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Welcome back to the deling pod
William think I can predict already even before you started that what you're going to say is going to upset
loads of people and actually upset me as well
what we're about it, but
We ought to have a recap. There was stuff we didn't cover in our last
involved
fascinating conversation
And there are various things that cropped up in the last ten minutes when I was thinking about what I was going to ask you that
I want to ask you um, but
Tell us briefly for those for those who come into you for the first time. Tell us briefly about yourself
I don't I don't really have anything to say about myself. I mean I was um, I
Was in law enforcement. I had a bad night of work. That's all I'm going to say about that
It ended me with a civil rights violation in prison for 12 years where I sat and studied
I I read the whole time. I um, I
Studied scripture, but I also studied conspiratorial history. I
Read things like the boundary view my conf. I
Read the Bible and I read
Many greek and roaming classics
studied to copious notes and
found something called
Christian identity
That I pursued because I wanted to find whether it was true
That's why I read all of the classical histories archaeology
archaeology journals books things like that and
Through the course of my studies. I was convinced that it was true
Now there's a variant
in britain called british-israel
that's been around since the middle of the 19th century
and
I believe the 1830s actually
And they're dismissed today as quacks
They weren't right about everything
but their belief came from
discoveries in archaeology
and putting together the connections
Which
would lead us to believe that we
Are the people of the scriptures that we our origins are from
misapitania and the levant
And I'm convinced of that. I'm not going to be unconvinced of it
Simply because I've studied
Oh, no, I have to admit
that
I do rather like the idea
That I am a descendant
of one of the children of one of the tribes of israel
um
and
not just
talking to you about this stuff but also
reading
I mean you must have come across
wilson and black it
Have you come I have but I haven't read their books
But I've read
articles and things which cited them
That lead me to believe that they've come to a lot of the same conclusions. I have
well
I wouldn't necessarily recommend
buying their books because the one I read
was
um, you could get the key information
from a few
From a few paragraphs a lot of it was kind of reconstructed notes rather than a kind of written through a book
which I found rather annoying
But
as I understand it
they have
traced trace the the progress
Of the children of israel or some of the tribes across
over the Caucasus
into into europe
and eventually into
britain
Via via language that they found similarities between
um
Etruscan and
Well ultimately welsh
And that that welsh and hebrew welsh has hebrew roots and they they they worked out that therefore it must mean that
and also
They also the interest that the the interesting part was they were able to
decipher
Hieroglyphs
using
Welsh words
using the welsh
so so for example you might get a picture of a a sheaf of wheat
and
They whatever the whatever the word for the welsh word the sheaf of wheat is
They then you put that letter in and and and it could tell them the name of the person buried buried there or or what was going on
And it was it was quite a persuasive theory. I I
Haven't studied it studied it in depth
But I mean you've you you've found other
Reasons to to believe that this is so haven't you I mean you've you've well not least the
historians who talk about the
Do you pronounce them schittians? Is it sithians or schittians?
I pronounce it schittians, but I'm truly an idiot
Ah
If you understand the root of the word idiot is the greek word idiotes
And it simply means one who's studied privately
Oh, well, yes
So I tend to mispronounce some words
Because I never paid attention to what they're saying in universities
I think we should all aspire to being idiots in that case
Yeah, right
No brainwashing no indoctrination
I mean it's possible to brainwash yourself
It is
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean look I doubt I doubt we're gonna end this this chat
Any the wiser but we might have thrown up a few ideas that will be quite interesting to to explore so
Yeah, I do like the idea that I am sent from the children of Israel. What what by the way, what tribe would I be?
Would you say we can't know
We can't know
We can't know and and people that believe the things that I do they try to assign tribes to various nations
But we really can't know because we we are truly
all mixed up as as far as um
The tribes that emerged
From the from iron age misopotamia
that they
warfare and and migration and and
subsumption of weaker tribes or sometimes destruction of weaker tribes. It's in in the
very
complex history of europe
Those tribes are all mixed up the galatahi came out of
Asia
they didn't come from the west that the
They're called Celts, but there are different groups that are lumped together as Celts
And the first Celts in my opinion
That there were other people in southern europe along the Mediterranean coasts
And the bible identifies them as jepethites all the way to iberia
And that's fine, but iberia is from a hebu word
and
The Phoenicians the ships of tarshish were in iberia
And the Phoenicians of tyre were actually israelites. They weren't canaanites. That's that's view is gas lighting
They were israelites. The bible proves beyond doubt that they were israelites isaiah ezekiel kings
so these Phoenicians
Made colonies all throughout the mediterranean and and
In britain and ireland and as far as i'm concerned they were the first Celts
But that's worrying william
I'm sorry
That's worrying because the Phoenicians were really baddies
I mean they were they were really into into child sacrifice and stuff
Um the Phoenicians at carthage were
I always see okay, so they were good. They were
Nasty Phoenicians and nice Phoenicians. Is that is that the deal? Well, they're
You know, there were nasty israelites and nice israelites that there were
That there were the israelites at a judges period were still basically keeping the law
And the israelites at a later kingdom period have been corrupted
with the ways of the canaanites
Carthage was one of the later settlements of the Phoenicians
How was it?
Yes, carthage wasn't settled until the ninth century
bc bc
Where most of the Phoenician settlements were were settled a little earlier
But they traded that they had trade
With britain a herodotus wrote about the Phoenician tin trade
And he didn't really understand the source of their tin
Recently and and Strabo
Had described it in a manner that it could be identified with the skilly islands and cornwall
Silly they're pronounced silly silly. Okay. Silly islands silly brits silly islands. I'm sorry
They put that sea in there, right?
So anyway
I've never been there. I'll probably never get to go. They're really nice
You should I'm sure
They've got they've got a fantastic microclimate. So all these these sort of
Semi tropical plants can grow there
The garden
Amazing that far north
But he had identified them as the casseter reeds with which
Casserides which basically means tin islands or something like that. So so
Only recently very recently
archaeologists have have discovered
A way to identify the source of certain metals
And they've clarified that
Tin ingots found in a wreckage off of the coast of israel palestine
Dating to the Phoenician period came from cornwall
The tin came from cornwall
But I've been saying this for 20 years
Not from any knowledge of tin
But from history
That the tin was coming from cornwall
Now in order to make tin ingots
You need a pretty large settlement of people
To support their their their being mined and smelted the the ore has to be smelted and and
Poured into ingots that that takes a sizable colony of people
You can't do that with just a few sailors jump it off a boat
And digging up some tin and bringing back ingots
You need a settlement and they I believe that they would have first tells they had those settlements
The connections in the language
between gaelic and hebrew and gothic and anglo-saxon and
latin
Bask that these that this I just rattled off basically the title of a book written by
alison emory drake
And he was a phd. He he's not a lightweight. He was an academic scholar
And he wrote that book and published it in 1907
And I know that there are older books than that on the same subject
So this has been it it's not anything that wilson and blackett just pulled out of thin air
Right, okay. So what there are there are connections between old old hebrew no long no longer exists does it you can't find it anywhere
Old that these modern jews speak yiddish
They don't speak hebrew they call it hebrew. They put up a facade, but it's really a highly
evolved and and more or less bastardized language
That is not the old hebrew of the israelites or anybody in ancient times
it it's um
I could criticize the way that they speak, but I won't
modern hebrew is based on
rabbinical val points that made a lot of
actual innovations in the language
And even biblical scholarship understands the language through
The lens of those those rabbis those medieval talmudic rabbis that I try to strip away when I study
Scripture and examine hebrew
I could read greek point greek fairly well
I taught myself while I was in prison
But I never really learned to read hebrew
I'm reluctant of the sources
All the sources are judaized, but I do study the language a lot here
In relation to my biblical commentaries and things like that
On my own because I'm an idiot, right?
What is
Old hebrew left
What's the what's the oldest
Hebrew that we can find
the oldest hebrew are are just
A few inscriptions we we do have inscriptions that existed
That evidently are free date the Babylonian destruction to the first temple and we have bull day and things like that
The silver scrolls they're called
What were a um discovered?
dug out of the ground near Jerusalem
and things like that verify
The biblical accounts for us
But the actual hebu language as far as I know the oldest manuscripts of it are the dead sea scrolls
And what when do they date from?
