WEBVTT 00:19.020 --> 00:24.340 Welcome back to the Neurospiritual Awakening podcast with Dr. Val. 00:24.660 --> 00:30.460 I am your host and today on the show we have an incredible, courageous, one of the most 00:30.460 --> 00:32.400 inspiring women I know. 00:32.860 --> 00:35.460 Welcome to the podcast, Max Lohan. 00:36.140 --> 00:36.740 Wow. 00:37.220 --> 00:38.600 Thank you for that intro, Val. 00:39.500 --> 00:40.440 I'm glad to be here. 00:40.920 --> 00:41.520 Absolutely. 00:42.080 --> 00:47.060 It is the truth for me and it is my honor that you're here. 00:47.060 --> 00:52.660 And before I let you introduce yourself, however you want to do that, I let my people introduce 00:52.660 --> 00:56.740 themselves really because you know a lot more about yourself than I do. 00:57.360 --> 01:02.560 But before you do, I just want to thank you for being here and thank you for everything 01:02.560 --> 01:07.540 that you do for the world, what you've done for me, you know, and for the people. 01:07.700 --> 01:09.060 Just really, really massive thank you. 01:10.160 --> 01:10.640 Yeah. 01:10.640 --> 01:16.640 Well, I'm honored that, you know, you're having me and thanks so highly of me. 01:17.720 --> 01:25.600 You know, I'm just me, I did survive some fairly out of this world atrocities, you 01:25.600 --> 01:31.240 know, grew up for 18 years under satanic ritual abuse. 01:31.560 --> 01:33.260 I was trafficked as a child. 01:33.820 --> 01:44.100 I was taken often to underground facility in Rome where I was tortured in various ways. 01:44.580 --> 01:56.980 So things like electric shock, being buried alive with dead bodies, water boarding, you 01:56.980 --> 02:04.980 know, being forced to watch the torture and murder of animals and people being kept isolated 02:04.980 --> 02:13.020 in cages, you know, extremes like in freezers or in very hot environments in technology, 02:13.560 --> 02:15.420 you know, MK ultra type stuff. 02:15.420 --> 02:24.920 So pretty much everything you can imagine I was put through and I was that facility 02:24.920 --> 02:31.840 connected through underground tunnels to the very subterranean levels of the Vatican. 02:32.840 --> 02:41.720 And so I was taken there often and I have witnessed them brutalizing and then sacrificing 02:41.720 --> 02:43.100 babies and children. 02:43.300 --> 02:45.880 They have a special altar down there, they have a room. 02:46.930 --> 02:53.160 It would be in attendance by like pups and bishops and VIPs of every industry. 02:53.870 --> 02:55.660 And it's a big it's a big deal. 02:56.160 --> 03:00.420 And when the child is sacrificed, it's their cut will bend while they're alive. 03:00.680 --> 03:02.820 And so the blood is collected in these chalices. 03:03.060 --> 03:03.720 They drink it. 03:03.960 --> 03:06.440 Sometimes they'll pluck out the heart and eat it. 03:06.500 --> 03:07.400 But that's Satanism. 03:07.620 --> 03:09.680 They're cannibalistic and they drink blood. 03:11.000 --> 03:18.060 And so what I can tell you from many experiences with the Vatican, other than that as well 03:18.060 --> 03:19.940 is they are satanic. 03:19.940 --> 03:22.340 They worship Lucifer for for a fact. 03:23.400 --> 03:29.160 I was trafficked from there to sometimes given to people, the different elites. 03:29.900 --> 03:32.400 Sometimes it would be parties. 03:32.820 --> 03:38.140 Sometimes if you've ever seen the movie Eyes Wide Shut, some of those parties look like that. 03:38.580 --> 03:42.640 The only thing missing in that movie is the children brought into the party 03:42.640 --> 03:46.940 so that people can pick whatever age or gender or race they want. 03:47.700 --> 03:51.240 Sometimes they were hunting parties on grounds so outdoors 03:51.240 --> 03:53.520 and we would have to run and hide in the woods. 03:53.700 --> 03:57.380 And then they would hunt us again like that other movie. 03:57.780 --> 04:00.780 I forgot Hunger Games Hunger Games, right? 04:01.500 --> 04:05.100 Like a kind of, yeah, they don't quite show that level of it. 04:05.320 --> 04:08.100 But yeah, so things of that nature, 04:09.280 --> 04:14.380 you know, if anyone wants to see the testimony of other 04:14.380 --> 04:17.700 SRA survivors, go to 50voices.org. 04:18.320 --> 04:21.600 They have done little 15 minute interviews with a bunch of us. 04:21.860 --> 04:24.220 And you'll hear very similar stories. 04:24.680 --> 04:30.280 So it's something I decided to expose a few years ago, 04:30.440 --> 04:31.900 starting with my own story. 04:32.500 --> 04:35.440 Then it evolved to me doing interviews like you're doing 04:36.080 --> 04:39.360 and interviewing people who expose really all aspects 04:39.360 --> 04:42.440 of the global satanic cult that runs this planet. 04:43.520 --> 04:48.380 I aim to give people the information that they need. 04:48.620 --> 04:51.440 We're all deeply mind controlled in this world. 04:52.000 --> 04:56.900 I've done seminars on mind control on the real Vatican behind the scenes 04:56.900 --> 05:01.720 on satanic ritual abuse if people want to purchase those. 05:01.960 --> 05:03.460 The recordings are on my website. 05:04.420 --> 05:07.600 I'm also trained as a trauma therapist. 05:07.900 --> 05:09.720 So I've done my own trauma work. 05:09.900 --> 05:11.620 I help other people do that work. 05:12.660 --> 05:18.560 And so for me, basically the reason I call my website unbroken, 05:19.200 --> 05:21.660 if you're born in this reality, 05:22.540 --> 05:25.360 you're going to go through some degree of trauma. 05:25.620 --> 05:26.680 It's just a continuum. 05:27.080 --> 05:30.480 I mean, maybe I'm on this extreme, but we all go through it. 05:30.880 --> 05:34.300 And I do think that we can unbreak ourselves. 05:34.560 --> 05:37.840 I think the winning formula is to do our inner work, 05:38.020 --> 05:38.900 our trauma work, 05:38.900 --> 05:43.660 and to learn the truth about how the world really operates 05:43.660 --> 05:46.900 because like I said, we've been heavily mind controlled in every way. 05:47.480 --> 05:50.900 And I think once we do that and I see it happening, 05:51.160 --> 05:52.680 I see consciousness rising. 05:53.140 --> 05:55.920 And I think we are here on this planet now, 05:56.100 --> 05:57.940 you and I and everyone who's awake 05:59.100 --> 06:03.620 deliberately because we're in a moment of massive transition. 06:04.200 --> 06:07.440 They have tried to do yet another reset. 06:07.440 --> 06:10.440 They've reset humanity many times and this time it's failing. 06:10.840 --> 06:14.760 And we are going to go forward from this hell on earth reality 06:14.760 --> 06:17.280 to a whole different way of being. 06:17.980 --> 06:19.340 And that's my purpose. 