Welcome back to the Neurospiritual Awakening podcast with Dr. Val.
I am your host and today on the show we have an incredible, courageous, one of the most
inspiring women I know.
Welcome to the podcast, Max Lohan.
Wow.
Thank you for that intro, Val.
I'm glad to be here.
Absolutely.
It is the truth for me and it is my honor that you're here.
And before I let you introduce yourself, however you want to do that, I let my people introduce
themselves really because you know a lot more about yourself than I do.
But before you do, I just want to thank you for being here and thank you for everything
that you do for the world, what you've done for me, you know, and for the people.
Just really, really massive thank you.
Yeah.
Well, I'm honored that, you know, you're having me and thanks so highly of me.
You know, I'm just me, I did survive some fairly out of this world atrocities, you
know, grew up for 18 years under satanic ritual abuse.
I was trafficked as a child.
I was taken often to underground facility in Rome where I was tortured in various ways.
So things like electric shock, being buried alive with dead bodies, water boarding, you
know, being forced to watch the torture and murder of animals and people being kept isolated
in cages, you know, extremes like in freezers or in very hot environments in technology,
you know, MK ultra type stuff.
So pretty much everything you can imagine I was put through and I was that facility
connected through underground tunnels to the very subterranean levels of the Vatican.
And so I was taken there often and I have witnessed them brutalizing and then sacrificing
babies and children.
They have a special altar down there, they have a room.
It would be in attendance by like pups and bishops and VIPs of every industry.
And it's a big it's a big deal.
And when the child is sacrificed, it's their cut will bend while they're alive.
And so the blood is collected in these chalices.
They drink it.
Sometimes they'll pluck out the heart and eat it.
But that's Satanism.
They're cannibalistic and they drink blood.
And so what I can tell you from many experiences with the Vatican, other than that as well
is they are satanic.
They worship Lucifer for for a fact.
I was trafficked from there to sometimes given to people, the different elites.
Sometimes it would be parties.
Sometimes if you've ever seen the movie Eyes Wide Shut, some of those parties look like that.
The only thing missing in that movie is the children brought into the party
so that people can pick whatever age or gender or race they want.
Sometimes they were hunting parties on grounds so outdoors
and we would have to run and hide in the woods.
And then they would hunt us again like that other movie.
I forgot Hunger Games Hunger Games, right?
Like a kind of, yeah, they don't quite show that level of it.
But yeah, so things of that nature,
you know, if anyone wants to see the testimony of other
SRA survivors, go to 50voices.org.
They have done little 15 minute interviews with a bunch of us.
And you'll hear very similar stories.
So it's something I decided to expose a few years ago,
starting with my own story.
Then it evolved to me doing interviews like you're doing
and interviewing people who expose really all aspects
of the global satanic cult that runs this planet.
I aim to give people the information that they need.
We're all deeply mind controlled in this world.
I've done seminars on mind control on the real Vatican behind the scenes
on satanic ritual abuse if people want to purchase those.
The recordings are on my website.
I'm also trained as a trauma therapist.
So I've done my own trauma work.
I help other people do that work.
And so for me, basically the reason I call my website unbroken,
if you're born in this reality,
you're going to go through some degree of trauma.
It's just a continuum.
I mean, maybe I'm on this extreme, but we all go through it.
And I do think that we can unbreak ourselves.
I think the winning formula is to do our inner work,
our trauma work,
and to learn the truth about how the world really operates
because like I said, we've been heavily mind controlled in every way.
And I think once we do that and I see it happening,
I see consciousness rising.
And I think we are here on this planet now,
you and I and everyone who's awake
deliberately because we're in a moment of massive transition.
They have tried to do yet another reset.
They've reset humanity many times and this time it's failing.
And we are going to go forward from this hell on earth reality
to a whole different way of being.
And that's my purpose.
That's what I want to do is everything I can to number one,
expose the atrocities they are still doing to children,
like what they did to me.
