The first one is understand the common enemy and stop doing the as-and-them of the trans
people in California and the conservative Islamists in Iran and focus on the common
enemy. That's number one. Don't overestimate the strength of the common enemy. That's number
two. Be aware of the extent to which you go along with tyranny and don't do it. That's
number three. And number four, as you said, in order to be clearheaded like that, you have to guard
against becoming emotional in response to every shiny ball and a bit of fear or violence
porn that's put in front of you. I've been listening to your podcast for a while now
and I love the content and the brutal honesty. As an attorney who fought against COVID mandates,
I follow a lot of dissenting medical and legal voices and read a lot of great stacks.
But your posts and podcasts are amongst my favorite. Thank you for all you do. Legal
Glass, thank you so much for that lovely comment and thank you for subscribing to my sub-stack.
Helgi, hi Amid, all the best and lots of love from Iceland. I've been researching all the stuff
since around 2009-ish and I have to say that your podcast is one of the best in the space
so far and I fully support your change to start charging for every episode. I didn't even know
that you had to pay well before. If you're ever in Iceland, please come by and visit me
in my brewery in Hilla. Wow, well I hope I do get to visit Iceland and I'll definitely give your
shit if I come. And Jewel, I believe you're one of the few out there that is not controlled by ego,
arrogance, pride, money or coercion. It is truly humbling to discover how much of our lives are
based on lies which we failed to question. And to everyone else who's signed up and
become a supporter on Spotify and on sub-stack, I just want to say thank you so much and
welcome. You're part of a wonderful tribe and you keep this show alive and I'm most grateful.
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Or simply buy him a coffee with a one-off donation, links to which can be found at
dot malik.com. Now let's get on with the show. You know, it's the Iran Wars kicked off and suddenly
we've got blue skies, no chem trails and I'm out in the garden. I'm just working. It was beautiful.
And I, you know, I didn't think about checking the weather and this morning it's foggy. It's cold.
The heater in the studio wasn't turned on. So I've got my jumper on. I've got my gloves here.
I've got my hat because I'm really cold. But yeah, that's what the weather's like. So this
is why I'm dressed up the way I am. But you've got beautiful weather where you are, don't you?
Yeah, it's stunning at the moment. You know, we're enjoying that sort of fading days of summer
and it's still and clear and bearable temperature. So yeah, I'm full of the joys of life today.
Rub it in. Rub it in, my friend. All right, well listen, Nick, I really appreciate you
coming on me. You know, you did this great podcast with me here in the studio ages ago when I just
started and you did the timeline of bullshit, which has been viewed by tens of thousands of people
around the world. And you're kind of known for that. But you're also known for your,
your, your kind of like version of Occam's razor, which Nick Hudson's razor. Do you want to
just repeat that for anybody who's never heard of that? Everybody's heard of your
bullshit timeline. But tell me about Nick Hudson's razor. Hudson's razor, as they call it. Yeah,
that's a very simple proposition that any problem that is presented as a global problem,
number one, admitting only global solutions, number two, amid an environment of suppression of
descent, number three is a scam. Simple as that. If somebody's telling you that there's
global warming, that's the global problem. And the only way we get to solve it is by
cutting CO2 emissions. That's the global solution. And if you're not one of the 98%
supposedly scientists who support this, then we're going to destroy your careers and ban you
from YouTube and suppress your reach on Twitter and whatnot. So that makes the CO2
climate crisis thing a definitive scam. And of course, the same applies to COVID. Of course, it
does. Absolutely. Dude, and talking about Twitter, my reach has definitely been throttled. I was,
I was, I was like getting an extra thousand, like followers every fortnight. And in the last six
months, it's just stopped. That's it. It's just capped. And, and I think, yeah, something,
I've come on their radar and they're like, we need to shut this guy down. And Alex Williams,
Alex Creel did a grok analysis. And he's shown me that my account is now locked in. So it will
reach out to the people who follow me, but no new person can see what I'm saying. And in effect,
I'm kind of like shadowband, which is, so you've got freedom of speech, but no freedom of
reach. But anyway, I posted this, and it's kind of relevant to the message that you sent me
the other day. You know, what is it with these people? I don't understand these people get
vaccinated agenda 2013 net zero digital ID, the COVID pandemic, you know, CBDCs, and they're
like, no, no, we don't want any of that. We are totally awake to all that. And then the moment,
you know, our savior starts bombing Iran, we're like, yeah, this is great. This is wonderful.
What is wrong with people? Look, I mean, this is a kind of, for me, a process that's
gone in steps. You know, when we came out initially against lockdown, we enjoyed a massive surge in
support and networking. And very quickly, I found myself propelled from
the corridors of quiet investing behavior in South Africa into a network of very compelling
individuals who are still many of whom are still close friends. But it was a very broad international
network. And then the first point of controversy that began to factor the group was was vaccination.
And some people inside the group's waters, the way out of the pandemic, other people said,
what pandemic, there is no pandemic. That's the whole damn point. And this vaccination
thing is part of the con. And so, you know, that put people at loggerheads. And there was
a split that people left. You know, I was very much in the latter group. So it was the, oh,
no, let's all get vaccinated, people who exited. Then it was the Ukraine crisis.
