what's up friends haven't recorded an episode in a couple of weeks and this next episode
was recorded last week gonna take some time off need to rebuild myself internally
work on myself trying to find inner peace you've been following me for a while
you know I'm always questioning government narratives institutional narratives religious
narratives all that stuff I question at all what I didn't expect was when
or how disorienting it could be when your own foundation shifts
so just need to take some time off need to recalibrate
try to find myself so thank you guys that have been following me for a while maybe you just found the
show so just ask patience I don't know I don't have a timeline but
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who decides what the fuck is true um I just each week I keep seeing that things are just gonna
get a little less wild crazy with the zeitgeist of the news we got away from politics we got back
on politics and uh I was listening to my friend Ashley on nights of the storm and she did
like a potathon and there was a guy on there who I was like listening kind of like just kind of half
listening all day long and today we are joined by wheezy who is host of what is truth podcast a
show that kind of digs into conspiracy theories controversial events and kind of cracks the
official narrative of all the bullshit that we hear in the news I mean for me just listening
to him he kind of challenges mainstream thinking and he invited me as a listener to kind of
look at history and current events through a different lens so we're talking hidden agendas
media influence psychological warfare and kind of like questioning the authority narrative
that has nothing been more more more important during this time than when I listen to this guy talk
and he doesn't give a fuck so today we have wheezy who's on from what's truth uh podcast along
with Ashley uh who you guys have heard he's she's on nights of the storm uh she also is
her own podcaster she has a show coming out here in a couple weeks so we are doing a three
how are we doing guys okay thank you for the introduction you're welcome wheezy and I got
ash how you doing ash I think you are muted ash I can see you're muted up so how you doing
hey I'm doing good I'm happy to be here with you guys and I think I'm really happy that the
two of you are talking I think it's going to be a really good conversation and food for thought
a lot of food for thought and if we get into the the the moon landing there's a lot of things
that touch that just like a lot of the other stuff that we talk about Ray so much of this stuff is
connected it's just a node in the web and it's really fascinating yeah so wheezy if you want to
give everyone kind of I did an intro for you but just kind of say like your podcast and kind of
like what your truth is but I picked the moon landing hoax today boys and girls because that
is just it's the nasa's getting read getting ready to relaunch the whole space program
go back to go back to the moon because quote unquote we're going back but I've never fucking
thought that we went in the first place so I just wanted to kind of get your your your take on it
and what is what does it go from there yeah I mean I try to cover a bunch of different topics
mostly conspiracy related but I do jump around from time to time lately I've been doing a lot of
philosophy and trying to figure out that question what is truth um lately I've been
trying to figure out what consciousness is
for some people that may be a boring exercise but I've been
I've been really really pondering a lot I've been doing podcasts now for a few years and
it's it's been wild obviously the government lies but so do people
I've been doing this for many years now and
it's shaking my thought process on everything not just government lying but I don't know I'm in a
weird space now where everything is faking gay man like you're fucking black killed
that's what I am I am I'm super black killed you think you know someone or something and then
it's all bullshit yep and so that's where I'm at um yeah the moon landing is one of those things
nine eleven um and on and on and on a lot of people lately I've been hearing say that I'm
extremist for my thoughts but I think it's all there the patterns are there that we continually get
lied so I feel justified in questioning everything if someone lies to you and has a habit of lying to
you aren't you gonna continually question them if they started if someone or the government
for example or whatever if they started having a good track record and started being straight up and
transparent well then maybe you know maybe you can take things a little bit easier on them
but I still wouldn't trust them 100% and that's where I'm at and so when you have track records
of lie after lie after lie why the hell should I take any of their words for anything they claim
that they're doing and and that pertains to everything name it all the big events in history
are all lies every single one of them yeah it's all bullshit I'm unapologetic I I have questions
on world war two and a lot of shit doesn't add up there Ashley and I did a show on Vietnam
a lot of shit doesn't add up there all the major events in history have all been bullshit
and so now unfortunately I I'm not I'm like that with even people in this space
there's people that I trusted and believed and a lot of these people maybe some of them have
good intentions I don't know but there's a lot of bullshit so I'm as blackpilled as you can get
so well I mean I my household my dad grew up on my dad was a big like alien guy so like Eric
Eric Bondon again I saw when I was a kid like the god code and you know we kind of had the
JFK assassination my dad had books and books and books and my sisters and I are identical
triplets but I was very different from my sisters I was big on conspiracy theories
and I remember during COVID like in California because we shut the book down and I was telling
them in 2020 because I was seeing who's the McAfee John McAfee that's the anti-virus guy that was
talking about do not get the COVID vaccine so I was saying X Y and Z is going to happen there's
going to be you know myocarditis, pericarditis, blood clotting, girls having issues with the
menstrual cycle and everyone told me I was fucking crazy and then I bent over and grabbed my
ankles wheezy and I took one for the team and got vaccinated because I was going to get
fired and both my sisters got vaccinated and I thought well fuck it if they're going to die
I might as well die too and we all three got severely vaccine injured and then they started
asking questions and also my stepmom was supposed to be on flight 93 for 9-11 so I lived in Boston
moved to Seattle my senior year watched at real time my dad and I were saying you know X Y and Z
happened and how the fuck I had to take down an entire building but we get the passports so
my that whole round about me being a woman and talking way too much right now is because