And to really encourage people to do their own work
and get an understanding of how the world works
because it's up to us and we absolutely have the power
to free ourselves from this situation
and move into something much better.
Wow.
What an intro at that.
Oh my gosh.
I mean, okay, thanks.
The interview is now over.
All my questions have been asked.
I mean, seriously, I'm just like,
I'm speechless obviously.
I kind of find the words to say,
to respond to you introducing yourself.
And some of the listeners may be there too
because although this podcast is about the awakening process
for human beings,
I find that every guest that I have on the show
has a different flavor, I would say or call it
or a different version of the awakening process.
And sometimes we go through multiple processes,
awakening processes throughout our lives.
And for me, yeah, for me,
when I heard your interview with Georgina Grace,
I think it was a year over year ago
and you mentioned some of the things that you just mentioned.
I was like, you know, I was so naive.
I was like, really, I can't believe this is happening.
And the only reason I could relate to what you were saying
is because I'm a neuroscientist and neuropsychologist.
So I know this sounds really primitive,
but I was there just a year ago, myself.
And I've learned, I'll give myself that, I've learned.
I've learned and I'm open to learning
and just, I guess, being getting with it
with the reality of what's going on
rather than pretending like it's not,
you know, or just like, yeah, pretending that it's not.
So hopefully if you're listening to this,
you'll find yourself in that place.
Or if you haven't, that's fine too,
but get yourself there because it's real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is what I wanted to say.
And also the courage that it takes
to speak about things like that
when the world sort of isn't really working that way.
Can you say a little bit more about that?
Like, when did you decide, like, you know what,
I've had enough of this, buckery.
I swear a lot, my podcast listeners know that.
Good, okay, I'm right at home then.
Good, so yeah, when you've had enough of that buckery
and like you're doing the things that you're doing now,
like when, what happened for you?
You know, I have to say,
if I go back to the very, very beginning
when I was a small child,
I had some kind of defiant part in me,
which is why I'm alive.
So I did overhear them when I was very small
talking about, you know, they use us for our light
because the people that run the world,
their psychopaths, their pedophiles,
their satanists and their parasites.
They're severed from the life force
from the true creator, God's source.
So they cannot create anything.
So they have to use us and our energy
and life force and light to create this hell on earth,
which is the good news,
the bad news, but it's really the good news
because we don't have to create this
that we have now, we can create something else.
So when I was very small,
I overheard them saying, you know,
we're going to use her light and her being and power to,
you know, we're going to convert her to the dark side
and use her.
And that right away something,
they should never have said that
because something in me was like, oh hell no, never.
So it's something that I held on to
so they could do all that they, you know,
I had no power.
I was a child.
They could do whatever they wanted,
but they couldn't quite snuff that out.
And, you know, then I grew up,
I went out, I got away when I was 18.
I came to the United States.
I went to university and graduate schools
and everything and I worked.
And I was always in a process of healing.
And, you know, then I had a daughter
and I had that experience of being a mother.
So I learned that was more healing, more love.
And I went through my own work.
So I did a decade of deep, deep healing work.
It was very painful, you know,
honestly it was brutal.
Just a shade less brutal
than what I had already experienced and gone through.
So that was pretty rough.
And for a few years after that,
I was kind of, you know, kind of recovering from all that work.
But it really, doing that deep inner work really freed me.
It put all the pieces of the puzzle together.
I was suddenly, you know, recovered myself.
And a few years, some years after that,
I got to the point where I thought,
I remember actually saying,
what the fuck God,
children are still being raped and trafficked
and satanically abused.
Like I was like, this can't exist on earth.
And then I heard this,
okay, we'll then do something about it.
And I was like, what am I supposed to do?
You know, we'll talk about it.
So I thought, oh shit, I have to tell my story, don't I?
I'm naturally kind of more shy, introverted.
So just if you had told me 10 years ago,
I would be on camera doing what I've been doing the last few years.
I would have laughed in your face, you know, like no.
But I didn't interview.
I told my story.
And then it just kind of evolved from there.
I began to interview other people.
