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FBI concluded Jeffrey Epstein wasn't running a sex trafficking ring for powerful men file show

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AP is the AP reporting it. Yeah

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Today. Oh, I thought that was from 2005

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That's the gas leadiest gas light and shit I've ever heard in my life. Whoa

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He did work for intelligence agency

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So could you resolve whether or not he did and also could you say why there's a minute missing from the jailhouse team?

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Oh

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Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein this guy's been talked about for years are people still talking about this guy this creep

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That is unbelievable. Are you still talking about Epstein? Yeah. Yeah, we are and I'm glad we are

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because thanks to the

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incredible work of

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Thomas Massey Rokana and a handful of others we now have real hard evidence of how

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the sausage of the deep state is made and

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Unfortunately for cash Patel we now have pretty damn solid evidence that he perjured himself in September of

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2025 just five months ago when he said this is no credible information

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None if there were I would bring the case

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Yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals and the information we have again is limited. So the answer is no one

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For the information that we have

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And the files in the case file. Okay, and why do we know that that was perjury?

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Well, because Thomas Massey late last night was going through the files because they were finally permitted

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They allowed congressional representatives to go into I assume it was a skiff

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I don't know exactly but they go into the room with all of the millions of files

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unredacted files and what Massey and Kana found out was that in fact the DOJ's version of the documents

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Still had redactions because they had not required the FBI to unredact their files before handing them over to the DOJ

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I'm asking you in that stuff. There's nothing that's related to the to any other sex trap any other people engaged

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With Epstein in underage sex correct to my knowledge. No

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Given what you saw today. Does that testimony ring true to you still? No, the FBI's own documents from 2019 list

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Leslie Wexner as a co-conspirator in a child sex trafficking case

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so

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You know, they've got some explaining to do

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Does that mean you think cash Patel heard or to himself?

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You know, I thought when he said that maybe he what he's the trick

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He's using in his mind is that well

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He's considering it prostitution and maybe what they have is evidence of sex trafficking of people who weren't minors

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But what we see tonight is the charge that Lex Wessner

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Wexner was a co-conspirator to was child sex trafficking and it's on the FBI's own documents from 2019

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So you're saying that should be investigated basically absolutely be investigated

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So mass he hopped over to CNN and he dragged Pam Bondi in the DOJ and cash for telling the FBI and

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He pressured them on X to disclose and unredact those names

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Which they did and what we found out is that there are in fact multiple co-conspirators and specifically

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explicitly co-conspirators in child trafficking, which is the exact

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question that was asked of cash Patel in September of 2025 and

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One of those names is a name that's very familiar to anybody who's been following this case for years like I have and I'm sure most of you

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Have is that less Wexner was listed as a co-conspirator in child trafficking. Now. Does that mean he's guilty?

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No, it doesn't mean he's guilty

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But it does mean that there was an FBI document that had less Wexner's name on it

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Listing him as a co-conspirator in child trafficking, which means that cash Patel

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By the letter of the law is best I can tell clearly purged himself

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God

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What does that mean? This is from June 6th 2011 from Tom Pritzker of the billionaire Pritzker family

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One of the richest families in the world to Jeffrey Epstein. I am in a remote Valley of Afghanistan and then in parentheses

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It's my birthday wish

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With boys with toys

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I want to believe that that means what what I think it means

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But we all know we it's been well documented in this studio by our friends who are tier one operators in Afghanistan

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What goes on in Afghanistan?

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As it relates to young boys

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These people are just saying it on email

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And I got to take a minute just to rip all of the Massey haters right now because they're driving me out of my

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Mind I cannot believe how stupid people are you've got basically one guy on the GOP side

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Especially now that MTG's left office

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That's really really really fighting for the American people and fighting for justice when it comes to these very very significant

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if not existential matters and you have this incredible

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PR campaign what I consider a propaganda push by Laura Loomer and a bunch of others in my opinion being paid to

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Attack Thomas Massey to constantly basically project all of his

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Accusations about the Trump administration or the DOJ or the FBI and then to project it on to Thomas Massey

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They're constantly critiquing him saying why won't he just say the names if he's seen the names

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Why won't he say the names? Well first off because if he doesn't say it on the congressional House floor the girls that he

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Uses as his witness to name those names can still be sued and hunted down

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By the wealthy billionaires that he's making these allegations against so really the only safe avenue he has is to

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Run a PR campaign against the DOJ and to force the DOJ and the FBI to unredact and to name these names

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So that these girls testimony can then be in the public eye the other critique that Massey often gets is that oh?

