Hello and welcome to this episode of Beth of Fresh Air.
It's November 28, 2025.
And so today we're gonna have a good talk
about cleaning up.
I am strangely excited for this conversation
and I'll talk about that in a little bit.
Hello, Mike Neu, nice to see you.
Come and say hello in the chat if you're out there.
Help me share this around.
As usual, there's some blocks in the channels
you might say.
But I just got the nicest little testimonial
for Beth of Fresh Air.
If you have any inspiration to let me know
if you like it, if that's true,
then here, let me see if I can pull this up.
I think I did manage to do that.
So someone emailed me and said,
I love your expression, so full of passion, vigor,
sucker, I forgot to look that up.
What does it mean, succor, sucker?
And also the raw humility
of your myriad of personal experiences or shares.
I got several good laughs from your backwards walking story,
even laughing.
He said out loud now, but it didn't fit in the banner.
So that was really fun for me.
It's always nice to know that things
are actually reaching people
and I'm not just speaking into the ethers here
because it's more fun.
It's more of an exchange.
And that's personally what I am invested in.
So today's episode is called Clear.
I was kind of conflicted between calling it Clear
and calling it Clean.
Now, can you guys guess the reason I didn't call it Clean?
Even though it's slightly more accurate,
although Clear also does the job.
But isn't it funny, the little things,
hello Maya, nice to see you, glad you're here.
It's fantastic.
It's funny the little things that go on behind the scenes.
People really have no idea.
I remember someone after I had Sarah Tomato on,
they were criticizing her for just sitting there
during her debates.
And it's like, you have no idea what's going on
in the back end when somebody is live streaming.
I'm just doing it with one person
or with usually one guest, maybe two guests at the most.
And it's still like a ton of things going on
at the same time.
I could definitely use another screen,
kind of related to today's theme.
So yeah, is there a real difference
between Clean and Clear?
I think for me, I just didn't want to be like the mama
who's wagging their finger saying, clean up,
even though it's kind of like that.
I'm always speaking to myself in these live streams.
So don't take it personally.
It might be something that you can make use of.
This is stuff in my head and my heart.
And I get excited about it.
I just have that thing where I can excite myself.
That's a pretty good skill.
And clean isn't always transparent,
clear usually as interesting.
Yeah, I like that word transparency a lot.
It's one of my higher values
as a way of being in the world.
So yeah, transparency, what the heck?
There's so many good things that come of it,
including that people see who you are.
Some people don't like that
because they have something to hide.
But if you don't have stuff to hide
and you're willing to come clean,
we'll talk about come clear, come clean,
then transparency is so beautiful
because people get to see you and know you.
And then they have a really clear way
to know if you're their people or not.
And that's a time saver right there.
So thanks for that.
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Nice to see you live on Rumble as well.
Let me just check if that happened.
I, yep, it looks like we're live on Rumble
and Vigilante TV, shout out to my assistant, Kristen,
who makes that happen,
because I don't really have all the time in the world
as it is these streams.
Boy, they take a lot,
but the satisfaction level is there for me.
These topics, including, very much including today's,
are things that I'll say friends and family
don't necessarily care for this level of geeking out, right?
So if I wanted to enter into big discussion about cleaning,
it's not just about cleaning, so this is deep.
And I'm praying I can get it all in one episode.
Help me out in the chat,
whether you're on any of the platforms,
I will be seeing your comments with any exceptions.
No, I don't think so.
I will see your comments.
And try to cover all the ground today.
Hello, Ms. Nayakis, beautiful.
Michelle, glad you are here.
Yeah, so friends and family don't necessarily
want to geek out on this stuff with me,
but my brain is full of it.
And that's why I'm so excited to talk about it,
because there's something that happens
when you get the stuff that's in your brain,
your heart, your mind, whatever it is,
and you get it out.
There's immense satisfaction in that.
And I think it was Thomas Moore
after I lived through cancer.
The first thing that I wanted to do was record music,
because I had this feeling that if I died
with that stuff inside me,
it would be a worse thing than just dying.
And oh, Elizabeth Lindsay is here.
Nice to see you, fantastic.
I miss you guys from the last year's Journey Code.
That was my family, think of you often.
And so, yeah, you don't want your best stuff to die in you
and to get it out in some way or another.
It doesn't have to be live streaming or writing a book
or anything like that.
I'm gonna be diving into a lot more creating in the new year
with a new course coming out called Creator Code.
And I am currently already enrolling
what I call a beta group.
And so the beta group is gonna be the voyage run
of this course.
And they're gonna help me to possibly work out some bugs
and give me some feedback.
This is, none of this work is new,
but putting it together in this particular way
for visioning and creating is new.
So I always love to have people tell me,
how is it going?
And then I can make it really, really useful
for people in the future.
All right, so like I said,
this podcast is my way to clean up all of this,
which is floating in my life and my mind
and that I am purposed to share.
I now have access to making transcripts super easy
and I'm thinking about installing this podcast
in my deprogramming 101 course
that I've just been revamping
and people are signing up for.
I have the tendency to create the most advanced work first.
I don't know why I haven't necessarily
consciously decided on that.
And then I work my way back and I see
how could people benefit from more simple iterations
or kind of starter versions.
And so that's what I've done,
gone back to the very beginning,
taken an old course that was not totally out of date.
I re-listened to a bunch of stuff
and I'm like, yep, that's still me,
that still is my work.
But if you have been, say, watching my live streams,
tuning in with various things,
and you've heard me talk about deprogramming,
I'm gonna talk about it today again
because it's a very big part
of the subject of being clear and clean.
And you'd like to chat about the deprogramming 101,
I call it the science of emotional precision,
then put up your hand and we can have a chat.
You can do that at my website on any form there.
You can email me beth at bethmartins.com.
I won't put that on the screen
just so that the bots don't eat it alive
because it's still clean.
It's a clean email-ish, it's a clean-ish email.
Speaking of inboxes,
do you guys have a bunch of junk in yours right now?
It's funny, it's been Black Friday for three weeks already.
Every time I keep thinking, oh, it's Thanksgiving already.
It's like, no, no, that's two and a half weeks away.
And yep, people are just high-speed emailing.
I have a, I don't know,
I just refuse to take advantage of mainstream topic
of clear and clean is that say water is super murky
and you jump in, we have some pretty murky lakes here
and it's not just because they're polluted, they are now
but they were always like that,
that the water has a great deal of say clay content.
And as you might know, if you've worked with clay,
it dissolves in water to a great degree
and it makes the water cloudy.
And the only thing that clears that water
is not by getting in there and jumping around
and waving your arms and working really hard
and doing a bunch of stuff with this metaphor,
it's really about being still and waiting.
Now that lake is like an ocean,
so it doesn't have a lot of still time.
So I've actually, I've never seen that particular lake,
I'm thinking of clear, but nonetheless,
if you want something to clear,
often stillness and calmness and silence
is going to be a good part of the equation.
So yeah, the Black Friday Stampede comes to mind.
Yeah, I did take advantage of one thing
and I got myself that I haven't got yet
but I am so Jonesing for it because it's getting colder
here in Canada, we're totally done.
We won't have a warm day again,
starting to get the snow and so I got myself a sauna blanket
and I could imagine spending a lot of time in there.
It's very convenient.
I don't have a space for a big sauna.
I don't want to install a little house in my house
and the sauna blanket sounds just right for me.
So if you want to know more about it,
sweating is very important,
very important part of cleaning.
I'm definitely going to talk
about the physical detox side of things.
You can't miss it.
You can't clean outside and not clean inside
and it works the other way around.
You can't clean inside and not clean outside.
So I'll get into a lot of the nuances around this.
And so yeah, the mental thing,
it is a lot about silence and stillness
but it doesn't go all the way.
I got sick with a stage four lymphoma,
meditating every single day for not like a bazillion hours.
I was a working professional woman
and but yeah, there was plenty of silence and stillness
and I still got sick as a dog doing that.
So it's not the whole thing.
When it comes to the physical,
there's compared with the mental and emotional,
there's always effort, there's always changes.
Like if you don't change something, nothing changes.
And but you can learn to make less effort
and get more results.
That's the alchemist archetype, by the way.
I'm going to be talking about some Sanskrit.
I've been digging up my old Sanskrit.
Some of that is happening in the House of Free Will
where there's stuff coming up.
Maybe I should talk about what's coming up, by the way,
quickly before we get into it
but I've been unearthing some of my old Sanskrit resources.
The pages are all yellow and they're scribbled on
in a good way with lots of notes.
I used to be just so into it.
And as part of what's called the Patanjali Yog Sutras,
not yoga sutras, there's no yoga.
It's yog, by the way, just like the word yoke.
There's as part of the eight limbs of yoga,
there is a section that's dedicated to purity
and cleanliness and all the things that are related to it.
So that's fun to pull out again,
a little bit of Sanskrit.
And yeah, just coming up,
so I let you guys know in the House of Free Will,
we have two events coming up on December 6th.
We're doing a round table in law
and we're going to demangle the private domain.
This is something that it looks like
it's making another resurgence.
There's been waves.
There was a big wave, 2021, 2022.
A lot of gurus came forward in the law spaces
and started offering people to go into the private,
to take refuge in the private.
And I do not speak Sanskrit, by the way,
so don't speak Sanskrit to me.
I know some Sanskrit words.
I know how to pronounce them.
I have written music in them
and I know some of the alphabet,
although I haven't spent much time with it recently,
but English, teeny bit of French, teeny bit of Spanish,
just to save my life, but that's all.
And yeah, so in the House of Free Will,
the round table in law,
that's going to be amazing for anybody
that actually likes the truth.
