The first one is understand the common enemy and stop doing the us and them of the trans
people in California and the conservative Islamists in Iran and focus on the common enemy.
That's number one.
Don't overestimate the strength of the common enemy.
That's number two.
Be aware of the extent to which you go along with tyranny and don't do it.
That's number three.
And number four, as you said, in order to be clearheaded like that, you have
to guard against becoming emotional in response to every shiny ball and a bit of fear or violence
porn that's put in front of you.
Been listening to your podcast for a while now and I love the content and the brutal
honesty.
As an attorney who fought against COVID mandates, I follow a lot of dissenting medical and
legal voices and read a lot of great stacks, but your posts and podcasts are amongst
my favorite.
Thank you for all you do.
Legal Glass, thank you so much for that lovely comment and thank you for subscribing to my
sub stack.
Helgi.
Hi, Amid.
All the best and lots of love from Iceland.
I've been researching all this stuff since around 2009-ish and I have to say that your
podcast is one of the best in the space so far and I fully support your change to
start charging for every episode.
I didn't even know that you had to pay well before.
If you're ever in Iceland, please come by and visit me in my brewery in Hilla.
Wow.
Well, I hope I do get to visit Iceland and I'll definitely give you a shout
out if I come.
And Jewel, I believe you're one of the few out there that is not controlled by ego, arrogance,
pride, money or coercion.
It is truly humbling to discover how much of our lives are based on lies which we've failed
to question.
And to everyone else who's signed up and become a supporter on Spotify and on sub
stack, I just want to say thank you so much and welcome.
You're part of a wonderful tribe and you keep this show alive and I'm most grateful.
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You know, it's the Iran Wars kicked off and suddenly we've got blue skies,
no chem trails and I'm out in the garden.
I'm just working.
It was beautiful.
And I, you know, I didn't think about checking the weather and this morning
it's foggy, it's cold, the heater in the studio wasn't turned on.
So I've got my jumper on.
I've got my gloves here.
I've got my hat because I'm really cold.
And but yeah, that's what the weather's like.
So this is why I'm dressed up the way I am.
But you've got beautiful weather where you are, don't you?
Yeah, it's stunning at the moment, you know, we enjoying that sort of fading
days of summer and it's still and clear and a variable temperature.
So yeah, I'm full of the joys of life today.
Rub it in, rub it in, my friend.
All right, listen, Nick, I really appreciate you coming on me.
You know, you did this great podcast with me here in the studio
ages ago when I just started and you did the timeline of bullshit,
which has been viewed by tens of thousands of people around the world.
And you're kind of known for that.
But you're also known for your your your kind of like version of Occam's razor,
which Nick Hudson's razor.
Do you want to just repeat that for anybody who's never heard of that?
Everybody's heard of your bullshit timeline.
But tell me about Nick Hudson's razor.
Hudson's razor, as they call it.
Yeah, it's a very simple proposition that any problem that is presented
as a global problem, number one, admitting only global solutions,
number two, amid an environment of suppression of descent,
number three is a scam.
Simple as that.
If somebody is telling you that there's global warming,
that's the global problem.
And the only way we get to solve it is by cutting CO2 emissions.
That's the global solution.
And if you're not one of the 98 percent, supposedly,
scientists who support this, then we're going to destroy your careers
and ban you from YouTube and suppress your reach on Twitter and whatnot.
So that makes the CO2 climate crisis thing a definitive scam.
And of course, the same applies to covid.
Of course, it does.
Absolutely.
Dude, and talking about Twitter,
my reach has definitely been throttled.
I was I was I was like getting an extra thousand
like followers every fortnight.
And in the last six months, it's just stopped.
That's it. It's just capped.
And I think, yeah, something they've come on their radar
and they're like, we need to shut this guy down.
And Alex Williams, Alex Creel did a grok analysis
and he's shown me that my account is now locked in.
So it will reach out to the people who follow me.
But no new person can see what I'm saying.
And in effect, I'm kind of like shadowband, which is so you've got freedom
of speech, but no freedom of reach.
But anyway, I posted this and it's kind of relevant
to the the message that you sent me the other day.
And, you know, what is it with these people?
I don't understand these people get vaccinated.
Agenda 2013, net zero, digital ID, the covid pandemic, you know,
CBDCs and they're like, no, no, we don't want any of that.
We were totally awake to all that.
And then the moment, you know, our savior starts bombing Iran,
we're like, yeah, this is great. This is wonderful.
What is wrong with people?
Look, I mean, this is a kind of, for me, a process that's gone in steps.
You know, when we came out initially against lockdown,
we enjoyed a massive surge in support and networking.
And very quickly, I found myself propelled from the corridors
of quiet investing behavior in South Africa
into a network of very compelling individuals
who are still many of whom are still close friends.
But it was a very broad international network.
And then the first point of controversy that began
to factor the group was was vaccination.
Some people inside the group's waters, the way out of the pandemic.
Other people said, what pandemic?
There is no pandemic.
That's the whole damn point.
And this vaccination thing is part of the con.
And so, you know, that put people at loggerheads
and there was a split and people left, you know,
I was very much in the latter group.
So it was the, oh, no, let's all get vaccinated.
People who exited.
Then it was the Ukraine crisis.
There were the people who said, you know, oh, you know,
Putin just got out of bed on the wrong side
and invaded Ukraine and he's a thug and it's awful.