06:19.740 --> 06:25.460 That's what I want to do is everything I can to number one, 06:25.940 --> 06:28.980 expose the atrocities they are still doing to children, 06:29.100 --> 06:30.100 like what they did to me. 06:30.440 --> 06:34.680 And to really encourage people to do their own work 06:34.680 --> 06:38.240 and get an understanding of how the world works 06:38.240 --> 06:41.760 because it's up to us and we absolutely have the power 06:41.760 --> 06:45.160 to free ourselves from this situation 06:45.160 --> 06:47.020 and move into something much better. 06:48.280 --> 06:48.960 Wow. 06:50.540 --> 06:52.040 What an intro at that. 06:52.920 --> 06:54.280 Oh my gosh. 06:54.660 --> 06:56.020 I mean, okay, thanks. 06:56.160 --> 06:57.120 The interview is now over. 06:57.380 --> 06:59.240 All my questions have been asked. 06:59.880 --> 07:02.460 I mean, seriously, I'm just like, 07:03.160 --> 07:04.720 I'm speechless obviously. 07:05.060 --> 07:06.580 I kind of find the words to say, 07:06.700 --> 07:09.920 to respond to you introducing yourself. 07:10.840 --> 07:13.820 And some of the listeners may be there too 07:13.820 --> 07:18.500 because although this podcast is about the awakening process 07:18.500 --> 07:20.280 for human beings, 07:20.860 --> 07:23.760 I find that every guest that I have on the show 07:23.760 --> 07:26.960 has a different flavor, I would say or call it 07:26.960 --> 07:29.360 or a different version of the awakening process. 07:29.360 --> 07:33.160 And sometimes we go through multiple processes, 07:33.400 --> 07:35.440 awakening processes throughout our lives. 07:36.620 --> 07:38.340 And for me, yeah, for me, 07:38.360 --> 07:40.740 when I heard your interview with Georgina Grace, 07:40.880 --> 07:42.600 I think it was a year over year ago 07:42.600 --> 07:45.640 and you mentioned some of the things that you just mentioned. 07:46.240 --> 07:49.680 I was like, you know, I was so naive. 07:50.180 --> 07:52.740 I was like, really, I can't believe this is happening. 07:52.860 --> 07:55.300 And the only reason I could relate to what you were saying 07:55.300 --> 07:58.200 is because I'm a neuroscientist and neuropsychologist. 07:58.200 --> 08:00.500 So I know this sounds really primitive, 08:00.500 --> 08:05.660 but I was there just a year ago, myself. 08:07.000 --> 08:13.560 And I've learned, I'll give myself that, I've learned. 08:13.900 --> 08:15.660 I've learned and I'm open to learning 08:16.180 --> 08:21.780 and just, I guess, being getting with it 08:21.780 --> 08:24.160 with the reality of what's going on 08:24.160 --> 08:26.960 rather than pretending like it's not, 08:26.960 --> 08:29.980 you know, or just like, yeah, pretending that it's not. 08:30.440 --> 08:32.440 So hopefully if you're listening to this, 08:32.620 --> 08:34.800 you'll find yourself in that place. 08:34.980 --> 08:37.220 Or if you haven't, that's fine too, 08:37.380 --> 08:41.240 but get yourself there because it's real. 08:42.460 --> 08:44.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 08:45.920 --> 08:48.140 That is what I wanted to say. 08:48.580 --> 08:52.440 And also the courage that it takes 08:52.440 --> 08:55.640 to speak about things like that 08:55.640 --> 08:59.060 when the world sort of isn't really working that way. 09:00.120 --> 09:02.100 Can you say a little bit more about that? 09:02.300 --> 09:05.340 Like, when did you decide, like, you know what, 09:06.100 --> 09:08.240 I've had enough of this, buckery. 09:08.740 --> 09:12.360 I swear a lot, my podcast listeners know that. 09:12.540 --> 09:14.340 Good, okay, I'm right at home then. 09:14.740 --> 09:17.940 Good, so yeah, when you've had enough of that buckery 09:17.940 --> 09:20.180 and like you're doing the things that you're doing now, 09:20.440 --> 09:23.000 like when, what happened for you? 09:24.860 --> 09:27.400 You know, I have to say, 09:27.520 --> 09:29.360 if I go back to the very, very beginning 09:29.360 --> 09:30.760 when I was a small child, 09:31.120 --> 09:35.640 I had some kind of defiant part in me, 09:35.700 --> 09:37.140 which is why I'm alive. 09:38.700 --> 09:42.220 So I did overhear them when I was very small 09:42.220 --> 09:47.180 talking about, you know, they use us for our light 09:47.180 --> 09:49.040 because the people that run the world, 09:49.180 --> 09:51.000 their psychopaths, their pedophiles, 09:51.000 --> 09:52.560 their satanists and their parasites. 09:53.200 --> 09:55.160 They're severed from the life force 09:55.160 --> 09:57.460 from the true creator, God's source. 09:58.160 --> 09:59.880 So they cannot create anything. 10:00.060 --> 10:02.880 So they have to use us and our energy 10:02.880 --> 10:06.000 and life force and light to create this hell on earth, 10:06.340 --> 10:08.000 which is the good news, 10:08.140 --> 10:09.660 the bad news, but it's really the good news 10:09.660 --> 10:12.320 because we don't have to create this 10:12.320 --> 10:14.760 that we have now, we can create something else. 10:15.220 --> 10:16.740 So when I was very small, 10:17.000 --> 10:19.040 I overheard them saying, you know, 10:19.040 --> 10:22.840 we're going to use her light and her being and power to, 10:22.960 --> 10:25.000 you know, we're going to convert her to the dark side 10:25.760 --> 10:26.820 and use her. 10:27.020 --> 10:28.720 And that right away something, 10:28.960 --> 10:29.920 they should never have said that 10:29.920 --> 10:32.660 because something in me was like, oh hell no, never. 10:33.440 --> 10:35.660 So it's something that I held on to 10:35.660 --> 10:37.820 so they could do all that they, you know, 10:37.840 --> 10:38.540 I had no power. 10:38.700 --> 10:39.260 I was a child. 10:39.380 --> 10:40.540 They could do whatever they wanted, 10:41.060 --> 10:43.720 but they couldn't quite snuff that out. 10:44.420 --> 10:46.280 And, you know, then I grew up, 10:46.340 --> 10:48.640 I went out, I got away when I was 18. 10:48.640 --> 10:49.940 I came to the United States. 10:49.940 --> 10:52.380 I went to university and graduate schools 10:52.380 --> 10:53.660 and everything and I worked. 10:54.580 --> 10:57.020 And I was always in a process of healing. 11:00.060 --> 11:02.600 And, you know, then I had a daughter 11:02.600 --> 11:05.220 and I had that experience of being a mother. 11:05.360 --> 11:07.680 So I learned that was more healing, more love. 11:08.140 --> 11:10.580 And I went through my own work. 11:10.940 --> 11:15.200 So I did a decade of deep, deep healing work. 11:15.560 --> 11:17.480 It was very painful, you know, 11:17.480 --> 11:19.260 honestly it was brutal. 11:20.080 --> 11:21.880 Just a shade less brutal 11:21.880 --> 11:24.400 than what I had already experienced and gone through. 11:25.380 --> 11:27.240 So that was pretty rough. 