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It starts with a simple question and ends in objective reality.

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Through our journey from there to here, we find one another and ourselves.

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And as the next 24 hours breaks free from our last, we gaze onward in reflection of the day.

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Welcome to the daily wrap up Friday, March 13, 2026.

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Thank you for joining me today.

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Hey, Friday the 13th.

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Well, I got a special co-host joining me today to discuss some Epstein smuggling network

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conversation that I'm very excited to get to talk about some Iran conversation Marines

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deployed, but a lot to get to with Whitney Web here to discuss the in depth part of

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all of it.

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How are you?

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Good to have you back.

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Hey, doing good, Ryan.

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I, your intro is cool.

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Oh, thank you.

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I had a really, you know, I really do want to just shout.

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He doesn't want me to say his name.

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He's just a fan, like, you know, a follower like the rest, but reached out and said he

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does editing.

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And, you know, he's, I may, he's made the I may one.

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He's very talented.

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And it's just honored to have somebody like that who cares about the show.

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But yeah, I love that new intro.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I'm so glad to have you back on.

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There's, you know, there's so many different things we can get into.

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One thing I wanted to start with was announcing something that we are going

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to be doing on limited hangout.

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And so I didn't know if you wanted to give out, you know, discuss that.

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Yeah, well, members of unlimited hangout already know, but we're going to

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be moving a little more into video because unfortunately a lot of people

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don't read as much.

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Yeah.

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So anyway, not only am I going to be doing a video show for people that

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don't want to read my articles.

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It's sad, but true.

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I don't know.

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Just reality, I guess.

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But also you, Ryan, along with Derek Brows of the conscious resistance

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will be doing a show for unlimited hangout as well.

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And we'll have more to say about that in the next few weeks.

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I'm looking forward to it too.

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It'll be, you know, as I kind of a reevaluation review of some of the

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written form articles, which I think is very important because it's

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sad that people don't read as much.

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But I also think it's, it's, there's a lot of people out there.

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Even though they do read, it's about digesting the information.

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And you hear this as well.

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Like, you know, because there's so much information, I get the same

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criticism or rather just, you know, statement about the work that I do

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on these long form shows where it's difficult people to absorb it all.

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So this will be a way to sort of help people try to digest the

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different important parts and go through it all.

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So I'm really looking forward to it.

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Let's sort of be a good show.

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Nice.

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Well, let's start with one thing that I wanted to kind of just discuss

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and address sort of like I just sat in the table for this point.

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There's so many other angles we could tie into it.

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But before the selection process, we had the really, as we've

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discussed many times already, kind of the foundation of why

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the IMA was started as you kind of came to me and say, you saw

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the, what was building and, you know, kind of developed into

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this idea of something that we needed to come together to,

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to, I guess, fight against, resist and, you know, whatever

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we saw coming.

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And that was just about nonpartisan objective coverage.

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And ultimately it became called, it became labeled blackpilled

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or purity test and all this.

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Now, all this time later, almost every single thing that we

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were worried about discussing is where we are.

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And it's not about necessarily going, we, you know, Victor

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lap point.

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It's just about acknowledging that one, that this

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stuff was easy to see then.

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And it's about recognizing who didn't really call that

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out.

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And so one thing I wanted to highlight was a tweet that

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you had shared back then.

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It's interesting time.

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He was just recently on Tucker Carlson, as I understand it.

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You wrote in 2024, one thing I've learned this election cycle

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is that a lot of people who have claimed to be anarchists

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or anti-states, excuse me, were really just waiting for

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the right king to come along.

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And Brett Weinstein says, you're not even close.

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Interesting.

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Just what are your thoughts about that and where we

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are now?

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Well, I mean, you could pull up more than one

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Brett Weinstein tweet, shitting on me for not

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joining the emotional wave of Hopium that brought

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Trump to when the, as you called it, the selection

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process in 2024.

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And yet to piggyback off of the point you brought up

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about the IMA, I noticed that those narratives were

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getting really pervasive and a lot of the attacks

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about reason to political arguments such as Trump

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was in power previously.

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Perhaps we should go back and see what he did when

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he was office last time because he's likely to repeat

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those things because also in the previous, that,

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that election before his first term, he made many

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campaign promises that he did not keep.

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Thus, it's very possible that he may not keep them

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again and that he will instead repeat or expand

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on the actions he did in his first term, which

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included, for example, try and start a war with

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Iran by blowing up Kassim Soleimani when he was

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on a diplomatic mission in another country.

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So, oh, and allegedly that was, you know, for

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partially motivated by religious reasons on the

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part of Kushner and also Mike Pompeo and Mike

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Pence and that crowd that was around Trump in the

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first administration.

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Have times really changed?

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I don't know.

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So anyway, I considered that a rational argument

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and a call to caution about writing on this,

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this emotional wave of Hopium that was very

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similar to what happened back when Obama was elected

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for the left.

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It was the right-leaning version of that and also

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bringing in independents who were interested in

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the promises of the Make America Healthy Again

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movement and trying to fold them into this

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coalition.

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And so, you know, honestly what I've noticed,

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and there were a few people that noticed this

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why it was happening, is that during the COVID

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era, you had a lot of quote, unquote,

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dissidents pop up who had like Brett Weinstein

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initially advocated for mask wearing or in the

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case of people like Michael Schellenberger advocated

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hysterically for lockdowns and then they get

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promoted as these sort of dissident figures

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in the immediate, you know, after 2020,

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I guess, and that interim and are sort of

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elevated and then they push everyone into

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voting for Trump.

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And a lot of, and there were terrible signs,

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I think, of this push in the sense that it was

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allowing the neoconservatives to rebrand because

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you had neoconservatives like notorious neocons

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like Frank Gaffney, for example,

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you know, became a stop vaccine passport guy

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toward the end of COVID.

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And so I think it's not a coincidence that these

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things were happening and that they were trying

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to seep their way into these movements.

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And then, you know, the ultimate goal was to direct

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people towards Trump who claims not to be a neocon

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but quite clearly is a neocon.

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I mean, it couldn't be more obvious.

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And so a lot of commentators, I think, you know,

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there's obviously people who were paid,

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but I think there's people that were really

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emotionally attached to the outcome they wanted

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to see and can't admit they were wrong.

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You have people in that camp that will continue

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inventing and spinning, you know, just spinning yarn

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to never be wrong about anything.

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You know, I call it the, well, it's the Tom DeLongo model.

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But there's a lot of other people that have sort of

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taken that in different ways and refused to admit

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that they were ever wrong about anything.

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And I think Brett Weinstein probably falls

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in that category.

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He and Walter Kern basically dog piled me on Twitter

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complaining that I didn't like Trump

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and didn't see that, you know, this belief

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that it was going to be some sort of like superhero

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riding in and saving civilization

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and immediately erasing all of our problems.

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Frankly, feeding that narrative to your followers

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was insanely detached from reality.

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And you should take some heat for that

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because it frankly, it was irresponsible

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of you to promote it.

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And the fact that, you know, Brett Weinstein,

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I mean, you can see pictures of him around

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with like the bandana on his face.

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This is how I wear my mask and blah, blah, blah.

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And early COVID, you know, these are people

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that when the crisis hits and things are very,

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you know, events come fast and heavy.

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I don't think you can turn to these people

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for a rational analysis of what's going on

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because they're very easily taken by emotional,

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the emotional propaganda and marketing of these events.

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And so he's done that, he did that with COVID.

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And then pivoted later when it was convenient

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and in some cases fashionable to do so

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in branding yourself as quote unquote anti-establishment

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and then, you know, you funnel people towards Trump.

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And, you know, here we are.

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And so, you know, maybe you have buyers remorse now

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like you did about coding master and COVID.

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But, you know, I don't know.

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I think people should wisen up and follow people

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like those of us in the IMA and others beyond that

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who have not fallen for those traps.

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And I think what we were talking about beforehand,

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which is an important point to add right there,

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is that, like you rightly pointed out,

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a lot of these people came in,

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and I should state before I even say this,

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that I'm all for people changing their minds,

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becoming aware of something.

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No matter how bad a track record,

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genuinely be seeing a thing and addressing the truth.

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We all should be for that.

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Yeah, sorry.

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I didn't mean to say that that's bad,

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just that he's been, he was increasingly,

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he was very arrogant about...

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You didn't at all.

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You didn't at all.

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I'm just spitting out my point.

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You framed that very well.

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My point is that, and we both agree,

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we all want that to happen.

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The difference here is that during the COVID-19 timeframe,

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there was a lot of, you know, just,

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it was obvious there were people

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that were either buying it or selling the lie

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and at the end, a lot of those people came around

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to start telling what we always were saying.

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Now again, the point is,

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some of them may have just seen it.

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That's good.

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The difference is, as you pointed out,

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when there came like the next big thing we're involved with,

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let's say Trump in the selection process,

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those people immediately fell back in

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and started pushing for the mainstream narrative.

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So now again, and this is the point I'm getting to,

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we were talking before,

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suddenly we have this new conversation with Iran and Israel,

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and these, as you were highlighting,

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some of the same figures

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are suddenly starting to do the same thing.

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Now, when it's difficult,

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now is the time.

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Well, they're jumping ship

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because it could threaten the, you know,

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their audience numbers at this point.

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And this is the bigger point,

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is that these people,

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whether it's just profiteering

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or trying to promote their own show,

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why suddenly do this when it's in their interest,

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not when it's most important to call it out

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and you were saying you see this happen.

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Yeah.

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Well, I think the people

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that were most motivated about audience,

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you could really see that during the 2024 campaigns

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because there was this emotional wave

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and people that were critical of it,

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like you and myself and others,

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were referred to as blackpilled

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and basically negative Nancy's.

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Don't listen to them.

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They'll make you feel sad and bad.

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Listen to us.

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We'll make you feel good

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with all these false promises

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of how Trump's going to come in

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and be daddy government

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and save everything for you.

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And let's, let's shoo away

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all those negative Nancy's.

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We don't need them here.

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I mean, it's just,

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I mean, it's kind of ridiculous on it.

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It was an insidious frankly

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because people during COVID,

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a lot of those audiences really saw

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that something was seriously wrong

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and instead of doing anything

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that could have changed that,

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they were told the only way to change that

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is in the ballot box

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between two political parties

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that are fundamentally controlled

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by the same forces

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and that that is the only way

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to resolve things.

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And anyone that says,

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offers any other solutions

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is a blackpilled nincompoop

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and they need to go be shut in the closet.

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I mean, it was just ridiculous.

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And clearly, you know,

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the main point overall, I think,

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is that there are people

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that do this maliciously, right?

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They intentionally side up next to something

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that people are already starting to see

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after the difficult part is over.

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You know, we were the ones

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chopping it down a lot of people, you know,

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out there with the machete

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hacking down the hard parts

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and they step over the top and go,

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hey, you know, the big story.

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And that happens every time.

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And it's...

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I mean, in that period of time,

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I had tons of people take my work.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And you basically pair bonded themselves

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with my work or my books

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to promote themselves

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and build trust with an audience.

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And then because I wasn't directing

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people towards Trump,

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they directed people towards Trump.

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Right.

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And, you know,

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and the reason this is important

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not just to recognize

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that there are people that, you know,

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that don't fail to acknowledge

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their past mistakes

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or continue to do that,

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but it's where we are now, right?

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Because now we're in this position

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where some of those same people

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are very hypercritical of Trump.

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And, you know, maybe genuinely, maybe not,

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but the point is to recognize

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where we are now

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as this drifts into another war.

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All the problems with our MAHA

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or MAGA are being challenged.

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And this is important to see

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because I believe

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all of this is coming together

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for a very clear purpose.

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But on that general idea,

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where do you feel like

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a lot of this is going?

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Is this just another administration profiteering?

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Or do you feel there's a larger agenda

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in kind of what's happening right now?

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You mean where the Trump administration

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is taking us?

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Well, I think the best summary of it

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is to look at

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the big tech Silicon Valley oligarchs

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that installed themselves

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in very insidious ways

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in the levers of power

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via this administration.

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And probably the best thing

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you can do to learn about them

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is to buy Ian Davis's new book,

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The Technocratic Dark State,

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or borrow a copy

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from someone else who bought it.

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It is the best, most forensic breakdown

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of those people

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and what their interests are

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and what they are doing.

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And you can read

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some of Ian Davis's articles

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about aspects of that.

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For example, he did

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an amazing investigation

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into the city states,

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sort of this idea

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of the network state

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and all of that

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and how it's just as bad

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as the globalist global governance

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that a lot of people

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in right-leaning

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conspiracy, quote-unquote,

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conspiracy world

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are worried about, you know,

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it's that on steroids

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and is being marketed

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to those people as the solution.

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And a lot of these people

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are overt transhumanists.

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I mean, they call themselves

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techno-optimists.

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Again, sort of a play

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on that same thing

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we were just talking about

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in the Trump era

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where like we're the optimist

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and avoid the negative Nazis

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feel good with us.

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They'll just make you feel bad.

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And it's all about feeling,

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not about facts.

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Yeah, so, I mean,

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there's obviously a lot

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of other agendas at play too,

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but I think obviously

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it's pretty clear

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that in the Trump administration

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there's going to be

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some type of big switcheroo

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economically.

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And we will see the rise of,

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you know, stablecoins,

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the Bitcoin dollar system

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as laid out by Mark Goodwin

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back in 2021.

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But I mean, that has definitely

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played out.

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And so I think, you know,

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a lot of that stuff

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with digital currency

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is going to advance

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and then we're going to be

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herded further

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into sort of this techno feudal reality.

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And then at the same time

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you have, you know,

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these other aspects

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of the Trump administration

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at work that have, you know,

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this very deep set, you know,

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feeling about eschatology.

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Like, you know,

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there's an overlap actually

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if you look at people

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like Peter Thiel,

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who's, you know,

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the person who basically

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created JD Vance in a lab.

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And his obsession

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with the Antichrist

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and all of this stuff,

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a lot of these people

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are obsessed with

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in times things.

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There's been plenty

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of people pointing out recently

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how this has influenced

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likely the current war

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with Iran.

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So, you know,

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there's obviously

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a lot of different angles

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to talk about.

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But basically, you know,

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this is not fighting

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against global governance

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and global tyranny.

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This is going to be

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a furtherance of the same thing

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that every administration,

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whether Democratic

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or Republican,

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has advanced since 9-11.

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And obviously before that too,

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but it's, they sped it up.

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You know, the type of

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gradualism that they practice

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increased significantly

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after that point.

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And the goal was to create,

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you know, an AI-powered

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surveillance state

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that is authoritarian

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in nature and neofedal

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economically.

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And the vast majority of us

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are meant to be serfs.

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Or rather, if you want to

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easily, you all know

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a Harari phrasing,

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we will become the exploited

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because it's better

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than being expendable.

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So, you know,

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Trump works for bankers,

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big surprise.

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They all work for bankers

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and these banker,

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you know, cronies,

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what they do is

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they steal your money

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and they use your tax dollars

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to build your prison.

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So, I mean, that's,

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I don't really anticipate

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seeing anything beyond that

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at this point.

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And so people that have been

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going back, looking either

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at my work on Epstein

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or work on other stuff

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and being like,

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wow, she was so early.

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Like, okay, if you thought,

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if I have this track record now,

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of like working for 10 years

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and I've been early

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on multiple big stories,

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maybe you should look

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at what I'm talking about now.

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And like, not just me,

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obviously, but what a lot

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of people are talking

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about now that we're right

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on a lot of those things, too.

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Yeah.

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Well, on that point,

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and you know, this is

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something that I see

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connected to a lot of this.

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As you mentioned,

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the network state agenda

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and you know,

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the Pernumals Capital

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Funding Mechanism,

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do you see what you just

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described as the great reset

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or maybe just a new...

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There's a lot of different ways

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to phrase it.

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So, you know,

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there's been catchphrases

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that have been used

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to sum this up.

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The great reset,

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build back better,

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and I don't know,

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there's been several phrases

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that were cooked up in PR labs

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that have been thrown around

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and have become infamous

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at their times

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and then forgotten about

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later.

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But basically, I mean...

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Same agenda?

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Yeah, I would argue that

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because I mean,

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what was the great reset

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nominally about

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per the World Economic Forum?

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It was about leading the world

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into the fourth industrial revolution,

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which is overtly transhumanist.

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It's overtly powered by AI

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and it's overtly surveillance

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state centric

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to keep us safe.

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I just think that's really important

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for the average,

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like partisan,

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you know,

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in the partisan conversation,

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there's a lot of people

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that I think, in my opinion,

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are starting to see

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some of these bigger questions

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that are making them question

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this system.

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But there's still

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to identify as sort of

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a partisan perspective.

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And I think that's important

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to understand

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is that it's not one side

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of the other,

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but the entirety of our government,

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if not way beyond that,

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that's actually trying to

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initiate this through

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the partisan angle.

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And as always,

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they use the other side

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to convince you

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that this is somehow

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the answer to the other.

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So, you know,

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I see the same way.

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Oh, yeah.

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They always do that.

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I mean,

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please figure out

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that ping pong is happening

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and that we need

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to get out of the,

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you know,

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the pinball machine

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or whatever

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and stop being flung around.