And the poor Ukrainians and everything.
And then the rest of us who said, what are you guys crazy?
This is the product of 20 years of no-time machination.
This is an outstanding example of the adage
that all wars are bankers' wars.
Ukraine people are going to suffer Zelensky's
and obviously acting puppet is a documented history
of him being exactly that.
What are you smoking?
And that fractured the group.
And then there was Palestine, the Israel Gaza situation.
And some people said, oh, you know,
there's October the 7th, you've got to take out,
you've got to take out a mask and whatever you have to do
and they hide in the hospitals and schools and the rest of us said,
come on, you know, there's obviously plenty of nonsense
around October the 7th.
And remember that Assad was behind September 11
and the assassination of Kennedy
and various other atrocities.
And alongside the CIA, in that regard,
the CIA behind almost countless, I would say,
terrorist attacks, Operation Gladio,
just a long history of doing anything
but what is good for the American citizenry
and showing increasing signs of simply being part
of a criminal elite that has lost all moral compass.
And so we lost some people around that again
because how can you say that that's anti-Semitic?
And then along comes the Iranian war
and the country that was going to have nukes next week
for the last 30 years or 50 years
or something like that one loses count
is now, he's got to be regime change
because look at the horrible things
that you do to women or whatever, you know.
And the rest of us look at it,
there's about a few remaining ones of us,
look at it and say, no guys,
this is transnational financial capital doing its thing.
Did you not, were you not paying attention
to what happened in Syria, you know,
where they regime changed the horrible Assad regime
and replaced them with a bunch of ISIS head cutters
that are, you know, some are connected to,
to Mossad and the CIA, you know.
Dude, this is why I love you.
Look, sorry for cutting you off.
I mean, cause you've just nailed it.
And, you know, when you sent me that message,
this Iran invasion makes me livid.
Once again, I find my circles decreasing
by a proportion of people I thought were sensible
but who see this regime change operation making sense.
You know, absolutely, it's just like,
I'm sorry, I hate to say this.
It's not just a case of brainwashing and propagandize.
I think a lot of people are showing themselves
and revealing their closet racist attitudes.
These are brand people.
These are another culture.
They're Muslim.
They're subhuman.
They're others.
We're better.
We're superior.
We're westernized.
We're Western civilization.
We've got Judeo-Christian values.
And it's the superiority, racial, cultural,
whatever you want to call it,
coupled with extremist religious fundamentalism.
I'm not talking about idolatry.
I'm not talking about Muslim fundamentalism,
which is real.
I'm talking about Christian fundamentalism,
Jewish fundamentalism, that we are superior.
We have, this is revelations.
This is end times.
I mean, there's US commanders now openly coming out
and people are talking about it.
They're saying, this is God's war.
This is Armageddon.
And it's like, what is going on with these people?
And it's the hypocrisy.
So forget about the genocide in Gaza for a second.
You know, imagine, imagine Iran bombed a school.
And we're talking about 170, 180 girls
between the age of seven and 12.
Imagine this was the UK right now in London.
Imagine this was Washington DC.
You know, imagine the outcry.
These Muslim barbarics,
they don't care about civilians, about children.
They're awful.
We need to destroy them.
No, folks, this was British and American and Israeli bombs.
And they've done it.
And where's the outcry?
Where's the Western media outcry?
There is none.
And it's this hypocrisy, this blindness
to the evil that's being done
that I just cannot comprehend.
And again, what is that?
What's wrong with these people?
These are, like you said, these circles
that we were mixing with, these are intelligent people.
What's happening there?
Well, we're five minutes in
and I've got four really interesting veins to,
interesting threads to pull on
from what you've been talking about, Ahmed.
Ahmed, the first I would say is this.
You know, eschatological considerations aside,
and I agree with you,
there are a bunch of crazies out there
who are adopting sort of millenarian perspectives
and seem to be all in on weird businesses
around third temples and whatnot.
Eschatological considerations aside.
I think the point you make about
it's happening to brown people is a solid one.
And the way I like to describe this to people, you know, okay.
So let's save to all intents and purposes,
I do agree with you, Mr. Interlocutor.
And what happens to some woman in Iran,
what has happened in the past in Iran,
to some woman does not comply with my standards.
I do not support that kind of behavior, okay.
So I'm in agreement with you, okay.
I also don't support the kind of behavior
indulged in California, where they're castrate,
physically castrate, confuse teenagers
and have a state-sponsored program
of confusing those teenagers
so that they can castrate some more.
I'm not going to bomb or support the bombing of California
because there are a bunch of trans lunatics in California
who are supported by that government,
by government, Governor Newsom.
I'm not going to bomb California.
I don't want to see California bombed.
I don't want to see Iran attacking California
because they don't like that.
Now, just as I don't support the bullying of women
and forcing them into their job
and whipping them and executing them by stoning
if they get raped or indulged in infidelity
and all this kind of stuff.
I don't support that.
I think it's horrific, but I don't want to bomb Iran
or have anybody else bomb it,
especially when the reasons for that bombing
are so patently having nothing to do
with the plight of certain women.
And while we're at it,
can you please pay attention to the country enough
to realize that it's a massively diverse big country
with a hinterland that is almost incommunicable,
mountainous, rugged, badlands,
where tribal people who have lived there
with lives unchanged for centuries
and whose lifestyle and ways of thinking
about the world is markedly different
from what goes on in Tehran and in the universities
of Iran or in the streets of major centers.