And I have to say, as a side effect,
I met some incredible,
there are some incredible human beings on this planet.
You know, those of us who are awake are not alone.
There's more and more and people are doing really amazing work
in many, many different ways, right?
So it took me a while to get to the point where I felt reluctantly,
but I started to tell my story.
And at first, every time I would talk
or every time even I would interview other people,
they do a lot of programming with satanic ritual abuse.
So I had a lot of programs that would open up and backlash internally.
Like I would even in the interviews I would sweat.
I'd have to like peel my clothes off after the interview.
My legs were shaking.
I mean, you couldn't see it on camera.
I would come across pretty composed, but I was terrified.
Parts of me were terrified because I had been told,
if you ever speak out,
we're going to hunt you down and kill you.
And we're going to kill everyone you love.
So, you know, those things are in there
and sometimes they activate and come up
when you start to do the things that are forbidden.
So it was a process.
I can tell you that years, a few years later, like today,
it's not that way.
I've overcome that.
Okay.
We are back.
Obviously they didn't like what was being said.
So we got bumped off, but here we are again, back at it.
Speaking the truth.
So Max, would you please so kindly just say maybe the last few
sentences of what you were saying before?
Yeah, I was, I was kind of describing the internal process
of speaking out and how hard it was at first,
because it activated programming in me that was put in me.
Like you, you better not say anything or reveal what happened
or else, you know.
So it was really hard at first.
Every time I was interviewed and even every time I interviewed
other people, I would be sweating during the interview.
Luckily no one could see my armpits.
I would be shaking sometimes.
I would wake up those nights after interviews,
like with panic and going, oh shit, what did I say?
Like I said too much.
So it's a process and fast forward a few years later to today.
It's, it's okay.
Like I can be here with you and be fine.
But you asked kind of like what that process was like.
And so internally it was, it was a little challenging at first,
but you know, I don't like to be kept down and those bastards
will not shut me up.
So I just pushed through until it became easy.
Again, so, so inspiring.
And I hope it inspires the people that are listening that,
you know, may find themselves wherever on the spectrum of
speaking out and speaking their truth, whatever their
experience may be.
You know, there's your experience, which is just,
you know, horrific and very specific.
And then there's other experiences, you know.
So I hope the listeners can find themselves and you're sharing
and, you know, get, get the courage to speak, to speak.
Yeah.
Because there's so much power.
I used to think, again, I used to think due to my own
programming that, oh, my voice doesn't matter.
You know, I'm just one person.
What can I do?
Nothing interesting about me.
And then here we are running this podcast and it's like,
fuck knows who's listening, but you know what?
My intention is that it ripples through and has an effect on
people's lives and on the trajectory of this planet.
That's my intention anyway.
And I think it's worth speaking for.
Yeah.
And, you know, I want to say something to what you said about
being a mom.
That is something that's devalued in our world because the
creatures at the top of the pyramid are very patriarchal.
But think about it this way though.
We take a soul from a different realm and we bring it into our
bodies and make a body for it and bring it into this reality.
There's nothing more badass than that in the whole wide
world.
Okay.
So to be a mother in a normal society would be the top tier,
like greatest thing that people can do on this planet.
So don't ever feel, they do minimize us, but no.
Yeah.
And thank you for saying that.
It's definitely been my experience more and more so.
And I think more people are speaking about it like that,
or at least the people I follow on my socials are like real,
you know, real like moms with, with guts.
And we're bringing forth this new era of what a mother
is.
And it's just what you just said.
I mean, look, I have a PhD in neuroscience, you know,
I've done some shit in my life, but being a mother is like a whole,
it a whole other game, like really, really like it.
I don't.
Yeah.
I've just become.
No, a PhD cannot prepare you for motherhood.
It's, it's peanuts compared to motherhood.
Not even if you just talk about the physical.
I mean, you know, when your belly is as big as a
freaking house and you can barely walk and then like in childbirth
and then the sleepless years after, I mean, yeah, it's, you know,
it's the one time in our lives when we're parents where I think
it's a, it's the biggest spiritual evolution a human can go through
because you, you have to selflessly be there for this little
beautiful innocent being that has come into the world through
us.