And honestly, it's kind of funny for me
because like a little kid coming into a truth
and freedom movement, especially a truth movement,
I had the sense that people really,
really wanted the truth more than anything
and they were willing to go to the end of the earth for it.
I just, it seemed like makes sense to me.
It fit my values and it's like, okay,
yeah, let's get right down to the bottom of it.
But what I've noticed for the most part
is there are gatekeepers.
It can be inside your own cognition,
literally having the ability related to today's topic,
having the inability to take in anything new,
especially when it argues
with everything you already put in there.
That gets dicey.
Then you're gonna have,
then you're crossing a precipice
and you're going to have to come clean.
I'll talk about that and say, hey, I was wrong.
And so if I have any claim to fame whatsoever,
it is that ability to say, oh yeah.
You know, I used to bang the feminist drum like crazy
and get up and tell everybody what was wrong with men.
Although, you know, I wasn't evil or mean
or anything like that.
It was more behind the scenes,
a little bit more sophisticatedly delivered,
but nonetheless, it was the same.
And when I had a breakthrough,
when I realized that was just a pile of crap
due to a lot of inner, deprogramming work,
then I just came out and I said it, right?
I'm not saying I'm so great,
but this is something people have seen me,
if they've stayed with me over the years
that I have been, quote unquote, out there,
then I often get the feedback that people like that,
that they've seen me grow.
And I'm willing to do that when I hear a greater truth
and I can verify it and I have evidence for it
and I can work with it in a reliable way,
then I'm going to say it.
And hello to a few people in that chat.
Nice to see you, Trillix, KK1YP,
and JJ Hempcreet is here.
Nice to see you as quietly content bearer around as well.
You guys seem to come together.
Ah, there you go, I was reading,
literally reading the next chat that was coming up.
That's so fun.
You guys must be together.
That's lovely.
And yeah, so changing your mind is a really good thing.
And then related back to the House of Free Will,
I have found someone who they got smacked around a lot in law
using the, you know, the crap and the lies
and the things that don't work, but sound good.
And so he set his course for real education,
going back to not, you know, the basics,
but to the historical context that creates the law
and, you know, to explain why did he have very bad results
using all of the other junk?
And he's become extremely educated and very,
what is the word?
I don't know, he's just sharp as a tack.
He's nice as anything.
I've never seen him call anybody out
or speak badly of them,
or, you know, if someone is spouting stuff that's not true,
he doesn't go like, you idiot, withdrawn with you or anything.
And he inquires, he knows how to ask questions.
That's very uncommon, all of those qualities.
So I feel very excited to have him
as a member of the House of Free Will.
And he's been, I think we've done four round tables
in law now, those are all available as recordings.
And so you can jump in and get those
and then be part of the live one
that's coming up on December 8th.
In the afternoon, in central time, 2.30 p.m.
Anything you can't catch live is recorded
except our weekly meetings,
which tend to be more private and more candid.
And we, you know, speak more freely there.
Not that I, I don't know why I speak pretty freely,
but there's things I won't say in public.
I just won't.
Or on the record.
Also in the House of Free Will,
we have a Love Your Liver group
that is private to the House of Free Will.
It's a chat on Telegram and we're sharing
if you're familiar with the Love Your Liver approach
to healing and nutrition, then that is a great group.
It's a great resource where you can ask questions
if you're already into Garrett's work
and you are a member of his thing,
then that more qualifies you to be
in the House of Free Will,
but we don't mind beginners have questions.
And usually people come to this work
when nothing else works,
when you damaged yourself with all the wrongies,
whether it's in mainstream medicine
or in the other, you know, quoting,
well, it's natural medicine,
but can also be very much a poison medicine.
So we are having a meetup December 8th
that we'll be comparing notes.
I am now 14 months into my Love Your Liver journey
and have experienced a lot and changed a lot
and learned a lot.
It's been sometimes a little low learning,
but better, slow than never.
And yeah, Michelle knows me to be a ball buster.
Now is now a Beth,
or the then ball buster is now a Beth of Fresh Air.
Yeah, I could still bust a ball or two,
but I'm pretty judicious in deciding
when I would pull out that.
I can't remember the last time I had to bust a ball,
honestly, it's not that much fun.
I did wanna show just in case you guys weren't here before,
I don't want to show a testimonial
for the Beth of Fresh Air podcast.
They said, I love your expression,
so full of passion, vigor, sucker.
I need to know what sucker means
if I'm even saying that right.
And also the raw humility of your myriad
of personal stories and personal shares.
I appreciate hearing that because sometimes I wonder
if just spilling my guts and sharing all my experiences
is actually useful to people.
So that helps me to hear that.
And he said he got several good laughs
from my backwards walking story.
You can watch the last one, episode number six.
This is episode number seven.
And he got a laugh out loud from that.
So that's fun.
I like to make people laugh.
I always like to make my mom laugh when I was a kid.
I bet that was a survival strategy to tell you the truth.
What else is coming up?
So three interviews, two in December, one in January.
I have booked Joel Schaefer.
Super excited to talk to him
on the Shea Manic track of truth,
which I didn't even think people
were really digging the truth there,
but he has proved that to be different.
And it's been really beautiful.
I feel very aligned with him actually.
So that should be a good conversation.
Hello, Leah Flynn.
Nice to meet you.
It's the most useful for you is what?
Can you remind me what that was about?
Maybe you're at the beginning of the video again.
And so what else is coming up?
Kelsey Kenny, I booked her for an interview on December 18th
and it's gonna be called Brain and Breath Food.
So I've been pretty excited.
You heard me talk about the MSG
and all the cognitive benefits from that last time.
So I'm gonna get her to go so deep in the science,
get her to geek right out.
Cause I always hear her when she talks,
she's a little bit apologetic for geeking out.
And I'm like, no, no, we want that.
Or I certainly want that
because I'm finally able to start hearing it.
You know, it's not gobbledygook and Leah Flynn.
Thank you.
I have a short memory, personal shares and stories.
I appreciate that that it's useful
because that's the relatability, right?
That's why we're not just all having our own track
and doing our own thing in the background, right?
It's, we need the reflection.
We need to bounce off people.
We need to hear something where we can find ourself.
And to me, that's what our stories are all about.
So Kelsey, Kenny's coming up December 18th
and then very interesting.
His name is Achille Curato, I guess.
He is a Canadian ex-police officer
that has been through absolute hell.
So he has first-hand experience of being persecuted
in the efforts to bring about justice.
And so that's going to be fascinating.
He asked me for an interview,
I believe it was last year
or it could have been even before that.
He kind of disappeared.
I don't know, maybe he had some indecision
but he recently contacted me again
and he's gonna be coming on in January,
first thing in the year.
And Leah, you said, it's what drew me to you.
We always seem to be aligned in the questions
we were asking on the journey.
How beautiful is that?
I love it.
You helped me a lot, by the way.
Leah, we had a personal conversation
about my creator code course coming up.
I don't even know if it was called that
when I talked to you,
but I had some good revelations right after our chat,
made some changes.
I made it smaller, by the way,
because you gave me that feedback
that there was just too much in there.
And that is one of the errors that I can make for sure.
All right, so let's go deeper into this subject.
And so we're definitely on the topic of discipline
when it comes to cleaning and clearing.
It requires discipline.
And I like to unpack that word for people a little bit
because it sounds like, oh,
at least to say a child archetype or a rebel archetype,
it might not sound good.
To the warrior archetype,
they're like, yeah, bring it on, create the discipline.
But it's not palatable to the rebel for sure.
Child's not gonna like it.
They won't really groove on that.
But the word discipline is rooted in the word disciple
and that is rooted in the word devotion.
And that means love.
So if you can make cleaning up and the discipline of that,
a love thing, that really is a very high purpose for it.
And your motive behind anything really does matter.
It's not just doing the thing.
Have you ever rage cleaned?
This is not really cleaning.
You might get some stuff done.
You might break some things along the way.
You're gonna be measurable.
You're going to accelerate the bad hormones
running through your body.
And it's just not worth it.
So I thought I've been there for sure, rage cleaning.
It's a thing.
Let me know if you ever do that.
So I think I forgot something across the room.
Give me just one second and be right back with you.
There we go.
So I am dependent on this drug.
It's called lip balm.
I now make my own, by the way,
thanks to the Love Your Liver guidelines
about what to not put on your skin
because it's full of vitamin A.
So I make my own.
I'm pretty proud of myself.
If anyone wants a recipe, just contact me.
And rage cleaning is a great workout.
And rage snow shoveling, aha.
Yes, that totally counts.
Polyglotier888, or go-go-tieri888.
Nice to see you here.
And yeah, great, great workouts.
I personally love shoveling.
I don't know what that is.
It's weird.
My son got a job this year doing like landscaping
and then when the snow comes,
he's doing snow removal for the same company.
And he loves it and he's like totally showing up
and being disciplined and getting picked
when there's less work he's getting picked.
So that's super fun.
And I joked with him,
are you gonna come and clean my driveway?
And secretly thinking in the back of my mind,
it's like, no, no, but I like to do it.
I like to do it because you get outside,
maybe you're gonna get some light in your eyes,
which is not, it's kind of disappearing for us
in the North here, I have to say.
And yeah, I like it because it's a natural way to exercise,
especially if you go on both sides of your body
and you feel accomplished
and there's beautiful clean space
and you can drive and you're not gonna get stuck
in your own driveway, which I have many times
got stuck in my own driveway.
And thanks, Jay-Jay Hamcrete about the lip balm.
Yeah, hit me up for a recipe.
It's pretty simple and easy
and you can get these little doohickeys online.
Cause honestly, I couldn't buy a good one.
