WEBVTT 00:00.560 --> 00:06.100 Well, I want to talk about something, going back to that COVID response, that hard, heavy-handed 00:06.100 --> 00:10.700 COVID response. As I'm seeing the joke go around online, the idea of natural immunity 00:10.700 --> 00:15.300 has been known for thousands of years throughout humanity, and it was somehow forgotten right 00:15.300 --> 00:21.160 around 2020 when COVID happened. And it wasn't maybe forgotten as it was suppressed. 00:21.780 --> 00:26.680 So just to bring people back there, the Lancet, scientific consensus, anytime you 00:26.680 --> 00:31.020 see these words, you have to, your spidey sense has to go up, but they put this out in October 00:31.480 --> 00:37.240 of 2020. Scientific consensus on COVID-19 pandemic, we need to act now. It says, 00:37.360 --> 00:42.320 any pandemic management strategy relying upon immunity from natural infections for COVID-19 00:42.320 --> 00:47.620 is flawed. This was signed by top medical experts, Rochelle Linsky, the director of the CDC, 00:48.200 --> 00:52.120 goes on to say, furthermore, there's no evidence for lasting protective immunity 00:52.120 --> 00:57.940 to SARS-CoV-2 following natural infection. This was before the COVID shot came out, October 2020. 00:58.320 --> 01:03.920 COVID shot first goes into the arm in December of 2020 in the United States. So they're saying, 01:04.580 --> 01:08.460 forget about it, forget about it, don't even think about it. In fact, remember too, 01:08.720 --> 01:12.680 as we know from Peter McCull and others, forget about early treatment, forget about everything, 01:12.960 --> 01:18.220 just wait for that vaccine. Well, now we have internal emails from Anthony Fauci. 01:18.680 --> 01:24.320 This is the headline here, Daily Caller, exclusive Fauci privately called natural immunity data 01:24.320 --> 01:30.560 impressive before forcing jabs on Americans. Let's go right to these emails, August of 2021. 01:31.300 --> 01:35.880 So the vaccine mandates were well into effect at this point. They were being given out, 01:36.020 --> 01:40.660 they were starting to be pressed heavy handed. Fauci writes an email to Francis Collins, 01:41.000 --> 01:46.860 to CDC director, Rochelle Linsky, and the subject of this email is post infection protection 01:46.860 --> 01:51.360 versus vaccine immunity. It can't get any more clearer than that. And he says this, he's looking 01:51.360 --> 01:56.480 at Israeli data. Because remember Benjamin Netanyahu, leader of Israel, he basically was the first 01:56.480 --> 02:00.460 to jab his population with the Pfizer vaccine. So there was a lot of interest in how this 02:00.460 --> 02:04.500 open air experiment would work. People were studying those people that took that jab. 02:04.860 --> 02:10.100 And so Fauci gets some studies on the Israeli data on natural immunity. He says this, 02:10.400 --> 02:15.040 the data as reported in the news article looks rather impressive despite the caveat 02:15.040 --> 02:20.120 that it is a retrospective study and the testing was voluntary. However, it is conceivable and 02:20.120 --> 02:25.300 possibly likely that those who have had a serious systemic infection develop a high level of 02:25.300 --> 02:31.640 immunity that even surpasses that of full vaccination. Wow. Wow. Well, possibly likely. 02:33.600 --> 02:39.310 Okay. Possibly likely it's better. And by the way, Jeffrey, we were reporting on this, 02:39.310 --> 02:45.290 we're going to talk about all the way through, but the vaccine program has forever been attempting 02:45.290 --> 02:52.790 to achieve the incredible robust nature of natural infection. It has never, ever achieved. We said 02:52.790 --> 02:57.970 this during COVID. I will still say it. We have never seen a vaccine that performs better 02:57.970 --> 03:04.030 than surviving a natural infection. We can argue how dangerous that natural infection was and all 03:04.030 --> 03:09.230 the other things. But what you cannot argue is the fact that it always has provided more 03:09.230 --> 03:17.430 robust protection, longer lasting, deeper, more thorough rejection of the infection. 03:18.090 --> 03:22.970 And so this would have been an anomaly. This COVID-19 vaccine rushed on the market, 03:23.130 --> 03:28.090 would have been the first time in history a vaccine performed better. And we know there 03:28.090 --> 03:33.170 was no way they had taken the time to do the science to prove that this was an anomaly, 03:33.290 --> 03:36.930 the one of a kind that is finally doing better than natural infection. And now 03:36.930 --> 03:42.450 we're finally being proved, right, that they weren't as stupid as we thought they knew better. 