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I mean, it's ridiculous.

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We have to do something different

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at some point

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or this will just keep happening

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and then things will just

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get progressively worse.

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And we'll be arguing

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about, you know,

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whether Brett Weinstein

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was right in 2028 or not

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or something.

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Well, you know,

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the problem,

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the obvious point

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and like Catherine

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control great discussion

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same as yourself is that

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this this becomes

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the point to

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make that never

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possible again.

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You know,

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a new, you know,

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reimagining our society.

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So we're in a place

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where that's like

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functionally not even possible

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anymore with the way that's

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designed.

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And not a new opinion,

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but it's important to think

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about where that's going

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because I believe it's a

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reaction to people

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waking up to a lot of the stuff

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in ways that I've

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never at least levels

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to which I've never

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seen before in my opinion.

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You know,

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and I think that's a lot

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because of Epstein

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and the,

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and the awareness around that.

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So let's,

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let's touch on that

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and include that with your

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recent part three of a good

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series.

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This article,

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first friends how Andrew

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Barkas and

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Emirati Sultan

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helped Epstein

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build a smugglers

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paradise.

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And so this

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for just any

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general points on that

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connection between like

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work,

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but let's get into this

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and tell people why this

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is a connection to the

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larger point about Epstein

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and your doctor.

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Sorry,

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you wanted me to

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make a point about

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something aside from the

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article.

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If you wanted to

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make a comment about

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something outside that

23:40.930 --> 23:41.970
article in relation to

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what we were just

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saying, go ahead.

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Otherwise,

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let's, let's get into.

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yeah.

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So just like there's

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there was this effort in

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2024 to like build trust

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and then misdirect.

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I mean,

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people need to be

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very aware that

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that can easily happen

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again,

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especially with all of the

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eyeballs

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on,

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you know,

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the Epstein case.

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Once again,

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there have obviously

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been people as there's

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been this new wave

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of interest in the

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case.

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There have been

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experts that have

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popped up

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that, you know,

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have now built

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followings around

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Epstein material,

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even though previously

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not covering the

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case.

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And that's not to say

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that new people can't

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crop up and do a good

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job.

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My point is pay

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attention to those

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people and where they

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try and leave you

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into what solutions

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they try and

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leave you and

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think critically

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because that

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is always in short

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supply in the

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world today.

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And we should

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all practice

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more of it.

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Well,

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quick question

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before we get to

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the article then

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just on the general

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flow, I mean,

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how do you

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do you feel like this

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was a net positive

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with what's happened?

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I mean,

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I think it's clear that

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they're obviously dragging

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their feet and hiding

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things.

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That's my opinion,

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but do you think it

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was a net positive

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what they've done so far

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through Trump administration?

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Even how the

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Trump administration has

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handled the releases.

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I mean,

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just say clearly

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the information,

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whether they wanted it

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to or not,

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that has come out.

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Well,

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they were legally

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required to release

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some of it.

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So yeah,

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they released some.

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It's based largely

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around a single

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email address,

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JEE vacation

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at gmail.com.

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And I believe

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drop site news,

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which is mostly

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former intercept

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writers,

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as I understand it,

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received Epstein

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emails from a

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separate address that

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they reported on

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at the end of last

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year.

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So as far as the

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US government

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is concerned,

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it's been one

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email address.

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Obviously Epstein

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had several.

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And I think

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because I mean,

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JEE vacation,

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it's pretty clear that

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most of these emails,

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he,

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he used that email

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address mainly when

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he was present in the

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US VI

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in the US

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Virgin Islands,

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which was his primary

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base after 2009.

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But obviously

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before then it was

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not.

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So

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it probably won't have

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the full extent

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of communications

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from that

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previous point

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in time.

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And so obviously

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in that case the focus

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is mostly going to be

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on emails from 2009

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up until

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2019.

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So a 10 year

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window

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into Epstein's

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activities.

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Obviously not

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all of them

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because there's been

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lots of redactions

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and even

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mainstream outlets

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like Britain's

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Channel 4,

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they're like,

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this is 2%

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of what the

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US government has

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on Epstein.

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So if British

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media is,

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I mean,

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it's just like

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they're obviously

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not going to release

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all of the files.

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I mean, you remember

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that ridiculous op

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they did

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with the people

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coming out with the binders

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and being like,

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we have the documents.

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And it's

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literally stuff that

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they had like already

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released years prior.

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You know,

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they didn't,

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they didn't want to release

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all of it,

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but they released some of it

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and it's very clear

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from the redactions

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they were trying to cover

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up for powerful people.

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So one of those

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powerful people

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who was redacted

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was sort of

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found out

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because it was

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this,

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this person who

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Epstein emailed

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and he was like,

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where are you?

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Are you okay?

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I loved the torture

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video.

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And then

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people were like,

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why is the person

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who sent the torture

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video to Epstein's

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name redacted?

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And then

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Thomas Massey goes

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and finds out

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that it's a sultan.

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Right.

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And then so

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then it was,

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you know,

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Todd Blanche,

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his deputy attorney general

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had to basically say,

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oh, it was this guy

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who's sultan

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Ben Suleim.

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He's the,

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he was the long time

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head of

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Dubai ports world,

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which later became

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Dubai world.

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But before that

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he was managing

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all of the

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special economic zones

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in the UAE

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and their port system

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which in the 1980s

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in particular

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when he was

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coinciding with

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when he became

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chair of their

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biggest SEZ port

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in free trade zone

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became a hotbed

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for illegal smuggling

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including

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of weapons and

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diamonds

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and all sorts of things.

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And so

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if you're familiar

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with my work on Epstein

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and I've read

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my books

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he was

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Epstein was

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you know,

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started off his

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his entrance

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into this

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you know,

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sort of murky world

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that he is now

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notorious for inhabiting

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began after

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he left Bear Stearns

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in 1981 or so

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and

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he basically

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became a smuggler

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not just

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or a trafficker

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you could say

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but it wasn't

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you know,

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minors

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or in women

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at that point

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it was

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it was weapons

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mainly

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but you know

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there's this new

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new documents

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have come out

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that have shown

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that he was investigated

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by the drug

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enforcement agency

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for

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allegedly trafficking

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or being involved

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in trafficking networks

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that were moving

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ecstasy

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and club drugs

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around the

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United States

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which is really interesting

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because I remember

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a media roots radio episode

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years ago

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about

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Mossad

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trafficking ecstasy

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all through the US

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in that period of time

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that Robbie Martin did

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so

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might have to go back

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and revisit that now

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but interesting

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the overlap

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so he

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you know,

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but anyway

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in the 1980s

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he was mainly

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trafficking weapons

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and he was also

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doing a lot of

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shady financial shit

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which had gotten him

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in trouble

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at Bear Stearns anyway

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and why they had to let him

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go

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at least the most likely

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explanation

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if you look into it

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there's like

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six different explanations

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from different people

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but the most believable one

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is that

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and so

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later

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Robert Maxwell dies

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and he teams up

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with Ghislaine Maxwell

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and takes over

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part

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of the

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Robert Maxwell

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portfolio

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quite obviously

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and so

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he's not

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he's also involved

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I have argued

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with

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the smuggling

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and trafficking

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of weapons

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through the 1990s

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but he was also

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getting involved

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through his connection

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to Leslie Wexner

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by using modeling

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as a lure

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to traffic women

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mainly from Eastern Europe

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and also Brazil

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you know

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to high-end clientele

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and as I know

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in this first friend series

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in the previous

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two installments

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to this one

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Epstein was clearly

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doing this

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as part of a broader network

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that didn't just

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involve him

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and Jean-Luc Brinnell

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of MC2

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one of the people

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involved with MC2

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was a top

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the head of elite models

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in Europe

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named Gerard Marie

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who's been accused

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of

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terrible crimes

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by a litany

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of former models

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that worked for him

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his former wife

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believes them

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he's

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she's like

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yeah that sounds about right

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he was never prosecuted

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he's French

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if you couldn't tell

30:34.450 --> 30:35.030
by the name

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and so there's a big

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unexplored

30:36.590 --> 30:38.010
angle of Epstein's

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network in France

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the investigation there

30:41.330 --> 30:42.130
pretty much died

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with Jean-Luc Brinnell

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died in a French prison

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and it hasn't been explored

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and

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you know there's also

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a whole Italian angle

30:50.450 --> 30:51.130
to this

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that I talk about

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in my first piece

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and also my second piece

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they're both about

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Italians

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and Italian-Americans

30:57.550 --> 30:58.610
but brought more

30:58.610 --> 30:58.890
brought

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but they're also involved

30:59.790 --> 31:00.650
with elite models

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and more broadly speaking

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you know

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what was going on

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with elite models

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also ties

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a decent bit

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into Trump as well

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who used to hold

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elite model

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look of the year contest

31:11.030 --> 31:12.230
at the Plaza Hotel

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when he owned it

31:13.230 --> 31:15.330
and you know

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there's a lot of

31:16.890 --> 31:17.850
there's a lot more detail

31:17.850 --> 31:18.330
I get into

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but I don't want to get lost

31:19.190 --> 31:19.650
in the weeds

31:19.650 --> 31:20.850
but if you read those articles

31:20.850 --> 31:22.030
it becomes pretty clear

31:22.030 --> 31:23.330
that this is

31:23.330 --> 31:24.330
at least the

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the model

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you know

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model as a lure

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trafficking pipeline

31:28.830 --> 31:29.890
was much bigger

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than just Epstein

31:30.630 --> 31:31.470
and Jean-Luc Brinnell

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it involved these people

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as well

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and there's been also

31:34.270 --> 31:35.470
hardly any scrutiny

31:35.470 --> 31:36.790
of what they were doing

31:36.790 --> 31:37.270
in Brazil

31:38.270 --> 31:39.210
a lot of women

31:39.210 --> 31:40.070
were coming from there

31:40.070 --> 31:41.410
how many Epstein victims

31:41.410 --> 31:42.030
do you know

31:42.030 --> 31:42.550
that are from

31:42.550 --> 31:43.590
that are named

31:43.590 --> 31:44.530
that are like you know

31:44.530 --> 31:45.690
that come out and talk about

31:45.690 --> 31:47.750
having been trafficked by Epstein

31:48.230 --> 31:49.450
where the Brazilians

31:49.450 --> 31:51.090
where the Eastern Europeans

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the vast majority of the women

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that were trafficked by him

31:54.810 --> 31:56.430
were of those nationalities

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most of the ones we know are

31:57.630 --> 31:58.870
not all obviously

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but most of the ones we know

31:59.890 --> 32:00.970
are Americans

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that got wrapped up in it

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but it was much larger

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it was large in size

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and it's a much

32:07.410 --> 32:08.970
obviously a much larger network

32:08.970 --> 32:10.730
than beyond just Epstein

32:10.730 --> 32:11.810
and Epstein as I said

32:11.810 --> 32:12.930
continued his you know

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these smuggling activities

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in the 90s

32:15.950 --> 32:18.210
probably into the early 2000s

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and he was also

32:19.110 --> 32:20.530
you know a master

32:20.530 --> 32:22.190
at moving around money

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so you don't call it

32:23.270 --> 32:23.900
money trafficking

32:24.250 --> 32:25.450
when you're moving money

32:25.450 --> 32:26.630
between illegal

32:26.630 --> 32:29.070
and illegal institutions

32:29.070 --> 32:30.550
but I mean that's basically

32:30.550 --> 32:31.790
what he was doing too

32:31.790 --> 32:33.770
as a way to create

32:33.770 --> 32:36.630
tax havens for powerful people

32:36.630 --> 32:37.670
and prevent them from

32:37.670 --> 32:38.550
paying taxes

32:38.550 --> 32:40.250
so obviously

32:40.990 --> 32:42.950
I think an important piece

32:42.950 --> 32:43.630
of legislation

32:43.630 --> 32:45.050
I would like to see passed

32:45.050 --> 32:46.510
is Ron Wyden's act

32:46.510 --> 32:47.610
that's about releasing

32:47.610 --> 32:49.030
all of the treasury records

32:49.030 --> 32:50.050
about Epstein

32:50.050 --> 32:52.010
that would show

32:52.010 --> 32:54.630
a lot of the money flows

32:54.630 --> 32:55.750
involved there

32:55.750 --> 32:58.070
but I do not see that passing

32:58.070 --> 32:59.690
I would love for it to pass though

32:59.690 --> 33:00.970
I would love those records

33:00.970 --> 33:02.450
because also we know now

33:02.450 --> 33:03.570
that Epstein was advising

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the treasury

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I mean it was actually reported

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in 2019

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and so Mark Goodwin's

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in my series about

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a lot of the Epstein network connections

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to the crypto industry

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the chain

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touch on that

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but you know

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in the recent documents

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there's like pictures of

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Epstein's US treasury badge

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I mean he was involved

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he was very involved

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and it's important to point out

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because he was very involved

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with the debt crisis in 2008

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debt is routinely used

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as a financial weapon

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against other countries

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he was a big foreign currency trader

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foreign currency traders

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have destroyed entire economies

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and wrecked them

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for the benefit of

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the powers that be

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so Epstein was clearly

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he had

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he wore many hats

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but he was also doing this

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kind of financial hitman

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activity as well

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and he's not alone in that either

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so you know as a good example

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he was close

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one of the first people

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that brought him

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into sort of these elite circles

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was Jimmy Goldsmith

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who was called by the New York Times

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part of this cabal of currency traders

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that were basically destroying economies

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around the world

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he was hanging out with Goldsmith

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at least as early

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as the early 1970s

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when he was like

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recent college dropout

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that doesn't make a lot of sense does it?

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yeah

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so beyond that

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another person that was named as being part of this cabal

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was Joe Lewis

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who was recently pardoned by Trump

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after admitting to insider trading

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and Jimmy Goldsmith and Lewis

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have ties to

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oh I guess everyone's going to be surprised now

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the Ross Child family

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and the Ross Child Epstein connection

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if you had read my books

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would not be surprising

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they came out in 2022

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I wrote extensively about how the Max

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Robert Maxwell literally came to the U.S.

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on the behalf of Ross Child's banking interests

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to be a corporate raider

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so that Ross Child Inc. on Wall Street

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could build its mergers and acquisitions business

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it's like openly

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they openly talked about it

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and it was Robert Maxwell and Jimmy Goldsmith

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that they picked

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lots of new home shelves today

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that are suddenly

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that were out there in your books

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or otherwise

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it's just funny how that's the new media today

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well it's okay

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I mean I'm glad the information's out there

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but I also don't want it to be misdirected

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or turned into Q-ish

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adjacent stuff

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I mean this is real and verifiable

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and not

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loony-tuned town or whatever

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some people might want to paint it

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I mean it's a very real connection

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and it's very important

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to note that and discuss

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because the big takeaway from this series

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and all of my Epstein work really

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is that Epstein was middle management

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working on behalf of a tight-knit

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network of oligarchs

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and the oligarchs are unaccountable

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nothing's going to happen to Leslie Wexner

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and actually Mark Goodwin and I have an article

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coming up from Unlimited Hangout

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hopefully next week

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that will show you exactly how Leslie

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nothing has happened to Leslie Wexner so extensively

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that his master plan he's been making

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since the 1980s

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it has basically come to fruition

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in the state of Ohio

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it's messed up

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it's very messed up so

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yeah sorry I'll let you

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no no go ahead

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I don't want to keep going

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I just want to

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you know it's important

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I think that this is obvious

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I think to most people

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and that's what I'm curious that

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you know that's why I feel like it's

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even though they tried to not let this

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happen drag their feet

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lied about it

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it is having a positive effect

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that people are seeing it more

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changing opinions

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I think grudgingly for them

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I think that's worth pointing out

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I wanted to ask about the

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previous point you were highlighting there

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so weapons

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and other smuggling sides of this

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so obviously that's the intelligent

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side of that you would argue

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is that connected to the sort of

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regime change element

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and like do you feel that that plays a factor

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in potential we're discussing today

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what do you mean

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well so I don't really know

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if I can say

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if Epstein was necessarily involved

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in any regime changes

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I just need to practice

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the smuggling of weapons for example

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oh sure

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so specifically with Epstein

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a lot of it

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seemed to have been that he was involved

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in moving weapons

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specifically to

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the Afghanistan Mukhaj Dean

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by way of Iraq

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and also apparently I think

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arming Iraq to an extent as well

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this is of course ongoing with the Iran

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and the Iraq war when you had

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US and Israeli intelligence via the

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Iran-Contra operation

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really armed both sides of that

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conflict with the intent of having

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Iran and Iraq weak in each other

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and then a lot of the weapons

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we gave Iraq

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or the US gave Iraq in that era

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were then used as justification years later

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by Bush Jr. W. Bush

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to go in and invade Iraq

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oh the WMD's

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well actually some of those

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WMD's

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that were you know fearmongered about

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like anthrax among them were actually

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given to

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Saddam Hussein in the 1980s

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from the US and it was Donald Rumsfeld

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oddly enough that was the envoy

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you know point man

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for all of that so

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historical patterns matter

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here because these people are not

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very creative and they do a lot of the same

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stuff over history over and

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over again so

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you know maybe the reason some of us are right about

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these stories early is because we like

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notice

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those

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well that's often what I point about even just like