I used to buy from a friend of mine,
but his is all calendula-based
and calendula is definitely vitamin A.
Yes, you can tell because it's like
got an orange-yellow tinge to it.
So sad about that.
I have the heart to tell him.
And yeah, so discipline is really good.
And when you clean, you basically create space,
you clear surfaces, you make room.
And that room is, I know you guys know
this won't be information to you,
but it is space for something else, something new.
Or it's just space.
And I'll talk about that a little while
in a little bit as well.
So you see immediate visual results snowing.
I know, I know the satisfaction is off the charts.
I love that.
And you need a heated snowmobile suit.
Yeah, that would be good.
It does make a big difference
to just have the right gear.
So you're not afraid of being outside.
Like by now, I might have already been inside
for six weeks, but I've been kind of doing
the warrior thing and just dressing properly
and going out, we'll see how long that lasts.
I also go to a tanning bed,
which is five minutes in the beautiful
what do you call it, warmth and light.
And then quite completely content bearer
would probably like the recipe of course.
Yes, I don't mind.
It's not proprietary.
I'm not gonna sell lip balms.
I'm just not going there.
That's not my jam.
And yeah, so here's one of my things that
I've got a few aphorisms about cleaning
and clearing.
And so here's the first one.
When in doubt, clean.
So if you hit some kind of a bump
or you just like there's,
you're going to do something,
but you have doubt about it
or maybe you're doubting yourself
or maybe you're doubting somebody else
or there's just some kind of doubt.
You're making a big decision
and then you go into doubt.
Well, of course the very first thing
that I would recommend is to release
and de-program that is the ultimate.
And I combine up the cleaning and the release work.
There's something just so beautifully satisfying.
So if I have energy and I'm not,
I don't need a rest and I don't need to lay down
and I, more and more I get these amazing sleeps
thanks to detoxing and I wake up
and I have energy and it's like, oh, beautiful.
So if I'm kind of like the object in motion
stays in motion to a degree that you can go on with that.
So I have this thing.
When in doubt, clean.
When in doubt, just go to something that,
if I feel like I can't do the thing I'm doing anymore
because I whatever don't know what's gonna come next,
then moving towards cleaning,
it just inevitably something easily comes, right?
I don't keep grinding on my thing, I will release
but I won't grind and think
and trying to come up with the solution
and all that kind of thing.
So this is a really good thing I recommend.
When in doubt, clean up.
Here's another thing.
When things are lost, clean up.
Because do you guys know how incredibly frustrating it is
when you lose things?
Like your keys when you're on your way out
and you have exactly enough time to get there
or just you're gonna be a little late anyway
and then you got a key issue.
So let's see what Michelle said.
Is this on a blanket also like red light therapy?
No, it's, this one in particular is using,
what is it, infrared, infrared light.
So maybe is that red light therapy?
It's different, isn't it?
No, this is infrared.
So it heats you from the inside like a microwave.
I don't know.
It's low EMF, you have to be really careful about the EMFs
because you can be getting like a really good sweat
with the infrared, but you're also getting zapped.
So these things are a little bit like a Faraday cage
that will also protect you while you're in it
from other EMFs, not UVBs.
That's what you want.
There's no UVBs in this on a blanket.
It's just the heat and the sweat.
So we will definitely talk about that.
Yeah, so when things are lost, clean up rather
than furiously looking for the thing
because that's kind of, when you lost the thing
and it's gone, then that's really frustrating
and it can create a whole level of frustration
in your heart and your mind.
And so I will always resort to cleaning
when I lose something or when my son was young
and he would lose something and be frustrated,
then I just start to clean, declutter, clear,
check out all of the neglected
and I don't care anymore.
I'm not looking for the thing anymore.
I am just clearing and decluttering
and almost inevitably I find the thing.
I almost, it's a beautiful surprise
because I was no longer trying to find the thing,
but there I found it.
I had that experience, was it?
Couple of weeks ago, I was working with a partner
doing some of the deprogramming work
and as soon as we finished, I looked down
and there was two lost things, right?
Totally symbolic in a way, but that's how it works.
When you clear the space, then you can find things.
And yes, and Leah said when you feel stuck down
or in a rut, you clean, it's so therapeutic.
Yeah, so I'm not alone.
Now, is this a girl thing?
Is this more from women?
Sorry for the sirens.
Wouldn't be the same, we didn't have sirens.
So is it just a girl thing?
I'd like to hear from you guys
if this is like relatable to men at all.
It was one of the things that happened
when I created the Beth of Fresh Air,
the first iteration didn't survive
but it turned into, it's kind of like the mirror
to the king hero side.
This is the more feminine side.
Doesn't mean that it's not gonna be for guys.
I'm not gonna alienate you guys.
Definitely a girl thing, JJ says.
Okay, good to know.
All right, good to know.
Now, if you're buried alive in your own stuff,
maybe I have to tell this story a little sooner.
Back in my yoga days when I was a yoga teacher
and I had a psychologist that would refer people to me
when he wasn't having great success with them,
which wasn't the best.
I mean, if he's not having success,
yoga isn't gonna solve your problems
and that's mostly what I was doing at that time.
But he hooked me up with a client
that I would have to go to their space for some reason.
I think they were physically disabled.
I was trying to remember even the details, I can't.
And I would have to go to their house.
I remember exactly where I was on Edison
here in Winnipeg for some reason.
I can go to my friend's house like 12 times
and I don't remember where they are,
but I could probably go to this guy's doorstep
for some reason, speaking of remember,
but that was last week.
And he had stuff piled from the floor to the ceiling
and several layers.
Even the hallways were jammed up, right?
A really classic hoarder had just a bunch of garbage.
He had so many newspapers, old newspapers.
Why do people hang on to those things?
It's amazing.
And then his body was really decrepit
and he didn't have good mobility.
And even sitting in a chair to breathe
was an effort for him.
It didn't last that long.
You can't have a whole lot of good progress.
When you're deep in your own stuff in your space
and then your body also, you can tell,
he was toxic as all get out.
I don't know, I don't think you're gonna have
that much progress in the process.
And Rick, nice to see you, glad to have you here.
Hi Beth, everybody's lost something
like the lady in the good book that lost,
oh, Lost and Found, yep, that's in my book.
Well, where to go?
Being lost again.
And that's the child's archetype, by the way.
Yep, when you feel lost.
And you can feel lost when your things get lost too,
because we do depend on them.
And in your honest opinion,
and I appreciate that, definitely let me know,
what would be the masculine side of this?
So here's an interesting thing that,
my son doesn't like cleaning up, he never did.
He's not like a little girl that takes pride
in like picks up the broom and the cloth
and mimics cleaning like the mom it does.
He wasn't like that at all.
And so, but now he's got a little side gig going on,
his own business detailing cars.
Well, that's cleaning, right?
That's the deepest cleaning you can do, actually.
So he doesn't like cleaning his room
until his girlfriend tells him to do that.
And then I think he's actually gotten
much more into that.
It used to be scary when I would go
and see his bedroom at his dad's.
It would just be like, oh my God, biohazard, child abuse.
So just like, I would just start doing this
and tossing things and decluttering,
but I think he's got a better handle on it.
So men clean their garage, as Michelle said,
and workshop area, still therapeutic for them too.
I believe that.
And Mike says cleaning gets you into a Zen state
when done well and over a long period.
Nice, I love that.
Yeah, so it's not exclusively a woman thing,
but obviously interest in different subjects.
Michelle said, you've seen men use baby food jars
in their workshops to organize
tiny little things like nails.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I love going into a guy's shop, actually,
and seeing how do they organize?
The fellow whose farm that I work at
incredibly well organized.
You should see his seeds and his tools
and his everything has a place.
And every time I've come,
I see there's like new progress in the organizing arena.
And when he plans a garden, it's all mapped out.
So he never forgets what's where and what's happening.
And me as a gardener, oh my goodness,
I am, am I a lost cause?
I think I could get better at it,
but so far I've been really chaotic.
The first couple of years I never even made rows.
I would make like, you know, squiggly's
and more girly lines that were pretty useless
or actually keeping track of things that are growing.
Rose, Rose work, Rose are a good thing.
JJ said, I like to be organized,
but it's a necessity, not a therapy for you got it.
Yeah, yeah.
And I've been there too.
I mean, it does depend on your lifestyle
that when I had my son really young,
cleaning was like, oh, could somebody please
take this off my hands?
Several times I have hired someone to come in
between raising my son and running a business.
It's that's like, if you want your place to be cleaned too,
and nevermind meals and taken care of your body,
keeping your body clean is a good thing.
So, but I also, there are times where
even for the sake of my own health,
I come back to cleaning my own home
because there's something,
there's some kind of relationship I have there.
Probably it's a girl thing.
And I love to plan the garden
when it's too cold to do anything.
Yeah, that's a wonderful activity
to remind you of when it's nice.
Yep, you got it.
And so you went and dealt clean up
when things are lost, clean up.
And when you don't know what to do next, clean up.
That's something that it just gets
all of the wheels going.
It gets the crap out and makes some space
and that's the ongoing theme.
I don't know if it's too much deeper than that,
but I've got a whole lot of angles to talk from.
Now, one of the things I've noticed inside myself,
one of the archetypes that can really get
behind the clean and clear thing is the lover archetype.
And so the shadows of the lover
is primarily obsession and compulsion.
Well, do you know anyone who obsessively cleans
and clears and declutters?
They do it out of anxiety.
They do it out of fear.
They're, you know, they don't feel good
if they don't, or they can't feel good,
say somebody calls and says,
do you wanna go out for dinner?
They're like, no, I have to stay home
and do all of these things.
Well, for me, I will never say that.
