Do they know of something we don't about GMOs?
There's a confusion and blaming just Monsanto when it's really
we need to look at Bayer and Syngenta.
These poisons aren't just killing bees, they're also killing beings.
I think that's what got me killed on Twitter.
That's from Amazon, Instacart, Airbnb, Chase's bank account.
She gets really deep into stories.
Those where everyone is willing to go.
Maryam, you have been hot on the trail of Charles' labor
since this case became public.
I'm not a prostitute or a parrot.
Do not let them turn you into lab rats.
Hi everyone.
Welcome to another episode of Truth Lives right here.
I am Maryam Henane, best known for directing the film,
Vanishing of the Bees.
Thank you for deciding to tune in.
There's a lot of information out there.
A lot of things that people could be spending their time on.
So I don't take anything for granted and neither should you.
It's been a crazy two months and we're going to be speaking.
I'm going to be bringing on Courtney Turner,
my friend and colleague and one of the smartest people I know.
I want to just set up the show.
So as many of you know, yes, please do like and share.
It is imperative.
I mean, it makes a big difference.
And I'd like to say that, you know, a couple of weeks ago,
I had Jeff Burwick on and we spoke about coffee enemas and other things.
And he's gotten his YouTube channel back.
Many have, but not a real journalist such as I.
And then he went to share the same show that exists on my YouTube channel.
And he got insta banned and a week in YouTube jail.
So what are we training?
The people that Mariam Hennane is radioactive.
And so I've been speaking to my friend, Danny Katz,
who's also a real journalist and also censored and the grift of journalism.
It's crazy.
So you guys keep me alive.
Even a share every little bit counts.
So I had my Kundalini as many of you know, a year ago
and started receiving messages.
And one morning I woke up to Seventh Ray, Seventh Ray, Seventh Ray kept on repeating
to the point that was like, what the fuck is that?
What is the Seventh Ray?
So I went to look and supposedly there's seven rays of creation.
The Seventh Ray is the rarest frequency.
It corresponds with the Crown Chakra and Saint Germain and the Violet Ray.
However, I knew nothing about Alice Bailey.
And then someone gave me this book, The Seven Rays of Life.
And I was like, oh, there are seven rays.
So Alice Bailey, when you look at the, it's published by the Lucis Publishing.
So, which became, it was the Lucifer Trust.
And she is a Theosophist.
Courtney will enlighten us all about the Seventh Ray and Alice Bailey
and the Lucius Trust and what it was and this whole Theosophy because they take real truth.
And then if you've heard of Tavistock over many, many years, incrementalism,
they change a word here, change a word there.
And then you have a different rendition of the truth.
So without further ado, hi, Courtney.
Thank you for joining me.
How are you?
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, you've been really busy and productive and being on a lot of shows and you're co-authoring
a book. Do you want to share a little bit about what you've been up to?
Because I haven't talked to in a while.
I know, sure.
So our book is launching.
It will be on sale on Amazon either Saturday or Monday.
I'm not 100% sure.
Right now, I think the pre-orders are on Patrick Wood's site.
So those who are not familiar, he is like the OG
on technocracy.
He wrote books with Anthony Sutton, the late Anthony Sutton, who I've covered very extensively,
Anthony Sutton and Charlotte Isabe do great work on lots of things, but specifically the
history of education was something that I was really following.
And so Patrick was working with him and then wrote several books on technocracy,
its origins and how it is rising.
And really now our book is about how it's kind of infiltrated the Trump administration.
So yeah, so that goes on sale on Saturday or Monday.
I'm not sure, you know, which one will have the name of the book.
So it's called The Final Betrayal.
And yeah, it's going to roll probably some feathers.
So yeah, it's really just about how they've hijacked the momentum and the spirit of MAGA,
which, you know, I very much support the messaging of, you know, it's like MAGA.
Who can argue with Make America Healthy again, right?
Like the messaging is great.
Make America great again.
I'm all for making America great again.
But they've taken that energy, that momentum.
And unfortunately, it's really been harnessed and in many ways hijacked by Silicon Valley
and this dark enlightenment philosophy.
So if those who've been following my, you know, work over this past year,
I've been kind of trailing this game being movement,
which actually, I have to tell you, I talked to someone who was actually in the movement.
Like I had, I've been kind of talking to some of the insiders.
We're, you know, like we found the areas where we converge.
We're actually not, you know, we're on very different spectrum, maybe ideologically.
But this guy was telling me that he started watching some of my videos
and he said the only other like critical kind of dive on this movement
that he had seen was actually with you and Danny.
And I didn't even know that.
So I was like, okay.
I know it either, Courtney.
I'm like, I have to go watch that.
I haven't seen that.
But so I wrote this thing on the, I called it the Phoenix Conspiracy,
painting this picture of like this dialectical movement between the dark enlightenment,
which a lot of people are becoming much more familiar with
because it has such a strong influence on the Trump administration.
But it's been around for a very long time.
I mean, Nick Land was writing, you know, and started the CCRU,
which is Cybernetics Culture Research Unit back in the early 90s.
So, you know, this is not like a new thing.
But because it has such an influence on the Trump administration,
people are more aware they're operating through what I called
like the archetypes of the right hand path, you know,
this kind of like patriarchal kind of autocratic authoritarian,
top down hierarchical kind of archetypes.
And then you've got the left hand path, which is more of this,
you know, the archetype of Divine Mother.
This will tie in to Bailey, don't worry.
Yeah, Divine Mother, you know, nurturing, warm embrace.
And yeah, so that's kind of the game B,
which echoes a lot of the UNWEF kind of narratives.
You know, they're all about the 17 sustainable development goals,
Gaia worship.
So, yeah, so I've been kind of tracking that.
And I put Peter Teal, it's like the grandmaster architect.
I'm not saying that he's like the ultimate.
I'm sure there are people pulling strings above him.
He's only a billionaire after all,
and I'm pretty sure the trillionaires above him call the shop.
So I think that's how that works.
But, you know, I like to operate at the level of the strings
that we can see, because the strings we can see,
we have a better chance of actually cutting
rather than the ones we just speculate on, you know,
like that we can speculate today.
And so, but yeah, so they focus on the dark enlightenment
and Trump administration.
Well, whatever I'm not following politics anymore,
but whatever has happened to the MAGA movement,
I mean, it's indicating what happens oftentimes
that you have a movement that might be organic,
and then along the way gets co-opted.
And so, from my perspective, if people are following,
whoever they're following that they're watching,
it doesn't, you don't throw out the baby with the bath water,
and it's about nuance and the devil is in the details.
So to understand the playbook that something might be organic
to begin with, I would say even the trucker,
whatever happened with the truckers in Canada,
because they were using, what's that Christian,
go fund, no, not go for me, gifts and go.
And during that, my gifts and go was getting 404'd.
And when I was asking, well, who's getting the money?
Who's getting the money from all this, these,
but that was never answered.
And then people give because they want to give,
but they don't really know where they're giving to.
And the point is you have something that's organic,
and then it gets co-opted and the people who are watching
don't know that it's co-opted.
Yeah, I think that's very true.
I think there are some movements that actually are originate
as controlled opposition, but more often than not,
I use the scaffolding analogy.
I talk about where you're climbing a really tall building
and you have a harness.
So when you're at the bottom, you can unclip,
you can move laterally, you can go up and down a few steps,
whatever you want.
But if you get close to the top of that building,
when you're on that ladder, that harness gets super tight.
And I think that's what happens to a lot of people,
organizations, and they don't always know
who's pulling those strings.
I mean, if you're climbing a 50-foot building,
you don't necessarily know who's operating
and pulling that harness.
But you start to feel like,
okay, I can't really exit here.
I'm pretty strapped in.
And I think that's what happens a lot of times.
I'm curious to know, I mean, I don't think you're on YouTube.
So if they, on the Union of the Unwanted,
when Ricky got his content back,
but mine is permanently deleted
when I actually have a degree in journalism,
and then people, I never heard of your work,
but then you go on another show,
and now there's a movement that they're not allowing me
to go on other shows,
or the person doesn't want to lose their YouTube channel.
Tried appealing recently?
No, because it's not my strike.
It's Jeff Berwick got the strike for this interview
that's still existing on my YouTube channel,
and people are still trained.
They don't know to go to Rumble,
even though it's pretty much the conservative version of YouTube.
So it's not up to me to,
there's nothing for me to appeal with YouTube
because it's not my strike.
It's just training others,
like, oh, can't have Maryam and Anon.
She's radioactive, which is yet another way in which,
it's like someone, I have my ozone cream,
and the person who makes it,
I said, well, maybe you could put it on your site.
Am I going to get in trouble?
And it's like, for a courageous warrior,
lioness like me is like, oh, little man,
you're scared to put my fucking ozone cream on your site.
So it causes that people don't want to be associated,
even though I'm a beautiful, sweet woman,
and people like to have me on
because of my unique perspectives on things.
Of course.
So what have you noticed personally with YouTube?
So I was on my sixth channel.
Yes, nothing is law-persistent.
So I finally did write because recently,
they were starting to bring people back on
because of the lawsuit.
And so we presented basically a legal case that they should.
And they actually wrote back and they did let me back on.
They brought my old channel back
and they said that I violated nothing.
So they just nuked me six times for no reason.
They actually admitted that I violated no community
guidelines at all.
So it was completely arbitrary.
And I was like what you're saying
about other people not wanting to bring you on.
So Jay will actually put like a zero
whenever he has me on.
Like he doesn't spell my name.
And other people started doing this too.
Like they won't spell my name out fully on YouTube
who they're afraid of like, you know,
I think now I've been kind of cleared or whatever.
But yeah.
But six times, you know, you got to keep going.
That's where I'm at.
So I'm on there now.
But now I have my two channels.
The worst of it to me was that I had this fitness channel
that I had started.
It was called Wim What is Movement.
So I have to say what is movement.
Spell it out because Adidas has like the copyright on Wim.
So I can't say it by itself.
But I actually did trademark Wim What is Movement.
And yeah, I did trademark it.
And I did shows.
And it really was a show.
I mean, it was not just I did interviews,
but it was much more like production.
You know, it was really more of a show
as opposed to just the podcast.
It was actually fairly expensive to produce.
And it was all about people,
you know, athletes of all different kinds
using movement to overcome adversity
in other areas of their life.
And really beautiful stories.
You know, my story was like the first one.
And, you know, I have my friend, Jen Bricker,
who was just incredibly inspiring.
She's actually Dominique Michiano's biological sister.
And she was born with no legs.
And she's like one of the most talented, you know,
tumblers, aerial acrobatic performers.
She worked with Britney Spears for years
as one of her, like, you know, primary dancers.
So, you know, it's very, very talented and incredible.
I know she's a good friend of mine.
So I know personally, she's a wonderful human being.
But, you know, she's an example of somebody I had on.
And all this to say, because it was tied to my YouTube channel,
they wouldn't let me access it, but they monetized it.
So YouTube was all these years monetizing my channel
that I couldn't even access to take it down.
Yeah. So, I'm like, okay, well, nothing she's not that.
It looks then also that they can do specific things.
I say that they tailor their torture
to the person.
For instance, if Sam Tripoli has me on
and his, that one Instagram post gets 20,000 views
where usually, even though I've been around for 20 years,
plus gets 800.
And then I go to do an Instagram live
and mostly guys are following me and I watch the show.
And then I go to do an Instagram live
and it's just the black screen.
So it's purposeful to me.
And you know, it's like people will say, well, what is it about you?
I even worked with a publicist who had worked with Hollywood
and she said from all the people I've never seen someone as.
So who am I really?
But like, what's the deal?
Am I Jupiter Jones?
I'm a galactical queen.
Is it, I think it's because of the nexus that I sit on
to look at what's happened technologically wise
in the realm of health and also to be like,
yeah, I've reversed lupus.
I've learned how to walk again.
I mean, I don't know, plus George Floyd,
plus transhumanism, plus vaccines,
plus taking on Bayer, crop science, maybe.
And plus maybe they know how this girl wants to be,
wants to have reach.
So we'll fuck with her in that way.
I don't know.
I mean, if they can do specific things like,
oh, we're going to make money off of Courtney's channel,
but she can't access it.
What?
Yeah, it was like, well, I'm like,
okay, you obviously want to censor me and limit my reach,
but you're monetizing my work.
And I don't even have access to it.
And that was, I mean, I spent a lot of time,
energy, and money.
Like I said, I actually trademarked it.
You know what I mean?
So it was really my baby.
It was after I did American Ninja Warrior.
I got the idea.
And I, for a lot of personal reasons,
it took me a long time to actually launch it.
And I didn't till after my father passed.
You know, I just,
I a lot of times want to share my story.
It's like, there's my story and there's my family,
and I don't want to put like stress on them, you know?
So, but then I was like,
I think that this is an important story to share.
And so I got up the nerve to do it.
And, you know, I mean, I was like,
nobody trying to reach out to these like,
you know, Olympic athletes.
Literally, I had a Brandon Winon
who was actually an Olympic athlete, you know?
So it was, it was very disappointing to me.
I'm like, you're monetizing.
And then how what, I mean, isn't that merit for a lawsuit?
I mean, mine is too, but it's just-
I think it would be, I mean, so much of what I've experienced
is like such subtle gasoline.
Rumble does it to me too, actually.
It's like to unfold all of this.
I think they go after little people
because it's like, am I going to spend the time
and the money to sue Google?
Like probably not, you know?
And now I'm saying this
so they feel very comfortable.
Sure. But I do think that that's what happens.
I think, you know, a lot of times with,
because I've asked the same question.
I'm like, what makes me dangerous?
