It's time for Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock
Believe me when I say we have a difficult time ahead of us
But if we are to be prepared for it, we must first shed our fear of it
I stand here without fear because I remember
I remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me
But because of the path that lies behind me
I remember that for 100 years we have fought these machines
And after a century of war, I remember that which matters most
Must make them remember
Man, there's a lot out there to fear you, I tell you
You know, we need to look at this calm, cool, collectively
To see what's up
What's up? Well, we're going to find out
Karen Katowski, we're going to have her displayed it to us
Because we need to be displayed into
Now Karen is retired Lieutenant Colonel of the US Air Force
She's at the Pentagon
You know, we're going to talk to her about what the heck is going on in Iran
With Trump at the helm
Is he at the helm? Is there a plan?
Are we getting the truth anywhere
About what is actually going on over there
And what's next
We're going to talk about it
Now Karen has her sub-stack
That she's been putting everything out
You can also get her at lourockwell.com
And show you, show you, show you
After Trump's war, the US won't be invited back
Now, we'll talk about what that means
But the first I wanted to talk about her
You know, last week article
War on Iran, Pentagon after action report week one
Now, I've read both
And I want to get her to comment
In light of this statement
I had Nick Bryant on earlier today
And what happened was
He wrote the book The Franklin Scandal
Which was about a child, a young boy
Boys town sex trafficking in the White House
No less, you know
During daddy Bush administration
Mr. I was ambassador, you know
To China, I was a UN guy
I was CIA director, I was vice president
Now I'd be president
Oh, and he had that war report
JFK, you know, association thing too
I mean, the boy had been around
Well, then his son comes in
Be president, yay
But during that time
Was this Franklin scandal thing
Washington Post starts it
It was before the internet
I mean, you had fax trees
I think it's how I found out about it
Somebody sending me a fax
And being politically active and stuff
But you find out that there
Involved the Air Force
It was actual military transports
There was that basis
I mean, it was a thing that swept under the rug
Well, Nick Bryant writes a story about
The Franklin Scandal
They call it Franklin
Because it was some savings and loan
Where the money was being focused on
Whatever
So this is Nebraska, Omaha
Around in there
What happened, then you get
He has a book called
Confessions of DC Madame or something
You know, it's about prostitution
And congressmen, whatever
Then you have the Epstein files
So my question
And what I really wanted to talk about
But he wasn't interested
He wanted to focus on the Epstein effort
And petition or whatever
But I wanted to bring this up with Karen
Because I know she'd have a comment at least
Or at least see how my mind goes
Of this stuff
Is that you have a, you know
Kind of little boys for Republicans
And then little girls for Democrats
Or both or mixed or whatever
And you get involvement even of military
And sure as hell
Central intelligence
And if that's central intelligence
Sitting right by him
At the table is Israeli intelligence
At the Pentagon
And at the CIA at everything
So I'm just like
This is, it seems like
We're up against a
An entity, a philosophy
A shadow, a religion
You know, could it be
Satan, I mean, you know
So I'm just looking at
You know, this mindset
That they have
It's a darkness
There's no empathy or love
Or compassion
They wouldn't lay waste to a
Country with an atomic bomb
That'd be wrong, I mean, you know
So I, we are much closer
Than I think we think we are
Because we don't understand
The character, the type of people
We're dealing with
And you could go to
Atlas Shrugged where I ran
Detailed the kind of, the character
The kind of people, you know
The ewness of them
Or you could read the Epstein files
Or you could watch Hunger Games
In Central Capital City or whatever
How they are and luxury extravagance
Of they're just freakin'
Messed up in the head
Or you could read Karen Katowski stuff
Because she goes in
To, you know, a lot of
How these people are and she's
Very good with language, I enjoy
Reading your stuff, it's just fun
I feel smarter afterwards
Learn a word, you know
So with that statement
And that we're up against
Something, I don't see
A plan, you know
That has any, I don't know
Credibility
And last night Eric Weinstein
Was on with Tucker Carlson
And it was both of them were like
Something happened to Trump
This is not, I mean as much
As I'm not a fan of anybody being my president
Or ruling me here, you know
They're my government or that crap
You know, you're still voting
But this is just neon flashing
I did not see this
I did not anticipate
That he'd just knuckle under
We'd be with Israel and we're going
You know, do us some bombing and stuff
And then think that they were just going to
Unconditional surrender
Is there a fifth level
Multi-dimensional
Super chest move something
