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02:33.540 --> 02:36.720 You feeling amped up like I am and ready for 2026? 02:37.280 --> 02:39.700 Yeah, man, I put my helmet on and my mouthpiece in 02:39.700 --> 02:41.660 and I'm running full force right into it. 02:43.320 --> 02:47.960 Well, we already have so many amazing guests lined up for this year. 02:48.080 --> 02:51.120 We've actually already booked until May. 02:52.120 --> 02:55.180 So, guys, trust me when I say if you haven't taken a moment 02:55.180 --> 02:58.260 to subscribe to this podcast, now is the time to do so. 02:58.260 --> 03:00.800 I don't want to spoil who our future guests are, 03:01.180 --> 03:05.340 but I have a feeling we'll be diving deep into geopolitical perspectives, 03:06.180 --> 03:10.260 the surveillance apparatus that continues to build a digital prison around us, 03:10.720 --> 03:11.880 and a lot more. 03:12.420 --> 03:15.120 So take a moment to make sure that you are subscribed 03:15.120 --> 03:17.780 and take a moment to rate and review the show as well, free thinkers. 03:18.140 --> 03:19.420 It definitely really helps us out. 03:20.460 --> 03:24.740 But alas, we are back and we are super excited to welcome back a guest. 03:24.940 --> 03:27.360 We've had on the show three times before now 03:27.360 --> 03:30.060 and today will be his fourth appearance. 03:30.700 --> 03:33.520 And there's a reason why we continue to have him back on the show. 03:33.880 --> 03:35.400 His knowledge base is vast. 03:35.820 --> 03:39.120 He's continually involving and innovating within the Libby sphere. 03:39.760 --> 03:42.580 And today we have a few current and relevant topics 03:42.580 --> 03:47.640 that will catch you guys up to speed on how we can continue to go above, below 03:47.640 --> 03:49.900 and basically around the state, 03:50.300 --> 03:54.460 circumventing their levers of control that they're constantly placing around us. 03:54.460 --> 03:57.240 So our guest today is Mr. Aaron Day. 03:57.540 --> 03:58.280 He's an entrepreneur. 03:58.800 --> 03:59.400 He's an investor. 03:59.680 --> 04:01.760 He's an author and an innovator. 04:01.960 --> 04:06.160 He has 25 years of experience fighting the government overreach. 04:06.700 --> 04:10.780 And apparently he's also eyeing a run for the Senate in New Hampshire. 04:11.520 --> 04:13.460 So Aaron, welcome back to the show, my friend. 04:13.740 --> 04:15.360 Happy New Year and thanks for joining us. 04:15.760 --> 04:16.420 Happy New Year. 04:16.560 --> 04:18.120 Thank you both for having me back on. 04:18.960 --> 04:19.340 Yeah, man. 04:19.440 --> 04:19.700 Of course. 04:19.700 --> 04:23.440 Well, I did want to touch on a few topics today. 04:23.820 --> 04:25.120 Time allowing, of course. 04:25.760 --> 04:29.160 There's been a couple of big stories that hit the internet like a tidal wave 04:29.160 --> 04:31.960 over the past few days with Trump's, you know, 04:32.080 --> 04:33.880 Grand Theft Venezuela bombings. 04:34.400 --> 04:38.260 And of course, yesterday there's an ICE agent basically straight up 04:38.260 --> 04:39.820 executed a woman in Minneapolis. 04:40.380 --> 04:44.640 Those topics are definitely dominating the discourse online right now. 04:44.960 --> 04:46.920 Maybe we could get into them if we have some time. 04:46.920 --> 04:51.200 But I also want to talk about Roger Vier, privacy coins like Zano. 04:52.140 --> 04:56.000 And Matt actually specifically requested the medical tourism stuff, 04:56.100 --> 04:57.760 which I definitely want to talk about. 04:58.200 --> 05:02.180 But I do think it might be appropriate to jump into the Senate run 05:02.180 --> 05:03.180 conversation first. 05:03.700 --> 05:07.260 I know that you just announced a soft launch a couple of days ago. 05:07.960 --> 05:12.340 So perhaps we might be the first people you've talked to about this 05:12.340 --> 05:12.940 in an interview. 05:13.340 --> 05:14.400 But tell us everything, man. 05:14.540 --> 05:16.180 Like what motivated you to do this? 05:16.180 --> 05:18.600 What's your goal and doing so? 05:18.900 --> 05:22.160 Can we actually use a political machine to make real change? 05:23.080 --> 05:25.060 And yeah, tell our audience how you envision this path. 05:25.160 --> 05:26.700 We'll fan the flame of liberty. 05:27.520 --> 05:28.000 Sure. 05:28.120 --> 05:29.340 So yeah, this is my first interview. 05:29.800 --> 05:31.960 So this is the first time talking about this live. 05:32.100 --> 05:34.740 I do have a website at day2026.com, 05:34.820 --> 05:37.060 which I encourage people to look at because it is definitely 05:37.760 --> 05:40.780 over the top as far as political websites. 05:41.120 --> 05:44.840 It actually has a chat bot where you can interact with 250 hours 05:44.840 --> 05:45.620 of my podcast. 05:45.960 --> 05:47.900 I make 10 books available for free. 05:48.660 --> 05:52.840 I do an analysis of my competitors' votes with respect 05:52.840 --> 05:55.940 to technocracy, specifically respect to technocracy, 05:56.000 --> 05:59.400 because this is why I'm running is to raise awareness around 05:59.400 --> 06:00.660 technocracy. 06:01.400 --> 06:06.800 And in particular, John E. Sinunu is running as the Republican. 06:07.720 --> 06:12.080 And he is one of the true historical bad actors when it 06:12.080 --> 06:15.980 comes to technocracy and pushing the surveillance state. 06:16.140 --> 06:18.740 He was previously elected to the U.S. Senate, 06:18.980 --> 06:21.460 and while he was there, voted for the Patriot Act, 06:22.300 --> 06:25.800 voted for Real ID, and voted for TARP. 06:25.840 --> 06:28.440 In fact, he flipped his vote and ended up voting for TARP 06:28.440 --> 06:31.480 after first voting against it and then became the head 06:31.480 --> 06:34.200 of the committee afterwards to oversee it, 06:34.260 --> 06:38.800 then became the chair of the WEF financial working group 06:39.460 --> 06:41.420 related to his work on this. 06:41.980 --> 06:44.540 So if you look at this overall threat of technocracy 06:44.540 --> 06:48.000 and digital IDs and surveillance, this guy has been there. 06:48.200 --> 06:50.160 And then he lost a Senate race. 06:50.360 --> 06:53.780 He lost his reelection and then became a K Street lobbyist. 06:53.960 --> 06:58.460 So I thought that running would be an excellent opportunity 06:58.460 --> 07:02.960 to teach people about technocracy through the lens of, 07:03.040 --> 07:05.660 you know, both the Republican and Democrat party. 07:05.840 --> 07:07.160 I'm not going to fix anything. 07:07.160 --> 07:09.600 You know, me being elected isn't going to change anything. 07:09.840 --> 07:12.480 The whole thrust of my campaign is, 07:12.760 --> 07:14.560 I'm actually going to be going around doing workshops 07:14.560 --> 07:17.220 showing people how to exit the financial system, 07:17.380 --> 07:20.380 how to exit the dollar, how to exit the healthcare system. 07:21.060 --> 07:23.320 And, you know, my message is very simply, 07:23.900 --> 07:26.860 no one in Washington, D.C. is going to save us. 07:27.000 --> 07:30.380 Our rights don't come from government or from Washington, D.C. 07:31.040 --> 07:32.840 And then I'm going to just strategically show 07:32.840 --> 07:35.060 that there's no difference between the Republicans 07:35.060 --> 07:38.660 or the Democrats and people need to stop giving their free will 07:38.660 --> 07:40.720 away to politicians. 07:41.420 --> 07:43.760 Yeah, I like that approach. I like that strategy. 07:44.120 --> 07:47.500 It's kind of similar to, you know, what Ron Paul did basically, 07:47.840 --> 07:51.060 kind of used the platform to share the concepts 07:51.060 --> 07:53.700 and ideas of liberty to share the principles 07:53.700 --> 07:57.100 to get people in tune with some of the economic reality 07:57.100 --> 07:59.960 that was, you know, going to hit them square in the face, 08:00.040 --> 08:01.960 which we're obviously experiencing right now. 08:02.480 --> 08:06.160 But yeah, you're right, the site, it looks great to be honest, man. 08:06.280 --> 08:08.000 It might be slightly over the top. 08:08.200 --> 08:09.960 I don't, I don't, I mean, I don't know. 08:10.020 --> 08:12.100 There's memes already that you could download. 08:12.320 --> 08:13.900 I mean, there seems to be a lot of great things 08:13.900 --> 08:15.420 that you've put together with this. 08:15.800 --> 08:17.540 And I'm definitely excited, man. 08:17.660 --> 08:19.100 I'm excited to see where this goes. 08:19.680 --> 08:21.920 I'm excited to see, yeah, what kind of impact you could have. 08:22.040 --> 08:23.020 I mean, this is good. 08:23.120 --> 08:24.420 This is a good thing that you're in here. 08:24.580 --> 08:27.800 This is a good thing that you're fighting to make a splash 08:27.800 --> 08:31.060 in the campaign and hopefully redirect some of the votes 08:31.060 --> 08:32.360 towards your camp. 08:33.040 --> 08:36.620 I mentioned that I wanted to have you back on as well 08:36.620 --> 08:38.140 to talk about Roger Veer. 08:38.360 --> 08:40.460 So maybe we could just jump into that really quickly 08:40.460 --> 08:41.900 and in some what's going on 08:41.900 --> 08:44.520 with some of these other crypto innovators 08:44.520 --> 08:46.900 who have been targeted recently. 08:47.220 --> 08:49.660 Because I think it was December of 2024 08:49.660 --> 08:52.140 and we had you on and we spent a lot of time 08:52.140 --> 08:56.020 talking about Roger's case, the DOJ, the IRS, 08:56.780 --> 08:59.780 and basically the political persecution and lawfare 08:59.780 --> 09:03.400 and obviously now, more than a year later, 09:03.620 --> 09:05.220 Roger eventually cut a deal. 09:05.940 --> 09:08.500 He paid what a lot of people see as an extortion fee 09:08.500 --> 09:10.000 and he's finally walked free. 09:10.660 --> 09:13.200 But his release didn't really seem to slow anything down. 09:13.340 --> 09:15.340 I mean, since then we've seen Roman Storm 09:15.340 --> 09:16.840 drag through years of litigation 09:16.840 --> 09:18.980 and more recently, Kiana Rodriguez, 09:19.920 --> 09:21.100 I think that's how you say his name, 09:21.300 --> 09:22.920 the samurai wallet co-founder. 09:23.300 --> 09:26.480 He just turned himself in last month for prison. 09:26.480 --> 09:30.420 I mean, what do you think is going on here 09:30.420 --> 09:33.840 with the government focusing so heavily on developers 09:33.840 --> 09:35.460 and these infrastructure creators 09:35.460 --> 09:37.840 instead of some of the actual bad actors 09:37.840 --> 09:40.780 and what's motivating these prosecutions? 09:40.980 --> 09:42.240 I mean, the Trump administration 09:42.240 --> 09:44.320 has really tried to position themselves 09:44.320 --> 09:46.300 as this crypto friendly admin 09:46.300 --> 09:48.500 even appointing a crypto czar. 09:49.240 --> 09:51.540 Do you think this was all just kind of like a bigger play 09:51.540 --> 09:54.900 to usher in the stable coins for the technocratic agenda? 09:56.300 --> 09:57.640 Yeah, I think that, 09:57.720 --> 09:59.740 and this is part of the reason that I'm running as well. 09:59.840 --> 10:01.920 I would just, well, I've gone that topic really quickly. 10:02.080 --> 10:03.220 I'll say I've done this before. 10:03.460 --> 10:05.200 So I ran for Senate in 2016 10:05.940 --> 10:08.340 deliberately to cost Kelly Ayotte her seat 10:08.340 --> 10:09.540 and I was successful. 10:09.740 --> 10:11.140 I got 17,000 votes. 10:11.280 --> 10:12.580 She lost by a thousand 10:12.580 --> 10:15.540 and I was in a four-way race as an independent 10:15.540 --> 10:16.900 where there was also a libertarian. 10:17.080 --> 10:21.300 So it's widely understood that this strategy works. 10:22.460 --> 10:26.280 And so I think that part of my frustration 10:26.280 --> 10:28.200 as you know, having me on in the past, 10:28.320 --> 10:29.260 I've spent the last three years 10:29.260 --> 10:30.900 trying to warn people about technocracy, 10:31.040 --> 10:33.840 starting with CBDCs and then expanding out further. 