And practices that are varied over time
and continue to move and to ameliorate
in some places and worse than in others, it's diverse.
You're not talking about a country
where the media caricature of a place
where every woman has to live in constant fear
of being stoned or whipped
if their hijab slips on the bus,
that's the media caricature.
You know, can we at least grow up a little bit
and spend enough time engaging
with the actual nature of the country
and perhaps visiting it before you decide
that you're fully behind the bombastic idiot
like Trump who wants to bomb it?
Sorry, I don't even like blaming on Trump
because it's so obvious that he's not in power
and that America is no longer a sovereign nation.
Hasn't been for quite some time.
So I just lose patience altogether
and I've become very thick-skinned.
You know, people will turn around
based on the last five minutes of what I've had to say
and some prick out, they will call me an anti-Semite.
You know, that's gonna happen for sure, guaranteed.
But I'm not, I have many Jewish friends.
My view is as far as I can tell,
none of them would really support
what's going on if they knew the full depth of it
or if they're stopped to think about it for long enough,
that their moral systems as I read them in real life
do not comport with that of the agents of Mossad
or Benjamin Netanyahu.
They do not.
I think at this stage it's actually anti-Semitic
to support Benjamin Netanyahu.
He departs from what I understand.
He departs from what I understand Judaism to represent.
And I know, some cross guy in America or the UK now,
he thinks that the Jews are responsible
for everything is also gonna attack me.
Nick, you're such a fool, can't you see?
You know, because look what the Talmud says
or look what the Kabbalah's Jews say.
Tell me about the inversion of the Kellothic
and let's talk about the various things,
their blood libals and all this nonsense.
And to them, I would say exactly the same thing
as I would say to somebody criticizing Christians
for the Crusades or something like that.
You don't just blindly sweep aside entire cultures
and civilizations because of the actions of a few.
You know, are they crazy, are they crazy Zionists
who believe in world domination by the Jews,
et cetera, et cetera?
Yeah, for sure.
The head of the world Zionist,
what is it, World Zionist Federation or something like that
at one stage was a man who believed exactly those things
and he was there for 30 years.
But most Jewish people think of Zionism as a home,
the quest for a homeland.
And I support anybody's request for a homeland.
I believe that one of the problems of our world
is that we've diversified way too fast
and this multiculturalism is an absolute train wreck.
You can't shake societies like that.
You can't buff it complex systems
without terribly adverse results.
So I am no friend of multiculturalism.
I'm one of those people who,
they're rather strange cat called Eric Weinstein
once referred to as a xenophilic immigration restrictionist.
I love foreigners and I'm very interested
in other cultures and I love meeting them
and traveling to their countries
and having their food and talking to them,
engaging with them and finding out how they live
and so on.
It's a lovely thing.
It's a, I spent many of my years seeking out such contacts.
But I want my culture to be to an extent protected
from invasion, no matter how peaceful the invasion is
because I know that culture is a thing to be treasured.
It needs to be to the extent that it changes
and evolves over time.
It needs to do so on the margin and by degrees,
wholesale changes to culture are very, very dangerous.
And so yeah, importing a bunch of Syrians to my hometown
or a bunch of Nigerians or whatever you want.
I don't want that and it's got nothing to do with
whatever color they are in that particular place.
Nothing at all.
It's just that I don't want to see
my culture suddenly diluted.
Do you know what?
Can I quickly say something?
Some people might say this is very rich coming from you,
a white South African who's people about 100, 150 years ago
came over to Africa, subjugated the Africans,
took over the country.
It's just a matter of time.
Now you think of yourself as African,
you were born there, your parents,
but your parents, your family, your descendants came over,
invaded, literally invaded and conquered
and subjugated the local people.
It's just a matter of time.
Today, the Americans are coming into Europe,
100 years from now, they'll be Europeans,
it'll be their land.
I don't accept that line of thinking either, I mean.
I'm just playing devil's advocate.
No, I got you.
I appreciate that.
The reason I don't accept that line of thinking is,
you know, the past is the past
and invasions and atrocities happen
and people find themselves where they are
and all of those historical forces converge
to create culture and, you know, it's...
So for example, you know,
immediately prior to the sort of conflict,
the first major racial conflicts in South Africa
and in the sense of wars, you know,
because do you mind,
should I do a quick portrait history
for the benefit of people who don't know
just of South Africa, okay?
So, I mean, South Africa starts back in the 15th century.
You know, the story of at least European interest
in South Africa starts back in the 15th century.
At that time, South Africa was fairly sparsely populated
in the Southwest.
There were people of Koisan origin,
that's a language and cultural group
into which the Bushmen and Hotentots,
these are the sort of common names
by which people know them, would fit
and they were hunter-gatherers.
They didn't even have livestock or steel
or any kind of village life or anything like that.
They were nomadic hunter-gatherers, some of them cavemen.
And so they were them
and they were in the Southwest corner,
but extremely small population.
And initially there was very little interaction.
They didn't need to be,
there was suddenly these guys sitting in the port,
well, sitting in the bay in Cape Town
where they were growing a few plants
and feeding the passing ships,
which they only were a handful a year sort of thing.
And that,
there wasn't even initial permanent establishment
until the Dutch arrived in force in the 17th century
and started putting up permanent structures and so on.
