WEBVTT 00:02.060 --> 01:03.930 Hello and welcome to the King Heroes Journey podcast. My name is Beth Martens. I am your host 01:04.410 --> 01:10.350 and today I have the great pleasure of hosting Dr. Jacob Lieberman for his third interview. I haven't 01:10.350 --> 01:16.430 talked to him for, oh my goodness, it's almost six years. So I am pretty excited to have him here. 01:16.690 --> 01:21.610 Welcome to a few of you that are showing up in the chat here, Aliza, JJ Hempreet. Welcome 01:22.150 --> 01:31.450 and Jackie's here on time, early bird. So great and so you might be familiar with Jacob because he 01:31.450 --> 01:37.150 has certainly made the rounds in our community if you want to call it that and I couldn't resist 01:37.150 --> 01:42.910 after seeing him on Alpha Vedic the last time just how deeply inspiring and grounding and 01:42.910 --> 01:48.150 beautiful that was. I couldn't resist having him on for another one. If you're not familiar with 01:48.150 --> 01:53.190 him, his discoveries in the field of light, vision and consciousness have been enthusiastically 01:53.190 --> 01:58.750 endorsed by luminaries in the field of health, science and spirituality from Deepak Chopra 01:58.750 --> 02:03.790 and Bruce Lipton to Eckhart Tolle. His newest book, Luminous Life, which I highly recommend, 02:03.970 --> 02:10.910 by the way, I add that on repeat in my audible, how the science of light unlocks the art of 02:10.910 --> 02:16.450 living reveals how light guides are every step so we may fulfill our reason for being. 02:16.990 --> 02:21.650 Today we're going to talk specifically about the vision behind the vision because visioning 02:21.650 --> 02:26.390 is a very big subject for me right now and I know that Jacob is going to be amazing at 02:26.390 --> 02:30.970 shedding more light on it for us. So without further ado, I'm bringing him on. 02:33.310 --> 02:37.570 Hello and welcome. Do you mind if I call you Jacob or do you prefer Dr. Lieberman? 02:38.310 --> 02:43.590 I prefer Jacob. Okay, very good. Okay. I knew that about you. I don't know if you 02:43.590 --> 02:47.410 remember this because you've done so many interviews. So have I. But I do remember, 02:47.590 --> 02:52.670 I think it was the first time I brought you on and I was very nervous and I felt like I was 02:52.670 --> 02:59.510 sitting with someone much higher than me and you right away put an end to it. You said, 02:59.650 --> 03:05.110 stop it. Don't elevate me or put me on a pedestal. I'm just like you or something 03:05.110 --> 03:08.370 to that effect and that immediately put me at ease. 03:12.070 --> 03:19.590 In your introduction, you mentioned something about the vision behind the vision. 03:19.910 --> 03:24.530 That's it. So many years ago, 03:27.610 --> 03:33.590 my daughter came over to my home one day and since she wanted to speak to me, 03:34.150 --> 03:38.030 something had come up and she didn't know if she had made the right decision. 03:38.350 --> 03:45.110 And so we were sitting on the front line of my home at the time in Maui 03:46.410 --> 03:50.950 and she was sharing and all of a sudden something caught my eye 03:51.950 --> 03:58.890 and my head reflexively turned to the right and there was a big tree 04:00.890 --> 04:02.470 moving back and forth. 04:05.110 --> 04:10.330 And I said to my daughter, Gina, do you see that? 04:12.430 --> 04:16.490 I said, what do you mean, Dad? The tree? I said, yeah. 04:18.490 --> 04:28.000 I said, what do you notice about it? I don't know. It's just moving. 04:28.960 --> 04:40.500 I said, well, if you didn't know that wind existed, obviously, because you can't see the wind, 04:41.860 --> 04:46.980 you would be pretty sure that the tree was animating itself. 04:48.500 --> 04:53.860 She said, yeah, that's right. But since you know that wind exists, 04:56.120 --> 05:00.380 you know that the wind is actually moving the tree. 05:03.500 --> 05:08.700 She said, yeah. I said, what do you think is moving the wind? 05:13.960 --> 05:20.900 And she looked at me puzzled and I said, obviously something that's even more invisible. 05:23.280 --> 05:33.560 So now we go back to our first interview and you felt a little nervous, like all of us feel when 05:33.560 --> 05:41.540 we're doing something like that, whether it's speaking with another person or speaking in front 05:41.540 --> 05:56.640 of an audience. Most people feel that trepidation or the butterflies. And the fear, 05:58.900 --> 06:03.620 and I've never actually considered this until you mentioned this experience, 06:04.860 --> 06:09.900 the trepidation is because we're sure that we're doing it. 06:12.040 --> 06:21.680 You're the interviewer and I'm the interviewee. And of course, we all want to do it correctly, 06:21.900 --> 06:30.340 because our whole life is built on this idea of correct or incorrect duality. 06:31.420 --> 06:37.280 And so, gosh, I hope I don't forget what university he went to. 06:38.540 --> 06:46.000 Even though no one really cares about any of that, because the moment 06:47.680 --> 06:56.240 something comes from us, people immediately know whether there's resonance there. 06:58.020 --> 07:02.460 And so, what am I getting to? 07:04.900 --> 07:12.260 It isn't us that's asking the questions or delivering the response. 07:13.960 --> 07:21.940 The same animating force that is moving the wind is moving everything within us. 07:22.500 --> 07:30.600 And I'm not talking spiritual talk right now. I'm talking hard science as well. 07:32.100 --> 07:38.240 Everyone believes that we're thinking about things and deciding what to do all the time. 07:39.480 --> 07:45.600 But when you start looking at the neuroscience of a lot of these things, we find out that over 07:45.600 --> 07:53.040 95% of what comes out of our mouth, we are totally unaware of before it comes out. 07:53.820 --> 08:03.800 It just comes from someplace that we're unaware of. And so, I guess what I'm sharing is the 08:03.800 --> 08:13.900 sweetest part of this moment for me is that I have no idea what will come from you. 08:14.400 --> 08:21.080 And I have no idea what will come from me. But over many years, 08:22.640 --> 08:31.080 I've learned that whatever is speaking us is also breathing us, pumping our hearts, regulating 08:31.080 --> 08:37.920 our blood glucose, our blood pressure, everything. And it's been doing that from the moment 08:37.920 --> 08:44.680 we emerged out of our mother's womb and it will continue until the final breath. 08:45.700 --> 08:54.880 And so, maybe this is a good moment to just say, thank God I'm home. 08:57.520 --> 09:00.300 How beautiful. That just brought us all home. 09:00.960 --> 09:01.920 Thank you. 09:02.140 --> 09:02.880 Right at the beginning. 09:04.940 --> 09:07.240 Yeah, let's not put off the important parts. 09:09.140 --> 09:14.320 It's really beautiful. I recall you saying pretty much every time I've seen you interview, 09:14.560 --> 09:17.060 sorry for the sirens, there are going to be sound effects in the background, 09:18.920 --> 09:25.220 that you tend not to script yourself or prepare for what you're going to say, 09:25.220 --> 09:36.080 but that you show up alive in that moment. And I started out doing that almost exclusively. 09:36.560 --> 09:41.580 And then I trained myself a little bit like a warrior to do more preparation and make 09:41.580 --> 09:45.820 a list of questions and everything. And then I was thinking about my questions. 09:46.200 --> 09:51.540 I do have a few written down, but I thought, you know what, I'm just going to be the same 09:51.540 --> 09:57.920 way that you are in that conversation and just allow it to flow, which is inevitably how 09:57.920 --> 10:03.400 all of these interviews go. And that's the beauty of it for me, that there are such 10:03.400 --> 10:09.420 levels of spontaneous creation happening. So I appreciate that. 10:11.100 --> 10:19.040 This is the highlight of my life. Someone said to me recently, do you have an office? 10:19.640 --> 10:21.800 I said, well, one in my home. 10:23.840 --> 10:28.380 Well, do you see people? Well, usually online. 10:30.580 --> 10:35.740 So where do you do your work? I said, I do my best work out on the streets. 10:37.820 --> 10:46.920 What do you mean? You know, every day I go out maybe to a coffee shop once a day or 10:47.380 --> 10:54.320 I take a walk and something catches my eye 10:57.380 --> 11:08.340 and literally moves me towards someone or something and often begins to speak me. 11:11.540 --> 11:24.040 There's no doing on my part. It does itself. And what's fascinating about it is that it's 11:24.040 --> 11:31.600 miraculous because all of a sudden I find myself with someone I've never seen, 11:31.600 --> 11:36.860 will probably never see again, know absolutely nothing about. 11:38.940 --> 11:44.160 And all of a sudden we realize that there's something about life 11:45.930 --> 11:54.080 that is a major overlap for both of us and something magnificent occurs. 11:55.040 --> 12:02.580 And I notice it happens for me each time I see a young person at the coffee shop or at a restaurant 12:03.860 --> 12:07.360 just doing something impeccably. 12:09.560 --> 12:20.120 And something in me must share with them. Not only that I see them, but I am so deeply 12:20.120 --> 12:27.160 touched by the beauty in the way that they are showing up. 12:30.000 --> 12:39.640 And perhaps that their mom and dad have done a great job and it's quite profound. 12:42.310 --> 12:49.260 These little things that I experience every day, sometimes with adults, sometimes with young kids, 12:50.120 --> 13:00.640 it's just magnificent. So I not only, I don't tend to, I never prepare anything. 13:02.540 --> 13:10.940 That doesn't mean that preparing is a problem. No, no, no. Each of us must honor 13:11.540 --> 13:21.460 what is natural for us at that moment. But for me it hasn't, it's almost like I have a bit of an 13:21.460 --> 13:27.820 allergic reaction when I notice the mind wanting to make sure you get it perfectly or whatever. 13:28.880 --> 13:31.600 And I realize that 13:33.940 --> 13:39.840 people feel so much more at home with imperfection than perfection. 13:40.620 --> 13:46.700 Nice. Perfection creates a distance between the two. 13:49.000 --> 14:00.280 Imperfection is a beautiful part of naturalness and it's what allows each of us to be the same height. 14:02.320 --> 14:05.580 And that is where relationship thrives. 14:07.740 --> 14:15.960 That's my claim to fame right there, Jacob. It's interesting because I help people to 14:15.960 --> 14:21.760 deprogram. And one of the really big programs, there's not very many, but one of them says 14:22.460 --> 14:27.180 that when it's running it says, if you don't get it just right or get it perfect, 14:27.640 --> 14:33.040 that something bad is going to happen and it's almost always a death threat from the unconscious. 14:34.460 --> 14:41.800 And then it's so different because sometimes people can say, well, that means that I shouldn't 14:41.800 --> 14:49.200 work on it or I shouldn't improve or I shouldn't go for excellence. But what I notice is that 14:49.200 --> 14:56.320 it's beautiful to do things impeccably. That is a beautiful thing. The lovers in my world, 14:56.320 --> 15:02.560 me included, really appreciate that. But it's the motive, right? So that if you allow 15:02.560 --> 15:09.820 the fear of the program to drive you to excellence, then it's empty and it's exactly what you said. 15:09.940 --> 15:15.640 It creates distance from you and other people. They think you're high somewhere and they're not 15:15.640 --> 15:22.560 there. And when you just let that program go and you allow, it's what you're saying, 15:22.560 --> 15:27.760 like you allow the life force to just come through you and express and how it does, 15:28.180 --> 15:35.400 then that makes you more approachable, right? So I think that's why people have sometimes been 15:35.400 --> 15:39.720 able to enter into my world more easily because I'm not getting it perfect over here. 15:41.020 --> 15:46.400 You know, you had mentioned my last book, Luminous Life, 15:46.400 --> 15:56.860 which came out, I think, 2018. And I did a book tour within the U.S. and also one in Europe. 15:57.480 --> 16:06.040 Amazing. And when I was in Europe, I was invited to speak at the University of Economy in Prague. 16:10.400 --> 16:16.900 And when I'm asked to speak in public, I usually ask for a comfortable chair 16:18.360 --> 16:27.500 and I sit down just as the audience has seated. And I like to be as close as possible 16:27.500 --> 16:33.620 to the audience. So I put myself, I move the chair closer 16:34.940 --> 16:39.320 and I like it possible to be on the same height as them as well. 16:41.000 --> 16:49.920 And I was sitting there and I realized that this is an audience many of whom do not speak English. 16:52.420 --> 17:00.580 That's tricky. And I have a translator and I'm sitting there and I share with the audience, 17:01.880 --> 17:08.840 you know, I have no idea what I'm doing here. And they look at me and I said, I mean, 17:10.480 --> 17:18.680 this is the University of Economy. And you know, economy has to do with money and investments 17:18.680 --> 17:28.500 and these things. I said, I don't, that's not my area that I really delve in each day. 17:29.660 --> 17:37.540 And so I'm just going to sit for a moment just to see what it is that wants to be shared. 17:38.360 --> 17:46.840 And I closed my eyes. And all of a sudden what comes out of my mouth is, ah, I got it. 17:48.680 --> 17:51.780 And they look at me and I said, 17:54.460 --> 17:59.380 we think economy has to do with money. 18:01.500 --> 18:08.120 I said, but economy is another word for efficiency. 18:10.580 --> 18:21.960 And I said, and what defines economy is life. The workings of the universe 18:23.640 --> 18:28.040 define economy at its optimal level. 18:30.000 --> 18:38.700 Nothing is actually doing anything. And everything is do is being done. 18:39.560 --> 18:49.580 I said, the planets, there isn't some technology or some strong person moving the planets in their orbit. 18:52.520 --> 19:00.860 They all move and spin at their own rate all at the same time. 19:03.860 --> 19:12.420 It doesn't appear like anything is being done. Any effort is being made for that to occur. 19:14.000 --> 19:18.140 And whatever is animating the movement of the universe 19:19.680 --> 19:23.380 is animating every movement within us. 19:26.340 --> 19:36.120 And so it's really important to look at that because our whole life 19:38.060 --> 19:41.960 has been, you know, people at the beginning of our life barrier. 19:42.360 --> 19:44.380 What are you going to be when you grow up? 19:45.680 --> 19:52.040 Well, a kid doesn't know that they're just going to be a bigger version of who they are. 19:53.360 --> 19:56.260 A larger version, a taller version. 19:57.500 --> 20:02.700 Oh, I want to be a fireman or I want to be the president or whatever it is. 20:03.580 --> 20:15.500 And our natures are different because our reason for being is different. 20:20.140 --> 20:31.020 Anyone could practice playing the piano and their fingers would become more efficient. 20:35.980 --> 20:40.080 But Ian is at very high levels. 20:42.360 --> 20:48.400 That's in their blood. It's in their spirit. It's in there. 20:49.720 --> 21:02.380 They're made for it. I frequently meet someone and sometimes what catches my eye are their hands. 21:03.300 --> 21:12.620 And I notice that pianists and artists, they have different hands than people that are, 21:12.740 --> 21:24.140 you know, maybe athletes and doing something else. And we're all just different kinds of trees. 21:25.520 --> 21:33.300 And, you know, when you go out in the, in the forest, sometimes you see trees that are very tall 21:33.300 --> 21:42.060 and thin and others that are much shorter and much broader. Some of them like palm trees, 21:42.620 --> 21:53.500 they sway in the wind. No problem. Others are stiffer. And when a wind comes, they can crack. 21:55.040 --> 22:07.000 Some create shade, which is a source of protection. Some create fruit, nourishment. 