11:27.560 --> 11:28.980 And for a few years after that, 11:29.100 --> 11:32.320 I was kind of, you know, kind of recovering from all that work. 11:32.540 --> 11:37.220 But it really, doing that deep inner work really freed me. 11:37.340 --> 11:39.300 It put all the pieces of the puzzle together. 11:39.720 --> 11:42.840 I was suddenly, you know, recovered myself. 11:43.860 --> 11:46.320 And a few years, some years after that, 11:46.320 --> 11:49.300 I got to the point where I thought, 11:49.760 --> 11:51.680 I remember actually saying, 11:52.060 --> 11:53.020 what the fuck God, 11:53.800 --> 11:56.680 children are still being raped and trafficked 11:56.680 --> 11:58.240 and satanically abused. 11:58.620 --> 12:01.160 Like I was like, this can't exist on earth. 12:01.760 --> 12:03.080 And then I heard this, 12:03.740 --> 12:05.580 okay, we'll then do something about it. 12:05.600 --> 12:07.820 And I was like, what am I supposed to do? 12:08.080 --> 12:09.840 You know, we'll talk about it. 12:09.860 --> 12:12.920 So I thought, oh shit, I have to tell my story, don't I? 12:14.060 --> 12:17.100 I'm naturally kind of more shy, introverted. 12:17.340 --> 12:19.680 So just if you had told me 10 years ago, 12:19.720 --> 12:22.640 I would be on camera doing what I've been doing the last few years. 12:22.740 --> 12:24.880 I would have laughed in your face, you know, like no. 12:25.500 --> 12:27.660 But I didn't interview. 12:27.940 --> 12:28.800 I told my story. 12:29.120 --> 12:32.180 And then it just kind of evolved from there. 12:32.380 --> 12:34.060 I began to interview other people. 12:34.580 --> 12:36.460 And I have to say, as a side effect, 12:36.700 --> 12:37.860 I met some incredible, 12:38.060 --> 12:40.700 there are some incredible human beings on this planet. 12:40.700 --> 12:44.140 You know, those of us who are awake are not alone. 12:44.320 --> 12:47.900 There's more and more and people are doing really amazing work 12:47.900 --> 12:50.400 in many, many different ways, right? 12:51.040 --> 12:56.900 So it took me a while to get to the point where I felt reluctantly, 12:56.960 --> 12:58.500 but I started to tell my story. 12:58.880 --> 13:01.880 And at first, every time I would talk 13:01.880 --> 13:04.340 or every time even I would interview other people, 13:05.360 --> 13:08.820 they do a lot of programming with satanic ritual abuse. 13:08.820 --> 13:13.040 So I had a lot of programs that would open up and backlash internally. 13:13.820 --> 13:16.740 Like I would even in the interviews I would sweat. 13:16.940 --> 13:19.920 I'd have to like peel my clothes off after the interview. 13:20.240 --> 13:21.660 My legs were shaking. 13:21.820 --> 13:23.260 I mean, you couldn't see it on camera. 13:23.460 --> 13:26.920 I would come across pretty composed, but I was terrified. 13:27.320 --> 13:30.100 Parts of me were terrified because I had been told, 13:30.560 --> 13:31.960 if you ever speak out, 13:31.960 --> 13:34.320 we're going to hunt you down and kill you. 13:34.400 --> 13:35.880 And we're going to kill everyone you love. 13:35.880 --> 13:39.820 So, you know, those things are in there 13:39.820 --> 13:42.220 and sometimes they activate and come up 13:42.220 --> 13:44.700 when you start to do the things that are forbidden. 13:45.420 --> 13:47.280 So it was a process. 13:47.600 --> 13:51.500 I can tell you that years, a few years later, like today, 13:52.160 --> 13:53.440 it's not that way. 13:53.560 --> 13:55.180 I've overcome that. 13:56.020 --> 13:56.580 Okay. 13:56.900 --> 13:57.800 We are back. 13:58.200 --> 14:01.100 Obviously they didn't like what was being said. 14:01.180 --> 14:05.340 So we got bumped off, but here we are again, back at it. 14:05.340 --> 14:07.020 Speaking the truth. 14:07.200 --> 14:11.740 So Max, would you please so kindly just say maybe the last few 14:11.740 --> 14:13.720 sentences of what you were saying before? 14:16.100 --> 14:20.640 Yeah, I was, I was kind of describing the internal process 14:20.640 --> 14:24.120 of speaking out and how hard it was at first, 14:24.120 --> 14:28.280 because it activated programming in me that was put in me. 14:28.780 --> 14:32.380 Like you, you better not say anything or reveal what happened 14:32.380 --> 14:33.620 or else, you know. 14:33.620 --> 14:36.600 So it was really hard at first. 14:36.760 --> 14:40.700 Every time I was interviewed and even every time I interviewed 14:40.700 --> 14:45.780 other people, I would be sweating during the interview. 14:45.960 --> 14:47.800 Luckily no one could see my armpits. 14:48.640 --> 14:50.620 I would be shaking sometimes. 14:51.640 --> 14:54.380 I would wake up those nights after interviews, 14:54.540 --> 14:57.640 like with panic and going, oh shit, what did I say? 14:57.920 --> 14:59.000 Like I said too much. 14:59.000 --> 15:04.240 So it's a process and fast forward a few years later to today. 15:04.660 --> 15:05.940 It's, it's okay. 15:06.100 --> 15:08.260 Like I can be here with you and be fine. 15:09.440 --> 15:13.200 But you asked kind of like what that process was like. 15:13.440 --> 15:16.340 And so internally it was, it was a little challenging at first, 15:16.420 --> 15:21.540 but you know, I don't like to be kept down and those bastards 15:21.540 --> 15:23.320 will not shut me up. 15:23.320 --> 15:25.900 So I just pushed through until it became easy. 15:27.240 --> 15:29.820 Again, so, so inspiring. 15:30.220 --> 15:33.660 And I hope it inspires the people that are listening that, 15:33.800 --> 15:38.900 you know, may find themselves wherever on the spectrum of 15:38.900 --> 15:42.160 speaking out and speaking their truth, whatever their 15:42.160 --> 15:43.440 experience may be. 15:43.900 --> 15:47.920 You know, there's your experience, which is just, 15:48.100 --> 15:51.460 you know, horrific and very specific. 15:52.180 --> 15:54.960 And then there's other experiences, you know. 15:54.960 --> 15:59.220 So I hope the listeners can find themselves and you're sharing 15:59.220 --> 16:03.340 and, you know, get, get the courage to speak, to speak. 16:03.660 --> 16:04.080 Yeah. 16:05.140 --> 16:05.480 Yeah. 16:05.580 --> 16:05.760 Yeah. 16:06.100 --> 16:07.700 Because there's so much power. 16:07.860 --> 16:11.300 I used to think, again, I used to think due to my own 16:11.300 --> 16:13.980 programming that, oh, my voice doesn't matter. 16:14.160 --> 16:15.760 You know, I'm just one person. 16:16.140 --> 16:17.380 What can I do? 16:18.780 --> 16:20.400 Nothing interesting about me. 16:20.580 --> 16:23.680 And then here we are running this podcast and it's like, 16:23.680 --> 16:26.100 fuck knows who's listening, but you know what? 16:26.280 --> 16:31.240 My intention is that it ripples through and has an effect on 16:31.240 --> 16:34.080 people's lives and on the trajectory of this planet. 