When I say that they were establishing waypoints,
it was a tree for the purpose of leaving a letter
for the part of the returning ships
and maybe a little structure
to foreshelter while they stopped to get fresh water
from the waters that ran off Table Mountain.
So initially that was where the interface took place.
But in the hinterland further to the North and East,
there was a movement of people down the East Coast of Africa
that had been ongoing for millennia.
And there were big,
where there was one particularly big grouping,
the Southern Buntoy people
of which the Zulu Nation is a member.
And that was a fairly fragmented story,
not a giant uniform polity.
But in the 19th century,
that polity began to consolidate
under the rulership of a brutal dictator called King Shaka.
And he caused a historical event called the Diffekkane,
which means I think the scattering.
Basically ripples of tribes
who were being attacked by the Zulu Nation,
falling upon the tribes that were outside of,
that their epicenter used displacements of people
throughout the subcontinent.
And it was against those people and another nation
to the Southwest of them that caused a nation
that the initial conflicts between the British Empire
which was the successor of the Dutch in the Cape
had their conflicts.
And so there was a long multi-century story.
It wasn't like, well, we're going in there to invade
and take over all of them.
There was an ebb and flow of economic greed of desperation.
I mean, a large number of the settlers
in Southern Africa were Huguenots
who were fleeing religious persecution
in Northwestern Europe.
Some of my forebears were Huguenots
who came to South Africa in the 17th century.
We talked almost 400 years ago.
And so it's a very complex story.
And I don't see the need to get all upset
or about the distant past on behalf of my cultural group
because there was a conflict
or because there was a displacement of people
any more than I think we should be getting upset
about Chaka having once in the past
displaced many cultures in the Southern African subcontinent.
I think this kind of historical revisionism
of you going back as far as it is convenient
and coming up with a point where you say,
and that point in 1750 or wherever
means that you Nick Hudson have to shut up over here
or you Nick Hudson are not allowed to voice your opinions
or to talk about current period atrocities.
So I just don't bother line of reasoning.
So yeah.
I tell people often in South Africa,
black people in South Africa who do it inside my friendship
raise these kinds of arguments
and I'm very scathing and dismissing often.
So what I would say is,
you know, if you look at the history of man
there have been migrations and movements
of people throughout history.
And we're going back tens, tens of thousands of years.
Even the modern day white European
is a migrant from the Asian step.
Like apparently the Europeans before that
were slightly brown in color.
And you know, the even modern day Slavic people
have migrated into Europe.
And we're talking about thousands of thousands of years ago
but what I'm trying to say is
they've been waves of migration.
This is just human history.
And you know, it's just a matter of time
where you go back like what is even for example
the current day British person like a Briton.
The Romans are almost like, you know, non-existent.
They're Viking migrating invasions.
They were the Huguenots into Britain and England.
They were the Angles, the Saxons,
you know, the Picts, the original Scottish people.
I mean, they're gone.
So I mean, like there's just been Romans came
into bread, married, you know, there's,
this is human history.
But I think what differentiates in the modern day
normal I think migration would be
where you have a host country with its values,
its language, its traditions and people come in
and integrate into that country.
They do not separate themselves.
They do not have their separate culture.
They become a tapestry of the host nation.
What I feel today, what we're seeing is
massive forced displacement of people
by wars and conflicts into the West
and then they are bringing their traditions
and values and not really integrating
into the host country or, you know,
there's a divide being created.
And this idea then, and that's not healthy.
I don't think that's healthy.
Like my dad came over to Scotland 80, 80, 90 years ago
and we were never taught like we're gonna be separate.
We were told like you're Scottish.
You're, you know, be proud to be Scottish.
I don't have dual citizenship.
I don't have any other loyalty of any other country.
I don't think I, you know, I am Scottish.
I live in England now.
You know, I'm British, you know, and this is my country.
And I feel like I'm a fully integrated member
of this country.
I don't like the idea of multiculturalism
where people bring their own values and cultures
and want to change the country
and impose their values on it.
I don't think that should be the case.
And the problem of multiculturalism is now
what we're saying is globalization,
which means there is actually no diversity.
All high streets look the same.
All the restaurants are the same fast food joints.
All the movies are the same.
The music's the same.
There is no culture.
I remember going to Paris as a kid and it was Paris.
It was different.
I remember going to Germany.
It was different from France and Scotland.
Now, you know, I would argue any European high street,
you really struggle to see the difference between them.
They're all the same.
And this isn't diversity.
And what you just have is pockets of different cultures
and people trying to live together,
but there is no national identity anymore.
And so that's what I'm against.
I agree with you.
And you know, I recently had a wonderful experience
a few months ago.
A close friend of mine who has a glorious estate
on one of the major islands in Fiji
invited my wife and I to his estate
as sort of a wedding gift, as it were.
And so we spent a good three weeks there
in a completely new country for us.
And the unique thing about Fiji
is because of its geographic remoteness
and its kind of relative lack of resources
that would interest empire.
They have managed to retain a uniquely Fijian culture
and it's pervasive.
Sure, they have all sorts of intrusions
from the developed world in terms of technology and so on.
But in terms of the way they interact with each other
and with foreigners in terms of their way of life
and how they engage with the world and with nature,
it's a palpably preserved culture.
And I was just rejoicing in it.