There were the people who said, you know, oh, Putin just got out of bed on the wrong side and
invaded Ukraine. And he's a thug. And it's awful. And the poor Ukrainians and everything.
And then the rest of us who said, what are you guys crazy? This is the product of 20 years
of NATO machination. This is an outstanding example of the adage that all wars are bankers' wars.
Ukrainian people are going to suffer Zelensky is an obvious acting puppet.
He has a documented history of him being exactly that. What are you smoking?
And that fractured the group. And then there was Palestine, the Israel Gaza situation.
And some people said, oh, you know, there's October the 7th. You've got to take out,
you've got to take out a mask and whatever you have to do. And they're hard under hospitals
and schools and the rest of us said, come on. There's obviously plenty of nonsense around
October the 7th. Remember that Mossad was behind September 11 and the assassination of Kennedy
and various other atrocities. And alongside the CIA in that regard, the CIA behind almost countless,
I would say, terrorist attacks, Operation Gladio, just a long history of doing anything. But
what is what is good for the American citizenry and showing increasing signs of simply being
part of a criminal elite that has lost all moral compass. And so we lost some people around
that again, because how can you say that that's anti-semitic? And then along comes the Iranian war
and the country that was going to have nukes next week for the last 30 years or 50 years or
something like that one loses count is now, he's got to be regime changed because look
at the horrible things they do to women or whatever. And the rest of us look at it,
those are the few remaining ones of us look at it and say, no, guys, this is
transnational financial capital doing its thing. Where you're not paying attention to what happened
in Syria, where the regime changed the horrible Assad regime and replaced them with a bunch of
ISIS head cutters that are somehow connected to Mossad and the CIA. This is why I love you.
Look, sorry for cutting you off. I mean, because you've just nailed it. And when you
sent me that message, this Iran invasion makes me livid. Once again, I find my circles decreasing
by a proportion of people I thought were sensible, but who see this regime change operation making
sense. You know, absolutely. It's just like, I'm sorry. I hate to say this. It's not just a case
of brainwashing and propagandize. I think a lot of people are showing themselves and revealing
their closet racist attitudes. These are brand people. These are another culture. They're
Muslim. They're subhuman. They're others. We're better. We're superior. We're westernized. We're
Western civilization. We've got Judeo-Christian values. And it's the superiority, racial,
cultural, whatever you want to call it, coupled with extremist religious fundamentalism. I'm
not talking about idolatry. I'm not talking about Muslim fundamentalism, which is real.
I'm talking about Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, that, you know,
we are superior. We have, this is revelations. This is end times. I mean, there's US commanders now
openly coming out and people are talking about it. They're saying, this is God's war. This is
Armageddon. This is, and it's like, what is going on with these people? And it's the hypocrisy,
you know, so forget about the genocide in Gaza for a second. You know, imagine, imagine Iran
bombed a school. And we're talking about 170, 180 girls between the age of seven and 12. Imagine
this was the UK right now in London. Imagine this was Washington DC. You know, imagine the
outcry. These Muslim barbarics. They don't care about civilians, about children. They're
awful. We need to destroy them. No, folks, this was British and, you know, American and Israeli
bombs. And they've done it. And where's the outcry? Where's the Western media outcry? There is none.
And it's this hypocrisy, this blindness to the evil that's being done that I just
cannot comprehend. And again, what is that? What's wrong with these people? These are,
like you said, these circles that we, you know, we were mixing with, these are intelligent
people. What is, what's happening there? Well, we're five minutes in and I've got four really
interesting veins to, interesting threads to pull on from what you've been talking about, Ahmed.
The first I would say is this, you know, eschatological considerations aside. And I agree
with you, there are a bunch of crazies out there who are, you know, adopting sort of
millenarian perspectives and seem to be all in on weird businesses around third temples and
whatnot. Eschatological considerations aside. I think the point you make about
it's happening to brown people is a solid one. And the way I like to describe this to people,
you know, okay, so let's, let's say to all intents and purposes, I do agree with you,
you know, Mr. Interlocutor. And, and what, what happens to some woman in Iran,
what has happened in the past in Iran to some woman is not, does not comply with
mass standards. I do not support that kind of behavior. Okay, so I'm in agreement with you.
Okay. I also don't support the kind of behavior indulged in in California,
where they castrate, physically castrate, confuse teenagers and have a state sponsored
program of confusing those teenagers so that they can castrate some more.
I'm not going to bomb or support the bombing of California because there are a bunch of
trans lunatics in California who are supported by that government, by government, Governor Newsom.
I'm not going to bomb California. I don't want to see California bombed.
I don't want to see Iran attacking California because they don't like that.
Now, just as I don't support the bullying of women and forcing them into a job and
whipping them and executing them by stoning if they get raped and or, or, or, or indulge in
infidelity and all this kind of stuff. I don't support that. I think it's horrific,
but I don't want to bomb Iran or have anybody else bomb it, especially when
the reasons for that bombing are so patently having nothing to do
with the plight of certain women. And while we're at it, can you please pay attention to the country
enough to realize that it's a massively diverse big country with, with a hinterland that is almost
incommunicable, mountainous, rugged, badlands, where tribal people live, who have lived there
with lives unchanged for centuries and whose, whose lifestyle and, and ways of thinking
about the world is markedly different from what goes on in Tehran and in the universities
of Iran or in the streets of major centers. And, you know, practices that have varied
over time and, and, and continue to move and to ameliorate in some places and worse than others.
