, shut it, because that mouth open mouth open. And
when our mouth is open, we're much more in emergency, more self self referenced. It's
all about worry about me. Am I going to be okay? Who's trying to attack me? What's happening?
The world is dangerous. Oh my God, I'm going to die. Oh, no, I can't eat that. That's terrible.
Oh, no, this person is trying to do this to me. Oh, no. And I need this and I don't have that,
you know, it's it. Yeah. It's yeah, not fun. Yeah. Yeah. Quick tangent. I remember
hearing on a podcast that men don't want to be with women who have a public life. And I
wonder if that's part of it around because you know, they're speaking all the time and it's not
exactly the the feminine thing whole other topic. We won't maybe. Okay. Since I brought it up. If
you want to say anything, go ahead. Wow. That's that's interesting that. Yeah. But I would say
maybe generally men, but I bet there are men who find it refreshing as long as one of the
things that drives me nuts is when people are in a relationship and they start talking about their
relationship in public. And that's it. That that I know that turn, you know, if a man starts talking
about his wife or some, you know, what do you call those guys who do the tantric guys talking
about like my wife when she and when I do the it's like, no, no, that's, that's breaking.
That's that's not keeping the intimacy sacred. Yeah, I think that's their biggest fear of losing
privacy. And that that if a woman is public, that they're going to turn on them and use their
Instagram to, I don't know, shame them or something like that. Just not elegant. It's not,
I don't know, it's disrespectful in a way. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's gross, right. And I
even as a viewer, I don't want to see other people doing that either. I will turn away
if you if you're going to get like that in public, I'm not going to tune in.
I have seen so many couples who do like, you know, public counseling, like, you know,
and they work together. And I have seen they all went to shit, because they're trying to make
themselves the example of like the good relationship. And they all end up going like,
you can't do a good relationship in public. No, you know, it has to be absolutely private
and and it's sacred, you know, it's exactly. Yeah, it's like, it's like doing a good birth in in
public that it's not it's not a performance or it's the most private thing you can possibly even
imagine. So yeah. Yeah, Michelle said before we get too far that plants in the home impact
your breath. What do you what's your take on that, Dagmar? Do you have any?
Yeah, I mean, it depends what kind of plants, you know, if they're the right ones for you,
are they clink some plants, clean the air? You know, they do release some carbon dioxide.
So, you know, maybe maybe that. But I think the most important thing is, you know, how you
with or without plants, can you can you change your metabolism by breathing and and also just
to add to that. So you can kind of see if you keep gaining seconds on your control pause,
you're going in the right direction, you can and sense you can, you know,
I mean, going from 12 was not that hard to keep moving on up. But I could tell every time I'm
bio dumping, I suddenly can only hold my breath for like, calmly for 27 seconds. But when I'm not
bio dumping, I can hold it sometimes for 50 seconds. Wow. You know, and that's how I know which way I'm
going. It kind of gives me a private way without one of those freaking out type tests, you know,
where you're just checking your blood pressure or your heart rate. This is just a really gentle
way of especially if you just do it in the morning, when you're still laying in bed before
you start moving around, and you're still relaxed, you get to see like, oh, good,
you can see like, oh, what I ate yesterday worked. Or it worked, but I'm still dumping, you know.
Very cool. Yeah, I like the plants thing. I never consider whether they're
the right ones for me or not. It's I think it's the other way around. They're deciding if I'm
good for them. And I like them. It's I mean, it's beautiful and it creates humidity in a
very dry winter, stupid dry winter here. And yeah, it seems to be good. It seems to be good.
I don't know that it would be bad for plants are ruling the world pretty well. They really are.
Yeah. We don't know it, but they are the, they are the masters of the world, you know. Yeah.
Yeah. All the latest, you know, bio weapons, you know, they're the ones who got all the
poison darts, you know, and then we we ingest their weapons. I mean, how cool is that for them?
You know, they they're pretty triumphant, and they're so sneaky and stealthy and incorporated
themselves into our all many cultures, you know, different cultures have different plant weapons
that they use for. I mean, it's, you know, something to learn about the art of warfare
from them, infiltrate, infiltrate the enemy, get them to die as quickly as possible and donate
all their cells to us by putting them in the ground so we can be nourished.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's my least favorite thing when you get really romantic herbalists.
And they're like, Oh, they want us to have it. They want us to consume it wants to be
eaten. Like there's just personifying that. And I'm pretty sure it's the other way around
that we are here for plants. So I just wanted to say hello to Mr. Thunder chicken. That's really cool.
And true beating being beautiful has a little to do with how you look, although it's fascinating
because good health causes greater beauty. I've noticed that that it causes greater symmetry
and promotes good bone structure. Like we were talking about the tongue also that it's the
face literally collapses in without support the support of the tongue. That's that's what you were
describing, right? Dagmar. Yeah. Yeah. And that's that's like the whole face, the cavities
are the space is as much you as your flesh and your bones are right. So if cavities
get smaller and there's less room for air and expansion and openness and and support for a
bone structure, then the bones are going to do this around it. Well, and the fascia, I mean,
okay, the fascia on the limb again back to water. I mean, it's about 90 to 96%
lymph is is water. So you want that good water. Oh, there's one thing I did want to talk about
I completely forgot is a fantastic book called You're not sick, you're thirsty.
And it's written by an Iranian doctor, Dr. Batman Jali. And he discovered this when he was a political
prisoner for a really long time, I forget, like a decade or something. And he basically cured
prisoners from all kinds of diseases, just by making them drink tap water,
shitwater, you know, from from headaches to diabetes to. So this was one of my kind of,
you know, I guess it would be liquid diet discoveries. Way back in 2004, when I when I read
his book, at that time, I had to see a chiropractor once or twice a week, because every time I
turned my neck, I'd hear crunching. And my joints were constantly crackling,
snapping. And, and, you know, my back would be popping. And, you know, he said that it's just
the way it's going to be because I had military neck or something. And that's how it's going to be.