If somebody invites me out to dinner,
I'm probably gonna go.
I'm probably gonna abandon ship on my place.
It will be there when I get back
and then I'm going to go and enjoy
some connection and companionship.
I'm free for dinner, by the way.
Just want you to know.
Actually, not tonight, but tomorrow I am.
And so the lover archetype,
having this obsessive nature that's driven by fear,
then you can get very unhappy
in the tightness of routines
and you can't just sit there and read a book
because you know that corner has dust in it
or some kind of thing.
Then it's a sickness.
Then it's an illness.
So it's not just that cleaning is good.
It really is the spirit that you come from with it.
And that's your mom, Leah.
Right, right, I hear ya.
Let's see, I missed a few of this.
Leah said, when you deep clean your son's room,
he always comments how good the energy feels in his room.
Yeah, yeah, so he likes it.
He knows the difference.
That's great.
I think my son used to pretend
it was no different for him
but he felt it kind of as an assault when I came in
and I would like, oh my God, I would just panic
because I didn't have control over his room
and his dad's at all.
And Rick said, then again,
Beth, mother nature never sows seeds in straight rows,
either, good point, good point, Rick,
but mother nature doesn't need to like
track and be methodical for any other reason.
So she broadcasts, nice, nice, I like that.
So I was a little bit more like nature.
And that's your mom being so intense, yeah.
Like, my mom was both sides,
if I think back to it for a minute right now.
And she wasn't like the cleanest.
She wasn't obsessed with clean,
she would go in waves,
it would get like total madness, chaos,
everything's out of control, you know,
kind of peek out and then she'd bottom out
and then be like, that's it, everybody,
you know, marching orders, here's what you get to do.
And that was never a good time.
It was almost always when we were anticipating
having people over, because they would see our chaos, right?
So then everybody, except my dad,
this is where I learned to have some resentment
towards men, he didn't have to clean up
but we all had to clean up.
And there was one time, childhood memory,
where I was instructed to clean my room, so I did.
And I did it 99.9%.
And there was some weird little niggle in my head
that said, leave a sock in the wall beside the bed.
I know exactly where it was.
And I just, I knew it was there, I saw it
and I didn't clean it up.
So my mom came in and God bless her,
and all love to her, this isn't to call her out,
but I got a spanking over that sock.
And so that's kind of that same energy
that that's just a sign of stress
and hitting the end of the wire bed.
Like, I mean, my room looked great.
It was just one damn sock and I got a spanking over it, right?
So that's not really the point of it.
And Thunder Chicken, nice to see you.
Great to have you here.
I always enjoy getting the updates on your Facebook.
Really great.
And yeah, planning the garden in the summer is,
that is fun, exactly.
So then what happens with the lover?
It becomes a kind of, I'll use a Sanskrit word
since I'll be using a few more later.
It's a kind of Satwik conditioning.
So Satwik conditioning has its strong points,
but if it comes from the wrong motive, from fear,
then you just become a pain in everybody's ass
because you are so high and clean and pure
and you keep noticing how low and dirty everybody else is.
And you won't sit on a dirty chair,
you won't walk bare feet on the dirt of the earth
or you're Satwik conditioning, you're light conditioning.
You get the love and light people conditioning.
And it doesn't, it's not good.
It's not good for the person who has it
and it's not good for anybody around them either
because they're just not fun people.
What's behind that, what can be behind that,
especially with the lover archetype
can be what I call the perfect program.
Everybody knows about perfectionism.
It is a terrible disease.
I do believe strongly that excellence is worth working for.
This is something, I love that.
I like to take something I'm good at and become great at it.
And I like that process of digging in
and just getting better.
I know that that gets a bad rap in spiritual circles as well,
but increasing your skills, what the heck, right?
I love working towards excellence,
but if the perfect program is at play,
it's gonna be working for some fictitious
kind of a state called perfect.
And you never do reach it
and you're driven by the fear of death to make it perfect.
You might have the reverse version of it
where if you get it perfect, that's too scary.
So you go out of your way to not get it right.
And so yeah, those can show up
in a little few different ways.
Michelle said neurotic comes to mind
hyper focused on the outside
while neglecting the inner chaos can also write exactly.
So you're madly working on the outside
and it's the inside that needs an equal
or more amount of attention
and you're using the outside to avoid the inside.
Or I think you can use the inside
to avoid the outside as well.
Because at the end of the day,
you gotta do everything.
Reminds me of your grandma saying
never air your dirty laundry, right?
Oh, there's an interesting expression.
And hello, Paul.
I've been thinking about you so much.
Wondering how you're doing.
We maybe we're due for a catch-up sometime soon
but I know your hands are super full.
And ba humbug, N-E-D.
Now what did I say?
It's related to ba humbug.
Is that a Christmas thing?
It kinda is.
It's like an anti-Christmas thing.
We're not there yet.
We're not on the Christmas thing yet
but I don't doubt your comment related to something.
All right, so yeah, the perfect program
and the lover archetype and that obsession.
So you gotta watch out for that.
It's not where you wanna go with this subject.
On the theme of making new room for new growth
just by clearing spaces, cleaning a shelf,
cleaning out a drawer.
You should never have a junk drawer, by the way.
Never ever have a junk drawer
because that takes a whole drawer
and so if you have a junk drawer, what I would recommend,
you take that whole thing out,
dump it upside down on a piece of newspaper
or something that will catch all the crud
that gets in there
and then go by one by one just for fun
and see like am I ever gonna use this?
Is this useful?
Should somebody else be using it?
Or does it go in the garbage?
Or is it like an artifact
or a key from three houses ago?
How many people have a collection of keys?
Well, you know, if you don't turn that
into a musical instrument, ring, ring like that,
then let those things go, right?
So yeah, no junk drawers allowed,
no junk closets allowed.
That's just out of the question.
I had someone, I remembered my,
someone who used to be like a best friend to me
until the pandemic, so sad.
So sad, she lives in Minneapolis.
I was thinking about maybe contacting her,
but it'd be too sad if she's still mad at me
for driving through the US in the pandemic.
But so she helped me in a few different ways.
One by example, because she's a very clean
and organized person to like an intense degree.
She made a business out of it.
I helped her scale her business.
So that was really fun.
And then so number one with my closet,
she had me, we had a session of hers together
and we went through and I put on every single,
nearly every single thing that I owned
of clothing in my closet.
And then she would say, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.
Like, okay, yes, that's a good piece of clothing,
but it looks like crap on you
or that looks good on you,
but it's or that's a good color for you,
but it's not a good fit.
And basically you end up with a closet full of things
that you don't wear and that they just attract,
you know, stale energy and maybe,
what else does it attract?
Moths, at times I have had moths.
It's really devastating when you find out.
Luckily we have a long winter
and we can, you know, send a lot of things out
into the some zero where they die.
That's really good.
But and then, so we filled up a wagon
with all of the rejects.
It was almost as high as a house, this wagon.
We had to walk with two of us.
The whole thing didn't fall over
to the second hand bins down the street.
And it was, I was going like, oh wow,
this, you know, kind of sweating.
And this is like, is like pretty intense
on the nervous system.
And I wondered, am I going to miss anything in that pile?
I don't, I don't have a miss for anything.
Although I am a person that was raised
by grandparents that had been through depressions,
they did save everything.
They saved the button.
They saved a half, a thread that could be tied
to another thread.
So they had a whole thread to sew with.
They saved popsicle sticks
instead of buying garden markers
to label your garden with.
And he's saying, okay, give me one second.
I'm going to read this.
There we go.
So what if you have a dozen plus junk drawers
with good stuff in them,
you need organizational skills desperately, right?
Right, one at a time.
So maybe I'll jump to this.
I was on Sarah Tomatoes' channel the other night.
And I don't know why she was exactly talking about this,
but she was on the subject of some organizing
and stuff like that and cleaning.
And so here's a method.
This is flawless, especially if you're short on time.
Now, for drawers, I would just take,
if the drawer is about a square foot, you just take one.
You don't set your sight into doing more, you just take one.
You dump it upside down.
You let all the contents out.
You actually look at them.
You could make a couple of categories.
I haven't used this in two years.
It goes in the likely outbox.
And if you use it periodically, is it a tool?
Is it for sewing?
Is it for taking care of your body?
Is it for, then you've got to start creating
some categories of things in your life
so they could be concentrated in certain areas.
And that's, I'm not a professional organizer.
There are lots of people out there that do that.
That was one of the reasons that I was a little bit
hesitant to call this clean, because that's not my jam.
I just, I geek out about it.
It's part of my passion, but I don't work for people doing this.
I do work for them to clear the inside.
And yeah, so good luck, best wishes for that.
And then, so Sarah reminded me of this beautiful technique,
also shout out to one of my first meditation teachers
who taught me this.
And so say you have like a really bad kitchen
and it's maybe two meals, three meals
and the dishes are everywhere on every surface.
I actually have quite a lot of counter-services
in my kitchen with an island.
And that's not always good, because there's so much space.
It means there's a lot of places to put shit.
And so here's the thing.
You start, you create a little map.
Say if I was gonna go from this end of the island,
make a U back to the counter that's by the sink.
And then theoretically, I will, if I start here
and I just always move forward,
by the time I get to the top left side,
I will have cleaned everything behind me.
Because isn't that the biggest frustration of all
when you're cleaning and you're cleaning
and you're cleaning, and then you look behind here
and you're like, oh my God,
there's a bunch more stuff there.
I thought I was finished.
So this is a solution to that.
I don't always remember to use it,
but if I'm short on time in particular,
this is the way to go.
And so you attend one square foot at a time,
knowing where you're starting
and where your heading is very important.
What direction are you going in?