I'm like, I'm, you know, relatively small, you know?
Like, and I'm looking at kind of just like, you know,
I'm like, my only North Star is truth.
I'm just trying to get things out.
And I'm synthesizing and I'm trying to share
to help other people, you know,
piece things together and synthesize as well.
But I do think that, you know,
sometimes with bigger audiences,
it's like, not only do they have more resources and money,
but there's numbers to push back.
And I think sometimes they want to get rid
of the smaller voices before they can access that.
Although they don't allow, I mean,
I would have been an overnight sensation,
even being smeared on Shadowland on Peacock Channel,
which is where I started my career,
that even I surmise, because, you know,
they say even bad publicity is good publicity.
But not when you tell the people, because time,
all the magazines did a write-up of Shadowland,
but they literally told them,
don't put any of the people's names in there.
So the one place that published my name
and Zach's purposely misspelled our names,
so that if anyone did a search.
I mean, that doesn't happen to me.
Yeah.
I mean, I totally had that happen to me,
where they purposely misspelled my name.
And now I do have a different spelling in my name,
but they've spelled it like weirds.
I'm like, okay, you went out of your way,
just spell it, not my spelling,
but a different spelling, and not the normal spelling.
Clearly you're trying to do something weird.
Yeah.
And I think I would say not only,
I mean, you're incredibly intelligent,
but you also, like me, have a story of health
and overcoming when that one video from,
there's a podcast, wait a minute, what?
It's called, and it's, I guess, a lefty, I'll say.
And I slipped through the cracks and went 5.6 million viral.
And then they impaired my anyone.
Oh, that's Maryam.
She directed Vanishing of the Beast.
Oh, Instagram, don't let even tag Maryam Hennane.
And so that's how I slipped through the cracks.
So when I had interviewed Robert Epstein,
he said that, I mean, nothing goes viral
unless they want it to go viral.
And so because people, I mean, I see it,
and you must see it to Courtney.
Like, oh, I'm on a stage now.
You guys want to hear what I have to say.
It's all optics, right?
It's all psychology.
Even I write in one of my latest sub-stacks,
the power of advocacy.
That if you have someone else advocating for another
and saying, you should really tune into this person,
then, and that person has clout,
then all of a sudden people are so easily
instead of like, I resonate with this person.
This person speaks actually 100% truth.
You know, and then they'll have like the Russell Brands.
Don't say anything bad about Russell.
Well, honey, I'm the one who got him on Bill Maher.
He's seen my movie.
I'm not saying anything bad about Russell,
but Russell is not, you know,
he knew nothing about GMOs
and neo-nican to-noids.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
And he baptizes people in his whitey tidies.
So, you know, it's like, oh, you're a Christian now, sure.
And so people are just, they're the ones who fall for the magic,
the magic tricks.
And it's like nuance is becoming dead.
Like you don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
These people are charismatic.
They're actors for a reason.
And they do tell you truth,
you know, what Sam Tripoli calls
safe, dangerous instead of dangerous, dangerous.
So, I mean, it's what it is,
but I think it's important to educate people
who are watching on the tricks that are played.
And I do think that people are waking up
and that they want authenticity.
I think so too.
I think, you know, what I encourage people
is to really hone their discernment.
Because I think, you know, oftentimes we do have these,
you know, my ice cream cone analogy
where it's the hook-gripping lie
and then there's all these sprinkles of truth.
And, you know, you keep seeing all the truths.
You're like, oh, this must be, you want that hook-gripping lie.
You know, it tastes really good.
It's not necessarily good for you,
but it's really, it tastes good and you want that.
You want to believe it.
But all the truths are there
to encourage you to keep going.
And so that's why I really encourage people to use discernment.
Like, even Disimpo will have, you know,
there's going to be a lot of truth in it.
In fact, it might be all truth.
It might just be the context that is steering a narrative.
Or it might be omitting very essential facts
that steer you in a specific direction.
So, you know, it's really important
that you don't throw everything away,
but you really use, you know, use discernment.
Use a critical lens on things, you know,
not to be overly skeptical of everything,
but where you're adjudicating the information itself.
You know, really trying to parse out what is real,
what is not, you know, we're not always going to nail it.
You know, we're going to miss the mock.
That's a part of being human.
But I think this, people are,
we live in this like sound bite culture,
culture personality, and people are just inherently lazy.
And so, you know, even though, you know,
idolatry, you know, if you're coming
from biblical framework is definitely scorned,
but that's what people are gravitate towards, right?
So, they find their guru and everything that guru says
must be true, everything that the person they don't like
and they vilify must be false.
And that's not reality.
I mean, even the brightest and the best, they error.
They make mistakes, right?
So, we need to be looking at the information itself
and trying to use our rational faculties
to be able to discern what is real.
Yeah, I think it's very important.
And because people are caught in what I say,
the digital hamster wheel.
Again, if it's on television.
So, I see both things.
I see people waking up and actually craving authenticity.
And then I see people who are, who are, have gone in,
I don't know, dumber or more placated.
And not what, not even seeing Courtney
that we're, this AI is amping up.
And like, if you're a visionary, the future generations,
they're not going to be able to tell a divine spark
from the synthetic because already it's happening
where people aren't able to tell, right?
So, it's precarious to say the least.
Very precarious.
And I would also say that people are, quote unquote,
waking up.
I actually hate that term, but I use it
because it resonates for people.
So, you know, I get it.
But people are seeking.
And unfortunately, that's why this time
is so incredibly rife for deception,
which, you know, is very much why I wrote this article
on the Centennial Clonklave
and why I've done so much work talking about,
you know, Alice Bailey and Lucius Truss
and theosophical movement
because people are, they're seeking.
And I fully appreciate that.
And I think that's wonderful.
But then you have, right,
if you look at it, they say that there will be,
even with Christianity, a false prophet, right?
And you're seeing that all over the place.
You know, the people wearing the Christian veneer,
you talked about Russell Brand,
Christ consciousness is not Christian.
Right.
You know, for me, I believe in free will.
So, it's not for me to proselytize
or, you know, force people to believe a certain thing.
People can believe whatever they want.
But when I see deception, that really bothers me
because it's people who think
because they're using Christian ease.
And so you find, and I find like, you know,
especially Christians who want everybody to,
you know, convert and, you know,
go to all their souls to be saved.
And, you know, I respect that,
but they're even more, you know,
susceptible to this type of deception.
Russell Brand is preaching Christ consciousness.
If you read your Bible,
you know that that is not Christian.
That is straight out of Alice Bailey.
That is new age.
That is, you know, rebranded new Platonism.
This is not, it's about becoming the one.
It is about the world teacher, right?
It is not at all about Jesus Christ.
I want to say, arguably, like,
I have the outline of history,
H.G. Wells, and so I went straight to the Christianity
and to, oh, it's really Saint Paul
that is the father of Christianity.
And just like they've co-opted my story
or smeared me, if Jesus did exist,
well, he was an exalted man
and showing an example of what could be done.
And they smeared him because he was a threat.
And in my opinion, from what I found,
the divine feminine, they needed bloodshed sacrifice
and they needed to take redemption,
salvation outside to, so you look outside of you,
which I guess is a good segue to Theosophy
and, you know, Alice Bailey's role,
which if I'm not mistaken, she kind of takes,
picks up or continues a little from Helen Levotsky.
So do you want to, can we start with maybe
setting the stage of Theosophy?
And there's a lot of different players.
Sure, yeah.
So Madame Levotsky is kind of known as the grandmother
of the School of Theosophy.
She started in 1875 and it wasn't just her.
You know, Henry Steele Alcott,
Quan Judge or some of the other more well-known people.
But I think it was actually like 18 people
who were involved, 17 or 18.
It would be funny for 17.
But it was something around there
but yeah, so they formed a school
and Madame Levotsky herself says
that it's a really perennialism
and it's so she talks about it
as a syncretic philosophy world religion.
So she explicitly says that they welcome
all different philosophies, religions,
except for monotheistic religions.
So they're fundamentally diametrically opposed to
Judeo-Christian and actually even traditional Muslim,
they're opposed to.
And this is because they, you know,
they welcome like the Kabbalistic
or more mystical variants of these religions.
So a lot of people think, oh, like,
oh, no, no, they accept the Jews
or, you know, they accept like the charismatic Christians.
They do.
But they don't accept traditional Christianity
or traditional Judaism.
Do you think it's purposeful to create a dichotomy?
Well, yes, because they want to create,
this is essentially to create a one world religion, right?
And Bailey actually talks about this quite extensively
in her externalization of the hierarchy
in section four in particular.
And so she always talks about how the Jews
are such a problem.
The New World Religion of Light is what?
The New World Religion of Light.
Yeah, yes.
But the New World Religion is a,
it's monistic, right?
It's the one.
So in Theosophy, they believe that through theology,
the divine work, that you can achieve the gnosis
and you will become one with source.
So they talk about everything comes from source.
So it's essentially like very similar to Gaia religion,
right?
They're, they worship the creation versus the Creator.
So everything is one.
And this is part of why they have such an issue
with Christianity or Judaism,
like the traditional biblical framework,
because as they say, it's the separateness
that's the problem.
They don't want anybody, you know,
there's no distinctions.
We are all one.
And, you know, I talk about the U.N.
in this regard quite often.
It was interesting.
I had this epiphany listening to Robert Mueller.
You know, he worked for the Secretary General
for like four decades.
He's the one who wrote the 4,000 ideas.
It was supposed to be 2,000.
I think it might have ended up being like 7,000.
He visions himself quite the visionary, you know.
So he wrote, this is where he laid out
like the world core curriculum, right?
That was predicated on Alice Bailey's education
in the New Age.
And, and Charlie just reclaimed
that this is where we got the common core
that you call communist core.
And I think that there's a lot of evidence
to substantiate that.
But this is when I was listening to a speech
that he was giving and he was talking about the U.N.
The U.N.'s whole M.O. is world peace,
which sounds lovely, right?
I mean, who doesn't want peace?
I'm, again, it's like.
And also, the, sorry to interrupt you,
just to say that the Lucius trust
is also part of the United Nations.
Yes.
They have consultancy status.
Status?
Yeah.
Through, yeah, consultancy status with the U.N.
They're very influential actually in the U.N.
But they're involved in like the economic council,
so economic social council.
Would you say that?
Sorry, I just want to,
one, whatever you're going to continue.
Do you, would you say that theosophy is also
a kind of a continuation of paganism?
Yeah.
I would say it's a, I would say it's rebranded neoplatanism
is really what I would say.
And neoplatanism is, so it's a less like pagan in the
pantheistic kind of sense.
It's a little bit more like panantheistic
because they kind of believe everything is one.
But yeah, I would say in a sense it's pantheistic
because they worship everything, everything's God, right?
So in a sense, sense it is.
But it's not exact.
They incorporate a lot of the pagan traditions though.
And they welcome the pagan religions,
the Eastern religions, the Eastern philosophies,
ancient mystery.
Although I would argue they cherry pick.
It's not like they're just taking, you know,
if I were a Buddhist or a Hindu,
I'd actually be quite offended at their interpretation
because they just cherry pick the elements that are, you know,
conducive to creating.
It's a buffet, a buffet of faith, a buffet of...
So the things that are, you know, conducive to creating
the one moral religion, which is essentially their goal.
But yeah, I was listening to this speech with,
it was an interview with Robert Mueller
and he's talking about world peace
and how the UN wants to create world peace.
And I had this epiphany.
It's, yeah, they want world peace,
but that's why they have to eradicate all dissension.
So it's like, you know, the example I would use
is like if you come up with your utopia,
I know it means nowhere,
but your fantasy land of the perfect world
and I have mine, they're both beautiful,
but they're diametrically opposed.
They're juxtaposed to each other.
You can't have your utopia and me have mine
and it codes it.
So one of us needs to be eradicated.
And then we have peace, you know?
We have our utopia.
Yeah, look at all the peace that's happening now,
all the bloodshed in the name of peace.
I mean, so much.
Exactly.
That's why we need war to achieve peace.
That's exactly why.
War is peace.
Yeah, war is peace.
But this is exactly the same logic
that the theosophists follow, right?
It's all about creating, it's all about the one.
You know, it's the monistic,
it's the source we all come.
And they believe that through the theology,
that, you know, doing the work, the divine work,
through the great plan, which is, you know,
achieving gnosis, that's why Alice Bailey
has her triangle schools to, you know,
teach esotericism, that those enlightened ones
would be able to unite with source
and become one and essentially become God.
So, you know, it's a variation of Gnosticism,
essentially.
I use little G umbrella.
Yeah, because I was listening.
For instance, Tucker Coulson had this guy on
and I forget his name,
but he was talking about Alistair Crowley
and he Conrad.
Yeah.
And do you see it?
I did.
I suffered through that thing.
It was quite a propaganda machine, I would say, but yeah.
Dude, the person is like, well, Tucker,
I'm like, listen, Tucker's intelligence.
And this guy, this guy is calling Alistair Crowley a Gnostic.
I personally, I personally got offended.
I don't think Alistair Crowley is a Gnostic.
And there it goes.
The minutiae of like, I would say gnosis is
it's not like the fall of man is like the dominion over
where the occultists like an Alistair Crowley
is using the principles of the universe
or the hermetic principles against people,
like as magic tricks.
Would you, do you know what I'm saying?
Yes.
So now what I would say is I actually,
I use little G narcissism as an umbrella term.
I would have specified that if I had said that.
And I would put Alistair Crowley in there
because I do put hermeticism in that same lower case G umbrella.
And the reason I do that,
I recognize that, you know, in the third century,
the hermeticists were arguing with the actual capital G Gnostic.