03:43.230 --> 03:49.330 Exactly. Fauci saying rather impressive behind closed doors, publicly not even giving any credence 03:49.330 --> 03:53.370 to natural immunity. It's the shot. It's the shot. It's the shot. So in that same email 03:53.370 --> 03:58.690 string, you have John Brooks. He's the CDC's chief medical officer of the COVID-19 response. 03:59.510 --> 04:04.870 And he puts together kind of like a meta analysis of all the data to that point 04:04.870 --> 04:08.870 of natural immunity. So what do we know? Because this looks rather impressive. He says, 04:08.890 --> 04:13.850 let me put this together. This is what he says. Okay. So it seems now for at least three very 04:13.850 --> 04:19.590 different analysis of different data that at least mRNA vaccine effectiveness is about as 04:19.590 --> 04:23.730 good as infection induced immunity, but the main induced immunity wanes over time, 04:23.730 --> 04:29.650 especially that induced by Pfizer's vaccine, whereas infection induced may be more durable 04:29.650 --> 04:35.090 up to at least the four to six month mark. So remember at the time, that's early on, 04:35.290 --> 04:40.170 they really only had data up to the six month mark. So he's basically saying this vaccine, 04:40.390 --> 04:45.650 this Pfizer vaccine wanes, but maxing out what we know right now, natural immunity is going, 04:45.870 --> 04:50.930 going the distance. So what conclusion does he makes? Does he say, we should study this more, 04:51.230 --> 04:56.170 we should maybe balance this, maybe we should test people that have natural immunity. So we 04:56.170 --> 04:59.810 have to force the vaccine, the spirit mental vaccine on them. No, this is the conclusion 04:59.810 --> 05:04.770 that Mr. Brooks makes Dr. Brooks makes. He says this, the good news here is that boosters look 05:04.770 --> 05:10.090 like a solution. Maybe this will be a three dose vaccine. After all, basically he says, 05:10.310 --> 05:14.270 we should offer boosters because the vaccine is not working. Natural immunity looks really 05:14.270 --> 05:17.270 good. Let's just get people more vaccines. I mean, I think that's the heart of it, 05:17.350 --> 05:23.110 Jeffrey. People are seeing what my beep has been all along doctors and the scientific 05:23.110 --> 05:28.950 establishment is so into fighting nature, to doing better than nature already does. Or 05:28.950 --> 05:34.310 if you're, you know, a religious person to do better than God created you, so that even when 05:34.310 --> 05:40.270 it's clear your natural body, your natural immune system performs far better than under 05:40.270 --> 05:45.710 this vaccine regime, their answer isn't, well, let's just back off and let people have natural 05:45.710 --> 05:50.510 immunity. No, let's try three boosters or four or five or seven or nine. And now we're 05:50.510 --> 05:57.610 at 10. This is how crazy establishment medicine and science is. They will never give up. They 05:57.610 --> 06:04.330 will never admit they're lost, you know? And that's, it's really, really unfortunate and quite 06:04.330 --> 06:08.390 scary. And I don't know how people are going to ever get back to a place of trust. 06:09.470 --> 06:13.490 And as, remember, as they kicked off the mandates, they had data showing natural immunity 06:13.490 --> 06:18.830 was better. So whether it's conflicts of interest or just religious dogma at this point, 06:19.330 --> 06:23.790 you really don't want these people running your public health leads when a once in a lifetime 06:23.790 --> 06:29.510 pandemic comes in because they make those decisions. In fact, here's Paul Offit in retrospect, 06:30.090 --> 06:33.170 having a moment of clarity on this very topic. Take a listen. 06:33.770 --> 06:41.370 In February of 2022, I was asked with three other immunology, virology types to participate in 06:41.370 --> 06:46.830 a conference call about whether or not natural infection should count as a vaccine. In other 06:46.830 --> 06:51.670 words, for those areas that were still mandating vaccine, which was many in early 2022, whether 06:51.670 --> 06:56.350 they should be able to say, look, here, I was naturally infected here. This should serve as 06:56.350 --> 07:05.870 my vaccine card. And that meeting was held with Rochelle Lensky, Tony Fauci, Vivek Murthy, 07:06.310 --> 07:11.490 Murthy from, you know, Surgeon General's office and Francis Collins. And then me and 07:11.490 --> 07:15.310 three other immunology, virology types. We voted on it. And it was sort of tuted to, 07:15.310 --> 07:19.710 basically. I mean, I was one of the, I think, natural infection should count for obvious reasons. 