22:07.680 --> 22:16.720 Some create the essence because of flowers. Some have thorns and you can't get too close to them. 22:18.820 --> 22:26.100 And if you begin to look at the plant kingdom or even the animal kingdom, 22:26.800 --> 22:34.200 you'll see that every variety is similar to a lot of what we experience in our own life. 22:35.570 --> 22:42.960 We're not all designed to be identical or to, you know, 22:42.960 --> 22:51.360 not everybody is going to be whatever they want. So 22:54.860 --> 22:59.720 I think common sense is such an important part of life. 23:01.440 --> 23:08.020 Indeed, indeed. And then, so how are you able to relate the economy and the efficiency 23:09.260 --> 23:15.800 back to, I'm, I'm guessing where you were headed is around, you know, in India when I studied, 23:15.920 --> 23:23.600 they would talk about doership. So you always feel like, oh, I just helped that person. I did it. 23:23.600 --> 23:32.920 Or, oh, I just got into trouble. I did it. And so then it creates this sort of an interloper in 23:32.920 --> 23:40.160 what otherwise what you're saying just comes straight from its source with no effort of any kind. 23:44.620 --> 23:47.600 Right. A lot has to do 23:51.220 --> 23:57.420 with one's awareness of their essence. You see, 23:58.520 --> 24:01.500 when we emerged out of our mothers, 24:05.100 --> 24:18.480 we had no awareness of sexuality. We had no awareness of gender identity. We had no awareness 24:18.480 --> 24:27.140 of skin coloration, religiosity. We had no preferences that we were aware of. 24:31.060 --> 24:43.660 We were not aware of us. And this is why an infant has no awareness that its mother 24:44.460 --> 24:53.600 or father is something external to themselves. They, 24:56.200 --> 25:08.620 they're born in oceanic bliss. And in a state of oneness, it's undifferentiated. 25:09.800 --> 25:24.940 It's not this or that. It's just is-ness. And the response that comes forth, it is always appropriate. 25:27.120 --> 25:35.740 If the infant is hungry, a sound lets you know that or a tear or a something. 25:35.740 --> 25:43.200 If an infant is frightened, a different kind of sound lets you know that. 25:46.220 --> 25:56.400 Mothers at night often wake up just exactly when their infants need them. And 25:59.740 --> 26:02.860 so the doership, 26:09.800 --> 26:13.140 my senses has to do with the 26:16.320 --> 26:26.180 the illusion that is created by the persona that is conditioned. 26:27.640 --> 26:34.760 And so here we come in. Obviously, we have a nature. There's certain aspects in there that will 26:34.760 --> 26:48.940 evolve. But it isn't until the doctor or nurse or midwife, the first thing they do is they notice 26:48.940 --> 26:58.660 whether the infant's body is expanding and contracting, which we call breathing. 27:01.060 --> 27:09.200 Keep in mind, this infant a few moments before was in a pool of liquid. 27:10.960 --> 27:17.380 And all of a sudden, it's gone from a warm dark liquid environment 27:18.460 --> 27:26.620 into a cold, brightly lit, totally different environment. And something begins 27:26.620 --> 27:38.380 breathing it seamlessly. And once they see that that's happening, the eyes immediately 27:38.380 --> 27:46.120 go down to the genital area and then they pronounce, it's a girl. Now, 27:49.780 --> 27:54.200 in today's world, people want to know. 27:56.620 --> 28:05.040 But the sex of the baby is before they arrive. Why? Oh, we want to make sure that we paint the room 28:05.040 --> 28:13.360 yellow instead of lavender. We want to know, you know, what the drapes are going to be like 28:13.360 --> 28:19.500 if it's a boy versus a girl or what kind of clothing we're going to give them or what name 28:19.500 --> 28:24.480 we're going to name them. And so the preparation 28:28.920 --> 28:33.740 is based on the idea that we're going to know exactly what they need because 28:35.100 --> 28:42.400 some tests is, oh, they have this type of genital or this type. And 28:44.960 --> 28:56.680 so the conditioning begins even before you arrive. And if you're called a boy versus a girl, 28:58.080 --> 29:07.200 your whole life is already set up in relation to that, even if you don't fit that. 29:08.280 --> 29:13.700 You know, we say, oh, life is not black and white. It's just a bunch of shades of gray. 29:14.680 --> 29:20.260 But everything is handled as if it's black and white on some level. And 29:23.940 --> 29:31.740 and then we toilet train kids. Now, most people don't realize this, but 29:32.280 --> 29:39.880 if you never toilet trained a child, the child will model what its parents are doing and will 29:39.880 --> 29:51.420 toilet train itself. But we feel by a certain time we have to do that. And so when we hear certain 29:51.420 --> 29:57.880 noises and we send something is going on digestively, you know, we might pick up the child 29:57.880 --> 30:02.160 and run toward the bathroom. Now, hold on just a second, hold on, 30:04.000 --> 30:12.960 which is conditioning the child to hold something that's actually ready to be released. 30:16.140 --> 30:22.400 Or as the child gets older, mom or dad says, now go to go to the bathroom because we're 30:22.400 --> 30:29.040 going to be able to stop once your dad starts driving. So now you have to make something happen 30:29.040 --> 30:36.740 that isn't ready to happen. And if you look at our life, so much of that, so much of it 30:37.500 --> 30:41.360 is either trying to make something happen that isn't quite ready. 30:42.780 --> 30:49.120 Or trying to stop something from happening that is ready. And so 30:50.940 --> 31:03.920 we live in a mind field. And what got us into this discussion is about economy and so on. 31:04.620 --> 31:14.240 And I shared with you, I do my best work in the streets in not knowing. And the only thing that's 31:14.240 --> 31:25.580 different is that I am aware that there's something, I don't know where it resides, 31:26.340 --> 31:33.160 but there is something that is aware of everything that's happening inside of me. 31:34.240 --> 31:42.980 You know, there's something that I'm aware of the chair, the sensations 31:46.020 --> 31:54.460 under my thighs and on my back. I'm aware of all of that. I'm aware of you. 31:55.600 --> 32:04.160 You're aware of me. I'm aware of this giant four by eight foot window behind my monitor. 32:06.300 --> 32:14.260 There's all kinds of sensations going on. I'm aware words are coming out of my mouth, 32:14.340 --> 32:18.280 although I have no awareness where they're coming from or why. 32:20.360 --> 32:30.180 Every so often, I sense the mind saying something. Something is aware of that. 32:32.860 --> 32:41.500 What's profound about that is we've been led to believe that we are the mind. Oh, it's my mind. 32:41.500 --> 32:54.580 I don't mind it. I can change my mind. But in actuality, the reason we are aware of this function 32:54.580 --> 33:06.140 called mind, which is really a translation unit, is because something is always observing it, 33:06.700 --> 33:29.680 witnessing it, aware of it. In order to survive, an organism must be able to know 33:31.300 --> 33:36.060 what is occurring or what will occur before it actually occurs. 33:41.040 --> 33:48.280 When we get a flash about something, we say, oh, I just got this intuitive hit, 33:48.480 --> 33:52.340 which we later say, look what I thought of. 33:55.680 --> 34:03.480 When someone says, well, what is that intuitive? Well, it's a feeling. I just sensed it. 34:03.480 --> 34:12.000 Now, when I went to school, in elementary school, my teachers would often say 34:15.880 --> 34:24.180 your first feeling is always correct. Not 95% correct is always correct. 34:24.740 --> 34:37.180 And if they noticed that someone seemed to naturally be living from that space, 34:38.180 --> 34:48.800 they would say Jackie knows it by heart. Now, as a kid, I thought, oh, they memorized it. 34:50.000 --> 34:53.540 No, no, no. Knowing by heart 34:55.540 --> 35:04.040 is knowing at a totally, totally different level. So let's talk about this intuition 35:04.040 --> 35:08.660 just a second because you talked about the vision behind the vision. 35:11.060 --> 35:16.600 Most eye doctors, if you speak with them and you said, tell me a little bit about 35:16.600 --> 35:23.380 the retina of the eye, which is the photosensitive layer in the back. And they'll say, well, 35:23.580 --> 35:30.880 it's primarily made up of two types of cells, one that sees better at night, 35:31.020 --> 35:36.960 one that sees better during the day, and one that sees colors, and one that doesn't, and so on. 35:38.860 --> 35:43.800 And what they're unaware of, and so we'll never share with you, 35:44.600 --> 35:52.860 is that 95% of the photosensitive cells on the retina are called rods, 35:53.520 --> 36:01.540 and rods are very active at night in low light levels. Why? 36:01.540 --> 36:14.180 Why? Because they are incredibly sensitive. They pick up stuff before you see it, 36:15.060 --> 36:23.860 before on some level, you even imagine that it's there. Now, let me tell you how sensitive they are. 36:25.020 --> 36:30.620 When we speak about light and a physicist, and you say, well, what is light made of? 36:30.620 --> 36:36.820 Light is just energy. They say, well, it's made up of packets of energy called photons. 36:38.080 --> 36:52.260 Now, photons are not material. Photons are formless. It's just energy. 36:55.000 --> 37:08.160 The rods of the eyes are so sensitive that they can detect and respond to a single photon. 37:09.820 --> 37:19.360 Now, there isn't any other kind of cell in the body, and there is no technology 37:19.360 --> 37:24.720 developed in the world that can detect a single photon. 37:27.920 --> 37:37.840 If we have that, what does that mean? It means that by design, most of our vision 37:39.810 --> 37:45.880 has the ability to detect and respond to the invisible. 37:49.360 --> 37:56.300 Then you say, well, where does choice take place? The system is choiceless. 37:57.700 --> 38:08.560 It detects at a level that is so subtle that it's making sure that we survive. 38:12.580 --> 38:20.180 That's called intuition, something that most of us think is just some sort of 38:20.720 --> 38:34.440 philosophical something. It isn't. Our bodies are continually adjusting themselves very gradually 38:35.220 --> 38:44.940 to what is coming so that in each moment, we are totally there. 38:46.140 --> 38:53.500 Now, we call that presence. Again, we think, oh, you need to be more, you need to do this, 38:53.620 --> 39:03.220 to be more. What I'm sharing is our natural makeup is continually bringing us 39:03.220 --> 39:08.000 into a state of oneness with the cosmos. Why? 39:09.920 --> 39:19.960 So that life can move us in the miraculous way that it moves everything else that we think we 39:19.960 --> 39:25.880 can explain, but we keep learning each year that our explanation wasn't quite right. 39:28.500 --> 39:35.020 That's the beauty of living over time is that all of those answers, I'll say in quotations 39:35.020 --> 39:42.220 for anyone just listening, they're not answers at all. There's sand that flows right through 39:42.220 --> 39:53.500 the hands. There is literally nothing there. Even science, and science is a beautiful gift, 39:55.160 --> 40:03.280 but science isn't made up of facts, even though most people think it is. It's made up of theories. 40:06.160 --> 40:10.420 Theories and science make sure that they are 40:12.620 --> 40:20.260 as accurate as we can get in the moment, but it's a theory. Another word for theory 40:20.260 --> 40:35.020 is hypothesis, concept, idea, belief. All those words mean something similar. 40:36.560 --> 40:45.260 You know, what word means the opposite of theory or belief? Truth. 40:48.740 --> 40:53.600 So we talk about beliefs and changing beliefs and all that. 40:55.600 --> 41:00.660 Beliefs are transitory undulations of life. 41:02.960 --> 41:06.760 They're not truths. Truths, 41:09.520 --> 41:22.220 they're always there. And for me, I love not knowing. 41:28.460 --> 41:29.920 It's sort of like 41:35.880 --> 41:44.740 if there's just a lot of space when this space isn't filled and 41:48.760 --> 41:50.780 people have no idea 41:55.180 --> 42:01.020 often what it is I'm referring to, because I've spoken in public a lot, 42:01.920 --> 42:06.880 and sometimes the person that's going to interview me starts talking to me before and says, 42:07.040 --> 42:13.080 what are you going to talk about tonight? I said, I don't have the slightest idea. 42:15.560 --> 42:21.580 He said, what do you mean? This is your title. What are you going to talk about? 42:22.980 --> 42:27.600 I said, what do you talk about before you meet someone? 42:31.220 --> 42:34.800 Well, until I meet them, I don't know what we're going to talk about exactly. 42:35.840 --> 42:40.460 I said, well, how would I know until I meet the people coming this evening? 42:41.400 --> 42:46.180 So I frequently stand at the entrance to the building 42:49.320 --> 42:54.000 and notice that I say hello and connect with people as they come in. 42:57.240 --> 43:02.380 They have no idea who I am. I have no idea who they are, but 43:04.680 --> 43:12.120 something happens as they're coming in and I feel myself gently being moved 43:12.120 --> 43:15.600 in exactly the direction I need to go. 43:17.620 --> 43:28.320 And then it drives by itself. It's a self-driving vehicle. And it's only when it's driving 43:29.280 --> 43:38.620 driving by itself that you have the opportunity to experience the miraculousness 43:40.320 --> 43:46.600 of how we are designed and how different it is 43:47.260 --> 43:51.000 from most everything we've ever been taught or learned. 43:53.120 --> 43:57.860 Exactly. So that's such a good quote there. I love not knowing. 43:58.200 --> 44:05.400 You said no one except Jacob Lieberman, because it's the most terrifying thing ever 44:06.580 --> 44:12.880 that, like you said, if we've got our survival programming all active all the time, 44:12.880 --> 44:17.280 which is most of the people, and that's not a criticism or a takedown of any kind, 44:18.100 --> 44:22.460 then you're always trying to anticipate so that you could know, 44:22.680 --> 44:29.080 so that you could be safe and survive. And that all happens unconsciously. 44:29.420 --> 44:35.060 So most people's terror is not knowing. Could I share a short story with you on this exact 44:35.060 --> 44:35.820 subject? I'd love it. 44:36.060 --> 44:42.920 So this summer I had a series of accidents, and it was one after the other, I think five 44:42.920 --> 44:46.360 in total, and they left me handicapped for a time. 44:47.320 --> 44:53.100 Literally lost use of my hands, even through my back out. My body was just like it was kind of over. 44:54.220 --> 44:58.720 And I did a lot of work, and I healed from that, and I came a long way. 44:59.180 --> 45:06.180 And then I was left with this blank slate, and I had no idea how I was going to come back 45:06.180 --> 45:11.580 into my world again. And this is not a new experience. I have had this experience 45:11.580 --> 45:20.080 periodically throughout my life, some bigger than others. And I knew for a fact that if I got into 45:20.080 --> 45:25.800 doership and started whipping up some, oh, I could do, because I have no shortage of ideas. 45:26.640 --> 45:31.900 Those are backlogged for a lot of lifetimes already. I could just have pulled something out, 45:32.100 --> 45:37.820 thrown the spaghetti at the wall, see how it goes, just keep going. But I knew by now 45:37.820 --> 45:45.400 that I need that to come from an authentic place, not just this drive, okay, I have to go be somebody 45:45.400 --> 45:53.100 again and do something and earn a living and all of this kind of stuff. So instead of doing that, 45:53.440 --> 46:01.820 I went inside and I did the inner work. I released my fear of not knowing. 46:02.720 --> 46:10.100 I allowed my whole world to dissolve. If that was, you know, if it was the end of my body, 46:10.260 --> 46:18.000 of my work, of everything, I'd let myself completely die to all of that. And what's on the other side 46:18.000 --> 46:27.040 of it was enormous fire of inspiration. And the desire actually to, and this goes along 46:27.040 --> 46:33.440 with what you're saying, the desire to speak to the people in my community. So I started reaching 46:33.440 --> 46:41.460 out and I started having unscripted conversations and discovering where they were at. And because 46:41.460 --> 46:50.160 without that feedback, I couldn't read the field. The field is one, but all I knew was nothing 46:50.160 --> 46:57.300 at that point. And so out of those organic conversations, all of this creative energy 46:57.300 --> 47:03.260 started flowing through me. And it's exactly like you say, I can't sit back and say I did that. 47:03.720 --> 47:08.900 It's just literally pouring out of me and taking form and shape. 47:09.800 --> 47:11.760 And you're much younger now. 47:12.500 --> 47:17.340 Right. Thank you. I feel that, actually. I do. 47:17.620 --> 47:21.580 Oh, it's more than a feeling. It's so obvious. 47:26.640 --> 47:38.540 Literally, our biological age or the process of aging is now replaced by saging. 