And when I started hydrating, that's when I realized like, Oh, I haven't really been
drinking. And I started drinking basically a gallon, four quarts, three to four quarts of
water a day. And I literally, you know, rehydrated my discs, because discs, you know, is again,
like 99% water. And they're in between the bones and they hold up their cushions, you know,
water cushions. And every time you walk, you press and some of the water gets maybe
squeezed out, especially if you're dehydrated, that's one place your body's going to try to
get water from. So what I learned in that, and it's a great little book, is that basically,
when you're dehydrated, your body, it's the same as EMFs. The animal in your body feels like it's
an emergency. You put you go into fight or flight. And if you get to the point of a headache,
that means you're already way past that. Right. So I literally rehydrated my discs and
now no, no cracking, no, no popping. And that's been now, you know, decades that I've been
doing that. And then I stopped for a while, I went only down to two liters. And then as I went on
this low, low toxin diet, I was also just doing two liters, because I was following
Agenis, Vonda planets thing, which is like, Oh, you don't need to drink water, you just need
fats. That's all you need. Just fats or tomatoes, eat tomatoes, they're going to hydrate you and drink
vegetable juice because it's the cleanest water there is. Of course, we know that that's not the
case. But so so the the water part is just such it's so simple, you know, and water has
anti-gravitational capacity, which is like, Hello, like, you know, a flower stem, you know, when it
goes down, you give it water, it stands right back up. So it's that called some osmotic pressure or
something like that. That's not quite it. But yeah, there's a specific term for what gives
a cell in a plant. It's erectness. Yes, that's another bad word. It's the same thing that
gives a man erectness. Like I've had male friends who completely cured their erectile dysfunction
by hydrating because they needed the fluids to rise. Right, right. Now, here's another subject.
It's just like breath, where it's it's become incredibly confusing for people. And and most
people that I know in in the circles that I was in, it was all the push to drink more water.
Well, I actually discovered by the time I'm in the love your liver program, I discovered I'm
drinking way too much water. And as a result, I'm stressing my kidneys out. So when I cut my water
from probably a gallon a day to about half of that, then or even less, I think I can I can
end up drinking. Is that true? I don't know, I'd have to go back and look at exactly
how much I'm drinking. But my energy shot right up when I got less water. Because it's not, you
know, it's like running the car in the garage when you're not going anywhere. And then why is
that engine still running? It's that's a different metaphor. But you know what I mean,
like, why are we running the car when we're not going anywhere? So this was one of the things I
appreciated so much about the love your liver thing is that he's talking about recipes,
whether it's bile recipes or the recipe. Now I actually, it's beautiful when I eat. I used to
have this rule that I don't drink when I eat because they taught us that that's going to
your digestive system, your digestive juices, and then you're not going to be digesting well.
And I like my son, he always would drink with his food. And I finally gave up and just like,
okay, all right, I'll just let you do that. And now I can tune into my body and it says,
okay, the food was great, but where's the water? I'm going to need some water with that
to digest that, right? Like absolutely everything that you put in your body requires water
to digest. So it's it's about finding your Goldilocks amount, what is what and your and your
water need is going to fluctuate to based on your toxicity, based on where you're at and
what you need to move out. And what you're putting what you're sweating out also makes
a big difference. Yeah, I was going to I was going to add to that. It's again, what we were
talking about with the breathing, you know, that there's a rhythm, a rhythm to it. But most people,
you're very unusual, most people air on the side of never having drunk enough, where if you've done,
you know, full gallon for a while, then you know what that feels like. One thing that I'll
add to the part of Dr. Manjali's thing, which has worked for me so far. So I'll just share it,
which is that you drink 20 minutes or so before you eat. And that the process that when you absorb
that water, it gets absorbed, but then it gets reabsorbed back into the stomach lining and provides
even more water that's needed to make the proper hydrochloric acid. So that the idea is to
drink before not during food, but right before and then wait about two hours after eating. But
that rule I've been doing that now for decades. And it really works well. Like if I do drink with
my food, I noticed that it does make me a little less digestive. But if it doesn't for you, then
great. You know, like it's like Garrett's Dr. Smith's work, it gives you that parameter
where you can actually watch your own pee. So you could see, you know, if it's really clear.
And but most people don't pee in a cup, I do. But most people will not like, you know,
check their pee in a cup, go, Oh, what color is it? But it's helpful if you can do that,
because that you can really see by, you know, going by the color, if it's too dark,
then you need more water. If it's too light, then you need less water. You know, exactly.
Yeah, I love that. That I got to a place where I was peeing clear constantly. So,
yeah, so that's what we were just talking about, Liam Monson 8827, that you really have to see
where you are at. There's no protocol for true health, zero protocol. And I, you know,
I'm really estimating, I'd have to go back and now and see what am I probably drinking
two quarts a day, I would say that's always accurate. It's still quite a bit. I'm amazed
how much water I go through, but that's what my body wants. And so yeah, you have to find your
exact amount. And the peak color helps, because just to repeat what Dagmar said, if it's gross and
stinky and dark, you are definitely dehydrated and hot, right? Like there would be concentration
of toxins in there and it won't feel good. And then the other way around is peeing clear,
which they always told us to do, right? Like that's all my natural health things,
peeing clear, apparently peeing clear. And that's, that's when you unfortunately are putting a lot
of stress on your kidneys. So you have to find your, your exact amount and it will be
different every day because you're different doing different things and eating different things.
Especially if you are on this program, you'll find that sometimes you suddenly start copper
dumping and you get very, very acidic. And so then the extra water helps to
not burn your tissues as it's coming out. So, you know, but then if you don't know that,
then you may just go through the pain and the burn and you end up with UTIs and
various other burning type things. But if you just can drink the water, and of course,
you can always do charcoal too. But when you drink, when you eat charcoal, you actually
have to drink even more because it's very absorbent. So, you know, your body needs
to be hydrated and, and like the Dr. Batman Jalee said, you know, it'll get it wherever it can.
First, it'll go for the joints, then it'll try to pull it out of your skin just to keep the,
the water volume going. And then you don't want it going to your brain,
taking the water out of there. But the body has to triage, which is an emergency.
It has to triage. Go let's see, well, let's take it out of the ovaries. She doesn't
need to reproduce anymore. Or let's take it out of the skin. Who cares how she looks? Oh,
even, you know, let's take it out of her joints. And so she limps for a while, but she'll be alive
because you need the, you know, the volume. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And, and your body
will make water too. But of course, that'll be expensive at a variety of levels. If you're
relying on that, I'm sure my son relied on that. It was hard to get him to drink water.
Well, the body should make a lot of water on its own. I forget what ridiculous amount
our mitochondria actually does make water. It does make metabolic water.
It must. Yeah. Yeah. But we're not, we're not primal man anymore roaming the fields and,
you know, under the sun and living naturally. We are living the most unnatural lives. So we
can't go like, oh, well, you know, we're not drinking the blood of the animal or, you know,
it's just the different way. And the atmosphere is probably way more moisture in the atmosphere
itself because, you know, electricity and all this dries out the air. I mean, we have dry air,
you know? And yeah, anyway, so you get, you get the idea.
Dry and getting drier. I was noticing all the chemtrails this morning. And now I know
a major component of that is calcium carbonate. And so that's really poisonous. If that team calcium,
if we had been cured by calcium, we'd all be cured because it's coming at us pretty much every single
day. Definitely a drying agent. And you can't talk about water without talking about electrolytes
that they really are necessary. This will change your relationship to water.
