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There's only gonna get a wall of t-shine and a breeze

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Starts with a simple question

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and ends in objective reality

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Through our journey from there to here

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we find one another and ourselves

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And as the next 24 hours breaks free from our last

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we gaze onward in reflection of the day

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Help your own people, help your own people

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Welcome to the Daily Wrap-Up

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Friday August 14th, 2026

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Thank you for joining me today

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Have a few updates I want to get into before we get right into the show

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The obvious title explains itself

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There's an important executive order that I want to discuss

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I'm sure you've all seen

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And what it really creates into the guise of fighting criminality

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Which is pretty common for our government

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And governments at large

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And I'm going to talk about some of the things we discussed

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Importantly around the cyber security, spyware conversation

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How that connects to Trump's administration

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How that ties to ICE

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How that connects to the larger surveillance apparatus

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And of course some updates on Iran today

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But a couple of things I want to update you on to begin

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I'm going to talk about in the beginning

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A recent thing we just put out today

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Primarily Whitney, I think she's posting it actually

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She posted on Telegram today

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On elsewhere tomorrow, I guess

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And I think she got involved with an interview

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Who wasn't able to do it

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And then Derek and myself are going to be posting it today

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Which is the, I guess, artificial intelligence

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Transparency pledge

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Now we have the IMA

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Like outstanding tool that we put out there

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For everybody to utilize

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I'm going to talk about that in a second

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And also want to update some things on recently

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I talked about it with Steve on the A&M wake up

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But what I've been dealing with in regard to my father

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Which is why I've been a little bit absent

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In what's going on

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I just wanted you guys to update you

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Who didn't hear it on the show about

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Just very briefly

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About something we talked about with my father

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Was in the hospital

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Who ultimately went in

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Dealing with the blockage

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Was kind of backed up

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And ultimately had bio-building up in his stomach

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And didn't know what it was

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Thought it was cancer, went through this whole process

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Something very common, as I understand it

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Which is why they probably looked that direction

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Turned out not to be what they thought it was

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Long story short after months of treatment

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And all the money and everything else

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All they ultimately did was conduct a bypass

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Around the duodenum and the pancreas area

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Where basically just circumventing

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What was causing the problem

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And then ultimately sent him home

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Now what did I tell you when we talked about it last

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I said well you know me

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I don't have a lot of faith in the system

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Especially after we went through

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And actions I've seen taken in hospitals

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But ultimately I said

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If he goes home and he gets better

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And never has this problem again

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Well this was a success

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As much as I still may disagree with the way they do things

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Western medicine that would have been a success

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However if the problem continues

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And comes back well then that's not a success

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That was just some financial profit

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For the industry of the medical

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For the hospital

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For an invasive surgery

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That was not dealing with the problem

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And even to this very moment

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Which may shock people

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People don't even believe me when I tell them this

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They still to this day do not know

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What's causing the problem

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Now that's not that uncommon

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It's crazy anyway but the point is

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They're continually driving him in the direction

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Of invasive surgical options

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Without even knowing what the problem is

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In many ways there are things that we believe

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Could be taken to find out what the problem is

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That they're not even trying to accomplish

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And so he's back in the hospital

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And they just put him through another surgery

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And unfortunately it looks like

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Another one is in the wings

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And what they were just telling him

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Is what a lot of people were telling me back in the first

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Point which is now they're basically saying

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Like this is your life

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You know how to have a bag outside like the whole thing

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Even though they sold him on the idea that the surgery

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Would bring him back to his normal life

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Now who knows best of intentions and all that

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We still believe we're dealing with some kind of

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An autoimmune issue which is even what

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The doctors argued is likely

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But still have yet to even look further to find out

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I'm not a doctor

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You know I could be missing something

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But what's very frustrating about the whole thing

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Is that it's something that we could have seen

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We could have

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Gotten around in the beginning before we got

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Into multiple surgeries and the financial

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Industry that goes around all of that

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And only ending up with the same problem that

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Continued. Now

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Not to get too much into it because you know

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Not everybody you know this is personal

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But it's just so incredible to watch

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This continue to happen and to watch the people

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You know in a system we all can see

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We can acknowledge, we can

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Outline peer-reviewed science has covered

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What we're dealing with and whether

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We're talking about the surgical options and

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You know look post COVID let's be real

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Leading cause of death in this country is medical

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Treatment it used to be three let's not pretend

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It's not one after COVID-19

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But let's talk about all the rest of it the shots

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Themselves statins I mean you name it

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It's clear that we can

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We're not being

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Honestly

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Engaged with by the authorities

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With any number of these conversations

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Especially when it comes to health

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Now I feel like it's relevant in general to what

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We're going to talk about today but nonetheless

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I just wanted to point that out for people

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Because that's where we are right now and I'm

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Frankly pretty terrified what's going to happen

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But I'm you know we're doing our best

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And he's more amenable to us because he

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Has a lot of reverence for the industry

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My late grandfather was a doctor

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And so it's hard to get past that

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But anyway if you guys have any advice

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You have any thoughts I mean I'm

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Rarely get back to all of it but you know

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How to reach out let me know if you've got somebody

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In the area that you might think may help

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We're looking for a specialist now to actually get some

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In-depth you know

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Look at it from a perspective of possible

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Vaccine injury from a possible auto

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Unissue that's being ignored and all of that

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But so that's what we've been dealing with in general

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On that side of it now another update

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I want to include which is where we're going to start

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The show today which was around the IMA

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Now I'm actually just going to play the thing we put out today

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But I think it's very important to not just

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Play this but to talk about it and understand

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Where it's coming from because there's a lot of

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You know and I understand that skepticism

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And hesitation about anything that outlines

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Some kind of a you know

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We'll get into it and read it and it'll be clear

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But the way to look at this

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In regard to what we're going to talk about which is our IMA

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Transparency pledge that I would argue

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Is very clear I don't see a

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World in which anybody can frame

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Radical transparency

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Or honesty

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Ever as a bad thing

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And that's important to understand

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Is that we're there

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Oh I'm making sure

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Hold on let me double check everything is

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Actually live here for a second

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Make sure you guys are actually wild

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No it looks like that's not playing

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Isn't that interesting

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Hold on let me double check

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A couple of things really quickly while you guys are here

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It does look like

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Let me know in the chat if you guys are there

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Whether or not you're seeing

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The live show

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I'm just checking rumble it looks like

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YouTube's not playing

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Okay okay we're good on the

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Rumble

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We're good on rumble so

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I'm not sure what else isn't playing on there

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But let me know in the chat if you guys are having problems

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You know for those that have been watching this show

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We deal with this every single time so let's just keep going

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But the point is to discuss this from a point

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Of where the world is going

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Right we have artificial intelligence that is being

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Thrust into our lives no matter what we want

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Seemingly and so obviously

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We get a lot of people in the community

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They're saying you know there's just so much as

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Become I just I don't even like the term quite

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Frankly but so commonly used

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AI slop everywhere

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And it's obvious right in some

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Cases and others it's a little bit more surreptitious

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And so people are worried that there is content

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Out there being created

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And knowingly in the sense of

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Whether I mean AI content being created

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And being sold to you as it's not AI

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But the problem is that's not all of it's even malicious

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There may be thought they're using it to manipulate you

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But there may be people out there who think

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They're doing good with it and maybe they are

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I have a hard time believing

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In the endpoint that's where it would go but

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My point is that we know that this stuff is misleading

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People it's

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Algorithmically channeling people into certain information

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Rather than the omission of specific information

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And so it ends up misguiding people

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Misleading you and they become overly dependent on how

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These things work and so we thought it

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Was important as the IMA as

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Individuals to put this forward and say

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You know and highlight why we think it's important

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Simply to be transparent

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About the use here about your

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Use of AI

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Specifically chatbots large language

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Model kind of stuff

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And I think that's very important so

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To get into that and of course like I said we're going to

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Get into the other topics we mentioned actually first

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What I wanted to highlight on just on this segment

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In general since it overlaps with Whitney

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Who we're going to talk about Derek and I recently

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Recorded as I mentioned to you our first

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Episode of open source

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And this was originally this is why

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I actually kind of soft rolled on the TOCA article

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As I kind of briefly pointed to in the last show

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That was going to be our original focal point

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And then we decided to do it on the

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Number one specific part 16

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Of the sustainable development goals

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Article that they wrote years ago

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Because it's wildly relevant and pertains to

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The global governance as clearly

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Being driven by Trump's administration including

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In addition to every other government

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That's a part of the global apparatus

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We're talking about but it was a great

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Discussion my point of bringing it up for

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Is that I had forgotten that it was so

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Basically this is a podcast for in the minute

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Hangout that Whitney's putting on

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Using Derek and I as the hosts so going

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Over their work and so it'll be kind of a

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Routine thing where we go over larger

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Articles and do our best to make it

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Under an hour that's the whole point so

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It's not longer than actually reading the article

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At the very least that you can listen to

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While you're driving but ultimately

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They are going to be putting it out so

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I think right now they're possibly putting

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Out one more thing and the next week this will come out

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Otherwise it'll be coming out in about a week

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But ultimately it's going to be not immediately

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That's why the so just

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It'll be coming out soon look forward to it

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Make sure to you know

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It'll be an interesting show I'm looking forward

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To Derek and I had a great time going over this

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Now

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2024 we announced the independent

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Media alliance for those that don't know

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Now I'm not going to go through all this

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But the simple point was an idea

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Because of the pre

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Trump second administration

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And kind of Israel war and all the different things

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That were going on and as we talked about

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We felt this really clear push to attack

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People who were starting to break down

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The two-party illusion people who were

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Starting to call out major central parts

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To the larger illusion not just within left

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Or right and we got called black

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Pilled and all the purity test allegations

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And all the stuff we went through which are

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And we were absolutely correct on everything

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We outlined in this point

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Now that's not to say we're right about everything

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Nobody is but the reality being

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That we were shown to be correct

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About the aiming from this point

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And why it was necessary

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The fake new media

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Independent alternative media being

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The primary culprit

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Now that is included just to point out

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That this is something that the IMA is now putting forward

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Now I'm going to watch this first

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And actually let's just do

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We're all read through this first so it's more clear

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So I put this out on T-Lab

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Derek put this out on his as well, Whitney

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Putting on hers as well. The Independent Media Alliance

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Announces an AI transparency pledge

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Now in September 2024

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Whitney, Ryan, Derek created

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The Independent Media Alliance

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A collaborative effort focused on

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Promoting objective fact-based media

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From a diverse team of journalists

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Podcasters, writers and just as

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Efforts to manipulate alternative media journalists

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And their audiences kicked into high gear

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In the lead up to the US presidential election

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Of that same year

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From the beginning the IMA's emphasis has been

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On countering narratives being seated within

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This alternative and quote media space

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Including but not limited to as we started

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With new party illusion

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Support for imperial wars

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Fifth generation warfare, technocratic solutions

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To legitimate problems and we talked about

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These things as a broad sense

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Now I'm sure people disagree with

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Just saying that these things are

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But this was how I mean understanding

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That there's a false paradigm

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Is not debatable in my opinion

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Doesn't mean it's all encompassing

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But it's about being able to acknowledge that

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Support for imperial wars is something that seems

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Pretty obvious that yet is not actually

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How people feel. That's a little Trump game

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Right now or the fifth generation warfare

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Dynamic and how it's being used against us

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Through the new media and all of this stuff

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Now the IMA efforts were meant to build consistency

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As alternative media in the years prior

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To 2024 had largely been against

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Imperialism, digital tyranny

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And international U.S. presidential policies

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With 2024 we saw efforts to

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Undermind what we believe were fundamental

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Precepts of representing a real

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Alternative to the mainstream media

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Which has frequently manufactured consent

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For war and the erosion of civil liberties

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And constitutional rights

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While also framing federal policies and

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Elections as the preferred if not

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Only solution to our collective problems

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Over the last two years the IMA

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Has held monthly panels and debates

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Featuring alliance members and guests

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With the goal of dissecting these narratives

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In the hopes of providing a nuanced perspective

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To our collective audiences

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While the IMA has seen a positive response

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To our efforts we know we can do much more

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To combat the co-opting of the independent media

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By well funded podcasts and

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Mainstream alternative media platforms

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In furtherance of this goal the IMA

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Is announcing two new yet

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Related efforts that seek

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To provide new avenues for our collective audiences

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To free their news feeds from big tech interference

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In creating the IMA the criteria

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We originally used to choose members

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Was based on which individuals and outlets

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Do not fall prey to the following narratives

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Lies associated with COVID-19

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The lies associated with party illusion

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The lies justifying the Israeli genocide

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In addition to these essential points

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We have come to believe that it is necessary

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To refine the criteria under which

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The IMA operates

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We believe that this alliance of independent

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Critical thinkers and journalists should be

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Refined from the above to not only include

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Those original ideas but to express

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More given recent developments

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The new proposed IMA criteria are as follows

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Members of the IMA believe that no

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Government, political party, or block

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Of nations represents a savior from the

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Villains of the old world

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Or their efforts to create a new one

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This is because we recognize that the

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Issues we face are largely driven

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By transnational networks of oligarchs

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And allied organizations

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Have committed numerous

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State crimes against democracy

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Have manipulated our world for generations

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And have attempted to infiltrate alternative

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News and media in order to distract

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Would-be dissidents from this reality

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This same transnational network

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Is driving and enabling mass

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Murder across the world recently in Gaza

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Lebanon and Iran

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While also controlling the big tech firms

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And platforms that have been weaponized

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To centralize control over news

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And the free flow of information

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We recognize that because of this control

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Of our big tech, these criminal oligarchs

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Also dominate and largely control

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Artificial intelligence, which is being

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Weaponized against the masses and being used

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To undermine true independent journalism

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As a consequence, we believe

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That our audiences have a right to know

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What outlets are using AI for their work

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And to what extent

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In keeping with these revised criteria

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Of the IMA as stated above, the IMA

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Plans to introduce this new AI

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Transparency Pledge, a commitment

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To our readers and listeners that we will

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Disclose if and how

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We use AI, and if not

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I just read that weird, if we use

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AI or not, and if so, to what extent

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Please read the full IMA

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Transparency Pledge

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Now this is ultimately the point about the

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AI, but obviously you can see the relevance

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Of understanding why the

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Artificial intelligence element is so

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Important to what we were already discussing

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Now, again

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To be clear, this is about simply

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Choosing if to or not, it's not going

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To be forced on anybody, including even the

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Members of IMA, it's their choice if they want

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To sign on to the pledge to be transparent

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About the use of AI, and I want to

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All point out more in a second, but realize

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And this is not even about, there are parts

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Of the members of the IMA who've already

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Decided they don't want to sign on to this

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And not because they don't support this

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In fact, explicitly stating a hundred

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Percent agree with the incentive, the point

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Is there's other reasons of not wanting

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To pledge to something or not wanting, or

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Having a different nuance or direction

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The bottom line is it's not about being

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Pro or not AI in this context, it's

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Context, it's about simply being

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Deciding to sign a pledge to your

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Audiences to be transparent with its use

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Now, again, maybe the others that are

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Going to decide to do their own thing

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Which is, by the way, what some are

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Going to do, so I just want to be clear

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About that, this is not meant to be

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Some kind of lined in the sand in that

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Sense, now it continues, rather the

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Pledge itself says the IMA recognizes

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The rising threat of AI as well

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As that of AI adjacent tools and their

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Use of data sets harvested by

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Illegal surveillance programs and other

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Actors will allow for transnational

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Alligarchs and would-be technocrats

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The opportunity, excuse me

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Would allow transnational alligarchs

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And would-be technocrats the

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Opportunity to manipulate public

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Perception and thus reality

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To a degree never before witnessed

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We stand wholeheartedly opposed to the

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Use of AI to cognitively diminish

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The critical thinking and intellect of

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Its users, something which transnational

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Alligarchs and their allies have openly

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Admitted to, and we are also

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Opposed to the use of AI as a weapon

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Of surveillance and as a primary agent

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For predictive policing, i.e.

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Pre-crime. We also stand firm against

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The hidden externalities that will

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Likely result from the rapid expansion

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Of AI tools, including the destruction

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Of the natural environment and essential

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Resources, e.g. water supplies, as well

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As the replacement of human labor

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With AI and AI-powered machines

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Making much of the human population

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Exploidable and even expendable in the

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Eyes of the Alligarchs. Journalistic

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Outlets and individual journalists who choose

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To partner with the IMA

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With the IMA commit to disclosing

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To their audiences if they forgo the use of

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AI tools or if they use them

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For those that choose to use AI

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Outlets and journalists will disclose how

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AI is used, e.g. in the

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Research process, in the production of

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Their written articles, emails, etc.

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Whatever they decide to use it for, the point

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Is if you sign this, you'll simply make it clear

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To what degree and where.

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By committing to this pledge, outlets are committing to

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Commit complete transparency about

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AI use or lack thereof.

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So far here who has signed on.

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Finally, we offer to any and all independent

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Journalists, content creators out there,

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Indimedi outlets to take this pledge

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Or make your own pledge for your audiences

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Regardless of any formal IMA

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Affiliation.

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So the bottom line is this is a tool

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That we would like to put out. What you're

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Going to see from me is this symbol.

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It'll make it clear that there was no AI

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Used in any kind. You know it's

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Like the no animals harmed in this product

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Like that's what you're going to find this on

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Stuff that we put out to make the point.

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And this is all encompassing.

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Now remember we were using

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Images largely because

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I found it a unique tool to work

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Around the copyright allegations that

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Were unjust in the first place.

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But because of the importance of this

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And even though I don't argue that using

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Images is not even a like in my

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Mind, it's about the creation of content

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Allowing this to think for you.

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But you could argue that's a small nuance.

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And so I just simply said I'm none.

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I've made the decision for personal

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Choice for my you know for T lab

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And what for there not to be any

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And everyone can make those choices for themselves.

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So I've also added as Derek as well

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Basically our AI policy spot

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Which you'll see on the website now just to post

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A similar thing and then just I really

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Just posted the transparency

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Section of this and simply

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Posted for our T lab version

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As of this date forward T lab commits

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To never using AI large language models

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And the creation of content of any form

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Seems that's pretty simple. Now again

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Should I decide to change that the simple

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Reality becomes I'm just pledging to

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Be transparent about that but of course

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My point is I don't see a world in

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Which that'll happen and this is exactly

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By the way why some people just don't want to

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Commit to something that they don't know in the future

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Will change and I understand that so

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I very I really want to stress about not

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Making this to be some kind of a line in the

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Sand because there's people with good intentions

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That may be right same like use the internet

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Of using it to fight back or you creating

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AI to fight the other one I mean I don't

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Want to get into that I don't agree with that

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From my perspective but who's to say that

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I'm right about this it's a port you know

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You guys can decide for yourselves now

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I'm going to play the clip of our

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Discussion just so many minutes long about

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Just kind of walking through this and our opinions on it

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And we'll get into starting from there

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The connection well a quick couple points about

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Some mRNA shots coming and then we'll get into

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The cyber security conversation

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Hey everyone this is Derek Bros with the

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Conscious Resistance Network and I'm here with

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My friends and colleagues Ryan Christian of

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The Last American Vagabond and Whitney Webb

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Of a limited hangout and we are all part

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Of the Independent Media Alliance in fact

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Some of you may know that two years ago

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In 2024 the three of us founded

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The IMA this was part of our effort

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To bring together independent journalists

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Contact creators and podcasters who we

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Thought had their heads on straight

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When it came to the Gaza issue

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The two party paradigm and of course

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COVID 1984 and since that time

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We've been hosting panels we've been

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Bringing people together to discuss

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Important issues and trying to break through narratives

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That are being seated in the independent

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Alternative media and it's been a great success

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But today we're coming to let you know

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We have a brand new initiative that we're launching

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Right now called the Independent Media Alliance

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AI Transparency Pledge

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We're really excited about this so Ryan

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Won't you tell everybody what this is all about?

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Yeah we're very excited about this because

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It's something we've been talking about for quite a long time

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We had a couple panels where it came up

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It was clearly something that was expressed in the communities

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People are having a hard time telling

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What is and is not artificial intelligence

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Where it's been used, where people

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Allowed it to think for them and so

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This kind of developed, Derek really spearheaded this

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To develop a pledge or to really just

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Outline very specifically whether

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Where, how and where you're using it

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To simply be transparent about

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Your use of artificial intelligence

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And it's a tool really

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That we wanted to put out in the community for people

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To choose to use for their own communities

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For their own platforms and started by the IMA

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And the idea being something that you can choose

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To outline on, you know, we'll have

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Our own pledges we're going to post on our websites

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To outline how this will be outlined

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For our specific websites but the idea

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Is simply just to be honest about your use

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A pledge to be honest about how AI

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Is or is not used in your content

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And I think everybody wants that right now

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So very important time to ring it out

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Yeah, and I definitely agree, Ryan

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I think this is really important for readers

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Right to know instead of trying to rely

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On like other VC funded

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AI startups

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Trying to distinguish stuff for people

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It, we

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In developing relationships

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With our readers and our audience

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We want to be open and transparent

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And so do the other people that are signing onto this pledge

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Which again is not exclusive to the IMA

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Anyone can

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Agree to it and develop

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Their own AI use policy

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On their website just to let readers

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Know how they are using it

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If they are using it at all

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And, you know, there's no

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You can't really go wrong with radical

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Transparency and radical truth

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I think a lot of us in the IMA

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Are very committed to that

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To those feelings and so

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I think this is a great

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Move in an

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In an era where AI

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You know is impersonating people

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And also, you know

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Trying to drown out real voices

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That are trying to hold power to account

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Absolutely, so wherever

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You're watching this you'll see the text to the

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Full IMA pledge that the three of us put together

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With the help of other IMA members

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And again the idea is that this is

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Just pushing this out into the

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Sphere of the alternative media

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If you're a content creator a journalist

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Podcaster and you would like to be transparent

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With your audience which we hope you would

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Again, whether you use AI or not

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We're not telling you what to do

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We're just saying how about we be transparent about this

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I've already got my AI use policy

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On theconsciousresistance.com

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Everybody here will have the same

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And if you want to be a part of that

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Please do let us know or start your own pledge

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Circulate the pledge, that's the idea

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We just want to really get this conversation going

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Because as we all know it's going to become

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Increasingly difficult to determine

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What is human and what is AI

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And we think that's by design

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And I will say everywhere that I've shared this idea

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The audience you guys out there have been very receptive

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It seems like you all want transparency

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And you are all sick of reading

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Or watching something and knowing

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That was probably made with AI

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But that it's not being disclosed

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And so that's what this is really about

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We're not trying to attack anybody who's choosing

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To use AI in one way or another

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We're just saying let's be open

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Let's be honest about it

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I'll add to that that I think

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On the back of what you said there Derek

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It's very important to hear that

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We all three have our opinions

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About how it should be

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Taking an all or nothing kind of a stance

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In a time where it seems important

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But that's the point of this pledge

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Is about just simply demonstrating to what degree you are

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And not necessarily criticizing others for their stance

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And so the point is that there's going to be

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Varying degrees of that use

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I myself have been using images lately

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And my point is because of this pledge

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In the direction of it I've decided to not do that anymore

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But there are varying degrees out there

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People that use it in ways that I argue

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Aren't necessarily a violation

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Of how I would argue is the most important part

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To focus on which is the thinking for you

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Creating content using AI

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And there are people out there that may

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Use AI to fight back

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And so the point is simply about being clear

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About how it's being used

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Not necessarily criticizing those who find a way to use it

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That's for individual choices out there

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But I think that's important

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Yeah, just one other thing to add

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Before you share a little more Whitney

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I think that the three of us

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Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

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But I think besides the general pledge about transparency

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That the three of us here though

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Have all committed to not using AI

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In the production of our articles

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And the writing of our content

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For me that includes emails, social media posts

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We're not using AI to produce our videos

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To make music for us

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All those kinds of things

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That's our particular commitment here

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Everybody else will have their own way

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Of approaching this pledge

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Yeah, I guess

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Just to add more information to that

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We have some people that are using

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In the IMA for example

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That have signed onto the pledge

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And are going to have a use policy

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For example use AI for spell checking

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Maybe the occasional thumbnail

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Things like that

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But in general, regardless of

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How you're using it

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In my opinion and in our opinion

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It's about the reader's right

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To know because

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This should be about the audience

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Informing the audience

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And it's important to inform

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The audience about how we're doing our work

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With this new tool

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Being so widely available

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And used by people

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And also being used

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In ways that have raised concerns

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Among a lot of our shared readership

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About in terms of how

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People are

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Using those tools

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To potentially do things

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That readers may not necessarily like

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So this is about

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Disclosing so that readers can choose

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What content they're consuming based on their

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Own preferences and their own opinions about AI

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And a lot of readers may not

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Be affected by this at all

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But there are some that care

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And there are some that care a little bit

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And only care about certain things

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So the goal again is radical transparency

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About how we're using AI

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And

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What we

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And that we think people outside

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Of the IMA should also consider having

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Their own

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AI use policies

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And that's why we've made this pledge pretty much

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Open to everybody

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Yeah, absolutely. So if you're hearing this

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And you have a favorite content creator

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Journalist Podcaster and you would like them to

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Be transparent, maybe send them this video

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Send them the text of the pledge

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And invite them to participate in

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This whatever capacity they will

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Before we wrap up Whitney did you want to share

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I know that you are probably the most

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Faked person on the internet

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Using this tool that we're all talking about

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This directly impacts you in terms of

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Transparency and being able to determine

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When an AI is used and not used

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Maybe you want to speak to that before we wrap up

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Yeah, well obviously of course

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The fact that it's been so heavily used

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To impersonate me and associate

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Me with things I've never said

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And I feel like in a lot of ways

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It's been used to kind of attack my credibility

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And reputation that I've worked

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Really hard for for like a decade

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You know obviously that color

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Is my opinion a little bit and I

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Understand that not everyone is going to

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Feel that way but personally I

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Feel like I'm being pushed and I think

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A lot of this broader discussion

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That the pledge is sort of related

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To about efforts to decide

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For these different

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Companies or institutions

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Or sites to sort of say

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What's AI generated and what isn't

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Is to basically push

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Humans to verify

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Most likely through something

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Like digital ID or something so you can

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Prove it's the real you and obviously

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Because I'm a big years

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Long critic of digital ID

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And related infrastructure

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I have felt that a lot of the AI

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Impersonation just like the extreme

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Scale of it

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Targeting me

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And my content

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Has been sort of used to try and push me

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To verify in those

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Ways which I have not

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You may think that for example if you follow me

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On twitter or x that I

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Verified by uploading my

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ID I because of my follower

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Account I was given a badge so I

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Didn't do that but anyway it's been

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Challenging to see all of that proliferate

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And you know

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Feel like I'm being pushed to do

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Something that compromises my

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Values so the best you know all I can

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Really do is let people know where to

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Find you know my stuff

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And not every you know a lot of people

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Still get tricked by it

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But ultimately all we can do is try

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And have our you know

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Readers and followers

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Go back to the source of where our content

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Is made and look

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For things like an AI you know

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Use policy and know that

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You know I personally don't use it

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In my work and if you see something

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That seems AI generated including me

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I did not have anything to do with it

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So I guess that's one example at least

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You know in my personal case of why

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I feel like this pledge is important

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For me personally so people

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Can distinguish between a lot of this content

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That is generated and also

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Because YouTube is labeling content

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As AI or not they know that I

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Didn't have anything to do

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With it or at least I can help you

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Know change the percentage

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Of people that know by having

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It on my side.