It was just a delight to talk to them,
to just work out what it was that was so warm
and so entrancing about that culture
and to see the warts, you know.
And that contrasts so heavily
with this anodine homogenization
that you see in the capital cities
that business travelers like me frequent
in Madrid or London.
You know, there's this relentless thin gruel
of Starbucks and chain restaurants
and social propaganda
projecting the globalist fashion of the day.
I can no longer go to London with pleasure at all.
I used to love the city,
but for me it's not just painful to be there.
I have a board meeting that I must attend there
twice a year, I get in, I get out.
And it's deeply saddening.
It was a place where I used to just sink myself
into the culture.
I'd make my business trips as long as possible.
I would be visiting people and going to art galleries
and going to concerts and taking walks
and admiring the architecture.
But I can't bear it anymore.
And so I get out as quickly as I can.
I feel a completely different thing
when I go to Uganda or Mozambique or to Fiji.
There I feel, you know, really at ease
and as much as I'm horrified by the poverty around me
and so on, I engage with people in a way
that seems to be much more human
and much more humane.
Absolutely.
I mean, because like your Hudson razor,
you know, forget the perceived global problems.
We have real actual global problems
which are not discussed.
And these global problems, it's incredible
that whether you're in New Zealand or Canada
or the States in California or in London in the UK
has in cost incredibly high.
Everyone is being outpriced.
No one can afford houses.
People are rented up to their eyeballs.
Cost of living.
It doesn't matter anywhere in the Western world,
five-wise nations, people are struggling to get by.
The food bills are incredible.
These are these are truly global problems.
And it's insane that it's everywhere.
Like, why is this problem everywhere?
And globalization has done this that, you know,
I think it's engineered that, you know,
we cannot afford our homes.
If you go to London now, you know,
there was a time when people lived there all their lives.
Their parents lived there, they lived there.
Now they have to sell up.
They can't afford they can't afford a house where they grew up.
They have to now commute in an hour, an hour and a half.
So there's a breakup of local communities.
People don't know their neighbors anymore.
Most homes are bought by investors
from Dubai and China and Russia.
And God knows where.
So you have these empty buildings.
There are literally like towers of flats that are empty.
They're just investment properties, you know,
buy to let second homes or God knows what.
So, you know, you have no, the nurses, the doctors,
the firemen, the police officers, they don't live in London.
People don't live in London anymore.
Who lives in London?
They're Airbnb.
They're rich people from abroad, students from China.
God knows what the soul and character of the city
is defined by the people who live there.
And if if Londoners don't live in London anymore
and they live in either ghettos or out in the periphery,
what do you have?
You have this stream of people that just come and go, come and go.
There is no continuity.
There is no community.
There is no history.
There's no memory of the place.
And then suddenly everywhere is vanilla, and it's the same.
Anywhere you go, whether it's Vancouver or Sydney,
people can't afford to live in these places anymore.
And we, you know, it's just sad to see this, you know.
And I think this is a real global problem.
You I mean, you started and ended with an observation
that that this sense of affordability problems and of,
you know, it's not just affordability in terms of money.
It's also in terms of time.
People are working, you know, two incomes in a household,
long hours, battling to maintain a coherent nuclear family, really.
And this has been a worsening problem
in a great many places for decades.
And the frustrating thing about that
is that we don't need to find the solutions to that problem.
The solutions were very firmly in place already, you know,
from the late, from the second, let's call it the second half
of the 19th century through to the middle of the,
or the early part of the second half of the 20th century.
Decentralized free economies and small states
were furnishing everything we needed to know.
You didn't need a central plan.
And you didn't need a government telling you how to do it.
People got onto the job.
They hustled and living standards improved remarkably.
Poverty shrank, you know, absolutely decreated in those countries
and even in other places
that were sort of the second order effects beneficiaries.
So, yeah, I call it from 1850 to 1970.
We had this world where governments were small.
Yes, there were interventions by the the banking parasites
that resulted in shocks to the system and so on.
But overall poverty levels declined and living standards improved.
And then centralization and the advance of the welfare state,
the advance of socialism, which is now pervasive in the West,
even if people don't really understand that it is,
sort to it that innovation would come to an end,
that productivity would come to an end,
productivity improvement would come to an end
and that the growth in median incomes
with median incomes would come to an end.
And so what's happened is the the solutions we already had found
have simply been suppressed even to the point of being outlawed.
So we have the solution to affordability problems.
We have the solution to the emergence of strong local cultures and communities.
We know what the solution is.
It's been practiced, it was practiced in the West for a century.
But these crazy centralizing maniacs,
the banksters, the transnational capital,
the United Nations types, your Tony Blair's, your Bill Clinton's,
your Rothschild's, your Rockefeller's.
These absolute nutcases believe in the managerial way,
which is to say the same way tried by Stalin and Mao
to the enormous cost of their civilian populations.
That is what we face.
That is what that is what is in control of the West right now.
And it is the most pernicious set of moral and intellectual ideas
that's ever been encountered.
We know why it is like that.
We know how it can to be.
We can see the history of its rise, who propped it up,
who misrepresented it, who forced it upon us.
And what are we doing as citizens?
We're fighting with each other over whether a bombastic idiot
like Trump is better than a vacuous nitwit like Harris.
Or whether, you know, the Mullahs in Iran are better than the
Greeks in Israel.