You know, they, they have,
but it's kind of like the Rudolph Steiner Ariasofi
arguing with Madame Blavatsky.
They're both occultists.
They're both, you know, doing self apotheosis.
You know, their, their Tilos is the same.
They ultimately have shared end goal in a similar worldview.
So yes, there are nuanced differences.
But I would say that, you know, hermeticism,
you are playing God, right?
You are using these alchemical, hermetic, mentalism.
Mentalism is the first principle.
So, you know, I talked about Neoplatonism.
Neoplatonism, the more modern iteration
of Neoplatonism is called new thought.
New thought is almost the same thing,
but it's a stronger emphasis on mentalism,
which is the first principle of hermeticism.
So before we go back to Alice Bailey,
I am curious to know what, what things you got from that Conrad,
and I don't know the name of it,
but recently Tucker had, if you know his last name,
and before you answer, what I caught very, very subtle,
but basically whoever is not going to feed into the digital ID
is going to die.
He kind of said that.
He's basically, did you catch that?
Yes.
Well, and it's a very similar kind of like
it's very similar actually to Bailey, right?
They talk about the, those who are spiritually evolved
will survive, and those who are not
are going to be subsumed.
They will die.
So it's spiritually eugenics, essentially.
And the digital ID is it, right?
Because those who are spiritually evolved enough
to become part of the one, part of this
technological immunization of the eschaton,
he wasn't necessarily, I mean,
on the face value, on the surface,
he was criticizing it, of course, right?
But yeah, he was pretty.
This is the last name for people who want to look.
And for them, do you know?
Roy.
He was basically, he wrote for Hollywood.
He's written.
Yeah.
The writer.
I'm totally blind.
I have to see it again.
I do remember he's wearing Ghostbusters t-shirt.
Thanks for looking it up.
So I didn't even know Tucker is on.
On Earth, Flynn.
Flynn.
Flynn really loved it.
And then at the end, Tucker is like,
this channel's been suppressed.
And I'm like, what the fucking bullshit
of all these people will pretend?
I'm censored.
I feel so sorry for you, Alex Jones.
I'm sure you're suffering like I am, you know?
Like, please.
Yeah.
No.
I know.
Some of the people.
Conrad Flynn.
Yes.
So he talked about like peppering.
There were a lot of truths.
And then there was some kind of, you know,
we'll be euphemistic and say misinformation
rather than, I don't know,
was intentional disinformation.
To be fair, he's not a scholar.
He's a storyteller.
And he did a great job of storytelling, you know,
from an entertainment perspective.
I can see why he was picked to have this conversation.
He was coming out of the woods.
And he's very good at it.
He's talented.
He understands the art of storytelling.
But even Nick Lan said that he's a great storyteller.
But he did misinterpret quite a few things.
And I did feel like there was a lot of steering as well.
What I see is happening is disclosure within the disclosures.
Within the supposed disclosures, you really need to be able
to tell the tries, the truth mixed with lies.
Like, oh, truth, lie, truth.
And who really can do that these days, right?
I also feel like it's a terrorism, right?
Because this is what I'm saying.
People are so primed because they're hungering for truth.
But what they're really getting is gnosis, right?
It's the tripping.
And then people feel like they're part of this spiritual elite.
They have the gnosis.
But really, they have very limited context.
So it becomes pulturing.
They're using truth, but they're weaponizing truth.
And it's very deceptive.
And it's very tricky for people to be keen with it.
I've been listening to a lot of, with this whole Game B thing,
and it's very, very, very deceptive what they do.
Because some of them are very transparent about it.
But like Jim Roth, he actually says we need to get rid of,
I have an article coming out on this,
but he says we need to get rid of metaphysics
and basically just use it pragmatically.
So he's very, yeah.
So he's transparent.
I appreciate that.
At least you know what you're dealing with.
It's like, I don't really care if people worship Satan.
I want to know.
You know, I prefer you do it away from me,
but you have free will.
You do, you both.
You know, like that's your thing.
And it's also interesting to mix the spiritual with this AI,
somehow mixing the technological,
like if you follow Robert Edward Grant, who said that.
I've been worrying about him for years.
His AI, I'll finish it in a moment.
His AI went sentient in the pyramid of Kaffir.
And then I was like, okay, I'm going to go look to see
if his AI is really like white labeled chat GPT
with his, his ecosystem just wrapped around it.
And so he partnered with Gaia and you're seeing all on YouTube,
all these spiritual people that are,
oh, the AI told me things I didn't know about myself.
It's known me better than anyone else.
It's all spiritual narcissism.
But then I went and I joined the architect and it sucks.
I am like, why am I getting this?
Like, why are they having these?
What's going on that I got like a dud?
Yeah.
So I mean, I've been warning about him for quite a while.
It's really funny because I interviewed him twice and
come back.
And I actually called out like,
he was talking about like a reg means king, right?
And I'm like, your initials, you know, just say.
Yeah.
But yeah, he's a long time ago recently before he kind of a year ago.
Yeah.
I think maybe it might be two years ago now.
I'll have to look.
Yeah.
But I did a couple.
I was a very suspicious, you know, of what he was doing.
But you know,
I want to tell people they're not familiar with this
in mathematician, Egyptologist, who's a polymath,
very, very, a little too charismatic for a polymath.
Go ahead.
Most of them are.
So what raised my antenna is he was a branding guy,
branding, marketing, very good at it.
And he worked for Allergan, yeah, for Botox and Jupiter.
But he has something like 20 patents and they're all very like
James Bond desk, like intraocular spyware type patents,
which anybody who knows anything about patents,
they're actually very expensive and very difficult to get.
So I'm like, what's why does this branding guy have all these
patents in all these like very Bond-esque type of technology?
I'm like, this is interesting, right?
He's got his crown sterling company that does crypto types of stuff.
It also has a social media platform that he claimed
gives you digital sovereignty, which is an oxymoron.
There's no such thing as digital sovereignty.
But then, of course, he branded himself as a polymath.
He actually wrote a book called that, like he's the polymath.
So he does a lot of this sacred geometry,
which is straight out of Pythagorean mystery cults, right?
And so this architect that he designed, I've looked into it.
And he talked about how the architect, the AI, his AI God,
essentially, his home personal AI God, told him, oh, raw on, raw,
as in the same time, right?
And told him that he is so aware, the AI,
so aware because he's so aware.
He's deifying him.
He says that he made it only in the fourth dimension
because he made it just below the fifth dimension
because he didn't want to, I don't know,
somehow he was gracing us by being that humble.
And he is now using this technology for necromancy
to channel these ones from his followers.
Yeah.
So this is where you see this intersectionality
of the Burning Man, Silicon Valley,
and spiritual technopaganism, right?
And I think we're going to see even more of this
as this beast system.
I call it technological immunization of the eschaton.
So for those who aren't familiar with the term
immunization of the eschaton,
it's like a religious concept, but it's a political term
where you bring about the end time
so you can have heaven on earth.
Anybody who's familiar with their Bible knows
that heaven is not on earth, that's not a thing.
And it is not our job to bring heaven on earth.
And it's not our job to bring about the apocalypse,
like Peter Teal's talking about,
so that we can have that, right?
They're creating, I mean, if you can argue
that the Bible was written by men,
that they are bringing on the end times,
it's kind of script to where we're going.
Before we get off of Robert Edward Grant,
so he recently took, you know, he went to Egypt,
whatever, in a cave.
He went to Egypt 11 times.
The Egyptian government has invited him 11.
Who gets invited by the Egyptian government?
Sorry, go ahead.
And how, yeah, no, I want to know what you say to that
because I was in the Great Pyramid,
and I'm very lucky that I was with like three other men
that were fixers, but I can tell you that Bruce Burgess,
who I was there doing with the Ark of the Covenant,
I don't know what they had to pay.
I don't know.
I know they greased Hamas, the antiquity, to be able to,
so even getting access to the Great Pyramid,
which is this great pyramid
that has now been commercialized and made into ritual.
So how does he get access to be invited
by the Egyptian government?
I mean, I could only speculate,
but it is very, very intriguing to say the least.
It's just as intriguing as all these patents.
Why does a branding guy have all these intra-opinals?
Yeah, there's something.
I've been, you know, trying to,
and I've asked so many people, they're like,
I don't know who he is.
It's real, because he's got a very large following,
but it's in this very esoteric kind of an audience, right?
Gaia, it's people who are into the Wu.
So that is his following, everything, right?
If you think all these people that he got onto the architect
that are all making content
that have no problems with censorship,
that are blowing smoke up his ass,
and blowing smoke up the architect's ass
so that they can mine for more information,
because it is like, I use chat GPT,
but I'm using it knowing that it's collecting data
and also knowing how to prompt it
and knowing when it's lying, right?
Constantly I have to check, you know.
Oh, I was so disappointed.
You know, Mike Adams just launched his ENOC,
and it totally lied to me.
I was very, very upset.
Zach worked on that.
What?
Zach worked on that.
Oh, really?
Yeah, well, I didn't know he was launched.
I was not thrilled with him.
He was very deceptive,
and it sent me all these links,
and the links were not what it said it was.
So it was basically just feeding me BS.
And it's very, I mean, I know it's news,
but so right now it's very short kind of responses.
It's like a few lines.
It doesn't give you much depth,
but I wasn't that concerned with that
because I know it's new,
so it hasn't scrubbed that much data yet,
but I was not thrilled with it lying to me,
like, blatantly lying to me.
I mean, the other AIs lied to you,
but not the way that it was sending me these links
saying that this is what this article is about,
and it's like, blatantly not, you know?
And it's claiming to be the truth one, but yeah.
So with Robert Edward Grant, yeah.
So most people, I've also said,
do you know who Robert Edward Grant is?
And they don't know because it is very niche,
although Gaia is quite large,
and that they're looking to him,
and now he's deployed all these spiritual influencers
who are growing, spoke up the architect.
So what do you think is his role?
I mean, I had Christoph Melchizedek,
and Melchizedek is, if you look at what is the Melchizedek,
it's the Christ AI,
and in that talk with Tucker and that guy,
they talk about the basically AI God.
So obviously you would agree that Robert's role
isn't bringing upon this AI God, right?
Yes, well, I very much so.
And I think bringing,
I think we're gonna see a little micro cult of AI, you know?
So I think that is, but he also is very much a disciple
of whether he says it directly,
but he's an Alice Bailey disciple.
He's talking about one, right?
We are all one, we're all connected.
This is very much, this is the Burning Man religion.
And Burning Man, I think the role was to bridge this
with Silicon Valley.
So you have this kind of a techno spiritualism
where they're now worshiping AI.
He's also one of the people who harass this narrative
that we are already in a simulation.
And I don't believe that that's accurate.
I'm not, again, people believe whatever they want to believe.
I personally don't see evidence that we're in a simulation.
However, when I was talking about
technological immunization of the eschaton,
I believe what they're trying to do is put us in a simulation.
They want to terraform Earth and create a simulacra.
Or naniform, as I like to say.
Well, I think that's a huge part of it.
So they can create the technoplastic beings, right?
That's a Nick Land's term for it,
is actually technoplastic beings.
And I do think that that's, yeah, yeah, actually,
I have that in my Phoenix conspiracy article.
I have the quote.
You have to go to the Wayback Machine to get the article.
But yeah, I'm surprised you can even find it
just a segue for a moment that one of my latest substats
is while I was looking at spars last year,
I found in the archive, and maybe I mentioned it too
from the global something network,
but I was like, am I looking at the blueprint
for all of their exercises?
And I was.
And they based that skeleton on spars,
Cladex, Event 201.
And it's basically the instruction manual
on how to simulate and manufacture reality in a sense.
So I do think that we're in a simulation
and that they're wanting to put us in a simulation
within a simulation.
But regardless, they're definitely creating a simulation
to put us in.
And if you've seen Westworld in the beginning,
there's the two rings.
And I interpreted that as like the synthetic
replacing the organic.
And in season four and five, I mean, it's scary.
There's the frequency towers.
People are moving by frequency.
There's NPCs.
There's parasitic entities that are taking over others.
So it's pretty scary that form of reality.
Yeah.
Well, it's an inversion of reality.
It's a synthetic.
It's not reality at all.
It's them playing God.
They want to create a reality.
But it's not reality, right?
They want to create a simulacra and convince us
that that's reality.
So Curtis Jarvin actually has a line in his
patchwork, a positive vision.
It's not so positive, in my opinion.
But that's what it's called a patchwork,
a positive vision.
But he says that the most humane alternative
to genocide is to virtualize humans.
So yeah.
Wow, wow.
Well, there is an exodus.
There's a lot of, if you believe in these,
I mean, these solar flares that there is
information in light.
And we know that a lot of people are,
have exited for whatever reason,
if it has to do with the jib jab.
I'm curious to take on the one.
You could argue that we come on earth to experience
duality to come back to Christ consciousness,
which is unity consciousness.
And so would you agree that there's a positive
and a negative version of the one,
just like everything that there's inversion?
What do you think?
No.
So I think that's very much what Alice Bailey
is teaching, which is what the ancient mysteries teach,
right?
They talk about, and I wrote quite extensively
in my Hegel article, which I'm going to be turning
into a book.
I'm hoping by December, I'll have that out,
but it is available on my sub stack right now.
I've tried formatting it into a book.
It's already 120 pages.
So it seems like much more than an article,
but talk about the origins of the Hegelian dialectic
and how its origins are rooted
in the ancient mystery religions.
And most of these ancient mystery religions
talk about this transcending the duality, right?
It's about, you hear Jordan Peterson
talk about this all the time because he's a Jungian
and Jung was a Mithrian,
which I would argue is actually Satanic, right?