10:34.360 --> 10:37.120 One of the things that has been the most frustrating for me 10:37.680 --> 10:38.920 is I have a lot of people like, 10:39.040 --> 10:40.580 oh man, you must be really excited. 10:40.840 --> 10:44.600 Trump signed an executive order and banning CBDCs 10:44.600 --> 10:46.040 and so congratulations. 10:46.820 --> 10:48.400 I would get a bunch of this stuff 10:48.400 --> 10:48.880 and I'm like, 10:48.880 --> 10:52.080 the problem is that it turns out in this last election 10:52.080 --> 10:53.280 what was actually on the ballot 10:53.820 --> 10:55.780 was technocracy without resistance 10:55.780 --> 10:58.520 or technocracy with resistance 10:58.520 --> 11:00.740 and technocracy without resistance won 11:00.740 --> 11:02.420 and people don't even know it. 11:02.820 --> 11:05.340 The same people that were complaining about 11:05.340 --> 11:08.280 Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates and the WEF 11:08.280 --> 11:12.640 voted for Trump and then accepted Real ID 11:12.640 --> 11:15.800 then supported without understanding it 11:15.800 --> 11:18.780 the Genius Act which is a backdoor CBDC 11:18.780 --> 11:22.700 which makes stable coins essentially a CBDC at scale. 11:23.860 --> 11:27.040 And now we have Palantir accelerating with AI surveillance. 11:27.340 --> 11:30.740 So we essentially have, I view that since the election 11:31.480 --> 11:33.820 technocracies accelerated by five years 11:33.820 --> 11:36.300 and again with no resistance. 11:36.600 --> 11:37.720 And so on that front 11:37.720 --> 11:39.720 one of the other things that's been frustrating 11:39.720 --> 11:42.800 is Trump in addition to saying no CBDCs 11:42.800 --> 11:46.360 he's declared that the war on crypto is over. 11:47.160 --> 11:51.960 Well, yeah, if you did a Ponzi scheme 11:51.960 --> 11:55.020 or did a token sale, yeah, you're free 11:55.020 --> 11:58.900 but any of the people that actually built technology 11:58.900 --> 12:01.780 or promoted the use of cryptocurrency 12:01.780 --> 12:05.920 as an end run around central banks 12:05.920 --> 12:08.600 and as a way to promote freedom and privacy around the world 12:08.600 --> 12:11.160 all of those people are still being targeted. 12:11.160 --> 12:13.160 So on the one hand you have the propaganda 12:13.160 --> 12:16.560 and the message that says the war on crypto is over 12:16.560 --> 12:18.960 but the war on the important elements 12:18.960 --> 12:23.160 the freedom producing aspects of crypto is still ongoing 12:23.160 --> 12:26.800 and most people don't know enough to know the difference 12:26.800 --> 12:28.880 because it requires digging into it 12:28.880 --> 12:32.620 and it requires nuance, it goes unchecked. 12:32.620 --> 12:35.320 And so that's essentially what's happened 12:35.320 --> 12:38.000 part of what I've said this before 12:38.000 --> 12:39.720 I've been radicalized kind of three times 12:39.720 --> 12:42.240 the third time I will go through the other two 12:42.240 --> 12:43.660 but the third time I was radicalized 12:43.660 --> 12:46.000 was Ian Freeman's sentencing hearing. 12:46.720 --> 12:48.760 Ian kind of kicked this whole thing off 12:48.760 --> 12:51.440 he's the OG of political persecution 12:51.440 --> 12:56.260 as a successful person promoting cryptocurrency 12:56.260 --> 12:57.880 since 2010. 12:58.780 --> 13:01.680 So if your audience isn't familiar with Ian Freeman 13:01.680 --> 13:04.880 Ian introduced Roger Veer to Bitcoin. 13:04.880 --> 13:09.320 He had free talk live free talk live still exists 13:09.320 --> 13:12.620 it's a nationally syndicated radio show 13:12.620 --> 13:14.400 that he and his business partner Mark Edge 13:14.400 --> 13:15.900 have been working on for a couple of decades 13:15.900 --> 13:18.660 and he first talked about Bitcoin 13:18.660 --> 13:21.700 I believe in October of 2010 13:21.700 --> 13:23.380 that's where Roger heard about it. 13:23.600 --> 13:25.980 And so Ian has been promoting 13:26.620 --> 13:30.660 he promoted Bitcoin.not bombs early in the day 13:30.660 --> 13:34.120 he promoted merchants signing up to accept cryptocurrency 13:34.120 --> 13:37.820 he got involved with cryptocurrency ATMs 13:37.820 --> 13:40.400 and he was targeted by the federal government 13:40.400 --> 13:43.480 five different branches of the federal government 13:43.480 --> 13:45.760 were involved in taking him down 13:45.760 --> 13:48.120 he was clearly a political target 13:48.840 --> 13:50.300 and that's saying 13:50.300 --> 13:51.780 show me the man I'll show you the crime 13:51.780 --> 13:55.160 that's essentially exactly what happened with Ian 13:55.160 --> 13:56.800 they tried to entrap him 13:56.800 --> 13:59.600 I mean Ian went so far as to get an opinion letter 14:00.120 --> 14:02.620 from a lawyer stating that it was legal for him 14:02.620 --> 14:04.840 to sell Bitcoin without a license 14:04.840 --> 14:08.660 based on the understanding of the law at the time 14:08.660 --> 14:11.660 and so Ian right now sits in a federal prison 14:11.660 --> 14:12.760 for eight years 14:13.580 --> 14:16.000 for after all of the charges and everything 14:16.000 --> 14:18.300 the ones that were dropped and so on and so forth 14:18.300 --> 14:19.220 that the judge dismissed 14:19.220 --> 14:23.540 he's in there for conspiracy to commit money laundering 14:23.540 --> 14:26.260 which by the way and I've dealt with this myself 14:27.020 --> 14:28.840 conspiracy is what they charge you with 14:28.840 --> 14:30.080 when you haven't done anything wrong 14:30.740 --> 14:31.900 and they want you 14:31.900 --> 14:34.860 and they basically want to use the state to stop you 14:34.860 --> 14:37.380 from whatever your legal activity is 14:37.380 --> 14:40.080 that's effectively the way I look at conspiracy 14:40.080 --> 14:41.200 so that really 14:41.960 --> 14:43.840 when I saw that Ian was being targeted 14:43.840 --> 14:45.340 I looked at this and I'm like why 14:46.020 --> 14:47.880 why are these people that are at the intersection 14:47.880 --> 14:51.060 of crypto and liberty specifically being targeted 14:51.560 --> 14:55.580 that's where I understood the full breadth 14:55.580 --> 14:57.320 of what was at the time 14:57.320 --> 15:00.640 President Biden's executive order 14067 15:00.640 --> 15:03.880 which formally authorized the U.S. 15:03.900 --> 15:05.180 to pursue a CBDC 15:05.180 --> 15:08.500 but then also authorized the complete 15:08.500 --> 15:10.740 whole of government crackdown on crypto 15:11.320 --> 15:14.480 so so Ian was a test case for this 15:14.480 --> 15:15.880 but he's still sitting in 15:15.880 --> 15:18.940 he's still sitting in prison and then Roger came after that 15:18.940 --> 15:20.600 and then now we have all of these 15:20.600 --> 15:22.980 developers of open source 15:22.980 --> 15:25.520 software that you know like 15:25.520 --> 15:28.200 people like Roman Storm and Keone Rodriguez 15:28.200 --> 15:29.360 the samurai 15:30.380 --> 15:32.020 also William Hill 15:32.020 --> 15:34.240 who's in prison for four years 15:34.240 --> 15:36.340 Rodriguez is in prison for five years 15:36.340 --> 15:39.060 Roman Storm is looking at five years in prison 15:39.060 --> 15:40.600 these are all people 15:40.600 --> 15:42.820 that actually had opinion letters 15:42.820 --> 15:44.460 got information in advance 15:44.460 --> 15:47.620 got clearance in advance stating that what they were doing was legal 15:47.620 --> 15:50.180 did what they did and then were persecuted anyway 15:50.180 --> 15:52.820 and despite this end of war on crypto 15:53.360 --> 15:55.080 they remain in a cage 15:55.080 --> 15:56.240 or about to be in the cage 15:56.660 --> 15:57.840 in the case of Roman Storm 15:58.680 --> 16:00.360 yeah it's wild man 16:00.360 --> 16:02.520 I mean it's amazing 16:02.520 --> 16:04.300 that Roger Ver was finally freed 16:04.820 --> 16:06.020 but like Jason said 16:06.620 --> 16:08.700 I mean we're super happy he's not in a cage 16:08.700 --> 16:09.420 but it was ransom 16:09.420 --> 16:12.460 they extorted him for $50 million 16:13.300 --> 16:14.740 and it kind of highlights 16:14.740 --> 16:16.580 a terrifying reality for all the other people 16:16.580 --> 16:18.340 we were just talking about like Ian Freeman 16:19.000 --> 16:20.280 like you just said he's sitting 16:20.280 --> 16:22.580 in a federal prison for eight years 16:22.580 --> 16:25.120 for basically just helping people sell Bitcoin 16:25.860 --> 16:27.320 and Roman Storm 16:27.320 --> 16:29.460 you know he's facing I think close to a decade 16:29.460 --> 16:31.380 for just writing open source code 16:31.380 --> 16:34.640 and there's another guy that we talk about a lot too 16:34.640 --> 16:35.440 is Dexter Taylor 16:35.440 --> 16:37.120 he's serving ten years right now 16:37.120 --> 16:40.140 and he for a crime 16:40.140 --> 16:41.800 of being a gunsmith in his own home 16:41.800 --> 16:43.320 he wasn't selling any of that 16:43.320 --> 16:46.900 he just went against the state's control 16:46.900 --> 16:48.420 like all these other guys 16:48.420 --> 16:50.700 and they don't like that so they come after him 16:50.700 --> 16:52.480 so none of these guys 16:52.480 --> 16:54.680 have Roger's resources to be able to do 16:54.680 --> 16:56.720 what he was able to do like a king's ransom 16:56.720 --> 16:57.480 and get out of it 16:57.480 --> 17:00.120 so what's the strategy for them 17:00.120 --> 17:01.900 beyond just raising awareness 17:02.220 --> 17:04.420 what infrastructure should we try to be building 17:04.420 --> 17:05.200 for these guys 17:05.200 --> 17:07.940 I mean during notification 17:09.080 --> 17:10.520 or education on that 17:10.520 --> 17:11.900 or legal defense DAOs 17:11.900 --> 17:14.420 or privacy networks to protect our people 17:14.420 --> 17:15.580 when the state comes for them 17:15.580 --> 17:17.120 you know and like to 17:17.800 --> 17:18.940 build something like that 17:18.940 --> 17:20.520 what can we do to prevent another 17:21.360 --> 17:22.740 storm or another Freeman 17:22.740 --> 17:23.940 or another Dexter Taylor 17:23.940 --> 17:25.660 or even another Roger Vair 17:25.660 --> 17:26.700 what can we do to do that 17:27.260 --> 17:29.020 there are several things on that 17:29.020 --> 17:30.760 one thing I want to say about Roger's case 17:30.760 --> 17:32.280 is that you know while 17:32.280 --> 17:35.440 I spent a lot of time raising awareness on Roger's case 17:36.660 --> 17:37.920 while he's free 17:37.920 --> 17:39.520 he can't talk 17:39.520 --> 17:42.120 he essentially has a gag order on him for three years 17:42.120 --> 17:43.640 you know if he says anything 17:43.640 --> 17:45.100 from what I read in the documents 17:45.100 --> 17:47.540 if he does anything wrong beyond a parking ticket 17:47.540 --> 17:48.780 his deal is nullified 17:49.720 --> 17:52.220 and my whole point from the very beginning 17:52.220 --> 17:54.080 is that my belief is that Roger's 17:54.080 --> 17:55.180 thing was never about taxes 17:55.180 --> 17:57.340 Roger's thing was about suppressing him 17:57.340 --> 17:59.380 from action and from speaking 18:00.100 --> 18:02.060 right he was arrested 18:02.060 --> 18:04.160 just a few weeks after publishing 18:04.160 --> 18:05.360 hijacking Bitcoin 18:05.360 --> 18:08.140 and so now his voice is still not 18:08.140 --> 18:09.700 in the public domain 18:09.700 --> 18:11.160 so as governments around the world 18:11.160 --> 18:13.740 and as the US is pursuing a strategic Bitcoin 18:13.740 --> 18:14.880 strategic reserve 18:14.880 --> 18:17.060 and now you have BlackRock and all these other people 18:17.060 --> 18:19.540 and banks starting to start ETFs 18:19.540 --> 18:20.140 and so forth 18:20.740 --> 18:23.400 people don't know the story of hijacking Bitcoin 18:23.400 --> 18:25.220 