There might be some scrolls that are older
But the sectarian scrolls sound among the dead sea scrolls
Proved to me beyond doubt that they were kept
By a sect in Judea
Not essenes. Everybody believes they were essenes. They weren't essenes at all
They were probably the sect the fourth sect of Judea
which Josephus describes as the sect of Judas the Galilean and
They were very hostile to Rome
And the dead sea scrolls
Are very hostile the sectarian literature in the dead sea scrolls are very hostile to Rome
And I would identify the authors or the keepers of the dead sea scrolls as that sect of Judas the Galilean
At least until better information comes along which may never happen
so
Because they were anti-roman
They must have written a sectarian literature between
The the roman conquest of judea which began in 63 bc
And the judean rebellion against Rome which began in 65 ad
I would date the dead sea scrolls to that period
But individual manuscripts might be older than that because they were kept
That they weren't necessarily created
By that sect that they were copies that were kept by the sect
But so that means I mean the bible the old testament is much older than that
so so
There's no there's no literature in Hebrew. All you've got is is a few inscriptions and that's it
so
So there's no really old version of the bible
But before I mean, it's the sexual
There's not there's not the oldest thing we've got. Yes
And that's greek
Yes
Right. Yes, that's it
And that he wrote the language
Was it it was sort of reconstructed it was it was invented. When was it invented?
Okay
The Hebrew wasn't invented
And what I'm about to say is highly contrary to mainstream academia, but I don't care. Okay
The Akkadian empire in the middle of the third millennium bc
I'm saying like
2400 2300 bc or thereabouts
Akkad became an empire
And we see
A precursor to that in the empire of nimrod, which was centered in akkad in genesis chapter 10
So the akkadian empire
Of sargon the first sargon the great he's called
Was imposing its language upon all of the subject nations
That they came to rule over during the corseter empire
So that akkadian became the
lingua franca the language of trade and diplomacy
Throughout the misopotamian and and the world of misopotamia and the levante and even in the anatalia
Even the canaanites the hitites in anatalia had had done their
correspondence in trade in akkadian
The entire world at that time was speaking reading writing akkadian
With a couple of exceptions the persians resisted it and the egyptians resisted it and never
They did do diplomacy in akkadian when they were dealing with
People in misopotamia, but it was evidently very limited because there were very few samples surviving
So persia resisted it the persians wouldn't speak akkadian
At least as their everyday language. They wouldn't accept it
But all of the the smaller and weaker tribes in the levante misopotamia
Ended up speaking dialects of akkadian
That this the assyrian language is called akkadian by scholars today
Now I don't know if that's
An ideal label for it, but it's the best akkadian that we have surviving right the best examples of it
and hebrew
and aramaic
and
Several of the languages in ethiopia
There's three dialects. I think I can't name them off the top of my head, but I know they're there
And several other nations
Languages are just derivatives or dialects of ancient akkadian
So this idea of submitted languages is is a farce. It's a lie
They're all dialects of akkadian
So
We all know what the hero alphabet looks like. How does that compare with
the akkadian
Alphabet the original hebrew alphabet
Yeah, was the Phoenician script
Oh, okay
There was no difference
There may have been minor petty regional differences
But the Phoenician script was the original hebrew alphabet
These hebrew block letters that we see now
They started to be used
Ah
By certain sub elements of the judaians
Probably in the third century bc
But they didn't completely supplant the original script until the end of the first century ad
D
The coins of of the hasmonians
And later kings and I believe the herodians also
Had inscriptions with the original hebrew script not these block letters
Right
I'm gonna have to after this this this chant. I'm gonna have to look at what Phoenician looks like
Is
Alphabet is from the Phoenician the roman alphabet is from the Phoenician
They're all direct
Descendants of the Phoenician script
Okay
um
Well, so why
In the second century bc did this sort of certain areas started using this block this block thing
I I can't prove anything in this aspect
But
The block letters seem to have become popular
At the same time that the judaians were conquering the edomites and converting them to judaism
Right
Now I can't make a direct connection. I can't there's no records
but
After the the ministry of christ
When
According to the the scripture itself in the book of acts
When thousands and tens of thousands of judaians became christians
And lost their identity as judaians
The the principal people that remained were edomites
And they maintain those block letters that block letter alphabet
But I can't prove a direct connection between that the edomites did
I believe so, okay
so, um
This is I I hope we can somehow connect these at these these trains of thought but
When I read my bible, um my my old testament
um
I encounter lots and lots of
different
Different tribes that that the the children of israel are pitted against at various points. So there's the phyllis phyllis dines
There's the there's the moabites. There's there's canaanites. There's um
Amalek whoever amalek are um
Who is the is there a worst of the worst with the moabites the worst
It it's
It's difficult to to determine who were the most
depraved
right
It it is difficult but the canaanites
If we if we study um
Genesis chapter 15
And there's a list of tribes there that inhabit the land of canaan
And in several groups which have no descent from Noah
Whose sons and the nations that are of his sons are listed in Genesis chapter 10
So we get to Genesis chapter 15 and we see these strength people
And we can only wonder where they came from
And archaeologists and bibles scholars if you want to call them that
I'm very critical right that they make excuses. Oh, this word really just means villagers
They lived in villages
Well, no, they didn't because they lived in the mountains also and they still had the same name
Oh, this isn't an a locative name. It has to be an ethnonym
The rethane
Who is actually wanted a nephilim and the nephilim the word nephilim means fallen ones
Genesis chapter 6 there were nephilim
Giants it's translated generally which I don't agree with
there were
Nephilim in the earth in those days meaning they were already there before the flood
They were already there when adam was created
And afterward
Do they began how do we know that the nephilim were there before adam was created?
Well, because the fallen angels are identified with the serpent
That old serpent in revelation chapter 12
Right
And that serpent that old serpent was already in the garden of Eden before adam was created
Okay, but so these are nephilim these are fallen angels
Who are by you in your estimation were there before adam appeared?
But they couldn't possibly have
Gred with humans because humans hadn't existed at that time
I don't
I don't think that the angels fell out of the sky
Okay
I think that they were an older race that was here
That was at one time in the good graces of god and somehow corrupted themselves and that's how they fell
Interesting this is I mean this is where we
Did
I mean
It's quite speculative, isn't it because there ain't much
It is absolutely, but there isn't a lot of information
however
The archaeological record supports what i'm saying
That there are older races of men here is is without a doubt the creation of adam in scripture
It can only be dated to maybe fifty four hundred fifty five hundred bc
Yes, okay, so
Do you think
The original the the pre-adamic civilization
Would that include things like atlantis? Do you do you think atlantis was real? I don't believe atlantis existed
Okay
Even strappo of capedosia said that playdough made it up
That he invented atlantis to promote his republic
If you compare the descriptions of atlantis with with playdough's model of government in the republic
He's from devised atlantis. He concocted the story. He's a philosopher. He's not a historian
He concocted the story
In order to support and promote the model of government found in his republic
Strabo didn't go that far, but he said that playdough invented the story
Right
And I believe he did because with all my reading I can't find an atlantis before playdough
So, um
All these
Old old cities that graham hancock talks about it on his documentaries
These are the these are the pre-adamic civilizations, are they?
I
I'm not
I'm not necessarily a fan of graham hancock. I did read his book 20 years ago. Think of prince of the gods. I think
But they are right when they point out all of these, um
Structures which are evidently far older than than we are and have been around
Older than any of our own
records a test
So I do agree with that and and yes, I would attribute those things
to a race of people that were here before us
and
Of which only remnants had existed
When our civilization began to develop
Right and the bible refers to those remnants as
Nephilim or fallen ones
And they're throughout the bible
they're found
in diverse places mentioned in scripture as late as
For the word Nephilim numbers chapter 13
So they were around for a while, right? They were in numbers chapter 13
And and of course, there's still around after that, but they're not identified by that name
After that they're identified by patronage such as
refame
or anakim
The refame of the sons of rafa and that's mentioned in chronicles, I believe the term sons of rafa
And the anakim of the sons of anak who's called the Nephilim
Right
So are these connected you must have seen these photographs of
Skull shapes and you've got the ruling classes
Over over generations having these kind of elongated
skulls
And are they descendants of the of the of the pre-ademic races of the Nephilim
We think that everybody who's not a damech
Is a descendant of of those Nephilim?
And and that includes a lot of the races that we understand in the world today
Because there's no other
There's no other explanation of their existence
Oh, that's certainly controversial and interesting. Um, so
Okay, so, um, who are you thinking I mean like
Aborigines of various kinds
Global warming is a massive con. There was no evidence whatsoever
That man-made climate change is a problem that is going to kill us that we need to amend our lifestyle
In order to deal with it. It's a non-existent problem
But how do you explain this stuff to your normie friends?