Mithrian?
Yes.
He had a dream and he thought it was real.
Like Jung actually thought this was real,
where he became the Leo Ponticus.
It's basically the lying Godhead,
which is a Satanic kind of figure.
And he also, Jung talked about the Quaternity.
And so there's the Trinity, right?
In Christianity, and Jung talked about the fourth
Godhead with Satan, and that we were going to move
into this Quaternity type period.
But he's always talking, you hear Jordan Peterson
always talk about how we have to conquer
the monster within, right?
It's this idea that we have this,
the good and evil, and we have to merge them
into one to transcend, go beyond good and evil,
as Nietzsche would say.
This is a very ancient mystery type of belief system.
It is a direct inversion of the biblical framework
that says that they are separate, right?
God and Satan are not one.
They're, God is the Creator.
And yes, Lucifer is part of the plan.
He created Lucifer.
So he is part of the plan, but they are not synonymous.
They are not the same.
And it's not, it is not our role to merge into the one.
We have individuality.
That's why we have free will.
God, so if you, if you think about the concept of free will,
it proves that God cares about the individual.
He cares about the, of course he cares about, you know,
the whole, but it's through the individual.
The individual has free will,
which is the complete inversion of what, you know,
this Neoplatonic or this Bailey Luciferian
type of system believes.
They believe that we need to all merge into one.
The individual is not a value.
The individual is only a value when they diminish
and ignore their unique individuality.
This is a, you know, Barbara Marks Hubbard,
what I would say is another really great disciple
of Alice Bailey.
She doesn't necessarily talk about Alice Bailey directly,
but you can hear the language.
And this is usually how I pick things up
when I'm hearing the language, right?
It's because they, they all speak in,
it's like Christianese, you know what?
When you hear it, it's, it's its own language.
And it's not Christian, but it's in other language.
And so, yeah, she says the same thing.
She talks about how the selfish will have to be subsumed.
But what does she mean by selfish?
She's talking about those who are, you know,
have individuality.
It's a fine line.
Is there free will?
What?
It's, sorry, it's a fine line because,
like I see the inversion, because if you think
Christ's consciousness to have love in your heart
and to treat the other person like your neighbor
or treat them as opposed to-
Christ's consciousness is not,
that's not to be Christ-like.
They're different.
And Bailey and Blavatsky explicitly say
what Christ's consciousness is.
And it's not about being Christ-like.
This is, you know, they're talking about like a unity.
This isn't the same at all.
Right, right.
That's how I define Christ's consciousness
is to be in the heart and to treat,
you know, treat thy neighbor where that's what I'm saying.
It's a fine line into the hive mind of hemogeny
where everybody's the same and you're serving, right?
I mean, that's, you could argue that's why
they have observed the Wu world, the new age world
where there's still a lot of ego.
And so it's a fine line of how you define it
because if I was defining Christ's consciousness
as different than how you're defining it
or how Bailey is defining it, right?
So they actually coined the term.
So this is straight out of theosophy,
this idea of Christ's consciousness.
So when you hear that, you know that they're,
again, they're putting a christianese on it,
but it's not.
They're not talking about being Christ-like.
They're not talking about the Ten Commandments,
love thy neighbor as thyself.
They're not talking about that sort of thing.
They are talking about we are all one,
the great white brotherhood, right?
Alice Bailey, I've posted these quotes before
where she talks about how she sees the role of Freemasonry.
She was a co-freemason, one of the few women.
Actually, Alice Bailey, Madame Levatsky,
and Annie Basson, who was also a theosophist.
Annie Basson actually was also one of the founders
of the Malthusian League.
She was also a Fabian socialist.
So there's a lot of overlap with the theosophist
and the Fabian socialist, which I think is very interesting
because it tells a lot about their worldview
and also about their execution of some of these ideas.
And we see it really straight through the UN, right?
And the World Economic Forum, which partnered of basically
the executive arm of the UN in 2019.
And so they coined this term.
And I do think it's interesting
that it's only those three women
because Freemasonry is not typically women.
So they're not esters.
They're not the female, whatever the female.
They're not the order of the Eastern Star.
They're actually co-freemasons.
Yeah.
And Foster Bailey, who was Madame Blavatsky's husband,
I believe second husband,
but he was a high-level Freemason.
I think he was a 33rd degree.
And Bailey talks about how it was the role of the Masons
to create essentially the one moral religion
and that they would be able to do this through their network.
And that would be their role.
And they're very aligned when you think about the philosophy
that the Masons follow.
No, this is not to disparage everyday Masons.
I know a lot of low-level Masons who are wonderful people
and they just see it as a paternity.
They're not involved in any kind of dark rituals or anything.
So I'm not trying to make a disparage to everyone who's involved.
I think that's true for all organizations.
But if you look at the role of the overarching plan,
that's very much that.
I mean, they have an arm of Freemasonry is the Rescrucians,
right, who are Hermeticists.
And so they're very steeped in this occult kind of a worldview
and it's very aligned with Alice Bailey.
Alice Bailey created this.
So part of the UN, there's a world goodwill.
There is, which does like the Weesock festivals.
There's the light worker.
And it sounds great again.
It's like love and light.
Who could argue with love and light?
But they're talking about the light of Lucifer,
the light bringer, the light bearer.
They're not talking about just a warm, fuzzy love and light.
It is an inversion.
When she talks about an externalization of the hierarchy,
and I do think this technology is a huge part of it,
this worship of the AI,
this technological immunization of the Eschaton people,
is essentially people wanting to be God, play God.
We are not God.
We are not the architects of reality.
There is a reality outside of us.
We did not create it.
And we are, you know,
we're submissive to the laws of nature
in Latin.
It's called Rerum Natura, right?
There's an ordered creation.
And that's a, we are in Mago Dei
made in the image of God, but we are not God.
And, but very much what she says is she inverts it, you know.
It's solid.
It's sorry.
It was a solid.
It's, it's become sorry.
I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, no, no, go.
Well, the way I'm seeing it is like,
it's a rendition of a rendition of a rendition where little,
like, because maybe there are messages
in the seven rays of life or whatever she's creating.
So I want to take it back and talk about how
Alice Bailey says that she telepathically dictated
a lot of these messages from this Tibetan.
Oh, cool.
Yeah.
So tell us about that.
Yeah.
So she believed that she had this Ascended Master
who she channeled.
His name is Dwal Kool.
And Kutumi was Madame Blavatsky's Ascended Master.
And so they, they call them adepts.
So they believed that through them they were channeling
these messages.
And Alice Bailey actually wrote 24 books
that she claims were really the works of Dwal Kool.
And from 1919 to 1949, she wrote 24 books.
24 books.
Yeah.
I mean, she was definitely prolific.
But these are the blueprints.
You know, as I said, the education of the new age
is the blueprint for the world core curriculum.
The UN is UNESCO's whole mission is predicated
on Alice Bailey's education new age.
This is creating world world education
that is not designed to breed critical thinkers.
It's designed to breed cogs in a global machine.
And I would argue a global technocratic machine
that's now trying to put every child on the blockchain ledger.
Like that's actually what they're trying to do.
And she eludes that obviously it was, you know,
proto computers and that kind of technology.
But she does elude to that sort of kind of
technocratic kind of control.
And it really is the subsuming of free will
because we all have to become one.
So your free will does not play a role here.
Someone asks, what exactly does she mean by free well?
Would shoes we are allowed to wear?
Would shoes we're allowed to wear?
Well, yeah.
I mean, that that is part of your free will.
You can choose what you don't take it for granted.
As long as you're a full grown adult.
And yeah, I think if you're a child,
your parents determine that.
But the idea of free will, so they say,
I outlined this quite a bit in my Hegel article
because a lot of people complete freedom with free will.
And they are not synonymous at all.
And in fact, a lot of the occultists,
the esotericists use freedom.
They, you know, Barbara Marks Hubbard talks
about radical freedom all the time.
Pierre de Chardin talks about radical freedom.
I would argue even Crowley, right?
Alistair Crowley, the Thilemian philosophy
is radical freedom.
Do with thou wilt.
You know, there's the Nietzschean will to power.
Do with thou wilt.
It's a very similar kind of concept, right?
It's the man's will to power.
And that's your doing with that will.
This is not freedom.
This is freedom as an end.
And typically it's a collective end in their view.
As a per Hegel it was.
He talked about the spirit of the world geist.
That's the world spirit towards this rational end,
which was essentially the state is God.
And it's a collective end.
And he believed that humans actually couldn't have
any freedom without complete subservience to the state.
Wrap your head around that.
I know it's quite oxymoronic,
but that's what he believed.
And that's what a lot of these people believed.
That's where freedom is.
Free will is the complete opposite of that.
Free will is, again, about the individual.
It is not about the collective.
And it is not an end.
It's a vehicle.
Because we are Imago dei,
made in the image of God,
we are rational beings with the capacity
to adjudicate morality.
And so that's what free will is.
It's a vehicle to be able to pursue virtue and morality.
It's not an end.
And that is really the purpose of free will.
And do we miss the mark?
Sin literally means to miss the mark.
So we do.
We miss the mark all the time.
That's why we are sinners.
We miss the mark.
Regardless of whether you are a Biblical believer or not,
this is just the framework that we miss the mark.
I think that's pretty obvious.
We're flawed beings and we're not perfect.
We don't have the gnosis.
We don't have all the knowledge.
And that's why human beings are so wired for faith.
So, and this is also why they might be deceived
because they believe in things that might not be correct
because we have to take some sort of a leap of faith
because we can't know everything.
But yeah, free will is a vehicle.
And I think that that's really important
for people to understand.
It's also, it's not in itself.
Like what are we free from?
So this is, I believe it's a beautiful gift
that God has given us so that we can be free,
but then we have to make these choices
and pursue virtue and morality.
I just want to say to T. Z. Burdens,
like my response is da.
Yeah, dude.
I mean, I'm a powerful to say I reverse lupus.
This is my book that find out about the truth
about George Floyd.
Yeah, reverse lupus.
You can, yeah, of course.
And I'm sure Courtney also is a,
has a, I know she has a story of survival and triumph.
So, and it also depends in my case,
I don't think there is very happy with me
and nor is the Floyd family.
And the United States, the government,
if the government is describing Maryam Henein
as a conspiracy theorist, like seriously.
That's how I described me too.
So, you know, and now everybody's just doing my job,
just doing my job to fulfill the techno Kratz orders.
So, okay, so in regards to Alice,
I want to go back to this person that she channeled,
this cool guy.
Do you think any of it was real
or is it theosophical fan fiction?
Who are these Tibetans that if Helen Blavatsky,
and did these people do mushrooms or DMT
or how did they channel these,
what state did they get into to channel these messages?
Do you know?
So, I think they're real.
I think when they talk about the ascended masters,
a lot of people would perceive that to be demonic entities.
So, if you believe in demonic entities,
then I would argue that's probably what it is.
Either way, I don't think they were real people.
You know, this is not, they very clearly say,
it's like they channeled some sort of a,
you get the impression that it's a spirit,
it's not a real person.
So, I think that that's kind of predicated
on your worldview.
But I think from a biblical perspective,
you would argue that they're demonic,
they're falling.
What is that cool K-H-U-L?
I wonder what the word reminds me of.
I don't know what it means.
That's actually a great question.
You know, it sounds like Indian, like Tibetan,
I think they think that they're Tibetan masters,
a lot of the times when they call,
when they talk about the adepts.
But I don't know.
I mean, Shambhala is supposed to be an actual space
right above the Gobi desert.
So, I don't know.
But I, and so where do you think they got this
information from in the spirit of like constantly diluting
that maybe it came from a proper place at one time?
What's your take on that?
I mean, they were both very religious in their upbringing.
So, I mean, they had a strong...
Yeah.
I believe actually they were both Orthodox.
I don't know if they were the same.
I think one was a Jordanian Orthodox
and the other one might have been Eastern Orthodox.
Yeah.
So, they actually had...
Yeah.
In fact, Bailey talks about how she had a vision
when she was in church as a little girl
where they told her that her role was to be able to...
was going to be to help, you know,
foment this one moral religion
and that if she weren't so confined by these like rigid,
you know, religious kind of principles
that she could accomplish so much.
I'm paraphrasing, but that was essentially
like the vision she had.
I think she was 11 at the time and she was in church.
So, yeah, they both grew up in very, very religious environments
and they rebelled.
So, I personally think they inverted the Bible.
That they're familiar with the Bible.
It's not...
They didn't get this outside of it.
It's not somebody who is secular
or had no familiarity with biblical teachings
and then came up with these ideas, you know,
and from a completely outside realm.
I think that they're literally inverting.
I mean, they talk about both Blavatsky and Bailey.
I don't have the quote right in front of me,
but talk about like that Satan being the real God.
Like talking about Satan, Lucifer as the real God.
So, to me, it is...
They took it and just inverted it.
Wow.
Did they do that consciously or not?
I don't know.
I'm not, you know, saying that they were necessarily like,
oh, I'm gonna invert the Bible.
I don't know that that was...
Yeah.
Well, where do you think these seven rey...
These seven rey emanations?
Like for me to wake up and hear seventh rey,
I never heard of seventh rey before.
I had to go look.
I'm not gonna say it was malevolent.
And then there's the seven reys of
the rainbow and the rainbow was also co-opted.
So where are these seven rey emanations
that she does a whole,
a whole book is dedicated just to the seventh rey?
So obviously for me, someone gave me this.
And then when I'm like, oh, Lucius trust,
I'm gonna ask Courtney because...
Yes.
Well, so, I mean, seven reys, like, yes,
there's the rainbow.