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Why is he going on to CNN? That's enemy territory. The reason he goes to CNN is because Fox News won't have him

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Fox News will not have Thomas Massey on their shows. This is one of the most favored

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Tools used to smear

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Dissidents from the GOP smear merchants. They do the same thing with MTG. They go

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Oh, she's going on the view that Thomas Massey goes to CNN

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The only reason that these people do those shows is because they've been blacklisted

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Thanks to the Trump administration and thanks to their relationship with Fox News

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So you can't then point at them and go how dare they not go spread this message on Fox News

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They can't they cannot and you know why and the other thing that's making me pull my hair out

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If I had any hair left to pull out would be the fact that Thomas Massey is like the number one guy in the GOP

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Who's pushing for all of the things that MAGA explicitly voted for

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Cutting the budget balancing the budget ending the wars ending the warfare state. He supports COVID justice

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He supports Epstein justice. He supports building the wall. He supports deportations

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There's like no daylight between you guys and him

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The only reason that there's daylight is because Trump has abandoned

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90% of those policies and yet you stand by Trump

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Well demonizing Massey the one guy who's actually serious about following through on the entire MAGA portfolio

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The fuck is wrong with you instead you stand by Trump as Trump stands by Lutnick

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I think you understand the root of concern here. It's the way you

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described

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Very emphatically your first encounter with him in his apartment said you were disgusted

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Would never have any contact with him again. Did you in fact make the visit to Jeffrey Epstein's private island?

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I did have lunch with him as I was on a boat going across on a family vacation

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My wife was with me as were my four children and nannies. I had another couple

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With they were there as well with their children

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And we had lunch on the island that is true for an hour

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And we left with all of my children with my nannies and my wife all together

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We were on family vacation. We were not apart to suggest there was anything untoward about that in 2012

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I don't I don't recall why we did it, but

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Mr. Secretary so that's Howard Lutnick under oath in front of the senate today being questioned by senator van Hollen

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Let's hear what Howard Lutnick had to say when he wasn't under oath talking to the new york post less than a year ago

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About this same exact issue. He opens the doors and there's a massage table in the middle of the room

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And candles all around stuff. So I ask very insightful cutting questions. I say to him

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Massage table in the middle of your house

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How often you have a massage?

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and he says

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Every day and then he like gets like weirdly close to me

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And he says and the right kind of massage

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Now my wife is standing here

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So she looks at me

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And I look at her

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And we say

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I'm sorry

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We have to go

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My wife and I decided that I will never

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Be in the room with that disgusting person

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ever again

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So I was never in the room with him

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socially

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For business

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Or if even philanthropy if that guy was there I wasn't going because he's

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Gross it doesn't get much more red-handed than that folks

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I mean this guy is on the record on mic on camera talking to a journalist

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Overtly lying and less than a year later. He's admitting that seven full years later

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He still maintained a relationship with jeffrey eppstein. There's additional reporting that howard letnik had business dealings with jeffrey eppstein

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too

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So this guy that he allegedly was a neighbor. I mean the factually was a neighbor with he lived

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Two doors down in new york from eppstein for years

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He met him one time according to howard letnik and he immediately

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Recognized that the guy was gross because he had a massage table in his living room and he described

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The types of massages that he would get and he and his wife immediately recognized this guy was a creep and he was gross

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And he had nothing to do with him ever again

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Yeah, that's my story a one and absolutely done

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right

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So I I mean that's an incredible story that you could pick up that he was a pervert

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It's gross the guy's gross

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All right with my wife and he's grow the guy's gross. This was not oh the deep nuance of howard letnik this guy's gross

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Right. So how come bill gates and all these other people could hang around him and not see what you saw

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Or did they see it and ignore it or no they participated right?