Well, I've just brought out the revised edition of my 2012 classic book
Watermelons, which captures the story of how
Some really nasty people decided to invent the global warming scare in order to
Fleece you to take away your freedoms to take away your land
It's a shocking story. I wrote it as I say in the well 2011 actually
The first edition came out and it's a snapshot of a particular era the era when
The people behind the China climate change scan got caught red-handed
Tinkering with the data
Torturing till it screamed in a scandal that I helped christen
Climategate, so I give you the background to to the skull jugglery that went on in in these seats of learning where these supposed
Experts were informing us. We've got to act now
I rumbled their their scan. I then asked the question. Okay, if it is a scan
Who's doing this and and why?
It's a good story
I I've kept the the original book pretty much as is but I've written two
New chapters one at the beginning and one at the end
Explaining how it's even worse than we thought
I think it's a I think it still stands up. I think it's it's a good read. I obviously I'm biased, but I'd recommend it
You can buy it from
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forward slash shop
But you're probably fine that might just go to my website and look for it jamesdellingpole.co.uk
And I hope it helps keep you informed and gives you the material you need to bring around all those
people who are still persuaded that
It's a disaster. We must amend our ways and appease the gods appease mother god
No, we don't it's a scam
That's certainly controversial and interesting. Um
so
okay
so
um
Who are you thinking? I mean like, uh
Aborigines um of various kinds
basically
Not gonna sound like a real racist, but racism is a
A factual reality that we have to face. It's a biological reality as well. I I know that there are many, um
politically correct people in europe and america that like to deny that race is a biological reality, but it certainly is
The word adam means to be ruddy
and
the word
Dom is blood
And that is why the word adam means to be adam means to be ruddy
or reddish
so
That being said
The genesis 10 the nations in genesis chapter 10 that are listed
Sons of jepeth sons of ham sons of sham. They weren't different colors originally
It if okay
if I was noah
and
I slept with my wife and and gave birth to a baby to look like me
That'd be fine. That's what I would expect
If I slept with her again and the baby was black
Or or yellow. There wouldn't be a third child
So
It wouldn't be third child. I'm sorry
Okay, that's my quip, but it it explains to me it demonstrates that the
The incredulity of one man and his wife
Having children of different races, which is what the the catholic churches taught since the medieval period and it's ridiculous
But the original egyptians are of ham and they were white
The original akkadians were of ham
Were of kush from ham and they were white
The original persians of ilam
were white that the
Original lidians of anitalia were shemites
I could mention that the meads were of jepeth
And they were all what we would call white or Caucasian
This idea that they were of different races is
absurd
Right. There aren't any
South american natives in the bible
There aren't any sub-saharan africans in the bible
None not even your ethiopian eunuch
There aren't any china men in the bible. It's not their book. It's the history of the
Generations of adam that were
Generations genesis chapter five verse one is tola da
And tola da in hebu means
Descent or genealogies
right
So it's the book of the genealogies of adam
of one man who's our eponymous ancestor
And that table of nations in genesis chapter 10 all descended from him
Noah was preserved
Because he was perfect in his generations
He was perfect in his tola da
Meaning that he was not mixed with the nephilim
Right that the other descendants of adam were mixing with he was perfect in his genealogies
How long is the period between adam and Noah?
How many years probably about
2200
Okay, so over that 2200 years
Loads of people apart from maybe all the people apart from Noah were busy
Interbreeding with the previous
inhabitants of the planet
That went on for at least two or three generations
Right the way it's it's described in scripture
It seems to be okay
in um
I think it's genesis. I think it's at the beginning of genesis chapter five
It's at the very end of genesis chapter four
And Seth had a son and began to call his name enos
So with the time of enos the third generation that's earlier than I that I remembered
Men began to call on the name of Yahweh
Genesis chapter four verse 26
And it's always impressed me that we usually don't call on God until we're in trouble
And it seems to me that that's what that's saying
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that that's what that's saying
And they're in trouble because they've been breeding with you
Well because the nephilim were we're pressuring them at that time and and possibly already
Taking their daughters
Yeah
Do these
nephilim these these
tenites
Kenites are the descendants of tain
And the refame are of the nephilim
And there's three or four other groups mentioned in genesis chapter 15 that aren't of Noah
in genesis chapter 14
There are people who are identified
as Zuzines
And according to the the best lexicons throngs concordants brown driver briggs and and jasenius
Zuzine means roving creatures
And not for nothing I'm gonna sound like a racist again
When I hear the word Zuzine and think of its meaning
I picture all those mexicans come on over our southern border
And bro
That's what I picture. It's an alien people
That are you don't know what to call them. They don't speak your language that they're hostile
They're just roving creatures
They didn't even have a name for them genesis chapter 14
in genesis chapter 15 is gurgoshites and kenozites and
That they don't there's several groups there that aren't found in genesis chapter 10
And the ones that are found in genesis chapter 10 are the kenozites and the kenozites were cursed
So you have these accursed people
Who are mixing with these
unidentifiable people along with the kenozites and and the the nephilim the refame
And that's why
Or at least it's for that reason that they are
Considered so so unredeemable
That they couldn't be converted they couldn't be civilized
They were just told to be wiped out
Right, right, but that um
Presumably god made the nephilim as well
But did he make the rebellion
Well, possibly he didn't but um
I mean
It does rather sort of
Convict this
Well the the understanding within christianity, which is quite widespread that this is a loving god and he made man in his image and
uh
It
It just seems intellectually inconsistent that the same character
Could previously have created this other race
Which he just
He just discarded he just
It just couldn't stand them and um got rid of them and urged them to be destroyed
We we have
Free will
God created the horse and god created
The the donkey but god didn't create the mule
If you're a cabinet maker
And i'm your apprentice
And I make the most screwed up freaking
Working for you for several years. I make the most screwed up cabinet you ever saw
The hinges rock that they door didn't close right
Are you going to take credit for having taught me to make that cabinet because that's not the cabinet you taught me to make
So whose fault is it is it mine or yours?
If you've done your best to teach me and your cabinets come out perfect
And I make this bastardized cabinet
I can't
Hey
Jane taught me how to make this
I didn't I didn't
What are you going to do you're going to take my cabinet and burn it
And maybe put me out in the street to shovel gung or something because I can't make cabinets
I'm not sure whether this makes things easier to comprehend or harder to comprehend your your this
Because it's so much easier if you think about him as the first man
Or especially you want the person
Man man
He built a city
Why do you build a city?
Why did canes say anybody that finds me will want to kill me?
That's what canes described as saying yeah in genesis chapter four
Anybody that finds me will want to kill me. Who was kane afraid of?
I
Had wondered that
The same reason he built the city all these nephilim were already there
In genesis chapter two
They are the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
It's a it's an allegory for those fallen angels that the serpent represented
Okay
Well, where at this time are the goody angels that didn't rebel?
We're not told
Where do you think they were they weren't on earth?
I can't I don't like to conjecture. I really don't
Right
Um, but they're not on the earth anymore. We know that
Not evidently not at that time
That they're not in the purview of scripture
So
Just leaping forward to the present
Do you think all the
The baddies who run the world the kind of the satanic bloodlines the
Black mobility the the level above the satanic bloodlines. I've heard about yeah recently
Are they
These are the descendants of the nephilim. Yes, absolutely
Okay
That would make sense. I mean that would a explain why they don't like us why that why they view us as sort of inferior
uh
And and be why they kind of consider themselves
Set apart because they are a different species in fact
Absolutely, but they've been
I'm I'm gonna put it allegorically. They've been drinking our blood for 7 000 years
In other words, they've been taking what they want from us
For 7 000 years
Yeah
Mostly our women
But sometimes our men
What for sort of casual sex casual homosexual?