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Great yeah thank you for sharing that

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Ryan do you have any other closing thoughts

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Before we wrap up and get out of here for today

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Just to kind of put a fine point to what

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You're saying there I mean it's such an obvious

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You know because right now there's a lot of concern with these

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And rightly so of these kind of

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Problem reacting solution situations to trick

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People into calling for

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Verification of AI and that's exactly

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What he's highlighting is this one of these kind of ideas

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And what we're hearing a lot about are these

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AI or not checkers from

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Mainstream elements that are misrepresenting

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People as AI and so

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And there's a lot of concern that this somehow is similar

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The point is this is a

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Effective tool against

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That and I want to make you know

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Really highlight why that's so important is

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We're talking about being transparent

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Of the use that you can then publicize

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In a way that then is counteracting the ability

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To then be labeled otherwise and of course

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That's still going to happen and those tools from the

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Corporate media and you know establishment

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Are there for the very purposes of censoring

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People but if we're getting ahead of it

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With being transparent about it to me that's

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Like the antidote to where this is going

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One of the many we're going to have to find I argue

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As this thing gets worse digital

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Idea and everything else but that's where this comes

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From is a solution to that problem that's building

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Around us and again I don't see how anybody

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Could find a problem with being radically transparent

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Or honest and that's something that we

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Strive to be so thank you

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Yeah perfect all right guys

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Well thank you all for being here today for joining

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Us stay tuned for more updates from

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The internet you are going to launch an official website

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Very soon working on some other projects stay

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Tune for more panels of course you can find

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Ryan at thelastamericanvagabond.com

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The real Ryan and you can find the real Whitney at

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Unlimitedhanghelp.com and myself at

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Theconsciousresistance.com

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Well that's where we're going to leave it for today

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And again hope to see you guys out there

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And we're still here

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In case that wasn't clear

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For those just tuned in that was an episode

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I am wearing the same coat that was from earlier

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Today but you know I just felt that was

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Important and I think it's really important

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To address a little bit further you know in the idea

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Of what we're talking about I mean what she

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Pointed out it's really important as well

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It's weird timing right now

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All these platforms for those that are doing content

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Creation, YouTube

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They're now giving you an option to clay AI

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Or not and so what's interesting is that this

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Is clearly I argue a

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Two things recognizing

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That's what people want first of all

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And then you know and using it against them is

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Where I would see it going not that they would do that

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Just for you but ultimately seeing that we're calling

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For it but then you know the idea being

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And this is you know call me the conspiracy theorist

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People do I think it's obvious that it's not

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About caring whether or not they disclose

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This from a corporate level

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But ultimately finding a way to use it

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Like we just saw and I'm going to get into that

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Right now and this is what was

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Originally put forward as one of the

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Concerns from some people out there

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About what this you know might

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Be represented as what we're doing

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And that's why I think it's very important

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To highlight the point which is simply

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Just radical honesty

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You know I use this I don't

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I use to this degree

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When you make it clear there's no way

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That could be misframed but in this case

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What people are concerned about

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And this is not new this is from April 3rd

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The AI detector as

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Defamation machine now honestly

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I thought I was going to read through this but I think

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The real thing for me I mean I will do

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Some of the parts to stand out but it's just simply

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To understand that there are AI tools that are created

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This one's called Pangram

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Which just like you have

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The flock cameras claiming they know that

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You're you and it turns out not to be

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At the very least even if it's accurate

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There's an opening for inaccuracy

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And some of these are 70, 60%

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It's not even viable but what really

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Worries me even if it's 100%

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Accurate is how it can be misused

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And so that's the part that gets into

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Is of course kind of a

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Mainstream writer and mainstream journalist

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Both saying they were misrepresented

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By the thing that said they were using AI

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So I'm almost a little suspicious of that

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In the first place you know as you get

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Into it like let's break it down in two parts

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Pangram or things like it

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Are claiming they can review written content

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And say this is so

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You know this much percentage AI

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To this percentage of certainty

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And I mean obviously and in a general

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Sense that seems like something most people

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Would want but the problem is that how

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That can be used like we're you know

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People are concerned about to drive us to say

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We need things to be verified we need

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Things to be concerned digital IDs

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And whatever else you have to see where that goes

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From a government side now obviously

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None of us are calling for government

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Anything that's obviously counter

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Intuitive to everything we see our entire

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World view but it's about realizing

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As Garak points out from a volunteer's

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Perspective that you know if there's

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Something they're going to be putting

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Into our lives something that we should

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Be doing not necessarily in the same way

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But a way that we can do to get ahead

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Of what they're going to do to us

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And so the bottom line is that people out there

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In a real sense whether or not government exists

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Want something to be able to decipher

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That or at the very least I shouldn't

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Again not decipher it but something

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A tool that can be used to

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From content creator side of it

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To be able to divulge that yourself

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Which is why I argue this is such an obvious

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Sort of tool against that

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Because if we're already being transparent

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About it even though they will use it anyway

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It's something to be said no look I did

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You know this is art it's no AI

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Was used in this at all despite their claims

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Now what's interesting

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Is you also have the mainstream side

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Wall Street Journal and a larger

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Writer saying that they were

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Accused of it and it was wrong

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And the Wall Street Journal writer saying

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And the company was claiming

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They went through all kinds of Wall Street

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Journal articles and writers

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And it was lots of AI and I'm thinking

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Myself probably I mean do we

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Really even question that right now I mean

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Most of these people are using stuff

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Maybe not writing entire articles maybe

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That too I think we know that too but

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At the end of the day for information

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For breaking and correcting sentences

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Like things that ultimately then insert content

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Manipulate the direction and so

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This is what I think is so interesting so it says

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Last month Mrs. Ballard was the writer

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Was thrust from obscurity into notoriety

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When Hatchet a her publisher announced

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That she was canceling her book over

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Accusations that it was generated with artificial intelligence

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This comes from Panagram

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Or Pangram

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Who basically

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Was the one that accused her of using it

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But his evidence was itself authored by AI

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Which clearly creates its own problem

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Even if it's accurate how something

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Could then be inserted into the process

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To manipulate the outcome

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Which is what we've seen people do in authority

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Or just that it's inaccurate

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Which is you know one's more deliberate

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But it amounts to the same problem

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Pangram's namesake product

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Is an AI tool that purports to detect

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AI generated content

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With 99.98% accuracy

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It's classified as 78.3%

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Of her book

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That's what the allegation was

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For many passages it indicates only medium confidence

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Now Mrs. Ballard told a journal reporter

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That she did not personally use AI

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But an acquaintance she hired

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To edit the original self published

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Edition did

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And then she goes but please do your research

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On editors before trusting them with your work

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So is she lying? Is she getting caught

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Using AI to write a book and ultimately

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Shucking it off on her editor?

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Or is that the truth? And if that's the case

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Then what's the real difference to the reader

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If it is the case? And so why is it

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Become an allegation about a lie

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When it seems you know this is all up in the air

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Because who do you trust? Neither of them is the answer

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You question everything

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Wait for facts and if you can't find

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You know you don't just pick a side

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But at the end of the day I think it's clear

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That we know corporate media is using these things

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And that's what I'm going to get into next

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And it's clear that people are using them

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For some parts if not all out there

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And so this becomes a point

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To be made about why and this is where I agree

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With Whitney and the rest of this becomes a justification

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For more ability

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To surveil and confirm

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None of us are calling for that

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Hopefully we don't want that

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It says in November the University of Maryland

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Issued a preprint of academic paper

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Not peer reviewed

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That it says that alleging that three

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Freelance op-ed pieces that this

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Platform

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For this writer and this platform

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Accepted were AI generated

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Now it says this person, the writer, looked into these charges

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And concluded that they were unsupported

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That pan-grammets isn't reliable enough to serve

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On the basis for such accusations

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And I technically agree with that

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And that there is strong possibility that

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Other writers were manipulated

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Now obviously we can see a world in which

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Let's just take an administration that's rife with corruption

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That was clearly misusing its power right now

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Would you use something like this

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To accuse people they want to

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Stifle of doing that

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Imagine this tool was available

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When OzTurk's op-ed was going

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Around about Israel genocide

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They say AI, not that that's even a good example

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Since it wouldn't arguably undermine

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The point of the facts, but you can see

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How this could be used to suppress content

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That people in power wouldn't like

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Or companies, if you're getting

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Called out for something you did

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Norfolk Southern suddenly goes, oh you lying

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Whatever, you can see where this goes

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Now it says pan-gramm pitches its tools

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By publishing

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In media organizations as a way

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To protect editorial integrity

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The Maryland researchers use pan-gramm

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To scan

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Over 250,000 newspaper articles

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Including almost 45,000

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Opinion pieces from this platform

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The New York Times, Washington Post

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They report that they found opinion articles

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Quote, are 6.4 times

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More likely to contain AI

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Which just means, I would agree

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And I wouldn't, I don't think anybody would

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Embark at the idea that these writers

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Are using AI to expedite their process

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If not entirely

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They just go, well it was my idea

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I gave them the facts and they don't see a problem with that

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Now I'm just speaking generally

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Those that don't, that's what they would argue

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We've heard this already

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And it says the study includes a table

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That highlights 18 op-eds among them

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Are three from the journal that were supposedly AI

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Now it's just my first step

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Was to run the article through pan-gramm

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Free scans, through the surprise

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The same tool applied, the same articles produced

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Different results, well doesn't that just sound like

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Every AI or not thing you can find

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Well, yeah it gives you a line

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Maybe it gives you some level of insight

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But it's not consistent, it's not 100%

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So I guess a larger

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A third or fourth point

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Would be simply in the whole dynamic here

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Maybe we're, I mean

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I think this is the problem reaction solution of it

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It's just not ready yet

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And so they drive you into this using 74% accuracy

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So we all go whoa, we want

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Better accuracy instead of going

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How about we don't do this at all

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Just a thought, and it says

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These wildly inconsistent results are enough to discredit

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Any accusation based on their

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And the pan-gram analysis

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I agree, so you can see why that seems

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A little bit wild if they would come out and do that

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But that's why I started with the first part

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Is that I sense that there was some AI used here

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And they even go into this

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It says he said, and this is just quickly

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They go into deeper parts of this

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One of the people they spoke to

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Said he uses chat GPT

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In a limited way

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And it says he pastes in drafts with prompts

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And it says he said he doesn't paste text from the chatbot

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Back into his draft

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But decides for himself which of the suggestions

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To incorporate, so what are we talking about

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The guy literally does AI

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And then takes pieces of it and puts it in his writing

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So he is using AI

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That's exactly the point, but now they're quibbling

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About how, but I didn't do it all with AI

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Well okay, but that's not the same thing though

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Is it? And so now, but see this is the problem

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For people like me, is that now you're going to be

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Led in some subtle ways

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You might not even realize

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But it says, and this is another one

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Sometimes I have copied and pasted them into AI

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With the prompt check for grammar, spelling, accuracy

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Of statements, and this is where you get the syntax

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Consistency

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And it says she also had

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Sometimes pasted AI output back into a draft

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So another one that admitted using AI

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And it says it is inaccurate

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And unfair to characterized work produced

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In the manner described

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As AI generate, is it?

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Okay, well what's the line

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Are we just going 100%

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Created or AI manipulate

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And welcome to the reason that what we're doing

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Is so important

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Not because we're trying to verify anybody

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Not because we're trying to set some kind of line

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But because everybody everywhere

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Sees the need, even corporate platforms

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Who are trying to use it for their benefit

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Of being able to

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Rather being transparent about

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AI use

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And that's the point, and it's not

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Not everyone's going to do that

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Plenty of other platforms are going to choose to ignore it

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Or maybe because they don't agree with our stance

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It's okay, but our point is

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You can guarantee that we will be putting it forward

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No, you should question us too

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Check it, you should

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But the point comes down to the fact

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That you can rely on the fact that we will be being transparent about it

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Unlike a lot

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Out there

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And so that is an important way for this to go forward

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And that's why Derek called another platform to do the same thing

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Using the

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IMA pledge or making one for yourself

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Now it says the opportunity to respond

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Before publishing

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All three writers said they received no such communication

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Which is interesting to me

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Meaning that these people wrote articles about how they used AI

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Without even reaching out to them going

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Hey, is that true?

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You know, that's a journalistic practice

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And it is very clearly part of the due diligence process

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But it's not necessarily required

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It doesn't make you a good journalist

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If you don't check with the person you're accusing of something

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But it's interesting, isn't it?

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And it says continuing the last parts here

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I am in a position to defend my writers and myself

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Of course the platform

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Of course she's going to argue they didn't use AI

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When it seems they did in some at least limited fashion

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But she says, but Payne Graham

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Has shredded the reputation of this writer

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Whose book was supposed to be published

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Now that's a fair point

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Now you can see in the same way

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Even if she did use AI and now she's lying about it

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The point for me is about how it could be used in the future

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Meaning, and I'm not saying that's the case

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But we should question that

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Is that you could come out with a, you know

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Another Whitney Webb's

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Another new book coming out, right?

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All of a sudden they say, well, boot

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You're blocked, your sensor were suppressed

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Because we, you know, and accusing it of being AI

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Wouldn't effectively be a very damaging thing, wouldn't it?

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Even if it's false

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So you can see where this can be used, guys

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Now, I thought that

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There's plenty of these going around, new ones as well

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Very important to consider

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That's why we did this in the first place

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Now, I'm sure more will come around this

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I know, I mean we had two panels

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That ultimately didn't happen, one of which was the

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AI impersonation one

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Whitney was having satellite problems

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And we just kind of put a pin in it because

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She's the main, you know

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It's basically about her being manipulated

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And Catherine as well

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But ultimately that will likely come around

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When Whitney's ready to do that

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But on top of that we're going to be planning on doing

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AI panels about this pledge

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The larger conversation

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And just about where this goes, alright

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And so look forward to that as well

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Now, really quickly

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I just wanted to follow up on this since we didn't get to in the last couple of days

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I know you've seen, I mean

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And generally some of, probably half of what you're going to see today

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Is stuff that many of you already saw in passing

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Because I know you guys are informed

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But I'm sure there are points we can be made today

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That you might not have thought about, I hope so

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So let's get into it

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So first a couple of follow up points on the MLR and A-Shot

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If you didn't see this

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Crazy on August 6, 2026

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We put this out, FDA approves

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mRNA flu shot

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Just still insane to me, I thought Stargate was insane

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You know, here we are with multiple COVID shots

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New mRNA shots, self-amplifying shots

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But he's fighting the vaccines

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But at the end of the day guys

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And of course, you know, I'm not going to get into this now

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But check this out, we went into this in multiple shows

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The Bacteriophane System

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Which I still argue is

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It's the one that went around as AI created viruses

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It's what it is, but it's much more complicated than that

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And I do believe it's connected with the gene function direction

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As other peer-reviewed science argues

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Look into it, it's included here

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It's not getting the right coverage

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Because it's being framed as something different

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Largely in the corporate media

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But on the note of the mRNA shots

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One thing we talked about that I haven't

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You know, again, I wanted to include the next day we talked

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And I forgot actually, was this post

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Because this is now going back around right now

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There's being called conspiracy theorists

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For being concerned about the blood

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You know, the blood banks

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I mean, this is not a new topic guys

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This goes back to the AIDS conversation

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And not because of what people would argue

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But because of the painted blood supply

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As Mikovits and others have talked about

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And so the same kind of dynamic we're talking about here

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Is the fact that they were taking blood

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From people who took COVID shots

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And you may not think that matters

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And of course, as this one says

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American Red Cross 2022

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George was the only survivor of a bad accident as a teenager

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His doctor said it would have been

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Would have, wouldn't have been possible

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Without blood donors

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And this person simply says, is COVID vaccine

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Of blood labeled as such?

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Good question, 2022

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American Red Cross famously posted this

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This is 2022, they've never taken it down

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And I've followed up as we'll show you many times

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We don't label

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Blood products as containing vaccinated

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Or unvaccinated blood as the COVID-19

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Vaccine does not enter the bloodstream

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And poses no safety risk

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Both of which have been

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Unanimously shown to be false

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And just quickly

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I can show you at least two, three

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Which I can't find the other one down there

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Of studies that came out a year later

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The year after that, proving that statement is false

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Which you all know

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SARS-CoV-2 spike mRNA vaccine sequences

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Or others that so specifically spike protein

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Circulate in the blood up to 28 days

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And some which go way beyond that guys

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And these are, here's another one right here

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I mean it's just wild to me, right

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And I keep following up, that was a year later

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This one simply says, and yet another peer-reviewed study

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Finds you're wrong, how is it that we can know this

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And you're still standing by that statement

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Another one, and we found another one, Red Cross

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Do you have the courage to find the event? Of course not

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Hosting crickets, they don't care

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I just find that insane

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And so it's following up to the last conversation we had

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Now understand guys, that the science alone

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Is not, I mean there's so much evidence

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That shows you the spike protein

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Is continually dangerous, that the mRNA see

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I mean we've gone through all of this

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And the science shows you that it continues to be in your blood

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So had they taken blood from somebody who got vaccinated

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Within 30 days

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Or more, the reality that it's likely

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That there would be something in that, right

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It's possible, put it that way

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It's obvious that it's there, and this has happened

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Before, I just want to include that

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Because we had mentioned it, and it is coming back up

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In the conversation, Long Claw

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Commented this going

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And this is another point guys, I mean

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Somebody's calling out that Eli Yacoby guy

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Right now, and plenty of the others

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That are still allowed to do the thing

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X said they were going to stop, which is just

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Spam propaganda, why?

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Because he's propaganding for Zionism and Israel guys

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But Long Claw, my opinion

51:38.920 --> 51:41.400
Simply goes, hey community notes, seems it's about

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Time to correct this inaccurate info

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Which you can prove via peer reviewed science

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Is not accurate

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Of course the two years later, you know

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It's just, it's not there

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They don't respond, why is that, why doesn't

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Grock respond?

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We should ask Grock at this point now, right

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But the whole thing is the same, is that this

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Never followed up, and I

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I'm willing to bet you, well, you know

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We should try with Grock and see what happens

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I'm going to put this down and try that later

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On that note, I thought it was important to remind you

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That here's RFK Junior, whether he's

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Not able to, you know

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Tap twice in the desk if you're in

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Whatever, if you're under duress

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RFK Junior, let us know if you're not allowed to speak

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The point is this was August 10, 2026

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He literally came out and said

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Finally a president who stands for

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Medical freedom, informed consent

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And gold standard science

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The main thing he

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Sold on the idea of gold standard

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Was the saline placebo

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We heard him stress that

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To the ceiling

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And guess what, if you didn't see

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The show, the flu shot they disapproved

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Used literally an older

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Shot

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And yet here he comes after that and says

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Gold standard, I mean how can you

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Be so shameless unless you're not in control

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You decide, that kills me

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Because you know, it's worse for me that he did

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Do good work than somebody who's always been a liar

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Because it's almost worse, it is

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And who knows, guys

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Maybe he's literally being threatened

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I've said it from day one

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We don't know that, we shouldn't assume it

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The reality is, he's playing the game

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Gold standard, I mean you can't make that

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Case and then literally not do it

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And then keep making the statement

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Unless you're a dishonest person

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Tom Fitton, John Solomon

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Points out, and by the way

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I'm actually, we went through this study

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And I hadn't reviewed anybody's content about this

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We went through the study ourselves

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And broke it down for you, that's what I always do anyway

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Because I prefer it that way

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But I broke down the study and told you

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Just on the fly, I was reading through it

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Oh my gosh, look at this, paracarditis

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Compare that to the amount, that's clear

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And I just, I like

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Seeing these things of my own volition

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And then seeing it become something that's

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Roundly talked about, it just shows you

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That we're ahead of these things

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And this one, it takes

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5,000 jabs of Moderna's just approved

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mRNA flu vaccine to prevent

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One more hospitalization, if that's

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Even accurate, I don't argue it is

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Compared to the standard flu vaccine, I mean it's

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Point is it's probably way, way worse than that

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And so all he's highlighting is this is

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You know, bad

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But it says, but the new shot causes six times more

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Injuries

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Tom Fitton says, why did the FDA

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Approve another mRNA jab

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On August 7th, obviously

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Because

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They aren't doing what they promised

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It's obvious, but I'm sure he's asking this

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To get people to look at it, the point is that everybody

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Sees it, here's Joseph Lopato

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From Florida

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And this is Recif Levy saying

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The faculty at Harvard are engaging

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In promoting the new

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Flu vaccine

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Calling out people who are, you know

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Just pushing the thing that is dangerous

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Like I'm not talking dangerous, excuse me

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Dangerous because we think mRNA

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Is dangerous, which we do

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But dangerous because the study itself

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Showed you that it was more dangerous

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Than the one, I mean it's

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The idea becomes use the other

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Vaccine, so when we compare it

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The damage looks like

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It's not as severe compared to things that also

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Caused damage, if you compare it to saline

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Well, it's way more stark and we

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Told you that during COVID and they just

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Did it right in front of you, as Joseph

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Says the same mRNA flu vaccine that caused

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15 times more serious adverse events

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Than the number of hospitalizations it prevented

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Doctors, read the paper

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Not just the abstract, remember when they

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Accused us of doing that?

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Which some do, but it's just

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Pretty clear where this goes, now Toby Rogers

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This was FDA posting on the 6th

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And it says darkest day in the history of the FDA

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A regulatory decision purchased

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By a wealthy donor to the Republican

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Party, Stephen Swarchman

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I don't even think we need

55:35.400 --> 55:36.760
To break down stuff, I mean

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Is anybody confused about Trump being

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A dishonest, grifting president?

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It's not about left and right, it's not about

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Trump first Biden, it's about the objective

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Obviousness of what they're doing and calling

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It out, which I think most people are seeing

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And so I don't even think we need to really

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Make it clear anymore, but I will when it matters

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But like, you know, there's a time where I thought

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We needed to really harp on the idea, look at

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He's stealing from you, he's lying to you

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But then, you know, January, February, March

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Of 2025, we started going

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Well, probably a little bit later than that

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It's clear that the Republicans are turning on him

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The two-party illusion is breaking down

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And I think we were radically ahead of that awareness

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And it's now being kind of casually accepted

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As what everybody sees, remember that

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Mary Tally Bowden

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Old flu shot

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$269.50 for a box of 10, which I still

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Think is insane, the new mRNA flu shot

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That kills more people

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$1,407.50 on a box of 10

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Thanks, Trump and RFK Junior

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You're knocking it out of the park

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Now, another thing to follow up on

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John Fleetwood put this out on the 17th of July

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Moderna injects first participant

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With experimental

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By the way, the other flu mRNA shot

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Is investigational, it's also experimental

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It's listed right on their own documentation

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mRNA 4200 cancer shot

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Yeah, right out of Stargate

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Which is literally

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Oh wait, did I not bring it up? I thought I did

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There it is, which is literally

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One of the first things Larry Allison of Oracle

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Literally broke down for you

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Is

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AI created vaccines

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And they are rushing forward with this

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I mean, Trump literally ran

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And RFK Junior on the idea of stopping these things

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Now

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Here it is, and make sure you read that

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John's doing good work there

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Moderna announces first participant dose

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In phase one clinical trial

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Investigational, again another way to point out

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How clear it is that investigational

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Which you should know means the same thing

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It's an experiment, tumor targeted cancer antigen therapy

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Today announced the dosing of its first

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U.S. participant in phase one study

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Evaluating mRNA 4200

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So guys they're not, I mean it's just obvious

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I'm willing to bet you when this truly comes out

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That we'll find out that it's some overlap

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With self-amplifying because that seems to be the direction

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That they're leaning into, just my guess

57:45.560 --> 57:47.460
Now to get into the point of the spyware

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Which I think is very important

57:49.060 --> 57:50.460
And relevant to the part we started with

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About AI and transparency

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We just talked about this in case you didn't see it

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Palantir partners with major news organizations

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To use your data that they absorb

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With Palantir

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And they call it actionable intelligence

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In their own documentation

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Now we're talking about business insider

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Politico

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Build

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USA Today

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And hundreds of underling papers

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Within them locally all around the country

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Just continue to find this

58:19.300 --> 58:21.160
Insane, so carrying this forward

58:21.160 --> 58:22.720
Something that Orwell shared with me

58:22.720 --> 58:25.180
That goes back to a previous conversation in 2010

58:25.180 --> 58:27.340
Just to kind of show you how long

58:27.340 --> 58:28.620
Like here's the funny thought I had

58:28.620 --> 58:30.580
First of all, this is October 1st, 2010

58:30.580 --> 58:33.540
Army embeds active-duty PSYOP soldiers

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At local TV stations

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Now why I think this is obviously

58:38.020 --> 58:38.980
Relevant and interesting

58:38.980 --> 58:40.260
That it's been going on so long

58:40.260 --> 58:42.160
But really that this is what they had

58:42.160 --> 58:45.680
Under the guise of fighting back

58:45.680 --> 58:46.400
Always like that

58:46.400 --> 58:48.380
But realize that this is what had to be done

58:49.280 --> 58:50.820
I mean this is like talking about

58:50.820 --> 58:52.600
Going from tapping somebody's phone

58:52.600 --> 58:55.040
To just being able to absorb the data

58:55.040 --> 58:56.960
Out of the E3, that's where we are today

58:56.960 --> 58:58.440
And so it's like thinking about this

58:58.440 --> 59:01.000
Even just the one I just showed you

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A Palantir

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Absorbing data from the news organization

59:05.380 --> 59:07.760
I mean it's not even hiding this anymore

59:07.760 --> 59:09.460
This is just the escalation of

59:09.460 --> 59:10.060
Or rather the

59:10.060 --> 59:12.460
I guess the escalation, but the continual

59:12.460 --> 59:15.040
The increase of how this has grown around our lives

59:15.040 --> 59:16.360
And now we have larger

59:16.360 --> 59:18.340
And this is where we're going to get into the next segment here