It's, it's diverse. You're not talking about a country where the media caricature of a place
where every woman has to live in constant fear of being stoned or whipped if the hijab slips on
the bus. That's the media caricature. You know, can we at least grow up a little bit and,
and spend enough time engaging with the actual nature of the country and perhaps visiting it
before you decide that you're fully behind a bombastic idiot like Trump who wants to bomb it.
Sorry, I don't even like blaming on Trump because it's so obvious that he's not in power
and that America is no longer a sovereign nation. Hasn't been for quite some time.
So I just lose patience altogether and I've become very thick-skinned. You know, people
will turn around based on the last five minutes of what I've had to say and some prick out they
will call me an anti-Semite. You know, that's going to happen for sure, guaranteed. But I'm not,
I have many Jewish friends. I, I, my view is as far as I can tell, none of them would really
support what's going on if they knew the full depth of it or if they're stopped to think
about it for long enough, that their, their moral systems, as I read them in real life,
do not comport with that of the agents of Mossad or Benjamin Netanyahu. They do not.
I think at this stage it's actually anti-Semitic to support Benjamin Netanyahu.
He departs from what I understand, he departs from what I understand Judaism to represent.
And I know somebody's, some cross-guy in, in America or the UK now thinks that the Jews are
responsible for everything is also going to attack me. Nick, you're such a fool, can't you see,
you know, because look what the Talmud says or look what the, the Kabbalist Jews say,
tell me about the inversion of the Kellothic and let's talk about, you know, the various
things, their blood libels and all that nonsense. And, you know, to them I would say
exactly the same thing as I would say to, you know, somebody criticizing Christians for the
Crusades or something like that. You know, you don't just blandly sweep aside entire cultures
and civilizations because of the actions of a few. You know, are they crazy, are they crazy
Zionists who, who believe in world domination by the Jews, et cetera, et cetera? Yeah, for sure,
the head of the world Zionist, what is it, World Zionist Federation or something like that at one
stage was a man who believed exactly those things and he was there for 30 years. But most
Jews people think of Zionism as a home, the quest for a homeland and I support anybody's request
for a homeland. I believe that one of the problems of our world is that we've, we've
diversified way too fast and this multiculturalism is a, is an absolute train wreck. You can't
shake societies like that. You can't buff it complex systems without terribly adverse results.
So I am no friend of multiculturalism. I'm one of those people who, the rather strange cat called
Eric Weinstein, Weinstein's referred to as a, a xenophilic immigration restrictionist. I love
foreigners and I'm very interested in other cultures and I love meeting them and traveling to
their countries and having their food and, and talking to them, engaging with them and
finding out how they live and so on. It's a lovely thing. It's a, you know, I spent many
of my years seeking out such contacts, but I want my culture to be to an extent protected from
invasion, no matter how peaceful the invasion is, because I know that culture is a thing to
be treasured. It needs to be to the extent that it, it changes and, and evolves over time.
It needs to do so on the margin and by degrees. Wholesale changes to culture are very, very
dangerous. And so yeah, importing a bunch of Syrians to my hometown or a bunch of Nigerians
or, you know, whatever you want. I don't want that. And it's got nothing to do with whatever
color they are in that particular place. Nothing at all. It's just that I don't want to see
my culture suddenly diluted. Can I quickly say something? Can I quickly say something? Some, some
people might say this is very rich coming from you, a white South African who, you know, whose
people about 100, 150 years ago came over to Africa, subjugated the Africans, took over the country.
It's just a matter of time. Now you think of yourself as African, you were born there,
your parents, but your parents, your family, your descendants came over invaded, literally
invaded and conquered and subjugated the local people. It's just a matter of time. Today,
the immigrants are coming into Europe 100 years from now. They'll be Europeans. It'll be their
land. I don't accept that line of thinking either. I mean, I'm just playing devil's advocate.
I got you. I appreciate that. The reason I don't accept that line of thinking is,
you know, the past is the past and invasions and atrocities happen and people find themselves
where they are and all of those historical forces converge to create culture and, you know, it's,
so for example, you know, immediately prior to the sort of conflict, the first major
racial conflicts in South Africa and in the sense of wars, you know, because do you mind,
should I do a quick portrait history for the benefit of people who don't know it,
just of South Africa. Okay. So, I mean, South Africa starts back in the 15th century.
The story of at least European interest in South Africa starts back in the 15th century.
At that time, South Africa was fairly sparsely populated in the Southwest.