And you could probably use this for any NAD
for your drawer as well, but it might be a little bit
different, because I think you need to just empty
that drawer as a first start.
So you start at the, say in my example,
you're going to start at the left side back of the kitchen.
And then say there's some items on that square foot
that you don't know what you're going to do with them.
They don't go in the dishwasher.
They're not a hand wash.
They're maybe not even a kitchen thing,
but in order to not lose time sitting there
deliberating about every single object
and where should it go?
Does it have a home?
Does it do things like that, need their own space?
Because that's a lot of mental effort
and you'll be sitting there for a long time.
And so what do you do instead of deliberating
and deciding on every stupid little piece of whatever
you've got going on?
You move it forward unless it's blatantly obvious,
okay, this goes here and that goes there
and that's a dirty dish and this is a clean dish.
And when you got momentum like that,
deal with your square foot.
When you've dealt with your square foot,
then you go to the next square foot in front of you
given the direction that you've already determined.
And so your thing will still be there.
If you still don't know what to do with that thing
that you had to push forward,
you push it forward again into the next square foot.
So you keep giving yourself lots of chances
and you don't have to stick yourself
with deciding everything at the same time.
And then you just keep moving it forward
and moving it forward and moving it forward
and moving it forward.
And then by the end, again, you look back
and it's all done and it's all really cleared.
So I love that.
It's a priceless technique.
Shout out to Sarah Tomato for reminding me of that.
And yeah, that's a time saver right there, definitely.
So you're taking notes, decluttering your circle.
It's so good.
It's so good for your heart and your mind in many, many ways.
Let's see.
This is a story from Dr. Jacob Lieberman.
If you're familiar with him,
he wrote Illuminous Life.
Is that right?
No, that is Dr. Chan.
What is it called?
Darn it.
I have to look that up really quickly.
So I've had Jacob on my podcast maybe three times already.
The last time was 2020, just after the pandemic hit.
And because he's a doctor, he drank all the Kool-Aid
and he believed in the Boogeyman virus.
So I, despite really loving his work,
I kind of threw up my hands a little bit,
but because I saw him on Alpha Vedic not too long ago
and I just got high as a kite listening to him,
there's something so beautiful and so pure there
that I will have to forgive him for that.
I've invited him for another interview.
We'll see if he will come on.
I hope he does.
I don't think I made it hard for him last time at all,
but my chat was going like,
oh no, oh no, like that's not good comments.
But here's what he shared.
And I love this because he talks about
what is trying to capture your attention.
And this is the thing that happens
when you have your space full of crap.
It's funny, I'm looking at my desk right now
and I've gone a long way in my workspace.
I wish I could zoom the camera around
and show you how open things are in some ways.
And I could go next level.
I'm gonna go next level on this.
And so he says that if something's trying
to capture your attention,
rather than try to not let that happen,
which is what we're used to doing
because our attention is at a premium.
You could say our attention is a currency.
And so giving our attention, it's an important thing.
You need to understand the value of your attention
and not just give it to anything, anywhere, any time.
It's important, our attention.
And our controllers know that.
That's why they go out of their way to capture our attention.
Now, what Jacob is teaching is that if you're in your house,
this is to the subject of cleaning
and you live with people
and so-and-so always throws their socks in the corner.
And why do they throw their socks in the corner
when the laundry basket is like right there?
And, or they could just walk over to the laundry room
and put their damn socks in there.
And how many women have been frustrated by that?
I grew up around older women, my mom, my aunts,
all of the girlfriends.
They would complain about those men
who would do exactly that with the socks,
ball them up and toss them under the bed or wherever
they would go.
And they were always irritated by that.
And it was always a subject somehow.
I don't know why, this memory for it.
So Jacob would say, no, if those socks caught your attention
and it bothers you, then treat it as your responsibility.
You pick up the socks, right?
If so-and-so is not bothered by the socks,
what are you gonna do?
You want them to be bothered.
That's not really a solution.
And, you know, have you ever seen how difficult it is
to actually motivate someone to do something,
whether that's a child or your husband
or your best friend who you might live with?
And that just doesn't go well,
especially with adults who are,
who, you know, you have to show dignity.
You can't, and you have to leave them with their dignity.
So if you sit there in your socks
and they're dirty and you're a mess
and you're a slob or something like that,
then first of all, maybe don't, you know,
if you could avoid living with them or find some,
there are ways to reorganize spaces
so that you don't really have to deal
with other people's crap all the time.
But I love this thing.
It's like, if I see something as a mess,
this is how a king archetype sees it.
If there's something wrong in my kingdom, I did it.
Even if you physically, mentally had nothing to do with it,
in reality, it's there in your space.
It's captured your attention.
Allow it to capture your attention and just deal with it.
Again, time saver, major time saver, conflict saver.
Because, you know, if I just spent the whole childhood
being at war with my son about cleaning up,
we probably wouldn't have a very good relationship right now.
There would be lots of bad crap under the, you know,
because then kids get punished
and they get their privileges withheld
and then you withhold love from them.
You're not even kind and warm with them.
So, you know, like honestly, if it's your problem,
then you deal with it.
Yeah, you got it, ACI M11, radical responsibility
as you can't change others only yourself.
Yeah, and how long does it take to pick up the damn sock?
Right, almost nothing, but it takes a long time
to end up in conflict over it.
And taking ownership is powerful
and just plain efficient, exactly.
And you're setting an example.
Oh, it's Janet.
Hey, Janet, nice to see you.
I got your message, by the way.
And so, yeah, I really like that.
And I'm hoping Jacob will come back on, that would be fun.
So, let's move along and talk about physical cleaning
up, what that means.
I went for most of my life,
not understanding what detox meant.
I thought I was detoxing all the time.
I was, you know, I did the green juices,
I took vitamin C, I mean,
when I was sick with cancer many, many years ago,
that was a lot of detox.
There was some sweat therapy, they called it balneotherapy
where they put me in an Uber hot bath,
so hot that most people couldn't have stood it.
And if you moved at all, it was painful,
but as long as you stayed entirely still the entire time,
and you got a therapist watching you
because if your vitals go off the charts,
and then after they would lift and take you out
and wrap the crap out of you and you would sweat it out.
So it's just basically like a sauna blanket,
so I'm looking forward to that.
And with some exceptions,
I was doing green juicing doesn't actually detox you.
It fills you full of, in my case, metals, copper.
I mean, in everybody's case,
because there's a lot of copper in the greens
that I was juicing, that, you know,
so what I thought was detox is not detox.
If you're brand new to this channel,
maybe you're brand new to the work of Dr. Garrett Smith,
you can definitely look him up.
I could introduce you, you can watch his videos,
interviews of him on my channel here.
And so now I feel like I have a much better handle
on what detoxing actually means.
And so let me know in the chat,
what are your favorite ways to do that?
I'm gonna be gross and say like nearly at the top of my list
because I'm a girl, I detox slower.
I have poisoned the living crap out of myself
in my lifetime for, you know, sometimes knowing it
and a lot of times not knowing it.
And so one of my all-time favorite things,
this is kind of gross to talk about is enemas.
Now, what is really popular in the enema world is coffee.
Enema is putting coffee up your butt.
I don't recommend those because caffeine is a poison.
It is an insecticide, you guys.
It's an insecticide, so you don't want that up your butt.
You really don't.
They say, oh, well, it doesn't go through your liver,
therefore it doesn't detox you.
But from someone, coming from someone who really,
I poisoned myself very big with caffeine early on,
I developed an intense sensitivity to it.
So even a little bit of caffeine makes me,
I had a one shot espresso decaf my one every six weeks,
the other week, and oh my goodness, so much energy.
And I was just zooming and getting shit done so fast.
That's not about enemas.
But anyway, so caffeine, I know it's poisonous
and it's poisonous in the enemas too.
Sorry to say, I know that's not popular.
People will probably slam me for that.
It's okay, but that is.
So what I've learned to do instead,
thanks to Kelsey Kenny and all her research
and niacin, I do niacin enemas.
And so because my detox tends to be more slow
and I can't speed up my detox,
that is such a bad frame of mind to speed detox
because there's repercussions for that.
When you're really detoxing,
then you take all of the poison
that was probably cloistered away in your tissues,
in your fat cells, in your liver,
and you let them off into your gut.
If your gut is full of holes,
which the vast majority of people have,
what do you call it, like a permeable gut
or a permeated gut?
There's probably a better word for that.
Then the poison ends up in your bloodstream.
It goes to every part of your body.
It's how you get headaches.
It's how you get, you know,
it's not running and the cough
and the crap coming out of your ears
and your skin and breaking out
and all of that kind of thing.
So niacin enemas can save my life in,
not that I'm not like in a lifesaving place anymore,
but I've created a much higher standard
for digestion than I ever had.
Amazing, like I feel good every time I eat.
99.9% of the time, because I eat good food,
I eat clean food, I eat very simple food now
compared to where I was at before and very low poison,
which you need to know what that means.
Everyone thinks they eat low poison, but honestly,
it's a whole different thing.
So the periodic niacin enemas, they're like amazing,
just so good and they don't seem to set off
the detox fireworks, which you don't want.
I don't want, I don't want to be sick all the time,
even though I know I'm detoxing, that's no comfort for me.
I want to live my life and have energy
and be able to do a live stream about being clean,
perforated probably is a better word, Polly, thank you.
I appreciate that Mike said,
you still do coffee enemas occasionally.
And I mean, not everybody is super sensitive
to caffeine either, but it doesn't mean it's not toxic.
So never have tried niacin enemas.
I need to clarify, by the way,
in case anyone takes my advice here,
it's not any niacin, it has to be nicotinic acid,
not niacinamide, not nicotinate,
I believe is another one there, and it's harder to get.