People say, well, you have to structure water and then you have to put minerals in the water
or your body can't relate to it. I think this is one place where the body is infinitely more
intelligent than we give it credit for. And, you know, I drink mostly distilled water with
nothing in it, although a glass of water with some potassium in the morning, probably one more
in the evening. I'll do that. But the majority of my water is just clean distilled,
untreated water, no frequencies, no nothing going on there. And I'm thriving. So, you know,
Garrett's been doing that for seven years now. Same thing. I don't think we lack the intelligence
that the body needs in order to structure water. I haven't seen anything die. All my plants
are thriving. My cats thrived, right? That you don't need a magic wand for your water as
far as I can tell. Yeah. Yeah. And just say what the electrolytes are for some people.
Does it just like a word that they put on, you know, Gatorade? Yeah, Gatorade has electrolytes,
but it'll have a bunch of crap in there that you don't want, including color and sugar and
probably some of the versions of electrolytes that you won't want to actually ingest
as well. And it's basically magnesium, potassium, sodium and calcium as well as on the list of
electrolytes. Although I don't feel any need to supplement with calcium in any way whatsoever.
I get small amounts in my food. I know it's not very much, but it seems to be enough.
And then the hard part with electrolytes is that individual non-protocol balance that everyone's
going to have to find that is a moving target. Like you said about dumping copper,
all of a sudden I need way more potassium every time I do that. I'll go from like the, you know,
one or two bananas and then I need five bananas a day instead. And then I'm like gobbling on.
I'm actually sprinkling potassium chloride on my food like it said. On my banana when I'm
copper dumping, I'm a potassium citrate sometimes on my banana. A double dose.
There you go. Yeah. So that's another modulating factor that you have to
continue to pay attention to as you go. And yeah, distilled water. I was so against at the beginning
and I'm seeing in the praises of spring water. Well, yeah, spring, they owe God's water. It's
water and nature and everything. And it's like, well, that water contains a lot of poisons
that once upon a time wouldn't be a factor for us at all. But now in a state of hypertoxicity that
the average human being is in and we are in a hypertoxic environment at many levels,
then I would rather get the clean water and not have to sort through. So I actually,
I take this beautiful local spring water that's gifted to me in exchange for a house of free
will membership and I distill it. And then I get to see all this stuff in there, which is
fascinating because it comes out like chalk, Dagmar. I think the level of calcium carbonate
in the spring water is off the charts. Yeah. Yeah. I take reverse osmosis water and then
I put it into my distiller. That way I never have to wash my distiller. Yeah.
There's some little thing that the reverse osmosis doesn't remove and there's some
little thing that the distilled water doesn't remove. So this way I cover my eccentric ass.
That's funny. Hilarious. Yeah, petalite brings back memories. I hear you. Or petalite. Yep.
Exactly. And yeah, so this whole structured water thing, I don't have a huge amount of
knowledge. I mean, it's true. If you have a fountain running beside the cat's
dish of stagnant water, that cat will drink up the fountain. Absolutely. I've seen that a lot
already. I even would test there would be a bowl of there just regular water, not like old and
yucky, but just still. And then I would put a vase with a stick of maybe one of this like
my tree branch or something like that. Well, they would drink out of that instead of the bowl.
Now, maybe it's because they're brats, but there was there's something to it moving
water compared to stagnant water. What do you think, Dagmar? Yeah, no, absolutely. But it's like,
you know, like we're not ancient primitive people anymore. And you have to think about
what are the pros and the cons? You know, yes, I feel that my this is my compromise
is that I'd rather drink the really distilled water, the cleanest water in terms of
crap being in it. And then I feel that just like our body makes metabolic water,
and if you're taking enough minerals and have access to them, the water has to structure
itself inside you, especially if you are making metabolic light water and aren't loading yourself
up with with with the deuteriums. So I'm sure that water coming from artesian well will be
structured and more beautiful. But it can also have so many things in there, whatever is living
in there is living off of what's in our, you know, in our atmosphere and is pooping in there,
or, you know, yeah, I mean, I know that that Lee talks about how he has the same water that
salamanders drink and they're, you know, they're part of that they're thriving in there.
But I'm not a salamander, you know, and they found a way to make their life work
so that they could survive. I feel like I have to find my human way so that I can survive.
Because I also was majorly I would travel long distances to get fresh spring water,
and supposed to be the best, the most pristine. But then when I did some testing on it, it was
like, holy crap, there's a lot of iron in it. It had all kinds of other things that were like,
I don't want this. Because, and this is one place where you the lowest deuterium water that
you can get is would be like glacial water that's that goes really, really, really high up. So it's
like, it's basically cleaning itself the same way that like the the the towers where they make this
water in Romania and Hungary. It's that same principle that if it's going up, up, up a long
way, it's removing the deuterium. So you could get like 90 maybe parts per million of deuterium
water if you're, but then you'd have to live on top of a glacier. I don't know, that's not going to,
I can't do that, right? Because most ground water is pretty high because, you know, and most
processed foods is made with with high deuterium water. So, right, right. And one more point
about the intelligence of our body that I think knows full well how to structure water.
And, you know, even us sitting here having a conversation in front of my glass of water
is influencing the water, right? So it's all it's not there's no such thing as the dead water.
There's we're in one field. Well, you know, of the vibrations are penetrating throughout the
entire system, water, weather, wet, all water. I don't care if it's distilled reverse
osmosis or spring or the water in your tears or your pee is it can hold memory. It's a creator.
I don't know if you've ever done any work with Veda Austin, but I've got my own little Petri dishes
and I've done, you know, freezing the water and looking what it shows me and all water is
freaking alive. And we are part of that because it's part of us, you know, like the idea that
that we were all at one point living in the water. So we basically just made took the water with us
and it's all inside us. You know, we are carrying the water and the water is communicating,
you know, this water is talking to me and it's full of this conversation.
And it's actually really enjoying it.
Tributing to water is creative, as you could see when you do Veda Austin's work,
like when I would give it certain suggestions, the creative way in which it would express that
and communicate with me is like, wow. So once you see that, you're like, come on, it's all alive.
You know, it's a big part of us, you know, and why I mean, I even did a tear once. I mean, wow,
what you see when you freeze it and then you take a picture of it and literally
you can you can see like it's like a painting. You know, I actually saw a painting of World War
II when I was I put a tear in there when I was when my mom passed away and I was just
feeling her so deeply and and I I was just I didn't know how to process my own my own grief.
And I saw it in the in the in the painting, I saw the tanks, I saw the guns, I saw the,
you know, I saw part of her that I just didn't know what to do with.