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the week to week stuff that I do on the show

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this is it's evidence

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it's there it's not hard you look at their past actions

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you consider what they typically do

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what they might be do you know what their interests

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are their agenda who profits it's not that

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difficult we're always right but the point

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is that in many cases it's just

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it's anybody who's being honest and sort of

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nonpartisan would be able to see the same

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and I think we saw that a lot with a lot of these

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recent sort of you know whether like

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the ICE discussions for example just things that were

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it's you know you're it's like

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starting the conversation that we're out you know since we're on Mars

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and it's like well hold on that's just

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flatly not true and that kind of ridiculousness

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with people engage with it and it becomes the

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talking point but that's that's kind of yeah

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there's a great example of that recently

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where there were these tweets that got like

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a huge engagement going around claiming that

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Tulsi Gavards going to like hire Julian

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Assange as a national security

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advisor I'm like Trump tried to kill

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Assange

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it's crazy to reach those things that would never

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happen but it gets a huge reach there's no

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sources cited it's just like breaking and it's

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more hopey I'm like oh Trump

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is actually against the deep state so much that he's

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going to hire the

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truth teller guy he tried to have

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murdered by the CIA

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well you know it's just

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sad you know thanks twitter vials

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for the whole screenshot is evidence

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today reality but that's that's obvious

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yeah well there was I mean they hated

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what what he leaks did in 2016 and

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so they made it made sure through

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various I would argue

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successive ops to bastardize

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what

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you know national security leak

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reporting is in the United States

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in the public imagination

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and the twitter files was the

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nail in the coffin for that

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and what do you know you I think it's

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very interesting to look at the trajectory

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of the twitter files journalist since then

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right one of them are

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what a what a ride it's been

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yeah I mean and that's

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it's the same as the

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binder for Epstein most transparent you know

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there's got to be some accountability here

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especially when it's that quick of

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change you know suddenly we're weeks later

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and it's already clear that that wasn't true

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really be called out for these things it's important

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but you know speaking of calling people out

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for things the interesting overlap of Kushner

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and all this which you mentioned in the article we were just highlighting

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and the interesting part

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that just came to play before we touch on some of the

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Iran parts of this where

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and I'm I was always interested to

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hear your thought on how you feel this played out

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with verbio coming out and essentially

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saying Israel was going

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to attack and so we had to sort of

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almost say more recently Caroline

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Levitt was like well Jared Kushner talked to the president

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and that was it exactly right

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that's where I was going with that so it's interesting to see

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how all of a sudden it's become well Israel

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through Kushner sort of pressured

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us or lied to us or made us whatever

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variation of the argument it's like we're all like yes

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exactly that's what we've been

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trying to show everybody you know whether you think Trump

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was manipulated or not which I think he's an active part

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in this it came out that there

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was an influence mechanism through Whitcoff

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and Kushner and you know whether Trump is

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seeing that or not I don't know you know I was curious

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where you think this whole idea

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that Trump is in charge of what

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his administration does I don't agree

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with at all I think

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Trump is the Trump was chosen

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because he was

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a celebrity TV host it's

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really interesting and I really encourage people to

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read this whole series because you'll see

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again these historical patterns

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the model

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for the Trump presidency actually

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happened first in Italy in the 1990s

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it was Silvio Berlusconi

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who framed himself

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as I'm a billionaire outsider

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kind of celebrity now

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guy and I'm

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the billionaire outsider so I'm going to

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come in as this outsider and clean up

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the mess

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and I'm going

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you know and I'm going to run the country like a CEO

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exactly

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and Berlusconi

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wait wait wait Berlusconi before that

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probably tied up with organized crime

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and a member of the P2 Lodge

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and if you don't know about what P2 is

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it was this free Masonic Lodge

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that was found out to be engaged in subversive

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activity involving the CIA

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organized crime in the US

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and Italy which in my

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books I argue the organized crime syndicate

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we're talking about in all these cases is the Jewish mob

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and Italian mafia that teamed up in New York

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and the head of the Italian mafia got deported

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to Italy and so that's how it becomes

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the Italian mafia again

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and then the Vatican

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right and so

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you know

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Berlusconi came out of that nexus

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and his financial six of the reason he was

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a billionaire was because of that network

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they gave him the seed

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money for his companies he built himself up

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that way this is a made mob

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made man

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involving you know

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intelligence and organized crime which have fused

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a thesis of my

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book again so

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Berlusconi was the model

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for that and then Berlusconi

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why he was prime minister

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had to leave because he got

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charged with having sex

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with minors and his wife left him

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because he was surrounding himself with minors

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bunga bunga parties

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they were called

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so I don't know

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Trump is also a man

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that before being a politician had

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you know organized crime

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ties specifically to the

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Simeon Mogilevich group

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which the US

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mainstream media framed as you know a basis

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for Russia gate reporting for a long time

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because he's well he's not really Ukrainian

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but he's a big guy in the Russian

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mob but Simeon Mogilevich

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was a key business partner of Robert

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Maxwell at the time that

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Donald Trump was partying on Robert

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Maxwell's yacht the lady Galane

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and Simeon Mogilevich

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got was able to penetrate

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the US financial system because Robert

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Maxwell got him an Israeli passport

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so that whole organized crime syndicate

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Ala Mogilevich

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is a transnational one that spans

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Russia, Israel and the United States

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and that's why the Russia gate reporting never really

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had anything meaty to grab on because they

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left out the Israel part

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exactly the whole part

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and so it's really

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but it's you know as I note

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in the series

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how it ties into Berlusconi

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it's the same crowd

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in Europe they did Operation Gladio

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that Nexus P2

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but they

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which was regime change ops

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and wholesale slaughter of European

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civilians

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to prevent certain people from getting elected

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supposedly to fight the communists

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and all of this stuff

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but you know I mean these are

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intelligence ops involving the mob

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that go back a long time and so the Trump

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model is really not that different

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than the Silvio Berlusconi model

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and the first two people that I

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wrote about in the series are close friends of

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Trump that are also very

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close to Silvio Berlusconi

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and also have important roles in

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the Epstein network in terms of trafficking

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the first one being Flavio Breatori

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who was accused

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by Epstein's former butler of sex

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trafficking along with John Luc Brinnell

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Glaine Maxwell, Leslie

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Wexner, Eva and Glenn

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Dubin, he has

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a pretty good track record honestly

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I mean he has been dead

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well before Epstein was arrested in 2019

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so no one has been able to ask him

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how he knew

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he also said Trump was

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he also flagged Trump

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in that

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so

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important to keep all of that in mind

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and the other person is Paolo Zampoli

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who is the person that introduced Trump in Melania

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and was a modeling agent again

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a protege of John Casablanca's elite models

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and had a lot of overlap

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with Epstein in the

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modeling world and then went on to work

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for Trump and then a bunch

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of shady United Nations

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buying citizenship

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stuff and then Glenn Maxwell's Teramar

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so this is a transnational network

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end of story

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and

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you know obviously

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it involves Israel to a significant

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degree but again it's transnational

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so the power structure is above

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the nation state

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so it doesn't begin and end with Israel

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but Israel is a key part

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of it because Israel

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you know has

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such a huge lobbying presence

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in the post World War II

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era that it's very difficult

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to criticize them or boycott them

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you know they've made it

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very difficult

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to single them out even when they do terrible

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things

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and I think the transnational

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mob

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or whatever you want to call them

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utilizes that to their advantage all the time

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because the stuff that's too

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touchy for them to do in the

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US or Europe or elsewhere

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they'll just have them do it

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exactly well so how do you see all this

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tying to the current direction

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ask this first is the current

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US government rather just the Trump administration

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but it's the same things from before

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current direction do you see that as a

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globalist direction with his

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board of peace with the new WHO proposal

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and then how do you see this connecting

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with because you mentioned the whole CEO run

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country point all the way back then

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you know how do you yeah that's the technocratic

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model yeah how do you see

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the techno king idea

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yeah go ahead go ahead yeah well

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the running the country as a CEO is

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is pretty close to the technocracy

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model and the running the country as a CEO

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idea

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as a private executive

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well I mean you know what a lot of these

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people in the Curtis Jarvin

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sphere want is a CEO

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dictator I think Curtis Jarvin is pretty

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open about that he's hugely influential

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with J.D. Vance and Peter Thiel and

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all of those guys

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state agenda that's the

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that's the point yeah I mean they they don't

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I don't think they self-describe it as

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technocracy

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yeah

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right in the

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book that

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from former CTO

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from

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Coinbase that he describes it verbatim

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as tech Zionism that just that's terrifying

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to me with what we see in the world today you know

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that's a new term and I don't like it

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at all

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by others in the conversation you know

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but you know that it's why that's so important

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to me obviously because I've been talking about it and I'm worried about

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where that goes but you know I

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curious from the internal

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like it seems like there's a lot

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of the religious Zionism

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draw or rather influence on

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Trump's inner

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administration

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but is that the same do you think as the larger sort

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of Peter Thiel direction

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because I think about that because I think Israel has its own

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direction in all this and I think they may

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at some point sort of butt heads

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I was curious if you had any thoughts on that

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so

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Ali Drive

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so to be honest you know I think like Peter Thiel's

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anti-Christ stuff it there's

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an attempt there

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to rebrand Christianity

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in ways that are more

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compatible

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with Silicon Valley's deep involvement

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in the US military

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which slaughter civilians

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and also the Israeli military

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which slaughter civilians

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and

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there's sort of a way an attempt there

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to develop a new form

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of a more

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violent Christianity

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which you know

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most Christians

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I would think would be against

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but it's

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they're particularly marketing this not necessarily

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to the general American public

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but a select number of people in Silicon

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Valley are up and coming

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people in the tech technology

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scene that identify

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as Christians

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so you know Peter Thiel's anti-Christ series

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only certain people were invited to

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that it was not a publicly broadcasting

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they're not trying to sway the public

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with that that's kind of

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they're going after a niche group

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there

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and then you have Trey Stevens

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who's a long, well he's

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an obvious spook

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but he's a Thiel, very Thiel linked one

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a

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big Palantir guy before that was

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involved in US intelligence stuff

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in Afghanistan but he co-founded

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Andaril with

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Palmer Lucky

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which is doing a lot of this autonomous warfare

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stuff but beyond that

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he also created, well his wife

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normally created but he clearly runs

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it with his wife called Act 17

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that's kind of this collective in Silicon Valley

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about trying to

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bring Christianity back to

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Silicon Valley and it's this particular

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brand of it

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Interesting, yeah

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so the religious Zionism thing

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I think is a little different

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if you're talking about what we're once

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an extremist group in Judaism

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but you know obviously

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it's expanded

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since then but I definitely

51:19.010 --> 51:21.010
want to make it very clear that I don't think all Jews

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follow in this category even remotely

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but there is

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this particular faction that's

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very obsessed with hastening

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the end times

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but there's also a group of Christians

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that's very obsessed with that and you know

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I wrote about this back for Mintpress

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I think in 2019

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it's just sort of the history of how that developed

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on both sides and the idea

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that these groups have

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opportunistically used each other

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and they don't necessarily

51:49.450 --> 51:50.490
like each other

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but they opportunistically use each other

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to try and hasten

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the same end times but they think the end times

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will have different outcomes obviously

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and actually the Christian

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version of that

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the Christian Zionist

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believed outcome of the end times

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has been criticized as being deeply

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anti-Semitic ironically enough

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but it's basically

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for both ends it's born out of this

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idea that God

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isn't acting quickly enough

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and so we must

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do things

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to hasten the end times

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because

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we don't want to wait to paraphrase

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the

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you know the Schneersen song

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I mean it's

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blasphemous from any perspective

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any religion you know what you're doing

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so this is

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well it just assumes that you know better than God does

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right

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like that's gone well historically

52:46.230 --> 52:48.030
but these are also the same people

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that want to like edit the human genome

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and like put pig organs into people

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and are doing all of this crazy stuff in medicine

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and transhumanism so I mean they're like

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you know

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an example of a genetic manipulation

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stuff they're doing in Prospera

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for example with no oversight and regulation

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longevity stuff

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RFK's administration you know you can see a lot of this stuff

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really permeating

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into this administration which is one of the reasons

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why it's so

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concerning for me how it all ties together

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with the foreign policy part of this

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and so let's touch on that to end

53:19.650 --> 53:21.490
today where much time we have left about

53:21.490 --> 53:23.470
what's going on with Iran just from you know

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surface level opinions and

53:25.370 --> 53:27.510
you know about how it ties in with this

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or not at all right what are your thoughts on

53:29.530 --> 53:31.690
whether this is sort of like we said

53:31.690 --> 53:33.750
earlier is that you know Trump being pulled into this

53:33.750 --> 53:35.610
because of Greater Israel that has maybe nothing

53:35.610 --> 53:37.550
to do with the larger conversation or do you see

53:37.550 --> 53:39.370
as Catherine discussed last night

53:39.370 --> 53:41.750
this being just like

53:41.750 --> 53:43.990
explicitly part of the engineering

53:43.990 --> 53:45.590
of the larger control

53:45.590 --> 53:46.970
grid for a global sense

53:46.970 --> 53:49.050
you're talking about the war in Iran

53:49.500 --> 53:50.530
where does that fit in

53:52.550 --> 53:53.090
sorry

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no it's okay that's probably my fault

53:55.270 --> 53:57.070
first interview in a while might be a little

53:57.070 --> 53:59.450
gonna get things moving again I don't know

53:59.450 --> 53:59.790
sorry

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yeah basically

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I mean just look at like Gaza's the

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template so just look at what they did to

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Gaza they moonscaped it

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they committed egregious

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terrible war crimes

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and the plan

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well let Jared Kushner tell

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you know oddly enough the person I

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brought up a minute ago Paolo Zampoli

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who was part two of

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my first friend series actually was the

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original person to come up with the whole

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Gaza Riviera Mara

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and Gaza idea

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years ago pitched it

54:31.690 --> 54:33.670
to Trump but yeah it's basically they

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openly say it's to turn Gaza

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into well yeah not just digital ID

54:37.650 --> 54:39.750
but they openly say to have it ruled by

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a technocratic council

54:41.550 --> 54:43.450
exactly digital money the whole thing

54:43.450 --> 54:44.290
it is literally

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it's the ultimate build back better and

54:47.490 --> 54:49.490
Trump is doing it for all you people in the

54:49.490 --> 54:51.450
COVID area that thought Trump wouldn't

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be in on this

54:52.610 --> 54:55.370
he's using the full power of the US

54:55.370 --> 54:56.050
military

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to murder people

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so that this can happen

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and steal their land

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so that I mean that's probably

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the goal in Iran and to

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another extent too the US also engineered

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this in Ukraine

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and don't act like Trump was it complicit in it

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because basically in order

55:15.010 --> 55:17.270
in exchange for US military and European

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military support

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Ukrainian state assets were sold

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off to Blackrock and JP Morgan

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right

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and Trump is like that's great

55:27.270 --> 55:28.630
let's do

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let's do more of that so this has been

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happening in the last several conflicts

55:33.570 --> 55:35.070
it's about going into these

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specific areas

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blowing everything up

55:38.930 --> 55:40.990
destroying everything destroying

55:40.990 --> 55:42.110
people's lives

55:42.990 --> 55:45.090
and then coming back into quote-unquote

55:45.090 --> 55:46.810
build back better and

55:46.810 --> 55:47.810
install these

55:47.810 --> 55:50.230
four IR cities

55:50.230 --> 55:51.770
on the ruins

55:52.530 --> 55:54.270
and to think that that couldn't

55:54.270 --> 55:55.850
happen elsewhere

55:55.850 --> 55:57.690
I mean it's just

55:57.690 --> 55:59.830
it's disturbing I mean it's basically the

55:59.830 --> 56:01.350
message that's being sent is

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implement these systems voluntarily

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or we will

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bomb you until you build back

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back better it's the four B's

56:10.330 --> 56:12.430
now bombs build back better

56:12.430 --> 56:13.830
or any very

56:13.830 --> 56:14.630
you know

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big beautiful bill came out as well

56:18.250 --> 56:19.850
like really just shoving it in your face

56:19.850 --> 56:21.310
making the overlap

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but you know I think what's clear is

56:23.990 --> 56:26.070
as you pointed out the coercion part of this

56:26.070 --> 56:27.550
but it's not even just the bombs it's

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as we see with some of the more amenable

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countries that maybe don't want to go directly

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in that direction it becomes sort of do this

56:33.690 --> 56:35.790
or we're going to find an investigation

56:35.790 --> 56:37.730
somehow of your government or suddenly

56:37.730 --> 56:39.310
we're going to remove what you need

56:39.310 --> 56:40.070
or you know just

56:42.070 --> 56:43.830
dishonest tactics across the world today

56:43.830 --> 56:45.730
just coercing people into this direction

56:45.730 --> 56:47.790
you know and some interesting that I'm glad

56:47.790 --> 56:49.530
you I'm glad I'm glad this is becoming

56:49.530 --> 56:51.790
something that's getting more discussion because I think it's very

56:51.790 --> 56:53.830
clear that this is what we've all

56:53.830 --> 56:55.730
worried about you know whether I mean

56:55.730 --> 56:57.930
they ask you this then too do you think Trump is aware

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of that you think he's consciously aware

