All right. Well, we're here ladies and gentlemen back with our good friend Adam Bigelson and the mysterious
Josh Bigelson the other half we've heard so much about but didn't really think you existed. We thought you were AI
Adams imagination
Here I am right now
Adams imagination AI
But yeah, Josh, it's really really great to meet you. I
Kind of got turned on to you guys Adam and I heard about you guys right before two years ago
Anarcha Poco and I had been looking into like Dr. Emoto and all the stuff Vita Austin's into
I've been looking at alternative, you know metaphysical health and things for years
But I had never seen the holographic blood and when I first saw that I just went oh my god
You know, I couldn't even I was like is this for real or what?
Yeah, and it was really really a trip so
For me, it's been a real pleasure to kind of get into you guys's work and hear the story of your dad and all that
Pretty much the pioneer like you guys can talk about him a bit
But I thought today it would be great because you guys have some courses coming up, but I
Don't really even know everything the Bigelson Academy does you guys had do so much there
So if you guys are game, I'd love to introduce you to
Our fans and listeners and like
Talk through everything you guys kind of do, you know, and then we can talk about the courses and who you're looking for and who you're maybe not
Yeah, maybe I mean Josh, why don't you introduce yourself first since I've talked I've had Adam on twice before so
Maybe just tell us how you're involved
Nice. Um, yeah, I was I've worked I worked on it off with my dad since
1989 I think it's when I first started working with him
But it was really, you know 15 years pretty much side by side. So I was down there
In the trenches, you know, I got to see some of the attacks and things like that towards the end
You know, I wasn't part of you know, a lot of the abuse he got in the early days when
The AMA was coming after him Medicare was coming after him and all those great people were coming after him because he got results
Um, you know, so but I got to see I got to see people get better
You know, I worked side by side in the clinic
I've been doing the blood for probably over 20 years, but the blood is just a tiny part of what we do
You know, that just gives us the view into the terrain
So, you know, it's really the philosophy that's really important and you know, so, you know working with dad. It was interesting because
You know, I always thought people go to doctors and they get better
And then the last time our clinic got shut down, I had to go work with other doctors and it was like
Well, what the well, what are these what are these doctors doing right now?
I have no idea why you're doing that. Why are you prescribing that?
What do you do and these were alternative doctors and I literally saw nobody get better in two years
And I didn't understand why and you know, this was only 10 years ago
So for the first 40 years of my life, I thought people go to doctors. They get better
You know, I was like, no, they went to certain doctors and certain doctors could help people
But a lot of times tradition down alternative, you know, they were kind of green allopaths
So they were going out for the symptom. They weren't really worried about the cause or they couldn't figure out the cause
Or even worse like we see these days. They made up what the cause was
Right because it fits into their narrative and here's your supplement or here's your stupid thing that you can buy to fix everything
So, you know, I got an interesting
Upbringing and it's only been the last bunch of years where Adam and I I think realized that were kind of aliens
You know, even during the the pandemic. It's like I felt like I got dumber listening to the people talk about health
Right, so
Thank god for Adam. I'll be very honest, you know, um, I worked with dad for a long time
My Adam's always been you know, the kind of the teacher behind the scenes. He's the music guy. He does all the curriculum
Um, we would not be doing this right now if it wasn't for him
Um, because I was I was over it
You know, it did not bring my dad much joy in the end
You know, I had charges brought against me too and there was a lot of fear involved
So for me, it was like to hell with this crap, you know, I want to go fishing
All right
and and and luckily Adam followed dad around the camera for years before he passed
And Adam was really set up all this this university to help us teach
And honestly, it's helped me
It's helped me meet meet cool people like you steve. I've heard a lot about you, you know
I don't quite feel
I don't feel quite so isolated these days as far as talking about what we talk about that being said
I don't talk about this in my everyday life
Um, so it's been an interesting ride, you know, dad was one of our heroes
Um, a lot of the courses and Adam will talk about that. We're designed
We're designed they're designed to really make sure we keep the integrity of my father's legacy alive
But also the integrity of people before him too
You know, the Bayshams, Lamarcks, Rudolph Steiner's, Wilhelm Rex, all these people whose work has kind of been bastardized these days
We want to make sure people know who they were so they weren't forgotten because they're just their divine philosophies out there
And that's what we're doing our best to carry on
That yeah, it's funny. You mentioned them because a lot of people don't know
In in university the doctors have their own library
They don't have the same library as all the other students and funny enough guess whose books aren't in those doctor libraries
Baysham, you know, all all the all the guys who have done this forever and ever
Their work is not in there at all. Um, so it's I know what you're saying
It's it's it's not like really you can blame the doctors
They're just ignorant and they don't know
And you know, they they give you a blood test and then they the lab comes back and you know
I say I've got a red itchy skin
And then they tell you, you know, you've got whatever the latin word is for red itchy skin
You pay 500 bucks and get some cream
They don't like you say they don't tell you why you have red itchy skin, you know, they don't care
Why they don't even take time to ask?
Um, so that's what I like what you guys do you can talk about your approach you guys sit down really
And talk to people don't you and get their story and find out what it's it's not like
There's never a one fix all, you know, there's these symptoms could have
200 different causes and be different for every
200 different people
I also like to I want to talk a little bit later. Um
You guys have some ideas that are even against a lot of what we'll call the our alternative health friends
There's some ideas floating around there in the alternative
crowd
That you guys don't agree with either and I think that's always interesting to get into but uh, yeah adam
What do you want to add to that?
Uh, good question. Uh, nothing. It's nice to hear josh talk, you know
Um, no, it's been a journey and a half to say the least, you know
Josh growing up and working with dad was awesome. You know, I was I was the behind the scenes kind of guy
Um, I was living in lake tahoe and we had our last bunch of clinics
And I'm teaching music. Yeah, it's snowboarding and enjoying my life and
Josh and dad the clinic is about an hour away from me and they're just
The rats in the wheel, you know, working with people and working with people and working with people
Um, but it's nice, you know, josh really got experience
And it is funny steve because, you know, dad felt really alone. He had nobody to bounce things off of
You know people like dr. Emoto they got to be friends, which is really nice
And they shared some theories and things like that but even emoto was doing his thing and dad's doing his thing
So for josh and I now we're
We're doing our best to make friends, you know, we're not here to argue with people and fight with people
We're here to share the information because as far as I'm concerned, this wasn't my dad's work
It was work that was given to him to share with the world
You know, when you learn these things, it's very what we do is educate and empower people so they can take charge of their healthcare
But josh has been the guy, you know, I know a lot about the basics
But since josh was really working side by side with dad for so long
He really got an interesting education
And one of the things about josh being able to
Learn this was dad said josh didn't go to other schools where they had to unteach him things
You know, and it's funny because we said in the presentations when dad was around we would say this work is so easy
You know the theory and the philosophy behind it that even josh can do it
You know, and it's not that he's a stupid person
But he wasn't beaten into submission with the schooling experience, you know most doctors their education is so valuable to them
They paid so much for it. And like you said too, we don't blame them, you know, it's not their fault. They were trained wrong
Um, they went into the into the profession to help people and drive porches and golf on wednesdays
And there's nothing wrong with that
You know, but it's really so bass-accords at this point
You know, it's really and it's been frustrating, you know over the last four years. We've seen
That people are waking up as far as realizing they're not there's nothing more important than your health
You know, and it doesn't matter but your Ferrari isn't going to buy you health, you know things like this
So we need to understand how this works and take care of it
But so many people are looking for the quick fix, you know
This is western medicine is will give you something and you stop the symptom and you feel better
But you don't realize when you're looking at that home of toxicology chart
They're just pushing things deeper
And then they have created the chronic experience for you
It's their word that they came up with because they don't know how to fix you
All right, but yeah, I don't blame them, you know, the doctors are trying they were trained wrong
We learned about the system isn't broken. It works perfectly for those that created it
You know, but these days even even these days as people are coming over to this side of the fence
You got a lot of people in the alternative experience like you were kind of saying
That are looking for quick fixes
You know use this device and just going to fix everything. Yeah, right use this patch
And it's going to fix everything and we don't have to change our diets and change our attitude and change our lifestyle
You know lifestyle is the biggest is the biggest issue as far as
Causes of disease aside from doctors interventions, right?
Yeah
Yeah, iotrogenic death. I think it's I'd say it's probably number one. Don't you think they say it's the third leading cause but
I think the first two are like chemo. I'm not sure we can say this on youtube
But the thing for the c you know the the chemo treatment
I think the like the first two leading cause besides car accidents also are iotrogenic
Caused just on the back end or that, you know, they hide off the blame
The cool thing is like you guys get results
You actually heal people but so yeah, maybe just talk us through your methods
So let's say i'm because adam knows me. It's funny that I even sit and talk to doctors because
Adam knows if you see me. I have a cigarette hanging out of one mouth and a beer in the other hand
I'm a rock and roll star. So
The reason I even got into health way back in the day was because I lived the lifestyle
I did I thought shit, you know, if i'm going to make it to like 40
I got at least eat well and get into these cell salts and you know, like start learning what's going on
And I even I I did I do a fast and I want to talk to you guys about fasting because you guys are actually against that
Right or i'm not sure you're against it, but it's not something there's your there's just ways to do it
That aren't being taught correctly and most in most avenues. We're not we're not totally against it
They're just a time and place for and some of the extremes can be pretty hardcore
Yeah, I'd love to talk about that because for me and I don't want to talk about myself, but I did actually
I cured asthma and I cured I came back from traveling and had these brown
I don't know what you call them. They're like bumpy wart and mole kind of things on my lower abdomen
And I can't the top dermatologist and Copenhagen said he whatever it was called
And he said I can freeze, you know, I can dry freeze the big ones off and then you can take this medicine
But there's no known cure. So eventually it'll come back
And my first master cleanse, you know, the stanley burrows two weeks on lemon juice guy and pepper
They were gone and never came back. I'm like no known cure like lemon juice
So, uh, to me and my my allergies went away too as well. Now that also was from taking salt salts
So I I have experienced positive with two week fast, but you know, I know what you're saying
Like if you're very very sick or something, I know there are especially when you hit that eighth ninth day when
When the the trauma comes out, you know, you could really hurt yourself
Um, but yeah, but we could talk about that later. So yeah, like
Let's say I come in what's like an average thing someone comes into you guys for like
Yeah, pick something common and talk us through like what happens if I go to the big Olson Academy like
I'm sick with something. What what do you do?
Yeah, um, well, we've got an interesting we've got a very
Straightforward consultation process these days one it's for educational purposes only we do not treat or diagnose
You know, but basically
You know, the forms will come in
If we send out kids people take a drop of their own blood and send it through the mail to us
Um, there's a history form. They fill out and I'll I'll do the uh, you know, I'll do a report
Um, Fiona who works with us will then talk to the person about the report
And then Adam follows up to make sure people are doing their homework
But it's all very straightforward. There there's you know, there's only one reason people get sick and it's unique for everybody
So and that's what we have to figure out. So it's not this happened
And this and this and this that we have to track it back to one instance in life
I'm the most common one. Obviously we see his birth traumas
Right and although two thirds of the people write on their history form, you know, the birth was fine
You know, then we'll look down and we'll see that they have we have a very unique history form. First of all
Most history forms are a list of a thousand symptoms and check off this if you have these symptoms
Right, um, my dad put together this history form. That's very unique. It talks about dental work emotional traumas physical traumas birth traumas
Very specific conditions people have had too that people would think are inconsequential that are a very big deal to us
Like for instance, if we see bunions, they had a bunny neck to me
Right, that means their pelvis was out of alignment and bunions are actually developed to actually balance out your equilibrium
So right off the bat, we know that the body has been out of alignment for a long time
Now they've taken off their bunions. Now the body's really out of you know, out of alignment
Um, so little things like that mononucleosis is almost directly related to your birth
It's not a transmittable disease
Right, really because I was hospitalized for 10 days like near death. Uh, they said, oh, it's because anjuana kissed you
You like you got her. I was one of those babies who was taken out with a freaking force
You know, the I was a conehead baby where they were good. They grabbed me by that. Hey, I'm a salad. I'm a salad baby too
Tongs
Yeah
And I had mono also and that is why we had the mononucleosis. Wow, man. That's so great to hear
Thanks for saying that man. It's directly related to your belly button your umbilical ligament
All right, so and I'm sure you've probably heard adam talk
I'll make it really quick
But the belly button's the umbilical ligament goes up to the roof of your diaphragm and it goes down to your pubic
Synthesis, so when you're born for most of us, they pull out the umbilical cord. They cut it really close
But it actually pulls your diaphragm down onto your liver and it can actually tilt your pelvis up
So when do we get mono most of the time in our growing years in our teen years?
Sometimes we'll get it later on for different reasons
But generates when we're starting to get taller and taller and taller the diaphragm keeps pushing down the liver
Your liver backs up and that's what they call mononucleosis
So we'll see on the history form birth was no problem, but then they've had mono and it's like, okay
Most cases that's going to be the issue now. Sometimes there's injuries and surgeries that can happen before that
That affect the umbilical ligament, but you know, I would say the majority of the time we see mononucleosis
It means their birth was difficult. Um, so what we do is does that like adam says we just educate and empower people
Oh, I thought you're agreeing with me adam
Am I supposed to call on you? It's not
Uh, we interrupt each other the whole time. So I got it. That's your little code. Yeah, go on
I don't know. I don't even pay attention. Like we have a code where he he's supposed to pull his ear, but I don't pay attention
Oh my god, we're doing it in presentations. I'm pulling my ear and pulling my ear
Going and go adam go
So real quick. This is what happens when you ask josh questions. We let him out of this cage. He just goes
Um, but no awesome. I was just gonna say with the mono
It's funny. I just had a guy talk to you within the last couple weeks
It's just like clockwork steve, you know dad observed people over long periods of time
So the birth is one thing the belly button and then as we grow up
So josh, this is funny. The guy was born a year before me and his mono was exactly a year before mine
Right, it's like clockwork, you know, it's really interesting how these things work steve
Yeah, well, I think 10 or 11 it was a growth spur like 10 or 11. I was yeah, it was right then in the yeah
Yeah, that's crazy and it's that ligament, you know as you grow up. It's pulling down
This is one reason we lose our height as we get older
You know, if I tuck my shirt in too tight on the right side of my pants
I feel it here the united states lower back pains a chronic disease
So you got the belly button too tight. Now you feel it in your lower back
So lots of going on with just that little belly button experience man
He's like what are c-sections due to women whose c-section birth is that that most wow
What what happens from that right you reckon
Yeah, we talk we talk so much about scars for the mother. Yeah, there's repercussions because the scar tissue and adhesion
So you got to work on those scars
But for the for the baby it's the mother's contractions that pump the baby's diaphragm when it's coming out
You know correctly vaginally when it comes out through a c-section
It's almost like a lot of those babies tend to have breathing problems
Because they came out essentially not knowing how to breathe
So you have to actually bring them almost back through the birthing process correctly
We do that through body work and sometimes some out in the acupuncture and things like that
And you got to get them to breathe properly because they essentially came out of the womb
Not knowing how to breathe properly. So yeah, there's different repercussions as far as different procedures. That's for sure
Yeah, well and real quick josh too and this is fun as i'm thinking about
You know, it's funny steve people want things to cure their stuff, you know
So like you've got this the tesla device, which my buddy steve is living with us just built one
You know, the plans are out there for free and built them. It took him a couple hundred bucks two or three hundred dollars
But josh as josh says the birthing process osteopaths can help you complete this these things
We've seen things in the blood that go all the way back to birth
But depending on the practitioner things can be done about this
All right, and josh, I just had an idea for people that haven't completed the birthing process
I think we need to create this dark tube that they get to crawl through
I
Wasn't claustrophobic enough as it was
That's the new the new door to your clinic. They just crawl through a vagina
You're done. You're healed
All right, you can only get that through us. So there's that
But there are a few things, you know josh, uh, and steve's an original question. What's something
josh that you see that comes through our
Experience often enough that is that makes sense. Like if steve had this
You know, I mean we do see the birth experience and the belly buttons are things we see as causes for certain things
Uh belly button can be people with digestive issues potentially
Right josh. I mean if the things are tight then things are putting pressure on the system
So this is a good question though, steve as we have josh here. We'll both put him on the spot
So josh, yes, what what conditions if steve had come to you with x
What would be something that's common?