And you have to give up literally your sleep, your body,
your showers, sometimes your life for, for several years to,
you know, if you're doing it right, it's, it's really much harder
than it's the, of course, than they show in the movies, but it's
also, as you know, the biggest love that you will ever feel
is the love that you feel for your children.
And it's, you know, it's a sacred thing to bring little
beings into this world because there are future, you know.
Hmm.
Yeah.
I'm just present to that now.
It's, it's pretty amazing.
It is a, it is a privilege for sure.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, let me ask you this question going back to you being,
how do you get born into what you got born into?
Like how do you get born into SRA and all that stuff?
It starts happening.
Like how, I mean, I'm, you know, you can talk about it
from whatever, like you can say my soul chose this or
what it, like however you want to say it, it's totally up to you,
but how does that happen?
Well, there's many layers of that answer.
So the first one, since you referenced it is I do recall,
I have memories of pre incarnation of being at some kind of
meeting, galactic meeting where there were other human
looking beings, but different varieties and discussing planet
earth and what was going on here.
And from what I remember, this planet was super significant to
what was happening all over the universe.
And so the discussion was around how it had been captured by the
dark.
And so I volunteered and many people volunteered, you know,
I'm not, I'm not special or different, but from my perspective,
I volunteered and I decided to incarnate into one of the
darker places on earth and be involved, which is the
Vatican, you know?
And so when you're outside of a planet that is of a low
frequency and dealing with this kind of darkness, you cannot
interfere.
It's against universal law, but you can incarnate, go into the
shit, survive it, heal from it, and then speak about it and
expose it from that perspective, right?
So that's what I chose to do.
How do we get some of, some, there are, okay, there's different
tiers.
So there's the bloodline families.
So big names like the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds
and the Vanderbilts and the Black nobility families and
whatnot.
So these, even children born in these families, they will
put them through ritual abuse because they're grooming these
children for specific roles in the global hierarchy when they
grow up.
And so the, the satanic ritual abuse is to create so much
trauma that splits the child and then the child can be
programmed with certain altars that, or certain ways to
ensure that they do their job for the cult later on.
So as an example, some of the programming can be like
people who are assassinate, like the lone wolves who
supposedly assassinated like JFK or other presidents or
big figures in history.
They were MKUltra.
They were put through this kind of abuse to create an alter
that when a certain time or date or trigger word or
sentence, they go out and they execute the test.
So similarly, any leaders you see like the president of the
United States or the president of Canada or the prime
minister of here, they will be, or the global agency people,
they will be groomed from small childhood for this role.
So they will become from these families that are
generationally satanic and they will be put through this.
Then there's like other tiers, more lower tiers where
there's just certain families that have been through this
and they pass it on to their children.
There's a factor that they can also identify certain
beings who incarnate, who have a lot of light and then
they target those children specifically.
It can be accidental.
Like they're always, the cult is always looking for talent.
So for example, I don't know, like for example,
Justin Bieber, this little boy who has a great singing
voice and he auditions and he's got star potential.
He didn't grow up in that, but they'll say,
oh, we can use this kid and then they'll suck him in.
And then he, you know, as people can probably see,
has been put through a ton of abuse once he entered
that sort of Hollywood sphere, which is full of this stuff.
So it can be many different ways that you get into it.
And lastly, I'll say like, for example,
my friend Kathy O'Brien, who's a survivor of MKUltra,
she got into it because her father was a pedophile
and was molesting her and making child porn.
And back in the day, he was mailing it out and he got caught.
And so this is very classic, very typical.
They said to him, well, if you give us your daughter
for MKUltra, then we won't prosecute you for this.
And in fact, you know, we'll give you a lot of money.
And so they, anyone who's naturally a pedophile
or naturally doing something negative or dark
will be sucked in and recruited as well.
So it's a whole variety of ways.