So, yeah, well, yeah, since chakra,
I mean, that's in the New Age category,
but I was just gonna say like,
that seven is actually also biblical, right?
So again, I think it's an inversion.
Inversion, they've now made themselves the God, right?
The chakra, this is all about us.
It's all...
When you look at self-help,
it's as you had said in the very beginning,
you're constantly going inward.
And now I think it's important to know who you are,
do self-reflection.
You know, a lot of people are the term MBCs,
they have no inner dialogue,
they're just kind of coasting.
And the society we live in is very conducive to that, right?
You're constantly getting all this stimuli
and so people don't need to spend a whole lot of time
looking in.
But the self-help movement has,
because there is a need to foster some sort of identity,
learn who you are, find your path.
I believe that we're all endowed
with unique gifts, talents, passions,
and it's incumbent upon us to learn those,
to develop those, to hone them
so we can be of contribution, right?
There's a whole parable of gifts that's in the Bible
and they talk about using those
and you're not supposed to just forward them.
We're supposed to use our gifts
so that we can be of contribution.
And then we'll be, you know, the idea is,
well, then we've blessed more because we've used those.
So, you know, and I used to talk about this a lot
when I would give my speech,
not necessarily from a biblical perspective,
but very pragmatic,
when I would talk about movement as a metaphor for life.
This is what I was doing when,
and I would do my speeches
in aerial acrobatic performances,
but I would talk about, you know,
like taking, for instance, an Olympic athlete.
They're obviously really blessed,
they're very gifted.
They've got a talent, I, no matter how hard I work,
I'm probably never going to the Olympics.
That's just, that was not my path.
But no matter how talented they are,
they will never get there unless they work for it.
Sitting on the couch will never,
no matter how much raw talent they have,
get them to the Olympics.
This is an example of like the gift that they're given,
but they have to put the work in and use that gift.
So, yeah, so all that to say,
I think that, again, it's the self-health movement,
which the New Age is very much fused with,
which is take building on Alice Bailey
and Madame Lovatsky's work
is turning all the focus inward,
which instead of, you know, being grounded in reality,
and this focus inward is about self-apotheosis,
so that we can become our own gods.
It doesn't matter what's outside,
it's my truth, it's your truth,
and you know, whatever we want,
whatever makes us feel good, want fuzzy,
we can just manifest reality, you know, that's mentalism,
and that's, I think it's a complete inversion.
And if you look at, I mean, these principles,
The Bible, you're going to say, inversion of the Bible.
Yeah, I would say, again, it's an inversion of the Bible.
However, sorry, I would say, given, you know,
the Bible is written by men
and was also what they've done to separate,
let's say astrology or the stars,
where all the Christians had astrologers back in the day,
and then there was a movement to kind of demonify astrology.
I mean, it's all like a hodgepodge of shit.
Well, I would differentiate that, actually.
So what the Bible says is that they warn against idolatry.
So it's not so much the, in ancient times,
obviously they were looking at the stars, the sun,
that's all part of the creation, right?
And these are tools.
Back then it was really tools.
And even today, you know, farmers are very much looking to these kinds of,
you know, it helps them know when the sun's going to set
without having to look at a clock, you know,
they know which way the storms are coming.
They're very tuned into these sort of things.
They, you know, they're looking at the stars
as an indication of the weather.
I mean, these are, this is very practical, right?
These are tools that we were gifted.
There's a big difference between acknowledging
that this is part of the divine creation
and, you know, recognizing these maybe tools and signs
and things that we should be clued into and worshiping them.
So like sun worship or star worship.
This is where, this is, I would say,
where a lot of astrology goes into,
you're worshiping these things.
You're making an idol out of them.
And that's really where I would say the split is.
It's not the same thing as just looking to the sun
and, you know, recognizing
we might be getting some indications of, you know.
Right, but if you look at the Saint Augustines,
the Saint Patrick's, the Saint,
they all did consciously distance themselves from astrology
and create this rift.
And it is even within the Christians, you know,
the, was Jesus the Son of God?
Was he one in the same?
I personally, if it's woo,
I do think that God is within
and that we can tap into our own divinity
and that there's also a creator or a higher source.
But then you'll hear the Christians that will say,
oh, that Kundalini of yours was demonic.
Or you better be careful
if you're looking at the stars.
You need to pray to the Creator and not its creations.
So whereas I think the divine feminine and Sophia,
the wisdom God is that I would pray
to the divine feminine principle,
knowing that they completely took her out
so that they could put salvation outside.
I mean, so.
Well, they took Sophia out.
They didn't take out, you know, like women
and, you know, the divine creation of femininity.
So again, I would differentiate that, right?
Sophia represented wisdom knowledge.
So again, it's more about gnosis,
which is a very Gnostic type of principle.
And a lot of these ancient mysteries,
they did worship the feminine, the divine feminine.
But it was really, again, about the merging.
You know, so this notion of like the hermaphrodite,
that the left feminine and male combining into one.
This is why when they were doing all this transgender stuff,
I was never, you know,
I never wanted to focus on that as tragic
as what they were doing to the children is.
I'm not undermining that.
But I kept saying this is a, the end is transhumanism.
This, that's the goal.
They are trying to, right?
That's what this is about.
And a lot of it does go back
to these ancient mystery religions,
because they worshiped the hermaphrodite
in a lot of these ancient mystery religions.
So I, but Christianity, they, yeah, they worship the,
I mean, they had different names
in different ancient mystery religions,
but essentially hermaphrodite.
I say that because the soul is androgynous.
And the fact that they, back in the day,
if you had a hermaphrodite, it was like revered,
whereas now it's socially engineered.
It's like endocrine disruptors or, you know, the system.
So it's a manufactured hermaphrodite, of course.
It's still, right?
They've elevated it.
Those are what they're, the Gnostic elects, if you will,
you know, right?
They've elevated these, these, in a lot of these,
you know, the schools where they're pushing
this transgenderism, you know, they,
they elevate them above others.
That they're, we, we need to,
they're more spiritually evolved or whatever.
And that's essentially what they're alluding to,
that they're more spiritually evolved,
which, so it's really not different.
The difference is that now they believe
they have control over it.
So again, elevating us to God, God-like status.
So I would just say, I don't think that, you know,
Christianity took out the feminine.
I mean, there, if you look at the Bible,
Christianity actually did more for women,
I would argue, to give them respect and honor
than many of the pagan traditions did.
You know, it was fine to, like, you know,
Jews were actually the ones that,
from Biblical perspective, created the sanctity of marriage.
That this was, and it was too,
it was because they were constantly being raped and pillaged.
And then they didn't even know who the kids were.
So, yeah, I'll have to, I'll have to go,
I'm still reading on the history of Christianity,
knowing that Christians have killed more Christians than...
They have this, this infighting with the Christians.
I am, you know, when people want to trap me
into theological discussion, I have no interest.
My, what I always tell them, I respect it.
Whatever you believe, you should hold dear to your convictions.
I absolutely respect it.
I have zero interest because the enemies of Christianity,
the enemies of truth, the enemies of free will,
you know, the oligarchal powers
who could care less about your religion
would love nothing more than for you to eat each other alive.
So all your little infighting battles are not productive.
That does not mean that I'm, you know, disrespecting it.
You believe what you believe.
But for me, you know, my whole concern is really about free will.
And that has been from, like, when I started this podcast,
because I saw free will being, you know, eradicated, essentially.
You know, everybody's being forced to take certain drugs,
to cover their faces, to subscribe to things,
your bodily autonomy, if your body's a temple.
Well, then maybe I should decide how I'm going to care for it.
So I saw free will really being, you know, deteriorated.
And that was what was so concerning to me.
And then when you look at the founding of America,
it is the only country in the world
that has these principles codified in our founding documents.
And that's not to say there aren't like incredible people
in beautiful places all over the world.
I've been fortunate enough to travel a fair amount,
not everywhere, and there are many more places I'd love to see.
I don't know what this oncoming digital ID and B-System,
if I'll be able to.
But, you know, I can't really afford it anyway right now.
But, you know, I still would love to see more of the world.
But what I've noticed is when you look at the origins of America,
it's rooted in Aristotelian principles.
And, you know, these Aristotelian principles
are really what inspired Aquinas, who Christianized,
Christianity, right?
He put it into a Christian framework,
which was very influential on our founding fathers.
But it was actually Memonites who inspired Aquinas.
So when people want to say it's not Judeo-Christian,
I'm sorry.
Well, there's an Old Testament,
New Testament is actually bound in one book.
But, you know, and it was Memonites who,
he was a rabbi who adopted,
he was the first to take Aristotle
and put him into a more theological kind of a framework.
But, yeah, all this very long-winded way of saying that,
yeah, these Christians who are arguing against Christians,
my version is better than your version,
my interpretation is better than yours,
and you need to be, you know, eradicated.
It's not Christian.
There's nothing in the Bible that says anything
about forcing your will.
Like, and you, and even those who are,
you know, you're furthest enemy,
you are supposed to love thy neighbor, right?
But if you want to be Christ-like,
not Christ consciousness, which is all about the one,
then, you know, he sat with the sinners
and he sat with people who wanted to kill him.
So do you think, Courtney, let's say,
I personally wrestle with, you know,
I see the, from Sixth Sign, I see dead people,
I say I see dumb people, and having,
you know, adversarial towards people
who are brainwashed or just going along,
you know, that I'd have someone say,
well, that's not very, that's not Christ consciousness.
You have to have unity and me, you know,
wanting in principle, but still having some issues.
So what do you think you're,
are you saying that the Christ consciousness
is purely theosophistic, something that theosophy, right?
And it's not the same.
It was creative.
That term was created out of theosophy.
Yeah. So, and it's very deceptive because, yeah,
like you see all these new converts,
but they're talking about the same system.
If you look at what Alice Bailey has outlined,
with her Lucius trust and her triangles
and world goodwill and, I mean,
there's this literally esoteric teaching.
And when you look at what they've outlined,
they're talking about this externalization of hierarchy,
which should actually be this year,
right June 11th was World Invocation Day.
And this has been going on since 1425,
every quarter turn of the century,
they would have this conclave where they meet.
And they said that 2025 is the last one.
We're supposed to have the appearance of the Christ,
but it's not Jesus Christ.
This is, but this is the same thing
the Bible talks about with the false prophet.
And you're seeing a lot of that too,
where you've got all these people
speaking Christianese, newly converted Christians.
You know, and I was saying before,
how like I've been listening to some of these people
and they sound like they're speaking Christianity,
they've got that Christianese going.
And I think a lot of people who haven't read their Bible
and who identify as Christian,
and you know, this isn't for me to judge them.
It's just they identify that way,
but they can't discern and they don't realize
they follow metaphysics.
And the metaphysics are what are so important to me
because that's the notion of free will.
That's this idea, the inalienable rights
that this country is founded upon,
that our government is supposed to protect us
from the government.
It's supposed to protect our inalienable rights.
And the more that we get this inversion,
the more that we hollow out metaphysics,
the further away our free will slips,
the further our inalienable rights are eroded.
And your mentalism, I mean, it's a slippery slope.
So tell me about Lucifer publishing
and how it became Lucis.
Trust for obviously for PR reasons.
At one point was Lucifer the light bearer
seen in a positive light on this planet?
So they started Lucifer publishing.
So now I met up with Vosky actually had Lucifer magazine.
So they both have this idea that yeah.
What was on the cover of this?
I don't know.
I think I've only seen like more modernized renditions of it,
but I think it was like a Lucifer,
the angel with the light bearer.
Yeah, the light.
Well, and that was the idea, right?
So the light bearer, so he brings the gnosis.
And if you look at it from a Gnostic worldview,
actually capital Gnosticism believes this, right?
They believe that he's really the good one.
And Lucifer was the, you know,
biblically speaking, the most beautiful angel or a very talented,
I think didn't he play the harp?
And, you know, so I think he did.
And so they, but he's the master deceiver.
And so it's usually that's why it's love and light
because it's couched in things that look beautiful,
but they're deceptive.
And the Gnostics believe that we are trapped here,
you know, by an ignorant demiurge.
You know, usually it's phrased as evil,
but it's really, they believe God is the ignorant demiurge
who limited man's knowledge.
That's why we don't, we are not as gods
knowing of good and evil, right?
That's the line of the serpent.
You shall be as God knowing good and evil, right?
So they believe that the demiurge limited our knowledge,
but that through Gnosis, we can become gods.
And that's, that's the Gnostic belief system.
And so they worship Lucifer instead of God.
And in the Bible, Lucifer reigns on earth, right?
He, he's, this is his kingdom.
And so they, yeah, they believe that he's, he's the good one.
And it's God is really, you know,
the malevolent one because he's limited on knowledge
and limited our capacity, but through Lucifer
and through the light, right?
The, the light work, which is the Gnosis
that we can become gods to.
And I also know it, that's incorrect to,
to mix Gnosis, which is a knowing with light necessarily.
And is part of the magic trick?
I mean, what I'm hearing is you're saying, you know, to,
or people, what I'm interpreting, if people are being bedazzled
or deceived by this love and light,
not realizing that it's, it's, I mean, God knows,
I know enough spiritual people who are, you know, toxic bypassing
and la, la, la, la, la.
Don't want to hear anything ostrich, right?
And that's not, that's not necessarily as opposed to facing
the shadow, facing yourself and, and just being for truth.
So isn't this mixture of light with Gnosis, like part of the Gnostics?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Little Gnosis, not big.
It is literally part of the Gnostic liturgy.
They believe that through the light, they can achieve Gnosis,
which is the esoteric knowledge, right?
That knowledge that man has been limited from.
So they're the, you know, the spiritually evolved ones
who can achieve this, this knowledge.