56:59.690 --> 57:01.830
of this agenda or is he being used and I don't think

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it matters he's the apprentice host of

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this dystopian

57:05.610 --> 57:07.770
reality we're living I agree with

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that he's there to make be the public

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face the reality TV

57:11.730 --> 57:13.530
face of all of this

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I don't think he's making the decisions

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I don't either but the reason

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that's important I think is because

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I wonder if that with what we know

57:21.490 --> 57:23.450
about him I mean you could read his books you can understand

57:23.450 --> 57:25.490
he is clearly the same person he's always

57:25.490 --> 57:26.490
been he's very narcissistic

57:26.490 --> 57:29.530
in the art of the deal that whole idea

57:29.530 --> 57:31.450
comes from Roy Cohn his mentor

57:31.450 --> 57:33.430
again go back to my books out

57:33.430 --> 57:34.910
almost four years ago

57:35.870 --> 57:37.110
which was all about

57:37.110 --> 57:39.590
the whole idea of art of the deal

57:39.590 --> 57:40.730
is backdoor deals

57:41.490 --> 57:43.790
with shady organized crime figures

57:43.790 --> 57:45.090
about how to make more money

57:45.090 --> 57:46.710
for the billionaires right

57:46.710 --> 57:48.830
right what do you think

57:48.830 --> 57:50.510
Trump's deals are about

57:50.510 --> 57:52.810
yeah well I mean so if you have

57:52.810 --> 57:55.170
a person like that who is being manipulated

57:55.170 --> 57:56.990
and is allowed to think he's in control

57:56.990 --> 57:58.550
right that's what I that's how I would

57:58.550 --> 58:00.610
Jared Kushner comes and it's like

58:00.610 --> 58:02.310
tank your whole base

58:02.990 --> 58:05.310
and make voters hate you

58:05.310 --> 58:07.170
in the middle of a major

58:07.170 --> 58:09.370
affordability crisis and invade

58:09.370 --> 58:11.750
Iran please and Trump is like

58:11.750 --> 58:13.750
oh you say clap I will clap like a seal

58:13.750 --> 58:15.390
okay but Jared Kushner

58:15.390 --> 58:17.390
do you think this is the guy

58:17.390 --> 58:18.250
that's really running

58:18.750 --> 58:21.370
shit and he's like in charge of what's

58:21.370 --> 58:22.370
happening in his government

58:22.370 --> 58:24.250
he works

58:25.050 --> 58:26.910
for the transnational

58:26.910 --> 58:29.590
let's call it a corporation that's really what it is

58:29.590 --> 58:31.230
right and

58:31.230 --> 58:32.350
what's telling I mean

58:32.350 --> 58:34.890
I really like to point out this quote to people

58:34.890 --> 58:36.410
because I think it's very revealing

58:36.410 --> 58:38.770
and how long this has been going on

58:38.770 --> 58:40.850
in the early 1970s

58:40.850 --> 58:42.350
Samuel Peace are who's Anthony

58:42.350 --> 58:43.850
Blinken's stepfather

58:44.410 --> 58:46.410
but also was Robert Maxwell's

58:46.410 --> 58:47.870
super best bud and lawyer

58:48.410 --> 58:50.410
and close friend and part of

58:50.410 --> 58:52.290
that whole mob nexus

58:52.290 --> 58:54.150
of which Maxwell was

58:54.150 --> 58:56.150
you know part and helped build

58:56.150 --> 58:58.290
so the same Epstein network we're talking

58:58.290 --> 59:00.550
about but well before Epstein obviously

59:00.550 --> 59:02.210
because this is the 70s Samuel

59:02.210 --> 59:04.490
Peace are testified before Congress

59:04.490 --> 59:06.490
about the rise of what he called the trans

59:06.490 --> 59:07.790
ideological corporation

59:09.150 --> 59:10.490
and what he described

59:10.490 --> 59:12.510
that as is the multinational

59:12.510 --> 59:14.330
western corporation is going

59:14.330 --> 59:16.490
to joint ventures with all of

59:16.490 --> 59:17.710
the state owned companies

59:17.710 --> 59:20.210
not all of but a lot of the state owned companies

59:20.210 --> 59:22.430
and communist countries and what

59:22.430 --> 59:23.670
they're doing is creating

59:24.250 --> 59:26.470
an economic structure that is making

59:26.470 --> 59:27.830
the nation state irrelevant

59:28.490 --> 59:29.910
right and that this is

59:30.490 --> 59:32.630
this is what is running the world

59:32.630 --> 59:34.750
and you were saying this is back in the 70s

59:34.750 --> 59:36.510
in the early 70s and he told this

59:36.510 --> 59:37.970
in front of the US Congress

59:38.810 --> 59:40.550
and someone was like so do you think

59:40.550 --> 59:42.410
this is bad he was like not necessarily

59:43.210 --> 59:43.890
you know

59:44.450 --> 59:46.310
I mean it's the most in your face thing

59:46.310 --> 59:47.950
ever this is the Nixon era

59:48.730 --> 59:50.750
right that long a plan it seems

59:50.750 --> 59:52.690
at least the transition away from something

59:52.690 --> 59:53.390
that they realized

59:54.930 --> 59:56.690
after Nixon who came in it was

59:56.690 --> 59:57.830
Jimmy Carter right

59:57.830 --> 59:59.870
or no there was Gerald Ford in there

59:59.870 --> 01:00:01.830
but he wasn't elected and I think

01:00:01.830 --> 01:00:03.930
Romsfeld served in his government the first

01:00:03.930 --> 01:00:05.910
time right so he was it's obvious

01:00:05.910 --> 01:00:07.630
who he was but then you have Carter who's

01:00:07.630 --> 01:00:09.550
full of trilateral commission people

01:00:09.550 --> 01:00:11.630
basically his whole administration

01:00:11.630 --> 01:00:13.030
run by that you have Reagan

01:00:13.650 --> 01:00:15.530
which is really Papa Bush

01:00:15.530 --> 01:00:17.670
that does Iran Contra

01:00:17.670 --> 01:00:19.850
in the Franklin scandal and like all of

01:00:19.850 --> 01:00:20.830
these promise

01:00:21.510 --> 01:00:24.210
all of these insane crimes BCCI

01:00:24.210 --> 01:00:25.830
which actually started in

01:00:25.830 --> 01:00:27.950
the 70s with the CIA

01:00:27.950 --> 01:00:28.510
back then

01:00:28.510 --> 01:00:30.130
and then

01:00:30.130 --> 01:00:33.110
the 90s you have Bush senior

01:00:33.110 --> 01:00:35.370
Clinton but I mean it's a constant

01:00:35.370 --> 01:00:36.490
progression of these

01:00:36.490 --> 01:00:38.190
of this club

01:00:38.190 --> 01:00:41.390
all these politicians are owned by them

01:00:41.390 --> 01:00:43.310
and you know back in the

01:00:43.310 --> 01:00:45.450
70s people thought leaders actually ran

01:00:45.450 --> 01:00:46.990
things and then this guy told Congress

01:00:46.990 --> 01:00:47.970
no it's these

01:00:48.690 --> 01:00:50.610
corporations and they fused

01:00:50.610 --> 01:00:52.870
with the corporations of the communist

01:00:52.870 --> 01:00:55.370
block and this is what's running

01:00:55.370 --> 01:00:57.190
the world now and I think

01:00:57.930 --> 01:00:59.370
well I think if you

01:00:59.370 --> 01:01:01.310
look at it it's very obvious that's the case

01:01:01.310 --> 01:01:03.390
I think the whole idea that multi polarity

01:01:03.390 --> 01:01:05.430
is a real thing that like China

01:01:05.430 --> 01:01:07.430
in Russia offer any real

01:01:07.430 --> 01:01:09.450
challenge to this end

01:01:09.450 --> 01:01:10.970
game that the West is having

01:01:10.970 --> 01:01:13.570
of going to technocracy it's very obvious

01:01:13.570 --> 01:01:15.590
that they they've all adopted it themselves

01:01:15.590 --> 01:01:17.630
and China's the model for it

01:01:17.630 --> 01:01:19.330
hmm so it's an interesting

01:01:19.330 --> 01:01:21.390
China's going to save us from a model

01:01:21.390 --> 01:01:22.350
that helped perfect

01:01:23.090 --> 01:01:24.290
no right

01:01:24.290 --> 01:01:26.290
in Russia's full steam ahead

01:01:26.290 --> 01:01:28.130
on CBDCs and digital ID

01:01:28.130 --> 01:01:30.290
and all of this stuff like you're not escaping

01:01:30.290 --> 01:01:32.030
it by cheering on foreign

01:01:32.030 --> 01:01:33.790
countries that you think are nominal

01:01:34.130 --> 01:01:35.970
US adversaries and

01:01:35.970 --> 01:01:37.590
it's a convenient narrative

01:01:38.330 --> 01:01:40.430
for building infrastructure of the

01:01:40.430 --> 01:01:42.050
of the prison or if you want to use

01:01:42.050 --> 01:01:44.310
Catherine's term the digital control grid

01:01:44.310 --> 01:01:46.210
like right now all this the whole

01:01:46.210 --> 01:01:48.030
narrative about why we have to build

01:01:48.030 --> 01:01:50.150
AI mass surveillance in the United

01:01:50.150 --> 01:01:52.150
States and fill it with autonomous

01:01:52.150 --> 01:01:53.410
lethal drones

01:01:54.090 --> 01:01:56.330
is because China

01:01:56.330 --> 01:01:58.170
we have to beat China

01:01:58.170 --> 01:02:00.370
in the AI race but the people

01:02:00.970 --> 01:02:02.030
that are building

01:02:02.030 --> 01:02:04.430
in Silicon you know in Silicon Valley

01:02:04.430 --> 01:02:06.030
have tons of business interests

01:02:06.030 --> 01:02:06.730
in China

01:02:07.490 --> 01:02:09.930
I mean Elon Musk is a perfect example

01:02:09.930 --> 01:02:12.010
but also Google also Microsoft

01:02:12.010 --> 01:02:13.490
like all of these guys

01:02:14.150 --> 01:02:15.510
it's the same on all these points

01:02:16.150 --> 01:02:18.170
it's the same mob like why was

01:02:18.170 --> 01:02:19.210
Epstein on

01:02:20.030 --> 01:02:21.950
the very important

01:02:21.950 --> 01:02:23.610
Microsoft Russia

01:02:23.750 --> 01:02:25.670
trip in 1998

01:02:25.670 --> 01:02:28.090
and he's pictured in Russian

01:02:28.090 --> 01:02:30.390
classrooms with top Microsoft executives

01:02:30.390 --> 01:02:32.450
presumably looking for young talent

01:02:32.450 --> 01:02:34.170
with Nathan

01:02:34.170 --> 01:02:36.410
Mirvold who's the chief technology

01:02:36.410 --> 01:02:37.930
officer of Microsoft

01:02:37.930 --> 01:02:39.610
I mean

01:02:39.610 --> 01:02:41.710
I don't know they've been that

01:02:41.710 --> 01:02:44.050
is the transnet ideological corporation

01:02:44.050 --> 01:02:45.910
right there you know

01:02:45.910 --> 01:02:47.170
it's like they're all

01:02:47.170 --> 01:02:49.270
the corporations run everything

01:02:49.270 --> 01:02:51.410
but who runs them it's this oligarchy

01:02:51.910 --> 01:02:53.770
right and the point is you can see

01:02:53.770 --> 01:02:55.810
that kind of hypocrisy the blindness from

01:02:55.810 --> 01:02:57.770
always like Larry Fink being very close

01:02:57.770 --> 01:02:59.410
to Trump's inner circle but yet BlackRock

01:02:59.410 --> 01:03:00.830
was his money manager

01:03:00.830 --> 01:03:03.730
but they're still framed by the people that support him

01:03:03.730 --> 01:03:05.170
as sort of like the bad evil thing

01:03:05.170 --> 01:03:07.630
Jones will do a whole expose on how bad BlackRock is

01:03:07.630 --> 01:03:09.350
but you know it just it's so it's a weird

01:03:09.890 --> 01:03:11.250
deviation but what you're really

01:03:11.250 --> 01:03:13.650
Larry Fink advised Trump's entire

01:03:13.650 --> 01:03:15.830
economic response to COVID

01:03:15.830 --> 01:03:18.210
right Stephen Mnuchin called him

01:03:18.210 --> 01:03:19.650
like 19 times

01:03:19.650 --> 01:03:21.850
in like a very short span

01:03:22.430 --> 01:03:23.910
just like Larry

01:03:23.910 --> 01:03:25.370
what do I do okay

01:03:25.370 --> 01:03:27.570
I destroy the economy

01:03:27.570 --> 01:03:29.730
gotcha so you can buy it

01:03:29.730 --> 01:03:30.530
great

01:03:31.190 --> 01:03:34.070
I just find it really interesting that what you're describing

01:03:34.070 --> 01:03:35.730
is hypothetically the idea that the

01:03:35.730 --> 01:03:37.790
communist elements are essentially driving

01:03:37.790 --> 01:03:39.430
the change of our society

01:03:39.430 --> 01:03:41.490
and that's being supported by the people claiming

01:03:41.490 --> 01:03:42.890
they're fighting those things it's just a

01:03:42.890 --> 01:03:44.970
I mean what that really speaks to is the idea that

01:03:44.970 --> 01:03:47.250
all of what we deal with in the world is somewhat a show

01:03:47.250 --> 01:03:48.450
I think we really should be

01:03:48.450 --> 01:03:51.330
all the fear mongering about communist China

01:03:51.330 --> 01:03:53.490
China has a ton of billionaires they're an authoritarian

01:03:54.210 --> 01:03:55.090
capitalist society

01:03:55.090 --> 01:03:55.870
right

01:03:55.870 --> 01:03:59.070
I mean they don't hate capitalism are you kidding me

01:03:59.570 --> 01:04:01.050
I mean even and then Catherine

01:04:01.050 --> 01:04:03.270
called Trump the most anti-capitalist

01:04:03.270 --> 01:04:04.970
president in history you know and there's plenty

01:04:04.970 --> 01:04:07.030
points you made about what they're doing behind the

01:04:07.030 --> 01:04:08.790
it's just an interesting time to

01:04:08.790 --> 01:04:10.490
to stand back and question

01:04:10.490 --> 01:04:12.910
all of what we're looking at and again that's why

01:04:12.910 --> 01:04:14.790
I think this is sort of this transition that's taking

01:04:14.790 --> 01:04:16.790
place because people are just kind of waking

01:04:16.790 --> 01:04:18.490
up from it all it's we're tired of this

01:04:18.490 --> 01:04:20.870
it's been one cycle after another and I think people

01:04:20.870 --> 01:04:21.930
are just starting to see it you know

01:04:22.630 --> 01:04:24.810
yeah well I think the Epstein files have been

01:04:24.810 --> 01:04:26.690
good for revealing at least to some people

01:04:26.690 --> 01:04:28.750
the nature of the of how things

01:04:28.750 --> 01:04:30.750
really function and that there's there's

01:04:30.750 --> 01:04:32.850
a group operating

01:04:32.850 --> 01:04:34.650
above the visible group

01:04:34.650 --> 01:04:36.790
but there could easily be groups operating above

01:04:36.790 --> 01:04:38.410
that we just don't have the visibility

01:04:38.410 --> 01:04:40.610
into it right but

01:04:40.610 --> 01:04:42.690
stop thinking this is something you're going to

01:04:42.690 --> 01:04:44.550
resolve only at the ballot box

01:04:44.550 --> 01:04:46.650
if you want to spend one day every four years

01:04:46.650 --> 01:04:48.770
voting because you think it's important I

01:04:48.770 --> 01:04:50.410
don't care that's fine

01:04:50.410 --> 01:04:52.710
but if you think that's the only thing

01:04:52.710 --> 01:04:54.050
you need to do

01:04:54.950 --> 01:04:56.870
yeah I really don't agree with you

01:04:56.870 --> 01:04:58.950
yeah I think there's a lot

01:04:58.950 --> 01:05:00.710
that everyone needs to do personally

01:05:01.950 --> 01:05:02.670
you know

01:05:03.250 --> 01:05:04.990
like try and shore

01:05:04.990 --> 01:05:06.950
up their local communities or like

01:05:06.950 --> 01:05:08.990
develop if you don't want to participate in this

01:05:08.990 --> 01:05:10.810
digital currency crap

01:05:10.810 --> 01:05:12.430
you know build

01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:14.610
local community and