and they continue to not know 18:25.220 --> 18:27.280 about the story of hijacking Bitcoin 18:27.280 --> 18:29.400 you know other than for a few of us 18:29.400 --> 18:31.500 that talk about it but we don't have the voice 18:31.500 --> 18:33.420 that Roger has 18:33.420 --> 18:35.660 on this issue if it were Roger speaking about it 18:35.660 --> 18:37.140 you know a hundred times 18:37.140 --> 18:38.700 a thousand times more people would know 18:38.700 --> 18:40.640 what's going on would be informed 18:40.640 --> 18:42.680 and so to me that is actually 18:42.680 --> 18:44.440 that's really what they wanted 18:44.440 --> 18:46.560 they wanted his silence they didn't need 18:46.560 --> 18:47.260 the $50 million 18:48.260 --> 18:50.960 they need Roger not talking about 18:50.960 --> 18:53.060 the fact that Bitcoin was 18:53.060 --> 18:55.300 about peer-to-peer digital cash and that we need 18:55.300 --> 18:57.060 peer-to-peer digital cash 18:57.060 --> 18:59.140 that can't be stopped by central banks 18:59.140 --> 19:01.240 and that can't be stopped by government 19:01.240 --> 19:02.820 that remains what 19:02.820 --> 19:04.360 we need and that would have been 19:04.360 --> 19:06.540 the message he would have been putting forward publicly 19:06.540 --> 19:08.160 but he's not 19:08.160 --> 19:10.180 and he can't and that's so 19:11.100 --> 19:12.080 so in some ways 19:12.080 --> 19:13.780 I wish 19:14.560 --> 19:16.100 Roger would receive a part 19:16.100 --> 19:17.620 I think Roger deserves a part 19:17.620 --> 19:18.880 I've said that from the very beginning 19:18.880 --> 19:22.540 not just a fine with respect to the rest of this 19:22.540 --> 19:23.660 I will say 19:24.360 --> 19:26.280 I do think that Angel McCartle 19:26.280 --> 19:27.660 it's controversial 19:28.240 --> 19:29.600 on the voting front 19:29.600 --> 19:31.940 I think Angel was instrumental 19:31.940 --> 19:33.700 in helping Roger 19:33.700 --> 19:35.060 and Ross 19:35.620 --> 19:37.020 and I think that 19:37.780 --> 19:40.220 one thing that I hope happens out of this election 19:40.220 --> 19:42.000 not just with my race 19:42.000 --> 19:43.160 perhaps other races 19:43.160 --> 19:44.400 around the country 19:44.400 --> 19:47.520 remember Ross is free because of political leverage 19:47.520 --> 19:48.940 Trump needed votes 19:48.940 --> 19:51.800 well the Republicans are in a situation right now 19:51.800 --> 19:54.300 where they've already essentially lost the house 19:54.300 --> 19:55.320 and now 19:55.320 --> 19:57.360 the US Senate is in jeopardy 19:57.940 --> 19:59.580 and so again 19:59.580 --> 20:01.140 I would never 20:01.140 --> 20:02.760 we're not going to fix things through voting 20:02.760 --> 20:05.480 people should not put their faith in the system 20:05.480 --> 20:07.200 but the model of using 20:07.200 --> 20:09.760 a almost 50-50 divided 20:09.760 --> 20:10.260 country 20:11.000 --> 20:13.040 and being a third party 20:13.040 --> 20:15.460 and having the potential to use that leverage 20:15.460 --> 20:17.680 to get our political prisoners 20:18.580 --> 20:19.100 pardoned 20:19.100 --> 20:21.360 is I think a worthy strategy 20:22.000 --> 20:22.520 so 20:23.100 --> 20:25.080 I think that that's one thing that's going on 20:25.080 --> 20:27.000 I think that's one thing that we can continue to do 20:27.000 --> 20:29.300 and one part of my campaign is going to be 20:29.300 --> 20:29.900 to say 20:30.360 --> 20:32.660 because I talked to Trump supporters here in New Hampshire 20:32.660 --> 20:33.980 and they don't know any of this 20:33.980 --> 20:36.640 they truly don't understand the nuance 20:36.640 --> 20:38.560 of what's going on with crypto 20:38.560 --> 20:40.460 they don't know who any of these people are 20:40.460 --> 20:41.380 they've never heard of Roman 20:41.380 --> 20:43.800 they've never heard of any of these cases 20:43.800 --> 20:45.860 they don't know what's going on 20:45.860 --> 20:47.420 so continuing to raise awareness 20:48.180 --> 20:50.240 about the situations themselves 20:51.020 --> 20:52.280 and do whatever we can 20:52.280 --> 20:54.740 I mean I know most of these prisoners 20:54.740 --> 20:56.820 like go to freeennow.org 20:57.320 --> 20:58.520 in fact I really recommend 20:58.520 --> 21:00.260 I encourage people to do it 21:00.260 --> 21:01.260 to sign the petition 21:01.260 --> 21:03.460 these petitions helped but actually helped 21:03.460 --> 21:05.760 Ross had over 600,000 signatures 21:05.760 --> 21:07.420 that played a role 21:07.420 --> 21:10.480 so if we can show that there's public support 21:10.480 --> 21:12.300 and public outrage 21:12.300 --> 21:15.060 about the fact that we still have these crypto 21:15.060 --> 21:16.320 prisoners and 21:16.320 --> 21:18.480 these are actually people that 21:18.480 --> 21:20.480 attempted to comply with the law 21:20.480 --> 21:22.020 but what it is that they were trying to do 21:22.020 --> 21:23.660 was to protect our Fourth Amendment rights 21:23.660 --> 21:26.260 to protect our privacy they were writing open source code 21:26.260 --> 21:28.280 so showing our individual 21:28.280 --> 21:28.860 support 21:28.860 --> 21:32.160 in these petitions is one thing that we can do 21:32.160 --> 21:34.020 and then using the political process 21:34.020 --> 21:36.000 also to raise awareness is something 21:36.000 --> 21:37.700 that we can do and certainly 21:37.700 --> 21:39.420 you know I would never 21:40.120 --> 21:41.860 say no to trying to 21:41.860 --> 21:43.260 promote jury nullification 21:43.260 --> 21:46.320 I think we need to do all of the above 21:46.320 --> 21:48.020 but for me we should do everything that 21:48.020 --> 21:49.820 we can to not forget 21:49.820 --> 21:51.840 and to continue to promote these guys 21:51.840 --> 21:53.580 until they're free because if our 21:53.580 --> 21:55.960 you know if these people that stick their neck out 21:55.960 --> 21:57.900 to you know innovate 21:57.900 --> 22:00.160 to save our privacy if we don't defend them 22:00.160 --> 22:02.320 then we don't have a lot of hope 22:02.980 --> 22:03.540 yeah 22:03.540 --> 22:05.980 there's certainly the underdogs in the situation 22:05.980 --> 22:07.760 and I think that's a great reminder Aaron 22:07.760 --> 22:09.700 because as much as 22:09.700 --> 22:11.780 I've also tried to 22:11.780 --> 22:14.040 create some awareness and my own 22:14.040 --> 22:15.700 personal tweets and stuff for 22:15.700 --> 22:18.280 people like Roger people like Ian Freeman 22:18.280 --> 22:20.600 Roman Storm it just doesn't seem 22:20.600 --> 22:22.360 like that's anywhere close to the 22:22.360 --> 22:24.280 mainstream sentiment right now people 22:24.280 --> 22:26.500 are not aware of what's going on 22:26.500 --> 22:28.260 they have no clue who these people are 22:28.260 --> 22:30.120 or their contributions of course 22:30.120 --> 22:32.080 but I think if a proper case 22:32.080 --> 22:34.200 is presented to them and shared 22:34.200 --> 22:36.040 with the full context of details 22:36.040 --> 22:37.900 they could definitely be on board and 22:37.900 --> 22:40.360 there is reason to continue 22:40.360 --> 22:42.140 amplifying their names 22:42.140 --> 22:44.680 their message so let's continue to do that 22:44.680 --> 22:46.740 speaking of which if you guys are 22:46.740 --> 22:48.820 interested in learning more about 22:48.820 --> 22:50.820 Ian Freeman's case I actually did have 22:50.820 --> 22:52.840 his free talk live host co-host 22:52.840 --> 22:54.820 on Mark Edge in 22:54.820 --> 22:56.940 June of this year so go back to our archives 22:56.940 --> 22:58.800 and listen to that interview 22:58.800 --> 23:00.840 and we really get into the details 23:00.840 --> 23:02.860 about his case what Ian's 23:02.860 --> 23:05.080 looking at I think he still has another five years or so 23:05.080 --> 23:06.820 left now I did 23:06.820 --> 23:09.180 have a scene we are on kind of the crypto 23:09.180 --> 23:11.100 topic here I know it's not 23:11.100 --> 23:12.900 maybe one of your most favorite 23:12.900 --> 23:14.940 topics Aaron I think you're probably more 23:14.940 --> 23:17.080 interested in like the freedom tech aspect of this 23:17.080 --> 23:18.900 but I kind of want to get into the crypto carnage 23:18.900 --> 23:20.780 that we've seen over the past couple months here 23:20.780 --> 23:22.800 and you know we watched Bitcoin slide 23:22.800 --> 23:24.760 from an all time high of 23:24.760 --> 23:26.620 you know 126 in October 23:26.620 --> 23:29.140 down to like 84,000 23:29.140 --> 23:30.920 a little over a month later 23:30.920 --> 23:32.140 in like mid-November 23:32.140 --> 23:34.580 and obviously crypto is always volatile 23:34.580 --> 23:36.640 but that kind of drop in such a short window 23:36.640 --> 23:38.520 is just on like a whole another level 23:38.520 --> 23:40.500 and it's not just Bitcoin of course 23:40.500 --> 23:42.240 it's the altcoins it's the small caps 23:42.240 --> 23:44.100 even privacy coins like Xano 23:44.100 --> 23:45.720 drop significantly and 23:45.990 --> 23:48.320 I think people are pointing out a few different factors here 23:48.320 --> 23:50.060 and even maybe like regulatory 23:50.060 --> 23:52.020 noise as possibly being 23:52.020 --> 23:53.780 one of the things causing this 23:53.780 --> 23:56.100 but it still feels like there's something bigger 23:56.100 --> 23:57.420 that's going on under the surface 23:58.130 --> 24:00.260 so I know you're not a huge fan of Bitcoin 24:00.920 --> 24:01.460 understandably 24:02.260 --> 24:04.160 what in your opinion is actually driving 24:04.160 --> 24:05.220 a swing in this dramatic 24:05.220 --> 24:08.340 up and down across the market 24:08.340 --> 24:09.440 here and you know it 24:09.440 --> 24:11.220 why did it even affect 24:11.220 --> 24:13.400 fundamentally strong privacy projects 24:13.400 --> 24:14.000 like Xano? 24:14.960 --> 24:17.480 I always look at it as 24:17.480 --> 24:19.480 why is Bitcoin not 24:19.480 --> 24:20.800 you know closer to zero 24:21.220 --> 24:23.880 if you actually think of it, what is it that's propping up Bitcoin? 24:24.400 --> 24:24.560 so 24:25.140 --> 24:27.020 what's propping up Bitcoin is 24:27.020 --> 24:29.180 Michael Saylor and 24:29.180 --> 24:31.520 the creation of Bitcoin Treasury companies 24:31.520 --> 24:33.340 and people advocating 24:33.340 --> 24:35.240 for the use of the force of the state 24:35.240 --> 24:36.520 either through taxes 24:36.520 --> 24:38.320 or actually through civil 24:38.320 --> 24:40.660 asset forfeiture to reduce the supply 24:40.660 --> 24:41.940 by confiscating it right 24:42.520 --> 24:43.960 so if you're 24:43.960 --> 24:45.760 if you're sitting there hoping that 24:46.340 --> 24:48.360 Bitcoin goes up in price at this point 24:48.360 --> 24:50.240 in time based on the market cap of 24:50.240 --> 24:52.340 Bitcoin then you're basically hoping for 24:52.340 --> 24:53.900 government and institutional action 24:54.800 --> 24:56.400 and so but with 24:56.400 --> 24:58.500 that said a lot the crypto markets are 24:58.500 --> 24:59.060 largely 25:00.100 --> 25:01.660 they're highly manipulated 25:01.660 --> 25:04.020 I mean so essentially 25:04.020 --> 25:05.380 you have a situation where 25:05.900 --> 25:07.980 you know people start getting liquidated 25:07.980 --> 25:09.440 for instance if somebody is 25:09.900 --> 25:11.960 using leverage or whatever and they're 25:11.960 --> 25:13.820 using you know they're 10x long 25:13.820 --> 25:15.520 on Bitcoin and they get wiped out 25:15.520 --> 25:17.860 it's going to impact that they might 25:17.860 --> 25:19.600 have their other holdings as collateral 25:19.600 --> 25:21.580 so this is one of the reasons that you see 25:22.480 --> 25:23.980 general swings that are 25:23.980 --> 25:25.960 kind of industry wide because you have a lot 25:25.960 --> 25:28.400 of a lot of this kind of 25:28.400 --> 25:30.220 