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That's what his mo was, you know, get a massage get a massage and what happened in that massage room

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I assume was on video this guy was the greatest blackmailer ever

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Except for doing business with him except for going to his island with his family seven years later

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Except for doing it fundraising events where he invited jeffrey eppstein when he was fundraising on behalf of hillary clinton

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As she campaigned against donald trump and donald trump stands beside

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Howard letnik as his commerce secretary regardless

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Secretary letnik today was testifying on the hill and he said that he had visited

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Epstein's island in 2012 with his wife and children

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And that's after he said that he had pet ties with Epstein and

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Justice department documents show that he was in contact with Epstein

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through 2018 over messages. So does the white house stand behind

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Secretary letnik right now secretary lotnik remains a very important member of president trump's team

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And the president fully supports the secretary and according to that journalist question there

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They alleged that howard lotnik had communications with jeffrey eppstein up through 2018

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When he was arrested and deceased a year later 2019 as I said

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red

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Handed you don't get more guilty than that now you could say okay. Well sure he lied about going to the island

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But that doesn't prove anything. You're right. It doesn't doesn't prove that he did anything untoward with minors or prostitutes or anything like that

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But what it does tell you is that this man is a pathological liar

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Pathological

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He lied

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egregiously for years about maintaining a relationship with eppstein for years

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why

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If he was doing nothing untoward

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Why hide it?

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Why hide it so aggressively there are hundreds of high profile people who had a relationship with jeffrey eppstein

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You don't have to lie about that relationship because no one unless they're totally crazy

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Believes that everyone who had ever communicated with jeffrey eppstein or gone to one of his

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Meetups or anything like that or one of his parties even

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Automatically means that you're a sexual predator. That's not what anyone believes

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We believe that some of them were and I'll tell you the ones that I really believe were

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Are the ones who lied about it the ones who continue to lie about it

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Now you may not be old enough to remember this testimony. I'm just barely old enough but

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Let's see if this is reminiscent for any of you old folks out there. I did not have any

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Relationship with him. I did not have sexual relations with that woman

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And think about how depraved we are as a nation or as a government at this point

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That bill clinton had his reputation ruined because he lied about his sexual relationship with monica lawinsky and now we have

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High-profile intel assets sexual predators and likely child traffickers that are having

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High-level relationships with the highest level people in corporate america corporate oligarchy all over the world as well as

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our own government

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And that's not enough to get people fired or have their careers ruined in america. Is that really where we're at?

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Bill clinton's indiscretion was worse than this. I think not

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But i'll tell you one thing I really like about this is that the energy from some of these congressional representatives

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Even the democrats which I despise. I like the tact that they're taking

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I like the outrage and disgust genuine disgust that some of them seem to be demonstrating after they were allowed to go in

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And see those fucking unredacted files. I just wanted to ask you

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Have you had a chance to review any of the unredacted files over at the doj the abscene files? I did

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You did. Yeah, I just came from there. What can you tell us? There's a bunch of sick fucks

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And and and I mean

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Anything more that we don't know. I feel like that's pretty well established. I know. I think I think the part that is just so

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Disgusting. Yeah, is that

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So many people knew

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that's representative valent out of vermont and

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Ideologically politically we align on basically nothing but

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When it comes to this we're in a line. We are dealing with some seriously sick fucking people and uh

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I'm glad to say that there are a few democrats and yes, of course

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They're using it as a political football and some of them are totally insincere, but regardless

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Use them for our ends. Use them to pursue justice. Use them to hunt down the deep state. Use them to

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Oust

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Pam bondy cash patel. I'm not telling you to become a rocona fan

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I'm just telling you that his efforts right now benefit us tremendously

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So I'm going to support him in the interim

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Massey and I went to the department of justice to read the unredacted epstein files

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We spent about two hours there and we learned that 70 to 80 percent of the files are still redacted

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In fact, there were six wealthy powerful men

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That the doj hid for no apparent reason

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When congressman massey and I pointed this out to the department of justice

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They acknowledged their mistake and now they have revealed the identity of these six powerful men

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These men are salvatore navara

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Zorab

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micolads

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leopig leonor

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nicola caputa

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sultan ahamed bin suliam CEO of goby ports world

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and billionaire businessman

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Leslie wexner and that sultan guy that he referenced right there

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It's alleged that he was the one who sent the email to epstein saying loved the torture video

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What?