Monologue the crap out of me
Karen, explain it to us
I don't know if I can
I don't know if I can explain it
But obviously
We're led by
Our leadership, our government
And the billionaire
You know, oligarchy that runs
The country and actually runs
A lot of the world
Most of those folks
They love power and they
Seek power
And they're also
Corrupt people because if you think about
Just the overall picture of a moral
Person
You know, fundamentally
A moral person
Doesn't want to
Lord it over others
You know, the most a moral person
Would want to do is to protect the weak
And that's about it
The moral person doesn't want to be in charge
Of all these things and these guys
These politicians, all of them
Of every party Trump included, they want power
But they're corrupt
So they're willing to trade
Anything for power and do
Anything for power, but they're still corrupt
And so they're easily, they're high
Targets in blackmail
You know, if you think about
The FBI director from years ago
Who served Hoover
Right, J. Edgar Hoover
A very interesting private life
He had as well, but he
Was
You know, collecting
Information that would be embarrassing
To people and some of that was
Financial embarrassment, criminal
Embarrassment, sexual embarrassment
Anything like that
And he would collect all this and then he would use
It to ensure
That whatever he wanted for the United States
And I think his focus was probably
A little more domestic than international
But what he wanted
For the United States would be
Would be implemented
So
The idea that our
Leadership class
Governing class is vulnerable to blackmail
That's an old idea, that's been around
For some time. And you know, we have this
We're reminded of the founding fathers
And they weren't all perfect either
But there was a sense that
That many of those folks
Were putting
The good of the country or
This new country they were forming
Trying to form ahead of their own
Personal gain. Now, not all of them did
Some of them precisely used
The formation of the country
Precisely for, you know, to advance
Their own wealth and power. There's no doubt
About that. But a lot of them that we
Think about, you know, there's kind of a
We give them moral credit, we give them
Credit for being moral people. But we're
Now an empire. So we're a long way
From that. And in empires
You very rarely get
Really good people at the top. You get
Machiavelli
Type people except
Machiavelli
Actually had some order to his thinking
So you get disordered Machiavellians
They're highly
Vulnerable to all kinds of blackmail
Because they commit all kinds of crimes
As a routine basis
Now, we don't like to think of our leaders like this
And Trump himself
Ran three different times
One twice
And you might have won three times, nobody knows
But he won twice all on the same
Message. And that is
The deep state, the swamp
Is filled with evildoers
And I'm going to go clean it up
And people loved it. People ate it up
Because they wanted
To see a better
Sense of leadership, a better sense
Of morality out of Washington
Now
Trump specifically really didn't talk
About reducing the size of government
So that's one lie he never really told us
I don't recall him saying I'm going to shrink government
You know, he's no run Paul
And he hasn't shrunk
Government, of course he's expanded and grown it
But
He also didn't do anything about the swamp
It turns out, he was in the swamp himself
He was, you know, a part of
This highfalutin
Group of
Swingers, I guess you could call him and be
To be kind, but they're criminals
And they hung around with each other
And partied with each other
And meanwhile, you know
Not very much obstec
So they're all, this is being recorded
Not just by Epstein on behalf of
Massad and
I'm sure given as needed to the
CIA
But you know, each other
Information that one group had on another
This
Network of abusers
Abusing each other, I think in many ways
In order to
Gain power, stay on top
Get what they wanted, fill their pockets, line
Their pockets. And of course this is
Not what Americans like
And actually
It's not
What any
Kind of population likes
They didn't like it in Soviet Union
They didn't like it
Under Yeltsin with the oligarchs
Some of them don't like it under Putin
With the oligarchs. They don't like it in Europe
With the EU and the way it throws money around
And increases your taxes, tells you how to live
They don't like it there. In the Gulf
States
Many of the Gulf states that are
Have been really blindsided by
The United States
We put our bases there, but we had no intention
Of defending them. In fact
We didn't even tell them this war was coming
So they couldn't even prepare
And they are taking the brunt of that
But many of those governments
In the Emirates
In Bahrain in particular
Even Saudi Arabia
These governments
Are elite, wealthy oligarchies
That run
A country that's filled
With people that are
I think a lot of Americans might identify with
They're people that aren't very wealthy
And are struggle
To get ahead
And often feel that their government is
Not fair. And it's not just
Even though it's wealthy
Or even though it spends money
It doesn't really help them
So in Bahrain
The 50-60% of the population
In Bahrain that's Shia
