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It's time for Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock

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Believe me when I say we have a difficult time ahead of us

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But if we are to be prepared for it, we must first shed our fear of it

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I stand here without fear because I remember

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I remember that I am here not because of the path that lies before me

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But because of the path that lies behind me

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I remember that for 100 years we have fought these machines

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And after a century of war, I remember that which matters most

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Must make them remember

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Man, there's a lot out there to fear you, I tell you

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You know, we need to look at this calm, cool, collectively

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To see what's up

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What's up? Well, we're going to find out

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Karen Katowski, we're going to have her displayed it to us

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Because we need to be displayed into

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Now Karen is retired Lieutenant Colonel of the US Air Force

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She's at the Pentagon

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You know, we're going to talk to her about what the heck is going on in Iran

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With Trump at the helm

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Is he at the helm? Is there a plan?

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Are we getting the truth anywhere

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About what is actually going on over there

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And what's next

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We're going to talk about it

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Now Karen has her sub-stack

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That she's been putting everything out

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You can also get her at lourockwell.com

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And show you, show you, show you

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After Trump's war, the US won't be invited back

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Now, we'll talk about what that means

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But the first I wanted to talk about her

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You know, last week article

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War on Iran, Pentagon after action report week one

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Now, I've read both

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And I want to get her to comment

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In light of this statement

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I had Nick Bryant on earlier today

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And what happened was

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He wrote the book The Franklin Scandal

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Which was about a child, a young boy

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Boys town sex trafficking in the White House

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No less, you know

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During daddy Bush administration

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Mr. I was ambassador, you know

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To China, I was a UN guy

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I was CIA director, I was vice president

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Now I'd be president

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Oh, and he had that war report

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JFK, you know, association thing too

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I mean, the boy had been around

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Well, then his son comes in

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Be president, yay

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But during that time

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Was this Franklin scandal thing

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Washington Post starts it

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It was before the internet

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I mean, you had fax trees

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I think it's how I found out about it

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Somebody sending me a fax

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And being politically active and stuff

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But you find out that there

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Involved the Air Force

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It was actual military transports

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There was that basis

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I mean, it was a thing that swept under the rug

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Well, Nick Bryant writes a story about

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The Franklin Scandal

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They call it Franklin

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Because it was some savings and loan

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Where the money was being focused on

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Whatever

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So this is Nebraska, Omaha

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Around in there

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What happened, then you get

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He has a book called

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Confessions of DC Madame or something

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You know, it's about prostitution

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And congressmen, whatever

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Then you have the Epstein files

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So my question

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And what I really wanted to talk about

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But he wasn't interested

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He wanted to focus on the Epstein effort

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And petition or whatever

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But I wanted to bring this up with Karen

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Because I know she'd have a comment at least

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Or at least see how my mind goes

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Of this stuff

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Is that you have a, you know

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Kind of little boys for Republicans

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And then little girls for Democrats

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Or both or mixed or whatever

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And you get involvement even of military

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And sure as hell

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Central intelligence

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And if that's central intelligence

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Sitting right by him

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At the table is Israeli intelligence

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At the Pentagon

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And at the CIA at everything

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So I'm just like

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This is, it seems like

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We're up against a

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An entity, a philosophy

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A shadow, a religion

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You know, could it be

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Satan, I mean, you know

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So I'm just looking at

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You know, this mindset

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That they have

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It's a darkness

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There's no empathy or love

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Or compassion

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They wouldn't lay waste to a

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Country with an atomic bomb

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That'd be wrong, I mean, you know

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So I, we are much closer

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Than I think we think we are

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Because we don't understand

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The character, the type of people

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We're dealing with

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And you could go to

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Atlas Shrugged where I ran

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Detailed the kind of, the character

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The kind of people, you know

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The ewness of them

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Or you could read the Epstein files

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Or you could watch Hunger Games

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In Central Capital City or whatever

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How they are and luxury extravagance

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Of they're just freakin'

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Messed up in the head

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Or you could read Karen Katowski stuff

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Because she goes in

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To, you know, a lot of

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How these people are and she's

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Very good with language, I enjoy

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Reading your stuff, it's just fun

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I feel smarter afterwards

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Learn a word, you know

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So with that statement

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And that we're up against

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Something, I don't see

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A plan, you know

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That has any, I don't know

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Credibility

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And last night Eric Weinstein

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Was on with Tucker Carlson

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And it was both of them were like

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Something happened to Trump

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This is not, I mean as much

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As I'm not a fan of anybody being my president

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Or ruling me here, you know

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They're my government or that crap

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You know, you're still voting

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But this is just neon flashing