I am 100% with you that none of it makes sense it's all it's all bullshit if I see something on
the news I automatically go okay there's a narrative behind it it's not the truth and where are we at
so I recently the reason I picked we can talk about anything you guys we got an hour but
we can start with just the moon landing is because NASA recently is now doing this big push
they're talking about they're bringing astronauts back to to the moon and I'm like
not been since the 60s what's going on how the fuck did we not figure it out to get
through the Van Allen belt with radiation but we had this technology back then
but our cell phones wouldn't allow us to talk on it on a plane until 2015
like what the fuck is going on yeah the whole moon landings is
I mean in in a way it was it was a success for the government PR department because
if you tell people today that you don't believe in the moon landings you are looked at as loony
how the hell do you not believe we made it to the moon we learned this shit in elementary school
so in that sense it was a successful PR by by our government and my theory you know
some people that will start to have questions will quickly ask and within reason I mean
it's a valid question why would they fake the moon landings that they can't comprehend it
and what my answer to that is take a look at the entire decade of the 1960s everything that was going
on the bullshit the the government murders from JFK that everyone knows about but RFK Malcolm X
Martin Luther King Fred Hampton and on and on and on tons of government corrupt corruption during
that entire decade so people were already having questions about their government
and then what happened in the 60s as well Vietnam and Ashley's done fantastic exclusive research on that
but that's another major thing that that was going on while the bullshit in Vietnam was
going on and and tons of innocent Vietnamese were getting slaughtered and we everyone hears about
the American our guys our boys getting slaughtered which tens of thousands ended up dying for bullshit
war but very few people ever talk about the millions of Vietnamese innocent people that got
massacred for bullshit reasons and in order to distract from that bullshit what happened
oh yeah we're gonna send people to the moon everyone yay like a happy joyous story this is
happy this is american exceptionalism and that is the reason why they would fake the fucking moon
landings it's no different than today where you have israel genociding palestinians and people
forget about that it's happening and yet oh we're hearing a little bit of f you know
bill clinton and trump getting it on and the epstein files and all this shit it's all distractions
it's really the same story different era and so the moon landings for me are when you look at a
couple of things you look at the era of the 1960s it was all analog shit man i mean it's easy to
forget analog stuff because we've been used to digital um having everything all this high-end
technology we see i mean you can get a fucking 65 inch flat screen tv for like 300 at wal-mart which
is insane to think about only a few years ago that same tv was costing you several thousand
dollars you know what i mean but we're led to believe that we made it to the moon
with that technology analog technology in the 60s but we haven't been able to replicate
the endeavor all these decades later and we are told it's because of money we don't they're not
getting money but yet you look at their annual budget it's still in the billions of fucking
dollars so don't you can miss me with the money shit and then you you'll have other people
say well you know at the time they had they had spent they had a percentage of the gross domestic
product as their budget okay so why the fuck did they delete the original footage because we're
told they deleted and recorded over footage to save money but yet they had a percentage of the gdp
so you can you can kill all their excuses for it we're also told well if it was fake the russians
would have taught we had uh dmitry regosiv top level russian cosmonaut saying that it was bullshit
americans never made it to the moon landing but when he says it oh well you know he's a crackpot
conspiracy theories no motherfucker what you are doing is moving the goalpost so don't forget
don't forget to just try to interrupt you but all these motherfuckers coming in for the
moon landing they talk about our american nasa program that was the german nasa program
we took all the nazis over here thousands for the program and we're talking about it's for
americans and for our program when they're the ones that started all this shit in the first place
no one's talking about it but i'll shut up continue i was interjecting there for a minute
you were on a tangent and i suck so continue i don't know where i left off but i mean it's
pretty much um you can just when you look at just using common sense you know i've done
several shows if anyone's interested on the moon landings i i've done over 10 episodes with my
friends from the apollo detectives who have a pretty big channel on youtube these guys are
super intelligent i often say this but it's the damn truth whenever i do shows with them a lot of
times i don't even know what the fuck they're talking about they're talking about giggle bites
and zaggle bites and fucking electrons and noron i don't even know what the fuck they're talking
about um but it sounds cool and a lot of times i i always say i'm i'm the idiot of the group
and so i just try to represent the people that are probably not at that level so i ask
simple questions and i've learned a lot just doing no shows so i feel i tell people if you
have questions listen to all those episodes we've done um and apart from those episodes that i've
done i also have uh david mcgowan's wagon the moon doggie audiobook on my uh platforms as well
and i've also done one-on-one episodes with other folks on moon landings i've got
hours and hours and hours i mean days worth of moon landing content if you really want to
i really go down that rabbit hole and i feel confident if you listen to all the moon landing
stuff that we've done even if you believe the official story or maybe you have your your kind of
in you know maybe we did maybe we didn't i feel confident you consume all that material
you're gonna be like yeah we more than likely probably didn't make it now i'm not one of these
absolutists um that say oh yeah it's definitely this way that way maybe we did i but show me some
good evidence for it i just so far no because like we did that whole circle jerk with like fucking
katie perry and all the women by the way they're calling them astronauts real astronauts they
spend their entire lives training to go up into space and we blow up these bitches in the middle
of like you know to the atmosphere and we call this bullshit about how awesome they are as
astronauts i go why are we spending like a billion dollars for them to go up and just flat into orbit
for like 11 seconds versus you know and then everyone's like well if this if this happened