Uh that we see and what makes sense of it. What would we do with something like that?
Well, you know, it's it's one of those things different for everybody adam
You know the belly button is going to affect everybody differently. Um, but let's eat tonsils
All right, let's remove our tonsils because oh, we don't need those. It's your tonsils are inflamed
Of course, they're freaking inflamed. That's when your teeth are coming in
Right and what are tonsils do they help with drainage?
Right. So brilliant doctors that there are out there who are doing their best. Let's remove your drain
All right, and let's see if you start to have thyroid issues in the future
All right. Ah, there we go. So so people with thyroid issues
So steve may come to us with thyroid issues and we may see something related to tonsils
Certainly could be tonsils. It could be dental work. It could be a concussion. There's compression on thyroid
There's many different things, you know, you could have gotten kicked in the ass that affected your hormones down below
Now your thyroid's working too hard
But yes, we do see pretty pretty consistently tonsil issues
And then maybe some sort of thyroid issue from there or even teeth issues because your drain
They've removed part of your drain, you know
So now now your mouth is starting to not have the the drainage that it needs
You know the people talk about detox and you know adam and I have been trying to figure out a different word for because the word has been
So abused these days and it was bare land. Oh, you know, he thinks of it as drainage
Which is perfect, you know, so we want to open up our drainage pathways
We don't want to remove our drainage pathways, you know with cancer
Are they so it's metastasized it's in the lymph nodes. Well, I hope it's in the lymph nodes
That's how it's draining the poison out of your body, right? So let's let's remove those damn drains now. Now. Where's that stuff going to drain?
It's not it's going to back up. We're going to start to have more issues
So, yeah, simple ones. Yeah
Dental works a big one
But tonsils can cause some major issues not that there's something you can't be done
That you know, you can always do something about it. So for people by their tonsils out, there's things you can do
Um, but uh, it's a it's a consistent one. We see what thyroid issues. Yeah, I what about hernias?
Well, you got to look at the what the cause of the hernias in the first place. So yeah, yeah, because there's groin on there's the belly
I don't know the I don't know the medical name. Yeah, it's just you're you're straining something
So, you know, if we're too tight to begin with, you know, you look at a lot of, you know weight lifters and stuff
There's so much strain on the body that that extra pulled up there goes that
You know, so um, but in the end we always talk about the emotion which sets up the injury
All right, I mean we think the emotion a thousand percent sets up why you get sick in the first place
All right, that doesn't mean we just go work on the emotion now
All right, you can't just go pray your emotion away
You have to do physical things if you're if your emotion is not caused physical issues
You got to work on the physical part
And that'll help you release the emotional part and that was the brilliance of dad is, you know
There's diners four bodies and if one's out of alignment the other three are going to be out of alignment too
So I can't just work on the person's emotions. I can't just work on their physical
I can't just work on their energetics. All right, we've got to work on the body as a whole
So all those things can start to move properly
Yeah, that's more metaphysical the fourfold nature of man, you know
Not your dad sounds like he was getting into what they call
But uh, you know, yeah, you're not just the physical you have several other bodies attached to it of energies and other things
So that makes total sense. Where do you guys stand on german new medicine? Not not a big rant, but like
Yes, no, maybe so I and again like we're not out to
Just any of our fellow community, but I'm just curious where you guys are on that one
It's a good question. Steve. It's it's a piece of the puzzle
You know for us, uh, dad reached out to homer at one point on conflict shock is very real
You know the idea that something traumatic happens to to you and then
How do we interpret this?
You know, and how does it affect what we would used to say was
You know, homer was observing the ct scans, which there's controversy about replicating those
Anna scouts someone that has a friend that worked with homer
Just really interesting the way their camp has split and things are kind of interesting there
Piece of the puzzle, but however, we would always say
Homer observing these things and then his son is murdered
And then he contracts testicular cancer and he sees these images on the ct scan
So the reality is what we feel as though he was seeing
Was traumatic events emotionally traumatic events causing short circuit causing an effect in the brain
Which is precipitating people's health conditions
All right, so josh is there, you know, if we have an emotionally traumatic event. Do we see that related to the health?
Yeah, definitely
We see conflict shock in the blood all the time. What's very interesting about new german medicine is
It's not new
Is one thing right it's been around for a long time
Based on all eastern philosophy
And it's it's a piece of the puzzle effect on my body. Sorry. I'm going
It's a piece of the puzzle, you know, so that's where we stand
For us, there are so many pieces of the puzzle and like you said, there's so many different things going on at once
You know your liver issue can be a result of your physical body out of alignment putting pressure on the liver
Your liver issue can be tooth mercury, you know root canal on the meridian affecting energy to the organ
Your liver issue can be an anger issue
Your liver issue can be something out of alignment putting pressure
Now you have anger issues and now it's affecting the energy of the tooth
And now you have this catch 22 circle cycle thing going on where it really starts to affect things
So emotions big piece of the puzzle, you know, and it's an interesting one too. Let's check on this one josh
Steve, you know, I think I talked about this once before. Why is steve?
Why does he look the way he looks? Why is he as healthy as he can be?
You know, and it's funny because it's not that we need to look at your blood steve, you know
You enjoy your life
You know anyone that's ever met you like you can't you're this like force of nature
Your voice, you know, just that, you know, people go, oh my god, it's steve alkaner
You know, you're having a good time playing the music
You know, you're really enjoying what you're doing as far as intellectually learning things and connecting dots
You get to be creative, you know with the films and the things you do
So no one's perfect, you know, and what josh, I mean our grandfather died at the age of what 98 or 96
And if it wasn't because of the hip surgery, he would have kept going and what was his diet like josh
What was he doing with his life? He would eat that actually like imitation margarine
He had a whole fridge that was you know, just for junk food, you know wine in a box
You know and uh, yeah
I mean their their constitution back then was so much stronger than our constitution these days anyways, but uh
Yeah, he didn't care. He was enjoying his life, you know
So dad would say more important than what you put into your mouth is the attitude in which you put it to your mouth with
I I totally
Agree with that. Mike winter and I were talking about that his aunt died at like 104 or five
She was smoking two packs a day like she didn't give a shit
I saw one old lady, uh, she was drinking like three cans of dr. Pepper a day since it came out and what the 50s 60s
I don't know
And the song guy's like, you know, that's gonna kill you. She's like, that's what my doctor said, but he died 30 years ago
There you go
But see, you know what you guys are saying nobody's doctor would ever look at what you guys are saying like
They wouldn't even know anything about that your birth could cause some kind of disease later or scars or
Um, so you guys are obviously your what do you work with an osteopaths chiropractic?
You must be working with other people to
When when there's a realignment needed. What do you recommend and what don't you recommend for those kinds of people?
Yeah, that's the difficult part because yeah, we don't have clinics anymore and that's been very very good for my health
Um, so we educate people we empower people
We let them know where the issues most likely are and then we point them towards modalities that we think can help
Um, the top of our list is generally um traditional cranial osteopaths
Right and they're they're a lost art less than two percent of osteopaths the united states do body work now
Most of them are just traditional doctors
Um, so we want a mechanic working in the car
Right, it is not we love to do everything natural if we can but you know indigenous cultures won't get hit by cars
Indigenous cultures, you know didn't have amalgams in their mouth. They weren't getting their appendix removed, you know
They didn't have fluoride in their freaking water, you know things like that
You know, so we've had these force impact injuries and the car has gotten beat up
So we want somebody who's going to understand how to align the body and not force the body back into alignment
Very key. You don't want to force the body back into alignment, right? The body doesn't like to be forced
So you need like like hard at hardcore chiropractor and all that shit
You guys aren't really totally down with that then it's I don't like well one
You know dad would say he didn't care what somebody was doing as long as it worked
So in the end I don't really care what they're doing as long as it worked
But the general the body prefers encouragement to force
Right and that's what the classically trained osteopaths are now that being said
I've met some masseuses who do cranial sacral work were fantastic
You know, so you got to find the right body worker who understands that the whole body is connected
They're not your cervical specialist or you know, I'm a left pinky doctor, you know
I mean you need to be able to work on the whole entire body
Um, but then of course we love acupuncture too
Um, unfortunately osteopathy is kind of they're selling out these days
It's hard to find the good ones and now you've got acupuncture is doing parasite cleanses on people
Which goes against the very philosophy of eastern philosophy. That's a really good one. I actually uh have a friend
He he wants to get he's like I've got parasites. I can feel them in my butt
We're going around. I'm like, well, you don't want to remove them then because that let's talk about parasites
That's another one like uh, just like ivermectin like that's there's people in the alternative
Push an ivermectin to shut off your like you say to shut off your
Uh cleansing or your what do you call drainage? You know, you yeah, you can
I always tell people like yeah
If you have to take a dump you squeeze your butt and hold it in for three weeks and then see what happens to you
You're gonna help us
That's ivermectin in a nutshell but yeah
So the parasites is another one people are like no, no, no, they're making you crazy and they're the cause of disease and
So what we're we're what's your experience on parasites?
Oh, yeah, yeah, um, we don't have to go major. I know I might if you need to cut me off
No, this is something that's kind of near and dear to my heart. Um, because
Have you ever met a farmer who's disappointed when they see a worm in their garden?
Ever
Yeah, right. We've become so disconnected from nature as human beings that we think we are separate than nature
The same way that microbiology works the soil is the same way it works in our body
Right if people are out there killing parasites, they're not working with the train. They're working against the terrain
All right, what are parasites doing? They're cleaning the soil. They're cleaning our tissue
They're very necessary for our mucous membranes. We don't want too many. We want a nice happy balance
But they're in there. They're cleaning our mucous membranes
If the bacteria are backed up and over proliferating they'll process the bacteria so we can get the nutrients that the bacteria provide for us
All right for people who don't know the the bacteria is waste product has nutrients for the soil
It's nutrients for our body the parasites are helping in that actual process
They're also creating nice pathways for the microbiology to move through
Right and it's so frustrating because you know in the alternative world everything is heavy metal toxicity, right?
Okay, so you got heavy metal toxicity. So let's do you a candida purge, right and a parasite cleanse
And what do you think parasites and candida candida do for your body? They eat the damn heavy metals. Yeah
They eat all that shit
Holy let's get let's get rid of what's helping clean out your heavy metals
And then let's do something stupid for your heavy metals over here in the corner
Right, so it's gotten so basquered that the very treatments are working against what they're actually trying to do
So the philosophy of it
I find offensive
quite honestly
Right parasites are there to assist the body and help you if you're gonna get rid of your bacteria
It's no different than people trying to get rid of your bacteria
Right, you know all these things are designed to do a very specific job when they're all there to assist in the process
So it's been very frustrating to see where it's kind of going but that being said people like to live in fear
Well, totally, but there's also I've seen a lot of these alternative
They're not really alternative ones. They're like the alternative alternative
You know like the diet diet woke doctors
But uh, some of them say no these parasites are causing c a n c e r
I don't want to say I don't know we can say that on youtube
I wish I've ever done my shit. I've ever heard dumb as shit. Right. Yeah
You you might have c a n c e r
Which is why you have parasites because you're already a toxic shit bag walking around
Totally got it. You're gonna want those parasites there to clean up the toxic shit bag
Yeah, yeah, they're not
That's more germ theory. Isn't it's the firemen cause fires because they're at the scene
It's the same with the bacteria. I would like to say it's green allopathy
But the the drug the drugs they use and they're not even natural. They're pharmaceuticals
Right. Yeah, and it's definitely it's even this is uh
People are detoxing and they're seeing all the parasites coming out
Those aren't usually parasites. Typically they're mucous membranes
99 of the time they're passing irritated mucosal tissue
That looked very similar to a roundworm. They just think they're dead worms. You mean it's not even
Totally totally and if you are passing worms if you're if your environment is so toxic
That you're forcing the worms to leave your body
Then you're going to be in a lot of trouble down the line
No, no, maybe my symptoms go away
But as we know from homeotoxicology, it's going to a deeper valence and something
Some issue is going to pop up later on in life
That's more serious than what you were you were chasing those parasites away for
Yeah, that's that's really crazy. Yeah, do you guys get a lot of shit then from people for saying this like uh for saying
That the you know the that parasites are good
We don't so much which is nice because the people when they're ready to hear what we have to say is usually when they find us
You know as much as you know people like you steve and our circle of you know people that are sharing information
Know who we are not as many people know who we are as you would expect
You know, it's you got to dig hard, you know, and I've said this before
You know David Parker and Don Lester did the book what makes you ill they researched for 10 years and they didn't come across us
You know and nothing against them. I mentioned that Dom was like, oh
It's like no has nothing to do with them and has to do with the fact that what we've done has been kind of buried
You know, and I really believe that people find us when the timing is right for them
And when we say these things they're ready to hear what they need to hear
You know it's definitely
You know, we don't get them on we don't get a lot of I think it's okay that way
You know as adam said we're not looking to be on opera, you know
We're looking to to educate a specific group of people who's open to it
You know the courses we do people are always happy. We get uh, you want an open-minded skeptic. You don't want a jerk
Right, so people want to yell and scream, you know
We're not the place for you and luckily we don't get a lot of that
You know vitriol, which is nice because a lot of people don't know about us
but you know, so I used to feel bad for a lot of the
A lot of the clients who are going down this path, you know going to their fear brass
Fear-based practitioner, but then I realized that's that's where the client was at their point in life
Right, you know, they were in such fear that they weren't quite ready to get better
So they wanted somebody to help feed into the fear. I've been there, you know, we a lot of us have been there
You know, so if people are in that space, you know, it's it's okay for now
You don't have to come over and see what we're doing until you until you're ready
You know, I mean it's it's one of those things
We're not looking to push it on people if you think parasites are causing your issues
But by all means go down that rude road and see what happens not only that see what happens a couple years from now
Okay, inherently the body knows what it needs and we're just here to support the body
That's all we're trying to do
You know, so we want to help people who want to be helped and really the greatest thing about our courses
And what we teach is it helps people accountable and we have a total lack of accountability these days
People don't want to be held accountable. Doctors don't want to be held accountable
You know, so when we educate you on how things work, then now you're accountable for your own health and it's so empowering for people
You know, if you're going to a practitioner now, you can hold them accountable
You know, how come you're doing this? It's this is what my body needs. So
Yeah, what we teach is really common sense in a lot of ways that hasn't been taught
But literally people leave the courses. They don't need consultations from us after the course
Because they know what's caused their illness and they know what to do about it
But you guys do consult later, right? Like if they sign up to your courses, you're there for them
Afterward always like you get a life a lifeline phone a friend
For people to sign up for us. We're very very accessible
Yeah, yeah, we want we want to be there for people. That's why we do the courses, you know
We can't do we can't be on the phone with everybody all day
But we can do this and then people are learning from each other
You know, they're learning they're not alone and it is interesting, steve
You know a lot of times when we say these things, especially with the parasites
Typically the reaction is people have been everywhere else and you know, they're blaming all these things for what's going on
And we say something like parasites and the response is usually oh
Shit
That makes sense
You know, and now we're working with nature
So it's really it's a great question. The parasite thing is a funny one, you know
The ivermectin is a parasite killer, right?