07:19.930 --> 07:22.370 I mean, actually you're making immune response to all four viral proteins. 07:22.890 --> 07:27.190 In many ways, make a broader site of types of T cell response. I think you're better off in many 07:27.190 --> 07:32.990 ways. So I saw Dr. Fauci at a meeting maybe a year ago or so, because I was already getting out 07:32.990 --> 07:36.270 there saying, I think we should target high risk groups. But where I was getting a lot of 07:36.270 --> 07:40.930 pushback from public health, people who felt that I had gotten off the bus, because see, 07:40.990 --> 07:44.150 that was the whole feeling in this. You know, you're either on the bus or off the bus, 07:44.150 --> 07:50.590 and there was no in between. So I got, I said, Tony, am I wrong? Am I wrong in making? He said, 07:50.630 --> 07:55.190 no, you're right. We should target high risk groups. The problem is, many of you say that, 07:55.970 --> 07:59.950 it becomes a nuanced message. And a nuanced message is a garbled message. If you really 07:59.950 --> 08:03.270 want to make sure those groups get vaccinated, then you recommend it for everybody. 08:03.990 --> 08:08.530 I mean, he is literally admitting, we will lie to you. We will lie. We'll do whatever it 08:08.530 --> 08:14.950 takes to get you to vaccinate. We don't want the complications of having to say, well, if you've 08:14.950 --> 08:21.150 already had the infection, you're immune, because then we'd have to test. I mean, what's unbelievable 08:21.150 --> 08:27.450 about this and so infuriating is they were literally testing us like two, three times a day 08:27.450 --> 08:30.730 if you worked in Hollywood. Preschoolers couldn't go to school without being tested. 08:30.990 --> 08:35.770 But God forbid you say, I don't want the vaccine. Can you test me to see if I'm 08:35.770 --> 08:39.670 telling you I'm infected, but go ahead and test me. I'll prove it so I can opt out of the vaccine. 08:39.890 --> 08:43.650 No, we can't do that. We will test you for every other reason that makes your life 08:43.650 --> 08:48.730 a complete and total inconvenience. But God forbid we test to see if you're naturally immune. 08:49.190 --> 08:53.150 And Jeffrey, I want to point out that Paul off at The Liar and all the people, 08:53.310 --> 08:58.110 Walensky, and not only the saying they will lie, they will get the Lancet to publish 08:58.110 --> 09:04.190 a lying journal article. They will lie through peer reviewed science. This 09:04.190 --> 09:10.670 is why we can never, ever let these people off the hook. And lastly, by the time he is 09:10.670 --> 09:16.890 discovering this, by the time Biden is mandating this product so that you can go to work, odds are 09:16.890 --> 09:23.590 this virus has already swept the entire world. We were all already naturally immune. If anything, 09:23.910 --> 09:28.590 there was no science on what the risk would be taking this after you had developed immunity. 09:28.590 --> 09:35.670 Good chance it maybe took away your broad-based immunity that we've gotten into many, many times 09:35.670 --> 09:41.190 and then narrowed it down to just what they're vaccinating for. This is such a disaster. It is 09:41.190 --> 09:48.610 so incredibly infuriating. We knew it, but now to see it right before our eyes and they're 09:48.610 --> 09:55.210 admitting it, maybe even chuckling about it. Jeffrey, and then to think that idiots like 09:55.210 --> 10:01.410 Gavin Newsom in California is going to break away from the CDC's recommendation and not give this 10:01.410 --> 10:06.830 to children. No, no, no, we're giving it to kids. It looks like Hawaii wants to follow suit right now. 10:06.990 --> 10:11.250 And of course, Connecticut, you've got this West Coast contingent, East Coast contingent, 10:11.290 --> 10:17.410 because we plan on staying stupid and being dangerous to our population despite any science. 