What do you reckon do you reckon the nephilim? I mean jewish women intermarry with with non-jews all the time
And if you're a uh, if you're a jew you count your
Who's jewish through the woman? Yeah, not through the man
Contrary to the patriarchy of scripture
Yeah
Ah
Do you reckon that's connected? I mean, I've I've I've only been going down the matrilineal
rabbit hole recently
You know, you know about the theory that that's how the world has really run through matrilineal bloodlines
Because that's how
The rabbis of Judaism count who is jewish
I get that I get that detail, but we're talking about
It's not just about the jews this it's about finitions. It's about it's about
But the finitions carried with them a patriarchal society, right for the most part, right
Well, if we're going to talk about the jews, um, which I know is one of your your pet subjects
It's impossible to talk about the bible in scripture without coming to the subject of jews
And
The jews
Like if you went how many how many Zionists evangelical christians other than america, is it 20 million?
a war
20 million pre-washed americans. It's it's probably 200 million if you went if you went and asked them
About the jews. They'd say oh, yeah, we are not worthy. Um, the jews just amazing
They gots chasing people and I understand that as well and and yada yada yada and you think that
This isn't right. This is based on
Well, what is it based on when when does the word jew?
first appear
in the bible
Well, technically the word jews shouldn't appear in the bible at all
However in the english bible the king james version the word jew doesn't appear until
second kings chapter 16
I believe which chronologically, what is that?
what
the second kings chapter 16 would be like
The eighth century be the ninth century bc. I would think
Okay, so just when the Phoenicians were settling in in carthage and it might be first king 16. I want to
I want to check that
Second things 16 6
resin king of syria recovery laughed at syria and drove the jews
from elat and and that's not
A good translation it should never be jew in the old testament. It shouldn't be jew in the new testament
Yeah, you had juda heights
people of juda in the old testament
But the people of juda and the jews
should not be confused
What is the we're presumably translating from the septuid septuagint?
At this occasion. Yeah, so it's coming from gree. Is that right? Well, that was the king james version
But the greek word there would simply be a translation of what the hebu represents and that's yudahias
And that's the hellenistic
Yudahias is is the hellenistic
Um transliteration of yahuda or or juda
Okay
Um
So
How you're right, of course that the king james was translated from the the masoretic texts which are
Yes
Medieval hebu
Yes, yeah, okay, so
um
The words that
The the word in the bible whether it's in in the masoretic hebu or whether it's in the in the greek
What does it actually refer to? Does it refer to people who come from judia?
Or does it or does it refer to people who are of the tribe of juda?
Okay
Originally
They would have been of the tribes of either juda, benjamin or luva but predominantly of juda
Yeah, and they're all called juda heights because they were all under the old kingdom of juda
Until the babelonian captivity
It consisted of juda and benjamin and and a portion of the tribal levi
Well, all of the other
tribes of israel had for the most part not completely
But for the most part been taken into a syrian captivity or killed in the assyrian invasions
and
all of the the country of juda
outside of jerusalem
Was also taken into a syrian captivity. Was it?
But jerusalem held out did it it didn't get
Jerusalem held out so you only had the people left the remnant in jerusalem
Which was probably a sizable number of people
It was probably at least half a million people jerusalem was a large city
Oh, and it must have been very well fortified to be able to survive the assyrians
Yes
Really well fortified
Yes, and also has a guy or actually hid
He managed to hide an entire brook
That came through the city walls
And he had a tunnel going down from the mound
To the the base where that brook was to bring water up into the city. It's pretty amazing
Is that kid? No, what's that?
What's the name of the brook?
It might be the brook kid on
It might be
um
Yes, I was reading about hezekiah
Recently so sinakareb sinakareb. Was he the king of the assyrian?
Yes
And he got his his like he lost 250 000 of his men or something mysteriously and some kind of
180 000 I think it was 180 185 000 and god just wiped them out
Yes, that was amazing
Um, so so at that time
All of israel
Which was um
The other tribes that aren't benjamin levi and well the levi's are the troughs troughs are the benjamin
Judah
All the all the other tribes asher and dan and whatever they were taken into captivity or killed
Or had left by sea or had left by sea, okay, and so
Obviously jerusalem is in is in judea. What is israel to the north of of of of jude
It it was really to the north and partly to the west, but that's all right
Right, okay
Ah, yes, and I suppose greater israel which is which is what of course people like netanyahu are trying to trying to claim now
They claim to now how far west did israel go in those days?
Okay
Israel proper could only go as far as the Mediterranean
Entire oh, sorry
Yeah, sorry, obviously before the time of the assyrian empire
The the kingdom of judea
Had controlled all of the land
As far east as the euphrates river
And as far north as the mouth of the arantes river
Which is modern day what?
It's in modern-day turkey
okay
They controlled hamath
And that the they controlled the coast
All the way to the entering in of hamath. It's called in scripture, but the entering in of hamath
Is from the sea it's the mouth of the arantes river which flowed down as far as hamath
And that was hamath was got its its trade from that arantes river
so
That's basically the entire coast of the levant was controlled
By the kingdom of judea
from the time of david
Until the assyrians in the 9th century bc maybe the late 10th century bc. Yes the late 10th century bc
I believe started to conquer that territory
and take it for themselves
and in the scripture
in second kings
it's described that
Gerald bow home to the king of israel at the time who ruled israel for 50 years
Just over 50 years
He had taken back all of that land that belonged to judea
He took it back and he controlled it for the duration of his rule
But then his successors lost it again to the assyrians
So there was a struggle between israel and assyria
That we don't see in the bible because the bible is only concerned with what's going on in israel and judea proper
For instance, there's an assyrian inscription that explains that ahab
the king of israel
in the 9th century had sent
10 000 men
To face the assyrians
In league with that the kings of damascus and other kings in the north
When the kingdom divided between israel and judea
a lot of the cities that israel and
That judea had ruled over from the time of david had also divided and damascus was one of those cities
But we see the divided kingdom is just israel and judea, but that's not true
It's israel and judea plus they lost a lot of their
that their um
territory in the north
Through other men who became kings
Or who made themselves kings
So these territories
Were eventually eaten up by the assyrians
And ahab was trying to fight him off
geroboam two did fight him off
ahab
Tried to fight him off and and he had failed where geroboam two succeeded
but by the time of um
Tegelath pilaster three
In 743 bc
The assyrians had conquered all out of all of that territory
And began to bring israelites in galilee and across the jordan into captivity
In 743 and during these periods of captivity
What what was happening to them where they used the slaves and sort of prostitutes and things or
No
No for the most part they weren't
That they were settled
In lands on the frontiers of the assyrian empire
To act as a buffer state between the assyrians and their enemies
oh, okay
So in other words that the many israelites were planted along the borderlands
of uratu
Uratu was a powerful kingdom
that um
That had grown
In in the caucasus mountain region and what we would consider to be armenia today
The assyrians called it uratu
I'm not sure if they call themselves uratu. There are a couple of inscriptions surviving that i haven't gotten to yet
so
The chimerians that the the
Assyrians had called
the israelites
comry
And they settled them along the border of uratu
And the comry became known to the greeks as chimerians
oh
and
You and the greeks called them galata
something
That's later
That's much later
at first the greeks
Okay, when the assyrians ruled akkadian
Was the the lingua franca of the east, right?
so the assyrians they knew the greeks knew akkadian
I mean the greeks were were
they were greek
mercenaries
In the in the assyrian and the bambalonian armies
that
That the world doesn't exist in a bottle
Where this is my bottle and you stay out of my bottle you got your own bottle over there
No, there's a lot of the exchange between the greek world
And and misopotamia in the east
And there's a lot of greek myths and legends about their gods that originated in the east
Okay
So the greeks went when these
kumri
Or chimerians and when the greeks first became acquainted with these people
They called them after their name that the assyrians called them kumri
But they helonized that into timoroy
Timoroy timoroy would be plural
Meaning the chimerians that that's trans that became chimerian with a sea in in latin
In latin the seas are always hard
Okay
I'm sorry
Were the were the chimerians known to have any particular qualities?
Well
these chimerians
Are evidently grew into a fairly powerful people
And they weren't being powerful at the time
but
Modern modern academic scholars think that they were invaders from the north
And that's not true
They simply appear
in these
Assyrian inscriptions
Under different names later in history and and babelonian and and other inscriptions under different names later in history
because
The other nations the babelonians the persians had different words for them. Well, which I could get to
but these kumri
evidently over a couple of generations grew into a powerful people
And they they attacked the kingdom of iraq to and defeated it
So the assyrians never wrote about the kumri in their inscriptions as invaders
Or as enemies never
and
All of the inscriptions from the time of sargon 2 and later
Which mentioned the chimerians. They're just there
And the only thing that explains them just being there
Is that these are the people the kimri the kumri the israelites that tiglath pilacer
took into captivity
And planted in all the places where the chimerians later appear
And scholars don't want to make that connection. They mock it
But it's true and I could demonstrate it from the inscriptions
What what how what what did the inscriptions say?
Well, the inscriptions that tiglath pilacer described
The kumri that he took and plant out out of israel and planted in diverse places in the north
How many?