47:38.540 --> 47:47.480 And there's a very different impact. It's not one of deterioration. It's one of enlightenment 47:47.480 --> 48:01.280 and enlivenment. It's just moving us in ways that are so difficult to speak about this, Beth, you know, 48:04.660 --> 48:17.020 we were trained to read because, and when I was a kid, because you had to read to learn. Now, 48:20.200 --> 48:30.180 reading only confirms what you already know. If you don't know it already, you won't see it. 48:30.860 --> 48:32.860 On the page. Right. 48:36.860 --> 48:46.460 Reading is not the way one learns. One learns through movement. Nice. 48:48.420 --> 48:55.040 So if an infant, the reason creeping and crawling and all these things are so important 48:55.490 --> 49:03.420 to the development of a child is that all of the connections in their body 49:05.010 --> 49:10.380 with movement is what provides our sense of knowing. 49:13.040 --> 49:16.860 And it's a knowing by heart. 49:22.560 --> 49:32.340 So we've been trained that you've got to read and that the real facts of life are done by scientific 49:32.340 --> 49:40.060 studies and gold standard studies that appear reviewed evidence based all this terminology. 49:40.700 --> 49:49.420 That's one way in which one searches for truth. 49:51.420 --> 49:56.940 There's another way that precedes it is fully natural. 49:58.340 --> 50:05.540 And actually what always tells the scientists where to look next. 50:06.100 --> 50:13.920 And that is direct experience. The mystic 50:15.760 --> 50:26.840 doesn't know because he read a book or he did a study. The knowing which is not personal 50:30.840 --> 50:34.700 comes from all of a sudden finding yourself there. 50:36.540 --> 50:37.280 Exactly. 50:38.020 --> 50:56.620 And what's fascinating for me as someone who has had the pleasure of speaking in front of a 50:58.300 --> 51:07.240 child is you get an opportunity to have a direct experience of something we call genius. 51:10.670 --> 51:16.680 Which we think, oh, that's Einstein or that's somebody with a lot of degrees. Oh, 51:16.680 --> 51:25.320 they're a genius. But the word genius, the original meaning is guiding spirit. 51:27.160 --> 51:34.260 It is what comes through when the mind is empty. 51:37.420 --> 51:50.260 So not knowing is the opportunity to discover directly that something is moving us. Something 51:50.260 --> 51:58.620 is speaking us. Something all of a sudden comes to us while we're having dinner in a restaurant 51:58.620 --> 52:05.620 and we're scratching notes on a napkin because it's like, oh my God, where did this come from? 52:05.740 --> 52:09.360 And then of course the next day we say, well, let me tell you what I thought of. 52:10.780 --> 52:22.880 No, no, we didn't think it up. Inspiration comes to us. It is from that guiding spirit 52:23.630 --> 52:30.160 and that is what directs us in one direction or another 52:32.180 --> 52:41.700 and then starts moving. And that's part of our reason for being, part of what we are here to share. 52:43.780 --> 52:55.360 And I like experimenting. What does that mean? There's an inquisitiveness 52:56.520 --> 53:04.680 without any sense of where it's going or what's going to come from it. It's just an inquisitiveness, 53:04.680 --> 53:14.840 something natural. And as you can see, we could talk about these things forever and ever and ever. 53:16.680 --> 53:27.560 Isn't it fascinating how it really is beyond words? It's different, but because of our one field 53:28.190 --> 53:32.280 and our shared experience, which is not quite the right word either, 53:32.900 --> 53:40.000 then we could talk about this all day and every day and never get tired of it. 53:40.620 --> 53:46.640 And we'd actually never get to it either. Give you an example. 53:50.360 --> 53:55.360 You go to an Italian restaurant and you're looking at the menu 53:56.440 --> 53:58.180 and you see pizza. 54:01.740 --> 54:12.480 And you think that that pizza is a pizza, but you know, it doesn't have a damn thing to do 54:13.320 --> 54:23.260 with that 12-inch, crispy, incredibly smelling something they bring to the table. 54:23.260 --> 54:32.900 And then when you bite into it, you realize that there's no word in the world that can 54:32.900 --> 54:38.540 describe what you just had. Or you connect with someone. 54:42.740 --> 54:48.600 All of a sudden, each of you disappear and all there is is one something. 54:50.660 --> 55:02.640 And we call it falling in love or words can in no way capture what's essential. 55:04.140 --> 55:11.880 And we use words. We came up with them because the language center of the brain, 55:12.040 --> 55:17.560 it's called Broca's region or Broca's area of the left hemisphere, 55:19.500 --> 55:29.420 that's that voice we hear inside all the time. And it's attempting to describe something 55:30.620 --> 55:33.020 it's never actually experienced. 55:37.200 --> 55:46.680 The direct experience is profound. And I remember I was giving a talk somewhere once 55:46.680 --> 55:53.940 and I shared something about a experience I had in the 70s where my vision opened up 55:54.980 --> 55:58.800 and they said, oh, you had an out of body experience. I know what that is. 56:01.000 --> 56:03.200 And it was sort of shocking to me 56:05.500 --> 56:09.820 that they put a name on it and they know what that is. 56:11.640 --> 56:19.860 Whatever they know might be very significant for them, but has absolutely nothing to do with whatever I 56:19.860 --> 56:31.760 experienced. And I guess the essence of what I'm attempting to share is we spend a lot of 56:31.760 --> 56:38.180 time talking about these things, reading about these things. And we think it's the same thing. 56:42.540 --> 56:52.580 As the direct experience and I have I find that they it's almost nothing in common. 56:55.740 --> 57:03.380 There's something about coming from that place inside that occurs effortlessly. 57:05.700 --> 57:12.940 And I can't imagine we could write books about it, but never actually touch it because 57:12.940 --> 57:24.220 I don't know how to speak about it. I hope people can hear what I can't say because 57:26.340 --> 57:31.160 you hope that something is being shared. And I think what's being shared 57:32.440 --> 57:42.360 is our vulnerability, our sweetness, our authentic nature. 57:45.360 --> 57:50.160 That's so beautiful. Another great quote. I hope people can hear what I can't say. 57:51.140 --> 57:57.400 And I was noticing as you're talking how it's true, words have literally nothing in common 57:57.400 --> 58:04.940 with what they are referring to. And the more you know that, the more freely the words come, 58:05.700 --> 58:14.040 I notice. And then they have medicinal value. When the words come by themselves, 58:17.060 --> 58:21.260 they carry something that has medicinal value. It can 58:22.040 --> 58:27.740 touch the cells in our being and transform something. 58:31.300 --> 58:39.960 Boy, even though words can't do it, I'm loving this conversation we're having. 58:40.660 --> 58:44.580 Me too. So, so much. I knew it was going to be a real treat. 58:46.780 --> 58:55.080 The vulnerability, the sweetness, that really is the authentic nature. Like you said earlier, how 58:55.950 --> 59:03.980 we adopted personas, versions of ourselves that maybe we thought were necessary or asked of us, 59:04.180 --> 59:12.800 or we decided, oh, I'll get more love if I'm like this, or I'll be safer if I get that, 59:12.800 --> 59:17.220 or if I'm like that. And that's the jail. 59:20.180 --> 59:29.800 We're a bundle of conditioned reflexes that are reflexively responding in a way 59:30.920 --> 59:40.500 that we hope will be appreciated, accepted, liked, come up with the right answer. 59:40.500 --> 59:51.800 There's so many places where this shows up, and authenticity 59:55.620 --> 01:00:01.440 is what is captured in the original work of an artist. 01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:12.160 Now, most of our world is not made up of original work. 01:00:14.100 --> 01:00:24.020 Most of it is, oh, I'd like a signed lithograph. I'd like a chiclet. Can I get a CD? 01:00:29.040 --> 01:00:35.480 Those reproductions, even though they sound and look just like the original. 01:00:41.720 --> 01:00:50.320 One is a robot, and the other is something delicious that you like to hug. 01:00:52.160 --> 01:00:58.440 That's definitely different. Yeah, and so authenticity 01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:12.180 is a miraculous moment where creation comes through in its first 01:01:14.640 --> 01:01:22.860 manifestation, if you want to call it. It comes literally from nothingness, something erupts. 01:01:24.470 --> 01:01:25.960 And you say, oh my god. 01:01:29.020 --> 01:01:39.320 And we cannot make it that way. It must occur by itself. 01:01:41.340 --> 01:01:48.580 Exactly. Because the more you try to make it, the more layers you're putting in between you 01:01:48.580 --> 01:02:00.580 and that birthing from nothing. Yeah, and it's, and I would share with our listeners, please 01:02:01.940 --> 01:02:11.420 don't believe a word I'm saying. But if something inside of you seems to feel a little excited, 01:02:13.380 --> 01:02:27.820 do an experiment and see what occurs next time what you call a thought comes up, 01:02:30.780 --> 01:02:39.360 and you're aware of it. Close your eyes for a second and just allow that in. 01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:49.020 My whole life, I thought I was the thoughts that I called mine, because it's my mind. 01:02:49.980 --> 01:03:00.980 Well, what if it's not my mind? What if it's the mind that is the archives of everything 01:03:01.780 --> 01:03:18.190 that has preceded us? What if that mind that there's something within us that is aware of it? 01:03:18.750 --> 01:03:23.690 That's why we are aware when the chatter is happening. 01:03:24.590 --> 01:03:32.690 We're not the chatter that we're aware of any more than we are the television program 01:03:33.210 --> 01:03:36.130 that we are watching from the couch. 01:03:38.790 --> 01:03:51.230 Those moments are really profound. When we notice them, allow ourselves to be impacted by, oh my god, 01:03:51.230 --> 01:04:02.610 because that experience dissolves an idea 01:04:04.710 --> 01:04:13.050 that has no basis in fact. And it's so important 01:04:14.590 --> 01:04:21.930 to begin to notice because awareness is curative. 01:04:25.650 --> 01:04:34.190 And that is where the brain is continually rewiring itself. 01:04:36.170 --> 01:04:45.910 The neuroplastic changes in the brain, we think, are related to playing the piano 20 minutes every day. 01:04:47.870 --> 01:04:57.030 Yes, you can get brain changes from repetition, but the moment you stop the repetition, 01:04:57.190 --> 01:05:02.750 they start going the other way. So if you don't go to the gym anymore, your biceps will get smaller. 01:05:04.250 --> 01:05:15.330 That isn't real neuroplasticity to me. I like change that happens without doing 01:05:15.330 --> 01:05:26.130 and remains and continually grows without doing. And that is what occurs with awareness. 01:05:28.810 --> 01:05:34.190 The seeing mechanism, which is way beyond the eyes, 01:05:37.450 --> 01:05:39.450 has an awareness of something. 01:05:42.050 --> 01:05:48.810 And when that awareness occurs, it can change everything. 01:05:49.770 --> 01:06:01.450 It's incredibly profound. And you know, being a survivor, 01:06:04.830 --> 01:06:13.890 you know that you had many awarenesses that people try to get by going to a workshop. 01:06:14.790 --> 01:06:19.810 Not that there's anything wrong with the workshop, but as the expression goes, 01:06:19.850 --> 01:06:25.810 there's nothing like the real thing, baby. And so it's only when you're in it 01:06:28.730 --> 01:06:35.730 that these awarenesses come that are revelations. And with that, 01:06:36.910 --> 01:06:45.830 the body can sometimes transform something in ways we can't even begin to imagine. 01:06:49.630 --> 01:06:59.950 And you know, we call them spontaneous remissions, but my sense is that these spontaneous remissions, 01:06:59.950 --> 01:07:11.290 which are a new level of creation occur not when the mind is in first gear or second gear or third 01:07:11.290 --> 01:07:16.430 gear or fourth gear, but is in that space in between the gears. 01:07:20.010 --> 01:07:26.030 In that other level of awareness of that, which is noticing mind, 01:07:27.870 --> 01:07:29.970 profound things can happen then. 01:07:32.310 --> 01:07:39.010 That's beautiful. One of the most important things that I picked up from you early on was 01:07:39.790 --> 01:07:44.870 it's in your book, Luminous Life. And I think you said it as well. And you've been pointing 01:07:44.870 --> 01:07:51.050 towards it the whole time is that there are things in your life on a regular ongoing basis 01:07:51.050 --> 01:07:57.750 that are trying to capture your attention, whether that's a young child who needs breakfast or 01:07:57.750 --> 01:08:07.210 somebody you're working for your own stomach or some interruption or bad news or something like that. 01:08:07.270 --> 01:08:09.090 Being guided all the time. 01:08:09.550 --> 01:08:16.930 Right, exactly. And the tendency is that we block that need to capture and we're like, 01:08:16.930 --> 01:08:25.910 no, not now. I need to focus. Get away from me. Resistance. Oh, don't feel that. Or I can put that 01:08:25.910 --> 01:08:35.370 off. And your method is really reversing the flow, which is exactly what I found to work in the real 01:08:35.370 --> 01:08:43.330 world because the idea is not the thing that we're talking about. And so I've spent a lot 01:08:43.330 --> 01:08:50.810 more time allowing things to fully capture my attention since I've met you and always to the 01:08:50.810 --> 01:08:58.670 most beautiful end. I never regret, oh, why did I give that extra attention to somebody who needed 01:08:58.670 --> 01:09:05.390 my help or whatever it was. It's always so beautiful. And speak about how it guides you 01:09:05.390 --> 01:09:20.160 if that's what you were going to do. It was something that was brewing and 01:09:23.060 --> 01:09:25.840 something just became empty. 01:09:28.900 --> 01:09:30.580 That's okay. I blew your mind. 01:09:31.580 --> 01:09:38.260 Of course you did. There's no question about that. And you keep doing that. Shame on you. 01:09:38.480 --> 01:09:45.640 So when you began speaking about this last piece, do that beginning again. 01:09:46.420 --> 01:09:51.660 Right. That principle of how when things are trying to capture your attention. 01:09:52.060 --> 01:10:02.900 Ah, got it. Thank you. So you know, we have these expressions that we hear 01:10:03.660 --> 01:10:09.740 and we think, oh, that's somebody really came up with an interesting expression, 01:10:09.740 --> 01:10:14.900 but it's just an expression like it caught my eye. 01:10:19.120 --> 01:10:28.740 Now, most people think that the eyes are meant for looking. And so 01:10:33.460 --> 01:10:39.100 people make assumptions that you're looking for something, 01:10:40.570 --> 01:10:43.720 but that isn't actually the way it works at all. 01:10:47.350 --> 01:10:54.080 The eyes are continually moving because things are continually grabbing them. 01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:03.920 They're not looking for something. They're seeing what is looking for them. 01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:12.000 And it's not my method. You said, oh, that your method. 01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:23.680 What for me is impactful is when something occurs in my life 01:11:24.380 --> 01:11:31.380 and all of a sudden a revelation occur. Oh my God, it caught my eye. 01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:43.840 And because the eyes 95% of the retinal cells are designed to see the invisible, 01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:48.940 catching your eye doesn't mean your eyes have to be open. 01:11:50.260 --> 01:11:59.240 And your physical eyes. Many years ago, I was doing an event in Arizona, 01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:06.160 and I noticed one of the participants walked in 01:12:08.120 --> 01:12:14.860 and it was obvious that they had some sort of vision issue that was significant 01:12:15.360 --> 01:12:22.520 because they had one of those canes that usually indicate that there's some loss of vision. 01:12:23.820 --> 01:12:33.660 And I saw them and I immediately got up and asked them if I could take them by the arm 01:12:34.580 --> 01:12:39.020 and bring them to a chair. And so I sat them right next to me. 01:12:41.400 --> 01:12:48.800 They didn't know who I was and I had never met them before. 