So if you're full of crap and then this is what happens your full of crap
You got the parasites so then you kill a bunch of parasites. Do you feel different?
Potentially is it helping? Not really
You know and even yeah, even with the sorry and even dad would say um that some people heal in spite of the treatment they receive
That's that's the amazing part of the human body
If you're if you're kind of off-center and fairly healthy to begin with you do one of these weird cleanses
It's going to do a little bit of irritation probably but it might not affect you as much as the person is really toxic
And needed those parasites a lot more
So your body could recover much quicker
I'm really big into like placebo and nocebo
You know, I don't want to you. I'm not naming names. Alex. Zach had a guest on a really great guy
They were discussing uh urine therapy fasting like this kind of thing. This person uh said I already said guys
This guy said
You don't want me interviewing that blower. I see his name in the chat right now
Right, yeah
So this person said
This person calls food drugs or poison like he says
Occasionally I partake in the poison, you know, and I'm with my friends
He means eating or or drugs and I'm like the last thing I would be doing
Is calling food drugs or poison because when you do go eat it
You've just programmed your body to think you're eating poison, which is I I can't see the logic in that at all
You know, right. Yeah. Yep. That's important. That's an important one and josh even talks about
You know, you've got alternative practitioners giving you antifungals
Antibacterials, you know, and if it's a plant-based thing if it's natural
Are we weakening the you know the power of what we're using because the words are power?
You know, yeah, put the poison in your mouth food is nourishment, you know, and it's fine
I mean, I know breath arians that don't eat very boring as far as I'm concerned
I love food. It's part of my joy. Damn it, you know
They're cheap nades though. What are you eating?
Nothing I go on have some dessert
Nice, but it's it's we're easy with these things, you know, but words are very important
So yeah, if you're calling, you know, the food that you're eating drugs
Well, okay, that's the dad would always say what's more important with them
What you use the attitude with what you eat it. I think josh just said that
So if you eat that piece of cake and you think it's going right to my butt
Don't eat with guilt. It's going right to your butt. You've written a piece of cake
You deserve a piece of cake, right? We we did that remember that
Last time our our clinic got raided and I curled up on the fetal ball and sat in my hole for two years, you know
And uh, we finally got out and we went up to the Portland area, which is food truck heaven
Right and for two weeks. We had every food truck there was I love donuts
I ate them like once twice a year, you know
But for two weeks, we ate all this awesome crap
All right, who knows what they were cooking it in and who knows even what it was half the freaking time
Adam was worried about getting fat
I was having fun, right and after two weeks of eating crap adam gained seven pounds. I gained one pound
All right. Yeah, I ate with joy the same things we ate the same things every day for two
Holy so yes eat with joy. You got to know the source of your food
You can't eat McDonald's every day and hope to be healthy
Right, you know, but if I want to eat I haven't eaten there in 30 years
But if I want to eat some crap every once in a while, I'm going to enjoy it
I'm going to eat it with a freaking smile on my face, you know, and if it's poison bring it on
I'm not going to call it poison, you know, but
Most things yeah, words are power. I mean that's been scientifically proven. So and plant medicine
Is is pro it's not anti nothing in nature is antagonistic
We as Lamarck said we evolved through symbiosis
Right that plant can't possibly anti-parasitic. It's pro-parasitic
It's going to help your terrain. So take some of the load off the parasites. It's pro-bacteria
Right. So even people who are doing well, I felt better after a parasite cleanse where some people are doing natural
Natural remedies for it. It's not killing the parasites. A lot of what it's doing is helping clean your terrains
So the parasites don't need to be there
It's not about killing them. It's about helping the terrain. So yeah, plant medicine
But if they're calling it
anti-bacterial
Then it's weakening the energy of that plant before it even puts it into your body
Yeah, and biotic means life. So anti biotics
Anti-inflammatory means anti healing, you know, I mean, it's ridiculous
We heard one person talk about he loves using mushrooms in his business because it's got many anti-fungal properties
Yeah, mushrooms for anti-fungal. It's a fungal. It is a fungal. What are you talking about?
Autoimmune, but I'm allergic to myself
Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah, exactly
That's, well, that's a common one for us, Steve
This is something Steve would come to us for. Steve comes and says, I have autoimmune disease, right?
What do we do, Josh? We look at the blood. We see blocks. Autoimmune is a funny one
Dad would say it's a BS diagnosis a doctor gives you when he doesn't know what's wrong with you
Right and the reality is with like Lyme disease is over 300 symptoms
So everyone listening can be diagnosed with Lyme disease at any point in time, right? It's a catch-all is what dad would say
Um, but the idea of this is you come to us 10 different people come to us with Lyme disease
They've got 10 different things going on
You know, and what we've seen with the autoimmune experience. So let's say you had come to us, Steve
We see some physical alignment. The system's not efficient if things are physically out of alignment
You're putting pressure on your system. So how is the digestive system going to be efficient?
All right, how are you going to pull the nutrients out of the things that you need?
All right, then at the same time you're not getting that full breath. So we're not getting all the oxygen we need oxygen
Breatharians that we've been on oxygen. We can't live without that one, right?
So you're compromised. You got the belly button that was tied off too tight. You don't get a full breath
You got some scars now. You've got strain patterns things are pulling there's more pressure on the liver
So now you're not draining, you know, it's not filtering efficiently and then you get bit by a tick
Oh, no, right?
Well, let's let's also incorporate your divorce and you know, these kinds of things right your your emotional frustrations in life
That's your autoimmune experience a little bit of this some of that some of the other
The body's trying to deal with this and that and the other
And then you know, you get bit by a tick, which is not a good thing to get bit by
We know coke's postulates. It's not contagious and all that kind of stuff
But it can be this draw that breaks the camel's back
So we did for a long time we worked with
We work with autoimmune diseases and it's nice when people realize
Oh, it's not that I have this thing that's just killing me. My body is not attacking itself
This is nature and I did a little cartoon meme recently
I haven't shared yet, but it's you know, the doctor looking at the tree and saying, well, it's bark is attacking its roots
You know, like nature is not doing it. Your body's your body wants you to survive. It's not attacking itself
You know, even with that seaward experience, that's an end stage thing
But it's a very natural process that should happen when you're in the ground
You know, it's happening while you're alive. So there's this do you guys ever see shit like a
Kids who get bit by a dog when you're younger, you know, like an animal bite like especially a bad one is
Does that have later effects? Like let's say we're attacked by a dog like a real bad, you know
It depends on how much of an emotional trauma it was for for the kid
So, you know, we've seen
The injury actually holds in the emotional trauma
So as we treat the injury it releases the emotional trauma
This is where we differ a little bit from the new new germ of medicine is we want to get our hands physically on the person
Okay, there's been an emotional trauma. There's a physical injury. We got to work on the physical injuries
So for instance, the scar will hold in the trauma the emotional trauma
So you might have a massive scar with a bit of an emotional component to it
Or you might have a tiny scar with a massive emotional component to it
We had one person who you know, I'd seen dad was about 80 percent better
Was thrilled and dad was a perfectionist knew he was missing something
Turned out when he was seven or eight years old
He she had she had stepped on a rusty nail it got infected
They did a tetanus a tetanus shot, of course
And the doctors held her their parents held her down on the table while the doctor gave him the shot
So she felt like the doctors were attacking her and her parents were not there to protect her
And all of that emotion was trapped in the tiniest little scar that you'd ever see
And as dad treated that scar everything opened up for
So the emotion behind the injury or the trauma is going to dictate how big of an issue it is for you
That's crazy. Have you ever seen like a dog jaw in the blood?
You were bit by a dog
Yeah, we saw a dog by a dog bite once I remember someone got bit
I was actually with Eileen McCusick doing a training with her like nine years ago or something
And someone there had got bit on the hand and I looked at the blood because I bought the microscope
And there was punctures on the hand and we saw something in the blood that looked almost like that bite
Yeah, it was a little traumatic for her, you know attacked by a dog
But that's that's are you working with Eileen?
Have you tried taking blood and then hitting a tuning fork one of her forks and then recheck the blood like have you tried any of that?
We haven't done we've done
Uh, we've definitely done blood before and after treatments. I did I took her course way back
You know, I was her guitar teacher a long time ago, which was awesome
But we've definitely looked at blood before and after some of her treatments
And there's something that goes on without question
There is something we'd like to do, you know when we had the clinics
We were just the rat and the wheel people are coming in and coming in
So at this point and I even talked about it recently
With Anna, you know to put the drop of blood on the slide and yeah, put the tuning fork next to the drop and just see what happens
Uh, and this is funny though, Steve because we did this with magnets
All right during the last four years, you know
And there were these toxic substances that Anna and I got to observe and I don't know if you've heard this story
This is hilarious. So we put this substance on the slide and someone says put a magnet
So I go put a magnet and everything moves
Everything moved. I was like, oh my god
Like are we doing videos of this? All right
Everything moved I did multiple videos and then at one point, uh, I forgot who said it someone said
Isn't the stage of the microscope metal
Yeah
Uh, there's a little there's a little arm that holds this holds the slide in place
So I realized the the magnet was moving the arm
So it was moving the whole slide and this is funny guys. This is what I appreciate about uh, Anna and Maria oliva, right?
And having her on the team understanding how real science works
Steve if I had shared those first couple videos people would be freaking their pants off
I probably would have gone viral. Yay. We'd make money and people had come to us
But we waited and then realized oh
That was wrong
And it was funny, you know, we have to do things over and over repeat things
What's nice about what dad did
Is he did this for decades
You know, we saw patterns over and over and that whole belly button, you know being tied tight with the mononucleosis
You've got to observe someone for a long period of time when you start to catch these things
So dad really observed patterns, you know and for us that's
Good science is when we can repeat things replicable if I had shared the first video of the whole everything moving
Oh my god, even I think even if I had showed those videos and then said
Well, look it was the magnet moving the stage
You know, we had somewhat we have had two people I think at different times take our videos
And cut our name out of it like cut the first part and the last part and claim it was theirs
All right, so would somebody potentially cut off the end of this video and say oh my god the biggleson's look
Magnet is moving everything. Yeah, I'm sure without question
Yeah, totally. I mean, you know, that's what's cool, too
Is you guys are starting to meet people like vita austin. There's all the jerald pollock. There's these different disciplines. I leave him accusing
We're in a very interesting time with the internet and these conferences and things where these kind of people would have never met
200 years ago imagine if they did, you know, like
So it's getting really exciting where you guys are thinking about stuff like this like oh, what
What does that do or how you know, what about the vita austin's work like?
But what I do like you it's important what you said about the science adam because
Bloodwork right you and I were at a conference
I'm not going to say what but people probably know and they were taking they were doing
There was a table doing live
Yeah, live blood analysis for right. And how will we do? Yes, go ahead. Yeah, but like what yeah, you threw a conniption
I did in your nice way, but what's the problem what they're sometimes they're ruining right like your doctor sends off to the lab
That's even out of your doctor's hands. They have no idea how competent the the lab person is, you know, doing any of the work
So now you've got another layer
Hello, darling
Welcome welcome. Are you are you listening or watching?
No, I just finished a meeting and I just jumped
Oh, all right, excellent. Yeah, we we're all over the place. We're just kind of we're kind of winging it and stuff right now
but
But we were just talking about you
How it's important that you still have to really have some science when you're doing things, you know
Like like adam was talking about the magnet on the the slide and it was the arm moving
Or like blood, you know during the stew peters during during the convid thing
There were salt crystals and there's nano robots in the blood. I fell for it too. I made some movies like I fell for that shit from
Well, la quinta columna and all that crap because I didn't know I'm just some douchebag. So what do I know?
There wasn't
It wasn't till I saw you guys
And you're you're like now we've been seeing this
You guys have been seeing it in the blood
Let's we've talked about it before but let's real quick talk about that again
Like because a lot of people are so worried that they had robots injected into them over the last three years and they're gonna turn into
You know, well, and this is perfect steve with what you were just talking about. So ana steve was just mentioning and josh
Um, sorry if I forgot to mention steve invited ana
She's here to she's here to make fun of josh. I'm out of here
I'm just gonna have the screen slide you off to the side josh was
I love no, I invited ana
Steve was just talking about ana, you know, we go to confluence, you know
During what's gone on over the last four years. We're meeting people. We're starting to connect
You know the veda austin's the gerald pox things like this
All right
And I had mentioned to steve that as we were observing toxic substance and we put the magnet saw everything move
You know, and we saw it move
But then if we shared the video before we realized the magnet was affecting the metal piece on the microscope
That people would have just run with that ridiculousness
You know and to let people know real quick as far as having ana on our team now is awesome because she's a research scientist
You know, she worked in laboratories nanobiotechnology laboratory
So this is what we talked about the ridiculousness of microscopy over the last four years
It's not good science. You know people are seeing
Nanobots and pepsi and going oh my god, we've got quantum dots, you know, it's like you don't know what you're talking about
Why don't you shut up?