16:34.200 --> 16:35.320 That's my intention anyway. 16:35.540 --> 16:37.780 And I think it's worth speaking for. 16:38.800 --> 16:39.360 Yeah. 16:39.780 --> 16:42.220 And, you know, I want to say something to what you said about 16:42.220 --> 16:42.920 being a mom. 16:43.120 --> 16:47.500 That is something that's devalued in our world because the 16:47.500 --> 16:51.020 creatures at the top of the pyramid are very patriarchal. 16:51.020 --> 16:53.600 But think about it this way though. 16:54.320 --> 16:59.360 We take a soul from a different realm and we bring it into our 16:59.360 --> 17:02.820 bodies and make a body for it and bring it into this reality. 17:03.300 --> 17:07.280 There's nothing more badass than that in the whole wide 17:07.280 --> 17:07.620 world. 17:08.280 --> 17:08.300 Okay. 17:08.720 --> 17:12.840 So to be a mother in a normal society would be the top tier, 17:12.840 --> 17:16.780 like greatest thing that people can do on this planet. 17:16.780 --> 17:21.640 So don't ever feel, they do minimize us, but no. 17:22.260 --> 17:22.700 Yeah. 17:22.900 --> 17:24.380 And thank you for saying that. 17:24.560 --> 17:29.200 It's definitely been my experience more and more so. 17:29.460 --> 17:32.440 And I think more people are speaking about it like that, 17:32.480 --> 17:36.900 or at least the people I follow on my socials are like real, 17:37.000 --> 17:40.640 you know, real like moms with, with guts. 17:40.940 --> 17:44.760 And we're bringing forth this new era of what a mother 17:44.760 --> 17:45.160 is. 17:45.200 --> 17:46.420 And it's just what you just said. 17:46.420 --> 17:49.280 I mean, look, I have a PhD in neuroscience, you know, 17:49.320 --> 17:53.480 I've done some shit in my life, but being a mother is like a whole, 17:53.680 --> 17:58.480 it a whole other game, like really, really like it. 17:59.740 --> 18:00.400 I don't. 18:00.920 --> 18:01.400 Yeah. 18:01.660 --> 18:02.260 I've just become. 18:02.460 --> 18:05.180 No, a PhD cannot prepare you for motherhood. 18:05.460 --> 18:08.900 It's, it's peanuts compared to motherhood. 18:09.340 --> 18:11.860 Not even if you just talk about the physical. 18:12.200 --> 18:14.880 I mean, you know, when your belly is as big as a 18:14.880 --> 18:19.160 freaking house and you can barely walk and then like in childbirth 18:19.160 --> 18:23.560 and then the sleepless years after, I mean, yeah, it's, you know, 18:23.740 --> 18:27.760 it's the one time in our lives when we're parents where I think 18:27.760 --> 18:31.600 it's a, it's the biggest spiritual evolution a human can go through 18:31.600 --> 18:35.640 because you, you have to selflessly be there for this little 18:35.640 --> 18:39.700 beautiful innocent being that has come into the world through 18:39.700 --> 18:40.080 us. 18:40.480 --> 18:44.160 And you have to give up literally your sleep, your body, 18:44.160 --> 18:48.420 your showers, sometimes your life for, for several years to, 18:48.700 --> 18:52.560 you know, if you're doing it right, it's, it's really much harder 18:52.560 --> 18:55.200 than it's the, of course, than they show in the movies, but it's 18:55.200 --> 18:59.500 also, as you know, the biggest love that you will ever feel 18:59.500 --> 19:01.960 is the love that you feel for your children. 19:01.960 --> 19:06.340 And it's, you know, it's a sacred thing to bring little 19:06.800 --> 19:09.600 beings into this world because there are future, you know. 19:10.180 --> 19:10.540 Hmm. 19:10.820 --> 19:11.260 Yeah. 19:11.260 --> 19:12.040 Yeah. 19:12.480 --> 19:14.140 I'm just present to that now. 19:14.460 --> 19:15.840 It's, it's pretty amazing. 19:16.120 --> 19:18.380 It is a, it is a privilege for sure. 19:19.080 --> 19:19.220 Yeah. 19:20.560 --> 19:21.000 Okay. 19:21.400 --> 19:25.060 Well, let me ask you this question going back to you being, 19:25.260 --> 19:28.820 how do you get born into what you got born into? 19:28.980 --> 19:32.960 Like how do you get born into SRA and all that stuff? 19:32.960 --> 19:34.160 It starts happening. 19:34.540 --> 19:36.900 Like how, I mean, I'm, you know, you can talk about it 19:36.900 --> 19:39.840 from whatever, like you can say my soul chose this or 19:39.840 --> 19:42.360 what it, like however you want to say it, it's totally up to you, 19:42.380 --> 19:43.380 but how does that happen? 19:46.700 --> 19:49.200 Well, there's many layers of that answer. 19:49.540 --> 19:53.540 So the first one, since you referenced it is I do recall, 19:53.820 --> 19:59.280 I have memories of pre incarnation of being at some kind of 19:59.280 --> 20:03.160 meeting, galactic meeting where there were other human 20:03.160 --> 20:06.220 looking beings, but different varieties and discussing planet 20:06.220 --> 20:08.100 earth and what was going on here. 20:08.100 --> 20:12.800 And from what I remember, this planet was super significant to 20:12.800 --> 20:14.800 what was happening all over the universe. 20:15.360 --> 20:19.220 And so the discussion was around how it had been captured by the 20:19.220 --> 20:19.500 dark. 20:20.440 --> 20:23.360 And so I volunteered and many people volunteered, you know, 20:23.420 --> 20:27.260 I'm not, I'm not special or different, but from my perspective, 20:27.260 --> 20:31.420 I volunteered and I decided to incarnate into one of the 20:31.420 --> 20:36.240 darker places on earth and be involved, which is the 20:36.240 --> 20:37.380 Vatican, you know? 20:38.020 --> 20:43.240 And so when you're outside of a planet that is of a low 20:43.240 --> 20:46.060 frequency and dealing with this kind of darkness, you cannot 20:46.060 --> 20:46.760 interfere. 20:47.080 --> 20:53.780 It's against universal law, but you can incarnate, go into the 20:53.780 --> 21:00.960 shit, survive it, heal from it, and then speak about it and 21:00.960 --> 21:03.400 expose it from that perspective, right? 21:03.400 --> 21:05.100 So that's what I chose to do. 21:07.100 --> 21:12.540 How do we get some of, some, there are, okay, there's different 21:12.540 --> 21:13.040 tiers. 21:13.320 --> 21:17.640 So there's the bloodline families. 21:18.520 --> 21:22.460 So big names like the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds 21:22.460 --> 21:25.920 and the Vanderbilts and the Black nobility families and 21:25.920 --> 21:26.180 whatnot. 21:26.700 --> 21:31.920 So these, even children born in these families, they will 21:31.920 --> 21:35.560 put them through ritual abuse because they're grooming these 21:35.560 --> 21:39.260 children for specific roles in the global hierarchy when they 21:39.260 --> 21:39.760 grow up. 21:40.720 --> 21:46.220 And so the, the satanic ritual abuse is to create so much 21:46.220 --> 21:50.120 trauma that splits the child and then the child can be 21:50.120 --> 21:54.120 programmed with certain altars that, or certain ways to 21:54.120 --> 21:57.560 ensure that they do their job for the cult later on. 21:57.640 --> 22:01.560 So as an example, some of the programming can be like 22:01.560 --> 22:05.100 people who are assassinate, like the lone wolves who 22:05.100 --> 22:08.700 supposedly assassinated like JFK or other presidents or 22:08.700 --> 22:10.520 big figures in history. 