59:18.340 --> 59:21.340
Where it's gone from just working with this for surveillance

59:21.340 --> 59:23.600
To literally like this fascistic blend

59:23.600 --> 59:25.300
Of these massive corporations

59:25.300 --> 59:27.560
That are arguably almost more powerful than

59:27.560 --> 59:29.240
The government that they're working through

59:29.240 --> 59:31.900
And now are being given the ability to use

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Their

59:33.600 --> 59:35.580
Cyber abilities to attack people

59:35.580 --> 59:37.440
And this is terrifying to me

59:37.440 --> 59:39.280
I mean like truly where this goes

59:39.280 --> 59:40.760
And I forgot to even grab this one

59:42.080 --> 59:43.820
Because obviously this is what we're at

59:43.820 --> 59:45.600
This is the continuation of this very point

59:46.100 --> 59:46.980
Detachment 201

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It's amazing to me how people don't know about this

59:50.340 --> 59:52.360
Literally was, as I've recently talked about

59:52.360 --> 59:54.360
Palantir, Meta and OpenAI being given

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Colonel positions within the U.S. military

59:56.800 --> 59:58.920
Not civilian, not white lab coats

59:58.920 --> 01:00:00.740
Literal, I mean this is a real picture

01:00:00.740 --> 01:00:02.960
That's actually them being sworn in

01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:04.520
As colonels in the military

01:00:04.520 --> 01:00:05.560
And then, you know

01:00:06.820 --> 01:00:08.500
I went over the whole thing with

01:00:08.500 --> 01:00:10.480
Brad Miller who is very

01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:11.540
Very knowledgeable about this

01:00:11.540 --> 01:00:13.100
And I just think it's wild to me

01:00:13.100 --> 01:00:14.800
There's a technocracy in uniform

01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:17.000
Literally you have Mark Andreessen getting a

01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:19.600
Advisor position under Hegseth

01:00:19.600 --> 01:00:21.840
I think I said lucky palm or lucky

01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:23.000
Getting another position

01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:25.480
They're literally becoming the government

01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:27.760
If not already and this is just the illusory

01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:29.180
Veil being removed

01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:33.840
So what's happening now

01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:35.800
As this article titles it

01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:37.900
Trump deputizes private companies

01:00:38.120 --> 01:00:39.860
For offensive cyber strikes

01:00:39.860 --> 01:00:41.060
Against foreign criminals

01:00:41.060 --> 01:00:42.460
Now you might have seen this come out

01:00:42.460 --> 01:00:44.920
August 12th expanding capabilities

01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:46.500
To combat transnational cyber

01:00:46.980 --> 01:00:47.760
Enabled crime

01:00:48.260 --> 01:00:49.760
Cyber enabled which is interesting

01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:50.940
Open to the door just about anything

01:00:50.940 --> 01:00:52.820
But what I think is important here

01:00:52.820 --> 01:00:54.480
First of all remember that these EOs

01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:55.800
As I've always pointed out

01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.020
I mean it's really a suggestion in a large

01:00:58.020 --> 01:00:59.500
Sense when it comes to the way these things

01:00:59.500 --> 01:01:00.940
End up rolling out in a national

01:01:00.940 --> 01:01:02.120
Even global sense

01:01:03.020 --> 01:01:05.180
Executive orders apply to the executive

01:01:05.180 --> 01:01:07.680
Branch Now like we just saw

01:01:07.680 --> 01:01:08.940
With the vaccine point

01:01:09.540 --> 01:01:11.320
Aside from the fact that there was a whole

01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:12.880
Bunch of other holes within that

01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:14.160
That I'm not going to get into today

01:01:14.160 --> 01:01:17.400
I just don't believe this is even what

01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:18.640
They care about when they're pushing other

01:01:18.640 --> 01:01:20.120
MRA shots regardless

01:01:20.120 --> 01:01:22.640
I think they know largely toothless

01:01:22.640 --> 01:01:24.660
Like they're going to continue to do

01:01:24.660 --> 01:01:25.880
As they told you before

01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:28.540
Well then they're all going to do what they want anyway

01:01:28.540 --> 01:01:30.400
So it's ultimately not a real change

01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:32.760
It's just Trump stating what he says he wants

01:01:33.240 --> 01:01:34.360
We're not really doing it

01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:36.600
Like every other hollow promise he's done

01:01:36.600 --> 01:01:37.520
Now look I hope I'm wrong

01:01:37.520 --> 01:01:38.840
Even in just that one example

01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.000
Because you need to break up the MMR shot

01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:42.900
And whatever else as RFK Junior literally

01:01:42.900 --> 01:01:44.780
Just said days before that

01:01:44.780 --> 01:01:47.160
That he recommends the MMR shot

01:01:47.160 --> 01:01:49.060
There's no way to say that without acknowledging

01:01:49.060 --> 01:01:50.200
That means all three of them together

01:01:50.200 --> 01:01:51.140
That doesn't make any sense

01:01:51.140 --> 01:01:52.900
There's something amiss guys

01:01:52.900 --> 01:01:55.220
So what this opens the door to

01:01:55.220 --> 01:01:58.380
Is basically creating

01:01:58.380 --> 01:02:00.380
Private cyber attack

01:02:01.860 --> 01:02:02.780
Companies I guess

01:02:02.780 --> 01:02:04.180
But like cyber attack units

01:02:04.180 --> 01:02:06.080
That are run through companies

01:02:06.540 --> 01:02:07.760
Now I'm going to get into what I

01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:10.480
As of right now there's no tapped companies

01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:12.440
But I think we know where this goes

01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:14.500
And I'm not thinking Palantir because I don't think that's even

01:02:14.500 --> 01:02:15.440
I mean it certainly could be

01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:17.120
But I think we're talking more specifically

01:02:17.120 --> 01:02:19.680
Like Israeli spyware type direction

01:02:19.680 --> 01:02:21.140
So first this article

01:02:21.720 --> 01:02:22.540
Tech Times

01:02:22.540 --> 01:02:24.460
August 13th

01:02:24.460 --> 01:02:26.160
For the first time in US history

01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:28.500
Vetted private companies can conduct

01:02:28.500 --> 01:02:30.240
Offensive cyber operations

01:02:30.240 --> 01:02:32.560
Against foreign criminal networks

01:02:32.560 --> 01:02:34.360
Now good, foreign becomes

01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:35.460
Very broad

01:02:36.070 --> 01:02:38.400
Especially with the definitions we're getting

01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:39.720
From this administration

01:02:40.240 --> 01:02:41.540
As I'll make a point in a second

01:02:41.540 --> 01:02:43.140
The transnational

01:02:43.900 --> 01:02:45.780
Criminal organization, the TCO

01:02:45.780 --> 01:02:47.740
You know

01:02:47.740 --> 01:02:49.000
Category they've created

01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.300
I mean we'll get into what like

01:02:51.300 --> 01:02:53.660
I mean guys they're accusing

01:02:53.660 --> 01:02:54.680
People in this country of being

01:02:54.680 --> 01:02:56.320
Simply because they're democrats

01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:58.560
And we went through that during the focal point

01:02:58.560 --> 01:02:59.920
Of that, so it becomes kind of

01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:02.300
Like anything else, especially with corrupt

01:03:02.300 --> 01:03:02.920
Governments

01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:05.820
The ability to just

01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:08.100
Broaden the scope and now you're a terrorist

01:03:08.100 --> 01:03:09.660
Because you're a democrat or however they do

01:03:09.660 --> 01:03:12.380
So the idea that it's foreign criminal networks

01:03:12.380 --> 01:03:14.700
Becomes the purview, the prerogative

01:03:14.700 --> 01:03:15.140
Of

01:03:15.940 --> 01:03:17.020
Paragon solutions

01:03:17.020 --> 01:03:18.740
Or whoever is in this role

01:03:18.740 --> 01:03:21.540
Now it says under direct federal authorization

01:03:21.540 --> 01:03:22.780
Meaning the US government

01:03:22.780 --> 01:03:24.820
Is tapping private entities

01:03:24.820 --> 01:03:26.120
And giving them the authority

01:03:27.460 --> 01:03:28.600
Arguably, ostensibly with

01:03:28.600 --> 01:03:30.900
Them giving the leash in the allowance

01:03:30.900 --> 01:03:32.740
To do so, but we know where this ends up

01:03:32.740 --> 01:03:34.680
Going in the past, but giving them federal

01:03:34.680 --> 01:03:36.440
Authority to conduct what would normally be

01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:38.540
A state department intelligence operation

01:03:39.160 --> 01:03:40.820
Now it's interesting because this is like

01:03:40.820 --> 01:03:42.620
Of a lot of this, I think just taking the veil off

01:03:42.620 --> 01:03:44.660
I think we're already operating this way

01:03:44.660 --> 01:03:46.660
Or they are, right, that we're talking

01:03:46.660 --> 01:03:49.020
About these palantir types or the oracle

01:03:49.020 --> 01:03:50.740
Types of these companies that are

01:03:50.740 --> 01:03:52.920
Essentially contractors and basically

01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:54.860
The way their government operates today

01:03:54.860 --> 01:03:56.540
And the way that the current network state

01:03:56.540 --> 01:03:58.540
Direction and the dark enlightenment

01:03:58.540 --> 01:04:00.380
Movement and Curtis Jarvan philosophy

01:04:00.380 --> 01:04:02.580
And Trump's entire administration are driving

01:04:02.580 --> 01:04:04.520
Us towards this CEO run country without

01:04:04.520 --> 01:04:06.180
The constitution, that's what they're

01:04:06.180 --> 01:04:08.620
Literally talking about. So I feel

01:04:08.620 --> 01:04:09.940
Like this is just one more step in that

01:04:09.940 --> 01:04:12.420
Direction of basically blending that line

01:04:12.420 --> 01:04:13.900
Allowing these companies to conduct

01:04:13.900 --> 01:04:15.780
Governmental operations and again

01:04:15.780 --> 01:04:18.040
Have already been doing so. The signing

01:04:18.040 --> 01:04:20.020
Resolves a legal barrier that has blocked

01:04:20.020 --> 01:04:21.960
Private sector cyber action

01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:24.060
For decades, but it does not

01:04:24.060 --> 01:04:25.920
But it does so by creating

01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:27.840
A new category of authorized

01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:29.920
Private operator that sits in

01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:32.160
Uncharted territory under international law

01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:33.440
The

01:04:34.040 --> 01:04:36.000
Again, they're all national security

01:04:36.780 --> 01:04:38.200
Was it presidential

01:04:38.200 --> 01:04:39.800
Memorandum, you know, send the same

01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:41.900
The whole thing is they play that game

01:04:41.900 --> 01:04:44.180
With like the memorandum versus the direct

01:04:44.180 --> 01:04:45.940
The action or the bottom line

01:04:45.940 --> 01:04:47.360
Is we're talking about executive orders

01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:49.300
Where you have one person

01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:50.900
Signing their dictate

01:04:51.680 --> 01:04:53.720
That people are supposed to follow. That's not how we're told

01:04:53.720 --> 01:04:56.140
This country operates. Now as we can all see

01:04:56.140 --> 01:04:57.800
This is not just, oh well

01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:00.140
Because of this or because we're gridlocked

01:05:00.140 --> 01:05:01.540
This is what it is now

01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:03.840
Consistently from Obama

01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:06.100
To Trump, to Biden, to Trump

01:05:06.100 --> 01:05:07.840
It hasn't stopped guys

01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:09.820
I mean really, to be honest

01:05:09.820 --> 01:05:11.600
It was Bush that truly started the

01:05:12.540 --> 01:05:14.140
Increased that degree as far as I understand

01:05:14.140 --> 01:05:15.840
Looking back and Obama

01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:18.120
Went crazy and was criticized by Trump

01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:19.940
And Trump went even crazier than Biden

01:05:19.940 --> 01:05:22.020
And now Trump's pointing back going Biden did all that

01:05:22.020 --> 01:05:23.200
They're all doing the same thing

01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:26.640
Pointing at the other side. That's how this game operates

01:05:27.900 --> 01:05:28.860
Expanding capabilities

01:05:28.860 --> 01:05:30.620
To combat transnational

01:05:30.620 --> 01:05:32.640
Cyber-enabled crimes, what it's called

01:05:32.640 --> 01:05:34.860
We'll go through a couple parts to stand out to me in a second

01:05:34.860 --> 01:05:36.200
The first category

01:05:37.080 --> 01:05:38.280
Cyber surveillance operations

01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:40.380
Covers covert intelligence

01:05:40.380 --> 01:05:42.440
Gathering from foreign systems

01:05:42.860 --> 01:05:44.720
So already you're talking about companies

01:05:44.720 --> 01:05:46.820
Who again are already involved with this as contractors

01:05:46.820 --> 01:05:48.440
But who are then as a company

01:05:49.060 --> 01:05:50.600
Conducting cyber operations against

01:05:50.600 --> 01:05:52.060
Foreign state actors

01:05:52.060 --> 01:05:54.940
Or at least they argue are the one that did something to them

01:05:54.940 --> 01:05:56.340
Is kind of how this starts out

01:05:56.340 --> 01:05:58.700
I'm just not open the door for any number

01:05:58.700 --> 01:06:00.600
Of like international events or like you know

01:06:00.600 --> 01:06:02.640
Incidents, I mean it just

01:06:02.640 --> 01:06:04.380
I feel like it's probably my design

01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:07.000
Or a way to say well that wasn't the US

01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:08.580
Government that was this company and you know

01:06:08.580 --> 01:06:10.520
You can, it's like the public-private partnership

01:06:10.520 --> 01:06:11.220
Kind of dynamic

01:06:11.780 --> 01:06:13.020
And how that can be abused

01:06:13.020 --> 01:06:15.800
It says including access that would normally constitute

01:06:16.520 --> 01:06:17.800
Unauthorized access under the

01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:19.140
Computer fraud and abuse act

01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:21.940
But so basically now legalizing

01:06:21.940 --> 01:06:23.900
What would otherwise be a crime if it was done without

01:06:23.900 --> 01:06:25.020
The government saying it was okay

01:06:25.020 --> 01:06:26.860
Perfect way the world works right

01:06:26.860 --> 01:06:29.020
These are crimes and all the government's doing it

01:06:29.020 --> 01:06:29.580
So it's okay

01:06:29.580 --> 01:06:32.460
The national security presidential memorandum

01:06:32.460 --> 01:06:34.880
Threads that needle by framing

01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:37.240
Participating companies as acting under

01:06:37.240 --> 01:06:39.180
The control and oversight of the US

01:06:39.180 --> 01:06:39.460
Government

01:06:39.460 --> 01:06:42.660
And look at the kind of government we're dealing with

01:06:42.660 --> 01:06:44.960
Do you have the confidence that they're going to be able

01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:47.160
To rein in these billion dollar companies

01:06:47.160 --> 01:06:48.340
That already act like governments

01:06:48.340 --> 01:06:51.360
And it explicitly authorizes activity

01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:52.920
Resulting in the manipulation

01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:55.560
Disruption, denial or destruction

01:06:55.560 --> 01:06:57.360
Of criminal networks

01:06:57.360 --> 01:06:59.040
Networks information systems

01:06:59.040 --> 01:07:00.480
Networks or infrastructure

01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:02.320
That is not intelligence gathering

01:07:03.180 --> 01:07:04.120
It's sabotage

01:07:04.120 --> 01:07:06.800
Authorized by contract with the federal agency

01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:07.540
Which is crazy

01:07:08.120 --> 01:07:09.220
But think about this

01:07:09.220 --> 01:07:10.740
You heard what Alex Karp said

01:07:10.740 --> 01:07:13.340
About spraying piss on people that he didn't like

01:07:13.340 --> 01:07:14.940
All these crazy things they say

01:07:14.940 --> 01:07:17.580
These are petty vindictive people

01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:19.340
So when you talk about

01:07:19.340 --> 01:07:23.420
You could rationalize a world in which they justify

01:07:23.420 --> 01:07:24.800
Claiming you're some kind of

01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:26.420
Foreign element because

01:07:26.420 --> 01:07:28.360
Trump's calling that to anybody calling out Israel

01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.020
Anybody calling out what's going on

01:07:30.020 --> 01:07:31.340
They keep telling you that

01:07:31.340 --> 01:07:32.540
They're working with foreign elements

01:07:33.360 --> 01:07:34.860
Democrats suddenly now you got the rationale

01:07:34.860 --> 01:07:36.960
From these companies to attack Americans

01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:39.380
Or at least an American website for example

01:07:39.380 --> 01:07:41.540
And take it down under the guys

01:07:41.540 --> 01:07:42.840
That you're working with a foreign element

01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:44.880
And then how do you even verify that? How do you go on and say that?

01:07:44.980 --> 01:07:47.440
They're lying about me. It's the AI type of problem

01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:49.240
They're going to say that that's what the intelligence

01:07:49.240 --> 01:07:50.400
Showed, national security

01:07:50.980 --> 01:07:52.760
I mean this is a quagmire

01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:55.460
I mean it just becomes more and more opaque

01:07:55.460 --> 01:07:56.360
And that's what they want

01:07:57.200 --> 01:07:58.560
All I'm saying first of all

01:07:58.560 --> 01:07:59.840
Is that you can see the way it's abused

01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:01.440
In the most obvious sense

01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.180
Where vindictive people that we see right now

01:08:04.180 --> 01:08:06.480
Use this against people that are not foreign actors

01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:08.020
That simply want to pretend they are

01:08:08.020 --> 01:08:10.120
And conflate it with the same things Trump is

01:08:11.020 --> 01:08:12.200
But then just

01:08:12.200 --> 01:08:14.480
The way it's used normally in and of itself

01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:15.900
Is insane, right?

01:08:15.980 --> 01:08:18.200
I mean it's creating a circumstance where you blur the line

01:08:18.200 --> 01:08:20.380
Of what government is and that's exactly what they want

01:08:21.220 --> 01:08:22.500
Per operation approval

01:08:22.500 --> 01:08:24.020
Requirement is what they claim, right?

01:08:24.240 --> 01:08:26.500
The government has to approve every single operation

01:08:26.500 --> 01:08:28.700
I just highly doubt that's actually how this goes

01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:30.360
Especially since

01:08:30.360 --> 01:08:31.740
I don't think that they're even in control

01:08:31.740 --> 01:08:33.740
Whatever we call the US government guys

01:08:34.420 --> 01:08:35.720
Whether it's even there anymore

01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:37.040
And I'm not trying to be hyperbolic

01:08:37.040 --> 01:08:38.840
I mean let's be real about what we're watching today

01:08:39.320 --> 01:08:40.720
There's something off and it's not

01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:41.960
I don't think these are the people

01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:43.740
I don't think the peat headsets of the world

01:08:43.740 --> 01:08:46.760
And the cash patels have any idea what's going on

01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:49.180
Let alone the ability to dictate what happens

01:08:50.040 --> 01:08:52.020
Trump is included in that category in my opinion

01:08:52.020 --> 01:08:53.260
Especially with what we're seeing today

01:08:53.260 --> 01:08:55.560
But it says there is also a financial backstop

01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:57.020
Companies may be required

01:08:57.020 --> 01:08:58.680
As a condition of their contracts

01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.960
To maintain a bond or escrow

01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:02.100
Of at least a million dollars

01:09:02.100 --> 01:09:04.800
So now you have this kind of weird black market

01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:07.420
Rather a black operation slush fund

01:09:07.420 --> 01:09:08.080
Kind of thing

01:09:08.080 --> 01:09:09.940
So how many companies?

01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:11.960
I mean you have a hundred of them

01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:12.880
A hundred billion dollars sitting there

01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.500
Either way who knows what that amounts to

01:09:15.500 --> 01:09:17.800
But it's simply a fund that will be utilized

01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:19.020
For them to conduct operations

01:09:19.020 --> 01:09:20.560
The NSPM

01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:22.680
Draws one explicit hard line

01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:24.640
The dual directors

01:09:25.740 --> 01:09:27.280
Cannot on their own authority

01:09:27.280 --> 01:09:29.240
Approve any operation

01:09:29.240 --> 01:09:32.220
If it is likely to result in the loss of life

01:09:32.220 --> 01:09:33.440
Or serious injury

01:09:33.440 --> 01:09:35.940
Or if it would rise to the level of use of force

01:09:35.940 --> 01:09:37.780
Or armed attack under international law

01:09:37.780 --> 01:09:39.320
Because guys clearly

01:09:39.320 --> 01:09:41.300
They care about human life

01:09:41.300 --> 01:09:44.320
Clearly they're concerned about international law

01:09:44.320 --> 01:09:44.720
Right?

01:09:45.060 --> 01:09:47.000
So I mean of course they're gonna be

01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:48.500
We will not censor you

01:09:48.500 --> 01:09:50.500
We will never violate your rights

01:09:50.500 --> 01:09:52.220
And then they go on to do all of that

01:09:52.220 --> 01:09:54.520
So it just rings hollow to have them go

01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:56.560
We'll draw the line for when it hurts

01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:58.920
As they're murdering people in Gaza as we speak

01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:00.660
As they're literally starting people to death

01:10:00.660 --> 01:10:03.160
All over the world it's obvious they don't mean that

01:10:03.160 --> 01:10:04.600
I'm sure we can understand

01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:06.960
One last part in this here

01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:08.520
Or is it one? Yeah one last part

01:10:08.980 --> 01:10:10.720
At the end it says what this means

01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:12.000
For cybersecurity firms

01:10:12.420 --> 01:10:14.480
For the private cybersecurity industry

01:10:14.480 --> 01:10:16.780
The National Security Presidential Memorandum

01:10:16.780 --> 01:10:18.200
Opens a market category

01:10:18.200 --> 01:10:20.840
That's never legally existed before

01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:22.900
Federally authorized

01:10:22.900 --> 01:10:24.640
Contractually governed

01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:26.680
Per operation offensive

01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:28.560
Cyber services directed against

01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:30.300
Foreign criminal networks

01:10:30.300 --> 01:10:32.280
I mean you basically become like a mercenary

01:10:32.280 --> 01:10:34.500
Outfit working ostensibly

01:10:34.500 --> 01:10:35.280
For the US government

01:10:35.280 --> 01:10:37.880
It's almost like opaque and not even

01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:40.600
I mean exactly what I would argue they want

01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:42.500
Now even more so exactly what you

01:10:42.500 --> 01:10:44.020
Would argue Israel would want

01:10:44.020 --> 01:10:45.160
To operate under

01:10:46.020 --> 01:10:48.380
And not have to worry at all about any of those things

01:10:48.380 --> 01:10:50.420
And just do what they want and act like they're operating

01:10:50.420 --> 01:10:51.960
Under the auspices of the US government

01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:54.400
But not as Israel but as a US company

01:10:54.400 --> 01:10:55.920
That is absolutely Israel

01:10:56.370 --> 01:10:57.980
That's what I read this as potentially

01:10:58.460 --> 01:10:59.800
Or rather the best way to say that is

01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:00.940
That's what I see this becoming

01:11:00.940 --> 01:11:02.480
If not already the plan

01:11:02.480 --> 01:11:03.720
My personal opinion

01:11:05.040 --> 01:11:07.160
Without that last part you can see however

01:11:07.980 --> 01:11:09.940
Regardless if you pick Palantir

01:11:09.940 --> 01:11:11.920
Oracle it's just as problematic

01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:13.620
I mean not even aside from the fact that

01:11:13.620 --> 01:11:16.080
That's also Israel included but take one that doesn't

01:11:16.080 --> 01:11:17.860
It's still something that I think will be abused

01:11:17.860 --> 01:11:19.540
Like everything this government's ever touched

01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:21.840
And it goes on to say

01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:23.880
The technical firm's best position to

01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:25.660
Participate are precisely

01:11:25.660 --> 01:11:27.880
Those with the deepest offensive

01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:29.880
Tradecraft who do you think

01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:31.300
That is guys it's not even debatable

01:11:31.940 --> 01:11:33.620
Experience penetrating surveilling

01:11:33.620 --> 01:11:35.900
And disrupting sophisticated criminal

01:11:35.900 --> 01:11:37.340
Infrastructure at scale

01:11:37.340 --> 01:11:39.620
That technical profile

01:11:39.620 --> 01:11:41.700
Overlaps substantially

01:11:41.700 --> 01:11:43.680
With the mercenary spyware

01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:45.420
Industry whose leading firms

01:11:45.420 --> 01:11:47.720
Happened to be NSO group

01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:49.540
Israel, Intellexa

01:11:49.540 --> 01:11:51.120
Israel and their peers

01:11:51.120 --> 01:11:52.780
Largely Israeli entities

01:11:52.780 --> 01:11:54.280
And that's not my opinion

01:11:55.020 --> 01:11:57.520
Have spent a decade developing exactly

01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:59.200
Those capabilities primarily for

01:11:59.200 --> 01:12:00.200
Government clients

01:12:00.200 --> 01:12:02.700
Now all that's happening is you're now going to take

01:12:02.700 --> 01:12:05.040
One of these mercenary spyware companies

01:12:05.040 --> 01:12:07.120
Like we've talked about Pegasus

01:12:07.120 --> 01:12:09.220
NSO, Axonis

01:12:09.220 --> 01:12:10.320
I mean we've talked about all these

01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.140
And allowing them to come out of the shadows

01:12:13.140 --> 01:12:14.600
Like everything else we're talking about

01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:16.860
And just operate with a government badge

01:12:17.700 --> 01:12:18.880
I mean this is

01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:20.780
Like I mean you know

01:12:20.780 --> 01:12:22.000
Like everything else we're talking about

01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:23.440
It's on the surface, it's in your face

01:12:23.440 --> 01:12:26.880
And it's just kind of daring you to do something about it

01:12:28.160 --> 01:12:29.120
United States

01:12:29.120 --> 01:12:31.360
Designates eight cartels in transnational

01:12:31.360 --> 01:12:32.740
Organizations 2025

01:12:32.740 --> 01:12:34.240
Then I'll just make it this point before

01:12:34.240 --> 01:12:36.480
You know, Cinelloa Cartel, Trende Rago

01:12:36.480 --> 01:12:38.780
We have seen them be fast and loose with the accusations

01:12:38.780 --> 01:12:40.060
Of who is in those groups

01:12:40.620 --> 01:12:42.840
For I mean since this last administration started

01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:45.500
So all I want to show you is when they talk about TCO

01:12:45.500 --> 01:12:46.760
Which is what you're going to see in their

01:12:47.220 --> 01:12:48.020
Executive order

01:12:48.540 --> 01:12:50.660
And it's something that they've already used frivolously