You know for us this has been really nice though steve
Being able to go to confluence, you know, ana had met gerald pollock previously
Josh and I looked at his blood. We met him in seattle, you know
But you've got him there and ana they can have conversations discussions
You know, he asked ana a question about was it why birds fly and she went
All this science and he was like, I'm just so happy to have this conversation with you
You know, and this I think is what's great about you steve is you're not a stupid guy
You know, you're really intelligent and you're looking great
There are we get interviewed by stupid people sometimes
But you're looking at things, you know objectively you're listening to different people and you're helping you're making sense of what's going on
You're coming to, you know, nice interesting conclusions. You'll understand these things
When ana and I went to confluence was awesome
Uh, we get to meet steve young
Awesome guy, right? Not a stupid guy. Wow. I get intimidated by some of these people very intellectual intelligent
You know, and it was fun because he we met mark gober very intelligent guy, you know
And now I was I was whining about it during my presentation. Now. I got to read these people's books. Damn it
How am I gonna understand it?
But then I wrote my book
Which is similar to books that you've got steve. I still have the goons laser balloons on my desktop here
I wrote the kids book version
You know, but what we want to do now is this we talk to these guys and we said we want to do podcasts and webinars just to have discussions
Let's throw something on the table that people have been talking about
You know, what does steve young think about what we're doing? Josh and I, you know
When we met ana it was awesome because she's been in the trenches like dad was she's been working with people
All right
So for us having these discussions bringing people like ana in you someone like you asking the questions
The perspective of someone like steve young with the you know, the place that he's coming from and the joe pox of the world
We're coming to some interesting conclusions. You know, there's a lot of reinforcement going on. Yeah, and it's and I appreciate you
Doing these things when you have people like us. Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. Yeah
It's even also like, you know, they were say remember back now. There's hydro vulgaris. They said they said there was like
Hydro vulgaris and the shots in the blood
But I think uh, you guys have slides of it
I can put these all over dub these later like you've been seeing that same thing in blood forever and ever and ever, right?
What is it?
People have lost their powers of observation
All right, we work a lot with the regentia farmers and they say you get your piece of land
Don't touch it for a year. Watch it. Observe it
All right, my dad was behind a microscope for about 30 years
I've been behind a microscope for almost 25 years now you observe patterns
And people are coming up with conclusions based on their own narrative these days with little to no training
Right, so it's been very very difficult
Then I'm going to let probably add an atom takeover on this one because I get a little too flustered about it
But they're claiming they can see nanoparticles with a microscope
And it was my belief in teaching that those are forms of measurement nano and micro
And I wasn't sure that you could see nano with micro isn't nano a lot smaller than micro
Um, so a lot of what they're claiming is just not physically possible
The other part of that is they don't understand the very basis of science of capillary blood
All right, you're taking the people doing live cell analysis with a dark field microscope are taking a drop of blood from your finger
That's a capillary only one cell can move through there at a time
The structures are showing 100 times as big that cannot physically be in your capillary
All right, it's physically impossible
All right, so we've seen those as holograms that correlate to things in your body and sometimes there's dirt on the slide
Now whether you believe in our interpretation or not, it doesn't make a difference
These things have been seen since the dawn of time when somebody actually looked at a dark field microscope
These are not new images people are seeing
But they're making up shit because it fits into their narrative
And honestly, it's been a very frustrating road for us because people say oh, you guys do live blood analysis
That is not what we do
We do traditional french german dark field microscopy
And as adam would say live blood analysis is a brand and that's what it is and and i'm sorry if there's people out
With microscopes a lot of you have been taught wrong. Just go out and read bechamp. Okay read underline
Get the very basis of where this work came from before you go start making claims about nanobots. These are not nanobots
Or go to the course that they are doing
Out of course that's going to give you a totally different information. So as you can understand what you are saying
I promise we're getting to that eventually
We're
You should just host the show from now on. I think you should just take us all home
Well, this is
This is cool though
You know, I was going to say that with this with anna and saying that you know
What's if if these people had had discussions about what they were seeing first before sharing
Right and anna and same idea which is part of what's great about our course
What's great about this, you know the fact that you can have josh and ian and anna on right now
We can have a discussion about this
You know, and if those people with microscopes had had discussions, they wouldn't have shared the stupidity
You know, I tried to we have friends you have friends that I tried to prevent from sharing the stuff and they didn't listen
And you know, they changed their tune. They might have looked like they had egg on their face for a moment or two
And I don't want people on our side have an egg on their face
So if you've got theories and thoughts, there are some well known people on the train movement that I don't add
I'm an apology. That's for sure. Yeah
As he reached out very nicely and said no what you're showing is actually assault crystals
That's not nano circuitry and their reply was not very nice. So
There are people who owe adam an apology. Um, but sorry
There's a well, I mean anna caught a lot of shit too because
You know, I
Because we all know there's a there's conspiracies going on. There are people out to get us
That's I mean, you're stupid if you don't see that
The problem is you can get so frickin paranoid like you're saying actually josh
You you'll just you just assume the worst. You're like, of course there's robots in there
Why wouldn't they those evil bastards on hydro vulgarity, you know
And then when anna comes along and just says hey, dude, there's graphene oxide and makeup
But like it's in everything like whatever, you know, it's it's not in your blood like fuck off
And then everyone gets mad at her they shoot the messenger, you know, because you've like
You've ruined their fantasy about the evil doers, you know
Oh, yeah, this is this is like a fallacy, you know, we're saying the same that josh is saying but with different words
It's like, you know that there is a plan. Let's say we know that about the transhumanism. That's a reality
This is not just a psalm. This is something that is planned
And then we know that we see certain things
But not because this is true means that there is a connection with what you are seeing
And this is the lack of knowledge and that's why I love science because it allows me to see where is the truth a little bit better
So if I started recording some things I have to record them in english because it's the basics of the nano medicine the basics
Of why the graphene oxide can never be used
for that
You cannot do a brain computer interface with graphene oxide. So from that beginning it's like stop that
Stop telling that we are being hybridized when you have no idea what is the nano medicine
You don't know what is a nano mechanism
You don't know you have never seen that and you are assuming that what you are seeing as josh says because it fits your narrative
There is a connection. So i'm sorry, but that's a fallacy
It doesn't work that way
Transhumanism is real and is one thing what you're observing in the blood is real
But it's a different thing don't create this bridge because there is no way to connect that unless
You just invent the things but the experience and the observations if people were able to observe and to
just
make hypotheses and try to
Confirm those hypotheses that is what science does. I remember when adam and i were
Looking at that poison and we were working with someone at the other side of the world that supposedly was a sciences
And let's see what we are seeing. This is the hypothesis. No, no the truth is this one
No, this is not truth. I mean science doesn't talk about truth
It's like is there is a hypothesis it can work. It doesn't but this is what people don't want
People don't want the truth. They just want what matches with what they believe
And especially if it's a scary even better
I was just gonna say we all love horror movies. We go we pay money to scare the shit out of ourselves
So it's like we're like non realistic horror movies, you know
But you know, I put behind a microscope for a huge portion of my life
It doesn't do mineral analysis. It doesn't do chemical analysis. These are just guesses, right and a hypothesis is an educated guess
Right not a guess
So yeah, it's a lot of it isn't is embarrassing but for people out there want you to get into
Microscopy, you know dark field microscopy read up about base shop on enderline, you know understand the terrain before you actually get behind
The big insane scores
We're gonna get to those two. Oh, you have a course on there too. We'll plug if it's still going
Also, uh, what do what do you think a guest on nasons? He had that crazy ass microscope?
Yeah, what do you think about him?
Dad visited him. That was one of the things he knew dad's life
Yeah, dad got to visit nasons and when dad looked in that microscope and saw things moving
He said he got chills. He had never studied that before
You know gassed on these songs did something awesome gassed on these songs was still a germ theorist
So, you know at some point to be interesting to have a timeline what he saw was was wild
Then dad went and he saw that and he started doing things and observing how these things react
So nasons something thank god for nasons doing what he did
You know even underline was more of a germ theory guy, you know, but they they've created a foundation for us
And what I've loved what I loved about dad
Is he said 80% of what he says is always going to be true and 20% we can we can have a discussion about it
All right, no nobody's ever right 100 of the time and if they are they're probably not very pleasant to be around
Right, you know
So you can have a discussion about underline and was one of our heroes
But he was still a germ theory guy nasons really did a lot of brilliant stuff
Was still a germ theory guys
So what we're going to we're trying to do is we got to take the basis of their brilliance
And then take it to the next level and that's what my father did
This is what we're trying to do and then there's going to be people of our students
We're going to take it to way beyond what we're doing right now
So but you got to be open to that discussion
There's always that filter of the time too, you know, you say well, that was the trick
I was just going to say like about Anna like she's a real scientist
But these days everyone hates scientists and they're like scientist is all
Bullshit, it's the it's the high black priests of the magic Saturn cube, you know, you're like not all of it
Like, you know, so like all of a sudden they don't like you because you're actually really a scientist
They're like that's bullshit. There's no real science. You're like there is
But you know, student science is a method
It's just a way of observing reality. It's just a way of getting knowledge
So you can yes, you can say that many scientists are based on an observation that
Is made
You know, and they're making conclusions that are not real, but science is just a method
You cannot say that all science is bullshit
Because it's a way of of getting knowledge. It's just a method. It's a how it's not a what
So it's a process and it's really Anna, you know, it's the discussion is the part of it
You have a theory you have your hypothesis then you send it past people and we have the discussion about it
And it's interesting Steve because you know as many people as we have met
That we know
All of us know the same people more or less, but some of them aren't interested in having the discussions
You know, they've got their thing and they're running with it
Some people some of these people have done awesome things. What they're doing is doing something
But then they're using terminology that doesn't really connect and make sense
You know because they don't really understand the science behind it, but it's kind of like
There are certain words, you know plasma and ether, you know on these things these days
What's what what's scalar? What's electro magnetic and what's really necessary?
You know the quantum experience for us when we hear anything as quantum. That's usually a marketing strategy
You know, what is quantum and look at Anna's face right there?
So if the discussions are had though, and this is what we really are excited about as time moves on
This is why we really love the courses the people that come to our courses are awesome. They're very
knowledgeable
They're educated. They've had experience and they're around the world these people
You know barolando comes and hangs out with our course sometimes because
Well, he's got the knowledge and he wants to be a part of discussions
You know, we're not here to just talk at people when we do these courses, you know with Anna
We ask questions. She's got thoughts. Josh has thoughts. I have thoughts
We can whittle away some inconsistencies
Let's start to see some truths
You know Anna for you as a scientist
How many people have you met that are open to the discussions?
Not so many
Not so many and and this is it's it's pretty sad because
You know when you are doing research the first thing you do is that you've changed the result and you discuss that
You say hey
So now it's like the bank me, please the bank me tell me tell me what i'm doing that is not wrong
That is not right. So it's like there is a challenge there too, you know
And let's test this and and have this hypothesis now try to demand me because this is how i'm going to see where are my inconsistencies
But nobody wants to do that
Man you make science sound sexy and fun
The problem is not science. The problem is the scientist
Right, science shouldn't be a bad word. It's all about the scientist who's doing their their studies, you know
But yeah, that is the great thing about we've got a few courses. This one's the hidden side of health care
Yeah, let's talk about the hidden side of health care because that's the one coming up first of all
When is it before we say what it is?
They can i'll i'll send links to the website where to sign up
But when is it and then tell us what starts on june that one starts on june 5th june 5th, okay?
It's a 13 week course
It's based on my father our father's book doctors are more harmful than germs
Which didn't make him a whole lot of friends in the medical world
But you know the the addendum to that is it's uh how surgery can be hazardous here
Had hazardous to your health and what to do about it
So we'll talk about the system and things like that
But the goal of this course is to give you solutions not tell you what the problem is
All right. Well, we do talk about you know what surgeries can do our dad was a trained surgeon
Right, you know and realized what was going on. So, you know some of the the course we talk about
What's kind of with different modalities and things like that and how they're causing more harm than good
But really the power of this course is all about solutions. Um, it's really interactive
You've got a lot of information each week to go over. We've got the one live webinar each week that's totally interactive
It's not just adam and i talking
It's supposed to be an hour
It'll go as much longer than that most of the time and things are happening
For the first time I feel like I'm learning again
Right, you know, because we've got a lot of people come. We've got a great aussie contingent
They are the aussies come in, you know, and there are different terrain
Right, and we're all about the terrain and we have a lot of people in the terrain movement these days
You don't really understand the terrain
They're just rejecting the germ theory and god bless them. They're they're tipping their toes into it
Right, you know, but we we like to speak from a lot of experience that we've had which is why we get along with the farmers
But very interactive a lot of conversations are going on there
Um, we like to keep the groups smaller. We don't want, you know, thousands or hundreds of people in the course
Um, we want a fair amount of people in there, but it's really cool because we get to see people from different terrains
So even like you talked about the science that our work is based on even
Bechamp, Lamarck, Vincent, they were doing studies a long time ago
You know the terrain actually back then was much more acidic and your diseases were much more acidic
Whereas now the more alkaline and the diseases are more alkaline
Right, so the terrain the studies they were doing were based on a different terrain
Everybody's terrain is unique and that's one of the awesome things about the course is we've got people from all over the world
You know, I it would be nice if I could talk to people in my everyday life about this
But you know for those of of you who feel like you're aliens. That's what this course is great about
I hate the word safe space, but we get these conversations going and it's like-minded people
We don't get attitudes and egos
You know, there's there's never arguments. It's always a discussion as adam always says that we don't have all the answers
Right and dad was very
Deligy with me. You have to be honest about what you know and honest about what you don't know
I don't mind saying I don't know, you know, but adam says between all of us we can come up with the answers
And that's what the brilliance of our courses are when we have the discussion
Not one person knows everything but when we start to have the discussions
We can I think we have the answers within us
We can start to really come together and figure those things and who would who would like to hit inside of health care
Is this for anybody or you're looking for more health care practitioners or just mom average joe off the street to doctor
Anybody everybody everybody and anybody it's really it's for the mom who wants to learn to take care of the children
It's for the individual that's had something going on that they're trying to figure out
You know, what's more important than the images we show is the theory and philosophy behind this work
So this is this, you know
In this course you get to talk about your issues if you feel confident about it
We had jenny from australia had her goats going through something and it was a discussion of the course
There's goats terrain, you know, let's see what we can come together and figure out
We had the whole class and on it, you know, we we brought in farmers and things like that to talk about it
You know, so it was just really it's a happening. So it's like a hands-on interactive med school kind of or something like that pretty much
Yeah, that that's really cool. That's how it should be instead of just sit and listen into the professor
Very interactive very interactive
That's a pretty legal sense classes at a party always
But I want to say something is that when I when I met them for first time
It was a whole revolution because I thought I knew
You know, I was working in a very famous clinic and I was a little bit like the superstar of the clinic and and I thought I knew
And suddenly these guys come and put my whole world upside down
And it was like, oh shit. So now I need to relearn everything
But the good thing was that it was a shock. It was like, how could they do this? How could they get to this
explanation but after learning with them is like, oh, it was so easy
That how could it be that I couldn't do that before?