We don't know
We only have records as far as I know as far as I've ever seen in inscriptions
We only have records
We have several many records of of captivity's of israel
More than those that have actual numbers
So trans jordania was taken
Which was actually a pretty populist place
Rubin and gad and half the tribe of manassa had some pretty successful cities
And galilee was taken but there were no numbers in the inscriptions
The only numbers that exist as far as I know
Is the the captivity of samaria
one city
Samaria which was the capital of israel and they took
Off the top of my head. I think it's like 22 000 in change
captives from samaria
But that's only from one city and they took many other cities even if they were slightly smaller cities
And we have no numbers no surviving numbers in the inscriptions
Now senakarib in his invasion of juda
Took just over 200 000 captives
Into issyria
And that's a much more significant number, but he took 46 cities
Many people must have escaped
And many people must have been killed in those 46 cities
But he took 201 000 captives
I believe it is and change
That's isn't that interesting in in
In terms of the sort of the practice of the times because you'd sort of imagine that in those days
You just slaughtered the enemies and just just wiped them all out
But here's this policy where they're taking
Hundreds of thousands of enemy captives and installing them in their own territory as as a buffer. I think that's quite interesting
It is but that's what they did
And both the bible any inscriptions
Named some of the places that they were moved to
And that was the assyrian policy and the greeks despised that policy
They despised the persians despised it also
What why and when cyrus
When cyrus the king of persia the babelonians continued the assyrian policy
Of transplanting rebel
People from rebel communities
And planting them somewhere else and they did that to control them
So the babelonians continued that
But the persians despised it
And when cyrus became king of persia
Conquered babelon. He didn't really conquer it. He just walked in the babelons were happy for them
And for real and and he became the king of babelon
He made a a universal
It wasn't just the people of judo that were allowed to return
He made a universal declaration
That anybody that came from a different place can return to their homeland
Their original land
Not everybody would have taken them up on it
No, most of the people of judo
There's supposed to be many years after they've been displaced. So why are they?
That's why I mean after five six generations
And and sometimes longer who would want to leave?
You're comfortable here
so
That's why only 40 000 people
Of judo 42 000 in change had returned to jerusalem
The rest were comfortable. They were comfortable in babelon
I'm not working on my ancient world chronology. Um, did did the
Did the babelonians supersede the assyrians or were they parallel empires? They showered them. Well, well
They were parallel to them, but they were a subject state of the assyrians
that tried several times to get independence and kept failing
And finally and the assyrians destroyed babelon totally in a time of tiglath pillows or three
and then rebuilt it
in the eighth century
So the babelonians
Finally put together a consortium
of babelonians persians meads
chimerians
and sythians who were also
The the captive israelites or the chimerians and I could discuss that
They put together this consortium of people and they destroyed the cities of assyria
They destroyed nenevo. They destroyed the assyrian empire in 612 bc
And that that the king of babelon at that time was the father of the book it does are too
The book it does are too became king
I believe in 605 bc
And he began to reassemble
The old assyrian empire under his own rule
right
okay
But that empire only lasted until
539 bc
and
in terms of the kind of
religious practices and stuff
With the babelonians and the syrians assyrians into child sacrifice and stuff like that
I don't have any particular records of that
I don't that I could think of the child sacrifice they were into um bow worship
Especially in babelon
And you'll hear the names of other god other gods
Um nebo and marduk
But they were also used as synonyms for bow or alternate names for bow
So the babelonians had the bow worship
The same worship that the ancient canaanites had which was fertility rights
It it it was there there was lasciviousness
In bow worship that's where people got married at altars
You got married at the altar you you actually had sex at the altar in the ancient bow world
And and those fertility rights were were um
Pretty much universal in the worship of bow it seems
However, the child's sacrifice part of it
I have not seen
beyond
the ancient canaanites
And some of the Phoenicians that adopted the practice from the canaanites
okay, okay, and who the the
The um chimerians
Who were they worshiping at this time were they were they were they sticking with with the original god or were they
No, no
that the israelites
From the time of jeroboam one in the bible
This is one generation after
Solomon
Yeah, right
And a divided kingdom
And that kingdom became divided and jeroboam one became the king of the ten tribes of israel
and he
realized
That as long as his people were worshiping
Yahweh at the temple in jerusalem that he couldn't control them
All the ancient kings understood something that we don't understand today
That our government controls us through our religion
Kings have always worked together with priests
To control us through our religion if our government doesn't control our religion
Then our government cannot control us period
And this is something that ancient Sumerian kings understood
But today we don't understand it
I don't know why we don't know we we think this separation of church and state
And there really isn't it's all a gaslight
There's no separation
Especially in england right where your king is the head of the anglican church
Americans think there's separation and there's not
He may be the head of the anglican church. I don't think he's very much interested in the christian god though
No, he's not he's not but he's still the head of the church figure. He's the figurehead
Right
So, I mean surely when the children of israel
Followed gods gods will
Um and don't put their children in the fire and don't build ashira poles
Then things go well for his rights. It's only when they they abandon the faith that things go badly for them, isn't it?
Yes, absolutely
And that's what we
As a formerly christian people
Are suffering today. Yes
We wonder why we're being overrun with aliens
You don't have to wonder read deuteronomy chapter 28. It's really simple
Read the curses of disobedience in scripture. We've accepted
Sodomy
Is generally accepted in our society today. In fact, it's even promoted
And we wonder why we suffer we wonder why we have all this crime
That's why because we've rejected christ
We've rejected our god and we're going to suffer for it until we turn back
There's no other solution
Period. There is no other solution
I was very naughty william because I distracted you remember that we we started this digression about half an hour ago
They asked you about the origin of the word jew
um
so
Jew jew means
Of of the of the tribe of jude of that region of of the
Well to the greeks
it
It meant to the original greeks
The jews only had
I'm sorry. Now i'm doing it the people of jude only had control of jerusalem and its immediate environs
When alexander marched into jerusalem in 330
bc yeah
And those greeks from that time
Referred to them as yudahios because that is a transliteration
A helen ice transliteration of yehuda
Okay
now
Those
Uh
alexander's empire was divided
Into four major parts when he died
And the salucids became the rulers of the part that controlled the levant
Which is basically syria the salucid greeks
Salusa salucas is one family one man the salucids are one family of greek rulers
To whom fell control of syria and they ruled syria until the romans came
So and and that would be about 70 bc perhaps 75 bc when the romans first started
their incursions into syria
so these salucids
Actually tried to force
because alexander believed in
Imogenizing the people and religions everywhere we conquered he he was
one of your first um
Globalist universalist emperors that we should all have the same religion. We should all be one race, right?
That was alexander the great. He wasn't too great as far as i'm concerned
so
These salucids continued that policy and tried to force the people of jerusalem again and again
to give up their their
Ancestral religion in favor of greek paganism and to live like greek pagans
And they refused and finally in 150
160 156 bc i'm thinking
They actually managed to
Defeat the salucids in battle
And gain their independence
And it was judas hasmonius
The hasmonian dynasty was founded there of high priests
And they were called judas was called maccabee
Which is a hammer so that's where the word maccabees come from
Actually judas was the only maccabee
But the hasmonians are often called maccabees because of judas
so
judas
And and his immediate successors
They believed in running out all of the edomites and other canaanites
Who had taken over the cities of juda and israel
since the
captivity of the assyrians and and the babelonians
And they tried to run them out for 30 years
and kept failing
Because they didn't have their own population wasn't great enough
To inhabit those places that they ran their enemies out of
So in 129 bc perhaps
john herkonis
Who's one of the hasmonians he became high priest
And the high priest to the rulers of the nation at that time
He changed the policy
And he began to forcibly convert those people to judaism
And that policy which is against the scripture. It's totally contrary to the scripture
But he did it for political expediency
So he converted all of the edomites of several major cities
And josephus list dora and marisa among those cities
And he died
And
Eventually another high priest arose named alexander janius
Who I think may have been herkonis's grandson. I'm not sure
Well alexander janius
continued that policy of forcing
these people to convert
But he did it on a much greater scale
And he was far more successful
And he converted all the edomites in like
30 different
Cities and districts in in judaea. He converted them all to judaism
Right
But with the condition that they could stay as long as they converted
But presumably it was they they didn't call it judaism. They
No, they would have just called it the law
the law
Yes, the ancient he bruised the ancient people of juda would have just referred to it as the law
law
So okay, so from that point on
The
Anyone sort of calling themselves a sort of a jew or judaea and judahite whatever
Would not necessarily be a descendant of the children of israel. They could just as easily have been their arch enemies the moabites
Right the the moabites the edomites
other canaanites
Primarily the edomites
Were the largest pop the largest alien population apparently
At least the impression I get
It converts our number the original
original yes, they did eventually they did
so in
in 63 bc the romans come
And attempt to conquer jerusalem
And they really did have a hard time
And fighting and rebellion dragged out and the family the hasmonians became divided
And there was actually one hasmonian. I think his name was aristobulus who was hostile
to the edomites
And he thought that he should be the high priest because his brother john herkonos too was a sellout
And was in bed with the edomites
So john herkonos too
He married his niece off to herod
Herod called herod the great
He was a good friend of herod's father
He hired him to be a general in his army
To help him fight the romans
Well herod's father dies and herod sort of takes over
And he marries the niece of the high priest
Mariam, so this is how much the the hasmonians and the edomites are in bed with each other
Herod betrays the hasmonians
Sides with the romans and gets made king when the romans conquered jerusalem
Herod
Killed when he got made king. He wiped out the hasmonian dynasty. He had them all killed
He had all the nobles of jerusalem killed and he replaced them with his own cronies who were edomites for the most part
Right, okay
so
By the time jesus turns up
There's been this kind of game of thrones type blood. Yes
And that accounts for all the division in the new testament
Right
What what division do you mean between the sadducees and the Pharisees or or no between between
Christ and the sadducees and the Pharisees
Okay, because okay, so where is who's where is jesus in all this what what's his bloodline?