22:11.160 --> 22:12.540 They were MKUltra. 22:12.660 --> 22:16.220 They were put through this kind of abuse to create an alter 22:16.220 --> 22:20.360 that when a certain time or date or trigger word or 22:20.360 --> 22:22.420 sentence, they go out and they execute the test. 22:22.840 --> 22:26.520 So similarly, any leaders you see like the president of the 22:26.520 --> 22:28.680 United States or the president of Canada or the prime 22:28.680 --> 22:31.840 minister of here, they will be, or the global agency people, 22:31.960 --> 22:36.380 they will be groomed from small childhood for this role. 22:36.500 --> 22:38.660 So they will become from these families that are 22:39.480 --> 22:42.140 generationally satanic and they will be put through this. 22:42.800 --> 22:46.340 Then there's like other tiers, more lower tiers where 22:46.340 --> 22:49.600 there's just certain families that have been through this 22:49.600 --> 22:51.800 and they pass it on to their children. 22:52.580 --> 22:55.920 There's a factor that they can also identify certain 22:55.920 --> 22:59.100 beings who incarnate, who have a lot of light and then 22:59.100 --> 23:01.400 they target those children specifically. 23:02.620 --> 23:05.060 It can be accidental. 23:05.880 --> 23:08.680 Like they're always, the cult is always looking for talent. 23:08.900 --> 23:12.040 So for example, I don't know, like for example, 23:12.100 --> 23:15.920 Justin Bieber, this little boy who has a great singing 23:15.920 --> 23:20.220 voice and he auditions and he's got star potential. 23:20.700 --> 23:23.400 He didn't grow up in that, but they'll say, 23:23.400 --> 23:26.640 oh, we can use this kid and then they'll suck him in. 23:26.760 --> 23:29.240 And then he, you know, as people can probably see, 23:29.280 --> 23:32.480 has been put through a ton of abuse once he entered 23:32.480 --> 23:36.240 that sort of Hollywood sphere, which is full of this stuff. 23:36.800 --> 23:40.600 So it can be many different ways that you get into it. 23:42.880 --> 23:45.240 And lastly, I'll say like, for example, 23:45.320 --> 23:50.000 my friend Kathy O'Brien, who's a survivor of MKUltra, 23:51.400 --> 23:54.420 she got into it because her father was a pedophile 23:54.420 --> 23:58.300 and was molesting her and making child porn. 23:58.760 --> 24:03.200 And back in the day, he was mailing it out and he got caught. 24:03.400 --> 24:05.600 And so this is very classic, very typical. 24:05.780 --> 24:08.860 They said to him, well, if you give us your daughter 24:08.860 --> 24:12.060 for MKUltra, then we won't prosecute you for this. 24:12.180 --> 24:14.900 And in fact, you know, we'll give you a lot of money. 24:15.180 --> 24:19.240 And so they, anyone who's naturally a pedophile 24:19.240 --> 24:22.220 or naturally doing something negative or dark 24:22.220 --> 24:25.160 will be sucked in and recruited as well. 24:25.320 --> 24:26.800 So it's a whole variety of ways. 24:28.040 --> 24:29.040 Thank you. 24:29.200 --> 24:30.940 That definitely answers that question. 24:32.880 --> 24:34.700 And how can you... 24:34.700 --> 24:37.160 Okay, well, I mean, this is the next primitive thing to us. 24:37.260 --> 24:38.040 How do you get out? 24:38.200 --> 24:39.160 Okay, you're now in. 24:39.580 --> 24:40.740 How the fuck do you get out? 24:43.680 --> 24:45.760 Well, some people don't get out. 24:45.960 --> 24:47.240 It kind of depends. 24:47.240 --> 24:50.440 You know, there are sadly a lot of people, 24:50.680 --> 24:53.360 a lot of young women who are used as breeders. 24:53.540 --> 24:56.500 So they will be impregnated and birth children 24:56.500 --> 25:00.300 that will be used to traffic or to sacrifice. 25:00.620 --> 25:02.800 And they're usually kept locked up 25:02.800 --> 25:05.080 and then they die from the raping and the breeding. 25:05.880 --> 25:08.040 There's children that don't make it 25:08.040 --> 25:10.040 because they're considered expendable. 25:10.660 --> 25:14.180 And then there's others that, you know, like myself, 25:14.180 --> 25:17.440 a little less, you know, not quite as expendable. 25:17.920 --> 25:20.600 So, you know, part of the family. 25:20.860 --> 25:24.960 In my case, my father was not part of this 25:24.960 --> 25:26.040 and he was American. 25:26.040 --> 25:29.600 So I was always destined to come to America for university. 25:30.600 --> 25:33.780 And I also, myself, when I was 18, 25:33.880 --> 25:36.460 I just got to a point where I... 25:36.460 --> 25:38.220 I don't know, something came in me, 25:38.420 --> 25:41.020 some power of who I am. 25:41.080 --> 25:43.500 And I just said, that's it, bitches, I'm done. 25:43.500 --> 25:45.480 You will not touch me anymore. 25:46.000 --> 25:49.400 I'm not going to be willing to do this. 25:49.500 --> 25:54.020 And see, they train us in many abilities, okay? 25:54.580 --> 25:56.320 They train us in psychic abilities. 25:56.900 --> 26:00.380 And, you know, if you ever saw the children's show, 26:00.500 --> 26:03.680 The Last Airbender, it's really cute to watch. 26:03.960 --> 26:07.280 But it's true, like they can train us with the elements. 26:07.660 --> 26:10.580 And so we become weaponized 26:10.580 --> 26:12.500 because that's what the cult wants to put out 26:12.500 --> 26:15.520 onto the world, weaponized people to do this, that, or the other. 26:16.560 --> 26:19.620 And so when you turn on that and you say, 26:19.660 --> 26:20.800 I'm not doing it anymore, 26:21.240 --> 26:24.020 it's a bit of a problem because now you're weaponized 26:24.020 --> 26:27.660 and, yeah, you're not consenting to be used by them anymore. 26:28.000 --> 26:29.100 And you're not... 26:29.100 --> 26:32.460 You could be sort of somewhat dangerous, I guess, to them, so to speak. 26:34.520 --> 26:36.300 So I was able to go. 26:37.280 --> 26:41.820 And it's not to say I haven't been harassed since I left, 26:41.820 --> 26:43.700 but I changed my name. 26:44.260 --> 26:45.600 I moved away. 26:45.960 --> 26:48.020 I, you know, dove into my life. 26:48.300 --> 26:50.100 And, you know, now that I've been speaking out 26:50.100 --> 26:52.800 and I get energetic attacks and things, 26:52.980 --> 26:56.880 but, you know, I've already survived the impossible. 