And it was very helpful for me to see it, you know, to not just have it be. So the water
was talking to me and very good, very good. Yep, bodily fluid, you know,
a whole sex act, you know, the moment you mix any bodily fluids with somebody,
you've got their ancestors in your life and they got yours.
Yeah, something, I don't know, there's something that I haven't quite figured out how to
articulate something. Again, back to the intelligence of our body and basic function
of minerals, they ionize with water, they just naturally do that. So I don't know,
I think there's just a lot of hype around structure and the technology around structure
and the devices and the things because it's one of those things that
made a good business, but it could be based on stuff.
And again, like what you were saying before about everything else, the breathing and all that,
like structured water, I have the device and I have many other devices that structure water
from different ones to frequencies to using the sun. Again, it's, it may be a good thing
for a moment, or if you take the right amount, you know, like if you could, if you drink
too much structured water, it could send you into a hospital. I've seen that,
which is again, sort of like doing something too fast, like, you know, taking a drug that shoots
you into a different consciousness too fast and you're not ready for it, or like trying to force
the body to do something it's not ready for, like taking tons of herbs, like what Dr. Smith
talks about, you know, when you try to push the body into cleansing its liver by taking
herbs and things like that. So same thing with the water, you know, like with the breathing,
sometimes it's Wim Hof, sometimes it's Buteco, you know, sometimes it's great to have a glass
of structured water. And if you're in, you know, and it's not just structured by the machine,
it's structured by whoever handed it to you, or how you hold it after they handed it to you.
Yeah, I just personally would never invest in any kind of structured water
stuff. But that's just me. So what am I using to distill my water? It's called
water lovers. I believe is the I have my machine. I use one that's called from a company called pure
and secure LLC. And it's all stainless steel. So there's no plastic parts in it. Nice. And I
like because it's not too big, because I don't have a lot of space. So I kind of, you know,
they do like a gallon at a time. Right. Yeah. And I hear a lot of the distillers have copper parts
inside. Did you look into that at all? I know, I know. I'm pretty sure. I think it's all stainless
steel from what I understand. Okay. Yeah. Look into it. I did a deep dive one night with chat
GPT and they say, Yep, there's always a copper part in there. Okay. Maybe you got a good one.
And then there's somebody in the chat that says water can't hold a memory and water is not alive.
And there's something there's something there. You know, I like Daniel David. I am
a good friend and he's coming at it from the Bible and talks about that moment where
spirit hovers over the water and impregnates the water. And so that's that's interesting
relationship of the water to the spirit also, and that's in and of itself, you know, like I'm sorry,
sure, you can't you will die without water, but that doesn't mean water is life,
or water is consciousness, or anything that reflects like I take my pen and I write on the page
and oh, it's alive. No, no, it's not, you know, so there's there's some kind of weird,
I don't know, something. And then there's the whole Deuteronomy in the Bible that talks about
how God separated the waters from the waters. And that's like the whole there's some secret code
in there I think about deuterium. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the whole that we're in a
water dome and you look up and on a clear day, it's definitely watercolor. And it was Crow that
has photographed the lunar wave, the way the wave that appears to move in front of making the moon
look like it's fluid. But yeah, I mean, we're seeing through a fluid, and even air is a fluid,
we're in a fluid environment. So yeah, it's a lot of did you ever see that video of the guys
who had enough money to shoot up a rocket. And then at a certain point, it stops and then it turns
and then it goes kind of like the shape of a dome. But the marks that it leaves look just like when
you're looking at an aerial view of a boat. The tracks that it leaves looks just like, you know,
like the tracks you would leave in some kind of liquid. Anyway, it's fun stuff. Thought
experiments, you know, I'm not saying this is any truth or anything like that. But
that's okay. Yeah, that's good to know. But the water leprous machine, I've had a few glitches
with it. And I'm like, are you kidding me? It's only since 2021 or two at the most that I've had
it and it's glitching. So that's good to know. I might want I might not get it again. It
was not cheap actually. And yours a mega dome distiller. What do you think of it,
Jackie? Is it a good, a good performing one? And Icelandic water, glacier water from the grocery
store is high pH. I haven't been down the pH rabbit hole yet. I know it's there. I've been
navigating it purely intuitively. And I kind of hesitate to throw in another marker. But
yet the rainbow is very interesting. Ken Wheeler says that the water isn't alive
and can't hold memory. But he does insist it's an antenna. Well, that's what I was
actually just starting to think about about because it does seem to take in information and
give information. So you know, transmitter receiver, that would that would make more sense to me that
it's a kind of conduit. It definitely conducts electricity. If you drop your blow dryer in the
in the bath, you're going to find that out pretty quick. Maybe it's just like my experience
with it. Maybe it isn't that it is creating, but that it is reflecting my own create creating.
That it's like a good mirror. And when I look at some of the things that it created, I'm like,
man, if I if it's really reflecting, then boy, am I really creative?
Which you are, which you are. Yeah. Yeah. And it's and if it's been in you like the tear,
right? So it's yeah. And there's somebody just said it too, in terms of never mind oneness, right?
Like it's one field. So we try to break out an element and talk about it uniquely. Yeah, it doesn't
it doesn't bring us home. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like, I mean, we're talking here, we're creating
vibration with our words, even though you're alone in your space, I'm alone. But it's affecting
everywhere. You know, it's going in waves. You know, that's just one part of it. And the water is
part of that too. And you know, our breath, I mean, and you know, what's his name?
Perry Nicholson. He says that the fascia and the blood. No, that the blood and the lymph
are like liquid fascia. Oh, nice. You know, and I love that. I love that. You know,
because the fascia is what's holding us together covers everything. It's like this little suit,
you know, and and it's part of holding our head in and our bone structure all in place.
My fascia is falling apart.
Yeah, perfect segue into into fascia. I have not done a deep dive. I've seen people going crazy
for it. And so what have you learned in that arena? I was just thinking what a great expression would
be get a fascia lift. Yeah, yeah. Well, it does do something for sure. I mean, it's it's again,
just like the mystery of exactly what is water? What is air? What is breath? What is the ether?
You know, I mean, we're calling it air, but really it was the ether. And thanks to Einstein,
the shill, he said, Oh, there's no such thing. And so people don't include that anymore. It's
sort of like fish not including water in their in their in their high school classes.
But what was I saying? Waters aren't one though, perhaps. Yeah, yeah. I'm just catching up
here. Yeah, yeah, that was the same. The waters are one, whether it's coming off your breath or
going in your body or it's in a river down or it's on the snow on the ground or yeah, water, water's
one. So so the fascia, I mean, it's it's all kind of like, I just see it as like this kind
of plasma liquid that's really strong and can take a bear huge amounts of weight.