of behavior that's going on 25:30.760 --> 25:31.880 for a while you know 25:31.880 --> 25:33.160 some of the privacy projects 25:33.880 --> 25:35.920 were actually outperforming there has been a little bit 25:35.920 --> 25:37.900 of an adjustment you know in 25:37.900 --> 25:39.260 the case of privacy coins 25:39.260 --> 25:41.820 I actually need to dig into a deeper 25:41.820 --> 25:43.480 dive I've been sidetracked with other things 25:43.480 --> 25:45.620 but I saw something yesterday that you use 25:45.620 --> 25:47.800 officially banned privacy coins 25:47.800 --> 25:49.300 and I guess the nuance is 25:50.460 --> 25:51.900 you can hold 25:51.900 --> 25:53.320 a privacy coin but if you 25:53.760 --> 25:55.360 promote a wallet 25:55.720 --> 25:57.120 that you know can 25:57.800 --> 25:59.660 accept and use privacy coins 25:59.660 --> 26:01.560 that that's illegal and I'm still trying to 26:01.560 --> 26:03.840 dig into all the details 26:03.840 --> 26:05.180 on that but historically 26:06.240 --> 26:07.520 Monero has done 26:07.520 --> 26:09.740 well when they've been booted off of exchanges 26:09.740 --> 26:11.800 or faced regulatory 26:12.520 --> 26:13.700 uncertainty I think 26:13.700 --> 26:15.940 that one of the big problems that we have right now 26:15.940 --> 26:17.500 in a large sense 26:17.500 --> 26:19.800 is that the public has a complete lack 26:19.800 --> 26:21.840 of understanding of cryptocurrency 26:21.840 --> 26:24.340 this is why things like the genius act 26:24.340 --> 26:26.220 and the clarity act have been able to 26:26.220 --> 26:27.880 either pass or almost 26:27.880 --> 26:30.280 you know cross the finish line with what they're now calling 26:30.280 --> 26:31.840 a market structure 26:31.840 --> 26:33.700 bill people are saying oh this is crypto 26:33.700 --> 26:35.940 people are adopting crypto and they're not realizing 26:35.940 --> 26:37.440 they're adopting a 26:38.440 --> 26:39.420 institutionally captured 26:39.420 --> 26:41.640 regulated form of it 26:41.640 --> 26:44.220 that many respects is worse than fiat currency 26:44.220 --> 26:45.940 itself because they're just seeing 26:45.940 --> 26:47.880 crypto in the title and not 26:47.880 --> 26:49.320 reading beyond 26:49.880 --> 26:51.840 the headlines so 26:51.840 --> 26:54.000 the other thing is I think you have to look at 26:54.000 --> 26:54.940 just from 26:54.940 --> 26:57.080 crypto currencies compete 26:57.080 --> 26:58.580 against other 26:58.580 --> 27:01.040 forms other currencies like 27:01.040 --> 27:03.300 gold and silver and gold and silver has had 27:03.300 --> 27:04.840 a tremendous run 27:04.840 --> 27:07.080 so I think one explanation might be 27:07.080 --> 27:08.160 that people are 27:09.020 --> 27:11.000 there's a lot of FOMO for gold and 27:11.000 --> 27:13.080 silver and that might be eating a bit 27:13.080 --> 27:14.960 into the crypto world 27:14.960 --> 27:16.520 as well so on the whole I would say 27:16.520 --> 27:18.340 it's a combination of 27:19.220 --> 27:19.820 regulatory 27:21.220 --> 27:22.420 regulatory uncertainty 27:23.520 --> 27:24.640 market dynamics 27:24.640 --> 27:25.300 and competition 27:25.300 --> 27:27.220 with precious metals 27:27.220 --> 27:30.360 and then just the fact that the crypto market 27:30.360 --> 27:32.240 itself is so interconnected 27:32.240 --> 27:33.580 in terms of 27:33.580 --> 27:35.100 when the whole market goes down 27:35.100 --> 27:38.080 just because of a lot of the way people are using 27:38.080 --> 27:39.720 margin and so forth 27:39.720 --> 27:41.900 and the way it's leveraged it tends to have 27:41.900 --> 27:44.060 a cascading effect on other assets 27:44.820 --> 27:45.380 yeah 27:45.380 --> 27:48.580 it does and we're watching that unfold in real time here 27:48.580 --> 27:50.360 and it's pretty crazy 27:50.360 --> 27:52.400 and it's sad that all these people are taking 27:52.400 --> 27:53.980 so much they're finding 27:53.980 --> 27:56.100 like a safe space in bitcoin and they're pouring 27:56.100 --> 27:57.840 a lot of money into that and it's 27:57.840 --> 28:00.100 we had Mark Goodman on 28:00.100 --> 28:02.360 recently and he brought up 28:02.360 --> 28:03.240 you know how they're using 28:03.240 --> 28:06.180 how the deep state I guess CIA is using 28:06.180 --> 28:07.620 bitcoin to kind of 28:07.620 --> 28:10.120 to print or print more money 28:10.120 --> 28:12.320 essentially you know to try to push 28:12.320 --> 28:14.880 the can down the road if you will for our national debt 28:14.880 --> 28:16.040 they're basically 28:16.040 --> 28:17.300 tokenizing debt 28:18.400 --> 28:19.860 and I'd never heard that before 28:19.860 --> 28:21.440 it was very interesting 28:21.440 --> 28:23.580 so if anybody's interested in listening to that 28:23.580 --> 28:24.640 and finding out how the 28:24.640 --> 28:26.560 they're using bitcoin to actually 28:27.160 --> 28:28.740 stave off the dollar collapse 28:29.380 --> 28:31.940 which is inevitable you can go listen to that episode 28:31.940 --> 28:33.520 but I want to pivot here 28:33.520 --> 28:35.540 for a second but keep that same energy 28:35.540 --> 28:37.500 you know like regarding Roger Barron crypto 28:37.500 --> 28:39.020 and Roman Storm and Ian Freeman 28:39.020 --> 28:41.300 you know we can clearly see how the 28:41.300 --> 28:43.440 state weaponizes the financial system 28:43.440 --> 28:44.540 to crust us in 28:44.540 --> 28:46.160 right we have to remember 28:46.160 --> 28:48.380 they don't just want to control your wallet 28:48.380 --> 28:50.480 they want to control like everything about you 28:50.480 --> 28:52.380 like down to your biology 28:52.380 --> 28:54.060 right I actually 28:54.060 --> 28:56.580 this morning I had a laugh when I saw 28:56.580 --> 28:58.180 you made a tweet Aaron 28:58.180 --> 29:00.360 about kind of the announcement 29:00.360 --> 29:02.460 you know everybody was cheering yesterday because 29:02.460 --> 29:04.900 RFK flipped the food pyramid over 29:04.900 --> 29:06.500 and you know 29:06.500 --> 29:08.420 and they're finally admitting that American 29:08.420 --> 29:10.060 kids need more protein 29:10.060 --> 29:11.740 and you 29:11.740 --> 29:13.780 you quoted that 29:13.780 --> 29:15.740 tweet saying American kids need less government 29:15.740 --> 29:17.460 and no public health death cope 29:17.460 --> 29:19.760 which is so true 29:19.760 --> 29:21.840 and that you know that really nails 29:21.840 --> 29:23.920 the conflict I'm feeling here like on one hand 29:23.920 --> 29:25.880 yeah RFK flipping the food 29:25.880 --> 29:27.620 pyramid to denounce seed oils 29:27.620 --> 29:29.200 and sugar and all that and bread 29:29.740 --> 29:31.240 and I mean that's 29:31.240 --> 29:33.060 objectively better than 29:33.740 --> 29:35.680 the poison they've been feeding us for 29:35.680 --> 29:38.060 for 50 years right I mean I think everybody 29:38.060 --> 29:39.660 can agree there but even 29:39.660 --> 29:41.820 if the guidelines are air quotes 29:41.820 --> 29:43.720 better we're still looking at a centralized 29:43.720 --> 29:45.520 authority in DC telling 29:45.520 --> 29:47.720 330 million people how to 29:47.720 --> 29:49.740 live and eat it feels like we're 29:49.740 --> 29:51.940 just cheering for like a benevolent 29:51.940 --> 29:53.740 dictator rather than dismantling 29:53.740 --> 29:55.380 the dictatorship and 29:55.380 --> 29:57.520 so connecting this back to 29:57.520 --> 29:59.600 you know where we were just now crypto like 29:59.600 --> 30:01.500 Bitcoin was exit ramp for 30:01.500 --> 30:03.780 finance and a long time ago 30:03.780 --> 30:05.560 now we have privacy coins like Zano 30:05.560 --> 30:07.740 I want to talk about 30:07.740 --> 30:09.780 the exit ramp for this centralized 30:09.780 --> 30:11.660 authority on our bodies 30:12.880 --> 30:13.920 and it's 30:13.920 --> 30:15.780 OSARA what you've been building 30:15.780 --> 30:17.540 here and is so is that the exit 30:17.540 --> 30:19.720 rent for health like how do we take this 30:19.720 --> 30:21.740 energy and stop asking 30:21.740 --> 30:23.560 the government for for better 30:23.560 --> 30:25.520 rules and instead build 30:25.520 --> 30:27.600 like a parallel system where we don't need 30:27.600 --> 30:29.660 their permission to be healthy in the first 30:29.660 --> 30:31.840 place well I certainly hope it's one 30:31.840 --> 30:33.640 of them but I would never want to say that 30:33.640 --> 30:35.700 I'm building a single solution 30:35.700 --> 30:37.740 to anything I didn't 30:37.740 --> 30:39.200 mean a phrase like that I'm not I'm not 30:39.200 --> 30:40.760 painted that as such 30:43.100 --> 30:44.680 but yeah I think that 30:45.760 --> 30:47.540 you raised there's a big 30:48.440 --> 30:50.080 conflict going on right now 30:50.080 --> 30:51.640 and I you know I've made 30:51.640 --> 30:53.620 this statement it's made a lot of people angry because a lot of 30:53.620 --> 30:55.460 people in my you know network are 30:55.460 --> 30:57.680 part of my heart now associated with 30:57.680 --> 30:59.900 it and and I've said that you can either have my heart 30:59.900 --> 31:01.800 you can have medical freedom you can't 31:01.800 --> 31:02.380 have both 31:02.980 --> 31:04.280 my heart is not 31:04.280 --> 31:05.960 medical freedom means 31:05.960 --> 31:08.620 you make your own decisions about your health 31:08.620 --> 31:10.280 not a different group 31:10.280 --> 31:12.540 of people come in and use the force 31:12.540 --> 31:14.440 of the state to push ideas that 31:14.440 --> 31:16.180 you might agree with and I think that's 31:16.180 --> 31:17.560 just a different way of saying exactly 31:18.160 --> 31:20.080 what you just said but it actually gets worse 31:20.080 --> 31:22.140 than that when you dig into it because 31:22.140 --> 31:23.820 RFK has been pushing 31:24.860 --> 31:26.300 wearables and if 31:26.300 --> 31:27.400 you end up replacing 31:28.260 --> 31:30.140 big pharma with big 31:30.140 --> 31:32.060 tech through government 31:32.060 --> 31:34.260 mandates that's actually not an improvement 31:34.260 --> 31:36.240 from a freedom perspective 31:36.240 --> 31:38.340 at all it's actually completely 31:38.340 --> 31:40.060 it's just a different group 31:40.060 --> 31:41.940 of people and that's and 31:41.940 --> 31:43.940 largely it turns out that's what 31:44.540 --> 31:46.180 RFK has been pushing it turns out he 31:46.180 --> 31:48.100 has a lot of investments and holdings and things 31:48.100 --> 31:50.060 and in a lot of different companies that 31:50.060 --> 31:52.160 people aren't aware of and so it is not 31:52.160 --> 31:54.000 medical freedom and so people 31:54.000 --> 31:56.060 don't want to hear that the 31:56.060 --> 31:58.180 answer to this though is so 31:58.180 --> 32:00.260 why I built OSR and OSR 32:00.260 --> 32:02.080 is one of six projects I've been working on 32:02.080 --> 32:04.120 for the last six months because here's 32:04.120 --> 32:06.060 the approach that I've been taking my view 32:06.060 --> 32:07.900 is and in part based on some of the 32:07.900 --> 32:09.820 information you guys have put out as well I did 32:09.820 --> 32:11.860 an episode on digital IDs 32:12.500 --> 32:14.260 and you guys broke some of the news 32:14.260 --> 32:15.440 on this as you guys know 32:16.620 --> 32:18.160 by 2027 over 32:18.160 --> 32:20.080 half of the globe is going to be under digital 32:20.080 --> 32:22.100 ID and the plan right now is for 32:22.100 --> 32:24.260 real ID to be digital in all 50 states 32:24.260 --> 32:26.080 by 2027 so we 32:26.080 --> 32:28.160 have essentially this year this isn't one 32:28.160 --> 32:30.080 of these oh things are going to get bad 32:30.080 --> 32:31.320 by 2030 32:31.900 --> 32:34.060 like the entire technocratic system is 32:34.060 --> 32:35.980 going to be in place by 2030 unless 32:35.980 --> 32:37.720 we start exiting and 32:37.720 --> 