01:12:50.420 --> 01:12:56.580 And I was sharing about my work with light and color and so on. 01:12:57.280 --> 01:13:05.460 And this lady would be considered legally blind. 01:13:06.820 --> 01:13:13.600 Couldn't see, you know, was walking with a cane and so on. And she shared that she 01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:24.220 had left school because of the disability, but then as an adult decided to go back and get her degree. 01:13:26.580 --> 01:13:33.240 So a few months after that event, I get a letter from this lady. 01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:40.800 And her name means Angel. 01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:51.760 And she had been working with a color therapy device that I had developed. 01:13:55.260 --> 01:13:59.420 Even though her eyes couldn't perceive color. 01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:05.880 And she said some profound things are happening. 01:14:08.480 --> 01:14:17.020 And she says, let me share. Every day I walked the same route to class 01:14:17.980 --> 01:14:24.260 which I had to learn and then feel safe walking to get to class. 01:14:27.120 --> 01:14:38.480 And I have felt for a long time like I'm at a loss because I can't see what's going on. 01:14:40.780 --> 01:14:46.240 And the other morning I was walking on the path to class 01:14:48.750 --> 01:14:53.100 and all of a sudden something stopped me in my tracks. 01:14:55.410 --> 01:14:58.200 And I just stayed there. 01:15:00.120 --> 01:15:07.240 And all of a sudden I realized something I had never realized in my life. 01:15:08.480 --> 01:15:17.140 And she said, I noticed that all the trees and all the plants were looking at me. 01:15:21.090 --> 01:15:23.020 And it wasn't my imagination. 01:15:24.970 --> 01:15:28.640 They were totally aware of me. 01:15:30.150 --> 01:15:37.520 And all of a sudden I realized I don't need to be the one always looking 01:15:39.360 --> 01:15:42.940 life is continually also looking for me. 01:15:44.180 --> 01:15:46.600 And she said that was life changing. 01:15:53.020 --> 01:15:55.960 So this piece about 01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:02.660 what knocks on our doors looking for us. 01:16:06.420 --> 01:16:10.020 Life will find us no matter where we are. 01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:21.080 And it is very profound because when something catches the eye 01:16:21.970 --> 01:16:28.120 it reflexively involuntarily moves the eyes toward it. 01:16:29.040 --> 01:16:39.180 And depending on where it is it will then without any effort move the body so that the body is an alignment. 01:16:41.020 --> 01:16:49.100 And that connection which you and I are experiencing at this moment is called presence. 01:16:51.540 --> 01:16:57.320 And presence as my old friend Ram Dass would say is like baklava. 01:16:57.860 --> 01:17:03.960 It includes everything he said the phyllo dough, the honey, the nuts. 01:17:04.500 --> 01:17:10.460 And it even includes all those moments when you think you're not present. 01:17:12.180 --> 01:17:14.420 Presence is everything. 01:17:16.460 --> 01:17:28.460 So what's catching our eye is looking for us guiding us on the next step of our journey. 01:17:29.940 --> 01:17:30.900 So 01:17:35.480 --> 01:17:38.980 I see a dish in the sink. 01:17:40.160 --> 01:17:44.700 There's usually never a dish in the sink but I'm just making this up. 01:17:45.380 --> 01:17:47.080 A dish is in the sink. 01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:57.140 I clean it, I rinse it, I either put it on the dish drain or I dry it and I put it back. 01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:03.260 A bill comes, I take care of it. 01:18:06.040 --> 01:18:08.620 Nothing keeps getting put off. 01:18:11.020 --> 01:18:19.740 I got out of bed, let the bed air out a little bit and then you make the bed nicely. 01:18:21.040 --> 01:18:31.120 You respond to an email or you put in there unsubscribed if it's stuff that you don't want to 01:18:31.120 --> 01:18:38.340 receive and so something keeps grabbing our attention. 01:18:40.220 --> 01:18:46.260 Why? Why does it catch our eye in that moment? 01:18:48.180 --> 01:18:49.800 Oh it's just a coincidence. 01:18:50.480 --> 01:18:58.460 No, no, no, no, no, no coincidences in biology and in life. 01:19:00.980 --> 01:19:03.320 Timing is everything. 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:10.360 Every movement of our physiology is in a precise timing. 01:19:11.260 --> 01:19:15.400 Not, we couldn't make it precise enough by doing it. 01:19:15.740 --> 01:19:20.400 It's already designed at a level way beyond anything we can imagine 01:19:21.360 --> 01:19:24.100 because everything depends on it. 01:19:24.240 --> 01:19:34.440 Not only within the body, our biology, but the experience of life is the biology of the cosmos 01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:42.920 and that biology is animated by the same timing and so 01:19:44.100 --> 01:19:53.800 for me this piece about what's catching my eyes looking for me and guiding me is sacred. 01:19:55.480 --> 01:20:04.420 It's not just some good idea, it's something that has stayed with me since I first had that 01:20:04.420 --> 01:20:13.860 awareness when my children were very young and now they're very full grown adults. 01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.460 So it's been a very long time. 01:20:17.700 --> 01:20:28.980 I'm talking about 40-something years and it's remained with me and people say to me, 01:20:28.980 --> 01:20:35.160 well do you meditate and I said no but my life is my meditation. 01:20:36.180 --> 01:20:37.340 What do you mean? 01:20:38.360 --> 01:20:46.400 Well the practice of meditation is a beautiful practice that was part of my life at a certain point 01:20:47.660 --> 01:20:51.560 and each person must see what it is that moves them. 01:20:52.460 --> 01:21:05.020 I said right now what I notice is that for me what the practice of meditation allowed me to experience 01:21:06.420 --> 01:21:14.080 was that I was the observer, not the mind. 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.380 I was that which was aware of all of this 01:21:19.120 --> 01:21:26.800 and then what really inspired me was how about the other 23 hours and 40 minutes 01:21:29.280 --> 01:21:36.140 because I noticed I couldn't seem to maintain my meditative state after the meditation 01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:46.340 and so what this what's catching your eyes looking for you is literally what's 01:21:46.340 --> 01:21:57.260 catching your eyes your mantra and it's continually moving us whatever it is and I let it take me. 01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:07.800 And that's so much more fun than chasing a state because to me that's that's what 01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:14.900 happens with meditation is that you you reach some experience of bliss or happiness or whatever 01:22:14.900 --> 01:22:21.640 you call it and then you go oh there I am that's what I want and you spend the rest of your life 01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:28.860 trying to get that and the more you chase it the less you likely experience it it's almost 01:22:28.860 --> 01:22:38.020 like it literally pushes that away and what you're describing is more of generosity of spirit is 01:22:38.020 --> 01:22:43.840 always the phrase that comes to mind when when you allow yourself to generously include 01:22:43.840 --> 01:22:51.020 things in your awareness rather than deny them push them away say actually get away 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:58.360 and and you take it it's it's it is literally guiding you I in some ways I can't recommend 01:22:58.360 --> 01:23:04.420 my methods I feel because they're not methodical I do rely on this that the right thing comes to 01:23:04.420 --> 01:23:12.060 my attention at the right time and the accuracy of that can be staggering where it's just 01:23:12.060 --> 01:23:30.080 like once pain it's unbelievable and we can totally live without mind chatter 01:23:32.460 --> 01:23:36.600 that's what I hear most of the time 01:23:38.820 --> 01:23:46.460 but let me say it differently it is rare that I'm aware of any noise there 01:23:48.840 --> 01:24:03.090 and and that is our natural state that isn't something I came up with or I did or there's a way 01:24:03.090 --> 01:24:10.810 no no no no it is our natural state so you mentioned generosity 01:24:12.710 --> 01:24:13.570 generosity 01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:20.970 is one aspect of inclusivity 01:24:24.890 --> 01:24:27.550 in a life that is inclusive 01:24:31.910 --> 01:24:43.430 needn't be any mind that is making a demarcation this is okay this isn't there's something inside 01:24:43.430 --> 01:24:54.650 of us that does all of that at levels we can't even begin to imagine it's absolutely profound 01:24:56.040 --> 01:25:07.170 and it's taking care of itself all the time and I recently did a couple of podcasts with 01:25:07.170 --> 01:25:15.530 people in the financial world and I said why the hell are they contacting me I'm not a financial 01:25:15.530 --> 01:25:29.450 analyst and so on and um somewhere in the conversation something about philanthropy came up 01:25:31.350 --> 01:25:39.670 and I said you see when we think of philanthropy we think of some person who 01:25:40.890 --> 01:25:51.290 has a lot of assets making a financial donation to someone in need or some organization that needs 01:25:52.270 --> 01:26:00.490 some support and I said that's one aspect of philanthropy 01:26:03.850 --> 01:26:11.490 but if that's the definition there's only a very small percentage of philanthropists 01:26:13.430 --> 01:26:24.540 I said I like being a philanthropist of love that's open to everyone 01:26:26.940 --> 01:26:27.980 everyone 01:26:31.300 --> 01:26:43.320 their love is continually pouring out and when we allow that to be as it is 01:26:46.040 --> 01:26:51.620 it touches people in ways that money cannot 01:26:52.260 --> 01:27:04.840 it is so profound so very profound just seeing each other is miraculous 01:27:06.580 --> 01:27:17.880 not seeing each other as the other but seeing each other as a mere image reflection of ourselves 01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:27.020 and each of us have a different journey 01:27:29.540 --> 01:27:31.040 I don't know why 01:27:33.080 --> 01:27:41.660 you know there's so many these very quick expressions that we hear these days 01:27:43.660 --> 01:27:50.160 and some part of me wants when I hear them to say how do you know that 01:27:53.540 --> 01:28:00.680 you know from where from where in your direct experience did that come 01:28:02.480 --> 01:28:10.000 because that's what I really want to know what's what's the journey that took you there 01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:17.560 you know it doesn't make any difference to me if this person said it or this person said it 01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:24.060 perhaps they shared it because that was their direct experience 01:28:26.470 --> 01:28:33.200 but that doesn't naturally become my direct experience unless it does in some way and so 01:28:35.590 --> 01:28:41.660 yeah there's there's so much to this process of allowing 01:28:44.020 --> 01:28:50.500 that can truly awaken and you know people say to me 01:28:52.240 --> 01:29:00.780 well what do you do these days I said well you know other than interviews or talks I 01:29:00.780 --> 01:29:08.100 mentor a small group of people well what do you do well I'd include this this and this 01:29:08.100 --> 01:29:13.780 well what do you actually do for them are you like a coach I said no 01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:22.300 are you a therapist no I'm not a therapist I'm just a human being 01:29:26.500 --> 01:29:28.860 and at times in our life 01:29:30.860 --> 01:29:39.820 when we're in a place we've not been before and maybe feel a little jittery about that 01:29:40.680 --> 01:29:48.240 it would be nice if we could hold our parents hands or our close friends hands 01:29:49.180 --> 01:29:55.940 or our partners hands or our children's hands if we could just hold a hand for a little while 01:29:55.940 --> 01:30:00.100 so we don't feel all alone in there and I said 01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:04.880 the people that reach out to me 01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:12.520 it's just we found ourselves walking on the same path 01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:21.700 and enjoy the conversation and I said and I can't tell you exactly what happens 01:30:23.240 --> 01:30:25.820 but just connecting 01:30:28.500 --> 01:30:30.520 at an authentic level 01:30:33.220 --> 01:30:36.140 as I used to say when I used to train doctors 01:30:37.400 --> 01:30:44.720 don't work with anyone you don't love when when I 01:30:48.100 --> 01:30:55.940 when someone wants to work with me I also have to check in am I the best person 01:30:56.690 --> 01:31:00.260 or at least a good person for them to work with 01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:04.460 and I have to really look at that because 01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:10.060 you know each year we went through school we got different teachers 01:31:11.020 --> 01:31:16.740 each one specialized in whatever that was at that point in life and so 01:31:17.500 --> 01:31:20.120 these are the things that are important to me 01:31:20.780 --> 01:31:28.480 and because I find myself in my work really befriending 01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:33.520 this person and 01:31:36.160 --> 01:31:38.940 and I receive so much 01:31:40.060 --> 01:31:44.860 from that relationship one of my 01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:52.280 current clients is a 90 and a half year old incredibly wise woman 01:31:55.240 --> 01:32:00.360 and it's unbelievable the things she shares that really impact me 01:32:02.160 --> 01:32:02.820 because 01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:09.380 I've lost my parents and many of my closest friends 01:32:10.230 --> 01:32:14.500 and it's so nice to have an elderly sage 01:32:15.820 --> 01:32:20.040 that has walked the walk and learned a lot 01:32:20.780 --> 01:32:23.740 and I love to just be able to just be there 01:32:24.270 --> 01:32:28.180 with them for them and allow them to be there 01:32:28.180 --> 01:32:29.880 with me and for me 01:32:31.160 --> 01:32:34.280 that's beautiful I love that I have a similar thing 01:32:34.280 --> 01:32:38.740 and I teach this to when I train coaches and help people build services 01:32:39.740 --> 01:32:44.520 that they actually have to love their people that they're working for 01:32:45.220 --> 01:32:51.700 because otherwise it's not sustainable it's not it's not something that both people will be able to grow and feed on 01:32:51.700 --> 01:32:55.760 it's not enough for me to just earn money and work with someone I don't 01:32:56.360 --> 01:32:57.420 have affection for 01:32:58.040 --> 01:33:06.000 and like what you said very early on in the beginning that awareness is curative and and then it's the awareness with love 01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:07.480 that 01:33:08.160 --> 01:33:08.920 that cures 01:33:09.360 --> 01:33:14.420 and I've got a whole language and lexicon about that and I do I do teach in a lot of detail 01:33:15.020 --> 01:33:15.900 around how to 01:33:15.900 --> 01:33:19.860 deprogram this just my language for for this process but 01:33:20.500 --> 01:33:24.080 at the very end it's exactly the same that if you can reverse 01:33:24.740 --> 01:33:32.300 because otherwise we have a strong aversion to something or we have a strong attachment both of those are not love 01:33:33.140 --> 01:33:38.400 right that they disregard love it's trying to get the thing or put the thing away 01:33:39.340 --> 01:33:42.900 and but but when you come to just the pure awareness 01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:44.780 from a loving place 01:33:46.180 --> 01:33:48.580 then that that really is 01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:50.720 the cure 01:33:51.420 --> 01:33:52.200 and and the last 01:33:52.200 --> 01:33:54.740 mm-hmm pure awareness 01:33:55.820 --> 01:33:59.900 is naturally loving right exactly um 01:34:00.360 --> 01:34:02.380 I really appreciate you 01:34:03.140 --> 01:34:03.780 likewise 01:34:04.780 --> 01:34:06.420 