There were people of Khoisan origin. That's a language and cultural group that into which
the Bushmen and Hotentots, these are the sort of common names by which people know them
would fit. And they were hunter gatherers. They didn't even have livestock or steel or any kind
of village life or anything like that. They were nomadic hunter gatherers, some of them
cavemen. And so they were them and they were in the Southwest corner, but extremely small
population. And initially, there was very little interaction. They didn't need to be. There was
suddenly these guys sitting in the port, well, sitting in the Bay in Cape Town,
where they were growing a few plants and feeding the passing ships, which only
were a handful a year sort of thing. And that, you know, there wasn't even initial
permanent establishment until the Dutch arrived in the in force in the 17th century and
started putting up permanent structures and so on. You know, when I say that they were establishing
waypoints, it was a tree for the point for the purpose of leaving a letter for the part,
the returning ships and maybe a little structure to foreshelter while they stopped to get fresh
water from the waters that ran off Table Mountain. So initially that was where the
interface took place. But in the hinterland further to the north and east, there was a
movement of people down the east coast of Africa that had been ongoing for millennia.
And there were big, there was one particularly big grouping, the southern Bantoid people
of which the Zulu Nation is a member. And that was a fairly fragmented story, not a giant
uniform polity. But in the 19th century, that polity began to consolidate under the
rulership of a brutal dictator called King Shaka. And he caused a historical event called the
Diffekrane, which means I think the scattering, basically ripples of tribes who were being
attacked by the Zulu Nation, falling upon the tribes that were outside of that their epicenter
huge displacements of people throughout the subcontinent. And it was against those people
and another nation to the southwest of them that caused a nation that the initial conflicts
between the British Empire, which was the successor of the Dutch in the Cape,
you know, had had their conflicts. And so there was a long multi-century story. It wasn't like,
well, we're going in there to invade and take over all of them. There was an ebb and flow of
economic greed of desperation. I mean, a large number of the settlers in southern Africa were
Huguenots who were fleeing religious persecution in northwestern Europe. You know, some of my
forebears were Huguenots who came to South Africa in the 17th century. We talked, you know,
almost 400 years ago. And so it's a very complex story. And I don't see the need to get all upset
or about the distant past, you know, on behalf of my cultural group, because there was a
conflict or because there was a displacement of people any more than I think we should be
getting upset about Shaka having once in the past displaced many cultures in the southern African
subcontinent. I think this kind of historical revisionism of you going back as far as it is
convenient and coming up with a point where you say and that point in 1750 or wherever means that
you Nick Hudson have to shut up over here or you Nick Hudson are not allowed to voice your
opinions or to talk about current period atrocities. So I just don't buy the line of reasoning.
People often in South Africa, you know, black people in South Africa who
inside my friendship raised these kinds of arguments and I'm very scathing and dismissing
often. So what I would say is, you know, if you look at the history of man,
there have been migrations and movements of people throughout history. And we're going back
10s, 10s of thousands of years, even the modern day white European is a migrant from the Asian
step. Like apparently the the Europeans before that were slightly brown in color. And you know,
the even modern day Slavic people have migrated into Europe. And we're talking about thousands
of thousands of years ago. What I'm trying to say is there have been waves of migration that
this is just human history. And you know, it's just a matter of time where you go back like
what is even for example, the current day British person like a Briton Britons are almost
like exist, you know, non existent, they're Viking migrating invasions, they were,
they were the Huguenots into Britain and England, they were the Angles, the Saxons,
you know, the pics the original Scottish people, they I mean, they're gone. So I mean,
like, they've just been Romans came into bread married, you know, there's this is human
history. But I think what differentiates in the modern day normal, I think migration would be
where you have a host country with its values, its language, its traditions, and people come in
and integrate into that country, they do not separate themselves, they do not have their separate
culture. They become a tapestry of the host nation. What I feel today, what we're seeing is
massive forced displacement of people by wars and conflicts into the West. And then they are
bringing their traditions and values and not really integrating into the host country or,
you know, there's a divide being created. And this idea then, and that's not healthy,
I don't think that's healthy. Like my dad came over to Scotland, 80, 90 years ago. And we were
never taught like we're going to be separate. We were told like you're Scottish, you're, you know,
be proud to be Scottish. I don't have dual citizenship. I don't have any other loyalty
with any other country. I don't think I, you know, I am, I'm Scottish, I live in England now,
you know, I'm British, you know, and this is my country. And, and I feel like I'm a fully
integrated member of this country. I don't like the idea of multiculturalism where
people bring their own values and cultures and want to change the country and impose their values
on it. I don't think that should be the case. And, and, and the problem of multiculturalism is now
what we're saying is globalization, which means there is actually no diversity.
All high streets look the same. All the restaurants are the same fast food joints.
All the movies are the same. The music's the same. There is no culture. I remember going to Paris
as a kid and it was Paris. It was different. I remember going to Germany. It was different from
France and Scotland. Now, you know, I would argue any European high street, you really struggle to
see the difference between them. They're all the same. And this, this isn't diversity.
And what you just have is pockets of different cultures and, and people
trying to live together, but there is no national identity anymore. And so that's what I'm against.
I agree with you. And, you know, I recently had the wonderful experience a few months ago.
A close friend of mine who has a glorious estate on one of the major islands in Fiji
invited my wife and I to, to his estate as sort of a wedding gift as it were.
And so we spent a good three weeks there in, in a completely new country for us.