01:05:14.610 --> 01:05:17.090
try and develop your own

01:05:17.090 --> 01:05:18.810
parallel economy with people

01:05:18.810 --> 01:05:20.830
close to you I don't know

01:05:20.830 --> 01:05:22.130
I mean there's not a lot of

01:05:22.790 --> 01:05:25.250
easy solutions to these problems

01:05:25.250 --> 01:05:27.070
and that's because for many

01:05:27.070 --> 01:05:28.970
decades people have

01:05:28.970 --> 01:05:30.610
not spoken up when they should have

01:05:30.610 --> 01:05:33.050
and things were swept

01:05:33.050 --> 01:05:34.590
under the rug and then you know

01:05:34.590 --> 01:05:36.550
back in the day people were killed

01:05:36.550 --> 01:05:38.950
to keep you know certain information

01:05:38.950 --> 01:05:40.870
from becoming public I think

01:05:40.870 --> 01:05:43.210
now they just can algorithmically

01:05:43.210 --> 01:05:44.870
bury it or smear

01:05:44.870 --> 01:05:47.070
people or delete people's

01:05:47.070 --> 01:05:48.970
accounts and disappear them

01:05:48.970 --> 01:05:50.750
online now that all this course is online

01:05:50.750 --> 01:05:52.970
you know it's a little bit of a different

01:05:52.970 --> 01:05:54.770
game but yeah

01:05:54.770 --> 01:05:55.470
it's

01:05:56.310 --> 01:05:58.730
you know people have to make will have to

01:05:58.730 --> 01:05:59.770
make hard choices

01:06:00.790 --> 01:06:02.010
with what's coming

01:06:02.010 --> 01:06:03.450
and we should be talking about

01:06:03.450 --> 01:06:04.890
I mean people should

01:06:05.550 --> 01:06:07.570
openly acknowledge that instead of being like

01:06:07.570 --> 01:06:09.890
don't listen to those negative Nancy's

01:06:09.890 --> 01:06:11.690
you know this

01:06:11.690 --> 01:06:13.870
can be solved by voting for J.D. Vance

01:06:13.870 --> 01:06:14.970
in 2028

01:06:14.970 --> 01:06:17.350
it's coming you know but I think

01:06:17.350 --> 01:06:19.810
all these people that are like off the Trump train

01:06:19.810 --> 01:06:21.710
now will hop on the Vance or Rubio

01:06:21.710 --> 01:06:23.250
or whatever train it is

01:06:23.250 --> 01:06:25.770
I agree but mark my words it will

01:06:25.770 --> 01:06:27.110
be noticeably less

01:06:27.810 --> 01:06:29.670
hopefully so we can only hope

01:06:29.670 --> 01:06:31.110
we can see it right now and I think

01:06:31.110 --> 01:06:32.430
it's noticeably less that are you know

01:06:32.430 --> 01:06:34.470
I think they can see that these agendas

01:06:34.470 --> 01:06:35.990
like I was joking about this the other day

01:06:35.990 --> 01:06:37.570
and this has happened before with this topic

01:06:37.570 --> 01:06:39.530
but I see it others too but they basically

01:06:39.530 --> 01:06:41.210
come out for what the 15th time and go

01:06:41.210 --> 01:06:42.990
aliens are real and we're like whatever

01:06:42.990 --> 01:06:43.990
let's get to the next story

01:06:46.090 --> 01:06:47.850
well I mean they're going to throw

01:06:47.850 --> 01:06:49.430
the kitchen sink at everybody if they

01:06:49.430 --> 01:06:51.110
feel like they're losing control so

01:06:51.110 --> 01:06:52.770
that's what the alien thing I think

01:06:52.770 --> 01:06:54.850
has just been kind of simmering

01:06:54.850 --> 01:06:55.850
there I agree

01:06:56.470 --> 01:06:58.570
sorry I don't want to trust the

01:06:59.170 --> 01:07:00.810
department of the US government

01:07:00.810 --> 01:07:02.650
that just blew up an Iranian girl

01:07:02.650 --> 01:07:04.270
school because it listened to the wrong

01:07:04.270 --> 01:07:05.110
fucking AI

01:07:06.710 --> 01:07:07.830
about aliens

01:07:08.570 --> 01:07:10.570
sorry I don't really trust what they have to say

01:07:10.570 --> 01:07:12.290
about aliens right

01:07:12.290 --> 01:07:13.710
they're war criminals

01:07:13.710 --> 01:07:16.150
I don't trust them if anything

01:07:16.150 --> 01:07:18.210
they probably work with the aliens

01:07:18.530 --> 01:07:19.850
if they're like I don't know

01:07:19.850 --> 01:07:21.290
like it's just ridiculous

01:07:21.290 --> 01:07:22.930
I just think it's a huge

01:07:23.850 --> 01:07:25.530
distractionary thing and they try

01:07:25.530 --> 01:07:28.010
and back to what we were saying

01:07:28.010 --> 01:07:29.750
about leaks based journalism

01:07:29.750 --> 01:07:31.030
and how the twitter

01:07:31.830 --> 01:07:33.810
files like was meant to manipulate

01:07:33.810 --> 01:07:36.050
that I think a lot of times and even

01:07:36.050 --> 01:07:37.690
to an extent with you know some of the

01:07:37.690 --> 01:07:39.670
Epstein files even it's to keep our eyes

01:07:39.670 --> 01:07:42.070
off of other things and so when they release

01:07:42.070 --> 01:07:43.850
you know so when the Epstein files

01:07:43.850 --> 01:07:45.030
I don't know if you remember it was getting

01:07:45.030 --> 01:07:47.730
inconvenient for the Trump administration a few months ago

01:07:47.730 --> 01:07:50.290
Pete Hegseth was like we're going to release

01:07:50.290 --> 01:07:51.950
the UAP files

01:07:51.950 --> 01:07:53.290
right right exactly

01:07:53.290 --> 01:07:55.570
the alien files we're going to release them

01:07:55.570 --> 01:07:57.790
and then you can pour over that on the internet

01:07:57.790 --> 01:07:59.570
why we literally destroy your world

01:07:59.570 --> 01:08:00.850
and eat your money

01:08:02.050 --> 01:08:03.450
I mean it happens every time

01:08:03.450 --> 01:08:05.190
you know there's some level of kind of reaction

01:08:05.190 --> 01:08:07.550
right now the mainstream alternative media kind of does it for them

01:08:07.550 --> 01:08:09.490
with every you know whatever else they want to point to

01:08:09.490 --> 01:08:11.170
but I'll include for the

01:08:11.170 --> 01:08:13.610
show notes and for the podcast a great article written by

01:08:13.610 --> 01:08:14.590
Kevorka Masian from

01:08:14.590 --> 01:08:15.070
Oh Yeah

01:08:16.050 --> 01:08:18.310
which he was just kind of getting on what you

01:08:18.310 --> 01:08:20.670
were highlighting there is this growing

01:08:20.670 --> 01:08:22.750
awareness of like the real

01:08:22.750 --> 01:08:24.550
function the way our society is actually

01:08:24.550 --> 01:08:26.330
function and it's not government you know

01:08:26.330 --> 01:08:28.710
there's something above all of this and

01:08:28.710 --> 01:08:30.650
whether as you said it goes even more layers above that

01:08:30.650 --> 01:08:32.730
is that the people are just finally starting to go

01:08:32.730 --> 01:08:34.670
okay you know I'm seeing what

01:08:34.670 --> 01:08:36.550
you're talking about right it's like or people that

01:08:36.550 --> 01:08:38.410
read your books a long time ago and like I was saying

01:08:38.410 --> 01:08:40.710
just had trouble kind of you know there's so much

01:08:40.710 --> 01:08:42.410
information are now beginning to

01:08:42.410 --> 01:08:44.450
tell us they go okay now I can see

01:08:44.450 --> 01:08:46.430
exactly the reason they're

01:08:46.430 --> 01:08:48.730
my work is so info dense is one

01:08:48.730 --> 01:08:50.510
when I go on an interview to talk about

01:08:50.510 --> 01:08:52.490
them and people I mean I used to get the

01:08:52.490 --> 01:08:54.390
criticism that there's not enough sourcing

01:08:54.390 --> 01:08:56.570
like you're saying stuff but where are your sources

01:08:56.570 --> 01:08:58.290
read my written stuff

01:08:58.290 --> 01:09:00.570
if you want the sources you know that's

01:09:00.570 --> 01:09:02.430
why it's there and now I have people being

01:09:02.430 --> 01:09:04.410
like I can't read an article I know

01:09:04.410 --> 01:09:06.350
some of my articles are long but even if I read one

01:09:06.350 --> 01:09:08.250
that's like 20 minutes people are like what are they

01:09:08.250 --> 01:09:10.330
or 10 minutes what are the key takeaways

01:09:11.150 --> 01:09:13.410
that's like Brock what is this article about

01:09:13.410 --> 01:09:15.850
yeah it's frustrating but I think

01:09:15.850 --> 01:09:17.870
it needs to be long and this is the reason

01:09:17.870 --> 01:09:19.990
my show is all you these things are not something

01:09:19.990 --> 01:09:21.750
you can you know if you want headlines

01:09:21.750 --> 01:09:23.570
and talking points there's plenty of people out there

01:09:23.570 --> 01:09:25.510
repeating discussions you know but and that's

01:09:25.510 --> 01:09:27.090
necessary for some people that don't have time

01:09:27.090 --> 01:09:29.550
but to understand these things and not just

01:09:29.550 --> 01:09:31.590
repeat points but to understand them and be

01:09:31.590 --> 01:09:33.610
able to articulate and discuss

01:09:33.610 --> 01:09:35.370
you need the long form conversation

01:09:35.370 --> 01:09:37.850
you need it's important you know and I think

01:09:37.850 --> 01:09:39.990
again I think most people are very much aware

01:09:39.990 --> 01:09:41.990
of that today well let's

01:09:41.990 --> 01:09:43.930
let's end with just generally speaking the

01:09:43.930 --> 01:09:46.170
Iran points on this where I don't have

01:09:46.170 --> 01:09:47.670
much time you know just a couple more minutes we can

01:09:47.670 --> 01:09:49.890
touch on the wrong to wrap up here what's

01:09:49.890 --> 01:09:51.190
the time your time right now

01:09:52.030 --> 01:09:52.770
232 for me

01:09:55.150 --> 01:09:55.550
okay

01:09:55.550 --> 01:09:56.270
I'm changing

01:09:58.770 --> 01:09:59.170
well

01:09:59.710 --> 01:10:01.950
I had a time change and she lay has its

01:10:01.950 --> 01:10:04.050
own daylight savings so I'm like oh my god

01:10:04.050 --> 01:10:05.970
what time is it I'm so frustrated with

01:10:05.970 --> 01:10:07.970
the time the daylight savings times

01:10:07.970 --> 01:10:09.730
daylight savings time

01:10:09.730 --> 01:10:11.830
but all was going to end with was just

01:10:11.830 --> 01:10:13.750
you know we're so we already discussed

01:10:13.750 --> 01:10:15.870
really but the point was that we have examples

01:10:15.870 --> 01:10:17.950
of Marines now being deployed right but

01:10:17.950 --> 01:10:20.010
an argument more about guiding

01:10:20.010 --> 01:10:21.870
ships through the path but look I'm pretty

01:10:21.870 --> 01:10:24.090
I argue that we know there are boots on the ground

01:10:24.090 --> 01:10:25.950
and have been long before this and I think that's very

01:10:25.950 --> 01:10:27.950
clear now from a lot of different angles but now

01:10:27.950 --> 01:10:30.030
we actually have their marines headed

01:10:30.030 --> 01:10:32.050
to the Middle East conversation and that's

01:10:32.050 --> 01:10:33.830
for Israel guys that's not even debated it's

01:10:33.830 --> 01:10:35.650
clear what they're telling you they're trying to do

01:10:35.650 --> 01:10:37.770
right now and I think

01:10:37.770 --> 01:10:39.690
right now it's obvious this is all kind of coming

01:10:39.690 --> 01:10:41.570
down you know people are starting to see through

01:10:41.570 --> 01:10:43.430
this I don't know if anybody can tell for

01:10:43.430 --> 01:10:45.270
you know know for sure which sides

01:10:45.890 --> 01:10:47.510
effectively winning you know all that kind of

01:10:47.510 --> 01:10:49.510
stuff but I think it's worth questioning a

01:10:49.510 --> 01:10:51.290
lot of this and I'm of the mind right now

01:10:51.290 --> 01:10:53.410
that the way that they set this up the way

01:10:53.410 --> 01:10:55.290
that they I mean

01:10:55.290 --> 01:10:57.290
almost set themselves to fail quite frankly

01:10:57.290 --> 01:10:58.930
and I you know what out there what I think

01:10:58.930 --> 01:11:00.770
that's driving from that ultimately I think

01:11:00.770 --> 01:11:02.930
it's Iran playing the long game I think

01:11:02.930 --> 01:11:04.790
we can see that slowly starting to

01:11:04.790 --> 01:11:06.610
become clear with the weapons transactions

01:11:06.610 --> 01:11:07.930
are doing and so on but just

01:11:09.230 --> 01:11:10.850
overview from your opinion you know where

01:11:10.850 --> 01:11:12.770
do you see this going

01:11:12.770 --> 01:11:14.770
you know in regard to Iran do you think this

01:11:14.770 --> 01:11:16.790
is if you have any thoughts on it all just let me know if you think that

01:11:16.790 --> 01:11:18.890
that's going to continue it's going to stop what do you think

01:11:19.850 --> 01:11:21.470
um I mean I could go one of two

01:11:21.470 --> 01:11:22.550
ways obviously

01:11:22.550 --> 01:11:25.050
um and I'm not really I'm I just

01:11:25.050 --> 01:11:26.570
want to be really honest I'm not really sure

01:11:27.030 --> 01:11:28.930
how it could play out like I said earlier

01:11:28.930 --> 01:11:30.990
I think if the US succeeds and what

01:11:30.990 --> 01:11:31.990
it's trying to do there

01:11:32.670 --> 01:11:34.810
Gaza is the absolute

01:11:34.810 --> 01:11:36.850
model for what

01:11:36.850 --> 01:11:39.050
the US and Israel hope to install it's

01:11:39.050 --> 01:11:40.990
been very clear that Trump plans he's

01:11:40.990 --> 01:11:42.970
already said plans to select the new

01:11:42.970 --> 01:11:44.610
leader they've

01:11:44.610 --> 01:11:47.190
claimed anyway that they've intentionally

01:11:47.190 --> 01:11:49.130
targeted any sort

01:11:49.130 --> 01:11:50.310
of leadership candidate

01:11:51.050 --> 01:11:52.450
um of Iran

01:11:53.350 --> 01:11:55.010
you know since this started

01:11:55.010 --> 01:11:57.030
um but also you know

01:11:57.030 --> 01:11:58.790
military assessments going back

01:11:58.790 --> 01:12:00.610
uh you know over the

01:12:01.330 --> 01:12:02.970
several iterations we've

01:12:02.970 --> 01:12:04.910
had of you know Netanyahu

01:12:04.910 --> 01:12:06.930
getting in front of the UN with like the red

01:12:06.930 --> 01:12:09.010
bomb diagram being like they're this close to

01:12:09.010 --> 01:12:11.010
a bomb we should invade the US

01:12:11.010 --> 01:12:12.470
should invade um

01:12:12.470 --> 01:12:14.890
you know all of that I mean that's been going on a long

01:12:14.890 --> 01:12:17.010
time and and assessments back then

01:12:17.010 --> 01:12:18.850
you know pointed to how

01:12:18.850 --> 01:12:20.650
Iran is much more difficult

01:12:21.950 --> 01:12:22.990
uh to

01:12:22.990 --> 01:12:25.010
invade then you know Iraq

01:12:25.010 --> 01:12:26.230
for example

01:12:26.770 --> 01:12:28.350
um and that you know

01:12:29.010 --> 01:12:30.930
both for geographical reasons

01:12:30.930 --> 01:12:32.810
and political reasons

01:12:32.810 --> 01:12:34.690
um you know

01:12:34.690 --> 01:12:35.710
so

01:12:35.710 --> 01:12:38.790
the idea that it was going to be

01:12:38.790 --> 01:12:40.630
solved just by like a week of

01:12:40.630 --> 01:12:43.210
uh you know aerial bombings

01:12:43.210 --> 01:12:45.210
if they if the goal really was

01:12:45.210 --> 01:12:46.290
to you know

01:12:46.910 --> 01:12:48.950
install a US Israeli

01:12:48.950 --> 01:12:49.690
puppet

01:12:49.690 --> 01:12:52.730
uh yeah I mean it makes sense that it would

01:12:52.730 --> 01:12:54.790
eventually move to a different phase

01:12:54.790 --> 01:12:56.710
um I hate

01:12:56.710 --> 01:12:58.850
that it's happening it's just so

01:12:58.850 --> 01:13:00.830
annoying to me because so many people that were like

01:13:00.830 --> 01:13:03.010
anti-Neocon cheerleaded

01:13:03.010 --> 01:13:04.410
this administration

01:13:04.410 --> 01:13:06.830
on and acted like a vote

01:13:06.830 --> 01:13:08.990
for Trump was the anti-Neocon

01:13:08.990 --> 01:13:10.850
vote and it's just so

01:13:10.850 --> 01:13:12.590
frustrating um because

01:13:12.590 --> 01:13:14.290
if you look at the first administration

01:13:14.290 --> 01:13:16.690
should have been clear uh

01:13:16.690 --> 01:13:18.770
you know uh he does

01:13:18.770 --> 01:13:20.750
what Sheldon Adelson wants for the foreign

01:13:20.750 --> 01:13:22.870
policy angle and now Sheldon

01:13:22.870 --> 01:13:24.370
is dead and Miriam is there

01:13:24.370 --> 01:13:26.230
uh and it's the same crap

01:13:27.470 --> 01:13:28.670
um and

01:13:28.670 --> 01:13:30.730
you know a lot of innocent people are

01:13:30.730 --> 01:13:31.970
getting blown up

01:13:32.770 --> 01:13:34.410
and uh you know

01:13:34.410 --> 01:13:36.350
our government is obviously

01:13:36.350 --> 01:13:38.890
doing it they're complicit and behind

01:13:38.890 --> 01:13:41.170
them are the big tech warlords

01:13:41.170 --> 01:13:42.650
uh like

01:13:42.650 --> 01:13:44.790
Peter Thiel chairman of Palantir

01:13:44.790 --> 01:13:46.970
I know people have tried to downplay his involvement