I remember I went to Costco, I asked them
for nicotinic acid and then they pulled out
the niacinamide and I'm like, no dudes,
you don't understand, this is toxic.
And so you have to order special
the nicotinic acid there.
But I have a good, these are things we talk about
in the House of Free Will group
on the Love Your Liver channel chat.
And so I have good sources for it
and you can just go to bulksupplements.com.
It is the most economical.
So yeah, intense exercise,
but save, that's better for a guy,
but when it comes to a girl, intense exercise will,
and this will happen for a guy too,
it actually sets off, the very same thing,
it sets off too much detox at one time.
It's called a bile dump.
That's when the bile ends up in your blood
where you don't want it, where your bloodstream
and your veins and your brain
and everything is not designed for bile.
The gut is designed for bile,
but if it's perforated, then yeah,
so intense exercise, it's better for guys
because it's also about building character
and building endurance and building mental stamina
and strength and the willingness to go the distance
and do the marathon, but it sets off bile dumps.
So I'm just not in it for that.
I've had a lifetime of bile dumps.
So I'm trying to go more gentle myself,
but I'm glad that works good for you.
Lots of good spring water.
I was a spring water junkie for a lot of years.
We have one of the all-time best sources of that
here in Manitoba, kind of miraculously
so not far from here.
And he's a member of the House of Free Will
and he pays me in water and I distill that water.
I still distill the spring water.
Isn't that interesting?
Because yes, nature gave you the spring water,
but it's full of things you don't want.
It's full of things you do want, but unfortunately,
if you're really, really trying to cut back on the toxins,
which is always the best way to go,
I will distill my spring water
and it's the most delicious water ever.
I love it.
NAC, I'm not familiar with.
So you'll have to let me know about that.
Fasting is, yeah, great subject, Janet.
This one is something that I never wanted to fast.
I had an aversion to fasting three years ago
when my digestion stopped and nothing was working.
I wasn't able to heal with food.
Then I was recommended to go on a fast.
So I did nine days without food and it was terrible.
It was absolutely terrible.
My body went into shock.
My adrenals set off the fire alarms
as if they weren't already damaged enough,
although they're way better now, amazingly,
so much better.
And yeah, so I don't recommend fasting
and then when I met Garrett Smith,
I discovered the exact reason why fasting
is not the best approach
because yes, you're not taking poison in anymore
and most people's normal diets are full of poison,
but when you fast, you're not detoxing.
Your detox pathways require food.
They require nutrients.
They require your system to be moving things through,
right?
So I was so happy when I heard that
because I really hate fasting and it was a huge craze
and everybody's fasting.
It was, I learned someone tragically,
something terrible happened with fasting as well.
It's not what it's cut out to be.
So don't listen to the propaganda.
Listen to the actual living.
I don't know how much scientific research
there is around fasting, but you don't detox.
So why do you want that?
That's why people are always like,
oh, you have to come off your fast so carefully.
It's like, why?
Because your body's gonna start detoxing again.
Soon as it gets food, it's like, yay, good,
I can do my job again.
And then we think that's a problem
and then people and their relationship with food.
And I feel like there's an agenda to make us
feel like we don't need food and wanna go without food.
And I got super skinny that way too.
I was mentally preparing for the famine
when they kept threatening the supply chains
are gonna go down.
And that was really bad for me.
I definitely messed up my metabolism by not eating enough.
And now I'm on the other side
where I eat religiously.
I eat first thing in the morning.
I put everything off until my body's nourished.
I will spend the time to prepare at least two good meals
and then have a really decent snack or more.
And I finally don't go to bed hungry every night,
which is great, that was a sign.
I didn't get enough food.
And so good, I'm glad that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, you don't need to torture yourself that way.
That's what it is actually.
It's going completely against nature.
Your body asks for food because it needs that stuff, okay?
Let's see, I missed a comment by Annie.
I was never bothered by his socks nor your own
having stuff around felt comfortable to both of you.
So you're the worst housekeeper ever you're learning.
There you go.
And that's even better.
Like, so don't wait for something to bother you to do it.
You don't need, you know,
as long as you see the wisdom of it,
as long as you see that there's benefit
and that, you know, it's going to influence
other areas of your life,
the benefit spills over like crazy.
That's why people can make a living
helping you to declutter.
And, you know, that's why it can be valuable
to hire someone to come in and clean your space.
Or you do all of the decluttering
and you get the crap out of the way
and then you have a cleaner come in
and they can go way deeper
because there's nothing in the way
and they can spend their time much more wisely.
So, yeah, don't wait to be bothered.
That's another part of it.
Although if you're bothered,
then that's obviously something to think about.
So where are we here?
Enema's, I didn't get past that.
And Sana's talked about that.
And yeah, cleaning out the gut.
I no longer believe
they would talk about the impacted guts.
I no longer believe that, thanks to Garrett.
It makes no sense at all.
And then you don't have to think about,
oh, I've got plaque on my gut
and it's been there forever.
And that kind of thing, it's not like that.
So, yeah, clean space helps you mentally.
And that's exactly right.
Opens up life opportunities energetically.
Exactly, I'll talk more about that.
So, yeah, neglected space on the outside
can also reflect a neglected space inside.
So that's just something to think about
or the other way around.
And then I want to talk about
something called the neums
in the Patanjali Yog Sutras.
I think I have the book probably close by.
I just have my little notebook here.
Anyway, it's not close enough for me to grab it.
Probably the other bookshelf, yeah.
But so there's the eight limbs of yoga.
If you ever studied yoga
and you did ashtanga yoga,
that's what that was named after,
the eight limbs of yoga.
Although they didn't do the eight limbs.
It's so funny it was called ashtanga yoga
because all they did was awesome.
And yes, awesome is one of the eight limbs.
And if I could show off a little bit,
the eight limbs of yoga are yam, niyam, asan.
That's where the postures come in.
Yam, niyam, asan, pranayam, that's the breath.
Pratyahar, that's the inward turning.
Dharana, dhyan, and samadhi.
Dharana being concentration.
Dhyan being meditation.
Samadhi being bliss
or the bliss state, which I have a lot to say
but I won't go deep into that.
And then so in the beginning
where there's the yams and niyams,
I'm gonna talk about the niyams.
This probably doesn't help you guys to geek out on the words
but they're fun, they're beautiful words.
I just love them.
So the niyams are,
I'm gonna have to go buy these notes
cause I can't see a thing from my desk here in the dark.
It's a dark day.
And so there are one, two, three, four, five, six niyams
within that one category of personal observances
is what it's called.
And so this scripture, this text recommends
the first, the first niyam is shoch.
And shoch is about purity and cleanliness.
And for the reason of not clinging to the body
which is kind of interesting
because when you neglect the body
people might think that that is a way
to not cling to the body
but just by neglecting it, not feeding it, not cleaning it,
not, you know, you look at some of the aesthetics in India
and they're covered head to dough
and mud and their hair is disgusting, dreadlocks.
Like that's the real meaning of dreadlocks.
But in India this is, now I don't know how common this is
but there are yogis that they actually know
how to expel their colon out of their body
into the water to clean it out.
So like a colonic from the outside out.
Can you imagine having that much control over your body?
And it's for the purpose of being less attached
to your body.
Now why do we end up too attached to our body
is because our bodies are noisy.
You get a lot of symptoms, you get signs, you know
there's crap coming out your nose and your eyes
and your whatever's, right?
And then there's pain and there's discomfort
and there's indigestion and there's burping
and farting and all the kind of, you know, fun stuff.
And it all makes you attached to the flesh and the bones
but when there's more purity, more cleanliness
at the physical level, then you don't have to be so attached.
Right?
It's always much harder to fix something
than it is to maintain something.
That's whether it's physical or any at any other level.
And so when the body is just healthy
then it takes very little to just keep it going.
You know, it doesn't need your full-time attention.
I know this so well that when I get well
it's easy to stay well, when I get sick
that's gonna take my time and attention
and it's gonna create that attachment to my body.
It creates that fear of not surviving
which is that whole other subject.
And so this personal observance of shoch, very important.
And the next neum is a different level
of cleanliness called santosh.
And that's about contentment.
So this is a fun place to think about
because one of the ways that we are, you know
cluttering up our minds and our hearts
is by being discontented, highly nuanced here
because right away people when you say be content
they might say, well, then you're asking me to be satisfied
with something that's not satisfying
or you're asking me to be okay with something
that's not okay or you're asking me to condone something
that's actually not right and this is not true.
So as a tool or a personal observant observance
contentment is a wonderful thing to employ.
Now chances are you can't just put content
on top of discontent then it's not really contentedness.
You got that mix and one will argue with each other.
So for me now with the deprogramming skills
I know how to be content for real
not just suppress the discontent, but it goes a long way
and it's right in alignment with one of the main principles
of releasing is that in order to change something
you must first allow it to be there, right?
Goes against basic logic, but that's how it is.
How could I relate this to cleaning?
Is like if you go into denial about your clutter
and your corruption in your life then I use that tongue
and cheek corruption then there's how do I,
how do I, maybe I can't totally relate this back.
So yeah, you're gonna be not content.
You're gonna be not content in that denial.
It will be an unconscious discontent.
Anything unconscious is more powerful,
has more power over you or appears to have more power over you
not in reality that it actually does.
But yeah, so contentment is a good personal observance
to allow things to be as they are to,
like for example, Alex Deck announced
that he is now booking interviews for 2026.
I already had my hand up to have my son and I come on
so I can show what it's like to have like an unjabbed,
unmedicated, he's not unschooled
but he's practically unschooled
because it was a total option to go to school or not.