And the unique thing about Fiji is because of its geographic remoteness and its kind of relative
lack of, of resources that would interest empire. They have managed to retain a uniquely Fijian culture
and it's pervasive. Sure, they have all sorts of intrusions from the, the developed world in
terms of technology and so on. But in terms of the way they interact with each other and with
foreigners, in terms of their way of life and, and, and how they engage with the world and with
nature. It's, it's a palpably preserved culture. And I was just rejoicing in it. It was just
a delight to talk to them, to, to just work out what it was that was so warm and so
entrancing about that culture and to see the warts, you know, and that contrasts so heavily
with this anodine homogenization that you see in the capital cities that business travelers like
me frequent in Madrid or London, you know, there's this relentless thin gruel of Starbucks and chain
restaurants and social propaganda, you know, projecting the globalist fashion of the day.
It, it, it, I can no longer go to London without any, without, with, with pleasure at all. I used
to love the city, but for me it's now just painful to be there. I go, I have a board meeting that
I must attend there twice a year. I get in, I get out and it's deeply saddening. It was a place
where I used to just, you know, sink myself into the culture. I'd make my business trips as
long as possible. I would be visiting people and going to art galleries and going to concerts and
taking walks and admiring the architecture, but I can't bear it anymore. And so I get out as quickly
as I can. I feel complicated when I go to Uganda or Mozambique or to Fiji. There, there I feel,
you know, really at ease and as much as I'm horrified by the poverty around me and so on.
I engage with people in a way that seems to be much more human and much more humane.
Absolutely. I mean, because like your, your Hudson razor, you know, forget the perceived
global problems. We have real actual global problems, which are not discussed. And these
global problems, it's incredible that whether you're in New Zealand or Canada or the States in
California or London in the UK has in cost incredibly high. Everyone is being outpriced. No
one can afford houses. People are rented up to their eyeballs. Cost of living. It doesn't matter
anywhere in the Western world, five eyes nation, people are struggling to get by to the food
bills are incredible. These are, these are truly global problems. And it's insane that it's,
it's everywhere. Like why is this problem everywhere? And globalization has done this that,
you know, I think it's engineered that, you know, we cannot afford our homes. If you go to London now,
you know, there was a time when people lived there all their lives, their parents lived there,
they lived there. Now they have to sell up. They can afford, they can't afford a house where
they grew up. They have to now commute in an hour and hour and a half. So there's a breakup
of local communities. People don't know their neighbors anymore. Most homes are bought by
investors from Dubai and China and Russia and God knows where. So you have these empty buildings,
they're literally like towers of flats that are empty. They're just investment properties,
you know, buy to let second homes of God knows what. So, you know, you have no, the nurses,
the doctors, the, the firemen, the police officers, they don't live in London.
People don't live in London anymore. Who lives in London? They're Airbnb. They're rich
people from abroad, students from China, God knows what the soul and character of the city
is defined by the people who live there. And if, if Londoners don't live in London anymore,
and they live in either ghettos or out in the periphery, what do you have? You have this
stream of people that just come and go, come and go. There is no continuity. There is no
community. There is no history. There's no memory of the place. And then suddenly
everywhere is vanilla. And it's the same anywhere you go, whether it's Vancouver or Sydney,
people can't afford to live in these places anymore. And we, you know, it's just sad to see this,
you know, and I think this is a real global problem.
I mean, you started and ended with an observation that, that this sense of affordability problems
and of, you know, it's not just affordability in terms of money. It's also in terms of
time. People are working, you know, two incomes in a household, long hours,
battling to, to maintain a coherent nuclear family really. And this has been a worsening
problem in a great many places for decades. And the frustrating thing about that is that
we don't need to find the solutions to that problem. The solutions were very firmly in place
already, you know, from the late, from the second, let's call it the second half of the 19th
century through to the middle of the early part of the second half of the 20th century.
Decentralized free economies and small states were furnishing everything we needed to know.
You didn't need a central planner. You didn't need a government telling you how to do it.
People got onto the job. They hustled. And living standards improved remarkably.
Poverty shrank, you know, absolutely created in those countries and even in other places that were
sort of the, the second order effects beneficiaries. So yeah, I call it from 1850 to 1970. We had this
world where governments were small. Yes, there were interventions by the, the, the banking
parasites that resulted in shocks to the system and so on. But overall poverty levels
declined and living standards improved. And then centralization and the advance of the welfare
state, the advance of socialism, which is now pervasive in the West, even if people don't
really understand that it is, sought to it that innovation would come to an end,
that productivity would come to an end, productivity improvement would come to an
end and that the growth in median incomes, where median incomes would come to an end.
And so what's happened is the, the solutions we already had found have simply been suppressed
even to the point of being outlawed. So we have the solution to affordability problems.
We have the solution to the emergence of, of strong local cultures and communities.
We know what the solution is. It's been practiced. It was practiced in the West for a century.
But these crazy centralizing maniacs, the bangsters, the transnational capital,
the United Nations types, your Tony Blair's, your Bill Clinton's, your Rothschild's, your
Rockefellers, these absolute nutcases believe in the managerial way, which is to say the
same way tried by Stalin and Mao, to the enormous cost of their civilian populations.
That is what we face. That is what, that is what is in control of the West right now.
And it is the most pernicious set of moral and intellectual ideas that's ever been encountered.
We know why it is like that. We know how it can to be. We can see the history of its
rise. Who propped it up? Who misrepresented it? Who forced it upon us?