01:13:46.970 --> 01:13:48.550
yes he dumped some shares

01:13:48.550 --> 01:13:50.570
as far as I know he's still

01:13:50.570 --> 01:13:52.330
chairman of the board and has been

01:13:52.330 --> 01:13:53.710
and he created that company

01:13:53.710 --> 01:13:56.050
um yeah

01:13:57.690 --> 01:13:59.090
yeah and and

01:13:59.090 --> 01:14:00.150
and Palmer Lucky of Andrew

01:14:01.150 --> 01:14:02.310
uh who

01:14:02.310 --> 01:14:04.470
is like mad that like Wired

01:14:04.470 --> 01:14:06.330
says he's like a bad person in

01:14:06.330 --> 01:14:08.550
Silicon Valley yeah you're a fucking warlord

01:14:08.550 --> 01:14:10.350
dude right um

01:14:10.350 --> 01:14:12.630
and you're taking humans out of I mean

01:14:12.630 --> 01:14:15.090
think about how many war crimes

01:14:15.090 --> 01:14:16.470
the US committed in Iraq

01:14:16.470 --> 01:14:18.290
and Afghanistan and like

01:14:18.290 --> 01:14:20.530
people went to prison for revealing

01:14:20.530 --> 01:14:21.050
them

01:14:21.690 --> 01:14:24.610
and that was when there was only

01:14:24.610 --> 01:14:25.550
human oversight

01:14:26.230 --> 01:14:26.870
imagine

01:14:27.570 --> 01:14:30.350
the world that people like Palmer Lucky are building

01:14:30.350 --> 01:14:32.610
where they want it to be 100% autonomous

01:14:32.610 --> 01:14:34.350
and AI regularly

01:14:34.350 --> 01:14:36.410
hallucinates and we know

01:14:36.410 --> 01:14:38.390
that the Pentagon under Trump has been using

01:14:38.390 --> 01:14:39.530
AI to pick who to target

01:14:40.190 --> 01:14:41.650
in American AIs were

01:14:41.650 --> 01:14:43.630
chosen to you know

01:14:43.630 --> 01:14:44.710
and we're

01:14:44.710 --> 01:14:46.730
used to choose targets in Gaza

01:14:47.250 --> 01:14:48.650
and look what happened there

01:14:48.650 --> 01:14:51.030
that's the model right there and in the Iranian

01:14:51.030 --> 01:14:52.810
girl school I mean this is

01:14:53.490 --> 01:14:54.990
it's so criminal

01:14:54.990 --> 01:14:56.450
it's hard to describe

01:14:56.970 --> 01:14:59.250
it's hard to even really wrap your mind around

01:14:59.250 --> 01:15:00.810
without just feeling sick to your

01:15:00.810 --> 01:15:03.470
stomach um and I just

01:15:03.470 --> 01:15:04.210
um

01:15:05.070 --> 01:15:06.810
I hate this is where we're at

01:15:06.810 --> 01:15:08.910
in the COVID era I had so much hope

01:15:08.910 --> 01:15:10.370
that people would figure out that this

01:15:10.370 --> 01:15:11.970
these people were bad

01:15:11.970 --> 01:15:13.950
and here we are

01:15:13.950 --> 01:15:14.850
and

01:15:14.850 --> 01:15:18.410
I don't know mass murder is not

01:15:18.410 --> 01:15:20.090
the solution and I

01:15:20.090 --> 01:15:22.450
the whole model that we talked about earlier

01:15:22.450 --> 01:15:24.210
of it's coercion

01:15:24.210 --> 01:15:25.770
or it's bombing

01:15:26.370 --> 01:15:28.290
and it's leading us all

01:15:28.290 --> 01:15:29.810
to you know all the

01:15:30.250 --> 01:15:32.450
pressuring national governments around the world

01:15:32.450 --> 01:15:34.470
to adopt these systems

01:15:34.470 --> 01:15:36.130
that are going to be used

01:15:36.130 --> 01:15:36.910
to impose

01:15:36.910 --> 01:15:38.930
a techno feudalism

01:15:38.930 --> 01:15:40.150
so we're not just seeding

01:15:40.630 --> 01:15:42.270
national sovereignty formally

01:15:42.830 --> 01:15:44.570
the goal is to have a seed our

01:15:44.570 --> 01:15:46.930
sovereignty even the sovereignty over our own

01:15:46.930 --> 01:15:48.190
bodies if this gets

01:15:48.190 --> 01:15:49.650
far long enough

01:15:50.710 --> 01:15:52.550
it's being done by blowing

01:15:52.550 --> 01:15:53.870
children

01:15:54.570 --> 01:15:56.690
and innocent people to bits

01:15:58.610 --> 01:16:00.570
and it's sick and I think

01:16:00.570 --> 01:16:03.050
people that think these bombings are a good thing

01:16:03.050 --> 01:16:04.290
are either

01:16:04.290 --> 01:16:05.870
heavily propagandized

01:16:05.870 --> 01:16:08.290
or sociopathic

01:16:09.630 --> 01:16:10.890
I agree entirely

01:16:10.890 --> 01:16:11.990
but to end with

01:16:11.990 --> 01:16:14.710
a positive point that I do

01:16:14.710 --> 01:16:16.490
very much see in this and it's not just trying to

01:16:16.490 --> 01:16:17.750
be like wishful thinking

01:16:18.200 --> 01:16:19.450
is that I agree with you that

01:16:19.450 --> 01:16:22.090
there's been ups and downs and let downs for sure

01:16:22.090 --> 01:16:24.130
but this last transition

01:16:24.130 --> 01:16:26.190
has been different at least from my perspective

01:16:26.190 --> 01:16:27.930
from the time I've been doing this

01:16:27.930 --> 01:16:29.750
and I very much do feel

01:16:29.750 --> 01:16:31.670
and I hope I'm not wrong

01:16:31.670 --> 01:16:33.270
let's have hope for where it goes

01:16:33.270 --> 01:16:34.590
but the people are genuinely

01:16:34.590 --> 01:16:36.590
in a different place than they were

01:16:36.590 --> 01:16:38.070
over the last few times

01:16:38.070 --> 01:16:40.990
and I think the COVID-19 timeframe had a very big effect

01:16:40.990 --> 01:16:42.930
on that but I think October 7th

01:16:42.930 --> 01:16:44.030
more than anything forward

01:16:44.030 --> 01:16:45.610
the way they handled that

01:16:45.610 --> 01:16:47.070
I think it changed the entire game

01:16:47.070 --> 01:16:48.490
and I think now I'm hoping

01:16:48.970 --> 01:16:50.730
we're going to see this start to change

01:16:51.150 --> 01:16:53.110
there's always going to be new agendas, new lies

01:16:53.110 --> 01:16:54.950
new Q and A's and Russia gays

01:16:54.950 --> 01:16:56.390
and whatever else but I think there are people

01:16:56.390 --> 01:16:57.870
more on guard than ever to that

01:16:57.870 --> 01:16:59.690
and that's hopefully with us here now

01:16:59.690 --> 01:17:01.590
everybody out there doing this in an objective way

01:17:01.590 --> 01:17:03.270
that we will see a positive change

01:17:03.270 --> 01:17:05.250
if we keep fighting this and I'd like to believe

01:17:05.250 --> 01:17:06.490
we have that opportunity right now

01:17:06.490 --> 01:17:08.650
so put a little bit of a positive note on it

01:17:08.650 --> 01:17:09.410
I really do think that

01:17:09.410 --> 01:17:11.210
thanks for the positive spin

01:17:11.210 --> 01:17:13.850
sorry I just really don't like war

01:17:13.850 --> 01:17:15.770
and so I think it's very

01:17:16.330 --> 01:17:16.770
ugh

01:17:19.330 --> 01:17:20.930
I hate that it's happening

01:17:20.930 --> 01:17:23.810
and I hate that this was so preventable

01:17:23.810 --> 01:17:24.850
and it was

01:17:24.850 --> 01:17:27.490
and the administration is just treating it

01:17:27.490 --> 01:17:29.190
like it was just like oh well my son

01:17:29.190 --> 01:17:30.510
and I'll walk through the door

01:17:31.330 --> 01:17:32.510
yeah why not

01:17:33.310 --> 01:17:35.030
they're so obviously trapped in this

01:17:35.030 --> 01:17:37.870
at the very least because they don't want us to see

01:17:37.870 --> 01:17:38.770
who's actually calling this out

01:17:38.770 --> 01:17:41.190
but this is why the Trump administration

01:17:41.190 --> 01:17:43.250
when they chose their cabinet they put in people

01:17:43.250 --> 01:17:45.310
that were like either TV show hosts

01:17:45.310 --> 01:17:47.670
or like popular podcast influencers

01:17:47.670 --> 01:17:48.730
it was people who

01:17:49.290 --> 01:17:50.910
had trust with the base

01:17:50.910 --> 01:17:52.830
and so when they deliver the message

01:17:52.830 --> 01:17:54.210
of we're invading Iran

01:17:54.210 --> 01:17:55.850
they would be like that's fine

01:17:56.610 --> 01:17:58.050
Tulsi Gabbard's anti-war

01:17:58.050 --> 01:18:00.350
so if she says we have to go to war with Iran

01:18:00.350 --> 01:18:01.990
and we do it and blah blah blah

01:18:03.090 --> 01:18:04.610
that was why they wanted to

01:18:06.130 --> 01:18:06.970
Gabbard's their token

01:18:06.970 --> 01:18:08.950
and I'm sure she sees that about herself right now

01:18:08.950 --> 01:18:10.130
or maybe she's never been genuine

01:18:10.130 --> 01:18:12.530
I don't trust any of these people

01:18:13.090 --> 01:18:15.430
we should question all of them

01:18:15.430 --> 01:18:16.730
all the time that's what we do

01:18:16.730 --> 01:18:17.570
we have to

01:18:17.570 --> 01:18:19.010
like even like I say with a Massey

01:18:19.010 --> 01:18:21.350
like I'll continue to point out like his consistency

01:18:21.350 --> 01:18:23.590
thus far in this conversation

01:18:23.590 --> 01:18:25.790
but I would probably never

01:18:25.790 --> 01:18:27.470
I mean I don't think we ever should trust

01:18:27.470 --> 01:18:29.230
my biggest worry

01:18:29.230 --> 01:18:31.170
about someone like Thomas Massey

01:18:31.170 --> 01:18:33.430
is if they wanted to try and do the

01:18:33.430 --> 01:18:35.330
Hopium thing in 2028

01:18:35.330 --> 01:18:36.950
they would tack him on a ticket

01:18:37.360 --> 01:18:39.570
and maybe they would make him a lot of promises

01:18:39.570 --> 01:18:40.750
maybe he

01:18:40.750 --> 01:18:43.370
maybe he really is a genuine guy

01:18:43.370 --> 01:18:45.590
but the idea that we can only fix this

01:18:45.590 --> 01:18:47.590
at the ballot box I don't think is

01:18:47.590 --> 01:18:49.270
true and you could

01:18:49.270 --> 01:18:51.470
hoodwink a lot of people into thinking

01:18:51.470 --> 01:18:53.630
that is true if you were to run

01:18:53.630 --> 01:18:55.210
someone like him or

01:18:55.210 --> 01:18:57.310
you know someone some people have

01:18:57.310 --> 01:18:58.790
hypothesized a

01:18:59.370 --> 01:19:01.670
bipartisan Rokana Massey ticket

01:19:01.670 --> 01:19:03.610
yeah I'm waiting for

01:19:03.610 --> 01:19:05.650
that yeah so I

01:19:05.650 --> 01:19:07.490
would again it's

01:19:07.490 --> 01:19:09.530
important the people who are building trust right

01:19:09.530 --> 01:19:11.650
now even if it's through accurate

01:19:11.650 --> 01:19:12.190
reporting

01:19:13.290 --> 01:19:14.910
you got to pay attention to

01:19:14.910 --> 01:19:16.410
the potential misdirection

01:19:16.410 --> 01:19:18.350
that's coming at the end because a lot of these

01:19:18.350 --> 01:19:20.330
people that are building trust right now

01:19:20.330 --> 01:19:22.030
are lifting the work of others

01:19:22.030 --> 01:19:24.330
to build that trust or at least

01:19:24.330 --> 01:19:26.490
building off of it and not really citing it

01:19:26.490 --> 01:19:28.090
I mean that's not just true for Epstein

01:19:28.090 --> 01:19:30.030
that's true for some digital currency reporting

01:19:30.030 --> 01:19:32.070
and a lot in other things that are going on

01:19:32.070 --> 01:19:34.490
right now so as a result

01:19:34.490 --> 01:19:36.470
the amount of people I trust

01:19:36.470 --> 01:19:38.690
in alt media has dwindled

01:19:39.370 --> 01:19:39.850
wow

01:19:40.850 --> 01:19:41.650
a lot

01:19:41.650 --> 01:19:44.350
but you know it is what it is

01:19:44.770 --> 01:19:46.270
yeah I mean it's at least

01:19:46.270 --> 01:19:47.890
we can you know I mean I agree with you

01:19:47.890 --> 01:19:49.730
I think a lot of people are getting there you know but

01:19:49.730 --> 01:19:51.690
I think right now the questioning is important

01:19:51.690 --> 01:19:53.790
so I'm glad that that's where people are getting

01:19:53.790 --> 01:19:54.990
to so thank you for

01:19:54.990 --> 01:19:58.010
I can't complain about

01:19:58.010 --> 01:19:59.370
it no I still have

01:19:59.370 --> 01:20:00.210
10 minutes

01:20:02.410 --> 01:20:03.390
okay yeah well

01:20:03.390 --> 01:20:05.670
let's get into one more point then so let's

01:20:06.410 --> 01:20:07.990
well we didn't talk a ton about

01:20:07.990 --> 01:20:09.710
my article so if you don't mind

01:20:09.710 --> 01:20:10.650
I'll give people the quick

01:20:11.930 --> 01:20:13.450
brief rundown so

01:20:13.450 --> 01:20:15.230
I think all we really established

01:20:15.230 --> 01:20:16.710
I got like on a tangent there

01:20:16.710 --> 01:20:19.890
sorry about the earlier iterations of the series

01:20:21.050 --> 01:20:23.310
it is a thing that happens

01:20:23.310 --> 01:20:25.470
when we are on the same stream Ryan

01:20:25.470 --> 01:20:26.610
I don't know

01:20:27.590 --> 01:20:29.370
the years of practice

01:20:30.650 --> 01:20:32.110
but yeah so basically

01:20:32.110 --> 01:20:34.010
we already established right that

01:20:34.010 --> 01:20:36.070
the torture video redacted Sultan guy

01:20:36.070 --> 01:20:38.010
that the Trump administration was protecting

01:20:39.010 --> 01:20:39.650
is

01:20:39.650 --> 01:20:41.770
one of the subjects of this article

01:20:41.770 --> 01:20:43.910
as you can see there there he is

01:20:43.910 --> 01:20:45.730
he was a business partner of Trump

01:20:45.730 --> 01:20:47.670
Trump's first involvement

01:20:47.670 --> 01:20:50.010
in the United Arab Emirates

01:20:50.010 --> 01:20:52.050
first a business venture

01:20:53.110 --> 01:20:53.750
was

01:20:53.750 --> 01:20:55.490
with a company

01:20:55.830 --> 01:20:57.730
Suleyem controlled called Nakil

01:20:57.730 --> 01:20:59.430
and they were going to build Trump Tower Dubai

01:20:59.950 --> 01:21:01.970
and it only fell apart because of the

01:21:01.970 --> 01:21:03.970
2008 financial crisis

01:21:03.970 --> 01:21:06.170
because Andrew Farkas and most likely

01:21:06.170 --> 01:21:08.050
Jeffrey Epstein had them create

01:21:08.050 --> 01:21:09.510
a secondary mortgage market

01:21:09.510 --> 01:21:11.730
which parked a bunch of money in the Cayman Islands