yeah I um 01:34:08.120 --> 01:34:11.400 um what I am appreciating 01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:15.200 is the maturity 01:34:16.860 --> 01:34:20.540 that we are sharing with each other 01:34:22.200 --> 01:34:23.220 based on 01:34:24.630 --> 01:34:25.880 living life 01:34:26.950 --> 01:34:29.760 with all of its ups and downs 01:34:30.770 --> 01:34:32.000 all of its 01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:35.660 great moments all of its difficulties 01:34:38.210 --> 01:34:39.380 and here we are 01:34:40.750 --> 01:34:42.680 and um it's nice 01:34:44.010 --> 01:34:45.000 for me 01:34:45.950 --> 01:34:47.220 to meet someone 01:34:48.690 --> 01:34:50.760 who is doing not only 01:34:53.320 --> 01:34:55.480 sharing your love and wisdom 01:34:56.200 --> 01:34:57.960 in the way that you do 01:35:00.050 --> 01:35:02.560 but just having such a sense that 01:35:06.010 --> 01:35:09.160 there's a knowing that resides within you 01:35:10.200 --> 01:35:10.700 um 01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:14.400 and you're so inspired 01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:18.120 to share it because 01:35:18.120 --> 01:35:20.400 life wants you to share it 01:35:21.040 --> 01:35:25.840 and I just I don't know exactly what I'm saying right now but 01:35:26.400 --> 01:35:27.600 I appreciate you 01:35:28.400 --> 01:35:30.720 thank you Jacob that means so much to me 01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:31.800 that's beautiful 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:33.340 believe me it means 01:35:34.080 --> 01:35:35.720 to me as well 01:35:36.120 --> 01:35:37.800 mm-hmm how amazing 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:40.320 yeah it's this is 01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:41.620 this is the life that 01:35:42.400 --> 01:35:44.480 you know when I talk to people 01:35:44.480 --> 01:35:46.180 when I got out and um 01:35:46.180 --> 01:35:47.680 heard from them 01:35:48.480 --> 01:35:50.180 they said to me that 01:35:50.180 --> 01:35:51.640 given what's 01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:53.440 going on in the world 01:35:53.440 --> 01:35:55.500 what's happened to us especially 01:35:55.500 --> 01:35:57.160 in the last six years 01:35:57.560 --> 01:35:59.300 you know the increasing 01:35:59.300 --> 01:36:01.900 chaos the increasing absurdity 01:36:01.900 --> 01:36:03.900 the increasing encroachment 01:36:03.900 --> 01:36:05.300 on people's well-being 01:36:05.300 --> 01:36:06.120 not just 01:36:07.380 --> 01:36:08.980 you know it's this isn't light stuff 01:36:08.980 --> 01:36:10.940 that we're dealing with that they've found it 01:36:10.940 --> 01:36:12.580 more and more difficult to 01:36:12.580 --> 01:36:14.000 actually vision 01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.140 and to answer 01:36:16.140 --> 01:36:17.860 I always have this this my 01:36:17.860 --> 01:36:20.020 golden question I didn't create but 01:36:20.020 --> 01:36:22.360 came from one of my past teachers 01:36:22.360 --> 01:36:24.340 just to finish the sentence 01:36:24.340 --> 01:36:26.000 wouldn't it be nice if 01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:27.460 they couldn't do it 01:36:28.700 --> 01:36:30.120 because of the 01:36:30.120 --> 01:36:32.360 heaviness of what's going on 01:36:33.280 --> 01:36:34.420 as a 01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:38.540 there is um 01:36:38.540 --> 01:36:38.620 um 01:36:42.320 --> 01:36:44.740 so much divisiveness 01:36:46.820 --> 01:36:48.260 by design 01:36:48.260 --> 01:36:50.660 a lack of kindness 01:36:52.080 --> 01:36:53.840 just simple kindness 01:36:55.420 --> 01:36:56.500 and 01:36:58.360 --> 01:36:59.440 seeing 01:37:00.380 --> 01:37:00.920 meanness 01:37:02.340 --> 01:37:04.380 in a way that I've not 01:37:04.380 --> 01:37:05.620 seen it before 01:37:05.620 --> 01:37:07.700 you know I'm 01:37:07.700 --> 01:37:09.320 I'm working on 01:37:09.320 --> 01:37:10.220 a memoir 01:37:11.280 --> 01:37:13.640 yeah and 01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:18.440 I share 01:37:18.440 --> 01:37:21.440 an experience I had 01:37:21.440 --> 01:37:23.080 as a seven year old boy 01:37:23.620 --> 01:37:25.860 I don't know if you know this 01:37:25.860 --> 01:37:27.960 but I was born in Havana Cuba 01:37:28.180 --> 01:37:29.260 oh no 01:37:29.260 --> 01:37:31.760 my parents escaped 01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:33.080 Eastern Europe 01:37:33.080 --> 01:37:35.080 in the 1920s 01:37:35.740 --> 01:37:37.340 this is before Hitler 01:37:38.480 --> 01:37:39.120 and 01:37:39.120 --> 01:37:40.040 ended up 01:37:40.980 --> 01:37:42.320 escaping as children 01:37:43.940 --> 01:37:45.560 ending up in Cuba 01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:46.500 wow 01:37:47.420 --> 01:37:50.040 and my sister and I were born in Cuba 01:37:51.200 --> 01:37:53.160 and I came to the 01:37:53.160 --> 01:37:54.440 states when I was seven 01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:57.100 and a couple of months 01:37:57.100 --> 01:37:59.000 after we were here my father 01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:01.120 received some sort of a notification 01:38:01.120 --> 01:38:02.740 that we had to go 01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:05.440 to the American Embassy 01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:07.540 or something in downtown Miami 01:38:08.870 --> 01:38:09.760 so we went 01:38:10.790 --> 01:38:12.500 I was a seven year old kid 01:38:12.500 --> 01:38:14.000 I was wearing shorts 01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:17.480 a little shirt and little high top leather shoes 01:38:17.480 --> 01:38:19.340 that were common at that time 01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:21.980 and um 01:38:22.920 --> 01:38:25.100 I understood some English 01:38:26.760 --> 01:38:27.980 and I'm there 01:38:27.980 --> 01:38:30.440 and this man comes out 01:38:30.440 --> 01:38:31.140 of the office 01:38:31.980 --> 01:38:33.540 shakes my father's hands 01:38:33.540 --> 01:38:35.440 and they start talking about something 01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:39.380 somewhere in the process 01:38:39.380 --> 01:38:40.720 I just looked up 01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:42.860 and the man looked down 01:38:42.860 --> 01:38:43.860 at the same moment 01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:47.140 and he says 01:38:47.140 --> 01:38:48.220 your name 01:38:49.620 --> 01:38:50.740 and I said 01:38:50.740 --> 01:38:51.120 Jacob 01:38:53.100 --> 01:38:54.460 in Spanish 01:38:54.460 --> 01:38:54.880 but 01:38:56.960 --> 01:38:58.440 he maybe 01:38:58.440 --> 01:39:00.740 didn't know what the word was 01:39:00.740 --> 01:39:02.500 so he said 01:39:02.500 --> 01:39:04.140 boy or girl 01:39:05.440 --> 01:39:06.300 said 01:39:06.300 --> 01:39:06.820 boy 01:39:08.040 --> 01:39:09.500 how do you know 01:39:10.330 --> 01:39:12.040 I pulled down my shorts 01:39:13.440 --> 01:39:14.720 the whole 01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:16.340 place starts laughing 01:39:16.340 --> 01:39:17.180 like hell 01:39:18.040 --> 01:39:20.200 the man reaches his 01:39:20.200 --> 01:39:21.900 hand out to my father 01:39:21.900 --> 01:39:23.340 and says 01:39:23.340 --> 01:39:24.720 welcome to America 01:39:27.780 --> 01:39:30.140 why do I share this 01:39:30.140 --> 01:39:30.600 story 01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:32.560 yes it's cute 01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:34.520 the innocence of a little boy 01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:38.240 but the reason I shared it 01:39:38.240 --> 01:39:38.880 is 01:39:39.820 --> 01:39:41.880 that's the way I was welcomed 01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:42.820 into America 01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:45.280 with laughter 01:39:45.280 --> 01:39:46.980 love welcome to America 01:39:48.820 --> 01:39:49.200 and 01:39:49.580 --> 01:39:50.540 you were talking about 01:39:50.540 --> 01:39:52.640 what's happening in the world right now 01:39:52.640 --> 01:39:54.720 and the discomfort 01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:55.900 of things and 01:39:55.900 --> 01:39:58.300 one of them is the way 01:39:58.300 --> 01:39:59.820 we treat others 01:40:00.900 --> 01:40:02.760 who we say 01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:04.280 are different 01:40:05.320 --> 01:40:06.720 they're not different 01:40:06.720 --> 01:40:08.740 we're all the same 01:40:08.740 --> 01:40:09.740 on some level 01:40:09.740 --> 01:40:12.360 and so I 01:40:12.360 --> 01:40:13.640 shared that because 01:40:17.240 --> 01:40:18.040 wow 01:40:18.040 --> 01:40:20.760 how did we get here 01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:24.480 we're rather than 01:40:24.480 --> 01:40:25.860 welcoming people 01:40:25.860 --> 01:40:28.260 we're mean to them 01:40:28.260 --> 01:40:30.420 and we do things that are 01:40:31.300 --> 01:40:32.500 I don't know 01:40:32.500 --> 01:40:34.300 painful even to just 01:40:34.300 --> 01:40:35.540 mentally think of 01:40:36.380 --> 01:40:37.180 so 01:40:38.440 --> 01:40:40.500 while this is going on 01:40:42.360 --> 01:40:43.500 it allows 01:40:43.500 --> 01:40:45.300 us to see the importance 01:40:45.300 --> 01:40:47.480 of everything you and I have been 01:40:47.480 --> 01:40:48.900 sharing over the last 01:40:49.400 --> 01:40:50.820 hour and a half or so 01:40:54.400 --> 01:40:55.360 on a 01:40:55.360 --> 01:40:57.000 Instagram post 01:40:57.500 --> 01:40:59.720 that I recorded with my son 01:40:59.720 --> 01:41:00.600 who's visiting 01:41:02.260 --> 01:41:03.420 he was talking 01:41:03.420 --> 01:41:05.460 about it's no longer about 01:41:05.460 --> 01:41:06.640 you and me 01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:09.300 now it's about 01:41:09.300 --> 01:41:09.840 we 01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:12.200 right I saw that actually 01:41:12.200 --> 01:41:12.880 and 01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:15.720 it's like so 01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:17.820 important that we 01:41:17.820 --> 01:41:19.800 see each other 01:41:21.420 --> 01:41:24.100 you know and are not afraid to say 01:41:27.820 --> 01:41:30.420 I love what you're doing 01:41:30.420 --> 01:41:30.960 or 01:41:31.840 --> 01:41:33.640 it doesn't make any difference 01:41:33.640 --> 01:41:35.760 we've been so corralled 01:41:35.760 --> 01:41:36.820 into 01:41:39.840 --> 01:41:41.620 oh no you can't say that 01:41:41.620 --> 01:41:42.760 or you can't say it 01:41:42.760 --> 01:41:44.060 and it's like 01:41:46.060 --> 01:41:47.740 we must allow 01:41:47.740 --> 01:41:49.920 ourselves to be moved 01:41:49.920 --> 01:41:51.880 from that 01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:53.800 pure awareness which is 01:41:53.800 --> 01:41:55.360 pure unconditional 01:41:55.360 --> 01:41:56.320 love 01:41:58.060 --> 01:41:58.940 why 01:42:00.020 --> 01:42:01.960 because that goodness 01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:03.800 is the most 01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:05.820 contagious thing in the world 01:42:05.820 --> 01:42:07.840 and we 01:42:07.840 --> 01:42:09.080 really need 01:42:09.840 --> 01:42:11.620 to have it spread 01:42:11.620 --> 01:42:12.460 everywhere 01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:15.700 and this is something we 01:42:15.700 --> 01:42:16.620 want to spread 01:42:17.440 --> 01:42:18.800 without any masks 01:42:21.060 --> 01:42:21.900 indeed 01:42:21.900 --> 01:42:23.860 yeah that's really beautiful 01:42:23.860 --> 01:42:25.780 that it's an art 01:42:25.780 --> 01:42:26.560 to appreciate 01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:29.320 and you know the 01:42:29.320 --> 01:42:31.180 problem is that when you see 01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:33.080 somebody's beauty 01:42:33.080 --> 01:42:34.700 somebody's greatness somebody 01:42:34.700 --> 01:42:36.700 something that because of the 01:42:36.700 --> 01:42:38.200 persona that we've worn 01:42:38.200 --> 01:42:40.260 and we compare it against 01:42:40.920 --> 01:42:42.380 you know what we're seeing 01:42:42.380 --> 01:42:43.560 compared to who we 01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:45.800 think we are feel we are 01:42:46.480 --> 01:42:48.280 and then we don't match up 01:42:48.280 --> 01:42:50.480 or we're less than or it reminds 01:42:50.480 --> 01:42:52.240 us that there's work to do 01:42:52.240 --> 01:42:53.940 or something like that then 01:42:54.420 --> 01:42:56.460 we don't see people at all 01:42:56.460 --> 01:42:58.320 you know I watch this about myself 01:42:58.320 --> 01:43:00.060 that when they say something about themselves 01:43:00.700 --> 01:43:02.320 I'm always very ready 01:43:02.320 --> 01:43:03.940 to say something about myself 01:43:03.940 --> 01:43:06.120 and I'm learning to just 01:43:06.120 --> 01:43:08.420 stop and like take it in more 01:43:08.420 --> 01:43:10.020 and not 01:43:10.020 --> 01:43:12.680 turn the attention back to me 01:43:12.680 --> 01:43:14.160 in the process 01:43:14.160 --> 01:43:15.900 and you know just to expand 01:43:15.900 --> 01:43:18.340 and it's a 01:43:18.340 --> 01:43:19.300 cliche but there's 01:43:19.980 --> 01:43:22.240 always something to appreciate and then 01:43:22.240 --> 01:43:24.600 there's always something to depreciate 01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:25.140 as well 01:43:25.140 --> 01:43:28.080 that will result in division 01:43:28.080 --> 01:43:29.980 you know right now 01:43:29.980 --> 01:43:31.860 division is like 01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:33.720 the 01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:35.220 currency of 01:43:35.980 --> 01:43:37.280 dysfunction and 01:43:37.740 --> 01:43:39.520 you know if you want to call it evil in the world 01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:40.800 they love that stuff 01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:42.500 they love it when we're 01:43:42.500 --> 01:43:44.600 having our petty problems 01:43:44.600 --> 01:43:47.640 and you know getting into a 01:43:47.640 --> 01:43:48.260 and 01:43:48.260 --> 01:43:51.380 risking being 01:43:52.240 --> 01:43:53.940 ourselves which is really 01:43:53.940 --> 01:43:55.240 the not love 01:43:55.820 --> 01:43:56.180 part 01:43:56.180 --> 01:43:57.300 you know 01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:04.060 want to share with you a little bit 01:44:04.060 --> 01:44:05.940 you could call a day in the life 01:44:07.140 --> 01:44:08.280 this is something 01:44:08.280 --> 01:44:10.260 that occurred couple weeks 01:44:10.260 --> 01:44:10.660 ago 01:44:13.360 --> 01:44:15.000 most of this year 01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:16.620 I've been dealing 01:44:16.620 --> 01:44:18.360 with a pinched nerve in my 01:44:18.360 --> 01:44:19.440 neck that 01:44:20.120 --> 01:44:21.340 has caused 01:44:23.780 --> 01:44:24.420 the 01:44:24.420 --> 01:44:25.340 most excruciating 01:44:25.900 --> 01:44:27.420 pain you can imagine 01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:30.240 in my shoulder 01:44:31.620 --> 01:44:32.260 and 01:44:35.420 --> 01:44:37.380 one evening after dinner 01:44:38.040 --> 01:44:39.700 the pain started 01:44:39.700 --> 01:44:40.480 to come up 01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:45.180 and all of a sudden I had this feeling 01:44:45.180 --> 01:44:47.400 I wanted to take myself out for an 01:44:47.400 --> 01:44:48.180 ice cream cone 01:44:50.320 --> 01:44:50.920 so 01:44:50.920 --> 01:44:52.160 I said to my wife 01:44:52.160 --> 01:44:54.240 Deborah I'm going to go into 01:44:54.240 --> 01:44:56.140 paella which is a little town 01:44:56.140 --> 01:44:57.440 nine miles away 01:44:58.380 --> 01:45:00.040 that has a health food 01:45:00.040 --> 01:45:01.940 store and a little 01:45:01.940 --> 01:45:03.780 ice cream shop that has regular 01:45:03.780 --> 01:45:05.500 ice cream and also has 01:45:06.080 --> 01:45:07.840 non-dairy ice cream which was 01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:08.840 quite good 01:45:10.820 --> 01:45:12.240 so I rode down 01:45:12.240 --> 01:45:12.540 there 01:45:15.200 --> 01:45:16.620 I got an ice cream 01:45:16.620 --> 01:45:18.640 cone and I'm sitting on 01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:20.540 