wouldn't we wouldn't we know because people can't keep their mouth shut and like stanley kuperk
was doing that shit in all the films i mean between the shining i mean he got killed for
eyes wide shut now that we're looking at jeffrey ebbstein stuff with all the sacrifice
stuff and hollywood elites but i mean he gave a couple winks and nods in the shining like the
kids wearing the apollo shirt 237 is the name of the hotel room where everything goes south which is
237 000 miles is where we're supposed to be from the moon and uh like you know the
windows and all the stuff it doesn't make sense inside the hotel what about the intro where
he's meeting with the you know the guy that runs it you know and he's getting the job as the
as the keeper and the guy looks like jfk no shit and yeah and he's got little american flags
it's like the jfk white house so yeah the the easter eggs for all that are all there
and i know my apollo detective friends have reservations you know like they don't think
maybe kubrick was all the way in maybe some of the staff that worked with kubrick okay more than
likely so there's different theories i don't think there's nothing one thing i do want to
say because i often see people post this um video that allegedly has an old kubrick saying
we never made it to the moon and a lot of people share it that's not real that's not
the um share or talk about you know is accurate because if it's easily debunkable then like if
you're trying to show someone they're like no that's 100 provable a provable lie so then
they're not going to take you serious when it counts so you always have to be careful although
sometimes it is hard to to consistently um know if you're right or not you know so
but i just wanted to say that because they're i don't know if you're familiar with that video
that i'm talking about the the kubrick deathbed confession video there's so many like deathbed
like confessionals like when it comes to any of this shit same thing with one of the guys at
nasa that apparently on his uh his headstone it is a quote from the bible basically saying
that the firmament were werner von brahn i think that one is actually accurate um are you
putting up down the rabbit hole on i'm not a flatterther um i know i know there's a lot of people that
believe that and i don't know i i i i i like to have people believe whatever they feel like
it just do research on it i've done tons of research on platters it's not like i'm one of
these people that dismiss you know there's people that will hear flatter and immediately dismiss
it yeah i'm not one of those people i've actually dug dug in quite a bit into flatter none of the
arguments convince me now there's some that good arguments that they make you know you shouldn't
trust nasa yeah i i agree with that um but i guess for me personally and maybe this is where
we may disagree for me a lot of the flatter always goes back to like biblical stuff and and so if
you believe in the bible then it's for you it may be real for me that's where i'm like yeah i'm gonna
need a little bit more hardcore evidence for that from my standpoint yeah i'm not a flatterther but
for me though i always joke even when it comes like to sex stuff like oh i don't yuck anybody's
yum like any of the shit that they're into and if you i always tell ash or my listeners like
before like if you would have told me 10 years ago there was a fucking island where
elites were like sacrificing kids i would have told you you were crazy but the more i get into i had a
near-death experience so my i i saw the other side and weird shit so i'm not hard sold on flatterthers
but i don't shit on people that are flatterthers either because we don't understand because even
einstein's relativity of time um you know past present and future is going on reincarnation
like i believe all of the shit is possible and that you know i'm also a big believer in the
egg theory i've talked about this in the show before you're familiar with the egg theory
at all we see when i hear egg i think of jeff eppstein and that's on a good visual that i like
egg theory is basically we're all one consciousness and we're all experiencing life as each other at
some point so past present and future are happening at all at the same time even when you
reincarnate you can go back into time like even during the renaissance time as somebody else
and that it's all just happening over and it's like a time loop and there's like millions and
millions and millions and infinite amounts of different dimensions that you kind of go through
and you learn as a as a higher power yeah there's that whole rabbit hole is something that i've been
traversing lately um and i've been hearing a lot of the panpsychism arguments and in a
weird way i'm kind of leaning towards that um in part part of the reason for it is because
i i guess why panpsychism really really spoke to me is because
we live in the world where we have to we only get two options for a lot of things
it's either black or it's white what about what about brown what about pink no it's either
black or white okay it's either uh the biblical creation story or the big bang
what about this other option it's either republican or democrat way wait a minute what about this so
you know so i'm in a spot where i'm always looking for that third fourth other option i don't i'm
not cool with just the here's only this option to look at or this other option i my mind now says
fuck all that i'm not i'll listen to it but if it's not convincing me i want to explore other
avenues um you know i've been talking about for the longest time that that i believe jeff eppstein
was allowed to escape yep and when i first said that i was looked at as crazy as luni
because we were only presented two options he he either killed himself or someone took him out
and i'm like nah man he's probably escaped and so this is what i do with a lot of shit
i hear a lot of noise or hear a lot of stuff and if it makes sense i'll go with it but if it doesn't
then man i want to look at all the other options available and so that's where panpsychism comes
in they kind of have like they believe in the scientific stuff but they also believe that
science is is largely based in mathematics things you can quantify with mathematics and
stuff like that and so panpsychism says well there's sometimes where that's not enough right and so you
need a little extra and so they're not necessarily saying it has to be this abrahamic god or whatever
but that maybe there's something out there that we just don't have the tools to measure with
and maybe we never will and so that's where panpsychism kind of falls into which is
what i'm vibing with these days ash because i i know we haven't given you a second oh yeah
so i wasn't going to bring it up but fuck it because you're just bringing it up because
you've talked about the moon landing also don't want to bore you but we can go back to that as
well but this is just let's talk about it all because i'm so excited to have you on