Thank you.
That definitely answers that question.
And how can you...
Okay, well, I mean, this is the next primitive thing to us.
How do you get out?
Okay, you're now in.
How the fuck do you get out?
Well, some people don't get out.
It kind of depends.
You know, there are sadly a lot of people,
a lot of young women who are used as breeders.
So they will be impregnated and birth children
that will be used to traffic or to sacrifice.
And they're usually kept locked up
and then they die from the raping and the breeding.
There's children that don't make it
because they're considered expendable.
And then there's others that, you know, like myself,
a little less, you know, not quite as expendable.
So, you know, part of the family.
In my case, my father was not part of this
and he was American.
So I was always destined to come to America for university.
And I also, myself, when I was 18,
I just got to a point where I...
I don't know, something came in me,
some power of who I am.
And I just said, that's it, bitches, I'm done.
You will not touch me anymore.
I'm not going to be willing to do this.
And see, they train us in many abilities, okay?
They train us in psychic abilities.
And, you know, if you ever saw the children's show,
The Last Airbender, it's really cute to watch.
But it's true, like they can train us with the elements.
And so we become weaponized
because that's what the cult wants to put out
onto the world, weaponized people to do this, that, or the other.
And so when you turn on that and you say,
I'm not doing it anymore,
it's a bit of a problem because now you're weaponized
and, yeah, you're not consenting to be used by them anymore.
And you're not...
You could be sort of somewhat dangerous, I guess, to them, so to speak.
So I was able to go.
And it's not to say I haven't been harassed since I left,
but I changed my name.
I moved away.
I, you know, dove into my life.
And, you know, now that I've been speaking out
and I get energetic attacks and things,
but, you know, I've already survived the impossible.
Like, you know, nothing's going to shut me up now.
I always say, I've said on other interviews,
if they want to kill me,
my mouth will be talking until my last breath.
Yeah.
Well, literally, literally,
you've survived the unthinkable and now what?
But also very like, wow.
You know, there you are.
They're not everybody's like you, so that's the thing.
And I've had Rachel Vaughn and Alandra on the show already.
You know, they've spoken about their process,
but again, it's vastly different.
And, yeah, yeah, that's, that's all.
As I said, I'm still speechless because these are things
that don't get usually get talked about, you know, that I don't,
I mean, in your circles and obviously I've been on some of your
do meetings and stuff.
It's kind of what we speak about,
but people in the world aren't really talking about it.
And, you know, I think they should because it's real.
Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, people don't know and that's part of it.
And I dearly love Rachel.
She's an, you know, probably my best friend and I adore Alandra.
And this is what's so heartening, Val, is that not only did they
not silence us or render us so incapacitated that we can't
recover and heal, but we're speaking out.
So the programming didn't really work.
We broke it, you know, and here we are.
It's their worst nightmare.
And there's so many survivors speaking out.
It's really amazing.
I never thought I would see anything like this.
And if you understand SRA, you're going to understand
how the world works.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I'm starting to, and it's like, it's wild, but it's real.
Again, I keep on saying it's real because at some point it was
like not real.
And then it became real for me as a person who wasn't, you know,
aware of any of this a couple of years ago.
And, well, and, and you're also doing it through a bunch of
offerings.
Like you're speaking, you're obviously invited to all these
things that you just told me about these conferences, which is
amazing.
You've been part of a bunch of interviews, but then you also
offer educational courses and seminars on this.
So people can educate themselves.
So if you're listening to this and you're like, oh, well, like,
where do I go from here?
So where do people go from here?
If they want to learn and be, be aware.
Yeah.
Well, I have a website on broken.global.
I have, I don't know, over a hundred interviews with all,
like I said, amazing people who have whistleblown this,
that and the other, a lot of survivor interviews.
There's a lot of interviews of me and I have begun to
teach seminars.
And so right now there's three mind control seminar,
a satanic ritual abuse, like what is it seminar,
and a seminar exposing the Vatican.
I'm going to continue to do seminars.