They might very well be
Interested
In a politician if they had
The opportunity that said
Make Bahrain great again
They would fall for that. We share a great deal
With a lot of the people in the Middle East
In the way that our government
Runs roughshod over our dreams
And lies to us constantly
So anyway
But the blackmail thing
Back to what you're saying about
Your previous guest
Who has studied these
Really verified
Really pedophilia
Among the elites
And among the government
With the Franklin thing
And then the Madame thing
Which of course not so much pedophilia
But blackmailing people
Who are cheating on their spouses
That kind of thing
And then of course Epstein
Which is apparently the people
Who have seen
Even whether they're in government or not
Who have seen some of the material there
It's horrendous
So that's
Kind of like where you get to the sense
Is the devil working through
Our government in some way
What is this? It is really unbelievable
I think
And he doesn't want to make the connection
He doesn't want to leap
Or make an assumption
That these things are connected
But they're connected
Because the people that are participating
In it are the same exact people
They're the same governing
Sludge
That rises to the top
Compets for power
Is blackmailable
Because what I always like to say about blackmail
Is
Blackmail is a common term
Everybody knows what blackmail is
But there's an easy way
To stop blackmail
It takes two to be blackmailed
Somebody can say
I got dirt on you
If it's not true, you prove it
It is true, you admit it
And you take the hits
And that could be jail time
If you're a pedophile
You've murdered people
Or you've participated in criminal activities
Then you're going to have to do the time
You're going to have to own that crime
If you did it
But you're not going to be blackmailed
So blackmail is a choice
They make a choice to submit to it
So
When it comes to Trump
And how he has betrayed MAGA
Because I think on a number of ways
He has totally betrayed them
Certainly on the spending
Certainly on the
Conduct of war, both economic war
Which, you know
Unreasonable tariffs, arbitrary tariffs
It is a form of war
Okay, so Trump said I like war
I'm going to bring troops home
First thing he does is engage in economic war
And of course
Bastiat said
Everybody credits Bastiat with saying this
But he says we're goods
Don't cross or can't cross borders
Armies will
And it's basically saying
If you're going to mess with people's life
Lifeline, their economy
Treat them as
Parias
You don't want to participate or deal with them
At some point you'll fight with them
Which of course we do
And we
This unwarranted attack
On Iran
And when I say unwarranted, okay
They had
They were busy with very publicized
And detailed
Diplomacy efforts
In which Iran had promised
More than they ever promised before
It was actually
You could almost say well they can't be tell
Iran cannot be agreeing to this
Because it was so shocking that they had
Agreed to so much including
No enrichment
Offshore holdings of their existing
Enriched uranium
All kinds of supervision
And inspections
Of course they had the fatwa
Until we killed the guy that made the fatwa
They had the fatwa that Iran
Would not for religious reasons
Pursue a nuclear weapon
Would not have a nuclear weapon
Because that would be
The way
The Ayatollah
The first one, the previous one
That would be an insult to a law
To do that, so you know
Religious reasons for not having a bomb
Now he did that, now his son now took over
I mean
The amount of
The miscalculation
If it is miscalculation
Obviously there are many ways to look at
What we're doing
Yeah, I have no idea
That's why I got you here
Explained to
You know, the new guy
Is the son of the
Ayatollah Khomeini
That we murdered
Along with, so we murdered the guys
The new Ayatollah, we murdered his dad
And mom, his wife
And one of his kids
And now he is the new
Religious leader
Of the Shia movement
Of the Shia religion
Or Shia part of Islam
And of course
The religious leader of
Iran
And it turns out, he's a soldier
And it turns out
He's got a lot of battlefield experience
On top of all that
We killed his
We killed his whole family basically
And then got him into that job
So that doesn't seem
Too smart
That doesn't seem to be like
If you wanted a regime change
And Trump said it, he's now denying
They're now all denying they wanted a regime change
But Trump said on his 8 minute video
The night of this, that they started this attack
On the night of the 28th
Of February, he said
You know, regime change
Free the Iranian people, they'll rise up, etc
And
Now he doesn't talk about it, he says
That's not a thing
But if it was a thing
It was the stupidest thing you could ever think of
But anyway, again, I don't know
There is some cause to think
That Trump has
Is being influenced
By something that we're not aware of
Okay
Because we are aware that he was
Button-paid for by Zionist donors
Right, I mean
His take, his financial take
In his last presidential party
They expand on that, I keep here
In the House's name, I know
The guy died
Within the last few years
Or something
Oh, Adelson
Yeah, and his wife is still
What was the control there?