but you brought up jeffrey eppstein with him being you know alive ash did you you and i
actually and i sent each other so much shit on our phones have you seen any of the
shit lately with they saying that they brought like fbi and they had a bunch of boxes they
brought the body out and they saw him leave so i mean what are your thoughts on what we see
saying as far as for eppstein yeah so um on the same day that you and i did our episode ray weasy
had done one um that afternoon as well and they had some interesting stuff that they brought up
but one thing that i want to to bring up that i think is really interesting is
something that we talk about a lot is that obviously eppstein is the tip of the iceberg and we've
had so many more instances of people running these types of rings that have been documented but they
don't get the air time that they really should and actually the same guy that weasy was talking
about wagging the moon doggie dave mcgowan his book program to kill starts out his the very first
chapter is called the pedophocracy and he talks about mark dutrou in belgium of the dutrou
fair who was in a lot of ways there's a lot of overlap and he he seems very similar like this
middleman manager that eppstein may have also been and yet he was doing very harmful things to
these children and girls as well but the other thing the other similarities was that leading
into 2019 there was a huge push online people were saying eppstein didn't kill himself the
memes were everywhere like i have an eppstein didn't kill himself hat it was blowing up and
then we saw the introduction of you know the covid-19 thing now was it because of that or was it
time to pull the trigger at that time i obviously have no idea but i find it to be weird when
people actually outside of all political ideology were agreeing on one thing and what they don't
want at this time is unity for sure and we could see that with the algorithmic division that is
constantly being stoked and it was really horrible during covid and it really hasn't stopped so
i think that that is something worth considering but there's so many overlaps with the dutrou
affair and dutrou actually did escape and there was a huge outcry somebody criticized me for not
calling it out it's called the white march um i just didn't want to get anything wrong uh it
was a show but it was called the white march but but so many people i think they said maybe like
30 of the country in belgium was protesting the corruption surrounding the dutrou affair
so it was building building building so i think that they learned from that
and i also think that there's a lot of overlap and dutrou actually was able to escape at least
twice if i recall correctly so i very much think that there's similarities there and i know that
uh weezy has a theory because he ended up bringing up hillary's brother but it ties in with what you
were saying right like could someone have of course we're speculating here we don't know but
something like that is possible and then really quick to tie this stuff in with what we were
talking about as far as um the the moon landing and i have a couple things that i want to just
bullet points to go over regarding moon landing and vietnam but the common denominator is something
serving as a potential major distraction to get everybody's eye off the ball and so that was
what obviously happened in the epsi case when everybody was saying he didn't kill himself
people were unified on that and they wanted the truth no matter if you're in the truth
or a liberty community or right left whatever people thought that something was up and then
we ended up having covid 19 happened and that that actually tracks with several events from
vietnam to the moon landing when you know some major things some something scandals because
it was a very unpopular war so people knew what was up with that and and we can you know
wheezy and i did a show on this and um there's so much more to talk about even than we covered
but it was atrocious ray like the fact that absolutely horrific right now the fact that
we're talking about the dumbest shit on the news right now because i live in california so you
know we have fake fluffy news i'm like i don't care about a high speed chase i don't give a
fuck about what like madonna did with her 12 year old boyfriend i don't give a fuck the
fact that you know there are emails so apparently i even i can't stand it right now but pam bondy
even though i'm a republican finally finally just redacted all the names no one is talking about
the fact that bill gates jeffrey eppstein i forgot the other person talking about how they
want to get rid of poor people and they were coming up with this idea and that was right
before covid to give people a vaccine so they could get rid of a large portion of this world
that is you know considered in the poverty level like okay so we're not talking about that
and the fact that once the the covid vaccine was released 100 of us now because of shedding
can be located by a satellite because we have nanoparticles in our body i can be gps tracked
no matter wherever the fuck i am and everyone's like oh that's a conspiracy theory but now
it's real but don't talk about it like let's just not talk about it that's fucking nuts to me
yeah and i think that's part of the information warfare aspect of this right like i think that
even if you have really good high level researchers who are looking at this and doing good work on it
there's only so much that they can find and cover and try to verify so this is information warfare
my opinion um to obscure and bury things in there that you know maybe would really be
giant news if everybody was on the same page well i'll have to ask cuz we see in case my listeners
haven't listened to your episode yet one what's the episode number but also to what's your theory
as far as clinton's brother being involved in this whole epstein thing it was the last episode
we did and i'm trying to pull that up yeah so you know so to get some traffic directed
your way so they can listen to it you can get the whole deep dive on it because i'm i'm gonna
go back and listen because i went through and just kind of found like what was super popular on
your podcast and i started now i'm a listener uh but i've got to play catch play catch up
293 yeah i got a lot of great feedback they there was quite a few people that told me that was like
out of all the epstein shows that had come out that week they said this one was hands down
which is humbling you know like i'm not i'm not a whitney web or any of that
shit i'm just not yet fucking garbage man i i don't i probably never will be and i'm fine with that
yeah so for the theory for um you know for epstein maybe being smuggled out it goes a little
something like uh when you look at tony rodham that was healer's brother tony rodham if you google him
you will quickly see his images come up you're like holy shit that's not epstein no it's not
epstein that's tony rodham and he died oh my god he looks just like him he died a couple of months