Judah
He he's a true juda. He's an actual juda juda height and and the apostles there are still a lot of true judas in judaea
And the apostles were chosen from the true juda heights who were actually mostly a benjamin, it seems
And and christ was of the tribe of juda
He was a true juda height
How would they have known
Was it just the thing you did you knew like like like in the english class system, you know, where everyone's everyone's background and
How does it how did it work?
You you it would have been hard to know you wouldn't have known
You
It would have been difficult to know the apostles couldn't tell the edomites apart
Well, how do you know the apostles that all the apostles were true juda heights?
Because the scripture tells us they are
Okay
Christ said have I not chosen you 12 and one of you was a devil
Yes, and who and and he meant was was judas iskariot
Yes, it is judas was judas not not a juda height
He was almost certainly an edomite
was he
The the the name iskariot means son of karyoth
And that was his father's name
Or man of karyoth
Ish is man and karyot
The karyot part is from karyot, which is a town in the south of juda
And it's one of the towns that were under edomite dominion in juda right
And that's where judas's father was from
But this is I suppose this is where it starts getting spicy
because
I think of jesus as this like
Well, amazingly loving person and and
I mean he attracted all sorts of people didn't he all sorts of followers came and converted to him
um
Why would he why would he differentiate between
proper juda heights and converts?
Christ told the in john chapter 10 in verse 26
Christ told his adversaries
Because we don't have pictures
We don't have genealogies for them. We don't have pictures, but christ told them
Very plainly and simply
You do not believe me because you are not my sheep
Yes, he did say that
He didn't say
You're not my sheep because you don't believe me
Say run run it by me again. What what did he say?
He said you do not believe me because you are not my sheep, right
The church teaches that they're not a sheep because they didn't believe them, but that's not true
That's not what he said
Okay, suppose you're right
William
How come the church
All the different branches of the church all preach the opposite
Because there's been gas lit for 1800 years
They don't they didn't know this history
They didn't have access to josephus in in the third century fourth century fifth century
Books weren't that widely disseminated
Who's doing the gas lighting?
Jews
By which you mean what?
well
All those forces
Is spoke to hereditary grippa too
In palestine in in cesarea, he addressed hereditary grippa too
And the roman governor was there with him
Porcheus festus, which is my favorite name in the world for roman because it means happy fate happy pig
Porcheus festus was his name. It means
festive pig is
Exactly what it means. He was the roman governor and hereditary grippa too
In cesarea, and they had paletarsus there. They're about to send him to rom
But hereditary grippa too wanted to hear him
Wanted to hear his testimony first
And paul said he spoke about the hope of our fathers
Which is what christ represents, right?
He spoke about the hope of our fathers
Which our 12 tribes have for which i labor night and day i'm paraphrasing
But this is acts chapter 26 verses six and seven and he says for which hope
I am accused of the jews
In other words, he he distinguished the jews from the 12 tribes
As a separate entity as a distinct entity
But wasn't paul a jew
No, he was a judaean
You see to to us
These people that we call jews
What we associate them with judaea
But they're not to be associated with juda because they're all mixed with those edomites
That were the enemies of ancient juda. It's not fair
It's like
It's like calling
No, it's not i'm sorry
If I say londoner
To you
What do you think of what image do you get in your head because right now most of the people in london?
They're not londoners
No way, so it's fair to say they're londoners
No
No because you're from london
To you it's not fair
So do you think christ would want to get lumped together with these edomites?
He wouldn't but
I thought that one of the things he was coming about to do
was to kind of um
Sort of
End that period where
where um
Who says that?
That's not true
That's not what he said
right
He said I've come but unto the lost sheep of the house of israel
And then he told his adversaries you're not my sheep
You don't believe me because you're not my sheep. He didn't care about them. He didn't come for them
But
Have has there not been
Has not god showed his blessing on
All these people who in in good faith become christians who are not necessarily descendants of the children of israel
I mean, they've produced saints. They've produced
Are they who says that?
Well the church the church, yeah
Romans chapter 15 verse 8
Paul of tarsus said that christ came to fulfill the promises of the fathers
Right
So if you want to know why christ came and this is also mentioned on two occasions in luke chapter one
You know and it's mentioned in different ways throughout the scripture
To fulfill the promises of the fathers luke chapter one that we would be saved from our enemies
That he came to uphold the the oath which he swore
To our father abraham
That we would be saved from our enemies. That's at the end of luke chapter one
That's why he came
That's why the bible says he came. That's why his gospel says he came
So how could we say he came for anything else that's not written in his gospel?
well
John
I know you're thinking about john 3 16, but john 3 16
Is taken totally out of context
Out of its biblical and historical context
Jesus doesn't Jesus loves the world
But not the world that we see
He doesn't love this world and in fact the apostle james tells you
In james chapter five. I believe that a friend of the world is an enemy of god
So that world in john 3 16, it's not what these mainstream christians think it is
so
Paul knew all this
Absolutely
So where did it so when did when did the message get confused then what what point in the in the genesis of the
Paul didn't confuse it at all
James didn't confuse it at all james wrote to the 12 tribes scattered abroad
Paul of tarsus
Told the Corinthians
First Corinthians chapter 10
That their ancestors
were in the cloud and the sea with
With moses
How is that I could explain how it is
I can explain that but I would need a whole half a podcast to explain that
Paul told the romans
abraham our forefather
romans chapter four right at the beginning
It says father in the king james version
but
It says forefather in the older manuscripts
But either way, how is abraham the father of the romans?
Paul called the galatians
And that's your galatahi right
The galatians descended from the skitians actually
The name of skitian and and the name sacca
Described the same people
And a couple of centuries later the greeks started calling them galatahi
Instead of skitians or sacca, but they're the same people
And the galatians paul told the galatians
That christ came to redeem
those under the law who were under the law
And he told them that the law was our school master
to bring us to christ
How does that
How does that affect the galatians
I could tell you how because the galatians are the descendants of those chimerians those comry
okay
when
When jesus applauds the centurion
for his faith
When the the the centurions is right there i i don't i didn't you
I trust you totally i don't need to go and check i i believe you and jesus says you know his faith is amazing
Is
In jesus's eyes who's who's better that that centurion or a non-believing
Um descendant of the children of israel
How do you know that centurion isn't the descendant of the children of israel
Well, I I don't know
I can make connections between the romans
And the ancient israelites in egypt
It's thin but there are connections there
That the romans came from retrogens and retrogens
Came from the israelites in egypt
It does it does make christianity very much a religion about bloodlines doesn't it though i mean if that's the case
How okay the city of god in revelation chapter 21 has 12 dates
And on those 12 dates are written the names of the 12 tribes of the children of israel
Okay, it's about bloodline from beginning to end
And you're either of that bloodline or you're not
but
I mean
You and i can probably feel very confident
We're okay. I mean, you know, we're one of the doesn't matter
Doesn't matter in the end. It doesn't matter
Oh, why?