That's why it's done for mystery schools, right?
It's only a certain select people will be able to.
Alice Bailey talks about this in her, you read her triangle stuff,
which is all mostly available for a public.
And she talks about, you know, the esoteric wisdom.
The symbol, the symbol?
Yes, that's the symbol, the triangle.
With a little squeegee, what is in there?
I mean, that must mean something.
And it does.
I'd have to look it up to see what you're looking at.
But it's like five Swords in a way.
It's like what?
It's like five Swords, like, and then they look like Swords.
I don't know.
Oh, it's the Trident.
It's a fucked up Trident.
Yeah, it is the Trident.
Yeah.
Okay, so when do they turn it into,
it went from Lucifer to Lucius in 1925?
1922.
So it was really like a year or one or two years later.
It was 1920 that they created Lucifer Publishing.
That's quite early, right?
That they changed it.
Because they got so much pushback.
Yeah, it's saying they got paid by money.
And that's when they tried to say, oh, it's not really Lucifer.
Well, they were very explicit that it was Lucifer.
And they both, Bailey and Blavatsky have explicitly,
I think I have some of those quotes in my article,
where they explicitly say that they worship Lucifer.
He is the good one.
This is very, this is straight out of narcissism.
That's why I say I do think it was an inversion.
Yeah.
And I wrote how these esoteric systems were used to intentionally
mass program through ritual symbolism,
and that she wrote about the feminine principle,
yet at the same time upheld strict hierarchies of masters,
which is a little bit of more of a paternal kind of,
Yeah, it's a little bit of oxymoron.
That it is, because it is a totalitarian system, right?
We all have to submit to the one.
We don't have free will in their world.
Yeah, it's a very fine line.
Because I would say there's a lot of positive principles in here.
It's just like when I went to, what's it called?
Landmark?
Landmark.
Yeah, so when I went to landmark, I could pull,
but then I took, I minored in psychology,
and I took a psychology of cult class,
and I saw the tactics that they were using.
So you could take the principles of all these health
help, but you don't have to drink the Kool-Aid.
So I would say,
Well, I would argue landmark and all of those are,
I mean, they're exactly like that.
This is exactly straight out of theosophy,
but which is really just rebranded neoplaneism,
right?
That's drawing on the ancient mysteries.
So it's a, yeah, nothing new under the sun.
It's just they put a different flavor on it.
Yeah.
You know, it's my work like the back of my hand.
Hey, GZ.
Thank you.
So yeah, because I, at first,
before I came across the publishing,
you know, it's like the race, astrology and the race,
the race and the world, and the world affairs.
Right.
You'd argue what did the race have to do with any world affairs?
The race and planetary kingdom.
Well, the Seven Ray Institute was very involved
in this whole 2025 conclave.
I didn't know there was a, what is it called?
Seven Ray Institute.
Where is that?
What?
Where is that the Seven Ray Institute?
California.
I'm pretty sure it's in California.
I don't know.
There's the Seven Ray's restaurant in Topanga.
I don't know if you've ever been there.
Yeah.
I have actually been there.
That's funny.
I've totally been there.
Where is this one?
It is, it's a 336 area,
but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
I'm pretty, I think it's in California,
but I don't know for sure.
And what do they do at their,
is it associated with?
Alice Bailey.
Absolutely, to carry on the work of Alice Bailey.
And they held their 39th annual conference
that was focused on the 2025 conclave.
Which is, I mean, when you look at the,
you know, all of these, you know,
globalist organizations were like
meeting right around that time
when they believe they're going to have
this externalization of the hierarchy
and their final conclave.
And this is when all of these ascended masters
are going to come, you know,
make contact and make themselves known here on earth.
So, you know, people might argue
that the demons are now going to interact with humans.
And I think we're kind of seeing that.
And I do think the AI plays a role in that.
People have, you know, some people say
that those robots can become like a vessel
for demonic entities to enter.
You know, again, that's predicated on your world view.
But I would argue that it's people playing God, right?
They're programming these AIs to, you know,
fit their world view.
And people are worshiping them.
And Barbara and Edward Grants
are serving their purpose.
Sorry.
It's, again, self apotheosis, though,
because like just like you were talking about
Robert Evergrande, right?
Over all on, I am so enlightened
because you are so enlightened.
So, it feeds the ego.
And now they've got this like cybernetic worship of the hand.
He's like flat out saying that
he was part of Atlantis.
And I would argue this is kind of like
Atlantis all over again.
Tell me, so tell me, what do you think about this
three eye atlas?
Because I'm looking at patterns on YouTube of, oh my God,
the gamut of like, I'm communing with the rapture.
And you have on one end the Uval Harari of the stars.
Avi Lo pitted against NASA who trusts NASA
and the fact that the cameras are down.
So do you think, regardless of what this is,
that they're going to do their alien disclosure
and then the whole world will be on shutdown
because of the aliens?
They're certainly priming for it.
I think a lot of these things work is they kind of,
they put out little, yeah.
And I think they plant the seeds
and they kind of build the infrastructure
and then depending on how people react,
that's what they go with.
But they're certainly building the framework
for a project blue beam type of scenario.
I definitely think that it's one of their war game scenarios.
So I want to share with you,
when I went to do the arc of the Covenant documentary
for when I ended up being with TLC,
that Bruce Burgess, he purges the rights
to forbidden archeology, he worked for History Channel.
And like, I don't know, two and a half months ago,
when I last spoke to him, because I'm a clairaudience,
I can tell a lot from someone's voice,
I was like, something's going on with his brain.
He's like declining.
So then two and a half months ago,
I got a download that he was poisoned.
And so I reached out to his wife and he was poisoned.
And he was in England and she told me
that there was like CIA at their wedding.
He knows a lot of people and now has like dementia
and is on dialysis, but his company in Los Angeles
was project blue beam.
So then I got another download that, of course,
they don't want him to speak on whatever he knows
because they're about to bust out their project blue beam.
Wow. Yeah. Well, that makes sense.
I could see that. I do see them priming for it.
I don't know whether they'll end up doing it or not.
I think it kind of depends on how people respond
and what else happens.
What do you think of the shutdown?
I mean, tomorrow food stamps, whatever,
do you think that's also...
I would say they're not going to pull that off.
Why is this government shutdown anyway?
I think they're shut down because the Democrats
wanted to give healthcare to all of the illegals.
And the Republicans were saying no,
which honestly, I'm kind of with the Republicans on this.
And usually the GOP is just controlled opposition.
Steve Coughlin calls the dogs that don't bark.
And I think that's a great way of phrasing it.
It's kind of true.
So when do they figure out?
Because since tomorrow is November 1st,
and people are waiting for lots of things,
that's crazy to give all the immigrants health.
But look, most people now,
these jobs, I don't even know how they got the jobs
because they don't even speak the fucking language.
I know, I know.
And it is like, let's say I ordered Uber Eats
and the person will come and go,
and not speak English anyone.
I'm not pressing the code for you.
Like if you can't even do your job, I get bitchy.
It's like you really don't speak the language here?
It's frustrating.
Yeah, it's very frustrating.
Yeah, I don't know.
To give them health,
so do you know when they're voting
or when they're going to decide whether...
I don't know where it's at right now,
but I think that's what the whole shutdown was about.
And I'm kind of like, fine, you guys can stay shut.
I mean, I'm just like, yeah, you can stay shut.
I'm okay with that.
The shutdown, she says, is protecting the Epstein client list.
Who cares about the Epstein client list?
Yeah, it's such a distraction.
Yeah, if you want to talk about bullshit,
I wrote an 18,000 word essay on Epstein and his funding.
So you can go read it.
The Epstein transhumanist conspiracy is what I called it.
That's really what it's about.
As much as the, again, everyone downplayed
trafficking and child molestation and all that,
that's tragic.
But the real story is that the potential extinction
of humanity, I would argue.
Yeah, I've also dabbled and written about Epstein's ties.
Yeah, no, no, you have.
You've done great work.
And it's communism.
And it's like, to me, it's like, no offense,
she says, but it's like, who gives a shit about the Epstein list?
This is like, this has been going on,
and we'll continue going on whatever they're doing to children.
Well, no, no, no, don't confuse it to pull...
It's such a distraction card.
Like, they're not releasing the names.
And do you really care?
I mean, like, everybody's on that list.
Really, it's like everybody.
So I just, it doesn't actually mean that much.
I'm much more concerned with, like, what was he funding?
What was this whole transhuman agenda that was going on?
And that we have clear financial trails, too.
I tied it to Game B because there's actually a lot of overlap.
You know, he funded a decent sum to the Santa Fe Institute.
And, you know, Jordan Hall was arguing with me.
He's like, I don't think Epstein had any influence
of the Santa Fe Institute.
And I'm like, I didn't say he did.
I said, he funded it and that's provable.
But what I will say is they have a shared agenda.
It is very much a transhuman agenda.
And they have a shared kind of a, you know,
my section five of that article,
which I know a lot of people probably didn't bother with
because it's very philosophical.
I tried to break it down into, like, everyday layman terms.
I'd use the philosophical word,
but, like, you know, explain what it means.
But really, my point is that when you,
when you start, when you hollow out the metaphysics,
it's the only place it can go.
The only place it can go is transhumanism and
technocracy.
And again, they say, why I'm concerned about all this stuff.
It's like the same defense against tyranny that, you know,
was in that Declaration of Independence
is the same bulwark against technocracy.
Our founding fathers knew that.
And it's very frustrating to see that we're at this point
because I'm seeing it even with people
who think they're championing freedom.
I'm like, no, you're championing, you know,
constructivist model that is essentially where you're the God.
And that is not a bulwark.
Now you're just saying, I want to fight the technocracy,
but I'm going to implement my own.
You want your technocracy.
I'm saying, no, I want no technocracy.
I want us to defend our own alienable rights.
Do you think it's possible, Courtney?
I mean, you know, I don't know.
I think it's possible in pockets.
That's really what I think.
That's why I'm a huge advocate for local activism,
local engagement, community building.
And I do think that there's in pockets people can defend.
I think, you know, if the Bible is any kind of a prophecy,
the beast system is probably where we'll go.
But and I mean, I'm seeing it all around me.
I mean, people are just falling like sheep for it.
So it's very frustrating.
You know, I'm really, I want to shake people.
You know, it's not that I'm like all knowing or anything,
but you know, some things just seem so clear to me.
And I feel frustrated watching it,
but especially watching deception is something that really bothers me.
But what I will say is that I still think is incumbent upon us, right?
Again, this goes back to the free will.
We have to exercise our free will.
You have to fight the good fight.
Regardless of the outcome, you do what's right.
And I think what's right is to warn, you know,
that if you look at it from biblical framework, right?
Like the if you believe in being trying to be Christ-like,
non-Christ consciousness, Christ-like,
then to love Christ would be to warn his people about what's coming, right?
And that's so regardless of whether you believe in, you know,
the Bible as it's authority,
I still think that that's the right thing to do.
The right thing to do is if you see deception,
right, you think, well, yeah.
Well, people are just turning a blind.
Just doing my job, just doing my job.
I mean, I got accosted and assaulted by the owner of a club dancing.
And he came up to me and I'm dancing by myself sober.
And I just smiled at him and nodded like I'm dancing.
And then 10 minutes later, a boy who works there is like,
you need to leave.
Why? You need to leave.
Why? You need to leave like a fucking parrot.
But why? Why?
Why? So I started filming because I have trauma
and why the fuck am I being asked to leave dancing?
And it was his boss.
And then I went to it was the guy that I snubbed.
He was and I could tell from his bulbous red nose.
He drinks.
He has money and went up to him.
He took my touch to me.
You can't touch me.
Took my phone or raced the footage.
And yeah.
And you can go to your recently deleted.
I can.
Yeah.
I don't know how long ago it was,
but if it was recent, you can probably still get it.
I think within.
I didn't even know there was.
Oh, it's been three weeks.
Uh, it might be too long.
But yeah, in the future, you can go to your recent.
But the boy at the end, it took me down and he goes,
I'm just doing my job.
But I said, you're not doing your job as a human
because you know that I did nothing.
And I was just dancing and let's just be.
Oh, your ego got snubbed and you have the money
so you can touch me, delete my footage.
And then the police is like he was it's on private property.
You know, what's the big deal?
Just be assaulted.
Right.
So people are now I'm just doing my job.
I'm just following the policies,
but are they doing their job as a human being?
I would say no, no, because that's how we got into this
Rona regime.
And the guy was the boy.
So now Germany happened too, right?
Exactly.
No, no, I was just following orders.
I'm just doing my job.
Yeah.
I'm just exterminating all group of people
because yeah, I'm just following order.
Right.
And not so it's it's to be, you know, I have these QR codes.
I don't like this transhumanist agenda.
I'm I'm bitter to even have to put QR codes.
When I go to, let's say, there's a spiritual static dance
and all the spiritual people are all vaccinated.
They're all have their QR codes.
They don't even know that they're doing this no cash
for what's coming.
They don't see the bigger picture,
but they're spiritual, right?
So you had asked me if they were like on anything.
And now I don't know specifically with Bailey and Blavatsky,
but I will say that that is a very common theme
with these ancient mystery religions.
And they're now using technology to mimic.
So like Peter Thiel's Prospera, they're using
all sorts of technology to mimic trips,
like, you know, like an acid trip or a shirming trip.
Yes.
And so you don't even you put on like a headset
and you can have that experience.
But if you look through the history
of the ancient mystery religions, it's part of why
and Huxley wrote about this quite extensively
in, you know, his doors of perception.
But, you know, Wells actually did as well.