26:57.400 --> 27:00.720 Like, you know, nothing's going to shut me up now. 27:00.960 --> 27:03.080 I always say, I've said on other interviews, 27:03.900 --> 27:04.880 if they want to kill me, 27:04.900 --> 27:07.160 my mouth will be talking until my last breath. 27:07.720 --> 27:08.100 Yeah. 27:08.100 --> 27:10.020 Well, literally, literally, 27:10.200 --> 27:13.680 you've survived the unthinkable and now what? 27:14.500 --> 27:16.680 But also very like, wow. 27:17.220 --> 27:18.940 You know, there you are. 27:19.180 --> 27:22.520 They're not everybody's like you, so that's the thing. 27:22.760 --> 27:26.340 And I've had Rachel Vaughn and Alandra on the show already. 27:26.700 --> 27:31.500 You know, they've spoken about their process, 27:31.680 --> 27:33.720 but again, it's vastly different. 27:33.720 --> 27:38.960 And, yeah, yeah, that's, that's all. 27:39.140 --> 27:41.460 As I said, I'm still speechless because these are things 27:41.460 --> 27:44.500 that don't get usually get talked about, you know, that I don't, 27:44.640 --> 27:47.560 I mean, in your circles and obviously I've been on some of your 27:48.360 --> 27:49.680 do meetings and stuff. 27:49.900 --> 27:51.280 It's kind of what we speak about, 27:51.280 --> 27:54.120 but people in the world aren't really talking about it. 27:54.540 --> 27:57.860 And, you know, I think they should because it's real. 27:58.900 --> 27:59.320 Yeah. 28:00.260 --> 28:03.620 Yeah. I mean, people don't know and that's part of it. 28:03.860 --> 28:05.420 And I dearly love Rachel. 28:05.720 --> 28:09.900 She's an, you know, probably my best friend and I adore Alandra. 28:10.620 --> 28:16.200 And this is what's so heartening, Val, is that not only did they 28:16.200 --> 28:21.320 not silence us or render us so incapacitated that we can't 28:21.320 --> 28:24.880 recover and heal, but we're speaking out. 28:24.880 --> 28:27.480 So the programming didn't really work. 28:27.780 --> 28:30.360 We broke it, you know, and here we are. 28:30.520 --> 28:31.500 It's their worst nightmare. 28:31.900 --> 28:34.940 And there's so many survivors speaking out. 28:35.140 --> 28:36.080 It's really amazing. 28:36.260 --> 28:38.540 I never thought I would see anything like this. 28:38.960 --> 28:42.840 And if you understand SRA, you're going to understand 28:42.840 --> 28:44.020 how the world works. 28:44.740 --> 28:45.780 Yeah. Yeah. 28:46.140 --> 28:52.240 And I'm starting to, and it's like, it's wild, but it's real. 28:52.240 --> 28:55.400 Again, I keep on saying it's real because at some point it was 28:55.400 --> 28:56.200 like not real. 28:56.380 --> 28:59.000 And then it became real for me as a person who wasn't, you know, 28:59.080 --> 29:01.240 aware of any of this a couple of years ago. 29:03.800 --> 29:08.300 And, well, and, and you're also doing it through a bunch of 29:08.300 --> 29:08.720 offerings. 29:08.880 --> 29:11.280 Like you're speaking, you're obviously invited to all these 29:11.280 --> 29:14.000 things that you just told me about these conferences, which is 29:14.000 --> 29:14.340 amazing. 29:14.340 --> 29:16.800 You've been part of a bunch of interviews, but then you also 29:16.800 --> 29:21.600 offer educational courses and seminars on this. 29:21.600 --> 29:23.180 So people can educate themselves. 29:23.660 --> 29:26.360 So if you're listening to this and you're like, oh, well, like, 29:26.460 --> 29:27.840 where do I go from here? 29:28.040 --> 29:29.580 So where do people go from here? 29:29.740 --> 29:31.520 If they want to learn and be, be aware. 29:32.720 --> 29:33.160 Yeah. 29:33.400 --> 29:35.840 Well, I have a website on broken.global. 29:36.080 --> 29:39.540 I have, I don't know, over a hundred interviews with all, 29:39.740 --> 29:42.560 like I said, amazing people who have whistleblown this, 29:42.680 --> 29:44.380 that and the other, a lot of survivor interviews. 29:45.500 --> 29:49.620 There's a lot of interviews of me and I have begun to 29:49.620 --> 29:50.420 teach seminars. 29:51.040 --> 29:54.940 And so right now there's three mind control seminar, 29:55.420 --> 29:57.620 a satanic ritual abuse, like what is it seminar, 29:57.620 --> 29:59.960 and a seminar exposing the Vatican. 30:01.640 --> 30:03.780 I'm going to continue to do seminars. 30:04.020 --> 30:06.300 So people, when I offer them, they can join live, 30:06.300 --> 30:08.560 which is really fun because then we have a great 30:08.560 --> 30:10.780 discussion and Q and A afterwards. 30:10.780 --> 30:13.720 But if you miss it, you can also watch the recording later. 30:13.860 --> 30:16.640 So if people go to my website under classes, 30:16.640 --> 30:17.700 they can find those. 30:17.700 --> 30:20.920 They're very low priced and, you know, 30:21.360 --> 30:25.140 I think one of the main things to really learn and understand 30:25.140 --> 30:29.780 is mind control because we are all mind controlled through 30:30.260 --> 30:35.000 the educational system, through the media, you know, 30:35.160 --> 30:39.080 through every system we're poisoned, you know, 30:39.200 --> 30:41.680 with the, the poison, the air, the water, the food, 30:41.840 --> 30:44.900 the farmers, everything in this reality, 30:44.900 --> 30:50.100 the frequencies, the EMFs, the, it's all like this assault 30:50.500 --> 30:51.700 on the human being. 30:51.980 --> 30:57.020 They want to keep us devolved low consciousness in a frequency 30:57.020 --> 30:58.940 bandwidth that we call survival. 30:59.280 --> 31:01.060 And if you think about it, you look out there, 31:01.140 --> 31:02.240 they have engineered scarcity. 31:02.580 --> 31:03.620 They have engineered poverty. 31:03.820 --> 31:05.600 None of that's natural on this planet. 31:06.080 --> 31:08.620 And that is because these creatures, 31:08.820 --> 31:10.740 as Rachel calls them, and I love that, 31:11.420 --> 31:15.460 they can only succeed with secrecy and deception 31:15.460 --> 31:17.880 and with keeping us in a frequency bandwidth 31:17.880 --> 31:19.720 that they can control us in. 31:20.180 --> 31:22.520 Once we do our work and we learn the truth, 31:22.700 --> 31:24.440 truth is a frequency, it's light. 31:24.920 --> 31:27.460 We rise to a frequency, to a consciousness 31:27.460 --> 31:29.500 where we're out of their reach. 31:29.760 --> 31:30.560 They're of the dark. 31:30.680 --> 31:32.060 They can only operate in this. 31:32.560 --> 31:35.740 If you look at Hawkins scale of consciousness 31:36.540 --> 31:39.060 at the higher frequencies, you know, love, peace, 31:39.060 --> 31:42.160 whatever, that's out of their control. 31:42.500 --> 31:44.520 And so that's the goal. 31:44.940 --> 31:48.440 We could get to a point where this shit doesn't 31:48.440 --> 31:49.600 even exist at all. 31:50.040 --> 31:50.440 Yeah. 31:50.900 --> 31:51.160 Yeah. 31:51.600 --> 31:53.460 And that's the, I imagine that's the point. 