So people, when I offer them, they can join live,
which is really fun because then we have a great
discussion and Q and A afterwards.
But if you miss it, you can also watch the recording later.
So if people go to my website under classes,
they can find those.
They're very low priced and, you know,
I think one of the main things to really learn and understand
is mind control because we are all mind controlled through
the educational system, through the media, you know,
through every system we're poisoned, you know,
with the, the poison, the air, the water, the food,
the farmers, everything in this reality,
the frequencies, the EMFs, the, it's all like this assault
on the human being.
They want to keep us devolved low consciousness in a frequency
bandwidth that we call survival.
And if you think about it, you look out there,
they have engineered scarcity.
They have engineered poverty.
None of that's natural on this planet.
And that is because these creatures,
as Rachel calls them, and I love that,
they can only succeed with secrecy and deception
and with keeping us in a frequency bandwidth
that they can control us in.
Once we do our work and we learn the truth,
truth is a frequency, it's light.
We rise to a frequency, to a consciousness
where we're out of their reach.
They're of the dark.
They can only operate in this.
If you look at Hawkins scale of consciousness
at the higher frequencies, you know, love, peace,
whatever, that's out of their control.
And so that's the goal.
We could get to a point where this shit doesn't
even exist at all.
Yeah.
And that's the, I imagine that's the point.
Yeah.
So anyway, if you understand mind control,
then you begin to, our minds,
they don't need to use any kind of force
because they have the prison around our minds.
But when we take that off and see clearly,
that's, now each person that frees their mind
is no longer under these people's control.
So, yeah, so there's a lot of resources on my website.
And then, you know, satanic ritual abuse is really a very,
you know, deep and profound trauma
and something, you know, difficult to recover from,
but definitely you can recover from it.
So if people need help with trauma,
then they can also on my website look under services
and I, you know, I work with people one-on-one.
And as you know, because you're part of the group,
I created this community.
It's, you can become an unbroken warrior, we call it, you know,
and we meet every month on Zoom.
We have some great laughs.
We curse, we talk about, it's like a group of people
that are awake.
It's so refreshing, isn't it?
To be around other people and you can talk about
all the real stuff without having people look at you
like you have, you know, three heads or something.
So, yeah.
So basically, unbroken.glo.
So good.
And yeah, I love being part of that group and the conversations
that we get to have really, really just empowering
and fun and revealing and yeah, no bullshit.
No bullshit.
Yeah, no bullshit.
You bring a lot of humor to them, by the way.
You really crack us all up.
Thank you.
It is, you know, hey, that's how I roll.
I just lost my train of thought.
Oh, I was going to say, oh, I was going to say, right?
The survival mode that we're in, because as a neuroscientist,
you have learned a bunch of things about the brain,
but particularly my PhD was on the way that the brain
processes fear and anxiety related behavior.
And it was all on the limbic system,
the different parts of the limbic system.
And now that I'm going through my awakening process,
it's kind of an ongoing thing.
I'm realizing like, oh, wow, these structures,
you know, the limbic system that's primordial,
it's been evolutionarily conserved across species,
across time, has completely been programmed to be in survival.
Like that's what we get taught.
Oh, the limbic system for survival.
But I'm like, yeah, but the limbic system is also for love.
Like that's how you experience love.
The maternal bond comes from the amygdala, you know,
the maternal bonding also comes from the limbic system.
So why is it that we're educated that the limbic system
is all about survival and it's bad?
It's more the brainstem that's wired for survival.
You know, to me, the limbic system, like you said,
it's about attachment and love also.
And you know, because you're a neuroscientist,
our brain doesn't finish growing until we're like 25.
So that's why children have parents,
because they don't have a cortex yet.
Their highest brain functioning at some point
is the limbic system, which is also emotional reactivity,
impulsivity.
You know, it's not a great type of brain structure
to operate in reality from.
But what you're saying, I love that.
And I want to hear kind of what you think about this.
But from my understanding, I did my masters in neuropsychs.
So similar.