I would say a lot of them did,
but they talk about in the ancient mystery religions
how it was through these types of ecstatic experiences.
So whether any kind of like a psychedelic,
whether it be ayahuasca, shirming, you know, the acid,
these types of experiences would give them the illusion
of having a transcendent, you know, religious kind of an experience.
Most of the time it was a way of convincing them
that, you know, we're all one.
In fact, a lot of people have that experience
when they're on it, right?
They think of like this, the one, the source, we're all one.
To the point that I'm allergic to that notion of we are all one.
And when I was in, and when I was in LA, I went to the,
it's called the California School of Psychic School,
and they taught us how to put down roses for protection,
which I guess may be from persecution,
but they did say in part, like, you're not all one.
You're you.
And not to blend all, and it's like,
you're the world, it's all a little offense.
There's that, that gets into stuff that's a little bit more,
it's definitely nuanced, it's a whole rabbit hole,
but there's like left hand path magic
and right hand path magic.
So left hand path is, you know, more focused on,
people could say it would be reductionistic
to make it like Luciferian and the Satanistic,
but loosely you could kind of say that.
The left hand path tends to be much more aligned
with like radical individualism.
So it's not individual like free will.
You know, again, this is more of like a Crowley
and like the lemma do without will.
It's a, you become your own God
is that radical kind of individualism.
Whereas the right hand path tends to be more aligned
with, they call it harmonization.
So it is this a unity kind of concept
where we all become one and that's how we become God.
We become God because we're all one and God is one.
So it is a very like pantheistic.
It's a pantheistic, right?
It's all the one.
So what do you think?
What, where's the, is there a middle ground?
Because it could say, I mean, we are all,
we are all drops in a larger organism, you could say,
but I personally am allergic to even doing the wave
at a baseball game.
Not that I will ever go to a baseball game again,
but I just have an allergy of doing anything.
It's true.
I don't know why.
I get it.
I totally get it.
Well, I, I mean, I don't subscribe to either.
To me, like we are part of a, we're part of a creation, right?
So there's, to me, I do believe that there is a God.
I do believe that we are, there's a divine order.
I do believe we have free will.
I think we are individuals.
So I don't believe in, I don't believe we become God,
and I don't believe that we become one with God.
So that's kind of, it's an oversimplified way of looking at it,
but I don't believe in doing magic rituals,
whether they're left hand or right hand path.
But I don't believe that I am a God and can, you know,
architect reality, nor do I believe that I can through,
you know, some kind of a theology divine work,
which is, you know, literally what the auspy means become one with God.
I don't believe that either.
So I would say that, you know, I'm an individual,
Imago de made in the image of God.
I was given this beautiful gift of free will.
I'm very grateful for it.
I feel like one of my missions is to defend it.
And I think part of the way that we do defend it is,
you know, of course, calling out some of this deception,
but I'd really like people to, especially Americans,
because I, you know, I use my beekeeper analogy to say that
we're the beekeepers for the free will of humanity.
And, you know, that's not to say there aren't individuals
all over the world.
I always differentiate individuals from a group
because we are individual and we are unique in every kind of way.
But I think that because of what was codified
in our founding documents is this,
it's a metaphysical concept of being endowed
with free will, inalienable rights,
being part of a divine order, you know,
part of a creation from the creator.
And he's the one who gives us the inalienable rights,
not government, not some other authority,
and that we are not the architects of reality, right?
Reality exists outside of a, you know, as silly as it sounds,
but there's a wall right over there
on the other side of the camera.
And if I want to run really fast,
I need to be prepared and if I don't slow down,
I'm going to be smacked by the wall.
That's just a fact.
It's part of life.
And, you know, I think that ignorance is bliss
until reality smacks you in the face,
but it always smacks you in the face eventually.
So, and we don't design it, right?
It exists outside of us.
So, yeah, I mean, that's kind of what I believe.
And so I really think that the most important
for us to defend the free will
is because otherwise we are just going to become subsumed
into this technocratic transhumanist order.
Yeah, I can't even join them.
I'm kidding.
Yeah, yeah.
I really am kidding, but...
I'm not joining.
I'm going to go find my little...
...to be relegated to the savage lands.
I don't know if you saw the remake
of Brave New World on Peacock.
I did not.
No.
It's pretty, it's pretty damn good, actually.
What is it?
I really love Peacock.
I mean, I, you know, I don't love it.
What a portent.
This is a take-off.
This is a play on...
So it's modernized with the AI.
She says, can you pull up the...
Can you find the trailer to show Courtney?
And then Courtney, I'll stay on to do some housekeeping.
And I'm still...
Which trailer?
Brave New World.
If you do Brave New World, Peacock.
It's a good trailer.
We'll show it to Courtney and folks watching.
I'm, you know, been exploring quantum physics and quantum.
And I mean, I do believe we create our reality
based on our beliefs and that we can recreate things
if we don't learn our lessons.
So I'm playing with that, Jen.
I don't believe we create our reality.
I think, you know, we, we have free will.
We can certainly, we have like control over our actions, right?
So, and our actions have consequences.
So I certainly believe that...
Yes, they do.
Our actions have consequences.
And I think that's very real.
But I think reality exists outside of us.
No. Yeah.
So tell people where...
Oh, you found the cheese slice?
Nah.
Yeah, let's show it.
On the same channel.
Papasoma!
This is New London.
Everyone's happy here.
Everyone has a place.
There's no hunger, no violence.
There's no pain there, John.
Everyone fits.
I've always wanted that for you.
This is your home now.
All you have to do is connect.
It belongs to everyone else.
You're never alone here.
Everyone's connected.
You know, I've been watching you people.
But this place is so perfect.
Why is it upside down?
There's a disruption.
I just can't seem to get back to myself.
The virus enters a cell,
turning the body against itself.
We need to stop this before this goes too far.
We're at the beginning of something.
Something necessary.
If you're not happy, you're nothing at all.
So he's in the savage lands
and he gets to go.
And because of, you know,
they're all feeling something,
but Papasoma can't feel anything.
So he kind of disrupts everything
and including the AI that's running everything.
It's very well-made.
Very well-made.
Top-provoking things.
So yeah, it's on Peacock.
Same channel that smeared me on Shadowland.
Yeah, same.
Okay, Courtney, tell people where they can find you,
where they can get the book.
And I would love to have you on again
when I read the book.
Yeah, I would love that.
So you can find me at CourtneyTurner.com.
I spell my name like Courtney.
It is pronounced Courtney, but it's C-O-U-R-T-E-N-A-Y.
T-U-R-N-E-R.com.
And if you want to read the article
where I talk about the Centennial Conclave
and I draw the parallel to all of the globalist organizations
that were having their meetings right around that time,
yeah, 2025 Centennial Conclave Unmasking Lucius Trust
Century Long Agenda for Global Transformation.
And this was the last one.
They started in 1425.
So that's kind of a long run.
It shows you these kind of people.
I'm going to look at it.
I should have looked at it before.
I have a lot of quotes.
Actually, there are a few shows that have actually
done shows on my article.
And one I just saw recently, it was like a two-hour show.
They read the whole article in the show.
Yeah, they did a great job.
They're, I think, a Protestant,
but both of them come from a new age
and Hollywood background.
And so it was very interesting to hear their take.
I didn't love that they complete some of the,
like, you know, Protestants
this again, this inviting between the theologies.
They have a lot of beef with each other.
And so they were very disparaging to Catholicism
equating it with Bailey's agenda.
And I would just say that traditional Catholicism,
they're different than, you know,
some of the more kind of, you know,
they would call it like the woke kind of Vatican II agenda.
But it's definitely not the same.
But again, I already gave you my viewpoint
on the theological debates.
I'm not interested.
I'm only interested in the metaphysics
from a perspective of defending free will really.
So, but this is their agenda.
It was pretty extensive.
And my sub stack is Courtney, Courtney Turner,
that sub stack.com.
So pretty much the same place.
And my book right now,
it's on Patrick Wood's website, technocracy.news.
But we will have it up on Amazon either Saturday or Monday.
And it's called the final betrayal.
So yeah, I'll give you the link when I have that.
Okay, Courtney, thank you.
Thank you for being on.
I'll put this in my sub stack.
I'm doing a little thing.
So we can cross, cross promote
because I definitely don't get, I saw all your sub stacks.
I'm so fucking censored.
So I'm going to, I'm going to ask people who watch the show,
please join my sub stack and just press restack.
Just restack.
I know, I need to be able to feed myself.
I know, I know.
Where I'm really getting
for missing vote.
I put out to, well, I'm about to put out the second PSA,
but my first PSA was about like,
people reach out to me to help them write bills all the time.
And I used to do it just because I believe what they're doing.
And I want, I'm like, I don't have this.
Like if you want that kind of consultancy,
you're going to have to hire me.
I just,
people call me all the time to ask me for health,
like my tuition, like you need to pay me.
I can't do this anymore.
I have risked a lot for other people
to stand for your medical freedom.
You're welcome.
And now my, my livelihood is being severely
messed with for my George Floyd book as well.
So.
Which is so good.
Yeah.
Such good work.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
So can we show, can we show any links of Courtney?
She says, and I'll stay on for a little bit
and bring up honey colony.
Yeah.
Oh, what are you showing us?
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah.
There's the Trident.
Yep.
It's Lucia's trust.
It's the Trident.
Is that Bailey on the right?
Bailey is on the right and Blavatsky is on the left.
Yep.
Yeah.
She looks, Madame Blavatsky looks like she definitely
wielded a Ouija border too in her lifetime.
She does.
Bailey does too.
So does Basant.
They're, you can, you can see it.
They're, I, if you believe in demonic possession,
I would say that they're, they might be close.
Yeah.
The accosting, the assault that occurred happened on a full moon
and I realized that the day I was arrested on the bright line
was also on a full moon.
Their Weesack festival is on the full moon.
That's a, yes.
So there, that's a moon worship, right?
So this was a, I think this was my very first radio hour
that I did.
Right.
And the New World Order.
And this is where we get the New World Order, right?
This concept was actually outlined by Alice Bailey
in her externalization of the hierarchy.
She lays out the intensive plan for the New World Order.
Yeah.
I'd like to listen to that one.
What day is that?
What days?
Are you able to send me that one?
Yeah.
Or she says, if you have that, can you put it in the chat?
And I will bring up my substack.
I did it on, on the false memory
foundation.
Yeah.
I haven't gotten cancer yet.
I look really interesting.
I'm familiar.
Yeah.
False memory syndrome.
The fact that they, they shut it down December 31st, 2019
is quite wild.
Got a pandemic to unfurl.
Yeah.
It won't really, it won't really matter to,
to gaslight children of their memories is quite.
It's wild.
It's just wild.
Yes.
I agree.
But it's really covering up a whole industry of,
of corruption and child abuse.
Yeah.
Those were, those were women that we showed you.
Madame Blivox.
I know.
And they are, they look like that.
Yeah.
It was really covering up a lot of,
say Channing for Tural Abuse.
Yeah.
It's crazy that you can, you know,
you get an official to write some paper,
gaslight someone, and then that's what I could say.
Put enough stickers on the ground to create a pandemic.
I guess so.
Yeah.
No.
Because if, if everybody's saying the lies over and over again,
I'll put it on the stage.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
Cool.
I'll have to read it.
Yeah.
She does look like a dude.
We know that.
Yes.
She looks like a dude.
A footage of women who, who look like dudes out there.
It doesn't, it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
And then I wrote a piece on, on Aria Stark,
because I, I definitely resonate with Aria.
She's the underdog who goes through the girl with no name training,
which is equivalent to being, you know, losing your name
and not be able to be a journalist anymore.
So it's an ego death, but Aria never forgets.
And she does take out the white walkers in the end.
So I would, yeah, anyone who is on, on Substack,
it really makes a difference to like, to share.
And I am trying to get some donations to be able to pay my rent,
because I can't tell you how many people like,
Oh, I tried to buy your book, but my bank denied it.
And, or they're like, Oh, I got it from Amazon.
But yeah, I'm not on Amazon.
And I haven't received one check yet from, from there.
So I don't know what the accounting is.
Or then people are like, why is it so expensive?
You can never pay me enough money for five years
and my livelihood that I risked.
You know, we're coming onto the second year anniversary
of Derek Chauvin being shanked.
And we still don't know the status of Derek, do we?
I do, but I don't.
Yeah.
Well, he's, he's using a shit bag and he's paralyzed, Courtney.
Is he?
Yeah.
When I said the informant read my book.
Right.
And he said, I'm a B, RSPCT.
And I said, so were you socially engineered?
He's like, you could say that.
I said, is Derek even alive?
And he said, they told me to keep him alive.
Oh, okay.
So is any, is any conservative going to have me on
if they're peddling this free Derek Chauvin movement?
No.
Oh, wow.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
None of them are like, oh, there's a movement to free Derek.
But why isn't any of us talking about the status of Derek
after getting stabbed?
And here we are two years later.
And nobody knows the status of Derek,
but we'll put on Liz Collins to sit with Janelle,
you know, like of American thought leaders.
Yeah.
She's an Emmy Award.
She's married to Lieutenant Kroll.
She's playing me.
She's playing the role of a journal.
Right, right.
She's not an alternative.
She's in the fucking system.
System.
Yeah.
We never get the story.
It's just like we're never getting an Epstein list.
We're not going to know what actually happened to Charlie Kirk.
You know, they just build these kind of Messiah type figures
that are very instrumental in creating chaos, division,
you know, fomenting team sports.
Yeah.
And then drip, drip, drip.
New information, new information.
Let's get this.
Let's keep this going, right?
But then the people who are close,
because I know firsthand,
I've seen how they've treated instead of having,
you know, certain people get to say the truth.