And what are we doing as citizens? We're fighting with each other over whether a
bombastic idiot like Trump is better than a vacuous nitwit like Harris.
Or whether, you know, the Mullahs in Iran are better than the Greeks in Israel.
So, you know, the fight is all about that is polarized when we should just be turning around
and saying these complete and utter psychos who are backing both sides in these wars
are not going to get hold of us. We're not going to be helping the fishbowl.
Yeah, absolutely. I want to come back to Iran a bit. I mean, it's actually just wild
the stuff that's going on. So recently, I mean, we're censored from hearing anything from the Iranian
side because, you know, that's just propaganda. We, the West, our governments never do propaganda.
Our governments care about us. You know, we're bombing Iran because we care about the women in
Iran. Forget the Epstein list. Forget the rape and the pillage and the cannibalism and the
child sacrifice and the child trafficking that's being done in the West. No, no, no.
We care about the women in Iran. I mean, that's completely logical. Of course it is, isn't it?
I mean, we can go and target the Iranian regime and the Ayatollah, and by the way, I'm no fan of
them at all. But we can go and target them and assassinate them halfway around the world.
But we can't find anyone on the Epstein list that's done all this child trafficking and child
abuse and arrest them here at home. That is just insane. But who am I to question that?
But now what's even come out, even more wild, I mean, there's this stuff coming out every day
that's insane is, you know, the Iranians have said, their officials have said,
we're bombing US bases and military infrastructure. We're not targeting civilians.
But then in the Middle East, now we've got bombs going off in refineries in UAE in Saudi
Arabia. And now evidence has come out that Israelis, Zionist agents have been captured
planting bombs in the Gulf. They're actually targeting the Gulf like so Iran's attacking
the Gulf and Israel and Israelis are attacking the Gulf. And there's now arguments that the
refineries were actually bombed by Israel as well. And this isn't new. If you go back,
there's a history of this, whether it's the King David Hotel in the Palestine mandate,
whether it's, you know, Operation Ezra and Namiah in Iraq, when Zionists went to Iraq and bombed,
you know, in 1915, 1948, they bombed a synagogue and a Jewish cafe cafe because they wanted the
150,000 Jews who'd been living there for thousands of years to move to Israel. And they were quite
happy there. So they had to, you know, make them think that they were unsafe. And this,
this is a, you know, verifiable, you know, false flag event on themselves.
They also did something in Egypt. I don't know if you know about the Levant Affair in 1954.
You know, there's a history of these Zionist agents attacking their own, attacking British
libraries in Egypt, American cinemas in Egypt, to target their own Jewish population and to
make them go, right, you need to come to Israel to be safe. This false flag thing, and some
people would say the same, the goat, staked goat green flag of October 7th. There's a history
of this. And I find that absolutely incredulous and that no one in the West is actually calling this
out now and saying, what is it? These are meant to be our greatest allies. And actually, they're
putting American lives, British lives now in jeopardy. And okay, so can I, can I just jump
in there because there's a point of an extent to which I'm feeling uncomfortable with what you
say. There's no question that there's projection of false information and propaganda by both sides
in any war. And I have this developed a sort of uncanny valley sensibility that, you know,
where a lot of the material I look at, I see straight away as just being fake. And that's
not only from the US or Israeli side of the affair, also from the Iranian side of the
affair I can see straight away. This is nonsense. This is construct. So I expect to see it.
It's a normal feature of war. What I don't like is the impact on the lives of ordinary Iranians
and on the lives of ordinary Israelis because many of them will die in this conflict too.
And what I try to convince people of is that those ordinary Iranians and those ordinary Israelis
have a common enemy. And that enemy is transatlantic capital.
That world is depraved beyond all belief. It operates, I don't know whether they
sincerely believe the intellectual rationalizations of the globalist architecture or not
because as far as I can tell their criminality is such that I wouldn't put it past them
to believe as I do that centralization is uniformly harmful. But to carry on with it,
because their actual end is destruction. They may believe in something to do with
depopulation or degrowth or something like that with, you know, they may privilege the
position of control over the position of human flourishing to an extent that you and I can't
even begin to imagine. So I don't know whether they believe in that intellectual architecture
they've created or not. But it's wrong. It is fundamentally depraved. And that is the
shared enemy of people all over the world. I don't know what percentage of the earth is not
covered by these people. I can't make up my mind whether Russia and China have meaningful sovereignty
in this regard. I think maybe North Korea does and maybe Cuba does and maybe, you know,
but these are nations that have been punished for decades and which
hardly count in the broader scheme of things. But when it comes to nations like China and Russia,
I do have to scratch my head a bit. But whatever the answer is, these freaks
are in control of the show right now. And they're the common enemy.
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Absolutely. And I agree with all of that. So listen, the enemy of man is government.
So that's where I'm statism. Statism is a religion. And I had this brilliant guest on
my show. I don't know if you've ever heard of me. This pen name is Etienne Dula Bueti, number two.
Have you ever heard of Etienne Dula Bueti? Yes. Yes. Which just showed me the book again.
Government, the biggest scam in history. Yeah. So he writes on Substite. But do you know who
the original Etienne Dula Bueti? I think I think what's the organization called again?