01:12:50.660 --> 01:12:52.720
To accuse other people of being a part of or working for

01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:54.780
Then it becomes anybody they want to

01:12:54.780 --> 01:12:56.360
Including MS-13

01:12:57.500 --> 01:12:58.800
It says MS-13

01:12:59.360 --> 01:13:00.060
I mean the

01:13:00.060 --> 01:13:02.140
The absurdity of taking a group

01:13:02.140 --> 01:13:04.080
That they lied about so brazenly

01:13:04.080 --> 01:13:05.900
And saying this is how we're going to

01:13:05.900 --> 01:13:07.940
You to justify action

01:13:08.580 --> 01:13:09.980
By companies where you know

01:13:09.980 --> 01:13:10.960
You see where this goes

01:13:12.080 --> 01:13:13.280
Now on that note

01:13:13.280 --> 01:13:14.920
Before we get into the executive order

01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:17.180
I mean this is what we're getting at guys

01:13:17.180 --> 01:13:20.060
These operational things that have been behind the scenes

01:13:20.060 --> 01:13:22.060
That are now going to be given front-row seeds

01:13:22.060 --> 01:13:24.140
Or rather just for you to see anyway

01:13:24.140 --> 01:13:25.760
The Israeli election interference

01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:28.200
And psychological operation industrial complex

01:13:28.200 --> 01:13:29.980
I've talked about this many times

01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:32.040
Here's the actual article from the

01:13:32.040 --> 01:13:33.820
Guardian and plenty of other platforms

01:13:33.820 --> 01:13:35.280
That were involved with breaking this down

01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:37.980
Revealed the hacking

01:13:37.980 --> 01:13:40.240
And disinformation team meddling

01:13:40.240 --> 01:13:40.720
In elections

01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:43.860
This guy, his name is Jorge

01:13:44.940 --> 01:13:46.420
Admittedly works for the Israeli government

01:13:46.420 --> 01:13:48.180
And admittedly was part

01:13:48.180 --> 01:13:49.460
Of manipulating foreign elections

01:13:49.460 --> 01:13:51.900
Many of which he argues were in the United States

01:13:51.900 --> 01:13:53.280
Read it for yourself

01:13:54.140 --> 01:13:55.820
Talks about being paid

01:13:55.820 --> 01:13:57.480
To conduct foreign operations

01:13:58.260 --> 01:14:00.140
Psychological social media campaigns

01:14:01.200 --> 01:14:02.600
This is what they do guys

01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:04.220
And this is old, three years old

01:14:04.220 --> 01:14:05.940
So what we're seeing is this

01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:08.820
Becoming a public operating

01:14:08.820 --> 01:14:09.520
Entity

01:14:10.480 --> 01:14:11.380
Generally speaking

01:14:11.380 --> 01:14:14.220
Because right now they haven't really pointed to

01:14:14.220 --> 01:14:15.420
Any specific entity

01:14:15.420 --> 01:14:17.800
But this is the kind of thing that is filling the role

01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:18.640
This is what they want

01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:20.340
That's what's so alarming about this

01:14:20.340 --> 01:14:21.380
Now Lucas

01:14:22.080 --> 01:14:22.780
Lucas

01:14:25.100 --> 01:14:26.500
Ellen Jinx

01:14:26.500 --> 01:14:27.560
Posted this

01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:29.880
She's security and privacy data protection

01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:30.920
She covers I guess

01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:32.640
I just saw this today

01:14:33.380 --> 01:14:34.980
USA is building a state controlled

01:14:34.980 --> 01:14:36.100
Private cyber force

01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:39.320
It lets vetted US companies conduct

01:14:39.320 --> 01:14:41.720
Covert access surveillance and cyberattacks

01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:43.100
Against foreign criminal networks

01:14:43.100 --> 01:14:44.280
Or what they claim are those

01:14:44.280 --> 01:14:46.480
US companies will be authorized to target

01:14:46.480 --> 01:14:48.440
Industrial control systems

01:14:48.440 --> 01:14:50.360
And manipulate disruptive degrade

01:14:50.360 --> 01:14:52.500
Destroy cyber controlled infrastructure

01:14:52.500 --> 01:14:54.400
Okay well now you've got Israeli

01:14:54.400 --> 01:14:55.560
Adjacent companies

01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:58.640
Or maybe just companies but that's why I see this going

01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:00.520
Who are now rationalizing doing this

01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:02.560
And disrupting and degrading infrastructure

01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:03.820
In I don't know Iran

01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:06.720
After they just told us they attacked our water

01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:07.500
Did they?

01:15:08.420 --> 01:15:10.520
We just got another lie from about attacking

01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:11.440
Trump or anybody else

01:15:11.440 --> 01:15:14.000
Israel will lie like it breathes guys

01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:15.320
And we know this

01:15:15.320 --> 01:15:17.840
Because it's been told to us many many times over the year

01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:19.220
Let me preface

01:15:19.220 --> 01:15:20.800
These remarks with a never

01:15:21.180 --> 01:15:23.000
Never ever believe

01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:24.460
Israeli figures

01:15:24.460 --> 01:15:26.680
I've been in the government too long

01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:29.040
To know that the Israelis are patent

01:15:29.040 --> 01:15:30.040
Liars

01:15:30.040 --> 01:15:31.780
In their intelligence community

01:15:31.780 --> 01:15:34.180
In their propaganda community certainly

01:15:34.180 --> 01:15:36.740
And in their leadership they are

01:15:36.740 --> 01:15:38.500
In veteran liars

01:15:38.500 --> 01:15:41.280
Let me say that again they are liars

01:15:41.280 --> 01:15:41.920
So

01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:42.740
Oh

01:15:42.740 --> 01:15:43.020
Oh

01:15:44.940 --> 01:15:45.380
So

01:15:47.260 --> 01:15:49.220
Very understood by people that work with them

01:15:49.220 --> 01:15:50.840
And so the idea becomes

01:15:51.620 --> 01:15:53.380
Well you're in this position or again

01:15:53.380 --> 01:15:55.220
You could take Israel out of it you have a company

01:15:55.220 --> 01:15:56.760
Who has an agenda, who has an interest

01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:58.820
You have a foreign adversary or a

01:15:59.360 --> 01:16:00.380
Competitor for example

01:16:00.380 --> 01:16:03.580
Now suddenly you don't think these companies would take advantage of that situation

01:16:03.580 --> 01:16:04.880
Many people would argue no

01:16:05.540 --> 01:16:07.760
I argue then you don't understand the way that the world

01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:09.140
Can and has operated

01:16:09.140 --> 01:16:11.540
Not everybody but in the power structures

01:16:11.540 --> 01:16:13.400
And authority and governments and adjacent

01:16:13.400 --> 01:16:15.060
Elements it's what they do

01:16:15.060 --> 01:16:17.120
And like people like Trump and Elon Musk

01:16:17.120 --> 01:16:18.540
Would tell you that's the way the world works

01:16:18.540 --> 01:16:20.900
Stephen Miller would tell you you're weak for not agreeing with that

01:16:20.900 --> 01:16:23.060
I'm not saying I want that to be the case

01:16:23.060 --> 01:16:24.700
I'm saying that's the way it operates

01:16:24.700 --> 01:16:26.140
And they don't want you to see that all the time

01:16:26.140 --> 01:16:27.480
And we should fight to change that

01:16:27.480 --> 01:16:29.420
But it says including physical destruction

01:16:30.100 --> 01:16:31.420
Operations likely to cause death

01:16:31.420 --> 01:16:33.820
Serious injury amount to the use of force can't be approved

01:16:33.820 --> 01:16:35.040
We are going through most of this

01:16:35.040 --> 01:16:36.640
I just want to point out her calling this out

01:16:36.640 --> 01:16:38.600
This is where I had seen her

01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:42.120
This is what got me going on this direction of this

01:16:42.120 --> 01:16:43.020
So I want to point that out

01:16:43.020 --> 01:16:45.660
And I think this is important and I'll highlight some of the things I saw as well

01:16:48.360 --> 01:16:49.080
August 12th

01:16:49.080 --> 01:16:50.420
Again expanding capabilities

01:16:50.420 --> 01:16:53.400
To combat transnational cyber enabled crime

01:16:53.400 --> 01:16:55.620
Now some of the things stood out once she pointed out

01:16:55.620 --> 01:16:57.660
Was simply as it says create, manage and maintain

01:16:57.660 --> 01:17:00.520
The program to authorize participating companies

01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:01.860
In case you just want to see for yourself

01:17:01.860 --> 01:17:03.860
As defined in section F4

01:17:03.860 --> 01:17:06.100
To conduct cyber surveillance operations

01:17:06.400 --> 01:17:07.680
And cyber effects operations

01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:09.660
Against foreign cyber enabled

01:17:10.380 --> 01:17:12.040
Transnational criminal organizations

01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:13.980
Under the control

01:17:13.980 --> 01:17:15.340
And oversight of federal government

01:17:16.120 --> 01:17:17.780
So you're giving government authority

01:17:17.780 --> 01:17:18.940
To companies

01:17:18.940 --> 01:17:20.740
I mean guys it just gets more and more clear

01:17:20.740 --> 01:17:23.340
Now this one says require participating companies

01:17:23.340 --> 01:17:25.540
To enter into contractual agreements

01:17:25.540 --> 01:17:27.300
With the Department of Justice

01:17:27.300 --> 01:17:28.680
Or the Department of Homeland Security

01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:29.720
So now you're not just

01:17:30.700 --> 01:17:32.800
You're literally under contract

01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:34.280
So I mean you are the government

01:17:34.280 --> 01:17:36.340
And I think that's already kind of the point though

01:17:36.340 --> 01:17:38.040
Now you're not technically speaking

01:17:38.040 --> 01:17:40.500
But I get argued that this is what this amounts to

01:17:40.500 --> 01:17:42.080
It's like being a government contractor

01:17:42.080 --> 01:17:44.720
Like Elon Musk, you're tangentially part

01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:45.720
Of the government apparatus

01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.180
Within 60 days of the date of this memorandum

01:17:49.180 --> 01:17:51.320
The program executive director shall

01:17:51.320 --> 01:17:53.200
In coordination with Homeland Security Council

01:17:53.200 --> 01:17:55.820
Establish consensus operating procedures

01:17:55.820 --> 01:17:58.500
For the program that ensures the federal government's

01:17:58.500 --> 01:18:00.060
Complete oversight and control

01:18:00.060 --> 01:18:01.920
Of participating companies' performance

01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:04.000
So even right there you then can argue

01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:05.240
That maybe from the other side of it

01:18:05.240 --> 01:18:07.040
You have an opening here for the government

01:18:07.040 --> 01:18:09.640
To start to control companies through this guys

01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:11.960
Now what if this becomes something they argue

01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:13.660
They need to do for national security

01:18:13.660 --> 01:18:15.400
Sort of like in a domain

01:18:15.400 --> 01:18:17.360
And we're just going to sort of take over

01:18:17.360 --> 01:18:19.540
Your company's resources when it needs

01:18:19.540 --> 01:18:22.020
I doubt that happens but it's certainly possible

01:18:22.020 --> 01:18:23.820
And so what we're talking about is the idea

01:18:23.820 --> 01:18:25.360
Where the government opens the door

01:18:25.360 --> 01:18:27.780
For them to be able to have complete oversight

01:18:27.780 --> 01:18:30.060
And control of their company's performance

01:18:30.060 --> 01:18:31.580
Now you could argue that means

01:18:31.580 --> 01:18:33.360
In operations of cyber attacks

01:18:33.360 --> 01:18:35.440
But isn't that what they do in general

01:18:35.440 --> 01:18:36.920
It just becomes a weird overlap

01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:39.180
Again, one of the main points is the merging

01:18:39.180 --> 01:18:41.940
Kind of the fascistic blend of these companies

01:18:41.940 --> 01:18:42.980
And the government itself

01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:45.520
Lastly it says any activity authorized

01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:47.540
By the program must be conducted

01:18:47.540 --> 01:18:49.680
A program must be conducted

01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:51.720
Subject to the oversight, operational control

01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:53.340
And legal authorities of the US

01:18:53.340 --> 01:18:54.040
US government

01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:56.480
The question is do you think that they're even capable

01:18:56.480 --> 01:18:58.240
Of managing something like that

01:18:58.240 --> 01:18:59.560
Or will they be played

01:19:00.900 --> 01:19:02.340
Or are they just lying to you

01:19:02.340 --> 01:19:05.040
So in general let's get into some of these overlapping points

01:19:05.040 --> 01:19:06.500
Now Oracle was one I already mentioned

01:19:06.500 --> 01:19:08.320
Derek wrote an article about this

01:19:08.320 --> 01:19:11.420
In 2025, like most of the stuff happening right now

01:19:11.420 --> 01:19:13.040
Oracle and the rise of the

01:19:13.040 --> 01:19:14.800
AI surveillance state under Trump

01:19:15.340 --> 01:19:16.880
And we talk about this and here's an example

01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:17.940
By the way of one of those pictures

01:19:17.940 --> 01:19:19.400
Which I'm not doing now anymore

01:19:19.400 --> 01:19:20.560
But still argue that

01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:22.280
Helps circumvent the copyright attacks

01:19:22.280 --> 01:19:23.340
That we were getting unjustly

01:19:23.340 --> 01:19:25.640
But bottom line is that this is something

01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:27.360
Along with other companies that are using

01:19:27.980 --> 01:19:30.600
One of I argue the potentials

01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:32.600
For this, not less likely Oracle or Palantir

01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:34.800
But it's possible, but more so once we get into next

01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:36.320
But why this opens the door

01:19:36.320 --> 01:19:37.940
Is connected for me

01:19:38.400 --> 01:19:39.380
Is because of this

01:19:40.080 --> 01:19:42.180
This was just going around and I think it just shows you

01:19:42.180 --> 01:19:43.380
That these companies guys

01:19:44.360 --> 01:19:46.600
Whether you want to argue it's infiltration

01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:48.680
So it's like without their control

01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:49.720
Or without their knowledge

01:19:50.460 --> 01:19:52.000
That's part of it that does happen

01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:54.660
You can look at something like this and understand

01:19:54.660 --> 01:19:56.460
I mean very well this clip could

01:19:56.460 --> 01:19:58.660
It could represent infiltration that she was sort of

01:19:58.660 --> 01:20:00.520
Placed or put into the position to control

01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:02.900
But maybe she's not, maybe she's the person

01:20:02.900 --> 01:20:04.880
Who's been manipulated enough to believe

01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:06.780
That her job is primarily

01:20:06.780 --> 01:20:08.040
About helping Israel

01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:10.680
Or doing things that in many cases are illegal

01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:12.280
Or immoral or whatever else

01:20:12.280 --> 01:20:14.880
But because they're on Israel's side

01:20:15.440 --> 01:20:16.840
Which is just a weird thing to

01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:18.820
Like from Palantir's perspective that's a strange

01:20:18.820 --> 01:20:19.440
Thing to do

01:20:19.440 --> 01:20:22.740
We all see what's going on and we see why

01:20:22.740 --> 01:20:24.820
And especially when it becomes something that they're involved with

01:20:24.820 --> 01:20:26.560
Whether it's genocide

01:20:27.440 --> 01:20:28.900
Illegally surveilling American citizens

01:20:28.900 --> 01:20:30.740
And then just shoving it down your throat

01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:32.880
They're profiting from it

01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:34.860
But I think there's obviously a larger agenda

01:20:34.860 --> 01:20:37.060
This just shows you what they're capable of

01:20:37.060 --> 01:20:39.260
And then connecting this

01:20:39.260 --> 01:20:40.700
Your mind with these kind of companies

01:20:40.700 --> 01:20:43.380
And what they're willing to do under what we just described

01:20:43.380 --> 01:20:44.840
This is how they operate

01:20:45.380 --> 01:20:47.020
Hit our website

01:20:47.020 --> 01:20:48.560
In an Arab country

01:20:49.080 --> 01:20:51.320
And you saw your entire screen

01:20:51.320 --> 01:20:53.600
Filled with an Israeli flag

01:20:53.600 --> 01:20:55.080
Which said

01:20:55.080 --> 01:20:57.440
Not only we stand with Israel

01:20:57.440 --> 01:21:00.040
We stand with our employees in Israel

01:21:00.040 --> 01:21:02.000
We stand with the people of Israel

01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:03.960
We stand with the military

01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:05.220
Establishment

01:21:05.220 --> 01:21:06.000
Of Israel

01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.460
Now for the podcast

01:21:09.060 --> 01:21:09.980
On the screen

01:21:09.980 --> 01:21:12.140
In this Asushia

01:21:12.140 --> 01:21:12.740
This is at the

01:21:12.740 --> 01:21:15.220
Israel Alliance Committee Council

01:21:15.220 --> 01:21:16.400
I forget the full title

01:21:16.400 --> 01:21:18.580
Anyway it says

01:21:18.580 --> 01:21:20.200
Oracle's Executive Chair

01:21:20.200 --> 01:21:21.720
Safra Katz

01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:24.000
Openly boasts about supplying

01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.720
Scary technology to the Israeli military

01:21:26.720 --> 01:21:28.180
To further its agenda in Gaza

01:21:29.500 --> 01:21:31.560
There's a few things that we did

01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:33.660
That I really can't talk about

01:21:33.660 --> 01:21:34.400
To be honest

01:21:34.400 --> 01:21:36.660
Because to advance the agenda

01:21:36.660 --> 01:21:38.080
For the Israeli

01:21:39.260 --> 01:21:39.980
Military

01:21:40.540 --> 01:21:42.640
But our teams did a lot

01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:44.960
We have some really profoundly

01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:47.040
Scary technology at Oracle

01:21:47.040 --> 01:21:48.220
And we

01:21:48.220 --> 01:21:50.080
Wanted to make sure

01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:52.180
That it was available

01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:54.160
For the effort

01:21:54.160 --> 01:21:55.460
Let's just say that

01:21:55.460 --> 01:21:57.960
I was in the Kyriac

01:21:58.560 --> 01:21:59.820
And I go in

01:21:59.820 --> 01:22:02.720
And I meet with everyone you'd imagine I meet with

01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:04.540
And on my way out

01:22:04.540 --> 01:22:05.700
I run into

01:22:05.700 --> 01:22:08.200
I don't know, five of my team

01:22:08.200 --> 01:22:10.420
Who are all in uniform

01:22:10.980 --> 01:22:11.460
Working

01:22:11.460 --> 01:22:13.940
And to be honest with you

01:22:13.940 --> 01:22:15.700
It's like my proudest moment

01:22:16.340 --> 01:22:17.640
Oh yeah, in case you misunderstand

01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:18.880
What she's saying is when

01:22:20.300 --> 01:22:22.220
Oracle employees were in the IDF

01:22:22.220 --> 01:22:23.240
No big deal

01:22:23.240 --> 01:22:24.760
And you may not think that's a big deal

01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:25.900
Frankly, I think it matters

01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.380
Being in the US military at this point

01:22:29.380 --> 01:22:31.260
In the middle of post-Iraq war

01:22:31.260 --> 01:22:33.500
That matters guys because of all the things

01:22:33.500 --> 01:22:35.420
That people were seeing the US military do

01:22:35.420 --> 01:22:37.320
Now that's somewhat changed for other reasons

01:22:37.320 --> 01:22:39.420
And it's getting worse again because of what's going on today

01:22:39.420 --> 01:22:41.420
But it's obvious that people have become aware

01:22:41.420 --> 01:22:43.180
Of exactly what they're doing

01:22:43.180 --> 01:22:45.380
I mean you can only see so many videos

01:22:45.380 --> 01:22:47.200
About how soldiers were raping people in Iraq

01:22:47.200 --> 01:22:48.740
Until you realize that there's something

01:22:49.220 --> 01:22:51.560
There's something wrong culturally with the military

01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:53.120
Not just, you know, and of course

01:22:53.120 --> 01:22:54.900
Which then gets framed as American people

01:22:54.900 --> 01:22:56.960
Just like I would argue that what's going on there

01:22:56.960 --> 01:22:58.080
Doesn't mean every Israeli

01:22:58.080 --> 01:23:00.020
It certainly means a clear majority

01:23:00.020 --> 01:23:01.560
Like you could argue it did during Iraq

01:23:01.560 --> 01:23:03.760
That's the point guys, we're being propagandized

01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:05.340
But it's important to understand

01:23:05.340 --> 01:23:07.940
And what they're supporting

01:23:07.940 --> 01:23:09.880
Like it's not even debatable

01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:11.720
That you could ignore if you want to debate

01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:13.740
About the word genocide then that's your problem

01:23:13.740 --> 01:23:15.800
Because you're ridiculous, but at the same time

01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:17.800
It's obvious that these are war crimes

01:23:18.260 --> 01:23:19.800
So you're fine

01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:21.120
Pretend it's not a genocide

01:23:21.120 --> 01:23:22.800
You're going to tell me that that many children

01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:24.420
300 killed in the last 300 days

01:23:24.420 --> 01:23:25.500
Is somehow just what happens

01:23:25.500 --> 01:23:28.260
It's just obvious these people have some kind of moral

01:23:29.080 --> 01:23:30.660
Ambiguity or whatever you want to call it

01:23:30.660 --> 01:23:31.900
If not complete lapse

01:23:32.860 --> 01:23:34.200
And here she is saying

01:23:34.200 --> 01:23:35.200
We gave this to them

01:23:35.200 --> 01:23:37.780
My proudest day was seeing our employees

01:23:38.760 --> 01:23:40.260
Conducting, you know, I'll leave it there

01:23:40.700 --> 01:23:42.540
Working for the government that we're talking about

01:23:45.820 --> 01:23:48.400
So we also on, you know, 2025

01:23:48.400 --> 01:23:50.440
Talked about Larry Ellison and

01:23:51.080 --> 01:23:51.520
Stargate

01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:52.780
Talk about AI created

01:23:52.780 --> 01:23:55.100
You know, AI created vaccines and AI created

01:23:55.100 --> 01:23:57.320
And we also have, of course, OpenAI and SoftBank

01:23:57.320 --> 01:23:59.060
All of which will largely, you know

01:23:59.060 --> 01:24:01.400
OpenAI too for its own points, but specifically

01:24:01.400 --> 01:24:03.340
Larry and SoftBank

01:24:03.340 --> 01:24:05.660
With undeniable connections to Israel

01:24:05.660 --> 01:24:07.060
Right into this conversation

01:24:07.060 --> 01:24:08.480
We can see that through today

01:24:08.480 --> 01:24:11.680
Now Whitney wrote this for TLAV in 2020

01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:13.440
Google and Oracle to

01:24:13.440 --> 01:24:15.500
Monitor Americans who get warp speeds

01:24:15.500 --> 01:24:17.420
COVID-19 vaccines for up to two years

01:24:17.420 --> 01:24:19.520
The pharmacovigilance that we never really talked about

01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:21.760
Again, after Monsef Salawi just kind of backed away

01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:23.580
And realized, you know, people are going

01:24:23.580 --> 01:24:24.800
Vayres, which we showed up, right?

01:24:25.320 --> 01:24:27.620
But it took so

01:24:27.620 --> 01:24:29.520
Long people to argue and remember that this is

01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:31.680
Something they were doing. They had their own database

01:24:31.680 --> 01:24:33.480
That they were considering and it was watching

01:24:33.480 --> 01:24:35.620
You if you took the shot and you know

01:24:35.620 --> 01:24:37.580
We know why they did not want to talk about that

01:24:37.580 --> 01:24:39.260
But this is how far this goes

01:24:39.260 --> 01:24:40.940
Long before even the COVID illusion guys

01:24:40.940 --> 01:24:43.560
But this has been an ongoing thing and they're part of this

01:24:43.980 --> 01:24:45.000
Now on top of that

01:24:46.360 --> 01:24:46.760
Is

01:24:48.060 --> 01:24:49.080
Whitney Webb, excuse me

01:24:49.080 --> 01:24:50.820
For Unlimited Hangout, wrote this

01:24:50.820 --> 01:24:52.640
In 2021. Now recently

01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:54.640
We talked about this and I kind of went

01:24:55.480 --> 01:24:56.640
Largely went over it like I said

01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:58.420
Because we were going to make it a focus

01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:00.680
And I kind of still plan on it. So again

01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:02.900
I'm not going to go too deep because I don't want to make it redundant

01:25:02.900 --> 01:25:04.040
For the next one we do for them

01:25:04.980 --> 01:25:06.660
But it's largely, we actually

01:25:06.660 --> 01:25:07.880
We've already covered this in the past

01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:10.600
And it very much relates to everything we're talking about

01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:12.700
My hope though is that we can do sort of a deeper dive

01:25:12.700 --> 01:25:15.080
On this very topic for the next open source

01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:16.960
But she wrote this in 2021

01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:18.560
Meet Toka, the most dangerous

01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:20.440
Really spyware firm you've never heard of

01:25:20.440 --> 01:25:22.100
And she talks of course about Pegasus

01:25:22.100 --> 01:25:24.760
Which we all agree is very problematic

01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:27.520
But her point in this is that that becomes an over focal point

01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:29.180
That people ignore all the others

01:25:29.180 --> 01:25:30.780
And it's very clear

01:25:30.780 --> 01:25:33.400
That this has been, these kind of things have been working their way

01:25:33.400 --> 01:25:35.300
Into the US government apparatus

01:25:36.340 --> 01:25:37.300
Now I'm going to be

01:25:37.300 --> 01:25:39.180
Following, let's just say we don't do that

01:25:39.180 --> 01:25:40.720
I'll make sure I come back to this and go in depth

01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:42.100
But again, we've already talked about this

01:25:42.100 --> 01:25:44.440
And Josh actually, the champagne Josh

01:25:44.440 --> 01:25:45.720
He has a pretty good thread on this

01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:47.400
Breaking the step down, so I'll include that

01:25:47.400 --> 01:25:49.880
Wait, I just highlighted that this is what she tried to warn people about

01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:51.460
Five years ago, which is again

01:25:51.460 --> 01:25:53.020
The largest thing we keep talking about

01:25:53.860 --> 01:25:56.060
Had people decided to do something about it

01:25:56.060 --> 01:25:57.680
Maybe we would be stopping this before it got there

01:25:57.680 --> 01:25:59.600
Not as it's happening, right?