Here's a bunch of money so you can be president
And be our bitch
Yeah, well
I mean, look
It's the same thing that happens at the
Congressional senate level
Here's a bunch of money
This will make the difference between you getting elected and not
And so when you're elected
You used my money and you owe me, that's it
It doesn't take much
To buy a politician
If you look at the cost of
A house race
Anywhere from
A million to maybe four million
If it's, you know
A pocket change
One to four million, let's say
They could spend more but usually don't have to
Even against Thomas Massey
I don't think they've donated more than three and a half million
And that's a targeted
You know, they're trying to decapitate
Massey politically
I don't think they're going to prevail
On that either but
Let's take a house race, no more than five million
Senate races, they go up
They can be a hundred million
And then your big ones
But a hundred million
If you can give a guy the
Ten million or the fifteen million
That makes a real difference
Or if you are able to
Get a lobby
Like APAC
Or some other organization
To spend their own money on your behalf
That can make the difference in you being elected
So it doesn't take much
To buy a politician
The national level, you're running for president
Yeah, it takes a lot of money
But
The return on investment is very high
The return on investment is huge
Because now you own the executive branch
And for many, many
Decades
Our evolution politically
Has been that the executive branch
Will do whatever a damn well pleases
And it will not be stopped
By congress, it will not be checked by congress
It will not be stopped by the judiciary
It will not be checked by the judiciary
Not when it comes to sending in troops somewhere
They come up with whatever
Gymnastics they need to do it
Well, honestly
Yes, war, they let the executive
Do all the war at once
It can do all the domestic policy that it wants
You know, this ice
The mishandling of ice folks
Going, you know, raiding and shooting people and stuff
This was
All on the executive branch
You know, this was not
The executive branch is riding a rough shot
And it's, it absorbs
And spends so much
A great percentage of the total government
Spending, it's very powerful
And the whole thing is
Constitutionally
It's supposed to be balanced
But financially
There's absolutely no balance
And it doesn't take, like I said
Let's just take Israel
They're not interested in domestic policy here
They are interested in our
Middle East policy
And obviously our defense policy
Because they benefit from that
And they want to have a say in that
Well, you know, how many
It doesn't take many millions to buy a congress
You know, one by one
And buy a senator one by one
Now, Israel, I want to get this in
At this point, there is a
I was learning that
At the Pentagon, which you've been in
The Pentagon, there's Israeli
Military guys
Intelligence that are sitting there at the table
They're a bitch of wine
Hey man, we weren't including the movie
Just walk, in the meeting
They just walk in
You have intelligence community
The Five Eyes, which, you know
Is Canada, New Zealand, Australia
The United Kingdom
America
Is Israel involved in that particular
One? Or they get their special
Meetings
So how integrated
Into our military and intelligence
Is
Is really government and military really
Do you know? Well, at the top levels
They are definitely integrated
And I saw that myself as long as
You know, 23, 24 years ago
And I told the story to the
American conservative, you know
I mean, we had to go escort some people
And we didn't know who they were, but turned out they came from
The Israeli Embassy, a couple of generals
In uniform, a couple of other
Military-looking people, not in uniform
In the Basseter, what not
I don't think the top ambassador was there
But it was these military guys, so
We went down to get them, we had to escort them
Because security had changed
I'm sure it's changed even more now
Now they probably have their own ID cards
They swipe them right in
But we had to go get them
And they were upset because they had to wait
Extra time
So they were chopping at the bit to get
Through the barricade, they got through
And basically ran, took off
At a high rate of speed, we couldn't even keep up
We were not escorting them, okay
We were following them as fast as we could
And they go into the
I think it was
The Deputy Secretary to fence
His office, and his door was shut