01:21:11.730 --> 01:21:13.550
and created all this crazy

01:21:14.130 --> 01:21:15.910
mortgage backed security crap

01:21:15.910 --> 01:21:17.490
that exploded in 2008

01:21:18.530 --> 01:21:20.430
obviously in the United States

01:21:20.430 --> 01:21:22.310
in a huge way but also in Dubai

01:21:22.310 --> 01:21:23.430
completely

01:21:23.970 --> 01:21:25.890
thanks to the system that Andrew

01:21:25.890 --> 01:21:27.770
Farkas built at the same time he was

01:21:27.770 --> 01:21:29.870
hanging around Epstein who had also helped

01:21:29.870 --> 01:21:31.950
park fairs Stearns

01:21:31.950 --> 01:21:34.110
toxic mortgage debt in an offshore

01:21:34.110 --> 01:21:36.210
vehicle in the exact same timeline

01:21:36.210 --> 01:21:37.930
so very

01:21:37.930 --> 01:21:38.790
interesting there

01:21:38.790 --> 01:21:42.450
but this is

01:21:42.450 --> 01:21:44.050
a fraction of what I

01:21:44.050 --> 01:21:44.690
talk about

01:21:45.790 --> 01:21:47.690
in this and so I want to bring

01:21:47.690 --> 01:21:50.110
so basically the reason it's

01:21:50.110 --> 01:21:52.070
titled this way is because

01:21:52.070 --> 01:21:53.810
Andrew Farkas was instrumental

01:21:53.810 --> 01:21:56.050
in Epstein establishing the

01:21:56.050 --> 01:21:57.750
system he had in the US

01:21:57.750 --> 01:21:59.930
VI particularly the Marina

01:21:59.930 --> 01:22:00.710
he used

01:22:00.710 --> 01:22:03.070
to establish his private

01:22:03.750 --> 01:22:05.390
telecommunications connections including

01:22:05.390 --> 01:22:06.910
the surveillance cameras

01:22:06.910 --> 01:22:09.510
that were likely used to blackmail people

01:22:09.510 --> 01:22:10.350
on the island

01:22:10.350 --> 01:22:13.030
all to point back to this Marina

01:22:13.030 --> 01:22:15.330
that Andrew Farkas co-owned with Epstein

01:22:15.330 --> 01:22:17.470
and Epstein we don't know how much money

01:22:17.470 --> 01:22:19.270
either of them paid for it

01:22:19.910 --> 01:22:20.650
by the way

01:22:20.650 --> 01:22:23.310
but they were co-owners and Epstein

01:22:23.310 --> 01:22:24.770
also had two of his businesses

01:22:24.770 --> 01:22:27.150
park their financial trust company

01:22:27.150 --> 01:22:29.010
which later turned into

01:22:29.010 --> 01:22:31.190
southern trust company and it employed

01:22:31.190 --> 01:22:33.010
the wife of the

01:22:33.010 --> 01:22:35.170
US VI prime minister at the time that

01:22:35.170 --> 01:22:36.430
Epstein moved his primary

01:22:37.030 --> 01:22:39.170
base of operations to be in the

01:22:39.170 --> 01:22:41.050
US VI and she was a huge

01:22:41.050 --> 01:22:43.230
fixer for him and those companies

01:22:43.230 --> 01:22:45.070
were tied to criminal activity

01:22:45.070 --> 01:22:46.930
in these past US VI lawsuits

01:22:46.930 --> 01:22:48.450
that were settled out of court

01:22:49.710 --> 01:22:51.190
and what he wanted

01:22:51.190 --> 01:22:52.530
to do with one of those companies

01:22:53.100 --> 01:22:54.290
was recruit

01:22:54.290 --> 01:22:55.310
teens

01:22:55.930 --> 01:22:57.290
from the US VI

01:22:57.290 --> 01:22:59.990
and have them run all the AI servers

01:22:59.990 --> 01:23:01.870
of the company for it. It was like a

01:23:01.870 --> 01:23:04.150
financial algorithmic AI trading

01:23:04.150 --> 01:23:06.170
firm and also involved

01:23:06.170 --> 01:23:08.390
in like biomedical algorithmic

01:23:08.390 --> 01:23:10.170
stuff and he wanted kids

01:23:10.170 --> 01:23:11.970
to run it which is weird when you're

01:23:11.970 --> 01:23:13.590
dealing with someone like Epstein who's

01:23:13.590 --> 01:23:15.990
both a pedophile and a transhumanist

01:23:15.990 --> 01:23:17.730
and she was helping Epstein get

01:23:17.730 --> 01:23:19.910
student visas for traffic girls

01:23:19.910 --> 01:23:22.270
at a US VI university

01:23:22.270 --> 01:23:23.810
that they weren't actually attending

01:23:23.810 --> 01:23:25.550
so what do you think she also did

01:23:25.550 --> 01:23:27.350
why her husband

01:23:27.350 --> 01:23:28.850
was prime minister

01:23:30.310 --> 01:23:32.030
I can't believe I'm saying prime

01:23:32.030 --> 01:23:34.150
minister governor, US VI is a US

01:23:34.150 --> 01:23:35.450
territory, I'm sorry

01:23:37.090 --> 01:23:38.170
I will

01:23:38.170 --> 01:23:40.010
get rid of these mistakes

01:23:40.010 --> 01:23:42.190
at some point when I'm back in the

01:23:42.190 --> 01:23:44.190
flow of interviews a little bit more

01:23:44.190 --> 01:23:45.210
sorry about that

01:23:46.170 --> 01:23:48.390
but it's very messed up and actually

01:23:48.970 --> 01:23:49.510
the

01:23:49.510 --> 01:23:51.730
governor in question had

01:23:51.730 --> 01:23:53.470
to resign because he got caught

01:23:53.470 --> 01:23:55.130
in this corruption embezzlement scandal

01:23:55.130 --> 01:23:57.270
that intimately involved people from like

01:23:57.270 --> 01:23:58.810
the Obama and Clinton spheres

01:23:59.530 --> 01:24:00.950
which is interesting

01:24:01.370 --> 01:24:03.050
and there's a really good article by

01:24:03.050 --> 01:24:05.150
Corey's digs that I cite in here for

01:24:05.150 --> 01:24:06.570
more information about that

01:24:06.570 --> 01:24:08.650
specifically it's very crazy

01:24:09.450 --> 01:24:11.310
but in addition to that

01:24:11.310 --> 01:24:12.790
you have the Ben-Suliam angle

01:24:13.770 --> 01:24:15.370
and it's important the reason

01:24:15.370 --> 01:24:17.390
Farkas and Ben-Suliam are both included

01:24:17.390 --> 01:24:19.150
here is because they're longtime business partners

01:24:19.150 --> 01:24:20.830
they go everywhere together since like

01:24:20.830 --> 01:24:22.390
2002 when they were introduced

01:24:22.390 --> 01:24:24.290
they were introduced by a close friend of

01:24:24.290 --> 01:24:25.650
Trump named Sol Kirsner

01:24:26.930 --> 01:24:29.590
who is part of the South African

01:24:30.390 --> 01:24:31.350
I guess

01:24:31.350 --> 01:24:32.890
real estate hotel

01:24:32.890 --> 01:24:35.250
dynasty that have a lot of

01:24:35.250 --> 01:24:37.450
suspect connections as noted

01:24:37.450 --> 01:24:38.730
in the

01:24:39.290 --> 01:24:41.170
piece but Ben-Suliam

01:24:41.170 --> 01:24:43.470
as I mentioned earlier was

01:24:43.470 --> 01:24:45.650
basically in control of a huge

01:24:45.650 --> 01:24:47.590
portfolio dealing with freight

01:24:47.590 --> 01:24:49.690
and also you know marinas and

01:24:49.690 --> 01:24:51.110
ports around the world

01:24:51.110 --> 01:24:52.730
and Farkas also

01:24:53.570 --> 01:24:55.850
controls an insane amount of

01:24:55.850 --> 01:24:57.650
marinas mainly for

01:24:57.650 --> 01:24:59.510
large yachts around

01:24:59.510 --> 01:25:01.370
the world and one of the reason he got in the

01:25:01.370 --> 01:25:02.750
yachting business was because

01:25:04.690 --> 01:25:05.470
billionaires with

01:25:05.470 --> 01:25:07.630
giant yachts like Leslie Wexner

01:25:07.630 --> 01:25:09.150
and his yacht The Limitless

01:25:09.150 --> 01:25:11.090
had votes that were so big

01:25:11.090 --> 01:25:13.070
they couldn't go into existing marinas

01:25:13.070 --> 01:25:15.030
so he's his marinas serve

01:25:15.030 --> 01:25:16.430
in particular

01:25:17.170 --> 01:25:18.870
this upper class

01:25:18.870 --> 01:25:20.450
with their giant ass boats

01:25:21.190 --> 01:25:23.310
and they're connected to traffickers

01:25:23.310 --> 01:25:24.950
okay and so the

01:25:24.950 --> 01:25:27.010
Ben-Suliam guy if you look at his recent

01:25:27.010 --> 01:25:28.990
releases with Epstein he's talking

01:25:28.990 --> 01:25:29.450
about

01:25:29.450 --> 01:25:32.490
and Farkas too they're talking about

01:25:32.850 --> 01:25:34.130
can I you know trading

01:25:34.130 --> 01:25:36.470
masseuses and the girls and

01:25:37.030 --> 01:25:38.650
Farkas was photographed on a yacht

01:25:38.650 --> 01:25:40.710
with Epstein, Jean-Luc Brunel and women who were

01:25:40.710 --> 01:25:42.570
most likely trafficked knowing what Brunel

01:25:42.570 --> 01:25:43.650
and Epstein did together

01:25:44.630 --> 01:25:46.190
and in Ben-Suliam

01:25:46.710 --> 01:25:48.590
in his communications about women

01:25:48.590 --> 01:25:50.410
in the torture video

01:25:50.410 --> 01:25:52.530
I mean it's very clear that something very dark

01:25:52.530 --> 01:25:53.970
was going on between these men

01:25:54.690 --> 01:25:56.510
but beyond that you have to look at what

01:25:56.510 --> 01:25:58.830
they were what they controlled

01:25:58.830 --> 01:26:00.550
and that they also have

01:26:00.550 --> 01:26:02.610
this background in criminal activity and also

01:26:02.610 --> 01:26:04.550
Epstein's own past in criminal

01:26:04.550 --> 01:26:06.450
activity and as I noted earlier

01:26:06.450 --> 01:26:08.530
what was Epstein doing he was smuggling

01:26:08.530 --> 01:26:09.630
and moving stuff around

01:26:10.310 --> 01:26:12.390
it went from weapons it went to

01:26:12.390 --> 01:26:13.930
women but

01:26:14.570 --> 01:26:16.070
basically you know he also

01:26:16.070 --> 01:26:18.490
corrupted and cultivated a lot

01:26:18.490 --> 01:26:20.570
of customs officers both in Florida

01:26:20.570 --> 01:26:21.870
and in the USVI

01:26:21.870 --> 01:26:23.870
he could move anyone or anything

01:26:24.530 --> 01:26:26.290
anywhere and Farkas

01:26:26.290 --> 01:26:28.210
and Ben-Suliam could help him do it

01:26:28.210 --> 01:26:30.230
and they have a track record of doing that

01:26:30.230 --> 01:26:31.590
and they are not being investigated

01:26:31.590 --> 01:26:33.970
and they absolutely should be because they're

01:26:33.970 --> 01:26:36.310
clearly big parts of this and Farkas

01:26:36.310 --> 01:26:38.330
will not be investigated why because he's

01:26:38.330 --> 01:26:40.270
the money behind a lot of the Kushner family

01:26:40.270 --> 01:26:42.470
business going back to Jared Kushner

01:26:42.470 --> 01:26:44.390
and how Kushner

01:26:44.390 --> 01:26:46.030
is often a front you know

01:26:46.030 --> 01:26:48.270
they use other people's money

01:26:48.270 --> 01:26:50.190
to buy the buildings they manage so they're

01:26:50.190 --> 01:26:51.490
completely dependent on

01:26:52.070 --> 01:26:54.010
you know people wealthier than them

01:26:54.010 --> 01:26:56.190
for the real estate business they conduct

01:26:56.190 --> 01:26:58.350
and one of those people is Andrew Farkas

01:26:58.350 --> 01:27:00.030
specifically his company C3

01:27:00.030 --> 01:27:01.590
Capital Management

01:27:02.610 --> 01:27:04.290
which there's emails now

01:27:04.290 --> 01:27:06.210
about Farkas trying to get Epstein involved

01:27:06.210 --> 01:27:08.330
with C3 Capital Management so

01:27:08.330 --> 01:27:10.230
you know this is something that I think is

01:27:10.230 --> 01:27:11.850
really significant

01:27:12.550 --> 01:27:14.410
and there's obviously a lot of connections

01:27:14.410 --> 01:27:16.130
I'm leaving out here so going back

01:27:16.130 --> 01:27:17.770
to you know the Obama

01:27:17.770 --> 01:27:20.050
Clinton ties to the USVI scandal

01:27:20.050 --> 01:27:22.170
and all of that well Andrew

01:27:22.170 --> 01:27:24.130
Farkas is intimately tied up with the Democratic

01:27:24.130 --> 01:27:26.290
Party and fundraising he's the whole reason

01:27:26.290 --> 01:27:28.390
Andrew Cuomo was ever anything

01:27:28.390 --> 01:27:30.050
ever after he left

01:27:30.050 --> 01:27:32.390
being head of the Department of Housing

01:27:32.390 --> 01:27:34.430
and Development under the Clinton Administration

01:27:34.430 --> 01:27:35.290
so

01:27:36.110 --> 01:27:38.630
Governor Mayor all of that Andrew Cuomo's

01:27:38.630 --> 01:27:39.470
money for that

01:27:39.470 --> 01:27:42.430
and several campaigns his campaign finance

01:27:42.430 --> 01:27:44.250
chairman was Andrew Farkas

01:27:45.090 --> 01:27:46.690
so you listen to Farkas

01:27:46.690 --> 01:27:47.870
it's not good for downs

01:27:48.390 --> 01:27:50.290
and it just underscores

01:27:50.290 --> 01:27:51.590
how this is a huge bipartisan

01:27:52.390 --> 01:27:52.750
issue

01:27:52.750 --> 01:27:56.470
The deep state or the unelected power structure

01:27:56.470 --> 01:27:58.370
the shadow government argument that's being

01:27:58.370 --> 01:28:00.310
ignored well you know I guess the

01:28:00.310 --> 01:28:02.150
Republicans blame the Democrats or however they want

01:28:02.150 --> 01:28:04.110
to frame this in a partisan way like that's what that looks

01:28:04.110 --> 01:28:06.010
like that never ending influence

01:28:06.010 --> 01:28:08.250
whichever side yeah and so

01:28:08.250 --> 01:28:09.870
one of the craziest part of this article

01:28:09.870 --> 01:28:12.270
it actually ties into a very

01:28:12.270 --> 01:28:14.090
forgotten about national security

01:28:14.090 --> 01:28:15.810
scandal that happened in the Bush administration

01:28:15.810 --> 01:28:18.170
because there were many of them but basically

01:28:18.170 --> 01:28:19.890
the Bush administration tried to give

01:28:19.890 --> 01:28:22.150
Dubai port world complete control over the

01:28:22.150 --> 01:28:23.590
biggest ports in the United States

01:28:24.090 --> 01:28:25.670
and it was supposed to be investigated

01:28:26.290 --> 01:28:26.970
or at least

01:28:26.970 --> 01:28:29.070
the federal government

01:28:29.070 --> 01:28:30.870
was supposed to conduct

01:28:30.870 --> 01:28:32.930
oversight investigations and top

01:28:32.930 --> 01:28:34.910
Bush officials waived them all secretly

01:28:34.910 --> 01:28:36.830
and one of them was the

01:28:36.830 --> 01:28:39.290
treasury secretary at the time John Snow

01:28:39.290 --> 01:28:40.890
who now works for Steve Feinberg

01:28:40.890 --> 01:28:42.530
who incidentally is

01:28:42.530 --> 01:28:44.870
number two at the Pentagon after Hexeth

01:28:44.870 --> 01:28:46.970
and I would argue is actually running the Pentagon

01:28:46.970 --> 01:28:48.610
not Piquet Seth it's the

01:28:48.610 --> 01:28:51.290
server is capital management guy Steve Feinberg

01:28:51.290 --> 01:28:52.870
who's deputy secretary

01:28:52.870 --> 01:28:54.830
of war he's the one actually

01:28:54.830 --> 01:28:57.390
running this he employs John Snow now

01:28:57.390 --> 01:28:58.850
and this

01:28:58.850 --> 01:29:01.110
story also significantly involves the Carlisle

01:29:01.110 --> 01:29:02.770
group and so in Epstein

01:29:02.770 --> 01:29:04.910
had a lot of ties to them and they have a lot of ties

01:29:04.910 --> 01:29:06.830
to the Bush family and also the bin Laden's

01:29:07.490 --> 01:29:08.670
and the bin Laden's business

01:29:08.670 --> 01:29:10.670
interests also intersect with the

01:29:10.670 --> 01:29:12.690
HUD fraud that was going on that I know Catherine

01:29:12.690 --> 01:29:14.810
Austin Fitz has talked a lot about but Farkas

01:29:14.810 --> 01:29:16.810
intimately involved in that crowd

01:29:16.810 --> 01:29:18.690
he made bank in the

01:29:18.690 --> 01:29:20.490
90s on HUD fraud

01:29:20.490 --> 01:29:22.950
and actually was involved in the

01:29:22.950 --> 01:29:25.230
effort to nuke Catherine's company

01:29:25.230 --> 01:29:27.230
Hamilton securities from removing fraud

01:29:27.230 --> 01:29:29.170
from HUD so this is the same

01:29:29.170 --> 01:29:30.990
crowd and it's it's the Bush Reagan

01:29:30.990 --> 01:29:33.090
crowd the Iran Contra crowd it makes

01:29:33.090 --> 01:29:34.170
perfect sense

01:29:34.670 --> 01:29:36.910
that he and Epstein would be swimming around each other