You know, it was like it was so easy because at the end it's like
Um, I don't know how to say that in English, but it's like this this and this and it's it's like a sequence
And if you understand the philosophy behind that then things get so much easier
And that's why I think that this course should be for everybody because if you really want to learn
how your body works and how to get
out of or rid of of
chronic
The word chronic that I always say chronic only means that that doctor doesn't know how to fix that
It doesn't mean that it has no solution. It only means that I recognize
I don't know how to fix that that's why I tell you that this is chronic
But then you they tell you because this course specifically is about more about this chronic labels that we put in
In the diseases and and then you start realizing
Oh, that was easier much easier than I expected and being able to
Learn to take care of yourself out saying no to certain things getting more sovereign in your health
That that's is priceless for me
Absolutely priceless and they do that in a way that is so you can talk to them about everything
You can put your concerns on top of the table and they always do that with a smile
So what else do you want something that gives you a nice content?
That gives you nice answers always an answer discussions other people people that are very
Similar in in terms of thinking and then always with a smile. So what else?
Yes, thank you. Thank you for that Anna. It's it was fun going to spain and
Seeing we had a friend of Anna's we worked with and josh looked at the blood
We saw things that made sense and Anna was like wow
I couldn't have come to that conclusion as quickly as you guys did know how in a way
But and the thing is with this course too, even when Anna was saying this theory and philosophy
You know this course specifically for any one of you guys that's got stuff going on and you're in an area
We cannot look at your blood
Courses like this are where you really start to understand why you're going through what you're going through
Right and it's one of those things josh said I think at one point in time
For people that go through this course depending on they don't need us to look at their blood because they really start to understand
Why things are happening?
And you know, I can't say it without a smile. It's so much fun for us when we see things
Everyone's been so confused and afraid and I don't understand and am I a victim?
This is a random thing, but then when you understand the way we look at things it all makes
I think you know, I think the hardest part for people is just
20 years of school and then they put you on the day shift they cram shit in our head for 20 years
The hardest part is to de-program that to start listening like, you know adam, you're also a music teacher you were you were before
You know, I teach first year students. I can't sit down and teach them to mix a little
All the modalities of a scale. They don't even know the major scale. I might as well be speaking Chinese to a zulu
You know and no matter I've tried for years. So like don't you get it? It just starts on the neck and they're like, no
I'll show them colors and little wheels and but two years later once they got it
They're like, oh, is that it? That's so easy
And you're like, it's not any harder than it was two years ago
You just don't have the framework to build on this and I think that's what Anna was saying like
You know, you coming from your world what they're doing is so alien
That you just don't even have the it's like when I met your kids at anarca polka with the blindfolds. I was like, what the
I wasn't that fun. They told me eyes work like this, you know, I was like, oh my god
You got it on how many how many fingers of my whole now you're
You have a course on there. Do you have any other courses?
Do you want to talk through them real quick? You've got let me just open your website
People can go to biggelsinacademy.com
Yeah back slash courses and I'll put a screenshot of this
Cool. Um, so you have are you ready to learn how your body truly works? That's is that one on sooner or no
That's just a little video right there. Oh, it's just a video. Okay, then there's big biggelsin basics 101
Yeah, and then there's the school of health and wellness. Oh, that's july. Okay. Okay. I can see uh
So the the one july 25th is the school of health and wellness
Um
And then Anna's got a course on their basics of bioenergy. Whoo. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's a new course
Yeah, I'll tell you about the courses real quick. Steve. It's yeah, just just give me a rundown
Sure. And what's nice is, you know, as we were just at confluence
You know for people the the holograms are a little interesting
It can be a little intense depending on and not everyone's ready, you know
Josh and I say holograms in the blood goes right over your head
But people like dr. Modo's work
Veda austin's work as they're showing, you know, the water is has memory and consciousness
And then we're looking that's these are great introductions into the world that we're josh and i are involved in
Which is awesome
So for those of you that are looking at this going, whoa, what?
It's you got veda austin dr. Modo and if you can start to grasp that then we're the next step
All right, and it was very nice because veda's just had a new book come out and she put some of our images in the end of the book
You know, I appreciate that there's a bridge there, which is really nice
The courses are not the courses are not blood courses
We'll talk a little bit about here and there, but yeah
The courses are they're a philosophy and the theory behind the actual work
Which is way more important than microscopy is anyway
Well, we have the two courses are two main courses
This one's the hidden side of health care
Which is based on this book the doctors are more harmful to germs which didn't make out a lot of friends in the medical world, right
But this is a great introduction
Then you've got our other course, which is the introduction to the terrain paradigm. That's dad's holographic blood book
Which is the book that's the one that talks about the work where it came from. That's a little more science based
Both of them are easy reads. He designed them to for anyone to read them. All right
But those courses are awesome. Those both those courses are our long ones. They're 13 weeks
We do a blood basics course if you want to learn anything with from us microscope wise
You have to take one of our 13 week courses first
We're not going to teach any microscope things to anything anybody
We don't know because we've seen what people have done with a little bit of education with the microscope stuff
And they do have to be accepted after that so just taking the course doesn't get them in
We want them to attend the course. We need to get to know the person
You know because like I said, we're trying to protect our father's legacy
But we're trying to keep integrity in the work
So you have to earn the philosophy before you can get behind the microscope
Right, definitely. What's the better land of science without context is
crap crap
It's a dramatic pause on that one
We've got the big Wilson basics we put together josh nav a signature lecture
Which is out there. I think people can find it and then we did we broke that down into four other lectures
So the big Wilson 101 is basically five presentations
And then there's extra content that goes along with those presentations
So there may be exercises other webinars with the osteopath things like that. That's the basics the foundation
That's a nice one. That one's uh, I forgot that's not very expensive. That's a that's a that's a very inexpensive course
I forgot that one's not interactive though, right? That's that's like a good introduction
It does not have the live webinars
Right that one though. I did put I'm not sure if it's there if you watch that course
Then I am happy to zoom with you post
Completing all your homework to answer some questions
And with all the courses we do steve there's whenever you're watching content whether it's a live course or not
You can always type in questions right where that piece of content is
Those questions go to the josh josh is on top of it
If we're doing the live courses then we'll have discussions based on those questions during the live webinars
All right, so you're we're accessible. Yeah, the big Wilson 101 is just $99
Uh, it's unattended. You can take it whenever you want and do it self-paced and then we're happy to have a conversation with you
That's really great. I saw on your front page too. Um
Don't you have a weekly q&a or something like that on your regular big old senate? Uh,
Yeah
That's the other one. Yeah, that's the other one. That's our school of health and wellness
So this is our subscription experience josh and I charge $27 a month
Right, you do one guest webinar or topic centered webinar month and one q&a and the q&a you can ask whatever questions you want
You know as we do our courses you get people from the courses
If you take any of our courses you get access to the school of health while we're doing the course because it's basically just another way to get access to us
We can continue the discussion
You know, this is all part of the same discussion and the school of health has been fun
You know, this is where if you guys people have questions, all right
Come join the school of health for $27 you can get access to us and we get to hear your voice
You know, we don't have hundreds of people taking our courses and we like it that way
We want to be able to know you to hear your voice to get to know you
So nice we went to confluence and because we get to see these people and meet them. We're making friends
It's really nice. We've actually had other people
In our school of health and courses. We had five Australians get together
Like physically so they're not alone anymore, which is really nice. It's really
We've got all these things and also, you know
So you're starting to get these little little pods and the interviews are awesome
We're interviewing, you know, Bear Lando's on all the time. We've had osteopaths acupuncturists
Regenerative farmers, which are always my favorite, you know, a conversation. We'll have Anna on there
Um, so the interviews are are brilliant
And then we do the q&a a few weeks later also but very interactive which is fun
It's a community experience, you know, and that's what's nice. It's
You can talk about these things with us, you know, josh and I have so much to share
Dad did this for 40 years people, you know, we went to Confluence. It's like, how do I put this into an hour?
And then I forgot this and this and this, you know, josh and I used to do a two-hour presentation
We'd overwhelm everybody. We'd jam it all in there. They don't walk out like what the hell just happened
So we've whittled it down so people can digest, you know
But the school of health the courses
Really interactive really a community thing for josh and I
We can't talk about this work with everybody, you know, we have friends that aren't interested
We just went to Confluence. I'm gonna keep talking about Confluence was awesome, you know people
It's the people that are awesome and Ann and I get to talk about this with everybody people are excited
They've got thoughts, you know, I think this and we can interact on that
And we just came back to where we live in mexico, which we love and we have a community here
But not that we can talk about with this stuff and ironically we just went yesterday and
Something goes on with the couple we're talking to and she's really interested and he's not but kind of is
But it was one of those discussions where afterwards I thought
As I whined about not getting to talk about this with my local people. I I didn't enjoy that conversation
What was that money python movie waiter this conversation is no good
Exactly
So the conversations though josh can talk, you know, it gets the tmj
We have less tmj because we can talk to people in these in these courses
Do you know that's interesting too is like most people
Because of the way dot, you know white coat doctors are
Um, they they're like the god complex and they can talk down to you and they know
Shut up and I know best and then like people don't want to talk about their medical problems
They almost feel ashamed, you know, like it's a shameful act to even talk about it
But you're saying like you can have groups of people all get together going I got
This and I got that, you know, like, uh, that's just not your normal medical experience, you know
It was even in our clinic. So I remember that as a kid that's kids
We used to work in the clinic, you know
And uh the one day scheduling and listening to people and here comes this new patient
You can tell because she's afraid, you know, she's just petrified. Oh my god. Am I on the right spot?
This was weird and she sits down. I can't remember who she sat next to it was funny josh
And the woman says next to her. Oh, hi. How are you doing? You know, she's like, oh, I'm fine
So what's wrong with you?
You know, what's what's your health problem? She's like, oh, I have cancer. She's like, oh, I used to have cancer
You're at the right place
You know, it was like, how often do you go to the doctor's office and someone says what's wrong with you?
You know
Yeah, sorry, I had a very talkative clinic, you know everybody and then it's what our courses are that we had levity
You know, and it's a very serious issue talk about we had we had some humor to it
And dad when he was known for his cancer, you know, he would have people come down for a month
And he had an IV room. He didn't really believe in IVs
He just used that as a way to get the clients together basically
And he'd have the week one people in there with the week two three and four people
So the week one people had come petrified and they could see the progression
So a lot of the healing went on in that area now
Now the right support group can be great and the wrong support group can take you down
You know, but generally he didn't even believe in the IVs
He just used that as a way to get people together and to talk a little bit to talk
Yeah, the one person the one time
What was the deal? Yeah, I had cancer. Oh, yeah, me too. That was just funny watching them
And there was another one. Oh, it just disappeared out of my head. So I guess this wasn't important
But even oh no, I had I remember as a kid doing the scheduling in the office and here comes this patient
And I'm like, oh, he's not on the schedule. Did I screw something up?
Hey, how you doing?
Uh, you don't have an appointment today and he says, oh, I know
I was just in the area and wanted to stop by and say hi
How often do you go hang out with your doctor?
Never
Go to the office, you know, it's like, why are you here?
We had trouble getting people out of that clinic
Totally remember when they would interview dad, you know, he was on some shows
They're like, can you put a white coat on her scrub? He's like, absolutely not
Yeah, he put on his Mickey Mouse mask
Like we have to have you. Yeah, we'd have to have you wear this, you know, doctor's code
He said, okay, come out with his Mickey Mouse vest on
You know, can you put your hair in a ponytail and leave it not so scrappy? Absolutely not
Yeah, it is it is like that priest thing is it's it's it's like a costume
I can't take anyone serious who's wearing a Halloween costume, you know
Police officer doctor white coat like if you got to dress up in a Halloween costume for your job
Something's wrong. Sure
That's true. Yeah, unless you're a clown
I used to wear ties when I taught elementary school
I'd wear my short sleeve button. I'm sure it ties because I wanted the kids to get used to people with ties
You know, it's like just because I wear a tie doesn't mean I'm important, you know, or very serious, you know
Or gonna, you know, scold you because of discipline and things like that
And I thought about this at one point getting Anna a nice big white coat
Right so she can do her presentations, but then on the back of it paint a big smiley face or a peacock, you know
So she could stand on stage and go
And then turn around
You can see the joy on the back, right?
Well, and real quick too
With the courses Anna did a course, which is great. Anna's had Anna's been doing this for a long time
And she's got courses and courses and people that have been following her for years
So she just put out her first course for us. Yay in English, which is awesome
That's on our website too with basics of bioenergy
And this is another one of those things guys, you know to give you the filters
When you're looking for something something's not right, you know
When people say we have this quantum technology, you know, and you go who quantum technology
But then you take Anna's course and realize quantum is
A marketing term. What is quantum Anna?
What is what is that actually something that is so difficult that you're not going to understand that so don't try
Yeah, so I'm an expert word. What word could we use then when we believe everything is connected?
God
You
You speak so fast then you complain that I speak very fast. I keep telling I'm texting him speaks slower
What's what's the word Anna if we can like if we were to say, you know, this word that encompasses everything, you know
That sounds everything is interconnected with the oneness. It's oneness the over the overwhelming oneness of all
Right
Yeah, you can say terrain too
You can talk about a system or a
Or a bigger organism
You know, we are used to thinking in in the universe as things
And what if they are not things but beings and so if it's a being in your in your body, you don't have to
Say to anyone that this finger is connected to your heart because it's obvious
So what if it was like that? But anyways, I went to another place
As it always happens to me that I just go to
This is the mind of the scientist, you know, I have to tell her slow down. Is that in the course or what?