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I did not see this

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I did not anticipate

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That he'd just knuckle under

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We'd be with Israel and we're going

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You know, do us some bombing and stuff

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And then think that they were just going to

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Unconditional surrender

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Is there a fifth level

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Multi-dimensional

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Super chest move something

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Monologue the crap out of me

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Karen, explain it to us

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I don't know if I can

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I don't know if I can explain it

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But obviously

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We're led by

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Our leadership, our government

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And the billionaire

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You know, oligarchy that runs

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The country and actually runs

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A lot of the world

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Most of those folks

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They love power and they

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Seek power

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And they're also

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Corrupt people because if you think about

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Just the overall picture of a moral

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Person

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You know, fundamentally

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A moral person

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Doesn't want to

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Lord it over others

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You know, the most a moral person

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Would want to do is to protect the weak

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And that's about it

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The moral person doesn't want to be in charge

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Of all these things and these guys

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These politicians, all of them

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Of every party Trump included, they want power

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But they're corrupt

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So they're willing to trade

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Anything for power and do

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Anything for power, but they're still corrupt

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And so they're easily, they're high

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Targets in blackmail

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You know, if you think about

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The FBI director from years ago

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Who served Hoover

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Right, J. Edgar Hoover

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A very interesting private life

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He had as well, but he

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Was

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You know, collecting

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Information that would be embarrassing

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To people and some of that was

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Financial embarrassment, criminal

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Embarrassment, sexual embarrassment

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Anything like that

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And he would collect all this and then he would use

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It to ensure

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That whatever he wanted for the United States

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And I think his focus was probably

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A little more domestic than international

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But what he wanted

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For the United States would be

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Would be implemented

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So

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The idea that our

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Leadership class

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Governing class is vulnerable to blackmail

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That's an old idea, that's been around

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For some time. And you know, we have this

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We're reminded of the founding fathers

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And they weren't all perfect either

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But there was a sense that

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That many of those folks

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Were putting

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The good of the country or

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This new country they were forming

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Trying to form ahead of their own

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Personal gain. Now, not all of them did

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Some of them precisely used

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The formation of the country

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Precisely for, you know, to advance

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Their own wealth and power. There's no doubt

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About that. But a lot of them that we

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Think about, you know, there's kind of a

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We give them moral credit, we give them

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Credit for being moral people. But we're

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Now an empire. So we're a long way

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From that. And in empires

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You very rarely get

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Really good people at the top. You get

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Machiavelli

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Type people except

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Machiavelli

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Actually had some order to his thinking

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So you get disordered Machiavellians

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They're highly

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Vulnerable to all kinds of blackmail

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Because they commit all kinds of crimes

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As a routine basis

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Now, we don't like to think of our leaders like this

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And Trump himself

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Ran three different times

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One twice

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And you might have won three times, nobody knows

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But he won twice all on the same

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Message. And that is

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The deep state, the swamp

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Is filled with evildoers

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And I'm going to go clean it up

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And people loved it. People ate it up

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Because they wanted

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To see a better

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Sense of leadership, a better sense

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Of morality out of Washington

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Now

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Trump specifically really didn't talk

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About reducing the size of government

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So that's one lie he never really told us

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I don't recall him saying I'm going to shrink government

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You know, he's no run Paul

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And he hasn't shrunk

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Government, of course he's expanded and grown it

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But

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He also didn't do anything about the swamp

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It turns out, he was in the swamp himself

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He was, you know, a part of

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This highfalutin

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Group of

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Swingers, I guess you could call him and be

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To be kind, but they're criminals

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And they hung around with each other

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And partied with each other

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And meanwhile, you know

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Not very much obstec

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So they're all, this is being recorded

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Not just by Epstein on behalf of

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Massad and

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I'm sure given as needed to the

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CIA

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But you know, each other

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Information that one group had on another

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This

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Network of abusers

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Abusing each other, I think in many ways

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In order to

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Gain power, stay on top

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Get what they wanted, fill their pockets, line

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Their pockets. And of course this is

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Not what Americans like

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And actually

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It's not

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What any

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Kind of population likes

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They didn't like it in Soviet Union

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They didn't like it

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Under Yeltsin with the oligarchs

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Some of them don't like it under Putin

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With the oligarchs. They don't like it in Europe

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With the EU and the way it throws money around

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And increases your taxes, tells you how to live

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They don't like it there. In the Gulf

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States

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Many of the Gulf states that are

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Have been really blindsided by

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The United States

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We put our bases there, but we had no intention

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Of defending them. In fact

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We didn't even tell them this war was coming

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So they couldn't even prepare

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And they are taking the brunt of that