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So according to thomas massey

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He in fact sent a video of torture

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Now, I don't know the nature of that torture or the victim

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But I do know that that's insane and I don't know why these people aren't being prosecuted

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But then you recognize that oh, it's a sultan. It's probably from an allied nation and therefore

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Yeah, we're we're burying it to benefit our geopolitical relationships to the detriment of our domestic population

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Us the americans. I can hear the angst in your your voice over the epstein files

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The reason people are bothered is because last year you said you had cut off all contact

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But there are eight incidences of interaction

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In the in the files after

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2005 just encourage you to be completely frank and open with everyone tell you what I think about it

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I think personally

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That Howard lutnick behaves as if he's a handler

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He believes he behaves as if he handles donald trump and donald trump's loyalty to him

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Despite the fact that Howard lutnick demonstrated no loyalty to trump in fact funding his opposition hillary clinton

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as recently as 2015 16

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It tells me that Howard lutnick is a bigger time player than donald trump. Let me repeat that in case she didn't catch it

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I'm saying that our current commerce secretary is more high powered connected and important

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Than the current sitting president of the united states

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That's the only conclusion I could come to because otherwise

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You immediately throw this guy overboard and why do I think that?

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Well, because if donald trump was

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Looking after his political future or his political legacy

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Obviously the thing that he would be doing is firing Howard lutnick firing

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Cache Patel firing pan bondy. He should have fired dan bonjino, but he quit

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He should be supporting and endorsing thomas massie instead of backing a 20 plus million dollar

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GOP primary campaign against thomas massie

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But he's not he's not doing any of those things and I would like for you to ask yourself why

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Why is donald trump actively overtly doing things that are counter to everything?

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He told you he stood for and stood by for a decade plus and the answer as best I can tell

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Is that he is compromised?

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He is compromised by our greatest ally to make it explicit

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And the lutnick non-firing and the epstein cover-up and the just broad-based cover-up of all of this from every

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Layer of justice while donald trump sits on his hands or worse condemns the people who demand justice

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Tells me everything I need to know that this is existential to him

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Because it is obviously

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massively damaging to his reputation and to his legacy and to

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Him improving this country or improving the world

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And yet he is unrelenting in his support of all of these people as they overtly actively lie to us and in my opinion

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Commit treason. Oh, hi pam bondy. What are you doing with keith frankel?

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I have a couple questions for you pam. How much were the acting lessons?

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Do the epstein victims that you cried with know that you're friends with keith frankel

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Why was keith frankel and jeffrey ebbstein talking about body boxes on february 10th 2010

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You've read the files, so i'm sure you can tell us

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If jeffrey ebbstein was such a monster pam, how come keith went to his house so many times?

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One thing that was mentioned in the ebbstein files is children being trafficked out of ukraine

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Keith frankel and his family run a children's home that takes children out of ukraine

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You need to cut the shit pam

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You need to cut the shit now. Why do I say it's treason?

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Well, because I believe that they are actively lending aid to our enemies

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They are actively subverting our government. They are actively undermining the will of the american people

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They are actively pushing us towards wars with iran for instance that do not benefit us or even really benefit us geopolitically either

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And i'm not the only one feeling that way. Here's mtg people are gonna have to completely

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Take in what they are seeing with their own eyes what they're reading and what they're being told the reality is

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The trump administration is not releasing the information

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And i got you look i got yelled at by the president over this he this is why he called me a trader

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He called me a trader because i would not take my name off the discharge petition

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Because i stood firmly and said no i we are going to release the ebbstein files

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I'm standing with women who were raped as teenagers. I'm not standing with the government

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I I don't support I don't support the cover-up of of all of this stuff whatever it may be

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And the president got mad at me and he's told me and i've said this multiple times

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He told me his friends would get hurt the full disclosure of the ebbstein files would hurt donald trump's friends

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So now you have to ask yourself

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Who are trump's friends then you have to look at his behavior

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You have to look at all of the things he does geopolitically

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What is his primary consideration when it comes to geopolitics?

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It's what benefits israel what is his primary consideration when it comes to economics or

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Really anything with this second term of his presidency seems to be whatever benefits israel

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So when he says it hurts his friends, who do you think he's talking about?