And in order to and I've done all kinds of work with it, the one that I'm doing now have been for
the last year and a half or so that I love is with these wooden blocks so that you really feel the
so you can really go deep in there and feel, you know, what does it feel like when the fascia
does release a little bit? You know, they they call them like adhesions in different parts of
us, where we tend to be stuck. Like if you're always in a certain position, you you can develop
like a posture. And I keep catching myself. It's amazing how many times a day I'm like,
Who is this person? And I go, wait a second, relax. You know, what are you doing? Excuse me?
Excuse me, old lady. Exactly. What are you thinking by sitting like that?
But so I love doing the work, the fascia work, especially on your feet. And it's very simple.
I mean, literally just standing on this and bending your foot over this. I don't have it here.
But it's just like a yoga block, but it's made of hardwood and and stepping on it or
just sticking it between your fingers, you know, and the hands and the feet are amazing.
And most of the fascia stuff that is locked up is around here. And you know, Perry Nicholson has
you know, the big six, which a lot of the people who do the low toxin
diet are doing. And it's just it takes two minutes, you know, you could do it several
times a day. And it's literally just touching up like in the proper order so that you open up the
lymphatic pathways. And they're related, the fascia and the lymph there. I don't see how you could,
you know, separate them. As a matter of fact, there's a great interview with him and the woman
who does the block therapy. Having interesting talk about, you know, the interconnection
between those two. So nice. Another fun thing to practice. Yes. Okay. I was just going to jump in.
So I had a cancer of the lymphatic system. And so you think that I would have learned all this,
but it was the first time I heard it from Garrett, that the the lymph is the sewer system
of the body. If anybody had ever told me that, I think something, you know, and I obviously
didn't research enough to learn that properly. But they talk about it more like it's your immune
system and it's your lymphocytes and your ability to fend off the evil pathogens and
bacterias and viruses and all that kind of thing. But at the end of the day, the one thing
that's really, really good to know about lymph is that it doesn't move if you don't. Whereas,
you know, the blood gets pumped, even though it's a lot of controversy that the heart
is a pump, but it gets moved probably not by the heart. That's a different kind of
pressure. But yeah, the stagnancy of any fluid in your body is going to accumulate and it's already,
it's already the full of the junk. So my latest, I like the big six, they're okay. It broke down
when I lost use of my hands because even doing this was not so good. And now I've got a vibration
plate. And this is amazing. I love this. We're going to, we're going to make some disclaimers
around it to not to think like, oh, just go spend 10 hours on your vibration plate and call it a day
or anything like that. I do have to take it in doses. It's clearly extremely detoxifying,
like literally shaking up, physically manually shaking up the stuff in your body. And,
if I keep it to nice little 10 minute segments, maybe once or twice a day,
and you can get on there and make no effort as well. Because I was doing the workout that you
sent me on there at first. Now I'll do a combination of working out and then just the passive workout.
Last night I laid on my back with my legs on it. And when I got to the floor, it's like,
oh, it's freezing cold down here. But within, I don't know, two minutes. I was perfectly warm.
Why? Because everything's, you know, it was just my legs. It's not even the rest of my body is getting
moved. But it raised my body temperature. Well, yeah. And that, but remember that can stir,
you know, that raises it too much, then you can stir too many chemical reactions and start
detoxing. Yeah, in this case, it wouldn't be heat caused. But I think it just the motion
itself. And I can see from my days when I did chemotherapy, breathing was too big a vibration.
I couldn't, I couldn't deep breathe. It was, my cells weren't solid enough. My bones weren't solid.
The muscles weren't attached with the bones in the same way. All of the, now in this case,
it would be the fastest growing tissues in the body were dead or dying. Because that's
what the chemo does. It kills the fastest growing cells in the body, which are inevitably the lining
of every, you know, your gut, your eyes, your ears, your nose, your lungs, everything. And so
I was coming apart at such a great force that even like a walk down the street was too much
putting that if I got on a vibration plate back then I would have been like, nope,
get away from me. I'm not doing this. And I can still feel if you spend a little too long
in it, your body's like, all right, okay. So yeah, that's, that's amazing. It's amazing. Your
story just blows me away. You know, I mean, the testament to all the different things that went
into your recovery. And I don't know, do you notice now, like, now that you've been like a year
and four or five months, that your body can, it's easier for things to come out that it's kind of
like, it's not such a, you know, I don't know, hard work to get things, you know, that when you have
your little dump, that you can recover faster. Way faster, way easier. Oh, exactly. I'm calling
this a copper dump. But here I am. Lucid. I actually forgot until you said that word,
that that's what's happening to me. So yeah, it gets much more subtle as it goes along. And I have
the reins. That's the part people don't remember, right? That what I used to do when I would start
to bile dump or copper dump or whatever it is, I would like run and grab something and take
a lot of it and, you know, emergency and put a stop to it. And this is actually something really
specific. I might end up doing some work inside Love Your Liver on deprogramming. And I would
like to teach and help people to manage their system during a bile dump. Because what you
were saying earlier is very true. When your body is compromised in any way, it sets off fire
alarms. It just does. And so that you can just follow that blindly and go
like cooperate with this internal, which can be very invisible, by the way, you might not hear
this at all. But it's like, I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die like this.
And it's like, okay, well, I better do something quickly to right, even if you're not aware of
it, you can still very much be moved by that. And so how to navigate and negotiate and move
mindfully and, you know, in that place to be able to take, I did it last night to myself where
I think it was after maybe some of our treats. And I felt this like flutter in my system,
definitely a want for safety survival. And then, you know, in just a minute of conscious
release work, I could, I could let that program soothe and then I'm in a place of much greater
lucidity. And I know what's to be done. Yeah, nothing. That's often the case now. I come to that
conclusion. Don't do anything. Just stay the course eat well, carry on, maybe a little more
potassium. If I know it's copper, yeah, or even a lot more potassium, something like that. But
yeah, it's I'd like to teach people how to move through the bile dumps, because you can definitely
compound your problem over and over. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I mean, that's just such a great
description of that. The difference in, in how, how I deal with things that come up when they
do come up. It's, it's, um, it's like the animal in my body is trusting me a lot more.