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But many of those governments

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In the Emirates

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In Bahrain in particular

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Even Saudi Arabia

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These governments

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Are elite, wealthy oligarchies

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That run

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A country that's filled

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With people that are

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I think a lot of Americans might identify with

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They're people that aren't very wealthy

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And are struggle

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To get ahead

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And often feel that their government is

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Not fair. And it's not just

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Even though it's wealthy

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Or even though it spends money

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It doesn't really help them

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So in Bahrain

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The 50-60% of the population

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In Bahrain that's Shia

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They might very well be

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Interested

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In a politician if they had

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The opportunity that said

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Make Bahrain great again

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They would fall for that. We share a great deal

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With a lot of the people in the Middle East

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In the way that our government

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Runs roughshod over our dreams

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And lies to us constantly

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So anyway

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But the blackmail thing

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Back to what you're saying about

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Your previous guest

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Who has studied these

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Really verified

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Really pedophilia

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Among the elites

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And among the government

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With the Franklin thing

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And then the Madame thing

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Which of course not so much pedophilia

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But blackmailing people

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Who are cheating on their spouses

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That kind of thing

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And then of course Epstein

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Which is apparently the people

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Who have seen

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Even whether they're in government or not

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Who have seen some of the material there

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It's horrendous

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So that's

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Kind of like where you get to the sense

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Is the devil working through

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Our government in some way

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What is this? It is really unbelievable

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I think

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And he doesn't want to make the connection

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He doesn't want to leap

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Or make an assumption

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That these things are connected

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But they're connected

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Because the people that are participating

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In it are the same exact people

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They're the same governing

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Sludge

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That rises to the top

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Compets for power

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Is blackmailable

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Because what I always like to say about blackmail

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Is

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Blackmail is a common term

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Everybody knows what blackmail is

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But there's an easy way

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To stop blackmail

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It takes two to be blackmailed

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Somebody can say

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I got dirt on you

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If it's not true, you prove it

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It is true, you admit it

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And you take the hits

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And that could be jail time

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If you're a pedophile

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You've murdered people

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Or you've participated in criminal activities

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Then you're going to have to do the time

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You're going to have to own that crime

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If you did it

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But you're not going to be blackmailed

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So blackmail is a choice

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They make a choice to submit to it

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So

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When it comes to Trump

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And how he has betrayed MAGA

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Because I think on a number of ways

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He has totally betrayed them

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Certainly on the spending

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Certainly on the

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Conduct of war, both economic war

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Which, you know

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Unreasonable tariffs, arbitrary tariffs

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It is a form of war

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Okay, so Trump said I like war

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I'm going to bring troops home

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First thing he does is engage in economic war

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And of course

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Bastiat said

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Everybody credits Bastiat with saying this

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But he says we're goods

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Don't cross or can't cross borders

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Armies will

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And it's basically saying

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If you're going to mess with people's life

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Lifeline, their economy

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Treat them as

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Parias

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You don't want to participate or deal with them

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At some point you'll fight with them

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Which of course we do

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And we

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This unwarranted attack

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On Iran

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And when I say unwarranted, okay

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They had

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They were busy with very publicized

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And detailed

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Diplomacy efforts

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In which Iran had promised

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More than they ever promised before

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It was actually

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You could almost say well they can't be tell

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Iran cannot be agreeing to this

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Because it was so shocking that they had

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Agreed to so much including

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No enrichment

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Offshore holdings of their existing

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Enriched uranium

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All kinds of supervision

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And inspections

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Of course they had the fatwa

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Until we killed the guy that made the fatwa

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They had the fatwa that Iran

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Would not for religious reasons

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Pursue a nuclear weapon

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Would not have a nuclear weapon

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Because that would be

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The way

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The Ayatollah

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The first one, the previous one

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That would be an insult to a law

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To do that, so you know

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Religious reasons for not having a bomb

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Now he did that, now his son now took over

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I mean

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The amount of

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The miscalculation

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If it is miscalculation

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Obviously there are many ways to look at

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What we're doing

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Yeah, I have no idea

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That's why I got you here

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Explained to

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You know, the new guy

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Is the son of the

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Ayatollah Khomeini

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That we murdered

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Along with, so we murdered the guys

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The new Ayatollah, we murdered his dad

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And mom, his wife

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And one of his kids

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And now he is the new

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Religious leader

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Of the Shia movement

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Of the Shia religion

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Or Shia part of Islam

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And of course

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The religious leader of

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Iran

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And it turns out, he's a soldier

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And it turns out

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He's got a lot of battlefield experience

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On top of all that

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We killed his

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We killed his whole family basically