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And it's important to recognize that 60 to 70 of these files are still redacted

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We know that there are over 2 million

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Documents that have still yet to be released. We also found out today thanks to reporting that says that donald trump

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Well, his name was in the files 50,000 times. In fact 95 percent of the times his name was in those files. They were redacted

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They were not supposed to be according to the congressional law from connie and conna and massie

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It was not

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legal to redact his name and yet

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950,000 times

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Donald trump's name was redacted from those files now. I've been very consistent on this

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I don't have any reason to believe that donald trump did anything with anyone under age

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There is no evidence to that end. But the reality is this

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this operation

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Had an aspect of that

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And unless I know the full truth unless I have all of the documents unredacted

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Obviously not including anything that's illegal to see or anything that damages the victims

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But rather everything else, which is what the congressional law says. They are legally mandated to do

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Well, then I have to assume the worst. I have to

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Why else would you completely

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Abandon all of your campaign promises? Why would you completely destroy your legacy? It's something major

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I don't know what it is

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But I have to assume it's something very very significant

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And as far as I'm concerned the same animosity that people are approaching thomas massie

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fucking idiots

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I'm going to take that same tact with everybody within the trump administration at present because as far as I'm concerned

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They are all co-conspirators in this cover-up if not the operation itself

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And I don't know how I come to any conclusion any other conclusion. I don't know how anybody comes to any other conclusion

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It's so egregious and over the top at this point. What are we to do?

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We have to assume that these people are involved at some level

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And until we see people in handcuffs and orange jumpsuits being perp walked and prosecuted and jailed forever

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I don't want to hear a fucking word from any of these people about anything else

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That's all I care about if I can't trust you on this

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I can't trust you on anything and I don't know why anybody would feel differently

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This is the litmus test. This is the red line. If you can't deliver on this, we can't trust you ever again

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That's very straightforward

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Do you know what this is?

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I mean, I I've heard the term but what what does it mean? It's uh, I think it means

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slaves, right?

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Nation cattle

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Yeah, it's it's a racial slur to everybody that's not jewish

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This is in these files like and she's saying this everywhere not just her epstein

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Epstein started to former prime minister of israel

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and

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What is that what's going on and then we see all these

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These laws being passed here in the states for anti-Semitism

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What what about the rest of us?

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Why aren't we protecting the rest of us?

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So as far as I'm concerned until trump actually rectifies this situation, which I don't expect him to but

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Until he actually fires these people and prosecutes or pushes for the prosecution of cash patelle

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I don't want to hear a fucking word about me standing by him or

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You know carrying water for the GOP when it comes to the midterms and honestly if you're still watching political commentators that are telling you like

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Get out the vote. We got to make sure that the GOP defeats these evil democrats. It's like they're just not being honest with you

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They're not being straight with you. They're not actually telling you the truth about the obvious depravity that exists within the GOP

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They are access journalists. They are only interested in maintaining access with these high powered people

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Because it benefits them or at least they perceive

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Benefit if some of them are also being paid and they're actually actively on the payroll and they are actively

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You know, they're paid propagandists for the regime, but regardless it's your prerogative

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Okay, you you get to decide who gets your attention and if you're still giving

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I don't look you don't even have to give it to me if you find somebody else that you like better

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More power to you, but you cannot continue to give it to people that you know are actively lying to you

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Please stop. I'm begging you and I'll end with this

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There's one other guy who may not be actively lying to you

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But I want you to really pay attention to his behavior right now or lack of action right now because that guy is jade vance

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jade vance prior to becoming the vice president united states was talking about how

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This case was really deeply concerning and that we needed justice and he said and I quote

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Remember when we learned that our wealthiest and most powerful people were connected to a guy who ran a literal child sex trafficking ring

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And then that guy died mysteriously in a jail and now we just don't talk about it

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Yeah, I do remember that jd and I also remember when you said that and I also

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Am paying attention to the fact that you're not saying fucking anything like that right now

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You're not saying anything about it

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And you are doing the exact same thing that you condemned the bite administration for doing

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You are now actively covering up this obvious op and if you think the people aren't noticing you're wrong

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we're noticing

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You intend to be the next president united states and if you don't differentiate yourself by calling this bullshit out right now

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Don't ever expect any of us to trust you. You're clearly part of the op itself

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If you don't have the courage to stand up, especially with such an easy

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obvious win like this such an obvious

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Great moral stance to take and you're still too much of a bitch to take it

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Well, then you're not cut out to be the next president

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And I don't think anybody should be supporting you if you don't have the fucking kahona is to say something right now

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If you enjoy this episode, please do it the like button subscribe share it around

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I'm pissed. All right guys. Leave a comment down below. Peace

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We hate the virus. We write the virus

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We hate the virus

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Last night I was on my buddy clint russell's podcast liberty lockdown clint russell by the way criminally underrated

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He's great. So it was me him and ian carroll. Uh, and we did uh trending. You guys are counting. Yeah. Well, it was a great show