Yeah, her course in her course in her course. Yeah, great
I'm in my course in my course. You're going to to learn a lot of things that are going to blow your mind
That are going are going to also put you upside down because this is what happened to me too
So I think it's a it's a very nice course for all the curious minds that want to
That realize that we are much more than what we see
And that what you like to what you see is what you don't see
And for all the people talking about I'm sorry. I'm sorry go on
For all the people talked worried about nanotechnology and I actually worked in a nanotechnology laboratory
All right, yeah, so
Well, and what you said if we look at the course description, this course presents the scientific foundations for energetic medicine
Right, not only not only electromagnetic, but also encompassing other possible more subtle practices
If you want to understand the world of energy and clear up any doubts about whether some techniques make sense
This is the course for you. This is what we're trying to do, Steve
We're really trying to if we could just
If people could know what we know
Then they're going to have this nice foundation to really make sense of everything else that's going on and they build upon that
You know josh9 the physical body energetic emotional spiritual and with the electromagnetic getting much more in depth with the mind and consciousness
You know, this is what we want to do. We want to educate and empower people so you guys can navigate this world
You know people will come to us
They'll say what do you think of this and what do you think of this and these are the discussions
But the reality is once you start to take these courses
Then people can come start coming to you and saying what do you think of this and this
If we have those filters we put on the terrain lenses
We can see things a little more clearly and and I think it simplifies things for people
Yeah, speaking of do we have to it's shameless plug time. We're forgetting mari
I promise that we plug her book
So she's got a course as well
Tell us a little bit for people who haven't watched you and I last time with her by the way people
I adam and mari and I did one of these. I don't know was
Couple month. I don't know rip you cut a little while back
And then adam and I did one of these last year
With the holo the holographic blood. So if anyone's watching this saying what are these people talking about holograms in the blood
If you just scroll back to like last year probably right after anarchipoca. So maybe march of last year
We did I think two hours where we show you these holograms in the blood and talk through it and all that
So anyone who's new to this and doesn't know what we're talking about
But yeah, tell us about mari real quick and then let's plug her book
Sure
And mari's
If you go when you go to the biggleson academy and you click on the courses page
You'll see our courses the one at the top is the one we're offering that's coming up in june 5th hidden side of health care
And uh, just so you know when anyone takes any of our courses the content is open for you for a lifetime
What we do with the course we trickle the content out and then as soon as the course is done
We keep it open and when we offer the course again, you're invited back to all the live webinars and all that stuff
So we want to keep the discussion going. That's that's what's really cool about the courses
Yeah, we give them all once a year our courses and if you take it once you can come back next year
So we've had several people there three or four years showing up every every course and it's it's a blast
And with ana and I you know ana
We came up with this idea of this university of terrain
Which is great and ana's been running with it because her platform, you know, she's got her courses and it's working
Josh and I are still getting our foundation together more or less, you know
But what dad did was simple as he educated people with the blood
Showed them where the blocks were we're teaching the theory and philosophy behind this
However, then dad did some treatments. He worked with the osteopaths, which we talked about before which is great
These these guys are they're they they're heroes of ours. All right the classical osteopaths
But then dad did other things and he worked with the isopathic remedies
The isopathic remedies are the waste product of the bacteria and the fungus
We were talking about this earlier
And this is the idea in the body the crash course little guys that move around symbionts
They morph and adapt through pleomorphism based on our terrain and they will morph and adapt into bacteria and fungus to help us
All right, and the waste product of these things. Those are the remedies
All right, we're really creating these remedies in our inside us
When we met Mari Mari worked with the company that develops the remedies, which is awesome
And this is what her course was this isopathic remedies course
Josh and I are not doctors
We can't tell you to take these things even though we have our association
You sign your life away that we can tell you whatever we want
We're concerned with making sure the right people say the right things at the right time
So you learn from us, right if we do the consultation
We'll show you the blocks and we may guide you towards Mari
She what she does was a piece of what dad was doing
So it was really nice to come across her to develop this course with her
Um, and she's uh, she's awesome because she's new york, you know also so we can definitely talk to her without the filters
No filter there. Take that. She's it kind of gal
As josh said like it's you know
Mari's great like it shows what you were saying you guys really kind of vet who you're working with and want to
Your team has to be all cool like there's not going to be any a-holes working around you guys
Right. No and our team needs to have some experience. You know Anna's had experience. She's worked in laboratories
She's worked with patients
You know Mari's worked with patients for a long period of time. She observed patterns like dad did
You know, so that's awesome. There are people on the team that are you know more theoretical
We can have these discussions and come up with ideas. What is your take on these things?
This is why barrelando is awesome for us because the experience is he had was just like dad
You know getting in these different areas and then coming back with tools and observing people observing reactions over long periods of time
So mari's had experience her new book is cool. It's funny because you know, josh and i josh reads josh eats books
I don't read
I don't read but mari passed the book on to us and was something that's really neat about what mari did with the book
Uh, she can she wanted to be the indiana jones of like herbal medicine as a kid
She's like i'm gonna zoom in on my with my whip
And grant out my bag of herbs
You know, uh, which is great, but she observed even historically. She's looked at different indigenous cultures
You know, so she's seen patterns there. So she's been an interesting piece of the puzzle for us. It's really nice to have her
Josh and I don't have a lot of people we can refer to we can refer people to modalities
And then you have to go and find out and then we can help you work with you to figure out
Whether or not that person was the right person because you know, we get five different osteopaths
And sometimes they're doing different stuff depending on
So mari's one that's been consistent for us, which is nice. She understands that we're talking about
Her book that's just coming out. We need more books like where do they get this book?
Is it on your website or amazon? Like we're
I don't think it's been released yet. It's just about to be released. Um, it's called germs are not our enemy
Which is a great name
Um, I'm not sure it's quite out yet. I just got the email today
Well, I'll reach out to her and then I'll you know, I'll put it in the show notes
Uh, I'll ask her where to where to get it and then she can see links later
And I just want to make sure we get her a good plug in there because she's so great too
Yeah, I got you. She's pretty much got all of our courses also
You know, so she'll be there for the hidden, you know, generally for the hidden side of health care
She'll be there on thursdays for our webinars also
um people like mari and anna
We'll come in with this really left brain scientific point of view but understand the right, you know, the right brain also
I've been really great additions for us because
Adam and I are not that
You know, we we have the experience
We have a little experience in a lot of ways
But when people want to know a lot of the deep science people like mari and anna are there and it's really helpful
Yeah, right and it's actually germs are not our enemy dot com
All right, she's got her own website for it. Great. You can pre-order. Yeah, it's almost out
Yeah, I'm gonna get that one too. Actually. I love all that stuff. I'm also indiana jones nerda herbs, but
It's a good it's a good thing steve. I could see you with a whip swinging it
Well, and dad wanted to be the sherlock holmes of medicine. He said that md stood for medical detective
Right. Yes. Yeah, totally. We got the indiana jones and we got the sherlock holmes, right and all that stuff
Yeah, I mean, it's crazy too. Like dma, you know, I understand what you guys are saying too like
You're not real known and you kind of don't want to be because they were messing with you guys so much in the day
You can only deal with their bs so long and you're just like fucking leave me alone. You know, I just want to do my thing
But I think we're at a stage now where
Because of the people we were talking about earlier who do conspire to do very bad things to a lot of us
Um, I think it's time that people like you guys you do need to now
People need to know about you. It's it's getting that time. Like we need we need this now
That's why we're saying this and it's you know, 30 years ago people weren't ready for it with dad and dad was ready
You know, but right now and even with something that went on over the past four years, you know
Brandon murphy said something once he said we need your voice. No one can say this
But you and if you don't say it no one's gonna say it
You know, so people are ready now, which is nice. Josh and I are easy, you know as much as we'd like
You know hundreds of people signing up for our courses because well, we'd make some money and then we can buy more microscopes
It's not about that
You know, it's really about the right people and it is it's been nice because dad was a fighter
He fought he fought for his country in vietnam and he fought against his country for health freedom
You know, josh and I aren't here to fight. We're here to make friends
You know, I don't have the capacity and the energy to be attacked and for people to you know
Jump on us for these things
But the nice thing is people come to us when they're ready
You know, we don't get a lot of combative stuff with what we're talking about because
Well, we're not on the Joe Rogans and the Oprah Winfrey's, you know
Where people are going to jump out and attack everybody because this is what people love to do
Especially in the internet age you're stupid, you know, they can hide behind their screen and
And say things and even it's funny because as josh and I do these things, you know, I did the one with you
and uh
Was talking about the ridiculousness of the live one analysis and the nano stupidity that they were talking about
And you know, then later on I go and I look in the chat because I like to interact
But of course there were people in your chat saying adam should talk to this anna mel hausea because she really knows
It's like, oh, so adam doesn't go to the chats
You know what I mean? We're not here to fight with people as much as I love to kick some people on the testicles
I don't want to kick anybody in the testicles
You know, I don't want to do that
So thank god for the courses, you know for the people that are ready to hear what we have to say
For people like anna, you know that can reinforce what we're talking about
People like mari also even it's interesting, you know, because uh as I have become friends with andrew kaufman
I like that guy. He's he intimidates me, you know, he's the one who's going to poke holes in your stuff
You know and well, he's good with what we do
So I feel really good about this whole experience, you know
And I love these discussions when we get the david parkers in our courses and the don blasters, you know
And they ask the questions
And then sometimes we don't know and we bring anna in, you know, and then josh like it get to learn, you know
It's really it's it's been an awesome experience for us doing these courses
You know and josh said it too. I really think that if more people took the courses we would have to look at less people's blood
Because they'd understand that much more right and it's not that i'm here to, you know
Talk people out of consultations because that's what we do
You know, we're here to really do our best to educate and power people dad's goal was to get you the hell out of the office
And have you go live in your happy healthy life
Well, that's the thing is you guys have a shitty business model
All of themselves and they don't come back
Like that the other guys they're all they have a business model man sickness is an industry
They they get paid to keep you coming on back, you know, so it's great what you guys are doing
You're probably broke as hell because
You don't have any repeat customers. Yes, adam has to live in mexico, you know where he loves it
You know, i'm still struggling to afford to live where i am
So yes, we would like to make more money, but that's not what uh
That's not what drives us
But you know one of the great things about dad's work in the course is it takes the fear of the unknown out of the situation
Right and fear cells and fear kills and and you know fear makes money and fear can control you
And you know once you learn how once you learn how nature works everything gets so simple
Right and it's funny because we have a couple of marries a naturopath that we call her. She's a recovering naturopath
You know my good friend dr. Clinton Zimmerman. It comes in. He's a recovering naturopath
You know and they're two of my best friends
And naturopaths on a whole the newer ones have not been taught how nature works and it's the pathology of nature
You know, so it's one of those things where it's very very simplistic and once you understand that things aren't attacking you
Right, there's nothing invisible that's trying to attack you everything out there is evolving through symbiosis
It's a much gentler place to live we can relax in a parasympathetic so we can heal
You know, so it's a lot of fun
But there's a lot of levity that's incorporated into it because life should be that way
You know and dad always said, you know, health is simple people are complicated
And hey, I'm still a work in progress, you know, I'm still working on some of the fear from being attacked
You know and that comes across in some of the courses
And we'll talk about some of my stuff as well as everybody else's stuff in there
And it's part of the healing process and one of my dad one of my favorite dad quotes was
We're victims only until we learn the truth if we continue our old patterns that would become volunteers
Right, so we all choose we all choose our path in life
You know, and if we want to live in fear, there's plenty of practitioners out there ready to feed off that
We're not we're not at that point where you need to come to our course when you're ready to come out of that fear mode
That's what we're there for
Right. Well, that's funny too, Steve because there was a point in time
Anna you did someone did an interview with you
And during pandemic and the guy said to you
So you're a scientist, you know, what do we do? How do we keep ourselves healthy in the midst of all this?
Do you remember what I'm talking about? Do you remember what you said there, Anna?
What was your what was your answer for that one?
And the answer is normally walk barefoot under the sun
That's are the three things you should do to keep you to keep your body healthy
Just walk and then they can give you all the explanations of why scientifically this is what you have to do, you know
All the facts with the bones and this piezoelectricity and how they charge the batteries and how the easy water from for like
I can give you all the explanations, but life is as easy as that
Just let's come back to nature. Let's come back to what is normal
Let's what it should be normal. That is not normal anymore. But walk barefoot under the sun
She'd also did say that. Sorry. So even dad said that Adam, you know, dad was super left brain
You know, we talk a lot about the misinformation about ph's in our course
And he says, all right the easiest way the best way
To to balance your ph out is joy
All right, this is coming from a left brain trauma surgeon
Right, even Anna was got one of the higher functioning brains I've ever seen take your shoes off
Walk in nature
It's that simple. Yeah. Hey, what are you guys going to ask you because Anna before you got here earlier?
uh, we were talking
Some of the stuff some of the uh alternative health people push that is different from where you guys come from
What what do you think about people drinking baking soda and all that crap to like
For their ph low. What word do you stand on?
baking soda guzzling
So the baking soda I personally don't like it at all
And I can tell you why and it's just a personal experience not in my body
But with a friend that she had a horrible reaction because of the baking soda is very alkaline and with the acidic
Of the acid in the stomach. It creates a reaction that burned the whole
Uh esophage esophage is it said the suffagus esophagus. So she was totally totally burned because of drinking
Just a little spoon with water. So from that moment on it's like this should be out. But then it's it's like
We we don't understand what is the ph and we don't understand that ph is just one-third of the information
If you want to talk about the bioelectronics, you need the ph you need the ph is just about protons
Then you have electrons and then you have the resistivity
So hyper focusing in one single thing makes you totally meet the point
What is the healthiest food we can eat is the fermented food?
Isn't it is what life begins fermented food kombucha
Kimchi whatever you want to do those those are what life begins and this is acidic
so
it's like why are we trying to
Change the speech to a different way where we know that this is just one-third of the picture and
I don't believe that's a solution for anything at all
Well to me, it's like we're batteries and batteries have acid
Your battery doesn't work. There's no battery acid in it. So but like daniel reuters was talking about, you know, different parts of your body are
Some's acidic one needs to be alkaline like
And I don't even know that drinking baking soda even gets into your interstitial fluids. Did I say that?
Interstitial, I can never say that word interstitial. Yes, I can't say that. Interstitial
Is there any proof that that does anything like to change your I don't it's all about a balance
Yeah, it's all about balance and realize if they're testing the pH all you're doing is
Testing in the direction your train is going you're testing the results
You're not testing you don't find the cause of anything and they're getting it so bass awkward
They can you know, they're taking their urine pH and that's what their environment is
Now if your blood is alkaline it dumps acidic waste your urine is going to be acidic
But your terrain is going to be alkaline
So they've got everything bass awkward is out there
But if you're trying to fix something by treating the pH directly, you're not treating the cause you're treating the results
Right
I had another one to ask you guys and oh
uh
Yeah, friend of ours adam. I'm not going to say her name
But um, there was a little bit of a fight in the health freedom community recently over
People drinking out of copper vessels and wearing copper and metals and things like this
um
I was kind of curious, uh
I told this person. Well, I
I'm not going to start health fights because I smoke cigarettes and drink beer
I'm like the last yeah skeleton bites from but uh
I said go go to the biggles since they might be sympathetic
But I was actually curious like where do you stand on all this drinking water out of copper jugs and
Do you think it's metal poisoning or do you think copper?
I was told that we need copper in our brain and that's why you eat meat now
I I don't you have to shit your ears BS. So
Kind of wondering where you guys stand on that. That's a good question, you know, and Anna
I'm curious to you have to say about this, you know, if nothing else we're always thinking about nature
You know, is a deer drinking out of a copper plate?
You know, is copper part of nature? Sure. Is it part of what goes on in the body?
Yes, are we supposed to hyper focus on it? I don't know about that
You know, I've never done it. Josh has never done it. Uh, Anna, what's your thoughts on that?
Copper is conductive, you know, and there's that going on. What do you think, Anna?