a bench on the sidewalk 01:45:20.540 --> 01:45:22.500 just in front of the window 01:45:22.500 --> 01:45:23.300 of the shop 01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:26.760 and I'm licking my ice cream 01:45:26.760 --> 01:45:27.120 cone 01:45:28.320 --> 01:45:30.680 and all of a sudden somebody walks 01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:31.960 by I see feet 01:45:32.560 --> 01:45:34.260 and then I see some little feet 01:45:34.260 --> 01:45:36.280 and I look up 01:45:37.380 --> 01:45:38.680 and it's a young 01:45:38.680 --> 01:45:40.600 woman maybe she's 33 01:45:40.600 --> 01:45:41.780 34 01:45:43.160 --> 01:45:44.980 caring who I assumed 01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:47.100 was her daughter 01:45:47.100 --> 01:45:48.620 who was maybe 01:45:48.620 --> 01:45:51.060 4 years old maybe 4 01:45:51.060 --> 01:45:51.600 and a half 01:45:52.200 --> 01:45:53.920 and out of my mouth comes 01:45:53.920 --> 01:45:54.560 hey 01:45:56.020 --> 01:45:58.260 and she turns around and I said 01:45:59.160 --> 01:46:00.960 would it be okay with you 01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:02.580 if I bought you and your daughter 01:46:02.580 --> 01:46:03.600 an ice cream cone 01:46:05.180 --> 01:46:06.720 and she looks at me like 01:46:06.720 --> 01:46:08.740 I'm crazy she says 01:46:08.740 --> 01:46:10.280 excuse me and they keep going 01:46:10.280 --> 01:46:11.260 across the street 01:46:12.800 --> 01:46:14.620 and then a few minutes later 01:46:14.620 --> 01:46:15.700 they come back 01:46:17.320 --> 01:46:18.080 and they 01:46:18.080 --> 01:46:19.480 sort of walk by 01:46:19.480 --> 01:46:20.640 and I said 01:46:21.260 --> 01:46:22.900 did you wonder why 01:46:23.780 --> 01:46:25.200 I wanted to buy 01:46:25.200 --> 01:46:27.060 you and your daughter an ice cream cone 01:46:28.300 --> 01:46:29.720 she nods her head 01:46:30.960 --> 01:46:32.360 I said I'm going to tell 01:46:32.360 --> 01:46:32.860 you why 01:46:34.340 --> 01:46:36.640 I said you're a wonderful mother 01:46:39.280 --> 01:46:40.620 she looks at me 01:46:40.620 --> 01:46:42.600 you know almost to say 01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:43.700 well how would you know 01:46:44.640 --> 01:46:45.720 and I said 01:46:46.440 --> 01:46:48.560 and I know from great moms 01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:50.900 I said I had a great mom 01:46:50.900 --> 01:46:52.400 and I said 01:46:52.400 --> 01:46:53.940 I am a great mom 01:46:57.060 --> 01:46:58.760 and it's the most 01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:00.800 difficult job in the world 01:47:01.780 --> 01:47:02.700 and also 01:47:02.700 --> 01:47:04.020 the most rewarding 01:47:06.340 --> 01:47:08.320 and I felt like I got the 01:47:08.320 --> 01:47:09.460 Nobel Prize 01:47:11.060 --> 01:47:12.400 when my daughter 01:47:12.400 --> 01:47:14.260 around the age of 4 01:47:14.260 --> 01:47:16.780 would frequently call me 01:47:16.780 --> 01:47:17.160 mommy 01:47:18.580 --> 01:47:21.040 and I felt like oh my god 01:47:21.040 --> 01:47:22.940 what's more important 01:47:22.940 --> 01:47:24.620 than being a wonderful mommy 01:47:24.620 --> 01:47:26.820 she called me mommy 01:47:26.820 --> 01:47:27.820 oh my god 01:47:27.820 --> 01:47:29.920 I thought I'd been blessed 01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:30.920 in every way 01:47:32.180 --> 01:47:33.660 and I said 01:47:34.680 --> 01:47:36.280 and when you walk by 01:47:36.280 --> 01:47:37.520 carrying your daughter 01:47:39.900 --> 01:47:42.100 I knew you were a wonderful mom 01:47:44.620 --> 01:47:46.440 and I wanted to thank you 01:47:49.440 --> 01:47:50.540 he said great 01:47:50.540 --> 01:47:51.680 we'll take the ice cream 01:47:52.540 --> 01:47:54.640 so I got them two cones 01:47:54.640 --> 01:47:56.580 of ice cream and they walked on 01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:00.520 and I sat and I finished 01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:02.540 my ice cream and then I got up 01:48:02.540 --> 01:48:03.920 and I walked to the right 01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:05.300 about 20 feet 01:48:05.760 --> 01:48:07.660 I was going to walk across the street 01:48:07.660 --> 01:48:08.880 to the health food store 01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:10.820 and there was a couple 01:48:12.260 --> 01:48:14.340 looking at the menu 01:48:14.340 --> 01:48:15.720 in the window 01:48:15.720 --> 01:48:17.320 of a little restaurant 01:48:18.700 --> 01:48:19.780 and I said 01:48:19.780 --> 01:48:22.180 the food in there is quite good 01:48:22.920 --> 01:48:24.260 I said and 01:48:24.260 --> 01:48:25.740 when you finish 01:48:25.740 --> 01:48:28.240 don't forget to go next door 01:48:28.240 --> 01:48:30.000 and get yourself an ice cream cone 01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:33.360 and the guy turns around 01:48:33.360 --> 01:48:34.080 he says why 01:48:34.740 --> 01:48:36.220 I said I just 01:48:36.220 --> 01:48:38.820 have a strong feeling that you deserve it 01:48:40.080 --> 01:48:41.600 and he smiled 01:48:43.360 --> 01:48:44.680 and all of a sudden 01:48:44.680 --> 01:48:46.260 a conversation ensues 01:48:48.780 --> 01:48:50.720 and within a couple seconds 01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:53.020 after he's asked me 01:48:53.020 --> 01:48:54.760 do I live there and so on 01:48:55.440 --> 01:48:57.420 he asks a question 01:48:58.140 --> 01:48:59.700 that sounds like 01:48:59.700 --> 01:49:01.440 he wants to know what side 01:49:01.440 --> 01:49:03.080 of the political spectrum 01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:04.720 I lean toward 01:49:06.280 --> 01:49:08.140 I heard his question 01:49:09.380 --> 01:49:11.620 and something responded 01:49:13.460 --> 01:49:15.460 but it didn't respond 01:49:15.460 --> 01:49:17.000 on either side 01:49:19.460 --> 01:49:22.020 it responded right down the middle 01:49:25.420 --> 01:49:27.560 he had sort of a odd 01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:28.680 look on his face 01:49:29.500 --> 01:49:31.280 and a few minutes later 01:49:31.280 --> 01:49:32.780 another question comes 01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:35.300 which was similar 01:49:35.300 --> 01:49:37.520 but different to the original question 01:49:39.400 --> 01:49:41.760 but the response was also 01:49:41.760 --> 01:49:43.520 different but also right down 01:49:43.520 --> 01:49:44.000 the middle 01:49:45.800 --> 01:49:47.340 and he says to me 01:49:47.340 --> 01:49:49.600 you know I don't think I've ever 01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:50.800 met anyone like you 01:49:53.420 --> 01:49:55.500 I said well if you stick around 01:49:55.500 --> 01:49:57.400 Maui you'll probably meet 01:49:57.400 --> 01:49:58.640 a lot of people like me 01:49:59.780 --> 01:50:01.380 and then we start talking 01:50:01.380 --> 01:50:03.640 and he says where did you get that hat 01:50:03.640 --> 01:50:06.140 and I was wearing a baseball cap 01:50:06.140 --> 01:50:07.700 that had the name 01:50:07.700 --> 01:50:09.820 Makawau which is a little town 01:50:09.820 --> 01:50:11.000 very near my home 01:50:11.500 --> 01:50:13.520 and it was a light blue color 01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:15.220 similar to my eyes 01:50:15.220 --> 01:50:17.620 and he says I love 01:50:17.620 --> 01:50:18.500 Makawau 01:50:18.500 --> 01:50:21.340 it's one of my favorite little areas of the island 01:50:21.340 --> 01:50:23.580 and I love that 01:50:23.580 --> 01:50:24.340 that blue color 01:50:24.340 --> 01:50:26.300 I said well that's great 01:50:26.300 --> 01:50:28.920 because I'm going to tell you exactly where I got it 01:50:29.560 --> 01:50:31.360 just go up there in the morning 01:50:31.360 --> 01:50:32.680 because they're closed now 01:50:33.300 --> 01:50:35.040 and you'll be able to find one 01:50:35.040 --> 01:50:36.180 they have a few more 01:50:36.180 --> 01:50:38.820 he says ah shucks 01:50:39.420 --> 01:50:41.220 I said what's the ah shucks about 01:50:41.220 --> 01:50:43.580 he said we're flying out 01:50:43.580 --> 01:50:44.740 early in the morning 01:50:44.740 --> 01:50:46.500 I said that's fantastic 01:50:47.580 --> 01:50:49.640 and he said what do you mean it's fantastic 01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:51.700 I won't be able to buy the hat 01:50:51.700 --> 01:50:53.180 I said you're right 01:50:53.700 --> 01:50:55.400 but it's going to allow me 01:50:55.400 --> 01:50:57.600 to have the pleasure of giving you mine 01:50:57.600 --> 01:50:59.340 see that one coming 01:51:01.820 --> 01:51:03.380 he said to me 01:51:05.440 --> 01:51:07.580 well I want to buy it from you 01:51:08.700 --> 01:51:10.760 I said I appreciate that 01:51:10.760 --> 01:51:13.020 but my hat is not for sale 01:51:15.420 --> 01:51:17.240 I want to give you something 01:51:18.180 --> 01:51:20.000 I said you already have 01:51:23.280 --> 01:51:24.820 let me give you $20 01:51:26.140 --> 01:51:27.680 I said thank you 01:51:27.680 --> 01:51:30.180 but I don't need the $20 01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:35.460 I want to have the full 01:51:35.460 --> 01:51:37.640 pleasure of giving you my hat 01:51:37.640 --> 01:51:39.880 so now that it's yours 01:51:41.840 --> 01:51:43.900 and then he keeps insisting 01:51:43.900 --> 01:51:45.620 he wants to give me $20 01:51:46.540 --> 01:51:47.800 and then he said look 01:51:47.800 --> 01:51:50.060 if you take this $20 01:51:50.860 --> 01:51:52.380 then tomorrow 01:51:53.280 --> 01:51:55.600 you can give someone else 01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:56.740 this $20 01:51:56.740 --> 01:51:59.340 and help someone else out 01:52:00.060 --> 01:52:01.880 I said you make 01:52:01.880 --> 01:52:03.180 a very good point 01:52:04.060 --> 01:52:04.620 however 01:52:05.980 --> 01:52:08.480 if I don't take the $20 01:52:08.480 --> 01:52:11.460 then tomorrow each of us 01:52:11.460 --> 01:52:13.220 will have our own $20 01:52:13.220 --> 01:52:16.140 that we can give to help someone else 01:52:17.180 --> 01:52:17.740 and 01:52:17.740 --> 01:52:19.400 we'll get double the impact 01:52:20.400 --> 01:52:21.620 and he said brother 01:52:21.620 --> 01:52:22.840 I don't know who you are 01:52:22.840 --> 01:52:23.900 but I love you 01:52:23.900 --> 01:52:25.820 and he grabs me in his arms 01:52:25.820 --> 01:52:28.580 he kisses me on top of the head 01:52:28.580 --> 01:52:32.340 and then the next morning 01:52:32.340 --> 01:52:34.400 I had the pleasure of buying myself 01:52:34.400 --> 01:52:35.840 another baseball cap 01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:37.060 at the same place 01:52:37.060 --> 01:52:39.420 and sharing with the owner 01:52:41.340 --> 01:52:42.700 how much happiness 01:52:42.700 --> 01:52:43.740 their hat brought 01:52:46.140 --> 01:52:46.820 and 01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:53.220 it was very sweet 01:52:53.220 --> 01:52:55.340 and all of a sudden 01:52:56.080 --> 01:52:58.280 as I'm walking out with my new 01:52:58.280 --> 01:52:58.700 cap 01:52:58.700 --> 01:53:01.400 a gentleman is staring there 01:53:04.480 --> 01:53:05.240 and 01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:08.880 I'd never seen him before 01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:09.940 and he had a cane 01:53:09.940 --> 01:53:11.320 and he said 01:53:12.140 --> 01:53:13.820 you're a very kind man 01:53:17.160 --> 01:53:17.800 now 01:53:18.840 --> 01:53:20.640 it wasn't anything about 01:53:20.640 --> 01:53:22.040 me being a kind man 01:53:22.040 --> 01:53:23.320 it was just like 01:53:24.120 --> 01:53:26.380 I felt like this was a series 01:53:26.380 --> 01:53:27.820 of dominoes 01:53:27.820 --> 01:53:29.900 that one had tipped 01:53:29.900 --> 01:53:30.700 and then 01:53:32.020 --> 01:53:33.900 was endlessly going 01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:36.520 with greater impact 01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:38.220 and you know we think we have to do 01:53:38.220 --> 01:53:40.400 all this big stuff to make an impact 01:53:40.400 --> 01:53:40.980 in the world 01:53:40.980 --> 01:53:43.740 these little small things 01:53:44.540 --> 01:53:45.940 are life changing 01:53:47.580 --> 01:53:48.180 exactly 01:53:48.180 --> 01:53:50.000 the whole life is made up 01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:51.800 of those incredibly magical 01:53:51.800 --> 01:53:53.600 moments that I'm really glad 01:53:53.600 --> 01:53:55.560 you're writing your memoir that's going to be a beautiful 01:53:55.560 --> 01:53:57.500 thing to read and 01:53:57.500 --> 01:53:58.760 they are important 01:53:58.760 --> 01:54:01.960 those moments that are so easily 01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:03.720 passed because they don't leave you 01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:05.820 with a bad feeling 01:54:05.820 --> 01:54:07.600 that lingers and then you got to work 01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:08.320 through it 01:54:08.320 --> 01:54:11.620 but I love also how you're saying 01:54:11.620 --> 01:54:13.580 it one begets the next 01:54:13.580 --> 01:54:14.620 and 01:54:14.620 --> 01:54:17.480 this state is the most authentic 01:54:17.480 --> 01:54:19.340 it is the easiest 01:54:19.340 --> 01:54:21.040 way to be is 01:54:21.590 --> 01:54:23.320 just kind of natural 01:54:23.320 --> 01:54:24.980 it's natural 01:54:25.450 --> 01:54:25.860 and 01:54:26.720 --> 01:54:29.600 you see we've become so accustomed 01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:30.520 to normal 01:54:31.460 --> 01:54:33.280 that we don't realize 01:54:33.280 --> 01:54:35.060 that normal is often 01:54:35.620 --> 01:54:36.920 so unnatural 01:54:37.740 --> 01:54:38.560 exactly 01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:40.800 exactly you have multiple layers 01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:42.980 of all kinds of things 01:54:42.980 --> 01:54:44.620 I refer to them as 01:54:44.620 --> 01:54:46.360 machinations and loops 01:54:46.360 --> 01:54:48.600 and stations and everything that 01:54:49.320 --> 01:54:50.460 make it appear 01:54:50.460 --> 01:54:52.760 that that part of us isn't there 01:54:52.760 --> 01:54:54.200 but it never does 01:54:54.200 --> 01:54:56.940 actually go away which is amazing news 01:54:57.880 --> 01:54:58.440 and 01:54:58.440 --> 01:55:00.520 wow this has been a beautiful conversation 01:55:00.520 --> 01:55:02.360 we're starting to come to the end of it now 01:55:03.740 --> 01:55:04.620 I do have 01:55:04.620 --> 01:55:06.480 some things that I'd like to share with people 01:55:06.480 --> 01:55:08.280 just because it's a special day 01:55:08.280 --> 01:55:10.660 for signing up for one of my courses 01:55:10.660 --> 01:55:12.200 that this is 01:55:12.200 --> 01:55:14.400 but I want to make sure 01:55:14.400 --> 01:55:16.000 and you know if there's 01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:18.100 a message that you feel is 01:55:18.100 --> 01:55:20.080 busting out of you not that you haven't given 01:55:20.080 --> 01:55:22.500 many really important ones 01:55:22.500 --> 01:55:24.180 but if there's anything in addition 01:55:24.180 --> 01:55:25.200 that you'd like to share 01:55:25.200 --> 01:55:27.680 or any news and how people 01:55:27.680 --> 01:55:29.420 can take you up on mentorship 01:55:29.420 --> 01:55:30.780 or anything 01:55:31.420 --> 01:55:33.240 people can find me 01:55:33.240 --> 01:55:35.240 at jacobliberman.org 01:55:36.380 --> 01:55:37.160 which is 01:55:37.160 --> 01:55:38.040 on the screen 01:55:39.120 --> 01:55:39.720 and 01:55:41.280 --> 01:55:43.200 yeah what I would like 01:55:43.200 --> 01:55:44.480 is everyone 01:55:45.160 --> 01:55:47.240 to come a little closer 01:55:47.240 --> 01:55:48.480 to their monitor 01:55:49.240 --> 01:55:51.240 because I want to hug you all 01:55:52.300 --> 01:55:53.280 oh yeah 01:55:53.280 --> 01:55:54.640 I'm gonna just 01:55:55.060 --> 01:55:56.920 hold you close to my heart 01:55:58.820 --> 01:56:00.120 how sweet is that 01:56:00.120 --> 01:56:02.540 and feel you holding me 01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:05.840 and feel me holding you 01:56:07.200 --> 01:56:08.880 and let's go out 01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:11.100 and keep holding each other 01:56:14.040 --> 01:56:16.120 yeah god bless you all 01:56:16.120 --> 01:56:18.840 Beth thank you so much 