10:17.610 --> 10:20.970 We will lie. We're sticking with a lie. We're sticking to it. 10:21.950 --> 10:27.450 It's really an anti-science danger to their populations with those governors that are pushing 10:27.450 --> 10:32.630 these COVID shots on children at this point. But I want to stick on Fauci for a second because 10:33.190 --> 10:39.730 Senator Rand Paul was recently on Joe Rogan. And the conversation came up of why 10:40.330 --> 10:44.150 is Fauci still a free man? Why is he walking around? And this is what Rand Paul had to say. 10:44.250 --> 10:49.250 Take a listen. Good question. Under the Biden administration, I sent criminal 10:49.250 --> 10:55.230 referrals for Anthony Fauci to Merritt Garland twice, and I sent them evidence that he had lied 10:55.230 --> 11:00.790 to Congress, which was a felony. They just ignored me. I've been working with Bobby Kennedy, and 11:00.790 --> 11:04.950 he's been very helpful on this. I have good relationship with him. He's given us a lot of 11:04.950 --> 11:09.430 information, and we've looked at the communications. And in Anthony Fauci's communications, 11:09.790 --> 11:12.630 we now have evidence that he was telling people like Francis Collins, 11:13.030 --> 11:17.890 read this and destroy it. We can't do that. The executive branch, when they communicate, 11:17.890 --> 11:21.970 they're required to keep their communications, and they're required to do it on government devices. 11:22.670 --> 11:25.810 So we have this evidence, and I've summarized it again in a criminal referral 11:27.150 --> 11:31.250 to Trump's attorney general, and I still haven't gotten action. But there's a couple 11:31.250 --> 11:35.310 reasons we should do it. One, that he shouldn't get away with lying. He shouldn't get away 11:35.310 --> 11:40.670 with destroying records. But two, we should check the pardon. Is an auto pen pardon valid? 11:41.010 --> 11:45.950 And is a pardon a retrospective pardon back 10 years that doesn't mention a crime? 11:45.950 --> 11:51.270 Can you give people pardon for everything they did in 10-year period? I can't imagine, 11:51.450 --> 11:55.290 and I think the court might narrow that. But it doesn't happen unless the 11:55.290 --> 11:59.790 Trump Justice Department will do something. And I've been sending them referrals, 12:00.010 --> 12:04.070 and I can't get them to do anything. I can't guarantee they'll win. They might lose. 12:04.390 --> 12:06.890 But they ought to go to court. Take this, take it to court. 12:08.170 --> 12:11.190 You know, it's interesting, too, because just right in the back of what we said, 12:11.190 --> 12:15.770 one of the main things that woke Rand Paul up was he had an infection very early on, 12:15.770 --> 12:22.990 and when they kept trying to force vaccinate him in order to go into Congress and be on the floor, 12:23.550 --> 12:28.390 he said, I have had the illness. I have immunity. I'm not against the vaccine, 12:28.410 --> 12:34.090 but I don't personally need it. And of course, he's been on the front row of proving that 12:34.090 --> 12:38.870 Fauci lied under oath on gain of function. We now know it. He is now talking about these 12:38.870 --> 12:44.250 emails where we see saying destroy this afterwards. I mean, this is a criminal that was in our government, 12:44.250 --> 12:47.930 and it's a really good question. And we're going to live in a world where the president just says, 12:48.190 --> 12:54.590 I blanket, you know, protect from any liability, anyone that worked in my administration from, 12:54.590 --> 12:58.930 you know, during it, before, after, you know, in the years to come. You can do whatever you 12:58.930 --> 13:05.370 want because you're never going to go to court. It just doesn't make sense. And I think that 13:05.370 --> 13:10.230 we should be challenging. And you would think that of all the presidents of all times, President 13:10.230 --> 13:16.510 Trump would be, you know, chomping at the bit to, you know, prosecute this and see what we know. 13:16.750 --> 13:23.050 It's curious why we're not. Yeah. And this is a topic we've been tracking for some time now 13:23.050 --> 13:27.190 with the new administration in there, also a new Department of Justice. They reshuffled the 13:27.190 --> 13:31.430 deck at a lot of those levels at Department of Justice. We've been watching. We've been 13:31.430 --> 13:37.190 paying attention. And this is a conversation for the make America healthy again, people, 13:37.310 --> 13:42.710 because they've been watching too. And I hear it everywhere I go. So let's go into this topic, 13:42.850 --> 13:46.850 this investigation. And I don't know if I know the answer to it, but I'm going to try to put 13:46.850 --> 13:51.230 some puzzle pieces together and hopefully we can build on this. So the Department