And so I have this on my mind
and I'm working on being content with it.
I've put it out there.
Now he did post if you guys are over on Facebook
and you feel to go to his post
and maybe like my, because I said hand up here
just as a reminder and you think it would be a good idea
for me to be on Alex podcast again.
I think it would just be so amazing
to show how Liam has uniquely grown in a world
and it's a really good example.
Anyway, that's just my mama talking,
my proud mama talking there.
But yeah, so I'm working at being content
with things as they are, not having an answer.
I don't know if that'll happen or not
but and oh yeah, so Annie's asking,
they did what?
They expelled their intestines.
Yeah, they expelled them.
I guess out their butt.
I don't think it would come out your belly button.
I think, nope.
I'm pretty sure it's out your butt.
So it's really gross, but that's how they would clean
and then they would go in the river
and who wants to go in the river after they do that?
But oh well.
So yeah, that's like a,
not everybody would be doing that.
So it's a very serious technique in yoga.
And it's very intense.
I imagine, can't feel good.
You might feel great.
I don't know.
But yeah, contentment,
but if you feel to vote for me being on Alex's show again
in 2026, then please do.
I would love and appreciate that.
And so the next niyam is called tapaha or tap.
And this is about tackling hardship.
The root tap means fire.
And so tackling hardship and accepting it and taking it on,
it cleans you with fire, right?
And this is very good.
Fire is very fast at cleaning.
For example, Annie D,
rather than cleaning your place,
you could set fire to it.
And it would clear the slate very quickly, right?
You would just be left with nothing but ash,
a little sweep up of ash,
and then you're so clean.
So really tongue in cheek here.
But so the fire of hardship doing,
and that can say be like Mike was talking
about intense exercise.
And a lot of people have,
they struggle with exercise.
And I know I struggled so big with exercise.
I was really fitful with it.
I had couch potato parents.
They were workaholics, so they would sit down
and that was it for them.
They weren't TV watchers for the most part,
which is amazing, my mom was a book reader.
But nonetheless, it's a lot of stagnant energy.
Our bodies need to move.
And cleaning the body depends on movement.
So if you have the ability to set yourself on fire,
by tackling the hardship of moving
when you don't want to move,
or brushing your teeth when you don't want to brush them,
who wants to always brush their teeth forever,
twice a day?
Like it's just, you know,
there's something can be hard about that.
Nevermind high risk stuff.
I feel like I set myself on fire every single day.
I set myself on fire to come on this live stream
because, you know, being solo,
I don't have a lot to fall back on.
But God bless you guys for showing up in the chat
because that makes it so much more fun and easier for me.
And yeah, so ways to set yourself on fire
for the sake of purification.
Doing things you don't really want to do,
but that you know are going to be good for you, right?
Getting an education.
Nobody wants to sit and learn every word
of every thing in the subject
that they need to know in order to gain a skill.
But through that tapas, through that fire,
you gain purification,
and of course you gain the skills in the process.
Hello, Maria Watkins.
I think we're gonna have a meeting sometime pretty soon.
Nice to have you here.
All right, so we're still on the neums
and the next one is called Swadhyaya.
And, or Swadhyaya is a better pronunciation
for the word by itself.
And this observance is about the study of self,
but it's self with the capital S.
So if you don't like the word God
or you don't like universe with the capital U
or you don't like the divine
or everyone's got their, for some reason,
problem with this word and that word.
But I like swa is a beautiful word
because it does mean self.
The Atma, the God self, the source self.
And so this study of the self,
not the study of like the naval gazing
and just like look at yourself, that's all good.
That often is a kind of tapas or fire,
by the way, to see something about yourself
you don't wanna see.
Then it sets you on fire
and you get to purify from that.
But the paying attention to self,
this is very subtle, very fine
and it is definitely a means for purification.
When you allow the divine to capture your attention
and you probably only can do that
because you had to clean up a little first.
If there's a lot of thoughts
and a lot of chaotic emotions and programs running
and upset or even strong positive emotions
is gonna be hard to pay attention to this capital S self.
So once you make some space for that
and you can do that,
it's extremely cleansing for your heart and your mind.
Yeah, the fire here is not welcome.
And you don't wanna say your place on fire
but you like the light stuff, very good.
That's awesome.
All right, someone's gonna say,
Beth Martins, you recommend you set your house on fire.
Okay, and then, so the second last,
niam personal observance is a rise to the truth.
Now you're hearing me say it again,
people do not like the truth.
They like a little bit of what they think to be true.
They like what their nervous system can handle.
They don't necessarily want to go all the way.
I wanna attract people who wanna go all the way,
right to the bottom of it.
Honestly, even if it means it turns over every stone
and turns my life upside down,
which it has many, many times already.
And look at me, I did not die, right?
So the truth threatens you as if
it'll threaten to turn things inside out.
It might threaten uncomfortable relationships
that might be a reality.
It's not convenient, the truth.
It's almost never convenient.
And it's made me something of an outlier among outliers.
I thought I was finally home in my world,
but even now, I can't stop it.
Like a little kid, I just can't stop going for
if there's a deeper truth to be had, I want that.
I can't not want that.
I'm loyal to it.
And this is part of that purification of yourself
arising to the capital T truth.
That's, that also is the name of God,
another name of God, Ishwara.
Ishwara.
So the very last name, I'm going a little slow through this.
The Sanskrit word is pranidhaan, pranidhaan.
I think there's even a pranidhaan,
there's sort of an arna sound in there.
And this one means devotion.
And that's about love.
And there is no more purifying force than actual love, right?
If you want to fix anything relationship-wise
or inside yourself, something that's broken,
it must be done with love.
If you try to do it with any kind of aggression
or even the program that tells you this has to change,
better change it, get rid of it, kill it,
all of that kind of stuff, it doesn't work.
It's just adding programs on top of programs.
But if you come at it with love,
same thing with a hard discussion in a relationship,
something needs to be said.
But don't say it until you can actually come from love
and not pretend love, not the fake love,
not the nice voice love kind of thing, right?
I know how to do that.
But the real deal where you actually feel it,
even though you still see, yes,
there's something needs to be discussed
or something wrong has happened
or something does need to shift and change,
if you can release until you can do that from love,
way better, way cleaner results.
Otherwise you're gonna create more problems
in the process of trying to clean up a problem.
Ever experienced that?
So there you go.
All right, so here's another way.
I'm actually starting to wind down.
I've only got about four points here.
That's really good.
And so here's another amazing way to clean up.
And this harkens back to the 12 step system,
which I think I did a little bit of it
because my parents had alcohol problems.
And so I think I did,
it was Allotin or Elemnon, maybe both.
At times I never went deep into it
because it was so victim infested.
I just couldn't stand it myself.
But I know there's a lot of people have made use of it
and then it can be extremely helpful.
One of the steps, and I don't know which one
because I don't have the memorized,
is about making amends.
And to me, this is never gonna get old.
There's never going to be a time
where you shouldn't make amends
because as soon as you realize that you've wronged someone
or you've done something that harmed yourself or someone else,
then it's a good idea to make amends.
Oh, I'm sorry I did that.
I didn't consciously want to hurt you,
but I see that happened anyway.
Or I consciously wanted to hurt you
and I realized that's not a good way to be.
And sometimes, now this takes a little bit of inner work
or can take a lot of inner work
because sometimes making amends
can actually make a problem for that person
that they're over it
and you can kind of open a can of worms for them again.
So you always wanna see like,
is it just to serve yourself
and your own being clean with yourself?
Or is that actually gonna serve the other person
or bring them down?
I mean, bringing them down,
but is it gonna injure them, re-injure them?
Are they, do they have any capacity
if it brings up old stuff that they don't wanna look at?
Do they have any capacity to actually deal with that?
So you wanna have that person really in mind.
It's not just about you cleaning your house.
Making amends can be done in a lot of different ways.
I heard something from Garrett Cramer the other day
who I almost had on, but we had a scheduling problem.
And he was talking, was it him or somebody else?
Anyway, it was really good advice.
Who was saying it?
I don't remember, but it's basically like
when you have the ability,
if you did something wrong and you have the ability
to have a moment of heartfelt regret
where you're like, oh, darn, I just can't believe I did that.
And I wish I hadn't done that and you have remorse
and you have true regret and you have the pain of that.
And it's heartfelt and you're not bypassing
the pain anymore, then that is what allows you to move on.
Now I would recommend including some deprogramming work
in there because you can get there
and you can have the feels,
but you might very well still have roots in the unconscious
that are going to replicate the kind of circumstances
that had you do the wrongs in the first place.
You might repeat that into the future
and just have a source of an ending regret.
So that's why I recommend the deprogramming work.
Of course, like a broken record.
Hello, Stacy T1H.
I'm glad you love these episodes.
That's so great.
It helps me a lot because I'm loving them
and then feedback is just fantastic.
Mikey said, creating a personal inventory
and list of people you've harmed
than making amends and giving it to God.
There you go, yep, that's that full step.
Yep, and that's a good way to clean up.
I tell you, that's a lot of weight
that you can let go of.
So this is also along the theme of coming clean,
meaning be honest.
I was having fun with myself
when I was saying this several times out loud.
Fess the F up, fess up, fess up, right?
How many people will not do that
and say they changed their story,
what they're saying, like they,
maybe they somewhere realized
they were saying something wrong,
so they say something new,
but they never say they changed what they're saying.
They hope you didn't notice.
Well, anyone who's paying attention,
you notice this stuff.
It's important, right?
It's not irrelevant by any means.
And then there's, God bless them,
the gaslighters that they will go on to the new thing.
And then if you mentioned like,
hey, but you said this,
and then no, I never said that.