You know, the fight is all about that is polarized
when we should just be turning around and saying
these complete and utter psychos who are back in both sides
in these wars are not going to get hold of us.
We're not going to be helping the fishbowl.
Yeah, absolutely.
I want to come back to Iran a bit.
I mean, it's actually just wild, the stuff that's going on.
So recently, I mean, we're censored from hearing anything
from the Iranian side because, you know, that's just propaganda.
We, the West, our governments never do propaganda.
Our governments care about us.
You know, we're bombing Iran because we care about the women in Iran.
Forget the Epstein list.
Forget the rape and the pillage and the cannibalism
and the child sacrifice and the child trafficking
that's being done in the West.
No, no, no, we care about the women in Iran.
I mean, that's completely logical.
Of course it is, isn't it?
I mean, we can go and target the Iranian regime and the Ayatollah.
And by the way, I'm no fan of them at all,
but we can go and target them and assassinate them halfway
around the world, but we can't find anyone on the Epstein list
that's done all this child trafficking and child abuse
and arrest them here at home.
That is just insane.
But who am I to question that?
But now what's even come out even more wild?
I mean, there's this stuff coming out every day that's insane.
You know, the Iranians have said, their officials have said,
we're bombing US bases and military infrastructure.
We're not targeting civilians.
But then in the Middle East, now we've got bombs going off
in refineries in UAE and Saudi Arabia.
And now evidence has come out that Israelis,
Zionist agents have been captured planting bombs in the Gulf.
They're actually targeting the Gulf, like so Iran's attacking
the Gulf and Israel and Israelis are attacking the Gulf.
And there's now arguments that the refineries were actually
bombed by Israel as well.
And this isn't new.
If you go back, there's a history of this,
whether it's the King David Hotel in the Palestine mandate,
whether it's, you know, Operation Ezra and Nama'a in Iraq.
When Zionists went to Iraq and bombed, you know, in 1950,
1948, they bombed a synagogue and a Jewish cafe cafe,
because they wanted the 150,000 Jews who'd been living there
for thousands of years to move to Israel.
And they were quite happy there.
So they had to, you know, make them think that they were unsafe.
And this, this is a, you know, verifiable, you know, false flag event on themselves.
They also did something in Egypt.
I don't know if you know about the Levant affair in 1954.
You know, there's a history of these Zionist agents attacking their own,
attacking British libraries in Egypt, American cinemas in Egypt
to target their own Jewish population and to make them go right.
You need to come to Israel to be safe.
This false flag thing.
And some people would say the same, the goat, staked goat green flag of October 7th.
There's a history of this.
And I find that absolutely incredulous and that no one in the West
is actually calling this out now and saying, what is it?
These are meant to be our greatest allies.
And actually, they're putting American lives, British lives now in jeopardy.
And, OK, so can I just jump in there because there's a point of an extent
to which I'm feeling uncomfortable with what you say.
There's no question that there's projection of false information
and propaganda by both sides and any war.
And I have this developed this sort of uncanny valley sensibility
that where a lot of the material I look at, I see straight away as just being fake.
And that's not only from the US or Israeli side of the affair,
also from the Iranian side of the affair, I can see straight away.
This is nonsense. This is construct.
So I expect to see it.
It's a it's a normal feature of war.
What I don't like is the impact on the lives of ordinary Iranians
and on the lives of ordinary Israelis, because many of them will die in this conflict, too.
And what I try to convince people of is that those ordinary Iranians
and those ordinary Israelis have a common enemy.
A great enemy is transatlantic capital.
That world is depraved beyond all belief.
It operates. I don't know whether they sincerely believe
the intellectual rationalizations of the of the global globalist architecture or not
because as far as I can tell their criminality is such that I wouldn't put it past them
to believe as I do that centralization is uniformly harmful.
But to carry on with it, because their actual end is destruction.
They may believe in something to do with depopulation or
degrowth or something like that was with, you know, they may privilege
the position of control over the position of human flourishing
to an extent that you and I can't even begin to imagine.
So I don't know whether they believe in that intellectual architecture
they've created or not, but it's wrong.
It is fundamentally depraved.
And that is the shared enemy.
Of people all over the world.
I don't know what percentage of the earth is not covered by these people.
I don't I can't make up my mind whether Russia and China
have have meaningful sovereignty in this regard.
I think maybe North Korea does and maybe Cuba does and maybe, you know,
but these are these are nations that have been punished for decades
and which hardly count in the broader scheme of things.
But when it comes to nations like China and Russia.
I do have to scratch my head a bit.
But whatever the answer is.
These freaks are in control of the show right now.
And they're the common common enemy.
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Absolutely. And I agree with all of that.
So listen, the enemy of man is government.
So that's where I'm statism.
Statism is a religion.
And I had this brilliant guest on my show.
I don't know if you've ever heard of him.
This pen name is Etienne Dula Bueti, number two.
Have you ever heard of Etienne Dula Bueti?
Yes. Yes.
Which just showed me the book again.
Government, the biggest scam in history.
Yeah. So he writes on Sub-State.
But do you know who the original Etienne Dula Bueti?
I think what's the organization called again?
Let's give them a plug, because I think there seems to be books as well.
Art of Liberty or something like that.
Yes, something like that.
Or the Liberty Foundation or.
Yeah, I'll tell you what I can do is quickly
just check my email box for that name.