prior to jeff epstein's quote unquote official death uh i think i think he died in june and epstein was
pronounced dead allegedly on august 20th so the theory is that they froze his body
and they concocted the story all right you know that gave him two months to concoct the story to
okay how are we gonna do it oh yeah we'll just we'll say the cameras fucking did this
we'll make it look like we'll make we'll purposely make it look like it's either he got killed
or he suicided you know let them let them fucking clowns fight about it while we sneak his ass out
and when you look at the cause of death for tony rodham um there is no cause of death
and it was announced from none other than hillary herself via twitter oh my god and and not
not only that not only that tony rodham was kind of the black sheep of the clinton family
and if you ascribe to the clinton body count theory that is not far-fetched at all because the
next question would be like well that's her brother she would never do you know do you
know how many people have died under mysterious circumstances under uh that that are associated
with the clintons so with this guy his death not being announced it was her his own sister
announcing it who we can't trust worth the shit and looking just like the doppelganger
to me it is not far-fetched at all that the body that was willed out was that of tony rodham
well even that side picture because i remember i can't say where i work but i remember like
one of the people i worked with was like i remember months ago i was saying that it
didn't his ear lobes his nose it didn't look didn't look like him and that uh like you know
obscene has a very specific nose it's more of a hooked nose this guy's was a little more like
like lower like straight like a tony rodham ish yes a little yes exactly and i am literally
listening to you talk right now and i am manipulating this picture like i just turned a picture of him
sideways and i was like that's him that's his body that's yeah i don't think it's a far-fetched
i don't well i it wasn't my own theory i had heard it but it wasn't it's funny because
when i heard it my mind was blown i was like well i'm gonna talk about it and then
the first time i talked about it a week later sam trippley started talking about it like it was
his fucking theory i'm like did you stole that from me he listens to my show but he would never
have me on for whatever reason and it's fine it's all good my sister used to rep him back in
the day i love sam trippley but again i i i love us listening to his show because he just
doesn't give me flying fuck since you are a fan of his i'll just i'll leave it at that let's just
put it that way okay i'm a fan of his comedy i started listening to tinfoil hat because like
no don't tell me that ray respect points uh you know i like all comedy because no not his
not not now if you saw trippley in the early 2000s like he was pitching shows like with hookers
and stuff back in the day before everyone else is fucking doing it like he doesn't give it when he
was on drugs he was way funnier he didn't even fuck i don't know if he listened to him when he
used to do drugs i can't see people think i'm being a hater but i'm not being a hater because i
my views on him is he's a he's a good podcast host he throws an entertaining show i'm giving
them props where they're due and he does a real good job as far as his comedy holy i don't know
what people see i'm like this shit sucks how the hell is he making money touring the country i like him
i like hinge cliff i like i mean i don't think rogan's that funny i think rogan's a great podcaster
but i don't think his comedy is that great but like that's how i feel about trippley's
rogan and tripple that whole comedy scene for me there's only a couple guys that i i find
somewhat funny that would be um shane gillis i love is a funny guy yeah what's that dude
that looks like a lesbian haircut guy um uh uh i hear you're talking about he's kind of acts like
he's a retard he had trump on a show yeah yeah fio fio van yes lesbian haircut he's he's funny
like he's a funny guy shane gillis the funny guy but other than that the rest of those crowd i
call the joe rogan experience the the new laurel canyon um it's just a bunch of bullshit
sigh up influencers and trippley runs around in in that little sphere and if he's not part of it he
sure defends the shit out of his friends that are involved in that shit so that's where i that's
my stance on it and i know people disagree with it i fuck them like i just know right
around answer my show like yeah like i said everyone has their thing that's why i like
comedy there's different genres and i just like to laugh so i i like there's so much
wildness in this world right now if i can i've watched sticks and stones by dave chappelle
so many fucking times just watching the shit over and over again because i just like to laugh
and i think maybe maybe you're right maybe because i listened to trippley like years ago
but i also love his podcast so much maybe that's why i enjoy his stand up because i know where
he's coming from just let's hear him talk um that's what i feel see that's my uh psychologist
had i go i think the reason people find him funny and i didn't even know you'd like to show
i think a lot of them are listeners of his yeah they're already fans of his show so now they
have like some kind of a personal connection so i'm gonna go support my friend but see that's
where i'm like see you don't really think he's funny it's more like you're giving them a
little a sympathy laugh like good job at a boy good job sammy fair enough he does have some good
but when it comes to conspiracy theories he's got some good motherfuckers in that show he's got
good people to come on there and start talking trash and uh but i don't know if they're like you're
to your point i don't know if they're they're ripping it from other people's pods but you
know this will i do listen to his show but i didn't hear anything about tony so that's not
yeah he brought it up once because i used to listen to him um i used to listen to sam's show all
the time i used to be a big rogan but um i think the sam shit i don't want to get into it but after
a while it got annoying because he would flirt with me like he was gonna have me on and then
didn't flirt with me like he was gonna have me on and then one day i just cut loose and i
vented and ever since then he's ghosted ghosted you but if you can't handle the truth i mean
that's the thing people want people to kiss their ass all the time you got to kiss the ring or
you know and are we gonna be honest with people are we gonna be bullshitting people just or
kissing ass just to get certain favors done um i'm not that literally you're like the poster
child right now for the name of your show what is true with podcasts like it's true like what is
the truth what makes people happy it's the best of problem is people don't want to hear the truth