of Justice is 13:51.230 --> 13:56.670 now headed by the Attorney General Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi in her Office of Government Ethics, 13:56.670 --> 14:01.970 Public Financial Disclosure Report, which everyone had to, you know, if you're going into office, 14:02.150 --> 14:05.270 you have to fill this out. Kennedy had to fill it out. Everyone has to fill it out, 14:05.350 --> 14:10.450 take a government position. In there, on line seven, she worked for a law firm, 14:10.650 --> 14:15.570 or she actually was contracted by a law firm, Panza Mara and Maynard, and they represented 14:15.570 --> 14:21.990 Pfizer. So, and she was awarded money for that, or she made money for that over $5,000 14:21.990 --> 14:27.090 that was compensation exceeding over $5,000, I believe it was $200,000 for that year. 14:27.570 --> 14:34.030 So that's just a data point we're going to keep on because you hear Rand Paul there saying, 14:34.330 --> 14:38.430 I submitted this criminal referral to the Biden Justice Department. Okay, well, 14:38.590 --> 14:43.670 kind of a different way they did things back then. During the civil rights abusing COVID times 14:43.670 --> 14:49.630 and lack of informed consent and so on and so forth. But he said, I submitted to the Trump 14:49.630 --> 14:54.470 Justice Department headed by Pam Bondi and has heard nothing yet. So what's going on there? 14:54.710 --> 14:59.550 Well, if that was just a one off thing, okay, maybe there's a lot going on, which there probably 14:59.550 --> 15:03.970 is the Department of Justice is a massive organization with a lot of sub organizations 15:03.970 --> 15:10.790 under it and sub offices, a lot going on, not making excuses here. But then we see these, 15:10.810 --> 15:15.470 these ducks start to line up in a row of questions. And so I'm going to put those 15:15.470 --> 15:21.510 out here. So we have in 2024, September 2024, federal court rules against EPA and lawsuit over 15:21.510 --> 15:27.910 fluoride and water. This was a huge maha hot button topic is water fluoridation in the United States. 15:28.010 --> 15:33.050 Remember, we had studies came out that showed it lowered IQ in children. So this was a citizen 15:33.050 --> 15:38.290 petition that went to court that they lost the EPA loss. The court said you have to go back, 15:38.430 --> 15:43.170 you have to basically reformulate either the regulatory actions or you have to come out 15:43.170 --> 15:47.330 and find a way a path out of the current water fluoridation paradigm we're in right now. 15:47.750 --> 15:52.490 Out of nowhere, we have the Trump Justice Department come in, makes this headline, 15:52.690 --> 15:58.490 Trump administration fights historic fluoride ruling. So we go to Michael Conant. He's the 15:58.490 --> 16:03.730 lead attorney that is putting forth this legal action against the EPA. He saw this all the 16:03.730 --> 16:07.810 way through and he puts out this on X after several extensions of Trump administration and 16:07.810 --> 16:12.090 decided to appeal the federal court decision ordering EPA to address the risk posed by 16:12.090 --> 16:16.690 water fluoridation. He goes on to say rather than use the court's decision as an opportunity to 16:16.690 --> 16:21.410 finally end water fluoridation as most of Europe has already done, the EPA will spend its time 16:21.410 --> 16:26.070 legally challenging the court's order. Conant goes on to say the decision to appeal the court's 16:26.070 --> 16:31.510 order was not made by the HHS or Secretary Kennedy. It was made by the solicitor general 16:31.510 --> 16:35.890 of the Department of Justice who reports to Pam Bondi and the White House goes on to say 16:35.890 --> 16:40.830 Kennedy's been clear with this part here. So what's going on there? Why are they stepping 16:40.830 --> 16:46.070 in front of this? This seemed like a slow-pitched softball home run. Get this water fluoridation 16:46.070 --> 16:49.350 out. It's been going on for a while. This science is adding up. We have a court ruling, 16:49.510 --> 16:54.430 a court win. All EPA has to do is go back and make the changes the court ordered. 