Let's give them a let's give them a plug because I think they sent me books as well.
Art of Liberty or something like that? Yes, something like that.
Or the Liberty Foundation. Yeah, I'll tell you what I can do is quickly just check my email box for
that name. Can I can I can I just tell you about him? So basically, so do you know about
the original Etienne? Do you know anything about him? It's the Art of Liberty Foundation,
by the way. Art of Liberty Foundation. Yes. So the original Etienne, the original Etienne
lived in the 1500s in France. He was a philosopher. I think he died in his 30s.
But when he was just 20, when he was just 20, he wrote a book called The Discourse of Voluntary
Servitude. And he argued that man himself voluntarily gave away his freedom and serviced
and and and served the tyrants, that the tyrants were not the ones using force to oppress man.
We voluntarily just gave our powers away. And he said, you know, and he wrote a discourse about,
you know, stop doing this. This is how we do it. And it's not just the tyrants at the top.
We have to accept our role in this as well. You know, it's not all their fault. Like,
we participate in this. We allow this. And it's just amazing that five, 600 years later,
we're still having the same conversation. We're still, we're still doing this. We're still serving
the tyrants like this, which is just amazing. Anyway, this guy, this fella, the latest incarnation
of Etienne, his name is actually Howard Lichtman. He's amazing. He was adopted when he was
just six days old by a Jewish family, lovely Jewish family. And he's been brought up
Jewish in his culture, his friends, his family, everybody. And so no one can accuse him of being
anti-Semitic. But he passionately argues, and he's stated on the podcast, look at him, the reality is
we're now being run by a cabal, a mafia organization at the top, a criminal trans global
organization that is on the face of it, Jewish, but they are not Jewish religious.
And they then employ Kapos from the Jewish networks. But that's not to say all Jews are bad,
just like not all Italians are bad. There's an Italian mafia. There's an Albanian mafia.
There's an East London, whatever mafia. There are mafias everywhere. But right now,
the argument he's saying is that the mafia is superficially Jewish. And the problem is
most Jewish people now don't appreciate that and are fearful of criticizing them
because they feel like they're criticizing their own tribe. Just like most doctors are fearful of
speaking out against the medical profession because they're calling out their own people.
And actually, what we need to do is realize these are not Jewish people. These are not
religious people. This is not the religion. This is not, it's not all Muslims. It's not
bad evil satanic people that are doing this. It's so clear to me that these are people who
possess no loyalty to creed or culture. And I think you might even go further and say
they might claim a nominal degree of Jewishness so that they can hide behind the barrier afforded
by the slur of anti-Semitism. I mean, take the Rothschild family, for example, Ariane Rothschild.
Who was mentioned five and a half thousand times in the Epstein files,
is by birth not Jewish. And when she married into the Rothschild family, declined to convert
to Magai. She kind of stated it out of herself as an atheist. And Nathaniel Rothschild, I think
is, I might be right in saying that his wife, mother, maybe even his grandmother are not Jewish,
which as far as most Jews are concerned makes him not Jewish. I mean, to call the Rothschilds
Jewish at this stage, I think just because they have in the past supported Israel is a bit silly.
I mean, you know, the support of Israel was for geopolitical strategic reasons,
a way to destabilize the Middle East and ensure that they could continue to rape
that place as well as they raped South Africa. You know, you've got to stop
thinking about them or allowing people to tell you that you're criticizing Jews. And
the very interesting thing for me the other day, I sat in a debate, and it wasn't a screams debate,
this was in a private discussion. And I found myself quoting the following people,
Rothbard von Mises, von Hayek, Friedman and von Neumann and David Deutsch.
And I suddenly realized, and this is in defense of liberty in, to attack centralization,
I'm quoting these people. And I suddenly sat back and realized, what are we actually even fighting
about? All six of those people are Jewish and properly Jewish. And so the greatest defendants
of decentralization, the greatest intellectual defenders of decentralization and civil
liberties of localization and community are a bunch of Jews. And we will be thankful to them.
And so no, I'm not going to be told that that being against globalization and being against
bankers is somehow anti-Semitic. When I arm myself with an intellectual shield and spear
that is deeply and perversively Jewish and attack people who are only superficially Jewish.
Absolutely. I don't want to go down this rabbit hole anymore because we're done. We're done.
Yeah, we're done. We're done. So let's tell me, where do you think this is going to go now with
Iran? Like, do you think this is just a little wee proxy war? Do you think this is just like,
you know, they're going to stop now not proxy war, like a little, you know, fake war? Or do
you think they're going to go full on? Do you think this is going to be like an Iraq invasion?
Do you think this is the beginning of World War III? What are we dealing with here?
Yeah, it's always tough to analyze at the time. But we have a couple of common characteristics.
First of all, there's a fake argument about weapons of mass destruction.
There's an argument advanced around the tyrannical nature of a regime.
And so those are the sort of, that's the castle's belly, if you like, being advanced here.
But what can we say about other examples of recent wars? Well, in the case of the Syrian
campaign, there was a regime change, but they replaced a type of regime with the worst one
and ensured ongoing instability in that country, probably indefinite. This was multi-generational
stuff that they're dealing with now, no matter what is done. There's also a vein of
understanding that needs to go around the objectives of this elite parasitic elite in
terms of creating what they term a multipolar world. And there's a balance of
power issues, for example, the fact that China gets most of its oil from Iran and so on,
that might be being addressed in this program. There are stories going around the question of
the independence from the Rothschild Central Bank in cartel of the Iranian Central Bank.