32:39.920 so OSR 32:39.920 --> 32:41.480 the first component of it 32:41.980 --> 32:43.980 is medical tourism and 32:43.980 --> 32:45.580 a lot of people aren't aware 32:45.580 --> 32:47.740 of exactly how big medical 32:47.740 --> 32:50.160 tourism is when I say 32:50.160 --> 32:52.200 medical tourism most people 32:52.200 --> 32:54.020 have the initial reaction of 32:54.020 --> 32:56.020 oh you're talking about cosmetic 32:56.020 --> 32:58.120 procedures you're talking about 32:58.120 --> 33:00.020 you know stuff that's cheaper but 33:00.020 --> 33:01.960 it's using third rate medical 33:01.960 --> 33:03.760 facilities with you know 33:03.760 --> 33:05.620 poorly trained doctors or people that 33:05.620 --> 33:07.100 flunked out of medical school or whatever 33:07.100 --> 33:08.380 this is the common 33:09.180 --> 33:11.560 perception of this the reality of this 33:11.560 --> 33:13.600 is the US healthcare 33:13.600 --> 33:15.800 system is a joke 33:15.800 --> 33:17.240 in terms of both 33:17.960 --> 33:19.680 quality of outcomes and price 33:19.680 --> 33:21.740 I mean I think it's a 5.6 33:21.740 --> 33:23.660 trillion dollars a year now is what we 33:23.660 --> 33:25.800 spend on healthcare we're ranked 33:25.800 --> 33:27.920 38th in outcomes 33:27.920 --> 33:29.300 so we have this 33:30.300 --> 33:31.860 massive gulf in fact 33:31.860 --> 33:33.740 I've argued that Americans are 33:33.740 --> 33:35.720 more propagandized than 33:35.720 --> 33:37.940 than any country on earth at this point 33:37.940 --> 33:39.760 in terms of the difference of where 33:39.760 --> 33:41.360 we think we are versus where we are 33:41.360 --> 33:43.800 in reality medical tourism 33:43.800 --> 33:44.520 has grown 33:44.520 --> 33:47.400 to a 100 billion dollar 33:47.400 --> 33:49.760 a year industry 33:49.760 --> 33:50.720 and 33:51.660 --> 33:53.440 we're not talking about just cosmetic 33:53.440 --> 33:55.480 surgery we're talking about complex 33:55.480 --> 33:57.620 heart bypass surgery we're talking about 33:57.620 --> 33:59.500 cancer treatment we're talking about 33:59.500 --> 34:01.700 types of treatment that you can get 34:01.700 --> 34:03.600 overseas that you can't even get in the 34:03.600 --> 34:05.360 United States because of the 34:05.360 --> 34:07.420 FDA regulatory process 34:07.420 --> 34:09.260 and the outcomes 34:09.260 --> 34:11.600 are better now if 34:11.600 --> 34:13.680 you shop for it right so the idea 34:13.680 --> 34:15.440 is you know we don't have 34:15.440 --> 34:17.360 anything remotely like 34:17.360 --> 34:19.380 a free market in healthcare here 34:19.380 --> 34:21.280 there's no aspect of how insurance works 34:21.280 --> 34:23.360 or how any of it works that is market 34:23.360 --> 34:23.760 based 34:25.060 --> 34:26.700 when you do have a real marketplace 34:27.200 --> 34:28.900 you'll find that things are 34:28.900 --> 34:31.060 about 80% less 34:31.060 --> 34:33.320 expensive overseas with 34:33.320 --> 34:34.920 better outcomes 34:34.920 --> 34:37.000 and we're talking about a situation where 34:37.000 --> 34:39.320 you can get a hip replaced in 34:39.320 --> 34:41.320 Thailand it turns out Thailand is actually 34:41.320 --> 34:43.500 the number one medical tourism 34:43.500 --> 34:45.640 destination in the 34:45.640 --> 34:47.740 world and the reason for this 34:47.740 --> 34:49.180 is that after the I think it was the late 34:49.180 --> 34:51.540 90s there was a big financial 34:51.540 --> 34:53.460 collapse currency crisis in Asia 34:53.460 --> 34:55.420 and Thailand made it a national 34:55.420 --> 34:57.160 priority to become 34:57.160 --> 34:59.740 a medical tourism destination for Asia 35:00.500 --> 35:01.060 and 35:01.560 --> 35:03.240 they've been successful at that and now it's 35:03.240 --> 35:05.320 actually expanded out so you can get 35:05.320 --> 35:07.400 in some cases same day 35:07.400 --> 35:09.620 care where in the United States 35:09.620 --> 35:11.440 it takes on average 27 plus 35:11.440 --> 35:12.980 days just to get an appointment 35:12.980 --> 35:14.460 with a specialist 35:15.240 --> 35:17.120 and when you look at the videos 35:17.120 --> 35:18.480 and the testimonials 35:18.980 --> 35:20.740 you know it's the differences it's like 35:20.740 --> 35:22.740 when you go to some of these destinations 35:22.740 --> 35:25.120 Turkey, Thailand, wherever it happens 35:25.120 --> 35:26.860 to be it's like being in the 35:26.860 --> 35:28.740 Jetsons versus being in the Flintstones 35:29.460 --> 35:31.100 here in the United States 35:31.100 --> 35:32.900 are actually more like kind of our 35:32.900 --> 35:34.300 hospitals are very similar to 35:34.840 --> 35:36.920 prisons which are very similar to public schools 35:36.920 --> 35:38.160 it's all the same aesthetic 35:38.800 --> 35:41.000 but you see these stories 35:41.000 --> 35:42.760 where you know you get 35:42.760 --> 35:44.900 two business class tickets for 35:44.900 --> 35:46.660 you and a partner to go to Thailand 35:46.660 --> 35:48.540 you get your hip replaced 35:48.540 --> 35:50.520 you get all of your medication 35:50.520 --> 35:52.480 you get all of your aftercare 35:52.480 --> 35:54.820 and you're basically a five star resort 35:54.820 --> 35:57.020 and it's 80% less expensive 35:57.020 --> 35:58.760 than the United States the cost of the 35:58.760 --> 36:00.600 entire medical treatment 36:00.600 --> 36:02.900 and recovery is equal 36:02.900 --> 36:04.560 to the cost of just the room 36:04.560 --> 36:06.920 at the Cleveland Clinic and so it's 36:06.920 --> 36:08.960 been fascinating for me so what we 36:08.960 --> 36:10.460 put together at the OSR site 36:11.220 --> 36:12.800 is a whole bunch of information 36:12.800 --> 36:14.980 I'm still refining it it'll be 36:14.980 --> 36:15.900 ready to go 36:16.640 --> 36:18.500 I'll be you know ready to push the plug 36:18.500 --> 36:19.940 and really actively promote it 36:20.520 --> 36:22.740 by the end of the month because I'm still working on some of the 36:22.740 --> 36:23.760 some of the aspects of it 36:24.260 --> 36:26.300 you're gonna be able to compare I have a database 36:26.880 --> 36:28.800 well first of all let me take a step back and say 36:29.260 --> 36:30.360 in the United States 36:30.360 --> 36:32.720 85% of hospitals don't disclose 36:32.720 --> 36:33.220 pricing 36:34.920 --> 36:36.860 and so this is one of these situations 36:36.860 --> 36:39.180 where it's a massive scam 36:39.180 --> 36:40.900 and I have this information on the website 36:40.900 --> 36:43.320 hospitals have what's called a charge master 36:43.320 --> 36:44.920 which is their list of prices 36:46.000 --> 36:46.540 and 36:46.540 --> 36:48.620 for a long time up until 2021 36:48.620 --> 36:50.800 it was illegal for a hospital to show 36:50.800 --> 36:53.200 their prices and then a law was passed 36:53.200 --> 36:55.220 that says you must show your prices 36:55.220 --> 36:56.980 but the caveat is 36:56.980 --> 36:59.280 unless you pay a $300 a day 36:59.280 --> 37:01.280 penalty so it turns out 85% 37:01.280 --> 37:02.000 of hospitals 37:02.860 --> 37:04.640 choose to pay a $300 a day 37:04.640 --> 37:05.080 penalty 37:05.640 --> 37:08.440 rather than disclose their prices and here's the reason why 37:08.440 --> 37:10.480 when you actually look at what the prices are 37:10.480 --> 37:11.900 you'll find things like 37:12.420 --> 37:13.580 they'll charge you $52 37:13.580 --> 37:15.920 for an aspirin that costs 10 cents 37:15.920 --> 37:18.120 we're talking about markups that are 10,000 37:18.120 --> 37:20.520 15,000% and you can't 37:20.520 --> 37:21.260 know in advance 37:21.260 --> 37:23.960 so you go into a hospital for a treatment 37:23.960 --> 37:26.340 and then you get the bill afterwards and you have no ability 37:26.340 --> 37:28.280 to complain 37:28.960 --> 37:29.840 or to 37:30.460 --> 37:32.220 actually contest the pricing 37:32.220 --> 37:33.720 as a result of this 37:33.720 --> 37:36.040 there are 540,000 37:36.040 --> 37:38.140 bankruptcies in the United States every year 37:38.140 --> 37:40.180 two thirds of those are due to 37:40.180 --> 37:41.500 medical bankruptcy 37:42.220 --> 37:43.960 and when you look at medical bankruptcy 37:43.960 --> 37:46.200 it's one person every minute 37:46.200 --> 37:48.400 in the US files for medical bankruptcy 37:49.140 --> 37:50.320 and these are not 37:50.320 --> 37:52.540 the uninsured 75% 37:52.540 --> 37:54.220 of those have health insurance 37:54.920 --> 37:56.120 77% 37:56.120 --> 37:57.280 of those are homeowners 37:58.060 --> 38:00.040 so your insurance because 38:00.040 --> 38:01.920 we're told all of these things 38:01.920 --> 38:03.780 while your insurance is there to protect you 38:03.780 --> 38:05.720 from catastrophic events 38:05.720 --> 38:07.080 it doesn't do that 38:07.080 --> 38:09.740 it objectively doesn't do that 38:09.740 --> 38:11.580 and so 38:11.580 --> 38:13.660 I lay out a lot of educational information 38:13.660 --> 38:15.640 on the site and I've been doing a lot of podcasts 38:15.640 --> 38:17.620 to try to explain to people how insurance works 38:17.620 --> 38:18.640 how the whole thing is a scam 38:18.640 --> 38:19.520 it's not a business 38:19.520 --> 38:23.640 but what we do 38:23.640 --> 38:25.180 is I've created a map 38:25.180 --> 38:26.720 and I have all of the data 38:26.720 --> 38:28.840 you can find out whether your hospital 38:29.560 --> 38:30.820 provides pricing or not 38:30.820 --> 38:33.320 and if it does provide pricing I have the pricing 38:33.320 --> 38:34.640 so you can actually 38:34.640 --> 38:36.800 compare what one of the 38:36.800 --> 38:39.000 15% of hospitals that disclose pricing 38:39.000 --> 38:40.340 charges for a procedure 38:40.340 --> 38:42.860 versus what actual medical tourism 38:42.860 --> 38:44.860 destinations charge for it 38:45.800 --> 38:46.780 so this is 38:46.780 --> 38:48.260 one part of 38:48.920 --> 38:50.820 OASARA but there are two other parts 38:50.820 --> 38:52.880 because I really want to figure out a way to kick start 38:52.880 --> 38:54.780 a revolution here I think people should 38:54.780 --> 38:56.820 do or consider doing three things 38:56.820 --> 38:58.720 one first form a 38:58.720 --> 38:59.640 medical trust 39:00.360 --> 39:02.340 so this bankruptcy situation 39:02.340 --> 39:04.860 is absurd people lose their homes 39:04.860 --> 39:06.660 because they have met with 39:06.660 --> 39:08.560 insurance because they have medical procedures 39:08.560 --> 39:11.400 where they're overcharged by hospitals who don't disclose pricing 39:11.400 --> 39:13.240 it's an absolute 39:13.240 --> 39:14.160 travesty 39:14.820 --> 39:15.840 and so 39:15.840 --> 39:17.980 one of the things that you know 39:17.980 --> 39:20.220 most wealthy people do it it's not 39:20.710 --> 39:22.440 confined it shouldn't be confined to wealthy people 39:22.440 --> 39:24.280 you can spend $50 or $100 39:24.280 --> 39:25.320 on legal zoom 39:25.320 --> 39:27.300 and create a medical trust 39:28.000 --> 39:30.300 and I've actually outlined all the different states 39:30.300 --> 39:32.540 and what the laws are and everything else because I will 39:32.540 --> 39:34.540 say on this just because you live in a state 39:34.540 --> 39:36.440 that has bad laws you can form a medical 39:36.440 --> 39:38.480 trust in another state it's kind of 39:38.480 --> 39:39.840 like how corporations 39:40.980 --> 39:42.380 historically have formed 39:42.380 --> 39:44.380 in Delaware because Delaware had 39:44.380 --> 39:46.120 better more business friendly 39:46.120 --> 39:48.380 laws well the same is true with medical 39:48.380 --> 39:49.920 trust you can go to South Dakota 39:50.880 --> 39:51.240 or 39:51.240 --> 39:53.560 you can go to Alaska or a state that has 39:53.560 --> 39:55.700 much more friendly laws and for $50 39:55.700 --> 39:57.780 or $100 you can protect your assets so that 39:57.780 --> 39:59.520 if this happens if you end up 39:59.520 --> 40:02.140 you know you get a hang nail and you go to the emergency room 40:02.140 --> 40:03.820 and you get a bill for $75,000 40:04.320 --> 40:05.540 you're not going to lose your house 40:05.540 --> 40:07.880 right you've protected your assets so I 40:07.880 --> 40:09.820 like I want to see a big movement of people 40:09.820 --> 40:11.320 that say you know what I'm not going to 40:12.120 --> 40:13.720 I'm not participating in the system 40:13.720 --> 40:15.500 I'm not going to lose all of my assets 40:16.180 --> 40:17.880 because of this absolutely scandalous 40:17.880 --> 40:20.040 system the next thing is cancel insurance 40:20.040 --> 40:21.520 I mean we've canceled our insurance 40:21.520 --> 40:23.420 it doesn't protect you 40:23.420 --> 40:25.660 in fact mostly now not only does it not 40:25.660 --> 40:27.340 protect you in catastrophic cases 40:27.880 --> 40:29.960 I'm a big fan of AI if it's used 40:29.960 --> 40:31.800 in a it's kind of like with crypto 40:31.800 --> 40:33.940 right I like privacy coins I don't like CBDCs 40:34.520 --> 40:35.760 I like AI when 40:35.760 --> 40:38.020 you are in control 40:38.020 --> 40:39.960 of it yourself control of the data 40:39.960 --> 40:41.960 I don't like it when it's 40:41.960 --> 40:43.880 centralized and pushed by 40:43.880 --> 40:46.020 you know governments and other entities 40:46.020 --> 40:48.000 well the way that united healthcare 40:48.720 --> 40:49.900 and large insurers 40:49.900 --> 40:52.000 are using AI is largely 40:52.000 --> 40:53.240 to deny claims 40:53.940 --> 40:55.540 pretty much in an automated fashion 40:55.540 --> 40:58.300 then if you appeal your claim being denied 40:58.300 --> 40:59.940 the AI is involved 40:59.940 --> 41:01.860 in the adjudication of that as well 41:01.860 --> 41:04.140 so there is already a class action 41:04.140 --> 41:05.920 lawsuit against united healthcare 41:05.920 --> 41:07.660 regarding this but 41:07.660 --> 41:09.800 for you maha people out there 41:09.800 --> 41:11.700 an important thing to understand is 41:11.700 --> 41:14.060 the government is the largest purchaser 41:14.060 --> 41:15.400 of healthcare services 41:15.400 --> 41:18.240 47% of all healthcare 41:18.240 --> 41:20.380 spending comes from the federal government 41:20.380 --> 41:22.300 through Medicare, Medicaid and the VA 41:22.300 --> 41:24.040 and at one point during COVID 41:24.040 --> 41:25.980 it actually crossed over the 50% 41:25.980 --> 41:26.800 line 41:26.800 --> 41:29.500 Medicare and Medicaid are going to start implementing 41:30.000 --> 41:31.940 AI starting next year 41:31.940 --> 41:33.620 and so you know 41:33.620 --> 41:36.200 how excited are you about your prospects 41:36.200 --> 41:37.840 for healthcare rationing when 41:37.840 --> 41:39.300 Palantir Health is involved 41:39.300 --> 41:41.020 working directly with the government 41:41.020 --> 41:43.080 this is the direction that we're going 41:43.080 --> 41:44.420 and we're going in a very 41:44.940 --> 41:46.280 in a very fast way 41:46.900 --> 41:48.160 so the point behind it is 41:48.160 --> 41:50.620 you can cancel your insurance 41:50.620 --> 41:52.400 and people are like well this is part of my employment 41:52.400 --> 41:54.300 but then when you talk to people 41:54.300 --> 41:56.860 it turns out they have these high deductible plans anyway 41:57.580 --> 41:58.780 where they end up paying 41:58.780 --> 42:00.580 the average I think family now 42:00.580 --> 42:03.020 pays $24,000 a year 42:03.540 --> 42:04.580 for health insurance 42:05.040 --> 42:06.880 and then you have these high deductible plans 42:06.880 --> 42:08.860 it's a complete ripoff and then when you have 42:08.860 --> 42:10.600 the catastrophic event happen it's not 42:10.600 --> 42:13.140 it's not there so form a medical trust 42:14.160 --> 42:15.100 exit insurance 42:15.100 --> 42:17.380 and then investigate medical tourism 42:17.380 --> 42:19.320 this is the first phase 42:19.320 --> 42:20.960 of what we're 42:20.960 --> 42:22.940 promoting at OSR the next phase is what 42:22.940 --> 42:24.580 I've been building myself 42:24.580 --> 42:26.800 which is I've taken my genome 42:26.800 --> 42:28.640 unfortunately I was stupid 42:28.640 --> 42:30.860 you know early on and actually signed up for 42:30.860 --> 42:32.940 23 in me so I can't 42:32.940 --> 42:34.320 I can't reverse that me too brother 42:34.860 --> 42:36.940 but I downloaded all of the raw data 42:36.940 --> 42:38.440 and I put it into a system 42:38.440 --> 42:40.640 and then I matched that against 42:40.640 --> 42:42.660 okay well what does my actual genome say 42:42.660 --> 42:44.660 not how 23 in me 42:44.660 --> 42:46.820 curates what it says what are my actual 42:46.820 --> 42:48.760 risk factors and then 42:48.760 --> 42:50.580 I've downloaded a whole bunch of other content where I'm like 42:50.580 --> 42:52.740 okay make recommendations I'm using Mike Adams 42:52.740 --> 42:54.380 Health Rangers AI 42:54.900 --> 42:57.080 so it's like okay I have this gene and this risk factor 42:57.080 --> 42:58.900 what are the non big pharma 42:58.900 --> 43:01.120 ways for me to treat this 43:01.120 --> 43:03.180 or you know what do I need to know 43:03.180 --> 43:04.940 about peptides the next 43:04.940 --> 43:05.640 wave of 43:06.380 --> 43:07.880 OSR is to create tools 43:07.880 --> 43:10.400 where you can download your own information 43:10.400 --> 43:12.880 your own labs your own genetic information 43:12.880 --> 43:14.000 host it locally 43:15.180 --> 43:17.020 and interact with that data 43:17.020 --> 43:19.160 on a personalized basis outside of the system 43:19.160 --> 43:20.400 so medical tourism 43:20.940 --> 43:22.900 it provides an alternative to 43:22.900 --> 43:24.800 being bankrupted with 43:24.800 --> 43:26.380 low quality care in the United States 43:26.380 --> 43:28.920 but if you really want to talk about empowering your health 43:28.920 --> 43:31.200 it's about helping people know about themselves 43:32.000 --> 43:33.080 and connect 43:33.080 --> 43:35.120 with personalized information well now 43:35.120 --> 43:37.160 with AI if you're using the right AI 43:37.160 --> 43:39.040 and the right data that's possible 43:39.040 --> 43:41.040 and so the next wave is going to be to 43:41.040 --> 43:42.640 make tools available 43:42.640 --> 43:44.640 that people can use but where the data 43:44.640 --> 43:45.980 is on their machine 43:46.480 --> 43:48.420 and kept private and then the next layer 43:48.420 --> 43:50.540 after that is to 43:50.860 --> 43:52.740 create tools that empower people to connect 43:52.740 --> 43:55.080 with one another because the truth of the matter is our healthcare 43:55.080 --> 43:56.720 system doesn't cure any disease 43:57.260 --> 43:58.940 Pfizer's never cured anybody 43:58.940 --> 44:01.160 of anything the medical system 44:01.160 --> 44:03.360 is not incentivized 44:03.360 --> 44:05.380 or designed to cure people 44:05.380 --> 44:06.940 so for a lot of situations 44:06.940 --> 44:09.160 people don't know what the best thing is to do 44:09.160 --> 44:11.160 and a lot of it is trial and error 44:11.160 --> 44:13.140 yourself and so if you can do that 44:13.140 --> 44:15.000 trial and error yourself and then share your results 44:15.000 --> 44:17.240 with others in a way that protects 44:17.240 --> 44:19.320 your privacy and is outside of the entire 44:19.320 --> 44:20.900 system that 44:20.900 --> 44:23.120 that combination that combination of being 44:23.120 --> 44:25.100 individually empowered with your own data being 44:25.100 --> 44:27.100 able to share and collaborate privately with 44:27.100 --> 44:29.060 others outside of the system and then having medical 44:29.060 --> 44:29.660 tourism 44:29.660 --> 44:32.740 as the backstop if you actually need care 44:32.740 --> 44:35.460 procedures this to me is one way 44:35.460 --> 44:37.060 we can kind of ignite 44:37.060 --> 44:39.360 a healthcare revolution and get people out of the system 44:39.360 --> 44:41.100 and out of these political oh 44:41.100 --> 44:42.960 well you know it's either Medicare 44:42.960 --> 44:44.920 for all or we're going to allow you to buy 44:44.920 --> 44:46.660 insurance across state lines 44:46.660 --> 44:48.440 those are not choices 44:49.060 --> 44:51.040 that's actually an absurd framing 44:51.040 --> 44:52.860 but it's a typical political 44:52.860 --> 44:54.660 type of framing for healthcare 44:54.660 --> 44:57.100 Wow Aaron this sounds like 44:57.100 --> 44:59.240 a great resource that you've given people 44:59.240 --> 45:00.960 a very powerful resource and yeah 45:00.960 --> 45:03.020 maybe even a blueprint or a path forward 45:03.020 --> 45:04.880 man because I mean I think we all 45:04.880 --> 45:07.020 kind of understand how much of a racket 45:07.020 --> 45:09.320 and a scam that modern healthcare has become 45:09.320 --> 45:10.580 you know modern-day healthcare 45:11.080 --> 45:13.140 and you know as much as I I guess I kind 45:13.140 --> 45:15.080 of like the idea of RFK Junior 45:15.080 --> 45:17.040 you know kind of leading the charge 45:17.040 --> 45:19.300 here I think you made an important distinction 45:19.300 --> 45:21.200 between Maha and medical freedom 45:21.200 --> 45:22.700 right and considering 45:22.700 --> 45:24.920 you know things like well the fact 45:24.920 --> 45:26.920 that RFK Junior vowed to ban fluoride 45:27.800 --> 45:29.200 yeah he wants the wearable 45:29.200 --> 45:30.720 on your wrist but they 45:30.720 --> 45:32.980 tapped the seed oil lobbyist 45:32.980 --> 45:34.380 for the USDA position 45:34.860 --> 45:36.940 the Trump officials want to move to reverse 45:36.940 --> 45:38.560 things like forever chemicals 45:39.440 --> 45:41.000 all these things kind of point 45:41.000 --> 45:42.840 to how limited he's going to be 45:42.840 --> 45:44.800 in his duties and that 45:44.800 --> 45:46.900 there is only so many options for what 45:46.900 --> 45:48.920 he could do and especially when it comes to the racket 45:48.920 --> 45:50.660 that's called healthcare you know I mean 45:50.660 --> 45:52.800 healthcare is one of those hot button 45:52.800 --> 45:54.740 topics that are like a lot lightning rod 45:54.740 --> 45:56.200 for controversy and it's really 45:56.680 --> 45:58.720 incredibly hard to talk about reform in this 45:58.720 --> 46:00.680 country around that subject 46:00.680 --> 46:02.600 and I know a lot of people do feel 46:02.600 --> 46:04.780 incredibly trapped in the medical system here 46:04.780 --> 46:06.440 I mean the costs the wait time 46:06.440 --> 46:08.500 the insurance games I mean 46:08.500 --> 46:10.780 you know I guess we shouldn't really be 46:10.780 --> 46:12.700 surprised when insurance industry insiders 46:12.700 --> 46:14.940 helped write Obama's Affordable Care Act 46:14.940 --> 46:16.700 bill what 15 years ago now 46:17.660 --> 46:18.780 and just 46:18.780 --> 46:20.860 really quick guys on this topic we actually 46:20.860 --> 46:22.920 this time last year had a very powerful 46:22.920 --> 46:24.040 conversation with 46:24.040 --> 46:26.780 gentleman named James Maskell he's a 46:26.780 --> 46:28.560 trailblazer in the world of functional 46:28.560 --> 46:30.420 and integrative medicine 46:30.420 --> 46:32.920 it was a really good episode we talked 46:32.920 --> 46:34.820 about a lot of different options to kind of 46:34.820 --> 46:35.940 reimagining healthcare 46:35.940 --> 46:38.760 that was actually the name of the title reimagining healthcare 46:38.760 --> 46:40.480 the cure that they don't want you to know 46:40.480 --> 46:42.860 and definitely we're checking out 46:42.860 --> 46:44.780 especially when we're talking about Palantir 46:44.780 --> 46:47.040 now being involved with almost every 46:47.040 --> 46:49.140 element of this and centralized databases 46:49.140 --> 46:51.180 I mean I just