anymore they want to be pandered to even when it comes to conspiracy theory like group of people
like uh i listened that there's like a group of us on discord and if you don't match a lot of
people's like what what they are looking to to hear for themselves they will ghost the shadow
you quickly people have the are not willing to be like gumby i'm like you got to bend a
little bit you got to sway and be fluid and move because everything's changing you don't like it's so
fast and history keeps getting rewritten by the way i keep doing external hard drives because the
internet keeps getting stuff taken off because you know what it what is the truth what is the
history it's all being rewritten as we speak well that and i know actually hasn't said
nothing now i would love to hear her thoughts but real quick this is one of the reasons why
one of the biggest themes for my little show is i encourage people to get out of that left right
bullshit paradigm i see too many people in the truth commune so if we go back to the 9 11 days
it was republicans george bush republicans pushing for war in iraq hell yeah let's get
into fucking iraq and it was the democrats that said no fuck that george bush is a murder
he's a genocidal maniac fuck him it was a lot of left-wingers that were truthers back then people
forget you fast forward to today a lot of republicans now are most mostly truthers and a lot of
left-wingers bought into the covid hysteria and put on the fucking mask it was disappointing to
see a lot of legends from the 9 11 days bush covid bullshit and the reason for it is because
they got caught in that left right bullshit and so now there's it seems to be another reckoning where
people that didn't buy the covid shit and pushed against it and the people that fell into it now
they're having another reckoning with the epstein files now all these republicans that said fuck
fuck the biden administration with the covid they were blah blah blah but now they're supporting
ice the mass surveillance state it's like what the fuck don't you guys fucking never learn and it's
so irritating because people get caught up with this left and right bullshit and when you ascribe
oh i'm a republican i'm i'm proud republican sooner or later the fucking pendulum's gonna
swing and if you're still stuck on that fucking side guess what you're gonna be wrong when it
swings again and vice versa if you were a truther in 9 11 days but you remained a democrat
you were wrong when covid hit so this is one of the themes that i'm always pushing like
fuck the left fuck the right they're all bullshit and if you look at history they have switched
sides over and over through history at one point the the democrats were the conservative party
the radical republicans were the quote unquote liberals and they fucking switch so if they
switch sides who are they really telling you the fucking truth and it's it gets demoralizing
for me this kind of goes back to the starting like this is where i'm at i'm kind of demoralized
with a lot of this shit man people that didn't buy the covid scam are now buying oh yeah trump
is a good guy he's fighting he's fighting the deep state and all this fucking bullshit like
when are y'all gonna fucking learn and i i get fed up with it and i'll get off my rambling
what's up ashley go ash i love you weasy this is great and i was thinking when i was like oh you
got him you got him ray he's going he's he did um so i i agree and this is one of the things that
you and i have talked about ray and of course we easy knife talked about is like where do we
fall and where were we and where we fall now so i this is something that i've been talking to
about is like this is why i'm working on you to try to get you to be an anarchist or whatever
because i do that was one of the things that whenever i kind of
had my own realizations very gradually of like seeing the way that i saw the sides be manipulated
and it is you know like like what we easy was saying it goes back and forth issue to issue
of like people well in my opinion of people being right about different things and i use the gauge
just because of like what is my like what are my ethics what do i believe in so if we subscribe
to the to an anti-war anti-imperialist um you know ideology then anytime we see the war
drums banging that's going to be a no for me right obviously the war is the health of the
state and the first casualty of any war is the truth but i think that is a is just what i use
as a guideline so if they're banging the war drums and they're trying to make
the spin in this particular situation is maybe you're trying to make ukraine look like the
victims then we need to look and of course the ukrainian people are victims but when
we're dealing with governments then we need to look more at the history like that there had
been a coup in the area that russian speakers were forbidden to speak russian that this was a
contested area that vladimir putin who i do not think is a good guy by the way i think he's a
globalist just like everyone else but they there was um an agreement that nato would not
continue to build up on russia's border and that's exactly what they did in addition to the coup
in 2014 so we we just see like what we easy saying the back and forth the back and forth so
they're right on either side 50 of the time in my opinion if you if you were to go let's say you're
not even an anarchist but let's say that you wanted to be a constitutionalist these things are not
in a line with the constitution so it's basically like deciding what where your values lie and do
they lie in someone handing you your values and does that you know is that what does that sit
well with you and if you're fine like i just want to support the republican party because of x y and z
or the democratic party or whatever like i think you need to back to wheezy show like what is
truth you need to find that for yourself and and just you know some people i don't think care about
being logically consistent and that's something that personally matters to me so i try to stay
there not that i'm always there but i'm always trying you know so i think that this is having
these conversations really facilitates the kind of thought that i think is needed because even if
people like what you were saying ray and what wheezy was saying that i'll listen to you so if we
can facilitate conversations between people who are not in the same space i think we can bring
up really good subjects for people to actually think critically about and that's one of the things
i would hope that people understand is that if we're thinking critically then we are realizing that
there is a goal to manipulate our emotions to get us to feel and subscribe to some ideology
some type of way and we don't have to do that i was having some discussion with some i can't
say where i work um you know ash we'll tell wheezy offline but like you're talking to someone
and during covid wheezy i was wearing a maga hat in california i didn't give a fuck i dressed up as
aoc instead of taxa rich fake gas bitch for halloween costume like i was a hardcore you know i have my