Nice. Oh, it's beautiful. I don't freak out. You know, I just kind of go, okay,
so let's see, what can I do now? And I actually go still instead of grabbing, like you said,
that's why we're like, okay, I got to go get this, that, you know, and so now to just like
what you said, uh, you know, just carry on, uh, keep doing this. And, and it's okay. It's,
it's almost like just saying, you know, if you're, if you're sitting in, in a room with
a wild animal, or you're out in the nature and you're sitting and the wild animal is there,
you know, that yet you just sit with it and it starts to trust you, you know, uh, and there's
a possibility of the deer coming to, um, smell your nose. Uh, you know, but, but it's that,
it's, it's, God, it's, it's a relationship. It is a relationship, you know, with, um,
with something that is very primal and unintellectual in us. And, and you can't throw the intellect on
that. You can't go, well, you see what's happened. No, you just have to, it's sort of like giving
the frequency in your own atmosphere of like, it's okay. You know, we're on the right path.
And just knowing that I'm not, uh, unconsciously, uh, poisoning myself because I need comfort food
and that I'm okay. Just, just giving that message. It's, it's such a different way
place to live from and to navigate from, you know, but it's not like I'm in control
as much as it is. I'm fully present. Like I don't have to run away from something. I don't have to
get all fancy with like, what, what does this mean? You know, like, oh my God.
Yeah. Never mind that whole layer of things. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. We've, one way or another,
we've ended up with an adversarial relationship to our own, as you've been calling it,
like animal nature and, and our disposition towards it when you get, especially when you get
signs and symptoms and pain and discomfort and, you know, signals that won't let you suppress them
even, right? That they just don't go away. There's certain things. Then we learn to
hate them. We want to control them. We want to change them. We want to get rid of them.
We're scared of them. It, it seems to be a threat to our life. And there is something there, right?
Like you're saying, there's, there's constant triage going on. So there is a reflection of
something. But if you can be in, to dissolve the adversary and, and be, now there's all kinds
of flaky ways that won't be accurate, but they're still helpful to, to have a relationship,
to have a consultation, to be loving and kind with your body. Now new ages are going to run away
with this. Oh, you just have to love yourself. That's a bunch of bull crap. I'm sorry. Like bull crap.
Absolutely. There's, there's a, there is a thread of truth in there, but it's not,
it's not generally what people think. And, and then the, the thing about control,
I like what you said about it's not, it's not about controls about presence,
because real presence is control. The only problem with control is wanting it and lacking it.
And that's, when we, when we say, oh, they're so controlling,
it means they are desperate to get what they think they don't have.
And when you practice presence, you see like, oh, I have control over everything.
Everything is listening to me. Like talk to it and see, hey, are you suffering?
Poor thing. Anything I can do. And it's like, no, no, I'm working on it. Okay, good. I'm with you.
I'll stay with you. I'm not going to suppress that pain. I'll allow myself to be present
to that pain in a loving way. So anyway, you said a, you said a mouthful. I just
wanted to add to. Oh no, no, it's great. I love this conversation because it's getting
into the subtler realms of, you know, how, how we live day to day. How do we, you know,
what is this conversation? Who, who's talking to who?
I know. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Oh, this is really fun. Well, we're coming to the end of two hours
here. And was there anything that we left on the table as far as our topics, Dr.
There was one.
The big six. One thing that I was gonna, that I didn't write down that I remember
was just a quick mention, shout out to Sarah peptase. Okay, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is
another one of those like, yeah, it's, it's not gonna, it's not the answer to the problem.
But it is a pretty damn good bandaid. Because especially if you're coming at this and you're
older. And I discovered Sarah peptase when I had my, my close friend from college,
her brother was a surgeon and I had him remove a mold that I had right here, right? And it was kind
of done on the down low, you know, just private. And, and it left a terrible, huge,
keloids type scar. And I was like, Oh my God, this is terrible. It was for free, but
a free scar, a free scar. And so then I, I started taking the Sarah peptase and it
completely flattened it out. It's gone. And, and, and as I researched it, and it's like,
you know, it helps with the athletes use it when they have joint issues. And it will,
basically, Sarah peptase is a systemic enzyme. So it's not a digestive enzyme. It's not used to
digest food though it could. So you take it away from food and it goes into your blood stream.
And it helps to clean out the, you know, whatever might be, might be floating around in there.
So it's just kind of a good extra aid, you know, if you have certain, if you've had surgery,
if you have scar tissue, internal scar tissue from accidents, or just built up collagen type stuff,
you know. So just a good thing to keep in mind. And there's a really clean company
that is in, I think it's in Canada, they're in Canada, run by a Czech guy. And it's called
Life Enthusiast. And they have the cleanest with nothing in it, just Sarah peptase. Yeah.
Okay. Very good. And it being a good pain relief alternative, is it because it's cleaning the blood?
Yep. Yep. And the joints. So it really helps with, yeah, any kind of joint related arthritic type
issues. Nice. Nice. Yeah, I recommended it to someone after I found some conversations on the
LYL platform. And tell them, Emil, I missed your comments earlier, sorry, most all topics
discussed can be reconciled with the deep exploration and practice of the internal
martial arts. Interesting. And yes, aging, not aging. I missed that earlier. So thank you
quietly, content bear and situational awareness and sensory accuracy. Yep, that goes into the,
I think, trauma therapy kind of world. And apparently you can use a can for fascia work.
Is there any reason to use a wood block? Is there? Because it's closest to bone.
You want the hardness of it, because I've been doing a lot of fascia work, but I was doing like with
blown up balls, for example, or different kind of rollers. But it's not, it's completely different
with that wood. Having nothing like having some wood between. No, I can't go there. But I mean,
every time I sit, you know, you can put the block between your legs and you
also helps you to align your fascia and release it. Yeah.
Nice. Nice. Yeah, that was something I healed my back when it got thrown out after my son was
two. And I had carried him for two years in a row. And it was like all of a sudden like this.
And I was done, absolutely done. And I did a lot of healing on a wood block, just literally
placing my sacrum on the woodblood block. And that was it. They talked to each other,
talked to the block. That's the thing that I love about the block therapy
work is that it really takes time, you know, for people who are in a rush,
it again, the principle of just being with it. Like what you were saying, just laying there,
you just lay there and you learn how to, you know, breathe into it. So you're fully present
with the animal in your body. And you're like giving it full all the space and time it needs.
And man, and you can do this in bed too, you know, before you go to sleep or when you wake up,
you could put the block in so many places anywhere, you know, on your, on your body,
your face, your neck, your feet, you know, you can do all kinds of things. But again, the slow,
the taking the time, the slow release, not the, you know, jamming it in there release.
Got it. And is there a site that you recommend for that that people can see?
It's just called blacktherapy.com therapy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I hope to introduce her to Garrett
because she really needs, she's got so many wonderful things that would so go well with,
with the low, low A approach. Yeah. Very good. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Healing takes time.