They walk right past secretaries, they don't sign in
They walk right past the secretary, try to push his door open
I witnessed this, I'm thinking like
To me, I'm thinking
Like I'm not thinking, oh these guys are trying to make American policy
I'm thinking, these guys are rude as shit
But anyway, that's what
My reaction is normal, because you don't see people really behave like that
But they're very bold, they're very confident
At least these guys work
So the secretary jumps up
And wedges herself between the door
And the head guy there that was trying to push the door open
Saying this guy's, you know, this
Secretary's in a meeting
And you have to wait
So I was trying to be helpful
Because even back then I was always trying to be helpful
And I said
You know, well maybe, you know, they had
Something to do, maybe these guys can sign in
Because they hadn't signed in, and I pointed at
The sign in book
And the secretary said, no, no, they don't have to
Sign in, they don't have to sign in
So that gives you a sense of
The
Level of comfort
That they had with our top leadership
And that was 25 years ago, and it has only gotten
More and more integrated
And more close
And more
Of a team, you could say
What enforces that attitude?
I think
I really think that
Americans are too mannerly
And you know, people might be shocked that I said that
Because you think Americans are like rude and nasty
But
To me, the way I saw it was
These guys are really
Like bullies
And
In a professional environment
We are not used to that
Now, Don Rumsfeld
Absolutely a bully
He was even a boxer, so he was all into physical
Confrontation
And that's fair
But in general
I guess it's kind of like
We used to have a rules-based
System in the Pentagon
And they broke those
But we didn't really have a system for
Ensuring it
We're flexible, just like with everything else in our society
We accept a lot of things
We start accepting a lot of things and pretty soon
We don't recognize
What we've become
And we kind of get reactionary
We yearn for a previous time
When the rules mattered
So
Anyway, that's what I think
Now, I do think
That
This was prior during the planning
Of the 2003 invasion of Iraq
And they want to make sure everything's going their way
Because obviously that was another war for Israel
But then
In the intervening years
The war on Iraq and obviously
What happened in Afghanistan
Which was kind of associated
You know, neither one of those things
Went very well
They didn't prevail in the way that we would have wanted
They cost the United States a ton of money
And a lot of people came out after that time
In the mid-2000s saying
You know, this is wrong
Why did we do it? Oh, it looks like war of Israel
Clean break, you know, Israel wants a greater Israel
And we're going to facilitate that for them
Why? Makes no sense for Americans to do that
And I didn't think the
Relationship
In the Pentagon, the Israelis
In the Pentagon had
Gotten better or more
Energized
I thought it maybe had gotten less
And I didn't pay a lot of attention to it
And then about a couple weeks ago
Tucker
Mentioned he's getting calls from people
Inside the Pentagon
Talking about these guys busting in on joint staff
Meetings in the bowels of the Pentagon
You know, where we do war planning and stuff
And operational
Execution
And they're in there
And that's very
That's a little bit unusual
But that's a sign of a very close relationship
But again
Who benefits from that relationship
Obviously the Israelis do because
If you can leverage
The United States military capability
It's intelligence
It's naval forces
It's air forces
It's army, special forces
If you can leverage that
You know, that's good for you, right?
I mean, hey, if I was a little country, I'd try to do that too
And they do that
But what do we get out of it?
That's the question
Because there used to be a sense
That Massad intelligence
Israeli intelligence, their knowledge of the region
With so much better than ours would ever be
That it's really a good benefit
To the United States to have access to that intelligence
But I don't think that's the case anymore
Because
And if it is, we're kidding ourselves
Because the intelligence
That
Well
And also the intelligence who are leading up to this
Unwanted attack on Iran
It's supposed to be over with by Purim
It's supposed to be over with by Tuesday
It wasn't, still going on
Not going to be over with until Iran says it's over with
That could be