guns you know you know big second amendment girl i'd go hunting and fishing and you know out here
but once the once the whole things drop with ebstin for someone who dealt with pedophilia
and ebstin or uh trump was like there's no ebstin list it's bullshit i was like okay so we
can all agree we can all agree now that whether you're a democrat or republican if you're a fucking
politician you're a piece of shit it doesn't matter anymore so when it comes to left or right for me
i'm like just truth i don't give a shit anymore uh it's it's funny because people just want to get
online and have these like big old fucking culture wars and you know republican democrat wars i
noticed that the especially like white liberal women that want to fight with me because i'm
mixed uh once i talk to them in person you just actually have a conversation and they're not
a keyboard warrior i realize the divisiveness of what they're just doing even with what we see on our
podcast and you know actually you know i'll have anybody on my show but i'm with you weasy like but
you know if you would talk to me you know nine ten months ago when trump first got into office
what was going on with the biden administration with kamala i was like trump or die he's he
for the people no now i will say that humbly say that they're not for the people it's down
it comes down to money it's all bullshit but see you snapped out of it um that was my awakening um
it came to politics i was a bernie bro i wanted bernie to win i didn't agree with everything he said
but i was like he at least comes off sincere um i remember specifically when i was hardcore
rooting for bernie rooting for bernie um there was a hit job on the meeting on the news where
they're like oh yeah bernie sanders net worth is like 500 000 and like 400 000 is tied to his house
in vermont i'm like that's you guys are making fun of him for that that's what makes me like him
even fucking more right because he's a real fucking person fast forward to now he's a
multi-millionaire not hard to figure out what happened there but the point is it was that deception
where i had my i put this guy on a pedestal he's gonna change everything around and
another reason why i started my podcast back in 2019 was because i seen a lot of people in the
quote-unquote truth community pushing trump trump is gonna go in there everyone's against
them the lame stream media is against them if and i was i was yelling in live chats trump
and apstein trump and apstein and everyone was saying you're fucking crazy you have no basis for
what you're saying they view do it's funny after six years of doing this shit i've been told i've
been fucking crazy and wrong and many times i've been proven right over time i when the
trump assassination happened that very fucking day i said this shit's fake as fuck and a lot of people
even my own listeners were like wheezy i agree with you most of the time but i think that was real
and now a lot of people like yeah you know what i think you were right there i'm not trying to
toot my own horn but i guess i could toot it a tiny bit but the point is i started my podcast
because i saw a lot of people in the quote-unquote truth community pushing trump and i was like
fuck this guy he is not your friend bernie sanders was not our fucking friend none of these
motherfuckers are our friends and now i'm starting to see a lot of people kind of gravitate towards
a thomas massie towards a rocanon on the democrat side these two are against both of their sides
we need to we need to help them and protect them then you have thomas massie all my breaks
are good if something happens to me bloody bitch shut the fuck up they're playing roles
they're they're beating the victims you know that they're calling out you know they're the
straight shooters so now everyone so now you're gonna see their role you're gonna see a lot of
these trump republicans that are now pissed off and disenfranchised by trump now because
of the ebsi files who are they gonna go to next oh shit thomas massie on the democrat
side rocan so it's all your the point i'm trying to make is none of these motherfucking politicians
will have your back and if you i know it's it's easy to get back oh well they're saying good
shit i'm not saying i'm not saying i disagree with what they're saying they are saying the
good shit but that's their fucking role that's what people need to understand people are gonna
get excited with what they have to say oh my gosh they're pushing against the grain their
life is in jeopardy bitch it's a fucking role get it through your head but unfortunately a lot of
people won't when thomas massie starts running they're gonna get on the massie train you're gonna
see democrats get on the rocan and train and oh that's gonna be our answer none of these
fuckers are our answer and that's the that's the black pill i guess that i that i gotta say
until we stop allowing our senators and you know local congressmen making money off
of us and having no accountability and insider trading it's just gonna get fucking worse so i know
we're getting up to an hour i always like to do just an hour so i'm gonna ask you both kind of
closing what my thought is when we see was you know going off in a good way is i want to know
both of your guys opinions because let's talk about republicans just to end up with you know
for someone who has been republican basically her whole life and it's not going what the fuck
why do you think nick fuentes has become so big now in the community like with the
grippers and everything everything else and the republican party is so divided with him so
we deal let you go and then ash let you close it out and then we'll wrap this bad boy up
yeah nick fuentes i did a show on it it it has the most views on of all my rumble videos
has like 40 000 views on rumble which is pretty cool um we expose him he's he's always been
a grifter he's the one that and we were telling people this and i remember when we did the show
there was a lot of people that were mad but now a lot of people are coming around like oh
shit maybe you guys were right and the grift was easy to see here you have this polished kid a young
kid that can speak in good rhetoric he was trained that way there's nothing natural about that he's a
fucking actor and his whole role was to push antisemitism you know like oh he's always talking
about the jays he's always that's his fucking role but when you really see what he's doing he's
helping because it my my guess what it seems like it's clear is to crush more free speech
let's get people to get yeah screw the juice screw the juice they want that to happen
so they can clamp down even harder we're already losing our free speech as it is
but we need more and what an excellent little character this nick fuentes is who hangs around
with cat boys who doesn't mess with women a little gay guy a little gay twink is the voice of these
arian proud nationalists get the fuck out of here it's a straight up and people but but that's