01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:00.680
So think of that today

01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:02.680
With everything we're talking about, let's do something now

01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:04.880
Instead of waiting for other mainstream alternative media

01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:06.460
To yell about it while it's already happening

01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:09.200
Now in this case, Heretz talks about

01:26:11.140 --> 01:26:11.580
Pegasus

01:26:12.160 --> 01:26:13.540
And this is very important

01:26:14.040 --> 01:26:16.400
Because, excuse me, we'll get Pegasus, but Paragon Solutions

01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:18.900
It's one of the most obvious

01:26:18.900 --> 01:26:20.980
One of the most known, one of the most reviled

01:26:20.980 --> 01:26:23.100
It's like clearly been accused and caught

01:26:23.100 --> 01:26:25.600
Of doing things that are objectively criminal

01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:28.840
And this is the group that Trump's working with, guys

01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:30.640
Literally with ICE, with the US government

01:26:31.120 --> 01:26:33.180
Now this is Heretz from 2024

01:26:34.100 --> 01:26:35.360
Israeli spyware firm

01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:36.440
Paragon

01:26:36.440 --> 01:26:37.920
Sold to the US

01:26:38.440 --> 01:26:39.540
Which we've mentioned before

01:26:39.540 --> 01:26:41.060
It becomes red lattice

01:26:41.060 --> 01:26:44.100
But I want to really stress and highlight for you

01:26:44.100 --> 01:26:46.520
Very clearly how these things happen

01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:48.840
So first of all, you got a company that is

01:26:49.440 --> 01:26:50.800
Undeniably Israeli run

01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:52.720
That is clearly, you know, sort of like when the

01:26:53.300 --> 01:26:55.080
APAC becomes something that's not Israeli

01:26:55.080 --> 01:26:56.640
It's like this very flimsy

01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:58.400
Transition from an Israeli thing

01:26:58.400 --> 01:27:00.660
They shove an American forward

01:27:00.660 --> 01:27:01.760
And call it a US thing

01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.380
And remember, this is the post-JFK conversation

01:27:04.380 --> 01:27:06.120
Right? That's one of the things they were trying to

01:27:06.120 --> 01:27:08.340
Accomplish was exposing them and having them

01:27:08.340 --> 01:27:10.560
Register under FARA before it was called APAC

01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:11.920
Now the point in this case

01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:14.300
Is that we have a company that was very clearly

01:27:14.300 --> 01:27:16.300
An Israeli spyware company that was accused of

01:27:16.300 --> 01:27:18.320
And found guilty of tons of crimes

01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:21.620
I knew I was going to grab this one

01:27:25.860 --> 01:27:28.400
And this is a different group, tangential

01:27:28.400 --> 01:27:30.580
But staying point is really spyware

01:27:30.580 --> 01:27:32.500
For a MSO group found liable for hacks

01:27:32.500 --> 01:27:33.200
Of what's app users

01:27:33.200 --> 01:27:36.520
I mean, this is a very, very, very public conversation

01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:38.080
You guys know this

01:27:39.100 --> 01:27:40.420
So what's happening here

01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:42.120
Paragon

01:27:42.120 --> 01:27:44.820
One of Israel's top offensive cyber companies

01:27:44.820 --> 01:27:47.100
Has been sold to an American investment firm

01:27:47.100 --> 01:27:48.620
Known as Red Lattice

01:27:48.620 --> 01:27:50.400
An American cybersecurity firm

01:27:50.400 --> 01:27:52.740
So you might argue, well, that makes it American

01:27:52.740 --> 01:27:54.000
Well, okay, but wait a minute

01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:56.260
Now you have a company in many cases that's

01:27:56.260 --> 01:27:57.980
Object like, you know, smaller

01:27:58.400 --> 01:28:00.980
That absorbs these Israeli behemoths

01:28:00.980 --> 01:28:02.220
And they go, well, they're now, you know

01:28:02.220 --> 01:28:04.740
And then the Israeli elements

01:28:04.740 --> 01:28:05.580
Become the leader

01:28:06.100 --> 01:28:07.540
It's not every case

01:28:07.540 --> 01:28:09.060
But the ones we've highlighted

01:28:10.200 --> 01:28:11.160
It's undeniable

01:28:11.160 --> 01:28:13.860
It's an Israeli-run company that is pretending

01:28:13.860 --> 01:28:15.300
To be a U.S. company

01:28:15.300 --> 01:28:17.900
That is the article that Whitney wrote

01:28:17.900 --> 01:28:18.960
For TLav

01:28:20.280 --> 01:28:21.480
Called The Prince and the Spy

01:28:22.160 --> 01:28:23.560
Which is about Comframe

01:28:23.560 --> 01:28:26.380
And specifically Letitia Letem

01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:27.700
Letitia Letem, I believe

01:28:27.700 --> 01:28:29.380
Who is an Israeli spy that's her right there

01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:31.520
Who also

01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:33.660
Created Carbine, which by the way

01:28:33.660 --> 01:28:35.720
Acts on, you know, we've already gone over all this

01:28:36.180 --> 01:28:37.780
Absorbed and it's all this Israeli spy

01:28:38.200 --> 01:28:39.560
That's what this all comes down to

01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:41.380
These companies are Israeli-run cutouts

01:28:41.380 --> 01:28:43.440
For Israeli intelligence, and that's what she makes clear

01:28:43.440 --> 01:28:44.880
In this, I'll play the clip again in a minute

01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:47.040
From what they stated publicly in case people don't know

01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:49.000
But as she highlights as well

01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:50.960
The article in here that highlights Israeli

01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:53.320
Elements telling us that these are meant

01:28:53.320 --> 01:28:55.420
To carry on Israeli intelligence operations

01:28:56.160 --> 01:28:58.160
Now, the only reason they argue this was in

01:28:58.160 --> 01:29:00.060
His U.S. company in regard to the Comframe article

01:29:00.060 --> 01:29:01.360
Is because Eric Prince was the front

01:29:01.360 --> 01:29:03.680
Even though it was created by Israel, run by

01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:05.300
Israel, and had Israeli employees

01:29:05.300 --> 01:29:07.100
But he was there, so U.S. company

01:29:07.740 --> 01:29:08.600
That's how that works

01:29:09.440 --> 01:29:10.960
So in this case, Red Lattice

01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:12.940
I argue is the same thing

01:29:12.940 --> 01:29:15.500
It's just a way that they've now framed their most prolific

01:29:15.500 --> 01:29:17.920
Spyware company as a U.S. company

01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:19.820
That's my opinion

01:29:20.280 --> 01:29:21.420
But I think it's quite obvious

01:29:25.420 --> 01:29:28.040
Here is one of the articles from Yahoo Finance

01:29:28.040 --> 01:29:30.340
Red Lattice acquires Israeli spyware company

01:29:30.340 --> 01:29:31.600
Paragon for $500 million

01:29:34.160 --> 01:29:36.260
Red Lattice is a U.S.

01:29:36.280 --> 01:29:38.100
Owned global defense company

01:29:38.100 --> 01:29:40.500
Well, it's worth looking back at that

01:29:40.500 --> 01:29:42.120
And seeing why that happened

01:29:42.120 --> 01:29:45.000
And what the global element really comes from

01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:47.540
This is Times of Israel 2025

01:29:47.540 --> 01:29:49.840
Trump administration suddenly

01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:51.620
Reinstates its contract but has really found

01:29:51.620 --> 01:29:53.080
This spyware paymaker Paragon

01:29:53.080 --> 01:29:55.060
Well, at this point, now we're talking about the

01:29:56.060 --> 01:29:57.380
U.S. company

01:29:57.380 --> 01:29:58.240
Red Lattice

01:29:59.700 --> 01:30:00.980
And on top of that, now remember

01:30:00.980 --> 01:30:03.080
The point of this is how we can get out of these companies

01:30:03.080 --> 01:30:05.100
Just kind of get built into this apparatus

01:30:05.100 --> 01:30:06.660
The larger industry

01:30:06.660 --> 01:30:09.160
And how they just become like these background elements

01:30:09.160 --> 01:30:10.880
But are obviously

01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:12.220
Driving forward a larger agenda

01:30:12.220 --> 01:30:13.920
I might as well play that clip really quickly

01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:15.540
This is the next one we've been showing you before

01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:18.540
I mean, we covered this a while ago

01:30:18.540 --> 01:30:19.380
I think it was this one

01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:21.660
I believe so

01:30:21.660 --> 01:30:23.540
March 2026, no, it was one of those

01:30:23.540 --> 01:30:25.740
Anyways, a while ago and it's a Grey Zone article

01:30:25.740 --> 01:30:28.080
Is really, former Israeli spies

01:30:28.080 --> 01:30:29.660
Now overseeing U.S.

01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:30.620
Government cybersecurity

01:30:31.460 --> 01:30:33.760
I mean, it's why I think this is so relevant, guys

01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:34.820
Because this is so

01:30:36.200 --> 01:30:37.000
On the surface

01:30:38.620 --> 01:30:40.540
And this one I know you guys have seen many times

01:30:40.540 --> 01:30:42.120
But of course we have to play it

01:30:42.120 --> 01:30:44.260
We're talking about this and realize that people that haven't

01:30:44.260 --> 01:30:45.960
Hopefully this opens some doors for them

01:30:45.960 --> 01:30:47.300
Opens their mind to the reality

01:30:47.300 --> 01:30:49.620
That they're so brazenly telling you

01:30:49.620 --> 01:30:51.380
We make fake companies

01:30:51.380 --> 01:30:53.820
And we manipulate the things around us

01:30:53.820 --> 01:30:55.680
As the Israeli apparatus

01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:56.800
As the Israeli intelligence

01:30:57.640 --> 01:30:58.880
As the Israeli government

01:30:58.880 --> 01:31:00.700
I mean, look, the U.S. Government, I guarantee

01:31:00.700 --> 01:31:02.720
Does this around the world, we've already proven that

01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:04.600
It's about recognizing that these things

01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:07.740
What we're talking about today represent a very real problem

01:31:07.740 --> 01:31:09.460
Especially now that Trump opens this door

01:31:09.460 --> 01:31:12.220
To some private public cyber attack

01:31:12.220 --> 01:31:14.160
Company thing that I argue

01:31:14.160 --> 01:31:15.300
As you've already seen

01:31:15.300 --> 01:31:17.500
Will amount to the companies we're highlighting today

01:31:18.220 --> 01:31:19.380
I believe it will be

01:31:19.380 --> 01:31:21.020
One of the ones we're discussing, that's my opinion

01:31:21.020 --> 01:31:22.940
If not a palantir oracle type

01:31:22.940 --> 01:31:25.700
I argue it's more likely a red lattice

01:31:25.700 --> 01:31:27.220
Probably the most obvious choice

01:31:27.220 --> 01:31:29.580
The NSO, these other

01:31:30.100 --> 01:31:31.860
What was the other ones I was just talking about

01:31:31.860 --> 01:31:34.160
Anyway, I don't want to get too much into the guessing game

01:31:34.160 --> 01:31:35.840
But it's about realizing that these things

01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:37.200
Are what they're pointing to

01:31:37.200 --> 01:31:38.900
It's just a question of what they choose to pick

01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:41.540
First, let's play this and we'll get into this article

01:31:42.140 --> 01:31:43.640
What did they buy it from

01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:45.280
Or I think they were buying it from

01:31:45.280 --> 01:31:47.380
We have an incredible

01:31:47.380 --> 01:31:49.060
Array of possibilities

01:31:49.640 --> 01:31:51.980
Of creating foreign companies

01:31:51.980 --> 01:31:53.060
That have

01:31:53.340 --> 01:31:55.620
No way being traced back to Israel

01:31:55.620 --> 01:31:57.800
Shell companies over shell companies

01:31:57.800 --> 01:32:00.020
Who affect the supply chain to our favor

01:32:00.020 --> 01:32:02.420
We create a pretend world

01:32:02.420 --> 01:32:03.880
We are a global

01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:05.160
Production company

01:32:05.160 --> 01:32:06.760
We write the screenplay

01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:09.240
With the directors, with the producers

01:32:09.240 --> 01:32:10.860
With the main actors

01:32:10.860 --> 01:32:12.680
The world is our stage

01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:13.960
Did you see any surprises in Gaza?

01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:16.460
Surprises? Like the intelligence surprises

01:32:16.460 --> 01:32:18.240
Pages, walkie-talkies, do you know how many equipment

01:32:18.240 --> 01:32:20.120
I mean, treated equipment that we have in these countries

01:32:21.300 --> 01:32:22.300
You can't, you don't

01:32:22.300 --> 01:32:22.860
I do

01:32:24.360 --> 01:32:25.960
You mean booby-trapped equipment

01:32:26.960 --> 01:32:28.240
Not only booby-trapped

01:32:29.240 --> 01:32:30.040
Manipulated equipment

01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:32.420
In which countries you're talking about

01:32:32.420 --> 01:32:33.740
In all the countries that you can imagine

01:32:35.220 --> 01:32:36.460
Hard to ignore, right?

01:32:37.180 --> 01:32:37.580
Point blank

01:32:39.360 --> 01:32:40.320
Booby-trapped equipment

01:32:40.940 --> 01:32:41.740
Manipulated companies

01:32:42.780 --> 01:32:43.500
Hard to miss

01:32:44.680 --> 01:32:46.080
And really, if you ask

01:32:46.080 --> 01:32:46.940
People like

01:32:48.060 --> 01:32:48.460
Um

01:32:49.580 --> 01:32:49.980
Kirikow

01:32:50.860 --> 01:32:53.000
Oh, by the way, I believe I mispronounced his name

01:32:53.460 --> 01:32:55.320
Somebody told me recently that it's, I forget

01:32:55.320 --> 01:32:56.400
But you know what I'm talking about

01:32:56.920 --> 01:32:59.560
Or plenty of others that have been, you know, like a Wilkerson

01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:01.280
Like they will straight point blank

01:33:01.280 --> 01:33:02.840
Tell you that this is what's happening

01:33:03.740 --> 01:33:05.780
And we just can't seem to acknowledge that

01:33:05.780 --> 01:33:07.400
And this is from December 3rd, 2025

01:33:07.400 --> 01:33:09.860
Just really quickly, just to make sure you read

01:33:09.860 --> 01:33:11.240
All of these in depth, the Pentagon

01:33:11.240 --> 01:33:13.080
And by the way, I believe it's this one

01:33:13.080 --> 01:33:14.460
We go through this pretty far in depth

01:33:14.460 --> 01:33:16.080
It might have been this one, I forget

01:33:16.080 --> 01:33:16.820
One of these in here

01:33:16.820 --> 01:33:19.120
The Pentagon Treasury Department, DHS

01:33:19.120 --> 01:33:21.280
And a variety of other U.S. government agencies

01:33:21.280 --> 01:33:23.800
Have begun relying on a firm launched by

01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:25.600
A former Israeli military intelligence

01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:28.660
Operative to consolidate and protect their data

01:33:28.660 --> 01:33:30.220
I mean, it's just like these stories

01:33:30.220 --> 01:33:32.080
Just blend into each other

01:33:32.080 --> 01:33:34.320
This is, I mean, you take everything we're dealing with

01:33:34.320 --> 01:33:36.380
In this country, all the different points that have been changed

01:33:36.380 --> 01:33:38.620
It seems all of them tie back to some kind of

01:33:38.620 --> 01:33:39.840
Something like this

01:33:40.820 --> 01:33:43.160
A company with deep ties to Israeli intelligence

01:33:43.160 --> 01:33:45.260
Overseas cybersecurity across more than

01:33:45.260 --> 01:33:46.960
70 U.S. government agencies

01:33:47.480 --> 01:33:49.440
A U.S. Israeli intelligence company

01:33:49.440 --> 01:33:51.400
Is overseeing cybersecurity

01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:54.360
Across more than 70 U.S. government agencies

01:33:54.360 --> 01:33:56.000
And now you're talking about working with

01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:57.880
Other, you know, these other elements

01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:00.120
To fight overseas in the same way

01:34:00.120 --> 01:34:01.500
This feels like an effort to

01:34:01.500 --> 01:34:04.560
Like whatever they're doing is now being expanded out

01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:06.680
In, like, you know, the Israeli infiltration

01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:08.120
Is being run through the U.S. government

01:34:08.120 --> 01:34:10.140
Like, you know, like every other day

01:34:10.140 --> 01:34:12.040
I think we've talked about hyperbolic, I guess

01:34:12.040 --> 01:34:14.080
But overall, I do believe we're talking about

01:34:14.080 --> 01:34:15.600
Something that has been going on a long time

01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:17.880
And something that what we're seeing is, you know

01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:19.440
Almost like the U.S. government has become some

01:34:19.440 --> 01:34:21.360
Some sort of, you know, leap pad

01:34:21.360 --> 01:34:23.540
Launching pad for all this around the world

01:34:24.100 --> 01:34:26.020
Just a thought because obviously we can see this

01:34:26.020 --> 01:34:28.080
Continue and what I find so crazy is that

01:34:28.080 --> 01:34:30.040
Trump in particular seems to have, you know

01:34:30.040 --> 01:34:32.340
Loves to kind of push back in little ways publicly

01:34:32.340 --> 01:34:34.280
But when it comes down to it, never

01:34:34.280 --> 01:34:35.820
Pushes back against what they do

01:34:35.820 --> 01:34:38.060
Never calls out, I don't even think he mentioned

01:34:38.060 --> 01:34:40.520
The fact that Netanyahu said, screw your God's a plan

01:34:41.620 --> 01:34:44.260
Just move forward. Now, this goes on

01:34:44.260 --> 01:34:45.280
This is the company they're discussing

01:34:46.620 --> 01:34:47.920
Axonis, of course, interestingly

01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:50.040
Axonis was founded by

01:34:50.040 --> 01:34:52.060
Former spies in Israeli unit 8200

01:34:52.060 --> 01:34:54.500
I mean, imagine if a bunch of former CIA agents

01:34:54.500 --> 01:34:56.180
Created a spyware company

01:34:56.180 --> 01:34:58.080
And that wouldn't be weird for some other

01:34:58.080 --> 01:35:00.320
Country to use them to work on their cyber security

01:35:00.320 --> 01:35:02.100
I just don't get why this doesn't make

01:35:02.100 --> 01:35:04.060
Why this makes sense to anybody and it says

01:35:04.060 --> 01:35:06.200
Which allows an operator visibility and control

01:35:06.200 --> 01:35:08.780
Over all types and number of devices

01:35:09.320 --> 01:35:11.040
Collects and analyzes the digital data

01:35:11.040 --> 01:35:12.740
Of millions of U.S. federal employees

01:35:12.740 --> 01:35:14.640
The stated aim of this company

01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:16.720
Is to centralize IT tools to

01:35:16.720 --> 01:35:18.340
Identify and fix security breaches

01:35:18.340 --> 01:35:20.060
Of course, we'll centralize it and get it

01:35:20.060 --> 01:35:21.520
All in the same place and we'll keep it secure

01:35:21.940 --> 01:35:24.160
And what happens, like all the rest we've seen

01:35:24.160 --> 01:35:26.060
Like the conframe point, like plenty of others

01:35:26.060 --> 01:35:28.140
We're ultimately, they use

01:35:28.140 --> 01:35:29.980
Israeli cyber security and then

01:35:29.980 --> 01:35:30.820
Ultimately get hacked

01:35:31.460 --> 01:35:33.800
And then you question, well, did they get hacked

01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:35.900
Or was that just simply a backdoor for that very

01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:37.400
That's the question

01:35:37.940 --> 01:35:39.660
And historically it seems pretty consistent

01:35:39.660 --> 01:35:41.540
Now what's interesting is they highlight this

01:35:41.540 --> 01:35:43.320
Showing you as one of the important points

01:35:43.320 --> 01:35:45.220
That this guy who works there

01:35:45.220 --> 01:35:47.580
Was also working for Israeli military intelligence

01:35:47.580 --> 01:35:49.560
Well, what's funny is it's exactly

01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:50.900
What I'm pointing out about this guy

01:35:50.900 --> 01:35:53.480
When it comes to fuck

01:35:53.480 --> 01:35:57.360
He's been working, had seven years in military intelligence

01:35:57.360 --> 01:35:58.480
And he's currently

01:36:01.160 --> 01:36:03.640
The algorithm and systems engineer

01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:04.840
For flock safety

01:36:05.480 --> 01:36:06.820
Seems relevant to me

01:36:06.820 --> 01:36:09.900
This is obvious that there's a massive thing

01:36:09.900 --> 01:36:10.420
That's happening

01:36:12.320 --> 01:36:14.700
This article's from June 7th, 2026

01:36:14.700 --> 01:36:16.560
The unit that ate cyber security

01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:18.680
From Stuxnet

01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:20.540
To a $32 billion exit

01:36:20.540 --> 01:36:22.560
How Israel's $8,200 became

01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:24.660
The backbone of global cyber defense

01:36:25.480 --> 01:36:26.900
And a critical threat

01:36:26.900 --> 01:36:28.720
Also a well written article

01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:30.500
There's some different points in here that I may

01:36:31.060 --> 01:36:32.000
Frame differently

01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:33.600
But just to give you the larger point

01:36:34.380 --> 01:36:36.560
It's kind of the end point in the larger

01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:38.140
The idea simply that, you know

01:36:38.140 --> 01:36:38.980
It's both

01:36:38.980 --> 01:36:42.520
You can't be the backbone

01:36:42.520 --> 01:36:44.460
Of defense but also the critical threat

01:36:44.460 --> 01:36:46.660
That underlies, rather that undermines

01:36:46.660 --> 01:36:47.660
That very backbone

01:36:47.660 --> 01:36:49.540
Because that's an oxymoron

01:36:49.540 --> 01:36:51.020
This makes sense and that's what people are

01:36:51.020 --> 01:36:53.360
I think, largely, hopefully starting to see

01:36:53.360 --> 01:36:55.360
What other governments aren't able to do anything about

01:36:56.200 --> 01:36:57.580
Now it says to understand

01:36:57.580 --> 01:37:00.040
Why the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency

01:37:00.040 --> 01:37:02.280
Just raided its closest Middle Eastern ally

01:37:02.280 --> 01:37:04.400
As a critical counterintelligence threat

01:37:04.400 --> 01:37:05.080
Which we discussed

01:37:05.580 --> 01:37:07.800
And why the exploding pager operation

01:37:07.800 --> 01:37:09.620
That maimed thousands of Hezbollah members

01:37:09.620 --> 01:37:10.560
Was even possible

01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:12.340
You have to follow a single thread

01:37:12.340 --> 01:37:13.620
That runs through all of it

01:37:13.620 --> 01:37:15.500
It starts in the Department of Energy Lab

01:37:15.500 --> 01:37:16.520
Around 2007

01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:18.480
Runs through a worm that escaped

01:37:18.480 --> 01:37:20.420
Into the open internet on 2010

01:37:20.420 --> 01:37:22.680
Escaped and ends in 2026

01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:24.380
With Google paying $32 billion

01:37:24.380 --> 01:37:27.340
For a four-year-old Israeli startup

01:37:27.340 --> 01:37:29.520
Whose founders all served together

01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:31.160
In the same military intelligence arm

01:37:31.160 --> 01:37:33.060
Almost like there was a plan, you know

01:37:34.060 --> 01:37:35.440
There's a lot of good information

01:37:35.440 --> 01:37:36.720
The point is simply this

01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:39.820
Stuxnet proved a state could weaponize code

01:37:39.820 --> 01:37:41.940
To break the physical world

01:37:41.940 --> 01:37:43.840
Grim beeper, which is what they

01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:45.040
Ridiculously call the

01:37:45.860 --> 01:37:47.900
One of the most obvious terrorist attacks

01:37:47.900 --> 01:37:48.640
I've ever seen in my life

01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:50.300
Where they put out a bunch of pagers for years

01:37:50.300 --> 01:37:52.940
And then just exploded them around a bunch of civilians

01:37:54.060 --> 01:37:55.720
That they claimed proved a state

01:37:55.720 --> 01:37:58.060
Could weaponize the supply chain itself

01:37:58.060 --> 01:37:59.940
Just like the clip we played

01:38:00.500 --> 01:38:02.400
And the unit 8200 ecosystem

01:38:02.400 --> 01:38:05.200
Proved that the human capital behind both

01:38:05.200 --> 01:38:07.980
Could be spun into a commercial empire

01:38:07.980 --> 01:38:10.800
So deeply woven into global infrastructure

01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:13.180
That you cannot cleanly separate

01:38:13.780 --> 01:38:15.760
The cyber power we rely on

01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:18.380
From the cyber power we are warned about

01:38:18.380 --> 01:38:18.840
In quotes

01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:21.500
None of these three facts is new

01:38:21.500 --> 01:38:24.300
What's new in 2026 is that they're finally

01:38:24.300 --> 01:38:26.880
Being held in the same hand at the same time

01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:29.440
Like we just read, that's the major EO point

01:38:29.440 --> 01:38:31.540
By the Pentagon, by the regulators

01:38:31.540 --> 01:38:33.500
Waving through 30 billion dollar deals

01:38:33.500 --> 01:38:36.800
And by every SCISO

01:38:37.360 --> 01:38:39.660
Who just realized that

01:38:39.660 --> 01:38:41.580
Where did this technology come from

01:38:41.580 --> 01:38:42.460
And who built it

01:38:43.260 --> 01:38:45.220
Is no longer a marketing question

01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:47.520
It's a threat model question

01:38:48.080 --> 01:38:49.840
The same one Hezbollah should have asked

01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:50.480
About his pagers

01:38:51.620 --> 01:38:53.060
Well, now they are, right?

01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:54.860
But ultimately, I mean this is

01:38:54.860 --> 01:38:58.940
It shows you an infiltration of the global dynamic

01:38:59.840 --> 01:39:01.440
I just don't know why this can't get

01:39:01.440 --> 01:39:03.580
Called out by the majority of people

01:39:03.580 --> 01:39:05.460
Because I know why the systems don't call it out

01:39:05.460 --> 01:39:07.820
But my God, how do we not call this out every day?

01:39:07.820 --> 01:39:12.440
I mean, things like this everywhere, right?

01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:15.240
Walt's getting caught using a tele-message

01:39:15.240 --> 01:39:16.720
Israeli intelligence app

01:39:16.720 --> 01:39:19.180
That archives signal in the inner circle

01:39:19.180 --> 01:39:19.720
Of the White House

01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:22.600
Of course, that gets largely misrepresented

01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:23.360
In his signal gate

01:39:23.360 --> 01:39:25.020
And nobody really talks about the fact

01:39:25.020 --> 01:39:26.540
That it was an Israeli intelligence app

01:39:26.540 --> 01:39:27.460
That he got caught with

01:39:27.460 --> 01:39:29.220
And he got quietly pushed aside as an ambassador

01:39:29.220 --> 01:39:30.300
You know, normal stuff

01:39:31.540 --> 01:39:33.840
We have Trump releasing a White House app

01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:35.160
That has dangerous spyware

01:39:35.160 --> 01:39:37.060
Literally Israeli spyware

01:39:37.060 --> 01:39:38.780
Coming back under Trump's administration

01:39:38.780 --> 01:39:40.980
This was March 29, 2026

01:39:41.600 --> 01:39:43.200
Remember the app? We talked about it?