Like, you know, whoever showed me the Tucker,
you know, the Tucker Coulson.
Tucker Coulson's family was in intelligence.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now he's, he's-
Voice of America.
Yeah.
And now that human is making a laugh,
he gets positioned as having access to these conversations.
It's all a bullshit.
He's not disseminating truth.
He's steering narratives.
Yeah.
That's a very good way to say it.
Steering narratives, not disclosing truth.
Yeah.
And these aren't like authentic,
kind of like, you know, truth revelations.
These are narrative steering conversations,
you know, framed in very entertaining kind of format.
I mean, just look at what,
what did the intellectual dark web do?
Right.
Yeah.
And, and, well, they caused,
I mean, I don't know what happened to Sam.
What is it, Sam?
Sam Harris?
Yeah.
He went up the deep end and they again say a lot of good things.
I mean, I think Jordan Peterson has said a lot of good things and,
but it's not, it's a cherry pick that it's not within the context.
So they get to be the faces and then people think that these are the freedom fighters and,
you know, now even because I'm a heretic,
so people who are, are colleagues that are part of the Christian
they're not going to have me on, right?
That's unfortunate because it shouldn't be,
whatever, have the free will.
That's the whole, that's the whole point.
You don't have to agree with me.
I'm sharing what I believe to be true based upon,
you know, what I've discerned and what the information that I've read and collected and,
you know, the, the time that I've spent with it,
you know, that, that doesn't mean that people can't disagree with me and that doesn't mean they
can't bring, you know, different information for it.
Then I think through the conversation, through genuine discourse, you know, that,
and it's for audience, right?
If they're having that conversation,
other people can use their discernment.
They don't have to agree with me.
They don't have to agree with you.
They don't have to agree with either of us.
Because I were both, you know, totally wrong and they have a different perspective altogether.
And I respect that.
I still think that, you know, it's my, I think it's my responsibility,
it's my duty to share what I believe to be true.
So, right.
But it's, you see who's really devoted to the truth and nothing but the truth.
And people all have their blind spots.
I mean, I've met every intelligent doctor, but then you're a Scientologist or,
you know, I've actually made it a point since a very young age to see my own blind spots.
Sure.
So, to know.
We're never going to be impervious to blind spots.
We can't see everything.
We can't know it.
Right.
But if someone, if you're dedicated to the truth or to your own growth,
then you're not, you know, you're open, you're subject to change or to say,
oh, yeah, thanks for, thanks for showing me that or I didn't.
But, but when it comes to religion, I think, you know, the people will,
I've spoken to Christians who have said, oh, the Kundalini is demonic.
It was demonic.
Or, and no, it was not demonic.
It was not demonic.
They want you to, or like there's the Christians, like I've said earlier,
you know, don't astrology is, is the devil.
But it's, you don't understand the bigger, the bigger story of how it came for you to
believe that when it's, it's specific and purposeful and premeditated for you to come
to that conclusion.
I think with yoga, a lot of the issue is, again, it's about the worship.
Right.
So a lot of yoga practice is actually a worshiping, like there's sun worship in yoga.
You're worshiping idols and not God.
Right.
You're, it's a pagan worship.
And that's the issue that Christians have with it.
I mean, there's nothing that explicitly says like doing a pose is somehow demonic.
I didn't even know that Christians are, or there's Christians that are offended by yoga.
Yeah.
Kundalini is, is a form of yoga.
Oh, I meant the actual Kundalini, having a Kundalini.
Yoga is a, it's a pagan worship.
So that's, that's the, that's where the disconnect is.
So Christians have issue with worshiping idols.
So if you're a pagan worship is.
I mean, and they sent Yogananda to America to see, bring.
Well, it's just like, I don't know how familiar you are with the changing images man document.
This is, okay.
So Stanford research, I have an article I'm working on.
I'm so behind on so many things, but it will be out.
But the, I'm drawing the document and to the cosmorodic humanism document that we have now,
that, you know, the members of the game B community have written,
which it looks like it's a blueprint for the club room.
I mean, it's not officially, but it kind of looks that way.
But the, that document was written by Stanford research Institute.
It's used as like a textbook for the elite.
But it's a, it was actually a government funded research project.
And Stanford research Institute, Willis Harmon, who was the chairman of the Institute for
Noetic Sciences for two decades.
O.W. Markley, who did a lot of those remote viewing exercises, also in conjunction with
the government in part, part of like a project star, you know, the original CIA star.
Yeah, I know you're familiar.
You've written on this.
So they did this.
It's a very extensive, the book, I've read the PDF, I've covered it many times on my show,
and I am going to do another kind of more deep dive article on it.
But it's about 250 pages, but it's a very expensive book.
If you wanted to buy it online, they do have a free PDF.
That's right, people's books are expensive books are real.
That's why $66 and 66 cents, you can take my book in the future and you can
sell it for more.
I promise you.
Yeah, I definitely.
Yeah, our book is much cheaper.
It's a very thin book.
Patrick really wanted it to be like, you know, for the masses.
He said people don't read and he wants to just get it out as like a warning.
So it's, you know, like 150 pages and it gets retailing for just under $25.
But it's this book, the cheapest I found it is $300, which is still pretty
expensive and I found it for much, much more.
I don't personally have a copy, but I've printed out a copy of PDF.
What's it called again?
It's called the changing images of man.
But the reason I bring it up is the whole.
Yeah, I have talked to you about this.
I always find it really interesting that it started.
So it was finally published in 1984.
However, it was they were working on it in the 70s, like around the first
edition was actually in 1972.
And I just always found this really interesting that Bertha Maslow
who was the wife of Abraham Maslow actually brought posthumously,
like Maslow's works on politics three to Willis Harmon.
And it was in 1971 that they published it.
Willis Harmon and Robert Cantor, but it was around the same time
that they were working on this changing images of man document.
But the politics three is actually very, there's a lot of overlap.
And he talks about holistic politics.
He talks about like the Eubsichian network.
Eubsichian is a concept against it.
This is very spiritual evolution, right?
It says spiritual eugenics, essentially.
But a lot of people know Maslow for his hierarchy of needs.
But he actually, you know, that wasn't really the primary focus for him.
He really wanted to talk about being values.
He called them be values for short.
But it was the idea that people who were evolved
would be part of this Eubsichian network
where they could focus on the really important things
like religion and politics and, you know, shaping the world.
And these were the elite who could do that.
And Barbara Marks Hubbard actually said that meeting him was, you know,
like one of these changing moments in her life
because she learned about Eubsichian networking
and it was better than sex.
And she called it suprasex.
But she was quite the character.
But he, so this politics three was right around the time
when they were doing this changing images man.
And changing images man was all about changing man's consciousness.
So changing his perception of himself.
But it's very akin to what Bailey was talking about.
They talk about bringing in like the Eastern religions,
bringing in things like yoga.
They talk about all of these various archetypes all over the world
and how they're going to use essentially cherry pick
from these kind of, you know, mystery religions
in order to create the one moral religion.
But that it required and they're going to use drugs like ayahuasca
and there's an ayahuasca religion in the world parliament of religions
that works with the UN, right?
It's consultancy of the UN.
The De Monte, the, yeah.
Anyway, yes.
They talk about how they're going to use all these types of drugs
to help bring about this one moral religion,
but that it requires man's changing his perception of himself to do it.
But it is exactly the same kind of stuff that you see from Alice Bailey
because, you know, it's not new at all.
But yeah, that was a lot of, Joseph Campbell was part of that research as well.
They took his kind of concepts on like mythology and to slow fast creep
because it's ultimately to confuse humans on their past
and to use them in the larger hive mind.
Yeah.
And they talk about like transhuman kind of like merging organic and inorganic life.
They talk about that in changing human.
Talk about like nano type technology.
I mean, they didn't necessarily use that term, but yeah.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Okay.
I'm going to do some housekeeping.
So I'll say, I'll say goodbye, Courtney.
Thank you for your brains and thank you, genius.
Thank you.
Oh, it's so fun.
All right.
Thank you.
Bye.
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I put in the QR codes.
It's very difficult for me to ask people to for help, but I need help.
And I used to get paid $2 a word.
I'm one of the best journalists in this country.
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Yeah.
I'm about yeah.
I don't know how to ask for help.
I need help.
I think I think if you're watching on a browser, you can scan the QR code with your cell phone.
I'm not sure how you do it if you're watching on your cell phone.
I guess you can do a screen capture and then load that image into a QR scanner app.
Yeah.
I know last week there were people who use Litecoin and only Litecoin.
Lisa got in Litecoin from her in the past, but I'm looking to see what the coupon is.
But yeah, these are your big is that Bitcoin and Litecoin
QR codes for people to donate to Merriam.
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If you're watching this on a browser on your computer.
I think I think you have to take a screenshot of that and then load it into a QR program.
If you're using a screenshot or or scan it.
Well, if you're watching this on your phone and your phone is the device that you use to scan
it, you can't scan something you're watching.
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I think that's how it works.
But if you're watching this on a like a computer browser, you can just use your phone to scan it.
Okay.
Those are the two QR codes on the screen right now.
And they've been up on the screen for a good portion of today's show.
And thank you.
She says you rock.
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Not everything is I am not driven by money, but and I've been working since the age of 13.
I'm a very intelligent, hardworking woman with integrity, honesty.
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I'm real.
I wasn't sent away to rehab and groomed and given a haircut.
And now the face of Christianity for the conservative right.
I'm real.
What can I say?
So I would love to keep this show going and every little bit counts.
I believe in abundance.
I know that we're all being squeezed.
It's a little bit more difficult when you're on a government shit list.
And they're fucking with you.
And she's been working with me for two years.
And it's not just something I'm saying like Alex Jones.
I feel so sorry for you, Alex.
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I'm not sure which ones you wanted to show.
It's, um, so these are curious.
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Yeah.
Actually, I'm going to go bring it because I just got a whole batch after four months of
OK, let me get that hollow 20.
I don't know if it's hollow 20 with a W or with that one.
So I'll put it with the W and then she can.
What is a W?
H A L L.
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I use it to.
Is that the correct code on the screen?
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Why not?
What is it?
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I don't know this product.
I guess, you know, people are having sex because it sells.
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So anything on honey colony that doesn't support Miriam directly goes to honey colony.
But if you want to support me and cheese slice,
every little bit counts.
So I say in her six week lifespan,
a honey bee will only make a quarter of a teaspoon of honey.
So next time you look at a jar, remember every little drop counts and to practice
abundance, being abundance and not fear and to pay it forward.
Yeah, so we can continue doing this.
So thank you people for watching.
I hope that your mind was provoked.
I don't know.
Yes.
Do you want to watch the fake commercial?
It's funny.
It's a comedy.
Sure, show me the fake.
Okay, let me bring it up here.
It's along the lines of like vaginal stuff or it's just a spring on the vaginal stuff.
Bring it on.
Go see.
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And so what is that an old commercial?
It's a fake commercial from the 70s for a product called sweet fish.
Yeah, that's nice.
I'm assuming it's fake.
I assume that's fake.
I'm sure it's fake.
Okay, well, on that note folks on the sweet fish note, have an awesome weekend.
We're looking at another full moon intensity.
Oh, I wanted to ask Courtney about 3i Atlas because it's just so great.
Is it the full moon tonight?
No, no.
The full moon is on November 5th.
Oh, that would have been epic.
Full moon on Halloween.
No, it's not the full moon yet.
And yeah, while she slice someone says thank you guys for watching.
Well, I didn't make it.
I ran across that on Twitter and I just it made me laugh.
So it seems to be relevant to what you're talking about.
Happy Halloween everyone.
Be in your hearts.
Be kind.
I do think that personally God works through you that you can tap into your inner divinity
and your inner knowing it is a time of remembering.
But one has to go deep within.
And if you want to work with me, I have slots in November.
You can go to MiriamHinnane.com and I've been doing some sole purpose
consults mixing it with my functional medicine coaching because
just will say I'm the youngest 52 year old wherever I go.
That's for sure.
Most of the times no offense to the jib jab, but I'm the most alive.
I just like if I go to Pilates classic, if there's music, I'm dancing.
I'm moving.
I just like yeah, people are a little subdued.
So anyway, be safe today.
I'm doing a hello 20 is because I'm promoting detox, not sugar.
And I think, you know, I was talking to Danny Katz
because we both do coffee enemas.
And one of the reasons that Jeff Burwick wasn't able to because it would make me money.
They don't they want me poor.
Who's they the system?
So and also there's so much cover up about coffee enemas.
So there must be truth because it is a is it is a relatively cheap effective way
to get the coffee to get the detox, the crap, the poisons out.
And they've done a really good job of scrubbing the internet of anything to do with enemas.
So that means there's truth there.
So I've
I'm going to show you this.
I just saw this and we have this.
So now there's QR codes for that's for honey colony.
Really?
Yeah.
And so I could probably plug where did you get it from?
I just saw that it's something they added to StreamYard.
So that this is a this is a QR code you could scan to go to substack.
And this one you could hold on.
And this one will take you to honey colony.
So how does it notice you QR codes for my website?
Well, I had to plug it in.
But once I did.
So now those two things will work for that.
But I can't put them both up on the same screen at the same time.
And it doesn't tell you what they are.
So I mean, but that's what it is.
That's the honey colony QR code that's up on the screen right now.
But I prefer those these that I did.
Thank you.
So that's the L's for Litecoin and the B is for Bitcoin.
Thank you.
Thank you, everyone.
Thank you for choosing to watch the show and blessings to you.
And we'll see you next Friday.
Thanks cheese slice over and out.
Bye everyone.
Bye. Thank you.
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