That's not something I've looked into very deeply. I don't understand the governance of Iran's
central bank at all. And then there are stories that cast it in terms of
language of the crusades and of religious conflict and so on. So there are all these
arguments being thrown around and more. I'm sure if I took a deep breath, I could
give you another five minutes of arguments, actually, that I've heard people advancing.
And it could be that all of those are in play for different factions who are supportive
of this campaign. And it would then depend on which of those factions are dominant in the
hierarchy. Unlike you, I don't see it as an organization sitting at the top of the world.
I see it more as a class of people with conflicting ambitions and reasons and
and internalizing conflicts from time to time and people who are so greedy and so criminal that
I'm sure they would stab anybody from an outside group who happens to be in the same class in
the back at the moment's notice if they saw the opportunity, if they saw the interest.
I think the same thing. I don't think there's an organization at all.
I think there's very powerful families and an interest and networks. I think that's what you
have. I don't think there's like one single controlling. Okay, I already picked up on it
because you used that you might have inadvertently used the term organization just now.
So what I'm going what I'm leading to here is that this could be a forever war.
You know, they were like the Ukraine situation where it suits the holding patterns suits
transnational capital. Or it could be a situation where they go, oh, we've miscalculated.
If we carry on with this, Tel Aviv is going to get smoked and we don't want that.
And then they found a way to navigate towards a quick off ramp.
Or it could be that China turns around and makes a move that they hadn't predicted
and says, look, if you don't open up the Straits of Hormuz and if you don't settle this
and reopen the Straits of Hormuz like tomorrow, then we are going to do this.
So I think it's a brave man who would make predictions about the likely trajectory here.
And I don't think it's worth spending too much time on it because the problem is so
multifaceted. What can we learn from the situation? Well, if you had your hopes in
Trump and we're a great maggot supporter, you've just revealed yourself that the world
has just revealed you to have been sadly diluted somewhere between a goldfish and an idiot.
And this is a time to pause and reflect. Trump is not saving you. No government is yet to
save you. No globalist is yet to save you. This is a time to reflect. The man stood on the
stage saying he didn't need to go to war with Iran just a few months ago. He told everyone that he
had terminated Iran's nuclear campaign. His own head of the intelligence agencies was formed rather
recently denying that Iran posed any kind of nuclear threat. The head of the United Nations
inspectorate has come out saying there is no sign of a nuclear program. So are these people to be
believed absolutely? Are we to believe them then and not now or now and not then? Of course,
in the great world of fabrication and fakery, AI fakes and speeches thrust into the hands of
nominal leaders who are actually puppets. It is very difficult to know what people genuinely
believe and what the facts on the ground actually are. I caution people all the time not to respond
to the headlines no matter how horrifying or on which side of the debate they may be receiving
them from. Absolutely. I think part of it is they want you to be emotional. They want you to be taking
sides. They want you enraged. That's how they capture you. And actually the best thing to do
is to stand back like an observer. And as hard as that sounds to be dispassionate and almost
robotic, just look at things as an observer. Don't get emotionally involved because that's
what they want to do. They want to suck you in and they want you picking sides and fighting amongst
each other. This argument, that argument, this is the case. This is the case because all the time
you're doing that, you're distracted from the real enemy. You're not looking at really who is
controlling us and what they're doing to us. So I 100% agree with you. And it's just like,
I just don't know how we're going to get out of this. Like, you know, we're talking about
things like stable coins and tokenization, you know, stuff that we didn't know about
10 years ago. All these financial instruments and all this control grid just seems to be being made
every single day. You've got data, AI centers being made all the time. And it's so ridiculous. It's
in your face to talk about climate change and CO2 emissions. But the biggest thing, the biggest
growth right now on CO2 emissions and energy consumption are all these massive data centers
which are required for this constant surveillance control grid that they're building.
And it's like, you know, which is it? Do we have climate change or not? Do we want to cut emissions
or not? Because if we want to cut emissions, why are we making all these data centers?
And I think it's more than just money. If it was about money, they print all the money.
They have all the money already, these bankers, these trans, globalists, whatever you want to
call them, you know, it's, what is that about? What are they doing? And how do we get out of
this mess? A pessimistic person would say, we never do. This is the nature of the world.
And it's only owing to the fact that we are born into an information age that we are able
to pierce its fail and see the real nature of power. I think that's the pessimistic answer
that it was ever thus and it will continue and we find a way.
I have a more optimistic bent. I think this is a wave of unusual centralization and accretion of
power. But centralization is its own undoing. It's a modestly optimistic prognosis for the
reason that in the process of the undoing of centralization, great harm will be done.
There will be immense suffering. So then your program should be to ignore what is going on
and focus on your local community and on building yourself, on making sure that your
skill set is not too balkanized. Because that's one of the things that this managerial world
does to a great many people that causes them to specialize to an extraordinary degree so that
they become outside of a very narrow terms of reference, they become, you know, entirely
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