These people know how our psychology and our neurology
work.
So what they've done, if you look out into the world,
everything is fear.
The boogeyman.
It's a virus.
It's a terrorist.
It's something.
It's always something.
It's a climate thing.
And so they keep us in fear because when you're in fear,
your brain is in survival.
It shuts down the cortex and the prefrontal cortex
because thinking takes too many seconds.
So in a real danger situation, you have to react.
Fight or flight, you know.
So, but the brain doesn't distinguish between a real danger
and these pumping of fear based words or screen,
what's on the screen.
So they keep our cortex constantly shut down.
So we are reacting all the time.
And that's one of their main aspects of mind control.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I back that 100% near scientifically.
We are all in survival mode until we're not,
but primarily throughout the majority of our lives.
We are real threat or perceived threat is the same,
same brain.
Absolutely the same thing, whether it's a real lion
or whatever person's coming to stab you,
or it's, you know,
you think something's going to happen because it's been shown
to you 50,000 times as part of the programming.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
It's almost like they've rewired our brains
and captured them to live in constant fear and survival.
And that's why we are in a world that is a lot of survival.
You know, they've set it up that way.
But here's the good news.
It's the only way they can control us.
So once you rise out of that and realize, hell, no,
I'm not going to live in fear and survival.
You're not under their control anymore.
Totally.
And that's, I think, where I was leading to as well is
despite all this fuckery,
that word keeps on coming back.
But despite all this good fuckery, we are like, yeah,
thank you.
Thank you.
Very nearest scientific word.
Like we're just, we're not only surviving,
but we're now like what I can feel and understand is we're
starting to thrive.
Like, you know, we're actually starting to thrive.
Yeah, we're not like really fucking thriving yet.
But, but, you know, we're starting to thrive because.
Yeah.
Because we do get to experience amazing things.
And like just when we're not in survival mode,
we can feel the love and the peace.
Yeah, it's cars, it's here and there,
but you know, I can definitely distinguish one from the other,
which is great already.
Because hey, if you can't distinguish it, you're fucked.
Yeah.
Yeah, they don't like, you know, when you're a psychopath,
you're severed from your heart, which is,
I think where the soul kind of connects through in this
reality.
And so they don't understand love.
And that's what we have over them.
And if you think of all the abuse,
like the literal abuse they had,
they have heaped on us in the form of wars and child abuse
and scarcity and poverty and the weather warfare where they
flood here and they burn there and then they blame it on
climate change.
The assault is, I mean, it's a lot of effort.
It's a lot of money.
It's a lot of time.
Why?
Because we're actually inherently more powerful than them.
And also because we have love.
And we have that heart connection and that connection to the
creator, which is within, you know,
and they don't understand that and they're scared of that.
And so even with all the abuse that humans have suffered,
like there's an unnatural disaster.
And then what does everybody do?
They run out and help the other people.
That's the human soul.
That's the human being.
They cannot understand that and they cannot,
they have not been able.
Yeah.
Okay.
And some people,
but in most people they haven't beaten that out of us.
And that's what we're going to rise on is that aspect of us.
And you know,
goodbye because they don't even belong on this planet.
They need to leave.
True that.
Wow.
I think that's a perfect place to end the conversation.
But like,
I could keep talking to you for the next 50 hours,
but you know,
I might just go and watch the seminars instead so you can do,
get on with your life.
Oh, wow.
Thank you so much for again,
for your courage,
your inspiration,
for having this conversation with me and all the listeners that
are going to listen to it.
And just being, yeah,
just such a,
such a force and light.
Wow.
Thank you, Val.
You know,
we're all a force and a light.
And I would just encourage everyone to,
you know,
heal your trauma and remember who you are because we all came
here to be a part of this awakening.
And instead of a great reset,
it's a great awakening.
and so step into that because we,
we need as many people as we can and the faster,
the more people that do this,
the faster this shifts.
So, you know,
I, I'm just,
I'm,
I have faith in humanity.
Me too.
All right.
Well, thank you so much.
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