01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:19.960 for inviting me 01:56:19.960 --> 01:56:22.000 I feel like a little kid 01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:23.580 that's just had a lot of fun 01:56:24.100 --> 01:56:24.960 at the park 01:56:24.960 --> 01:56:28.060 and says can we do this again 01:56:28.060 --> 01:56:29.560 yeah we can 01:56:29.560 --> 01:56:30.360 100% 01:56:31.930 --> 01:56:34.440 thank you for everything that you are 01:56:35.900 --> 01:56:37.980 and everything that you are 01:56:37.980 --> 01:56:39.220 gifting to the world 01:56:39.770 --> 01:56:41.180 I am happy to 01:56:42.780 --> 01:56:43.900 spend this 01:56:43.900 --> 01:56:45.400 time together with you 01:56:46.060 --> 01:56:46.980 and um 01:56:46.980 --> 01:56:48.920 just wish you the 01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:52.120 best 2026 01:56:53.780 --> 01:56:55.320 you can imagine 01:56:55.320 --> 01:56:55.800 on 01:56:55.800 --> 01:56:58.320 the three single level 01:56:58.320 --> 01:57:00.680 and most of all that you are 01:57:01.320 --> 01:57:02.980 inundated with love 01:57:04.220 --> 01:57:06.440 how beautiful is that 01:57:06.440 --> 01:57:09.220 thank you so much jacob 01:57:09.220 --> 01:57:10.780 this has been absolutely 01:57:11.180 --> 01:57:12.280 just like the best 01:57:13.060 --> 01:57:13.460 well 01:57:15.160 --> 01:57:16.260 let's pass it on 01:57:16.260 --> 01:57:18.000 pass it on exactly 01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:20.060 hugs and kisses to everyone 01:57:21.660 --> 01:57:23.100 yeah just 01:57:23.100 --> 01:57:23.640 um 01:57:24.780 --> 01:57:26.360 let's all go out 01:57:26.360 --> 01:57:28.600 and um 01:57:28.600 --> 01:57:29.540 be 01:57:29.540 --> 01:57:33.040 just emissaries of something good 01:57:33.040 --> 01:57:34.480 something sweet 01:57:34.480 --> 01:57:35.680 something innocent 01:57:35.680 --> 01:57:37.260 and you know 01:57:38.980 --> 01:57:41.280 buy somebody a cup of coffee 01:57:43.020 --> 01:57:44.980 do we have one more moment 01:57:44.980 --> 01:57:47.120 we do yep as many as you like 01:57:47.120 --> 01:57:48.940 this is a really cute 01:57:48.940 --> 01:57:50.700 little thing that happened to me 01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:52.900 I was 01:57:52.900 --> 01:57:54.980 um at this coffee 01:57:54.980 --> 01:57:56.860 shop I go to in the little town 01:57:56.860 --> 01:57:57.660 of macawow 01:57:58.760 --> 01:58:00.680 and I was standing 01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:02.520 at the counter about to 01:58:02.520 --> 01:58:04.180 put in my order 01:58:05.200 --> 01:58:06.800 and something caught 01:58:06.800 --> 01:58:07.640 my attention 01:58:08.400 --> 01:58:10.080 my head turned to the right 01:58:10.700 --> 01:58:12.260 and there was an elderly 01:58:12.260 --> 01:58:14.460 lady with a gentleman who I 01:58:14.460 --> 01:58:16.720 assume was her husband standing there 01:58:18.300 --> 01:58:19.360 the husband 01:58:19.360 --> 01:58:21.020 walked behind me 01:58:21.020 --> 01:58:23.040 I imagine to one of the tables 01:58:24.180 --> 01:58:25.380 and the lady 01:58:25.380 --> 01:58:26.880 walked toward me 01:58:26.880 --> 01:58:28.580 and stood right in front of 01:58:28.580 --> 01:58:29.640 the little case 01:58:30.410 --> 01:58:32.420 that had all the pastries 01:58:33.520 --> 01:58:34.520 she's looking 01:58:35.200 --> 01:58:36.840 and I leaned down 01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:38.580 and I said which one 01:58:38.580 --> 01:58:39.340 do you like 01:58:41.880 --> 01:58:43.000 she points 01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:45.100 to what looked like a coffee 01:58:45.100 --> 01:58:46.120 cake at the bottom 01:58:46.940 --> 01:58:48.780 all of a sudden the owner 01:58:48.780 --> 01:58:50.080 Anthony says 01:58:50.080 --> 01:58:52.900 how you doing today I said great 01:58:52.900 --> 01:58:54.760 Anthony said you want your usual 01:58:54.760 --> 01:58:56.220 I said yeah 01:58:56.220 --> 01:58:59.000 he said 12 or 16 12 ounces 01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:00.440 fine with a little cinnamon 01:59:01.100 --> 01:59:03.160 oh Anthony please 01:59:03.160 --> 01:59:04.700 would you take 01:59:04.700 --> 01:59:06.680 and slice a generous 01:59:06.680 --> 01:59:08.680 piece of that coffee cake 01:59:08.680 --> 01:59:10.300 for this young lady 01:59:11.480 --> 01:59:12.600 she says 01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:13.980 you can't do that 01:59:15.620 --> 01:59:16.620 and I said 01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:18.900 you wouldn't take away 01:59:18.900 --> 01:59:20.240 my pleasure would you 01:59:21.360 --> 01:59:22.620 and she said well 01:59:22.620 --> 01:59:24.120 I wouldn't want to do that 01:59:24.120 --> 01:59:26.220 she says but I'm married 01:59:29.380 --> 01:59:30.360 and I said 01:59:30.360 --> 01:59:32.660 I'm married too but I don't think 01:59:32.660 --> 01:59:33.560 this is cheating 01:59:35.220 --> 01:59:35.780 yeah 01:59:37.460 --> 01:59:38.800 that's the kind of stuff 01:59:38.800 --> 01:59:40.500 that I experience happening 01:59:40.500 --> 01:59:41.260 every day 01:59:42.540 --> 01:59:44.280 the story will never 01:59:44.280 --> 01:59:45.020 leave me 01:59:45.020 --> 01:59:47.780 it's going to be in the memoir 01:59:48.290 --> 01:59:50.040 along with many other things 01:59:50.040 --> 01:59:52.520 but I'm sharing it with 01:59:52.520 --> 01:59:52.940 you 01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:55.940 because the most 01:59:56.210 --> 01:59:58.000 innocent moments can be 01:59:58.500 --> 02:00:00.200 the most profound 02:00:01.660 --> 02:00:02.440 excellent 02:00:02.440 --> 02:00:05.620 and you don't have to be rich 02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:08.260 in order 02:00:08.260 --> 02:00:09.920 to share this level 02:00:09.920 --> 02:00:10.720 of 02:00:12.140 --> 02:00:12.560 philanthropy 02:00:13.980 --> 02:00:16.140 become a philanthropist of love 02:00:18.500 --> 02:00:20.100 and we'll all be 02:00:20.100 --> 02:00:21.140 helping to 02:00:22.260 --> 02:00:23.960 heal everything that 02:00:23.960 --> 02:00:24.880 ails us 02:00:27.340 --> 02:00:28.340 that's beautiful 02:00:28.340 --> 02:00:30.180 a fabulous balance of your 02:00:30.180 --> 02:00:30.740 holiday 02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:33.660 and a wonderful new years 02:00:34.260 --> 02:00:36.000 love and thank you Jacob 02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:37.700 thank you so much 02:00:37.700 --> 02:00:39.960 and pass that on to Deborah as well 02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:41.800 I will I will 02:00:41.800 --> 02:00:43.380 okay fantastic 02:00:44.000 --> 02:00:45.820 love you so much I will definitely be 02:00:45.820 --> 02:00:46.800 in touch with you 02:00:46.800 --> 02:00:49.860 I'd love to send you a copy of my book as a gift by the way 02:00:49.860 --> 02:00:52.360 I would love to have a copy 02:00:52.360 --> 02:00:54.400 of anything that you're doing 02:00:55.920 --> 02:00:56.680 very good 02:00:56.680 --> 02:00:57.980 alright well I'll definitely 02:00:57.980 --> 02:00:58.860 be in touch 02:00:58.860 --> 02:01:02.000 okay love you so much 02:01:02.000 --> 02:01:03.040 love you too 02:01:03.040 --> 02:01:03.880 thank you 02:01:04.600 --> 02:01:05.940 bye for now 02:01:09.140 --> 02:01:10.720 aww that was nice 02:01:11.580 --> 02:01:12.520 how beautiful 02:01:13.500 --> 02:01:14.880 you guys that was 02:01:14.880 --> 02:01:15.940 that was so sweet 02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:18.560 aww man 02:01:18.560 --> 02:01:19.780 deep breath 02:01:20.640 --> 02:01:22.780 what a lovely injection 02:01:23.680 --> 02:01:24.700 into the 02:01:24.700 --> 02:01:27.280 the space I know there was someone who said 02:01:27.280 --> 02:01:27.800 oh I'm gonna 02:01:28.460 --> 02:01:31.100 they might have gone off and waited to listen at double time 02:01:31.100 --> 02:01:32.760 but honestly the space is 02:01:32.760 --> 02:01:33.140 as 02:01:34.560 --> 02:01:36.640 what's the word valuable as 02:01:36.640 --> 02:01:37.620 the words 02:01:38.640 --> 02:01:39.740 between the spaces 02:01:39.740 --> 02:01:41.560 and that's why I know 02:01:42.300 --> 02:01:44.580 or I knew that Jacob was going to be 02:01:44.580 --> 02:01:46.080 a wonderful guest today 02:01:46.080 --> 02:01:48.800 and the whole time felt like a meditation thank you 02:01:48.800 --> 02:01:50.840 I'm getting it I'm having a loss 02:01:50.840 --> 02:01:52.820 for words now so you just filled in the blank there 02:01:53.680 --> 02:01:54.800 and yes you 02:01:54.800 --> 02:01:56.580 can buy my if you're talking about 02:01:56.580 --> 02:01:59.040 my book from Europe and Jacob Lieberman's 02:01:59.040 --> 02:02:01.040 books are all on Amazon so you can 02:02:01.040 --> 02:02:02.440 find those from Europe as well 02:02:03.840 --> 02:02:04.960 absolutely and 02:02:04.960 --> 02:02:07.080 so I don't forget I wanted to let 02:02:07.080 --> 02:02:09.060 you guys know that my course called 02:02:09.060 --> 02:02:10.780 creator code which is teaching 02:02:10.780 --> 02:02:12.680 people how to pick themselves up 02:02:12.680 --> 02:02:15.040 from a blank slate 02:02:15.040 --> 02:02:16.780 and you know when 02:02:16.780 --> 02:02:18.560 Jacob was saying how he 02:02:18.560 --> 02:02:20.740 loves the unknown how did it 02:02:20.740 --> 02:02:22.560 what was his phrase something 02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:25.000 that most people 02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:27.060 just don't love something to that effect 02:02:27.060 --> 02:02:28.220 anyway I took a lot of notes here 02:02:28.820 --> 02:02:30.000 and so this is 02:02:30.000 --> 02:02:32.560 a system that I've always used 02:02:32.560 --> 02:02:34.480 when I get into 02:02:34.880 --> 02:02:36.260 a place of things 02:02:36.260 --> 02:02:38.940 falling apart and dissolving and like I said 02:02:38.940 --> 02:02:41.060 I've been through that so many times in my life 02:02:41.060 --> 02:02:42.620 sometimes bigger than others 02:02:42.620 --> 02:02:44.440 and it is very 02:02:44.920 --> 02:02:47.020 Jacob and I talked a little bit before the interview 02:02:47.020 --> 02:02:48.860 too and he's very aware 02:02:48.860 --> 02:02:51.300 of that getting older right there's 02:02:51.300 --> 02:02:53.040 there's so many losses 02:02:53.040 --> 02:02:55.000 like he said people important people 02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:56.200 to him and 02:02:57.220 --> 02:02:59.080 you know the more you've lived 02:02:59.080 --> 02:03:01.040 the more things you're going to go through 02:03:01.040 --> 02:03:03.020 the more you're going to suffer the more 02:03:03.020 --> 02:03:03.520 that 02:03:04.740 --> 02:03:07.080 toxicity is going to accumulate in one way 02:03:07.080 --> 02:03:07.680 or another 02:03:08.800 --> 02:03:10.320 and so the ultimate 02:03:10.920 --> 02:03:12.920 way to use that and not just 02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:14.340 get bitter as you 02:03:14.340 --> 02:03:16.440 as you grow or grow older 02:03:17.320 --> 02:03:17.880 is 02:03:17.880 --> 02:03:21.020 to let it humble you and to let it take you 02:03:21.020 --> 02:03:22.720 into that place of the unknown 02:03:22.720 --> 02:03:24.720 and to hold 02:03:24.720 --> 02:03:26.720 a high standard for how you're going 02:03:26.720 --> 02:03:28.580 to come back because we always 02:03:28.580 --> 02:03:30.760 come back one way or another even if the body 02:03:30.760 --> 02:03:32.320 is gone I do believe there is always 02:03:32.320 --> 02:03:33.080 an ongoing 02:03:33.860 --> 02:03:36.220 something and so this course 02:03:36.220 --> 02:03:38.160 creator code was created 02:03:38.720 --> 02:03:40.300 expressly in that place 02:03:40.300 --> 02:03:42.440 coming from the absolute 02:03:42.440 --> 02:03:44.800 unknown where I really didn't have 02:03:44.800 --> 02:03:46.620 a clue and then 02:03:46.620 --> 02:03:48.460 something came from nothing 02:03:48.460 --> 02:03:50.440 out of connection connection 02:03:50.440 --> 02:03:52.500 is a very big part of this course I actually 02:03:52.500 --> 02:03:54.400 wrote a great email yesterday just describing 02:03:54.400 --> 02:03:55.560 all of the ways that 02:03:55.560 --> 02:03:58.220 the group work is very unique 02:03:58.220 --> 02:04:00.240 and organic not because 02:04:00.240 --> 02:04:02.420 I instructed or engineered I couldn't 02:04:02.420 --> 02:04:04.000 have ever engineered it 02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:06.220 it happens organically because 02:04:06.220 --> 02:04:08.400 people are taking the risk 02:04:08.400 --> 02:04:10.280 to put themselves out there to 02:04:10.280 --> 02:04:12.140 allow things to capture 02:04:12.140 --> 02:04:13.800 their attention that otherwise 02:04:14.440 --> 02:04:16.400 might be easy to distract away 02:04:16.400 --> 02:04:18.480 from push away think of it 02:04:18.480 --> 02:04:20.220 as an annoyance or 02:04:20.220 --> 02:04:22.340 an interruption this 02:04:22.340 --> 02:04:24.500 is exactly reversing that direction 02:04:24.500 --> 02:04:26.220 allowing everything 02:04:26.220 --> 02:04:28.240 inside and outside to capture 02:04:28.240 --> 02:04:30.360 your attention to show 02:04:30.360 --> 02:04:32.080 you where you are 02:04:33.180 --> 02:04:34.380 losing energy 02:04:34.380 --> 02:04:36.340 where there's interlopers in the form 02:04:36.340 --> 02:04:38.440 of programming which are not creatures 02:04:38.440 --> 02:04:40.500 by the way that made it sound like that 02:04:40.500 --> 02:04:42.080 but that there's 02:04:42.080 --> 02:04:44.060 unnecessary layers between 02:04:44.060 --> 02:04:46.260 you and that creative 02:04:46.260 --> 02:04:48.340 spirit that naturally wants to flow through 02:04:48.340 --> 02:04:49.840 it just does 02:04:49.840 --> 02:04:52.320 it's a force and it's a beautiful thing 02:04:52.940 --> 02:04:53.500 extremely 02:04:54.220 --> 02:04:56.140 connective anyway so today thank you 02:04:56.140 --> 02:04:57.880 Jack you always appreciate you saying that 02:04:57.880 --> 02:04:58.860 and thank you Kyram 02:04:58.860 --> 02:05:01.600 okay Ramon 11 I got your name right 02:05:02.560 --> 02:05:03.120 and 02:05:03.980 --> 02:05:06.200 so today is the day that 02:05:06.200 --> 02:05:08.040 the early bird ends now that's not 02:05:08.040 --> 02:05:09.800 the end because we don't start until 02:05:09.800 --> 02:05:11.940 January 14th but the course is filling 02:05:11.940 --> 02:05:13.760 in fact today I caught 02:05:13.760 --> 02:05:15.580 I had set the numbers a little bit lower 02:05:15.580 --> 02:05:17.440 than I anticipated and 02:05:18.140 --> 02:05:19.820 so I have opened up a few more 02:05:19.820 --> 02:05:21.560 spots that are available 02:05:21.560 --> 02:05:23.760 and today is the day when 02:05:23.760 --> 02:05:25.760 it's the best value which I always want 02:05:25.760 --> 02:05:27.740 for people for some reason maybe 02:05:27.740 --> 02:05:28.740 the nurturer in me 02:05:29.660 --> 02:05:31.800 wants to make it the easiest possible to get 02:05:31.800 --> 02:05:33.380 through a door 02:05:33.380 --> 02:05:35.380 and so this is a 12 week course 02:05:35.380 --> 02:05:37.560 where we are going on a journey 02:05:37.560 --> 02:05:39.380 of learning to create 02:05:39.380 --> 02:05:41.560 from a place of rather than 02:05:41.560 --> 02:05:43.420 like Jacob was saying 02:05:43.420 --> 02:05:45.360 the fear behind perfectionism 02:05:45.360 --> 02:05:47.620 but to actually create something 02:05:47.620 --> 02:05:48.660 from freedom 02:05:49.460 --> 02:05:51.620 and what the difference is 02:05:51.620 --> 02:05:53.400 he was trying to describe it you can see 02:05:53.400 --> 02:05:55.560 it's kind of indescribable sometimes 02:05:55.560 --> 02:05:57.380 it's like almost looking 02:05:57.380 --> 02:05:59.460 backwards and going like oh that 02:05:59.460 --> 02:06:01.560 just happened and that just 02:06:01.560 --> 02:06:03.220 happened and that just got done 02:06:03.220 --> 02:06:05.320 and I feel like I didn't move 02:06:06.500 --> 02:06:07.520 and this is 02:06:07.520 --> 02:06:08.740 the time when 02:06:09.420 --> 02:06:11.140 if you feel like you can't 02:06:11.140 --> 02:06:12.180 vision and create 02:06:12.680 --> 02:06:13.900 that's when you must 02:06:14.500 --> 02:06:16.300 but if you try to do it from fear 02:06:16.300 --> 02:06:18.580 you're going to get all kinds of fear responses 02:06:18.580 --> 02:06:20.340 just like the sirens are reflecting 02:06:20.340 --> 02:06:22.840 in the background there's something big going on today by the way 02:06:22.840 --> 02:06:24.820 wow I've had to mute a lot for a sirens 02:06:25.880 --> 02:06:26.360 and 02:06:26.360 --> 02:06:28.380 when it just comes through you 02:06:28.380 --> 02:06:29.860 and you're just the vessel 02:06:29.860 --> 02:06:32.160 and the vehicle that God is breathing through 02:06:32.160 --> 02:06:33.100 and creating through 02:06:33.860 --> 02:06:35.640 then to me this is 02:06:35.640 --> 02:06:37.120 this is the antidote 02:06:37.640 --> 02:06:39.180 to what we're facing 02:06:40.140 --> 02:06:41.800 if enough of us do it 02:06:41.800 --> 02:06:43.720 so I have a totally hidden agenda 02:06:43.720 --> 02:06:45.260 that if enough of us 02:06:46.560 --> 02:06:47.720 empty of 02:06:47.720 --> 02:06:48.760 all of the 02:06:49.400 --> 02:06:51.160 you know the loops and the stations 02:06:51.160 --> 02:06:53.680 and the insides and the outsides and the personas 02:06:53.680 --> 02:06:55.860 that keep us separate from one another 02:06:55.860 --> 02:06:57.620 and focused on 02:06:57.620 --> 02:06:58.780 the division 02:06:59.460 --> 02:07:01.660 you know I love Jacob I could have 02:07:01.660 --> 02:07:03.180 not hosted him based on 02:07:04.180 --> 02:07:05.160 you know when 02:07:05.160 --> 02:07:06.040 when he was on 02:07:06.040 --> 02:07:06.900 2020 02:07:06.900 --> 02:07:11.340 we saw that oh he believed in the virus 02:07:11.340 --> 02:07:12.480 and there was all this kind of thing 02:07:12.480 --> 02:07:13.760 I could have you know 02:07:13.760 --> 02:07:16.900 not very much older version of me 02:07:16.900 --> 02:07:18.380 or younger version of me 02:07:18.380 --> 02:07:20.460 might have said no because of that 02:07:21.160 --> 02:07:23.220 but I'm like why wouldn't 02:07:23.220 --> 02:07:25.360 I include him in my awareness 02:07:25.360 --> 02:07:26.940 why wouldn't I share his work 02:07:26.940 --> 02:07:29.000 with the people that are 02:07:29.000 --> 02:07:30.800 the most important to me that's you guys 02:07:32.180 --> 02:07:33.020 you know maybe 02:07:33.020 --> 02:07:35.000 maybe he's like off on this 02:07:35.000 --> 02:07:36.920 or that but it really doesn't 02:07:36.920 --> 02:07:38.740 at the end of the day 02:07:38.740 --> 02:07:40.840 matter there's still there's still something 02:07:40.840 --> 02:07:42.700 about your people and being around 02:07:42.700 --> 02:07:44.840 and you know it might not take very 02:07:44.840 --> 02:07:46.800 long for me to shoot my mouth off 02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:48.860 and I don't know 02:07:48.860 --> 02:07:50.600 what is the worst thing that could happen 02:07:50.600 --> 02:07:52.900 with Jacob he seems to be this beautiful 02:07:52.900 --> 02:07:53.340 soul 02:07:54.320 --> 02:07:55.760 but anyway the 02:07:56.420 --> 02:07:58.440 point being that we can create 02:07:58.440 --> 02:08:00.140 and we can't do it in a vacuum 02:08:00.140 --> 02:08:02.040 that's the problem 02:08:02.040 --> 02:08:04.000 if we're on our own 02:08:04.000 --> 02:08:06.280 and struggling and thinking 02:08:06.280 --> 02:08:08.060 that we're the only ones going through 02:08:08.060 --> 02:08:09.120 our things 02:08:10.140 --> 02:08:12.600 and struggling and suffering on our own 02:08:12.600 --> 02:08:14.200 it's not very creative 02:08:14.200 --> 02:08:16.120 it's not a place where you can 02:08:16.120 --> 02:08:18.440 that's why for me when I was 02:08:18.440 --> 02:08:20.340 totally you know broken down 02:08:20.340 --> 02:08:22.200 handicapped thinking everything's over 02:08:22.200 --> 02:08:24.420 my first step after 02:08:24.420 --> 02:08:26.040 doing the inner work 02:08:26.040 --> 02:08:27.900 that bubbled up in me in 02:08:27.900 --> 02:08:29.940 a truly inspired way was 02:08:29.940 --> 02:08:31.660 reaching out and talking 02:08:31.660 --> 02:08:32.760 with my community 02:08:32.760 --> 02:08:35.960 so this is the level that creation takes place 02:08:35.960 --> 02:08:36.380 at 02:08:36.380 --> 02:08:39.300 creator code is facilitating that 02:08:39.740 --> 02:08:41.160 people are going to get their own 02:08:41.160 --> 02:08:42.940 pods to work with 02:08:42.940 --> 02:08:44.660 people that they will 02:08:45.840 --> 02:08:47.720 practice tools and techniques 02:08:47.720 --> 02:08:48.900 with that they will 02:08:48.900 --> 02:08:51.020 get accountability from 02:08:51.020 --> 02:08:52.560 and be able to share their experience 02:08:52.560 --> 02:08:54.960 and help everybody move along 02:08:54.960 --> 02:08:56.420 together because we move along 02:08:56.420 --> 02:08:57.760 together more easily 02:08:58.460 --> 02:09:00.580 than just one at a time so that's my secret 02:09:00.580 --> 02:09:01.860 agenda with creative code 02:09:02.800 --> 02:09:04.480 it is a place to get the tools 02:09:04.480 --> 02:09:06.360 of deprogramming is a place 02:09:06.360 --> 02:09:08.540 to learn to work with archetypes and become 02:09:08.540 --> 02:09:10.520 a pattern hunter so that you're 02:09:10.520 --> 02:09:12.180 not lost for long 02:09:12.180 --> 02:09:14.000 we all get lost we all have 02:09:14.380 --> 02:09:16.080 fall downs and breakdowns 02:09:16.080 --> 02:09:17.920 but we don't have to stay there 02:09:17.920 --> 02:09:20.420 that long for it to teach us 02:09:20.420 --> 02:09:22.440 what it's trying to 02:09:22.440 --> 02:09:24.260 capture our attention about 02:09:25.000 --> 02:09:26.240 so that's a lot of words 02:09:26.240 --> 02:09:27.500 anyway I think 02:09:28.020 --> 02:09:30.020 thank you Michelle I've noticed that you were 02:09:30.020 --> 02:09:32.640 sharing my link for me which is very handy 02:09:32.640 --> 02:09:33.900 I didn't even need to go get it 02:09:33.900 --> 02:09:36.060 so Michelle shared it out thank you 02:09:36.060 --> 02:09:38.320 and I'm looking forward to having you in the course she's already 02:09:38.320 --> 02:09:40.200 signed up so that's pretty amazing 02:09:41.440 --> 02:09:41.920 and 02:09:41.920 --> 02:09:43.920 like I said today at midnight I'm not 02:09:44.300 --> 02:09:46.280 specifying which midnight so it's going to be 02:09:46.280 --> 02:09:46.960 your midnight 02:09:47.900 --> 02:09:49.060 that the early 02:09:49.060 --> 02:09:50.740 bird is on it will disappear 02:09:50.740 --> 02:09:53.160 tomorrow this is the first time I'm 02:09:53.160 --> 02:09:54.900 offering this course ever even though 02:09:54.900 --> 02:09:56.920 the work is not new to me I'm 02:09:56.920 --> 02:09:59.000 literally teaching something I've used my entire 02:09:59.000 --> 02:10:00.580 life but never thought to teach 02:10:00.580 --> 02:10:02.800 until you told me but 02:10:03.960 --> 02:10:04.660 yeah the 02:10:05.280 --> 02:10:07.240 what was I going to say about that 02:10:07.240 --> 02:10:08.940 interrupted myself my mind 02:10:08.940 --> 02:10:10.920 is blown I blew 02:10:10.920 --> 02:10:12.720 Jacob's mind and I blew my own mind 02:10:12.720 --> 02:10:14.980 so what was I going to say anyway so that 02:10:16.680 --> 02:10:17.120 was 02:10:17.120 --> 02:10:18.600 anyone remember what I was going to say 02:10:19.980 --> 02:10:20.420 embarrassing 02:10:21.480 --> 02:10:23.060 well alright my dears maybe I'm 02:10:23.060 --> 02:10:24.980 out of words for right now 02:10:24.980 --> 02:10:26.560 but let's see what 02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:29.000 if I give you any guidance you could 02:10:29.000 --> 02:10:30.680 go to my website Beth Martens.com 02:10:30.680 --> 02:10:32.680 or you could just click at this link 02:10:32.680 --> 02:10:34.140 in the chat if you're here live 02:10:34.780 --> 02:10:36.860 it's in the notes if you wanted to 02:10:36.860 --> 02:10:39.000 see more about it learn more about it 02:10:39.000 --> 02:10:41.140 this is something that somebody asked 02:10:41.140 --> 02:10:42.840 me that had never been part of my courses 02:10:42.840 --> 02:10:44.840 or coaching before and they were 02:10:44.840 --> 02:10:46.780 they couldn't imagine how it was going to 02:10:46.780 --> 02:10:48.420 take place it's kind of like Jacob describing 02:10:48.420 --> 02:10:50.580 that he's in the group and somebody's trying to 02:10:50.580 --> 02:10:52.600 like just but what do you do are you coaching 02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:54.740 are you something and I will use words 02:10:54.740 --> 02:10:56.660 like coaching and teaching just to give people 02:10:56.660 --> 02:10:58.740 half a clue but that doesn't really 02:10:58.740 --> 02:11:00.800 describe it so someone said like 02:11:00.800 --> 02:11:02.680 is there you know a sample of your work 02:11:02.680 --> 02:11:05.000 I can see somewhere so I put together 02:11:05.000 --> 02:11:06.620 a video that is 02:11:06.620 --> 02:11:08.180 a combination of 02:11:08.680 --> 02:11:10.680 me teaching and coaching 02:11:10.680 --> 02:11:12.720 and guiding and instructing 02:11:13.820 --> 02:11:14.660 I was saying 02:11:14.660 --> 02:11:17.060 it's the first time oh something the first time 02:11:17.060 --> 02:11:17.880 I'll come back to that 02:11:17.880 --> 02:11:20.280 so there's this video now 25 minutes 02:11:20.280 --> 02:11:22.400 compilation of different 02:11:22.400 --> 02:11:24.420 aspects of my work being actually 02:11:24.420 --> 02:11:26.560 demonstrated so if that would help you 02:11:26.560 --> 02:11:27.800 then I 02:11:28.500 --> 02:11:30.500 didn't post it you can put your hand up 02:11:30.500 --> 02:11:32.380 for it maybe I will post it on this page 02:11:32.380 --> 02:11:34.540 that I've got on the on the screen 02:11:34.540 --> 02:11:35.440 and 02:11:36.180 --> 02:11:38.120 so it's the first time thank you Jackie 02:11:38.120 --> 02:11:39.820 this is the first time I'm running this course 02:11:39.820 --> 02:11:42.220 and therefore being a beta run 02:11:42.220 --> 02:11:44.040 first of all it's half the investment 02:11:44.040 --> 02:11:45.840 that it's going to be and second of all 02:11:45.840 --> 02:11:47.140 in exchange for those savings 02:11:47.140 --> 02:11:49.080 I am asking for feedback 02:11:49.600 --> 02:11:50.840 so as we go 02:11:50.840 --> 02:11:53.780 those people who are here in the first 02:11:53.780 --> 02:11:55.700 creator code ever are going to be 02:11:55.700 --> 02:11:57.900 helping to make it 02:11:57.900 --> 02:11:59.620 better for the future people to come 02:11:59.620 --> 02:12:01.580 that makes you a creator of 02:12:01.580 --> 02:12:03.480 creator code if that excites you at all 02:12:03.480 --> 02:12:04.960 that excites me of course 02:12:04.960 --> 02:12:06.800 and then 02:12:06.800 --> 02:12:08.580 so that's going to be really fun just to 02:12:08.580 --> 02:12:10.680 get the constant feedback as we go along 02:12:10.680 --> 02:12:11.500 so thank you Jackie 02:12:11.500 --> 02:12:14.700 for reminding me what I was going to say 02:12:14.700 --> 02:12:15.440 that helped a lot 02:12:16.080 --> 02:12:18.360 alright my dears I am around 02:12:18.360 --> 02:12:20.540 for the rest of the day if anyone has questions 02:12:20.540 --> 02:12:22.220 or wants to reach out 02:12:22.220 --> 02:12:24.540 these can be big decisions I know 02:12:24.540 --> 02:12:26.140 some of the people that are walking through the door 02:12:26.780 --> 02:12:28.440 it's monumental for them 02:12:28.440 --> 02:12:29.940 there's something they know 02:12:29.940 --> 02:12:32.380 they know that change is coming 02:12:33.440 --> 02:12:34.460 there is 02:12:34.460 --> 02:12:36.140 enormous potential for 02:12:36.140 --> 02:12:38.260 transformation if that's 02:12:38.260 --> 02:12:40.020 desired and wanted and really 02:12:40.020 --> 02:12:42.400 you don't necessarily 02:12:42.400 --> 02:12:44.060 need to desire the transformation 02:12:44.060 --> 02:12:45.740 but the desire for freedom 02:12:46.360 --> 02:12:48.300 that's the part that gets you through those 02:12:48.300 --> 02:12:50.040 big doors so do reach out 02:12:50.040 --> 02:12:52.360 if you wanted to connect 02:12:52.360 --> 02:12:54.400 with me thanks for tuning in 02:12:55.460 --> 02:12:56.220 find 02:12:56.220 --> 02:12:58.280 Jacob Lieberman again at 02:12:58.280 --> 02:13:00.000 jacoblieberman.org 02:13:00.940 --> 02:13:01.420 and 02:13:02.120 --> 02:13:03.800 let's see if there's any other 02:13:03.800 --> 02:13:05.820 links there's his 02:13:05.820 --> 02:13:07.760 Instagram since he mentioned that 02:13:09.380 --> 02:13:11.360 and his contact you can reach him 02:13:11.360 --> 02:13:13.700 they're very approachable 02:13:13.700 --> 02:13:16.000 him and I didn't realize Deborah was his wife 02:13:16.000 --> 02:13:17.920 that's a woman that I've always been working with 02:13:17.920 --> 02:13:20.000 and I'm not going to post this 02:13:20.000 --> 02:13:21.740 email because that's kind of evil 02:13:21.740 --> 02:13:23.140 for the bots out there 02:13:23.140 --> 02:13:25.460 to pick it up but you can reach him at info 02:13:25.800 --> 02:13:28.000 at jacoblieberman.org 02:13:28.000 --> 02:13:29.880 at the same thing and at 02:13:29.880 --> 02:13:31.780 his website so alright that's it 02:13:31.780 --> 02:13:33.360 I got all those words out oh my goodness 02:13:33.360 --> 02:13:35.940 my mind is blown I hope your mind is blown too 02:13:35.940 --> 02:13:37.800 I love you guys the next interview 02:13:37.800 --> 02:13:39.380 that I'm doing is going to be 02:13:40.000 --> 02:13:41.720 Killie Curado he is 02:13:41.720 --> 02:13:43.640 a London ex-police 02:13:43.640 --> 02:13:45.600 officer who has been through 02:13:45.600 --> 02:13:47.420 an incredible journey 02:13:47.980 --> 02:13:50.020 he witnessed huge corruption 02:13:50.020 --> 02:13:52.020 he tried to come up against 02:13:52.020 --> 02:13:53.520 that huge corruption 02:13:53.520 --> 02:13:54.860 and he's paid the price 02:13:54.860 --> 02:13:57.580 I honestly don't know why he picked me 02:13:57.580 --> 02:13:59.060 as a place to come 02:13:59.060 --> 02:14:00.560 and tell this story but I'm honored 02:14:00.560 --> 02:14:02.700 and I am going to be hosting him 02:14:02.700 --> 02:14:04.660 that's in a few days 02:14:04.660 --> 02:14:06.460 I guess January 5th 02:14:06.460 --> 02:14:07.500 does that make it next week? 02:14:07.680 --> 02:14:09.480 probably does make a week today 02:14:10.380 --> 02:14:12.100 and that's going to be a really 02:14:12.700 --> 02:14:14.800 really interesting interview 02:14:14.800 --> 02:14:16.360 I don't know maybe it's a PSYOP 02:14:16.360 --> 02:14:17.900 or something I don't think so 02:14:17.900 --> 02:14:19.320 I don't get that sense of it 02:14:19.320 --> 02:14:21.500 he's very sincere we had a long conversation 02:14:22.700 --> 02:14:23.580 and yeah 02:14:23.580 --> 02:14:25.080 so that's pretty exciting 02:14:25.080 --> 02:14:25.960 and 02:14:27.260 --> 02:14:29.540 anything else coming up I might have missed it 02:14:29.540 --> 02:14:31.480 but for today that early bird 02:14:31.480 --> 02:14:33.380 for creator code is going to be ending 02:14:33.380 --> 02:14:35.260 and I think frankly I think the course 02:14:35.260 --> 02:14:36.940 is going to fail today because I can see 02:14:37.420 --> 02:14:38.440 there's enough people 02:14:39.660 --> 02:14:41.520 that I don't want to make it super big 02:14:41.520 --> 02:14:42.760 I mean I want to work more 02:14:43.460 --> 02:14:44.960 together a little bit more intimate 02:14:44.960 --> 02:14:46.880 with those who are joining 02:14:47.700 --> 02:14:49.620 because this is flying the plane 02:14:49.620 --> 02:14:50.940 and creating it at the same time 02:14:50.940 --> 02:14:52.460 which I'm demonstrating by the way 02:14:54.000 --> 02:14:55.900 so okay well I think that's it 02:14:55.900 --> 02:14:57.720 for now thank you all for joining 02:14:57.720 --> 02:14:59.760 I appreciate that I'm going to 02:14:59.760 --> 02:15:01.120 play us out with a piece 02:15:01.120 --> 02:15:03.360 that my son created himself 02:15:03.360 --> 02:15:04.320 speaking of creators 02:15:06.060 --> 02:15:07.560 and I talk about him 02:15:07.560 --> 02:15:09.060 more than I see him these days 02:15:09.060 --> 02:15:10.340 because he has his own life 02:15:11.920 --> 02:15:13.760 so I think that's all for now 02:15:13.760 --> 02:15:15.700 lots of love and have a beautiful 02:15:15.700 --> 02:15:16.380 rest of year 02:15:17.700 --> 02:15:18.240 2025 02:15:20.420 --> 02:15:22.040 see I don't even know what year it is 02:15:22.040 --> 02:15:23.700 oh my goodness that's crazy 02:15:23.700 --> 02:15:25.380 almost done with 02:15:26.340 --> 02:15:26.880 2025 02:15:28.220 --> 02:15:29.360 open to my brain 02:15:29.360 --> 02:15:31.060 you're very welcome Alisa 02:15:33.240 --> 02:15:33.780 alrighty 02:15:35.300 --> 02:15:36.280 bye for now