what us the role of a scythe influencer is it's too fool you but if you it's easy to look past it
if you are in the know so i'll leave that and i'll leave ashlia finish it off
how could i possibly follow that um but i agree so we these these are the exact red flags for me
when we're looking at any major influencer first of all we know that we are out here in the space
and have been for a while we's he's been grinding for six years i've been podcasting for
probably at least three and a half four years i know that you have uh your podcast is just over
a year old but you have been in the space and learning for a really long time so we have seen
the rise of what is today's modern day influencer and what do they have in common so they do have
similar roots and what we have is these people that are very well spoken at a very young age
almost like they were picked out of a college course to be presented for a certain issue
and this this and i know that you're a charlie kirk fan right but um i i i do put him in that
category as well but he's somebody that was very well spoken at a very young age and he has
a certain charisma while still holding up kind of the values of of looking like a
very well put together conservative smart young man and and i'm not saying he wasn't but i'm just
saying that these are the things that women know he's he just can't pick women right yeah not a fan
yeah looking for you for sure and then we we did see that with nick fuentes we saw that with
kandace owens these people are very very good speakers and i i want people to realize how
important having somebody who is very well articulated and who is very good at their job if
their job is to get you thinking and emotional like that is an art but what we know with the
mind control experiments that have been being done at least since the 40s and you know probably
longer than that but at least since then and then documented here in the united states
that they have the control of human behavior down to a science and that was that was mind
controlling individuals so now they have a lot more information because they have all of our
data that they have stolen from us through everything that you watch everything that you
click on everything that you like everything that you spend like oh in your in your doom
scrolling like oh i spent like two seconds on this ad versus a point two seconds they know
that stuff and it is all collected they're working on all of that so they know also when a story is
introduced about x y and z they that is information dissemination following so they're paying attention
to where the story goes who sees it who likes it who outrage who is outraged by that all these
things so it's getting better and better and better and that's the the power of an algorithmic
control and that is exactly how these people were put in this place to become very popular
and trending and to give them the look of authenticity of starting at the ground floor
but i don't think that in most cases you see anybody in that particular space who actually
was organic that they have funding backing training to become really a cult of personality
and then i'll end on agreeing with weezy that what we have really seen is the rise of what i call
controlled noticing of people making comments about you know who's that they think that they
are responsible for everything or that they're all the problems or whatever and there's a reason
that that rhetoric has been allowed to become very popular that it's in the ether and that
it's starting to trend and that people are saying outlandish things so you may have somebody like
jake shields of former um UFC who is making or asking valid questions about what what questions
should we maybe ask about what we've been told about world war two for example however he also
sprinkles that through with a ton of like really bold statements and claims and some
outlandish stuff and what that does is that people see that they start liking on that and they
now you have been identified that you're liking that and that you you know that this is the type
of rhetoric that you are subscribing to and i so i think that it is a trap you know i think that
what we're seeing is not the result of one specific group of people i think that we have
very powerful entities that overlap so in walter boward's operation mind control book
he calls it the cryptocracy and that's what it is it is linking networks of people who have been able
to put themselves in positions of power who have overlapping interests sometimes it's not the
same interests but a lot of times it is and so i think that nick fluent has was really
an influential person right place at the right time in front of the right people we know that he
was um at january 6 we know what at least what we were told what happened to regular people who
showed up for j6 even if they didn't go anywhere near near that building they were locked up they
were harassed by the fbi but nothing happened to him and nothing happened to reyeps and now
he he kind of was uh punished for that and then exactly what we see was talking about then
he goes on to his channel is like growing like nobody's business but what it's a part of in my
opinion is narrative management and capturing people who are listening to him and it's not
going to be good in my opinion he's the most censored guy that everyone knows about
well my whole thing is they just released you know right now with you know palantir
i keep talking about on the show we're talking about you know the algorithm what's going on as far as
monitoring everything that we're doing now they just just did a whole thing in europe now that
if you for smart cities they're kind of monitoring your your facebook and all your social media and
if you go to a certain city more than an allocated time they told you to they're now charging you
93 dollars per time that you go and now they're implementing the smart city in arizona and
they are going to attach palantir as well with the camera system so it's a car-free city
so they can monitor us for our safety and um they have gotten rid of i told you like 11 000 words
with um with ai and what they're teaching kids and we're being spoonfed the same bullshit and
i've always said this on the show we can look at the same picture there's different comments to
enrage us keep us divided and uh and that's a wrap so for guys any questions that you guys have
for wheezy please please please go check out his podcast uh i think you're on all the
platforms so rumble is the big one that i caught you on it's uh what is the truth podcast
check him out he's awesome um i will put all the links in the description you guys know ashley
you guys know her from nights on the storm of the storm uh and she's gotten her whole old
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super helps the podcast i cannot thank you both enough for being on this uh and guys as always
stay curious stay skeptical but always keep seeking the radical truth and thank you so much