So can I can I can I just tell you about him?
So basically, so do you know about
the original Etienne?
Do you know anything about him?
It's the Art of Liberty Foundation, by the way.
Art of Liberty Foundation.
Yes. So the original Etienne.
The original Etienne lived in the 1500s in France.
He was a philosopher.
I think he died in his 30s.
But when he was just 20, when he was just 20,
he wrote a book called The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude.
And he argued that man
himself voluntarily gave away his freedom and service
and and and served the tyrants, that the tyrants
were not the ones using force to oppress man.
We voluntarily just gave our powers away.
And he said, you know, and he wrote a discourse about, you know, stop doing this.
This is how we do it.
And it's not just the tyrants at the top.
We have to accept our role in this as well.
You know, it's not all their fault.
Like we we participate in this.
We allow this.
And it's just amazing that five, six hundred years later,
we're still having the same conversation.
We're still we're still doing this.
We're still serving the tyrants like this, which is just amazing.
Anyway, this guy, this fellow, the latest incarnation of Etienne,
his name is actually Howard Lichtman.
He's amazing.
He was adopted when he was just six days old by a Jewish family,
lovely Jewish family.
And he's been brought up Jewish.
He in his culture, his friends, his family, everybody.
And so no one can accuse him of being anti-Semitic,
but he passionately argues and he's stated on the podcast.
Look, the reality is we're now being run by a cabal, a mafia
organization at the top, a criminal trans global organization
that is on the face of it, Jewish, but they are not Jewish religious.
And they then employ Kapos from the Jewish networks
and but that's not to say all Jews are bad, just like not all Italians are bad.
There's an Italian mafia, there's an Albanian mafia.
There's, you know, an East London, whatever mafia, you know,
there are mafias everywhere.
But right now the argument he's saying is
that the mafia is superficially Jewish.
And the problem is most Jewish people now don't appreciate that
and are fearful of criticising them
because they feel like they're criticising their own tribe.
Just like most doctors are fearful of speaking out against the medical
profession because they're calling out their own people.
And actually what we need to do is realise these are not Jewish people.
These are not religious people. This is not the religion.
This is not it's not all Muslims.
It's not all Christians.
It's just a cabal of really bad, evil, satanic people that are doing this.
It's so clear to me that these are people who possess no loyalty
to creed or culture.
And I think I think you you might even go further and say
they they might claim a nominal degree of Jewishness
so that they can hide behind the barrier
afforded by the slur of anti-Semitism.
I mean, yes, the Rothschild family, for example, Ariane Roth, the Rothschild,
who was mentioned five and a half thousand times in the Epstein files
is not is but by birth not Jewish.
And when she married into the Rothschild family, declined to convert to Magai.
She she kind of stated out of herself as an atheist.
Nathaniel Rothschild, I think is I might be right in saying that
his wife, mother, maybe even his grandmother are not Jewish,
which as far as most user concern makes him not Jewish.
I mean, to call the Rothschilds Jewish at this stage,
I think just just because they have in the past supported Israel
is is a bit silly.
I mean, you know, the support of Israel was for geopolitical strategic reasons,
a way to destabilize the Middle East and ensure that they can continue
to rape that place as well as they rape South Africa, you know.
You know, we you've got to stop thinking about them
and or allowing people to tell you that that you're criticizing Jews.
And they're very interesting thing for me the other day.
I sat in a debate and it wasn't a screams debate.
This was in a private discussion.
And I found myself quoting the following people,
Rothbard von von Misses von Hayek,
Friedman and von Neumann and David Deutsch.
And I suddenly realized and this is in defense of liberty
in in to attack centralization.
I'm quoting these people.
And I suddenly sat back and realized,
what are we actually even fighting about?
All six of those people are Jewish and properly Jewish, you know.
And so the greatest defendants of decentralization,
the greatest intellectual defenders of decentralization
and civil liberties of localization and community.
Are a bunch of Jews.
And we will be thankful to them.
And so, no, I'm not going to be told that that being against
globalization and being against bankers is somehow anti-Semitic.
When I arm myself with an intellectual shield and spear.
That is deeply and pervasively Jewish
and attack people who are only superficially Jewish.
Absolutely, I don't want to go down this rabbit hole anymore because we're done.
We're done.
Yeah, we're done. We're done.
So let's tell me, where do you think this is going to go now with Iran?
Like, do you think this is just a little bit proxy war?
Do you think this is just like, you know, they're going to stop now,
not proxy war, like a little, you know, fake war?
Or do you think they're going to go full on?
Do you think this is going to be like an Iraq invasion?
Do you think this is the beginning of World War Three?
What are we dealing with here?
Yeah, it's always tough to analyze at the time.
But we have a couple of common characteristics.
First of all, there's a fake argument about weapons of mass destruction.
There's an argument advanced around the tyrannical nature of a regime.
And so those are the sort of the that's the castle's belly, if you like,
being advanced here.
But what can we say about other other examples of recent wars?
Well, in the case of the Syrian campaign, there was a regime change,
but they replaced a type of regime with the worst one
and ensured ongoing instability in that country in probably indefinite.
This was multi-generational stuff that they're dealing with now
no matter what is done.
There's there's also a vein of understanding that that needs to go
around the the the objectives of this elite,
parasitic elite in terms of creating what they term a multipolar world.