We need we need a lot of trace elements in our body. So as it works and the body
The thing is that look at this. This is this is again upside down because we think that
Our body is just a thing
That makes like breaks down in in little components and then built again
But our body does chemical transmutation
That's absolutely nuclear transmutation. So that means that you eat
magnesium
to have calcium
Or you eat seletium to be able to create calcium or things like that you you get sodium so as you can create potassium
So it's not so easy like I need copper or I need
Calcium I need to eat calcium. No, if you eat calcium is going to go to the wrong place
If you have a calcium deficiency, you should check what is about your magnesium or your seletium in your diet
You know, so nothing in in in our body is like what it looks like
You know, so this is the first thing
So if I need copper, which I don't know if I need it or not
Probably is not by eating copper that I'm going to get it
I knew about the silver because the silver has has certain properties that can help
For example, when you have a boon, it can help you to heal easier
So I was used to learn about the the silver and the colloidal silver the copper
I've seen that very recently. Honestly, I don't know
but
All these ideas of the supplements
Even in this other form of now just using a jar that is made of some but it's like getting a supplement of that
I don't agree with that because of these chemical transmutations that we do all the time
And this has been absolutely proven even when the the scientific community doesn't want to look at that
So once I started realizing that that our body is not just
I have calcium
I destroy the calcium and I put the calcium again in another no it does transmutations
You eat one thing and you
Transmute that I don't know what other words to say
Transform that in a totally different element that is going to go wherever it has to go
So I think we should trust a little bit more our nature
And and one of the things that people don't talk about so much and for me is critical is the salt
They're they're all the same like concern about the
Yeah, the copper and the other element elements, but they don't check the salt and the salt is critical that it is
We have to have a whole webinar on that atom because we've talked a lot about that
But let's say, you know, I've got a lab test and I love the farm the regent farmers are like all lab tests are wrong
But some have a use some have a use. All right, so let's say I think I'm copper deficient. Well, why?
Why is your body not your body not absorbing the copper? You're the supplement like Anna said, it's not going to fix it
You know and the regent farmers say, you know animals in nature eat for health
And danimals that are domesticated eat for taste
And they would show you the cows break off into two separate groups and need two separate different things
Right because they knew what they actually needed
And and we live in a society where people take vitamin c every day and they haven't eaten orange in four years
Right because and then they think that the orange only has vitamin c in it
Right, there's a balance to what's going on in there and whether vitamins or exists
I don't care about that argument
Right, but whatever's going on in a piece of food is it's balanced by nature
And that same balance does not come in a pill bottle whether it's pharmaceutical or whether it's natural
Right. Yeah, I agree. It's it's also the energy like the fruits
They grow up toward the sun, you know
This is alchemy like the the fruits you reach up to the tree because they're up by the sun and the energy
And the vegetables are magnetic. They're down in the ground rebuilding
Yeah, like you like you said josh, it's just look at nature like it's already got it all
Sort it out. I I used to do the same
I never took vitamin supplements because
When I take them on an empty stomach, I need to vomit and they say, oh, you got to eat some bread first
And I'm like, no, no, no if you eat something and you want to puke right away
Something's wrong. And then like the ones I had would be like bright yellow coated within 30 minutes
I'd pee like this neon
And I was wondering, you know, uh, this she lit she legit. Is that what you call it? She uh
Yeah, it apparently it smells and tastes so freaking bad. You got to like do whatever you can to wash it down
And I'm like, should you really be eating something that just smells like shit like nasty?
You know, is it really that beneficial?
I don't always looking for external inputs to fix what's going on internally
And and I think the right practitioner can give you
A food-based supplement that's going to support things while you're fixing the actual problem
You know, but it's got to be a food-based. It's got to be coming from food itself, you know
But yeah, we talk a lot about that in the chorus. Don't we Adam?
But people are always looking for an external input and what it is is it's kind of a lack of accountability for doing the actual work
Right. There's there's a reason you're sick. It's a process to get sick and it's a process to get healthy
Right and some of these things can be very supportive. They can be very complimentary
While you're working on what the actual issue is
You know, and that's going to be different different for everybody
And it's really it's it is important, you know, maybe it's not that it's what you're getting out of the food
But it's the process that the body is going through to get what it needs out of the food
That's the deal
You know when you're eating something your body's got a whole process going on
So is it just what's in it or is it that process? That's really what's important for us
You know, and this is funny too. It's just again. Anna missed the first part
Um
As we were talking about Steve was saying and I you know, like if someone came to us
What things do we see that are typical? What would we do about it? You know and looking at Steve?
You know, you look great Steve, you know, and I know it's not that you just have, you know
Your sun lamp on you're doing tanning and things like that. It's because I died my beard, man. I'm not gray anymore
Well, that's it's a funny one because I've heard people die your beard. It's like, uh, I don't care
I did my died my beard blue once that was fun
um, but you know
Why
can Steve
Smoke his cigarettes and drink, you know and play music, you know, and he's got he's exuding energy, you know
Why does he look the way he looks? It's not that he's preserved and pickled, you know
From pharmaceuticals and things like most people have been but part of it is because the joy that you get out of life
You know what I mean?
What's more important than what you put into the body is the attitude with what you're eating
It's the attitude which with you're going through life with, you know
When we're having these issues and we're afraid and we're frustrated and we're angry
We'll create tension and then our systems don't work as efficiently
So before for me before i'm going to go get some copper, you know bottle
I want to get to my osteopath. I want to align the body. I want to put up the pathways of elimination
I want to know i'm putting good stuff in the body in the first place
All right, I'm not a potato animal, mineral or vegetable. Am I moving am I exercising at all?
All right, and I don't do these crazy routines. I do 20 minutes a cheek on in the morning
I do some sea salt or some sea water, you know, we've got salt around here
We're always putting a little salt in the tongue. It helps with the electrical experience here
You know food. I love food the amount of joy I get out of our food is awesome
You know, so it's kind of fun Anna looking at steve, you know
He doesn't look unhealthy
And it is funny because we even talked about, you know, our grandfather josh, you know
Drinking wine out of the box till he was 90 something people smoke and cigarettes till they're 100 years old, you know
What are the important things for us for health?
You know one thing is understanding another thing is not getting sucked into the damn rabbit hole of confusion
All right, and getting the joy out of life is so important
And remember this one Anna, uh, we were in Tijuana Rosarito area and remember that remember when I had that burrito Anna
I had this bacon wrapped shrimp burrito
Right and just think about this Tijuana bacon wrapped shrimp burrito just sounds like food poisoning
Right and I didn't have a good reaction
But why you were there Anna? What was what was the problem with that burrito for me?
The problem was the conversation
The problem was not the burrito that was delicious
The problem was that there was a person there that we were talking to and that conversation was
horrible and that created that and you were lucky that you didn't create an allergy because those are the typical conversations
That after that you have an allergy and you can never eat again that and you don't know why and so I have a
Food allergy and I cannot eat muscles. Yeah, because you were divorced in the moment that you were eating muscles and
Is that connection? Yeah, it was a conversation
Yeah, right. So it's supporting, you know, it's it's really supporting all of us. Okay
I love food, you know, I I eat very well and then I like my milkshakes
You know and things like that and some junk food, but it's about a balance
You know, I've been to the taco shops with you, brother. I know
I might overlay a few of those pictures over here
Those pictures for me Steve
I can see those pictures and I can feel the joy of that moment
And I'm convinced that I can look at my blood at a point in time where things are tough
And if I look at pictures like that and do the blood before and after that's going to change my experience
You know, it is it is really funny post a picture for you guys listening
You know
Some of my great memories and joys in life, you know around food and having tacos with steve falconer in mexico at
Mid midnight, you know one of the clock in the morning is one reason we are as healthy as we are steve
All right. Yeah, that's that's joy to you know
I
Live my life
I'm not afraid of death. I when I liberated myself from the fear of death when which I simply did by living
What I wanted to do I just stopped working in cubicles and office like you know, I just went out and quit my
massive paying job and went and played music went to another country and
To me once death's the worst thing that can happen to you
And once you're not afraid of that because you know, you're eternal
And there's like I was talking to any kaufman about it. You know, there's all these people in the alternative movements are like
This place is the this place is hell
We're trapped in a simulation of a satan this place is hell
And I want to get the fuck out of here and never come back
And they're like by the way, don't take that injection or eat peanut butter because it'll kill you and you're like
They're like totally health obsessed and you're like, I thought you want to get out of here and never come back
Why don't you take the shortcut and eat m&m's?
That dad would say that if you're too busy living you have no time to die
Right. Yeah, and that's what's nice, you know, when people one of the reasons people love you steve is because of your energy
You're living damn it. You know what I mean? And it's it's a funny thing with you
Contagious I have to say
Oh your smile is so contagious that nobody can be upset or sad beside you and that's awesome
You can talk to my ex-wife about that
She's on her journey always well
But it's true, you know for people listening they love hearing your voice, you know what I mean
And it's really, you know when steve falconer is laughing people are laughing also
And it really is it's not and not just to you know pump you up because you put us on your show
But you're you're you are an example
Okay, now for all of us that's important for me as I lead by you know the actions I take
You know, I do have the rebounder here and I do my good stuff and at the same time I do
Things that aren't so great, you know, uh, it's nice to have a shot at tequila sometimes
I'm not drinking the whole damn bottle, you know, that's fine. It's nice to have my ice cream
Yes, I am eating the whole pint of ice cream, but I don't buy a gallon or half a gallon
I just buy a pint
All right, and then the next day my stomach wakes me up early and I say, okay. Hold on. I'm sorry
And then I'm very impressed with my digestive system and my my pathways of elimination are open
Right
This is that you guys are the people you work with your
Your approach is not like don't do that. Don't do that
You guys are more like hey, man, let's live some life
But let's maybe I don't know you want to try this too and see you know like you guys
You're not this is not like a normal medical experience, you know, I
Like I just I don't go to the doctors
I don't know was Herbert Shelton one of them guys said if you don't want to get sick don't go to the doctor
But I go to you guys though the doctors
Yeah, they don't go to their they don't go get their checkups. They're obligated to find something wrong with you
You know that's 80 still enter Taylor still was the the father of osteopathy
And he would travel around walk from village to village in the 1800s
And he noticed that in the villages where there was no doctor there the children were very healthy
Yeah, right and you know what now Steve you were talking about these people that are
Wanted to finish this experience and ascend to the fifth dimension
And all these things that is interesting that the more spiritual people are the more materialistic that they'd say that
We live in a simulation that is quite interesting
You know because it's so deterministic and so materialistic, but anyways, but I see that is very trendy now all the biohacking
That and it's very interesting because it has two sides the biohacking that is transhumanism
And it's the same name and the biohacking that supposedly is
Improve your body and I always I I always think
But why don't you trust your nature? I mean you have this innate
Intelligence that makes that each cell of your body knows what it has to do at the moment that it has to do and knows everything
And now you want to hack them
To do what you think it's better
And it's so for me so nonsense all this idea
And I know that there are people that are following these biohackers and they have millions of people following them
To see how can you improve?
But how can you think you can improve nature?
What is that arrogance?
You know and what I love about the the this this guys here the bills is that
They don't complain about anything you go to their webinars and this is there is no space for complaining
There is no space for criticizing anything. There is just solutions. Let's see. What can we do?
The rest I'm not interested if you talk to Josh specifically. I'm not interested this
I'm not interested and I love that because that's good
There is no space for just starting criticizing
What the other people are doing. No, no, no, no, no. We are not here to criticize anyone
We are here to build again
Something that is based on nature and the wisdom of nature
Not the wisdom of arrogant humans the thing they can do that better and this is something so interesting
Do you know it's funny?
Go ahead Josh
I will complain about my cross campus from time to time, but as you know, I'm learning on that one
And we're we want to invite everybody, you know
But yeah, it's it's dad and the farmers will say the same thing that
Humans got it wrong and they thought they could improve on what nature provides and what nature does
And my dad wrote a great article called do not call me alternative
Right, and you know, there's wording behind that. It means secondary basically. There's no alternative the way nature works
All right, all we can do is support it and you know, I'm part of our education
As we need to learn how nature works in the first place. So we're not separated from it
I was just going to say, uh, you remember that song remember loving rockets, adam
No new tale to tell
There's a line in that song that says you cannot go against nature because when you do go against nature
It's a part of nature too
Which is great. Nice. So all these all these people are transhumanist
Nature's doing that they came from nature too
Whatever they're up to needs to teach us a lesson or maybe nature needs them to build some dumb
Shit that it can't do so. It's gonna let them do it
Right, you know, I don't know
Maybe you'll help them decompose
Yeah, they're all like black mirror, you know that I don't transhumanism to me is all black mirror shit
Like I just see this going very wrong
It has potential to go incredibly bad
And we don't we don't talk about it in our courses and you know, I remember we had when we're talking to bear adam
Do you remember this where somebody was asking about biohacking? He's like if one more person's mentions biohacking
I'm gonna throw up on my mouth
And that was the end of the biohacking conversation
We have a better thing to talk about
Well, and it's fun too, Steve, you know, we like talking about some of these things, you know
It's like as the guy that's living with us Steve awesome guy
Uh, he was him and his brother were running a stem cell laboratory for a very famous clinic in bahá
And the tesla device comes out and steve wants to build it
He wants to see, you know, and it's funny because it's really cool impressive, you know in this electricity
Yeah, wow
But then you got people like Anna
Explaining what it is there and how we have that within us as well
You know one of the best things. Yes. One of the best things we can do is
Hands on, you know, we're sharing energy from ourselves, you know
There's something very real about that and I can see dad would always say people would ask dad questions
What about juicing dad would say I've never seen a deer juicing in the woods, you know
Uh, what about chiropractic?
I've never seen a deer give another deer a chiropractic treatment
But like josh said the deers don't have, you know, the stresses that we have
Uh, deer using a tesla device in the woods, you know, things like that
Um, right. Good look there, Anna
Uh, but it's neat as we do these things as we have these courses
You know, we don't know everything like I said before but between us we have all the answers if we have the discussions
Which is then where we can bring people like Anna into the discussion
You know, and it's neat even to you know, people like you
People like alex zek, you know, you guys are you're asking questions and you're helping people
You're helping tell stories, you know, it's funny because alex is not a practitioner. You're not a practitioner
You know, but you're bringing we're not practitioners. We're not practitioners. That's true
entertainment purposes only
I need a space busted disclaimer
That's just educational but entertainment works also
Entertainment is awesome. Oh, yeah educational. I said entertainment
But for educational entertainment purposes only that's what we'll do
But it's nice. We have the discussions that we have resources
We have people like Anna that have an experience dad had experience
You know, we can talk to bear that's had experience and then there's you and I you know, they get to go live our experience
You know, it's further action is equal and opposite reaction
So if you come and take these courses read these books or whatever you find some new actionable information
And then what do people do most of us don't do anything
You know, it was a shiatsu master that said to us once move move think
Take action. There's reaction take two steps. Then observe the reactions. Most of us think think move
I could do this. I could do this. Most of us actually think think think think and never move
Right, so it's nice, you know, you ask the questions
Awesome, you get some information and then you're going to go get that much more joy out of your food
Right your coffee in the morning if you guys if you get joy out of that coffee in the morning
If you really love it
If you're not drinking it in the car on the way to work, you know
While looking at your phone and reading the news
Enjoy your coffee. That's important for the health. The joy is so important
You know, I think a lot of the health, you know, the lot of so many people are obsessed about all the health
It almost like ruins their time. Like, you know, in our capoco
Year in therapy was the talk of the one of the days or not that, you know, like it was that was being discussed
And Adam's like, I'm not drinking my best
I know you have someone working with you who's a really
Year in third year and up woman and she looks lovely and glows and is beautiful. So I'm not dissing it or not
I'm just saying, uh, you know, you're like, I don't need to like
Different it's from nature, which is one thing with what dad did
We've never needed to do it to do what we do, you know, it's one of those tools for certain people
And I think it's fine. It is interesting though how people get so obsessed with certain things, you know
The new german medicine community and the discussions
It's like there's pieces of the puzzle here, you know with the urine experience, uh, and that's as fiona
She's looking at it under the microscope. I'm curious, you know, I support that definitely
I don't need to do it to drink it myself or to wipe it on my skin when, uh, ruben gets stung by the stingray
You know or the jellyfish and they're like, oh pee on it. Okay, great
You know, there's something there. There's something to be learned from it without question and different things for different people
You know, so it is that's an interesting one because people want us to support all kinds of things
It's different strokes for different folks and then somebody things get this cult follow
And there's not one thing that's good for everybody
You know, even when it first came up, it's been around for a long time. We look at nature
And there's certain animals that will only drink their urine during acute situations
All right, something goes on. There's some sort of injury. They'll use it for a very specific thing
They're not drinking it every day, you know
So there's got to be something to it, but there's such a cult following be some behind some of these
Not that it's a fad but dad would call it the fad of the week and review
You know back back in the 90s people were doing a shark cartilage for for cancer because sharks can't get cancer
Well, they can't get cancer because they have no bones and cancer loves calcium, right?