01:29:36.910 --> 01:29:38.450
but anyway while

01:29:38.450 --> 01:29:41.050
the negotiations with the Dubai port world and the

01:29:41.050 --> 01:29:42.650
Bush administration were going on

01:29:42.650 --> 01:29:44.930
Suleyam and Farkas were meeting with Epstein

01:29:44.930 --> 01:29:46.770
they are in the front row of the

01:29:46.770 --> 01:29:48.490
Victoria secret fashion show

01:29:48.490 --> 01:29:51.170
with Leslie Wexner Abigail Wexner

01:29:51.170 --> 01:29:52.310
and Jeffrey Epstein

01:29:52.310 --> 01:29:54.830
so they obviously met before then you don't have

01:29:54.830 --> 01:29:56.630
your first meeting in the front row of that

01:29:56.630 --> 01:29:59.090
they were invited to be the VIPs of that

01:29:59.090 --> 01:30:00.590
and you bet

01:30:00.590 --> 01:30:02.730
that they were discussing the most pressing thing

01:30:02.730 --> 01:30:04.950
on Ben Suleyam's mind at the time

01:30:04.950 --> 01:30:06.550
that DP world deal

01:30:06.550 --> 01:30:09.130
to take over US ports and there was a huge

01:30:09.130 --> 01:30:09.750
pushback

01:30:09.750 --> 01:30:12.430
from people in Congress yeah

01:30:13.050 --> 01:30:14.450
this picture is crazy

01:30:15.170 --> 01:30:16.730
there's Russell Simmons in the back

01:30:16.730 --> 01:30:18.470
who's part of the whole like Diddy

01:30:18.470 --> 01:30:19.590
Brett Ratner

01:30:19.590 --> 01:30:21.730
thing I don't know it's nuts

01:30:22.890 --> 01:30:25.050
but that's clearly not their first meeting

01:30:25.050 --> 01:30:26.530
this is November 2005

01:30:26.530 --> 01:30:28.310
so before this the earliest

01:30:28.310 --> 01:30:30.630
they were this report the earliest they were

01:30:30.630 --> 01:30:32.590
believed to have met was like over a year

01:30:32.590 --> 01:30:33.870
later in 2006

01:30:34.830 --> 01:30:36.570
but now they were meeting why the DP

01:30:36.570 --> 01:30:38.510
world stuff was actively going on and the

01:30:38.510 --> 01:30:40.490
Bush administration despite the protests of

01:30:40.490 --> 01:30:40.930
Congress

01:30:42.110 --> 01:30:44.550
because they were upset about it

01:30:44.550 --> 01:30:46.450
over 9-11 stuff because the 9-11

01:30:46.450 --> 01:30:48.070
Commission like linked financing

01:30:48.070 --> 01:30:50.130
for the attacks to

01:30:50.130 --> 01:30:52.190
the UAE and also Saudi Arabia

01:30:52.190 --> 01:30:53.130
right so

01:30:54.650 --> 01:30:56.090
so they were mad about

01:30:56.090 --> 01:30:58.670
ports being handed over to the UAE

01:30:58.670 --> 01:31:00.670
for that reason and this is not that many

01:31:00.670 --> 01:31:02.530
years after 9-11 so obviously

01:31:02.530 --> 01:31:04.350
you know the the pull of that

01:31:04.350 --> 01:31:06.030
event was still really strong

01:31:06.030 --> 01:31:08.270
for the American public and

01:31:08.270 --> 01:31:10.630
in Bush basically went in the

01:31:10.630 --> 01:31:12.450
face of that in the middle of the war on

01:31:12.450 --> 01:31:13.570
terror and was like

01:31:13.570 --> 01:31:15.810
no if you try and prevent this

01:31:15.810 --> 01:31:17.810
with legislation I will veto it

01:31:17.810 --> 01:31:19.730
I mean it went really far

01:31:19.730 --> 01:31:21.690
and the Bush administration tried really hard

01:31:21.690 --> 01:31:23.730
to protect this and one of the people

01:31:23.730 --> 01:31:25.410
that tried really hard to protect it

01:31:25.410 --> 01:31:27.330
it wasn't just George Bush himself

01:31:27.330 --> 01:31:28.770
it was Alberto Gonzalez

01:31:28.770 --> 01:31:31.750
the Attorney General at the time

01:31:31.750 --> 01:31:33.430
and according to Nick Bryant

01:31:33.430 --> 01:31:35.410
the only people that could have told

01:31:36.650 --> 01:31:37.750
Alex Acosta

01:31:37.750 --> 01:31:38.970
and and

01:31:39.490 --> 01:31:41.730
you know the people prosecuting Epstein in Florida

01:31:41.730 --> 01:31:44.090
in 2006-2007

01:31:44.870 --> 01:31:45.730
for the sex

01:31:45.730 --> 01:31:47.610
trafficking and in his involvement

01:31:47.610 --> 01:31:49.230
you know with minors

01:31:49.230 --> 01:31:51.530
the reason he was told to stand down

01:31:51.530 --> 01:31:53.410
could have only been or the only person

01:31:53.410 --> 01:31:55.790
per Nick Bryant that can tell a US

01:31:55.790 --> 01:31:57.910
attorney a district attorney to stand down

01:31:57.910 --> 01:31:59.990
is the Attorney General or the president

01:31:59.990 --> 01:32:02.250
so it was one of those two people

01:32:02.250 --> 01:32:03.490
and having Epstein

01:32:04.410 --> 01:32:06.290
involved in the circles around this deal

01:32:06.290 --> 01:32:08.110
advising these guys and he went on to

01:32:08.110 --> 01:32:09.930
advise them for many years I mean this is

01:32:09.930 --> 01:32:11.730
a very close relationship

01:32:11.730 --> 01:32:13.910
with Suleim and Farkas

01:32:13.910 --> 01:32:15.770
that may have had an influence

01:32:15.770 --> 01:32:18.050
actually to an extent

01:32:18.050 --> 01:32:19.870
on the decision not to prosecute Epstein

01:32:19.870 --> 01:32:21.590
and should absolutely be revisited

01:32:21.590 --> 01:32:23.910
and another angle that is all

01:32:23.910 --> 01:32:25.950
the Carlisle group connections because there's a lot

01:32:25.950 --> 01:32:28.050
of ties of the Carlisle

01:32:28.050 --> 01:32:29.710
group to all of these people

01:32:29.710 --> 01:32:31.950
in question it's been called the CIA

01:32:31.950 --> 01:32:33.490
of the business world

01:32:33.490 --> 01:32:35.730
David Rubenstein who runs it

01:32:35.730 --> 01:32:37.250
had ties to Epstein his wife

01:32:37.250 --> 01:32:39.270
for many years was very

01:32:39.270 --> 01:32:41.170
very close to Epstein and also to

01:32:41.170 --> 01:32:41.910
Colleen Maxwell

01:32:42.810 --> 01:32:44.970
so you know there's a lot to be said

01:32:44.970 --> 01:32:47.310
a lot to be said there

01:32:47.310 --> 01:32:49.310
so if you're interested in how

01:32:49.310 --> 01:32:51.130
Epstein may have intersected with the Bush

01:32:51.130 --> 01:32:53.430
administration you're interested

01:32:53.430 --> 01:32:55.290
in learning how Trump first got involved

01:32:55.290 --> 01:32:57.030
with the United Arab Emirates

01:32:57.030 --> 01:32:59.050
and with who which is actually pretty

01:32:59.050 --> 01:33:00.990
important because a lot of the big conflicts of

01:33:00.990 --> 01:33:02.470
interest that have popped up in the second

01:33:02.470 --> 01:33:05.250
administration have been around the UAE

01:33:05.250 --> 01:33:06.830
with like world liberty financial

01:33:06.830 --> 01:33:09.050
and some of those like obvious conflicts

01:33:09.050 --> 01:33:11.190
of interest there like they put a bunch

01:33:11.190 --> 01:33:13.050
of money into Trump family ventures

01:33:13.050 --> 01:33:15.170
or Wittkopf family ventures in the case

01:33:15.170 --> 01:33:16.310
of world liberty financial

01:33:16.810 --> 01:33:18.930
and then the UAE was allowed access

01:33:18.930 --> 01:33:20.750
to closely guarded AI chips

01:33:20.750 --> 01:33:22.730
you know it's an obvious I mean

01:33:22.730 --> 01:33:24.490
Trump is an obvious pay to play presidency

01:33:24.490 --> 01:33:26.650
and it's crazy because a lot of Trump voters were

01:33:26.650 --> 01:33:28.810
outraged at the pay to play of Hillary

01:33:28.810 --> 01:33:30.470
Clinton and the Clinton foundation

01:33:30.470 --> 01:33:32.510
but I guess this is fine

01:33:32.510 --> 01:33:34.170
even though it's probably

01:33:34.170 --> 01:33:36.410
I mean honestly more brazen than

01:33:36.410 --> 01:33:38.510
that even it's it's kind

01:33:38.510 --> 01:33:40.430
of nuts but yeah so this

01:33:40.430 --> 01:33:41.830
article goes into all of that

01:33:42.910 --> 01:33:44.470
and you know if you

01:33:44.470 --> 01:33:46.370
want to learn about the guy who's behind Andrew Cuomo

01:33:46.370 --> 01:33:48.410
who you may remember from the COVID era

01:33:48.410 --> 01:33:50.570
and all sorts of other things or the recent

01:33:50.570 --> 01:33:52.330
New York mayoral

01:33:52.330 --> 01:33:54.250
race you know

01:33:54.250 --> 01:33:56.490
this is the article for you but

01:33:56.490 --> 01:33:58.030
at the end of the day it shows that

01:33:58.690 --> 01:34:00.530
a lot of these logistics firms

01:34:00.530 --> 01:34:02.910
that are essential to moving cargo

01:34:02.910 --> 01:34:04.650
around the world and port

01:34:04.650 --> 01:34:05.270
security

01:34:06.430 --> 01:34:08.490
and how customs officers

01:34:08.490 --> 01:34:10.190
can very easily be corrupted

01:34:10.990 --> 01:34:12.330
by these people

01:34:12.930 --> 01:34:14.290
it's very clear that

01:34:14.290 --> 01:34:16.350
not only was Epstein utilizing

01:34:16.350 --> 01:34:18.670
a network like this but all the

01:34:18.670 --> 01:34:20.950
people in his network could have called on these guys

01:34:20.950 --> 01:34:23.130
via Epstein. That's what it seems like

01:34:23.130 --> 01:34:24.370
that this was sort of just a

01:34:24.370 --> 01:34:26.230
part as you've often always

01:34:26.230 --> 01:34:28.610
pointed out this was as you I think

01:34:28.610 --> 01:34:30.650
you said in this interview that he was just a part in this

01:34:30.650 --> 01:34:32.270
not some kind of leader that this is one

01:34:32.270 --> 01:34:34.090
larger network

01:34:34.090 --> 01:34:35.730
and then you know diplomatic community

01:34:35.730 --> 01:34:38.410
involved with that as well with the process there

01:34:38.410 --> 01:34:40.810
you know so much that that's just very clearly

01:34:40.810 --> 01:34:41.650
a the

01:34:42.630 --> 01:34:44.170
vessel or funnel

01:34:44.170 --> 01:34:46.170
for what they might be trafficking or using

01:34:46.170 --> 01:34:48.790
in any possible way or clandestine operations

01:34:48.790 --> 01:34:50.450
I mean anything like that so they can hide

01:34:50.450 --> 01:34:51.910
effectively anything with that setup.

01:34:52.430 --> 01:34:53.290
Yeah I mean they

01:34:54.070 --> 01:34:56.590
if they're able to control most of the marinas

01:34:56.590 --> 01:34:58.530
and you know in industrial

01:34:58.530 --> 01:35:00.590
ports in the world they can move anything

01:35:00.590 --> 01:35:02.710
anywhere and there's a lot of examples

01:35:02.710 --> 01:35:04.630
of Epstein very successfully doing that

01:35:04.630 --> 01:35:07.090
in the 80s and 90s particularly the 90s

01:35:07.090 --> 01:35:08.610
which very few people for

01:35:08.610 --> 01:35:09.810
some reason want to look into

01:35:10.430 --> 01:35:12.570
as it relates you know well a lot of the people

01:35:12.570 --> 01:35:14.630
that have popped up you know to

01:35:14.630 --> 01:35:16.430
talk about Epstein I have noted

01:35:16.430 --> 01:35:18.310
the you know the BCCI ties

01:35:18.310 --> 01:35:20.630
or the arms trafficking in the 80s ties

01:35:20.630 --> 01:35:22.250
but they're

01:35:22.250 --> 01:35:23.910
seemingly very uninterested

01:35:23.910 --> 01:35:25.730
in what he was trafficking

01:35:25.730 --> 01:35:28.170
in the 90s with the help of Leslie Wexner

01:35:28.170 --> 01:35:29.490
in southern air transport

01:35:30.230 --> 01:35:32.090
the CIA airline that moved

01:35:32.090 --> 01:35:33.670
to Columbus Ohio specifically

01:35:33.670 --> 01:35:35.510
for Leslie Wexner is the limited

01:35:36.490 --> 01:35:37.530
um anyway

01:35:37.530 --> 01:35:39.890
there's a you know a pulling of a punch there

01:35:39.890 --> 01:35:41.910
because if it connects to certain people

01:35:41.910 --> 01:35:43.890
Oh connects to Israel and connects

01:35:43.890 --> 01:35:45.770
to China so uh oh

01:35:46.650 --> 01:35:48.230
well I'll leave you with this one

01:35:48.230 --> 01:35:49.810
thought point since you know you

01:35:49.810 --> 01:35:51.370
brought this up and I think it's interestingly

01:35:51.370 --> 01:35:53.410
kind of makes it I do have to go in two

01:35:53.410 --> 01:35:54.710
minutes though so let's just

01:35:55.250 --> 01:35:57.330
Trump offers donors access to

01:35:57.330 --> 01:35:59.210
national security briefings that they're willing to

01:35:59.210 --> 01:36:01.530
basically pay their way in national

01:36:01.530 --> 01:36:03.630
security briefings we this country

01:36:03.630 --> 01:36:05.350
has been sold out to the highest bidder a long

01:36:05.350 --> 01:36:07.010
time ago yeah you can buy citizenship

01:36:07.530 --> 01:36:09.270
you you can be from any country

01:36:09.270 --> 01:36:11.290
in the world you can buy citizenship through his

01:36:11.290 --> 01:36:13.390
like gold visa thing that he's so proud

01:36:13.390 --> 01:36:14.350
of and then you can

01:36:15.230 --> 01:36:17.290
pay more money and get access

01:36:17.290 --> 01:36:19.130
to national security briefings

01:36:19.130 --> 01:36:19.810
insane

01:36:20.650 --> 01:36:23.090
well Whitney oh we're doing all this

01:36:23.090 --> 01:36:25.050
to stop China Ryan it's

01:36:25.050 --> 01:36:27.250
all of our freedoms and in all

01:36:27.250 --> 01:36:29.070
normal laws we have to

01:36:29.070 --> 01:36:31.070
suspend uh to

01:36:31.070 --> 01:36:32.170
stop those guys

01:36:32.910 --> 01:36:34.250
it's I mean it's just

01:36:35.010 --> 01:36:37.030
yeah I mean I think this has been

01:36:37.030 --> 01:36:38.630
clear today and I hope this can

01:36:39.130 --> 01:36:40.930
build for people out there thank you Whitney

01:36:40.930 --> 01:36:43.150
hope we'll talk again soon and hope everybody's

01:36:43.150 --> 01:36:44.590
listening because this is still happening

01:36:44.990 --> 01:36:46.850
as any final words before we wrap up

01:36:46.850 --> 01:36:49.050
uh no just uh stay tuned

01:36:49.050 --> 01:36:50.490
for a lot of cool stuff this year from

01:36:50.490 --> 01:36:52.450
unlimited hangout new video shows

01:36:52.450 --> 01:36:55.110
uh new articles we'll have a new one

01:36:55.110 --> 01:36:56.630
coming out really soon about Leslie

01:36:56.630 --> 01:36:58.710
Wexner that is very spicy

01:36:58.710 --> 01:37:00.730
um and a new print

01:37:00.730 --> 01:37:03.130
magazine in a couple of months outstanding

01:37:03.810 --> 01:37:04.970
all right I don't know if you can

01:37:04.970 --> 01:37:06.750
see my thumbs up it was just the thumb

01:37:08.310 --> 01:37:09.070
well thank you

01:37:09.070 --> 01:37:10.530
for tuning in today as always everybody

01:37:10.530 --> 01:37:12.670
out there question everything come to

01:37:12.670 --> 01:37:14.270
your own conclusions stay vigilant