And it's also very much modulated by our belief. And it also has little to nothing to do with
our belief. I'll say both of those at the same time. Some, if I tried to corner myself and say
something really definitive about healing, I always have to come back to the same conclusion
as that all healing is by the grace of God. And I know God is problem, problematic as a word,
but I think you guys get where I'm going with that. So yeah, very good. A couple of announcements
before we close out, unless there was anything else you wanted to say, or it's not your last
chance either. Yeah, I think I feel complete. You feel complete. That's excellent. Very good.
So in the House of Free Will coming up, it looks like both Joel Schaefer and Alex Michael have
agreed to do House of Free Will. In Joel's case, it would be a workshop introduction to his work
on the Toltec teaching. So I'm pretty yay, excited about that. And Alex Michael is going
to do a workshop. So to speak, it will be more leading a discussion around creativity and the
creative process. And yeah, I've got one of his songs. It's got a bad word in it. I got it stuck
in my head. Can you guys guess? You'd probably have to know his work. I can't say it. Dagmar,
I can't say it. It's one of the bad, bad ones. Oh, really? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. And the song
says it about at least 30 times. Oh, listen, it's just, it's just in there. It's so funny.
Yeah, really cool song actually. And you sanded your own old piece of wood. That's very good to do.
To hear Lunette, hello, welcome. Your research and knowledge on the downsides of too much
copper in the body. Yeah, this is a big one. I'm actually working right now on a short list of
PubMed articles that talk about copper toxicity. It is in there. All you have to do is go to
PubMed, search copper toxicity and watch the bring that comes up. Now they want you to
believe copper is a nutrient. So that's going to be in the mix there as well.
But when I get that list, I've got some other people who are challenging me right now about
copper toxicity. So I decided I was going to create a good list of the actual receipts on that
one. And so stay tuned. If you're not in my telegram, please do join me on the King Hero
chat. The channel leads to the chat. There's the House of Free will there. That's private.
You can apply to join my private membership. We're studying some really good law in there,
the real deal. We're going to be doing a course which is not exclusively in the House of Free
will called Creator Code. That's coming up starting January 14. There are only two spots left
for that course. So I'm pretty happy. There's a beautiful group of I believe we're all women
in Dagmar. Yeah, yeah, it happens. I tried a few years to get the message out much more.
At least one rooster in the henhouse. Oh, no, wait, wait, wait. He would be offended if I
heard me hear me say that. So I have to take it back. There is definitely at least one guy.
Okay. Yeah. Yep. I take that back entirely. And so yeah, I'll keep you posted. But
definitely the Telegram is the best place to reach me. And SV St said, we already talked about that.
Spell it out. Yeah, that's good at that.
Dragonfly, absolutely agree. You're very welcome. There's my link to Creator Code.
And you were wearing lots of copper jewelry. Yeah, you can see how it interacts with the
skin. I actually I bought a cheap necklace in the store because it was just like the right length
and the right color turns out it's made of zinc, which is fun. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if I
wear this continuously and I don't take it off, I'll start to rash up at the back of my neck
because it's detoxing my neck. Oh, from copper because the zinc is pushing out the copper.
Could be from copper, but yeah, like the zinc is an antagonist to copper in particular and probably
others. And yeah, yeah, so yeah, it was just fascinating to watch. I have a bracelet that I
made myself, but I can't wear it all the time because I'll start to dump copper just from
touching the metal. So yeah, kind of crazy. Yeah. Yeah, and that copper jewelry, just
yeah, take that off. It makes your skin green. It's not good. It's not good.
It's not good. It's like it's ugly for a reason. It smells bad for a reason.
I threw it away recently on my copper rings and bracelets and yeah. Yeah, it smells terrible,
especially interacting with your body like the earrings. It's like right. So yeah,
the garbage is kind of where that stuff belongs unfortunately. And thank you, Michelle. You're
so great at finding my links. That's to the King Hero Chat where you can come and jump in
and don't hold it against me if you don't see emojis on your posts because
Telegram removes them. Go figure. I don't know. I literally, I can watch them remove my emojis
as I place them and then they take them away. Like, okay, great. Thank you for that.
And yeah, some middles to turn a yucky and don't use copper vessels for water.
Absolutely not. No, it's an antibiotic. You don't want, you don't want an antibiotic.
Antibiotic means against life. Against life. Exactly. Exactly. So they pitch it as,
it's not funny how the terrain guys are pitching the copper that's antibiotic. Excuse me.
I know. I've seen babies here drinking from copper bottles here in Asheville. I was like,
oh my God, a sweet young boy got his, you know, his mother all proud and everybody means well,
you know, it's just, but it's heartbreaking when you know. I know, I know. I did all the bad things
to my son too. And it makes the water taste terrible. Yeah, I can even just imagine the
taste and I'm having an aversion to that taste. So we're not meant to have that stuff.
You've taken it all yet. We kind of all have been there after hearing,
uh, you're taking it all off after hearing me talk about it. Excellent. Good for you.
That's amazing. I love hearing that. And then you just try the experiment. Like if you, if you go
two, three weeks and you realize you were much better with all that on, then put it on. But
chances are you probably are going to notice the opposite sunbrewed tea tastes better to you
than without the sun. Very good. Something about that. Yeah. I'd like to put my water
in the sun sometimes. Nice. Nice. It's pretty. Probably good. So what else?
If we're not connected at my website yet, this is the easiest way to do it is take 10 minutes and
complete my archetype quiz where you can find out where you are on the path of purpose.
It is not the bee all in the end. It's a little crack in the, in the door.
But the crack in the door can be very big in that respect because you get,
you know, you might get a reflection of something that you're either not aware of or you've been
putting off and get some instant awakening from that. Now the awakening to something is not
the transformation of something, but you can transform something that you didn't awaken to.
So in a way it's part and parcel of the same process. And yeah, I think that's pretty much
all. I actually do have a snippet part two coming up with my son. That's my private podcast in the
House of Free Will. And so he joined me for a second snippet. He didn't swear as much, but he
swore poignantly. And I was very careful not to tell him not to swear because then we would
get like double and triple the volume of it. But yeah, yeah, we talked about Brown's gas. And I
tried it. I really, really went for it. And it's not, it doesn't cooperate with your,
with your body. Our bodies do make antioxidants, which Brown's gas is an antioxidant hydrogen
is an antioxidant. But you want your body to regulate it. Not your mental thing that's all
for the most part driven by fear programming. And those decisions and micro things and you
can't see the complexity of how everything's working together perfectly orchestrated by life.
Right. So yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take it. And how dehydrating is the chatbot that you use?
Yeah. And the rings you wore for tensor coils. Yeah, I wouldn't put them in tensor coils at all.