So he says a rock doesn't get cancer. It doesn't mean it's going to help cure cancer
Do some house eat dirt
It's it's one of those things. Yeah, there's nothing that we endorse totally
We we love the osteopaths get some body work gets some alignment
But you know what works for Adam might not work for me. So I'm not going to push it on
It's just that we're just there to educate people and then they gotta follow their own path to healing
And it's still really Steve, you know, and and I'm sure you'd agree with this before we start looking at the copper bottle
Did we go to the osteopath? Did we align the body?
All right, are we doing things to get our energy to move?
Do we have our emotional tools and emotional practices? Have we got the mercury out of the mouth?
Have we addressed the root canal? All right, we've got scars and adhesions that are pulling and creating blocks
Have we addressed those there's so much that can be done before we look to these external experiences
And that's really what josh and I are trying to do, you know Anna as well
Anna is interesting because she's the electrical woman, you know, she works with devices
And she's played with so many of them. Yeah, which is fun. They're fun, right?
So like a comic book character electrical woman
Yeah, definitely
We're getting her cape. She's got the others her coil, right?
She's got it's fun out of all those things Anna
Do we need any of them?
Well, mostly
In most of the cases we don't need them
It's again the same. I I will tell you walk barefoot and you tell me oh, I live in Alaska. So don't work
Don't work barefoot
So probably for people that live in Siberia or live in Alaska and they have special needs let's say because of the terrain they are living
It can happen that you need an extra supplement if you want, but we should
Just was saying that very clear. I mean people love a third part solution
Because we don't want to be accountable. So before going to the I always say there is an organic way of doing the things in a synthetic way
You first try the organic
If you are too weak if you are too sick if you are then we can talk about the third part solution and which one is the best because
Do you want that I say if we need no, let's let it for another day
Do we need a tesla device or not and why if we can talk about that?
Yeah, that's that's that's a funny one because am I trying to understand these things
I want to talk about it sometimes, you know people are looking to these things to fix them
And tell me this Anna, you know if the tesla device can give us energy is one thing, but can't
Laugh and give us energy
Of course
Can't playing my guitar give me energy gives you all the time energy
It's the same that the sun gives you energy and walking gives you energy and being barefoot and even the food you are eating
Especially if it's non-processed
It's going to give you a lot of energy
But the thing is that we have a very wrong beliefs in our society
We think that very technological means very advanced
And that's a big mistake
Because not because something is very highly technological means that it's better. It just means that it's highly technological
Doesn't mean anything else
Go ahead and that's something very expensive. It has to be very good. That's another mistake
Right. It's those tesla machines are like 30 grand if you bought one your your guy made one for a couple hundred bucks
They're like they're they're not cheap man. They're really expensive
I also wonder how much of that tesla machine could be placebo
Yes, you know the more you pay steve as an I would say the more you pay for the device the longer the placebo effect
Better for 30 grand. I'm gonna believe better
I thought you said the inventor adam of that device put the schematics out there for free because he wanted it to be shared with the world
He did yeah, he put them for free and now he's pissed and he took them out
Because he saw how people were taken advantage of that and instead of being something that was helping humanity
It was just helping the same of always
That they just won't have money
And it's interesting
It's interesting too though because this is you know with the biggleson academy were very positive solutions
I do have a new sub stack so few people can feel free to subscribe
And i'm talking about this a little bit
You know i'm gonna put the next video i'm doing is showing that steve had made it and the reality is this
Well, he's made it
He wants to put together a video and you know translate the instructions into different languages because the instructions weren't easy for him to follow
All right, but the reality is i'm not going to send this to you until we know it works and does some things
Okay, and too bad, you know if you're not happy with me because you want it now you think it's going to cure you
Okay, great
Josh and i are not those guys
We want you to do these things with nature and look at yourself first and hold yourself accountable
Before you look to that outside external thing and tell me this anna
Do you think do you agree with me that if people want to raise their energy? Okay for the people that follow steve falconer
Don't they get joy and energized out of listening to him talk?
This is pushing you here steve, you know this is and we could do experiments
Okay, we can look at the blood before and after hanging out with steve
You know i'm convinced josh and i you want to have a good healthy blood then hang out with us for an hour
We're fun, you know
Go ahead and remember i was showing that in in in the confluence when i was showing the images
I don't know if i have them in the book too or not of uh that little boy
Playing the bass, sorry the bass. Yeah
My spanish
So
You have the before and after i use these images that are not holograms
And that are not a moto but are more or less in kind of things
I see the before and after with energy fields and and i i have proven that it's not that i believe is that
i know
That this happens you create your energy with everything you are doing
With your physical movement with all the food you are eating
But also and especially with your emotions and with your minds
So every time that you are having fun and you are enjoying the experiences you are creating energy
Every time you are concerned and overthinking and you cannot stop your mind spinning
You are destroying your energy and destroying your energy is destroying your health
So this is not something i believe is something that i know because i have measured that many many times
Yeah, that's i really think it's needs to you the people that listen to you
You know your vibration is awesome
You know and it's definitely we can go paying thousands of dollars for devices
We could enjoy playing some guitar. We can enjoy listening to some podcasts, you know, that's it's very similar and i'm gonna ask you guys like
I used you don't call it chronic you said but
Chronic means your doctor doesn't know how to fix you but
Of all your experience of of people with chronicky
type conditions
Would you say a lot of them like more of the
You can't diss your clients, but more miserable in their life
I don't want to say a miserable type, but you know the kind of there's people who are like
Hey, and there's people like everything is a wrong and a drag like do you notice that pattern like
Undeniably the sickest people
Not with all of them, but yeah, there's we get sick for a reason
You know and fear is the number one killer out there as much as I want to say doctors are causing problems or
You know what they're dumping on us out there what they're injecting or mcdonald's it's not it's it's it's us
That's creating the illness in the first place, you know
And for a while you remember this Adam when I was going through this now
I was seeing people go to practitioners and not get better. I felt really bad for the person
Until I realized this is where they were at in their healing process
Right, so it's one of those things where if you have joy your frequency is
You're almost impervious to what's going on out there, you know, I'll go squat on the router if I'm eating a freaking taco, you know
And I'm gonna feel great about it
You know, I'm not gonna sit on there all the time
But we strengthen our energy field through those things through joy through talking with people like you through hanging out with
Anna and adam, you know and the fear is the opposite side of things and if people
We know there's people out there pushing to fear with an agenda, but there's also really
people with good intentions who are preaching fear also
And I just got to say if you're preaching fear, you're not part of the solution
You're part of the problem
All right, and people really get stuck in their
story
And dad would always see it you had it you have to get them out of their story
You have to get them out of their narrative, right and sometimes they'd be talking to repeat themselves
He would just start snapping and they'd be like what what?
Or he'd say, you know, josh get them out of here and do some body work for 10 minutes
You know, well, let's ground you a little bit. So, you know and dad dealt with you know, he was known for his
Cancer work, you know, we had stage 4 cancers all the time
And you have to get them to shift their attitude now. You can't just do that on its own
We're on youtube. So just be careful when you say
Kiran
You can talk about it, but don't you be careful talking about the zodiac sign. Oh, yeah, but yeah, you know, so yeah
Go ahead. Yes for cancer, but just it's a very natural progress
It's just you know, we we can decompose certain ways three different ways and one of those is is cancer
Which is a mold it's a natural process. It's supposed to happen in the grave basically, right?
So it's you don't go after that directly, but yeah, there is a heaviness
And one of the great things about what we do is we take that heaviness away
Now some cases you just can't get through to you know, and a lot of those people didn't come see us
People would come to us after they've been the traditional route and after they've been the alternative route
So they want to get better at that point in time
But every once in a while you get somebody who's just happy being the victim
You know, um, the biggest one we saw is with Lyme disease, which is a bullshit diagnosis
It does not mean they're not having issues though. So for people after they've been diagnosed
It doesn't mean you're not having issues the diagnosis is bullshit. It just means they don't know what's wrong with you
Right, but we saw there was so much misinformation out there that they would come in with nothing
There was no energy there
Like you had to really build them up emotionally
Give them some energy
Right so they could start on that healing path because they were so deflated
They were told they have something that's incurable and they're being told that's by alternative practitioners
Because traditional medicine doesn't even really recognize it in a lot of ways
You know, so you had to build them up and that's part of the brilliance of what this work does what dad did
I saw the opposite of it when I was working with alternative practitioners
They'd come in and say you've got the spirocute every damn person here has a spirocute in their body working for you
Not against you
Right, you know, they were telling them they have this they're never going to get rid of it
And there's nothing you can do about it take except take these supplements and you'd watch the person's shoulders
Just go down and down and down
So now the practitioner is part of the issue as well
So yes, absolutely. You got to shift that energy. You got to do other things though
But very very important. It's a heavy energy to deal with when you get that c-word attached to it
It's just a label. We don't care about the label
All right, but you got to build up their energy and it's going to be different for everybody
You give out of a milkshake. He's going to perk up
You know, you give me a taco if I if I see a crow flying by I'm happy
You know, so you got to tap into that person
The doctor or the practitioner needs to understand the individual sitting in front of them and that they're unique
And figure out ways to tap into that energy for them. This happened to one of my uncles
I'm not going to say which one but he was in hospital like late stage cancer
He had gone through a divorce. Uh, I can't
She's also family x family too, but like uh
It was that and then he just said screw this
He's didn't he stopped eating the hospital food was having people bring him over burger king and shit like that
You know, all of a sudden he like got better. He was in your eye
And and when he got better as he said screw her
I'm not going to let this woman kill me too and ruin the rest of my life
Like he let her go and all of a sudden he's he's eating burger king and McDonald's and he walked out of there
And my family's saying oh my grandma Billy and Jesus in heaven
All our prayers now. I do believe in group prayer. I believe the energy and intention
Is massively real phenomenon
Um, so it could be the family praying but they all thought because I come from a really
Roman Catholic religious family. So they thought it's my grandma and Jesus
But really I think he just said screw this bitch. I'm not letting her ruin this too
Walked on out there, you know, uh, definitely enjoying his life, you know, now people are gonna think oh burger king was the cure
I'm going to burger
I mean, who knows you have you ever seen that guy? He uh
There's a guy who's been eating a big mac every day for like since McDonald's came out
He's like 75 80 years old. This guy eats big max every day
And he's still alive. It's like I see
Yeah, he's enjoying. He loves big max. Yeah, he he that's what i'm saying
He like when we were talking earlier calling your food poison or whatever that's
This guy thinks big max is like the greatest thing that that ever happened to him. So
Of course, he's alive. He wants to eat another big mac tomorrow
Yeah, he's living for it. He's looking forward to it
And we talking to you generally you want to know the source of your food
You want to eat healthy, but that's living proof there that he's creating his own energy right there
Yeah, I'm not promoting big max by the way
I do eat one once in a while
Well, and for me one of my biggest joys is I've said this a lot recently on saturday
Is the yellow truck shows up at the neighborhood from this other village and it's the farming truck
So, uh, you know Anna says, oh, can you go get you know, she's going to give me an errand
I need you to go to the yellow truck my first response is okay. I have to do something
Oh the yellow truck. Yeah
And I go to the yellow truck and I get like red solo cups full of farm fresh butter
Right and cream and cheese and I forgot about this one Anna
I get I have a cup of cajeta, which is like carmel farm fresh carmel, right the amount of joy
I'm convinced that yeah, you can look at my blood before and after me just
Talking about the yellow truck
You know and that that sip of fresh warm milk in the morning, you know straight from the cow
That's illegal because it's dangerous in so many places
That's joy for me, you know, it's those little things
Big Mac not necessarily my joy for that guy, you know, that's the deal
That's why most diets don't work, you know one there's not one that works for everybody
But have you ever met somebody who's happy who's on a diet?
You know, it's eliminating joy from your food experience is what it's doing
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I mean I can see if you're like obese like you got to curb curb it a little bit
You know, but uh, absolutely
But you know if you're just normal I don't see any problem with it
Yeah, well, I think we're going on a long way. So
Is there anything else you guys want to wrap up? We didn't cover it. We can it's just no one's going to watch a three hour video
We wanted to join your course so that we want them to at least kind of make it to that but uh, I've already tuned out by now though, Steve
Oh, you know, I think I mean I think it's a great conversation. Anyway, but uh, you know
What we do want to like get people to enroll in the course
True to is there anything else where I'm missing? Oh adam, you didn't say the name of your sub stack
Is it what is it?
uh adam's insights
That helps adam's advice. Thanks. I appreciate that. This is always mom used to yell it back in the corner of our lectures
Tell me about the book tell me got a consultation. So
Josh and I are not the best at yeah, you guys suck at VR. I'm really bad
I have a children's book to the dude. Oh, shit. I got my blur thing on
Yeah, I can't see you can you
Put it right on you put it right on your chin. Usually it might
Does it work like that? Oh, there it is. Thank you. Yeah
Get them on all amazon. It's a children's book. I never plug it man. I
So
It's I don't have your goons laser balloons
Yeah, so uh
Yeah, anyway, uh, yeah, Anna was great. You joined us too. You missed the beginning. We were getting we're talking real weird old stuff
You would have loved it
Yeah, she's she's on
Yeah, uh, and josh great to meet you too. I'm just gonna hit stop record. We can all still talk
I'm just gonna stop