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And then got him into that job

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So that doesn't seem

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Too smart

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That doesn't seem to be like

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If you wanted a regime change

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And Trump said it, he's now denying

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They're now all denying they wanted a regime change

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But Trump said on his 8 minute video

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The night of this, that they started this attack

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On the night of the 28th

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Of February, he said

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You know, regime change

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Free the Iranian people, they'll rise up, etc

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And

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Now he doesn't talk about it, he says

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That's not a thing

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But if it was a thing

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It was the stupidest thing you could ever think of

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But anyway, again, I don't know

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There is some cause to think

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That Trump has

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Is being influenced

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By something that we're not aware of

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Okay

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Because we are aware that he was

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Button-paid for by Zionist donors

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Right, I mean

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His take, his financial take

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In his last presidential party

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They expand on that, I keep here

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In the House's name, I know

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The guy died

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Within the last few years

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Or something

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Oh, Adelson

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Yeah, and his wife is still

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What was the control there?

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Here's a bunch of money so you can be president

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And be our bitch

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Yeah, well

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I mean, look

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It's the same thing that happens at the

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Congressional senate level

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Here's a bunch of money

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This will make the difference between you getting elected and not

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And so when you're elected

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You used my money and you owe me, that's it

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It doesn't take much

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To buy a politician

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If you look at the cost of

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A house race

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Anywhere from

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A million to maybe four million

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If it's, you know

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A pocket change

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One to four million, let's say

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They could spend more but usually don't have to

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Even against Thomas Massey

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I don't think they've donated more than three and a half million

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And that's a targeted

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You know, they're trying to decapitate

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Massey politically

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I don't think they're going to prevail

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On that either but

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Let's take a house race, no more than five million

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Senate races, they go up

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They can be a hundred million

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And then your big ones

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But a hundred million

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If you can give a guy the

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Ten million or the fifteen million

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That makes a real difference

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Or if you are able to

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Get a lobby

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Like APAC

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Or some other organization

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To spend their own money on your behalf

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That can make the difference in you being elected

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So it doesn't take much

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To buy a politician

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The national level, you're running for president

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Yeah, it takes a lot of money

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But

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The return on investment is very high

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The return on investment is huge

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Because now you own the executive branch

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And for many, many

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Decades

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Our evolution politically

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Has been that the executive branch

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Will do whatever a damn well pleases

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And it will not be stopped

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By congress, it will not be checked by congress

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It will not be stopped by the judiciary

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It will not be checked by the judiciary

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Not when it comes to sending in troops somewhere

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They come up with whatever

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Gymnastics they need to do it

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Well, honestly

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Yes, war, they let the executive

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Do all the war at once

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It can do all the domestic policy that it wants

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You know, this ice

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The mishandling of ice folks

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Going, you know, raiding and shooting people and stuff

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This was

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All on the executive branch

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You know, this was not

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The executive branch is riding a rough shot

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And it's, it absorbs

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And spends so much

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A great percentage of the total government

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Spending, it's very powerful

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And the whole thing is

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Constitutionally

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It's supposed to be balanced

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But financially

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There's absolutely no balance

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And it doesn't take, like I said

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Let's just take Israel

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They're not interested in domestic policy here

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They are interested in our

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Middle East policy

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And obviously our defense policy

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Because they benefit from that

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And they want to have a say in that

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Well, you know, how many

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It doesn't take many millions to buy a congress

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You know, one by one

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And buy a senator one by one

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Now, Israel, I want to get this in

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At this point, there is a

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I was learning that

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At the Pentagon, which you've been in

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The Pentagon, there's Israeli

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Military guys

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Intelligence that are sitting there at the table

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They're a bitch of wine

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Hey man, we weren't including the movie

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Just walk, in the meeting

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They just walk in

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You have intelligence community

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The Five Eyes, which, you know

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Is Canada, New Zealand, Australia

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The United Kingdom

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America

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Is Israel involved in that particular

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One? Or they get their special

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Meetings

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So how integrated

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Into our military and intelligence

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Is

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Is really government and military really

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Do you know? Well, at the top levels

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They are definitely integrated

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And I saw that myself as long as

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You know, 23, 24 years ago

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And I told the story to the

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American conservative, you know

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I mean, we had to go escort some people

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And we didn't know who they were, but turned out they came from

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The Israeli Embassy, a couple of generals

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In uniform, a couple of other

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Military-looking people, not in uniform

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In the Basseter, what not

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I don't think the top ambassador was there

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But it was these military guys, so

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We went down to get them, we had to escort them

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Because security had changed

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I'm sure it's changed even more now