16:54.910 --> 16:58.250 But then we have this story we've been reporting on for a couple weeks now. Trump 16:58.250 --> 17:04.130 administration sides with Bear in seeking Supreme Court ruling in roundup fight. Remember, 17:04.130 --> 17:11.110 Bear is losing and has been for almost a decade in court in states losing cancer cases 17:11.870 --> 17:18.110 showing that glyphosate, their roundup product causes cancer to the tune of billions and their 17:18.110 --> 17:22.730 stock price is plummeted. They're trying to stop the bleeding. In one last final appeal they're 17:22.730 --> 17:28.170 appealing to the Supreme Court saying, please take this up. We need to stop this. And the 17:28.170 --> 17:32.670 Trump administration steps in. In fact, the solicitor general who reports to Pam Bondi 17:33.310 --> 17:37.130 steps in and says, you should take up this appeal. Well, this is kind of the breaking news here. 17:37.330 --> 17:41.970 Reuters puts out US Supreme Court to hear Bear's bid to curb roundup cases. They're going to hear 17:41.970 --> 17:47.470 this. There is no date set hearing perhaps this summer, sometime around July. We're going to 17:47.470 --> 17:52.610 have this Supreme Court hearing. So again, you have the solicitor general. So with the 17:52.610 --> 18:01.050 fluoride case, with this case, you go in and you see who signs these appeals from the 18:01.050 --> 18:06.470 Department of Justice site map of all of the offices, all of the sub offices within here. 18:06.810 --> 18:10.590 And a lot of it is coming out of the Department of Justice Environment and Natural Resources 18:10.590 --> 18:16.310 Division. That's who a lot of these people who are signing these appeals are originating from. 18:16.510 --> 18:22.670 Of course, the solicitor general, it is his job as John Sauer. His job is to put these 18:22.670 --> 18:27.210 forward. He's kind of the point man on this. And his job as a solicitor general is to 18:27.210 --> 18:31.810 step in on these legal arguments. So you're going to see his name on those. But it's really 18:31.810 --> 18:35.610 this environment and natural resources division. So the question is, which I don't know if we know 18:35.610 --> 18:41.350 the answer to yet. Is this Pambani wielding authoritarian power to kill all these massive 18:41.350 --> 18:47.550 MAHA initiatives and not to prosecute Fauci? Or are there other organizations? Are there 18:47.550 --> 18:53.770 stay behind networks? Are there small cut out organizations within the Department of Justice 18:53.770 --> 18:59.850 that are running this outside of the view of the entire department and also outside of the 18:59.850 --> 19:03.770 view of the administration and which way the current wind blows and what the people elected 19:03.770 --> 19:08.230 Trump and Kennedy to get done? That is the question that we leave our viewers with. But 19:08.230 --> 19:12.750 something is not right in the Department of Justice, at least when it comes to the MAHA 19:12.750 --> 19:18.090 agenda, because these are massive pillars that are not being, I mean, these should be 19:18.090 --> 19:22.690 easily pushed away and they're not. They're being trampled on and they're being brought 19:22.690 --> 19:27.610 back with the fury. They're going out of their way. I mean, it'd be one thing to just look the 19:27.610 --> 19:32.710 other way, but to go out of your way and block initiatives that are moving forward or 19:32.710 --> 19:36.750 force Supreme Court to look at something that they have no interest in looking at. 19:36.910 --> 19:41.070 And it seems to be well decided in courts that this stuff is causing cancer. When we're talking 19:41.070 --> 19:45.570 about glyphosate and Roundup, we know it's causing cancer. It's losing cases. 19:46.110 --> 19:50.310 Yeah. What was it you just reported was the Congress took out of the latest bill, 19:50.910 --> 19:56.210 sort of the liability protection. Even our government is backed away from getting involved 19:56.210 --> 20:02.250 here. But yet the Trump administration, it's the heart of MAHA, make America healthy again, 20:02.790 --> 20:06.050 appears to be just lowering the bar to make America healthier. 20:06.610 --> 20:12.490 As long as it doesn't take away toxic chemicals on our food, toxic chemicals in our water, 20:12.510 --> 20:17.070 we'll do the best we can. I'm sure, I mean, what we see is the complications of the work 20:17.070 --> 20:21.550 that Bobby has to do in there because you couldn't have someone more outspoken on fluoride, 20:22.590 --> 20:28.430 both during his life before public office, but even in public office. And of course, 20:28.530 --> 20:34.670 glyphosate is a huge part of the work he's done too. So it's disturbing when we're getting 20:35.200 --> 20:40.310 two different stories conflicting with each other right inside of our own government system.