Well, you'll either continue to exist or you won't know the difference
You either have those promises
That god made to this one bloodline of people or you don't
It doesn't matter in the end what it's not going to affect us in the afterlife
Well, we either will be there or we won't know the difference
Well, what
If we don't have the spirit of god, I don't know if there isn't afterlife at all
Hmm
I think god put his spirit into the ademic man and that's all we know
I I mean, there were many I I could talk about it through scripture all day
but
He didn't put his spirit into every man
To be an image of his eternity
The spirit is an image of the eternity of god
That's wisdom of Solomon chapter two
But paul of tarsus also suggests it in first Corinthians chapter 15
I feel
At the end of this podcast
Like I did at the end of the previous one we need to do. I'm sorry
I'm sorry. It's
Life is complicated. Yeah, it is. It's really complicated and to be fair
We have tried to compress
About 5 000 years of history or more actually more if you can't
Pre-ademic era into
Into an hour and a half
Um, well, I I gave you actually an hour and 37. I'm sorry. There's a reason why I have
1,300 podcasts on my website
And also, I mean you did have to spend you weren't actually in 12 whole years way
Um, yes, I was
At a 14 year sentence. I was in for 12 years three months
I've done nothing but this ever since
So I've been studying this for 30 years
Can I just ask you very briefly?
How much does it how much does it suck to be in prison for 12 years?
It must just like I mean, how do you how horrible is it?
I I had my own
Life in prison
Through my books and my writings
I didn't start writing until 2005
I studied for seven years before I started writing
Um
I
Just had my my own life. I worked out every day. I went to the rec yard
I did my push-ups and ran and all that stuff
For an hour a day and and went back and took a shower and went back into my cell
And just spent my whole day there reading and writing
How do you avoid being attacked in things?
I'm like 6 4 and 250 at that time, right
So you didn't have to make friends with mr. Big because you were mr. Big yourself
That that's life. I mean I grew up in the streets. I was a cop
For 12 years law enforcement in corrections, which in new jersey is being a cop
It's um, I I know the the ropes
I
We we're gonna do another podcast obviously because we because we we still haven't we've barely spread the surface
But have you ever debated?
uh, sort of religious
A priest or a
Minister oh, I haven't and I really don't care to debate
Because as far as I'm concerned
I don't want to hear their opinions
I went to catholic school for 10 years
And I was raised in catholic school
I'm the first I only went to school for 10 years. No
But it was catholic school
Um, I know enough of what they say. I don't care about their opinions
Yes, I write what I believe it's public. It's on my website. It's free
I give away everything I do. I don't charge her anything
I have
I really have about 1700 podcasts, but some of them are on other websites
I have 1300 podcasts on history in the bible at christigania
So if you don't like it walk away from it, but you're not going to convince me of your
There's no point in debating. You're not going to convince me ever
I've studied so that sounds awfully arrogant. I understand that
No, William, I I I totally get where you're coming from. I've actually written a piece
Um on my substack a while back saying why I think
The debate is a completely artificial and debasing. I don't solve anything
No, they don't solve anything the the only reason I it wasn't that I I felt that you ought to do it. It was more that
Being me
I don't have the um
The depth of biblical knowledge to be able to ask the really penetrating questions that might
You know, I understand that it's hard. I do understand that
I do
But anyway, um, it's I look it's for people who've heard this they can either go
The guy is an idiot. Well, he is self-confessed
So why should I listen to him and there'll be someone go well, yeah
Maybe he's right. I will go and look at his website, which is called
Kristo Gannier
Kristo Gannier. Yes, it's hard
chr ist that's christ
o
g e n e a
Which means
I I chose that name because it has three meanings
it could be
the birth of christ
or the race of christ
or
translating christos
the anointed race
It could mean all three of those things any one of them
Excellent, um, I will put links to it. Well, she one more question. Um, I was reading
um this account of
one of the
Russian orthodox monks who was sent to the gulag and the Stalin and
I mean cruelly tortured and and and things and he said
that he had never felt
closer to god
than when he was
in the
uh in in the gulag in sybaria
um because all of the worldly
distraction is shed
Yeah
But did you ever have that experience of you? I mean, has god ever spoken to you?
You know, I wouldn't claim that god's ever spoken to me. I would never make the claim
To me, I would be arrogant if I made the claim. No, I would deny that I would never make that claim
I I've prayed all the time. I mean, I'm I'm a sincere believer that your thoughts are your prayers
Yeah, and that's why it's so important to harness your thoughts
People that go to church and then watch porn all week
Church isn't doing the many good
They should just watch porn instead
Just watch more porn. No because your mind is filled with that
Yet your mind is filled with worldly distractions that in prison in a hostile environment
It's really easy to shed all of that. It really is
and focus on on
constructive things
Do you think god
From your reading of the scriptures
Can god actually read your mind or does he only
He does he can actually he can actually read your mind because I was just
One of the psalms, uh, one of my favorite psalms where he says
He fashioneth all their hearts and understandeth all their works
He doesn't say understandeth all their thoughts or fashioneth all their
great
There's several times in the gospel where christ knew what people were thinking
Right
He could have been a good character reader. I mean inference
That's not he knew what he knew when they were
He told them
Explicitly what they were thinking
And they couldn't deny it
So yes, I believe he can read our minds
Yeah
Well, I'm not gonna go and look at the porn after this. Um, William. I'm just
I'm gonna have a cup of tea
That's a good idea
That's a good idea. Well, it's been
As ever it's been a
roller coaster ride of uh, I wasn't sure where we were going to go today. I just thought
Hey, then we'll see where it goes and
Thank you at least for elucidating
A bit of
of biblical
Era history
The scratch of surface in an hour and a half I could talk about it for for weeks
Without stopping I'm not bragging. It's just
30 years of study
Most clerics don't study history
Yeah
They study a bible maybe maybe
Or they study church dog murdering doctrines if you're a catholic
You're studying a catechism and stuff like that. No, they don't study history
When I found that when I was confronted with this in 1997
I
Decided that I was going to read the classics
So I I read Herodotus and Thucydides and Strabo and Deodorus and the the tragic poets and the elegant poets and and
everything I could
Josephus
Tacitus a lot of Roman writers
Um all the way up to Procopius and bead in the seventh and eighth century sixth sixth and eighth centuries
I I read
Have you read a few thousand books?
I was blown away recently when I read only in translation
Reading Horace's Odes
and Epodes
I mean
It's genius
it's
It probably is but he was also like
Very lewd
Yeah, he was that he was the the Milo of his day, wasn't he?
Yeah, I'm sure it's genius, but he was very lewd
So I've never read Horace. I'm sorry. You're not
It's really good
I understand that but I just don't like to read
I read him after my Bible reading of the I I do the Psalms
I do a bit of the New Testament and do a bit of the Old Testament every night
Um
Keeps me honest. Well, I see that's interesting to me
Um, I translated the
Wisdom of Solomon
About two years ago
Look what happened to him
You should really read that
Yeah, you look what happened to him. We can all sin
We can all sin none of us can cling to be without sin
Solomon
It's given to very few of us to sin on that scale
You know a lot of people read Ecclesiastes
And the song of Solomon and they don't understand them
But they're both totally genius works. They really are
It's very lovely the song of Solomon. I just don't know what it's about what it it seems to be completely
Unlike anything else in the Bible
It is but it's not
Because if you go look at all the sexual innuendo in the song of Solomon it explains what happened in Genesis chapter three
Right
That's all I'm gonna say
Well
Reminds me if oh, I obviously won't remember and I remember either but on the next podcast we should start off by discussing that
Maybe that's fine. That'd be great
William, thank you. I'll tell you never asked me about yoga mesh, but that's okay. That's okay
Do you think have they found the tomb?
Okay
There is an archaeologist a german archaeologist
George fast binder
And he was interviewed several times in 2003 and he seems to be a legitimate archaeologist academic archaeologist
And archaeology, I'm gonna try not to do this in half an hour. I'll try to do it in five minutes
Archaeology is a very slow moving discipline
These archaeologists get funding go out into the field do these great digs
Find all this cool stuff
Take pictures measurements and and everything that guys like me look for
An archaeological dig, right? I want to see provenance
In other words, I just don't want to know
What was found I want to know the the documentation of where it was found
How deep in the ground was it? Where was it dug up? Things like that are very important
because I want to
I want to interpret my own archaeology
I don't want to have to rely on somebody else doing it for me
So I want to read the studies
That sometimes after that dig and that summer in in that summer camp they do in the desert somewhere
They bring all their data back to some school in heidelberg or or
Chicago or something
And sometimes it sits there for years before it's published
10 15 years
I want to see that study
These little blurbs you hear on the news are always fantastic
But even according to bbc
George fast George fastbinder said I don't want to say it's gilgamesh's tomb
He said that so whether it is or not we may never know
Because I can't find any news on it later than 2003
Not on a google search
That is disappointing I think you're gonna say
And he was enormous he was like seven feet tall and they found his sword
And his body was completely preserved
I understand I I understand a disappointment
but that's
Archaeology is a very slow-moving thing and I want to see documentation
I want to see institute evidence and and
Things that a a published study would grant me but there's no published study
I guess they didn't have time. I guess they had to clear out of there. I don't know the circumstances
I was in prison. I know it's in the middle of the iraq war when it was about to kick off
so
We're never going to see a study. It's it's sad
Because those iraqis I mean I've noticed egyptian's iraqis. They're not the true
Inheritors of the ancient culture. They're basically all arabs now
So they don't have the care for it
Then we wouldn't have the care for for norse relics found on the shores of britain
Yes, so in your understanding
they um
The original egyptians and the original assyrians and bablonians were all kind of white skinned
Yes
Yes, but they had nephilim among them
They always had the nephilim there
Dilgamesh was one of the nephilim. He's actually mentioned in the dead z scrolls as one of the giants
He was obviously a guy
Yes
And there were others
Except
I did a I did a podcast with a guy. Have you done that? Have you spoken to the guy about nephilim clowns?