I never said that.
That's like one of the worst forms of abuse.
I have a particular pet peeve with this one
because I've been injured a lot by people's lies,
one in particular.
And so this is, to me,
one of my highest values, honesty, transparency,
Mike, you mentioned at the very beginning
of the stream today.
And if you went wrong, just say you did it.
Just say you went wrong.
I did the thing.
I remember there was one time,
this is a good story,
how I have a garage door that used to bounce.
We obviously had a very faulty system
because now it works perfectly.
And sometimes that stupid garage door would bounce open.
And I've lost a bicycle.
I lost a guitar.
I have lost my taxes.
All my files were in my car one night
when that stupid door would bounce like this, right?
And so I got in the habit every time I would close it,
I would, I hang around and I watch.
I watch you.
Are you gonna go down and up?
Or are you just going down?
So having to be vigilant for that.
So one night, I obviously just walked away.
I thought the door was closing and it didn't.
It stayed open all night.
And then what happened is the minus 90 weather
hit the plumbing and exploded it.
So it blew out.
And all of a sudden I don't have water
because all my water is connected to that garage.
And there was a very big mess.
So I told the person who owns the building
and oh boy, I wanted to say it was something else.
I just wanted to say it was somebody else's fault.
I thought, oh my goodness,
it's gonna be thousands of dollars in damage
and I'm gonna be on the hook for this.
And I just got up my bravery and I told him I did it.
The door must have bounced and I didn't catch it.
I didn't watch closely enough this time.
And what did he do?
Can you guys guess what he did in that moment?
I'll let you tell me in the chat.
So, and fessing up, it's about,
people think they hope no one notices,
but the fact is that you notice
every cell of your body notices it.
You carry that in your record.
Some people might say like, oh, God is noticing,
but I might say like, well, God doesn't care, right?
The love of God is unconditional.
The worst criminals, liars, thieves,
the sun shines on everything,
the crap and the good stuff alike.
But you care, right?
Your mind, your body, your heart,
the cluttered, the weight, that's what cares.
And you don't wanna carry that around your whole life.
That will set you back big time.
And this is either consciously or unconsciously,
almost always unconsciously
is when this kind of stuff happens,
especially if you're in apathy.
So you have to care.
And if there's something to fess up about, just do it.
So anyway, nobody's answering me,
but when I fessed up that I was responsible
for blowing up the waterworks,
he said, oh, thank you for telling me.
And there was no consequences.
He wasn't mean to me, he didn't charge me.
You could see energetically,
there was appreciation for just solving the mystery
because otherwise it was like, well, how did this happen?
There was no sign for it.
So it was, you know, I wept.
I'm just like, it was such a beautiful thing
just to come clean and say, it was me, I did it.
So what else do we got here?
I thought one of the more important features
of cleaning up, and I'm reminding myself
and going on the record for this
is to clean up your tabs.
Anyone out there a junkie?
I used to just use my brave and that was bad enough.
But now I'm also using Chrome again
with a major ad blocker
so I can watch the odd video without a bunch of interruptions.
And so I end up with two browsers.
And because I got one of my screens is bigger
for live streaming, I can have two, you know, windows
and they each have, if I count two, four, six, eight, 10,
you know, about 50 on one side and 50 on the other.
And then I got a second, I got a laptop
with another hundred tabs open.
So I have to work on this one.
I could use your support, your emotional support
right now to close my tabs.
Anyone else out there have a tabs disorder?
It's kind of off the charts.
So anyway, tongue in cheek.
I was just being human.
Yep, exactly, exactly.
But it was very tempting not to fess up.
I didn't have to, right?
I didn't have to.
People fess up when they have to, but I didn't have to.
This, I did that for my own internal soul.
And then yeah, you can get busy with tabs, I imagine.
You mean with emails and stuff like that, yep.
All right, so people basically have resistance
to doing this work.
That is one of my specialties.
I help people to release resistance,
which is one of the main route programs.
As I mentioned, I've spent a lot of time
in the last couple of weeks revamping one of my courses
that I'm now affectionately titling deprogramming 101
for those that want to go back to the beginning.
And they probably don't know they want to go back
to the beginning, but if you're at the beginning,
that's, this is the good place to start.
You might hear me say these words,
deprogramming over and over again.
It just becomes a word.
It's, you know, it doesn't carry a lot of meaning,
but it really is about cleaning up, making space,
not necessarily so you can fill the space.
Space in itself is so fertile.
And it begets a natural outpouring of creative energy.
I see it every single time that, you know,
if I get into a low space or heavy space
or super challenged or setback,
like the accidents I had in the summer,
which you can hear on episode one of Beth of Fresh Air,
then I have to turn towards the release work
in order to find any impetus.
Because why I don't have a world like most people do.
Nobody tells me what to do.
All my time I choose what to do with it.
Some people think that's fantastic.
It's actually an enormous responsibility.
And it can be very painful to think
that I would waste that luxury
that most people don't have.
And so then if you're interested in this,
I was going to make an offer
that you would actually have to take me up on personally.
I don't have a link at this time.
We could have a conversation
if you'd like to explore the deprogramming 101
and get some basic emotional intelligence
and be able to navigate your emotions
and be able to find the programs
that are under the multiple layers,
not just under your emotions, but under your sensations,
under your beliefs,
under all of the layers of your human experience
that clutter up your mind and your heart.
And this is the work worth doing.
Not waiting until you get to your dying days
to think, oh, I gotta better clean up now.
When you might not have the capacity
and you might not have the skills
or you might not have the cognition to do it
because you actually need a brain,
you're gonna use your brain for the purpose of deprogramming,
not to think your way through this stuff,
but to point towards the important stuff.
And so then you can take me up on that
by putting a comment below the video
with your hand up and a yes and a way to reach you
because I can't reach you through
if it's YouTube or Rumble, by the way,
then if you wanna put an email address,
just spell the word at rather
than making the whole email address.
So your email doesn't get eaten alive.
Please come on Telegram.
Telegram is one of the best places to find me.
I'm there on the King Hero Chat.
Every day I'm connecting with people there,
some excellent people there.
You might wanna be part of,
let me see if I can grab my Telegram link.
Once we're connected on the King Hero Chat,
then you could join me in a private exchange
easily just by tapping on my name there.
Is that true?
Anyway, we'll figure it out there.
I would tap on your name if you put your hand up
and let me know that you want to do that.
So let me just get the Telegram link.
That would be great.
Telegram is a funny platform.
There is some kind of, not quite censorship.
Nobody takes my posts down,
but they will take my emojis down,
excuse me, and my links are not my links,
but if I like something, I'll come back
and it looks like I didn't like it.
So it's kind of annoying,
but that seems to be all bad and wrong
that's going on over there.
Yeah, I can't find, okay.
I gotta clean up my computers.
So you heard me say it, be witness to it.
Damn it.
Is that gonna have it?
Telegram?
Nope.
So do I have my Telegram channel?
Here, let's see.
I swear I've got a note called show notes.
There it is in big capital letters.
Excellent.
Okay, here we go.
Here is the King Hero Telegram chat.
So if you're not already on there, please.
Okay, all right.
I need a self-help group around this.
My notes quit on me
because it doesn't like being my filing system.
I'm gonna open it again.
Ask pretty please.
Be my filing system.
It's so convenient.
It's so easy rather than making documents.
So amazing, but it doesn't really have that capacity.
I'm coaxing it and I need to clean it a little bit.
Okay, there's the King Hero chat.
So you can go and grab that access to that,
that group would be fantastic to have you there.
If you haven't already done my King Hero quiz,
I recommend this as a great first move.
I also recommend reading my book
on the eight archetypes of the hero's journey.
And what else can I share with you guys?
Yeah, if you'd like to take part
in the deprogramming 101 course,
then just hit me up on Telegram
or at my website, you can fill out literally any form.
Just say, I'd like to talk about that.
You obviously don't know what is.
Now, if you like, I could show you the back end
of the program.
My only hesitation here is that this is recorded.
It is private behind the scenes,
but if you wanna have a one-on-one meeting,
I will show you the whole entire course inside
so you can see if it's something
that you want for yourself at this time.
So laugh my ass off.
You beat me to it.
Michelle, there you go.
It's funny, I felt you in the ethers, Darn.
I felt you, I should have waited.
I kind of felt you there.
So yeah, here's the chat link
and here is the link to my quiz.
There's also a training on the archetypes of controlled op.
You have to ask me for that
because that link I don't want available to the public
and just any Joe, I get weirdos on my mail list
and they mark my email spam and that gets me in trouble.
Please don't do that.
If you're only around to make trouble,
I don't think there is.
I'm not really feeling it,
but every so often I get people in my world
that they just want trouble.
Not very much though.
Otherwise, I get good people
like all of you who've been here.
Thank you so much for coming.
I will be back again next Friday.
If there are any requests for themes of episodes,
I don't think I'm gonna run out for a long time.
You might notice that all of my episodes are verbs.
So I'm gonna stay on that theme of what can,
what action can be done,
what action can be taken to help inspire people
and get to a more active role in their life
rather than maybe passively sitting back
and letting things happen,
which is not everybody by any sort of imagination,
but I am a fan of being a doer
and then there's the next level
to get to non-doership while you're doing,
that's a whole other kind of thing.
But I think that's it for now.
Happy Thanksgiving to everybody in the US.
I hope you have a good celebration.
I'm going to play us out with one of the pieces
off of my recording, VJ Living Knowledge,
which you can find on iTunes and Spotify
and I have my recordings of my four CDs as well.
So at my website, you might have to ask me for that too
because I'm always changing what's there.
Okay, I hope you guys have a beautiful day.
Lots of love for now.