31:54.740 --> 31:55.060 Yeah. 31:55.200 --> 31:57.260 So anyway, if you understand mind control, 31:57.420 --> 31:59.860 then you begin to, our minds, 32:00.080 --> 32:02.640 they don't need to use any kind of force 32:02.640 --> 32:04.600 because they have the prison around our minds. 32:04.680 --> 32:07.120 But when we take that off and see clearly, 32:08.100 --> 32:11.520 that's, now each person that frees their mind 32:11.520 --> 32:13.880 is no longer under these people's control. 32:14.600 --> 32:19.020 So, yeah, so there's a lot of resources on my website. 32:19.440 --> 32:23.080 And then, you know, satanic ritual abuse is really a very, 32:23.080 --> 32:25.380 you know, deep and profound trauma 32:25.380 --> 32:28.720 and something, you know, difficult to recover from, 32:28.780 --> 32:30.920 but definitely you can recover from it. 32:30.960 --> 32:32.880 So if people need help with trauma, 32:32.880 --> 32:36.180 then they can also on my website look under services 32:36.180 --> 32:39.180 and I, you know, I work with people one-on-one. 32:39.880 --> 32:42.260 And as you know, because you're part of the group, 32:42.760 --> 32:44.300 I created this community. 32:44.880 --> 32:48.240 It's, you can become an unbroken warrior, we call it, you know, 32:48.300 --> 32:49.720 and we meet every month on Zoom. 32:49.880 --> 32:51.000 We have some great laughs. 32:51.460 --> 32:55.500 We curse, we talk about, it's like a group of people 32:55.500 --> 32:56.280 that are awake. 32:56.520 --> 32:57.860 It's so refreshing, isn't it? 32:57.940 --> 32:59.900 To be around other people and you can talk about 32:59.900 --> 33:02.220 all the real stuff without having people look at you 33:02.220 --> 33:04.280 like you have, you know, three heads or something. 33:04.760 --> 33:05.760 So, yeah. 33:05.940 --> 33:07.440 So basically, unbroken.glo. 33:08.140 --> 33:08.980 So good. 33:09.300 --> 33:09.760 So good. 33:09.900 --> 33:12.020 And yeah, I love being part of that group and the conversations 33:12.020 --> 33:16.000 that we get to have really, really just empowering 33:16.000 --> 33:18.860 and fun and revealing and yeah, no bullshit. 33:19.980 --> 33:20.620 No bullshit. 33:20.620 --> 33:21.200 Yeah, no bullshit. 33:21.880 --> 33:23.920 You bring a lot of humor to them, by the way. 33:23.980 --> 33:25.460 You really crack us all up. 33:25.940 --> 33:26.780 Thank you. 33:27.000 --> 33:27.660 Thank you. 33:27.880 --> 33:29.840 It is, you know, hey, that's how I roll. 33:31.960 --> 33:33.900 I just lost my train of thought. 33:34.120 --> 33:36.820 Oh, I was going to say, oh, I was going to say, right? 33:37.300 --> 33:40.340 The survival mode that we're in, because as a neuroscientist, 33:40.500 --> 33:41.940 you have learned a bunch of things about the brain, 33:42.000 --> 33:45.240 but particularly my PhD was on the way that the brain 33:45.240 --> 33:48.040 processes fear and anxiety related behavior. 33:48.320 --> 33:49.800 And it was all on the limbic system, 33:49.940 --> 33:51.260 the different parts of the limbic system. 33:52.660 --> 33:55.840 And now that I'm going through my awakening process, 33:55.840 --> 33:57.380 it's kind of an ongoing thing. 33:58.300 --> 34:01.540 I'm realizing like, oh, wow, these structures, 34:01.860 --> 34:04.460 you know, the limbic system that's primordial, 34:04.720 --> 34:07.120 it's been evolutionarily conserved across species, 34:07.240 --> 34:11.320 across time, has completely been programmed to be in survival. 34:11.540 --> 34:12.480 Like that's what we get taught. 34:12.680 --> 34:14.320 Oh, the limbic system for survival. 34:14.760 --> 34:17.640 But I'm like, yeah, but the limbic system is also for love. 34:18.220 --> 34:20.420 Like that's how you experience love. 34:20.940 --> 34:23.820 The maternal bond comes from the amygdala, you know, 34:24.180 --> 34:26.980 the maternal bonding also comes from the limbic system. 34:26.980 --> 34:30.500 So why is it that we're educated that the limbic system 34:30.500 --> 34:32.500 is all about survival and it's bad? 34:32.680 --> 34:36.340 It's more the brainstem that's wired for survival. 34:36.700 --> 34:38.980 You know, to me, the limbic system, like you said, 34:39.820 --> 34:42.880 it's about attachment and love also. 34:43.680 --> 34:45.660 And you know, because you're a neuroscientist, 34:45.920 --> 34:48.220 our brain doesn't finish growing until we're like 25. 34:48.520 --> 34:50.900 So that's why children have parents, 34:51.000 --> 34:52.180 because they don't have a cortex yet. 34:53.140 --> 34:55.640 Their highest brain functioning at some point 34:55.640 --> 34:59.300 is the limbic system, which is also emotional reactivity, 34:59.500 --> 35:00.160 impulsivity. 35:00.820 --> 35:04.340 You know, it's not a great type of brain structure 35:04.340 --> 35:05.980 to operate in reality from. 35:06.780 --> 35:09.020 But what you're saying, I love that. 35:09.140 --> 35:11.380 And I want to hear kind of what you think about this. 35:11.480 --> 35:14.840 But from my understanding, I did my masters in neuropsychs. 35:14.880 --> 35:15.260 So similar. 35:17.180 --> 35:21.120 These people know how our psychology and our neurology 35:21.120 --> 35:21.400 work. 35:21.680 --> 35:23.940 So what they've done, if you look out into the world, 35:24.000 --> 35:24.660 everything is fear. 35:24.660 --> 35:25.660 The boogeyman. 35:25.880 --> 35:26.300 It's a virus. 35:26.540 --> 35:27.100 It's a terrorist. 35:27.420 --> 35:27.860 It's something. 35:28.100 --> 35:28.740 It's always something. 35:28.880 --> 35:29.660 It's a climate thing. 35:30.000 --> 35:34.260 And so they keep us in fear because when you're in fear, 35:34.540 --> 35:36.440 your brain is in survival. 35:36.700 --> 35:39.440 It shuts down the cortex and the prefrontal cortex 35:39.440 --> 35:41.840 because thinking takes too many seconds. 35:41.980 --> 35:44.880 So in a real danger situation, you have to react. 35:45.140 --> 35:46.220 Fight or flight, you know. 35:46.740 --> 35:49.860 So, but the brain doesn't distinguish between a real danger 35:49.860 --> 35:52.980 and these pumping of fear based words or screen, 35:53.180 --> 35:53.960 what's on the screen. 35:53.960 --> 35:57.780 So they keep our cortex constantly shut down. 35:57.940 --> 36:00.540 So we are reacting all the time. 36:01.000 --> 36:04.640 And that's one of their main aspects of mind control. 36:04.880 --> 36:06.020 Yeah, absolutely. 36:06.300 --> 36:08.640 I mean, I back that 100% near scientifically. 36:09.340 --> 36:11.940 We are all in survival mode until we're not, 36:12.040 --> 36:15.020 but primarily throughout the majority of our lives. 36:15.260 --> 36:18.740 We are real threat or perceived threat is the same, 36:18.940 --> 36:19.560 same brain. 