01:39:43.220 --> 01:39:44.900
I mean, it's insane. How many examples we have?

01:39:45.040 --> 01:39:47.400
Now, was this Trump knowingly trying to see this in-depth

01:39:47.400 --> 01:39:48.780
Or was he just being used?

01:39:49.400 --> 01:39:49.800
Don't know

01:39:50.320 --> 01:39:51.680
This one's from 2025

01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:53.040
Smartphones worldwide

01:39:53.040 --> 01:39:55.140
Silently infected with Israeli spyware

01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:57.260
This was the Intellexa

01:39:57.840 --> 01:40:00.020
One of the companies that article argues

01:40:00.020 --> 01:40:01.740
Is likely to be the one Trump's pointing to

01:40:01.740 --> 01:40:02.640
Like an NSO group

01:40:02.640 --> 01:40:04.980
Or the red lattice element

01:40:06.160 --> 01:40:08.560
And again, Derek writing this in 2024

01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:11.340
Meet the spyware companies preparing to unleash their tech

01:40:11.340 --> 01:40:12.760
During Trump's second term

01:40:14.080 --> 01:40:14.860
Saw it coming

01:40:14.860 --> 01:40:16.900
I sure wish we could have stopped this, right?

01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:19.260
Selbright being one we've already dealt with

01:40:19.260 --> 01:40:20.860
Clearview AI we've already dealt with

01:40:20.860 --> 01:40:22.880
We've already called out, already seen, penlink

01:40:22.880 --> 01:40:24.900
More to come, unfortunately

01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:29.300
Now, talking about Iran to finish up

01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:32.380
I wanted to get a couple points in before we have to wrap

01:40:32.860 --> 01:40:34.420
And ultimately what I want to highlight

01:40:34.420 --> 01:40:36.960
Is this connection, you know, to a couple that

01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:37.820
Well, actually, hold on a second

01:40:42.340 --> 01:40:43.840
I think I mixed this up

01:40:44.300 --> 01:40:45.640
Hold on, I think this goes

01:40:47.380 --> 01:40:47.780
Here

01:40:50.580 --> 01:40:51.260
There it is

01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:55.160
Before we get into

01:40:55.160 --> 01:40:56.620
Actually, I'm glad I didn't miss that

01:40:56.620 --> 01:40:57.720
Before we get to Iran

01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:00.320
The carryover point to this

01:41:00.320 --> 01:41:02.240
Is obviously the surveillance side of it, right?

01:41:02.240 --> 01:41:04.060
I forgot if I pulled this off

01:41:04.060 --> 01:41:05.740
I've got a whole bunch that I want to go over about

01:41:05.740 --> 01:41:06.980
Ice that we will get into

01:41:06.980 --> 01:41:08.940
Just, I mean, guys, just like

01:41:09.820 --> 01:41:11.660
Absolutely insane level stuff where you have

01:41:11.660 --> 01:41:14.080
Ice members standing on people's heads

01:41:14.700 --> 01:41:16.740
Like literally putting their entire weight on

01:41:16.740 --> 01:41:17.880
Somebody's head on the concrete

01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:19.340
Who's like almost unconscious

01:41:19.340 --> 01:41:22.780
Because they're clearly just deranged people

01:41:22.780 --> 01:41:23.800
Not every single one

01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:25.180
But the ones that we're seeing

01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:28.100
Vindictively spray people or whatever

01:41:28.100 --> 01:41:29.840
They're just, I mean, it's insane what we're watching

01:41:29.840 --> 01:41:32.200
And that's honestly as much as that's in

01:41:32.200 --> 01:41:33.720
Just criminal

01:41:34.500 --> 01:41:35.060
Unbelievable

01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:37.040
It's the smallest part of the story

01:41:37.040 --> 01:41:39.700
Because what we're talking about is this national force

01:41:39.700 --> 01:41:41.860
That's marching around with no accountability

01:41:41.860 --> 01:41:43.120
No warrants, no

01:41:44.100 --> 01:41:46.280
Faceless enforcers who are being given

01:41:46.280 --> 01:41:47.180
Israeli spyware

01:41:47.180 --> 01:41:48.800
Who are spying on Americans, who are

01:41:49.740 --> 01:41:51.220
Violating rights of everybody

01:41:51.980 --> 01:41:53.380
This is from 2025

01:41:53.380 --> 01:41:55.460
Trump gives green light for that deal

01:41:55.460 --> 01:41:58.060
For the same, that's the same story

01:41:58.060 --> 01:42:00.160
I just want to point out that, of course, part of it was to Ice

01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:02.420
So Ice is using Israeli spyware

01:42:02.420 --> 01:42:03.700
On top of everything else we're talking about

01:42:03.700 --> 01:42:04.380
Which you already know

01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:07.780
This is all I had this mixed up on accident

01:42:08.420 --> 01:42:10.100
We'll come back to that, just to make a joke about it

01:42:10.100 --> 01:42:11.260
But in case you didn't see this

01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:13.180
This is real, by the way

01:42:13.180 --> 01:42:14.760
And this is 404 Media put this out

01:42:14.760 --> 01:42:16.920
Or excuse me, trying to rush

01:42:17.280 --> 01:42:19.300
There is an article I believe they put out about it

01:42:19.300 --> 01:42:22.140
But I meant to kind of breeze by this

01:42:22.140 --> 01:42:22.940
And I'm just ruining it

01:42:22.940 --> 01:42:25.260
But the point was I want to get into all this in the next show

01:42:25.260 --> 01:42:26.780
But in case you didn't see it

01:42:26.780 --> 01:42:27.900
Ice has these

01:42:27.900 --> 01:42:30.880
Or they want to be buying and investing in what they call these

01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:32.100
Shock gloves, which are real

01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:34.160
And it says up to 20 million dollars

01:42:34.160 --> 01:42:36.480
Which I don't believe has happened yet, but I think it's up in the air

01:42:37.300 --> 01:42:39.260
Devices that deliver painful electric shocks

01:42:39.260 --> 01:42:41.140
As soon as you put contact on skin

01:42:41.980 --> 01:42:42.900
And this is not a joke

01:42:42.900 --> 01:42:43.680
These are real

01:42:44.400 --> 01:42:45.780
And it's a police officer

01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:47.240
Look at that

01:42:48.300 --> 01:42:49.120
So, I mean

01:42:50.320 --> 01:42:51.840
There's going to be some that go good

01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:52.520
Bad guys

01:42:53.060 --> 01:42:55.100
Because they're complete bootlicking followers

01:42:55.100 --> 01:42:57.180
Who don't realize that's not just bad guys

01:42:57.180 --> 01:42:58.200
Who are being enforced on

01:42:58.200 --> 01:42:59.600
In fact, it seems that most of them are not

01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:01.920
That's not because there's not bad guys they could be getting

01:43:01.920 --> 01:43:03.820
It's because that says something else, guys

01:43:03.820 --> 01:43:05.460
But I just think it's important to realize

01:43:05.460 --> 01:43:06.360
Now, this was just simply

01:43:07.480 --> 01:43:09.500
Flock pitched a plan to turn Uber

01:43:09.500 --> 01:43:11.940
And lift the drivers into roaming surveillance vehicles

01:43:11.940 --> 01:43:13.820
With overlapping what we just talked about

01:43:13.820 --> 01:43:14.960
With the Flock Connect to Israel

01:43:14.960 --> 01:43:17.700
I mean, this is, this surveillance apparatus

01:43:17.700 --> 01:43:18.400
Is everywhere

01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:20.300
And it's clearly

01:43:21.680 --> 01:43:23.020
Inconsistent as a light word to use

01:43:23.020 --> 01:43:24.660
With our constitutional rights

01:43:24.660 --> 01:43:27.040
And it's obviously being abused everywhere

01:43:27.760 --> 01:43:29.680
The idea we know that Israeli soldiers

01:43:29.680 --> 01:43:31.500
Serving with ICE is not a secret

01:43:31.500 --> 01:43:33.940
We know that this is a very clear overlap

01:43:33.940 --> 01:43:35.900
That's been highlighted, the training and everything else

01:43:35.900 --> 01:43:37.920
ICE and the IDF, the transnational

01:43:37.920 --> 01:43:39.320
Nexus of state control

01:43:40.160 --> 01:43:41.580
Seven C's points out as well

01:43:41.580 --> 01:43:43.160
ICE is infiltrated, trained and equipped

01:43:43.160 --> 01:43:45.840
By the IDF, their national counter-terrorism seminars

01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:47.720
Take place in Israel. He's not wrong

01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:49.900
Here's Bavino, like we already showed you

01:43:49.900 --> 01:43:51.840
Outwinding, that's exactly the truth

01:43:54.560 --> 01:43:55.000
Israel

01:43:55.780 --> 01:43:58.060
Like, you know, the nation over there

01:43:58.060 --> 01:44:01.180
Has a lot, a lot of influence

01:44:02.060 --> 01:44:03.760
On the Israeli government

01:44:03.760 --> 01:44:06.900
Has a lot of influence on our politicians over here, I think

01:44:06.900 --> 01:44:08.780
Is what he was kind of getting at

01:44:08.780 --> 01:44:10.020
I see, yeah

01:44:10.020 --> 01:44:12.100
And, you know, I'm not a politician

01:44:12.100 --> 01:44:13.560
So I don't know and, you know, it's

01:44:13.560 --> 01:44:16.000
The only things I ever had with the Israelis

01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:17.720
Is when I was a young

01:44:17.720 --> 01:44:20.020
Agent with Bortrak, Bortrak's tactical unit

01:44:20.020 --> 01:44:21.740
They sent me to a

01:44:21.740 --> 01:44:23.180
VIP security

01:44:24.060 --> 01:44:24.460
School

01:44:24.460 --> 01:44:26.640
And it was ran by the Israelis

01:44:26.640 --> 01:44:29.680
So, I mean, think about that statement

01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:31.620
He doesn't even realize, I guess, what he was saying

01:44:31.620 --> 01:44:33.520
When you were a young recruit

01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:36.340
So, yeah, so this has been going on a long time, guys

01:44:36.340 --> 01:44:37.560
The ICE element

01:44:37.560 --> 01:44:39.320
Has been going on, let me, all of this

01:44:39.320 --> 01:44:40.780
But like what we're seeing today

01:44:40.780 --> 01:44:42.540
Is a wild increase

01:44:42.540 --> 01:44:43.860
So it's just important to realize

01:44:43.860 --> 01:44:45.520
And they've been denying that forever

01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:47.260
That's why this kid goes, oh, that is true

01:44:47.260 --> 01:44:49.100
Because every time it comes up, it's denied

01:44:49.920 --> 01:44:50.920
It's not a secret

01:44:51.940 --> 01:44:54.320
What's his name, Aglera

01:44:54.320 --> 01:44:55.920
The guy came back from Gaza

01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:56.640
He was the veteran

01:44:57.380 --> 01:44:59.500
He told himself, he was there, he watched it

01:44:59.500 --> 01:45:00.860
But we know this

01:45:00.860 --> 01:45:03.180
We have IDF coming to train police forces

01:45:03.180 --> 01:45:05.440
Not ubiquitously, but it happens all over this country

01:45:05.440 --> 01:45:07.060
Largely at the leadership level

01:45:07.060 --> 01:45:08.100
But this is real

01:45:08.100 --> 01:45:11.000
And why do you think we're seeing these tactics played out

01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:12.160
On our streets today, guys?

01:45:12.480 --> 01:45:14.800
It's not even a question, it's a statement

01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:15.780
Of obvious nature

01:45:16.740 --> 01:45:19.180
These people are being trained in the same tactics

01:45:19.180 --> 01:45:20.920
And we're watching those tactics play out

01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:22.960
In American streets, your rights be damned

01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:24.860
DEF actually does work with

01:45:24.860 --> 01:45:26.460
Border Patrol in ICE

01:45:26.460 --> 01:45:27.500
Because I've always heard that

01:45:28.080 --> 01:45:31.240
Well, that school is for all law enforcement

01:45:31.240 --> 01:45:32.580
So not just ICE

01:45:32.580 --> 01:45:33.700
Thanks for making that clear

01:45:33.700 --> 01:45:35.180
They put it on, it was Israeli

01:45:35.180 --> 01:45:37.720
They contracted with Israeli instructors

01:45:37.720 --> 01:45:38.940
They had a lot of experience

01:45:38.940 --> 01:45:40.260
And they were really good

01:45:41.220 --> 01:45:42.960
Good from what Vivino knows

01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:45.260
Looking at what Vivino does, how he acts

01:45:45.260 --> 01:45:47.580
And what he operates, that's what he thinks is good

01:45:47.580 --> 01:45:49.200
See how clear that is?

01:45:50.860 --> 01:45:52.960
Hands off of some of the best training I've ever had

01:45:52.960 --> 01:45:54.420
They did not eff around

01:45:54.420 --> 01:45:56.040
So that was back

01:45:56.040 --> 01:45:57.740
And they treat you like you're foreign terrorists

01:45:57.740 --> 01:45:59.460
Because you disagree with their statements

01:45:59.460 --> 01:46:02.060
You know, 2000, 2001

01:46:02.060 --> 01:46:03.500
But I understand

01:46:05.080 --> 01:46:05.920
2000, 2001

01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:07.840
My God

01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:10.100
I mean, if that was before 9-11

01:46:10.100 --> 01:46:10.920
That says a lot

01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:13.500
You know what people are saying? Perhaps there is

01:46:13.500 --> 01:46:15.300
An outsized influence by Israel

01:46:15.960 --> 01:46:17.800
But I don't know, I'm just a guy

01:46:17.800 --> 01:46:18.240
Whatever

01:46:19.180 --> 01:46:21.360
Maybe doesn't have any idea what's going on

01:46:21.360 --> 01:46:23.960
But at the end of the day, guys, that's very, very revealing

01:46:24.940 --> 01:46:26.300
Now, to wrap up

01:46:26.300 --> 01:46:27.720
Just kind of give you a quick update

01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:29.460
Again, you probably already know what's going on

01:46:29.460 --> 01:46:31.460
Iran, this is as of the 10th

01:46:31.980 --> 01:46:33.220
Today's the 14th

01:46:33.220 --> 01:46:35.020
Iran rules out talks with Trump

01:46:35.020 --> 01:46:37.680
Says he will wait until his term ends in 2029

01:46:38.500 --> 01:46:39.640
Now, that's already changed

01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:41.760
I mean, but I argue this was more of a political statement

01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:43.720
Kind of saying, you know what, we don't need you

01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:46.060
We'll just wait, you know, you're not relevant anymore

01:46:46.460 --> 01:46:48.120
It's a game of propaganda, clearly

01:46:49.500 --> 01:46:50.980
Now, I want to point this out

01:46:50.980 --> 01:46:52.780
Z Media says if the straight remains

01:46:52.780 --> 01:46:54.140
Closed until 2029

01:46:54.140 --> 01:46:56.020
It will be levels of catastrophic

01:46:56.020 --> 01:46:57.660
The world can't even begin to imagine

01:46:57.660 --> 01:46:59.240
Which, well, yeah, obviously, if it is

01:46:59.240 --> 01:47:00.580
I doubt that's what we're talking about

01:47:00.580 --> 01:47:01.980
And I think that's important to think about

01:47:01.980 --> 01:47:04.280
I mean, again, guys, is it possible? Yes

01:47:04.280 --> 01:47:07.260
But I argue the entire world would step up to stop that

01:47:07.260 --> 01:47:09.720
If this can, that's what Trump had planned on

01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:11.560
That's what Israel convinced him

01:47:11.560 --> 01:47:13.000
In my opinion was the original plan

01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:14.580
That Iran would shut it down

01:47:14.580 --> 01:47:15.960
They did not do that

01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:17.880
And I keep making this point, guys

01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:19.600
Because it's becoming even more relevant again

01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:21.080
That they didn't shut it down

01:47:21.080 --> 01:47:22.520
They were allowing people to go through

01:47:22.520 --> 01:47:24.880
That were not at war with them and the media lied about that

01:47:25.580 --> 01:47:26.780
Very provably, guys

01:47:26.780 --> 01:47:28.920
It's like the minds and everything else we talked about

01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:30.940
But then, of course, what happened is Trump and Netanyahu

01:47:30.940 --> 01:47:32.680
You know, they murdered their religious leaders

01:47:32.680 --> 01:47:34.520
They bombed their negotiating team

01:47:34.520 --> 01:47:36.460
They tried to assassinate them a different time

01:47:36.460 --> 01:47:38.740
Clearly they drove them to take action

01:47:38.740 --> 01:47:39.600
That we can see today

01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:42.500
But what my point is that only when that happened

01:47:42.500 --> 01:47:43.900
Did you see the larger restriction

01:47:43.900 --> 01:47:45.940
And a few different points including

01:47:46.370 --> 01:47:48.960
To a large degree right now where they went full shutdown

01:47:49.820 --> 01:47:50.500
Now that

01:47:50.500 --> 01:47:52.660
Is important to see, but that's not what

01:47:52.660 --> 01:47:54.220
It seems Iran was even close to

01:47:54.220 --> 01:47:56.120
I mean, it's clear that's not what they wanted

01:47:56.120 --> 01:47:58.340
It's clear that they did, I mean, they want to shut it down

01:47:58.340 --> 01:48:00.160
Instantly if that's what they wanted, they did not

01:48:00.160 --> 01:48:02.080
So what I think is important to highlight here

01:48:02.080 --> 01:48:04.280
Is that the idea that they would shut it down until then

01:48:04.280 --> 01:48:06.600
Is unrealistic if not ridiculous

01:48:07.260 --> 01:48:08.480
Because Iran's not stupid

01:48:08.480 --> 01:48:09.560
And they know what that will do

01:48:09.560 --> 01:48:11.540
It'll turn the world against them when they don't

01:48:11.540 --> 01:48:14.400
Right now it seems they've got more support than anybody

01:48:14.400 --> 01:48:16.260
In regard to the, you know, in the dynamic

01:48:16.260 --> 01:48:17.800
Of Israel, the US and Iran

01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:19.760
And so I think that's worth noting

01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:21.700
Is that this is kind of what they want you to think

01:48:22.240 --> 01:48:23.800
Right, or really that we would assume

01:48:23.800 --> 01:48:26.480
That Iran is some, you know, maniacal element

01:48:26.480 --> 01:48:27.440
Not to say that's what she thinks

01:48:27.440 --> 01:48:29.140
But just to use the point to make this point

01:48:29.140 --> 01:48:31.580
That ultimately we have some, you know, maniacal Iranian

01:48:31.580 --> 01:48:33.880
Thing that just wants to destroy the world for its agenda

01:48:33.880 --> 01:48:35.220
I mean, guys, if you've been paying attention

01:48:35.220 --> 01:48:37.860
Even momentarily, it's very

01:48:37.860 --> 01:48:40.240
It's one of the most clear things

01:48:40.240 --> 01:48:42.060
Of this entire situation

01:48:42.060 --> 01:48:44.580
That Iran has been acting with restraint

01:48:44.580 --> 01:48:47.040
That's not to say that that's who they are

01:48:47.040 --> 01:48:48.600
That they're a good guy doing the right thing

01:48:48.600 --> 01:48:50.140
I don't think that. I think they're governments

01:48:50.140 --> 01:48:51.300
Who are doing what's in their best interest

01:48:51.300 --> 01:48:54.200
Like all of them, but what's in their best interest

01:48:54.200 --> 01:48:56.320
Clearly is to play the counterbalance

01:48:56.320 --> 01:48:57.720
To the belligerence of the US government

01:48:57.720 --> 01:48:59.840
But at the same time, I don't think that you can

01:48:59.840 --> 01:49:02.080
Histories that look back, they don't operate the same way

01:49:02.080 --> 01:49:04.260
They've been misrepresented my entire life

01:49:04.260 --> 01:49:05.980
By this government who is committing genocide

01:49:05.980 --> 01:49:07.600
And murdering and overtaking countries

01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:09.140
And it doesn't mean that they're a good guy though

01:49:09.140 --> 01:49:11.000
It's another government that's done plenty of bad things

01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:12.680
To their people. At the end of the day

01:49:12.680 --> 01:49:14.680
With what's going on, it's obvious

01:49:14.680 --> 01:49:17.180
The intent is not what they're claiming it is

01:49:17.180 --> 01:49:18.840
And they don't want to shut this down

01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:20.940
And if it's shut down for in continuing

01:49:20.940 --> 01:49:22.400
Periods of time going forward, it's because

01:49:22.400 --> 01:49:24.440
Trump and his team make that happen

01:49:24.440 --> 01:49:26.680
Because they don't want to be seen to lose

01:49:26.680 --> 01:49:29.200
And rather, Israel does through all of them

01:49:29.200 --> 01:49:30.740
Because it's clear they're not even able to make

01:49:30.740 --> 01:49:32.480
These decisions. I just thought that was important

01:49:32.480 --> 01:49:35.020
Will it stay closed if Trump doesn't comply?

01:49:35.280 --> 01:49:36.920
I doubt it. I think it'll become a situation

01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:38.860
Where, like we already saw, Iran

01:49:38.860 --> 01:49:40.600
Tries to make deals with everybody else

01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:42.760
And tries to continue to isolate

01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:45.360
Israel and the United States, which is happening right now

01:49:45.360 --> 01:49:46.760
It's the worst thinking about

01:49:47.580 --> 01:49:48.360
But who knows?

01:49:48.700 --> 01:49:50.780
You don't know what's going on. That's the point. It's all our opinion

01:49:50.780 --> 01:49:52.820
Now, on the 10th

01:49:52.820 --> 01:49:55.020
President Trump says, Iran's begging for a deal

01:49:55.020 --> 01:49:56.920
Yes, we could all laugh

01:49:56.920 --> 01:49:58.960
Because that's got to be the dumbest thing

01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:00.520
He could have possibly said

01:50:00.520 --> 01:50:02.600
When you know that's not true, guys

01:50:03.420 --> 01:50:04.920
Literally, you know that's not true

01:50:04.920 --> 01:50:06.080
Thank you, Mama

01:50:06.520 --> 01:50:08.920
Middle Mama Sue. Anthony Aguilar was the guy

01:50:08.920 --> 01:50:10.460
The veteran who came back from Gaza

01:50:10.460 --> 01:50:11.360
Just posted out the chat

01:50:13.240 --> 01:50:15.040
Holds all the cards with his uno picture

01:50:15.040 --> 01:50:16.140
Right, how embarrassing

01:50:16.140 --> 01:50:17.640
Well, I just want to reiterate

01:50:17.640 --> 01:50:19.280
He's already said that before

01:50:19.280 --> 01:50:22.500
Here's March 26th, or I could literally do like every two days

01:50:22.500 --> 01:50:23.200
Following that

01:50:23.200 --> 01:50:25.440
Trump says Iran's begging for a deal

01:50:25.440 --> 01:50:28.280
Like I keep showing you over the time doing this

01:50:28.280 --> 01:50:30.380
If that was true on March 26th

01:50:30.380 --> 01:50:32.200
How in the world would we be here right now?

01:50:33.260 --> 01:50:35.060
The only world that makes sense

01:50:35.060 --> 01:50:36.300
Is that Trump has allowed that

01:50:36.300 --> 01:50:37.980
Because he doesn't want to do the thing

01:50:37.980 --> 01:50:39.800
He keeps telling you, that's not true

01:50:39.800 --> 01:50:40.920
I don't even finish the sentence

01:50:41.560 --> 01:50:43.060
That's ridiculous to think that he

01:50:43.060 --> 01:50:45.440
Because they've gone to bomb anyway

01:50:45.440 --> 01:50:47.720
So we'll read a belief they bombed a little bit

01:50:47.720 --> 01:50:49.120
Just to make sure, come on guys

01:50:49.120 --> 01:50:51.840
Like it takes a special kind of willful ignorance

01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:53.380
To think that this is the truth

01:50:53.380 --> 01:50:56.120
And honestly I think half the people saying this

01:50:56.120 --> 01:50:57.340
Don't even believe it

01:50:57.840 --> 01:51:00.280
They're either the guys that go along with whatever they say

01:51:00.280 --> 01:51:01.620
And don't even care what the truth is

01:51:01.620 --> 01:51:04.180
Or they know it's wrong and they're too afraid to point it out

01:51:04.180 --> 01:51:05.620
Because that's their entire thing

01:51:07.420 --> 01:51:08.540
August 2nd

01:51:08.540 --> 01:51:10.400
Trump says Iran deal eminent

01:51:10.400 --> 01:51:11.400
Remember that?