The nephilim's looked like clowns
I heard that on a on a tweet
On x I think I laughed at it. I chuckled at it. I I may have heard it. You talked to him
I did it was fast. It was very persuasive. I I mean would certainly explain why we hate clowns
You know, we've got this it's a bit like like snakes and spiders. We've got this atavistic fear of these creatures
with their
Red noses
I've been up close
Back when I was in in um, our enforcement
There was an annual
Christmas party
That was a a charity event
That the warden of the jail I worked in used to hold every year
And he would have tiny tim and andre the giant
At this event
I don't know if you ever heard a tiny tim. You probably have
That tip toe through the tulip song
Andre the giant was a
ex wrestler
right
He used to send me to in in a jail van
Because that was the only thing big enough to hold andre the giant
I used to take a jail transport van
To Greenwich village and pick them up and bring them to this charity event
Andre the giant
I'm six four and and at that time probably 280
And he made me feel like a dwarf
Is you really how big was he had a head
He sat on the bars. I got him to this this place in Hoboken
They had a hole in the back, but they had a bar in the front
Andre went straight to the bar got a seat sat down
and had
A 12 ounce beer in his hand maybe a 16 ounce glass of beer in his hand and his hand just
Wrapped around the whole bottle looked like a shot glass
in his hand
and his head
was
Huge it was this big his head
And this guy's like seven foot tall and 500 pounds
If you want to know what the Nephilim look like
Just get a picture Andre the giant
Did he have red hair the red nose?
No, he had dark brown hair
Did he know he was Nephilim did you ask him?
No, I didn't know he was Nephilim at that time. I was just a young dumb cop
It was like 1984 maybe for 85 if you look into his genealogy
No, I haven't it says he's french
but
I've seen other giants in in my life men that I really thought descended from from the giants
and
In in
In the caucuses mountain region there seemed to be a lot of these
Oh, yeah
Of a high frequency of them
And there are some recorder you can look it up on on google look up giants
Well, there's the one they found in that cave in um in Torah Bora
that that took out something like
That a section of a section of special forces or something
I never um, yeah, right. I know who you mean. I know I know which one you mean in Afghanistan. Yes
I
Think there are a lot of them there in in places like that in the old world
With caves basically
I have a
A an article of a woman
In I think in Syria
I could be wrong, but it's neighboring to Syria if it's not Syria who's like
Well over seven foot tall
a woman
And and it's not okay. We could say well a lot of white people are seven foot tall
There there are some in our population
but they're not
In in her population the average woman's like five foot four and she's over seven foot tall
That's not if you have a population of men my size and somebody hits seven foot tall
That's not a big stretch
From six four to seven feet
And I've known men that were six ten
That were friends of mine that made me feel short, right?
But this woman is over seven foot tall and and she's got to be some kind of genetic throwback
For sure
Some dormant genes that manifested themselves
Yeah
There's quite a few of them over there. I mean not
Thousands but I've I've seen a lot of cases. I've also seen a lot of um old
Newspaper accounts of giants with with old black and white photos and things like that in in even in American newspapers
but
Is it really buried
You don't know what to believe when you see something from the 1890s and there's only that one report of it and it's here and gone
And and no artifacts. So you don't know what to believe
You don't know about that the smithsonian buried them all that they burned them all
They got I've heard that I've heard that
But how do we prove that?
I'm really pragmatic
I only want to believe what I could touch
And and feel and see for myself
Even if it's just in an old book
And and old historical accounts or scriptural accounts, that's fine
But I really want to test it to see if it's true
I'm familiar with um
Stephen quail. He's published a lot about
Accounts of giants throughout the world. I haven't read his work
But I know of it and I've seen excerpts from it
You don't know what to believe though when when he the supposed evidence is coming gone
or buried
I think you do actually because I think you can you know that an institution like the smithsonian is going to be
Doing the work of the evil ones
You just do I mean it's a it's a given so it doesn't it
It's a question of which seems more likely
Does it seem more likely that that the story about the smithsonian presiding over the
destruction of giant bodies to discuss to destroy our
historical knowledge is true
Or does it seem more likely to you that that's a kind of an urban myth created by crazy conspiracy theorists to discredit an honest
I understand that
I understand that I understand any issues, but what would be their motivation for wanting to destroy it?
the same motivation that that
All history is is is is fake because the less we know about our past the less we can kind of
construct arguments like you construct
That that they want us in the dark. It's very important. They don't want us to know about pre-history particularly, you know about about
um
well
Giants used to used to build
They used to feed on on native americans. They used to in native american law as in lore
They tell of the of of being hunted down by these giants and eventually trapping these giants in in in caves and burning them
There was the war between the the native americans and the giant population
I
Okay, that's that's way out of my area of study. I'm sorry. I mean you can't everything
I mean, yeah, I don't this is this is what I do
I'm broad brush. I go go go beyond the bible to uh
giant well somebody has to make that sacrifice to to um
To be broad brushed and offer the information to to the people, right? I mean to your viewers
Yeah, well, exactly. I mean I I I haven't got your attention to detail that um
Yeah, I have to say focus. I mean I do other things
I've I've done a whole series on the the protocols of zeon that I called the protocols of satan
But I got up to part 29 and a hurricane destroyed my house and I've never
Have been able to get back to its sense
Do you think the hurricane was sent by the forces of darkness?
No, it it destroyed half a
Half of the um golf in bay county just professional damage, you know, I mean
Right with the forces of darkness go
I'm not going to take out figs place because it might other people might get hurt
Yeah, but I was blessed because the house that I'm in right now
I bought six weeks before the hurricane
It didn't get knocked down
No
No, it's it's it's 40 miles away. So you had somewhere to flee to that's great. That is lucky. Yeah
Yeah, I somewhere to go
Because the house was totaled. I mean I didn't know it was totaled. I I cleared the trees
I tarped off the roof
I kind of repaired the roof
So that I could tarp it off. It took me three days to do that
Then I moved here where I could take a shower
so
It was an adventure. I'm not going to cry about it
Um, so, um, right. I'm going to have that come for tea now. So tell me, um, tell us where we can find your stuff again one more time
crystalgenia.org
Right chris christ oge anya
crystalgenia.org if you misspell it google will still find it
Yeah, christ oge christ original gangster
Yeah
Yeah, excellent. Um, so, um, uh, thank you and look come back again. We'll do another one. Um, and sure
We can mop up
Actually, we're not going to do this in three-point class. We only need more but i'm gonna open more avenues
I'm sorry. Yeah. Oh, can you do how are you on no hide laws?
That's such a guess like yeah, I could discuss a no hide loss
Yeah, because I've done a podcast on them already, but I but I'd be quite good to sort of back it up with
Do you think it's not real?
No, it's false. Uh, I I incorporated it. I did a genesis commentary
60 part
Probably a thousand pages
Commentary on genesis
It's probably over a million words. I think no William. I don't mean I don't mean
Are the no no hide laws? No, I talked about the no hide laws for half of one of those podcasts
how it was a gaslight
that
There were no hide laws that they call no hide laws that aren't even in genesis
No, no, I
I'm sure they're completely bogus, but but doesn't mean they're not being taken seriously by some really bad people is what is what
I mean, right they want us
That's a back door that they scheme
They really want to destroy Christianity. Yeah, and they'll do anything they can to eradicate Christianity
Once they think they could make the no hide laws the law of the land
Then they could execute Christians through idolatry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're a game on that one. Okay. Um
We'll do that another time. Okay
William, I'm going to say enjoy the rest of your northern florida
day
Yeah, it's actually farmed out this week and don't thank you. Thank you, James. It's a pleasure