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Now they probably have their own ID cards

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They swipe them right in

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But we had to go get them

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And they were upset because they had to wait

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Extra time

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So they were chopping at the bit to get

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Through the barricade, they got through

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And basically ran, took off

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At a high rate of speed, we couldn't even keep up

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We were not escorting them, okay

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We were following them as fast as we could

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And they go into the

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I think it was

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The Deputy Secretary to fence

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His office, and his door was shut

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They walk right past secretaries, they don't sign in

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They walk right past the secretary, try to push his door open

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I witnessed this, I'm thinking like

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To me, I'm thinking

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Like I'm not thinking, oh these guys are trying to make American policy

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I'm thinking, these guys are rude as shit

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But anyway, that's what

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My reaction is normal, because you don't see people really behave like that

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But they're very bold, they're very confident

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At least these guys work

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So the secretary jumps up

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And wedges herself between the door

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And the head guy there that was trying to push the door open

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Saying this guy's, you know, this

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Secretary's in a meeting

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And you have to wait

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So I was trying to be helpful

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Because even back then I was always trying to be helpful

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And I said

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You know, well maybe, you know, they had

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Something to do, maybe these guys can sign in

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Because they hadn't signed in, and I pointed at

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The sign in book

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And the secretary said, no, no, they don't have to

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Sign in, they don't have to sign in

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So that gives you a sense of

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The

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Level of comfort

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That they had with our top leadership

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And that was 25 years ago, and it has only gotten

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More and more integrated

25:30.500 --> 25:32.180
And more close

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And more

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Of a team, you could say

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What enforces that attitude?

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I think

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I think

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I really think that

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Americans are too mannerly

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And you know, people might be shocked that I said that

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Because you think Americans are like rude and nasty

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But

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To me, the way I saw it was

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These guys are really

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Like bullies

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And

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In a professional environment

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We are not used to that

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Now, Don Rumsfeld

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Absolutely a bully

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He was even a boxer, so he was all into physical

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Confrontation

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And that's fair

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But in general

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I guess it's kind of like

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We used to have a rules-based

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System in the Pentagon

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And they broke those

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But we didn't really have a system for

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Ensuring it

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We're flexible, just like with everything else in our society

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We accept a lot of things

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We start accepting a lot of things and pretty soon

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We don't recognize

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What we've become

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And we kind of get reactionary

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We yearn for a previous time

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When the rules mattered

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So

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Anyway, that's what I think

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Now, I do think

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That

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This was prior during the planning

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Of the 2003 invasion of Iraq

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And they want to make sure everything's going their way

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Because obviously that was another war for Israel

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But then

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In the intervening years

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The war on Iraq and obviously

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What happened in Afghanistan

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Which was kind of associated

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You know, neither one of those things

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Went very well

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They didn't prevail in the way that we would have wanted

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They cost the United States a ton of money

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And a lot of people came out after that time

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In the mid-2000s saying

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You know, this is wrong

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Why did we do it? Oh, it looks like war of Israel

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Clean break, you know, Israel wants a greater Israel

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And we're going to facilitate that for them

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Why? Makes no sense for Americans to do that

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And I didn't think the

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Relationship

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In the Pentagon, the Israelis

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In the Pentagon had

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Gotten better or more

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Energized

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I thought it maybe had gotten less

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And I didn't pay a lot of attention to it

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And then about a couple weeks ago

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Tucker

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Mentioned he's getting calls from people

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Inside the Pentagon

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Talking about these guys busting in on joint staff

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Meetings in the bowels of the Pentagon

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You know, where we do war planning and stuff

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And operational

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Execution

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And they're in there

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And that's very

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That's a little bit unusual

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But that's a sign of a very close relationship

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But again

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Who benefits from that relationship

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Obviously the Israelis do because

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If you can leverage

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The United States military capability

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It's intelligence

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It's naval forces

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It's air forces

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It's army, special forces

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If you can leverage that

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You know, that's good for you, right?

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I mean, hey, if I was a little country, I'd try to do that too

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And they do that

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But what do we get out of it?

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That's the question

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Because there used to be a sense

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That Massad intelligence

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Israeli intelligence, their knowledge of the region

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With so much better than ours would ever be

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That it's really a good benefit

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To the United States to have access to that intelligence

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But I don't think that's the case anymore

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Because

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And if it is, we're kidding ourselves

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Because the intelligence

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That

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Well

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And also the intelligence who are leading up to this

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Unwanted attack on Iran

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It's supposed to be over with by Purim

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It's supposed to be over with by Tuesday

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It wasn't, still going on

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Not going to be over with until Iran says it's over with

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That could be