01:51:11.940 --> 01:51:14.500
Wait a minute, it's August 14th

01:51:14.500 --> 01:51:16.560
Didn't you just say yes because it wasn't happening

01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:18.080
I know you know this

01:51:18.080 --> 01:51:19.220
I'm just accentuating the point

01:51:19.220 --> 01:51:21.060
It's really sad that people keep going along

01:51:21.060 --> 01:51:22.280
Now as of yesterday

01:51:22.280 --> 01:51:25.960
Iran reports no progress in restoring the interim deal

01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:28.180
A senior Iranian source reports

01:51:28.180 --> 01:51:30.200
That there has been absolutely no progress

01:51:30.200 --> 01:51:31.820
In discussions with the US

01:51:31.820 --> 01:51:33.180
Which is really what I'll show you

01:51:33.180 --> 01:51:35.680
Is the same back channel mediator

01:51:35.680 --> 01:51:36.540
That's always there

01:51:36.540 --> 01:51:38.400
They're not even talking to them right now

01:51:38.400 --> 01:51:39.540
As far as I can tell

01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:42.140
And this is from the Reuters

01:51:42.140 --> 01:51:44.480
And this is what Iran was saying a couple of days before that

01:51:44.480 --> 01:51:47.180
The US must return to the interim deal

01:51:47.760 --> 01:51:49.240
No ceasefire extension talks

01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:51.260
Basically what Trump was hoping for

01:51:51.260 --> 01:51:52.140
To stretch this out

01:51:52.140 --> 01:51:54.100
They're saying you go back to the memorandum

01:51:54.100 --> 01:51:55.460
Like they were doing at the JCPOA

01:51:55.460 --> 01:51:56.420
Or no deal

01:51:56.420 --> 01:51:58.160
And they held to the other one too guys

01:51:58.980 --> 01:52:00.280
It's kind of crazy how people

01:52:00.280 --> 01:52:02.180
Can't see the historical continuation here

01:52:02.180 --> 01:52:04.000
So clearly I think it's obvious

01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:06.220
At the very least believe they can

01:52:06.220 --> 01:52:06.780
Last this out

01:52:07.220 --> 01:52:09.200
I think if you're paying attention you know that they can

01:52:09.200 --> 01:52:11.460
The likelihood is obvious

01:52:11.460 --> 01:52:13.820
I'm not going to say I know what's going on behind there

01:52:13.820 --> 01:52:15.860
But what we've already seen shows you

01:52:15.860 --> 01:52:17.380
That it's pretty clear that they have planned for this

01:52:17.380 --> 01:52:18.520
As they told us before

01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:20.420
As Robert was writing about

01:52:21.660 --> 01:52:23.200
It's pretty clear if you've been paying attention

01:52:23.200 --> 01:52:24.660
This was always what was going to happen

01:52:25.200 --> 01:52:27.160
Saved for some kind of extreme action

01:52:27.160 --> 01:52:29.260
Which is certainly still possible

01:52:29.260 --> 01:52:30.040
Hopefully not

01:52:31.040 --> 01:52:33.120
Al Jazeera points out as of today

01:52:33.120 --> 01:52:35.620
Iran has not decided whether to resume

01:52:35.620 --> 01:52:37.420
Talks with the US which is quite a bit different

01:52:37.420 --> 01:52:39.120
Than saying we're not going to right

01:52:40.080 --> 01:52:41.120
Our gachi

01:52:41.120 --> 01:52:43.400
Foreign minister says that according to Iranian media

01:52:43.400 --> 01:52:45.020
Adding that cutter

01:52:45.020 --> 01:52:47.280
And Pakistan are exchanging messages with Iran

01:52:47.280 --> 01:52:49.360
As mediators but this does not amount to

01:52:49.360 --> 01:52:51.380
Negotiation so basically simply saying

01:52:51.380 --> 01:52:53.560
We're going to as I've been telling you since April

01:52:54.260 --> 01:52:55.360
We're not talking to you

01:52:55.360 --> 01:52:57.440
We will take your messages and if it's in our

01:52:57.440 --> 01:52:59.660
Interest we'll respond but we're not talking to you

01:52:59.660 --> 01:53:01.300
So that's still the same framing

01:53:02.240 --> 01:53:03.460
So what happens is

01:53:03.460 --> 01:53:04.980
Trump pretends that he's dealing

01:53:04.980 --> 01:53:06.800
Because he's I guess

01:53:07.220 --> 01:53:09.420
Whitcoff is telling them they're sending notes or whatever is ultimately happening

01:53:09.420 --> 01:53:10.880
And then lying to you about it

01:53:10.880 --> 01:53:12.560
I don't see how this could be going the other way

01:53:12.560 --> 01:53:15.240
Or he's being lied to and is too afraid to admit that

01:53:15.240 --> 01:53:16.740
I don't know maybe a mix of both

01:53:17.260 --> 01:53:19.440
At the end of the day I bet you this continues

01:53:19.440 --> 01:53:21.440
They continue to make a deal with Oman

01:53:21.440 --> 01:53:23.280
And then Trump and Israel

01:53:23.280 --> 01:53:25.540
Continue to be framed as the ones holding up

01:53:25.540 --> 01:53:26.660
What everybody wants

01:53:27.480 --> 01:53:29.260
And outside of weird

01:53:30.300 --> 01:53:30.780
Like

01:53:31.620 --> 01:53:34.200
Bombing kinetic action that shifts the conversation

01:53:34.200 --> 01:53:35.600
I don't know what will change

01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:38.460
And I mean like extreme levels which I'm hoping doesn't happen

01:53:38.460 --> 01:53:40.160
Because we know where this could go

01:53:41.020 --> 01:53:43.260
And I think honestly that seems to be the only

01:53:43.260 --> 01:53:45.720
Different thing that could change the direction of this

01:53:45.720 --> 01:53:47.820
Unless you know or let's be

01:53:47.820 --> 01:53:49.980
You know think outside of the box

01:53:49.980 --> 01:53:51.900
But just different is you know maybe we see

01:53:51.900 --> 01:53:54.020
Some kind of radical operation for assassinations

01:53:54.400 --> 01:53:55.940
That wipes everybody out I mean that's what

01:53:55.940 --> 01:53:58.080
They've already tried to do so what I think

01:53:58.080 --> 01:53:59.900
Is likely is something like that where they

01:53:59.900 --> 01:54:01.820
Give themselves a moment to

01:54:01.820 --> 01:54:03.800
Execute something that could change the direction

01:54:03.800 --> 01:54:05.560
Because right now they've lost

01:54:06.460 --> 01:54:07.640
Going through the same motions

01:54:07.640 --> 01:54:09.820
Doesn't seem to change anything so it seems

01:54:09.820 --> 01:54:11.800
Like a wait and see kind of thing and that's what

01:54:11.800 --> 01:54:13.640
Trump is Iran rather

01:54:13.640 --> 01:54:15.360
Is hoping for

01:54:15.360 --> 01:54:17.520
Because it seems they think at the very least

01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:18.920
I think they're right that Trump

01:54:18.920 --> 01:54:20.460
Doesn't have all the time in the world

01:54:20.460 --> 01:54:22.160
And Iran can last this out

01:54:22.640 --> 01:54:24.440
On top of that you have this weird thing

01:54:24.440 --> 01:54:26.680
Where today Bloomberg reporting

01:54:26.680 --> 01:54:28.240
U.S. is pressing its allies

01:54:28.240 --> 01:54:30.340
On ideological loyalty

01:54:31.300 --> 01:54:32.140
NATO really

01:54:32.140 --> 01:54:35.080
Ahead of what their operations in general

01:54:35.080 --> 01:54:36.380
But the simple point is

01:54:36.960 --> 01:54:38.760
Skip over quickly is that they're saying

01:54:39.240 --> 01:54:41.400
Has the country shown alignment with the U.S. approach

01:54:42.440 --> 01:54:43.700
Strong, clear, quiet

01:54:44.280 --> 01:54:46.220
Very weird like basically saying

01:54:46.220 --> 01:54:47.820
Do you even support of U.S. policy

01:54:47.820 --> 01:54:49.640
And if not then we're I mean

01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:51.520
Basically the bottom line is NATO

01:54:51.520 --> 01:54:53.820
Was originally built on the idea that it was about

01:54:53.820 --> 01:54:55.580
Not you know do you agree with everything

01:54:55.580 --> 01:54:57.500
You know ostensibly anyway

01:54:58.380 --> 01:54:59.840
But more so about the

01:54:59.840 --> 01:55:01.720
You know post world order kind of thing

01:55:01.720 --> 01:55:03.680
That we're now going to fight for freedom and not

01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:06.060
You know control or never was really the truth

01:55:06.060 --> 01:55:08.020
I argue was you know largely framing

01:55:08.020 --> 01:55:09.680
But it still carries some different changes

01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:11.920
But the point is that now it's about

01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:14.040
You know you tell us that you're on our side

01:55:14.040 --> 01:55:15.240
Or we're going to no longer

01:55:15.700 --> 01:55:18.160
Use this to help you or we're going to push back on your agendas

01:55:18.160 --> 01:55:19.940
Or Trump will sue you for other random

01:55:19.940 --> 01:55:21.820
Inane things like it's what it feels like

01:55:21.820 --> 01:55:24.680
At the end of the day demanding loyalty pledges

01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:25.960
From your other I mean it's

01:55:25.960 --> 01:55:27.760
It's a strange thing it shows you weakness

01:55:27.760 --> 01:55:29.820
And it shows you an effort to drive

01:55:29.820 --> 01:55:31.920
People and coerce people into your side

01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:33.880
How do you not see that as them being aware

01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:35.540
That they're not in control and that they're losing

01:55:36.700 --> 01:55:37.600
Trump to Iran

01:55:37.600 --> 01:55:39.880
And here's how it gets just ridiculous to wrap this up

01:55:39.880 --> 01:55:42.100
Trump says you must pay for the deaths

01:55:42.100 --> 01:55:44.420
And destruction that took place in Lebanon

01:55:45.440 --> 01:55:45.920
Syria

01:55:46.560 --> 01:55:47.680
Yemen and Gaza

01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:50.020
Right because so obviously it's

01:55:50.020 --> 01:55:52.280
Iran destroying these places right

01:55:52.280 --> 01:55:54.620
I mean you see this is why you just get

01:55:54.620 --> 01:55:56.340
They just they're off the rails guys

01:55:56.860 --> 01:55:58.740
Nobody in the world outside of people

01:55:58.740 --> 01:56:00.340
That would agree with whatever you say next

01:56:00.340 --> 01:56:02.140
No matter what it is are going to agree

01:56:02.140 --> 01:56:04.260
That Iran is destroying Lebanon

01:56:04.260 --> 01:56:05.740
Look even if you want to pretend that

01:56:05.740 --> 01:56:07.220
Hezbollah is Iran which it's not

01:56:07.820 --> 01:56:09.540
Where is Hezbollah destroying Lebanon

01:56:09.540 --> 01:56:11.360
Where is Iran

01:56:11.360 --> 01:56:13.220
Even in any case destroying Syria

01:56:13.220 --> 01:56:15.260
Where is Iran anywhere destroying

01:56:15.260 --> 01:56:17.460
Yemen who the Yonsarala movement

01:56:17.460 --> 01:56:19.240
The yet the what they call the Houthis

01:56:19.240 --> 01:56:21.160
Is not in any way destroying Yemen

01:56:21.900 --> 01:56:22.380
Gaza

01:56:22.380 --> 01:56:24.700
I mean what are we even talking about at this point

01:56:24.700 --> 01:56:27.500
And so clearly Trump is just desperately grasping

01:56:27.500 --> 01:56:28.640
At something to keep this going

01:56:28.640 --> 01:56:30.760
They have to pay like I think this is about trying

01:56:30.760 --> 01:56:32.660
To extend the conversation to get them to respond

01:56:32.660 --> 01:56:34.620
To them debate about whether they're not taking

01:56:34.620 --> 01:56:36.820
The bait I think that's that's embarrassing

01:56:36.820 --> 01:56:38.600
To me and it's clear that what they're

01:56:38.600 --> 01:56:40.800
Doing is destroying all of these places for their benefit

01:56:40.800 --> 01:56:42.380
And then asking them

01:56:42.380 --> 01:56:43.860
To be responsible for it

01:56:45.160 --> 01:56:46.560
It's it's revolting

01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:48.520
To me truly so

01:56:48.520 --> 01:56:50.420
Trump wants you to believe I'm sure I just close

01:56:50.420 --> 01:56:52.720
Two things on accident yeah good

01:56:52.720 --> 01:56:54.480
Trump now wants you to believe of course

01:56:54.480 --> 01:56:56.640
It's on the 10th by the way but realize where we are

01:56:56.640 --> 01:56:58.440
Right now that they control

01:56:58.440 --> 01:57:00.540
The straight 100% I mean I've

01:57:00.540 --> 01:57:02.320
At least seen him say this like 15 times

01:57:02.320 --> 01:57:04.340
And not a once have they

01:57:04.340 --> 01:57:05.380
Actually controlled the straight

01:57:05.380 --> 01:57:06.800
Talk about desperate

01:57:10.340 --> 01:57:11.840
Well it's open now

01:57:11.840 --> 01:57:13.860
We're taking a lot of shit it's open now look

01:57:13.860 --> 01:57:15.940
The only one that has control

01:57:15.940 --> 01:57:18.440
Of who moves right now is the United States

01:57:18.440 --> 01:57:20.500
Navy now maybe someone's telling

01:57:20.500 --> 01:57:22.020
In that that's not the truth

01:57:22.020 --> 01:57:23.980
I don't care what you're looking at you know

01:57:23.980 --> 01:57:25.900
That's not the truth guys you can argue

01:57:25.900 --> 01:57:27.460
That you're controlling some level of

01:57:28.020 --> 01:57:29.500
Access to Iran's ports

01:57:29.500 --> 01:57:31.520
But you're not controlling the straight you're just

01:57:31.520 --> 01:57:33.260
Not because it's clear that

01:57:33.260 --> 01:57:35.420
If that was the case this would be over didn't

01:57:35.420 --> 01:57:37.260
You just say that's what you wanted to end the war

01:57:38.160 --> 01:57:39.340
So it's just lazy

01:57:39.340 --> 01:57:41.480
Guys it's just embarrassing and I don't get

01:57:41.480 --> 01:57:43.460
Why he keeps going through the cycle I've said it every

01:57:43.460 --> 01:57:45.680
Time we have a blockade that's been infallible

01:57:46.320 --> 01:57:47.680
Nope other than the fact

01:57:47.680 --> 01:57:49.580
That it's been fouled or fallible

01:57:49.580 --> 01:57:51.600
Or you've failed or they've not stopped

01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:53.620
Every ship that's

01:57:53.620 --> 01:57:55.480
Ridiculous I mean guys you can literally prove

01:57:55.480 --> 01:57:57.340
That ships have gotten past China made a whole point

01:57:57.340 --> 01:57:59.120
About how many of them now at the end of the day

01:57:59.120 --> 01:58:01.080
On top of that it's not even a complete

01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:02.620
We've gone through all this

01:58:03.460 --> 01:58:04.920
This is just him being desperate

01:58:04.920 --> 01:58:07.300
It's a steel wall and we let

01:58:07.300 --> 01:58:09.220
People in that we want to let in and those

01:58:09.220 --> 01:58:11.240
People come in and they've been

01:58:11.240 --> 01:58:13.080
Coming in and they're going out and they

01:58:13.080 --> 01:58:15.100
We've already gotten word that they some of them

01:58:15.100 --> 01:58:17.180
Have been paying in some way or another

01:58:17.180 --> 01:58:19.000
Which makes sense because they've been trying to initiate

01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:21.240
The same thing but see when you look at it

01:58:21.240 --> 01:58:22.660
From their angle it's just extortion

01:58:23.140 --> 01:58:25.140
There's no way around it guys Iran is trying

01:58:25.140 --> 01:58:26.660
To manage this the passageway

01:58:26.660 --> 01:58:29.060
As some sort of like like the rest of them

01:58:29.060 --> 01:58:30.960
Now you can argue they're doing it for their benefit that's clear

01:58:31.440 --> 01:58:33.180
But it is a passageway and like

01:58:33.180 --> 01:58:35.160
All of the rest of them that's not in national waters

01:58:35.160 --> 01:58:37.220
They have the right to do that and so it is every

01:58:37.220 --> 01:58:39.180
Other one of them what they're doing is simply

01:58:39.180 --> 01:58:41.220
Setting up a block before that and going

01:58:41.220 --> 01:58:43.320
Pay us first it's just insane

01:58:43.320 --> 01:58:44.880
Like there's just no way an honest person

01:58:44.880 --> 01:58:46.720
Can not see this as a

01:58:46.720 --> 01:58:48.520
Like almost like a tantrum of a child

01:58:50.660 --> 01:58:53.180
So it's actually open now we do not

01:58:53.180 --> 01:58:55.160
Let them go into Iran they're not

01:58:55.680 --> 01:58:57.720
Admitted into the straight to go to Iran

01:58:57.720 --> 01:58:59.800
But it's open for others

01:59:00.540 --> 01:59:00.980
Now

01:59:00.980 --> 01:59:03.340
Okay so then you go past them

01:59:03.340 --> 01:59:05.140
And then Iran won't let you go because that's what keeps

01:59:05.140 --> 01:59:06.000
That so it's not open

01:59:06.940 --> 01:59:09.060
I don't he must know that

01:59:09.800 --> 01:59:11.380
So I mean as an individual

01:59:11.380 --> 01:59:12.960
You think this guy's on your side

01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:14.940
Understand that this guy is talking

01:59:14.940 --> 01:59:17.320
Right to you and he knows as a matter

01:59:17.320 --> 01:59:18.760
Of fact that he's lying to you

01:59:18.760 --> 01:59:20.620
And that's I mean unless he's just

01:59:20.620 --> 01:59:22.620
So incredibly controlled

01:59:22.620 --> 01:59:24.700
And and corralled that he has

01:59:24.700 --> 01:59:26.480
No idea what's going on outside of what

01:59:26.480 --> 01:59:28.080
Whitcoff shows him which I just would

01:59:28.620 --> 01:59:30.640
I guess I would honestly

01:59:30.640 --> 01:59:32.620
Not think is that crazy I just don't

01:59:32.620 --> 01:59:34.660
Believe that's the case he knows he's lying to you

01:59:34.660 --> 01:59:36.320
And I just think that's in worth noting how insulting

01:59:36.320 --> 01:59:38.160
That would be a little bit

01:59:39.240 --> 01:59:40.620
Complex because they will

01:59:40.620 --> 01:59:42.520
On occasion drop a mine

01:59:42.520 --> 01:59:44.140
We find the minds you know we've

01:59:44.140 --> 01:59:46.380
Oh yeah show me one don't you love how he

01:59:46.380 --> 01:59:48.400
Just evolves the story I thought you were stopping

01:59:48.400 --> 01:59:50.220
Them I thought you were out of the minds but wait a minute

01:59:50.220 --> 01:59:51.920
There's been ships there's times where it's open

01:59:52.440 --> 01:59:54.620
They're lying to you guys there's really no way around

01:59:54.620 --> 01:59:56.340
That minds exist yes

01:59:56.340 --> 01:59:58.220
Is Ron usually before as I understand yes

01:59:58.220 --> 02:00:00.320
Did they happen this time we must

02:00:00.320 --> 02:00:02.340
Understand that didn't happen the same

02:00:02.340 --> 02:00:04.080
Way Iran didn't shut the straight down because

02:00:04.080 --> 02:00:06.420
That wasn't their objective he

02:00:06.420 --> 02:00:08.500
Needed that because Israel promised

02:00:08.500 --> 02:00:10.380
Him it would happen in my opinion didn't

02:00:10.380 --> 02:00:11.920
Happen and they're still failing

02:00:11.920 --> 02:00:14.480
Mine swept the entire straight

02:00:14.480 --> 02:00:16.420
As you probably maybe heard maybe

02:00:16.420 --> 02:00:18.380
It in here but but

02:00:19.240 --> 02:00:20.580
We control the entire

02:00:20.580 --> 02:00:22.220
Straight that you can't get through because Iran's blocking

02:00:22.220 --> 02:00:23.380
It yeah sure lines up

02:00:24.600 --> 02:00:25.940
Straight 100%

02:00:25.940 --> 02:00:26.660
Now

02:00:28.500 --> 02:00:30.400
Isis 100% about 17

02:00:30.400 --> 02:00:32.600
Times you know or like he's won the war

02:00:32.600 --> 02:00:34.320
About 57 times because it's

02:00:34.320 --> 02:00:35.860
100% guys no problem

02:00:36.720 --> 02:00:37.920
Well that's just stupid

02:00:37.920 --> 02:00:40.200
Oh in case you didn't know straight is closed

02:00:40.200 --> 02:00:42.400
Like literally the day he said this was

02:00:42.400 --> 02:00:44.520
The same thing but doesn't matter right

02:00:44.520 --> 02:00:46.520
Now here's Trump

02:00:46.520 --> 02:00:48.600
Who I mean again speaking to the people

02:00:48.600 --> 02:00:50.360
That still somehow find a way to support him

02:00:50.360 --> 02:00:52.740
Here he is speaking to military personnel

02:00:53.460 --> 02:00:54.780
And I just think this is so

02:00:55.260 --> 02:00:56.660
Patronizing and I know he knows

02:00:56.660 --> 02:00:57.500
He's lying guys

02:00:59.140 --> 02:01:00.620
For like right look just understand

02:01:00.620 --> 02:01:02.360
The gas prices have gone more than double

02:01:02.360 --> 02:01:03.800
Since when this started that's

02:01:04.360 --> 02:01:06.300
Anybody can look for themselves and here's

02:01:06.300 --> 02:01:08.540
What he says about a thing that didn't

02:01:08.540 --> 02:01:10.260
Actually happen about a thing that Iran

02:01:10.260 --> 02:01:12.240
Wasn't actually doing and again even

02:01:12.240 --> 02:01:13.400
Tulsi Gabbard told you that

02:01:16.940 --> 02:01:18.860
So I just say this

02:01:20.220 --> 02:01:21.960
So one more point actually

02:01:21.960 --> 02:01:24.120
Doesn't it's sad how he needs to make

02:01:24.120 --> 02:01:26.320
This point in every single public appearance

02:01:26.320 --> 02:01:28.080
It just shows you how desperate he is

02:01:28.080 --> 02:01:30.380
To control the narrative that he has already lost

02:01:30.380 --> 02:01:32.420
Does anybody actually think it's about

02:01:32.420 --> 02:01:34.180
Nuclear war anymore about about nuclear

02:01:34.180 --> 02:01:35.600
Weapons and Iran's control

02:01:36.040 --> 02:01:38.420
I mean he himself told you that that was destroyed

02:01:38.420 --> 02:01:40.540
So it's just this game of stupidity

02:01:41.100 --> 02:01:42.760
But he needs to say it because that's

02:01:42.760 --> 02:01:44.460
The only thing he has to hold on to

02:01:45.260 --> 02:01:46.660
For you to pay a tiny

02:01:46.660 --> 02:01:48.780
A little bit more tiny bit for your gasoline

02:01:48.780 --> 02:01:50.480
More than double you know just remember

02:01:50.480 --> 02:01:52.720
You're doing it so that a very evil

02:01:52.720 --> 02:01:54.500
Country cannot have a country really

02:01:54.500 --> 02:01:56.680
It's the number one state sponsor

02:01:56.680 --> 02:01:58.600
Of terror except not though because

02:01:58.600 --> 02:02:00.540
ISIS attacks them and that's the

02:02:00.540 --> 02:02:02.380
Number one you tell us all the time and the fact that you

02:02:02.380 --> 02:02:04.320
Literally just called them good people that they're good

02:02:04.320 --> 02:02:06.240
They're not bad you know it's a new regime now because

02:02:06.240 --> 02:02:08.020
We changed it and they're good guys they want to work with us

02:02:08.020 --> 02:02:10.200
They're begging for a deal we're going to make a deal with their great people

02:02:10.200 --> 02:02:12.080
But now they're terrorists again because it works

02:02:12.080 --> 02:02:14.160
For this moment right this this guy

02:02:14.160 --> 02:02:15.900
Doesn't think we know what he said

02:02:15.900 --> 02:02:18.140
Two seconds ago or he's

02:02:18.140 --> 02:02:19.760
Just that desperate I mean there's only

02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:21.820
I make the same framing every time I don't know

02:02:21.820 --> 02:02:23.260
How people don't see that

02:02:24.140 --> 02:02:25.020
In the world

02:02:26.300 --> 02:02:28.060
A country really it's the number

02:02:28.060 --> 02:02:30.140
One state sponsor of terror

02:02:30.140 --> 02:02:32.180
In the world we don't want to have

02:02:32.180 --> 02:02:34.000
Them have a nuclear weapon so remember

02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:36.120
That when you have to pay a little

02:02:36.120 --> 02:02:37.440
Bit more you're at four dollars

02:02:37.440 --> 02:02:39.760
You realize everybody in the room knows that's not true right

02:02:39.760 --> 02:02:42.100
They all have gas get cars they get gas

02:02:42.100 --> 02:02:44.140
They're not stupid they all know

02:02:44.140 --> 02:02:46.180
That's not true and yet he has the nerve

02:02:46.180 --> 02:02:48.120
To stand there and tell them to their

02:02:48.120 --> 02:02:50.180
Faces that it's okay to pay a little bit

02:02:50.180 --> 02:02:51.720
More when nobody agrees with that

02:02:51.720 --> 02:02:54.240
To stop this from happening that we don't

02:02:54.240 --> 02:02:56.020
I mean arguably I think most people paying attention

02:02:56.020 --> 02:02:57.300
No that's not the reality

02:02:57.960 --> 02:02:59.940
But even if you did realize that

02:02:59.940 --> 02:03:01.920
One remember I rather think that

02:03:03.220 --> 02:03:04.500
Just like every other country

02:03:04.500 --> 02:03:05.840
Iran has a right to those programs

02:03:05.840 --> 02:03:07.900
And the idea of what he's saying is that we

02:03:07.900 --> 02:03:10.260
Have to pay more gas to stop

02:03:10.260 --> 02:03:11.800
The thing that they have a legal right to do

02:03:11.800 --> 02:03:13.520
That you don't want them to do but they're not doing anyway

02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:16.480
I mean how do you even rationalize that in the first place

02:03:16.480 --> 02:03:17.920
Didn't you tell us this wasn't going to happen

02:03:17.920 --> 02:03:20.060
Didn't you promise the war wasn't going to go into pass

02:03:20.060 --> 02:03:22.580
I mean you go through this cycle and it's just

02:03:23.620 --> 02:03:24.420
Infuriating or you

02:03:24.420 --> 02:03:26.320
Can lie to yourself and pretend like he's telling the truth