tweeted a couple days ago 46:51.180 --> 46:52.480 that now 46:53.140 --> 46:54.900 325,000 Californians 46:54.900 --> 46:57.080 are actually going to have to replace their real 46:57.080 --> 46:58.780 IDs because 46:58.780 --> 47:00.840 a government DMV 47:00.840 --> 47:03.180 software glitch from 2006 47:03.180 --> 47:04.000 apparently 47:04.000 --> 47:06.920 messed everything up and now all these 47:06.920 --> 47:09.120 real IDs have to be reissued so I mean 47:09.120 --> 47:10.900 if that doesn't speak volumes about what these 47:10.900 --> 47:13.540 centralized databases how incompetent 47:13.540 --> 47:15.240 that the people behind them running them 47:15.240 --> 47:17.240 and how insecure and unreliable 47:17.240 --> 47:19.680 they are I really think that you should probably 47:19.680 --> 47:20.420 you know 47:20.980 --> 47:23.240 take a good look at that and ask if that's 47:23.240 --> 47:25.180 something you want to be a part of and this really does 47:25.180 --> 47:26.440 seem like a off ramp 47:26.900 --> 47:28.960 what you're talking about with Osara here 47:28.960 --> 47:31.280 to actually have some type of 47:31.280 --> 47:32.560 leverage and some type of 47:33.180 --> 47:35.480 ability to move in a better direction 47:35.480 --> 47:37.360 now one of the questions that 47:37.360 --> 47:38.540 popped in my mind as you're 47:39.120 --> 47:40.920 explaining all this Aaron it might be 47:40.920 --> 47:43.100 you know kind of anecdotal here but like 47:43.100 --> 47:45.340 what do you say to the people who claim 47:45.340 --> 47:47.400 that well the healthcare in this 47:47.400 --> 47:49.460 country is it's paramount 47:49.460 --> 47:51.540 to any other country you know we have the best 47:51.980 --> 47:53.140 training we have the best 47:53.140 --> 47:55.200 tech the best standards if you go to a different 47:55.200 --> 47:57.240 country you're simply just not going to get that 47:57.240 --> 47:58.700 type of care I mean is there any 47:59.180 --> 48:01.140 legitimacy to that point I could imagine 48:01.140 --> 48:03.240 people having a knee-jerk reaction is there 48:03.240 --> 48:05.180 anything to that that you want to speak about 48:06.060 --> 48:07.160 they have that reaction 48:07.160 --> 48:09.300 and this I actually did 48:09.300 --> 48:11.240 it I had a whole podcast 48:11.240 --> 48:13.400 that's called America 1.0 is over and this 48:13.400 --> 48:15.060 actually feeds into something else which is a whole 48:15.060 --> 48:17.120 separate conversation but I mentioned I'm 48:17.120 --> 48:19.180 launching six different sites that are kind of all 48:19.180 --> 48:21.340 interconnected and the one 48:21.340 --> 48:23.860 site that I have is called ownnothing.org 48:23.860 --> 48:26.360 and what ownnothing.org 48:26.360 --> 48:27.400 has on it 48:27.400 --> 48:29.420 is a series of diagnostic tools that you 48:29.420 --> 48:30.500 you can take quizzes 48:31.300 --> 48:33.260 the purpose of which is to guide you to realize 48:33.260 --> 48:35.480 you already own nothing and just don't realize it 48:36.020 --> 48:37.580 you don't own your stock portfolio 48:37.580 --> 48:39.660 you don't own your investments we have 48:40.160 --> 48:41.380 we there was a 48:41.380 --> 48:42.920 TV show called newsroom 48:42.920 --> 48:45.440 and had this actor Jeff Daniels and 48:45.440 --> 48:47.420 he had a viral clip it was from 48:47.420 --> 48:48.960 2012 he was asked 48:48.960 --> 48:51.340 you know his character was asked what you know 48:51.340 --> 48:53.240 why are we the greatest nation 48:53.240 --> 48:55.140 in the world and you know 48:55.140 --> 48:57.440 he says we're not delivers this very impassioned 48:57.440 --> 48:59.240 speech and lists off where the United States 48:59.240 --> 49:00.960 lists where it ranks 49:00.960 --> 49:02.360 in all of these areas 49:03.100 --> 49:05.260 we have this post World War 2 49:05.260 --> 49:07.260 mentality that we're the greatest country 49:07.260 --> 49:09.460 in the world in a whole variety of areas 49:09.920 --> 49:11.440 we only lead the world 49:11.440 --> 49:13.600 in two categories defense spending 49:13.600 --> 49:15.060 and incarceration rate 49:15.060 --> 49:17.100 we are ranked 38th in health care 49:17.100 --> 49:19.100 the belief that we are the best 49:19.100 --> 49:21.020 in the world in health care is objectively 49:21.020 --> 49:23.180 false and it's tough 49:23.180 --> 49:25.020 because it's like you said this is going to be a knee 49:25.020 --> 49:27.040 jerk reaction because that's how strong the 49:27.040 --> 49:29.260 propaganda is in this country 49:29.260 --> 49:31.180 I'll give you another one you know we saw 49:31.180 --> 49:32.640 this mentality when I was growing up 49:32.640 --> 49:35.280 in the 80s people would say well you better 49:35.280 --> 49:37.020 finish your plate there are poor 49:37.020 --> 49:39.120 dying kids and dirt poor people 49:39.120 --> 49:41.240 in China that have nothing that are starving 49:41.240 --> 49:42.720 or that can only eat rice 49:42.720 --> 49:44.960 this is like a thing this is like the 49:44.960 --> 49:47.060 meme of the 80s if you're eating 49:47.060 --> 49:49.160 all of your food and 49:49.160 --> 49:50.640 as I've learned 49:50.640 --> 49:52.980 and dug into quite a bit as a result 49:52.980 --> 49:54.340 of my interactions with Mike Adams 49:54.780 --> 49:57.040 China leads the United States in 57 49:57.040 --> 49:58.460 of 64 technology 49:59.020 --> 50:01.080 categories but if you 50:01.080 --> 50:03.020 ask most Americans they think the 50:03.020 --> 50:05.100 US is the leader in innovation 50:05.100 --> 50:06.720 we're not even the leader in innovation 50:06.720 --> 50:09.000 South Korea is more innovative than we are 50:09.000 --> 50:10.160 China is more innovative 50:10.160 --> 50:13.520 this is part of the challenge with this whole 50:13.520 --> 50:15.180 what we're trying to do with these 50:15.180 --> 50:16.440 parallel systems is 50:17.060 --> 50:18.660 people don't have a realistic 50:18.660 --> 50:20.580 self-assessment of 50:20.940 --> 50:22.300 where they actually are 50:22.300 --> 50:25.080 and you can't fix anything until you recognize 50:25.080 --> 50:27.480 there's a problem so ownnothing.org 50:27.480 --> 50:28.120 is all about 50:28.820 --> 50:31.020 yeah you don't own your money you don't own your investments 50:31.020 --> 50:32.740 you don't own your health here's how the government 50:32.740 --> 50:34.840 surveilling you here's how your kids are being surveilled 50:34.840 --> 50:36.720 in schools and then another big 50:36.720 --> 50:37.820 component of this is 50:37.820 --> 50:40.320 how your attention is hijacked 50:40.320 --> 50:42.500 right this is actually probably the most 50:42.500 --> 50:44.240 fundamental of all 50:44.240 --> 50:46.420 and through big tech through algorithms 50:46.420 --> 50:48.540 media school so on and so forth 50:48.540 --> 50:50.680 you know if you can reclaim your 50:50.680 --> 50:52.680 attention sovereignty that's 50:52.680 --> 50:54.340 actually probably an anchor point 50:54.340 --> 50:56.700 for everything else so this ownnothing 50:56.700 --> 50:58.680 site allows you 50:58.680 --> 51:00.680 to diagnose the fact that it wake up to the 51:00.680 --> 51:02.380 fact that wow I actually really don't own this 51:02.380 --> 51:04.300 one of the things that I'm that 51:04.300 --> 51:06.800 drives me nuts I get really passionate 51:06.800 --> 51:07.640 about this is 51:08.220 --> 51:09.960 and this is true I just saw some 51:10.600 --> 51:12.680 poll that came out that 35 or 38 51:12.680 --> 51:14.740 percent of Americans hate their jobs 51:14.740 --> 51:15.680 but we live in a country 51:16.940 --> 51:18.720 where most people don't 51:18.720 --> 51:19.980 like what they do for a living 51:20.480 --> 51:22.320 many of those people have those jobs 51:22.320 --> 51:24.480 because they needed health insurance that 51:24.480 --> 51:25.580 doesn't actually 51:26.160 --> 51:28.100 improve their health and isn't there for 51:28.100 --> 51:29.940 catastrophic conditions 51:29.940 --> 51:31.920 so that they can then retire 51:31.920 --> 51:34.240 with these investment portfolios 51:34.240 --> 51:36.220 in stocks that they don't own 51:36.220 --> 51:37.980 but that are in companies that are building 51:37.980 --> 51:40.100 their digital prison this is actually the 51:40.100 --> 51:42.000 profile of the average 51:42.000 --> 51:44.180 person in America right now this 51:44.180 --> 51:45.880 is that cycle so 51:45.880 --> 51:47.860 trying to figure out how to break it trying to help 51:47.860 --> 51:50.080 raise awareness about the fact that 51:50.080 --> 51:51.820 we were already 90 percent 51:51.820 --> 51:54.060 in the digital prison right it's not 51:54.060 --> 51:56.020 coming it's kind of like people sit here and 51:56.020 --> 51:58.000 laugh oh you know look at what's going 51:58.000 --> 51:59.680 on with Starmer in the UK they're going to 51:59.680 --> 52:01.940 implement digital IDs by 2029 I've 52:01.940 --> 52:03.920 heard people say this that have real ID 52:03.920 --> 52:05.780 they actually have their own 52:05.780 --> 52:07.840 you know they have a real ID 52:08.700 --> 52:10.040 and so this is 52:10.040 --> 52:11.820 so bridging that propaganda 52:11.820 --> 52:13.440 that gulf of 52:13.960 --> 52:16.000 where we really are the assessment of reality 52:16.000 --> 52:17.380 versus perception of reality 52:17.860 --> 52:19.280 is something that needs to be done but 52:19.280 --> 52:21.980 to answer your question yeah there are a 52:21.980 --> 52:23.160 lot of knee-jerk reactions 52:23.680 --> 52:25.260 about this and so this is why 52:25.260 --> 52:27.060 I'm spending time as I'm developing 52:27.060 --> 52:29.180 the site and finishing the set I'm like 52:29.180 --> 52:30.900 how can we get a campaign I'm writing like a 52:31.340 --> 52:33.240 theme song around how do we 52:33.240 --> 52:35.000 get people excited about 52:35.000 --> 52:36.840 forming medical trust and canceling insurance 52:36.840 --> 52:39.160 because you only enroll insurance once a year 52:39.160 --> 52:40.940 right in November so it's like how can we 52:40.940 --> 52:42.820 get people to form medical trust protect their 52:42.820 --> 52:44.820 assets cancel insurance and then just tell 52:44.820 --> 52:46.320 these guys you know we're out 52:47.320 --> 52:49.020 because it wouldn't take a lot of people 52:49.020 --> 52:50.240 to do this to completely 52:50.240 --> 52:52.380 and totally transform the healthcare 52:52.380 --> 52:53.480 landscape in this country 52:54.180 --> 52:56.260 well let's hope the right ones are doing it 52:56.260 --> 52:56.920 like you are man 52:56.920 --> 53:00.100 you just mentioned theme song this is just a 53:00.100 --> 53:01.900 really quick question maybe you don't have to go into depth with it 53:01.900 --> 53:03.780 but you post all these songs 53:03.780 --> 53:05.960 that are clearly AI but they're really good 53:08.020 --> 53:08.680 I'm wondering 53:08.680 --> 53:09.920 are you the one making all these 53:09.920 --> 53:11.520 they're great lyrics 53:12.180 --> 53:14.060 they're really cool and captivating 53:14.060 --> 53:15.600 videos that go along with them 53:16.060 --> 53:17.000 who's making all that 53:17.980 --> 53:19.100 I'm making these I spent 53:19.100 --> 53:20.860 a lot of time on this so I started 53:20.860 --> 53:22.780 I created a but first AI 53:22.780 --> 53:24.880 song was they want to give them 109 53:24.880 --> 53:26.480 it was a song about Roger 53:26.480 --> 53:28.820 and it was a it's horrible if you going 53:28.820 --> 53:30.820 back and looking at it but I started 53:30.820 --> 53:32.780 playing with these tools and so I have a whole 53:32.780 --> 53:34.740 bunch like computer setup is 53:34.740 --> 53:36.920 absurd but I write all the 53:36.920 --> 53:38.960 songs and then I've developed a whole bunch of