And there's there's there's a balance of power issues,
for example, the fact that China gets most of its oil from Iran and so on,
that that that might be being addressed in this in this program.
There are stories going around the question of the the independence
from the Rothschild Central Bank in cartel of the Iranian Central Bank.
And that's not something I've looked into very deeply.
I don't understand the the governance of the of Iran's Central Bank at all.
And then there is there are stories of, you know,
that cast it in terms of the the the
language of the Crusades and of religious conflict and so on.
So there are all these arguments being thrown around and more.
I'm sure if I took a deep breath,
I could give you another five minutes of arguments, actually,
that I've heard people advancing.
And it could be that all of those are in play
for different factions who are supportive of this campaign.
And it would then depend on which of those factions are dominant in the hierarchy.
Unlike you, I don't see it as an organization sitting at the top of the world.
I see it more as a class of people
with with conflicting ambitions and reasons and and
into nice even conflicts from time to time.
And you know, people who are so greedy and so criminal
that that I'm sure they would stab any anybody from an outside group
who happens to be in the same class in the back at the moment's notice
if they saw the opportunity, if they saw.
I think I think the same thing.
I don't think there's an organization at all.
I think there's very powerful families and an interest and networks.
I think that's what you have.
I don't think there's like one single controlling.
OK, I already picked up on it
because you used that you might have inadvertently used the term organization just now.
So what I'm going, what I'm leading to here is that this could be a forever war.
You know, they were like the Ukraine situation
where it suits the holding pattern suits transnational capital.
Or it could be a situation where they go, oh, we've miscalculated.
If we carry on with this, Tel Aviv is going to get smoked and we don't want that.
And then they found a way to navigate towards a quick off ramp.
Or it could be that China turns around and makes a move that they hadn't predicted
and says, look, if you don't open up the Straits of Hormuz
and if you don't settle this and reopen the Straits of Hormuz like tomorrow,
then we are going to do this, you know.
So, so I think it's a brave man who would make predictions about the likely to get here.
And I don't think it's worth spending too much time on it
because the problem is so multifaceted.
What can we learn from the situation?
Well, if you had your hopes in Trump and we're a great maggot supporter,
you've just revealed yourself that the world has just revealed you
to have been sadly diluted somewhere between a goldfish and an idiot.
And you need to, this is a time to pause and reflect.
Trump is not saving you.
No government is here to save you.
No globalist is here to save you.
This is a time to reflect.
The man stood on the stage, saying he didn't need to go to war with Iran.
Just a few months ago, he told everyone that he had terminated Iran's nuclear campaign.
His own head of the intelligence agencies was formed rather recently,
denying that Iran posed any kind of nuclear threat.
The head of the United Nations Inspectorate has come out saying
there is no sign of a nuclear program.
You know, so are these people to be believed?
Absolutely, are we to believe them then and not now or now and not then?
Of course, in the great world of fabrication and fakery, AI fakes,
and speeches thrust into the hands of nominal leaders who are actually puppets,
you know, it is very difficult to know what people genuinely believe
and what the facts of the on the ground actually are.
I caution people all the time not to respond to the headlines
no matter how horrifying or on which side of the debate they may be receiving them from, you know.
Absolutely. I think part of it is they want you to be emotional.
They want you to be taking sides.
They want you enraged.
That's how they capture you.
And actually, the best thing to do is to stand back like an observer.
And as hard as that sounds to be dispassionate and almost robotic,
just look at things as an observer.
Don't get emotionally involved because that's what they want to do.
They want to suck you in and they want you picking sides and fighting amongst each other.
This argument, that argument.
This is the case.
This is the case because all the time you're doing that,
you're distracted from the real enemy.
You're not looking at really who is controlling us and what they're doing to us.
So I 100% agree with you.
And it's just like, I just don't know how we're going to get out of this.
We're talking about things like stable coins and tokenization,
stuff that we didn't know about 10 years ago.
All these financial instruments and all this control grid just seems to be being made
every single day.
You've got data that AI center is being made all the time.
And it's so ridiculous.
It's in your face to talk about climate change and CO2 emissions.
But the biggest thing, the biggest growth right now on CO2 emissions
and energy consumption are all these massive data centers which are required for this constant
surveillance control grid that they're building.
And it's like, which is it?
Do we have climate change or not?
Do we want to cut emissions or not?
Because if we want to cut emissions, why are we making all these data centers?
And I think it's more than just money.
If it was about money, they print all the money.
They have all the money already, these bankers, these transgloblists,
whatever you want to call them.
What is that about?
What are they doing?
And how do we get out of this mess?
The pessimistic person would say, we never do.
This is the nature of the world.
And it's only owing to the fact that we are born into an information age
that we are able to pierce its fail and see the real nature of power.
I think that's the pessimistic answer that it was ever thus and it will continue and we find a way.
I have a more optimistic bent.
I think this is a wave of unusual centralization and accretion of power.
But centralization is its own undoing.
It's a modestly optimistic prognosis for the reason that in the process of the undoing of
centralization, great harm will be done.
There will be immense suffering.
So then your program should be to ignore what is going on and focus on your local community
and on building yourself, on making sure that your skill set is not too balkanized.
Because that's one of the things that this managerial world does to a great many people.
It causes them to specialize to an extraordinary degree so that they become outside of a very
narrow terms of reference.
They become entirely useless to man or beast.
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