02:03:26.320 --> 02:03:27.820
That's what I think most people will end up doing

02:03:28.540 --> 02:03:30.040
Like choosing between those two things

02:03:30.040 --> 02:03:31.360
But I think you know where people are leaning

02:03:31.360 --> 02:03:33.060
It's okay I mean it's

02:03:33.060 --> 02:03:35.440
I'm not, I'll never apologize

02:03:35.440 --> 02:03:36.440
I did the right thing

02:03:37.500 --> 02:03:38.760
You'll never apologize

02:03:38.760 --> 02:03:40.100
You've heard that before haven't you

02:03:40.100 --> 02:03:42.180
I'll never apologize for the United States

02:03:42.180 --> 02:03:43.680
You know after that terrorist attack on the plane

02:03:43.680 --> 02:03:45.740
Iran's funny how that comes back around

02:03:46.720 --> 02:03:47.760
This is who we are

02:03:47.760 --> 02:03:49.240
Or excuse me who they are

02:03:49.700 --> 02:03:51.140
Funny how I would even make that mistake

02:03:51.140 --> 02:03:53.560
I don't even see them as the same thing

02:03:53.560 --> 02:03:54.820
The government is not America

02:03:54.820 --> 02:03:55.860
Let's never forget that

02:03:55.860 --> 02:03:57.280
You are America

02:03:57.280 --> 02:03:58.960
The government works for you

02:03:58.960 --> 02:03:59.800
Or it's supposed to

02:04:00.460 --> 02:04:02.720
Long since it's not, has changed

02:04:02.720 --> 02:04:04.860
The reality has shifted if it was ever the case

02:04:04.860 --> 02:04:06.580
But realize guys that they, that's

02:04:06.580 --> 02:04:07.660
You know I mean

02:04:08.420 --> 02:04:10.020
They are so clearly

02:04:10.020 --> 02:04:12.740
Like as I've always said a lot recently even

02:04:12.740 --> 02:04:14.340
You have more in common right now

02:04:14.340 --> 02:04:15.840
With the people in Iran than you've ever had

02:04:15.840 --> 02:04:16.700
With people in Washington DC

02:04:18.120 --> 02:04:19.620
Even concluding all the different

02:04:19.620 --> 02:04:21.940
You know the difference of ideology

02:04:22.300 --> 02:04:24.200
Difference of I mean it's obvious

02:04:24.640 --> 02:04:25.640
Look at people in Syria

02:04:25.640 --> 02:04:26.700
Look at the people in the UK

02:04:26.700 --> 02:04:29.480
The average people you have so much more in common

02:04:29.480 --> 02:04:30.760
With them and the way they live their lives

02:04:30.760 --> 02:04:32.120
Than you do with anybody in the leadership

02:04:32.120 --> 02:04:33.860
And if you really take the time to look

02:04:33.860 --> 02:04:34.700
You'll find that out

02:04:36.240 --> 02:04:38.280
Now as a kind of a humorous point in this

02:04:38.280 --> 02:04:38.920
As you might have seen

02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:41.460
And I honestly now I'm going to get into this

02:04:41.460 --> 02:04:43.840
In the real depth of the way people try to frame it

02:04:43.840 --> 02:04:45.220
I just include that picture to be funny

02:04:45.920 --> 02:04:47.440
What it appears to happen is that Trump

02:04:47.440 --> 02:04:49.660
Kid in a catering with a right as catering

02:04:49.660 --> 02:04:51.380
Cart in secret Air Force One

02:04:51.380 --> 02:04:53.260
Swap to fend off Iran assassination

02:04:53.260 --> 02:04:55.500
Threat what it appears to have been is some sort

02:04:55.500 --> 02:04:57.520
Of secret swap where he was moved into

02:04:57.520 --> 02:04:59.600
A different catering type plane

02:04:59.600 --> 02:05:01.440
Or carrier in order

02:05:01.440 --> 02:05:03.360
To hide and so they thought he was on something

02:05:03.360 --> 02:05:05.640
Else. But to me that's

02:05:05.640 --> 02:05:07.400
Enough it's not like this is the joke

02:05:08.240 --> 02:05:09.220
Which I think is funny

02:05:10.420 --> 02:05:11.420
Because it makes me

02:05:11.420 --> 02:05:13.640
Makes fun of a person who thinks very highly of himself

02:05:13.640 --> 02:05:15.240
That deserves to be called out for what he's doing

02:05:15.240 --> 02:05:17.160
Trump in the podcast hiding a little

02:05:17.560 --> 02:05:19.420
Airplane cart hiding from Iran's bombs

02:05:19.420 --> 02:05:20.780
But the truth is more so that

02:05:20.780 --> 02:05:23.380
I think this probably happens more often than we realize

02:05:23.380 --> 02:05:25.280
Because they are trying to avoid

02:05:25.280 --> 02:05:26.060
What they think are

02:05:26.060 --> 02:05:28.860
They're literally murdering families all over the world

02:05:28.860 --> 02:05:30.280
And so maybe they think people hate them

02:05:30.280 --> 02:05:32.380
Crazy right? And so they try to

02:05:32.380 --> 02:05:33.860
Make sure they're not going to be attacked

02:05:33.860 --> 02:05:36.140
But what I think is more important than any of it

02:05:36.140 --> 02:05:38.320
It does show it's a little embarrassing for them

02:05:38.320 --> 02:05:39.740
I agree, but what I think is important

02:05:39.740 --> 02:05:42.440
And one other thing is that they also left the media

02:05:42.440 --> 02:05:44.440
On the plane that they thought might be

02:05:44.440 --> 02:05:46.600
Bombed. I think that's wildly relevant

02:05:46.600 --> 02:05:48.340
But the bigger part I think

02:05:48.340 --> 02:05:50.020
Is that it simply shows you that Trump

02:05:50.020 --> 02:05:52.400
As a president, the US government

02:05:52.400 --> 02:05:54.240
As an entity very clearly

02:05:54.240 --> 02:05:56.360
Thinks that Iran has the capabilities

02:05:56.360 --> 02:05:59.040
That they keep stressing they no longer have

02:05:59.040 --> 02:06:01.020
That's the main point for me here

02:06:01.020 --> 02:06:02.840
He was worried he was going to get attacked

02:06:02.840 --> 02:06:05.160
Which means they know Iran does not

02:06:05.160 --> 02:06:07.780
It's not just petered out of all of its munitions

02:06:07.780 --> 02:06:09.360
So they lie to you

02:06:09.360 --> 02:06:11.640
And that means you have to consider

02:06:11.640 --> 02:06:13.800
I mean, I would argue you should consider all the other things

02:06:13.800 --> 02:06:14.860
They're probably lying about

02:06:16.260 --> 02:06:17.840
And as Wyatt Reed wrote

02:06:17.840 --> 02:06:19.900
The CIA is blaming Israel for their

02:06:19.900 --> 02:06:20.640
Made-up threat

02:06:20.640 --> 02:06:23.840
That left Trump hiding inside of a catering truck

02:06:23.840 --> 02:06:26.020
The claim that Iran planned

02:06:26.020 --> 02:06:27.560
To blow up Trump's plane

02:06:27.560 --> 02:06:30.340
Was Israel derived, not US generated

02:06:30.340 --> 02:06:32.380
And viewed as low confidence

02:06:32.380 --> 02:06:33.420
That said the CIA

02:06:33.420 --> 02:06:35.980
As telling their colleagues at the Washington Post

02:06:35.980 --> 02:06:37.820
So Glenn Greenwald commented

02:06:37.820 --> 02:06:38.880
Said, so if I have this right

02:06:38.880 --> 02:06:40.900
The CIA itself understands

02:06:40.900 --> 02:06:42.320
And is saying that Israel

02:06:42.960 --> 02:06:44.640
Manufactures false intelligence

02:06:44.640 --> 02:06:46.000
See how it's relevant

02:06:46.000 --> 02:06:48.960
To make Trump fear non-existent threats

02:06:48.960 --> 02:06:49.900
From Iran

02:06:49.900 --> 02:06:52.960
So that he will continue to use American resources

02:06:52.960 --> 02:06:54.760
And sacrifice service members

02:06:54.760 --> 02:06:56.060
To fight their wars for them

02:06:56.640 --> 02:06:58.460
Correct, what I also argue

02:06:58.460 --> 02:07:00.560
So they're so reliant

02:07:00.560 --> 02:07:02.700
On these Israeli spyware tools and surveillance

02:07:02.700 --> 02:07:05.100
Which are a whole thing

02:07:05.100 --> 02:07:06.300
We've talked about including the companies

02:07:06.300 --> 02:07:08.600
That we just went through today, including Oracle and Palantir

02:07:08.600 --> 02:07:10.320
Which are clearly intertwined with Israel

02:07:10.320 --> 02:07:12.400
The point is that I think

02:07:12.400 --> 02:07:14.120
They rely so heavily on them

02:07:14.120 --> 02:07:15.880
That they, you know

02:07:15.880 --> 02:07:17.420
We already saw this with the war

02:07:17.420 --> 02:07:20.200
Israel tells him something and his own people

02:07:20.200 --> 02:07:22.420
Say that's not true and he goes with what Israel says

02:07:22.420 --> 02:07:24.360
Or he's not able to

02:07:24.360 --> 02:07:25.760
Say no, either way

02:07:25.760 --> 02:07:27.900
Doesn't that seem relevant to what we just talked about

02:07:28.480 --> 02:07:30.240
And that's why this is just funny to think about

02:07:31.540 --> 02:07:32.320
Because you know

02:07:32.320 --> 02:07:33.680
They think so highly of themselves

02:07:35.720 --> 02:07:36.080
Now

02:07:36.080 --> 02:07:37.320
Last few clips to end with

02:07:37.320 --> 02:07:39.840
You might have heard the kind of ongoing story

02:07:39.840 --> 02:07:40.280
About the

02:07:41.400 --> 02:07:43.000
USS Abraham, right?

02:07:45.180 --> 02:07:45.860
Oh, the Lincoln

02:07:45.860 --> 02:07:47.600
Excuse me, the point is that there's one of their

02:07:48.380 --> 02:07:49.280
Carriers, I mean

02:07:49.760 --> 02:07:50.880
They're lying about it

02:07:51.300 --> 02:07:53.200
But there's people speaking out from these ships

02:07:53.200 --> 02:07:55.120
There's been all kinds of crazy stories that I couldn't confirm

02:07:55.120 --> 02:07:57.240
But I'm starting to think some of them are probably real

02:07:57.900 --> 02:07:58.980
But I'm going to leave it off today

02:07:58.980 --> 02:08:00.500
Only because I can't confirm, you know

02:08:00.500 --> 02:08:02.540
Like deaths or whether jumping

02:08:02.540 --> 02:08:04.240
I mean there's all kinds of stuff, but at the end of the day

02:08:04.240 --> 02:08:06.480
It's been pretty clearly shown that they are out

02:08:06.480 --> 02:08:08.220
Way longer than they're supposed to be

02:08:08.220 --> 02:08:10.100
People aren't getting the food they need

02:08:10.100 --> 02:08:12.580
And people are getting real, I mean these are people that were deployed

02:08:12.580 --> 02:08:14.340
In many cases under false pretenses

02:08:14.340 --> 02:08:16.380
We started with this saying they weren't going

02:08:16.380 --> 02:08:18.020
For this purpose, right?

02:08:18.100 --> 02:08:20.380
And you have a lot of military who do not want to be

02:08:20.380 --> 02:08:21.100
A part of this, guys

02:08:21.920 --> 02:08:24.580
So here's what he says when asked about that very conversation

02:08:26.660 --> 02:08:28.220
What else do I have to say

02:08:33.630 --> 02:08:35.110
Well, no, that ship is moving

02:08:35.110 --> 02:08:35.690
No, they're not

02:08:36.170 --> 02:08:37.650
Okay, so yes they are

02:08:37.650 --> 02:08:40.810
And there's families and service people that have been saying

02:08:40.810 --> 02:08:42.350
We're concerned about this

02:08:42.350 --> 02:08:44.990
And so his answer when said there are families that are concerned

02:08:44.990 --> 02:08:46.010
About what's going on, no they're not

02:08:47.250 --> 02:08:48.410
Okay, they are

02:08:48.410 --> 02:08:49.230
But that's fine

02:08:50.290 --> 02:08:52.090
That ship is moving, no they're not

02:08:52.090 --> 02:08:54.330
That ship is moving right now

02:08:54.330 --> 02:08:56.610
Or very shortly and it's being replaced

02:08:56.610 --> 02:08:58.370
With another very similar ship

02:08:58.370 --> 02:09:00.130
Has the deployment gone on too long?

02:09:00.550 --> 02:09:01.650
No, no, no

02:09:01.650 --> 02:09:03.510
Has the deployment gone on too long?

02:09:03.910 --> 02:09:05.470
Nearly long enough, thank you

02:09:05.470 --> 02:09:07.910
Yeah, he loves to do that, not long enough

02:09:07.910 --> 02:09:09.590
Because I'm that, I'm tough

02:09:09.590 --> 02:09:12.250
And I'll push back even when it makes me look stupid

02:09:12.250 --> 02:09:13.490
You know, he does

02:09:13.490 --> 02:09:16.590
You don't yell the thing that you're not supposed to say

02:09:16.590 --> 02:09:18.290
Just to make a point when that thing

02:09:18.290 --> 02:09:19.590
Will make you lose

02:09:19.590 --> 02:09:21.850
Make you look stupid

02:09:22.270 --> 02:09:23.190
counters your agenda

02:09:23.190 --> 02:09:24.610
That just makes you a child

02:09:24.610 --> 02:09:27.110
You know what I mean? There are times when you do

02:09:27.110 --> 02:09:28.310
To make a point about

02:09:28.310 --> 02:09:30.870
I agree with this and I'm going to make the point

02:09:30.870 --> 02:09:32.370
Even though you tell me it's wrong

02:09:33.090 --> 02:09:34.410
We've talked about things like that

02:09:34.410 --> 02:09:36.850
But in this case, what do you mean not long enough

02:09:36.850 --> 02:09:38.950
Nobody wants that, not people you support

02:09:38.950 --> 02:09:41.010
The only people that want this to go longer

02:09:41.010 --> 02:09:42.750
Than it already has are Israel

02:09:42.750 --> 02:09:44.110
The intelligence apparatus

02:09:44.470 --> 02:09:46.810
Not anybody who supports this person

02:09:46.810 --> 02:09:48.450
Who has put him, or you know

02:09:48.450 --> 02:09:50.270
I shouldn't even, you know I don't think that

02:09:50.270 --> 02:09:52.610
But the argument of how he got put

02:09:52.610 --> 02:09:54.470
The president in the first place that people support him

02:09:54.470 --> 02:09:56.050
Not long enough

02:09:56.050 --> 02:09:58.530
So you win a minor point over this

02:09:59.150 --> 02:10:01.070
Reporter who stuck it to the question

02:10:01.070 --> 02:10:03.050
And that's how short-sighted you are

02:10:03.050 --> 02:10:04.950
To yell that this hasn't gone long enough

02:10:04.950 --> 02:10:07.170
When you have military watching this

02:10:07.170 --> 02:10:09.090
Who are struggling on that ship

02:10:09.090 --> 02:10:10.930
I mean, you have to realize guys

02:10:10.930 --> 02:10:12.410
This guy doesn't care about anything

02:10:12.410 --> 02:10:13.590
Other than his petty moments

02:10:13.590 --> 02:10:16.290
Or he's just that short-sighted or

02:10:16.290 --> 02:10:18.350
Is that senile or whatever else you want to talk about

02:10:18.350 --> 02:10:19.890
You have to acknowledge that

02:10:19.890 --> 02:10:22.090
Is this man fighting for America first

02:10:22.090 --> 02:10:23.630
Or the people on that aircraft carrier

02:10:23.630 --> 02:10:25.470
I think we know that's not the case

02:10:25.470 --> 02:10:27.190
Or at least, I would argue that's clear

02:10:27.190 --> 02:10:28.090
That is my opinion

02:10:28.090 --> 02:10:30.570
Maybe he's got some grand plan that we don't see

02:10:30.570 --> 02:10:32.290
Like I always say, it's always possible

02:10:32.810 --> 02:10:34.170
Personally, I just think it's obvious

02:10:36.610 --> 02:10:37.510
Last clip here

02:10:38.110 --> 02:10:39.730
Or is it, yeah, one last clip

02:10:39.730 --> 02:10:41.970
This is just a similar time

02:10:43.050 --> 02:10:45.250
This is him talking about how good we're doing

02:10:46.010 --> 02:10:46.410
Financially

02:10:46.870 --> 02:10:48.330
And I made this point a lot

02:10:48.330 --> 02:10:50.450
That this is what he actually frames

02:10:50.450 --> 02:10:51.750
Like when he's saying we're doing great

02:10:52.470 --> 02:10:53.070
Everything's up

02:10:53.070 --> 02:10:55.570
And you know, the 401Ks

02:10:55.570 --> 02:10:57.610
And really what he's pointing to

02:10:57.610 --> 02:10:59.670
Is the inner circle of the oligarchy

02:10:59.670 --> 02:11:01.330
Or just, you know, the elitists

02:11:01.890 --> 02:11:04.730
The upper echelon, the people that see themselves as elitists

02:11:05.190 --> 02:11:07.130
Not elite, but elitists

02:11:07.130 --> 02:11:08.210
They believe they're better than you

02:11:08.210 --> 02:11:08.690
But they're not

02:11:09.690 --> 02:11:12.370
The point is that he has always framed it like this

02:11:12.370 --> 02:11:13.650
And just not said it this way

02:11:13.650 --> 02:11:14.850
And I think that's been clear

02:11:14.850 --> 02:11:16.690
Because the average person is suffering

02:11:16.690 --> 02:11:19.570
The average person is paying more for everything in their life

02:11:19.570 --> 02:11:21.050
But you know who isn't suffering?

02:11:21.830 --> 02:11:22.130
Wall Street

02:11:22.130 --> 02:11:22.870
Yeah, boy

02:11:22.870 --> 02:11:23.930
Go ahead

02:11:23.930 --> 02:11:25.290
Go ahead, anybody?

02:11:30.860 --> 02:11:32.480
I have a lot of things that are happening

02:11:32.480 --> 02:11:33.640
A lot of good things

02:11:33.640 --> 02:11:35.340
The economy is doing unbelievably

02:11:35.340 --> 02:11:37.660
From the standpoint of Wall Street

02:11:37.660 --> 02:11:39.540
We just set another record, as you know

02:11:39.940 --> 02:11:40.620
Okay, great

02:11:41.060 --> 02:11:43.160
Okay, well, is that what you think is important, guys?

02:11:43.500 --> 02:11:44.520
Is it important to you

02:11:44.520 --> 02:11:46.140
That Wall Street is making tons of money?

02:11:46.320 --> 02:11:48.020
Does that translate in any meaningful way

02:11:48.020 --> 02:11:49.120
Into your average life?

02:11:49.400 --> 02:11:50.560
I don't mean average in that sense

02:11:50.560 --> 02:11:52.660
But the normal life of average people

02:11:53.760 --> 02:11:54.920
No, it does not

02:11:54.920 --> 02:11:56.880
And in fact, that's the point I make all the time

02:11:56.880 --> 02:11:57.880
About 401Ks

02:11:58.480 --> 02:11:59.780
There's plenty of people that have them

02:11:59.780 --> 02:12:01.080
But if you look at the statistics

02:12:01.080 --> 02:12:03.780
The average people, the vast majority of Americans

02:12:05.360 --> 02:12:06.920
Don't even have a...

02:12:06.920 --> 02:12:08.200
They're living paycheck to paycheck

02:12:08.840 --> 02:12:10.920
The idea that they have 401Ks

02:12:10.920 --> 02:12:12.280
Or savings plans or retirements

02:12:12.280 --> 02:12:14.020
Or care about the NASDAQ

02:12:14.020 --> 02:12:14.900
Any of these things

02:12:14.900 --> 02:12:16.800
The Dow is insane

02:12:16.800 --> 02:12:19.120
It's disconnected from reality

02:12:19.120 --> 02:12:20.800
Now those things clearly matter

02:12:20.800 --> 02:12:22.980
When it comes to certain measures or metrics

02:12:22.980 --> 02:12:26.660
But whether that amounts to people of the country

02:12:26.660 --> 02:12:28.440
Being financially successful or happy

02:12:28.440 --> 02:12:29.860
Is an illusion

02:12:30.360 --> 02:12:32.460
It matters for them, for Congress

02:12:32.460 --> 02:12:33.380
For people in power

02:12:33.380 --> 02:12:35.000
And so that's what's so frustrating

02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:36.340
Is whether he even knows it or not

02:12:36.340 --> 02:12:37.020
And I think he does

02:12:37.500 --> 02:12:39.440
He's going, you know, we care about them

02:12:40.120 --> 02:12:41.760
Or maybe they have this, you know

02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:44.140
Trickle-down economics broken idea

02:12:44.140 --> 02:12:46.020
That somehow you benefit the upper class

02:12:46.020 --> 02:12:47.100
It'll trickle down to you

02:12:47.100 --> 02:12:47.760
It never does

02:12:47.760 --> 02:12:48.480
It never has

02:12:48.480 --> 02:12:49.560
History has shown that

02:12:49.560 --> 02:12:50.920
Maybe in some cases

02:12:50.920 --> 02:12:51.880
But not in a regular

02:12:51.880 --> 02:12:53.200
Says not the way that they frame that

02:12:53.200 --> 02:12:54.520
That it just all works out

02:12:54.520 --> 02:12:55.260
And it all just...

02:12:55.260 --> 02:12:55.760
No, it gets...

02:12:56.340 --> 02:12:57.040
Goes the other direction

02:12:57.040 --> 02:12:58.520
And so what he's doing is saying

02:12:58.520 --> 02:12:59.600
Wall Street is benefiting

02:12:59.600 --> 02:13:01.420
While all of you are suffering

02:13:01.420 --> 02:13:03.060
One more transfer of wealth

02:13:03.060 --> 02:13:04.180
Just like with COVID-19

02:13:04.180 --> 02:13:05.100
In all the different ways

02:13:05.600 --> 02:13:06.980
We're being reorganized

02:13:07.400 --> 02:13:09.120
I believe that's damn obvious

02:13:09.120 --> 02:13:10.340
Everything in front of us

02:13:10.340 --> 02:13:11.860
Is being reorganized and reaching

02:13:11.860 --> 02:13:13.180
I mean, that's what they tell us

02:13:13.180 --> 02:13:14.680
They're reimagining our world

02:13:15.280 --> 02:13:16.200
It's just not being as

02:13:16.680 --> 02:13:18.300
Put on the front and surf

02:13:18.300 --> 02:13:19.400
On the front, you know

02:13:19.400 --> 02:13:20.720
In the surface of the conversation

02:13:20.720 --> 02:13:22.340
Like it was during COVID-19

02:13:22.340 --> 02:13:23.960
Like it was during the Great Reset

02:13:23.960 --> 02:13:26.380
And there's obvious partisan reasons for that

02:13:26.380 --> 02:13:27.680
But if you're paying attention

02:13:28.340 --> 02:13:29.740
It's the same thing

02:13:29.740 --> 02:13:32.060
Literally the same endpoints

02:13:32.060 --> 02:13:34.240
Same goals, same dates

02:13:34.720 --> 02:13:36.120
I just hope people can actually

02:13:36.120 --> 02:13:36.840
Start to see that

02:13:37.440 --> 02:13:39.560
So lastly to finish after this point

02:13:39.560 --> 02:13:40.940
About how Great Wall Street is doing

02:13:40.940 --> 02:13:41.980
Well, guess what

02:13:41.980 --> 02:13:43.720
The US government officially

02:13:43.720 --> 02:13:46.200
Posts its largest July

02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:48.640
Budget deficit in history

02:13:50.280 --> 02:13:52.580
Negative $432 billion

02:13:52.580 --> 02:13:54.120
Yeah, but there

02:13:54.120 --> 02:13:55.300
But the guys at Wall Street

02:13:55.300 --> 02:13:56.340
Are making tons of money

02:13:56.340 --> 02:13:57.540
See how much that matters

02:13:57.540 --> 02:13:59.220
Due to the acceleration

02:13:59.220 --> 02:14:00.120
And federal spending

02:14:00.120 --> 02:14:03.200
A almost half a trillion

02:14:03.200 --> 02:14:04.500
Dollars in deficit

02:14:04.500 --> 02:14:06.460
Interest on US debt rose

02:14:06.460 --> 02:14:08.600
$26 billion from last July's

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Levels to an alarming

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$118 billion for the month

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That's just interest

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This puts total interest expenses

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For the fiscal year of 2026

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Up to $1.17 trillion

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As a result

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Interest expense has officially surpassed

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Both national defense and Medicare

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Spending

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In other words

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The US government now spends more money

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Just on interest

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Which we've talked about getting here

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Than it does to fund the entire US military

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To provide healthcare for seniors

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We cannot afford higher interest rates

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I just mean

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Simple point again

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They're profiting

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While the country

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And Americans

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Suffer

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Just like every other war

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We've been involved in

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In my opinion anyway

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So

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I find that to be very important

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Now I was

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I just had it

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I feel like I might

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I want to end with

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What was that

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There's a clip that I had

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I'm probably not going to be able to find it

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About the money

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Remember that

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Showing you the different

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Not that it's actually the best clip to end with

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But I just thought it was relevant

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The idea that we can even like fathom

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What a trillion dollars is

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Anybody

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It's like it's not

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The idea

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After a certain line

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It just kind of blends into the background

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And that's what they've come to understand

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What's 1 trillion, 10 trillion, 50 trillion

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It's just debt

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Don't worry about it

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It matters

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But I can't find it

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There it is

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Nice

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Cool

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Alright, so we'll end with this today

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And it really does

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I mean it accentuates the point

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Of how much this is

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And what it means

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And how, you know, the point is that they're

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You know, at the joke

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We'll make it today

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The fiscal conservative

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It's not just about conservatives though

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But today, you know

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The fiscal conservatives are

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You know, saving us again from the

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The bottom line is that we have a situation

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Where our government left and right

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Pass the baton back and forth

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And it just continues to get worse and worse

02:16:07.400 --> 02:16:09.720
If a company continued to make less money

02:16:09.720 --> 02:16:11.640
Or rather just continue to go into more debt

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Consistently, it wouldn't exist anymore, guys

02:16:14.280 --> 02:16:16.180
You'd be, you know

02:16:16.660 --> 02:16:17.760
Anything like this

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Wouldn't exist if it wasn't the government

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And all they're doing is siphoning wealth from you

02:16:22.760 --> 02:16:24.120
And, you know, on top of all that

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Committing genocide

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And, you know, spying on Americans

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And ignoring your rights

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And putting, you know, all the stuff we talk about

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So it really comes down to yet again

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To whether you want this to change

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What do you care about?

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What do you believe in?

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Ask yourself these things

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Now is the time to care

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Because I argue there's a time in the near future

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Where your life will look very different

02:16:44.220 --> 02:16:46.880
And you'll be wondering why you didn't do something now

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And, you know, I've never wanted to be hyperbolic

02:16:49.500 --> 02:16:51.260
But I want to be very clear about this

02:16:51.260 --> 02:16:53.260
What we're highlighting, I've said a million times

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Is not my opinion

02:16:55.320 --> 02:16:57.480
My opinion is how this, you know

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How it comes together, who they utilize

02:16:59.560 --> 02:17:01.500
And what the meaning and intent is

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What they're doing is happening in real time

02:17:05.720 --> 02:17:06.860
Right in front of you

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They're literally showing you what they're doing

02:17:09.040 --> 02:17:10.960
And they're rationalizing it with fighting China

02:17:10.960 --> 02:17:13.360
And rationalizing it with evil bad guy terrorists

02:17:13.360 --> 02:17:15.600
And evil, you know, and it's so clear

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So it just matters about what you care about

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And what you want to do about it now

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Thank you for tuning in

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I love you all, as always

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Question everything

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Come to your own conclusions

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Stay vigilant