36:19.820 --> 36:22.500 Absolutely the same thing, whether it's a real lion 36:22.500 --> 36:24.640 or whatever person's coming to stab you, 36:24.980 --> 36:26.440 or it's, you know, 36:26.620 --> 36:29.640 you think something's going to happen because it's been shown 36:29.640 --> 36:32.060 to you 50,000 times as part of the programming. 36:33.220 --> 36:33.740 Yeah. 36:33.860 --> 36:34.000 Yep. 36:34.600 --> 36:34.800 Yeah. 36:35.140 --> 36:37.640 It's almost like they've rewired our brains 36:37.640 --> 36:42.580 and captured them to live in constant fear and survival. 36:42.860 --> 36:46.260 And that's why we are in a world that is a lot of survival. 36:46.680 --> 36:48.320 You know, they've set it up that way. 36:48.600 --> 36:49.740 But here's the good news. 36:50.640 --> 36:52.960 It's the only way they can control us. 36:53.200 --> 36:56.000 So once you rise out of that and realize, hell, no, 36:56.020 --> 36:58.020 I'm not going to live in fear and survival. 36:58.500 --> 37:00.500 You're not under their control anymore. 37:01.500 --> 37:01.680 Totally. 37:02.220 --> 37:05.020 And that's, I think, where I was leading to as well is 37:05.020 --> 37:08.220 despite all this fuckery, 37:08.920 --> 37:10.860 that word keeps on coming back. 37:11.060 --> 37:15.420 But despite all this good fuckery, we are like, yeah, 37:15.580 --> 37:16.160 thank you. 37:16.520 --> 37:16.940 Thank you. 37:17.160 --> 37:18.340 Very nearest scientific word. 37:21.020 --> 37:23.600 Like we're just, we're not only surviving, 37:23.720 --> 37:26.860 but we're now like what I can feel and understand is we're 37:26.860 --> 37:27.920 starting to thrive. 37:28.420 --> 37:30.340 Like, you know, we're actually starting to thrive. 37:30.460 --> 37:32.520 Yeah, we're not like really fucking thriving yet. 37:32.780 --> 37:35.280 But, but, you know, we're starting to thrive because. 37:35.640 --> 37:35.860 Yeah. 37:36.580 --> 37:40.520 Because we do get to experience amazing things. 37:40.940 --> 37:43.880 And like just when we're not in survival mode, 37:43.940 --> 37:46.260 we can feel the love and the peace. 37:46.260 --> 37:48.660 Yeah, it's cars, it's here and there, 37:48.780 --> 37:52.600 but you know, I can definitely distinguish one from the other, 37:52.740 --> 37:53.840 which is great already. 37:54.060 --> 37:57.060 Because hey, if you can't distinguish it, you're fucked. 37:57.940 --> 37:58.000 Yeah. 37:59.280 --> 38:02.780 Yeah, they don't like, you know, when you're a psychopath, 38:03.760 --> 38:05.800 you're severed from your heart, which is, 38:05.820 --> 38:08.700 I think where the soul kind of connects through in this 38:08.700 --> 38:09.280 reality. 38:09.940 --> 38:11.660 And so they don't understand love. 38:11.820 --> 38:13.400 And that's what we have over them. 38:13.400 --> 38:15.360 And if you think of all the abuse, 38:15.940 --> 38:17.620 like the literal abuse they had, 38:17.780 --> 38:21.140 they have heaped on us in the form of wars and child abuse 38:21.140 --> 38:25.500 and scarcity and poverty and the weather warfare where they 38:25.500 --> 38:27.840 flood here and they burn there and then they blame it on 38:27.840 --> 38:28.560 climate change. 38:28.840 --> 38:31.880 The assault is, I mean, it's a lot of effort. 38:32.180 --> 38:33.620 It's a lot of money. 38:33.800 --> 38:34.820 It's a lot of time. 38:35.280 --> 38:35.720 Why? 38:36.520 --> 38:40.340 Because we're actually inherently more powerful than them. 38:40.560 --> 38:42.160 And also because we have love. 38:42.160 --> 38:45.260 And we have that heart connection and that connection to the 38:45.260 --> 38:47.460 creator, which is within, you know, 38:47.520 --> 38:50.260 and they don't understand that and they're scared of that. 38:50.480 --> 38:53.820 And so even with all the abuse that humans have suffered, 38:53.960 --> 38:56.300 like there's an unnatural disaster. 38:56.600 --> 38:57.940 And then what does everybody do? 38:58.040 --> 38:59.480 They run out and help the other people. 39:00.300 --> 39:01.540 That's the human soul. 39:01.760 --> 39:02.660 That's the human being. 39:03.280 --> 39:05.440 They cannot understand that and they cannot, 39:05.940 --> 39:07.060 they have not been able. 39:07.340 --> 39:07.560 Yeah. 39:07.700 --> 39:07.920 Okay. 39:08.000 --> 39:08.640 And some people, 39:08.640 --> 39:11.000 but in most people they haven't beaten that out of us. 39:11.540 --> 39:15.060 And that's what we're going to rise on is that aspect of us. 39:15.580 --> 39:16.460 And you know, 39:16.920 --> 39:19.460 goodbye because they don't even belong on this planet. 39:19.760 --> 39:20.420 They need to leave. 39:22.360 --> 39:23.180 True that. 39:23.580 --> 39:24.020 True that. 39:24.380 --> 39:24.500 Wow. 39:25.100 --> 39:28.260 I think that's a perfect place to end the conversation. 39:28.960 --> 39:29.760 But like, 39:29.860 --> 39:32.200 I could keep talking to you for the next 50 hours, 39:32.420 --> 39:32.880 but you know, 39:33.180 --> 39:35.800 I might just go and watch the seminars instead so you can do, 39:36.000 --> 39:36.720 get on with your life. 39:37.840 --> 39:38.660 Oh, wow. 39:38.900 --> 39:40.860 Thank you so much for again, 39:40.920 --> 39:41.680 for your courage, 39:41.900 --> 39:42.620 your inspiration, 39:42.680 --> 39:45.800 for having this conversation with me and all the listeners that 39:45.800 --> 39:47.780 are going to listen to it. 39:48.120 --> 39:49.660 And just being, yeah, 39:49.760 --> 39:50.480 just such a, 39:50.480 --> 39:52.560 such a force and light. 39:53.400 --> 39:53.900 Wow. 39:55.260 --> 39:56.220 Thank you, Val. 39:56.600 --> 39:56.780 You know, 39:56.820 --> 39:58.440 we're all a force and a light. 39:58.520 --> 40:00.660 And I would just encourage everyone to, 40:01.600 --> 40:02.260 you know, 40:02.360 --> 40:06.280 heal your trauma and remember who you are because we all came 40:06.280 --> 40:08.260 here to be a part of this awakening. 40:09.040 --> 40:10.860 And instead of a great reset, 40:11.040 --> 40:12.020 it's a great awakening. 40:12.680 --> 40:16.080 and so step into that because we, 40:16.160 --> 40:18.900 we need as many people as we can and the faster, 40:19.120 --> 40:20.540 the more people that do this, 40:20.600 --> 40:21.940 the faster this shifts. 40:22.320 --> 40:23.680 So, you know, 40:23.900 --> 40:24.760 I, I'm just, 40:25.120 --> 40:25.620 I'm, 40:26.260 --> 40:27.860 I have faith in humanity. 40:28.640 --> 40:29.520 Me too. 40:30.180 --> 40:30.560 Me too. 40:31.360 --> 40:32.160 All right. 40:32.260 --> 40:33.260 Well, thank you so much. 40:33.280 --> 40:34.220 Thanks to the listeners. 40:34.480 --> 40:35.360 If you've loved this 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