Take it out of your bedroom. There was one point where I flipped my head. I don't sleep at the
head of my bed anymore because there's the power outlets are closer to there. And so the
first five nights I detox like mad. Because I wasn't all of a sudden my body wasn't getting as much EMF
or my head wasn't getting as much EMF. And I started to detox at night. Luckily, it wasn't
very strong for very long. But it's like, yeah, that was affecting me. Yeah, I noticed when I
put on my kill switch, sometimes I can't sleep because I start detoxing too much. Ah, yeah.
So really, I'm going like, that's weird. But yeah, sometimes, you know, if I do it consistently,
then it's okay. But then sometimes if I go away, then like I'm going to LA now, that's gonna be,
I'm just gonna get a big load of EMFs everywhere, right? So I'll have to then wean myself back
down when I come back. You're right. Yeah, one thing we discount a lot is the adaptation or power
to adapt. I think that's why we're not all dead on mass yet, because of all of the weapons that are
aimed at us. And that I do feel like everything that comes your way, a lot of things that have
come my way in life, I've been able to take a lot of negatives and flip them into a positive,
very childlike. There's there's just something about it. Oh, in with the bad. And okay,
that's that's fine. I'll take that and I'll digest that and I'll let go of what's not
good. And then I'll make something good out of it. And in that openness, then you can stumble into
things like the, you know, the toxic bio paradigm, which has been tremendously helpful for me being
able to handle tons of stuff because I'm not resonating with it as much as I used to.
You know, I can go have lunch right by a cell tower. Not a problem before I would feel it
in my whole body. So now it's, you know, I can function in the normal world and not not feel like
oh, I can't take it because my body's just not I don't have as much copper and as much ferritin,
those two the ferritin my ferritin went down significantly. And that was really high on me.
So of course, I was like a magnet with the iron. And I was a conductor with the copper,
perfect. Take my energy. Let me be a vessel for your frequencies. And so now it's like I'm not,
I'm truly not participating in it the way that I used to. Because I'm, I have some awareness,
some education, some actions that I actually was able to take in the world that are making a huge
difference. Amazing. Yeah, so that's a lot of freedom right there. And how many people
have to avoid certain locations and places and things that couldn't go to LA because of the EMFs.
With like I sewed my own Faraday cage. Okay, every time I'd go to New York or LA,
I'd bring that with me and I have to bring these PVC things that I build a little
like a square with and I put the Faraday cage over it was this is a real royal pain in the
ass. Yeah. Oh, so now I don't have to lot less things to put in my car.
That's amazing. Good for you. Well, congratulations on all your fantastic progress with your health.
And it's been great to be on this journey with you. You'll be back again to the
Beth of Fresh Air. We'll probably invent more episodes of this series as it goes. And yeah,
so I'm not sure what next week exactly holds yet, but we'll see. Oh, Siri thinks I'm talking
to her. I am not. That's funny. Just a few more comments. She'll said lately,
you've been hearing about a capsule that starts with a that's an antioxidant that makes your
skin have a suntan glow. Well, that means that there's toxicity in your skin, by the way.
I was looking back at a few videos of mine and I'm like nicely tanned and I'm like, oh,
yeah, she's toxic. Notice now like I actually go for a fairly regular tan and I'm not
tanning nearly as much or burning, which is another sign of the skin being toxic.
Yeah. Most people aren't familiar, though, with the concept of the tan. When you tan
very easily, that just means that you have a lot of the carotenoids in your skin.
So you're baking it in. So you start to look like those people in Florida who have that
baked chicken skin. Yeah, that's pretty much it. And he's a true ferritin would be
lessened by donating blood. Yes. Yeah. But again, it's just like, you know, it's just like the
the terium depleted water. But it's a great thing to do because I did that and I will never do
it again. But because I'm I'm I'm an under I don't weigh enough to do it. But I had a
kind of a bad reaction to that. But the good part was that within minutes of doing it,
both my bilateral knee pain just disappeared, which is one of the symptoms of a high ferritin.
So, you know, there's a good and my ferritin went down. But I'm also constantly doing
something to bring it down by lowering my a I am slowly, you know, going I'm not
I'm still eating red meat. But, you know, it's, it's not a lifestyle to be donating blood
twice a year. You know, if you don't do anything about it, then you'll have to do that so that
you can feel good. And then I feel so bad. I'm like, Oh, who's going to get all that high
ferritin blood from me? Oh, so Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, you just could slit your wrist.
Just very bad. Very bad. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. Absolutely. I'm not giving advice.
I'm part of my programming. No. Yeah, that's that dodgy. I'm not sure I would resort to that.
I have given a lot of blood for the wrong reasons. And yeah, bunch of nonsense tests
that showed nothing at all. They're just vampires over there drinking my blood. I mean,
if you do test your blood and you do have high ferritin, it's a good thing to do,
you know, as you start to do everything else too. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It can be very helpful to
some people. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I tested very high ferritin. But no, as a matter
of fact, we're not testing blood for me. So who knows? I don't think so, though. I'm not,
I'm not having any signs that I am aware of hair, right? You know, only doing the hair
exactly. Yeah. And I never fell for cooking in the cast iron. What other other ways they measure?
I didn't take iron supplements ever. But a lot of people who don't do any of that
just can still have high ferritin. Because they have high A. The high A makes it the
ferritin not go where it's supposed to go. And so, so you don't have to necessarily have that
risk to have high ferritin. Okay, very good. Well, I just realized I have to fly. I've got a
birthday dinner coming up and I have to leave in 10 minutes. So it's been fabulous. Thank you so
much, Dagmar. It's been wonderful. Thank you everyone for joining in and commenting and
being around here. Appreciate it very much. Never helps, never hurts to share it out
and help me with the algorithms that are never on my side around here. But who cares?
Just keep going and keep doing the thing, keep showing up. And that satisfies my requirements
anyway. It's been a pleasure, Beth. And if anybody wants to go on my YouTube channel or
watch my loose underwear show, a woman show, then you can find it on my YouTube channel,
which is Dagmar Stansova. Nice. And so the outro is two minutes and 33 seconds. There is
time to show, to share it in the chat if you, if you have, if you wanted to grab a link to your
YouTube and maybe I can grab it too. I think it's asking me to do all kinds of other things, like
join something else to do it, try. Okay. Michelle, is it handy for you,
by any chance if you got your YouTube open and can go to Dagmar's channel there?
Or just look up loose underwear, Dagmar Stansova. Also, yeah, search, a search would be good.
Yeah. All right. Well, fantastic. Thank you so much, everyone. And we shall see you next week.
Same bad channel. Continue on, Beth. And thank you, everyone. It's been fun.
You're very welcome. Love you, Dagmar. Love you too, Beth. Thank you. Bye for now. Bye.