processes 53:39.900 --> 53:40.700 for creating 53:40.700 --> 53:42.920 music videos that I refine every time 53:42.920 --> 53:44.880 and it's gotten to the point now where you know I think 53:44.880 --> 53:46.880 I have 30 or 40 songs but each of the 53:46.880 --> 53:48.760 websites has it's going to have it's like its own 53:48.760 --> 53:50.760 anthem and I go through I spend a lot 53:50.760 --> 53:52.600 of time working on those songs because 53:53.660 --> 53:54.820 it's a great way to 53:55.320 --> 53:56.820 actually think through the clarity of your 53:56.820 --> 53:58.480 message and 53:58.480 --> 54:00.840 and the fact that you can you AI there was 54:00.840 --> 54:02.780 recently a country music song that was 54:02.780 --> 54:03.760 at the top of the charts 54:03.760 --> 54:06.640 I think that you know 54:07.980 --> 54:08.860 actually I will tell you 54:08.860 --> 54:10.760 90% of the time now I'm listening to my own AI 54:10.760 --> 54:11.580 generated music 54:12.060 --> 54:14.140 I love it I was like who is this artist 54:14.140 --> 54:16.200 I have to go see who this is and I'm like 54:16.200 --> 54:18.000 there is no such artist this is just 54:18.000 --> 54:19.940 Aaron making these crazy songs that are 54:19.940 --> 54:21.680 really good it was like an 54:21.680 --> 54:23.420 Americana song that you had shared 54:24.880 --> 54:26.160 it's probably the own nothing 54:26.160 --> 54:27.880 there's the own nothing theme song 54:28.360 --> 54:29.840 and then there's that by campaign 54:29.840 --> 54:31.100 theme song fan the flame 54:31.100 --> 54:33.740 I really like that song as well some are 54:33.740 --> 54:35.500 some are better than others but I you know I 54:35.500 --> 54:37.160 but I actually do spend a lot of time 54:37.160 --> 54:39.600 I you know I'm gonna I'm doing 54:39.600 --> 54:41.600 a podcast tonight Mike Adams on as 54:41.600 --> 54:43.560 an interview but I'm gonna show some of 54:43.560 --> 54:45.100 the tools that I've created for doing this 54:45.100 --> 54:47.400 because it's you know I've had people reach 54:47.400 --> 54:49.480 out like well can I play this live so I 54:49.480 --> 54:51.120 actually thought about what would be like to 54:51.120 --> 54:53.460 have a you know a concert where you get 54:53.460 --> 54:55.480 live artists to play your AI 54:55.480 --> 54:56.500 generated songs 54:58.660 --> 54:59.700 that's that may 54:59.700 --> 55:01.400 that will happen that will happen sooner 55:01.400 --> 55:03.520 rather than later so yeah I try to 55:03.520 --> 55:05.660 create one new song why publish 55:05.660 --> 55:07.040 one new song per week I create 55:07.040 --> 55:09.380 thousands and discard a lot of them but 55:09.920 --> 55:11.160 I enjoy the process 55:11.160 --> 55:13.040 and I don't have enough musical ability 55:13.040 --> 55:14.840 certainly I mean when you think about I have 55:14.840 --> 55:17.260 these range of songs that are completely different genres 55:17.260 --> 55:18.420 completely different artists 55:19.120 --> 55:21.020 it's it's amazing what you can do 55:21.020 --> 55:22.460 with the with the technology 55:22.980 --> 55:25.200 Oh certainly man and as you were talking 55:25.200 --> 55:26.960 about you know people are so blind and 55:26.960 --> 55:28.920 at the cognitive dissonance out there 55:28.920 --> 55:31.080 today is palpable and maybe this music 55:31.080 --> 55:32.740 can help poke through that 55:32.740 --> 55:35.040 you know through their their blinders and 55:35.040 --> 55:36.680 maybe open them up a little bit to the 55:36.680 --> 55:38.620 reality of what we're facing here instead of 55:38.620 --> 55:40.840 just living in this ridiculous left right 55:40.840 --> 55:42.260 paradigm I mean 55:42.260 --> 55:44.580 the song might work better than listening to me for 55:44.580 --> 55:45.560 four hours right 55:46.880 --> 55:48.820 for sure man I'm telling you 55:49.480 --> 55:51.140 hey free thinkers this is Matt 55:51.140 --> 55:52.840 agarist and I'm gonna take a quick pause 55:52.840 --> 55:54.460 to remind you of something really important 55:55.040 --> 55:56.840 first off apologies for the interruption 55:56.840 --> 55:58.780 but if you're still here that means 55:58.780 --> 56:00.360 you're resonating with what we're doing 56:00.900 --> 56:02.600 and we need your help to keep it alive 56:02.600 --> 56:04.700 independent platforms like ours 56:04.700 --> 56:06.520 don't survive on corporate sponsorships 56:06.520 --> 56:08.120 or mainstream media funding 56:08.120 --> 56:09.960 we survive because of you 56:10.600 --> 56:12.620 if you're finding value in these unfiltered 56:12.620 --> 56:14.180 conversations and real solutions 56:14.180 --> 56:16.580 the best way to support us is by liking 56:16.580 --> 56:18.780 subscribing and sharing this podcast 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mission and helping us 56:53.160 --> 56:55.320 to stay independent your support is 56:55.320 --> 56:57.100 what keeps this platform alive and 56:57.100 --> 56:58.940 fighting so thank you 56:58.940 --> 57:00.920 for being part of this journey for sharing 57:00.920 --> 57:03.160 these ideas and for standing with us 57:04.360 --> 57:05.020 so yeah 57:05.020 --> 57:07.120 man we are we're hitting the end of the 57:07.120 --> 57:09.020 podcast here we have enough time 57:09.020 --> 57:10.640 for our white pill question 57:10.640 --> 57:12.880 we do usually do a white pill at the 57:12.880 --> 57:14.820 end of this at the end of the podcast as everybody 57:14.820 --> 57:16.980 listening knows but honestly 57:16.980 --> 57:18.900 this you know this entire episode has kind of 57:18.900 --> 57:20.780 been one it's incredible to see 57:20.780 --> 57:22.920 someone with their hand in so many 57:22.920 --> 57:24.960 fires dude like all burning for the same 57:24.960 --> 57:26.400 cause you did the you know 57:26.400 --> 57:28.140 the 40 day fast for roger 57:28.140 --> 57:29.700 there which was insane 57:30.740 --> 57:32.120 you're out there constantly 57:32.120 --> 57:34.160 exposing the cbdc grids 57:34.160 --> 57:36.400 you know control grid you're building 57:36.400 --> 57:38.500 oasara and i apologize i said it incorrectly 57:38.500 --> 57:39.880 earlier but oasara 57:40.400 --> 57:42.460 to give you know a potential 57:42.460 --> 57:44.580 escape patch for medical freedom and 57:44.580 --> 57:46.340 and you're running for 57:46.340 --> 57:47.020 senate dude 57:48.020 --> 57:50.200 to go right into the belly of the beast 57:50.200 --> 57:51.980 like this is it's amazing man 57:52.700 --> 57:54.400 but it highlights how big the problem 57:54.400 --> 57:56.400 is right we have like 57:56.400 --> 57:58.140 this is the only way to fight it we're 57:58.140 --> 57:59.980 facing a three headed monster right now we have 57:59.980 --> 58:01.680 like this deep cultural division 58:02.380 --> 58:03.780 total government dependency 58:04.200 --> 58:06.080 and like just a rig monetary system 58:06.560 --> 58:08.020 and so you know 58:08.020 --> 58:10.220 i kind of when we do like a white pill 58:10.220 --> 58:11.820 episode i tend to ask the 58:12.320 --> 58:14.500 the guest if they they had a magic wand 58:14.500 --> 58:16.280 but i don't think that that's the right 58:16.280 --> 58:18.100 approach here so like i want to ask you 58:18.100 --> 58:20.340 like if you had our comedies 58:20.340 --> 58:22.460 lever if you could place 58:22.460 --> 58:24.520 a lever in just one spot to 58:24.520 --> 58:26.140 shift the world away from this 58:26.140 --> 58:28.660 this tyranny and and back 58:28.660 --> 58:30.500 toward liberty where do you put it 58:30.500 --> 58:32.420 like what is the one root cause 58:33.000 --> 58:34.680 that we need to strike 58:34.680 --> 58:36.540 that makes all these other forms 58:36.540 --> 58:38.740 of slavery collapse what's most important 58:38.740 --> 58:40.500 to you we've given up 58:40.500 --> 58:42.100 our free will to 58:42.720 --> 58:44.480 institutions to third parties to 58:44.480 --> 58:46.460 politicians and to white knights we need to 58:46.460 --> 58:48.440 reclaim our sovereignty 58:48.440 --> 58:50.500 we need to recognize that our rights don't come 58:50.500 --> 58:52.800 from government or from other institutions 58:52.800 --> 58:54.540 or other individuals that that 58:54.540 --> 58:56.620 is the spark for all of it because until 58:56.620 --> 58:58.500 that happens you know people aren't 58:59.040 --> 59:00.420 unless you understand that you're not going 59:00.420 --> 59:02.140 to be willing to stop using the dollar 59:02.140 --> 59:04.300 exit the health care system so that's 59:04.300 --> 59:06.420 that's really probably the number one 59:06.420 --> 59:08.280 leverage point is that people people need 59:08.280 --> 59:10.420 to have more self ownership 59:10.420 --> 59:12.180 and realize that 59:12.180 --> 59:14.540 they have free will and that they 59:14.540 --> 59:16.560 need to exercise it because if you don't 59:16.560 --> 59:18.580 exercise it it will be exercised 59:18.580 --> 59:21.200 for you and increasingly that's going to be 59:21.200 --> 59:22.440 by a 59:23.120 --> 59:25.060 technocratic AI surveillance state 59:25.620 --> 59:26.520 Jesus yeah 59:27.420 --> 59:28.620 there you have it folks 59:28.620 --> 59:30.940 we need to exercise our free will 59:30.940 --> 59:32.840 and apply critical thought to every 59:32.840 --> 59:34.860 scenario and not just 59:34.860 --> 59:36.720 go with what your team is 59:36.720 --> 59:38.640 telling you to go with like that's the only way 59:38.640 --> 59:40.840 out of this Aaron thank you so much 59:40.840 --> 59:42.720 for coming on today man is great having you 59:42.720 --> 59:44.500 on a fourth time like Jason said at the beginning 59:44.500 --> 59:46.420 of podcast you are now a veteran of the show 59:46.420 --> 59:48.020 top 5% of all guests 59:48.580 --> 59:50.380 before we before we sign off here 59:50.380 --> 59:52.460 man can you tell people where they can 59:52.460 --> 59:53.940 find and support your work 59:53.940 --> 59:56.520 sure you can find me at daylightfreedom.org 59:57.280 --> 59:58.640 and daylightfreedom.org 59:58.640 --> 01:00:00.380 is kind of the portal to all the other different 01:00:00.380 --> 01:00:02.320 things that that we're working on whether 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.320 it's oasara or the air and day show 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:06.440 podcast or technocracy atlas which we 01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:08.360 didn't talk about which is a crowd 01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:10.380 source site for exploring 01:00:10.380 --> 01:00:12.020 information about technocracy have all the 01:00:12.020 --> 01:00:14.340 Epstein files and images on there and 01:00:14.340 --> 01:00:16.760 everything else and own nothing.org 01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:17.820 you can get to all of that through 01:00:18.240 --> 01:00:19.840 daylightfreedom.org and then you can find me 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:22.700 on x for now at Aaron our day 01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:24.760 hell yeah we'll have 01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:26.380 the links down at the bottom of the 01:00:26.380 --> 01:00:28.160 podcast description for everybody listening 01:00:28.160 --> 01:00:30.080 right now Aaron thank you man it was 01:00:30.080 --> 01:00:31.740 great dude appreciate what you do 01:00:31.740 --> 01:00:34.080 thank you Aaron you guys too thank you 01:00:39.730 --> 01:00:41.210 thank you for listening 01:00:41.210 --> 01:00:43.670 to the free thought project podcast 01:00:44.390 --> 01:00:46.010 and please don't forget to rate 01:00:46.010 --> 01:00:47.450 review and subscribe 01:00:49.430 --> 01:00:51.010 free minds 01:00:51.010 --> 01:00:52.910 free people